Chinese Military Scientist Applied for Patent For Covid Vaccine Before the Official Acknowledgement That Covid Existed -- and Died "Mysteriously" Weeks Later<br>Plus: Kill The Cathedral

Chinese Military Scientist Applied for Patent For Covid Vaccine Before the Official Acknowledgement That Covid Existed -- and Died "Mysteriously" Weeks Later
Plus: Kill The Cathedral

Trust the experts. As you would a saint, or a living God.

Chinese military scientist 'filed a patent for a COVID-19 vaccine BEFORE the virus was declared a global pandemic and worked closely with 'bat woman' at Wuhan institute'
* Scientist Yusen Zhou reportedly filed a patent for a COVID-19 vaccine on behalf of China's People's Liberation Army on February 24 2020
* China had only declared human transmission of the virus five weeks prior
* News that Zhou filed a patent for a vaccine so quickly suggests Chinese officials may have known about the virus much earlier than they admitted
* Zhou is also said to have worked closely with the deputy director of the Wuhan Institute of Virology
* Some scientists have theorized that the virus was created inside that lab before it inadvertently leaked out
* Zhou died in mysterious circumstances in May 2020 - less than three months after filing the patent

A Chinese military scientist with ties to the United States reportedly filed a patent for a COVID-19 vaccine well before the disease was declared a global pandemic.
Yusen Zhou, who worked for the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), lodged the paperwork on behalf of the Chinese political party on February 24 2020, according to The Australian newspaper.
That date was just five weeks after China first confirmed human transmission of the coronavirus.
Zhou is also said to have 'worked closely' with scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), including Shi Zhengli - the deputy director of the lab who is famous for her research on coronavirus in bats.
Their relationship is likely to strengthen speculation that the virus leaked from the lab and that China was aware that it was spreading between humans long before they alerted the international community.
Zhou mysteriously died less than three months after he filed the patent. The New York Post claims his death was only reported in one Chinese media report, despite the fact he was one of the country's most prominent scientists.

Zhou did not kill himself.

Interesting pushback from Deplorable Jay Guevera:

124 This patent application thing is a nothing burger until and unless the published application adds a LOT more damning information. (It hasn't been published yet; I checked.)
The entire world now is "first-to-file" (the US used to be "first-to-invent," which was changed by the "America Invents Act), and so there is a strong incentive to file a patent application at the first serious glimmering of an idea. Waiting until you work out the details is a recipe for losing priority to someone else.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

In other words, just file any old patent filled with bullshit and guesses that might give you some legal pretext to sue upon later, huh?

Here's a very good essay about "The New Clerisy," prosperous NPR liberals (including NeverTrump-type liberal Republicans) as well as doltish, unsuccessful aspirants to the educated, monied class, who have festishized a Bill-Nye-the-Science-Guy level of understanding of science into a new, intolerant, angry religion.

And Anthony Fauci is the current pope who cannot be allowed to fall.

Some time during the George W. Bush presidency, Democrats began proudly calling themselves "the party of science."
...
This new science-based identity was congruous with the ascendance of a key demographic within the Democratic coalition, one that would be instrumental in electing and re-electing President Barack Obama. Prosperous, educated professionals, once a reliable, if liberal, Republican voting bloc, had for some time been shifting their partisan allegiance. As the GOP was increasingly drawing in rural and blue collar voters and, accordingly, elevating cultural issues like guns and religion that were imperative to them, the Democrats were burnishing their appeal to urban and suburban college graduates by embracing free trade, emphasizing identity-based issues like abortion and gay rights, and proudly espousing their commitment to expert-driven, technocratic governance. This rebranding from a workers' party to the party of sober, rational, informed wonkiness flattered these new Democratic voters’ self-conception.
Today, in the age of biological and ecological emergency, the Democrats' scientific brand has taken center stage again, reflected in an assertion that has become something of a mantra: "I believe in science." The line is recited by presidential candidates and printed on face masks. It was uttered by the first American to receive the Covid vaccine after FDA emergency use authorization. It had its very own annual march during the Trump years. It’s enshrined in the oath of the "In This Household We Believe" lawn sign.
To political fellow travelers, its message is unmistakable: it's a declaration of the intellectual maturity and independence from groupthink of the left-of-center. Yet in reality, it has come to indicate the opposite. The Democratic Party has become the party not of science, but of fealty to the clerics of science. "I believe in science" has come to mean, "I do not question expert authority," which is as antithetical to the scientific spirit as you can get. The more gravely the line is intoned, the more Orwellian it becomes.

...
The modern scientific research industry is like a cross between a giant perpetual motion machine and a game of musical chairs. Scientific research is underwritten, in large part, by a steady stream of government funding. To keep the lights on in their labs, scientists need to tap into that stream. They do so by designing research projects that conform to whatever the government prioritizes at any particular moment.... The successful scientist is the one who is particularly adept at writing fundable grant applications pegged to some politically salient research objective, and then generating laboratory results that make some sort of incremental progress toward that objective to justify a renewal of that grant funding in the next cycle.
...
Anthony Fauci is the Platonic form of the scientist-technician-bureaucrat, which is why he has held his position as one of the top scientists in the nation for decades and through multiple administrations. As a creature of both science and politics, he has made himself indispensable as an interface between the two worlds and as the individual best positioned to mold the former to suit the needs of the latter. After 9/11, he transformed NIH into the agency at the front line of defending America against the imminent threat of jihadis armed with weaponized plague viruses. He championed "gain-of-function" research, which essentially meant building those superviruses before the terrorists did, the better to find vaccines for them. And once the Islamic terrorist threat faded a bit from our collective memory, he re-tooled this heftily-funded research into humanity's front line of defense against Mother Nature, "the worst bioterrorist." Unfortunately for Fauci, in the process, he may have -- oops! -- created one of the biggest pandemics in human history.

Whoops!

Whoopsie!

A fun article from The Guardian a couple of weeks ago, worrying that if Fauci and the experts turn out to have been wrong about covid's origins, the pillars of the political religion called "Sciencism" (or The Cult of the Experts) will be razed to the ground.

There was a time when the Covid pandemic seemed to confirm so many of our assumptions. It cast down the people we regarded as villains. It raised up those we thought were heroes. It prospered people who could shift easily to working from home even as it problematized the lives of those Trump voters living in the old economy.
Like all plagues, Covid often felt like the hand of God on earth, scourging the people for their sins against higher learning and visibly sorting the righteous from the unmasked wicked. "Respect science," admonished our yard signs. And lo!, Covid came and forced us to do so, elevating our scientists to the highest seats of social authority, from where they banned assembly, commerce, and all the rest.
We cast blame so innocently in those days. We scolded at will. We knew who was right and we shook our heads to behold those in the wrong playing in their swimming pools and on the beach. It made perfect sense to us that Donald Trump, a politician we despised, could not grasp the situation, that he suggested people inject bleach, and that he was personally responsible for more than one super-spreading event. Reality itself punished leaders like him who refused to bow to expertise. The prestige news media even figured out a way to blame the worst death tolls on a system of organized ignorance they called "populism."

But these days the consensus doesn't consense quite as well as it used to. Now the media is filled with disturbing stories suggesting that Covid might have come -- not from "populism" at all, but from a laboratory screw-up in Wuhan, China. You can feel the moral convulsions beginning as the question sets in: What if science itself is in some way culpable for all this?
...
What if this crazy story turns out to be true?
The answer is that this is the kind of thing that could obliterate the faith of millions. The last global disaster, the financial crisis of 2008, smashed people’s trust in the institutions of capitalism, in the myths of free trade and the New Economy, and eventually in the elites who ran both American political parties.

In the years since (and for complicated reasons), liberal leaders have labored to remake themselves into defenders of professional rectitude and established legitimacy in nearly every field. In reaction to the fool Trump, liberalism made a sort of cult out of science, expertise, the university system, executive-branch "norms," the "intelligence community," the State Department, NGOs, the legacy news media, and the hierarchy of credentialed achievement in general.
...
Should it turn out that scientists and experts and NGOs, etc. are villains rather than heroes of this story, we may very well see the expert-worshiping values of modern liberalism go up in a fireball of public anger.
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The news media, in its zealous policing of the boundaries of the permissible, insisted that Russiagate was ever so true but that the lab-leak hypothesis was false false false, and woe unto anyone who dared disagree. Reporters gulped down whatever line was most flattering to the experts they were quoting and then insisted that it was 100% right and absolutely incontrovertible -- that anything else was only unhinged Trumpist folly, that democracy dies when unbelievers get to speak, and so on.
The social media monopolies actually censored posts about the lab-leak hypothesis. Of course they did! Because we’re at war with misinformation, you know, and people need to be brought back to the true and correct faith -- as agreed upon by experts.
***

If it does indeed turn out that the lab-leak hypothesis is the right explanation for how it began -- that the common people of the world have been forced into a real-life lab experiment, at tremendous cost -- there is a moral earthquake on the way.
Because if the hypothesis is right, it will soon start to dawn on people that our mistake was not insufficient reverence for scientists, or inadequate respect for expertise, or not enough censorship on Facebook. It was a failure to think critically about all of the above, to understand that there is no such thing as absolute expertise. Think of all the disasters of recent years: economic neoliberalism, destructive trade policies, the Iraq War, the housing bubble, banks that are "too big to fail," mortgage-backed securities, the Hillary Clinton campaign of 2016 -- all of these disasters brought to you by the total, self-assured unanimity of the highly educated people who are supposed to know what they're doing, plus the total complacency of the highly educated people who are supposed to be supervising them.

You can drop the ifs. The lab leak hypothesis is the lab leak fact.

Ben Domenech: Biden and Pelosi don't have the real power in the country.

"The Cathedral," as Michael Malice named it* -- the loose but vicious conspiracy of prosperous upper-class liberals and the "expert" cult they worship, as well as the permanent bureaucratic government (and have no doubt, every bureaucrat thinks of himself as an expert) -- has the real power.

I feel like Andy McCarthy should be vouching for the integrity and honesty of Peter Daszack and Shi Zengli any moment now.

I mean, that's all this fucker does. He asks, "But did they get good grades at Dartmouth?" and if the answer is yes, he, like all other "expert" bureaucrats, swears for the honor of his fellow tribal cultist.

* Bourbon Chicken points out that Mencius Moldbug first named the Cathedral. I think he's right. Malice has popularized it since.

Posted by: Ace at 02:06 PM

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1 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:06 PM (XvPQV)

2
Also, boobs
( . ) ( . )

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:06 PM (XvPQV)

3 Ok, now to fetch the others

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:06 PM (XvPQV)

4 China. Patent. Good one.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2021 01:07 PM (EjmvJ)

5 Ben Domenech has Joe Biden eyes.

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 07, 2021 01:08 PM (cSyAR)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)

7 Zhou did not kill himself.

**

THIS GUY GETS IT!!!
- Hank Aaron

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:08 PM (XSoJN)

8 A fun article from The Guardian a couple of weeks ago, worrying that if Fauci and the experts turn out to have been wrong about covid's origins, the pillars of the political religion called "Sciencism" (or The Cult of the Experts) will be razed to the ground.

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Incorrect.

The religion will continue to thrive after expelling this one bad priest.

The other priests are all good and true.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

9 Jeebus, it really dangerous to work for commies.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 07, 2021 01:08 PM (/MaDp)

10 I said new thread. yay me

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 07, 2021 01:08 PM (4a9Vv)

11
Whoa.

Anyone else get the ad for death-planning?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 07, 2021 01:08 PM (prQ8Y)

12 trading with China is insane, suicidal, mental.

Posted by: x4 at June 07, 2021 01:08 PM (oA+QO)

13 Moldbug named the Cathedral.

A thoughtful ex liberal who is well read.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 07, 2021 01:09 PM (po9ly)

14 Someone tells Biden and Pelosi what to do. It's not a 'loose association' of liberals. It's a small cabal, Oligarchs.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:09 PM (XvPQV)

15 Also boobs.

( . ) ( . )

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)

16 >>>The other priests are all good and true.

well.. the faith will be rocked, though

"Trust the experts" won't quite have the same authoritative ring

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:09 PM (0G13K)

17 The Russians had the .44cal Flu; the Chinese are cheaper they have the .38spl Flu.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2021 01:09 PM (Xih1H)

18 Jeebus, it really dangerous to work for commies.
Posted by: Puddin Head

Or Hillary - birm.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 01:09 PM (Rvt88)

19 >>>13 Moldbug named the Cathedral.

oh right

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (0G13K)

20 *Swaps posts 1 and 6*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (XvPQV)

21 "The Cathedral," as Michael Malice named it -- the loose but vicious conspiracy of prosperous upper-class liberals and the "expert" cult they worship, as well as the permanent bureaucratic government (and have no doubt, every bureaucrat thinks of himself as an expert) -- has the real power.

Gaslight, Inc runs the country.

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (DJFLF)

22 Today, in the age of biological and ecological emergency, the Democrats'
scientific brand has taken center stage again, reflected in an
assertion that has become something of a mantra: "I believe in science."
But have, of course, never taken any actual science courses, much less pursued degrees in those areas. IOW, you're posers.

Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (v16oJ)

23 16 >>>The other priests are all good and true.

well.. the faith will be rocked, though

"Trust the experts" won't quite have the same authoritative ring
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:09 PM (0G13K)

===========

That's true. It will lose adherents, but SCIENCISM will continue strong, just not as strong as before. This weakening will make the remaining adherents even less bearable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (LvTSG)

24 Between COVID and Maricopa, when these two news trains finally result in bombshell revelations big enough to wake the LIVs from their gaslight-induced slumber, things will get real sporty around here.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (mdjgu)

25 Old and busted: Donate to the church to purchase indulgences and be cleaned of sin.

New hotness: Donate the democratic party to purchase indulgences and be cleaned of sin.

