Great Thread on How the Election Was Rigged, and How the Nation Was Stolen

MartyrMade
@martyrmade
I think I've had discussions w/enough Boomer-tier Trump supporters who believe the 2020 election was fraudulent to extract a general theory about their perspective. It is also the perspective of most of the people at the Capitol on 1/6, and probably even Trump himself.
Most believe some or all of the theories involving midnight ballots, voting machines, etc, but what you find when you talk to them is that, while they'll defend those positions w/info they got from Hannity or Breitbart or whatever, they're not particularly attached to them.
Here are the facts - actual, confirmed facts - that shape their perspective: 1) The FBI/etc spied on the 2016 Trump campaign using evidence manufactured by the Clinton campaign. We now know that all involved knew it was fake from Day 1 (see: Brennan's July 2016 memo, etc).
These are Tea Party people. The types who give their kids a pocket Constitution for their birthday and have Founding Fathers memes in their bios. The intel community spying on a presidential campaign using fake evidence (incl forged documents) is a big deal to them.
Everyone involved lied about their involvement as long as they could. We only learned the DNC paid for the manufactured evidence because of a court order. Comey denied on TV knowing the DNC paid for it, when we have emails from a year earlier proving that he knew.
This was true with everyone, from CIA Dir Brennan & Adam Schiff - who were on TV saying they'd seen clear evidence of collusion w/Russia, while admitting under oath behind closed doors that they hadn't - all the way down the line. In the end we learned that it was ALL fake.
At first, many Trump ppl were worried there must be some collusion, because every media & intel agency wouldn't make it up out of nothing. When it was clear that they had made it up, people expected a reckoning, and shed many illusions about their gov't when it didn't happen.

Indeed.

Not a single person has gone to jail.

Even Kevin Clinesmith, the fall guy -- and no one believes he forged that document without orders from Comey or McCabe or Lisa Page -- got community service, and what was, effectively, a one month suspension of his law license.

Not a single other person paid any price.

And we're supposed to keep believing in the government, huh? We're supposed to keep enlisting in the military?

We're supposed to keep obeying the laws?

We're supposed to keep believing the FBI and law enforcement? We're supposed to keep returning "guilty" verdicts at trial when the Ruling Class tells us to?

Why?

The Ruling Class ignores the laws.

We know as fact: a) The Steele dossier was the sole evidence used to justify spying on the Trump campaign, b) The FBI knew the Steele dossier was a DNC op, c) Steele's source told the FBI the info was unserious, d) they did not inform the court of any of this and kept spying.
Trump supporters know the collusion case front and back. They went from worrying the collusion must be real, to suspecting it might be fake, to realizing it was a scam, then watched as every institution - agencies, the press, Congress, academia - gaslit them for another year.
Worse, collusion was used to scare people away from working in the administration. They knew their entire lives would be investigated. Many quit because they were being bankrupted by legal fees. The DoJ, press, & gov't destroyed lives and actively subverted an elected administration.
This is where people whose political identity was largely defined by a naive belief in what they learned in Civics class began to see the outline of a Regime that crossed all institutional boundaries. Because it had stepped out of the shadows to unite against an interloper.

And the Ruling Class cannot be made to understand this, or maybe they understand it but just don't care:

When they subverted the Constitution to turn all of our institutions -- quite illegally -- against Trump, they also subverted the Constitution and weaponized our institutions against all 75 million of Trump voters.

So I ask again:

Are we supposed to continue obeying the laws? Paying taxes? Signing up to die in countries the Ruling Class chooses for us?

The Ruling Class has robbed us of any real input in our supposed "democracy."

Are we supposed to pretending we believe ourselves to be citizens in a republic?

GOP propaganda still has many of them thinking in terms of partisan binaries, but A LOT of Trump supporters see that the Regime is not partisan. They all know that the same institutions would have taken opposite sides if it was a Tulsi Gabbard vs Jeb Bush election.
It's hard to describe to people on the left (who are used to thinking of gov't as a conspiracy... Watergate, COINTELPRO, WMD, etc) how shocking & disillusioning this was for people who encourage their sons to enlist in the Army, and hate ppl who don't stand for the Anthem.
They could have managed the shock if it only involved the government. But the behavior of the corporate press is really what radicalized them. They hate journalists more than they hate any politician or gov't official, because they feel most betrayed by them.
Time Mag told us that during the 2020 riots, there were weekly conference calls involving, among others, leaders of the protests, the local officials who refused to stop them, and media people who framed them for political effect. In Ukraine we call that a color revolution.

More than one security/military expert told me that the entire scheme from 2020 on, including government tolerance for constant violent "protests" and the wholesale illegal writing of election codes with the establishment of both parties tacitly permitting it, was a textbook "color revolution."

An organized coup designed to look like an organic, bottom-up uprising.

Throughout the summer, Democrat governors took advantage of COVID to change voting procedures. It wasn't just the mail-ins (they lowered signature matching standards, etc). After the collusion scam, the fake impeachment, Trump ppl expected shenanigans by now.
Re: "fake impeachment", we now know that Trump's request for Ukraine to cooperate w/the DOJ regarding Biden's $ activities in Ukraine was in support of an active investigation being pursued by the FBI and Ukraine AG at the time, and so a completely legitimate request.
Then you get the Hunter laptop scandal. Big Tech ran a full-on censorship campaign against a major newspaper to protect a political candidate. Period. Everyone knows it, all of the Tech companies now admit it was a "mistake" - but, ya know, the election's over, so who cares?
Goes w/o saying, but: If the NY Times had Don Jr's laptop, full of pics of him smoking crack and engaging in group sex, lots of lurid family drama, emails describing direct corruption and backed up by the CEO of the company they were using, the NYT wouldn't have been banned.
Think back: Stories about Trump being pissed on by Russian prostitutes and blackmailed by Putin were promoted as fact, and the only evidence was a document paid for by his opposition and disavowed by its source. The NY Post was banned for reporting on true information.
The reaction of Trump ppl to all this was not, "no fair!" That's how they felt about Romney's "binders of women" in 2012. This is different. Now they see, correctly, that every institution is captured by ppl who will use any means to exclude them from the political process.

And what we also know is that Conservative, Inc. is an active, willing partner in the effort to disenfranchise us.

And yet they showed up in record numbers to vote. He got 13m more votes than in 2016, 10m more than Clinton got! As election night dragged on, they allowed themselves some hope. But when the four critical swing states (and only those states) went dark at midnight, they knew.
Over the ensuing weeks, they got shuffled around by grifters and media scam artists selling them conspiracy theories. They latched onto one, then another increasingly absurd theory as they tried to put a concrete name on something very real.
Media & Tech did everything to make things worse. Everything about the election was strange - the changes to procedure, unprecedented mail-in voting, the delays, etc - but rather than admit that and make everything transparent, they banned discussion of it (even in DMs!).
Everyone knows that, just as Don Jr's laptop would've been the story of the century, if everything about the election dispute was the same, except the parties were reversed, suspicions about the outcome would've been Taken Very Seriously. See 2016 for proof.
Even the courts' refusal of the case gets nowhere w/them, because of how the opposition embraced mass political violence. They'll say, w/good reason: What judge will stick his neck out for Trump knowing he'll be destroyed in the media as a violent mob burns down his house?
It's a fact, according to Time Magazine, that mass riots were planned in cities across the country if Trump won. Sure, they were "protests", but they were planned by the same people as during the summer, and everyone knows what it would have meant. Judges have families, too.
Forget the ballot conspiracies. It's a fact that governors used COVID to unconstitutionally alter election procedures (the Constitution states that only legislatures can do so) to help Biden to make up for a massive enthusiasm gap by gaming the mail-in ballot system.
They knew it was unconstitutional, it's right there in plain English. But they knew the cases wouldn't see court until after the election. And what judge will toss millions of ballots because a governor broke the rules? The threat of mass riots wasn't implied, it was direct.
a) The entrenched bureaucracy & security state subverted Trump from Day 1, b) The press is part of the operation, c) Election rules were changed, d) Big Tech censors opposition, e) Political violence is legitimized & encouraged, f) Trump is banned from social media.
They were led down some rabbit holes, but they are absolutely right that their gov't is monopolized by a Regime that believes they are beneath representation, and will observe no limits to keep them getting it. Trump fans should be happy he lost; it might've kept him alive. /end

He'd like you to check out his podcast, so maybe do that.

It's time to start talking seriously about the crisis of illegitimacy in the former America republic, and what exactly the subjects of the Ruling Class -- not the citizens, we're not that, we're subjects, and we will pretend no longer -- will do about it.

Posted by: Ace at 02:23 PM

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1 Bam

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 09, 2021 01:23 PM (kTF2Z)

2 Italicans!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 09, 2021 01:23 PM (kTF2Z)

3 Ace just embarreled himself. Lol.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 09, 2021 01:24 PM (ptqGC)

4 I nooded.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 09, 2021 01:24 PM (kTF2Z)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:24 PM (Zz0t1)

6 HOW DO dem HTML tags work?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:24 PM (Zz0t1)

7 Fuckin' Italicans.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:25 PM (Zz0t1)

8 Ok off to read the movie review.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 09, 2021 01:25 PM (kTF2Z)

9 Thanks to Rhomboid for posting about this earlier. Great thread and thank you for the enlightening post, Ace.

Posted by: EveR at July 09, 2021 01:25 PM (MUpk6)

10 We're all leaning right at least.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 09, 2021 01:25 PM (ptqGC)

11 I posted earlier that about 35k Change of Address files in GA show people voted in wrong county and/or double voted in 2 counties totaling about 10k illegal votes. In an election decided by 12k votes.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 09, 2021 01:25 PM (yrol0)

12 Nice save, ace.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 09, 2021 01:25 PM (m+jkK)

13 At 10pm Trump was at 90% to win in all betting markets. Then they stopped counting in 4 states that all went for Biden after 4 days of dinging ballots under tables and in basements.

That is all the proof I need to know it was stolen.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 09, 2021 01:26 PM (dCcLm)

14 Read his thread earlier He makes some very good points, so doubtless he'll be removed from Twitter pretty soon. And it's a silly point-but whatever-Can't I care for his name tag line
"pious son of demons."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 01:26 PM (k39e/)

15 Bongino quoted the MartyrMade thread today too.

Posted by: gp Dodging Fast Nuclei at July 09, 2021 01:26 PM (qpX6U)

16 14-Meant "Can't say that I care for his name tag line."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 01:27 PM (k39e/)

17 Not Kevin "key to the whole thing" Clineshitter!

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 01:27 PM (aOoUr)

18 Like I said the other day, a whole lotta Boomers got their internalized model of American Civics blown the fuck out. I get why they are irrationally angry. I went through a similar type of anger years ago, although probably of lesser intensity.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM (DXFDM)

19

This is one of Trump's greatest successes: making us realize the Jefferson Airplane lyric writ large about who runs this country:

"When the truth is found, to be lies..."

He exposed the illusion. There can be no going back now, for better or for worse.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM (s2VJv)

20 Whoa. I need more covfefe for this. Maybe a drink and a Valium too. Hey, thats sound like a great combo!

Posted by: Super Straight White Privileged Eyetalian at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM (l5R6/)

21 That's heavy, doc...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM (LvTSG)

22 Happy, happy Friday.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (XvPQV)

23
I better not write what I'm thinking about the notion of extra-judicial "comeuppances" for these people.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (s2VJv)

24 I remember the feds arresting the woman that made the video showing the Biden junta was using a color revolution strategy.
What ever happened to her?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (DpkTQ)

25 ... family drama, emails describing direct corruption and backed up by the CEO of the company they were using, the NYT wouldn't have been banned.
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"Wouldn't have been banned"? How about Top Global Story until 2025???

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (aOoUr)

26 He's had a lot of talk with "boomer-tier" Trump supporters.
Which tier is he in?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (k39e/)

27 Posted by: Super Straight White Privileged Eyetalian at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM (l5R6/)

Just curious, are you who I think you are?

Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (Ez6QX)

28 Happy, happy Friday.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (XvPQV)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

29 The Capital still has a fence around it. Not a good sign.

(Can one of you confirm that?)

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 09, 2021 01:31 PM (KxxIG)

30 Even this summary left out that the election allegedly had over a 90% registered voter turnout. That's the most significant sign to me that the election was fraudulent.

Anyway we are past the point that any complaints or summary will do any good. We have moved to the next level. Prepare accordingly.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:31 PM (2DOZq)

31 "In Ukraine we..." Is the writer Ukrainian?

Posted by: EveR at July 09, 2021 01:32 PM (MUpk6)

32 According to the leftist red brigade, Boomers are un people.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 09, 2021 01:32 PM (dCcLm)

33 Posted by: Super Straight White Privileged Eyetalian at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM (l5R6/)

Just curious, are you who I think you are?
Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (Ez6QX)

John Travolta?

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:32 PM (2DOZq)

34 It seems Mr. Pelosi's been heavily investing in tech stocks and making a fortune. I wouldn't be counting on the gub-mint to "break up" big tech's monopolies. Maybe lock up Martha Stewart again.

Posted by: pahound at July 09, 2021 01:33 PM (lYFL8)

35 Anyway we are past the point that any complaints or summary will do any
good. We have moved to the next level. Prepare accordingly.
Loin status:
[ ] Girded
[ ] Not girded at all
[X] Needs more girding

Posted by: pep at July 09, 2021 01:33 PM (ZsR3z)

36 That article is a distillation of the blog/user commentary that carried on over the last 5 years right here on Ace of Spades.

The biggest problem is that all of the actors admitted during closed testimony that the Russia collusion narrative was complete and utter horseshit as early as 2017 and yet GOP dick holes like Trey "Fag Hair" Gowdy allowed Deep Donk to continue the farce until the very end.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 09, 2021 01:33 PM (qmgN2)

37 According to the leftist red brigade, Boomers are un people.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 09, 2021 01:32 PM (dCcLm)

Comrade, if you don't vote correctly, you are obviously not a real citizen, thus you deserve nothing!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ Lay back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at July 09, 2021 01:33 PM (hOUT3)

38 We're supposed to keep believing the FBI and law enforcement? We're supposed to keep returning "guilty" verdicts at trial when the Ruling Class tells us to?

Why?

I'm sure it's already been said, but I will repeat:

Because they have the guns and will use them.

We have the guns and won't use them.

In the words of Dr Nick Riviera, "It's just that simple!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 09, 2021 01:33 PM (2JVJo)

39 Hell, I thought Trump and his family would have been thrown in Jail by the end of February along with others. Weird how that hasn't happened But Randos who walked in the Capitol or who said mean things, defended themselves, or thought mean things have been have been or have had their lives destroyed or severely disrupted. Our entire country glows as the ADL dictates what can be said or thought.
Weird.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:33 PM (hpIjJ)

40 14 Read his thread earlier He makes some very good points, so doubtless he'll be removed from Twitter pretty soon. And it's a silly point-but whatever-Can't I care for his name tag line
"pious son of demons."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 01:26 PM (k39e/)

Maybe he has awful parents.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 09, 2021 01:33 PM (z5Vrg)

41 They went to a lot of trouble to elect a president who doesn't know where he is.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (oX/7Q)

42 "It's time to start talking seriously about the crisis of illegitimacy in the former America republic, and what exactly the subjects of the Ruling Class -- not the citizens, we're not that, we're subjects, and we will pretend no longer -- will do about it." - - Ace

We are running out of legal, reasonable options, considering who runs the justice system and what they consider as reasonable: sending us to a gulag or doing what Billy Ayers wanted to do.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (s2VJv)

43 John Travolta?
Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:32 PM (2DOZq)

Right, like John Travolta is super straight.

Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (Ez6QX)

44 Going to read the entire thread and links now

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (Cxk7w)

45 Read that thread last night. Good thread.

However, I think Clinesmith's whoopsy is too-little stressed.

If it was innocent (which I don't believe for a second) it was rank incompetence that Comey's reputation should not survive.

His "typo" was the difference between Page's association with Russians being "suspicious" and fucking self-explanatory.

It was a central claim of the Warrant Application that we couldn't figure out why Page would be meeting with all these Russians, so he must be an Agent of Russia!!!!!

On a document that you certify has is accurate--which apparently to our government doesn't mean proofread and fact-checked or anything. Kevvie wrote it in an email--so it's good enough to certify!!!

