First-World Problems...

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I have touched on this topic before, but we have gotten a huge amount of rain in the last couple of weeks, so the topic is germane.

Sump pumps are great. We had two of them: one in the original basement into which the French drains ran, and one in a lower basement where most of the water appears. That's because it is cut into red rock, so there is very little natural drainage.

But sump pumps work much less effectively when they don't have electrical power...like when there is a ton of rain and trees fall onto power lines. And after three long power outages I got sick of it. But most battery back-up pumps are small 12 volt units that can't really do the job I need, which is lifting a large amount of water eight feet, and doing it for hours, or perhaps a day or two.

So what you see in the photo is two marine deep discharge batteries connected to an inverter, which converts 12V DC to 120 AC to run a secondary pump in a second sump.

It works flawlessly. Except...I have run into the typical situation when after solving a significant problem with work and a fair amount of cash, the problem NEVER REAPPEARS!

I have had this thing for three years, and it has cycled the secondary pump a total of...never.

It's like buying a big new snowblower: that is an ironclad guarantee that it will not snow for that year.

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM




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Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2021 01:01 PM (Cxk7w)

2 CBD you making bombs?

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2021 01:01 PM (Cxk7w)

3 If you had solar panels on your roof, you'd never want for power.

Simpleton.

/sarc

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 18, 2021 01:02 PM (U2p+3)

4 they make generators, ya know

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 01:03 PM (YK4Qh)

5 That's more power than you need to make the guy talk when you connect the leads to his nether parts, CBD.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 18, 2021 01:03 PM (OTzUX)

6 @5: "... when you connect the leads to his nether parts, CBD."

Need a little extra juice when you go the wet Brillo pad on the nipples route though.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 18, 2021 01:04 PM (+WWsf)

7 Sorry should have read the content first, a non rookie mistake.

My sump pump is on the highest spot ( maybe by a 1inch) in the basement, for all the internal flooding it never helped on its own.

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2021 01:04 PM (Cxk7w)

8 looks like a implement of torture

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 01:04 PM (YK4Qh)

9 If you had solar panels on your roof, you'd never want for power.

Simpleton.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 18, 2021 01:02 PM (U2p+3)

Enough to run sous vide?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2021 01:05 PM (Q9lwr)

10 It's true. Invested in a better snow blower last winter and got very little snow after that. If the two things are connected, however, I'm happy to spend the money.

Posted by: leber at July 18, 2021 01:05 PM (MxeFh)

11 The only tool that doesn't seem to eliminate the need is my lawnmower. Everything that I buy as a preventative measure is just like CBD says, including my generator

Posted by: In Exile at July 18, 2021 01:05 PM (kzzyk)

12 Higher ground?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:05 PM (I58tH)

13 Meh, I spent $25k on a new roof.
Now it hasn't rained in months...

Posted by: homeowner 26 at July 18, 2021 01:06 PM (aAP3z)

14 We live in hurrican country and have evacuated once in 10 years. But we've lost power a lot. So finally got a Honda Euro 2200 generator, pretty low noise.

During the last Texas freeze it was a lifesaver, although I had to wake up once per night to refill it.

No lost food, stayed cool, kept the internet on, tv on and the coffee maker going.

NOt enough for the central heat/air but enough for fans/space heaters.

Posted by: dude1394 at July 18, 2021 01:06 PM (3exmE)

15 I wish a new leaf blower stopped leaves from falling.

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2021 01:06 PM (Cxk7w)

16 they make generators, ya know

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 01:03 PM (YK4Qh)

I have one with a manual transfer switch. But a whole-house generator is pricey, and I will need a variance to put it in a convenient place.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2021 01:07 PM (Q9lwr)

17 Pontoon boat living is going to be a thing.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:08 PM (I58tH)

18 Why not run a water line to the location so you can fill up the basement from time to time? For secondary pump testing purposes only. Of course.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 01:08 PM (ESLBo)

19 Higher ground?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:05 PM (I58tH)

I live on a hill. That doesn't keep the basement from flooding.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2021 01:08 PM (Q9lwr)

20 just disconnect it; and then go on a long vacation... You'll get your rain

Posted by: gilbar at July 18, 2021 01:09 PM (CdWrc)

21 19 Build on a slab. Invest money in bigger attic.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:10 PM (I58tH)

22
It's like buying a big new snowblower: that is an ironclad guarantee that it will not snow for that year.

Posted by: CBD


I was recently bequeathed a nice big snowblower; I'm hoping to never have to use it

one more winter...

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 18, 2021 01:11 PM (DUIap)

23 For secondary pump testing purposes only. Of course.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 01:08 PM (ESLBo)

I unplug the primary pump every now and then to test the system!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2021 01:11 PM (Q9lwr)

24 I never thought I'd use my GENERAC portable generator. I had it for about 4 years and then one winter ice storm later... it was running off and on for 3 days.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2021 01:11 PM (BFigT)

25 Snowblowers? Rain? Flooding?

I find your world strange and frightening.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 18, 2021 01:14 PM (OTzUX)

26 I have one with a manual transfer switch. But a whole-house generator is pricey, and I will need a variance to put it in a convenient place.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2021 01:07 PM (Q9lwr)

I just switched over to a Dromax 12K from my Generac 12K
My generac was wearing out
total cost was 1600, generator, 2 tanks , power inlet and extra heavy cord
powers the panel that the Generac ran, no problem
and it powers my Lincoln 255 MIG welder, in case of problem not near the barn

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 01:15 PM (YK4Qh)

27 soryy, Duromax

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 01:16 PM (YK4Qh)

28 19 I live on a hill. That doesn't keep the basement from flooding.

