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Saturday Evening Movie Thread [Moviegique]: Prisoners of the Ghostland

Is it too soon to do another Nicolas Cage movie review? I swear that guy makes movies faster than most people can watch them. And this is going to make a great contrast with the relatively sedate (dare I say mature?) Pig, because this is probably the kind of performance people are thinking of when they say they don't like Mr. Cage, and the sort of movies they think he's making. Malignant is tame by comparison.

If you want something more conventional, I offer you the blandly pleasant Free Guy, the well-meaning-but-occasionally-shockingly-amateurish Tango Shalom, or Malignant. I guess people are talking about and shocked by the latter, but it was essentially a solid slasher with a well-telegraphed reveal which you're either going to buy or not. No, no, you want weird? Let's get weird.


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There's a perfectly rational explanation for th--okay, no, of course not. Don't be silly.


Here we have the...I don't know...43rd? film by Sion Sono (director of such hits as Why Don't You Go Play In Hell? and Bad Film) about a bank robber (Cage) in a dystopic Old West town (called "Samurai Town" and full of samurai and geisha as well as cowboys) who is turned loose (although constrained by a leather suit with time-bombs wired to his arms, neck and 'nads) by the evil governor (Bill Mosely) and sent on a mission to retrieve his "granddaughter" (Sofia Boutella) who we've seen escape through the mysterious Ghostland into a city where forlorn urchins listen to Enoch (Charles Glover) as he reads them things like Wuthering Heights, as the wretched men of the town work night and day pulling a rope to keep a giant clock from advancing.

Sure we've seen it before, but have we ever seen it with Nick Cassavetes playing a psycho ghost named Psycho who, underneath his penchant for blowing children away, is actually a decent sort of guy? I think not!


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Outside the bank: A dirty 19th century town with people dressed in peasant clothes. Inside the bank: pristine white décor with women dressed in 1960s-style primary-color dresses and a boy in a cable-knit sweater.


This movie is what you call a pastiche: The premise is Escape from New York (or more likely Escape from L.A.), the setting is Mad Max (Beyond Thunderdome especially, but with elements of Road Warrior), there are costume elements that reminded me strongly of Running Man, there are story elements from westerns (the bank robbery reminded me of Peckinpah, if he'd made his shootouts in a brightly lit banks where everyone was wearing primary colors, and the giant clock recalled Sam Raimi's The Quick and the Dead, as did elements of the ersatz Old West towns), and there are action sequences and blood effects that are straight out of samurai movies (Lone Wolf and Cub leapt to mind).

None of it makes a lick of sense. This is kind of interesting to me because the screenplay writer (Persian?) Reza Sixo Safai, whom we know around here for his role in A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night, apparently spent over a decade trying to get this made. Enough time, one would think, to iron out the kinks, were one so inclined.


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Sophia Boutella wonders what the hell is going on.

So, we have to assume that it isn't really trying to make sense, and indeed embracing that is about the only way you're going to enjoy this film. The Boy and I? We enjoyed it. One thing that won me over early on was that it's quite beautifully shot. Some of these Japanese directors will turn out two, three...six!...movies a year, and yet they'll often be more interesting visually and more engaging than the bland, focus-tested, color-coded fare we get in America.

The tone is, shall we say, uneven? It's mostly pretty serious, with heavy overtones of the weird--dreams, fate, ghosts--but it does occasionally and quite consciously get silly in places, not always to the best effect. Much worse is how many truly great things were left on the table: The big clock has no meaning, really. There's a whole theme about time that doesn't really go anywhere. There's a heroic samurai whose backstory just kind of peters out. It's a tale of redemption, in the classic western mold, but it's too busy doing other things to give weight to the various story elements that make that sort of story resonate.


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I think these are the boss' girls on their way to the manor house, walking in front of the enslaved girls, though there are a lot of reasons that doesn't make sense. But look at the colors!

Hats off to the 57-year-old Cage doing a pretty good job as an action hero. We'll see how he fares in 2028, when he's 66--Harrison Ford's age in Indiana Jones and the Walker of Impending Mortality. (I can't even hear about the Indy 5 shoots without wincing.)

This is not for everyone, obviously. Hell, it's not for most people. And if it hadn't been so visually interesting with over-the-top performances, it would've been boring. More than anything it would've felt like one of those '80s Italian versions of Mad Max or Escape From New York; Italians also don't care much about making sense. But we were glad we saw it. We had some laughs and least manage to get out into the city ahead of the impending vaccine passport fascism.


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Somebody really cared about getting good shots. (Less so about plot.)


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1 Here.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 06:52 PM (taPSh)

2 Woohoo!

I did it!!

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 06:52 PM (dhFCT)

3 Sorry.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 06:53 PM (taPSh)

4 Been watching Breakfast Club, saw end 1/2 a week ago and saw it was on so watched from beginning.
Note - Judd Nelson could not have gotten across that ceiling grid.

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 06:54 PM (2JoB8)

5 No, no, I meant I managed to do the post.

You can be first, it's fine. I'm 0th.

Now I gotta remove the dumb ?s which are apparently the blog's way of interpreting the EM tag.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 06:55 PM (dhFCT)

6 Nic Cage does not need linear logic.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 06:55 PM (Dc2NZ)

7 Watching Quiet Place 2
Bsby in peril
I'm skeered

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 06:56 PM (oEn12)

8 Cage could have made it across the drop ceiling.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 06:57 PM (taPSh)

9 ||Watching Quiet Place 2
Bsby in peril
I'm skeered||

Spoiler twist: It was the baby the whole time!

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 06:57 PM (dhFCT)

10 Somebody really cared about getting good shots. (Less so about plot.)
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Eh, I'm all about good visuals. I'm intrigued.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 06:57 PM (Dc2NZ)

11 they're still making movies ?

huh.

who knew, right ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 25, 2021 06:57 PM (jDHSU)

12 Cage is fun.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 25, 2021 06:58 PM (yQpMk)

13 We saw four movies in about a week, actually:

Free Guy, Malignant and this one, which are ALL new.

And Citizen Kane which of course dwarfs all.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 06:59 PM (dhFCT)

14 I like Nick movies

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:00 PM (2JoB8)

15 WE GOT MOVIE SIGN!!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 25, 2021 07:01 PM (SWT0U)

16 Hold it...I was looking for Hedy and Ava. Actually, I haven't been the same since the link on last night's ONT to Suzanne Pleshette.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2021 07:01 PM (bPH26)

17 oops, wrong thread

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 25, 2021 07:01 PM (SWT0U)

18 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 25, 2021 07:02 PM (arJlL)

19 Charles Foster Brooks Caine Mutiny on the Bounty is the Quicker Picker-Upper Peninsula. In Cinerama.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 07:02 PM (taPSh)

20 I for one am glad that even mainstream reviews for the movie version of Dear Evan Hansen are terrible and that the universal opinion is that star Ben Platt at 27 is more convincing as as 35-year-old than as a high school student.

There hasn't been a decent musical since Fiddler on the Roof. OK, that's my personal opinion. But what's a fact is that Wicked and Hamilton and this musical seem specifically designed to repel any person who normally isn't into contemporary musical theater, through both form AND content.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at September 25, 2021 07:02 PM (2RBkF)

21 Well Foundation is out on Apple+. The books have a lot of weaknesses which the series could overcome. Instead we get boredom in two episodes. It's pretty. Of course the main protagonist has to be female and a POC. The show runners seem to not understand why the Empire is collapsing. It looks like we are going to get a lot of female angst.

Posted by: WiNO at September 25, 2021 07:02 PM (EpDzw)

22 I saw "The Last Picture Show" for the first time today (thanks, TCM!). A beautiful snapshot of a dusty, dying Texas town in the 50's. And what a cast! Everybody was so young:

https://tinyurl.com/2rv7emeu

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:04 PM (Dc2NZ)

23 4 Been watching Breakfast Club, saw end 1/2 a week ago and saw it was on so watched from beginning.
Note - Judd Nelson could not have gotten across that ceiling grid.
Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 06:54 PM (2JoB

-------------------------------

Every time my wife and I watch a show where someone ends up crawling through air ducts, I point out that air ducts are not engineered to support the weight of a person. I think she's gotten sick of me doing that.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 25, 2021 07:05 PM (CAJOC)

24 Nick Cage is both more and less talented than he's given credit for. He's more talented than most people think -- he's done some amazing performances in the past.

But he's not nearly as good as he thinks he is, from interviews about his craft. He gets super deep into figuring out what his character is all about method acting psychological study etc for guys like Ghost Rider and is absolutely convinced he's discovered something amazing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:06 PM (KZzsI)

25 Free Cinemax and HBO this weekend, did see 15:17 to Paris for first time and most of Lincoln which looked very good but seemed slow

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:06 PM (2JoB8)

26 21 Well Foundation is out on Apple+. The books have a lot of weaknesses which the series could overcome. Instead we get boredom in two episodes. It's pretty. Of course the main protagonist has to be female and a POC. The show runners seem to not understand why the Empire is collapsing. It looks like we are going to get a lot of female angst.
Posted by: WiNO at September 25, 2021 07:02 PM (EpDzw)
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I'll see it, but I figure I'll be disappointed.

They don't get that the Empire didn't even realize it was in decline.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:06 PM (Dc2NZ)

27 Every time my wife and I watch a show where someone ends up crawling through air ducts, I point out that air ducts are not engineered to support the weight of a person

Well nor are they big enough to crawl through in almost all cases, and they're full of dust.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:06 PM (KZzsI)

28 I saw Prisoners of the Ghostland yesterday. It's a weird film. The story is very straightforward, but it's told in a less than straightforward way. I don't know if I liked it or not, but I was not bored.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 25, 2021 07:07 PM (QU5/8)

29 I think Prisoners of the Ghostland might be what you would see if you took DMT and then watched The Book of Eli.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 25, 2021 07:08 PM (QU5/8)

30 27 Every time my wife and I watch a show where someone ends up crawling through air ducts, I point out that air ducts are not engineered to support the weight of a person

Well nor are they big enough to crawl through in almost all cases, and they're full of dust.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:06 PM (KZzsI)

-------------------------

Though I suppose if they're strong enough and large enough to support a person, you're going to send the cleaning lady through now and again to clean them up.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 25, 2021 07:08 PM (CAJOC)

31 No one of consequence would beg to differ, I sit and craw on ductwork a lot, they are well strapped up, issue is if inside another vent is the out and they are mostly flex duct you can't get through.

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:09 PM (2JoB8)

32 There hasn't been a decent musical since Fiddler on the Roof. OK, that's my personal opinion. But what's a fact is that Wicked and Hamilton and this musical seem specifically designed to repel any person who normally isn't into contemporary musical theater, through both form AND content.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at September 25, 2021 07:02 PM (2RBkF)
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Agree. Listen to older musicals and every number is a toe-tapper. Modern musicals are amorphous blobs with maybe one standout number.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:09 PM (Dc2NZ)

33 Just watched Secret Window with Johnny Depp. Based on a Stephen King story. One of those movies where they want you confused all the way until the end. I don't care for that. Now that I know what's going on, the second viewing will be much more enjoyable. Great performance by John Turturro, as always. Free on Prime.

Posted by: chris+opher at September 25, 2021 07:10 PM (IyjHW)

34 A couple of the Disney animated movies hold up pretty well as musicals (Little Mermaid, for instance has a lot of great tunes). And of course, Bollywood.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:11 PM (KZzsI)

35 "Somebody really cared about getting good shots. "

That sounds dirty.

Posted by: Guy who thinks everything sounds dirty. at September 25, 2021 07:11 PM (Tnijr)

36 First movie I ever saw with Nicolas Cage was "Valley Girl" in the early 80s.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 07:11 PM (U2p+3)

37 "We saw four movies in about a week, actually:
Free Guy, Malignant and this one, which are ALL new.


I didn't know moviegique was so loaded.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 07:11 PM (4thlk)

38
Not only are HVAC ducts small, but they are loaded with screws and razor-sharp edges. They are supported by hangers strong enough to hold the duct's own weight, nothing more. Good luck crawling around in them.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 25, 2021 07:11 PM (htiwo)

39 ||and is absolutely convinced he's discovered something amazing||

I mean, you kind of HAVE to be, right?

|| Lincoln which looked very good but seemed slow ||

I don't think it is (very good). I don't feel strongly about it, but at the time, I walked away with the idea that it was full of flaws because the story it really wanted to tell was...Obama's.

https://moviegique.com/2012/12/lincoln/

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:12 PM (dhFCT)

40 Well Foundation is out on Apple+. The books have a lot of weaknesses which the series could overcome. Instead we get boredom in two episodes. It's pretty. Of course the main protagonist has to be female and a POC. The show runners seem to not understand why the Empire is collapsing. It looks like we are going to get a lot of female angst.
Posted by: WiNO at September 25, 2021 07:02 PM (

Now I don't have to ask about it.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 25, 2021 07:12 PM (cSyAR)

41 I can't watch "Leaving Las Vegas." Reminds me of my dad. Because that was him. But worse.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 07:13 PM (U2p+3)

42
WE GOT MOVIE SIGN!!
Posted by: OregonMuse


Thanks, boomer.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 25, 2021 07:13 PM (htiwo)

43 Watched Valley Girl a few months ago, it was pretty good.
So is Breakfast Club

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:13 PM (2JoB8)

44 Nic Cage does not need linear logic.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord

Joe Biden could use some.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 25, 2021 07:14 PM (d9FiS)

45 ||I didn't know moviegique was so loaded.||

Well, I've given up eating. Saves a ton.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:15 PM (dhFCT)

46 Nic Cage does not need linear logic.

Well, that's because he's not a racist.

