Tuesday Overnight Open Thread (8/31/21)

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The Quotes of The Day


Quote I

“However, I cannot give up on him, even if the defendant has. There is no reason why the defendant cannot approve or authorize other forms of treatments so long as the benefits outweigh the risks.”Julie Smith, wife of Kung Flu patient on ventilator

Quote II

They are trying to tell the world “we are changed and we don’t have problems with women’s rights or human rights” – but they are lying.

The Taliban hasn’t changed, because their ideology hasn’t changed.Artemis Akbary, an Afghan LGBT+ rights activist who now lives in Turkey

Quote III

America has become an authoritarian state, but worse than that it has become a tyranny of the busybody. C.S. Lewis noted that the tyranny of the well-intended is the worst of all tyrannies. “Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” The tyranny of the busybody is where everyone is certain she has a duty to mind your business. The Z Man

Quote IV

So it was a tough decision, a tough couple of days, but we are re-energizing our commitment to the entire government to continue to do what we can to help those that weren’t able to make it out."John Kirby, Professional c**ks**ker Press Secretary for the United States Department of Defense

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Thank you President Trump


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The Sunsettin' Joe Biden Shit Show continues to worsen.

President Joe Biden wanted the now-departed Afghan president to create the 'perception' that his government was capable of holding off the Taliban - an indication he knew it was only a matter of time before the US ally fell to the Islamic group even while reassuring Americans at home that it would not happen.

In the last phone call between Biden and his Afghan then-counterpart Ashraf Ghani, the American president said they needed to change perceptions of the Taliban's rapid advance 'whether it is true or not,' according to excerpts published on Tuesday.

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A funny thing. I don't recall Cindy Sheehan getting banned and suspended from any social media platforms. However, if you are Shana Chappell, mother of Marine Kareem Nikoui you can't protest your child's death caused by Sunsettin' Joe.

Shana Chappell, mother of Marine Kareem Nikoui who was killed in Kabul has had her Instagram account suspended because she was saying mean things about Joe Biden.

California State Senator Melissa Melendez wrote, “Shana Chappell, mother of Marine and American hero Kareem Nikoui killed in Kabul, has had her FB and Instagram accounts suspended for posts she made about her son.”


And if you aren't banned/suspended from big tech. Big news will try to profit from your loss.

ABC News has just done the unimaginable to the commander of the Marines that perished in Kabul.

What the mainstream media company did was just despicable, they profited off Marine Captain Geoff Ball who was mourning the loss of his Marines.

After the deadly attack on the airport Cpt. Ball wrote a very touching Facebook post about his Marines:

Nine of my Marines and Sailors gave their lives so that others may live, and almost 20 other members of the company were wounded by their side. Up until that moment, I did not believe I could ever be more proud of their efforts, by the way they handled the surging crowds and chaos all week, but they proved me wrong. [….]

There is no greater honor for a Marine to be called to save Americans. To be the last on deck as those who need our help are pulled to safety. To lay down our lives for others. That is what my Marines did. They will always be my heroes.

ABC News thought the piece was so touching that they stole it, used Captain Ball’s name, and published it as an op-ed by him, titled “My Fallen Marines Will Always Be My Heroes: Opinion.” The network even created an “author” profile for him on the website all without his permission.


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Did you have plans to visit any California National Parks over the Labor Day Weekend? Time to make some new plans.

Forest Service officials have ordered the immediate closure of California’s 19 national forests through mid-September.

Labor Day weekend plans in the Golden State? Not so fast. California has issued a historic first by closing every national forest within state lines.

The closure, which includes 1,690 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail, goes into effect today, Aug. 31, and will remain in effect until at least Sep. 17.

California’s National Forest Closures
The U.S. Forest Service handled the initial announcement, Regional Order No. 21-07 for the Pacific Southwest Region, on Monday afternoon. The order comes after California’s worst wildfire season was recorded in 2020, when an estimated 4.1 million acres burned.


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I knew Pajama Tuesdays at work was a smart and healthy choice.

Your tie is killing you. That’s not a metaphor for work-life balance; as a recent report by Insider Deutschland notes, your business wardrobe accessory could be responsible for an increase in intraocular eye pressure and an overall risk of infection, among many other health concerns.

The COVID-19 pandemic and the shift to WFH or part-time office work has certainly changed expectations about office dress codes. But maybe it’s time to retire the tie except for strictly formal situations. As Insider writer Qayyah Moynihan notes, “The annoying but seemingly innocuous item of clothing could actually damage your health.”


Pajama Tuesdays = Pajama People. (H/T The Fabulous Mrs. Mis. Hum.)

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It certainly appears that Australia is one step closer to Concentration Camps. WATCH: Father handcuffed for not wearing mask as his young daughter sits on his lap

"He's got a daughter here. She is by herself. Look, the little girl is scared, man," the man filming the incident said. The officers claimed the father had "committed an offense."

On Saturday afternoon, a father walking with his daughter in the Garrison Point Reserve in George's Hall, Australia, was handcuffed by local police after he was found unmasked in Sydney's coronavirus-hit western suburbs.


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The ONT Musical Interlude


Born on this day: 31 Aug 1945
Northern Irish singer, songwriter and musician Van Morrison. Who had with Them, the 1965 UK No.2 single 'Here Comes The Night', and the solo, 1970 album Moondance, plus over 15 other UK Top 40 albums. He has received six Grammy Awards, the 1994 Brit Award for Outstanding Contribution to Music, and has been inducted into both the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Songwriters Hall of Fame. via thisdayinmusic.com

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That's some shitty dope you have there Genius Award Winner.

The Beaufort County Sheriff’s Office arrested a man who they said had cocaine stashed in a very private part of his body.

On Aug. 12, Beaufort County Sheriff’s Office Drug Unit investigators arrested Phillip Rahim Reeves, 39, of 7201 Hwy. 33 in Chocowinity. Reeves was charged with Possession with Intent to Sell and Deliver Marijuana, Possession with Intent to Sell and Deliver Cocaine and Possession of Drug Paraphernalia.

Reeves’ arrest came after complaints about him selling drugs. After a traffic stop and a search by K-9 Bodi, investigators found marijuana and a digital scale in Reeves’ vehicle


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In a perfect world the politicians who violated the church's 1st Amendment rights would personally pay instead of the taxpayers. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

(RNS) — The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors on Tuesday (Aug. 31) voted to authorize a $400,000 payment to settle a legal battle with Grace Community Church over lead pastor John MacArthur’s defiance of COVID-19 restrictions in the early months of the pandemic.

Under the agreement, which the board unanimously approved without discussion, the state of California will also pay the church $400,000.


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1 Nice!

Posted by: lin-duh at August 31, 2021 09:01 PM (UUBmN)

2 HellllllllONT!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at August 31, 2021 09:01 PM (Dc2NZ)

3

Второй!

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 09:01 PM (8/lWk)

4 The most productive day of the week. It's science.

Posted by: mot at August 31, 2021 09:01 PM (n9pm0)

5 Yes!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:01 PM (hOUT3)

6 Yay ONT!

Posted by: rd at August 31, 2021 09:01 PM (Z32m1)

7 That canoe is just waiting for a tragic accident.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:01 PM (mD/uy)

8 I knew it would be like this

Posted by: mindful the psychic webworker at August 31, 2021 09:01 PM (VVgqr)

9 Howdy!

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 09:01 PM (6lKe4)

10 Well done lin-duh!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:02 PM (hOUT3)

11 Evening, Horde...How goes it? Different day, same old hell, apparently, judging by today's posts on this wonderfully weird and wild blog.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 31, 2021 09:02 PM (K5n5d)

12 I love that El Naranja still addresses the American people like the President in Exile that he is.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at August 31, 2021 09:02 PM (Dc2NZ)

13 good evening

Posted by: wing at August 31, 2021 09:02 PM (PlW9M)

14 willowed:
>>> https://tinyurl.com/y57s3c8y
How the National Review Sold Its Soul
Via Insty.
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 08:45 PM (zMjrO)


Emerald, in regards to NR:
"They've been so weak and defeatist during the Trump years that a year's subscription to the magazine could be marketed as an estrogen supplement."

She is dreamy. She's kind of an Ace with girly parts. If Ace and Emerald ever made babies their descendants would take over the world.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 31, 2021 09:03 PM (ZOfsH)

15 Sponge-like!

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 09:03 PM (F0YaR)

16 In while the inning is good!

Posted by: Pikov Andropov (rt0xh) at August 31, 2021 09:04 PM (y7zkd)

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But maybe it's time to retire the tie except for strictly formal situations.

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Men used to wear them all the time and there weren't mountains of dead littering the streets.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2021 09:04 PM (/U27+)

18 Emerald Robinson - oh my!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:05 PM (mD/uy)

19 Old Town Discovery canoe? Maybe in Sylvania, little town of Watersmeet?

Posted by: Clutch at August 31, 2021 09:05 PM (9UmRs)

20 Like the mystery tune: Marcel Marceau on the SG!

Posted by: Pikov Andropov (rt0xh) at August 31, 2021 09:05 PM (y7zkd)

21 I know things are really really bad in my country when I can't read the contents of a MisHum ONT without seeing my blood pressure rise beyond acceptable limits!!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:05 PM (hOUT3)

22 Willowed:
Wolfus!

I'm so happy you're safe and cool and relaxed.

Are your kitties with you?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 31, 2021

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Hi, Nurse! Yep, both Wolf and Chekov are here. Wolf slid out of his carrier and adjusted to the new circumstances in an hour. Chekov, the older cat, threw up a little in his carrier during the trip, and rolled in it -- hardly his fault. So we bathed him in the hotel bath sink. He behaved fine for that. But now he's slid between the wall and the head of the bed and is hiding the way he did when he first came to live with me. I suppose he'll come out sooner or later.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 31, 2021 09:06 PM (quCFJ)

23 Thanks for another girthy ONT, Mis Hum! That photo up top is so lovely and inviting.

Welcome to Target! You have to laugh because otherwise you will cry...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at August 31, 2021 09:07 PM (rwusL)

24 I just pray every day that the eternal failure that is currently slathering drool on the Resolute Desk is finally enough to get us real leadership beyond the margin of fraud starting with 2022.

But you can bet the Dems are already working to up their game on that front.

Posted by: JEM - Let's give Taliban top 500 in Biden Admin trade for the military dogs at August 31, 2021 09:07 PM (8erNz)

25 But looking at the lead ONT photo tends to calm me down!

And I take great comfort that although my ancestors were run out of Ireland, they were NOT sent to Australia!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:07 PM (hOUT3)

26 Evening.

*Last picture*

Ah. Morons in training.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:07 PM (zMjrO)

27 But you can bet the Dems are already working to up their game on that front.
Posted by: JEM - Let's give Taliban top 500 in Biden Admin



Yeah, there will be 300 million votes cast and not a HINT of voter fraud.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 09:08 PM (r1z5A)

28 Evening.

*Last picture*

Ah. Morons in training.
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:07 PM (zMjrO)


Girls just wanna have fun.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 31, 2021 09:08 PM (AiZBA)

29 26 Evening.

*Last picture*

Ah. Morons in training.
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:07 PM (zMjrO)

That's a shitty thing to say... pisses me right off!

/smile

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 31, 2021 09:08 PM (oHd/0)

30 Thanks for the ONT.

I can't help but start feeling itchy looking at the top pick. Mosquitos aplenty.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:08 PM (z4k8L)

31 Men used to wear them all the time and there weren't mountains of dead littering the streets.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2021 09:04 PM (/U27+)


Our judges would also have accepted, "Men used to wear them all the time and drop dead by the wagonload! Every hour of the day, all across this great nation! We were stronger, better people for it!"

Posted by: hogmartin at August 31, 2021 09:09 PM (ghoDT)

32 Your tie is killing you. ...could be responsible for an increase in intraocular eye pressure...

Um...

You're not supposed to have them so tight your eyes bulge out like a cartoon of Rodney Dangerfield.

Posted by: mindful the casually dressing webworker at August 31, 2021 09:09 PM (VVgqr)

33 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 31, 2021 09:09 PM (SchxB)

34 For a couple of seconds there I thought the lead singer for the Alex Harvey Band was actually Michael Palin and that this video was a Monty Python Skit (a clown?). Alas, I was wrong. An actual band. A decent one too. It was the early 70s, man. Clowns played lead guitar all the time while high.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 31, 2021 09:09 PM (QFVV9)

35 Covid reality creeps in. Herd immunity is kaput; we are all gonna get it, just like the common cold.

Dr. John Campbell's update today: https://youtu.be/JhRb5hnTseU

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 31, 2021 09:10 PM (4I/2K)

36 When National Review cancelled Mark Steyn and Ann Coulter, we should have known.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:10 PM (mbFEM)

37 Hiden doesn't even have the mental horsepower to be a Wall-Mart greeter. They have to be constantly active, recognizing people, wishing them well, offering a basket, answering questions, and not sniffing people.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:10 PM (W+kMI)

38 hello fappers

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 31, 2021 09:10 PM (sJHOI)

39 But looking at the lead ONT photo tends to calm me down!
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Whets my appetite!

Posted by: A bear at August 31, 2021 09:10 PM (ELgVT)

40 27 But you can bet the Dems are already working to up their game on that front.
Posted by: JEM - Let's give Taliban top 500 in Biden Admin

Yeah, there will be 300 million votes cast and not a HINT of voter fraud.
Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 09:08 PM (r1z5A)

They did not need a 'game' this last time aside from blatant theft, mass media triumphalism and calling anyone who disagreed a traitor.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:11 PM (z4k8L)

41 Thanks Mishum. Top shelf per usual. Going back to sleep. No energy to play in the grey boxes.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * enjoying Mr. Ed's apple flavored toothpaste at August 31, 2021 09:11 PM (m29VP)

42 Hey there, ONT dwellers! Greetings Mis Hum!

Posted by: Doof at August 31, 2021 09:11 PM (mZUr4)

43 I always liked wearing a suit and tie. Feels... right, somehow. Except when it is hot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (z4k8L)

44 If I may be so bold as to correct CS Lewis, the worst tyranny isn't that of the well-intended.


It's the tyranny of those who PRETEND to be well-intended.


It's all lies and deceit.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (Owx4w)

45 She is dreamy. She's kind of an Ace with girly parts. If Ace and Emerald ever made babies their descendants would take over the world.
Posted by: banana Dream at August 31, 2021 09:03 PM (ZOfsH)


You are presuming that ace and Emerald Robinson are not the same person. Or that ER is not a vtube cgi avatar for ace.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (mbFEM)

46 I just want you guys to know that tonight, I've been particularly down, super despondent, and really, really dark.

I got hammered, stayed up WAY past my bed time, and just ordered Papa Johns. We'll see how it goes.

Here's my glimmer (we've almost all of us got a glimmer. It's what keeps us from eating our guns.):

Most things in life don't work out. But some do. The secret is to love the possibilities.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (cvNl1)

47
COVID case numbers reported in my county have been flat for the last few days. I expect they'll start falling soon. Then what will they use to panic us?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (/U27+)

48 When National Review cancelled Mark Steyn and Ann Coulter, we should have known.
Posted by: blaster
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Derbyshire

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (ELgVT)

49 The bottom photo, are those girls doing swirlies, drinking out of the toilet, or upchucking from last night's drunk?

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (+lVUW)

50 "However, I cannot give up on him, even if the defendant has. There is no reason why the defendant cannot approve or authorize other forms of treatments so long as the benefits outweigh the risks."

Well, since he's near death's door after weeks on a vent, his chances are pretty poor -- and ivermectin works best if administered early on (from what I've read), but I hope it helps somehow.

Publius has been making good points all day about WHY hospitals are refusing 'unauthorized' treatment options... in a word, "liability". Fucking ambulance chasers. *yes, I know there some good lawyers*

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (F0YaR)

51 I love that El Naranja still addresses the American people like the President in Exile that he is.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at August 31, 2021 09:02 PM



Some still speak of El Naranja and say that one day he will return...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (8/lWk)

52 >>>Emerald Robinson - oh my!
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:05 PM (mD/uy)

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How you doing?

*in best Joey Tribbiani voice*

Posted by: It wasn't me at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (XVHdW)

53 Derbyshire
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (ELgVT)


I was just thinking that. Yes, that was the first distant early warning. Oh, we cannot consort with those oogie types!

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:13 PM (mbFEM)

54 Ah, Donald, you are a greater President by the day. Way to go #45, the real man and President.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:13 PM (W+kMI)

55 Hey everybody. Hey ONT.

Really dumbshit of ABC not to get permission before running their piece.

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 09:13 PM (L2ZTs)

56 48 When National Review cancelled Mark Steyn and Ann Coulter, we should have known.
Posted by: blaster
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Derbyshire
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (ELgVT)

When your heads starts getting into a debate with VDH on morals and honor, you might want to take stock.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:13 PM (z4k8L)

57 Good evening y'all! Thanks for the ONT Mis Hum!

Oh my goodness........I miss President Trump

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 31, 2021 09:14 PM (/UQ/R)

58 I remember back in high school German there was a phrase 'so formel in den Formloesigkeit' or some such that was basically 'Germans don't know how to NOT be formal' then you get PJ O'Rourke ragging on male German beachgoers for tiny Speedos and purses...

I think the last time I wore a tie to a restaurant for something that wasn't a wedding or wake was in Germany something over a decade ago.

Posted by: JEM - Let's give Taliban top 500 in Biden Admin trade for the military dogs at August 31, 2021 09:14 PM (8erNz)

59 Grace Community Church is no joke. When we lived in CA, we visited the church at the invitation of our real estate broker. Packed with people, classrooms full of kids going to Sunday School.

MacArthur's famous for preaching sermons which through the *entire* Bible, verse by verse, over a period of years. He gave a church report going over how 2020 went for Grace, and he said that the church grew in members and donations during the pandemic closures, and they won every battle fought against the state. He stood tall when most churches in the country could not - or would not.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2021 09:15 PM (mdjgu)

60 California is allowed to close Federally owned National Parks ?

Posted by: Just a side note at August 31, 2021 09:15 PM (2DOZq)

61 Ah. Morons in training.
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu


Took little man to a motocross, ORV stunt display Sunday...No body took a knee, everyone stood for the Star Spangled Banner, a moment of silence for the Fallen, Veterans and families of those Serving please stand and be acknowledged...real display of why we're deplorable.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 09:15 PM (r1z5A)

62 The bottom photo, are those girls doing swirlies, drinking out of the toilet, or upchucking from last night's drunk?
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (+lVUW)

That's not going to be the only time in that little girl's life with her head in a toilet and her panties around her ankles.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:16 PM (zMjrO)

63 That boat is mine!

Posted by: Wally the Walrus at August 31, 2021 09:16 PM (4I/2K)

64 Also, on topic: Ties. I wear ties, and rock the hell out of a nice suit. I, as a straight, white man, have had black ladies stop me in the p-ways, look me up and down, and say, whilst gesturing at my clothes, "honey... yes."

I take that as a massive compliment. I dress well. I enjoy looking nice. Few things look nicer than a man who is well put together, in a tailored suit.

If only fedoras would come back. I'd rock the shit out of that.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:16 PM (cvNl1)

65 If only fedoras would come back. I'd rock the shit out of that.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:16 PM (cvNl1)


Shakos.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 31, 2021 09:17 PM (ghoDT)

66 Does anyone have nearsiders contact info?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 31, 2021 09:17 PM (/UQ/R)

67 I don't even own a sport jacket, let alone a suit. Not sure what I'll wear to Dad's funeral. prolly not my Bill the Cat t-shirt.

BTW, thank all of you for all the kind words last night and this morning. My mom appreciates it too, even though she thinks this site makes no sense. Like others say, there's no way to explain it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 31, 2021 09:17 PM (4l77G)

68 Thank you, President Trump. May God continue to bless you and may He continue to bless our great nation.

John Kirby - there is a mighty, all-powerful and merciful God. It is time for you to get acquainted with Him and seek His everlasting grace and forgiveness, lest you discover the eternal fruits of your traitorous actions against your fellow citizens.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at August 31, 2021 09:18 PM (rwusL)

69 Doesn't Max Boot wear a fedora? He looks like a fag.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:18 PM (zMjrO)

70 To heck with the girls dunking their heads in the toilet!! Where are their masks?!

Posted by: CPS we WILL take your kids at August 31, 2021 09:18 PM (r1z5A)

71 lso, on topic: Ties. I wear ties, and rock the hell out of a nice suit. I, as a straight, white man, have had black ladies stop me in the p-ways, look me up and down, and say, whilst gesturing at my clothes, "honey... yes."

I take that as a massive compliment. I dress well. I enjoy looking nice. Few things look nicer than a man who is well put together, in a tailored suit.

If only fedoras would come back. I'd rock the shit out of that.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:16 PM (cvNl1)


Look sharp. Feel sharp.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 31, 2021 09:18 PM (AiZBA)

72
Took little man to a motocross, ORV stunt display Sunday...No body took a knee, everyone stood for the Star Spangled Banner

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Dog show this last weekend. Color guard and the National Anthem. Even the dogs stood at attention.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2021 09:18 PM (/U27+)

73 Does anyone have nearsiders contact info?
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 31, 2021 09:17 PM (/UQ/R)


Pretty sure it's linked in his nick.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 31, 2021 09:18 PM (ghoDT)

74 Ah, Kalifornia. Plan to reduce wildfire risk by shutting legal & law-abiding citizens out of all the state parks for two weeks. Let cartel pot growers, meth-heads, winos, and illegals continue to camp in them anyway.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:19 PM (W+kMI)

75 I admire John McArthur. He is a man of God.

Also, what a darling little girl.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 31, 2021 09:19 PM (eJn7u)

76 Anyone hear from Mrs. Peel since Sunday?

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:19 PM (mbFEM)

77 If only fedoras would come back. I'd rock the shit out of that.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider

If I had access to the COBs' time machine, I'd go back to a early 1950s MLB afternoon game where most of the men would wear a suit and fedora.

Good times, good times.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:19 PM (mD/uy)

78 If only fedoras would come back. I'd rock the shit out of that.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider


Me and my mostly bald head agree.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 09:19 PM (r1z5A)

79 The girls go crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man.

Posted by: ZZ Top at August 31, 2021 09:19 PM (Owx4w)

80 Washington nearsider.....if you need to talk....email me

wds dot aoshq at proton mail dot com

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 31, 2021 09:20 PM (/UQ/R)

81 75 I admire John McArthur. He is a man of God.

