Buzzfeed: FBI Informants Initiated the "Plot to Kidnap Gretchen Whitmer." They Were So Central to the Plot It Raises the Question: Was This Always Just the FBI's Plot?

Buzzfeed doesn't put it quite so starkly; they ask if there would be a plot but for the FBI's ringleading of it.

But that's the same question.

This is not a "right wing plot."

This is an FBI plot.

And it's about time the ringleaders of the plot went to jail.

The real ringleaders.

The government has documented at least 12 confidential informants who assisted the sprawling investigation. The trove of evidence they helped gather provides an unprecedented view into American extremism, laying out in often stunning detail the ways that anti-government groups network with each other and, in some cases, discuss violent actions.

An examination of the case by BuzzFeed News also reveals that some of those informants, acting under the direction of the FBI, played a far larger role than has previously been reported. Working in secret, they did more than just passively observe and report on the actions of the suspects. Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.

A longtime government informant from Wisconsin, for example, helped organize a series of meetings around the country where many of the alleged plotters first met one another and the earliest notions of a plan took root, some of those people say. The Wisconsin informant even paid for some hotel rooms and food as an incentive to get people to come.

The Iraq War vet, for his part, became so deeply enmeshed in a Michigan militant group that he rose to become its second-in-command, encouraging members to collaborate with other potential suspects and paying for their transportation to meetings. He prodded the alleged mastermind of the kidnapping plot to advance his plan, then baited the trap that led to the arrest.

Andy McCarthy just loaded up the "Vouch For" template on Microsoft Word.

BTW, Neil Cavuto defended the lying Fauci as a "good man," criticized Republicans for questioning him.

Posted by: Ace at 07:27 PM




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1 Trump Inaugural Chairman arrested
Color me surprised

Posted by: Kurt at July 20, 2021 06:28 PM (xaTST)

2 That and the fraud probably cost Trump Michigan.

Gave sympathy to an incredibly unpopular scrunt.

Posted by: Blago at July 20, 2021 06:29 PM (wHcXZ)

3 Posted by: Kurt at July 20, 2021 06:28 PM (xaTST)

Oh, kurt. Nothing surprises us about the Commie Star Chamber folks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2021 06:31 PM (k39e/)

4 >The Wisconsin informant even paid for some hotel rooms and food as an incentive to get people to come.

Cartman types: "Punch and pie..."

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 20, 2021 06:31 PM (DXFDM)

5 The entire "White Nationalist Menace" is a fabrication.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at July 20, 2021 06:32 PM (AD14M)

6 I always thought it was a sketchy political indictment meant to reinforce the maskarens in charge.

Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2021 06:33 PM (LJ5b1)

7 Was This Always Just the FBI's Plot?
.......

Don't look at me.

Posted by: FBI "Special" Agent - Lego Division at July 20, 2021 06:33 PM (v0R5T)

8 Can't have a conspiracy without the FBI these days.

Good job, guys. You're keeping the country in a better place.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at July 20, 2021 06:34 PM (aXxgO)

9 "According to one informant, the militia group wanted to water-balloon Whitmer's limo but were persuaded otherwise by top men the FBI had infiltrate the group." - Implied by the article

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 20, 2021 06:34 PM (wbt9w)

10 Those chunked and formed hams in camo and Kevlar are right out of Lefty central casting.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 20, 2021 06:34 PM (Dc2NZ)

11 Weird. Just this morning I was thinking about the leak that implied the FBI's mission is to be *perceived* as winning the war on ___ .

Looks like their culture is: if we can't find a crime to bust, we will commit the crime ourselves and arrest anyone we can turn into accomplices.

Hey FBI Lurkers, how is it that you haven't eaten a shotgun by now? Have you become so corrupted that you've lost your sense of shame? SMH. There was a time I would have taken a bullet for you, now all I'm interested in is identifying your soft spots. GFY.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 06:35 PM (49Exr)

12 Neil is afraid Fauci will withhold his fucking meds.

Posted by: sven at July 20, 2021 06:35 PM (Lzpvj)

13 I am so pleased these fine, upstanding, people got to play out their fantasies on the taxpayer dime.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 20, 2021 06:35 PM (TNyrE)

14 I am starting to think this fbi is not 100% kosher

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2021 06:35 PM (Irn0L)

15 That it was Whitmer was just too on the nose.

And yet these guys are in jail and they will pay the price even if eventually acquitted

Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2021 06:36 PM (LJ5b1)

16 So if someone suggests you do something stupid or criminal you can assume he's an FBI agent.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 06:36 PM (cSyAR)

17 I know Ace doesn't hold us to the 100-post rule, but this still feels a bit rude. However, I wanted to mention this before I forget. The situation in South Africa was mentioned, and if you haven't followed...wow, is it bad. Like full on zombie apocalypse bad. Watch the Memology 101 video to get an idea:
https://youtu.be/ggALsjUXZKk

I mean, they're looting farms of chickens and goats, and there's a queue that looks like a mile long to get groceries. Shit is rekt. Might want to think about how this might apply to our own situation.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 20, 2021 06:37 PM (DXFDM)

18 I'm honestly more surprised that Trump workers HAVEN'T all been arrested.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because we needed another holiday celebrating white people being badass at July 20, 2021 06:37 PM (iDOL8)

19 "The trove of evidence they helped gather provides an unprecedented view into American extremism by the FBI itself, laying out in often stunning detail the ways that anti-government groups network..."

They accidently edited that part out I guess.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at July 20, 2021 06:38 PM (aXxgO)

20 Ahoy, Uncle Kurt!

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at July 20, 2021 06:38 PM (W4eKo)

21 Neil would be much happier if he just stop the pretext of being some sort of journalistic-like substance and apply for one of those vacated positions at the Lincoln Log Project.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 20, 2021 06:38 PM (TNyrE)

22 And now the primary fib agent on the case is charged with felony dv.


Posted by: I mean at July 20, 2021 06:38 PM (ynUFw)

23 FBI = Felonious Bastard Instigators.

They're behind just about every major "terrorist" incident, including the jihadi shit. FBI informants put 'em up to.

Now, there's one big one. That Las Vegas shooting. What was the FBI doing there?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (Mzdiz)

24 The lead FBI agent in the Whitmer case was arrested last week on felony charges of domestic violence. Story was in yesterday Detroit News or Free press.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (uPVWr)

25 Neil Cavuto's gone Shep!?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)

26 "FBI Informants Initiated the Plot"

Is there not enough crime already that they have to go around making more? This is like the firefighter who starts fires so he can put them out.

Posted by: f'd at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (Tnijr)

27 Weren't something like eight of the thirteen Feds?? I'm sure it was several at least not including the wife-beater.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (UHVv4)

28 I really used to like Andy McCarthy. I'd read everything he wrote about Russia gate with glee and anticipation.... I'd think "we got 'em this time!"

I also really believed that the blue dress was going to be the downfall of Bill Clinton.

My eyes have been opened these past few years, and it seems to have accelerated. Unfortunately, whenever I stop to think about what it really means and portends I still can't let myself grow it all. Jeezum we're fucked.

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 06:40 PM (U1eOr)

29 You know it was the FBI's own plot because they actually caught someone.

Except for the Parachute B List Actress Mom Caper, I can't think of any other case where they did.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 06:40 PM (eoQWY)

30 @26 well there certainly are not enough white supremacist plots so they have to make those up

Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2021 06:40 PM (LJ5b1)

31 Neil Cavuto's gone Shep!?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)
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Never go full Shep, man.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 20, 2021 06:40 PM (7CyHK)

32 1 Trump Inaugural Chairman arrested
Color me surprised
Posted by: Kurt

you will be when what goes around comes around

Posted by: x at July 20, 2021 06:40 PM (oA+QO)

33 Doh! Right in the first line "twelve informants".

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 20, 2021 06:41 PM (UHVv4)

34 Re #28: not grow... grok

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 06:41 PM (U1eOr)

35 It isn't entrapment when the FIB does it, citing the "because, shut up" clause of the Constitution.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 20, 2021 06:41 PM (gpKIi)

36 None of this suprises me. A LEO that would try to subvert the POTUS, or immolate women and children is capable of anything.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2021 06:41 PM (UPBDE)

37 Weren't something like eight of the thirteen Feds?? I'm sure it was several at least not including the wife-beater.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (UHVv4)

There's a scene in "Bill the Galactic Hero" where everyone in a plot against the government but one guy are paid informants, including Bill.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 06:41 PM (eoQWY)

38 5 The entire "White Nationalist Menace" is a fabrication.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at July 20, 2021 06:32 PM (AD14M)

And after all the BLM and Antifa crap, which went on for a couple of years, they get a guilty verdict on a the FELONY charge of carrying a Trump Flag in the Capital on Jan 6.

Guy will do 18 months for 'Obstructing Congress'... and I believe its the FIRST time anyone has been convicted under that statute.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 20, 2021 06:41 PM (oHd/0)

39 Chain them to the floor and burn the fucking Hoover bldg down.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 20, 2021 06:41 PM (X2GY+)

40

Posted by: Nevergiveup
Sir, we are super-kosher and are now tapping your phones.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 20, 2021 06:42 PM (wbt9w)

41
Next we'll learn that people who never heard about the plot were signed up without their knowledge or consent.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 20, 2021 06:42 PM (2mlpS)

42 Trump Inaugural Chairman arrested
Color me surprised
Posted by: Kurt

you will be when what goes around comes around
Posted by: x at July 20, 2021 06:40 PM (oA+QO)

That will teach party planners everywhere a lesson.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 06:42 PM (eoQWY)

43 I saw Fatboy Chonkers open for Fat Larry's Band at the Popcorn Club in '79.

There was a lot of food served.

