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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 10-02-2021 [TheJamesMadison]
Who is James Bond?
James Bond is the secret agent character created by Ian Fleming in the novel Casino Royale, published in 1953. More famously, of course, he's the main character in a series of films starting in 1962 with Dr. No and, in a series of twenty-five official EON movies, will reach its newest installment, No Time to Die next Friday after a year of delays.
The character, in the official EON entries, has been played by six different actors: Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan, and Daniel Craig. Each actor brings something distinct from the others to the role, almost like they're playing different characters in each of the cinematic adventures. They share certain traits (job description, ease with women, ability to commit violence), but their portrayals are all very different from each other, creating distinct flavors of the same character.
Whenever I think of this question, I think of Todd Haynes' 2007 movie about Bob Dylan, I'm Not There, where Dylan is played by six different actors (Christian Bale, Cate Blanchett, Marcus Carl Franklin, Richard Gere, Heath Ledger, and Ben Whishaw), each playing different aspects of Dylan's personality. They're all Dylan, but they're all distinct as well, highlighting different aspects of his personality and public perception.
The Beginning
I'd had this post in my head for a while, but as I sat down to write it out I realized that there was a hole in my analysis: I had never read any of Ian Fleming's original Bond novels or stories. So, I partially remedied that by reading Casino Royale and For Your Eyes Only. If there exists a single, authoritative Bond, it has to be here. What's this Bond like? He's professional, intelligent, adaptable, single-minded, a killer, and completely unsentimental. The way he treats women (after Vesper Lynd, that is) is to view the few days of physical pleasure he experiences with them is interruptions between missions. He makes a pledge to never pursue a woman during a mission, and they're always kind of like a treat to be had after he completes his work.
Now, there are a dozen other books written by Fleming about the James Bond character, so my experience here is somewhat limited. However, I have seen every James Bond movie and written about all of them. Based on my more extensive experience with the movies, I'd say that there are definite differences in how closely each actor generally portrays the Bond character compared to the written version. Easily the furthest from the written Bond would be George Lazenby's take. He's simply too naive of a character to be the hardened professional who uses women as an outlet.
Interpretations
You see these kinds of arguments all around franchise movies. Usually about superheroes (because those tend to be the franchises that get rebooted with new actors in key roles), the argument centered around Bond seems to gain a more fervent emotional response from people than arguments about who makes the best Batman or Superman. In my viewings of the Bond films, I've come up with (hopefully) pithy ways that accurately reflect the general feel of how each actor portrays the central super spy.
Sean Connery was the predator. He was going to use every tool at his disposal to get to his target, including sex. Never wavering from his mission, he was willing to use anything to help him along.
George Lazenby was the innocent. He acted like he had never been on a mission before, coming straight out of a boys' school for spies and meeting danger with a waifish grin and the women like he had never touched one before, besmirched by their charms rather than the other way around.
Roger Moore was the Lothario. He acted like he got into the spy business to pick up chicks. Spycraft felt like a secondary motive to bedding the next woman on his adventures.
Timothy Dalton was the wild animal. He was angrier and more focused on violence than his predecessors, at least partially because MI6 kept disavowing him in his two movies. He had to operate alone, and he had to be vicious like that.
Pierce Brosnan was the gentleman. He always felt like he either was wearing a tux or had one underneath his outfit. He was the upper class man of good breeding who knew his wines as well as he knew his women and weapons.
Daniel Craig was the weapon. He was never going to just spy on his target. Violence was always going to be his end goal, even if he didn't intend it.
All six share traits across each other, but I think the above is a decent breakdown of how each actor approached the character. It's also not entirely consistent across films, such as Moore's near torture of Andrea Anders in The Man with the Golden Gun in order to receive information, an action that felt far more at home with Sean Connery's take than Moore's (done at the behest of the producer, which Moore refused to do again). Also, speaking of Connery, his portrayal in his first three films (Dr. No, Goldfinger, and From Russia with Love) is decided different from, in particular, his last official EON appearance in Diamonds are Forever when the franchise had already started moving in a sillier direction than the more grounded area Connery had begun the franchise in. He was less intense and more jokey than before in a movie that would have fit his successor, Moore, better than him.
Correct Interpretation
Who's correct, then? Which actor portrayed Bond "best"?
Is your criteria closeness to the Fleming version? In which case I'd say there's grounds for Connery or Craig's work in Casino Royale in particular. They have the combination of professional focus, suave execution, both ease with and disdain for women, as well as deadly purpose as I read in Fleming's work.
A lot of it really seems to come down to preferences, and that usually matches well with which Bond was in theaters during one's adolescence. For instance, if forced to choose a favorite for myself, I'd probably go with Brosnan. His films overall aren't my favorite (I love Goldeneye, but the rest...), but I like his gentlemanly portrayal. He exudes professionalism, charm, and competence, but at the same time he's just as good as someone like Connery, to say the least. It's kind of weird.
Then there are those who take their preferences to a rather absurd degree. "I like Connery, and everybody else has been nothing compared to Connery," Gene Siskel said in his review of Goldeneye, talking about Pierce Brosnan's performance as Bond. He saw nothing in the franchise past the first three movies in particular. There was little good to be said about Lazenby, Moore, or Dalton either. I mean, I can easily imagine having the preference of one Bond over another, but Siskel dismissed every other Bond for quite literally no other reason than the central performer wasn't Sean Connery. It blinded him to anything else in the films.
I don't recommend that kind of myopic view of the Bond franchise. There's a lot to like in the films, and they represent a fair number of types of entertainment. The Bond franchise has always been a producer driven series of films, and producer driven films tend to chase trends rather than set them themselves. That's why there's suddenly Kung Fu in The Man with the Golden Gun or the action in Casino Royale feels more at home in a Bourne movie than the Bond franchise. The Bond franchise itself represents the changing action mores over the decades, and that includes the actors.
Connery fits very firmly in the early 60s. He's masculine and sexual at once. Lazenby feels almost hippy-ish in his innocence. Moore, throughout the 70s, was a sexually mature man who lived freely. Dalton became dedicated to only one woman at a time in his films. Brosnan seemed to feel more deeply towards his women in the 90s (while also retaining a certain throwback quality that M calls out in Goldeneye). Craig changes a fair bit from Casino Royale, becoming a more sensitive man, especially towards the women, as his movies go through the 10s.
So, loaded question, which Bond is your favorite?
Movies of Today
Opening in Theaters:
No Time to Die
Movies I Saw This Fortnight:
3 Bad Men (Rating 4/4) Full Review "I ended up completely loving this film. It's a wonderful early work from Ford that shows all of his strengths as a director in a rough and tumble form." [YouTube]
The Ward (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "This was Carpenter really rediscovering his craft at the feature film length and doing a pretty decent job of it. It feels like a Carpenter film, and it's pretty okay. It could have used a rewrite to help things along, but it's honestly better than its reputation." [Library]
Andrei Rublev (Rating 4/4) Full Review "Andrei Rublev is an obviously deeply personal work on an incredibly grand scale. It's also a fascinating historical anomaly as an individualist finds a way to tell such a personal and religiously spiritual story in the middle of the collectivist oppression that was the Soviet Union." [Personal Collection]
Solaris (Rating 4/4) Full Review It's a dense, intelligent film that uses emotional storytelling to explore a more intellectual concept. It's also a film really designed for a certain set of cinematic tastebuds. Yes, it's science-fiction, but it's so far from what most people think of science fiction as to essentially be another genre." [Personal Collection]
Mirror (Rating 4/4) Full Review "Explicitly experimental in construction, it's the least accessible. However, I get swept up in it. The questions it raises, the strong performances, and the incredible aesthetics combine for an endlessly fascinating film experience that I really do enjoy." [Personal Collection]
Stalker (Rating 4/4) Full Review "There's something that cuts deeply and quietly about Stalker. Investing in the steady journey towards the Room ends up being incredibly rewarding intellectually and emotionally. It's a subtle and affecting film, that honestly never should have been made. However, since it was made, I do love it." [Personal Collection]
Nostlaghia (Rating 4/4) Full Review "Nostlaghia represents a further refinement of Tarkovsky's style after the chaos of the previous production, completely freed from the constraints of the Soviet bureaucracy, and still yearning for meaning." [Personal Collection]
The Sacrifice (Rating 4/4) Full Review "Many final films of great directors feel like the spent leavings of a great mind, but Tarkovsky went out swinging for the fences. His quiet ode to his cinematic hero, Ingmar Bergman, has a surprising life and vitality all its own that makes it truly shine in an already bright cinematic oeuvre. It's a beautiful movie that takes its time to fruit, but fruits beautifully nonetheless." [Personal Collection]
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Many of the movies are a waste of good film.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 02, 2021 06:55 PM (2oDLL)
Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2021 06:55 PM (2JoB8)
Moore wasn't James Bond, he was the Man From Uncle.
