How much did the average US taxpayer pay for the military equipment abandoned in Afghanistan?
[TNDeplorable]

Most reports say that we abandoned $85 billion in equipment. According to the IRS, in 2020 there were 150 million personal tax returns filed. The simple math on that (wait, no one said there would be math!) is that 85 billion divided by 150 million is $567. That doesn’t sound too bad. It’s less than my booze budget for the month. But let’s dig deeper. Caution – more math ahead, but I will be rounding to simple numbers. Some of my assumptions are SWAGs, so no need to take it to the penny.

Let’s look at the numerator of $85 billion. Every report I have seen describes this as the cost of the equipment. Some questions:

1. How much did it cost to ship all that stuff there?
2. What about spare parts and the cost of third part maintenance contractors?
3. How much did it cost to move that equipment (and contractors) around the country to where it was needed?
4. What about the 10% for the “Big Guy”? In this case, the big guys were Afghani politicians and a bunch of their minions, tribal chieftains, and who knows who else was on the gravy train.

I’m going to assume that all that stuff is another $15 billion. Now we have a nice round number of $100 billion.

How about the denominator? There is no way that all those 150 million returns actually paid taxes. Back in 2012, Mittens said that 47% of Americans were getting a free ride. He didn’t even mention illegals. There is no data about this on the IRS website, but there was a recent report that 63% of filers owed no taxes (and probably got money back to boot). So only 37% of returns filed actually paid something. 37% of 150 million is 55.5 million filers who paid. $100 billion divided by 55.5 million comes out to be $1,800 and change.

But wait! It gets better. According to the IRS, the top 50% of wage earners pay approximately 95% of all taxes. So, 95% of $100 Billion is $95 Billion. 50% of 55.5 million filers is 27.75 million filers. $95 billion divided by 27.75 million come out $3,400 and change. The median annual US income in 2020 was $68,400. Don’t you feel better about that $3,400 now? That’s almost six months of my booze budget!

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1 Hey you got $1400.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:00 PM (Tnijr)

2 Which is probably already used up by inflation.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:01 PM (Tnijr)

3 Anyway that's not real money that's just money they make up.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:01 PM (Tnijr)

4 Echo

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:02 PM (Tnijr)

5 Echo Echo

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:02 PM (Tnijr)

6 I was told there would be no math. Granted, I'm fine that there is, but I was told there wouldn't be any.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at September 14, 2021 04:02 PM (hhRHf)

7 I told 'em to come.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:02 PM (Tnijr)

8 caw caw who cares

Posted by: Big Alfredo at September 14, 2021 04:02 PM (Vdukr)

9 This looks a lot like math...

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 14, 2021 04:02 PM (Ez6QX)

10 also... SPONGE!!

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at September 14, 2021 04:03 PM (hhRHf)

11 Trump sucked when it came to being a fiscal conservative, but he was dead on pointing out the trillions we've wasted on dumb wars and foreign intervention.

You could almost make the case that a Democrat wanting to spend more on (insert dumb domestic program here) makes way more sense than some $750 million dollar embassy (real number for Iraq embassy) that a Bush Republican insisted we needed for our security.

Posted by: Hylian at September 14, 2021 04:03 PM (YsTC1)

12 "All perfectly true, no doubt, but hardly the thing to spring on a lad with a morning head."

Posted by: B. Wooster at September 14, 2021 04:03 PM (VJsqe)

13 Some things can not be costed in dollars.

For example the lives of fallen warriors.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 14, 2021 04:03 PM (oEMN+)

14 Hubs and I received $88 in stimulus funds. I donated it to Ace. I really don't need my own money back in a stimulus check, trust me we pay more then that in taxes to the feds and state.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 14, 2021 04:04 PM (2NHgQ)

15 Hey everybody. Hey ace.

Just something to ponder:

We're all (rightfully) mocking AOC's 'tax the rich' dress at the Met Gala last night. And I agree she and everyone there is a malignant narcissist lefty.

But consider... so many of the lefties these days *are* the super-rich. And I have a hard time caring if lefties get soaked.

I fear sometimes that when we fight for lower taxes, it backfires on our side because too many lefties then have more money to give to the DNC, PP and other Stalinist hate groups.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:04 PM (L2ZTs)

16 Remember Russia paying $100K for facebook ads is the end of the world, but Milley and Biden giving the Taliban $85B in military equipment is just fine.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2021 04:04 PM (DpkTQ)

17 Has Fox called Arizona for Newsom yet?

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 14, 2021 04:04 PM (y7DUB)

18 Armored MRAP budget in my house is zip. I feel cheated. My booze budge however is impressive. I'd almost (almost) be willing to trade for a MRAP.

Or a tank.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2021 04:04 PM (BFigT)

19 But just think of all the jobs created/saved in the military industrial complex's business! Like welfare, every dollar spent creates more dollars in the economy!

?

Posted by: Bete at September 14, 2021 04:04 PM (Ojki1)

20 17 Has Fox called Arizona for Newsom yet?

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 14, 2021 04:04 PM (y7DUB)

#twoweeks

Posted by: IC at September 14, 2021 04:04 PM (hV9ir)

21 Fuck Joe Biden.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 14, 2021 04:05 PM (wAnMi)

22 I fear sometimes that when we fight for lower taxes, it backfires on our side

The left structures their tax increases to not hit then inner party, and when possible not the outer party either.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2021 04:05 PM (DpkTQ)

23 Captain Hate: Mexico was called early for Newsom.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:05 PM (L2ZTs)

24 17 Has Fox called Arizona for Newsom yet?
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 14, 2021 04:04 PM (y7DUB)

-----

Wouldn't that be called 'pouncing'?

Posted by: 496 at September 14, 2021 04:05 PM (VJsqe)

25 Wish I got something for my tax money, like one of the 358,530 carbines the Taliban got.

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 04:05 PM (2JoB8)

26 Posobiec claims several top officers want to testify against Milley in his treason trial

https://tinyurl.com/yrjp7zut

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2021 04:05 PM (BFydv)

27 Isn't Biden also sending money to the Taliban? And asking Americans to foot the cost of resettling all those Afghan refugees?

Posted by: IC at September 14, 2021 04:06 PM (hV9ir)

28 But if we speed up inflation, $85 billion will be a rounding error.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 04:06 PM (mdgQ7)

29 Milley said we had to leave the equipment to prevent Trump from going rogue.

Posted by: WiNO at September 14, 2021 04:06 PM (EpDzw)

30 A better way of looking at this is comparing the war to the Chinese belt and road program. They spent less that one trillion (in loans) to buy up ports, infrastructure, utilities, mines, etc. all over the world.

In the process, they built up the chinese construction industry and gained permanent access to resources and markets. And it was loans, so they expect to get a return on that investment in the form of repayment, or usage fees if they take over the properties.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 14, 2021 04:06 PM (C2Pdl)

31 I could buy a lot of kit for 3400

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 14, 2021 04:06 PM (XvPQV)

32 Are going to include the costs for all the R&D to keep ahead of the Chinese now that they have most of our current military tech?

Posted by: Flyguy at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (pLEy5)

33 26 Posobiec claims several top officers want to testify against Milley in his treason trial

https://tinyurl.com/yrjp7zut
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2021 04:05 PM (BFydv)

And FBI agents totally were going to resign because of the shit pulled in 16-20.

Posted by: Bete at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (Ojki1)

34 As tax paying citizens all we are is a revenue stream.

Posted by: Bosk at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (x6uUk)

35 Obviously Trump had no plan to relocate the equipment or it would have been done as resources pulled out.

Posted by: Rona Romney's Floppy Goiter at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (dynG0)

36 But consider... so many of the lefties these days *are* the super-rich. And I have a hard time caring if lefties get soaked.

