Victor Davis Hanson Tells Tucker Carlson Why He Left the National Review (and Was Happy to Leave)

National Review continues running Hanson's syndicated column. Many believe they do this cynically, to suggest that Victor Davis Hanson is still with National Review, when in fact he left them, and for ideological reasons, not financial ones.

The syndicated column, anyone can run that, if they pay the subscription for it.

But he's not with them any more. He left that organization.

Video at RCP; excerpts from their transcription below.

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON:
As far as your other question, yeah, I lost all those friends.

TUCKER CARLSON: Really?

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: I left the National Review this year after 20 years and I think they were happy to see me leave too.

TUCKER CARLSON: Why did you leave National Review?

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: Because there were certain issues that would pop up occasionally, and I could predict what the answer was going to be. The Covington kids. I just sensed that before we knew anything, people would come and condemn them. Or the Access Hollywood tape--

TUCKER CARLSON: People at National Review condemned the Covington kids?

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: I think there were certain people in the Republican movement, or establishment, who felt it is their duty to internally police their own, and that's kind of a virtue signal to the left.

We are just part of your class, we share the same values as you do, and we keep our crazies. And they are not empirical.

You saw it on January 6. We all condemn that baffoonish riot. But within two weeks, I said to myself Ashli Babbitt was shot unarmed and we don't know anything about the policeman, we don't know anything about the report. When a policeman shoots somebody unarmed, there are pictures everywhere.

TUCKER CARLSON: No warning, by the way.

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: They're having Officer Sicknik lie in state, but I want to know where is the evidence is that he was killed? He wasn't killed, he died of a stroke --

TUCKER CARLSON: National Review wasn't on that?

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: No. No. An "armed insurrection." There were no weapons found on the people they arrested.

They are not even being charged and tried with dispatch. There are sitting in purgatory.

So these issues, I would get angry about, and I would try to convey that anger, but I think ... a lot of them felt it was their duty as Republican establishmentarians to tell the world they didn't approve of Donald Trump's tweets or his crudity.

My message was always: But, it's good for the middle class.

He's kind of like a Shane or Magnificent Seven or High Noon, he's a gunslinger we hired and we are the townspeople that are impotent and he came in with certain skills. And he started to have success and now we have the luxury of saying we don't like the fact that he has a six-gun. But he has to ride off into the sunset.

But they didn't -- there were other issues I think they felt were more important, so I think it was a good parting for both of us.

TUCKER CARLSON: What issues did they think were important?

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: I don't know, I think there's an image that a lot of Republicans have, both in politics and they sort of represent a sober and judicious way of looking at the world, and we are the adults in the room.

And it's more about a culture than it is an ideology.

The original Republican conservative movement, I thought, was going to go back and look at the Constitution, when Jefferson said it won't work if you pile up everybody in the cities because they will be subject to mass hysteria. Or de Tocqueville, and you look at certain ideas, I thought that's what we were.

I thought they would be champions of the middle class, but I don't think they were. I don't think they wanted to be.

Dave Reaboi had an observation: National Review was founded not to persuade the general citizenry, but to persuade a specific microscopic subset of it: New York City based liberal intellectuals and the monied class generally.

And, I would add, as New York City based liberal intellectuals and the monied class moved further and further left -- particularly on issues of culture, including immigration -- National Review moved left to keep within a stone's throw of them. After all, you cannot hope to persuade anyone you are diametrically opposed to on every issue.


When the New York City Liberal Intellectuals and the monied class they are embedded with (and sometimes literally in bed with) decided, for example, that deporting illegal aliens and building a border wall was "racist," National Review changed its views to align with this New York City Liberal Intellectual consensus.

National Review now finds itself as the proponent of a brand of watered-down, socially-liberal "conservatism" that is officially Safe for New York City Liberal Intellectuals (TM).

This, quite obviously, is not conservatism at all. And thus, their greatly reduced readership and vanishing influence with actual conservatives.

But I wish them all good luck in their future careers.

Posted by: Ace at 03:56 PM




Comments

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1 Really like VDH.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 05, 2021 02:56 PM (kTF2Z)

2 I'll call em.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 05, 2021 02:56 PM (kTF2Z)

3 Because he's smarter than the average joe.

Posted by: Infidel at October 05, 2021 02:56 PM (iorxD)

4 VDH is a smart fuck, and it was a smart move.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 05, 2021 02:56 PM (wAnMi)

5 Otters called.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 05, 2021 02:56 PM (kTF2Z)

6 Beisbol Cvck admits that it's easier for him to tone police your ass than actually battle leftists:

>It's important to fight illiberalism on the Right. It's entirely futile to try fighting it on the Left.

https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/
1445072980413911044

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at October 05, 2021 02:58 PM (cSs/W)

7 Yeah but National Review featured the G-File during the Lewinsky scandal, with Jonah Goldberg talking to his couch. That helped.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 05, 2021 02:59 PM (GD2xa)

8 >>But I wish them all good luck in their future careers.

Local whorehouse closed down, huh?

Posted by: Roy at October 05, 2021 02:59 PM (Ti+Tv)

9 VDH > All of Cuckservile Media.

Posted by: Joe Mama at October 05, 2021 02:59 PM (WmGrA)

10 This, quite obviously, is not conservatism at all. And thus, their greatly reduced readership and vanishing influence with actual conservatives.

But I wish them all good luck in their future careers.

Posted by: Ace at 03:56 PM

This too is the story of the Republican Party, minus the wishing them luck.

Posted by: Bete at October 05, 2021 02:59 PM (F9322)

11 >>>6 Beisbol Cvck admits that it's easier for him to tone police your ass than actually battle leftists:


I have that in quick hits. I was going to add it here, but i kept it in quick hits because it gives me a reason to use the Cruise Ship emojis.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2021 02:59 PM (0G13K)

12 I got a lot of respect for VDH's intellect.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 05, 2021 03:00 PM (XvPQV)

13 NR has done less for the conservative movement in the last 20 years then Little Green Footballs did.

And Chuckles Johnson of LGF is a leftwing asshat.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:00 PM (ESjRY)

14 National Review now finds itself as the proponent of a brand of watered-down, socially-liberal "conservatism" that is officially Safe for New York City Liberal Intellectuals (TM).


With a vaguely Catholic wash.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 05, 2021 03:00 PM (i9ZF7)

15 ace, you are a gem.

Posted by: Infidel at October 05, 2021 03:00 PM (iorxD)

16 >>>With a vaguely Catholic wash.


very little of that in the past ten years.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2021 03:00 PM (0G13K)

17 Willowed:
Heeeeeeeeeeere we go!

Aussie "leaders" in Victoria have now directed people in home quarantine they have to use that app that randomly instructs you to take a geo-located selfie within five minutes.

https://bit.ly/3DhW84j

We heard about the app before, now they're demanding Aussies use it.
Posted by: bonhomme


Here's a picture of my balloon knot.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:00 PM (OCTRt)

18 I walked passed VDH during a visit to Stanford a few years ago and told him I loved his work. We chatted for a bit and he gave me the name of a killer lunch place out in the central valley on the way to Yosemite.

Good guy.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 05, 2021 03:01 PM (eZshs)

19 People at NR condemn the Covington kids?
And how, they couldn't wait to seize on the left wing narrative

Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:02 PM (CYnTg)

20 >I have that in quick hits. I was going to add it here, but i kept it in quick hits because it gives me a reason to use the Cruise Ship emojis.
Posted by: ace at October 05, 2021 02:59 PM (0G13K)

Carry on, good sir. Ahoy!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at October 05, 2021 03:02 PM (cSs/W)

21 Aussie "leaders" in Victoria have now directed people in home quarantine they have to use that app that randomly instructs you to take a geo-located selfie within five minutes.

So, you know, this might be a bit too much.

Posted by: Lavrentiy Beria at October 05, 2021 03:02 PM (ESjRY)

22 VDH is still a favorite of mine, can't agree with everything but he still has good opinions. See his latest case why Miley should be tried for treason

Posted by: Skip's Phone at October 05, 2021 03:02 PM (fHCeQ)

23 Guess I'm an old foof. I have no apps on my phone.

Posted by: Infidel at October 05, 2021 03:02 PM (iorxD)

24 Here's a picture of my balloon knot.

How can we be sure its yours?

Posted by: Some Aussie Cop at October 05, 2021 03:02 PM (ESjRY)

25 > This, quite obviously, is not conservatism at all.

Conserving the air of felling you're better than everyone else.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:03 PM (YYlyE)

26 Its Rockefeller Republicans all over again. Same thing happened in the 60s and 70s until Reagan gave us a few good years.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at October 05, 2021 03:03 PM (P7Iz+)

27 And, I would add, as New York City based liberal intellectuals and the monied class moved further and further left -- particularly on issues of culture, including immigration -- National Review moved left to keep within a stone's throw of them. After all, you cannot hope to persuade anyone you are diametrically opposed to on every issue.
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Strikes me as a reasonable conclusion, but I am not sure about the motivation. I don't think the NR - now or then - wants to persuade anyone in the NY-based liberal/money class. I think they want to find that happy niche where they get to pretend (or maybe actually be) different from those guys, but not so different that they turn into pariahs and get disinvited from all the parties, functions, speaking tours, etc. They *like* being the token "conservatives" in that crowd, and that's what they pursue.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:03 PM (+IIqY)

28 Good for the middle class. That is they key right there. Last thing any DC insider wants is to share the wealth with Deplorables.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I Help Ya Help Ya Help Ya Variant at October 05, 2021 03:03 PM (28CWO)

29 And it's more about a culture than it is an ideology.

That right there is the money quote.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 05, 2021 03:03 PM (BFigT)

30 Have a smartphone was nice for a while but I think I could do without one again.

Posted by: f'd at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (Tnijr)

31 Here's a picture of my balloon knot.

How can we be sure its yours?
Posted by: Some Aussie Cop at October 05, 2021 03:02 PM (ESjRY)

My phone has balloon knot recognition technology. They are like fingerprints.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (Y5qcH)

32 People at NR condemn the Covington kids?
And how, they couldn't wait to seize on the left wing narrative
Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:02 PM (CYnTg)

Whatever happened to spittle flecked lunatic Nicholas Frankovich?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (cSyAR)

33 I think there's a place for the intellectuals in the Conservative movement. Knowledge, eloquence, both are useful. But that shouldn't translate to leadership. The National Review is a good example of controlled opposition and the Uniparty.

These are Oligarch lapdogs, neutered, panting, and pissing themselves when they get excited by their true masters.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (XvPQV)

34
National Review, which I started subscribing to in 1975, was at its core an anti-Communist magazine. When the Eastern Bloc dissolved in 1989-1990, it basically lost its purpose. Like Churchill, it had no great interest in domestic affairs though it nodded its head in the right direction every now and then.

It should have folded 30 years ago.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (/U27+)

35 4 VDH is a smart fuck, and it was a smart move.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 05, 2021 02:56 PM (wAnMi)

Smarter would be retiring, selling the farm, renting a U-haul and moving east.

Posted by: Roy at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (Ti+Tv)

36 Some day people will realize that NY intellectuals or whatever they call themselves have no idea what the rest of the country is up to, or thinks, or feels, and that the rest of the country really doesn't care about what the NY intellectuals think or feel or does. There couldn't be a wider gulf between two groups.

As much as I might like the museums or the library or the monuments in NYC, it isn't worth it to me to have to experience living on top of people and dealing with streets that smell of piss and people who hate me. Not interested, thanks.

I have the feeling that NY intellectuals have a mutual feeling about Alaska, so that's all well and good, I suppose.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (okGHj)

37 *looks at thousands of balloon knot pics*

Posted by: Aussie Police at October 05, 2021 03:05 PM (wAjWw)

38 Moldy "Hustler" Magazine With Semen Glued Pages Found In A Bum's Nest > National Review

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 05, 2021 03:05 PM (r8tC0)

39 Pretty much every view of the Left or the Never Trumpers is something that would be claimed to be absurd and beyond satire a mere 20 years ago.

Locking down the country while sending diseased Haitian illegals wherever they want to go? Oh come on that would never happen!

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:05 PM (ESjRY)

40 With a vaguely Catholic wash.

Popewash. TM.

Posted by: St Katherine J. Lopez, Lesbian Celibate, Order of the Untouched Labia at October 05, 2021 03:05 PM (QU5/8)

41 "But I wish them all good luck in their future careers."

"Jerkers" in a Bull Semen Factory?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 05, 2021 03:05 PM (VpIIl)

42 My phone has balloon knot recognition technology. They are like fingerprints.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (Y5qcH)

So how many assholes do you review in a day?

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 05, 2021 03:06 PM (okGHj)

43 I am sad to see it go down this path, especially since it looks like old-fashioned bribery from corporations like Google are a big part of it. I felt National Review played a part me going from Democrat to Conservative.

That being said, I could easily see WFB being "Never Trump" later in life. Him and his kind just seemed to ache to be accepted by the "cool kids" and thought if they could just fall on the right sword, it would someday pay off.

Posted by: Blago at October 05, 2021 03:06 PM (Mh8ci)

44 As much as I might like the museums or the library or the monuments in NYC, it isn't worth it to me to have to experience living on top of people and dealing with streets that smell of piss and people who hate me. Not interested, thanks.

Especially since I can do them virtually.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:06 PM (OCTRt)

45 "Jerkers" in a Bull Semen Factory?

Its a dessert condiment and a floor wax!

Posted by: Stephen Hayes at October 05, 2021 03:06 PM (ESjRY)

46 I would send a dick pic

Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:06 PM (CYnTg)

47 46th!

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at October 05, 2021 03:06 PM (LW36e)

48 41 "But I wish them all good luck in their future careers."

"Jerkers" in a Bull Semen Factory?
Posted by: Marcus T at October 05, 2021 03:05 PM (VpIIl)

After a month probation period, they give them a rubber glove.