Posted by: Flyguy at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (3sOO0)

26 I should turn off the Internets and get some writing done. Something fun, maybe Tanya Winters versus Yalie Nazi wanna-be who dresses like Eva Braun in private?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (WU2VI)

27 Someone tells Biden and Pelosi what to do. It's not a 'loose association' of liberals. It's a small cabal, Oligarchs.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:09 PM (XvPQV)

We are beyond the vanguard of the proletariat. This is Central Committee stuff.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (axyOa)

28 Moldbug

https://graymirror.substack.com/

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 07, 2021 01:11 PM (po9ly)

29 Which "vaccine" did Yusen Zhou try to patent? The Pfizer type, the JandJ type...or something else?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2021 01:11 PM (DpkTQ)

30 How many Chinese bilionaires have also not killed themselves?

I'm sure he died so that he could not be interviewed, but holding the patent for the cure during a pandemic would probably be incredibly lucrative, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2021 01:11 PM (bDqIh)

31 Anyone that thinks a guy can have himself mutilated and magically become a girl doesn't understand science anyway.

I like to point out that the doctor that discovered stomach ulcers were caused by a virus fought for ten years before that was accepted. And I'm sure there are still doctors out there that don't know that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 01:11 PM (5HBd1)

32 Shaka, when the virus escaped.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 07, 2021 01:11 PM (vuisn)

33 "The Cathedral," as Michael Malice named it -- the loose but vicious conspiracy of prosperous upper-class liberals and the "expert" cult they worship, as well as the permanent bureaucratic government (and have no doubt, every bureaucrat thinks of himself as an expert) -- has the real power.

The "Cathedral" comes from Neal Stephenson's "The Cathedral and the Bazaar," if I'm not mistaken. It was initially used to compare large centralized organizations versus small, decentralized ones in the realm of computer software.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:11 PM (jOcSX)

34 i added an asterisk noting that Moldberg called it that first

I met him, by the way. He knew of my work. (He said, boastfully.)

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:11 PM (0G13K)

35 Fake, fake all of it fake. We will not allow this kind of anti Asian misinformation on our platforms. Hey by the way did you hear Trump had 3 scoops of ice cream as he laughed at African children dying of starvation?

- Google, Facebook, Twitter

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 07, 2021 01:11 PM (DlG3S)

36 well.. the faith will be rocked, though

"Trust the experts" won't quite have the same authoritative ring
Not to worry. They'll cut out a few beating hearts and everything will be jake again.

Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 01:11 PM (v16oJ)

37 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy who shouts "En fuego!" at June 07, 2021 01:12 PM (DMUuz)

38 The fact that the world hasn't voted to overthrow the Chinese government shows just exactly how corrupt the world is and how fucked the little people are.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:12 PM (Zz0t1)

39 Someone tells Biden and Pelosi what to do. It's not a 'loose association' of liberals. It's a small cabal, Oligarchs.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:09 PM (XvPQV)

We are beyond the vanguard of the proletariat. This is Central Committee stuff.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (axyOa)

Jah. No way policy makers and front men would submit to a loose conglomeration.

It's probably not one man, but it's a small number of people making decisions for the Junta.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:12 PM (XvPQV)

40 >>>The "Cathedral" comes from Neal Stephenson's "The Cathedral and the Bazaar," if I'm not mistaken. It was initially used to compare large centralized organizations versus small, decentralized ones in the realm of computer software.

i think this is a different use of the term, tho

besides i already corrected once. If I correct my past error again, I'll Fauci myself.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:12 PM (0G13K)

41 Not for nothing but I've said all along that if they released this thing they would already have the vaccine for it.

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:12 PM (8dVNa)

42 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (arJlL)

43 Have the Indians (dot, not feather) calmed down yet? Seemed like they were warming up their nukes.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (Xih1H)

44 hiya JT

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (0G13K)

45 Shaka, when the virus escaped.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 07, 2021 01:11 PM (vuisn)

THAT'S A STAR TREK REFERENCE

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (XvPQV)

46 Shaka, when the virus escaped.
Zulu or Kahn?

Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (v16oJ)

47 Yusen Zhou had information that could have lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (yQpMk)

48
I dunno, this isn't what twitter is telling me is fake-trending, today.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (prQ8Y)

49 Presuming that COVID was the accidental release of a gain of function virus that was being used to work on new vaccines explains a lot.

After all, the notion that you can role out a new, non-vaccine, vaccine do basically no animal or human testing and declare it good to go in a couple of months is absurd.
If you presume instead China and Fauci's people have been working on this for a while though...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (DpkTQ)

50 Shiva A and Shiva B vaccines

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (WU2VI)

51 i'm going to leave this post up for like 80 minutes to let you non-post-reading mouthbreathers time to read it

good stuff

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (0G13K)

52 I think that party of science shtick came from the mistaken belief that Christians don't believe in evolution, think the earth is only 5000 years old, and don't want sex ed in schools (i don't see how being against sex ed in schools is anti science, but whatever). That crap was all over lefty websites. Some left of center friends even started using that crap reasoning.

Posted by: Mishdog at June 07, 2021 01:14 PM (cqAUI)

53 Not for nothing but I've said all along that if they released this thing they would already have the vaccine for it.
Posted by: ...

Like to see the number of dead in the upper echelons of the PLA/CCP

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2021 01:14 PM (Xih1H)

54
The longer you leave the post on top, the more Star Trek we discuss.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (prQ8Y)

55 hiya JT

Posted by: ace

WHOA !

Posted by: JT at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (arJlL)

56 China had a traditional vaccine (no gene therapy) available last summer. That was suspiciously fast.

Posted by: Valiant at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (3MiF8)

57 New hotness: Donate the democratic party to purchase indulgences and be cleaned of sin.
Posted by: Flyguy

Where abortion is their ultimate, most holy, sacrament.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (Rvt88)

58 Some time during the George W. Bush presidency, Democrats began proudly calling themselves "the party of science."

This new science-based identity was congruous with the ascendance of a key demographic within the Democratic coalition, one that would be instrumental in electing and re-electing President Barack Obama.

But real science is hard, grueling, and fraught with dead ends and do overs as experiments fail.
Libs ain't got time for that shit.

Libs can't finish a one hour tv show because their attention span is only good for 30 minutes.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (OCTRt)

59 Remember, I believe the fact that ebola wasn't able to infect humans until they MADE it do so should've been a huge eye opener for everyone.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)

60 i'm going to leave this post up for like 80 minutes to let you non-post-reading mouthbreathers time to read it

good stuff
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (0G13K)

Arrghh. The pressure !!

Posted by: LASue at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (Ed8Zd)

61 Like to see the number of dead in the upper echelons of the PLA/CCP
How many western elites have died? Last time I looked there were only a very small set of names I recognized, all of them quite elderly.
Considering the claim that the virus has killed 600K here in the US alone that seems odd doesn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (DpkTQ)

62 The other irritation is the outright lies they parrot. Trump never said to inject bleach into your veins. He was talking about a new scientific method that they didn't bother to even research.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (5HBd1)

63 Like to see the number of dead in the upper echelons of the PLA/CCP
Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2021 01:14 PM (Xih1H)

Yes that's another thing. How abput our politicians and their families here? Anyone die besides non grata Herman Cain?

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (8dVNa)

64 As with most stuff like this, that essay, while not wrong, is 1,235% over-determined and redundant.

The slogan "This house believes in science" may be to flatter the self___ of the idiots mouthing it, but the important part is that it reveals what illiterates they are.

"Prosperous" and "educated" notwithstanding (and what actual value or meaning can we attribute to almost anyone who is considered "educated", especially if they're younger, and unless they specifically demonstrate they meet the real, older standard of that concept?).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (OTzUX)

65 Moldbug/Yavin is like Bernie Sanders. He can articulate the flaws in the system but his solutions are bat-shit crazy or evil or both.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (XvPQV)

66 This new science-based identity was congruous with the ascendance of a key demographic within the Democratic coalition, one that would be instrumental in electing and re-electing President Barack Obama.

Fools......bwwaaahahahahahahaha!

Posted by: Dominion Voting Machines at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (Zz0t1)

67
Really, though, is ben shapiro all "sick burn" burned out?

ben shapiro hasn't "destroyed" anyone on twitter for a very long time.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (prQ8Y)

68 i'm going to leave this post up for like 80 minutes to let you non-post-reading mouthbreathers time to read it

good stuff
Posted by: ace

He's on to us!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (d9FiS)

69 I think that party of science shtick came from the mistaken belief that Christians don't believe in evolution, think the earth is only 5000 years old, and don't want sex ed in schools (i don't see how being against sex ed in schools is anti science, but whatever). That crap was all over lefty websites. Some left of center friends even started using that crap reasoning.
Posted by: Mishdog

Pro-Life is anti-science somehow

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)

70 i'm going to leave this post up for like 80 minutes to let you non-post-reading mouthbreathers time to read it

good stuff
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (0G13K)

M.O.O.N. spells read.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (AiZBA)

71 62 The other irritation is the outright lies they parrot. Trump never said to inject bleach into your veins. He was talking about a new scientific method that they didn't bother to even research.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (5HBd1)

=========

"You're a dummy for thinking Trump didn't say it."
"Can you find the video?"
"I don't need to prove anything to you."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (LvTSG)

72 This new science-based identity was congruous with the ascendance of a
key demographic within the Democratic coalition, one that would be
instrumental in electing and re-electing President Barack Obama.
The self-flatterers?

Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 01:17 PM (v16oJ)

73
Moldberg! Moldberg! Moldberg! Moldberg!

Posted by: The earliest death chants of professional wrestling at June 07, 2021 01:17 PM (URN7W)

74 i think this is a different use of the term, tho

besides i already corrected once. If I correct my past error again, I'll Fauci myself.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:12 PM (0G13K)

My understanding is that the underlying idea is similar. The cathedral represents a top-down, hierarchal dissemination of ideas, with changes rigidly controlled and exclusive to a small group. The bazaar, in contrast, is decentralized, a free market where ideas are constantly tested and multiple ways of tackling a problem can be considered.

Scientism is that cathedral applied to areas outside of software development, but you still have ideology controlled by a small cadre of "experts."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:17 PM (jOcSX)

75 Ah just what every blog enthusiast enjoys. Homework.

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:18 PM (8dVNa)

76 That said, I'm ok with The Cathedral being destroyed with fire and sword.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:18 PM (XvPQV)

77 Pretty much from the point of calling its self the party of science, the left has become more and more bizarre and unreal in its claims and demands. More unscientific, to put it another way.

-Boys can be girls
-Men shouldn't be masculine.
-The world is being melted by cow farts and SUVs
-Covid came from evil bats in wet markets
-You must shut down the economy to stop a virus with a .4% death rate, primarily among the most weak and vulnerable.

etc And then they have the nads to claim people who disagree with this madness are anti science.

I met him, by the way. He knew of my work. (He said, boastfully.)

I'm gonna go out a limb and suggest taht the HQ is more or less world renown among many circles. Its not world famous, but its known by people who are well read, intelligent, and informed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:18 PM (KZzsI)

78 Well the job (Fortune 100 company) came up with latest return to work rules.
Vax is not required but we all have to attest to our status
Us unvaxxed proles must wear masks at all times except eating/drinking.
All the vaxxed must socially distance from unvaxxed.
They are making lepers out of us.I said I'll keep working remote...Boss said thats fineso all good *for now*

Posted by: McCool at June 07, 2021 01:18 PM (BqBIh)

79 Graveyards are littered with the victims of scientific certainty.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (C2hDV)

80 As has been said, the US is a vassal of the CCP, they managed to put their very own meat puppet in the White House.

There's pretty much nothing we can do to China.

Trump was trying to rectify the situation which is why he is no longer President.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (OZvoA)

81 My only question at this point is, are these revelations an indication that the narrative is collapsing, or do these truth bombs represent an effort on their part to control some aspect of this the rest of us can't quite see?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (YV6PJ)

82 77 I'm gonna go out a limb and suggest taht the HQ is more or less world renown among many circles. Its not world famous, but its known by people who are well read, intelligent, and informed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:18 PM (KZzsI)

========

Ace is world famous in Poland.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (LvTSG)

83 Really, though, is ben shapiro all "sick burn" burned out?

ben shapiro hasn't "destroyed" anyone on twitter for a very long time.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (prQ8Y)

He's failing upward.
Going Hollywood.

Ben Shapiro is really the anti-Brietbart.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (XvPQV)

84 Have the Indians (dot, not feather) calmed down yet? Seemed like they were warming up their nukes.
Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (Xih1H)

Lets flush the bombers and get the subs to their launch modes...we may have to go through this thing after all.
Whoa...do we have bombers and subs?

Posted by: General Shameer at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (axyOa)

85 Why have the Japanese never developed a vaccine for Godzilla?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (d9FiS)

86 It has been interesting to see real doctors try and get the word out about treatments that work and get silenced because the bureaucrats don't want you to use those treatments. They come from a background where you share what works.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (5HBd1)

87 I've never watched Ben Domenich before. He seems like a wordy gasbag.

Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (U1eOr)

88 I'm gonna go out a limb and suggest taht the HQ is more or less world renown among many circles. Its not world famous, but its known by people who are well read, intelligent, and informed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:18 PM (KZzsI)

========

Ace is world famous in Poland.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (LvTSG)

Also big in Japan

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (XvPQV)

89 And so now the near-complete misdirection of all science-related concerns about C19 is accomplished.

It's all soap opera and bad fiction thriller stuff about whether the virus was created, and leaked.

Meanwhile the actual center of gravity of the matter - was the response to the epidemic scientifically-based (narrator: nope) - remains, as it has since the start, relegated to the fringes.

"Masks are a pathetic sign of submissive compliance!". True, and the 2nd most important thing. That they have been known to be ineffective in reducing influenza-like illness transmission for DECADES, and this was confirmed by randomized controlled trials and universal observation DURING THIS ACTUAL EVENT - a side-issue, I guess.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2021 01:20 PM (OTzUX)

90 Since he filed on behalf of the Chinese government, his death wouldn't impede the patent application.

Was the patent granted?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 07, 2021 01:20 PM (K58O6)

91 i'm going to leave this post up for like 80 minutes to let you non-post-reading mouthbreathers time to read it

good stuff
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (0G13K)

Arrghh. The pressure !!
Posted by: LASue at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (Ed8Zd)
***

Is this going to be on the Final?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:20 PM (axyOa)

92 Trump would be staging joint military exercises with India right now

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2021 01:20 PM (Xih1H)

93 i'm going to leave this post up for like 80 minutes to let you non-post-reading mouthbreathers time to read it

I breath through my eyelids, like a lava lizard.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 07, 2021 01:20 PM (yQpMk)

94 Ace is world famous in Poland.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side

Does he have a pony ?

Posted by: JT at June 07, 2021 01:21 PM (arJlL)

95 I breath through my eyelids, like a lava lizard.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 07, 2021 01:20 PM (yQpMk)

How's your fastball?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:21 PM (XvPQV)

96
Domenech, striving to overcome her huge lead, is giving Meghan McCans a good run for the bulkiest member of the Commentariat Class.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2021 01:21 PM (pNxlR)

97 *Swaps posts 1 and 6*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:10 PM (XvPQV)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Dominion Voting Machines at June 07, 2021 01:21 PM (Zz0t1)

98 Pro-Life is anti-science somehow
Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)

Of course ! An independent heartbeat does not mean life. That's science (tm), you mouth breathing inbreds!

