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ANOTHER DEEP STATE COVER UP: US ATTORNEY KEPT CRIMINAL PROBE OF HUNTER BIDEN SECRET FOR A YEAR, TO AVOID HURTING JOE BIDEN'S POLITICAL FORTUNES
Last summer, federal officials in Delaware investigating Hunter Biden faced a dilemma. The probe had reached a point where prosecutors could have sought search warrants and issued a flurry of grand jury subpoenas. Some officials involved in the case wanted to do just that. Others urged caution. They advised Delaware's U.S. Attorney, David Weiss, to avoid taking any actions that could alert the public to the existence of the case in the middle of a presidential election. "To his credit, he listened," said a person involved in the discussions, reported here for the first time. Weiss decided to wait, averting the possibility that the investigation would become a months-long campaign issue."To his credit." And... which "officials" told the attorney to keep the probe secret?
Since taking office, President Joe Biden has left Weiss -- a Republican appointed by Donald Trump on the recommendation of Delaware's two Democratic senators -- in place. That puts him in one of the most sensitive positions in the Justice Department, deciding how to proceed with an investigation of the president's son that has proven politically fraught on several fronts.Joe Biden left the US Attorney who is protecting his son and who was favored by Democrat Senators in place. He's leaving in the attorney that Trump appointed. Note that recently, presidents have tended to fire every single US Attorney appointed by their opposite-party predecessor. But Biden's keeping this Solid Citizen in place, huh? Trump sure has great instincts when it comes to personnel. I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions. How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?
The probe, which is focused on possible tax law violations, has also examined Hunter Biden's business dealings with foreign interests -- a topic that has animated Biden detractors -- and its existence first came to light amid a controversy about the leak of Hunter Biden's laptop files.It animated "Biden detractors" -- but not the US media, who are Biden Supporters. Note the vague reference Politico makes to the laptop. This remains an Officially Unsayable Topic, so of course Politico will not tell you that the laptop includes emails in which Hunter Biden's business partners discuss "holding 10% for The Big Guy."
Since then, the case has become a political football: Some critics have suggested that the Trump administration's political agenda influenced a parallel federal probe that scrutinized Hunter Biden in Pittsburgh, while some Republicans have called for the appointment of a special prosecutor to shield Weiss's investigation from the influence of the Biden administration.Some Republicans called for that -- but most did not. They trust this US Attorney, beloved by liberals and by Joe Biden personally, to make unbiased decisions about whether or not to charge Biden's corrupt son. Raise your hands if you think that almost the entire GOP would demand a special prosecutor if Don Trump, Jr. were suspected of a crime. I hate this Controlled Opposition party. And I can't take the excuses about Trump being "badly served by his advisors" anymore. At what point can we finally say that he is to blame for his woes? And that it looks like he was largely responsible for the left being able to rig the election against him? For a guy I assumed was cagey, cynical-minded, and cunning, he has shown himself at every turn to be a complete patsy for the leftwing ruling junta. They have clowned him at every turn. I think it's because he thirsts for this corrupt junta's "respect." And I can't support anyone who wants the "respect" of the Ruling Junta. I will only support those who want the Ruling Junta's blood. I know Trump remains personally popular with many of you, but for me, this is it: This is the breaking point. He's fucked up too many times, trusted the left too many times. Trusted GOPe saboteurs too many times. I can only support someone for president who understands the full evil of the enemy. Not who consistently lets them clown him in an absurd bid for eventual acceptance by them. The support of conservatives ought to be enough for a supposed conservative. We shouldn't be thought of as second-rate. We shouldn't be considered a mere stepping stool to the real prize: Respect by the leftist establishment. If someone is always trying to gain the love and respect of the left -- like Paul Ryan, Asa Hutchinson, or Kristi Noem -- I have no use left for him. I should point out... the very real possibility -- or the likelihood -- that you cannot staff a government with conservatives when you draw from the Establishment GOP -- who are almost all country club Rockefeller Republican liberals. I've said it before, but I'm done with this party. I don't care if they win the midterms. If they win the midterms, that only confirms in their mind that leftwing corporate Karen Republicanism is the future.
Hmmm. Politicized inaction is now a virtue? Tigani case went nowhere and not because Delaware is squeaky clean. Politico the go-to outlet for regime Hunter Biden narrative: eg John Brennan’s letter trashing laptop as “Russian disinfo”. Prelude to whitewash https://t.co/dZRqCsV1HE
— Miranda Devine (@mirandadevine) July 16, 2021
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Flaming skull first!
Posted by: PabloD says start up the rotors at July 16, 2021 01:20 PM (7rD/F)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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That's one hell of a flaming skull alert.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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Flaming skull top 10!
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 16, 2021 01:21 PM (F0YaR)
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The hottest hair Joe ever sniffed
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 16, 2021 01:22 PM (ynpvh)
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Smell the skull!
Posted by: a trans sistor at July 16, 2021 01:22 PM (Tnijr)
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GOP leaders will be sending many harshly worded letters about this.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:22 PM (SOBYU)
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We are a banana republic.
Or maybe. . . a dildo republic?
We sure are getting screwed, that's for sure.
Or maybe. . . a dildo republic?
We sure are getting screwed, that's for sure.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 16, 2021 01:22 PM (bDqIh)
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Who told the media, and all the social media companies, to destroy the story?
The TV stations used to be controlled by DC, they've taken the SM stations as well.
Just creepy.
Remember, pizzagate is not real.
Who told the media, and all the social media companies, to destroy the story?
The TV stations used to be controlled by DC, they've taken the SM stations as well.
Just creepy.
Remember, pizzagate is not real.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 16, 2021 01:23 PM (NuVOb)
Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2021 01:23 PM (8/6aZ)
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Hiring dumba**es may be Trump's greatest unrecognized failing. Omarosa was an eye opener for me.
Posted by: Same at July 16, 2021 01:23 PM (Rb17p)
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It would've only made Biden win by 45M votes.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 01:24 PM (/BX3R)
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What if all the stuff we were told was Russian Disinformation was actually true?
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:24 PM (c3Hg2)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2021 01:24 PM (qmgN2)
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"To his credit" he agreed to protect the candidate who also happened to have the backing of the Globalists, Tech Oligarchs, MSM, almost all of DCI, the CIA/FBI/UMil and other bureaucracies.
How very stunning and brave!
How very stunning and brave!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 16, 2021 01:24 PM (bDqIh)
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Don't cha just love Friday afternoon news drops!!!???
Posted by: Diogenes at July 16, 2021 01:24 PM (axyOa)
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FirePlugs Skull is great skull.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 16, 2021 01:24 PM (uhPTO)
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Oh, don't forget this part:
"Some Republicans called for the appointment of a special prosecutor, but Barr called that step unnecessary."
"Some Republicans called for the appointment of a special prosecutor, but Barr called that step unnecessary."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 01:25 PM (/BX3R)
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Trump hired based on one thing and one thing only: loyalty. And all those supposed loyal people were scum and turned on him the second they could.
The first couple, ok fool me once. But after like 28th....come one dude.
The first couple, ok fool me once. But after like 28th....come one dude.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:25 PM (SOBYU)
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That poor little girl skull.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:25 PM (6Uwi1)
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Ace be mad, yo.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 01:25 PM (Y5qcH)
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"Some officials involved in the case wanted to do just that. Others urged caution."
Wonder if Barr or some of Barr's underlings were these "others".
"I know Trump remains personally popular with many of you, but for me, this is it: This is the breaking point. He's fucked up too many times, trusted the left too many times. Trusted GOPe saboteurs too many times."
As much as I want to disagree, I cannot (mostly).
If non-swampy people can't be found for govt positions, leave 'em open.
Wonder if Barr or some of Barr's underlings were these "others".
"I know Trump remains personally popular with many of you, but for me, this is it: This is the breaking point. He's fucked up too many times, trusted the left too many times. Trusted GOPe saboteurs too many times."
As much as I want to disagree, I cannot (mostly).
If non-swampy people can't be found for govt positions, leave 'em open.
Posted by: Thrawn at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (5aFbR)
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That's a hot take.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (BFigT)
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We shoulda gotten that witch Senator instead
Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (Wp/Pv)
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while some Republicans have called for the appointment of a special prosecutor to shield Weiss's investigation from the influence of the Biden administration.
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Hang on a moment here. This makes no sense. Weiss is a Deep State operator, recommended by the Left. He buried this to protect Biden's campaign. How would assigning a special prosecutor to him help? He isn't being hindered from his investigation by the Biden administration. He would be if he tried, but it didn't - and won't - get that far. He's actively burying this. Giving him special counsel (or protection from special counsel) won't make a lick of difference because he's *already on the other side.*
This is just more failure theater, and the Republicans are fucking even that up.
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Hang on a moment here. This makes no sense. Weiss is a Deep State operator, recommended by the Left. He buried this to protect Biden's campaign. How would assigning a special prosecutor to him help? He isn't being hindered from his investigation by the Biden administration. He would be if he tried, but it didn't - and won't - get that far. He's actively burying this. Giving him special counsel (or protection from special counsel) won't make a lick of difference because he's *already on the other side.*
This is just more failure theater, and the Republicans are fucking even that up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (3p5uk)
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Deep State, busy deep statin'.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (YV6PJ)
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I agree, Ace. I don't even watch his speeches or read anything he says any more. Sad but true.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (OssQ4)
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Has Trump ever commented on his terrible record of selecting and hiring the people around him? Would love to know what he thinks about this.
Posted by: Joanie Cunningham's Tenacious Snapper at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (YeToG)
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Personnel is policy. This x1000.
I do blame Trump, because he doesn't have any care for the details or frankly, hard work that doesn't involve him at the center of attention. He's great at campaigning, because he gets to be the focus of everyone's attention. He also (to his credit) did criminal justice reform. However, this got his attention because it was the pet project of a few fellow celebrities.
If it was a mundane, boring issue, Trump couldn't be bothered to care. So, people stroked his ego, and he responded. People criticized him, and he would go scorched earth. There was no in-between. (part 1)
I do blame Trump, because he doesn't have any care for the details or frankly, hard work that doesn't involve him at the center of attention. He's great at campaigning, because he gets to be the focus of everyone's attention. He also (to his credit) did criminal justice reform. However, this got his attention because it was the pet project of a few fellow celebrities.
If it was a mundane, boring issue, Trump couldn't be bothered to care. So, people stroked his ego, and he responded. People criticized him, and he would go scorched earth. There was no in-between. (part 1)
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (a/dOO)
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (6Uwi1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (s2VJv)
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a topic that has animated Biden detractors
and Kulaks
and hoarders
and profiteers
and black marketers (think drugs not Kanye)
and capitalists
and Kulaks
and hoarders
and profiteers
and black marketers (think drugs not Kanye)
and capitalists
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (yrol0)
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Flambe Skull!
Flambe Skull!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (n+4am)
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"I can only support someone for president who understands the full evil of the enemy."
And is willing to do what it takes to shut them down.
And is willing to do what it takes to shut them down.
Posted by: Jenjis Conn at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (Tnijr)
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I know Trump remains personally popular with many of you, but for me, this is it: This is the breaking point. He's fucked up too many times, trusted the left too many times. Trusted GOPe saboteurs too many times.
OK, then - with the GOP, Democrats, MFM and, as we now know, the military ready to take him out the moment he really tried to clean house, what should Trump have done?
And - what would it take to make you think he's learned his lesson, Ace? Or do you think he never will?
OK, then - with the GOP, Democrats, MFM and, as we now know, the military ready to take him out the moment he really tried to clean house, what should Trump have done?
And - what would it take to make you think he's learned his lesson, Ace? Or do you think he never will?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (2JVJo)
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So who can we support? It's not like there's a candidate that is promising to club every leftist in DC with a 2x4 available.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (Y5qcH)
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He was in a no win situation and did make mistakes listening to his "advisers" that told him to leave things alone to appease the leftist bastards that were going to fuck him 9 ways to Sunday regardless of ANYTHING he did.......
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (Zz0t1)
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I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions.
I've always been fine with criticizing Trump. My beef with this recurring complaint about Trump's picks are that they are never accompanied by a mention of who Trump should have picked instead. "Anybody else" generally isn't a serious criticism. You go to war with the army you have, and unfortunately conservatives don't really have one at all. Republicans aren't interested in conservatives' goals by and large. You can't simultaneously beat the drum that our own party has betrayed us at every level but then be mad that Trump only had traitors to pick from.
I've always been fine with criticizing Trump. My beef with this recurring complaint about Trump's picks are that they are never accompanied by a mention of who Trump should have picked instead. "Anybody else" generally isn't a serious criticism. You go to war with the army you have, and unfortunately conservatives don't really have one at all. Republicans aren't interested in conservatives' goals by and large. You can't simultaneously beat the drum that our own party has betrayed us at every level but then be mad that Trump only had traitors to pick from.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (QU5/8)
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For me, it was when Vladimir fuckin Putin spoke out about Ashli's Babbitt's murder before Trump ever did.
#EmptyTheDCGulag
#EmptyTheDCGulag
Posted by: GrungeVet at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (a3Jbo)
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (6Uwi1)
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24 We shoulda gotten that witch Senator instead
Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (Wp/Pv)
Christine O'Donnell. Instead, it's that undescended testicle Coons.
Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (Wp/Pv)
Christine O'Donnell. Instead, it's that undescended testicle Coons.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (s2VJv)
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Before your final paragraph, I was going to post how this was the last Trump fuckup I will tolerate.
DeSantis 2024
Winning without overt narcissism/nepotism.
DeSantis 2024
Winning without overt narcissism/nepotism.
Posted by: Valiant at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (3MiF8)
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Can't investigate a politician or his family in the middle of an election because muh optics (unless it's Golden Scalp Weasel). Elections cycles are now stretched to essentially be never ending. Therefore, it's Literally Hitler to investigate a Dem pol. QED.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (DXFDM)
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What scares me is Trump's judgement on many of his picks. What the fuck was he thinking with some of these- that Democrats would like him better?
No, really, I want to know. Trump revealed that he picked Milley because Mattis didn't like him. Really? What the actual fuck? Is that the same illogic we can expect if Trump runs again?
Between SCOTUS and some cabinet picks Trump actually hurt the effort to wind these people in. Now that we've seen a Demented old asshole go scorched earth across our entire government, it's pretty clear there were tremendous opportunities missed during Trump's administration.
No, really, I want to know. Trump revealed that he picked Milley because Mattis didn't like him. Really? What the actual fuck? Is that the same illogic we can expect if Trump runs again?
Between SCOTUS and some cabinet picks Trump actually hurt the effort to wind these people in. Now that we've seen a Demented old asshole go scorched earth across our entire government, it's pretty clear there were tremendous opportunities missed during Trump's administration.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (bqcn9)
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Flaming skulls with training bras,
waiting for a train,
was feeling near as faded as my jeans...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (s2VJv)
So this Juliette gal, what is she 11 or 10?
Flaming skulls with training bras,
waiting for a train,
was feeling near as faded as my jeans...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (s2VJv)
So this Juliette gal, what is she 11 or 10?
Posted by: Hunter the actor at July 16, 2021 01:29 PM (yrol0)
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The 1952 version of Barbara Stanwyck in a slinky chemise in Clash By Night is quite interesting. On TCM.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 16, 2021 01:29 PM (ufFY8)
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And note, sadly and maybe hilariously, that Trump appointed this attorney -- on the advice of Delaware's two Democrat senators.
The Golden Scalpweasel didn't know any of the Deep State Swamp creatures who were actually running Shuck Fumer's DC mafia, so I don't really blame him. He counted on Washington people having at least some professionalism, which we now know they don't. Also, #Resist.
The Golden Scalpweasel didn't know any of the Deep State Swamp creatures who were actually running Shuck Fumer's DC mafia, so I don't really blame him. He counted on Washington people having at least some professionalism, which we now know they don't. Also, #Resist.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 16, 2021 01:29 PM (HaL55)
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Has Trump ever commented on his terrible record of selecting and hiring the people around him? Would love to know what he thinks about this.
Posted by: Joanie Cunningham's Tenacious Snapper at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (YeToG)
The people around him, the swamp creatures that fill these positions for both parties, are everywhere...PDT never had a chance. Most so called republicans are dog shit RINOs
Posted by: Joanie Cunningham's Tenacious Snapper at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (YeToG)
The people around him, the swamp creatures that fill these positions for both parties, are everywhere...PDT never had a chance. Most so called republicans are dog shit RINOs
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:29 PM (GPwVZ)
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19 Trump hired based on one thing and one thing only: loyalty. And all those supposed loyal people were scum and turned on him the second they could.
The first couple, ok fool me once. But after like 28th....come one dude.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:25 PM (SOBYU)
He didn't hire for loyalty. None of his preferred (which were rejected) were people with personal loyalty and history to him, and the 'vetted' list he was forced to work with certainly weren't. He hired based on 'what will the Senate approve', although the rejected Round 1 picks were more history of competence oriented.
The first couple, ok fool me once. But after like 28th....come one dude.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:25 PM (SOBYU)
He didn't hire for loyalty. None of his preferred (which were rejected) were people with personal loyalty and history to him, and the 'vetted' list he was forced to work with certainly weren't. He hired based on 'what will the Senate approve', although the rejected Round 1 picks were more history of competence oriented.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:29 PM (z5Vrg)
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Ouch.
This isn't really a sensitive subject for me anymore, because I decided a while ago that DeSantis is the better choice for 2024 since....well, you pick a reason.
Going forward, I'll mainly be curious to see whether or not he supplants Trump among the base. At the moment, I'm putting 60/40 odds on Trump, but that could change.
This isn't really a sensitive subject for me anymore, because I decided a while ago that DeSantis is the better choice for 2024 since....well, you pick a reason.
Going forward, I'll mainly be curious to see whether or not he supplants Trump among the base. At the moment, I'm putting 60/40 odds on Trump, but that could change.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 16, 2021 01:29 PM (Vgw1E)
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Straight shooters, one and all! In fact, our government has so many straight shooters, it's an infestation!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 01:29 PM (2SdPm)
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"I can only support someone for president who understands the full evil of the enemy."
And is willing to do what it takes to shut them down.
Posted by: Jenjis Conn at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (Tnijr)
I repeat what I said above - if "what it takes" means martial law, military tribunals, summary executions and more - who is going to obey those orders?
And is willing to do what it takes to shut them down.
Posted by: Jenjis Conn at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (Tnijr)
I repeat what I said above - if "what it takes" means martial law, military tribunals, summary executions and more - who is going to obey those orders?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (2JVJo)
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Swamp protects the swamp.
It's why whoever the nominee is in 2024 has to promise to fire everyone the moment he or she is sworn in. If you're told you can't fire them, fire them anyway. Let the courts sort it out.
The sole purpose of every new hire should be the dissolvement of the entity you are being hired to serve. Anyone who says 'this cannot be done' or 'well the reaction in the papers is...' is also immediately fired.
It's why whoever the nominee is in 2024 has to promise to fire everyone the moment he or she is sworn in. If you're told you can't fire them, fire them anyway. Let the courts sort it out.
The sole purpose of every new hire should be the dissolvement of the entity you are being hired to serve. Anyone who says 'this cannot be done' or 'well the reaction in the papers is...' is also immediately fired.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (khAeP)
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43 Can't investigate a politician or his family in the middle of an election because muh optics (unless it's Golden Scalp Weasel). Elections cycles are now stretched to essentially be never ending. Therefore, it's Literally Hitler to investigate a Dem pol. QED.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (DXFDM)
And somehow "our democracy" is so sacred that electing criminals is just the way things are done.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (DXFDM)
And somehow "our democracy" is so sacred that electing criminals is just the way things are done.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (Y5qcH)
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What's bizarre-world awesome is that this is the same guy agitating for Gun Control via the Red Herring of Illegal Gun Sales while his Junta shelters his illegal Gun Owning Son from the 'Law'.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (6Uwi1)
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i added this
I should point out... the very real possibility -- or the likelihood -- that you cannot staff a government with conservatives when you draw from the Establishment GOP -- who are almost all country club Rockefeller Republican liberals.
I've said it before, but I'm done with this party. I don't care if they win the midterms. If they win the midterms, that only confirms in their mind that leftwing corporate Karen Republicanism is the future.
I should point out... the very real possibility -- or the likelihood -- that you cannot staff a government with conservatives when you draw from the Establishment GOP -- who are almost all country club Rockefeller Republican liberals.
I've said it before, but I'm done with this party. I don't care if they win the midterms. If they win the midterms, that only confirms in their mind that leftwing corporate Karen Republicanism is the future.
Posted by: ace at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (0G13K)
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I was one who was willing to give Bill Barr the benefit of the doubt... until I learned Bill Barr was recruited by the CIA when he was still in college, and his daddy was the one who hired Epstein to come work at a swanky private school full of adolescents, when Epstein didn't even have a college degree. And then I realized, Trump is surrounded by traitors, and somehow he keeps getting super into hiring more.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (YV6PJ)
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40 >>I will only support those who want the Ruling Junta's blood.
So much this.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (6Uwi1)
i saw Ruling Junta's Blood open for War at The State Fair of Texas Main Stage in 1977.
So much this.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (6Uwi1)
i saw Ruling Junta's Blood open for War at The State Fair of Texas Main Stage in 1977.
Posted by: Hunter the actor at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (yrol0)
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I hope to God Trump does not run again.. but I know in my heart he will, and fuck up 2024.
While I liked a lot of what he did, he was an eff'n doofus on appointments.
Just add this one to a very large pile of turd appointments.
While I liked a lot of what he did, he was an eff'n doofus on appointments.
Just add this one to a very large pile of turd appointments.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (CjFDo)
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Even after 4 years DJT still could not understand being CRO and being president is different. He just assumed people he hired would do what they were told. CEO tells a VO do this, the VP does it. Trump treated his cabinet as a group of VPs and the. A group of directors below them who run agencies, and so on.
He then wrongly assumed they would all be onboard with what he said. If not they would be fired. That is not how politics works though. Everyone has their own agenda. And Trump never understood that I think.
He then wrongly assumed they would all be onboard with what he said. If not they would be fired. That is not how politics works though. Everyone has their own agenda. And Trump never understood that I think.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (SOBYU)
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Trump made some mistakes and was unprepared to deal with the fraud that stole the election.
But my #1 criteria still remains whether you will personally fuck me over, whether for convenience or profit, and in an absolute sea of treachery and get-aheadism, and in a world where he might have been able to make his life easier for it, Trump refused to ever do so.
He didn't even do it on icky social issues that mean so much to the backwards people. In fact he took the lead on some of them. All of that is worth more to me than whether the Left won some big battles against him.
But my #1 criteria still remains whether you will personally fuck me over, whether for convenience or profit, and in an absolute sea of treachery and get-aheadism, and in a world where he might have been able to make his life easier for it, Trump refused to ever do so.
He didn't even do it on icky social issues that mean so much to the backwards people. In fact he took the lead on some of them. All of that is worth more to me than whether the Left won some big battles against him.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (c3Hg2)
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I've always been fine with criticizing Trump. My beef with this recurring complaint about Trump's picks are that they are never accompanied by a mention of who Trump should have picked instead. "Anybody else" generally isn't a serious criticism. You go to war with the army you have, and unfortunately conservatives don't really have one at all. Republicans aren't interested in conservatives' goals by and large. You can't simultaneously beat the drum that our own party has betrayed us at every level but then be mad that Trump only had traitors to pick from.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (QU5/
It's easy, just pick a firebreathing reliable right-winger that the Senate will approve. I've added a convenient list below.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (QU5/
It's easy, just pick a firebreathing reliable right-winger that the Senate will approve. I've added a convenient list below.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (z5Vrg)
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I've always been fine with criticizing Trump. My beef with this recurring complaint about Trump's picks are that they are never accompanied by a mention of who Trump should have picked instead. "Anybody else" generally isn't a serious criticism. You go to war with the army you have, and unfortunately conservatives don't really have one at all. Republicans aren't interested in conservatives' goals by and large. You can't simultaneously beat the drum that our own party has betrayed us at every level but then be mad that Trump only had traitors to pick from.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (QU5/
And like it or not Trump's picks have to get through the Senate. The reason he picked someone whom both DE senators approved of was because if he hadn't, they would have blocked it, and McConnell would have permitted them to do so.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (QU5/
And like it or not Trump's picks have to get through the Senate. The reason he picked someone whom both DE senators approved of was because if he hadn't, they would have blocked it, and McConnell would have permitted them to do so.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (jOcSX)
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I think Trump has made some bad personnel decisions, but I don't think he had a lot of choices, he had zero people he could count on for good recommendations. I'm not sure anyone could have seen how deep this rot was and is. I'm sure he has figured out that he can't trust anyone anymore, but the problem will be the same, whether it's him or somebody else, the GOPe and deep state and military complex hold all the cards and as we learned the last 4 years, the president has very little power if he goes against the stream.
Posted by: spypeach at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (Up/Jb)
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Let's just spell this out to be clear: a presidential candidate's son, who has been the contact/bagman for the candidates pay-to-play services for 3 decades, including foreign states, abandoned an laptop filled to capacity of HIGHLY INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE OF CORRUPTION, BUSINESS WITH CCP SPY CHIEF, AS WELL AS SEX/DRUG USE WITH FAMILY AND UNDERAGE HOOKERS and they did nothing.
This was the greatest slam dunk od all time for a prosecutor and "too his credit" he did nothing.
Pretty sure "too his credit" = after lavish compensation and/or on threat of assassination.
This was the greatest slam dunk od all time for a prosecutor and "too his credit" he did nothing.
Pretty sure "too his credit" = after lavish compensation and/or on threat of assassination.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (bDqIh)
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24 We shoulda gotten that witch Senator instead
Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (Wp/Pv)
Her existence is solely the fault of the GOP of Delaware. Want to blame someone for losing that seat? Blame them, not the tea party.
Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (Wp/Pv)
Her existence is solely the fault of the GOP of Delaware. Want to blame someone for losing that seat? Blame them, not the tea party.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (vMCab)
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I guarantee you that this US atty has all the right contacts in DC to be recommended for the position. I also guarantee you Trump, never being in government, took the word of OPM bureaucrats who vetted the names put forward. Trump's Achilles heel was he assumed there were 'good' people working in govt and would accede to electoral results. He was wrong.
Posted by: Jcelephant at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (/ZJ5D)
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Trump should have personally conducted background checks and interviews on the thousands of hires that had to occur under him instead of trying to generate good will among his fellow Republican politicians and taking them at their recommendation.
Posted by: Manco at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (he2ZZ)
Posted by: SkyNet at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (yQpMk)
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Oh, and I'm sure this will be a calm and reasoned discussion about Trump. Yippee.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (DXFDM)
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Between SCOTUS and some cabinet picks Trump actually hurt the effort to wind these people in. Now that we've seen a Demented old asshole go scorched earth across our entire government, it's pretty clear there were tremendous opportunities missed during Trump's administration.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (bqcn9)
There were no good choices. We have to start all over again and get rid of all career people. But one thing that PDT did, much like what Ehud Barak did at Camp David, is wipe the veneer from our enemies: Arafat never wanted peace and the dems and RINOs will never compromise or give up. Know your enemy is the first step in defeating them
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (bqcn9)
There were no good choices. We have to start all over again and get rid of all career people. But one thing that PDT did, much like what Ehud Barak did at Camp David, is wipe the veneer from our enemies: Arafat never wanted peace and the dems and RINOs will never compromise or give up. Know your enemy is the first step in defeating them
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (GPwVZ)
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So people are pointing out that Trump wasn't a DC lifer politician with career-/life-long political knowledge of all of the embedded deep state actors?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (/BX3R)
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I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions.
How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?
Me, for one. Now I certainly don't think he was perfect; far from it when it came to personnel. But as an outsider, "the fix was in". Every choice became a bad one, his core group included the like of Chris Christie, Jeff Sessions, and so on. Bannon was great (his Warroom is drawing a yuge audience) but he dissed Trump's family in a drunken rant...
I can go on and on. When everyone seems to be against you, and actually IS, what are you supposed to do?
Hopefully DeSantis will have an answer to this, plus a political group of allies. Trump's ass was hanging in the wind.
How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?
Me, for one. Now I certainly don't think he was perfect; far from it when it came to personnel. But as an outsider, "the fix was in". Every choice became a bad one, his core group included the like of Chris Christie, Jeff Sessions, and so on. Bannon was great (his Warroom is drawing a yuge audience) but he dissed Trump's family in a drunken rant...
I can go on and on. When everyone seems to be against you, and actually IS, what are you supposed to do?
Hopefully DeSantis will have an answer to this, plus a political group of allies. Trump's ass was hanging in the wind.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (F0YaR)
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I can only support someone for president who understands the full evil of the enemy. Not who consistently lets them clown him in an absurd bid for eventual acceptance by them.