I fear sometimes that when we fight for lower taxes, it backfires on our side because too many lefties then have more money to give to the DNC, PP and other Stalinist hate groups.
Posted by: qdpsteve

++
I don't have a problem going after the actual oligarchs.

But say you institute a wealth tax past $1 billion, I want the same amount cut off the middle class taxes.

I don;t want the government to have more money, but i do wonder if the ultra wealthy would be quite as liberal if they were hit where it hurt.

It is true though the ultra wealthy like Zuckerberg and Bezos don;t pay their fair share. The average person here probably makes more in taxes then they do.

Posted by: Hylian at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (YsTC1)

37 28 But if we speed up inflation, $85 billion will be a rounding error.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 04:06 PM (mdgQ7)

=========

"Have you considered running for Congress?"
-The Establishment

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (LvTSG)

38 If it makes you feel any better, it was all borrowed and printed.

Posted by: Pudding Head at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (S4Q9r)

39 Fucking worthless traitorous bastards. The equipment we left was worth more than the whole fucking Democrat party and thats if you include their idiot voters.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (o2MD2)

40 It gets worse. The Taliban is providing that equipment to all of our enemies. There are pictures of equipment crossing the Iranian border. They've also already provided some of it to China for reverse engineering. They left things like radios (which they "disabled") in the C-130. That will also be reverse engineered and used against us. That's before we get to explosive detection units that will now be used to defeat us in the future.

Forget about using it against us. A lot of it has a shelf life. But make no mistake, this is the most significant loss of military equipment in our history.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (VpIIl)

41 If you consider the fact that there is no intention of ever paying the national debt, then it doesn't matter. The question becomes why donwe pay income taxes at all?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (mdgQ7)

42 I fear sometimes that when we fight for lower taxes, it backfires on our side because too many lefties then have more money to give to the DNC, PP and other Stalinist hate groups.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:04 PM (L2ZTs)


My attitude on this has almost done a 180.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (y7DUB)

43 We should be incensed over paying a nickel for failure.

Posted by: West at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (QY+6a)

44 What pudding head said.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:08 PM (Tnijr)

45 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 14, 2021 04:08 PM (arJlL)

46 How many people actually pay taxes?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:08 PM (z4k8L)

47 I fear sometimes that when we fight for lower taxes, it backfires on our side because too many lefties then have more money to give to the DNC, PP and other Stalinist hate groups.
Posted by: qdpsteve


I support a wealth tax. Including inheritance tax over some number with not loopholes for foundations.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 14, 2021 04:08 PM (C2Pdl)

48 "The question becomes why do we pay income taxes at all?"

Because the government will come take all of your stuff and kill you if necessary.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:09 PM (Tnijr)

49 So my wife and I shelled out quite a bit to support the Afghani taliban, it seems.

Seeing that we are both the American equivalent, we should be taking delivery of a couple M-16s from Uncle Sugar any day now.

Posted by: fluffy at September 14, 2021 04:09 PM (UnQlg)

50 #42

The real money in leftist endeavors all flows from the governmemt.

Posted by: West at September 14, 2021 04:09 PM (QY+6a)

51 48 "The question becomes why do we pay income taxes at all?"

Because the government will come take all of your stuff and kill you if necessary.
Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:09 PM (Tnijr)

This. The Crowder video on this is pretty simple and good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:10 PM (z4k8L)

52 Honestly I don't care so much about the welfare to Lochheed Martin and Raytheon and their employees with all that military spending. I'd be fine if we had spent another billion to drop a small nuclear bomb and destroy every helicopter and tank we *had* to leave behind after clustering them all in one spot.

But turning all that hardware over to terrorists. I can't even stand to think about it, I get so angry it endangers my health.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at September 14, 2021 04:10 PM (pxVvf)

53 Nice breakdown, but another way to look at it - if the money is the only consideration, which it isn't but it is at least something stable we can get our arms around - is in comparison to other big-ticket items the US government has foolishly sponsored.

The value of the stuff in Afghanistan (and I'll stick with $85 billion) is:
- More than the entire auto industry bailout in 2009
- About *170 times* more than the Solyndra debacle
- About *40 times* more than the development cost for the SpaceX Falcon rocket and Dragon manned capsule
- About 12% of the entire ARRA bailout package in 2009

The entire thing is just astounding, and that's only the money. The intelligence value to the Chinese, Iranians and Russians is incalculable, and so is the damage it will cause. The humiliation is incalculable. The dead men are truly incalculable.

The military and the administration - especially Milley and whoever is running Joe Biden - have a lot to answer for. They never will answer. They will never even be asked.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2021 04:10 PM (3p5uk)

54 Yep.

And the local McDonald's franchisee who has 7 stores got $2 million.

https://www.federalpay.org/
paycheck-protection-program

Check your locale.

Feeling the Bernie Sanders vibe yet?

Posted by: Golfman at September 14, 2021 04:10 PM (mWUfm)

55 The question becomes why donwe pay income taxes at all?

President 18-1 would shutter the IRS on day 1, destroy all the incomes tax databases, reassign the IRS staff to counting mosquitos in Alaska and tell congress I'm willing to reconsider all of this if they give me a budget that has no deficit on time.

If we are going to just throw play money around why should the members of the productive class be the only ones that take the hit after all?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2021 04:10 PM (DpkTQ)

56 BTW, every fucking GOP sonofabitch that voted to certify the stolen election is just as responsible for this as Biden and his crab lice.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 04:11 PM (o2MD2)

57 Do I get to amortize the $3,400 over the 20 years we were there?

Posted by: Math is hard, F Joe Biden at September 14, 2021 04:11 PM (+nWCH)

58 Hmmm, disallowing maintenance or R&D costs, how much would a nuke cost? Does not have to be huge to have symbolic value, after all.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:11 PM (z4k8L)

59 If the country is financially bankrupt -- which it is, as the only way the national debt gets paid off is via Zimbabwe-like hyperinflation (that also bankrupts us) -- does it really matter?

/We can create $1 quadrillion out of thin air tomorrow, distribute it among all the third world illegal foreign invaders, in the country will be rich!

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 14, 2021 04:11 PM (aGjxg)

60 Speaking of taxes, yesterday Biden tweeted (paraphrase) it's not fair that an oil company pays less taxes than a teacher. We're going to make sure corporations pay their fair share!

Does this still work? Does anyone not see that businesses never pay taxes? I'll say it louder for those in the back:

BUSINESSES NEVER PAY TAXES!

If corporate taxes are raised it is passed on to the consumer of that business' products. If taxes on a Big Mac were raised $1, tomorrow we'd be paying $1 more for a Big Mac.

Why do people still fall for this?

Posted by: 496 at September 14, 2021 04:11 PM (VJsqe)

61 This is old news.

Mistakes were made.
Some people did some things.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
It's time to move on.
The unvaccinated are a threat to us all.

Posted by: DNC & MSM at September 14, 2021 04:11 PM (a3Q+t)

62 I was told ISIS K was going to pay...

Posted by: Sundown Joe Biden at September 14, 2021 04:12 PM (BFydv)

63 Oh, BTW and OT/ I voted earlier. They've moved around all the polling places for some reason. Some of the places for drop boxes don't have one (sccvote.org). And interestingly enough, Waze and Google maps suddenly stopped working. Locally.

When I got to the voting place, there was a line, and they were letting X number in at a time. A very elderly couple (a vet in a wheelchair and his wife) came behind me. She was 70lbs dripping wet. Late 80's my guess. I insisted they go in front of me, so they could get into the A/C building ASAP. Ass in front of me didn't even turn around, but they got in with the next group, which made me happy.