Also, what a darling little girl.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 31, 2021 09:19 PM (eJn7u)


You start out by complimenting him, and then BOOM you slam the heck out of him!

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:20 PM (mbFEM)

82 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 31, 2021 09:17 PM (4l77G)

So sorry to hear about your dad passing.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 09:20 PM (aA3+G)

83 >>> I think the last time I wore a tie to a restaurant for something that wasn't a wedding or wake was in Germany something over a decade ago.
Posted by: JEM - Let's give Taliban top 500 in Biden Admin trade for the military dogs at August 31, 2021 09:14 PM (8erNz)


Back 30 years ago at work, I had a desk tie&jacket in case an exec asked to speak to me. This required one to pretty much wear slacks and dress shirts every day but that was the rule anyway. This rarely happened. But my boss would play a prank on me where he'd call from the chief engineer's office or a program exec and ask me to come in for a talk. So I'd grab the jacket and tie and think, oh shit what among the 50 different things I probably screwed up is this about. I get in there and they're all standing around with stern looks. Then one cracks a smile and says congrats here's a bonus for getting blahblahblah done ahead of schedule.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 31, 2021 09:20 PM (ZOfsH)

84 Van Morrison, Northern Irish singer, as opposed to Southern Ireland?

Posted by: Clutch at August 31, 2021 09:21 PM (9UmRs)

85 Doesn't Max Boot wear a fedora? He looks like a fag.
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:18 PM (zMjrO)


But it does draw attention away from his soft, cushiony, knuckle-friendly face.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 31, 2021 09:21 PM (ghoDT)

86 It got a little dusty here as I watched President Trump's speech; freakin' allergies.

35 Covid reality creeps in. Herd immunity is kaput; we are all gonna get it, just like the common cold.

Dr. John Campbell's update today: https://youtu.be/JhRb5hnTseU

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 31, 2021 09:10 PM (4I/2K)


It's a highly contagious respiratory virus. We were and are all destined to catch a piece of it. I've believed that for well over a year.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 09:21 PM (F0YaR)

87 I wear fedoras. And I give zero fuks whether they are out of style or not.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 31, 2021 09:21 PM (eJn7u)

88 49 The bottom photo, are those girls doing swirlies, drinking out of the toilet, or upchucking from last night's drunk?
=====
Remember Chris Rock on the duty of making sure daughters don't grow up to be strippers?

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:21 PM (W+kMI)

89 Mrs Peel was on an earlier thread.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 31, 2021 09:21 PM (2NHgQ)

90 Look sharp. Feel sharp.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 31, 2021 09:18 PM (AiZBA)


If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:21 PM (mbFEM)

91 >>>If only fedoras would come back. I'd rock the shit out of that.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:16 PM (cvNl1)

Look sharp. Feel sharp.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 31, 2021 09:18 PM (AiZBA)

Obligatory: https://youtu.be/XtKydtoLucc

Posted by: It wasn't me at August 31, 2021 09:21 PM (XVHdW)

92 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son

Sorry to hear about your dad...strength brother.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 09:22 PM (r1z5A)

93 Also, on topic: Ties. I wear ties, and rock the hell out of a nice suit. I, as a straight, white man, have had black ladies stop me in the p-ways, look me up and down, and say, whilst gesturing at my clothes, "honey... yes."

I take that as a massive compliment. I dress well. I enjoy looking nice. Few things look nicer than a man who is well put together, in a tailored suit.

If only fedoras would come back. I'd rock the shit out of that.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:16 PM (cvNl1)

I'm lumpy and off-proportioned. Tailors dismay.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 31, 2021 09:23 PM (4I/2K)

94 Most things in life don't work out. But some do. The secret is to love the possibilities.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (cvNl1)


Always be looking forward...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 31, 2021 09:23 PM (ZSK0i)

95 Mrs Peel was on an earlier thread.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine


Does she know.....we're needed?

Posted by: John Steed at August 31, 2021 09:23 PM (tjZg/)

96 If my daughters become strippers I expect you all to leave big tips.

Posted by: Robert doesn't have kids, but still... - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:23 PM (zMjrO)

97 Look sharp. Feel sharp.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 31, 2021 09:18 PM (AiZBA)

This is a real thing. I'm in federal law enforcement (not the FBI), and there are times when I just know that 'today's a day I'm gonna rock the shit out of this suit.'

I pick one of my two faves and get after it. Never goes awry.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:23 PM (cvNl1)

98 60 California is allowed to close Federally owned National Parks ?
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At a second reading, the U.S. Forest Service said to close the National Forests. California still had to acknowledge and enforce the closings. My above comments still stands though.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:24 PM (W+kMI)

99 I love a man in a well tailored suit. You don't see it very much anymore. I do see lots of cheap or ill fitting clothes on men. Not a good look...

Posted by: lin-duh at August 31, 2021 09:24 PM (UUBmN)

100 I'm lumpy and off-proportioned. Tailors dismay.
Posted by: Count de Monet

This calls for "Samurai Tailor!"

The best gag of that entire skit was the gestures asking "Dress right or dress left."

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:24 PM (mD/uy)

101 Anyone hear from Mrs. Peel since Sunday?
Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:19 PM (mbFEM)
Mrs Peel was on an earlier thread.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 31, 2021 09:21 PM (2NHgQ)


Thanks, I (and I am sure many others) was worried about her!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:24 PM (hOUT3)

102

I own neither a suit nor a tie nor a fedora...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 09:25 PM (8/lWk)

103 Poor Parenting Skills.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:00 PM

I call foul! That is awesome parenting! The kids are having a blast, making a huge mess (which is their jobs as children) and probably improving their immune systems!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2021 09:25 PM (Q9lwr)

104 Al Pacino Approved ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/media

*scroll down

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2021 09:25 PM (qAR6u)

105 If my daughters become strippers I expect you all to leave big tips.
Posted by: Robert doesn't have kids, but still...

If she can pluck a $20 out of a beer bottle without using her hands, count on it!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:25 PM (mD/uy)

106 Imma horde-source my questions. Any ideas on how long it should take a ureter to recover from having a stone blasted out of it? Also, what does one do to prevent having said stone return another time? Do I trust these websites with their lists of funny food, or do I just drink water like it is my job and pee every 15 minutes for the rest of my life?

The doctor was remarkably short on answers.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (SDdx5)

107 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son

Sorry for your loss, but I am sure your actions made him proud!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (hOUT3)

108 People love to bust out that CS Lewis quote about the tyranny of good intentions. I don't believe for a moment that our adversaries have good intentions. If they did, they would take their own medicine. But they seldom do. Think of all the maskless events excused and those not. The unvaccinated who go unmentioned while select groups are targeted. These motherfuckers don't mean anyone well.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (QU5/8)

109 Bing news crawl says Tucker Carlson is inciting violence.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (Owx4w)

110 John McArthur, my go-to radio preacher.

Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (0OP+5)

111 99 I love a man in a well tailored suit. You don't see it very much anymore. I do see lots of cheap or ill fitting clothes on men. Not a good look...
Posted by: lin-duh at August 31, 2021 09:24 PM (UUBmN)

Sizes have gone weird. I am not talking about the waist side changes (those I get.) But my legs have not changed fucking length!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (z4k8L)

112 Don't read US papers. I do check out the Daily Mail. They keep hammering preezy pudding head. He getting any blowback domestically?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (2NHgQ)

113 I do see lots of cheap or ill fitting clothes on men.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 31, 2021 09:24 PM (UUBmN)

Good tailoring is sometimes difficult to find, and can be almost as expensive as the suit.

But...a good tailor is amazing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (Q9lwr)

114 Also, what does one do to prevent having said stone return another time?

...

The doctor was remarkably short on answers.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (SDdx5)


That one's easy. Slap hot iron to it.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (mbFEM)

115 I call foul! That is awesome parenting! The kids are having a blast, making a huge mess (which is their jobs as children) and probably improving their immune systems!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2021 09:25 PM (Q9lwr)


This comment explains so very much!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (hOUT3)

116 I'm lumpy and off-proportioned. Tailors dismay.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 31, 2021 09:23 PM (4I/2K)

I'm the douchebag who has a tailor. It's one of my guilty pleasures/vices. Holy fuck, do I look better in properly tailored stuff. I imagine we all do.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (cvNl1)

117 It's a highly contagious respiratory virus. We were and are all destined to catch a piece of it. I've believed that for well over a year.
Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 09:21 PM (F0YaR)

The Narrative is being forced to adjust to reality. The Horde abides.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (4I/2K)

118 He getting any blowback domestically?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine

Well, Veep Throat is in the next office over so. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (mD/uy)

119 I call foul! That is awesome parenting! The kids are having a blast, making a huge mess (which is their jobs as children) and probably improving their immune systems!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2021 09:25 PM (Q9lwr)

Sure let the kids drink toilet bowl water, but don't dare put maple syrup on French toast.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (aA3+G)

120 My dear old Dad, beatnik folkie geezer that he is, still puts on a coat and tie for Sunday services. And he looks good in it, too. (So says Mom, at any rate.) Me, not so much. Although I will still wear coat & tie to a wedding or funeral. It feels required then.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:28 PM (W+kMI)

121 Every day now ...for the REST of his days....Jimmy Carter knows he will not go down in history as the worst President ever.

Posted by: torabora at August 31, 2021 09:28 PM (8zKjz)

122 Sizes have gone weird. I am not talking about the waist side changes (those I get.) But my legs have not changed fucking length!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (z4k8L)


Metric tailors cannot get it right!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:28 PM (hOUT3)

123 Most things in life don't work out. But some do. The secret is to love the possibilities.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (cvNl1)
* * * *
Ah yes! In my experience, more things work out than don't. And sometimes when things don't seem to work out, it is because greater things are in store for us.

The possibilities you encounter are endless. May you delight in discovering each and every one of them!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at August 31, 2021 09:28 PM (rwusL)

124
If only fedoras would come back. I'd rock the shit out of that.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider


Wear a green fedora.

https://youtu.be/ztA0AJxHqQ8

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2021 09:28 PM (63Dwl)

125 Pug Mahon, my condolences.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 31, 2021 09:28 PM (/+bwe)

126 I was reading about a bunch of the major 'Stan figures which I hadn't in a while. A couple of interesting points;

Massood, Reagan's guy, had kept the former communist dictator alive, though confined to the UN compound. He seemed to have some sort of long term plan to use him later.

When the Taliban was heading for Kabul, because unlike Biden Massood wasn't an idiot and could actually read intelligence reports, Massood realized that the commie guy was dead meat if he left him there.

So...he gave him the freedom to leave. And...the commie guy, Nasrallah...choose not to take it...and the Taliban killed him of course.

It does make me wonder how different the last 20 years would have been with Massood leading 'Stan instead of Karzai.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 09:29 PM (DpkTQ)

127 That one's easy. Slap hot iron to it.
Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (mbFEM)

I'd have thought the Moses laser pretty much took care of that part. I was somewhat disappointed to find out I did NOT have laser light shooting out of my eyeballs.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:29 PM (SDdx5)

128 The doctor was remarkably short on answers.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (SDdx5)

Drink at least two-three liters/day, take potassium citrate, and find a new doctor.

There are plenty of things you can do.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2021 09:29 PM (Q9lwr)

129 The doctor was remarkably short on answers.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (SDdx5)

I'm actually an SME here. I get kidney stones every five years or so, in alternating kidneys. It's not diet, it's blood chemistry. The biggest was 7.2mm, but the worst was only about 3mm. It got stuck in my ureter, and they had to go get it.

I got the stent with the string in my bladder that they had to go through the urethra to remove. It's been three years, and I still sometimes get weird twinges on that side...

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:29 PM (cvNl1)

130 He getting any blowback domestically?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (2NHgQ)

No, Comrade

Posted by: Pravda West at August 31, 2021 09:29 PM (+I6Y/)

131 Imma horde-source my questions. Any ideas on how long it should take a ureter to recover from having a stone blasted out of it? Also, what does one do to prevent having said stone return another time? Do I trust these websites with their lists of funny food, or do I just drink water like it is my job and pee every 15 minutes for the rest of my life?

The doctor was remarkably short on answers.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (SDdx5)

Kidney stones? Depends on what they're made of?

I think mine were uric acid which means can't do shit.

A couple of bottles of water a day won't kill ya.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:30 PM (zMjrO)

132 The doctor was remarkably short on answers.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (SDdx5)

Water is kind of the key. As far as size and ureter, the largest stone I have ever passed was 4.5mm. NOT fun (although when I plinked the little bastard out, there were many endorphins. Very, very strange experience.) I did not notice too many ill effects right after. Did not even pass blood.

Watch out for trigger foods. Uric or calcium stones? Struvite?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:30 PM (z4k8L)

133 I got the stent with the string in my bladder that they had to go through the urethra to remove. It's been three years, and I still sometimes get weird twinges on that side...
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider

Jeebus Dr. WN - I cringed just reading that.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:30 PM (mD/uy)

134 It does make me wonder how different the last 20 years would have been with Massood leading 'Stan instead of Karzai.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 09:29 PM (DpkTQ)


That the "right" people would not have been getting that sweet graft for the past twenty years is the only real difference!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (hOUT3)

135 If she can pluck a $20 out of a beer bottle without using her hands, count on it!
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:25 PM (mD/uy)

With her cooch.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (zMjrO)

136 Covid reality creeps in. Herd immunity is kaput; we are all gonna get it, just like the common cold.

So everyone who's already had it is an early adopter?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (SchxB)

137 good night horde

Posted by: wing at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (PlW9M)

138 >>>I call foul! That is awesome parenting! The kids are having a blast, making a huge mess (which is their jobs as children) and probably improving their immune systems!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2021 09:25 PM (Q9lwr)

=====

You're not wrong. My parents would have been thrilled if that was the only thing me and my 6 siblings did.

Posted by: It wasn't me at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (XVHdW)

139 maple syrup on French toast.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (aA3+G)

Now THAT is filthy, and definitely bad parenting!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (Q9lwr)

140 100 I'm lumpy and off-proportioned. Tailors dismay.
Posted by: Count de Monet


I watch old Perry Mason episodes. Raymond Burr was heavy, but he always wore well fitting suits, and he always looked good.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (+lVUW)

141 Any of you guys remember Microprose? Did you know they are still around? I didn't. Just saw that they are publishing a game that looks to be a throwback to their older titles. Looks pretty fun.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1347550/
Tiny_Combat_Arena/

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (DXFDM)

142 112 Don't read US papers. I do check out the Daily Mail. They keep hammering preezy pudding head. He getting any blowback domestically?
=========
Hiden messed up so bad they've been obliged to actually report on it. Even though there has been an effort to kinda-sorta go easy on him. Mostly I think the papers are praying for the NFL season to open so that Hanoi 2021 will go away. It of course won't go away any time soon, due to a lot of angry families and Anniversary #20 of 9/11 around the corner.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (W+kMI)

143 The doctor was remarkably short on answers.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (SDdx5)

Drink at least two-three liters/day, take potassium citrate, and find a new doctor.

There are plenty of things you can do.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2021 09:29 PM (Q9lwr)

avoid consuming mass quantities of Dr Pepper.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (4I/2K)

144 My water bottle is 24 oz and I clear four of those a day, more when it's warm out. Not sure water was the answer. The stone is calcium I'm told.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (SDdx5)

145 Time for Commiefornia to ban outdoor cooking.
Just another tool to prevent fire and control the masses.

Posted by: torabora at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (8zKjz)

146 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2021 09:28 PM (63Dwl)

And thanks for that...

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (cvNl1)

147 Every day now ...for the REST of his days....Jimmy Carter knows he will not go down in history as the worst President ever.
Posted by: torabora at August 31, 2021 09:28 PM (8zKjz)

In the annals of Worst President in my Lifetime, Jimmy Carter ranks 3rd.

SMFH

Posted by: tbodie at August 31, 2021 09:32 PM (5nCvD)

148 tcn in AK,

I had a stone after having my second child. 2 trips to the ER and finally some lithotripsy and I was fine. Haven't had a stone since. No change in diet. Did they say what type of stone you had? Hopefully it was just a one time thing like mine.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 31, 2021 09:32 PM (UUBmN)

149 And then I also read about Dostum - the guy profiled in the movie 12 Strong - was apparently accused of rape by one of his male political opponents in 2018.

True? Who knows, but it seems an odd story for the nominal victim to tell if not true...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 09:32 PM (DpkTQ)

150 Bing news crawl says Tucker Carlson is inciting violence.
Posted by: davidt


Inciting? Gosh, the left blew past that road marker years ago.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 09:32 PM (r1z5A)

151 This is what winning looks like.

Posted by: Biden at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (vbIkY)

152 133 I got the stent with the string in my bladder that they had to go through the urethra to remove. It's been three years, and I still sometimes get weird twinges on that side...
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider

Jeebus Dr. WN - I cringed just reading that.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:30 PM (mD/uy)

Yeah, they yanked out the stent yesterday. Creepy feeling, and now it hurts more than it did then. Bizarre way to fix a stupid problem. And I'm still waiting to have ailments that are, um, a little more dignified.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (SDdx5)

153 In the annals of Worst President in my Lifetime, Jimmy Carter ranks 3rd.

SMFH
Posted by: tbodie

True. Be we can still, no matter how dark the times appear, take solace in the fact that the Hildabeast will never be president.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (mD/uy)

154 Jeebus Dr. WN - I cringed just reading that.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:30 PM (mD/uy)

I told the urologist when he asked if I wanted to either break it up or try to pass it naturally. After he described the process I said: You seem like a nice guy, doc- but I do not really want you spelunking up my dick with a camera crew if I can avoid it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (z4k8L)

155 PSA PSA - Labor Day Deals are up!

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (mbFEM)

156 Sure let the kids drink toilet bowl water, but don't dare put maple syrup on French toast.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 09:27 PM (aA3+G)


Lol. One has electrolytes.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (F0YaR)

157 Microprose...first pc game I purchased was Red Storm Rising

Posted by: a dude in MI at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (+I6Y/)

158 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son
* * * *
Prayers up for you, your dear mother and your family, Pug. The loss is a hard one and I pray you find comfort in knowing you were with your dad when he needed you most. He lies in the loving arms of his Savior and is waiting to see you in Heaven one fine day!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (rwusL)

159 Thank you for posting my favorite SRV performance, which also happens to be one of the greatest feats of musicianship in human history.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (n8fCP)

160 Be we can still, no matter how dark the times appear, take solace in the fact that the Hildabeast will never be president.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (mD/uy)


To be fair, scant solace at best, but still solace!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (hOUT3)

161
That the "right" people would not have been getting that sweet graft for the past twenty years is the only real difference!


I'm not so sure. Massood wasn't just another grifter.

Obviously he failed the first time running the country, but it wasn't for the reasons Karzai did.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (DpkTQ)

162 140 100 I'm lumpy and off-proportioned. Tailors dismay.
Posted by: Count de Monet

I watch old Perry Mason episodes. Raymond Burr was heavy, but he always wore well fitting suits, and he always looked good.
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (+lVUW)

A good tailor can make anybody look good. It's worth paying for, if you need to wear a suit.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (SDdx5)

163 Pug, condolences.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (zMjrO)

164 I watch old Perry Mason episodes. Raymond Burr was heavy, but he always wore well fitting suits, and he always looked good.
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (+lVUW)

TV show / movie magic.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (4I/2K)

165 Creepy feeling, and now it hurts more than it did then. Bizarre way to fix a stupid problem. And I'm still waiting to have ailments that are, um, a little more dignified.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (SDdx5)

Upside - You're into the easy part.
Downside - the older we get, the more undignified our ailments become.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (cvNl1)

166 Australia is one step closer to Concentration Camps

Their LEO certainly seem to take pleasure in brownshirting.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (Xrfse)

167

I've read that vodka does a sovereign job of dissolving/preventing renal calculi...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 09:35 PM (8/lWk)

168 153 In the annals of Worst President in my Lifetime, Jimmy Carter ranks 3rd.

SMFH
Posted by: tbodie

True. Be we can still, no matter how dark the times appear, take solace in the fact that the Hildabeast will never be president.
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Well, there is that bright spot. makes me smile every time I remember it. Admittedly, the Hildabeast would only have done what Hiden has done, just4 years earlier, and with less tact and attention to detail.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:35 PM (W+kMI)

169 Good evening, Horde.

Posted by: Ladyl at August 31, 2021 09:35 PM (TdMsT)

170 "the American president said they needed to change perceptions of the Taliban's rapid advance 'whether it is true or not,' according to excerpts published on Tuesday."

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I'm pretty sure they impeached Trump for a more innocuous phone call than that.

Posted by: 496 at August 31, 2021 09:36 PM (U1eOr)

171 I do not really want you spelunking up my dick with a camera crew if I can avoid it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (z4k8L)

That's why they knock you out cold. Still creepy, but at least you don't have to experience the torture part. But then, they take out the stent while you are wide awake, so... yeah. Ick.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:36 PM (SDdx5)

172 Upside - You're into the easy part.
Downside - the older we get, the more undignified our ailments become.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider

My wife describes it thusly:

Everything that should be dry is wet.
Everything that should be wet is dry.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:36 PM (mD/uy)

173 avoid consuming mass quantities of Dr Pepper.
Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (4I/2K)

that's very true.

Years ago, I had two stones in a year, so I studied everything I could to try and keep it from happening again. HFCS kept coming up in everything I looked at, so I did all I could to eradicate it from my diet - which meant saying goodbye to all the cokes and dr. peppers and other things that I used to like so much.

15 years later, I've never had another stone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 31, 2021 09:36 PM (WmVfO)

174 >>>In the annals of Worst President in my Lifetime, Jimmy Carter ranks 3rd.

SMFH
Posted by: tbodie at August 31, 2021 09:32 PM (5nCvD)

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Yep. Never would have though possible.

Posted by: It wasn't me at August 31, 2021 09:36 PM (XVHdW)

175 You seem like a nice guy, doc- but I do not really want you spelunking up my dick with a camera crew if I can avoid it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (z4k8L)

Yeah, this one got stuck. One razor sharp edge of the stone embedded itself in the wall of my ureter so I started to go septic. It was a hell of a thing.

