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Centrally planned economies...why don't they work? Well, according to the bien-pensant, they just haven't done quite enough commanding!

So California, flush with Wuhan Flu windfall is going to double down on the spectacularly stupid and discredited policy of picking winners and losers in the grand game of economics. And of course, because this is California, they are choosing marijuana!

But it gets better! The reason -- according to the mandarins in Sacramento -- that the legal pot industry is failing is because of the byzantine and draconian rules governing pretty much everything in California, and the answer is to provide state money to municipalities to assist the pot sellers with the licensing requirements.

I swear I am not making this up!

California offers $100 million to rescue its struggling legal marijuana industry

Many cannabis growers, retailers and manufacturers have struggled to make the transition from a provisional, temporary license to a permanent one renewed on an annual basis — a process that requires a costly, complicated and time-consuming review of the negative environmental effects involved in a business and a plan for reducing those harms.

As a result, about 82% of the state’s cannabis licensees still held provisional licenses as of April, according to the governor’s office.

The funds, including $22 million earmarked for L.A., would help cities hire experts and staff to assist businesses in completing the environmental studies and transitioning the licenses to "help legitimate businesses succeed," Ting said.

The grant program is endorsed by Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who said in a letter to legislators that the money is “essential in supporting a well-regulated, equitable, and sustainable cannabis market."


So the state is gong to choose some businesses and provide assistance navigating the insanity that is the regulatory state in California. Instead of simply streamlining the regulations, or even better just getting rid of them, they are going to spend taxpayer money on their pet businesses!

It is a wonderful glimpse into the chaotic and mushy thinking of the 21st century bureaucrat. "We made this situation as bad as it is, so we are going to spend your money to make it slightly less bad but possibly even worse."

I was in California recently, and let me assure you, its problems have nothing to do with marijuana storefronts. Bums, filth, obscene regulatory schemes, ridiculous taxes, an out-of-control legislature and an even worse administration.

But maybe marijuana is the salvation of California. Everybody can get stoned and maybe they won't notice the decay of what once was the greatest economic engine in the country.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM




Comments

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1 Not Sponge!

Posted by: Doof at June 15, 2021 10:01 AM (mZUr4)

2 I was in California recently, and let me assure you, its problems have nothing to do with marijuana storefronts. Bums, filth, obscene regulatory schemes, ridiculous taxes, an out-of-control legislature and an even worse administration.

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Sounds like it's working fine, comrade.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:02 AM (LvTSG)

3 Cali sucks. What a waste

Posted by: Doof at June 15, 2021 10:02 AM (mZUr4)

4 They planned on this being a cash cow for their crap state.

All Venice now...

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:02 AM (9VFzC)

5 What was Reagan's line about if it moves, tax it and if it stops moving, subsidize it?

In your heart, you knew he was right.

Posted by: 496 at June 15, 2021 10:02 AM (U1eOr)

6 Tax, Tax Tax, Subsidize!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 15, 2021 10:02 AM (csEWM)

7 Yay! Dope!

Posted by: free tibet at June 15, 2021 10:03 AM (TeqkM)

8 It will be the meeting of the mind -- when Biden meets Putin.

Posted by: JM in Florida at June 15, 2021 10:03 AM (HCeRP)

9 5 What was Reagan's line about if it moves, tax it and if it stops moving, subsidize it?

In your heart, you knew he was right.
Posted by: 496 at June 15, 2021 10:02 AM (U1eOr)

This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 15, 2021 10:03 AM (csEWM)

10 th!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2021 10:03 AM (m+jkK)

11 It's really the black market dealers causing the failure, but how do you solve that while defunding the police?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 15, 2021 10:03 AM (uwc6D)

12 11 It's really the black market dealers causing the failure, but how do you solve that while defunding the police?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 15, 2021 10:03 AM (uwc6D)

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Do more with less.

Duh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:04 AM (LvTSG)

13 CBD, you know the answer is just that everyone believes hard enough, this time it will work. #NotACult

Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2021 10:04 AM (Ojki1)

14

California is infested with gangs and cartels.
Everyone gets let out of jail if they even get arrested.

Split the state in half.

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:05 AM (9VFzC)

15 So the ultimate beneficiaries here are "experts and staff" to be hired by cities with the extra money from the state? Sounds completely on the up and up.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 15, 2021 10:05 AM (BMmaB)

16 California is a cancer and it is metastasizing.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:05 AM (/+QtN)

17 Let them eat wacky tabacky.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at June 15, 2021 10:05 AM (TNyrE)

18 CBD can we keep talking vaccine?

>>>Like I say, look at the excess mortality, all causes. The spike is impressive. For sure, some of it is due to the social reaction, but not the majority, especially in the early days.

Do we even know the excess mortality? I get that there was very clear short-term excess mortality from Covid in the first half of 2020. Do we know how much the net was for the year?

I'd like to see a running graph of deaths in the preceeding 12 months. A series of them--all deaths, then non-accidental/injury deaths, etc.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2021 10:05 AM (ohOLP)

19

I wonder if Gates owns the farm land in Cali too.

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:06 AM (9VFzC)

20 The government can't sell dope or run a whorehouse profitably.

Who knew?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:06 AM (T2Zv1)

21 Somebody needs to be told what the definition of "graft" is.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 15, 2021 10:06 AM (3H9h1)

22 It's really the black market dealers causing the failure, but how do you solve that while defunding the police?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 15, 2021 10:03 AM (uwc6D)

...

Volume.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2021 10:06 AM (ohOLP)

23
Someone here was mentioning a flood of them in Montana now. Another State goes down. Nobody can withstand the human wave coming out of there. There are just *so many* of them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 15, 2021 10:07 AM (pfqSb)

24 So they are going to "choose" some businesses to assist?
IOW, those that stuffed the most cash into envelopes for the pols.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:07 AM (axyOa)

25 California is infested with gangs and cartels.
Everyone gets let out of jail if they even get arrested.

Split the state in half.
Posted by: artisanal ette


Longways.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:07 AM (T2Zv1)

26 It's really the black market dealers causing the failure, but how do you solve that while defunding the police?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 15, 2021 10:03 AM (uwc6D)



My dad (a pothead since before I was born) got a 215 card a couple of years before he died. A "licensed" retailer would even deliver his weed to the house for him if he wanted. He STILL bought from his dealer instead.

Posted by: Jordan61, I am the 30% at June 15, 2021 10:07 AM (Ez6QX)

27 CBD can we keep talking vaccine?
(ohOLP)


this guy has a lot of info

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/with_replies

lots of data if you scroll and scroll

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:08 AM (9VFzC)

28 After all this collapses (inevitable) and a workable government is installed, how do you keep the left from reinfiltrating?

Last thing needed is a reprise.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 15, 2021 10:08 AM (KATBx)

29 It is a wonderful glimpse into the chaotic and mushy thinking of the 21st century bureaucrat. "We made this situation as bad as it is, so we are going to spend your money to make it slightly less bad but possibly even worse."


You're missing the point. If the regulatory burden was light on everyone, then how would politicians build up their dependent client base?

If you start out with a regime of generalized regulatory oppression, then chosen favorites can be rewarded with partial reprieves and exemptions.

Assuming the right number of coins go into the the right pockets, of course.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 15, 2021 10:08 AM (fLVm1)

30 >>It's really the black market dealers causing the failure


Nope. The problem is that it is a system born and based solely on the promise of Tax Revenue.

Not a good way to motivate participation.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:08 AM (/+QtN)

31 But maybe marijuana is the salvation of California. Everybody can get stoned and maybe they won't notice the decay of what once was the greatest economic engine in the country

...

There is a series of famous landscapes showing the decay of a particular view in Rome or someplace, right?

That's how I think of California now. Moving from panel 2 to 3 of the triptych.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2021 10:08 AM (ohOLP)

32 If CA is going to subsidize, why not cut permit fees and other costs of doing business weed instead?

Posted by: JM in Florida at June 15, 2021 10:09 AM (HCeRP)

33 Nelson Muntz laugh to KKKalifornia.

Posted by: President Orange Man Bad (Rheees Be Upon Him) at June 15, 2021 10:09 AM (jV+aN)

34 California in the 70s was very nice and I was thinking about moving there permanent. Wouldn't go back there for anything now.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM (JUOKG)

35 >>Someone here was mentioning a flood of them in Montana now.


I shit you not...I see 5 Texas plates up here for every one from Cali.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM (pA+g7)

36 I'm glad I got to see California when it was vibrant. It would hurt my heart to go there now.

Posted by: Emmie at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM (tcsxg)

37 Nope. The problem is that it is a system born and based solely on the promise of Tax Revenue.

Not a good way to motivate participation.
Posted by: garrett


Sounds remotely like the Lottery process.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM (T2Zv1)

38 I think one difference between left wingers and right wingers is this: if right wingers try something and after some time it appears the policy isn't working, we'll say "let's try something else." Left wingers are incapable of admitting their ideas are wrong so if crime goes up after gun control is introduced, the lefties will just insist that we need more gun control.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM (4a9Vv)

39 Alex Berenson@AlexBerenson
1h
Every country, every continent, every season, every #Covid vaccine (except New Zealand, the great outlier): when the rollouts begin, cases spike.

Why? I don't know why. But I know anyone who says it doesn't happen is lying.

charts at link

https://tinyurl.com/3avnbf2n

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM (9VFzC)

40 >>It is a wonderful glimpse into the chaotic and mushy thinking of the 21st century bureaucrat. "We made this situation as bad as it is, so we are going to spend your money to make it slightly less bad but possibly even worse."


Ah, but don;t you see the beauty of their solution?

MORE bureaucracy.
MORE people need to be hired.
MORE money to be allocated (more opportunity for graft).
MORE power to exert by picking winner and losers (more influence to sell).

Streamlining and/or eliminating cumbersom regulations offers none of the above.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM (bDqIh)

41
The state government legalized a product with a guaranteed demand, and then taxed and regulated it to the point that people still prefer to get it on the black market like they always did.

There is nothing these people can't screw up. Nothing.

(Oroville dam next rainy winter, pending...)

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM (2iDSr)

42 California is infested with gangs and cartels.
Everyone gets let out of jail if they even get arrested.

Split the state in half.
Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:05 AM (9VFzC)


If your militia is big enough, it wouldn't be that hard to do. From Lake Tahoe make a line straight across. Let the south keep Sacramento. Blockade the roads. Not too difficult.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM (axyOa)

43 What is this thread about again?

(JROD Cali resident and high AF on Purple Kush)

Posted by: JROD at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (0jZnq)

44 But, Bozeman is essentially a California City now.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (pA+g7)

45 If CA is going to subsidize, why not cut permit fees and other costs of doing business weed instead?

Posted by: JM in Florida at June 15, 2021 10:09 AM (HCeRP)

Shut your whore mouth!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (Q9lwr)

46 The government can't sell dope or run a whorehouse profitably.

Who knew?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:06 AM (T2Zv1)



I believe it was Milton Friedman who said that if the federal government was put in charge of regulating the Sahara Desert, it would be a matter of months before there was a shortage of sand.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (fLVm1)

47 Nope. The problem is that it is a system born and based solely on the promise of Tax Revenue.

Not a good way to motivate participation.
Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:08 AM (/+QtN)

...