Posted by: pep at September 25, 2021 07:16 PM (ZsR3z)

47 Hold it...I was looking for Hedy and Ava. Actually, I haven't been the same since the link on last night's ONT to Suzanne Pleshette.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2021 07:01 PM (bPH26)

WHAT LINK!!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 07:16 PM (47mFt)

48 38
Not only are HVAC ducts small, but they are loaded with screws and razor-sharp edges. They are supported by hangers strong enough to hold the duct's own weight, nothing more. Good luck crawling around in them.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 25, 2021 07:11 PM (htiwo)


Wasn't there an Inman vide where the female perp tried to escape via the HVAC duct and pancaked into the middle of the store?

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at September 25, 2021 07:16 PM (8C7+r)

49 Well Foundation is out on Apple+. The books have a lot of weaknesses which the series could overcome. Instead we get boredom in two episodes. It's pretty. Of course the main protagonist has to be female and a POC. The show runners seem to not understand why the Empire is collapsing. It looks like we are going to get a lot of female angst.
Posted by: WiNO at September 25, 2021 07:02 PM
----
I'm pretty sure Amazon's interpretation of The Wheel of Time will be much of that as well, if the trailer is anything to go by. Of course, trailers do lie sometimes...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 25, 2021 07:17 PM (K5n5d)

50 Every time my wife and I watch a show where someone ends up crawling through air ducts, I point out that air ducts are not engineered to support the weight of a person

Well nor are they big enough to crawl through in almost all cases, and they're full of dust.


If Hollywood has taught us anything, it's that HVAC ducts are almost always filled with stashed money.

Posted by: pep at September 25, 2021 07:17 PM (ZsR3z)

51 I mean, you kind of HAVE to be, right?

The best actors seem to be the ones who don't take themselves very seriously, the character actors for the most part. Guys like Bruce Campbell who seem to understand that what they are doing is pretty silly and childish, so they don't have any ego about it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:17 PM (KZzsI)

52 JUMP SCARE!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 07:17 PM (oEn12)

53 ||Watched Valley Girl a few months ago, it was pretty good.||

I just saw an interview with Anita Rosenberg, who directed "Assault of the Killer Bimbos" from back in...'94...when she was lined up to do Valley Girl 2.

Briggs, of course, prefers "Bimbos" to "Thelma and Louise" (which it was sorta patterned after).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCsbGpf9SaI

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:17 PM (dhFCT)

54 Those drop ceiling tiles cannot hold any weight, but there are beams up there you can move on, if you're careful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:18 PM (KZzsI)

55 The show runners seem to not understand why the Empire is collapsing. It looks like we are going to get a lot of female angst.

TBF, we had roughly 180 hours of male angst in the LOTR series.

Posted by: pep at September 25, 2021 07:18 PM (ZsR3z)

56 Of course the main protagonist has to be female and a POC.

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There's an arcade style game, Bomber Crew, about Bomber Command and the USAAF during WWII. POCs and chicks are heavily represented because during WWII Bomber Command and the USAAF were all about diversity and inclusivity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 25, 2021 07:18 PM (d9FiS)

57 Sophia Boutella wonders what the hell is going on.

*cough*

Sofia

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 25, 2021 07:19 PM (ZSK0i)

58 There is hard galvanized duct, I work on top all the time on them, there is fiberglass ducts, it wouldn't hold you a minute, and flex duct that you couldn't get through.

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:19 PM (2JoB8)

59
Google had to dig really deep today for a left wing icon to fake-celebrate in their stupid little logo. They chose Chistopher Reeve's corpse on his 69th birthday to fake-celebrate, and used a post-paralyzed image of him to display.

Because that's who dead hollywood celery Christopher Reeve is to the Alt-Left goblins at Google: a paralyzed "victim" of George Bush's fake opposition to baby stem-cell harvesting.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 25, 2021 07:19 PM (htiwo)

60 The family watched the Fear Street trilogy on Netflix a couple weeks ago. Enjoyed it quite a bit, though if you don't like gore, you should probably skip it.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 25, 2021 07:19 PM (CAJOC)

61 ||Guys like Bruce Campbell who seem to understand that what they are doing is pretty silly and childish, so they don't have any ego about it||

Campbell's pretty good now, but he's had his moments. He egoed himself off the set of "Maniac Cop 2", which I think actually benefits from Robert Davi replacing him.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:19 PM (dhFCT)

62 I have never watched Thelma and Louise all the way through but what I have seen leaves me baffled how it was such a big hit and so often referred to.

Although seeing Susan Sarandon plunge to her death into a chasm was cheering.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:20 PM (KZzsI)

63 A couple of the Disney animated movies hold up pretty well as musicals (Little Mermaid, for instance has a lot of great tunes). And of course, Bollywood.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:11 PM (KZzsI)

"We are Siam-e-e-s-e if you ple-e-ase *bombom bom bom* We are Siamese if you don't please *bombom bom bom*

Haven't seen that movie since kidhood, yet I get that earworm occasionally and it won't let go!

Posted by: Russkilitlover at September 25, 2021 07:20 PM (nWxPx)

64 Wasn't Sofia Boutella the lass with the pointy prostheses in Kingsmen?

Posted by: pep at September 25, 2021 07:21 PM (ZsR3z)

65 I could imagine a bar in the French Quarter that the only way to the men's room is through a functioning air duct.

Any functioning HVAC in the Quarter? Not that I remember. Remember?

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 07:21 PM (taPSh)

66 Somebody flaked out behind Trump's right.

Posted by: dartist at September 25, 2021 07:21 PM (+ya+t)

67 The best actors seem to be the ones who don't take themselves very seriously, the character actors for the most part.

-
I saw J.K. Simmons in Whiplash about an asshole music professor. What an asshole!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 25, 2021 07:22 PM (d9FiS)

68 What was that movie about some guys blowing up an asteroid.
Today I would tell them they needn't bother.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 25, 2021 07:22 PM (cSyAR)

69 Jake Speed an 80s movie that makes fun of Pulp novels like Doc Savage and the Destroy Remo Williams. The plot is TAKEN but fun and John Hurt has fun playing the villain.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 25, 2021 07:22 PM (dKiJG)

70 Nic Cage is good in Joe.

Posted by: mot at September 25, 2021 07:22 PM (n9pm0)

71 TBF, we had roughly 180 hours of male angst in the LOTR series.

Aragorn was a bit too tortured for me. There's a lot wrong with those movies, but the visuals and music are so amazing you kind of get lost in them.

But as a fan and scholar of the world and books, the second movie was so wretched and awful that it ruined my love of the trilogy. Return of the King was better, marginally, but not better enough to make up for the ghastly abortion that part 2 was.

Peter Jackson basically shredded the book, used it for toilet paper, then shoved it down viewers' throats. It was only tangentially related to the actual events and characters of the book, and what he did to Faramir is unforgiveable. That character existed and was used in the book for a very particular, deliberate purpose and Jackson crapped all over it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:23 PM (KZzsI)

72 ||*cough*

Sofia||

That's, uh, auto-correct's fault. My brain's auto-correct.

||Wasn't Sofia Boutella the lass with the pointy prostheses in Kingsmen?||

Yeah, she was great in that.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:23 PM (dhFCT)

73 Thelma and Louise was a stupid movie, and everyone knows it. You can tell because *no* cable channel ever picks it up and runs it, no one wants to see that shit. No one ever wanted to see it. Another movie made to fit "the narrative" that all the lemmings dutifully bowed down to.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 25, 2021 07:24 PM (WmVfO)

74 Harry Potter took seven years to sort out whatever that business was, but if it had been John McClain, he would have crawled through the ducts and shot all the bad guys in the face before the sun came up.

/I tell most jokes only twice but a few are regulars.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 25, 2021 07:24 PM (ybIRR)

75 I assume this latest Cage film is Oscar worthy compared to Drive Angry.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:25 PM (2DOZq)

76 ||Nic Cage is good in Joe.||

A great, understated performance.

||the second movie was so wretched and awful that it ruined my love of the trilogy. ||

So it's not just me!

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:25 PM (dhFCT)

77 I think I saw Thelma and Louise in theater

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:25 PM (2JoB8)

78 21 Well Foundation is out on Apple+. The books have a lot of weaknesses which the series could overcome. Instead we get boredom in two episodes

===

I watched ep 1.
Not binge worthy but I will keep watching in installments I guess, unless it gets too woke

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 07:25 PM (oEn12)

79 Thelma and Louise was a stupid movie, and everyone knows it. You can tell because *no* cable channel ever picks it up and runs it, no one wants to see that shit. No one ever wanted to see it. Another movie made to fit "the narrative" that all the lemmings dutifully bowed down to.

And yet, The Shawshank Redemption runs 20x a day. Who are all these people that keep watching that movie? Do they even exist?

Posted by: pep at September 25, 2021 07:26 PM (ZsR3z)

80 what he did to Faramir is unforgiveable.
---

What he did to Denethor is awful!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:26 PM (Dc2NZ)

81 Toured thru the pawn shop for something new to watch
Ransom- Ok
Creed- good background for doing other things
Dune- I just can't do that stuff. Back to the pawn shop it goes.

The complete Twilight Zone is a keeper.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:26 PM (5jZ3u)

82 air ducts are not engineered to support the weight of a person well nor are they big enough to crawl through in almost all cases

-
Jefferies tubes, on the other hand, it's all good.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 25, 2021 07:26 PM (d9FiS)

83
Modern musicals are amorphous blobs with maybe one standout number.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord

___________

Every ALW musical I've seen has been one good tune floating in a sea of sludge.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 25, 2021 07:27 PM (/U27+)

84 Nick was good in Windtalkers

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:27 PM (2JoB8)

85 Can't say I've cared one way or the other for 99.9% of the actors nowadays.

And as far as things coming out of Hollyweird as of late, I'm glad to not pay for their degeneracy.

Hub and I will stick with the old classics.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 25, 2021 07:27 PM (PZBsS)

86 That character existed and was used in the book for a very particular, deliberate purpose and Jackson crapped all over it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:23 PM (KZzsI)
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For me, I think it was the idea of Smeagol seeding mistrust between Frodo and Sam. I couldn't get on board with that idea at all, considering what Frodo and Sam had been through up to that point. I also agree that Faramir's character was assassinated in that film.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 25, 2021 07:27 PM (K5n5d)

87 Valley Girl is Cage's best movie. Okay maybe not but his best movie sidetrack.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:28 PM (2DOZq)

88 Sidetrack = sound track

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:28 PM (2DOZq)

89 Wasn't Sofia Boutella the lass with the pointy prostheses in Kingsmen?
Posted by: pep at September 25, 2021 07:21 PM (ZsR3z)


Sure was! She does pointy stilletto-type stuff really well.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 25, 2021 07:29 PM (ZSK0i)

90 I'm going to type this out loud. I really liked Raising Arizona.

Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2021 07:29 PM (0OP+5)

91 Also watched ep one of Midnight Mass.
Slow burn
But I am unironically enjoying all the hymns.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 07:29 PM (oEn12)

92 I wonder about Geena Davis. She was really cute with the dimples and huge eyes and curly hair, and she was a pretty solid actress. But she never seemed to be able to break through. I actually liked her a lot as the action girl in Long Kiss Goodnight, but for some reason it just didn't get any traction.

She was in three movies I really liked though: Fletch, The Fly, and Beetlejuice. Earth Girls are Easy wasn't good but it was fun and she looks stunning in it.

But if you look at her career, she did an AWFUL lot of woke parts and narrative stuff, really trying to push a certain ideology in her roles and stories. That might have hurt her. She really seems to be a True Believer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:29 PM (KZzsI)

93 No shame, Eromero!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:29 PM (Dc2NZ)

94 @23

The Middlebase, in the TV series "Middleman", had a Nakatomi Protocol, which expanded and strengthened the ventilation ducts in the event that bad guys took over the base.

Posted by: junior at September 25, 2021 07:29 PM (SkQiU)

95 Thelma and Louise was a stupid movie, and everyone knows it. You can tell because *no* cable channel ever picks it up and runs it, no one wants to see that shit. No one ever wanted to see it. Another movie made to fit "the narrative" that all the lemmings dutifully bowed down to.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 25, 2021 07:24 PM (WmVfO)

But it had that moment where most women in the world saw Brad Pitt for the first time and the earth shook with a global 8.5 of jaws hitting the floor.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at September 25, 2021 07:30 PM (nWxPx)

96 SMH, me too. I don't buy anything that I don't want to watch many times over.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:30 PM (5jZ3u)

97
The Quick and the Dead was a really bad movie, btw.
It was a tarted up, perfumed french whore of a movie.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 25, 2021 07:30 PM (htiwo)

98 Watching Tenet for the 10 or 12th time. I see something new every time through. Even backward, with a temporal viewing.

Posted by: mot at September 25, 2021 07:30 PM (n9pm0)

99 I'm going to type this out loud. I really liked Raising Arizona.
Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2021

I agree.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 25, 2021 07:30 PM (cSyAR)

100 As long as we're admitting we're Cageholics, I'll admit I liked him quite a bit in Knowing...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 25, 2021 07:30 PM (ZSK0i)

101 But it had that moment where most women in the world saw Brad Pitt for the first time and the earth shook with a global 8.5 of jaws hitting the floor.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at September 25, 2021 07:30 PM (nWxPx)


Shirtless.