Keystone cops-level of incompetence. And *all* of it fell under something Comey signed off on!

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (XHhHI)

46 >He exposed the illusion. There can be no going back now, for better or for worse.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM (s2VJv)

Yep, I'll forever be grateful to him for this, even if I'm currently not terribly happy about how little he has seemed to care for the 6 Jan people rotting in political prison.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (DXFDM)

47 There is little to no question the election was fraudulent and invalid. There's no question Biden KNEW he would win. They just didn't think he was stupid enough to say it out loud.

https://youtu.be/WGRnhBmHYN0

The numbers bear it out in EVERY STATE that suddenly stopped counting, then miraculously had a spike for Biden that gave him the lead.

THEY ARE the Deep State. Who's going to stop them now? They got away with the biggest fraud event in world history and aren't looking back.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

48 I love this stuff but while we're busy painstakingly laying out every fact the Left already knows, they are already well onto their next five scams.

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (aOoUr)

49 The issue with most European countries is every level of the government is corrupt. You have to tip everyone and his brother just to get a phone, and if you have a business you are extorted at will by every low life government thug down to the garbage guy.

Hell, sounds like NY. I got stories.

Posted by: Super Straight White Privileged Eyetalian at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (l5R6/)

50 Look at the tweets in response. They are all, "but there was collusion" and that's their big takeaway. We really do live in completely separate worlds

Posted by: arminius256 at July 09, 2021 01:35 PM (Dpgtk)

51 I saw the thread on twitter and it is great. The only thing left out of it was the actual active coup plotting that seems to have been started on 06/06/2020 wherein the riots breached the White House perimeter, Trump was taken to the WH bunker, and Bill Barr deployed armed personnel under the control of the DOJ when Milley (and Mattis who had resigned) announced to the Armed Forces that it would in effect stand down and not obey orders to put down the insurrection in DC. It sure looks like Barr checkmated the coup plotters there, otherwise Trump likely would have been killed or driven from the White House in disgrace by rioters.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at July 09, 2021 01:35 PM (ssz2a)

52 MartyrMade nails the govt and the press mainly, but the overarching tragedy is that all our institutions are corrupt now. It appears that most people today will do whatever it takes for personal gain. They know they get paid the same whether they do a good job or a shit job. They act as if any self-serving behavior is OK, as long as they don't get caught. Trust disappears bigly. Civilization declines.

Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at July 09, 2021 01:35 PM (qpX6U)

53 Maybe he has awful parents.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 09, 2021 01:33 PM (z5Vrg)

Unless he's writing about his parents, why do we need to know that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 01:35 PM (k39e/)

54 Oh hey, see all that stuff about the dems using Covid as an excuse to change election laws?

Yeah, there's simply no way they suddenly reacted to it with off-the-cuff voting laws and schemes that they knew they could abuse to overcome even the greatest of margins.

All for a pandemic we were told we could flatten in two weeks.

Accidental lab leak my ass.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2021 01:35 PM (KbCG3)

55
Right, like John Travolta is super straight.
Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (Ez6QX)

Sure, I do guys.

I make LOVE to women. Means I'm not gay.

Posted by: John Travolta at July 09, 2021 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

56 The Capital still has a fence around it. Not a good sign.

(Can one of you confirm that?)
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 09, 2021 01:31 PM (KxxIG)
---
See. 1/6 divided our country!

Posted by: Steve Shit at July 09, 2021 01:36 PM (XHhHI)

57 I'm sure it's already been said, but I will repeat:

Because they have the guns and will use them.

We have the guns and won't use them.

In the words of Dr Nick Riviera, "It's just that simple!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

The fact that the Homo Mafia can say that they are going to rape your kids and there is nothing you can do about it, and the loudest 2A people still don't do anything says it all.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:36 PM (hpIjJ)

58 Even Kevin Clinesmith, the fall guy -- and no one believes he forged that document without orders from Comey or McCabe or Lisa Page -- got community service, and what was, effectively, a one month suspension of his law license.

Oh, and Avenatti gets 30 months in prison for attempting to defraud Nike for $20mm+, and Mark Geragos doesn't even get charged by the DOJ? The Deep State takes care of their own, for sure.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 01:36 PM (JGRDt)

59 Just curious, are you who I think you are?

Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (Ez6QX)

Perhaps dear Jordan. xo

Posted by: Super Straight White Privileged Eyetalian at July 09, 2021 01:36 PM (l5R6/)

60 Perhaps dear Jordan. xo
Posted by: Super Straight White Privileged Eyetalian at July 09, 2021 01:36 PM (l5R6/)

Heh. Thought so.

Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (Ez6QX)

61 willowed: Trump's most significant early mistake was not having his team up and running on Day 1.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

I'm sure that the obummer admin. was hindering him at every turn.
Posted by: Infidel at werk at July 09, 2021 01:22 PM (/oG9s)

Remember that Obummbles friend's and hangers- on left a bunch of hidden hate notes around the WH for Trump and his staff. Hate and hinderenace from top to bottom, and they were proud of it (and cheered by the MFM!)

Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (Ed8Zd)

62 Right, like John Travolta is super straight.
Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (Ez6QX)

That was the intended snark.

Ah sometimes I miss.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (2DOZq)

63 What was going on while we were chasing our tail on Russia and the Dossier for 3 years?

They were working on crashing the world economy and stealing the next election.

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (aOoUr)

64 "Trump fans should be happy he lost; it might've kept him alive."

No shit. Biden sucks, but if Trump had won, the lunatic Left would have burned this country down to the waterline.

Posted by: MW at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (fs4s+)

65 46 >He exposed the illusion. There can be no going back now, for better or for worse.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM (s2VJv)

Yep, I'll forever be grateful to him for this, even if I'm currently not terribly happy about how little he has seemed to care for the 6 Jan people rotting in political prison.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (DXFDM)

That is definitely something I have been irked at. But for him to step up would mean them arresting him for insurrection then and there. I believe they actually would do that.

When Trump - or anyone - steps up and says "enough" he had better have a few hundred thousand heavily armed people with enough supplies for at least a year to back him up. As well as the will of the rest of us to take to the streets.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (s2VJv)

66 >>>That is all the proof I need to know it was stolen.

>>>That's the most significant sign to me that the election was fraudulent.

They trial-ballooned what would happen. Votes multiple times. Lax to non-existent signature requirements. Adjudication. Mail-in voting fraud and vote harvesting. Ballot box stuffing. Four state synchronized tabulation shenanigans and kicking out election observers.* All were apparent early on - in addition to the subsequent statistical and other analyses - while the GOPers were busy saying things that don't comport with reality like best election integrity ever. Stalin was right. We trusted them not to go there and they did.

*Massive fuckerbucks to the right people.

Posted by: flounder at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (KnJdm)

67 about how little he has seemed to care for the 6 Jan people rotting in political prison.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 01:34

We don't know that he doesn't care for them. As someone pointed out earlier, Trump has to be very careful about what he says since lots of attack dogs want him to be incriminated for supposedly starting an insurrection.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (k39e/)

68 Heh. Thought so.

Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (Ez6QX)

very savvy. and cute too.

Posted by: Super Straight White Privileged Eyetalian at July 09, 2021 01:38 PM (l5R6/)

69 That's heavy, doc...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM

Weight has nothing to do with this.

Posted by: Doc Brown at July 09, 2021 01:38 PM (m+jkK)

70 Votes *counted* multiple times

Posted by: flounder at July 09, 2021 01:38 PM (KnJdm)

71 "Trump fans should be happy he lost; it might've kept him alive."

No shit. Biden sucks, but if Trump had won, the lunatic Left would have burned this country down to the waterline.
Posted by: MW at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (fs4s+)

I'd prefer the burning. More honest. Clearer ROE.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 09, 2021 01:38 PM (XvPQV)

72 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:36 PM (hpIjJ)

I guess you're not a loud 2A supporter.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:38 PM (2DOZq)

73 YAAS queen!

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2021 01:39 PM (4q7lA)

74 Past performance is a perfect predictor of future performance when applied to corruption.

Posted by: KKK at July 09, 2021 01:39 PM (5dzKV)

75 We have so much power that only 55% of the nation thinks there was fraud!

And we'd like to thank those people for singling themselves out for vaccination...

Posted by: The MFM at July 09, 2021 01:39 PM (cTiTg)

76 The fact that the Homo Mafia can say that they are going to rape your kids and there is nothing you can do about it, and the loudest 2A people still don't do anything says it all.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:36 PM (hpIjJ)

Attempt rape on my kid and see what happens.

You can't kill for words, unless you are a part of the leftist's brownshirt mafia.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:39 PM (Zz0t1)

77
The thread is good. It's a fairly close explanation of how I felt in about 2015, but four years of Trump has shown millions of people what the score is in this upside-down, house-of-cards sham of a system.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2021 01:40 PM (7Ttpp)

78 The stolen election was most certainly more dangerous than 9/11. That's why they have to silence it.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at July 09, 2021 01:40 PM (ftFVW)

79 We're supposed to keep believing the FBI and law enforcement? We're supposed to keep returning "guilty" verdicts at trial when the Ruling Class tells us to?

Why?
_______________

Why? The usual reason for those living under tyranny. Self preservation.

At least, keep your head down enough to stay off their radar. That doesn't mean "do nothing."

Posted by: Eeyore at July 09, 2021 01:41 PM (7X3UV)

80 Look at the tweets in response. They are all, "but there was collusion" and that's their big takeaway. We really do live in completely separate worlds

Posted by: arminius256 at July 09, 2021 01:35 PM (Dpgtk)
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Wait for the Mueller report... Wait for the Mueller report... Wait for the Mueller report... Wait for the Mueller report...

FUCK the Muller report--Barr whitewashed the whole thing by giving a SPEECH underlining that no actual crimes had been uncovered!!!

Remember the conversation in 2017?

D: Trump's guilty of treason.
C: So far just a lot of accusations and a ridiculous pee-pee tape!
D: WAIT FOR THE ~~Great Pumpkin~~MUELLER REPORT!!

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:41 PM (XHhHI)

81 63 What was going on while we were chasing our tail on Russia and the Dossier for 3 years?

They were working on crashing the world economy and stealing the next election.
Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (aOoUr)

Like flipping a switch. That quick. Think about what you were feeling on New Year's day when Soleimani was whacked, Iran was teetering, Hong Kong looked to bring down the Chi-Coms and the Democrat field was a clown car as Trump was riding the greatest economic boom in history.

And just like that - -

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2021 01:41 PM (s2VJv)

82 What ever happened to her?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (DpkTQ)

Taking a dirt nap with those arrested for 01-06.

Posted by: KKK at July 09, 2021 01:41 PM (5dzKV)

83 No shit. Biden sucks, but if Trump had won, the lunatic Left would have burned this country down to the waterline.

You mean the coastal waterlines? Around those migratory turd sanctuaries? I'll send them matches.

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2021 01:41 PM (GuVSd)

84 "They were led down some rabbit holes, but they are absolutely right that their gov't is monopolized by a Regime that believes they are beneath representation, and will observe no limits to keep them getting it. Trump fans should be happy he lost; it might've kept him alive. /end"

Agree with MartyrMade on this post, but the question I have is: 'They', not 'we'? He's reporting on this based on speaking with Trump supporters, but does he believe this himself? He seems to say that he does, but he's not as explicit about it as I'd like. Is he self-censoring, because this is on Twitter?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 01:42 PM (JGRDt)

85 Did the 'republicans' just compare dropping their ice cream cone to 9/11?

Posted by: Alabama at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (QS6Hw)

86 That Twitter thread does some serious gaslighting of its own.

"Forget the ballot conspiracies"

Uh-huh. GTFO. The dude has no idea how adjucation was bastardized to commit massive fraud.

I can't believe Ace is linking to that thread. Dude, really?

The whole thread smells like "yeah, Trump voters have valid reasons to think the election was stolen, but really it wasn't. It's a conspiracy theory."

Posted by: Blabla at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (Dzn1W)

87 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 09, 2021 01:33 PM (2JVJo)

Pretty much

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (ONvIw)

88 This was kind of the point I was trying to make, but y'all were taking it the wrong way - the whole post-election lawsuit strategy was flawed from the get-go, because the fraud was put in place, undetectably, BEFORE the election.

No amount of post-voting analysis is going to uncover the truth about how ballots were stuffed by all of the (mostly illegitimate) changes to election procedure that loosened ballot security. Once that chain of custody is lost, you're not going to be able to trace it.

In that sense, it was the perfect crime - one that everyone knows you committed, but with no way to actually provide the forensic proof necessary to make you legally liable for it (and that presumes the in-the-tank legal system would even charge you if you could be shown to be guilty).

Posted by: can of spam at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (i7Gob)

89 I learned quite a bit of totalitarian governments reading Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and Gulag Archipelago. The elites will do anything from murders, lies, police actions to keep power. Our Leftists are doing the same thing.

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (Cxk7w)

90 67 about how little he has seemed to care for the 6 Jan people rotting in political prison.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 01:34

We don't know that he doesn't care for them. As someone pointed out earlier, Trump has to be very careful about what he says since lots of attack dogs want him to be incriminated for supposedly starting an insurrection.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (k39e/)

Another point, Trump has been adamant that antifa was behind these attacks. We know they only rounded up true MAGA supporters. Though I believe the following things are simultaneously true, it'd be hard to say antifa was behind it, also, free my supporters.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (KbCG3)

91 Is he self-censoring, because this is on Twitter?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 01:42 PM (JGRDt)

That is the sense that I got.

Posted by: flounder at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (KnJdm)

92 Here's the truth that much of us won't face

This country is rotten, all of our institutions are hopelessly rotten, and there is no concept of justice.

Why the fuck should I follow the rules ?

Done.

Posted by: Big Star at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (pvJV4)

93 And just like that - -
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2021 01:41 PM (s2VJv)
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A water pipe broke in every swing state and they would begin recounting at 10 am (although 4am works, too)

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (XHhHI)

94 Ace will like the analysis I just finished.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (5p7BC)

95 No shit. Biden sucks, but if Trump had won, the lunatic Left would have burned this country down to the waterline.

Biden's incompetence is going to burn this country down to the waterline both physically AND FINANCIALLY.

We probably won't be able to recover.

And the left wanting to burn this country down? Go for it. It's past time to cut fence and sort shit out.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (OCTRt)

96 "Forget the ballot conspiracies"

Uh-huh. GTFO. The dude has no idea how adjucation was bastardized to commit massive fraud.

I can't believe Ace is linking to that thread. Dude, really?

The whole thread smells like "yeah, Trump voters have valid reasons to think the election was stolen, but really it wasn't. It's a conspiracy theory."
Posted by: Blabla at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (Dzn1W)

Remember the whole ballots have steganography we can prove the fraud biz? Did not happen. Doesn't even actually exist. But people were on about it.

Don't even get me started about the Special Forces raiding a German server farm.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (4q7lA)

97 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 09, 2021 01:33 PM (2JVJo)

Pretty much
Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (ONvIw)

You, me, and MP4 should form a club.

Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (Ez6QX)

98 58 Darrell Harris

Peter Navarro said PDT had numerous EO's in the pipeline in November. DOJ threw those in File 13 and immediately began working on biden's EOs so he could have those in place on Day One. That's another example of how insubordinate those DOJ hacks were to PDT.

Posted by: EveR at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (MUpk6)

99 I am depressed... I thought by now I would have gotten over joe as the pretender to the WH, but I just can't seem to...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (Zmnko)

100 ere's the truth that much of us won't face

This country is rotten, all of our institutions are hopelessly rotten, and there is no concept of justice.

Why the fuck should I follow the rules ?

Done.
Posted by: Big Star at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (pvJV4)
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It only had some semblance of working when people feared God. (Fearing God is the LCD)

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (XHhHI)

101
Is he self-censoring, because this is on Twitter?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 01:42 PM (JGRDt)

That is the sense that I got.
Posted by: flounder at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (KnJdm)

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I read it as a foreigner talking. Perhaps a foreign-born US national. Might be misreading that, though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (7Ttpp)

102 It quacks like a conspiracy and walks like a conspiracy. All that is missing is the organizing documents and seminars, where state election officials were instructed on the steps to take and ideal timing, as well as how to respond to challenges.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 09, 2021 01:46 PM (LNdCt)

103 I'd have preferred Trump unleashed in his second term to bring the Golden Pimp Hand against the spoiled idiots who would 'burn everything down'.