It's the perfect example of the command economy.

These idiots can't take a simple agrarian product for which there is a known, steady demand, and manage it. No one could, of course. But if you can't predict the price of pot and the impact of your tax on that demand and how much you'll sell--maybe managing the economy isn't your thing.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (ohOLP)

48 32 If CA is going to subsidize, why not cut permit fees and other costs of doing business weed instead?
think of all the bureaucrats that would lose their jobs. those folks have children. why do you hate children?

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (v3pYe)

49 Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. We can fix this.

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli, CA Governor at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (4I/2K)

50 California offers $100 million to rescue its struggling legal marijuana industry...
As a result, about 82% of the state's cannabis licensees still held provisional licenses as of April, according to the governor's office.

++++
So this right here is hilarious. From the "California Cannabis Portal" (an official CA state website):
More than 10,000 cannabis operators, from Shasta Lake to the City of San Diego, hold state licenses in the largest cannabis market in the country.

So let's assume "more than" means the number rounds up to 11,000. 82% of that figure is 9,020, so let's call it 9,100 provisional licensees. The state is spending around $11k *each* to help them navigate the bureaucracy.

The last reported full-year cannabis tax revenue was $522 million, while most licensees are provisional. And to fix that problem, they're spending around 20% of the total take to help them navigate the system.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you "systemic insanity."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (Jsjd7)

51 41 The state government legalized a product with a guaranteed demand, and then taxed and regulated it to the point that people still prefer to get it on the black market like they always did.

There is nothing these people can't screw up. Nothing.

(Oroville dam next rainy winter, pending...)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM (2iDSr)

=========

I remember memes about this way back before weed was legal outside of medical issues anywhere. Everyone knew that the only places that would legalize weed would tax it to the point where the comparable packet of joints to a packet of cigarettes would be something like $60.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:12 AM (LvTSG)

52 Venice Beach: An #American Tragedy (a new documentary on the homeless)

https://tinyurl.com/ydvr26lo

Posted by: Tami at June 15, 2021 10:12 AM (cF8AT)

53 But 5th largest economy in the galaxy!!!

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:12 AM (1mLGh)

54 You gotta luv the subtle message that the people who run the pot shops just aren't quite competent enough to operate their bidnesses successfully. Fortunately, Big Brother/Sister is here to help.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 15, 2021 10:12 AM (HaL55)

55 45 If CA is going to subsidize, why not cut permit fees and other costs of doing business weed instead?

Posted by: JM in Florida at June 15, 2021 10:09 AM (HCeRP)

Shut your whore mouth!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (Q9lwr)

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Your time in California made quite the impression on you, it seems.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:12 AM (LvTSG)

56
But, Bozeman is essentially a California City now.
Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (pA+g7)

------

A few years back, Joe Mannix started referring to Denver as "the Far East Bay." It's accurate.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 15, 2021 10:12 AM (pfqSb)

57 California is a cancer and it is metastasizing.

This is true and it pains me. My first job out of college was in the bay area and I lived there for seven years. I still think it's one of the most geographically blessed places on the planet and it hurts to watch it being driven into a wasteland.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 15, 2021 10:13 AM (nfrXX)

58 The problem is the pot stores can't get their employees to wake up before 1pm.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Who would have imagined that Karmella stutters like Slipfoot, too? at June 15, 2021 10:13 AM (S9l8l)

59 A sand shortage? The world is running out of a crucial -- but under-appreciated -- commodity

Posted by: SMH at June 15, 2021 10:13 AM (YoCgm)

60 Well, to keep up with the Kool Kidz tm, Seattle is looking at legalizing hallucinagenics. sp?
Shrooms and, I presume acid. I am looking forward to the burning.
Idiots.
Oregon has already legalized all drugs, in quantities for, "Personal use only".
Of course, defunding the police is going to help a lot to control that. Just like it has with the murder rate in Portland.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at June 15, 2021 10:13 AM (FtJ1S)

61 57 California is a cancer and it is metastasizing.

This is true and it pains me. My first job out of college was in the bay area and I lived there for seven years. I still think it's one of the most geographically blessed places on the planet and it hurts to watch it being driven into a wasteland.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 15, 2021 10:13 AM (nfrXX)

========

I've seen Vertigo. I think I know what San Francisco looks and feels like well enough.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:14 AM (LvTSG)

62 re 35: "If CA is going to subsidize, why not cut permit fees and other costs of doing business weed instead?"

which method creates more jobs for government employees?

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 15, 2021 10:14 AM (4a9Vv)

63 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 15, 2021 10:14 AM (arJlL)

64 https://tinyurl.com/438xn5m3

Posted by: SMH at June 15, 2021 10:14 AM (YoCgm)

65 Can you smoke pot in buildings, btw? Specifically, are there areas where pot is legal but cigarettes are not?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Who would have imagined that Karmella stutters like Slipfoot, too? at June 15, 2021 10:14 AM (S9l8l)

66 Blame it on rules and regs. But in addition. It's the taxes. The markup from street is at least a third. Go into business, navigate and pay taxes. Or grow your own 8 plants.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 15, 2021 10:14 AM (HyGvN)

67 >>Left wingers are incapable of admitting their ideas are wrong so if crime goes up after gun control is introduced, the lefties will just insist that we need more gun control.


I used to think that.
Now I think it's that they *want* things to go wrong from their current policy so that they can use that failure to demand something else. AN incremental Cloward Piven, if you will. It's like they saw Fast and Furious and realized - YES!

That's what current "justice reform" does, with the no-cash bail, not prosecuting theft under $1k, defunding police, emptying prisons, erc.. They want the chaos this makes to demand more "reform."

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2021 10:14 AM (bDqIh)

68 Sounds remotely like the Lottery process.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:10 AM


*looks at California*

We're going to need more rocks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2021 10:15 AM (m+jkK)

69 Blame it on rules and regs. But in addition. It's the taxes. The markup from street is at least a third. Go into business, navigate and pay taxes. Or grow your own 8 plants.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 15, 2021 10:14 AM (HyGvN)
++++
Or just call your dealer like you did before.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2021 10:15 AM (Jsjd7)

70 >>Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2021 10:15 AM (m+jkK)


Nice.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:15 AM (4bC4c)

71
Alex Berenson

4/ Here's what they look like. I picked two
@moderna_tx reports because Moderna "medically confirm(s)" them.

A Kentucky teen hallucinates, passes out, and has a car accident the day of his second shot; a California man has intense headaches and becomes suicidal after his second.



https://tinyurl.com/emnvaxt7

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:15 AM (9VFzC)

72 Re vaccines, I'd like to see numbers that show how many of those who got an adverse reaction received vax in a hospital setting vs elsewhere ( clinics, Walgreens, CVS etc) and also , adverse reaction by country.

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2021 10:15 AM (dyShS)

73 64 SMH... *facepalm*

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - Not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at June 15, 2021 10:15 AM (SVG0X)

74 Oregon has already legalized all drugs, in quantities for, "Personal use only".

***

One of the funniest things I ever saw posted here was a photo of cocaine with a straw next to it, and the text said "one of these things is illegal in Oregon."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Who would have imagined that Karmella stutters like Slipfoot, too? at June 15, 2021 10:15 AM (S9l8l)

75 I see a cashier at a Big Bear grocery store was shot and killed. Initial reports are dispute over mask. Customer pulled out a weapon and shot the cashier. Then a reserve deputy who was moonlighting as security shot the perp.

Is the Gallery area near Atlanta is the good or bad part of town?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:16 AM (NT1XQ)

76 If your militia is big enough, it wouldn't be that hard to do. From Lake Tahoe make a line straight across. Let the south keep Sacramento. Blockade the roads. Not too difficult.
Posted by: Diogenes


$5 an ear bounty. You supply your own ammo & grub.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:16 AM (T2Zv1)

77 Geez, you wouldn't want a pot industry mired in inequity and unsustainability. Better subsidize it! Or just....not. Bold notion, I know...

LOL.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 15, 2021 10:17 AM (mZOHK)

78 "If CA is going to subsidize, why not cut permit fees and other costs of doing business weed instead?"

which method creates more jobs for government employees?
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 15, 2021 10:14 AM (4a9Vv)

Who are forced to join the union that in turns contributes to politicians...

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:17 AM (axyOa)

79 I see a cashier at a Big Bear grocery store was shot and killed. Initial reports are dispute over mask. Customer pulled out a weapon and shot the cashier.


****

Masked customers shooting cashiers is nothing new in Atlanta.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Who would have imagined that Karmella stutters like Slipfoot, too? at June 15, 2021 10:17 AM (S9l8l)

80 The last reported full-year cannabis tax revenue was $522 million, while
most licensees are provisional. And to fix that problem, they're
spending around 20% of the total take to help them navigate the system.Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you "systemic insanity."


