The Supreme Court Ducks Another Foundational Issue By Claiming Obamacare Litigants Have No Standing to Sue

The Supreme Court has permitted Obamacare to stand, not by ruling on it by the merits, but by disqualifying a lawsuit filed against it by claiming the litigants had no standing to sue as they incurred no concrete harm.

The suit argued -- correctly -- that the only rationale that Bush-appointed liberal Chief Justice Roberts had given to claim that Obamacare was Constitutional was that the entire bill was a "tax," owing to the presence of the individual mandate, and that the power of the federal government to lay taxes as it pleases was nigh-plenary.

But then later, the individual mandate was repealed. Leaving Obamacare naked of the one provision that was risibly claimed to render it constitutional instead of plainly unconstitutional.

Makes sense.

But the bravehearts of the Supreme Court chose to duck the issue by saying that they could not reach the merits of the suit, as the litigants themselves suffered no harm by the repeal of the individual mandate, and thus could not file a lawsuit challenging Obamacare.

One actual conservative -- Justice Thomas -- endorsed this perverse logic, agreeing that the states suffered no concrete harm, and so were litigants without a basis upon which to sue.

Though he did blast Obamacare -- and the Court, for doing all in its power to "the court has gone to great lengths to rescue the Act from its own text."

Alito, joined by Gorsuch, dissented, finding that Obamacare is indeed unconstitutional, writing this "third installment in our epic Affordable Care Act trilogy" uses the pretext of a repealed "tax that does not tax to stand and support one of the biggest Government programs in our Nation's history."

Alito also found that the litigants -- here, the states -- did indeed suffer a concrete enough harm to permit them standing to appear in court.


The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the Affordable Care Act on the basis that Texas and several other states lacked standing to file a 2018 lawsuit challenging the individual mandate as unenforceable and therefore necessitating the wholesale destruction of Obamacare on the basis of an unforgiving severability analysis.


In a lengthy dissent exactly twice as many pages long as the comparatively brief and tidy majority opinion, conservative Justice Samuel Alito -- joined by Justice Neil Gorsuch -- said that his peers have essentially ignored decades of precedent to issue a "remarkable" and "contrary" holding that is "based on a fundamental distortion of our standing jurisprudence."

"The States have clearly shown that they suffer concrete and particularized financial injuries that are traceable to conduct of the Federal Government," the dissent argues, endorsing a liberal interpretation of standing. "The ACA saddles them with expensive and burdensome obligations, and those obligations are enforced by the Federal Government. That is sufficient to establish standing."

Not so, says the majority.

"Unsurprisingly, the States have not demonstrated that an unenforceable mandate will cause their residents to enroll in valuable benefits programs that they would otherwise forgo," liberal Justice Stephen Breyer writes. "It would require far stronger evidence than the States have offered here to support their counterintuitive theory of standing, which rests on a 'highly attenuated chain of possibilities.'"

If you see the sleight-of-hand that Breyer is pulling there: He says the states suffer no harm due to the non-enforceability of the mandate itself, and therefore the states have no standing to sue.

Gorusch and Alito say that the relevant question is if the Act itself causes harm to the states, which it inarguably does -- in a legal sense, at any rate.

And so then of course, they should have the right to sue.

The majority says the mandate, which is now effectively dead letter, inflicts no harm.

The dissent notes that the real question is whether the Act inflicts harm-- which it does. So the question should be reached, and Obamacare should be overturned.

But the majority -- alas, including Kavanaugh and Barrett, as well as Thomas -- focus just on the mandate, when the suit itself is whether Obamacare is still constitutional given that the figleaf "tax" which propped it up as constitutional is no longer in operation.


Just vote harder, guys.

And Build Your Own Supreme Court.

Posted by: Ace at 05:40 PM




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1 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 17, 2021 04:42 PM (V6f9+)

2 No standing.
Where have I heard that before?

Posted by: Drc at June 17, 2021 04:42 PM (vbaSG)

3 Also, did you know you can slow down playback on YouTube videos?

Did you know this video REALLY is worth watching in slow mo with the sound off?

https://youtu.be/faI17QzpCt8

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 17, 2021 04:42 PM (V6f9+)

4 I guess now we know what was horse traded for that 9-0 vote on immigration standing a week or so ago.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2021 04:44 PM (eoQWY)

5 Amy Comey Jarrett

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:44 PM (uEbPt)

6
how many guns and soldiers does SCOTUS have?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at June 17, 2021 04:44 PM (bTQ72)

7 America has no standing.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2021 04:45 PM (63Dwl)

8 so Amy is just kind of dumb, huh?

yeah well

I coulda toldya

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 17, 2021 04:45 PM (j9HX3)

9 I'll say this, of all the cases against ObamaCare, I thought this one was the weakest.

Roberts fucked up at least 2 SOLID cases that should have destroyed ObamaCare, this one always was a sloppy second.

But its clear to me, the "conservative" SC is just going to take a knee on any tough case where a conservative victory might happen.

Funny the Left NEVER seems to have these problems when finding standing to push their causes.

Posted by: Blago at June 17, 2021 04:46 PM (PwNLq)

10 Lost my ability to afford insurance and became a criminal for not having it...but I doubt I have standing.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (Z/gN4)

11 You let them put on a robe and this is what you get.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (guGkK)

12 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 17, 2021 04:42 PM (V6f9+)

Since ace isn't precious about his threads I will use this space to note that Dolly Parton's Jolene when slowed to 33rpm holds up in an almost surreal way:

http://tinyurl.com/hfwvve2s

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (uEbPt)

13 And, on topic, all of the first three boxes have failed.

We are in the land of the wolves, whether you hear the howls or not.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (V6f9+)

14
the US govermnent seems to working as a one way valve

Posted by: will choose a nic later at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (bTQ72)

15 Even better, SCROTUS ruled today that corporations in the US can use child slave labor overseas with impunity. The child slaves in Nestle's Mali cocoa plantations had no standing either.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado - Tempus belli) at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (N3El/)

16 Does. the Government have standing to take my Tax Dollars?

The current US Government seems to be illegitimate.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2021 04:48 PM (u82oZ)

17 Clarence you disappoint me .

Posted by: Just a side note at June 17, 2021 04:48 PM (2DOZq)

18 What about the coverage mandates in the act? They harm anyone who buys insurance. especially states under Medicaid and private employers under ERISA. Not to mention the costs of ACA reporting requirements for employers (and employees) as the IRS wants the reports, penalty or no.

Life term jackasses.

Posted by: henry at June 17, 2021 04:48 PM (O5by/)

19 So if i have no standing, can i start day drinking? Got the mixings for sidecars all set to go.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 04:48 PM (axyOa)

20 Seriously I would like to hear why Thomas voted as he did.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 17, 2021 04:49 PM (2DOZq)

21 That's not the only issue that's being avoided.

There was also a 9-0 decision in Fulton vs. City of Philadelphia in which Catholic Social Services won against the City of Philadelphia on Free Exercise grounds that Philadelphia cannot refuse to contract with CSS because CSS doesn't take same sex couples as potential foster parents. Huge religious rights win, right?

Sort of. It's 9-0 with six justices joining Roberts opinion, which is a pure attempt to avoid having to address Free Speech and the Smith decision, and Alito issuing a 70 odd page concurrence just annihilating Roberts and Gorsuch also issuing a concurrence where he point blank calls out Roberts because the case was supposed to address Smith and Free Speech.

Roberts is doing absolutely everything possible to prevent there from being a direct ruling on Smith. Thomas and now Gorsuch have pointed out that such a ruling is inevitable.

It's cowardice, plain and simple, by Roberts.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 04:49 PM (GbPPJ)

22 No standing!

Posted by: CJ Roberts, in removing the men's room urinals at June 17, 2021 04:49 PM (DMUuz)

23 Baseball Crank says that Dems who said Barrett was going to overturn Obamacare can now apologize. That's his retarded thinking, not that we lost but that we can now hang with the cool kids.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 17, 2021 04:49 PM (k8EUL)

24 Land of the sitting, home of the moot

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:49 PM (uEbPt)

25 >>The child slaves in Nestle's Mali cocoa plantations had no standing either.


They should be rolling Bidis with their feet, anyway.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2021 04:49 PM (PhiHs)

26 Baseball Crank says that Dems who said Barrett was going to overturn Obamacare can now apologize.
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Yeah they'll get right on that.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:50 PM (uEbPt)

27 I guess I'm still completely lost on Obumbles "Care": If there's no individual mandate, isn't this just an unfunded social program, with no constituents? I mean, they were banking on forcing the young/healthy to fund it with the barrel of a gun. Absent that, the feds just keep pulling money out of their ass? I thought even "they" had to have some kind of budget or paper trail on where the funding (debt) came from.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 17, 2021 04:50 PM (7Fj9P)

28 If it's a tax every person in the country is scewed by it and has standing.
I just getting standing concept and take it it's just a big dodge to not look at the case.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2021 04:50 PM (Cxk7w)

29 Should be called the Immortable Care Act.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:50 PM (uEbPt)

30 Coverage mandates include first dollar contraception, sex change drugs and surgery, etc. why must I pay for this crap?

Posted by: henry at June 17, 2021 04:50 PM (O5by/)

31 Build Your Own Supreme Court.

Challenge accepted.