Posted by: LASue at June 07, 2021 01:21 PM (Ed8Zd)

99
What would be the purpose of filing a COVID-19 vaccine patent in China? I don't see the upside.

As noted, given the timing, it amounts to a confession. Did Disappeared Military Bioscience Guy just not see the forest for the trees? Thought he'd get rewarded for being clever?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 07, 2021 01:21 PM (sDuK/)

100 Pretty much from the point of calling its self the party of science, the left has become more and more bizarre and unreal in its claims and demands. More unscientific,

That is their schtick. The opposite of whatever they say they are. They also claim to be the party of democracy, anti-fascism and the Constitution.
The one thing that really surprises me is that they don't also claim to be the party for the unborn and gun enthusiasts.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 07, 2021 01:21 PM (C2hDV)

101 I'm gonna go out a limb and suggest taht the HQ is more or less world renown among many circles. Its not world famous, but its known by people who are well read, intelligent, and informed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:18 PM (KZzsI)

========

Ace is world famous in Poland.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (LvTSG)

Also big in Japan
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (XvPQV)
***

He's known in Puyallup.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:22 PM (axyOa)

102 i'm going to leave this post up for like 80 minutes to let you non-post-reading mouthbreathers time to read it

good stuff
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:13 PM (0G13K)

Wait.....is there going to be a quiz?

**Starts furiously taking notes**

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 07, 2021 01:22 PM (dfRN6)

103 "The Cathedral," as Michael Malice named it* -- the loose but vicious
conspiracy of prosperous upper-class liberals and the "expert" cult they
worship, as well as the permanent bureaucratic government (and have no
doubt, every bureaucrat thinks of himself as an expert) -- has the real
power.

The American people can never be free so long as these turds continue to occupy their positions of influence in our society.

Posted by: Methos at June 07, 2021 01:22 PM (kOpft)

104 Lets flush the bombers and get the subs to their launch modes...we may have to go through this thing after all.
Whoa...do we have bombers and subs?
Posted by: General Shameer

They do ...

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2021 01:22 PM (Xih1H)

105 The pandemic felt like the largest PsyOp ever run. And it's still going....

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 07, 2021 01:22 PM (URN7W)

106 Why have the Japanese never developed a vaccine for Godzilla?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Because every time someone hollered "Godzilla!" the entire Japanese population ran around screaming "AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!" and waving their arms over their heads.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 01:22 PM (Rvt88)

107
I'm gonna go out a limb and suggest that the HQ is more or less world renown among many circles. Its not world famous, but its known by people who are well read, intelligent, and informed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer

... and us, too!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2021 01:22 PM (pNxlR)

108 54
The longer you leave the post on top, the more Star Trek we discuss.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 07, 2021 01:15 PM (prQ8Y)

bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (vuisn)

109 >>all of these disasters brought to you by the total, self-assured unanimity of the highly educated people who are supposed to know what they're doing, plus the total complacency of the highly educated people who are supposed to be supervising them.

That's what should happen -- but the Left/WEF and Tech oligarchs have decided CLIMATE EMERGENCY will be the vehicle through which their Great Reset-New Normal will be brought to fruition.

That can't happen if we are allowed to finally take a clear look at where blind faith in politicized science and scientists has led us.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (bDqIh)

110 The houses who believe in Science know that a mask will stop a highly contagious virus and that illegal aliens can't pass that same highly contagious virus out of the drive-through windows at McDonalds.*

* It's neat how food service handling protocols reinforce the notion that it's mainly fecal-oral, isn't it?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (XSoJN)

111 Zhou died in mysterious circumstances in May 2020 - less than three months after filing the patent

We no see you Zhou!

Posted by: CCP at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (yrol0)

112 He's known in Puyallup.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:22 PM (axyOa)

Yes, but does he "do" the Puyallup?

Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (U1eOr)

113 >>>87 I've never watched Ben Domenich before. He seems like a wordy gasbag.

I think he's surprisingly based when you consider who he is. He was born a political insider, born into the virginia political establishment, and married Meghan McCain, for crying out loud

Given that, I think he's super-based, compared to what he could have been.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (0G13K)

114 You patent too much; you die now.

Posted by: Archer at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (gmo/4)

115 Really, though, is ben shapiro all "sick burn" burned out?

ben shapiro hasn't "destroyed" anyone on twitter for a very long time.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 07, 2021 01:16 PM (prQ8Y)

I know it doesn't mean anything, but I find it quite hysterical that Crowder, since he's been sick, coughs and spits the phlegm into a "Liberal Tears" tumbler.

Posted by: Dominion Voting Machines at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)

116 All this talk of unrepresentative, technocratic subjugation of the country is just ridiculous! And twitter will ban you for saying it, and JP Morgan Chase bank will not fund any campaigns promoting the idea!

Posted by: Dominion (uber alles) at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (gjvx9)

117 Here is research gates' listing of the scientist's papers tinyurl.com/j5dzy9ef

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (DpkTQ)

118 Damn sock....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)

119 I keep going back to that video interview of Dr. Pierre Kory by Dr. John Campbell. Dr Kory spoke to congress about Wuflu and was basically called a liar by the Dems.

He goes through this logical discussion of what he observed and says it has to be a conspiracy.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (5HBd1)

120 I feel so left out. According to those articles, as an engineer, trained in science, I am supposed to hate Trump and be a liberal. I must have missed the memo...

Posted by: Mookie at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (u+Y3T)

121 I take exception to this idea that the cult of science was a reaction to Trump. Total BS.

The article before that explained well that under Bush these assholes were on their way to fetishizing science in the most unhealthy possible way.

The lie that George Bush (SBUH) against "stem cell research", when it was fetal stem cells from abortions that was always at issue with the religious set, was pervasive and grotesque. But it was convenient and that's all a Democrat ever needs.

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (8dVNa)

122 Dems: Of course this wild claim is based on science! We are the party of science!

Google: Of course our software isn't violating your privacy for our profit and to bring about your subjugation to an oppressive regime! Our motto is "Don't be evil!"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (C2hDV)

123 Ace is world famous in Poland.

He's huge in Belgium

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (KZzsI)

124 This patent application thing is a nothing burger until and unless the published application adds a LOT more damning information. (It hasn't been published yet; I checked.)

The entire world now is "first-to-file" (the US used to be "first-to-invent," which was changed by the "America Invents Act), and so there is a strong incentive to file a patent application at the first serious glimmering of an idea. Waiting until you work out the details is a recipe for losing priority to someone else.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (YqDXo)

125 I'm like Hansel

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (0G13K)

126 AoS is the number one blog in Peruvia

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (DpkTQ)

127 Zhou? Oh you no see him no more.
- Pao Zing ClemenZao

Posted by: Archer at June 07, 2021 01:25 PM (gmo/4)

128 Chinese "vaccine". Yep. 20 minutes later, you're infected again.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 07, 2021 01:25 PM (QzJWU)

129 "Their relationship is likely to strengthen speculation that the virus leaked from the lab and that China was aware that it was spreading between humans long before they alerted the international community."

The press still uses words which lead to a conclusion and it's become comical. Then they wonder why they have no credibility with such a large swath of the public.
Baseless claims.
Without evidence.

Here, it is the word speculation. No, it is more evidence. Speculation is WAGing, not data points all pointing to a conclusion nobody wants to speak of.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 07, 2021 01:25 PM (z79tQ)

130 Zhou did not get the China is assho memo.

Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 01:25 PM (KnJdm)

131 Next you'll be telling me that a bunch of Lefty Billionaires and their butt-boys in government made a ton of money shorting the market, and then invested in mega corporations as small businesses were slaughtered nationwide and internationally ...

Posted by: ShainS at June 07, 2021 01:25 PM (pPbje)

132 Why have the Japanese never developed a vaccine for Godzilla?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

You asked for it......

https://youtu.be/muUZjovOFRg

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)

133 is there a cliff notes of the post?

Posted by: x4 at June 07, 2021 01:26 PM (oA+QO)

134 123 Ace is world famous in Poland.

He's huge in Belgium
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (KZzsI)

He's even bigger in Liechtenstein.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 07, 2021 01:26 PM (vuisn)

135 When they say "trust the science," what they mean is, "We have the ability to subjugate an entire country full of free people down to a science."

Hence, "trust the science."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2021 01:26 PM (KbCG3)

136 can you still get a regular flu shot today ?

Posted by: chango lot at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (g741k)

137 I take exception to this idea that the cult of science was a reaction to Trump. Total BS.

The article before that explained well that under Bush these assholes were on their way to fetishizing science in the most unhealthy possible way.

The lie that George Bush (SBUH) against "stem cell research", when it was fetal stem cells from abortions that was always at issue with the religious set, was pervasive and grotesque. But it was convenient and that's all a Democrat ever needs.
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (8dVNa)

It's been building for the past century. Remember that early progressivism was based on the idea that the industrial and scientific revolutions could enable a bureaucracy run by technocratic "experts" to efficiently run society.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (jOcSX)

138 But is Ace big in Japan? https://bit.ly/3zbiFi4

Posted by: Mookie at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (u+Y3T)

139 I'm like Hansel
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (0G13K)

Oh, an ambi-turner. La ti da...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (XvPQV)

140 120 I feel so left out. According to those articles, as an engineer, trained in science, I am supposed to hate Trump and be a liberal. I must have missed the memo...
Posted by: Mookie at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (u+Y3T)

Same here. When I visited relatives in Florida they later admitted they expected to have to bite their tongues around "an academic from California." They were relieved to learn that I'm slightly to the right of Genghis Khan. Genghis meant well, but IMO, was a bit of a pansy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (YqDXo)

141 Yes, but does he "do" the Puyallup?
Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (U1eOr)

I think Ace doing the Puyallup would cause a wrinkle in the space-time continuum.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (axyOa)

142 Lots of adults mysteriously dying from SIDS

Suddenly inconvenient death syndrome

Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (icI8A)

143 Next you'll be telling me that a bunch of Lefty Billionaires and their butt-boys in government made a ton of money shorting the market, and then invested in mega corporations as small businesses were slaughtered nationwide and internationally

Surely not, that would be unethical!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (KZzsI)

144 "The Democratic Party has become the party not of science, but of fealty to the clerics of science. "I believe in science" has come to mean, "I do not question expert authority," which is as antithetical to the scientific spirit as you can get. The more gravely the line is intoned, the more Orwellian it becomes."

THIS is a great point.
I've tried to put it this well many times, but here it is.
I should memorize it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 07, 2021 01:28 PM (z79tQ)

145 I read that President Trump put his pants on backwards and pinched his wiener.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 07, 2021 01:28 PM (7Tokq)

146 Lots of adults mysteriously dying from SIDS
Anyone else just out for a late night walk and then BAM the worst headache you've every had?

Posted by: Seth Rich at June 07, 2021 01:28 PM (DpkTQ)

147 (doesn't click, hopes it's the Tom Waits song)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:28 PM (XSoJN)

148 Suddenly inconvenient death syndrome

"we find it tremendously convenient"
--Collossus

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:28 PM (KZzsI)

149 Zhou got the Billy Batts treatment.

Posted by: JT at June 07, 2021 01:28 PM (arJlL)

150 Technocratic progressivism is a century old.

Heave my Unified Clinton Field Theory into the sun. The true Unified Field Theory for the state of politics is that this is all the fault of Woodrow Wilson and the proponents of progressive technocrat rule. All Clinton did was refine that a wee bit with the Eternal Campaign.

Also, to pick at the nits, this all well predates W. Rockefeller Republicans were a thing when I was a wee-er alex.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 07, 2021 01:29 PM (GbPPJ)

151 Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (0G13K)

Good to know. I just kept thinking that he's intoning and pausing etc... to get the perfect "effect". It seemed like he really enjoyed hearing his voice. Whereas if you imagine Rush saying the same thing it would be totally different. Instead of the apparent focus on impeccable timing and deep, clean tone of voice, Rush would have actually made the point stick. Rush made it real.

I guess I didn't care for his delivery - seemed designed to make us impressed with him rather than his point.

Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 01:29 PM (U1eOr)

152 He's even bigger in Liechtenstein.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 07, 2021 01:26 PM (v

Don't forget about us!

Posted by: Andorra at June 07, 2021 01:29 PM (A860g)

153 Old article (March 2020) on COVID origins. Interesting read. Hope this cuts and pastes properly! (remove space)
Have a nice day all!

https://capitalisteric.wordpress.com/2020/03/08/ coronavirus-blunt-truth/

Posted by: Just Dave at June 07, 2021 01:29 PM (2c25S)

154 I think Ace doing the Puyallup would cause a wrinkle in the space-time continuum.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (axyOa)

Regular colonoscopies can detect puyallups before they can be a cause for concern.

Posted by: Archer at June 07, 2021 01:29 PM (gmo/4)

155 That Guardian article puts too much faith in lefties. They don't give a shit if they're found to be objectively wrong. They never have and they never will.

They're still claiming that Trump was a Russian asset, and they still attack anyone who doubts that.

They do not give a single shit.

Proof that the WooHoo was generated in a Chinese lab won't change a single lefty in the least.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 07, 2021 01:29 PM (sWM8x)

156 If it does indeed turn out that the lab-leak hypothesis is the right explanation. . .there is a moral earthquake on the way.

That, right there, is comedy gold. No, there won't be any "moral earthquake." Shall I tell you why? Because those of us who knew from the start that this shit was man-made, that it was a ChiCom bioweapon and that the Deep State used it as the bluntest of hammers to remove Trump and break the US economy already know everything was a lie and despise every 'expert' paraded by the MFM.

Those on the left will not change their viewpoint, because, to them, thousands of deaths were worth it to remove the Nazi Trump, to imprison his cult and to humble a too-arrogant, not-self-abnegating-enough USA. The "science," to them, will have been misguided, NEVER "wrong."

And the assholes in the mushy middle? They will strap on their kneepads and swallow whatever the current Democrat / MFM lie of the day is, never giving the stink-eye to the politicians or scientists and keeping their Masks of Cain at the ready.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (2JVJo)

157 It's been building for the past century. Remember that early progressivism was based on the idea that the industrial and scientific revolutions could enable a bureaucracy run by technocratic "experts" to efficiently run society.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (jOcSX)

Marx's "scientific socialism," as opposed to its forerunner, "utopian socialism."