The gal was ecstatic I handed her my voting guide, you'd think I handed her a C note. So she just had to scan and I was done. We have a choice between paper and touch screen. Everybody was going for touch screen. I took paper. "Sharpie or Ballpoint?" Ballpoint, please. go to my little table, 2 seconds later, done. Jerk that was in front of me was still trying to get his touchscreen working on the other side of the room when I was getting my "I voted today!" sticker.

Fingers crossed for CA!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 14, 2021 04:12 PM (wAnMi)

64 TNDeplorable, after watching many Norm McDonald videos I read your post in his cadence and delivery. It worked.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 14, 2021 04:12 PM (AiZBA)

65 Seriously what kind of military hardware can I get for my 340o bucks? Boots?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 14, 2021 04:12 PM (RoIW/)

66 It's Islamophobic to not supply violent radical Muslims with modern weapons.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 14, 2021 04:12 PM (u1eUk)

67 /We can create $1 quadrillion out of thin air tomorrow, distribute it among all the third world illegal foreign invaders, in the country will be rich!
Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 14, 2021 04:11 PM (aGjxg)
++++
Trillion. Dollar. Coin.

Posted by: Asinine 2011-era debt ceiling debate at September 14, 2021 04:12 PM (3p5uk)

68 There is actually more grist for this Mill...the $85Billion is total "Pentagon" expenditures over the last 20 years.
The other number is $2Trillion, which is the total spending in Afghanistan...1/25th of which was Military.
23.5 TIMES more spent on "Nation Building" social programs, infrastructure, education, healthcare, internet/cellphone networks, 'minority outreach/education' programs...the very SAME crap Dems are trying to cram through in the latest $3.5 Trillion spending package to do HERE! Much of it written/designed by the same groups that wrote/designed the Afghan programs, SAME people SAME programs...because it worked sooooo well there. Dems lathered that shit on EVERY Military spending request, every budget(ALL ended up as omnibus Bills, not actually a budget), funneled through their donor/support groups/think tank buddies in "right to the Brink" negotiations facing the risk of "A Govt Shutdown" unless added.

Posted by: jeff at September 14, 2021 04:13 PM (uAI4S)

69 Why do people still fall for this?
Posted by: 496 at September 14, 2021 04:11 PM (VJsqe)

Because people are stupid. Like sound bytes and feels.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:13 PM (z4k8L)

70 Damn, even Col. Bearclaw is calling for Throughly MOdern Milley to resign.

When you've lost Bearclaw...

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 14, 2021 04:13 PM (Bmy3R)

71 If taxes on a Big Mac were raised $1, tomorrow we'd be paying $1 more for a Big Mac.

Just don't tax Royales with fromage.

Posted by: Vinnie Vega at September 14, 2021 04:14 PM (a3Q+t)

72 Did that 63% not pay taxes or did that 63% have more withheld in taxes than was owed?

Posted by: aelfheld at September 14, 2021 04:14 PM (Zy9Yy)

73 "I support a wealth tax. Including inheritance tax"

That's stupid. Inheritance taxes are what keeps family farms from being passed down to the next generation.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at September 14, 2021 04:14 PM (Un/VL)

74 Why do people still fall for this?

Because they're stupid.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at September 14, 2021 04:15 PM (SchxB)

75 Hey, Posobeic is saying the WH is reporting "generals" are willing to testify against Milley.
Think they've realized they need a scapegoat for A-Stan pronto.

Posted by: iblis at September 14, 2021 04:15 PM (abOpZ)

76 If you consider the fact that there is no intention of ever paying the national debt, then it doesn't matter. The question becomes why donwe pay income taxes at all?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 04:07 PM (mdgQ7)


When True the Vote was being harrassed by the IRS, Treytor Gowdy showed his true allegiance by worrying more about Elijah Cumming's fat ass having enough cushions than a government agency shaking down a citizen. I don't know why anyone trusted that fraudulent goof.

Income taxes are a Uniparty reminder of who's in charge.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 14, 2021 04:15 PM (y7DUB)

77 Yeah. People are stupid. That's how we got drooling retard for President.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 04:16 PM (o2MD2)

78 $85B. I'm old enough to remember when they'd say "$XB" and it meant something. Never something good. And thanks to Obummer, a trillion doesn't mean shit to people.

Sometimes it sort of sinks in if you tell them if Jesus started counting to 1 trillion, he'd still be counting. And be done in another 29 thousand years. If he was really, really, really fast. Which I assume he would be.

It's all monopoly money to these assholes, unless it's going to them. Then it suddenly gets super serious yo.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 14, 2021 04:17 PM (wAnMi)

79 Seriously what kind of military hardware can I get for my 340o bucks? Boots?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 14, 2021 04:12 PM


50% of a C5A toilet seat. 47% of a hardened bass ukulele. (Although these are forbidden by the Geneva Convention.)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2021 04:17 PM (a3Q+t)

80 Posobiec claims several top officers want to testify against Milley in his treason trial

https://tinyurl.com/yrjp7zut
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2021 04:05 PM (BFydv)


He could become the fall guy for all Biden's FUs

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 14, 2021 04:17 PM (M+Lyo)

81 65 Seriously what kind of military hardware can I get for my 340o bucks? Boots?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 14, 2021 04:12 PM (RoIW/)

The cheapest Humvee has bidding opening at $3,500. All kinds of good stuff available here.

https://www.govplanet.com/?h=

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 14, 2021 04:17 PM (u1eUk)

82 Same for the family business. Kids have to sell off the furniture company their dad created from nothing just to pay the inheritance tax.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at September 14, 2021 04:18 PM (Un/VL)

83 We don't have to worry about the taliban. Every diddlefuck police department was given an MRAP. You know, to fight terrorists.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 04:18 PM (mdgQ7)

84 In certain parts of sub Sahara Africa you could outfit a fucking company for 3400 smackers. Start your own insurgency.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 04:18 PM (o2MD2)

85
What is with the swarms of sketchy ads cropping up in social media lately to inform "seniors" that you had better get on the stick and and collect your [ insert a figure from multiple hundreds of dollars to thousands of dollars ]? Is this one of Slow Joe's triumphant Guild Gack Getter programs?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 14, 2021 04:19 PM (pNxlR)

86 Grenell defending Miley is kind of odd. Milley publicly said he thought Trump was possibly planning a coup

Posted by: steevy at September 14, 2021 04:19 PM (CYnTg)

87 1/2 the country pays no tax so it's actually double per person.

And fuuuuuuuck about Norm. That is some sad shit.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 14, 2021 04:19 PM (GQ5VU)

88 50% of a C5A toilet seat. 47% of a hardened bass ukulele. (Although these are forbidden by the Geneva Convention.)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2021 04:17 PM (a3Q+t)


They needed tough toilet seats to stand up to the loadmasters.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 04:19 PM (mdgQ7)

89 73 "I support a wealth tax. Including inheritance tax"

That's stupid. Inheritance taxes are what keeps family farms from being passed down to the next generation.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at September 14, 2021 04:14 PM (Un/VL)

In fairness, he qualified.

Posted by: Golfman at September 14, 2021 04:19 PM (mWUfm)

90 He could become the fall guy for all Biden's FUs
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 14, 2021 04:17 PM (M+Lyo)


I'm fine with a scapegoat, but it's only appetizers. It's going to take some serious amounts of rope and lead for me to be satiated.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 14, 2021 04:19 PM (wAnMi)

91
I don't know why anyone trusted that fraudulent goof.

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I tried pointing out a few times that Gowdy is a punkass shill with stupid hair. It always really rankled the #TwoWeeks types, and I could never figure out why. This is the career prosecutor who said Trump should submit to questioning from Mueller so he didn't "look guilty."

