Delta vs. the Delta Response

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This week, I have been thinking about our government's frenetic, irrational response to the "Delta Variant". The narrative changes moment to moment. I can't keep up.

Somewhat coincidentally, I have been thinking a little about the current state of Delta Airlines, which is apparently not the airline it used to be.

Back in 2017, I mentioned a book I had read years before in a post. This book changed my understanding of how the world worked. It was written in 1989, with a paperback edition coming out in 1990. The first subtitle is "Corporate Life Cycle Strategies". But it is applicable to organizations other than corporations, up to the size of civilizations. The model in this book describes six general stages in the life cycle of a typical organization, with the different strategies required from (successful) leadership at each stage:

1. The Prophetic Age

2. The Barbarian Age

3. The Building and Exploring Age

4. The Administrative Age

5. The Bureaucratic Age

6. The Aristocratic Age

Here's what I wrote in 2017:

Years ago, I read a book called Barbarians to Bureaucrats about the rise and fall of corporations. Parallels were drawn to the rise and fall of civilizations throughout history. At the end of the typical corporate life cycle, the corporate leadership was described as proceeding from a corrupt bureaucratic stage to an insanity-tinged aristocratic stage. Fiscally irrational behavior and extravagant monument-building are common features of the aristocratic stage.

When I first read the book, I was working for a corporation, but also dealing with a corrupt State agency. I kind of wished that the author had written a similar book about government entities. It occurred to me that infusions of tax money kept the corrupt bureaucratic apparatus, and sometimes some aristocratic insanity, going far longer than would be possible in a market-driven organization. So creative destruction is delayed as the mess gets bigger and bigger.

I think that this kind of corruption in our bureaucracies is one part of the ridiculous response we are currently seeing to the "Delta Variant".

The subject of the 2017 post was high-speed rail in California, a project which continues on its irrational and destructive path, while crises in water supplies continue to be largely ignored, especially by State Government (though water restrictions are imposed).

The State of California seems to have pretty much graduated from a corrupt bureaucracy to the insane aristocratic stage. . .

In summary, officials continue pushing projects like the Transbay Transit Center bus station along with a bullet train from Shafter to Merced even though they have just evacuated roughly 200,000 people because they neglected warnings about the condition of a dam. Additional water storage (like back-up dams) could have avoided current emergency actions around the state to prevent disasters due to spring runoff. Do they think the drought year/flood year cycle is going to end in California? Why isn't water management a higher priority than managing the movement of people?

But at least now Gavin Newsom is facing a recall election. Even if he were recalled, California would be left with a giant mess. But there is at least a mechanism for some kind of change.

What is the equivalent in our federal bureaucracies?

In corporations, when the insane aristocratic stage is reached, the organization often becomes a target for takeover by a "barbarian", as when Victor Kiam took over Remington.

The "Barbarian" in this book's model generally follows a mission laid out by a "Prophet". Sometimes these roles overlap. Often, the barbarian is not a real nice guy.

It is ridiculous to call this an industry. This is rat eat rat.
Dog eat dog. I'll kill 'em and I'm going to kill 'em before they kill me.
You're talking about the American way of survival of the fittest.

---Ray Kroc, builder of the MacDonalds Empire, 1973

In the book, examples of civilizations which had become susceptible to the invasion of barbarians were unsettling.

I was reminded of this book again by a post at Powerline by Scott Johnson entitled My Day with Delta.

I feel about Delta Air Lines approximately the way I feel about the Delta variant. It's far from the worst thing on earth, but life would be better without it.

This is just a small snippet from the terrible experience Mr. Johnson endured on that day:

It is not possible to reach Delta through its so-called "customer service" number. I tried on Saturday and again on Sunday. On Sunday I was advised by Delta's automated system that there would be a 7-and-a-half hour wait. Now that's what I call customer service.

Remarkably, Delta was one of the corporations called out as good examples of avoiding the decline into corrupt bureaucracy, then insane aristocracy in Barbarians to Bureaucrats back in 1989. Management was described as having avoided unionization of their work force with the "Delta Family Feeling". The work force actually bought a plane for the corporation.

On teamwork or synergy at Delta:

The culture at Delta Airlines is the result neither of any short-term effort nor any specific program. It is the result of consistent management practices, beliefs, and behavior, from top to bottom.

Again, from 1989:

In days past, property, capital, or technology were significant elements of competitive advantage. But today all of those factors are easily transferred from one organization to another, hence lessening the advantage.
The culture, the habits of the people, are not so easily transferred, however.
The culture of Honda, IBM, or Delta is not easily created in either a young emerging company or an old declining company. That in large part is what gives these companies their competitive edge.

So, what happened to Delta Airlines? Scott Johnson got a personal response, but not before Ann Coulter chimed in with a creative suggestion:

Couldn't some hedge fund guy buy Delta Airlines, chop it up and sell it for parts? #DeltaSucks

In other words, she is suggesting that Delta Airlines is ripe for the Invasion of a Barbarian.

Back to the Delta Variant: We are mired in a crises caused, in part, by a myriad of government bureaucracies with overlapping responsibilities - the CDC, NIH, FDA, WHO just to name a few. I would like to focus on just one, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the NIH, the organization headed up by Anthony Fauci.

This organization has been falling short in its mission for decades. Anthony Fauci has been there WAY too long. Where is the mechanism which allows for a barbarian to come in, chop it up and sell it for parts? Who needs an organization which lies in order to fund gain-of-function studies in bat viruses?

Scott Johnson continues with his Delta Airlines Experience:

Having shared a few of my complaints about Delta, I feel obligated to post the very personal email message I received from Delta CEO Ed Bastian last night. Bastian's message is actually part of an email blast to members of Delta's Sky Miles program. (Not knowing I had received my own, a friend forwarded a blank copy.)

The message comes with the subject line We Know You Expect More - We're Taking Action: Your Update from Ed. And here I didn't even know I was on a first-name basis with the Delta CEO. I wanted to respond to Ed, but the return address is Marketing Email Reply Inbox. As far as I am concerned, Marketing can call me Mr. Johnson.

In substance, Bastian's message coincidentally confirms my complaints (other than my specific billing issues). One readily infers from Bastian's message what a miserable experience Delta has on offer for its customers like me. Maybe Delta should apologize to its customers and abandon the great awokening while it sets its own house in order.

They're still talking about the Delta Family at Delta, apparently.

How personal a response do you think you would get if you wrote a complaint to the NIAID?

This organization still does revere a "prophet", in memory, if not in always in deed:

The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases traces its origins to a small laboratory established in 1887 at the Marine Hospital on Staten Island, New York.

In the 1880s, boatloads of immigrants were heading towards America, some of them unknowingly bringing with them cholera and other infectious diseases. No one knew what caused most of these diseases, and physicians relied on clinical signs alone to determine whether someone might be carrying an infectious agent.

During this time, Dr. Joseph J. Kinyoun, a young medical officer with the Marine Hospital Service, was learning about the new science of bacteriology. Dr. Kinyoun set up one of the first bacteriologic laboratories in the United States. Using his microscope and newly acquired medical research techniques, Dr. Kinyoun was able to isolate the cholera organism from an arriving passenger in New York. For the first time, American physicians could actually see the organisms causing the disease.

That was in 1887. Time for a barbarian? Now this organization blocks people from learning about their early treatment options if they are infected with COVID.

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This sort of thing can happen when there is a mismatch between your strategies and the stage your organization is in:

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Hope you have a great weekend.

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1 Delta is so last Thursday

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 31, 2021 10:17 AM (MgzvS)

2 What it is.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 31, 2021 10:17 AM (vuisn)

3 Wondering what CDC craziness tomorrow will bring. Today, though, we party like its 1999.

Posted by: Prince at July 31, 2021 10:18 AM (MgzvS)

4 A friend of mine worked at Delta corporate for awhile.

She said it was like a cult, especially with the middle-aged women.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 31, 2021 10:18 AM (vuisn)

5 I predict Scarlett Johansson suddenly discovers shorter hemlines and some cleavage are artistic plusses for movie stars.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 31, 2021 10:20 AM (MgzvS)

6 Ben Wakana, Bidete's COVID-19 rapid responder, goes ballistic on NYT and WaPo for telling the troof:

https://tinyurl.com/f7b8ze29

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 10:20 AM (DJFLF)

7 "MUH DEPLORABLES are fueling the pandemic!!!"

what - Brooklyn and the Bronx have the lowest vaxx rates of the boroughs?

Never mind.

https://tinyurl.com/8mybh6jp

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 10:23 AM (DJFLF)

8 One thing that always rang true in "Foundation" was Asimov's claim that stratification and bureaucracy was inevitable in society, leading finally to tyranny as the administrative state consumed itself in ridiculous rules.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 31, 2021 10:25 AM (MgzvS)

9 I think that a big part of Delta's problem is that they were the first in line for any flights booked by the Fed Govt for as long as I can remember. May still be.

Any company who gets that close to the Feds for that long is pretty much fucked.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2021 10:26 AM (gbfHZ)

10 Morning.

Made the amateur mistake of reading the content.

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 10:28 AM (MxVZG)

11 Tuba Skinny!

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at July 31, 2021 10:29 AM (AiZBA)

12 One thing that always rang true in "Foundation" was Asimov's claim that stratification and bureaucracy was inevitable in society, leading finally to tyranny as the administrative state consumed itself in ridiculous rules.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Trump is the MULE

Posted by: Jean at July 31, 2021 10:29 AM (L6VX6)

13 1 Delta is so last Thursday
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 31, 2021 10:17 AM (MgzvS)


I saw a screencap of a WHO document that listed every letter of the Greek alphabet, with a corresponding date. They had it going until early 2023.

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 10:29 AM (DJFLF)

14 Will get to content shortly

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 10:30 AM (Cxk7w)

15 Delta is a bus service with wings.

They should change their name to Ghetto Airlines.

Posted by: Pan American Airways at July 31, 2021 10:31 AM (R/m4+)

16 Delta variant is the "Alar in our apples" of 2021.

I saw some comment by a bureaucrat recently that said "as we move into this phase of the pandemic," I thought it was an accidental telling of truth.

This phase.

Almost as if the whole thing was planned.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 10:31 AM (5ieoM)

17 I've avoided Delta for more than a decade. While in my experience all domestic airlines suck in some degree, Delta was the consistent absolute worst.

The contrast between American carriers and the big Asian ones should humble Delta and AA. I'm treated like a king on Korean by a team of young, enthusiastic flight attendants that look like they all stepped off the pages of a fashion magazine (and not Vogue).

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 31, 2021 10:31 AM (VxC1e)

18 I think that a big part of Delta's problem is that they were the first in line for any flights booked by the Fed Govt for as long as I can remember. May still be.

Not exactly, they bid thru travel agencies (Sato was one). Gov travel orders are to go to us flag airlines, unless unavailable.

Posted by: Jean at July 31, 2021 10:32 AM (L6VX6)

19 I saw a screencap of a WHO document that listed every letter of the Greek alphabet, with a corresponding date. They had it going until early 2023.
Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 10:29 AM (DJFLF)

That's why I say wake me up when we get to Omega.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 10:32 AM (5ieoM)

20 Anyway, so we've all heard about the Anacyclosis, the Cycle of regimes, yes?

Monarchy to Tyranny.
Tyranny to Aristocracy.
Aristocracy you Oligarchy.
Oligarchy to Democracy,
Democracy to Ochlocracy.
Ochlocracy back to Monarchy.

