Partisan Operative Media Begins Pushing Biden's Insane Talking Point that $3.5 Trillion Spending Plan Is Actually a Zero Dollar Spending Plan

Hey guys remember when NeverTrump foisted this sexually-assaulting demented clown on us to save us from all of Trump's Remorseless Lies (TM)?

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Joe Cunningham at RedState thinks he knows why Biden is pushing this insane lie: Because Joe Manchin is refusing to vote for it based on its cost and so Biden and all of his puppeteers are repeating "Hur-dur, akshually, it costs zero point zero zero dollars, hur-dur."

It's because Senator Joe Manchin has repeatedly brought up the cost in his public statements. Manchin's constituents don't want this much spending, so the rest of the party are rolling out this PR campaign in order to convince one state that itís cool and their Senator should get on board.

Itís not going to work out, though, because no one is actually falling for it.

For weeks, we have heard what the bill will cost. We have heard what it will pay for. We know it's going to cost something, but the Biden administration and the Democrats are out there trying to say it will have net zero costs. They are using a little creative wordplay to hide what they have been loudly proclaiming up until now: They are going to raise your taxes.

Oh the tax increases don't even begin to cover this massive spending.

You will not be very surprised to hear that Washington Post "journalists" are already chanting the DNC religious devotional hymn.

Posted by: Ace at 12:21 PM




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1 shazam

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2021 11:21 AM (QU5/8)

2 nd!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 27, 2021 11:22 AM (m+jkK)

3 The media will ever be dedicated Obamunists

Posted by: CN at September 27, 2021 11:22 AM (ONvIw)

4 Sure, Jan.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 27, 2021 11:22 AM (kTF2Z)

5 "We are tax and spend liberals!"

Bill Clinton probably would weep if he didn't have brain dead poon throwing themselves at him all the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:22 AM (LvTSG)

6 Yet they want to get the SALT stuff back.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:22 AM (csEWM)

7 We're gonna get stuck with this POS aren't we

Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 11:23 AM (8nD9v)

8 No more mean tweets.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 27, 2021 11:23 AM (T4kyF)

9 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at September 27, 2021 11:23 AM (MAaEj)

10 Bill Clinton probably would weep if he didn't have brain dead poon throwing themselves at him all the time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:22 AM (LvTSG)

One thing. For 40 some odd years, the liberals had to hide what they really wanted to do and who they really were. When Obama won, they figured that was all over. When Trump won, they doubled down on being completely insane. After the election was stolen, they see no reason to go back.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:24 AM (csEWM)

11 As if you could move 3.5 Trillion inside the market and have NO Effect...

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (rFDqD)

12
I don't know where they come up with this shit number, but I'll bet a nickel it's a CBO score. The CBO has zero credibility.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (Hou/x)

13 I still posit that J-School is for those students who cannot handle the intellectual rigors of a Physical Education Degree.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (flINI)

14 Tater is looking fatter than ever.

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (rFDqD)

15 Partisan Operative Media Begins Pushing Biden's Insane Talking Point that $3.5 Trillion Spending Plan Is Actually a Zero Dollar Spending Plan

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It also pays off the national debt after #twoweeks ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (slZUE)

16 When some in the GOP argued tax cuts would pay for themselves, it was derided as Voodoo Economics. But apparently spending will pay for itself. Good to know.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (QU5/8)

17 We're gonna get stuck with this POS aren't we
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 11:23 AM


*shakes Magic 8 Ball*

"you're fucked"

Not looking good, donna.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (m+jkK)

18 If it costs zero dollars, then you can pay me that and I will create more jobs and infrastructure in one year than this dem boondoggle would create in its duration.

Posted by: flounder at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (KnJdm)

19 Since when does "paid for" by someone means "costs nothing". Misinformation on speed.

Posted by: CN at September 27, 2021 11:26 AM (ONvIw)

20 If it costs zero, then why allocate any money at all?

What a bunch of brazen, lying, godless, fucking power hungry evil commies.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 27, 2021 11:26 AM (ufFY8)

21 "Net zero cost" is not the same as "does not contribute to the debt." The first would be true if every dollar in the new bill is cut out of someone else's budget. $3.5 trillion in costs offset by $3.5 in cuts elsewhere. That isn't what this, and it's not net-zero.

To "not contribute to the debt," it must be financed pay-go with new taxes or other revenue enhancements. This is what they're claiming. But it can't be done. It's too much money, and it can't be financed pay-go. It will add to the debt, period. They can't raise taxes enough to cover it because raising taxes *never* raises as much as they think. It never does.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:26 AM (Jsjd7)

22 "in the sense it will be entirely, or at least partly"


Just the tip!

Posted by: banana Dream at September 27, 2021 11:26 AM (nExiz)

23 My car cost me nothing because I paid for it.

Posted by: Catherine Rampell at September 27, 2021 11:26 AM (h5TKJ)

24 Once you're discovered to be a Vampire Carney its hard to get anyone to trust you. The media needs to go and molest children at this point.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 11:26 AM (HTCOy)

25 That Joe Biden is some kinda douchbag. Ginger Goebbles too.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2021 11:26 AM (szPRO)

26 14 Tater is looking fatter than ever.
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (rFDqD)

It's not fat, he's storing additional starch(es) for himself and his spud family.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 27, 2021 11:26 AM (5aFbR)

27 16 When some in the GOP argued tax cuts would pay for themselves, it was derided as Voodoo Economics. But apparently spending will pay for itself. Good to know.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (QU5/

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They're not arguing that the spending will pay for itself. They are arguing that there's enough to tax on an annual basis in the top 1% of Americans to cover the expenses while also insisting that there will be no negative economic impact.

Because they are both stupid and dishonest, depending on which is talking.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

28 Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Democrats' chairman of the House Budget Committee,
@RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"

https://tinyurl.com/p3vc9fy8

Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (NpAcC)

29 What idiocy. This woman is a columnist for the Washington Post.



She's smiling. Even she doesn't buy her own bullshit.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (OCTRt)

30 I don't get it. Are these nitwits insisting money taken out of the pocket of taxpayers is not actually money?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (cSyAR)

31 I don't think I've ever actually watched a Tater clip. Does he always do the chimpanzee smile?

Posted by: spindrift at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (h5TKJ)

32 When Obama won, they figured that was all over.

In fairness, W. told them it was over. Too-big-to-fail is the kind of B.S. that's too-good-not-to-reuse.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (QU5/8)

33 26 14 Tater is looking fatter than ever.
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (rFDqD)

It's not fat, he's storing additional starch(es) for himself and his spud family.
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Tater isn't fat. He's just big boned.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (HTCOy)

34 So they are saying they are taxing the 1% and corporations $3.5T.

Sure you are.

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (mbFEM)

35 28 Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Democrats' chairman of the House Budget Committee,
@RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"

https://tinyurl.com/p3vc9fy8
Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (NpAcC)

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I never thought the world would see a worse political class than the French Revolutionary government.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (LvTSG)

36 It sounds like the $3.5 trillion boondoggle is on life support, which means that theyay be afraid of The Squad's threat to pull their support for the other bill.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 27, 2021 11:28 AM (IjY9p)

37 So I went to Fiji on vacation, but I stole the money from someone else it was a zero sum vacation!

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 27, 2021 11:28 AM (NWbsw)

38 I was told there would be no math at the blog, and judging by this the Dems/MSM just want no math period.

Posted by: Flyguy at September 27, 2021 11:28 AM (3sOO0)

39 >>> Tater is looking fatter than ever.
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (rFDqD)


Starchy! (sans hutch)

Posted by: banana Dream at September 27, 2021 11:28 AM (nExiz)

40 We can't be out of money...the press still works and we've got plenty of ink and paper.

Posted by: BignJames at September 27, 2021 11:28 AM (AwYPR)

41 Rasmussen says no one buys his schtick any longer. If this were the Gong Show we would already be watching Gene, Gene, the Dancing Machine.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2021 11:28 AM (szPRO)

42 Honk.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 27, 2021 11:28 AM (/hXfz)

43 28 Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Democrats' chairman of the House Budget Committee,
@RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"

https://tinyurl.com/p3vc9fy8
Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (NpAcC)

Printing press goes BRRRRRRRR!

I can see no issue with printing all the moneys. Worked out well for the Weinmar Republic to pay off all that WWI debt, which is why they're still around, right?

Posted by: Thrawn at September 27, 2021 11:28 AM (5aFbR)

44 The Dems never tire of lying to us. And the MFM always amplifies the lies by hurriedly agreeing, and never asking any questions.

It.is.so.tiring.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 27, 2021 11:28 AM (F0YaR)

45 I never thought the world would see a worse political class than the French Revolutionary government.
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The Cambodians were able to top the French.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 11:29 AM (HTCOy)

46 5 "We are tax and spend liberals!"

Bill Clinton probably would weep if he didn't have brain dead poon throwing themselves at him all the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:22 AM (LvTSG)

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"It's not spending, h8rs -- it's INVESTMENT!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 27, 2021 11:29 AM (slZUE)

47 I won't know what to think until the NYT tells me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 11:29 AM (d9FiS)

48 That's like when I try to argue my Amazon stuff doesn't cost anything, the credit card pays for it.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at September 27, 2021 11:29 AM (shX0H)

49 I once bought a house that cost me nothing at all because I just wrote a check for the whole amount.

Posted by: Synova at September 27, 2021 11:29 AM (BD/yx)

50 But apparently spending will pay for itself. Good to know.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (QU5/

Hello!

Posted by: John Maynard Keynes at September 27, 2021 11:29 AM (R4Yaw)

51 41 Rasmussen says no one buys his schtick any longer. If this were the Gong Show we would already be watching Gene, Gene, the Dancing Machine.
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Dam, I did so love The Gong Show.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (HTCOy)

52 But first: It's not $3.5 Trillion they're talking about.
It will be more like $8 Trillion. Totally insane, but Insanity Rules! Bruh.

Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (S1hrL)

53 LOL zero dollars

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (CYnTg)

54 All this talk about debt, but they'll eventually sign on to a slightly smaller version of it and pretend its fiscally responsible.

Like your teenage daughter "but its on sale!" about a $450 belt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (KZzsI)

55 The $2.5 trillion bill, which actually doesn't cost anything, will give Jen Rubin another shrieking orgasm.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (cSyAR)

56 More turnip truck journalism I see.

Bet I can piss in her ear from here.



Posted by: dananjcon at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (u6xw0)

57
Newsflash, NYT: SWOT matrices are for healthy businesses, not basketcases propped up by Mexican telecom billionaires.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (Hou/x)

58 Yet they want to get the SALT stuff back.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:22 AM (csEWM)

well, the tax increases aren't for THEM, its those evil rich conservatives and corporations that will pay...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (8D42x)

59 What's that saying? When someone gives you something for free, you're the product.

In this case, it's your money, your kid(s)'s money, your grandkid(s)'s money. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (bDqIh)

60 @RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"
================

In total amazement, I agree: They actually think this is true.

The concept of work is so foreign to these people, Democrats think money comes from printing currency.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (szPRO)

61 >>@RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"


By that reasoning, they should encourage Conterfeiting.