Posted by: G. Gnome will not comply at September 25, 2021 07:31 PM (OQcPl)

102 RedLetterMedia couldn't figure out Malignant, all they knew was it was bad.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 07:31 PM (4thlk)

103 As long as we're admitting we're Cageholics, I'll admit I liked him quite a bit in Knowing...
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I'll admit that movie is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me...It's a strange film.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 25, 2021 07:31 PM (K5n5d)

104 Last weekend I watched "The Ice Road" w/ Liam Neeson while staying at some friends (their selection, not mine). I'm not sure what was worse, the plot holes, or the nexflix budget cgi. It was VERY difficult, but I did manage to not point any of them out, as my friend's wife seemed to be enjoying it. That's said, obligatory 1 hr 50 min I will never get back.

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 07:31 PM (8TpiG)

105 Coen Brothers put out a string of great movies for a while but they sort of stumbled with Burn after Reading and from what I've seen have not really gotten their mojo back.

I mean, they did well with True Grit, but it was a remake of a classic movie from an amazing book, so it was a sure thing but it didn't have the magic of their earlier stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:32 PM (KZzsI)

106 Harry Potter took seven years to sort out whatever that business was, but if it had been John McClain, he would have crawled through the ducts and shot all the bad guys in the face before the sun came up.

/I tell most jokes only twice but a few are regulars.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 25, 2021 07:24 PM (ybIRR)

I don't remember what the explanation was, for why the wizarding world stays hidden from the muggle world, but nowadays of course, gunpowder would be a bad thing for wizards to have to handle.

A mythology that featured a past where wizards and witches were NOT hidden, but became so with the invention of gunpowder would be an interesting take.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 07:32 PM (47mFt)

107 Three favorite sports movies
Glory Road
Moneyball
The Replacements

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (5jZ3u)

108 I like LOTR but I don't relate it to the books.It's parallel universe stuff.
Same with the Hobbit movies.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (oEn12)

109 >>>I'm going to type this out loud. I really liked Raising Arizona.
Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2021

I agree.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 25, 2021 07:30 PM (cSyAR)

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Ditto. What's not to like?

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (8TpiG)

110 Yup. Raising Arizona. Fun to watch, not sure what the message was. Same locations as Used Cars, maybe.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (taPSh)

111 In a thread a couple of days ago I recommended the Jackie Chan movie The Foreigner. Complete opposite of your normal Chan movie. Pierce Bronson was really good in it too.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (2DOZq)

112 @31, Skip would know ...

@71, yeah, what they did to Faramir was off-scale effed-up.
+ they took away his best line "I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the steed for its swiftness; I only love what they protect ... "

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (jDHSU)

113 Recidivism is a terrible word.

It Shor is a terrible word.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 25, 2021 07:34 PM (cSyAR)

114 As long as we're admitting we're Cageholics, I'll admit I liked him quite a bit in Knowing...

He did two great paranormal movies around the same time: Knowing and Next. They're both pretty great little underrated thrillers.

The Quick and the Dead was a really bad movie, btw

The western with Sharon Stone? That's a guilty pleasure. I know its cheesy as hell but I still enjoy it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:34 PM (KZzsI)

115 SMH, me too. I don't buy anything that I don't want to watch many times over.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Once upon a time, I used to love watching movies and TV series, even binging on some of them.

Now, I can't stand having the TV on.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 25, 2021 07:34 PM (PZBsS)

116 Everyone likes Raising Arizona. Except the girl I took to it, she didn't understand any of it. She was none to bright.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 07:34 PM (4thlk)

117 Ditto. What's not to like?
Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (8TpiG)


Immediately flashes on image of M. Emmet Walsh working his jaws next to the drill press...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 25, 2021 07:34 PM (ZSK0i)

118 90 I'm going to type this out loud. I really liked Raising Arizona.
Posted by: Eromero at

I very much enjoyed it!

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 07:34 PM (U2p+3)

119 102 RedLetterMedia couldn't figure out Malignant, all they knew was it was bad.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 07:31 PM (4thlk)
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That was an interesting review. A horror flick with the quality of a Lifetime movie and filmed in beautiful BC wine country. So scary!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:35 PM (Dc2NZ)

120 Three favorite sports movies
Glory Road
Moneyball
The Replacements
Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (5jZ3u)


Major League
Caddyshack

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 25, 2021 07:35 PM (Qvf3r)

121 Three favorite sports movies
Glory Road
Moneyball
The Replacements
Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (5jZ3

The Natural
Invincible
Brian's Song


Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:35 PM (2DOZq)

122 Worse film seen lately: American Assassin.

The main Mitch Rapp character is miscast. And a waste of Michael Keaton.

I think it's the divergent main actor, he's a soft soy boy trying to be a tough guy. The stories in the books are great. Maybe make Mitch Rapp, Michelle Rapp.

Posted by: mot at September 25, 2021 07:35 PM (n9pm0)

123 nurse, can't wait for you to meet Eromero.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:36 PM (5jZ3u)

124 'Son, you have a panty on your head.'

Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2021 07:36 PM (0OP+5)

125 ||Every ALW musical I've seen has been one good tune floating in a sea of sludge.||

I'm impressed you can find a good tune in there. Less impressed that you tried, tbh.

I wonder about Geena Davis...But she never seemed to be able to break through. ||

Wut? She was a hot ticket from about 1983, when she was a regular on Dabney Coleman's "Buffalo Bill" show, went from there to her own series, to being in Accidental Tourirst, The Fly, Earth Girls Are Easy, League of Their Own, etc. etc. etc., until the killer of movies and careers (and her then husband) Renny Harlan put her in the box office poison that was "Cutthroat Island".

Seriously, she's not in another movie for four years after that. Then when she re-emerges, she's doing "mom" roles.

By the way, I'm obligated to note that Ms. Davis was an attendee at my mom's engagement party. So I'm noting that.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:36 PM (dhFCT)

126 Q 'n' the D was hilarious. It needed John McEnroe asking his favorite question now and again.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 07:37 PM (taPSh)

127 Been rewatching "Desperado" on Amazon Prime. Still holds up pretty well...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 25, 2021 07:37 PM (K5n5d)

128 @106

That recent Pixar movie - Onward - postulated that magic worked. But who wants to go to all the trouble of casting a spell to make light, when you can flip a light switch instead?

Posted by: junior at September 25, 2021 07:37 PM (SkQiU)

129 RedLetterMedia couldn't figure out Malignant, all they knew was it was bad.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 07:31 PM (4thlk)

That was an interesting review. A horror flick with the quality of a Lifetime movie and filmed in beautiful BC wine country. So scary!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:35 PM (Dc2NZ)

I was of the impression they said they weren't sure what to make of it, whether it's a great movie or a terrible one, but that they both enjoyed watching it.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 07:37 PM (47mFt)

130 I will cop to enjoying "The Quick and the Dead" when it came out. I enjoyed the Sam Raiminess of the visuals, like the view of the duel through the exit wound of the sheriff.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:37 PM (Dc2NZ)

131 William Fickert was hilarious in Drive Angry.

Posted by: butch at September 25, 2021 07:37 PM (cHvOo)

132 Posted by: mot at September 25, 2021 07:35 PM (n9pm0)

Totally agree. I would have cast JK Simmons as Hank and one of those brothers from Supernatural as Rapp.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:38 PM (2DOZq)

133 I was of the impression they said they weren't sure what to make of it, whether it's a great movie or a terrible one, but that they both enjoyed watching it.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 07:37 PM (47mFt)

Oh whoops! I was thinking of that awful Neil Bloomkamp horror movie they just reviewed.

No, they liked Malignant.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:38 PM (Dc2NZ)

134 That was weird. Typing in the last comment. John McEnroe yelling at Venus(?) Williams on the tube.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 07:38 PM (taPSh)

135 Brian's Song is pretty bad actually. It may have been a good TV movie for early seventies but it doesn't hold up. Cheesy sets, bad dialogue and bad acting.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 07:38 PM (4thlk)

136 The best Pixar was the shorts they did. The little green guy in "Lifted" was so perfect.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:38 PM (5jZ3u)

137
I enjoyed the Sam Raiminess of the visuals, like the view of the duel through the exit wound of the sheriff.
Posted by: Eris


Yeah, you were dazzled by the director's cheap, shiny baubles.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 25, 2021 07:39 PM (htiwo)

138 Gotta add in Tin Cup and Wrestler to favorite sports movies (does Wrestler really qualify?) And Dodgeball is stupid fun. Eight Men Out is good. Rocky Balboa was surprisingly great, although partly a remake of Rocky. I liked Chariots of Fire a ton but haven't seen it since it was in theaters so might not any more. Slapshot was a lot of fun, and Rocky of course.

I hear Creed was really good too, but I haven't seen that yet.

Rocky Balboa blew me away, especially the speech to his yuppie son.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:39 PM (KZzsI)

139 The Quick and the Dead was a really bad movie, btw

The western with Sharon Stone? That's a guilty pleasure. I know its cheesy as hell but I still enjoy it.

The Quick and The Dead is also an obscure documentary about F1. Stacey Keach narrates it. Came out in 1974.



The Quick and The Dead is also an F1 documentary. Came out in 1974, Stacey Keach narrates it. It's very good and very 1974. It's also hard to find. If you can find it, watch. It's a slice in time through the lenses of Formula One. It's amazing anybody is still alive from that time period.

Posted by: Joy Reid, MSNBC at September 25, 2021 07:39 PM (QFVV9)

140 I'm shallow like that, Sooth.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:39 PM (Dc2NZ)

141 The Quick and the Dead is amazing, and Gene Hackman is amazing.

When the Phantom Menace came out I told people that Raising Arizona had better action, and more of it. You had to be inventive before red letter media broke that fucking collective delusion.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 25, 2021 07:40 PM (ybIRR)

142 Off horrible wench sock

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 07:40 PM (QFVV9)

143 "I was of the impression they said they weren't sure what to make of it, whether it's a great movie or a terrible one, but that they both enjoyed watching it."

I got the impression they thought it was the worst movie so far this year.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 07:40 PM (4thlk)

144 Ben Had!
There's so many folks I'm looking forward to meeting!

I sent you a picture from Marine's visit. Did you get it?

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 07:40 PM (U2p+3)

145 >>>Valley Girl is Cage's best movie. Okay maybe not but his best movie sidetrack.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:28 PM (2DOZq)

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My first hs love broke up with me right when that film hit cable. I watched it a lot. I think it may have been a form of self punishment, as he got the girl back. And, yes. Good tunes.

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 07:40 PM (8TpiG)

146 I hear Creed was really good too, but I haven't seen that yet.

Rocky Balboa blew me away, especially the speech to his yuppie son.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:39 PM (KZzsI)
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Both the Creed movies were really good character studies. I've enjoyed Rocky Balboa and Creed/Creed II more than the originals.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 07:41 PM (Dc2NZ)

147 By the way, I'm obligated to note that Ms. Davis was an attendee at my mom's engagement party. So I'm noting that.

I bet she was amazing looking. Yeah Cutthroat Island was.. not good. And very expensive.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:41 PM (KZzsI)

148 ||102 RedLetterMedia couldn't figure out Malignant, all they knew was it was bad.||

I honestly don't get the reactions to this. I know Jay has seen a horror movie before. I think Mike has, too. Yeah, the third act has a big "ask", but it's not the biggest we've ever seen, and it gives the movie a way to be more interesting than it would otherwise be.

||they sort of stumbled with Burn after Reading and from what I've seen have not really gotten their mojo back.||

Well, Mr. Taylor, I wouldn't agree since "A Serious Man" may be my favorite movie of theirs but perhaps what you are sensing is Ethan Coen's ennui. He's apparently not into making movies any more.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:41 PM (dhFCT)

149 Brian's Song is pretty bad actually. It may have been a good TV movie for early seventies but it doesn't hold up. Cheesy sets, bad dialogue and bad acting.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 07:38 PM (4thlk)

An early example of the lead characters being totally gay in every way, except they don't have sex with each other.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 07:41 PM (47mFt)

150 I would say Quick and the Dead and remake of Magnificent Seven are equal, watchable but not ever going to be a not miss

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:42 PM (2JoB8)

151 nurse, I got both of them. Thank you for that lovely gift.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:42 PM (5jZ3u)

152 Didn't Cage get kicked out of a Las Vegas steakhouse recently for being drunk and combative? The lad needs to reconsider the disorderly behavior when he's being served food.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 25, 2021 07:42 PM (stUc+)

153 I got the impression they thought it was the worst movie so far this year.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 07:40 PM (4thlk)

Or the greatest.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 07:43 PM (47mFt)

154 The Quick and the Dead was also a Sam Elliot/Louis L'Amour TV movie. That was okay.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 07:43 PM (4thlk)

155 Sits on a bench in Savannah, in a white suit' with a box of chocolates. And none of it melts on him.
-Eromero is a lot like that.

Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2021 07:44 PM (0OP+5)

156 I'll take Cinderella Man over Creed any day.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:44 PM (5jZ3u)

157 For being a dumb B-Movie western, Quick and the Dead had a lot of really great performances from some truly great actors (Gene Hackman is always good, little Leo DiCaprio is solid, and it was the first film I saw Russel Crowe in and he just is like an eyeball magnet, you just want to watch him do anything.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:44 PM (KZzsI)

158 I would say Quick and the Dead and remake of Magnificent Seven are equal, watchable but not ever going to be a not miss
Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:42 PM (2JoB

If you know who Bass Reeves was the remake of the Magnificent Seven is just a little bit better than if you don't.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:45 PM (2DOZq)

159 Cage, the most interesting film maker since Kubrick died?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 07:45 PM (V8JPv)

160 ||I'm shallow like that, Sooth.||

lol

|| I got the impression they thought it was the worst
. . .
Or the greatest.||

Yeah, see, I don't get this. It's a fine action/slasher with a preposterous--but well telegraphed--twist. Very competent, fairly fun, probably not going to resurrect the genre.