Hell, I was really hoping for it.

Posted by: Alabama at July 09, 2021 01:46 PM (QS6Hw)

104 Even Kevin Clinesmith, the fall guy -- and no one believes he forged that document without orders from Comey or McCabe or Lisa Page -- got community service, and what was, effectively, a one month suspension of his law license.

But we were told that many more prosecutions were coming, 1000 sealed indictments, or is that "moving the goalposts" and being a Veruca?

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 01:46 PM (ONvIw)

105 It only had some semblance of working when people feared God. (Fearing God is the LCD)
Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (XHhHI)

Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2021 01:46 PM (4q7lA)

106 "It's time to start talking seriously about the crisis of illegitimacy ...."

I include in daily prayer that the fraud will be so massive it cannot be ignored.

That people like my Viet Nam vet neighbor who voted for Trump and just believes he lost because he "has to believe the system works" will have the scales fall from their eyes.

Any anything that happens after that point is done in righteousness with God's blessing.

Posted by: Fool Otto at July 09, 2021 01:46 PM (DB16e)

107
Don't even get me started about the Special Forces raiding a German server farm.
Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (4q7lA)

An op likely led by the CIA. Who's side are they on?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

108 The elites will do anything from murders, lies, police actions to keep power. Our Leftists are doing the same thing.
Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (Cxk7w)
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The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich has the leftist playbook nailed when it speaks of the tactics used by Hitler to attain power.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (2SdPm)

109 You can't kill for words, unless you are a part of the leftist's brownshirt mafia.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt

Have you seen the stats for rates of LGBTQ+ kids recently. They already are. The health of society and our country does affect your kids.

We used to act as a tribe and protect each other.
People were sold a lie of bootstraps and individualism at the expense of their own blood. How has that been working out Post WWII for our families, society and our country?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (IgnOU)

110 >I love this stuff but while we're busy painstakingly laying out every fact the Left already knows, they are already well onto their next five scams.
Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 01:34 PM (aOoUr)

Correct. It's nice to get an accurate post-mortem, but it all seems like a very late defense. While this was all being carried out, people who pointed it out were called conspiracy theorists, even by a sizable portion of the right. We're woefully behind, and constantly reacting.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (DXFDM)

111 Posted by: Blabla at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (Dzn1W)
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He's focusing on what is obvious, not what is contended.

Sure, everybody who doesn't stress what you want stressed is a traitor.

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (XHhHI)

112 Nope, he's American.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (7Ttpp)

113 Read this earlier, thanks to whoever posted it. I also have to agree with Trump being a target. I guarantee if it looks like he's about to become a threat, they'd have zero qualms about activating their sleeper cell maniacs.

I saw some lefty posting a mouth-foaming meme about Trump charging secret service rent - according to them so he could get free protection. I'm thinking more in line that he has to hire his own security to watch these guys.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (wAnMi)

114 ---
It only had some semblance of working when people feared God. (Fearing God is the LCD)
Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (XHhHI)

What does LeftCoast Dog have to do with this?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

115 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (KbCG3)

I'm more frustrated with Trump that he organized the Jan 6 rally. It's more aggravating if he's now admitting he knows that Antifa were there to do a false flag operation.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (2DOZq)

116 94 Ace will like the analysis I just finished.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (5p7BC)

Just don't tell people to vote for Traitor Marco Rubio harder.

Posted by: Blabla at July 09, 2021 01:48 PM (/BhCC)

117 An op likely led by the CIA. Who's side are they on?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)
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Certainly not on the side of America.

Freaking Brennan is a muslim.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 09, 2021 01:48 PM (2SdPm)

118 The whole thread smells like "yeah, Trump voters
have valid reasons to think the election was stolen, but really it
wasn't. It's a conspiracy theory."

Posted by: Blabla at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (Dzn1W)

Agreed, but if you read it in light of his original premise (this is how people who think the election was stolen think), which may be formed in such a way that it stays on twatter, then "forget the ballot conspiracies" is a necessary step to avoid getting bogged down in things like all the facts of irregularities that GOP/Left/Media swept under the rug.

Posted by: flounder at July 09, 2021 01:48 PM (KnJdm)

119 At 10pm Trump was at 90% to win in all betting markets. Then they stopped counting in 4 states that all went for Biden after 4 days of dinging ballots under tables and in basements.

That is all the proof I need to know it was stolen.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 09, 2021 01:26 PM (dCcLm)

While this is truth, what I recall most was that the yuan was crashing...and then counting was stopped.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 09, 2021 01:48 PM (nR2nR)

120 I'd have preferred Trump unleashed in his second term to bring the Golden Pimp Hand against the spoiled idiots who would 'burn everything down'.

Hell, I was really hoping for it.
Posted by: Alabama at July 09, 2021 01:46 PM (QS6Hw)
+1
I wanted lawful authority given to fight back

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 09, 2021 01:48 PM (XvPQV)

121 You, me, and MP4 should form a club.
Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (Ez6QX)

And I'm sure we'd have been thrilled to admit we were wrong.

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 01:48 PM (ONvIw)

122 No worries anytime mow the Durham report will come!

Posted by: Hannity tick tock at July 09, 2021 01:49 PM (Zmnko)

123 Have you seen the stats for rates of LGBTQ+ kids recently. They already are. The health of society and our country does affect your kids.

We used to act as a tribe and protect each other.
People were sold a lie of bootstraps and individualism at the expense of their own blood. How has that been working out Post WWII for our families, society and our country?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (IgnOU)

They are indoctrinating the kids of willing parents. NOT staunch 2nd amendment supporters.

Leftism is a disease. It spreads. There are PLENTY of blue shitholes in red states.

However, blaming conservatives with guns for 'sitting on their hands' is hardly the way to go about getting things rolling.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

124 >Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 01:37 PM (k39e/)

Hence the qualifier "seemed" that I used. Doesn't matter what's in his heart if he doesn't say anything.

I get that it would put him in further jeopardy, and I guess I can't blame him for looking out for #1, but it's not exactly top-tier leadership in my book.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 01:49 PM (DXFDM)

125 115 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (KbCG3)

I'm more frustrated with Trump that he organized the Jan 6 rally. It's more aggravating if he's now admitting he knows that Antifa were there to do a false flag operation.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (2DOZq)

The left created yet another heads they win, tails we lose situation. Are we not allowed to peaceably assemble in support of our president? Of course we are.

And yet, it created the exact scenario we see today.

My only disappointment is that the rally was just him giving the same speech he had given days before.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2021 01:50 PM (KbCG3)

126 I'm more frustrated with Trump that he organized the Jan 6 rally. It's more aggravating if he's now admitting he knows that Antifa were there to do a false flag operation.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (2DOZq)

There was something...off...with the rallies. The original "Wild Protest" was supposed to be on the West Side of the Capitol.

All of a sudden there were 2 more rallies, one on the 5th and the one on the 6th in front of the WH that Trump spoke at.

It was a division of effort.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2021 01:50 PM (4q7lA)

127 Sure, everybody who doesn't stress what you want stressed is a traitor.
Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (XHhHI)

Marco Rubio was in the Gang of Eight that "legitimized" the Russian collusion hoax. That makes him a traitor.

Posted by: Blabla at July 09, 2021 01:50 PM (/BhCC)

128 .

Posted by: must wash old socks from cache at July 09, 2021 01:50 PM (5dzKV)

129 He's had a lot of talk with "boomer-tier" Trump supporters.
Which tier is he in?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 01:30 PM (k39e/)

Fast attack.

That's a submarine joke.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 09, 2021 01:51 PM (nR2nR)

130 Just a reminder, Billy Ayers=Boomer. They don't like us because we remember where they came from and all that anti-government stuff they used to say and do.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 01:51 PM (5HBd1)

131 92 Here's the truth that much of us won't face

This country is rotten, all of our institutions are hopelessly rotten, and there is no concept of justice.

Why the fuck should I follow the rules ?

Done.
Posted by: Big Star at July 09, 2021 01:44 PM (pvJV4)

Because, by and large, we're Judeo-Christians, and we answer to a higher authority than this one. The first century Jewish Christians dealt with a government far more venal and corrupt than this one, and Rome became Christian in a blink of an eye, from a historical perspective. It's bad news for we who expect things to happen relatively quickly, but I don't think that's the way it's going to go down.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 01:51 PM (JGRDt)

132 Further to Ace's post, I again urge everyone to read Julie Kelly's article linked this morning in JJ's Morning Report. For your own protection.

She
cites case after case of people imprisoned by Trump-appointed judges (even) merely for talking about the
Jefferson Tree of Liberty quote or for possessing a Gadsden flag. No
actual crimes, just everyday quotes from the author of the Declaration
and an honored American artifact. Jail.

https://tinyurl.com/3jjhu8hn

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 09, 2021 01:51 PM (LNdCt)

133 We used to act as a tribe and protect each other.
People were sold a lie of bootstraps and individualism at the expense of their own blood. How has that been working out Post WWII for our families, society and our country?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:47 PM (IgnOU)
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Marx saw the use of markets to plane away "arbitrary values" (like family, God, country) to the mathematical value of the dollar.

Libertarians have been helping Marxists achieve that vision for decades.

The dollar is a unit of demand. Thus it is an expression of demand. It doesn't take any actual money to demand something, so the people with less capital to participate in fulfilling their demands become disgruntled. Because the purpose of life is fulfilling personal demands. When that is universalized (because you've knocked down every other thing that stands), it becomes unfair that some people get according to their demand and other people don't.

The final stage is the individual is the unit of demand: Socialism.

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (XHhHI)

134 Let's take up arms everyone! Jan 6 was just a start. This is such bullshit, Trump 2024!!

Posted by: Totally not an FBI Agent at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (Eus9b)

135
The whole thread smells like "yeah, Trump voters have valid reasons to think the election was stolen, but really it wasn't. It's a conspiracy theory."

Posted by: Blabla at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (Dzn1W)

I don't see it that way. I think he's much closer to where I'm at - that whether or not it was fraudulent (and it almost certainly was), the entire election debacle was *yet another* a feature of the corrupt Uniparty state that rules us all without any accountability.

And that millions of people who normally reject any criticism of the American system as a whole, and have consistently and stubbornly refused to believe the evidence that it is hopelessly corrupted, have now turned their backs on it as a result.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (7Ttpp)

136 The whole thread smells like "yeah, Trump voters
have valid reasons to think the election was stolen, but really it
wasn't. It's a conspiracy theory."

Posted by: Blabla at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (Dzn1W)

Maybe Im biased , but I think he does an amazing job laying out and justifying our position from a pretty neutral perspective.

Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (Ed8Zd)

137 134 Let's take up arms everyone! Jan 6 was just a start. This is such bullshit, Trump 2024!!
Posted by: Totally not an FBI Agent at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (Eus9b)

Yeah...hey, wait a minute, what's that Lincoln Memorial Lego set doing in your background?!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (KbCG3)

138 The government, both parties and the court eunuch bureaucracy, don't want citizens. They hate citizens. They want subjects, who do what they're told.

The 2020 election was them flexing, showing us the truth: we aren't a Republic anymore. We are an Oligarchy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 09, 2021 01:53 PM (XvPQV)

139 Because, by and large, we're Judeo-Christians, and we answer to a higher authority than this one. The first century Jewish Christians dealt with a government far more venal and corrupt than this one, and Rome became Christian in a blink of an eye, from a historical perspective.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 01:51 PM (JGRDt)
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Amen. Some of us answer to God.

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:53 PM (XHhHI)

140 ILet's take up [/]arms[s/] cell phones everyone! Jan 6 was just a start. This is such bullshit, Trump 2024!!
Posted by: Totally not an FBI Agent at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM

FIFY

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (Cxk7w)

141 I'm more frustrated with Trump that he organized the Jan 6 rally. It's more aggravating if he's now admitting he knows that Antifa were there to do a false flag operation.
Posted by: Just a side note

What about standing down for 4 GD years while his supporters and base gets the violence? What about rewarding his enemies? What about doing nothing while our history and culture and cities were destroyed?
What about the 250 million dollars he raised and pocketed for Stop the Steal legal defenses?
Now he is raising more money to sue Big Tech.
*spit*
Fuck that guy.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (IgnOU)

142 137 134 Let's take up arms everyone! Jan 6 was just a start. This is such bullshit, Trump 2024!!
Posted by: Totally not an FBI Agent at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (Eus9b)

Even thought this made me laugh, this is exactly what they want us to do.. They want their "white supremacist" terrorists ..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (Zmnko)

143 OT:

I won some little drawing, and now I'm getting a slipcover for the 4K of The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly shipped to me. Just the cardboard sleeve that the plastic case slides into. I don't even have the movie.

I'm going to be able to sell that baby (just the cardboard, mind you) for at least $60 on eBay.

Collectors are stupid, but I'm happy to take their money when I have something they want.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

144 He (Trump) exposed the illusion. There can be no going back now, for better or for worse.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM (s2VJv)

This is the reason "extremists" will be purged from the military by the Maoists. They expect insurrection (that will be their term - I will call it Revolution II). The Maoists do not want anyone in the military refusing orders to shoot revolutionaries, let alone joining the revolutionaries (especially as units), and/or handing-over large quantities of equipment and munitions.

I fear there is much trouble and bloodshed coming.

Posted by: Gref at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (AMIL/)

145 142 137 134 Let's take up arms everyone! Jan 6 was just a start. This is such bullshit, Trump 2024!!
Posted by: Totally not an FBI Agent at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (Eus9b)

Even thought this made me laugh, this is exactly what they want us to do.. They want their "white supremacist" terrorists ..
Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (Zmnko)

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I want to vote our way out of this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

146 Late-found ballots make me FIRST!

Posted by: andycanuck at July 09, 2021 01:55 PM (UHVv4)

147 When in the course of human events, you, you, you know, the thing!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 01:55 PM (5atWK)

148 You, me, and MP4 should form a club.

Like, for beating baby seals?

Posted by: Hillary, I Still Stink of Urine! at July 09, 2021 01:55 PM (QU5/8)

149 Blew that, hadn't done it in awhile

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 01:56 PM (Cxk7w)

150 I want to vote our way out of this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

I so pray for this

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2021 01:56 PM (Zmnko)

151 And that millions of people who normally reject any criticism of the American system as a whole, and have consistently and stubbornly refused to believe the evidence that it is hopelessly corrupted, have now turned their backs on it as a result.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (7Ttpp)

With you. Basically, whether you believe the vote fraud was real or not, the institutions have proven themselves capable of such a thing and are now rightfully being questioned.

The girlfriend caught cheating before has zero right to be offended when she's accused of cheating after the guy catches texting another dude late at night.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2021 01:56 PM (KbCG3)

152 Amen. ~~Some~~ All of us answer to God.
Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:53 PM

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (m+jkK)

153 Posted by: flounder at July 09, 2021 01:48 PM (KnJdm)

If the dude in that Twitter thread was serious about explaining how Trump was robbed, all he had to do was to point to Peter Navarro's report in which he explains the fraud happened at multiple levels, like a pincer movement. It was many things, and ballot tampering was definitely one of them.

The way he premised the story is this: "conspiracy theorists told Trump supporters the election was stolen".

Posted by: Blablabla at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (OwEqz)

154
I don't see it that way. I think he's much closer to where I'm at - that whether or not it was fraudulent (and it almost certainly was), the entire election debacle was *yet another* a feature of the corrupt Uniparty state that rules us all without any accountability.

And that millions of people who normally reject any criticism of the American system as a whole, and have consistently and stubbornly refused to believe the evidence that it is hopelessly corrupted, have now turned their backs on it as a result.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (7Ttpp)
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Some people don't get anything out of a rhetorical strategy that doesn't just lock in to everything they believe.

It's effective because it doesn't just rely on the most disputed claims.

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (XHhHI)

155 I am depressed... I thought by now I would have gotten over joe as the pretender to the WH, but I just can't seem to...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (Zmnko)

For your own mental health you just have to add it to the checklist of things you can't control. Think about all the things you would change if you had the power. Seriously. It wouldn't just be this.