I mean, the dude was like "man, I really wish Trump would just walk into a perjury trap, contra advice any person would receive from an L1 intern. For his own good, of course."

How did people not see he was a scumbag? That one was just confusing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 04:20 PM (FvCkv)

92 FJB is the modern Wolverines!

Posted by: A dude in MI at September 14, 2021 04:20 PM (/6GbT)

93 $340 should get you a slightly used 9mm

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 04:20 PM (2JoB8)

94 Well yeah, prosecutor

Posted by: steevy at September 14, 2021 04:20 PM (CYnTg)

95 Womens programs, arts programs, public art spaces, dance/music, flower arranging..Mass Transit...recycling, green energy, anti pollution, spay/neuter strays programs...birth control/abortion programs...Legal Aid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdrvpSfJM1w&t=43s
There is a video of the taliban touring an arms depot that was abandoned to them...as well as the weapons, there are entire pallets of cash, multiple pallets of brand new $100 bills.

Posted by: jeff at September 14, 2021 04:21 PM (uAI4S)

96 What is with the swarms of sketchy ads cropping up in social media lately to inform "seniors" that you had better get on the stick and and collect your [ insert a figure from multiple hundreds of dollars to thousands of dollars ]? Is this one of Slow Joe's triumphant Guild Gack Getter programs?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 14, 2021

Simple. Grift for Silicon Valley.

Quid pro quo.

Posted by: Golfman at September 14, 2021 04:21 PM (mWUfm)

97 58 Hmmm, disallowing maintenance or R&D costs, how much would a nuke cost?

$20, same as downtown

Posted by: Loral Aerospace at September 14, 2021 04:21 PM (oY6Yp)

98 Looks like we're importing measles. I guess since Covid is no big deal for kids, it only makes sense we should bring over a disease that is fairly deadly to them.

https://bit.ly/3k6iQpr

Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2021 04:22 PM (UW2ZS)

99 Still watching Norm clips, missing him, missing the Republic.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 14, 2021 04:22 PM (XvPQV)

100 I am in favor of inheritance taxes on investments over $5 million at 100%. Grandpa Gates built up a billion dollar fortune? It becomes the states on death. Because fuck him.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 04:22 PM (mdgQ7)

101 What did Pelosi know and when did she know it?

Posted by: I mean at September 14, 2021 04:23 PM (sQq+E)

102 Every body in California must votes for Governer Nelston because that's Eldrige guy is a racist and hated persons of coller.

Posted by: Mary Cloginstien from Brattleboro, VT at September 14, 2021 04:23 PM (c/Cmx)

103
When you've lost Bearclaw...
Posted by: Guy Smiley


... your lifetime pass to pastry bars is revoked

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 14, 2021 04:23 PM (pNxlR)

104 That's stupid. Inheritance taxes are what keeps family farms from being passed down to the next generation.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at September 14, 2021 04:14 PM (Un/VL)

It's the same for other businesses. If you want to make sure no mid size corporations ever challenge the big established companies, just make sure the founders have to sell so there's less competition. Either you grow to a nationwide chain in a few decades or forget it.

Then there's the wealth tax. Would Steve Jobs have been forced to sell out his ownership share of Apple long before the Iphone existed? Yeah, probably.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 14, 2021 04:23 PM (u1eUk)

105 You have to tactically train with that left equipment to use it properly, like a fucking lot actually, so a great deal of this stuff is just going to be wasted on societies that can't even provide modern waste and septic sewer services to their own militaries.

I get it that we shouldn't leave modern hardware to savages as the odds that someone can or will use it correctly, while low, is not less than 2%. But giving them to the Chinese or the Soviets who can't even build modern dam systems that the US did in the fucking '30's is not going to redound much to their favor and our lack of security. But still, there was zero reason to do it...


Posted by: Boswell at September 14, 2021 04:23 PM (5iUNf)

106 I want TN's booze budget. That's some top shelf sloshed right there. *hides bottle of Val-U-Rite on the counter*

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at September 14, 2021 04:24 PM (F0YaR)

107 How does Mary post while face down in her own alcoholic vomit?

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:24 PM (L2ZTs)

108 All of our tax bills should be broken out by what it will go for--based on what we are spending not what we are collecting.

Posted by: Ian Deal at September 14, 2021 04:24 PM (L+7Ct)

109 "the top 50% of wage earners pay approximately 95% of all taxes. ... $3400"
... BUT, most of the top 50% is paid by people in the top 10% ...
AND most of that is debt, that will either be defaulted on, or paid by the children, in inflated money. ... By the time it is paid (printed QE money at 0%) $3400 will but 34 loaves of bread ...

The answer ... buy booze and bullets now. It will hold value. Hide most of it so when the next emergency requires you hoarders must share .. you can share from your small stash, not the hidden big stash.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 14, 2021 04:24 PM (Cus5s)

110 How did people not see he was a scumbag? That one was just confusing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 04:20 PM (FvCkv)


Sometimes when you resemble a HeeHaw stunt double, looks aren't deceiving.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 14, 2021 04:24 PM (y7DUB)

111 100 I am in favor of inheritance taxes on investments over $5 million at 100%. Grandpa Gates built up a billion dollar fortune? It becomes the states on death. Because fuck him.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 04:22 PM (mdgQ7)

You would kill any modern family farm, or small business.

5 Million ain't what it used to be.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 14, 2021 04:25 PM (oHd/0)

112 107 How does Mary post while face down in her own alcoholic vomit?
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:24 PM (L2ZTs)

Text to speech?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 14, 2021 04:25 PM (XvPQV)

113 Mark, in that case Mary must have a killer app. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:25 PM (L2ZTs)

114 Fiscal numbers are smoke and mirror. The only real number will be the zero when it all crashes down. Only then will we know where everything stands.

Posted by: Minuteman at September 14, 2021 04:25 PM (OW0p4)

115 I am in favor of inheritance taxes on investments over $5 million at 100%. Grandpa Gates built up a billion dollar fortune? It becomes the states on death. Because fuck him.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 04:22 PM (mdgQ7)


While hating Bill Gates is morally right, I don't get the rationale for an inheritance tax. The state should have the money...just because? Whatever they couldn't take from you during your life, we'll now take from your kids because we can? I'd prefer if we all stole Gates' money, but I don't want the state to get a cut.

Posted by: Wally at September 14, 2021 04:25 PM (FJYfm)

116 BUY 34 loaves of bread, not but

Posted by: illiniwek at September 14, 2021 04:25 PM (Cus5s)

117 107 How does Mary post while face down in her own alcoholic vomit?
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:24 PM (L2ZTs)

She wears a snorkel. Right through the vomit soaked face diaper.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 04:26 PM (o2MD2)

118 Biden's ancestors owned slaves.

https://bit.ly/39dR8kd

Didn't we find out early on that Obama's ancestors on his dad's side were slavers?

Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2021 04:26 PM (UW2ZS)

119 But consider... so many of the lefties these days *are* the super-rich. And I have a hard time caring if lefties get soaked.

**************

The left don't tax the rich, they tax people to keep them from GETTING rich.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at September 14, 2021 04:26 PM (hQVBP)

120 Xipe, better be a long snorkel

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:26 PM (L2ZTs)

121 Posted by: Boswell at September 14, 2021 04:23 PM (5iUNf)

Uh, we spent 20 years training afghans with that exact equipment.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 14, 2021 04:26 PM (oHd/0)

122
I'd prefer if we all stole Gates' money, but I don't want the state to get a cut.
Posted by: Wally at September 14, 2021 04:25 PM (FJYfm)

This is why when I am king there will be a long list of individuals for whom I'll write Letters of Marque and Reprisal.* It will be the Day of the Land Pirate.