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (rFDqD)

62 I still posit that J-School is for those students who cannot handle the intellectual rigors of a Physical Education Degree.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (flINI)

When the sociology majors look down on your degree....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (Q9lwr)

63 I'm supposed to believe Biden can predict the future when he can't even pronounce the present?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (UuD2k)

64 25 That Joe Biden is some kinda douchbag. Ginger Goebbles too.

Posted by: Huck Follywood

Biden's a real jerk.

Posted by: x at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (oA+QO)

65 It sounds like the $3.5 trillion boondoggle is on life support, which means that theyay be afraid of The Squad's threat to pull their support for the other bill.

They've done an excellent job of painting themselves into a corner. Protip: don't make threats on which you aren't prepared to deliver.

Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (ZsR3z)

66 I gotta say... whenever I see "hur-dur," my brain replaces it with 'wololo.'

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider, Fuck Joe Biden at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (cvNl1)

67 Leftists print Monopoly money worth 0 very soon

Posted by: Skip's Phone at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (IuZaD)

68 And, of course, the actual cost of these programs over 10 years to $5.5 trillion, so they lie and say the programs will only last 3 years. Maybe 2.

Riiiiight.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (F0YaR)

69 61 >>@RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"


By that reasoning, they should encourage Conterfeiting.
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (rFDqD)

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That's actually a great point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (LvTSG)

70 We'll start a go-fund-me! This spending bill will be net-zero.

- China White Joe

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (3TihK)

71 The car I just bought cost money because now I'm in debt. My groceries are always free, though. Gas, too. Because I just pay for those.

Posted by: Synova at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (BD/yx)

72 Apparently there's 3.5 billion in there for Tree Equity and I want in on some of that sweet sweet money.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (mf5HN)

73 The $2.5 trillion bill, which actually doesn't cost anything, will give Jen Rubin another shrieking orgasm.
Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (cSyAR)
++++
Blech.
Talk about diminishing marginal utility.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (Jsjd7)

74 65 It sounds like the $3.5 trillion boondoggle is on life support, which means that theyay be afraid of The Squad's threat to pull their support for the other bill.

They've done an excellent job of painting themselves into a corner. Protip: don't make threats on which you aren't prepared to deliver.
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (ZsR3z)

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Theory:

This is all a ploy to try and protect "moderate" Democrats in 2022. It is failure theater.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (LvTSG)

75 I like the way Hume tweets 'this woman is a columnist for the WAPO' ....as though that means something.

/something important, I mean

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at September 27, 2021 11:32 AM (HeKhk)

76 Tater is looking fatter than ever.
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2021

Starchy! (sans hutch)
Posted by: banana Dream at September 27, 2021


***
Husky and Starch, featuring an Alaskan sled dog and a potato

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 27, 2021 11:32 AM (/XOcP)

77 RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"


By that reasoning, they should encourage Conterfeiting.
Posted by: garrett


By that reasoning, we shouldn't have to pay taxes.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2021 11:32 AM (OCTRt)

78 A couple of lifelong demorats I know are now officially off the DNC train...they're in their 80s.

Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2021 11:32 AM (DJFLF)

79 I hope the spending bill passes. Hope they double or triple it.

The faster we go broke the better.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (/1l9x)

80 Wtf is up with Tater's mouth?

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (BRpqW)

81 45 I never thought the world would see a worse political class than the French Revolutionary government.
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The Cambodians were able to top the French.
Posted by: Puddin Head
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No they weren't. That's a rightwing lie.

Posted by: Noam Chomsky at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (9vQJW)

82 This is the time to induce Joe Manchin to switch parties. His state went 70-30 Trump-Biden in 2020, if he switches parties it is painless for him and his future as a Senator from WV. That single vote changes everything. It will be game over for the $3.5T plan, subpoena power to the GOP majority in the committees, the end of Kamala Harris breaking ties, etc. It's worth a lot and Manchin would be right to expect a great deal. The last time I remember it in happening in the Senate - was Shelby coming over from the Dark Side during the Reagan Administration.

Posted by: Emil Blatz at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (iaAVH)

83 the better argument is that it is just a shit show and none of the $ is worth anything anyway

Posted by: confederatefifth at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (K3ZCc)

84 By that reasoning, they should encourage Conterfeiting.
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2021 11:30 AM (rFDqD)
++++
They fully support counterfeiting - so long as you call it things like "synthetic structured financial derivatives" or "naked short-selling." If you do it that way, they'll bail you out with freshly-printed money if it blows up in your face.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (Jsjd7)

85 Theory:

This is all a ploy to try and protect "moderate" Democrats in 2022. It is failure theater.

Discuss.


So, their approach is to make themselves all look like corrupt blithering idiots, thereby assuring reelection? Makes as much sense as anything else they say.

Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (ZsR3z)

86 78 A couple of lifelong demorats I know are now officially off the DNC train...they're in their 80s.
Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2021 11:32 AM (DJFLF)

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"They're racist. There, that should bring them back to the fold."
-The NYT

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (LvTSG)

87 Honestly I don't know why the Democrats even bother with taxes, its obvious they see no connection between raising money and spending it. It has to be just a control mechanism, using taxes to manipulate behavior.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (KZzsI)

88 You could make your Mr Potato Head look like Stelter

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (CYnTg)

89 Is Tater still sitting at home in his tighty whities?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (cSyAR)

90


There is not enough tax revenue ever collected to cover what these idiots spend.

Tax raises are just punitive.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (4WPW/)

91 it seems pretty clear to me that the goal is to finally bankrupt the country, after which we can finally begin building the world wide happy Socialist Paradise.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (4a9Vv)

92 The Left and MFM know that half the country is brain dead clueless. They say whatever they want, fearlessly, knowing that lots of morons believe them.

Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 11:34 AM (S1hrL)

93 The wonderful thing about taxes
Is taxes are wonderful things
Tops are made out of rubber
Their bottoms are made out of springs
Their bouncey, trouncey, ouncey, pouncey
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 11:34 AM (d9FiS)

94 They've done an excellent job of painting themselves into a corner. Protip: don't make threats on which you aren't prepared to deliver.
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (ZsR3z)


Ha! You're forgetting the "Over The Horizon" threat. Totes legit.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 27, 2021 11:34 AM (AiZBA)

95

"Let's not talk about numbers and dollars. Let's talk about values," said Pelosi, when pressed about a proposed $3.5 trillion spending bill.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2021 11:34 AM (63Dwl)

96 If it costs nothing then there is no problem. And my farts smell of freshly bake muffins.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 11:34 AM (HTCOy)

97 Has anyone ever seen Tater and The Pillsbury Doughboy in the same room together?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:34 AM (cSyAR)

98 A couple of lifelong demorats I know are now officially off the DNC train...they're in their 80s.


so they got everything they wanted now they want somebody to save their ss, nice

Posted by: confederatefifth at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (K3ZCc)

99 97 Has anyone ever seen Tater and The Pillsbury Doughboy in the same room together?
Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:34 AM (cSyAR)

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Yes.

It wasn't for very long.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

100 Quantitative Easing is Magic, as is MMT. Just print it baby.

Their are variations on that theme, and I'm fuzzy on details ... BUT ... why print bonds and have to pay interest on them, when they can just QE it and put it on the Fed Reserve books?

(there have not been enough buyers anyway, and that is with the crises still pushing the world into the "Safe Haven" of the USD ... it won't be considered safe if they keep printing trillions for their socialist dream machine)

But afaik, if they QE it all, it is zero interest free money ... the real cost is in inflation, which steals from savers. The QE machine started under Obama with $1T per year ... not sure about under Trump, except the Plandemic crisis suddenly cranked out ? $5T or so? and I think that is continuing ... at a slower pace, even now?

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (Cus5s)

101 Mom, I'm ready for Kaboom.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (/hXfz)

102 The Dems - the party of insiders, of Wall St, of silicon valley, of rich mega-galas and Hollywood - is trying to go back to claiming they are against the "rich"? Who in hell is going to believe this?

Posted by: Mookie at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (u+Y3T)

103 Ha, just happened across that "idiocy" comment from Hume. He's a lightweight, but things are so far gone even he is fairly reliable. And behold the kind of airhead that now gets columnist duties at the WaPo. 98% of columnists have always been sad and unworthy of much notice, but now, all boats having been lowered, they're *this* ignorant and stupid.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (OTzUX)

104 "Let's not talk about numbers and dollars. Let's talk about values," said Pelosi, when pressed about a proposed $3.5 trillion spending bill.

Okay, I value the money I earned, so how about NO!

Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (ZsR3z)

105 $3.5 Trillion dollar bill that won't cost taxpayers anything? This wouldn't because they are just going to print the money, would it?

Only savings I've heard was going after corporations and the uber-wealthy - but I think the number of additional tax revenue they are getting would be about $180 billion. That is a long way to $3.5T

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (N39Ws)

106 102 The Dems - the party of insiders, of Wall St, of silicon valley, of rich mega-galas and Hollywood - is trying to go back to claiming they are against the "rich"? Who in hell is going to believe this?
Posted by: Mookie at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (u+Y3T)

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The activist left.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

107 Wtf is up with Tater's mouth?
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM

A night of Lon Demon pumping it?

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (NWbsw)

108 Theory:

This is all a ploy to try and protect "moderate" Democrats in 2022. It is failure theater.

Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:31 AM (LvTSG)

Maybe, but I don't think so. There's billions in there for various Dem grievance groups that will be used to promote them for the 2022/2024 elections.

Sure, if it's truly the case that elections dont matter anymore, they'll cheat anyway, but having those moneys for electioneering will mean that they'll have to cheat less. Which lessens the chances more plebes will get wise to the scam.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 27, 2021 11:36 AM (5aFbR)

109 "Let's not talk about numbers and dollars. Let's talk about values," said Pelosi, when pressed about a proposed $3.5 trillion spending bill.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2021 11:34 AM (63Dwl)
++++
Centrally-planned economies, massive spending, huge deficits, government command-and-control, inflation, etc. is counter to my values, Nan.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:36 AM (Jsjd7)

110 "it's this weird shorthand that does not mean anything"

Posted by: confederatefifth at September 27, 2021 11:36 AM (K3ZCc)

111 >>> Posted by: Emil Blatz at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (iaAVH)


That would take away these asshole's power there's nothing for them to gain by switching unless it's right before their election.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 27, 2021 11:36 AM (nExiz)

112 Tater isn't fat. He's just big boned.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (HTCOy)

But enough about his anal retentiveness.

Posted by: flounder at September 27, 2021 11:36 AM (KnJdm)

113 "Let's not talk about numbers and dollars. Let's talk about values," said Pelosi, when pressed about a proposed $3.5 trillion spending bill.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2021


***
She hasn't been "pressed" enough.

Peine forte et dure sounds about right.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 27, 2021 11:36 AM (/XOcP)

114 This is the time to induce Joe Manchin to switch parties. His state went 70-30 Trump-Biden in 2020, if he switches parties it is painless for him and his future as a Senator from WV.

What's his incentive? He's 74, and not up for reelection until 2024. He may not even run again.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2021 11:37 AM (QU5/8)

115 @RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"

-
Is this that new math I've been hearing about?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 11:37 AM (d9FiS)

116 Tater isn't fat. He's just big boned.

Posted by: Puddin Head


He's built like an elephant, then.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2021 11:37 AM (OCTRt)

117 Wtf is up with Tater's mouth?
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM

Pedo smile.