I will say this - I've got holes in me I didn't start with, thanks to the war. Kidney stones are the worst pain I've ever experienced. By a lot.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:36 PM (cvNl1)

176 Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 09:34 PM (DpkTQ)

I was talking about the "right" people in the US, but I take your point!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:36 PM (hOUT3)

177 144 My water bottle is 24 oz and I clear four of those a day, more when it's warm out. Not sure water was the answer. The stone is calcium I'm told.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (SDdx5)

Eh, this is all shit I have heard cobbled together from different sources and it has seemed to work (I still get stones, but not an actual insanely painful stoppage):
-avoid soda
-drink water
-I have heard prune juice works, but I can never stomach the shit.
-cranberry juice seems to help me when my ureter gets irritated when a stone is moving through. May be psychosomatic, but it 'seems' to help. And not the juice cocktail crap. 100% or the simply cranberry (watch out, it will have a laxative effect that no one told me about.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:37 PM (z4k8L)

178 I call foul! That is awesome parenting! The kids are having a blast, making a huge mess (which is their jobs as children) and probably improving their immune systems!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2021 09:25 PM (Q9lwr)


There used to be some saying that children should eat a pound of dirt before they reached a certain age.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 09:37 PM (+lVUW)

179 If only fedoras would come back. I'd rock the shit out of that.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider

WORD!

Posted by: Zombie Tom Landry at August 31, 2021 09:37 PM (5nCvD)

180 I've read that vodka does a sovereign job of dissolving/preventing renal calculi...
Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 09:35 PM (8/lWk)

Now we're getting somewhere.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:37 PM (SDdx5)

181 tcn. 20 years of diverticulitis with 13 episodes and eventually surgery. I know what you mean, nothing dignified about those 20 years.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 31, 2021 09:37 PM (2NHgQ)

182 175 You seem like a nice guy, doc- but I do not really want you spelunking up my dick with a camera crew if I can avoid it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (z4k8L)

Yeah, this one got stuck. One razor sharp edge of the stone embedded itself in the wall of my ureter so I started to go septic. It was a hell of a thing.

I will say this - I've got holes in me I didn't start with, thanks to the war. Kidney stones are the worst pain I've ever experienced. By a lot.
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The above post was one of the most painful things I've read this year.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (W+kMI)

183 I told the urologist when he asked if I wanted to either break it up or try to pass it naturally. After he described the process I said: You seem like a nice guy, doc- but I do not really want you spelunking up my dick with a camera crew if I can avoid it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

Beer out the nose and all over the monitor.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (Kx3kq)

184 >>>My wife describes it thusly:

Everything that should be dry is wet.
Everything that should be wet is dry.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:36 PM (mD/uy)

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Not only that. Like my dad, when they removed the catheter, they had a nurse-in-training there to do the procedure.

Posted by: It wasn't me at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (XVHdW)

185 In the annals of Worst President in my Lifetime, Jimmy Carter ranks 3rd.
Posted by: tbodie
I was born in 1955, so if I were to rank the WORST Presidents that I have seen, it would be
1) Joe Biden
2) Barack Obama
3) Lyndon Johnson
4) John F. Kennedy
5) Jimmy Carter
6) George W. Bush
7) George H.W. Bush
Richard Nixon
And frankly, the worst part of Richard Nixon was his stonewalling on the Watergate break-in, which he did not authorize, but was done by his staff (John Dean) and he was protection his Administration. in retrospect, that was his biggest mistake.

Posted by: John Steed at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (tjZg/)

186 is there some way we could Just go back to the old hq that was smart, vulgar, and funny, and not a supprt grp for guys with no friends?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (K3ZCc)

187 Guys! Gals!

Listen to us! We're talking like a bunch of non-29 year olds.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (mD/uy)

188 So why didn't we limit the a gan army to just Afgan Christians? "Hey we just armed your worst enemy to the teeth."

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (r1z5A)

189 The Boswell spawn said it best...hats are for guys with no hair...

Posted by: Boswell at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (5iUNf)

190 Speaking of Massood and his attempt at an anti-Taliban 'Stan government...was there ever a serious analysis by the Nat Sec types as to why it failed?

My vague memory is that Pakistan gave the Taliban a ton of money while Clinton cut off Massood and he couldn't manage to keep a strong enough army to fight them off.

Presumably there is more to it then that however...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 09:39 PM (DpkTQ)

191 The Boswell spawn said it best...hats are for guys with no hair...
Posted by: B


i thought al bundy had some wordS about that.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:40 PM (K3ZCc)

192 is there some way we could Just go back to the old hq that was smart, vulgar, and funny, and not a supprt grp for guys with no friends?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (K3ZCc)

I'm right here, you know.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 31, 2021 09:40 PM (4I/2K)

193 that's very true.

Years ago, I had two stones in a year, so I studied everything I could to try and keep it from happening again. HFCS kept coming up in everything I looked at, so I did all I could to eradicate it from my diet - which meant saying goodbye to all the cokes and dr. peppers and other things that I used to like so much.

15 years later, I've never had another stone.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 31, 2021 09:36 PM (WmVfO)

It's just as well, soda is terrible for you.

And Dr. Pepper sucks.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:40 PM (zMjrO)

194 133 I got the stent with the string in my bladder that they had to go through the urethra to remove. It's been three years, and I still sometimes get weird twinges on that side...
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider


That's hot.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 31, 2021 09:40 PM (U2p+3)

195 So why didn't we limit the a gan army to just Afgan Christians? "Hey we just armed your worst enemy to the teeth."
Posted by: Some Rat

Someone I know that listens to Al Jezeera said that Al Jezeera was reporting that all those Blackhawks left behind got blown up, and the Taliban were pretty PO'd about it.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:41 PM (tjZg/)

196 189 The Boswell spawn said it best...hats are for guys with no hair...
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As someone who continually wears a hat or cap to prevent a sunburned skull, yes, they're for me. And I can get fun and interesting slogans for them too!

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:41 PM (W+kMI)

197 >>>The Boswell spawn said it best...hats are for guys with no hair...
Posted by: Boswell at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (5iUNf)

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Efff off!! Oh, wait. Nevermind.

Posted by: Why does my brother have hair and I don't. at August 31, 2021 09:41 PM (XVHdW)

198 Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider


That's hot.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 31, 2021 09:40 PM (U2p+3)

Lol. It's not. Nothing about having a borescope rammed up your pee hole is hot.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:41 PM (cvNl1)

199 Not only that. Like my dad, when they removed the catheter, they had a nurse-in-training there to do the procedure.
Posted by: It wasn't me at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (XVHdW)


Hell of a comment/nick combo there.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 31, 2021 09:41 PM (ghoDT)

200 all those Blackhawks left behind got blown up, and the Taliban were pretty PO'd about it.

So the video of the guy being hung from a blackhawk...are they claiming that is fake?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 09:42 PM (DpkTQ)

201 Good Evening {{{Ladyl}}}

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:42 PM (hOUT3)

202 Not only that. Like my dad, when they removed the catheter, they had a nurse-in-training there to do the procedure.
Posted by: It wasn't me

When I got the big 'V' there were also a gaggle of nursing students. One of them actually said to me - 'Gee Mr. Tonypete, this is the most people in a room where you have your pants off."

The old Dr. training them dead panned - "Don't bet on it Sister."

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:42 PM (mD/uy)

203
And thanks for that...
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider


Every time I hear the word "fedora" that cartoon pops into my mind.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2021 09:42 PM (63Dwl)

204 Someone I know that listens to Al Jezeera said that Al Jezeera was reporting that all those Blackhawks left behind got blown up, and the Taliban were pretty PO'd about it.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:41 PM (tjZg/)


1. That's clearly not true. Sumbitches were flying one yesterday with someone hanging under it.

2. Good thing we left Blackhawks because if they run now, 30 days without maintenance they won't

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:43 PM (mbFEM)

205 there are our blackhwaks and the afghan army blackhawks< they are not the same

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:43 PM (K3ZCc)

206 "Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Poor Parenting Skills.


This is why you should never let your kids mix wine with whiskey.

Posted by: Ripley at August 31, 2021 09:43 PM (PTDkx)

207 Hiden messed up so bad they've been obliged to actually report on it. Even though there has been an effort to kinda-sorta go easy on him. Mostly I think the papers are praying for the NFL season to open so that Hanoi 2021 will go away. It of course won't go away any time soon, due to a lot of angry families and Anniversary #20 of 9/11 around the corner.
Posted by: exdem13


Also, he's managed to piss off dog lovers.
And Obama is sickened by the waste of 50 dogs left behind.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 09:43 PM (+lVUW)

208 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at August 31, 2021 09:43 PM (8xaIy)

209 I've posted up before about kidney stones but I think my comment got willowed. I've passed hundreds of stones, some of them big enough that the nurses took them around to show fellow workers.
Be careful of stones that are calcium. It doesn't always mean that you have an over abundance of calcium in your diet. My doctors almost destroyed my kidneys by reducing calcium intake. The problem wasn't too much calcium it was a calcium deficiency. It took an old Chinese doctor I could barely understand to figure this out. He had my stones analyzed to see what type of calcium it was and it was from my bones. When your body has a calcium deficiency it goes to the only source of calcium, your bones. Your kidneys cannot process it. My kidneys were so calcified they were barely functioning well enough to remove toxins from my body. Through lithotripsy procedures and calcium supplementation my kidneys are functioning like they should. Watch out for this if you're prone to getting stones.

Posted by: JROD at August 31, 2021 09:43 PM (0jZnq)

210 That lake is heavily ladden with lost firearms

Posted by: a dude in MI at August 31, 2021 09:44 PM (+I6Y/)

211 145 Time for Commiefornia to ban outdoor cooking.
Just another tool to prevent fire and control the masses.
Posted by: torabora


Well, that would be a problem, what with their love for homeless junkies.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 09:44 PM (+lVUW)

212 is there some way we could Just go back to the old hq that was smart, vulgar, and funny, and not a supprt grp for guys with no friends?

Posted by: confederatefifth



Hey, we all need a little support.

Posted by: Mature boobs, any age testicles at August 31, 2021 09:44 PM (r1z5A)

213 >>>As someone who continually wears a hat or cap to prevent a sunburned skull, yes, they're for me. And I can get fun and interesting slogans for them too!
Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 09:41 PM (W+kMI)

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*fist bump*

Next worse thing is caught out in a light (really, any) rain.

Posted by: Still wasn't me at August 31, 2021 09:44 PM (XVHdW)

214 1. That's clearly not true. Sumbitches were flying one yesterday with someone hanging under it.

2. Good thing we left Blackhawks because if they run now, 30 days without maintenance they won't
Posted by: b


the blackhwaks that were in the afghan army inventory are not the same as the blackhawks we abandoned

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:44 PM (K3ZCc)

215 Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:26 PM (SDdx5

I have suffered through easily over a dozen stones over the past twenty years. Until I find a doctor who knew what he was doing. His advice: have the some analyzed and avoid what the stones are made up of.

Mine were calcium, so I cut down on my calcium intake and it has helped. They are not fine but have had less.

Bad news is you are unlikely to get away with no more stones. Once you start most likely you will have more, but if you control your diet you can hope to suffer less.

Posted by: Dandalo at August 31, 2021 09:45 PM (VMMSl)

216 Those Blackhawks are going to end up like a camero lawn ornament in a redneck's front yard.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 09:45 PM (Owx4w)

217 ol. It's not. Nothing about having a borescope rammed up your pee hole is hot.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:41 PM (cvNl1)
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i can vouch for this...

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at August 31, 2021 09:45 PM (8xaIy)

218 Watch out for this if you're prone to getting stones.
Posted by: JROD at August 31, 2021 09:43 PM (0jZnq)

This is also good to know. My regular doc took me off calcium supplements because apparently they can cause heart attacks in ladies of a certain, um, vintage. It's been about a year since that, and now this nasty stone. I have no idea if that's a cause, but now I have the question, at least.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:46 PM (SDdx5)

219 is there some way we could Just go back to the old hq that was smart, vulgar, and funny, and not a supprt grp for guys with no friends?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (K3ZCc)

You know we're here for you, man, but if you need friends you got to go out and take the chance! Seize the day! Seize it like the Taliban seizing a 12 year old!

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:46 PM (zMjrO)

220 My condolences, Pug

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 09:46 PM (DXFDM)

221

Mmmmm... Nursing students...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 09:47 PM (8/lWk)

222 The Boswell spawn said it best...hats are for guys with no hair...
Posted by: Boswell at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (5iUNf)

Damn straight!

What's your point?

Posted by: Zombie Tom Landry at August 31, 2021 09:47 PM (5nCvD)

223 I had a kidney stone a little bigger than a pea. I thought I was going to die. I was thinking is this a heart attack? I was in the emergency room waiting by myself going through waves of pain and nausea. I started jumping up and down which some how helped. At some point I had started feeling better and I was covered in cold sweat. The nurse asked for a urine sample. When she came back she announced, "congratulations it's a boy". Nurse humor. But it was just a little bigger than a pea. And the last part of its journey through banana's banana, if you will, I didn't feel that at all. It was the kidney to bladder I think that causes the pain.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 31, 2021 09:47 PM (JPH0U)

224 I mean everybody has family shit to deal with, who wants to swing by here to read about everybody else's fuckin issues.

get a friend, give him a ring

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:47 PM (K3ZCc)

225 Appreciate the vid of my President MH.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 09:48 PM (axyOa)

226 1. That's clearly not true. Sumbitches were flying one yesterday with someone hanging under it.

2. Good thing we left Blackhawks because if they run now, 30 days without maintenance they won't
Posted by: blaster

That was a snapshot and who knows where it actually came from. The Internet is full of BS.
And I was just repeating something someone heard on Al Jezeera, who is still reporting from Afghanistan, because they are on the same side as the Taliban.
I have no idea how true it was or is.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:48 PM (tjZg/)

227 get a friend, give him a ring
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:47 PM (K3ZCc)


No. I'm not getting engaged to some dude.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 31, 2021 09:48 PM (ghoDT)

228 You know we're here for you, man, but if you need friends you got to go out and take the chance! Seize the day! Seize it like the Taliban seizing a 12 year old!
Posted by: R

the hq is a funny site with smart guys saying interesting thing, not where you go to read some guys misery

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:48 PM (K3ZCc)

229 Mmmmm... Nursing students...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 09:47 PM (8/lWk)

So the last time I had surgery, I had a nursing student do one of my 'final checks.' She was Sikh, and the kindest soul. She asked me to talk about something with her so she could gauge the effect of the pre-anesthesia. I went into a lecture on autorotation.

And she was not a 1.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:49 PM (cvNl1)

230 Watch out for this if you're prone to getting stones.
Posted by: JROD at August 31, 2021 09:43 PM (0jZnq)

Great input JROD - people our age never seem to understand where their problems come from....

Posted by: Boswell at August 31, 2021 09:49 PM (5iUNf)

231 No. I'm not getting engaged to some dude.
Posted by: h


nice

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:49 PM (K3ZCc)

232 Do you guys get to keep your kidney stones in a jar to put on the mantel?

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 09:49 PM (Owx4w)

233 See, I knew the horde knew a thing or two. Thanks, folks, this gives me food for thought and research. Amazing how such a tiny little bit of nothing can cause so damned much pain and humiliation. I will be very happy to never have it happen again.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:49 PM (SDdx5)

234 Watching "Videodrome" tonight for two reasons:

1. Debbie Harry;

2. So I don't rage-stroke and get banned over Biden.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2021 09:49 PM (n8fCP)

235 I mean everybody has family shit to deal with, who wants to swing by here to read about everybody else's fuckin issues.

get a friend, give him a ring

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:47 PM (K3ZCc)


Here, let me help you out....

HotAir.com

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 09:50 PM (F0YaR)

236 Those Blackhawks are going to end up like a camero lawn ornament in a redneck's front yard.
Posted by: davidt

A lot of them are going to end up in China, being taken apart and examined.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:50 PM (tjZg/)

237 Do you guys get to keep your kidney stones in a jar to put on the mantel?
Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 09:49 PM (Owx4w)


I asked if I could keep the top part of my femur but I guess they have rules against that.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 31, 2021 09:50 PM (ghoDT)

238 186 is there some way we could Just go back to the old hq that was smart, vulgar, and funny, and not a supprt grp for guys with no friends?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:38 PM (K3ZCc)

Then what would you do, Y5?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:51 PM (z4k8L)

239 @223 banana Dream-I passed four bombers in one continuous shot. That was when the nurses took them around to show the others. They joked that I had just given birth to four children and welcomed me to the club of childbirth.

Posted by: JROD at August 31, 2021 09:51 PM (0jZnq)

240 A lot of them are going to end up in China, being taken apart and examined.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:50 PM (tjZg/)

Military heads should roll for this.

Posted by: Clutch at August 31, 2021 09:52 PM (9UmRs)

241 What is the most prominent trend in current TV commercials?


I'll give you three guesses.

Posted by: TC at August 31, 2021 09:52 PM (BR6SG)

242 Watching "Videodrome" tonight for two reasons:

1. Debbie Harry;

2. So I don't rage-stroke and get banned over Biden.

Posted by: Sharkman


Debbie Harry is weird, but not half as weird as "Videodrome". An extremely weird movie, made by David Cronenberg, a really weird guy.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:52 PM (tjZg/)

243 Well my big excitement of the day was spotting the groundhog CLIMBING over my garden fence just as spry as you please! Later I saw that he had also dug under the fence past my defenses.

I'm glad I saw him climb the fence though - because my zucchini were missing the other day and there was not digging so I wasn't sure how he got in.

So I ordered bird spikes to put on the fence and used my 12 inch garden stakes to prevent redigging....

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 09:53 PM (6lKe4)

244 They joked that I had just given birth to four children and welcomed me to the club of childbirth.

Posted by: JROD at August 31, 2021 09:51 PM (0jZnq)

Note: When I passed my 7.2mm stone, my primary nurse swung by, leaned over and whispered: "Honey, I birthed my triplets naturally and passed a stone. I'd rather birth my triplets again than ever have another stone."

WTF, lady?! Don't tell me that. In my man brain, I know that no matter how bad it is, child birth is worse. Don't tell me it isn't!!

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 09:53 PM (cvNl1)

245 225 Appreciate the vid of my President MH.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 09:48 PM (axyOa)

Glad you enjoyed, it was good seeing him again.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 09:53 PM (aA3+G)

246 Any of you guys remember Microprose? Did you know they are still around? I didn't. Just saw that they are publishing a game that looks to be a throwback to their older titles. Looks pretty fun.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1347550/
Tiny_Combat_Arena/

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 09:31 PM (DXFDM)

Thanks for posting that. Looks like it could be fun. I remember graduating to the Microprose sims after playing a lot of Dynamix games.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at August 31, 2021 09:53 PM (uhPTO)

247 241 What is the most prominent trend in current TV commercials?


I'll give you three guesses.

Posted by: TC at August 31, 2021 09:52 PM (BR6SG)

There are no white people, except that if there are, then they are married to someone who is "of color."

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:53 PM (SDdx5)

248 Do you guys get to keep your kidney stones in a jar to put on the mantel?
Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 09:49 PM (Owx4w)

Make into jewelry?

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 31, 2021 09:54 PM (4I/2K)

249 Military heads should roll for this.
Posted by: Clutch


The Chinese paid them to make this happen.

Think about it, and you know it's true.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:54 PM (tjZg/)

250 ICE-T confronts Kevin Williamson of National Review with the truth....


https://tinyurl.com/4y8autft

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 31, 2021 09:54 PM (9oke0)

251 @232 David-I filled up a few test tubes with stones. They grow mossy stuff and turn gross. Threw that shit away. They were cool to look at for a second though.

Posted by: JROD at August 31, 2021 09:54 PM (0jZnq)

252 So I ordered bird spikes to put on the fence and used my 12 inch garden stakes to prevent redigging....
Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 09:53 PM (6lKe4)

Better call Carl from Bushwood. I hear he's out of work now so he should do the job cheap.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:54 PM (SDdx5)

253 Found some guitar music for you

https://preview.tinyurl.com/5x6d9cye

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 09:54 PM (HG00O)

254 232 Do you guys get to keep your kidney stones in a jar to put on the mantel?
Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 09:49 PM (Owx4w)

I had mine in a plastic specimen jar at home somewhere.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:54 PM (z4k8L)

255 because my zucchini were missing the other day and there was not digging so I wasn't sure how he got in.

So I ordered bird spikes to put on the fence and used my 12 inch garden stakes to prevent redigging....
Posted by: Iris


Missing zucchini? Pin a medal on that rodent.

Posted by: Mature boobs, any age testicles at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (r1z5A)

256 232 Do you guys get to keep your kidney stones in a jar to put on the mantel?
Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 09:49 PM (Owx4w)

Actually I did have my second stone in a little plastic container that I never got rid of. It was my reminder of my visit from the Kidney Stone Fairy. Like the Tooth Fairy but instead of bringing money she brought pain.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (zMjrO)

257 Carl from Bushwood? I suspect I supposed to get a joke reference here?

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (6lKe4)

258 don't even own a sport jacket, let alone a suit. Not sure what I'll wear to Dad's funeral. prolly not my Bill the Cat t-shirt.

BTW, thank all of you for all the kind words last night and this morning. My mom appreciates it too, even though she thinks this site makes no sense. Like others say, there's no way to explain it.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 31, 2021 09:17 PM (4l77G)

Good to see you Pug. Take a break and go get a pork chop sandwich over at Fiddlers Green tavern.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (UVMn8)

259 "What is the most prominent trend in current TV commercials?

I'll give you three guesses.

Posted by: TC "


Gay couples

Lesbian couples

Multiracial couples

Posted by: Ripley at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (PTDkx)

260 Off sock

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (r1z5A)

261 @Iris, One word: Falconry.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (Owx4w)

262 Like the Tooth Fairy but instead of bringing money she brought pain.
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (zMjrO)

He ain't just whistling Dixie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (z4k8L)

263 What is the most prominent trend in current TV commercials?

I'll give you three guesses.

Posted by: TC

I never watch tv any more - lemme guess:

Mixed race gay 'couples'?

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (mD/uy)

264 Well my big excitement of the day was spotting the groundhog CLIMBING over my garden fence just as spry as you please! Later I saw that he had also dug under the fence past my defenses.

I'm glad I saw him climb the fence though - because my zucchini were missing the other day and there was not digging so I wasn't sure how he got in.

So I ordered bird spikes to put on the fence and used my 12 inch garden stakes to prevent redigging....
Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 09:53 PM (6lKe4)

C4.