*This is more or less what Ivan did in fact do to the boyars - if an Oprichnik killed a boyar, he got their shit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 04:28 PM (FvCkv)

123 Who do you think was flying the choppers? The people we trained will train the Taliban.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 04:28 PM (o2MD2)

124 I'm all in on the Dem plan to tax the rich. Fuck it, go big or go small. I want every CEO of a Fortune 100 company to get fucked good and hard, get lubed and then get fucked some more. They wanted this.

And before anyone jumps in with "but muhCorporationsDontPayTaxes", yes I agree. I want the individual CEOs to get taxed, not corps.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 14, 2021 04:28 PM (GQ5VU)

125 Looks like we're importing measles. I guess since Covid is no big deal for kids, it only makes sense we should bring over a disease that is fairly deadly to them.
https://bit.ly/3k6iQpr
Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2021 04:22 PM (UW2ZS)


Well, the measles coming from Honduras and Guatemala are kinda meh. Same with the chicken pox and mumps. So maybe we can get some good ones from the middle east? Funny how the media just doesn't notice the diseases that were sweeping through the schools. And now that we've got a million new residents from central America, we'll probably have some really special new shit for the kids. So the Afghanis had better bring their game.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 14, 2021 04:29 PM (wAnMi)

126 99 Still watching Norm clips,

This one really hurts.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 14, 2021 04:29 PM (Bmy3R)

127 Joe XiDen, I've been saying for years that Repubs should have the IRS full-on assrape all of Hollywood, both the studios and the celebs.

They'll run to Canada or China, but I don't GAF.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:30 PM (L2ZTs)

128
Bannerman is now working on a genealogy for first lady Jill Biden.


It's whores all the way down.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 14, 2021 04:30 PM (pNxlR)

129 Fuck Jorge Bush? I like it. Kind of fits.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:31 PM (z4k8L)

130 The amount spent on training these mentally handicapped sexually perverted smelly disgusting Moslems is probably double that. They fired 3 shots, by accident, when the gun was dropped on semi-auto with the safety off. That was $30 billion per bullet.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 14, 2021 04:31 PM (vN+oL)

131 Bannerman is now working on a genealogy for first lady Jill Biden.

It's whores all the way down.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 14, 2021 04:30 PM (pNxlR)

That's DOCTOR Jill Biden peon.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 04:32 PM (o2MD2)

132 If... big if... the story about Milley is true he'll be lionized by congress and not resign.

OrangeManBad

He honestly sounds deranged. Someone needs to put a bullet....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2021 04:32 PM (BFigT)

133
Has Hunter Biden gotten caught for some new crime yet? Just curious... it feels like it's been awhile.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 04:32 PM (FvCkv)

134 Wrote day 1 the Taliban has willing flying instructors in Pakistan and China

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 04:33 PM (2JoB8)

135 Already found in the Jill Biden family tree:

- Rachel Carson
- Belle Gunness
- Elizabeth Bathory

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:33 PM (L2ZTs)

136 Joe XiDen, I've been saying for years that Repubs should have the IRS full-on assrape all of Hollywood, both the studios and the celebs.

They'll run to Canada or China, but I don't GAF.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:30 PM (L2ZTs)

The states are to blame, too. Many of them have offered big "incentives" to film there. Then, like with Georgia, they turn on you as soon as you try to do something like stop voter fraud. Screw 'em. They're rich. Take away their tax breaks.

Posted by: Wally at September 14, 2021 04:33 PM (FJYfm)

137 "While hating Bill Gates is morally right, I don't get the rationale for an inheritance tax. The state should have the money...just because?"

People that earned their wealth by being Good/Productive Citizens should be able to pass it on to their well raised children (or whomever).
People the bribed/stole/schemed from and harmed others to attain their riches should be imprisoned now, and have all that wealth given to ? those harmed.

How to decide which are good guys? Well we can just let our pure government decide. But really ... Legacy blue bloods are often very corrupt, and it is becoming clear they would kill off half of America and billions more to keep their wealth and power, if they could. And they would do it stealthily ... like they are doing now.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 14, 2021 04:33 PM (Cus5s)

138
If DOCTOR Jill Biden isn't a direct descendant of Elena Ceausescu, I'll be stunned. They are basically the same woman.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 04:34 PM (FvCkv)

139 Wally, exactly.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:34 PM (L2ZTs)

140 I saw somewhere that the talis are using their new artillery and 70 mm rocket mortars to good effect in conquering that one rebellious province.

Even if their aim ain't as good, hey, the ammo is free and plentiful. Fire away. And I'll furthermore guess that their rules of engagement are simple -- If it moves, try to kill it.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at September 14, 2021 04:34 PM (F0YaR)

141 But yeah, if you want your food supply controlled by some china megacorp, inheritance taxes will certainly get you there

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at September 14, 2021 04:35 PM (Un/VL)

142 "While hating Bill Gates is morally right, I don't get the rationale for an inheritance tax. The state should have the money...just because?"


He should have all his money confiscated for "Vista"

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 14, 2021 04:35 PM (M+Lyo)

143 118 Biden's ancestors owned slaves.

https://bit.ly/39dR8kd

Didn't we find out early on that Obama's ancestors on his dad's side were slavers?
Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2021 04:26 PM (UW2ZS)

Would not surprise me. On my Dad's side the first guy to move to Indiana was a Virginian. Per my uncle (who has researched the family tree, a hobby of him and my Dad) he owned at least two slaves in Virginia. Means absolutely nothing to me. Neither does Obama's ancestors. He is an asshole all in his own right.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:36 PM (z4k8L)

144 >>Bannerman is now working on a genealogy for first lady Jill Biden.

Tough to fit an entire football team in one slot on the chart.

Posted by: Aviator at September 14, 2021 04:36 PM (HQ9Sl)

145
Functionally illiterate? Check.

Fake doctor? Check.

Hand up the ass of a senile Commie puppet? Yup.

She's Elena's daughter. Genealogy complete.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 04:36 PM (FvCkv)

146 > Funny how the media just doesn't notice the diseases that were sweeping through the schools.

They notice, but as they always do, they blame people they don't like. They blame anti-vaxxers. If you use any social media where average people comment, you'll see they've been incredibly effective with their messaging. You'll see people commenting about outbreaks of measles, mumps, whatever, and they'll ALL blame anti-vaxxers. Nobody will bring up illegals at all.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2021 04:37 PM (UW2ZS)

147 Tough to fit an entire football team in one slot on the chart.
Posted by: Aviator at September 14, 2021 04:36 PM (HQ9Sl)

Especially hard if it is multiple entries...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:37 PM (z4k8L)

148 Speaking of taxes, yesterday Biden tweeted (paraphrase) it's not fair that an oil company pays less taxes than a teacher. We're going to make sure corporations pay their fair share!

Want to watch a Dem or BernOut scream bloody murder? Ask them to define "fair share." Not just use the rhetoric, but give an actual, working number. If they don't sputter out some economic incoherence, they accuse you of being a shill for "millionaires and billionaires."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 14, 2021 04:37 PM (2JVJo)

149 There is nothing like a good Rupert Holmes song... including any Rupert Holmes song.

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2021 04:37 PM (XHhHI)

150 'How to decide which are good guys"

What gives you the right to make that call?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at September 14, 2021 04:37 PM (Un/VL)

151 That's stupid. Inheritance taxes are what keeps family farms from being passed down to the next generation.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur

That's how Warren Buffet got started. He identified family owned companies where the founder owners were getting long in the tooth. Bought them out on the cheap after pointing out that federal and some state death taxes could reach 70%.