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at July 20, 2021 06:42 PM (HK8/E)

44 Of course it was.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we're not doing hash-in-nic anymore? (T/XHv) at July 20, 2021 06:42 PM (T/XHv)

45 Ace: "Andy McCarthy just loaded up the 'Vouch For' template on Microsoft Word."

Kudos for pounding that pudding-head into even mushier pudding.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 20, 2021 06:42 PM (aXxgO)

46 One misguided loon an 27 FIB agents devise a plot. Ask Abdullah how that works.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2021 06:42 PM (n2WF9)

47 Mass retirement is looking better every day.

Posted by: FBI Public Relations Dept at July 20, 2021 06:42 PM (sWM8x)

48 16 So if someone suggests you do something stupid or criminal you can assume he's an FBI agent.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 06:36 PM (cSyAR)

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If this happens to me, I'll make sure to fervently disagree with what has been suggested with a nod of the head and an emphatic double wink of an eye.

That will probably be enough for them to respond with "On second thought, nevermind."

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 20, 2021 06:43 PM (TNyrE)

49 Guy will do 18 months for 'Obstructing Congress'... and I believe its the FIRST time anyone has been convicted under that statute.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 20,

8 months.

Posted by: I mean at July 20, 2021 06:43 PM (ynUFw)

50 17 I know Ace doesn't hold us to the 100-post rule, but this still feels a bit rude. However, I wanted to mention this before I forget. The situation in South Africa was mentioned, and if you haven't followed...wow, is it bad. Like full on zombie apocalypse bad. Watch the Memology 101 video to get an idea:
https://youtu.be/ggALsjUXZKk

I mean, they're looting farms of chickens and goats, and there's a queue that looks like a mile long to get groceries. Shit is rekt. Might want to think about how this might apply to our own situation.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 20, 2021 06:37 PM (DXFDM)

shit got real there. no reason to think it won't get real here too.

Posted by: x at July 20, 2021 06:43 PM (oA+QO)

51 31 Neil Cavuto's gone Shep!?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)
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Never go full Shep, man.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 20, 2021 06:40 PM (7CyHK)

Goes right along with the article today that talked about how the White House has been in constant contact with Fox News about how they cover the Covids.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 20, 2021 06:43 PM (oHd/0)

52 Dis anyone read Schlichter's article about what comes next? The strongman who replaces Trump for conservatives? It gave me hope... but whoever it is has a whole shit-ton of establishment to overcome.

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 06:43 PM (U1eOr)

53 I for one miss the good old days when the FBI was planting reefers on jazz musicians, and keeping the world safe from the scourge of MLK and John Lennon...

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 06:43 PM (Bmy3R)

54 Criminal activity would plunge if the FBI were to be disbanded.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 06:43 PM (cSyAR)

55 The FBI have always been the ringleaders. Sheesh, still at it after all these years

Posted by: Zeera Hunkering down here, Boss at July 20, 2021 06:44 PM (0pv1a)

56 "FBI Informants Initiated the Plot"

Is there not enough crime already that they have to go around making more? This is like the firefighter who starts fires so he can put them out.
Posted by: f'd at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (Tnijr)

I remember a true crimes story that in SoCal a fire commisioner was setting fires, they got onto him when he wrote a book about a firebug.

After arresting him 'spontaneous' fires in the area dropped some 90 pct.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 06:44 PM (eoQWY)

57 Fuck, I just know those wingers are up to no good. We just aren't finding anything. Maybe they just need a little nudge.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 20, 2021 06:44 PM (gpKIi)

58 I know that kidnap plot was bull crap when the would-be perps were driving a PT Cruiser. LOL!

Posted by: Jmel at July 20, 2021 06:44 PM (aXf8p)

59 shit got real there. no reason to think it won't get real here too.
Posted by: x at July 20, 2021 06:43 PM (oA+QO)

Almost every Revolution (except the US Revolution) started right after a huge rise in food prices, either due to drought or poor financial management (French Rev).

Note, Steak prices are now $16 a Lbs here, were less than $10 just a few months ago.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 20, 2021 06:45 PM (oHd/0)

60 Jan 6 plot, this plot. Who knows how many others. But the FBI is for the people, yo!

Posted by: Mookie at July 20, 2021 06:45 PM (u+Y3T)

61 It's the 99% of rotten apples making the 1% of squeaky clean agents look bad again.

Posted by: Dr. Feelgood at July 20, 2021 06:45 PM (JPtHE)

62 As the saying goes, how do you pick out the FBI informant in your group?

He's the first one to suggest violence and illegal shit.

The LE/IC apparatus needs to be neutered, they've gone mad.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2021 06:45 PM (mu7kg)

63 Somehow I doubt anyone will say: Guilty as hell; free as a bird.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Orwell Was An Optimist T-Shirts 30% Off! at July 20, 2021 06:45 PM (s+u6b)

64 I'm going to make a weekend project out of going back and reading *all* of Glenn Greenwald's old articles pertaining to the US intelligence agencies.

I bashed him then. I bet I was very wrong.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 06:45 PM (Bmy3R)

65 So the FBI are hype men for domestic terrorism.

I like* this particular variation of guiding them to the crime you want for propaganda purposes.

I am not even sure I can think of a precedent outside of the US. The NKVD or Cheka just arrested people suspected of being dissidents (or just met their quota.)

*'like' is sarcasm.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (LYEvi)

66 They're behind just about every major "terrorist" incident, including the jihadi shit. FBI informants put 'em up to.

Now, there's one big one. That Las Vegas shooting. What was the FBI doing there?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (Mzdiz)

Certainly not finding out why the guy did it - or if they did, telling the public.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (eoQWY)

67 Andy McCarthy last seen screaming "Heretics"

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (n2WF9)

68 Starting to think the January 6 set up was a FBI informer gig.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (Cxk7w)

69

Did that witch call this one in?

Would not surprise me in the least. She was trying to shore up her support, and she's just a terrible person.

She always brags about being a shark...

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (NuVOb)

70 64 I'm going to make a weekend project out of going back and reading *all* of Glenn Greenwald's old articles pertaining to the US intelligence agencies.

I bashed him then. I bet I was very wrong.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 06:45 PM (Bmy3R)

Introspection is a handy thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (LYEvi)

71 59 Note, Steak prices are now $16 a Lbs here, were less than $10 just a few months ago.


Makes me glad I locked in a side of beef at $7.99, all-in.

Posted by: Mookie at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (u+Y3T)

72 Hey, does anyone here have the skills to make a sawed off shotgun?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not an FBI informant at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (gpKIi)

73 >>>37 Weren't something like eight of the thirteen Feds?? I'm sure it was several at least not including the wife-beater.


12 of the 18.

There were 12 FBI employees to entrap six.

Posted by: ace at July 20, 2021 06:47 PM (0G13K)

74
Speaking of shit hitting the fan, Denninger in his latest main Market Ticker post is saying "get out on the bounce", 'cause it's going to soon go downhill.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 06:47 PM (Mzdiz)

75 64 I'm going to make a weekend project out of going back and reading *all* of Glenn Greenwald's old articles pertaining to the US intelligence agencies.

I bashed him then. I bet I was very wrong.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 06:45 PM (Bmy3R)

Yeah, I got blasted on here a lot for saying that you may want to actually LISTEN to what Eric Snowden was saying.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 20, 2021 06:47 PM (oHd/0)

76 Hell, the Romans were even more straightforward. If Crassus wanted a guy's property during Sulla's reign, he just put the names on the proscription lists- he did not go through the trouble of entrapping the accused in a plot against the dictator.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 06:47 PM (LYEvi)

77 How does it go
What do you call a dozen KKK group gathering?
2 White Supremacists and 10 FBI informants

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2021 06:48 PM (Cxk7w)

78 Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it!

I think every farmer around here has a shotgun or an AR-15. One outside Topeka killed a trespasser several years ago. No charges.

People at the range are very focused.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 06:48 PM (u82oZ)

79 Just out of curiosity-Did the MI legislature do anything to curb Witchmer's executive power?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2021 06:48 PM (k39e/)

80 68 Starting to think the January 6 set up was a FBI informer gig.
Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (Cxk7w)

Isnt one of the guys urging people to storm the castle free as a bird?

Posted by: a dude in MI at July 20, 2021 06:48 PM (+I6Y/)

81 Posted by: Kurt at July 20, 2021 06:28 PM (xaTST)

Oh, kurt. Nothing surprises us about the Commie Star Chamber folks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2021 06:31 PM (k39e/)

Being surprised at that is a lifetime's hard work.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 06:48 PM (eoQWY)

82 Trolls getting first is just WRONG

Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2021 06:48 PM (uUDKV)

83 72 Hey, does anyone here have the skills to make a sawed off shotgun?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not an FBI informant at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (gpKIi)

Lol. I actually took that seriously for a second.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 06:49 PM (LYEvi)

84
Yes, Glenn Greenwald was right (he's still very much anti-Israel/pro-Pali, which infuriates me, but at this point, I overlook it).

