Saturday Gardening and Puttering Thread, October 23

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Hi! It's fall where I am. Our power isn't out today, though. How about where you are?

We are starting with a newcomer to our thread today!

I usually plant wildflowers in the Spring only. This year I put in another batch after the Spring batch had run out. They looked so good I decided to put our fall scene behind them. It has been a very warm September and October here in Central NC. Happy Halloween guys!

Jeff L.

That re-plant turned out great!

Featured Video

We are so lucky to have PointyHaired Boss in The Horde:

This year we had a bumper crop of hummingbirds. I shot lots of SloMo video of fights around the feeders and now that the crappy fall weather has moved in I finally have time to sit inside & do some editing.

I love these videos . . . .

For the folks at the Texas MoMe

If you are wandering around in Texas after meeting with The Horde, you might want to check out this guide to the best botanical gardens in Texas. redc1c4 sent in the link.

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Critter Cartoons

Kid Halloween prep:

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You can report Monarch Butterfly sightings, especially if they are tagged, to this organization.

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Slo-mo moths

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Puttering

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Beyond Puttering

We turned an old turkey coop into a green house. We put in a lemon tree, a beef steak tomato plant, a thai basil plant and some aloe vera and other succulents. Can not wait to use it this spring to start seedlings.

S. Lynn

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The chickens are getting the last crop of cantaloupe and watermelon. Spoiled. I miscalculated my winter carrot planting (too soon) so we have lots of carrots to eat. I also planted austrian peas on all my vacant areas to turn over after they die to add nitrogen to the soil.

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The guara survived the first frost and is still going strong. The bees love it. The clematis is giving its last hurrah.

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Last Week

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1 Good afternoon Greenthumbs

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2021 12:31 PM (2JoB8)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 23, 2021 12:33 PM (arJlL)

3 That old turkey house looks fantastic
Picked 2 ripe Anaheim peppers yesterday, 1 went into a cheesesteak last evening. Still no frost so my peppers in my mini greenhouse are OK, wish I got more sun on it as trees in last 20 years of garden spot are shading it out.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2021 12:34 PM (2JoB8)

4 Fine chooks.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 23, 2021 12:37 PM (vuisn)

5 Great pics and videos, as always. Thanks for beauty and inspiration.

Container tomatoes are done, got 2-1/2 more pints of relish out of the last green ones. Sweet peppers are still putting out. Pondering bringing them in my kitchen and setting by the glass sliding door, which will get afternoon sun all winter.

Posted by: skywch at October 23, 2021 12:38 PM (QVgqY)

6 LOL @ the Carpenter Ants!

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2021 12:43 PM (sUwfN)

7 That hummingbird video is amazing.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 23, 2021 12:48 PM (d9Cw3)

8 Ahhh...bluebonnets. Mrs. Throckmorton and I reached a point where we just couldn't take another Texas summer (because the Texas summer lasts 6 months) so I found a job in Tennessee and we moved to a cool Appalachian mountain a few years ago. But there is not a prettier place on this planet than Texas in March, with its explosion of wildflowers.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 23, 2021 12:53 PM (d9Cw3)

9 I don't pay much attention to the apple tree in the back yard. It had been untended for awhile. Finally convinced my husband to have it pruned. But there wasn't much fruit and it had water core. When the stepdaughter was working in the yard this year, she took a look at it. There was a grub infestation, so they put some tree sealer on it.

This week, I was by it and noticed there were a fair amount of apples. They may still have water core but I picked them anyway. Going to turn them into applesauce. I think I'll talk to them about pruning it again.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 23, 2021 12:56 PM (YynYJ)

10 Buck, agree about the bluebonnets. I'm in Tennessee too, but lived in Texas for decades, and got homesick when I saw that picture. I used to drive down from Ft. Worth through Waxahachie to a town south of Dallas. The blues on that route were amazing in the spring, nothing like 'em.

Posted by: skywch at October 23, 2021 12:57 PM (QVgqY)

11 Hi. I have a question. Should I put ashes, from my burn barrel into my compost?

And/or should I mix it with the dirt (non-organic dirt from neighbor's pool dig)?