I recall some study a few years back that showed how one dollar of taxes paid in only received about 65 cents worth of services if it ever got "returned." Can't remember where I read it, but it wasn't widely covered, as are most things that would be nice to know if we're going to govern ourselves.
That's half the monies, total.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 15, 2021 10:17 AM (HaL55)

81 I believe it was Milton Friedman who said that if the federal government was put in charge of regulating the Sahara Desert, it would be a matter of months before there was a shortage of sand.

~~~~

Worth repeating

Posted by: fluffy at June 15, 2021 10:18 AM (UnQlg)

82 59 A sand shortage? The world is running out of a crucial -- but under-appreciated -- commodity
Posted by: SMH at June 15, 2021 10:13 AM (YoCgm)


Don't they know that sand is renewable?

Posted by: Emmie at June 15, 2021 10:18 AM (tcsxg)

83 75 I'm going to gues if the grocery store is hiring armed security it isn't the best part of town.

Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2021 10:18 AM (Ojki1)

84 I recall some study a few years back that showed how one dollar of taxes paid in only received about 65 cents worth of services if it ever got "returned."

**

I remember reading in the 90s that one welfare dollar provided ten cents to the people in need. Everything else was job creation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Who would have imagined that Karmella stutters like Slipfoot, too? at June 15, 2021 10:19 AM (S9l8l)

85 Marijuana is sooooo 20th century. Get on the Soma bandwagon early.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 15, 2021 10:19 AM (V6f9+)

86 'New California' movement seeks to divide the Golden State in half

Two men have launched a campaign to divide rural California from the coastal cities, motivated by what they referred to as a "tyrannical form of government" that doesn't follow the U.S. Constitution or the state one, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

Unlike the failed 2016 campaign to split California into six states, the "New California" movement, founded by Robert Paul Preston and Tom Reed, seeks to consolidate rural California into a distinct economy separate from the coast

https://tinyurl.com/2a49r9sj

This is still alive and growing as far as I know. I believe they are still holding meetings all over Cali.

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:19 AM (9VFzC)

87 83 75 I'm going to gues if the grocery store is hiring armed security it isn't the best part of town.
Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2021 10:18 AM (Ojki1)



Gunfire in the canned vegetable aisle is always the tell.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 15, 2021 10:19 AM (fLVm1)

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:19 AM (9VFzC)

89 I've seen Vertigo. I think I know what San Francisco looks and feels like well enough.

Wasn't that filmed partly in San Juan Bautista? Which is also the only place I found Mexican food that I recognized (because I grew up thinking Tex-Mex was Mexican).

Posted by: Oddbob at June 15, 2021 10:19 AM (nfrXX)

90 They don't call it dope because it makes you smarter.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 15, 2021 10:19 AM (W2Pud)

91 I recall some study a few years back that showed how one dollar of taxes paid in only received about 65 cents worth of services if it ever got "returned." Can't remember where I read it, but it wasn't widely covered, as are most things that would be nice to know if we're going to govern ourselves.
That's half the monies, total.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 15, 2021 10:17 AM (HaL55)
++++
This is demonstrable nonsense and you should stop spreading it. Everyone knows that government spending includes a multiplier, so each dollar of government spending generates more economic economic than each dollar of private spending. This has been demonstrated. The science is settled. Economics has moved on, and so should you. Quit spreading these kind of disproven and insane lies.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at June 15, 2021 10:19 AM (Jsjd7)

92 California is infested with gangs and cartels.
Everyone gets let out of jail if they even get arrested.

Split the state in half.
Posted by: artisanal ette


Nah - cut it into tirds

Posted by: 496 at June 15, 2021 10:20 AM (U1eOr)

93 >>'New California' movement seeks to divide the Golden State in half


Nuke the San Andreas Fault!

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:20 AM (4bC4c)

94 https://newcaliforniaonline.com/

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:20 AM (9VFzC)

95 On my list of things to worry about, pot growers going out of business in CA is about number 87,000.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:20 AM (1mLGh)

96 Nuke the San Andreas Fault!

Lex Luthor is that you?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:20 AM (NT1XQ)

97 93 >>'New California' movement seeks to divide the Golden State in half


Nuke the San Andreas Fault!
Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:20 AM (4bC4c)

==========

#LexLuthorDidNothingWrong

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:20 AM (LvTSG)

98 "...California offers $100 million to rescue its struggling legal marijuana industry...As a result, about 82% of the state's cannabis licensees still held provisional licenses as of April, according to the governor's office."

Wait a second. Didn't they sell cannabis legalization to the rubes on the grounds that it would actually bring in revenue to the state? What happened?

If they were wrong about this, I wonder what else they could be wrong about?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 15, 2021 10:20 AM (2LoZM)

99 California is a cancer and it is metastasizing.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:05 AM (/+QtN)

It needs to be hit with radiation.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 15, 2021 10:20 AM (VwHCD)

100

oh, they have a new website now

https://www.newcaliforniastate.com/

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:20 AM (9VFzC)

101 If it was at a Whole Foods the shootout would be in the meat department.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:21 AM (NT1XQ)

102 The last reported full-year cannabis tax revenue was $522 million, while most licensees are provisional. And to fix that problem, they're spending around 20% of the total take to help them navigate the system.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you "systemic insanity."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2021 10:11 AM (Jsjd7)

3. Profit!

Posted by: Underpants Gnome who is now in charge of Cal Economy at June 15, 2021 10:21 AM (oHd/0)

103 I'm going to gues if the grocery store is hiring armed security it isn't the best part of town.
Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2021 10:18 AM (Ojki1)


Gunfire in the canned vegetable aisle is always the tell.
Posted by: Cicero


Mop on aisle 6. Mop needed on aisle 6.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:21 AM (T2Zv1)

104 I've got the munchies ... and the only cure is MOAR gubmint weed!

Posted by: ShainS at June 15, 2021 10:21 AM (c3dw6)

105 We don't need subsidies. We just need to know how to get the employees to come back from their mandatory 10-minute break.

Posted by: The California Legalized Pot Dealers Assn. at June 15, 2021 10:21 AM (fLVm1)

106 >>They don't call it dope because it makes you smarter.


Most of the 'A' types I know are potheads.

Up before the sun. Industrious and motivated.
Good people.
Good citizens.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:21 AM (4bC4c)

107 CA really should be 3 states. LA area, SF Bay and everything else.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:22 AM (1mLGh)

108 Canada is losing millions selling legal pot also. Liberals suck at everything.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 15, 2021 10:22 AM (RmLwt)

109 Oddly, I'm seeing the same thing in Oklahoma. Growers are being priced out of the market by all the regulations and testing requirements.

But the testing requirements seems to be working. OMMA (Oklahoma Medical Marijuana Authority) has occasionally sent out warnings when products fail testing.

Posted by: creeper at June 15, 2021 10:22 AM (XxJt1)

110 (gurgling of bong)



**cough**

Posted by: JROD at June 15, 2021 10:22 AM (0jZnq)

111 107 CA really should be 3 states. LA area, SF Bay and everything else.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:22 AM (1mLGh)

========

Counter:

CA should be 1 state: everything else.

SF and LA should be split off into independent city states with no connection to America.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (LvTSG)

112 You should not feel all alone

Everybody must get stoned....


It's in the state constitution, see?

Posted by: Gavin Newsome, Governor of somewhere at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (vcOmj)

113 Vertigo is a terrible, stupid movie that gets recognition only because it is 'artistic". After the end, it is obvious that Jimmy Stewart's character is going to be arrested and charged with Kim Novak's murder, because no one is going to believe that she got all dressed up and went up the tower with him just to jump off. Plus he had been in a loony bin, and he just killed the only witness who could ever have backed up his version of what had happened.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (trdmm)

114 re: legal weed

So we have gone to Stage 3 - It's stopped moving so subsidize.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (NT1XQ)

115 People who rely on drugs to be Industrious and motivated, are not really .

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (dyShS)

116 SF is Bridgeport CT with seals. I'd say it's the Providence RI with seals, but the food is much better in Providence.

SF is mushy Pacific fish, gamey, gristlely grass fed beef and bread that tastes like a hobo pissed on it.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (L9P9s)

117 107 CA really should be 3 states. LA area, SF Bay and everything else.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:22 AM (1mLGh)

Too many Dem Senate seats.

Posted by: Underpants Gnome who is now in charge of Cal Economy at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (oHd/0)

118 One argument in favor of drug legalization is that it would be a net tax gain for the state rather than a drain through drug enforcement.

Was that a hilariously stupid lie, or is it just me?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (LvTSG)

119
I quit growing when it got legalized here - just not worth the effort for the return when the tax man gets involved. It's harder work than people think, and you have to have a pretty damned big operation to work in those margins profitably.

Now, here in CO, we had quite a few such operations already running, because many rural counties had a "see no evil" approach to it for *decades* before legalization. For instance, in the (blood-red) area I grew up, it was our second biggest industry behind construction, and sometimes number one. Our Sheriff's department was very open about the fact that they were not prosecuting pot growers.

IOW, large, legal grow-ops were able to (mostly) meet the demand here. I expect that CA has much less of the marijuana agricultural know-how and infrastructure (we invented a lot of it here), serving a much larger market.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 15, 2021 10:24 AM (pfqSb)

120 SF and LA should be split off into independent city states with no connection to America.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (LvTSG)



I like this idea but I'd have to go through passport control every morning to get to work.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 15, 2021 10:24 AM (fLVm1)

121 Vertigo is a terrible, stupid movie that gets recognition only because it is 'artistic". After the end, it is obvious that Jimmy Stewart's character is going to be arrested and charged with Kim Novak's murder, because no one is going to believe that she got all dressed up and went up the tower with him just to jump off. Plus he had been in a loony bin, and he just killed the only witness who could ever have backed up his version of what had happened.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (trdmm)
++++
"High Anxiety" > "Vertigo"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2021 10:24 AM (Jsjd7)

122 Legal weed in Colorado turned it into a shithole temporarily until other states opened up and took some of the scum. Of course during that time when Colorado was the only State you hardly heard about the consequences.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 15, 2021 10:25 AM (2DOZq)

123 >> People who rely on drugs to be Industrious and motivated, are not really .


Nobody claimed the pot was making them Industrious and Motivated.

That is who they are.

Pot is the drug they choose. No different than your mechanic stopping off for a few cold ones after a long day at the shop.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:25 AM (4bC4c)

124 Lex Luthor is that you?

"Otisburg? Really?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 15, 2021 10:25 AM (HaL55)

125 Like those horses that win Kentucky derby, or athletes that are on steroids.

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2021 10:25 AM (dyShS)

126 Gunfire in the canned vegetable aisle is always the tell.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 15, 2021 10:19 AM


A sure sign the sour cream has gone bad.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2021 10:25 AM (m+jkK)

127 Make it simple.

Should be able to buy weed at the Walgreens or SuperX over the counter. Give it away in the government skools at lunch. Vending machines work well too.

As the stoners fall behind in life, more for me.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 15, 2021 10:26 AM (YxVzA)

128 "High Anxiety" > "Vertigo"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2021 10:24 AM


An underappreciated part of the Mel Brooks canon.

"That kid gets no tip..."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2021 10:26 AM (m+jkK)

129 SF is mushy Pacific fish, gamey, gristlely grass fed beef and bread that tastes like a hobo pissed on it.

Yeah, I had to spend a week in SF for work a few years back and I figured at least libs have good restaurants. Not true, it turns out.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 15, 2021 10:26 AM (RmLwt)

130 I moved to the Bozeman area in 1971 and still travel back there frequently. It was a wonderful place to live back then.

The wave of Californians from the leftist coastal areas are helping to destroy it but the initial work to destroy it was done by the professors employed by Montana State University and environmentalists in the various non-profit organizations, like the Greater Yellowstone Coalition.

Posted by: Blor-Utar, from Zimtok-5 at June 15, 2021 10:27 AM (xxG/v)

131 >>SF is mushy Pacific fish, gamey, gristlely grass fed beef and bread that tastes like a hobo pissed on it.


This x 1000.

Most overrated City in America.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:27 AM (qHLCi)

132 >>Give it away in the government skools at lunch.


NO.
It affects brain development and cause permenant damage.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2021 10:27 AM (bDqIh)

133 Reminds me of how David Dinkins had to subsidize OTB

Posted by: Abi at June 15, 2021 10:27 AM (HIIX5)

134 Yeah, I had to spend a week in SF for work a few years back and I figured at least libs have good restaurants. Not true, it turns out.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 15, 2021 10:26 AM (RmLwt)


Maybe you just need to hang out at the French Laundry more often. Like I do.

Heh.

Posted by: Gavin Newsom at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (fLVm1)

135 It needs to be hit with radiation.
I say we dust off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (HaL55)

136 Vertigo is a terrible, stupid movie that gets recognition only because it is 'artistic". After the end, it is obvious that Jimmy Stewart's character is going to be arrested and charged with Kim Novak's murder, because no one is going to believe that she got all dressed up and went up the tower with him just to jump off. Plus he had been in a loony bin, and he just killed the only witness who could ever have backed up his version of what had happened.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (trdmm)
***

Oh Man! Way to harsh my mellow! That was next on my "Git Stoned, Watch Movie" list.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (axyOa)

137 Yeah, but that weather tho.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (II3Gr)

138 In an obviously isolated incident a man, sleeping in the cab of his pickup was awakened by the sound of metal on metal sawing.
Leaning out the passenger side door he noticed another gentleman trying to steal his catalytic converter. Taking prompt action, the man in the truck shot and wounded the thief. What happened next is that the vicitm tied the would be thief to the hitch on his truck and drove around the parking lot before cutting the alleged miscreant loose and shooting him again.
This happened in Snohomish County, north of Seattle. The shooter has been charged with 2nd degree murder.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (FtJ1S)

139 Surprised that Ta-nishi Coates or anyone else has yet to link Lex Luthor with Donald Trump

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (NT1XQ)