You live with all those things. And you have to live with this one.

Please remember that getting on with your life and enjoying it is like garlic to their vampire. They spent four years sky screaming over orange man. They're miserable even now, trust me. It's not a good look.

It sucks what they're doing to the country but they've been doing it for a long ass time. It doesn't have to be your mental end.

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (aOoUr)

156 Collectors are stupid, but I'm happy to take their money when I have something they want.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

Collectors aren't stupid. I'm surprised you'd make that comment.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (2DOZq)

157 Even if Trump can get a second term (or Desantis wins) it'll be hard to clean out this shit. Most of these people were embedded for years, when Clinton and Obama cleaned house and installed all loyalist into every position of power, or when naive George Bush appointed people that generally hid their disdain for America.

Even when Bush did clean out some of Clinton's people, we saw how those people went and created their own shadow agencies to undermine everything (Obama's people were never cleaned out so they just did it directly from within the letter agencies)

The next repub needs to get rid of everyone connected to the last Dem presidents (and since connected to Bush) but they need to have people in place so those fired can immediately start being prosecuted, so they can't once again start undermining the President. They can't be naive to think that leaders, even in the military, are nonpartisan, because even most of them are guys who "served" as drivers and lawyers and who were appointed because they are dem loyalist.

On day 1 clean house and put Rick Grenell in charge of everything.

Posted by: Rbastid at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (yMJ7Y)

158 Anything you want, we got it right here in the U.S.S.A. !

Posted by: DB- just DB (iTXRQ) at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (iTXRQ)

159 42 65 jjs, it is widely recognized that the communists have routinely employed illegal means to destroy our government and other institutions, and care nothing for the Constitution. We must quit worrying about holding them to legal standards and emulate our Founding Fathers. Declare that they are draining our wealth, turning our nation from God, seeking to enslave all deplorables, and attempting to operate outside the will of the people.
I cling to the hope that AZ, GA, PA and others complete their audits and create such outrage that your last paragraph becomes realty. I doubt that we can undo 100 years of rot through taking over offices here and there as has been suggested by some.

Posted by: Sam Blozer at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (NdNSt)

160 150 I want to vote our way out of this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

You want to own a Ferrari, too.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (5atWK)

161 I do believe Leftists of every faction had a hand in the election.
It's possible many didn't know the whole plan but you can't pull off 4 states theft without a higher command.

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (Cxk7w)

162 Fuck that guy.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (IgnOU)

He'd probably prefer to *** Melania than you, WP.

But it's nice that you know exactly what he should have done. and when. Armchair quarterbacking months later is great.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (k39e/)

163 The whole thread smells like "yeah, Trump voters have valid reasons to think the election was stolen, but really it wasn't. It's a conspiracy theory."

Posted by: Blabla

He didn't seem like he read the filings or listening to all the hearings in the states along with other evidence collected after the election in real time.
(Maybe he didn't want to get banned by Twitter and was walking a tightrope so left some things unsaid).

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (IgnOU)

164 Amen. ~~Some~~All of us answer to God.
Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:53 PM

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (m+jkK)
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Sooner or later, true.

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (XHhHI)

165 You personally need to work with people you TRUST (i.e. know them well enough to know where they can be compromised) to decide on how to fix this.
.
Horizontal relations with other people to coordinate.
Vertical relations with your own group(s).
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I have some study material in nic.
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You could also start with the Special Forces manuals (found all over the web) re Irregular Warfare, other manuals like "atp5-0-6 Network Engagement", and the goldmine at the Assessing Revolutionary And Insurgent Strategies (ARIS) Studies site (look it up, url bouncing the comment)
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know your opsec...never advocate anything illegal in public...dont expect anyone to do this for you.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (0ifll)

166 Posted by: Rbastid at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (yMJ7Y)

Bush got raked over the coals for firing US Attorneys.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (2DOZq)

167 Decent movie about red-pilled normies. Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: Zombie Gene Siskel at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (vhe9G)

168 160 150 I want to vote our way out of this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

You want to own a Ferrari, too.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (5atWK)

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Incorrect. It's Bugatti or nothing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (LvTSG)

169 The whole thread smells like "yeah, Trump voters have valid reasons to think the election was stolen, but really it wasn't. It's a conspiracy theory."
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I believe the theory is that whether it was ballot dumps or loosening the rules to the point of legalizing fraud doesn't matter.

It was a government/tech operation to steal an election.

It's the same thing as Hunter Biden as an artist. Sure, it's all legal but everyone knows its a scam.

So was 2020.

Posted by: MJ at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (gAMkn)

170 I pray for the men and women who are fighting for us in AZ, GA, PA and all the other battleground areas and for Trump.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (Eebg/)

171 >Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 09, 2021 01:51 PM (LNdCt)

Also the implications that your "friends" will wear a wire for the Feds in order to entrap you and send you to Sing Sing for 20.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (DXFDM)

172 Amen. Some of us answer to God.
Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:53 PM (XHhHI)

ALL of us answer to God. Some of us just know that now, and are humbled into trying to follow His will here.

And others...well, when the day comes, you don't want to be found wanting, and I can't imagine what it would feel like to suddenly be before the judge and not be able to call upon the mercy of Christ in that court.

Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (Ojki1)

173 I cling to the hope that AZ, GA, PA and others complete their audits a

I remember feeling the same way about the Durham probe.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (5atWK)

174 Some people don't get anything out of a rhetorical strategy that doesn't just lock in to everything they believe.

It's effective because it doesn't just rely on the most disputed claims.

I was going to say just this. Except every time I typed it, it was filled with profanity and personal insults. So thanks for making me less an asshole than I habitually am.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (QU5/8)

175 the only thing to rein in a bureaucracy is cutting the money. Will never happen unless we have an economic crash.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (5HBd1)

176 >Bush got raked over the coals for firing US Attorneys.

Clinton fired them all on Day One of his presidency

Posted by: DB- just DB (iTXRQ) at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (iTXRQ)

177 I want to vote our way out of this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

*********

Same here but I fear we won't have this option.

Posted by: Blor Utar, from Zimtok-5 at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (xxG/v)

178 They had Trump hostage

The terrorists won the negotiations

Consider the ransom demand ....

Posted by: Mrm88 at July 09, 2021 02:00 PM (jIL4c)

179 What is the point of alternately posting normally and then trolling like an imbecile. Most of the people here AGREE with you, dummy.

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 02:00 PM (aOoUr)

180 This is the way the republic ends ...
Not with a bang but a gimper.

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2021 02:01 PM (8iWWm)

181 This thread scratches the surface about how I feel.

Add to it: the American Establishment lied about fake cures (Remdesivir) and censored real ones (hcq, ivermectin) to more or less murder my sister and cripple my momma. (And about half a million other poeple here and 4 and a half million more abroad).

On top of funding the creation of the virus in China.

How should I feel about a country like that?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain: Chernyenko my coat at the cleaners at July 09, 2021 02:01 PM (EyDUy)

182 a

I remember feeling the same way about the Durham probe.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (5atWK)
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The big difference is that these people are sincere.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 09, 2021 02:01 PM (Eebg/)

183 They always claimed the media had liberal bias, fine, whatever. They still thought the press would admit truth if they were cornered. Now they don't. It's a different thing to watch them invent stories whole cloth in order to destroy regular lives and spark mass violence
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so true.

Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2021 02:01 PM (Ed8Zd)

184 173 I cling to the hope that AZ, GA, PA and others complete their audits a

I remember feeling the same way about the Durham probe.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (5atWK)

And any number of other things that seemed so obvious that were just dragged until they stopped moving. But #TrustThePlan.

Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:01 PM (Ojki1)

185 130 Just a reminder, Billy Ayers=Boomer. They don't like us because we remember where they came from and all that anti-government stuff they used to say and do.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 01:51 PM (5HBd1

NOT Boomer, nor is the rest of the Weather group or SDS of the early Blank Panther leaders. They are the Silent Generation, which was probably the loudest group of people every to be born.

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 02:01 PM (ONvIw)

186 Bush got raked over the coals for firing US Attorneys.

Clinton fired them all on Day One of his presidency
Posted by: DB- just DB (iTXRQ) at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (iTXRQ)

Yep and the contradictory reactions for the same action is par for the course.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 02:02 PM (2DOZq)

187 166 Posted by: Rbastid at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (yMJ7Y)

Bush got raked over the coals for firing US Attorneys.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (2DOZq)

Agree with both points made. I'm a DeSantis fan, but I'm hoping to be a little more clear-eyed about the task ahead of him than I was with Trump. Short of mass indictments, I really don't see how any one Republican can clean the stables. Heavy D alone is not the panacea we hope he'd be.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 02:02 PM (JGRDt)

188 Bush got raked over the coals for firing US Attorneys.

Clinton fired them all on Day One of his presidency
Posted by: DB

Crickets

Posted by: Jean at July 09, 2021 02:02 PM (Xih1H)

189 Let's take up arms everyone! Jan 6 was just a start. This is such bullshit, Trump 2024!!
Posted by: Totally not an FBI Agent at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM (Eus9b)

Even thought this made me laugh, this is exactly what they want us to do.. They want their "white supremacist" terrorists ..
Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (Zmnko)
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I want to vote our way out of this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)
***
Time to channel Martin L. King. Massive, peaceful demonstrations and civil disobedience. Let them bring the dogs on us. Force them to use their rules.
Get fit
Get organized.
Get ready.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 09, 2021 02:02 PM (axyOa)

190
It's 5 o'clock in the South Georgia Islands

the drinking lamp is lit

Posted by: DB- just DB (iTXRQ) at July 09, 2021 02:03 PM (iTXRQ)

191 The whole thread smells like "yeah, Trump voters have valid reasons to think the election was stolen, but really it wasn't. It's a conspiracy theory."

Posted by: Blabla at July 09, 2021 01:43 PM (Dzn1W)

I also see it as the semi fence sitting look people like Tim Pool have. If he'd have pointed out dozens of actual examples of fraud, twatter would have removed his ass. He's playing it safe to keep his account/podcast while still mostly getting the main point across.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 09, 2021 02:03 PM (wAnMi)

192 178 They had Trump hostage

The terrorists won the negotiations

Consider the ransom demand ....
Posted by: Mrm88 at July 09, 2021 02:00 PM (jIL4c)

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"Nice family you got there, be a shame if anything happened to them ..."

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2021 02:03 PM (8iWWm)

193 And any number of other things that seemed so obvious that were just dragged until they stopped moving. But #TrustThePlan.
Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:01 PM (Ojki1)

It was a plan alright, but it had nothing to do with honesty or justice.

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 02:03 PM (ONvIw)

194 Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (aOoUr)

Good advice. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 02:03 PM (k39e/)

195 How should I feel about a country like that?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain: Chernyenko my coat at the cleaners at July 09, 2021 02:01 PM (EyDUy)

Please substitute "corrupt government" and "media" for "country." WE are the country; not them.

Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2021 02:04 PM (Ed8Zd)

196 I want to vote our way out of this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

I agree, but people in hell want ice water and I suspect they have a better chance of having their wishes fulfilled.

Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:04 PM (Ojki1)

197 175 the only thing to rein in a bureaucracy is cutting the money. Will never happen unless we have an economic crash.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (5HBd1)
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An economic crash will hurt us more than the bureaucracy. We need fifty MTGs in the House.
The House abdicated its authority of the purse strings.
They can take it back.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 09, 2021 02:04 PM (Eebg/)

198 179 What is the point of alternately posting normally and then trolling like an imbecile. Most of the people here AGREE with you, dummy.
Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 02:00 PM (aOoUr)

Have you taken your pills today?

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 02:04 PM (FkApm)

199
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Incorrect. It's Bugatti or nothing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:58 PM (LvTSG)

They just merged with an electric car company and will be building all electric cars going forward.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

200 186 Bush got raked over the coals for firing US Attorneys.

Clinton fired them all on Day One of his presidency
Posted by: DB- just DB (iTXRQ) at July 09, 2021 01:59 PM (iTXRQ)

Yep and the contradictory reactions for the same action is par for the course.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 02:02 PM (2DOZq)

Conservative pols need to accept this and act. I believe Trump's second term was going to revolve around scorched earth, he just didn't get there.

But the fact is, America is, by and large, supportive of draining the swamp and all it entails. Is anyone other than Trump truly prepared to do it?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2021 02:04 PM (KbCG3)

201 199 They just merged with an electric car company and will be building all electric cars going forward.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

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Classic Bugatti or nothing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 02:05 PM (LvTSG)

202 Add to it: the American Establishment lied about fake cures (Remdesivir) and censored real ones (hcq, ivermectin) to more or less murder my sister and cripple my momma. (And about half a million other poeple here and 4 and a half million more abroad).

On top of funding the creation of the virus in China.

How should I feel about a country like that?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain: Chernyenko my coat at the cleaners at July 09, 2021 02:01 PM (EyDUy)

This will eventually come out. My fear is not what the people who currently believe this do - because it would have been attempted already. My fear is what the LIV who's been lied to for the past 18 months does when they realize this.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 02:05 PM (JGRDt)

203 =========

Classic Bugatti or nothing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 02:05 PM (LvTSG)

MUCH better.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:05 PM (Zz0t1)

204
Wantin' is one thing. Gettin's another.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2021 02:05 PM (7Ttpp)

205 Time to channel Martin L. King. Massive, peaceful demonstrations and civil disobedience. Let them bring the dogs on us. Force them to use their rules.
Get fit
Get organized.
Get ready.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 09, 2021 02:02 PM (axyOa)

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"WHERE is John Galt?"

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2021 02:06 PM (8iWWm)

206 Christendom is under attack everywhere. But God will win

I just wanted to say that.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 09, 2021 02:06 PM (oX/7Q)

207 The way he premised the story is this: "conspiracy theorists told Trump supporters the election was stolen".
Posted by: Blablabla at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (OwEqz)
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Where does he say that?
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I think I've had discussions w/enough Boomer-tier Trump supporters who believe the 2020 election was fraudulent to extract a general theory about their perspective. It is also the perspective of most of the people at the Capitol on 1/6, and probably even Trump himself.
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If you can't read that, perhaps I'll help you. There are people who believe that the 2020 election is fraudulent and there are people who don't seem to. "People who believe the 2020 election was fraudulent" is a fair way to describe the set of people who believe that.

He's describing or categorizing a perspective. It's meant to inform people who have gotten other ideas about conservatives. (cont)

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:06 PM (XHhHI)

208 >Some people don't get anything out of a rhetorical strategy that doesn't just lock in to everything they believe.

It's effective because it doesn't just rely on the most disputed claims.
Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (XHhHI)

Thanks for saying that.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 02:06 PM (DXFDM)

209 I don't cry easily but my lips trembled a bit after I read that brilliant thread from MartyrMade. I realized that almost everything I believed about the USA had been destroyed

I realize now that's why Trump ran in the first place in 2016. He saw what was going on and what was coming and he knew. And THEY knew he knew.

I almost cried because I realized that if Trump runs again, they will "get" him.
And when--not IF, when--that happens, everyone will finally know the Truth.

Trump will be the MartyrMade from all this mess.

God Help Us.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:06 PM (mR6Gs)

210 We ALL know the election was stolen. It kills me a little more each time I read more conclusive evidence.
I just wish President Trump would move past it because it will end up being his down fall if he plans on running in 2024.
We know he's wounded inside. We all feel it and know it.
He needs to regroup with people that will be loyal. But always remember this...
Communist China HATES President Trump. So if President Trump plans on running again get ready for the same shit.

Posted by: sidney at July 09, 2021 02:06 PM (+fjIe)

211 You probably don't like this either:
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Most believe some or all of the theories involving midnight ballots, voting machines, etc, but what you find when you talk to them is that, while they'll defend those positions w/info they got from Hannity or Breitbart or whatever, they're not particularly attached to them.
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Hence, it identifies them as: not fanatics or "true believers".

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:07 PM (XHhHI)

212 I think you actually made a good point in your normal comment. But your value here is strictly as a self-made punching bag so carry on.

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2021 02:07 PM (aOoUr)

213 It has been downhill since Wilson.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 02:08 PM (5atWK)

214 I am depressed... I thought by now I would have gotten over joe as the pretender to the WH, but I just can't seem to...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2021 01:45 PM (Zmnko)

If you are religious, the down side is that last book says things will get very, very bad at the end. And when you consider the dark places where humanity has been in the 2000 years since that book was written, well, that isn't hopeful.