Read Edward Bellamy's "Looking Backward 2000-1887" (Project Gutenburg, IIRC) for an insight into the mindset. It's laughable now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (YqDXo)

158 If ace is becoming a Moldbug adherent then we're about to reach levels of based not thought humanly possible.

Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (icI8A)

159 only question at this point is, are these revelations an indication that the narrative is collapsing, or do these truth bombs represent an effort on their part to control some aspect of this the rest of us can't quite see?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2021 01:19 PM (YV6PJ)

The extreme late date of the revelations is all you need to know.

We are just NOW having "serious" conversations that should have been had 18 months ago. A year of this will be another year where we DON'T discuss things like what it all means. What penalties China should pay. What similar research is going on. How was the US involved. What safety protocols are in place to prevent the next disaster. Whether certain research should be funded or banned.

So yeah nothing is falling apart. It's an irrelevant useless conversation that will no doubt take the air out of everything else until the next "thing" comes along.

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (8dVNa)

160 I'm slightly to the right of Genghis Khan. Genghis meant well, but IMO, was a bit of a pansy.
Yeah, total soy boy.

Posted by: Tamerlane at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (v16oJ)

161 Honestly, the biggest problem is that the Left thinks history is the last ten years. Got into an argument on Twitter about Reagan causing the homeless crisis. (I asked him how he caused the homeless crisis in WA and OR). Anyway, I was actually living in CA when he was governor. Yet some clown thinks his version of the events is gospel. Won't answer me when I asked if he was alive and living in CA then.

When you tell them that there was no bribery to get people to take the polio vaccine, no fact checking when people talked about it, they pretend like that never happened.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (5HBd1)

162 can you still get a regular flu shot today ?
Posted by: chango lot at June 07, 2021 01:27 PM (g741k)

Flu has been eradicated.
Try to keep up.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (axyOa)

163 (doesn't click, hopes it's the Tom Waits song)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:28 PM (XSoJN)

Oops......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

164 "38 The fact that the world hasn't voted to overthrow the Chinese government shows just exactly how corrupt the world is and how fucked the little people are.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:12 PM (Zz0t1)"

In many ways, China is almost as troubled as the United States and similar in its flirtations with failed statehood. What makes the PRC so dangerous, though, is China has thousands of years of experience with bribery, and Western political and corporate leaders are avaricious and very easily bribed. Our problem isn't China. Our problem is D.C. and corporate whores.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (puu6v)

165 "I believe in science" has come to mean, "I do not question authority"

Pretty much it in a nutshell. The expert part is even optional; just authority. But they select the authorities, they trust the left implicitly and unthinkingly, no matter the level of expertise. George freaking Clooney is enough for them to swear by something.

Conversely, no matter the credentials, expertise, experience, and even proven factual support, no expert that is not woke enough can be trusted or even listened to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (KZzsI)

166 They do not give a single shit.

They're constipated !

Posted by: JT at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (arJlL)

167 I take exception to this idea that the cult of science was a reaction to Trump. Total BS.

The article before that explained well that under Bush these assholes were on their way to fetishizing science in the most unhealthy possible way.

The lie that George Bush (SBUH) against "stem cell research", when it was fetal stem cells from abortions that was always at issue with the religious set, was pervasive and grotesque. But it was convenient and that's all a Democrat ever needs.
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (8dVNa)

Just a slight shift from mocking Reagan's strategic defense initiative as a "Star Wars" fantasy.

Posted by: LASue at June 07, 2021 01:31 PM (Ed8Zd)

168 The "Party of Science" schtick grew out of the Dem's Global Warming push, and Gore's 2000 loss to GWB. Increasingly, any dissent / differing opinions as to Climate Change! were forbidden as anti-science.

They couldn't win the debate, so they shut up the opposition and then claimed if you didn't follow the "consensus" view you were a "science denier". And it only metastasized further from there.

A crisis of faith in Science! will doom their climate change society reorganization efforts.

Posted by: Revenant at June 07, 2021 01:31 PM (I76dP)

169 The lie that George Bush (SBUH) against "stem cell research", when it was fetal stem cells from abortions that was always at issue with the religious set, was pervasive and grotesque. But it was convenient and that's all a Democrat ever needs.
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (8dVNa)

Don't worry. George P. Bush will fix everything.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)

170 Do they even have the "do the Puyallup" ads anymore? That was like 25 years ago.

Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 01:31 PM (U1eOr)

171 The catastrophic, indefensible science-free response to the virus is the main story - and it even *continues*, even now.

The implications of this for the country are terrifying.

Only inertia (cost, hassle, lack of panic) limits the destructive potential of "climate" nonsense. And those limits, like all other bad things, seem to be expanding. See the unbelievable effort to destroy Exxon by turning it into a fake-energy grifting operation.

And Eisenhower's warning about a federal scientific-industrial complex (far, far more important, and in the event consequential, warning than his famous one about the military-industrial complex), and the free-fall into lysienkoism in much of science (any that touches on public policy directly), are the actual crisis.

Well, along with a dumbed-down scientifically illiterate miseducated "prosperous" demo of NPR-listeners, who are the brownshirt street troops for this idiocy.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2021 01:31 PM (OTzUX)

172 They do not give a single shit.

They're constipated !
Posted by: JT at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (arJlL)

CRANKY-pated......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:32 PM (Zz0t1)

173 125 I'm like Hansel

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (0G13K)

-------

I wonder if anybody has done a Hoggsel and Greta parody?

Posted by: ShainS at June 07, 2021 01:32 PM (pPbje)

174 The operative part of the blurb for "Looking Backward:"

"Julian West, a feckless aristocrat living in fin-de-siècle Boston, plunges into a deep hypnotic sleep in 1887 and wakes up in the year 2000. America has been turned into a rigorously centralized democratic society in which everything is controlled by a humane and efficient state. In little more than a hundred years the horrors of nineteenth-century capitalism have been all but forgotten. "

You get the picture.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:32 PM (YqDXo)

175 As Christianity has retreated from Western life, what filled the vacuum wasn't reason, but a resurgent paganism and gnosticism.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:32 PM (jOcSX)

176 I'm slightly to the right of Genghis Khan. Genghis meant well, but IMO, was a bit of a pansy.
Yeah, total soy boy.
Posted by: Tamerlane at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (v16oJ)

But if I could sow even a tenth of the wild oats he did...

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:32 PM (axyOa)

177 Marx's "scientific socialism," as opposed to its forerunner, "utopian socialism."

Read Edward Bellamy's "Looking Backward 2000-1887" (Project Gutenburg, IIRC) for an insight into the mindset. It's laughable now.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (YqDXo)

In Soviet Current Year, control group is you!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 01:32 PM (6FeV1)

178 There should be a moral earthquake

There won't be - the cognitive dissonance won't allow for it

Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:32 PM (icI8A)

179 I've been saying watch out for the Zhous.

Posted by: Calypso Louie at June 07, 2021 01:33 PM (8dVNa)

180 there are still fully jabbed people wearing masks in 90 degree weather out here

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:33 PM (DJFLF)

181 "The Democratic Party has become the party not of science, but of fealty to the clerics of science. "I believe in science" has come to mean, "I do not question expert authority," which is as antithetical to the scientific spirit as you can get. The more gravely the line is intoned, the more Orwellian it becomes."

THIS is a great point.
I've tried to put it this well many times, but here it is.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 07, 2021 01:28 PM (z79tQ)

I concur.

Posted by: LASue at June 07, 2021 01:33 PM (Ed8Zd)

182 I wonder if anybody has done a Hoggsel and Greta parody?
Posted by: ShainS

Downfall parody. Hitler finds out Greta and Hogg are seeing each other.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 01:33 PM (OCTRt)

183 The true Unified Field Theory for the state of politics is that this is all the fault of Woodrow Wilson and the proponents of progressive technocrat rule

Its all part of a late 19th/early 20th century movement of philosophy, brought to use by people like Marx, Darwin, Nietzsche, Dewey, Freud, etc. An attempt to create a system of belief that eliminates not just Christianity, not just God, but entire concept of anything supernatural.

Wave after wave of horrific movements that plunged the world into incredible evil and misery came from that and still are being launched. All from the same bastard origins.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:33 PM (KZzsI)

184 but a resurgent paganism and gnosticism.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:32 PM (jOcSX)

that would actually be preferable to the nihilistic sociopathic clusterfukk that is now occurring

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:34 PM (DJFLF)

185 As Christianity has retreated from Western life, what filled the vacuum wasn't reason, but a resurgent paganism and gnosticism.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

Party time! Excellent!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 07, 2021 01:34 PM (d9FiS)

186 >>>Domenech, striving to overcome her huge lead, is giving Meghan McCans a good run for the bulkiest member of the Commentariat Class.

I don't want to be mean but when I saw him on TV last week I thought, "He looks just like William Conrad now."

Oh well, there's a lot of covid weight gain.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:34 PM (0G13K)

187 Obey!

Posted by: Archer at June 07, 2021 01:34 PM (gmo/4)

188 if it does indeed turn out that the lab-leak hypothesis is the right explanation. . .there is a moral earthquake on the way.

**

Yep. The left doesn't care about hypocrisy. They want you to die.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:34 PM (XSoJN)

189 The true Unified Field Theory for the state of politics is that this is
all the fault of Woodrow Wilson and the proponents of progressive
technocrat rule.
Well, as long as we're going to first principles, I'll nominate that idiot Rousseau and his minions, Marat, Danton and Robespierre.

Posted by: Tamerlane at June 07, 2021 01:34 PM (v16oJ)

190 I vaguely recall the "Party of Science" stuff first arising in the context of stem cell research using aborted fetus tissue and/or IVF embryos. Might be wrong. But GWB was willing to fund stem cell research but not on the maximalist level Dems wanted, so he was "against science."

Seems most of that stem cell research has been a dry hole. But I bet if you went back to look at you find it was pretty similar to The Lab Leak suppression effort a bunch of conflicted researchers spinning tales to a compliant "science" press supported by NIH bureaucrats with a grudge against a GOP pol.

Posted by: Match Checksout at June 07, 2021 01:34 PM (dYe5S)

191 Yes, the people who grew up scorning religion as a crutch for the stupid have managed to make a religion that has lamer saints, rites, rituals, and liturgy than any other codified religion on the planet.

Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:34 PM (icI8A)

192 Our problem isn't China. Our problem is D.C. and corporate whores.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (puu6v)
As it has ever been.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 07, 2021 01:35 PM (CcOog)

193
I feel so left out. According to those articles, as an engineer, trained in science, I am supposed to hate Trump and be a liberal. I must have missed the memo...
Posted by: Mookie at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM (u+Y3T)

Same here. When I visited relatives in Florida they later admitted they expected to have to bite their tongues around "an academic from California." They were relieved to learn that I'm slightly to the right of Genghis Khan. Genghis meant well, but IMO, was a bit of a pansy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I went out to California as someone on the right and, despite nearly five years soaking in the fetid ambiance of Berkeley, I left there more convinced than ever that leftists were polysyllabic-spouting imbeciles.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2021 01:35 PM (pNxlR)

194 Do they even have the "do the Puyallup" ads anymore? That was like 25 years ago.
Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 01:31 PM (U1eOr)

They do...but not last year.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:35 PM (axyOa)

195 180 there are still fully jabbed people wearing masks in 90 degree weather out here
Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:33 PM (DJFLF)

only mentioned it to illustrate the Fauci/Birx/Madcow cultists afoot and at large

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:35 PM (DJFLF)

196 That old article talks about asymptomatic spread. it doesn't work that way and 14 days is really as long as you need to quarantine. (The bad effects typically happen on day 10)

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 01:35 PM (5HBd1)

197
I wonder if anybody has done a Hoggsel and Greta parody?

Posted by: ShainS

If anyone did, it's got to be pron.

Posted by: Archer at June 07, 2021 01:35 PM (gmo/4)

198 Genghis Khan couldn't even take out Lincoln in a fight. What a wuss!

Posted by: Mookie at June 07, 2021 01:35 PM (u+Y3T)

199 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 07, 2021 01:30 PM (2JVJo)

Preach it. Even when it is confirmed that the Deep State deliberately released the virus and its propaganda organs instilled terror, there will be precious little done. I would not want to be associated in any way with the State with the economic bill comes due--which is happening now--but mere biological warfare against the citizenry will be met with fierce rhetoric and breathless solicitations from the Republican Party.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2021 01:35 PM (puu6v)

200 Ace is world famous in Poland.

He's huge in Belgium
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:24 PM

But not in The Netherlands. Those guys are tall.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (m+jkK)

201 there are still fully jabbed people wearing masks in 90 degree weather out here
Posted by: kallisto

Amazing, isn't it? I have to imagine they don't trust the shot then right? LOL

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (Rvt88)

202 One of the benefits of being a conservative opposed to the COVID-19 vaccine is that it also makes one immune to the charge of idolizing President Trump. One can say, "Yes, he was duped into recklessly pushing an experimental vaccine with serious side-effects for a sickness which is 99% non-lethal and can already be effectively treated with ivermectin or hydrochloroquine."

Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (od35w)

203 >>>175 As Christianity has retreated from Western life, what filled the vacuum wasn't reason, but a resurgent paganism and gnosticism.

yup. I did not believe this would happen but it has.

I am now convinced that people will seek out one religion or another. Post-Christians do not become rationalists, they just become neopagans.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (0G13K)

204 there are still fully jabbed people wearing masks in 90 degree weather out here
Posted by: kallisto

You can't fix stupid.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (d9FiS)

205 Whoops. Missed part of the quote attempt:

Moral earthquake -> The left doesn't care.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (XSoJN)

206 "The Democratic Party has become the party not of science, but of fealty to the clerics of science. "I believe in science" has come to mean, "I do not question expert authority," which is as antithetical to the scientific spirit as you can get. The more gravely the line is intoned, the more Orwellian it becomes."

THIS is a great point.
I've tried to put it this well many times, but here it is.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 07, 2021 01:28 PM (z79tQ)

I concur.
Posted by: LASue at June 07, 2021 01:33 PM (Ed8Zd)

Already plagiarized the crap outta it.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (axyOa)

207 >>But not in The Netherlands. Those guys are tall.
yeah i think they're the tallest people in the world.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (0G13K)

208 DEATH PLAN AD!!!

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (0T+zz)

209 Just a slight shift from mocking Reagan's strategic defense initiative as a "Star Wars" fantasy.

I saw a comedian in Spokane Washington at a comedy club (he later was a modest success, was in some movies) who was mocking Reagan constantly. He particularly was vicious toward the stealth bombers. "Invisible bombers" he sneered, how stupid. Only a crazy old man could imagine such a thing!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

210 One of the benefits of being a conservative opposed
to the COVID-19 vaccine is that it also makes one immune to the charge
of idolizing President Trump. One can say, "Yes, he was duped into
recklessly pushing an experimental vaccine with serious side-effects for
a sickness which is 99% non-lethal and can already be effectively
treated with ivermectin or hydrochloroquine."

Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (od35w)

This.

Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (KnJdm)

211 I wonder if anybody has done a Hoggsel and Greta parody?

Posted by: ShainS

If anyone did, it's got to be pron.

Posted by: Archer at June 07, 2021 01:35 PM

Rule 34.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (m+jkK)

212 The "party of science" stuff in the 90s/early aughts was about abortion. They needed a cause that would justify abortion in the face of growing opposition and settled on fetal stem cells as some sort of miracle cure for all the world's ailments.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (jOcSX)

213 the more you guys say death plan the more death plan ads we're gonna get

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (0G13K)

214 Modern shitlibs recreated a Dionysian mystery cult except forgot to include the debauched sexual rituals. What a bunch of fruits.

Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (icI8A)

215 Today, in the age of biological and ecological emergency, the Democrats' scientific brand has taken center stage again, reflected in an assertion that has become something of a mantra: "I believe in science."

Science, being one of many words whose definition escapes their grasp.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (EjmvJ)

216 Beretta APX 9mm Luger 3.7in Black Pistol - 15+1 Rounds; $350; https://bit.ly/3zjNSQq

Posted by: bonhomme at June 07, 2021 01:38 PM (YYlyE)

217 DEF PLANES

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:38 PM (XSoJN)

218 >>But not in The Netherlands. Those guys are tall.
yeah i think they're the tallest people in the world.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM

Just ask them!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 07, 2021 01:38 PM (m+jkK)

219 Heh.

Someone, I believe a PJmedia writer said (and I can't find the damned link right now) something along the lines of "There's nothing left to do at this point but decide where to be when the inevitable US-Sino war touches off..."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 07, 2021 01:38 PM (ZSK0i)

220 Science, being one of many words whose definition escapes their grasp.

Or in the vernacular, "you keep using that word...".

Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 01:38 PM (v16oJ)

221 Beretta APX 9mm Luger 3.7in Black Pistol - 15+1 Rounds; $350; https://bit.ly/3zjNSQq
Posted by: bonhomme at June 07, 2021 01:38 PM (YYlyE)

Hell of a good deal if you want a compact carry gun instead of duty-sized

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:38 PM (XvPQV)

222 I am now convinced that people will seek out one religion or another. Post-Christians do not become rationalists, they just become neopagans.

Everybody is religious. Some are just more open and honest about it. Its a question of which religion, not if. And the left has spent over a century working on the perfet Godless religion without a Bible.

And in the process has given us the world's greatest horrors.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:39 PM (KZzsI)

223 Christianity, when stripped of all the frippery and pageantry that eventually encrusts all religions, is crushingly rational.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 01:39 PM (6FeV1)

224 Yes, but does he "do" the Puyallup?
Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (U1eOr)

Can you still do it at a trot or do it at a gallop?

https://tinyurl.com/935vxa8c

Posted by: LASue at June 07, 2021 01:39 PM (Ed8Zd)

225 Modern shitlibs recreated a Dionysian mystery cult except forgot to include the debauched sexual rituals. What a bunch of fruits.
Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (icI8A)

They save those parties for the Bohemian Grove meetings.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:40 PM (XvPQV)

226 yup. I did not believe this would happen but it has.

I am now convinced that people will seek out one religion or another. Post-Christians do not become rationalists, they just become neopagans.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (0G13K)

I mentioned to gushka that it really struck me during one of the BLM riots, when some chick got naked and struck a pose in front of the cops: this is all a religious ritual to them. It's no different than a devout Catholic going to mass. The structure is similar, and the purposes of these rituals are often the same as church services; they are a means of reinforcing social cohesiveness, identity with the in-group, as well as a means of purging one's sins and receiving absolution. It's religious theater which relies heavily on symbolism and ritual. Jung would have a field day analyzing the archetypes of these movements.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:40 PM (jOcSX)

227 Modern shitlibs recreated a Dionysian mystery cult except forgot to include the debauched sexual rituals. What a bunch of fruits.
Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (icI8A)

He says one week into a month consecrated to buttfuckery and genital mutilation...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 01:40 PM (6FeV1)

228 @199

Even if there was a desire to do something to China there is no practical way to materially hurt a country when your own military relies on that country for electronics and component nor when the 70-80 percent of the products the Walmart's and amazons of the world sell are manufactured in that country.

We were sold out to the CCP 40 years ago getting out from under their thumb will be virtually impossible given the current political climate and reality.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2021 01:41 PM (OZvoA)

229 What strikes me is how desperate they are to believe.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 07, 2021 01:41 PM (45fpk)

230 When stripped of the ecumenism and formal structures, Christianity is the world's most positive and beneficial systems of philosophy and worldview. To the extent it matches its culture, that's when Christianity goes horrifically wrong. When its salt and light and leads the culture by the Bible, that's when it is at its best.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:41 PM (KZzsI)

231 Of all the books they could choose as the bases for a neopagan religion, they picked lame shit like White Fragility and How To Be An Anti-racist

Why not something much cooler, like Dune, or a Warhammer 40k novel?

Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:41 PM (icI8A)

232 Honestly, the biggest problem is that the Left thinks history is the last ten years. Got into an argument on Twitter about Reagan causing the homeless crisis. (I asked him how he caused the homeless crisis in WA and OR). Anyway, I was actually living in CA when he was governor. Yet some clown thinks his version of the events is gospel. Won't answer me when I asked if he was alive and living in CA then.

That one drives me wild. The vagrancy (aka "homelessness") problem resulted in no small measure from the Supreme Court's decision in O'Connor v. Donaldson (1975), which followed on the heels of leftist legislation of similar ilk in several states (incl. CA, natch; proposed by Tom Lantos and two others whose names escape me), spurred by Ken Kesey's "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." The result was to make involuntary institutionalization much more difficult, which in turn led to the release into the wild of a lot of mental patients - now known as "the homeless."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:41 PM (YqDXo)

233 In short, Reagan had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (YqDXo)

234 What strikes me is how desperate they are to believe.

In the end we all are, though. Its just some are more honest and innocent about it, and some pretend otherwise.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (KZzsI)

235 Pagans are pretty chill though, they just like to dance around trees in the moonlight and such. they're not forcing your caucasian children to confess their guilt about being all privilegey or risk social shunning and termination

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (DJFLF)

236 Warai - Yeah, gays were well known for their chastity before Pride Month became a thing =p

I'd say I want orgies with their women, but....I've seen the pictures, and even I have standards, low as they may be.

Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (icI8A)

237 Maybe the only people not surprised by all of this, is us.

Posted by: kraken at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (6Je/Q)

238 yup. I did not believe this would happen but it has.

I am now convinced that people will seek out one religion or another. Post-Christians do not become rationalists, they just become neopagans.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (0G13K)
--

The (Catholic) Church used to understand that every generation is born pagan and had to be converted to Christianity. Not so much, anymore.

Posted by: Revenant at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (I76dP)

239 "Post-Christians do not become rationalists, they just become neopagans."

Well, the ones with the intellectual limitations, educational deficiencies, and/or authoritarian impulses do.

Just as many of the top real scientists are religious, or humble agnostics (having a real appreciation for the wonders of nature), there are non-religious types who do not need to fill any "void" when it comes to a "civic religion".

It's the masses of miseducated prosperous types, who *do* need something like religion, that are the main problem. I know many of this type. They're not scientifically literate or serious, but they cling fanatically to their micron-deep understanding of "science", and technocratic elitism.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2021 01:43 PM (OTzUX)

240 How about repeating Bewbs Plan Ad?
Boobs. Plan.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 07, 2021 01:43 PM (0T+zz)

241 Amazing, isn't it? I have to imagine they don't trust the shot then right? LOL
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (Rvt8

I guess not. We can't even visit our elder family members now for risk of being named and shamed for giving them the 'ro, if they get it. Even though they're fully vaxxed, my unc and aunt were like the very first people in my county to get jabbed.

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:44 PM (DJFLF)

242 But it's not fealty to experts. That's the pretense.

The Left doesn't believe experts. They use experts to say shit they agree with and then beat you to death with it.

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:44 PM (8dVNa)

243 Pagans are pretty chill though, they just like to dance around trees in the moonlight and such. they're not forcing your caucasian children to confess their guilt about being all privilegey or risk social shunning and termination

Yeah. Witches (Wiccans) get a bad rap because people think of them either as Halloween figures or freaky feminists. The real ones I've known are just happy to get naked, dance around in the forest, make weird teas and talk about rituals and crystals. They cast "spells" and are into astrology and all that new age crap. but they are friendly and harmless.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:45 PM (KZzsI)

244 Yes, but does he "do" the Puyallup?

Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 01:23 PM (U1eOr)

Can you still do it at a trot or do it at a gallop?

https://tinyurl.com/935vxa8c

Posted by: LASue at June 07, 2021 01:39 PM (Ed8Zd)

You can do it real fast until your hear just palpitates. Just don't be late.

Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 01:45 PM (KnJdm)

245 I think we should go with "scislam" and "sciencehadi"

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 01:45 PM (oxpXX)

246 One of the benefits of being a conservative opposed
to the COVID-19 vaccine is that it also makes one immune to the charge
of idolizing President Trump. One can say, "Yes, he was duped into
recklessly pushing an experimental vaccine with serious side-effects for
a sickness which is 99% non-lethal and can already be effectively
treated with ivermectin or hydrochloroquine."

Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (od35w)

It's entirely reasonable to think that the vaccine is a testament to the knowledge and capabilities of the US free market, and the ability of government to harness that potential and provide the resources and organization to achieve a national goal. At the same time, such advances rarely come without costs, and it's rational for a lot of people who aren't high risk to decide that a new and relatively untested vaccine is too much of a risk compared to the possibility of contracting COVID and decline the shot. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:45 PM (jOcSX)

247 Wasn't it Limbaugh who said " people who don't believe in anything, will believe anything"???

Posted by: kraken at June 07, 2021 01:45 PM (6Je/Q)

248 Someone, I believe a PJmedia writer said (and I can't find the damned link right now)

I am self-enderpened. It was Paula Bolyard's article quoted in J.J.'s Morning Report.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 07, 2021 01:45 PM (ZSK0i)

249 But it's not fealty to experts. That's the pretense.

The Left doesn't believe experts. They use experts to say shit they agree with and then beat you to death with it.
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:44 P

That's the leadership. The average lefty believes. Fervently.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 07, 2021 01:45 PM (m+jkK)

250
The Left doesn't believe experts. They use experts to say shit they agree with and then beat you to death with it.
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:44 PM (8dVNa)

The only 'experts' the left agree with are the ones they've bought and paid for.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:45 PM (Zz0t1)

251 and settled on fetal stem cells as some sort of miracle cure for all the world's ailments.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:37 PM (jOcSX)

meanwhile adult stem cells and cord blood cells proved to be more effective for therapeutic applications. They need the aborted fetuses to concoct their grotesque chimera experiments

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:46 PM (DJFLF)

252 The result was to make involuntary institutionalization much more difficult, which in turn led to the release into the wild of a lot of mental patients - now known as "the homeless."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

And the reason they are homeless is because they want to be. They don't want to follow society's rules.

And that's NOT my problem.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 01:46 PM (OCTRt)

253 Pagans are pretty chill though, they just like to dance around trees in the moonlight and such. they're not forcing your caucasian children to confess their guilt about being all privilegey or risk social shunning and termination
Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (DJFLF)

We know different Pagans. The ones I know are huge maskers and vote Socialist.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:46 PM (XvPQV)

254 In short, Reagan had nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

**

Yep. It's the same way the left insists the parties switched sides.

JFK had passed a law forcing insane people to live in their communities and LBJ forbade medicare/medicaid dollars from going to mental health facilities with more than 15 or 16 beds years before Reagan became governor. (both with D congresses, btw)

But Reagan's fault.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:46 PM (XSoJN)

255 I am now convinced that people will seek out one religion or another. Post-Christians do not become rationalists, they just become neopagans.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:36 PM (0G13K)

*hauls out internet neurobiology degree*

The vast majority of people, though not all, appear to have some kind of innate need to believe in something super natural. The space there is purposeful. Be it religion, or paganism, or Science, or whatever, as best as we can tell given the current nothing we comprehend about the human brain, there appears to be some drive to believe in something outside not only ourself but our ability to reason.

This is a bit of a piece with how there appears to be some kind of very strange urge for hereditary rule in governments. It exists across all recorded history, across all cultures, and across all types of systems of governance.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 07, 2021 01:46 PM (GbPPJ)

256 If he filed a patent for a property produced in a Chinese state run laboratory, then that doctor was clearly willing to risk his life in order to expose what was happening there.

Posted by: NeverBiden at June 07, 2021 01:47 PM (0jZvB)

257 For decades, people like me have been accused of wanting to 'turn this country into a theocracy'. And now it is.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 07, 2021 01:47 PM (45fpk)

258 In my personal experience, the people who put the most faith in "science" and the "experts" were usually the least scientifically knowledgeable. So, I was willing to chalk it up to a gap in education. But it's not that, it's some sort of weird cult thing.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 07, 2021 01:47 PM (UuD2k)

259 We know different Pagans. The ones I know are huge maskers and vote Socialist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:46 PM (XvPQV)

The ones i know are barflies who sell meth and are really really into denim...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 01:47 PM (6FeV1)

260 If I was a Neo-Pagan I'd at least pick and choose a pantheon of awesome Gods and Goddesses.

Like a divine version of Super Smash Brothers.

Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (icI8A)

261 I am not so sure that the Left is all that betrothed to science for any reason other than it is something they can weaponize against anyone they oppose. For example, they don't like anything about nuclear physics which is about as sciency as you can get.

I think Jonah Goldberg might refer to science as just a McGuffin.

Posted by: blaster at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (m/zKn)

262 and settled on fetal stem cells as some sort of miracle cure for all the world's ailments.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

They try to claim it is from one aborted fetus from the 70's.

That is one big assed fetus if you are still pulling stem cells off of it 50 years later.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (OCTRt)

263 Wasn't it Limbaugh who said " people who don't believe in anything, will believe anything"???

Jesus put it this way:

"When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. Then he says, I will return to my house from which I came.' And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first."
Matthew 12:43-45

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (KZzsI)

264 I went out to California as someone on the right and, despite nearly five years soaking in the fetid ambiance of Berkeley, I left there more convinced than ever that leftists were polysyllabic-spouting imbeciles.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2021 01:35 PM (pNxlR)

I really wish we'd met there. Hell, maybe we did! I was in LCB, and IIRC, you were in Hildebrand Hall.

