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What does "post-progressive" mean? Imagine the possibilities

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Woodrow Wilson, a leader of the Progressive Movement, was the 28th President of the United States (1913-1921). After a policy of neutrality at the outbreak of World War I, Wilson led America into war in order to "make the world safe for democracy."

How Mad Men Explains Woodrow Wilson -- And How Not To Pick Leaders

After years of debate Princeton University has voted to remove Woodrow Wilson's name from its school of Public Policy because of his extreme racism. Wilson's views and actions were abhorrent even by the standards of his era. He discouraged Black students from attending Princeton and segregated the (previously integrated) federal workforce. You can imagine an African American student at Princeton, knowing his or her school was honoring this figure (or crossing the Potomac's Woodrow Wilson Bridge), telling themselves that he is being honored for his other achievements - despite his racism, not because of it. After all, Wilson was President of Princeton, Governor of New Jersey, and the President of the United States who led America to victory in the First World War. If anyone's achievements are large enough that they should be honored despite their racism, Wilson seems like an excellent candidate.

"People tell us who they are, but we ignore it because we want them to be who we want them to be." - Don Draper, Mad Men Season 5

Who did people want Joe Biden to be?

VDH: The Left got what it wanted -- So now what?

Gallup: Americans Revert to Favoring Reduced Government Role

Seems kinda late for that, IMHO.

Post-progressivism?

I ran across an appeal for people to join the cause of post-progressivism this week.

"Join the alliance".

Why now, I wonder?

The newly emerging perspective of cultural intelligence is post-progressive because, while it affirms progressive values, it also recognizes the legitimacy and ongoing necessity of modernist values and traditional values as well.

Cultural intelligence can see how each worldview's values are an integral part of America's overall cultural ecosystem. And like a biological ecosystem, these different parts of our cultural ecosystem are interdependent.

They have graphics. With the typical stereotypes. And a blog, educational materials, etc.

Traditionalism's negatives . . . include: racism, sexism, and homophobia. Traditionalists also have authoritarian tendencies. Yet like modernity, traditional culture needn't be eliminated, we can carry forward the best, while pruning away the worst.

Good thing Woodrow Wilson wasn't a "Traditionalist"! He could have been even more racist and authoritarian!

Post-progressive.org, meet Thomas Sowell:

Radical Traditionalism or Radical Leftism?

This is interesting. From the New York Sun:

To those stunned by Attorney General Merrick Garland's plan to use the USA Patriot Act* against parents protesting school curriculums, we commend the dissent by Justice Clarence Thomas in a case called Brown v. Entertainment Merchants. It will reassure you that you are not alone. There is at least one justice who comprehends the constitutional standing of parents in respect of their own children.

Brown v. Entertainment Merchants was decided by the Supreme Court in 2011. The court cashiered an attempt by California to prohibit the direct sale of violent video games to minors. The court reckoned the law was afoul of the First Amendment's freedom of speech clause. Justice Thomas' opinion is one of those dissents that, in the long haul, could well prove to be more important than the majority opinion.

That's because Justice Thomas's dissent is one of the most radical statements in the Himalayas of our Supreme Court jurisprudence on the constitutional prerogatives of parents. . .

Brown v. Entertainment Merchants arose after California passed a law banning the sale of violent video games to persons under the age of 18. California was promptly sued by, in Entertainment Mercahnts, a trade association. They were opposed by the governor, Edmund Brown, and the state attorney general, one -- remember this -- Kamala Harris. At the Supreme Court, the state of California lost.

Justice Breyer concluded that the law did comport with the First Amendment. Justice Thomas, though, came in from deep right field. "The founding generation," he wrote, "would not have considered it an abridgment of 'the freedom of speech' to support parental authority by restricting speech that bypasses minors' parents." He referenced, among others, the Puritan settlers and their view of the authority of the parents.

. . . After going through history over the centuries, Justice Thomas summed up with words that, we'd like to think, protesting parents might find encouraging.

"'The freedom of speech,' as originally understood, does not include a right to speak to minors without going through the minors' parents or guardians," Justice Thomas concluded. It would no doubt be an error to make too much of those words. Justice Thomas was, after all, alone in his dissent. However, it would not be an error, in our view, for America's beleaguered parents to take heart from what Justice Thomas wrote.

There is a "Dogs As Supreme Court Justices" video at the link. Really.

At the opposite side of the spectrum, Teen Vogue is now providing educational materials to schools.

America's education system has fallen to No. 22 in the world, but don't worry - They're from Teen Vogue, and they're here to help.

Teen Vogue has graduated from articles promoting communism, Marxism, and countless Democratic Party talking points. And now they're creating classroom content.

The magazine published an article headlined, "In Session: The Teen Vogue Lesson Plan," which seeks to mend what it calls a "patchwork education system" that exists thanks to a lack of a national curriculum, which would make it easier to steamroll states objecting to specific material and teaching methods.

Without intervention from Teen Vogue, teachers would continue depriving their students of don't miss topics such as "Tear Gas and Pepper Spray: What to Do If You're Exposed" and "What Is Environmental Racism? 10 Facts About How It Works."

There are several subjects that are likely already included in curricula - such as how a labor union works. But it's not enough unless they teach it the Teen Vogue way. . .

Meanwhile, during the pandemic, they have been promoting sexting.

And before that, there was this:

The once-trusted fashion and beauty teen publication of Conde Nast, Teen Vogue is now a parent's worst nightmare. Its editors have repeatedly ignored public pleas to stop posting and remove sexualized content targeting its "teen" demographic of 13-19 year olds, including the 46,000 concerned citizens who signed Enough Is Enough's (EIE) 2017 "Say No to Teen Vogue" petition launched in response to its article, "Anal Sex: What You Need to Know/How to Do it the Right Way."

The graphic, jaw-dropping "guide" told its young readers "This is anal 101, for teens, beginners, and all inquisitive folk," failed to mention the use of protection and neglected any warning of the health risks associated with anal sex, including the risk of transmitting HIV, according to the CDC.

The publication stressed to female "non-prostate owners": "Many vagina owners love anal play ... You don't need to have a prostate to enjoy anal sex ..." The guide also had a special section on "The appeal of anal sex when you have a prostate."

So now girls and women can be referred to in government documents as "non-prostate owners". YAY!

Though "owners" sounds sort of capitalistic. Get it together, Teen Vogue.

Music

We got a request last week for Moar Real Tango.

1951.


This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Hope you have something nice planned for the weekend.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:15 AM




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1
Read the content.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2021 10:19 AM (/U27+)

2
But still prevailed!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2021 10:19 AM (/U27+)

3 Priceless airport paging: https://tinyurl.com/hyk67yh3

Also - thanks for Sowell. He's always enlightening!

Posted by: 496 at October 16, 2021 10:20 AM (VJsqe)

4
I hereby declare this Hadrian the Seventh Land.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2021 10:20 AM (/U27+)

5 Read the content.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2021 10:19 AM (/U27+)

There will be a quiz.

Posted by: BignJames at October 16, 2021 10:21 AM (AwYPR)

6 Top ten

Posted by: First Time? Hold My Montrachet... at October 16, 2021 10:21 AM (/acFt)

7 What a priceless American treasure Thomas Sowell is.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 10:22 AM (Xrfse)

8
The publication stressed to female "non-prostate owners": "Many vagina owners love anal play ... You don't need to have a prostate to enjoy anal sex ..." The guide also had a special section on "The appeal of anal sex when you have a prostate."

____________

A repulsive practice encouraged by repulsive people.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2021 10:25 AM (/U27+)

9 I call bullshit.

American Tradition is one of tolerance, assimilation, community building, individual achievement.

Racism, totalitarianism, and bigotry have historically been the province of a very narrow band of a few sub-cultures, all of whom have at some point been co-opted by progressives and democrats in one form or another.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2021 10:25 AM (6FeV1)

10 Edith Wilson, a leader of the progressive movement and the 28th President of the United States...


FIFY

Posted by: Sock Monkey * synchronized at October 16, 2021 10:26 AM (cPrQ5)

11 A repulsive practice encouraged by repulsive people.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2021 10:25 AM (/U27+)

Take the short options on Mortons.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2021 10:26 AM (6FeV1)

12 Tango. It's what the astronauts dance.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 16, 2021 10:26 AM (VxC1e)

13 A repulsive practice encouraged by repulsive people.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

SMOD, come to us soon!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2021 10:27 AM (mD/uy)

14 Tango. It's what the astronauts dance.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 16, 2021 10:26 AM (VxC1e)

In their Uniforms.

After a glass of Whiskey.

Unless it's a Foxtrot.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2021 10:27 AM (6FeV1)

15 Sowell and Walter Williams.

Posted by: Infidel on the phone at October 16, 2021 10:27 AM (vzCV0)

16 So it is ok to cancel SOME people? Fuck that. You cant be a little pregnant. Either you oppose cancelling historic figures or you dont. There is no middle ground.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I Help Ya Help Ya Help Ya Variant at October 16, 2021 10:28 AM (RRhMz)

17 All so-called progressivism is regressive; change to the proven failed systems of socialism and communism. It's a lot like alchemy; the lead didn't turn to gold because you just didn't mix the right ingredients, but capitalism is more along the lines of, "mine more gold, work hard and earn more gold, or build a reactor and turn lead into gold, dummies".

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 10:28 AM (ynpvh)

18 I believe that one tango routine is the best tango routine on record.

Posted by: runner at October 16, 2021 10:28 AM (V13WU)

19 Wilson was this country's worst President. Period.

The Bidens and the Bobamas wouldn't exist without Wilson. He was the beginning of the end, and pretty much everything evil flows through him.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 10:29 AM (HN0nw)

20 16 So it is ok to cancel SOME people? Fuck that. You cant be a little pregnant. Either you oppose cancelling historic figures or you dont. There is no middle ground.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I Help Ya Help Ya Help Ya Variant at October 16, 2021 10:28 AM (RRhMz)

Wilson just LOVED him some first amendment. That's why, during the war, he had folks ARRESTED for reading the first amendment in public, as it was considered by the Wilson admin as an act of Sedition (Sedition act of 191.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 10:31 AM (ynpvh)

21 That top tango lady has huge elbows.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 16, 2021 10:31 AM (JUOKG)

22 Your forgetting Sundowner who has destroyed more in 10 months thanow Wilson

Posted by: Skip's Phone at October 16, 2021 10:31 AM (blbCj)

23 Ugh. 1918, not 191[happy face].

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 10:31 AM (ynpvh)

24
About the Declaration there is a finality that is exceedingly restful. It is often asserted that the world has made a great deal of progress since 1776, that we have had new thoughts and new experiences which have given us a great advance over the people of that day, and that we may therefore very well discard their conclusions for something more modern. But that reasoning can not be applied to this great charter. If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions. If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people. Those who wish to proceed in that direction can not lay claim to progress. They are reactionary. Their ideas are not more modern, but more ancient, than those of the Revolutionary fathers.

- Calvin Coolidge

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2021 10:31 AM (/U27+)

25 That top tango lady has huge elbows.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 16, 2021 10:31 AM (JUOKG)

average, but being short they stand out

Posted by: runner at October 16, 2021 10:33 AM (V13WU)

26 Edith Wilson, a leader of the progressive movement and the 28th President of the United States...


FIFY
Posted by: Sock Monkey * synchronized at October 16, 2021 10:26 AM (cPrQ5)

Technically, wouldn't she have been 29th?

I do get some amount of glee imagining that sour old woman cucking her husband right in front of him with Wilson's top advisor.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 10:33 AM (HN0nw)

27 24 ...
- Calvin Coolidge

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2021 10:31 AM (/U27+)

Amen to a wise man and President.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 10:33 AM (ynpvh)

28 let me retry..... average, but her being short - they stand out

Posted by: runner at October 16, 2021 10:33 AM (V13WU)

29 Holy cow can those two dance! Thanks, I needed that.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2021 10:33 AM (mD/uy)

30 26 Edith Wilson, a leader of the progressive movement and the 28th President of the United States...


FIFY
Posted by: Sock Monkey * synchronized at October 16, 2021 10:26 AM (cPrQ5)

Technically, wouldn't she have been 29th?

I do get some amount of glee imagining that sour old woman cucking her husband right in front of him with Wilson's top advisor.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 10:33 AM (HN0nw)

Wouldn't that be her...ahem...TOP advisor?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 10:34 AM (ynpvh)

31 We got a request last week for Moar Real Tango.

You rang? Can Cash come along too?

Posted by: Sylvester Stallone at October 16, 2021 10:35 AM (Do5/p)

32 I channel Edith Wilson before each press conference.

Posted by: Jen Psocki at October 16, 2021 10:35 AM (Xrfse)

33 I'm pretty sure the guy in the tango clip has an extra joint at connecting his torso to his hips and legs. Just awesome.

I could do that too, but in the same way the Joe Biden says "presidentin' is easy".