Posted by: flounder at September 27, 2021 11:37 AM (KnJdm)

118 Nazis values were formulated in the pit of hell.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:37 AM (cSyAR)

119 I hope the spending bill passes. Hope they double or triple it.

The faster we go broke the better.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (/1l9x)

Are you a glutton for punishment? It will pass, it will be twice what they say it is, and we will go broker than we are now.

Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (S1hrL)

120 btw, if Jen Psucki is Pepperment Patty, who is Marcie in this scenario?

Posted by: Thrawn at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (5aFbR)

121 This is something I have been thinking about. Assume sanity returned.

Let's say, by some miracle we could, with a snap of our fingers make all this go away. Let's say we got every wish list item. Liquidate every useless dept. Cut spending down to just the essentials. Eliminate all taxes. Go with the sales tax idea. No printing of money at all.

How long would it take to get rid of the debt?

Part of the point of all of this is that it is a poison pill for America. Destroy it so fully that people will cry out for communism- because it will lie to them that they can get everything at no cost to them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (csEWM)

122 It won't cost one thin dime; it'll cost 3.5T dimes.

Posted by: ahem at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (KTzF6)

123 Wouldn't every household have like a $50,000 increase in their taxes to pay for something like a $3.5 Trillion stimulus?

You can't fund that going after "billionaires" and Fortune 500 companies that don't pay taxes anyway. It's going to have to come from the middle class.

Even a partisan CBO is not going to be able to pretend it's deficit neutral.

Posted by: Blago at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (PwNLq)

124 This is the time to induce Joe Manchin to switch parties. His state went 70-30 Trump-Biden in 2020, if he switches parties it is painless for him and his future as a Senator from WV.

What's his incentive?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls


Cash?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (OCTRt)

125 100 illiniwek

Think that moving the dollar out of the "safe harbor" territory is a FNAB for some folks who owe the Chinese. Paying off their pets is an added benefit.

Posted by: EveR at September 27, 2021 11:39 AM (MUpk6)

126 A couple of lifelong demorats I know are now officially off the DNC train...they're in their 80s.
so they got everything they wanted now they want somebody to save their ss, nice
Posted by: confederatefifth at September 27, 2021 11:35 AM (K3ZCc)

Concur. Moochers who voted for Looters.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 27, 2021 11:39 AM (/1l9x)

127 Thursday is payday. So anything I buy with that pay check costs me $0.00, right? Good to know.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 27, 2021 11:39 AM (nfrXX)

128 IIRC, this "pays for itself" over 10 years, just as every spending bill is calculated to be paid off over a number of years -- yet we keep passing these yearly, often of late, several within a year.

That's like taking on a new car debt every year, claiming it's OK, it'll be paid off in 4-5 years as you accumulate a fleet of new cars for which you cannot even dream of making payments on.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2021 11:39 AM (bDqIh)

129 120 btw, if Jen Psucki is Pepperment Patty, who is Marcie in this scenario?


Maddow?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 27, 2021 11:39 AM (j9HX3)

130 Can Senile Joe count higher than 20?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:39 AM (cSyAR)

131 The gaslighting is part of the kink.

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2021 11:39 AM (mbFEM)

132 Well Biden thinks there are actual trillionaires in the country to tax

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2021 11:40 AM (CYnTg)

133 Lava takes a church steeple.

https://bit.ly/3APbVXD

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 11:40 AM (d9FiS)

134 118 Nazis values were formulated in the pit of hell.
Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:37 AM (cSyAR)

Not wrong, but also not quite right. It was people. It was no different than Diocletian. Or any other of a handful of people who tried to make the world work the way they think it should work, rather than how it does.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:40 AM (csEWM)

135 Remember when Lucy promised to pay Charlie Brown millions of dollars if she tricked him by pulling the football away one more time, then after he landed flat on his back once again she sprinkled him with imaginary millions of dollars saying, "Here's your millions of dollars Charlie Brown, ya blockhead! Ha ha ha!"? Exactly like that.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2021 11:40 AM (Xwt96)

136 Does Manchin really believe the people of West Virginia are that dumb?

Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2021 11:40 AM (h3FHK)

137 A once-in-a-generation "investment" that will be spent repeatedly, annually, in perpetuity, via continuing resolutions.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:40 AM (SfD1B)

138 His state went 70-30 Trump-Biden in 2020, if he switches parties it is painless for him and his future as a Senator from WV.

He's probably got one issue he is super left wing on and won't compromise, like abortion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 11:40 AM (KZzsI)

139
What's his incentive?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

Being able to write his legacy book as 'The Man Who Saved the Republic" in fifteen years.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider, Fuck Joe Biden at September 27, 2021 11:40 AM (cvNl1)

140 This "zero cost" lie is almost as insulting as the "tax expenditure" concept that as popular a few years back. Meaning that a tax cut (i.e. letting us keep some $$ we earned) is really a government expenditure....

Some GOP toadies also used that "tax expenditure" line, of course.

Posted by: pikkumatti at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (vjH93)

141 That's like taking on a new car debt every year, claiming it's OK, it'll be paid off in 4-5 years as you accumulate a fleet of new cars for which you cannot even dream of making payments on.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2021 11:39 AM (bDqIh)

This is exactly right. They talk about all of these in a vacuum, by itself.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (csEWM)

142 Is Tater still sitting at home in his tighty whities?
Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (cSyAR)


Probably. And we'll probably be subjected to another picture of it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (Ez6QX)

143 What's his incentive?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls


Cash?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (OCTRt)


Manchin's daughter is still a big PHARMA CEO, right?

If he switched parties she'd be under indictment for something tout suite.

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (mbFEM)

144 Biden's Insane Talking Point that $3.5 Trillion Spending Plan Is Actually a Zero Dollar Spending Plan


You can fool some of the people all of the time. Especially some of the dumb-asses of today.

A. Lincoln

Posted by: Archer at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (gmo/4)

145 I get paid every two weeks so in essence, everything I've ever bought is free?

That's awesome!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (KbCG3)

146 Some blurb of something from, I think, National Journal, another old line outfit that was occasionally marginally readable decades ago, contains the phrase the "Democrats' limited mandate".

"Mandate".

Erasing the border, inviting chaos and mass illegal migration? Shutting down the oil industry?* Mandating vaccines? Grossly mismanaging the final chapter in A'stan? Promoting (instead of squashing) crude, crazy racist indoctrination in American institutions including the military? Worsening the calamitous insane spending binge that was already a disaster?

How do these things relate to any "mandate"? Joe didn't run, and the limp bizarre empty slogans surrounding his non-campaign probably could not be ID'd or their meaning even guessed at by 90% of Biden voters.

* actually said by a "presidential candidate" in a presidential campaign "debate" - and he got more than 25% of the vote - your short-hand for a collapsed society

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (OTzUX)

147 And why haven't you people gotten your free COVID shot?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (SfD1B)

148 138 His state went 70-30 Trump-Biden in 2020, if he switches parties it is painless for him and his future as a Senator from WV.

He's probably got one issue he is super left wing on and won't compromise, like abortion.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 11:40 AM (KZzsI)

========

He has a level of seniority in the Democratic Party that Mitch probably would have trouble matching. This makes it more profitable for him personally as he gets higher places on committees.

Also, as a Democratic swing vote, he gets a whole lot of attention, that whore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

149 I've never before seen so many dumbshits. Not y'all, them, lol

Posted by: four seasons at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (oT1NJ)

150 This is the time to induce Joe Manchin to switch parties. His state went 70-30 Trump-Biden in 2020, if he switches parties it is painless for him and his future as a Senator from WV. That single vote changes everything.
Posted by: Emil Blatz

Manchin is actually quite a craphound (well, most of them are, after all). If he changes parties, there will be a shitload of oppo stuff dumped on him by the Media. Maybe he is afraid of that, maybe he doesn't care.

None dare call it blackmail.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 11:42 AM (vcOmj)

151 147 And why haven't you people gotten your free COVID shot?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:41 AM (SfD1B)

=======

Because Kamala told me it was dangerous.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:42 AM (LvTSG)

152 My neighbor was going on and on about her new solar energy system. "I don't have to make any payments on it for a few years."

I looked into it the ROI was not great. The crossover point was way out there.

Well. She won.

She died and now her kids are saddled with the debt.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 27, 2021 11:42 AM (xopIz)

153 If you'd like to support a patriotic company AND wear a shirt that says, simply...

#FJB

https://tinyurl.com/FJBshirt

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider, #FJB. If you get it, you get it. at September 27, 2021 11:42 AM (cvNl1)

154 A couple of lifelong demorats I know are now officially off the DNC train...they're in their 80s.
Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2021 11:32 AM (DJFLF)
*********
I sure hope it doesn't take the rest of country this long.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2021 11:42 AM (NpAcC)

155 Put Nanzi's head in a press. Let's see what she says.

Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 11:42 AM (S1hrL)

156 The average salary for a person who lives in West Virginia is less then $59k a year. I'm sure they'll understand the fiscal irresponsibility and tax increases, rubes that they are- right Manchin?

Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (h3FHK)

157 Well, when you think about it Dem's are so fuckin lazy in the mind that they will actually believe a 3.5 Trillion dollars budget will cost them zero dollars.

Posted by: sidney at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (LJJah)

158 "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"

Next time you run into some yo-yo spouting this kind of MMT gibberish, just ask them, if there's no kind of drawback to just printing all the money you need for various boondoggles, why have taxes at all?

Oh, the FUN you'll have!

Posted by: William F 'Buck' Dharma at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (0/qYZ)

159 136 Does Manchin really believe the people of West Virginia are that dumb?
Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2021 11:40 AM (h3FHK)


They've elected him 3 times to the Senate. He knows the score.

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (mbFEM)

160 Let's say, by some miracle we could, with a snap of our fingers make all this go away. Let's say we got every wish list item. Liquidate every useless dept. Cut spending down to just the essentials. Eliminate all taxes. Go with the sales tax idea. No printing of money at all.
How long would it take to get rid of the debt? ...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (csEWM)
++++
Okay. Let's assume a 10% flat federal tax on all new final goods and services with zero exemptions. GDP is about $21 trillion, so that would raise about $2.1 trillion in revenue, plus whatever comes in through fees and tariffs. If spending could be brought down to $1.25 trillion, plus the about half a trillion in interest service, we could put about a quarter trillion per year into retiring date. So that's four years per trillion and a national debt of about $30 trillion, so that's 120 years.

Give or take.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (Jsjd7)

161 I'm hoping they find a vein when Joe gets his booster.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (xopIz)

162 120 btw, if Jen Psucki is Pepperment Patty, who is Marcie in this scenario?

used to be marie harf. don't know who it is these days.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (v3pYe)

163 And why haven't you people gotten your free COVID shot?
=======
Because Kamala told me it was dangerous.

**

That was Trump's shot. It's racism now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (SfD1B)

164 Listen, Mom buys my food, rent, cable, internet. So they cost like zero.

She makes me buy my own weed, so that costs actual money.

Posted by: One of your fully-vaxxed social betters at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (RKp8A)

165 Senate Finance Chair Ron Wyden wants to tax billionaires' unrealized wealth gains annually.

Biden said he supports the proposal as a potential method to fund Democrats' social-spending bill.

