The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

The academy was one of the first targets of the Long March, and nowhere else has it been so wildly successful. It embraces every crackpot pseudo-scientific nonsense if there is a possibility that its acceptance will further fracture the country into pressure groups and angry minorities and all of the divisions that will hasten the destruction of our glorious experiment: American Exceptionalism.

That most of the academy are unaware of the real goals of that Long March and are simply useful idiots to be used and discarded is secondary. They dutifully divide and destroy.

A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: 'I Just Feel Lost'

At the close of the 2020-21 academic year, women made up 59.5% of college students, an all-time high, and men 40.5%, according to enrollment data from the National Student Clearinghouse, a nonprofit research group. U.S. colleges and universities had 1.5 million fewer students compared with five years ago, and men accounted for 71% of the decline.
This education gap, which holds at both two- and four-year colleges, has been slowly widening for 40 years. The divergence increases at graduation: After six years of college, 65% of women in the U.S. who started a four-year university in 2012 received diplomas by 2018 compared with 59% of men during the same period, according to the U.S. Department of Education.
In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man, if the trend continues, said Douglas Shapiro, executive director of the research center at the National Student Clearinghouse.

Well! Maybe American men have had enough. Whether this is a real trend or a temporary shift remains to be seen, but it is abundantly clear to all but the most obtuse among us that men are a primary target of the shrieking harpies on campuses across America. They are White; they like guns, they have sex with women, and they tend to be more conservative than women. Sounds awful, and certainly that kind of behavior doesn't belong on college campuses, where those attributes are mocked and deconstructed and attacked both in the classroom and on the streets.

So why go to college? Sure, Griggs vs. Duke Power Co. made actual intelligence and skill something to be measured only indirectly...with a college degree. But in a post-modern America, there are fewer and fewer people who know how to change a tire or build a house or fix cars or pave roads, and the dilution of a college degree by the explosion of nonsense classes and departments and majors has made them much less valuable.

If I had a high school senior in my home, I would make sure he thought long and hard about exactly what he thinks he will get out of college besides the non-trivial chance of being accused of rape, being a nazi, a white supremacist or whatever the evil flavor of the month may be.

The interesting question is: where are all of these women going to work? Sure HR always needs drones, and teaching is a fallback, but how many Starbucks are there in America that doesn't already have a glut of earnest women appropriately tattooed and pierced, just waiting for their big break to make that cappuccino foam just perfect!

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Morning, horde!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 07, 2021 10:01 AM (kTF2Z)

2 Without college I wouldn't have any gnaw ledge

Posted by: 496 at September 07, 2021 10:01 AM (VJsqe)

3 Called em.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 07, 2021 10:01 AM (kTF2Z)

4
Fat, drunk and with a PhD in sociology is no way to go through life.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:02 AM (s2VJv)

5 Good morning everyone!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 07, 2021 10:02 AM (mD/uy)

6 top 10?

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 07, 2021 10:02 AM (8D42x)

7 learn to code. skip the BS.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2021 10:02 AM (1c5s7)

8 This just forces an increase in credentialism as more go on to get Master's degrees.

Posted by: Iris at September 07, 2021 10:03 AM (DibdT)

9 "That most of the academy are unaware of the real goals of that Long March and are simply useful idiots to be used and discarded is secondary. They dutifully divide and destroy."

It is one of my greatest sorrows that my wife falls into this category. That one of the most loving, decent and intelligent persons I have ever know can be so stupid is tragic beyond my capacity to describe it.

Oh well, the heart wants what it wants.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:04 AM (s2VJv)

10 Fat, drunk and with a PhD in sociology is no way to go through life.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Two words:

Ed.D.

Posted by: Dr. DOCTOR Jill at September 07, 2021 10:04 AM (QzkSJ)

11 I disagree that college is not going to be meaningful in the future. College is access. It is an excuse for exclusion. Driving men out of college means driving them out of the upper tiers of organizations, which is to say women are now in charge. The rationale and the outcome is fairly predictable.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 07, 2021 10:04 AM (B0mGw)

12 I disagree that college is not going to be meaningful in the future. College is access. It is an excuse for exclusion. Driving men out of college means driving them out of the upper tiers of organizations, which is to say women are now in charge. The rationale and the outcome is fairly predictable.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 07, 2021 10:04 AM

This guy gets it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 07, 2021 10:05 AM (m+jkK)

13 10 Two words:
Ed.D.
Posted by: Dr. DOCTOR Jill at September 07, 2021 10:04 AM (QzkSJ)

"One word. Viagra!"

- - Bob "Liz's Pole" Dole

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:05 AM (s2VJv)

14 The interesting question is: where are all of these women going to work?

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$20, same as in town.

Eventually though, those cattle cars and concentration camps aren't going to manage themselves ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 07, 2021 10:06 AM (/z9fK)

15 For men, college has become a very good way to:
1. Spend a lot of money
2. Accumulate a lot of debt
3. Spend several years in an ideological grist mill
4. Acquire no skills
5. Be villainized
6. Party and get laid

All of the above except point #5 will also apply to women. Yes, there are exceptions, but point number 6 is decreasingly compelling especially given the risks of "day after regret" manifesting as a sex crime accusation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:06 AM (3p5uk)

16 Strippers. Our colleges will produce them by the thousands if they're unable to make it as a Starbucks barista.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trabs Wookie at September 07, 2021 10:06 AM (Uqk0T)

17 Mornin' all... Looks like Afghanistan is gone and is replaced with those icky Texas Neanderthals and their crusade against Women's rights!.. AKA... The holy Grail of Abortion...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2021 10:07 AM (L91xj)

18
Plumbing, electrician, carpentry, welding, tool & die making.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:07 AM (s2VJv)

19 "Strippers."

Onlyfans means you can be a stripper without ever having to leave the house.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 07, 2021 10:07 AM (B0mGw)

20 Posting present

Posted by: Skip's Phone at September 07, 2021 10:07 AM (WXxKu)

21 In this day and age college is a waste of time, money and effort. Actually, it's been like that for decades.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2021 10:08 AM (BFigT)

22 With a 40/60 balance, dudes in college right now are drowning in pussy.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:08 AM (GQ5VU)

23 Onlyfans means you can be a stripper without ever having to leave the house.

Aren't they about to ban adult content?

Speaking of blue on blue, the Tipper Gore faction of the left wants to ban pron, and with the power the left is gaining through COVID mania they might finally get in a position to do it here (I think a couple of Euro countries have nominally banned it already).

Posted by: 18-1 at September 07, 2021 10:08 AM (DpkTQ)

24 Maybe American men have had enough.

Yep. Sick of the whole goddamn thing. "Education," society, culture, the legal system...

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at September 07, 2021 10:08 AM (II3Gr)

25 I learned something from Keith Olbermann! (He responding to someone who took Fauci's name in vain.)

Keith Olbermann
@KeithOlbermann
Replying to @redsteeze
See you skipped a step. First you' nll have to learn how to read, not just RT somebody else's cherry picking, buttonhead.

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Buttonhead is a derogatory name for white people, the opposite of zipperhead, and is a reference to shape of their eyes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 07, 2021 10:08 AM (d9FiS)

26 For men, college has become a very good way to:
1. Spend a lot of money
2. Accumulate a lot of debt
3. Spend several years in an ideological grist mill
4. Acquire no skills
5. Be villainized
6. Party and get laid

All of the above except point #5 will also apply to women. Yes, there are exceptions, but point number 6 is decreasingly compelling especially given the risks of "day after regret" manifesting as a sex crime accusation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

I am going to learn skills that I should have learned growing up (welding, real plumbing, not fixes, electrical, again, not just fixes), and teach them to my grandsons, so they won't have to rely on kollige.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 07, 2021 10:09 AM (OCTRt)

27 21 In this day and age college is a waste of time, money and effort. Actually, it's been like that for decades.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2021 10:08 AM (BFigT)

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Can't generalize like that.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:09 AM (GQ5VU)

28 Onlyfans means you can be a stripper without ever having to leave the house.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 07, 2021 10:07 AM (B0mGw)
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True, but if that's all you do then you're probably not going to make much coin. There's money in taking off your clothes in person. If it's mediated, you have to do a lot more. There's a lot more competition and your competition *will* crank up the action, deviance, exoticism to get more paying subscribers. A cute young chick baring herself on camera - but doing nothing else - will move the needle in a dark club, but not in an essentially unfettered online porno market.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:09 AM (3p5uk)

29 Plumbing, electrician, carpentry, welding, tool & die making.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:07 AM

Was talking with Godchild The Older's twin brother this weekend. Even at 13 the lad gets it, and is looking in those directions. I'm encouraging him.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 07, 2021 10:09 AM (m+jkK)

30 With a 40/60 balance, dudes in college right now are drowning in pussy.

Half that 60 percent is morbidly obese and half is "gender fluid". So...drowning in front blowholes...maybe?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 07, 2021 10:09 AM (DpkTQ)

31 "Aren't they about to ban adult content?"

My understanding is that people immediately started bailing and Onlyfans backed off.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 07, 2021 10:09 AM (B0mGw)

32 Last year I finished building my detached man-cave and the kid that was helping the concrete guy was totally dressed like a hipster pajama-boy cidiot and had tatoos, but he was learning a trade. That should tell you the status of college these days.

Posted by: Danimal28 at September 07, 2021 10:10 AM (8O629)

33 All I can think of is the women to men ratio to get laid.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:10 AM (2DOZq)

34 Half that 60 percent is morbidly obese and half is "gender fluid". So...drowning in front blowholes...maybe?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 07, 2021 10:09 AM (DpkTQ)

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Not the college in my burg.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:10 AM (GQ5VU)

35 I am going to learn skills that I should have learned growing up (welding, real plumbing, not fixes, electrical, again, not just fixes), and teach them to my grandsons, so they won't have to rely on kollige.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 07, 2021 10:09 AM (OCTRt)
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Trade schools are not colleges. They're a different category and a very different cost/benefit scenario.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:10 AM (3p5uk)

36 33 All I can think of is the women to men ratio to get laid.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:10 AM (2DOZq)

I don't know.... Have you seen some of those "women" ?

Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2021 10:11 AM (L91xj)

37 17 Mornin' all... Looks like Afghanistan is gone and is replaced with those icky Texas Neanderthals and their crusade against Women's rights!.. AKA... The holy Grail of Abortion...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2021 10:07 AM (L91xj)

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My fellow Democrats, I am pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Texas forever. We begin bombing in five minutes ...