I dunno, maybe I'm just jaded, but it'd be perfectly at home alongside the films on "The Last Drive-In". I guess it's higher budget than most.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:45 PM (dhFCT)

161 Well, Mr. Taylor, I wouldn't agree since "A Serious Man" may be my favorite movie of theirs but perhaps what you are sensing is Ethan Coen's ennui. He's apparently not into making movies any more.
Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:41 PM (dhFCT)

I'm not terribly fond of Barton Fink, but pretty much everything else they've done is top notch. I think Hail Caesar! is a modern masterpiece.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 07:46 PM (47mFt)

162 A bit OT, but when did Russel effing Brand get red-pilled?

https://youtu.be/0k6X03XvxWw

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 07:46 PM (oEn12)

163 Eromero is the epitome of a Southern Gentleman.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:46 PM (5jZ3u)

164 until the killer of movies and careers (and her then husband) Renny Harlan put her in the box office poison that was "Cutthroat Island".

I love that movie. Own it on dvd and have watched many times. It's a good pirate flick with lots of ships at sea, treasure, sword fighting, ship's cannons, and an over the top fantastic swan dive off the bow of a sinking ship. What's not to like?

Posted by: Russkilitlover at September 25, 2021 07:47 PM (nWxPx)

165 92 I wonder about Geena Davis. She was really cute with the dimples and huge eyes and curly hair, and she was a pretty solid actress. But she never seemed to be able to break through. I actually liked her a lot as the action girl in Long Kiss Goodnight, but for some reason it just didn't get any traction.

She was in three movies I really liked though: Fletch, The Fly, and Beetlejuice. Earth Girls are Easy wasn't good but it was fun and she looks stunning in it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:29 PM (KZzsI)


"Earth Girls are Easy" was on one of the cable channels just last night. It's a fun, stupid, entertaining movie. I watched it. Jim Carey is in it, and not quite as obnoxious as usual. The late Jeff Goldbloom gives a good performance, too.

Posted by: a.moron at September 25, 2021 07:47 PM (I5FZ1)

166 Barton Fink is a super slow burn, but it pays off, I think.

I have not seen A Serious Man yet, so that might change my mind.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:47 PM (KZzsI)

167 ||I'll take Cinderella Man over Creed any day.||

Did not care for the slander of Max Baer, myself. I'd probably prefer Creed.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:47 PM (dhFCT)

168 >>>The late Jeff Goldbloom gives a good performance, too.

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Since when is he mort?

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 07:48 PM (8TpiG)

169 Brian's Song was a lot like Love Story.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 07:48 PM (taPSh)

170 163 Eromero is the epitome of a Southern Gentleman.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:46 PM
Some of my 'clients', which I 'interacted' with the past 3 days probably disagree with you, Ben Had.

Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2021 07:49 PM (0OP+5)

171 ||I'm not terribly fond of Barton Fink, but pretty much everything else they've done is top notch. I think Hail Caesar! is a modern masterpiece.||

"A Tale of the Christ" is definitely under-rated. The only film of theirs I actively disliked when I saw it was "The Man Who Knew Too Much", but I want to see it again after having seen "A Serious Man" so many times.

||I have not seen A Serious Man yet, so that might change my mind.||

"A Serious Mind" is the Mentaculus of Coen Bros movies. Which is a reference you can't get without seeing "A Serious Mind". Which is really, really appropriate.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:49 PM (dhFCT)

172 107 Three favorite sports movies
Glory Road
Moneyball
The Replacements

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (5jZ3u)


No love for "Dodgeball" or "North Dallas 40" ?

Posted by: a.moron at September 25, 2021 07:49 PM (I5FZ1)

173 Yeah, see, I don't get this. It's a fine action/slasher with a preposterous--but well telegraphed--twist. Very competent, fairly fun, probably not going to resurrect the genre.

I dunno, maybe I'm just jaded, but it'd be perfectly at home alongside the films on "The Last Drive-In". I guess it's higher budget than most.
Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:45 PM (dhFCT)

I haven't seen it, but I think what they were saying is it's either operating at a very surface level, or it's a complex meta take on the genre.

What I heard them say was, they think the surface level film is not terribly interesting, but if it's meant to be deeper, more bending and twisting within the genre, with the surface story being essentially beside the point, then it's pretty ingenious. Given that Wan is an otherwise competent filmmaker, I think they're willing to assume it's more of the latter.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 07:49 PM (47mFt)

174 Movie they never play on TV is The War Lord. Actually they haven't been playing any of Heston's epics except on Christmas and Easter.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:50 PM (2DOZq)

175 I remember when Brian's Song was on TV for first time, next day everyone thought it was greatest

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:50 PM (2JoB8)

176 Jeff Goldblum was a good actor who turned in some really amazing roles (probably his best is Mister Frost). But damn, that was a man who took himself entirely too seriously. He really thought he was beefcake that all the women wanted and the most talented man in every room.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:50 PM (KZzsI)

177 ||Brian's Song was a lot like Love Story.||

Five'll get you ten, there was a "Save The Cat" circulating around 1970 that explains that.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:50 PM (dhFCT)

178 Goldbloom has always been mort. He played Ali McGraw in Love Story.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 07:50 PM (taPSh)

179 Eromero, they appreciated your restraint in not serving up a hickory shampoo.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:50 PM (5jZ3u)

180 Oops. I meant Love Story II: The Zombie Years.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 07:51 PM (taPSh)

181 What's with all the Brian's Song blasphemy?

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:51 PM (2DOZq)

182 Wasn't Goldblum the corpse in The Big Chill?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:51 PM (KZzsI)

183 ||What I heard them say was, they think the surface level film is not terribly interesting, but if it's meant to be deeper, more bending and twisting within the genre, with the surface story being essentially beside the point, then it's pretty ingenious.||

I'll have to finish watching that. For those who haven't seen Malignant, the RLM review is pure spoilers. The first words out of Mike's mouth, practically.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:52 PM (dhFCT)

184 So apparently there is a big debate on the intertubz if Sophia Boutella is actually a woman, like born with XX or not.

I remember seeing it in Atomic Blonde and well, her scenes with Charlize seemed...odd.

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 07:52 PM (DpkTQ)

185 "Hail Caesar!" is top 5 Coens, with "Fargo", " No Country", " Man Who Wasn't There" and "A Serious Man".

I love genre romps like "Raising Arizona", "Lebowski" and "Burn After Reading", but the 5 above are great movies. A cut or two above.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 07:53 PM (V8JPv)

186 Eromero. I had the shop make me another shirt

I'm Old
Don't piss me off
Prison is not a deterrant

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:53 PM (5jZ3u)

187 >>>Ali McGraw in Love Story.

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Can't believe she's my mom's age. I remember thinking as a young'n that she was a total smoke show. Looking back at her picks, was not wrong.

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 07:53 PM (8TpiG)

188 He really thought he was beefcake that all the women wanted and the most talented man in every room.

And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.

Posted by: Some other star at September 25, 2021 07:53 PM (DpkTQ)

189 Is Jeff Goldbloom related to Jeff Goldblum?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (oEn12)

190 I watched a few minutes of a newish version of 30,000 Leagues Under the Sea. It's a contemporary version of the Jules Verne novel.
I hated the few minutes I saw. Cheesy Jules Verne movies need to be kept in his setting.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (cSyAR)

191 Sophia Boutella

Either way, he/she's the kind of "chick" who gets described as "exotic," because he/she's not attractive.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (QU5/8)

192 >>>Wasn't Goldblum the corpse in The Big Chill?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:51 PM (KZzsI)

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Kevin Costner

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (8TpiG)

193 Evening everyone. I've been on a minor character kick lately. To me, they add so much to a film but usually are near invisible. But, if the actors get it wrong, it can destroy an otherwise fine film.

Talking about Cage reminded me that in 8mm, the mother of the snuffed girl, Janet Mathews (played by Amy Morton), when Cage was interviewing her, completely nailed the mannerisms, look, and despair of what I would call, working class mill moms/wives of that time.

I was working in the steel mills in the 70s and wow, spot on.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (mD/uy)

194 Ali McGraw was pretty but someone pushed the Nose Height slider up too high on her, she has more upper lip than forehead

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (KZzsI)

195 lol Ben Had.

Prison is definitely not a deterrent for me.

I'd just prefer the g-babies to not visit me there.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 25, 2021 07:55 PM (PZBsS)

196 186 Eromero. I had the shop make me another shirt

I'm Old
Don't piss me off
Prison is not a deterrant

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:53 PM
Did you get a couple for me and Hrothgar, especially Hrothgar?

Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2021 07:55 PM (0OP+5)

197 Kevin Costner

Oh yeah that's right, and they cut every shot that showed him, heh.

Six Degrees: the movie that they both were in is one of my favorite westerns, Silverado.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:55 PM (KZzsI)

198 Miller's Crossing is the only Coen Brothers movie I like.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:56 PM (2DOZq)

199 178 Goldbloom has always been mort. He played Ali McGraw in Love Story.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 07:50 PM (taPSh)


And Brian in "Brian's Song".

Posted by: a.moron at September 25, 2021 07:56 PM (I5FZ1)

200 Goldbloom is the parody Goldblum. Earth girls are easy.

Posted by: klaftern at September 25, 2021 07:56 PM (taPSh)

201 >>>Six Degrees: the movie that they both were in is one of my favorite westerns, Silverado.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:55 PM (KZzsI)

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Agreed

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 07:56 PM (8TpiG)

202 Speaking of Charlize Theron...why is she getting cast in action movies?

She's got some acting talent, she's got some charisma, and obviously she's beautiful.

But if she gets in a fight with a guy the only way she's winning is if that's the guy's kink.

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 07:56 PM (DpkTQ)

203
fat guy with a beard! fat guy with a beard !

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 25, 2021 07:57 PM (bTQ72)

204 Sophia has a jaw that is almost exactly the same as Henry Cavill.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 07:57 PM (csEWM)

205 Eromero, will do. Black or red?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:57 PM (5jZ3u)

206 I need to watch the Quick and the Dead again just for the movie aspects. I recall despising it with the heat of a thousand suns because it was so farcical. I care about actual Old West history and that one, at time set it back a bit. Not as if most movies don't, but that one stood out in particular.

I love the idea of there being gunfighter contest. Like the people who check "gunfighter" off as their occupation when they go through customs or answer a census. As if all those professional gunfighters would come together in a contest to see who is best. And as if any of them would be hot women by Hollyweird standards.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 07:57 PM (IbPe4)

207 189 Is Jeff Goldbloom related to Jeff Goldblum?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (oEn12)


Cousins.

Posted by: a.moron at September 25, 2021 07:58 PM (I5FZ1)

208 Sophia has a jaw that is almost exactly the same as Henry Cavill.

Someone dug up a picture of her/its dad and...they look exactly the same.

The big reveal though is Sophia got her/its start in an all male dance group in France.

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 07:58 PM (DpkTQ)

209 I shouldn't pick on Ali McGraw like that, I'd hate to think what some dude on a message board would make of my face.

It just always bugged me

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:58 PM (KZzsI)

210 It's getting almost every oder movie I want to see how stars in them age, some badly, most average but some age very well, and looks then don't guarantee now.

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 07:58 PM (2JoB8)

211 WHAT LINK!!!!
Posted by: BurtTC
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https://tinyurl.com/5ysufawh
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 25, 2021 12:51 AM

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2021 07:58 PM (pK7cg)

212 202 Speaking of Charlize Theron...why is she getting cast in action movies?

She's got some acting talent, she's got some charisma, and obviously she's beautiful.

But if she gets in a fight with a guy the only way she's winning is if that's the guy's kink.
Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 07:56 PM (DpkTQ)

I think (and I am having to look up everyone's name tonight) Emily Blunt did a great job in Edge of Tomorrow. It can be done. Guns and mech suits help a lot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 07:58 PM (csEWM)

213 Talking about Cage reminded me that in 8mm, the mother of the snuffed girl, Janet Mathews (played by Amy Morton), when Cage was interviewing her, completely nailed the mannerisms, look, and despair of what I would call, working class mill moms/wives of that time.

I was working in the steel mills in the 70s and wow, spot on.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (mD/uy)

That was a really good, though very dark and depressing, movie.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 25, 2021 07:59 PM (II3Gr)

214 Posted by: Tonypete at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (mD/uy)

8mm is my favorite Cage movie. Dark but really well done by everyone. And though dark the bad guys got exactly what you wanted them to get.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 07:59 PM (2DOZq)

215 Oh and speaking of Henry Cavill I think he was very well cast for superman.

The plot of the movies he was in had serious issues but I always thought he nailed the role.

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 07:59 PM (DpkTQ)

216 205 Eromero, will do. Black or red?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:57 PM
Black for me, will go geat with a vest I wear a lot. Large and long. SWIDT?

Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2021 07:59 PM (0OP+5)

217 I need to watch the Quick and the Dead again just for the movie aspects.

Its extremely well made, Sam Raimi having loads of fun (although the shot of the blind kid pouring out red ink had to be something that the producers forced him to use). And like I said some great performances. The entire concept is ludicrous and silly but once you check that off I think its fun to watch.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:00 PM (KZzsI)

218 WHAT LINK!!!!
Posted by: BurtTC

https://tinyurl.com/5ysufawh
Posted by: Cicero

I'll have a large number of hubbas please.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 25, 2021 08:00 PM (mD/uy)

219 07 Three favorite sports movies
Glory Road
Moneyball
The Replacements

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (5jZ3u)

Rocky - though it was way beyond a sports movie
The Natural
Hoosiers

For fun, and a constant rewatch, Tin Cup and Happy Gilmore.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:00 PM (IbPe4)

220 "Miller's Crossing" is a lot of fun, but it's a bit mannered. The boys learned how to let the thing breathe as they went on.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:00 PM (V8JPv)

221 Watching Jay and Rich rank Carpenter movies worst to best, and I'm pissed off right out of the gate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Nt1_TWdv0

What the hell, Rich?!? "Dark Star" is the worst? It's brilliant!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 08:01 PM (Dc2NZ)

222 213 Talking about Cage reminded me that in 8mm, the mother of the snuffed girl, Janet Mathews (played by Amy Morton), when Cage was interviewing her, completely nailed the mannerisms, look, and despair of what I would call, working class mill moms/wives of that time.