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 06:59 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: CppThis at October 02, 2021 06:59 PM (UewuT)
Or perhaps the television Batman (Adam West). His movies were just silly.
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:00 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 07:00 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 02, 2021 07:00 PM (kkeqW)
Posted by: JT at October 02, 2021 07:01 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 02, 2021 07:02 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 02, 2021 07:02 PM (/U27+)
Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2021 07:02 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Eric at October 02, 2021 07:02 PM (a2F+C)
Along with Woody Allen as "Jimmy Bond".
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 07:02 PM (5NkmN)
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:02 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: JT at October 02, 2021 07:03 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: CppThis at October 02, 2021 07:04 PM (UewuT)
Posted by: JT at October 02, 2021 07:04 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:04 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Blutarski at October 02, 2021 07:05 PM (9s7GK)
Craig, too, though IMO mostly in Casino Royale-- the continuing plot/arc produced a divergence.
That's one thing I find interesting of the pre-Craig Bond films-- there's not much continiuity, really-- at least after the first couple, each pretty standalone, to the point where there are debates about if they're supposed to be the same guy or if the series partially reboots every few movies, or what.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 02, 2021 07:05 PM (3hX1d)
Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2021 07:06 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 07:07 PM (kTF2Z)
No love for David Niven?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 02, 2021 07:02 PM (/U27+)
Heh
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:08 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Eric
The guy on First is a Doctor ?
Posted by: JT at October 02, 2021 07:04 PM (arJlL)
I can tell you the one I hate most...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:08 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 02, 2021 07:09 PM (3TihK)
What about Barry Nelson? He was the first actor to portray James Bond.
Posted by: Eric at October 02, 2021 07:09 PM (a2F+C)
So, his movie's bombed (relatively for a Bond flick) and he was out.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 07:09 PM (5NkmN)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 02, 2021 07:09 PM (63Dwl)
he eliminated enemies of the realm, and used drink and women to assuage his guilt, connery was probably too rough as bond, brosnan too polished, craig was just an operator with little real persuasive skills,
Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at October 02, 2021 07:09 PM (hMlTh)
Posted by: catostraster at October 02, 2021 07:10 PM (vWald)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 07:07 PM (kTF2Z)
I've not watched the movie, but from review, it sounds like they should have just gone whole hog and made the new 007 not only black and female, but lesbian with a lisp or some other disability. Geesh.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:10 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: JT at October 02, 2021 07:10 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Operation Kid Brother on MST3K. It had the original Q and Moneypenny.
Posted by: Blutarski at October 02, 2021 07:10 PM (9s7GK)
Posted by: Tuna at October 02, 2021 07:10 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 07:11 PM (QFVV9)
But Dalton was arguably the best actor (based on his other works) to play the role.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 02, 2021 07:11 PM (G6DU0)
Posted by: f'd at October 02, 2021 07:11 PM (Tnijr)
I'll bet it was the one with Jaws in space. That was god awful.
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:11 PM (ZsR3z)
No love for David Niven?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 02, 2021 07:02 PM (/U27+)
I think we can surely agree that, for its own benefit, the original Casino Royale should not be evaluated as a Bond movie.
Posted by: CppThis at October 02, 2021 07:12 PM (UewuT)
FYI: Here's a film to never watch: King David starring Richard Gere. The stuff with Saul is good but Gere treats King David like he's just a somewhat (but not completely) moral 80s CEO.
Plus I read some background on the movie and it included some more recent quotes from Gere, talking trash about Bush (war criminal!) and Trump (claims Trump wants to get rid of or kill "Jews;, blacks: etc. and is a tyrant like Mussolini.). What a stupid turd.
Posted by: LASue at October 02, 2021 07:12 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 07:11 PM (QFVV9)
For some reason, I always paid very close attention to the starting credit sequences. As a young lad they were rather...stimulating.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:12 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Blutarski at October 02, 2021 07:13 PM (9s7GK)
Nah. Just kidding. I love following y'all around
Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 02, 2021 07:13 PM (kkeqW)
He was a Shakespearean actor in the completely wrong role.
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:13 PM (ZsR3z)
And they were hooked for the rest of the movie.
That's how you open a Bond flick.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 07:13 PM (5NkmN)
I'll bet it was the one with Jaws in space. That was god awful.
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:11 PM (ZsR3z)
Moonraker?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:13 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:13 PM (gzeim)
He started with Dr. No, and wrote all of the early Bond movies.
Things changed once other screenwriters were brought in.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 02, 2021 07:13 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 02, 2021 07:14 PM (yQpMk)
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Posted by: LASue at October 02, 2021 07:12 PM (Ed8Zd
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Well known in the art film circles. I'm always trying to encourage people to at least try Tarkovsky's films, but they're very artsy fartsy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at October 02, 2021 07:15 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:15 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Blutarski at October 02, 2021 07:15 PM (9s7GK)
All this interest in Bond made me decide to binge watch all the Bond movies. That's when I discovered just how many there are. This has got to be the biggest franchise in entertainment by far.
Posted by: G'rump928
More than the "Madea" movies?
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:15 PM (gzeim)
Posted by: CppThis at October 02, 2021 07:16 PM (UewuT)
Side note: One of Brosnan's early movies was "The Long Good Friday." I liked his performance; he played a ruthless IRA soldier with a wicked smile.
Posted by: Gref at October 02, 2021 07:16 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 02, 2021 07:14 PM (yQpMk
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Movies, very likely. Entertainment? Not even close.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at October 02, 2021 07:16 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 02, 2021 07:16 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 07:16 PM (QFVV9)
Posted by: Blutarski at October 02, 2021 07:15 PM (9s7GK)
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I still haven't seen it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at October 02, 2021 07:17 PM (LvTSG)
This bit where Mike Myers pays tribute to Connery is very heartwarming:
https://youtu.be/KQYp8xJ4kpo
I just finished watching The Passion of the Christ, which is the Greatest Movie Ever Made. YMMV.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 07:17 PM (5hAFC)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 02, 2021 07:17 PM (yQpMk)
I mentioned that he's underrated. Try November Man or The Matador.
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:17 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 02, 2021 07:14 PM (yQpMk)
Damn limey!!! He just barely beat my record!
Feh.
Posted by: Francis the Talking Mule at October 02, 2021 07:17 PM (5NkmN)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 02, 2021 07:16 PM (Xrfse)
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Fist bump
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 07:18 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:18 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:18 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at October 02, 2021 07:19 PM (xopIz)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 02, 2021 07:19 PM (kkeqW)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 02, 2021 07:19 PM (u1eUk)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at October 02, 2021 07:19 PM (xopIz)
he did seem too emotionally invested. C'mon, getting married?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:19 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Blutarski at October 02, 2021 07:15 PM (9s7GK)
I still haven't seen it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at October 02, 2021 07:17 PM (LvTSG)
What "Never Say Never Again" makes you realize is just how important the James Bond soundtrack is in creating a "James Bond Movie".
Without the right music, it's just not James Bond.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 07:20 PM (5NkmN)
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 02, 2021 07:20 PM (ZHVt1)
Pierce Brosnan is great but more of a Remington Steele character, humorous and charming instead of a killer.
Roger Moore looked like he was in on the joke and didn't take it seriously, which was fun but killed any suspense.
Daniel Craig looks like a short thug. Way too much killer, and not enough charm.
Posted by: LASue at October 02, 2021 07:20 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Blutarski at October 02, 2021 07:20 PM (9s7GK)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 02, 2021 07:21 PM (QU5/8)
Posted by: CppThis at October 02, 2021 07:21 PM (UewuT)
Definitely read beyond those two books. The Spy Who Loved Me is actually told from a civilian woman's point of view and the spy (Bond) who 'loved' her. It's Bond at his best - diving in to help a woman in distress and getting a great deal of trouble for it. None of the movies even remotely touch the actual story in that book.
For me, Connery was the best Bond for the reasons you listed about how he portrayed his character. I could see him playing the Bond in the book, The Spy Who Loved Me. Dr No and Goldfinger were probably the best movies in terms of holding to the book, and Connery portrayed the spy expertly in both.