But read to the very end of the book and it all works out for the best for those who hold the faith. So hold the faith, as losing it won't make your life any better in the short or long run.

*Does best to take own advice, but is struggling mightily*

Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:08 PM (Ojki1)

215 I want to vote our way out of this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

Nobody except the FBI guys doesn't. Where most differ is whether it is still in the cards.

Posted by: flounder at July 09, 2021 02:08 PM (KnJdm)

216 Forget the ballot conspiracies. It's a fact that governors used COVID to unconstitutionally alter election procedures (the Constitution states that only legislatures can do so) to help Biden to make up for a massive enthusiasm gap by gaming the mail-in ballot system.

Huh? No amount of mail-in ballots would have made up for that without cheating. Further, he's condescendingly insisting that we only have one line of attack on the election after admitting that entire divisions of the Feds were breaking the law to stop Trump.

And we're crazy to think that governors and state apparatchiks would never, ever cheat in an election they called the potential eNd Of DeMoCrAcY?

Frankly he should heed his own council and keep the 'You dumb, hick rubes need to shut up~!" to himself.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2021 02:08 PM (M119n)

217 Hence, it identifies them as: not fanatics or "true believers".
Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:07 PM (XHhHI)
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And identifies them as people who are into facts over a belief system.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 09, 2021 02:08 PM (2SdPm)

218 156 Collectors are stupid, but I'm happy to take their money when I have something they want.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting a war of tomorrow, today! at July 09, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

Collectors aren't stupid. I'm surprised you'd make that comment.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (2DOZq)

They can be. And I say that as one.

Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:08 PM (Ojki1)

219 This will eventually come out. My fear is not what the people who currently believe this do - because it would have been attempted already. My fear is what the LIV who's been lied to for the past 18 months does when they realize this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 02:05 PM (JGRDt)

Really? Truthfully I would look forward to what you fear coming to pass. My greatest fear is that there is no way out from dreary oppression that is only beginning to be heaped upon us - peaceful or otherwise.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 09, 2021 02:09 PM (yK6pq)

220 C.A.T. if your handing them out I'd rather have a McLaren

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 02:09 PM (Cxk7w)

221 they better not harm him.

Posted by: x at July 09, 2021 02:09 PM (oA+QO)

222 I watched some of Alex Jones on the Michael Malice podcast (Your Welcome). Not a huge Jones fan (not a detractor -- just ambivalent). I did like what he said about fearing "the man on the white horse"...

I do not fear (nor care) what happens to the ruling class in the next 5-10 years. I am a bit nervous of which grifter (or worse) seizes the reins. Washington DC won't like what comes after Trump. We might not, either.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at July 09, 2021 02:10 PM (fM2PW)

223 No one's starting covert networks. No one's planning low level sabotage. No one's Waiting On Orders To Shoot, not even you. None of you here even talk about about running for school board or town council FFS.

No, you're just going to lay low, keep yourself & immediate family safe as best you know how, hoping this all blows over soon or at least stops getting worse. MAYBE you'll determine your own Point Of No Return, but make peace you'll be in jail shortly after.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at July 09, 2021 02:10 PM (Oka5v)

224 He's playing it safe to keep his account/podcast while still mostly getting the main point across.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 09, 2021 02:03 PM (wAnMi)

It's that addiction or depedence on freaking tweets that stops people from telling the truth. That's the state of the "conservative" movement.

I guess a sweet Twitter accont is more important. Jesus.

I don't see another Andrew Breitbart rising in the near future.

Posted by: Triggered at July 09, 2021 02:10 PM (N08t9)

225 "I just wish President Trump would move past it because it will end up being his down fall if he plans on running in 2024.
We know he's wounded inside. We all feel it and know it."

Do even those of us who liked and supported and respected Trump ever think that Trump is not much "personally" wounded , in the bruised-ego sense, but "wounded" and "hurt" over the Fate of America, the nation, he was brought up to love?

Remember, he didn't have to run for president.
He had a nice life.

And the people in power who hate his guts and want him dead didn't care about him then.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:10 PM (mR6Gs)

226 The next repub needs to get rid of everyone connected to the last Dem presidents (and since connected to Bush) but they need to have people in place so those fired can immediately start being prosecuted, so they can't once again start undermining the President. They can't be naive to think that leaders, even in the military, are nonpartisan, because even most of them are guys who "served" as drivers and lawyers and who were appointed because they are dem loyalist.

On day 1 clean house and put Rick Grenell in charge of everything.
Posted by: Rbastid at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (yMJ7Y)
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The establishment has total control. Even if Trump could find true outsiders (ahem...Bill Barr), McConnell and company won't confirm them. Further more, you think McConnell stayed with Kavanaugh because he was a conservative jurist. Nah, he stuck with him because he was part of the establishment. He won't rock the boat too far.

Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2021 02:11 PM (G0vdT)

227 Nowhere does the Book advocate giving in or giving up.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 09, 2021 02:12 PM (Eebg/)

228 I think they'll kill him if he gets close to an election again.
We're in post Constitutional times.
It's a free for all.

Posted by: torabora at July 09, 2021 02:12 PM (R6gTL)

229 This will eventually come out. My fear is not what the people who currently believe this do - because it would have been attempted already. My fear is what the LIV who's been lied to for the past 18 months does when they realize this.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 02:05 PM (JGRDt)

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Nah, the vast majority will be told (eventually taught in school) that it's a conspiracy theory, nothing to see here, move along, need to get back to work for the American people, here's more free money, blah, blah, blah

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2021 02:12 PM (8iWWm)

230 Yeah, but the Weather Underground did not portray themselves as valiant Silent Generationalists. They portrayed themselves as Boomers.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 02:12 PM (5HBd1)

231 This will eventually come out. My fear is not what the people who currently believe this do - because it would have been attempted already. My fear is what the LIV who's been lied to for the past 18 months does when they realize this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 02:05 PM (JGRDt)

"They" will realize this only when Trump is, well, I'm not going to say it outright....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:12 PM (mR6Gs)

232 This will eventually come out. My fear is not what the people who currently believe this do - because it would have been attempted already. My fear is what the LIV who's been lied to for the past 18 months does when they realize this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 02:05 PM (JGRDt)

Judging b the people I know who are starting to wake up on the Rona hysteria? Be mad, but keep voting/listening to the people they feel lied to them, cause habits/faith/personal identity that identifies with those people simply won't let them consider they were wrong all along, and need to reassess everything. Gell-Mann will take over, and they will go back to sleep.

Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:12 PM (Ojki1)

233 Remember, he didn't have to run for president.
He had a nice life.

And the people in power who hate his guts and want him dead didn't care about him then.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:10 PM (mR6Gs)

And Trump's not a young man anymore. It wouldn't surprise me if it turns out that he knows that this is to be the cause he devotes the rest of his life to - no matter what happens at the end.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 02:13 PM (JGRDt)

234 Vote for me for school board!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 02:13 PM (5atWK)

235 Read the content.

*types* *deletes*

Now i am going to go read all the comments before i *types* *deletes* again.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (VcFUs) at July 09, 2021 02:13 PM (VcFUs)

236 This is the type of thread to really get me down.

What will we - as subjects - do about it? Probably nothing. I include myself in that.

I'm a single dad to two kids, both under seven years-old who has no familial support network. I can't go to the revolution because I have to keep going to work so I can continue feeding them.

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider, Single and #SuperStraight at July 09, 2021 02:13 PM (cvNl1)

237 Let's take up [/]arms[s/] cell phones everyone! Jan 6 was just a start. This is such bullshit, Trump 2024!!
Posted by: Totally not an FBI Agent at July 09, 2021 01:52 PM

Our Legos are ready, sir!

Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2021 02:14 PM (Ed8Zd)

238 230 Yeah, but the Weather Underground did not portray themselves as valiant Silent Generationalists. They portrayed themselves as Boomers.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 02:12 PM (5HBd1)

Well Baby Boomers were the "youth" once. So it makes sense they'd do that.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 09, 2021 02:14 PM (z5Vrg)

239 That Julie Kelly story in the side bar is truly frightening

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2021 02:14 PM (Zmnko)

240 I didn't want to live in interesting times, but here I are.

Posted by: klaftern at July 09, 2021 02:14 PM (r4sI4)

241 I don't see another Andrew Breitbart rising in the near future.
Posted by: Triggered at July 09, 2021 02:10 PM (N08t9)

We'll see to that.

Posted by: Big Tech at July 09, 2021 02:14 PM (Ojki1)

242 Something the persecuted church in the Soviet Union genuinely believed was that freedom came from God and not the government.
And they paid the price but many became fearless.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 09, 2021 02:14 PM (oX/7Q)

243 They can be. And I say that as one.
Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:08 PM (Ojki1)

Why? Because they find value in things others may not. We don't get to determine what other people value. Now if you're talking about 'collectors' who are in it to make money then that's a different point. There is a reason I put 'collectors' in quotes,

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 02:14 PM (2DOZq)

244 And Trump's not a young man anymore. It wouldn't surprise me if it turns out that he knows that this is to be the cause he devotes the rest of his life to - no matter what happens at the end.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 02:13 PM (JGRDt)

Exactly.

When I realized this, I felt a chill.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:14 PM (mR6Gs)

245 No Conservative but Trump will be able to gather the disparate groups that are necessary for victory.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 09, 2021 02:14 PM (Eebg/)

246 And identifies them as people who are into facts over a belief system.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 09, 2021 02:08 PM (2SdPm)
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Or as I put it: Details not gloss.

Almost any "answer" of the left to detail on the right is some general gloss that you're expected to simply capitulate to: "That's not happening. You're just imagining things. Trump was a crook and so everything is justified... We survived a tryant (with no details of tyranny). Listen to the educated. Believe in AGW. Take the shot. Don't take HCQ, it's fish-tank-cleaner and some guy got killed."

And of course, you're a moron or a nut for not simply swallowing the gloss. If you don't swallow the gloss that they swallow, you're "dividing the country!"

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:15 PM (XHhHI)

247 They portrayed themselves as Boomers.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 02:12 PM (5HBd1)

Isn't that the M o of the left? Wear the carcass of the thing you want people to believe you are?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 02:15 PM (5atWK)

248 I think this is why 1/6 was so unsettling for Democrats / the media / elites. Nothing happened, and they don't particularly care about that. It was simply the first time that everyone didn't sit back and accept the lie. They didn't shrug and say like Nixon that the integrity of the system was more important than any one election. They didn't solemnly shake their head and talk about how next time they'd just vote harder. A half million people protested, and a few hundred took a tour of the Capitol and no one played the game.

That's why they're pulling so hard on the insurrectionist crap. All of us are ones that typically valued The System and The Rules. We're the ones that pay our mortgages on time and mow our elderly neighbor's lawn. They need us to go back to playing within the system, and the only tool they have left is to try to scare us with our own old rhetoric about the rule of law.

To paraphrase Jeff Goldstein, they lose power when we go outlaw.

Posted by: sunny-dee at July 09, 2021 02:15 PM (Z2HD7)

249 I enjoy Martyr Made. A lot. He does great stuff with Jocko Willink too.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 09, 2021 02:15 PM (xUL7y)

250 I think I'm with The Founders on these issues:

Shoot first. Vote later, once the shit is fixed.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 09, 2021 02:16 PM (axcmk)

251 Posted by: Dark Helmet at July 09, 2021 02:10 PM (Oka5v)

Now this is what actually sounds like what a covert FBI agent would post.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 02:16 PM (k39e/)

252 I enjoy Martyr Made. A lot. He does great stuff with Jocko Willink too.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 09, 2021 02:15 PM (xUL7y)

OY!

Posted by: Jocko at July 09, 2021 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)

253 Gotta love the leftist twats responding to the tweet. "Umm... but 14 people were found guilty..." This is the problem with the left -- they never, ever, ever admit anything they did was wrong. The guy goes through chapter and verse, laying out the case for why conservatives are reasonably distrustful of repeated behavior, and all the leftist twats can do is copy-paste Vox commentary on Why Water Really Isn't Wet.

Whatever happens in the future, we've lost an entire generation to stupid. Everything they ever knew, they learned from Gurgle and TikTok.

Posted by: red speck at July 09, 2021 02:16 PM (gS3OW)

254 The objective is to make things hot and interesting for those who think Lady Liberty is a slut they can fvck.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2021 02:17 PM (tLHy+)

255 He needs to regroup with people that will be loyal. But always remember this...
Communist China HATES President Trump. So if President Trump plans on running again get ready for the same shit.
Posted by: sidney at July 09, 2021 02:06 PM (+fjIe)

I can only pray that there's enough patriots who will be willing to lay down their lives (in more ways than one) to work with Trump. Last time, you'd have to be batshit crazy to work for him, because they'd destroy your life, and your family's life. We now know along with Trump, that there's no choosing anybody who works in the swamp. They're all sleeper cells waiting for activation. I can't blame Trump for bad choices, his only choice was from a corrupted gene pool. Leaving Jared and company behind would also be recommended. Let him run a hotel someplace.

Now I'm hoping that there's enough people who see we might have one more shot at this thing, there's nothing left moving forward unless they join in. Yes, it will be far worse than 2017-2021. Because they're positive they've wrested power away for the last time. They can taste it.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 09, 2021 02:17 PM (wAnMi)

256 Yeah, but the Weather Underground did not portray themselves as valiant Silent Generationalists. They portrayed themselves as Boomers.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 02:12 PM (5HBd1)

Yes, but MOST of the misguided youth of the time were in it for the sex and drugs and rock and roll. And MOST of them "grew up" and became productive citizens, only slightly more hedonistic than their WW2 generation parents.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:17 PM (mR6Gs)

257 BRAVO!!!
Excellent post and completely spot on!!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at July 09, 2021 02:17 PM (71st6)

258 I just wish President Trump would move past it because it will end up being his down fall if he plans on running in 2024.

Posted by: sidney at July 09, 2021 02:06 PM (+fjIe)

No, just no. "Move on" is no good. They need to be caught and outed, preferably punished, but the DOJ won't do that. Bernie Madoff went to jail and the money was clawed back, they didn't "move on". Lance Armstrong's titles were stripped, he lost his sponsors and all credibility, the Cycling world did not just "move on". They acted. If there were any honest GOP or Donks or any decent judges or prosecutors "move on" after this level of crime would never be considered. Sadly there aren't, Barr, Rosenstein, Sessions and probably Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, McCarthy and Pence prove this. We do need them outed and their techniques discovered if there is any hope of "voting our way out of it". Moving on decriminalizes it.

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 02:17 PM (ONvIw)

259
Now this is what actually sounds like what a covert FBI agent would post.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 02:16 PM (k39e/)

He's not wrong, tho......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

260 One thing he is absolutely wrong about is in claiming that we were ever worried any of that ridiculous horsesh!t about Trump was true.

It was self-evidently false from the beginning.

That was part of the kink for the left. Rubbing our faces in it and making sure we knew there was nothing we could do about it.

Posted by: Thatch at July 09, 2021 02:17 PM (qWceQ)

261 They need us to go back to playing within the system, and the only tool they have left is to try to scare us with our own old rhetoric about the rule of law.

Posted by: sunny-dee at July 09, 2021 02:15 PM (Z2HD7)

I'm pretty sure that Rand lady had something to say about this...

Posted by: Dr. Washington Nearsider, Single and #SuperStraight at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (cvNl1)

262 This is why I'll support Trump until he decides he's out.

The nation was defrauded on the most massive scale in its history. The Civil War was the most impactful, but at least the participants had a say. In this case the majority DID NOT have a say. A government was stolen. Obviously, there have been no repercussions to the actors except that they're now more emboldened and more in control.

My continuing support of Trump remains my "F*** You!" I know what you did. You know what you did. I will not yield and let you sideline that which was just. You're illegitimate as a government as long as you abuse power (and you have) and will remain so until justice is done (which hasn't happened).