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 10:33 AM (MxVZG)

21 They should change their name to Ghetto Airlines.
Posted by: Pan American Airways

You haven't flown Arik Air recently

Posted by: Jean at July 31, 2021 10:34 AM (L6VX6)

22 Airlines shmairlines

Posted by: vmom sic semper stabbicus at July 31, 2021 10:34 AM (oEn12)

23 Ben Wakana, Bidete's COVID-19 rapid responder, goes ballistic on NYT and WaPo for telling the troof:

https://tinyurl.com/f7b8ze29
Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 10:20 AM (DJFLF)

Go back to Wakana, you jungle bunny.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 10:35 AM (5ieoM)

24 Great post KT, thank you. Lots of meat on the bone.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 10:35 AM (49Exr)

25 Would it be possible to buy a retired fighter aircraft to perform Mach 1 air taxi services across the country?

Just disable the missiles. Just keep them for, uh...show.

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 10:36 AM (MxVZG)

26 That's why I say wake me up when we get to Omega.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 10:32 AM (5ieoM)

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After omega they'll start with naming the mutations after genders, and there are 57 of those.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 31, 2021 10:36 AM (VxC1e)

27 Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 10:35 AM

Thanks.

Posted by: KT at July 31, 2021 10:37 AM (BVQ+1)

28 My wife retired last summer after 40 years as a Delta F/A.
She walked away with a pension, a fat severance package, and gobs of money to be used by both of us for medical expenses.

The more senior Delta F/A's loved their jobs, which had evolved over time from being on-call, to multiple domestic legs per day, to cushy 3-day layovers at international hotspots.

In her case she knew London, Paris, Amsterdam and (especially) Venice inside and out. Occasional trips to Cairo, Amman, Prague, Athens, Warsaw, Budapest, Kiev and the like added variety.

Delta F/As knew almost nothing of the Atlanta corporate culture. Attempts to organize them failed miserably. I'd hate to have seen what a union could have done to them.

Ed Bastian seems like a woke weenie. The wife's glad she got away when she did.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at July 31, 2021 10:37 AM (fPFtn)

29 Tangentially related, does anybody lose hope in humanity when going to a different message board (me it's college football and baseball for recruiting and preseason stuff) and a topic comes up like this or anything political?
I fluctuate between rage and laughter and depression.

But to be fair, the OT board at Tigerdroppings is funny, politically incorrect, and has been based since forever.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 31, 2021 10:38 AM (X998k)

30 "some farcical aquatic ceremony"

LOL. I'd forgotten how funny comedy was before PCBS

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 10:40 AM (49Exr)

31 All the airlines suck. Southwest used to suck the least; don't know about now.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 31, 2021 10:40 AM (VCAwn)

32 That's why I say wake me up when we get to Omega.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 10:32 AM (5ieoM)

After omega they'll start with naming the mutations after genders, and there are 57 of those.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 31, 2021 10:36 AM (VxC1e)

Shoot. I was hoping SMOD or the Yellowstone Caldera would have put us all out of our misery by then.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 10:40 AM (5ieoM)

33 We can console ourselves with the knowledge that a ZULU variant is racist and therefore the number of variants is limited to 25.

Posted by: Thud Muffle at July 31, 2021 10:41 AM (QZnfZ)

34 31 All the airlines suck. Southwest used to suck the least; don't know about now.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 31, 2021 10:40 AM (VCAwn)

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Southwest has committed heavily to the 737MAX so now if your flight sucks, it may not suck for long.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 31, 2021 10:41 AM (VxC1e)

35 I'm not a believer in the cyclic rise and fall of great civilizations, for a simple reason. The guy preaching never realizes that the theory is completely deterministic -- there's no exit, no way to interrupt the cycle. They're telling you that you're somehow failing your culture, but showing exactly what will happen next no matter what. Hell of a motivator. God damned fools.

Now, when it comes to showing the ways that "businesses" want to be dynasties or empires, and do it by copying secret medieval religious guilds or ancient mystic cults or the SS, why, that's another story.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 31, 2021 10:42 AM (zMFmR)

36 Thanks.
Posted by: KT at July 31, 2021 10:37 AM (BVQ+1)

Going to grab Barbarians to Bureaucrats. Learning how all these "kingdoms" rise and fall throughout history is fun.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 10:43 AM (49Exr)

37 The CDC report on the Barnstable County delta-COVID outbreak earlier this month led me to do some research. It turns out there were nationally-advertised sodomy festivals held there during that period. The report said that they were promoted to "adult males" and that "thousands" of people came from around the USA to participate.

So the cause of that particular outbreak was vacation sex orgies. It was not, (I hope,) a "typical" outbreak. I'm sure there were other diseases "super-spread" there besides COVID.

Posted by: gp's Bureau Of Joy at July 31, 2021 10:44 AM (qpX6U)

38 Airlines shmairlines
Posted by: vmom sic semper stabbicus at July 31, 2021 10:34 AM (oEn12)

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That's what we say!

Posted by: Go Greyhound at July 31, 2021 10:45 AM (VxC1e)

39 "They're telling you that you're somehow failing your culture, but showing exactly what will happen next no matter what. Hell of a motivator"

You do learn to that you need to adapt. If it wasn't for Ace, I would still be pressuring the GOP to man up, not realizing that I was the Mark all along.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 10:45 AM (49Exr)

40 I don't think cycles of regimes or bureaucracies are necessarily deterministic as such so much as it's an observation that more often than not people in large organizations make the same mistakes over and over.

On the other hand everything *does* move towards entropy. Doom is always the end result.

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 10:46 AM (MxVZG)

41 *glances in*
*wanders off*

Posted by: SMH at July 31, 2021 10:47 AM (+tqLU)

42 You do learn to that you need to adapt. If it wasn't for Ace, I would still be pressuring the GOP to man up, not realizing that I was the Mark all along.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 10:45 AM (49Exr)

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Posted by: The Republican National Committee at July 31, 2021 10:48 AM (VxC1e)

43 Wasn't maybe but a few months ago read a article about take overs, mostly the dog eating the dog isn't for use of mankind or to create a new better company, it's a dog eating the dog until it's gone then looking for the next dog for supper.

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 10:48 AM (Cxk7w)

44 Was wondering where everyone went.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at July 31, 2021 10:48 AM (R5lpX)

45 My popovers didn't pop. Wonder if banging the pan around on the stove top making my summer berry concoction caused them not to rise.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at July 31, 2021 10:49 AM (R5lpX)

46 Lucky for me my last plane ride was pre 9/11, shame I love flying.

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 10:49 AM (Cxk7w)

47 My popovers didn't pop.

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Bob Dole can help you out with that.

Posted by: Bob Dole at July 31, 2021 10:50 AM (VxC1e)

48 *glances in*
*wanders off*
Posted by: SMH at July 31, 2021 10:47 AM (+tqLU)

*Lasso*
*Drags you back in*

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 10:51 AM (MxVZG)

49 There are many problems with the CDC Barnstable study. One is willfully blindness. It never mentions Provincetown Cape Cod as the epicenter and the gay orgies going on. Calling it Barnstable County makes it sound suburban white bread. This is intentional. Shades of ignoring AIDS transmission

Making national policy from a single study with "issues" is another.

But do follow the science

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 31, 2021 10:53 AM (QJ9qw)

50 Doom is always the end result.
Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 10



Which reminds me, I miss Monty.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2021 10:55 AM (gbfHZ)

51 I know some folks here don't like Ed Driscoll but he links to Roger Simon dropping some truth.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/464903

Fuck Twitter. Fuck (anti)social media. Get off. Stay off. It's a fucking children's toy. Let's not be children.

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 10:55 AM (MxVZG)

52 This is intentional. Shades of ignoring AIDS transmission

Making national policy from a single study with "issues" is another.

But do follow the science
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 31, 2021 10:53 AM (QJ9qw)

For years the CDC was touting the "HIV is becoming as transmissible to heteros as it is to homos" lie. Then a researcher went back and interviewed people who participated in health department "studies" in NYC. Found that about 2/3 of those who claimed to have gotten it from hetero sex admitted upon interview they'd been sharing needles or doing the butte secks.

I would venture, nearly all the 1/3 of the rest were just better liars.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 10:56 AM (5ieoM)

53 Well, they taste like popovers are supposed to taste and the strawberry and blackberry compote is good.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at July 31, 2021 10:57 AM (R5lpX)

54 I am taking full blame for the state of our country and the world right now. I should have kept my early retirement secret from the fate gods. Besides dealing with all of this mess I am also dealing with life's other regular problems of an aging parent.

I have to keep telling myself to suck it up and no whining.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 31, 2021 10:58 AM (2DOZq)

55 "Fuck Twitter. Fuck (anti)social media. Get off."

Twitter is where Ace gets 75% of the seed material for his posts. It's the primary source of the red meat we love to chew and bitch about. We'll never quit Twitter.

Posted by: gp's Bureau Of Joy at July 31, 2021 10:58 AM (qpX6U)

56 Surgeon Destoys Myth: If Masks Don't Work, Why do Surgeons Wear Them? CNSNews link:

https://tinyurl.com/4m3mxe92

"If a surgeon were sick, especially with a viral infection, they would not perform surgery as they know the virus would NOT be stopped by their surgical mask."

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 31, 2021 10:59 AM (OssQ4)

57 The difference between commercial bureaucracies and government ones is the source of its power...money. Even the aristocratic stage company must show a profit. Not so a government one. It gets its budget and MUST spend it each FY. Hence they live far longer than their commercial cousins. They only change when the corruption and inefficiency is so bad that it cannot be ignored. And even then change will be.given a positive spin because government can never ever be seen as making a mistake.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 31, 2021 10:59 AM (axyOa)

58 I just watched the 5 minute Love Boat compilation from the sidebar.Noticed that the women who were actual stars wore one-pieces, not bikinis.

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 10:59 AM (DJFLF)

59 Tucker Carlson described Lloyd Austin as a "neurotic cat lady". C'mon Lloyd, you're posing as a tough guy these days, are you going to stand for that?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 31, 2021 10:59 AM (uqMQz)

60 I need to read this book. I'm gonna buy this book. Thanks, KT.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 31, 2021 11:01 AM (JN3xP)

61 Fuck Twitter. Fuck (anti)social media. Get off. Stay off. It's a fucking children's toy. Let's not be children.

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 10:55 AM (MxVZG)

I used to have an account but dropped it. However I still follow some tweeters because they post news, studies, information from near and far that Corp Media is suppressing or outright banning.

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 11:01 AM (DJFLF)

62 Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 10:46 AM (MxVZ

Everything in the universe is cyclical. It's the time frame which varies.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 31, 2021 11:01 AM (2DOZq)

63 (Reading AoS while munching on a Primanti's sandwich and drinking IC Light)

Afternoon....

Posted by: Puddleglum on Amish golf vacation at July 31, 2021 11:01 AM (a5nVj)

64 "If a surgeon were sick, especially with a viral infection, they would not perform surgery as they know the virus would NOT be stopped by their surgical mask."
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 31, 2021 10:59 AM (OssQ4)

Nice. The mask argument is roughly the same thing as saying "if hard hats didn't prevent construction workers from dying if they have a ton of bricks fall on their heads, then why do they wear hard hats?"