I think Moore's prime problem (aside from being the squeamish sort of actor) was that the writers made his movies about the women and the gadgets. They, themselves became the stars of the movies - often ridiculously. (Bond's gadgets almost never save the day for him in the Fleming books.)
Dalton was OK. Brosnan was OK (though Remington Steele leaked over into his takes as Bond; while I liked Steele, he was not Bond). Lazenby was forgettable (many people do). Craig brought back some viciousness to the character.
Posted by: GWB at October 02, 2021 07:21 PM (hR28Y)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:22 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Gref
Played a determined KGB agent in a Cold War movie with Michael Caine. "The Fourth Protocol". Haven't seen it in a long time but I recall it being very good.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 07:22 PM (QFVV9)
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 02, 2021 07:22 PM (ZHVt1)
30 A year or so ago, looking at netflix for movies on DVD, I came across a Bond film I could not remember ever seeing. It starred the 1980's era Bond, Roger Moore, and I hated it.
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Posted by: catostraster at October 02, 2021 07:10 PM (vWald)
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Was it the one set in San Francisco where the bad guy (Christopher Walken) flew around in a blimp?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 02, 2021 07:23 PM (2iDSr)
Posted by: Blutarski at October 02, 2021 07:20 PM (9s7GK)
Went to a Halloween store with the kids a few years ago. Found a cackling witch, so I put a Hillary mask on it and turned it on.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:23 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 06:59 PM (ZsR3z)
More like The Saint.
Posted by: GWB at October 02, 2021 07:23 PM (hR28Y)
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 07:17 PM (5hAFC)
How much Kleenex did you go through?
I heard today that Mel Gibson is making a "Resurrection." !!!!!!
Posted by: LASue at October 02, 2021 07:24 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Eromero at October 02, 2021 07:25 PM (0OP+5)
I always felt that Bond had to portray an element of violence. You had to feel he was willing to kill w/o remorse as needed. Connery's fight with Robert Shaw on the train was Bond as Fleming envisioned him.
Posted by: Zogger at October 02, 2021 07:26 PM (pJSvF)
Connery is my favorite, but only because his Bond tenure was a mix of good writing and right-time right-place luck in the culture of the time.
This
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 02, 2021 07:26 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Gref
Played a determined KGB agent in a Cold War movie with Michael Caine. "The Fourth Protocol". Haven't seen it in a long time but I recall it being very good.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 07:22 PM (QFVV9)
The Matador also is really good. A little age on him is good.
Posted by: LASue at October 02, 2021 07:26 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at October 02, 2021 07:26 PM (hMlTh)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2021 07:26 PM (K5n5d)
Boring chase scenes and improbable exploits.
Just crap.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at October 02, 2021 07:26 PM (xopIz)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at October 02, 2021 07:27 PM (xopIz)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at October 02, 2021 07:27 PM (xopIz)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at October 02, 2021 07:28 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 02, 2021 07:28 PM (h020H)
Boring chase scenes and improbable exploits.
Just crap.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at October 02, 2021 07:26 PM (xopIz)
But not as bad as "Fast and Furious" has become?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:28 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at October 02, 2021 07:27 PM (xopIz)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at October 02, 2021 07:28 PM (LvTSG)
What a terrible thing to say.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 02, 2021 07:28 PM (yQpMk)
https://tinyurl.com/pjb4azhz
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:29 PM (ynpvh)
Whatever happened to Stephanie Zimbalist?
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at October 02, 2021 07:29 PM (xopIz)
he recent James Bond movies just make me hate Broccoli in a whole new dimension.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here
Not even cheese will save it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 02, 2021 07:30 PM (63Dwl)
Was the first choice at first, but he was reluctant to play love scenes. Silly Irish Catholic ....
Except for Roger Moore and David Niven (Flemings first preference), the Bonds aren't English. Celtic!
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 02, 2021 07:30 PM (ZHVt1)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 02, 2021 07:30 PM (0nc67)
He's not the main character, but man, is he good playing a very iffy, possibly untrustworthy guy.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 07:31 PM (5NkmN)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 02, 2021 07:31 PM (Xrfse)
I did and I enjoyed it.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 07:31 PM (5hAFC)
Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at October 02, 2021 07:31 PM (hMlTh)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 02, 2021 07:32 PM (0nc67)
Posted by: LASue at October 02, 2021 07:20 PM (Ed8Zd)
The scene where he beats up the Chinese woman spy in Dr. No? He made it very clear that killing was a large bit of what he did for King and Country.
Posted by: GWB at October 02, 2021 07:32 PM (hR28Y)
You know, I don't know if I have a favorite Bond. I might say Roger Moore because back in the day when I was introduced to the Bond movies (when I was quite young) ABC showed them fairly often and as they never showed OHMSS as far as I know I only knew of two Bonds. But I of course love Connery. So I'll break it down like this: my favorite Bond movies by actor:
Connery era: From Russia With Love
Moore: The Spy Who Loved Me
Dalton: The Living Daylights
Brosnan: Goldeneye
Craig: Casino Royale
(Lazenby sucked, he don't count.)
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at October 02, 2021 07:32 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 02, 2021 07:21 PM (QU5/
Wow, now there is an unrealistic set of books....
At least Bond was written by an actual spy.
Posted by: GWB at October 02, 2021 07:33 PM (hR28Y)
Posted by: Notorious BFD
80s era Sheena Easton was a beauty. Blue eyes, fair skin, dark hair, great figure, and that wonderful Scottish accent. I likey.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 07:33 PM (QFVV9)
Posted by: Nemo at October 02, 2021 07:33 PM (S6ArX)
Posted by: Eromero at October 02, 2021 07:34 PM (0OP+5)
Peter Dinklage would make a good Dr Who or Bond.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:34 PM (gzeim)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2021 07:35 PM (KbLYZ)
Posted by: Nemo at October 02, 2021 07:33 PM (S6ArX)
All the ways Sean Bean characters die...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:35 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 02, 2021 07:02 PM (mD/uy)
Truth
***fistbump to TP***
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 02, 2021 07:35 PM (BgMrQ)
I've always thought Moore's Bond was a psychopath. He was Ripley who had found a way to get paid for his talents and indulge his appetites with legal protection.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos (meh, it's a living) at October 02, 2021 07:36 PM (3DZIZ)
Loved the scene where Bond is dancing with the hot red headed adversary(whom he has just bedded) when he spots a gun pointed at him. He spins his partner around so she takes the bullet then deposits her at another couples' table saying "She's just dead". Cold blooded and witty. Nobody did that better than Connery.
Posted by: Tuna at October 02, 2021 07:36 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 02, 2021 07:36 PM (ZHVt1)
Peter Dinklage would make a good Dr Who or Bond.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:34 PM (gzeim)
Mr. Bean (Rowan Atkinson) would make a better Dr. Who than that woman did. To be fair, it's all the writers' fault, not the actresses'.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:37 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Megthered at October 02, 2021 07:37 PM (/0RAQ)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 02, 2021 07:38 PM (0nc67)
Peter Dinklage would make a good Dr Who or Bond.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:34 PM (gzeim)
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If only Gilbert Gottfried wasn't so old...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 02, 2021 07:38 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: JuJuBee at October 02, 2021 07:38 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:04 PM (ZsR3z)
She was SO BLOODY HOT in Goldeneye. (Call me crazy, but there's a shot at one point of the train station in Saint Petersburg and she steps into the shot...it just works. What can I say?) The Dutch chick playing the Georgian chick is nice (Janssen), but the Italian chick playing the Russian chick for me is the best (Scorupco).
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at October 02, 2021 07:38 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: Azjaeger at October 02, 2021 07:39 PM (3/XaG)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 02, 2021 07:38 PM (0nc67)
If he'd been 009, he would've died in Octopussy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2021 07:39 PM (ynpvh)
My dear girl, don't flatter yourself. What I did this evening was for Queen and country. You don't think it gave me any pleasure, do you?
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 02, 2021 07:39 PM (ZHVt1)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2021 07:35 PM (KbLYZ)
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Dalton was in Hot Fuzz.
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 02, 2021 07:40 PM (3TihK)
Moore is The Saint (in that silly little Volvo)
and Brosnan is Remington Steele...(bring me Stephanie Zimbalist)
Though I do like Craig in Casino Royale
The rest barely register
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 02, 2021 07:41 PM (BgMrQ)
At least Bond was written by an actual spy.
I don't care about the books. I'd never spend my time reading wither set of books.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 02, 2021 07:41 PM (QU5/8)
Hats off Whore E Wood you murdered another IP.