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Invest in roadside signs: "Gravity Hill - watch water do stuff plus donuts and tacos." Nothing but pure profit I am sure.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 01:16 PM (ESLBo)

29 After Katrina I decided that it was imperative to own a genset so I bought a nice one with a Honda motor; brought it home tested it, put it away and never dragged it out again.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 18, 2021 01:17 PM (fv0Fk)

30 I dunno

I have a plow truck and V plow and it snows every winter

a lot

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 01:17 PM (YK4Qh)

31 All kidding aside, it is a serious problem. One of the best solutions is an alarm system, telling you there is flooding and no power for the sump pump. At that time, small children can learn the work ethic and teamwork behind a bucket brigade.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:17 PM (I58tH)

32 I did get a electric plumbing snake, used it once, then found my problem with a shovel and haven't used it again. Probably about $300 and then $10 in pvc

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2021 01:17 PM (Cxk7w)

33 I bought a case of condoms for a spectacular sex life. I've still got that case of condoms.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 18, 2021 01:17 PM (Fs5vw)

34 I like using the snow blower. Something about throwing that snow 25 feet into the air that makes the kid inside me happy.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 18, 2021 01:18 PM (b6yet)

35 I have had this thing for three years, and it has cycled the secondary pump a total of...never.

You sleep a lot better, though, don't you? I'd say it was a spectacular investment.

Posted by: t-bird at July 18, 2021 01:18 PM (W66RU)

36 An inverter to a car and a long extension cord works.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2021 01:19 PM (/hMoF)

37 I live pretty much on a hill, 10 inches of rain is coming in as the ground around the house can only soak up so much water.

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2021 01:19 PM (Cxk7w)

38 OTOH you haven't had a bad flood.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2021 01:20 PM (EZebt)

39 For monitoring look into ITDT systems.
If This
Do That

WiFi enabled base station/monitor, battery powered sensors, push/text/email notifications.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2021 01:20 PM (BFigT)

40 Has anyone else ever thought that comment sections are the 21st century version of CB radios?

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 01:20 PM (ESLBo)

41 CBD you making bombs?
Posted by: Skip

That's almost as nice as my clock!

Posted by: Achmed, the Cocktaker's favorite clockmaker at July 18, 2021 01:21 PM (y3Tko)

42 Is this an issue in a specific part of the country? Ive never had basement water issues. Maybe I just have really good drainage? Im always paranoid about keeping water away from the house.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 18, 2021 01:21 PM (b6yet)

43 Has anyone else ever thought that comment sections are the 21st century version of CB radios?
Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 01:20 PM (ESLBo)

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That's a big 10-4 good buddy!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 18, 2021 01:22 PM (kTF2Z)

44 Bear taking pics at 236

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 01:22 PM (YK4Qh)

45 34 One of the great joys of having a snowblower is helping your neighbors. My neighbor and I used to do the whole block with ours, and not once came back in anyway resembling sober.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:22 PM (I58tH)

46 Due to the way things are going, putting in backup systems only makes sense, any more. For instance, our next house will have a backup generator, just because.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at July 18, 2021 01:23 PM (fw2WT)

47 I actually got about three winters out of a snowblower

Tires have been flat for 8 years now. Lolol

Posted by: torabora at July 18, 2021 01:24 PM (J7Wmq)

48 I bought a gasoline powered generator after Hurricane Sandy in 2012. We had been without power for 3 days.

When it arrived, I wired up a port outside to connect to the generator that runs to a separate breaker panel / transfer switch inside which allows me to choose which house circuits would be powered by the generator.

I have needed to use it ZERO times since.

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2021 01:25 PM (mZUr4)

49 I have a 30ft sailboat and it leaks, has for the 6 years I have owned it, just a trickle from the topside when it rains. It has a 12volt marine bilge pump with float. House bank of 3 12volt golfcart batteries and a 50 watt solar panel. Never an issue, replaced the batteries last year as they were getting up in age (over 7). I would get rid or the inverter get a marine pump from defender.com as well as an high water buzzer for if it fails.

On bigger boats redundant pumps are a thing so not the worst setup.

Posted by: Garbone at July 18, 2021 01:25 PM (pWd2A)

50 My neighbor has a snow blower too and we take turns doing each others walkways. My garage is in the back and there is an alley that the city doesnt plow. I do the alley for the entire block. Nobody has ever offered me booze bough, lol. Ungrateful clods.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 18, 2021 01:25 PM (b6yet)

51 I can do what it would take one an hour with snowblower in less than 5 mintes with my plow

and a lot less effort

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 01:26 PM (YK4Qh)

52 Watching Alaskan State Troopers on YouTube. The segment has a trooper teaching elementary kids how to deal with polar bears. Who knew?

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 01:26 PM (ESLBo)

53  Has anyone else ever thought that comment sections are the 21st century version of CB radios?
Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 01:20 PM (ESLBo)
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That's a big 10-4 good buddy!
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Here come da Kojak with a Kodak!

Posted by: Bob from NSA at July 18, 2021 01:27 PM (y3Tko)

54 Has anyone else ever thought that comment sections are the 21st century version of CB radios?
Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 01:20 PM (ESLBo)


Breaker 1-9. LostInSpace, this is Doof, over.

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2021 01:27 PM (mZUr4)

55 49 I have a 30ft sailboat and it leaks, has for the 6 years I have owned it, just a trickle from the topside when it rains. It has a 12volt marine bilge pump with float. House bank of 3 12volt golfcart batteries and a 50 watt solar panel. Never an issue, replaced the batteries last year as they were getting up in age (over 7). I would get rid or the inverter get a marine pump from defender.com as well as an high water buzzer for if it fails.

On bigger boats redundant pumps are a thing so not the worst setup.
Posted by: Garbone at July 18, 2021 01:25 PM (pWd2A)


Okay. I'm not a boating person. But wouldn't it make more sense to fix the leak?

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 18, 2021 01:28 PM (Fs5vw)

56 FWIW ... we live in northern Cook County, IL and have been flooded 7 times in the last 15 years. None at all in the last 7. While that's a story in itself, a word on generators.

We've had two Generac's, one lemon and one questionable but working. Unfortunately, it failed in the middle of a multi-day rainstorm and I had no power to the house ... including my sump pump. I wondered: "Do I really have to have a battery backup for my backup generator?" That way lies madness. $1000 to have service come out and "hand-tune" the unit to run without a functioning mother board.

During my most recent failure, I took a close look at the controller/circuit board and came to the conclusion that it didn't look any more robust or weather-proof than your average desktop PC network card. My thinking now is that these dumb things probably fail pretty regularly.