Posted by: Carl Spackler at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (4I/2K)

265 A lot of them are going to end up in China, being taken apart and examined.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:50 PM (tjZg/)
Military heads should roll for this.
Posted by: Clutch at August 31, 2021 09:52 PM (9UmRs)


Mistakes were made, but our intensified CRT training sessions will ensure such events never occur again!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (hOUT3)

266 Then what would you do, Y5?
Posted by: A


hey, smart guy, I have always informed managment as to which nam I use and when I change so, there is nothing there, except that you think you are smart for figuring nothing out

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (K3ZCc)

267 SRV!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (VxC1e)

268 The Chinese paid them to make this happen.

Think about it, and you know it's true.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:54 PM (tjZg/)


I know it is true. We need a completesweep of Congress, bamn.

Posted by: Clutch at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (9UmRs)

269

The wise monkey seeks Horde Medical Advice™ when he's on the mend, never when symptoms are starting...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (8/lWk)

270 I will say this: kidney stone pain is the most pure form of pain I have ever experienced. No waves. No tearing or stabbing. Just pure and glacial.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (z4k8L)

271 C4.
Posted by: Carl Spackler at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (4I/2K)

I figured he'd show up sometime soon.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:57 PM (SDdx5)

272 If you're wondering how our police will act when the government orders us into camps, watch the police in Australia.

Posted by: OCBILLL at August 31, 2021 09:57 PM (SUECK)

273
Missing zucchini? Pin a medal on that rodent.
Posted by: Mature boobs, any age testicles at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (r1z5A)

People only grow that crap to give it away or have it stolen.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 09:57 PM (aA3+G)

274 Falconry - I like that!

But Mature Boobs, how pathetic am I as a gardener that I can't grow zucchini? **hangs head in shame**

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 09:57 PM (6lKe4)

275 hey, smart guy, I have always informed managment as to which nam I use and when I change so, there is nothing there, except that you think you are smart for figuring nothing out
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (K3ZCc)

Hey, a man has gotta do something when he is bored.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:57 PM (z4k8L)

276 the blackhwaks that were in the afghan army inventory are not the same as the blackhawks we abandoned

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:44 PM (K3ZCc)


You gotta list of which is which?

Should not have been many/any US Army Blackhawks in country as the force had been drawn down to

But, again, it can't be that many.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:57 PM (mbFEM)

277 The wise monkey seeks Horde Medical Advice when he's on the mend, never when symptoms are starting...
Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (8/lWk)

Sure, but now I can go for the vodka cure, so all will be well.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:58 PM (SDdx5)

278
1) Joe Biden
2) Barack Obama
3) Lyndon Johnson
4) John F. Kennedy
5) Jimmy Carter


You are nust a little more 29 years old than I am. I would still put Jimmah at #3 and drop LBJ & JFK one spot.

And I agree that your rankings are valid.

Edited due to Pixy restrictions.

Posted by: tbodie at August 31, 2021 09:58 PM (5nCvD)

279 The Chinese paid them to make this happen.

Think about it, and you know it's true.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:54 PM (tjZg/)


And one of the very few places you will see it mentioned with be here!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 09:58 PM (hOUT3)

280 There are no white people, except that if there are, then they are married to someone who is "of color."
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 31, 2021 09:53 PM (SDdx5


Close, but not quite there.


Posted by: TC at August 31, 2021 09:58 PM (BR6SG)

281 The FNM seems to have an opposition with men that claim to be straight but have sex with guys.

Odd...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 09:58 PM (DpkTQ)

282 272 If you're wondering how our police will act when the government orders us into camps, watch the police in Australia.
Posted by: OCBILLL at August 31, 2021 09:57 PM (SUECK)

I actually expect it to be worse.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:58 PM (z4k8L)

283 I think we should shut the whole idiotocracy of California down, wall it up, and nuke if from space. Just to be sure. Their stupidity is already spread to the lake cities and the east coast. It has to be being spread by air traffic. Might need to nuke Detroit, Milwaukee, Chicago, Philadelphia and New York just to have a chance of surviving terminal, life ending stupidity. Even then, the mop will have to be prosecuted with extreme prejudice and will take years of dedication to eradicate.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 31, 2021 09:59 PM (eJn7u)

284 250 ICE-T confronts Kevin Williamson of National Review with the truth....

lol

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 31, 2021 09:59 PM (QU5/8)

285 274 Falconry - I like that!

But Mature Boobs, how pathetic am I as a gardener that I can't grow zucchini? **hangs head in shame**

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 09:57 PM (6lKe4)

Ok, I am missing conversation threads here...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:59 PM (z4k8L)

286 People only grow that crap to give it away or have it stolen.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


I think it's like sunflowers for kids..."Look at the size of this flower I grew grandpa!"

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 09:59 PM (r1z5A)

287 273 People only grow that crap to give it away or have it stolen.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 09:57 PM (aA3+G)


I am tempted to start growing zucchini. I mean, I have extra shopping bags, and I love hearing people saying "thank you" in the most insincere way possible.

Posted by: Splunge at August 31, 2021 10:01 PM (S7/a+)

288
Watching "Videodrome" tonight for two reasons:
1. Debbie Harry;
2. So I don't rage-stroke and get banned over Biden.
Posted by: Sharkman


There's a lot of talk of CRT in that movie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2021 10:01 PM (63Dwl)

289 The Marines and soldiers who gave the last measure in Afghanistan--ALL of them through the last 20 years were doing what our troops have done for time immemorial.

It's beyond shameful that their efforts are squandered by craven incompetents so many times. I can only say to those who served and have served, well done, my brothers.


I honor you for eternity.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2021 10:01 PM (KATBx)

290 You gotta list of which is which?

Should not have been many/any US Army Blackhawks in country as the force had been drawn down to

But, again, it can't be that many.
Posted by: b


why is this anything? there were afghan army and security units using blackhawks when we were there. they did so as we were bugging out. they were intended to use them after we bugged out and those that are seen with the taliban are going to be those that were from the army.

and the a29s were not designed for the air force.

this is a smart military blog, right?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 10:01 PM (K3ZCc)

291 Dear {{{Hrothgar}}}

It's been a hard day and I'm out of sorts. The funeral was today for my 47 year old next door neighbor who was found dead in his house last.

The neighbors still don't know what happened. He was an engineer and a superb athlete who won the state and regionals in wrestling four years in a row in high school (Phillips Academy).

I played tennis with him several times last year, and he whipped my ass.

God I miss him.

Posted by: Ladyl at August 31, 2021 10:01 PM (TdMsT)

292 And I was just repeating something someone heard on Al Jezeera, who is still reporting from Afghanistan, because they are on the same side as the Taliban.
I have no idea how true it was or is.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night at August 31, 2021 09:48 PM (tjZg/)


Not aimed at you. Just saying that the news is often, well, fake. Even Al Jazeera

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 10:01 PM (mbFEM)

293 281 The FNM seems to have an opposition with men that claim to be straight but have sex with guys.

Odd...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 09:58 PM (DpkTQ)

I thought that was 'On the down low'? I saw an article in the newspaper about the phenomenon about 10 years ago and decided to finally give up on newspapers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:01 PM (z4k8L)

294 286 People only grow that crap to give it away or have it stolen.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


I think it's like sunflowers for kids..."Look at the size of this flower I grew grandpa!"
Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 09:59 PM (r1z5A)

My Mother, God rest her soul, grew that stuff even after the days of her big gardens were done. Stop by and visit and she would give me paper grocery bags of the stuff. You can only eat so much zucchini bread.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 10:02 PM (aA3+G)

295 270 I will say this: kidney stone pain is the most pure form of pain I have ever experienced. No waves. No tearing or stabbing. Just pure and glacial.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (z4k8L)


(drinks a gallon of water)

Posted by: Splunge at August 31, 2021 10:02 PM (S7/a+)

296 I will counter your zucchini hate with my spiralizer and multiple versions of zucchini bread!

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 10:02 PM (6lKe4)

297 Good to see you Pug. Take a break and go get a pork chop sandwich over at Fiddlers Green tavern.
Posted by: Beartooth at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (UVMn

I did that a few months ago. Really excellent. I actually thought about that earlier today.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 31, 2021 10:02 PM (4l77G)

298 Zucchini vs groundhog?

I'm rooting for the fucking groundhog.

I'd shoot the zucchini first.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 10:02 PM (F0YaR)

299 Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2021 10:01 PM (KATBx)

Spot on, irongrampa!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 10:03 PM (hOUT3)

300 C5!

Can I give you a hug?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 31, 2021 10:03 PM (/UQ/R)

301 My first kidney stone woke me when I was asleep. Wasn't sure what the problem was except it was getting increasingly worse. I thought I had the shits at first but I went to the can and nothing. It was confusing and frightening as hell.

At some point I got hit with this massive wave of pain that I just started screaming. My cat was so freaked out by the episode she just started biting me.

Second stone I was wide awake for but, and I still find this odd, it started with my balls becoming suddenly very sore.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:03 PM (zMjrO)

302 how pathetic am I as a gardener that I can't grow zucchini? **hangs head in shame**

Posted by: Iris


yeah, that's a tough one. {{{Iris}}}

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 10:03 PM (r1z5A)

303 How are you fine folks tonight? Whatzzup?
We got some rain here in N IL, that is welcome.

Posted by: Farmer at August 31, 2021 10:03 PM (55Qr6)

304 My Mother, God rest her soul, grew that stuff even after the days of her big gardens were done. Stop by and visit and she would give me paper grocery bags of the stuff. You can only eat so much zucchini bread.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 10:02 PM (aA3+G)

Mammaw would make zucchini bread. Delicious.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:04 PM (z4k8L)

305 I bought a spiralizer three years ago. It's still in its box. Turns out there is nothing I want to spiralize.

Posted by: Splunge at August 31, 2021 10:04 PM (S7/a+)

306 Aetius: you missed my nemesis the groundhog.

Spiralized zucchini noodles are good as pasta substitutes. And for Kung Pao Chicken.

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 10:04 PM (6lKe4)

307 Second stone I was wide awake for but, and I still find this odd, it started with my balls becoming suddenly very sore.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:03 PM (zMjrO)

I get about five heartbeats to recognize what's happening, then I tend to black out from the pain.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 10:05 PM (cvNl1)

308 @244 Dr. Washinton Nearsider-The last big stone I passed was the night before I was scheduled to go in that morning to go up and pull it out. I woke up in pain at about 2am, took another morphine. The morphine would just take the edge off. In desperation I grabbed a body massager and tried rubbing it around my abdomen. Moving it around I ended up resting it on my hip bone and immediatelyI could feel the stone move. Man I could tell when it hit my bladder because it was instant relief and the morphine did its thing. Ran to the crapper and out it came. Nothing like pissing out a jagged rock and being able to see meat hanging off the edges. I'll never forget that.

Posted by: JROD at August 31, 2021 10:05 PM (0jZnq)

309 I find, when I get most depressed, it's due to isolation. I try and get out where I can be around people for awhile. I would just like to see some progress, somewhere, for a change.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 31, 2021 10:05 PM (YynYJ)

310 I played the hell out of F-19 Stealth Fighter. Flying missions out of Incirlik to the Middle East or from Sigonella to strike Libya.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 10:05 PM (DXFDM)

311 I thought that was 'On the down low'? I saw an article in the newspaper about the phenomenon about 10 years ago and decided to finally give up on newspapers.

At least within my circle of people that doesn't seem to cover anyone and yes there are gay men, a couple of trannies* (thanks work!), some lesbians, some former lesbians-in-college, and a couple of 100% straight until I have some wine women.

*One of them is a balding 50ish guy who wears his remaining hair in pigtails and wears dresses that I normally see on tweens.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 10:06 PM (DpkTQ)

312 Posted by: Ladyl at August 31, 2021 10:01 PM (TdMsT)

What an awful day for you.
You have my sympathy for the loss of your friend as does his family, that is way too young!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 10:06 PM (hOUT3)

313 Lauren Boebert tweeted:

Biden was over an hour late to his speech about Afghanistan.

Perhaps he should have checked his watch...

Very nice, very nice. Question 1: Can we clone her? Question 2: Can I have a copy?

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 10:06 PM (mbFEM)

314 At some point I got hit with this massive wave of pain that I just started screaming. My cat was so freaked out by the episode she just started biting me.

Second stone I was wide awake for but, and I still find this odd, it started with my balls becoming suddenly very sore.
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:03 PM (zMjrO)

Back, flank and groin.

In the back? Excruciating agony.

Flank. Like an irritating restless hard to quantify feeling.

Groin. Ache in the balls. Like you have managed to somehow torque one of the boys.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:06 PM (z4k8L)

315 310 I played the hell out of F-19 Stealth Fighter. Flying missions out of Incirlik to the Middle East or from Sigonella to strike Libya.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 10:05 PM (DXFDM)

Haha..yes! I had that one too

Posted by: a dude in MI at August 31, 2021 10:06 PM (+I6Y/)

316 My little brother's favorite war story was when he pissed kidney stones on the wall of one of Saddam's palaces after drinking too many Dr. Peppers (a la Forrest Gump) a few days before. He didn't talk about the other things. Of course his paratrooper buddies took plenty of pics.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 31, 2021 10:06 PM (4l77G)

317 I had a groundhog problem. Until something happened to him. He just up and disappeared one day. I suspect foul play...

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 31, 2021 10:06 PM (eJn7u)

318

I should rather eat zucchini than okra...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:07 PM (8/lWk)

319 Thank God for President Trump.

He scares them because they've never seen a natural American male in DC.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2021 10:07 PM (oGc0G)

320 Nothing like pissing out a jagged rock and being able to see meat hanging off the edges. I'll never forget that.

Posted by: JROD at August 31, 2021 10:05 PM (0jZnq)

Can. Confirm.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 10:08 PM (cvNl1)

321 ((((Ladyl)))) Big hug. That's so sad about your neighbor.

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 10:08 PM (6lKe4)

322 320 Nothing like pissing out a jagged rock and being able to see meat hanging off the edges. I'll never forget that.

Posted by: JROD at August 31, 2021 10:05 PM (0jZnq)

Can. Confirm.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 10:08 PM (cvNl1)


ow ow ow ow ow

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 10:08 PM (mbFEM)

323 318

I should rather eat zucchini than okra...
Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:07 PM (8/lWk)


Oh great a new war...............

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 10:08 PM (aA3+G)

324 Oh great a new war...............
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 10:08 PM (aA3+G)

Don't mention the war.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:09 PM (z4k8L)

325 Oh great a new war...............
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


Heh! It has been a rather sporty comments section so far!

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 10:10 PM (r1z5A)

326 Fun things a Horde member with a ghillie suit can do in a Japanese park.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m31Lr4YTHS0

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 10:10 PM (W+kMI)

327 Don't mention the war.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:09 PM (z4k8L)

You mean the War of Northern Aggression?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 31, 2021 10:10 PM (eJn7u)

328 Also. Dear Papa John's: Not your best effort.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 10:10 PM (cvNl1)

329 Good to see you Pug. Take a break and go get a pork chop sandwich over at Fiddlers Green tavern.
Posted by: Beartooth at August 31, 2021 09:55 PM (UVMn

I did that a few months ago. Really excellent. I actually thought about that earlier today.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 31, 2021

Glad to hear that. Now take a couple of hours and drive up to the overlook on the Beartooth highway. It's only a few miles and 40 switchbacks from Red Lodge.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 31, 2021 10:10 PM (UVMn8)

330

One of my local Japanese hibachi joints puts zucchini in everything -- and it's not bad!

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:11 PM (8/lWk)

331 325 Oh great a new war...............
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


Heh! It has been a rather sporty comments section so far!
Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 10:10 PM (r1z5A)


I know there are several okra lovers here at the ONT.

Zucchini vs. Okra.

I'll take cabbage.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 10:12 PM (aA3+G)

332 I find, when I get most depressed, it's due to isolation. I try and get out where I can be around people for awhile. I would just like to see some progress, somewhere, for a change.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 31, 2021 10:05 PM (YynYJ)


Keep an eye on sleep, especially if you wake up earlier and earlier without a reason. that is an early indicator.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 10:12 PM (HG00O)

333 Don't mention the war.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop


There was no war because our feckless congress never declared one.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 10:12 PM (r1z5A)

334 Oh question for the horde - how did you pick your financial planner, and what do you look for out of a fin planner?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 10:12 PM (DpkTQ)

335 Kidney stones are also one of the ways a lot of people choose to try to score drugs. (No real obvious symptoms besides pain.) The ER nurses ask you to describe it. This is from memory:

'It is not tearing or cutting. No pulses. Not changing with my heartbeat. Pressure is probably the closest? Imagine someone took a broom handle- the round end- and gently placed it on your back over your kidney. Then they started pushing. And pushing. But you cannot get away. The moment before your skin would break is what it feels like. All the time.'

I got kudos from the ER doc on that night for the description.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:12 PM (z4k8L)

336 Keep an eye on sleep, especially if you wake up earlier and earlier without a reason. that is an early indicator.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 10:12 PM (HG00O)

This is my big marker, too. I've been getting up around 0200 or 0300 every day. No matter what, no matter how late I go to bed, how far I ran that day, or how much I drank the night before.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (cvNl1)

337 Actually here's a question for the Horde:

Sauerkraut.

What's your take?

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (zMjrO)

338 MisHum, I have a beautiful pic to send but can't find email

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (Kx3kq)

339
Don't mention the war.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:09 PM (z4k8L)


Lol.

Posted by: Ladyl at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (TdMsT)

340 Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu

Iron Maiden's first six albums may be the most solid run in rock history. Definitely in metal in particular. It's hard to think of anything comparable. Maybe Ozzy's solo career.

Is Dickinson singing on the new one?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (QU5/8)

341 So this is the old fart aches and pains bitching section? Yeah, I've had a kidney stone once and it was easily the most painful thing I've experienced. Traded notes with a lady nurse who said she had kids the natural way and that a kidney stone was far worse than squeezing a baby out. Therefore, I have bragging rights against my wife, right? Isn't that how this works?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (DXFDM)

342 Oh question for the horde - how did you pick your financial planner, and what do you look for out of a fin planner?

Sounds like something a lottery winner might ask.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 31, 2021 10:14 PM (SchxB)

343 Is Dickinson singing on the new one?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (QU5/

Hell yes!

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:14 PM (zMjrO)

344 I know there are several okra lovers here at the ONT.

Zucchini vs. Okra.

I'll take cabbage.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


I will not be a combatant in the Great ONT Vegetable War. Religious exemption.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 10:15 PM (r1z5A)

345 151 This is what winning looks like.
Posted by: Biden at August 31, 2021 09:33 PM (vbIkY)
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So, you're the one that taught the kid to stick her head into the toilet.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2021 10:15 PM (oGc0G)

346 338 MisHum, I have a beautiful pic to send but can't find email
Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (Kx3kq)

petmorons at the gmail thingy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 10:15 PM (aA3+G)

347 I dry zucchini for winter soups. I thought I had some this year but what came up were volunteers that were a combination of pumpkin and crookneck squash.

My goodness there are a lot of them, unfortunately I don't think they are edible.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 10:15 PM (HG00O)

348 Sauerkraut.

What's your take?
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (zMjrO)

I am not usually food shy. Unless it is something like insects or balut or testicles. I have never had good sauerkraut that I could find redeeming qualities in.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:15 PM (z4k8L)

349 Sauerkraut good.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 10:15 PM (Owx4w)

350
341 So this is the old fart aches and pains bitching section? Yeah, I've had a kidney stone once and it was easily the most painful thing I've experienced. Traded notes with a lady nurse who said she had kids the natural way and that a kidney stone was far worse than squeezing a baby out. Therefore, I have bragging rights against my wife, right? Isn't that how this works?
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (DXFDM)


I've had ischemic colitis twice and natural childbirth twice. I'd choose natural childbirth any day of the week over IC.

Posted by: Ladyl at August 31, 2021 10:16 PM (TdMsT)

351 we taught the kids puking in any toilet is gross

better do it in the kitchen sink, preferably the one with the garbarge disposal

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:16 PM (bTQ72)

352 Beautiful photo on the bing homepage. Bridge in Montenegro.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:16 PM (z4k8L)

353 That's right - this lottery ticket here said I won the jackpot.

$7 in cold hard cash!

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 10:17 PM (DpkTQ)

354 There was no war because our feckless congress never declared one.
Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 10:12 PM (r1z5A)


It was telling that changed the title from the Department of War to the Department of Defense! Wars are won or lost, Defense is much more abstract and this more capable of being misused.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 10:17 PM (hOUT3)

355 Sauerkraut.

What's your take?
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album


I am ethnically required to like.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 10:17 PM (r1z5A)

356 **Sauerkraut.

What's your take?

wonderfull, great reason to drink the beer
keeps the weiner good

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:17 PM (bTQ72)

357 That's right - this lottery ticket here said I won the jackpot.

$7 in cold hard cash!


That's a better return on investment than most people get.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 31, 2021 10:17 PM (SchxB)

358 353 That's right - this lottery ticket here said I won the jackpot.

$7 in cold hard cash!
Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 10:17 PM (DpkTQ)

A whole gallon of gas!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:17 PM (z4k8L)

359 I am not usually food shy. Unless it is something like insects or balut or testicles. I have never had good sauerkraut that I could find redeeming qualities in.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:15 PM (z4k8L)

Sauerkraut good.
Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 10:15 PM (Owx4w)

It's 1-1 so far.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:17 PM (zMjrO)

360 >> Oh question for the horde - how did you pick your financial planner, and what do you look for out of a fin planner?

Sounds like something a lottery winner might ask.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 31, 2021 10:14 PM (SchxB)


Yeah, and is trying to hide that info from us, so as to not be pestered with requests for directions to their new island.

The new version of 'get off my lawn'.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 10:18 PM (F0YaR)

361 It's 1-1 so far.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:17 PM (zMjrO)

I'm a hard no on sauerkraut.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 10:18 PM (cvNl1)

362 Hello everybody!
Why is the time Central Standard? It used to be Eastern.

Posted by: Sister, aka ALH at August 31, 2021 10:18 PM (/g7XU)

363 Good night all! Off to be a responsible, well-rested adult. (laughs to self)

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2021 10:18 PM (6lKe4)

364 Watching Gutfeld tonight.....God what a f*ing disaster. But kat timpf looks hot with the rockin red lipstick

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 31, 2021 10:18 PM (/UQ/R)

365 Sauerkraut

Love it. Store-bought, home-made, it’s all good. I’ll snack on it out of the fridge, cook it with meat, eat it as a side dish.