Posted by: Beijing Biden -- 10% of the Buck Stops Here at September 07, 2021 10:11 AM (/z9fK)

38 @JoeMannix

Yeah, I agree that it's a slide. The disturbing part to me is that it's the family women into it now and they're advertising on their family car. I'm on a bulletin board where men are actively egging their wives on to do Onlyfans.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 07, 2021 10:11 AM (B0mGw)

39 Tech thread: 48 Mass murder in Texas yesterday. 67 people dead.
Posted by: f'd

??? Not finding this on news search or elsewhere.

Posted by: mindful the wondering webworker at September 07, 2021 10:11 AM (jzWBS)

40 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at September 07, 2021 10:12 AM (Zz0t1)

41 Tech thread: 48 Mass murder in Texas yesterday. 67 people dead.
Posted by: f'd

??? Not finding this on news search or elsewhere.
Posted by: mindful the wondering webworker at September 07, 2021 10:11 AM (jzWBS)

Abortion clinic working OT to beat deadline.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:13 AM (2DOZq)

42 If you want a career in a white collar setting, college is needed. If you want a career doing welding it's not. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but it is two distinct paths in life. Some will choose one path, some another. But to say college is stupid, just learn to weld is not really an answer.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:13 AM (GQ5VU)

43 Also see nursing for a career choice for women grads. One of the few that make any sense. As far as it goes for men stem might be all that is left.

Trades are never a bad thing.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 07, 2021 10:14 AM (0OmEj)

44 MGTOW is real and spectacular

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 07, 2021 10:14 AM (V6f9+)

45
Driving men out of college means driving them out of the upper tiers of organizations, which is to say women are now in charge. The rationale and the outcome is fairly predictable.
Posted by: squid_hunt

So, peace and tranquility and no more wars?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 07, 2021 10:14 AM (63Dwl)

46 All I can think of is the women to men ratio to get laid.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:10 AM (2DOZq)
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The math won't work. Since there are no restrictions on sexual behavior (e.g., one at a time or even "serial monogamy"), the improving ratios will not lead to greater success in terms of proportion of the male student population getting laid.

The women will still sleep with the hunky chads, and the rest of the men will still have limited luck. The women will, essentially, form harems all by themselves.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:14 AM (3p5uk)

47 48 Mass murder in Texas yesterday. 67 people dead.

So...1.5 killed per event is a mass murder?

Chicago has the many murders/month on average.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 07, 2021 10:15 AM (DpkTQ)

48 This is why my youngest joined the Corps.

He didn't want to deal with the distractions and the indoctrination tactics inherent in the college system.

Now he's learning how to work with outboard engines. He's getting pretty damn good.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 07, 2021 10:15 AM (HWiqh)

49 Abortion clinic working OT to beat deadline.
Posted by: Just a side note

I had suspected that.

Posted by: mindful the suspicious webworker at September 07, 2021 10:15 AM (jzWBS)

50 We talk about how young women didn't learn housekeeping skills, because of feminism. It's looking like we have young men that didn't learn basic skills because their dads didn't teach them. Is this just because of divorce?

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at September 07, 2021 10:15 AM (5HBd1)

51 So, peace and tranquility and no more wars?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 07, 2021 10:14 AM

To paraphrase Robin Williams, every 28 days there would be some intense negotiations.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 07, 2021 10:15 AM (m+jkK)

52 Buttonhead is a derogatory name for white people, the opposite of zipperhead, and is a reference to shape of their eyes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 07, 2021 10:08 AM (d9FiS)

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Huh, didn't know that. I guess Queef is a self-hating buttonhead.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 07, 2021 10:16 AM (/z9fK)

53 We need a major in pole dancing.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 07, 2021 10:16 AM (/MaDp)

54 Onlyfans means you can be a stripper without ever having to leave the house.

Aren't they about to ban adult content?

Speaking of blue on blue, the Tipper Gore faction of the left wants to ban pron, and with the power the left is gaining through COVID mania they might finally get in a position to do it here (I think a couple of Euro countries have nominally banned it already).
Posted by: 18-1

No. OF rolled over and bent the knee. Realized they'd be losing too much cash.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 07, 2021 10:16 AM (OCTRt)

55 Have an almost family member (engaged to a relative) that earned an engineering degree. She hated working for a large corporation as an intern so she didn't pursue her degree. This is so cliched it's pathetic, she's working a barrista. She wanted a career where she could interact and help people. That's only half of the story. She also shaved her head, won't shave anything else, dresses like a man and changed her name. Yes, she also has daddy issues.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 07, 2021 10:16 AM (2NHgQ)

56 All I can think of is the women to men ratio to get laid.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:10 AM (2DOZq)

I don't know.... Have you seen some of those "women" ?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2021 10:11 AM (L91xj)

Yeah you have a point about quality over quantity.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:17 AM (2DOZq)

57
The women will still sleep with the hunky chads, and the rest of the men will still have limited luck. The women will, essentially, form harems all by themselves.

This is sort of the way America as a whole is going. You don't need to marry Barry the Beta when Uncle Sugar will pay for any kids you have anyway.

And if you get knocked up by some wealthy Chad well..you just hit the lottery...

Posted by: Obligatory at September 07, 2021 10:17 AM (DpkTQ)

58 She also shaved her head, won't shave anything else, dresses like a man and changed her name. Yes, she also has daddy issues.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 07, 2021 10:16 AM (2NHgQ)

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And your relative is marrying her/xhe/it?

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:18 AM (GQ5VU)

59
Honestly, of all the trades, concrete is probably the one I wouldn't recommend to a young dude. It's fine when you're that age, but it will annihilate your body fairly quickly. The trick in that business is to get successful as fast as you can, and hopefully be able to hire out the labor to younger men before you're a forty-five year old who looks seventy-five.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 07, 2021 10:18 AM (9sVFt)

60 Where are all those college 'educated' wymyns going to work?

Gubmint. That's #1. Great pay and bennies, unfireable, lots of personal time off...

Oh well. But I do agree, getting an apprenticeship right out of high school in one of the trades means in 4-5 years you will be earning more than most college grads can make in their first year, but with no debt.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at September 07, 2021 10:18 AM (F0YaR)

61 I learn my trade skills on YouTube. I managed to learn welding well enough to build a barn at my farm. I used YouTube to learn the electrical skills needed to run power underground from the pole and pull wire through conduit throughout the barn. Then I Plummed a couple of faucets and sinks. With motivation, I'd say one doesn't even need trade school to learn skills. It is available online for free.

Posted by: Drc at September 07, 2021 10:18 AM (vbaSG)

62 Men On Strike

Posted by: Helen Smith at September 07, 2021 10:19 AM (jYQlA)

63 All I can think of is the women to men ratio to get laid.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:10 AM (2DOZq)

I don't know.... Have you seen some of those "women" ?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2021 10:11 AM (L91xj)

Yeah you have a point about quality over quantity.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:17 AM (2DOZq)

Go ugly, go early!

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at September 07, 2021 10:19 AM (4I/2K)

64 In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man, if the trend continues, said Douglas Shapiro

FWIW, those numbers are reversed in the hard-STEM disciplines. Women do go into engineering at higher rates, but the math & physical science disciplines only see about a 1:4 ratio of degrees awarded to women vs. men.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 07, 2021 10:19 AM (K58O6)

65 Dudes, have you been on a college campus recently? 95%+ of women are normal girls. There are a few freaks, but they're freaks BECAUSE they are small in numbers.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:19 AM (GQ5VU)

66 Joe Xiden. He loves her and he has issues as well.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 07, 2021 10:19 AM (2NHgQ)

67 61 I learn my trade skills on YouTube. I managed to learn welding well enough to build a barn at my farm. I used YouTube to learn the electrical skills needed to run power underground from the pole and pull wire through conduit throughout the barn. Then I Plummed a couple of faucets and sinks. With motivation, I'd say one doesn't even need trade school to learn skills. It is available online for free.
Posted by: Drc at September 07, 2021 10:18 AM (vbaSG)

This^
but in most areas you nee certifications for paying work.

Posted by: Inogame at September 07, 2021 10:19 AM (53oGX)

68 hi!

all the women getting degrees are going to work in government and related bureaucracies, FYI

my younger son is looking at well-regarded state schools with honors programs or other programs known for rigor - so far he's only done one visit (he's a junior) but we have more planned. he is acutely aware of both the cost in money and the cost in time of college, and isn't thrilled by either!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 07, 2021 10:20 AM (j9HX3)

69 I learn my trade skills on YouTube. I managed to learn welding well enough to build a barn at my farm. I used YouTube to learn the electrical skills needed to run power underground from the pole and pull wire through conduit throughout the barn. Then I Plummed a couple of faucets and sinks. With motivation, I'd say one doesn't even need trade school to learn skills. It is available online for free.
Posted by: Drc at September 07, 2021 10:18 AM (vbaSG)
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If you have the tools and a place to work and experiment, then this can be a great option. If you don't have (and can't afford) the tools, or you have nothing to work because you rent or have an apartment or something like that, this becomes much harder.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:20 AM (3p5uk)

70 10 Fat, drunk and with a PhD in sociology is no way to go through life.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Two words:

Ed.D.
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My studies (based on a pool of two students) show that 3/4 of all doctoral students will be idiots, 1/4 will be dimwits, one other will be a clown, and one other one will be a real dope.

Posted by: "Doctor" Jill Biden at September 07, 2021 10:20 AM (k4dH2)

71 Lotta fucking good all their gender studies degrees are going to do for them

Posted by: deadrody at September 07, 2021 10:20 AM (tdp94)

72 I have managed to work in the IT field minus a kollege dekree for over 30+ years. That is more God's providence than anything else. I also have found that being content in what God has blessed me with instead of chasing the $$ has helped. In the IT field, tech certs are more valuable than kollege edumacation. HR departments key in on the kollege but the folks actually in the field look at the certs. Of course that has change as H1b loosens and cheap IT labor floods the market. Globalism is doing the IT industry what they did to the blue collar industry, good and hard. (I'm a beltway bandit so my opinion is a bit skewed. the non FedGov serfdom world is probably much different)

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2021 10:20 AM (QFVV9)

73 Most don't have bunkers but want bunkers.

Generation Z 1.1 Hillbillies.

Swimming pools...bunkers....movie stars.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 07, 2021 10:20 AM (5sh7B)

74 "So, peace and tranquility and no more wars?"

I understand the general propaganda is that women are more peaceful. My impression has been that women are more vengeful and less likely to see the alternate perspective or compromise.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 07, 2021 10:20 AM (B0mGw)

75 >>In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man, if the trend continues, said Douglas Shapiro, executive director of the research center at the National Student Clearinghouse.