So Trump it is and will remain. My only hope is that when Trump regains control, he doesn't squander the opportunity to be the real SMOD. But I'll not be forced to move aside a maligned, targeted leader just because it might be expeditious. If justice eludes a lawful land, then it cannot survive.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (aXxgO)

263 239 That Julie Kelly story in the side bar is truly frightening
Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2021 02:14 PM (Zmnko)

Pretty close to the test run that WI Dems did in the John Doe probe in WI.

And despite a Rep gov (at the time) and legislature, no one who did that was ever held account or even reigned in in the future.

Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (Ojki1)

264 I'm still trying to live a relatively normal life while preparing for the worst.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (2DOZq)

265 Posted by: lin-duh at July 09, 2021 02:17 PM (71st6)

Howdy!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

266 If you are religious, the down side is that last book says things will get very, very bad at the end. And when you consider the dark places where humanity has been in the 2000 years since that book was written, well, that isn't hopeful.

But read to the very end of the book and it all works out for the best for those who hold the faith. So hold the faith, as losing it won't make your life any better in the short or long run.

*Does best to take own advice, but is struggling mightily*
Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:08 PM (Ojki1)

Thy Will be Done.
It's helped me get thru many bad moments since November.

Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (Ed8Zd)

267 256 Yeah, but the Weather Underground did not portray themselves as valiant Silent Generationalists. They portrayed themselves as Boomers.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 02:12 PM (5HBd1)

They were not boomers, no matter how they portrayed themselves.

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (ONvIw)

268 Sad.
We know that they know that we know.

Posted by: wth at July 09, 2021 02:19 PM (v0R5T)

269 Trump said to drink bleach.

(When the quote I was able to find used bleach as a simile and demonstrates that motivated Dems can act like the kid who flunked 2nd grade English, because he just didn't get metaphors)

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:19 PM (XHhHI)

270 the 2024 presidential campaign will be apocalyptic

Posted by: DB- just DB (iTXRQ) at July 09, 2021 02:19 PM (iTXRQ)

271 Socialists never Move On but they want you to and surrender.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2021 02:19 PM (tLHy+)

272 Or should it be:
They know that we know that they know?

Posted by: wth at July 09, 2021 02:19 PM (v0R5T)

273 Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (aXxgO)

My feelings, exactly.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2021 02:20 PM (JGRDt)

274 Thy Will be Done.
It's helped me get thru many bad moments since November.
Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (Ed8Zd)

That is a good thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 09, 2021 02:20 PM (k39e/)

275 Trump said to drink bleach.

(When the quote I was able to find used bleach as a simile and demonstrates that motivated Dems can act like the kid who flunked 2nd grade English, because he just didn't get metaphors)
Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:19 PM (XHhHI)

I have a neighbor that believes everything CNN said about Trump.....telling people to drink fish tank cleaner, drink bleach, inhale Lysol.

There are some VERY stupid people out there, who think their smarter than you, and vote.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

276 @236 Dr Washington Nearsider-Maybe when enough people wake up and realize the situation we're in a support system will materialize.

Posted by: JROD at July 09, 2021 02:20 PM (0jZnq)

277 Read Pennsylvania is slowly getting to a vote audit like Arizona, and no doubt the Democrat/Marxists will fight tooth and nail to hide their crime of vote theft.

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 02:20 PM (Cxk7w)

278 What bothers me the most about Americans allowing the usurpation of the White House is the social consequences of it.

Have you ever met somebody from corrupt countries like the former USSR or some Latin American countries where elections are completely meaningless, and people know they are living a lie but there was no way out?

Those people are cynical to the extreme. Their society is filled to the rim with people who stopped giving a shit about their countrymen long ago. As a result, they treat each other like crap, steal from one another at will, and kids grow up thinking they have to screw others for no reason.

That's what coming to the US. It ain't pretty. I lived it.

Posted by: Downstream at July 09, 2021 02:21 PM (TAF/P)

279 271 Socialists never Move On but they want you to and surrender.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2021 02:19 PM (tLHy+)

As do all zealots.

And many have ideas on what your "moving on" looks like.

Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:21 PM (Ojki1)

280 Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (aXxgO)

Well said. This is where I am.

Posted by: Bosk at July 09, 2021 02:21 PM (FgPjD)

281 "Are we supposed to continue obeying the laws? Paying taxes? Signing up to die in countries the Ruling Class chooses for us?"

Voting?

Posted by: f'd at July 09, 2021 02:21 PM (Tnijr)

282 I read this thread this morning. The author is at least observant of people's perceptions but it's a bit of a weak take IMO. Faceless operatives worked to steal an election and were successful. There was no attempt to right that wrong even though it was apparent early on that the election had been rigged... and obviously so. If there was a shred of moral turpitude in the GOP they would have banded together and put up a fight, but they were, almost to a person more interested in getting rid of Trump and opening up the spigots on the grifting pipelines. There's no saving, reforming or voting that resolves the fact the government is completely and totally corrupt.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 09, 2021 02:21 PM (BFigT)

283 Sad.
We know that they know that we know.
Posted by: wth at July 09, 2021 02:19 PM (v0R5T)
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It's precisely why they want to make our sources of actual information anathema.

I have tried and tried to avoid the unflattering realization that the "Elite" has suckered the emotional side so long that it thinks it can just insist on simple-mindedness for conservatives and make them enemies of the republic if they refuse to be such slogan-regurgitators.

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:21 PM (XHhHI)

284 they better not harm him.
Posted by: x at July 09, 2021 02:09 PM (oA+QO)

I have little doubt they'd have no qualms about doing the unthinkable if they felt threatened as they did before. I also have little doubt that would be the second shot heard round the world.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 09, 2021 02:21 PM (wAnMi)

285 "The custodial state is the sensibilities of women armed with the weapons and power created by men."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (vuisn)

286 You can be counter-culture. You can raise kids that can do critical thinking. You can encourage others to appreciate the good things that Western civilization gave us. You can teach real history. We gotta start somewhere

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (5HBd1)

287 The fact that the Homo Mafia can say that they are going to rape your kids and there is nothing you can do about it, and the loudest 2A people still don't do anything says it all.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 09, 2021 01:36 PM (hpIjJ)

I bet in 2-3 years time, we'll get a very concerned sob story in the tune of Mollie Tibbet's parents who come out (not phrasing) to say:

"Just because my son or daughter was raped and murdered by this very obvious pedophile, does not mean that we should think of pedophiles as bad people."

And the MFM, 75% of the younger generations, and half of the Boomers will clap along.

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (HK8/E)

288 Socialists never Move On but they want you to and surrender.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Exactly. They want us to move on because 9/11 was twenty years ago in the past.

Hmmm. 'Bout like that slavery shit, huh?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (OCTRt)

289 Trump learned a lot, he now knows the levers and buttons and who pulls and pushes them. He also knows who he can trust and trust not.

When he goes into office in 2024 he will have a solid crew, a solid VP, and the nation behind him.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (Eebg/)

290 18 Like I said the other day, a whole lotta Boomers got their internalized model of American Civics blown the fuck out. I get why they are irrationally angry. I went through a similar type of anger years ago, although probably of lesser intensity.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 01:29 PM (DXFDM)

I think this also explains the Qtards. They just can't face reality so they are clinging to this ridiculous notion that Trump and the Military are still secretly in power and playing 5d chess and all will be revealed in good time (as soon as they finish blowing up the child trafficking tunnels and hanging at the traitors at gitmo)

Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (BNMel)

291 Those people are cynical to the extreme. Their society is filled to the rim with people who stopped giving a shit about their countrymen long ago. As a result, they treat each other like crap, steal from one another at will, and kids grow up thinking they have to screw others for no reason.

That's what coming to the US. It ain't pretty. I lived it.
Posted by: Downstream at July 09, 2021 02:21 PM (TAF/P)

Have you seen modern society? It ain't "coming" anymore, it just hasn't metastasized fully yet. I hope anyway.

Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:23 PM (Ojki1)

292 When the quote I was able to find used bleach as a simile and demonstrates that motivated Dems can act like the kid who flunked 2nd grade English, because he just didn't get metaphors)

Trump at Charlottesville "You are trying to get me to say there are good people on both sides"

Press: He said there are good people on both sides!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 02:23 PM (5atWK)

293 Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:18 PM (aXxgO)

Agree that my support for Trump now is mostly as payback.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 02:23 PM (2DOZq)

294 There's no saving, reforming or voting that resolves the fact the government is completely and totally corrupt.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 09, 2021 02:21 PM (BFigT)

Nope, there isn't.

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 02:23 PM (ONvIw)

295 The fact that the Homo Mafia can say that they are going to rape your kids and there is nothing you can do about it, and the loudest 2A people still don't do anything says it all.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe

Touch my grandchildren and two things will happen to you.

#1. Opsec
#2. Opsec

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2021 02:24 PM (OCTRt)

296 One thing he is absolutely wrong about is in claiming that we were ever worried any of that ridiculous horsesh!t about Trump was true.

I don't think he comes out and says we "believed" that horseshit. It was more like a gnawing sense that, to use the cliche, "where there's smoke, there's fire."

Most of us probably went through moments like that--if we are being honest.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:24 PM (mR6Gs)

297 There are some VERY stupid people out there, who think their smarter than you, and vote.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

Yeah, I heard the same idiocy from a close relative, somebody who stopped being a teenager 30 years ago. I simply shook my head.

Posted by: Downstream at July 09, 2021 02:24 PM (TAF/P)

298 And...a large number of those 60s radicals came from well-to-do parents. Many were radicalized when they joined the Peace Corp and got to see real poverty for the first time.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 02:24 PM (5HBd1)

299 In the book of Acts the church prays for boldness or courage. That prayer may come in handy again.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 09, 2021 02:25 PM (oX/7Q)

300 There are some VERY stupid people out there, who think their smarter than you, and vote.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)
........

Ah. So you've met my brother.

Posted by: wth at July 09, 2021 02:25 PM (v0R5T)

301 Hey sponge! I've been super busy so haven't been posting very much lately. Usually I just scan the posts before bed and that's all I have time for.
I'm waiting for my son to get his braces on.

Posted by: lin-duh at July 09, 2021 02:25 PM (71st6)

302 There are some VERY stupid people out there, who think their smarter than you, and vote.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)
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Dunning-Kruger documents that to be true.

But the universal truth is almost everybody believes him or herself to be smarter than the people who disagree with them. Thus the insistence that my group is smarter is a default, and largely meaningless since it is a universal claim from even the most confounded people. It needs to be demonstrated.

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:25 PM (XHhHI)

303 It's time to start talking seriously about the crisis of illegitimacy in
the former America republic, and what exactly the subjects of the
Ruling Class -- not the citizens, we're not that, we're subjects, and we will pretend no longer -- will do about it.
Whatever it is, we have to recognize that we are past the point where we can consider strategies to get the wrong people to do the right thing. These people who see themselves as rulers (particularly the entire DoJ) are unsalvageable.

Posted by: Methos at July 09, 2021 02:25 PM (kOpft)

304 I think this also explains the Qtards. They just can't face reality so they are clinging to this ridiculous notion that Trump and the Military are still secretly in power and playing 5d chess and all will be revealed in good time (as soon as they finish blowing up the child trafficking tunnels and hanging at the traitors at gitmo)
Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (BNMel)

That's my BIL.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:25 PM (mR6Gs)

305 I'm coming across as brooding. I apologize.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 09, 2021 02:25 PM (oX/7Q)

306 All illegal votes count. You chumps should know that by now.

Posted by: Justice Roberts at July 09, 2021 02:26 PM (R6gTL)

307 Hey sponge! I've been super busy so haven't been posting very much lately. Usually I just scan the posts before bed and that's all I have time for.
I'm waiting for my son to get his braces on.
Posted by: lin-duh at July 09, 2021 02:25 PM (71st6)

Good to see you. Take care of yourself and your family, the most important.

See ya when we see ya.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:26 PM (Zz0t1)

308 I read the content. Great stuff ace.

Posted by: Archer at July 09, 2021 02:26 PM (gmo/4)

309 At 10pm Trump was at 90% to win in all betting markets. Then they
stopped counting in 4 states that all went for Biden after 4 days of
dinging ballots under tables and in basements.

*7* states. The 6 that were contested plus Virginia.

Posted by: Methos at July 09, 2021 02:26 PM (kOpft)

310 I just had a flash of genius:

Critical Climate Change Theory

Ok, I saw something on Twitchy, but I add it to climate change.

Posted by: sniffybigoe at July 09, 2021 02:27 PM (UuD2k)

311 I have a neighbor that believes everything CNN said about Trump.....telling people to drink fish tank cleaner, drink bleach, inhale Lysol.

There are some VERY stupid people out there, who think their smarter than you, and vote.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

I have a client who fits this description to a tee. A perfect example of a gay SF bay area californina, his world view is entirely informed by his social clique, and in turn the really well informed ones get their info from CNN, and in some cases the DU, Mother Jones and HuffPo. They're 100% unaware of any alternate information, it's a bubble.

And I sincerely doubt that even if you could get them to hold still and show them evidence to the contrary they'd be willing to believe it. It's a religion. You can tell by the way they just assume everybody is the same mindset, and blather on about whatever the talking point of the day is. Nothing could make me happier than for them all to have a severe dose of reality interfere with their lives.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 09, 2021 02:27 PM (wAnMi)

312 the replys to that guy on the twitter are as spastic as you'd expect I suppose...

Posted by: Inogame at July 09, 2021 02:27 PM (53oGX)

313 It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the English began to hate.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 09, 2021 02:27 PM (UHVv4)

314 Those guys in the DOJ are just doing what the Senators want.

Posted by: Justice Roberts at July 09, 2021 02:28 PM (R6gTL)

315 I think this also explains the Qtards. They just can't face reality so they are clinging to this ridiculous notion that Trump and the Military are still secretly in power and playing 5d chess and all will be revealed in good time (as soon as they finish blowing up the child trafficking tunnels and hanging at the traitors at gitmo)
Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (BNMel)

Also, I think this is what MartyrMade was referring to when he talked of "grifters and media scam artists" selling conspiracy theories.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:28 PM (mR6Gs)

316 30 Even this summary left out that the election allegedly had over a 90% registered voter turnout. That's the most significant sign to me that the election was fraudulent.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 01:31 PM (2DOZq)

Literally adopted this "Name" the night of the election watching the number of ballots returned in Wisconsin absolutely blow out the high water marks of state voter turnout by double-digit percentages, somehow overcoming what appeared to be an insurmountable Trump lead that would have held had turnout as a function of the total registered voter roll available on the state gov website "only" been up 10 or 15%. And this absolute tidal wave of newly motivated voters miraculously decide to materialize not for some hypothetical heavyweight Barack/Bernie versus Nixon/Rumsfeld, they turn out when Trump is allegedly unpopular and the democrats picked a totally unaccomplished old crippled white man and a sub-1% polling VP candidate.

Posted by: Turnout Man at July 09, 2021 02:28 PM (7CyhL)

317

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 09, 2021 02:28 PM (UHVv4)

318 I don't think he comes out and says we "believed" that horseshit. It was more like a gnawing sense that, to use the cliche, "where there's smoke, there's fire."

Most of us probably went through moments like that--if we are being honest.
Posted by: JoeF.

Only the unthinking ones. Tax evasion?
The IRS had an office in Trump Corp.
Criminal? NYC or NYS would have RICO'd him long before he ran.
Skeevy? Hinky? The media he lived in would have trashed him.

So no. There was no "there" there.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2021 02:28 PM (OCTRt)

319 Whatever happens in the future, we've lost an entire
generation to stupid. Everything they ever knew, they learned from
Gurgle and TikTok.

Posted by: red speck at July 09, 2021 02:16 PM (gS3OW)

They were never taught to learn. They were taught to conform, emote, and throw tantrums when they didn't get their way. Social media is a perfect platform for a generation of useful idiots.

Posted by: flounder at July 09, 2021 02:28 PM (KnJdm)

320 Good essay on this at DeepCapture

Posted by: torabora at July 09, 2021 02:29 PM (R6gTL)

321 Educate yourself. Vote the most right candidate you can. Challenge every tax assessment. Nullify in any civil matter and judiciously in criminal matters. Prepare food and water as for a long siege. Buy, you know the rest.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 09, 2021 02:29 PM (oWBc3)

322 Geez, my last two posts were about the American Shining Path murdering millions of unpeople and open pedophiles raping children whose parents ask for sympathy for the pedophiles.