Posted by: sven at October 02, 2021 07:41 PM (Lzpvj)
There's a fine line with suspension of disbelief, and that one crossed it. Craig was a welcome shange after Brosnan, even if he ended up being to cramky.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2021 07:41 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at October 02, 2021 07:41 PM (YZG/i)
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 07:42 PM (QFVV9)
Posted by: Rexbatt at October 02, 2021 07:42 PM (panFz)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 02, 2021 07:43 PM (0nc67)
Anyone remember Hollywood Knights from 1980? It's a Halloween movie with Tony Danza, Michelle Fifer, and Fran Drescher.
How about Mosquito Coast from 1986 with Han Solo?
or River's Edge, the slapstick comedy with Keanu Reeves and Crispin Glover?
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:44 PM (gzeim)
Three episodes in and two major characters have been black washed and gender swapped.
Posted by: WiNO at October 02, 2021 07:44 PM (HiNDK)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2021 07:44 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 02, 2021 07:40 PM (3TihK)
And that's what I meant and I still typed the wrong actor.
I give up, I am unable to say what I mean.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2021 07:45 PM (KbLYZ)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at October 02, 2021 07:45 PM (YZG/i)
Posted by: Blutarski at October 02, 2021 07:15 PM (9s7GK)
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I still haven't seen it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at October 02, 2021 07:17 PM (LvTSG)
It's not official, like the 1967 Casino Royale, so I never saw the point.
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at October 02, 2021 07:46 PM (CdZ4i)
Fundamentally, the original Bond character ruthlessly defended the West. There is a push from much of our would-be ruling class to make the Western World stop believing in itself. This will tend to take Bond's original job away. Whatever woke replacement Bond they invent will target us.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 02, 2021 07:47 PM (2iDSr)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 02, 2021 07:47 PM (h020H)
It's weird how I remember/regard movies from the 80's -- either through the lens of a boy or a young man.
The first half of the 80's I was but a boy and saw everything as a child, the last half I was more of an adult.
It's probably the same for you people, except for the 70's instead of the 80's.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:48 PM (gzeim)
Remember seeing the Connery Bond film at drive in theater
Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2021 07:48 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Texican ette at October 02, 2021 07:48 PM (MBidn)
Plenty of other Bond films, like Dr. No, Thunderball, Goldfinger, and The Spy Who Loved Me, are silly but fun.
Then you have Bond films that are silly and not very fun.
The only Bond novel I ever read was Moonraker, which was a magnificent good time. I was impressed by the sensuality of the prose. Fleming really went out of his way to impress in the reader's mind the ice clinking in your cocktail, a woman's body pressed innocently against yours in a moment of peril, the gears of your car as you wind through the streets in a car chase. I could see why people thought this stuff should be made into movies.
But also I won't miss Bond when he finally goes away. Our culture, such as it is, can tell new stories if it needs to.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 02, 2021 07:49 PM (0V/8D)
Octopussy and Never Say Never Again were two of the best Bond movies.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:49 PM (gzeim)
Yes. Also good in th Jackie Chan revenge flick -- Brosnan is an Irish politician who is secretly IRA.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2021 07:49 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 02, 2021 07:49 PM (ZHVt1)
Posted by: Eromero at October 02, 2021 07:50 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 02, 2021 07:50 PM (0nc67)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 02, 2021 07:47 PM (2iDSr)
I think that is the problem with Jerry Cornelius, he never was really out to save the world, the goal was to delay the collapse so he could get back to what he wanted to do.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2021 07:50 PM (KbLYZ)
What blows me away about that drawing of Bond is that it seems a perfect IMHO combination of what both Connery and Roger Moore look like.
Everyone else IMHO has been what I'd call a "re-interpretation" or "more modern version" of Bond. I know that's how I think of Daniel Craig.
I also strongly believe that James Bond is actually a title, not a name, even though Skyfall's ending defied that.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 07:50 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 02, 2021 07:50 PM (d9FiS)
My personal favorite Bond is Connery, and my personal favorite film is Goldfinger. This is the first film that has all the elements of the Bond template that I grew up with: pre-credits action not necessarily connected to the main plot, top notch villain, great henchman, semi-plausible scheme.
Despite that, I think From Russia With Love is a superior film. The fight scene between Bond and Grant on the train is superb, and for violence has not yet been matched.
After Connery, I think Dalton is the next best Bond. Despite the weaknesses of his two films, he seems plausible in the role of an agent who will kill if he must but will avoid it if possible. Brosnan and especially Moore seem too polished to want to soil their hands. I will acknowledge Brosnan's excellent performance in Goldeneye but I think subsequent scripts let him down.
And yet I have a weakness for Lazenby's film. How can I reject Diana Rigg and Telly Savalas as Blofeld? In particular, I don't think Rigg would have paired as well with any other of the Bond actors.
Posted by: Darles Chickens at October 02, 2021 07:51 PM (yMbVh)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 07:51 PM (kTF2Z)
My conclusion? My wallet stays shut until Dune.
LISTEN TO ME. THE SPICE MUST FLOW!!!
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at October 02, 2021 07:51 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: Texican ette
Never seen Ffolkes
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at October 02, 2021 07:51 PM (YZG/i)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 02, 2021 07:51 PM (U2p+3)
I think the best Roger Moore Bond film was Live and Let Die, hands down. There was a substantial
amount of comedy, but not done so that it compromised the movie.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 02, 2021 07:52 PM (2iDSr)
Posted by: E. A. Blair at October 02, 2021 07:52 PM (dbOHx)
>>I just finished watching The Passion of the Christ, which is the Greatest Movie Ever Made. YMMV.
I saw it in the theaters when it came out in Astoria Queens which is an Italian and Greek neighborhood in Brooklyn.
You've never experienced a film until you're watching the Savior going through the stations of the cross accompanied by weeping and sobbing in Italian and Greek from the audience.
It was a profoundly moving experience.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 02, 2021 07:52 PM (TiTxe)
Posted by: Azjaeger at October 02, 2021 07:52 PM (3/XaG)
Posted by: E. A. Blair at October 02, 2021 07:52 PM (dbOHx)
Can we do spoilers?
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:53 PM (gzeim)
I am reasonably certain Fleming would *not* approve of how many zillion changes have been made to his stories, his characters, etc etc etc. That doesn't necessarily mean Bond can be *anything,* (a woman, a trans, a rock, a squirrel), but it does mean IMHO that there's room for even more flexibility. The only question is how much, before Bond becomes unrecognizable.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 07:53 PM (L2ZTs)
I forgot about that one. Yes, he was quite good.
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:53 PM (ZsR3z)
https://youtu.be/DPQua0Hg7N4
and now you have....
ffolkes=s north sea hijack
You're welcome.
Posted by: sven at October 02, 2021 07:54 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 02, 2021 07:50 PM (0nc67)
It is interesting to notice the Left has become everything the show warned could happen.
Posted by: WiNO at October 02, 2021 07:54 PM (HiNDK)
A core problem is that Gandolfini's son can't pull off a young Tony, especially with an underwritten role.
The movie pre-figures many of the characters in the TV series. I saw some great subtle things, and some not so subtle (Silvio), and probably missed many more. e.g., Vera Farmiga plays Tony's mom Livia and channels the voice and mannerisms of a different character from the TV show. Paging Dr. Melfi to the white courtesy phone!
There's a key revelation in the movie where you need to know that in the TV series, Tony lies to Christopher Moltisanti that an ex-cop is the one who whacked his father Dickie Moltisanti (the central character in the movie), so that Chris will whack him in revenge. Spoiler alert: it's someone else.
There's one scene mid-way through where young Tony pulls a prank -- I peed laughing.
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 02, 2021 07:54 PM (ZHVt1)
Posted by: Ben Had
We don't need to watch The Twilight Zone. We're living it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 02, 2021 07:54 PM (d9FiS)
Posted by: Azjaeger at October 02, 2021 07:52 PM (3/XaG)
I'd watch that, moody lighting and all.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2021 07:54 PM (KbLYZ)
Runners up: From Russia With Love and You Only Live Twice.
Best Bond: Connery.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at October 02, 2021 07:54 PM (gEYP0)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 02, 2021 07:55 PM (TiTxe)
Posted by: Tuna at October 02, 2021 07:55 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 07:55 PM (2DOZq)
OHMSS has the deepest story IMHO of any Bond film.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 07:55 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 02, 2021 07:56 PM (TiTxe)
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A word to the wise: Keep away from that rock idea or you'll be hearing from our lawyers.