Posted by: Roy at October 05, 2021 03:06 PM (Ti+Tv)

49 Damn... missed it by that much...

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at October 05, 2021 03:07 PM (LW36e)

50 NR likes to pretend the DOJ is about Justice, that the BLM/Antifa crowd are mostly peaceful organic social movements staffed by volunteers, that shooting baseball-playing Congressmen was a one-off, and nobody knows why the Vegas massacre happened. School Boards need protection from parent opinions. Citizens aren't allowed in the Capital, and nobody is a political prisoner in America. BigTech is our friend.



Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2021 03:07 PM (EM7sk)

51 So how many assholes do you review in a day?

Depends on if I accidentally go to the Yahoo home page or not.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:07 PM (ESjRY)

52 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 05, 2021 03:07 PM (arJlL)

53 Some day people will realize that NY intellectuals or whatever they call themselves have no idea what the rest of the country is up to, or thinks, or feels, and that the rest of the country really doesn't care about what the NY intellectuals think or feel or does. ...
Posted by: tcn in AK at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (okGHj)
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Intellectuals in general. There is a yawning chasm of mutual contempt between real people (regardless of class or ideology) and intellectuals.

And yes, I am anti-intellectual when that word is used as a noun. If you're "An Intellectual" - either by self-proclamation or common description - then I have no use for you. Take VDH as an example. He is an extremely intellectual person - well read, well studied, prodigious intellectual output - but he is not An Intellectual. He often goes out of his way to make that clear.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:07 PM (+IIqY)

54 So how many assholes do you review in a day?
Posted by: tcn in AK


Lessee, there were 200 at the courthouse. Another 50 at the DMV....

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:07 PM (OCTRt)

55 And Chuckles Johnson of LGF is a leftwing asshat.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:00 PM (ESjRY)

Further reminder that this godless douche popularized "paleosimians" after 9/11.

Anyone else would lose their job for far, far less.

Posted by: trev006 at October 05, 2021 03:07 PM (g56gv)

56 Dave Reaboi had an observation: National Review was founded not to persuade the general citizenry, but to persuade a specific microscopic subset of it: New York City based liberal intellectuals and the monied class generally.
________

Sure didn't show into the 80s.

The model doesn't fit the facts. As communism became more and more cool among liberals, they didn't budge. And their pre-Bush views on education were inherently objectionable to those liberals. (They are were I developed my "burn it down" attitude before 1970.)

It's more an expression of anger or frustration than an analysis of what happened.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 05, 2021 03:07 PM (7X3UV)

57 But I wish them all good luck in their future careers.


Well I wish those dung eaters an express elevator to hell, for my part.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:08 PM (o2MD2)

58 Speaking of cvcks and shifting left, guess what Pharisee French has to say about Merrick Garland's weaponization of the FBI to use against parents concerned about CRT and other public school nonsense:

https://tinyurl.com/3a2wdrft

Basically, he's okay with it as along as it doesn't attempt to "prosecute political speech". Sure, PF.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 05, 2021 03:08 PM (5aFbR)

59 When a policeman shoots somebody unarmed, there are pictures everywhere.
____________

Only if the person who got shot is black or hispanic or muslim or some other mythically "oppressed" person.

If it's just a white person, the media doesn't give a shit.

White people get shot and killed by cops in the U.S. in much greater numbers than blacks do, but you never hear about those shootings. But when a black person gets shot by a cop, it's 24/7 media coverage, usually hysterical coverage, about how this proves what a raaaaaacist country this is, and how blacks are under attack and being hunted down and shot like dogs, and all the rest of that bullshit.

Blacks bitterly complain about the disparity in media attention in "missing white girl" cases, yet they never complain about the disparate media attention in cop shooting cases.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 05, 2021 03:08 PM (k4dH2)

60 Jefferson said it will not work if you pile up everybody in the cities because they will be subject to mass hysteria.
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Ah ha!

Posted by: Braenyard at October 05, 2021 03:08 PM (Okeht)

61 I'm listening to National Reviews handiwork on Fox News right now...

This demented Meat Puppet is so far gone, the lies dribbling out of his mouth so grotesque, the vile poison he and his illegitimate junta are nauseating.

The chuckleheads at National Review need to meet some rough justice for their part in foisting this asshole upon the nation.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 05, 2021 03:08 PM (7gK4M)

62
"Jerkers" in a Bull Semen Factory?


Choke up and stroke, fellers, there's a whole half a shift's worth of work left to do!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 05, 2021 03:08 PM (pNxlR)

63 36

NYC is not that though. I lived there for a couple of years in my 20s and loved it. Would I want to raise kids there? Probably not. You need a ton of money to do that comfortably, like $3M townhome type money. Which is why other than welfare types and recent immigrants willing to live 8 to a room, NYC is for young singles and the absurdly rich.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I Help Ya Help Ya Help Ya Variant at October 05, 2021 03:08 PM (28CWO)

64 Long term, Buckley did more damage to the conservative movement than the Birchers.

Because he cemented the mindeset that a caste of "conservatives" had as their sacred duty to police the movement, keep it polite and respectable-- even at the cost of losing.
Over and over and over.

Posted by: Lrrr at October 05, 2021 03:08 PM (jIL4c)

65 I would send a dick pic
Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:06 PM (CYnTg)
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I keep the world's greatest dick pic in reserve in case I ever need it:
https://is.gd/p6ymJV

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:08 PM (+IIqY)

66 > And it's more about a culture than it is an ideology.

You know, that makes perfect sense and it aligns exactly with how I've seen the old guard Republicans act. They think of them selves as stately, venerable patricians first and seem to be married to the old arguments and old priorities. They are completely incapable of responding to their colleagues across the aisle acting like 1960s radicals rather than the old guard Democrats against which they solidified their little club.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:09 PM (YYlyE)

67 Oh I checked LGF for the first time in forever. He's linking John Oliver and their ilk and talking about Trump's penis.

One wonders why he has no audience anymore.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:09 PM (ESjRY)

68 Chucky Johnson. What an ass.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:09 PM (o2MD2)

69 Dentist appt today... Doc was talking about why are so many jobs available and businesses desperately trying to hire people. I said government is paying them to stay home. What you subsidise you get more of. He looked like he had never heard that phrase and said he thought I was likely right about that.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 05, 2021 03:10 PM (Vxu+H)

70 Conservatism is about being the adult in the room. The one who tells the teenager they can't have a booze-filled party. The one who risks alienating the kids by ultimately doing the right thing.

Liberalism is being weekend dad.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 05, 2021 03:10 PM (KbCG3)

71 In a way I do feel kind of sad that that Trump fellow sullied good practices like having principles, taking a moral stand, defending the nation, and all that.

But, since he did all that stuff we have to renounce it. That much is clear.

Posted by: Overheard at a Park Ave cocktail party at October 05, 2021 03:10 PM (dj58i)

72 Btw I'm tickled to death over the prospects of educators and administrators being turned into mulch by angry parents. Parents are about to realize that the case law has been settled for years about once they consent to their kids crossing the threshold of the door to the school, the kids are legally under the custody of the educators and administrators.
These educators and administrators have been brainwashed and enabled since day one of college that they know what is best for our kids. They openly despise the parents. They should be terrified for their lives.
Exciting "you get what you deserve" times ahead.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 05, 2021 03:10 PM (CCDfQ)

73 So these issues, I would get angry about, and I would try to convey that anger, but I think ... a lot of them felt it was their duty as Republican establishmentarians to tell the world they didn't approve of Donald Trump's tweets or his crudity.

==========

Couthness.

That's all it's ever been, an effect to disapprove of the man's style.

These aren't serious people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:10 PM (LvTSG)

74 TUCKER CARLSON: People at National Review condemned the Covington kids?

I think it was whatsisface Lowry, senior NRO editor who got in early with a full-on broadside against the Covington kids without waiting for any actual facts to appear. It's like he couldn't fall all over himself fast enough to virtue-signal his left wing buddies.

And to this day, that article is uncorrected and unretracted.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:11 PM (IN5Dl)

75 Standing athwart history yelling "right this way, boys!"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 05, 2021 03:11 PM (63Dwl)

76 Well, it got so that every piss-ant prairie punk who thought he could type a blog would ride into town to try out the Waco Con.

I must have killed more men than Cecil B. DeMille. It got pretty gritty. I started to hear the word "Trump" in my sleep.

Then one day, I was just walking down the street when I heard a voice behind me say, "Reach for it, mister!" I spun around... and there I was, face to face with a six-year grad student. Well, I just threw my iPad down and walked away.

Little bastard shot me in the ass. So I limped to the nearest club, crawled inside a Courvoisier bottle... and I've been there ever since.

Posted by: The Waco Con at October 05, 2021 03:11 PM (UHVv4)

77 I was banned at LGF and I should have gotten a T-shirt. Preferably one with one of his pathetic fence post photos on it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:11 PM (o2MD2)

78 14 National Review now finds itself as the proponent of a brand of watered-down, socially-liberal "conservatism" that is officially Safe for New York City Liberal Intellectuals (TM).

With a vaguely Catholic wash.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 05, 2021 03:00 PM (i9ZF7)

Someone who has a better memory of WFB than I needs to remind me about this; I don't remember WFB changing his views significantly to make himself more acceptable to the NYC crowd. I remember that he did apologize for his stance on the Civil Rights Bill, but not much else along those lines.

NR outside of WFB, however - including his son Christopher - is another story altogether.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 05, 2021 03:11 PM (eNJEy)

79 Dentist appt today... Doc was talking about why are so many jobs available and businesses desperately trying to hire people. I said government is paying them to stay home. What you subsidise you get more of. He looked like he had never heard that phrase and said he thought I was likely right about that.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 05, 2021 03:10 PM (Vxu+H)

Another Russell Brand.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at October 05, 2021 03:11 PM (HwtiA)

80 I like VDH

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:11 PM (YglAn)

81 Dentist appt today... Doc was talking about why are so many jobs available and businesses desperately trying to hire people. I said government is paying them to stay home. What you subsidise you get more of. He looked like he had never heard that phrase and said he thought I was likely right about that.
Posted by: Madamemayhem


Also, now isn't the best time to be firing people for not getting the jab.

Especially nurses.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:11 PM (OCTRt)

82 Texas is expecting a massive wave of illegals crossing the border this month.

I really REALLY wish that they would scoop them up and bus them to Washington DC and dump them there and in the suburbs surrounding DC.

Put that wet sticky turd in the pockets it belongs in.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (LW36e)

83

Oh I can see that bloated fop Jonah getting all screechy and such.

They pushed Derbyshire off when he got too close to the truth.

I always preferred Emmett Tyrell. Not sure whatever happened there.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (4WPW/)

84 is immigration considered a cultural/social issue to the monied left? I always thought it was useful for anyone rich (left or right) to have cheap labor, gain leverage against domestic workers, etc. Ie a fiscal issue. They don't like living with immigrants among them. It's not like the monied left's core cultural issues like homosexuality, abortion, feminism, where there's a personal connection.

Posted by: jason_farnon at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (25r9f)

85 Little Gangrenous Foosballz still exists?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (DrKir)

86 72

This is why the FBI has labeled all parents white supremacists.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I Help Ya Help Ya Help Ya Variant at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (28CWO)

87 I'm here.
Just got home so catching up on the day's news so don't know if this has been mentioned but the Green Beret who was arrested by the FBI on a trespassing charge, a trespassing charge, and a gain, a trespassing charge on Jan 6 has been DENIED bail.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (Y+l9t)

88 Is it true that William Buckley, Jr. coined the phrase "tut, tut"?

Posted by: Roy at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (Ti+Tv)

89 Big VDH fan, but he always reminds me of Dr. Manhattan or like he's somewhere on the spectrum. When he's "seething" I imagine him staring at you like a disappointed basset hound.

Posted by: pahound at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (M49ee)

90 Blacks bitterly complain about the disparity in media attention in "missing white girl" cases, yet they never complain about the disparate media attention in cop shooting cases.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 05, 2021 03:08 PM (k4dH2)

Let's not even discuss the NBA or NFL. Poor, poor black folk just trying to make a living and ol' whitey keepin' 'em down.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (okGHj)

91 I'm finding it easier and easier to simply hate and distrust everyone. Not you guys, of course.

Posted by: Weasel at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (MVjcR)

92
Doc was talking about why are so many jobs available and businesses desperately trying to hire people. I said government is paying them to stay home. What you subsidise you get more of.

But the media tells me those payments have stopped.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (63Dwl)

93 I really REALLY wish that they would scoop them up and bus them to Washington DC and dump them there and in the suburbs surrounding DC.


Wouldn't be prudent!

Posted by: Gov Abbott at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (ESjRY)

94
Liberalism is being weekend dad.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 05, 2021 03:10 PM (KbCG3)

_________

Her Majesty used to snarl about her ex being Disney Dad while she had all the hard work of raising her daughter alone.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (/U27+)

95 -- After all, you cannot hope to persuade anyone you are diametrically opposed to on every issue. --

A quibble: You CAN persuade such a person, under strict conditions:
1. You have the same end in view, but differ on methods;
2. You are both willing to agree to objective criteria for evaluating the measures in dispute;
3. You have agreed that neither shall impugn the other's motives.

I'll grant that Left and Right cannot currently meet those conditions.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (z/nZY)

96 Liberalism is being weekend dad.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 05, 2021 03:10 PM (KbCG3)

Liberalism (leftists) are like the uncle that wants to smoke pot with you and then tries to touch your junk.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (UuD2k)

97 I was banned at LGF and I should have gotten a T-shirt. Preferably one with one of his pathetic fence post photos on it.
Posted by: Xipe Totec


Most of us here were.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (OCTRt)

98 In fairness the WFB, he's been dead since W was president.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 05, 2021 03:13 PM (i9ZF7)

99 75 Standing athwart history yelling "right this way, boys!"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 05, 2021 03:11 PM (63Dwl)


Standing athwart conservatism, yelling "STOP!"