I was working in the steel mills in the 70s and wow, spot on.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (mD/uy)

That was a really good, though very dark and depressing, movie.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 25, 2021 07:59 PM (II3Gr)

Very very depressing. The movie works, but not in any sort of uplifting way. Not in a 'justice was exacted' or Revenge movie sort of way.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:01 PM (csEWM)

223 202 Speaking of Charlize Theron...why is she getting cast in action movies?

She's got some acting talent, she's got some charisma, and obviously she's beautiful.

But if she gets in a fight with a guy the only way she's winning is if that's the guy's kink.

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 07:56 PM (DpkTQ)


I wanted to like "Atomic Blond", but I couldn't quite suspend disbelief while she beat up three or four guys, all twice her size, at the same time.

Posted by: a.moron at September 25, 2021 08:01 PM (I5FZ1)

224 104 Last weekend I watched "The Ice Road" w/ Liam Neeson while staying at some friends (their selection, not mine). I'm not sure what was worse, the plot holes, or the nexflix budget cgi. It was VERY difficult, but I did manage to not point any of them out, as my friend's wife seemed to be enjoying it. That's said, obligatory 1 hr 50 min I will never get back.
Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 07:31 PM (8TpiG)

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I saw that (I like movies with desolate landscapes). Still trying to figure out how they swapped out cabs on a single lane road in about 10 minutes

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 25, 2021 08:01 PM (CAJOC)

225
I think (and I am having to look up everyone's name tonight) Emily Blunt did a great job in Edge of Tomorrow. It can be done. Guns and mech suits help a lot.


I suppose when you are talking mech suits and time travel by window for suspension of disbelief gets much larger then it does for "spy in the 80s".

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 08:01 PM (DpkTQ)

226 I think (and I am having to look up everyone's name tonight) Emily Blunt did a great job in Edge of Tomorrow. It can be done. Guns and mech suits help a lot.

I also like the emotionless, parasitical alien. But enough about Tom Cruise.

Posted by: pep at September 25, 2021 08:02 PM (ZsR3z)

227 219 07 Three favorite sports movies
Glory Road
Moneyball
The Replacements
Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (5jZ3u)
Rocky - though it was way beyond a sports movie
The Natural
Hoosiers
For fun, and a constant rewatch, Tin Cup and Happy Gilmore.
Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:00 PM (IbPe4)

I do not even KNOW you people anymore. Necessary Roughness and Major League.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:02 PM (csEWM)

228 >>>Ali McGraw was pretty but someone pushed the Nose Height slider up too high on her, she has more upper lip than forehead
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 07:54 PM (KZzsI)

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Upon further review, she does have a nose similar to my wife's. I guess that would explain the attraction.

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 08:02 PM (8TpiG)

229 I'll have to finish watching that. For those who haven't seen Malignant, the RLM review is pure spoilers. The first words out of Mike's mouth, practically.
Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 07:52 PM (dhFCT)

I'm looking forward to seeing it, because I'm basically done with conventional moviemaking. I don't want any more straight storytelling, especially they way they do it these days.

Give me twisted. Which is why I love Nick Cage, I guess. Mandy is one of my favorite movies of the past few years.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 08:03 PM (47mFt)

230 Kevin Costner

Oh yeah that's right, and they cut every shot that showed him, heh.
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Ha! You think that's bad? See: 'The Big Chill'

Posted by: Zombie Kevin Costner at September 25, 2021 08:03 PM (830x5)

231 I wanted to like "Atomic Blond", but I couldn't quite suspend disbelief while she beat up three or four guys, all twice her size, at the same time.

I'd like to see a female led spy movie where she's managed to literally get all the bad guys fighting each other and gets to walk by them to take the MacGuffin.

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 08:03 PM (DpkTQ)

232 Very very depressing. The movie works, but not in any sort of uplifting way. Not in a 'justice was exacted' or Revenge movie sort of way.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:01 PM (csEWM)

Justice was carried out on James Gandolfini just like I wanted.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:03 PM (2DOZq)

233 220 "Miller's Crossing" is a lot of fun, but it's a bit mannered. The boys learned how to let the thing breathe as they went on.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:00 PM (V8JPv)

Bruce Willis movie in the 90s... Dead Man Walking(?) It had a great setup but kind of meandered after that initial set up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:03 PM (csEWM)

234 Apparently Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt are the same height - 5'7

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 08:05 PM (DpkTQ)

235 @215

I enjoyed Henry Cavill in The Witcher.

F**k.

The story floating around about the time he visited his nephew's school is also a good on him thing.

Posted by: junior at September 25, 2021 08:05 PM (SkQiU)

236 WHAT LINK!!!!
Posted by: BurtTC
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https://tinyurl.com/5ysufawh
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 25, 2021 12:51 AM
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2021 07:58 PM (pK7cg)

Bless you. She's like your dirty aunt (married in, we're not maniacs here). Lingers just a bit too long when you "accidentally" walk in when she's dressing.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 08:05 PM (47mFt)

237 I'd like to see a female led spy movie where she's managed to literally get all the bad guys fighting each other and gets to walk by them to take the MacGuffin.

That was actually what made Black Widow a somewhat compelling character in the first Avengers movie: she's defeating bad guys by interrogating them as they are questioning her, and they don't even know it. The fight was okay but her using her wits and cleverness to defeat them all was interesting and useful.

Then she did it again with Loki, by getting them all to underestimate her. And that scene where she's running from the Hulk and looks genuinely terrified for her life, I really liked that.

Then... she's fighting aliens with pistols.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:05 PM (KZzsI)

238 234 Apparently Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt are the same height - 5'7
Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 08:05 PM (DpkTQ)

She looked hot as a Saturday night special in Edge of Tomorrow. Sweaty and lean.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:05 PM (csEWM)

239 I love the idea of there being gunfighter contest. Like the people who check "gunfighter" off as their occupation when they go through customs or answer a census. As if all those professional gunfighters would come together in a contest to see who is best. And as if any of them would be hot women by Hollyweird standards.
Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 07:57 PM (IbPe4)


I dunno, Gene Hackman chewing the scenery like his name was Montalban was fabulous, but yes, the pretense was stilted, it is like the pretense of the Canterbury Tales without filling out any of the characters except three.

Pissed me off because the prop crew and armorer blew it on so many elements, THAT IS NOT HOW YOU LOAD A CAP AND BALL PISTOL.

However, Sharon Stone would be worth watching if she were baking cookies.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:06 PM (KbLYZ)

240 Bruce Willis movie in the 90s... Dead Man Walking(?) It had a great setup but kind of meandered after that initial set up.

One of the many remakes of Dashiell Hammet's Red Harvest book. But nobody has ever made the original which is frustrating as hell. Its one of his best stories.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:06 PM (KZzsI)

241 When the subject comes up I always say that Peppermint with Jennifer Garner did the badass female best.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:06 PM (2DOZq)

242 The story floating around about the time he visited his nephew's school is also a good on him thing.
Posted by: junior

What story?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 08:06 PM (oEn12)

243 ||What the hell, Rich?!? "Dark Star" is the worst? It's brilliant!||

Yeah, he's got "The Fog" down low, too.

||Give me twisted. Which is why I love Nick Cage, I guess. Mandy is one of my favorite movies of the past few years.||

Yeah, I think that's why we were cool with "Malignant". But it's probably going to have the reverse effect, given its box office failure.

At least we'll always have the nutso Japahinos to do the nutso movies.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:07 PM (dhFCT)

244 Sport moves off top of my head
Grand Prix
Rollerball

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 08:07 PM (2JoB8)

245
This week I decided to rewatch hbo's Rome series.

Ray Stevenson (Pullo) would've made a great Doctor Who.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 25, 2021 08:07 PM (htiwo)

246 do not even KNOW you people anymore. Necessary Roughness and Major League.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:02 PM (csEWM)

i love those. Necessary was better but I have seen both of them too many times.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:07 PM (IbPe4)

247 >>>WHAT LINK!!!!
Posted by: BurtTC


Posted by: Cicero

I'll have a large number of hubbas please.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 25, 2021 08:00 PM (mD/uy)

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Put that in color and it's almost up there with Farrah Fawcett's swimsuit poster.

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 08:08 PM (8TpiG)

248 Then... she's fighting aliens with pistols.

Hollywood has a lot of problems with the notion that the lead shouldn't be able to do everything. So "the greatest spy on earth" is running around in NYC fighting aliens with a handgun (uh...shouldn't Loki have found a better alien army?) and Capt James Kirk is exploring every derelict ship they run across - and karate chopping any hidden Klingons.

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 08:08 PM (DpkTQ)

249 Yeah, he's got "The Fog" down low, too.

The Fog suffers from a crappy Steven King premise.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:08 PM (KZzsI)

250 "Miller's Crossing" is a lot of fun, but it's a bit mannered. The boys learned how to let the thing breathe as they went on.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:00 PM (V8JPv)

Mannered? I don't know what you mean. It's damn near perfect storytelling. Complex, funny, brutal, sad and terrible. Just like life. Only the thing fits together like a German automobile (fresh off the line, not after you beat the hell out of it on the autobahn).

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2021 08:08 PM (47mFt)

251 @231...that would be the way to do it. If there was a brain in Hollywood. Our female hero relentlessly manipulates and outsmarts the macho fools who always understimate her. They end up killing/marginalizing each other and only realize too late that she won.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:08 PM (V8JPv)

252 I've watched Atomic Blonde a couple of times now. So I must like it. I do get the complaint about women brawling with men. It's become commonplace and ridiculous. But I think Atomic Blonde is well done enough to give it a pass; it's in another league than most female-led action movies. I also think the "but girls!" criticism can be overdone. The same people don't seem to have problems with Bruce Willis swinging over the side of a skyscraper on a firehose and shooting his way back inside even though he's a mere cop.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 25, 2021 08:08 PM (QU5/8)

253 Emily Blunt is married to Jim from The Office.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:09 PM (2DOZq)

254 Sports movie?

Hoosiers, Rush, Ford vs Ferrari, Caddyshack, Grand Prix, LeMans.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 08:09 PM (QFVV9)

255 219 07 Three favorite sports movies
Glory Road
Moneyball
The Replacements
Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 07:33 PM (5jZ3u)

Rocky - though it was way beyond a sports movie
The Natural
Hoosiers
For fun, and a constant rewatch, Tin Cup and Happy Gilmore.
Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:00 PM (IbPe4)

Up the Creek! Raft Races are a sport!

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 25, 2021 08:10 PM (oHd/0)

256 The Fog suffers from a crappy Steven King premise.

To quote Col. Nathan Jessup, "is there another kind?".

Posted by: pep at September 25, 2021 08:10 PM (ZsR3z)

257 You are a lying fuck Fink.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 25, 2021 08:10 PM (T1fV4)

258 245
This week I decided to rewatch hbo's Rome series.


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Love that show

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 08:10 PM (oEn12)

259 ||The Fog suffers from a crappy Steven King premise.

You mean Steven-King-style premise? 'cause Carpenter and Hill wrote it.

I think it's just a clean, simple SHORT ghost story, well told.

BTW, did you sign up for BasedCon next year?

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:10 PM (dhFCT)

260 The Fog suffers from a crappy Steven King premise.

You can really tell he'd been too long in Maine when he decided on the "monsters" in that movie.

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 08:11 PM (DpkTQ)

261
I love how all of you are leaving Kentucky Fried Movie off your lists.

(I know you all have it on VHS!)

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 25, 2021 08:11 PM (htiwo)

262 "Miller's Crossing" is a lot of fun, but it's a bit mannered. The boys learned how to let the thing breathe as they went on.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:00 PM (V8JPv)

I loved Miller's Crossing. I thing is a very underrated film. And not just underrated, but simply it has not been seen by enough people. I could see some people compare The Quick and the Dead to Miller's Crossing as Western and Mob Movies that took a lot of artistic license.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:11 PM (IbPe4)

263 Emily Blunt is a good actress. She made me hate her in Sicarrio.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 08:12 PM (5jZ3u)

264 249 Yeah, he's got "The Fog" down low, too.

The Fog suffers from a crappy Steven King premise.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:08 PM (KZzsI)

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The Fog isn't Stephen King, if I'm not mistaken. He wrote The Mist

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 25, 2021 08:12 PM (CAJOC)

265 Fog / Mist

220 / 221

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:12 PM (2DOZq)

266 I've watched Atomic Blonde a couple of times now.

The acting is pretty good - James McAvoy is his normal entertaining self - and the plot is a little more believable then the average spy flick.

Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 08:13 PM (DpkTQ)

267 258 245
This week I decided to rewatch hbo's Rome series

Love that show
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 08:10 PM (oEn12)

I like the show (the guy playing Caesar does pretty well. However, I was taken out early by the one meathead (the guy who breaks ranks and starts fighting in amongst the enemy in the first episode.) My initial thought was: he would not have been thrown in jail. He would probably have been scourged and beheaded for disobedience (which one roman general did to his own SON for disobeying orders.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:13 PM (csEWM)

268 Sports movies?

DODGEBALL!