Posted by: Been Lurking at October 23, 2021 12:59 PM (rDgjh)

12 my herb garden is pretty well winding down. I picked all the green tomatoes because its been getting into the 30s here and they weren't getting much sun anyway. Hopefully some will ripen in a bag and the rest I can fry and make stuff from like relish and salsa.

I harvested all the basil, last year I left them too long and it froze, which totally destroyed the stuff. Got a bin of pesto and dried the rest. That little drier unit we got this year has been a great investment.

The Pineapple Sage grew and grew, and now it has brilliant red flowers on it, very beautiful. And it smells wonderful. I have cooked with it but can't swear to the flavor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2021 01:00 PM (KZzsI)

13 I am amazed that S. Lynn has those clematis in fall. Those are not fall clematis!

The guara for the bees is nice. The chickens look pampered with their special treats. Love the new greenhouse!

Posted by: KT at October 23, 2021 01:04 PM (0ghg2)

14 Been Lurking at October 23, 2021 12:59 PM

Is your soil acid or alkaline?

Posted by: KT at October 23, 2021 01:06 PM (0ghg2)

15 The yard at the new house is rather shady. I do not know if it's too shady to grow veggies, or if they'll appreciate some shade in the hot summer months. Anyway, my plan is to have a compact garden and use outdoor grow lights to supplement the light.

Posted by: Emmie at October 23, 2021 01:07 PM (6RgRK)

16 And/or should I mix it with the dirt (non-organic dirt from neighbor's pool dig)?
Posted by: Been Lurking at October 23, 2021 12:59 PM (rDgjh)


I don't know if you would mess up your pH of your compost heap, or drive off the worms if you put it in your compost. The subsoil from the neighbor's digging might be better.

I don't put ash in mu garden, at least not very much and I do it in the winter when there is nothing but weeds. Some plants hate alkaline soil, and some notables like Steve Solomon claim that additional Potassium from wood ash causes your plants to grow large but without sufficient nutrients. Also don't ever put ashes on potatoes because it burns the leaves and vines.

I scatter ashes on the lawn when it starts raining, and dad liked putting them around the perimeter of the canopies of trees because that is where the ends of the roots tend to be.
I suppose the main concern if I scatter on the lawn is to watch out for burnt nails and hinges, right?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2021 01:12 PM (KbLYZ)

17 Love the Slo Mo Hummingbird video.

I'd be afraid if they were any bigger than a few ounces. Man are they aggressive!

Posted by: squeakywheel at October 23, 2021 01:13 PM (UDSF6)

18 Jeff L.'s wildflowers seem to be heavy on cosmos, zinnias and single marigolds. They worked out well for his fall display.

Wonder if any seeds will survive for the birdies?

Posted by: KT at October 23, 2021 01:13 PM (0ghg2)

19 The music for the hummingbird video is pretty zippy, but it still goes with the super slo-mo action of the birds!

Did you catch the antennae on the last bird?

Heh.

Posted by: KT at October 23, 2021 01:14 PM (0ghg2)

20 I dug potatoes this year, and I didn't have any pests or fissures in them, but there were so few of them!

It was exceptionally dry and hot this year, but no hotter than Ontario Oregon where they have the OreIda plant and fields.
What should I do to get a better crop next year, does anyone have suggestions?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2021 01:15 PM (KbLYZ)

21 Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2021 01:00 PM

Don't let the tomatoes you want to fry start to ripen.

Posted by: KT at October 23, 2021 01:16 PM (0ghg2)

22 What is spoiled, the chickens or the cantalope and watermelon?

Posted by: West at October 23, 2021 01:16 PM (QY+6a)

23 Puttering today with an oil change and cleaning the MAF on my commuter car. Fascinating stuff but needs to be done.
Really should be at the MoMe. After yesterday I am now truly convinced that I am antisocial. Felt truly honored to meet Ben Had, Weasel, Bob from NSA and DeeAnn. Forgot a few others names. But as is usually the case, we sat in the back and didn't mingle at all. Took 7 projectile launchers and a bunch of projectiles and left without a single launch. I did enjoy the sound of laughter and gunfire. I've always been shy but now I just feel plain rude. More like an asshole.

