Quick Hits: Steven King Sucks Edition

Thinking about attending the September 18th rally?

Be careful. There is wide suspicion that the entire "rally" is just a trap set up by Your Fascist Pals at the FBI.

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Someone I thought might be a fed showed up yesterday to make an oblique, ungrammatical suggestion that someone connected to Russiagate should not be alive.

I wonder if that was one of the Deep Staters assigned to surveil all dissent of Biden:

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Honest leftwinger Michael Tracey wants to know where the ACLU is today.


Michael Tracey
@mtracey

Looking forward to 700 tweets about Trans stuff today from the nation's premier civil liberties organization. Other issues less relevant. When I first joined, I did so because I loved the idea of George Bush unilaterally coercing me into submitting to an injection I did not want.

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Instapundit re-linked this prophecy from August 31st: with the regime humiliated by Afghanistan, they'd go looking for an enemy they could beat up on.

Such as the American public:


MartyrMade
@martyrmade

The period after the Afghanistan debacle subsides will be very dangerous. The humiliated regime will be looking to reassert itself, and since it lacks the credibility to act abroad, they’ll look closer to home - like the guy who gets punked at work going home to beat his wife.

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Flashback to July 31st, when the Great Restorer of Our Precious Norms vowed to us there would be no vaccine mandates, and no mask mandates either.

The culture of truth is back, baby!

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Biden wanders off while his nurse/wife blathers:

DeSantis blasts Biden:



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Steven King puts as much thought and work into his tweets as he does into his novels.

Sorry, I know he has fans, but he sucks. He's a bad writer and his "work" is plainly just off-the-cuff first draft crapola. It is not just pure chance that he cannot end any of his books. Thinking of an ending would require, well, thinking, and he just doesn't have time for that.

This podcast about the truly terrible Steven King bomb "Dreamcatcher" rips his "clickety-clack" style of writing, in which he only tries to keep the typewriter making noise.

Here's what's really happening in Florida: After rising in August, as they did throughout the country, hospitalizations are now plummeting:

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Someone pointed out that it is no accident that Biden chooses now, the moment at which Delta is already receding as a threat, in the usual rise-and-fall cycle of persistent respiratory illnesses, to reveal his plan to "stop Delta," knowing the media will credit him with stopping the illness that was already stopping itself.

Flashback: Two weeks ago, Anthony Fauci declared it was time for employers to fire anyone who isn't vaccinated: "The time has come, enough has enough."

He says he "respects people's freedoms" until such time as they become inconvenient. Also known as "not respecting people's freedoms."


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1 I'll get em

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 04:42 PM (2JoB8)

2 Afternoon all.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 04:42 PM (mD/uy)

3 If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace.

We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at September 10, 2021 04:43 PM (hQVBP)

4 Hiya!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 10, 2021 04:43 PM (wAnMi)

5 Good Skip, I'm too tired to walk down there.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 04:43 PM (mD/uy)

6 "Someone I thought might be a fed showed up yesterday to make an oblique, ungrammatical suggestion that someone connected to Russiagate should not be alive."


Joke, or are you being serious ace? It is getting REALLY hard to differentiate the two.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 04:43 PM (z4k8L)

7 STEPHEN

KING'S

THE BLAND

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 10, 2021 04:44 PM (/hXfz)

8 C'mon man! There's sniffen to be done. Look at all those's kids' hair.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 10, 2021 04:44 PM (Yh0oe)

9 Someone I thought might be a fed showed up yesterday to make an oblique, ungrammatical suggestion that someone connected to Russiagate should not be alive.

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Posted by: runner at September 10, 2021 04:44 PM (V13WU)

10 I did like Salems Lot and some others.

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 04:45 PM (uUDKV)

11 "Thinking about attending the September 18th rally?

Be careful. There is wide suspicion that the entire "rally" is just a trap set up by Your Fascist Pals at the FBI."

Agreed. But it is a Just Cause. For the past 8 months I have been thinking we need some way to let these people know we have not forgotten them. They are not alone. I keep thinking we should do something.

Note Bob: I am not talking about violent measures.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 04:45 PM (z4k8L)

12 King's earlier stuff is awesome

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:45 PM (AwPyG)

13 Sam Adam's opponents were of higher quality than our opponents.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 10, 2021 04:45 PM (/hXfz)

14 "Fck you"

1) She seems nice
2) She wishes

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 10, 2021 04:46 PM (ACi07)

15 Looking forward to 700 tweets about Trans stuff today from the nation's premier civil liberties organization.
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Dude dig the hook out of your cheek.

"It says 'Civil Liberties' in the name!" -- Someone with a theory about lies that didn't pan out.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 04:46 PM (XHhHI)

16 In California, I am getting unsolicited texts asking why I haven't turned in my ballot yet.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:47 PM (AwPyG)

17 Sam Adam's opponents were of higher quality than our opponents.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 10, 2021 04:45 PM (/hXfz)
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They wouldn't have caught Covid, as sophisticated as they were.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 04:47 PM (XHhHI)

18 USSS's, FIBs and DHS's set up a task force ehh?
But...but...Bob from NS and A said it was cool!!??

Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2021 04:47 PM (axyOa)

19 King's work has sucked big balls ever since The Shining.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 04:47 PM (hQVBP)

20 If you wonder how well Biden's speech went over with the left yesterday, the New York Times just committed a random act of journalism and reported on a story that said Biden's drone strike the other day actually killed an aid worker and 9 other people including kids.

Apparently the New York Times reporters saw security camera footage and interviewed witnesses who were there.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (O5atO)

21 1990's: 1,000,000 acres of rain forest being clear cut everyday.

2020's: 1,000 people a day dying from Covid.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (wUHYj)

22 Instapundit re-linked this prophecy from August 31st:
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*wrapping barbed-wire around a pineapple*

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (XHhHI)

23 >>> 11
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Note Bob: I am not talking about violent measures.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 04:45 PM (z4k8L)

*holds up Form 322*

Look, Bob, it says right here: "talking about violent measures"!!!

Posted by: Top Men and Whammen at the Eff.Bee.EYE at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (ACi07)

24 Biden wanders away again. Good Lord what a fucking embarrassment.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (HOSkN)

25 Instapundit re-linked this prophecy from August 31st:
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*wrapping barbed-wire around a pineapple*
Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (XHhHI)
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Whoops, I misread that as Allahpundit. I like Glenn.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (XHhHI)

26 19 King's work has sucked big balls ever since The Shining.
Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 04:47 PM (hQVBP)

Let's be honest: King has always sucked. Marzipan horror. Good ideas (possibly, thinking of the Shining, It the Stand) and executed horrifically. He was saved by Kubrick on the Shining.

Teenage gang bangs anyone? He is a piece of shit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 04:49 PM (z4k8L)

27 "Fuck you" she explained.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 10, 2021 04:49 PM (AiZBA)

28 I liked Dreamcatcher. It had alien worms that violently exploded out of your butt.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 10, 2021 04:49 PM (Y5qcH)

29 Make sure to look around for the videos from college football this weekend, showing the crowds yelling "F*uck Biden" It will warm the cockles of your heart.

Clay Travis will post them on Outkick, for sure. Or @claytravis (you don't have to sign up to see)

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:49 PM (AwPyG)

30 I hadn’t even heard of the September 18 rally until people (here, I think) started reposting government preparations for it a few days ago. Has it really been well known?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 10, 2021 04:49 PM (CX3cf)

31 Yes. Steven King sucks. Good writer, can't do endings to save his life though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 04:49 PM (XvPQV)

32 *holds up Form 322*

Look, Bob, it says right here: "talking about violent measures"!!!
Posted by: Top Men and Whammen at the Eff.Bee.EYE at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (ACi07)

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 04:49 PM (z4k8L)

33 How come everyone is wearing a mask but DOCTOR Jill?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 04:50 PM (KZzsI)

34 I think I will have a nice long distance, non stalking non communicative crush on Governor De Santis.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 10, 2021 04:50 PM (TRBes)

35 I've had the misfortune of reading King's writing efforts. It's all bad.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 10, 2021 04:50 PM (Yh0oe)

36 >>> 20 If you wonder how well Biden's speech went over with the left yesterday, the New York Times just committed a random act of journalism and reported on a story that said Biden's drone strike the other day actually killed an aid worker and 9 other people including kids.

Apparently the New York Times reporters saw security camera footage and interviewed witnesses who were there.
Posted by: Azathoth at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (O5atO)

That just means they're Ready! for commie-la (and Hillary! , not to mention DOCTOR Jill, will be pissed).

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 10, 2021 04:50 PM (ACi07)

37 I liked Stephen King's first novels but then they got longer and suckier. I swore he got paid by the word.

Posted by: abbynormal at September 10, 2021 04:50 PM (Xpj5t)

38 *holds up Form 322*

Look, Bob, it says right here: "talking about violent measures"!!!
Posted by: Top Men and Whammen at the Eff.Bee.EYE at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (ACi07)


That's your handwriting, and it's in glitter pen.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 10, 2021 04:50 PM (ghoDT)

39 Didn't the FBI say that the Proud Boys had already gotten the permits and the Proud Boys were saying "everyone stay away, we have nothing to do with any of this"?

(Yes, I know the leaders of the Proud Boys and other groups are all FBI informants/employees)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 10, 2021 04:50 PM (9ULwW)

40 Do you folks remember how Inspector Rinaldo Pazzi was punished in Hannibal ? no reason...

Posted by: runner at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (V13WU)

41 Some of King's earlier stuff is good, despite flawed execution. But here's the tell on the quality overall: they can't really seem to make a good movie based on books.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (QU5/8)

42 Dean Koontz: "Here's an entertaining spooky story that runs about 300 pages"

Stephen King: "Robert decided to buy wheat bread this time rather than the white bread his wife prefers. Here's 12 and a half pages why..."

Posted by: Azathoth at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (O5atO)

43 Biden wanted to do the draconian COVID speech earlier to better match the seasonal peak, but events, dear boy, events (like botching an evacuation and murdering Afghan children in a drone strike) got in the way.

And then it seems he (they) finally rushed it out on a Thursday early evening because the NYTimes told them they were going to publish definitive proof that Biden's drone strike that "killed two ISIS planners" actually killed an innocent family and not it turns out any ISIS planners.

Posted by: Match Checksout at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (dYe5S)

44 30 I hadn't even heard of the September 18 rally until people (here, I think) started reposting government preparations for it a few days ago. Has it really been well known?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 10, 2021 04:49 PM (CX3cf)

Same for me. I was getting more and more pissed that no one was discussing them (the political prisoners/hostages.) Then all of a sudden this popped up. Smells strange.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (z4k8L)

45 The Stand is a good book to read--very pertinent, nowadays.

I may not like his attitude, but King can write a good story

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (AwPyG)

46 The best stuff I've ready by King were his Bachmann books he wrote under a pseudonym. They were shorter and more clearly written. But I have always thought he was enormously overrated.

I think Clancy is too, though. He needs to cut back about half his subplots and three quarters of his characters. The earliest books were leaner and to the point and they just got bigger and more rococo and pointlessly complicated every novel as he went along. If it takes 50-100 pages to finally get into a book and enjoy it... it needs editing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (KZzsI)

47 King has written some good stuff, but he's also coasted on his reputation and and name a lot.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 10, 2021 04:52 PM (Y5qcH)

48 Let's be honest: King has always sucked.

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To be fair, some movie adaptions were really good, since the filmmakers there had the artistic license to cleanup King's diuretic horseslop he called novels. The Mist is one recent example I can think of.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 04:52 PM (hQVBP)

49 41 Some of King's earlier stuff is good, despite flawed execution. But here's the tell on the quality overall: they can't really seem to make a good movie based on books.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (QU5/

In general or his in particular?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 04:52 PM (z4k8L)

50 Biden wanders away again. Good Lord what a fucking embarrassment.
Posted by: Jewells45

If anyone had any question about his mental state, even after all the years of bidenisms, sucking jill's finger should have told them all they needed to know.

But still, they believe. They want to believe. They HAVE to believe.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 04:52 PM (mD/uy)

51 >>> 28 I liked Dreamcatcher. It had alien worms that violently exploded out of your butt.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 10, 2021 04:49 PM (Y5qcH)

Really??

Posted by: Shep! at September 10, 2021 04:52 PM (ACi07)

52 I wonder if this task force will be as good as the one directing the NEO out of kabul?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2021 04:52 PM (axyOa)

53 @44

Yeah. Glowies.

Like that Babylon Bee lego meme, with the protester holding a sign that says "definitely NOT the FBI"

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:52 PM (AwPyG)

54 Isn't King a latent pedo ?

Posted by: runner at September 10, 2021 04:52 PM (V13WU)

55 If it takes 50-100 pages to finally get into a book and enjoy it... it needs editing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (KZzsI)

Tom Clancy is dead. He can't make any edits.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 10, 2021 04:52 PM (Y5qcH)

56 The actual number was 9
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What's a couple orders of magnitude between people who hate each other?

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (XHhHI)

57 Alex Jones spittin' fire on Friday Night Tights. I can't believe I find myself agreeing with him in 2021. What a timeline.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (DXFDM)

58 Stepinfetchit King is another liberal yankee do gooder who needs to fuck off and mind his own business.

But he can't. He sold lots of crappy books to bored folks, made a lot of dough so he thinks he's special.