Posted by: pep at October 16, 2021 10:35 AM (ZsR3z)

34 Their ideas are not more modern, but more ancient, than those of the Revolutionary fathers.

- Calvin Coolidge
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2021 10:31 AM (/U27+)

This is the sad truth about conservatism, of which Coolidge might have been this nation's greatest adherent.

It only slows "progress," and never actually stops it. His own party of course, was a progressive party, and still is. Just not a FAST progressive party.

That's the paradox. Conservatism can never win, as long as there are humans running things.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 10:37 AM (HN0nw)

35
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 10:33 AM (HN0nw)

Wouldn't that be her...ahem...TOP advisor?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 10:34 AM (ynpvh)

I'm not sure, but I'm gonna guess on occasion he was her bottom advisor too.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 10:38 AM (HN0nw)

36 Calvin Coolidge

I have had this Calvin Coolidge quote up at every place I have worked since seeing it on the desk of a colleague at my last internship in college, 23 years ago. Had my program manager compliment me on it when he saw it flash up as my background on my computer during a presentation I gave a couple weeks ago.

Nothing In The World Can Take The Place Of Persistence.
Talent Will Not; Nothing Is More Common Than Unsuccessful Men With Talent.
Genius Will Not; Unrewarded Genius Is Almost A Proverb.
Education Will Not; The World Is Full Of Educated Derelicts.
Persistence And Determination Alone Are Omnipotent. The Slogan "Press On" Has Solved And Always Will Solve The Problems Of The Human Race."

Posted by: Sylvester Stallone at October 16, 2021 10:38 AM (Do5/p)

37 Annnnnd, we're back...

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at October 16, 2021 10:39 AM (Do5/p)

38 Post-progressive does not mean impalement, so I have very little to add to the discussion. I am not in a charitable mood today

KT, we are doing Tangos? Or Argentine stuff?

I ran across a lost bit of history, the Patagonian Strike, where workers in the sheep and wool industry that had its sales in the UK were suffering under the recession at the end of WWI, and were striking for better pay, focus on recruiting families instead of single men, better housing and that the proprietors of the company store speak and label things in Spanish instead of English.

At the behest of the British firms, the Argentine army was dispatched and shot as many of the strikers as they could find.
There is a movie about it called Facon Grande and there is a lot of Anarchist publications that ran out of steam in the late 20's for some reason . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2021 10:40 AM (KbLYZ)

39 Wilson's achievements outweigh his racism? Fuck that shit. I don't buy any of the premise, for one thing. For another, his "achievements" were shite, his legacy is awful, and his racism was virulent. If we're gonna play this retarded little game, there are about dozen historical figures less deserving of cancellation who already have been cancelled. He's only getting any kind of defense because he's a Leftist icon and the others aren't.

Secondly, these people can take their other false premises regarding "post-Progressivism" and run them flat up their pseudo-intellectual fartboxes. I ain't racist, sexist, etc. And if these hypocrites want to lay off their authoritarianism on the so-called traditionalists, maybe they should take a step back and look at the rigidly conformist dystopian Kafkocracy their precious Progs have built around all of us. Fuck all that shit, too.

*spits*

Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 16, 2021 10:40 AM (cTqLg)

40 I bet that tango couple could own a hacky sack.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 16, 2021 10:41 AM (OssQ4)

41 Post-Rational era.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Intermittent Faster, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at October 16, 2021 10:42 AM (4I/2K)

42 O/T, but it's Saturday, right?

There's country music, country and western music, and there's western music. Then there is Western AF.

Go to the Western AF channel on YouTube, and find and play all the ones starring my new find (she's been around but I missed her until now) . . .

Sienna Ferrell. Out of West Virginia.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 16, 2021 10:42 AM (4ZE6o)

43 "Free market capitalism" with an intentionally limited state government has not been the default setting in World history. The litte it's been tried it has worked fantastically well, no?

Wilson set himself against this. If this dour Christian didn't believe in the perfectability of man, he instead believed in the perfectabilty of the state.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 16, 2021 10:43 AM (ZHVt1)

44 Past a certain age you don't own a prostate, the prostate owns you.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at October 16, 2021 10:44 AM (II3Gr)

45 Tango is like sex standing up...

Posted by: lin-duh at October 16, 2021 10:44 AM (UUBmN)

46 Sienna Ferrell. Out of West Virginia.
Posted by: Mr Gaga

Thanks for the tip - she's terrific!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2021 10:44 AM (mD/uy)

47 Now I want a whip.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 16, 2021 10:44 AM (4thlk)

48 33 I'm pretty sure the guy in the tango clip has an extra joint at connecting his torso to his hips and legs. Just awesome.

I could do that too, but in the same way the Joe Biden says "presidentin' is easy".

Posted by: pep at October 16, 2021 10:35 AM (ZsR3z)


His knees bend in disturbing ways.

Posted by: Javems at October 16, 2021 10:45 AM (AmoqO)

49 Heading home, wish me luck

Posted by: Skip's Phone at October 16, 2021 10:45 AM (blbCj)

50 Tango is like sex standing up...
Posted by: lin-duh

Without falling down.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2021 10:45 AM (mD/uy)

51 The post progessive crap is retarded. Nothing about progessive politics is worth keeping. The labels racist authoritarian homophobe are tossed like a bomb at conservatives. Fuck these people in particular. Progessive attempts to rebrand itself. Spit!

Posted by: Lesko Brandon at October 16, 2021 10:47 AM (0OmEj)

52 Traditionalism's negatives . . . include: racism, sexism, and homophobia. Traditionalists also have authoritarian tendencies. Yet like modernity, traditional culture needn't be eliminated, we can carry forward the best, while pruning away the worst.

Another case example of why people who are estranged from God shouldn't be permitted to define their opponents from their stunted and amoral worldview.

If they see "traditionalism" from the viewpoint of "Life Unworthy of Life" perspective, then they are completely incapable of even comprehending any concept of transcendence nor morality. This makes it impossible for them to understand the foundational principles of "traditionalism" - so they try to define in it their extremely limited vocabulary and irrational context. Which produces failure as expected.

They literally cannot understand us. They are unequipped to do so.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 10:49 AM (+LCoQ)

53 Tango is like sex standing up...
Posted by: lin-duh at October 16, 2021 10:44 AM (UUBmN)

... and why dancing is forbidden.

Posted by: Baptists at October 16, 2021 10:50 AM (4I/2K)

54 That's the paradox. Conservatism can never win, as long as there are humans running things.

"The only legitimate right to govern is an express grant of power from the governed."

- William Henry Harrison

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 10:51 AM (Xrfse)

55 VDH article should read, "The Left Took What It Wanted"

Will not accept the premise that the Democrats won the election. Ever. Its made for a few interesting discussions.

Posted by: JROD at October 16, 2021 10:51 AM (0jZnq)

56 So if you consult the internet, they seem to have the narrative sewn up tight: Wilson was incompetent for the last two years of his Presidency, and his wife was "running" the country secretly.

Then there's this guy, Joseph Tumulty. According to the internet, he and the wife didn't get along too well, but he still managed to have a LOT more influence over events than the narrative claims.

In other words, he directed Edith, who was pretending to be listening to her husband the whole time, even though by then he was a babbling imbecile.

The REALLY funny thing is, the internet seems to have bought this notion that Edith and Joseph didn't get along. Even though he was right there, until after Wilson was out of office, at which time the great mystery is when Tumulty was shut out of the Wilson world.

It's like people think sex didn't exist in the 1920s.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 10:51 AM (HN0nw)

57 Wilson set himself against this. If this dour Christian didn't believe in the perfectability of man, he instead believed in the perfectabilty of the state.

Wilson was a Christian for as much as the current Pope.

They don't even know who God is, but their arrogance demands that they are never wrong and have nothing to learn.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 10:52 AM (+LCoQ)

58 "The only legitimate right to govern is an express grant of power from the governed."

- William Henry Harrison
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 10:51 AM (Xrfse)

What happens when the "express grant of power" is impossible to calculate, because the power has created a system by which granting that power is so corrupted beyond repair, nobody really knows who's been granted what by whom.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 10:54 AM (HN0nw)

59 Orquestra Romantica Milonguero

Besame Mucho

https://tinyurl.com/wejxczsw

Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2021 10:54 AM (KbLYZ)

60 You South Americans are so, how you say, suave with your Tangos and rolling 'rrrrrs.

I prefer real men style dancing. And bier drinking.

https://youtu.be/3hryXDRgMo0

Posted by: Gunther in Bavaria at October 16, 2021 10:54 AM (4I/2K)

61 What happens when the "express grant of power" is impossible to calculate, because the power has created a system by which granting that power is so corrupted beyond repair, nobody really knows who's been granted what by whom.

I believe that's what's alternatively referred to as a clusterf*ck.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 10:56 AM (Xrfse)

62 Wilson was maybe the worst thing that ever happened to the us. He was pure evil. Here's to him riding satans barbed cock still today. Spit!

Posted by: Lesko Brandon at October 16, 2021 10:57 AM (0OmEj)

63 some people believe that Wilson was essential in squashing the nationwide riots and strikes by the Wobblies, and other anarchist/socialist unions, but he mostly drove them underground by illegal enforcement, and by doing so also propped up the "respectable" unions that would side with the government instead of the workers.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2021 10:58 AM (KbLYZ)

64 Racism
Sexism
Homophobia
Authoritarianism


Homophobia? You mean opposition to grooming kids? Sure. And Authortarianism? What a f*cking joke. The primary complaint of the left for the last 20 years is that those damn traditionalists won't let us get enough power to change society in the way we want! That's the definition of anti-Authoritarianism.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 10:58 AM (ESjRY)

65 I believe that's what's alternatively referred to as a clusterf*ck.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 10:56 AM (Xrfse)

You ask for a fustercluck, I give you the modern American voting system.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 10:58 AM (HN0nw)

66 Back from the gunshow. There was a fairly long line to get in. When we left around an hour and a half later there was an even longer line to get in.

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at October 16, 2021 10:59 AM (YZG/i)

67 Progressive values include: environmentalism, diversity and inclusion, and social justice for every level of society

So let's see...can a born again Christian "traditionalist" participate in progressive society? No? That doesn't seem very inclusive.

And does social justice include allowing trannies to rape 15 year old girls at school?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:00 AM (ESjRY)

68 Conde Nast ruins everything it touches.

Posted by: CppThis at October 16, 2021 11:00 AM (UewuT)

69 What happens when the "express grant of power" is impossible to calculate, because the power has created a system by which granting that power is so corrupted beyond repair, nobody really knows who's been granted what by whom.

Why hello there young-ins!

Posted by: The Declaration of Independence at October 16, 2021 11:00 AM (ESjRY)

70 You ask for a fustercluck, I give you the modern American voting system.
Posted by: BurtTC
Yup. For decades they have been able to give the results the night of the election, mostly without computers, sometimes to within 40-50 votes (Thinking of Florida Bush/Kerry). Now, water main breaks etc. No confidence.

Posted by: MikeM at October 16, 2021 11:01 AM (5Y7fX)

71 Tango is like sex standing up...
Posted by: lin-duh

Without falling down.


Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2021 10:45 AM (mD/uy)

..to music !

Posted by: runner at October 16, 2021 11:01 AM (V13WU)

72 Woodrow Wilson was not great and didn't lead America to victory. He just broke his promise and happened to get lucky we weren't on the losing side. Badass American men lead America to victory. Typical Leftist.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:01 AM (EeAvh)

73 This is my government dick.
Without my dick I'm useless.
My dick without me...

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 11:01 AM (IMmgC)

74 Homophobia? You mean opposition to grooming kids? Sure. And Authortarianism? What a f*cking joke. The primary complaint of the left for the last 20 years is that those damn traditionalists won't let us get enough power to change society in the way we want! That's the definition of anti-Authoritarianism.

Traditionalism points to the Declaration of Independence. How on earth can anyone read that document and say it was a pro-authoritarian screed?

The only division in that document was: We will risk our lives, fortune and sacred honor to separate us from totalitarians.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:01 AM (+LCoQ)

75 And does social justice include allowing trannies to rape 15 year old girls at school?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:00 AM (ESjRY)

14 year olds.

And I think that falls into the diversity and inclusion category.

How dare you NOT let a tranny sodomize your daughter. You bigot you.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:01 AM (HN0nw)

76 You ask for a fustercluck, I give you the modern American voting system.

We're fundamentally fusterclucked.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 11:01 AM (Xrfse)

77 He just broke his promise and happened to get lucky we weren't on the losing side.

The world would have been better off if Wilson had done nothing.