Posted by: Two Weeks at June 17, 2021 04:50 PM (ELnqd)

32 Good. I hope every person who cried and whined about "health" insurance gets the Obama Care they deserve.

Good and hard.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2021 04:51 PM (McDW0)

33
Alternate post title:

Hey, Remember "Settled Law" and "Law of the Land?" They're Back!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 17, 2021 04:51 PM (+DCi9)

34 Since ace isn't precious about his threads I will use this space to note that Dolly Parton's Jolene when slowed to 33rpm holds up in an almost surreal way:

http://tinyurl.com/hfwvve2s
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (uEbPt)


This version is pretty good as well, IMHO.

https://youtu.be/ugqQlB5fpuc

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 04:51 PM (jOcSX)

35 I would like to freely contract for affordable catastrophic hospitalization insurance. I cannot. I am materially harmed.

Maybe I should be suing.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 17, 2021 04:51 PM (yQpMk)

36 Barrett: Wow, Trump really stuck his neck out to get me on the bench! I better become an unapologetic leftist so the left likes me.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2021 04:51 PM (psJgU)

37 Also a reminder, Smith was written by Scalia. Even the most brilliant get things wrong.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 04:51 PM (GbPPJ)

38 The Supreme Court Ducks Another Foundational Issue By Claiming Obamacare Litigants Have No Standing to Sue

I don't care what the eff it is, I want a hit from whichever drug laden bong these cock sucking black robe wearing assholes are smoking from.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 17, 2021 04:52 PM (VcFUs)

39 The states should defy it then - do not comply with it - when the federal governments sues - hey - instant standing!

What would baggy pants Roberts say then? You can be sued over a law that was already ruled can't harm you? A law that is actually unconstitutional on its merits?

Posted by: Boswell at June 17, 2021 04:52 PM (5iUNf)

40 So if i have no standing, can i start day drinking? Got the mixings for sidecars all set to go.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 04:48 PM


When you're ready for a real drink, we're ready for you.

Posted by: French 75s at June 17, 2021 04:52 PM (DMUuz)

41 Everybody's health insurance premiums went down 3000%, didn't it? Why is everybody unhappy with that?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 17, 2021 04:52 PM (HaL55)

42 It's cowardice, plain and simple, by Roberts.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 04:49 PM (GbPPJ)


Call him Chief Justice John "Taney" Roberts.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 04:52 PM (jOcSX)

43 Folks will be less disappointed when they quit projecting their own hopes on these fucks. Kav is the fat fuck that cried like a baby on national TV when describing his role on the high school yearbook. ACB is Karen with a smirk.

They ain't exactly Scalia.

Posted by: East of Omaha at June 17, 2021 04:52 PM (z/EVC)

44 The Democrats exist to expand the power and scope of government.
The Republicans exist to cement Democrat gains into permanence.

Posted by: Eat the Eloi at June 17, 2021 04:52 PM (BvNzB)

45 Fuck these black-robed faggitz.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at June 17, 2021 04:53 PM (II3Gr)

46 Well, you'll never go far wrong in figuring out how Roberts will vote on a case than by asking, "How mad will the WaPo editorial board with this decision?"

Because that's the only "legal" question that Roberts is really ever concerned with.

Posted by: Match Checksout at June 17, 2021 04:53 PM (dYe5S)

47 Thomas probably left guidance on the proper way to frame the lawsuit in his part of the opinion.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2021 04:53 PM (psJgU)

48 Ignorant, so forgive me... but why does there have to be "harm" shown if something is patently illegal? If Obamacare is "legal" then I can see where the SCOTUS is coming from.

I thot there was an argument made about the legality of Obamacare. In all honesty, IDGAF as it doesn't affect me.

Either way, I've got a fresh bottle of Bourbon and some Brauts and corn on the cob to grill. Not the Bourbon, just the food.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2021 04:53 PM (3H9h1)

49 Did not the Republicans run at one time on repealing this thing? But now we have mandated coverage but no penalty if you do not have insurance coverage? I have zero idea what Obamacare actually is at this point.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 17, 2021 04:54 PM (N13fp)

50 Since ace isn't precious about his threads I will use this space to note that Dolly Parton's Jolene when slowed to 33rpm holds up in an almost surreal way:

http://tinyurl.com/hfwvve2s
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (uEbPt)
***

Same for the Animals and The House of the Rising Sun. The opening chords just rock it.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 04:54 PM (axyOa)

51 Why it's almost as if our betters can do whatever they want to us, and ignore not only 'common' sense, but the written law itself.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2021 04:54 PM (Rvt88)

52 > But the majority -- alas, including Kavanaugh and Barrett, as well as Thomas -- focus just on the mandate, when the suit itself is whether Obamacare is still constitutional given that the figleaf "tax" which propped it up as constitutional is no longer in operation.

So the Roberts Uncertainty Principle has a third and fourth phase. It's a tax when he needs it to be, it's a mandate when he needs it to be, and it's operative when it needs to be, and it's inoperative when it needs to be.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2021 04:54 PM (YYlyE)

53 Wasn't there a rumor Alito might retire during Trump's second term? I can only image what we would have got for his replacement.

I don't know why the Dems vilified Trump's SC picks. Overall, they have been quite conducive to many of the Left's goals. Probably worth a good chuckle by the patrons of any DC cocktail party.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at June 17, 2021 04:54 PM (TNyrE)

54 Did not the Republicans run at one time on repealing this thing?

Ahhh but for the maverick! Reached across the aisle to stick it up our ass.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2021 04:55 PM (psJgU)

55 It's cowardice, plain and simple, by Roberts.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 04:49 PM (GbPPJ)

Is it cowardice, or is he just another conveniently lefty asshole in right clothing?

I initially thought he may have been threatened or something when the original ruling came down, it was that much of a shock.

His comments since have proven however he's just another McCain Romney Bush Murcokeski shitbird.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:55 PM (uEbPt)

56 54 Did not the Republicans run at one time on repealing this thing?

Ahhh but for the maverick! Reached across the aisle to stick it up our ass.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2021 04:55 PM (psJgU)

And not even the goddamned common courtesy to give us a reacharound.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at June 17, 2021 04:55 PM (II3Gr)

57 Since ace isn't precious about his threads I will use this space to note that Dolly Parton's Jolene when slowed to 33rpm holds up in an almost surreal way:

http://tinyurl.com/hfwvve2s
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (uEbPt)

Perfect for Pride Month.

But no snark it's pretty damn good. I just change the pronouns in my head.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 17, 2021 04:55 PM (2DOZq)

58 I figured Barrett would be a disappointment, but considering other alternatives, eh, what ya gonna do? Maybe she will stand with us on something big one day.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2021 04:55 PM (r+sAi)

59 Hey Ace, I think "Mao- Curious" rolls off the tongue easier than "Maoist- Curious", in case you decide to keep using that phrase....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 17, 2021 04:56 PM (5AVMW)

60 Well, you'll never go far wrong in figuring out how Roberts will vote on a case than by asking, "How mad will the WaPo editorial board with this decision?"

Kinda'. Roberts knows one thing - the Supremes only have the power they are given. Same as any judge. Ignore the Supremes one time - make it stick - and the Supremes are done.

Obama understood this. So does Roberts.

Posted by: East of Omaha at June 17, 2021 04:56 PM (z/EVC)

61 19 So if i have no standing, can i start day drinking? Got the mixings for sidecars all set to go.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 04:48 PM (axyOa)

Dude? Seriously? I thought red legs never came off a good buzz? WTAF?

Being a duck hunter in good standing, I of course have been drinking since I came on duty at 0700.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 17, 2021 04:56 PM (VcFUs)

62 Maybe she will stand with us on something big one day.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2021 04:55 PM (r+sAi)

Someday never comes. CCR told us that years ago.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado - Tempus belli) at June 17, 2021 04:57 PM (N3El/)

63 And you quaintly thought badorangeman's appointments would matter!

Posted by: Commisar of Lysenko Justice and dirt that'd make J Edgar wet himself at June 17, 2021 04:57 PM (RWgie)

64 This only further reinforces the immutable law, that once's something is enacted it will never be stricken.

Fucking McCain, rot in hell you vile piece of shit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2021 04:57 PM (QlVtI)

65 America is on her last legs.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2021 04:57 PM (O+I8R)

66 Damn, I got willowed:

Theory: the Juneteenth holiday got pushed through so that the left can hagiograph the "lasting historical accomplishment" of Dementia Joe's semester in office.

I think he's gone very soon.

Posted by: Bert G at June 17, 2021 04:57 PM (EFETN)

67 Ignorant, so forgive me... but why does there have to be "harm" shown if something is patently illegal? If Obamacare is "legal" then I can see where the SCOTUS is coming from.

I thot there was an argument made about the legality of Obamacare. In all honesty, IDGAF as it doesn't affect me.

Either way, I've got a fresh bottle of Bourbon and some Brauts and corn on the cob to grill. Not the Bourbon, just the food.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2021 04:53 PM (3H9h1)


Courts do not make what are known as advisory decisions/opinions. The person suing must have a specific, individualized harm. I hate to say it because I loathe the use of standing to avoid decisions, but the individual plaintiffs had no standing. The mandate was repealed and thus the individuals would not have any harm to them.

I disagree utterly on standing by the states. The states are still being forced to comply with provisions of the ACA and that does cause specific harm.