I showed up in Berkeley as a right-on squishy leftist. Three months after arrival, I'd reversed polarity politically, on seeing the result of leftist politics.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (YqDXo)

265 Modern shitlibs recreated a Dionysian mystery cult except forgot to
include the debauched sexual rituals. What a bunch of fruits.
We're ready to go!

Posted by: Convention of furries at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (kOpft)

266 I'm (still) floored at just how fundamentally un-informed people are, about everything. It's unreal, because we live at a time when information, primary sources, has never been more easily available at ones fingertips.

I was talking to a couple older gentlemen, neither/nobody in the store were wearing dustmasks. One guy asked the other, "Have you had your shots?" And he said "Yes, and then I drank five beers". He thinks the whole thing is Bullshit, and has no intention of taking any Wuhan vaccine.

That's all very well and good, as far as that goes, but Inwas struck by the fact nobody seems to have any clue what "natural immunity" is, or why pregnant women don't ever get prescribed vaccines generally speaking.

Antibodies, T cells, none of this shit is too hard to look up, and when Bioweapons are unleashed it might behoove one to get informed, as well as can done admittedly in such a bewildering environment. This "que sera sera" atitude is not limited to health issues, it infects everybody and everything. Really fucking strange.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (dyShS)

267 We know different Pagans. The ones I know are huge maskers and vote Socialist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get r

funny when you see the carvings of the mexicans ripping out hearts for sacrifice, nobody ever notes that the priest and the sacrificed guy are both wearing masks.

though they are made out of human hides.

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (oxpXX)

268 The Pagan I know was a decent hitter for a few seasons.

Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (icI8A)

269 Pagans are pretty chill though, they just like to dance around trees in the moonlight and such. they're not forcing your caucasian children to confess their guilt about being all privilegey or risk social shunning and termination
Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (DJFLF)

We know different Pagans. The ones I know are huge maskers and vote Socialist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:46 PM (XvPQV)

And ferrets. Don't forget their weird love/obsession with ferrets.

Posted by: Wally at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (FJYfm)

270 One of the benefits of being a conservative opposed
to the COVID-19 vaccine is that it also makes one immune to the charge
of idolizing President Trump.

I think it's a misconception that only conservatives are anti-covid jab. I know a young woman who actually got approved for citizenship in Canada because she was certain Trump would be re-elected. (Far from a Trump supporter as can be). Well now that Bidet appropriated the White HOuse, she can stay Stateside. But she is not getting the jab because she works at a medical facility and according to her research on the vaccine, she doesn't believe it will accomplish what they claim it will do.

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (DJFLF)

271 I really appreciated that some moron pointed out that the word "pride" was chosen because it was viewed as the opposite of "shame."

That was a great observation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (XSoJN)

272 The (Catholic) Church used to understand that every generation is born pagan and had to be converted to Christianity. Not so much, anymore.
Posted by: Revenant at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (I76dP)

Just yesterday I heard a homily on that-- since the fall the default is that everyone born is under the dominion of satan and must find our to salvation by baptism and following the Word. I always figured it was the opposite (all born into righteousness but lose our way quickly), but it was an interesting point.

Posted by: LASue at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (Ed8Zd)

273 253 Pagans are pretty chill though, they just like to dance around trees in the moonlight and such. they're not forcing your caucasian children to confess their guilt about being all privilegey or risk social shunning and termination
Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (DJFLF)

We know different Pagans. The ones I know are huge maskers and vote Socialist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:46 PM (XvPQV)

=========

"I hate Christianity," seems to be their guiding principles, oftentimes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (LvTSG)

274 I posted it earlier but the Virus has a manmade sequence that was invented just for gain of function.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (yrol0)

275 The name "Ace" has been openly whispered in Bellevue, Washington restaurants. Fact.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (hKi6n)

276 If I was a Neo-Pagan I'd at least pick and choose a pantheon of awesome Gods and Goddesses.

So like an All-Star team with Thor and Hercules and Dionysus and Ukko and so on?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:50 PM (KZzsI)

277 268 The Pagan I know was a decent hitter for a few seasons.

The Pagans we know were a pretty debased and savage biker gang

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:50 PM (DJFLF)

278 If he filed a patent for a property produced in a Chinese state run laboratory, then that doctor was clearly willing to risk his life in order to expose what was happening there.
Posted by: N

no

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 01:50 PM (oxpXX)

279 and settled on fetal stem cells as some sort of miracle cure for all the world's ailments.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

California established its own little NIH to do fetal stem cell research, wherein the anointed gave each other grant money from the taxpayers. How this could possibly have worked out well is a mystery.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:50 PM (YqDXo)

280 The vast majority of people, though not all, appear to have some kind of
innate need to believe in something super natural. The space there is
purposeful. Be it religion, or paganism, or Science, or whatever, as
best as we can tell given the current nothing we comprehend about the
human brain, there appears to be some drive to believe in something
outside not only ourself but our ability to reason.

My pet theory is that it's a reflection of our terror at the immensity and randomness of the universe, and just how insignificant we are. We want a measure of control so as to allow ourselves to sleep at night. Religion is one way of doing it.

Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 01:50 PM (v16oJ)

281 >>>245 I think we should go with "scislam" and "sciencehadi"

hah, scislam

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:50 PM (0G13K)

282 I'm kinda hoping that the piece about the Scripps virologist yesterday was just the start.

He tweeted Fauci about Covid showing signs it was man-made, and the (after a substantial grant was awarded) completely changed his mind, and was cited by Fauci.

He's now deleted his twitter account. I hope the same thing happens to everyone who took the money to lie.

Posted by: artemis at June 07, 2021 01:50 PM (AwPyG)

283 The trouble with the Clerisy article is that it says "follow the science" turned into its opposite. No. It was never about skepticism; it was always about leading the sheep.

We see this elsewhere too. As in the notion that journalism has morphed into something other than it was. Read older writers on journalism. They saw the same BS we do. Another case is the Left having supposedly abandoned its belief, in the 60s, in free speech. Sorry, they never believed in that. (Hell, that's when Marcuse came up with "repressive tolerance.)

Don't buy their revisionism. They were always like this.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 07, 2021 01:51 PM (7X3UV)

284 265 Modern shitlibs recreated a Dionysian mystery cult except forgot to include the debauched sexual rituals.
Posted by: Convention of furries at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (kOpft)

I'm not sure they forgot.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 07, 2021 01:51 PM (hKi6n)

285 Pagans are pretty chill though, they just like to dance around trees in the moonlight and such. they're not forcing your caucasian children to confess their guilt about being all privilegey or risk social shunning and termination
Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (DJFLF)

I got kicked out of a Pagan orgy because I was pro-Christian once. (I wasn't practicing, I just thought Christianity was true).

Not all Pagans(tm) are assholes, but in WA they sure skew left/prog.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:51 PM (XvPQV)

286 And ferrets. Don't forget their weird love/obsession with ferrets.
Posted by: Wally at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM

"Borderline vermin-type creature."

- Ozzy Man

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 07, 2021 01:51 PM (m+jkK)

287 Experts who disagree with the Left aren't even allowed to exist.

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:51 PM (8dVNa)

288 Sir Winston Churchill loved science. But, he was wary how a political party, or movement, could utilize science to limit human freedom.

He said statesmen must be vigilant to see that human freedom was preserved over science.

Seems right for our times.

Posted by: jeff at June 07, 2021 01:51 PM (Rviza)

289 I haven't kept up with it, but last I checked a few years back there had been no successful treatments developed from fetal stem cells. Is that still the case?

Distributed Horde knowledge knows all.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 07, 2021 01:51 PM (GbPPJ)

290 I should note that when I say "paganism," I'm not referring to any one specific belief-set, but a more general idea about the relationship of man to the surrounding world. It seems like very often they were externally focused, viewing the world as awash in gods and animal spirits to be placated by the appropriate sacrifices and rituals. Gnosticism, in contrast, is the internally focused religions, often involving secret knowledge and a view of the world as dirty, fallen, and evil.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (jOcSX)

291 Ace,

McCarthy already came out today saying that "unless and until China comes forward with convincing evidence that the lab-leak theory is wrong, the position of the United States and the world must be that China is culpable."

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (DwEUu)

292 "Scientology" was already taken....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (6FeV1)

293 Have the Indians (dot, not feather) calmed down yet? Seemed like they were warming up their nukes.
Posted by: Jean

Add all the nations that used the China created vaccines to the pissed off Indian sub-continent and the CCP might actually be in living in 'interesting times'.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (VMck4)

294 The name "Ace" has been openly whispered in Bellevue, Washington restaurants. Fact.
Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (hKi6n)

Can confirm

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (XvPQV)

295 There's a big difference between Pagans, who are religious about their belief and big on mysticism... and "pagans" who are just Christian hating hard left neo-punks who have no official religious affections other than an upside down cross or a star tattoo.

Like all the dumbass smiths on Forged in Fire wearing a hammer of thor, as if they're a viking who sacrifices goats to Thor on weekends.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (KZzsI)

296 That is one big assed fetus if you are still pulling stem cells off of it 50 years later.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (OCTRt)

I have to try and mine Cesare Sacchetti's timeline for the tweet he posted that had an image of one of the jab ingredient list actually naming fetus cells as a component. I'd better do so quickly though because he gets suspended on the reg

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (DJFLF)

297 Science requires that you don't ask questions or review data, you ignorant Trumptards.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (XSoJN)

298 In my personal experience, the people who put the most faith in "science" and the "experts" were usually the least scientifically knowledgeable.
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Same here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (YqDXo)

299 McCarthy already came out today saying that "unless and until China
comes forward with convincing evidence that the lab-leak theory is
wrong, the position of the United States and the world must be that
China is culpable."
Great. Now what are you going to do about it?

Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 01:53 PM (v16oJ)

300 The (Catholic) Church used to understand that every generation is born pagan and had to be converted to Christianity. Not so much, anymore.
Posted by: Revenant at June 07, 2021 01:42 PM (I76dP)

Pace Ann Barnhardt, the vast majority of RCC clergy not only don't believe in Christianity, they are actively embarrassed by it.

They are the GOP in birettas and mitres.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 07, 2021 01:53 PM (2JVJo)

301 >>>McCarthy already came out today saying that "unless and until China comes forward with convincing evidence that the lab-leak theory is wrong, the position of the United States and the world must be that China is culpable."

well, okay. Like everyone else at National Review, he spreads lies for a year, then declares the new truth months after everyone else knows it. Then they pat themselves on the back for being forward thinking.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:53 PM (0G13K)

302 and "pagans" who are just Christian hating hard left neo-punks who have no official religious affections other than an upside down cross or a star tattoo.

Yeah they're not pagans in the traditional sense, they're just nihilistic sociopathic control freaks culturally appropriating some nature worshippers' jawn of olde

Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2021 01:53 PM (DJFLF)

303 McCarthy already came out today saying that "unless and until China
comes forward with convincing evidence that the lab-leak theory is
wrong, the position of the United States and the world must be that
China is culpable
**

Maybe the SCOTUS can send them a letter telling them to cut it out.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:53 PM (XSoJN)

304 ace, DeSantis' garbage is flashing its ankles at you:

https://tinyurl.com/njhm3ndv

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 07, 2021 01:54 PM (GbPPJ)

305 It's that people literally can't think. It's amazing when you think about it. You ask them why, since it's such a deadly virus, are people that test positive sent home to treat it with over the counter remedies, until they need to be hospitalized? That sounds like a cold or the flu. Can you see government responding to the Black Plague that way? Yet that's exactly what happened here.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 01:54 PM (5HBd1)

306 Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:53 PM (0G13K)

Correct - it's just confirmation that the winds have, indeed, shifted.

Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 01:54 PM (U1eOr)

307 I'm gonna go out a limb and suggest that the HQ is more or less world renown among many circles.

I came here originally via a recommendation in Non-Post-Reading Mouthbreathers Quarterly.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2021 01:54 PM (EjmvJ)

308 Nothing screams love of Science!!! more than supporting the methodical murder of human potential....

Posted by: kraken at June 07, 2021 01:54 PM (6Je/Q)

309 The Pagan I know was a decent hitter for a few seasons.
Posted by: Broseidon at June 07, 2021 01:48 PM (icI8A)

Angel

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 01:54 PM (8dVNa)

310 Science requires that you don't ask questions or review data, you ignorant Trumptards.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (XSoJN)

And we sure as shit DON'T FUCKING AUDIT!!!

...

Schumer Shabbos!!!!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 01:54 PM (6FeV1)

311 pep, while your observation may well apply to religion in general, there is no doubt that this fear, the desperation for control and reassurance, is what drives the pathetic response to the science-free disastrous response to the virus.

A prevalent highly infectious virus with a very narrow burden of mortality is not affected in the least by lockdowns, "social distancing", masks, "deep cleaning", or any of the idiotic Placebo Kabuki. Nor are the always very dubious fall-back rationalizations of not exceeding medical capacity ("flatten the curve") valid, even IF "mitigation" worked - which it doesn't.

So many layers of false premises here, it's bewildering. But all powered by fear and desperate, illiterate desire for control, or sense of control.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2021 01:55 PM (OTzUX)

312 The name "Ace" has been openly whispered in Bellevue, Washington restaurants. Fact.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (hKi6n)

And not just about recreational footwear and fashion accessories.

Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 01:55 PM (KnJdm)

313 The Pagans we know were a pretty debased and savage biker gang

They were a really savage bunch of monsters.

I haven't kept up with it, but last I checked a few years back there had been no successful treatments developed from fetal stem cells. Is that still the case?

The only confirmed one I remember was in the naughties, a treatment for glaucoma. However, there was nothing about the treatment that normal stem cells treated to behave as foetal stem cells couldn't have accomplished.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:55 PM (KZzsI)

314 All these facts, beating the conservative intelligentsia, punditry, social media stars, et al, and no one, not one, offering that this was all one big staged worldwide coup of a sitting president. That's just absurd, the exhort. Tinfoil hat shit right? We need to walk carefully. Wait until all the facts are in. F-ck it.