If there is every Restoration of the Old Republic, there should be statues of Edward Snowden and Julian Assange put up in D.C.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 06:49 PM (Mzdiz)

85 You in the FBI bro?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 06:49 PM (cSyAR)

86 Well, if they weren't up to no good, they would have told the informants to pound sand! The fact that they participated shows they were bad people and the FIB are heroes for taking those terrorists off the streets!
-Twitteratti i am sure.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not an FBI informant at July 20, 2021 06:49 PM (gpKIi)

87 Cat Ass, some skin head fibbee will be along shortly to answer that.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2021 06:50 PM (n2WF9)

88 This reminds me of the old jokes about the IRA in the UK.

That every IRA 3 man cell was two MI6 agents and one drunk wanker that just liked to talk shit.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at July 20, 2021 06:50 PM (52QgA)

89 Isnt one of the guys urging people to storm the castle free as a bird?
Posted by: a dude in MI at July 20, 2021 06:48 PM (+I6Y/)

AFAIK ALL of the BLM people identified in the crowds on 1/6 are free and clear.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 06:50 PM (LYEvi)

90 So, what's the best accelerant to use if you want to burn down a building?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel And DefinitelyNotFBI at July 20, 2021 06:50 PM (aXxgO)

91 Weren't something like eight of the thirteen Feds?? I'm sure it was several at least not including the wife-beater.


12 of the 18.

There were 12 FBI employees to entrap six.

Posted by: ace at July 20, 2021 06:47 PM (0G13K)

Good thing no bad actor would think having 20 guys in his gang would make him move forward more than the 1 or 2 he had when the FBI started doing the organizing for him.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 06:50 PM (eoQWY)

92 I like Viva Frei but cannot handle his Montreal accent.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2021 06:51 PM (OeQ/D)

93 79 Just out of curiosity-Did the MI legislature do anything to curb Witchmer's executive power?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2021 06:48 PM (k39e/)

Yes

The state Senate's 20-15 vote along partisan lines came two days after the Board of State Canvassers certified Unlock Michigan's petition drive to repeal the 1945 law Whitmer used to maintain a state of emergency and lockdown past 28 days without the Legislature's input. The petition received about 460,000 valid signatures, which was far more than the approximately 340,000 that were needed.

Because it resulted from a petition drive, Whitmer would not be allowed to veto the repeal if the Republican-led House also approves it, as it's expected to do.

Posted by: a dude in MI at July 20, 2021 06:51 PM (+I6Y/)

94 We could never have a revolution in this country because you couldn't trust the fucker next to you.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 20, 2021 06:51 PM (xPl2J)

95 Now, there's one big one. That Las Vegas shooting. What was the FBI doing there?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion

Shooting.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 20, 2021 06:51 PM (OssQ4)

96 steevy

Did he lie? He was polite for once. The Un-polite ones seem to vanish.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 06:51 PM (u82oZ)

97 yeah, there are a half dozen glowies in instapundit's comments

Posted by: x at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (oA+QO)

98 90 So, what's the best accelerant to use if you want to burn down a building?
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel And DefinitelyNotFBI at July 20, 2021 06:50 PM (aXxgO)

I have heard Boones Farm Strawberry does the trick.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, not talking about burning down buildings but other types at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (LYEvi)

99 There were 12 FBI employees to entrap six.

**

Who wanted to throw water balloons at a car until the FBI could convince them to agree with the FBI that it wasn't adequate.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (RDD2k)

100 I posted a link to Lauren Southern on You Tube, in the last thread. There were some interesting things that the guy she interviewed pointed out. The first is that SA is a third world country after all. These stores are the only way for people in the towns to get food. They don't want to see them looted and shut down. Two is that the ANC has a LOT of weapons that went missing along with dreamy amounts of ammo. That likely went to the criminals now looting the cities. Made me think about all those guns and ammo that the Obama admin stockpiled for government agencies.

And he also said it's unlikely this can be stopped as long as the ANC is in power.They are totally corrupt.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (5HBd1)

101 Except for the Parachute B List Actress Mom Caper, I can't think of any other case where they did.
Posted by: Oldcat

Well they got their ......um....woman, then woman, then everyone at the end of Clue!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (Vxu+H)

102
Just out of curiosity-Did the MI legislature do anything to curb Witchmer's executive power?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2021 06:48 PM


the GOPe controlled legislature issues a sternly worded letter; te state supreme court declared her actions un-constitutional

Obergruppenfuhrer Whitmer ignored them both & doubled down

the GOPe took to the floor of the senate and issued a forceful "harrumph" then promptly recessed & went out for drinks

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (DUIap)

103 Another look at 9/11? Or are 20 years plus decades more of documented declassified patterned behaviors and actions still not long enough?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (UbZfU)

104 a dude in MI: "Isnt one of the guys urging people to storm the castle free as a bird?"

One of the myriad "Unindicted Coconspirators".

AKA FBI apparently.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (aXxgO)

105
90 So, what's the best accelerant to use if you want to burn down a building?
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel And DefinitelyNotFBI at July 20, 2021 06:50 PM (aXxgO)

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Hang a Trump 2024 banner on it.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (2mlpS)

106 For the "inside job" angle of 1-6, the FBI would be a good fit. For whatever reason the Capitol cops didn't sound right to me who knows nothing special.

Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (r4sI4)

107 Trump's friend was probably outed by one of the many unregistered agents for Qatar.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not an FBI informant at July 20, 2021 06:53 PM (gpKIi)

108 Cavuto is a fat middle hole.

Posted by: LASue at July 20, 2021 06:53 PM (Ed8Zd)

109 So Chonkers Cavuto thinks Fauci is a good man, huh?

Good for quietly funding illegal 'gain of function' development of bat-covid viruses? Good for partnering w/America's enemy CHYNA for this illegal Frankenvirus creation? Good for lying about it when it -- oopsie! -- escaped the crappy Wuhan lab? Good for changing his tune on masks, schools opening, lockdowns, social contact, etc. every other week. . .?


Gee, Chonkers, where can we find more "good" men like that to f$ck up our lives and tank the economy some more?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2021 06:53 PM (bDqIh)

110 Just out of curiosity-Did the MI legislature do anything to curb Witchmer's executive power?

Nope - and a Republican Majority.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 06:54 PM (dfpIc)

111 I have posted this before. I have had my phone tapped. A friend, yes he is still a friend, made a comment about the life of gov't official. My phone was tapped for a year.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2021 06:54 PM (n2WF9)

112 Schlicters point about the next strongman is that the establishment is not going to matter

Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2021 06:54 PM (LJ5b1)

113 Posted by: a dude in MI at July 20, 2021 06:51 PM (+I6Y/)

Thanks for the info. I am glad to hear it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2021 06:54 PM (k39e/)

114 90 So, what's the best accelerant to use if you want to burn down a building?
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel And DefinitelyNotFBI at July 20, 2021 06:50 PM (aXxgO)

Termites. The stealth oxidation.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 06:55 PM (u82oZ)

115 And he also said it's unlikely this can be stopped as long as the ANC is in power.They are totally corrupt.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward

Best not mention who ran ops to put them in power back in the 90's. We should definitely not notice certain patterns.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 20, 2021 06:55 PM (UbZfU)

116 For the "inside job" angle of 1-6, the FBI would be a good fit. For whatever reason the Capitol cops didn't sound right to me who knows nothing special.
Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (r4sI4)

Capitol Police might be useful as under jurisdiction of Congress.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 06:55 PM (eoQWY)

117
Yep, unindicted co-conspirator now means "govt. agent/informant". There are a lot of 'em out there.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 06:56 PM (Mzdiz)

118 Termites. The stealth oxidation.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 06:55 PM (u82oZ)

Not very quick, NaCLy. 'Sure thing' maybe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 06:56 PM (LYEvi)

119 I'm gonna need a bigger boat.

Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 06:56 PM (In5Sq)

120 Now that we're past 100, I can link this documentary on the 1984 LA Olympics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPbtZ5kyN0E

TCM showed a bunch of docs on the Olympics and I really enjoyed some of them: 1948 London, 1956 Cortina Italy, 1972 Munich.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 20, 2021 06:57 PM (Dc2NZ)

121 119 I'm gonna need a bigger boat.
Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 06:56 PM (In5Sq)

Too much money or metaphor?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 06:57 PM (LYEvi)

122 So, what's the best accelerant to use if you want to burn down a building?

Ain't one. Not in modern construction. You can't burn down a modern building. You can mix diesel, gas, and packing peanuts to make a long-burning stink to move the people. That's about it.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 06:57 PM (dfpIc)

123 9/11? Thanks to the web, the Lusitania is still a hot topic.

Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2021 06:57 PM (r4sI4)

124 Next Ace will be telling us there's no such thing as Ham and Eggers.

Posted by: FBI at July 20, 2021 06:57 PM (v0R5T)

125 LMAO

@KwiBer
Back in my day the conservative party used to stand for something. We had fierce women like Lady MAGA and Caitlyn Jenner and Brandi Love. Now all the GOP wants to talk about is should we accept AI powered six dicked aborted baby/goat hybrid monsters and I just don't know

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 20, 2021 06:58 PM (MSyE6)

126 I used to think Assange and Snowden were bad guys. I bought the lies.

Those days are gone. Forever.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 20, 2021 06:58 PM (Ndje9)

127 So, what's the best accelerant to use if you want to burn down a building?
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel And DefinitelyNotFBI at July 20, 2021 06:50 PM (aXxgO)
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Hang a Trump 2024 banner on it.
******

Threadwinner.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 06:58 PM (RDD2k)

128 I'm gonna need a bigger boat.

Ahoy!