Posted by: Miklos, with point of reference at September 14, 2021 04:38 PM (QzkSJ)

152 > Per my uncle (who has researched the family tree, a hobby of him and my Dad) he owned at least two slaves in Virginia. Means absolutely nothing to me. Neither does Obama's ancestors. He is an asshole all in his own right.

Sure, I agree. But second only to abortion, the left is obsessed with slavery and their conviction that it's America's original sin that can only be purged by fully embracing communism.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2021 04:38 PM (UW2ZS)

153 Tax the rich is a Marxist slogan, if rich are not paying what they owe let the Leftists at IRS go the fk after them.

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 04:38 PM (2JoB8)

154 150 'How to decide which are good guys"

What gives you the right to make that call?
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at September 14, 2021 04:37 PM (Un/VL)

My right as a human being?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:39 PM (z4k8L)

155 Millions of the bottom 47% get earned income credit on top of paying no taxes.

Posted by: torabora at September 14, 2021 04:39 PM (9rCH/)

156 Sure, I agree. But second only to abortion, the left is obsessed with slavery and their conviction that it's America's original sin that can only be purged by fully embracing communism.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2021 04:38 PM (UW2ZS)

Granted. That guy does sound like an asshole. Again, per research, his nickname was 'Copperhead'. Sounds like a perfect democrat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:40 PM (z4k8L)

157
My right as a human being?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:39 PM (z4k8L)

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnJFPMcq5Is

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 04:40 PM (FvCkv)

158 He is an asshole all in his own right.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:36 PM (z4k8L)

This is important. The sins of the father are not visited upon the son.

There is some old book that talks a lot about it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 14, 2021 04:41 PM (Q9lwr)

159 Not sure whether to trust Grenell. Does the story ring true because Milley is a cunt? Or are we over villainizing the enemy? Does it matter? Probably not.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:42 PM (z4k8L)

160 In this current climate, you will pull my booze budget from my cold dead hands.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 14, 2021 04:42 PM (okGHj)

161 "Millions of the bottom 47% get earned income credit on top of paying no taxes."

The vast amount of money the government spends is impossible to sustain. I'm surprised it goes on but there you go. I guess if you control everything including printing money the sky's the limit.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:42 PM (Tnijr)

162 This is important. The sins of the father are not visited upon the son.

There is some old book that talks a lot about it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 14, 2021 04:41 PM (Q9lwr)

Probably written by old white racist Jews. /s

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:42 PM (z4k8L)

163 They are all assholes. Shun every last one of them, and let God sort 'em out later.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 14, 2021 04:43 PM (okGHj)

164 The rich will always find tax breaks, and if they can’t, they’ll buy tax breaks. The easy thing is to say “raise taxes on the rich”, but the people who end up paying those taxes will be you and me. The rich will get out of it.

The hard thing is to end the breaks, subsidies, and loopholes that make such corruption possible. The rich don’t seem to fight higher taxes much, but they fight tooth and nail any attempt to remove the complexity that lets them cheat.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 14, 2021 04:43 PM (CX3cf)

165 Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnJFPMcq5Is
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 04:40 PM (FvCkv)

Dennis Leary? I am at work and working off my hotspot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:43 PM (z4k8L)

166 Been off the computer today. Just saw on CT that Lt. Col Bearclaw tweeted today that General Milley must resign if the story of him calling Bejing is true as he broke the chain of command, blah blah.

The Pillsbury doughboy is calling for Milley's resignation over him defying Trump.

These people are amazing.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 14, 2021 04:43 PM (bI9Li)

167
Dennis Leary? I am at work and working off my hotspot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:43 PM (z4k8L)

Nope, Screeching Weasel.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 04:44 PM (FvCkv)

168 Saw footage the other night of Tallyban in American gear, driving our Humvees and MRAPS. Fucking pissed me off.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 14, 2021 04:44 PM (zSipp)

169 Shouldn't there be a credit for those who actually, you know, work for a living? The producers should get a break from supporting the takers. At some point, this will become true whether the powers that be like it or not.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 14, 2021 04:44 PM (okGHj)

170 The Pillsbury doughboy is calling for Milley's resignation over him defying Trump.

These people are amazing.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 14, 2021 04:43 PM (bI9Li)

Hard to keep their stories straight.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:44 PM (z4k8L)

171 There may be a little theater about raising the debt limit but they will do it anyway because they can.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:45 PM (Tnijr)

172 166 Been off the computer today. Just saw on CT that Lt. Col Bearclaw tweeted today that General Milley must resign if the story of him calling Bejing is true as he broke the chain of command, blah blah.

The Pillsbury doughboy is calling for Milley's resignation over him defying Trump.

These people are amazing.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 14, 2021 04:43 PM (bI9Li)

That fat fuck wouldn't know what chain-of-command means if it bit him in his oversized backside.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 14, 2021 04:45 PM (okGHj)

173 And they have too to keep the grift going.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:46 PM (Tnijr)

174 Milley is a traitor and a thief.

He took the last donut.

THE LAST DONUT

THAT I WAS SAVING FOR AFTER THE SECOND TO LAST DONUT

Posted by: Lt. Col. Bearclaw at September 14, 2021 04:46 PM (QzkSJ)

175 to not toooo

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:46 PM (Tnijr)

176 173 And they have too to keep the grift going.
Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:46 PM (Tnijr)

They have to to keep the whole system going forward. To insulate from consequences. That is how all of this has happened: people have been insulated from the consequences of their actions.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:47 PM (z4k8L)

177 Now I want donuts.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:47 PM (z4k8L)

178 Uh, we spent 20 years training afghans with that exact equipment.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 14, 2021 04:26 PM (oHd/0)

Um no - they could not even use it to efficiently to defend themselves, otherwise we'd have turned it over to them years ago and left. This isn't the Saudis...

Posted by: Boswell at September 14, 2021 04:47 PM (5iUNf)

179 Norm Macdonald on Hillary Clinton

https://tinyurl.com/tac7j2ne

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2021 04:47 PM (BFydv)

180 But..... But...... But....... Trump lied about Obama !!!!

Posted by: James at September 14, 2021 04:48 PM (24+Vp)

181 Donuts would be nice but I'm sure to be disappointed like every other place I've been lately.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:48 PM (Tnijr)

182 178 Uh, we spent 20 years training afghans with that exact equipment.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 14, 2021 04:26 PM (oHd/0)

Um no - they could not even use it to efficiently to defend themselves, otherwise we'd have turned it over to them years ago and left. This isn't the Saudis...

Posted by: Boswell at September 14, 2021 04:47 PM (5iUNf)

'If the student has not learned, the teacher has not taught.'