140 Most of the 'A' types I know are potheads.



Up before the sun. Industrious and motivated.

Good people.

Good citizens.





Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:21 AM (4bC4c)
Yup. Its like if you are a killer running engine, its like a fuel stabilizer. If you are a crap engine though, it could be the kiss of death. It makes lazy people more lazy, but like fuel injection to productive people. No clue why it works that way.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (VwHCD)

141 In other news you won't hear about, an energy study from a green policy group said fossil fuels have the same 80.2% percentage of energy use today they had 10 years ago. While renewables have grown from roughly 9 to a little over 11% in the mix. The swing has been a reduction in biomass usage (wood). Green energy is a scam.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (oWBc3)

142 It affects brain development and cause permenant damage.



Like beer. Wait, not like beer.

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2021 10:29 AM (dyShS)

143 A sand shortage? The world is running out of a crucial -- but under-appreciated -- commodity
Posted by: SMH at June 15, 2021 10:13 AM (YoCgm)


Read the article. First off, not sure why climate scientists are needed here. Second, they say that desert sand is no good for construction but then they list off a ton a non-construction things sand is used for. Things for which smooth, round, firm sand would be fine.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 15, 2021 10:29 AM (T7iTv)

144 AASI, I just went back to the previous thread and saw your reply to my question. Thanks.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 15, 2021 10:29 AM (nfrXX)

145 Split the state in half.
Posted by: artisanal ette


Patience. These things take time.

Posted by: The San Andreas Fault at June 15, 2021 10:29 AM (k23jE)

146 109 Oddly, I'm seeing the same thing in Oklahoma. Growers are being priced out of the market by all the regulations and testing requirements."

The failure was inevitable. States like California and Oklahoma thought "Ooh what a great revenue stream, we can grab a big chunk of it!" But even when it was a criminal offense, there was plenty of supply and plenty of sellers. What they have done is to take away all of the criminal penalties, and replaced them with technical tax law violations and testing requirements. Did they think that the previous sellers and suppliers were just going to go away? Did they think that the people who weren't scared at all by criminal penalties were going to be cowed by some technical paperwork requirements? Just as with alcohol, legal suppliers needed to be able to compete with off the books suppliers on quality and price. If the State takes away those 2 avenues, then the legal suppliers have no chance of capturing the market.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:29 AM (trdmm)

147 145 Split the state in half.
Posted by: artisanal ette

Patience. These things take time.
Posted by: The San Andreas Fault at June 15, 2021 10:29 AM (k23jE)

=========

#TwoWeeks

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:29 AM (LvTSG)

148 52 Venice Beach: An #American Tragedy (a new documentary on the homeless)

https://tinyurl.com/ydvr26lo
Posted by: Tami at June 15, 2021 10:12 AM (cF8AT)


The sheriff has vowed to clean it out by July 4. I'm not putting any money on that.

Posted by: creeper at June 15, 2021 10:30 AM (XxJt1)

149 Ironically, i'm currently at the gym reading this thread.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 15, 2021 10:30 AM (5vPko)

150 What happened next is that the vicitm tied the would be thief to the hitch on his truck and drove around the parking lot before cutting the alleged miscreant loose and shooting him again.

But for the negative effect on gas mileage I applaud the creativity.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 15, 2021 10:30 AM (fLVm1)

151 >>Like beer. Wait, not like beer.


Wet Brain is a thing. Look it up.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:30 AM (qHLCi)

152 It's a push to justify wasteful and fairly pointless glass recycling.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at June 15, 2021 10:30 AM (Oqj3R)

153 The amount of graft being skimmed off the taxes and fees associated with medical weed must be amazing. When West Virginia started their dispensaries the fees to get into the game were in the 6 figures. That's just to start paperwork for the possibility of a license.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 15, 2021 10:31 AM (3H9h1)

154 This happened in Snohomish County, north of Seattle. The shooter has been charged with 2nd degree murder.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (FtJ1S)

Did one of them wear the face colander thingee?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 15, 2021 10:31 AM (YxVzA)

155 122

Washington legalized it at the same time as Colorado. Everyone always focused on CO though which I always found kinda weird.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:31 AM (1mLGh)

156 Pot is the drug they choose. No different than your mechanic stopping off for a few cold ones after a long day at the shop.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:25 AM (4bC4c)

Sorry, but I'll take drunks over dopers any day of the week.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2021 10:31 AM (Q9lwr)

157 The penalty for that thief would seem excessive except said thief was not bright enough to check the truck for occupancy first.

Darwin Winner right there.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:32 AM (NT1XQ)

158 Cicero
I think anger management classes are in order rather than jail time.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at June 15, 2021 10:32 AM (FtJ1S)

159 >>Sorry, but I'll take drunks over dopers any day of the week.


I feel the exact opposite way. Way more problems from alchohol than pot.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:32 AM (qHLCi)

160 What happened next is that the vicitm tied the would be thief to the hitch on his truck and drove around the parking lot before cutting the alleged miscreant loose and shooting him again.

But for the negative effect on gas mileage I applaud the creativity.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 15, 2021 10:30 AM (fLVm1)
***

I'd go with no charges against the driver. The perp was trying to steal the converter, damaged the dudes truck, and then clearly tried to steal the hitch.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:32 AM (axyOa)

161 Leaning out the passenger side door he noticed another gentleman trying to steal his catalytic converter. Taking prompt action, the man in the truck shot and wounded the thief. What happened next is that the vicitm tied the would be thief to the hitch on his truck and drove around the parking lot before cutting the alleged miscreant loose and shooting him again.
This happened in Snohomish County, north of Seattle. The shooter has been charged with 2nd degree murder.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (FtJ1S)

He should have known that playing Achilles with Hector's body wasn't going to work out well for him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:32 AM (trdmm)

162 Just think how much we should be winning. But nooooo, let's do the dark ages time warp.

These villains will kiss my sword.

Not that sword assholes.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 15, 2021 10:33 AM (rB4m/)

163 Hmm, if Pot Prohibition doesn't work and Pot non-Prohibition doesn't work, then logically there are no other options available ... so California's AI Central Planning Robots right now: "Error! Error! Does not compute. We will now kill all humans to clear this error and reboot our analysis engine."

Posted by: Match Checksout at June 15, 2021 10:33 AM (dYe5S)

164 >>> Wet Brain is a thing. Look it up.


What's the number of that website?

Posted by: Joey Fingers at June 15, 2021 10:33 AM (UnQlg)

165 Sorry, but I'll take drunks over dopers any day of the week.

I've wondered whether LEOs would rather deal with stoners than drunks. Most of the drunks seem more violent.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM (HaL55)

166 What happened next is that the vicitm tied the would be thief to the hitch on his truck and drove around the parking lot before cutting the alleged miscreant loose and shooting him again.


Not to digress, but did that trailer hitch happen to have chrome on it?

Posted by: Kamala Harris at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM (fLVm1)

167 Illegal weed will always be cheaper than legal weed. Because legal weed is taxed.

I, torabora, deserve a Nobel Prize in Economics for discovering the Iron Law of Legal Marijuana.

Posted by: torabora at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM (12YfF)

168 But the testing requirements seems to be working. OMMA (Oklahoma Medical Marijuana Authority) has occasionally sent out warnings when products fail testing.
Posted by: creeper


Only government would have weed that fails. I've never heard of pot failing to get someone high. Even skunk weed. And I remember Acapulco Gold at about 3% thc in the mid 70's.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM (T2Zv1)

169 145 Split the state in half.
Posted by: artisanal ette

Patience. These things take time.
Posted by: The San Andreas Fault at June 15, 2021 10:29 AM (k23jE)

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A.
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
Any fucking time, any fucking day
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM (II3Gr)

170 He should have known that playing Achilles with Hector's body wasn't going to work out well for him.

So you're saying the truck owner is gay? That could be a viable defense.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM (NT1XQ)

171 103 I'm going to gues if the grocery store is hiring armed security it isn't the best part of town.
Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2021 10:18 AM (Ojki1)

Gunfire in the canned vegetable aisle is always the tell.
Posted by: Cicero

Mop on aisle 6. Mop needed on aisle 6.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:21 AM (T2Zv1)

-----

Out: Masks Required.
In: Body Armour Required.

Isn't it time to expand and mandate TSA personnel and screenings in every building nationwide?

* Bezos nods head furiously *

Posted by: ShainS at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM (c3dw6)

172
Muh rice bowl!

-- California bureaucrats

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM (pNxlR)

173 >>I've wondered whether LEOs would rather deal with stoners than drunks. Most of the drunks seem more violent.


Never met an ex-cop who didn't try to score some weed from me. Not once.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:35 AM (qHLCi)

174 No face colanders were noted in the news reports.
I think littering should be the charge not murder.
Or, suicide by stupidity.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at June 15, 2021 10:35 AM (FtJ1S)

175

They went all in with pot laced cookies, gummie candies... Unbelievable really.

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:35 AM (9VFzC)

176 The funds, including $22 million earmarked for L.A., would help cities hire experts and staff to assist businesses

We've got to grow the bureaucracy to help you fight the bureaucracy.

Posted by: t-bird at June 15, 2021 10:36 AM (fFtVH)

177 It makes lazy people more lazy, but like fuel injection to productive people. No clue why it works that way.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 15, 2021 10:28 AM (VwHCD)



So, I should stay away from it. Because I'm already practically a sloth.

Posted by: Jordan61, I am the 30% at June 15, 2021 10:36 AM (Ez6QX)

178 Proof that we don't vote for any of this but I don't know exactly who does:

Proposition to raise taxes on already highest taxes on gas--which ALL Californians use--
PASSED.

NO ONE WOULD VOTE FOR THAT except shills, illegals, phantom and dead voters...

Posted by: 5th Gen Californian at June 15, 2021 10:36 AM (l9Soe)

179 This sexy, leggy dame doesn't mind if you smoke a little pot. She hates paying taxes, though, so be sure to bring cash.
https://is.gd/DMWwB6

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2021 10:36 AM (Jsjd7)

180 >>Illegal weed will always be cheaper than legal weed. Because legal weed is taxed.


It is usually slaved to the legal price.

Once taxation grows, your argument will hold.

But right now, the non-licensed growers simply have better product for the same pricing and no State involvement.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:36 AM (qHLCi)

181 No face colanders were noted in the news reports.
I think littering should be the charge not murder.
Or, suicide by stupidity.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at June 15, 2021 10:35 AM (FtJ1S)

Damn. I was hoping Lord Humungus had been located.

"Just walk away...."

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 15, 2021 10:36 AM (YxVzA)

182 176 The funds, including $22 million earmarked for L.A., would help cities hire experts and staff to assist businesses

We've got to grow the bureaucracy to help you fight the bureaucracy.
Posted by: t-bird at June 15, 2021 10:36 AM (fFtVH)

=========

This feels like an incentive structure destined for abuse.

Maybe it's just me. Yeah, it's probably just me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:36 AM (LvTSG)

183
Sorry, but I'll take drunks over dopers any day of the week.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


And that's when the fight started, officer!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2021 10:37 AM (63Dwl)

184 Never met an ex-cop who didn't try to score some weed from me. Not once.

I ment "deal," not "deal."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 15, 2021 10:37 AM (HaL55)

185 CO doesn't seem to have these licensing and other issues. Main problem here, as in all legalized states is the federal banking situation. The situation being that there really isn't one.

The right POTUS Trump was going to be pushing for a federal cannabis banking bill to sort it all out, before he was usurped.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 15, 2021 10:37 AM (Bmy3R)

186 @113 Are you pretty sure you don't want to claim that Midge set him up?
What a buzz kill. You'd have laughed at Old Yeller. Siskel, Ebert, all in one.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 15, 2021 10:38 AM (zMFmR)

187 this was one of the interesting tweets of those dying after the jab

Mr Free Speech - Centrefusenik
@Centrefuter

Wtf is a 'short illness' and why does it keep 'mysteriously' killing young vaccinated BBC presenters?!

https://tinyurl.com/ynpff4xu

This was how they tried to hide it. Short illness. Look at their pictures. This is not normal.

BBC, libs extraordinaire

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:38 AM (9VFzC)

188 Pot heads will always find a way to defend being a pothead. Either they compare it to alcohol as a much better habit or they claim it helps with multiple ailments. I have a different opinion and just rather it not be so easy for people to start and get on that train.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 15, 2021 10:38 AM (2DOZq)

189 "Just walk away...."
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 15, 2021 10:36 AM (YxVzA)
++++
Renee.
You won't find me walking after you.

Posted by: The Four Tops at June 15, 2021 10:38 AM (Jsjd7)

190 Our dissolution proceeds apace.

Posted by: kraken at June 15, 2021 10:38 AM (6Je/Q)

191 Frankly, this is because pot is a sedative. It's something to take and not think about the fact that the state just killed half a million people with their fucking rerun of the tuskegee experiment.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain wants a Real Truth and Reconciliation Commision at June 15, 2021 10:38 AM (k+isc)

192 I'd go with no charges against the driver. The perp was trying to steal the converter, damaged the dudes truck, and then clearly tried to steal the hitch.
Posted by: Diogenes

*fistbump

Someone who tries to saw off the catalytic converter WHILE the owner is in the truck, CLEARLY needs to be removed from the gene pool.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:39 AM (T2Zv1)

193 117 107 CA really should be 3 states. LA area, SF Bay and everything else.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:22 AM (1mLGh)

Too many Dem Senate seats.
Posted by: Underpants Gnome who is now in charge of Cal Economy at June 15, 2021 10:23 AM (oHd/0)

California should be one state, and LA and San Fran should be nuked. Sacramento, too, just because good things should come in threes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:39 AM (trdmm)

194 >>CO doesn't seem to have these licensing and other issues. Main problem here, as in all legalized states is the federal banking situation. The situation being that there really isn't one.


Not just banking.

State Laws are putting people in a position where they are violating Fed Laws by the score if they participate in the System.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:39 AM (qHLCi)

195 #159 We very appreciated your comment supporting peaceful marijuana use....a benign harmless plant..
As opposed to the use of alcohol which is a deadly Nazi rocket fuel.

Posted by: The Cartels at June 15, 2021 10:39 AM (12YfF)

196
Sorry, but I'll take drunks over dopers any day of the week.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

And that's when the fight started, officer!
~~~
Drunks: are you looking at me?!?
Dopes: nah, bro, we're good.