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 08:13 PM (U2p+3)

269 Fog / Mist

220 / 221
Posted by: Just a side note

Whatever it takes.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 25, 2021 08:13 PM (mD/uy)

270 I've watched Atomic Blonde a couple of times now.

The acting is pretty good - James McAvoy is his normal entertaining self - and the plot is a little more believable then the average spy flick.
Posted by: Obligatory at September 25, 2021 08:13 PM (DpkTQ)

I think James McAvoy is shorter than Cruise.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:14 PM (2DOZq)

271 Invincible is Mark Walberg movie I couldn't think of

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 08:14 PM (2JoB8)

272 >>>Sports movie?

Hoosiers, Rush, Ford vs Ferrari, Caddyshack, Grand Prix, LeMans.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 08:09 PM (QFVV9)

=======

"Hot Dog...The Movie"

Just kidding. Lots of T and A for 15 year old sneaking into the movie.

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 25, 2021 08:14 PM (8TpiG)

273 Also, Pompey's explanation of what happened at Pharsalus was also pretty spot on. Doh!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:14 PM (csEWM)

274 Hollywood has a lot of problems with the notion that the lead shouldn't be able to do everything.

Yeah. There's a bit in Byrne's run in the Fantastic Four where the Avengers and FF are fighting Galactus and his herald. The scene shifts to Spider-Man and Daredevil talking as they watch and decide they better sit this one out.

Just because you're part of the team doesn't mean you're up to bat every time. She should have been doing other stuff to get them the intel they needed to fight the aliens, not out there scrapping with them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:14 PM (KZzsI)

275 Emily Blunt is a good actress. She made me hate her in Sicarrio.

Del Toro's last line to her is chilling. "You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is a land of wolves now".

Posted by: pep at September 25, 2021 08:15 PM (ZsR3z)

276 rec "Miller's Crossing"...the dialogue, the sets, the costumes, the general atmosphere, it's all affected, overly mannered, and a bit heavy. I know why, I get the point, and I like so much of it. Tommy's up there for my favorite movie character of all time, and there's a ton of great one-liners. But maybe the brothers were just a little too dedicated to the style. They lightened it up, even while still using a lot of the same period costumes and liter'ry dialogue in their next film " Barton Fink".

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:15 PM (V8JPv)

277 @242

RE: Henry Cavill story -

Boy tells his school teacher that his uncle is Superman . Teacher says the kid is wrong. Boy insists. Boy gets in trouble because he keeps insisting that Superman is his uncle. Mom finally gets called to pick boy up from the Principal's office. Mom gets told that this is because her son keeps insisting Superman is his uncle. Mom takes boy home, and calls her brother...

The following day, the boy's uncle, Henry Cavill, walks him to class.

Posted by: junior at September 25, 2021 08:16 PM (SkQiU)

278 Best line ever.

Spy a....i think i love you.

Spy b....that's too bad.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 25, 2021 08:16 PM (T1fV4)

279 Emily Blunt is a good actress. She made me hate her in Sicarrio.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 08:12 PM (5jZ3u)
She plays her perfect in that movie, I don't think you are supposed to like her

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 25, 2021 08:16 PM (dKiJG)

280
I like the show (the guy playing Caesar does pretty well. However, I was taken out early by the one meathead (the guy who breaks ranks and starts fighting in amongst the enemy in the first episode.) My initial thought was: he would not have been thrown in jail. He would probably have been scourged and beheaded for disobedience (which one roman general did to his own SON for disobeying orders.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD


That's Pullo, who is the star of the show.
He lucks into and out of trouble.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 25, 2021 08:16 PM (htiwo)

281 And Warren Miller ski movies.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 08:17 PM (U2p+3)

282 @257...I think the line is "You're a sick fuck, Fink".

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:18 PM (V8JPv)

283 Miller's Crossing is truly excellent and Gabriel Byrne was born to play that role. All the casting is amazing. It reminds me of The Sting with how well paced and deep the movie takes you into the time period (other than Albert Finney's endless drum of .45 rounds).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:18 PM (KZzsI)

284 Sports movies?

DODGEBALL!

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 08:13 PM (U2p+3)

out of Hoosiers, The Natural, and Dodgeball. The only one i own on DVD is Dodgeball.

BTW, The color of Money was a good pastime movie. My top three pastime movies are TCOM, Rounders, and The Flamingo Kid.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:18 PM (IbPe4)

285 Speaking of film and plots, I realized the other day that Vanilla Sky is just a different perspective on Groundhog Day.

[whispers] *Open your eyes*

Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:18 PM (KbLYZ)

286 Patrick, that was my praise of her acting ability.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 08:18 PM (5jZ3u)

287 285 Speaking of film and plots, I realized the other day that Vanilla Sky is just a different perspective on Groundhog Day.

[whispers] *Open your eyes*
Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:18 PM (KbLYZ)

Edge of Tomorrow.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:19 PM (csEWM)

288 That's Pullo, who is the star of the show.
He lucks into and out of trouble.
Posted by: Soothsayer

I love how Caesar lets them off the hook for later off - coz he doesn't want to get on the bad side of those favored by Fortuna.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 25, 2021 08:19 PM (oEn12)

289 The original "Karate Kid" has to be up there.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 08:19 PM (U2p+3)

290 I like Road to Perdition better than Miller's Crossing even if they did miscast Tom Hanks in the role.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:20 PM (2DOZq)

291 All the best exchanges in Barton Fink are between him and the cops.

Detective Deutsch: What else?

Barton: Trying to think. Nothing, really. He... he said he liked Jack Oakie pictures.

Detective Mastrionotti: You know, ordinarily we say anything you might remember could be helpful. But I'll be frank with you, Fink. That is not helpful.

Detective Deutsch: Notice how he's not writing it down?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:20 PM (KZzsI)

292 "There hasn't been a decent musical since Fiddler on the Roof."

I'm afraid I must disagree. Granted, there aren't many musicals made nowadays, but there's been some good ones. Off the top of my head, "Cabaret", which came out a year after "Fiddler", was really good. Likewise, "Chicago". I thought "La-La Land" was pretty good, too: so sue me. I thought "Topsy-Turvy" was terrific; and yes, I think it qualifies as a musical. And based on the trailer, the Spielberg version of "West Side Story" looks promising. So the musical cupboard isn't completely bare.

Posted by: Nemo at September 25, 2021 08:21 PM (S6ArX)

293 I like Road to Perdition better than Miller's Crossing even if they did miscast Tom Hanks in the role.

They went a little overboard on the "low key" storytelling there, it almost put me to sleep. I know everyone always says this and its almost always true, but the book was much better (its part of a trilogy actually, following that family). The ending was much different and better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:21 PM (KZzsI)

294 ||"Hot Dog...The Movie"||

One of my friends played "Dr. Gotbottom" in "Hamburger: The Motion Picture" but I don't think there's a connection.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:22 PM (dhFCT)

295 I don't think you are supposed to like her

I'm not sure what the writer intended. Could be like The Wire, where the writer intended to convey one message, and the audience came away with another altogether.

I think it also depends on where you are politically. Much to my own surprise, I've said goodbye to the rule of law as a virtue. But the me of 20 years ago wouldn't recognize the me of today.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 25, 2021 08:22 PM (QU5/8)

296 I thoroughly have enjoyed TLOTR movies watching them on dvd. I was dragged to them by husband and son and, never having read any of the books, kept asking what was going on, until they told me to keep quiet and they would explain it all. After I received the explanation of the books I enjoyed the movies. They were entertaining and I am not a Tolkein scholar so I just enjoyed the story.

Posted by: megthered at September 25, 2021 08:22 PM (vvWGB)

297 I never saw it, but I thought The Fog was F. Paul Wilson

Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:22 PM (KbLYZ)

298 What the hell, Rich?!? "Dark Star" is the worst? It's brilliant!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 08:01 PM (Dc2NZ)



Damned straight!

"Your turn to feed the alien, Pinback..."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 25, 2021 08:23 PM (ZSK0i)

299 The original "Karate Kid" has to be up there.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 08:19 PM (U2p+3)

there are so many. That movie was huge when it came out. It is funny how movies from 35 years ago still make an impact on society. Same with the music of that time. I don't know if it is because modern stuff doesn't last as long, or if they are just focused on pleasing the people from that era. I go into the grocery store and all the music is from the mid 80s, it is weird in a way.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:23 PM (IbPe4)

300 German cop: "Your friend Mundt, In Salinas. Ear, nose and throat man. Decapitated"

Italian cop: "Doctor heal thyself"

German cop: "Good luck, with no fucking head"

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:23 PM (V8JPv)

301 ||...so sue me...And based on the trailer, the Spielberg version of "West Side Story" looks promising.||

*calls lawyer*

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:23 PM (dhFCT)

302 A new sports movie coming out. Kurt Warner bio-pic by a Christian filmmakers the Erwin Brothers.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 08:24 PM (4thlk)

303 I think it also depends on where you are politically. Much to my own surprise, I've said goodbye to the rule of law as a virtue. But the me of 20 years ago wouldn't recognize the me of today.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 25, 2021 08:22 PM (QU5/

The Rule of Law IS a virtue- as long as it is applied equally and all are the same before it. THAT'S the problem.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:24 PM (csEWM)

304 I loved Hudsucker Proxy as well. And The first Coen Brothers film Blood Simple was an excellent tight noir, ripped from the 50s. With a surprisingly cute Frances McDormand

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:24 PM (KZzsI)

305 Henry Cavill is one of the few Hollywood types that I could probably carry on an interesting (read: very nerdy) conversation with. This also makes him very well suited to understanding roles like Superman and Geralt, since he's into this sort of thing personally and didn't just hear about it the first time when his agent gave him a script.

Posted by: CppThis at September 25, 2021 08:24 PM (UewuT)

306 I didn't like anyone in Sicarrio. Yeah they killed his family but that was partly his fault because that's the life he chose.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:26 PM (2DOZq)

307 Henry Cavill is one of the few Hollywood types that I could probably carry on an interesting (read: very nerdy) conversation with.

He still plays World of Warcraft (probably a Paladin). He is a huge geek.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:26 PM (KZzsI)

308 As for Nic Cage, he really does have some good acting chops but he's one of those guys who will do anything if there's a good paycheck so the quality ratio isn't there. At least the late 90s stuff that put him on the map didn't take itself too seriously.

Posted by: CppThis at September 25, 2021 08:26 PM (UewuT)

309 I never saw it, but I thought The Fog was F. Paul Wilson
Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:22 PM (KbLYZ)


The 1980 version was John Carpenter/Debra Hill. The 2005 version sucked enough that I slowed down just long enough to verify that wasn't Wilson either...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (ZSK0i)

310 He still plays World of Warcraft (probably a Paladin). He is a huge geek.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:26 PM (KZzsI)

I am not sure anyone is playing WoW anymore.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (csEWM)

311 We've lucked out on streaming movies lately.

1) "Love and Monsters" - great comedy with a heart along the lines of "Warm Bodies" and "Zombieland" only with giant mutated insects instead of zombies.

2) "Malignant" - fun Dario Argento-ish 70s-80s style horror, kookoobananas in all the right ways. Try to go in cold.

3) "Wind River" -grim, slowburn thriller about a woman's murder on an Indian Reservation. Who knew Hawkeye could act? Worth watching. You'll be depressed.

4) The November Man - good spy thiller, entertaining and Pierce Brosnon plays his spy character like an old James Bond.

5) "30 Coins" - HBOMAX series about the possible end of the world brought about by collecting all of Judas' 30 pieces of silver for betraying Christ. Never boring, Just wants to make you go "WTF?!?!" a few times per episode and creep you out. Mission accomplished.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (5NkmN)

312 I loved Hudsucker Proxy as well. And The first Coen Brothers film Blood Simple was an excellent tight noir, ripped from the 50s. With a surprisingly cute Frances McDormand

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:24 PM (KZzsI)

Blood Simple was very well made and a bit scary. They set it in a region that is not often portrayed much in major films.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (IbPe4)

313 Bull Durham
Best baseball movie, ever.

Posted by: megthered at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (vvWGB)

314 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: ZOD at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (xK9An)

315 299:I go into the grocery store and all the music is from the mid 80s, it is weird in a way.
Posted by: Quint



A few years ago, I had this ear worm of a song I really liked from the mid 80s. Hadn't heard it in a long while. The Outfield-Your Love. I finally figured out some commercial had used the instrumental parts of the song and it was now stuck in my head. That's fine. Great tune. I eventually bought that Outfield CD. Still play it. No idea what the commercial was selling.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (QFVV9)

316 .I think the line is "You're a sick fuck, Fink".
Posted by: occam's brassiere.

You are right. And for $400. What was the ice cream flavor that Biden slurped before he died from a brain freeze?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (T1fV4)

317 Pride of the Yankees

Posted by: dartist at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (+ya+t)

318 What takes 50 years to get to the top of the Hudsucker Building, and 30 seconds to get to the bottom?

Waring Hudsucker

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:28 PM (V8JPv)

319 Bows, farts...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 25, 2021 08:28 PM (ZSK0i)

320 When is a sidewalk fully clothed?

When it's Waring Hudsucker

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:28 PM (V8JPv)

321 I forgot about my favorite sports movies based on how many times I've watched them,

The Natural
The Cutting Edge
One on One

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:29 PM (2DOZq)

322 Finally, got my "DUNE" 4K today. 3 weeks late.
Zavvi may have lost my business.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 25, 2021 08:29 PM (5NkmN)

323 Got a shower and remembered lots of sports movies, many on football but a favorite would be Slapshot.
Many baseball movies as well

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 08:29 PM (2JoB8)

324 Amtrak train derailed in Joplin, Montana. Happened about 4 p.m. MT.

Posted by: four seasons at September 25, 2021 08:30 PM (oT1NJ)

325 Book ends of weirdness...

This movie and Beat Takahashi's Zatoichi? And then do a mashup.