And how many/what % of those degerees will be absolutely worthless in the real word -- gender studies, women's studies, etc.?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 07, 2021 10:21 AM (bDqIh)

76 LOL, i'm at the recycler wuth a bunch of bins of cans and bottles. Filthy but it pays.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 07, 2021 10:21 AM (JODDm)

77 Once had a colleague who said to his daughter, "College is a four-year party, and you're not invited." I think she ended up doing AutoCAD drafting work and doing well.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2021 10:21 AM (xK9An)

78 60% of college students are women? HR departments are going to be huge.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:21 AM (2DOZq)

79 Poll: 1 In 5 Democrats Regret Voting For Joe Biden

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Vote in haste; repent at leisure.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 07, 2021 10:21 AM (d9FiS)

80 It may surprise, but the are conservative "drones" "in HR" that are working their asses off to maintain and enforce fundamentally sound employment and workplace policies, fighting a never-ending fight with the well hidden but entrenched socio-fascists that are literally trying to destroy any sense of meritocracy in the private sector.

I sleep with one of those "drones" "in HR" at a Fortune 1000 technology concern and she's doing the Lord's work. And it ain't drone-level work when your opinions and recommendations are discussed and debated at the board level.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at September 07, 2021 10:22 AM (MkuC5)

81 For most general office work, a 2 year degree is probably enough, and if high school wasn't a joke, not even that.

So, as a society we are wasting a lot of money and time with 4 year degrees in sociology or english or some such that lead to...a barista or even a middle manager.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 07, 2021 10:22 AM (DpkTQ)

82 I have managed to work in the IT field minus a kollege dekree for over 30+ years. That is more God's providence than anything else. I also have found that being content in what God has blessed me with instead of chasing the $$ has helped. In the IT field, tech certs are more valuable than kollege edumacation. ...
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2021 10:20 AM (QFVV9)
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It was the last great industry in this regard. "I'm smart and I'm quick and I have potential but no credentials" could - and to some much smaller degree still can - get your foot in the door. It's changing, though. This is how it still was when I started.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:22 AM (3p5uk)

83 Let's not forget the young men who were forced out of college because of the Obama-ear Title IX "hearings." I accompanied one young man to one of these hearings. He had been given two black eyes by his girlfriend--who had a history of violence towards others in the school, as well as a history hospitalization for mental illness. She was also prone to constant threats to break up with him if he saw friends or did anything she didn't like. When he had finally had enough and broke up with her she retaliated by filing claims of physical abuse under the absurd Title IX rules. Despite the fact that the evidence did not even meet the low standards set by the Obama administration and she was caught in multiple lies during the hearing, she prevailed. The young man was kicked out of school and stuck with the bill for the semester. Now he is barred from any colleges within the state school system--or in other words, any colleges he could afford. She continued her implosion and washed out of college a few weeks later. Under Trump, Betsy DeVos stopped most of this nonsense but Biden had made bringing the Obama policies back a priority.

Posted by: Kevin Ryan at September 07, 2021 10:22 AM (nCFjE)

84 Prager has suggested any high school graduate take 1 year to work and decide before going to a Leftist Seminary

Posted by: Skip's Phone at September 07, 2021 10:22 AM (WXxKu)

85 And how many/what % of those degerees will be absolutely worthless in the real word -- gender studies, women's studies, etc.?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 07, 2021 10:21 AM (bDqIh)

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Define "real world". Because the real world of today values shit like that as much if not more than an engineering degree. Who do you think runs every HR department in corporate America?

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:22 AM (GQ5VU)

86 75 >>In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man, if the trend continues, said Douglas Shapiro, executive director of the research center at the National Student Clearinghouse.

And how many/what % of those degerees will be absolutely worthless in the real word -- gender studies, women's studies, etc.?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 07, 2021 10:21 AM (bDqIh)

But they'll feel entitled to marry a successful lawyer or surgeon even as that pool dwindles.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at September 07, 2021 10:22 AM (z5Vrg)

87 79 Poll: 1 In 5 Democrats Regret Voting For Joe Biden

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Vote in haste; repent at leisure.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 07, 2021 10:21 AM (d9FiS)

Well, 1 in 8 Biden voters didn't exist...

Posted by: Inogame at September 07, 2021 10:22 AM (53oGX)

88 "I sleep with one of those "drones" "in HR" at a Fortune 1000 technology concern"

Is she in the position of authority?

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 07, 2021 10:23 AM (B0mGw)

89 HR departments are going to be huge.
Posted by: Just a side

Especially bloated a few days each month.

Posted by: Miklos hazards a prediction at September 07, 2021 10:23 AM (QzkSJ)

90 All those women college grads are tomorrow's "therapists." The ones who hang out their shingle, hold their client's (not a patient, a client!) hand, and then refer them to a psychiatrist to prescribe drugs.

Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:23 AM (S1hrL)

91 Now the panic reports are that the morgues are full too. Which probably means there are a handful in Chicago, Baltimore and Atlanta filling up with shooting victims.

Posted by: Ripley at September 07, 2021 10:23 AM (MxEKc)

92 >>I understand the general propaganda is that women are more peaceful. My impression has been that women are more vengeful and less likely to see the alternate perspective or compromise.

Women are not more peacefull, they just wage wars via different means. Take a look at the feminization of public schools.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 07, 2021 10:23 AM (bDqIh)

93 Two words:

Ed.D.
Posted by: Dr. DOCTOR Jill at September 07, 2021 10:04 AM (QzkSJ)

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Hey now!

Posted by: Bill Cosby, Ed.D. at September 07, 2021 10:23 AM (3TihK)

94 Trades are never a bad thing.
Posted by: USNtakim

Or technical training in the service. #3 son had a bit of trouble landing a job after an Accounting BA. #4 son, fresh out of the Navy, was offered a job at every place he applied. He was a GM with his A school on the VLS.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 07, 2021 10:23 AM (mD/uy)

95 you have the tools and a place to work and experiment, then this can be a great option. If you don't have (and can't afford) the tools, or you have nothing to work because you rent or have an apartment or something like that, this becomes much harder.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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True. This approach also doesn't provide certificates which can be helpful if someone wants to make a living doing it. But. Costs aren't high. A little 110v wire welder can be had for a couple hundred bucks. The point is, there are options.

Posted by: Drc at September 07, 2021 10:23 AM (vbaSG)

96 If you are interested in getting educated, college is not the place to make that happen. You will leave more ignorant than you came in. College actually subtracts knowledge and installs stupidity in it's place.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:24 AM (o2MD2)

97 Has any national polling org actually polled people in the swing states to ask who they voted for?

I'm guessing no because the numbers would be a problem for the argument the election was free and fair...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 07, 2021 10:24 AM (DpkTQ)

98 If I could have a redo I would have skipped college and joined the Fire Department like all my Uncles and cousins. My father chose the military.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:24 AM (2DOZq)

99 Have an almost family member (engaged to a relative) that earned an engineering degree. She hated working for a large corporation as an intern so she didn't pursue her degree. This is so cliched it's pathetic, she's working a barrista. She wanted a career where she could interact and help people. That's only half of the story. She also shaved her head, won't shave anything else, dresses like a man and changed her name. Yes, she also has daddy issues.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 07, 2021 10:16 AM (2NHgQ)

I hope you are telling your relative, "Pull up! Pull up! Or you're going to augur in!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 07, 2021 10:25 AM (9vpZx)

100 My stepson did roofing and is now doing concrete work. He's in his 30s. His dad kept hoping he'd go to college. I told him it was better for him to be working. He's going to have to find another career soon as construction work gets difficult when you hit your 40s. But he's run his own small business so he'll come up with something.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at September 07, 2021 10:25 AM (5HBd1)

101
All those women college grads are tomorrow's "therapists." The ones who hang out their shingle, hold their client's (not a patient, a client!) hand, and then refer them to a psychiatrist to prescribe drugs.

Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:23 AM (S1hrL)

Heh. My daughter has three therapists. The real kind, not the psychology fake kind. They're all really great, but the male one (physical therapist) is totally the best. That dude knows his shit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 07, 2021 10:25 AM (9sVFt)

102 Who is John Galt?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 07, 2021 10:25 AM (mEgow)

103 Businesses are not the only ones who screen for college degrees. Women do too. If you skip college you may be better off financially, but your marriage prospects are much more limited.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 07, 2021 10:25 AM (vN+oL)

104 This^
but in most areas you nee certifications for paying work.
Posted by: Inogame

That's where the four or five year apprenticeship comes in. About the time your buddies are graduating college $250,000 in debt, your are getting your certs.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 07, 2021 10:25 AM (OCTRt)

105 Contemporary college.

https://bit.ly/3BPBJD7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 07, 2021 10:25 AM (d9FiS)

106 If you don't have an SAT north of 1200, you probably shouldn't go to college, unless you are already independently wealthy, or your wife is.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (yQpMk)

107 but your marriage prospects are much more limited.

Hypergamy is a bitch. Especially because it is about perceptions, not facts...

Posted by: Obligatory at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (DpkTQ)

108 Late but maybe JJ is still around...

I do hate to look as if I'm jumping all over JJ here; I have tremendous respect for him, and always enjoy his posts. Thankfully, after the above-noted momentary swerve into the "Vote HARDERER!TM" ditch, he righted himself and got back on track again with those closing 'graphs. But I declare, if I see one more of Our Guys (and Sefton surely is that) so much as bring up American "elections" again as if they still mattered as anything other than pure theater, I may just start rending my garments, tearing out what hair I have left, and swallowing my tongue over it.

I don't disagree with the point, we've had this argument a lot the last few months. But I'm still looking for what is the alternative? Because if there isn't one, what is the point of us? Are we just masochists?

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (5p7BC)

109 Businesses are not the only ones who screen for college degrees. Women do too. If you skip college you may be better off financially, but your marriage prospects are much more limited.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 07, 2021 10:25 AM (vN+oL)
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But you might find yourself with a mate who didn't go to college herself, and thus has a higher chance of not being ruined.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (3p5uk)

110 Is she in the position of authority?
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 07, 2021 10:23 AM (B0mGw)

Yes. One of the good guys. They all need our prayers.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (MkuC5)

111 Contemporary college.

https://bit.ly/3BPBJD7
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

C'mon, man.

That's his Mom's name

Posted by: Miklos hazards a guess at September 07, 2021 10:27 AM (QzkSJ)

112 It was the last great industry in this regard. "I'm smart and I'm quick and I have potential but no credentials" could - and to some much smaller degree still can - get your foot in the door. It's changing, though. This is how it still was when I started.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:22 AM (3p5uk)

The problem now is that applicants must get past AI and HR to even have their resumes looked at by someone who can evaluate the person.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 07, 2021 10:27 AM (AiZBA)

113 >>Where are all those college 'educated' wymyns going to work?

On ther knees, of course.

Posted by: Kamala Harris at September 07, 2021 10:27 AM (2GBI6)

114 Family member has supported himself very well as an electrician. Works solo, a free agent.

Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:27 AM (S1hrL)

115 "They all need our prayers."