Got a great seventies cookbook several months ago for using sauerkraut in other recipes. Get great sauerkraut yeast bread in the bread machine now. Also, sauerkraut-lemon ice cream. Goes great with sauerkraut chocolate cake.

Search on “Put Some Kraut in Your Life” to see the wonderful sixties/seventies design style.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (CX3cf)

366 Sauerkraut.

What's your take?
Posted by: Robert

I'm half Pennsylvania German.

It is written that kraut and scrapple are two of the major food groups.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (mD/uy)

367 Night Iris.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (z4k8L)

368 Zucchini vs. Okra.

I'll take cabbage.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 10:12 PM (aA3+G)


Same. Tiny, bite-sized cabbages.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (ghoDT)

369 2-2 on sauerkraut!

Things seem pretty evenly divided.

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (zMjrO)

370 Corned beef briquet simmered with Sauerkraut, leftovers for Reubens.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (Owx4w)

371
Don Kaydeck?

Don Kaddek

Don Cedek?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (bTQ72)

372

Kimchee > sauerkraut...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (8/lWk)

373 +1 for sauerkraut

Posted by: Rusty at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (2w0s8)

374 This is my big marker, too. I've been getting up around 0200 or 0300 every day. No matter what, no matter how late I go to bed, how far I ran that day, or how much I drank the night before.
Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (cvNl1)


there is a podcast called Huberman Lab which is by Andrew Huberman, who is something of an expert on neurochemistry.
Eps 2-3 are about the neurochemistry and architecture of sleep, and this recent month (he is in the 30's now) he discusses depression with neuroscientists.

He sounds like a bro, but he actually does have that PhD and can lecture very well.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 10:20 PM (HG00O)

375 Sauerkraut is pickle, and pickle is good. That's all there is to it.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 31, 2021 10:20 PM (ghoDT)

376 Glad to hear that. Now take a couple of hours and drive up to the overlook on the Beartooth highway. It's only a few miles and 40 switchbacks from Red Lodge.
Posted by: Beartooth at August 31, 2021 10:10 PM (UVMn

Wanna do that, with wife and sons, but it is so friggin' smoky here right now.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 31, 2021 10:20 PM (4l77G)

377
anyone can drink pickle juice

real pros drink sauerkraut juice

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:20 PM (bTQ72)

378 America has had three wars that have renowned to the glory of an Empire among the greatest in history.


Name them.

Posted by: TC at August 31, 2021 10:20 PM (BR6SG)

379 Sauerkraut prevents kidney stones.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (Owx4w)

380 I've been to the sauerkraut festival in Wilmington, Ohio, the antiques capitol of the Buckeye State.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (W+kMI)

381
Korean sauerkraut is called Kimchi

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (bTQ72)

382 real pros drink sauerkraut juice

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:20 PM



Champions drink kimchee juice!

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (8/lWk)

383 >>> I got kudos from the ER doc on that night for the description.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:12 PM (z4k8L)


It felt like being punched in the kidneys which I've had sharp jabs to the side like that and thats what it felt like but taking multiple hits. Then there's a different pain a little like getting stabbed in the guts which I never had but thats what my mind comes up with to explain. And then the nausea. But after it was over I wad perfectly fine.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (JPH0U)

384 real pros drink sauerkraut juice

And what about those that chug nut milk?

Posted by: Kamala Harris at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (DpkTQ)

385 Enjoyed Trump's speech, thank you for including it tonight. I wish he was still in the oval office.

Posted by: Sister, aka ALH at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (/g7XU)

386 real pros drink sauerkraut juice
Posted by: will choose a nic later

In my house growing up we took the heel of Italian bread and soaked up the sauerkraut juice with it.

Do you see why I am like I am!?

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (mD/uy)

387 205 there are our blackhwaks and the afghan army blackhawks

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 31, 2021 09:43 PM (K3ZCc)
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Chy-nee come fix um just the same

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2021 10:22 PM (oGc0G)

388 Search on "Put Some Kraut in Your Life" to see the wonderful sixties/seventies design style.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (CX3cf)

You a fan of Lilek's Gallery of Regrettable Food? That and the notes on the Groovy Gobbler are worth a click on his site. Seems to share your 'taste'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:22 PM (z4k8L)

389 I thought pickles were cucumbers in brine.

Posted by: Sister, aka ALH at August 31, 2021 10:22 PM (/g7XU)

390 I will say this: kidney stone pain is the most pure form of pain I have ever experienced. No waves. No tearing or stabbing. Just pure and glacial.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 09:56 PM (z4k8L)

(drinks a gallon of water)
Posted by: Splunge
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I can attest to this. Just constant, unrelenting pain with no breaks. It's either there or not. You keep waiting for a break or easing up but nope...just unrelenting. At least labor was in waves...

Posted by: lin-duh at August 31, 2021 10:22 PM (UUBmN)

391 I found out recently that in India they picked pretty much everything.

One day I'll have to try pickled mango...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 10:23 PM (DpkTQ)

392 I've been to the sauerkraut festival in Wilmington, Ohio, the antiques capitol of the Buckeye State.
Posted by: exdem13

Did you happen to catch the Bratwurst Festival in Bucyrus?

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 10:23 PM (mD/uy)

393 Ethnically Polish. All things cabbage are good. Yes to sauerkraut.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 31, 2021 10:23 PM (2NHgQ)

394 Sauerkraut.

What's your take?
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album


Can't name the wars, but the police actions:
Korea
Vietnam
Ahfuckitstan

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 10:23 PM (r1z5A)

395
I have had cooked sauerkraut oh bratwurst which is good also

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:23 PM (bTQ72)

396 Red lipstick is the worst, especially for blondes.

Posted by: TC at August 31, 2021 10:23 PM (BR6SG)

397 Used to live near a great little German restaurant, that made their own red cabbage sauerkraut, which I always ordered. Yum. I've tried a couple of times to duplicate it, to no avail.

*Sadz*

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 10:24 PM (F0YaR)

398 Pickled mango is good.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 10:24 PM (Owx4w)

399 Fermented and pickled foods are best foods.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 10:24 PM (DXFDM)

400 I know some people like Polish sausage, and some people like Portuguese.

I used to really like African, but I've really been into Kosher ones lately.

Posted by: Kamala Harris at August 31, 2021 10:24 PM (DpkTQ)

401 378 America has had three wars that have renowned to the glory of an Empire among the greatest in history.

Name them.
Posted by: TC at August 31, 2021 10:20 PM (BR6SG)

Civil War (reasons: new type of warfare, new weapons, new tactics.)

Revolutionary War: amazing that we pulled that one off. The French were a big help or at least the threat of them.

WWII: the heavy lifting. Arsenal of Democracy (and doesn't that bring a bitter taste?) Two fronts. Changed the face of warfare and politics forever with the atom bomb.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:25 PM (z4k8L)

402 380 I've been to the sauerkraut festival in Wilmington, Ohio, the antiques capitol of the Buckeye State.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (W+kMI)


Isn't the sauerkraut festival in Waynesville?

Posted by: Ladyl at August 31, 2021 10:25 PM (TdMsT)

403 Better Kraut is not pasteurized.

Kraut on hot dog good
Kraut with mustard, tomato, and smoked ham, good.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2021 10:25 PM (oGc0G)

404 337 Actually here's a question for the Horde:

Sauerkraut.
What's your take?
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (zMjrO)


Sauerkraut and sausage is yummy, especially if you do it in a slow cooker and add apples. I also like sauerkraut as a condiment on hot dogs or brats.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 10:25 PM (+lVUW)

405 Fermented and pickled foods are best foods.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen

Dietrich's Meats in Lenhartsville PA will sell you pickled pig snouts in a jar.

I shit you not.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 10:25 PM (mD/uy)

406 exdem13. Thoughts the sauerkraut festival was Waynesville OH? Are there two such festivals so close together?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 31, 2021 10:25 PM (2NHgQ)

407 You a fan of Lilek's Gallery of Regrettable Food?

Yes, I have the book in my living room. I’ve probably made some of it. Had some really nice cucumber mold salad last week. I made it on a lark, and it turned out to be very good. I would never have thought to combine crushed pineapple and lemon juice with chopped cucumber, especially in gelatin.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2021 10:26 PM (CX3cf)

408 Old fashioned boiled dinner with sauerkraut.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 10:26 PM (Owx4w)

409 I've been to the sauerkraut festival in Wilmington, Ohio, the antiques capitol of the Buckeye State.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (W+kMI)

Wilmington was in our league in HS. Been there many times, but never made it to the kraut festival.

*disclaimer: I've never had kidney stones.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at August 31, 2021 10:27 PM (uhPTO)

410 Name them.
Posted by: TC


Holy crap, did I misunderstand the question. Apologies.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 10:27 PM (r1z5A)

411 So I think it safe to say the Horde is pretty firmly planted in the "Prosauerkraut" camp.

Just for that, everyone gets a German beer maid!

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:27 PM (zMjrO)

412 I will say this: kidney stone pain is the most pure form of pain I have ever experienced. No waves. No tearing or stabbing. Just pure and glacial.

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Hmm. Glad I showed up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 10:27 PM (VxC1e)

413

Doesn't every grocery store in Pennsyltucky offer pickled pig snouts?

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:27 PM (8/lWk)

414 Yes, I have the book in my living room. I've probably made some of it. Had some really nice cucumber mold salad last week. I made it on a lark, and it turned out to be very good. I would never have thought to combine crushed pineapple and lemon juice with chopped cucumber, especially in gelatin.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2021 10:26 PM (CX3cf)

*music stops*

I think we have a Lutheran amongst us!

*body snatcher's screaming and pointing*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:28 PM (z4k8L)

415 "Dietrich's Meats in Lenhartsville PA will sell you pickled pig snouts in a jar."


Why did I just think of Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 10:28 PM (Owx4w)

416
sauerkraut is just European style pickled cabbage

Kimchi is Korean style pickled cabbage

potatos and cabbage can be as simple as sauerkraut juice and vodka.

no hangovers there

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:28 PM (bTQ72)

417 Just for that, everyone gets a German beer maid!
Posted by: Robert

Prost!!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 10:28 PM (mD/uy)

418 Dietrich's Meats in Lenhartsville PA will sell you pickled pig snouts in a jar.

I shit you not.
Posted by: Tonypete


Does not surprise me...that thing is all muscle.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 31, 2021 10:28 PM (r1z5A)

419 Zucchini:

There's an old joke that once, someone at the market left a bag full of their bumper crop of zucchini in their car, in full view of the window.

When the shopper came back, they found the car window broken. Turns out the culprit didn't steal anything; they left *another* bag of zucchini to add to theirs!

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 10:28 PM (L2ZTs)

420 Is the Wilmington, Ohio sauerkraut festival also known as the Ohio Sauerkraut festival, and in Waynesville?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2021 10:29 PM (CX3cf)

421 Better Kraut is not pasteurized.

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Da, comrade. We tried to steer them toward the marshes.

Posted by: The Red Army at August 31, 2021 10:29 PM (VxC1e)

422 Doesn't every grocery store in Pennsyltucky offer pickled pig snouts?
Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:27 PM (8/lWk)

Feet maybe, never seen snouts that I can recall. Hell, I am not sure I have seen feet in 10-15 years.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:29 PM (z4k8L)

423 Seen pickled pigs feet but never snouts.
Next it will be pickled pigs ... whuff

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2021 10:29 PM (oGc0G)

424 Debbie Harry is weird, but not half as weird as "Videodrome". An extremely weird movie, made by David Cronenberg, a really weird guy.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....nic at night


It's such a comically over the top movie that I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2021 10:30 PM (n8fCP)

425 I tried Mis Hum. Not very phone savvy.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2021 10:30 PM (Kx3kq)

426 423 Seen pickled pigs feet but never snouts.
Next it will be pickled pigs ... whuff
Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2021 10:29 PM (oGc0G)

Pickle dog! With slices off the cheap, generic block of cheddar.

Mmmm. The flavors of my childhood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:31 PM (z4k8L)

427 PA is the oddest state.

Filthedelphia is one of the worst Big Blue Shit Holes in the country. Last I checked they weren't tops in shootings, but were leading in stabbings and STDs.

And then the rest of the state is beautiful. And...quirky. But in a good way.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2021 10:31 PM (DpkTQ)

428 America has had 3 wars that are renowned in history, the Revolutionary War, WW1 and WW2.

We've never had an Empire.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2021 10:31 PM (KATBx)

429 Sharkman, do you have the Criterion edition of Videodrome?

I never saw it but still remember the clip of the TV set, er, "pulsating." (Bad early 80s special effects.)

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 10:31 PM (L2ZTs)

430 425 I tried Mis Hum. Not very phone savvy.
Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2021 10:30 PM (Kx3kq)

Will check

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 31, 2021 10:32 PM (aA3+G)

431
when your girl says you can stick it wherever you want, in her sister is apparently not a very good choice

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:32 PM (bTQ72)

432 'Pickle dog' is pickled bologna for the uninitiated. Usually was ekrich iirc.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:32 PM (z4k8L)

433 409 I've been to the sauerkraut festival in Wilmington, Ohio, the antiques capitol of the Buckeye State.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (W+kMI)

Both are Waynesville, not Wilmington.

Posted by: Ladyl at August 31, 2021 10:32 PM (TdMsT)

434 >Dietrich's Meats in Lenhartsville PA will sell you pickled pig snouts in a jar.

I shit you not.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 10:25 PM (mD/uy)

I live on the left coast, and as a kid I often traveled with my dad to a lot of places out in BFE that might have had a town with one small grocery/deli. I remember more than few having pickled pigs feet, along with pickled sausages and pickled eggs. Never did try the pigs feet, but I wouldn't have eaten them even if they weren't pickled. I think maybe the were aimed at the Mexican laborers. Them pickled eggs should probably be classified as a biological weapon, btw...

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 10:33 PM (DXFDM)

435 428 America has had 3 wars that are renowned in history, the Revolutionary War, WW1 and WW2.

We've never had an Empire.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2021 10:31 PM (KATBx)

Not arguing on the empire bit, IGP, but I would on the WWI bit. We came in at the end when things were starting to get more mobile. It's a good thing too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:33 PM (z4k8L)

436 when your girl says you can stick it wherever you want, in her sister is apparently not a very good choice
Posted by: will choose a nic later

The way I heard that was as a response to:

Do whatever you want, just don't wake me. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 10:33 PM (mD/uy)

437 Okay, I'm up stupidly late.

Gotta get up early so I can sit and wait.

Night!

Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:33 PM (zMjrO)

438 Both are Waynesville, not Wilmington.
Posted by: Ladyl at August 31, 2021 10:32 PM (TdMsT)

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Wow. People around here really know Ohio.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 10:33 PM (VxC1e)

439 Night Robert.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:34 PM (z4k8L)

440 428 America has had 3 wars that are renowned in history, the Revolutionary War, WW1 and WW2.

We've never had an Empire.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2021 10:31 PM (KATBx)
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We conquered Mexico and gave it back to them.
Had to wait three days for them to form a new government.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2021 10:34 PM (oGc0G)

441

I can actually see Pennsyltucky from the palatial Zettaibunker... I should like to visit some day...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:34 PM (8/lWk)

442 428 America has had 3 wars that are renowned in history, the Revolutionary War, WW1 and WW2.

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We say Remember the Maine, but nobody ever really does.

Posted by: The Spanish-American War at August 31, 2021 10:35 PM (VxC1e)

443 When I was a kid, my dad would get big jars of pickled turkey gizzards from this bar he favored. They were really, really good. If you're into weird pickled meats.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 31, 2021 10:35 PM (QU5/8)

444 Can you pickle your kidney stones?

Posted by: JuJuBee at August 31, 2021 10:35 PM (mNhhD)

445 444 Can you pickle your kidney stones?
Posted by: JuJuBee at August 31, 2021 10:35 PM (mNhhD)

I dunno. The acid might dissolve them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 31, 2021 10:36 PM (z4k8L)

446 Yes, we liberated the Philippines from the Spanish. A Filipina nurse thanked me for that.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2021 10:37 PM (oGc0G)

447 Cicero. Lived within spitting distance of Waynesville. Attended Church there for a time. The Church's biggest money maker was selling cabbage rolls at the festival. Usually $30,000.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 31, 2021 10:37 PM (2NHgQ)

448 Pickle dog! With slices off the cheap, generic block of cheddar.

Mmmm. The flavors of my childhood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop


Mmmm. I can almost taste it.

Posted by: Obama at August 31, 2021 10:38 PM (+lVUW)

449

One of the deck guns from The Maine sits in a park in Portland, ME...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:38 PM (8/lWk)

450 Cicero - passing on a question from Westminster Dog Show, who posed it this afternoon - well not to you, but I thought you might have some answer if anyone here does -

She wanted to know of any attorneys specializing in employment issues in southern LA area. Could well be you have no more idea than anyone else here. Just thought I'd mention it.

I did reco she ask the question of you on the ONT. Seems I beat her to it - unless I didn't, in which case, cue up the "DISREGARD LAST" part of the coded message.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 31, 2021 10:38 PM (OTzUX)

451 Sauerkraut is good simmered a long time in apple cider with apple slices and sausage.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 31, 2021 10:39 PM (JPH0U)

452 The Accordion's favorite vegetable is zucchini. Unless it is a fruit.

Posted by: klaftern at August 31, 2021 10:40 PM (r4sI4)

453 Hi. I'm here.

I make great pickled jalapenos.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 31, 2021 10:40 PM (Y+l9t)

454 Ha, at least wo other Morons have been to the festival in Waynesville, Ohio! Never type stuff while simultaneously playing gacha games, bad for concentration. and maybe that story about Mountain dew and memory loss/confusion is real.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2021 10:40 PM (W+kMI)

455 So here I was enjoying the comments and then someone just had to bring up the devil's veggie...okra.
Vile.
Nasty
Evil

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 10:41 PM (axyOa)

456 Yes, we liberated the Philippines from the Spanish. A Filipina nurse thanked me for that.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2021 10:37 PM



ISTR that we'd liberated the Philippines from the Nips as well...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:41 PM (8/lWk)

457 At least our land-line telephone bills got rid of the federal excise tax technically directed to paying off the debt from the Spanish-American War - in the 1990s? Something incredible like that.

Of course how much better would it have been if the line item on phone bills had said, all those years - "Spanish-American War Debt Service". To 1) edumucate dumbass Amurika about its own recent history and 2) illustrate the problem with allowing taxes to become embedded.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 31, 2021 10:41 PM (OTzUX)

458 Men used to wear them all the time and there weren't mountains of dead littering the streets.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2021 09:04 PM (/U27+)

I think I own a tie. Haven't checked lately.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2021 10:41 PM (1nY0b)

459 She wanted to know of any attorneys specializing in employment issues in southern LA area. Could well be you have no more idea than anyone else here. Just thought I'd mention it.

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I've handled employment litigation for 30 years, but all on the employer side. In fact, I finished a disability discrimination trial just two weeks ago.

I know lots of plaintiff employment lawyers but I'm hard pressed to think of one that I really think is worth a damn.

Now what was the question again?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 10:43 PM (VxC1e)

460 Big news will try to profit from your loss.

Of course he might have a lawyer issue a notice because of this, but the lawyer will just get him to settle for a small sum. He shouldn't though. He should take them to the wall in a full jury trial.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2021 10:43 PM (1t5dY)

461 455 So here I was enjoying the comments and then someone just had to bring up the devil's veggie...okra.
Vile.
Nasty
Evil
Posted by: Diogenes


You left off "slimy".

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 10:44 PM (+lVUW)

462 After the last 2 weeks it's nice to talk about something different even if it's kidney stones, neckties and sauerkraut.
Although Biden is still an asshole!

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 31, 2021 10:44 PM (2NHgQ)

463 Sharon: kewl!
How do you pickle jalapenos? White vinegar I assume? And for how long?

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 10:45 PM (L2ZTs)

464 Well, since he's near death's door after weeks on a vent, his chances are pretty poor -- and ivermectin works best if administered early on (from what I've read), but I hope it helps somehow.

Publius has been making good points all day about WHY hospitals are refusing 'unauthorized' treatment options... in a word, "liability". Fucking ambulance chasers. *yes, I know there some good lawyers*
Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 09:12 PM (F0YaR)

Poor guy's wife and doctor had better make sure that the Ivermectin is administered by an independent physician. It'd be all too easy for the hospital to adulterate it, or screw up the dosage.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2021 10:46 PM (1nY0b)

465 Cicero, employment litigation?
Have you dealt with a lot of sexual harassment cases?

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 10:46 PM (L2ZTs)

466 Back before he lost his way, PJ O'Rourke had (of course) a great chapter title in whatever he wrote about the Philippines. From memory: "Two Hundred Years in the Convent, One Hundred Years in the Whore-House".

I believe our own Mike Hammer knew a Philippine Scout, or someone who worked with them??

Anyway, my exposure to older Filipino-Americans indicates very distinct clear memory of the last liberation, in 1944/45. And the Navy steward program led to significant concentrations of Filipino-Americans in the San Diego and San Jose areas. And for reasons I don't understand, but love, Filipino guys are waaay into firearms. One of the most noticeable patterns at local shooting ranges - groups of Filipino-Americans. All ages. Often bringing their relatives from the Philippines with them.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 31, 2021 10:47 PM (OTzUX)

467 Cicero, employment litigation?
Have you dealt with a lot of sexual harassment cases?
Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 10:46 PM (L2ZTs)

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Lots. I settled one a few weeks ago.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 10:47 PM (VxC1e)

468 anyone see that Titanic meme with 'you can't make me wear a life vest'
?

dude, people are dumb, the water was like 40F and those in the water hypothermia-ed to death

it was even in the movie with the naked Kate Winslet

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:48 PM (bTQ72)

469 Sauerkraut. What's your take?
Posted by: Robert - 3 Days until Iron Maiden's new album, Senjutsu at August 31, 2021 10:13 PM (zMjrO)


1-3/4 lbs of chopped cabbage and 2 tsp of salt, allowed to sit to sweat for 20 minutes and then packed into a quart jar. If the brine is not enough to cover the slaw, pour brine in to cover.
You can add shredded carrots, garlic or peppers if you like.
Let sit on the drainboard for 2-5 days and then stick in the fridge.
It will keep six months
It will stay crunchy even when it turns beige

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 10:48 PM (HG00O)

470 You left off "slimy".
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 31, 2021 10:44 PM (+lVUW)You


Goes without saying.
Just thinking about it and i gag.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 10:48 PM (axyOa)

471 455 So here I was enjoying the comments and then someone just had to bring up the devil's veggie...okra.
Vile.
Nasty
Evil

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 10:41 PM (axyOa)


I like to order a side of fried okra when it's on the menu. And okra based gumbo is pretty damn good too if they don't get carried away with it.