The blind bastard can go eat a big bag of dicks.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (R/m4+)

59 >>>I liked Dreamcatcher. It had alien worms that violently exploded out of your butt.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 10, 2021 04:49 PM (Y5qcH)

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So, King eats at a Taco Bell, and boom! Instant story line?

Posted by: I don't like my nic at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (Ohyfs)

60 The Shining's a pretty good movie

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (AwPyG)

61 I have never read a Stephen King novel and I have no plans to do so.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (45fpk)

62 I think Clancy is too, though.

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Yeah I tried to give Clancy a go, but the first novel I picked up went 100+ pages that did little more than explain what the Federal Reserve did.

I know some exposition is needed at times but holy crap.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (hQVBP)

63 Tom Clancy is dead. He can't make any edits.

Nor, apparently did he want to. That's why professional authors have editors that help them trim and make a better book.

Which he didn't use.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (KZzsI)

64 Someone I thought might be a fed showed up yesterday to make an oblique, ungrammatical suggestion that someone connected to Russiagate should not be alive.

I wonder that a lot when I see concern trolls or just odd suggestions out of the blue here. Hard to believe just a year ago I would have laughed something like this off. But now? I have little doubt that vast sums of our own fucking money are being spent to surveil even the lowliest of conservative blogs and chat spaces and social media groups. This place would be a natch.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (wAnMi)

65 Tom Clancy is dead. He can't make any edits.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Writing for the choir invisible?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 04:54 PM (mD/uy)

66 King was persistent and lucky. He had, arguably, two good books, Salem's Lot and Carrie. He has been coasting on that, pumping out nihilistic rubbish ever since.

But I'd trade places with him in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2021 04:54 PM (2JVJo)

67 41 Some of King's earlier stuff is good, despite flawed execution. But here's the tell on the quality overall: they can't really seem to make a good movie based on books.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (QU5/

Lots of reasons for that, mostly due to screenwriters not being good at their job.

Christine is good, I'll argue Firestarter too. Carrie and The Shining are amazing, though there are deviations from the novels. Dead Zone, Stand By Me are good to great. I like Needful Things and The Shawshank Redemption.

Not a bad list

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 04:54 PM (XvPQV)

68 I think Clancy is too, though

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I thought Tom Clancy was pretty good back when he was actually writing his own books. Eight to ten books, maybe. Anything after 15 or so years ago is pretty bad. I get it, and I'd do it, too, if I could hire a dozen people to churn out boilerplate and make me another $50M, but it's still crap.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 10, 2021 04:54 PM (9ULwW)

69 12 King's earlier stuff is awesome
Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:45 PM (AwPyG)

Agree. Misery is a treatise on the feminist movement.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 10, 2021 04:54 PM (Fs5vw)

70 Read a lot of King's book in HS. Man, what a miserable prick he is!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2021 04:54 PM (+Rh4C)

71 Listening to Trump on Gateway, and he is far too happy with the vaxx. Keeps talking about the great job they did with the vaxx. And how people should take it, but have freedom if they don't want to. Okay. Quit talking about the VAXX and talk more about FREEDOM.

Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (L3Rsz)

72 60 The Shining's a pretty good movie
Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (AwPyG)

And yet has very little to do with "the Shining" that the little boy had. All he does in the movie is call the caretaker to get killed.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (Y5qcH)

73 If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace.

We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at September 10, 2021 04:43 PM (hQVBP)

Careful there or the National Archives staff will put a trigger warning on your words like they tried to so with the Constitution and Declaration of Independence earlier this week.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (UAr4S)

74 Isn't King a latent pedo ?

Well one assumes so since he's a famous leftist, but there are some scenes in his books (like the end of It) that sure make one wonder.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (KZzsI)

75 Remember when JR Rowling made a fuss about Trump insulting the handicapped boy? And everyone came down on her like a ton of bricks.

They never seem to learn--although maybe she has; I think she's come out lately against the forced vaccines.

Maybe people who want to sell books should read the room a little better

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (AwPyG)

76 I denied Discordia and regret nothing; I have spat into the bodiless eyes of the Crimson King and rejoice; I threw my lot with the gunslinger and the White and never once questioned the choice.

Posted by: John Cullum at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (CX3cf)

77 Stepinfetchit King is another liberal yankee do gooder who needs to fuck off and mind his own business.

But he can't. He sold lots of crappy books to bored folks, made a lot of dough so he thinks he's special.

The blind bastard can go eat a big bag of dicks.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

For a moment there I thought you were heaping scorn on Garrison Keillor.

What a limpdicked douchbag.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (mD/uy)

78 Seems kind of obvious to me that if the FBI et al. were all ready to find violent extremists, that that was the purpose of the speech. And the purpose of the fence going back up around the Capitol.

So Biden is "smoking them out".

Posted by: pj at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (G1dq6)

79 Now Tom Clancy...he does intertwined narratives very well, as good if not better than George R. R. Martin.

He gets very technical but that is a plus for some readers and a minus for others, like gun porn in books.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (XvPQV)

80 >>>I think Clancy is too, though. He needs to cut back about half his subplots and three quarters of his characters. The earliest books were leaner and to the point and they just got bigger and more rococo and pointlessly complicated every novel as he went along. If it takes 50-100 pages to finally get into a book and enjoy it... it needs editing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 04:51 PM (KZzsI)

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I really liked Red Storm Rising. But I have a bad memory. I really needed a quick index to refer to for all the characters.

Posted by: I don't like my nic at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (Ohyfs)

81 The Shining's a pretty good movie
Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (AwPyG)


King has some interesting ideas, I'll give him that. Writing? He should have just hired somebody. Then again, apparently most people can't tell. Kubrick definitely got the best out of that book (one of the ONLY King books I've managed to slog through).

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 10, 2021 04:56 PM (wAnMi)

82 Well one assumes so since he's a famous leftist, but there are some scenes in his books (like the end of It) that sure make one wonder.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (KZzsI)
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A graphic scene in Tommyknockers, too.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 04:56 PM (XHhHI)

83 37 I liked Stephen King's first novels but then they got longer and suckier. I swore he got paid by the word.
Posted by: abbynormal at September 10, 2021 04:50 PM (Xpj5t)

I fell into that trap when the longer version of The Stand was released in the mid (or late?) 90's. I still liked the book, but as Ace said, King cannot write an ending to save his life. Although "The Circle Closes" was good enough for me.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 10, 2021 04:56 PM (5aFbR)

84 Listening to Trump on Gateway, and he is far too happy with the vaxx. Keeps talking about the great job they did with the vaxx. And how people should take it, but have freedom if they don't want to. Okay. Quit talking about the VAXX and talk more about FREEDOM.
Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (L3Rsz)


I think he has a hard time getting off the most important topic to him. Hisself.

Posted by: runner at September 10, 2021 04:56 PM (V13WU)

85 > King's earlier stuff is awesome

Christine is pretty obviously King's wish fulfillment fantasy about killing all of the cool kids who didn't treat him well.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 10, 2021 04:56 PM (UW2ZS)

86 Only Stephen King book I've read is Running Man.

I figured though he didn't know how to end his books after tangentially seeing IT and the surprise ending is that it's a giant psychic spider?

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 04:56 PM (2DOZq)

87 I denied Discordia and regret nothing;
Posted by: John Cullum at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (CX3cf)


Eris is gonna be pissed.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 10, 2021 04:56 PM (ghoDT)

88 So Biden is "smoking them out".
Posted by: pj at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (G1dq6)
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He's smoking something.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 04:56 PM (XHhHI)

89 I wonder that a lot when I see concern trolls or just odd suggestions out of the blue here. Hard to believe just a year ago I would have laughed something like this off. But now?
Posted by: clutch cargo

The biggest tell is they never mention bewbies.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 04:57 PM (mD/uy)

90 Alex Jones spittin' fire on Friday Night Tights. I can't believe I find myself agreeing with him in 2021. What a timeline.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen

I know. I watch him and think....I think he's right. How did it come to this?

Alex Jones is like this carnival barker, who has actually read a lot of the New World Order stuff, from the Democrats and the foundations, Davos, etc.
So when he talks about what he has read, it sounds so ridiculous. And then....it starts to come true.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at September 10, 2021 04:57 PM (vcOmj)

91
Sorry, I know he has fans, but he sucks. He's a bad writer and his "work" is plainly just off-the-cuff first draft crapola. It is not just pure chance that he cannot end any of his books. Thinking of an ending would require, well, thinking, and he just doesn't have time for that.


He can always use his standard go-to ending where the big bad is a space alien. He's only used it a gazillion times.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2021 04:57 PM (n+4am)

92 It's too bad King doesn't get the hatred he deserves for the child orgy he put into the end of It.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 10, 2021 04:57 PM (UW2ZS)

93 Joe wandered off far enough for the shock collar to go off

Posted by: Bruce at September 10, 2021 04:57 PM (vd8XM)

94
Is biden your doctor?

biden isn't my doctor.

Is biden your doctor?

Is biden a doctor?

Then why is biden giving Medical Orders to anyfuckingone??

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2021 04:57 PM (ejyaU)

95 I think he has a hard time getting off the most important topic to him. Hisself.
Posted by: runner

I am afraid so. And at this moment in our country's history, it's very jarring.

Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 04:57 PM (L3Rsz)

96 >> If it takes 50-100 pages to finally get into a book and enjoy it... it needs editing.


*cough*

Posted by: Neal Stephenso at September 10, 2021 04:57 PM (+Rh4C)

97 Stephen King: Getting the Bland Back Together!

Posted by: Kindltot at September 10, 2021 04:58 PM (HG00O)

98
Ace, that Spiderman meme is great. And I remember that episode.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2021 04:58 PM (ejyaU)

99 I liked Stephen King's first novels but then they got longer and suckier. I swore he got paid by the word.

He suffered the curse of all successful writers -- editors afraid to tell him "no."

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2021 04:58 PM (nfrXX)

100 Was King always a hysterical little bitch or was that after he got run over by the van. Kinda like treacher's aftermath.

Posted by: nckate at September 10, 2021 04:58 PM (QxvkR)

101 Most every King story I can think of includes childhood bullies

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 04:58 PM (uUDKV)

102 Anyone know where I can get chest rig with 7.62 molle pouches?

Posted by: Archer at September 10, 2021 04:58 PM (gmo/4)

103 There is an almost 100% phenomenon where if a writer gets too famous and rich too fast, they don't mature as a writer, and decide they know best, so nobody can question or edit their genius work (see also Quentin Tarantino).

And for many authors, their books get longer and longer every book, particularly in a series. Harry Potter varies, but they books tend to get longer. The Sword of Truth series starts with a tight book and each sequel was like 10% longer.

I don't like books so big you can press live birds in them. I don't want a doorstop or dictionary, I want a story.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 04:59 PM (KZzsI)

104 Only Stephen King book I ever read is The Stand. All I heard from people is how great it was. I thought it was just meh. Not horrible, but I wouldn't recommend it or read it again.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 10, 2021 04:59 PM (xPl2J)

105 I remember giving my ol man Hunt For Red October. I told him if the submarine shit was half as good as.the intelligence shit, he was going to love the book. I didnt see him for three days.

Clancy's later stuff was meh. I had discovered WEB Griffin by then. Far superior.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2021 04:59 PM (axyOa)

106 Ace...King wrote several good vacation books about 40 years ago. So to be fair, he hasn't been a hack for his entire career...just most of it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2021 04:59 PM (Q9lwr)

107 There's a thing called "author intrusion" where the reader can suddenly see the author behind the story, because the author can't resist talking about political views, or explaining how to make candles in fine detail, because that's her personal hobby.

Clancy was famous for author intrusion. It doesn't matter whether it's important to the story that the reader understand how the Federal Reserve works; Clancy does, and he's gonna tell you.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 04:59 PM (AwPyG)

108 I think Clancy is too, needs editing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Yup reading Debt of Honor right now. I think of the people on this site, and chuckle, whenever Tom starts some multi paragraph explanation of X or Y.
Still, I appreciate that the guy did research/knows his stuff. And, and, In Debt of Honor the Japanese initiate a military attack and a simultaneous financial system attack. Later writers, I read the books, just stole that financial idea and just fleshed it out a bit. I know not much is original, but nothing they should be proud of either.

Posted by: MikeM at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (6WyvU)

109 Is biden a doctor?
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2021 04:57 PM (ejyaU)


That's "Frau Doktor Profesorin Jill Biden, MD, PhD, DVM, OBE". And yes. She is like a doctor, only better in every way.