Posted by: Little Admiral Kristol at July 20, 2021 06:58 PM (W4eKo)

129 My talented and smart son told me the other day that he used to be interested in the alphabet agencies, and hed be hired in a flash, but he no longer respects them and could never work for people like them.

Efram zimbalist jr shed a tear.

Posted by: LASue at July 20, 2021 06:58 PM (Ed8Zd)

130 Those dweeby Antifa dudes doing fitness training in the mountains were probably all FBI agents.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 06:58 PM (cSyAR)

131 LMAO
Lolololol

Replying to
@KwiBer
Listen we haven't won an election since the Pandemic twenty years ago, did you see the Brian Kilmeade show last night? He made a good point that we're going to have start appealing to the beastiality demographic if we want to take back the senate. No just non violent ones

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (MSyE6)

132 >>12 of the 18.
There were 12 FBI employees to entrap six.


Was it a kidnap plot or an FBI after work happy hour that a couple of shmos stumbled into?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (bDqIh)

133 54 Criminal activity would plunge if the FBI were to be disbanded.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker



We can't disband the FBI. There'd be nobody left in the neoNazi movement and the KKK.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (QFVV9)

134 68 Starting to think the January 6 set up was a FBI informer gig.
Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2021 06:46 PM (Cxk7w)


STARTING TO?!?!?!?!?

I've thought all along that was an infiltration by either the Feds, Antifa, or both.

Especially after seeing the footage from the guy who was inside the Capitol Building whose lady acquaintance (coming from another part of the building) told him, "Xxxx said that this would work, but I didn't think we could get it done!", and he said, "I told you it would work!"

And then he assured her that he was going to be sure and erase xxxx's name from their conversation before uploading the clip onto the Internet.

Of course, that clip was Hoovered up not long after that....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (SRRAx)

135 I used to think Assange and Snowden were bad guys. I bought the lies.

Those days are gone. Forever.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 20, 2021 06:58 PM (Ndje9)

I'm not sure they are good guys. But I never thought they were lying.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (eoQWY)

136 How do you spaces between comments without getting it rejected by pixy?

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (YDiuS)

137 The sawed off shotgun thing was a reference to Ruby Ridge. A fed informant talked him into making sawed off shotguns, then they raided him and shot his wife in the face for making sawed off shotguns.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not an FBI informant at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (gpKIi)

138 My phone was tapped for a year.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2021 06:54 PM (n2WF9)

Sorry to hear that. Hope thy learned some things about farming and ranching from tuning in.

If my phone is tapped it would be: "Here is a Bible study you could do for Seniors at the assisted living" or
"I'm sorry you're calling off the luncheon for the two other 94 year old church members because they're not feeling well. I hope they feel better soon and I will pray.

Riveting stuff for the Fibbies

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (k39e/)

139 Aetius451AD Work Laptop

Slow but sure. And fixing the problem costs money as well.

Plus, no termite is an FBI agent. They leave that to the cockroaches.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (u82oZ)

140 Dis anyone read Schlichter's article about what comes next? The strongman who replaces Trump for conservatives? It gave me hope... but whoever it is has a whole shit-ton of establishment to overcome.

I have accepted that we have become a post-Constitutional, two-tiered justice society. If - IF - we get a strongman, then I don't want to hear anything about "constitutional norms" or "rule of law" or "precedent."

I want a full-on, Night of the Long Knives purge of the left. I want Air Pinochet, Ceaucescu Gun Shop, Hussein Plastic Shredder purge. I want our guy to be so ruthless that Zombie Reinhard Heydrich would say, "woah! Ease up, dude!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (2JVJo)

141 So, what's the best accelerant to use if you want to burn down a building?
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel And DefinitelyNotFBI at July 20, 2021 06:50 PM


Oxidane.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (a3Q+t)

142 All right wing "plots" are FBI/ATF ops. ....
.... Randy Weaver

Posted by: Cosda at July 20, 2021 07:00 PM (sIDD+)

143 Indicted for stuff the Podestas do every day before breakfast.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 20, 2021 07:00 PM (Ndje9)

144 Good! Infiltrate all these insurrectionist and seditionist groups. All their communications should be monitored too!

Posted by: carley at July 20, 2021 07:00 PM (RBhS4)

145 I remember when the FBI busted those people that were running unpasteurized milk or something in Ohio.

Posted by: pawn at July 20, 2021 07:00 PM (OVGnc)

146 Your head looks lovely on that pike, Mrs. Whitmer

Posted by: Eddie Haskell at July 20, 2021 07:00 PM (QzkSJ)

147 We can't disband the FBI. There'd be nobody left in the neoNazi movement and the KKK.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (QFVV9)

Just prosecute them as being in the KKK and neoNazi groups. Sorry, judge, no record of them being in the FBI....

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:00 PM (eoQWY)

148 Did Jeff Bezos really go into space in a dildo?

Posted by: Alabama at July 20, 2021 07:00 PM (Zv2q6)

149 A mushroom headed dildo

Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2021 07:01 PM (uUDKV)

150 Is there a Lego division in the FBI?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 07:01 PM (cSyAR)

151 re: sidebar

Is mentioning 'Trump' like a shamanistic thing for these guys? I kind of wonder what the metrics are. Is it worth a certain amount of clicks? Like Howard Stern, the pro click for their reasons and those against click for their reasons.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 07:01 PM (LYEvi)

152 Iron Eyes Zimbalist Jr.

Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2021 07:01 PM (r4sI4)

153 >>>The trove of evidence they helped gather provides an unprecedented view into American extremism . . . .

You asked for American Extremism, Theo? I give you the F-B-I.

Posted by: flounder at July 20, 2021 07:01 PM (KnJdm)

154 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

I'm on board. I want the Soviet Red Army from Berlin '45 to say "Whoa, dudes. That's harsh."

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 07:02 PM (u82oZ)

155 My talented and smart son told me the other day that he used to be interested in the alphabet agencies, and hed be hired in a flash, but he no longer respects them and could never work for people like them.

Efram zimbalist jr shed a tear.
Posted by: LASue at July 20, 2021 06:58 PM (Ed8Zd)

Efram in Remington Steele >>>> Efram in FBI

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:02 PM (eoQWY)

156 If not for Two-Tiered Justice, they'd have Three-Tiered Justice.

And Four.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 20, 2021 07:02 PM (Ndje9)

157 Dis anyone read Schlichter's article about what comes next? The strongman who replaces Trump for conservatives? It gave me hope... but whoever it is has a whole shit-ton of establishment to overcome.

***

There's also another "what comes next", unfortunately.

https://cutt.ly/4boPLTW

"1994 genocide in Rwanda. This followed the well documented model. Demonize a class of people. Then disarm them. Finally, herd them together under a blanket of lies, and kill them all."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:02 PM (RDD2k)

158 *shocked face*

Seriously, though, no one is shocked by this. I believe significant parts of the non Conservative Inc. Right said this is what would turn out to have happened when the arrests were first announced.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 20, 2021 07:02 PM (GbPPJ)

159 And then there's always:

"You left your wallet at home (FenSon). I will have to bring it to you so you don't drive without it."

I hope they're looking at porn while tapping my phone. It would be more interesting for them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2021 07:02 PM (k39e/)

160 Bruce Jenner, outwardly super straight! Wow, this is old.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 20, 2021 07:02 PM (Dc2NZ)

161 I remember when the FBI busted those people that were running unpasteurized milk or something in Ohio.
Posted by: pawn at July 20, 2021 07:00 PM (OVGnc)

How many infiltrated as dairy cows?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (eoQWY)

162 "1994 genocide in Rwanda. This followed the well documented model. Demonize a class of people. Then disarm them. Finally, herd them together under a blanket of lies, and kill them all."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:02 PM (RDD2k)


'Disarm'.

Good luck.

Posted by: Alabama at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (Zv2q6)

163 Your head looks lovely on that pike, Mrs. Whitmer

She's going to win re-election in a landslide. I still stand by that prediction.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (2JVJo)

164
From the sidebar:

"[Dr. Anthony Fauci] is a very, very excellent individual."

I've seen no evidence for this statement.

I've seen plenty for him being an elderly bureaucrat with a reedy, gay little voice, who likes to frequent bath-houses. By his own admission.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (JN3xP)

165 I remember when the FBI busted those people that were running unpasteurized milk or something in Ohio.

**

And wealthy people that were making donations to colleges so that their kids would be accepted to the school.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (RDD2k)

166 136 How do you spaces between comments without getting it rejected by pixy?
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (YDiuS)

The way I do it: write what you want. As long as you do not get TOO excessive, you will not get rejected on sheer length.

Carriage returns are the problem. So, write it the way you want, then when/if it gets rejected, go back and remove spaces on stuff you can afford to. Keep hitting post to check. If removing all the spaces you can does not work, try breaking it up into two comments.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (LYEvi)

167 FBI Informants Initiated the "Plot to Kidnap Gretchen Whitmer." They Were So Central to the Plot It Raises the Question: Was This Always Just the FBI's Plot?

Now do the Capitol.