That said, it bails us out once or twice a year and is really valuable when this happens in the Winter

Posted by: Secondcitylurker at July 18, 2021 01:28 PM (MEbkQ)

57 Breaker 1-9. LostInSpace, this is Doof, over.
Posted by: Doof

In the rocking chair!

Posted by: Miklos, good buddy at July 18, 2021 01:28 PM (QzkSJ)

58 One of the great joys of having a snowblower is helping your neighbors. My neighbor and I used to do the whole block with ours, and not once came back in anyway resembling sober.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021

In my other house on the other side of town there was a guy with a 4 wheeler and plow who would do the sidewalks on both sides of the street. It was so nice, I only had to shovel the sidewalk from the porch to the mailbox. (gravel driveway, I always took something homemade to he and his family) In this house there are no sidewalks. I do have to shovel the driveway.

Posted by: Infidel at July 18, 2021 01:29 PM (dYrVA)

59 50 For me, that was back in my multi ethnic home town in Ohio. Booze of all nations, slivovitz, ouzo, jezyknowka, you name it. By the time the neighbor and I made it home and put the snowblowers in our garages (more like abandoned in the driveway) it was 1100AM nap time.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:29 PM (I58tH)

60 I bought a case of condoms for a spectacular sex life. I've still got that case of condoms.
Posted by: Justsayin' at July 18, 2021 01:17 PM (Fs5vw)


My equivalent is when I got a vasectomy to keep from getting my wife pregnant. Turns out she found another sure fire way to not get pregnant

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2021 01:30 PM (mZUr4)

61 52 Watching Alaskan State Troopers on YouTube. The segment has a trooper teaching elementary kids how to deal with polar bears. Who knew?
Posted by: LostInSpace

Rayciss!

I bet the brown bears and the black bears are treated differently.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 18, 2021 01:30 PM (U2p+3)

62 Well, time to get outta bed and move to the couch...

Posted by: lin-duh at July 18, 2021 01:30 PM (UUBmN)

63 My equivalent is when I got a vasectomy to keep from getting my wife pregnant. Turns out she found another sure fire way to not get pregnant
Posted by: Doof


Do NOT get me started on women who deny their husbands sex because they don't "feel like it anymore."

Pisses me off.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 18, 2021 01:31 PM (U2p+3)

64 Breaker 1-9. LostInSpace, this is Doof, over.
Posted by: Doof

In the rocking chair!
Posted by: Miklos, good buddy at July 18, 2021 01:28 PM (QzkSJ)


Mercy sakes, looks like we got us a CONVOY...

https://youtu.be/lqYTX7parRw

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2021 01:32 PM (mZUr4)

65 when I was a kid, I would take I40 out to the Sierras in my IH Scout

it was orange and white, the truckers called me the bumblebee

found that if you take the point doing 85 mph for 30 or 40 miles, they didn't mind you getting insde the pack

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 01:34 PM (YK4Qh)

66 64 Eleven long haired friends of Jesus in a chartreuse microbus!

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:34 PM (I58tH)

67 Do NOT get me started on women who deny their husbands sex because they don't "feel like it anymore."

Pisses me off.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 18, 2021 01:31 PM (U2p+3)


I joke, nurse. Mrs Doof isn't really that way

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2021 01:34 PM (mZUr4)

68 @60: "Turns out she found another sure fire way to not get pregnant"

Better than suddenly having a kid that looks like your mailman though.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 18, 2021 01:34 PM (+WWsf)

69 Is the image upside down, or this proof that a battery powered inverter reverses gravity?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2021 01:34 PM (ySM85)

70 Nice looking setup ya got there. I've had my generator for 10 years; finally put gas in it and ran it last year. Power was out for about 2 days after a hurricane came thru. I needed it to save the freezer and fridge contents. I was glad I had it available.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2021 01:35 PM (F0YaR)

71 62 Well, time to get outta bed and move to the couch...

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Well, time for me to move from the couch to the local theatre to watch a matinee play. Yes, the last year of stuff being shut down has left me that crazy. Plus this makes for the perfect excuse to go the pub next afterwards not that I need an excuse.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 01:35 PM (ESLBo)

72 Eleven long haired friends of Jesus in a chartreuse microbus!
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:34 PM (I58tH)


You want to put that microbus in behind that suicide jockey?

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2021 01:36 PM (mZUr4)

73 Better than suddenly having a kid that looks like your mailman though.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 18, 2021 01:34 PM (+WWsf)


Awkward!!

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2021 01:37 PM (mZUr4)

74 62 Well, time to get outta bed and move to the couch...

Posted by: lin-duh at July 18, 2021 01:30 PM (UUBmN)


It's good to have a goal.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2021 01:38 PM (F0YaR)

75 Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2021 01:34 PM (ySM85)

The inverter should be at the top of the photo. But the system loves to flip my photos whenever it feels like it, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was inverted....(get it?).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2021 01:39 PM (Q9lwr)

76 My whole-house generator in California looks like a much better investment now than it might have ten years ago.

If nothing else, installing it may have blessed my neighborhood with protection from power outages for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: MW at July 18, 2021 01:40 PM (fs4s+)

77 If it helps, we're going to have 3rd world problems.

Soon.

Posted by: Today is bad but tomorrow will be worse at July 18, 2021 01:41 PM (Y4yA8)

78 We have a bear in the air, over...

Oh no! Wing-ed bears!! It's the End Times!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, (x8Wzq) Unassuming Gentleman at July 18, 2021 01:41 PM (x8Wzq)

79 Indoor Koi ponds are the rage and add value to a home in an already inflated market.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:41 PM (I58tH)

80 I consider keeping floodwater out of the home to be an essential of life.

The First WorldProblem for my nearby neighbors is that they ended up in the redrawn FEMA flood zone. They have to buy insurance despite only an apocalyptic event would manage to get the floodwaters that far into Michigan (unless Ontario builds dikes on their side).

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 18, 2021 01:43 PM (/+bwe)

81 A lot depends on groundwater levels in your vicinity and grading and soil conditions around the house as far as sump pumps are concerned.