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:01 AM (5ieoM)

65 91) I mentioned in a thread yesterday that Jackson's election in 1824 broke the then uniparty. This sort of electioneering cartel ends when one part decides to cheat on the others and get ahead. In a way the bureaucratic interests joined into a cartel to avoid competition, and guarantee income without having to fight for it (escape from the barbarian and building era as you put out, KT) This allows reduced quality and reduced response to the electorate's needs at higher consumer costs, which is the opposite of how free markets work. In the end, the failure to fulfill the principal goals make it ineffective, slow to adapt, and require it to rely on force and exclusion of competitors to maintain "market dominance"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:01 AM (qaiJN)

66 (2)

As with other cartels (banking, railroads, steel) is always true that
the members, being unable to enforce compliance with the agreement, have
to let it break up or find a third party with greater force to enforce
compliance.
With steel, banking and railroads they found the government a wonderful way to enforce it.
Surprisingly
American railroads and American steel is worth very little any more
since once a cartelization has been achieved all need to improve has
disappeared. No idea if banking will collapse or not, it owns everything
now it seems.


Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:02 AM (qaiJN)

67 In the insane aristocratic stage, I think there comes a point where the conflict between their insanity and reality bubbles to the surface. Take transgenders for example. Try as hard as they may, at the end of the day, when the lights go down, and they are alone with their thoughts, they have to know that they are merely playing dress up. Take hormones? Still just dress up. Have mutilating surgery? Still just cosplay. Scream at the top of their lungs, "I am woman, hear me roar!"? Still just a mangled wreck of a man. And deep down they know it.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 31, 2021 11:02 AM (Xwt96)

68 (3)

There have been claims that the current COVID
overreaction has to do with projected collapse of fiat currency regimes
world wide, and the power grab of the economy is to stave off loss of
position, power and possibly support for heels that might wind up being
dangled in the wind, metaphorically.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:02 AM (qaiJN)

69 (4) JEEZ LOUISE, Pixie!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:02 AM (qaiJN)

70 "If Masks Don't Work, Why do Surgeons Wear Them?"

Presumably, the surgeon wears the mask only once, and does not touch it or his face during surgery. Average masked guy on the street uses same mask for days, handles it and touches his face often. It's apples and oranges.

Posted by: gp's Bureau Of Joy at July 31, 2021 11:02 AM (qpX6U)

71 I think the mystery is solved. I didn't warm the milk up to room temperature before mixing in the batter.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at July 31, 2021 11:03 AM (R5lpX)

72 Yudhishthira's Dice at July 31, 2021 11:01 AM

Just be aware that sometimes the book is better at diagnosis than cures.

Posted by: KT at July 31, 2021 11:05 AM (BVQ+1)

73 For example, where else but on the tw@tter will you see Andy Tifa getting clocked? Certainly not on Corporate Media, who parrots the Bidete line that @ntifa is just an "idea":

https://tinyurl.com/527t6z4z

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 11:05 AM (DJFLF)

74 Muldoon, I agree with you fully.

I get to quote Ayn Rand: "we can ignore reality, what we cannot ignore is the consequences of ignoring reality"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:05 AM (qaiJN)

75 And even then change will be.given a positive spin because government can never ever be seen as making a mistake.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 31, 2021 10:59 AM (axyOa)

Government bureaucracies always talk about money. Way more than private enterprises do. They talk about it, like it's a mantra or a joke or both.

And everyone knows it's all phony money. If you can print more, it's not real. If you are a state, and you can go to the voters, hat in hand saying "we need more money" and they'll give it to you, you have to go back to the office and just laugh your arses off at how gullible people are.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:05 AM (5ieoM)

76 There's another book, a similar book, that I wanna read, too. About the stages of Empires. The summary I read of it sounded very spot-on. Been on my list and I haven't gotten to it, and now I can't grab onto the title or author

It's maybe 75 or 100 years old. It was a written by a Brit officer, with one of those silly sounding names limey toffs always seem to have. Ring any bells for anyone?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 31, 2021 11:06 AM (JN3xP)

77 Great post, K.T. Thank you for the book reference.

I thought Trump was the barbarian. That was my hope. But he was too civilized and soft-hearted. Too bad.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 31, 2021 11:07 AM (6QBzo)

78 "it's all phony money. If you can print more, it's not real."

It's real as long as everybody believes it's real. It's real until it's not.

Posted by: gp's Bureau Of Joy at July 31, 2021 11:07 AM (qpX6U)

79 B2B < BNB

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 31, 2021 11:07 AM (WmGrA)

80 KT, I looked at my purchase history; it appears that you were the influence for me reading that book. Same conclusions reached.

I might add: Most of world history is the 99% building monuments to the 1%.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 31, 2021 11:08 AM (yrtPJ)

81 Just be aware that sometimes the book is better at diagnosis than cures.
Posted by: KT at July 31, 2021 11:05

Preventative medicine. I can't fix America, nobody can, but I can at least be aware in my own business life and career when I see problems.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 31, 2021 11:09 AM (JN3xP)

82 Scream at the top of their lungs, "I am woman, hear me roar!"? Still just a mangled wreck of a man. And deep down they know it.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 31, 2021 11:02 AM (Xwt96)

AKA, Axis II personality disorders.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:09 AM (5ieoM)

83 Twitter *is* corporate media.

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 11:10 AM (MxVZG)

84 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 31, 2021 10:31 AM (VxC1e)

I was so glad we paid extra, and not a lot extra really, to use Korean Air on our Mongolia trip. Other choice was a US line, don't remember which, with a layover in Detroit (which is notorious for its delays and general stupidity).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 31, 2021 11:10 AM (1lKRm)

85 "it's all phony money. If you can print more, it's not real."
-------
It's real as long as everybody believes it's real. It's real until it's not.
Posted by: gp's Bureau Of Joy at July 31, 2021 11:07 AM (qpX6U)

Or to put it another way, it's not real.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:10 AM (5ieoM)

86 Why was I not consulted on the content??

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:10 AM (7Fj9P)

87 LMAO at this thead!

(Mary K. Anstruther, PhD (she/her)
@AnstrutherMary EMA University professor. Weighing a run for political office. I may be white, but I'm-making it right. I stand with the oppressed. #Blacktivist #BLM

https://mobile.twitter.com/AnstrutherMary/
status/1421426573505437696

I want to get the black community fully vaccinated.
It's time for @KFC, @Popeyesband @ChurchsChicken to step up to the plate and offer pop-up vaccine clinics at their restaurants.
Assign a trusted employee to administer them.
We need to get this virus back under control! (1/)

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 31, 2021 11:12 AM (KjVA8)

88 Tangentially related, does anybody lose hope in humanity when going to a different message board?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe

Yes. You should see videogame and tech websites' comment sections. They all make Twitter look like a right wing safe space by comparison. Insane, programmed NPC bots.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 31, 2021 11:12 AM (OssQ4)

89
we could all go down to some homeless hot spots in CA and watch them fight sometime

could be fun

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 31, 2021 11:12 AM (bTQ72)

90 "I want to get the black community fully vaccinated.
It's time for @KFC, @Popeyesband @ChurchsChicken to step up to the plate and offer pop-up vaccine clinics at their restaurants."

Ooooh. She gonna get fried.

Posted by: f'd at July 31, 2021 11:14 AM (Tnijr)

91 "Or to put it another way, it's not real."

Well, give all your money to me then. I do take your point about the hazard of insane reckless money printing, but for now, we treat the money as real in every practical sense of the word "real."

How this situation has endured so long without collapsing is a mystery to me.

Posted by: gp's Bureau Of Joy at July 31, 2021 11:14 AM (qpX6U)

92 Those 8 cycles sound similar to The Fourth Turning.

My new iron skillet was waiting by the door when I got home from work. It was so hot outside that I had to use a mitt to get it out of the box.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 31, 2021 11:14 AM (ybIRR)

93 I just watched the 5 minute Love Boat compilation from the sidebar.Noticed that the women who were actual stars wore one-pieces, not bikinis.
Posted by: kallisto

Oh. Ummm.....yeah , I noticed that too !

Posted by: JT at July 31, 2021 11:14 AM (arJlL)

94 we could all go down to some homeless hot spots in CA and watch them fight sometime

could be fun
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 31, 2021 11:12 AM (bTQ72)

Musical interlude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sMC3qugQPM

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:14 AM (5ieoM)

95 Hiya KT !

Posted by: JT at July 31, 2021 11:14 AM (arJlL)

96 another @ntifart eats pavement:

https://tinyurl.com/3fr6nmf8

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 11:14 AM (DJFLF)

97 Shit, if KFC offered free buckets of chicken to get vaxx'd I'd be going every day.

Day one: me as I am.
Day two: me in Groucho Marx glasses
Day three: me in a sombrero.
Day four: me in a turban.

I'd be so vaxx'd I'd immunize others just by looking at them.

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 11:15 AM (MxVZG)

98 This thread us giving me a Delta Dawn earworm !

Posted by: JT at July 31, 2021 11:16 AM (arJlL)

99 It's time for @KFC, @Popeyesband @ChurchsChicken to step up to the plate and...
...the watermelon patch, the Cadillac dealership, the barbershop and Nike store.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:16 AM (7Fj9P)

100 83 Twitter *is* corporate media.
Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 11:10 AM (MxVZG)


fine. It still hosts news you won't get anywhere else.

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 11:16 AM (DJFLF)

101
That's why I say wake me up when we get to Omega.
Posted by: BurtTC


That's when we get E Plebnista.

Posted by: Cloud William at July 31, 2021 11:17 AM (63Dwl)

102 clip
Biden and Pelosi blame Republicans for fueling spread of COVID but fewer than half of young people and 36% of black people have had shots while 92% of older Americans are jabbed



this talk of the unvax'd is dangerous for the Ds

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 31, 2021 11:17 AM (bTQ72)

103 I think that a big part of Delta's problem is that they were the first in line for any flights booked by the Fed Govt for as long as I can remember. May still be.

While doing things for the former United States in the Middle East, Air Emirates was better than Delta in every way, but had to fly Delta and some other horrible regional airline for the legs into Kabul.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 31, 2021 11:18 AM (yrtPJ)

104 How this situation has endured so long without collapsing is a mystery to me.
Posted by: gp's Bureau Of Joy at July 31, 2021 11:14 AM (qpX6U)

Being the undisputed military might on the planet, and demonstrating to everyone you're willing to use it gives the rest of the world the impression your money is real.

Unless you're China. Then you play the long game, and when it's time to come calling, telling the Federal Reserve "your money is no longer any good, and the rent is due," the collapse will happen REAL fast.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:18 AM (5ieoM)

105 Assign a trusted employee to administer them.
We need to get this virus back under control! (1/)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 31, 2021 11:12 AM (KjVA


The Popeye's in my AO is run by desi and frequented mainly by yt.

How will the workers balance the distribution of the red beans and rice v mRna jab?

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 11:18 AM (DJFLF)

106 is

Posted by: JT at July 31, 2021 11:18 AM (arJlL)

107 I just watched the 5 minute Love Boat compilation from the sidebar.
=======================
I watched that the other day. It's funny that to a man, all the guys were old, bald(ing) and completely out-classed by the women.
Also, Artie Johnson. He was pretty funny.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:19 AM (7Fj9P)

108 Been weened off Twatter for a year now. Thought about getting back on...nah... major time suck. I'm good.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at July 31, 2021 11:19 AM (R5lpX)

109 That's why I say wake me up when we get to Omega.
Posted by: BurtTC

That's when we get E Plebnista.
Posted by: Cloud William at July 31, 2021 11:17 AM (63Dwl)

Sounds like something you get when you go to the hospital and your nurses don't wash their hands properly.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:20 AM (5ieoM)

110 Nose-only mask? Seriously? I'm not going to look.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 31, 2021 11:20 AM (KAi1n)

111 fewer than half of young people and 36% of black people have had shots while 92% of older Americans are jabbed

has anyone been paying attention to what Minister Farrakhan thinks of the jab? How about it's a "Vial of Death"? Or that the doses going to the caucasian suburbs are for healing whereas the doses going to the hood are part of yt's grand extermination plan of the bruthas?