Which is true of pretty much every progressive political leader.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:02 AM (ESjRY)

78 53 Tango is like sex standing up...
Posted by: lin-duh at October 16, 2021 10:44 AM (UUBmN)

... and why dancing is forbidden.
Posted by: Baptists at October 16, 2021 10:50 AM (4I/2K)

My Mennonite ancestors forbad having sex standing up because it might lead to dancing.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at October 16, 2021 11:02 AM (cSyAR)

79 Progressive values include: environmentalism, diversity and inclusion, and social justice for every level of society

It's all relative and on a sliding scale. These values can turn on a dime depending on the subject.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:03 AM (EeAvh)

80 Damn...Woody's photo screams "pinch-faced scold".

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 11:03 AM (Xrfse)

81 How on earth can anyone read that document and say it was a pro-authoritarian screed?


I asked some lefty LIVs how Trump was a tyrant and they told me he wouldn't issue lockdown diktats and mask mandates.

Why no, that makes no sense...does it?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (ESjRY)

82 Shorter post:

The DemonRats are always exactly what they accuse their opponents of being.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (pTHOC)

83 Woodrow Wilson was not great and didn't lead America to victory. He just broke his promise and happened to get lucky we weren't on the losing side. Badass American men lead America to victory. Typical Leftist.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:01 AM (EeAvh)

America didn't "win" the First World War.

The fact we participated means we lost, and have been losing ever since.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (HN0nw)

84 Racism
Sexism
Homophobia
Authoritarianism


"Tradition" can only recognize the last one since the first three were rather recent academic and post modern activist constructs purposely designed to destabilize, divide and bring power to those who carry those flags of hate.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (+LCoQ)

85 Progressive values include: environmentalism, diversity and inclusion, and social justice for every level of society

And I love the lefty take on environmentalism, namely, if we have them make it in China instead of here it is perfectly fine for the environment.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (ESjRY)

86 And does social justice include allowing trannies to rape 15 year old girls at school?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:00 AM (ESjRY)


True trannies have never been tried.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (KbLYZ)

87 66 Back from the gunshow. There was a fairly long line to get in. When we left around an hour and a half later there was an even longer line to get in.

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at October 16, 2021 10:59 AM (YZG/i)

And you can bet the ATFE was there in more than spirit, keeping track of cars and people. Illegal Aliens? Not tracked so much.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:05 AM (ynpvh)

88 "I prefer real men style dancing. And bier drinking."


Remember when they tried to make Irish River Dancing a thing?

Posted by: lowandslow at October 16, 2021 11:05 AM (4thlk)

89 I asked some lefty LIVs how Trump was a tyrant and they told me he wouldn't issue lockdown diktats and mask mandates.

Why no, that makes no sense...does it?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (ESjRY)

I think we've successfully diagnosed the problem. This world is insane.

Now... what's the cure.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:05 AM (HN0nw)

90 I asked some lefty LIVs how Trump was a tyrant and they told me he wouldn't issue lockdown diktats and mask mandates. Why no, that makes no sense...does it?

As we have witnessed, common sense has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 11:06 AM (Xrfse)

91 The fact we participated means we lost, and have been losing ever since.

As of 1914 one can see a pretty straight line as more and more of the world gets freer and freer.

After 1918 it generally starts moving backward.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:06 AM (ESjRY)

92 America didn't "win" the First World War.

The fact we participated means we lost, and have been losing ever since.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (HN0nw)

Sorry I don't get your point. We won the war but lost the peace I guess you could say.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:06 AM (EeAvh)

93 75 And does social justice include allowing trannies to rape 15 year old girls at school?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:00 AM (ESjRY)
14 year olds.
And I think that falls into the diversity and inclusion category.
How dare you NOT let a tranny sodomize your daughter. You bigot you.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:01 AM (HN0nw)

I'd rather they try that with a junkyard dog.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:07 AM (ynpvh)

94 Interesting. Was just coming to post a PJMedia article about redballoon.work.

https://tinyurl.com/59twydhm

They are basically a place where you join people who want to work with people who want to hire people who want to work, no woke politics required.

Posted by: squid_hunt at October 16, 2021 11:07 AM (7MBHe)

95 Traditionalists also have authoritarian tendencies.


F*cking bastards.

Progressives literally make you carry around your papers, ban you from attending church, visiting family, seeing loved ones in the hospital, attending graduations, weddings and funerals, get forced medical injections, track your bank transactions, snoop in your communications, and hide your face in shame like you are a diseased rat or a cockroach.

None of that stuff is "traditional".

If I were not a man touched by the grace of God, I'd feel the urge to find whoever wrote that and smash their head against a rock.

As is, I soldier on.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 16, 2021 11:07 AM (7F9te)

96 81 How on earth can anyone read that document and say it was a pro-authoritarian screed?

I asked some lefty LIVs how Trump was a tyrant and they told me he wouldn't issue lockdown diktats and mask mandates.

Why no, that makes no sense...does it?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (ESjRY)

Used to be you could define someone by what they did. For the Left, you are defined by what THEY do.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:08 AM (ynpvh)

97 I asked some lefty LIVs how Trump was a tyrant and they told me he wouldn't issue lockdown diktats and mask mandates.

Why no, that makes no sense...does it?


The Left has so well managed to deconstruct the language, and several generations of maleducation has produced a people who don't know what the word "tyrant" means. To them it is a slur and a sound that is intended to trigger the emotional association to "bad person".

Similar to when the college kids were yelling FJB and some whiny Karen called them "racists". She is too cowardly to confront them, so she consults her highly limited emotional vocabulary, finds the most hurtful word to her and then screams it hoping that her own mental illness and associated pathologies is found in her opponents she instantly now hates.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:08 AM (+LCoQ)

98 The fact we participated means we lost, and have been losing ever since.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (HN0nw)

Sorry I don't get your point. We won the war but lost the peace I guess you could say.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:06 AM (EeAvh)

No. The point is we never should have gone "over there" at all.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:09 AM (HN0nw)

99 Leftists have more projection than a bulimic runway model at an all you can eat buffet .

Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:09 AM (EeAvh)

100 98 The fact we participated means we lost, and have been losing ever since.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:04 AM (HN0nw)

Sorry I don't get your point. We won the war but lost the peace I guess you could say.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:06 AM (EeAvh)

No. The point is we never should have gone "over there" at all.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:09 AM (HN0nw)

But...But...But..the Zimmerman letters!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:10 AM (ynpvh)

101 Progressives literally make you carry around your papers

And to expand upon this point, it is only formal national and international socialist states (USSR/NAZI Germany, etc) that have traditionally claimed this level of power.

Traditional Banana Republics are *objectively* freer then American blue states.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:10 AM (ESjRY)

102 No. The point is we never should have gone "over there" at all.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:09 AM (HN0nw)

That's different discussion from whether we were victorious in the war.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:10 AM (EeAvh)

103 But...But...But..the Zimmerman letters!

We were arming the Allies and not the Central powers. Getting angry about hostility from the Central powers was...not a rational response.

But it would have required a great leader to keep America truly neutral and obviously we didn't have that at the time.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:12 AM (ESjRY)

104 Jordan Schachtel at dossier.substack.com
at_JordanSchachtel

Want to know what some of our former FDA commissioners are up to today?

Stephen Hahn sits on the board of the company that founded Moderna.

Scott Gottlieb is on the Board of Directors of Pfizer.

Mark McClellan sits on the Board of Directors at Johnson & Johnson.

The Trifecta!

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at October 16, 2021 11:12 AM (Do5/p)

105 What's untraditional about caring about the world we live in?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at October 16, 2021 11:12 AM (cSyAR)

106 One of the many things the left has done that pisses me intensely is how they subverted the definition of Liberal. And then had the gall to adopt that term.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 16, 2021 11:12 AM (KATBx)

107 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:09 AM (HN0nw)

But...But...But..the Zimmerman letters!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:10 AM (ynpvh)

I forget what's actually in the Zimmerman papers, but remember when I first read of them, I thought I was finally going to get the real reason we went to war (which I had never been able to grasp from school "history" classes).

Then I read them.... and thought "that's it? That's all we got???"

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:13 AM (HN0nw)

108 103 But...But...But..the Zimmerman letters!

We were arming the Allies and not the Central powers. Getting angry about hostility from the Central powers was...not a rational response.

But it would have required a great leader to keep America truly neutral and obviously we didn't have that at the time.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:12 AM (ESjRY)

There was also the Lusitania, but it did ACTUALLY have armaments on it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:13 AM (ynpvh)

109 I asked some lefty LIVs how Trump was a tyrant and they told me he wouldn't issue lockdown diktats and mask mandates.

Why no, that makes no sense...does it?


What do mean we lost? We won, big time.

Posted by: Central Bankers at October 16, 2021 11:13 AM (+LCoQ)

110 Arguably Nazism was peak progressive at that time.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at October 16, 2021 11:14 AM (cSyAR)

111 107 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:09 AM (HN0nw)

But...But...But..the Zimmerman letters!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:10 AM (ynpvh)

I forget what's actually in the Zimmerman papers, but remember when I first read of them, I thought I was finally going to get the real reason we went to war (which I had never been able to grasp from school "history" classes).

Then I read them.... and thought "that's it? That's all we got???"

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:13 AM (HN0nw)

That's sorta how I felt about Watergate. As a kid, I thought he must've done something so incredibly evil, the way people talked about Watergate...then I found out what it was about. Hell, Johnson did shit like that 10 fold worse.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:15 AM (ynpvh)

112 The Left has so well managed to deconstruct the language, and several generations of maleducation has produced a people who don't know what the word "tyrant" means. To them it is a slur and a sound that is intended to trigger the emotional association to "bad person".

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:08 AM

Remember when I used to end all my segments criticizing the polices of Bush and Republicans with... "Fascism!"

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at October 16, 2021 11:15 AM (Do5/p)

113 Progressive leaders want everyone to be an NPC except themselves.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:15 AM (EeAvh)

114 Back when 60 Minutes could have some entertainment, they had a blurb on the Tango in Finland. Still on YouTube. Seems my ancestors like it. One guy interviewed said one of the rules is not to vomit, vodka induced, on the lady's shoes.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 16, 2021 11:16 AM (C1Lsn)

115 The evil people in C.S. Lewis's space trilogy were progressives.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at October 16, 2021 11:16 AM (cSyAR)

116 107 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:09 AM (HN0nw)

But...But...But..the Zimmerman letters!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:10 AM (ynpvh)

I forget what's actually in the Zimmerman papers, but remember when I first read of them, I thought I was finally going to get the real reason we went to war (which I had never been able to grasp from school "history" classes).

Then I read them.... and thought "that's it? That's all we got???"

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:13 AM (HN0nw)

Yeah, it was essentially a contingency plan IF the US ever got involved on the side of the Allies explicitly. Well, yeah, at that point we WOULD have been their enemy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:17 AM (ynpvh)

117 No. The point is we never should have gone "over there" at all.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:09 AM (HN0nw)

That's different discussion from whether we were victorious in the war.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:10 AM (EeAvh)

Not really. Wars cost more than lives lost in battle, and "winning" often results in things getting worse for the "victors."

One could easily argue no war is morally defensible except a truly defensive war. Any time you are the aggressor, or show up uninvited, voluntarily, you're into the murky waters of moral ambiguity, and then have to start asking the question "why did our so-called leaders get us involved in the first place?"

The answer often is, because it suits them. And WE, the collective us, are the losers. Always.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:17 AM (HN0nw)

118 The evil people in C.S. Lewis's space trilogy were progressives.

CS Lewis really managed to capture the evil of modern bureaucrats. The Screwtape letters is another good example of the form.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2021 11:18 AM (ESjRY)

119 Yous guys argue about history as though you have a time machine and you can go back and correct reality.

Don't get stuck in the wrong time on your trip back. Like now.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 11:18 AM (IMmgC)

120 119 Yous guys argue about history as though you have a time machine and you can go back and correct reality.

Don't get stuck in the wrong time on your trip back. Like now.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 11:18 AM (IMmgC)

Well, the point is to LEARN from it, isn't it?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:19 AM (ynpvh)

121 Well, the point is to LEARN from it, isn't it?

That's DANGEROUS man. What if you learn the wrong things?

Posted by: The Left at October 16, 2021 11:20 AM (ESjRY)

122 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:13 AM (HN0nw)

That's sorta how I felt about Watergate. As a kid, I thought he must've done something so incredibly evil, the way people talked about Watergate...then I found out what it was about. Hell, Johnson did shit like that 10 fold worse.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:15 AM (ynpvh)

I forget the details now, but there was a case of FDR's campaign doing something quite similar. Somebody relatively low in the org took the fall, and the FDR juggernaut... eh, rolled on.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:20 AM (HN0nw)

123 Don't get stuck in the wrong time on your trip back. Like now.

It's all relative, my friend.

Posted by: Zombie Al Einstein at October 16, 2021 11:20 AM (Xrfse)

124 jim... yeah.

Mistakes gather us all. Eh?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 11:20 AM (IMmgC)

125 I ran across an appeal for people to join the cause of post-progressivism this week.

"Join the alliance".

Why now, I wonder?