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Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (8/6aZ)
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Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (CjFDo)
For context, you didn't want him to run in 2016 either.
For context, you didn't want him to run in 2016 either.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (c3Hg2)
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They covered it up in summer 2020, it's summer 2021 now. Indictments any day now right?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (O7b05)
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https://twitter.com/Shanghaibeast/status/1416038244265861120
Posted by: SMOD at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (RHGPo)
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Duped. Why autocucumber duped to super? Why??
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (YV6PJ)
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"I will only support those who want the Ruling Junta's blood. "
I want their teeth on a necklace. Anyone who doesn't have an innate war-like attitude about restoring our democracy should get the fuck out of the way and go play parcheesi.
I want their teeth on a necklace. Anyone who doesn't have an innate war-like attitude about restoring our democracy should get the fuck out of the way and go play parcheesi.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (bqcn9)
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I blame Trump somewhat for his choices, but everyone lied to him. He wouldn't have the time to investigate every single person himself, and anyone he hired to do so would more than likely work against him.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (E+OcO)
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I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions.
How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?
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Trump bears full responsibility for his personnel decisions, many of them terrible. Some of it is excused by the extreme resistance Trump faced, and the internal sabotage of his party.
If he is running again, he needs to do now what every major establishment candidate does -- he needs to build a "shadow" government of people that he's going to tap for these roles. And, if elected, he needs to force them through the Senate (if confirmation is required).
How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?
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Trump bears full responsibility for his personnel decisions, many of them terrible. Some of it is excused by the extreme resistance Trump faced, and the internal sabotage of his party.
If he is running again, he needs to do now what every major establishment candidate does -- he needs to build a "shadow" government of people that he's going to tap for these roles. And, if elected, he needs to force them through the Senate (if confirmation is required).
Posted by: Revenant at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (s3j76)
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Trump assumed that most people love their county.
He was wrong.
Posted by: SkyNet at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (yQpMk)
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I am not sure about that. It might be a majority that does.
In government, though, it is a vanishingly small number. It might actually be zero.
He was wrong.
Posted by: SkyNet at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (yQpMk)
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I am not sure about that. It might be a majority that does.
In government, though, it is a vanishingly small number. It might actually be zero.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (3p5uk)
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We are living in a decreasingly soft tyranny getting worse by the day.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (y7DUB)
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My theory is that Trump never expected to win, so he never spent time amassing an army of sycophants and remoras that wanted jobs in his administration. As loathesome as I find the "shadow cabinet" hangers-on that accompanies every politician, at least that structure gives candidates a Rolodex to call during the transition.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (Agr8U)
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I agree, Ace.
I don't have anything else to say. I guess I'd say "put not your faith in princes"
Govt too big. Govt needs to fall.
It's going to be painful, but there's no way out anymore.
I don't have anything else to say. I guess I'd say "put not your faith in princes"
Govt too big. Govt needs to fall.
It's going to be painful, but there's no way out anymore.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (j9HX3)
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It's almost as if the GOPe is deliberately trying to lose.
Posted by: The Washington Generals at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (63Dwl)
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My standard excuse for DJT's actions/decisions is Hilz was the temporary alternative. The real world is a steamroller, baby.
His advisor crew was full of filthy in-debt careerists with filthy secrets to conceal. My opinion.
His advisor crew was full of filthy in-debt careerists with filthy secrets to conceal. My opinion.
Posted by: klaftern at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (r4sI4)
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IT'S A PANDEMIC OF THE UNVACCINATED RAAWWK!
Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (Tnijr)
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I don't assess Trump nearly as harshly as Ace does... I think he tried his best - and that's more than I can say for literally any other living Republican except for Devin Nunes.
And I also think that anybody who was actually trying to turn this thing around would have met the same result. You can't build a strong team and get things done when you're the only person in government who isn't a Statist thug.
There is simply nobody on the Right you can hire - because, and this is the important part, there is nobody on the Right in the federal government anymore, and there never will be again. This is what total institutional capture looks like.
That said, I would not support Trump for another Presidential run or anything else, unless he formally leaves the Republican Party, and refuses to lend his support to any Republican. Which I think is an incredibly unlikely development.
Membership in the Party is an absolute deal-breaker for me, and it has been for years. I made one single exception for Trump, and his Presidency was an object lesson in why I shouldn't have.
I don't assess Trump nearly as harshly as Ace does... I think he tried his best - and that's more than I can say for literally any other living Republican except for Devin Nunes.
And I also think that anybody who was actually trying to turn this thing around would have met the same result. You can't build a strong team and get things done when you're the only person in government who isn't a Statist thug.
There is simply nobody on the Right you can hire - because, and this is the important part, there is nobody on the Right in the federal government anymore, and there never will be again. This is what total institutional capture looks like.
That said, I would not support Trump for another Presidential run or anything else, unless he formally leaves the Republican Party, and refuses to lend his support to any Republican. Which I think is an incredibly unlikely development.
Membership in the Party is an absolute deal-breaker for me, and it has been for years. I made one single exception for Trump, and his Presidency was an object lesson in why I shouldn't have.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (7Ttpp)
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(part 2)
But I also blame GOPe. I mentioned on a thread last week, there are hundred of political appointee positions, and semi-political positions such as U.S Attorneys. You have to get Senate approval for them all, and it's not likely you can come up with a list of solid conservatives who could fill every position. So, you grease a few hands by going along with the nomination of a U.S. Attorney desired by a couple of Senators, both Romney-type and actuals Democrats.
One of these semi-political spots ends up in a key position a few years later. Easy to criticize in hindsight, but what about at the time of appointment? If you're cobbling together votes for tax reform or other priority, do you really want to burn a bridge over a traditionally lower priority Justice Department position?
Again, I don't excuse Trump, because he never cared about details. But the massive clusterfuck that is the federal government and political appointees also contributes to this.
But I also blame GOPe. I mentioned on a thread last week, there are hundred of political appointee positions, and semi-political positions such as U.S Attorneys. You have to get Senate approval for them all, and it's not likely you can come up with a list of solid conservatives who could fill every position. So, you grease a few hands by going along with the nomination of a U.S. Attorney desired by a couple of Senators, both Romney-type and actuals Democrats.
One of these semi-political spots ends up in a key position a few years later. Easy to criticize in hindsight, but what about at the time of appointment? If you're cobbling together votes for tax reform or other priority, do you really want to burn a bridge over a traditionally lower priority Justice Department position?
Again, I don't excuse Trump, because he never cared about details. But the massive clusterfuck that is the federal government and political appointees also contributes to this.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (a/dOO)
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I can't disagree. One of the sticking points for me in 2024 will be if Trump makes better personnel choices leading up to the election.
I'd like to think he gets the second choice better, Pompeo was better than Tillerson. But there are a lot of bad actors that he left in place. Allowing open insubordination in the DOD and DOJ was stupid. He should have just fired all the US attorneys and let the chips fall.
But if he decides to run, he will win the nomination. There is no getting around that.
I'd like to think he gets the second choice better, Pompeo was better than Tillerson. But there are a lot of bad actors that he left in place. Allowing open insubordination in the DOD and DOJ was stupid. He should have just fired all the US attorneys and let the chips fall.
But if he decides to run, he will win the nomination. There is no getting around that.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (5p7BC)
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War at The State Fair of Texas would make a great band name.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (HaL55)
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In government, though, it is a vanishingly small number. It might actually be zero.
our government is now a cartel
our government is now a cartel
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (j9HX3)
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If non-swampy people can't be found for govt positions, leave 'em open.
Alternatively, eliminate the position.
Alternatively, eliminate the position.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (TAyES)
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This isn't really a sensitive subject for me anymore, because I decided a while ago that DeSantis is the better choice for 2024 since....well, you pick a reason.
Anyone who thinks DeSantis' picks will be better is a moron. He'd have the same issues as Trump: any loyalists from Florida will be blocked by the DC cabal, while "friendly" GOP senators helpfully provide a list of names who would easily sail through confirmation.
Anyone who thinks DeSantis' picks will be better is a moron. He'd have the same issues as Trump: any loyalists from Florida will be blocked by the DC cabal, while "friendly" GOP senators helpfully provide a list of names who would easily sail through confirmation.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (jOcSX)
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Yeah, I think Trump was expecting govt employees to act like business employees and expect them to do their job. I believe he has learned that lesson but say it was you or me who you rely on advice from? somebody in DC or a dem? Never. But you have to rely on somebody and the whole of govt is corrupt. I, to my everlasting shame actually thought Paul Ryan was a conservative.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (r+sAi)
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I repeat what I said above - if "what it takes" means martial law, military tribunals, summary executions and more - who is going to obey those orders?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (2JVJo)
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We've seen the answer over the last five years, up to and including today.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (2JVJo)
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We've seen the answer over the last five years, up to and including today.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (/BX3R)
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67 I guarantee you that this US atty has all the right contacts in DC to be recommended for the position. I also guarantee you Trump, never being in government, took the word of OPM bureaucrats who vetted the names put forward. Trump's Achilles heel was he assumed there were 'good' people working in govt and would accede to electoral results. He was wrong.
Posted by: Jcelephant at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (/ZJ5D)
You mean the same OPM that leaked my data to the ChiComms up to and maybe including my FS 86?
Posted by: Jcelephant at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (/ZJ5D)
You mean the same OPM that leaked my data to the ChiComms up to and maybe including my FS 86?
Posted by: Hunter the actor at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (yrol0)
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off pole dancer fucker sox
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (yrol0)
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I think Trump did as well as he could and might be smarter a second time around, but I don't want him to run again anyway. Unless no one else shows up. Then why not?
Posted by: f'd at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (Tnijr)
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Yeah whatever. Trump was an utter disaster when it came to Law and Order and Fiscal Responsibility.
But he did reduce: taxes, regulation, foreign invasion, terrorism and the routine ass fucking we got from everyone else on the planet.
Consider that most of the West Wing and even his own VP were/are communists who hate America with all of their heart, soul, mind and strength - and yet he did fairly well.
Lets say that you had someone with America's best interest in place and the cut-throat efficiency and will as someone like Putin. I don't think that there would be much difference unless Putin would be permitted to have Clinton Regime like body counts.
But he did reduce: taxes, regulation, foreign invasion, terrorism and the routine ass fucking we got from everyone else on the planet.
Consider that most of the West Wing and even his own VP were/are communists who hate America with all of their heart, soul, mind and strength - and yet he did fairly well.
Lets say that you had someone with America's best interest in place and the cut-throat efficiency and will as someone like Putin. I don't think that there would be much difference unless Putin would be permitted to have Clinton Regime like body counts.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (eRIsq)
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75 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 16, 2021 01:30 PM (CjFDo)
For context, you didn't want him to run in 2016 either.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (c3Hg2)
And he thinks that Trump's mean tweets lost the election and not that the democrats cheated on a mass scale.
For context, you didn't want him to run in 2016 either.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (c3Hg2)
And he thinks that Trump's mean tweets lost the election and not that the democrats cheated on a mass scale.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (vMCab)
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Y'know, shrinking the size of the Federal
govt workforce is a good idea on several levels.
How much money do we spend on appointees' and bureaucrat salaries and benefits?
I see a major source of potential savings.
govt workforce is a good idea on several levels.
How much money do we spend on appointees' and bureaucrat salaries and benefits?
I see a major source of potential savings.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (l8gTz)
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If non-swampy people can't be found for govt positions, leave 'em open.
Posted by: Thrawn at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (5aFbR)
That means career bureaucrats serve as Acting Heads. That's not really a great solution, either. They have somewhat less authority, but they are also harder to get rid of.
Posted by: Thrawn at July 16, 2021 01:26 PM (5aFbR)
That means career bureaucrats serve as Acting Heads. That's not really a great solution, either. They have somewhat less authority, but they are also harder to get rid of.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (a/dOO)
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Between SCOTUS and some cabinet picks Trump actually hurt the effort to wind these people in. Now that we've seen a Demented old asshole go scorched earth across our entire government, it's pretty clear there were tremendous opportunities missed during Trump's administration.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (bqcn9)
I will say that I believed at the time Trump's SCOTUS picks were all solid: maybe just a tad iffy on Barrett, but otherwise solid. You can't always predict what these people will do on the bench **cough cough** O'Connor **cough cough**
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (bqcn9)
I will say that I believed at the time Trump's SCOTUS picks were all solid: maybe just a tad iffy on Barrett, but otherwise solid. You can't always predict what these people will do on the bench **cough cough** O'Connor **cough cough**
Posted by: Dr. T at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (Vgw1E)
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Alternatively, eliminate the position.
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If you aren't required to come to work when it snows, you are now part time without benefits.
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If you aren't required to come to work when it snows, you are now part time without benefits.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (/BX3R)
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The toughest one to defend his Sessions. That didn't even win him any "respect" from the Establishment.
Posted by: Wally at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (Cge5i)
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If you think a Ron DeSantis or any other Republican is going pick Federal judges any better I've got a bridge to sell you. Out of 50 picks you're lucky if 2 turn out decent. The problem is they pick from lawyers.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (qH6FZ)
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Could Trump have know that Weiss was a shitweasel at the time of the appointment?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (ZrEFc)
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92 War at The State Fair of Texas would make a great band name.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (HaL55)
What is it good for, Fletchers Corndogs and a Shiner
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 16, 2021 01:33 PM (HaL55)
What is it good for, Fletchers Corndogs and a Shiner
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (yrol0)
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Every appointment Trump made was from the same group Biden and Obama made appointments. Life long DC swamp creatures who went to Yale law school or similar.
Why not someone from Ohio or Kansas? How about an AG from Wyoming? Why did it have to be Sessions and Barr, both people who were entrenched in the DC ways?
He talked a big game about draining the swamp but his entire administration was run by swamp dwellers.
Why not someone from Ohio or Kansas? How about an AG from Wyoming? Why did it have to be Sessions and Barr, both people who were entrenched in the DC ways?
He talked a big game about draining the swamp but his entire administration was run by swamp dwellers.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (SOBYU)
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If you want to know what happened to PDT, look no further than the mid terms.
The GOP controlled the House and purposely threw it back to the Dems.
The GOP was never interested in working with PDT, and, by extension, with Americans.
The GOP controlled the House and purposely threw it back to the Dems.
The GOP was never interested in working with PDT, and, by extension, with Americans.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (2SdPm)
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The tent keeps getting smaller and smaller. Purity spiral.
Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (qpX6U)
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That said, I would not support Trump for another Presidential run or anything else, unless he formally leaves the Republican Party, and refuses to lend his support to any Republican. Which I think is an incredibly unlikely development.
Membership in the Party is an absolute deal-breaker for me, and it has been for years. I made one single exception for Trump, and his Presidency was an object lesson in why I shouldn't have.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (7Ttpp)
It's important to understand that the Republican party is the primary impediment to right-wing political objectives. Not that Trump didn't do what he could with the power available to the President, the problem is that alone is insufficient.
Membership in the Party is an absolute deal-breaker for me, and it has been for years. I made one single exception for Trump, and his Presidency was an object lesson in why I shouldn't have.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (7Ttpp)
It's important to understand that the Republican party is the primary impediment to right-wing political objectives. Not that Trump didn't do what he could with the power available to the President, the problem is that alone is insufficient.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (z5Vrg)
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Yeah he made some terrible choices, Tillerson being one of them. Even I could have told him about that one going in.
Posted by: f'd at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (Tnijr)
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"There were no good choices. We have to start all over again and get rid of all career people. But one thing that PDT did, much like what Ehud Barak did at Camp David, is wipe the veneer from our enemies: Arafat never wanted peace and the dems and RINOs will never compromise or give up. Know your enemy is the first step in defeating them
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (GPwVZ)"
You wipe out the enemy with a war of attrition. Not by appointing shitty people who undermine your agenda. People you deliberately picked. That's horrible leadership, especially since we were fed the bullshit about how good Trump was at picking people. That's complete garbage given his track record. Even when you look retrospectively at what this junta has done in a short time, it's pretty easy to see that Trump also failed to look at the field and take advantage of the enemy. He's easily distracted and prone to narcissistic impulses. That means we all lose. If he continues down the road and doesn't change, he's really not the guy we need leading the charge.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (GPwVZ)"
You wipe out the enemy with a war of attrition. Not by appointing shitty people who undermine your agenda. People you deliberately picked. That's horrible leadership, especially since we were fed the bullshit about how good Trump was at picking people. That's complete garbage given his track record. Even when you look retrospectively at what this junta has done in a short time, it's pretty easy to see that Trump also failed to look at the field and take advantage of the enemy. He's easily distracted and prone to narcissistic impulses. That means we all lose. If he continues down the road and doesn't change, he's really not the guy we need leading the charge.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:36 PM (bqcn9)
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107 The toughest one to defend his Sessions. That didn't even win him any "respect" from the Establishment.
Posted by: Wally at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (Cge5i)
He owed Sessions for the campaign.
Posted by: Wally at July 16, 2021 01:34 PM (Cge5i)
He owed Sessions for the campaign.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:36 PM (z5Vrg)
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I think this is where running a family business and working with trusted friends is a detriment in politics.
There's no ability or understanding of how to manage adversaries.
There's no ability or understanding of how to manage adversaries.
Posted by: MJ at July 16, 2021 01:36 PM (zwDuR)
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100% agree, ace. We can do better (if we get the chance).
Everyone reaches a point in their lives where they stop learning. For a lot of people, it's when they can call themselves "experts" at something. For others, it comes with age. It's obvious to me that Trump lost his ability to learn in the mid 90s. He is still stuck in that paradigm.
What made Trump awesome was the simple fact that he wasn't running a con on us. That's it. There are millions in this country that fit the same description. We just have to resolve to never again vote for a professional politician. Mike Rowe or Adam Carolla could easily fill Trump's shoes, and probably still have the cognitive abilities to avoid his mistakes. Or, we get Michelle Malkin to run and go full Pinochet.
But yeah, Trump blew it and won't do any better with another chance.
Everyone reaches a point in their lives where they stop learning. For a lot of people, it's when they can call themselves "experts" at something. For others, it comes with age. It's obvious to me that Trump lost his ability to learn in the mid 90s. He is still stuck in that paradigm.
What made Trump awesome was the simple fact that he wasn't running a con on us. That's it. There are millions in this country that fit the same description. We just have to resolve to never again vote for a professional politician. Mike Rowe or Adam Carolla could easily fill Trump's shoes, and probably still have the cognitive abilities to avoid his mistakes. Or, we get Michelle Malkin to run and go full Pinochet.
But yeah, Trump blew it and won't do any better with another chance.
Posted by: Commander Tacticool at July 16, 2021 01:36 PM (VyDjz)
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If non-swampy people can't be found for govt positions, leave 'em open.
Posted by: Thrawn
That means career bureaucrats serve as Acting Heads. That's not really a great solution, either. They have somewhat less authority, but they are also harder to get rid of.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon
That's the way it is now. Career bureaucrats know the boss is changing in 4 to 8 years.
What would work better is firing EVERYONE down to janitor level ever regime change.
Posted by: Thrawn
That means career bureaucrats serve as Acting Heads. That's not really a great solution, either. They have somewhat less authority, but they are also harder to get rid of.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon
That's the way it is now. Career bureaucrats know the boss is changing in 4 to 8 years.
What would work better is firing EVERYONE down to janitor level ever regime change.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 01:37 PM (OCTRt)
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I agree that Trump's personnel decisions were largely awful. I said this in 2016, and I think it holds up in hindsight: He was very much the dog that caught the car. Their entire "team" was not prepared for what came after the election in any sense, and it showed in the personnel decisions, the Flynn debacle, all of it. This is why Trump ended up with so many family members in key positions - no staff to begin with, and then others saw what they were in for if they did accept a position. I don't personally believe it's because he "craved the respect of the left", I just don't think he was able to figure it out, and the entrenched bureaucracy made it extremely difficult.
They say this means that no outsider will ever consider a run again, and that may be true. But the other side of that coin is if another outsider, or, I would argue, even a DeSantis, wins the White House, their previous behavior creates a justification for firing nearly everyone on the spot.
They say this means that no outsider will ever consider a run again, and that may be true. But the other side of that coin is if another outsider, or, I would argue, even a DeSantis, wins the White House, their previous behavior creates a justification for firing nearly everyone on the spot.
Posted by: Milquetoast mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at July 16, 2021 01:37 PM (PPF3/)
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I am not sure about that. It might be a majority that does.
In government, though, it is a vanishingly small number. It might actually be zero.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (3p5uk)
It's not about love of country, it's about the fact that they are all over-credentialed midwits who rely on the whole system running more or less on its own. "Blow it all up" terrifies them, because they have no idea how to operate in chaos when there aren't stacks of policies and regulations to guide their decisions. So they've been desperately trying to preserve the rotting edifice of our institutions long after they should have been torn down.
In government, though, it is a vanishingly small number. It might actually be zero.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (3p5uk)
It's not about love of country, it's about the fact that they are all over-credentialed midwits who rely on the whole system running more or less on its own. "Blow it all up" terrifies them, because they have no idea how to operate in chaos when there aren't stacks of policies and regulations to guide their decisions. So they've been desperately trying to preserve the rotting edifice of our institutions long after they should have been torn down.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 16, 2021 01:37 PM (jOcSX)
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No SIGNIFICANT corruption...,
Posted by: runner at July 16, 2021 01:37 PM (Q2cEs)
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I think it's because he thirsts for this corrupt junta's "respect."
I don't think this accurately reflects Trump's motivations. He persisted in what he thought was in America's best interests even through massive displays of disapproval. If one attempt failed, he would try another angle. I think he loves America and wants to see her achieve her full potential.
I will continue to appreciate Trump for what he actually accomplished and for what he tried to accomplish. He is not the enemy.
I don't think this accurately reflects Trump's motivations. He persisted in what he thought was in America's best interests even through massive displays of disapproval. If one attempt failed, he would try another angle. I think he loves America and wants to see her achieve her full potential.
I will continue to appreciate Trump for what he actually accomplished and for what he tried to accomplish. He is not the enemy.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 01:37 PM (Hrwnm)
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Sundowner is going to be the most criminal president in the history of the USA
Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (Cxk7w)
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113 The tent keeps getting smaller and smaller. Purity spiral.
Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (qpX6U)
I would rather have the camel pissing in the tent than his nose sticking out!
Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (qpX6U)
I would rather have the camel pissing in the tent than his nose sticking out!
Posted by: uncle handsy Joe pithy comments at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (yrol0)
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And like it or not Trump's picks have to get through the Senate. The reason he picked someone whom both DE senators approved of was because if he hadn't, they would have blocked it, and McConnell would have permitted them to do so.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
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Wrong. Repubs had a majority in the Senate.. and thanks to Harry Reid, only a simple majority was needed to confirm nominations.. Murkowsky and the others notwithstanding.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
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Wrong. Repubs had a majority in the Senate.. and thanks to Harry Reid, only a simple majority was needed to confirm nominations.. Murkowsky and the others notwithstanding.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (CjFDo)
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38 -
I think it's generally fine to ask who you would appoint instead, but in cases like Bolton and Barr, the answer is ANYBODY else. It is virtually impossible to find anyone worse than giving those guys power.
I think it's generally fine to ask who you would appoint instead, but in cases like Bolton and Barr, the answer is ANYBODY else. It is virtually impossible to find anyone worse than giving those guys power.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (YV6PJ)
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What if nobody else worth a damn shows up? If we are presented with Jeb level candidates and it's apparent no one else could possibly do it would you jump on the train again?
Posted by: f'd at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (Tnijr)
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Ace; I think you are far too harsh on DJT re this AUSA. Who in the hell was he going to appoint in Delaware!! The whole state rep and dem is corrupt! It exists mostly to suck graft from the mega corps "headquartered" there. VERY few honest lawyers to be found! the graft is too sweet!
Posted by: Good Scott at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (msNHq)
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And of course, no vote fraud at all, and that old drooling imbecile was talking about other stuff when he said they had the most inclusive vote fraud operation in history.
It's like a sick and sad joke.
And of course, no vote fraud at all, and that old drooling imbecile was talking about other stuff when he said they had the most inclusive vote fraud operation in history.
It's like a sick and sad joke.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (NuVOb)
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Can't investigate a Democrat politician or his family in the middle of an election because muh optics...for a Republican there will be midnight raids and 24/7 new conferences.
All federal agencies must be disbanded. The civil service law must be repealed. The patronage system is terrible but this is worse.
All federal agencies must be disbanded. The civil service law must be repealed. The patronage system is terrible but this is worse.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (EjmvJ)
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Is this the part where we forget that things like Senate consent were literally held over Trump's head and anyone not picked by Mitch was stopped in their tracks?
Where we also forget the Senate was kept in session for 4 straight years in order to never allow recess appointments.
They wanted a lawyer in Deleware... Trump didn't know it was to cover for a crackhead, while the rest of the entire DOJ was scheming against him.
Trump's only choice was to leave seats empty. There was no other choice.
Where we also forget the Senate was kept in session for 4 straight years in order to never allow recess appointments.
They wanted a lawyer in Deleware... Trump didn't know it was to cover for a crackhead, while the rest of the entire DOJ was scheming against him.
Trump's only choice was to leave seats empty. There was no other choice.
Posted by: Inogame at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (53oGX)
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Trump appointed Miley because Mattis hated him, and Trump hated Mattis.
Trump appointed Weiss because Coons liked him, so... Trump likes Coons?
Trump appointed Weiss because Coons liked him, so... Trump likes Coons?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (gpKIi)
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129 What if nobody else worth a damn shows up? If we are presented with Jeb level candidates and it's apparent no one else could possibly do it would you jump on the train again?
Posted by: f'd at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (Tnijr)
You forgot the !
Posted by: f'd at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (Tnijr)
You forgot the !
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (yrol0)
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A lot of available lampposts out there
Posted by: A dude in MI at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Well, if Mitt Romney approves a nomination that's cause for instant dismissal.
Posted by: Northernlurkerish at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (cSyAR)
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Wait, Republicans had a majority in the Senate and all we got were tax cuts that will expire*
* Moot point since they've already been completely wiped out via inflation, job/business loss, fuel prices, etc.
* Moot point since they've already been completely wiped out via inflation, job/business loss, fuel prices, etc.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (/BX3R)
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He owed Sessions for the campaign.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:36 PM (z5Vrg)
Sessions took everyone by surprise. The problem is that Trump didn't relieve him immediately after he recused himself.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:36 PM (z5Vrg)
Sessions took everyone by surprise. The problem is that Trump didn't relieve him immediately after he recused himself.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (2DOZq)
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And note, sadly and maybe hilariously, that Trump appointed this attorney -- on the advice of Delaware's two Democrat senators.
Barnes has stated that Trump cuts costs too much on legal fees which is why he gets shysters like Cohen. Also ACB was a Federalist society trojan horse: good on some things and terrible on others, like botching the first amendment guaranteeing the right for citizens to petition the government in her confirmation hearings. Kavanaugh ensured that Merrick "I look like a pervert" Garland wouldn't replace Kennedy with strong GOPe support. He was surely the best that could've been confirmed.
Barnes has stated that Trump cuts costs too much on legal fees which is why he gets shysters like Cohen. Also ACB was a Federalist society trojan horse: good on some things and terrible on others, like botching the first amendment guaranteeing the right for citizens to petition the government in her confirmation hearings. Kavanaugh ensured that Merrick "I look like a pervert" Garland wouldn't replace Kennedy with strong GOPe support. He was surely the best that could've been confirmed.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (y7DUB)
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The DOJ is as crooked as a dog's hind leg.
Posted by: mr tmz at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (m/Gc2)
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The GOP controlled the House and purposely threw it back to the Dems.
what was it again? 40 sudden "retirements"!?!?
then wtf was Toomey doing, announcing his retirement BEFORE the Presidential election? that was another big clue (to me) that the fix was on as far as the election. that was Pat sending a message, waving a white flag on behalf of the Rs
what was it again? 40 sudden "retirements"!?!?
then wtf was Toomey doing, announcing his retirement BEFORE the Presidential election? that was another big clue (to me) that the fix was on as far as the election. that was Pat sending a message, waving a white flag on behalf of the Rs
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (j9HX3)
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Also let's not totally bury the lede, Weiss is an f'ing corrupt US attorney.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (r+sAi)
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I'm more disappointed in Trump than angry, but yeah.
I will state in his defense: I don't think anyone really believed how bad it could get. How deep the vipers were nested. And how much the swamp would resist being dredged and drained.
They hated Trump so much they'd rather send the entire country careening off a cliff rather than give him a single win.
I do fault him for not perceiving it sooner, but then, I didn't think they'd literally set the country on fire just to own Orange Man Bad.