Proper grading and changing soil conditions outside the home can alleviate flooding. Both clay (prone to runoff), and sandy soils (very permeable), can be amended with organic matter that will soak up rain and gradually release it. Grading surfaces away from foundations and directing water away through swales also helps along with subsurface drains directed away from foundations. Roof soffits at 24 inches or so and gutters with extended drain pipes also help a great deal.

Then there are different treatments for foundation walls that also might be necessary. Sumps are along with dehumidifiers the last line of defense but often a cheaper solution than retrofitting an old house or in areas with high groundwater levels.

Posted by: whig at July 18, 2021 01:44 PM (jbkuP)

82 @79: "Indoor Koi ponds ..."

Slippery slope from overfeed koi ponds to mutant alligators eating your pets and small children.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 18, 2021 01:45 PM (+WWsf)

83 bill in arkansas, have you never seen that Costner movie where there ain't nobody living nowhere but on pontoon boats? Well except for the Exxon Valdez fellers.

Posted by: Eromero at July 18, 2021 01:45 PM (0OP+5)

84 34 I like using the snow blower. Something about throwing that snow 25 feet into the air that makes the kid inside me happy.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 18, 2021 01:18 PM

Throwing frozen chunks of dog shit up on the neighbors roof with it would be even moar fun.

Posted by: Lump the Chump at July 18, 2021 01:45 PM (vf++Y)

85 Homes with indoor "water features." Like a small stream running through the den. Complete with fish, plants and a small waterfall.

When you have more money than common sense.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2021 01:45 PM (BFigT)

86 80 I worked with a poor bastard who bought a house, then the flood zone was redrawn, the volunteer fire department closed shop, and some gubbmint agency declared the township a rural slum.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:46 PM (I58tH)

87 Speaking of koi, there was a video of a wels, giant catfish, catch on here a few days ago. Anyone remember which thread.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2021 01:46 PM (/hMoF)

88 I have needed to use it ZERO times since.
Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2021 01:25 PM (mZUr4)
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Might want to check out your system.
You may need it this year.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 18, 2021 01:46 PM (fv0Fk)

89 @83: "Well except for the Exxon Valdez fellers."[/]

And the death metal jet skiers!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 18, 2021 01:47 PM (+WWsf)

90 Of course, if you have battery backups, you have to put a charger on the batteries occasionally. It is useless to have a dead battery backup.

Posted by: Dispenser of Unwanted Advice at July 18, 2021 01:48 PM (SmFPm)

91 If you're building, look at Forma A Drain.
The drain is the form for the footings. Inside and out. I didn't connect the two, so my interior drain goes to daylight independent of the exterior.
City still made me put a drain at the top of the footing. OK.
Then I have at least 1' slope from the walls to the yard, and French drains cut into the uphill side on 2 sides.
I didn't want any water.

Posted by: MkY at July 18, 2021 01:48 PM (Foq6I)

92 I'm looking for a Sea Camper, sometimes I just go through all the campers on Craigslist.
Saw a 30' Bertram w/ twin Perkins diesels for 31K but it didn't have a trailer.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 18, 2021 01:50 PM (fv0Fk)

93 I put in a Generac generator that works off natural gas. It kick in if power goes off. Highly recommended

Posted by: It alfredo at July 18, 2021 01:50 PM (1oNo4)

94 I have a similar setup, and while the power didn't fail, the water got high enough in the sump well that it activated the secondary pump. Here in SW Ohio, we broke, on Saturday, a 100 year record for rainfall.

Posted by: Mark Mathias at July 18, 2021 01:51 PM (CY+j4)

95 I have tried to find information about the PCR test for Coronaviris, specifically what is the standard number of replication cycles used to determine a positive result. Can anyone provide a link? I searched the CDC site, that tells you how to take the sample for example, but I found nothing like "Run X cycles, and if nothing shows, consider it a negative result." I would hope there is a national standard, but I can't find it!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 18, 2021 01:52 PM (8xsH3)

96 I put in a Generac generator that works off natural gas. It kick in if power goes off. Highly recommended

Posted by: It alfredo at July 18, 2021 01:50 PM

Seriously looking at that here in NE Texas, especially after last winter when they would cycle the power off and on every 30 minutes to prevent the system from collapsing.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 18, 2021 01:53 PM (JUOKG)

97 80 I worked with a poor bastard who bought a house, then the flood zone was redrawn, the volunteer fire department closed shop, and some gubbmint agency declared the township a rural slum.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:46 PM

Poor bastard, indeed! I am two houses beyond the flood zone. We were temporarily in trouble with the IRS because our township clerk embezzled the tax payments, but that's been the only scary thing recently.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 18, 2021 01:54 PM (/+bwe)

98 I carry an umbrella in my car. Never rains here when I am getting out of the car.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 18, 2021 01:54 PM (xopIz)

99 91, Mky, you followed sound home building practices.

Posted by: whig at July 18, 2021 01:55 PM (jbkuP)

100 93 I put in a Generac generator that works off natural gas. It kick in if power goes off. Highly recommended

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My experience with gas/diesel generators is they run out of fuel and that the local gas stations and my house are out power at the same time. Sometimes for days. Burning the furniture is an option.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 01:56 PM (ESLBo)

101 Ray Van Dune, I don't think there *is* a national standard, which is one of the more ludicrous of the many failures of this entire disastrous clown-show. As I recall, anything above 30 cycles was considered unreliable. May be mis-remembering. Many places were running 40+ cycles.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 18, 2021 01:58 PM (OTzUX)

102 Our host, Mr. Dildo, mentioned froth in the previous Thread.

I'd like to complain about a significant, if not the foremost First World problem today, the inability of the average Starbucks barista to put enough froth on my half-caff soy frappachino, even when I emphatically ask for it!