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:13 PM (IN5Dl)

100 "Police their own"

So condemn anyone who dares to suggest that maybe transgenderism is a mental disorder, or that the 2020 elections weren't entirely on the up and up.

But I guarandamntee you that they all knew about the ones in their midst who were preying on young men, and they said nothing.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 05, 2021 03:13 PM (jOcSX)

101 VDH is still a favorite of mine, can't agree with everything but he still has good opinions. See his latest case why Miley should be tried for treason
Posted by: Skip's Phone

You leave Miley alone, she's a wonderful person!!

Yeah, I know you meant General Milley, who is a....leave it a that. Way to go, Brandon.

The funny thing is that Mattis (as SecDef) didn't like Milley and didn't want his a Chairman of the JCS. So Trump decided to spite him and nominate Milley anyways. So Trump kind of screwed the pooch, here.
That was evident last summer when Milley got pissy about appearing with Trump in front of the church across the street from the White House.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:13 PM (vcOmj)

102 Dave Reaboi had an observation: National Review was founded not to persuade the general citizenry, but to persuade a specific microscopic subset of it: New York City based liberal intellectuals and the monied class generally.

That is a very bright and accurate observation, and it makes tremendous sense of what they are doing and how they react to things.

And yes, as the left has screamed around the bend with insane rapidity, the ability to reach out to them became more and more difficult, unless you too went around the bend, just a bit more slowly

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:13 PM (KZzsI)

103 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 05, 2021 03:10 PM (KbCG3)

The weekend dad that also hands out cocaine and invites his grown male friends over to entertain.

*cough*

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:13 PM (YglAn)

104 In fairness the WFB, he's been dead since W was president.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 05, 2021 03:13 PM (i9ZF7)


I've said before that I don't think Buckley would have liked Trump's candidacy, but he sure as hell would have understood how we got Trump.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 05, 2021 03:14 PM (jOcSX)

105 VDH was on Prager's show. He was talking about his new book which came out today.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 05, 2021 03:14 PM (63Dwl)

106
Blacks bitterly complain about the disparity in media attention in "missing white girl" cases,


So why does a black "power hitter" in the media, say Joy Reid, take up a case of two or three of missing wahmens of color and flog it to death, each and every day?

Because that might involve having to work for a living instead of being a perpetual grievance mongerer who merely has to engage her fat flapping yap to win plaudits from the hollowed out skulls that comprise her audience?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 05, 2021 03:14 PM (pNxlR)

107 I think it was whatsisface Lowry, senior NRO editor who got in early with a full-on broadside against the Covington kids without waiting for any actual facts to appear. It's like he couldn't fall all over himself fast enough to virtue-signal his left wing buddies.

And to this day, that article is uncorrected and unretracted.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:11 PM (IN5Dl)
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I remember Nick Frankovich wrote a nasty little moral jihad piece about the Covington boys, but he sort-of apologized. He still has a job there.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2021 03:14 PM (EM7sk)

108 Most of us here were.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (OCTRt)

Yes. I am in good company!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:14 PM (o2MD2)

109
Blacks bitterly complain about the disparity in media attention in "missing white girl" cases,


So why does a black "power hitter" in the media, say Joy Reid, not take up a case or two or three of missing wahmens of color and flog it to death, each and every day, on their show?

Because that might involve having to work for a living instead of being a perpetual grievance mongerer who merely has to engage her fat flapping yap to win plaudits from the hollowed out skulls that comprise her audience?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (pNxlR)

110 106 So why does a black "power hitter" in the media, say Joy Reid, take up a case of two or three of missing wahmens of color and flog it to death, each and every day?

Because that might involve having to work for a living instead of being a perpetual grievance mongerer who merely has to engage her fat flapping yap to win plaudits from the hollowed out skulls that comprise her audience?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 05, 2021 03:14 PM (pNxlR)

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Also, it's a 99% chance that the perp would be a black man who definitely didn't vote for Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (LvTSG)

111 I'll grant that Left and Right cannot currently meet those conditions.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at October 05, 2021 03:12 PM (z/nZY)
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Yes. It is why I no longer care about policy arguments. If you want to have a policy disagreement that you work out - say "legal immigration {should|should not} be limited by quotas" - then you have to agree on the basics. You have to agree on things like nation-state government, borders as a sovereign requirement, supremacy of the population of citizens in decision-making, etc. If you can't agree on the core basics, then there is no room for a policy argument. You can't argue "there should be strict restrictions on immigration" with someone who rejects the concept of a border.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (+IIqY)

112 The $3.5 trillion spending bill has $3 billion for a tree-planting program that increases "tree equity."

Posted by: SMOD at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (RHGPo)

113 Correction to an earlier post:

"The McMullin "camp" consists of McMullin, Bill Kristol, their wives, and their wives' f***-stags."

No, don't you remember? The f***-stags voted for Trump. Why would the wives want another small limp d***? They've already got that.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (7X3UV)

114 Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:13 PM (vcOmj)


I love me some Trump but damn his ego got in the way of some hires. That and his love of experts and credentials.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (YglAn)

115 After the 8 years of Obama was there anybody good Trump could have appointed?

Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (CYnTg)

116 I actually thought VDH left National Review not long after Trump was elected. I remember reading an interview with him that someone from here had linked to in the comments, where he said something to the effect of "they've gone completely around the bend." That cemented my admiration for him.

I got ticked off at NR for their "Never Trump" issue back before Trump was the Republican nominee, not because I voted for Trump in the primary (I didn't) but because I thought what if he is the nominee, are you going to back the Democrat?

Hoooooo boy.

Posted by: bluebell at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (wyw4S)

117 LGF 'policed' their own until no one worth a damn was left.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (DrKir)

118 A quibble: You CAN persuade such a person, under strict conditions:
1. You have the same end in view, but differ on methods;
2. You are both willing to agree to objective criteria for evaluating the measures in dispute;
3. You have agreed that neither shall impugn the other's motives.

I'll grant that Left and Right cannot currently meet those conditions.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto

It's great that you have a few moments to comment here.
Just saying, I miss "Eternity Road". Really great writing.
Thank you.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (vcOmj)

119 Liberalism is being weekend dad.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 05, 2021 03:10 PM (KbCG3)

Considering that not one of them can stay married for any decent length of time, that's is quite accurate.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (okGHj)

120 I have the feeling that NY intellectuals have a mutual feeling about Alaska, so that's all well and good, I suppose.
Posted by: tcn in AK at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (okGHj)

The thing is that you (or us in general) want to be left alone and don't try to enforce our beliefs down their necks. They on the other can't leave us alone and always want to jam their religion down our throats using the government, academia, and the media.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (68WvR)

121 So why does a black "power hitter" in the media, say Joy Reid, take up a case of two or three of missing wahmens of color and flog it to death, each and every day?

Because you'd find out they were most likely killed bu their black boy friends or their black neighbor.

And that is the other complaint of the FNM - that crime stories focus on too many young black men.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (ESjRY)

122 @70
Political Conservatism is largely a figment of the imagination.

I can't really even think of a single political initiative or policy goal that was conservative in nature that was actually made a reality.

A one time "balancing" of the budget?
Some tax cuts sprinkled about over the last 40 years?
That's pretty much it.

The only administration that had as it's main thrust and goal to do "conservative" things was the last administration.

And we see how that turned out.
The Uniparty said, fuck that shit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (7gK4M)

123 When is the NR going to put a glossy picture of a Philipino Tranny in a Bustier on their vaunted cover?

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (flINI)

124 Because that might involve having to work for a living instead of being a perpetual grievance mongerer who merely has to engage her fat flapping yap to win plaudits from the hollowed out skulls that comprise her audience?

Because the perpetrators are the wrong race.

I asked before: if the missing girl was black, but her boyfriend was white, would the media have been interested in the case? I think so. If the races were reversed -the girlfriend was white but the boyfriend was black- they would have hushed it up.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (jOcSX)

125 hola chamucos y chamucas y bully

Posted by: memin_pinguin at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (oSX/P)

126 I've always had a problem with "intellectuals". It seems that to be one, you need to use a paragraph to say what can be expressed in a sentence.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (o2MD2)

127 Because that might involve having to work for a living instead of being a perpetual grievance mongerer who merely has to engage her fat flapping yap to win plaudits from the hollowed out skulls that comprise her audience?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 05, 2021 03:14 PM (pNxlR)

There's plenty of media time for what the culture values. Bballers and gangbangers.

Posted by: flounder at October 05, 2021 03:17 PM (KnJdm)

128 124 I asked before: if the missing girl was black, but her boyfriend was white, would the media have been interested in the case? I think so. If the races were reversed -the girlfriend was white but the boyfriend was black- they would have hushed it up.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (jOcSX)

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It's important to hush up stories that give people the wrong ideas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:17 PM (LvTSG)

129 97 I was banned at LGF and I should have gotten a T-shirt. Preferably one with one of his pathetic fence post photos on it.
Posted by: Xipe Totec


Most of us here were.
___________

I never understood how he kept any commenters, the way the thin-skinned dick would keep banning people for the slightest offense. I think he banned me after my second comment there. LOL. That was a long time ago.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 05, 2021 03:17 PM (k4dH2)

130 They can feel Trump and it scares them.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 05, 2021 03:17 PM (nd/mG)

131 I remember Nick Frankovich wrote a nasty little moral jihad piece about the Covington boys, but he sort-of apologized. He still has a job there.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2021 03:14 PM (EM7sk)
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Yes, his is the screed I remember but I do not remember him apologizing. I thought they just sort of ignored it and went on about their business.

Posted by: bluebell at October 05, 2021 03:17 PM (wyw4S)

132 Hey JROD, if you're in this thread:

**fistbump**

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:17 PM (YYlyE)

133 I can't really even think of a single political initiative or policy goal that was conservative in nature that was actually made a reality.

Welfare reform in the mid-90s.

But then the left got Dennis Hastert to be the top Republican in DC and its all been controlled opposition since then.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:17 PM (ESjRY)

134 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (LvTSG)

Pretty much this. Not to mention the elephant in the room would be, mass killings in Democrat run cities.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:17 PM (YglAn)

135 As of 5 minutes ago, Biden was still talking (i.e. reading from the teleprompter). Whoever is doing his meds is a genius.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (PiwSw)

136 How old is Dave Reaboi? He doesn't look like he was around for much of early NR. I was a subscriber into the early 2000s. The idea that NR was courting liberal opinion before the. is pretty uninformed. Maybe he's accurately describing some later incarnation of the magazine. But he doesn't know shit from shinola if he thinks that's what pre-2000s NR was like.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (QU5/8)

137 I like VDH
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One
......

Me too. He's from Fresno I think, along with Nunes.

Posted by: wth at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (v0R5T)

138 124 Because that might involve having to work for a living instead of being a perpetual grievance mongerer who merely has to engage her fat flapping yap to win plaudits from the hollowed out skulls that comprise her audience?

Because the perpetrators are the wrong race.

I asked before: if the missing girl was black, but her boyfriend was white, would the media have been interested in the case? I think so. If the races were reversed -the girlfriend was white but the boyfriend was black- they would have hushed it up.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (jOcSX)

Is the missing girl attractive? That's where it starts.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (KbCG3)

139 who wasn't banned at lgf

Posted by: memin_pinguin at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (oSX/P)

140 Because that might involve having to work for a living instead of being a perpetual grievance mongerer who merely has to engage her fat flapping yap to win plaudits from the hollowed out skulls that comprise her audience?

Pretty much. She can't get that from her Twitter friends so she doesn't know about it or have any desire to dig and find out. Its not like she could not turn this into an anti-Trump thing.

Also: she does not give a damn about little black girls being missing or dead, not really. That issue doesn't affect her power, money, comfort, or pleasure.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (KZzsI)

141 The $3.5 trillion spending bill has $3 billion for a tree-planting program that increases "tree equity."
Posted by: SMOD at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (RHGPo)



We can take care of that.

Posted by: Hatchet, Axe, and Saw at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (i9ZF7)

142 Immigration was the tipping point.

That was when they all sold out (for money) and told themselves it was not about overrunning the country with crime, low wages, and elements destructive to our communities. They had to find justification for taking the Chamber of commerce / Silicon Valley / liberal money viewpoint. NRO claimed it was to tamp down the riff raff and racist element. WSJ claimed it was good for the economy. Mostly they all agreed it was racist.

But anyone who spent time in middle class neighborhoods understood it was about crime, jobs, schools, taxes, and services.

But once they accepted that lie, they established who they were, and it was just a discussion about price.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (dj58i)

143
The $3.5 trillion spending bill has $3 billion for a tree-planting program that increases "tree equity."
Posted by: SMOD


Hatchet, ax and saw

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 05, 2021 03:19 PM (63Dwl)

144 Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:16 PM (o2MD2)

Yup.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:19 PM (YglAn)

145 After the 8 years of Obama was there anybody good Trump could have appointed?
Posted by: steevy


Doesn't matter. Trump appointed who he was "allowed" to appoint.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:19 PM (OCTRt)

146 Before Bahma was candidate POWER LINE had the best site in the world.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 05, 2021 03:20 PM (HCRRg)

147 He's from Fresno I think, along with Nunes.
Posted by: wth at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (v0R5T)

Selma.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at October 05, 2021 03:20 PM (HwtiA)

148 Pretty much this. Not to mention the elephant in the room would be, mass killings in Democrat run cities.

I was pointing out to a friend that horror movies being set in the 'sticks are kind of silly.

He asked why and I pointed out that almost all murders in America happen in the cities.

The biggest danger a bunch of yankee backpackers have in the sticks is dying from exposure. Walk down the wrong street in Chicago though and you'll wish you only had to deal with Jason...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:20 PM (ESjRY)

149 Understanding today's proggies is easy. They, and I mean each and every one of them, have rejected Our Lord, and their entire mindset is "You're not the boss of ME!" That is the sum total of their framework for living. They are the clear embodiment of an itch seeking a scratch, and urge seeking a hand job, so to speak.