The public policy reason for must have specific, personalized harm is to keep the courts from being clogged up by everyone suing because they don't like a political action.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 04:57 PM (GbPPJ)

68 I'd like to be on the Ace of Spades Supreme Court. I assume we'd get to choose our own Supreme Court names, mine would be Raven.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 17, 2021 04:57 PM (k8EUL)

69 Roberts is doing absolutely everything possible to prevent there from being a direct ruling on Smith.
What is the layman's version of Smith?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2021 04:58 PM (r+sAi)

70 Ahhh but for the maverick! Reached across the aisle to stick it up our ass.


Yep. Songbird's boney hand reaches up from the grave to give us the finger.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 17, 2021 04:58 PM (yQpMk)

71 Is it cowardice, or is he just another conveniently lefty asshole in right clothing?

I initially thought he may have been threatened or something when the original ruling came down, it was that much of a shock.

His comments since have proven however he's just another McCain Romney Bush Murcokeski shitbird.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:55 PM (uEbPt)


It's cowardice. His decisions are always tailored to avoid any big, controversial issues and instead focus on technicalities. In essence he keeps trying to throw this stuff back to the executive and legislative branches. Hence "it's a tax" or finding that Trump could add the citizenship question to the census, but he didn't do it in quite the correct way, etc. Roberts is trying to avoid another Roe v. Wade, but in doing so he's making a hash of the law. The irony is that he may very well bring about the chaos and violence which he wants to avoid.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 04:58 PM (jOcSX)

72 Someday never comes.

Someday = Steiner!

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 17, 2021 04:59 PM (RWgie)

73 I can't wait to vote at my next Federal Reserve meeting. Interest rates will be determined by T levels.
I literally just fixed our financial and credit system. You're welcome.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 17, 2021 04:59 PM (nHXZo)

74 I thought the supreme court was supposed to rule on whether or not a law comported with the 'constitution', but it seems they spend a lot of their time deciding who does or does not get access to justice


EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW is a lie

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 17, 2021 04:59 PM (iTXRQ)

75 I support Trump. But I believe Kavanaugh, and worse, Barret, will haunt us for years. The latter was purely an emotional pick and not based on her jurisprudence. We've been literally screwed by ever woman put on SCOTUS. He should have been more careful.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2021 04:59 PM (LcEaB)

76 65 America is on her last legs.
Posted by: Lady in Black

America fell. this is Byzantium America

Posted by: x at June 17, 2021 05:00 PM (oA+QO)

77 There was NO reason for Roberts to say there is no such thing as a Bush judge or an Obama judge. NONE. Cowardice doesn't explain that statement, nor does holding up the integrity of the Court, nor does plain old Trump derangement.

It's a falsehood that literally every single person on the planet, including him, knows is false. That's not how you project integrity.

No, he's just another happily compensated lying mealy-mouthed State-expanding lefty shitbird.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 05:00 PM (uEbPt)

78 Fucking McCain, rot in hell you vile piece of shit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I'm no expert, but I understand the evil one torments one to the best of his abilities, and they are legion, when in hell - and is not left alone to simply rot.

I find comfort in this.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2021 05:00 PM (Rvt88)

79 Why does Megan McCain now look like John McCain wearing lipstick? Has it always been that way?

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 17, 2021 05:00 PM (5AVMW)

80 >>> Since ace isn't precious about his threads I will use this space to note that Dolly Parton's Jolene when slowed to 33rpm holds up in an almost surreal way:

http://tinyurl.com/hfwvve2s
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (uEbPt)

This version is pretty good as well, IMHO.

https://youtu.be/ugqQlB5fpuc
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 04:51 PM (jOcSX)


When you take a 33 of Springsteen's I'm On Fire and play it at 45 it sounds just like Dolly. I remember kids doing this on the record players when the song first came out. No way was I allowed to touch the family stereo set so I had to wait until I had my own.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 17, 2021 05:00 PM (+BMD8)

81 Let's face it, like States -- the US Constitution no longer has standing.

Posted by: ShainS at June 17, 2021 05:00 PM (DlT8P)

82
62 Maybe she will stand with us on something big one day.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2021 04:55 PM (r+sAi)

Two weeks......

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 17, 2021 05:00 PM (xXx5y)

83 So if i have no standing, can i start day drinking? Got the mixings for sidecars all set to go.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 04:48 PM

Only here, on AOSHQD, does anyone know how to build a decent sidecar (the drink, not the attachment to a motorbike where you are required to where a helmet with a spike).

Someone on Insty once commented that all the commenters here are over 65 and in wheelchairs...not quite, but the youngsters over at other sites could use a little knowledge, and being able to make a good sidecar, or decent Manhattan, wouldn't hurt them none.

Posted by: Boswell at June 17, 2021 05:00 PM (5iUNf)

84 Regardless of what my critics say, I remain both arch and staunch.

Posted by: Amy Coneydog Barrett at June 17, 2021 05:00 PM (sWM8x)

85 Kinda'. Roberts knows one thing - the Supremes only have the power they are given. Same as any judge. Ignore the Supremes one time - make it stick - and the Supremes are done.

Obama understood this. So does Roberts.
Posted by: East of Omaha at June 17, 2021 04:56 PM (z/EVC)


The legislature could simply strip SCOTUS of much of its appellate jurisdiction if they wanted to. They've done it in the past regarding specific laws. They don't because that would push the responsibility onto them for when the courts are clogged up with contradictory rulings and uncertainties.

Basically politics has become a game of hot potato, where everyone keeps trying to shift responsibility for decisions to someone else.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:00 PM (jOcSX)

86 The Statue of Liberty ist kaput!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 17, 2021 05:01 PM (yQpMk)

87 Supreme Court names, mine would be Roy Bean.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 17, 2021 05:01 PM (RWgie)

88 This is a better outcome than I expected. The SC said that the ACA is only valid because the penalty is a tax. Congress said, okay, we are going to keep the ACA and drop the penalty.

If the SC found that that makes the ACA unconstitutional, striking the ACA means striking two laws. Just striking the lack of penalty would only strike one law. So that’s what I was worried about.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2021 05:01 PM (CX3cf)

89 I got a phat book deal.

Cry harder.

Posted by: ACB at June 17, 2021 05:01 PM (9wasZ)

90
Clarence you disappoint me .
Posted by: Just a side note


At least he saved George Bailey.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2021 05:01 PM (63Dwl)

91 Dude? Seriously? I thought red legs never came off a good buzz? WTAF?

Being a duck hunter in good standing, I of course have been drinking since I came on duty at 0700.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 17, 2021 04:56 PM (VcFUs)

Well. I did OBC at Ft Sill as I was detailed from MI. So with a career in MI, I am used to champagne for lunch, beer in the afternoon and cocktails at 4. You know, bringing dignity to what might otherwise be an unruly mob.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:01 PM (axyOa)

92 Congress can pass any law they want as long as nobody is harmed by it directly. Constitution be damned.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2021 05:01 PM (psJgU)

93 On the other hand, the Supreme Court ruled that RC adoption agencies have a 2nd amendment right to refuse adoption to LBGT couples. Surely, there are many adoption agencies that will allow gay couples to adopt?. It seems to me that if you are LBGT and are going to a RC adoption agency it's because you want to engage in lawfare.

Oh, BTW, Jack Phillips is now being sued for not wanting to make a cake celebrating a gender reassignment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM (k39e/)

94 These supremes just to need to 'STOP! In The Name Of Love!'

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM (0OP+5)

95 Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2021 04:59 PM (LcEaB)

Gorsuch has had his own suckage too.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM (2DOZq)

96 Maybe it IS time for a Jacksonian attitude towards the Nine.... who, above all things... SEEK POWER...

Posted by: kraken at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM (6Je/Q)

97 Robin Williams' Elmer Fudd > Springsteen

Posted by: ShainS at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM (DlT8P)

98 He should have been more careful.

Credentialism. Trump saw credentials. If I ever hit the Lotto and need a chief of staff - won't be The Don.

Posted by: East of Omaha at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM (z/EVC)

99 Well. I did OBC at Ft Sill as I was detailed from MI. So with a career in MI, I am used to champagne for lunch, beer in the afternoon and cocktails at 4. You know, bringing dignity to what might otherwise be an unruly mob.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:01 PM (axyOa)


Gotta if you want to deal with the undiagnosed aspies in the MI branch...

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM (jOcSX)

100 The Right needs to reboot the idea of doing everything to avoid judicial activism.

It has just been handing victories to the Left for several generations.

I want a conservative, judicial activist as a judge.

Posted by: Blago at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM (PwNLq)

101
How about something more uplifiting?
This is a feel-good vid from a couple of years ago:

Is she the Perfect Wife or Perfect Neighbor? Maybe both.

https://youtu.be/pt32qrpQDYw

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 17, 2021 05:03 PM (+DCi9)

102 76 65 America is on her last legs.
Posted by: Lady in Black

America fell. this is Byzantium America

--

I'll certainly apply this as true if the states (our only remaining hope) do not exercise their Constitutional rights and tell the out of control federal gov't to pound sand. It's time to break away. It's time.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2021 05:03 PM (O+I8R)

103 On the other hand, the Supreme Court ruled that RC adoption agencies have a 2nd amendment right to refuse adoption to LBGT couples.

The 2A is more useful than I thought!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (psJgU)

104 If I am to be ruled by an unelected old man, I prefer a Caesar to a Roberts.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (yQpMk)

105 1850 feet per second doesn't care if you wear a robe.