The newly emerging perspective of cultural intelligence is post-progressive because, while it affirms progressive values, it also recognizes the legitimacy and ongoing necessity of modernist values and traditional values as well.
--------------------

Translation: "Uh oh. We effed up. Gotta dial this shit back and start looking reasonable for a while."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2021 11:22 AM (YqDXo)

126 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:13 AM (HN0nw)

Yeah, it was essentially a contingency plan IF the US ever got involved on the side of the Allies explicitly. Well, yeah, at that point we WOULD have been their enemy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:17 AM (ynpvh)

They say the Pentagon right now has contingency plans for all sorts of things, like Martian invasion and/or the zombie apocalypse. Not to mention how to fight Canada and Bora Bora, if they decide to invade.

I'd have for THOSE plans to fall into the hands of the Martians and/or the Bora Boreanans.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:22 AM (HN0nw)

127 122 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:13 AM (HN0nw)

That's sorta how I felt about Watergate. As a kid, I thought he must've done something so incredibly evil, the way people talked about Watergate...then I found out what it was about. Hell, Johnson did shit like that 10 fold worse.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:15 AM (ynpvh)

I forget the details now, but there was a case of FDR's campaign doing something quite similar. Somebody relatively low in the org took the fall, and the FDR juggernaut... eh, rolled on.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:20 AM (HN0nw)

FDR did a lot of that shit. Used the IRS as his cudgel. Went after the owner of a newspaper that was negative to him, for instance. I bet Obama LOVED the shit FDR pulled.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:23 AM (ynpvh)

128 Lol. That sidebar got the track stuck in my head. So I put on the Bee Gees Stayin Alive, just to work it through my system. Vanessa *loves* Stayin Alive. She was dancing her little pants off. I wish I'd caught it on video, hahaha.

Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 16, 2021 11:23 AM (cTqLg)

129 125 I ran across an appeal for people to join the cause of post-progressivism this week.
"Join the alliance".
Why now, I wonder?

The newly emerging perspective of cultural intelligence is post-progressive because, while it affirms progressive values, it also recognizes the legitimacy and ongoing necessity of modernist values and traditional values as well.
--------------------
Translation: "Uh oh. We effed up. Gotta dial this shit back and start looking reasonable for a while."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2021 11:22 AM (YqDXo)

Reminds me of the memes that went around a few years back, of "Join the Dark side. We've got cookies."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:24 AM (ynpvh)

130 Watched the movie Free Guy last night. Not an academy award but well worth the rental.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:25 AM (EeAvh)

131 Yous guys argue about history as though you have a time machine and you can go back and correct reality.

Don't get stuck in the wrong time on your trip back. Like now.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 11:18 AM (IMmgC)

Serious answer: For me it's about taking a view of our nation's history, and being honest about the times when we WERE the baddies.

Sure is a lot easier to see it now, when you don't look at school indoctrination on history as truth.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:25 AM (HN0nw)

132 Yous guys argue about history as though you have a time machine and you can go back and correct reality.

I didn't see the sarc tag.

So, if I understand this statement correctly, you were an eye-witness to each and every event, and you also have perfect recollection of all things seen and unseen.

If not, then you are relying on sources that are just as fallible and you are vouching, without evidence of credibility to your selected list of historians' accepted honesty and fidelity to reality.

Simply stated: What makes your sources to historical events better than ours?

Posted by: Central Bankers at October 16, 2021 11:25 AM (+LCoQ)

133 Translation: "Uh oh. We effed up. Gotta dial this shit back and start looking reasonable for a while."

Keywords being "for a while". Evil never sleeps.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 11:25 AM (Xrfse)

134 126 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:13 AM (HN0nw)

Yeah, it was essentially a contingency plan IF the US ever got involved on the side of the Allies explicitly. Well, yeah, at that point we WOULD have been their enemy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:17 AM (ynpvh)

They say the Pentagon right now has contingency plans for all sorts of things, like Martian invasion and/or the zombie apocalypse. Not to mention how to fight Canada and Bora Bora, if they decide to invade.

I'd have for THOSE plans to fall into the hands of the Martians and/or the Bora Boreanans.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:22 AM (HN0nw)

I like to call the locals of Del Mar Del Martians, but probably more correct to call them Del Marines.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

135 Dropping Creatures From Jekyll Island sock

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:26 AM (+LCoQ)

136 Evil never sleeps.


==


true

Posted by: runner at October 16, 2021 11:26 AM (V13WU)

137 Ballroom dancing is a hobby of mine. Takes a lot of practice to not trip each other up. First clip: His hand slide across her breast at 3:18 is to make sure there was no costume malfunction given the thrust prior. Second clip had the luxury of edit, but also very good along with the cig smoking and whip, lol. WW was a racist, a disgrace and an evil frail shell of a man, it's almost deja vu. TS an intellectual and a treasure. Thanks for posting TS clip also.

Posted by: MIMimi aka Mimi or MI if you're into the brevity thing at October 16, 2021 11:27 AM (wamUX)

138 The Calvin Coolidge fishing story that Brad Pitt tells in A River Runs Through It is pretty funny.

"Mr. President, what are they biting on?"

"The end of my line."

Posted by: Sharkman at October 16, 2021 11:27 AM (pTHOC)

139 132 Simply stated: What makes your sources to historical events better than ours?

Posted by: Central Bankers at October 16, 2021 11:25 AM (+LCoQ)

For some events, like WW1 and WW2, my Grandfather and Dad were not only witnesses, but participants, so I'll take their word over some other sources. LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:28 AM (ynpvh)

140 Serious answer: For me it's about taking a view of our nation's history, and being honest about the times when we WERE the baddies.

Sure is a lot easier to see it now, when you don't look at school indoctrination on history as truth.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:25 AM (HN0nw)

Don't get stuck on Presentism which is one of the Left's mental defects . Judging historical events based the the current moral and cultural standards.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:28 AM (EeAvh)

141 Read the policy positions at the post prog bs site. All of them are just repackaged leftist crap. The whole thing is a strawman argument over how traditionalists or conservatives are wrong. Like I said earlier. Fuck these folks in particular.

Posted by: Lesko Brandon at October 16, 2021 11:28 AM (0OmEj)

142 137 Ballroom dancing is a hobby of mine. Takes a lot of practice to not trip each other up. First clip: His hand slide across her breast at 3:18 is to make sure there was no costume malfunction given the thrust prior.

Posted by: MIMimi aka Mimi or MI if you're into the brevity thing at October 16, 2021 11:27 AM (wamUX)

Yeah, sure...he wasn't tryin' to cup-a-feel...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:29 AM (ynpvh)

143 History is a moving target.

Posted by: klaftern at October 16, 2021 11:29 AM (taPSh)

144 I like to call the locals of Del Mar Del Martians, but probably more correct to call them Del Marines.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

Del Mar is one of those names that show up, seem to have been thought up in that heady post-war era of naming things to make them SOUND exotic, when even at the time most people would have had to know it was trashy kitsch.

Like "Hotel Del Mar," and "Steak Del Mar." Ooh, now that's fancy!

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:30 AM (HN0nw)

145 said one of the rules is not to vomit, vodka induced, on the lady's shoes.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Evergreen advice.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2021 11:30 AM (mD/uy)

146 For some events, like WW1 and WW2, my Grandfather and Dad were not only witnesses, but participants, so I'll take their word over some other sources. LOL

Using same logic: Right now we are both living during the CoViD Plannedemic. So we each have perfect comprehensive practically omniscient knowledge of the origins, motives, interactions, transactions, deployment, response and continued action from all actors, at all levels.

So we should agree on absolutely everything related to SARS-CoV-2, right?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:31 AM (+LCoQ)

147 Anyone heard this?

This one is new to me--- My local, USAToday toilet rag had an editorial yesterday calling for a memorial to the FOUR Capitol Police officers who COMMITTED SUICIDE following COMBAT on January 6th, and this was accompanied by a picture of "insurrectionists" knocking down what looks like a bike rack.

And yet, I bet millions read that , mouthing the words and shaking their heads, believing all of it.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2021 11:31 AM (mR6Gs)

148 To get a real read on "progressive values," read Edward Bellamy's "Looking Backward," progressive porn from the late 19th century, on how wonderful every was going to be if only socialist crap were implemented.

The book is available free on Project Gutenberg, and is well worth reading in the spirit of gaining intel on the enemy.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/25439

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2021 11:31 AM (YqDXo)

149 140 Serious answer: For me it's about taking a view of our nation's history, and being honest about the times when we WERE the baddies.

Sure is a lot easier to see it now, when you don't look at school indoctrination on history as truth.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:25 AM (HN0nw)

Don't get stuck on Presentism which is one of the Left's mental defects . Judging historical events based the the current moral and cultural standards.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:28 AM (EeAvh)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1y_0NfhF9c

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:31 AM (ynpvh)

150 "Close-mouthed Cal communes with the crappies."

Ahh, I love that movie.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 16, 2021 11:31 AM (pTHOC)

151 Don't get stuck on Presentism which is one of the Left's mental defects . Judging historical events based the the current moral and cultural standards.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:28 AM (EeAvh)
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The actions of the Democrat Party being exempt from this, of course.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2021 11:33 AM (YqDXo)

152 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:25 AM (HN0nw)

Don't get stuck on Presentism which is one of the Left's mental defects . Judging historical events based the the current moral and cultural standards.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 11:28 AM (EeAvh)

You seem to be stuck on something else posted by KT above, that I'm not interested in. There's no simple "did we win or lose the war." There really isn't. It's not modern revisionism to look back on history, and compare what actually happened to the propaganda that is written by the SAME types of people who write narratives today.

There's always information one can absorb, that doesn't follow the narrative, and often shines light on what really happened, in part because the people who WROTE the narrative are trying to lie to you.

Don't buy the lies. The truth is out there.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:33 AM (HN0nw)

153 Don't get stuck on Presentism which is one of the Left's mental defects . Judging historical events based the the current moral and cultural standards.

Especially since today's "current moral and cultural standards" are indistinguishable from criminal insanity flavored with depraved indifference and superstition.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:34 AM (+LCoQ)

154 @disclosetv 8m

JUST IN - Delta Air Lines ditches "divisive" #COVID19 vaccine mandate, CEO Ed Bastian announces (Fox)

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2021 11:35 AM (cF8AT)

155 146 For some events, like WW1 and WW2, my Grandfather and Dad were not only witnesses, but participants, so I'll take their word over some other sources. LOL

Using same logic: Right now we are both living during the CoViD Plannedemic. So we each have perfect comprehensive practically omniscient knowledge of the origins, motives, interactions, transactions, deployment, response and continued action from all actors, at all levels.

So we should agree on absolutely everything related to SARS-CoV-2, right?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:31 AM (+LCoQ)

Each is a part of the story. Documents sent by the various parties is evidence. Actions commited by each of the parties is evidence.
The Left takes that evidence and skews it like the old Lincoln joke to told jurors in a bar...
A boy runs to his father and says, "Pa, Pa! I saw my sister and the work hand in the hay loft, and she was a pulling up her dress and he was a pulling down his drawers. I think they're a gonna piss all over the hay!"
Dad replies, "Son, you have all the facts right, but have come up to the wrong conclusion."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

156 Don't buy the lies. The truth is out there.

Scoop it up while you can. It's disappearing as we have this discourse.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 11:36 AM (Xrfse)

157 That's sorta how I felt about Watergate. As a kid, I thought he must've done something so incredibly evil, the way people talked about Watergate...then I found out what it was about. Hell, Johnson did shit like that 10 fold worse.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:15 AM (ynpvh)

And yet, after all that we know about our government trying to get rid of Trump, when 2022-24 rolls around, the 50th Anniversary of the Watergate, will still be treated by the media as the WORST THING EVER with documentaries and books and commentary from whatever asshats involved are still alive---Woodward and Bernstein, John Dean, Richard Ben Veniste, etc.....

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2021 11:36 AM (mR6Gs)

158 There were two Zimmerman telegraphs, the first was a contingency based on us getting involved after Germany went to full blown unrestricted sub warfare. The second proposed immediate alliance based on the first ones text being revealed. As a bonus, the telegraph's were sent on a us line devoted to allowing germans to communicate privately over peace proposals that wilson could push. Btw, casus belli technically exited when us citizens were killed by submarine action even apart from us flagged ships being sunk without warning.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2021 11:36 AM (50msq)

159 They say the Pentagon right now has contingency plans for all sorts of things, like Martian invasion and/or the zombie apocalypse. Not to mention how to fight Canada and Bora Bora, if they decide to invade.
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Any plans to deal with wholesale BLM/antifa riots in the cities?

Didn't think so.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2021 11:37 AM (YqDXo)

160 @disclosetv 8m

JUST IN - Delta Air Lines ditches "divisive" #COVID19 vaccine mandate, CEO Ed Bastian announces (Fox)
Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2021 11:35 AM (cF8AT)

Good, the more this happens, the better off we'll be.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2021 11:37 AM (mR6Gs)

161 157 That's sorta how I felt about Watergate. As a kid, I thought he must've done something so incredibly evil, the way people talked about Watergate...then I found out what it was about. Hell, Johnson did shit like that 10 fold worse.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:15 AM (ynpvh)

And yet, after all that we know about our government trying to get rid of Trump, when 2022-24 rolls around, the 50th Anniversary of the Watergate, will still be treated by the media as the WORST THING EVER with documentaries and books and commentary from whatever asshats involved are still alive---Woodward and Bernstein, John Dean, Richard Ben Veniste, etc.....