The tw@tter just banned NOI's official account for spreading jab misinformation while Minister Farrakhan has been on this rant since last year.

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 11:21 AM (DJFLF)

112
Have been feeling subpar for a couple of days. The wife says to get a WuFlu test. What's that going to tell me? If I don't have it, I don't have it. If it's positive the test could be wrong or there's nothing to do about it. If it's positive, it'll be my fault for not preventing myself from getting it.

I think I just picked up something at the shows last weekend. My guts are a mess, which I don't think is a symptom of ChiCom crud.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 31, 2021 11:21 AM (/U27+)

113 Shit, if KFC offered free buckets of chicken to get vaxx'd I'd be going every day.

I wonder how many drug addicts would line up daily for the mRNA Clot Shot if they were rewarded with the needle and a C note each time.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 31, 2021 11:21 AM (yrtPJ)

114 Delta obviously ain't the only business that's shit these days. There are two utility companies in West Virginia that I've had to deal with this year, and both are miserable. One is Frontier Communications. The other is AmeriGas Propane.

Frontier is simply incompetent. AmeriGas over reacted to COVID and fucked up their customer delivery system so some customers were unable to get propane to heat their homes for weeks. During the winter. At least the CEO acknowledged the issues. At Frontier all I got was telephone line run through an open window. And it didn't even work.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 31, 2021 11:21 AM (BFigT)

115 I just watched the 5 minute Love Boat compilation from the sidebar.
=======================
I watched that the other day. It's funny that to a man, all the guys were old, bald(ing) and completely out-classed by the women.
Also, Artie Johnson. He was pretty funny.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:19 AM (7Fj9P)

Why, it's almost as if perverts have been ruling Hollowood forever, and the old coots were able to rake in the stray poon by promising them "roles."

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:22 AM (5ieoM)

116 I thought Trump was the barbarian. That was my hope. But he was too civilized and soft-hearted. Too bad.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 31, 2021 11:07 AM (6QBzo)


He is a billionaire real estate developer bon vivant who just happens to love America and deployed a plan to make it work.

But no, he was not a Destroyer of Worlds

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 11:23 AM (DJFLF)

117 fine. It still hosts news you won't get anywhere else.

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 11:16 AM (DJFLF)

Exactly. Also the news out of Iran about what's really going on there. No news out if China, what a surprise, but we may be able to make some guesses since they and Iran are tied at the hip.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 31, 2021 11:23 AM (1lKRm)

118 103 I flew a Delta charter to Saudi Arabia for Desert Storm. Along with ~300 other folks in full battle rattle. 22 hours on the aircraft. The flight attendants were terrific and I've always admired them for that.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 31, 2021 11:24 AM (M9SBl)

119 Now, when it comes to showing the ways that
"businesses" want to be dynasties or empires, and do it by copying
secret medieval religious guilds or ancient mystic cults or the SS, why,
that's another story. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 31, 2021 10:42 AM (zMFmR)


It is my considered belief (me and Language arts degree) that societies, cultures and businesses fail when the cultural tools they have developed are no longer capable of coping with the problems the world throws at them. It appears that the problem is that culture becomes focused on the tools and techniques and allowing the tools to direct the response, instead of responding to the new world as described by the crisis.

It might be fighting the last war, but it is probably supporting the economic and political norms that created the weapons and tactics that were successful in the last war, instead


Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:24 AM (qaiJN)

120 "I just watched the 5 minute Love Boat compilation from the sidebar."

It reminded me of why I never watched that shit when it was on TV.

Posted by: gp's Sympathy Hydrant at July 31, 2021 11:24 AM (qpX6U)

121 You do learn to that you need to adapt. If it
wasn't for Ace, I would still be pressuring the GOP to man up, not
realizing that I was the Mark all along.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 10:45 AM (49Exr)


Larry Elder spoke at Freedom Fest last week.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:25 AM (qaiJN)

122
"I want to get the black community fully vaccinated.
It's time for @KFC, @Popeyesband @ChurchsChicken to step up to the plate and offer pop-up vaccine clinics at their restaurants."


Tuskegee Fried Chicken

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 31, 2021 11:26 AM (63Dwl)

123 I do click the Steve Inman bits that Ace links when I'm wasting time on the internet. Last week was slow for me at work. Stuff I could have done but nothing much was happening so I restarted my AoS habit.

I still haven't deleted my FB account. I just don't go there. I slightly miss being able to message people. I'm abnormal and haven't built of contacts and just text them instead. and it seems like email is just spam these days. Often I go a week between checking my personal one. Work email is active and fairly low spam, but I don't want to use it for "want to go riding" stuff even if I had email addy for everyone.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at July 31, 2021 11:26 AM (Aashi)

124 He is a billionaire real estate developer bon vivant who just happens to love America and deployed a plan to make it work.

But no, he was not a Destroyer of Worlds
Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 11:23 AM (DJFLF)

There's a scene in the movie, "The Incredibles," where Bob manages to infiltrate the lair of the bad guy. He's discovered however, and as he's making his escape, an endless series of blob guns aim at him. As he's running, the blobs expand and cover him from head to toe, slowing him, and eventually stopping him altogether.

That's my image of Trump in Washington.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:26 AM (5ieoM)

125 Frontier is simply incompetent

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 31, 2021 11:21 AM (BFigT)

Frontier service was so bad it made me go to Spectrum.

Posted by: BignJames at July 31, 2021 11:27 AM (AwYPR)

126 Yo, Burt! Did you hear the otherwise woke suburbanites of St. Louis County threw off the shackles of tyranny and voted Dr. Sam Page's edict mute? The net effect has largely been zero: private biz are still citing County requirements to mask up...but at least they got off their ass and protested.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:27 AM (7Fj9P)

127 Nose-only face mask

**

Did you see the military band member playing trombone through his face mask? Here. You can buy a mask to play your instrument through, too. Look up at the top. "Play it safe" Masks.

wfyouthsymphony.org

You can tell it's a super deadly pandemic by the way we make masks with openings to uncover the mouth and nose.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 11:28 AM (4OtGp)

128 Wait, the Louisville team couldn't license "Sluggers"?

*snort*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 31, 2021 11:29 AM (BFigT)

129 I give you stay off Twitter, been saying it myself. But many other people not so inclined due to middle of road politics might stumble in and see it.

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 11:29 AM (Cxk7w)

130 Frontier service was so bad it made me go to Spectrum.

corrected for stupidity

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 31, 2021 11:30 AM (BFigT)

131 The Lilliputian minded of DC hobbled Trump

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 31, 2021 11:30 AM (4R2XY)

132 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 31, 2021 11:21 AM (/U27+)

I am the NM from Wednesday's prayer list. My dad just got it, (apparently there's a home test now that's fairly accurate, and it was confirmed by a clinical test). He is fully vaxxed. Mostly feels tired. The concern is that it could spread to my, also fully vaxxed, grandparents who are in their 90s and Grandpa has very reduced lung function already.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 31, 2021 11:30 AM (1lKRm)

133 Tuskegee Fried Chicken
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 31, 2021 11:26 AM (63Dwl)

Ouch. What DID you put in your secret recipe???

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:31 AM (5ieoM)

134
He is a billionaire real estate developer bon vivant who just happens to love America and deployed a plan to make it work.

But no, he was not a Destroyer of Worlds
Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 11:23 AM (DJFLF)
*

I don't really think he had paid much, if any, attention to politics before he ran for president and won. I think that's a big part of why he was so shocked at how the Republicans treated him.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 11:31 AM (4OtGp)

135
Sounds like something you get when you go to the hospital and your nurses don't wash their hands properly.
Posted by: BurtTC


That's E Cola

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 31, 2021 11:32 AM (63Dwl)

136 The stages are surely still pertinent, but with the internet, one YouTube (or Rumble, whatever) video can open a lot of eyes. We see this with the info on Ivermectin (plus various such treatment protocols). We can see the results in Sweden are much better for not shutting down ...

It has gotten to the point "they" tried to make laws, and coerce Facebook/YouTube to cancel "misinformation". But the facts on Fauci leak out, and that may accelerate the decline of the administrative, bureaucratic, aristocratic ages.

The bureaucratic DeepState seems intent on using the internet for control ... and indeed "the masses" may never even hear things we discuss freely here ... but the "Aristocats" still have to tell BigLies constantly, and seem fearful of a "red-pilled" public.

imo, the DeepState cartel is going through a planned tactical infiltration/war toward NWO, even as their front men may be ego driven tools. The Plan was laid out by 1950, in The Naked Communist or Orwell's visions.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 31, 2021 11:32 AM (Cus5s)

137 112: No, I think gastric distress IS a symptom of covid Hadrian. I don't know on getting tested, but you can do something if you have some bug - get you some quecertin and ivermectin, plus zinc and vitamin D. FCCC has a protocol. When dad was sick over the 4th I took a couple doses of ivermectin in case I had been exposed and took some Q, have been taking D and didn't take a bunch of extra.

Only reason to get tested is if you are considering getting the jab. If you've had the covid and recovered than avoid the jab(s) IMO. Disclamaimer: I am not a doctor, nor ever played one on TV.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at July 31, 2021 11:33 AM (Aashi)

138 "I want to get the black community fully vaccinated.
It's time for @KFC, @Popeyesband @ChurchsChicken to step up to the plate and offer pop-up vaccine clinics at their restaurants."

**

Holy crap. The lady that said this has her profile info as "I may be white, but I'm making it right."

She truly has no idea that she's a traditional Democrat.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 11:33 AM (4OtGp)

139
I don't really think he had paid much, if any, attention to politics before he ran for president and won. I think that's a big part of why he was so shocked at how the Republicans treated him.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 11:31 AM (4OtGp)

I wonder if the Republicans did reach out to him but treated him like a child.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 31, 2021 11:34 AM (cSyAR)

140 Yo, Burt! Did you hear the otherwise woke suburbanites of St. Louis County threw off the shackles of tyranny and voted Dr. Sam Page's edict mute? The net effect has largely been zero: private biz are still citing County requirements to mask up...but at least they got off their ass and protested.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:27 AM (7Fj9P)

I've been wondering about that. Last I heard the County Council said Grand Vizier Page didn't have the authority to do that, and he said "nuh uh, I so do."

My St. Louis "news" sources only tell me about percentages of beds that are being occupied with the Jet Blue variant.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:34 AM (5ieoM)

141 After omega they'll start with naming the mutations after genders, and there are 57 of those.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 31, 2021 10:36 AM (VxC1e)

Um, no, that's naming them after the states!

Posted by: InCali at July 31, 2021 11:34 AM (ov5G+)

142 https://www.americanthinker.com/
bawling cops not going over well with public poll shows drop in support for jan 6 commission

Napoleon- Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 11:35 AM (Cxk7w)

143 "I think that's a big part of why he was so shocked at how the Republicans treated him."