Posted by: Karen Whynemum at July 18, 2021 01:59 PM (DMUuz)

103 I'm gonna develop a generator specifically marketing for leftist greenies. An electric powered generator! Just plug it into the nearest outlet and it purrs like a kitten! Plus, no stinky fossil fuels!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 18, 2021 01:59 PM (kTF2Z)

104 97 80 Dead serious about the guy. He came into the shop one day after all the shit started and he was laughing his ass off. Just kept saying "and now I got raccoons in the attic".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 01:59 PM (I58tH)

105 Seriously looking at that here in NE Texas, especially after last winter when they would cycle the power off and on every 30 minutes to prevent the system from collapsing.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 18, 2021 01:53 PM (JUOKG)

I had a 12K Generac for 20 years and I just replaced it with a 12K Duromax

works just as well

a new 12K Generac woulda run at least twice as much

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 02:01 PM (YK4Qh)

106 80 I worked with a poor bastard who bought a house, then the flood zone was redrawn, the volunteer fire department closed shop, and some gubbmint agency declared the township a rural slum.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

An EEZ

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2021 02:01 PM (/hMoF)

107 106 Surprised he didn't get a tax lien in the process.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 18, 2021 02:04 PM (I58tH)

108 It is useless to have a dead battery backup.

Posted by: Dispenser of Unwanted Advice at July 18, 2021 01:48 PM (SmFPm)

The inverter is also a trickle charger for the batteries...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2021 02:04 PM (Q9lwr)

109 I use small 7Kw propane gensets with Alphapower transfer switches at remote sites - Rock solid, very fast switching and very reliable.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2021 02:05 PM (/hMoF)

110 Yes, we bought a big snowblower a couple years ago; very little snow that next winter.

Oh, and I --->thought about getting my car washed this morning, when the sky was clear, the sun was golden...and the clouds moved in this afternoon. Yes, I did it.

Posted by: Flyover at July 18, 2021 02:06 PM (Rbu5d)

111 Alton Jackson, you're leaving too?

Posted by: clutch at July 18, 2021 02:07 PM (9UmRs)

112 The cycle count should be determined by the reagent oem, the old Idaho tech freeze dried packets had a setting on the pouch.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2021 02:08 PM (/hMoF)

113 Well, wadda know. Tree Service truck just parked in front of the house. Seems he went to the neighbors for a get together. Since the place I called last month never came out and gave me an estimate, maybe I will call this place tomorrow.

Posted by: Infidel at July 18, 2021 02:08 PM (dYrVA)

114 My FWP. It just started raining and wife stopped weeding the flower beds. She won't work in the rain.

Posted by: olddog in mo, Pontoon Captain* (like a real captain, only drunker) at July 18, 2021 02:10 PM (ju2Fy)

115 Well, wadda know. Tree Service truck just parked in front of the house. Seems he went to the neighbors for a get together. Since the place I called last month never came out and gave me an estimate, maybe I will call this place tomorrow.
Posted by: Infidel

He might be hung over tomorrow.

Posted by: JT at July 18, 2021 02:10 PM (arJlL)

116 My FWP is that the trees on my property as well as the neighborhood have reached the end of their lifespans, so the slow switchover and cutdowns will not only be a pain but make the neighborhood much less uniform as everybody chooses different. The leaving and blooming all at once really made for a nice effect in the spring and fall. Oh well, to everything there is a season.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2021 02:11 PM (r+sAi)

117 Incongruency Defined aka (one black sock, one white sock): Mt. Olive Pickle Company.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 18, 2021 02:11 PM (ESLBo)

118 I slept in this am. I need to trim the rose bushes, but it's already 94 outside and in blazing sun for trimming. It's only 1 pm.

Posted by: Infidel at July 18, 2021 02:12 PM (dYrVA)

119 re: no rain after installing secondary back-up sump pump

It's the old Arkansas Traveler dilemma.

Rainy day: Can't fix my leaky roof because it's raining.

Clear dy: Don't need to fix the roof because it isn't leaking.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2021 02:12 PM (Xwt96)

120 I head a new noise from the kitchen.

Turns out a new Sous Vide thingy is being used.

I'm told I can thank CBD and the food thread for the new addition to the kitchen.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 18, 2021 02:12 PM (5p7BC)

121 He might be hung over tomorrow.
Posted by: JT at July 18, 2021 02:10 PM (arJlL)

I doubt it. Mormons, neighbor is a, whatever you call one of the head honchos of the church.

Posted by: Infidel at July 18, 2021 02:13 PM (dYrVA)

122 He might be hung over tomorrow.
Posted by: JT at July 18, 2021 02:10 PM (arJlL)

I doubt it. Mormons, neighbor is a, whatever you call one of the head honchos of the church.
Posted by: Infidel

A closet drinker ?

Posted by: JT at July 18, 2021 02:15 PM (arJlL)

123 Don't "they" say not to put a battery directly on concrete? I think I heard that.

Posted by: Weasel at July 18, 2021 02:16 PM (MVjcR)

124 122 He might be hung over tomorrow.
Posted by: JT at July 18, 2021 02:10 PM (arJlL)

I doubt it. Mormons, neighbor is a, whatever you call one of the head honchos of the church.

dunno

I would never stop drinking if I had more than one wife

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 02:17 PM (YK4Qh)

125 I would hope there is a national standard, but I can't find it!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune

******

Cycle thresholds are not standardized, and rarely if ever published. If published they are buried deeply. Good luck finding that info.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2021 02:17 PM (Xwt96)

126 Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2021 02:11 PM (r+sAi)

That's where I am, Mohawk. Trees were planted 46 years ago. I have already had 6 taken down. Pricey as all get out. After these 2 1/2 are out I need to have all the stumps ground. Then I can work on new landscaping. Project this fall is to dig out the sandstone walk path stones that are almost overgrown in the grass in the back yard.

Dad sorta neglected the yard in the years before he passed.

Posted by: Infidel at July 18, 2021 02:18 PM (dYrVA)

127 Into the 12th year of the house, I found some cracking due to foundation settling. To keep it from getting worse, I installed a soaker system around the base of the house so that I could keep the foundation intact. 11 years later we sold the house, having never using that soaker system, not even once.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 18, 2021 02:18 PM (K58O6)

128 That's hardcore if they can drink a closet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2021 02:18 PM (yZLdk)

129 I love it when someone goes all Rube Goldberg on a problem. Like that top picture.
It's inspirational, yeah, that's what it is.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 18, 2021 02:20 PM (sy5kK)

130 One item to remember on nat gas generators is the size of your service line and internal gas lines. If you have an all gas house, you may be limited in the size generator you get. Placement is also an issue, high demand items should be closer to service meter.