Posted by: Jill Biden at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (ghoDT)

110 Listening to Trump on Gateway, and he is far too happy with the vaxx.

***********

I'll always be a big fan of Trump but his tone deafness here is alarming. A premature release of a potentially dangerous and experimental "vaccine" is not exactly something he should be braying about.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (hQVBP)

111 But he can't. He sold lots of crappy books to bored folks, made a lot of dough so he thinks he's special.
The blind bastard can go eat a big bag of dicks.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy


My ex SiL was a massive King fan, took a day off and went to SF for a book signing of his most recent more of the same wastes of paper. I can't for the life of me remember what specifically went down, but King was apparently being a mammoth douche, and having great fun embarrassing and humiliating people trying to get sigs. He did something awful to her, I was slack jawed. And she made excuses for the asshole. IIRC she didn't even wind up getting his autograph on that $20 piece of shit. But lefties gonna stick up for lefties.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (wAnMi)

112 I think he has a hard time getting off the most important topic to him. Hisself.
Posted by: runner

I am afraid so. And at this moment in our country's history, it's very jarring.
Posted by: lizabth

You wonder about...won't get fooled again.

Trump may be in on all of this, and was just playing a part. Or, maybe just being super - paranoid.

The Meat Lab does that to you.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (vcOmj)

113 102 Anyone know where I can get chest rig with 7.62 molle pouches?
Posted by: Archer at September 10, 2021 04:58 PM (gmo/4)

TacticalTailor

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (XvPQV)

114 No one should show up for a rally in DC. Let them have their damn fence and Nat Guard protection all setup for nobody but a bunch of FBI agents and stooges.

Posted by: f'd at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (Tnijr)

115 Clancy's later stuff was meh.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2021 04:59 PM (axyOa)

Agreed. "Red Storm Rising" was a fun read, but that's because of the topic, not the writing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (Q9lwr)

116 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (XvPQV)

Thanks!!

Posted by: Archer at September 10, 2021 05:01 PM (gmo/4)

117 @11

>>Note Bob: I am not talking about violent measures.

Just a tip:

Nothing the NSA records is taken as humor or someone blowing off steam.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2021 05:01 PM (bnkLv)

118 @100

You know, that's a good point--about the near-death experience

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:01 PM (AwPyG)

119 "Complete the sequence, Mr. President."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 10, 2021 05:01 PM (vuisn)

120 Anyone know where I can get chest rig with 7.62 molle pouches?
Posted by: Archer at September 10, 2021 04:58 PM (gmo/4)


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Posted by: hogmartin at September 10, 2021 05:01 PM (ghoDT)

121 Jill Biden looks like Mrs. Potato head with toothpick legs. That woman is unattractive.

Posted by: Capital Eff at September 10, 2021 05:02 PM (dynG0)

122
Got the lawn mowed this afternoon after scrubbing down the kennel this morning. I hurt. Have a pinched nerve in my neck and my right shoulder is pretty painful.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2021 05:02 PM (/U27+)

123 I know. I watch him and think....I think he's right. How did it come to this?

****************

Me in 2011: Alex Jones is one bugboinks insane conspiracy nutter lunatic.

Me in 2021: WTF Alex Jones was right???

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:02 PM (hQVBP)

124 104 Only Stephen King book I ever read is The Stand. All I heard from people is how great it was. I thought it was just meh. Not horrible, but I wouldn't recommend it or read it again.
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 10, 2021 04:59 PM (xPl2J)

Maybe this is a stupid thought of mine (and I got plenty), but you know of that phenomena where people think movies are "better" than they really are, like with what happened to The Last Jedi, because they're making better movies in their mind? Perhaps that can also occur with books, especially with The Stand since the setting occurs all over the US and 99.4% of the people are dead?

Posted by: Thrawn at September 10, 2021 05:02 PM (5aFbR)

125 >Listening to Trump on Gateway, and he is far too happy with the vaxx. Keeps talking about the great job they did with the vaxx. And how people should take it, but have freedom if they don't want to. Okay. Quit talking about the VAXX and talk more about FREEDOM.
Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 04:55 PM (L3Rsz)

Yeah, I've voiced my strong displeasure with him regarding this topic and a lot of people get butthurt about critiquing Trump from the right.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 10, 2021 05:02 PM (DXFDM)

126 Kind of odd the left didn't decide to play up the side effects, the rushed clearance of the vaccines as a club against Trump. Had he somehow one I suspect that would be what they would be doing right now. Okay

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 05:02 PM (uUDKV)

127 I read every Clancy book up to... Rainbow Six, although I skipped a couple of his Jack Ryan books as they were too thick and lost me when I tried. Rainbow Six and Without Remorse are pretty tight books, although R6 could have been trimmed a bit.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (KZzsI)

128 I'd endorse Clancy's output from 'The Hunt for Red October' on up to 'Debt of Honor'. Stop there. After that, not sure if Tom is actually doing the writing anymore.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (XvPQV)

129 >>They never seem to learn--although maybe she has; I think she's come out lately against the forced vaccines.


Rowling has been a raging Lefty on twitter for years.
HOWEVER, she has taken a stand against transgender activists' goals (putting bio men in womens spaces) and for that they want her dead. I doubt she's stopped being a Lefty, but she's getting a huge dose of being the online mob hmost atrd person, something in which she's particpated for years.

Posted by: Neal Stephenso at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (+Rh4C)

130 @111

I got a book signed by George RR Martin, and we were told not to talk to him, and not to ask for any personalized dedications.

No photos.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (AwPyG)

131 Anyone know where I can get chest rig with 7.62 molle pouches?


FED! FED! FED!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (axyOa)

132
Nor, apparently did he want to. That's why professional authors have editors that help them trim and make a better book.
Which he didn't use.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (KZzsI)


Editors are bored, boring and timid. When a writer is the big seller like Clancy no one wants to joggle an elbow and make the money go away.
If someone gets the urge to try to make any edits the writer either says goodbye or "first you will blow me" and has enough pull to make it happen.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (HG00O)

133 @117: "Nothing the NSA records is taken as humor or someone blowing off steam."

Generally speaking, most feds follow the "never make bomb jokes while in line at the airport" model of threat assessment.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (+WWsf)

134 We need a 28th amendment to the Constitution
Any pandemic decree by the government bureaucracy negates the previous 27 amendments

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (2JoB8)

135 Or, maybe just being super - paranoid.

The Meat Lab does that to you.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (vcOmj)


I find it comforting.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (ghoDT)

136
King is a typist, not a writer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (/U27+)

137 My wife related to me what she heard from "Peppermint Patty" (Jenn Hacki) that the Biden administration just assumed that we would all take the vax *because* Trump took the vax.

So what do these smartest kids in class do when their prediction so does not turn out? Do they assess how they possibly could have been wrong?

Apparently, not.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (XHhHI)

138 The author that is the easiest for me to read is Steven Pressfield though unfortunately looks like he's gone Woke also based on his second to last novel, 36 Righteous Men.

He also writes instruction / advice books for wannabe authors.

One is called Nobody Wants to Read Your Shit. (Why is that and what you can do about it)

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (2DOZq)

139 I fell into that trap when the longer version of The Stand was released in the mid (or late?) 90's.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 10, 2021 04:56 PM (5aFbR)


I think it was late 80's/very early 90's ('90 or '91). One of my aunts gave it to me as a gift when I was in the hospital, and that was before I was married.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (Ez6QX)

140 110 Listening to Trump on Gateway, and he is far too happy with the vaxx.


Clue: He was in on it.

Posted by: Capital Eff at September 10, 2021 05:03 PM (dynG0)

141 I'll always be a big fan of Trump but his tone deafness here is alarming. A premature release of a potentially dangerous and experimental "vaccine" is not exactly something he should be braying about.
Posted by: The Maskless Ranger

Totally agree. It's very odd. I turned it off, but when I was listening, it was as though he hadn't a care in the world and everything was peachy-keen. I thought he'd hammer joe's mandate right off the bat.

Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (L3Rsz)

142 How many of King's books have seriously nasty, bigoted "Christians?" Carrie, Under the Dome, The Mist, Shawshank Redemption, what else? I'm sure I'm missing plenty.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (UW2ZS)

143 Most every King story I can think of includes childhood bullies
Posted by: steevy

If only he ate Apple Jacks as a kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXsLeFWCsLU

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (vcOmj)

144 Christine is good, I'll argue Firestarter too. Carrie and The Shining are amazing, though there are deviations from the novels. Dead Zone, Stand By Me are good to great. I like Needful Things and The Shawshank Redemption.

I find Christine and Carrie boring. Like Cujo.

Never saw Firestarter.

The Dead Zone is okay. It's made-for-tv quality.

The Shining is Kubrick riffing on King's ideas, not adapting his book. Not altogether dissimilar from 2001 in that respect. (Humorously, King hates it.)

Stand By Me was based off a short story. So not really a novel adaptation. Do they have a lot in common? (I confess I don't understand it's popularity.

I'm similarly ignorant of the source material for Shawshank, though that is a good movie.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (QU5/8)

145
I think Clancy is too, needs editing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor



And that was long before he started farming out the writing on his books. I think it was after Without Remorse where he just gave up on writing anything more than outlines for his ghost writers to flesh out.

Still had some good ideas, and great scenes which were both awesome and corny at the same time.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (n+4am)

146 I]@130: "I got a book signed by George RR Martin, and we were told not to talk to him, and not to ask for any personalized dedications. No photos."

Do not look him in the eye!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (+WWsf)

147 A funny thing about Stephen King: his short fiction is better than his longer novels. Most of his short stories are nasty, cruel and evil...which is fine for Horror. Most of them have clear endings too, even if most of those are due to the death or damnation of the protagonist. (again, horror)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (XvPQV)

148 I got a book signed by George RR Martin, and we were told not to talk to him, and not to ask for any personalized dedications.


**

I'm told there was a time when famous people appreciated the people who made them famous.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (9ULwW)

149 Don't underestimate Jill. She is a poisonous, power hungry snake.

Posted by: runner at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (V13WU)

150 I got a book signed by George RR Martin, and we were told not to talk to him, and not to ask for any personalized dedications.

Unless you're a 13 year old girl, then you can snuggle right up to uncle meat.

I was enjoying Pressfield right up to his Amazons book and it was... terrible. Absolutely trash, embarrassingly bad. Bad writing, bad plotting, bad characters, ludicrous and amateurish. Like his 12 year old son wrote it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (KZzsI)

151
Alex Jones says they refer to all of us as "useless eaters."

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (ejyaU)

152 King writes good characters. Then forgets to write a plot for them.

His best works are ones he cowrote. He can make an interesting person for someone else to build a world for.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (oSy3T)

153 I'll always be a big fan of Trump but his tone deafness here is alarming. A premature release of a potentially dangerous and experimental "vaccine" is not exactly something he should be braying about.
Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (hQVBP)


I think that's a real weakness, probably in part due to his germ-o-phobia. I get it, I'm a bit obsessive myself. But I don't see much difference between a dirty counter top and sticking shit in my body that's 100% untried and unproven.

I'm sure he's proud he got it pushed through, but also not necessarily understanding all the machinations behind it. Will he feel the same when he finds out that they planned this out long before he was even in office? Tout the vax for those who want it, sure. But also suggest Americans should be free to try alternative treatments, such as the one that's been around for a quarter century and won a Nobel for efficacy and saving possibly millions.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (wAnMi)

154 Rowling has been a raging Lefty on twitter for years.

************

I hate Rowling for foisting Harry Potter on us, but I have to admit C.B. Strike show based off her novels are pretty good (haven't read the novels).

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (hQVBP)

155 >Alex Jones is like this carnival barker, who has actually read a lot of the New World Order stuff, from the Democrats and the foundations, Davos, etc.
So when he talks about what he has read, it sounds so ridiculous. And then....it starts to come true.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at September 10, 2021 04:57 PM (vcOmj)

I've known about him since just before 9/11, so I'm quite aware of the arc of his career. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills that all of his big theses are coming true. Mix that with the recent Archbishop Vigano stuff, and hoo boy...

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (DXFDM)

156 @147

I agree, especially lately. I wonder if he's decided it's easier to come up with horror ideas if they are in a shorter format? You'd think that would be the case

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (AwPyG)

157 142 How many of King's books have seriously nasty, bigoted "Christians?" Carrie, Under the Dome, The Mist, Shawshank Redemption, what else? I'm sure I'm missing plenty.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (UW2ZS)

Jeez, all of them, basically. Which makes The Stand so odd where Christians are the good guys and God himself intervenes at the end.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (XvPQV)

158 gigphlob snooglip weertglig noomph

Posted by: raimondo at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (5dOKH)

159 142 Which is why it is surprising that the Father Callaghan character in Salems Lot is so sympathetic. Although he does fail. Somebody should do a sequel about what happens to him when Barlow is destroyed and he is fred...

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (uUDKV)

160 Dead Zone was good because of Cronenberg, not King.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (vuisn)

161 Stephen King is to books as Matt Damon is to movies.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (9ULwW)

162 Stephen King...most of his stuff always feels like "I'm a Boomer, and boomer stuff is endlessly fascinating, and we were so great, and then everything went wrong, and it wasn't our fault, it was Bad Guys who weren't leftists". And although I am absolutely tail end boomer (everybody's older brother actually lived it, we just had to play with the leftovers) and don't mind boomer stuff it gets old. The weird book is The Stand, which is inherently Christians good, Satanists bad, which is decidedly not a Leftist Pop Boomer theme and not what the rest of his stuff goes like.