Agreed.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 07, 2021 10:27 AM (B0mGw)

116 106 If you don't have an SAT north of 1200, you probably shouldn't go to college, unless you are already independently wealthy, or your wife is.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (yQpMk)

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I'd say more like 1350, but yeah your point is accurate. College is worth it if you go to the right one. If you go to one where anyone with a pulse gets accepted, it is probably not worth it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:27 AM (GQ5VU)

117 "general propaganda is that women are more peaceful. My impression has been that women are more vengeful and less likely to see the alternate perspective or compromise."

maybe it was just AoS gossip, but I recall hearing that one (or two?) of those battleship collisions was because two women were having a little spat. ... (You Sunk My Battleship ... new feminist version of the game ... from Hasbro)

Posted by: illiniwek at September 07, 2021 10:27 AM (Cus5s)

118 Trying this on duckduckgo, does it make my ass look big?

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2021 10:28 AM (0OP+5)

119 I don't disagree with the point, we've had this argument a lot the last few months. But I'm still looking for what is the alternative?

One of the clear things our side lacks are leaders. The left has endless NGOs producing people to strategize what they are going to do next to f*ck up the country.

On the right? We have, literally, amateurs and the GOPe.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 07, 2021 10:28 AM (DpkTQ)

120 Are we just masochists?
Posted by: Dave in Fla

You aren't here for the punfests, are you?

Posted by: Miklos until it hurts at September 07, 2021 10:28 AM (QzkSJ)

121 It dawned on me as a young man 25 years ago that as women move up the socio-economic ladder, they'll have a harder time finding someone to settle with since they always "marry up."

I knew hypergamy always existed, I just didn't know there was a word for it.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 07, 2021 10:28 AM (vuisn)

122 At the close of the 2020-21 academic year, women made up 59.5% of college students, an all-time high, and men 40.5%, according to enrollment data from the National Student Clearinghouse
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Here are the sad parts: 1)a substantial fraction of those women majored in Silly Studies; and 2) a lot of women drop out of the work force to become full- or at least part-time mommies. 1) is deplorable, but 2) is great, the most important job there is, but the time and expense already incurred are then largely wasted.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 07, 2021 10:29 AM (YqDXo)

123 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (3p5uk)

Yes of course. I am not advocating that men who went to college should screen for women with a degree. Women do that because of their instinct to be taken care of. Men should follow their instinct to find the woman who has a birthing body and pretty face, and having a college degree opens the field more.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 07, 2021 10:29 AM (vN+oL)

124 If you skip college you may be better off financially, but your marriage prospects are much more limited.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson

Perhaps. But, there are ways around that too. The sons that have heeded their Dad and gotten themselves to Pro Life meetings and marches have met lovely, decent, marriage minded women.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 07, 2021 10:29 AM (mD/uy)

125 107 but your marriage prospects are much more limited.

Hypergamy is a bitch. Especially because it is about perceptions, not facts...
Posted by: Obligatory at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (DpkTQ)

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Works the other way too. I never seriously dated anyone who didn't have a degree. Off the top of my head I can't think of any guy I know with a degree who married a woman without one.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:29 AM (GQ5VU)

126 Trying this on duckduckgo, does it make my ass look big?

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2021 10:28 AM (0OP+5)

Yes. Too much wild pig. You need to go on a diet!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 07, 2021 10:29 AM (Q9lwr)

127 I got out as a DS secure digital communication guy. Had no problems finding work as a field services tech or in communication. Until disability caught up with me.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 07, 2021 10:29 AM (0OmEj)

128 It dawned on me as a young man 25 years ago that as women move up the socio-economic ladder, they'll have a harder time finding someone to settle with since they always "marry up."

I knew hypergamy always existed, I just didn't know there was a word for it.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 07, 2021 10:28 AM (vuisn)
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Yeah. It's as old as human society, and damn near universal. Women marry laterally or up. Men marry laterally or down. If women move up and men don't, the marriage pool shrinks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (3p5uk)

129 @121

Do these "women" even want to get married?

Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (S1hrL)

130 Are we just masochists?
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Beats me.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (mD/uy)

131 Re: College acceptance. Colleges should let everyone who wants to enroll into the program. If you can cut it you can cut it. If you can't then flunk your ass out. Effective and democratic. SAT scores should mean nothing.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (o2MD2)

132 Here are the sad parts: 1)a substantial fraction of those women majored in Silly Studies; and 2) a lot of women drop out of the work force to become full- or at least part-time mommies. 1) is deplorable, but 2) is great, the most important job there is, but the time and expense already incurred are then largely wasted.

the MDs who do this really kill me; we need more doctors but the female ones either quit early or work very limited hours. and they take up available med school slots (which are limited, possibly too limited).

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (j9HX3)

133 Well in process of getting car

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2021 10:31 AM (jbNYD)

134 I admit I ended up going to college just get the piece of paper for my resume. I can't recall one thing in particular that I learned that helped me in my subsequent careers. STEM majors are a different animal though. I had a degree in Marketing

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:31 AM (2DOZq)

135 131 Re: College acceptance. Colleges should let everyone who wants to enroll into the program. If you can cut it you can cut it. If you can't then flunk your ass out. Effective and democratic. SAT scores should mean nothing.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (o2MD2)

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So the incoming class of Harvard will be about 400K students?

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:31 AM (GQ5VU)

136 The math won't work. Since there are no restrictions on sexual behavior (e.g., one at a time or even "serial monogamy"), the improving ratios will not lead to greater success in terms of proportion of the male student population getting laid.

The women will still sleep with the hunky chads, and the rest of the men will still have limited luck. The women will, essentially, form harems all by themselves.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:14 AM (3p5uk)

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I'm often reminded of that bar scene from the movie "A Beautiful Mind" -- when a group of women walk in and all the guys focus their attention primarily on the blonde beauty vs. the other brunettes -- which was supposed to illustrate a congestion game-theory "Nash Equilibrium" for the optimal strategy the guys should employ in approaching the women.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 07, 2021 10:31 AM (/z9fK)

137 maybe it was just AoS gossip, but I recall hearing that one (or two?) of those battleship collisions was because two women were having a little spat. ... (You Sunk My Battleship ... new feminist version of the game ... from Hasbro)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 07, 2021 10:27 AM (Cus5s)
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That was in the MSM, for what that's worth.

"You bitch!"
"No, YOU bitch!"
Crash!!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 07, 2021 10:31 AM (YqDXo)

138 Do these "women" even want to get married?
Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (S1hrL)
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Get married? Yes. Be married? Fewer of them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:31 AM (3p5uk)

139 If you don't have an SAT north of 1200, you probably shouldn't go to college, unless you are already independently wealthy, or your wife is.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (yQpMk)

Or you're Tom Cruise's character in Risky Business

Posted by: Wally at September 07, 2021 10:31 AM (FJYfm)

140 The really sad part of the rapidly diminishing quality of American education is that the most important skills that people need -- the ability to write concisely and well, and a good grasp of basic mathematics -- used to be taught in high school. Now it's barely taught in college.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 07, 2021 10:32 AM (Q9lwr)

141 100 My stepson did roofing and is now doing concrete work. He's in his 30s. His dad kept hoping he'd go to college. I told him it was better for him to be working. He's going to have to find another career soon as construction work gets difficult when you hit your 40s. But he's run his own small business so he'll come up with something.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at September 07, 2021 10:25 AM (5HBd1

Couple of years ago I was talking with a VP for one of the larger construction companies in this area and he was lamenting they could not get people into the trades, and that the average age of their job super's was almost 50. If the kid has a brain and is willing to use it he can make 6 figures and companies will be continually trying to poach him from wherever he is currently working.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at September 07, 2021 10:33 AM (Ar78U)

142 Are we just masochists?
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Beats me.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (mD/uy)

Whip Inflation !!

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:33 AM (2DOZq)

143 So the incoming class of Harvard will be about 400K students?
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:31 AM (GQ5VU)

You think 400k students can afford tuition at Harvard? If you have the money they will get you in anyway.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:33 AM (o2MD2)

144 142 Are we just masochists?
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Beats me.
Posted by: Tonypete

Whip Inflation !!
Posted by: Just a side note

Whip it good!
- Mark Mothersbaugh

Posted by: Tonypete at September 07, 2021 10:34 AM (mD/uy)

145 Are we just masochists?
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Beats me.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (mD/uy)

*snort*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:34 AM (yQpMk)

146 108 I don't disagree with the point, we've had this argument a lot the last few months. But I'm still looking for what is the alternative? Because if there isn't one, what is the point of us? Are we just masochists?
Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (5p7BC)

I wrestled with writing that sentiment this morning. Sometimes I really do feel like just throwing in the towel and just waiting for the end. Other times I get angry again.

But I really don't know what the freaking answer is. Well, I DO, but I don't have the $85 billion in hardware the Army left behind in Kabul. Or the Army.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:34 AM (s2VJv)

147 Best choice for young men is an online 4 year degree. Skip the college campus. You can work in your field, still get the degree, and get past the HR requirement for larger companies.

My son did exactly this when he got sick of installing AC during the summer. Got a job at Raytheon while getting an online degree.

For HR departments, it is literally a checkbox. Going to a "good school" is irrelevant. Once you are in the door, no one ever asks what school you went to, unless talking about who is playing football on Saturday.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (5p7BC)

148 I'm on my 2nd marriage. Both to very intelligent college-educated women.

If I ever marry again it will be to a stout peasant woman from Russia/a Bloc country who wakes up grumbling each morning, and digs into the work of the house each day. That is best.

Posted by: 496 at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (VJsqe)

149 When I attended an orientation for one of my kids' schools, the principal started out the presentation by saying something like, you want your kids to go to Stanford, we will do everything we can to make it happen. And I was like DONE AND DONE!! Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (GQ5VU)

150 >>maybe it was just AoS gossip, but I recall hearing that one (or two?) of those battleship collisions was because two women were having a little spat. .

Yes, they weren't speaking to each other.
Women are different, not better.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (bDqIh)

151 Re: College acceptance. Colleges should let everyone who wants to enroll into the program. If you can cut it you can cut it. If you can't then flunk your ass out. Effective and democratic. SAT scores should mean nothing.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (o2MD2)
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Ohio State does this (or at least, used to). It is rational, but a bit on the brutal side because it is so Darwinian. Plus, imagine the pressure on the faculty and TAs to cheer up grades, as giving someone a bad grade could be a third strike for him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (YqDXo)

152 Also important is that the Nonsense Studies Departments keep a huge number of otherwise unemployable Middle Class Marxists in the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed.