Lol

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 15, 2021 10:39 AM (IDhUW)

197 just in

Alex Berenson
7m
Meanwhile, Paul Zipser, a 27-year-old who played briefly in the @NBA and is now in the German league, just had emergency surgery for a brain bleed following his @JNJNews #Covid vaccination.

Pro athletes are the fittest people in the world. Why on earth would they be vaccinated?


this after the soccer guy almost died on the pitch

Posted by: artisanal ette at June 15, 2021 10:39 AM (9VFzC)

198 Gay driver and an open pussy driver walk into a bar.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 15, 2021 10:39 AM (rB4m/)

199 195 #159 We very appreciated your comment supporting peaceful marijuana use....a benign harmless plant..
As opposed to the use of alcohol which is a deadly Nazi rocket fuel.

Posted by: The Cartels at June 15, 2021 10:39 AM (12YfF)

========

Booze was the tool of violent gangsters in the 20s and 30s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 10:40 AM (LvTSG)

200
Not to digress, but did that trailer hitch happen to have chrome on it?
Posted by: Kamala Harris at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM (fLVm1)


Not anymore...

Posted by: Monica at June 15, 2021 10:40 AM (axyOa)

201 Everyone always focused on CO though which I always found kinda weird.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:31 AM (1mLGh)


Washington didn't have the cool song, "Rocky Mountain High".

Posted by: Emmie at June 15, 2021 10:40 AM (tcsxg)

202 Is the Gallery area near Atlanta is the good or bad part of town?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:16 AM (NT1XQ)

There's a difference?

Posted by: BignJames at June 15, 2021 10:40 AM (AwYPR)

203 Weed or alcohol if used in moderation is fine. When used in excess both fuck you up.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:41 AM (1mLGh)

204 All this talk of Californians moving to Montana makes me sad. I drove through Montana in '89, just before Saddam invaded Kuwait. I loved it and if there had been more jobs there I'd have stayed there. Ever since then I've dreamed about moving there when I retire.

Perhaps western ND or SD will be more reasonable. It's lovely in that neck of the woods too.

Posted by: 496 at June 15, 2021 10:41 AM (U1eOr)

205 #193 I'm about 14 miles from ground zero.
But whatever. Bring in on. Nuke it from orbit... it's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: torabora at June 15, 2021 10:41 AM (12YfF)

206 And I remember Acapulco Gold at about 3% thc in the mid 70's.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM

No stems no seeds you don't need, Acapulco gold is bad ass weed!

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 15, 2021 10:41 AM (JUOKG)

207 Eh. I smoke it on the reg. It's legal here. Y'all know I hike, bike, work out, play guitar. I'm really more active than 90% of the -er - 29-year olds I know.

Doesn't affect my politics. I'm not sure how a weed would. It's never made me into a liberal, not even a little.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 15, 2021 10:42 AM (Bmy3R)

208 Talk about metastasizing cancers, the Atlanta sprawl

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:42 AM (NT1XQ)

209 >>Pro athletes are the fittest people in the world. Why on earth would they be vaccinated?


Because their team requires it? Doubt they do this volutarily.
Black Orchid mentioned all the drugs even HS athletes are likely on that could cause a bad drug interaction.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2021 10:42 AM (bDqIh)

210
Wtf is a 'short illness' and why does it keep 'mysteriously' killing young vaccinated BBC presenters?!


What does pen ... oh, THAT BBC.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 15, 2021 10:42 AM (pNxlR)

211 Drugs are drugs, the delivery systems do vary, and the effects, of course. Alcohol is definitely a mood altering substance, but hugely acceptable in the West.

Posted by: kraken at June 15, 2021 10:42 AM (6Je/Q)

212 There are two dominant strains of marijuana...indica and sativa. Indica will put you down for the count. "In da couch" is how I remember it. Sativa is the opposite. It will focus your attention on the task at hand. Not all pot is the same.

Posted by: creeper at June 15, 2021 10:42 AM (XxJt1)

213 >>> Wet Brain is a thing. Look it up.

A man has got to know his limitations.