That is their moral, ethical framework. They cannot understand ours. They have no frame of reference.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 05, 2021 03:20 PM (okGHj)

150 I love me some Trump but damn his ego got in the way of some hires. That and his love of experts and credentials.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (YglAn)


Yup. Unforced errors.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:20 PM (IN5Dl)

151 Posted by: memin_pinguin at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (oSX/P)

Cannot be banned if you never posted there.

Blackguy.jpg

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:21 PM (YglAn)

152 After the 8 years of Obama was there anybody good Trump could have appointed?
Posted by: steevy


That is actually a very good question. The Liberal - Left runs a shadow government in all the big foundations and think tanks, and a lot of the high level apparatchniks (under the top Name Brand Cabinet people) in any Dem Executive branch come from there.
They're well paid, rested and ready. They all pretty much share the same values. Leftist, Corporatist, Authoritarian.
WE THOUGHT "we" (the Right, Conservatives) were doing something similar with the Heritage Foundation and the CATO Institute.
Uh....wrong. We were fooled again.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:21 PM (vcOmj)

153 How old is Dave Reaboi? He doesn't look like he was around for much of early NR. I was a subscriber into the early 2000s. The idea that NR was courting liberal opinion before the. is pretty uninformed. Maybe he's accurately describing some later incarnation of the magazine. But he doesn't know shit from shinola if he thinks that's what pre-2000s NR was like.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (QU5/


He's 29, like the rest of us.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 05, 2021 03:21 PM (jOcSX)

154 148 The biggest danger a bunch of yankee backpackers have in the sticks is dying from exposure. Walk down the wrong street in Chicago though and you'll wish you only had to deal with Jason...
Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:20 PM (ESjRY)

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Idea:

Movie of parallel narratives. Two brothers go on separate vacations at the same time, one to the mountains and the other to Chicago to do some sight-seeing. They both die horribly, but they explore their relationship with each other in their final moments as each lays dying, calling each other and knowing that no help will come in time.

There will be tears.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (LvTSG)

155 What is LGF?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (+IIqY)

156 Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:20 PM (ESjRY)

That is what crime movies are for. Having a psycho stalk you where no one can help you or find you is terrifying in a different way than taking a jog in Baltimore at 3am. But you make a good point overall.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (YglAn)

157 155 What is LGF?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (+IIqY)

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Little Green Footballs. Andy Sullivan's (I think) old place.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (LvTSG)

158 WE THOUGHT "we" (the Right, Conservatives) were doing something similar with the Heritage Foundation and the CATO Institute.

THEY want corporatism and unlimited immigration. We wanted unlimited immigration and corporatism.

Come on people, pay attention here!

Posted by: the Heritage Foundation and the CATO Institute at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (ESjRY)

159 135 As of 5 minutes ago, Biden was still talking (i.e. reading from the teleprompter). Whoever is doing his meds is a genius.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (PiwSw)

And you are LISTENING? Ew. Take a shower when you are done.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (okGHj)

160 I can't really even think of a single political initiative or policy goal that was conservative in nature that was actually made a reality.

____

I can think of several political victories, but it's clear some objectives (like securing the border) are lost on purpose.

That problem really could be fixed over night if we really wanted to. You can even go back to Reagan for why it was never addressed and even encouraged.

Big business wanted cheap labor. America as we know it will end over some agribusiness getting to save a nickel on a head of lettuce.

Posted by: Blago at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (Mh8ci)

161 121 So why does a black "power hitter" in the media, say Joy Reid, take up a case of two or three of missing wahmens of color and flog it to death, each and every day?

Because you'd find out they were most likely killed bu their black boy friends or their black neighbor.
______________

Most of the "missing white girl" cases are also whites killed by other whites. Just like a "missing black girl" would almost always be somebody who was killed by another black.

People in these cases typically get killed by people they know -- spouses, boyfriends, friends, neighbors, etc. So they're almost always going to be of the same race, because people tend to hang out with people who are like them.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (k4dH2)

162 Love the Horde Mind.

And Rush. RIP Neil

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (XvPQV)

163 Little Green Footballs. Andy Sullivan's (I think) old place.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (LvTSG)
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Ah, okay. Thank you for the definition.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (+IIqY)

164 139 who wasn't banned at lgf

Posted by: memin_pinguin at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (oSX/P)


Me. Of course, I only posted a handful of comments before Chuckie spazzed out.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (IN5Dl)

165 what ? lol

Posted by: memin_pinguin at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (oSX/P)

166 So why does a black "power hitter" in the media, say Joy Reid, not take up a case or two or three of missing wahmens of color and flog it to death, each and every day, on their show?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (pNxlR)

Simpler, 90% of Black crime victims? The person who did the crime is Black. THEY KNOW THIS.

ergo, they won't talk about ANY crime against a Black, until they KNOW Whitey McWhiteFace did it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (oHd/0)

167 LGF little green footballs

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (Y+l9t)

168 Trump's picks were largely the people we had long hoped would be put into key positions. The problem was that they fucked us over, or just failed. Of course, Trump was unlikely to get anyone through who wasn't approved by the establishment, since the GOP Senate was always going to be a problem.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (jOcSX)

169 155 What is LGF?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (+IIqY)

Lesbian Girl Friend.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (o2MD2)

170 > Also, it's a 99% chance that the perp would be a black man who definitely didn't vote for Trump.

This right here.

Some Native American women wanted to showcase their own missing woman when they felt Gabby Petito was getting undue attention. They had their own example at the ready. Reatha May Finkbonner, 30, of Bellingham.

That person was quickly found.
She had been arrested for a felony, released, and they found her drunk, at a casino.

Oops.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (YYlyE)

171 Madamemayhembet he lives in a bubble, maybe only hears Leftist news but doesn't believe it but looks no where else for information

Posted by: Skip's Phone at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (fHCeQ)

172 Big business wanted cheap labor. America as we know it will end over some agribusiness getting to save a nickel on a head of lettuce.
Posted by: Blago at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (Mh8ci)

already happened.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (trdmm)

173 That is actually a very good question. The Liberal - Left runs a shadow government in all the big foundations and think tanks, and a lot of the high level apparatchniks (under the top Name Brand Cabinet people) in any Dem Executive branch come from there.
They're well paid, rested and ready. They all pretty much share the same values. Leftist, Corporatist, Authoritarian.
WE THOUGHT "we" (the Right, Conservatives) were doing something similar with the Heritage Foundation and the CATO Institute.
Uh....wrong. We were fooled again.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:21 PM (vcOmj)

I was sure Omarosa was going to take care of this.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (KbCG3)

174
What is LGF?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (+IIqY)

_________

Little Green Footballs, a blog run by Charles Johnson, a raging leftie who became a raging hawk after 9/11 before reverting to raging leftism and banning anyone who disagreed with him.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (/U27+)

175 who wasn't banned at lgf
Posted by: memin_pinguin


I'm not sure, but I don't think Spartacus was. But he's been dead for 2000 years too. So, there you go.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (vcOmj)

176 97 I was banned at LGF and I should have gotten a T-shirt. Preferably one with one of his pathetic fence post photos on it.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

***

I made my own "Tankers on the Horizon" t-shirt. I think I still have it somewhere.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (flINI)

177 Joy Reid == "Black Power Hitter" kind of sums up our current Zeitgeist....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (PiwSw)

178 I left of my own accord. Don't think I was actually commenting back then, just reading everything and anything to try and find someone who thought like I did.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (Y+l9t)

179 I wasn't banned at LGF because I never commented there. Only went there once or twice during the whole GW AWOL thing

Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:25 PM (CYnTg)

180 I'm not sure, but I don't think Spartacus was. But he's been dead for 2000 years too. So, there you go.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (vcOmj)
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Pansy. Death doesn't stop everyone.

Posted by: Rasputin at October 05, 2021 03:25 PM (+IIqY)

181 I decided to watch all the Proj Veritas videos on the vaccines so far (better to binge his vids I think) and it was kinda funny hearing all the people from big pharma saying I wouldn't get our shot and kids shouldn't get the vaxx, too many unknowns. Well not funny in a ha ha way.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 05, 2021 03:25 PM (r5BVk)

182 Fook all of yah!

Posted by: Wild Irish Hose at October 05, 2021 03:25 PM (UHVv4)

183 Who wasn't banned?

Super Monitor Lizard Sharmuta I bet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2021 03:25 PM (DrKir)

184 Teachers fired for refusing the jab chant, "Let's go Brandon!"

https://bit.ly/3uHiIAB

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 05, 2021 03:25 PM (d9FiS)

185 I love me some Trump but damn his ego got in the way of some hires. That and his love of experts and credentials.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (YglAn)

Yup. Unforced errors.
Posted by: OregonMuse

I know an elected Republican that got to know Trump and spend some time with him in the WH. Trump really liked him, was an ally of his agenda, etc.

Thought it was odd how much Trump seemed to really want a "friend" while President. In a tragic, sad sort of way.

Trump was just very easily manipulated, a little flattery and he would give you the keys to the kingdom.

Posted by: Blago at October 05, 2021 03:26 PM (Mh8ci)

186 Oops.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (YYlyE)

Yeah, we have issues with this up here, too. Seems that most of the Native women who are murdered or go missing turn out to have been abused and/or murdered by their Native husbands, boyfriends, or drug-using buddies.

Makes it a bit of a hard sell in the city.

Also, our astronomical domestic abuse numbers? Not in the city, but in the villages. By Natives on Natives. But they don't say that. They try to make it our problem. Good luck with that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 05, 2021 03:26 PM (okGHj)

187 Little Green Footballs, a blog run by Charles Johnson, a raging leftie who became a raging hawk after 9/11 before reverting to raging leftism and banning anyone who disagreed with him.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (/U27+)

I seriously think his raging back to the left was driven in part to a horrible divorce and a desire to get back with his "kin", who he really didn't have major disagreements with aside from the WoT.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 05, 2021 03:26 PM (5aFbR)

188 135 As of 5 minutes ago, Biden was still talking (i.e. reading from the teleprompter). Whoever is doing his meds is a genius.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (PiwSw)
........

Which Americans is he threatening now?

Posted by: wth at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM (v0R5T)

189 145 After the 8 years of Obama was there anybody good Trump could have appointed?
Posted by: steevy

Doesn't matter. Trump appointed who he was "allowed" to appoint.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:19 PM (OCTRt)

Yeah, just look at what they did to Gen. Flynn. Look what they did to Bannon. Look at all the Trump supporters who were suddenly under indictment or going to Jail.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM (oHd/0)

190 I was a pure, committed lurker at lgf, not a half-hearted lurker like I am here.
So I never got banned.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM (cSyAR)

191 I made my own "Tankers on the Horizon" t-shirt. I think I still have it somewhere.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (flINI)

Yeah that was a classic, but not comparable to "Empty Beach', or "Bicycle Spokes on Sand".

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM (o2MD2)

192 170 Some Native American women wanted to showcase their own missing woman when they felt Gabby Petito was getting undue attention. They had their own example at the ready. Reatha May Finkbonner, 30, of Bellingham.

That person was quickly found.
She had been arrested for a felony, released, and they found her drunk, at a casino.

Oops.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (YYlyE)

========

"This perpetuates the totally untrue stereotype that American Indians are drunks. Smother it with a pillow. Now, invent a story about how Republicans are cousin humping rednecks that shoot black gay men for meth."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM (LvTSG)

193 The thing is, you lose VDH and its time to stop and do some serious thinking about what it is you do and why.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM (KZzsI)

194 Chuckie and his bicycle wish for a hot Lesbian 'Grrl' Friend.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM (DrKir)

195 I love me some Trump but damn his ego got in the way of some hires. That and his love of experts and credentials.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:15 PM (YglAn)

Yup. Unforced errors.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, at October 05, 2021 03:20
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Or forced errors from insiders? Outsider gets into the Oval Ofc and his advisors are giving him bad advice. Who can you trust?

Posted by: olddog in mo, Pontoon Captain* (like a real captain, only drunker) at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM (ju2Fy)

196 Little Green Footballs -the greatest blog ever!


aka Little Green Fartballs

Posted by: Kilgore Trout at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM (LilNs)

197 177 Joy Reid == "Black Power Hitter" kind of sums up our current Zeitgeist....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (PiwSw)

Hank Aaron > Joyless Reid

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM (okGHj)

198 After the 8 years of Obama was there anybody good Trump could have appointed?
Posted by: steevy

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I'm just thinking who will be there to appoint when/if Trump wins again or even DeSantis. The elites have made it impossible to now appoint anybody but members of own family. Who else could you trust. Trump is now left with a handful of people who have not sold him out.

On the other hand, it might be more profitable and just to appoint random members of the public, as advocated by the founder of National Review.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 05, 2021 03:28 PM (4cXAQ)

199 LGF? I went there once. For a couple minutes.

Posted by: wth at October 05, 2021 03:28 PM (v0R5T)

200 -
Yeah, just look at what they did to Gen. Flynn. Look what they did to Bannon. Look at all the Trump supporters who were suddenly under indictment or going to Jail.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 05, 2021 03:27 PM -
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The swamp knows who is and isn't it's own.

Posted by: irright at October 05, 2021 03:28 PM (SchQD)

201 What is LGF?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:22 PM (+IIqY)

It is a rapidly shrinking little website that is owned by Emperor Charles The First.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 05, 2021 03:28 PM (Q9lwr)

202 Trump was just very easily manipulated, a little flattery and he would give you the keys to the kingdom.
Posted by: Blago at October 05, 2021 03:26 PM (Mh8ci)

The sad part is, look how hard everyone turned on him to cash in. Omarosa, Scaramucci (sp?)...