I will state in his defense: I don't think anyone really believed how bad it could get. How deep the vipers were nested. And how much the swamp would resist being dredged and drained.
They hated Trump so much they'd rather send the entire country careening off a cliff rather than give him a single win.
I do fault him for not perceiving it sooner, but then, I didn't think they'd literally set the country on fire just to own Orange Man Bad.
Posted by: Toastrider at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (+X8qr)
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A lot of excuse making for Tripp's shortcomings doesn't help us win in the future. It papers over the fundamental issues and does zero to help us win. I'm not about to be anyone's huckleberry. You want someone who doesn't point out your shortcomings, to all of our detriment, call your mom. I want to not only win, I want to monkey stomp these people so we're not doing this again in a few years. I'm tired of battles that end in the status quo. It's time for people with courage and leadership to take the mantle.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:40 PM (bqcn9)
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I was one who was willing to give Bill Barr the benefit of the doubt...
The minute that lard-filled ambulatory anal fissure complained that Trump's tweets made it "hard" for him to "do his job," that should have told anybody with a lick of sense that Snack Barr was a bought-and-paid for Democrat tool and traitor.
The minute that lard-filled ambulatory anal fissure complained that Trump's tweets made it "hard" for him to "do his job," that should have told anybody with a lick of sense that Snack Barr was a bought-and-paid for Democrat tool and traitor.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2021 01:40 PM (2JVJo)
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>I blame Trump somewhat for his choices, but everyone lied to him. He wouldn't have the time to investigate every single person himself, and anyone he hired to do so would more than likely work against him.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (E+OcO)
This is where I'm at. The buck stops with him, but he also got terrible advice, and as was mentioned above, he was used to being a high-level CEO who relied on trusted lieutenants to carry out his will. That didn't work as POTUS.
Trump has some big blind spots, which are exacerbated by his ginormous ego. I pretty much agree with ace's rant and Codavilla's more detailed criticisms of him lately, but he is who he is. I do think he genuinely cared for the country and at least tried to deliver what he promised, for the most part. I'm not betting on Trump for the future but I also don't hate him or anything.
Or I could just put on my Troll Face, drop a "Vote harder" and run away...
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 16, 2021 01:32 PM (E+OcO)
This is where I'm at. The buck stops with him, but he also got terrible advice, and as was mentioned above, he was used to being a high-level CEO who relied on trusted lieutenants to carry out his will. That didn't work as POTUS.
Trump has some big blind spots, which are exacerbated by his ginormous ego. I pretty much agree with ace's rant and Codavilla's more detailed criticisms of him lately, but he is who he is. I do think he genuinely cared for the country and at least tried to deliver what he promised, for the most part. I'm not betting on Trump for the future but I also don't hate him or anything.
Or I could just put on my Troll Face, drop a "Vote harder" and run away...
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 01:40 PM (DXFDM)
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Hey Ace, I agree that Trump's personnel picks were his biggest mistakes, as well as his inability to truly comprehend how deep the incompetence and corruption and treachery went in the entire federal government. But in all fairness Trump had limited options available and they all sucked. Ok, so the Delaware guy was a rat-fuck. Who pray tell would have been better? The problem is that ALL of these guys are deep state rat-fucks. It's the type of people that go into these jobs and the type of people who flourish in the swamp. You're guaranteed to get deep state rat-fucks coming out the other end.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2021 01:40 PM (iFTx/)
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You know, I'm going to cut Trump slack on the US Attorney for DE. Who the hell would claim he would be important in 2017?!?
Now Barr and Sessions? That's a different story.
Now Barr and Sessions? That's a different story.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2021 01:40 PM (DpkTQ)
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Seesions gave Chuck Cooper the job of filling DOJ. Cooper lost his dream job as Solicitor General when PDT learned of his controversial writings. Sessions was a monumental failure and his bf,Cooper (who later represented John Bolton during the book fiasco), was a big part of it.
Posted by: EveR at July 16, 2021 01:40 PM (9y70b)
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Meh. Very weak analysis, and equally lame supporting chants from the crowd.
In Nixon's time, the WaPo itself (of course then quite a bit more than a sad little cartoon for idiots) talked about how the "permanent government" was a huge obstacle to doing things differently. (most here seem to think "deep state" is some kind of recent development, or brilliant insight, um, no)
By Trump's time, things had obviously deteriorated much much much further - as anyone who lived and worked in the Beltway for decades could tell you anyway.
So wishcasting that Trump - or anyone else - can magically "pick" people who will come even close to replicating what the country enjoyed for a long time, in terms of integrity or competence or professionalism, is just that.
In Nixon's time, the WaPo itself (of course then quite a bit more than a sad little cartoon for idiots) talked about how the "permanent government" was a huge obstacle to doing things differently. (most here seem to think "deep state" is some kind of recent development, or brilliant insight, um, no)
By Trump's time, things had obviously deteriorated much much much further - as anyone who lived and worked in the Beltway for decades could tell you anyway.
So wishcasting that Trump - or anyone else - can magically "pick" people who will come even close to replicating what the country enjoyed for a long time, in terms of integrity or competence or professionalism, is just that.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (OTzUX)
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True, Sessions gave Trump legitimacy, but he should have kept tabs on his actions., his position vis a vis Russian hoax. Though I don't know if that was even possible.
Posted by: runner at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (Q2cEs)
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127 And like it or not Trump's picks have to get through the Senate. The reason he picked someone whom both DE senators approved of was because if he hadn't, they would have blocked it, and McConnell would have permitted them to do so.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
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Wrong. Repubs had a majority in the Senate.. and thanks to Harry Reid, only a simple majority was needed to confirm nominations.. Murkowsky and the others notwithstanding.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (CjFDo)
Uhh, hate to break it to you but the Republican Senate was blocking Trump from making recess appointments throughout his term. They weren't exactly on board with letting him appoint as he wanted.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
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Wrong. Repubs had a majority in the Senate.. and thanks to Harry Reid, only a simple majority was needed to confirm nominations.. Murkowsky and the others notwithstanding.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (CjFDo)
Uhh, hate to break it to you but the Republican Senate was blocking Trump from making recess appointments throughout his term. They weren't exactly on board with letting him appoint as he wanted.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (z5Vrg)
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>>>I pretty much agree with ace's rant and Codavilla's more detailed criticisms of him lately,
a lot of people recommended Codavilla's recent columns to me. I should read them sometime.
a lot of people recommended Codavilla's recent columns to me. I should read them sometime.
Posted by: ace at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (0G13K)
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@63
Trump wanted to appoint Matthew Whitaker to replace Sessions as AG, GOP told Trump to get fucked, which is how we ended up with Barr.
It's very easy to say Trump should have done this or that but please keep in mind....
HE WAS UP AGAINST THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD!!!!
To the extent that...
THEY WERE WILLING TO TANK THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD ECONOMY TO GET RID OF HIM.
Trump wanted to appoint Matthew Whitaker to replace Sessions as AG, GOP told Trump to get fucked, which is how we ended up with Barr.
It's very easy to say Trump should have done this or that but please keep in mind....
HE WAS UP AGAINST THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD!!!!
To the extent that...
THEY WERE WILLING TO TANK THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD ECONOMY TO GET RID OF HIM.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (qmgN2)
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I think it's generally fine to ask who you would appoint instead, but in cases like Bolton and Barr, the answer is ANYBODY else. It is virtually impossible to find anyone worse than giving those guys power.
Posted by: BurtTC
Now, go ahead and get them confirmed. I dare you.
Posted by: BurtTC
Now, go ahead and get them confirmed. I dare you.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (OCTRt)
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151 Meh. Very weak analysis, and equally lame supporting chants from the crowd.
In Nixon's time, the WaPo itself (of course then quite a bit more than a sad little cartoon for idiots) talked about how the "permanent government" was a huge obstacle to doing things differently. (most here seem to think "deep state" is some kind of recent development, or brilliant insight, um, no)
By Trump's time, things had obviously deteriorated much much much further - as anyone who lived and worked in the Beltway for decades could tell you anyway.
So wishcasting that Trump - or anyone else - can magically "pick" people who will come even close to replicating what the country enjoyed for a long time, in terms of integrity or competence or professionalism, is just that.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (OTzUX)
Bluntly, the legislature needs to dissolve the bureaucracy. And the legislature certainly won't do that, R or D.
In Nixon's time, the WaPo itself (of course then quite a bit more than a sad little cartoon for idiots) talked about how the "permanent government" was a huge obstacle to doing things differently. (most here seem to think "deep state" is some kind of recent development, or brilliant insight, um, no)
By Trump's time, things had obviously deteriorated much much much further - as anyone who lived and worked in the Beltway for decades could tell you anyway.
So wishcasting that Trump - or anyone else - can magically "pick" people who will come even close to replicating what the country enjoyed for a long time, in terms of integrity or competence or professionalism, is just that.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (OTzUX)
Bluntly, the legislature needs to dissolve the bureaucracy. And the legislature certainly won't do that, R or D.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (z5Vrg)
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As an example, I offer Rick Perry. Perry crashed and burned in the primary when he couldn't remember 3 departments he would eliminate. So. Trump appoints him to DOEnergy. One of the 3.....
Perry, after a couple of months on the job, decides to SUPPORT the DOE "Gee, I didn't realize all the important stuff they do there". Sigh.
Case after case of this shit from his "allies".
Perry, after a couple of months on the job, decides to SUPPORT the DOE "Gee, I didn't realize all the important stuff they do there". Sigh.
Case after case of this shit from his "allies".
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (F0YaR)
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Okay, I typed a long message and the machine says it "looks like spam." How do you make something not "look like spam?"
Posted by: MW at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (fs4s+)
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Kavanaugh ensured that Merrick "I look like a pervert" Garland wouldn't replace Kennedy with strong GOPe support. He was surely the best that could've been confirmed.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (y7DUB)
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Kavanaugh was the bait used to get Kennedy to retire. Its still early days, but Kavanaugh may prove to be better than Kennedy.
ACB is also early days and also something of a disappointment, but a very big upgrade from RBG.
Next up on deck are Thomas and Breyer's replacements. Hopefully Breyer's ego holds out through 2022 and the GOP picks up the Senate.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (y7DUB)
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Kavanaugh was the bait used to get Kennedy to retire. Its still early days, but Kavanaugh may prove to be better than Kennedy.
ACB is also early days and also something of a disappointment, but a very big upgrade from RBG.
Next up on deck are Thomas and Breyer's replacements. Hopefully Breyer's ego holds out through 2022 and the GOP picks up the Senate.
Posted by: Revenant at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (s3j76)
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It's hard for me to get too exercised about PDT's picks, when people we thought would be decent, Bolton and Mattis, turned out to be weasels.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (2SdPm)
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I've said it before, but I'm done with this party. I don't care if they win the midterms. If they win the midterms, that only confirms in their mind that leftwing corporate Karen Republicanism is the future.
Posted by: Ace at 02:20 PM
That's going to put you at odds with many here, who are resigned to voting for the lesser of two weevils.
Dave in Fla gave a good set of reasons for continued voting, and I can't say he's wrong other than I'm too cynical (by the way, is it cynicism or realism) to think that the GOPe will ever be other than what it is.
So expect pushback against the notion of letting the GOP burn.
As for me, I still see the GOP as standing between the Dems and us.
As blockers.
Posted by: Ace at 02:20 PM
That's going to put you at odds with many here, who are resigned to voting for the lesser of two weevils.
Dave in Fla gave a good set of reasons for continued voting, and I can't say he's wrong other than I'm too cynical (by the way, is it cynicism or realism) to think that the GOPe will ever be other than what it is.
So expect pushback against the notion of letting the GOP burn.
As for me, I still see the GOP as standing between the Dems and us.
As blockers.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (z79tQ)
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Of course Trump was better than Hillary. But that is a pretty shitty excuse for his disaster in picking good people.
As for would the senate approve... sure they would. Because a state AG from Ohio with a. 20 year track record of good work would be hard to justify not approving for McConnell. And even if he was voted down, that is something Trump could use as a political tool. Look I am trying to drain the swamp with hood solid middle America appointments and my own party is not allowing me to do so.
As for would the senate approve... sure they would. Because a state AG from Ohio with a. 20 year track record of good work would be hard to justify not approving for McConnell. And even if he was voted down, that is something Trump could use as a political tool. Look I am trying to drain the swamp with hood solid middle America appointments and my own party is not allowing me to do so.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (SOBYU)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (NuVOb)
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All federal agencies must be disbanded. The civil service law must be repealed. The patronage system is terrible but this is worse.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (EjmvJ)
My mother said since I was little wee YD (and she was a Dem at that time), that the Pendleton Civil Service Act was the worst piece of legislation ever passed, and that it had more or less ruined the country.
I didn't really understand how true that was until about ten years ago. The permanent bureaucratic class destroyed everything it meant it to be an American.
All federal agencies must be disbanded. The civil service law must be repealed. The patronage system is terrible but this is worse.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (EjmvJ)
My mother said since I was little wee YD (and she was a Dem at that time), that the Pendleton Civil Service Act was the worst piece of legislation ever passed, and that it had more or less ruined the country.
I didn't really understand how true that was until about ten years ago. The permanent bureaucratic class destroyed everything it meant it to be an American.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 01:43 PM (7Ttpp)
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>>a lot of people recommended Codavilla's recent columns to me. I should read them sometime.
If I have learned anything in a decade, here...
Stick to the Headlines. Content is overrated.
If I have learned anything in a decade, here...
Stick to the Headlines. Content is overrated.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:43 PM (6Uwi1)
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I would cut Trump a little slack. He was never a politician, or steeped in politics (like so many of us have been for years). You could make a case that he was actually apolitical, except for the minimal involvement required to do urban real estate deals.
The plus side of this is that he was not obsessed with political power, or wanna-be dictator dreams, like so many career politicians are. The down side is that, as we've seen, he was horribly naive in many areas of politics, particularly personnel, and hired too damn many "Wesley Mouches."
That said, who else would he have hired? A Democratic president, firmly in the camp of the All-Powerful State, enters office with most of the existing infrastructure in firm agreement with him. Hell, he probably doesn't have to change anything at all.
A true conservative Republican comes into office, and everybody in Washington is on the other side. I could hire every true conservative career politician in D.C. and probably fit them all on one bus. A short one.
Cleaning house in Washington would require Hercules to reroute the Potomac through the city. Reagan couldn't do it. Not too surprised Trump couldn't. DeSantis won't either.
The plus side of this is that he was not obsessed with political power, or wanna-be dictator dreams, like so many career politicians are. The down side is that, as we've seen, he was horribly naive in many areas of politics, particularly personnel, and hired too damn many "Wesley Mouches."
That said, who else would he have hired? A Democratic president, firmly in the camp of the All-Powerful State, enters office with most of the existing infrastructure in firm agreement with him. Hell, he probably doesn't have to change anything at all.
A true conservative Republican comes into office, and everybody in Washington is on the other side. I could hire every true conservative career politician in D.C. and probably fit them all on one bus. A short one.
Cleaning house in Washington would require Hercules to reroute the Potomac through the city. Reagan couldn't do it. Not too surprised Trump couldn't. DeSantis won't either.
Posted by: MW at July 16, 2021 01:43 PM (fs4s+)
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..is that ALL of these guys are deep state rat-fucks. It's the type of people that go into these jobs and the type of people who flourish in the swamp. You're guaranteed to get deep state rat-fucks coming out the other end.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2021 01:40 PM (iFTx/)
Everyone in DC is just dying to get in a situation like this where someone in power owes them a big favor. No Joe owes this guy, wonder where he'll end up next. Big promotion? Nice gig in the private sector? Who knows, but he's got a payday coming.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2021 01:40 PM (iFTx/)
Everyone in DC is just dying to get in a situation like this where someone in power owes them a big favor. No Joe owes this guy, wonder where he'll end up next. Big promotion? Nice gig in the private sector? Who knows, but he's got a payday coming.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 01:43 PM (Y5qcH)
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Did we all see this yet:
https://tinyurl.com/5ennp6k5
It's google's new policy about what you can distribute and store on their servers.
I can't quote the good stuff because this comment box is sensitive.
>We need to curb abuses that threaten our ability to provide these services, and we ask that everyone abide by the policies below to help us achieve this goal. After we are notified of a potential policy violation, we may review the content and take action, including restricting access to the content, removing the content, and limiting or terminating a user's access to Google products.
Then they lay out what they don't allow which is basically anything against the left's narrative on the election and public health
https://tinyurl.com/5ennp6k5
It's google's new policy about what you can distribute and store on their servers.
I can't quote the good stuff because this comment box is sensitive.
>We need to curb abuses that threaten our ability to provide these services, and we ask that everyone abide by the policies below to help us achieve this goal. After we are notified of a potential policy violation, we may review the content and take action, including restricting access to the content, removing the content, and limiting or terminating a user's access to Google products.
Then they lay out what they don't allow which is basically anything against the left's narrative on the election and public health
Posted by: havelhavolim at July 16, 2021 01:43 PM (fLpTX)
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Btw, I assume this Politico hit piece is designed to 25th Biden out, and Heel-Ups in.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 16, 2021 01:43 PM (F0YaR)
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Ah. No HTML attempts, please.
Posted by: MW at July 16, 2021 01:43 PM (fs4s+)
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How do you make something not "look like spam?"
Posted by: MW at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (fs4s+)
Have moar happy short thots!
Posted by: MW at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (fs4s+)
Have moar happy short thots!
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 16, 2021 01:43 PM (yrol0)
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Also note: They authenticated that it was Hunter Biden's signature on the receipt from the repair shop.
"Russian Disinformation" amIright?
Note how Trump couldn't get one single federal judge he appointed anywhere to order them to keep counting when they "paused."
Couldn't get a single federal judge he appointed to listen to even one of his cases.
Couldn't find a single real election lawyer in the whole United States, either before--or after--the election. (To say nothing of his horrible, pathetic strategy--0 before; slapdash, ad-libbed after).
And, most damning to me, can't find any way to fund the legal defense of the 1/6 political prisoners--after he tweeted "be there" (and then gave us a crummy oveltine commercial).
"Russian Disinformation" amIright?
Note how Trump couldn't get one single federal judge he appointed anywhere to order them to keep counting when they "paused."
Couldn't get a single federal judge he appointed to listen to even one of his cases.
Couldn't find a single real election lawyer in the whole United States, either before--or after--the election. (To say nothing of his horrible, pathetic strategy--0 before; slapdash, ad-libbed after).
And, most damning to me, can't find any way to fund the legal defense of the 1/6 political prisoners--after he tweeted "be there" (and then gave us a crummy oveltine commercial).
Posted by: Mrm88 at July 16, 2021 01:43 PM (jIL4c)
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125 Sundowner is going to be the most criminal president in the history of the USA
Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (Cxk7w)
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"...going to be"?? He's already there.
Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2021 01:38 PM (Cxk7w)
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"...going to be"?? He's already there.
Posted by: radar at July 16, 2021 01:43 PM (3Zp/H)
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I still think Teh Donald delegated a lot of the decision making on appointments and hires to underlings who then turned around and fucked him with deep state hacks. He also tended to gravitate towards flashy and flamboyant, which gets you nowhere in political circles. Who actually did the background leg work on his appointments and hires? Those people did more to wreck his tenure in the White House than Trump did... although his ego bears a lot of responsibility too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (6Uwi1)
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>>>109 Could Trump have know that Weiss was a shitweasel at the time of the appointment?
He might have wondered why two shitweasel ultrapartisan leftwing Senators were so keen on him.
He might have wondered why two shitweasel ultrapartisan leftwing Senators were so keen on him.
Posted by: ace at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (0G13K)
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Remember:
From Day One, Trump had 2.5 years of Russia Investigation
Followed by 6 months of Impeachment For a Phone Call
Followed by 1 year of Chinese Virus.
That's 4 years if you're counting. And in between every day was leaks, lies and hoaxes of every shape and size, and continuous treachery from his own party. Yes being president is hard but it was a ludicrous position every single day. Yet he didn't back down, he stood by his voters, America continued with record setting growth, and then he won reelection easily. They had to resort to the most obvious cheat to take it away.
From Day One, Trump had 2.5 years of Russia Investigation
Followed by 6 months of Impeachment For a Phone Call
Followed by 1 year of Chinese Virus.
That's 4 years if you're counting. And in between every day was leaks, lies and hoaxes of every shape and size, and continuous treachery from his own party. Yes being president is hard but it was a ludicrous position every single day. Yet he didn't back down, he stood by his voters, America continued with record setting growth, and then he won reelection easily. They had to resort to the most obvious cheat to take it away.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (c3Hg2)
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photo proves Trump grabbed a pussy! (SFW)
https://twitter.com/
atensnut/status/
1416058991768227842
https://twitter.com/
atensnut/status/
1416058991768227842
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (AL4IR)
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And Trump stood behind people like that ponce, Kavanaugh. Where was that temerit with other picks? Oh that's right, they weren't shiny enough objects for him with a lot of media coverage. Nobody is saying you have to fight every single battle. But you fight the important ones. And it's his fault he had to fend off Democrats on Russia. He picked that swamp fiend weak sauce Sessions. Good Lord, everyone in DC knew what he was all about.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (bqcn9)
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176 >>How do you make something not "look like spam?"
Shape it like ribs and cover it in bbq sauce.
Shape it like ribs and cover it in bbq sauce.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (Y5qcH)
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this the part where we forget that things like Senate consent were literally held over Trump's head and anyone not picked by Mitch was stopped in their tracks?
Where we also forget the Senate was kept in session for 4 straight years in order to never allow recess appointments.
They wanted a lawyer in Deleware... Trump didn't know it was to cover for a crackhead, while the rest of the entire DOJ was scheming against him.
Trump's only choice was to leave seats empty. There was no other choice.
Posted by: Inogame at July 16, 2021 01:3
Yep. We all see it clearly in Hindsight but forget the
Millions of obstacles thrown in Trumps way at every turn.
In this one, was there a reason then that he or his staff should have suspected Weiss was a turncoat and also, was there a reason (rule, tradition or otherwise) Trump or his staff sought approval or recommendations from the states senators?
Where we also forget the Senate was kept in session for 4 straight years in order to never allow recess appointments.
They wanted a lawyer in Deleware... Trump didn't know it was to cover for a crackhead, while the rest of the entire DOJ was scheming against him.
Trump's only choice was to leave seats empty. There was no other choice.
Posted by: Inogame at July 16, 2021 01:3
Yep. We all see it clearly in Hindsight but forget the
Millions of obstacles thrown in Trumps way at every turn.
In this one, was there a reason then that he or his staff should have suspected Weiss was a turncoat and also, was there a reason (rule, tradition or otherwise) Trump or his staff sought approval or recommendations from the states senators?
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Wooden ships upon the water...
Posted by: Jefferson Starplane at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (LilNs)
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quick, lets go rob Hunter of his fuckin get outa jail card
quick, lets go rob Hunter of his fuckin get outa jail card
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (bTQ72)
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156 - So you select Bolton because you can get him confirmed? That's like going into a bar, hoping to pick up a hot chick, and going home with a dude in assless chaps, who has AIDS, because you can get him to sleep with you.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (YV6PJ)
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Shape it like ribs and cover it in bbq sauce.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (Y5qcH)
McRib and Egg Biscuit for the win!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (Y5qcH)
McRib and Egg Biscuit for the win!
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (yrol0)
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And it's his fault he had to fend off Democrats on Russia. He picked that swamp fiend weak sauce Sessions. Good Lord, everyone in DC knew what he was all about.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (bqcn9)
Lol. Right
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (bqcn9)
Lol. Right
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (Ed8Zd)
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There is only one way to do it, cut off the funding. You need someone in position to say I will not sign a budget without the elimination of all sorts of things. DC lives on greed.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (r+sAi)
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Dworkin, well said.
I'd replace Trump in whatever is the fraction of a nano-second (pico-?) with someone who would do better, in any number of respects.
But I look at the list, and alas it is empty. And actually is was largely some of Trump's unseemly/unconventional characteristics (to my rehabilitated but still pointy-headed policy geek lifelong directly involved perspective) that helped him have *some* (actually a lot) of impact.
Will, political integrity, and basic policy instincts are far more important than anything, and that's not more evident only because of the amazingly empty/tiny nature of 99% of the current political class (GOP definitely included).
I'd replace Trump in whatever is the fraction of a nano-second (pico-?) with someone who would do better, in any number of respects.
But I look at the list, and alas it is empty. And actually is was largely some of Trump's unseemly/unconventional characteristics (to my rehabilitated but still pointy-headed policy geek lifelong directly involved perspective) that helped him have *some* (actually a lot) of impact.
Will, political integrity, and basic policy instincts are far more important than anything, and that's not more evident only because of the amazingly empty/tiny nature of 99% of the current political class (GOP definitely included).
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (OTzUX)
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If you aren't required to come to work when it snows, you are now part time without benefits.
The COVID theater changed the workplace. A whole lotta gummint cheesers are 'working from home' these days. I'm in favor of wholesale decimation of departments by breaking them up into smaller entities and eliminating the no value added ones.
For example, Energy. Just look at the org chart, start with the admin BS and work your way down.
The COVID theater changed the workplace. A whole lotta gummint cheesers are 'working from home' these days. I'm in favor of wholesale decimation of departments by breaking them up into smaller entities and eliminating the no value added ones.
For example, Energy. Just look at the org chart, start with the admin BS and work your way down.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (TAyES)
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Democrats run the US.
No matter who is president, no matter who is in the majority, Democrats run the country and our court system.
As for Hunter, Democrats and Republicans just don't care.
No matter who is president, no matter who is in the majority, Democrats run the country and our court system.
As for Hunter, Democrats and Republicans just don't care.
Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (3fR4G)
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Shape it like ribs and cover it in bbq sauce.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (Y5qcH)
No pigs were harmed in the making of this sammich!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (Y5qcH)
No pigs were harmed in the making of this sammich!
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (yrol0)
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180 And Trump stood behind people like that ponce, Kavanaugh. Where was that temerit with other picks? Oh that's right, they weren't shiny enough objects for him with a lot of media coverage. Nobody is saying you have to fight every single battle. But you fight the important ones. And it's his fault he had to fend off Democrats on Russia. He picked that swamp fiend weak sauce Sessions. Good Lord, everyone in DC knew what he was all about.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (bqcn9)
Sessions had a good reputation on the right for a long time. And again, he was literally a key member of the Trump campaign. Not surprising to see him appointed.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (bqcn9)
Sessions had a good reputation on the right for a long time. And again, he was literally a key member of the Trump campaign. Not surprising to see him appointed.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (z5Vrg)
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yeah, Trump had bad advice, but he often picked people that had been openly against his objectives, especially his campaign promises. The border was often controlled by open borders types ... I forget names now ... Coulter was big on Kris Kobach, Trump shunned him for ? someone that was not as strong.
Coulter often claimed that Trump wanted to be liked by the NY crowd ... the important elites, not just rank and file. idk, but his picks often indicated it was that, as much as trying to "make deals" by appointing "moderates".
Coulter also claimed Trump had authority to fund the wall from Day One ... yet he played footsie with GOPe. ..
Trump endorsing and campaigning for DeSantis is my preferred action for now ... Trump say he made up his mind on running, but did not say what that decision was. It might be his for the taking, if he runs ...
Coulter often claimed that Trump wanted to be liked by the NY crowd ... the important elites, not just rank and file. idk, but his picks often indicated it was that, as much as trying to "make deals" by appointing "moderates".
Coulter also claimed Trump had authority to fund the wall from Day One ... yet he played footsie with GOPe. ..
Trump endorsing and campaigning for DeSantis is my preferred action for now ... Trump say he made up his mind on running, but did not say what that decision was. It might be his for the taking, if he runs ...
Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (Cus5s)
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Biden is on tape bragging about forcing the Ukraine to drop an investigation on his son's sugar daddy where Joe gets a cut. What more does anyone need?
Posted by: Just a side note at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (2DOZq)
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"Remember:
From Day One, Trump had 2.5 years of Russia Investigation
Followed by 6 months of Impeachment For a Phone Call
Followed by 1 year of Chinese Virus. "
In every war there are diversions. Most of them purposeful. Trump took his eye off the field. In many cases he didn't need to. He helped make himself the story. Not entirely his fault, but just a little introspection would be nice
From Day One, Trump had 2.5 years of Russia Investigation
Followed by 6 months of Impeachment For a Phone Call
Followed by 1 year of Chinese Virus. "
In every war there are diversions. Most of them purposeful. Trump took his eye off the field. In many cases he didn't need to. He helped make himself the story. Not entirely his fault, but just a little introspection would be nice
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (bqcn9)
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185 156 - So you select Bolton because you can get him confirmed? That's like going into a bar, hoping to pick up a hot chick, and going home with a dude in assless chaps, who has AIDS, because you can get him to sleep with you.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (YV6PJ)
2 outta 3 aint bad
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (YV6PJ)
2 outta 3 aint bad
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (yrol0)
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"I can only support someone for president who understands the full evil of the enemy."