Posted by: Inspector Harry Callahan at June 15, 2021 10:42 AM (IjZg7)

214 and no State involvement

If I had an interest in marijuana, that would be a telling argument.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 15, 2021 10:43 AM (T7iTv)

215

this after the soccer guy almost died on the pitch
~~~
I missed this. Details?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 15, 2021 10:43 AM (IDhUW)

216 Only government would try and tax a naturally growing weed.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:43 AM (T2Zv1)

217 And I remember Acapulco Gold at about 3% thc in the mid 70's.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:34 AM

No stems no seeds you don't need, Acapulco gold is bad ass weed!
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 15, 2021 10:41 AM (JUOKG)
***

My friend agrees. But then he only remembers about 3% of the 70's too.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:44 AM (axyOa)

218 I bet the tax revenue generation is always short of what they predicted it would be as well.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 15, 2021 10:44 AM (G2zl5)

219 Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 15, 2021 10:42 AM (Bmy

How is it dodging all those homeless potheads on your biking and hiking trails? Or was that just a myth?

Posted by: Just a side note at June 15, 2021 10:44 AM (2DOZq)

220 You'd have laughed at Old Yeller. Siskel, Ebert, all in one.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 15, 2021 10:38 AM (zMFmR)


I was upset the rabid Yeller didn't bite that worthless fat turd Arlis. Would've been a perfect ending.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 15, 2021 10:44 AM (y7DUB)

221 Who would you rather be around, a drunk, or a stoner?

Posted by: kraken at June 15, 2021 10:44 AM (6Je/Q)

222 When you refuse to solve problems you have to let the sheep smoke themselves stupid lest they figure out that you the government are the problem. Gotta keep the sheep stoned and docile.

Posted by: Guzalot at June 15, 2021 10:44 AM (prSvo)

223 Other ecological disasters brought upon by government:

Kudzu

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (NT1XQ)

224 I missed this. Details?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 15, 2021 10:43 AM (IDhUW)

Euro Cup 2021. Eriksen (midfielder for Denmark) collapsed on the field just before half. He was clinically dead and they resuscitated him with CPR.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (k/TB6)

225 *** big sigh ***

I should expect that I could successfully copy and paste at this point in my life.

Posted by: fluffy at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (IjZg7)

226 Who would you rather be around, a drunk, or a stoner?
Posted by: kraken at June 15, 2021 10:44 AM (6Je/Q)


Which one has the bigger bewbs?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (axyOa)

227 No stems no seeds you don't need, Acapulco gold is bad ass weed!
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 15, 2021 10:41 AM (JUOKG)
++++
But I'm down to seeds and stems.
Again.

Posted by: Commander Cody at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (Jsjd7)

228 I might try an ingestible some day, but it took me years to get my lungs free and clear after almost chronic bronchitis and other problems. I have vowed never to smoke anything of any composition ever again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (trdmm)

229 I'd like to see the infighting that must be going on between the criminal element and the government (criminal) element over the money legalized weed is making.

Staggering comes to mind.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (3H9h1)

230 Mr Smiley, are you a walking contradiction?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (rB4m/)

231 Only government would try and tax a naturally growing weed.

Tell me 'bout it.

Posted by: Roscoe Filburn at June 15, 2021 10:46 AM (nfrXX)

232 #197
Colorado? braggart antivaxer cop loudly refused vaccine. Dead of Covid all the way. 100
His only comorbidity was being an asshoe cop. I'm not making it up. It was in obituary.

Posted by: torabora at June 15, 2021 10:46 AM (12YfF)

233 I smoke pot 1-2x a year, usually on a girl's trip.

I like laughing and being silly, but I get brain fog afterwards and that's not really something I'm comfortable with.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 15, 2021 10:46 AM (W2Pud)

234 Drugs are drugs, the delivery systems do vary, and the effects, of course. Alcohol is definitely a mood altering substance, but hugely acceptable in the West.
Posted by: kraken at June 15, 2021 10:42 AM (6Je/Q)

I'm not a drinker but It's been accepted and necessary throughout human history.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 15, 2021 10:46 AM (2DOZq)

235 Who would you rather be around, a drunk, or a stoner?
Posted by: kraken


Depends on the drunk. I've known some funny, harmless drunks. I've known some drunks I don't want to share the same county with.

Never met a stoner I couldn't be around.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:47 AM (T2Zv1)

236 Garrett...stoner...croc-wearer...messenger-bag user


QED

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2021 10:47 AM (Q9lwr)

237 210
Wtf is a 'short illness' and why does it keep 'mysteriously' killing young vaccinated BBC presenters?!

and here I thought no good could ever come from the vaccine. I stand corrected!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:47 AM (trdmm)

238 I've been assured that marijuana is in the same group as Prozac.

Posted by: SMOD at June 15, 2021 10:47 AM (RHGPo)

239 I have had three friends ruin their life with weed. Went from high-performers and good guys, to potheads who only thought about when they could smoke another bowl. I have a sister in law who abuses harder drugs, including meth.

I'm not tolerant of recreational drug use.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 15, 2021 10:47 AM (V6f9+)

240 >>..stoner...croc-wearer...meseenger-bag user


OK, Berkeley.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:48 AM (94WQw)

241 the chaotic and mushy thinking of the 21st century bureaucrat - You fucked up; you trusted us!

Posted by: Archer at June 15, 2021 10:48 AM (gmo/4)

242 I might try an ingestible some day, but it took me years to get my lungs free and clear after almost chronic bronchitis and other problems.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (trdmm)

Mmmm....brownies!

Posted by: BignJames at June 15, 2021 10:48 AM (AwYPR)

243 I smoke pot 1-2x a year, usually on a girl's trip.

I like laughing and being silly, but I get brain fog afterwards and that's not really something I'm comfortable with.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 15, 2021 10:46 AM (W2Pud)


Have never done it.
Saw what it id to my friend in high school and swore I'd never try. That was ()*&(^% years ago, but no sense in changing now.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:48 AM (axyOa)

244 Fucking up pot production is a new Californicate benchmark.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (y7DUB)

245 I'd like to see the infighting that must be going on between the criminal element and the government (criminal) element over the money legalized weed is making.

Staggering comes to mind.
Posted by: Martini Farmer


And thanks to banking laws, it's all untraceable cash.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (T2Zv1)

246 Pro athletes are very fit! and they got there by using any possible edge they could get over other, equally fit and talented kids/young adults.

I do think MS/HS athletes use performance enhancers MORE than the pros and college ones, because at that point they're being tested for substances.

but what we DON'T know is how use of things like adderall and other PEDs during youth affects your health in adulthood. my feeling is, it has quite an effect!

I think it was MLB that did a deep dive into this, and found a crazy high percentage of baseball pros had "ADHD" and required adderall for it. that's just one

I have personally experienced pressure for my daughter to take: adderall for performance ("just talk to Dr So-andSo"), asthma inhalers for performance, low-dose BPs to remove periods (which harm performance) and coach-recommended "supplements" for "energy."

who the heck knows what all this does to athletes down the road

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (j9HX3)

247 Did someone mention paste?

Posted by: Joe Biden, Time Magazine's Toughest Hombre in the West at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (h5TKJ)

248 Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (k/TB6)
~~~
Thanks

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (IDhUW)

249 I've been assured that marijuana is in the same group as Prozac.
I can recall a piece on NPR a number years ago where the presenter talked about her experience with Prozac. It seemed that she just didn't care any more. The Iraq war was going at the time .. and she just didn't care any more.
When you stop caring, your environment will easily turn to crap.

Posted by: SMOD at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (RHGPo)

250 Government managed to screw up selling dope in California.

Posted by: blaster at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (w2z2p)

251 No current dog in this hunt.... I do none of it... now... but I had a hugely misspent youth, that lingered on until I was no longer a youth. I have wiring that makes me a natural for wretched excesses.

Posted by: kraken at June 15, 2021 10:50 AM (6Je/Q)

252 OK, Berkeley.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:48 AM (94WQw)

My time in Berkeley was without a doubt the biggest contributor to my current conservative political philosophy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2021 10:50 AM (Q9lwr)

253 Mmmm....brownies!
Posted by: BignJames at June 15, 2021 10:48 AM (AwYPR)


Pot store down the road has a machine that makes THC slushies.

Posted by: creeper at June 15, 2021 10:50 AM (XxJt1)

254 When you stop caring, your environment will easily turn to crap.

I agree... I'm really fighting hard to not be that person

Posted by: It's me donna at June 15, 2021 10:50 AM (Zmnko)

255 CBD, we had a SgtMaj who seemed to set up hooch occupancy in Vietnam as drunks, dopers, drunks dopers and down by the wire we had the Jesus Freaks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at June 15, 2021 10:50 AM (I58tH)

256 Business fail all the time for a multitude of reasons - it is all part of a healthy economic system. Bureaucrats intervening for no rhyme or reason just screw up the entire process and accually cause more harm to the entire system.

Posted by: Archer at June 15, 2021 10:50 AM (gmo/4)

257 #231

Wickard v Filburn (1943)
Everyone needs to learn this case.
Farmer forced to pay tax on silage he grew on his farm to feed his cows to feed his family.

'Cause it affected interstate commerce. Don'tyaknow?

FDR sucked. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Posted by: torabora at June 15, 2021 10:51 AM (12YfF)

258 >>> 242 I might try an ingestible some day, but it took me years to get my lungs free and clear after almost chronic bronchitis and other problems.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:45 AM (trdmm)
Mmmm....brownies!

I saw or heard some story about someone ending up in the hospital because they ate a legal pot cookie. Turns out that the dose was supposed to be some fraction of the ingestible.

Who the fuck designed such a product, and for stoners, no less!

Posted by: fluffy at June 15, 2021 10:51 AM (IjZg7)

259 The jokes just write themselves. Why do we talk about "Florida Man" when we have "California Government?"

Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 15, 2021 10:51 AM (+Kpte)

260 If mj ever gets fully legalized, state and federal, I might give it a try. Until then, too much to risk for a buzz.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 15, 2021 10:51 AM (nfrXX)

261 We all live in different worlds and the flavors of liberty are like water.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 15, 2021 10:51 AM (rB4m/)

262 Eh. I smoke it on the reg. It's legal here. Y'all
know I hike, bike, work out, play guitar. I'm really more active than
90% of the -er - 29-year olds I know.



Doesn't affect my politics. I'm not sure how a weed would. It's never made me into a liberal, not even a little.





Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 15, 2021 10:42 AM (Bmy3R)

It always made me want to play guitar more. I always called it breakfast of champions, lol.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 15, 2021 10:52 AM (VwHCD)

263 Government managed to screw up selling dope in California.
Posted by: blaster at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (w2z2p)
++++
This is another example of the failure of federalism and the so-called "American Experiment." When federalized under the auspices of the CIA, government-sponsored drug dealing was wildly effective.

Expertise counts, and experts should be concentrated where they can do the most good. They should be concentrated in the Federal Government, which should morph into an actual top-level governing body in this country. If they can draw expertise from the whole country and across all divisions, their plans can be implemented more effectively, more cheaply and with greater success.

Posted by: Your Kid's Government Professor at June 15, 2021 10:52 AM (Jsjd7)

264 255 CBD, we had a SgtMaj who seemed to set up hooch occupancy in Vietnam as drunks, dopers, drunks dopers and down by the wire we had the Jesus Freaks.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at June 15, 2021 10:50 AM (I58tH)

Well, someone had to have their heads out of their asses, because of that shooty thing going on...