Posted by: Azjaeger at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (3/XaG)

163 I went to a book signing with my wife. It was Mike Lupica, who is a raging lefty. But to his credit he was polite, took everyone's questions seriously, stayed longer than was scheduled, and seemed like a good guy. And he gave me an intelligent answer to my question, which I was not expecting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (Q9lwr)

164 This Clancy critique business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to make it to the next thread.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (M8fZu)

165
I hate Rowling for foisting Harry Potter on us, but I have to admit C.B. Strike show based off her novels are pretty good (haven't read the novels).
Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (hQVBP)

C.B.Strike novels are excellent.

Posted by: IC at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (hV9ir)

166 Rowling has been a raging Lefty on twitter for years.

Which is very odd, because in her Potter books it is VERY obvious that she has a pretty Christian, conservative worldview in the books. I think the interaction she had with Hollywood broke her.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (KZzsI)

167 57 Alex Jones spittin' fire on Friday Night Tights. I can't believe I find myself agreeing with him in 2021. What a timeline.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 10, 2021 04:53 PM (DXFDM)

HE was the big guest they teased for Friday Night Tights!?! Gonna have to watch when I get home. Damn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (z4k8L)

168 They will come for you too retardo. Pucker up your asshole.

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (uUDKV)

169 @154

I dunno, I think she deserves a lot of credit because a lot of kids were suddenly interested in reading.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (AwPyG)

170 I like that the left is fine acknowledging that it's "pay backs"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (9ULwW)

171 100 Was King always a hysterical little bitch or was that after he got run over by the van. Kinda like treacher's aftermath.

***

It certainly didn't help. To be honest, he hasn't been worth a damn since he stopped doing coke. And the fact he's been storytelling by checkbox for years long before the SJW crowd showed up. It's not a Stephen King story unless you have some whack-job Christian fundamentalist character in it. And there has to be an abusive father somewhere in it too.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (O5atO)

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Posted by: bonhomme at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (UW2ZS)

173 I'm similarly ignorant of the source material for Shawshank, though that is a good movie.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (QU5/


I think I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't like Shawshank.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (Ez6QX)

174 I was hoping that Trump bragging about the vaccines being released when he was Pres would make the Left tell everyone not to take them. (like they did when he was still in office)

But I guess having power over the people is more enticing. And they can always ignore Trump's role. Until it becomes too obvious that the vaccines are much more dangerous than the virus.

Posted by: abbynormal at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (Xpj5t)

175 I was enjoying Pressfield right up to his Amazons book and it was... terrible. Absolutely trash, embarrassingly bad. Bad writing, bad plotting, bad characters, ludicrous and amateurish. Like his 12 year old son wrote it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (KZzsI)

Pressfield pledged allegiance to the Democrats. He's dead to me, Marine or not.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:08 PM (XvPQV)

176 Talking about authors...

I met Lois McMaster Bujold years ago at an SF Con (like 35 years ago). She was really quite friendly and talkative, and kind of nerdy attractive. Her then-husband was there too, and he was kind of a big nerdy guy too.

She hasn't aged well. She now looks like someone's old maiden aunt from the '50's. And I think her husband - then is long gone.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at September 10, 2021 05:08 PM (vcOmj)

177 Most every King story I can think of includes childhood bullies
Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 04:58 PM


Ah, yes. The Stephen King drinking game. Drink when:
Bullies
Christian Fundamentalist
Maine location
Character is an author
References another book

That said, he was great early, good up to Needful Things and unreadable after that. Could never stick an ending.

Posted by: Chuck C at September 10, 2021 05:08 PM (EughT)

178 By contrast, a friend got one of Robert Jordan's books signed for me (RIP, this was about 20 years ago.) He was evidently friendly, gracious and kind.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 05:08 PM (z4k8L)

179 The Dead Zone is okay. It's made-for-tv quality.

********

I thought the movie sucked balls but the TV show was awesome, only made awesomer when compared and contrasted with the woke crap of today.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:09 PM (hQVBP)

180 >>> 151
Alex Jones says they refer to all of us as "useless eaters."
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (ejyaU)

Is that wrong? No one told me that was wrong...

Posted by: Bill Gates at September 10, 2021 05:09 PM (ACi07)

181 Thinking about attending the September 18th rally?

Isn't it called the "Justice for J6" rally? Who does "Justice for so-and-so" rallies? It ain't us.

Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2021 05:09 PM (z36Kd)

182 Dead Zone was good because of Cronenberg, not King.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (vuisn)

Don't know about the book but it's my favorite movie based on a King novel.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:09 PM (2DOZq)

183 Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:00 PM (hQVBP)

it's great for the vaxx to be available, but the universal vaccination campaign a mistake, and the mandates unjustified and ill-advised. The dismissal of naturally acquired immunity is bizarre. The push for mandates is a trailer for the dystopian horrorshow predicting the kind of control the government wants over every aspect of our lives.

Posted by: SarahW at September 10, 2021 05:09 PM (g1vnC)

184 Anyone see the Langoliers TV movie? Its shockingly awful

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (KZzsI)

185 99.74% survivability rate.

"Public Health Crisis!!!"

Motherfuckers.

Meanwhile, the right has been so incompetent that they can't make the scientific case that masks do nothing to prevent spread of COVID; that masks are harmful to children; that children are practically immune from SARS-CoV-2/COVID; and that the "COVID vaccine" is not actually a vaccine, since it does not provide immunization from disease to the "vaccinated".

Wearing a mask on one's face to prevent SARS-CoV-2 spread is as effective as wearing tinfoil on one's head to prevent aliens from reading one's brain.

We have known this since FEB 2020. Yet, here we are 17 months later with the commonly accepted "science" among the world population is that not only do masks work, but children should wear them.

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (Do5/p)

186 Never made it through Shawshank. Not even half.

Posted by: klaftern at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (r4sI4)

187 "Dreamcatcher" read like Stephen King thought about stuff fans had said they liked in his other books, and then thought, "Now, all I need is a story."

It's a greatest hits collection(except no underage tween gangbang) tied to his near-autobiographical experiences after eating at Chipotle.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (5NkmN)

188
For a moment there I thought you were heaping scorn on Garrison Keillor.

What a limpdicked douchbag.
Posted by: Tonypete at

I hope you're using AND when thinking about King and Keillor.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (f0hb9)

189 Alex Jones says they refer to all of us as "useless eaters."

**

While ignoring that there literally are useless eaters.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (9ULwW)

190 Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:09 PM (hQVBPM

Heh. It's what makes the world go 'round. I loved it.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (2DOZq)

191 Me in 2021: WTF Alex Jones was right???
Posted by: The Maskless Ranger
Yup. I met a friend of a friend in NY City, probably 6-7 years ago? Nice guy, one of the things he said is that 9/11 was an inside job. I just laughed, and enjoyed my couple drinks. I always think about that guy these days.

Posted by: MikeM at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (6WyvU)

192 I think I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't like Shawshank.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (Ez6QX)

*fistbump* I hate prison movies about as much as I hate mob stories. Caged Heat included. Make mine busty and free women please.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (z4k8L)

193
A funny thing about Stephen King: his short fiction is better than his longer novels. Most of his short stories are nasty, cruel and evil...which is fine for Horror. Most of them have clear endings too, even if most of those are due to the death or damnation of the protagonist. (again, horror)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (XvPQV)



Yep, although a lot of the earliest (and best) short fiction is essentially just Lovecraft updated to 20th century prose.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (n+4am)

194 I was enjoying Pressfield right up to his Amazons book and it was... terrible. Absolutely trash, embarrassingly bad. Bad writing, bad plotting, bad characters, ludicrous and amateurish. Like his 12 year old son wrote it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (KZzsI)

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You make it sound like a Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (MVjcR)

195 @164: "It was Mike Lupica, who is a raging lefty."

His pro-vaccine rants on Sports Reporters podcasts are almost unbearable. Mitch Album does his best to rein in the emotional invectives, but whenever he's gone, and it's just Lupica and Bob Ryan, then things tend to veer into "everyone is so fucking stupid" territory.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 10, 2021 05:10 PM (+WWsf)

196 Ain't nobody can whistle through his nose directly into the microphone like Garrison Keilor.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 10, 2021 05:11 PM (9ULwW)

197 Was King always a hysterical little bitch or was that after he got run over by the van.

****

I'm sorry, I promise I'll do better next time.

Posted by: The Van at September 10, 2021 05:11 PM (hQVBP)

198 Don't know about the book but it's my favorite movie based on a King novel.

I really enjoyed Thinner. Its like long-form Twilight Zone episode, with Joe Mantenga as a gangster and pretty good effects.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:11 PM (KZzsI)

199 I got a book signed by George RR Martin, and we were told not to talk to him, and not to ask for any personalized dedications.

That may just be about moving the line. I was at a George Takai signing years ago. His politics and online persona notwithstanding, he'd have talked to fans all day but for his handlers, and the wait was really, really long because his handler could not wrangle him.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 10, 2021 05:11 PM (QU5/8)

200 If Trump wants to go down with the clot shot ship...well, bye...

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 10, 2021 05:11 PM (DXFDM)

201 @132

If anyone reads Elizabeth George, there's an example of a good writer who goes on and on for pages, and obviously couldn't care less what her editor tells her.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:11 PM (AwPyG)

202 Keillor was a vastly superior writer to King, at least in his early stuff, imo. Lake Woebegone is a wonderful book.

Posted by: lizabtha at September 10, 2021 05:11 PM (L3Rsz)

203 I find King to be rather Christian in theme, and symbol. I find that he seems to separate the spiritual side from its sometimes austere and formal wrapper.

So, I do not find King to be anti-Christian, I almost expect that he is some kind of Christian of sorts.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (XHhHI)

204 On the September 18th rally.

Matt Braeynard has been planning it for about 2 months now.

The reason you haven't heard about it is because people don't want you to hear about it.

I commented that it was happening when he announced it back in early August.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (5p7BC)

205 >>I'm similarly ignorant of the source material for Shawshank, though that is a good movie.

It was in one of his short story collections -- but the story is about 100 pages. Same with The Mist (which has nasty Christians, so add that to the list).

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (+Rh4C)

206 I met Lois McMaster Bujold years ago at an SF Con (like 35 years ago). She was really quite friendly and talkative, and kind of nerdy attractive. Her then-husband was there too, and he was kind of a big nerdy guy too.

She hasn't aged well. She now looks like someone's old maiden aunt from the '50's. And I think her husband - then is long gone.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at September 10, 2021 05:08 PM (vcOmj)

I got to meet her, and talk with her over dinner, in Seattle at one of her release events! She's very much a quiet housewife type, damn good writer....right up until she decided to desecrate the memory of her characters. Left of Center but less of a bitch about it than Mary Robinette Kowal...who I've also dined with, less enjoyably.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (XvPQV)

207 When I see Governor DeSantis murdering 1200 people a day I ask "What's happened to the Republican Party?" Why don't we listen to the experts anymore?

#Trump'sFault

Posted by: Paul Mirengoff at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (O6Y19)

208 The only Steven King I've ever read was The Green Mile which was released as a novella series.

Probably his best and most coherent book(s) although it was a bit on the nose, the protagonist is a Christ figure named John Coffey, get it?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (bnkLv)

209 9/11 wasn't an inside job but that it succeeded as well as it did with such terrible opec by those that carried it out was a huge indictment of our intel and LE agencies....for which they were rewarded with more money and more power. Thanks GW!

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (uUDKV)

210 >>> 181 Thinking about attending the September 18th rally?

Isn't it called the "Justice for J6" rally? Who does "Justice for so-and-so" rallies? It ain't us.
Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2021 05:09 PM (z36Kd)

Not to mention cutesy rhymes and/or acronyms. Who's calling it "J6"?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (ACi07)

Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (L3Rsz)

212 *looks at last post picture*

*starts singing "Theeere goes my heeero...."*

Posted by: pookysgirl, Foo Fighters semi-fan at September 10, 2021 05:13 PM (XKZwp)

213 @199

I've mentioned before that Takei was the voice for the villain in Bubble Guppies' "Space Guppies."

His name was Major Bummer. Even if you don't have little kids, it's worth watching--lots of references to star trek.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:13 PM (AwPyG)

214 >>If anyone reads Elizabeth George, there's an example of a good writer who goes on and on for pages, and obviously couldn't care less what her editor tells her.



Word.

Posted by: Ayn Rand at September 10, 2021 05:13 PM (+Rh4C)

215 I got a book signed by George RR Martin, and we were told not to talk to him, and not to ask for any personalized dedications. Unless you're a 13 year old girl, then you can snuggle right up to uncle meat.

That's kind of funny, because I know when we used to do signings with Artists like Chuck Jones, we (and LJE) made sure that it WAS dedicated. Why? Because most people will buy an animation cell or drawing on eBay that says "Chuck M. Jones" on it. They WON'T buy one that says "To Thomas L., Chuck M. Jones".

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 10, 2021 05:13 PM (wAnMi)

216 I blanked out.

Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 05:13 PM (L3Rsz)

217 I'm sure he's proud he got it pushed through, but also not necessarily understanding all the machinations behind it.

**********************

That's my issue with him, and my mom even wrote to him angry over how he was emphasizing the vax and not addressing the reality that the left is now using it as a tool of rampant fascism.