Posted by: 22LR at October 23, 2021 01:17 PM (wDRNN)

24 What is spoiled, the chickens or the cantalope and watermelon?
Posted by: West at October 23, 2021 01:16 PM (QY+6a)


I hate spoiled chicken, they just cluck and whine all the time.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2021 01:20 PM (KbLYZ)

25 Thank you, PHB, for the humming bird video. Usually, I only watch a few seconds of those kind of things to get the gist of it but I watched that one all the way through. For as pretty and delicate as they are, humming birds are really vicious, territorial little sh*ts, aren't they? Pretty much every time there were two birds in the frame, one of them was trying to run the other one away from the feeder.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 23, 2021 01:24 PM (nfrXX)

26 Thanks to KT and all the contributors. The videos are fascinating and I'm going to watch them more than once. For some reason, hummingbirds and the smaller song birds like chickadees and titmice have always captured my attention. (Probably the contrast between my size and theirs.) A favorite memory is getting a few inches away from a hummingbird feeding at a Rose of Sharon. The thing wasn't as big as my pinky but it let me approach. I never knew if it was preoccupied, blind, or very trusting.

Posted by: JTB at October 23, 2021 01:25 PM (7EjX1)

27 I've always been shy but now I just feel plain rude. More like an asshole.
Posted by: 22LR at October 23, 2021 01:17 PM (wDRNN)


Aw, I'm sorry I couldn't go this year. We could have hung out with you.

Posted by: Emmie at October 23, 2021 01:26 PM (6RgRK)

28 Been lurking have read often you can, you are adding carbon after all, don't get crazy with it.

Speaking of compost bins, my leaves are starting to come down so need to clean out bin of last year's leaves.
I keep them under plastic for another year before sifting out unwanted ( sticks, stones, seeds like peach and the hundreds of stickers on bananas) and putting in garden.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2021 01:27 PM (2JoB8)

29 Those cartoons are hilarious!! Mrs. JTB was probably wondering why I was laughing so hysterically for no apparent reason. I'm still giggling about the carpenter ants one.

Posted by: JTB at October 23, 2021 01:27 PM (7EjX1)

30 The Pineapple Sage grew and grew, and now it has brilliant red flowers on it, very beautiful. And it smells wonderful. I have cooked with it but can't swear to the flavor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2021 01:00 PM (KZzsI)


Mmmmm, pineapple sage! Smells delicious!

Posted by: Emmie at October 23, 2021 01:28 PM (6RgRK)

31 Jealous of that greenhouse!!

Posted by: keena at October 23, 2021 01:28 PM (RiTnx)

32 22LR If I could go would be in same predicament most likely.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2021 01:30 PM (2JoB8)

33 The Pineapple Sage grew and grew, and now it has brilliant red flowers on it, very beautiful. And it smells wonderful. I have cooked with it but can't swear to the flavor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2021 01:00 PM (KZzsI)


My Pineapple Sage did well this year too, even though I'm up in Eastern Ontario. It's got its bright red flowers, and even survived the first frost last night, but it won't be lasting much longer.

I've put ashes on areas of the lawn where moss grows - it does a good job killing it off, but I'd have to dig it up and improve the soil to grow good grass there, and I just can't be bothered. One thing I *do* use wood ashes for is putting down on the driveway and steps in the winter for traction. It's messy, of course, but they provide great traction, even better than sand. And of course when it washes away in the spring, it's better for the soil than salt.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at October 23, 2021 01:36 PM (jq2vu)

34 I actually have seen a few Monarchs here for the first time in years, one was caught on a single strand of a spider's web in a neighbor's yard, so i had to hang over my fence swinging around a broom handle, like a psychopath, to free it.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 23, 2021 01:37 PM (gpKIi)

35 Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2021 01:00 PM

Pineapple sage smells great, but it loses its fragrance when dried. It is good floated in fruit punch. You may be able to freeze some in ice cubes.