His allegiance to Rudy during the post-election period makes sense in this prism.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 05, 2021 03:29 PM (KbCG3)

203 Yeah, we have issues with this up here, too. Seems that most of the Native women who are murdered or go missing turn out to have been abused and/or murdered by their Native husbands, boyfriends, or drug-using buddies.

It is a very sad fact of life, yeah. But there are an AWFUL lot of Indian women who have vanished in that area and its something that has been basically ignored, particularly by the press. At least some of them are victims of murder.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:29 PM (KZzsI)

204
NR started going sour after Buckley died. It's like these little NY fruits were just waiting for him to be underground so they could let it all hang out.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 05, 2021 03:29 PM (cTqLg)

205 so are you an heir ?

Posted by: memin_pinguin at October 05, 2021 03:29 PM (oSX/P)

206 Yeah, just look at what they did to Gen. Flynn. Look what they did to Bannon. Look at all the Trump supporters who were suddenly under indictment or going to Jail.
Posted by: Romeo13
___

But Trump played a very big role in what happened to all of these people.

Trump didn't even have the decency to hand some pardons on the way out, unless it was some rapper that Kushner convinced him would be important.

Posted by: Blago at October 05, 2021 03:29 PM (Mh8ci)

207 Boogers. Little green footballs were boogers.

There, I said it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 05, 2021 03:29 PM (XvPQV)

208 Chuckie and his bicycle wish for a hot Lesbian 'Grrl' Friend.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Riding his bike with the seat off and the seat post extended.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:29 PM (OCTRt)

209 Hank aaron is 100% protected from the COVIDs. And that is a fact!

Posted by: The Clot Shot protecting cadavers from COVID since 2019 at October 05, 2021 03:29 PM (ESjRY)

210 >>>Joy Reid == "Black Power Hitler"

Better.

Posted by: flounder at October 05, 2021 03:30 PM (KnJdm)

211 >>I was pointing out to a friend that horror movies being set in the 'sticks are kind of silly.


I recall reading that the director of "Attack the Blick" got a lot of flak for setting his horror movie in the UK version of the projects (racism or somesuch). It's a fun movie and they show the kids as not being entorely bad or good.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2021 03:30 PM (bDqIh)

212 Not only was I not banned at LGF, I never even heard of it except from people here talking about how they all got banned from there.

Prior to here I spent my time at *hangs head in shame* NRO. Didn't comment there much but signed up to comment right away when they started with comments because I wanted to welcome back Mark Steyn, who had been away for almost a year due to illness.

Posted by: bluebell at October 05, 2021 03:30 PM (wyw4S)

213 Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2021 03:20 PM (ESjRY)

What happened with Bannon again?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:30 PM (YglAn)

214 The swamp knows who is and isn't it's own.
Posted by: irright at October 05, 2021 03:28 PM (SchQD)

"Does he bear the mark? Did you see it on him?"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 05, 2021 03:30 PM (XvPQV)

215 I was a pure, committed lurker at lgf, not a half-hearted lurker like I am here.
So I never got banned.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy


You lurk, therefore, you are. Someone who lurks, fulltime.

We're all depending on you!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:30 PM (vcOmj)

216 Does Rich Lowry smoke a pipe?

Posted by: Capital Eff at October 05, 2021 03:30 PM (5tb3b)

217 This pretty blonde with perfect teeth wears a big smile because she doesn't subject herself to the National Review:
https://is.gd/T9RWwm

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:30 PM (+IIqY)

218 Why does Bug-Out Joe's plan (that he says he wrote himself!) have to fix so many problems that have been un-addressed for so long? Why didn't he and Obama and Pelosi, Schumer, Harry Reid, Tom Daschel, Billy Jeff, and all the other of the nation's Democrats fix these long-running problems, long ago?

How long have the Democrats been bitching about the rich and all the corporations not "paying their fair share?" Why are college costs so high nowadays? Why didn't the hundreds of billions of dollars the Dept of Education gave to schools every year for decades produce high school kids who are ready for the 21st Century?

It's all a racket.

Posted by: Gref at October 05, 2021 03:30 PM (AMIL/)

219 I seriously think his raging back to the left was driven in part to a horrible divorce and a desire to get back with his "kin", who he really didn't have major disagreements with aside from the WoT.
Posted by: Thrawn at October 05, 2021 03:26 PM (5aFbR)

there was also a mercenary/revenge aspect. Early on, he thought he was going to be a Heavy Hitter at Salem Media or Townhall (forget which, it was all fluid in the early days) But, everyone he dealt with figured out fast that he was a big jerk and froze him out. A few days later, he flopped from pretending he was Right Wing to being a hard core leftie again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (trdmm)

220 It's not really the case that National Review is attempting to persuade NYC Liberal Intelligentsia to adopt conservative positions, or at least it hasn't been in that in 30+ years, it's that National Review is attempting to persuade NYC libs that everyone working for National Review "is not THAT type of conservative."

Every column is basically: "Hey, Jeff [Goldberg], you know what would look good at your next Atlantic symposium, well, not to put too fine a point on it, ME."

Posted by: Match Checksout at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (dYe5S)

221 but her husband does.

Posted by: memin_pinguin at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (oSX/P)

222 I spent tons of time at The Corner and here, I used to like Nordlinger and Jonah Goldberg

Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (CYnTg)

223 I used to go to LGF for comments (my blog was, initially, about smart and great comments by non-bloggers, just regular commenters). I couldn't find very many good ones there, it was rare.

Believe it or not I got an email from someone writing for the NYT magazine about my blog and internet commenting, but she could tell from the tone of my voice and answers that I wasn't exactly enthused to work with her.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (KZzsI)

224 National Review canned Mark Steyn over a tepid gay joke from the Rat Pack / Bob Hope era that practically every liberal's grandparents would have laughed at and probably did. Mostly because his warnings about unchecked immigration didn't sit well with the GOP crowd who had the US Chamber of Commerce on speed dial and partly because National Review decided that teh ghey sexy was a new conservative value.

Don't even get me started on them running off John Derbyshire and present-day race relations.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (PzEuz)

225 reverting to raging leftism and banning anyone who disagreed with him.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2021 03:24 PM (/U27+)

When he banned me I was a little surprised. My comment was a political point and a mild criticism of Charles The Great's stance on the issue.

Five minutes later I was banned, and my first thought was, "Dude...you have some issues!"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 05, 2021 03:32 PM (Q9lwr)

226 there was also a mercenary/revenge aspect. Early on, he thought he was going to be a Heavy Hitter at Salem Media or Townhall (forget which, it was all fluid in the early days) But, everyone he dealt with figured out fast that he was a big jerk and froze him out. A few days later, he flopped from pretending he was Right Wing to being a hard core leftie again.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Salem iirc.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:32 PM (OCTRt)

227 I do not think I ever read anything from LGF.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:32 PM (csEWM)

228 My dad's been reupping my print subscription to NR for a few years. I finally had the call with him a couple of weeks ago that he doesn't need to do it anymore, that I'll come up with something else he can get me for Christmas if he wants.

I think he liked just having the gift idea in place without much thought.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:32 PM (LvTSG)

229 I don't wish them well in their new careers. I don't wish anything for them except the Lord dumps out his Holy Spirit on them like a 50 gallon drum of water. Besides that I just prefer they spin off into the obscurity of private life and work on controlling themselves instead of controlling others.

Posted by: Paul in Texas at October 05, 2021 03:33 PM (kYyDC)

230 This pretty blonde with perfect teeth wears a big smile

Very pretty lady with a wonderful smile

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:33 PM (KZzsI)

231 Somebody watched Omega Man last night...( that whole speech from Mathias is in a Whitezombie song from the first album I think)

Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:33 PM (CYnTg)

232 I was never at LGF. Only know about it because Reynold's linked it oftenish. I was busy running a blawg and discussing important topics like stare decisis with other blawgers and neglecting even more important topics, like luscious bazooms and shelving prowess.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 05, 2021 03:33 PM (QU5/8)

233 I think he liked just having the gift idea in place without much thought.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:32 PM (LvTSG)

He thought you valued it- so he got it for you. That is gift enough.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:33 PM (csEWM)

234 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:30 PM (+IIqY)

Speaking of perfect teeth....

https://tinyurl.com/yvn4zfw4

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:33 PM (o2MD2)

235 Conservatism is a mode, or an attitude, more than it is an ideology. Conservatism assumes the inherent goodness of institutions. When institutions are corrupted, conservatism is inevitably corrupted itself in turn.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (VbtgJ)

236 Posted by: Azathoth at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (PzEuz)

I remember that Derbyshire piece. I did not agree with it in its entirety but I understood it and thought firing him was wrong.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (YglAn)

237 Little green footballs were boogers.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 05, 2021 03:29 PM (XvPQV)

Goose turds.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (Q9lwr)

238 Speaking of perfect teeth....

https://tinyurl.com/yvn4zfw4

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:33 PM (o2MD2)

Leggy!

Posted by: flounder at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (KnJdm)

239 "But I wish them all good luck in their future careers."

Bless their hearts as a job reference.

Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (FhXTo)

240 I really like the Trump-as-gunslinger analogy. "Thanks for saving us mister, but we don't want your sort around here."

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (HmZuC)

241 Prior to here I spent my time at *hangs head in shame* NRO. Didn't comment there much but signed up to comment right away when they started with comments because I wanted to welcome back Mark Steyn, who had been away for almost a year due to illness.
Posted by: bluebell

I used to read NR Online all the time 18-20 years ago. I e-mailed John Derbyshire a couple of times about aspects of a column he wrote, and he always replied. I think he was a really good guy, and look what they did to him.
I e-mailed Jonah Goldberg a couple of times about a column, and never heard squat back from him. He's a puny little whining quim.
I flushed NRO after they came out AGAINST steel tariffs (Asian factories and others dumping cheap steel) because it directly affected two of my relatives. I thought they were being pointy-headed assholes...and... I was right.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (vcOmj)

242 And how could Tucker not know that literally every NRO commentator that spoke (tweeted or posted) about the Covington thing initially, and forcefully, condemned the [pro-life] kids? Nick Frankovich literally, compared them (unfavorably?) to Roman soldiers crucifying Jesus.

Posted by: Match Checksout at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (dYe5S)

243 Steyn was none too happy with NR because they just wanted him to roll over in the Mann lawsuit as well

Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (CYnTg)

244
Another one that went off the rails completely was Brothers Judd.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (/U27+)

245 LGF's biggest triumph was publicizing someone else's work on the TANG memo, showing the way it was clearly done on someone's word processor. Charles didn't exactly take credit for it, but he didn't exactly NOT do so either. He certainly got all the accolades and attention.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (KZzsI)

246 But I wish them all good luck in their future careers.

---------

Old and busted: "Would you like to superspread that meal?"
New hotness: "$20, same as in town."

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (bbNp6)

247 When he banned me I was a little surprised. My comment was a political point and a mild criticism of Charles The Great's stance on the issue.

Five minutes later I was banned, and my first thought was, "Dude...you have some issues!"
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


I made some quip about Sashimi and Malachi.(Obola's crotch fruit)

Excuse me? 8 years of shit against the Bush girls is ok?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:35 PM (OCTRt)

248 I think he liked just having the gift idea in place without much thought.

I give my parents a subscription to the Epoch Times every year, and my kids a AAA subscription.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 05, 2021 03:35 PM (i9ZF7)

249 242 I'm sure he did but was letting his guest answer to it

Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:35 PM (CYnTg)

250 233 I think he liked just having the gift idea in place without much thought.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:32 PM (LvTSG)

He thought you valued it- so he got it for you. That is gift enough.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:33 PM (csEWM)

=========

He also said outright a couple of years ago that it was nice to not have to think about that particular gift. I mean, I haven't done more than flip through one since the election, and even then it was cursory glances at regular features.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

251 I spent tons of time at The Corner and here, I used to like Nordlinger and Jonah Goldberg
Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (CYnTg)
-------

*goes to sit next to steevy*

Although I always preferred Geraghty to Goldberg. But Mark Steyn was my absolute fave.

Posted by: bluebell at October 05, 2021 03:35 PM (wyw4S)

252 240 I really like the Trump-as-gunslinger analogy. "Thanks for saving us mister, but we don't want your sort around here."
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (HmZuC)

I thought of him as a Cruise missile we shot at DC.

They just had much better damage control than I thought they would.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 05, 2021 03:35 PM (oHd/0)

253 And how could Tucker not know that literally every NRO commentator that spoke

I am guessing that was interviewer pose, asking questions in order to get to an answer, not because he was unaware of it.

Although who knows. I get a strong whiff of shyster from Tucker. A man playing a role.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:35 PM (KZzsI)

254 Don't even get me started on them running off John Derbyshire and present-day race relations.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (PzEuz)


I never understood why Florence King stayed around as long as she did.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 05, 2021 03:36 PM (2JVJo)

255 I think the problem with NR is they're all arrogant a$$holes who think people outside of their lil' Acela bubble are stupid and need their wisdom to understand how things work. Or to just die already, right, Kevin Williamson?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2021 03:36 PM (bDqIh)

256 He also said outright a couple of years ago that it was nice to not have to think about that particular gift. I mean, I haven't done more than flip through one since the election, and even then it was cursory glances at regular features.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

Well, you could get him to pay for your platinum membership to AOS!

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 05, 2021 03:36 PM (oHd/0)

257 New York City Liberal Intellectuals are neither liberal nor intellectuals.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 05, 2021 03:36 PM (iDcra)

258 The thing is, all of these assholes are trading on glory from long ago and in many cases earned by others.

NR was always something that you read because they had authors you liked. Florence King, VDH, Derbyshire -occasionally- I got the feeling I would have major issues with the dude in person and that is the reason I quit reading him. Not about the 'racism' but his earlier comments on the Terry Schiavo case.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:36 PM (csEWM)

259 I self banned on lgf

Posted by: CN at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (ONvIw)

260 Boogernuggets on Broadway
Boogernuggets in space
Boogernuggets are totally green
And they've got a really cute face

Posted by: theme from the hit sitcom The Boogernuggets at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (h5TKJ)

261 256 Well, you could get him to pay for your platinum membership to AOS!
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 05, 2021 03:36 PM (oHd/0)

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I don't think he wants the equivalent of ANOTHER mortgage payment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

262 Once Mr Smoove jazz lost his mind I just quietly left.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (y7DUB)

263
American Spectator used to be in Bloomington, IN. Unfortunately they moved to DC.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (/U27+)

264 Little green footballs were boogers.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 05, 2021 03:29 PM (XvPQV)

Goose turds.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (Q9lwr)

Boogers are funnier

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (XvPQV)

265 251 I liked pretty much all of them. Oh well the masks came off or in some cases my blinders fell off.

Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (CYnTg)

266 I said " ban me you freakish girlie boy" and he did

Posted by: CN at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (ONvIw)

267 257 New York City Liberal Intellectuals are neither liberal nor intellectuals.

Discuss amongst yourselves.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 05, 2021 03:36 PM (iDcra)

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I'm getting verklempt.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

268 New York City Liberal Intellectuals are neither liberal nor intellectuals.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 05, 2021 03:36 PM (iDcra)

QED

Posted by: flounder at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (KnJdm)

269 I walked passed VDH during a visit to Stanford a few years ago and told him I loved his work. We chatted for a bit and he gave me the name of a killer lunch place out in the central valley on the way to Yosemite.

Good guy.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 05, 2021 03:01 PM (eZshs)

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I think that is the whole point of VDH being grounded and able to see clearly. He lives out there in normal land while everyone else at NR lives in DC. Victor knows what is going on and how ordinary people still work and feel while the others never did.

Maybe it's a blessing in disguise that Trump or DeSantis would have nobody in DC to appoint to work for him. Appoint from the regions.

DC should not be a permanent home for anybody, there should be complete change of inhabitants at least every four years if not every two. Nobody should be buying property there.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (4cXAQ)

270 I used to read NR Online all the time 18-20 years ago. I e-mailed John Derbyshire a couple of times about aspects of a column he wrote, and he always replied. I think he was a really good guy, and look what they did to him.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:34 PM (vcOmj)
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I emailed him too, about some of his math puzzles! He always responded and we sometimes went back and forth. I liked his writing.

Posted by: bluebell at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (wyw4S)

271 Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 05, 2021 03:36 PM (iDcra)

Just like the definition of 'Conservative' has been changed by the MSM...

So has the definition of Liberal. Liberals USED to believe in Freedom... now they are Socialists.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (oHd/0)

272 > It is a very sad fact of life, yeah. But there are an AWFUL lot of Indian women who have vanished in that area and its something that has been basically ignored, particularly by the press. At least some of them are victims of murder.

There's a lot going on aside from "brown woman, don't care." You also have an often insular group, a very complex interaction of federal state and tribal laws/rules, the trickiness of dealing with people who don't trust LEOs, as well as a nasty shithole of a federal agency called the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Those guys make the TSA look like an army of Sherlock Holmeses crossed with a doting mother.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (YYlyE)

273 I think "National Review" was founded to get ideas into circulation. The target was never 'New York City based liberal intellectuals'. The target was politicians and businessmen whose political outlook remained protean and could be persuaded and persuade others. The target was also the residue of persuadable dissidents in academe. The Republican Party and the country club set suffered a programmatic and ideological confusion rather more severe then than now.

Hanson does not provide any insight in this interview into what makes the NR crowd tick. The pseudonymous Neo-Neocon, who is personally acquainted with Wm. Kristol, had to admit some years back that what was motivating him was to her a puzzle she could not solve. The description he offers sounds like Dan McLaughlin ("Baseball Crank"), but not Ramesh Ponnuru.

He's too polite to point something else out about the NR crowd, the Bulwark, the Dispatch, Ross Douthat &c. They're now financially dependent on liberal patrons. I don't think that was the case 10 years ago. (You could say George Will and David Frum are, but these two are too wealthy to be bought).

Posted by: Art Deco at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (1BrBu)

274 I never understood why Florence King stayed around as long as she did.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 05, 2021 03:36 PM (2JVJo)

She was strange, and in her own way a big believer in tradition.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (csEWM)

275 NR was always something that you read because they had authors you liked. Florence King, VDH, Derbyshire


D. Keith Mano

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (i9ZF7)

276 This was what my last comment was referring to

who wasn't banned at lgf

Posted by: memin_pinguin at October 05, 2021 03:18 PM (oSX/P)

Me. Of course, I only posted a handful of comments before Chuckie spazzed out.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:23 PM (IN5Dl)

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (y7DUB)

277 NR was always something that you read because they had authors you liked/i]

Back in the early 90s I had a sub but I soon discovered that I was not reading any of the pieces. I let it lapse because it was pointless. NRO was pretty good for a while, because it was quick hits I could read while doing something else. But even their best stuff was derivative. Goldberg would do a nice summation of other people's best bits in a week, but why get it second hand? Plus he didn't give them credit, as is is wont.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (KZzsI)

278 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:35 PM (KZzsI)

Lotta people say that. Even if he is playing a role at least he advances the ball down the field

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (YglAn)

279 259 I self banned on lgf
Posted by: CN at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (ONvIw)

Doesn't count. To claim the prize you need to have pissed the fat little cum guzzler off.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (o2MD2)

280 I was a The Corner junkie back in the day. But that was in the Golden Age of Derbyshire, Steyn and even Jonah, who was in his Liberal Fascism phase. Sigh...

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 05, 2021 03:39 PM (HmZuC)

281 Once Mr Smoove jazz lost his mind I just quietly left.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at October 05, 2021 03:37 PM (y7DUB)

I went there once to see what all the hubbub here was about and to check if it was a real blog.

Posted by: flounder at October 05, 2021 03:39 PM (KnJdm)

282 Concerning VDB and NR, that reminds me of an old story told about the Chicago Cubs in the 1920s. In those days, they were really good, and they were managed by Joe McCarthy, who later managed the great Yankees teams in the late '20s and '30s. McCarthy was known as a martinet: his players had to behave themselves, and that included wearing coats and ties to meals during spring training. Well, during the off-season the Cubs traded for Rogers Hornsby, who was a free spirit: he didn't drink, but he did play the horses, and nobody had ever seen him wear a tie. On the first day of spring training, the sportswriters were wondering how McCarthy and Hornsby would get along; when McCarthy comes down for breakfast - and he's not wearing a tie, and he's not wearing a jacket. The sportswriters started kidding him about it, to which he replied, "Boys, any manager who can't get along with a .400 hitter is nuts!"

VDH is the intellectual equivalent of a .400 hitter. And NR's editors couldn't get along with him. Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Nemo at October 05, 2021 03:39 PM (S6ArX)

283 I self banned on lgf
Posted by: CN


Clever. Ahead of the curve, you are.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:39 PM (vcOmj)

284 The thing is, all of these assholes are trading on glory from long ago and in many cases earned by others.

***

Like the sad Bar Fly decades past her prime sitting alone at the end of the bar...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 05, 2021 03:39 PM (flINI)

285 Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (4cXAQ)

VDH is a Farmer. The ONLY Farmers I've met who are Liberal? Are the Greenies who do it for a couple of years before they go bankrupt.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 05, 2021 03:39 PM (oHd/0)

286
VDH is one of the only public figures in America who shouldn't be thrown in a glass grinder feet first.

Hearing that fat dullard Williamson savaging him in the Atlantic was surreal. It's like hearing Gilbert Gottfried say "Rodney Dangerfield is a lousy comic."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 05, 2021 03:40 PM (cTqLg)

287 Like the sad Bar Fly decades past her prime sitting alone at the end of the bar...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 05, 2021 03:39 PM (flINI)

NR can be had for cheap drinks.

Posted by: flounder at October 05, 2021 03:40 PM (KnJdm)

288 Derbyshire could be prickly. But he didn't say anything about blacks that blacks don't say with complete impunity about whites. Lots of people are very comfortable with the right kind of racism.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 05, 2021 03:40 PM (QU5/8)

289 I have a bad feeling about National Review ever since they put out a whole issue condemning Trump. When Victor David Hansen left I knew I finally got it right. I knew reading Ace would eventually pay off.

Posted by: margie hailey at October 05, 2021 03:40 PM (zQYCi)

290 I'd love to know how many family reunions in Texas that Kevin Williamson has attended in the last decade or two.

I'm guessing he's about as much fun to his extended family as dysentery is to an orgy.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 05, 2021 03:41 PM (PzEuz)

291 I should say, I liked his style of writing. I certainly didn't agree with everything he said. But I always enjoyed his math posts (nerd, yes yes yes I know).

(Derbyshire)

Posted by: bluebell at October 05, 2021 03:41 PM (wyw4S)

292 the trickiness of dealing with people who don't trust LEOs, as well as a nasty shithole of a federal agency called the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

Yeah well their distrust and even hate of feds, law enforcement, and government is well-learned and justified. They've been crapped on for three centuries by people claiming to be there to help them.

But hey, you throw money at em and they'll fill out ballots for you just the same.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:41 PM (KZzsI)

293 >>Although who knows. I get a strong whiff of shyster from Tucker. A man playing a role.


I think like all tv hosts, there's an element of entertainment, and he consciously entertains.

However, it's been interesting how lately he's been pulling stories from the some of the most hated areas of the non-progressive web and making them hot topics, such as the color revolution and J6 stuff w/Darren beattie an Julie Kelly, the CRT stuff with Christopher Rufo, as well as interviews with people like Curis Yarvin and Rose McGowan. He's exposing his audience to a lot of ideas and stories that would be otherwise completely unknown to them.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2021 03:41 PM (bDqIh)

294 Aflak!

Posted by: memin_pinguin at October 05, 2021 03:41 PM (oSX/P)

295 Heather Long
@byHeatherLong
President Biden's claim that his spending plan "costs zero dollars" gets 2 Pinocchios from The Washington Post fact checker

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I guess we're suffering from a Pinocchio shortage.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 05, 2021 03:42 PM (d9FiS)

296 Cato the Elders flounce was legendary. He forcefully told Chunk to "Do IT!" and he was never heard from again. Watching that slow motion train wreck was entertaining as hell.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 05, 2021 03:42 PM (flINI)

297 My phone has balloon knot recognition technology. They are like fingerprints.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 05, 2021 03:04 PM (Y5qcH)


My husband once had to sit through a briefing on security measures against terrorism, and how retinal scanning was going to be introduced for high-security areas. Unfortunately, the lady giving the talk had a foreign accent, and "retinal" came out more like "rectal". This led to Dean coming up with lots of hilarious scenarios of trapping terrorists in a men's room stall, where a huge bright light would emerge from below the suspect as he sat, and a voice would chant soporifically, "Please insert paper in auto feeder." No two are alike, after all.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at October 05, 2021 03:43 PM (nrTzw)

298 It's getting to be about that time...

What's for dinner tonight?

I'm thinking - Broasted Chicken. From an authorized Broasted Chicken outlet. None of that fake shit for me.

Sometimes, you have to leave politics behind and concentrate on what's going to make you happy in the few hours.

Posted by: jwest at October 05, 2021 03:43 PM (/BlEx)

299 295 Bidenflation has made Pinocchios very expensive...

Posted by: steevy at October 05, 2021 03:43 PM (CYnTg)

300 Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 05, 2021 03:40 PM (QU5/

*ponders*

Yeah. Not entirely wrong.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 05, 2021 03:43 PM (YglAn)

301 So has the definition of Liberal. Liberals USED to believe in Freedom... now they are Socialists.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (oHd/0)

If you mean tyrants then I concur... hey wait a minute.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 05, 2021 03:43 PM (iDcra)

302 Lotta people say that. Even if he is playing a role at least he advances the ball down the field

Yeah he's useful, whatever his true nature or what he means to accomplish.

VDH is a Farmer. The ONLY Farmers I've met who are Liberal? Are the Greenies who do it for a couple of years before they go bankrupt.

Yes and no. They are largely right leaning patriots but when it comes to certain issues they turn into the most raving socialist that has ever lived (like conservatives who go on social security). Ask a farmer about subsidies and they turn into Karl Marx.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:43 PM (KZzsI)

303
Concerning VDB and NR, that reminds me of an old story told about the Chicago Cubs in the 1920s. In those days, they were really good, and they were managed by Joe McCarthy, who later managed the great Yankees teams in the late '20s and '30s.

__________

Joe McCarthy also had to manage notable boozer Hack Wilson. One day he called Hack into his office. He got a glass of water and put a worm in it, which promptly swam about. Then he put a worm in a glass of whiskey, where it promptly died. "So what can you conclude from this?" McCarthy asked. Wilson replied, "If I drink enough I won't get worms."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2021 03:44 PM (/U27+)

304 If you want to see how being a ward of the state works out the American Indian is a prime example. They used to be a proud and fierce people. Now they whine about their image being used by the NFL being racist. Crybabies, just like the NFL.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:44 PM (o2MD2)

305 Its really disheartening how modern "post-Trump" Conservatism really doesn't have any big platforms, publications, institutions, writers, etc.

The entire conservative establishment that had been built over several generations is now essentially running plays for the Left.

I know much of it was a grift, but I have to admit I almost miss the "blue pill" Dubya era when we felt like we had our own army.

Something needs to be built back in its place, we're so disorganized, it just feels like there's a few Twitter handles basically in charge of modern conservatism.

Posted by: Blago at October 05, 2021 03:44 PM (Mh8ci)

306 302 VDH is a Farmer. The ONLY Farmers I've met who are Liberal? Are the Greenies who do it for a couple of years before they go bankrupt.