Posted by: whig at July 18, 2021 02:20 PM (jbkuP)

131 dunno

I would never stop drinking if I had more than one wife
Posted by: REDACTED

lol. He looked like a youngin. I was dusting in the living room or I would have never seen it.

Posted by: Infidel at July 18, 2021 02:20 PM (dYrVA)

132 128 That's hardcore if they can drink a closet.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2021 02:18 PM (yZLdk)

it was a cedar closet, so prbably sake

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2021 02:20 PM (YK4Qh)

133 Jerry Rigging - a limerick

Outside the rain is a-dumpin'
My basement's in dire need of pumpin'
What should I do?
I don't know about you
But I'm sure I will figure out sumpin'

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2021 02:22 PM (Xwt96)

134 I put everything in the living room on battery backup. It worked perfectly until the power went out the other day. I didn't notice the power had even gone out for a while because the TV, lamps, router, security cams all stayed on. Now all the smart plugs and lights that weren't on battery backup (around 30) are all screwed up due to some glitch. I had to go around and reset them all back up.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at July 18, 2021 02:23 PM (buTO7)

135 Don't "they" say not to put a battery directly on concrete? I think I heard that.

Posted by: Weasel at July 18, 2021 02:16 PM (MVjcR)

"They" do indeed. And "they" are knuckleheads.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2021 02:23 PM (Q9lwr)

136 Mormon supervisors are called "Elders", w/o the quotes. Maybe.

Posted by: klaftern at July 18, 2021 02:24 PM (r4sI4)

137 Battery outer casing is an isolator anyway

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2021 02:24 PM (yZLdk)

138 103, Duke lowell, if you look on Amazon, they have portable battery packs rechargeable from wall circuits that are sometimes called generators by those that consider electricity as coming from the wall socket.

Posted by: whig at July 18, 2021 02:25 PM (jbkuP)

139 Really old ones are Eldritch.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2021 02:25 PM (yZLdk)

140 I've always heard that if you set a battery on concrete, it will go bad.
I've never really believed it since I know of no such science to back it up, but I've also just made it a point to set batteries on 2x4's just in case. ;-)

For the sump pump, yeah, get a small generator even if this is the only damn thing it runs. Wire it to start on loss of power and presence of water.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 18, 2021 02:25 PM (NZHHQ)

141 One item to remember on nat gas generators is the size of your service line and internal gas lines. If you have an all gas house, you may be limited in the size generator you get. Placement is also an issue, high demand items should be closer to service meter.
Posted by: whig

Waiting to schedule an appt. re installing a generator. Dad had a gas line installed for a bbq in the back yard. Thing was filthy. Got rid of it and use a charcoal grill. That extra installed gas line will be for the generator and very near the main living space.

Posted by: Infidel at July 18, 2021 02:25 PM (dYrVA)

142 A closet drinker ?

.....

I thought Baptists were the sneak-a-drinkers.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 18, 2021 02:26 PM (5We2S)

143 "Lead-Acid batteries setting on concrete = Bad for battery", has been declared a myth by all the experts. I still don't do it, just because.

Even deep cycle marine batteries should be kept on a float charger. It is beneficial to cycle them now and then, they like to swap electrons around now and then. Batteries naturally lose their charge over time, and anything less than a full charge will result in a permanent loss of capacity. So it will choke when you need it most.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2021 02:26 PM (IF7/S)

144 15 I wish a new leaf blower stopped leaves from falling.

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2021 01:06 PM


1.) Put an "All Lives Matter" sign in your yard.

2.) Wait for Antifa to gather on your lawn.

3.) Put all of your leftover 4th of July smoke bombs into a tin can that is prominently labelled "Tear Gas". Light the fuses and throw the can into the crowd.

4.) The Antifa losers will use their hundreds of leaf blowers to push the smoke and all of THE LEAVES out of your yard.

5.) PROFIT!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 18, 2021 02:28 PM (tkyK5)

145 123 Don't "they" say not to put a battery directly on concrete? I think I heard that.
Posted by: Weasel at July 18, 2021 02:16 PM (MVjcR)

That's a holdover from waaaaaaay back in the day when the cases were made of wood.

Worked in the battery bidness about 112 years ago is the only reason I know that.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 18, 2021 02:30 PM (cknjq)

146 Mormon supervisors are called "Elders", w/o the quotes. Maybe.
Posted by: klaftern

I think so. They are very nice people, but when I was talking to the wife one day, she asked me if I was afraid to live alone. This is a very quiet, nice neighborhood. She sort of recoiled when I said, no, I have personal protection. Although, not those exact words.

Posted by: Infidel at July 18, 2021 02:30 PM (dYrVA)

147 That's almost as nice as my clock!
Posted by: Achmed, the Cocktaker's favorite clockmaker at July 18, 2021 01:21 PM (y3Tko)

Cocktaker?
I prefer Dictaster for Life.
Or at least 4 terms.

Posted by: Powerbottom Barry at July 18, 2021 02:34 PM (z79tQ)

148 Okay, I can take a hint. I will shut up.

Posted by: Infidel at July 18, 2021 02:35 PM (dYrVA)

149 Why boats should not be owned by idiots: bilge pumps. If you put the drain hose over the side and it gets in the water, the boat fills up and sinks. Had idiots do that twice at the river place.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 18, 2021 02:38 PM (YynYJ)

150 My FWP. It just started raining and wife stopped weeding the flower beds. She won't work in the rain.
Posted by: olddog in mo, Pontoon Captain* (like a real captain, only drunker) at July 18, 2021 02:10 PM

I won't, either.Rain brings out the mosquitoes while simultaneously washing off the Deep Woods Off.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 18, 2021 02:39 PM (/+bwe)

151 Orders just came down for the week ahead. Gotta build a planter box for a ornamental shrub. Seriuosly. Can't put it in the ground. AYFKM!?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 18, 2021 02:40 PM (4O69u)

152 And that's really why I didn't want electric for my trailer. I decided to get a small fridge, which lead to a generator. Still need the deep cycle battery and to find my inverter. I can sell that stuff off but hate to spend the money on it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 18, 2021 02:43 PM (YynYJ)

153 135 Don't "they" say not to put a battery directly on concrete? I think I heard that.