"And is willing to do what it takes to shut them down."
This x1000
"And is willing to do what it takes to shut them down."
This x1000
Posted by: Bosk at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (FgPjD)
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A parallel is Loretta Lynch's decision to suppress the indictment of Democrat Charlotte Mayor Patrick Cannon until *after* the election. Note that the decision had been *made* to issue the indictment, but Lynch wanted it delayed until afterward, for an obvious reason.
You see, in Charlotte, if a Mayor does not complete his term (which Cannon certainly didn't, he was in jail) the replacement is selected by the Democrat City Council, rather than a new election...which is what happened.
You see, in Charlotte, if a Mayor does not complete his term (which Cannon certainly didn't, he was in jail) the replacement is selected by the Democrat City Council, rather than a new election...which is what happened.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,. etc. at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (vOGqy)
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Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (OTzUX)
What do you have against overtime?
What do you have against overtime?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)
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94 degrees and haven't seen raining a week now so better water the garden.
Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (Cxk7w)
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How do you make something not "look like spam?"
Posted by: MW at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (fs4s+)
Fewer paragraphs. Seriously. There's a character limit and also a carriage return limit. If you hit the character limit you just won't be able to type anymore in the comment box. But if you make too many paragraph breaks you will be able to type whatever you want, but if you're over the limit on the breaks your comment won't post and you'll get the spam warning.
Posted by: MW at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (fs4s+)
Fewer paragraphs. Seriously. There's a character limit and also a carriage return limit. If you hit the character limit you just won't be able to type anymore in the comment box. But if you make too many paragraph breaks you will be able to type whatever you want, but if you're over the limit on the breaks your comment won't post and you'll get the spam warning.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (vMCab)
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Hey Ace, should Trump or DeSantis become Pres in 2024, what position in the Executive branch (or the White House, such as an advisor) are you going to offer yourself to fill?
Because if you're not, then stop ranting like a/an [favorite Ace adjective insult] [favorite Ace adjective noun insult] about Trump's personnel decisions.
Because if you're not, then stop ranting like a/an [favorite Ace adjective insult] [favorite Ace adjective noun insult] about Trump's personnel decisions.
Posted by: SFGoth at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (KAi1n)
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>Posted by: ace at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (0G13K)
Here's the article in question, ace:
https://amgreatness.com/2021/07/06/
what-is-trump-to-us/
Here's the article in question, ace:
https://amgreatness.com/2021/07/06/
what-is-trump-to-us/
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (DXFDM)
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If you want to know what happened to PDT, look no further than the mid terms.
The GOP controlled the House and purposely threw it back to the Dems.
The GOP was never interested in working with PDT, and, by extension, with Americans.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (2SdPm)
Ryan backdoored us all and PDT..The 2 fucks who hurt PDT the most were sessions and ryan for different reasons
The GOP controlled the House and purposely threw it back to the Dems.
The GOP was never interested in working with PDT, and, by extension, with Americans.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (2SdPm)
Ryan backdoored us all and PDT..The 2 fucks who hurt PDT the most were sessions and ryan for different reasons
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (GPwVZ)
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (c3Hg2)
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Kavanaugh was the bait used to get Kennedy to retire. Its still early days, but Kavanaugh may prove to be better than Kennedy.
ACB is also early days and also something of a disappointment, but a very big upgrade from RBG.
Agreed on both. Still not the doctrinaire conservative firebrands we'd prefer (and that the donks would do with progs given the same opportunities) but an upgrade.
ACB is also early days and also something of a disappointment, but a very big upgrade from RBG.
Agreed on both. Still not the doctrinaire conservative firebrands we'd prefer (and that the donks would do with progs given the same opportunities) but an upgrade.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (y7DUB)
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I'm with you, Ace. Enough of the Republicans who roll over for belly rubs from the left.
When you posted about the South seceding, my first thought was, "Who would we put in charge of running the new country?" No one I can think of.
When you posted about the South seceding, my first thought was, "Who would we put in charge of running the new country?" No one I can think of.
Posted by: abbynormal at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (Dse6M)
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Sessions had a good reputation on the right for a long time. And again, he was literally a key member of the Trump campaign. Not surprising to see him appointed.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (z5Vrg)
Didn't seem like Sessions was really an insider. He never seemed to know what was happening. Maybe he's just dumb, or he's just not part of the club.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (z5Vrg)
Didn't seem like Sessions was really an insider. He never seemed to know what was happening. Maybe he's just dumb, or he's just not part of the club.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (Y5qcH)
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185 156 - So you select Bolton because you can get him confirmed? That's like going into a bar, hoping to pick up a hot chick, and going home with a dude in assless chaps, who has AIDS, because you can get him to sleep with you.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (YV6PJ)
The alternative is to have the overwhelmingly left-wing (in the state department overwhelmingly communist) bureaucracy run itself with no oversight from the President.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (YV6PJ)
The alternative is to have the overwhelmingly left-wing (in the state department overwhelmingly communist) bureaucracy run itself with no oversight from the President.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (z5Vrg)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 16, 2021 01:48 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: Hunter Bidet at July 16, 2021 01:48 PM (jWL1M)
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"going home with a dude in assless chaps, who has AIDS, because you can get him to sleep with you."
You see an assless chap dude in a bar, and you automatically assume that he's promiscuous? Tsk tsk.
You see an assless chap dude in a bar, and you automatically assume that he's promiscuous? Tsk tsk.
Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at July 16, 2021 01:48 PM (qpX6U)
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Imagine America if the Republicans and Democrats had worked with Trump.
It's easy to see why he had to be removed from office.
It's easy to see why he had to be removed from office.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 01:48 PM (/BX3R)
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Link to Codavilla's article referenced above?
Posted by: runner at July 16, 2021 01:48 PM (Q2cEs)
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Reading this post makes me root for the bond market to make its massive correction soon.
I hate even thinking about the pain that this will inflict on the people of this country - and my M.O. for politics has always been to avoid harming the country - but right now, this is the only realistic way in which the rot inside of the beltway will be cleared out short of a hot civil war, which I don't want to see happen, either, but am afraid will happen in any event.
I hate even thinking about the pain that this will inflict on the people of this country - and my M.O. for politics has always been to avoid harming the country - but right now, this is the only realistic way in which the rot inside of the beltway will be cleared out short of a hot civil war, which I don't want to see happen, either, but am afraid will happen in any event.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at July 16, 2021 01:48 PM (xxG/v)
Posted by: Cake Girl at July 16, 2021 01:48 PM (6Uwi1)
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"Sessions had a good reputation on the right for a long time. And again, he was literally a key member of the Trump campaign. Not surprising to see him appointed.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (z5Vrg)"
Sessions immediately surrendered on recusal. I can tell you that shocked almost nobody in DC. He had a history that if pressured by the right swampers, he would fold. He predictably did.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (z5Vrg)"
Sessions immediately surrendered on recusal. I can tell you that shocked almost nobody in DC. He had a history that if pressured by the right swampers, he would fold. He predictably did.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (bqcn9)
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It didn't matter who Trump hired or fired. The swamp and the media were determined to stop him by all means necessary.
They still are.
No one was expected to even pretend to do their job while he was in office. In fact if you even tried you were harassed unmercifully.
Every single Republican is the embodiment of Hitler in their eyes. Trump even more so.
Which makes him extremely valuable as a laser pointer target to draw heat off DeSantis or whoever else.
Let Trump be Trump and continue to drive the left mad. And let someone else actually take office and govern.
They still are.
No one was expected to even pretend to do their job while he was in office. In fact if you even tried you were harassed unmercifully.
Every single Republican is the embodiment of Hitler in their eyes. Trump even more so.
Which makes him extremely valuable as a laser pointer target to draw heat off DeSantis or whoever else.
Let Trump be Trump and continue to drive the left mad. And let someone else actually take office and govern.
Posted by: Just Lily. Thread-Winner Elect at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (p4mFt)
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How about we lay the blame where it belongs? Those wretched commies who want to destroy our country. We shouldn't be surprised when they succeed with their lies because they are constantly pushing and their tentacles are everywhere.
I must admit part of the blame rests upon people like me who have been far too tolerant. To be fair, when a teacher attempts to indoctrinate, for instance, I don't really know what to do about it. I want to extend the freedom of speech to others that I want for myself. So you just hope the kids can tell when they're being lied to and recognize truth when you tell it.
I must admit part of the blame rests upon people like me who have been far too tolerant. To be fair, when a teacher attempts to indoctrinate, for instance, I don't really know what to do about it. I want to extend the freedom of speech to others that I want for myself. So you just hope the kids can tell when they're being lied to and recognize truth when you tell it.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (Hrwnm)
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So wishcasting that Trump - or anyone else - can magically "pick" people who will come even close to replicating what the country enjoyed for a long time, in terms of integrity or competence or professionalism, is just that.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (OTzUX)
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Exactly. I can't blame Trump for this. There is nobody who could have done better. The Presidency is a joke. It has no power.
The government proved with him that on the exceedingly slim chance someone achieves the Presidency without being co-opted ahead of time, they will simply be attacked, restrained, prosecuted, and most importantly - ignored.
And then Biden proved that the government can put a fucking eggplant in the Oval Office, and it makes zero difference to the procession of events. The Presidency does not matter anymore. Nor do any elected positions at the federal level. It's just window-dressing for a bureaucratic cabal. Opium for the masses.
So wishcasting that Trump - or anyone else - can magically "pick" people who will come even close to replicating what the country enjoyed for a long time, in terms of integrity or competence or professionalism, is just that.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (OTzUX)
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Exactly. I can't blame Trump for this. There is nobody who could have done better. The Presidency is a joke. It has no power.
The government proved with him that on the exceedingly slim chance someone achieves the Presidency without being co-opted ahead of time, they will simply be attacked, restrained, prosecuted, and most importantly - ignored.
And then Biden proved that the government can put a fucking eggplant in the Oval Office, and it makes zero difference to the procession of events. The Presidency does not matter anymore. Nor do any elected positions at the federal level. It's just window-dressing for a bureaucratic cabal. Opium for the masses.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (7Ttpp)
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>Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:44 PM (c3Hg2)
Yeah, when you frame it like that, it's quite breathtaking.
Yeah, when you frame it like that, it's quite breathtaking.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (DXFDM)
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Lots of new nics here today ,who all clearly knew all along that kavanaugh, Comey Barrett, Barr etc were shills for the Dems.
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Ryan backdoored us all and PDT..The 2 fucks who hurt PDT the most were sessions and ryan for different reasons
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (GPwVZ)
Ryan is the biggest traitor I've lived through. A public hanging is what he deserves.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (GPwVZ)
Ryan is the biggest traitor I've lived through. A public hanging is what he deserves.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (y7DUB)
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Coulter often claimed that Trump wanted to be liked by the NY crowd ... the important elites, not just rank and file. idk, but his picks often indicated it was that, as much as trying to "make deals" by appointing "moderates"
I'd call that projection on Coulter's part. She wishes to be liked by the NY crowd and likely spits on the people that buy her books. Always the vibe she gave me.
Coulter often claimed that Trump wanted to be liked by the NY crowd ... the important elites, not just rank and file. idk, but his picks often indicated it was that, as much as trying to "make deals" by appointing "moderates"
I'd call that projection on Coulter's part. She wishes to be liked by the NY crowd and likely spits on the people that buy her books. Always the vibe she gave me.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (vMCab)
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Shape it like ribs and cover it in bbq sauce.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
*No pigs were harmed in the making of this sammich!
Posted by: rhennigantx
McDonald's disclaimer.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
*No pigs were harmed in the making of this sammich!
Posted by: rhennigantx
McDonald's disclaimer.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (OCTRt)
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How do you make something not "look like spam?"
Shape it like ribs and cover it in bbq sauce.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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3D meat-printer.
Shape it like ribs and cover it in bbq sauce.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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3D meat-printer.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,. etc. at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (vOGqy)
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Ryan backdoored us all and PDT..The 2 fucks who hurt PDT the most were sessions and ryan for different reasons
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (GPwVZ)
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I generally do not hate anyone. Hillary, Bill, Biden, Obama, they are what they are, so, meh.
But Ryan? I despise that man with the heat of a thousand super novas.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (GPwVZ)
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I generally do not hate anyone. Hillary, Bill, Biden, Obama, they are what they are, so, meh.
But Ryan? I despise that man with the heat of a thousand super novas.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (2SdPm)
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Horde confession day. You can sense the relief that morons can finally say what they really think about DJT.
Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (qpX6U)
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Ann Coulter says a lot of stuff, none of worth listening to. Typical GOPe grifter.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (TAyES)
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I know Trump remains personally popular with many of you, but for me, this is it: This is the breaking point. He's fucked up too many times, trusted the left too many times. Trusted GOPe saboteurs too many times.
The trouble with Trump is that although Trump loves America his motivation from running is more about his ego than trying to save America from this slow motion Communist takeover. Trump too many times let his personal grudges consume him.
We need somebody as President with a plan & those around him he can bring in that can execute it. Trump wasn't it the last time & to expect anything different in 2024 is lunacy. DeSantis may be it if he can win reelection in Florida next year.
I would rather try something new than repeating 2016 & expecting different results. Time is getting very short to save America, if it can be saved at this point.
The trouble with Trump is that although Trump loves America his motivation from running is more about his ego than trying to save America from this slow motion Communist takeover. Trump too many times let his personal grudges consume him.
We need somebody as President with a plan & those around him he can bring in that can execute it. Trump wasn't it the last time & to expect anything different in 2024 is lunacy. DeSantis may be it if he can win reelection in Florida next year.
I would rather try something new than repeating 2016 & expecting different results. Time is getting very short to save America, if it can be saved at this point.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (FBrfY)
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60% of the population can't get enough of crooked, diverse donks. Some of you know who you are, even here. Look at Illinois.
Posted by: klaftern at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (r4sI4)
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I made one single exception for Trump, and his Presidency was an object lesson in why I shouldn't have.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
So, do you favor Hillary/Jimmy or Jimmy/Hillary in 2024?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
So, do you favor Hillary/Jimmy or Jimmy/Hillary in 2024?
Posted by: SFGoth at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (KAi1n)
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Trump is a buffoon.
Posted by: Cringe Biscuit at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (Eus9b)
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"A public hanging is what he deserves."
BUT HE IS A HUNTER YOU GUYS AND GROWS A BEARD AND CARES!!!
"A public hanging is what he deserves."
BUT HE IS A HUNTER YOU GUYS AND GROWS A BEARD AND CARES!!!
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (NuVOb)
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I pray to God/whomever that Trump does not run again. I don't trust his staffing choices and unwillingness to confront the deep state except through mean tweets. Give us DeathSantis, since he seems to understand better what an R President will face...and willing to do something about it.
Posted by: ID gent at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (8W8TF)
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Sessions took everyone by surprise. The problem is that Trump didn't relieve him immediately after he recused himself.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (2DOZq)
It's shit like that I can get mad at Trump about. But not his choice between choosing from a corrupted gene pool or doing nothing at all.
Of course, we can all go back to believing the kayfabe we've been fed for the past half century. They'd be happy to go back to pretending they care, and lying to us all the time. Playing the white hats and black hats has got to be fun.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 16, 2021 01:39 PM (2DOZq)
It's shit like that I can get mad at Trump about. But not his choice between choosing from a corrupted gene pool or doing nothing at all.
Of course, we can all go back to believing the kayfabe we've been fed for the past half century. They'd be happy to go back to pretending they care, and lying to us all the time. Playing the white hats and black hats has got to be fun.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (wAnMi)
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NSA is not a confirmed position.
LASue, yes, forever, things like USATs have been generated (more/less) through a state's Senate delegation. There are twists and turns, but one thing to keep in mind is the lowering tide lowering all boats (= integrity and professionalism in decline, reaching a qualitatively new state, recently).
Very personally familiar with the case of one of the USATs replaced by Bush - to, of course, the absurd utterly artificial and baseless hurricane of "controversy!" "scandal!" indulged by the useless GOP and the passive Bush team. The USAT being replaced was actually relieved - it was a not good fit for this person. A deputy (my friend's spouse) took over, and actually stayed quite a while - because even the Obama DOJ looked to the CA Senate delegation first for reaction, and they (for reasons unknown) were "whatever, replacement is fine" - even though the replacement's political pedigree was GOP.
LASue, yes, forever, things like USATs have been generated (more/less) through a state's Senate delegation. There are twists and turns, but one thing to keep in mind is the lowering tide lowering all boats (= integrity and professionalism in decline, reaching a qualitatively new state, recently).
Very personally familiar with the case of one of the USATs replaced by Bush - to, of course, the absurd utterly artificial and baseless hurricane of "controversy!" "scandal!" indulged by the useless GOP and the passive Bush team. The USAT being replaced was actually relieved - it was a not good fit for this person. A deputy (my friend's spouse) took over, and actually stayed quite a while - because even the Obama DOJ looked to the CA Senate delegation first for reaction, and they (for reasons unknown) were "whatever, replacement is fine" - even though the replacement's political pedigree was GOP.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (OTzUX)
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Cant have it both ways. Cant say Trump was a Superman president better than Reagan, etc and then say oh poor Trump cant blame his pick his hands were tied, nothing he could do.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (SOBYU)
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Trump is the head of the party who put in McConnell and McCarthy as legislative leaders. Is this OK with him? Can he MAGA govern with these two, or will it be 2016-2018 all over again? Mitch never recessed the Senate so Trump could make a recess appointment. Is this OK with Trump?
Posted by: Valiant at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (3MiF8)
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I'm Team DeathSantis '24.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (ptqGC)
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203 Hey Ace, should Trump or DeSantis become Pres in 2024, what position in the Executive branch (or the White House, such as an advisor) are you going to offer yourself to fill?
I don't know about ace, but I would gladly serve either man in office (not in the Kamala sense!) if they were to ask (something media something I could do)
I would "take the heat" I guess too. what are you gonna do. we've all got our back against the wall now anyway.
I don't know about ace, but I would gladly serve either man in office (not in the Kamala sense!) if they were to ask (something media something I could do)
I would "take the heat" I guess too. what are you gonna do. we've all got our back against the wall now anyway.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (j9HX3)
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Two California men are charged with Molotov cocktail plot to blow up Sacramento Democratic HQ AND the California governor's mansion in a bid to 'go to war' and overturn Trump's 2020 loss
the other 3 guys were in the FBI and will not be charged tho
the other 3 guys were in the FBI and will not be charged tho
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (bTQ72)
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So wishcasting that Trump - or anyone else - can magically "pick" people who will come even close to replicating what the country enjoyed for a long time, in terms of integrity or competence or professionalism, is just that.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (OTzUX)
This is 100% correct.
I will add even though rhomboid may not agree, that in terms of our interests, pure raw talent, drive, determination and effectiveness, you're NEVER gonna get a better option than Trump in this lifetime. Anyone who thinks so is in fairyland.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:41 PM (OTzUX)
This is 100% correct.
I will add even though rhomboid may not agree, that in terms of our interests, pure raw talent, drive, determination and effectiveness, you're NEVER gonna get a better option than Trump in this lifetime. Anyone who thinks so is in fairyland.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (c3Hg2)
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>>>Mitch never recessed the Senate so Trump could make a recess appointment.
Infuriating. That jowly cunt needs to be out.
Infuriating. That jowly cunt needs to be out.
Posted by: ace at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (0G13K)
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"Lol. Right
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (Ed8Zd)"
Lol. What your argument against that? Sessions doesn't recuse himself, he takes total control. It stays in his orbit and most of the other political hi jinx dies. Sessions was a horrible pick. It shows the impulsive nature of Trump with some of these
Picks.
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 01:45 PM (Ed8Zd)"
Lol. What your argument against that? Sessions doesn't recuse himself, he takes total control. It stays in his orbit and most of the other political hi jinx dies. Sessions was a horrible pick. It shows the impulsive nature of Trump with some of these
Picks.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:52 PM (bqcn9)
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Coulter often claimed that Trump wanted to be liked by the NY crowd ... the important elites, not just rank and file. idk, but his picks often indicated it was that, as much as trying to "make deals" by appointing "moderates"
I'd call that projection on Coulter's part. She wishes to be liked by the NY crowd and likely spits on the people that buy her books. Always the vibe she gave me.
Posted by:
Coulter often claimed that Trump wanted to be liked by the NY crowd ... the important elites, not just rank and file. idk, but his picks often indicated it was that, as much as trying to "make deals" by appointing "moderates"
I'd call that projection on Coulter's part. She wishes to be liked by the NY crowd and likely spits on the people that buy her books. Always the vibe she gave me.
Posted by: buzzion
Yeah. Hell, Trump WAS the elite crowd. Look at all the media pictures BEFORE he ran for office. Everyone wanted a photo with him.
From Rosa Parks to Ali to Steven Tyler.
I'd call that projection on Coulter's part. She wishes to be liked by the NY crowd and likely spits on the people that buy her books. Always the vibe she gave me.
Posted by:
Coulter often claimed that Trump wanted to be liked by the NY crowd ... the important elites, not just rank and file. idk, but his picks often indicated it was that, as much as trying to "make deals" by appointing "moderates"
I'd call that projection on Coulter's part. She wishes to be liked by the NY crowd and likely spits on the people that buy her books. Always the vibe she gave me.
Posted by: buzzion
Yeah. Hell, Trump WAS the elite crowd. Look at all the media pictures BEFORE he ran for office. Everyone wanted a photo with him.
From Rosa Parks to Ali to Steven Tyler.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 01:52 PM (OCTRt)
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Trump is a buffoon.
yeah, right. A self-made billionaire doing it the hard way, who is married to a super-model, and on a whim decided to be an elected official and won both on his first and second campaigns.
Show us what a non-buffoon can do.
yeah, right. A self-made billionaire doing it the hard way, who is married to a super-model, and on a whim decided to be an elected official and won both on his first and second campaigns.
Show us what a non-buffoon can do.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 16, 2021 01:52 PM (eRIsq)
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>When you posted about the South seceding, my first thought was, "Who would we put in charge of running the new country?" No one I can think of.
Posted by: abbynormal at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (Dse6M)
Yeah, the void of real leadership on our side is shocking. That's one reason why we're foundering so much.
Posted by: abbynormal at July 16, 2021 01:47 PM (Dse6M)
Yeah, the void of real leadership on our side is shocking. That's one reason why we're foundering so much.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (DXFDM)
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>>Mitch never recessed the Senate so Trump could make a recess appointment.
His Father in Law was laundering Chinese Monies to make sure that never happened.
His Father in Law was laundering Chinese Monies to make sure that never happened.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (6Uwi1)
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Dead at July 16, 2021 01:46 PM (z5Vrg)"
Sessions immediately surrendered on recusal. I can tell you that shocked almost nobody in DC. He had a history that if pressured by the right swampers, he would fold. He predictably did.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (bqcn9)
He took on the KKK in the south just like Rudy took on the Mafia in NY. Maybe insiders knew he would fold and was weak but I never heard that at the time Same with Mattis. He was pretty popular around here for quite a while.
Sessions immediately surrendered on recusal. I can tell you that shocked almost nobody in DC. He had a history that if pressured by the right swampers, he would fold. He predictably did.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (bqcn9)
He took on the KKK in the south just like Rudy took on the Mafia in NY. Maybe insiders knew he would fold and was weak but I never heard that at the time Same with Mattis. He was pretty popular around here for quite a while.
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (Ed8Zd)
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But we had mean tweets. Those were fun.
Posted by: BacktoGA at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (MPYWI)
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Trump should've just put his entire executive staff from Trump Inc. in place and fired everyone in DC he could.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)
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We need to return to the spoils system, since it's obvious the Dems never stopped using it.
Day one, everyone is fired. New hire pool is exclusively from the winning campaign.
Day one, everyone is fired. New hire pool is exclusively from the winning campaign.
Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (Wp/Pv)
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)
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I agree that Trump never expected to win and so had no plan in place for a cabinet. All the initial picks were rushed without time to vet properly. He went from brand names instead of quality people.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (SOBYU)
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Cant have it both ways. Cant say Trump was a Superman president better than Reagan, etc and then say oh poor Trump cant blame his pick his hands were tied, nothing he could do.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (SOBYU)
You can't say there's nothing he could do but you CAN say he did as well or better than anyone could have been expected to under the ridiculous circumstances of his presidency.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (SOBYU)
You can't say there's nothing he could do but you CAN say he did as well or better than anyone could have been expected to under the ridiculous circumstances of his presidency.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (c3Hg2)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (/BX3R)
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Thank you, Ellipses.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (Hrwnm)
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I would rather try something new than repeating 2016 & expecting different results. Time is getting very short to save America, if it can be saved at this point.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (FBrfY)
It can't and it won't(at least no this iteration). Doesn't make all criticism valid. The first thing I checked when reading this post was whether Trump actually had meaningful control over the process. If the answer is no, then the criticism doesn't really hold water.
Something unilateral is executive orders and such.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (FBrfY)
It can't and it won't(at least no this iteration). Doesn't make all criticism valid. The first thing I checked when reading this post was whether Trump actually had meaningful control over the process. If the answer is no, then the criticism doesn't really hold water.
Something unilateral is executive orders and such.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:54 PM (z5Vrg)
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I'd call that projection on Coulter's part. She wishes to be liked by the NY crowd and likely spits on the people that buy her books. Always the vibe she gave me.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (vMCab)
Then there was that dude that took her home from the bar and hit her in the poop chute...
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (vMCab)
Then there was that dude that took her home from the bar and hit her in the poop chute...
Posted by: Inogame at July 16, 2021 01:54 PM (53oGX)
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Why do I feel like if Trump were to be re-elected in '24, he wouldn't have learned a damned thing?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 16, 2021 01:54 PM (ptqGC)
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And then Biden proved that the government can put a fucking eggplant in the Oval Office, and it makes zero difference to the procession of events. The Presidency does not matter anymore. Nor do any elected positions at the federal level. It's just window-dressing for a bureaucratic cabal. Opium for the masses.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (7Ttpp)
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Yeah. Trump demonstrated very clearly that the presidency is a false prize. Even if you win it, you'll just be marginalized and ignored and your people - even if they're good - won't be confirmed by a Congress that is utterly beholden to the permanent state apparatus. The federal government is utterly lost, and the only way forward that I see isn't to coopt it or to sweep through it with a headsman's ax, but to marginalize it to the greatest degree possible. The states need to be taken over and the men running them need to tell Washington to fuck off when Washington gets uppity.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (7Ttpp)
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Yeah. Trump demonstrated very clearly that the presidency is a false prize. Even if you win it, you'll just be marginalized and ignored and your people - even if they're good - won't be confirmed by a Congress that is utterly beholden to the permanent state apparatus. The federal government is utterly lost, and the only way forward that I see isn't to coopt it or to sweep through it with a headsman's ax, but to marginalize it to the greatest degree possible. The states need to be taken over and the men running them need to tell Washington to fuck off when Washington gets uppity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 01:54 PM (3p5uk)
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>>Two California men are charged with Molotov cocktail plot to blow up Sacramento Democratic HQ AND the California governor's mansion in a bid to 'go to war' and overturn Trump's 2020 loss
>the other 3 guys were in the FBI and will not be charged tho
ABSOLUT SETUP
>the other 3 guys were in the FBI and will not be charged tho
ABSOLUT SETUP
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:54 PM (6Uwi1)
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I really like and respect President Trump. sometimes tho he can be clueless with people. The Omarosa thing comes to mind.
He's a Silent Gen - a legendary one but still of the type. They can be surprisingly self-involved and it's hard to shift their thinking. He actually does way way better at this than most.
He loves his daughter. He listens to her a lot. That is his biggest fault.
He's a Silent Gen - a legendary one but still of the type. They can be surprisingly self-involved and it's hard to shift their thinking. He actually does way way better at this than most.
He loves his daughter. He listens to her a lot. That is his biggest fault.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2021 01:54 PM (j9HX3)
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You can't say there's nothing he could do but you CAN say he did as well or better than anyone could have been expected to under the ridiculous circumstances of his presidency.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (c3Hg2)
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My sentiments, exactly.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (c3Hg2)
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My sentiments, exactly.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 01:54 PM (2SdPm)
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>Trump sure has great instincts when it comes to personnel.
I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions.
How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?
Until I know the dynamic. Until I understand the information presented and the amount of the appointment, the time constraints and the options. I know him to be generally competent and wont easily believe he appointed enemies and had the where with all to do differently.