Posted by: The Lucasfilm Story Group at October 02, 2021 07:56 PM (VxC1e)
How about the wacky zany comedy "Heartbeeps" starring Latka and Bernadette Peters, 1981?
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:56 PM (gzeim)
Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2021 07:56 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 07:56 PM (L2ZTs)
See, I didn't like the poker game, because its seemed very unlikely to be that the high rollers in Monaco would play high stakes poker.
I think they were capitalizing on the poker craze at the time, with the tournaments on TV, etc.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 07:57 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 02, 2021 07:57 PM (a3Q+t)
I'll bet it was the one with Jaws in space. That was god awful.
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 07:11 PM (ZsR3z)
Moonraker, where they tried to jump on the whole sci-fi explosion in the wake of Star Wars. I didn't care for that.
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at October 02, 2021 07:57 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: Darth Randall
Yes, and he was hilarious.
I watched "Stalker" one afternoon years ago. And it was possibly one of the worst and most boring movies I have every seen. Yes, I can think of some other really bad movies I sat through, but I was waiting for some kind of payoff for sitting through it, as the reviews were written as..."It was great..Powerful"
Borrrrrrrring.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 07:57 PM (tjZg/)
I think he could, but he'd need help staying focused.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 07:57 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 07:22 PM (QFVV9)
Damn good movie and book. Commies using the No Nukes movement to their advantage.
What was the movie where the no nukes movement took hostages and the SAS freed Them
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 02, 2021 07:58 PM (dKiJG)
sigh.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 07:58 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 07:58 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2021 07:58 PM (KbLYZ)
Can we do spoilers?
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 07:53 PM (gzeim
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Don't for the new movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at October 02, 2021 07:58 PM (LvTSG)
I think he could, but he'd need help staying focused.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 07:57 PM
Hard to see Samuel L. Jackson as Felix Leiter.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 02, 2021 07:59 PM (a3Q+t)
His unbelievable fake humble speech at the opening party for the last Bond film was laughable. He was so 'humbled' to have played Bond...yeah, he was paid something like $50 million for Skyfall. Humbled. What an ass.
Posted by: squeakywheel at October 02, 2021 07:59 PM (NXy9v)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at October 02, 2021 07:59 PM (YZG/i)
I'm not sure QT would be right for it--the Bond movies are above all else deft and clever. QT doesn't do deft and clever.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 07:59 PM (AwPyG)
I think he could, but he'd need help staying focused.
Posted by: qdpsteve
There would be a lot of thematic violence, and Uma Thurman would be some kind of SMERSH assassin.
Oh yeah, SMERSH is obsolete (part of the dead Soviet Union). Well, maybe SPECTRE then.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 07:59 PM (tjZg/)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:00 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 02, 2021 07:58 PM (dKiJG)
My goodness, how could anyone think that was anything but a fantasy. Next thing people will make up stories that Greenpeace was funded by the Russians as well. People are so hateful.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2021 08:00 PM (KbLYZ)
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:00 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Java Joe at October 02, 2021 08:00 PM (2p/1y)
Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2021 08:01 PM (2JoB8)
That's one hell of a disguise.
Posted by: pep at October 02, 2021 08:01 PM (ZsR3z)
I think he could, but he'd need help staying focused.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 07:57 PM (L2ZTs)
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Tarentino is an insufferable douchebag but he does understand genre conventions in movies. Give him a spy thriller and some very strict guidelines, he could probably do a bang-up job.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2021 08:01 PM (K5n5d)
Really? A lot of late Boomers/early GenXers prefer Moore? Can't say that's my experience.
I feel for Roger Moore. He replaced James Garner as "Maverick" and then Sean Connery (eliding Lazenby) as "Bond". It was never gonna go well for him.
Lazenby showed up at the local bijou when they showed "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" and said, outright, he quit Bond because he was worried that if he played a stiff in a suit, he wouldn't get laid and what's the point of living if you can't get laid?).
That's right, ladies and germs, he stopped playing Bond because he thought Bond was not attractive enough to women.
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:01 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:02 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Azjaeger at October 02, 2021 08:02 PM (3/XaG)
Posted by: Kindltot
I saw that in a theater. Man, was it dumb.
Roger Moore, in real life, was actually a pretty cool guy. But as Bond, I think his style was kind of all wrong.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 08:02 PM (tjZg/)
(I saw that movie 1st run, in the theater, downtown Chicago, lol !)
g'night everyone !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at October 02, 2021 08:02 PM (jDHSU)
That sounds like View to a Kill
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 02, 2021 08:02 PM (0V/8D)
Call RuPaul's people and tell them she's out! And cancel the order for the pink Walther PPKs!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 02, 2021 08:03 PM (h020H)
Posted by: Dinglebeef at October 02, 2021 08:03 PM (i2nFR)
I heard today that Mel Gibson is making a "Resurrection." !!!!!!
Posted by: LASue
I cried like a baby. As I always do when I watch the movie.
I also have heard that Gibson and Caviezel are putting out the "sequel" called Resurrection. Mark Steyn's original review of The Passion of the Christ is one of my favorite movie reviews ever:
https://tinyurl.com/Steyn-Passion-Christos
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:03 PM (5hAFC)
So, probably Dalton comes closest to looking like the book Bond.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 08:03 PM (5NkmN)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 07:58 PM (L2ZTs)
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That just emphasizes TJM's point that the Bond franchise chases fads, rather than sets them. Casino Royale cashed in on the Texas hold-em craze. Moonraker tried to cash in the Star Wars craze, etc.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2021 08:03 PM (K5n5d)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:03 PM (L2ZTs)
Roger Moore played Bo Maverick, Simon Templer, and James Bond the same. And that's fine with me.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 08:04 PM (gzeim)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:04 PM (L2ZTs)
Connery, Dalton/Brosnan/Craig (as John T. Chance said in Rio Bravo, "I'd hate to have to live on the difference."), Moore (and this due to scripts, not Moore himself -- check out his not-well-enough-known film FFOLKES), Lazenby. Brosnan's a weird case here, I think; I like Goldeneye, but his first time out, Brosnan just didn't seem old enough for the part; by the time Die Another Day was made he seemed spot on for it, but the movie itself wasn't as good. Go figure.
From Russia with Love is my favorite of the batch -- good story line, not much joking around, and when Connery and Shaw went at each other in the train, they looked like they meant business. Never Say Never Again wasn't an official Bond, but I thought Connery was terrific in it, and the fun the movie had in its first half with Bond's age was delightful.
Seldom mentioned is a television production of Casino Royale, well before the Connery film, with Barry Nelson as Bond, but it's been so long since I've seen it I can't remember if it was all that good.
Your mileage may vary.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at October 02, 2021 08:04 PM (JzDjf)
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at October 02, 2021 08:04 PM (3BmIK)
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:04 PM (2DOZq)
I think he could, but he'd need help staying focused.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 07:57 PM (L2ZTs
True. But just imagine the dialogue. The mind boggles.
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at October 02, 2021 08:04 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:05 PM (L2ZTs)
You are correct. And also incorrect.
"Stalker" is one of those movies I wouldn't recommend to most people but The Boy and I were riveted. I can't even explain it, except that if you're someone who pays close attention to movie tricks and details, it's like a puzzle.
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:05 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:02 PM (L2ZTs)
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I'm sure he could squeeze in a hilarious cameo from Samuel L. Jackson, if only to throw out an F-bomb or two...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2021 08:05 PM (K5n5d)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 02, 2021 08:06 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 02, 2021 08:07 PM (0nc67)
a Bond film.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:08 PM (L2ZTs)
Loved that one.
Watching Dr No right now
Posted by: nurse ratched
There was a Japanese guy working at our site a few years ago, that was an engineer for the parent company. Always wore dark glasses outside, when he went out to smoke a cigarette (most Japanese men smoke like chimneys). Always looked mad or grim.
We nicknamed him "Dr. No". It was harmless, because I don't think he spoke any Engrish.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 08:08 PM (tjZg/)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:05 PM (L2ZTs)
Moore was 57 at that point, IIRC. He wanted to quit after Octopussy because he was getting too old for the role and only did A View To A Kill because they couldn't find anyone else. (By the way, I love the theme song by Duran Duran.)
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at October 02, 2021 08:08 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:09 PM (2DOZq)
I also love Madonna's Bond theme for Die Another Day. (Please don't hit me!)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:09 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Ben Had
Have you watched "The Chosen"? It can be found online and some parts on YouTube, and sometimes the first season on some Roku channels.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 08:10 PM (tjZg/)
Yep.