But picking them sumbitches ain't no fun.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 10:49 PM (F0YaR)

472 I tried pickled eggs recently. They tasted to me like they belonged in a potato salad.

Posted by: Emmie at August 31, 2021 10:49 PM (6RgRK)

473 Anyone hear from Mrs. Peel since Sunday?
Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2021 09:19 PM (mbFEM)

Prolly already answered, but she was on a day thread today.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2021 10:49 PM (1nY0b)

474 Cicero, so the answer is "yeah, he knows lots of employment lawyers! Oh, and they all suck!". Fair enough.

Let's see if she shows and has more details.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 31, 2021 10:49 PM (OTzUX)

475 Kimchee > sauerkraut...
Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:19 PM (8/lWk)


My wife agrees. I have been bugging her to buy napa cabbage so we can make some

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 10:50 PM (HG00O)

476
i do not eat oakra, Obamma eats oakra

or was that arugula? anyway nope to both

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 31, 2021 10:51 PM (bTQ72)

477 It is super easy. Slice the jalapenos into rings. Boil water, vinegar , kosher salt, sugar,a couple of cloves of garlic. Push the jalapenos into the mix and take it off the stove. When they turn that nice light green, cool slightly and put them in a canning type hjar and refrigerate.
Recipe from Simplyscratch.com.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 31, 2021 10:51 PM (Y+l9t)

478 sharon, thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 10:53 PM (L2ZTs)

479 The problem with plaintiffs' employment lawyers is most of them are contingent-fee mills staffed with green paper-pushers with less than 10 years experience. With a few exceptions, they settle cases and have very little actual trial experience.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 10:53 PM (VxC1e)

480 Do you see why I am like I am!?
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2021 10:21 PM (mD/uy)


Tedeschi!

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 10:53 PM (HG00O)

481 Pickled jalapenos and carrots, and onions, that great fixture on a Mexican table. You can buy good canned versions, have always meant to do it myself, not complicated, but lazy. I remember in earlier years, every border Mex place in SoCal had those. At some point they became less common, you had to ask for them.

Which is nothing in terms of culinary/cultural outrage alongside the near impossibility of finding a restaurant that does Vietnamese coffee the right way, where they bring you about 11 different things and you do the drip thing there at the table, at your own pace, your own way. The "phin", or little metal dripper with the coffee, plus a glass of ice, thermos of boiled water, little dish to fill with boiled water and put the coffee cup in to heat the sua (sweetened condensed milk).

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 31, 2021 10:55 PM (OTzUX)

482 Cicero, I recently saw one of those midnight tort lawyer ads on TV, where they were talking about their expertise and readiness "before the jury."

I had to laugh. Even I, a low level paralegal flunky, know how few cases anywhere ever end up in front of a jury, especially civil cases.

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 10:55 PM (L2ZTs)

483 I like to order a side of fried okra when it's on the menu. And okra based gumbo is pretty damn good too if they don't get carried away with it.

But picking them sumbitches ain't no fun.
Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 10:49 PM (F0YaR)


Picking them?
There is a reason God gave us naplam and agent orange.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 10:55 PM (axyOa)

484 I thought pickles were cucumbers in brine.
Posted by: Sister, aka ALH at August 31, 2021 10:22 PM (/g7XU)


this is like saying Jackson Pollock is high art. It is more complex, actual pickles are cukes that have been fermented with Lactobacillus in seasoned brine.
You can just soak cukes in salty vinegar and call it good, but really isn't the same.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 10:56 PM (HG00O)

485 ...to heat the sua (sweetened condensed milk).

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 31, 2021 10:55 PM



That sounds like an awful lot of work for a mug of poop juice...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 10:56 PM (8/lWk)

486 But picking them sumbitches ain't no fun.
Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 10:49 PM (F0YaR)


There is a spineless variety that can be eaten raw picked straight off the plant (assuming you didn't use Roundup). My kids used to eat about half of what they picked while still in the field.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 10:57 PM (hOUT3)

487 I had to laugh. Even I, a low level paralegal flunky, know how few cases anywhere ever end up in front of a jury, especially civil cases.
Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 10:55 PM (L2ZTs)

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That's especially true of employment cases because the entire system is stacked against the employer. I tell my clients that EVERY employee lawsuit is a losing proposition for the employer. The only question is, how much eil the employer lose?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 10:57 PM (VxC1e)

488 America has had three wars that have renowned to the glory of an Empire among the greatest in history.

Name them.
Posted by: TC at August 31, 2021 10:20 PM (BR6SG)


French and Indian, Revolutionary, and Spanish American.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 10:58 PM (HG00O)

489

Okra has spines, too??

My God, Jim...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:00 PM (8/lWk)

490 Looks like we are about to get hit with the remnants of the storm. Wonder if I will get a flash flood alarm in the middle of the night again.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 31, 2021 11:00 PM (Y+l9t)

491 French and Indian, Revolutionary, and Spanish American.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 10:58 PM (HG00O)


One of three.

Posted by: TC at August 31, 2021 11:00 PM (BR6SG)

492 Bad news: NSA is designing weaponized okra.

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 11:00 PM (L2ZTs)

493 No Zettai, it's no trouble, it's nice, it's ritual. And even if you're not sitting at a cafe on a main street in Saigon, admiring the passing scenery (female fauna), the waitress makes lots of trips to your table, which usually was one more big plus.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 31, 2021 11:00 PM (OTzUX)

494 Usually not a problem for me. It's 9 here and bedtime for me. Worst that happens is I'll sometimes wake up at 4 and just get up at 5. I'm just sad during the day. I'll get through it tomorrow too.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 31, 2021 11:01 PM (YynYJ)

495 Brine and brine! What is brine?

Posted by: Kara at August 31, 2021 11:01 PM (Owx4w)

496

Everyone's run off to acquire some manner of fermented, brined delicacy, I suppose...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:03 PM (8/lWk)

497 I didn't even know Mtn Dew was fermented and brined!

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 11:03 PM (L2ZTs)

498 America has had three wars that have renowned to the glory of an Empire among the greatest in history.

Name them.
Posted by: TC at August 31, 2021 10:20 PM (BR6SG)


Poverty
Drugs
Hunger

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 11:05 PM (axyOa)

499 Gonna have to fire up the Weber tomorrow, brats with kraut.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 11:05 PM (Owx4w)

500

Mmmmm... Petite Vietnamese wymynx...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:06 PM (8/lWk)

501 I was up last night til almost 3 am finally finishing an 1100 page book. It was definitely worth the effort.
Think I'll try for a little earlier tonight.
Have a good night. Sweet dreams.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 31, 2021 11:06 PM (Y+l9t)

502 Bad news: NSA is designing weaponized okra.
Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 11:00 PM (L2ZTs),

Bob you sonnavabitch!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 11:06 PM (axyOa)

503

*pictures something like the "Da Nang Hooker", but a bit classier...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:07 PM (8/lWk)

504 Looks like we are about to get hit with the remnants of the storm. Wonder if I will get a flash flood alarm in the middle of the night again.
Posted by: sharon
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Been raining in W. NC most of the day. We haven't recovered from Fred flooding yet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 11:08 PM (pbStR)

505

*he propositions her on a lark, and she promptly rejects the offer with an stern "too beaucoup"...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:09 PM (8/lWk)

506 >Pickled jalapenos and carrots, and onions, that great fixture on a Mexican table.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 31, 2021 10:55 PM (OTzUX)

Yeah, those pickled veg on an authentic Mexican taco is the bomb. Now that I think about it, the little hole-in-the-wall Mexican joint near us doesn't have the bin of pickled veg out for communal usage any more. Probably a victim of the coof.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 11:10 PM (DXFDM)

507 Bad news: NSA is designing weaponized okra.
Posted by: qdpsteve
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A form of slime?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 11:10 PM (l0Lgi)

508 Notsothoreau, keep pushing on then. Depression steals the colors out of life, and steals your motivation to do anything about it.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 11:10 PM (HG00O)

509
So. A lot of people, with non-mainstream (?) opinions, are being banned from Twitter, Facebook Instagram, etc.

One thing they all have in common is that they are American Citizens.

Has anyone bothered to ask: "The hired people who decide whether or not to ban the on-line comments (i.e., speech) of Citizens of the US; what is their work authorization status?"

I, for one, have a major problem with a bunch of non-citizen H1-Bs judging whether or not, in my country, my speech should be banned.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 31, 2021 11:10 PM (FlRtG)

510 1812? Mexican?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 11:12 PM (l0Lgi)

511

Weaponised vegetables!

I'd read the Indian Army deploys a riot gas made from local hot peppers...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:12 PM (8/lWk)

512 I, for one, have a major problem with a bunch of non-citizen H1-Bs judging whether or not, in my country, my speech should be banned.
Posted by: Arbalest at August 31, 2021 11:10 PM (FlRtG)


Is there Spanish facebook? Is it being censored?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 11:13 PM (HG00O)

513 I, for one, have a major problem with a bunch of non-citizen H1-Bs judging whether or not, in my country, my speech should be banned.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 31, 2021 11:10 PM (FlRtG)


"You're not who WE are!" seems to have won the day!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at August 31, 2021 11:13 PM (hOUT3)

514 Lenhartsville?

My maternal grandmother is a Lenhart up one part of her family tree. And yeah, she's half Swede, half Pennsylvania Dutch...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at August 31, 2021 11:17 PM (ZSK0i)

515 505

*he propositions her on a lark, and she promptly rejects the offer with an stern "too beaucoup"...
Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:09 PM (8/lWk)

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So she terned him away?

Sorry.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 11:17 PM (VxC1e)

516 Has Joe Biden resigned yet?

Posted by: Just Wondering at August 31, 2021 11:18 PM (jYQlA)

517 I like Ghurka pickles.

Posted by: Gunga Din at August 31, 2021 11:18 PM (AytXr)

518 That joke took a lot of gull.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 11:18 PM (VxC1e)

519 It was so bad I nearly finched myself.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 11:19 PM (VxC1e)

520 Owl try again later.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 11:19 PM (VxC1e)

521
I'd read the Indian Army deploys a riot gas made from local hot peppers...
Posted by: Zettai
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I may have done that myself. May have...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 11:20 PM (AytXr)

522

Cicero is en fuego this evening!

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:21 PM (8/lWk)

523
Robert Malone mentioned he was fact-checked by a high-school dropout working at Big Tech.

Tucker was talking a while back about some bitch at Yahoo who was in charge of censoring this. None of them are anywhere near qualified to judge what some of these actual real experts in their fields are saying.

You've got gender studies majors fact-checking MDs, Ph.Ds, etc in hard scientific fields.

Suppose say Richard Feynman had some disagreement with some "consensus" of other physicists on something. What you would do? Let Mr. Feynman argue with those others, in full open debate.

You wouldn't have English majors trying to decide who was right and then censoring Feynman.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 31, 2021 11:23 PM (Mzdiz)

524

Richard Feynman was a character...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:25 PM (8/lWk)

525 You wouldn't have English majors trying to decide who was right and then censoring Feynman.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 31, 2021 11:23 PM (Mzdiz)
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Of course not, silly. The Women's Studies Majors do the physics fact checking.

Sheesh.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at August 31, 2021 11:25 PM (2SdPm)

526 Here's a nice 'no regrets' quote from Sirhan Sirhan --

"They can gas me, but I am famous. I have achieved in one day what it took Robert Kennedy all his life to do"
Sirhan Sirhan

Yeah, parole this murderous prick.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 11:26 PM (F0YaR)

527 Wren are you guys gonna be done with the puns?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 11:27 PM (axyOa)

528 And for reasons I don't understand, but love, Filipino guys are waaay into firearms.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 31, 2021 10:47 PM


I think there's a 2A streak embedded in our DNA. Incidentally, Vice is a fear-mongering commie propaganda organ, but this is an interesting watch.

https://youtu.be/pq1TXEE_QK4

Posted by: Bert G at August 31, 2021 11:27 PM (sH/RF)

529 >You wouldn't have English majors trying to decide who was right and then censoring Feynman.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 31, 2021 11:23 PM (Mzdiz)

History shows that it's quite easy and beneficial to get the dumbest amongst the population to become enforcers of orthodoxy. Anyone who could think for themselves wouldn't be caught dead doing such a job.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 11:27 PM (DXFDM)

530 That hailstorm that I described in the afternoon thread carried on east and got worse. Several houses in town had holes punched in the vinyl siding, and trees were stripped of leaves.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2021 11:27 PM (IPycB)

531 >Richard Feynman was a character...
Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:25 PM (8/lWk)

I recommend the book by Feynman's friend chronicling their quest to get to Tuva right at the end of the Soviet Union, "Tuva or Bust".

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 11:29 PM (DXFDM)

532 Yeah, parole this murderous prick.
Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 11:26 PM (F0YaR)

Someone needs to convince him that Joe Biden and Gavin Newsome conspired to keep him in jail for 50-odd years.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2021 11:30 PM (IPycB)

533 That hailstorm that I described in the afternoon thread carried on east and got worse. Several houses in town had holes punched in the vinyl siding, and trees were stripped of leaves.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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But, did you get your car tag(s)?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 11:30 PM (DMQdU)

534 No. I'm not getting engaged to some dude.


Posted by: hogmartin at August 31, 2021 09:48 PM (ghoDT)


But my coworker is. I asked him point-blank: "How do you decide who proposes?" And he told me that his partner is effeminate and he's more masculine, so he decided he'd he be the one to propose.


To add to the irony, the coworker's plan involves a Skillet concert, and Skillet is a hardcore Christian rock band. Oh, and he regularly prays for Pooky.

Posted by: pookysgirl's true stories are stranger than fiction at August 31, 2021 11:30 PM (XKZwp)

535 pookysgirl, one of the most conservative Christians I've ever known is also a very masculine lesbian. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 11:32 PM (L2ZTs)

536 All these bird puns flew right over my head.

Posted by: JuJuBee at August 31, 2021 11:32 PM (mNhhD)

537 But, did you get your car tag(s)?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 11:30 PM (DMQdU)

I did. But no stickers for the tags. Alberta has stopped issuing year/month stickers for the plates.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2021 11:33 PM (IPycB)

538 Hail: Thor's kidney stones.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 11:33 PM (Owx4w)

539 I recommend the book by Feynman's friend chronicling their quest to get to Tuva right at the end of the Soviet Union, "Tuva or Bust".
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen
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Also:
'Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman! (Adventures of a Curious Character)'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 11:34 PM (ELgVT)

540 Anyone who read "Tuva or Bust" knew that Mongolian throat singing was cool before The Hu monetized it.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 11:34 PM (DXFDM)

541 Sharkman, do you have the Criterion edition of Videodrome?

I never saw it but still remember the clip of the TV set, er, "pulsating." (Bad early 80s special effects.)

Posted by: qdpsteve



Just Amazon Prime download.

The TV was moaning, too, and had gnarly veins popping out all over it, don't forget!

I nearly busted a gut laughing tonight.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2021 11:34 PM (n8fCP)

542 I wore a suit and tie for 18 years. Now it's jeans and carrhart pocketed tees, and my YES t-shirt shirt on Fridays.

Posted by: Bosk at August 31, 2021 11:34 PM (yh68b)

543 LOL. Just read the following story elsewhere:

"Just experienced LA to its fullest. A woman I know ate a habanero pepper and panicked. Someone I know offered her a glass of milk. She paused mid-freakout and asked, 'do you have almond milk?'"

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 31, 2021 11:35 PM (L2ZTs)

544 But maybe it's time to retire the tie except for strictly formal situations.
--
Men used to wear them all the time and there weren't mountains of dead littering the streets.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2021 09:04 PM


I would think any constriction issue would come from too tight of a collar when the top button is buttoned than anything from the tie.

Posted by: Chuck C at August 31, 2021 11:35 PM (EughT)

545 I recommend the book by Feynman's friend chronicling their quest to get to Tuva right at the end of the Soviet Union, "Tuva or Bust".
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen


Years ago I saw a PBS special on that.

Posted by: davidt at August 31, 2021 11:35 PM (Owx4w)

546 I think there's a 2A streak embedded in our DNA. Incidentally, Vice is a fear-mongering commie propaganda organ, but this is an interesting watch.

Posted by: Bert G at August 31, 2021 11:27 PM (sH/RF)


Saw it, everything but the holophobe's experience was interesting

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 11:35 PM (HG00O)

547 Someone needs to convince him that Joe Biden and Gavin Newsome conspired to keep him in jail for 50-odd years.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2021 11:30 PM (IPycB)


I heard they 've been sniffing around Jodie Foster. I sure hope no one tells John Hinckley.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 11:35 PM (axyOa)

548 I heard they 've been sniffing around Jodie Foster. I sure hope no one tells John Hinckley.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2021 11:35 PM (axyOa)

Heh.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2021 11:37 PM (IPycB)

549 Biden needs more flair on his vest as a Walmart Target greeter. Milley could lend him some of his ribbons.

Posted by: JuJuBee at August 31, 2021 11:38 PM (mNhhD)

550 Of course not, silly. The Women's Studies Majors do the physics fact checking.

Sheesh.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at August 31, 2021 11:25 PM (2SdPm)

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It just kills me that 27 year-old grievance studies majors censor the thoughts of honest-to-goodness geniuses on social media. The Lilliputians aren't fit to shine the shoes of those that they presume to edit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 11:38 PM (VxC1e)

551 If Santa Claus wanted to gift me the hardcover Feynman physics lectures set some year, I wouldn't mind...

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 11:38 PM (DXFDM)

552

That video of the Philippine handmade gun operation is interesting...

I can't believe that they can make a working 1911 with hack saws and files as depicted, though...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:39 PM (8/lWk)

553 There are other members of the Horde who know the ACW as well as I know WW2, so I'll defer to them, but the American Civil War is, perhaps, the first modern war. It was the first significant war to use trains to move troops and materiel (strategically, not so much tactically, but still), telegraphy, troop concentrations on a mass scale that could not have been managed before then, theaters of battle of enormous scale, gatling guns, etc. It was studied around the world. Hitler discussed it with his generals. WW1, to my understanding, was more about throwing in fresh troops in huge numbers to overwhelm Germany when Britain and France had seen their military-age pool of men nearly wiped out. (Cf. The Lost Generation) That was, in part, why appeasement was so popular leading up to WW2. But anyway, American Revolutionary War, American Civil War, and WW2. Those are our big 3 in terms of military, political, and social impact, in my mind (such that it is).

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 31, 2021 11:40 PM (KAi1n)

554 Yeah, parole this murderous prick.
Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 11:26 PM (F0YaR)


Meh. RFK's sons supported sirhan^2's parole. If they don't care, why should I? However, our illustrious secret service better have s^2 on their A-list.

Posted by: Chuck C at August 31, 2021 11:40 PM (EughT)

555 Among Feynman's incisive observations was that you can have the most beautifully elegant theory ever devised but if its predictions don't match reality, it isn't worth shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2021 11:40 PM (VxC1e)

556 Biden needs more flair on his vest as a Walmart Target greeter. Milley could lend him some of his ribbons.
Posted by: JuJuBee at August 31, 2021 11:38 PM (mNhhD)

The U.S. Olympic Team should have recruited him as a javelin catcher.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2021 11:40 PM (IPycB)

557
Feynman had a heavy New York accent. It was a hoot. Pauli said he "talks like a bum". Sounded like one of Archie Bunker's buddies at Kelsey's Bar.

One of the most brilliant physicists ever and he sounded like an NYC cabbie.

And a Nobel Laureate, who along with Schwinger and another one, won the Nobel for Quantum Electrodynamics.

And he had the talent for explaining these concepts in language anyone could follow.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 31, 2021 11:42 PM (Mzdiz)

558 But anyway, American Revolutionary War, American Civil War, and WW2. Those are our big 3 in terms of military, political, and social impact, in my mind (such that it is).
Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 31, 2021 11:40 PM (KAi1n)

The Civil War also saw the first widespread use of man-carrying balloons as artillery observation platforms.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2021 11:43 PM (IPycB)

559

Feynman would have made a fine Moron...

Posted by: Zettai at August 31, 2021 11:43 PM (8/lWk)

560 If Santa Claus wanted to gift me the hardcover Feynman physics lectures set some year, I wouldn't mind...
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 11:38 PM


You probably already know this site, but if not ...
https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/

Posted by: Chuck C at August 31, 2021 11:45 PM (EughT)

561 There are other members of the Horde who know the ACW as well as I know WW2, so I'll defer to them, but the American Civil War is, perhaps, the first modern war. It was the first significant war to use trains to move troops and materiel (strategically, not so much tactically, but still), telegraphy, troop concentrations on a mass scale that could not have been managed before then, theaters of battle of enormous scale, gatling guns, etc. It was studied around the world.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 31, 2021 11:40 PM (KAi1n)

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It really was, especially with trenches and tactics. Look at Brady photos from Petersburg in 1864. Except for Springfield muskets instead of Springfield bolt-actions, most of those pictures could be straight out of France in 1918.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at August 31, 2021 11:47 PM (lNHqD)

562 Evenin'.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 31, 2021 11:48 PM (Ectld)

563
When Feynman was working on the Manhattan Project, he pulled a few pranks. One funny one could've gotten him in a lot of trouble. He broke into a safe where classified material was kept and put some message to let them know he was there. Something like that.

As he later explained, you had all these great physicists there who would come up with combinations and think were so clever that no one could guess it.

Well, he knew how they thought, and was able to easily guess. Let's see, old Bohr here, what would he think was some very sneaky, clever combination of numbers? Boom.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 31, 2021 11:50 PM (Mzdiz)

564 Randomly chiming in among the pickled kidney stones and haberdashery comments...

I still can't get eight of the Twitvids from the cafe thread. I get the "something's wrong, try again" page. Over and over andover lac

Just for fun, I checked isitdownrightnow.com, and it said, "Twitter.com is DOWN for everyone. It is not just you. The server is not responding." But, it also told me Twitter "has been unreachable for more than 200 days." Ha!