Posted by: AceOfPhrase at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (8DR0c)

106 On the other hand, the Supreme Court ruled that RC adoption agencies have a 2nd amendment right to refuse adoption to LBGT couples.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM



They get to shoot them?

Posted by: Bert G at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (EFETN)

107 I guess this is a stupid question but if the litigants don't have standing, how does a case not get thrown out long before it reaches the SCROTUS?

Or is it that the "no standing" argument was given at many other levels on its way up?

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (uEbPt)

108 Since ace isn't precious about his threads I will use this space to note that Dolly Parton's Jolene when slowed to 33rpm holds up in an almost surreal way:

http://tinyurl.com/hfwvve2s
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 04:47 PM (uEbPt)

-----
Great sounding song, but I think it has been monkeyed with. I tried speeding the playback up and it doesn't sound like her. Then I looked up a regular version of Jolene and slowed it down. Not close. I'd say it's doctored, but I have no standing.

That being said, I like your version as much as the original - it sounds great.

Posted by: 496 at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (U1eOr)

109 So RC agencies don't have to bake the baby?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (psJgU)

110 19 So if i have no standing, can i start day drinking? Got the mixings for sidecars all set to go.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2

Come to the dark side. We had bloody Mary's for breakfast.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (QOU0Y)

111
Do you like a happy ending? I do.
Also from a couple of years ago,
home invasion ends with 3 dead:

https://youtu.be/bAk0FNH7RS4

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 17, 2021 05:05 PM (+DCi9)

112 They get to shoot them?
Posted by: Bert G at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (EFETN)

Who are you talking about? The LBGT have a right to shoot people or the RC adoption agencies do?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:06 PM (k39e/)

113 Herb Tarlek dies at age 79. I'm gonna miss his colorful suits.

Posted by: dantesed at June 17, 2021 05:06 PM (88xKn)

114 What is the layman's version of Smith?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2021 04:58 PM (r+sAi)


Smith, which is a Scalia opinion, is that free expression of religion is not impacted by laws of general applicability.

This is the peyote case. Native American drug counsellors were fired because they used peyote during a religious ceremony. They filed for unemployment and were denied because drug use was a grounds for denial of benefits.

The ruling was that, in most circumstances, laws of general applicability that impact religious practices are not subject to the compelling interest test. The rational basis test should be used. That's a very low level test that is highly favorable to government actions.

It brought back the beliefs/actions distinction. The government cannot tell you what to believe but religiously based actions are not protected unless the law singles out religion.

I hate to say it about a Scalia opinion but this is nonsense on stilts. Beliefs are shown by actions. Bluntly (pun intended), the decision came out the way it did because it involved drugs and Scalia had a HUGE blind spot about drugs. Drugs bad, laws against them good.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 05:06 PM (GbPPJ)

115 Has anyone tried a Healthcare Sharing Ministry? It's an alternative carved out in the ACA law, basically Christian health insurance.

If my health insurance goes up much more, thinking of joining one. Most of the feedback has been positive, but obviously I would prefer "real" health insurance, but I'm too rich for any subsidy.

Posted by: Blago at June 17, 2021 05:06 PM (PwNLq)

116
Do you think it was a coincidence that Colorado "judge" decided that bakery case in the middle of June?

(It wasn't)

We live in a propaganda-driven police state.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 17, 2021 05:06 PM (+DCi9)

117 104 If I am to be ruled by an unelected old man, I prefer a Caesar to a Roberts.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (yQpMk)

You'd settle for Sulla. You'll get a Biden.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at June 17, 2021 05:06 PM (z5Vrg)

118 The interesting story about how Steve Ballmer went from zero equity in Microsoft to 8% equity.

https://bit.ly/35wLjwB

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2021 05:07 PM (YYlyE)

119 I can't wait to vote at my next Federal Reserve meeting. Interest rates will be determined by T levels.
I literally just fixed our financial and credit system. You're welcome.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 17, 2021 04:59 PM (nHXZo)

Thank you !

What's a T level ...and how do I avoid losing money when that happens?

Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2021 05:07 PM (Ed8Zd)

120 EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW is a lie
Posted by: DB- just DB at June 17, 2021 04:59 PM (iTXRQ)

Concur.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2021 05:07 PM (McDW0)

121 Posted by: 496 at June 17, 2021 05:04 PM (U1eOr)

I do remember speeding it up myself when I first heard it years ago and I thought it sounded legit. It may not have been the linked version however. In any case it's on the internet so it must be true.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2021 05:07 PM (uEbPt)

122 I guess this is a stupid question but if the litigants don't have standing, how does a case not get thrown out long before it reaches the SCROTUS?

Or is it that the "no standing" argument was given at many other levels on its way up?
Posted by: ...

I've wondered the same thing, if this really was the case, it should have been shot down a long time ago

Posted by: Blago at June 17, 2021 05:07 PM (PwNLq)

123 Who are you talking about? The LBGT have a right to shoot people or the RC adoption agencies do?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:06 PM


LOL, the RC adoption agencies...you know, the Second Amendment right the court cited.

Posted by: Bert G at June 17, 2021 05:08 PM (EFETN)

124 You'd settle for Sulla. You'll get a Biden.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at June 17, 2021 05:06 PM (z5Vrg)

You want Julius.
You'll settle for Vespasian.
You'll get Nero.

Posted by: Vanya, Hallucination at June 17, 2021 05:08 PM (gAFsE)

125 President Owlkitty

https://twitter.com/Owl__
Kitty/status/1323852311332966400/photo/1

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2021 05:08 PM (W2Pud)

126 I got the amendment wrong. Sorry; Freedom of religion amendment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:08 PM (k39e/)

127
eeen Russia, gay cakes bake you!

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at June 17, 2021 05:08 PM (+DCi9)

128 94 These supremes just to need to 'STOP! In The Name Of Love!'

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM (0OP+5)

------

Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney-Barrett ... "Where did our love go?"

Posted by: ShainS at June 17, 2021 05:08 PM (QrwYR)

129 Thanks ATC.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2021 05:09 PM (r+sAi)

130 I got the amendment wrong. Sorry; Freedom of religion amendment.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:08 PM


I knew what you meant, but I couldn't resist!

Posted by: Bert G at June 17, 2021 05:09 PM (EFETN)

131 And Build Your Own Supreme Court.

Another one, he means. Like we did.

Posted by: Facebook at June 17, 2021 05:09 PM (z36Kd)

132 Lots of mustard, no onions.

Posted by: Amy Coney-Dog at June 17, 2021 05:09 PM (W4eKo)

133 Is she the Perfect Wife or Perfect Neighbor? Maybe both.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales

Oh yes. Either. And both.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2021 05:10 PM (Rvt88)

134 111
Do you like a happy ending? I do.
Also from a couple of years ago,
home invasion ends with 3 dead:

------

The happy ending didn't end there!

https://tinyurl.com/tmwspn4b

Posted by: 496 at June 17, 2021 05:10 PM (U1eOr)

135 And Build Your Own Supreme Court.
with hookers. and blackjack.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at June 17, 2021 05:10 PM (sGtp+)

136 Has anyone tried a Healthcare Sharing Ministry? It's an alternative carved out in the ACA law, basically Christian health insurance.

I use Liberty HealthShare. I can’t vouch for them, as I’ve never had to use them. But it is much less expensive than insurance, although rising due to general rising health care costs.

And they do make having a Direct Primary Care provider much less expensive.

However, they do require a Christian lifestyle, which may not be compatible with an Ace of Spades lifestyle.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2021 05:10 PM (CX3cf)

137 This sucks but, and someone else pointed this out earlier today, it does not suck worse than the GOP controlling two houses and the white house and not getting it repealed.

Yeah yeah cloture. Screw cloture. My understanding is that cloture only hangs on the paper threat of filibuster. Go ahead and make them filibuster. Break the filibuster. Pass the bill.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2021 05:10 PM (ohOLP)

138 I'll certainly apply this as true if the states (our only remaining hope) do not exercise their Constitutional rights and tell the out of control federal gov't to pound sand. It's time to break away. It's time.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2021 05:03 PM (O+I8R)


How firm are you on that ? Because when certain states legalize pot - there is no lack of pissing and moaning here from some. Can a state tell the fed to piss up a rope ?

I think they can. But that means the fed can't use the bill of rights to stick their nose under the tent. As the Anti-Federalists warned. How republican are you willing to go ?

Posted by: East of Omaha at June 17, 2021 05:10 PM (z/EVC)

139 No standing!
Posted by: CJ Roberts


Count on it!

Posted by: Sitzpinkler Barry Obama at June 17, 2021 05:10 PM (z36Kd)

140 OT: There was another elderly Asian attack last night in SF. This time, the guy was out on bond with a fucking ankle bracelet. He's been charged with murder among other things. (!?!?)

But, even with his budding rap career, feeding the homeless and attending medical school, he found time to stab a 94 year old lady for looking at him. That's dedication to the community right there.

https://youtu.be/DYMOsShJ2xA

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 17, 2021 05:11 PM (wAnMi)

141 And I have to say I think all the folks bringing suit against Jack Phillips (I think it's mostly just one very angry transgender ) who keeps bringing suits is a nasty person. I think she's a lawyer for some agency in his state.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:11 PM (k39e/)

142 73 I can't wait to vote at my next Federal Reserve meeting. Interest rates will be determined by T levels.
I literally just fixed our financial and credit system. You're welcome.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 17, 2021 04:59 PM (nHXZo)

How do they measures the investor's testosterone?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at June 17, 2021 05:12 PM (z5Vrg)

143 On the other hand, the Supreme Court ruled that RC adoption agencies have a 2nd amendment right to refuse adoption to LBGT couples.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM


Not quite. The decision was that Philadelphia had no right to deny CSS from being a contractor for foster children placement based on CSS refusing to accept same sex couples as potential foster parents.