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2021 11:36 AM (mR6Gs)

No, they'll say it's 2nd to Trump.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:37 AM (ynpvh)

162 That's sorta how I felt about Watergate. As a kid, I thought he must've done something so incredibly evil, the way people talked about Watergate...then I found out what it was about. Hell, Johnson did shit like that 10 fold worse.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:15 AM (ynpvh)
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Not to mention Obama.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2021 11:37 AM (YqDXo)

163 Hi Horde! Great mid-morning post.

I'm off to "Wine at the Shrine" supporting the Franciscan Center of Baltimore and their Little Portion Farm.

Hope you have fun plans too!

cheers!

Posted by: Iris at October 16, 2021 11:38 AM (6lKe4)

164 Each is a part of the story. Documents sent by the various parties is evidence. Actions commited by each of the parties is evidence.
The Left takes that evidence and skews it like the old Lincoln joke to told jurors in a bar...


I'm going to add that anecdote to my social inventory.

Interesting now, most articles on events today are light on facts, heavy on opinion and biased imputation of motive.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:38 AM (+LCoQ)

165 158 There were two Zimmerman telegraphs, the first was a contingency based on us getting involved after Germany went to full blown unrestricted sub warfare. The second proposed immediate alliance based on the first ones text being revealed. As a bonus, the telegraph's were sent on a us line devoted to allowing germans to communicate privately over peace proposals that wilson could push. Btw, casus belli technically exited when us citizens were killed by submarine action even apart from us flagged ships being sunk without warning.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2021 11:36 AM (50msq)

I seem to recall the Germans warned they would sink any ships carrying armaments to the German's enemies. Those ships, I believe were carrying arms. Wilson WANTED a war, and got us into one.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:39 AM (ynpvh)

166
No, they'll say it's 2nd to Trump.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:37 AM (ynpvh)

Especially if Trump is President in 2024

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2021 11:39 AM (mR6Gs)

167 I seem to recall the Germans warned they would sink any ships carrying armaments to the German's enemies. Those ships, I believe were carrying arms. Wilson WANTED a war, and got us into one.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:39 AM (ynpvh)

I believe today the formulation is "never let a crisis go to waste."

Posted by: Zombie Woodrow Wilson at October 16, 2021 11:40 AM (mR6Gs)

168 Don't buy the lies. The truth is out there.
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Scoop it up while you can. It's disappearing as we have this discourse.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 11:36 AM (Xrfse)

I'm actually more hopeful about this than I once was. The internet is a big place, and ideas get exchanged outside the control of the rulers, more now than ever.

The more they try to clamp down on truth, the more it sprouts all around. So unless they end up trying to slaughter us all (and they might), they can't stop the spread of truth.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:41 AM (HN0nw)

169 "JUST IN - Delta Air Lines ditches "divisive" #COVID19 vaccine mandate, CEO Ed Bastian announces (Fox)"


He's just saying they never had mandates but they'll be at over 90% vaccinated when the federal mandate kicks in.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 16, 2021 11:42 AM (4thlk)

170 168 Don't buy the lies. The truth is out there.
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Scoop it up while you can. It's disappearing as we have this discourse.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 11:36 AM (Xrfse)

I'm actually more hopeful about this than I once was. The internet is a big place, and ideas get exchanged outside the control of the rulers, more now than ever.

The more they try to clamp down on truth, the more it sprouts all around. So unless they end up trying to slaughter us all (and they might), they can't stop the spread of truth.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:41 AM (HN0nw)

They try to block it as much as they can, and flood their lies so that it's finding your needle in a needle stack.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:43 AM (ynpvh)

171 Any plans to deal with wholesale BLM/antifa riots in the cities?

Didn't think so.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2021 11:37 AM (YqDXo)

Why would there be a plan to deal with their troops, their vanguard?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:43 AM (HN0nw)

172 165 under international law at time, neutrals could be warned to turn away abd then captured or sunk but not sunk without warning on high sea.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2021 11:44 AM (50msq)

173 If anyone's achievements are large enough that they should be honored despite their racism, Wilson seems like an excellent candidate.

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This is incredible horseshit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 11:44 AM (d9FiS)

174 Almost home

Posted by: Skip's Phone at October 16, 2021 11:44 AM (blbCj)

175 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:41 AM (HN0nw)

They try to block it as much as they can, and flood their lies so that it's finding your needle in a needle stack.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:43 AM (ynpvh)

The masses absorb the lies. They believe them.

If there is GOING to be a revolt against the status quo, it isn't going to come from the masses. It never does.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:44 AM (HN0nw)

176 They say the Pentagon right now has contingency plans for all sorts of things, like Martian invasion and/or the zombie apocalypse. Not to mention how to fight Canada and Bora Bora, if they decide to invade.


Quick! Chief of Staff - Retrieve Plan M !! (Plans to deal with a bad manicure for a Major General)

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2021 11:44 AM (mD/uy)

177 171 Any plans to deal with wholesale BLM/antifa riots in the cities?

Didn't think so.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2021 11:37 AM (YqDXo)

Why would there be a plan to deal with their troops, their vanguard?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:43 AM (HN0nw)

Oh, they have plans for riots alright, but only to be used when the RIGHT kind of people protest.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

178 Afternoon, Horde. Sitting (lying abed) in the ICU. Had a heart attack yesterday. Echo cardiogram and cath procedure is next. Hopefully, I just need a stent or two.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 16, 2021 11:45 AM (tG6OF)

179 The plan IS BLM/ANTIFA riots.

Posted by: klaftern at October 16, 2021 11:46 AM (taPSh)

180 If anyone's achievements are large enough that they should be honored despite their racism, Wilson seems like an excellent candidate.

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This is incredible horseshit.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 11:44 AM (d9FiS)

It absolutely is. Is this quoted from the article KT posted, or one of the commenters here?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:46 AM (HN0nw)

181 They say the Pentagon right now has contingency plans for all sorts of things, like Martian invasion and/or the zombie apocalypse. Not to mention how to fight Canada and Bora Bora, if they decide to invade

Evacuation from Afghanistan plan?

Posted by: weirdflunky at October 16, 2021 11:46 AM (cknjq)

182 178 Afternoon, Horde. Sitting (lying abed) in the ICU. Had a heart attack yesterday. Echo cardiogram and cath procedure is next. Hopefully, I just need a stent or two.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 16, 2021 11:45 AM (tG6OF)

Damn, Mike. Hope you get better quickly.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:46 AM (ynpvh)

183 Speaking of incredible horseshit . . .

Jason Rantz on KTTH Radio
@jasonrantz
Jen Psaki Defends Rising Prices: 'Good Thing' Because it Means 'More People are Buying Goods'

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 11:47 AM (d9FiS)

184 The brits were ironically following law as they warned and then boarded, stopped ships heading for Germany or sank them after warning them to stop and be boarded. The brits had the surface ships to enforce a blockade the old fashioned way.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2021 11:47 AM (50msq)

185 Iron Mike Golf!! Prayers Brother!

We can build him better than he was.


Glad you are in pretty good shape. Give Nurse Goodbody a 'hubba' for me please.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2021 11:47 AM (mD/uy)

186 The notion that unrestricted submarine warfare is just part of war is a good example of presentism. People in 1914-18 were appalled at the idea (except for the Germans).

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos (meh, it's a living) at October 16, 2021 11:47 AM (3DZIZ)

187 181 They say the Pentagon right now has contingency plans for all sorts of things, like Martian invasion and/or the zombie apocalypse. Not to mention how to fight Canada and Bora Bora, if they decide to invade

Evacuation from Afghanistan plan?

Posted by: weirdflunky at October 16, 2021 11:46 AM (cknjq)

Sorry, they had to dump that one, as it was constructed under Trump's admin. It became, "Hasty withdrawal, give weapons to our enemies, blame Trump"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:48 AM (ynpvh)

188 Afternoon, Horde. Sitting (lying abed) in the ICU. Had a heart attack yesterday. Echo cardiogram and cath procedure is next. Hopefully, I just need a stent or two.

Prayers up.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at October 16, 2021 11:48 AM (SchxB)

189 It absolutely is. Is this quoted from the article KT posted, or one of the commenters here?
Posted by: BurtTC

The quoted article.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 11:48 AM (d9FiS)

190 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 16, 2021 11:48 AM (arJlL)

191 183 Speaking of incredible horseshit . . .

Jason Rantz on KTTH Radio
@jasonrantz
Jen Psaki Defends Rising Prices: 'Good Thing' Because it Means 'More People are Buying Goods'

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 11:47 AM (d9FiS)

I'm sure the Weimer Germans felt the same way.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:48 AM (ynpvh)

192 Bad as he was, Wilson wasn't Pol Pot. And he was an important historical figure.

The better answer is to name more things after Coolidge

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 16, 2021 11:49 AM (ZHVt1)

193 Psaki defends Death: "More room for the rest of us"

Posted by: klaftern at October 16, 2021 11:49 AM (taPSh)

194 If anyone's achievements are large enough that they should be honored despite their racism, Wilson seems like an excellent candidate.

Wilson was a real POS, but I fear that cancelling him opens the door to cancelling others--Washington, Jefferson--and just about everyone else in our past whose racial bonifides don't match up with ours

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2021 11:49 AM (mR6Gs)

195 They say the Pentagon right now has contingency plans for all sorts of things, like Martian invasion and/or the zombie apocalypse. Not to mention how to fight Canada and Bora Bora, if they decide to invade

Evacuation from Afghanistan plan?


Yeah, the DoD has joined much other industries and has outsourced its plan making to China.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:49 AM (+LCoQ)

196 The better answer is to name more things after Coolidge
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 16, 2021 11:49 AM (ZHVt1)

This

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2021 11:50 AM (mR6Gs)

197 Remember when I used to end all my segments criticizing the polices of Bush and Republicans with... "Fascism!"
Posted by: Keith Olbermann


Nope, don't remember that. Who are you again?

Posted by: Oddbob at October 16, 2021 11:50 AM (nfrXX)

198 194 If anyone's achievements are large enough that they should be honored despite their racism, Wilson seems like an excellent candidate.

Wilson was a real POS, but I fear that cancelling him opens the door to cancelling others--Washington, Jefferson--and just about everyone else in our past whose racial bonifides don't match up with ours

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2021 11:49 AM (mR6Gs)

Our version of the Cultural Revolution. Destroy the past so there is no past, recreate it in any image you would like.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:51 AM (ynpvh)

199 Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 16, 2021 11:45 AM

Holy moly, take it easy and get well soon.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 16, 2021 11:51 AM (4thlk)

200 Evacuation from Afghanistan plan?
Posted by: weirdflunky at October 16, 2021 11:46 AM (cknjq)

Don't be silly. Why would they have one of those.

The "history" of the end of the Afghan adventure is being written as we speak. Word is, Trump had negotiated with the Tolly Bon, to give us enough time to get our men and material out. The problem is, if the world had seen us bugging out, they would have (correctly) assumed we were admitting defeat.

So Team Biden decided to continue to pretend we had set up a strong military and government in Shitholeistan, with the knowledge beforehand that it was going to fall as soon as we left.

I have no idea what they thought would happen otherwise, but apparently the one thing are military industrial complex and CIA could NOT allow them to do, was admit the last 20 years was a total loss.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:51 AM (HN0nw)

201 197 Remember when I used to end all my segments criticizing the polices of Bush and Republicans with... "Fascism!"
Posted by: Keith Olbermann

Nope, don't remember that. Who are you again?

Posted by: Oddbob at October 16, 2021 11:50 AM (nfrXX)

I think some MSNBS douchebag with an over-inflated ego. Okay, they just about fits all the "reporters" at MSNBS...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:52 AM (ynpvh)

202 Our version of the Cultural Revolution. Destroy the past so there is no past, recreate it in any image you would like.

To wit, in most man-in-the-street interviews, the consensus is that Abraham Lincoln was a Democrat.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:52 AM (+LCoQ)

203 Comrade Bernie is very, very upset.

Ursula Perano
@UrsulaPerano
New Sanders statement pins blame on the media for Americans' lack of awareness of what's in the BBB plan, says press has done an "exceptionally poor job" covering the bill and that there has been "very limited coverage as to what the provisions of the bill are"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 11:52 AM (d9FiS)

204 Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery, IMG.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 16, 2021 11:53 AM (nfrXX)

205 Since Utoob has taken down all videos of how to take horse paste, where can I find instructions on how much to take? We have the tubes and I want to put written instructions in with them.