Posted by: KT at October 23, 2021 01:38 PM (0ghg2)

36 My black thumb found the perfect colorful potted plant / flower.

Miniature Mums.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 23, 2021 01:38 PM (2DOZq)

37 Thx all.

Yes hummingbirds are very aggressive. We have 3 feeders with a total of 12 stations. It doesn't matter if there are 2 or 6 hummingbirds around, they all want the same station. At about 1:00 you can see one stab another. Their mother should have told them to be careful with those sharp things.

Posted by: PointyHaired Boss at October 23, 2021 01:41 PM (hYeki)

38 It's too soon for details but we have hopes of expanding our veggie gardening over the next few years.

First, we need the exercise.

Second, I'm getting more and more concerned about contaminated produce, especially stuff from china.

Third, between age and, maybe, the medicine I take, my tastes are changing. Fresh tomatoes are not as appealing although canned is fine. Summer squash and herbs are more vibrant and flavorful. Young potatoes, simply boiled and with salt and pepper, are a treat. Fresh garlic in aroma and taste is ambrosia. Fresh melon is delicious. And so forth. I wonder if others are going through this change.

Maybe I'm just weird.

Posted by: JTB at October 23, 2021 01:42 PM (7EjX1)

39 The moth video is incredible.
BTW, if you like that type of thing check out his Youtube channel: Ant Lab - lots more there. He's the guy who inspired me to try taking slomo video of things I can't control - like bugs, birds & other critters.

Posted by: PointyHaired Boss at October 23, 2021 01:43 PM (hYeki)

40 My tennis club has a butterfly sanctuary. They have about 10 different species. Actually I call it a tennis club but the owner has turned it more into a zoo and botanical garden. After the freeze took out most of her tropical themed plantings /trees she spent 800k to replace it all . With the same stuff.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 23, 2021 01:43 PM (2DOZq)

41 I posted on this site before about the fanatics in Pacific Grove, CA and their Monarch obsessions. Weirdos. We saw some Monarchs around here late in the summer, but they're mostly gone now as there isn't anything in bloom and no milkweed either.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 23, 2021 01:46 PM (BFigT)

42 22LR,

A lot of the Horde are introverts. If I ever manage to make it a MoMe, I'll be back there with you. Went to the PNW MoMe. Was so tired out from camping overnight in the car, I left before I got to meet most of them. Will plan differently next time.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 23, 2021 01:47 PM (YynYJ)

43 Third, between age and, maybe, the medicine I take, my tastes are changing. Fresh tomatoes are not as appealing although canned is fine. Summer squash and herbs are more vibrant and flavorful. Young potatoes, simply boiled and with salt and pepper, are a treat. Fresh garlic in aroma and taste is ambrosia. Fresh melon is delicious. And so forth.

I'll second your opinion on home-grown potatoes - they're fantastic! People wonder why we grow potatoes, since they're so cheap to buy, but the taste is much better when they come from your garden. Plus, we grow unusual coloured varieties or heritage potatoes, to make it more rewarding.

I just planted my garlic last week - 50 cloves. I did it 2 years ago, but didn't know when to harvest, so they were too old when I dug them up. A few stragglers stayed in the garden over the winter and grew this year, so I pulled them when they were ready, and I LOVE the fresh garlic! So moist and highly scented. Next year I hope to have a big crop.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at October 23, 2021 01:48 PM (Rz63S)

44 I am an introvert bigly, so I was surprised at how easily i interacted with folks at the two meetups I've been to.

Hell, I go to office Christmas parties with people I work with every day and sit in the back nursing a drink. I've done the Irish goodbye at family gatherings. So being at a meetup is an odd and fun experience.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rage-oholic at October 23, 2021 01:50 PM (x8Wzq)

45 Ill be sitting on the patio later with cigar and single malt observing my yard as it slowly goes to sleep for the winter. Leaves turn and fall. Flowers whither and die. A must on the air.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 23, 2021 01:50 PM (axyOa)

46 PointyHaired Boss at October 23, 2021 01:43 PM

I didn't know. But you both use music with your videos!