#ReleaseTheJan.5thRehearsalTapes!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (Ndje9)

168 Now, there's one big one. That Las Vegas shooting. What was the FBI doing there?
Posted by: publius


Acting as spotters?

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 20, 2021 07:04 PM (oDkRR)

169 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

We can save Western Civilization if we are the First Movers. But alas. Not happening.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 07:04 PM (u82oZ)

170 The FBI was certainly on the bit when they tracked down Aunt Becky.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 07:04 PM (cSyAR)

171 I take it every one of the Antifa actual window breakers on January 6 are free.
The supposed pipe bomb planters are not known or anyone charged.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2021 07:04 PM (Cxk7w)

172 Re: South Africa...why, it's almost like handing a country and its government over to incompetent race-hustling Marxists always ends in tears. Good thing America is stocked with great, effective leaders like Biden and Lightfoot.

Posted by: CppThis at July 20, 2021 07:04 PM (8h1h1)

173 Accelerants, modern buildings. I've heard that you can fill the sprinkler system with kerosene. That ought to work.

Posted by: pawn at July 20, 2021 07:04 PM (PhAkB)

174 The sawed off shotgun thing was a reference to Ruby Ridge. A fed informant talked him into making sawed off shotguns, then they raided him and shot his wife in the face for making sawed off shotguns.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not an FBI informant at July 20, 2021 06:59 PM (gpKIi)

They wanted to shoot the wife first. They had the idea she was the 'ringleader'. She was holding her small child at the time.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:05 PM (eoQWY)

175 Did Jeff Bezos really go into space in a dildo?

It was a Prime dildo.

Posted by: Little Admiral Kristol at July 20, 2021 07:05 PM (W4eKo)

176 'Disarm'.

Good luck.
Posted by: Alabama at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (Zv2q6)

***

That article is long but well worth the read.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:05 PM (RDD2k)

177 "How do you spaces between comments without getting it rejected by pixy? "


Hold your tongue like this...








Posted by: f'd at July 20, 2021 07:05 PM (Tnijr)

178 That Las Vegas shooting.

Targeted C&W fans. "Not our type." -- FBI.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 07:05 PM (u82oZ)

179 There's also another "what comes next", unfortunately
Another weakness of Conservatism. Conservatism - as preached here - is just Classical Liberalism, mixed with some Patriotism and a lot of "Fucking shut up, I loved the 80s !!!".
What comes next is dictated by who is in charge. You wanna' have a say in what come's next ? Then win.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 07:05 PM (dfpIc)

180 RE accelerants: Some of these answers sound rather... legitimate. I don't really have a building to burn down. I mean, how does one define "building"? That could be anything.

But keep these suggestions coming. It's just between you and me. I'll even strike through your name in my notes so no one will ever know.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel And DefinitelyNotFBI at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (aXxgO)

181 I'm just saying Fauci's a faggot. And a no-account grifter. That's all.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (JN3xP)

182 >>She's going to win re-election in a landslide. I still stand by that prediction. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (2JVJo)

Our track record is, alas, solid.

Posted by: ZOD at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (xK9An)

183 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: ZOD at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (xK9An)

184 Emily Prentiss would like Derek Morgan to shoot you.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (n2WF9)

185 Bezos went to space. It's a shame he wasn't blasted by Vulcans from the future in order to save humanity....

Posted by: Mookie at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (u+Y3T)

186 And wealthy people that were making donations to colleges so that their kids would be accepted to the school.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (RDD2k)

No not wealthy people. Kinda wealthy people, B list actors. The really wealthy, or A list actors do that stuff all the time and will never be arrested for it. Just these upstarts.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (eoQWY)

187 That article is long but well worth the read.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:05 PM (RDD2k)


Link? I can't find your post

Posted by: Alabama at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (Zv2q6)

188 Test










tes

Posted by: f'd at July 20, 2021 07:07 PM (Tnijr)

189 Is there a Lego division in the FBI?

No, but there's a domestic spy agency run out of Ben Franklin's Post Office.

If you can keep it.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 20, 2021 07:07 PM (Ndje9)

190 None of this suprises me. A LEO that would try to subvert the POTUS, or immolate women and children is capable of anything.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2021 06:41 PM (UPBDE)


These turd buckets have been the enemy since Hoover stepped down.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 20, 2021 07:07 PM (y7DUB)

191 Link? I can't find your post
Posted by: Alabama at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (Zv2q6)

***

What the Progressive Socialist Liberals have in store for Conservatives (part 1)

https://cutt.ly/4boPLTW

Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:07 PM (RDD2k)

192 #157 Candace Owens is working on that "dehumanizing" theme right now.

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/
1417531527873896448

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 20, 2021 07:07 PM (UHVv4)

193 181 I'm just saying Fauci's a faggot. And a no-account grifter. That's all.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice



And a career Federal Bureaucrat. The FedGov is full of these types. They worm around the system, failing upwards. Always failing upwards.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 20, 2021 07:07 PM (QFVV9)

194 Buzzfeed is now a reliable source?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 07:08 PM (XcqlI)

195 Pas








sed

Posted by: 29Victor at July 20, 2021 07:08 PM (BJKQV)

196 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop
Thanks.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 20, 2021 07:08 PM (YDiuS)

197 remember when the FBI busted those people that were running unpasteurized milk or something in Ohio.
Posted by: pawn at July 20, 2021 07:00 PM (OVGnc)

How many infiltrated as dairy cows?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:03 PM (eoQWY)

A few.

Posted by: Oprah at July 20, 2021 07:08 PM (X2GY+)

198 "The trove of evidence they helped gather provides an unprecedented view into American extremism by the FBI itself"

No kidding.

Here we have Exhibit 11D. A papier mache mock up of a surface-to-air missile strike against Air Force One, crafted by Special Agent Garcia.

And now turn your attention to Exhibit 14A. A parody song "Gonna Kill All The Feds I See" performed by Agent Sullivan.

And finally, sadly, Exhibit 21. A plot hatched by NSA Agent Bob to kidnap the First Dog and have him castrated.

"Wow Agent Ramirez, you boys at the FBI really ARE the domestic terrorists we've been waiting for!"

You're too kind. And for just $19.95 I'll meet you after this briefing and give you oral sex.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 07:08 PM (49Exr)

199 Unless proven otherwise I have to assume that FBI is merely claiming there was a conspiracy.
Also, based upon prior fabrications by the FBI / DoJ to the highest levels I have to assume anything introduced as 'evidence' by the FBI / DoJ is a fabrication.

Trying to frame a President for treason up to and including fabricating the alleged crime can destroy an organization's credibility forever.

Thanks Bill Barr, you did a hell of a job trying to protect the DoJ / FBI credibility.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 20, 2021 07:08 PM (n8y8F)

200 With Fauci it all went wrong when a red Swingline vanished. The world will pay.

Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2021 07:09 PM (r4sI4)

201 f'd

Blink twice if you are under compulsion.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 07:09 PM (u82oZ)

202 I'm just saying Fauci's a faggot. And a no-account grifter. That's all.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (JN3xP)

Oh, he's got accounts.

In Switzerland, Cayman, Hong Kong.....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 07:09 PM (6FeV1)

203 What the Progressive Socialist Liberals have in store for Conservatives (part 1)

https://cutt.ly/4boPLTW
Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:07 PM (RDD2k)


Ah. I was confused. I thought you meant the Kurt article.

I have read that article you linked though. It is very worth the read, I concur.

Posted by: Alabama at July 20, 2021 07:09 PM (Zv2q6)

204 In the meantime, Joey Bipod Sticky Fingers takes a cue from Hillary:

https://tinyurl.com/bfcj4eau

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2021 07:10 PM (r+sAi)

205 I thought my voice might get all gay when I quit smoking. But then I hear Fauci, and I'm all "nah, I'm ok."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2021 07:10 PM (JN3xP)

206
Dr. Evil's giant dick rocket:

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=Ju1UwmgkKgI

Bezos is indeed Dr. Evil. He's gonna be doing that pinky to the mouth thing soon.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 07:10 PM (Mzdiz)

207 Just like the Jihadis in Dallas, the FBI instigates as well facilities the crimes.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 20, 2021 07:11 PM (yQpMk)

208 Hell, the people the feebles "arrested" could just be fucking actors. Who the fuck even knows anymore. The only legal "journalism" is direct quoting of press releases spiced up with gossip and rumors.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 07:11 PM (6FeV1)

209 Whitmer triggers the uncanny valley for me

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 20, 2021 07:11 PM (M+Lyo)

210 was this intially hatched by HalfWhit and then sold to the FBI ?

Posted by: REDACTED at July 20, 2021 07:11 PM (YK4Qh)

211 ZOD IMPERIAL.
Posted by: ZOD

1962 CHRYSLER IMPERIAL

Posted by: Miklos Like Cars of a certain type at July 20, 2021 07:12 PM (QzkSJ)

212 Is there nothing the FBI won't do? Spying, lying, entrapment and that is just for starters.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 20, 2021 07:12 PM (ESLBo)

213 Is there nothing the FBI won't do? Spying, lying, entrapment and that is just for starters.
Posted by: LostInSpace at July 20, 2021 07:12 PM (ESLBo)

Their job?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:12 PM (eoQWY)

214 The FBI was also involved in the Oregon standoff with Cliven Bundy's son and some other guys. After the initial Bundy Ranch standoff where the various Feds assempbled were unable to intimidate/shoot him and/or his family, the FBI sent in a couple agents posing as documentary filmmakers, They stayed on the ranch and recorded many hours of interviews with the family abd friends.