I need something happy, but with so many lauded people being bought by Intelligence one way or another, I can't tell who's real and who's just an op.

I'll just pray silently for strength now.

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at July 09, 2021 02:29 PM (HK8/E)

323 I think this also explains the Qtards. They just can't face reality so they are clinging to this ridiculous notion that Trump and the Military are still secretly in power and playing 5d chess and all will be revealed in good time (as soon as they finish blowing up the child trafficking tunnels and hanging at the traitors at gitmo)
Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (BNMel)

That's my BIL.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:25 PM (mR6Gs)

And my (formerly) good friend.

Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2021 02:29 PM (Ed8Zd)

324 100% except that I never felt disillusioned because I wasn't illusioned. Offended? Yes. The Constitution is supposed to matter.

And then to have the hysteria after Jan 6th try to claim a Constitutional threat?

Posted by: Synova at July 09, 2021 02:29 PM (BD/yx)

325 The median IQ is 98. Biden is probably around that, perhaps a bit less these days.

The democrats coalition is made up of people who are well below the median, and those well above.

How do you fight against a party that has Zeke Emmanuel and Chris Cuomo? Both are dangerous and one is a useful idiot.

It's a hard nut to crack.

Posted by: MJ at July 09, 2021 02:30 PM (gAMkn)

326
Only the unthinking ones. Tax evasion?
The IRS had an office in Trump Corp.
Criminal? NYC or NYS would have RICO'd him long before he ran.
Skeevy? Hinky? The media he lived in would have trashed him.

So no. There was no "there" there.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2021 02:28 PM (OCTRt)

Shocking to think. Trump, a billionaire real estate tycoon, might've been the most upstanding person in politics in generations.......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

327 That's a lot to put together in a single thread, will check it out --- if he hasn't be totally deplatformed yet.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2021 02:30 PM (bDqIh)

328 And I sincerely doubt that even if you could get them to hold still and show them evidence to the contrary they'd be willing to believe it. It's a religion.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 09, 2021 02:27 PM (wAnMi)

Yep, this.

Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 09, 2021 02:30 PM (Ez6QX)

329 There are some VERY stupid people out there, who think their smarter than you, and vote.
Posted by: Sponge

Ah. So you've met my brother.
Posted by: wth

You must be my cousin then.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2021 02:31 PM (OCTRt)

330 I have no problem with being wrong if presented with evidence of being so. I know there is much I don't know.

I didn't think Jackstraw was stupid at all. In fact just the opposite. I just knew he was wrong,

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 02:31 PM (2DOZq)

331 On day 1 clean house and put Rick Grenell in charge of everything. Posted by: Rbastid at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (yMJ7Y)
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A President can fire or re-assign (through loyal subordinates) only a very small fraction of Executive Branch Civil Servants. Legally, that is. The people in all of the Deputy Assistant Under Secretary-type and above positions have job descriptions (SES) that allow them to be re-located and given a new and (on-paper) powerless job.

However, there's no way to prevent them from unofficially telling the GS-15 and below clowns left behind what to do. Cleaning the DeepState and Maoist troops out of the Civil Service will be an immense and long task. Even fifty Rick Grennells cannot stop all of the foot-dragging and order-disobeying shenanigans overnight. Unfortunately.

Posted by: Gref at July 09, 2021 02:31 PM (AMIL/)

332 If you thought they were out of stupid ideas . . .

Who's up for color-coded lanyards for the workplace indicating your level of social anxiety being around other human beings?

https://bit.ly/3qXjBDc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 09, 2021 02:31 PM (d9FiS)

333 Have you seen modern society? It ain't "coming" anymore, it just hasn't metastasized fully yet. I hope anyway.
Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2021 02:23 PM (Ojki1)

You haven't seen the full consequences of what I described.

In the US, you can still approach a stranger, say hi, exchange some pleasantries and move on.

Imagine telling "good morning" to somebody and getting idiotic answers almost all the time "what is so good about it?" or "did you win the lottery you are smiling do much?"

I won't even get into the details about applying for a job or getting failed grades in school on purpose because the sociopath you are talking to wants a bribe.

Posted by: Downstream at July 09, 2021 02:32 PM (O7WSR)

334 However, blaming conservatives with guns for 'sitting on their hands' is hardly the way to go about getting things rolling.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

There's a lot of that on this board.

Posted by: clutch at July 09, 2021 02:32 PM (9UmRs)

335 The Republican Party utterly and abjectly failed Donald Trump. One of the great failures of American history.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2021 02:32 PM (H8QX8)

336 Mood lanyards! We'll make a fortune.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 09, 2021 02:33 PM (oWBc3)

337 My view the �Leftists Seminaries are what's going to sink us, the next generation is getting a good Marxist brainwashing.

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 02:33 PM (Cxk7w)

338 Everything is Broken.

A name of an article written in The Tablet. It's in the nic. A good read after reading this. They are related.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 09, 2021 02:33 PM (tiR3O)

339 Posted by: Turnout Man at July 09, 2021 02:28 PM (7CyhL)

And I'll concede that extreme turnout by itself does not PROVE fraud. But by way of analogy large periodic cash deposits do not prove someone is a money launderer. And yet few question our rules about what banks must report, what banks can accept, how much cash you can stuff in a suitcase when crossing borders. The media would never lead a circus opposing those rules. But to ask that we consider the analogous circumstantial implications about quantifiable, anomalous data relating to the keystone of faith in the system and legitimacy of the government it births makes you literally Hitler to the establishment and their media jesters.

Posted by: Turnout Man at July 09, 2021 02:33 PM (7CyhL)

340 One thing he is absolutely wrong about is in claiming that we were ever worried any of that ridiculous horsesh!t about Trump was true.
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You're using a universal to "rebut" his impression of a cross-section of people.

You may think this works. But it does not convince anybody not already convinced of the universal.

I've made plenty of defenses for Trump--most of them were about media distortions of what he said and, inexplicably "future truths" (TRUMP WILL NOT LEAVE THE WHITEHOUSE!!! every 3 months or so), but, although not believing it, I was open to the "evidence" that Trump colluded with Russia.

Here, I have to mention the release that put my mind into a spin. The press were high-fiving and claiming Trump's presidency was over when the pee-pee dossier was released by NOT CNN. And most level-headed people read it and found it beyond the pale cartoony and far-fetched. And you just had to realize that any number of people in this country read more critically than the press cheerleading squad.

I remember seeing the press enthusiasm fade away into a wisp as they saw the reaction of derision from most people. And the press slunk away.

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:33 PM (XHhHI)

341 What is to be done?

Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at July 09, 2021 02:33 PM (RKp8A)

342 Excellent post, both Martyr and Ace.
I actually don't know what to do about the situation, I had some hope that people would rise up, but then I saw how many people became mask and vax nazis and knew we are at the bottom of the ocean and need to scale Mt. Everest.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 09, 2021 02:33 PM (r+sAi)

343 Is there a good way to save the article/twitter posts?

Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2021 02:34 PM (Ed8Zd)

344 If you thought they were out of stupid ideas . . .

Who's up for color-coded lanyards for the workplace indicating your level of social anxiety being around other human beings?

https://bit.ly/3qXjBDc
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Can I have black? It matches the color of my heart.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2021 02:34 PM (OCTRt)

345 The Republican Party utterly and abjectly failed Donald Trump. One of the great failures of American history.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2021 02:32 PM (H8QX

This is based on the premise that they neglected to protect Trump.
No, they wanted Trump to lose.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:34 PM (mR6Gs)

346 I think this also explains the Qtards. They just can't face reality so they are clinging to this ridiculous notion that Trump and the Military are still secretly in power and playing 5d chess and all will be revealed in good time (as soon as they finish blowing up the child trafficking tunnels and hanging at the traitors at gitmo)
Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (BNMel)

It's a shit shame, because these people would be good to have on our side. But they fell for the psyops hook line and sinker. This is why nothing has happened, too many believe in "the plan" and it's all going according to schedule. The crap they post is mind numbing. Truly chasing their own tails and popping down rabbit hole after rabbit hole.

Drawing lines and arrows from times and dates and words that Q posted to other posts by people PROVING the plan is in action. Look! Q posted at 13:04! And he says "red!" and "travel". And here, look! Flynn has a red tie, is standing next to a plane - and it's 04/13!!! Coincidence?!!? I THINK NOT!!!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 09, 2021 02:34 PM (wAnMi)

347 Relevant to this, but very, very long: Angelo Codevilla's postmortem on the Trump administration.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/07/06/what-is-trump-to-us/

He details all the ways Trump inadvertantly powered up the Deep State by inaction or misdirected action. DeSantis could publish this as his campaign website.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 09, 2021 02:34 PM (ZGrMX)

348 The weatherman said it was going to be a nice weekend after Elsa had passed, so this morning I took the top down on the Jeep for the drive home.

And now I'm watching it rain buckets into my open topped Jeep. (FWIW, putting the top back on is a 10 minute affair, not like the Mustang where all I would have to do is push a button.)

These bastiches can't reliably tell me what the weather is going to do in the next 10 hours, why should I believe the glowbull warmanist's warnings about the next 10 years?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 09, 2021 02:34 PM (CcOog)

349 What is to be done?
Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at July 09, 2021 02:33 PM (RKp8A)

THAT is the question

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:35 PM (mR6Gs)

350 I would add t he Global players to the bureaucracy and security state allied against Trump. The Five Eyes IC countries, nations that don't want to rock China's boat, OPEC nations wanting power back, and, of course, China - which would do anything to dump Trump.

Posted by: JM in Florida at July 09, 2021 02:35 PM (HCeRP)

351 Nood we're all rich!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 09, 2021 02:35 PM (z5Vrg)

352 Even fifty Rick Grennells cannot stop all of the foot-dragging and order-disobeying shenanigans overnight. Unfortunately
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You can move them to minot North Dakota and make them fill out paperwork every day that has no purpose.
Our give can easily function with 70% fewer employees. The dead wood in minot doesn't even need to be replaced.

Posted by: Drc at July 09, 2021 02:36 PM (vbaSG)

353 Blessing of Liberty! Confederate statues coming down in Charlottesville!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 09, 2021 02:36 PM (5atWK)

354 We must not forget though that over 70 million legitimate people cast their vote for Trump. We are not in the minority.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 09, 2021 02:36 PM (2DOZq)

355 However, there's no way to prevent them from unofficially telling the GS-15 and below clowns left behind what to do. Cleaning the DeepState and Maoist troops out of the Civil Service will be an immense and long task. Even fifty Rick Grennells cannot stop all of the foot-dragging and order-disobeying shenanigans overnight. Unfortunately.
Posted by: Gref

Unilaterally move the entire department to Fargo, ND. Those that refuse to go, I'll gladly accept your resignation.

Thank you for your service. Buh-bye.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2021 02:36 PM (OCTRt)

356 I never thought for a millisecond that Trump colluded with Russia or anybody else. In fact, when I saw Obama bring up Russia before the election, out of the blue, I knew something was up. The pee-pee dossier was laughable from the start.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2021 02:36 PM (H8QX8)

357 The Republican Party utterly and abjectly failed Donald Trump. One of the great failures of American history.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2021 02:32 PM (H8QX

This is based on the premise that they neglected to protect Trump.
No, they wanted Trump to lose.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:34 PM (mR6Gs)

Either way, they failed the American people who voted for them.

p.s as I was typing I got an "urgent" message from Keven McCarthy. Apparently I forgot to respond to my exclusive invitation to become a GOP insider. .

Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2021 02:36 PM (Ed8Zd)

358 >Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (BNMel)

That Thomas Wictor/whatever tf he calls himself now stuff is just unbelievable pathetic at this point. Waiting for Durham is more believable than the tripe those types are peddling.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 09, 2021 02:36 PM (DXFDM)

359 298 And...a large number of those 60s radicals came from well-to-do parents. Many were radicalized when they joined the Peace Corp and got to see real poverty for the first time.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 09, 2021 02:24 PM (5HBd1)

Most of them never got near the Peace corps. They were radicalized by their friends, and family and maybe by the War in Vietnam. Kathy Boudin's family were communists for generations, Bill Ayers was rich but never joined the Peace Corps, Abbie Hoffman, nope, Bernardine, nope, Klonsky, nope. The Black Panther guys, no they saw poverty, but it was here.

Who are you suggesting was radicalized in the Peace Corps? None of the big names, that I know of

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 02:37 PM (ONvIw)

360
There's a lot of that on this board.
Posted by: clutch at July 09, 2021 02:32 PM (9UmRs)

There is. We will, and likely will always be, the LAST to draw down, but may God have mercy on your soul when we do.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:37 PM (Zz0t1)

361 So we go USSR, drunken state sanctioned kleptocracy; Nigeria, state sanctioned kleptocracy with Muslim/Christian conflict ;or Yugoslavia, the real life version of The Purge. Good times.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 09, 2021 02:37 PM (oWBc3)

362 Shocking to think. Trump, a billionaire real estate
tycoon, might've been the most upstanding person in politics in
generations.......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

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Crazy, but true. *shakes head*

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 09, 2021 02:38 PM (LNdCt)

363 323 I think this also explains the Qtards. They just can't face reality so they are clinging to this ridiculous notion that Trump and the Military are still secretly in power and playing 5d chess and all will be revealed in good time (as soon as they finish blowing up the child trafficking tunnels and hanging at the traitors at gitmo)
Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (BNMel)

That wasn't Q though. That was the grifters that hijacked the Q train. Neon Revolt, Praying Medic, et al.

That's what addiction to social media will do. "Following" people leads to retardation.

Posted by: Rimmer at July 09, 2021 02:38 PM (Rl5v5)

364 Hash check.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 09, 2021 02:38 PM (TsmT1)

365 My view the Leftists Seminaries are what's going to sink us, the next generation is getting a good Marxist brainwashing.
Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 02:33 PM (Cxk7w)
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My guess was if they get enough Gramscian progress with "Christians", any more conservative believer's claim to abiding their faith will be "debunked" by the footholds they have in Churchianity. And you'll get "Jesus wasn't a bigot", and you'll be left with your own "bigotry".

The founders understood that faith was whatever each individual confessed. The coming collective will say that you're not allowed to claim faith if you disagree with this or that authority.

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:38 PM (XHhHI)

366 That wasn't Q though. That was the grifters that hijacked the Q train. Neon Revolt, Praying Medic, et al.

That's what addiction to social media will do. "Following" people leads to retardation.
Posted by: Rimmer at July 09, 2021 02:38 PM (Rl5v5)

It's quodverum and Brian and Wictor. But even they're burning out

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 02:39 PM (ONvIw)

367 Shocking to think. Trump, a billionaire real estate
tycoon, might've been the most upstanding person in politics in
generations.......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 09, 2021 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

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Crazy, but true. *shakes head*
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 09, 2021 02:38 PM (LNdCt)
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But he said "pussy"!

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:39 PM (XHhHI)

368 What is to be done?
Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at July 09, 2021 02:33 PM (RKp8A)
........

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Posted by: wth at July 09, 2021 02:40 PM (v0R5T)

369 Nood we're all rich!
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 09, 2021 02:35 PM (z5Vrg)
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Must be inflation!

Posted by: Axeman at July 09, 2021 02:40 PM (XHhHI)

370 335 The Republican Party utterly and abjectly failed Donald Trump. One of the great failures of American history.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2021 02:32 PM (H8QX

They sabotaged him. One can forgive honest failure. I won't vote for saboteurs.

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 02:41 PM (ONvIw)

371 363: Q was a farce, probably via the FBI

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2021 02:42 PM (ONvIw)

372 One possibility of the January 6 Witch hunt is to keep anyone not on their side to stay quiet

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2021 02:42 PM (Cxk7w)

373
However, there's no way to prevent them from unofficially telling the GS-15 and below clowns left behind what to do. Cleaning the DeepState and Maoist troops out of the Civil Service will be an immense and long task. Even fifty Rick Grennells cannot stop all of the foot-dragging and order-disobeying shenanigans overnight. Unfortunately.
Posted by: Gref at July 09, 2021 02:31 PM (AMIL/)

You can't fire them individually, but you can eliminate departments or lay them off due to budget cuts. Of course this assumes some Legislative cooperation, but it might be the least bad option.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 09, 2021 02:43 PM (Wm5SB)

374 don't think he comes out and says we "believed"
that horseshit. It was more like a gnawing sense that, to use the
cliche, "where there's smoke, there's fire."