I checked on downforeveryoneorjustme.com. Reply was, "It's just you. twitter.com is up, except for Donald Trump."

Posted by: mindful the technowizard webworker at August 31, 2021 11:50 PM (J5T7h)

565 Among Feynman's incisive observations was that you can have the most beautifully elegant theory ever devised but if its predictions don't match reality, it isn't worth shit.
Posted by: Cicero
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Faraday said it first:
"They reason theoretically, without demonstrating experimentally, and errors are the result."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2021 11:50 PM (9Fwwf)

566 Posted by: Chuck C at August 31, 2021 11:45 PM (EughT)

I did do a search on West Exec, based on your reco -- Damn, wut a buncha shitheels. Blinken is their #1 stooge.

It's like a commie pipeline, but it pumps shit instead of oil. And the valves are wide open.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 31, 2021 11:51 PM (F0YaR)

567 >You probably already know this site, but if not ...
https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/
Posted by: Chuck C at August 31, 2021 11:45 PM (EughT)

Thanks. I do recall that they are online. Unfortunately, trying to absorb such weighty material from reading on a screen is difficult for me for some strange reason, so I really want them on dead tree. That, plus it would be nice to seal them up twice in a vacuum seal bag, then throw them in the septic tank, for recovery after face colander days.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 11:52 PM (DXFDM)

568 >Well, he knew how they thought, and was able to easily guess. Let's see, old Bohr here, what would he think was some very sneaky, clever combination of numbers? Boom.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 31, 2021 11:50 PM (Mzdiz)

Social engineering, before it had a name.

Yes, Feynman would be a Platinum-level Horde member.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 31, 2021 11:54 PM (DXFDM)

569
One of my favorite Feynman wisdom, and I'm ashamed how it went exactly, was when trying to figure out something, be careful not to let yourself be fooled, because you are the easiest person to fool.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 31, 2021 11:54 PM (Mzdiz)

570 Cao Dai was known to do very good guns in workshops like that in Vietnam

Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2021 11:57 PM (HG00O)

571 Now I'm going to discuss how we would look for a new law. In general, we look for a new law by the following process. First, we guess it (audience laughter), no, don't laugh, that's the truth. Then we compute the consequences of the guess, to see what, if this is right, if this law we guess is right, to see what it would imply and then we compare the computation results to nature or we say compare to experiment or experience, compare it directly with observations to see if it works.

If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It doesn't make any difference how beautiful your guess is, it doesn't matter how smart you are who made the guess, or what his name is ... If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. That's all there is to it.

-Mr. Feynman

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 31, 2021 11:59 PM (Mzdiz)

572 There's a vid out there of Feynman in a TV interview. The interviewer produces a couple of ring magnets, places them on a wooden spike, as to repel, and asks Feynman, "Can you explain that to me?" Feynman replies, "Yes, I could, but you don't possess the vocabulary to understand."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 12:02 AM (AytXr)

573 It is not unscientific to take a guess, although many people who are not in science believe that it is.

More Mr. Feynman.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 12:05 AM (Mzdiz)

574 Alberta has stopped issuing year/month stickers for the plates

So you're all Criminals now! Convenient, no?

Posted by: Common Tater at September 01, 2021 12:06 AM (pQrYJ)

575 >If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. That's all there is to it.

-Mr. Feynman
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 31, 2021 11:59 PM (Mzdiz)

One would have to think he'd be mortified by American science 2021. Putting aside all of the politics and wokeness, look at how much of supposed science is just modeling stuff and then feeding back in the inputs needed to tweak the model to get the desired output. The self-licking ice cream cone.

Feynman appreciated epistemology, experimenting with mind-altering substances, being a raconteur and trickster, and course talk. Naturally he would fit in here.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 01, 2021 12:06 AM (DXFDM)

576 ..There's a vid out there of Feynman in a TV interview. The interviewer produces a couple of ring magnets, places them on a wooden spike, as to repel, and asks Feynman, "Can you explain that to me?" Feynman replies, "Yes, I could, but you don't possess the vocabulary to understand." Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 12:02 AM (AytXr)

Mr. Hammer. THAT needs to be a permanent embed right alongside your Spillane quote 'bout killin' commies.

Frankly, I need the image of those spiked magnets on a tee-shirt, screen-printed along with that quote. That goes on the back of the shirt. "Comedy AU" goes on the crest over the pocket-protector.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 01, 2021 12:07 AM (QzJWU)

577 So you're all Criminals now! Convenient, no?
Posted by: Common Tater at September 01, 2021 12:06 AM (pQrYJ)

I guess they figure with the near-universal use of computer terminals in cop cars, the cops can simply run the plate number, and see if it is current.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 01, 2021 12:08 AM (IPycB)

578 The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.

-Mr. Feynman

Note that Richard Feynman was a Ph.D, not to mention a Nobel Laureate and had a string of credentials and prestigious awards after his name. But he didn't go by even Dr. Feynman. Mr. was fine by him.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 12:09 AM (Mzdiz)

579 "Can you explain that to me?" Feynman replies, "Yes, I could, but you don't possess the vocabulary to understand."
Posted by: Mike Hammer

That's actually an incredibly powerful statement and general concept that goes way beyond physics, but to the ability to perceive the world around you, understand it, and meaningfully communicate with someone. Think of times when you've had a concept on your mind and you're trying to find the words to explain it to someone. Or if you've ever asked someone what they meant when either they didn't have the vocabulary to explain something or you didn't understand theirs.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at September 01, 2021 12:09 AM (KAi1n)

580
Read about Feynman and the "new math". He managed to get on some California textbook review board or something, being appalled at what the school system was teaching his child, IIRC. He was absolutely aghast.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 12:11 AM (Mzdiz)

581 Lincoln was the founder of total war. It has never been repeated as well since.

Posted by: TC at September 01, 2021 12:11 AM (BR6SG)

582 I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.

More Mr. Feynman.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 12:12 AM (Mzdiz)

583 Camera plate readers. Good stuff, they catch a lot of crooks that way. Or could, if they don't simultaneously decide to let the lawless run wild. We live in a police state, of that there is no argument. Why is there so much crime?

I read an article once, that implied they have electronic VIN scanners too, which sounds doable. I think. The VIN location has been standardized on the DS dash for some time.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 01, 2021 12:12 AM (pQrYJ)

584 First figure out why you want the students to learn the subject and what you want them to know, and the method will result more or less by common sense.
.....

Physics is to math as sex is to masturbation.
...

If I could explain it to the average person, it wouldn't have been worth the Nobel Prize.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 12:14 AM (Mzdiz)

585 "Lincoln was the founder of total war."

Sorry. No.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 12:15 AM (Ectld)

586 I read an article once, that implied they have electronic VIN scanners too, which sounds doable. I think. The VIN location has been standardized on the DS dash for some time.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 01, 2021 12:12 AM (pQrYJ)

I think there is a barcode there, along with the human-readable characters.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 01, 2021 12:15 AM (IPycB)

587 Or if you've ever asked someone what they meant when either they didn't have the vocabulary to explain something or you didn't understand theirs.
Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at September 01, 2021 12:09 AM (KAi1n)

I could have sworn there was a quote about how our ability to identify things in our head (give them names) inherently shapes our perception of that world. The more exact the word, the better the perception (or conception.)

Everything is covered in fog. Language clears it away.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:15 AM (csEWM)

588 ..I read an article once, that implied they have electronic VIN scanners too, which sounds doable. I think. The VIN location has been standardized on the DS dash for some time. Posted by: Common Tater at September 01, 2021 12:12 AM (pQrYJ)

Deliberate and purposeful dashboard clutter, for the win. Ever seen the average construction subcontractor's truck? Dashboard full of invoices, receipts, tool and product catalogs, etc.

Oops. Oopsie!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 01, 2021 12:15 AM (QzJWU)

589 585 "Lincoln was the founder of total war."

Sorry. No.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 12:15 AM (Ectld)

Rome, Carthage.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:15 AM (csEWM)

590 That was my first thought.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 12:16 AM (Ectld)

591 Sorry. No.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 12:15 AM (Ectld)


You've got do better than that. Name someone.

Posted by: TC at September 01, 2021 12:18 AM (BR6SG)

592 Rome, Corinth.

Rome, dammit... the city to the north of Rome... Veii(sp?)!

The Mongols and various poor bastard slavic peoples.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:20 AM (csEWM)

593 Genghis Khan was pretty good at total war.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 01, 2021 12:21 AM (IPycB)

594 One would say that a lot of wars in antiquity were total war when they really got down to business.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:21 AM (csEWM)

595 >I could have sworn there was a quote about how our ability to identify things in our head (give them names) inherently shapes our perception of that world. The more exact the word, the better the perception (or conception.)

Everything is covered in fog. Language clears it away.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:15 AM (csEWM)

Always thought that the part in Genesis 2 where God gives Adam the ability to name the beasts of the Earth was an interesting passage, and that it implies what you said.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 01, 2021 12:22 AM (DXFDM)

596 Mr. Hammer. THAT needs to be a permanent embed right alongside your Spillane quote 'bout killin' commies.

Jim
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I was quoting from memory, here's the vid, it's RICH, only 7 minutes, play it in the background. https://tinyurl.com/kw6c9xcs

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 12:23 AM (pbStR)

597 I'm not a military history type, but my first thought was the Punic wars. And I wouldn't assume they were the first.

Assyrians destroyed all the cities and enslaved everyone who survived to transplant them so they wouldn't be able to rebel.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 12:24 AM (Ectld)

598 Always thought that the part in Genesis 2 where God gives Adam the ability to name the beasts of the Earth was an interesting passage, and that it implies what you said.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 01, 2021 12:22 AM (DXFDM)

I wonder what name Adam would have given the platypus?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 01, 2021 12:25 AM (IPycB)

599 Welcome, Afghans:

https://is.gd/kR1VPO

Posted by: Braenyard at September 01, 2021 12:25 AM (oGc0G)

600 Mmmm...Milky Way.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 12:25 AM (Ectld)

601 I wonder what name Adam would have given the platypus?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 01, 2021 12:25 AM (IPycB)
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platypus

Posted by: Braenyard at September 01, 2021 12:26 AM (oGc0G)

602 "I wonder what name Adam would have given the platypus?"

That screwy looking duck thing? I have no idea.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 12:26 AM (Ectld)

603 I'm smart enough to know that I'm dumb
...
Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.
....

I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
.....

If you thought that science was certain -- well, that is just an error on your part.
....

That there is some fuckin' weapons-grade wisdom.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 12:26 AM (Mzdiz)

604 They deliberately took away our flat dashboards.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 01, 2021 12:28 AM (oGc0G)

605 586 Yes there is a barcode there which among other things can be read by my new alignment machine

Posted by: MAxIE at September 01, 2021 12:29 AM (dVkJu)

606 Lincoln was the founder of total war. It has never been repeated as well since.
Posted by: TC

Pfffft

Posted by: Bomber Harris at September 01, 2021 12:30 AM (KAi1n)

607 The physics has frightened everyone away.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 12:38 AM (9Fwwf)

608 Lincoln was the founder of total war. It has never been repeated as well since.
Posted by: TC

Disagree. But let's define terms. My definition of Total War is making war in a way that is not just against the armies in the field, but also against the ability of country's citizens to support that army (whether that involves directly killing/enslaving that populace.)

Both the Germans and the Soviets did a FAR more brutal version of this on each other. Hell, the atom bomb drops were far more total than anything Lincoln did.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:38 AM (csEWM)

609 Both the Germans and the Soviets did a FAR more brutal version of this on each other. Hell, the atom bomb drops were far more total than anything Lincoln did.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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*cough* *cough*

Posted by: Attila at September 01, 2021 12:41 AM (WZ5i4)

610 Although, one could argue about the atom bombs vs the civil war.

I would still argue on the Germans/Soviet thing though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:42 AM (csEWM)

611 Well, got a little more progress made on my VW floor pan truncation for the dune buggy. Finished the cutting yesterday; and today loaded the cut halves on the pickup (with its newly re-repaired tire),and drove it to the carwash and blasted grease, sand, and assorted muck out of the frame tunnel. It's now quite clean inside.

Brought it home, and laid it out on the worktable. Got the heater control cable guide tubes withdrawn from the frame extension horns. Also the fuel line from the rear section of frame. And got the fuel line mostly freed from the front section of frame. I probably could have reused the old fuel line, and joined the halves with a compression union, but I prefer to run a new 1/4" Cunifer line.

Then the T-storm drove me inside.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 01, 2021 12:42 AM (IPycB)

612 *cough* *cough*
Posted by: Attila at September 01, 2021 12:41 AM (WZ5i4)

You want to go another round, man?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:43 AM (csEWM)

613
You want to go another round, man?
Posted by: Aetius
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Doood...I forgot that you were here.

Posted by: Attila at September 01, 2021 12:45 AM (vOGqy)

614 Re: language, Whig would enjoy this (not that other here wouldn't):
https://law.justia.com/cases/california/supreme-

court/2d/35/175.html

It's a 1950 Cal. Supreme Court opinion. Skip the specifics. I'm referring to the part beginning with the 2nd paragraph after [6], beginning with "An insistence". When you say that the language of a statute is clear, is your clarity of understanding the same as the clarity of understanding of the drafters of the statute? Bear in mind, statutes are often drafted to solve problems in the real world. These problems exist independent of being framed, linguistically, by legislators. In applying the statute, do so to solve the problem that the legislators were addressing, not to adhere to pedantic adherence to the particular words themselves. CA Civil Code sec. 3340 was copied word-for-word from an earlier NY statute. Well, except for a comma missing from the CA version which changes a particular clause from a parenthetical to a restrictive relative clause. Did anyone involved in either state have any idea about this? For want of a comma, does the meaning of the statute accurately address the problem to be solved?

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at September 01, 2021 12:46 AM (KAi1n)

615 ..I was quoting from memory, here's the vid, it's RICH, only 7 minutes, play it in the background. https://tinyurl.com/kw6c9xcs Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 12:23 AM (pbStR)

Mr. Feynman accidentally explains something I've long postulated, that the post-resurrection Christ, being Light, Life and Love, and not only owner of, but the Creator of the Laws of Physics, would have no problem having walked through the wall as seen by the disciples when He made Himself known to them before the Ascension.

Simple (to Him), matter of Him attenuating either or both His or the walls' particle frequencies to "the same" or otherwise harmonize, and like water through water, there He is, there He goes.

Doesn't violate the laws of physics, does violate the limitations of understanding of those outside of the faith. You may now burn me for my heresy.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 01, 2021 12:46 AM (QzJWU)

616 Doood...I forgot that you were here.
Posted by: Attila at September 01, 2021 12:45 AM (vOGqy)

I do not recall what Atilla died of. Bad fermented mare's milk or something?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:47 AM (csEWM)

617 >> The physics has frightened everyone away.

When from me they fly, I am the wings.

Posted by: Physics at September 01, 2021 12:48 AM (Mzdiz)

618 You may now burn me for my heresy.

Jim
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Feynman talks about fire in the next vid, or so.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 12:49 AM (vOGqy)

619 "Doesn't violate the laws of physics, does violate the limitations of understanding of those outside of the faith."

Saw a video explaining 4D looking at 3D using 3D looking at 2D one time that twisted my brain in knots that could have interesting religious implications.

I ain't scared of physics, but not really into the philosophy of physics.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 12:50 AM (Ectld)

620 Well, getting close to midnight, and I am getting sleepy. Off to the snoozer I go. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 01, 2021 12:50 AM (IPycB)

621 I do not recall what Atilla died of. Bad fermented mare's milk or something?
Posted by: Aetius
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I think he had a heart attack...really. Apoplexy? Don't recall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 12:50 AM (l0Lgi)

622 He may have suffered from internal hemorrhage according to the wiki. Took sick at a banquet and died.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:53 AM (csEWM)

623 "According to Jordanes, in 453 CE, Attila had just married his latest wife, a young woman named Ildico, and celebrated with great feasting. In the morning, the guards broke into his room and found him dead in his bed, his bride weeping over him. There was no wound, and it seemed as though Attila had hemorrhaged through his nose, and he choked on his own blood."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 12:54 AM (l0Lgi)

624 Atilla died of boinking the 24,349th concubine freshly perfumed and brought to his tent.

We should all call our girlfriends or wives "Hunny". The odds of being correct will be in our favor.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 01, 2021 12:55 AM (QzJWU)

625
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

-Arthur C. Clarke.

Posted by: Physics at September 01, 2021 12:55 AM (Mzdiz)

626 That's what happens when you marry a young one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 12:55 AM (l0Lgi)

627 Attila and Ildiko are both common given names in Hungary.

Posted by: Miklos, chiming in at September 01, 2021 01:00 AM (QzkSJ)

628 >> Saw a video explaining 4D looking at 3D using 3D looking at 2D

Flatlanders.

It's a useful concept for imagining higher dimensions. The trouble is, we can visualize 3 dimensions in our mind's eye. We can't visualize four. You have to rely on pure math to do that. Sort of a like a pilot flying on instruments. Your 3D intuition helps you build those instruments, but you've got to rely on them exclusively into higher dimensions.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 01:00 AM (Mzdiz)

629 "We can't visualize four. "

Trust me. I know. It wrecks me every time I do. But the explanation did help to visualize what would happen in that situation.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 01:02 AM (Ectld)

630 Let's be honest about something: If the U.S. had put its resources into improving its heavy bomber and escort fleets (quality and quantity) in lieu of ground warfare in Europe/Africa, we could've basically flattened every German city of any significant size by night bombing like the British did. Even early on, we could've hit western German cities like Cologne, Dusseldorf, Munster, etc., night after night after night, and even smaller cities/large towns that lacked significant AAA defenses. At a certain point, Germany would've been functionally depopulated.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at September 01, 2021 01:03 AM (KAi1n)

631 Attila and Ildiko are both common given names in Hungary.
Posted by: Miklos
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Ah. Was wondering if you would show up.

The Genius Award winner tonight is stated as being from Chocowinity. WTH?! Have you ever heard of Chocowinity? Apparently in Beaufort county.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 01:04 AM (l0Lgi)

632
Re 4 dimensions. We live in a 4 dimensional world. Mr. Einstein (with a lot of help from the great mathematicians) describes that as spacetime.

It's important to understand that spacetime is not a simple 4D Euclidean space. Time and space are different. They mix, where one man's space is another man's time, but there is an invariant distinction between the space-like and the time-like.

We live in a (1, 3) dimensional world. One time-like, and 3 space-like dimensions. The interesting thing is, is you can show that such is the only one that "works right". For example, extend gravity to 4 spatial dimensions and 1 time dimension. Stable orbits are no longer possible.

All the other physics goes wonky too. This has to do with the solutions of ellipitical partial differential equations, which are the language the laws of physics are written in.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 01:04 AM (Mzdiz)

633 Hold it...it's NC. Never mind. But I still never heard of it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 01:06 AM (l0Lgi)

634 My 6th grade class read Flatland. "Upward not northward" always stuck with me. If you can't perceive, it's hard to conceive. IIRC, Carl Sagan did an episode of Cosmos where he discussed perceiving 4 dimensions.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at September 01, 2021 01:07 AM (KAi1n)

635 Publius. Here's the weird. I found it actually easier to fly on instruments than VFR. Visual references were subjective, relative and given to "feel".

Instruments, though fluid in movement, were numeric, logical, scalable, associative and in combination, reliable at high percentages.

Even in my first hours of flight, ascending in to "scudding" conditions, I was quite comfortable with the Attitude Indicator, Altimeter and Turn & Bank Indicators. Kind of freaked out my CFI, cause I didn't freak out on the dials, even at 1.1 hrs total time.

Physics is much the same. What are the measurements TELLING you? And then, go from there.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 01, 2021 01:08 AM (QzJWU)

636
A (1, 3) spacetime is not Euclidean but psuedo-Riemannian. Even flat spacetime is not Euclidean. The norm (generalized distance) is not a postitive-definite sum of squares, but a difference of squares.

Time^2 - space^2 (I prefer a positive time-like convention 'cause I want time to be positive -- the opposite can make the math a little easier in some cases, however).

"Distance" in spacetime can be positive (time-like), zero (light-like), or negative (space-like). Wrap your mind around that. Light always follow a null path, the zero "distance" path through spacetime.

Even in flat spacetime, that doesn't make sense to your 3D spatial intuition.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 01:11 AM (Mzdiz)

637 All the other physics goes wonky too. This has to do with the solutions of ellipitical partial differential equations, which are the language the laws of physics are written in.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 01:04 AM (Mzdiz)

As awesomely cool as this is, if I can't make a picture in my head, it doesn't make sense. I'm silly like that. Totally based on images. Most of the them 3D, so to speak. I think that's why I'm an architect and not a mathematician or a physicist. I did math, through diff-eq, and physics, obviously, but they don't speak to me in images. God didn't make my brain that way.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 01, 2021 01:11 AM (SDdx5)

638 My 6th grade class read Flatland.
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Hmm. There's something funny about the angles in this triangle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 01, 2021 01:12 AM (DMQdU)

639 You've all seen those 2D graphics of "gravity" and the space/time warp given to it by a planetary object. blah, blah blah.

Think of gravity as a negative FORCE, but shaped like a bit of pantyhose. Perfectly flat but flat in every possible plane in space. Give it an object though, and think of your local bank robber with is face in pantyhose. Pressing down from EVERY angle. Now, wrap our planet, our solar system in the same unending planes of hoisery. Gravity doesn't pull us down. It PRESSES us down. And now you know why it's so damned important to detect, identify and understand, gravitational waves.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 01, 2021 01:14 AM (QzJWU)

640 Doesn't violate the laws of physics, does violate the limitations of understanding of those outside of the faith. You may now burn me for my heresy.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

No heresy detected. Science and faith are two parts of the Truth. Science is just how we understand it. Faith is more assent to the Truth. If it appears that science and faith do not correspond, it is simply that we do not understand it well enough yet.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 01, 2021 01:16 AM (SDdx5)

641 All the other physics goes wonky too. This has to do with the solutions of ellipitical partial differential equations, which are the language the laws of physics are written in.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion

This gets to why some of the most brilliant scientific minds enjoyed drugs such as LSD and marijuana. They didn't/don't have to think in human language; rather they perceive, understand, and think in abstract concepts and mathematical formulae that are enhanced, not hindered, by these chemicals. "Drugs" is a loaded term. I kind of operate the same way sometimes when I'm stoned on cannabis sativa, and pondering statutes and application of legal concepts to real-world problems. The trick is to take the abstract concept in my head and describe it using precise, and often insufficient, symbols called words strung together in particular order called syntax. But doing that helps me to refine my understanding of what I'm thinking about. If I can't translate an abstract legal concept into intelligible words, I either need to refine the concept or recognize that it's wrong. The "genius" is not in getting it right, per se, it's in acknowledging when it's wrong.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at September 01, 2021 01:17 AM (KAi1n)

642
Now, that (1, 3) spacetime. Rather than being flat, it can be "curved". Now you are with Mr. Einstein and General Relativity. Gravity is the intrinsic curvature of that spacetime. Gravity is geometry.