Then when there was the standoff in Oregon w/Bundy's son and some other guys, it was one of these documentary filmmakers who told them to do some target shooting practice (gee, maybe the standoff was their idea, too?). It was this shooting that the autorities used as an excuse to go in, killing one of them, Robert LaVoy Finicum. And THEN the feds who prosecuted Bundy were so freakin; corrupt the whole thing got thrown out court.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2021 07:12 PM (bDqIh)

215 Thanks Bill Barr, you did a hell of a job trying to protect the DoJ / FBI credibility

He is the cat that made his bones by defending Lon Horiuchi - the guy that killed Vicki Weaver with a brilliant 100 yard shot with a .308, and sketched it out after, while she was holding a baby. Not the sketch - he did that after in his hotel.


That Bill Barr. He also blows a set of bag pipes. Great American.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 07:13 PM (dfpIc)

216 Willard:

My annual reminder that there exists a website called:

https://.ApolloInRealtime.org

where you can watch the Apollo 11, 13 and 17 missions presented in real time. Every photo, video, audio and transcript of each mission. Truly one of the best interactive websites in existence.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 20, 2021 07:13 PM (y6l0F)

217 "She was holding her small child at the time."

The same sniper turned up like a bad penny in another wrongful shooting, I think against one of the BLM Ranchers.
They drove them off the road, and when the rancher fled the crash he clutch at his side as if in pain, which was all the sniper needed as an excuse.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if same guy murdered Ashli Babbit

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 07:14 PM (49Exr)

218 >>Is there nothing the FBI won't do?


Look at Hunter Biden's harddrives or Hillary's emails?
Punish and/or fire corrupt FBI employees?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2021 07:14 PM (bDqIh)

219 No lies detected.

https://gab.com/TheZBlog/posts/106615612429013547
Brandi Love is the prefect representative of conservatism. She is an old whore well past her prime. Conservatism is also an old whore well past its prime willing to degrade itself for attention. When you look at it objectively, Brandi Love is the near perfect representative of the conservative movement.

https://gab.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/
posts/106615593294329044
Galaxy-brained "conservatives" who are crying about the need to "stop worrying about porn stars and focus on bigger issues" need to shut up.
If you can't even fight and win the small battles, you will end up a slave to the trannies and degenerates who want you dead.
They aren't sorry for their lifestyle, in fact- they're proud of it and want to push it on your kids. They must be immediately cancelled. Never back down

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 20, 2021 07:14 PM (2YODA)

220 Dr. Evil's giant dick rocket:

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=Ju1UwmgkKgI

Bezos is indeed Dr. Evil. He's gonna be doing that pinky to the mouth thing soon.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 07:10 PM (Mzdiz)

hahah

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 20, 2021 07:14 PM (M+Lyo)

221 "348 I'm sure when the facts of the Whitmer case come out it'll read about like this:

FBI Agent: Cletus, that Governor is a bitch. Somebody ought to do something.

Cletus: Yep.

FBI Agent: We should kidnap her.

Cletus: Yep.

FBI Agent: Busted!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2021 01:09 PM (5We2S)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2021 07:14 PM (5We2S)

222 I used to laugh at people for saying the US government developed AIDS. Now I am reconsidering.
What was Fauci doing at the time?

Posted by: MikeN at July 20, 2021 07:14 PM (o/eHL)

223 >>202 I'm just saying Fauci's a faggot. . Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2021 07:06 PM (JN3xP)

He would sit on the wicker chair in the garret at night and pick seeds from the peeled orange. "It is not important, really. Paris, women, food, the world. All that is important is telling a true story, about a man and a place and a time. And that man losing his honor to another man. Who was also eating an orange. Behind him."

Posted by: ZOD Hemingway at July 20, 2021 07:15 PM (xK9An)

224 "Andy McCarthy just loaded up the "Vouch For" template on Microsoft Word." I love me some good writing!

Posted by: USA at July 20, 2021 07:15 PM (9n8Rx)

225 Is there not enough crime already that they have to go around making more? This is like the firefighter who starts fires so he can put them out.
Posted by: f'd at July 20, 2021 06:39 PM (Tnijr)



The demand for Right Wing violence far exceeds the supply.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 20, 2021 07:15 PM (yQpMk)

226 I used to laugh at people for saying the US government developed AIDS. Now I am reconsidering.
What was Fauci doing at the time?
Posted by: MikeN at July 20, 2021 07:14 PM (o/eHL)

Watching it spread, from his own accounts.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:15 PM (eoQWY)

227 Does the FBI only hire sociopaths or do they accept psychopaths as well?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 07:15 PM (cSyAR)

228 Buzzfeed: FBI Informants Initiated the "Plot to Kidnap Gretchen Whitmer."

I someone is making up work for themselves to do it usually means either:
1) There isn't enough real work to justify their employment or
2) There is real work to do but they don't want to do it.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 20, 2021 07:16 PM (BJKQV)

229 The demand for Right Wing violence far exceeds the supply.

***

It's so weird how that works.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:16 PM (RDD2k)

230 The EFF BEE EYE.

At least the old Mafia had scruples and some form of honor, comparatively speaking.

The EFF BEE EYE is now simply a social/government form of blood cancer, be it Leukemia, Lymphoma, or Myeloma.

This is hard for me, personally, because as a kid growing up, I actually thought the Efrem Zimbalist, Jr's character was based on real people, not imaginary one.

How effing dumb I was.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 20, 2021 07:16 PM (sy5kK)

231 222 I used to laugh at people for saying the US government developed AIDS. Now I am reconsidering.
What was Fauci doing at the time?
Posted by: MikeN at July 20, 2021 07:14 PM (o/eHL)

Developing AIDS.


Oh. Sorry, that's what you were implying.

Carry on, then.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 07:16 PM (6FeV1)

232 ZOD IMPERIAL.
Posted by: ZOD

1962 CHRYSLER IMPERIAL
Posted by: Miklos Like Cars of a certain type at July 20, 2021 07:12 PM (QzkSJ)


I'm partial to a 1963 Veuve Cliquot Brut Imperial, myself.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 07:16 PM (2JVJo)

233
At this point, every three letter agency in the federal govt. needs to be opened up, everything declassified and let it all hang out.

Yes, that would be very bad "national security", sources and methods and all that shit, plus harm our "allies". But at this point, that is of little consequence.

That's what the next Trump, if there every is one, someone who actually represents the people and not the Oligarchy, needs to do.

Just open everything up and let us all see what these fuckers have been doing for the last 80 years since the end of WWII.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 07:16 PM (Mzdiz)

234 Is there nothing the FBI won't do? Spying, lying, entrapment and that is just for starters.
Posted by: LostInSpace at July 20, 2021 07:12 PM

------

Don't forget about roiding out, shaving your pits, and pumping iron, and getting JACKED. Not just GAINZZZ. Also getting JACKED by other dudes. And beating the fuck out of your wife. For freedom, justice, and the American way, of course.

Posted by: Special Agent Trask at July 20, 2021 07:17 PM (JN3xP)

235 21 Neil would be much happier if he just stop the pretext of being some sort of journalistic-like substance and apply for one of those vacated positions at the Lincoln Log Project.

---
Or at CNBC after Shep Smith announces in a huff that he is leaving CNBC to pursue other opportunities.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 20, 2021 07:17 PM (ESLBo)

236 The same sniper turned up like a bad penny in another wrongful shooting, I think against one of the BLM Ranchers.
They drove them off the road, and when the rancher fled the crash he clutch at his side as if in pain, which was all the sniper needed as an excuse.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if same guy murdered Ashli Babbit

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 07:14 PM (49Exr)

Probably has stacks of Soldier of Fortune mags and wears tacticool daily

Posted by: a dude in MI at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (+I6Y/)

237 Term limits for all federal employees

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (49Exr)

238 I mean, they're looting farms of chickens and goats, and there's a queue that looks like a mile long to get groceries. Shit is rekt. Might want to think about how this might apply to our own situation.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it!



My most recent ex-wife is a South African. I've seen a lot of videos about the situation and most people there think that it is a commie coup in the making. Sort of a more violent version of the Saint Floyd Riots of 2020.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (y6l0F)

239 >>Is there nothing the FBI won't do?


Look at Hunter Biden's harddrives or Hillary's emails?
Punish and/or fire corrupt FBI employees?
Posted by: Lizzy

Stop 9/11 from happening same with the CIA.
Stop literally running child tracking and child porn sites on the dark web.
Stop running guns into Mexico so they can be brought back into the Urban areas
Stop committing terrorist and treasonous acts against America and Americans blaming straw men.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (2YODA)

240 Term limits for all federal employees
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (49Exr)



RENEW! RENEW!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (yQpMk)

241 If I am ever on a jury that hats fbi evidence it is not guilty for me.

This is what the right could easily do across the board. Takes one of 12 jurors to totally fuck the system up.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (c5/hU)

242 PSA

"Car Mechanic Simulator" is on sale on Steam for $2. I don't know anything about it beyond reading positive reviews, but apparently you are constantly losing your 10mm socket, which is a clever touch.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:19 PM (RDD2k)

243 I saw a picture of the FBI guy who is central to this whole fraud, he looks like your garden variety thug. Being up on domestic violence charges is proof positive.