Moreover, to torpedo the deep state candidate in the midst of an election takes major balls. and major balls don't correlate very highly with people who rise very high in politics.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the powers involved didn't make this guy an offer he couldn't refuse. They may not have been a viable candidate for this position.
I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions.
How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?
Until I know the dynamic. Until I understand the information presented and the amount of the appointment, the time constraints and the options. I know him to be generally competent and wont easily believe he appointed enemies and had the where with all to do differently.
Moreover, to torpedo the deep state candidate in the midst of an election takes major balls. and major balls don't correlate very highly with people who rise very high in politics.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the powers involved didn't make this guy an offer he couldn't refuse. They may not have been a viable candidate for this position.
Posted by: havelhavolim at July 16, 2021 01:54 PM (fLpTX)
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I am not questioning Trump overall and I don't expect perfection. I am questioning his missteps and his own ability to be introspective and learn from his mistakes. We could have been much further ahead in this game. You can make excuses or you can plan how to do things better in the future. Trump in many cases also hurt himself through a lack of self control and articulation.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:55 PM (bqcn9)
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My guess is most of you pussys say I dont want PDT have never hired or fired. Yeah you fuck up but then you move on.
PDT owned the SWAMP and they wet their panties like most of you in the 4th grade.
He got more done in 4 years than 12 years of Bush and 12 years of Reagan, combined!
FOAD!
PDT owned the SWAMP and they wet their panties like most of you in the 4th grade.
He got more done in 4 years than 12 years of Bush and 12 years of Reagan, combined!
FOAD!
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 16, 2021 01:55 PM (yrol0)
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Trump is the head of the party who put in McConnell and McCarthy as legislative leaders. Is this OK with him? Can he MAGA govern with these two, or will it be 2016-2018 all over again? Mitch never recessed the Senate so Trump could make a recess appointment. Is this OK with Trump?
Posted by: Valiant at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (3MiF
Trump is head of the party, but McConnell doesn't answer to him. Congress has a long history of not deferring to the White House, and Senators especially tend to look down their noses at the guy in the Oval Office.
Posted by: Valiant at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (3MiF
Trump is head of the party, but McConnell doesn't answer to him. Congress has a long history of not deferring to the White House, and Senators especially tend to look down their noses at the guy in the Oval Office.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 16, 2021 01:55 PM (jOcSX)
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"I know Trump remains personally popular with many of you, but for me, this is it: This is the breaking point. He's fucked up too many times, trusted the left too many times. Trusted GOPe saboteurs too many times.
I can only support someone for president who understands the full evil of the enemy. Not who consistently lets them clown him in an absurd bid for eventual acceptance by them."
Calm down.
I can only support someone for president who understands the full evil of the enemy. Not who consistently lets them clown him in an absurd bid for eventual acceptance by them."
Calm down.
Posted by: Shaftoe at July 16, 2021 01:55 PM (1lOfI)
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"I should point out... the very real possibility -- or the likelihood -- that you cannot staff a government with conservatives when you draw from the Establishment GOP -- who are almost all country club Rockefeller Republican liberals."
This is why, if at all possible, we must find ways and support breaking up DC and sending Govt HQs to flyover territory.
It's not a panacea, but it gets closer to solving the problem
This is why, if at all possible, we must find ways and support breaking up DC and sending Govt HQs to flyover territory.
It's not a panacea, but it gets closer to solving the problem
Posted by: Anchorman at July 16, 2021 01:55 PM (kCQDc)
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239 Cant have it both ways. Cant say Trump was a Superman president better than Reagan, etc and then say oh poor Trump cant blame his pick his hands were tied, nothing he could do.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (SOBYU)
You can hobble a great basketball player. It doesn't take away their skill, it just means they were hobbled.
We don't know what Trump's picks would've looked like if he had more freedom to do so. In those areas where he had more control, he did a great job. In terms of extracting concessions from the legislature, maybe he could've done better, who knows. We're not privy to whether a certain amount of horse trading would've done it or if it wasn't possible.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (SOBYU)
You can hobble a great basketball player. It doesn't take away their skill, it just means they were hobbled.
We don't know what Trump's picks would've looked like if he had more freedom to do so. In those areas where he had more control, he did a great job. In terms of extracting concessions from the legislature, maybe he could've done better, who knows. We're not privy to whether a certain amount of horse trading would've done it or if it wasn't possible.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:56 PM (z5Vrg)
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Nearly every news show features a liberal saying the most insane stuff. They are splitting sevens and doubling down. Crazy!
Posted by: Unkaren at July 16, 2021 01:56 PM (vGJY7)
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I will add even though rhomboid may not agree, that in terms of our interests, pure raw talent, drive, determination and effectiveness, you're NEVER gonna get a better option than Trump in this lifetime. Anyone who thinks so is in fairyland.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (c3Hg2)
Let's say somebody else runs as the R in 2024, and wins. Even DeSantis. Why am I supposed to believe that they didn't just agree this guy was part of the club? The election being stolen in such blatant fashion tells me we had the right guy. Going back to "normal" is telling me we took the blue pill.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (c3Hg2)
Let's say somebody else runs as the R in 2024, and wins. Even DeSantis. Why am I supposed to believe that they didn't just agree this guy was part of the club? The election being stolen in such blatant fashion tells me we had the right guy. Going back to "normal" is telling me we took the blue pill.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 16, 2021 01:56 PM (wAnMi)
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Trump's most famous quote before becoming POTUS:
YOU'RE FIRED!!!
His most infamous method of governing as POTUS:
NEVER FIRE PEOPLE; JUST BITCH ABOUT THEM.
YOU'RE FIRED!!!
His most infamous method of governing as POTUS:
NEVER FIRE PEOPLE; JUST BITCH ABOUT THEM.
Posted by: Still Shaving w/ Schick at July 16, 2021 01:56 PM (e/gaB)
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I like that we're arguing about Trump having trouble accomplishing anything under a topic that is literally "government and media protect their own"
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (/BX3R)
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The people around him, the swamp creatures that fill these positions for both parties, are everywhere...PDT never had a chance. Most so called republicans are dog shit RINOs
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:29 PM (GPwVZ)
I think it's a mixture of both naivety and a covert, widely populated, unabashedly incestuous, solidly established deep state system in DC.
Plus Ivanka and Jared who probably encouraged many of these appointments.
Anyone going to DC (and I'm going to include DeSantes) will find themselves faced with these same odds for mistakes in personnel.
Where would Trump have found the people that we think he should have hired?
The people around him, the swamp creatures that fill these positions for both parties, are everywhere...PDT never had a chance. Most so called republicans are dog shit RINOs
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 01:29 PM (GPwVZ)
I think it's a mixture of both naivety and a covert, widely populated, unabashedly incestuous, solidly established deep state system in DC.
Plus Ivanka and Jared who probably encouraged many of these appointments.
Anyone going to DC (and I'm going to include DeSantes) will find themselves faced with these same odds for mistakes in personnel.
Where would Trump have found the people that we think he should have hired?
Posted by: Justsayin' at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (Fs5vw)
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you're NEVER gonna get a better option than Trump in this lifetime ---------------------- perhaps, that sounds a bit hyperbolic, but could be true. There are absolutely parts of Trump that are awesome and refreshing. There are also parts of him that leave a bit wanting. Excuses can be made and some are justified. They stole an election from him for crying out loud. On one hand, part of me would like to see Trump say he made some personnel mistakes and be sorry. On other hand, apologizing can be a fool's game and there is no reason to show weakness when you are winning.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (sX1BW)
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Lots of new nics here today ,who all clearly knew all along that kavanaugh, Comey Barrett, Barr etc were shills for the Dems.
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (Ed8Zd)
I was blindsided by all three, I'll admit. So was Levin on Barr but warned about Kavanaugh from the get go. This is why Upchuck Grassley and the other Repuke turds fucked up Kav's hearings and let it become a circus: he was never scrutinized from a conservative standpoint. FatAssley should have kicked all the fucking cameras out when the freak show of mentally ill skeezers began. That requires leadership skills, something the Karl Rove finishing schools eradicate.
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (Ed8Zd)
I was blindsided by all three, I'll admit. So was Levin on Barr but warned about Kavanaugh from the get go. This is why Upchuck Grassley and the other Repuke turds fucked up Kav's hearings and let it become a circus: he was never scrutinized from a conservative standpoint. FatAssley should have kicked all the fucking cameras out when the freak show of mentally ill skeezers began. That requires leadership skills, something the Karl Rove finishing schools eradicate.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (y7DUB)
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"Trump is a buffoon.
Posted by: Cringe Biscuit at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (Eus9b)"
Go back to shoving blunt objects in your mothers ass. The only buffoon is a guy who can't complete a sentence without dribbling, dissembling or dozing off
Posted by: Cringe Biscuit at July 16, 2021 01:50 PM (Eus9b)"
Go back to shoving blunt objects in your mothers ass. The only buffoon is a guy who can't complete a sentence without dribbling, dissembling or dozing off
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (bqcn9)
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Nothing but bad news abounds, unfortunately. If nothing else, here's a picture of a sweet lass to act as ersatz good news in the absence of the real thing:
https://is.gd/uFnbWM
https://is.gd/uFnbWM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (3p5uk)
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"You can't say there's nothing he could do but you CAN say he did as well or better than anyone could have been expected to under the ridiculous circumstances of his presidency."
- July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (c3Hg2)
Pretty hard to summarize Trump's presidency any better than this.
It's amazing that Trump accomplished as much as he did while essentially spending four years treading water in a piranha tank.
- July 16, 2021 01:53 PM (c3Hg2)
Pretty hard to summarize Trump's presidency any better than this.
It's amazing that Trump accomplished as much as he did while essentially spending four years treading water in a piranha tank.
Posted by: MW at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (fs4s+)
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I will add even though rhomboid may not agree, that in terms of our interests, pure raw talent, drive, determination and effectiveness, you're NEVER gonna get a better option than Trump in this lifetime. Anyone who thinks so is in fairyland.
Lets say that Trump's Rolodex was full of the absolute best people for every appointed position.
* Do you think those assholes in the Senate would permit it?
* And would these highly talented people utterly trash their careers, families and livelihoods for at max, a four year low paying gig where everyone under your command hates you and is conjuring up ways to torpedo your agenda?
The way it is going now, if you were to take any position under a Trump administration, your kids would hate you, your spouse will leave and your parents will write you out of the will.
Lets say that Trump's Rolodex was full of the absolute best people for every appointed position.
* Do you think those assholes in the Senate would permit it?
* And would these highly talented people utterly trash their careers, families and livelihoods for at max, a four year low paying gig where everyone under your command hates you and is conjuring up ways to torpedo your agenda?
The way it is going now, if you were to take any position under a Trump administration, your kids would hate you, your spouse will leave and your parents will write you out of the will.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (eRIsq)
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>Two California men are charged with Molotov cocktail plot to blow up Sacramento Democratic HQ AND the California governor's mansion in a bid to 'go to war' and overturn Trump's 2020 loss
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (bTQ72)
Funny. When commies were slinging Molotovs around Portland every night last summer, no media framed it as "they were trying to blow up the Justice Center" or whatever. Because they don't blow up, they spread sticky fuel which is then lit. Muh narrative.
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (bTQ72)
Funny. When commies were slinging Molotovs around Portland every night last summer, no media framed it as "they were trying to blow up the Justice Center" or whatever. Because they don't blow up, they spread sticky fuel which is then lit. Muh narrative.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (DXFDM)
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See you later when the NearlyNeverTrump "I told ya so" circle jerk is over. Maybe a South Africa and/or Cuba thread??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (UHVv4)
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Why do I feel like if Trump were to be re-elected in '24, he wouldn't have learned a damned thing?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!
It's not that he wouldn't have learned, it's anything short of taking belt fed weapons and clearing out people, nothing is going to change.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!
It's not that he wouldn't have learned, it's anything short of taking belt fed weapons and clearing out people, nothing is going to change.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (OCTRt)
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It didn't matter who Trump hired or fired. The swamp and the media were determined to stop him by all means necessary.
They still are.
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Exactly Just Lily. And they proved the lengths they were willing to go with the election and then walling off DC.
Where are the Republicans telling them to tear down the wall? Sucking their own tiny detached dicks, that's where.
They still are.
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Exactly Just Lily. And they proved the lengths they were willing to go with the election and then walling off DC.
Where are the Republicans telling them to tear down the wall? Sucking their own tiny detached dicks, that's where.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (c3Hg2)
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Want to know what decent appointments that PDT may have wanted could expect?
General Flynn ring a bell?
It took a presidential pardon get that whole thing stopped.
General Flynn ring a bell?
It took a presidential pardon get that whole thing stopped.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (2SdPm)
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"THEY WERE WILLING TO TANK THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD ECONOMY TO GET RID OF HIM."
They were willing to murder countless old Republicans, like my Mom and Dad, in order to make this happen.
I really can't forgive anyone who voted for that drooling pedo and worked against Trump being successful.
"THEY WERE WILLING TO TANK THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD ECONOMY TO GET RID OF HIM."
They were willing to murder countless old Republicans, like my Mom and Dad, in order to make this happen.
I really can't forgive anyone who voted for that drooling pedo and worked against Trump being successful.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 16, 2021 01:58 PM (NuVOb)
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@169 - Hm, so no promotion of trannies, eh Google? What's that? Trannyism doesn't cause serious emotional harm? Well I never.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 16, 2021 01:58 PM (E+OcO)
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I should point out... the very real possibility -- or the likelihood -- that you cannot staff a government with conservatives when you draw from the Establishment GOP -- who are almost all country club Rockefeller Republican liberals.
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I've been bitching about Kelly Anne Conway for years. Trump relied on her for years for the ins and outs of Republican picks. Throw in the McConnell factor too.
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I've been bitching about Kelly Anne Conway for years. Trump relied on her for years for the ins and outs of Republican picks. Throw in the McConnell factor too.
Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at July 16, 2021 01:58 PM (eMEkg)
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277 Trump's most famous quote before becoming POTUS:
YOU'RE FIRED!!!
His most infamous method of governing as POTUS:
NEVER FIRE PEOPLE; JUST BITCH ABOUT THEM.
Posted by: Still Shaving w/ Schick at July 16, 2021 01:56 PM (e/gaB)
Narrative during Trump's turn?
Chaos in the White House administration as Trump constantly replaces people.
YOU'RE FIRED!!!
His most infamous method of governing as POTUS:
NEVER FIRE PEOPLE; JUST BITCH ABOUT THEM.
Posted by: Still Shaving w/ Schick at July 16, 2021 01:56 PM (e/gaB)
Narrative during Trump's turn?
Chaos in the White House administration as Trump constantly replaces people.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 01:58 PM (z5Vrg)
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As for me, I still see the GOP as standing between the Dems and us.
As blockers.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (z79tQ)
I think the GOP will be standing with the Dems. They won't give a damn about us when the burning times come.
As blockers.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (z79tQ)
I think the GOP will be standing with the Dems. They won't give a damn about us when the burning times come.
Posted by: megthered at July 16, 2021 01:58 PM (YLNRu)
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A little context on the AG for the District of Delaware (or anywhere else) pick.
Constitutionally, the president nominates and the senate votes yes/no on these positions.
Practically, they are subject to the same blue slip process that district judges still go through (and circuit judges used to).
So Trump either nominates someone in Delaware who two Dem Senators approve of, or his guy doesn't get a vote.
I'm not certain on the "acting" AG rules for a specific district, but chances are it would be some sort of leftist sympathizer as 90% of the "non-political positions" in the office are, of course, political leftists.
As aggravating as it is that Trump gets credit for installing Coons/Carper's guy, it's equally aggravating that the Senators in TX, SC, TN, etc don't use their blocking positions to do the same thing. Guarantee you the AG in charge of the four Texas jurisdictions is someone very acceptable to Joe Biden, even though Ted Cruz and John Cornyn could play the same hardball that the DE Senators did for their guy.
Constitutionally, the president nominates and the senate votes yes/no on these positions.
Practically, they are subject to the same blue slip process that district judges still go through (and circuit judges used to).
So Trump either nominates someone in Delaware who two Dem Senators approve of, or his guy doesn't get a vote.
I'm not certain on the "acting" AG rules for a specific district, but chances are it would be some sort of leftist sympathizer as 90% of the "non-political positions" in the office are, of course, political leftists.
As aggravating as it is that Trump gets credit for installing Coons/Carper's guy, it's equally aggravating that the Senators in TX, SC, TN, etc don't use their blocking positions to do the same thing. Guarantee you the AG in charge of the four Texas jurisdictions is someone very acceptable to Joe Biden, even though Ted Cruz and John Cornyn could play the same hardball that the DE Senators did for their guy.
Posted by: Stephen at July 16, 2021 01:59 PM (pDXqw)
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What scares me about desantis is that he does not have "f*ck-you" money like PDT... many a good man was ruined by the swamp that is DC.
Posted by: Haywood at July 16, 2021 01:59 PM (a9DMy)
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>>What's that? Trannyism doesn't cause serious emotional harm
Pretty sure Jessica Yannev's Dad would disagree.
Pretty sure Jessica Yannev's Dad would disagree.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 01:59 PM (6Uwi1)
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Test'd
Posted by: Unkaren at July 16, 2021 01:59 PM (vGJY7)
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"THEY WERE WILLING TO TANK THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD ECONOMY TO GET RID OF HIM."
They were willing to murder countless old Republicans, like my Mom and Dad, in order to make this happen.
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This
They were willing to murder countless old Republicans, like my Mom and Dad, in order to make this happen.
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This
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 01:59 PM (/BX3R)
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as far as "where to find good people" look at what Biden is doing and apply to someone like DeSantis or - my fave - Rand Paul.
Biden is going with a TON of Delaware grifter type lawyers and layabouts to staff the WH. they are gonna be loyal to Mr Delaware for sure.
DeSantis/Paul should just do the same, look to their states for good "helpers." and STAY in their homes states, not DC, as much as possible. Joey No-Pants is Delaware still all the damn time, annoying us.
Biden is going with a TON of Delaware grifter type lawyers and layabouts to staff the WH. they are gonna be loyal to Mr Delaware for sure.
DeSantis/Paul should just do the same, look to their states for good "helpers." and STAY in their homes states, not DC, as much as possible. Joey No-Pants is Delaware still all the damn time, annoying us.
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262 Why do I feel like if Trump were to be re-elected in '24, he wouldn't have learned a damned thing?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 16, 2021 01:54 PM (ptqGC)
Why do I feel like people that want DeSantis because "He's not Trump and won't have his baggage!" have amnesia and forget that McCain and Romney were both treated as the next coming of Hitler before Trump was even seen as a possibility.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 16, 2021 01:54 PM (ptqGC)
Why do I feel like people that want DeSantis because "He's not Trump and won't have his baggage!" have amnesia and forget that McCain and Romney were both treated as the next coming of Hitler before Trump was even seen as a possibility.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 01:59 PM (vMCab)
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ellipsis, nah, don't disagree that there is an almost amusing bit of delusion here that there are many - or even any - people available to put in who would match Trump's drive and basic sound intentions.
But let's keep in mind that Trump himself - from his hijacking of a major party nomination, to being elected - was a nearly-impossible outlier come to life. So technically one cannot exclude that others may emerge.
Second-guessing is almost always a tedious and stupid exercise, but around here it's becoming a way of life. And so disconnected from reality or practical possibilities.
But let's keep in mind that Trump himself - from his hijacking of a major party nomination, to being elected - was a nearly-impossible outlier come to life. So technically one cannot exclude that others may emerge.
Second-guessing is almost always a tedious and stupid exercise, but around here it's becoming a way of life. And so disconnected from reality or practical possibilities.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:59 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2021 02:00 PM (6Uwi1)
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How do you make something not "look like spam?"
This is AoS. Put the word boobies in there somewhere.
This is AoS. Put the word boobies in there somewhere.
Posted by: Bosk at July 16, 2021 02:00 PM (FgPjD)
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Trump in many cases also hurt himself through a lack of self control and articulation.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:55 PM (bqcn9)
Absofuckinglutely. My forehead was red for 4 fucking years. He's a bull in a china shop. And, I don't think anybody hated the guy more than I did prior to 2015. But at the moment, I don't see anybody else crazy enough to jump in the fray that I can trust to do the right thing. Sadly, I think we're a few years away from that - and we don't have a few years.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:55 PM (bqcn9)
Absofuckinglutely. My forehead was red for 4 fucking years. He's a bull in a china shop. And, I don't think anybody hated the guy more than I did prior to 2015. But at the moment, I don't see anybody else crazy enough to jump in the fray that I can trust to do the right thing. Sadly, I think we're a few years away from that - and we don't have a few years.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 16, 2021 02:00 PM (wAnMi)
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DOJ is asshoe.
Posted by: flounder at July 16, 2021 02:00 PM (KnJdm)
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Trump is still working directly with McCarthy in the America First Agenda. He met with him Last night. That shows me he hasn't completely changed. McCarthy is only entertaining Trump because he holds tremendous political power and Republicans can't win without him. McCarthy is all about McCarthy. He's a swamp creature through and through. Yet here we are.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 02:00 PM (bqcn9)
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They were willing to murder countless old Republicans, like my Mom and Dad, in order to make this happen.
oh they'd happily murder tons of young Republicans too
and old and young Democrats
they just like murdering
a display of their power
oh they'd happily murder tons of young Republicans too
and old and young Democrats
they just like murdering
a display of their power
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2021 02:00 PM (j9HX3)
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If we've learned nothing else, hopefully we've learned that no "wrong" candidate will ever become president again.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 02:00 PM (/BX3R)
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Let's say somebody else runs as the R in 2024, and wins. Even DeSantis. Why am I supposed to believe that they didn't just agree this guy was part of the club? The election being stolen in such blatant fashion tells me we had the right guy. Going back to "normal" is telling me we took the blue pill.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 16, 2021 01:56 PM (wAnMi)
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This is the conundrum. Trump (for all his faults) might well be the best that we can hope for. The establishment didn't back DeSantis in his initial campaign for governor -- and he's made sure to keep his MAGA cred. But that doesn't mean he hasn't been subtly co-opted.
I also question whether anyone other than Trump can mobilize the MAGA coalition the way Trump can (and push the GOP realignment) and still win.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 16, 2021 01:56 PM (wAnMi)
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This is the conundrum. Trump (for all his faults) might well be the best that we can hope for. The establishment didn't back DeSantis in his initial campaign for governor -- and he's made sure to keep his MAGA cred. But that doesn't mean he hasn't been subtly co-opted.
I also question whether anyone other than Trump can mobilize the MAGA coalition the way Trump can (and push the GOP realignment) and still win.
Posted by: Revenant at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (s3j76)
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308 Trump is still working directly with McCarthy in the America First Agenda. He met with him Last night. That shows me he hasn't completely changed. McCarthy is only entertaining Trump because he holds tremendous political power and Republicans can't win without him. McCarthy is all about McCarthy. He's a swamp creature through and through. Yet here we are.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 02:00 PM (bqcn9)
Trump hopes to execute a takeover of the Republican party. Something with which you agree and I disagree.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 02:00 PM (bqcn9)
Trump hopes to execute a takeover of the Republican party. Something with which you agree and I disagree.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (z5Vrg)
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Trump was not perfect but I am not willing to throw in the towel with yet.
He won the election and the audits will prove it. There is a groundswell of people who want to get involved in politics and put these politicians to bed and take over the Republican Party.
He won the election and the audits will prove it. There is a groundswell of people who want to get involved in politics and put these politicians to bed and take over the Republican Party.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (jr2EU)
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I don't think DeSantis remotely resembles McCain or Mittens in any way.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)
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Sessions should have been Director of Homeland Security. He knew more about the illegal problem than anyone on the hill other than Stephen Miller, who worked for him. I read all the reports Sessions wrote on this. That is where he should have been.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (HHmsi)
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With all his faults PDT is the best President I ever lived thru. G-D bless him
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (GPwVZ)
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"Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 16, 2021 02:00 PM (wAnMi)"
Those are generally good impulses if you can put borders on them. Trump many times cannot and it hurts him greatly.
Those are generally good impulses if you can put borders on them. Trump many times cannot and it hurts him greatly.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (bqcn9)
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Ace: I've said it before, but I'm done with this party
Me. Sure, Ace. Tis is how we got here. Get pissed, stomp your vote, don't vote and allow scum-sucking FILTH to take over. Great. Nice.
Conservatives don't like government and we don't like politicians, even our own. Is that news to you? It shouldn't be. Work within the party if you want to change it and stop pouting
Me. Sure, Ace. Tis is how we got here. Get pissed, stomp your vote, don't vote and allow scum-sucking FILTH to take over. Great. Nice.
Conservatives don't like government and we don't like politicians, even our own. Is that news to you? It shouldn't be. Work within the party if you want to change it and stop pouting
Posted by: Uncle Rick at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (48/MM)
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>>>You have the media, social media monopolies (who cooperate with
government to censor news) suppressing the Hunter Biden story and
claiming, without evidence, that it's "Russian Disinformation."
And you have Psaki psaying that Americans who post "mipsinformation pshould be banned from all platforms.
I am m inclined to agree.
government to censor news) suppressing the Hunter Biden story and
claiming, without evidence, that it's "Russian Disinformation."
And you have Psaki psaying that Americans who post "mipsinformation pshould be banned from all platforms.
I am m inclined to agree.
Posted by: flounder at July 16, 2021 02:02 PM (KnJdm)
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With all his faults PDT is the best President I ever lived thru. G-D bless him
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (GPwVZ)
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(fistbump)
I would've loved to have seen what America could've been once again if the Democrats and Republicans loved America, too.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (GPwVZ)
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(fistbump)
I would've loved to have seen what America could've been once again if the Democrats and Republicans loved America, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 02:02 PM (/BX3R)
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Trump was not perfect but I am not willing to throw in the towel with yet. ----------------- Correct. DeSantis is not perfect, but I'm willing to support him, not necessarily over Trump, just in general now. Whoever emerges, emerges. They are both still fighting for now, and we need as many as we can get. I'm rooting for both of them.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 16, 2021 02:03 PM (sX1BW)
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Go back to shoving blunt objects in your mothers ass.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (bqcn9)
but she likes it
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 01:57 PM (bqcn9)
but she likes it
Posted by: Cringe Cracker at July 16, 2021 02:03 PM (yrol0)
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If Trump wants the Nom, he gets it. If he runs, he wins. He'll get even more votes. The infrastructure is in place to limit DEM cheating below last election.
He'll have brilliant economics and For Pol. The rest will be as good as the GOP lets him be.
It all rests on how much headway the gop voters can make with their effort to reform the GOP party.
This is all Mitch's fault in the end.
Trump is as good as the GOP will let him be.
He'll have brilliant economics and For Pol. The rest will be as good as the GOP lets him be.
It all rests on how much headway the gop voters can make with their effort to reform the GOP party.
This is all Mitch's fault in the end.
Trump is as good as the GOP will let him be.
Posted by: Skarp Hedin at July 16, 2021 02:04 PM (AWt0L)
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Stephen, good info, part of which I was trying to inject above. The problem - mechanically - is of long-standing. What's changed is the overall deterioration of integrity, safeguards, etc - that allows such absurd outrages as Hillary not being prosecuted under the Espionage Act, the FBI/DOJ to both mount a soft coup against candidate/president-elect Trump without consequences, AND then maintain the 'skeer with the ridiculous Mueller operation.
A serious Senate fight over USATs is quite the rarity, it's usually handled in the "process" portion, via that blue slip (veto) "system". That's bad enough, but has not hobbled the country that badly over time. But when you have rotted, empty institutions, all systems produce failure, or worse.
A serious Senate fight over USATs is quite the rarity, it's usually handled in the "process" portion, via that blue slip (veto) "system". That's bad enough, but has not hobbled the country that badly over time. But when you have rotted, empty institutions, all systems produce failure, or worse.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 02:04 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at July 16, 2021 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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With all his faults PDT is the best President I ever lived thru. G-D bless him
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (GPwVZ)
This also. Think where we would be without the 4 years of the Glorious Scalp Weasel.
He certainly pulled back the curtain like non before.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (GPwVZ)
This also. Think where we would be without the 4 years of the Glorious Scalp Weasel.
He certainly pulled back the curtain like non before.