Posted by: The Van at September 10, 2021 05:13 PM (hQVBP)

218 Peaceful revolt speech is our specialty:

Hey, the situation is really bad. Someone should do something.

Yes, someone should. I, for one, will vigorously give the TV a piece of my mind tonight and every night to come until something is done.

Agreed, gentlement, and I shall pen a missive to my representative, telling him how bad it is, and demanding change. If he does not respond appropriately, I shall be very vexed.

Let us peacefully revolt against the government by paying our taxes and following the laws.
But with a surly attitude.

Yes, let's.

Posted by: JB at September 10, 2021 05:13 PM (TO8Xm)

219 >HE was the big guest they teased for Friday Night Tights!?! Gonna have to watch when I get home. Damn.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (z4k8L)

Do it

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 10, 2021 05:13 PM (DXFDM)

220 I think I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't like Shawshank.

Oh goodness it's one of my favorites.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 10, 2021 05:13 PM (HOSkN)

221 I find King to be rather Christian in theme, and symbol. I find that he seems to separate the spiritual side from its sometimes austere and formal wrapper.

So, I do not find King to be anti-Christian, I almost expect that he is some kind of Christian of sorts.
Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (XHhHI)

He was raised Christian and rebelled against it. So he has a common cultural understanding of Christianity.

If you don't find his books to be anti-Christian...I don't know what to tell you...it's not subtle. Religious characters in his books are always evil...except in The Stand and maybe Salem's Lot.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (XvPQV)

222 Keillor was a vastly superior writer to King, at least in his early stuff, imo. Lake Woebegone is a wonderful book.

Agreed. And his radio stuff was funny and enjoyable up until the 2000 election broke him. Then he became just another bitter old leftie.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (nfrXX)

223 I always like Maximum Overdrive, which is almost universally panned.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (xPl2J)

224 I think I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't like Shawshank.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (Ez6QX)
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I think of myself as rare, simply because I don't think Shawshank is the best movie ever.

I happen to like it and think it's a pretty decent movie, though.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (XHhHI)

225 If anyone reads Elizabeth George, there's an example of a good writer who goes on and on for pages, and obviously couldn't care less what her editor tells her.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:11 PM (AwPyG)


I've enjoyed all her books but one. "What Came Before" I think it's called. Or something similar.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (45fpk)

226 181 Thinking about attending the September 18th rally?

Isn't it called the "Justice for J6" rally? Who does "Justice for so-and-so" rallies? It ain't us.
Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2021 05:09 PM (z36Kd)


My thinking too. Be ready for pre-rehearsed MAGA-hat wearing theater portraying Trump supporters as rioting retards.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (Fs5vw)

227 This Clancy critique business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to make it to the next thread.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM


Clancy jumped the shark with Rainbow Six. Not because of the plot but because of this scene (spoilers)
Ex-KGB, now head of org's security is talking to another member of the org. The other member reveals the whole plan to ex-KGB who had no idea. ex-KGB says "Interesting plan! Say, is that a new gun that you have? Mind if I take a look?"
"Sure." (hands over gun)
"Thanks." Bang (shoots the idiot).

Posted by: Chuck C at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (EughT)

228 Regarding the Biden clip, that's the most lucid thing he's done since the inauguration.

Posted by: Anotheranon at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (8Ze5j)

229 @209

Don't' look now, but a lot of the heavy hitters on gab were posting a meme called "choose your favorite false flag", and one of the choices was 9/11

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (AwPyG)

230 was enjoying Pressfield right up to his Amazons book and it was... terrible. Absolutely trash, embarrassingly bad. Bad writing, bad plotting, bad characters, ludicrous and amateurish. Like his 12 year old son wrote it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:05 PM (KZzsI)

You've missed out on a number of good books. Incidentally Amazons is the only book I didn't read. Subject matter didn't interest me.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:15 PM (2DOZq)

231 George RR Martins hatred of religion is more obvious than Stephen Kings

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 05:15 PM (uUDKV)

232 Could never stick an ending.
Posted by: Chuck C at September 10, 2021 05:08 PM


No matter. 9.5

Posted by: East German Judge at September 10, 2021 05:15 PM (a3Q+t)

233 Sept 18 sounds like fun! Should I dress like a viking, or should I try to climb through a pre-broken window? Are the cops going to let us into wherever we're supposed to go?

Posted by: Late is not necessarily better at September 10, 2021 05:15 PM (ugR9R)

234 Thank you everyone who answered my question on chest rigs and molle pouches in 7.62.

Posted by: Archer at September 10, 2021 05:15 PM (gmo/4)

235 Friday book club?
I need to get a new book, trip tomorrow hopefully

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:15 PM (2JoB8)

236 Fuck lake wobegon, et al. Circa 1999 minnesota public radio invaded REAL, DIVERSE, LOCAL radio on a Pasadena station to replace it with endless lake shitbegone reruns. FUCK THEM.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at September 10, 2021 05:16 PM (n365n)

237 Agreed. And his radio stuff was funny and enjoyable up until the 2000 election broke him. Then he became just another bitter old leftie.
Posted by: Oddbob

Oh yes! Prairie Home Companion was delectable in the early years. Side-splittingly funny. And charming. Keillor really took a sad turn as he aged.

Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 05:16 PM (L3Rsz)

238 9/11 wasn't an inside job

*************

I never believed it was an inside job until Bush went full retard attacking Trump. Now I could believe he melted the steel himself.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:16 PM (hQVBP)

239 Maximum Overdrive is just Killdozer with trucks

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 05:16 PM (uUDKV)

240 think I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't like Shawshank.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (Ez6QX)

It's just okay to me. I think I've only seen it 1 and 1/2 times.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:16 PM (2DOZq)

241 Religious characters in his books are always evil...except in The Stand and maybe Salem's Lot.

And The Gunslinger. John Cullum is a priest, as I recall, and a hero.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 10, 2021 05:16 PM (CX3cf)

242 Posted by: Jewells45 at September 10, 2021 05:13 PM (HOSkN)

Never got your contact email...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 10, 2021 05:16 PM (f0hb9)

243 >>> >>> 157 142 How many of King's books have seriously nasty, bigoted "Christians?" Carrie, Under the Dome, The Mist, Shawshank Redemption, what else? I'm sure I'm missing plenty.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 10, 2021 05:04 PM (UW2ZS)

Jeez, all of them, basically. Which makes The Stand so odd where Christians are the good guys and God himself intervenes at the end.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (XvPQV)

>>> 162
.....
The weird book is The Stand, which is inherently Christians good, Satanists bad, which is decidedly not a Leftist Pop Boomer theme and not what the rest of his stuff goes like.
Posted by: Azjaeger at September 10, 2021 05:06 PM (3/XaG)

Hmm, now I'm curious and would read The Stand to see if he's pretending to be positive but is really negative, except I don't fell like pissing that much time away on another un-edited book.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 10, 2021 05:17 PM (ACi07)

244 King's best books?

The Shining
Pet Semetary
Cujo

IT had some good stuff, but the whole last quarter or so was A+ Prime crapola.

He has some good short stories.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2021 05:17 PM (5NkmN)

245 @236, well, for us, it was local.

Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 05:17 PM (L3Rsz)

246 That may just be about moving the line. I was at a George Takai signing years ago. His politics and online persona notwithstanding, he'd have talked to fans all day but for his handlers, and the wait was really, really long because his handler could not wrangle him.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 10, 2021 05:11 PM (QU5/

He was at GenCon in 1992. He's amazingly dumb. Like, as dumb as AIDS Moby on Red Letter Media. Just clueless, doubt he's gotten smarter since then.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:17 PM (XvPQV)

247 I think I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't like Shawshank.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (Ez6QX)

No, you're not. I hated it too.

Posted by: Archer at September 10, 2021 05:17 PM (gmo/4)

248 I like Conn Iggulen's books better than Pressfield. His short series books on great figures of the past (and often awful ones) examining who the were and how they got that way are terrific.

He even makes sense of the Wars of the Roses (although admittedly he had to trim or merge a lot of minor characters)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:18 PM (KZzsI)

249 Never got your contact email...

Well shoot, I guess that's why I never heard back from you! Can you just email me instead? It's just my nic at yahoo dot com.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 10, 2021 05:18 PM (HOSkN)

250 Hmm, now I'm curious and would read The Stand to see if he's pretending to be positive but is really negative, except I don't fell like pissing that much time away on another un-edited book.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 10, 2021 05:17 PM (ACi07)

The Stand is a long, long read. That's for sure.
It's basically two full novels. The first is plague apocalypse novel. Then a post-apocalypse end of days novel after that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:18 PM (XvPQV)

251 When I was in 6th grade in middle school, Steven King and I connected on an intellectual level. Sadly, at that age, young people don't really understand the value of a dollar.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 10, 2021 05:18 PM (z3kfP)

252 Don't' look now, but a lot of the heavy hitters on gab were posting a meme called "choose your favorite false flag", and one of the choices was 9/11
Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (AwPyG)


Unfortunately, that's almost half of Gab.

Seriously Q types, and if they're not anti-semitic, they're 9/11 was a controlled demolition. Usually both. The jooooz did it, and are doing everything including Covid.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 10, 2021 05:19 PM (wAnMi)

253 I just got my copy of the Inferno for that "100 Days of Dante".

It sounds like fun.

I've read the Inferno a few times and enjoyed it but never managed to move on to the Purgatorio and Paradiso.

Now, I gots me a reason to do exactly that.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2021 05:19 PM (5NkmN)

254
If biden is our doctor, then should I listen to him when he said to not trust the vaccine, or should I listen to him now?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2021 05:19 PM (ejyaU)

255
And The Gunslinger. John Cullum is a priest, as I recall, and a hero.


The best priest hero ever is the priest in Dead Alive.

"I kick ass for the Lord!!!" (proceeds to slaughter dozens of zombies)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:19 PM (KZzsI)

256 I need to get a new book, trip tomorrow hopefully
Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:15 PM (2JoB

Kindle or real book? What genre do you want to read?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:19 PM (XvPQV)

257 Hadrian,
Arnica gel is handy stuff to keep on hand. I think the one I use is Arnicare.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at September 10, 2021 05:20 PM (YynYJ)

258 If biden is our doctor, then should I listen to him when he said to not trust the vaccine, or should I listen to him now?
Posted by: Soothsayer

Just say NO to needle-rape.

Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 05:20 PM (L3Rsz)

259 If you don't find his books to be anti-Christian...I don't know what to tell you...it's not subtle. Religious characters in his books are always evil...except in The Stand and maybe Salem's Lot.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (XvPQV)
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I didn't say that he doesn't have negative images of Christian characters. I say that I find his general moral atmosphere evocative of Christian themes.

Do you realize what a sorry group of people the OT Patriarchs shape up to be? (save Joseph)

Israel was told that when you get a king, like the neighbors, he is not to multiply horses and wives. David didn't heed. And he also permanently divided the kingdom, and received a 6th of it, over the fact that he was a shitty father who felt guilty when Absalom rebelled, that he couldn't side with his much more loyal generals.

I once heard a preacher give a sermon about how David's life was a life of *decline*.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:20 PM (XHhHI)

260 239 Maximum Overdrive is just Killdozer with trucks
Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 05:16 PM (uUDKV)

#KilldozerDidNothingWrong

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:20 PM (XvPQV)

261 IT had some good stuff, but the whole last quarter or so was A+ Prime crapola.

*************

I really liked the 90s TV mini-series which I thought was great. Like, it was scary but not so much that it left me awake at night. I like the idea that a bunch of dorky kids (of which I was one) could take on an alternative dimension monster and win.

The recent movie remake on the other hand had to be from a gay scriptwriter dropping acid.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:21 PM (hQVBP)

262 So, I do not find King to be anti-Christian, I almost expect that he is some kind of Christian of sorts.
Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (XHhHI)


His daughter is a minister for the Unitarian Universalist Church.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:21 PM (Ez6QX)

263 Skip, how are you feeling?

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 10, 2021 05:21 PM (HOSkN)

264 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:18 PM (KZzsI)

Just opposite for me. I have two Conn books and made it a third way through each before I forgot about them. Different strokes for different folks.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (2DOZq)

265 I once heard a preacher give a sermon about how David's life was a life of *decline*.
Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:20 PM (XHhHI)

Fair correction.
And yes, one reason I know the Bible is true is that even the 'good men' do some pretty ugly, selfish stuff.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (XvPQV)

266
About 7-8 years ago, I stood in line for an autograph from Sue Grafton. Close to 4 hours. My SiL is a huge fan, and my brother and I conspired to get a signed copy of one of her last books as his 20th anniversary present to her.

Grafton was sweet, and kind of bird-like. When I told her what was up with my SiL, she laughed out loud and said that was the best autograph she'd done in awhile.

Got the "Happy 20th Anniversary" dedication as well.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (n+4am)

267 IT had some good stuff, but the whole last quarter or so was A+ Prime crapola.

He has some good short stories.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2021 05:17 PM (5NkmN)
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I liked Desperation. (shrug)

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (XHhHI)

268 Alex Jones is the special guest on Friday Night Tights right now.

https://tinyurl.com/fttzkfcw

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (996BY)

269 Usually both. The jooooz did it, and are doing everything including Covid.

**********

Don't forget they control the weather too!