Or the student is a complete dumbass... or the enemy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:49 PM (z4k8L)

183 So Milley must think he is James Mattoon Scott ???

Posted by: James at September 14, 2021 04:50 PM (24+Vp)

184
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 14, 2021 04:50 PM (DUIap)

185 181 Donuts would be nice but I'm sure to be disappointed like every other place I've been lately.
Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:48 PM (Tnijr)

I need to find out if the place that opens up at 2am near here during the week managed to syrvive the Chinese Lung AIDS. Owned by an... asian guy (not sure of the provenance.) Nicest, happiest guy I have ever seen slinging donuts. Even at 3am.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:50 PM (z4k8L)

186 I could set my expectations really low and get some of those little powdered donuts. That way I won't be disappointed.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:51 PM (Tnijr)

187 118 Biden's ancestors owned slaves.
===================

The Biden family has ducked work for many generations, forcing others to pay their costs. Not much different now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2021 04:51 PM (BFydv)

188 Those helicopters and planes will make great goat sheds and rape huts, and goat rape sheds.

Posted by: brak at September 14, 2021 04:51 PM (I4hmj)

189 186 I could set my expectations really low and get some of those little powdered donuts. That way I won't be disappointed.
Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:51 PM (Tnijr)

This guy makes the best glazed I have ever had. Not too heavy on the icing, with a buttery texture to them that is inspired. Awesome donuts, made right there in the store.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:52 PM (z4k8L)

190 That Milley isn't already in irons is amazing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2021 04:52 PM (BFydv)

191 I noticed they stopped construction on a Dunkin Donuts about 10 miles from here. No activity for a couple of months. The store is up but the lot is still unpaved.

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:52 PM (Tnijr)

192 I want my money back.

Posted by: wth at September 14, 2021 04:52 PM (v0R5T)

193 Socrates said that sometimes you can only instruct will a staff.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 14, 2021 04:52 PM (/hXfz)

194 That Milley isn't already in irons is amazing.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2021 04:52 PM (BFydv)


And ruin his fishnet stockings?? The horror!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2021 04:53 PM (L2ZTs)

195 I just saw that poor bastard from Good Times doing a commercial for 'free government money.' Even worked in Dy-no-mite!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:53 PM (z4k8L)

196 Someday I want to see a Marxist put down by official means.

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 04:53 PM (2JoB8)

197 Posobiec claims several top officers want to testify against Milley in his treason trial

https://tinyurl.com/yrjp7zut
Posted by: Huck Follywood


It's like the Mirror Universe Star Trek, now.

If Milley goes down, they all move up.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 14, 2021 04:53 PM (vcOmj)

198 182 'If the student has not learned, the teacher has not taught.'

my friend the logic professor hated being called a teacher. "that assumes there's learning going on," he'd say.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at September 14, 2021 04:53 PM (v3pYe)

199 Surprised he has not tried to suck start a 1911.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:53 PM (z4k8L)

200 Milley = One of those South American Generals with millions of medals and ribbons on his chest......

Posted by: James at September 14, 2021 04:53 PM (24+Vp)

201 I could set my expectations really low and get some of those little powdered donuts. That way I won't be disappointed.
Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 04:51 PM


Go big or go home. This isn't the Boy Scouts!

Posted by: LTC Vindman at September 14, 2021 04:54 PM (a3Q+t)

202 "My right as a human being?"

Not good enough. if you think you have a right to judge whether other people deserve to keep what they make, I can recommend some very fine left-wing blogs you would enjoy oh the back of

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at September 14, 2021 04:54 PM (Un/VL)

203 196 Someday I want to see a Marxist put down by official means.
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 04:53 PM (2JoB

I want to see Marxism treated, correctly, like Nazism before I die.

Lord, hear my prayer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:54 PM (z4k8L)

204 f'd could be lots of things, permits, funding, a few things.
We often finish projects and month later still vacant.

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 04:55 PM (2JoB8)

205 Or the student is a complete dumbass... or the enemy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:49 PM (z4k8L)

Okay, I get it. But to train a US Naval engineman to be P-fired boiler tech in the US Navy took decades of development of the systems to understand it and two years of intense training onboard - and all of these knuckleheads still needed some non-com with 10 years of experience to lead them and teach them as they learned along with a Chief Engineering Officer who over saw the division with an advance degree in Naval Engineering - we weren't going to resurrect that type of knowledge and experience in 20 years on the most advanced aircraft technology known to man to a primitive culture - period.

Posted by: Boswell at September 14, 2021 04:55 PM (5iUNf)

206 Not good enough. if you think you have a right to judge whether other people deserve to keep what they make, I can recommend some very fine left-wing blogs you would enjoy oh the back of
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at September 14, 2021 04:54 PM (Un/VL)

Not about whether they keep their money. However, I can decide whether someone is a piece of shit or not all on my own, thanks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:55 PM (z4k8L)

207 195 I just saw that poor bastard from Good Times doing a commercial for 'free government money.' Even worked in Dy-no-mite!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 04:53 PM (z4k8L

Yeah, that guy is such a has been I had forgotten he even existed. Time to die.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 04:55 PM (o2MD2)

208 According to a DM article, the US gave the Taliban $65 million in aide. They are asking the US to 'have a heart' and send more.

Posted by: Cheri at September 14, 2021 04:55 PM (oiNtH)

209 200 Milley = One of those South American Generals with millions of medals and ribbons on his chest......

...


Hold our Soju.

Posted by: North Korean Generals at September 14, 2021 04:56 PM (oUWsz)

210 So we have Professor John Gill (Patterns of Force) as the US POTUS and ....

Also we have General James Mattoon Scott (7 Days in May) as CJCS...

Just F**king Lovely.... The Three Stooges could run the Government better !!!!!!!!

Posted by: James at September 14, 2021 04:57 PM (24+Vp)

211
What the Taliban needs to do is take some American captives, by whatever means, and just tell the Admin that they'll execute them on TV unless we give them a trillion dollars. The planes would be wheels-up in a matter of days.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 04:58 PM (FvCkv)

212 95 I just saw that poor bastard from Good Times doing a commercial for 'free government money.' Even worked in Dy-no-mite!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September

Yea, whenever I see Joe Namath hawking for this and how he added to his social security benefits, I always think "Hmmm, don't you have an NFL pension that takes care of everything along with the millions you made?"

Posted by: Cheri at September 14, 2021 04:58 PM (oiNtH)

213 Pelosi cheered on Milleys treason and tried to get the Pentagon to arrest Trump

https://tinyurl.com/3374mx2u

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2021 04:58 PM (BFydv)

214 Tolkien movie was on but only caught end, can't seem to catch it from beginning.

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 04:59 PM (2JoB8)

215 Pelosi hates Trump for canceling her little junket to Africa and taking her bus away.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 04:59 PM (o2MD2)

216 " The Three Stooges could run the Government better !!!!!!!!"

As I recall, the country was called "Moronika".

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 05:00 PM (Tnijr)

217
Just F**king Lovely.... The Three Stooges could run the Government better !!!!!!!!
Posted by: James

I would like to see Moe Howard roaming the capitol building randomly but frequently distributing slaps and eye pokes

Posted by: Miklos2025! at September 14, 2021 05:00 PM (QzkSJ)

218 What the Taliban needs to do is take some American captives, by whatever means, and just tell the Admin that they'll execute them on TV unless we give them a trillion dollars. The planes would be wheels-up in a matter of days.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

That may have already happened. They just asked for $64 Million. Going once, going twice.....
And "no one" really knows how many Americans are still there....because they didn't want to leave.
Sure.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 14, 2021 05:01 PM (vcOmj)

219 Pelosi cheered on Milleys treason and tried to get the Pentagon to arrest Trump

https://tinyurl.com/3374mx2u
Posted by: Huck Follywood


Tell me she broke federal law somewhere.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2021 05:01 PM (OCTRt)

220 Three Stooges - I'll Never Heil Again"

Their country, Moronika, has as its slogan, "Moronika for Morons,"

Posted by: f'd at September 14, 2021 05:02 PM (Tnijr)

221 I could set my expectations really low and get some of those little powdered donuts.
------------
Just remember not to breath in when you take a bite.