Posted by: megthered at October 16, 2021 11:53 AM (vvWGB)

206 200 I have no idea what they thought would happen otherwise, but apparently the one thing are military industrial complex and CIA could NOT allow them to do, was admit the last 20 years was a total loss.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:51 AM (HN0nw)

As long as the CIA's opium supplies are solid, they don't care.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:53 AM (ynpvh)

207 154 @disclosetv 8m

JUST IN - Delta Air Lines ditches "divisive" #COVID19 vaccine mandate, CEO Ed Bastian announces (Fox)

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2021 11:35 AM (cF8AT)


here's another one for Tall Cool Gent

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2021 11:54 AM (DJFLF)

208 If anyone's achievements are large enough that they should be honored despite their racism, Wilson seems like an excellent candidate.

Wilson was a real POS, but I fear that cancelling him opens the door to cancelling others--Washington, Jefferson--and just about everyone else in our past whose racial bonifides don't match up with ours
Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2021 11:49 AM (mR6Gs)

Wilson was a complete and evil monster. The solution, if there is one, is not to prop up a human stain like him, it's to cancel cancel culture altogether.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:54 AM (HN0nw)

209 Wilson was in the beginning of the Socialist movement, always thought he was a disaster until Barky now Sundowner.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 11:54 AM (2JoB8)

210 Hope they get you fixed up and out of there soon, IMG.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 16, 2021 11:54 AM (YynYJ)

211 Posted by: megthered at October 16, 2021 11:53 AM (vvWGB)

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

I suggest you print out the protocol because who knows when this site will get zitzed

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2021 11:55 AM (DJFLF)

212 205 Since Utoob has taken down all videos of how to take horse paste, where can I find instructions on how much to take? We have the tubes and I want to put written instructions in with them.

Posted by: megthered at October 16, 2021 11:53 AM (vvWGB)

Concentration and dosage, I would assume, are key, but that requires some elementary math, and I was told to avoid maths.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:55 AM (ynpvh)

213 As long as the CIA's opium supplies are solid, they don't care.

This is exactly what we have been talking about for the past half hour in respect of Presentism.

The CIA no longer needs its funding through opium trafficking. China's fentanyl has muscled in to that operation so the CIA is now into human sex trafficking from the open southern border and has "gone legit" by invested heavily in companies providing the mRNA shots.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:56 AM (+LCoQ)

214 Ursula Perano
@UrsulaPerano
New Sanders statement pins blame on the media for Americans' lack of awareness of what's in the BBB plan, says press has done an "exceptionally poor job" covering the bill and that there has been "very limited coverage as to what the provisions of the bill are"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 11:52 AM (d9FiS)

Translation: What's actually IN the bill have been leaked to the masses, and we can't have that!

Do better, media.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:56 AM (HN0nw)

215
Rush Limbaugh used to often mention his astute observation of obama being a "blank slate" in 2008. Rush said obama would even be on both sides of every issue -- just so obama would be whoever you wanted him to be.

Rush was right.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 11:56 AM (HFwZY)

216 208 If anyone's achievements are large enough that they should be honored despite their racism, Wilson seems like an excellent candidate.

Wilson was a real POS, but I fear that cancelling him opens the door to cancelling others--Washington, Jefferson--and just about everyone else in our past whose racial bonifides don't match up with ours
Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2021 11:49 AM (mR6Gs)

Wilson was a complete and evil monster. The solution, if there is one, is not to prop up a human stain like him, it's to cancel cancel culture altogether.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:54 AM (HN0nw)

Maybe a Guy Fawkes day, but for Wilson?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:56 AM (ynpvh)

217 Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 16, 2021 11:45 AM

Holy moly, take it easy and get well soon.
Posted by: lowandslow

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at October 16, 2021 11:56 AM (arJlL)

218 186, yes it is. Germany claimed a submarine would be handicapped if it followed the existing intl law which was designed for surface ships

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2021 11:57 AM (50msq)

219 I prefer Tanko dancing. Ja.

Posted by: Erwin Rommel at October 16, 2021 11:57 AM (o4PBv)

220 That second tango clip is just funny. There's really not much tango, just a bunch of spinning and dipping and whipping.

leave it to Hollywood

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2021 11:57 AM (DJFLF)

221 And now is the time to get your COVID kit together if you intend to. Horse medicine (because doctors will lose their license for prescribing it in NC), vitamins, etc., and talk to your doctor about how it would be handled if you catch it.

"Go home and wait until you're dying to come back to the hospital so we can cash in on you" is not the correct answer.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 16, 2021 11:57 AM (jaQXh)

222 The CIA no longer needs its funding through opium trafficking. China's fentanyl has muscled in to that operation so the CIA is now into human sex trafficking from the open southern border and has "gone legit" by invested heavily in companies providing the mRNA shots.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 11:56 AM (+LCoQ)

It's impossible to know exactly what the CIA is up to... they are a secret organization, after all.

Just assume whatever they're doing is evil, and you nailed it. Exact details aren't necessary.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:58 AM (HN0nw)

223 16 So it is ok to cancel SOME people? Fuck that. You cant be a little pregnant...
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I Help Ya Help Ya Help Ya Variant at October 16, 2021 10:28 AM

Let's not be too hasty here. Just a few years ago, none of us thought men could become pregnant, but, in the words of Ian (commie doppelganger) Malcom, Marxism found a way.

Posted by: Moron Philosopher at October 16, 2021 11:58 AM (U+v0Q)

224 Rush Limbaugh used to often mention his astute observation of obama being a "blank slate" in 2008. Rush said obama would even be on both sides of every issue -- just so obama would be whoever you wanted him to be.

**

IIRC that was what Obama said about himself and his political face that he tried to put on until he got what he wanted.

You know. Marxism.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 16, 2021 11:59 AM (jaQXh)

225 "Build Back Barren".

Posted by: another anon at October 16, 2021 11:59 AM (aYL5N)

226 If the Left wants to remove all other Leftists from sight and memory have at it, but they are doing it to wipe out their own past leaders.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 11:59 AM (2JoB8)

227 Boeing union has requested a meeting with management to negotiate the vaxx mandate rules.

Their position is that the last contract did not require workers to get any kind of vaccination and that the company is therefore in breach of contract.

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2021 12:00 PM (DJFLF)

228 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:54 AM (HN0nw)

Maybe a Guy Fawkes day, but for Wilson?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:56 AM (ynpvh)

Once national divorce happens, I'm all for moving to the "good" part, and we can set up all sorts of rogues' holidays. That'll be kinda fun, arguing about who is worse, John Wayne Gacy or Louis B. Mayer.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:00 PM (HN0nw)

229 226 If the Left wants to remove all other Leftists from sight and memory have at it, but they are doing it to wipe out their own past leaders.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 11:59 AM (2JoB

Oceania has always been at war with East Asia.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:01 PM (ynpvh)

230 Since Utoob has taken down all videos of how to take horse paste, where can I find instructions on how much to take? We have the tubes and I want to put written instructions in with them.

**

This site's comments section has a LOT of good discussion on the matter:

https://tinyurl.com/xa5wkkh7

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 16, 2021 12:01 PM (jaQXh)

231 218, the funny thing is that the most successful submarine commander in history, Lothar Arnauld de la Periere, always obeyed the old prize rules.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos (meh, it's a living) at October 16, 2021 12:02 PM (3DZIZ)

232 228 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 11:54 AM (HN0nw)

Maybe a Guy Fawkes day, but for Wilson?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 11:56 AM (ynpvh)

Once national divorce happens, I'm all for moving to the "good" part, and we can set up all sorts of rogues' holidays. That'll be kinda fun, arguing about who is worse, John Wayne Gacy or Louis B. Mayer.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:00 PM (HN0nw)

It only takes one side to make a divorce a bitter war. The Left has NEVER been about giving up power, but about gaining it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:02 PM (ynpvh)

233 Boeing commercial has work? No time being put on planes around here.

Posted by: klaftern at October 16, 2021 12:02 PM (taPSh)

234
IIRC that was what Obama said about himself and his political face that he tried to put on until he got what he wanted.

Posted by: Moron Robbie


I believe you're right. Rush was the only one who talked about it and exposed it.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:02 PM (HFwZY)

235 Their position is that the last contract did not require workers to get any kind of vaccination and that the company is therefore in breach of contract.
Posted by: kallisto

Ah, but this is an "emergency". The magic word that negates all contract and all law.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 16, 2021 12:02 PM (OssQ4)

236 Sitting (lying abed) in the ICU. Had a heart attack yesterday.

A heartfelt prayer going up for you, IMG. Hang in there.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:03 PM (Xrfse)

237 And now is the time to get your COVID kit together if you intend to. Horse medicine (because doctors will lose their license for prescribing it in NC), vitamins, etc., and talk to your doctor about how it would be handled if you catch it.

Yet another anecdotal data point.

Relative in his eighties, heart attack and surgery last year, unvaxxed, got the Wuhan Death Miasma last week, did MASK+ and is back on track.

Son of that relative, fully vaxxed, got the Wuhan Death Miasma too (different source) and is trusting the mRNA not doing alternate interventions. Not doing as well to date.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 16, 2021 12:03 PM (+LCoQ)

238 Holy cow IMG. I came in late and just saw this.

Don't chase the nurses up and down the halls for at least 48 hours.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 16, 2021 12:04 PM (jaQXh)

239
Another we forgot about obama's disastrous and corrupt first term is how obama was never to blame for anything -- he was always the "outsider."

Also, about this time in 2009, we were told the "only problem" with obama is he is surrounded by incompetent people who can't execute his "vision."

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:04 PM (HFwZY)

240 234
IIRC that was what Obama said about himself and his political face that he tried to put on until he got what he wanted.

Posted by: Moron Robbie

I believe you're right. Rush was the only one who talked about it and exposed it.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:02 PM (HFwZY)

I miss Rush. His replacements have not been nearly as good.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:05 PM (ynpvh)

241 Ah, but this is an "emergency". The magic word that negates all contract and all law.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 16, 2021 12:02 PM (OssQ4)


we shall see. All hell is breaking loose on the line.

They're not allowed to strike but they can slow down or sick out.

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2021 12:05 PM (DJFLF)

242 Rush was right.

Yep.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:05 PM (Xrfse)

243 and is trusting the mRNA not doing alternate interventions.
**

This is the most mind-blowing thing about all of this to me.

Is there something wrong with both? Or maybe lots of vitamin D and C, too?

It's become a near religion.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 16, 2021 12:06 PM (jaQXh)

244 238 Holy cow IMG. I came in late and just saw this.

Don't chase the nurses up and down the halls for at least 48 hours.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 16, 2021 12:04 PM (jaQXh)

Be hard to do that, they way they insert stents into you. I believe via the artery in the leg, near the crotch?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

245 Horde sourced question;

is anybody aware of a case anywhere when an individual successfully sued a public entity (store, city council, school board, etc) for contracting COVID following voluntary attendance at that eentity? If so can you provide a link or at least a location so that I can look into it to evaluate the circumstances?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 16, 2021 12:06 PM (5Woea)

246 I miss Rush. His replacements have not been nearly as good.

Not even light years close.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:07 PM (Xrfse)

247 241 Ah, but this is an "emergency". The magic word that negates all contract and all law.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 16, 2021 12:02 PM (OssQ4)

we shall see. All hell is breaking loose on the line.

They're not allowed to strike but they can slow down or sick out.

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2021 12:05 PM (DJFLF)

"But we HAVE to put those against vacinating in camps! It's an EMERGENCY!"--what the Left pines for

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:07 PM (ynpvh)

248 They're not allowed to strike but they can slow down or sick out.

*

I love this part, too. "Boss, I can't taste my coffee. Want me to come in?"

They set themselves up perfectly for the sick-outs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 16, 2021 12:08 PM (jaQXh)

249 It's become a near religion.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 16, 2021 12:06 PM (jaQXh)


We even heard NY Guv call the jab a gift from Jesus and that NYers needed to become "Apostles" to spread the Good Jab News

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2021 12:08 PM (DJFLF)

250 Be hard to do that, they way they insert stents into you. I believe via the artery in the leg, near the crotch?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:06 PM (ynpvh)
--------------------

First choice now is the radial artery.

Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2021 12:09 PM (YqDXo)

251
Regressivism.

Man sent a manned rocket up to 350,000 feet when this car was brand new:

https://youtu.be/fAUSn3IzGRg

We Are Going Backwards In Every Single Way Imaginable.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:09 PM (HFwZY)

252 178 Afternoon, Horde. Sitting (lying abed) in the ICU. Had a heart attack yesterday. Echo cardiogram and cath procedure is next. Hopefully, I just need a stent or two.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 16, 2021 11:45 AM (tG6OF)

Oh my! Prayers up IMG!

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2021 12:09 PM (cF8AT)

253 As bad as Governor Badabing was, he's still better than that ghoul that took his place.

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2021 12:09 PM (DJFLF)

254 Mark Changizi
at_MarkChangizi

My friend:

"I gave in as well, and it was a mistake. The Pfizer vaccine gave me an autoimmune condition causing constant ringing in my ears, and painful lesions on my hands, elbows, and ankles. It has been a nightmare."