Most of us probably went through moments like that--if we are being honest.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:24 PM (mR6Gs)

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nope. i knew it was bullshit from Jump St: if anyone had dirt on The Donald, they would have used it years ago.

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 09, 2021 02:43 PM (TZU1B)

375 Drawing lines and arrows from times and dates and words that Q posted to other posts by people PROVING the plan is in action. Look! Q posted at 13:04! And he says "red!" and "travel". And here, look! Flynn has a red tie, is standing next to a plane - and it's 04/13!!! Coincidence?!!? I THINK NOT!!!
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 09, 2021 02:34 PM (wAnMi)

You are describing the self-annointed Q "decoders". They are the ones who ran their grift on the Q gravy train. All pupils of the Alex Jones School of Critical Thinking.

Posted by: Primer at July 09, 2021 02:44 PM (b+NrN)

376 355 However, there's no way to prevent them from unofficially telling the GS-15 and below clowns left behind what to do. Cleaning the DeepState and Maoist troops out of the Civil Service will be an immense and long task. Even fifty Rick Grennells cannot stop all of the foot-dragging and order-disobeying shenanigans overnight. Unfortunately.
Posted by: Gref

Unilaterally move the entire department to Fargo, ND. Those that refuse to go, I'll gladly accept your resignation.

Thank you for your service. Buh-bye.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2021 02:36 PM (OCTRt)

If only that could be done, quickly. It will take a couple of years to do that under current Civil Service laws and rules (due to the protest process), or a revision of the Civil Service laws and rules. Or violation of the laws and rules. Simply the facts of Civil Service life, today.

Posted by: Gref at July 09, 2021 02:44 PM (AMIL/)

377 https://amgreatness.com/2021/07/06/what-is-trump-to-us/

He details all the ways Trump inadvertantly powered up the Deep State by inaction or misdirected action. DeSantis could publish this as his campaign website.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 09, 2021 02:34 PM (ZGrMX)

Incisive piece. He nails it as no one has.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2021 02:46 PM (H8QX8)

378 347 Ian S.
Codevilla article in American Greatness is heavy on Trump blame but light on the blame from others. Codevilla, as a creature of Congress actually muffed his analysis because the corruption is actually centered on Congress-specifically the foreign policy intel war side where the uniparty reigns.

Codevilla himself, was actually one of Moynihan's key staffers before he became an academic who helped write the original FISA law. In a way he is similar to VDH, most of the remaining academics tongues are tied by what is required for a restoration and that any such actions have a high chance for failure. So they kvetch on the side. That is why they are great at ascribing fault but not so good about providing what path the Resistance must take in the future.

Posted by: whig at July 09, 2021 02:49 PM (pO7gM)

379 He dismissed the "ballot conspiracies" far, far too quickly. He summarized a mountain of intentional fraud and criminality across multiple organizations to a single end (get Trump), but stops short of saying they'd do the same for voting (all while also listing another mountain of election-related scams).

The ballot is where the rubber meets the road; if Trump had Putin hack voting machines in 20216, YOU'D KNOW ALL ABOUT IT. Barry did a press conference on this himself in Nov. 2020, waving people off of that track. They went down the collusion rabbit hole to distract Dems from seeking audits in 2016. Yet today, anyone that breathes a word of that re 2020 is silenced or ridiculed as a tin foil hatter, EXACTLY AS THEY DID TO US IN 2016 WITH COLLUSION. They always, always always accuse you of what they are doing.

Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, J.D. at July 09, 2021 02:49 PM (i6shs)

380 13. Yep.

Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, J.D. at July 09, 2021 02:50 PM (i6shs)

381 There is absolute evidence the election was stolen. If the Democrats had actually won the election on the level, they would welcome audits, recounts, etc. Instead, they squeal like stuck pigs when anyone even questions what happened. Consciousness of guilt in action.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 09, 2021 02:51 PM (FwZ/n)

382 Codevilla himself, was actually one of Moynihan's key staffers before he became an academic who helped write the original FISA law.
Posted by: whig at July 09, 2021 02:49 PM (pO7gM)

I'm not sure it matters who he was or his. His litany of facts of Trump's actions and inactions are there to see.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2021 02:51 PM (H8QX8)

383 For example, Codevilla does not mention one damn word about the generals who debased themselves in the Trump WH, the NatSec apparatus including the IG that were totally corrupt in both pushing the Russia gate and the later Ukraine embarrassment. The Secs of Defense, both Mattis and Esper and undersecretaries. The FBI, the DOJ, both appointees and career staff, etc.

And a McConnell that blocked any Trump appointments via refusing to recess which is unprecedented and McConnell and the Senate including Republicans, and the House, led by traitor Paul Ryan purposefully prevented any oversight of these actions. Codevilla put the blame on Trump and he in fact knows better being a former staffer of Congress. Effectively in key departments, Trump could not fire appointees much for disloyalty or be charged with obstruction. Even if Trump survived that, he would not be able to put loyal people into place because Mitch the Bitch would not allow it--no recess appointments and in that case, the leftists career staff that was even more Trump haters would actually run the agencies.

Posted by: whig at July 09, 2021 02:56 PM (pO7gM)

384 382 And I am telling you that Codevilla is giving you purposefully half of the story. Nothing in his article discusses how the uniparty on Capitol Hill purposefully betrayed him and left him with few choices on personnel. He was purposefully fed traitors in waiting because of the Dems and Republicans in office and in the pools of potential appointees.

Codevilla also does not tell you that the FBI and Nat. Sec. apparatus controls who gets security clearances either which is absolutely necessary for employment. Even Kushner was locked out over a security clearance kerfluffle for a bit.

Posted by: whig at July 09, 2021 02:59 PM (pO7gM)

385 For example, Codevilla does not mention one damn word about the generals who debased themselves in the Trump WH, the NatSec apparatus including the IG that were totally corrupt in both pushing the Russia gate and the later Ukraine embarrassment. The Secs of Defense, both Mattis and Esper and undersecretaries. The FBI, the DOJ, both appointees and career staff, etc.

That's not right, though. Codevilla explicitly says one of Trump's failures was not cleaning house at FBI/DOJ/CIA.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 09, 2021 03:00 PM (ZGrMX)

386 Comment #46... me too. President Trimp has NOT supported the imprisonment of the Jan 6 protesters enough, hardly at all. They would not have been there if not for his call.
The least he could have done is supply lawyers, real lawyers and money...

Posted by: Gonzotx at July 09, 2021 03:06 PM (9+l4S)

387 I mean people l, Jan 6 protesters, are stuck with Public defenders for God sakes.. public defenders who are making them cleanse their souls and admit to white supremacy, NOT representing them in the least part.

Posted by: Gonzotx at July 09, 2021 03:07 PM (9+l4S)

388 Posted by: flounder at July 09, 2021 01:48 PM (KnJdm)

If the dude in that Twitter thread was serious about explaining how Trump was robbed, all he had to do was to point to Peter Navarro's report in which he explains the fraud happened at multiple levels, like a pincer movement. It was many things, and ballot tampering was definitely one of them.

The way he premised the story is this: "conspiracy theorists told Trump supporters the election was stolen".

Posted by: Blablabla at July 09, 2021 01:57 PM (OwEqz)

**************
OK, OK, we get it: He didn't write it as well as you would have written it. If you had written it.

Which you didn't.

Posted by: EXTERMINATE! at July 09, 2021 03:12 PM (hbrUW)

389 Actually cleaning up Civil Service is very easy and fast to do. 1. Issue a direct order to an agency - that Civil Service types don't like, as contrary to their politics. 2. Analyze the agency's response to the order. 3. Transfer everyone in the chain of command who stonewalled the order to Dead Skunk New Mexico - etc. 3. Accept the resignation of those who refuse the transfer. Rinse Lather and Repeat steps 1..3 until morale improves.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 09, 2021 03:15 PM (FwZ/n)

390 Unilaterally move the entire department to Fargo, ND. Those that refuse to go, I'll gladly accept your resignation.

Fargo is a nice place. Maybe Christmas Island. Food flown in every four days.

Posted by: free tibet at July 09, 2021 03:15 PM (vOGqy)

391 Everyone knows what needs to be done. It's option 1 or option 2......or both.

I don't think I need to explain.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 09, 2021 03:20 PM (Fs5vw)

392 The thing is the GOP fucked Trump as well and you know what? some of you, a lot of you, will vote for those fuckers AGAIN!!! Trump will continue eating himself up which is a waste of a leader. Why waste your freakin breathe on a subject that WILL NOT CHANGE regardless of how much truth you lather on it. Am I right? Damn straight I am. No one, not the SCOTUS, Governors, Senators, Congressman will do anything to change what happened in the Presidential election of 2020. So it will only be us and we need to make the difference next election. So instead of the freakin griping all the time, by the end of this year I hope there will be some very positive writings and talks and plans and schemes as to how to deal with NOT having fraud at the polls/mail in 2024 and electing a worth while president again.

Posted by: sidney at July 09, 2021 03:24 PM (+fjIe)

393 281 "Are we supposed to continue obeying the laws? Paying taxes? Signing up to die in countries the Ruling Class chooses for us?"

Voting?
Posted by: f'd at July 09, 2021 02:21 PM (Tnijr)

If you're not willing to make any sacrifices for the republic or your freedom, then voting is all you got.

And the dems/communists know this.

They know you won't do anything but vote.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 09, 2021 03:30 PM (Fs5vw)

394 I just tried posting on hee and it said it was spam. How do i post a longer message on here?

Posted by: not spam at July 09, 2021 03:48 PM (OvVye)

395 I don't know how many of you were awake at 1am pacific time on weds morning the day after the election. But I was. I saw in real time, the election being stolen. The states in question were at 99% done and at around 2-3 am central time, (when most people were asleep) that's when everything went into motion.
To most people it's a "theory" pushed by tv people, because they weren't awake when the Op happened. But for me, its not a theory, I saw it happen via a web site changing the numbers in real time.

Election integrity laws being passed? Please. People have to stand up to the left mob and they won't do that.

Posted by: saw it happen at July 09, 2021 03:55 PM (OvVye)

396 304 I think this also explains the Qtards. They just can't face reality so they are clinging to this ridiculous notion that Trump and the Military are still secretly in power and playing 5d chess and all will be revealed in good time (as soon as they finish blowing up the child trafficking tunnels and hanging at the traitors at gitmo)
Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (BNMel)

That's my BIL.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2021 02:25 PM (mR6Gs)

Unfortunately, it's my husband.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 04:10 PM (BNMel)

397 346 I think this also explains the Qtards.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 02:22 PM (BNMel)

It's a shit shame, because these people would be good to have on our side. But they fell for the psyops hook line and sinker. This is why nothing has happened, too many believe in "the plan" and it's all going according to schedule. The crap they post is mind numbing. Truly chasing their own tails and popping down rabbit hole after rabbit hole.

Drawing lines and arrows from times and dates and words that Q posted to other posts by people PROVING the plan is in action. Look! Q posted at 13:04! And he says "red!" and "travel". And here, look! Flynn has a red tie, is standing next to a plane - and it's 04/13!!! Coincidence?!!? I THINK NOT!!!
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 09, 2021 02:34 PM (wAnMi)

Makes me sick to my stomach.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 04:12 PM (BNMel)

398 394 I just tried posting on hee and it said it was spam. How do i post a longer message on here?
Posted by: not spam at July 09, 2021 03:48 PM (OvVye)

That has happened to me twice - I had to delete part of my copy/paste.

The bots must think I sell Lace Wigs or something.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue says the election was stolen by commie rat bastards at July 09, 2021 04:14 PM (BNMel)

399 Whenever I saw a q post retweeted anywhere, it always reminded me of reading a fortune cookie. Never took any of it seriously, but thats all of twitter, really.

Posted by: saw it happen at July 09, 2021 04:15 PM (OvVye)

400 Glen Greenwald linked this on his twitter account. It's amazing to read the comments it generated. All the leftists sounded scary critiqueing the thread, talking about how the thread ignores the 'real truth', which is that the Trump voters 'they know' are motivated by racism and hate and fear about non-whites taking over America. And also, that the Russian collusion case WAS proven. Scary stuff. These people are certifiably nuts.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at July 09, 2021 04:49 PM (GMR0L)

401 Begin building uncensorable blockchain-based alternatives to all online media and banking, which we could all be using by 2024 if we worked at it, 2028 at the latest. No more GoDaddy, use blockchain-based domains and addresses. No more Dropbox or Amazon Web Services, use Filecoin or Storj. No more Gmail. Develop blockchain based alternatives to FB or Twitter or Instagram. Eventually we will need an open source hardware alternatives for mobile phones. And telcos who get into the censorship business can be countered with blockchain based 5G alternatives. Assume that all major banks and credit card companies will cancel millions of accounts if we vote or worship wrong. We can build blockchain-based payments alternatives in addition to what is already out there.

It's time.

Posted by: mercury at July 09, 2021 05:04 PM (TGcoT)

402 "Not a single person has gone to jail."

A lot of my friends are in jail. For the crime of not being filthy subhuman communists.

This will end in blood.

Posted by: ccoffer at July 09, 2021 05:52 PM (/LM9B)

403 MartyrMade Twitter Thread

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This is the cliff notes version of what the Fascists-Maoist-Marxist UniParty backed up by a lying media, deep state hit squads, black skinny jean murder mobs in waiting and a pack of grey people that pretend to be a loyal opposition did the entire time President Trump was running for office and running the country.

And now these same bastards expect any one with more than one brain cell to shut up when challenging the actual big lie that the hand puppet in the White House got there in a honest election. And then there are the small matters that these same assholes are tossing open the borders, bankrupting the country, burring the county to the ground, locking up people for protesting the country being stolen and for extra credit being spied on; the gall of these racist serfs.

It is spot on.

Posted by: Lost In per at July 09, 2021 07:59 PM (ESLBo)

404 Red states will soon seriously consider secession.

Posted by: Random thought generator at July 09, 2021 08:22 PM (EIz7d)

405 "It's a fact, according to Time Magazine, that mass riots were planned in cities across the country if Trump won. Sure, they were "protests", but they were planned by the same people as during the summer, and everyone knows what it would have meant. Judges have families, too."

i thought that was what machine guns were for

Posted by: ontoiran at July 10, 2021 09:04 AM (14gtL)

406 It bears repeating that through all of 2018-early 2020, before COVID, the NEA and Red For ED radicals were organizing a National strike of our public schools before the 2020 November election.
This shows how radical the Education establishment was BEFORE COVID.
Getting rid of an elected President, Donald Trump, was the justification for this non-profit association to shut down our students' access to learning.
.COVID shut that effort down. The teachers were sent home, and there were no classes to strike or students to harass. So they went silent and put their efforts behind the 2020 fraud instead.

The rest is history, so they say.

Posted by: steveaz at July 10, 2021 10:36 AM (DpeFw)

407 Our elected officials represent the elites and special interests of America. The ordinary citizen exists to provide financial support through slavery-what else can the tax system be described as? Time to burn it down, hang the swampies and make sure this never happens again.

As for the progressive Lefturds, send them to Cuba on leaky ships. Then sink them. Oops, my bad.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at July 10, 2021 06:57 PM (EcD5Y)

408 If the worst problem were that none of the bad guys in Congress or the bureaucracy went to jail, that would be more or less expected. Evil, but not unexpected.

The real outrage is that they've falsely charged a lot of peaceful protesters with insurrection and still hold them in solitary confinement, in many cases under torture, in order to rob them of their political rights. While the real insurrectionists, the terrorist thugs who have been constantly pillaging, looting, burning, and murdering in our major cities in the name of racial "equity" which everyone knows is a lie -- go scot-free because Soros paid to have crooked prosecutors put in place to enable them.

This is already a civil war. If our side doesn't start shooting back now, we might as well all get ourselves gelded and have done.

Posted by: jdgalt1 at July 11, 2021 12:39 AM (3SFo/)

409 You actually make it seem so easy with your presentation but I find this
topic to be really something which I think I would never understand.
It seems too complicated and very broad for me. I'm looking forward for your next post, I'll try to get the hang of it!

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