Posted by: m at October 02, 2021 08:10 PM (SJbY/)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2021 08:03 PM (K5n5d)
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Goldfinger tried to cash in on the craze for murdering people by cutting them in half with a laser beam.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 02, 2021 08:11 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 08:11 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Duke Lowell
This MIGHT work if Gina Carano is cast.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 08:11 PM (QFVV9)
I think it was about a woman who had a near-death experience and ended up with the power to heal? Got interesting reviews.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:11 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:11 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 02, 2021 08:12 PM (0nc67)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 02, 2021 08:11 PM (VxC1e)
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Some trends never go out of style!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2021 08:12 PM (K5n5d)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:12 PM (L2ZTs)
sigh.
Posted by: artemis
It has recently come out that Cassandra Peterson, the smoking hottie who played Elvira, Mistress of the Dark, to such great effect in Young Sharkman's life, is a lesbian.
Doesn't bother me at all. She's still as hot as the center of the Sun, and still hilarious in that role.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:12 PM (5hAFC)
The caption says: "What it looks like when I tell Jesus my problems"
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:12 PM (AwPyG)
You are correct. And also incorrect.
"Stalker" is one of those movies I wouldn't recommend to most people but The Boy and I were riveted. I can't even explain it, except that if you're someone who pays close attention to movie tricks and details, it's like a puzzle.
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:05 PM (asXVI)
The problem with "Stalker" is that all of the special effects footage got burned up in an accidental fire, so there was no money to redo them and Tarkovsky went with trying to fix it in the editing.
So, you have a movie without any climaxes or completion of sequences, endless yearning and frustration dramatically.
So, like the "Blair Witch Project", "Stalker" comes to an end, but does not have an end.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 08:12 PM (5NkmN)
I also love Madonna's Bond theme for Die Another Day. (Please don't hit me!)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:09 PM (L2ZTs)
Not gonna. If at the very least the Bond themes have been forgettable, throwaway trash since Chris Cornell did a bang-up job with Casino Royale ("You Know My Name").
I'll take Madonna's contribution.
My faves are from A View To A Kill, The Spy Who Loved Me (h/t, my mother, obsessed Carly Simon fan who made sure we grew up on her music, for better or for worse), Live And Let Die, and The Living Daylights.
Off to work. I think I'll listen to "The Best of Bond...James Bond" on the way in.
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at October 02, 2021 08:13 PM (CdZ4i)
I heard today that Mel Gibson is making a "Resurrection." !!!!!!
Posted by: LASue
I cried like a baby. As I always do when I watch the movie.
I also have heard that Gibson and Caviezel are putting out the "sequel" called Resurrection. Mark Steyn's original review of The Passion of the Christ is one of my favorite movie reviews ever:
https://tinyurl.com/Steyn-Passion-Christos
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:03 P
Sharkman, Mark Stein was my choice to replace Rush Limbaugh.
Posted by: Eromero at October 02, 2021 08:13 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:14 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 02, 2021 08:14 PM (QU5/8)
I think it was about a woman who had a near-death experience and ended up with the power to heal? Got interesting reviews.
Posted by: qdpsteve
Yes, it was a very touching movie. At the end, she moves away from civilization to be alone, because the power to heal was making her crazy. A couple comes by her obscure truck stop, with their small boy who is dying from cancer. I think they were looking for her, but did not know who she was.
There is a very touching moment at the end of the movie, where she hugs the little boy.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 08:14 PM (tjZg/)
I think Connery is my favorite Bond.
I listened to a Bond talk and it was the first time I heard about the stolen painting (Duke of Wellington portrait) that Dr. No had in his lair. I thought this was clever since the painting had just been stolen IRL.
When looking up the reference apparently there are other glimpses of stolen paintings in the movies.
Posted by: Iris at October 02, 2021 08:15 PM (6lKe4)
In 1966, Brian Wilson heard through the grapevine, he and the Beach Boys would be asked to write and perform a Bond theme.
He wrote this... then when he was passed over, had it performed by the Wrecking Crew as the actual song "Pet Sounds," on the renowned album of the same name.
Good listen, and it does actually sound rather mid-60s Bond-ish IMHO.
https://youtu.be/EeN_NytxKEc
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:15 PM (L2ZTs)
The Final Option
Posted by: Eric at October 02, 2021 08:16 PM (a2F+C)
Posted by: naturalfake
His daughter has developed telekinesis, and moves a vase ....THE END. I waded through 3 hours for that.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 08:16 PM (tjZg/)
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:17 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 02, 2021 08:17 PM (d9FiS)
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:17 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 08:18 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at October 02, 2021 08:18 PM (3BmIK)
His daughter has developed telekinesis, and moves a vase ....THE END. I waded through 3 hours for that.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 08:16 PM (tjZg/)
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It's a movie about faith without proof. Tarkovsky could only make movies about faith in the Soviet Union if he made science fiction films.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at October 02, 2021 08:20 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
The villain could Samuel L. Jackson as Motherfuckers Aplenty.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 02, 2021 08:20 PM (d9FiS)
I remember my mother arguing with my dad that the film was too "adult" for us kids. (My dad was right. That stuff flew right past me.)
Posted by: Texican ette at October 02, 2021 08:21 PM (MBidn)
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 08:16 PM (tjZg/)
Never saw it but you reminded me of The Fury. Haven't watched it in decades but I recall it was very good at the time.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:21 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Azjaeger at October 02, 2021 08:21 PM (3/XaG)
In the Bond movies -- yep. But if you can find it on YouTube, check out the uncut version of the fight sequence between Rod Taylor and William Smith at the finish of Darker Than Amber. Absolutely brutal, no stunt doubles, and not much needed in the way of makeup effects at all. Smith used to have a web site up with a page devoted to this sequence. His account of the filming of that sequence is worth a look.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at October 02, 2021 08:21 PM (JzDjf)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 08:21 PM (kTF2Z)
Little bit. I've mostly moved away from using them.
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:21 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: sassy at October 02, 2021 08:23 PM (xSICi)
Posted by: Steampunk Bond at October 02, 2021 08:23 PM (a1s18)
Rumblings that B of A was the bag man for the Citadel/Federal Reserve bad guys, and may be going down. Apparently a lot of their branches and ATMs were closed Friday with no explanation
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:24 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at October 02, 2021 08:24 PM (YZG/i)
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:24 PM (2DOZq)
It's always fun when a maverick has to try to stay within the rules.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:25 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 02, 2021 08:25 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 02, 2021 08:25 PM (h020H)
Maybe I should have bought hot dogs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 02, 2021 08:25 PM (csEWM)
Did you see Wisconsin-Michigan at the start of the 4th quarter? They played "jump around" and the place was utterly rocking---even the Michigan players joined in.
So much fun to see.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:26 PM (AwPyG)
Very True. The GRU were the best Intel Agency in the Cold War. Trained in guns, but did not use them. Great at getting information.
The US used technical means the best, but had no way to get inside the heads of the bad guys.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at October 02, 2021 08:26 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 02, 2021 08:27 PM (d9FiS)
Rumblings that B of A was the bag man for the Citadel/Federal Reserve bad guys, and may be going down. Apparently a lot of their branches and ATMs were closed Friday with no explanation
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:24 PM
Bank Of Amigo.
Posted by: Eromero at October 02, 2021 08:27 PM (0OP+5)
Gotta admire Mel's guts at the very least for making such an incredible, and incredibly bloody and violent, film.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:27 PM (L2ZTs)
BANK OF FRIGGIN' AMERICA going down???
I thought they were the very definition of Too Big To Fail!!
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:28 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 02, 2021 08:28 PM (ybIRR)
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:29 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Azjaeger at October 02, 2021 08:29 PM (3/XaG)
It's really ironic, because the immigrant Italian who founded Bank of Italy (which became Bank of America) would be rolling in his grave, if he saw what has happened.
He was all about the working man
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:29 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:29 PM (L2ZTs)
Dominican playboy Porfirio Rubirosa has been said to be an inspiration for some of Bond's character. He was a diplomat and a soldier of fortune involved in political machinations around the globe, as he could move in the highest circles. Allied with strongman Trujillo, who said of him: "He is good at his job, because women like him and he is a wonderful liar."
He was hung like a horse, and f*cked women everywhere and all the time, many thousands. Married to two of the richest women in the world, Doris Duke and Barbara Hutton, who indulged his passions for polo, race car driving and flying planes. Died by wrapping his Ferrari GT around a tree,
But no children.
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 02, 2021 08:30 PM (ZHVt1)
And then they step on their duck dicks.