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (hQVBP)

270 I think A Canticle for Lebowitz is a better read for these days.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (YynYJ)

271 His daughter is a minister for the Unitarian Universalist Church.

I cannot understand how that's even a job.

"OK we don't believe in anything. You can think whatever you want and do whatever you want, and everyone is going to heaven. Let's break for coffee and Madge's hash brownies"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:23 PM (KZzsI)

272 @252

I may have to disagree--you can choose who to follow, of course, and I haven't had that experience.

@majorpatriot is a good solid no-nonsense conservative, for starters. @nationalfile is pretty good, too.

And for parody, @Babylonbee, and @ildonaldotrump--this one is a parody trump account, but it sure seems a whole lot like it's the big man, himself.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:23 PM (AwPyG)

273 Real if military history, I may have to get ebook if I want to continue the Sharpe series, they are had to find used.

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:23 PM (2JoB8)

274 I need to go eat something.

Since tyrant joe's diktat announcement, I've not eaten much. Made me sick to my stomach, that this could happen in America, it did.

But now I am hungry, so I guess I am working through those stages of grief?

Have a fine evening, all.

Posted by: lizabth at September 10, 2021 05:23 PM (L3Rsz)

275 Skip, how are you feeling?
Posted by: Jewells45 at September 10, 2021 05:21 PM (HOSkN)


I've been using my hands, but I'm open to suggestion. Is there another way to do it?

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 10, 2021 05:24 PM (wAnMi)

276 And the Langoliers is an interesting movie

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at September 10, 2021 05:24 PM (YynYJ)

277 I always read the OT patriarchs as absolutely lousy people. Now recall that these are the Chosen People.

The message being: This is the best humanity has to offer, and they still suck.... so how the hell do you think you're so damn great?

Yadda yadda yadda, then long hair sandal wearing Nazarene, enter stage right.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2021 05:24 PM (6FeV1)

278
#Trump'sFault
Posted by: Paul Mirengoff at September 10, 2021 05:12 PM (O6Y19)

_________

The Power Line guys are like Franz von Papen on the Night of Long Knives.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2021 05:25 PM (/U27+)

279 @271

>>His daughter is a minister for the Unitarian Universalist Church. I cannot understand how that's even a job.


If you dig a little deep you'd probably uncover an Eyes Wide Shut situation.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2021 05:25 PM (bnkLv)

280 Well shoot, I guess that's why I never heard back from you!
Posted by: Jewells45

email sent.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 10, 2021 05:25 PM (f0hb9)

281 The Shawshank Redemption is on my list of top 10 favorite movies.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 10, 2021 05:25 PM (NpAcC)

282 And yes, one reason I know the Bible is true is that even the 'good men' do some pretty ugly, selfish stuff.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (XvPQV)
___

Yep.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 10, 2021 05:25 PM (E/NJa)

283 Grafton was sweet, and kind of bird-like. When I told her what was up with my SiL, she laughed out loud and said that was the best autograph she'd done in awhile.

I saw her at signings a couple of times. She was a nice lady. Signed my copy of Keziah Dane. Which I've never actually read.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2021 05:25 PM (nfrXX)

284 Jewells better today than yesterday, was up in the church bell tower 3 times by myself. Wondering if it's sinus but different than my usual

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:25 PM (2JoB8)

285 If biden is our doctor, then should I listen to him when he said to not trust the vaccine, or should I listen to him now?

You asked for my second opinion and I just gave it to you!

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 10, 2021 05:25 PM (9Fwwf)

286 I think A Canticle for Lebowitz is a better read for these days.

If more people read Canticle we wouldn’t have these days. Brilliant novel.

“Pain is the only evil I know.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 10, 2021 05:26 PM (CX3cf)

287 I may have to get ebook if I want to continue the Sharpe series, they are had to find used.

Yeah people tend to keep and re-read those. The TV show wasn't bad, but the BBC budgets prevented really full recreations of the battles.

His Archer series and Saxon Tales are terrific. I was less impressed with his Arthur and US Civil War books.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:26 PM (KZzsI)

288 >>I cannot understand how that's even a job.


Atheist Chaplains are worse

https://tinyurl.com/6mwy3uar

Posted by: Ayn Rand at September 10, 2021 05:26 PM (+Rh4C)

289 273 Real if military history, I may have to get ebook if I want to continue the Sharpe series, they are had to find used.
Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:23 PM (2JoB

That's my problem with the Nero Wolfe stories. I can either pay $30 for a paperback or $5 for the Kindle version...ah well.

Military History suggestions:
The Shattered Sword
The Autobiography of U.S. Grant
The Autobiography of John Pershing
The Art of War in the Western World by Archer Jones
And I'll toss in 'We were Soldiers Once, and Young"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:26 PM (XvPQV)

290 247 I think I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't like Shawshank.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (Ez6QX)

No, you're not. I hated it too.
Posted by: Archer at September

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I loved the aria scene in the movie.

Posted by: LostInSpace at September 10, 2021 05:26 PM (t4H2r)

291 I just got my copy of the Inferno for that "100 Days of Dante". Now, I gots me a reason to do exactly that.
Posted by: naturalfake

I am enjoying the videos very, very much. I read it 45 years ago and didn't get anything out of it. Too young, too smart, too busy with foolish things.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 05:26 PM (mD/uy)

292 RE: King

Well, he is a writer of fiction, so he's doing what he does best. And sucking at it.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 10, 2021 05:27 PM (aXxgO)

293 I liked Desperation. (shrug)
Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (XHhHI)


I did too.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 10, 2021 05:27 PM (Fs5vw)

294 Wonder how Nurse is feeling today. She seemed worried yesterday.

Posted by: dartist at September 10, 2021 05:27 PM (+ya+t)

295 I had to rush here and post this. Apple News just flashed this across my phone screen:

How America's 9/11 response led to the Capitol insurrection

Insert rolleyes emoji here

Posted by: blaster at September 10, 2021 05:27 PM (mbFEM)

296 I liked Desperation. (shrug)
Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (XHhHI)


I really liked the first half or so of "Desperation", then it seemed to me like King was just stem-winding cuz nothing really happened and the plot stood still for a couple hundred pages, then we came to his usual unsatisfying ending.

One thing each of those 3 novels had was a satisfying ending, a rarity in King's oeuvre.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2021 05:28 PM (5NkmN)

297 I had to rush here and post this. Apple News just flashed this across my phone screen

I think people who work at places like that (and Vice, etc) have fist fights over who will write the dumbest headlines and hot takes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:28 PM (KZzsI)

298 @295

>>How America's 9/11 response led to the Capitol insurrection.

Well they're right but not in the way they mean it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2021 05:28 PM (bnkLv)

299 Skip glad you are better!

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 10, 2021 05:29 PM (HOSkN)

300 In the end of Desperation, as he descends into a cave, the rebellious motorcycle, washed-up novelist hero "Johnny" has battled through accepting God's hand in his life and he basically vows to simply be an instrument of God in ridding the world of this horror.

His sacrifice to save strangers he didn't know, is likened to Jesus', and he finally has made peace with how God shaped his life to save the people trapped in the town.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:29 PM (XHhHI)

301 Biden's speech had zero to do with COVID. It was about changing the news cycle from Afghanistan and appealing to his base. It's no coincidence that he gave the speech two days before the 20th Anniversary of 9/11.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 10, 2021 05:29 PM (BJKQV)

302 I'm very pleased that I managed this week to detour and delay yard work.
This morning, we got some actual rain. First time since May. Tomorrow I'm attending a knife and gub show east of here.
Sunday, I'll ... rest.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at September 10, 2021 05:29 PM (FtJ1S)

303 How America's 9/11 response led to the Capitol insurrection

***********

That's nothing, I did a recent search to find a quote and saw this headline: "Why the American Revolution Was a Mistake"

From Vox of course.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:29 PM (hQVBP)

304 I agree that Kings writings suck. And he is a commie piece of shit to boot.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 10, 2021 05:30 PM (eJn7u)

305 If you wonder how well Biden's speech went over with the left yesterday, the New York Times just committed a random act of journalism and reported on a story that said Biden's drone strike the other day actually killed an aid worker and 9 other people including kids.

Apparently the New York Times reporters saw security camera footage and interviewed witnesses who were there.
Posted by: Azathoth at September 10, 2021 04:48 PM (O5atO)


Horrible. And instead of apologizing, he punishes us. He's a true tyrant, through and through. I hope his brain explodes.

Posted by: LASue at September 10, 2021 05:30 PM (Ed8Zd)

306 @283

Grafton is writer who came out of hollywood screenwriting, and she always swore she'd never option her work for movies; she knows how the sausage gets made.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:30 PM (AwPyG)

307 I liked Desperation. (shrug)
Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (XHhHI)


I did too.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 10, 2021 05:27 PM (Fs5vw)


Which one was that? The one in the desert town or the one in the neighborhood? There were two books released at the same time with some of the same characters.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:30 PM (Ez6QX)

308 UU's do sort of believe in a higher power, but it's not mandatory to be part of their faith tradition and as with other faith traditions, the minister has a job. They prepare worship services-even if the higher power is rather nebulous and they preach about love and justice and supporting social justice causes and peace, and I assuming they do pastoral care with their congregants and have study of books-or less likely the Bible and have regular business meetings.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 10, 2021 05:31 PM (AJzTi)

309 276 And the Langoliers is an interesting movie
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at September 10, 2021 05:24 PM (YynYJ)


I liked the short story more. But the movie was okay. I would actually like to see a remake of that one.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 10, 2021 05:31 PM (Fs5vw)

310 He suffered the curse of all successful writers -- editors afraid to tell him "no."
Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2021 04:58 PM (nfrXX)



Ding, ding, ding.

Once King got popular, his own admitted propensity towards verbal diarrhea, combined with the editorial issue, sent him into the abyss.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 10, 2021 05:31 PM (ZSK0i)

311 I liked the movie version of "Misery." But that's mostly because of James Caan and Kathy Bates' performances. That woman still scares the hell out of me.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 10, 2021 05:31 PM (BJKQV)

312 Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 10, 2021 05:25 PM (f0hb9)

Okay I will check in a few minutes.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 10, 2021 05:31 PM (HOSkN)

313 We really do live in a paltry time. I listened to DeSantis. I like him and I'm grateful we have him. But this is the best response to the abomination that was Biden's diktat? We have to protect jobs? I don't expect a Patrick Henry or a Daniel Webster, but I do expect better than this.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 10, 2021 05:31 PM (H8QX8)

314 @301

I still think they are in a panic about the football stadiums.

Boy, is that bad optics

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:31 PM (AwPyG)

315 Desperation > The Regulators

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:32 PM (XvPQV)

316 >>How America's 9/11 response led to the Capitol insurrection


"I'm guessing the reporter who wrote that is about 27 years old. . .?"

-- Ben Rhodes

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2021 05:32 PM (+Rh4C)

317 I may have to disagree--you can choose who to follow, of course, and I haven't had that experience.

@majorpatriot is a good solid no-nonsense conservative, for starters. @nationalfile is pretty good, too.

And for parody, @Babylonbee, and @ildonaldotrump--this one is a parody trump account, but it sure seems a whole lot like it's the big man, himself.
Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:23 PM (AwPyG)


Follow all of those, @somebitchiknow and neonrevolt off the top of my head. But if you want some shockers, go to the "explore" section for top trending gabs.

I had signed up in 2016 the second or third month they were around, and hadn't really been on since that election until recently when I got booted from twatter. Turned out a LOT of the "normal" pro-Trump conservatives I'd followed when I first joined apparently completely lost their shit sometime in the past 5 years. So I did a LOT of unfollowing the first few weeks.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 10, 2021 05:32 PM (wAnMi)

318 Has L. Cheney officially been tossed out of the R party by McCarthy yet? I'll wait.

Posted by: Capital Eff at September 10, 2021 05:32 PM (dynG0)

319 Military History suggestions:
The Shattered Sword
The Autobiography of U.S. Grant
The Autobiography of John Pershing
The Art of War in the Western World by Archer Jones
And I'll toss in 'We were Soldiers Once, and Young"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

I'd add: The Last Stand of Fox Company - Drury & Clavin
and Hornfischer's The Fleet at Flood Tide

I have a huge pile just looking at me - I'll get to them. Swearsies!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 05:32 PM (mD/uy)

320 I think A Canticle for Lebowitz is a better read for these days.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

I've read it so many times I can outline the book.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 10, 2021 05:32 PM (f0hb9)

321 Horrible. And instead of apologizing, he punishes us. He's a true tyrant, through and through. I hope his brain explodes.

************

I don't think his brain has the energy to explode, merely liquify and ooze out of his diseased nostrils.

I'm fine with that by the way.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:33 PM (hQVBP)

322 Was scary being light headed most of day, thought for sure Covid but who gets that symptom?

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:33 PM (2JoB8)

323 Ugh, the socks they stick.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 10, 2021 05:33 PM (wAnMi)

324 Which one was that? The one in the desert town or the one in the neighborhood? There were two books released at the same time with some of the same characters.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:30 PM (Ez6QX)


I treated both as one story.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 10, 2021 05:33 PM (Fs5vw)

325 Once King got popular, his own admitted propensity towards verbal diarrhea, combined with the editorial issue, sent him into the abyss.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 10, 2021 05:31 PM (ZSK0i)

Like George Lucas?