Posted by: bobo at September 07, 2021 10:36 AM (e9tMc)

153 Its better to have X amount of simple work so you can digest huge chunks of chunky raw data.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 07, 2021 10:36 AM (5sh7B)

154 My best friend in HS got a degree in History, but he came from a rich family so he didn't really need to earn a living.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:36 AM (yQpMk)

155 I don't disagree with the point, we've had this argument a lot the last few months. But I'm still looking for what is the alternative? Because if there isn't one, what is the point of us? Are we just masochists?
Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at September 07, 2021 10:26 AM (5p7BC)

Prepare and accelerate towards the crash and be ready to pick up the pieces.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at September 07, 2021 10:36 AM (z5Vrg)

156 yeah, without a focus on the hard sciences, there's not much reason to go to college anymore. and i say this as a MechE.

but i also feel like this is more and more the point...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (8D42x)

157 65 Dudes, have you been on a college campus recently? 95%+ of women are normal girls. There are a few freaks, but they're freaks BECAUSE they are small in numbers.
Posted by: Joe XiDen

they aren't normal at all. their overton window is moved way over there to the left.

Posted by: x at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (oA+QO)

158 If I ever marry again it will be to a stout peasant woman from Russia/a Bloc country who wakes up grumbling each morning, and digs into the work of the house each day. That is best.
Posted by: 496 at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (VJsqe)

"And I will raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me..."

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (MkuC5)

159 Ohio State does this (or at least, used to). It is rational, but a bit on the brutal side because it is so Darwinian. Plus, imagine the pressure on the faculty and TAs to cheer up grades, as giving someone a bad grade could be a third strike for him.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (YqDXo)

Tough titty. Life is hard.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (o2MD2)

160 If u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb!

Posted by: No. 7 Line Ad at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (JPtHE)

161 151 Ohio State does this (or at least, used to). It is rational, but a bit on the brutal side because it is so Darwinian. Plus, imagine the pressure on the faculty and TAs to cheer up grades, as giving someone a bad grade could be a third strike for him.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (YqDXo)

========

Replace teachers with robots that have a secondary objective to make people cry with anguish.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (LvTSG)

162 134 I admit I ended up going to college just get the piece of paper for my resume. I can't recall one thing in particular that I learned that helped me in my subsequent careers. STEM majors are a different animal though. I had a degree in Marketing

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:31 AM (2DOZq)

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The details I learned in pursuing and achieving an Engineering degree weren't important; it was the hard, rigorous discipline of day-after-day and year-after-year employing analysis and problem-solving to all manner of issues that led me to a very successful career.

And one other important thing: I took a course in Technical Writing, and that was one of the areas that allowed me to stand-out from many of my (often smarter) peers. The ability to clearly and precisely communicate ... what a concept!

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (/z9fK)

163 If I ever marry again it will be to a stout peasant woman from Russia/a Bloc country who wakes up grumbling each morning, and digs into the work of the house each day. That is best.
Posted by: 496 at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (VJsqe)

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife

Posted by: Jimmy Soul at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (FJYfm)

164 I did one semester in college. Hated it. Was told by people who had not ever been in the places I had been what had happened while I was there.

Took corresponds courses and individual classes to get the knowledge I needed. Means I had zero debt and this have worked out ok for me.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (oSy3T)

165 USS Fitzgerald had the communications issue.

Remember the Army sent their Pearl Harbor warning via Western Union because they assumed the Navy had the same atmospheric issues, they never checked.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (jbNYD)

166 >> If I ever marry again

3 times?

You would have to be insane.

Posted by: garrett at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (2GBI6)

167 >>131 Re: College acceptance. Colleges should let everyone who wants to enroll into the program. If you can cut it you can cut it. If you can't then flunk your ass out. Effective and democratic. SAT scores should mean nothing. Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (o2MD2)

I think that's the case in a lot of lower-density states (I know it was in Kansas, may still be); there's too much competition for finite capacity in other states (like Virginia) for that to work.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (xK9An)

168 160 If u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb!
Posted by: No. 7 Line Ad at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (JPtHE)

"Why not?"

- - Stewart Stewart (remember that from the graffitied subway cars of the early 80s?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (s2VJv)

169 College is for the curious, at least it used to be. One was accepted on test scores, grades, and potential.
One didn't have a portfolio of parental/consultant dictated BS to get in. One got there on one's own steam and adjusted or didn't. Period.

Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (S1hrL)

170 Replace teachers with robots that have a secondary objective to make people cry with anguish.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (LvTSG)

Nuns.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (yQpMk)

171 I'm on my 2nd marriage. Both to very intelligent college-educated women.

If I ever marry again it will be to a stout peasant woman from Russia/a Bloc country who wakes up grumbling each morning, and digs into the work of the house each day. That is best.
Posted by: 496 at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (VJsqe)

Will she raise rabbits and cook them well?

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (4I/2K)

172 157 65 Dudes, have you been on a college campus recently? 95%+ of women are normal girls. There are a few freaks, but they're freaks BECAUSE they are small in numbers.
Posted by: Joe XiDen

they aren't normal at all. their overton window is moved way over there to the left.
Posted by: x at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (oA+QO)

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I'm talking about the way they look. The perception here is that everyone is TriglyPuff. They're not.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:39 AM (GQ5VU)

173 You would have to be insane.
Posted by: garrett at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (2GBI6)

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Yes

Posted by: 496 at September 07, 2021 10:39 AM (VJsqe)

174 >>If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife

This guy gets it.

Posted by: Lou Costello at September 07, 2021 10:39 AM (2GBI6)

175 My department has only one male sr executive.

Me.

About 70% of the employees are women.

But we still have a D&I program cuz reasons.

LOL

Posted by: MJ at September 07, 2021 10:39 AM (zwDuR)

176 The Left are Communists and Socialists.
The Right are Statists.
Neither believe in freedom....only control.

Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:39 AM (OYH1L)

177 the MDs who do this really kill me; we need more doctors but the female ones either quit early or work very limited hours. and they take up available med school slots (which are limited, possibly too limited).
Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (j9HX3)
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Yep. I thought about mentioning this, but decided not to.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 07, 2021 10:39 AM (YqDXo)

178 Prepare and accelerate towards the crash and be ready to pick up the pieces.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at September 07, 2021 10:36 AM (z5Vrg)

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Exactly. As it stands, in the context of *this* country, there is no point. We're yesterday's news.

All we can do is just attempt to weather the storm, and teach our kids our values, and hope there's enough of them in the next few generations to rebuild something worthwhile from the ashes of this place.

But there is no righting this ship of State... it's reefed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 07, 2021 10:39 AM (9sVFt)

179 When I moved to NYC looking to get an entry level job at various advertising agencies, my little known southern Louisiana university degree was not a positive. Nor was my southern accent.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:40 AM (2DOZq)

180 Yup, the hard sciences is where the gravy is at.

Posted by: Peter North at September 07, 2021 10:40 AM (JPtHE)

181 Mr X...yes.

The media like puffer fish. Only The Clownfish fall for that ploy.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 07, 2021 10:40 AM (5sh7B)

182 If I ever marry again it will be to a stout peasant woman from Russia/a Bloc country who wakes up grumbling each morning, and digs into the work of the house each day. That is best.

Sheesh! Are you Italian?

Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:40 AM (S1hrL)

183 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 07, 2021 10:35 AM (YqDXo)

There is a reason why entry level science classes at UC Berkeley used to be extremely difficult.

Weed out the people who aren't going to take it seriously.

Professor Licht's biology class was famous for this. "Look to your left...look to your right. One of you won't be here next semester."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 07, 2021 10:41 AM (Q9lwr)

184 The Left are Communists and Socialists.
The Right are Statists.
Neither believe in freedom....only control.
Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:39 AM (OYH1L)

I find your simplistic world view intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:41 AM (yQpMk)

185 Seriously, though...

we just had a year that proves 100% of these College Campuses are unnecessary.

The Red Governors should take their Real Estate Holdings and sell them to developers.

If people complain, 'We need Low Income Housing' should really confuse them.

Posted by: garrett at September 07, 2021 10:41 AM (2GBI6)

186 131 Re: College acceptance. Colleges should let everyone who wants to enroll into the program. If you can cut it you can cut it. If you can't then flunk your ass out. Effective and democratic. SAT scores should mean nothing.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (o2MD2)

Well, you're getting your wish, as a number of colleges are dropping any SAT/ACT entry requirements.

Probably in response to that stat CBD quoted, about the drop in college students by about 1.5 million in the last 5 years.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at September 07, 2021 10:41 AM (F0YaR)

187 Hola chamucos y chamucas.

Posted by: 5280 greaser at September 07, 2021 10:41 AM (oSX/P)

188 183 Professor Licht's biology class was famous for this. "Look to your left...look to your right. One of you won't be here next semester."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 07, 2021 10:41 AM (Q9lwr)

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"They will give up and go into Gender Studies, studying to make you miserable for succeeding at a difficult subject."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at September 07, 2021 10:41 AM (LvTSG)

189 Men will struggle in feminized institutions. Public schools (all US schools really) are basically administered by women for women (the teachers). Universities are well-down the same path. Many great things about women, but on average they much prefer young boys under their care to just be slightly taller girls rather than actually boys.

Posted by: Match Checksout at September 07, 2021 10:41 AM (dYe5S)

190 But I really don't know what the freaking answer is. Well, I DO, but I don't have the $85 billion in hardware the Army left behind in Kabul. Or the Army.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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Well then I propose make voting matter. Cause we don't have a military sitting around for our use.

The truth is that the only legal method we have for getting what we want is to "vote harder". People can scream about it being theater and useless, and we need to get our heads on right.

But there is no alternative, other than giving up. So screaming at us for being "naive" is useless. We know perfectly well the challenges that are out there with unchecked voter fraud being built into the system. What are we to do instead?

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (5p7BC)

191 We're seriously considering sending our boys to Russia for undergrad degrees in some sort of hard science, math, geology, biology, chemistry...whatever most interests them in science. There are no requirements for humanities courses in Russia if you are studying science. No literature, no history, no arts. Theyll get that at our high-school and through music lessons and boy scouts. We've got 5 years to get our oldest ready. They'll get a specialist degree, which is slightly more than a BS, and be well prepared to comeback stateside for a masters degree.

Posted by: Mishdog at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (cqAUI)

192 My business is the future.

All chicks, no dicks.

Let me just tell you, the problems you manage are different.

Posted by: MJ at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (zwDuR)

193 176 The Left are Communists and Socialists.
The Right are Statists.
Neither believe in freedom....only control.
Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:39 AM (OYH1L)

What do you think communism and socialism are? Besides, there is no right-left paradigm. There is only limited government and ordered liberty or tyranny and control.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (s2VJv)

194 The wack jobs took over the schools a long, long time ago and have been treating boys as if they are simply defective girls for a long, long time as well. And it shows. "Mission Accomplished".