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 16, 2021 12:10 PM (Do5/p)

255 Wilson was kind of a twatwaffle. I remember my dad sometimes would say about someone "I don't trust that guy just by lookin' at him." Wilson has that vibe in that pic..

Did TR play spoiler and split the vote enough to usher in Wilsonian disaster? Seems to me 1913 brought central banking (for good or ill) and Direct Election of US Senators.

Oh, and Direct Income Tax (formerly declared unconstitutional, but then later, like Totally Constitutional You Guys, and then followed by a nice big Foreign War ... That is still reverberating today, and not in a good way.

Hm.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 16, 2021 12:10 PM (1hM5m)

256 Oh wow, an assistant Seargent-at-Arms for the US House of Representatives has been arrested by Fairfax County VA deputies for child pron.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2021 12:10 PM (OrhLF)

257 Tom Wilson > Puddinhead Wilson > Woodrow Wilson

Edith Bunker > Edith Wilson

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 16, 2021 12:11 PM (flINI)

258 Wilson was a liar, a cheat, a fraud and a raycist.

In other words, a democrat.

Every federal building should be named after him, to warn people to stay away.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 16, 2021 12:11 PM (R/m4+)

259 We even heard NY Guv call the jab a gift from Jesus and that NYers needed to become "Apostles" to spread the Good Jab News

Faith in a Syringe.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:12 PM (Xrfse)

260 250 Be hard to do that, they way they insert stents into you. I believe via the artery in the leg, near the crotch?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:06 PM (ynpvh)
--------------------

First choice now is the radial artery.

Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2021 12:09 PM (YqDXo)

Probably the same way I can confidently say that colonoscopy prep and cystoscopies suck.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

261 Boeing HR sent out a memo that everyone at the plant should be on the lookout for "odd" behavior...

IOW implementing a Snitch policy.

That's not going over too well with the union brothers.

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2021 12:13 PM (DJFLF)

262 The disaster wrought by our Mad Queen Nancy continues. I'd argue that she's had a bigger adverse role than Obama, and certainly Biden who's clearly only a stooge.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 16, 2021 12:14 PM (ZHVt1)

263 255 Oh, and Direct Income Tax (formerly declared unconstitutional, but then later, like Totally Constitutional You Guys, and then followed by a nice big Foreign War ... That is still reverberating today, and not in a good way.
Hm.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 16, 2021 12:10 PM (1hM5m)

There was an Amendment for that...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:15 PM (ynpvh)

264
Someone should revisit all those old WWII posters warning about spies and nazis and make a post.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:15 PM (HFwZY)

265 Since Utoob has taken down all videos of how to take horse paste, where can I find instructions on how much to take? We have the tubes and I want to put written instructions in with them.

barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/

Posted by: Been Lurking at October 16, 2021 12:15 PM (xopIz)

266
Glad you're alive, Iron Mike.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:15 PM (HFwZY)

267 To call Bidet a stooge is an insult to Shemp.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2021 12:15 PM (OrhLF)

268 258 Wilson was a liar, a cheat, a fraud and a raycist.

In other words, a democrat.

Every federal building should be named after him, to warn people to stay away.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 16, 2021 12:11 PM (R/m4+)

LOL, the HHS could be housed in the Pol Pot building...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:15 PM (ynpvh)

269 We do need government .. common defense is mostly a foreign thing, but we also need government to stop bad people domestically. That also applies to bad people in "free markets".

But we don't need government to work on making people good (by forcing Wokeness, especially). But "struggle sessions" are now top down, including the AG attack on parents.

Freedom of religion, freedom of association ... back to the fundamentals. Forced diversity allows no real diversity of politics, as we see in academia, MSM, DeepState. BigGov is on the offensive against the people's Liberty.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 16, 2021 12:16 PM (Cus5s)

270 As bad as Governor Badabing was, he's still better than that ghoul that took his place.
Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2021 12:09 PM (DJFLF)

That should have been known from the outset. Cummo was the darling of the left, until he wasn't. The killing of nursing home residents wasn't a problem for them.

Whatever it was he DID do, and it was probably just about being in the way of the farther left, we know it wasn't him being handsy with staffers and others. That was just the means of getting rid of him.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:17 PM (HN0nw)

271 259 We even heard NY Guv call the jab a gift from Jesus and that NYers needed to become "Apostles" to spread the Good Jab News

Faith in a Syringe.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:12 PM (Xrfse)

They do make a cross-like shape...March on COVID soldiers, marching as to war, with the Cross of Fauci, vaxing at every door...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:17 PM (ynpvh)

272 Wasn't there some left-wing setup somewhere where they had a 600,000 flags or something which were supposed to represent all the "COVID deaths"?

Something tells me this will not be passed around social media by the left. Even though they care "about the children".

https://bit.ly/3lMmxl2

Sadly, this likely *would* be all over the news if President Trump had somehow won the 2020 election. The Left's strategy would have stayed anti-COVID-"vaccine" and they would have been highlighting every single adverse reaction and death and blamed it on Trump and Operation Warp Speed.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 16, 2021 12:17 PM (Do5/p)

273 we also need government to stop bad people domestically

Depends on the interpretation of "bad people".

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:17 PM (Xrfse)

274
I'm at the point where I'm willing to give Anarchism a chance.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:18 PM (HFwZY)

275 273 we also need government to stop bad people domestically

Depends on the interpretation of "bad people".

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:17 PM (Xrfse)

Ay-Yup. Gov't good, freedom bad.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:19 PM (ynpvh)

276
It has become a choice between Totalitarian Fascism and Anarchism.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:19 PM (HFwZY)

277 274
I'm at the point where I'm willing to give Anarchism a chance.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:18 PM (HFwZY)

The end result? Groups coalesce, we end up with Mad Max USA.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:19 PM (ynpvh)

278 March on COVID soldiers, marching as to war, with the Cross of Fauci, vaxing at every door...

I'd laugh but I'm out of guffaws. Same with shocked faces.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:19 PM (Xrfse)

279 276
It has become a choice between Totalitarian Fascism and Anarchism.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:19 PM (HFwZY)

I would add a few other choices in there, but out of deference to Ace, I won't.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:20 PM (ynpvh)

280 Wilson was in the beginning of the Socialist movement, always thought he was a disaster until Barky now Sundowner.
Posted by: Skip


I think Wilson still ranks the worst. He knew what he was doing and truly wanted to remake the US into a fascist hellhole. Barky and Uncle Touchy don't know what the fuck they are doing and don't care.

Uncle Touchy isn't in charge of his breakfast, ffs.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 16, 2021 12:20 PM (1t5dY)

281 " and it was probably just about being in the way of the farther left,"

Cuomo was taken down by the new Soros-funded NYAG. DeBlasio will try to replace Cuomo, to keep the money train going. He can win. Depends on who's D opposition

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 16, 2021 12:21 PM (ZHVt1)

282 Oh wow, an assistant Seargent-at-Arms for the US House of Representatives has been arrested by Fairfax County VA deputies for child pron.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2021 12:10 PM (OrhLF)

Oh my gosh! It's his own damn fault for questioning the vaxx on social media.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:22 PM (HN0nw)

283 Gardening NOOD.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

284 Bernhardt only gives instructions for the liquid horse wormer.

Posted by: Megthered at October 16, 2021 12:22 PM (xPfNx)

285
Speaking of which, time to blow some leaves.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:22 PM (HFwZY)

286 Saw concern for Iron Mike but until now had no idea what was going on.
That is scary

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 12:22 PM (2JoB8)

287 Prayers up for a full and speedy recovery, IMG.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 16, 2021 12:23 PM (pTHOC)

288 Wish I could be more positive in my insignificant comments here. Just not feelin' it...at all.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:23 PM (Xrfse)

289 we also need government to stop bad people domestically
----------------
Depends on the interpretation of "bad people".
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:17 PM (Xrfse)

If I've been following the nooz media and politicians in WashDC, I'm pretty sure I'm a bad people.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:23 PM (HN0nw)

290 Okay. For the horse paste, there is dial on the plunger. Set it to your weight. A syringe for a 1250 lb horse does five doses for a 250 lb person.

Posted by: Been Lurking at October 16, 2021 12:25 PM (xopIz)

291 289 we also need government to stop bad people domestically
----------------
Depends on the interpretation of "bad people".
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:17 PM (Xrfse)
If I've been following the nooz media and politicians in WashDC, I'm pretty sure I'm a bad people.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:23 PM (HN0nw)
List of what makes you a bad person.
1) White
2) Christian
3) Straight
4) Gun Owner
5)....

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:25 PM (ynpvh)

292 "Just look on the bright side of life and whistle."
- guy nailed to a cross.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2021 12:26 PM (OrhLF)

293
If you can't get the horsey meds, stock up on quality forms of Vitamins C and D/K2 and Zinc. Clean hands and surfaces with alcohol-based sanitizer.

Get good vitamins, not the crap they sell at supermarkets. Watch youtube for info.

Eat good food. Stay healthy as possible.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:26 PM (HFwZY)

294 It has become a choice between Totalitarian Fascism and Anarchism.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:19 PM (HFwZY)

Most of the anarchists are idiots, and haven't a clue how to make a better society... but that doesn't mean they're wrong in their diagnosis of what's wrong with THIS one.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:26 PM (HN0nw)

295 294 It has become a choice between Totalitarian Fascism and Anarchism.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:19 PM (HFwZY)

Most of the anarchists are idiots, and haven't a clue how to make a better society... but that doesn't mean they're wrong in their diagnosis of what's wrong with THIS one.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:26 PM (HN0nw)

Diagnosis and treatment are two completely different things, as you point out.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

296
Yeah, "anarchists" wouldn't last one week in Anarchy.
That's what I'm counting on.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:27 PM (HFwZY)

297 Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:23 PM (HN0nw)
List of what makes you a bad person.
1) White
2) Christian
3) Straight
4) Gun Owner
5)....
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:25 PM (ynpvh)

5. Question the results of the 2020 "election," obviously.
6. Believing medical intervention including the "miracle drugs" of horse dewormer are a benefit to those who have the coof. Again, obviously.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:28 PM (HN0nw)

298
Alright, time to kamala harris some leafs...

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:28 PM (HFwZY)

299 New Sanders statement pins blame on the media for Americans' lack of awareness of what's in the BBB plan, says press has done an "exceptionally poor job" covering the bill and that there has been "very limited coverage as to what the provisions of the bill are"

What? The media doesn't explain government proposals in a truthful way so that the average citizen is easily made aware of how they could affect them? News Team 13 isn't really "on your side"?

Posted by: Azjaeger at October 16, 2021 12:28 PM (3/XaG)

300 There was an Amendment for that...

Was that the one jammed through on Christmas Eve under really sketchy circumstances? Tough to keep all the more sordid examples of gubbmintal jiggery-pokery straight.

In any event, the federal government used to obtain most of the needed revenue through Tariffs. You know, sort like how it should be. Protectionism? You bet. What other purpose does the federal government serve, but to "protect the various states from invasion" etc.

Crazy talk, I know.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 16, 2021 12:29 PM (1hM5m)

301 @bennyjohnson

I mean -- it's perfect

https://tinyurl.com/yzp28l35

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2021 12:30 PM (cF8AT)

302 299 New Sanders statement pins blame on the media for Americans' lack of awareness of what's in the BBB plan, says press has done an "exceptionally poor job" covering the bill and that there has been "very limited coverage as to what the provisions of the bill are"

What? The media doesn't explain government proposals in a truthful way so that the average citizen is easily made aware of how they could affect them? News Team 13 isn't really "on your side"?

Posted by: Azjaeger at October 16, 2021 12:28 PM (3/XaG)

NOBODY can read an entire bill, including all the references to other bills with changes, in the small amount of time from inception to vote. NOBODY. Would you sign a contract that's thousands of pages without having looked at it? Congress would and has and continues to. It's all part of the game.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

303 Alright, time to kamala harris some leafs...
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:28 PM (HFwZY)

Ewwwww!

I know what you mean, but I'm getting the dry heaves thinking of her licking snizz off the leaves.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:31 PM (HN0nw)

304 300 There was an Amendment for that...

Was that the one jammed through on Christmas Eve under really sketchy circumstances? Tough to keep all the more sordid examples of gubbmintal jiggery-pokery straight.

In any event, the federal government used to obtain most of the needed revenue through Tariffs. You know, sort like how it should be. Protectionism? You bet. What other purpose does the federal government serve, but to "protect the various states from invasion" etc.