Posted by: Cringe Biscuit at June 07, 2021 01:55 PM (Lozsj)

315 The name "Ace" has been openly whispered in Bellevue, Washington restaurants. Fact.
Posted by: Mr. Barky

Can confirm
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Pffffft. The name "Ace" is legend in Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 01:55 PM (OCTRt)

316 Jay - I had a similar epiphany, it took a little longer for me because I'm slow, but it stuck. Liberals , the "true believers" are without fail always utterly full of shit, and I discovered this through direct observation and experience. I was out West, and soon realized Loggers were good folks, and "Environmentalists" most definitely not. I had been sold a bill of goods.

Maybe if we as a society hadn't killed off the timber industry in this country a sheet of plywood wouldn't cost 90 bucks. Oh well. You can bet there are many more such "surprises" in store shortly.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 07, 2021 01:55 PM (dyShS)

317 >>>The entire world now is "first-to-file" (the US used to be "first-to-invent," which was changed by the "America Invents Act),
osted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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The Leahy-Smith America Invents Act (AIA) is a United States federal statute that was passed by Congress and was signed into law by President Barack Obama on September 16, 2011.
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That wasn't a hard guess was it?

Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2021 01:56 PM (kMTsG)

318
The modern scientific research industry is like a cross between a giant perpetual motion machine and a game of musical chairs. Scientific research is underwritten, in large part, by a steady stream of government funding. To keep the lights on in their labs, scientists need to tap into that stream. They do so by designing research projects that conform to whatever the government prioritizes at any particular moment.... The successful scientist is the one who is particularly adept at writing fundable grant applications pegged to some politically salient research objective, and then generating laboratory results that make some sort of incremental progress toward that objective to justify a renewal of that grant funding in the next cycle.

All of the lauded and vaunted scientific peer review system is stovepiped - that is to say, labs and scientists working in a particular area review works done by other labs and scientists in the same area.

There are not radically dissenting voices to anything in that field allowed to have a say in the merits of the work in that field. Stovepiped peer review is a huge part of the research grant awarding process, too.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2021 01:56 PM (pNxlR)

319 The vast majority of people, though not all, appear to have some kind of innate need to believe in something super natural. The space there is purposeful. Be it religion, or paganism, or Science, or whatever, as best as we can tell given the current nothing we comprehend about the human brain, there appears to be some drive to believe in something outside not only ourself but our ability to reason.

I go with a mixture of human brains wired for pattern recognition (which is a supreme survival trait) combined with a pre-loading of empty symbols (Jung's archetypes) which leads humans to look at the world and try to associate what they see externally with what they already have in their brains, and project that forward into the future. The result is a world hidden meanings and larger narratives and gods and devils and supernatural beings in an attempt to meld it all together into something understandable (and if you can understand it, you can survive it).

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:56 PM (jOcSX)

320 "I believe in science" has come to mean, "I do not question expert authority," which is as antithetical to the scientific spirit as you can get. The more gravely the line is intoned, the more Orwellian it becomes.

if ace posts it you know it has to be fact.

Posted by: blaster at June 07, 2021 01:57 PM (m/zKn)

321 @314

There's a rule of thumb in trial work, that you let the jury connect the dots for themselves. It sticks better.

Posted by: artemis at June 07, 2021 01:57 PM (AwPyG)

322 Chinaman is breaking Sundowner's law blaming it on China
Lock him up!

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2021 01:57 PM (Cxk7w)

323 well, okay. Like everyone else at National Review, he spreads lies for a year, then declares the new truth months after everyone else knows it. Then they pat themselves on the back for being forward thinking.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:53 PM (0G13K)

To be fair, which I hate being, Jim Geraghty has been all over the lab leak theory since March, 2020.

NR has a webathon going on right now and thus everyone is jumping all over the work that Geraghty did on this, hoping that everyone will forget that Kevin Williamson is still there.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 07, 2021 01:57 PM (GbPPJ)

324 That's because the loggers actually worked in the woods every day and lived in wooded areas. While the environmentalists just wanted it all turned into a park for them and their friends to visit.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 01:57 PM (5HBd1)

325 312 The name "Ace" has been openly whispered in Bellevue, Washington restaurants. Fact.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (hKi6n)

And not just about recreational footwear and fashion accessories.
Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 01:55 PM (KnJdm)

"It's not just a bandage anymore!"

Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 07, 2021 01:58 PM (hKi6n)

326 If he filed a patent for a property produced in a Chinese state run laboratory, then that doctor was clearly willing to risk his life in order to expose what was happening there.
Posted by: N

Nope. As a condition of his employment he doubtless had an obligation to assign his patent rights to Wuhan and/or the Chinese government. In short, he wouldn't own any patent that resulted from his application.

Instead, the assignee owns it all, lock, stock, and barrel, and controls prosecution of the application. All the assignee would have to do is withdraw the application before it was published (18 months after filing) and no one would ever know about it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 01:58 PM (YqDXo)

327 This entire COVID thing stinks worse than David French's wife's well-worn crotch.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2021 01:58 PM (VpIIl)

328 who needs those fucking contrarians

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 01:58 PM (oxpXX)

329 >>To be fair, which I hate being, Jim Geraghty has been all over the lab leak theory since March, 2020.

Meh. Mask hysteric.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2021 01:58 PM (0G13K)

330 The only confirmed one I remember was in the naughties, a treatment for glaucoma. However, there was nothing about the treatment that normal stem cells treated to behave as foetal stem cells couldn't have accomplished.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 01:55 PM (KZzsI)

Thank you!

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 07, 2021 01:58 PM (GbPPJ)

331 "The Cathedral," as Michael Malice named it* -- the loose but vicious conspiracy of prosperous upper-class liberals and the "expert" cult they worship, as well as the permanent bureaucratic government (and have no doubt, every bureaucrat thinks of himself as an expert) -- has the real power.

==
Aah. Now I understand. I figured he was referring to something like that.

Posted by: runner at June 07, 2021 01:59 PM (V13WU)

332
https://tinyurl.com/njhm3ndv
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 07, 2021 01:54 PM (GbPPJ)

This man is fucking stupid:

Jason @jtmiller769
·14h
Replying to @GovRonDeSantis @pepsi and 2 others
Cases from unvaccinated attendees will go up from this event and you hold the responsibility

This has literally NOT happened after ANY large gathering since Covid.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:59 PM (Zz0t1)

333 Moldbug suggested driving tanks into Yale or Harvard. He's not part of the cathedral.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 07, 2021 02:00 PM (po9ly)

334 "The Cathedral," as Michael Malice named it* -- the loose but vicious conspiracy of prosperous upper-class liberals and the "expert" cult they worship, as well as the permanent bureaucratic government (and have no doubt, every bureaucrat thinks of himself as an expert) -- has the real power."

But remember, if you call it the Deep State, then you're just a crazy conspiracy theorist.

Posted by: Wally at June 07, 2021 02:00 PM (FJYfm)

335 Mulder: I want to believe.

Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2021 02:00 PM (RHGPo)

336 So dumb. One case at Sturgis. No cases at the Mt Rushmore 4th of July last year. No cases at any of the BLM riots. It's such BS.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 02:00 PM (5HBd1)

337 All of the lauded and vaunted scientific peer review system is stovepiped - that is to say, labs and scientists working in a particular area review works done by other labs and scientists in the same area.

There are not radically dissenting voices to anything in that field allowed to have a say in the merits of the work in that field. Stovepiped peer review is a huge part of the research grant awarding process, too.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2021 01:56 PM (pNxlR)

This.

And a guaranteed way to torpedo your funding chances - and therefore your career - would be to flout the prevailing narrative. Who's going to review your grant application? The guys you just dunked on, that's who.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 02:00 PM (YqDXo)

338 332 Jason @jtmiller769
14h
Replying to @GovRonDeSantis @pepsi and 2 others
Cases from unvaccinated attendees will go up from this event and you hold the responsibility

This has literally NOT happened after ANY large gathering since Covid.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:59 PM (Zz0t1)

==========

This reminds me of the people who calculate the end of the world from the Bible, and then the world doesn't end.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 02:00 PM (LvTSG)

339 324 That's because the loggers actually worked in the woods every day and lived in wooded areas. While the environmentalists just wanted it all turned into a park for them and their friends to visit.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 01:57 PM (5HBd1)

An old one:

What's the difference between an environmentalist and a developer?

An environmentalist already has his cabin in the woods.

Golf clap, please.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (hKi6n)

340 in fairness being a logger has to be a shitty job.

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (oxpXX)

341 And yes, it has been my experience that the lest scientifically trained are the most "I f'ing love Science" obnoxious. I think they want the assurance of scientific study without the trouble of learning it, so they rely on an "expert" who says what they fear or want to be true as a proxy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (KZzsI)

342 ==========

This reminds me of the people who calculate the end of the world from the Bible, and then the world doesn't end.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 02:00 PM (LvTSG)

Tell me about it.....

Posted by: The Mayan Calendar at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

343 The result is a world hidden meanings and larger narratives and gods and
devils and supernatural beings in an attempt to meld it all together
into something understandable (and if you can understand it, you can
survive it).
Agreed. My daughter once asked my why I, a scientist, go to church. I told her that even simple experiments are devilishly hard to make work properly. The concept that the complexity of the universe just self-assembled just doesn't compute for me. I suppose I'm more of an ID kind of guy, but the truth is that Christianity is a way for me to acknowledge my smallness and yet have hope that there is some meaning to it all.

Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (v16oJ)

344 I'm not even sure if Covid coming from a lab or not is really important, the US and the world's reaction to it was so f'ktarded that I don't think we could handle a crisis similar to WWI or WWII very well.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 07, 2021 02:02 PM (Y5qcH)

345 Reports that the DIA withheld some of this information from the FBI and CIA (and potentially DoJ) because they have Chinese moles and assets in their ranks, are probably some of the most disturbing. Think about all the events since Trump was elected those agencies were involved with, and how they turned out. Then add Chinese involvement. It's like a Tom Clancy novel, only with more duck sauce.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2021 02:02 PM (VpIIl)

346 "McCarthy comes out TODAY saying..."

What was he saying, one year ago today? I assume it was something along the lines of, "I am sorry for being so late on recognizing FBI corruption and DOJ incompetence, but I promise, going forward, I will be a thought leader and not a guy running 12 to 18 months behind internet randos in my analysis."

Posted by: Match Checksout at June 07, 2021 02:02 PM (dYe5S)

347 Jason @jtmiller769
14h
Replying to @GovRonDeSantis @pepsi and 2 others
Cases from unvaccinated attendees will go up from this event and you hold the responsibility

This has literally NOT happened after ANY large gathering since Covid.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 01:59 PM (Zz0t1)

Everybody knows that stealing HDTVs from Best Buy protects attendees of certain public events from the virus.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 02:02 PM (YqDXo)

348 in fairness being a logger has to be a shitty job.
Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (oxpXX)

Cage cleaner at an Elephant Park.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)

349 @299

They've already done what they intend to do about it, they lifted the Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

And besides, as I said, there's not much you can do to China being as they have the US and thenWest by the short ones.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2021 02:02 PM (OZvoA)

350 This reminds me of the people who calculate the end of the world from the Bible, and then the world doesn't end.

Its very similar: You keep predicting and eventually you will be right, no matter how long it takes.

in fairness being a logger has to be a shitty job.

Pays really well though. And boy do you get to see some amazing scenery.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (KZzsI)

351 supermaskers are bitter clingers. they can't accept that their tyranny is over.

Posted by: runner at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (V13WU)

352 My Christianity gives me assurance.

Posted by: kraken at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (6Je/Q)

353 343 Agreed. My daughter once asked my why I, a scientist, go to church. I told her that even simple experiments are devilishly hard to make work properly. The concept that the complexity of the universe just self-assembled just doesn't compute for me. I suppose I'm more of an ID kind of guy, but the truth is that Christianity is a way for me to acknowledge my smallness and yet have hope that there is some meaning to it all.
Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (v16oJ)

=========

"If you can answer this one question, I will stop going to church: Who was the first mover?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (LvTSG)

354 What's weird is that the guy who wrote the article in the Leftist Guardian has it nailed down as good as any 'ron on this site.
Despite the dig at Trump, he gets it.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (HrMC1)

355 Everybody knows that stealing HDTVs from Best Buy protects attendees of certain public events from the virus.
Posted by: D

what was in your wheaties this morning,

you're en fuego today

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (oxpXX)

356 Logging is one of the most dangerous jobs out there. I personally know one guy that lost a leg and another that was paralyzed from the waist down, while logging.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (5HBd1)

357 I'm still waiting for a journalist to ask Fauci what was the last year he looked through a microscope or held a test tube.

It's an honest question considering that the average general physician that you go to will still give you dietary information from five decades ago. Our family physician is a good guy but he will still stand there with my excellent lab results from my yearly physical in his hand and give me s*** about my low carb diet.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 07, 2021 02:04 PM (A31uo)

358 I go with a mixture of human brains wired for pattern recognition (which is a supreme survival trait) combined with a pre-loading of empty symbols (Jung's archetypes) which leads humans to look at the world and try to associate what they see externally with what they already have in their brains, and project that forward into the future. The result is a world hidden meanings and larger narratives and gods and devils and supernatural beings in an attempt to meld it all together into something understandable (and if you can understand it, you can survive it).
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 01:56 PM (jOcSX)

Yup. I don't want to give too much credit to evolutionary psychology and biology because, seriously, we don't know how the human brain works even the least little bit, but there's *something* there.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 07, 2021 02:04 PM (GbPPJ)

359 =========

"If you can answer this one question, I will stop going to church: Who was the first mover?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (LvTSG)

Allied Van Lines.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

360 From our own Muldoon years ago (Part 1)

Consider for a few moments the heart of a human baby. It is a few ounces of muscle, fat and connective tissue that has a rhythmic, self-sustaining electrical system. It consists of two separate but remarkably similar pumps, the right and left sides of the heart. It is fully formed by the 8th week of gestation, and continues to beat rhythmically, steadily and continuously for up to 100 years, without any outside help in the vast majority of instances. The stunning symmetry of the microscopic arrangement of myosin and actin protein fibers creates a highly efficient pumping machine. The delicate and yet durable valves regulate the direction of blood flow through the veins and arteries. Consider the simple mechanical elegance of this one single organ.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 02:04 PM (Rvt88)

361 I'm not even sure if Covid coming from a lab or not is really important, the US and the world's reaction to it was so f'ktarded that I don't think we could handle a crisis similar to WWI or WWII very well.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 07, 2021 02:02 PM (Y5qcH)

From a scientific standpoint (and assuming the leak was accidental), I don't think it matters. But what is very important about the whole thing is the "Shut up, peasant!" reaction of people in power and their servants/masters in Big Tech.
And of course, the coverup, particularly by this Daszak guy, who really should be in prison right now.