Look, it's a win, yes, but it was based on Roberts saying oh hey since the Commissioner had purely discretionary powers to grant exemptions that means it wasn't generally applicable and HAND WAVE HAND WAVE Smith doesn't apply and, no, we aren't going to address Smith even though that's why we took up the case in the first place.

As others have noted, Roberts is trying desperately to avoid having any major decisions be made while he's CJ.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 05:12 PM (GbPPJ)

144
Congress can pass any law they want as long as nobody is harmed by it directly. Constitution be damned.


NAFTA destroyed my career and cost me a mawwiage (which was a side benefit, so I'm not fussing too much about that part of it). I should be making about $100K a year right now as a toolmaker/machinist, but I'm sucking hind tit from SS beneath the poverty level.
I'm harmed. I have standing. And they'd laugh me out of the first court I appeared in.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 17, 2021 05:12 PM (HaL55)

145 Has anyone tried a Healthcare Sharing Ministry? It's an alternative carved out in the ACA law, basically Christian health insurance.

...

Yes, we used Samaritan for years, and if I start my own business again like I hope too, I'll use them again.

We didn't have to test it much so my experience doesn't speak to "do people actually send you their money". But it appeared to be run very well and my impression is that it's very reliable.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2021 05:12 PM (ohOLP)

146 It's cowardice, plain and simple, by Roberts.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 04:49 PM (GbPPJ)

Or the actions of a slave.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 17, 2021 05:12 PM (z79tQ)

147 Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 05:12 PM (GbPPJ)

Thanks for the correction. I was going by headline on he internet. Sorry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:13 PM (k39e/)

148 When will Roberts illegally adopted children reach majority?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 17, 2021 05:13 PM (yQpMk)

149 Did not the Republicans run at one time on repealing this thing? But now we have mandated coverage but no penalty if you do not have insurance coverage? ..
Posted by: Jen the original at June 17, 2021 04:54 PM (N13fp)

***

Not only that but the Republicans got a tiny little "Obamacare is hereby repealed in its entirety" bill to Obama's desk when they knew they could count on his veto.

Guess what they never voted on when the most conservative president since Coolidge was in office?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 17, 2021 05:14 PM (XTk1T)

150 Can't get fired up about this - it's a soft case. Roberts contorted the law like a pretzel in his Obamacare-saving ruling, which was his attempt to keep the court out of politics (by acting politically!) and that's the real problem.

This case going the other way would have been an activist move by the court to correct a prior poor decision. Even Thomas, who rails on about how the court needs to upend poorly decided precedent, didn't go for it on this one, because the case is weak sauce. If you use the definition of harm needed to have standing here, literally anything the Federal government does can be challenged.
Hmm, that sounds kinda good...but no. Not a good enough case.

Posted by: BetaPhi at June 17, 2021 05:15 PM (hGNrS)

151 Roberts has been a coward since day 1

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2021 05:15 PM (Cxk7w)

152 As others have noted, Roberts is trying desperately to avoid having any major decisions be made while he's CJ.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 05:12 PM (GbPPJ)


My question is, why he is doing that? Why try to go down in history as a complete non-entity of a CJ?

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 17, 2021 05:15 PM (5AVMW)

153 83 (the drink, not the attachment to a motorbike where you are required to where a helmet with a spike)
this is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: mRNA Vaccine at June 17, 2021 05:15 PM (sGtp+)

154 sorry, LBGT's aren't well regulated. at all. open fire, padre.

Posted by: x at June 17, 2021 05:15 PM (oA+QO)

155 I think they can. But that means the fed can't use the bill of rights to stick their nose under the tent. As the Anti-Federalists warned. How republican are you willing to go ?

--

To put it plainly, here's where I'm at. I'm ready for the big D. Divorce. Dissolve. The entire thing is rotten like a stinking fish from top to bottom and hopelessly corrupt. I believe there's no fixing it. I don't want to nibble around the edges of what states can and cannot do necessarily. We're too far gone.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2021 05:17 PM (O+I8R)

156 sorry, LBGT's aren't well regulated. at all. open fire, padre.
Posted by: x at June 17, 2021 05:15 PM (oA+QO)


I can buy a lesbian off the street without even a background check. Let's not even get into straw purchases of lesbians, or the infamous "sorority-house built" lesbians which don't even come with a serial number.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:17 PM (jOcSX)

157 Being a duck hunter in good standing, I of course have been drinking since I came on duty at 0700.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 17, 2021 04:56 PM (VcFUs)


Explains that two ship Mig overflight back in '77.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:17 PM (axyOa)

158 Don't give up, little guy!

https://bit.ly/3wCbGgB

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2021 05:17 PM (YYlyE)

159 You want the real Claudius.

You'll get the babbling idiot Claudius pretended to be to keep from being seen as a threat by his murderous family.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2021 05:17 PM (ePZFs)

160 136

I would have jumped on something like this a while ago, but afraid my wife will freak out.

I mean since Obamacare can't deny you on preexisting conditions, I figure if someone gets cancer, we can jump on to real health insurance and just work the system.

I don't really have a problem affording my current health insurance, but its getting close a mortgage payment being self employed.

Posted by: Blago at June 17, 2021 05:17 PM (PwNLq)

161 When will Roberts illegally adopted children reach majority?

I used to think there was something to this. No more. Roberts just loves that fucking court this much. He'll suck a dick on Main Street to save it. Thats all this is.

There are nine seats. And people care what they say. That's all Roberts cares about.

Posted by: East of Omaha at June 17, 2021 05:18 PM (z/EVC)

162 sorry, LBGT's aren't well regulated. at all. open fire, padre.
Posted by: x at June 17, 2021 05:15 PM (oA+QO)



Bring it, Next Tuesday.

I triple dog dare you.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 05:18 PM (GbPPJ)

163 This is the third lawsuit transgender Autumn Scardina has filed against Masterpiece Bakeshop. I'd say that she has a hard on for this guy but may have been officially snipped and not have a penis anymore.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:18 PM (k39e/)

164 Posted by: BetaPhi at June 17, 2021 05:15 PM (hGNrS)

Yes it's a standing issue that even Thomas couldn't agree with. After reading more I'm not as disappointed in Clarence as I was at the beginning.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 17, 2021 05:18 PM (2DOZq)

165 And I have to say I think all the folks bringing suit against Jack Phillips (I think it's mostly just one very angry transgender ) who keeps bringing suits is a nasty person. I think she's a lawyer for some agency in his state.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:11 PM (k39e/)

If its the same person / group, he should ask the court to have her/them declared a vexatious litigant. It would at least slow them down a bit.

Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2021 05:18 PM (Ed8Zd)

166 You want the real Claudius.

You'll get the babbling idiot Claudius pretended to be to keep from being seen as a threat by his murderous family.


I wish I did not understand that. Well done.

Posted by: kytten at June 17, 2021 05:18 PM (tjZg/)

167 Gotta if you want to deal with the undiagnosed aspies in the MI branch...
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:02 PM (jOcSX)


Heh. There were a few of us.
Oh. THEM!
A few of them!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:19 PM (axyOa)

168 I sincerely hope the absolute worst for Kavanaugh and Barrett, and possibly Gorsuch. F them all.

The first two obviously openly lied about their political affiliations so they could get on the court. Kavanaugh and Barrett are as bad as Roberts, if not worse.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 17, 2021 05:19 PM (bkUtD)

169 166 You want the real Claudius.

You'll get the babbling idiot Claudius pretended to be to keep from being seen as a threat by his murderous family.


I wish I did not understand that. Well done.
Posted by: kytten at June 17, 2021 05:18 PM (tjZg/)

Clearly you spend too much time doing things besides pressing f5 for firsts.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at June 17, 2021 05:19 PM (z5Vrg)

170 OT Gateway Pundit lies again in headline.

"Entire Portland Police Riot Squad Quits En Masse, As DA Begins Criminal Investigations Into Officers' Conduct"

They're still working for the police department. Stop lying for clicks, Hoft.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2021 05:20 PM (OssQ4)

171 152 As others have noted, Roberts is trying desperately to avoid having any major decisions be made while he's CJ.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 17, 2021 05:12 PM (GbPPJ)


My question is, why he is doing that? Why try to go down in history as a complete non-entity of a CJ?
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 17, 2021 05:15 PM (5AVMW)


My take is that he is a Moral Coward...

Posted by: kraken at June 17, 2021 05:20 PM (6Je/Q)

172 Heh. There were a few of us.
Oh. THEM!
A few of them!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:19 PM (axyOa)


Yeah, a few among us as well.

One of my peers at the MICCC back in 2010 kept talking about this weird thing called Bitcoin. I checked it out and thought, "nah, why buy something like this?"