Ha. I can relate.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 11:36 AM (49Exr)

144
Fried chicken is always a good idea anyway.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 31, 2021 11:36 AM (/U27+)

145 Sounds like something you get when you go to the hospital and your nurses don't wash their hands properly.
Posted by: BurtTC

That's E Cola
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 31, 2021 11:32 AM (63Dwl)

If you are stricken with C Morbuts though, you're done for.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:36 AM (5ieoM)

146 She's a full on Stasi Karen

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 31, 2021 11:36 AM (4R2XY)

147 Hiya, JT

Posted by: KT at July 31, 2021 11:37 AM (BVQ+1)

148 "Um, no, that's naming them after the states!"

Nah, they'll name them after GOP candidartes.

The Cruz Variant.

And the more lethal DeSantis Strain.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 11:37 AM (49Exr)

149 After omega they'll start with naming the mutations after genders, and there are 57 of those.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 31, 2021 10:36 AM (VxC1e)

Um, no, that's naming them after the states!
Posted by: InCali at July 31, 2021 11:34 AM (ov5G+)

And then at 4AM, the Atlanta Election Commission finds more variants under their desks.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:38 AM (5ieoM)

150 CDC straight-up memeing on Twitter. This is priceless.

https://tinyurl.com/3vedfyyc

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 31, 2021 11:39 AM (OssQ4)

151 ".. military band member playing trombone through his face mask?"

but the spit valve can only be opened into a toxic waste container ... and he needs a face mask on the end of the trombone ... as all wind instruments would need.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 31, 2021 11:39 AM (Cus5s)

152 I don't know about Delta's corporate culture, but I've avoided them for decades because they were the airline with the most near-collisions while in flight.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 31, 2021 11:40 AM (1lKRm)

153 Insane, programmed NPC bots.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus

I believe it. My friends are borderline normies but not NPCs. My SO is on the level thank the Lord.
But these NPCs are disturbing. I've limited my exposure to them since Obama was elected in 08, I quit watching MegaCorp news, I only watch movies and TV to study propaganda, and got off Facebook by 2010.
I think 40% of the country and 65% in some states would drink lethal poison if instructed.
It's so damn weird.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 31, 2021 11:41 AM (Ir+se)

154 From what I've read/seen, people with immune deficiency, diabetes and COPD should not take the shot. And also people who have had the Kung Flu shouldn't take the jab, either. I tested positive last summer but had no symptoms. My wife, who hits every one of the "do not take the shot" parameters, didn't have any symptoms either.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at July 31, 2021 11:41 AM (R5lpX)

155 I've been wondering about that. Last I heard the County Council said Grand Vizier Page didn't have the authority to do that, and he said "nuh uh, I so do."
=====================
He clearly doesn't, it was a coordinated effort with D'shar Soros in the city. AG Schmidt is taking both to court. Apparently it's all about the grift: they're trying to get in line early for Chynah virus bucks.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:42 AM (7Fj9P)

156 Since dad was not able to keep food down, I didn't try to have him take Ivermectin as I only have it in paste from (horse wormer.) I did tell him to take the Quecertin and his choking cough got much better. I thought I was going to end up taking dad to urgent care or an emergency room but he never got sick enough to want to go and got to feeling better after a few days. He is an 81 year old stubborn man plus I don't want to try to play nanny to my dad even if it would fly, so I didn't fuss at him that he should get the vax even before all these cases of people getting covid anyway , and I don't nag him that should eat better etc.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at July 31, 2021 11:42 AM (Aashi)

157 "CDC straight-up memeing on Twitter. This is priceless"

In an effort to reach out to the public, they inadvertently used the NPC meme. Top men. So reassuring.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 11:43 AM (49Exr)

158 Surprised Leftists haven't named Covid Trump flu

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 11:43 AM (Cxk7w)

159 (1)

How this situation has endured so long without collapsing is a mystery to me. Posted by: gp's Bureau Of Joy at July 31, 2021 11:14 AM (qpX6U)

David Ricardo wrote a Philadelphia banker in the early 1800's asking about the US private banks issuing unbacked, or partially unbacked currency (paper issued beyond the assets claimed by the bank to back it as redeemable)


Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:43 AM (qaiJN)

160 (2)

In British banking this would tend to create a bank run and a
quick bankruptcy for the private bank, and he was trying to figure out
why the individual in the US would hold paper money or have accounts in
these banks when the chance of default on the funds was so high.
The
banker replied that everyone held on to it in the hope they could sell
out first, and for the moment, it was what was going and what was being
accepted. It was a mass belief that it would hold for the moment.


Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:43 AM (qaiJN)

161 (3)

The
second reason is economic, a lot of the paper money at the time went to
the "western" territories where banking and roads were of lower
quality, and there was a perpetual shortage of coinage, and the paper
money sent there could be years in coming back, so a lot of the paper
could be "kited" like a bad check and by the time it was brought back
for redemption, more money would have been sent out.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:44 AM (qaiJN)

162
(4)

GEEZ-LOUISE PIXIE!!!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 11:44 AM (qaiJN)

163 "The State of California seems to have pretty much graduated from a corrupt bureaucracy to the insane aristocratic stage."
SO TRUE. The madness is so deep I don't know if even a recall will be enough. And there are lots of other recalls too, like Commie DA Gascon.

After all, where were all these people on the actual election day? How do these lunatics win in the first place?

Posted by: pj at July 31, 2021 11:45 AM (G1dq6)

164 CDC straight-up memeing on Twitter. This is priceless.
https://tinyurl.com/3vedfyyc
Posted by: Taqiyyologist,
***

They have an entire webpage set up to trying to get people to spread propaganda on social media:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-
ncov/communication/vaccination-toolkit.html

If you're on twitter you should have some fun and post the images that they ask you to post where it says "Getting a COVID19 vaccine will help keep you from getting COVID19" Scroll down to "Facebook Digital Resources" and you'll see the "you can't catch it if you get a shot!" images that the CDC made and asks for your help to spread.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 11:45 AM (4OtGp)

165 I've been wondering about that. Last I heard the County Council said Grand Vizier Page didn't have the authority to do that, and he said "nuh uh, I so do."
=====================
He clearly doesn't, it was a coordinated effort with D'shar Soros in the city. AG Schmidt is taking both to court. Apparently it's all about the grift: they're trying to get in line early for Chynah virus bucks.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:42 AM (7Fj9P)

Are people resisting the maks up bullshite?

If bidnesses are getting on board with it, then it almost doesn't matter what the state does.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:46 AM (5ieoM)

166 "If Masks Don't Work, Why do Surgeons Wear Them?"

This is the result of a K-12 "education" that leaves the victim with a toddler's cognition.

First of all, define "work". Because once one does do that then they realize that the use cases are very different. To conflate "stop the spreading of a virus" with "capturing spittle and snot from those bent over an open wound" is to demonstrate a child's understanding of the world around them.

These kinds of people can't be helped and should focus their energies on improving their video game scores.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 31, 2021 11:46 AM (yrtPJ)

167 Come on it can't be all that bad, Gruesome hasn't made his horse secretary of state yet

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 11:47 AM (Cxk7w)

168 CDC straight-up memeing on Twitter. This is priceless.

**

Holy.
Crap.

I just realized they literally used the NPC meme image for the person getting the vaccine. (dots for eyes, line for nose, go look for yourself)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 11:48 AM (4OtGp)

169 For those keeping track: John Rahm, the "fully" vaxed professional golfer who had to withdraw from a tournament in June (w/a 6 stroke lead!) b/c he tested positive, has just tested positive again.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:49 AM (7Fj9P)

170 PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at July 31, 2021 11:42 AM

Regular quercetin absorbs much better with vitamin C or fat. Not sure how much it helps, but I take it as a mast cell stabilizer (for allergies). Don't overdo it on a chronic basis.

Dextromethorphan, the cough suppressant, increases viral replication in vitro.

I got a bottle of some homeopathic stuff, just in case. Someone said it helped their relative who was coughing with COVID.

Posted by: KT at July 31, 2021 11:50 AM (BVQ+1)

171 "This is the result of a K-12 "education" that leaves the victim with a toddler's cognition."

Worse, because West Wing actually touched on this

https://tinyurl.com/2522d7zw

... but it's fan base doesn't possess the critical thinking skills to transfer the lesson. Instead, they resort to "10 word answers"

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 11:50 AM (49Exr)

172 For those keeping track: John Rahm, the "fully" vaxed professional golfer who had to withdraw from a tournament in June (w/a 6 stroke lead!) b/c he tested positive, has just tested positive again.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:49 AM (7Fj9P)

And for those keeping score at home:

1. Testing positive is NOT a diagnosis. The tests have never been reliable, as they are too sensitive.

2. People who are hospitalized WITH the virus are NOT differentiated from those who are hospitalized FOR the virus.

And C. Misinformation and disinformation are types of information, and have served the government well for a long long long time.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:52 AM (5ieoM)

173 CDC straight-up memeing on Twitter. This is priceless.

**

Holy.
Crap.

I just realized they literally used the NPC meme image for the person getting the vaccine. (dots for eyes, line for nose, go look for yourself)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 11:48 AM (4OtGp)

When you see something like that it's possibly because someone on the inside is red pilled and sending a message out. Like messages left inside Hapabese anti aircraft ordinance or the gentle tap tap tapping you hear coming from under the floorboards of the weirdo neighbor's living room.

We must commit ourselves to radio silence and let our man do his good work.

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 11:54 AM (MxVZG)

174 The Delta variant is just cover for the vaccine losing potency and causing those who were vaccinated to be infected (my sis out in SF is an uber lefty who is double vaccinated, and a pretty healthy person, she's not someone who leaves her house to go to bars or go in crowded places, she was pretty damn sick 2 weeks ago and came back covid positive)

They tried this already when they attempted to scare us with the other variants, but having the vaccine come out hurt those cries of wolf. This time they made sure to time the hysteria (despite them first talking about this variant months and months ago being in the US, but apparently not hurting anyone) with the vaccines failures, to allow them to use the non-surge as a way to again impose their fascism.

Notice now they are trying to push that Florida is getting a new Columbian variant, as a way to try and hurt Desantis, and FL's economy. They'll be a new variant every time they need something and 50% of the idiots in this country will comply.

Posted by: Rbastid at July 31, 2021 11:54 AM (4POYX)

175 Are people resisting the maks up bullshite?

If bidnesses are getting on board with it, then it almost doesn't matter what the state does.
========================
It's place to place. restaurants are at full capacity, but signs saying "Mask up, for our staff!!" The big-box stores are still requiring it, but we just stopped shopping at those.
We'll see what happens. I've started defying their signs, shopped at our global grocery store w/o. Lots of people are too. Attitude seems to be fug it.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:57 AM (7Fj9P)

176 Notice now they are trying to push that Florida is getting a new Columbian variant, as a way to try and hurt Desantis, and FL's economy. They'll be a new variant every time they need something and 50% of the idiots in this country will comply.

Posted by: Rbastid at July 31, 2021 11:54 AM (4POYX)

Damn, there's a Columbian variant??