Posted by: KT at October 23, 2021 01:51 PM (0ghg2)

47 I built a dryer this year out of odds and ends, and have been drying pears, plums, apples and peppers.
Christopher reminded me talking about sage that I was going to dry lemon balm for bedtime tea.

Dryers are simple you can buy them, or you can build them. Mine is the insulated box of a mini chest freezer, heated by a ceramic 150 watt heat element with forced airflow from a fan salvaged from an old computer wired to a transformer from an old cell phone charger. I use a salvaged indoor-outdoor thermometer to monitor the temperature. This is all powered through a powerstrip with a surge protector to avoid shorting the house out. One day I will do something prettier and fancier, maybe with a thermostat to control the heat. Currently it looks terrible, like I have a dead appliance on my back porch.

Grapes take about 3 days to turn into raisins. Basil dries in a day.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2021 01:51 PM (KbLYZ)

48 Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 23, 2021 01:47 PM (YynYJ)

Notsothoreau nails it. A lot of us are active on the blog because its easier than overcoming the shyness to gather in person. I have enjoyed smaller MoMes that I've attended. I will say that the horde are great folks and my comfort level for # of folks is quite a bit expanded at a MoMe versus a work meet up or something. But still I hesitate if I think a MoMe is going to be a large crowd.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 23, 2021 01:54 PM (pxVvf)

49 Martini Farmer at October 23, 2021 01:46 PM

I've never gone right into Pacific Grove during the Monarch season. I think the roosting areas are more residential than in Pismo Beach.

Pacific Grove started out as a religious community. Some of that vibe may continue.

Posted by: KT at October 23, 2021 01:55 PM (0ghg2)

50 > Ill be sitting on the patio later with cigar and single malt observing my yard as it slowly goes to sleep for the winter. Leaves turn and fall. Flowers whither and die. A must on the air.

Proper. I'll be doing something similar... cigar and a Martini or 3. Hoping the rain holds off, but it's a commin'.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 23, 2021 01:57 PM (BFigT)

51 > I've never gone right into Pacific Grove during the Monarch season. I think the roosting areas are more residential than in Pismo Beach.

Pacific Grove started out as a religious community. Some of that vibe may continue.
Posted by: KT at October 23, 2021 01:55 PM

There is a carve out for the "Monarch Sanctuary" but I don't know if you can actually go into it like you used to. Residential, yes, sort of. I lived there (nearby) from 2003 - 2013 and early on it was very accessible. Then a tree fell and killed a tourist. The typical California freakout followed.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 23, 2021 02:00 PM (BFigT)

52 I took off some dead branches with the pole saw. I have to go back out and move to the brush pile and maybe burn some right away. Its overcast today but not cold or windy. I am having a hard time overcoming the 'looks icky' to go out and do stuff even though the conditions are fine.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 23, 2021 02:01 PM (pxVvf)

53 As a follow up to my earlier comment about expanding the garden. It isn't to save money (although that would be a nice aspect) but to go for the taste we prefer and avoiding contaminates. It's just two older people so it's not like we have to feed a growing family on a tight budget. (We've had our tight budget days and have been frugal enough to relax a little these days.)

The biggest 'challenge' might be growing different styles of mint. The challenge being to keep the stuff from taking over the property.

Add lemon balm to that list.

Posted by: JTB at October 23, 2021 02:02 PM (7EjX1)

54 Pets is nood.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 23, 2021 02:04 PM (pxVvf)

55 Then a tree fell and killed a tourist. The typical California freakout followed.

They sued the dead person's estate for antagonizing the tree until it atacked?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at October 23, 2021 02:05 PM (SchxB)

56 Pineapple sage smells great, but it loses its fragrance when dried. It is good floated in fruit punch.

I'm thinking about using it in potpourri, without drying

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2021 02:23 PM (KZzsI)

57 Since there is no organic stuff in the soil, I am planning on buying a lot of mulch and potting soil.

I built a 4 foot by 8 foot planter box. I figured that there's a lot of nitrogen in the ashes.