Now we know why the rank and file FBI agents have no problem with their leaders' activities against Trump and his administration. Where else would they get a job that suits their natural proclivities?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at July 20, 2021 07:19 PM (RMGKK)

244 when you own the refs, you get to win every game

unfortunately, the work that the left has done for decades is really starting to pay off

Posted by: REDACTED at July 20, 2021 07:19 PM (YK4Qh)

245 I keep thinking Neil Cavuto can't beclown himself any more than he did during the hydroxycholroquine debacle. And then BLAMO! He goes and passionately defends one the worst scoundrels still sucking oxygen in the US.

Posted by: PacosMojo at July 20, 2021 07:19 PM (Jk8js)

246 My most recent ex-wife is a South African. I've seen a lot of videos about the situation and most people there think that it is a commie coup in the making. Sort of a more violent version of the Saint Floyd Riots of 2020.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (y6l0F)

I thought the ANC was about 98 percent commie already

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:19 PM (eoQWY)

247 53 I for one miss the good old days when the FBI was planting reefers on jazz musicians, and keeping the world safe from the scourge of MLK and John Lennon...
---
The ghost of J. Edgar Hoover dances in a dim light while wearing a sparkly dress and high heels while recalling the good ole' days.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 20, 2021 07:20 PM (ESLBo)

248 This is an FBI plot.

------------------

And so was the Las Vegas massacre.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at July 20, 2021 07:20 PM (RMGKK)

249 @ 140 - sorry for the typo. I'm on my 2nd martini and kind of 'happy'.

I actually had a long post about #72 but fucked it up. I'm still laughing about that. But of course, my one and only shotgun went overboard on that fucking canoe.

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 07:21 PM (U1eOr)

250 241 Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (c5/hU)

They know this and they include the doctrine of jury nullification advocacy as being a reason to be on a watchlist...

no I am not kidding.

"Fix your 302s boys" *should*have unified the right, people like AllahCuck and Uncle Benny Shapiro could not be bothered to be bothered.

Posted by: sven at July 20, 2021 07:21 PM (Lzpvj)

251 https://cutt.ly/4boPLTW

"1994 genocide in Rwanda. This followed the well documented model. Demonize a class of people. Then disarm them. Finally, herd them together under a blanket of lies, and kill them all."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - how are the door to door vaccine injectors keeping the chemical at -94F? at July 20, 2021 07:02 PM (RDD2k)
--------------------------

Do you attend church?
There are some pretty good churches out there. Imagine Fenelon's church is solid.
Past Sunday at mine read the Declaration of Independence.

Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 07:21 PM (In5Sq)

252 ...Yes, that would be very bad "national security", sources and methods and all that shit, plus harm our "allies". But at this point, that is of little consequence.
....
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 07:16 PM (Mzdiz)

It is absolutely vital for national security.

Imagine not turning the fire hose on the burning three-bedroom Cape Cod because you might rust out the back door deadbolt.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 07:21 PM (6FeV1)

253 The same sniper turned up like a bad penny in another wrongful shooting, I think against one of the BLM Ranchers.
They drove them off the road, and when the rancher fled the crash he clutch at his side as if in pain, which was all the sniper needed as an excuse.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if same guy murdered Ashli Babbit

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 07:14 PM (49Exr)

Probably has stacks of Soldier of Fortune mags and wears tacticool daily
Posted by: a dude in MI at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (+I6Y/)

Horiuchi was at Waco and there was some " "controversy" about his actions there

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 20, 2021 07:21 PM (M+Lyo)

254 >> I for one miss the good old days when the FBI was planting reefers on jazz musicians, and keeping the world safe from the scourge of MLK and John Lennon...

And taking pictures of JFK and RFK banging Marilyn Monroe.

And, hell, probably killing Marilyn when they had to.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 07:21 PM (Mzdiz)

255 246 I thought the ANC was about 98 percent commie already
Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:19 PM (eoQWY)


Only 98 percent? I see they've gone moderate in recent years.

Posted by: CppThis at July 20, 2021 07:21 PM (8h1h1)

256 There should be a law that states that any undercover agent or informant must make at least 3 reasonable attempts to dissuade criminal activity, in order for them to proceed with immunity.
Anything short of that should be deemed as they are coconspirators and accomplices.

Their job is equal parts prevention before hand and apprehension after the fact.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 20, 2021 07:22 PM (NZHHQ)

257 I thought the ANC was about 98 percent commie already
ANC - Nelson Mandela - Winnie Mandela - she was a piece of work. You can't hardly find a link to "necklacing" now.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 07:22 PM (dfpIc)

258 The question isn't "Did the FBI orchestrate all alleged right-wing plots?". That much was pretty much always known.

The real question is "To what extent is the FBI managing AntiFa and BLM?"

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2021 07:22 PM (5We2S)

259 Posted by: ZOD Hemingway at July 20, 2021 07:15 PM (xK9An)

This guy gets it. There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and lick an orange. But, gently. It's all in the technique.

Posted by: The Lizard at July 20, 2021 07:22 PM (JN3xP)

260 https://amgreatness.com/the rank shame of the fbis rank and file

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2021 07:22 PM (Cxk7w)

261 The ghost of J. Edgar Hoover dances in a dim light while wearing a sparkly dress and high heels while recalling the good ole' days.
Posted by: LostInSpace at July 20, 2021 07:20 PM (ESLBo)

-------------------

J. Edgar Hoover was ahead of his time, today he would be lionized for his transgenderism alone.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at July 20, 2021 07:22 PM (RMGKK)

262 I'm partial to a 1963 Veuve Cliquot Brut Imperial, myself.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 07:16 PM (2JVJo)


-----
I keep sayin'... King Harv's Imperial Espresso is only $47 a pound. At that price, you should buy 2!

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 07:23 PM (U1eOr)

263 >>I'm partial to a 1963 Veuve Cliquot Brut Imperial, myself. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 07:16 PM (2JVJo)

Just so.

You (fingers snapped) this gentleman.

(Pop. Fizz. Smiles, admiration.)

Posted by: ZOD Hemingway at July 20, 2021 07:23 PM (xK9An)

264 "Is there nothing the FBI won't do?"

I think they leave Puppy Stomping to the local SWAT Teams.

I seem to recall a scandal where a butch female SWAT member was outed for deliberately going after family pets during raids. Wonder how someone like her could pass a mental health eval.

But really, the people that go into law enforcement are going to trend towards authoritarianism. And somewhere along the way they risk shifting alignments from LN to LE

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 07:23 PM (49Exr)

265 There should be a law that states that any undercover agent or informant must make at least 3 reasonable attempts to dissuade criminal activity, in order for them to proceed with immunity.

**

That's like expecting social workers to help families.

No job security in that, friend.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 20, 2021 07:23 PM (nMXLX)

266 >>260 Posted by: ZOD Hemingway at July 20, 2021 07:15 PM (xK9An)

This guy gets it. There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and lick an orange. But, gently. It's all in the technique.
Posted by: The Lizard at July 20, 2021 07:22 PM (JN3xP)

Wait, should I? Just say I should.

Posted by: ZOD at July 20, 2021 07:25 PM (xK9An)