That's where I get my cocaine from.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 11:57 AM (5ieoM)

177 Worse, because West Wing actually touched on this


My answer: Pareto's Principle. Government employ's only the top twenty percent?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 31, 2021 11:58 AM (yrtPJ)

178 I think the "American Thinker" article is hilarious that says the cryfest testimony on the Capitol event didn't go over well. The support for the "investigation" has plummeted-and it probably didn't help for people to find out that one policemen was a supporter of BLM and the riots.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 31, 2021 11:59 AM (k39e/)

179 Not sure if this is real or not; forced injection down under:

https://t.me/TheConspiracyOfTruth/17927

Posted by: Vyx at July 31, 2021 11:59 AM (Cn3O7)

180 152 I don't know about Delta's corporate culture, but I've avoided them for decades because they were the airline with the most near-collisions while in flight.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 31, 2021 11:40 AM (1lKRm)


------------

I predict that Delta's record won't improve when they carry through on their promise to recruit flight crews based on their skin color rather than for their proven ability to, you know, FLY A FUCKING AIRPLANE.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 31, 2021 11:59 AM (VxC1e)

181 People who are hospitalized WITH the virus are NOT differentiated from those who are hospitalized FOR the virus.

**

And the CDC is not tracking vaccinated people who have caught the COVID unless they're hospitalized or die.

"As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance."
- CDC.gov

Literally no information is true anymore or is there any way to get data to make accurate choices.

Which should give you data to make an accurate choice, honestly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 11:59 AM (4OtGp)

182 ...when your wife comes home w/a stand mixer from thrift store, and flexes it w/scrambled eggs...

..."Ahhhhhhh, shit! Nobody come in here!!"

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:59 AM (7Fj9P)

183 At Delta, we loves us some flying, and it be showing like a mother***er.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 31, 2021 12:00 PM (OssQ4)

184 It's place to place. restaurants are at full capacity, but signs saying "Mask up, for our staff!!" The big-box stores are still requiring it, but we just stopped shopping at those.
We'll see what happens. I've started defying their signs, shopped at our global grocery store w/o. Lots of people are too. Attitude seems to be fug it.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 11:57 AM (7Fj9P)

Yeah, I think people need to vote with their feet. If a store requires a maks, go somewhere else.

If a needed store is going to tell you to maks up, walk in the door without your maks on, until somebody stops you. Leave if you have to, don't get crazy about it, but FORCE the company to have to deal with you. Sooner or later, they'll get tired of it. Their employees will quit, or their bottom line suffers enough, companies will stop bowing and scraping to the Covid Overlords.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:00 PM (5ieoM)

185 Maybe it's me, but the graphics the CDC is using are so childish I don't know how anyone would take them seriously.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 31, 2021 12:01 PM (BFigT)

186 "messages left inside Hapabese anti aircraft ordinance"

Google doesn't give me a hit on this, what's the story?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 12:01 PM (49Exr)

187 and it probably didn't help for people to find out that one all four policemen was a supporter of BLM and the riots.
=============
I guarantee they were bought off by Nanzi, one way or another.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 31, 2021 12:02 PM (7Fj9P)

188 ""If Masks Don't Work, Why do Surgeons Wear Them?"


It's not to protect the surgeons. It's to protect the patient on the table with their chest ripped open.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 31, 2021 12:02 PM (ZHVt1)

189 Thanks KT. I don't think dad was hitting cough syrup. He's had a fairly chronic low grade cough for months that is most likely allergies. His biggest health problem IMO is he doesn't control his blood sugar with type 2 diabetes. But I don't waste my energy trying to nanny him about that. He's still more competent than sundown Joe; so if his doc couldn't persuade him he isn't going to listen to his kid.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at July 31, 2021 12:03 PM (Aashi)

190

The Senate convened for a rare weekend session on Saturday, with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer encouraging the authors of a bipartisan infrastructure plan to finish writing their bill so that senators can begin offering amendments.

"The longer it takes to finish, the longer we will be here, but we're going to get the job done," Schumer said.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 31, 2021 12:04 PM (63Dwl)

191 Maybe it's me, but the graphics the CDC is using are so childish I don't know how anyone would take them seriously.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

The same caliber employees made a birth certificate from scratch with Adobe Illustrator and forgot to turn the layers into a flat file, remember? These people don't hire based on merit.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 31, 2021 12:05 PM (OssQ4)

192 - CDC.gov

Literally no information is true anymore or is there any way to get data to make accurate choices.

Which should give you data to make an accurate choice, honestly.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 11:59 AM (4OtGp)

As I've said over and over here and elsewhere, having worked in the HIV world for years, back in the day when CDC was trying to drum up the scare, they would differentiate ALL other data, by age, sex, race, etc.

But when it came to so-called hetero transmissions, suddenly the data was all lumped in one place.

Oh yes it was. So... if you were a woman, who got it because your male partner gets reamed at bathhouses on weekends, or is shooting up on a regular basis with his pals in the drug dens, you were a hetero case. And they kept emphasizing how the PERCENTAGES of hetero cases were going up faster than all other categories. That's because going from one to two is a 100% increase, whereas going from 1 million to 1.1 million is a 10% increase. One is obviously more "alarming" than the other.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:05 PM (5ieoM)

193 It's too late to start calling Covid "The Trump Flu" and the reason is that THEY were more on board with it than Trump was.

Think about it. All they did was call Trump a dictator, Hitler, Mussolini etc.---and yet, their chief complaint about him regarding Covid is that he wasn't enough of a DICTATOR. He didn't ORDER the country around.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 31, 2021 12:05 PM (mR6Gs)

194 Am I right that the future of the Republic hangs on Synema's vacation plans?

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 31, 2021 12:05 PM (ZHVt1)

195 Google doesn't give me a hit on this, what's the story?
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 12:01 PM (49Exr)


Unexploded ordinance recovered from a US bomber that made it home was finally DXd to find out why it didn't go boom and take the fully laden bomber out (and to determine if it was still OK to sit on the CO's bookshelf)

The fuze had a cardboard disk keeping it from acting, with the note on it that indicated that it was made in a forced labor camp and they did that to help the Allies as an act of sabotage. If it was detected the worker would have been executed out of hand for the act.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 12:06 PM (qaiJN)

196 It's not to protect the surgeons. It's to protect the patient on the table with their chest ripped open.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 31, 2021 12:02 PM (ZHVt1)

Malpractice lawyers for surgeons will tell you it's ALSO to protect surgeons from a very different type of infectious disease.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:07 PM (5ieoM)

197 "This week, I have been thinking about our government's frenetic, irrational response to the "Delta Variant". The narrative changes moment to moment. I can't keep up."

It's not irrational, it's evil. They know what they're doing.

Posted by: somedood at July 31, 2021 12:08 PM (/z9fK)

198 Google doesn't give me a hit on this, what's the story?
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 12:01 PM (49Exr)

Well Hapabese was meant to be Japanese and freakin' Autocucumber is never there when you need it.

But apparently Allied POWs that were forced into slave labor would disarm the warheads and leave little notes.

Or maybe it was Allied POWs in Germany.

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 12:08 PM (MxVZG)

199 "Not sure if this is real or not: forced injection down under"

I think it's fake, because he's not just reporting on what may (or may not be) forced injections, he has a political message about organizing that starts at 0:20 ...which I think was his primary goal.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 12:08 PM (49Exr)

200 But when it came to so-called hetero transmissions, suddenly the data was all lumped in one place.

**

It's been discussed here before, but IIRC when you go through the actual data on the CDC website the annual numbers for straight, white males catching the HIV/AIDS is under 300 (three hundred), and that's assuming 100% honesty.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 12:09 PM (4OtGp)

201 76 YD,
Tonynbee is the historian most associated with cycles of civilization. That is not to say that others have not posited the same thing all the way back to Aristotle on Politics.

Toynbee fell out of favor in the 60's, in part, because progressives hated him and others thought his formula just a little too pat. Toynbee also wrote an excellent general history of ancient Greece among others.

Posted by: whig at July 31, 2021 12:09 PM (pO7gM)

202 "Well Hapabese was meant to be Japanese"

And I wasn't smart enough to catch that. Gak!

Intern! Moar Coffee

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 12:09 PM (49Exr)

203
The Senate convened for a rare weekend session on Saturday, with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer encouraging the authors of a bipartisan infrastructure plan to finish writing their bill so that senators can begin offering amendments.

"The longer it takes to finish, the longer we will be here, but we're going to get the job done," Schumer said.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot,

What's the rush

Posted by: Jean at July 31, 2021 12:10 PM (U/0zO)

204 The Aussies I'm in contact with are afraid of a directive to order forced vaccinations.


Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 12:10 PM (qaiJN)

205 Am I right that the future of the Republic hangs on Synema's vacation plans?
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 31, 2021 12:05 PM (ZHVt1)

Every red-blooded American male wants to desperately know: Is Senatrix Kristen putting sunscreen on her cottage cheese thighs this week or isn't she???

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:10 PM (5ieoM)

206 Weren't the Hapabese the pre-Japanese residents of the Japanese islands.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 31, 2021 12:10 PM (cSyAR)

207 Am I right that the future of the Republic hangs on Synema's vacation plans?
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 31, 2021 12:05 PM (ZHVt1)

Quick! We must fund a visit from a group of young and buff Brazilian pool boys along with the finest mid-priced wine money can buy!

And baby oil. Lots and lots of baby oil! Lather them boys up for her!

Posted by: Robert - 34 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at July 31, 2021 12:11 PM (MxVZG)

208 And they kept emphasizing how the PERCENTAGES of hetero cases were going up faster than all other categories.

It was this very use of disinformation that reversed the leadership of the Moral Majority giving the green light to 'W' to fund the shit out of AIDS research and prevention. The Fe'ral government throwing tax dollars at it encouraged foundations and other entities to do same.

Everyone then wanted that uncashed lottery ticket and would say and do anything to get it.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 31, 2021 12:12 PM (ImQ9z)

209 note on it that indicated that it was made in a forced labor camp and they did that to help the Allies as an act of sabotage.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 12:06 PM (qaiJN)

Ah. Thanks.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 12:12 PM (49Exr)

210 Has even one member of Congress or the Senate actually been sick because of covid.
I believe there have been positive tests, I'm talking sick.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 31, 2021 12:12 PM (cSyAR)

211 The Aussies I'm in contact with are afraid of a directive to order forced vaccinations.

Too bad the option to trade lead for Clot Shot is no longer available to them.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 31, 2021 12:13 PM (ImQ9z)

212 I avoided Delta because I hated flying thru ATL, then had to fly Lagos to Atlanta last year and was reminded how much they suck.

Posted by: Jean at July 31, 2021 12:14 PM (U/0zO)

213 Has even one member of Congress or the Senate actually been sick because of covid.
I believe there have been positive tests, I'm talking sick.
Posted by: Northernlurkerish

A R from. LA died, but he's been memory hiled

Posted by: Jean at July 31, 2021 12:15 PM (U/0zO)

214 Willowed?

Posted by: Jean at July 31, 2021 12:16 PM (U/0zO)

215 ...and that's assuming 100% honesty.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 12:09 PM (4OtGp)

Which I don't.

Anecdotally, I've talked with dozens of these guys, and they will tell you the most convoluted stories as to how they got their buttsecks crud.

Peeing in a public restroom, and splashing from the urinal is one of my favorites. There was the guy who SWORE he got it from GIVING blood (see, the nurses doing the blood draws must be re-using their needles).

Which is why I always appreciated the guys who were fully out of the closet. "Yeah, I was getting reamed by dozens of guys a week. Oops!"

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:16 PM (5ieoM)

216 Lol
Occupy wall street?

Posted by: Kurt at July 31, 2021 12:17 PM (LdvJe)

217 Years ago Delta lost my stepson who was returning from his annual summer visit with his Dad. They re-routed the flight to an airport 60 miles away and didn't bother to inform anyone waiting until the plane was about 45 minutes late. We had to drive to the alternate landing airport and wasted about an hour locating the kid, who was under the care of Delta employees. I told them, in writing, that they were now a former supplier of my airline needs. They responded with a letter offering me an insultingly low discount on my next flight with them. Nothing that those SOB's do surprises me.