Posted by: dartist at September 14, 2021 05:02 PM (+ya+t)

222 I had Donettes after my BBQ chicken sandwich. Come in a pack of six, they're awesome.

Posted by: wth at September 14, 2021 05:02 PM (v0R5T)

223 >we weren't going to resurrect that type of knowledge and experience in 20 years on the most advanced aircraft technology known to man to a primitive culture - period.

---

Another 20 years of this, and it's no longer going to exist in our culture either.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at September 14, 2021 05:03 PM (0Uf+z)

224 Tolkien movie was on but only caught end, can't seem to catch it from beginning.
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 04:59 PM


Spoiler: Sauron was misunderstood, and trying to turn his life around.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2021 05:03 PM (a3Q+t)

225 > This is important. The sins of the father are not visited upon the son.

There is some old book that talks a lot about it.

"Old book" being the point. It's a bit out of date I think. Religion won't be the salve for this. Hope I'm wrong... but I seldom is.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2021 05:04 PM (BFigT)

226 I had Donettes after my BBQ chicken sandwich. Come in a pack of six, they're awesome.

Lunch today was orange rum cake. Also, there wasn’t enough rum left in the bottle to justify putting it back in the pantry. So I finished that off, too.

Lunch was good today.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 14, 2021 05:04 PM (CX3cf)

227 So, does a whistleblower have a transcript of the phone call between miley and the chi coms? Or didn't miley commit the cardinal sin of maybe insinuating a quid pro quo.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 05:05 PM (mdgQ7)

228 Pelosi hates Trump for canceling her little junket to Africa and taking her bus away.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 04:59 PM (o2MD2)


That felt like an assassination attempt. Dunno why, just did.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2021 05:06 PM (ssx3L)

229 My dad - who was a Marine fighter pilot in Nam - told me something important, in civilian life taking off and landing is the scariest thing you will do, in war its the bottom of the list of scary.

Thus, leaving behind aircraft that the Taliban or Iran or the Soviets equipment that will take decades of study and killing pilots to operate at full capacity is dumb, but not an immediate killer. Its a scandal that we did that and heads ought to roll...but its going to take many decades for even the Soviets and the CCP to figure out how to tactically utilize them.

Posted by: Boswell at September 14, 2021 05:06 PM (5iUNf)

230 Sundowner administration will protect and hide any information on Miley

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 05:07 PM (2JoB8)

231 >>>There is no data about this on the IRS website, but there was a recent report that 63% of filers owed no taxes (and probably got money back to boot).

>I pay taxes every year and when I file, I owe no taxes because I overpay. And when I run the numbers and file my returns, I usually get money back to boot.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 14, 2021 05:07 PM (qeLug)

232 "Not about whether they keep their money. However, I can decide whether someone is a piece of shit or not all on my own, thanks."

Priceless.

Hey, that waiter is a real dick to his girlfriend. Good thing you are here to judge him and decide if he gets to keep his tips LOL

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at September 14, 2021 05:07 PM (Un/VL)

233
When Trump stole Congress' short-bus I laughed all day. The looks on those faces was hilarious. Plus the look on that horrendous medical oddity Pelosi calls a face.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2021 05:07 PM (FvCkv)

234 Klinger the sins of the father are put on the son, Wolf gets caught paying for his father somehow

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 05:09 PM (2JoB8)

235 Its a scandal that we did that and heads ought to roll...but its going to take many decades for even the Soviets and the CCP to figure out how to tactically utilize them.
Posted by: Boswell at September 14, 2021 05:06 PM (5iUNf)
......

Too bad John McCain isn't still alive, we could send him over there to train them. To fly.
Ha ha

Posted by: wth at September 14, 2021 05:09 PM (v0R5T)

236 If the father spent his life making money, and spending money to elect democrats who would enslave us to a fascist system because it was better for his investments, fuck him and fuck his sons when he dies. You wanted a big fascist government, get it good and hard.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 05:09 PM (mdgQ7)

237 We willowed?

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 05:09 PM (2JoB8)

238 I think the Russians have that experience, but I doubt the Chinese do. They haven't had a lot of need for high end combat air since they mostly deal with 3rd world brushfire conflicts. Maybe they have simulators and elan, but that may have its limits

Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2021 05:10 PM (ssx3L)

239 Yep

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 05:10 PM (2JoB8)

240
Thus, leaving behind aircraft that the Taliban or Iran or the Soviets equipment that will take decades of study and killing pilots to operate at full capacity is dumb, but not an immediate killer. Its a scandal that we did that and heads ought to roll...but its going to take many decades for even the Soviets and the CCP to figure out how to tactically utilize them.

Posted by: Boswell at September 14, 2021 05:06 PM


what they'll learn from that hardware will advance soviet military aviation by at least a decade almost over night

it'll be a twenty year leap forward for the chicoms

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 14, 2021 05:10 PM (DUIap)

241 237 We willowed?
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2021 05:09 PM (2JoB

Yes. There is a nood up there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2021 05:10 PM (z4k8L)

242 236 If the father spent his life making money, and spending money to elect democrats who would enslave us to a fascist system because it was better for his investments, fuck him and fuck his sons when he dies. You wanted a big fascist government, get it good and hard.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 05:09 PM (mdgQ7

That's a good idea. Dig the old shitbird up and ship to shitholistan.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2021 05:11 PM (o2MD2)

243 The CCP probably has agents in every company that designs and builds our military hardware. Most of it is made in china. Breakthrough research with military implications? CCP was at the university or directly collaborated with the professor.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 05:11 PM (mdgQ7)

244 Plus the Chinese won't be able to see over the dashboard.

Posted by: wth at September 14, 2021 05:11 PM (v0R5T)

245 They have MyPillows to sit on.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 14, 2021 05:13 PM (mdgQ7)

246 Sorry, i was away.

My support for inheritance tax is limited to my support for income tax, which I think should be low enough not to distort the economy. So maybe 20% max, and that includes all the bullshit SSI, FICA, etc. which is just regressive taxation. I also support generous deductions.

I mean, I hate all taxation but I accept that it has to come from somewhere. Right now it comes from earnings. Why does it make sense to tax people trying to make money, and not people who inherit it? It makes no sense.

The problem with family businesses and farms is that the other tax burdens are too high. If they were lower the business could pay the loan necessary to pass it down to next generation. Face it, a business that can't pay a mortgage for 20% of the capital passed down is already dead.

Yeah, I know my ideas are quixotic and will never happen.
Oh man, don't get me started on taxes. sorry.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 14, 2021 05:13 PM (C2Pdl)

247 Wealth tax is a problem because it was already taxed multiple times. It was taxed when the corporation earned a profit. It was taxed when the employee was paid his salary. It was taxed when the wealth was purchased. it was probably taxed a few other times that I can't think of. A wealth tax is the only tax worse than income tax and income tax is an absolute disaster.

Posted by: DrEvil007 at September 14, 2021 06:05 PM (ckzSl)

248 This bothers me, a lot. Other than Anna Wintour forcing the servants who kowtow to the elites to wear masks, AOC shows that in the Communist-Democrat regime, Democrats fully intend on making more money than ever. They are setting themselves to be the ONLY ones who make money. They will be the our Politburo, similar to Putin's crew who worked with him in the St. Petersburg mayor's office.
AOC fully intends on being a billionaire, just as Ed Markey and Bernie Sanders do.

Posted by: william ferrin at September 14, 2021 06:07 PM (DT67g)

249 Pet peeve- The US runs deficits every year. We are now $28 trillion in debt. Why are we sending out foreign aid? Foreign aid should be from a surplus. Sending countries money every year helps them as much as LBJs Great Society programs have helped the poor.

Posted by: Just Ranting at September 14, 2021 07:29 PM (SmFPm)

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