267 That's like expecting social workers to help families.

No job security in that, friend.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
````````````````````````

Good.
I don't want they should have job security. ;-)

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 20, 2021 07:25 PM (NZHHQ)

268 my main gripe with Cavuto is I'm pretty fucking sure he's the one who got Trish fired

Posted by: REDACTED at July 20, 2021 07:25 PM (YK4Qh)

269 Damn lizard will be the end of us.

Posted by: Alabama at July 20, 2021 07:25 PM (Zv2q6)

270
This is an FBI plot.


What proportion of cases brought before the justice system involving the FBI were instigated by agents of the FBI or informers in the FBI's employ?

They are a criminal organization, pure and simple.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 20, 2021 07:25 PM (pNxlR)

271 Federal Bureau of Infestation.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 07:26 PM (6FeV1)

272 my main gripe with Cavuto is I'm pretty fucking sure he's the one who got Trish fired
Posted by: REDACTED at July 20, 2021 07:25 PM (YK4Qh)


That sonofabitch !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 20, 2021 07:26 PM (M+Lyo)

273 "Horiuchi was at Waco and there was some 'controversy' about his actions there"

Yup. Three names keep turning up like a bad penny in all my timelines:

Sidney Blumenthal
Jamie Gorelick
Lon Horiuchi

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 07:26 PM (49Exr)

274 261 https://amgreatness.com/the rank shame of the fbis rank and file
Posted by: Skip at July 20
------------------

Fish rots from the head

Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 07:26 PM (In5Sq)

275
Speaking of J. Edgar. Everyone was afraid of him. Every POTUS since JFK at least wanted to fire him, but he had blackmail material on them all.

And you know the image of the straight-as-an-arrow, untouchable, upright clean cut "G-man"? That was all Hoover's doing, using his influence with Hollyweird to create it.

And by influence, I mean blackmail.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 20, 2021 07:26 PM (Mzdiz)

276 129 My talented and smart son told me the other day that he used to be interested in the alphabet agencies, and hed be hired in a flash, but he no longer respects them and could never work for people like them.

Efram zimbalist jr shed a tear.
Posted by: LASue at July 20, 2021 06:58 PM (Ed8Zd)

Sorry for the second EZ Jr reference in the same post at 230, LASue, I didn't read the comments of Ace's article, instead I responded immediately with a similarly-themed message.

Another example of the Horde mind, alive and well.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 20, 2021 07:27 PM (sy5kK)

277 Why did the FBI do this? Was it just to make themselves look good? Was it specifically to ingratiate themselves to Gov (now vice-chair of the DNC) Whitmer? Was it to have an excuse to start calling "far-right" groups "Domestic Terrorists?"

The arrests of the "kidnappers" were announced almost exactly three months before the January 6th incident.

From Wikipedia:
Whitmer later urged in a tweet that the suspects be called domestic terrorists and not members of any militia organization.[116] In an October 11 interview with Face the Nation, she said security threats against her still existed and that extremists like the Wolverine Watchmen are "finding comfort and support in the rhetoric coming out of Republican leadership from the White House to our state House."[117] Whitmer wrote about the plot in an opinion piece in The Atlantic on October 27, where she continued to blame Trump's rhetoric for causing divisiveness in the country.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 20, 2021 07:27 PM (BJKQV)

278 The real question is, "It worked, didn't it?"

They manufactured headline the Democrats desperately needed in the weeks before the election.

And no one will be punished.

Posted by: Mrm88 at July 20, 2021 07:27 PM (zOjOA)

279 Today seems to have a theme....

Posted by: Warai-otoko Zimbalist Jr. at July 20, 2021 07:27 PM (6FeV1)

280 But really, the people that go into law enforcement are going to trend
towards authoritarianism. And somewhere along the way they risk shifting
alignments from LN to LE


Hoyt - you are just damn wrong. They're strong Constitutionalists reluctantly doing a hard job to protect the Republic. They'd give their daily power back at the first opportunity. And their families, friends, and bitches at the bar love them for it.

OK - their families love the money and power. Friends are kinda' nervous. Bitches like the thrill.

Back the blue.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 07:28 PM (dfpIc)

281 nood pigeons

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2021 07:28 PM (V13WU)

282 272 my main gripe with Cavuto is I'm pretty fucking sure he's the one who got Trish fired
Posted by: REDACTED at July 20, 2021 07:25 PM (YK4Qh)


That sonofabitch !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 20, 2021 07:26 PM (M+Lyo)

cocksucker would be appropriate

Posted by: REDACTED at July 20, 2021 07:28 PM (YK4Qh)

283
They are a criminal organization, pure and simple.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 20, 2021 07:25 PM (pNxlR)

Another thing that has to be said again.
Because, truth.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 20, 2021 07:28 PM (sy5kK)

284 The stuff that Whitmer said about her alleged potential kidnappers comes from the exact same script that Democrats are using to describe the January 6th incident,

Posted by: 29Victor at July 20, 2021 07:29 PM (BJKQV)

285 I think the best part about this story is going to be how they had to spring the trap early cause one of the non-FBI guys was getting cold feet and wanted to call ... the FBI.

Posted by: Mrm88 at July 20, 2021 07:29 PM (zOjOA)

286 Not enough money and not a metaphor.

I prefer to watch it burn from the aft deck while sipping a gin and tonic.

Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 07:29 PM (In5Sq)

287
"Andy McCarthy just loaded up the "Vouch For" template on Microsoft Word." I love me some good writing!

Posted by: USA at July 20, 2021 07:15 PM (9n8Rx)


"The stalwart, upstanding agents, of which there are many, will cone out and denounce the FBI's corrupt and venal leadership ranks ANY SECOND NOW! REALLY!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 20, 2021 07:30 PM (pNxlR)

288 "And so was the Las Vegas massacre."

FBI Sniper: It's pancreatic. My pension won't support my kids, I don't know -

FBI Supervisor: How about you do us a favor then? Give us the gun violence we need for extra slush-funding, your family gets 6 figures tax free, and you get to go out with a bang? No worries, we'll cover it all up so no one knows what your real job was.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 07:31 PM (49Exr)

289 The real question is "To what extent is the FBI managing AntiFa and BLM?"
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

A question that deserves an honest answer. But deserve has nothing to do with that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 07:35 PM (u82oZ)

290 The FBI murdered Vicki Weaver while she was holding her baby in her arms. We didn't shut the country down right then and there and demand justice. We've just gone to work; did our jobs; paid our taxes' went to movies made by people who hate us; watched football games with people who hate us; sent our kids to schools where they were taught to hate us, and acted like this country was still America.

The left loves this, the left created this. We are the ones who were obligated to fight it and we did jack! So now we live in a police state. What the hell were we expecting.

Posted by: BurkeanMama at July 20, 2021 07:37 PM (CYk5a)

291 Meanwhile in Las Cruces, the prosecutor in beating death of a 2 year old girl case, failed to email every trial exhibit to the court by the end of the last business day before the trail was to start. It should be noted the prosecutor had several years to prepare.

Your tax dollars at work.

The judge, rightly, banned every prosecution exhibit for the trial.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 20, 2021 07:38 PM (ESLBo)

292 There's a scene in "Bill the Galactic Hero" where everyone in a plot against the government but one guy are paid informants, including Bill.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 06:41 PM (eoQWY)

"The Man Who Was Thursday" by G.K. Chesterton had this happen to the undercover agent put in the anarchist group; in addition, he was voted into being the new head of the group after one-upping the real young anarchist.

Posted by: Chick who uses at July 20, 2021 07:39 PM (/+bwe)

293 I thought the ANC was about 98 percent commie already
Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 07:19 PM (eoQWY)


Check kimdutoit.com blog for some commentary. The guy escaped from South Africa some time ago.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 20, 2021 07:40 PM (n8y8F)

294 Speaking of J. Edgar. Everyone was afraid of him. Every POTUS since JFK at least wanted to fire him, but he had blackmail material on them all.

Like, say. a laptop?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 20, 2021 07:40 PM (Ndje9)

295 The Gipper Lives

Alas, in safes in his office.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 07:43 PM (u82oZ)

296 And taking pictures of JFK and RFK banging Marilyn Monroe.


How have those pics not leaked?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2021 07:47 PM (Irn0L)

297 Speaking of J. Edgar. Everyone was afraid of him. Every POTUS since JFK at least wanted to fire him, but he had blackmail material on them all.


Old J. Edgar was honest compared to the asses in charge now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2021 07:48 PM (Irn0L)

298 LBJ would call Hoover and have him send the files of his favorite people. It was his bedtime reading.

Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 07:51 PM (Zktzy)

299 Nevergiveup

Good evening, Sir.

J.E. Hoover's FBI was the only department that returned unspent money to the Treasury at the end of a fiscal year.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 07:52 PM (u82oZ)

300 FBI has files on everyone.

Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 07:52 PM (Zktzy)

301 Another look at 9/11? Or are 20 years plus decades more of documented declassified patterned behaviors and actions still not long enough?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 20, 2021 06:52 PM (UbZfU)

----------------

Conspiracy theories about 9/11 gave them the idea.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at July 20, 2021 07:53 PM (RMGKK)

302 Google has great files on everyone. They share with the FBI.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 07:59 PM (u82oZ)

303 Google has great files on everyone. They share with the FBI.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 07:59 PM (u82oZ)

I wish they'd share it with themselves. All their ads to me are crap city.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 08:10 PM (eoQWY)

304 "The trove of evidence they helped gather provides an unprecedented view into ... the ways that anti-government groups network with each other and, in some cases, discuss violent actions."

Way #1: FBI
Way #2: See #1

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 20, 2021 08:19 PM (8xsH3)

305 47 Mass ............ is looking better every day.

Words other than "retirement" are inevitably going to apply, unless some of these public servants start remembering their oaths.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 20, 2021 08:26 PM (8xsH3)

306 "they did the same thing to jim hopper..."

Posted by: sound awake at July 20, 2021 08:26 PM (BQ5+M)

307 "it kinda makes you wonder a little bit if any of the texas democrats in dc *really* tested positive for covid or its just an operation like the whitmer kidnapping plot..."

Posted by: sound awake at July 20, 2021 08:29 PM (BQ5+M)

308 i dont think unprecedented means what the reporter *thinks* it means

Posted by: sound awake at July 20, 2021 08:30 PM (BQ5+M)

309 if this is this...what was las vegas...and seth rich...and boston...and garland texas...and a thousand other things...

Posted by: sound awake at July 20, 2021 09:08 PM (BQ5+M)

310 "conspiracy theories" are now starting to be referred to in some circles as "sneak previews"

Posted by: sound awake at July 20, 2021 09:10 PM (BQ5+M)

311 The Fraudulent Bureau of Instigation set out to frame people for a phony crime in an effort to help Gretchen Whitmer's political stance by making her appear to be a much larger adversary of the political right and Trump supporters than she actually is? The FBI playing politics like that? Oh! Say it ain't so! Now the Gretchenazi can run for president with the phony claim that she is so feared by the right that the Trumpists tried to kidnap her!

Posted by: woowoo at July 21, 2021 07:29 AM (QFmvK)

312 Maybe it would help if FBI agents were required by law to wear Smokey the Bear hats every where they go.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 21, 2021 01:47 PM (L/IrG)

313 312 Maybe it would help if FBI agents were required by law to wear Smokey the Bear hats every where they go.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 21, 2021 01:47 PM (L/IrG)


Clown shoes.

Posted by: blaster at July 23, 2021 12:38 PM (X/Wqn)

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