Posted by: FatAlbert at July 31, 2021 12:18 PM (nf81B)

218 Weren't the Hapabese the pre-Japanese residents of the Japanese islands.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 31, 2021 12:10 PM (cSyAR)

Anus.

Posted by: BignJames at July 31, 2021 12:20 PM (AwYPR)

219 On the OTH, a google of "Australia forced injections" returns some comedy:

Mar 5, 2020
False: Australia's coronavirus pandemic plan will force...
A post makes the claim that Australia plans to "force...

Apr 23, 2021
Is it true? Are COVID-19 vaccines mandatory in Australia?
Vaccination for COVID-19 is voluntary...

Jun 28, 2021
Forced to vaccinate: Australia's new rules around mandatory...
The COVID vaccine is now mandatory for the first time for people who work in the aged care sector.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 12:20 PM (49Exr)

220 And the CDC is not tracking vaccinated people who have caught the COVID unless they're hospitalized or die.
I saw a screenshot a medical clerk in TN posted. It was the email her office had received, directing them NOT to record vaxxed patients' 'rona cases, unless they were serious enough to go to hospital.

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 12:22 PM (DJFLF)

221 Jun 28, 2021
Forced to vaccinate: Australia's new rules around mandatory...
The COVID vaccine is now mandatory for the first time for people who work in the aged care sector.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 12:20 PM (49Exr)

It's fun watching FedGov walk back their mandate here.

I guess somebody finally asked the public employee unions what they think about all this.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:22 PM (5ieoM)

222 GOA news out of Oregon is a 2A win in court for sanctuary ordinance.

Doomberg's folks were trying to invalidate it.

Columbia County, Oregon.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2021 12:23 PM (R/m4+)

223 67 In the insane aristocratic stage, I think there comes a point where the conflict between their insanity and reality bubbles to the surface. Take transgenders for example. Try as hard as they may, at the end of the day, when the lights go down, and they are alone with their thoughts, they have to know that they are merely playing dress up. Take hormones? Still just dress up. Have mutilating surgery? Still just cosplay. Scream at the top of their lungs, "I am woman, hear me roar!"? Still just a mangled wreck of a man. And deep down they know it.
*********

Used to be, such folk were considered emotionally disturbed.

Today, they are considered variants of "normal", and YOU are effed up if you think they are mangled wrecks.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at July 31, 2021 12:23 PM (fPFtn)

224 The COVID vaccine is now mandatory for the first time for people who work in the aged care sector.


I think the video is not a forced vax, but... maybe it is. IDK.

As for the message to organize and fight back, I'm not sure that is a bad thing. Thousands have had serious side effects from the injections, side effects that are much, much worse than COVID.

Posted by: Vyx at July 31, 2021 12:23 PM (LS4XM)

225 I saw a screenshot a medical clerk in TN posted. It was the email her office had received, directing them NOT to record vaxxed patients' 'rona cases, unless they were serious enough to go to hospital.
Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 12:22 PM (DJFLF)

**

It's right there on their website. Direct quote. Don't do it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 12:25 PM (4OtGp)

226 so what is the pushback for mandatory vax?


strikes and street violence?

targeting of politicos who instituted it?

We should watch AUS or France to see what they do

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 31, 2021 12:25 PM (bTQ72)

227 It was the email her office had received, directing them NOT to record vaxxed patients' 'rona cases, unless they were serious enough to go to hospital.

I saw something the other day from a nurse that said in the past, vax status was front and center on the patient forms. Now it is buried deep within the files. It's almost as if BigMedical doesn't want us to know that vaxxed patients are getting really sick.

Posted by: Vyx at July 31, 2021 12:25 PM (LS4XM)

228 Weren't the Hapabese the pre-Japanese residents of the Japanese islands.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 31, 2021 12:10 PM (cSyAR)

Anus.
Posted by: BignJames at July 31, 2021 12:20 PM (AwYPR)



Hey, he was just asking a question!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 31, 2021 12:28 PM (VxC1e)

229 CDC quit tracking vaccinated individuals getting Corona as of May this year unless hospitalized or dead.

Posted by: whig at July 31, 2021 12:29 PM (pO7gM)

230 I don't know where I heard/read this, probably here since this is pretty much my only source: the KGB, the Vatican, the Pentagon, and the NYC school system are more alike than different.

Posted by: Wenda at July 31, 2021 12:30 PM (ysRIx)

231 BTW, it appears that millions are in the streets in France today protesting restrictions due to Covid.

Posted by: whig at July 31, 2021 12:30 PM (pO7gM)

232
i think the reason H1N1 deaths were only 18,000 was Obama told the CDC to stop countiing.

The CDC is terribly political and their advise is only worth so much

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 31, 2021 12:30 PM (bTQ72)

233 CDC quit tracking vaccinated individuals getting Corona as of May this year unless hospitalized or dead.
Posted by: whig at July 31, 2021 12:29 PM (pO7gM)


I guess the classification "died WITH vaccination" was not as reassuring as initial polling indicated

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 12:30 PM (qaiJN)

234 Hey, he was just asking a question!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 31, 2021 12:28 PM (VxC1e)

Oh....Ainus

Posted by: BignJames at July 31, 2021 12:32 PM (AwYPR)

235 They're pushing these Tuskegee-Class GMO-Jabs hard before people find out the truth about them.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 31, 2021 12:32 PM (Ndje9)

236 Several of the better independent analysts who've provided sane, actually scientific and logical commentary on the whole C19 catastrophe since the outset have made damage to the credibility of public health, scientific, and medical institutions a prominent concern, as they debunked, etc.

But there are at least two moving parts to this situation.

Sure, to anyone even slightly analytical and informed, the science-free, bumbling, unethical and authoritarian bumbling of these sectors has been a shock.

But the populace we're talking about is so degraded, dumbed-down, and temperamentally mindlessly compliant and scared - or at least a working majority of it - that "credibility" doesn't really come into play. The Authority announces 3 illogical unsubstantiated things that contradict the nonsense they vomited up 2 months ago - the drones comply.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 31, 2021 12:34 PM (OTzUX)

237 76 Yudhishthira's Dice
.
"Fate of Empires" John Glubb
.
Argues that empires die out in a 200-250 year period, as the underlying culture that forms the empire moves from aggressive expansion into a decadent oriented "me" culture. Similar to the book under discussion here.
.
Also check out "Forging The Hero" by (pen name) John Mosby at Lulu. 50 bucks but worth it. took me a couple f reads before I stopped getting mad at some of his points. Statrs out by developing Glubb's argument a bit further

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 31, 2021 12:34 PM (0ifll)

238
Literally no information is true anymore or is there any way to get data to make accurate choices.



Which should give you data to make an accurate choice, honestly.

Even the Annenberg Public Policy spokespyrsyn decries the lack of transparency around the data behind CDC diktats.
source: Yesterday WaPo article re: transmission rates of the vaxxed

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 12:35 PM (DJFLF)

239 So what disgusting thing will Senile Joe do next after crossing the eating a booger threshold?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 31, 2021 12:36 PM (cSyAR)

240 oops, forgot to note that "The Fate of Empires" can be found free online as a PDF

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 31, 2021 12:36 PM (0ifll)

241 Oh....Ainus
Posted by: BignJames at July 31, 2021 12:32 PM (AwYPR)

Stop being mean to everyone here!

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:36 PM (5ieoM)

242 "It's almost as if BigMedical doesn't want us to know that vaxxed patients are getting really sick."

CDC misled us about Ebola for political reasons. When the public asked if it was "airborne" the CDC knew what they meant was "can I catch it from the guy coughing next to me on the bus?" (yes) Instead, they fell back on the technical medical definition of airborne (aerosolized) to avoid a panic.

CDC misled us about COVID for political reasons. They claimed the N95 respirators were not effective to avoid a run on them that would have shorted 1st responders.

So now whenever the CDC issues a statement, my first instinct is "what's their angle this time"

We are not supposed to have to interpret CDC statements as if we were reading Pravda. Trust in the medical community during a contagion is vital. And they've found a way to screw that up too.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 12:36 PM (49Exr)

243 CDC misled us about COVID for political reasons. They claimed the N95 respirators were not effective to avoid a run on them that would have shorted 1st responders.

But I thought N95's were only for dust particles and ineffective against Covid anyway

Posted by: JoeF. at July 31, 2021 12:38 PM (mR6Gs)

244 Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:36 PM (5ieoM)

Interesting. I'm getting the same hash using two different machines with VPN turned on. I don't believe that has happened before.

Either my VPN is fake, or Pixy is getting more tricksy at detecting sources of posts.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:39 PM (5ieoM)

245 vpn test

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 12:40 PM (Ihx6Z)

246 So what disgusting thing will Senile Joe do next after crossing the eating a booger threshold?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 31, 2021 12:36 PM (cSyAR)

Has he tried ear wax?

Posted by: BignJames at July 31, 2021 12:40 PM (AwYPR)

247 BurtTC, make sure your webrtc option is disabled. Browsers are set up to defeat VPNs by default.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 12:41 PM (Ihx6Z)

248 We are not supposed to have to interpret CDC statements as if we were reading Pravda. Trust in the medical community during a contagion is vital. And they've found a way to screw that up too.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 31, 2021 12:36 PM (49Exr)

CDC is to health as FBI is to law enforcement as CIA is to fighting foreign agents as Homeland Security is to... well, homeland security.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:41 PM (5ieoM)

249 Has Trucker Joe scratched his ass on camera yet?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 31, 2021 12:41 PM (cSyAR)

250 VPN off...

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:42 PM (hku12)

251 Zulu variant!!! *hic* Stay safe.

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at July 31, 2021 12:43 PM (W4eKo)

252 Oh crap, now the hash with the VPN is trollblocked...

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:45 PM (hku12)

253 We are willowed but still vibrant until the pet thread, then this thread is dead

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 12:46 PM (Cxk7w)

254 Got a movie for dead time today

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 12:46 PM (Cxk7w)

255 Sorry folks, ignore me while I work this out (that's what SHE said).

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:46 PM (AIH1c)

256 I'm sorry to say, but we've entered -
7: The Aristocratic Inbred Putrefaction Stage
or
The Booger-Eaters Triumphant Age

Just as the inbred European aristocracy started producing idiots and grotesques due to their disastrous inbreeding.
Our Betters all intermarry, all go to the same schools, all belong to the same political party, all live in the same areas, all believe the same things or they simply will not be able to enter the Daisy-Chain of Wealth and Power.

Preezy Booger-Eater didn't gain his position through brilliance or leadership. He gained it through strict subservience to those higher on the chain than he.
We have an Aristocracy of Intellectual Grotesques and Idiocy who no longer have any idea of the people they "rule" but feel they deserve to rule. The Historical (Divine) Right of Leftards as it were.

But, as always, The People will tire of misrule. Preezy Booger-Eater and Veep Throat are speeding that process along by being so demonstrably awful.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 31, 2021 12:47 PM (5NkmN)

257 We're back on. And now this thread is dead, I bid everyone a good day... until the movie(?) thread.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 31, 2021 12:48 PM (AIH1c)

258
But, as always, The People will tire of misrule. Preezy Booger-Eater and Veep Throat are speeding that process along by being so demonstrably awful.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 31, 2021 12:47 PM (5NkmN)

When does the administration start distributing Soma?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 31, 2021 12:49 PM (cSyAR)

259 My neighbor has COVID. She took the J&J vax. Uncharacteristic headache has lasted for days, plus a lot of fatigue.

She blames an unvaccinated cousin, who does not seem to be sick.