Posted by: Bosk at July 16, 2021 02:04 PM (FgPjD)
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"Trump hopes to execute a takeover of the Republican party. Something with which you agree and I disagree.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (z5Vrg)"
I will believe it when I see it. He is making the right moves in supporting certain candidates in primaries. If you can get enough of those people elected, pretty soon people like McCarthy are gone. I get that he's the current caucus leader, but he's the same weak sauce holding us back. I only hope Trump trebuchets him into the sun at the right time.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (z5Vrg)"
I will believe it when I see it. He is making the right moves in supporting certain candidates in primaries. If you can get enough of those people elected, pretty soon people like McCarthy are gone. I get that he's the current caucus leader, but he's the same weak sauce holding us back. I only hope Trump trebuchets him into the sun at the right time.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 02:04 PM (bqcn9)
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314 I don't think DeSantis remotely resembles McCain or Mittens in any way.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (ptqGC)
You miss my point.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (ptqGC)
You miss my point.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 02:04 PM (vMCab)
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I can easily hold the position that Trump was the best since Reagan and also utterly powerless to do much of anything. Both statements are objectively true.
I can easily hold the position that Trump was the best since Reagan and also utterly powerless to do much of anything. Both statements are objectively true.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 02:05 PM (7Ttpp)
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325 Stephen, good info, part of which I was trying to inject above. The problem - mechanically - is of long-standing. What's changed is the overall deterioration of integrity, safeguards, etc - that allows such absurd outrages as Hillary not being prosecuted under the Espionage Act, the FBI/DOJ to both mount a soft coup against candidate/president-elect Trump without consequences, AND then maintain the 'skeer with the ridiculous Mueller operation.
A serious Senate fight over USATs is quite the rarity, it's usually handled in the "process" portion, via that blue slip (veto) "system". That's bad enough, but has not hobbled the country that badly over time. But when you have rotted, empty institutions, all systems produce failure, or worse.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 02:04 PM (OTzUX)
I recall Mitch running a very hard defense of the blue slip system.
A serious Senate fight over USATs is quite the rarity, it's usually handled in the "process" portion, via that blue slip (veto) "system". That's bad enough, but has not hobbled the country that badly over time. But when you have rotted, empty institutions, all systems produce failure, or worse.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 02:04 PM (OTzUX)
I recall Mitch running a very hard defense of the blue slip system.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 02:05 PM (z5Vrg)
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A guy on War Room said he'll have evidence soon that some members of the GOPe in GA have connections to the CCP.
Other than trials and public executions, which will never happen, we're screwed.
Other than trials and public executions, which will never happen, we're screwed.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 16, 2021 02:05 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:05 PM (SOBYU)
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I should point out... the very real possibility -- or the likelihood -- that you cannot staff a government with conservatives when you draw from the Establishment GOP -- who are almost all country club Rockefeller Republican liberals.
This. So if 2024 goes to Trump, he needs to cut like my knife: deep, wide, and often. Go to the states for appointees. Clean bouse.
This. So if 2024 goes to Trump, he needs to cut like my knife: deep, wide, and often. Go to the states for appointees. Clean bouse.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 16, 2021 02:05 PM (axyOa)
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You miss my point. ---------------- That's the point.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 16, 2021 02:05 PM (sX1BW)
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I would've loved to have seen what America could've been once again if the Democrats and Republicans loved America, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 02:02 PM (/BX3R)
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Cutting taxes, cutting regulation, cutting the budget and a border wall was well within the grasp of the GOP. PDT wanted those bills. The GOP chose not to do what they campaigned on.
The GOP knew that if they produced legislation, it would be much harder to undo anything, so, they did their best to make sure PDT used EO's and also probably fought against PDT trying to overturn Obama era EO's.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 02:02 PM (/BX3R)
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Cutting taxes, cutting regulation, cutting the budget and a border wall was well within the grasp of the GOP. PDT wanted those bills. The GOP chose not to do what they campaigned on.
The GOP knew that if they produced legislation, it would be much harder to undo anything, so, they did their best to make sure PDT used EO's and also probably fought against PDT trying to overturn Obama era EO's.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 02:06 PM (2SdPm)
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"you CAN say he did as well or better than anyone could have been expected to under the ridiculous circumstances of his presidency."
What I liked about DJT: Roaring economy until COVID. Got closer to speaking the truth than most presidents do. Had all the right enemies. Convinced me he loved America.
What I did not like about DJT: No concern for uncontrolled spending. Rent moratorium. "Platinum plan" pander. Pharma price controls.
Biggest lie about DJT: Calling him racist. He's not a racist. He doesn't seem to even see or think about race. He'll give anybody a chance.
What I liked about DJT: Roaring economy until COVID. Got closer to speaking the truth than most presidents do. Had all the right enemies. Convinced me he loved America.
What I did not like about DJT: No concern for uncontrolled spending. Rent moratorium. "Platinum plan" pander. Pharma price controls.
Biggest lie about DJT: Calling him racist. He's not a racist. He doesn't seem to even see or think about race. He'll give anybody a chance.
Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at July 16, 2021 02:06 PM (qpX6U)
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The person who deserves the ire is Weiss. Not Trump. Trump didnt hide the laptop. I think we forget that around that time he faced 2 impeachment trials, threats of more , the first modern pandemic , a re-election campaign, and constant roadblocks by the complicit GOPe. The stuff he could do without the GOPe, like foreign relations, getting us out of bad trade deals and treaties, he did excellently.
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 02:06 PM (Ed8Zd)
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I think the test needed for either Trump or DeSantis if they want their vote is a pledge to actually decreasing the size of all federal agencies by massive amounts. I'm talking personnel, 50% cut in all of them but Border Patrol to start with.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 16, 2021 02:06 PM (qH6FZ)
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For all the Democrats' performative hysteria about Trump supposedly undermining NORMZ his downfall was largely because he trusted too much in America's norms. He didn't purge enough people. He was too nice. We need real leadership, people who are unafraid to ruthlessly purge all corrupt institutions.
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at July 16, 2021 02:06 PM (CVpUt)
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32 A guy on War Room said he'll have evidence soon that some members of the GOPe in GA have connections to the CCP.
Some? That is their whole schtick.
Some? That is their whole schtick.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 16, 2021 02:06 PM (gpKIi)
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@rhomboid and yd, you're both right as usual. @revenant, you're right too. There is a long tradition in the Senate that the senators have a say in who gets appointed on their home turf, whether it's postmasters or marshals or judges, because they can block the confirmation. Oftentimes all a President of the opposite party can do, especially in a tiny state like Delaware, is the least bad choice from the other party. @LaSue, I agree with you too. I would have been happy with Hillary not being President and Gorsuch on the Court. I had low expectations beyond that. Trump turned out to be way better than I expected.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 16, 2021 02:06 PM (g4YTo)
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The funny part of all of this? In just 1 year, we will be looking at this thread reminiscing of the good old days. We're this fucked after a little over 6 months? The mind boggles what the junta is going to do to us before the midterms.
Right now we're just listening to that bell warning of a stall. Wait until we go into the tail spin.
Right now we're just listening to that bell warning of a stall. Wait until we go into the tail spin.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 16, 2021 02:07 PM (wAnMi)
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Get pissed, stomp your vote, don't vote and allow scum-sucking FILTH to take over.
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Or stay committed, vote your ass off, and the FILTH will win anyway, as they always do, because this country's governing system is rigged joke, and a bad one. It's the Gallagher routine of nation-states.
Get pissed, stomp your vote, don't vote and allow scum-sucking FILTH to take over.
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Or stay committed, vote your ass off, and the FILTH will win anyway, as they always do, because this country's governing system is rigged joke, and a bad one. It's the Gallagher routine of nation-states.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 02:07 PM (7Ttpp)
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I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions.
How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?
Posted by: havelhavolim
You are CEO of a business. You pick who you want to run your divisions.
I, as Chairman of the Board have veto power over your picks. Go ahead. Pick. No, not him. No, not her. Pick dammit. No, not him. Why the hell aren't you picking your division heads?
You're fired. (That's exactly how it went.)
How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?
Posted by: havelhavolim
You are CEO of a business. You pick who you want to run your divisions.
I, as Chairman of the Board have veto power over your picks. Go ahead. Pick. No, not him. No, not her. Pick dammit. No, not him. Why the hell aren't you picking your division heads?
You're fired. (That's exactly how it went.)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 02:07 PM (OCTRt)
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339 I think the test needed for either Trump or DeSantis if they want their vote is a pledge to actually decreasing the size of all federal agencies by massive amounts. I'm talking personnel, 50% cut in all of them but Border Patrol to start with.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 16, 2021 02:06 PM (qH6FZ)
You need the legislature for that. I'm starting to think this co-equal branch nonsense has actually convinced people that the legislature doesn't hold nearly all the formal power.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 16, 2021 02:06 PM (qH6FZ)
You need the legislature for that. I'm starting to think this co-equal branch nonsense has actually convinced people that the legislature doesn't hold nearly all the formal power.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 02:07 PM (z5Vrg)
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Trump sure has great instincts when it comes to personnel. I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions. How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?
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How about someone come up with some better suggestions?
I don't recall anyone at the time saying Trump shouldn't select Kavanaugh for SCOTUS. I don't recall anyone at the time saying Trump shouldn't select Amy Coney Barrett for SCOTUS.
Everyone was cheering on those selections. How'd that turn out? Going to put all the blame on Trump for those selections when there was no one on the right who warned those were going to turn out to be bad choices?
How about everyone wake up to the fact that the entire political system from top to bottom in this country is broken and corrupt and there's nothing one man can do to fix it.
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How about someone come up with some better suggestions?
I don't recall anyone at the time saying Trump shouldn't select Kavanaugh for SCOTUS. I don't recall anyone at the time saying Trump shouldn't select Amy Coney Barrett for SCOTUS.
Everyone was cheering on those selections. How'd that turn out? Going to put all the blame on Trump for those selections when there was no one on the right who warned those were going to turn out to be bad choices?
How about everyone wake up to the fact that the entire political system from top to bottom in this country is broken and corrupt and there's nothing one man can do to fix it.
Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (Do5/p)
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317 With all his faults PDT is the best President I ever lived thru. G-D bless him
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (GPwVZ)
Yes. Why would I dump on the greatest president in ages? Who would have been better? I think Trump performed a valuable service that no one else could have.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (GPwVZ)
Yes. Why would I dump on the greatest president in ages? Who would have been better? I think Trump performed a valuable service that no one else could have.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (Hrwnm)
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Those of you saying that DeSantis is some kind of closet swamp creature, go light yourself on fire. There is zero to support that. It's troll bait and right out the DNC's strategy to undermine him. So fuck off
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (bqcn9)
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So when people say President Trump got elected because he was NOT a politician, and yet people say he was betrayed by many of his appointments because he was not a politician, it makes my head hurt. It's like they are trying to make me think that it's hopeless to even think about cleaning up the mess that Washington DC has become. Obviously, against huge odds, President Trump came closer than most men could have, but it's very disheartening.
Posted by: Chillin the most at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (lonOK)
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If Trump is the head of the Party, then why is that lying, weasel asshat Ronna Romney McDaniel the head of the RNC?
Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (8/6aZ)
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A guy on War Room said he'll have evidence soon that some members of the GOPe in GA have connections to the CCP.
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Next you'll tell me that the Senate Majority Leader and his Transportation Secretary wife did, too.
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Next you'll tell me that the Senate Majority Leader and his Transportation Secretary wife did, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (/BX3R)
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Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 02:07 PM (7Ttpp)
After the audits are complete the voting system changes for the better.
After the audits are complete the voting system changes for the better.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (jr2EU)
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Scent of a Woman....something about a flamethrower Good part...warms my loins.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (GSBVq)
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Look, I still love Trump. Lord knows, my husband and I donated more to him than any candidate ever. I just want to see or hear some evidence that he's learned bigly from his four years in the Swamp.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (ptqGC)
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75 to 80% of the elected class in DC is OWNED BY CHINA.
It didn't matter what Trump did. He was 1 against 100,000.
He's still the best fucking thing to happen to the White House in a generation or two.
It didn't matter what Trump did. He was 1 against 100,000.
He's still the best fucking thing to happen to the White House in a generation or two.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)
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Has anyone run for President, lost, ran again 4 years later and won? And I dont mean ran in the primary, I mean was the party nominee. I cant think of anyone, maybe in the 19th century?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (SOBYU)
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You are CEO of a business. You pick who you want to run your divisions.
I, as Chairman of the Board have veto power over your picks. Go ahead. Pick. No, not him. No, not her. Pick dammit. No, not him. Why the hell aren't you picking your division heads?
You're fired. (That's exactly how it went.)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 02:07 PM (OCTRt)
This is actually how the presidency in Iran works. The Supreme Leader has to approve candidates.
I, as Chairman of the Board have veto power over your picks. Go ahead. Pick. No, not him. No, not her. Pick dammit. No, not him. Why the hell aren't you picking your division heads?
You're fired. (That's exactly how it went.)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 02:07 PM (OCTRt)
This is actually how the presidency in Iran works. The Supreme Leader has to approve candidates.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (z5Vrg)
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Hey Ace, should Trump or DeSantis become Pres in 2024, what position in the Executive branch (or the White House, such as an advisor) are you going to offer yourself to fill?
I don't know about ace, but I would gladly serve either man in office (not in the Kamala sense!) if they were to ask (something media something I could do)
I would "take the heat" I guess too. what are you gonna do. we've all got our back against the wall now anyway.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (j9HX3)
I'll take press secretary. Yank every pass save those for OAN, march the bastards out at bayonet point and make it clear that if they so much as throw a shadow on the White House lawn, they will be shot. And no, I am not kidding. The MFM are the enemy of the people and need to be treated as such.
I don't know about ace, but I would gladly serve either man in office (not in the Kamala sense!) if they were to ask (something media something I could do)
I would "take the heat" I guess too. what are you gonna do. we've all got our back against the wall now anyway.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2021 01:51 PM (j9HX3)
I'll take press secretary. Yank every pass save those for OAN, march the bastards out at bayonet point and make it clear that if they so much as throw a shadow on the White House lawn, they will be shot. And no, I am not kidding. The MFM are the enemy of the people and need to be treated as such.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (2JVJo)
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223 Lots of new nics here today ,who all clearly knew all along that kavanaugh, Comey Barrett, Barr etc were shills for the Dems.
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (Ed8Zd)
I noticed that too. And they're all agreeing strongly with Ace.
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (Ed8Zd)
I noticed that too. And they're all agreeing strongly with Ace.
Posted by: Justsayin' at July 16, 2021 02:09 PM (Fs5vw)
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Right now we're just listening to that bell warning of a stall. Wait until we go into the tail spin.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 16, 2021 02:07 PM (wAnMi)
Will we fall off on the right wing or the left wing?
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 16, 2021 02:07 PM (wAnMi)
Will we fall off on the right wing or the left wing?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 16, 2021 02:09 PM (axyOa)
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Just going off top off my head:
Sessions,Barr,Milley,Mattis,Kelly, Spencer,Bolton,Tillerson,Wray, Omarosa, Scaramucci, Cohn, Barrett, Kavanaugh and
Korsuch.
Sessions,Barr,Milley,Mattis,Kelly, Spencer,Bolton,Tillerson,Wray, Omarosa, Scaramucci, Cohn, Barrett, Kavanaugh and
Korsuch.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 16, 2021 02:09 PM (2DOZq)
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With all his faults PDT is the best President I ever lived thru. G-D bless him
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (GPwVZ)
This also. Think where we would be without the 4 years of the Glorious Scalp Weasel.
He certainly pulled back the curtain like non before.
Posted by: Bosk at July 16, 2021 02:04 PM (FgPjD)
Speaking only for myself, I thought he had a lot more autonomy and support from his dogshit party in fighting the derp state. Wow was I wrong.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:01 PM (GPwVZ)
This also. Think where we would be without the 4 years of the Glorious Scalp Weasel.
He certainly pulled back the curtain like non before.
Posted by: Bosk at July 16, 2021 02:04 PM (FgPjD)
Speaking only for myself, I thought he had a lot more autonomy and support from his dogshit party in fighting the derp state. Wow was I wrong.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:09 PM (y7DUB)
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Has anyone run for President, lost, ran again 4 years later and won? And I dont mean ran in the primary, I mean was the party nominee. I cant think of anyone, maybe in the 19th century?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (SOBYU)
Grover Cleveland.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (SOBYU)
Grover Cleveland.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 16, 2021 02:09 PM (jOcSX)
365
To be clear, if Trump Is the candidate, I will vote for him. But both his chances and potential accomplishments will be guided by his own hand, an ability to keep his worst impulses down, and his ability to learn from the past.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 02:09 PM (bqcn9)
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Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (bqcn9)
Yeah, but the swamp corrupts. Anyone that wants a position of power in the swamp needs scrutiny.
Yeah, but the swamp corrupts. Anyone that wants a position of power in the swamp needs scrutiny.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 02:09 PM (Y5qcH)
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357 Has anyone run for President, lost, ran again 4 years later and won? And I dont mean ran in the primary, I mean was the party nominee. I cant think of anyone, maybe in the 19th century?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (SOBYU)
In precisely 4 years or just at a later date? Not including people who didn't make it to the general, Nixon comes to mind as having won at a later date. And coincidentally having been robbed the first time around.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (SOBYU)
In precisely 4 years or just at a later date? Not including people who didn't make it to the general, Nixon comes to mind as having won at a later date. And coincidentally having been robbed the first time around.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (z5Vrg)
368
"Ann Coulter says a lot of stuff, none of worth listening to. Typical GOPe grifter."
Her books are pretty hard hitting AND entertaining. Trump had a copy of Adios America ... it seemed to be a blueprint for his campaign and "stirring up the patriots" on immigration, key to his victory. Trump talked with Coulter some ... then dumped her.
Also dumped ... Bannon, and a few others that were key to his victory. Jarvanka got the corner office and a lot of influence ... Manhattan Liberals ftw? But yes, Trump was up against the whole of the DC mafia ... he largely exposed them ... still seems like he could have made better picks in many cases, but hard to say what threats he faced, besides the open ones.
Her books are pretty hard hitting AND entertaining. Trump had a copy of Adios America ... it seemed to be a blueprint for his campaign and "stirring up the patriots" on immigration, key to his victory. Trump talked with Coulter some ... then dumped her.
Also dumped ... Bannon, and a few others that were key to his victory. Jarvanka got the corner office and a lot of influence ... Manhattan Liberals ftw? But yes, Trump was up against the whole of the DC mafia ... he largely exposed them ... still seems like he could have made better picks in many cases, but hard to say what threats he faced, besides the open ones.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)
370
We will be having the SAME conversation about the failure of the DeSantis administration in a few years should he pull off a miracle and avoid having his election stolen.
They will treat him like he is Trump 2.0 and destroy anyone who isn't a saboteur in his administration.
And why not? Once DeSantis is banned from all social media and all other media refuses to even cover his speeches, who will know what's happening?
Since all his appointments will be "literally fascists" Congress will have no choice but to refuse to approve them.
This was NEVER about Trump. It's about making sure the normals are driven from society and never again have a say.
They will treat him like he is Trump 2.0 and destroy anyone who isn't a saboteur in his administration.
And why not? Once DeSantis is banned from all social media and all other media refuses to even cover his speeches, who will know what's happening?
Since all his appointments will be "literally fascists" Congress will have no choice but to refuse to approve them.
This was NEVER about Trump. It's about making sure the normals are driven from society and never again have a say.
Posted by: Just Lily. Thread-Winner Elect at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (p4mFt)
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. I don't recall anyone at the time saying Trump shouldn't select Amy Coney Barrett for SCOTUS
Actually 2 people here did say that. Of course they were basing it solely on the fact that she was Catholic. One of them is the dumb bitch that thinks the top girl's on the Chess thread are too sexually explicit to allow her husband or father come here.
Actually 2 people here did say that. Of course they were basing it solely on the fact that she was Catholic. One of them is the dumb bitch that thinks the top girl's on the Chess thread are too sexually explicit to allow her husband or father come here.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (vMCab)
372
stick a fork in me -I'M DONE
Posted by: USA at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (LilNs)
373
"You need the legislature for that. I'm starting to think this co-equal branch nonsense has actually convinced people that the legislature doesn't hold nearly all the formal power."
Or you conduct yourself like the left and ignore the legislation you don't like.
Or you conduct yourself like the left and ignore the legislation you don't like.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (qH6FZ)
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Ben Had, absolutely (about Sessions to DHS). The issue that brought him to Trump (for which he received enormous abuse and subtle and un-subtle pressure within the GOP). AG needs to be someone who's not just part of the legal cult - and that right there's a unicorn.
Someone who would take the absurd judicial reaction to Trump's first travel EO and make a test case out of it - repudiation.
Even Trump - though possibly through a reasonable deference to a system he'd lived in and not really studied his whole life - did not go the repudiation route. Which is the only practical step to begin to restore the constitutional order. Everyone, including 99% of "conservatives" and people who hang around here, simply cannot take that step. Though they infinite energy to whine about the consequences of not doing so.
Someone who would take the absurd judicial reaction to Trump's first travel EO and make a test case out of it - repudiation.
Even Trump - though possibly through a reasonable deference to a system he'd lived in and not really studied his whole life - did not go the repudiation route. Which is the only practical step to begin to restore the constitutional order. Everyone, including 99% of "conservatives" and people who hang around here, simply cannot take that step. Though they infinite energy to whine about the consequences of not doing so.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (OTzUX)
375
Milley needs to face court martial under the next Trump administration, or a DeSantis one.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (ptqGC)
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373 "You need the legislature for that. I'm starting to think this co-equal branch nonsense has actually convinced people that the legislature doesn't hold nearly all the formal power."
Or you conduct yourself like the left and ignore the legislation you don't like.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (qH6FZ)
That works really well when the bureaucracy does what you want. Too bad they're overwhelmingly left-wing.
Or you conduct yourself like the left and ignore the legislation you don't like.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (qH6FZ)
That works really well when the bureaucracy does what you want. Too bad they're overwhelmingly left-wing.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (z5Vrg)
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I just want to see or hear some evidence that he's learned bigly from his four years in the Swamp. --------------- He seems focused on improving our voting laws and endorsing candidates who will (at least in theory) be more supportive of him. That seems right to me. But ultimately, what needs to be done is to clean shop in the biggest firing in the history of the US. I'd fire everyone.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (sX1BW)
378
I have a great deal of personal warmth for Trump, but I think he lacks a certain type of political cunning. He wants to be a good guy, he wants to be a hero and we need a Darth Vader to get us out of this mess. I'd still vote for him if it comes to that, if only to make lefty's head explode.
Posted by: Max Power at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (Hucnr)
379
After the audits are complete the voting system changes for the better.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (jr2EU)
++++
Only if the laws and processes are followed. I don't see how new, better laws help. This wasn't legal in the first place, and they all violated the law with impunity and without consequence anyway. They'll just do it again if they don't think they're encumbered.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (jr2EU)
++++
Only if the laws and processes are followed. I don't see how new, better laws help. This wasn't legal in the first place, and they all violated the law with impunity and without consequence anyway. They'll just do it again if they don't think they're encumbered.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (3p5uk)
380
I don't recall anyone at the time saying Trump shouldn't select Amy Coney Barrett for SCOTUS
**
It's pretty incredible how a justice's understanding of the Constitution changes when the left doxes their children and threatens to burn down their home.
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It's pretty incredible how a justice's understanding of the Constitution changes when the left doxes their children and threatens to burn down their home.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (/BX3R)
381
I don't think PDT runs again.
Two reasons: Melania and Barron.
I think PDT makes it look like he's running again, in order to scare the establishment and draw their ire, in the hopes of clearing the field for someone else.
Just a thought.
Two reasons: Melania and Barron.
I think PDT makes it look like he's running again, in order to scare the establishment and draw their ire, in the hopes of clearing the field for someone else.
Just a thought.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (2SdPm)
382
LASue, It sure did sound like Weiss was ready to deliver the goods and then got scared off. Hell, the Supreme Court has been intimated, what a USAG compared to that?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (HHmsi)
383
Ahh right Cleveland. Thanks.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (SOBYU)
384
Who shit?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)
385
I think Trump is a package deal -- nearly flawless on the macro issues, but obviously flawed on the micro.
Probably similar to many of us ...
Probably similar to many of us ...
Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2021 02:12 PM (8/6aZ)
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Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (SOBYU)
Grover Cleveland.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 16, 2021 02:09 PM (jOcSX)
Not surprised he is completely oblivious to this fact.
Grover Cleveland.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 16, 2021 02:09 PM (jOcSX)
Not surprised he is completely oblivious to this fact.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 02:12 PM (vMCab)
387
When Paul Ryan told him his first budget was DOA, he should have known he was at war with the GOP.
That's the answer to, "but who was he supposed to hire?"
You get a list of the dirtiest, slimy, most corrupt scum that you can. You have a meeting subject to the Open Meetings Act.You stuff the list with those names.You force Mitch and Ryan to sign off on the record.
You get them all installed.
Then publicy burn them with, "these are who Mitchell and Paul wanted me to hire."
Trump should have read Machiavelli.
That's the answer to, "but who was he supposed to hire?"
You get a list of the dirtiest, slimy, most corrupt scum that you can. You have a meeting subject to the Open Meetings Act.You stuff the list with those names.You force Mitch and Ryan to sign off on the record.
You get them all installed.
Then publicy burn them with, "these are who Mitchell and Paul wanted me to hire."
Trump should have read Machiavelli.
Posted by: Mrm88 at July 16, 2021 02:12 PM (jIL4c)
388
"I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions."
Come on. In the transition of administrations, there are hundreds and hundreds of hirings and firings that need to take place in a very short span of time. One of Trump's best features is his instincts; another is his ability to adapt when things don't work out. The idea that Trump would make zero -- or dozens of -- hiring mistakes is beyond fantasy.
Come on. In the transition of administrations, there are hundreds and hundreds of hirings and firings that need to take place in a very short span of time. One of Trump's best features is his instincts; another is his ability to adapt when things don't work out. The idea that Trump would make zero -- or dozens of -- hiring mistakes is beyond fantasy.
Posted by: red speck at July 16, 2021 02:12 PM (gS3OW)
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Probably similar to many of us ...
Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2021 02:12 PM (8/6aZ)
Yep, micro penis.
Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2021 02:12 PM (8/6aZ)
Yep, micro penis.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 02:12 PM (Y5qcH)
390
Why do I feel like if Trump were to be re-elected in '24, he wouldn't have learned a damned thing?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh
That's a big if...
Why do I feel like if Trump were to be re-elected in '24, he wouldn't have learned a damned thing?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh
That's a big if...
Posted by: runner at July 16, 2021 02:13 PM (Q2cEs)
391
With Kav it was war and wanted to beat the left regardless of what Kav was or wasnt.
With ACB I remember a lot of people on the right - legit right - having some doubts.
With ACB I remember a lot of people on the right - legit right - having some doubts.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:13 PM (SOBYU)
392
PDT excelled on his money guys: Wilbur Ross, Lighthizer, Navarro, Mnuchin. That he failed miserably in areas he depended on others; sadly, that happens. How many folks have an ex-spouse or two? PDT still tried to do positive things for the middle class and working poor and that gets my gratitude.
Posted by: EveR at July 16, 2021 02:13 PM (9y70b)
393
Or stay committed, vote your ass off,
Translated: be a poll worker, advance to counting votes, and make sure you can hack a Dominon machine while running duplicate votes through the counter more times than the Communists.
Vote Fraud is the only crime where you are greatly rewarded for being very good at it.
Translated: be a poll worker, advance to counting votes, and make sure you can hack a Dominon machine while running duplicate votes through the counter more times than the Communists.
Vote Fraud is the only crime where you are greatly rewarded for being very good at it.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 16, 2021 02:13 PM (eRIsq)
394
378 I have a great deal of personal warmth for Trump, but I think he lacks a certain type of political cunning. He wants to be a good guy, he wants to be a hero and we need a Darth Vader to get us out of this mess. I'd still vote for him if it comes to that, if only to make lefty's head explode.
Posted by: Max Power at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (Hucnr)
We need a Napoleon and he is not Napoleon (I do mean including the details and not just as a style). I didn't really expect him to be one though.
Posted by: Max Power at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (Hucnr)
We need a Napoleon and he is not Napoleon (I do mean including the details and not just as a style). I didn't really expect him to be one though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 02:13 PM (z5Vrg)
395
This is why it has to be DeSantis in 2024 and not Trump. His personnel decisions were truly abysmal. The best we could hope is that maybe after 3 years he finally figured it out and got a few decent picks. But I'm not holding my breath or betting my country on that. DeSantis can carry the Trump mantle forward better than Trump himself, IMO. All it will take is a word from Trump after the midterms, and all of his support flocks to DeSantis. Then it will just be fun watching him disembowel the Cheney/Haley challenge on his way to storming to the nomination.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at July 16, 2021 02:13 PM (pT2Ef)
396
So when people say President Trump got elected because he was NOT a politician, and yet people say he was betrayed by many of his appointments because he was not a politician, it makes my head hurt. It's like they are trying to make me think that it's hopeless to even think about cleaning up the mess that Washington DC has become. Obviously, against huge odds, President Trump came closer than most men could have, but it's very disheartening.