Posted by: kraken at June 15, 2021 10:52 AM (6Je/Q)

265 250 Government managed to screw up selling dope in California.


when you say it like that, it IS quite incredible!

my feeling about pot is, I'd rather grow my own and partake very rarely than go to some dispensary. I wish it had been decriminalized rather than legalized. I don't particularly want the govt involved in pot distribution!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2021 10:52 AM (j9HX3)

266 I have personally experienced pressure for my daughter to take: adderall for performance ("just talk to Dr So-andSo"), asthma inhalers for performance, low-dose BPs to remove periods (which harm performance) and coach-recommended "supplements" for "energy."

who the heck knows what all this does to athletes down the road
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (j9HX3)

this is a topic I was talking about with friends recently. All of us who are a bit older remember when it was very rare to hear of anyone who had seizures - I know one kids dad who had epilepsy, but other than that you never saw it. Now I have two nephews who have had to take some drugs for unexplained seizures, and in today's under 40 crowd, it's almost common, even though nobody talks about it much. Why has what was once rare become so common, and in younger, not older people?

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:52 AM (trdmm)

267 If you put government in charge of the Sahara Desert - soon you'd be hearing about an acute shortage of sand.
-Milton Friedman

Posted by: Archer at June 15, 2021 10:53 AM (gmo/4)

268 Never met a stoner I couldn't be around.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:47 AM (T2Zv1)

Should have met my college roommate and his little buddy. Little criminal assholes pissed everyone off they came into contact with and brazenly stole from me.

That said they seemed very much the exception.

Posted by: ... at June 15, 2021 10:53 AM (842IN)

269 Too high to fail.

Leave it to big gov to fuck up the pot business.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2021 10:53 AM (u6xw0)

270 The one time I tried pot, it made my brain operate independently of my skull. I'd turn my head, and the brain felt as if it were lagging behind. Never experienced that with booze. A foggy brain, yes, and poor coordination and mushy speech, but at least my brain and my skull stayed integrated.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 15, 2021 10:53 AM (/XOcP)

271 Have never done it.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:48 AM (axyOa)

An organization called The United States Military (you may have heard of them... ) had some significant problems with drugs. They cracked down, and I have never heard any complaints!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2021 10:53 AM (Q9lwr)

272 Back in the day a buddy and I made pot spaghetti. Used the weed along with the normal herbs. We had just finished up our dinner and were mellowing out in his mom's basement when she popped in to say the spaghetti was really good.

Bug eyed he was.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 15, 2021 10:53 AM (3H9h1)

273 Leave it to big gov to fuck up the pot business.

Have you seen anything they haven't destroyed?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 15, 2021 10:54 AM (Zmnko)

274 #246 it leads to home run record which will never be beat.

Posted by: Barry Bonds, cheater* at June 15, 2021 10:54 AM (12YfF)

275 Has California legalized prostitution yet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:54 AM (NT1XQ)

276 Leave it to big gov to fuck up the pot business.
Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2021 10:53 AM (u6xw0)
++++
This one can be wildly simplified.

Posted by: Your Kid's Government Professor at June 15, 2021 10:54 AM (Jsjd7)

277 Wickard v Filburn (1943)
Everyone needs to learn this case.
Farmer forced to pay tax on silage he grew on his farm to feed his cows to feed his family.

'Cause it affected interstate commerce. Don'tyaknow?

FDR sucked. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Posted by: torabora

And Texas is going to pass a "Silencer" law that says silencers made in Texas and never leaving Texas are not subject to NFA laws.

Yeah. Right.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2021 10:54 AM (T2Zv1)

278 Ugh. Sockoff.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2021 10:55 AM (Jsjd7)

279 When you stop caring, your environment will easily turn to crap.
Posted by: SMOD at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (RHGPo)


I stopped caring about your dumbass comments and you still turn the site to shit.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 15, 2021 10:55 AM (y7DUB)

280 Have you seen anything they haven't destroyed?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 15, 2021 10:54 AM


Government.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2021 10:55 AM (m+jkK)

281 275 Has California legalized prostitution yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:54 AM (NT1XQ)

Nah.... the New Victorians won't hear of it.

Posted by: kraken at June 15, 2021 10:55 AM (6Je/Q)

282 #273

Have you seen what it's done for us?

Posted by: Iraq at June 15, 2021 10:55 AM (12YfF)

283 Government.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2021 10:55 AM (m+jkK)
++++
They eventually destroy that, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2021 10:55 AM (Jsjd7)

284 down by the wire we had the Jesus Freaks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at June 15, 2021 10:50 AM (I58tH)

Probably not a bad plan....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2021 10:55 AM (Q9lwr)

285 Should have met my college roommate and his little buddy. Little criminal assholes pissed everyone off they came into contact with and brazenly stole from me.

That said they seemed very much the exception.
Posted by: ... at June 15, 2021 10:53 AM (842IN

Not really. My problem is everything was centered around pot 24/7 whereas alcohol was for weekend party .

Posted by: Just a side note at June 15, 2021 10:56 AM (2DOZq)

286 OK, Berkeley.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 10:48 AM (94WQw)

My time in Berkeley was without a doubt the biggest contributor to my current conservative political philosophy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2021 10:50 AM (Q9lwr)
***

One of my most interesting profs at Washington State was a self proclaimed Marxist, Anarchist, atheist. He taught a great comparative politics course. He made it very clear that it was totally OK to be a conservative capitalist. Just understand why you are. Great guy. One of the reasons I am the conservative capitalist, constitutional republic supporter that I am today.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:56 AM (axyOa)

287 Have you seen anything they haven't destroyed?

...but I digress.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2021 10:56 AM (u6xw0)

288 Posted by: Your Kid's Government Professor at June
~~~
Whoever is doing this is amazingly accurate. It is not exaggeration to make a point. It is an inside look at the mind of the enemy that is teaching our youth.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 15, 2021 10:56 AM (IDhUW)

289 Nah.... the New Victorians won't hear of it.
Posted by: kraken at June 15, 2021 10:55 AM (6Je/Q)

Are you kidding? They made the biggest hooker in the country Biden's successor.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:56 AM (trdmm)

290 Giving money to Pot farmers to help with licensing is a way to payoff the Mexican Drug Cartels. This is protection money. Pure graft and money laundering.

Posted by: Spiff The Spaceman at June 15, 2021 10:57 AM (GTywR)

291 I have never seen a violent stoner. Ive seen plenty of violent drunks.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:57 AM (1mLGh)

292 I have never seen a violent stoner. Ive seen plenty of violent drunks.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:57 AM (1mLGh)

You need to get out more.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2021 10:58 AM (Q9lwr)

293 California has legalized prostitution. All you have to do is be a Democrat politician.
Just ask Kamela Harris.

Posted by: torabora at June 15, 2021 10:58 AM (12YfF)

294 Yes Mannix has a freaky insight into the inner workings of the average activist lefty.

Posted by: ... at June 15, 2021 10:58 AM (842IN)

295 Over at This Ain't Hell, it seems Associates with Paleostinians is having the vapors over the military losing firearms that are ending up on the streets connected to crimes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 10:59 AM (NT1XQ)

296 As for pot affecting people, years ago, when I worked as a courier van driver, I got my best friend a good-paying job at the terminal. He did okay for a while . . . and then got fired for smoking pot in the van while at work. Bad as I was with the liquor, I never did used at work. (Maybe I would have eventually, and gotten killed in a crash, but I quite before that happened.) But he had not been smoking for more than a couple of years at that point. It had already taken him over.

He's still married and lives in Florida now. I send him an email every year on his birthday. He rarely answers.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 15, 2021 10:59 AM (/XOcP)

297 "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." R. R.

Cali pot business is doomed.

Posted by: tbodie at June 15, 2021 10:59 AM (VzbI8)

298 OT, is there any recent news about the leaking nuke reactor in China?

Posted by: creeper at June 15, 2021 10:59 AM (XxJt1)

299
My time in Berkeley was without a doubt the biggest contributor to my current conservative political philosophy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Testify! What I was seeing was the best and wisest being a lefty had to offer?

Thanks for confirming my bias agin ye!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 15, 2021 10:59 AM (pNxlR)

300 An organization called The United States Military (you may have heard of them... ) had some significant problems with drugs. They cracked down, and I have never heard any complaints!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2021 10:53 AM (Q9lwr)

Heh.
My first job as a 2LT was as an Ammo Platoon Leader for an 8 inch artillery battalion. We had to be nuclear certified and I had to co-sign for the classified government high explosives...and the codes that went with them. We were death on drugs. Absolutely so. Even drinking too much.
Nobody complained.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 10:59 AM (axyOa)

301 291 I have never seen a violent stoner. Ive seen plenty of violent drunks.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:57 AM (1mLGh)

You are fortunate to not have run into a paranoid delusion. Not sure if it's due to the crazy THC levels stuff it at now or what... I've never partaken myself so my knowledge is not great, nor first hand.

Posted by: Inogame at June 15, 2021 11:00 AM (53oGX)

302

Illinois' adult-use program has a strong social equity and minority bent with 25 percent of the tax dollars collected from marijuana sales designated for restorative justice grants, while other funds will support substance misuse and mental health treatment. In May Illinois was making nearly $31 million in social equity grants available to identified as economically distressed.

https://tinyurl.com/3j8nu7h3

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2021 11:00 AM (63Dwl)

303 >>It always made me want to play guitar more. I always called it breakfast of champions, lol.


Like me, you are a menace to Society.

Stand back. I'm about to get high and fix some shit.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 11:00 AM (pA+g7)

304 The marijuana is struggling! We must do something! *hic* *toke*

Posted by: Suburban Pot Moms at June 15, 2021 11:00 AM (TKmok)

305 I have never seen a violent stoner. Ive seen plenty of violent drunks.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:57 AM (1mLGh)


There was an article written a couple years ago by the spouse of an ER doc who was always coming home and talking about the violent things stoners did. Pretty surprising. I wish I could track it down - it doesn't fit the normal stereotypical stoner image. Anyone have the article?

Posted by: 496 at June 15, 2021 11:00 AM (U1eOr)

306 298 OT, is there any recent news about the leaking nuke reactor in China?
Posted by: creeper at June 15, 2021 10:59 AM (XxJt1)

if the truth be told, they all leak over there. Leak like a Chinese bio lab, they do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 11:00 AM (trdmm)

307 Yes Mannix has a freaky insight into the inner workings of the average activist lefty.
Posted by: ... at June 15, 2021 10:58 AM (842IN)


He's scary good at composing those posts.

Posted by: Jordan61, I am the 30% at June 15, 2021 11:01 AM (Ez6QX)

308 OT, is there any recent news about the leaking nuke reactor in China?

"Rumors of a 50ft tall Winnie the Xi are just that romors!" - Beijing media.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 11:01 AM (NT1XQ)

309 94 Yes Mannix has a freaky insight into the inner workings of the average activist lefty.
~~~
Oh, is it Mannix?