Ha ha ha ha ha!!!
- Sharkman, Oregon State University graduate, 1985.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:30 PM (5hAFC)
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:30 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 02, 2021 08:31 PM (0nc67)
I'm seeing that Saul Goodman is in a new movie? Nobody?
Bob Odenkirk, as a person, makes me sick. Better Call Saul had me interested, but they killed the series by taking such a long hiatus -- I no longer give a shit what happens.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 08:32 PM (gzeim)
Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp
Posted by: Just a side note
Oh, man. I loved that show.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:32 PM (5hAFC)
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:32 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:32 PM (5hAFC)
Makes me laugh just thinking about it.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:33 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 08:33 PM (kTF2Z)
And a John Christian Falkenberg series.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:34 PM (5hAFC)
I think some of the effect was unfortunately lessened for me, because for so many years I read about how unbelievably violent and bloody it was.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:34 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:32 PM (2DOZq)
Bank of Italy, in San Francisco... talk about double Jeopardy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 02, 2021 08:35 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 08:35 PM (kTF2Z)
And a John Christian Falkenberg series.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:34 PM (5hAFC)
Hammer's Slammers...
because what Man would NOT LOVE Hover Tanks.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 02, 2021 08:36 PM (oHd/0)
But the redditors seem to think the elite's house of cards is set to collapse, which was one of the reasons the dems needed such a ridiculous amount of money with these bills.
If you wander over to Superstonk on reddit, and read some of the pinned "DD" (research and information) it leaves you with a robust distrust of the world wide financial industry.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:36 PM (AwPyG)
They must own enough Senators to avoid issues. They're woke (which is why I moved away from them). They're all on board with the new fascism.
But...shrugemoji.
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:37 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
I really love that movie. TJM did a review of it and didn't like it as much as I did. There's just something about it that touches my heart.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:37 PM (5hAFC)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 02, 2021 08:37 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 02, 2021 08:37 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Eromero at October 02, 2021 08:37 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:37 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: sassy at October 02, 2021 08:38 PM (xSICi)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 02, 2021 08:38 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:24 PM (2DOZq)
Those Kentucky people are a bunch of goobers for rushing the field over merely beating Florida.
But yes, they can crowd each other without masks. Hopefully Karens will want to speak to their manager about that.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 02, 2021 08:38 PM (0V/8D)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:38 PM (L2ZTs)
Retief would be great! And we have the State Department fully acting like the CDC. Except we have no Retief. The Aliens need GCI.
John Christian Falkenberg is too close to the truth to be made. No Aliens, just humans.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at October 02, 2021 08:39 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:39 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: La Palma Volcano at October 02, 2021 08:39 PM (4I/2K)
https://bit.ly/3l4bJOY
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 02, 2021 08:39 PM (d9FiS)
Posted by: La Palma Volcano at October 02, 2021 08:39 PM (4I/2K)
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Sure, why not?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 08:40 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Julian Bond at October 02, 2021 08:40 PM (L2a8p)
It's hard to discuss it without spoilers, but in the end this series is very well written, directed, and acted. It's the best Stephen King movie that King never had anything to do with.
That being said the main purpose of "Midnight Mass" is to break your faith in God, and demonstrate that Christianity and the belief in Heaven is bunkum.
It particularly wants to give Catholicism a kicking and
for Catholics of a certain age, say, who remember Mass and went to Catholic school before the 80s, it is a HUGE nostalgia fest in the songs and prayers which they use(beautifully sung, I might add). However, I really resent the use of my nostalgia and good feelings about my childhood as grist to try and destroy their significance.
In the end, it's a typical, if more subtle than usual, Hollywood anti-Christianity project. Let the buyer beware.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 08:40 PM (5NkmN)
Well, I s'pose we gots bigger problems if that's the case. My losses (from BofA) will be a minor sacrifice.
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:40 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:30 PM (5hAFC)
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Mrs. F is at the game with all her loser UofO friends. Apparently she is too drunk to get home.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 02, 2021 08:40 PM (EZebt)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucdhFxLLP1A
Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 02, 2021 08:41 PM (wvwzL)
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at October 02, 2021 08:41 PM (u82oZ)
They must own enough Senators to avoid issues. They're woke (which is why I moved away from them). They're all on board with the new fascism.
But...shrugemoji.
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:37 PM (asXVI)
Except the FAR Left wing of the Dems, are willing to let the economy burn, out of ignorance.
They could hold up any Dem support for a major bank, which would mean Repubs would have to support it... which would, after the 2008 crap, be the kiss of death.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 02, 2021 08:41 PM (oHd/0)
I just keep track of what's going on in Superstonk, which covers the GME vs. hedge funds battle. Apparently, that's what's making the house of cards fall.
Did you know that when you buy shares via your broker, that your broker takes your money but basically give you an "IOU"? apparently there are "clearing house" entities that actually "own" the shares, and are easily manipulated by everybody who's in cahoots. I don't understand a lot of it, but there's a lot of smart people there, exposing the bad guys.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:41 PM (AwPyG)
Years later, my resolve to skip. firms derived from a specific book solidified when I watched Where Eagles Dare by Alistair McLain. They completely miscast the characters ... Richard Burton as the lead and Eastwood as his sidekick ... when a casual read of the book showed Eastwood - as the American - should have been the lead.
I've pretty well stuck to my resolve ... to the point that the only time I've been in a theater since 1985 was when American Sniper came out.
Posted by: Wingnutt at October 02, 2021 08:42 PM (N2QpI)
They must own enough Senators to avoid issues. They're woke (which is why I moved away from them). They're all on board with the new fascism.
Posted by: moviegique
How long does the average home loan take to be approved and settled?
JPMorgan Chase received Fed approval to take over the assets of Bear Stearns over the course of a weekend.
The rich and powerful always do what they do.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 02, 2021 08:42 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at October 02, 2021 08:43 PM (JzDjf)
Posted by: Just a side note
(Theme from The Godfather plays quietly in the background)
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 08:44 PM (QFVV9)
Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2021 08:44 PM (L2a8p)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 02, 2021 08:44 PM (dKiJG)
https://bit.ly/3l4bJOY||
That is, perhaps, the most perfect capsule of the world today.
You can clearly hear what the crowd is chanting.
The reporterette makes up a completely plausible other phrase; or it would be completely plausible if only you couldn't hear it with your own ears.
The celebrity goes along with it because...what else is he gonna do?
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:44 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 02, 2021 08:36 PM (oHd/0)
Fusion powered plasma main gun hover tanks.
The Frisian Self Defense Force is my example for why a rigid support of Comparative Advantage may not be in the best interest of everyone. They are the best for the value, but what happens when they decide to go home instead of renewing a contract?
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2021 08:44 PM (KbLYZ)
No one wanted to reform the system, because they are all getting rich off it, illegally.
So the redditors decided to fix it, themselves.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:45 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: mot at October 02, 2021 08:45 PM (FmeBQ)
Posted by: Sheriff JW Pepper at October 02, 2021 08:45 PM (4I/2K)
Ha ha ha ha ha!!!
- Sharkman, Oregon State University graduate, 1985.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 02, 2021 08:30 PM
Don't know about the OU species, but mallard's are kind of corkscrew shaped.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 02, 2021 08:45 PM (a3Q+t)
Is it a supernatural horror movie?
If so, then if there is evil then there is good. You can't dismiss God if you're saying there is a Devil.
My comment may be totally off base as again I've not seen the movie.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:46 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 02, 2021 08:46 PM (gzeim)
Posted by: Mary Cloginstien from Brattleboro, VT at October 02, 2021 08:46 PM (6QJnV)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 02, 2021 08:46 PM (QU5/8)
Posted by: Sheriff JW Pepper at October 02, 2021 08:45 PM (4I/2K)
Brother, you have no idea how right you were.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 02, 2021 08:46 PM (0V/8D)
Posted by: mot at October 02, 2021 08:46 PM (FmeBQ)
It's got fairly copious amounts of bare breasts, which is not something one expects to see in a 1960 film. (Apparently, this is the European cut.)