Posted by: Chillin the most
That would be called "a lightbulb moment". Welcome to clarity.
Posted by: Chillin the most
That would be called "a lightbulb moment". Welcome to clarity.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (OCTRt)
397
In the transition of administrations, there are hundreds and hundreds of
hirings and firings that need to take place in a very short span of
time. ---------------- This is true. And this is what needs to change. What we need is millions of firings.
hirings and firings that need to take place in a very short span of
time. ---------------- This is true. And this is what needs to change. What we need is millions of firings.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (sX1BW)
398
>Posted by: Just Lily. Thread-Winner Elect at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (p4mFt)
Correct. The US Presidency has been revealed to be incredibly weak. The real power lies in the permanent bureaucracy. Change is not going to be effected via elections, whether they are legitimate or not.
Correct. The US Presidency has been revealed to be incredibly weak. The real power lies in the permanent bureaucracy. Change is not going to be effected via elections, whether they are legitimate or not.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (DXFDM)
399
Two lists I long to see:
1) the evidence that Trump was, in any way, "authoritarian"
2) the incidents where he was "self-defeating", leading to supporters pounding their heads on their desks
Both lists need to be extremely specific and concrete, of course. And in the second one, a clear alternative course of action laid out that was the obvious choice - at the time.
The second list faces a further burden. It needs to be shown that the clearly bone-headed moves (all, of course, magically a direct result of Trump's ego, or whatever) actually were material to the failure to get certain things done, i.e. that absent these eye-rolling mistakes, important policies would have been implemented - notwithstanding the opposition/occasional literal lawless subversion from literally every other party in the power equation.
1) the evidence that Trump was, in any way, "authoritarian"
2) the incidents where he was "self-defeating", leading to supporters pounding their heads on their desks
Both lists need to be extremely specific and concrete, of course. And in the second one, a clear alternative course of action laid out that was the obvious choice - at the time.
The second list faces a further burden. It needs to be shown that the clearly bone-headed moves (all, of course, magically a direct result of Trump's ego, or whatever) actually were material to the failure to get certain things done, i.e. that absent these eye-rolling mistakes, important policies would have been implemented - notwithstanding the opposition/occasional literal lawless subversion from literally every other party in the power equation.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (OTzUX)
400
But let's keep in mind that Trump himself - from his hijacking of a major party nomination, to being elected - was a nearly-impossible outlier come to life. So technically one cannot exclude that others may emerge.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:59 PM (OTzUX)
Heh heh. I love that you were able to sum up with your usual pinpoint language and logical thought my one own caveat about my statement. Let's just say I'm playing the odds.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 01:59 PM (OTzUX)
Heh heh. I love that you were able to sum up with your usual pinpoint language and logical thought my one own caveat about my statement. Let's just say I'm playing the odds.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (c3Hg2)
401
another point, with the terrible treatment, including investigations, that Trump people got, it may be that many he would have picked said "No Thanks". idk, but that was certainly part of the DeepState warfare against Trump.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (Cus5s)
402
That's it. Ya'll have trolled me into it. I'm voting for Chelsea. Or The Mooch.
Posted by: klaftern at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (r4sI4)
403
Sundowner is going to be the most criminal president in the history of the USA
Posted by: Skip
And Trump, believe it or not, was probably the cleanest. At least in my lifetime. I'm sure that claim would get a lot of OMG LOLs from the Twitter Left, as is their reflexive, uncontrollable wont.
Posted by: Skip
And Trump, believe it or not, was probably the cleanest. At least in my lifetime. I'm sure that claim would get a lot of OMG LOLs from the Twitter Left, as is their reflexive, uncontrollable wont.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (OssQ4)
404
I just had my second vaccination. I feel o
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (oH5R6)
405
Well, the off year elections should be interesting.
We'll find out in a hurry if anything has changed when it comes to voting.
Best guess: No.
We'll find out in a hurry if anything has changed when it comes to voting.
Best guess: No.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 02:15 PM (2SdPm)
406
397 In the transition of administrations, there are hundreds and hundreds of
hirings and firings that need to take place in a very short span of
time. ---------------- This is true. And this is what needs to change. What we need is millions of firings.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (sX1BW)
Most of the time, ppl just resign when a new admin comes in. A surprising number of ppl tried to hang around with Trump.
hirings and firings that need to take place in a very short span of
time. ---------------- This is true. And this is what needs to change. What we need is millions of firings.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (sX1BW)
Most of the time, ppl just resign when a new admin comes in. A surprising number of ppl tried to hang around with Trump.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2021 02:15 PM (Y5qcH)
407
>the dumb bitch that thinks the top girl's on the Chess thread are too sexually explicit to allow her husband or father come here.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (vMCab)
Imagine being married to that...
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (vMCab)
Imagine being married to that...
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 02:15 PM (DXFDM)
408
I do wonder where we will find this mythical electable republican who will fight the Leftist evil on all fronts. I can guarantee you DeSantis would also disappoint, he is a politician after all. I say this as if elections mean anything anymore.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 16, 2021 02:15 PM (r+sAi)
409
The real power lies in the permanent bureaucracy. ------------------- Sad but true. Fire them all.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 16, 2021 02:15 PM (sX1BW)
410
Trump has served his purpose. It's up to us now.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: No Blood for Congress! at July 16, 2021 02:15 PM (OUMaO)
411
Honestly, if you want DeSantis to be effective I think you need another four years of Trump first. It will force the establishment to burn out what remains of its political, social, and cultural capital going after him. Additionally, the Right is changing, and there are a lot of young firebrands who are starting to build names for themselves based on what Trump has been doing, but much like The Squad versus the Old Guard on the Left, gaining power takes time.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (jOcSX)
412
I just had my second vaccination. I feel o
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (oH5R6)
Uh.......You still there? Do we need to call 911?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 16, 2021 02:14 PM (oH5R6)
Uh.......You still there? Do we need to call 911?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)
413
"Only if the laws and processes are followed. I don't see how new, better laws help. This wasn't legal in the first place, and they all violated the law with impunity and without consequence anyway. They'll just do it again if they don't think they're encumbered.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (3p5uk)"
Having laws on the books and having awareness are two different things. Moving legislatively to correct these things, uncovering the schemes and hopefully hanging a few scalps is a good way to fight back. I remain optimistic that some of these things reduce the opportunity for fraud. I remain skeptical that people in leadership will be proactive in enforcing them, and more importantly focused on the agenda, which is what really makes the difference in voting.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (3p5uk)"
Having laws on the books and having awareness are two different things. Moving legislatively to correct these things, uncovering the schemes and hopefully hanging a few scalps is a good way to fight back. I remain optimistic that some of these things reduce the opportunity for fraud. I remain skeptical that people in leadership will be proactive in enforcing them, and more importantly focused on the agenda, which is what really makes the difference in voting.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (bqcn9)
414
yes,trump technically makes these appointments but in truth,it`s the g.o.pe who makes these recommendations and decisions...he`s a neophyte politician and doesn`t know these traitors from adam...this is the price you pay when there are only two political parties(both hate you) and you`re in the way of grift on both sides of the aisle...
Posted by: uncouth jay marks at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (GT8Ln)
415
next year, the GOP will win the house back and they will be all lathered up over tax cuts
Biden impeachment hearings, nope
Biden impeachment hearings, nope
Posted by: REDACTED at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (Rs1Q4)
416
Trump hired Reince. That was big mistake number 1.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (gpKIi)
417
109 Could Trump have know that Weiss was a shitweasel at the time of the appointment?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (ZrEFc)
Absolutely not. Sessions asked his predecessor, Charles M. Oberly III, to resign in Mar 2017. He left in Dec 2017, and Weiss replaced him in Feb 2018. There is no way that Trump could have known what Weiss was up to. Weiss probably didn't, until 2019-2020.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 16, 2021 01:35 PM (ZrEFc)
Absolutely not. Sessions asked his predecessor, Charles M. Oberly III, to resign in Mar 2017. He left in Dec 2017, and Weiss replaced him in Feb 2018. There is no way that Trump could have known what Weiss was up to. Weiss probably didn't, until 2019-2020.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (mdjgu)
418
Why do I feel like if Trump were to be re-elected in '24, he wouldn't have learned a damned thing?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh
That's a big if...
Wrong target. Trump is re-elected in '24, We The People have learned a lot of things. And we damned well better leverage that knowledge into conquering our enemies.
After all, the Communists through their puppet-leader has declared this: D-Day, Civil War, 9/11 and the Revolutionary War.
They are already on a Total War footing.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh
That's a big if...
Wrong target. Trump is re-elected in '24, We The People have learned a lot of things. And we damned well better leverage that knowledge into conquering our enemies.
After all, the Communists through their puppet-leader has declared this: D-Day, Civil War, 9/11 and the Revolutionary War.
They are already on a Total War footing.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (eRIsq)
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Also dumped ... Bannon, and a few others that were key to his victory. Jarvanka got the corner office and a lot of influence ... Manhattan Liberals ftw? But yes, Trump was up against the whole of the DC mafia ... he largely exposed them ... still seems like he could have made better picks in many cases, but hard to say what threats he faced, besides the open ones.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (Cus5s)
Bannon was an odd case: strategically very smart but has the grooming habits of a homeless slob which drove a neat freak executive like DJT up the wall. And Trump stopped listening to him.
Show some love of country, Bannon, and get a fucking haircut and dress professionally.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (Cus5s)
Bannon was an odd case: strategically very smart but has the grooming habits of a homeless slob which drove a neat freak executive like DJT up the wall. And Trump stopped listening to him.
Show some love of country, Bannon, and get a fucking haircut and dress professionally.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (y7DUB)
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This is actually how the presidency in Iran works. The Supreme Leader has to approve candidates.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
Also how it works in the US when you have to get your picks confirmed.
Funny how that is.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
Also how it works in the US when you have to get your picks confirmed.
Funny how that is.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (OCTRt)
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Let's hear it for armchair quarterbacks!!!!
824,534,356 and 0 baby!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)
This!
824,534,356 and 0 baby!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)
This!
Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (Ed8Zd)
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333 Trump met with McCarthy????
So confirmed then: he has learned nothing about the GOPe.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:05 PM (SOBYU)
He also met with Kim Jong-un. I think Trump wants to invite/persuade people to come over to the light.
So confirmed then: he has learned nothing about the GOPe.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:05 PM (SOBYU)
He also met with Kim Jong-un. I think Trump wants to invite/persuade people to come over to the light.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (Hrwnm)
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>Only if the laws and processes are followed. I don't see how new, better laws help. This wasn't legal in the first place, and they all violated the law with impunity and without consequence anyway. They'll just do it again if they don't think they're encumbered.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (3p5uk)
They'll follow the law as much as PA elections did, even after being "scolded" by Alito. I'm sure new laws will be super-effective.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (3p5uk)
They'll follow the law as much as PA elections did, even after being "scolded" by Alito. I'm sure new laws will be super-effective.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 16, 2021 02:17 PM (DXFDM)
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Only if the laws and processes are followed. I don't see how new, better laws help. This wasn't legal in the first place, and they all violated the law with impunity and without consequence anyway. They'll just do it again if they don't think they're encumbered.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (3p5uk)
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Exactly, and why nothing will change until people start swinging for treason -- and thereby provide a strong disincentive to such future behavior.
Like rhomboid is fond of saying: we have become a fundamentally unserious country.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (3p5uk)
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Exactly, and why nothing will change until people start swinging for treason -- and thereby provide a strong disincentive to such future behavior.
Like rhomboid is fond of saying: we have become a fundamentally unserious country.
Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2021 02:17 PM (8/6aZ)
425
He's still the best fucking thing to happen to the White House in a generation or two.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)
Trump at his worst is still better than anyone else.
If I wanted a perfect candidate, I'd run.
And if he is cheated again again, all bets will be off.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)
Trump at his worst is still better than anyone else.
If I wanted a perfect candidate, I'd run.
And if he is cheated again again, all bets will be off.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 16, 2021 02:17 PM (axyOa)
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It's like they are trying to make me think that it's hopeless to even think about cleaning up the mess that Washington DC has become
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Remember when the military laughed and joked about not withdrawing troops like Trump has ordered? Or when the federal government / capitol police / Pelosi didn't inform Trump of the potential trouble coming on the 6th and simulatneously refused to do anything to stop it (and outright aided it, frankly)? Or when Pence called in the National Guard and danced with Pelosi after they'd ousted Trump?
There's no reason to believe Trump didn't try to invoke the Insurrection Act to take care of the riots happening around the nation and the same government / military told him "Nah, bruh, we all good."
So yeah, you're probably on the right track.
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Remember when the military laughed and joked about not withdrawing troops like Trump has ordered? Or when the federal government / capitol police / Pelosi didn't inform Trump of the potential trouble coming on the 6th and simulatneously refused to do anything to stop it (and outright aided it, frankly)? Or when Pence called in the National Guard and danced with Pelosi after they'd ousted Trump?
There's no reason to believe Trump didn't try to invoke the Insurrection Act to take care of the riots happening around the nation and the same government / military told him "Nah, bruh, we all good."
So yeah, you're probably on the right track.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when the Statue of Liberty used to be on Ellis Island? at July 16, 2021 02:17 PM (/BX3R)
427
The plugs caught fire but the steel plate in his head won't burn.
Posted by: wth at July 16, 2021 02:17 PM (v0R5T)
428
Big ass Butt!.....I'll still vote for Trump over any establishment candidate on either side of the festering miasma.
Posted by: Your Eminence at July 16, 2021 02:17 PM (QK70D)
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Trump is always 100% on the side of anyone who will say a nice thing about him. That's all it takes. That's always been the case, since well before his political career. The Democrats could roll Trump anytime they wanted if they had just been smart enough to flatter him. Instead they aren't smart enough, or were too consumed with hatred, to go that route. But it was always there for them, and always will be. I promise, if Jeb Bush so much as winks at Trump, he would happily make him a Cabinet Secretary in his next administration.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at July 16, 2021 02:18 PM (pT2Ef)
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The Jar in JarVanka actually turns out to be pretty good.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 16, 2021 02:18 PM (SOBYU)
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We all hoped Trump would clean out the swamp. The problem was and is that the swamp is so huge and all encompassing that, at this point, NO ONE can clean it out. It's a megalithic cancer that just keeps spreading. These people are embedded so deep and in every state that nothing will end it.
Depressing as fuck.
Depressing as fuck.
Posted by: Tami at July 16, 2021 02:18 PM (cF8AT)
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It's like they are trying to make me think that it's hopeless to even think about cleaning up the mess that Washington DC has become.
I think the descriptive terms for cleaning up Washington DC must use words like "megatons" and "carpet-bomb"
I think the descriptive terms for cleaning up Washington DC must use words like "megatons" and "carpet-bomb"
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (eRIsq)
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Any investigation into the most corrupt crime cartel in the history of Presidential politics was "averting the possibility that the investigation would become a months-long campaign issue???" In other words, denying voters legitimate information about the character and behavior of the people selected by the Elites to exercise almost unlimited power over them. Yeah. that's a fair cop.
Posted by: No Longer Amused at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (M9SBl)
434
New thread of Quick Hits...
Posted by: gdgm+ at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (HyPy9)
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I may be in the minority here, but DJT made more truly conservative moves than any President that I can remember in modern times. He was in a deep swamp full of sharks. Many with golden promises made and DJT took them at their work and then got shanked.
There are people doing more time for shoplifting at Walmart than Hunter Biden or his father will ever see.
There are people doing more time for shoplifting at Walmart than Hunter Biden or his father will ever see.
Posted by: Cheri at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (oiNtH)
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"Only if the laws and processes are followed. I don't see how new, better laws help. This wasn't legal in the first place, and they all violated the law with impunity and without consequence anyway. They'll just do it again if they don't think they're encumbered.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
LOL. I give you an Article V Convention. LOL
Posted by: Joe Mannix
LOL. I give you an Article V Convention. LOL
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (OCTRt)
437
Robert Barnes said during Barrett's appointment process that he was not a fan. Can't remember the reason, just that she was not a solid candidate. Robert Barnes is one of the lawyers representing Kyle Rittenhouse, IIRC. I think he is also the lawyer representing the victim in Don Lemon's harassment case.
Posted by: fly gal at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (JGX9O)
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"PDT excelled on his money guys: Wilbur Ross, Lighthizer, Navarro, Mnuchin."
imo they were making major headway on the China problem, with Pompeo pretty clear minded. That was part of why China/Biden had to steal it.
imo they were making major headway on the China problem, with Pompeo pretty clear minded. That was part of why China/Biden had to steal it.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (Cus5s)
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He also met with Kim Jong-un. I think Trump wants to invite/persuade people to come over to the light.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (Hrwnm)
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IF that's true, then he is very naive about the dark side.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (Hrwnm)
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IF that's true, then he is very naive about the dark side.
Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (8/6aZ)
440
Trump has served his purpose. It's up to us now.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: No Blood for Congress! at July 16, 2021 02:15 PM (OUMaO)
Ultimately it comes down to this.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: No Blood for Congress! at July 16, 2021 02:15 PM (OUMaO)
Ultimately it comes down to this.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (y7DUB)
441
Love the flaming skull plugs.
Posted by: wth at July 16, 2021 02:20 PM (v0R5T)
442
In the 2016 primaries, Trump was asked how he would deal with hostile foreign leaders and he described his life as a real estate guy sitting across the table from hard-nosed, tough guy union bosses and construction bosses and the like, and more or less said if a deal was possible then he could make it happen. If there was a shared goal he would find it, a weakness and he would exploit it. If a deal could be made, it can be made, and he would make it.
You can probably see the problem here, especially in retrospect. These people are the modern equivalent of Vladimir Lenin, and Vladimir Lenin doesn't make fucking deals.
You can probably see the problem here, especially in retrospect. These people are the modern equivalent of Vladimir Lenin, and Vladimir Lenin doesn't make fucking deals.
Posted by: troyriser at July 16, 2021 02:20 PM (pYLCQ)
443
Trump is his own worse critic. Every time one of these bad picks quit Trump immediately says they were incompetent lightweights. Why the fuck did you pick them then?
Posted by: Just a side note at July 16, 2021 02:20 PM (2DOZq)
444
Uh.......You still there? Do we need to call 911?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)
Looks like the troll socking.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)
Looks like the troll socking.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 02:20 PM (Hrwnm)
445
When I read Trump's statement about Milley; I came to the same conclusion as Ace. The statement said Mattis was overhyped, and while I agree, Trump was part of that hype. Trump appointed Milley and then kept him in office when he felt Milley betrayed him. Why? We now know for certain AG Barr blocked the DOJ from investigating the election; the second of two AG's that hurt Trump's Presidency.
I get at some point, Trump is in the DC swamp trying to find someone or something to support him. Instead, he finds Aesops scorpions that promise no harm only to stab him in the back at a critical moment. Indeed, the voters get the same. But if Trump is to beat out De Santis in 2024; then I'll he will need to name his team and convince me that they'll hold firm for what needs to be done. Otherwise, I'm open to the candidate that's ready to clean house.
I get at some point, Trump is in the DC swamp trying to find someone or something to support him. Instead, he finds Aesops scorpions that promise no harm only to stab him in the back at a critical moment. Indeed, the voters get the same. But if Trump is to beat out De Santis in 2024; then I'll he will need to name his team and convince me that they'll hold firm for what needs to be done. Otherwise, I'm open to the candidate that's ready to clean house.
Posted by: Leland at July 16, 2021 02:20 PM (IG4sd)
446
444 I mean the troll socking Northernlurker.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 02:20 PM (Hrwnm)
447
420 This is actually how the presidency in Iran works. The Supreme Leader has to approve candidates.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
Also how it works in the US when you have to get your picks confirmed.
Funny how that is.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (OCTRt)
Well the Supreme Leader holds power in Iran, and the legislature is supposed to hold power here.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
Also how it works in the US when you have to get your picks confirmed.
Funny how that is.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (OCTRt)
Well the Supreme Leader holds power in Iran, and the legislature is supposed to hold power here.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 16, 2021 02:20 PM (z5Vrg)
448
I said after Trump got elected in 2016, but before he was inaugurated that he needs to fire most of the executive branch and then purge the officer corp of the military of leftists, etc.
Then I saw that he was trying to work with these people. I just shook my head and said he is a lamb amongst wolves.
At this point, I know DeSantis is not likely to challenge Trump in the primary in 2023, but Trump has to get his act together. I'm going to assume he is not capable of good HR decisions. He does not have a clue that these people will assassinate him if they have to.
He just does not have the balls to do what needs to be done to stop the Deep State cold and defund/fire it.
I said after Trump got elected in 2016, but before he was inaugurated that he needs to fire most of the executive branch and then purge the officer corp of the military of leftists, etc.
Then I saw that he was trying to work with these people. I just shook my head and said he is a lamb amongst wolves.
At this point, I know DeSantis is not likely to challenge Trump in the primary in 2023, but Trump has to get his act together. I'm going to assume he is not capable of good HR decisions. He does not have a clue that these people will assassinate him if they have to.
He just does not have the balls to do what needs to be done to stop the Deep State cold and defund/fire it.
Posted by: Sapwolf at July 16, 2021 02:21 PM (S4A66)
449
I'll take press secretary. Yank every pass save those for OAN, march the bastards out at bayonet point and make it clear that if they so much as throw a shadow on the White House lawn, they will be shot. And no, I am not kidding. The MFM are the enemy of the people and need to be treated as such.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (2JVJo)
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I think this must be what Buckley meant when he said the government would be better served by random people chosen from the phone book. Last night a tv personality ( on newsmax) said he felt a big mistake after 9-11 was waiting so long to retaliate. I was stunned because only on here had I ever heard anybody say that! You would make an EXCELLENT press secretary!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2021 02:08 PM (2JVJo)
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I think this must be what Buckley meant when he said the government would be better served by random people chosen from the phone book. Last night a tv personality ( on newsmax) said he felt a big mistake after 9-11 was waiting so long to retaliate. I was stunned because only on here had I ever heard anybody say that! You would make an EXCELLENT press secretary!
Posted by: Chillin the most at July 16, 2021 02:21 PM (lonOK)
450
Yeah, Bannon cracks me up. Whatever his merits, dressing up for that guy would consist of looking as good as Matt Foley ("In van, down by the river!").
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 16, 2021 02:21 PM (QU5/8)
Posted by: Just a side note at July 16, 2021 02:22 PM (2DOZq)
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There are people doing more time for shoplifting at Walmart than Hunter Biden or his father will ever see.
Posted by: Cheri at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (oiNtH)
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... or for attending a peaceful protest in Washington DC.
Posted by: Cheri at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (oiNtH)
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... or for attending a peaceful protest in Washington DC.
Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2021 02:22 PM (8/6aZ)
453
You need the legislature for that. I'm starting to think this co-equal branch nonsense has actually convinced people that the legislature doesn't hold nearly all the formal power
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FWIW, I had the opportunity to meet Justice Scalia once. He commented that Congress by far is the most powerful branch of government, but is rarely unified and because it never gets its shit together, government ends up being delegated to the administrative agencies.
He's both right and wrong. Congress has its shit together when it comes to jettisoning responsibility. But Congressional power brokers have their tendrils wrapped around Washington in a way that does constrain the executive.
We just don't like the results that come from that corrupt swamp. They love the results.
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FWIW, I had the opportunity to meet Justice Scalia once. He commented that Congress by far is the most powerful branch of government, but is rarely unified and because it never gets its shit together, government ends up being delegated to the administrative agencies.
He's both right and wrong. Congress has its shit together when it comes to jettisoning responsibility. But Congressional power brokers have their tendrils wrapped around Washington in a way that does constrain the executive.
We just don't like the results that come from that corrupt swamp. They love the results.
Posted by: Revenant at July 16, 2021 02:22 PM (s3j76)
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Just Lily makes a key point for those engaging in magical wish-casting about Heavy D (or anyone else).
Remember Trump was opposed, undermined, back-stabbed, literally subjected to a soft coup attempt - BEFORE he'd actually really done anything.
His inauguration speech was amazing, in many respects.
He was lawlessly and infamously slandered, opposed, undermined, and plotted against because he was clearly serious about doing things differently. Heavy D or anyone else could choose to wrap their truly epochal intentions for change in the typical brain-dead stale rhetoric of the Beltway, but if they really tried to do anything close to what Trump did (outside the few areas where a president is hard to sabotage), he'd get the same reaction - including from the elected GOP, unless it is completely transformed in the next election.
Remember Trump was opposed, undermined, back-stabbed, literally subjected to a soft coup attempt - BEFORE he'd actually really done anything.
His inauguration speech was amazing, in many respects.
He was lawlessly and infamously slandered, opposed, undermined, and plotted against because he was clearly serious about doing things differently. Heavy D or anyone else could choose to wrap their truly epochal intentions for change in the typical brain-dead stale rhetoric of the Beltway, but if they really tried to do anything close to what Trump did (outside the few areas where a president is hard to sabotage), he'd get the same reaction - including from the elected GOP, unless it is completely transformed in the next election.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 02:22 PM (OTzUX)
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Trump gets to decide whether he gets the nomination in 2024. No legitimate contender will mount a challenge to him. Cheney/Haley/Romney maybe but nobody who could actually win. DeSantis will not enter unless Trump decides to stay out, IMO.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at July 16, 2021 02:23 PM (pT2Ef)
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396 So when people say President Trump got elected because he was NOT a politician, and yet people say he was betrayed by many of his appointments because he was not a politician, it makes my head hurt. It's like they are trying to make me think that it's hopeless to even think about cleaning up the mess that Washington DC has become. Obviously, against huge odds, President Trump came closer than most men could have, but it's very disheartening.
Posted by: Chillin the most
Why do you think so many people are talking about secession?
Posted by: Chillin the most
Why do you think so many people are talking about secession?
Posted by: Justsayin' at July 16, 2021 02:23 PM (Fs5vw)
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443 Trump is his own worse critic. Every time one of these bad picks quit Trump immediately says they were incompetent lightweights. Why the fuck did you pick them then?
Posted by: Just a side note at July 16, 2021 02:20 PM (2DOZq)
No. Trump was actually very cordial and complimentary towards them when they left the administration. Its when they started talking shit to get sucked up to by the media that he called them out as worthless.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 16, 2021 02:20 PM (2DOZq)
No. Trump was actually very cordial and complimentary towards them when they left the administration. Its when they started talking shit to get sucked up to by the media that he called them out as worthless.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2021 02:24 PM (vMCab)
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When the judges are hopelessly evil, what point in attorneys? It's a weird hill to die on: it's not just that there are an insane number of grotesquely corrupt bastards serving a cabal of Satanic pedophiles. It's that all avenues for peacefully removing them are being systematically denied. The Trump movement WON the fixed election, and the deep state (including the SC) basically overrode it through unconcealed fraud.
Fine with me. The Founders had a much weaker hand against far more competent adversaries. Bring it.
Fine with me. The Founders had a much weaker hand against far more competent adversaries. Bring it.
Posted by: trev006 at July 16, 2021 02:26 PM (6aggG)
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They said Don Jr was super corrupt, RUSSIAN and all that bullshit.
And there is Hunter, literally doing what they accused Don Jr of doing, and worse, and kicking up 10% to the future drooling pres.
That's perfect.
They said Don Jr was super corrupt, RUSSIAN and all that bullshit.
And there is Hunter, literally doing what they accused Don Jr of doing, and worse, and kicking up 10% to the future drooling pres.
That's perfect.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 16, 2021 02:26 PM (NuVOb)
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Robert Barnes is just like most popular media people on the right now. They make 50 million contradictory predictions and statements so they can go back later and point out how they were correct. Scott Adams, Mike Cernovich, Jack Posabic, etc., etc. They all do the same thing.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 16, 2021 02:26 PM (qH6FZ)
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Robert Barnes said during Barrett's appointment process that he was not a fan. Can't remember the reason, just that she was not a solid candidate. Robert Barnes is one of the lawyers representing Kyle Rittenhouse, IIRC. I think he is also the lawyer representing the victim in Don Lemon's harassment case.
Posted by: fly gal at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (JGX9O)
Barnes has a lot of irons in the fire. On Rittenhouse the work he's doing is public opinion, not courtroom work. I started paying attention to him after November when I got blindsided by shysters like Brian Cates and other worthless liars. He's yet to steer me wrong and his instincts are close to 20/20.