Idiot son who should be a sumo wrestler that runs around dressed as a samurai meet's Nick Cage's character from this movie who is out to rescue the geisha from Zatoichi who isn't quite telling the truth.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:30 PM (JAANK)

326 One Nick Cage movie that annoys me is Lord of War. Not because of politics, but because the entire movie is supposed to be about how bad arms dealers are and how evil it is to sell weapons of war.

But they never sold their point. Yes, guns can be used for terrible things, but so can knives; just ask the Tutsi tribe in Rwanda. And guns can be used for very noble and heroic purposes. There's literally not one point in this movie where they demonstrated clearly why being an arms dealer is so evil. Its just assumed.

They tried, they put that big montage of building a bullet and shipping it then some little kid gets a gun and tragedy strikes but I mean you could say the same thing for a bottle of bleach or a rope.

It was a failure in its main purpose but praised as this masterpiece. And there's some great stuff in it, but... its core reason for existing was a misfire.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:30 PM (KZzsI)

327 The 1980 version was John Carpenter/Debra Hill. The 2005 version sucked enough that I slowed down just long enough to verify that wasn't Wilson either...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (ZSK0i)


The Keep is what I was thinking.

However, The Tomb would make a good movie.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:31 PM (KbLYZ)

328 But the me of 20 years ago wouldn't recognize the me of today.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

For me, sad and liberating at the same time.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 25, 2021 08:31 PM (mD/uy)

329 || if there's a good paycheck ||

I somehow doubt the paycheck for this film was all that good.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:31 PM (dhFCT)

330 A few years ago, I had this ear worm of a song I really liked from the mid 80s. Hadn't heard it in a long while. The Outfield-Your Love. I finally figured out some commercial had used the instrumental parts of the song and it was now stuck in my head. That's fine. Great tune. I eventually bought that Outfield CD. Still play it. No idea what the commercial was selling.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (QFVV9)

*because I am a masochist for earworms, ques it up in youtube*

Damn. I had forgotten that one. Oddly one of the most memorable openings. Good song.

To share the pain: https://tinyurl.com/htm5cmzw

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:31 PM (csEWM)

331 Ad News Bears is a good baseball movie, the sequels not so much

Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 08:31 PM (2JoB8)

332 Not a spy movie, but if you're looking for one where the female lead thinks rings around everyone else, rips 'em off, and leaves them all in the dust at the end, there's always Body Heat. Ditto the lesser known Last Seduction, with Linda Fiorentino.

Early Jeff Goldblum that I recall being a lot of fun -- the television series Tenspeed & Brownshoe. Done by Stephen Cannell when it seemed like the only television programs on the air were done by Stephen Cannell. Goldblum walked away from a stockbroker gig to take up being a private eye, his head was filled with stories and lunatic quotations from the Mark Savage private eye novels he read endlessly. The thing was funny as hell. I was working at Kroch's & Brentano's in Chicago at the time it aired, and you wouldn't believe how many people came in asking for the Mark Savage books.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 25, 2021 08:31 PM (JzDjf)

333 3) "Wind River" -grim, slowburn thriller about a woman's murder on an Indian Reservation. Who knew Hawkeye could act? Worth watching. You'll be depressed.


I really liked it. Yes, it's sad.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 08:31 PM (QFVV9)

334 Didja know that for all the cultural impact The Jetsons have had on our world, the show only lasted one season?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 25, 2021 08:32 PM (OU+8W)

335 Ah yes The Keep. Got the book. As for the movie, well it has the soundtrack going for it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:32 PM (JAANK)

336 Good baseball movies have to have guys in it that can throw and swing a bat like they've done it before.

Posted by: dartist at September 25, 2021 08:32 PM (+ya+t)

337 Wind River is supposed to be really good yeah

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:32 PM (KZzsI)

338 Henry Cavill was also excellent in "Man From Uncle" Movie which was fun.

But, died a miserable death at the box office.

Poor ole HC just cannot catch a break.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 25, 2021 08:33 PM (5NkmN)

339 Ad News Bears is a good baseball movie, the sequels not so much
Posted by: Skip at September 25, 2021 08:31 PM (2JoB

My favorite 'sports' trivia question

Everyone knows Chico Bail Bonds sponsored the Bears, who sponsored their rival Yankees ?

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:33 PM (2DOZq)

340 And in the 1980's grocery stores played mostly Dionne Warwick or the Carpenters.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 08:33 PM (4thlk)

341 Didja know that for all the cultural impact The Jetsons have had on our world, the show only lasted one season?

Yeah. Meanwhile MASH which was HUGE at the time and had massive cultural impact in the late 70s and early 80s, went 9 seasons and is basically forgotten crap now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:33 PM (KZzsI)

342 I heard this guy threw at his own kid's head in a Father Son Game.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:33 PM (csEWM)

343 338 Henry Cavill was also excellent in "Man From Uncle" Movie which was fun.

But, died a miserable death at the box office.

Poor ole HC just cannot catch a break.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 25, 2021 08:33 PM (5NkmN)

I need to get that one, have only seen bits and pieces.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:34 PM (csEWM)

344 No anime?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 25, 2021 08:34 PM (EZebt)

345 5) "30 Coins" - HBOMAX series about the possible end of the world brought about by collecting all of Judas' 30 pieces of silver for betraying Christ. Never boring, Just wants to make you go "WTF?!?!" a few times per episode and creep you out. Mission accomplished.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 25, 2021 08:27 PM (5NkmN)


I was hoping this was an adaption of the book The Last Coin by James Blaylock, but nope, Spanish.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:34 PM (KbLYZ)

346 Yeah. Meanwhile MASH which was HUGE at the time and had massive cultural impact in the late 70s and early 80s, went 9 seasons and is basically forgotten crap now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:33 PM (KZzsI)

Did you know it was really about Vietnam?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:34 PM (csEWM)

347 Henry Cavill was also excellent in "Man From Uncle" Movie which was fun.

But, died a miserable death at the box office.

Poor ole HC just cannot catch a break.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 25, 2021 08:33 PM (5NkmN)

Very good in The Immortals which also bombed.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:35 PM (2DOZq)

348 @336...Redford looked good in "The Natural" and "Eight Men Out" did a great job with that too. "Major League"'s a farce, so maybe the bar is lower. but I didn't buy its cast as ballplayers. Maybe Berenger, definitely not Snipes and Bernsen. Ruined the movie.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at September 25, 2021 08:35 PM (V8JPv)

349 ||However, The Tomb would make a good movie.||

Well, I don't know which The Tomb you mean, but there was a The Tomb which was Michael Mann's first film. No, wait, that was The Keep.

There was a The Tomb directed by Fred Olen Ray and starring Cameron Mitchell and a in-her-prime Michelle Bauer. That did not make a good movie.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:35 PM (dhFCT)

350 I remember seeing "Racing With the Moon"
When I was a teenager and being heartbroken.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 08:35 PM (U2p+3)

351 344 No anime?
Posted by: San Franpsycho



Cowboy Beebop is one of the greatest TV shows of all time. Seriously. Its anime for people who think anime is kind of weird.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 08:36 PM (QFVV9)

352 I have only seen parts of Man From Uncle but it looked good. Surprisingly so.

How on earth could the Miami Vice movie, made by the creator of the show, be so awful? He got every single part of it wrong.

I get the impression that Michael Mann doesn't see and enjoy what his fans do in his movies. Like he's gotten it all wrong in his head but still managed to pull it off.

Frankenheimer thought he was making a dramatic masterpiece to rival Shakespeare with Die Hard, based on his interviews. Directors seem to miss the boat a lot but get things right by accident.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:36 PM (KZzsI)

353 And in the 1980's grocery stores played mostly Dionne Warwick or the Carpenters.
Posted by: lowandslow
--------

And yet, I still don't know the way to San Jose.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2021 08:36 PM (WD9ZA)

354 And Jeff Goldblum's best part was in "Buckaroo Banzai."

Fight me.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 08:37 PM (U2p+3)

355 Anime that will make you doubt reality and your sanity? Paranoia Agent and Paprika.

Or a scene to make you think it is all a bad LSD trip, the giant animated plushies in Akira.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:37 PM (JAANK)

356 Poor ole HC just cannot catch a break.

I'd say The Witcher has given his career a huge boost. He's so good in it, you have to think of him when you're considering other action roles. James Bond?

Posted by: pep at September 25, 2021 08:37 PM (ZsR3z)

357 Cowboy Beebop is one of the greatest TV shows of all time. Seriously. Its anime for people who think anime is kind of weird.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 08:36 PM (QFVV9)

Anime IS kind of weird. It is just how deep the weirdness goes. Have you seen the ballerina duck thing pixy linked to a while back?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:37 PM (csEWM)

358 Takahashi made an interesting samaria move where a serf was forced to gut himself with only a bamboo knife.

No plot holes.....or very few.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 25, 2021 08:37 PM (T1fV4)

359 Akira is amazing to watch but I understand about 30% of what the hell is going on.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:37 PM (KZzsI)

360 The Gong Show.


What did I win?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 25, 2021 08:38 PM (axyOa)

361 What did I win?

The bag that the Unknown Comic used to wear on his head

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:38 PM (KZzsI)

362 >>350 I remember seeing "Racing With the Moon"
When I was a teenager and being heartbroken.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 25, 2021 08:35 PM (U2p+3)

Elizabeth McGovern, prom date insurance.

Posted by: ZOD at September 25, 2021 08:38 PM (xK9An)

363 Want a real movie about a MASH unit in Korea?

Humphrey Bogart in Battle Circus

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:38 PM (JAANK)

364 I heard the series Death Note was very good.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:39 PM (2DOZq)

365 357 Cowboy Beebop is one of the greatest TV shows of all time. Seriously. Its anime for people who think anime is kind of weird.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 08:36 PM (QFVV9)

Anime IS kind of weird. It is just how deep the weirdness goes. Have you seen the ballerina duck thing pixy linked to a while back?
Posted by: Aetius451AD



Heh! Yes, yes I did. I always watch those anime clips Pixy posts. Some are interesting. Some are WTF did I just watch?

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 08:39 PM (QFVV9)

366 Or a scene to make you think it is all a bad LSD trip, the giant animated plushies in Akira.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:37 PM (JAANK)

I kind of got the impression with Akira that he was trying to control godlike power, but there was a lot of pulsating flesh and blood in the way...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:39 PM (csEWM)

367 Diogenes, an all expense paid trip for two to---Detroit.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 08:40 PM (5jZ3u)

368 ||Directors seem to miss the boat a lot but get things right by accident.||

M. Night Shyamalan

David Lynch, if we accept that "getting things right" has to do with things that are popular that people relate to, that the director has no interest in.

Grand champion, Hall of Famer? Richard Kelly. There is no way Donnie Darko should work, and I am convinced it is a complete accident.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:40 PM (dhFCT)

369 What did I win?

The bag that the Unknown Comic used to wear on his head
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:38 PM (KZzsI)


I knew that.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 25, 2021 08:40 PM (axyOa)

370 Everyone knows Chico Bail Bonds sponsored the Bears, who sponsored their rival Yankees ?
Posted by: Just a side note

Wasn't Chico's motto - "We'll have you out before the soap hits the floor."?


No? Well then it should be.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 25, 2021 08:40 PM (mD/uy)

371 Diogenes, an all expense paid trip for two to---Detroit.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 08:40 PM (5jZ3u)


I withdraw my entry.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 25, 2021 08:41 PM (axyOa)

372 Poor ole HC just cannot catch a break.
___

Yeah, but he will in eternity.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 25, 2021 08:41 PM (PZBsS)

373 Did you know it was really about Vietnam?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:34 PM (csEWM)


It was actually about Alan Alda, in the end.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:41 PM (KbLYZ)

374 I stopped dating for a full year after watching Wicker Man.

Posted by: Cicero, Kaboom! Kid at September 25, 2021 08:41 PM (n/szn)

375 Akira was basically a human turned god that the government managed to control and dissect. But the three wizened munchkins were affected and kept isolated until one escaped and infected Kandeda's friend Tetsuo.

Then Neo-Tokyo went Ah-kaboom!

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:42 PM (JAANK)

376 ||I heard the series Death Note was very good.||

"Death Note" is very good, and very different in its handling of its concept than a Western movie would be. The Japahinos love Sherlock Holmes and that whole western detective tradition, which ends up being the core of that series--blending seamlessly with a mythology about death gods.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:42 PM (dhFCT)

377 Watching a stand up Norm Macdonald did someone recorded on their phone.

People are strange. He is holding his right hand (mic in left) like he is holding a cigarette, but he is not smoking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:42 PM (csEWM)

378 Did you know it was really about Vietnam?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:34 PM (csEWM)

It was actually about Alan Alda, in the end.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:41 PM (KbLYZ)


By then I was rooting for the Norks.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 25, 2021 08:43 PM (axyOa)

379 Cosmic Debri...Zappa.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 25, 2021 08:44 PM (T1fV4)

380 371 Diogenes, an all expense paid trip for two to---Detroit.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 08:40 PM (5jZ3u)


I withdraw my entry.
Posted by: Diogenes



Oh c'mon. You can take a tour of all the places the documentary "Robocop" showed. Here is a happy song for your Detroit trip!

https://youtu.be/eYUbu_EPAwk

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 25, 2021 08:44 PM (QFVV9)

381 Nytal, I'm going to open the first 5 seasons of Twilight Zone and indulge.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2021 08:44 PM (5jZ3u)

382 The Cowboy Bebop movie left me going 'eehhh.' It might have worked as an episode but as a movie?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:44 PM (JAANK)

383 There was a The Tomb directed by Fred Olen Ray and starring Cameron Mitchell and a in-her-prime Michelle Bauer. That did not make a good movie.
Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:35 PM (dhFCT)


The Tomb was written by H. Paul Wilson, and was about a guy named Repairman Jack who was sort of a detective with a reputation, asked to find a strange iron chain that an old Indian woman was mugged for, and which then turned into a cross Manhattan cat and mouse game with demons out of Hindu mythology.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:44 PM (KbLYZ)

384 >>374 I stopped dating for a full year after watching Wicker Man. Posted by: Cicero, Kaboom! Kid at September 25, 2021 08:41 PM (n/szn)

I stopped believing in Britt Ekland after learning that she had a body double shake an ass for her in the inn scene.