Posted by: 29Victor at September 10, 2021 05:33 PM (BJKQV)

326 The Shawshank Redemption is on my list of top 10 favorite movies.

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It's an excellent movie. It may have been mentioned, but I think this was one of his short stories. I remember reading it decades ago, before the movie release, and thinking it was good.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 10, 2021 05:33 PM (O+I8R)

327 I don't expect a Patrick Henry or a Daniel Webster, but I do expect better than this.

Yeah but that's where we are today. The tallest shrew stands out from the crowd but they're still like 2" tall. Our nation was built by giants. We're barely up to their toenail these days.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:34 PM (KZzsI)

328 then we came to his usual unsatisfying ending.

One thing each of those 3 novels had was a satisfying ending, a rarity in King's oeuvre.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2021 05:28 PM (5NkmN)
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Gordon R. Dickson was my favorite author, but it took a while until I realized that Dickson could never write an ending to a novel--except, perhaps, for The Dragon and the George.

I like the part right before the ending in Desperation, but yeah, it's kind of a fizzle ending.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:34 PM (XHhHI)

329 Someone I thought might be a fed showed up yesterday to make an oblique, ungrammatical suggestion that someone connected to Russiagate should not be alive.



Geez, I'm sitting right here.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 10, 2021 05:34 PM (yQpMk)

330 Fuck Joe Biden and his girlfriend, Fauci.

Come at me bro.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 10, 2021 05:34 PM (kbvR/)

331 I think the title was, "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption."

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 10, 2021 05:34 PM (O+I8R)

332
Did I not warn you last week that 9/11's anniversary will be more about 1/6 than 9/11?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2021 05:34 PM (ejyaU)

333 I've read it so many times I can outline the book.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 10, 2021 05:32 PM (f0hb9)



"Pat, hey Pat!!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 10, 2021 05:34 PM (ZSK0i)

334 On the topic of our current dystopia being foretold by famous writers decades ago (Carl Sagan), here's a synopsis of Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six from 1998: A global elitist ecoterrorism group uses big Pharma to engineer an ebola-based virus called Shiva. It was to be released at the Olympic games so it could be disseminated across the globe and wipe out half of humanity. After the pandemic peaks, their vaccine would contain a slow-release version of the virus that would finish off the population and "save" the planet. The earth-friendly elitists survive in isolation on huge tracts of land they bought in Kansas, not unlike the tracts of land Bill Gates has bought up.

Good thing it's just fiction, right?

Posted by: Brisco County Sr at September 10, 2021 05:34 PM (DBPIP)

335 313 We really do live in a paltry time. I listened to DeSantis. I like him and I'm grateful we have him. But this is the best response to the abomination that was Biden's diktat? We have to protect jobs? I don't expect a Patrick Henry or a Daniel Webster, but I do expect better than this.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 10, 2021 05:31 PM (H8QX
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Everyone has too much to lose still. If the USA is dead, there is still alot of meat to pick from the bones.

Posted by: Revenant at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (P69fT)

336 But that's mostly because of James Caan and Kathy Bates' performances. That woman still scares the hell out of me.
Posted by: 29Victor

For God's sake don't let her tie you to the bed.

Looking back, this is always sound advice.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (mD/uy)

337 We really do live in a paltry time. I listened to DeSantis. I like him and I'm grateful we have him. But this is the best response to the abomination that was Biden's diktat? We have to protect jobs? I don't expect a Patrick Henry or a Daniel Webster, but I do expect better than this.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 10, 2021 05:31 PM (H8QX

Yup...DeSantis should have said "Joe's says he's losing patience with us? Well, we're losing patience with him!
Gentlemen! I call for the president to resign and take his shot and stick it up his ass!".


Then walk off ala "Animal House" while humming The Star Spangled Banner.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (R/m4+)

338 Could somebody drop me the 411 on why generational Communists are being labeled Fascists by Conservatives? Is there a specific reason(s) behind this messaging?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (5PiLF)

339 Spiritual practices for Unitarians:

https://www.uua.org/beliefs/what-we-believe/sources

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (AJzTi)

340 I still think they are in a panic about the football stadiums.

Boy, is that bad optics
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Have you seen pics of that stadium in NJ filled with water like a giant swimming pool?

Posted by: dartist at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (+ya+t)

341 Desperation > The Regulators
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 10, 2021 05:32 PM (XvPQV)
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First one was King, second was "Bachman".

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (XHhHI)

342 Big name writers like King, Clancy, and before them Michener refuse to accept any sort of editing. And the publishers go along with it because publishing these days is driven by best sellers. King is a guaranteed best seller so he can do whatever the Help he wants.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (SHDBw)

343 @326

>>It's an excellent movie.

It probably has one of the better earned endings and it wasn't even in the book.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (bnkLv)

344 Like George Lucas?
Posted by: 29Victor at September 10, 2021 05:33 PM (BJKQV)



In a word (just one word), yes.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (ZSK0i)

345 We have to protect jobs? I don't expect a Patrick Henry or a Daniel Webster, but I do expect better than this.

************

We want William Wallace/Braveheart and they give us George McFly.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 10, 2021 05:36 PM (hQVBP)

346 Biden's speech had zero to do with COVID. It was about changing the news cycle from Afghanistan and appealing to his base. It's no coincidence that he gave the speech two days before the 20th Anniversary of 9/11.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 10, 2021 05:29 PM (BJKQV)

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Right. He "campaigned" on having a plan to defeat a virus (despite it being an impossible task owing to that whole mutation thing -- SCIENCE!, you know "the thing"-- typical for the retarded utopians) ... and suddenly the plan is rolled out eight months into his fraudulent installation?

Yeah, try to jab the other one now ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 10, 2021 05:36 PM (49ssQ)

347 I think it's more that the Bible is full of stories of unlikely heroes.

God doesn't use the same measuring stick that we do. David was a shepherd boy, the youngest son. Jacob was a sneaky thief. Abraham was a murderer, and he and Gideon both tried to explain to God that he'd chosen the wrong guy.

Nope, says God

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:36 PM (AwPyG)

348 Ruben Navarrette just posted at FB, nine things he agrees with Larry Elder about:

*Parents ought to have school choice. Mostly white teachers unions are hurting our schools to help themselves.
*Race doesn't have to hold you back. Don't be a victim.
*Not everything that has gone wrong or badly for black or brown folks is the fault of the White man.
*Black and brown folks need to be self-reliant and not constantly look to government to save us.
*Black people killing black people - and Latinos killing other Latinos - is more common than white people killing us.
*Business is hugely important to any state and it must be protected, not targeted.
*Hard work and good choices are the answer to many problems, not all but many.
*Family is the most important thing. Our parents are wise. We should listen more and fight them less.
*Gavin Newsom has failed as governor of California.

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at September 10, 2021 05:36 PM (L2ZTs)

349 I still think they are in a panic about the football stadiums.

Their MO is to deceive, but they're failing and had to resort to a Hail Mary (well, Hail Satan, to be more accurate) of attempted dictatorship. If they can't get everyone vaccinated...their panic is real.

Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2021 05:36 PM (ELgVT)

350 Paul Joseph Watson's latest:

https://youtu.be/nSJQB9LmLXw

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at September 10, 2021 05:36 PM (YynYJ)

351 artemis: "The Shining's a pretty good movie"

Which King reportedly hated.

I'll take a Kubrick over a King any day of the week.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 10, 2021 05:36 PM (aXxgO)

352 Gordon R. Dickson was my favorite author, but it took a while until I realized that Dickson could never write an ending to a novel--except, perhaps, for The Dragon and the George.

That's the only book of his I've read, actually.

The earth-friendly elitists survive in isolation on huge tracts of land they bought in Kansas

I think it was Northern Canada, but yeah.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:36 PM (KZzsI)

353 247 I think I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't like Shawshank.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:07 PM (Ez6QX)

I never understood how that was supposed to be a good movie. Guy goes to prison. Guy makes a prison friend. Guy breaks out of prison. The end.

I remember reading the short story when I was like 9 years old. It goes on and on about ass rape. I was like"WTF, this is just disgusting, not spooky". Never read King again.

Posted by: Drerbrerard at September 10, 2021 05:37 PM (b/6cr)

354 For God's sake don't let her tie you to the bed.
Looking back, this is always sound advice.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (mD/uy)

Sure is...

Posted by: George Costanza at September 10, 2021 05:37 PM (R/m4+)

355 It's true. Stephen King cannot end a story. Every one is a disappointment.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #EnemyOfTheState (Mzdiz) at September 10, 2021 05:37 PM (Mzdiz)

356 I meant Moses, instead of Abraham, but Abraham didn't follow instructions, either.

You'd think if God was given you instructions, you wouldn't give Him a lot of guff.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:37 PM (AwPyG)

357 Was scary being light headed most of day, thought for sure Covid but who gets that symptom?
Posted by: Skip

You taking any meds for hyper-tension?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2021 05:37 PM (mD/uy)

358 Widespread Pepe
My definition of Fascism is the government getting private companies to do their bidding
Everything for the state

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:38 PM (2JoB8)

359 Moses was a murderer too.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 10, 2021 05:38 PM (eJn7u)

360 Could somebody drop me the 411 on why generational Communists are being labeled Fascists by Conservatives? Is there a specific reason(s) behind this messaging?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (5PiLF)
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For me, it's because Communism doesn't exist, has never existed.

So, if you're talking about a real-world thing, it's a national socialism.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:38 PM (XHhHI)

361 Jordan61: you're not alone. I didn't care for Shawshank either.

NO ONE ON EARTH was ever more innocent that poor poor Shawshank in that film, and everyone who's against him is pure, pure evil. It's a complete black-and-white victim fantasy.

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at September 10, 2021 05:38 PM (L2ZTs)

362 nood



gainzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: banana Dream at September 10, 2021 05:38 PM (Yh0oe)

363 Really good Gordon R Dickson story called In the Bone

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2021 05:39 PM (uUDKV)

364 Jewells better today than yesterday, was up in the church bell tower 3 times by myself. Wondering if it's sinus but different than my usual

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:25 PM (2JoB


Do you have an oximeter? You should be 94% or higher, according to my rules.

My oximeter was manufactured in Wuhan, China - the gold standard of shit that might just kill you.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at September 10, 2021 05:39 PM (dQvv7)

365 I'll take a Kubrick over a King any day of the week.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 10, 2021 05:36 PM (aXxgO)

"I like to know who's buying my drinks, Lloyd..."

Posted by: Boswell at September 10, 2021 05:39 PM (5iUNf)

366 I think it's more that the Bible is full of stories of unlikely heroes.

Jonah is the one that cracks me up the most. People think he was reluctant to be a prophet, but that wasn't it at all. God told him to go to the Assyrians and preach repentance. He hated the Assyrians, they were brutal oppressive enemies of the Hebrews, and besides Jews had culturally begun to just despised any gentiles at that point.

Jonah's issue was that he didn't want the Assyrians to be saved. And he knew that God was merciful and would save them. So he didn't want to go preach to the evil buggers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:40 PM (KZzsI)

367 @3340

I meant the fact the stadium crowds are openly chanting "F*uck Biden", at great length and at great volume.

Check for the videos, on Sunday--it's very heartening

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:40 PM (AwPyG)

368 Could somebody drop me the 411 on why generational Communists are being labeled Fascists by Conservatives? Is there a specific reason(s) behind this messaging?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:35 PM (5PiLF)

They are basically synonyms but I assume it's preemptive .

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:41 PM (2DOZq)

369 I meant Moses, instead of Abraham, but Abraham didn't follow instructions, either.

You'd think if God was given you instructions, you wouldn't give Him a lot of guff.
Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:37 PM (AwPyG)
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Imagine yourself, during a witness call, with a microphone, telling about your great faith in God, in front of the church, telling people that God himself told you he would make you a Great Nation, and you let men sleep with your wife so you wouldn't end up dead.

And each time, the Lord had to bail you out and tell you not to do that.

....

I'll just let that set there.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:41 PM (XHhHI)

370 Anony: I'll take Stanley over Stephen any day of the week too.

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at September 10, 2021 05:41 PM (L2ZTs)

371 Gideon both tried to explain to God that he'd chosen the wrong guy.

Nope, says God
Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:36 PM (AwPyG)

When the angel spoke to Gideon he said "The Lord is with you mighty warrior." At the time Gideon was threshing wheat on a winepress to hide it from the Midianites (instead of on a threshing floor up on a hill where he would have been seen). He was hiding, he wasn't a warrior. He was too scared to fight. But when God calls you a mighty warrior that's what you become.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 10, 2021 05:41 PM (BJKQV)

372 @366

I think about exactly that, when I wish the Democrats would just get wiped out, or something.