Did have a recent sock fail that made me do a double take.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 15, 2021 11:01 AM (IDhUW)

310 Loki from the sidebar.

A friend I trust watched it and really liked it. All the You Tubers that I've been watching hate it.

Reading the description in the sidebar, though, it would seem that throwing the chaos and trickster god into the realm of three space lizards who control and enforce "fate" and predetermine everything would be putting Loki in the one situation where he'd be the actual and for-real hero.

But it's Disney, so I suppose I won't get my hopes up.

Posted by: Synova at June 15, 2021 11:02 AM (BD/yx)

311 I think it was MLB that did a deep dive into this, and found a crazy high percentage of baseball pros had "ADHD" and required adderall for it

There were also a huge percentage of elite distance runners who were "asthmatic". Amazing how successful the sickly are. I never see an inhaler in their back pocket, either, which you would think would be flirting with death.

Posted by: t-bird at June 15, 2021 11:02 AM (lIIT7)

312 Illinois' adult-use program has a strong social equity and minority bent with 25 percent of the tax dollars collected from marijuana sales designated for restorative justice grants, while other funds will support substance misuse and mental health treatment. In May Illinois was making nearly $31 million in social equity grants available to identified as economically distressed.

https://tinyurl.com/3j8nu7h3
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2021 11:00 AM (63Dwl)
++++
And this is why I voted against both legal weed and casino gaming expansion when I lived in CO. Both were framed as a way to raise money for the schools and social programs. No bid.

I am not opposed to legal weed and table gaming at casinos on principle, but I am entirely opposed to using it as a regressive tax to fund organizations that poison the minds of children and want me dead.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2021 11:02 AM (Jsjd7)

313 OT, is there any recent news about the leaking nuke reactor in China?

Turn off all your lights and shut the curtains. Look in the mirror. Are you glowing?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 11:02 AM (axyOa)

314 Sellier & Bellot 9mm Luger 115gr. FMJ 50rd Box; $20; https://bit.ly/3pWaKAZ

Posted by: bonhomme at June 15, 2021 11:02 AM (YYlyE)

315 >>> My first job as a 2LT was as an Ammo Platoon Leader for an 8 inch artillery battalion.

I was under the impression that ground based arty maxed out at 155 mm.

Put me some knowledge?

Posted by: fluffy at June 15, 2021 11:03 AM (IjZg7)

316 310 Reading the description in the sidebar, though, it would seem that throwing the chaos and trickster god into the realm of three space lizards who control and enforce "fate" and predetermine everything would be putting Loki in the one situation where he'd be the actual and for-real hero.

But it's Disney, so I suppose I won't get my hopes up.
Posted by: Synova at June 15, 2021 11:02 AM (BD/yx)

===========

I imagine a less aggravating way to deal with the idea would be for the time lizards to say, "We've dropped the ball, and we're going to fix it." Instead of, "Yeah, we were fine with Thanos wiping out have of the universe."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 15, 2021 11:03 AM (LvTSG)

317 286

I had two profs tht were the same. Both said on day 1, I am a leftist but I will give you both sides and encourage you to keep an open mind.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 11:03 AM (1mLGh)

318 M109 Paladin is 155mm.

The M110 was 8in or 210mm.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2021 11:03 AM (NT1XQ)

319
I wonder how many arm wrestling takedowns Slo Jo scored against Pooty-Poot today?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 15, 2021 11:03 AM (pNxlR)

320 I wonder how many arm wrestling takedowns Slo Jo scored against Pooty-Poot today?

It's tomorrow I believe?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 15, 2021 11:04 AM (Zmnko)

321 Nood.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at June 15, 2021 11:04 AM (gfZdc)

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Posted by: bonhomme at June 15, 2021 11:04 AM (YYlyE)

323 319
I wonder how many arm wrestling takedowns Slo Jo scored against Pooty-Poot today?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 15, 2021 11:03 AM (pNxlR)

I'm hoping for a double shirtless pic on the cover of Time...

Posted by: Inogame at June 15, 2021 11:04 AM (53oGX)

324 He's scary good at composing those posts.
Concur.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 15, 2021 11:05 AM (HaL55)

325 Garrett I sat and listened to Kashmir for the first time in over a decade - completely open mind and zero expectations - and it was an almost transcendental experience. I was actually amazed at how awesome it still is. The song moves me.

Haven't sat with IMTOD yet.

Posted by: ... at June 15, 2021 11:05 AM (842IN)

326 "Many cannabis growers, retailers and manufacturers have struggled to make the transition from a provisional, temporary license to a permanent one renewed on an annual basis"

I was gonna get a pot license, but then I got high
I was gonna be totally legit, but then I got high
Now they closed my store, and I know why
Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high

Posted by: mmack at June 15, 2021 11:05 AM (pQuLh)

327 OT, is there any recent news about the leaking nuke reactor in China?

Everything is fine, because you can't prove we funded any of it.

Posted by: Jenna Pisaki at June 15, 2021 11:05 AM (KfC1e)

328 Broad daylight Walgreens robbery in front of a security guard in SF:

https://tinyurl.com/7npnwapy

Posted by: m at June 15, 2021 11:06 AM (Zsfob)

329 Stand back. I'm about to get high and fix some shit.
Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2021 11:00 AM (pA+g7)

A puff and few Heinekens gets me cranking Sabbath. Every. Time.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2021 11:06 AM (u6xw0)

330 249 I've been assured that marijuana is in the same group as Prozac.
I can recall a piece on NPR a number years ago where the presenter talked about her experience with Prozac. It seemed that she just didn't care any more. ...

Posted by: SMOD at June 15, 2021 10:49 AM (RHGPo)
----------------

Rush thought Prozac had a profound affect on people's interaction with the world and political perspective, he stopped voicing that opinion after they nailed him for pain killers.

I don't think it changed his opinion.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 15, 2021 11:06 AM (byI+W)

331 In my most recent college course with a leftist (Probability) professor, we started our class with a daily devotional of OrangeManBad.

Would it surprise you to learn that the ladies' grades correlated to skirt length?

Posted by: Emmie at June 15, 2021 11:07 AM (tcsxg)

332 My first job as a 2LT was as an Ammo Platoon Leader for an 8 inch artillery battalion.

I was under the impression that ground based arty maxed out at 155 mm.

Put me some knowledge?
Posted by: fluffy at June 15, 2021 11:03 AM (IjZg7)

The Army retained the 175mm and 8 in (203mm) up into the early 90's. Then they dropped the 175s and 8in (some may yet be in the reserves/NG...not sure) in order to go with a common caliber. Weight was an issue. For every 8 in round, you could carry two 155s.
Interestingly, only 1 8inch battalion made it into Desert Storm and they were from the Arkansas/Tenn NG. Great guys and I have a ton of stories about them We made them General Support to the 1st Brit Armored Division and the Brits loved them.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2021 11:07 AM (axyOa)

333 M109 Paladin is 155mm.
The M110 was 8in or 210mm.
Posted by: Anna Puma

I am impress. Not surprised at all, but impress.

Posted by: fluffy at June 15, 2021 11:07 AM (IjZg7)

334 It was Alex Berenson talking about the surprising dangers of marijuana:

https://tinyurl.com/a6cfv2kf

Posted by: 496 at June 15, 2021 11:10 AM (U1eOr)

335
Back in the day a buddy and I made pot spaghetti. Used the weed along with the normal herbs. We had just finished up our dinner and were mellowing out in his mom's basement when she popped in to say the spaghetti was really good.

Bug eyed he was.
Posted by: Martini Farmer


LOL

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 15, 2021 11:11 AM (pNxlR)

336 When OK first started Marijuana clinics I couldn't believe the number of stores. Roland, OK had at least five on Hwy 64. I was thinking the pie would be cut too small, but I was wrong.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at June 15, 2021 11:12 AM (I58tH)

337 Kim Novak>High Anxiety>Vertigo

Posted by: Braenyard at June 15, 2021 11:13 AM (byI+W)

338 Pot is the Gateway Drug.

You smoke a little, next thing you know your selling your ass behind the Family Dollar Store dumpster for a hit.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 15, 2021 11:15 AM (YxVzA)

339 @312

I have a friend who's in his late 70s and has lived in NJ his whole life, he remembers a time before the income tax, gas tax, lottery, indexed property taxes, fees, tolls, you name it.

Literally everything was pitched as a way to fund schools, and if you ask a typical leftist the solution to failing schools, it's always more funding.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 15, 2021 11:15 AM (Sdd1I)

340 have never seen a violent stoner. Ive seen plenty of violent drunks.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 15, 2021 10:57 AM (1mLGh)

Most if not all gang bangers are weed smokers. I'm sure you've also heard of Jamaican gangs.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 15, 2021 11:15 AM (2DOZq)

341 Didn't California invest many millions in the Frankenstein fetal stem cell research?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 15, 2021 11:15 AM (yQpMk)

342 193 California should be one state, and LA and San Fran should be nuked. Sacramento, too, just because good things should come in threes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2021 10:39 AM (trdmm)

Or good things come in trees. Like snipers.

Posted by: m at June 15, 2021 11:18 AM (Zsfob)

343 Jon Stewart thread up.

Posted by: m at June 15, 2021 11:19 AM (Zsfob)

344 I did an energy assessment in a MJ greenhouse here recently.

They are struggling because there are already too many people in the market. They want to sell lettuce at gold prices. Eventually something has to give, and it is the dumb businesses that think they can make money off lettuce when it is legal.

Posted by: Loki, looking to water the Tree of Liberty at June 15, 2021 11:26 AM (8uQ4F)

345 have never seen a violent stoner.
Lucky guy. You have just been keeping the right company, is all.
Certain class of people, not to get all ethnic about it, play up that aspect.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 15, 2021 11:28 AM (zMFmR)

346 Yeah, Friedman would have had fun with this example. California's "weed distribution system" was profitable for decades when it was fully illegal, and people risked long prison sentences for engaging in it. Now that it's legal and regulated, only the well-connected (with the gubmint) dealers can get by, and they need state subsidies at that.

Posted by: Casper at June 15, 2021 11:34 AM (Bdsel)

347 This is ingenious. The pot growers are struggling because of California's permits, fees and taxes. So California is giving money to the growers so the growers can turn around and give it all back to California.

I think they call that money laundering.

Posted by: ronalds545 at June 15, 2021 12:04 PM (pT4Fd)

348 Only the govt. could. fuck up selling weed...

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