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:20 PM (jOcSX)

173 In his opinion, Thomas noted that the plaintiffs' attorneys dropped the ball.

Posted by: junior at June 17, 2021 05:20 PM (eFc4x)

174 Oh, and eleven "Republican" Senators voted to join the bipartisan infrastructure plan. Don't bother looking it up, you know who sided with the Democrats.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 17, 2021 05:20 PM (bkUtD)

175 I'm ready for the big D.

Me too. It was a rhetorical question - not an at you question. I get ya'.

Posted by: East of Omaha at June 17, 2021 05:21 PM (z/EVC)

176 When will Roberts illegally adopted children reach majority?
Posted by: G'rump928

Trump should have pardoned him for that, just to torque him off.

Posted by: Jean at June 17, 2021 05:22 PM (Qsr61)

177 No waiting period on lesbians.

Legal to carry a lesbian either openly or concealed.

No restrictions on full auto, silenced, or short-barreled lesbians.

No regulation of large caliber lesbians as destructive devices.

Yep.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2021 05:22 PM (ePZFs)

178 Roberts... moral coward... Jack Philips, brave.

Posted by: kraken at June 17, 2021 05:22 PM (6Je/Q)

179 This is the third lawsuit transgender Autumn Scardina has filed against Masterpiece Bakeshop. I'd say that she has a hard on for this guy but may have been officially snipped and not have a penis anymore.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:18 PM (k39e/)

1. have her declared vexatious
2. While I admire Jack Phillips' honesty and fortitude, if it were me, I'd just say Im too busy or offer some excuse and refer them down the road to the Muslim-owned bakery.

Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2021 05:22 PM (Ed8Zd)

180 The tail at these DC Parties Roberts is afraid of not getting invited to must really be something.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2021 05:23 PM (PhiHs)

181 My question is, why he is doing that? Why try to go down in history as a complete non-entity of a CJ?
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 17, 2021 05:15 PM (5AVMW)


It's a problem with many "Conservatives" and with many of the political class in general: they are credentialed and know how to game the system to get ahead, but they don't actually have the intellectual skills or the self-discipline to take real risks. So they become obsessed with protecting the institutions.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:23 PM (jOcSX)

182 Oh, and eleven "Republican" Senators voted to join the bipartisan infrastructure plan. Don't bother looking it up, you know who sided with the Democrats.
___

Stand in line and vote harder!

It's your duty as an American.

Posted by: GOPe at June 17, 2021 05:23 PM (05IW8)

183 The game is rigged.

The act is only constitutional because of the "tax."

But repealing the "tax" makes it unchallengeable in court.

These asswipes have knowingly created a Catch 22 to take them off the hook of sh!tcanning this pile of garbage.

The truth is that the ONLY thing which decided the fate of Obamacare was not the law, or the Constitution, but merely the fact that our elites are embarrassed we don't have the government running and paying for our healthcare system like our foreign allies do. Everything else is pretense.

That is where their allegiance lays, and there is no one you can elect, and no challenge you can make that will ever change it. Elections exist only to mollify you and make you think you have some say in the matter, when really, everything is arranged so that the end result will be the same regardless of who you elect or who you appoint. Trump was the one exception to this, and that is why they will hound him until he is dead or in prison.

Biden let it slip when he said they don't need your vote. They all know it is rigged.

Posted by: Thatch at June 17, 2021 05:23 PM (qWceQ)

184
Explains that two ship Mig overflight back in '77.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:17 PM (axyOa)


They did have good IFF squawks...

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 17, 2021 05:23 PM (FplAd)

185 The chicom who defected was counter Intel, wonder if he knows the deal on all our dead spies.

Posted by: Jean at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (Qsr61)

186 No restrictions on full auto, silenced, or short-barreled lesbians.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Is there such a thing as a 'silenced' lesbian?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (Rvt88)

187 While I admire Jack Phillips' honesty and fortitude


Yep. Were it me, I would have started to consider the fact that there is no tort where there is no plaintiff.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (yQpMk)

188 So the penalty is gone. But there must be something still different insurance-wise because my insurance still sucks. I and everybody I know in the manufacturing/engineering world pretty much lost their insurance back during shit-midas's reign of error and we've never gotten it back.

Sure we have tax shelter health saving's plans and we have something called insurance which has crazy rules like "you pay everything until you reach 50 bazillion $$$$$ and then we'll pay some too" it all sucks. It doesn't seem much different from earlier catastrophic plans. No copays nothing. I assume this is never coming back. So why? Corps like the new rules? Or something still lurking within the bowels of zombie O'Care? I know it's stupid but the high cost is one of the reasons I haven't gone to a dr. in ages.

There are just so many damned places my money needs to go I'm just not that high on my own list.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (+BMD8)

189 No waiting period on lesbians.

Legal to carry a lesbian either openly or concealed.

No restrictions on full auto, silenced, or short-barreled lesbians.

No regulation of large caliber lesbians as destructive devices.

Yep.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2021 05:22 PM (ePZFs)


No five-day "cooling off period" before taking a lesbian home.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (jOcSX)

190 If its the same person / group, he should ask the court to have her/them declared a vexatious litigant. It would at least slow them down a bit.
Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2021 05:18 PM (Ed8Zd)

It is the same person, but since the town he lives in is near Denver I don't think the judges are too sympathetic.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (k39e/)

191 184
Explains that two ship Mig overflight back in '77.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:17 PM (axyOa)

They did have good IFF squawks...
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 17, 2021 05:23 PM (FplAd)

And the mess sergeant, Milo Minderbinder, was purchasing eggs from them.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (FplAd)

192 Cake shops apparently need to just offer a binder of cake decorating patterns they will do. Like tattoo parlors. Here's a book to look through. If you don't see it, we don't offer it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (O+I8R)

193 Fen said hard on. Heh.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (gUt1u)

194 Good thing I have zero trust in the credentialed class.

Otherwise, I'd be crestfallen.

Posted by: SMH at June 17, 2021 05:25 PM (bSk6g)

195 One of my peers at the MICCC back in 2010 kept talking about this weird thing called Bitcoin. I checked it out and thought, "nah, why buy something like this?"
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:20 PM (jOcSX)

I had a boss who's son was into it back then. I thought the same thing.
I was an intel weenie, not some money guy.
Sigh.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:25 PM (axyOa)

196 No "red flag" laws where the police can come and seize your lesbian without a warrant.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2021 05:26 PM (ePZFs)

197 No standing.
Where have I heard that before?
Posted by: Drc at June 17, 2021 04:42 PM (vbaSG)

Really.

Posted by: Gov. Abbott at June 17, 2021 05:26 PM (v0R5T)

198 No five-day "cooling off period" before taking a lesbian home.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

There's a 'accidental' or 'negligent' discharge joke in there somewhere but I'm too lazy to put it together.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2021 05:26 PM (Rvt88)

199 >Cake shops apparently need to just offer a binder of cake decorating patterns they will do. Like tattoo parlors. Here's a book to look through. If you don't see it, we don't offer it.
Posted by: Lady in Black


Brilliant

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 17, 2021 05:26 PM (iTXRQ)

200 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (gUt1u)

I don't know why people think this is so funny. Would you prefer I use the word "erection"?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:27 PM (k39e/)

201 it's so naughty

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 17, 2021 05:27 PM (iTXRQ)

202 I have a plan to save the Union, through an Article V Convention to amend the Constitution.

My first Amendment:

The Supreme Court will consist of nine individuals selected by a majority of the Governors of the several States, at an annual convention of Governors, and confirmed by a majority of State Legislatures.

Supreme Court Justices will serve for nine years, with one being replaced at each annual Governor's Convention, unless a Justice needs to be replaced due to death or resignation. In that event, the Justice selected to replace the departed Justice will serve out that Justices nine year term only.

At each annual Convention of Governors, any Justice can be removed by a simple majority of Governors, to be replaced by whomever they select for the remainder of their term, upon being confirmed by a majority of State Legislatures.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at June 17, 2021 05:27 PM (4+eS+)

203 > Is there such a thing as a 'silenced' lesbian?

Probably when her gf is sitting on her face?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2021 05:28 PM (ePZFs)

204 Oh, and eleven "Republican" Senators voted to join the bipartisan infrastructure plan. Don't bother looking it up, you know who sided with the Democrats.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp


Sorry, guys. We're trying real hard here in NC, but we need some help. We're getting Virginia'd.

Posted by: Monkey in a fez with questions at June 17, 2021 05:28 PM (tSYTI)

205 Cake shops apparently need to just offer a binder of cake decorating patterns they will do. Like tattoo parlors. Here's a book to look through. If you don't see it, we don't offer it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2021 05:24 PM (O+I8R)


It wouldn't work. For one thing, it's still the production of a product specifically for an act which is against their moral judgment. It's as if a Christian sculptor was approached about creating a statue, only to discover that it would be used in a pagan ritual. Simply offering a preapproved list of sculptures doesn't change the fact that it will be constructed for use in a way which the Christian opposes, and will thus contribute to another person's sin.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:28 PM (jOcSX)

206 I think the incompetent conservatives ,not theRINOs , have a mental block about playing by the rules being more important than winning. The problem is that they have created rules where none exist . That was their problem with Trump. He didn't play by those gentlemanly rules they made up in their heads. And the Democrats never have.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 17, 2021 05:28 PM (2DOZq)

207 One of my peers at the MICCC back in 2010 kept talking about this weird thing called Bitcoin. I checked it out and thought, "nah, why buy something like this?"
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:20 PM (jOcSX)

...

I was on a small form factor computer forum in 2006.