Jonah was sent to save Nineveh, because everyone's worth saving.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:42 PM (AwPyG)

373 For me, it's because Communism doesn't exist, has never existed.

So, if you're talking about a real-world thing, it's a national socialism.
Posted by: Axeman

National Socialism was the dialectic to the Communist Revolution in Germany (1920s and early 30s).

Is it an appeal to the propagandized masses or something here at home?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:42 PM (5PiLF)

374 Jonah's issue was that he didn't want the Assyrians to be saved. And he knew that God was merciful and would save them. So he didn't want to go preach to the evil buggers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:40 PM (KZzsI)
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I actually think the Veggie Tales movie did that story a good bit of justice.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:43 PM (XHhHI)

375 Tonypete no meds other than vitamins and occasionally Advil

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:43 PM (2JoB8)

376 I think it's more that the Bible is full of stories of unlikely heroes.

Reminds me of Rodney Carrington's bit about an altar call where he gets all emotionally overcome and goes up confessing his sins, and its going great up until he confesses having relations with a goat.

"oh I wouldn't have said that"
--The Pastor

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:43 PM (KZzsI)

377 This time next year, as we are dealing with the Sigma variant that makes some people sneeze a lot and that 1 person with stage 4 pancreatic cancer "died of", Biden's handlers will write a new E.O. that bans non-vaccinated people from voting in person in a Federal election.

America is truly and irrevocably over if that happens.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at September 10, 2021 05:43 PM (iXK+X)

378 @374

Veggie tales ftw!

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:44 PM (AwPyG)

379 National Socialism was the dialectic to the Communist Revolution in Germany (1920s and early 30s).

Is it an appeal to the propagandized masses or something here at home?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:42 PM (5PiLF)
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I used to think that. And then I found out that Mussolini was the first person to write words that translate into English as "national socialism".

Mussolini wanted to save Marxism from what he saw as its inherent weakness.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:45 PM (XHhHI)

380 They are basically synonyms but I assume it's preemptive .
Posted by: Just a side note

Fascism is a reaction to Marxism/Communism. It's the only shit that has ever gotten rid of the fuckers. Pinochet was a Fascist.

Fascism has been a blip on the radar compared to Marxism/Communism.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:45 PM (5PiLF)

381 Jonah's issue was that he didn't want the Assyrians to be saved. And he knew that God was merciful and would save them. So he didn't want to go preach to the evil buggers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:40 PM (KZzsI)

Yeah. It was like God telling a Jew in the '20s to preach to Berlin so God didn't wipe the Germans out.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 10, 2021 05:45 PM (BJKQV)

382 National Socialism is everything works for the state, everyone knows their place in the state
Communism is class division, taking down the higher level and everyone on the same level, in theory anyway.

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:46 PM (2JoB8)

383 Could somebody drop me the 411 on why generational Communists are being labeled Fascists by Conservatives? Is there a specific reason(s) behind this messaging?

Because people think "fascist" just means tyrant or oppressive dictator these days. Its been degraded to the point that it has no special meaning. "Never forget" my ass.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2021 05:46 PM (KZzsI)

384 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:42 PM (5PiLF)

Himmler was a Marxist but his anti-Semitic views and nationalism made him a Nazi.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:47 PM (2DOZq)

385 https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/09/
about-that-drone-strike.php

I suspected 24 hrs is was a poor target

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:47 PM (2JoB8)

386 Jonah was sent to save Nineveh, because everyone's worth saving.
Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2021 05:42 PM (AwPyG)
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The OT is not a story about an "Angry God", as some people think. It's about a merciful God who has reason to get angry.

I get moved reading God's lament in Ezekial (I think it's in the 30s) where he refers to Israel as a symbol of envy to the nations (during the reign of Solomon) and how Solomon whored himself out.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:49 PM (XHhHI)

387 I can usually tell how the Governors of Texas and Florida are doing by listening to the Woke Cult mock and rage at work. Judging by this week, I'm assuming the Gov of Texas has done well?

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 10, 2021 05:49 PM (QFVV9)

388 Fascism has been a blip on the radar compared to Marxism/Communism.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:45 PM (5PiLF)

They're literally the same, they just choose different middle managers to run their dictatorships.

Posted by: Sjg at September 10, 2021 05:49 PM (gDSJf)

389 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:45 PM (5PiLF)

Pinochet was called a fascist as was Franco but they were not. Fascists were Marxists who thought they knew how to improve it.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:49 PM (2DOZq)

390 I used to think that. And then I found out that Mussolini was the first person to write words that translate into English as "national socialism".

Mussolini wanted to save Marxism from what he saw as its inherent weakness.
Posted by: Axeman

But he wasn't a Marxist?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:50 PM (5PiLF)

391 Pet Semetary is real, man.

Posted by: Billie Eilish at September 10, 2021 05:50 PM (sWM8x)

392 I liked Desperation. (shrug)
Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:22 PM (XHhHI)
I did too.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 10, 2021 05:27 PM (Fs5vw)
Which one was that? The one in the desert town or the one in the neighborhood? There were two books released at the same time with some of the same characters.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 10, 2021 05:30 PM (Ez6QX)


The one in the desert town.

I think the other book was called "The Regulator" IIRC. It was written by "Richard Bachman".
That was kind of the sales pitch. One story but each written by King's different personalities.
Again IIRC, I liked "Bachman's" book better.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2021 05:51 PM (Xo5lP)

393 But he wasn't a Marxist?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:50 PM (5PiLF)

He is the creator of Fascism. His better version of Marxism.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:51 PM (2DOZq)

394 Himmler was a Marxist but his anti-Semitic views and nationalism made him a Nazi.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 10, 2021 05:47 PM (2DOZq)
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Hitler promoted "Scientific Antisemitism". So it was probably simply falling in with Hitler.

In MK chapter 2, Hitler condemns traditional antisemitism and says that his father would be ashamed of him were he to simply adopt such a sentiment. Hitler makes the Jew the Enemy of Nature and "her aristocratic principle" (survival of the fittest).

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:51 PM (XHhHI)

395 Pinochet was called a fascist as was Franco but they were not. Fascists were Marxists who thought they knew how to improve it.
Posted by: Just a side note

What books is this message coming from so I can look into it?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:52 PM (5PiLF)

396 Clancy jumped the shark with Rainbow Six. Not because of the plot but because of this scene (spoilers)
Ex-KGB, now head of org's security is talking to another member of the org. The other member reveals the whole plan to ex-KGB who had no idea. ex-KGB says "Interesting plan! Say, is that a new gun that you have? Mind if I take a look?"
"Sure." (hands over gun)
"Thanks." Bang (shoots the idiot).

Posted by: Chuck C at September 10, 2021 05:14 PM (EughT)

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How is this a criticism? It was the best part of the book.

Posted by: Brisco County Sr at September 10, 2021 05:52 PM (DBPIP)

397 Shawshank Redemption was an okay movie, but I don't get the "best of the 90s" mythology that's built up around it. It was a decent to good movie at a time when there were a lot of decent to good movies.

Posted by: CppThis at September 10, 2021 05:53 PM (UewuT)

398 382 National Socialism is everything works for the state, everyone knows their place in the state
Communism is class division, taking down the higher level and everyone on the same level, in theory anyway.
Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 05:46 PM (2JoB

National Socialism replaces classes with national identity. Hitler saw Jews as synonymous with Capitalism, like Marx did. Hitler used controls on heavily regulated, Nazi owned businesses (or you weren't in business) to enact his version of socialism. But all businesses worked for the good of the Volk instead of for filthy profits.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 10, 2021 05:53 PM (BJKQV)

399 What the elites are doing is textbook Fascism, which basically means government and business work as one for their own power and wealth. Communism (in theory) is the People running things thru committee and no big shots owning big things. To the normie, Fascism means military uniforms and invading the world and tossing your enemies in extermination camps, so not so popular. Many of them still see Communism as "fairness and equity, and no big shots taking all the stuff" so they don't loathe the word and that is why the Opposition will sort of admit to C but never ever F.

Posted by: Azjaeger at September 10, 2021 05:53 PM (3/XaG)

400 The term fascist became largely meaningless when in the '30s Stalin, as head of the ComIntern, instructed good Commies everywhere to call anyone who opposed them "fascist."

FDR was called a fascist by the commies, just like Hitler, etc....

Posted by: 29Victor at September 10, 2021 05:54 PM (BJKQV)

401 Green Mile was better than Shawshank (the movies). My wife loathes Shawshank.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 10, 2021 05:54 PM (xPJvm)

402 He is the creator of Fascism. His better version of Marxism.
Posted by: Just a side note

So we have the GloboHomoPedo version that ran through Russia then Germany then China now America to conquer the world?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:54 PM (5PiLF)

403 Posted by: Azjaeger

The goal of Marxism is to seize the power structures of all institutions and redistribute it, which they have the last 120 years in America.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:57 PM (5PiLF)

404 Mussolini wanted to save Marxism from what he saw as its inherent weakness.
Posted by: Axeman

But he wasn't a Marxist?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:50 PM (5PiLF)
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He absolutely was. He had long been the editor of one of the most prestigious socialist periodicals in Europe. He was recognized as an intellectual.

He was somewhat more of a purist than Lenin, because the Russian "Bolcheviks" ashcanned "Capitalism", and Mussolini maintained that "Capitalism" hadn't completed the work that Marx assigned to it (to strip away all "arbitrary values" to a single currency of value).

Back in the early 20th century, Lenin's "innovation" of "staged socialism" seemed to be as much of an abrupt change to Marxism.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 05:57 PM (XHhHI)

405 Clown World.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:59 PM (5PiLF)

406 Some fan of Stephen King's asked me if I was he. I simply said "No" and did not add, "Did you really think he would be standing in line at 7:00am for Sears Auto service? Knucklehead."

Posted by: JM in Florida - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at September 10, 2021 06:01 PM (HCeRP)

407 There's a reason why it's formally known as Marx-Leninism, not Marxism.

When you get down to it, "Marxism" is kind of a non sequitur anyway since Marx himself basically just wrote that the workers will burn down a corrupt system but he didn't really finish the story. Kind of like Stephen King amirite!

Posted by: CppThis at September 10, 2021 06:03 PM (UewuT)

408 Fascism has been a blip on the radar compared to Marxism/Communism.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2021 05:45 PM (5PiLF)
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All sustained "Marxist" governments have been national. They use the established framework of a nation to leverage the distribution of goods. China didn't throw in with Russia, Cuba didn't throw in with Russia, Khmer didn't throw in with Mao. They don't throw in.

Each nation has its revolution and the leader of the revolution, having turned the country from a civil frame of reference to a framework of pure force, then uses that force to refuse to step down.

"Dictatorships of the proletariat" never come out the other end.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 06:03 PM (XHhHI)

409 A good movie of how Fascism/ national Socialism works is actually Schindlers List, he uses his company's need for slave labor to save many otherwise being sent to gas chamber.

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2021 06:04 PM (2JoB8)

410 Anything you can say about fascism, you can say about any long-term Marxist government.

The symbol is a bundle of sticks, usually around an axehandle, thus Strength in Unity *is* the symbol. Stalin demanded agreement as a sort of unity. The Maoists demand agreement. Pol Pot took his entire country into the woods to retrain them.

Unity is definitely a symbol of real-world Marxism.

Mussolini, whose party invented "fascism" cited the main principle was "Nothing against the state, nothing outside of the state".

So with the state being the expression of the tyrant's tyranny in the Marxist tyrannies, how exactly did they allow efforts to grow against or outside of the state?

They didn't.

In addition, I would site that Italy and Germany are the main models of European socialist nations, as well. Just more Marx-lite.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 06:12 PM (XHhHI)

411 "Marxism" "Fascism" "Socialism" are really essentially nothing more than feudal or aristocratic systems and just sold under different trademarks . Look at North Korea. How is that anything but a Kingdom? It's just new people trying to become the aristocrats rather than the descendants of the old families that took power originally a thousand or five hundred years ago. All the intellectual yack yack is an advertising smokescreen like calling an automatic transmission in the 50s "Jet Drive" or "Astro Power". No jets or star travel was involved.

Posted by: Azjaeger at September 10, 2021 06:12 PM (3/XaG)

412 Marxism is the Body in the Plastic Bubble.

The theory dies when exposed to the air.

It's a theory about economics from a guy to whom understanding how economics actually work was an afterthought.

In fact, Marx, in various places resists solving the Problem of Scarcity. In fact, you can catch him writing as if Scarcity won't be an issue.

I just recently thought of the flaw in Marx's grand plan to make a human being the unit of demand. Every day you eat at the Marxist trough, you don't expend yourself, you show up again and again "purchasing" your meal with the same "coin".

Thus you aren't rare. You have no scarcity. No wonder Marxist implementors become homocidal. In some way it stops the you-inflation.

Posted by: Axeman at September 10, 2021 06:17 PM (XHhHI)

413 "Someone I thought might be a fed showed up yesterday to make an oblique, ungrammatical suggestion that someone connected to Russiagate should not be alive."

Fed?

Or Mary Cloggenstein from Battleboro, VT?

Posted by: President Biden at September 10, 2021 06:21 PM (NCgXW)

414 Larry McMurtry is another author, who like King, cannot end a book. They just peter off.... Like he had an idea for a book, got the advance and then blew off the hard part.

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