Crazy talk, I know.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 16, 2021 12:29 PM (1hM5m)

Apparently growing menancingly like an aggressive cancer, killing it's host.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:32 PM (ynpvh)

305 Crazy talk, I know.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 16, 2021 12:29 PM (1hM5m)



Obviously some kinda racist

Posted by: weirdflunky at October 16, 2021 12:33 PM (cknjq)

306 285
Speaking of which, time to blow some leaves.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:22 PM (HFwZY)

Phrasing!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at October 16, 2021 12:33 PM (BdbhX)

307
Oh, and I was about to say we are way overdue for fake astroligist or physicist neil degrass tyson to say something really fucking stupid, but he beat me to it.

Twitter "expert" on all things demi lovato, whoeverthefuck she is, said it's "offensive" to non-earthlings "aliens" because "alien" is an offensive term.

If that wasn't stupid enough, Fake "expert" on aliens and stars, neil degrass tyson, responds to demi lovato by saying "alien" isn't offensive because (quote) "aliens have no feelings."

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:34 PM (HFwZY)

308 I'm pretty sure I'm a bad people.

As are any of us who still cling precariously in the pursuit of discerning what is right and what is wrong. We have garnered a glimpse of what is at hand. We find it abhorrent, and that marks us as apostates.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 16, 2021 12:34 PM (Xrfse)

309 Protectionism? You bet. What other purpose does the federal government serve, but to "protect the various states from invasion" etc.

Crazy talk, I know.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 16, 2021 12:29 PM (1hM5m)

Why, it's almost as if the Free Marketeers, the Reason and National Review simps use words like "protectionism" to convince you you're evil if you don't let the fatcats enrich themselves on cheap, China goods.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:35 PM (HN0nw)

310 285 Speaking of which, time to blow some leaves.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:22 PM (HFwZY)

298 Alright, time to kamala harris some leafs...
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 16, 2021 12:28 PM (HFwZY)


LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:35 PM (ynpvh)

311 Need bad men to keep badder ones away from toilet doors.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 12:36 PM (IMmgC)

312 It's my understanding "You don't get to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater" was a SCOTUS members answer to World War I military draft protesters.

Think about that for a while.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 16, 2021 12:36 PM (1hM5m)

313 312 It's my understanding "You don't get to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater" was a SCOTUS members answer to World War I military draft protesters.

Think about that for a while.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 16, 2021 12:36 PM (1hM5m)

Dred Scott was property.

Japanese Citizens who did nothing wrong could be put into interment camps

But SCOTUS is NEVER wrong, amiright?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:37 PM (ynpvh)

314 NOBODY can read an entire bill, including all the references to other bills with changes, in the small amount of time from inception to vote. NOBODY. Would you sign a contract that's thousands of pages without having looked at it? Congress would and has and continues to. It's all part of the game.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

Why, it's almost as if these things are written so people CAN'T know exactly what's in them.

Almost*


*Dammit, I have to reuse the same schtick on the same thread.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:38 PM (HN0nw)

315 314 NOBODY can read an entire bill, including all the references to other bills with changes, in the small amount of time from inception to vote. NOBODY. Would you sign a contract that's thousands of pages without having looked at it? Congress would and has and continues to. It's all part of the game.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

Why, it's almost as if these things are written so people CAN'T know exactly what's in them.
Almost*
*Dammit, I have to reuse the same schtick on the same thread.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2021 12:38 PM (HN0nw)

It would be one thing if the bill were straightforward, but they're not. Often there would be obscure parts where "remove 'may' and make it 'shall' in such-and-such federal law, section blah blah blah." Unitelligible.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

316 In USSR they have one designated person who yells Fire in each Theater.

So that argument doesn't hold bones there unless you want jellyfish and peanutbutter sandwiches.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 12:42 PM (IMmgC)

317 316 In USSR they have one designated person who yells Fire in each Theater.

So that argument doesn't hold bones there unless you want jellyfish and peanutbutter sandwiches.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 12:42 PM (IMmgC)

In Russia, you don't yell fire in crowded theatre, crowded theater yells fire to you.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

318 312 It's my understanding "You don't get to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater" was a SCOTUS members answer to World War I military draft protesters.

Think about that for a while.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 16, 2021 12:36 PM (1hM5m)

And the entire premise of that statement is wrong at its very base. There is a perfectly appropriate time to yell Fire in a crowded theatre... you know, WHEN ITS ON FIRE?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2021 12:46 PM (oHd/0)

319 318 312 It's my understanding "You don't get to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater" was a SCOTUS members answer to World War I military draft protesters.

Think about that for a while.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 16, 2021 12:36 PM (1hM5m)

And the entire premise of that statement is wrong at its very base. There is a perfectly appropriate time to yell Fire in a crowded theatre... you know, WHEN ITS ON FIRE?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2021 12:46 PM (oHd/0)

Reminds me of the logic in the Miller case. They Supremes decided that a saw-off shotgun had not military use, even though the military at the time was using them. Basically, it was a tax.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

320 Comics
Instead Of Kryptonite, New LGBTQ+ Superman Will Be Crippled By Anyone Using Wrong Pronouns
October 16th, 2021 80

From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 12:51 PM (d9FiS)

321 320 Comics
Instead Of Kryptonite, New LGBTQ+ Superman Will Be Crippled By Anyone Using Wrong Pronouns
October 16th, 2021 80

From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 12:51 PM (d9FiS)

Lex Luthor: "Superman, you misgendered me"
Superman: "OMG, I'm helpless! How did Luthor know!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:53 PM (ynpvh)

322 Funny.

We wanted a 2001 type future...instead we got Philip K Dick.

Don't get me wrong...i like his books but everyday. Day after day. Robotic jackhammers flying Amazon for me

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 12:53 PM (IMmgC)

323 And the entire premise of that statement is wrong at its very base. There is a perfectly appropriate time to yell Fire in a crowded theatre... you know, WHEN ITS ON FIRE?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2021 12:46 PM (oHd/0)

I think the statement included theater not on fire.

'Cannot falsely yell fire in a theater'

Posted by: Just a side note at October 16, 2021 12:53 PM (2DOZq)

324 Thank you all for the info on Ivermectin.
We have been amazingly healthy during the scamdemic but I have put together a covid kit in case we get sick and are in the middle of nowhere or SHTF.

Posted by: Megthered at October 16, 2021 12:53 PM (wEvS2)

325 322 Funny.

We wanted a 2001 type future...instead we got Philip K Dick.

Don't get me wrong...i like his books but everyday. Day after day. Robotic jackhammers flying Amazon for me

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 12:53 PM (IMmgC)

The future, You're a dick!--Spicoli

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

326 Citizen 1: "Will you try to change things, with the power that you have? The power of a million new ideas?".

Citizen 2: "What is this power you speak of and the need for things to change? I always thought that everything was fine!".

Posted by: Dialogue Part 1 at October 16, 2021 12:55 PM (Xrfse)

327 Just getting to Week in Pictures, This is what happens when you order a President through mail is too funny

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 12:56 PM (2JoB8)

328 History has proven that you can yell "Fire!" in a circular firing squad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 12:56 PM (d9FiS)

329 Princeton's problem with Woodrow Wilson isn't that he was racist, but that he wasn't the right kind of racist, like the kind Princeton is today.

Posted by: Socratease at October 16, 2021 12:57 PM (oqnjT)

330 Reminds me...13 is interesting movie. Play circular Russian roulette.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 01:00 PM (IMmgC)

331 328 History has proven that you can yell "Fire!" in a circular firing squad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 16, 2021 12:56 PM (d9FiS)

I've yelled fire many times at events while eating lunch--Che Guevara

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 01:00 PM (ynpvh)

332 330 Reminds me...13 is interesting movie. Play circular Russian roulette.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 01:00 PM (IMmgC)

Polish roulette uses a pistol instead of a revolver.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 01:01 PM (ynpvh)

333 Not liking horror movies much this year, not sure why.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 01:03 PM (2JoB8)

334 333 Not liking horror movies much this year, not sure why.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 01:03 PM (2JoB

Probably because what's going on right now is horror enough.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

335 Would you sign a contract that's thousands of pages without having looked at it? Congress would and has and continues to. It's all part of the game.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 12:31 PM

Because they are not signing a contract where they are going to be spending their own money, so what do they care? Elected representatives have zero skin in the game (and, in fact, actually *make* money from all the bills they support). Until that changes...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 16, 2021 01:11 PM (Do5/p)

336 JUST IN - Delta Air Lines ditches "divisive" #COVID19 vaccine mandate, CEO Ed Bastian announces (Fox)
Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2021 11:35 AM (cF8AT)

aren't they considered "Federal Contractors " ???

Posted by: runner at October 16, 2021 01:12 PM (V13WU)

337 _ "No one worried about the weaponization of government. So, we went right from the nefarious legacy of John Brennan (who lied under oath to Congress twice),

James Clapper (who lied under oath to Congress once), James Comey (who leaked confidential presidential memos), Andrew McCabe (who gave false testimony to federal investigators),

Lisa Page (who was fired from the special counsel's legal team for various unprofessional conduct),

Peter Strzok (about whom there is not enough space to detail his transgressions), and the now convicted felon Kevin Clinesmith onto the next round of impeachments.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2021 01:13 PM (HMNhg)

338 Congress has their payroll overlords making the laws, they just pass them, they don't need to read them.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 01:14 PM (2JoB8)

339 We will have to engineer a McDonald's style hanging system. So many terrible big law breakers that need to meet their end.

Big Mack with special sauce.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 16, 2021 01:22 PM (IMmgC)

340 So what government hand outs will be eliminated? What agencies will be eliminated? How will the government shrink? When does the balanced budget come into effect? When do our politicians agree that the laws and regulations they impose on the serfs apply to them as well?

If you believe this country will have a smaller government or even slow its growth, I have a pig in a poke just for you.

Posted by: Harry at October 16, 2021 01:25 PM (EcD5Y)

341 Just read at PJ media in Chicago Lightfoot is about to get heavy stomped by the police she was trying to fire any not had the Fake Vax.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 01:27 PM (2JoB8)

342 336 JUST IN - Delta Air Lines ditches "divisive"

#COVID19 vaccine mandate, CEO Ed Bastian announces (Fox) Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2021 11:35 AM (cF8AT)
-------------------

Friday, DeSantis said, 'Just think of Biden', he says, "Don't make the vaccines divisive."
'Don't make the vaccines divisive? You are trying to take people's jobs away over this issue'

'You are trying to plunge people into destitution. You are taking away their livelihoods - no one else is doing that. You are the one that's being divisive about this'

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2021 01:28 PM (HMNhg)

343 Gallup: Americans Revert to Favoring Reduced Government Role

Seems kinda late for that, IMHO.

========

My theory is that this is just Republicans, out of power, suddenly deciding that less government is good. We don't see Democrats suddenly clamoring for less activist government when out of power because they're more ideologically aligned and dedicated to governmental power.

Republicans, however, are more temperamental when it comes to the principles of limited government. It's a great idea when out of power, but when in power...you know...there are social ills that need to be addressed.

This isn't really a judgment call, just an observation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 16, 2021 01:33 PM (LvTSG)

344 340 If you believe this country will have a smaller government or even slow its growth, I have a pig in a poke just for you.

Posted by: Harry at October 16, 2021 01:25 PM (EcD5Y)

Tastes like chicken from the Chinese restaurant.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2021 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

345 Braenyard is their any reason any of those won't get McCabed? Full government payment of defense, pensions in full?

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 01:35 PM (2JoB8)

346 Are we quitting early today?

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 01:48 PM (2JoB8)

347 They've got a year to payoff the crooks.

Republicans win the House and Senate in '22. and even if we are stuck with McConnell and McCarthy.
they have about zero chance of a payoff.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2021 01:52 PM (HMNhg)

348 PET NOOD is up, usually the end of this thread

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2021 02:01 PM (2JoB8)

349 Iron mike golf....good luck, been there did that. Hopefully the damage is limited, and you can return to a normal life. Best wishes and regards, Jasonj, Tucson

Posted by: Jasonj at October 16, 2021 02:25 PM (4Tpar)

350 That post-progressive web site was, despite its claims, nothing more than a weak centrism with a pseudo-intellectualism pasted on top.

Posted by: Bram Stoker's Chocula at October 16, 2021 04:48 PM (heVl4)

351 "If anyone's achievements are large enough that they should be honored despite their racism, Wilson seems like an excellent candidate."

No, he should not.

Posted by: sidney at October 18, 2021 04:55 AM (7/kmB)

352 My grandson told me about his electric car tags being $200.00 a year.
I said why?
A. Government wants us to buy and drive electric cars, to stop using gasoline.
How ever not using gasoline reduces the revenue from the taxes on using gasoline.
SO, in order to preserve the taxes garnered on using gasoline they add the lost revenue of using an electric car on your tag.
Therefore you the driver do not gain anything but feel good.
B. Government makes it just as expensive and gives us a reason to NOT drive electric cars.

The problem here is..................GOVERNMENT.
So big one part doesn't know what the other part is doing and sabotaging itself and it's policies.

Posted by: obsidian at October 18, 2021 02:58 PM (zBrxt)

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