What did anyone expect would happen? Cripes, they've practically outlawed the Boy Scouts, too. Letting women raise men does not lead to good outcomes.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (qyZxC)

195 >>182 If I ever marry again it will be to a stout peasant woman from Russia/a Bloc country who wakes up grumbling each morning, and digs into the work of the house each day. That is best.

Old and busted: Samwich construction.
New hotness: Soup of the day. Every day.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (xK9An)

196 College wars... Begun they have

Posted by: It's me donna speaking like Yoda at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (L91xj)

197 "The details I learned in pursuing and achieving an Engineering degree weren't important; it was the hard, rigorous discipline of day-after-day and year-after-year employing analysis and problem-solving to all manner of issues that led me to a very successful career."

BINGO!! College isn't there to teach you how to do a specific job. It's to teach you how to approach and solve problems, manage time, analyze and interpret data, etc. A good example is you'll see a lot of engineering and math majors working on Wall St. They didn't learn how to be a trader, but what they learned is applicable to trading.

Too many people treat college like trade school. It's not. If you approach it that way, you're not doing it right.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (GQ5VU)

198 Tough titty. Life is hard.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (o2MD2)
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Nothing like branding an 18 year-old as a loser.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 07, 2021 10:43 AM (YqDXo)

199 It's not just teachers. There are a lot of students who don't want to learn, they want to stay in their comfort zone and "learn" what they already know.

Why else would there be courses in gender studies, race studies, etc.

Posted by: Beckoningchasm phone at September 07, 2021 10:43 AM (hXvO6)

200 2 of you have brought up the rabbits line - I don't get the reference.

But rabbit is delicious, and if my future involves more rabbit stew I'm all for it.

Posted by: 496 at September 07, 2021 10:43 AM (VJsqe)

201 "Blinken Denies Flights Being Blocked by Taliban, Blames Evacuees for Not Having Proper Identification"
I propose a 100 for 1 trade of Afghans at Rammstein or secretly transported to a Red state that don't have have a proven record of having helped the US for each American or Afghan green card holder stranded in Talibanistan... paperwork in order or not.

Posted by: Downcast at September 07, 2021 10:43 AM (SerFL)

202 Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (5p7BC)

I hear you.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:43 AM (s2VJv)

203 Man can not live on Rabbit alone.

Posted by: garrett at September 07, 2021 10:43 AM (2GBI6)

204 "But in a post-modern America, there are fewer and fewer people who know how to change a tire or build a house or fix cars or pave roads, and the dilution of a college degree by the explosion of nonsense classes and departments and majors has made them much less valuable."

I think hardly anyone under 40 has any notion of just how thoroughly higher ed has been demolished, not knowing what once was. And probably nobody over 45 either, being too far removed. Degrees aren't "less valuable", they're literally worthless.

I work in a highly technical field and I can't say we give a flying fuck about them anymore other than - for those of us paying attention - to reject applicants from a fairly long list of schools.

But even then, we're losing people left and right because it's become obvious that the company is doomed after a ~2 year woke hiring spree. The effects are delayed working from home, but when everyone gets back in it's really going to hit the fan... the little-red-book clutching moonbats in HR have stuffed the place full of dudes wearing dresses.
Leadership is anxious to have past indiscretions buried so they supported it vigorously.

Posted by: somedood at September 07, 2021 10:43 AM (3RlYu)

205 CBD @ 126- Yes. Too much wild pig. You need to go on a diet!
Well, fine. As to degreed women, Mrs. E is a well educated and armed woman with a BA in Accounting, whereas Eromero has an AA in 'General Studies' heh, and 121 semester hours on a transcript languishing in the local kollege vault. but we has done ok. Country folk can survive.

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2021 10:43 AM (0OP+5)

206 College wars... Begun they have
Posted by: It's me donna speaking like Yoda at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (L91xj)

Yea, Alabama! Drown 'em Tide!
Every 'Bama man's behind you,
Hit your stride.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:44 AM (yQpMk)

207 184 The Left are Communists and Socialists.
The Right are Statists.
Neither believe in freedom....only control.
Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:39 AM (OYH1L)

I find your simplistic world view intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:41 AM (yQpMk)

Lysander Spooner - No Treason - The Constitution of No Authority.

You can thank me later.

Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:44 AM (OYH1L)

208 When my toilet is backed up, I'll hire a dude that was once a plumber's apprentice. Then while he works on the clog, I'll run to the coffee shop and grab a cup of joe from the barista girl with the masters in gender studies.

Posted by: Roy at September 07, 2021 10:44 AM (Phd8w)

209 On the origins of COVID:

The documents contain several critical details about the research in Wuhan, including the fact that key experimental work with humanized mice was conducted at a biosafety level 3 lab at Wuhan University Center for Animal Experiment -- and not at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, as was previously assumed.

You like potato and I like potahto
You like tomato and I like tomahto
Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto!
Let's call the whole thing off!

Posted by: SMOD at September 07, 2021 10:45 AM (RHGPo)

210 As others have mentioned, college is not a requirement for a so-called white collar job. I retired after 35 years in IT, both private sector and government. I held certifications at one time or another in Novell, Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, 3Com, etc.

The one and only computer class I took at college was Fortran and it was taught in a box trailer in the parking lot during the summer. The temp inside was obscene. I bailed after 2 weeks.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2021 10:45 AM (BFigT)

211 I wanted to finish my bachelors degree in Comp Sci. Went to this one university where they put me in a Comp Sci 101 course because I didn't know their systems (PDP Vax). Course was on a language called Ada - A department of defense language. And we were 8 hours from any military installation that would use that. The professor, actually the chair of the Comp Sci curriculum - had her doctorate in psychology. Decided she wanted to do IT, took just enough courses so she would qualify to teach it. Never ever worked a day outside of academia.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 07, 2021 10:45 AM (N39Ws)

212 >>When my toilet is backed up, I'll hire a dude that was once a plumber's apprentice.

Not me. Warranty is up if you take a shit in that thing.

Posted by: garrett at September 07, 2021 10:45 AM (2GBI6)

213 How it should go:

News Radio - marriage negotiation

https://youtu.be/wN9Jq3_Z-1M

Posted by: Tonypete at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (mD/uy)

214 >>201 "Blinken Denies Flights Being Blocked by Taliban, Blames Evacuees for Not Having Proper Identification"

When the Taliban starts blaming evacuees for not having proper documentation, you'll know that the future is bright for civilization-via-bureaucracy in that benighted land.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (xK9An)

215 You can thank me later.
Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:44 AM (OYH1L)

I assume your put yourself pleasantly in the middle.

You really aren't helping.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (yQpMk)

216 Gosh, sure seems like this is simply made for some lawyer to trot out the old Disparate Impact argument and make the Universities cough up a huge chunk of taxpayer cash.

Posted by: JB1000 at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (Kf5r9)

217 I loved UCB back then. Today I think I would hate it and drop out.

Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (S1hrL)

218 210 As others have mentioned, college is not a requirement for a so-called white collar job. I retired after 35 years in IT, both private sector and government. I held certifications at one time or another in Novell, Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, 3Com, etc.

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OK BOOMER!! Seriously man this is the type of shit that gives you guys the bad rep. Yeah 40 years ago you could have a nice career without a degree. Those days are long fucking gone. Get with the times.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (GQ5VU)

219 "You bitch!" -- "No, YOU bitch!" -- Crash!! Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

right after I posted I realized the new feminist game should be called "BITCH, You Sunk My Battleship".

Of course normal people don't want to change the differences between men and make them the same. But we also don't want to require women to do men's jobs. Battlefield might be one area this is obvious, and maybe also battlefield leadership, idk.

Hollywood keeps making hard nosed women warriors ... women can be strong, but also be "motherly" and "soft and pretty".

Posted by: illiniwek at September 07, 2021 10:47 AM (Cus5s)

220 >>138 Do these "women" even want to get married?
Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:30 AM (S1hrL)
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Get married? Yes. Be married? Fewer of them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:31 AM (3p5uk)

Not to sound cynical, but when you say "marriage," think of it as "resource acquisition."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 07, 2021 10:47 AM (vuisn)

221 Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (GQ5VU)

Personally I didn't need college to learn discipline and responsibility. I needed the piece of paper to get my foot in the door.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:47 AM (2DOZq)

222 Nothing like branding an 18 year-old as a loser.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 07, 2021 10:43 AM (YqDXo)

One would assume sending that same 18 year old out to die in some battlefield half way around the world is fine?

Life is hard. Nobody said fair. 18 is a man. Time to learn manhood.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:47 AM (o2MD2)

223 JJ Sefton

Would LOVE your take on Lysander Spooner's "No Treason - The Constitution of NO AUTHORITY," sometime.

Love reading your column. Still.... The Constitution wasn't even ratified in accordance with existing law etc.

Lysander just kills every hypocrisy that there is. Would love to see you challenge it.

Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:47 AM (OYH1L)

224 So, peace and tranquility and no more wars?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 07, 2021 10:14 AM (63Dwl)

Boadicea would like a word...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 07, 2021 10:47 AM (8D42x)

225 Those days are long fucking gone. Get with the times.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (GQ5VU)

I just left a high skill position open for you guys. Oddly, no takers.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:47 AM (yQpMk)

226 214 >>201 "Blinken Denies Flights Being Blocked by Taliban, Blames Evacuees for Not Having Proper Identification"

When the Taliban starts blaming evacuees for not having proper documentation, you'll know that the future is bright for civilization-via-bureaucracy in that benighted land.
Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (xK9An)

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"He did not have the correct documentation. So we shot him, raped him, and sold his carcass to China."
-The Taliban

"It's really his own fault for not having proper documentation. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to have a photo op with some undocumented immigrants who showed up across the southern border."
-Blinken

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at September 07, 2021 10:47 AM (LvTSG)

227 @214

Yes. Because the evacuation was the most successful in history! Now here, take these pallets of cash.....

Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:48 AM (S1hrL)

228 Not to sound cynical, but when you say "marriage," think of it as "resource acquisition."
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 07, 2021 10:47 AM (vuisn)
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Yes, for women. And for men, it is householding, sex and child-rearing acquisition. For both, it's mutual support, companionship and assistance in the damned difficult business of life. It's a trade. That isn't a bad thing. But if both parties don't understand - or accept - the terms of the transaction, it will fail because reality will misalign against expectations.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:49 AM (3p5uk)

229 215 You can thank me later.
Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:44 AM (OYH1L)

I assume your put yourself pleasantly in the middle.

You really aren't helping

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (yQpMk)

Not me. I left the country to pursue bad guys. Real ones. Not traffic tickets.

Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:49 AM (OYH1L)

230 Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (GQ5VU)

You think the 'times' are better ? Of course you do.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:49 AM (2DOZq)

231 For fun.

Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:49 AM (OYH1L)

232 Not me. I left the country to pursue bad guys. Real ones. Not traffic tickets.

Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:49 AM (OYH1L)

So yeah, no help.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:50 AM (yQpMk)

233 213 How it should go:

News Radio - marriage negotiation

https://youtu.be/wN9Jq3_Z-1M
Posted by: Tonypete at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (mD/uy)

Stephen Root is always awesome.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 07, 2021 10:50 AM (PiwSw)

234 >>sold his carcass to China

intake -> Chingdong Industrial Park Processing -> somethingsomething smoke machinery something -> semiconductor chip -> Walmart

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2021 10:50 AM (xK9An)

235 I have a degree in Sociology, and now I'm US Secretary of State! Now, does this tutu make me look silly ??

- Antony Blinken

Posted by: runner at September 07, 2021 10:50 AM (ReE5g)

236 >>201 "Blinken Denies Flights Being Blocked by Taliban, Blames Evacuees for Not Having Proper Identification"

When the Taliban starts blaming evacuees for not having proper documentation, you'll know that the future is bright for civilization-via-bureaucracy in that benighted land.
Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (xK9An)

Did they get the memo about the new TPS cover sheets? It's just we're putting new coversheets on all the TPS reports before they go out now. So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on, that'd be great. All right!

Posted by: Dom Portwood at September 07, 2021 10:50 AM (4I/2K)

237 230 Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (GQ5VU)

You think the 'times' are better ? Of course you do.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:49 AM (2DOZq)

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Doesn't matter what I think. It's reality. Today, without a degree, your career prospects are dim.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:51 AM (GQ5VU)

238 Yes. Because the evacuation was the most successful in history! Now here, take these pallets of cash.....
Posted by: Ziba at September 07, 2021 10:48 AM (S1hrL)

It's as if the Afghanistan disaster never happened.. It's all abortion all the time now... Even joes numbers on Rasmussen have gone up 5 points.. People have short attention spans

Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2021 10:51 AM (L91xj)

239 > OK BOOMER!! Seriously man this is the type of shit that gives you guys the bad rep.

Somebody's got a burr up their ass today. Go piss up a rope.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2021 10:51 AM (BFigT)

240 Fee Fie Fo Fip I'll grind his bones to make my chip.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:51 AM (yQpMk)

241 234 >>sold his carcass to China

intake -> Chingdong Industrial Park Processing -> somethingsomething smoke machinery something -> semiconductor chip -> Walmart
Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2021 10:50 AM (xK9An)

=============

"Can't fight all the injustices of the world."
-Lefty who's suddenly very cool with Wal-Mart

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at September 07, 2021 10:51 AM (LvTSG)

242 232 Not me. I left the country to pursue bad guys. Real ones. Not traffic tickets.

Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:49 AM (OYH1L)

So yeah, no help.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:50 AM (yQpMk)

Nope. Home now. Still not playing for either side.

Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:51 AM (OYH1L)

243 Had an interview with the hiring manager's boss after a successful interview with the hiring manager last week.

God, please help me get out of here...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at September 07, 2021 10:52 AM (LvTSG)

244 239 > OK BOOMER!! Seriously man this is the type of shit that gives you guys the bad rep.

Somebody's got a burr up their ass today. Go piss up a rope.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2021 10:51 AM (BFigT)

___

Another boomer trait, lol. You're not helping your cause.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:52 AM (GQ5VU)

245 Nope. Home now. Still not playing for either side.
Posted by: Crew Cut at September 07, 2021 10:51 AM (OYH1L)

No help.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:52 AM (yQpMk)

246 I have some experience with college. I have degrees in Mechanical Engineering and Biology. College should be an educational experience, not necessary for it to be fun. Colleges waste time and resources with bullshit like gender studies. Graduating college should be an accomplishment. But if you graduate with a nothing degree like education it is a complete waste of time and money. Colleges should be ashamed of many of their course offerings.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:52 AM (o2MD2)

247 >>Yeah 40 years ago you could have a nice career without a degree. Those days are long fucking gone. Get with the times.

Sadly, yes. Between politicians and teachers saying "A college degree = success, and everyone deserves to go to college" as well as HR dept. using it to screen candidates, even for jobs that do not require a college degree.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 07, 2021 10:52 AM (bDqIh)

248 I see we have some college profs here trying to protect their careers.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 07, 2021 10:52 AM (Fs5vw)

249 I'm seeing young-uns hit the adult stage and they are shocked, shocked I say, by the reality of having to justify their own existence.

They piss and moan about how unfair everything is, and blame everyone and everything but themselves.

Luckily my two whelps are well-adjusted and now off the daddy dole.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at September 07, 2021 10:52 AM (w9Wax)

250 >>Even joes numbers on Rasmussen have gone up 5 points.

Rasmussen. Hah.

A little time with The People's Pundit should school you properly on that outfit.

Posted by: garrett at September 07, 2021 10:53 AM (2GBI6)

251 The truth is that the only legal method we have for getting what we want is to "vote harder". People can scream about it being theater and useless, and we need to get our heads on right.

But there is no alternative, other than giving up. So screaming at us for being "naive" is useless. We know perfectly well the challenges that are out there with unchecked voter fraud being built into the system. What are we to do instead?
Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at September 07, 2021 10:42 AM (5p7BC)

Ohio conducts accurate elections. For those of you living in cunt states that don't, you got some hard choices to make.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 07, 2021 10:53 AM (y7DUB)

252 "OK BOOMER!! Seriously man this is the type of shit that gives you guys the bad rep. Yeah 40 years ago you could have a nice career without a degree. Those days are long fucking gone. Get with the times.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:46 AM (GQ5VU)"

They're not wrong, things are changing. We hire senior level people with no degree and have hired entry level with PhD's. Very few zoomer or late millenial rock stars in my organization have degrees.

Most degrees are utterly worthless now. Businesses that are actually getting shit done vs. engaging in cargo cult nonsense are no longer using higher ed credentials for gatekeeping.

Posted by: somedood at September 07, 2021 10:53 AM (3RlYu)

253 Harris looks into the mirror...

.BidenMan. BidenMan. BidenMan.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 07, 2021 10:54 AM (5sh7B)

254 see we have some college profs here trying to protect their careers.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 07, 2021 10:52 AM (Fs5vw)

What do you mean?

Posted by: runner at September 07, 2021 10:54 AM (ReE5g)

255 College is for Suckers.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at September 07, 2021 10:54 AM (2GBI6)

256 Men think about making a living, supporting a family, so why get a grievance studies degree, for instance?

Speaking of the long march, Pete Buttigieg's father, an ND prof, translated Gramsci's prison writing into English and had a research group about him for the rest of his career. Interesting.

Posted by: PJ at September 07, 2021 10:54 AM (G1dq6)

257 I remember hearing "after your first job, any place worth working at doesn't care about which college you went to." I wonder if that's still true. Wonder, in fact, if it ever was (personal experience says Yes).

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (xK9An)

258 Ah, the halcyon days of college, endless drunken debauchery.

Posted by: Archer at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (gmo/4)

259 Except for a couple of chance hires, everyone good that was hired in my former IT department got there because someone recommended them to management and management forced them through HR.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (yQpMk)

260 > You're not helping your cause.

I'm comfortably retired. If it makes you feel better you're probably paying for it.

That helps my cause significantly.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (BFigT)

261 Ah, the halcyon days of college, endless drunken debauchery.
Posted by: Archer at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (gmo/4)
++++
As with everything else, I did college wrong.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (3p5uk)

262 -
Doesn't matter what I think. It's reality. Today, without a degree, your career prospects are dim.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta -
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You have been too sheltered.

Posted by: irright at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (8rX4S)

263 My Son has a college degree. He is a Master Plumber, as he makes 5 times the money he was making with his degree in Criminal Justice.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (o2MD2)

264 Luckily my two whelps are well-adjusted and now off the daddy dole.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks

I never cease to be amazed when a parent tells me their late 20-30 something kid is still on their phone plan and doesn't contribute in any way to the family budget.

Mom/Dad, you aren't helping.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (mD/uy)

265 >>Ah, the halcyon days of college, endless drunken debauchery.

I didn't drink back then. At all.

Never had to chew my arm off in the morning and I remember all of it.

Man. Those were fun times.

Posted by: garrett at September 07, 2021 10:56 AM (2GBI6)

266 Most degrees are utterly worthless now. Businesses that are actually getting shit done vs. engaging in cargo cult nonsense are no longer using higher ed credentials for gatekeeping.
Posted by: somedood at September 07, 2021 10:53 AM (3RlYu)

I wouldn't send a college aged child to a diploma mill.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 07, 2021 10:56 AM (y7DUB)

267 Rose McGowan @rosemcgowan

@HillaryClinton You are a shadow leader in service of evil. You are the enemy of what is good, right and moral. You represent no flag, no country, no soul. You eat hope, you twist minds. I've been in a hotel room with your husband and here comes the bomb.

And she made the comment while linking to an article about abortion

Posted by: SMOD at September 07, 2021 10:56 AM (RHGPo)

268 They're not wrong, things are changing. We hire senior level people with no degree and have hired entry level with PhD's. Very few zoomer or late millenial rock stars in my organization have degrees.

____

You're a niche then.

I am a consultant and work with companies all over the place in every industry, etc. Everyone I interact with has a degree. And yes I know, since I connect with everyone on LI, I'm one of THOSE people, lol.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:57 AM (GQ5VU)

269 Nood

Posted by: Furious George at September 07, 2021 10:57 AM (9vQJW)

270 As in flaming skull nood.

Posted by: Furious George at September 07, 2021 10:57 AM (9vQJW)

271 Another boomer trait, lol. You're not helping your cause.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:52 AM (GQ5VU)

What positive trait do you have that is not contributing to the mess we are now in? Seems to me you and your crew just continue to concede ground to the Left.

Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:57 AM (2DOZq)

272 Another boomer trait, lol. You're not helping your cause.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:52 AM (GQ5VU)

In my mind's ear, I keep hearing pasture noises.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 07, 2021 10:57 AM (9vpZx)

273 >>My Son has a college degree. He is a Master Plumber, as he makes 5 times the money he was making with his degree in Criminal Justice.

This is the way to go. Though, I would have got my Journeyman's Crd before I went at all.
Also. Electric.

Nobody ever shits in a 3 Gang Outlet and then calls you at 3am because the lights don't work.

Posted by: garrett at September 07, 2021 10:57 AM (2GBI6)

274 260 > You're not helping your cause.

I'm comfortably retired. If it makes you feel better you're probably paying for it.