"I come from the corporate state of America," Biden said. "I just think it's about just paying your fair share, for Lord's sake."

Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (RHGPo)

166 Zero is my hero! - the leftists.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (r5BVk)

167 How many times does Manchin get to tell the people of West Virginia to pick up that nickel off the floor?

Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2021 11:44 AM (h3FHK)

168 I'm hoping they find a vein when Joe gets his booster.

**

Does saline do something in those situations?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:44 AM (SfD1B)

169 Mylan Labs Manchin is not switching parties.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 27, 2021 11:44 AM (mwHf9)

170 165 "I come from the corporate state of America," Biden said. "I just think it's about just paying your fair share, for Lord's sake."
Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (RHGPo)

==========

"What the ever living fuck. He doesn't mean this does he?"
-Every corporation of America that backed Biden instead of Trump, which is all of them

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:44 AM (LvTSG)

171 A couple of lifelong demorats I know are now officially off the DNC train...they're in their 80s.
Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2021 11:32 AM (DJFLF)
If they're in their 80s, they'll be back on the DNC train before too long.

Posted by: DNC at September 27, 2021 11:44 AM (R4Yaw)

172 Tatter is looking fatter just like others have noticed. So I am noticing that Nancy must have had her skin stretched again and again. She now has a forever smile and no turkey neck which she was covering with a scarf. (and some Botox)

Posted by: Colin at September 27, 2021 11:44 AM (ez4Ug)

173 How about a 3X penalty for non-payment of taxes on gross income of over $1 million

Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (RHGPo)

174 40 We can't be out of money...the press still works and we've got plenty of ink and paper.
Posted by: BignJames at September 27, 2021 11:28 AM (AwYPR)

When my daughter was 7, she told me we weren't out of money because I still had checks in the ol' checkbook.

A brief analysis reveals the mental age of anything 'progressive' and further left...

Posted by: apb at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (9+vx7)

175 Give or take.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:43 AM (Jsjd7)

That is my point. Poison pill.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (csEWM)

176 btw, if Jen Psucki is Pepperment Patty, who is Marcie in this scenario?

**

The gay dude who had the butt baby.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (SfD1B)

177 It won't cost one thin dime; it'll cost 3.5T dimes.
Posted by: ahem


SILVER DIMES!!!! - Ron Paul

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (vcOmj)

178 It won't cost one thin dime; it'll cost 3.5T dimes.

Posted by: ahem at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (KTzF6)

Math alert.

Posted by: BignJames at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (AwYPR)

179 We need all of those Haitians in the country, as they will help pay for some of that $3.5T.

Also, the most recent transmission I received from the Zetas informed me that our solar system will soon be entering a part of the Milky Way that will wipe out coronaviruses.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (TNyrE)

180 >>> 30 I don't get it. Are these nitwits insisting money taken out of the pocket of taxpayers is not actually money?
Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:27 AM (cSyAR)

It's actually money. Actually, it's *our* money. We just loaned it out and now we're taking it back.

Posted by: congresscritters at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (ACi07)

181 So that's four years per trillion and a national debt of about $30 trillion, so that's 120 years.

So you're saying there's a chance....

Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (ZsR3z)

182 Joe Manchin is the putrid toe cheese left behind in his clown shoes. It's beyond belief how he keeps getting re-elected.

Posted by: Capital Eff at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (dynG0)

183
When some in the GOP argued tax cuts would pay for themselves, it was derided as Voodoo Economics.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2021 11:25 AM (QU5/


Don't forget, it was severely conservative George HW Bush who came up with that schtick during the '80 primary season while he was trying to kneecap Reagan.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (n+4am)

184 Euphemism alert!

From the respected medical journal The Lancet:

"Historically, the anatomy and physiology of bodies with vaginas have been neglected."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 11:46 AM (d9FiS)

185 Meaning that a tax cut (i.e. letting us keep some $$ we earned) is really a government expenditure....

They've slashed spending on children!!! (translation: they cut the increase we proposed this year by half)

I looked into it the ROI was not great. The crossover point was way out there.

I keep trying to get writers to understand this about advertising their book. Will it increase sales? Probably. But it has to increase sales by at least as much as it cost you to advertise or you may as well lit a fire with that money.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 11:46 AM (KZzsI)

186 The U.S. population is approximately 1/3 of a billion. So to raise $1 trillion, it takes $3,000 on average in taxes from everyone in the country, babies, elderly, prisoners, illegal aliens-everyone. $5 trillion requires $15,000.

There is no way we're paying this back without hyperinflation.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 27, 2021 11:46 AM (xqRaG)

187 184 Euphemism alert!

From the respected medical journal The Lancet:

"Historically, the anatomy and physiology of bodies with vaginas have been neglected."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 11:46 AM (d9FiS)

========

Is this a piece about how rape culture is a myth?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

188 Hey corporations, remember when the racists were asking that everyone that made over $30K or so per year paid 10% of their income, full stop, the end, and that was it?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:46 AM (SfD1B)

189 This woman is a 5th columnist for the Washington Post.

Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (RHGPo)

190 "I come from the corporate state of America," Biden said. "I just think it's about just paying your fair share, for Lord's sake."

Dear Joe,
what is their fair share? Use numbers.

Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (ZsR3z)

191 Who the guy who started a media shriek by suggesting taxes are taken at gunpoint?
Maybe I'm misremembering.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (cSyAR)

192 Piggybacking off of the last thread:

Gee, I wonder why the media has such a credibility problem.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (KbCG3)

193 There is no way we're paying this back without hyperinflation.

***

Well that's easy. We don't intend to. When's the last time you heard anyone at the federal level run on the debt or deficit?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (SfD1B)

194 Hey the cost of these hookers and this blow is basically free since I put it on the company credit card right? That's how this stuff works right?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (47hdK)

195 Gender is a construct but the bodies with vaginas are still subject to neglect....

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (CYnTg)

196 When some in the GOP argued tax cuts would pay for themselves, it was derided as Voodoo Economics.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

This is Satanic economics.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (d9FiS)

197 There is no way we're paying this back without hyperinflation.
Posted by: zmdavid at September 27, 2021 11:46 AM (xqRaG)


Uh-oh. You've broken the code.

Have fun in the camps.

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (mbFEM)

198 Hey the cost of these hookers and this blow is basically free since I put it on the company credit card right? That's how this stuff works right?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (47hdK)

Ummmmmm....Yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (/1l9x)

199 When my daughter was 7, she told me we weren't out of money because I still had checks in the ol' checkbook./i]

They grow out of that ever?

From the formerly respected medical journal The Lancet...

fixed it for you

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 11:48 AM (KZzsI)

200 Joe "Zimbabwe Bucks" Biden

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 27, 2021 11:48 AM (M+Lyo)

201 "Historically, the anatomy and physiology of bodies with vaginas have been neglected."

Speak for yourselves.

Posted by: Adolescent males at September 27, 2021 11:48 AM (ZsR3z)

202 That is my point. Poison pill.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:45 AM (csEWM)
++++
Probably. If it were handled with an acceptable level of corruption, though, it would likely unchain the economy, too. The economy won't be at $21 trillion in ten years, it'll probably be at 30 or 35 (accounting for the -$5-7 trillion move that such a huge government realignment would cause). Each year of growth is a year of greater debt repayment - or fiscal sequestering to pay the debt when it comes due. So it would likely not take 120 years, it would probably take closer to 60-75 - but it will never happen anyway and so it's entirely academic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:48 AM (Jsjd7)

203
"idiot" and "columnist for the WaPo"

What is a redundancy, Alex?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2021 11:48 AM (q/B0M)

204 187 184 Euphemism alert!

From the respected medical journal The Lancet:

"Historically, the anatomy and physiology of bodies with vaginas have been neglected."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 11:46 AM (d9FiS)

I don't understand why garbage like this doesn't enrage women.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:48 AM (cSyAR)

205 There is no way we're paying this back without hyperinflation.
Posted by: z




what do you think qe is?

Posted by: confederatefifth at September 27, 2021 11:48 AM (K3ZCc)

206 It's free money!! Weeeee!! The rich will pay for it! Really!!

Posted by: Dumbass Democrats and other Biden Voters at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (h3FHK)

207 204 I don't understand why garbage like this doesn't enrage women.
Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:48 AM (cSyAR)

=======

Men make the best women.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

208 Non-racist, non-white supremist, gender fluid math is da bomb, ain't it?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (BFigT)

209 Smug little twit Catherine Rampell is some kinda dumb. Grew up in Palm Beach, apparently, went to Princeton, married an academic, and has zero clue about the economy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (szPRO)

210 @RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"

--------

The objective of Monopoly is bankruptcy -- so that's where the analogy holds ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (Ga2pu)

211 193 There is no way we're paying this back without hyperinflation.

***

Well that's easy. We don't intend to. When's the last time you heard anyone at the federal level run on the debt or deficit?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (SfD1B)

Yeah, that's the best part. We are going to get hyperinflation AND massive debt. Yay.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (csEWM)

212

OT


FUNERAL DIRECTOR talks about Covid. JOHN O'LOONEY
https://tinyurl.com/y7stzcr9

will scare the living daylights out of you
the entire piece is worth listening to

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (2o90I)

213 Perhaps in the spirit of Nation Lampoon (if you don't buy this magazine we will shoot this fog), we could hold a gun to Hunter Biden's head.

Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

214 Man, if only Paul Ryan were here to help come to an agreement where we might potentially not spend $80B of the $3.5T over the next decade.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (SfD1B)

215 she has an unfortunate twitter hash

Posted by: confederatefifth at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (K3ZCc)

216 This will pass with republican votes in the house and senate.

All of the last min posturing is just intimidation and blackmail.

Posted by: MJ at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (zwDuR)

217 Test

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (cMXNt)

218 There is no way we're paying this back without hyperinflation.

There is a way, but its in the same realm of possibility as Kate Upton knocking on my door and begging me to take her in.

Government cuts spending to the point where they are spending less than they take in, combined with a blazing economy like the kind Trump was building.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (KZzsI)

219 Perhaps in the spirit of National Lampoon (if you don't buy this magazine we will shoot this dog), we could hold a gun to Hunter Biden's head.

Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (RHGPo)

220 Don't forget there is always the VAT tax. Of course it just goes along with the taxes that are paid now.

Posted by: Colin at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (ez4Ug)

221 There is no way we're paying this back without hyperinflation.
Posted by: zmdavid at September 27, 2021 11:46 AM (xqRaG)
++++
We can, and it's what they're trying. They're going to try the "high inflation" route. High inflation - even very high - and hyperinflation are not the same things. The former is a monetary phenomenon, the latter is a political phenomenon. High inflation can work by robbing the productive, but we have a problem with that, too, which is that much of the total debt is cyclically refinanced on fairly short terms. After five years, a whole lot of the total turns over and will do so at higher interest rates (probably, unless Fed starts buying directly and below-market prices), starting the cycle anew.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (Jsjd7)

222 So sick of these imbeciles pretending that massive government spending on bullshit programs and give-aways somehow don't cost us anything.

"But we're only raising taxes on evil, rich corporations, so it won't cost Average Joe anything!" is total bullshit.