Posted by: KT at July 31, 2021 12:56 PM (BVQ+1)

260 She blames an unvaccinated cousin, who does not seem to be sick.
Posted by: KT at July 31, 2021 12:56 PM (BVQ+1)

That got everyone thinking that anyone who is NOT sick is the one spreading this.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 31, 2021 12:58 PM (mR6Gs)

261 My neighbor has COVID. She took the J&J vax. Uncharacteristic headache has lasted for days, plus a lot of fatigue.

She's getting micro-blood clots to the brain. Happened to husbands co-worker. If she can get a D-Dimer test, it will confirm it.

/and it's from the vaxxxx

Posted by: shibumi at July 31, 2021 12:59 PM (XHrkn)

262 avoided Delta because I hated flying thru ATL, then had to fly Lagos to Atlanta last year and was reminded how much they suck.
Posted by: Jean at July 31, 2021 12:14 PM (U/0zO)

Unfortunately Delta is the only airline serving where I would fly without going through Moose Jaw.

Posted by: Fox2 at July 31, 2021 01:02 PM (qyH+l)

263 https://www.dailysignal.com/texas man gets 11 years-for-buying homes cars with 25 million in covid-19 relief campaign scam

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 01:06 PM (Cxk7w)

264 So what disgusting thing will Senile Joe do next after crossing the eating a booger threshold?
Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 31, 2021 12:36 PM (cSyAR)

Sneak some drinks on the sly and puke on Hunter's Porsche's seats?

Posted by: Spaulding Smails at July 31, 2021 01:09 PM (R/m4+)

265 Bondage to Bondage.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 31, 2021 01:11 PM (kaziy)

266 So Washington governor Inslee had a video conference with Slo Joe to discuss the wildfires in the west. That would of been fascinating to listen in on. An clueless idiot talking with a dementia addled old man.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 31, 2021 01:17 PM (axyOa)

267 Diogenes, I understand the Mayor of Seattle is begging for more police officers.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 31, 2021 01:22 PM (kaziy)

268 The dumb leading the blind

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 01:27 PM (Cxk7w)

269 Diogenes, I understand the Mayor of Seattle is begging for more police officers.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 31, 2021 01:22 PM (kaziy)


Join the SPD: it is a peryn's life! Full ROE legislation for all public interactions and no legal representation! Be the city council's enforcer, bag-man and whipping boy rolled into one!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 01:31 PM (qaiJN)

270 So Washington governor Inslee had a video conference
with Slo Joe to discuss the wildfires in the west. That would of been
fascinating to listen in on. An clueless idiot talking with a dementia
addled old man.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 31, 2021 01:17 PM (axyOa)


I think most of the fires are in CA and BC too.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2021 01:33 PM (qaiJN)

271 Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 31, 2021 12:34 PM (0ifll)

Thank you.

Will buy both.

And Barbarians to Bureaucrats.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 31, 2021 01:40 PM (JN3xP)

272 164

They have an entire webpage set up to trying to get people to spread propaganda on social media:

If you're on twitter you should have some fun...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - trust the science, not the experts at July 31, 2021 11:45 AM

This is my contribution: https://bit.ly/3C0Kye6

How about blood clots, myocarditis & death?

Are those normal signs the body is building protection too?

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at July 31, 2021 01:41 PM (Do5/p)

273 49 There are many problems with the CDC Barnstable study. One is willfully blindness. It never mentions Provincetown Cape Cod as the epicenter and the gay orgies going on. Calling it Barnstable County makes it sound suburban white bread. This is intentional. Shades of ignoring AIDS transmission

Making national policy from a single study with "issues" is another.

But do follow the science
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 31, 2021 10:53 AM (QJ9qw)

Was there a corresponding polio, diphtheria, or measles outbreak? I would say that those vaccines are much more effective than the covid shots. We do not talk about tens of thousands of supposedly rare breakthrough polio or measles infections among fully vaccinated people. I support the attempt, but do not think a vaccine that contains a single antigen from a virus worked very well. Back to the drawing board.

Posted by: WhyBanned at July 31, 2021 01:41 PM (YkawN)

274 243 CDC misled us about COVID for political reasons. They claimed the N95 respirators were not effective to avoid a run on them that would have shorted 1st responders.

But I thought N95's were only for dust particles and ineffective against Covid anyway
Posted by: JoeF. at July 31, 2021 12:38 PM (mR6Gs)

They are at least as effective as the vaccine.

Posted by: WhyBanned at July 31, 2021 01:50 PM (YkawN)

275 The whole thing is pretty much showing that the effort is backfiring, and badly, on Democrats, who are holding this de facto third impeachment of Trump to pin the blame on him for the riot and, presumably, find some way to keep him from running from office in 2024.

The voters aren't buying it, and the more they turn to sob-story theatre, the less the voters are willing to believe them, let alone take interest to watch.
_American Thinker

Posted by: Braenyard, Republican rout in '22, Trump for the finish in '24 at July 31, 2021 01:57 PM (hU6Zu)

276 shibumi at July 31, 2021 12:59 PM

I'm pretty sure that those micro-clots were a side effect of the virus before the vaccine, too.

Not surprising that the vaccine would have some side effects in common with the virus.

Posted by: KT at July 31, 2021 02:05 PM (BVQ+1)

277 one of these homesteading YouTube channels I watch at times ... the Dad got sick (Covid) and died in (?) Indonesia I think. The daughter said he had just gotten his second dose of vaccine a couple weeks before he died, but she thought "he must have gotten sick before that took effect".

OR ... the vaccine killed him? The officials lie constantly, so it is hard to tell ... anything.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 31, 2021 02:13 PM (Cus5s)

278 The CCP is sending paramilitary trainers to Cuba.

Posted by: Braenyard, Republican rout in '22, Trump for the finish in '24 at July 31, 2021 02:16 PM (hU6Zu)

279 The head of the anti-communist movement in Cuba, Luis Manuel Otero Alcántara, disappeared on July 11 and has not been seen since.

Posted by: Braenyard, Republican rout in '22, Trump for the finish in '24 at July 31, 2021 02:19 PM (hU6Zu)

280 via Ezra Lavant:

"That by vaccinating them, such risk is curtailed--the risk being primarily to adults. A society that contemplates putting children on the frontline of protecting adults, far less embarks on such a strategy, is a society not worth saving. If we don't put children, the young of the species, first above all others, frankly what's the point of anything? Leave the children alone. LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE."--Neil Oliver

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 31, 2021 02:22 PM (Ndje9)

281 Massachusetts is emerging as a key battleground in the U.S. fight over whether to phase out natural gas for home cooking and heating,

with fears of unknown costs and unfamiliar technologies fueling much of the opposition to going all-electric.

More towns around Boston are debating measures to block or limit the use of gas in new construction
_WSJ

Posted by: Braenyard, Republican rout in '22, Trump for the finish in '24 at July 31, 2021 02:26 PM (hU6Zu)

282 Thomas Lifson reads AoSHQ.
Ace receives a hat tip hyperlink.

https://is.gd/HV8mIV

Posted by: Braenyard, Republican rout in '22, Trump for the finish in '24 at July 31, 2021 02:31 PM (hU6Zu)

283 260 She blames an unvaccinated cousin, who does not seem to be sick.
Posted by: KT at July 31, 2021 12:56 PM (BVQ+1)

That got everyone thinking that anyone who is NOT sick is the one spreading this.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 31, 2021 12:58 PM (mR6Gs)


Like the 7 Stanford students, fully vaxxed, who popped positive even though asymptomatic?

The WaPo article yesterday cited CDC's own data that the fully vaxxed can be asymptomatic transmitters of the 'ro.

Posted by: kallisto at July 31, 2021 02:38 PM (DJFLF)

284 Ice worms emerge on Paradise Glacier, Mount Rainier, Washington.

https://is.gd/n3oJIp

Posted by: Braenyard, Republican rout in '22, Trump for the finish in '24 at July 31, 2021 02:55 PM (hU6Zu)

285 Crossfire Hurricane, happy anniversary.

Posted by: Braenyard, Republican rout in '22, Trump for the finish in '24 at July 31, 2021 03:00 PM (hU6Zu)

286 The CCP is sending paramilitary trainers to Cuba.
Posted by: Braenyard, Republican rout in '22, Trump for the finish in '24 at July 31, 2021 02:16 PM (hU6Zu)

Okay, Neocons who hated Trump, now's your chance to shine.
Max Boot? Frum? Liz Cheney??

Posted by: JoeF. at July 31, 2021 03:15 PM (mR6Gs)

287 Crossfire Hurricane...grown by Serene....hybrid.

Just like Brylcreem...little dab will do ya.

Act like Cheek n Chong..that means you are a glowie.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 31, 2021 03:59 PM (qoz/n)

288 Killing NG is cutting off your nose despite your face

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2021 04:07 PM (Cxk7w)

289 If you get what you pay for Spirit Airlines is a better deal. Delta charges too much to be treated like scum

Posted by: Minuteman at July 31, 2021 05:04 PM (LaNzR)

290 It remains unpossible to have coherent discussions in these threads.

People sit on whatever the most recent thread is, constantly hitting refresh and posting one-line bozosity, often at a rate of a comment every ten seconds or so. It is not humanly possible to read the comments, consider them, compose a relevant comment, post it, and still keep up with the other comments posted in the meantime. Anybody who has anything else to do with their life, and checks the site once a day or so, cannot participate in any sense, nor are their comments even noticed. The commenters who do participate are by definition of zero real-world productivity and therefore their comments are of zero value.

This is why Breitbart was wrong.

Posted by: rold at July 31, 2021 08:53 PM (Fntzm)

291 Re: Delta Airlines. This mirrors my experience of 25 years on Wall Street at Salomon Brothers, Smith-Barney and Nomura Securities.

Is is Managerialism and it is what happens when the owners of a business -- either an individual or shareholders - are unable to exert positive influence over the bureaucratic and administrative aspects of the business.

As the business grows and becomes more-complex, it calls into being a large number of specialists in a variety of fields. Primarily, the specialist group that always grows faster and larger than any other is the group which has the most contact with government.

These are the groups that oversee government relations and contracts, deal with government agencies like OSHA, the Civil Rights departments, finance and banking authorities, and all aspects of the legal system.

Eventually, they take over; eventually the business end cannot be run without interference or aid from government. The problem is these people are not business people; their job is to enforce compliance and hand down edicts. The business is literally choked by government edict washed through HR.

Posted by: Matt Noto at July 31, 2021 09:41 PM (ZaYq5)

292 Matt Noto at July 31, 2021 09:41 PM

Nicely stated.

Just saw photos from a Swiss friend's trip to a different canton. They tend to keep things local and simple there. There is a lot of life outside of business and government. It was a contrast.

Posted by: KT at August 01, 2021 08:27 AM (BVQ+1)

293 rold at July 31, 2021 08:53 PM

The "old thread" issue is a real one. Trolls are a big part of the problem. It does make it difficult for people who wish to think about the topics of a number of threads on a thoughtful basis at a single reading.

Wish I had a good solution.

Posted by: KT at August 01, 2021 05:20 PM (BVQ+1)

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