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:46 PM (asXVI)
So he was the only bank who could start giving out loans on site.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:47 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 08:48 PM (QFVV9)
Posted by: mot at October 02, 2021 08:48 PM (FmeBQ)
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:49 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 02, 2021 08:49 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: mot at October 02, 2021 08:49 PM (FmeBQ)
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:49 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 02, 2021 08:49 PM (0V/8D)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at October 02, 2021 08:49 PM (JzDjf)
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 08:51 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: moviegique at October 02, 2021 08:51 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:51 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 02, 2021 08:52 PM (QU5/8)
Posted by: ptleahy at October 02, 2021 08:53 PM (6wB8G)
Maybe I should have bought hot dogs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 02, 2021 08:25 PM (csEWM)
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If there's a Walmart grocery in range, you can save a lot of money there.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 02, 2021 08:53 PM (2iDSr)
Posted by: Geldingadalir Volcano at October 02, 2021 08:54 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 02, 2021 08:55 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2021 08:55 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
I really love that movie. TJM did a review of it and didn't like it as much as I did. There's just something about it that touches my heart.
Posted by: Sharkman
It was a very good movie, and although about Jesus Christ, he is actually just a supporting character.
Yes, it was very good.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 08:56 PM (tjZg/)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 02, 2021 08:57 PM (QU5/8)
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 08:40 PM (5NkmN)
I really liked it, and while that might be the intention, that's not what I got from it.
I thought it was about how easily one can fall into wishful heresy. And that free will can triumph over baser urges.
Way too many monologues though.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at October 02, 2021 08:57 PM (YZG/i)
I think accounts are protected by the FDIC, right?
although everyone involved seems extremely sleazy, and who knows what's going to happen.
It's bizarre, because the reddit people on superstonk are rooting every morning for a financial crash, because they are convinced that will wind up being a "reset", and a good thing for ordinary people.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 09:00 PM (AwPyG)
Yes, it was very good.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at October 02, 2021 08:56 PM (tjZg/)
Risen reminds me of the old Hollywood movies where it's during the time of Jesus like Ben Hur or the robe
Barabas is another excellent movie
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 02, 2021 09:00 PM (dKiJG)
Is it a supernatural horror movie?
If so, then if there is evil then there is good. You can't dismiss God if you're saying there is a Devil.
My comment may be totally off base as again I've not seen the movie.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 02, 2021 08:46 PM (2DOZq)
Oh, okay...SPOILERS!!! SPOILERS!!! SPOILERS!!!
So, basically "MM" is a variation on the vampire theme with the priest as Renfield, feeding the vampire's blood into his parishioners during communion, so that they're ready to become vampires and his minions. The miracles, which the parishioners are experiencing are no such thing. Merely the vampire's blood preparing their bodies for vampirism.
"MM" wants to have it both ways. There are vampires but the reason is explained "scientifically" no mystical or supernatural reason.
And in the end, to explain this would take a while, so I won't, the writer/director sheds his character's development to have her deliver his debunking of God and Heaven as she dies. Basically, it's Carl Sagen's "we are all star-stuff" jazzed up with the extinction of the self as nothing.(con't)
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 09:02 PM (5NkmN)
I think it makes a difference when the director is a devout Christian.
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 09:03 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: artemis at October 02, 2021 09:05 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 09:06 PM (L2ZTs)
Yes, that's the subtle part, until he has that lo-o-o-ong frigging monologue where he explains what he really meant to say.
I'm a bit conflicted over it myself. With less Hollywood Woke nonsense, and the writer.director using his good sense of character and storytelling, which is excellent, this could've been a mini-series for the ages.
Instead, he slubs along with the stereotypical Hollywood flow.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 09:06 PM (5NkmN)
Posted by: sassy at October 02, 2021 09:07 PM (xSICi)
Posted by: klaftern at October 02, 2021 09:08 PM (taPSh)
Posted by: artemis
That is some crazy, dangerous, naivety there.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 02, 2021 09:09 PM (QFVV9)
Craig's Casino Royale is one of the most offensive of them. If the lynchpin of the script focuses around romanticizing a high-stakes poker game, at least get someone who has done more research than watching 20 minutes of poker on ESPN. Rounders goes a bit over the top, but makes high stakes poker a lot more thrilling than Bond did, so Craig just ends up being doubly inferior to... Matt Damon.
Moore gets an outsized amount of hate, but he played Bond as a suave character well, he just got hamstrung a bit with the sillier plots and one-liners.
Brosnan did well in Goldeneye, and them seemed like he mostly phoned it in to cash paychecks. Doesn't help that post-Goldeneye bond movies have easily the weakest plots.
Posted by: Sjg at October 02, 2021 09:10 PM (gDSJf)
Posted by: bob in houston at October 02, 2021 09:12 PM (IC7R4)
Posted by: rd at October 02, 2021 09:12 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2021 09:06 PM (5NkmN)
To be honest I may have fast forwarded through some of that monologue
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at October 02, 2021 09:13 PM (YZG/i)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 08:05 PM (L2ZTs)
Moore was 57 at that point, IIRC. He wanted to quit after Octopussy because he was getting too old for the role and only did A View To A Kill because they couldn't find anyone else. (By the way, I love the theme song by Duran Duran.)
Posted by: Cow Demon - Free Australia! at October 02, 2021 08:08 PM (CdZ4i)
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A little more to it than that. They were going to pick Dalton but NSNA was coming out and they didn't want to put a new Bond actor up against Connery.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 02, 2021 09:21 PM (cMXNt)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 02, 2021 09:24 PM (cMXNt)
You can't size up Bond without reading more Fleming.
Bond is not a spy -- he is a secret agent. Big difference.
Moore was in the films of my era, but Connery is Bond. (Moore is Simon Templar.)
The Moore films went way too far with comedy. Fun at the time but ultimately cringeworthy. Then Moore got old.
I pretty much abandoned Bond after that. Brosnan never was Bond for me because of his TV role, and I never saw Dalton.
(con't)
Posted by: Weak Geek at October 02, 2021 09:28 PM (Om/di)
"Live and Let Die," "On Her Majesty's Secret Service," and "The Living Daylights" -- a short story in a book whose title I don't recall. It was the last Bond tale that was all Fleming. Bond is near burnout in this one.
One book has a sequence in which Bond was assigned to a review committee after Burgess and McLean (sp?) escaped to the Soviet Union. Fleming, through Bond, had sharp words for the Service.)
Posted by: Weak Geek at October 02, 2021 09:29 PM (Om/di)
Posted by: Weak Geek at October 02, 2021 09:31 PM (Om/di)
That's killed the film franchise for me.
*will have to read this thread later because phone is low on power*
Posted by: Weak Geek at October 02, 2021 09:34 PM (Om/di)
Posted by: sassy at October 02, 2021 09:35 PM (xSICi)
******
My friends and I had a joke, that the Bond girl that got pregnant was the one that got killed.
Posted by: sassy at October 02, 2021 09:37 PM (xSICi)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 02, 2021 09:44 PM (L2ZTs)
I loved the Dalton films. They can't rely on his magnetism but make up for it with good action, great villains, and good stories. Brosnan could have been a return to greatness, but the formula was stale, and the geopolitical landscape of the 90s was benign as the Cold-War had just ended and 9/11 was a few years away.
Posted by: David Groenier at October 02, 2021 09:48 PM (DwnPl)
Posted by: bradc at October 02, 2021 10:13 PM (DJiWb)
Posted by: ibid at October 02, 2021 10:14 PM (zUVLz)
Eon productions, co-owners of the Bond IP with MGM.
Posted by: Sjg at October 02, 2021 10:29 PM (gDSJf)
I watched "Kill Bill, Volume 1" with the missus tonight.
The only part of it that stoked an honest reaction from me was the criminal use of a box if Kaboom cereal as an ersatz silencer or disguise for firing a handgun.
Will not waste our time to watch "Volume 2".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 02, 2021 10:45 PM (CeHbE)
Posted by: m at October 03, 2021 12:34 AM (TZgEk)
Fun additional fact - For Your Eyes Only takes its title from a collection of Bond short stories as well as a short story within that connection, but the plot of the actual film is a combination of the stories From A View To A Kill and Risico,
Octopussy is the title of a tale in For Your Eyes Only, but the story references an actual octopus that drowns a villain. The film A View To A Kill takes only the title from yet another entry of the volume of short stories and nothing more, The Living Daylights was arguably the last Fleming IP used until the Daniel Craig reset. (well, unless you don't include the small fragment about Felix Leiter being mutilated in License To Kill, which appears in the novel Live and Let Die.)
Posted by: A. Pendragon at October 03, 2021 03:27 AM (LATrI)
And the tragedy of Connery - he felt he was unattractive, feeling that he had an old man's face on a young man's body. A man that sent virtually every holder of an XX chromosome into rapture, and yet couldn't understand why that was.
Posted by: A. Pendragon at October 03, 2021 03:44 AM (LATrI)
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