When corporations get hit with higher taxes they just pass those higher taxes on to the rest of us by raising prices on goods and services. So Average Joe always ends up paying for this shit, one way or another.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (k4dH2)

223 Oh, Joe DiGenova on the radio this morning. He assured us that morale at CBP was very low and the rank and file are "outraged."

He told us that about eh FBI, too.

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (mbFEM)

224 We neglect the hell out of bodies with vaginas.

Posted by: Shep Smith and Don Lemon at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (d9FiS)

225 Just remember, you'll own nothing and you will be much happier. Cause they said so.

Posted by: Mookie at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (u+Y3T)

226 Why do they want to see all withdrawals over $600 from our bank accounts?

They're seeing "what they need," says Nanzi.

Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (S1hrL)

227 Government cuts spending to the point where they are spending less than they take in

I....I just don't understand what you're trying to say. It makes no sense.

Posted by: Dems at September 27, 2021 11:51 AM (ZsR3z)

228 211 193 There is no way we're paying this back without hyperinflation.

***

Well that's easy. We don't intend to. When's the last time you heard anyone at the federal level run on the debt or deficit?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:47 AM (SfD1B)

Yeah, that's the best part. We are going to get hyperinflation AND massive debt. Yay.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (csEWM)

------

Just in time for my retirement

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 27, 2021 11:51 AM (cMXNt)

229 Don't forget there is always the VAT tax. Of course it just goes along with the taxes that are paid now.
Posted by: Colin at September 27, 2021 11:50 AM (ez4Ug)
++++
:: spits ::
VATs are egregious and dishonest at every conceivable level. Only a genuine, grade A, top choice asshole could have come up with them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:51 AM (Jsjd7)

230 So will Justice Roberts rule this not a tax?

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 11:51 AM (HTCOy)

231 227 Government cuts spending to the point where they are spending less than they take in

I....I just don't understand what you're trying to say. It makes no sense.
Posted by: Dems at September 27, 2021 11:51 AM (ZsR3z)

========

"I've got an idea. Let's use the full force of the federal government to make him pay for that idea."
-GOPe

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

232
This administration will downbuild the upbuild. Only fools do not know this.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 27, 2021 11:51 AM (2iDSr)

233 >Nancy must have had her skin stretched again and again. She now has a forever smile and no turkey neck which she was covering with a scarf. (and some Botox)

Got to be honest, when I start really showing age, I think I'm just going to roll with it. I've already got plenty of laugh lines, and I feel like I earned those suckers. If I get a turkey neck too, whatever.

As for debt, more and more I feel the solution is Texit.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at September 27, 2021 11:51 AM (8548M)

234 VATs are egregious and dishonest at every conceivable level. Only a genuine, grade A, top choice asshole could have come up with them.
-------------------
See Europe.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 11:52 AM (HTCOy)

235 Fucking Moriarti has less sinister plans.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 27, 2021 11:52 AM (/hXfz)

236 233 >Nancy must have had her skin stretched again and again. She now has a forever smile and no turkey neck which she was covering with a scarf. (and some Botox)


Her nipples are now on the back of her head.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 27, 2021 11:52 AM (cSyAR)

237 "if only Paul Ryan were here to help come to an agreement where we might potentially not spend $80B of the $3.5T over the next decade."

I'll bet it would involve amnesty.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 11:52 AM (Ectld)

238 The objective of Monopoly is bankruptcy -- so that's where the analogy holds ...
Posted by: ShainS

Yeah. Everybody goes bankrupt except the winner in Monopoly.

Ta-da! The game in question now is, who will be "the winner" here? Because it is not We The People. We lose.
$3.5T Stimulus spending on top of the Federal budget is going to cause rampant inflation. So many, many dollars chasing fewer goods.
Bust a move, Joe.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (vcOmj)

239 ...bodies with vaginas...

That's an awkward phrase. Somebody should invent a word that means the same thing.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (nfrXX)

240 Has anyone mentioned the Spartacus Letter (re: COVID) that Zerohedge had today?

It's verrrrrrrry interesting (link in my sig, probably a good idea to dl the pdf just in case)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (j9HX3)

241 Nancy must have had her skin stretched again and again. She now has a forever smile and no turkey neck which she was covering with a scarf.

I'd like to see Nancy's neck get stretched, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Archer at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (gmo/4)

242 See Europe.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 11:52 AM (HTCOy)
++++
Yup. Case in point...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (Jsjd7)

243
This is the time to induce Joe Manchin to switch parties.
Posted by: Emil Blatz at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (iaAVH)


Fuck no. He would never be a reliable vote, and we already have enough problems with stealth Donks in the GOP. If he crawls over to The Turtle begging to be allowed to jump ship to the GOP side of the aisle, maybe. But the GOP shouldn't offer him shit to cross over.

There's a reason why traitors are never trusted again. The Limeys considered Arnold to be lower than whale shit at the bottom of the sea, and treated him accordingly. The Soviets kept Philby drunk in what was effectively a basement office after they'd squeezed all the decent intel out of him (most of which was outdated by the time he defected anyway).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (n+4am)

244 Her nipples are now on the back of her head.

If she just hangs in there for a few more years, she can lap herself.

Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (ZsR3z)

245 "Think that moving the dollar out of the "safe harbor" territory is a FNAB for some folks who owe the Chinese. Paying off their pets is an added benefit."

feature not a bug, right. ... But I think it is maybe the DeepState/oligarch/Foundation globalists that plan to run the New World Order, or at least control currencies (IMF/BIS/etc.) and move USA out of reserve currency status. ... That is when things will get more expensive ... our dollars won't buy so much in foreign goods ...

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (Cus5s)

246 It's going to crush the economy. There are already warning signs in the markets. Record inflation, costs are up and consumer spending is going down. There are large dislocations on the job market. Illegal immigration of millions is starting to draw down on services, hospitals and the most importantly the American taxpayer.

But yeah, $3.5 trillion, the most ever is not that bad to Democrats Media Dick Holsters.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (h3FHK)

247 It won't cost one thin dime; it'll cost 3.5T dimes.
Posted by: ahem at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (KTzF6)


Somebody's gonna have to go back and get a whole shitload of dimes!

Posted by: Taggart at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (Ez6QX)

248 When the Left lies, they but speak their native tongue.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 27, 2021 11:54 AM (yQpMk)

249 This slim blonde showing off some underboob doesn't know much about math or politics, but she knows that Biden's lying his ass off:
https://is.gd/gqKW1I

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:54 AM (Jsjd7)

250 in fairness, between the qe and hi, 3.5 tr is not what it used to be.

Posted by: confederatefifth at September 27, 2021 11:54 AM (K3ZCc)

251 Of course it's idiocy, Brit. We're run by idiots. And professional idiots "report" on the issues only insofar as they can protect and spin for democrats.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (O+I8R)

252 if the price tag is $3.5 trillion and it doesn't add a dime to the national debt, then why are we stopping at $3.5 trillion? It should be more.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (xaoP7)

253 Men make the best women.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei

We can do everything better.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (d9FiS)

254 The Haitians could come in handy. They'll show us how to live in abject poverty.

Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (S1hrL)

255 No really, this will work out. Like the border. Like American energy independence, Afghanistan, women's sports and COVID. Right, nevertrump, you fucking louses.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (h3FHK)

256 We can, and it's what they're trying. They're going to try the "high inflation" route. High inflation - even very high - and hyperinflation are not the same things.
-------
We're not trying very hard, the national debt is doubling every 8 years or so. No, we're going to keep spending until it crashes, and probably the panic moves near the end will make it worse. It's not mathematically impossible to solve the problem, but there is no political will to do it.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (xqRaG)

257 >>When my daughter was 7, she told me we weren't out of money because I still had checks in the ol' checkbook./i]



Reminds me of my brother who thought he was making money when he paid for something with a $5 bill and the change was several $1 bills -- see, more billzzz!!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (bDqIh)

258 It's wrong to wish ill upon another human being but I will find it understandable if at least one Democrat Senator strokes out during this Congressional term.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at September 27, 2021 11:56 AM (xxG/v)

259 *snort*

https://bit.ly/3APhVQ9

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 27, 2021 11:56 AM (yQpMk)

260 @RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"
-
Is this that new math I've been hearing about?
Posted by: Anonosaurus
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Same liberal math: spend until you control everything by bankrupting the peons.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 27, 2021 11:56 AM (baq3E)

261 blaster, I can anecdotally confirm that BP morale is low - duh - and I don't think the analogy to the FBI works here. Very different culture, very narrow, concrete mission.

Of course, just as with polling on Biden's approval rating, it's meaningless, for the most part.

Dismal polling for the vile vegetable in the WH might be of concrete value in derailing this (additional) fiscal insanity we're discussing, so that's something I guess. But it, and horrible BP morale, won't change the fact the country has chosen years of this kind of destructive, inexcusable idiocy. Or that most of the GOP was quite content to throw away a vastly better near-term future.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at September 27, 2021 11:56 AM (OTzUX)

262 I object! I never neglected my wife's body.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 27, 2021 11:56 AM (xopIz)

263 We're not trying very hard, the national debt is doubling every 8 years or so. No, we're going to keep spending until it crashes, and probably the panic moves near the end will make it worse. It's not mathematically impossible to solve the problem, but there is no political will to do it.
Posted by: zmdavid at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (xqRaG)

This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (csEWM)

264 >> Men make the best women.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

You say that as a joke, but some transmen are uber-"feminists" to the point that they denigrate actual female feminists (TRFs) for not being as feminists as they are.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (bDqIh)

265 She went to Princeton, so she must be right.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (vN+oL)

266 " it'll cost 3.5T dimes."

or just 3.5 "trillion dollar coins". Didn't Obama mention those? He probably gave some away to his friends, to be redeemed later.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (Cus5s)

267 Our entire economy is based on a ludicrous myth right now anyway. Its beyond the point of reasonably expected repair, the dollar is essentially worthless, but its still treated as valuable because to admit to the lie would crash the global economy. How long we can keep this going is a matter of some curiosity, because eventually it won't work. And it won't work very suddenly and catastrophically.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (KZzsI)

268 This move, like all the others that have been instituted, is to protect the Aristocrats investment in China and maintain our betters in their positions of authority. Just remember that.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (HTCOy)

269 *snort*

https://bit.ly/3APhVQ9


Don't go there. It's a TRAP!

Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (ZsR3z)

270 We're not trying very hard, the national debt is doubling every 8 years or so. No, we're going to keep spending until it crashes, and probably the panic moves near the end will make it worse. It's not mathematically impossible to solve the problem, but there is no political will to do it.

**

It's easier to understand when you accept that China is in control of these actions in order to become the world's financial top-dog.

It probably hasn't even cost them $100M in total investments to politicians, either.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (SfD1B)

271 122 It won't cost one thin dime; it'll cost 3.5T dimes.
Posted by: ahem at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (KTzF6)
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At ten dimes to a dollar. that's 35 trillion dimes.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (xqRaG)

272 The Haitians could come in handy. They'll show us how to live in abject poverty.

Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (S1hrL)

Poverty Preppers! On the Discovery Channel!