Lots of people talking about this thing where you loaned idle computer time to solve protein folding problems. The other half were talking about mining bitcoin. Here's the link, here's how you set it up, it just runs in the background.

I could have been mining bitcoin in 2006.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2021 05:28 PM (ohOLP)

208 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:27 PM (k39e/)

Because it's you using the term, my dear.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 17, 2021 05:28 PM (AL0d+)

209 I don't know why people think this is so funny. Would you prefer I use the word "erection"?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:27 PM (k39e/)

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please

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at June 17, 2021 05:28 PM (gUt1u)

210 Just got off Teams meeting. Luv luv luv watching the boss get all pissed off at a PM who is shaking his head because he forgot he was on camera.
At least he wasn't wanking it.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2021 05:28 PM (v0R5T)

211 It's pretty apparent CJ Roberts is compromised by "something." Lots of theories, lots of smack, but nothing that will stick.

Yet.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2021 05:30 PM (3H9h1)

212 Explains that two ship Mig overflight back in '77.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:17 PM (axyOa)

They did have good IFF squawks...
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 17, 2021 05:23 PM (FplAd)

***
This was in Germany. Scared the crap outta everyone. They buzzed our little kaserne at about 500 feet.
You'd of been proud of our Red Eye platoon. They came roaring into the HQs yelling to breakout the missiles.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:30 PM (axyOa)

213 >>If its the same person / group, he should ask the court to have her/them declared a vexatious litigant. It would at least slow them down a bit.


People get hit by service vehicles all the time. Be a shame if that happened.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2021 05:30 PM (qxpAF)

214 Do we have to keep our lesion locked up? Like the gimp

Posted by: Jean at June 17, 2021 05:31 PM (Qsr61)

215 Use " tumescent" Fen... all arty and stuff...

Posted by: kraken at June 17, 2021 05:31 PM (6Je/Q)

216 Thank you !

What's a T level ...and how do I avoid losing money when that happens?
Posted by: LASue

You're welcome!
I don't recommend testosterone injections for women so the inverse would apply.
Thank you for your input. ^w^

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 17, 2021 05:31 PM (087Iv)

217 >> Is there such a thing as a 'silenced' lesbian?

>Probably when her gf is sitting on her face?


That's just muffled.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2021 05:31 PM (CqcW3)

218 >It wouldn't work. For one thing, it's still the production of a product specifically for an act which is against their moral judgment.


WHAT if it's just a list of generic cake 'messages'?

Happy Birthday (name here)
Congratulations (name here)

etc etc

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 17, 2021 05:31 PM (iTXRQ)

219 And I pay as much or more for my current shit insurance that I can't afford to actually use for myself as I did for my old not-quite-as-shit insurance which I did actually use.

I don't understand any of it beyond the tendency for things to get crappier as the universe approaches heat death.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 17, 2021 05:32 PM (+BMD8)

220 Do we have to keep our lesion locked up? Like the gimp
Posted by: Jean at June 17, 2021 05:31 PM (Qsr61)


No, but it's advisable not to store your lesbian in the closet, as they have a tendency to suddenly come out of it at inconvenient times.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:32 PM (jOcSX)

221 Biden let it slip when he said they don't need your vote. They all know it is rigged.
Ackshully, Walter let it slip with his "biggest voter fraud organization" phrase. He was right.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 17, 2021 05:32 PM (HaL55)

222 Ace's Indian name is Running Dick Keyboard .

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 17, 2021 05:32 PM (rB4m/)

223 But there must be something still different insurance-wise because my insurance still sucks.

The penalty for not having fake insurance is gone. But it is still illegal to offer real insurance (amd possibly buy real insurance, I don’t know). You’re paying for a lot of services you will never use, as well as for everyone who is only going to get “insurance” after they need it. And probably a lot of other things. It was a huge bill, and the penalty was only a tiny part of it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2021 05:33 PM (CX3cf)

224 Is there such a thing as a 'silenced' lesbian?

Probably when her gf is sitting on her face?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2021 05:28 PM (ePZFs)

I bet there's still a bunch of talking going on.

Talking, talking, talking.
And then more talking.
About feelings. And what happened yesterday - you'll never believe it!-, to my friend's daughter's friend.

Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2021 05:33 PM (Ed8Zd)

225 199 >Cake shops apparently need to just offer a binder of cake decorating patterns they will do. Like tattoo parlors. Here's a book to look through. If you don't see it, we don't offer it.
Posted by: Lady in Black


Lets be honest - I'll weld up and rattle can a rainbow metal sign, if the price is right. They want a queer wedding topper on it ? Fuck - I ain't got one. But here's your rainbow. Top it however you want.

Want a metal sign praising pedo shit ? I'll drop your name to the right people. Not necessarily in uniform. The dixie folks that get shit done.

Posted by: East of Omaha at June 17, 2021 05:33 PM (z/EVC)

226 No, but it's advisable not to store your lesbian in the closet, as they have a tendency to suddenly come out of it at inconvenient times.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

Ask your Doctor if lesbians are for you. Do not take lesbians if you are allergic to lesbians. If case of unexpected side effects such as rash, itching, or whisker burn, stop taking lesbians.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2021 05:34 PM (Rvt88)

227 WHAT if it's just a list of generic cake 'messages'?

Happy Birthday (name here)
Congratulations (name here)

--

Yes, a narrow scope. If you want to desecrate your cake at home in some way, have at it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2021 05:35 PM (O+I8R)

228 Does Jewells45 make ankle bracelets??

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2021 05:35 PM (UHVv4)

229 You're welcome!
I don't recommend testosterone injections for women so the inverse would apply.
Thank you for your input. ^w^
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 17, 2021 05:31 PM (087Iv)

lol. I thought it had to something to do with Treasury Bills.

Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2021 05:35 PM (Ed8Zd)

230 sex change drugs and surgery, etc. why must I pay for this crap?

Posted by: henry at June 17, 2021 04:50 PM (O5by/)
-------------------

Sex change and drugs; Hey, everybody's doing it.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2021 05:35 PM (jd+Ya)

231 Ask your Doctor if lesbians are for you. Do not take lesbians if you are allergic to lesbians. If case of unexpected side effects such as rash, itching, or whisker burn, stop taking lesbians.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2021 05:34 PM (Rvt8


Side effects include flannel, collecting Indego Girls albums, and standing on a front lawn screaming and waving a shotgun.

Offer not valid in Vermont.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:35 PM (jOcSX)

232 Transgender lawyer also wanted Mr Phillips to bake a cake with Satan smoking a joint.

https://tinyurl.com/8f24eej

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:36 PM (k39e/)

233 The Harm to the various States is concrete. Obamacare was a Federal Power grab, taking authority away from the States. That is harmful going into the future, and while you cannot put a dollar amount on it, it IS harmful.

That a State has no standing to sue on Constitutional issues, the very Constitution THEY are supposed to be partners in.... means the Republic ex morte.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2021 05:36 PM (oHd/0)

234 The Supreme Cowards whiff again.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at June 17, 2021 05:36 PM (po5ZZ)

235 Does Jewells45 make ankle bracelets??
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2021 05:35 PM (UHVv4)

My kryptonIte.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 17, 2021 05:36 PM (2DOZq)

236 My visions of Horde approved Constitutional Amendments, blown out by lesbian sex comments...

Love the Horde.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at June 17, 2021 05:37 PM (4+eS+)

237 "But here's your rainbow. Top it however you want."

Trying to find that jpg of the Rainbow Flag with the nazi swastika on it, as it perfectly encapsulates the LGBTLMNOP movement.

But it's been disappeared(?) from the search algorithm

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 17, 2021 05:37 PM (83lwH)

238 ATC is probably preparing the raptors even as we speak...

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:37 PM (jOcSX)

239 >>> The penalty for not having fake insurance is gone. But it is still illegal to offer real insurance (amd possibly buy real insurance, I don't know). You're paying for a lot of services you will never use, as well as for everyone who is only going to get "insurance" after they need it. And probably a lot of other things. It was a huge bill, and the penalty was only a tiny part of it.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2021 05:33 PM (CX3cf)


I figured it was something like that. Really truly sucks.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 17, 2021 05:38 PM (+BMD8)

240 I believe Mr. Phillips said he would give them a cake and Sardina could decorate it anyway he/she wants but nope...

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:38 PM (k39e/)

241 235 Does Jewells45 make ankle bracelets??
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2021 05:35 PM (UHVv4)

---------

Yes, but don't ask for one with Satan smoking a joint. She won't do it.

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at June 17, 2021 05:38 PM (gUt1u)

242 sex change drugs and surgery, etc. why must I pay for this crap?

Posted by: henry at June 17, 2021 04:50 PM (O5by/)

But wait! It gets better! Now if an illegal gets into the country, and asks for asylum... even if it is not granted yet, the US Government will now fly THEIR FAMILY here, so they can 'be together', while they await their court dates.

The court dates they will not show up for, now that the US Taxpayer has paid for the family to get here.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2021 05:38 PM (oHd/0)

243 Transgender lawyer also wanted Mr Phillips to bake a cake with Satan smoking a joint

"Yeah. Sorry we're already way behind as it is. Can't get to your cake until at least November, if then. Try the baker on the other end of town."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 17, 2021 05:38 PM (HaL55)

244 I'm glad that Juneteenth is now a national holiday, a holiday recognizing when slaves in Texas were 1st informed that they were free. We should thank all Dems for nationalizing a Texas holiday.