Posted by: ZOD at September 25, 2021 08:45 PM (xK9An)

385 Skip the trip, just watch the movie Doctor Detroit

You won't thank me.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:45 PM (JAANK)

386 MASH is back on Cable. It went away for a long time but is back. I remember that show in syndication and with several episodes a day when that wasn't a common thing. That went on for years and years and then they stopped it.

Some other syndication shows from that era were The Odd Couple and Taxi. I haven't seen either of those shows on tv in at least a couple of decades, maybe longer.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:45 PM (IbPe4)

387 MASH? -- Don't recall rooting for the Norks (though I can see how one might...). But looking back on the show, the ones I enjoyed most were the ones with Colonel Flagg.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 25, 2021 08:46 PM (JzDjf)

388 It's tempting to say that Henry Cavill wouldn't need to work again after a couple of big roles, since he doesn't seem to be into drugs or other such bad behavior that movie stars are known for. But I happen to know that he plays tabletop Warhammer 40K so he's gonna need all the money he can get!

Posted by: CppThis at September 25, 2021 08:46 PM (UewuT)

389 t was actually about Alan Alda, in the end.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:41 PM (KbLYZ)

And the hills of So Cal.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:47 PM (IbPe4)

390 388 It's tempting to say that Henry Cavill wouldn't need to work again after a couple of big roles, since he doesn't seem to be into drugs or other such bad behavior that movie stars are known for. But I happen to know that he plays tabletop Warhammer 40K so he's gonna need all the money he can get!
Posted by: CppThis at September 25, 2021 08:46 PM (UewuT)

Yeah, we need to get him a cheaper hobby- like gun collecting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 25, 2021 08:47 PM (csEWM)

391 Posted by: CppThis
___

He's a follower of Christ.

He doesn't have to worry about a thing.

As opposed to those who dismiss Christ.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 25, 2021 08:48 PM (PZBsS)

392 "And we bid a fond adieu to Five O'Clock Charlie."

Amazing how FEAF could never put an F-51D or an F4U over the 4077th at the right time to shoot that plane down.

Talk about bad writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:48 PM (JAANK)

393 True story.
I was commanding a recruiting company near Seattle in MASH's last year. One of the high schools in my area wanted a MASH theme senior party and asked the recruiter if he could help.
We pulled out the stops. Even got a helicopter to fly in with "wounded,". The pilot was drop dead gorgeous. She got out of the chopper with her helmet on, about 500 students and parents there. Then she took her helmet off and did the hair shake thing with her long golden locks.
We had 8 people show up Monday to enlist. Six guys and two girls who wanted to be pilots.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 25, 2021 08:48 PM (axyOa)

394 I be prood to announce thsts if the bill in the Horse passes that we be gots $2 Million dollar four thr Brattleboro FART Tube program. This bill most pass to battle globill warning.

Posted by: Mary Cloginstien from Brattleboro, VT at September 25, 2021 08:48 PM (6QJnV)

395 374 I stopped dating for a full year after watching Wicker Man.
Posted by: Cicero, Kaboom! Kid at September 25, 2021 08:41 PM (n/szn)

----------------------

Christopher Lee or Nic Cage?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 25, 2021 08:49 PM (CAJOC)

396 ||The Tomb was written by H. Paul Wilson, and was about a guy named Repairman Jack who was sort of a detective with a reputation||

Apparently The Keep (which I read...twice, I think?...the second time after seeing the movie and trying to match it up to the book and failing) is in the same series?

I liked the book, anyway.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:49 PM (dhFCT)

397 Who's socking Mary?

Doing a piss-poor job.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 25, 2021 08:49 PM (PZBsS)

398 >>As opposed to those who dismiss Christ.
Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 25, 2021 08:48 PM (PZBsS)

Christ is not dismissed. He is eaten.

Posted by: ZOD at September 25, 2021 08:49 PM (xK9An)

399 A Walk Among the Tombstones was a pretty good movie.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 25, 2021 08:50 PM (2DOZq)

400 Taxi is pretty smart and holds up well, I haven't seen the Odd Couple forever but I doubt it does. MASH definitely doesn't.

It had three phases really.
The first phase was the Gavin MacLeod/Trapper John era, which was pretty fun.
Then came the Potter/BJ Hunnicutt era, which was okay, but often weak and too earnest.
Then it became the Hawkeye Pierce show which was tedious and awful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:50 PM (KZzsI)

401 ZOD,

You are so, so wrong.

But then again, those who don't believe in Jesus usually are.

But God bless you in any case.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 25, 2021 08:51 PM (PZBsS)

402 Nicholas Cage's demise in the Wicker Man is good fun.

Posted by: ZOD at September 25, 2021 08:51 PM (xK9An)

403 You write a whole post on Nicholas Cage's recent filmography and don't mention Color Out of Space? Shame!

Posted by: Jim S. at September 25, 2021 08:51 PM (ynUnH)

404 Apparently The Keep (which I read...twice, I think?...the second time after seeing the movie and trying to match it up to the book and failing) is in the same series?

I liked the book, anyway.
Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:49 PM (dhFCT)


I remember "The Keep" as a fascinating failure. I wish they'd give it a good blu-ray or play it on netflix or wherever cuz I'd like to see it again.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 25, 2021 08:51 PM (5NkmN)

405 You write a whole post on Nicholas Cage's recent filmography and don't mention Color Out of Space? Shame!

Blame the Purple Drank... oh wait that wasn't Purple Drank? Uh oh.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:52 PM (JAANK)

406 The Cowboy Bebop movie left me going 'eehhh.'

The fight scene at the end was great, though. Best I've ever seen in an animated film

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:52 PM (KZzsI)

407 Well another good movie thread moviegique.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2021 08:52 PM (4thlk)

408 ||I stopped believing in Britt Ekland after learning that she had a body double shake an ass for her in the inn scene.||

The irony being that for the past 30-40 years, guys have been asking her to sign pictures of the other girl's ass.

||The first phase was the Gavin MacLeod/Trapper John era||

McClean Stevenson?

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:53 PM (dhFCT)

409 The Keep is a fascinating movie. It's an interesting book, though less fascinating than the movie.

Yes, I've seen and read both.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 25, 2021 08:53 PM (OU+8W)

410 movieguique, it is the same universe, fighting the Opponent. The Still Air has a similar element in it and goes back to those odd crosses, but is also tied in with psychics and a children snuff ring.

Wilson's plots are not straight forward, and always touch on stuff that would make Alex Jones think for a bit

Posted by: Kindltot at September 25, 2021 08:53 PM (KbLYZ)

411 400, You meant Mclean Stevenson but yeah. I heard Stevenson left because he saw Hawkeye was becoming the focus. And he did that early on. Most think he made a mistake there.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:54 PM (IbPe4)

412 Three great recent movies from Sexy Cat Nic Cage: Mandy, the Colour Out of Space, and Pig.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 25, 2021 08:54 PM (Dc2NZ)

413 McClean Stevenson?

Whatever, some guy with an Mc in his name.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:54 PM (KZzsI)

414 Michael Mann's version of The Keep is far too long on atmospherics and too short on dramatic tension.

The story has one of the best opening lines ever, "something is killing my men." And Mann just blows it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:54 PM (JAANK)

415 ||You write a whole post on Nicholas Cage's recent filmography and don't mention Color Out of Space? Shame!||

No...no, this was just about "Prisoners of the Ghostland". I covered more of his oeuvre in the LAST review, "Pig". And even more in the previous review for "Color Out Of Space" and the one before that about "Mandy".

OK, officially going on a Cage-vacation.

||Well another good movie thread moviegique.

Thanks, Low!

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:55 PM (dhFCT)

416 *Sigh* I suspect The Keep will be made into a movie by that boring Arrival, Blade Runner sequel, Dune guy, and everyone will be OMG FINALLY IT BROKE NEW GROUND.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 25, 2021 08:56 PM (OU+8W)

417 >>409 The Keep is a fascinating movie. It's an interesting book, though less fascinating than the movie. Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 25, 2021 08:53 PM (OU+8W)

Watched Das Boot recently, remember watching The Keep when it came out, thought I ought to give it a second watch. I remember that it was good.

Posted by: ZOD at September 25, 2021 08:56 PM (xK9An)

418 ||Wilson's plots are not straight forward, and always touch on stuff that would make Alex Jones think for a bit||

I'll check him out.

Posted by: moviegique at September 25, 2021 08:56 PM (dhFCT)

419 The Cowboy Bebop movie left me going 'eehhh.'

The fight scene at the end was great, though. Best I've ever seen in an animated film
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:52 PM (KZzsI)


Opening tune "Ask DNA" is a neo-soul blast. One of my faves.

Another great Yoko Kanno song. Played/sung by The Seatbelts.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 25, 2021 08:56 PM (5NkmN)

420 May have to watch a couple of these. I'm sick of bland.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 25, 2021 08:56 PM (ORYzU)

421 A Walk Among the Tombstones was very nicely done. Kinda preferred the way Lawrence Block ended the novel to the movie's ending, but if you're paying Liam Neeson the big bucks you'll use him at the finish. Had hoped there would be more adaptations of the Matt Scudder novels after Tombstones, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Unfortunately.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 25, 2021 08:56 PM (JzDjf)

422 Saw a trailer for the new Dune and we have I guess Chani saying how beautiful Arrakis can be.

I went WTF?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 08:58 PM (JAANK)

423 Cowboy Beebop had a bunch of great music in it, surprising for an Anime, but the guys behind it deliberately were trying to do something different and more grown up, hipper, and more appealing to a broader audience.

I mean you still have some of the tropes like the little kid and the over the top reaction shots but mostly they did something new, at the time at least.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 08:58 PM (KZzsI)

424 Michael Mann wanted to make a three hour Keep movie.

The thing is, you cannot maintain horror/dread over three hours. It just becomes tiresome after a while.

But whatever. The Dune guy will make it and it will BREAK NEW GROUND!!!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 25, 2021 08:58 PM (OU+8W)

425 Everybody F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 ...

Posted by: mindful webworker - with everybody else at September 25, 2021 08:58 PM (Oy+M5)

426
ONT is nood

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 25, 2021 08:58 PM (DUIap)

427 Kinda preferred the way Lawrence Block ended the novel to the movie's ending, but if you're paying Liam Neeson the big bucks you'll use him at the finish.

Lawrence Block was a hell of a writer, best to let him handle the story side of things.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2021 09:00 PM (KZzsI)

428 Three hours of horror and dread?

Either you start laughing like the Joker or you run screaming from the theater.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 09:00 PM (JAANK)

429 Bringing Out the Dead is quintessential Cage.

Posted by: davidt at September 25, 2021 09:01 PM (VFYBy)

430 The Keep had the one scene that was the best scene ever in a horror movie.

It's after Molesaar killed the Nazi rapists and was taking the girl back to her father (Magneto).

The music, the visuals, the effects, everything in that scene was way beyond beautiful.

Plus, he killed rapists.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 25, 2021 09:01 PM (OU+8W)

431 @428 My point. It just becomes tiresome. Horror is built up of moments, not long stretches.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 25, 2021 09:03 PM (OU+8W)

432 The Devil can do good when it suits his purpose.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2021 09:03 PM (JAANK)

433 @432 Exactly. This may have to be continued on the ONT.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 25, 2021 09:05 PM (OU+8W)

434 386
Some other syndication shows from that era were The Odd Couple and Taxi. I haven't seen either of those shows on tv in at least a couple of decades, maybe longer.

Posted by: Quint at September 25, 2021 08:45 PM (IbPe4)


"Taxi" is on one of the cable channels here at night, some time after 10:00PM. I haven't rewatched any episodes, but have seen it in the guide.

Posted by: a.moron at September 25, 2021 09:07 PM (I5FZ1)

435 >>> 122 Worse film seen lately: American Assassin.

The main Mitch Rapp character is miscast. And a waste of Michael Keaton.

I think it's the divergent main actor, he's a soft soy boy trying to be a tough guy. The stories in the books are great. Maybe make Mitch Rapp, Michelle Rapp.
Posted by: mot at September 25, 2021 07:35 PM (n9pm0)

Have you seen the preview for the new Dune? Was Paul Atridies (sp) really such a twink in the book?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 25, 2021 09:10 PM (ACi07)

436 427 "Best to let [Lawrence Block] handle the story side"

No argument from me on that at all. Block's ending was preferable from where I sit. But the ending Scott Frank used for the film was not unsatisfactory; faithful enough in spirit if not in the particulars. If he'd done more Scudder adaptations with Neeson, I'd have been one of the first in line to see them.

Bests.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 25, 2021 09:10 PM (JzDjf)

437 I have given up on watching Nicholas Cage movies.

He must hire the Bialystock & Bloom consortium to pick scripts, because his movies just seem lame.

Posted by: Billypaintbrush at September 26, 2021 07:56 AM (XZ6dz)

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