Posted by: Archer at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (gmo/4)

273 The elephant in the room is Kristen Sinema. She's the true swing vote, and she's been MIA.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (ZHVt1)

274 We're not trying very hard, the national debt is doubling every 8 years or so. No, we're going to keep spending until it crashes, and probably the panic moves near the end will make it worse. It's not mathematically impossible to solve the problem, but there is no political will to do it.
Posted by: zmdavid at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (xqRaG)
++++
On that we don't disagree. And the kind of thing that *does* cause hyperinflation - is full destruction of confidence and stability, rather than strictly monetary effects - are starting to show up. Legislators bluntly calling our currency Monopoly Money - and saying it like it's a *good* thing - is the kind of the thing that leads to a hyperinflationary outcome.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:58 AM (Jsjd7)

275 Nancy Pelosi:
Let's Not Talk About Numbers And Dollars, Let's Talk About Values

Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2021 11:58 AM (RHGPo)

276 It's crazy to think that if this monstrosity passes, the government will have added somewhere in the neighborhood of 11 trillion dollars to the debt in less than 2 years.


It's literal insanity.

Posted by: Thomas Bender, 25 years until the next Tool album. at September 27, 2021 11:58 AM (0kbfp)

277 The Haitians could come in handy. They'll show us how to live in abject poverty.
Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 11:55 AM (S1hrL)



You can't support an economy this size by selling underage ass to UN Peacekeepers.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 27, 2021 11:58 AM (yQpMk)

278 @RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"

**

It's weird how all of the monopoly sets I've ever played with came with a very defined and strict amount of money.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:58 AM (SfD1B)

279 273 The elephant in the room is Kristen Sinema. She's the true swing vote, and she's been MIA.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (ZHVt1)

========

There are also four other Democratic senators up for re-election in 2022 in states that aren't that blue that are using both Sinema and Manchin for cover.

This is all failure theater.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 11:58 AM (LvTSG)

280
VATs are egregious and dishonest at every conceivable level. Only a genuine, grade A, top choice asshole could have come up with them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 11:51 AM (Jsjd7)


So what's your point?

Posted by: The Eurotrash at September 27, 2021 11:58 AM (n+4am)

281 It won't cost one thin dime; it'll cost 3.5T dimes.
Posted by: ahem at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (KTzF6)
-----------
At ten dimes to a dollar. that's 35 trillion dimes.
Posted by: zmdavid


Picky, picky, picky. Looks like overtime at the mint tonight, boys.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 11:59 AM (vcOmj)

282 @RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"

--

Then print up $1 million smackaroos for every man, woman and child, there Skippy!

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 27, 2021 11:59 AM (O+I8R)

283 What idiocy, he says.
I say never attribute to stupidity what can better be explained by malice.
Times have changed.
Although I give a head nod in the direction of And. It has great power.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2021 11:59 AM (z79tQ)

284 208 Non-racist, non-white supremist, gender fluid math is da bomb, ain't it?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 27, 2021 11:49 AM (BFigT)

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Daily Series of (Increasing Money Supply / Decreasing Biden IQ)

==> [i.e. Approaches]

(Infinity + Beyond)!

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 27, 2021 11:59 AM (egTDY)

285 Inflate away, Big Guy.

Posted by: Commissar Xi at September 27, 2021 12:00 PM (RKp8A)

286 >>> 282 @RepJohnYarmuth
thinks Congress can spend into oblivion b/c "We are like the banker in monopoly, we create the money"

--

Then print up $1 million smackaroos for every man, woman and child, there Skippy!
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 27, 2021 11:59 AM (O+I8R)

Hey, didn't Mike Bloomberg already give everyone in America a million bucks?

Posted by: This... is XiNN at September 27, 2021 12:00 PM (ACi07)

287 >>I don't understand why garbage like this doesn't enrage women.


It does, it really does.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2021 12:00 PM (bDqIh)

288 287 >>I don't understand why garbage like this doesn't enrage women.


It does, it really does.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2021 12:00 PM (bDqIh)

=======

"You ain't female."
-Joe Biden

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 12:00 PM (LvTSG)

289 It's weird how all of the monopoly sets I've ever played with came with a very defined and strict amount of money.
Posted by: Moron Robbie


Keep buying new Monopoly games and you will have more money. Silly. You should talk to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez more, she's a financial and economics genius.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 12:00 PM (vcOmj)

290 The End Times, they are upon us.

https://tinyurl.com/h8tyhamf

Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 12:01 PM (ZsR3z)

291 289 Keep buying new Monopoly games and you will have more money. Silly. You should talk to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez more, she's a financial and economics genius.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 12:00 PM (vcOmj)

=======

Do you have any idea how many BJs she had to give her boss because she kept getting the change wrong?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 12:01 PM (LvTSG)

292 We should start by levying a $4T fine on China for their bioweapon attack ... "The debt is cancelled and we now own all your American assets, have a nice day".

But do it in harmony with every nation that was hit hard by plandemic. ... Every nation so hit collects all China assets in their country (and those wolf warriors have been very busy in those nations they infected).

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2021 12:01 PM (Cus5s)

293 Hey Mike Pence, What say you about all of this hmm?

You had a golden opportunity to put the brakes on this and you cucked out. You're nothing but GWB with whiter hair

Posted by: GetchaPull at September 27, 2021 12:01 PM (aR6C/)

294 common core math is amazing.

Posted by: IC at September 27, 2021 12:01 PM (hV9ir)

295 Then print up $1 million smackaroos for every man, woman and child, there Skippy!

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 27, 2021 11:59 AM (O+I8R)

------

Go big Zimbabwe or go home!

Make the minimum wage $1 million/hour ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 27, 2021 12:02 PM (egTDY)

296 It won't cost a penny!

We'll just print the money needed to pay for it, using the tenets of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), as pioneered in Germany in 1923!

Posted by: Bootlicking Economist! at September 27, 2021 12:02 PM (I2/tG)

297 Is Kristin Sinema mort??

Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 12:02 PM (S1hrL)

298 Finally some good economic news!

Biden White House's promise to lower health insurance premiums sure sounds familiar

-
You can take that to the bank!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 12:02 PM (d9FiS)

299 Do you have any idea how many BJs she had to give her boss because she kept getting the change wrong?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei

If it's more than 10, she had to take off her shoes.

Shoes for industry, shoes for the dead.
Jobs is on the way.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 12:03 PM (vcOmj)

300
It's easier to understand when you accept that China is in control of these actions in order to become the world's financial top-dog.

It probably hasn't even cost them $100M in total investments to politicians, either.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 11:57 AM (SfD1B)


The ChiCom's greatest weapon in their quest for world domination is the corrupt avarice of the US Congress.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2021 12:03 PM (n+4am)

301 Is Kristin Sinema mort??
Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 12:02 PM (S1hrL)



She will be missed.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 27, 2021 12:03 PM (yQpMk)

302 We should start by levying a $4T fine on China for their bioweapon attack ... "The debt is cancelled and we now own all your American assets, have a nice day".

**

Problem being the contract for these actions is already in place, and we're just watching the terms play out. It's why the election had to be stolen.

Remember when it came out before the election that the Big Guy was sold to China for the lo, lo price of $10M?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 12:03 PM (SfD1B)

303 See, things don't cost the Government Money if we make the taxpayers pay for it.

Posted by: Reporterette!!!! at September 27, 2021 12:03 PM (zi3XI)

304 $10,000 per every legal US citizen basically. Take out the poor and the rich who don't pay and it probably rises to $15,000 for each middle class citizen which includes the wee babies and the fat ones too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2021 12:03 PM (r5BVk)

305 Hey, didn't Mike Bloomberg already give everyone in America a million bucks?

Posted by: This... is XiNN at September 27, 2021 12:00 PM (ACi07)

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That was America Samoa.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 27, 2021 12:04 PM (egTDY)

306 Josh Caplan
@joshdcaplan

1h
CBS BOSTON: Dozens of Massachusetts State Police Troopers resigning over vaccine mandate

Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2021 12:04 PM (NpAcC)

307 Heck, man. This $3.5T bill is gonna make us money.

At least, $13Q per person. That's thirteen quadrillion dollars for everybody! Even your kids!!!

And all it takes is one little vote.

Don't be a sucker, dude! Call your Congressperson today and demand President Joe Biden's

"Give Every American $13Q For the Low, Low Price of $3.5T in Rich People's Money Bill"

All Vaccinated Patriots get an extra $1.7Q!!!

Posted by: naturalfake is now a Joe Biden Flak at September 27, 2021 12:04 PM (5NkmN)

308 It isn't idiocy. No consequences for leftist behavior has led us to a point that insane lies will be the norm until something really changes.

There is no debate, either, only "their truth" or "misinformation."

Posted by: Joseph Tura at September 27, 2021 12:04 PM (CFrpB)

309 great. they're releasing Hinckley now

it's like no-holds-barred evil on the part of our FedGov now

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 27, 2021 12:05 PM (j9HX3)

310 $10,000 per every legal US citizen basically. Take out the poor and the rich who don't pay and it probably rises to $15,000 for each middle class citizen which includes the wee babies and the fat ones too.

**

And I'm guessing that's just the outright amount it costs and not the erosion of each dollar in the savings accounts of the middle class.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 12:05 PM (SfD1B)

311 306 Josh Caplan
@joshdcaplan
CBS BOSTON: Dozens of Massachusetts State Police Troopers resigning over vaccine mandate
Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2021 12:04 PM (NpAcC)

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That's one way to defund the police.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 12:05 PM (LvTSG)

312 Addendum:

Inflation is also a tax. The worst one, arguably.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 12:05 PM (SfD1B)

313 The ChiCom's greatest weapon in their quest for world domination is the corrupt avarice of the US Congress.
==
Well that and the fact that the Presidents son is a coke whore, well, mostly the coke whore thing.

Posted by: Buck Joe Fiden at September 27, 2021 12:05 PM (zi3XI)

314 Hinckley was already out since 2016 but now he will have no restrictions

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2021 12:06 PM (CYnTg)

315 314 Hinckley was already out since 2016 but now he will have no restrictions

ah. ok then forget it - probably no big deal now

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 27, 2021 12:06 PM (j9HX3)

316 The wonderful thing about taxes
Is taxes are wonderful things
Tops are made out of rubber
Their bottoms are made out of springs
Their bouncey, trouncey, ouncey, pouncey
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun
=====

AW -- Excellence!

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 27, 2021 12:06 PM (MIKMs)

317 @290 Chernobyl, the Really Big Bang. The next distraction, maybe...

Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 12:06 PM (S1hrL)

318 Just like there is no Left too Left for the Left -- there is no limit to the debt they're happy to run up.

If you wanna shut a Lefty up, just ask him how much national debt is too much national debt. The silence is deafening ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 27, 2021 12:07 PM (egTDY)

319 Inflation is also a tax. The worst one, arguably.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 12:05 PM (SfD1B)
++++
True on both counts. Inflation is insanely regressive (because poor people spend all their money, and rich people don't), is a form of double or more taxation (because it erodes money owned post-tax) and is a wealth tax rather than a transactional tax.

Not to mention all the other downsides, incentive perversion, etc.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 12:07 PM (Jsjd7)

320 From the respected medical journal The Lancet:

"Historically, the anatomy and physiology of bodies with vaginas have been neglected."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 11:46 AM (d9FiS)

Yeah, riiiight!