Posted by: Weasel at July 18, 2021 02:16 PM (MVjcR)

"They" do indeed. And "they" are knuckleheads.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2021 02:23 PM (Q9lwr)
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Violator!! I'm reporting you to them!

Posted by: Weasel at July 18, 2021 02:46 PM (MVjcR)

154 The apt complex where I live just installed water seepage alarms under kitchen cabinet, one for the sink and one for the dishwasher. Under the sink in the bathroom, one next to the washing machine, and one next to the water heater. I don't know what kind of alarm noise they will make. Already have a carbon monoxide and a smoke detector. The smoke detector is my personal enemy. It is enough to give me an eye tic.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 18, 2021 02:46 PM (XZvba)

155 Notsothoreau, they make propane fridges too, they pair well with the propane stoves.
You have to figure out what to do about lights.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2021 02:46 PM (ySM85)

156 Never got the plant it above ground thing either

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2021 02:48 PM (Cxk7w)

157 The smoke detector is my personal enemy. It is enough to give me an eye tic.
Posted by: washrivergal at July 18, 2021 02:46 PM (XZvba)


I see that smoke alarm / extinguisher company truck running around with the logo on the side asking "have you checked your smoke alarm recently?"

I always say to myself, "yes, I cook bacon regularly"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2021 02:48 PM (ySM85)

158 Hey. It's like you own guns but have never had to defend yourself or someone else with one.

It's a bit of a pain moneywise and other things but if you ever need it, it's there which is better than not there.

maybe play around with it and learn how to use solar and wind to keep the charge up thus gaining some knowledge that would be useful for later on or even right now.

you're looking at it wrong. You buy insurance for your house right? Same thing.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 18, 2021 02:48 PM (wb4G5)

159 Why are the inverter and batteries elevated above the 120vac receptacle? Seems like an odd setup.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 18, 2021 02:48 PM (Va++g)

160 Why boats should not be owned by idiots: bilge pumps. If you put the drain hose over the side and it gets in the water, the boat fills up and sinks. Had idiots do that twice at the river place.
___

Saw a video of just that the other night.

Posted by: SMH at July 18, 2021 02:51 PM (Fdh9S)

161 My first world problem.
Has anyone bothered to scan thru the radio dial lately???
It's garbage!!!
Half the AM band is mariachi crap and the rest is rock or country with the occasional talk show.
FM all sounds the same. Who knew you can rap in country, classical, or regular rap.

Ugh.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2021 02:54 PM (axyOa)

162 My other FWP is that since abandoning almost all sports watching frees up time which leads to me doing things that should be done which are called chores.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2021 02:55 PM (r+sAi)

163 "one in a lower basement where most of the water appears"

we had a "lower basement" where I grew up, but that's because it was a split level. I don't get the "original basement" and lower basement cut into red rock. (why, for utilities, and collecting storm water?)

Our lower basement still drained into (?) the storm drain I assume, unless it was into a lower sewer line, but I think not. Anyway ... that system seems overengineered ... you need more/better problems. ha

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2021 02:55 PM (Cus5s)

164 Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2021 02:46 PM (ySM85)
--------------------

Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a functioning used camper?

Posted by: Braenyard at July 18, 2021 02:55 PM (fv0Fk)

165 Ugh.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2021 02:54 PM (axyOa)

Behold our lawns, littered with the detritus of philistines.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 18, 2021 02:56 PM (6FeV1)

166 During the winter I put a "Battery Tender" on my tractor to keep the battery charged. It "floats" the battery by letting it drop voltage, then recharge, etc. I've never had an issue with starting it due to the battery. Being a diesel though it doesn't really like the cold.

When it was bitterly cold here last winter for a week I'd go out at start the vehicles (and tractor) about once every two days just to make sure. My wife's Explorer sent us a text message during that cold snap to tell us it was going into "hibernation" due to the cold. lol

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2021 02:56 PM (BFigT)

167 159 Why are the inverter and batteries elevated above the 120vac receptacle? Seems like an odd setup.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 18, 2021 02:48 PM (Va++g)
---------

Electricity doesn't run downhill.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 18, 2021 02:56 PM (fv0Fk)

168 I used my trusty plow on my tractor to plow out my neighbors on Super Bowl Sunday. They gave me a platter of over-cooked chocolate chip cookies. My wife, who did not assist in the plowing, loves over-cooked chocolate chip cookies and ate every one. I do not like them, Sam I am. I do not like them here or there, I do not like them anywhere.

Since they have about a 6,000 sq foot driveway, and the snow was very damp and heavy, I stretched the drive belt on the tractor, and will have to replace it soon. At least I didn't crack a tooth on the over-cooked chocolate chip cookies and need an emergency root canal.

Posted by: Bill from Attainder at July 18, 2021 02:57 PM (N/gDA)

169 Did you put the drain plug in?

Wut?

Posted by: Braenyard at July 18, 2021 02:57 PM (fv0Fk)

170 At my former dwelling, following a visit by Hurricane Ike, we installed a big Generac whole-house unit fed from an LP gas tank. I don't think we faced another two-week outage like we faced with Ike, so I considered the purchase to be a success.

My lovely wife termed it "a warding device" suitable for use against hurricanes.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 18, 2021 02:57 PM (cjlB3)

171 Gotta build a planter box for a ornamental shrub.

.....

Could be worse. They expect me to cut down the mightiest oak in the forest with a herring.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 18, 2021 02:58 PM (5We2S)

172 My mother-in-law had a sump that got a lot of use during rainy weather. After one power outage, during an extended period of rain that required carrying 5 gallon buckets up from the basement for a day, I installed a water driven backup connected to the city water supply. Water jetted through a venturi would suck water up from the sump and expel it up and out the discharge pipe.

It may have been used once or twice. It worked but only because she had municipal water and was no longer using a well.

Posted by: George V at July 18, 2021 02:58 PM (U2Tva)

173 Why are the inverter and batteries elevated above the 120vac receptacle? Seems like an odd setup.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 18, 2021 02:48 PM (Va++g)

It does. I have no idea why the outlet was installed so low, unless it is some stupid code thing. But it is in the lowest part of the house, so it just doesn't make any sense. I will eventually move it higher, I am just lazy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2021 02:59 PM (Q9lwr)

174 KAMALA HARRIS TAKEN TO WALTER REED.

I think it's a suspected double knee injury!