Yes and no. They are largely right leaning patriots but when it comes to certain issues they turn into the most raving socialist that has ever lived (like conservatives who go on social security). Ask a farmer about subsidies and they turn into Karl Marx.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:43 PM (KZzsI)

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It should be mentioned that Ted Cruz won the Iowa caucuses in 2016 after having explicitly promised to end ethanol subsidies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

307 I wasn't banned at LGF. I saw the writing on the wall and bailed just before the wholesale purging began. What lead to the HQ was a long forgotten comment on Dave Barry's blog back when he was live blogging the TV show 24.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 05, 2021 03:44 PM (68WvR)

308 I didn't spend much time at LGF. I do remember he had a regular feature that went something like this:

He'd show a news-gathered picture of a car that had been blown up somewhere in the middle east. It would be surrounded by people who had whipped themselves into a frenzy, rubbed the deceased blood and entrails on themselves, and were fanatically waving their arms, dancing, yelling, etc.

The AP written headline would be something like, "Local Afghans Inspect the Damage Following Car Bombing".

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:45 PM (YYlyE)

309 The commies change their name on a rotation. Liberals become progressives become something else as they tarnish the name and have to change to get people on board.

It's always the same, control.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:45 PM (csEWM)

310 Don't even get me started on them running off John Derbyshire and present-day race relations.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (PzEuz)


I thought giving Derb the bum's rush was a rum go, but then I noticed that it was Jonah Goldberg who was applauding the loudest. I think that was when I first began to be disillusioned with NRO.

Because Derbyshire wasn't saying anything wrong. He was just quoting facts. But it was something that the NRO editors wanted to hear.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:45 PM (IN5Dl)

311 Who can forget those stunning photos of a ten speed bike wheel at LGF?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 05, 2021 03:46 PM (iDcra)

312 VDH is a Farmer. The ONLY Farmers I've met who are Liberal?
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 05, 2021 03:39 PM (oHd/0)

So he knows a thing or two cos he's seen a thing or two?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 05, 2021 03:46 PM (dfRN6)

313 Just like the definition of 'Conservative' has been changed by the MSM...
So has the definition of Liberal. Liberals USED to believe in Freedom... now they are Socialists.
Posted by: Romeo13

Hence, my nic.
I honestly have no idea what "Conservative" is supposed to mean sometimes, as we get bamboozled CONSTANTLY by shitty politicians who are supposedly conservative.

1) The Constitution. It's real and magnificent. Read it, use it, apply it always.
2) keep the Federal budget balanced, or close to it. We are a train wreck now, because spending is madly insane. It will ruin the country, sooner than you think. Oops, that already happened!
3) Read the 10th Amendment....AGAIN. IT has as much weight as any of the other parts of the Bill of Rights. But it is studiously ignored because it gets in the way of the corporatist oligarchy that has been foisted on all of us.
4) What we do policy-wise is up to the President and Congress, that's what they are elected to do. If I disagree with policy...well, there's the next election to try and fix that.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:46 PM (vcOmj)

314 Victor Davis Hansen is one of the last great thinkers in America, and a scholar of the first order. Anyone attacking or pushing him out is someone who should be viewed with at best great skepticism.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:47 PM (KZzsI)

315 I thought giving Derb the bum's rush was a rum go, but then I noticed that it was Jonah Goldberg who was applauding the loudest. I think that was when I first began to be disillusioned with NRO.

Because Derbyshire wasn't saying anything wrong. He was just quoting facts. But it was something that the NRO editors wanted to hear.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:45 PM (IN5Dl)

He made the unforgiveable sin of being more popular that Jonah Donut Fucker.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:47 PM (csEWM)

316 Don't even get me started on them running off John Derbyshire and present-day race relations.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 05, 2021 03:31 PM (PzEuz)

I thought giving Derb the bum's rush was a rum go, but then I noticed that it was Jonah Goldberg who was applauding the loudest. I think that was when I first began to be disillusioned with NRO.

Because Derbyshire wasn't saying anything wrong. He was just quoting facts. But it was something that the NRO editors wanted to hear.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:45 PM (IN5Dl)

Their treatment of Derb was one shoe dropping for me. When it was clear they weren't going to fight against gay marriage, that was the other shoe. Left NRO, NR, The Corner...all of it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 05, 2021 03:47 PM (XvPQV)

317 I wasn't banned at LGF. I saw the writing on the wall and bailed just before the wholesale purging began.

What lead to the HQ was a long forgotten comment on Dave Barry's blog back when he was live blogging the TV show 24.
Posted by: Beartooth


I got the Ace of Spades HQ confused with Flopping Aces. Read both for awhile. FA was once in a while post while AoSHQ was hourly. That was around 2007 sometime.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:47 PM (OCTRt)

318 304 If you want to see how being a ward of the state works out the American Indian is a prime example. They used to be a proud and fierce people. Now they whine about their image being used by the NFL being racist. Crybabies, just like the NFL.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:44 PM (o2MD2)


They do? I thought it was mainly upper class white progressives who whined about sports mascots.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:47 PM (IN5Dl)

319 It sounds as if VDH was trying to say what he really thought of them without saying what he really thought of them.

Posted by: abbynormal at October 05, 2021 03:48 PM (Xpj5t)

320
Because Derbyshire wasn't saying anything wrong. He was just quoting facts. But it was something that the NRO editors wanted to hear.
Posted by: OregonMuse,


Not to be pedantic, but Derb was parodying some blacktivist's screed about teaching his kids to avoid cops and whites. It was a clear and obvious parody, but mocking his Betters wasn't allow by the boot-licks and beltway courtesans of NRO.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2021 03:48 PM (1t5dY)

321 311or CJ in his polka dot dress

Posted by: CN at October 05, 2021 03:48 PM (ONvIw)

322 Our prayers are with the families of the missing NR writers, and we hope they are found soon safe and well.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2021 03:48 PM (/bNwY)

323 NRO yanked down the Nicholas Frankovich "spit on
the cross" article, but the Internet is forever:
https://bit.ly/2AQFzPp

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 05, 2021 03:48 PM (Agr8U)

324 308 I didn't spend much time at LGF. I do remember he had a regular feature that went something like this:

****

Hey, let's not gloss over all of those photos of the beach and ocean he took all the time that had all of the artistic value of the back of a cereal box.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 05, 2021 03:48 PM (PzEuz)

325 It should be mentioned that Ted Cruz won the Iowa caucuses in 2016 after having explicitly promised to end ethanol subsidies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
___

Wasn't it something though like "in 30 years, I promise an end to farm subsidies!" It was some date in the future past even 2 terms as President.

Almost like some CA politician promising all electric cars and making a law when they're comfortably out of office.

Posted by: Blago at October 05, 2021 03:48 PM (Mh8ci)

326 He's kind of like a Shane or Magnificent Seven or High Noon, he's a gunslinger we hired and we are the townspeople that are impotent and he came in with certain skills. And he started to have success and now we have the luxury of saying we don't like the fact that he has a six-gun. But he has to ride off into the sunset.

This may be the best explanation of Trump and the NeverTrumper dynamics I've ever read.

Except it's a bit like the rich town folk shoo-off Shane half-way thru the movie and elect Jack Palance as mayor and he spends the rest of the movie burning down the town and sniffing their daughter's hair.

VDH sees clearly, he does.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 05, 2021 03:49 PM (Xo5lP)

327 Ladies and Gentlemen, your next Nobel prize winner:

@MrAndyNgo 4h

Portland city council member & BLM activist @JoAnnPDX
has proposed installing more traffic cones in response to the city's record shootings and homicides. She says it may lessen likelihood of deadly shootings if drivers are slowed down.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2021 03:49 PM (1t5dY)

328 Anyway, it was pretty clear that when the Bush term ended, LGF was moving on to Obama and closed the door on Islamist terror.

Posted by: CN at October 05, 2021 03:49 PM (ONvIw)

329 Sundowner's 0 $3.5T spending will cost Leftists 0, everyone else $3.5T

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2021 03:49 PM (2JoB8)

330 305 Its really disheartening how modern "post-Trump" Conservatism really doesn't have any big platforms, publications, institutions, writers, etc.

The entire conservative establishment that had been built over several generations is now essentially running plays for the Left.

I know much of it was a grift, but I have to admit I almost miss the "blue pill" Dubya era when we felt like we had our own army.

Something needs to be built back in its place, we're so disorganized, it just feels like there's a few Twitter handles basically in charge of modern conservatism.
Posted by: Blago at October 05, 2021 03:44 PM (Mh8ci)

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O'Sullivan's Law taken to it's final conclusion, sadly and suicidally for the country and for those of us who loved it.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at October 05, 2021 03:49 PM (bbNp6)

331 The early to mid 2000s were a glorious period for blogging and conservatism but too many great minds and lights of that time went dim and stupid when they began to lose popularity. Honestly I think a lot of them were scared into temporarily being against the left not out of ideology but because the left seemed to support, defend, and promote Islamic terrorism and 9/11 scared the piss out of a lot of people, particularly New Yorkers who felt invulnerable and all powerful.

When that started to wear off and they started being shunned for having Bad Thoughts, a bunch of people like Ed Morrissey who were brilliant writers began to turn stupid.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:50 PM (KZzsI)

332 319 It sounds as if VDH was trying to say what he really thought of them without saying what he really thought of them.
Posted by: abbynormal at October 05, 2021 03:48 PM (Xpj5t)

It's very WASPy when you think about it.

I wonder if that is the root of their antipathy of Trump... kind of like Caesar or FDR- he is a traitor to his class. (I do not necessarily agree on FDR on that point, just he is often seen to be that.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:50 PM (csEWM)

333 national suicide by mass immigration is this decade's national suicide by unilateral disarmament. Fucking commies, every few years get it up their ass to act out about the dumbest shit possible.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 05, 2021 03:50 PM (ZZK0E)

334 Jay Nordlinger also took a shot at the Covington kids, memorialized by Mark Steyn: https://www.steynonline.com/9148/the-drumbeat-of-the-mob

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 05, 2021 03:50 PM (Agr8U)

335 When it was clear they weren't going to fight against gay marriage, that was the other shoe. Left NRO, NR, The Corner...all of it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 05, 2021 03:47 PM (XvPQV)
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I remember reading the paen to gay marriage (I think it was by Jason Whatshiscan who was some sort of editor who didn't regularly write for them) and noticing the accompanying pictures of cherubs and thinking WHAT THE HELL.

Posted by: bluebell at October 05, 2021 03:51 PM (wyw4S)

336 Sundowner's 0 $3.5T spending will cost Leftists 0, everyone else $3.5T
Posted by: Skip


Anyone who thinks the $3.5T spending bill will cost zero, is a dumb as they think you are.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:51 PM (OCTRt)

337 Joe Biden shares a story about his grand-pappy.

https://bit.ly/3lbIbyM

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:51 PM (YYlyE)

338 333 national suicide by mass immigration is this decade's national suicide by unilateral disarmament. Fucking commies, every few years get it up their ass to act out about the dumbest shit possible.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 05, 2021 03:50 PM (ZZK0E)

Don't forget climate change.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:51 PM (csEWM)

339 @MrAndyNgo
Portland city council member & BLM activist @JoAnnPDX
has proposed installing more traffic cones in response to the city's record shootings and homicides. She says it may lessen likelihood of deadly shootings if drivers are slowed down.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2021 03:49 PM (1t5dY)
++++
Huh?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:51 PM (+IIqY)

340 I did, however, keep an LGF t-shirt.

Posted by: CN at October 05, 2021 03:51 PM (ONvIw)

341 And Juan Williams was canned at NPR because he said he would cross the street to avoid passing a big back dude on the sidewalk.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at October 05, 2021 03:51 PM (xopIz)

342 > Anyone who thinks the $3.5T spending bill will cost zero, is a dumb as they think you are.

It's an investment. Everyone knows investments always break even or something.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:52 PM (YYlyE)

343 FUCK JOE BIDEN

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at October 05, 2021 03:52 PM (Tr9jL)

344 Ladies and Gentlemen, your next Nobel prize winner:

@MrAndyNgo 4h

Portland city council member & BLM activist @JoAnnPDX
has proposed installing more traffic cones in response to the city's record shootings and homicides. She says it may lessen likelihood of deadly shootings if drivers are slowed down.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

They start with first degree murder but, before you know it, they're exceeding the speed limit and jaywalking.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 05, 2021 03:52 PM (d9FiS)

345 Sometimes, you have to leave politics behind and concentrate on what's going to make you happy in the few hours.
Posted by: jwest at October 05, 2021 03:43 PM (/BlEx)


**ponders**

I know what would make me happy. I also know there's no chance at all of my getting it.

Perhaps I can get out of work early enough to drink.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 05, 2021 03:52 PM (2JVJo)

346 Anyone who thinks the $3.5T spending bill will cost zero, is a dumb as they think you are.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 05, 2021 03:51 PM (OCTRt)

They don't have to believe it, they know everyone will flack for them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:52 PM (csEWM)

347 This is a logical fallacy so take it as you will, but I know quite a few local Indians and not a one of them gives a tinker's dam about sports mascots or being called an Indian.

White girls with MRS degrees do, though. They feel all the outrage that actual "victims" they invent fail to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:52 PM (KZzsI)

348 What is really great about the HQ is I got into some fiery arguments with Ace and he never banned me. I did get banned by Gabriel Malor though, for I don't know what.

Thanks to CBD (and the lardass on the ottoman) I got unbanned

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:53 PM (o2MD2)

349 MrAndyNgo
Portland city council member & BLM activist @JoAnnPDX
has proposed installing more traffic cones in response to the city's record shootings and homicides. She says it may lessen likelihood of deadly shootings if drivers are slowed down.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2021 03:49 PM (1t5dY)
++++
Huh?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:51 PM (+IIqY)


Ever hit a cone? It makes a loud sound and sometimes it gets stuck in your wheel well. Of course gang bangers aren't going to hit cones in their low-riders with 23" rims.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2021 03:53 PM (YYlyE)

350 Joe Biden shares a story about his grand-pappy

Was that the one who owned slaves?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:54 PM (KZzsI)

351 348 What is really great about the HQ is I got into some fiery arguments with Ace and he never banned me. I did get banned by Gabriel Malor though, for I don't know what.