Posted by: The Strip club industry at September 27, 2021 12:07 PM (q/B0M)

321 It won't cost one thin dime; it'll cost 3.5T dimes.
Posted by: ahem at September 27, 2021 11:38 AM (KTzF6)
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At ten dimes to a dollar. that's 35 trillion dimes.
Posted by: zmdavid
.......

No, no, no. It's only 3 and a half of those new trillion dollar coins. If we give them 4 we should get change.

Posted by: wth at September 27, 2021 12:07 PM (v0R5T)

322 The logic of, "If it doesn't add to the national debt, then it doesn't cost anything" is just one minor contortion away from, "If it adds to the national debt, then you're basically making money by doing it."

And then it hits you, that's more or less how we've been running the Federal Government for 40 years.

Posted by: Match Checksout at September 27, 2021 12:07 PM (dYe5S)

323 I have clearer cost arguments made over a barroom pay phone telling the little woman about the cost of a new hunting rifle.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 27, 2021 12:07 PM (bYk1t)

324 The wonderful thing about taxes
Is taxes are wonderful things
Tops are made out of rubber
Their bottoms are made out of springs
Their bouncey, trouncey, ouncey, pouncey
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun
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But there's never, only one.

Posted by: Buck Joe Fiden at September 27, 2021 12:07 PM (1jaYz)

325
great. they're releasing Hinckley now

it's like no-holds-barred evil on the part of our FedGov now
Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 27, 2021 12:05 PM (j9HX3)


If I were Jodie Foster, I'd be signing up for a couple of classes at Thunder Ranch.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2021 12:07 PM (n+4am)

326 Apropos of nothing

Flash Email Traffic: Swiss M855 on stripper clips 50 cents/rd

https://bit.ly/3o82HSV

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 27, 2021 12:07 PM (yQpMk)

327 I'm sure this has already been said:

IT'S A TAX

Posted by: wth at September 27, 2021 12:08 PM (v0R5T)

328 Hinckley was already out since 2016 but now he will have no restrictions


Jodie Foster's bunghole should be tingling.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2021 12:08 PM (OCTRt)

329 293 - Pence did his duty, don't you know?

Funny how these people are always just doing their job or following orders from somewhere else.

Posted by: Joseph Tura at September 27, 2021 12:08 PM (CFrpB)

330 The logic of, "If it doesn't add to the national debt, then it doesn't cost anything" is just one minor contortion away from, "If it adds to the national debt, then you're basically making money by doing it."

**

How do we do it?

Volume, volume, volume!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 12:08 PM (SfD1B)

331 There are also four other Democratic senators up for re-election in 2022 in states that aren't that blue that are using both Sinema and Manchin for cover.

This is all failure theater.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Simena is not at risk this election.
Kyrsten Sinema term is Jan 2019 to Jan 2025.

Mark Kelly term is Dec 2020 to 2023
And Kelly is a lying asshole so he'll go with nasty-P.


Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 27, 2021 12:08 PM (baq3E)

332 I'm trying to imagine the size of a Hershey bar in Biden's utopia and what it will be made of.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2021 12:08 PM (HTCOy)

333 And then it hits you, that's more or less how we've been running the Federal Government for 40 years.
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Pelosi actually said this already. Said that unemployment compensation actually makes the government money.

Posted by: Buck Joe Fiden at September 27, 2021 12:09 PM (/qU/r)

334 Pence did his duty, don't you know?

**

Yeah, that thing in the Constitution was just written that way for show. It was a technicality. He had no choice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 12:09 PM (SfD1B)

335 I got it one piece at a time and it didn't cost me a dime....

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 27, 2021 12:09 PM (NWbsw)

336 Is Kristin Sinema mort??

ZOD hardest hit.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 27, 2021 12:09 PM (nfrXX)

337 When will they eliminate the Social Security tax cap?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2021 12:09 PM (63Dwl)

338 331 Simena is not at risk this election.
Kyrsten Sinema term is Jan 2019 to Jan 2025.

Mark Kelly term is Dec 2020 to 2023
And Kelly is a lying asshole so he'll go with nasty-P.


Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 27, 2021 12:08 PM (baq3E)

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I didn't say she was.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

339 297 Is Kristin Sinema mort??

Posted by: Ziba at September 27, 2021 12:02 PM (S1hrL)

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I'm sure Mark Kelly wishes she would speak up, for his own re-election prospects. He wants to remain as invisible as possible to AZ.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at September 27, 2021 12:10 PM (TNyrE)

340 Word is that the local AZ D party is threatening Sinema. But she's the one who could move to the R party. If she did, I think she'd be in the Senate forever. Immigration is even an even larger issue in AZ.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 27, 2021 12:10 PM (ZHVt1)

341 "The End Times, they are upon us."

I've been told Chernobyl means wormwood. Just saying.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 12:10 PM (Ectld)

342 >>> 325
great. they're releasing Hinckley now

it's like no-holds-barred evil on the part of our FedGov now
Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 27, 2021 12:05 PM (j9HX3)


If I were Jodie Foster, I'd be signing up for a couple of classes at Thunder Ranch.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2021 12:07 PM (n+4am)

Guns are evil and icky and only trained professionals, like the three dozen I pay full-time to protect me, should be allowed to handle let alone own them.

Posted by: Jodie Foster at September 27, 2021 12:10 PM (ACi07)

343 Wait win't the un contained reaction in Chernobyl burn all the way through the earth? I saw a movie about that once...

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2021 12:10 PM (CYnTg)

344 A trillion dollars in tax cuts??!??!!

It's a Miracle Bill!!!!!!!1!11!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 27, 2021 12:11 PM (gLBtQ)

345 "Wait win't the un contained reaction in Chernobyl burn all the way through the earth?"

There's an elephant foot of melted slag, yes. They don't know what it's doing.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 12:11 PM (Ectld)

346 "There are also four other Democratic senators up for re-election in 2022 in states that aren't that blue that are using both Sinema and Manchin for cover.
This is all failure theater."

Spot on, I believe. Usually this happens with Rs

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 27, 2021 12:11 PM (ZHVt1)

347 In terms of fiscal sanity, America didn't really face a good choice in November 2020. Trump understands finance but never showed more than de minimis political will on fiscal restraint, much less sanity, when it comes to federal spending. Of course he was saddled with a GOP that was/is only slightly less worse than the Dems on the topic.

Well, we're getting the "worse", or at least an effort is being made to deliver it. The only relevant, vastly preferable likelihood under another Trump term would have been, of course, probability of much, much greater and higher quality economic growth. Which would soften the blow of spending idiocy, which would of course also have been below levels we can expect now.

But the complete disappearance of any serious and real fiscal responsibility in the last 15 years, even as part of a rhetorical framework, remains striking. And frightening.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at September 27, 2021 12:11 PM (OTzUX)

348 I see that a Florida man out on bond from 1/6 has died.

And the Feds have decided to drop the charges against him now that he is metabolically challenged.

They are gracious that way I guess.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 27, 2021 12:12 PM (yQpMk)

349 "But the complete disappearance of any serious and real fiscal responsibility in the last 15 years, even as part of a rhetorical framework"

is due entirely to a population that loves free hand outs from government.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 12:12 PM (Ectld)

350 They gave me some crayons to draw a $3.5 trillion dollar bill. That should cover everything.

Posted by: Dopey Joe at September 27, 2021 12:12 PM (RKp8A)

351 Her nipples are now on the back of her head.

If she just hangs in there for a few more years, she can lap herself.
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 11:53 AM (ZsR3z)

so that's why it looks like she has a beard now...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 12:12 PM (8D42x)

352 here's an elephant foot of melted slag, yes. They don't know what it's doing.
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It's doing what it does, effervescently contemplating its being vs. non being.

Posted by: Buck Joe Fiden at September 27, 2021 12:13 PM (1jaYz)

353 "It's doing what it does, effervescently contemplating its being vs. non being."

I hope we're not relying on Schrodinger to save us.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 12:13 PM (Ectld)

354 let there be light

Posted by: An elephant foot of melted slag at September 27, 2021 12:14 PM (yQpMk)

355 By the same logic: Free ice cream for everyone at Nancy Pelosi's house!

Because if you want something, all you have to do is go take it from someone else, right?

Posted by: Damiano at September 27, 2021 12:14 PM (vRDjk)

356 But the complete disappearance of any serious and real fiscal responsibility in the last 15 years, even as part of a rhetorical framework"

is due entirely to a population that loves free hand outs from government.
==
Yup. this is what i meant when i said "A democracy if you can keep it."

Posted by: Farting is good for your health, i said that too at September 27, 2021 12:14 PM (1jaYz)

357 353 "It's doing what it does, effervescently contemplating its being vs. non being."

I hope we're not relying on Schrodinger to save us.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 12:13 PM (Ectld)

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We won't find out until we open the box.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding religion in the USSR with Andrei at September 27, 2021 12:14 PM (LvTSG)

358 I got it one piece at a time and it didn't cost me a dime....
Posted by: Minnfidel


Drove right up to the factory and picked it up. You might say it's cheaper that way.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2021 12:14 PM (OCTRt)

359 Addendum:

Inflation is also a tax. The worst one, arguably.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Haiti has no home here at September 27, 2021 12:05 PM (SfD1B)

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The wifey and I have worked our asses off and saved our pennies, refusing to purchase any toys or luxury items or grand vacations, so that we could be independent and have a comfortable, enjoyable golden years.

The coming hyperinflation will make us -- and everyone else except the multi-billionaires -- paupers.

Equal in starvation, slavery, and misery AT LAST in the coming Communist Utopia!

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 27, 2021 12:14 PM (egTDY)

360 "Problem being the contract for these actions is already in place, and we're just watching the terms play out. It's why the election had to be stolen." Posted by: Moron Robbie

well that is only the BidenFamily contract ... not sure what DeepState has in mind. But I agree, they had to steal the election to stop any audits/investigations -- whether it was done by China, or it was DeepState and the merry band of oligarchs. Dems like Clinton/Obama/Biden are mostly puppets ... for BigMoney?

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2021 12:14 PM (Cus5s)

361 Wait win't the un contained reaction in Chernobyl burn all the way through the earth? I saw a movie about that once...
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2021 12:10 PM


*snort*

Posted by: Oklo at September 27, 2021 12:15 PM (m+jkK)

362 What's in the box???

Posted by: Detective Mills at September 27, 2021 12:15 PM (Ectld)

363 It's doing what it does, effervescently contemplating its being vs. non being."

I hope we're not relying on Schrodinger to save us.
==
No, we are relying on Russian Refrigerator repairmen.

Posted by: You'd think that was a joke, but it isn't, really at September 27, 2021 12:15 PM (Alfwc)

364 "Obamacare will reduce your premiums $2500!" comes to mind.

This is all a spin game. Can they get a dumbed down electorate to believe their bilge? In the infamous words of Jonathan Gruber*, "call it the stupidity of the American voter..."

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 27, 2021 12:15 PM (O+I8R)

365 'Wasting money on tax breaks'.