Days after meeting with the Democrat lawmakers from Texas, and one day after three of them tested positive for COVID-19, Kamala Harris has gone to Walter Reed Hospital.

The White House says that the visit is for a "routine doctor's appointment," though the timing is curious particularly because it is a "routine" checkup on a Sunday.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 18, 2021 02:59 PM (UHVv4)

175 The White House says that the visit is for a "routine doctor's appointment," though the timing is curious particularly because it is a "routine" checkup on a Sunday.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 18, 2021 02:59 PM (UHVv4)

"Is the herpes still there doc?"

"The herpes is still there."

"Fuck."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 18, 2021 03:01 PM (6FeV1)

176 FOOD THREAD,

Get cleaned up and ready for dinner

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at July 18, 2021 03:02 PM (Cxk7w)

177 Lights are easy. I like kerosene. I have some stick up battery powered lights (comes with a remote), that I can use when I just need a quick light.

The propane fridges require the trailer be level. I've never had one tbat worked. I might set this fridge up in the car, instead of the trailer. It would be easy to put in a second battery there and use the car to charge it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 18, 2021 03:04 PM (YynYJ)

178 This made me smile:

https://tinyurl.com/4zk7am5s

Posted by: SMH at July 18, 2021 03:08 PM (Fdh9S)

179 If you're asking me, I don't want a trailer. I want to live a specific way and I want a trailer I can set up for that. If you look at the vardo on paleotool.com, you'll see the difference.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 18, 2021 03:10 PM (YynYJ)

180 Spoiler alert. 1000 supporters won't be waiting outside of Kamala's hospital until she gets out.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at July 18, 2021 03:11 PM (buTO7)

181 Two 2x6s, one about 20" with the other about 12".
Both with the travel end cut at about 60 degrees.

Nail the short one to the long one allowing one to back the trailer up one or two levels depending on how much is needed.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 18, 2021 03:14 PM (fv0Fk)

182 Fauci saying we would have mass polio and small pox with current "disinformation". Satan is going to go to town on that little sumbitch one day.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 18, 2021 03:16 PM (oWBc3)

183 Can we hope that this is particularly virulent strain of covid from the Texas traitorous democrats and that if she does not die suffers greatly for a long period of time?


Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 18, 2021 03:18 PM (w5raC)

184 As soon as I replaced my heavy panel hurricane shutters with easy-peasy accordian ones we haven't had a hurricane on the east coast of Florida.....

Posted by: thefritz at July 18, 2021 03:21 PM (RXYJP)

185 Recommendations
1. Get a 12VDC pump. No inverter so one less thing to go wrong, fewer connections, more less things to go wrong. More efficient.
2. Hook up to solar panel and charge controller to batteries.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 18, 2021 03:26 PM (w5raC)

186 I have a whole house generator, with it's own propane tank, on the concrete porch of my startup's production room.

Pricy, but we have been losing power more and more. Helps us sleep with that protection against the elements.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 18, 2021 03:28 PM (u82oZ)

187 This made me smile:

https://tinyurl.com/4zk7am5s Posted by: SMH at July 18, 2021 03:08 PM (Fdh9S)


good centermass shot placement.
Andie-Fa is lucky he wasn't facing Russian riot cops, they shoot for the face b/c of body armor.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2021 03:30 PM (ySM85)

188 Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious

We can have the best country in the world with better policies.

We need a wider and more severe contagion in the corridors of power. Many more people will thrive thus.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 18, 2021 03:30 PM (u82oZ)

189 SMH

It's a start. Matt Bracken and What I Saw at the Coup is where this is heading.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 18, 2021 03:32 PM (u82oZ)

190 Notsothoreau, it is a tradeoff any way you look at it. My Sis had her RV burn down and they suspected it was due to the propane line wearing through from vibration.

I bought a Butterfly two burner kerosene stove from St. Paul Mercantile. I am pleased as Punch about that, but I admit I have no use at all for it until we lose power like last winter. Even then, I keep two cylinders of propane for my canning stove which I plan to use up first.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2021 03:34 PM (ySM85)

191 Notsothoreau, they make propane fridges too, they pair well with the propane stoves.
You have to figure out what to do about lights.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2021 02:46 PM (ySM85)

They make propane-fed gas mantle lamps for RV's, too. They do throw off a lot of heat, but that's welcome in Winter camping.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2021 04:23 PM (EvF+n)

192 Let me ask you/someone this. We have a natural gas line to the house. In the case of power loss or zombies or angry democrat operatives, does the natural gas line tends to remain working sufficiently to power a generator?

Posted by: Lance Magillicuddy at July 18, 2021 06:46 PM (zLdnv)

193 Water driven backup pumps are fantastic. Highly recommended.

Don't have to worry about battery power with them, especially as we live within about 1/2 mile of a water tower.

Worked a treat when I accidentally left the breaker to the sump off for a rainy weekend.

Posted by: egd at July 18, 2021 07:38 PM (cOB2v)

194 I don't know if it's on all the time or what the actual quality is but the fan on the inverter in the picture is probably going to fail first. Try to find a trickle charger without a fan. Muffin fans from China are junk.

That is why you haven't needed the pump yet because the system will still work until the fan goes and the batteries drain. This is part of advanced engineering screw-ups.

Single points of failure can be very subtle. It's Nature's way.

Posted by: pawn at July 18, 2021 07:58 PM (Cfk8j)

195 They make large propane fridges not just the little ones you see in RVs. The Amish like them.

Posted by: pawn at July 18, 2021 08:40 PM (Cfk8j)

196 Get the batteries off the concrete . Couple of slabs of plywood .

Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2021 09:21 PM (l1DGx)

197 In the end, that's not such a bad problem to have, in the first world or the third world.

Bottom line, your basement stays dry, but it's good to know you've got that second snow thrower just in case.

Posted by: Just G at July 19, 2021 05:31 PM (Y+lix)

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