Posted by: fly gal at July 16, 2021 02:19 PM (JGX9O)
Barnes has a lot of irons in the fire. On Rittenhouse the work he's doing is public opinion, not courtroom work. I started paying attention to him after November when I got blindsided by shysters like Brian Cates and other worthless liars. He's yet to steer me wrong and his instincts are close to 20/20.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:26 PM (y7DUB)
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"Show some love of country, Bannon, and get a fucking haircut and dress professionally." Posted by: Captain Hate
yeah, idk what the deal was. His "War Room" thing seems pretty good (hope it is not just about his ego). They made a big deal when he got a haircut the other day. He has the resume to be a strong "influencer" and strategist ... the slovenly look in the WH was kinda strange. ...
yeah, idk what the deal was. His "War Room" thing seems pretty good (hope it is not just about his ego). They made a big deal when he got a haircut the other day. He has the resume to be a strong "influencer" and strategist ... the slovenly look in the WH was kinda strange. ...
Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2021 02:27 PM (Cus5s)
463
I think when we imagine what we would have done better in Trump's situation, we wildly overestimate how much power and control we would have in Trump's situation.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 02:27 PM (Hrwnm)
464
I don't think PDT runs again.
Two reasons: Melania and Barron.
I think PDT makes it look like he's running again, in order to scare the establishment and draw their ire, in the hopes of clearing the field for someone else.
Just a thought.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (2SdPm)
I would tend to agree. And also because while he still threatening to run, he is better positioned to play the King maker
Two reasons: Melania and Barron.
I think PDT makes it look like he's running again, in order to scare the establishment and draw their ire, in the hopes of clearing the field for someone else.
Just a thought.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 16, 2021 02:11 PM (2SdPm)
I would tend to agree. And also because while he still threatening to run, he is better positioned to play the King maker
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:28 PM (GPwVZ)
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I'd pull the lever for PDTS again. That guy did more to make America great again than anyone in my lifetime, Regan included. And, he did it while his own party tried to fuck him every step of the way.
Did he make some 'bad' choices and do some 'stupid things'? Absolutely, especially in the view of 20/20 hindsight.
YMMV
Did he make some 'bad' choices and do some 'stupid things'? Absolutely, especially in the view of 20/20 hindsight.
YMMV
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 16, 2021 02:29 PM (TAyES)
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The Swamp figured out real quick Trump's tweets were toothless.
I don't think Trump ever figured it out.
I think he really believed headlines meant he was making headway.
He did get a few swampy GOP kneecapped.
But what glory is there in sacrificing pawns on your team to the enemy?
"Oh no! You tricked us into doing what we would have done eventually!"
I don't think Trump ever figured it out.
I think he really believed headlines meant he was making headway.
He did get a few swampy GOP kneecapped.
But what glory is there in sacrificing pawns on your team to the enemy?
"Oh no! You tricked us into doing what we would have done eventually!"
Posted by: Mrm88 at July 16, 2021 02:29 PM (jIL4c)
467
he'd get the same reaction - including from the elected GOP, unless it is completely transformed in the next election.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 02:22 PM (OTzUX)
Mmhmm. If DeSantis wants to impress me, at least throw some feds in jail. Otherwise why should I believe he'd do better than Trump? Even W had a decent staff in Texas, but look what happened next.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 16, 2021 02:22 PM (OTzUX)
Mmhmm. If DeSantis wants to impress me, at least throw some feds in jail. Otherwise why should I believe he'd do better than Trump? Even W had a decent staff in Texas, but look what happened next.
Posted by: trev006 at July 16, 2021 02:30 PM (6aggG)
468
next year, the GOP will win the house back and they will be all lathered up over tax cuts
Biden impeachment hearings, nope
Posted by: REDACTED at J
Nazi tried em peach 3 times. And these clowns...,
Biden impeachment hearings, nope
Posted by: REDACTED at J
Nazi tried em peach 3 times. And these clowns...,
Posted by: runner at July 16, 2021 02:31 PM (Q2cEs)
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I understand why you typed what you did about Trump. But name the other person in 2016 who would have performed better. On economic issues he staffed a terrific team who accomplished specific goals. (Now undone by the Junta, of course.)
And he resisted the establishments kounts better that anybody else I can imagine. Plus, he paved the way for some real ball busting upstarts in the party. The chicks from Colorado and Georgia spring to mind. And DeSantis in Florida.
it's fine to criticize Trump. But I fear you are dangerously close to throwing the baby out with the bathwater on this one.
Food for thought.
And he resisted the establishments kounts better that anybody else I can imagine. Plus, he paved the way for some real ball busting upstarts in the party. The chicks from Colorado and Georgia spring to mind. And DeSantis in Florida.
it's fine to criticize Trump. But I fear you are dangerously close to throwing the baby out with the bathwater on this one.
Food for thought.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at July 16, 2021 02:31 PM (UNQS9)
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"Trump sure has great instincts when it comes to personnel.I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions. How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?"
He was an outsider and had to rely on what was available to guide hiring decisions. Did he know when he appointed this guy that he'd be actively suppressing prosecution of the Democrat nominee's kid's treasonous and corrupt activities? No. Was "Delaware AG" a key personnel position? No. It's just that anyone even vaguely attracted to power is going to trend deep state, or at least be highly persuadable. This isn't Trump's fault. It' s the nature of the beast. It's going to be a long road back from this.
"Trump sure has great instincts when it comes to personnel.I can't take the excuses any longer. At some point, Trump has to be responsible for Trump's own decisions. How long are we going to go on making excuse after excuse for him?"
He was an outsider and had to rely on what was available to guide hiring decisions. Did he know when he appointed this guy that he'd be actively suppressing prosecution of the Democrat nominee's kid's treasonous and corrupt activities? No. Was "Delaware AG" a key personnel position? No. It's just that anyone even vaguely attracted to power is going to trend deep state, or at least be highly persuadable. This isn't Trump's fault. It' s the nature of the beast. It's going to be a long road back from this.
Posted by: AMartel at July 16, 2021 02:32 PM (WWgnZ)
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" Scott Adams, Mike Cernovich, Jack Posabic, etc., etc. They all do the same thing."
they see a niche market, want their piece. Hard to know which are really "down for the struggle" ... the real fight, not just the part where they scoop up subscribers hungry for someone to fight back.
I try not to trash any that are "pushing back" against the junta, unless it becomes clear they are just trying to collect a paycheck by being pretenders. Lots of those around, and many still too tied to the system (but that is more the NeverTrump crowd I guess)
they see a niche market, want their piece. Hard to know which are really "down for the struggle" ... the real fight, not just the part where they scoop up subscribers hungry for someone to fight back.
I try not to trash any that are "pushing back" against the junta, unless it becomes clear they are just trying to collect a paycheck by being pretenders. Lots of those around, and many still too tied to the system (but that is more the NeverTrump crowd I guess)
Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2021 02:33 PM (Cus5s)
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Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 16, 2021 02:16 PM (y7DUB)
Lol yes. Bannon is money though.
Lol yes. Bannon is money though.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 16, 2021 02:33 PM (jr2EU)
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Even though I disagree with some of the perceptions about Trump expressed here, I certainly understand the frustration. We've got to come up with an effective way to keep the country from sliding off the cliff. The sliding seems to be continuing no matter what we try. We long for something that will save America.
Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2021 02:34 PM (Hrwnm)
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"Biden impeachment hearings, nope"
we have (apparently) massive evidence of Biden actually doing much worse than those crazy accusations against Trump/Russia ... yet the Junta hears nary a whimper about "impeachment".
we have (apparently) massive evidence of Biden actually doing much worse than those crazy accusations against Trump/Russia ... yet the Junta hears nary a whimper about "impeachment".
Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2021 02:37 PM (Cus5s)
475
Consider the following: 1) No nominee for any politically significant position who was legitimately on Trump's side or presented a risk to the Uniparty was going to get through the Senate, period. Neither Schumer nor McConnell would allow it. 2.) Hindsight is 20/20 given what we know about Hunter Biden now, but ordinarily US Attorney for the District of Delaware is about as politically significant a position as Ambassador to Timor-Leste.
Posted by: chris at July 16, 2021 02:39 PM (4RmKA)
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I'm also 100% done with these posers. They don't call them the uniparty for nothing.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at July 16, 2021 02:39 PM (hlxe7)
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27 I agree, Ace. I don't even watch his speeches or read anything he says any more. Sad but true.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (OssQ4)
Same here. Same old thing - a big nothing burger at our expense. And all the sheep that believe he is still in charge - does not bode well for our nation.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2021 01:27 PM (OssQ4)
Same here. Same old thing - a big nothing burger at our expense. And all the sheep that believe he is still in charge - does not bode well for our nation.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at July 16, 2021 02:42 PM (hlxe7)
478
Remember, RBG's replacement had to be a woman. Name a better woman who could have survived confirmation than ACB.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 16, 2021 02:42 PM (g4YTo)
479
I would tend to agree. And also because while he still threatening to run, he is better positioned to play the King maker
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:28 PM (GPwVZ)
My wife said the same thing the other day. She's more savvy than me on politics, only because I get way to invested in this stuff - but she told me something that rings true...no wife would want to go through what Melania did again and she has also has son to look after. I don't think Trump runs, he endorses DeSantis and campaigns for him.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2021 02:28 PM (GPwVZ)
My wife said the same thing the other day. She's more savvy than me on politics, only because I get way to invested in this stuff - but she told me something that rings true...no wife would want to go through what Melania did again and she has also has son to look after. I don't think Trump runs, he endorses DeSantis and campaigns for him.
Posted by: Boswell at July 16, 2021 02:45 PM (5iUNf)
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I agree with Ace because he's smart, not dumb like people say... and he deserves respect.
We all should rescind our support for him and shift it to one of the other conservative leaders with 75 million supporters. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Fucking Trump wasn't even smart enough to pick the right republican federal district attorney in Delaware. Who wouldn't know about this guy? I advocated from the beginning that Trump pick people who were on his side regardless of their resumes, but Trump personally picked this asshole out of a crowd of qualified republican prosecutors in Delaware (a state rich in right wing attorneys) and he turned out bad. There is no excuse.
We all should rescind our support for him and shift it to one of the other conservative leaders with 75 million supporters. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Fucking Trump wasn't even smart enough to pick the right republican federal district attorney in Delaware. Who wouldn't know about this guy? I advocated from the beginning that Trump pick people who were on his side regardless of their resumes, but Trump personally picked this asshole out of a crowd of qualified republican prosecutors in Delaware (a state rich in right wing attorneys) and he turned out bad. There is no excuse.
Posted by: jwest at July 16, 2021 02:46 PM (/BlEx)
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the military ready to take him out the moment he really tried to clean house, what should Trump have done?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (2JVJo)
Do you have a link to the military ready to take him out? Or the post in which this was discussed? I seemed to have missed it and am interested in reading about it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2021 01:28 PM (2JVJo)
Do you have a link to the military ready to take him out? Or the post in which this was discussed? I seemed to have missed it and am interested in reading about it.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at July 16, 2021 02:46 PM (hlxe7)
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@chris, agreed, and we don't know this, but I would not rule out that confirming the US Attorney for Delaware was part of a compromise package deal that resulted in our guys getting confirmed in other, more important posts. Sausage making, etc.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 16, 2021 02:46 PM (g4YTo)
483
So, this rant makes me wonder if Ace has been following Trump for 2016-2020. I assume he - unlike all the other cons was against Sessions as AG. And I assume - unlike the other Righties - he was against Barr as AG.
Trump was the President. He didn't pick Weiss as a District AG personally. He did it based on advice from Barr and the Deputy AG and the Republican Senators on the Judiciary Committee. So who warned Trump about Weiss? I'd bet NOBODY.
How was Trump supposed to guess this guy throw out all the Legal ethics and hide the prosecution of Hunter BIden? How was Trump supposed to know Biden would be the nominee? How was Trump supposed to guess that Big Tech would literally censor news stories about BIden?
Look, you can't just elect one man to one office, and then go fishing. Why did all the Right wingers support all the R Senators in 2018 and 2020. Why did Right wingers support Mittens in 2018? Why didn't they storm the barricades to put Roy Moore in office? why weren't they asking questions about Kavanaugh?
Trump was the President. He didn't pick Weiss as a District AG personally. He did it based on advice from Barr and the Deputy AG and the Republican Senators on the Judiciary Committee. So who warned Trump about Weiss? I'd bet NOBODY.
How was Trump supposed to guess this guy throw out all the Legal ethics and hide the prosecution of Hunter BIden? How was Trump supposed to know Biden would be the nominee? How was Trump supposed to guess that Big Tech would literally censor news stories about BIden?
Look, you can't just elect one man to one office, and then go fishing. Why did all the Right wingers support all the R Senators in 2018 and 2020. Why did Right wingers support Mittens in 2018? Why didn't they storm the barricades to put Roy Moore in office? why weren't they asking questions about Kavanaugh?
Posted by: rcocean at July 16, 2021 02:50 PM (evE25)
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That you thought herding Cats was easy is a reflection on you. Letting Democrats have total power is a bad idea.
Posted by: Fisht at July 16, 2021 02:51 PM (g5ddn)
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I think most people that love Trump, like myself, realize there are warts with him.
No excuse but he was a political outsider that had to somehow work with the machinery available to him. He definitely trusted way too many in GOPe. I begin to wonder how many actual conservatives are available to serve in government. Most of us have no desire being any part of the DC shitshow.
And as many of us that voted for Trump also realized, it was a long shot for actual swamp drainage. Truth most likely is there is only one way for it to happen: Let It Burn.
No excuse but he was a political outsider that had to somehow work with the machinery available to him. He definitely trusted way too many in GOPe. I begin to wonder how many actual conservatives are available to serve in government. Most of us have no desire being any part of the DC shitshow.
And as many of us that voted for Trump also realized, it was a long shot for actual swamp drainage. Truth most likely is there is only one way for it to happen: Let It Burn.
Posted by: Jim at July 16, 2021 02:51 PM (B202/)
486
If Republicans are going to keep nominating GOPe for Senate and House and we're going to keep voting for them in the General election, then we might as well just stop complaining and accept defeat of our Right wing ideals.
Posted by: rcocean at July 16, 2021 02:51 PM (evE25)
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Anyway, why are talking about Trump? He will run in 2024 and he will be nominated. Or he won't run and we'll have to find someone else.
Trashing Trump at this point accomplishes ZERO.
Trashing Trump at this point accomplishes ZERO.
Posted by: rcocean at July 16, 2021 02:53 PM (evE25)
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@rhomboid, I will say that Trump fell short on personnel. There are about 3000 Presidential appointees in the government. Hillary would have started with 2000 names and left the other 1000 for Obama holdovers and to let her people get jobs for some of their people. Trump started with about 10 and did not make filling those posts Job One of the transition.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 16, 2021 02:53 PM (g4YTo)
489
But its amazing. The Democrats lie cheat and steal and break another ethical barrier, and people want to trash Trump! Hey, he should have looked into the guy's soul in 2017 or 2018 and KNOWN the guy was a weasal. Its his own fault, he was asking for it!
Posted by: rcocean at July 16, 2021 02:54 PM (evE25)
490
So please, tell me, do you think John McCain or Mitt Romney would have made better personnel hires? Can you tell me which possible Republican President could have done better here? Cause I'm not seeing it.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 16, 2021 02:55 PM (5HBd1)
491
As noted above, conservatives also vouched for Kavanaugh and Barrett. No, I'm not talking about the GOPe, I'm talking actual conservatives. And look what happened there. It's as if you cannot win because your success rate at putting in an actual conservative is 50% or less, regardless of how conservative they claim they are.
And the people you would need to put in to shake shit up would be immediately subverted by the swamp. Only one way out now, Let It Burn.
And the people you would need to put in to shake shit up would be immediately subverted by the swamp. Only one way out now, Let It Burn.
Posted by: Jim at July 16, 2021 02:56 PM (B202/)
492
Trump's ass was hanging in the wind.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (F0YaR)
You are correct and he does not deserve all the blame.
I honestly think the deep state is too deep and there isn't anyone who will be able to drain it. We definitely can't depend on the GOP. And this is why I am done.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 16, 2021 01:31 PM (F0YaR)
You are correct and he does not deserve all the blame.
I honestly think the deep state is too deep and there isn't anyone who will be able to drain it. We definitely can't depend on the GOP. And this is why I am done.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at July 16, 2021 02:56 PM (hlxe7)
493
Sessions was the trainwreck that no one saw coming. He was the only R Senator to enthusiastically support Trump. He was Right wing. He was on the outs with McConnell.
He seemed like the best AG pick at the time. Who knew he was a complete Establishment plant or a weak kneed loser who wanted the love of Diane Fienstein? It was either one or the other.
And who was responsible for Rosenstein? It was Sessions. Why was Rosenstein picked? No one ever answers the question.
He seemed like the best AG pick at the time. Who knew he was a complete Establishment plant or a weak kneed loser who wanted the love of Diane Fienstein? It was either one or the other.
And who was responsible for Rosenstein? It was Sessions. Why was Rosenstein picked? No one ever answers the question.
Posted by: rcocean at July 16, 2021 02:58 PM (evE25)
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Okay, I typed a long message and the machine says it "looks like spam." How do you make something not "look like spam?"
Posted by: MW at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (fs4s+)
Fewer paragraphs, quote less, shorter
Posted by: MW at July 16, 2021 01:42 PM (fs4s+)
Fewer paragraphs, quote less, shorter
Posted by: Oldcat at July 16, 2021 03:01 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Nom de Blog at July 16, 2021 03:04 PM (UNQS9)
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It's kind of hard to wish for an 'outsider' and expect them to have a few thousand qualified people ready to fill slots immediately, so I'm willing to give PDT a LOT of slack on the personnel issue.
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2021 03:08 PM (MVjcR)
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Yes, I know it sounds as if I am making excuses, but Trump was hobbled by (1) the people recommended to him and (2) nominees acceptable to The Turtle.
IIRC, McConnell slow rolled many of Trumps nominees.
Very hard to get good people installed with the system stacked against you. I remember many, myself including, lauding Mattis. What a crap weasel.
IIRC, McConnell slow rolled many of Trumps nominees.
Very hard to get good people installed with the system stacked against you. I remember many, myself including, lauding Mattis. What a crap weasel.
Posted by: butch at July 16, 2021 03:18 PM (cHvOo)
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With all due respect Ace, I fully understand the exasperation with Trump's staffing choices but the issue is there is a dire shortage of experienced competent people who could serve in the federal government who are sympathetic to our (and Trump's) views. Oftentimes they will publicly agree with our views before undermining them in secret. You hailed Bill Barr as the only competent individual willing to investigate corruption. We now know he was protecting that corruption. If he fired Bill Barr you would be incensed, and RINO politicians would never allow a proper replacement. Trump needed a party willing to back him up in replacing disloyal bureaucrats, whereas they were itching to replace every one with another Wray, Sessions, Barr, etc. Ultimately he thought winning the election would cement his control over the party and put his scandals behind him permanently but we see how that turned out.
Posted by: GrapeDrink at July 16, 2021 03:32 PM (GAPhN)
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Exactly. I can't blame Trump for this. There is nobody who could have done better. The Presidency is a joke. It has no power.
The government proved with him that on the exceedingly slim chance someone achieves the Presidency without being co-opted ahead of time, they will simply be attacked, restrained, prosecuted, and most importantly - ignored.
And then Biden proved that the government can put a fucking eggplant in the Oval Office, and it makes zero difference to the procession of events. The Presidency does not matter anymore. Nor do any elected positions at the federal level. It's just window-dressing for a bureaucratic cabal. Opium for the masses.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (7Ttpp)
100% agree. It is too easy to blame Trump for bad choices (and I am guilty of that) when, as you say, the president has very little power and an outsider, even less.
The government proved with him that on the exceedingly slim chance someone achieves the Presidency without being co-opted ahead of time, they will simply be attacked, restrained, prosecuted, and most importantly - ignored.
And then Biden proved that the government can put a fucking eggplant in the Oval Office, and it makes zero difference to the procession of events. The Presidency does not matter anymore. Nor do any elected positions at the federal level. It's just window-dressing for a bureaucratic cabal. Opium for the masses.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 16, 2021 01:49 PM (7Ttpp)
100% agree. It is too easy to blame Trump for bad choices (and I am guilty of that) when, as you say, the president has very little power and an outsider, even less.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at July 16, 2021 03:35 PM (hlxe7)
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I understand your anger. But I think it's better to think of Trump as the guy that proved beyond any doubt that the GOP cannot be trusted. They were going to sabotage him one way or the other. However because he trusted them they can't now claim his failures are because he brought in too many outsiders. Going forward anyone that doesn't understand the DEMs and the GOP are the problem is someone you don't want in this fight with you.
My definition of a republican : Someone who believes law-enforcement1 has been and continues to be honourable and trustworthy when it comes to their actions in the black community. But also believes that law-enforcement are liars and hacks when dealing with the white community2.
1 One bad apple does ruin the bunch. Look it up.
2 trump investigation, Flynn investigation, Hunter Biden investigation, January 6, Clintons, Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc., etc.
My definition of a republican : Someone who believes law-enforcement1 has been and continues to be honourable and trustworthy when it comes to their actions in the black community. But also believes that law-enforcement are liars and hacks when dealing with the white community2.
1 One bad apple does ruin the bunch. Look it up.
2 trump investigation, Flynn investigation, Hunter Biden investigation, January 6, Clintons, Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc., etc.
Posted by: blackemoji at July 16, 2021 03:35 PM (az7Dh)
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495 Bonnie Blue:
See the comments by Milley about the military brass' view of Trump.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at July 16, 2021 03:04 PM (UNQS9)
Thank you, will look for them.
See the comments by Milley about the military brass' view of Trump.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at July 16, 2021 03:04 PM (UNQS9)
Thank you, will look for them.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at July 16, 2021 03:36 PM (hlxe7)
502
The GOP has done to us what we know the Democrats have done to black people.
"trust me to protect your interests". And then ...
"trust me to protect your interests". And then ...
Posted by: Paul in Texas at July 16, 2021 03:45 PM (kYyDC)
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I can only support someone for president who understands the full evil of the enemy.
Thing is, you not only have to understand it, you have to be able to fight it. That means a full complement of like-minded warriors.
Whom, exactly, did you have in mind for the project . . . ??
Thing is, you not only have to understand it, you have to be able to fight it. That means a full complement of like-minded warriors.
Whom, exactly, did you have in mind for the project . . . ??
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at July 16, 2021 04:15 PM (Ybhj0)
Posted by: Minuteman at July 16, 2021 04:19 PM (Vh+yX)
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Now just a Goddamn minute... how do you act like there might be no connection between a former VP and his son? His son has no power to influence US policy except through his father! The idea that corrupt behavior by a close relative might be unknown by a patriarch is ridiculous!
Furthermore, the interests of the United States must supersede those of the President, so the concept of allegations against the POTUS occasioned by his son's behavior being "unfair" is also ridiculous!
Biden needs to be publicly charged!
Furthermore, the interests of the United States must supersede those of the President, so the concept of allegations against the POTUS occasioned by his son's behavior being "unfair" is also ridiculous!
Biden needs to be publicly charged!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 16, 2021 04:20 PM (8xsH3)
506
Trump was Julius Caesar handing out knives to the crowd. He can be DeSantos' advisor in 2024, if the aliens allow it.
Posted by: Fat Joe-NAH of Krypton at July 16, 2021 06:36 PM (VbLoi)
507
I agree that his hiring decisions were his worst mistakes, and I agree that he is too susceptible to flattery. Although I also think that he was trying to play ball with the GOP establishment during his first term, not realizing the depth of the rot. And also, not being familiar enough with the sprawling federal bureaucracy to know all of the players, so many of those decisions were delegated to people who he believed were on his side, until they weren't. When he filed for bankruptcy, he said that it was a good way to find out who was really on his side and who wasn't. I can only hope he's learned those same lessons from 2020 and goes scorched earth next time, if there is one.
Posted by: mississippigirl at July 16, 2021 06:40 PM (fi+0m)
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Too bad he didn't pick Joe DeGenova for AG and James Kalstrom for FBI Director; they were loyal. And would have cleaned house.
Posted by: Smitty at July 16, 2021 09:19 PM (HjdTl)
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A year ago at Instapundit Reynolds told me I was a troll for opposing lockdowns. People called me a troll for saying Barr would do nothing. People told me Trump would lose if he used the military to stop the riots.
Conservatives are the stupidest people in this country. They are West Bank Arabs never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity. It was clear a year ago, Trump really had no idea what he was doing. No we don't need him back, we need to get over him.
Conservatives are the stupidest people in this country. They are West Bank Arabs never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity. It was clear a year ago, Trump really had no idea what he was doing. No we don't need him back, we need to get over him.
Posted by: BurkeanMama at July 16, 2021 09:19 PM (CYk5a)
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The one unadulterated mistake I think Trump made was agreeing to bail out the states for COVID without any strings attached. He should have either a.) (my preference) told them, you're causing the misery, you pay for it, or b.) should have said if we, the feds, are going to bail you out, we, the feds, get to decide when you have to reopen. It's not like the Dems could have crucified him in public opinion any worse than they did anyway, and it would have prompted a lot of states (particularly red ones) to approach things a lot more reasonably, which would have both kept the economy better and put more pressure on the blue governors to open more quickly.
Posted by: Joe Smith at July 17, 2021 07:38 PM (zmIA8)
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I definitely think the elections need to be investigated, both to gain momentum to keep the Democrats from cheating in future and also to help delegitimize the current regime. That being said, I am a Christian, and I believe in Providence, and I think that God can bring good out of evil. The big problem with Trump is that there is a certain class of people who I think are normally open to right-wing ideas but who, for whatever reason (social snobbery, temperament, I don't know), simply cannot abide Trump and won't vote for him. My folks are the perfect example: despite the fact that they've both been seriously redpilled about the expert class by COVID, they couldn't stand him and wouldn't vote for him, and none of my arguments could get through to them. (My mom was particularly ironic, because the minute Trump announced he was running for 2016, she predicted he would win.) However, if the Dems keep acting like they are until 2024, I'm pretty sure they will vote for someone like DeSantis.
Posted by: Joe Smith at July 17, 2021 07:46 PM (zmIA8)
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Secondly, Trump has made the Dems so insane and fearful that they are overplaying their hand right now. For years, they've been slowly turning up the heat in the pot so all of us frogs wouldn't notice what they were doing. When Trump came along, however, they turned the knob up to full and kept it there ever since, and I think a lot of people are finally realizing how insane they are. In particular, I think a lot of moderate white lefties were so exercised by Trump that they were willing to excuse the bad behavior of Antifa and so forth; they convinced themselves that that evil man is making everyone crazy, and once he goes away, things will be back to normal again. Well, now Trump is gone, and the lefties are still crazy, and people are starting to figure out that this is the way they really are. CRT in the schools is a particularly bad thing for them, because it hurts them in two ways; it damages their kids' prospects in life, and it turns the kids against the parents. There's a lot of other things like that where people are starting to realize that the crazies ARE serious, and they really are going to come after all the white people if this keeps up.
Posted by: Joe Smith at July 17, 2021 07:54 PM (zmIA8)
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Also, of course, if Trump did nothing else, he proved to all of us deplorables how thoroughly corrupt government is right now, and that we really need to start taking the situation a lot more seriously than we have. If we do end up finding the dirt that we think we're going to find in the elections, I think it won't be just deplorables getting redpilled at that point; it's going to piss a lot of people off.
Posted by: Joe Smith at July 17, 2021 07:57 PM (zmIA8)
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"I know Trump remains personally popular with many of you, but for me, this is it: This is the breaking point. He's fucked up too many times, trusted the left too many times. Trusted GOPe saboteurs too many times."
Agree for the most part, but I put myself in his shoes on, say, January 28th 2017, and go 'who the fuck do I trust here... I can either be paranoid about everyone or I let people show who they are.'
The whole town of DC is corrupt and you can focus on the head GOP legal counsel Justin Riemer; "don't look into election fraud as we raise more money when our guy loses." How do you stop bleeding with an ethos like that?
Agree for the most part, but I put myself in his shoes on, say, January 28th 2017, and go 'who the fuck do I trust here... I can either be paranoid about everyone or I let people show who they are.'
The whole town of DC is corrupt and you can focus on the head GOP legal counsel Justin Riemer; "don't look into election fraud as we raise more money when our guy loses." How do you stop bleeding with an ethos like that?
Posted by: Danimal28 at July 18, 2021 08:57 AM (1HAs8)
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Dear GOPAdiosFOREVER.I'm going with Dave Smith Libertarians / Mises Caucus.
1/4 to 1/2 of what I want > bent over with vaseline.
GOP plantation, come for the promise, stay because you're a cuck masochist.
1/4 to 1/2 of what I want > bent over with vaseline.
GOP plantation, come for the promise, stay because you're a cuck masochist.
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Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement
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