Via Flatland analogy, imagine taking a 2D surface and curving it. You have to imagine doing that in 3D "flat" space. But you can see how you can do that. Your notion of "distance" on that curved surface via coordinates thereon can be very non-Euclidian.

Now, free you mind. You don't need a larger embedding space to do that, if you "fly on instruments". Just imagine that your "distance formula" (your "metric" in the language of Riemannian geometry and General Relativity) is different from (1, 1, 1) It's the not the square root of the sum of squares, but something different.

And that's an intrinsic property of the geometry. Spacetime can "curve" but needs to nothing larger in which to curve. It just is.

Now, Mr. Einstein figured out that matter(-energy) curves spacetime. And that manifests as gravity.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 01:18 AM (Mzdiz)

643 SF Goth. I get that.

I don't need drugs for that, though. That's what Pink Floyd is for. They took those drugs for me, so that I might listen, and understand. (not really even kidding, I mean a lot of that)


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 01, 2021 01:18 AM (QzJWU)

644 Gravity is a myth. I choose not to follow the laws of gravity.




I wish.... Gravity sucks ass. My balance often remins me.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 01, 2021 01:19 AM (0OmEj)

645 Apparently in Beaufort county.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

Bow-fort vs. Bew-fort

Not Sister Cities neither.

Posted by: Miklos, planning to make some Beaufort Stew at September 01, 2021 01:20 AM (QzkSJ)

646 581 Lincoln was the founder of total war. It has never been repeated as well since.
Posted by: TC at September 01, 2021 12:11 AM (BR6SG)

Nope. Corinth. It STILL doesn't exist.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 01, 2021 01:21 AM (SDdx5)

647 The fall never hurts. The sudden stop at the end does though.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 01, 2021 01:21 AM (0OmEj)

648 Yeah, I still don't understand what dimensions are mathematically. It would actually probably help if I did.

One thing I know though. If Wells Time Traveler had gone backward in time, he would have gone skipping off across the room. And would have been visible at all times as he bounced along. That disappearing stuff is pure nonsense.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 01:21 AM (Ectld)

649
Finally *our laws of physics* only work in a (1, 3) geometry. A spacetime.

Other, totally different physics, based on something we couldn't comprehend or imagine because it's "really different" could perhaps exist in some different configuration of dimensions.

Something really alien. Some LSD trip physics.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 01:21 AM (Mzdiz)

650 "Something really alien. Some LSD trip physics."

Dormammu!

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 01:22 AM (Ectld)

651 Ummm...could I buy some physicist pot from you?

Posted by: My Delta name is Miklos (tri-Delt is Tiffani) at September 01, 2021 01:24 AM (QzkSJ)

652 Managed to roll my ankle tonight huge beautiful swelling and extensive bruising. Im kinda proud. Been years since last one. Fucking hurts though.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 01, 2021 01:25 AM (0OmEj)

653 Okay. So, God is outside of space and time. He is, and He always was, and He always will be. He sees everything that ever happened, that is happening, and that will happen all at once, as it is ever-present to Him.

We, being creatures inside of space and time, cannot begin to comprehend that, but we know it to be true.

Rather like I approach advanced math and physics. I know it to be true, but I cannot imagine it outside of the equations. It reminds me of my limitations as a creature rather than the creator. But all of it is the study of Love which comes from Him.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 01, 2021 01:25 AM (SDdx5)

654 "Fucking hurts though."

Yeah, don't do that.

I can roll my ankle from a standing position. Hurts and it has the added bonus of being embarassing.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 01:26 AM (Ectld)

655 ..Something really alien. Some LSD trip physics.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 01:21 AM (Mzdiz)


God Everywhere, All at Once.

The theologists (not capitalized) had terms for this, but I choose not to reference them, as they've been cheapened by debate over the centuries.

Same God laughs at LSD, as a poor substitute for UNDERSTANDING. I don't yet understand, but am promised that I will, at that time. Which is not here, now, on this earth. I can live with that. I can die with that. I am promised that I'll be gifted with that. And that'll do me, for now. /hasta la nite nite, Horde!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galvedston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 01, 2021 01:27 AM (QzJWU)

656 652 Managed to roll my ankle tonight huge beautiful swelling and extensive bruising. Im kinda proud. Been years since last one. Fucking hurts though.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 01, 2021 01:25 AM (0OmEj)

You know the drill. Ice that bad boy, and stay the hell off it. And don't do that--it hurts.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 01, 2021 01:27 AM (SDdx5)

657 Managed to roll my ankle tonight huge beautiful swelling and extensive bruising. Im kinda proud. Been years since last one. Fucking hurts though.
Posted by: USNtakim

Please tell me you did it kicking a pantyfa

Posted by: Miklos also wants the Inman commentary at September 01, 2021 01:27 AM (QzkSJ)

658 Saw a video explaining 4D looking at 3D...

I wrote a vidgame played on a 4x4x4x4 board. You (and the opposing game pieces) could step in four wraparound dimensions, shooting down or building up walls between squares behind you as you move, creating a kind of maze.

Sure, you could only see one 3D (4x4x4) cubie at a time, displaying four 4x4 planes, but you could "rotate" the cubes in all directions to view the hidden portion.

All this displayed on a 2D Radio Shack Model I screen with 128w x 48h 'pixels'. Written in TRS BASIC, except the "rotation," which took too long so I had to write that part in machine code.

Never did get that sucker translated to PC. Somewhere in the catacombs, it's all preserved on 5" floppies. I used to do stuff like that. In a dream, long ago.

G'night wacky ones.

Posted by: mindful the wizardly webworker at September 01, 2021 01:28 AM (J5T7h)

659 Supreme court supports texas new anti-abortion law. The new dred scott decision has begun.

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at September 01, 2021 01:28 AM (LPw9f)

660 Found the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ruHJFsb4g

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 01:28 AM (Ectld)

661 Its a gift of having faulty brain function. My balance is shot. Trying to recover from a near fall. Boom. Down i went. Happens shit does.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 01, 2021 01:29 AM (0OmEj)

662 "I wrote a vidgame played on a 4x4x4x4 board."

I wanna play.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 01, 2021 01:32 AM (Ectld)

663 >Finally *our laws of physics* only work in a (1, 3) geometry. A spacetime.

Other, totally different physics, based on something we couldn't comprehend or imagine because it's "really different" could perhaps exist in some different configuration of dimensions.

Something really alien. Some LSD trip physics.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 01:21 AM (Mzdiz)

The fine-tuned universe and the various forms of the anthropic principle are enough to keep you up at night, no drugs needed.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 01, 2021 01:33 AM (DXFDM)

664 >> I did math, through diff-eq, and physics, obviously, but they don't speak to me in images.

There is a paper on this stuff that was very good at explainig it. I may have it saved somewhere on the TBs of hard drive space I have scattered here. It will take me a while to find it.

But basically it has to do with the character of solutions to these PDQs. The solutions can be "determinate"/non-ambiguous/make sense when you have 3 spatial, and 1 time dimension. Anything else, and things just don't work "logically" as we think of it.

I'm gonna hunt that paper.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 01:36 AM (Mzdiz)

665 "Okra has spines"

So they aren't Republicans

Posted by: Pikov Andropov (rt0xh) at September 01, 2021 01:37 AM (y7zkd)

666
The universe is a day-dream in the mind of God, as someone put it. That is, God is everywhere. Reality, everywhere, the universe, everything *is* God. The universe, this (1, 3) spacetime is a thought in the mind of God.

When me the fly, I am the wings. That is the meaning of that Emerson line.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 01:39 AM (Mzdiz)

667 I could have sworn there was a quote about how our ability to identify things in our head (give them names) inherently shapes our perception of that world. The more exact the word, the better the perception (or conception.)

Everything is covered in fog. Language clears it away.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 01, 2021 12:15 AM (csEWM)


Not a Feynman quote, but James Mitchener in "Chesapeake" said something like "You cannot build a boat unless you have names for all the parts!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at September 01, 2021 02:05 AM (hOUT3)

668 Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 01, 2021 01:25 AM (SDdx5)

I finally got a handle on that concept and suddenly I understood why the "I AM" was a perfect statement!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lay back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at September 01, 2021 02:06 AM (hOUT3)

669 On Totalen Krieg: One thing that I find interesting to look at in antiquities are the ancient sites, like in Palmyra, Baalbek, and of course Egypt. There are absolutely stupendous masonry works, single blocks of huge statues, columns and things made out of the hardest materials known, like Granite, Andesite etc. Almost as remarkable to me as their construction in the first place, is their de-construction. How do you bust up a 300 ton granite statue or anything? And some of the sites look like a bomb went off.

If you delve into the ancient Vedic stuff (I have not) and similar ancient texts and tales they are full of stories of incredible machines, and there's a sub-chapter of the Conspiracy wackjobs that holds nuclear weapons were detonated in what is now India thousands of years ago. Now I don't necessarily subscribe to any of this, but there are some really interesting artifacts or natural phenomenon - there are probably natural explanations, but "green glass" was pretty much unknown except for two places in 1945 - Alamagordo, and some ancient plain in India.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 01, 2021 02:07 AM (pQrYJ)

670 You know the drill. Ice that bad boy, and stay the hell off it. And don't do that--it hurts.
Posted by: tcn in AK

You're not going to recommend an adult beverage? What are you, a hater?

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at September 01, 2021 02:11 AM (KAi1n)

671 Never mind the physics, just the ability to administrate things is beyond my understanding. See the treatise entitled "I, Pencil" for a good overview.

You undoubtedly have a pencil somewhere, but the ability for a modern society to marshall all the disparate materials and resources necessary to make a simple pencil is off the wall unbelievable. No one person could do it, not even close, and at the same time, no one is really responsible for it, not all of it, and it just kind of happens.

We're seeing some of those "things" that aren't things brrak down. An empty space on a store shelf, where something should be. We don't notice it, till it ain't there.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 01, 2021 02:13 AM (pQrYJ)

672 >> I understood why the "I AM" was a perfect statement!

Yes! "I am who I am", a self-reference, is the only truthful answer God could give when asked, "Who are you?"

God is the absolute infinite. Unnamable and
undescribable in finite terms. Any finite string of words could only describe some "lesser infinity" than the absolute. So, God can only say, "I am who I am".

Godel level shit. The fact that the human mind can conceive of the unconceivable, know the unknowable, is evidence of the infinite divine in all of us.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 02:14 AM (Mzdiz)

673 Slap Cold Iron

Posted by: a dude in MI at September 01, 2021 02:16 AM (+I6Y/)

674
Here is that paper on why only a (1,3)D spacetime works:

https://space.mit.edu/home/
tegmark/dimensions.pdf

Now, how about a (3,1), which is a "tachyons" only universe. Well, all you have to do there is just flip everything around, stand on your head, and realize what you're calling space is really time, and what you're calling time is really space and you're back to a (1,3).

That's really a "this is crazy, so we'll just flip everything". But I think that's how it works.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 02:21 AM (Mzdiz)

675 So, God can only say, "I am who I am".

True. But...

I yam what I yam, and that's all that I yam.

Posted by: Popeye at September 01, 2021 02:33 AM (ju2Fy)

676
That was a letter to the editor (I hope you appreciate how much I have to rack my brain to remember the search terms to get this shit), and here is the actual paper the author, Tegmark, wrote on the subject:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/
9702052.pdf

To summarize. More or less than 1 time dimension means not predictability. "Anything could happen" given the laws of physics and a set of initial conditions.

More than 3 spatial dimensions, and nothing is stable. Atoms couldn't exist. Orbits couldn't exist. Everything would fly apart.

Less than 3 spatial dimensions and everything is "too simple", GR Einstein gravity couldn't exist in a vaccum. EM and the other forces would be too simple. Nothing interesting could happen.

Our laws of physics can only work with 1 time dimension and 3 spatial dimensions.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 02:37 AM (Mzdiz)

677 Yes! "I am who I am", a self-reference, is the only truthful answer God could give when asked, "Who are you?"

God is the absolute infinite. Unnamable and
undescribable in finite terms. Any finite string of words could only describe some "lesser infinity" than the absolute. So, God can only say, "I am who I am".

Godel level shit. The fact that the human mind can conceive of the unconceivable, know the unknowable, is evidence of the infinite divine in all of us.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 02:14 AM (Mzdiz)

I consider that one of the more remarkable things about the Biblical God. He's not a personalization of natural forces, or some mythic archetype aggrandized to the nth degree. He's not like the gods of the Greeks, the Caananites, or the Far East. God is not Human or entirely relatable to the human experience. Even attempting to view Him in all of his glory is mind-shattering if not outright fatal.

Somehow a bunch of primitive herders beat Lovecraft to the punch by thousands of years, but with something benevolent and inscrutable, rather than something alien and malignant. How could they have conceived of it?

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 01, 2021 02:47 AM (xNrL5)

678 Our laws of physics can only work with 1 time dimension and 3 spatial dimensions.
Posted by: publius

The key being "our". They do so because they are 1 time dimension and 3 spatial dimensions. That's not necessarily to say other combos of time and space don't work; they just work with different physics and we can't know that, we can only conjecture.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at September 01, 2021 02:50 AM (KAi1n)

679 Our laws of physics can only work with 1 time dimension and 3 spatial dimensions.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 02:37 AM (Mzdiz)

And if there were such dimensions beyond the ones we know, entities within them could do things to ours that would violate every form of causality that we understand.

Once science goes far enough, you're back to angels, demons, miracles, and God all over again. The more you know, the less you are certain.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 01, 2021 02:51 AM (xNrL5)

680 Up early, folk. I usually have trouble sleeping in a strange place anyway, and I'm none too thrilled with the amenities at the Sonesta where Miss Linda and I wound up. There's no lobby where you can go to sit and read, no breakfast included, and the gym is closed up because of the WooHoo Flu nonsense.

On the good hand, there is a 24-hour Waffle House a few miles away near the closest Exxon station. My main bank has a branch here. My savings bank is part of the Community Cash ATM network, and there's one of their ATMs fairly close. Plus research tells me there is a real pipe smoker's shop in the area.

Once I get set up with FEMA -- I'll apply this morning -- we'll see what's what.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 01, 2021 02:58 AM (quCFJ)

681 When me the fly, I am the wings. That is the meaning of that Emerson line.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021


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Fleming has James Bond remember this and think it is "the most sinister line in all poetry":

"They reckon ill who leave me out,
When me they fly, I am the wings."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 01, 2021 03:01 AM (quCFJ)

682 Dang Wolfie, sounds like the hurricane has found or forced other lodgings on ya. Looks like the electricity will be out for some time down there as well. Louisiana humidity and triple digits. What's not to like? Ugh

Posted by: Common Tater at September 01, 2021 03:03 AM (pQrYJ)

683 Glad to hear you are ok, Wolfus.

Mornin', all

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 01, 2021 03:04 AM (210jg)

684 I wonder what name Adam would have given the platypus?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 01, 2021


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"Get it away from me"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 01, 2021 03:05 AM (quCFJ)

685 I read that the gators are having a grand ol' time roaming parts they wouldn't normally get to.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at September 01, 2021 03:07 AM (KAi1n)

686 >> they just work with different physics and we can't know that, we can only conjecture.

Indeed. Something other than (1,3) is beyond conjecture so to speak. Our minds that exist in (1,3) can't even conceive of something totally different that could exist in (n, m). And vice-versa.

It's like, wow, man. And note we are conceiving the unconceivable. We are imagining something we cannot imagine. That is the spark of the divine in all of us.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 03:08 AM (Mzdiz)

687 Dang Wolfie, sounds like the hurricane has found or forced other lodgings on ya. Looks like the electricity will be out for some time down there as well. Louisiana humidity and triple digits. What's not to like? Ugh
Posted by: Common Tater at September 01, 2021


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Yeah, that's the basic horror, all right. I hated the place even with A/C and basic conveniences. My boss fled to Jackson, MS, and one of my co-workers to Dallas. Don't know yet about the other two. If the power does get back on, we'll still be working mostly remotely, I think.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 01, 2021 03:08 AM (quCFJ)

688 >> He's not like the gods of the Greeks, the Caananites, or the Far East. God is not Human or entirely relatable to the human experience. Even attempting to view Him in all of his glory is mind-shattering if not outright fatal.

Indeed. Those ancient Hebrews hit, with that "I am" something very deep, some Godelian self-referential, absolute infinite, very deep, "Wow, man....!" shit.

It is....the spark of the divine.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 03:11 AM (Mzdiz)

689 Heavy rain here this afternoon, hopefully after I get home

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2021 03:12 AM (znIQ9)

690 >> "They reckon ill who leave me out,
When me they fly, I am the wings."

Yes, indeed. Emerson hit some Godelian level shit, there.

"I am the doubter, and the doubt".

"They know not well the subtle ways
I keep, and pass, and turn again."

Wow, man. IOW, only God, the spark of the divine, can one doubt God. :-) Wow, man.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 03:14 AM (Mzdiz)

691 Raining now actually

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2021 03:18 AM (znIQ9)

692 He's not like the gods of the Greeks, the Caananites, or the Far East. God is not Human or entirely relatable to the human experience. Even attempting to view Him in all of his glory is mind-shattering if not outright fatal. . . .

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021


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I seem to recall reading somewhere the aphorism, "He who looks on the face of God must die." Reminds me of opening the Ark of the Covenant in Raiders.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 01, 2021 03:19 AM (quCFJ)

693 "They reckon ill who leave me out,
When me they fly, I am the wings." . . .

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021


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I read that couplet in Diamonds Are Forever when I was a kid, and many times since. But I still don't know what it means.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 01, 2021 03:21 AM (quCFJ)

694 579 "Can you explain that to me?" Feynman replies, "Yes, I could, but you don't possess the vocabulary to understand."
Posted by: Mike Hammer

That's actually an incredibly powerful statement and general concept that goes way beyond physics, but to the ability to perceive the world around you, understand it, and meaningfully communicate with someone. Think of times when you've had a concept on your mind and you're trying to find the words to explain it to someone. Or if you've ever asked someone what they meant when either they didn't have the vocabulary to explain something or you didn't understand theirs.
Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at September 01, 2021 12:09 AM (KAi1n)

Rising incredibly early in the AM, so catching up to what was posted earlier.

Whenever I read comments like the one above, I think about the evil brilliance of Orwell's Newspeak.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2021 03:36 AM (mdjgu)

695 >> But I still don't know what it means.

Yes, you do. The not knowing is the knowing. If you did not know, you could not not know. That is the meaning of they reckon ill who leave me out, when me they fly, I am the wings.

ROFL. No, I'm not smoking anything. That's Godelian. Godel was bat-shit crazy, BTW. But he knew what he was talking about.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 03:36 AM (Mzdiz)

696 Lots of flowery words sound good but mean nothing.

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2021 03:37 AM (znIQ9)

697 But I still don't know what it means.

Yes, you do. The not knowing is the knowing. If you did not know, you could not not know. That is the meaning of they reckon ill who leave me out, when me they fly, I am the wings.

ROFL. No, I'm not smoking anything. That's Godelian. Godel was bat-shit crazy, BTW. But he knew what he was talking about.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021


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I -- . . . what?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 01, 2021 03:40 AM (quCFJ)

698 https://tinyurl.com/2hsu3vky
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Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2021 03:49 AM (znIQ9)

699 The first line makes sense
The second doesn't

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2021 03:50 AM (znIQ9)

700 Whenever I read comments like the one above, I think about the evil brilliance of Orwell's Newspeak.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2021 03:36 AM (mdjgu)

It's the malignity of the public school system, too. By perverting the meaning of words and changing history as taught, and making the education process as stifling and uncomfortable as possible, they have created vast swathes of the public that either cannot read, or do not want to. They have created people who don't know true history, and have no desire to correct the misconceptions they were taught.

They have abolished knowledge, curiosity, and free expression all at once.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 01, 2021 03:51 AM (xNrL5)

701 Context - comparison to a fixed point (physical or just reference) is how you understand something in the larger sense.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 01, 2021 03:54 AM (KAi1n)

702 >> I -- . . . what?

Rofl. You are made in the image of God. That's what it ultimately means. You are a self-ware being. Self-awareness if a property of the infinite.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 03:56 AM (Mzdiz)

703 "Melts in your brain, man, not in your hands."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 01, 2021 03:56 AM (quCFJ)

704 Yes, you do. The not knowing is the knowing. If you did not know, you could not not know. That is the meaning of they reckon ill who leave me out, when me they fly, I am the wings.

ROFL. No, I'm not smoking anything. That's Godelian. Godel was bat-shit crazy, BTW. But he knew what he was talking about.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021

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I -- . . . what?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 01, 2021 03:40 AM (quCFJ)

It's an exceptionally arty, somewhat inverted use of the language. "Fly" as in flee. Basically "If they flee my presence, I am the wings." It's clever. God gave us reason and free will. Using those gifts to try to escape from God is futile.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 01, 2021 04:01 AM (xNrL5)

705 >> God gave us reason and free will. Using those gifts to try to escape from God is futile.

Exactly. Only a creature created by God could deny God. God is what gives you the power to deny God. If there was no God, then there would be nothing. No self-awareness, no consciousness. Nothing.

The reason you can deny the existence of God, is because God exists. If there was not God, conscious thought, self-awareness would not exist.

They reckon ill who leave me out, when me thy fly, I am the wings, is Emerson's way of expressing that concept. It's "Godelian" and self-referential. Deep shit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 01, 2021 04:16 AM (Mzdiz)

706 PIXY IS UP

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at September 01, 2021 04:17 AM (znIQ9)

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