Posted by: Raven at June 17, 2021 05:38 PM (ofuRU)

245 Women have ya hoo and men have a ruh roh.

That's the way human beings are built.

Period.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2021 05:39 PM (jd+Ya)

246 Ice cream time for me
Can't say what Sundowner is doing

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2021 05:39 PM (Cxk7w)

247 WHAT if it's just a list of generic cake 'messages'?

Happy Birthday (name here)
Congratulations (name here)

etc etc


Congratulations Bob and Ron!

Best Wishes Ellen and Renee!

Posted by: kytten at June 17, 2021 05:39 PM (tjZg/)

248 WHAT if it's just a list of generic cake 'messages'?

Happy Birthday (name here)
Congratulations (name here)

--

Yes, a narrow scope. If you want to desecrate your cake at home in some way, have at it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2021 05:35 PM (O+I8R)

The downstream effects of losing the freedom of association years ago.
Now a minority of any stripe can compel action disagreeable to another person using government force.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 17, 2021 05:39 PM (z79tQ)

249 Women have ya hoo and men have a ruh roh.

That's the way human beings are built.

Period.
Posted by: Braenyard

B knows what he is talking about guys! He's in pre-med.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2021 05:39 PM (Rvt88)

250 Does the Colorado Bar Association agree that this Autumn Scardino creature deserves to keep its law license while tormenting a single entrepreneur for his religious beliefs?

Posted by: vivi at June 17, 2021 05:40 PM (xwB9J)

251 Currently I just have an indemnity med policy. There is a set amount they will pay me for specific services. You can negotiate on your own with your provider on a price.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 17, 2021 05:40 PM (2DOZq)

252 Does the Colorado Bar Association agree that this Autumn Scardino creature deserves to keep its law license while tormenting a single entrepreneur for his religious beliefs?
Posted by: vivi at June 17, 2021 05:40 PM (xwB9J)


They're probably helping "her" pro-bono to harass him.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:40 PM (jOcSX)

253 Does the Colorado Bar Association agree that this Autumn Scardino creature deserves to keep its law license while tormenting a single entrepreneur for his religious beliefs?

----------

Bar associations are universally leftard so take a wild guess.

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at June 17, 2021 05:41 PM (gUt1u)

254 But wait! It gets better! Now if an illegal gets into the country, and asks for asylum... even if it is not granted yet, the US Government will now fly THEIR FAMILY here, so they can 'be together', while they await their court dates.

The court dates they will not show up for, now that the US Taxpayer has paid for the family to get here.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2021 05:38 PM (oHd/0)
***

This is just friggin insane. Complete bullsh*t!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2021 05:41 PM (axyOa)

255 Who is most tiresome... Gays, Lesbians, or the self- mutilators??? Honestly, people, we know, we know already!!!

Posted by: kraken at June 17, 2021 05:41 PM (6Je/Q)

256 Justin banned lesbians here with the black things that go up. Strap-on stocks or something like that.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2021 05:41 PM (UHVv4)

257 Posted by: vivi at June 17, 2021 05:40 PM (xwB9J)

The shop is near Denver. I expect they do. Besides, the lawyer worked for the Civil Rights division.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:42 PM (k39e/)

258 244 I'm glad that Juneteenth is now a national holiday, a holiday recognizing when slaves in Texas were 1st informed that they were free. We should thank all Dems for nationalizing a Texas holiday.
Posted by: Raven at June 17, 2021 05:38 PM (ofuRU)

National Holiday celebrating Blacks being Ignorant.

Could there BE a more Democrat Party Holiday?

Posted by: LBJ at June 17, 2021 05:42 PM (oHd/0)

259 Anyone ever handled a SBL (short busty lesbian) with a flamethrower attachment?

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 17, 2021 05:42 PM (jOcSX)

260 Would you prefer I use the word "erection"?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2021 05:27 PM


Prease. As your flomer Plesident said, "Elections have consequences".

Posted by: Sum Ting Wong at June 17, 2021 05:43 PM (DMUuz)

261 256 Justin banned lesbians here with the black things that go up. Strap-on stocks or something like that.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2021 05:41 PM (UHVv4)

-----

But the chainsaw attachments are still legal, right?

Posted by: ShainS at June 17, 2021 05:43 PM (QrwYR)

262 58 I figured Barrett would be a disappointment, but considering other alternatives, eh, what ya gonna do? Maybe she will stand with us on something big one day.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2021 04:55 PM (r+sAi)
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Trump won't be making his next pick from a Heritage list.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2021 05:43 PM (jd+Ya)

263 Throbbing, venous.....

Posted by: kraken at June 17, 2021 05:43 PM (6Je/Q)

264 "Women have ya hoo"

I thought it was a snizz?

Posted by: Bosk at June 17, 2021 05:44 PM (FgPjD)

265 Lesbians with pistol grips and bayonet lugs: fully legal in all states.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2021 05:45 PM (ePZFs)

266 nood


quickies

Posted by: banana Dream at June 17, 2021 05:45 PM (+BMD8)

267 Anyone ever handled a SBL (short busty lesbian) with a flamethrower attachment?
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

Oh, the BullPup model?

Yes, of course.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2021 05:45 PM (Rvt88)

268 Federal Judge Rules That Jewish Baker Must Make 'Death To Israel' Cake For Arab Customer

"The American right to cake is just as sacred as the right to kill unborn babies, choose your own pronouns, and vote by mail without showing ID or proof of citizenship," the judge said in his scathing 12-page ruling. "As such, I decree that Jake Bakes Cakes must bake the 'Death To Israel' cake."

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2021 05:45 PM (UHVv4)

269 "Cake shops apparently need to just offer a binder of cake decorating patterns they will do."

A practical solution but a retreat from Religious Liberty and Freedom of Association. Back when I thought I could save liberal lives from Fen's Wrath, I would argue that:

"Should a feminist photographer be required shoot a BDSM scene that she feels promotes violence against women? How about a Jewish seamstress forced to sew Nazi Uniforms for the local KKK rally?"

But they still don't get it, because as Fen's Law show us, the don't really believe in the things they lecture the rest of us about. Applied here, it means that since they they care about freedom of association, my points above are just selling a hill they occupied. Waste of time and energy, because what this is really about is their hatred of Christians.

I stopped supporting homosexual rights because of it. When they show me they can respect the rights of those other than themselves, I'll start supporting their rights again.

Same with trans. It's all about THEM, making others deny reality and pretend they are the same as women. SO self-centered.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 17, 2021 05:46 PM (83lwH)

270 edit

Applied here, it means that since they DON'T care about freedom of association, my points above are just selling a hill they occupied.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 17, 2021 05:47 PM (83lwH)

271 Well, I just signed up for Medicare Part A, but am keeping my employer health insurance.
Anybody do research on Medicare? It's great way to go bankrupt. But don't worry, they'll only take $148.50 per month out of your SS check and pay 80% of your medical bills. Hope your teeth don't fall out.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2021 05:47 PM (v0R5T)

272 I figured it was something like that. Really truly sucks.

I think it might still be legal to offer and buy short-term insurance, but that kind of defeats the purpose of insurance too.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2021 05:47 PM (CX3cf)

273 When do we get a federal holiday commemorating the freeing of the slaves held by the Tlingit Indians?

You know, the day when slavery *actually* ended in what is now the United States?

Several years after "Juneteenth", it was.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2021 05:47 PM (ePZFs)

274 Well, I just signed up for Medicare Part A, but am keeping my employer health insurance.

**

Find out who is your primary payer.

You could easily be giving your employer thousands of dollars for nothing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 17, 2021 05:51 PM (S9l8l)

275 These asswipes have knowingly created a Catch 22 to take them off the hook of sh!tcanning this pile of garbage.
Posted by: Thatch

Not just this pile of garbage, but I guess they can pass any law they want by adding a tax, and then repealing the tax.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 17, 2021 06:12 PM (2vKyL)

276 The "suffered no harm" caveat is one I'd the stupidest things in law when it comes to trying to stop the government. So if the government okays mass arrest of say, the Japanese, you can't stop the clearly illegal and unconstitutional act, until those citizens have already been harmed, knowing full well that it's 100% unconstitutional. Or they won't stop it if you're a concerned 3rd party. So people are okay with watching fellow citizens get hurt or worse, because the Supreme Court has decided that the government can explicitly say they are going to break the law, but we can't take them at their word.

This wouldn't be held up for you or I, as if we made a threat we'd be arrested before we can go through with it, even if a 3rd party heard the threat and made the complaint to police. The government threatens us all with its unconstitutional laws, but it's not until they put its citizens through hell that they can be stopped (unless the SCotUS decides that it's fully onboard edith all the government's unconstitutional laws, like they often do)

Posted by: Rbastid at June 17, 2021 06:59 PM (vk2Uw)

277 Needs moar 'doilies'.

It's all illegitimate.

Posted by: micky at June 17, 2021 07:43 PM (3byMq)

278 Alternate version:
"In a 7-2 ruling today the Supreme Court affirmed that Rule of Law doesn't apply if you're not going to get convicted of anything."

They've just legalized all the shoplifting, arson, assaults, looting, and other Antifa and BLM riot actions, since there is no penalty for those actions. According to the Supreme Court, without a penalty, those actions cannot be considered to be wrong

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 17, 2021 10:46 PM (K58O6)

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