I'd like a brief discussion about how *any* money is *spent* on tax breaks, let alone 'wasted'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2021 12:15 PM (CTJwJ)

366 Bills like this one is exactley why we are not 30 trillion dollars in national debt

Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2021 12:15 PM (us2H3)

367 Trump is probably the best person to have as President during the inevitable national bankruptcy.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 27, 2021 12:16 PM (xqRaG)

368 362 What's in the box???
Posted by: Detective Mills at September 27, 2021 12:15 PM (Ectld)

Nice!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 12:16 PM (csEWM)

369 Wait win't the un contained reaction in Chernobyl burn all the way through the earth?

If I were running a Champions game still, I'd use that to have radioactive monsters coming out of the earth to attack Russia, requiring the superheroes to defeat them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 12:16 PM (KZzsI)

370 Trump prepared an actual budget that cut many departments... and fiscal Genius Paul Ryan declared it DOA.

they passed continuing resolutions the entire time.

Posted by: Inogame at September 27, 2021 12:16 PM (53oGX)

371 "Inflation is also a tax."

Taxes are based on percentage. Inflation literally increases percent of taxes versus real take home. That's just awe inspiringly evil.

Posted by: Detective Mills at September 27, 2021 12:16 PM (Ectld)

372 Yup. this is what i meant when i said "A democracy Republic if you can keep it."

**cough**

Posted by: Ben F. at September 27, 2021 12:16 PM (ZsR3z)

373 Every time.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 12:17 PM (Ectld)

374 Nood

Posted by: Furious George at September 27, 2021 12:17 PM (9vQJW)

375 Bills like this one is exactley why we are not 30 trillion dollars in national debt

#twoyears

Posted by: Oddbob at September 27, 2021 12:17 PM (nfrXX)

376 let there be light
Posted by: An elephant foot of melted slag


For 20,000 years!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2021 12:17 PM (OCTRt)

377 370 Trump prepared an actual budget that cut many departments... and fiscal Genius Paul Ryan declared it DOA.

they passed continuing resolutions the entire time.
Posted by: Inogame at September 27, 2021 12:16 PM (53oGX)

Ryan was pretty much the quintessential GOPe. The apotheosis of their breeding program.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2021 12:17 PM (csEWM)

378 82 This is the time to induce Joe Manchin to switch parties. His state went 70-30 Trump-Biden in 2020, if he switches parties it is painless for him and his future as a Senator from WV. That single vote changes everything. It will be game over for the $3.5T plan, subpoena power to the GOP majority in the committees, the end of Kamala Harris breaking ties, etc. It's worth a lot and Manchin would be right to expect a great deal. The last time I remember it in happening in the Senate - was Shelby coming over from the Dark Side during the Reagan Administration.
Posted by: Emil Blatz at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (iaAVH)

Here. Hold my beer.

Posted by: Lisa Murscruntski at September 27, 2021 12:17 PM (Fs5vw)

379 If I were running a Champions game still, I'd use that to have radioactive monsters coming out of the earth to attack Russia, requiring the superheroes to defeat them.
==
The Russian national Kaiju is what, a giant bear that breathes radioactive fire?

Posted by: You'd think that was a joke, but it isn't, really at September 27, 2021 12:18 PM (Alfwc)

380 20,00 years just makes the uranium go away. Then we have to deal with the daughers.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 12:18 PM (Ectld)

381
CBO scoring was never particularly good or even realistic, but that was one of those Obama-era corruptions... it went from bad to "just a big fat joke" when Obamacare had to be justified. Once you beshit yourself in that manner, you can never regain credibility.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 27, 2021 12:18 PM (Hou/x)

382 I didn't say she was.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Not arguing, just pointing it out.

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AZ D party is threatening Sinema. But she's the one who could move to the R party. If she did...

A RINO for sure; but, she would still be better than McCain.



Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 27, 2021 12:18 PM (baq3E)

383 One of the basic tenets of economics is "opportunity cost." There's no free lunch. If you piss away money it could have been used on something that makes the world better.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 27, 2021 12:18 PM (ZHVt1)

384 Joe Manchin to switch parties. His state went 70-30 Trump-Biden in 2020, if he switches parties it is painless for him and his future as a Senator from WV. That single vote changes everything. It will be game over for the $3.5T plan, subpoena power to the GOP majority in the committees, the end of Kamala Harris breaking ties, etc. It's worth a lot and Manchin would be right to expect a great deal. The last time I remember it in happening in the Senate - was Shelby coming over from the Dark Side during the Reagan Administration.
==
Over my dead body.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell because the deal requires he give up leadership at September 27, 2021 12:19 PM (zi3XI)

385 "If you piss away money it could have been used on something that makes the world better."

But...broken windows or something.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 12:19 PM (Ectld)

386 Unsock

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 27, 2021 12:19 PM (Fs5vw)

387 The bit about being the Banker in Monopoly is spoken like a true Democrat (i.e. stupid), because a Monopoly game comes with a fixed amount of money, which the Banker allocates. He does not create more money.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2021 12:19 PM (Xwt96)

388 Because if you want something, all you have to do is go take it from someone else, right?
Posted by: Damiano at September 27, 2021 12:14 PM


It's better if the someone else thinks of it as an unplanned donation, Comrade!

Posted by: Citizen of The People's Democratic Republic of CHAZ at September 27, 2021 12:20 PM (a3Q+t)

389 The last time I remember it in happening in the Senate - was Shelby coming over from the Dark Side during the Reagan Administration.
Posted by: Emil Blatz at September 27, 2021 11:33 AM (iaAVH)

*waves*

Posted by: Jimmyboy Jefferds at September 27, 2021 12:20 PM (us2H3)

390 367 - I don't know. In a national, unprecedented crisis like bankruptcy, I would worry that Trump would seek out "experts" who are totally conservative, they assure him in private conversations.

Posted by: Joseph Tura at September 27, 2021 12:21 PM (CFrpB)

391 "The coming hyperinflation will make us -- and everyone else except the multi-billionaires -- paupers. Equal in starvation, slavery, and misery AT LAST in the coming Communist Utopia!"

I was all in stocks from 1982 to 1999 ... got lucky catching the bull run, but just IRA level stuff, not riches. But trying to day trade just happened to coincide with the dotcom bubble ... I got mostly out, seeing the SHTF days coming ... soon. I did not see zero interest, certainly did not imagine QE to infinity or MMT.

But I bought the small farm, so might produce enough in inflated goods to keep up. If you have stocks that pay dividends, maybe that keeps up as well ... homes will inflate, but so will taxes ... and maybe it depends on what kind of "Great Reset" occurs.

Savers might be OK, or at least better off than debtors that lose their job, so lose everything.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2021 12:21 PM (Cus5s)

392 The wifey and I have worked our asses off and saved our pennies, refusing to purchase any toys or luxury items or grand vacations, so that we could be independent and have a comfortable, enjoyable golden years.
The coming hyperinflation will make us -- and everyone else except the multi-billionaires -- paupers.
Equal in starvation, slavery, and misery AT LAST in the coming Communist Utopia!
Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 27, 2021 12:14 PM (egTDY)

Same here. Savers have been screwed for all but a couple of the last 12 years. Inflation will wipe out a good amount of value for those who can't roll the dice in the market anymore due to shortened timelines.

The silver lining is that much of the social madness we've been forced to endure will disappear during the "lean" years. Our social ills are a symptom of a wealthy decadent society, and when all energy is expended on survival, this tends to go away.
It's something to look forward to and take comfort in, when the hunger pangs and cold get to be too much.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2021 12:22 PM (z79tQ)

393 Once you beshit yourself in that manner, you can never regain credibility.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 27, 2021 12:18 PM


Let's not be too hasty here, eh?

Posted by: G. Nadler, J. Biden, & E. Swalwell at September 27, 2021 12:22 PM (a3Q+t)

394 great thing about inflation is for the most part it falls on after tax dollars

Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2021 12:23 PM (us2H3)

395 We will see how it plays out in the end, but this is what I suspected would happen ever since the $1T bill passed the Senate.

Once Pelosi, Biden, and the Squad called that DOA, I've suspected this is all going to fall. Manchin and Sinema telegraphed that the only bill they will sign is the $1T version and dared the House to pull the plug.

The $1T doesn't give them all the social boondoggles they want, so why should the House sign on?

Political climate has changed in the last month, making Machin and Sinema caving on this less likely, and no one in the GOP will bail out the Dems since they already passed a bill.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 27, 2021 12:28 PM (nfN4G)

396 just called my congressweasel and told her flunky that I opposed the tax plan especially any hint of reducing Social Security. I pointed to opposing any backroom deals not subject to open discussion and legislation. I mentioned supporting anyone running against her if she didn't wise up.

It got interesting when I mentioned Open Borders, that the economy can't withstand it and that bringing in unvaccinated/unvetted illegals exposes people to diseases we conquered years ago. I said if an FBI agent can be attacked on a military base by a group of Afghani, sending them into small cities and towns is a huge danger to our health and safety.

The bint on the phone said "Oh but they've all been vetted and vaccinated." I told her "You're saying that to protect the system. You must think I'm stupid. I can see throngs of people under bridges and fording rivers and entering this country unhindered."

She tried to counter me and I said " I don't believe you. You'll say anything to shut people like me up. That won't work anymore."

Posted by: vivi at September 27, 2021 12:29 PM (+F+Xg)

397 GM all. I seldom comment but gotta say Clickbait Fraudulent Propaganda aka CFP posted a narrative defending Julian Assage/Chelsea Manning as some kind of heroes yesterday and today (as there is still much blow back) CFP is purging via censorship. Just saying this because those exiled are probably coming.

CFP is actively engaged in smearing Mike Pompeo, one of the few that actually had Trump's back. I was censured for stating the obvious of CFP kicking a hornet's nest especially regarding their trying to pin medals on friggin Chelsea Manning (or JA) yet there is a meme still up at CFP comment section of Trump in a goddam Nazi uniform. The world has gone mad!, again just colloquially stating the obvious.

Posted by: TownCrier or TC if you're into the brevity thing at September 27, 2021 12:30 PM (wamUX)

398 "They are going to raise your taxes."

Massively so if you use tobacco in any form (https://tinyurl.com/mmem5vcu).

But, hey, only billionaires & trillionaires use tobacco.

Posted by: aelfheld at September 27, 2021 12:43 PM (Zy9Yy)

399 Study: Biden's Legislative Agenda to Kill 5.3 Million Jobs, Generates $4.5 Trillion Debt

Top marginal income tax rates with federal, state, and local taxes are over 65%.
Corporate tax rate up by a quarter to 26.5% for third highest combined rate of 30.9% in OECD.
Marginal tax rate increase of 13 percentage points on some households.
Capital gains tax rate up by 25%.

Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2021 03:01 PM (RHGPo)

400 Have I got this right? - that if you don't go into debt buying something, then that something actually cost zero dollars, because those dollars were all just lying around doing nothing anyway. Is that how this works nowadays?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 27, 2021 03:23 PM (K58O6)

401 I think they could easily cut into the cost of this bill. You've got Zuckerberg, Gates, Bezos, Buffett and a few others who push for this stuff, so they should pass a 99.9% liberal policy tax, where anyone who supports liberal policies gets taxed at 99.9%, bill paid for and no one of consequence is hurt.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (xywJC)

402 California's budget "surplus" is entirely a figment of their fairy tale public pension valuation assumptions. Why not take their delusions to the national level?

Posted by: Anotheranon at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (geoTH)

403 @400 . . . consider the corollary: my job is actually slavery because I spend 100% of my wages.

Posted by: Anotheranon at September 27, 2021 04:00 PM (geoTH)

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