That helps my cause significantly.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (BFigT)

__

And this right here is why boomers are pretty much universally hated by anyone under 40.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:58 AM (GQ5VU)

275 My Son has a college degree. He is a Master Plumber, as he makes 5 times the money he was making with his degree in Criminal Justice.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 10:55 AM (o2MD2)
++++
A brain surgeon got home from a long day of late surgeries and stumbled into the house at 2:30 AM. He found his toilet blasting water all through his downstairs. In an exhausted tizzy, he called a 24-hour plumber who arrived 30 minutes later.

The plumber looked at the leak, turned the valve off, tightened the fitting, turned the valve back on and said, "You're all set. That'ss be $500."

The surgeon railed, "You did a half hour's work including travel! I'm a brain surgeon and I don't earn $1,000 an hour!"

The plumber smiled and responded, "Yeah, I didn't make that much when I was a brain surgeon, either!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 07, 2021 10:58 AM (3p5uk)

276 Most Kolleges are diploma mill scams costing the victim thousands of dollars, emotional scarring and wasted income potential.

Sounds like a lawsuit in the making.

For The People!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 07, 2021 10:58 AM (/1l9x)

277 >>Most Kolleges are diploma mill scams costing the victim thousands of dollars, emotional scarring and wasted income potential.

You are ignoring their impact on Elections, completely.

Posted by: garrett at September 07, 2021 10:59 AM (2GBI6)

278 >>267 Rose McGowan @rosemcgowan @HillaryClinton

Rose presents as 'feisty.'

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2021 10:59 AM (xK9An)

279 >>>2 of you have brought up the rabbits line - I don't get the reference.

But rabbit is delicious, and if my future involves more rabbit stew I'm all for it.
Posted by: 496 at September 07, 2021 10:43 AM (VJsqe)

======
Referencing scene from The Hunt for Red October.

Posted by: I don't like my nic at September 07, 2021 10:59 AM (RIPpb)

280 All of this talk about voting harder is a waste of time. The long march jokes here ironically point the way:

Mao was right. Political power grows from the barrel of a gun. The whole 1950's Leave it to Beaver peaceful suburb thing was nice while it lasted but in the not too distant future it's going to be time for everyone to get their Mad Max on.

It's a bit ironic that it was Mao's disciples that did so much work to force the issue.

Posted by: somedood at September 07, 2021 11:00 AM (3RlYu)

281 168 160 If u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb!
Posted by: No. 7 Line Ad at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (JPtHE)

"Why not?"

- - Stewart Stewart (remember that from the graffitied subway cars of the early 80s?"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (s2VJv)

JJS, this brings back childhood memories of riding on the 1 Train. Too funny.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 07, 2021 11:00 AM (mdjgu)

282
Unchecked vote fraud is but one pillar of Party power. Let's say I wave my magic wand, and restore a semblance of orderly and lawful elections.

You're still only voting for a Party oligarchy that rules without regard to elections and their consequences - there are no consequences to "winning" or "losing," because there is only one Party.

And, that Party's elected officials have no influence, in any event. The permanent government holds every card. They are only spokesmen. The overall situation is unfixable, with or without clean elections.

If you want a point of reference for what I'm describing here, just think about Donald Trump and Kevin Clinesmith. That's a nice little encapsulation of how this regime operates.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 07, 2021 11:00 AM (FvCkv)

283 My Son has a college degree. He is a Master Plumber, as he makes 5 times the money he was making with his degree in Criminal Justice.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

He own his own business yet? Have a buddy that did that. Apprentice to Master to owning his own business to having a fleet working for him. Now? He buys and flips houses WHILE still owning the plumbing business.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 07, 2021 11:00 AM (OCTRt)

284 Becoming really successful absolutely requires a kolledj degree. For example, look at Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.

*Googles*

Oh, wait!

Exceptions that prove the rule I guess.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 07, 2021 11:01 AM (/uaBM)

285 He own his own business yet? Have a buddy that did that. Apprentice to Master to owning his own business to having a fleet working for him. Now? He buys and flips houses WHILE still owning the plumbing business.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 07, 2021 11:00 AM (OCTRt)

Yeah, he is working in that direction.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 07, 2021 11:02 AM (o2MD2)

286 "Blinken Denies Flights Being Blocked by Taliban, Blames Evacuees for Not Having Proper Identification"

Bannon had on one of the guys funding those flights. He agreed not all had documentation maybe, but claimed they were people known by their networks ... Christian groups partly I guess. He also noted that many/most of the 50,000 (?) the state department brought to America are unvetted, undocumented.

hard to get the real story. Lots of stories say even the documented were blocked at the airport, sent home, given a phone number, or alternate locations. ...

Posted by: illiniwek at September 07, 2021 11:02 AM (Cus5s)

287 And this right here is why boomers are pretty much universally hated by anyone under 40.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at September 07, 2021 10:58 AM (GQ5VU)

*sheds single tear*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 11:03 AM (yQpMk)

288 98 If I could have a redo I would have skipped college and joined the Fire Department like all my Uncles and cousins. My father chose the military.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:24 AM (2DOZq)

My uncle wanted to juice me into the Santa Fe Railroad. But did I listen? Nah.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 07, 2021 11:04 AM (Fs5vw)

289 When I moved to NYC looking to get an entry level job at various advertising agencies, my little known southern Louisiana university degree was not a positive. Nor was my southern accent.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:40 AM (2DOZq)

My aunt got crapped on alot for her Louisiana accent when she did IT work for Saks 5h Ave in the 90s.

Posted by: Mishdog at September 07, 2021 11:07 AM (cqAUI)

290 Nor was my southern accent.
Posted by: Just a side note at September 07, 2021 10:40 AM (2DOZq)

Claim to be a Texan. Everybody likes Waddies.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2021 11:09 AM (yQpMk)

291 Crew Cut,
If you are still here, the problem with Spoonerism is that he relies almost solely on the idea of personal sovereignty. The particular example of his writing that you cite is almost all polemic. That does not make it incorrect but rather incomplete. That is, he recognizes no other authority than himself and like most ideologues, he uses historical examples as argumentation but ignores the reasons why history developed the way that it did.

His notion that every single person over history has to contract with a government for it to be legitimate to that person has already been dealt with by numerous political philosophers such as Rousseau, Locke, etc. In practice, it is impossible--in truth, you will be bound up in obligations--some from the society in which you live, others by your own sense of morality. That is pretty much why the Framers talked of liberty, not so much about freedom. Liberty is something government can deprive you off--but in reality, your freedom can be curtailed by any number of people aside from government, e.g. family, debt, poverty, illness, etc.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2021 11:12 AM (xunV5)

292 FWIW, those numbers are reversed in the hard-STEM disciplines. Women do go into engineering at higher rates, but the math & physical science disciplines only see about a 1:4 ratio of degrees awarded to women vs. men.

When my sister got her PhD in Astrophysics back in the 90's, there were only twelve women in the world who had that degree.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at September 07, 2021 11:18 AM (P3SOV)

293 Can't say I used much of my college degree. The "systems engineering" I did in the computer biz didn't use much of the college engineering material. A better reason is found in the bastardized lyrics to "My bonnie lies over the ocean" which I learned in Navy ROTC:

Some join for their love of the country.
Some join for their love of the sea.
But I was a Regular Rot-see,
I joined for the college degree!

R-O-T-C
Sounds like bullsh!t to me, to me!
R-O-T-C
And bullsh!t it turned out to be!

Posted by: George V at September 07, 2021 11:34 AM (U2Tva)

294 I'd rather be a welder, gun smith, carpenter, electrician, etc than a sociology, etc major from some ivy league school making a living off tips as a bar tender like AOC.

Worse you can always tell these womyn. Fat, ugly, tattooed, carpet lickers, Karens one and all. No wonder so many American men look overseas for real women.

Posted by: Harry at September 07, 2021 12:04 PM (EcD5Y)

295 16 Strippers. Our colleges will produce them by the thousands if they're unable to make it as a Starbucks barista.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trabs Wookie at September 07, 2021 10:06 AM (Uqk0T)

Cafe Risque is located conveniently close to UF at Gainesville -only 12 miles down I-75.

Posted by: Bender at September 07, 2021 12:05 PM (jBoTu)

296
281 168 160 If u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb!
Posted by: No. 7 Line Ad at September 07, 2021 10:37 AM (JPtHE)

"Why not?"

- - Stewart Stewart (remember that from the graffitied subway cars of the early 80s?"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2021 10:38 AM (s2VJv)

JJS, this brings back childhood memories of riding on the 1 Train. Too funny.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 07, 2021 11:00 AM (mdjgu)

I saw that same ad on the Green Lines Queens Blvd bus in the late 60s/Early 70s. Let's go Stanners!

Posted by: Fox2 at September 07, 2021 12:11 PM (jBoTu)

297 Starve the beast. The best scenario would be a government which either 1) bans any and all government money to any institution teaching CRT, discrimination (quotas), and speech codes, and/or 2) no more government-backed student loans. Let these institutions try to get students with their over-inflated tuition or bloated overhead ("diversity officers" as an example.)

Posted by: FKLane Teacher at September 07, 2021 12:20 PM (AmB21)

298 "In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man, if the trend continues."

And they'll be worthless. As will be the degrees.

Posted by: aelfheld at September 07, 2021 12:29 PM (Zy9Yy)

299 >>>where are all of these women going to work?

In academia.

Posted by: m at September 07, 2021 01:07 PM (Y3SPi)

300 I've been to the local VA a number of times over the past 5 years or so. I've seen several doctors and a bunch of nurses and technicians. Not one male. Told my GP about it and he just said "9-5 doctors".

Posted by: Javems at September 07, 2021 01:13 PM (f4xAl)

301 "After six years of college ... a four-year university"
And they write this s**t with a straight face. Oy vey.

Posted by: GWB at September 07, 2021 06:13 PM (8YyYb)

302 Imagine defunding every corrupt aspect of the State. All it takes is sufficient electoral success with candidates of the requisite intensity. MAGA needs to focus on the underclass, with every vote won on our side subtracted from their. Think vouchers, a repurposed military focused on Guard/Reserve training (other than China facing), STEM only educational funding etc. Separate the underclass from the left and you destroy the democrat party. The Moynihan Report identified the destruction of the family as the root cause of (black) community dysfunction. Address this and you win.

Posted by: Larry Dressler at September 08, 2021 01:55 AM (W0MsY)

303 It is the same for the military, no young men I know desire to serve in the military, it's not fear or the discipline it's the gay themes, the obvious waste of effort to even try to fight a war and win.
It is a foolish endeavor that has no benefits.
My families military experience goes back to the 1860's for sure, My Father, Me, My son, My Brother and his sons, but today I tell my grandson's, do not go into the military, and watch what they teach you in college.
They agree.

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