Posted by: Been Lurking at October 23, 2021 02:25 PM (rDgjh)

58 https://tinyurl.com/yxkjkfst

Virtually no N in ash. Mainly it's used for P and increasing the pH (sweetening soil).

Posted by: MkY at October 23, 2021 03:00 PM (Foq6I)

59 I drove past a yard that had very tall (6 ft or more) plants with orangy-yellow flowers - thick stalks and an abundance of flowers (look to be 1 or 1 1/2 inches across). We're in upstate SC. Any ideas what they might be? I may have to knock on their door to find out what they are.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 23, 2021 03:09 PM (Mzdiz)

60 Hi all, late as usual to one of my favorite threads, TY for your work KT. I'll post anyway and check back, people seem to keep reading this and the pet thread for a bit.

I'm wondering what ate part of my potato. I dumped a pot that I'd planted w/ a sprouted russet eye. 4 medium sized taters, but one was eaten all the way thru the middle. I thought I maybe saw some little mite type thing on it. It's also got a white mold type growth on it. It was just the 1 out of 4. Any ideas?

Posted by: Farmer at October 23, 2021 04:53 PM (55Qr6)

61 From Boise area: Yes, I'm always close to last on this thread - I feel like I should get some work done, before posting about it!

Not much to say this week, though. Did a little raking - we had wind yesterday, and rain yesterday/today (more to come this week), so there will be plenty more raking to catch up on.

We canned a huge 3 half pints of tomato sauce this week. One last batch of tomatoes is waiting in the oven after roasting, for squashing/canning tomorrow. Then it's on to apples - we tasted the old tree's Golden Delicious apples, and they are ready.

I cut up more of our small poblanos for our freezer - we have a casserole recipe that uses them.

Anybody hit the gun range this week? (I rarely comment on the Gun Thread; takes too long to read all the previous comments.) We taught 2 youth rifle classes, and we hit the handgun range on our own behalf today.

Posted by: Pat* at October 23, 2021 06:33 PM (2pX/F)

62 I drove past a yard that had very tall (6 ft or more) plants with orangy-yellow flowers - thick stalks and an abundance of flowers (look to be 1 or 1 1/2 inches across). We're in upstate SC. Any ideas what they might be? I may have to knock on their door to find out what they are.

Miley, they might be Mexican Sunflowers. Mine got over 6ft tall and had bright red-orange flowers that resembled zinnias.

Posted by: JQ at October 23, 2021 07:00 PM (dB4Iz)

63 Today's puttering:

Cleaned off the deck and grouped some hardy potted plants together for overwintering outdoors. Have propagated about 50 euonymus for a neighbor.

One tree is bare, the rest are just starting to turn color. At this rate, might not get all the leaves raked up before snow arrives.

Planted garlic cloves last weekend-- a dozen in each of the 3 largest pots. Fresh garlic is such a treat!

Posted by: JQ at October 23, 2021 07:09 PM (dB4Iz)

64 Oh, and I brought the poinsettias indoors late last month. 2 red, 1 white. They're kinda puny. I didn't fertilize them over summer, my bad. Maybe they'll all rebloom & would be the third time for oldest one!

Posted by: JQ at October 23, 2021 07:14 PM (dB4Iz)

65 Hummingbirds love Guara too...I planted a row in front of the veggie garden fence and it's a major battle zone.

It's raining in the Central Valley, thank the Gods, we can breathe again after the almond harvest. I still have tons of Banana, Bell, Marconi & Cubanelle peppers. We have started picking the Manzanillo, mission, and kalamata olives to cure. Seems to be a banner year with nice plump olives. To me, other than a freezer full of meat, nothing says luxury like jars of cured olives.

Deer breached our fences this year and helpfully pruned the grapevines and the climbing roses. I planted a red rose on one corner post and a white on the opposite post of the veggie garden front fence...they meet in the middle of the arbor over the gate. This year York was winning.

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at October 24, 2021 12:39 PM (TdCQk)

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