Thanks to CBD (and the lardass on the ottoman) I got unbanned
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 05, 2021 03:53 PM (o2MD2)

========

I think CBD almost banned me once because I accidentally copied and pasted the whole thread twice.

In the same day.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:54 PM (LvTSG)

352
biden the illegitimate cocksucker will be greeted with lots of "Let's Go Brandon" "cheers" in Michigan. Check it out:

https://youtu.be/vuOYD-neo90

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 05, 2021 03:54 PM (JOgHK)

353 Derbyshire could be prickly. But he didn't say anything about blacks that blacks don't say with complete impunity about whites. Lots of people are very comfortable with the right kind of racism.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

John Derbyshire's wife is ethnic Chinese. His kids are biracial. I don't think he was ever "racist". The column in question brings up a whole set of assumptions that a LOT of people think but don't say out loud. I have a fair number of African American friends. They are all different. Some I trust more than others.
I also have know AA folks I wouldn't trust at all.
My son is married to an African American woman. My beloved grandson is mixed race.

I think a lot of African Americans are broadly misunderstood by White folks. I don't say that to be hostile, just I can get along with most people if they don't threaten me. I've been more "threatened" by White people (some I knew!) than by Black people. But as a white man, it can be a little itchy moving through a group of "young" black men, late at night.
Some years ago, I was at a function in Downtown Detroit, that was predominantly Black. Felt perfectly safe.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:54 PM (vcOmj)

354 D. Keith Mano

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 05, 2021 03:38 PM (i9ZF7)


I remember him! Also their movie critic John Simon, what hated literally *every* movie except for one or two obscure subtitled European films.

Guys used to write to the NR editor saying you should really think about hiring a critic who actually likes movies...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at October 05, 2021 03:54 PM (IN5Dl)

355 I think CBD almost banned me once because I accidentally copied and pasted the whole thread twice.

In the same day.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 05, 2021 03:54 PM (LvTSG)

Sure. 'Accidently'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:54 PM (csEWM)

356 Jay Nordlinger also took a shot at the Covington kids, memorialized by Mark Steyn: https://www.steynonline.com/9148/the-drumbeat-of-the-mob
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 05, 2021 03:50 PM (Agr8U)

You could practically smell the billionaire jism on Nordlinger's face reading his Davos articles. He gave the term suck up a whole new meaning.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 05, 2021 03:54 PM (68WvR)

357
@MrAndyNgo 4h

Portland city council member & BLM activist @JoAnnPDX
has proposed installing more traffic cones in response to the city's record shootings and homicides. She says it may lessen likelihood of deadly shootings if drivers are slowed down.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

They start with first degree murder but, before you know it, they're exceeding the speed limit and jaywalking.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 05, 2021 03:52 PM (d9FiS)

And I would've gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for you meddling traffic cones!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 05, 2021 03:55 PM (KbCG3)

358
Did I not tell you that public schools are Madrasas, now, or what?

And the Mullahs and Imams at the FBI/DOJ are protecting their Madrasas.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 05, 2021 03:55 PM (JOgHK)

359 #FuckJoeBiden

Posted by: Boomer Redneque at October 05, 2021 03:56 PM (Lit6A)

360 >>NRO yanked down the Nicholas Frankovich "spit on
the cross" article, but the Internet is forever:

Let's not forget that their own Chad Felix Greene (unironically) wrote a serious "case for conservatives to embrace thansgenders" piece, and IIRC, Greene is trans.

I mean, even Andrew freakin' Sullivan has come out stronger and more reasoned than NR re: stopping trans activism.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2021 03:56 PM (bDqIh)

361 Anyone who thinks the $3.5T spending bill will cost zero, is a dumb as they think you are.

--

I would like these people to actually name one thing in the bill. And then explain why it has to be lumped in with everything else.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 05, 2021 03:56 PM (ZZK0E)

362 You could practically smell the billionaire jism on Nordlinger's face reading his Davos articles. He gave the term suck up off a whole new it's original meaning.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 05, 2021 03:54 PM (68WvR)
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FIFY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:56 PM (+IIqY)

363 Nood Sinema.

Posted by: flounder at October 05, 2021 03:56 PM (KnJdm)

364 MrAndyNgo
Portland city council member & BLM activist @JoAnnPDX
has proposed installing more traffic cones in response to the city's record shootings and homicides. She says it may lessen likelihood of deadly shootings if drivers are slowed down.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2021 03:49 PM (1t5dY)
++++
Huh?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 05, 2021 03:51 PM (+IIqY)

+++
I would think it would be just the opposite - slowing down cars would allow the perp to get a good aim goin'.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 05, 2021 03:56 PM (lVNNH)

365 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2021 03:56 PM (csEWM)

366 You could practically smell the billionaire jism on Nordlinger's face reading his Davos articles. He gave the term suck up a whole new meaning.
Posted by: Beartooth


Yes, he is a rather repulsive arrogant elitist suck up.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at October 05, 2021 03:57 PM (vcOmj)

367 -
"case for conservatives to embrace thansgenders" -
-
-------

Let me guess. They fuck turkeys.

Posted by: irright at October 05, 2021 03:57 PM (SchQD)

368 >>>biden the illegitimate cocksucker will be greeted with lots of "Let's Go Brandon" "cheers" in Michigan. Check it out:

https://youtu.be/vuOYD-neo90
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 05, 2021 03:54 PM (JOgHK)

=======

But 81 million votes.

Posted by: I got nothin' at October 05, 2021 03:57 PM (jPtGI)

369 Some years ago, I was at a function in Downtown Detroit, that was predominantly Black. Felt perfectly safe.

It depends. I mean there are groups of white dudes I would be super nervous about being with, like meth dealing hicks from the hollars or the Lincoln Man Boy Love Association. Meanwhile, I went to a party full of guys from Sierra Leone (legal immigrants) and the only thing that frightened me was the excessively hot food.

You think Mexican food is hot. You think Thai food is hot. Then there's Africa hot.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:58 PM (KZzsI)

370 I'm seeing the idea of the trillion dollar coin is popping up again.

Like, how do these dipshits think this works? The Mint prints a coin. Then what, do they walk across the street and hand it to Chuck Schumer? Ok, then what? Do we go to the local check cashing store to get change?

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 05, 2021 03:58 PM (ZZK0E)

371

It wasn't that long ago that National Review had some rigor in their journalism.

When they got rid of the Derb, I stopped with them and saw how they weren't really what I thought they were.

Then Goldturd the Bloated did his part to destroy their credibility...

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at October 05, 2021 03:58 PM (4WPW/)

372 Ace emailed me in 2008 about a month before the election and told me take a self imposed time-out. I was ragging on McCain and how he was going to lose constantly. I've stayed away from the Presidential election threads ever since.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 05, 2021 03:58 PM (4thlk)

373
Makes you wonder if biden-the-surrendering-invalid-dictator is in a "room" set up with props like he had for his fake "booster shot," or he just fucked up (again).

https://youtu.be/SObPY5sDSPY

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 05, 2021 03:58 PM (JOgHK)

374 this is not how a country gets to be a first world nation. This is gutter third world shit. We have abandoned our ideals and history while at the same time chanting we're a nation of ideas. yeah, banned ideas, burned books, and defaced statues.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 05, 2021 03:58 PM (ZZK0E)

375 Tasted good though. I dunno the spices they use but those Sierra Leone women can COOK. Super nice, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:59 PM (KZzsI)

376 Oh yeah, slow down the cars doing drive by shooting and see the body count rise. It would be better for mandatory 60mph in free fire zones.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2021 03:59 PM (2JoB8)

377 There was a certain magic back in the golden days of early conservative web blogging - A feeling that finally there was an outlet for truth and right wing humor.

Jeff Goldstein at Protein Wisdom. Tom Maguire at Just One Minute and of course, Ace.

Does anyone remember who did the sock puppet comic strip about Glenn Greenwald?

Posted by: jwest at October 05, 2021 04:00 PM (/BlEx)

378 "But I wish them all good luck in their future careers."

We differ in that regard.

Posted by: Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow at October 05, 2021 04:00 PM (KX4VP)

379 Portland city council member & BLM activist @JoAnnPDX
has proposed installing more traffic cones in response to the city's record shootings and homicides. She says it may lessen likelihood of deadly shootings if drivers are slowed down.

Forgot to say "Not The Bee."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 05, 2021 04:01 PM (iDcra)

380

nood cocksucker fade "moderate"

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 05, 2021 04:01 PM (JOgHK)

381 Ask a farmer about subsidies and they turn into Karl Marx.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 05, 2021 03:43 PM (KZzsI)


My wife's cousin's husband, a very successful Iowa farmer (helping him with chores was a breeze because he was so well organized), was very matter of fact about farmers playing the subsidy system.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at October 05, 2021 04:09 PM (y7DUB)

382 50 NR likes to pretend the DOJ is about Justice, that the BLM/Antifa crowd are mostly peaceful organic social movements staffed by volunteers, that shooting baseball-playing Congressmen was a one-off, and nobody knows why the Vegas massacre happened. School Boards need protection from parent opinions. Citizens aren't allowed in the Capital, and nobody is a political prisoner in America. BigTech is our friend.

-----

You obviously don't read National Review. None of this is true. I read NR and Ace daily. On all the topics you just listed, my guess NR actually agrees with your position in principle, if not in the particulars.

Posted by: Lucas at October 05, 2021 04:10 PM (snY0J)

383 Tom Maguire at Just One Minute

Much more lib than his commenters.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at October 05, 2021 04:11 PM (y7DUB)

384 VDH has been an outlier at NR ever since it ran its infamous "Against Trump" issue in 2016. However, he had a contract with NR and as a man of integrity, felt obligated to fulfill his obligations.

Posted by: Darwin Akbar at October 05, 2021 04:12 PM (mEBMr)

385 I am not the fan boy type (I swear) but I once drove 2 hours to go to a VDH lecture and get him to sign my copy of Carnage and Culture. (back when I read actual paper books)

Posted by: tmitsss at October 05, 2021 04:31 PM (f/L+y)

386 The problem with ejecting Derbyshire is that they had been quite tolerant of him when he published a piece in the "New English Review" trashing a book by Ramesh Ponnuru and savaging the Right-to-Life movement. Then when he publishes a piece in "Taki's" which consists mostly of an inventory of things prudent people navigating inner-city environments do (the exception being his gassing about Intelligent Well Socialized Blacks) and is at worst mildly disrespectful, he's cut from the masthead immediately. That tells you that Richard Lowry doesn't care about the sensibilities of readers of a sort thin on the ground where he was living in Manhattan.

Posted by: Art Deco at October 05, 2021 04:47 PM (1BrBu)

387 A couple of years later, Mark Steyn left the publication. Like Derbyshire, he was a contributor, not an employee. The occasion was a column where he noted that a mild joke uttered by Dean Martin on television ca. 1970 could no longer be uttered in public fora generally. This led to a public bust up with Jason Lee Steorts, the 'managing editor', who was permitted to cut Steyn from the list of contributors (after publishing an insipid and humorless complaint). I'm fascinated to know what Steorts has on Lowry that Lowry would allow him to cut the publication's most talented voice. NB, Steorts , Harvard '03, is a bachelor living in suburban Salt Lake City, telecommuting.

Posted by: Art Deco at October 05, 2021 04:50 PM (1BrBu)

388 Only reason I haven't cancelled my subscription to NR yet is because they still run the occasional article by Joseph Epstein. Once they stop publishing him too, I'm outta there.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at October 05, 2021 04:52 PM (JzDjf)

389 VDH is wrong and has been wrong, for years, because he's still approaching this from the frame of "there are bad eggs in the GOP", when the entire GOP leadership structure and nearly all of the supporting self-proclaimed professional punditry is made up of sellouts of varying types.

We didn't get here because Trump made Mean Tweets, or because the GOPe wants cocktail party invites; they fucking sellouts and traitors, and many of them have ALWAYS been sellouts and traitors.

It's always hard for people to admit they were conned; we got conned. You see his reluctance in the "we condemn the riot, but.." Bullshit. The only thing wrong with that riot is that the venue and timing was a setup. He's desperately hanging onto a bunch of schoolhouse rock civics nonsense and refusing to address reality.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at October 05, 2021 04:52 PM (IN1nj)

390 Will Baseball Cuck write a long, tedious refutation of VDH? Or will he leave to the Dispatch crowed?

Posted by: Buckley Fan at October 05, 2021 05:10 PM (q4+4J)

391 Even VDH frowns on individuality and can't wait to group people into "classes". America is increasingly Marxist and it's not worth arguing otherwise.

Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at October 05, 2021 05:13 PM (CdZ4i)

392 Steorts and Frankovich of Covington fame have both thrived under the Lowry regime. They are being promoted!

Posted by: Buckley Fan at October 05, 2021 05:17 PM (q4+4J)

393 "Do you have a second (or a few seconds, a second of seconds, &c.!.)Victor Davis Hanson couldn't carry Jeanne Kirkpatrick's jockstrap. Or Jason Lee Steorts purse. OK ya'll. See you later." -- Jay Nordlinger

Posted by: occam's brassiere at October 05, 2021 06:18 PM (V8JPv)

394 The last article I read in NR was a snotty, sarcastic, immature rant about Trump toilets by Kevin Williamson. I cancelled my online subscription and Now come where It is at least authentic. RIP National Review.

Posted by: BigBoreCore at October 05, 2021 07:58 PM (Nyumu)

395 Or maybe all of conservatism is the right wing of neoliberalism. You've sat by peacefully while the rightful population of the US is replaced by violent dumb Third World garbage. And then you conduct endless discursions about how the future of the G.rand O.le P.inworm is black and brown voters. That's why cuckservative hurts so bad. This isn't just McCain and National Review, this is all conservatives.

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