Posted by: Wally at June 07, 2021 02:04 PM (FJYfm)

362 My daughter once asked my why I, a scientist, go to church.

Some of the most religious people I know of are doctors and scientists. They say that the more they learn, the more they know there must be a supreme creator God.

Doctors in particular are more inclined to believe in miracles than others, having seen them repeatedly in their work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 02:04 PM (KZzsI)

363 359 Allied Van Lines.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

========

Well, looks like I don't believe in God anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (LvTSG)

364 > This reminds me of the people who calculate the end of the world from the Bible, and then the world doesn't end.

The Jehova's Witnesses calculated several dates that have come and gone. I believe their current claim is that Jesus came in private, you just aren't cool enough to know about it, dude.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (YYlyE)

365 Tariffs lifted? Which ones? I missed that, and doubt it happened (yet!).

And they (the idiots in power) just sanctioned/banned a few more Chineeee companies from certain contracts.

A friend who is a true expert and follows this stuff thinks that they will hollow out much of Trump's trade death-grip on Chy-nah via exemptions and expirations of temporary measures. All of which will receive minimal "coverage", natch.

But I hadn't seen that the surrender had commenced already.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (OTzUX)

366 in fairness being a logger has to be a shitty job.
Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (oxpXX)

Cage cleaner at an Elephant Park.
Posted by: Sponge

Suppository applier/vet tech at Elephant Park.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (OCTRt)

367 what was in your wheaties this morning,

you're en fuego today
Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (oxpXX)
-----------------

Extra strong coffee!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (YqDXo)

368 @344

You may have it backwards. I think the "crisis" was the excuse for the powers that be to behave exactly as they did.

Posted by: artemis at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (AwPyG)

369 Reports that the DIA withheld some of this
information from the FBI and CIA (and potentially DoJ) because they have
Chinese moles and assets in their ranks, are probably some of the most
disturbing. Think about all the events since Trump was elected those
agencies were involved with, and how they turned out. Then add Chinese
involvement. It's like a Tom Clancy novel, only with more duck sauce.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2021 02:02 PM (VpIIl)

With OPM diversity hire Archuleta giving the keys to the server room to the Chinese, it should have been presumed that most are compromised.

Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (KnJdm)

370 Part 2 -

And then ask yourself one question...
Is there any conceivable way that this was the result of a slimy puddle of primordial goo randomly organizing with this heart as the accidental (natural selection) result?
What has always bothered me is that any precursor organs would fail and, unless the present organ was conceived as a whole, the organ would fail.
There is no dual use or even just a lump of flesh until the final build.

And yet the evolutionists say I believe in fairy tales.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (Rvt88)

371 The name "Ace" has been openly whispered in Bellevue, Washington restaurants. Fact.
Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 07, 2021 01:49 PM (hKi6n)

Can confirm
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 07, 2021 01:52 PM (XvPQV)

Maggiano's.
Mens room.
Third stall on the left.
Written evidence!
A thousand years from now archeologists will wonder at who Ace was.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 02:06 PM (axyOa)

372 Glad to see Moldbug get a shout out! Definitely one of the most important and influential political thinkers of the last couple decades.

For those interested, he's now writing under his real name Curtis Yarvin at The Gray Mirror on Substack. Check it out, it'll put more wrinkles on your brain

Posted by: Jack at June 07, 2021 02:06 PM (h38D8)

373 "Should it turn out that scientists and experts and NGOs, etc. are villains rather than heroes of this story, we may very well see the expert-worshiping values of modern liberalism go up in a fireball of public anger."

Whose anger? Not the Left's. That is to say, the Left will never direct disenchantment or anger at the expert class for its failures. No, it will only double-down in its rage against those who would see the failures as an opportunity to reject their idols. Their anger would mingle with panic at losing power.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 07, 2021 02:06 PM (0XkJ8)

374
========

Well, looks like I don't believe in God anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (LvTSG)

Welcome to the Dark Side.

Posted by: Democrats at June 07, 2021 02:06 PM (Zz0t1)

375 Occam's razor. The Chinese were being economically destroyed by Trump's economy and trade negotiations. Their plan to become the worlds foremost superpower was being flushed down the drain. Their Belt and Road efforts were being undermined. They were losing ground with Taiwan and Hong Kong. Intelligence agencies have lots of PhD's gaming out these types of scenarios. Those analysts figure on a certain amount of cooperation from despotic Democrats and others who would put their politics above country and countrymen.

It isn't even a hard call to say this was deliberate. In fact it's the easy call. So ask yourself- why didn't the "intelligence agencies" make it?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2021 02:06 PM (VpIIl)

376 Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (v16oJ)

For me, it's looking at the diagram on Dr. office walls. Whether it's an ear, an ankle, or anything in between, it's always so incredibly complex! And it's just a stupid ear! To get an entire body working together so well... there's no way it happened by accident. I just don't buy it.

Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 02:06 PM (U1eOr)

377 Posted by: pep at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (v16oJ)

Most people don't even wonder why water is one of the only substances where the liquid has a higher density than the solid. If water was like nearly every other compound on Earth (liquid density < solid density), it's unlikely that life would ever form.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 07, 2021 02:06 PM (Y5qcH)

378 Ask someone under 50 what "Allied Van Lines" was named for.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2021 02:07 PM (OTzUX)

379 And yes, it has been my experience that the lest scientifically trained are the most "I f'ing love Science" obnoxious. I think they want the assurance of scientific study without the trouble of learning it, so they rely on an "expert" who says what they fear or want to be true as a proxy.

Midwits. They are just smart enough that they can figure out how to game the system, and to realize that they aren't smart enough to actually do anything revolutionary. They're middle-management and HR and high school teachers and so they're insecure about their social positions. "I fucking love science" is an affection designed to try and demonstrate their superiority over their midwit peers.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 02:07 PM (jOcSX)

380 "Well, looks like I don't believe in God anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (LvTSG)"

Ah, yes. But he believes in you.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2021 02:07 PM (VpIIl)

381 380 "Well, looks like I don't believe in God anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (LvTSG)"

Ah, yes. But he believes in you.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2021 02:07 PM (VpIIl)

========

But, I'm not Chuck Norris.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 02:08 PM (LvTSG)

382 And yet the evolutionists say I believe in fairy tales.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (Rvt8

Irreducable complexity.

Any non functional step on the way to the fully formed heart, or eye, or whatever, would be an evolutionary disadvantage, therefore should fail.

Some woowoo secularists trot out punctuated equilibrium arguments, but that's just begging the question.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 02:08 PM (6FeV1)

383 The Jehova's Witnesses calculated several dates that have come and gone. I believe their current claim is that Jesus came in private, you just aren't cool enough to know about it, dude.

I think they have a 40,000 special group membership that gets to the executive suite in heaven and they were gathered, is how it goes. Been a decade or two since I really studied JW though and they have changed since then.

There is a Christian interpretation of eschatology called "preterism" which holds that most of the predictions of Christs coming in the Bible refer to AD70, and to His coming in judgment, not glory. I'm coming to appreciate that perspective more and more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 02:08 PM (KZzsI)

384 >>>357 I'm still waiting for a journalist to ask Fauci what was the last year he looked through a microscope or held a test tube.

Posted by: Azathoth

I bet wasn't too long ago. Almost certainly one of the celebrity profile photographers would have brought some props like that to his photo shoot. You'd have to add some sort of qualifier, like "in earnest" or better yet "and not as a prop in a celebrity profile photo shoot."

Posted by: Match Checksout at June 07, 2021 02:08 PM (dYe5S)

385 Some of the most religious people I know of are doctors and scientists. They say that the more they learn, the more they know there must be a supreme creator God.

Doctors in particular are more inclined to believe in miracles than others, having seen them repeatedly in their work.

***

Same.

I have a niece in her late twenties with an advanced degree who works in a lab doing DNA research. She was a very brainy kid with a high IQ and got a degree in molecular biology. You'd have to look around for awhile to find a more devout Christian than she is.

And she's a great mother.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 07, 2021 02:09 PM (A31uo)

386 ""If you can answer this one question, I will stop going to church: Who was the first mover?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (LvTSG)
"

Let's do a whole thread on Saint Thomas' Summa Theologica

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2021 02:09 PM (VpIIl)

387 They've known for at least ten years that the high carb, low fat diet they pushed leads to heart disease. yet every "wellness" program you have to deal with pushes the same diet. And just like with Wuflu, the folks pushing those diets were getting money for telling you to follow them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at June 07, 2021 02:09 PM (5HBd1)

388 Most people don't even wonder why water is one of the only substances where the liquid has a higher density than the solid. If water was like nearly every other compound on Earth (liquid density
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 07, 2021 02:06 PM (Y5qcH)

Water has all kinds of freaky properties.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 02:09 PM (6FeV1)

389 Most people don't even wonder why water is one of
the only substances where the liquid has a higher density than the
solid. If water was like nearly every other compound on Earth (liquid
density
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 07, 2021 02:06 PM (Y5qcH)

Water has all kinds of freaky properties.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 02:09 PM (6FeV1)

Like doing butt stuff.

Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 02:10 PM (KnJdm)

390 Let's do a whole thread on Saint Thomas' Summa Theologica
Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2021 02:09 PM (VpIIl)

Why not do-a the whole-a thing-a?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 02:10 PM (6FeV1)

391 > My daughter once asked my why I, a scientist, go to church.

My problem with modern Empiricists is that the very root of their system of belief cannot be proven. How do you know there is a physical reality outside your consciousness that you're examining empirically?

You can't. You have assume it. Some of us call that "taking it on faith." So given that you have to take such a foundational thing on faith, how about you ease up with your attack on my foundational belief that the Christian God exists, OK?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 07, 2021 02:10 PM (YYlyE)

392 Partial Preterism makes much sense out of Revelations and the latter chapters of Matthew...

Posted by: kraken at June 07, 2021 02:10 PM (6Je/Q)

393
Some woowoo secularists trot out punctuated equilibrium arguments

It is little known that ampersands play no role whatsoever in punctuated equilibrium, whereas semicolons are }} this {{ close to ruling the roost there.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2021 02:11 PM (pNxlR)

394 Even if there was a desire to do something to China there is no practical way to materially hurt a country when your own military relies on that country for electronics and component nor when the 70-80 percent of the products the Walmart's and amazons of the world sell are manufactured in that country.

We were sold out to the CCP 40 years ago getting out from under their thumb will be virtually impossible given the current political climate and reality.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2021 01:41 PM (OZvoA)

Half the population resolving to not buy Chinese goods would break them.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 07, 2021 02:12 PM (yQpMk)

395 The Krebs cycle has 15 or 16 convoluted steps, one of which produces the oxygen to support life on earth.

It's never been clear how the Krebs cycle could "evolve", since to work, it had to have been "up and running" all at once.

Posted by: artemis at June 07, 2021 02:12 PM (AwPyG)

396 in fairness being a logger has to be a shitty job.
Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 02:01 PM (oxpXX)

Loofah boy for Lena Dunham.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 07, 2021 02:12 PM (2JVJo)

397 We were sold out to the CCP 40 years ago getting out from under their thumb will be virtually impossible given the current political climate and reality.
Posted by: Thomas

you're overthinking this

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 02:12 PM (oxpXX)

398 Water has all kinds of freaky properties.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 02:09 PM (6FeV1)

Like doing butt stuff.
Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 02:10 PM (KnJdm)

And water sports. Although that's not exactly "pure" water.

Posted by: Wally at June 07, 2021 02:13 PM (FJYfm)

399
It's never been clear how the Krebs cycle could "evolve", since to work, it had to have been "up and running" all at once.

Well, I'm not telling.

There's no need to thank me ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2021 02:13 PM (pNxlR)

400 So given that you have to take such a foundational thing on faith, how about you ease up with your attack on my foundational belief that the Christian God exists, OK?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 07, 2021 02:10 PM (YYlyE)

I refuse to be lectured to by trousered apes.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 07, 2021 02:13 PM (yQpMk)

401 Partial Preterism makes much sense out of Revelations and the latter chapters of Matthew...

Yeah it does. Some take it too far, but I am becoming more convinced that its sound exegesis. For example, Luke 17, the whole section about the coming of the Kingdom of Heaven is in context a very negative, dire thing. But most people read it as a rapture, where some are "left behind" and some are not.

The context is of people who flee when they see danger coming, not people being taken away from the danger.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 02:13 PM (KZzsI)

402 I half laugh and half scowl at anyone who says, "but you're smart, how can you be religious?"

A) Fuck you, bigot
B) read a book you didn't buy at the airport once in a while.
C) you're pretty dumb, how come you don't go to church?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 02:13 PM (6FeV1)

403 Water has all kinds of freaky properties.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 02:09 PM (6FeV1)

Like doing butt stuff.
Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 02:10 PM (KnJdm)

It is nature's lube

Posted by: 2Dogs at June 07, 2021 02:13 PM (2cfUo)

404 I bet wasn't too long ago. Almost certainly one of the celebrity profile photographers would have brought some props like that to his photo shoot. You'd have to add some sort of qualifier, like "in earnest" or better yet "and not as a prop in a celebrity profile photo shoot."
Posted by: Match Checksout at June 07, 2021 02:08 PM (dYe5S)

Read the annual report of any science-related company. I absolutely guarantee there will be a photo of a black guy in a lab coat holding up a test tube of green shit for the inspection of a blonde girl also in a lab coat.

You know, the kind of thing that happens all the time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 07, 2021 02:13 PM (YqDXo)

405 My question is how did the need for sense of sight develop? I can understand how smell and touch and hearing could happen because there was actual contact with that stimuli.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 07, 2021 02:13 PM (2DOZq)

406 >>>A friend who is a true expert and follows this stuff thinks that they will hollow out much of Trump's trade death-grip on Chy-nah via exemptions and expirations of temporary measures. All of which will receive minimal "coverage", natch.
...
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2021 02:05 PM (OTzUX)
-------

He's passing out bits of America like uncle tossing tossing candy to kids.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2021 02:14 PM (kMTsG)

407 Half the population resolving to not buy Chinese goods would break them.

At this point I do not see how that is feasible, unless you live in a cabin in the wilderness and make everything yourself. Including the nails you built the cabin with and the glass in the windows.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 02:14 PM (KZzsI)

408 Look at the art and music created by and service to Christianity. That alone should tell any thinking person there is something to it.

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 02:14 PM (8dVNa)

409 Don't question the science!
I've taken to wearing a white lab coat everywhere i go.
Nobody ever questions anything I say. Its amazing.
And if they are dumb enough to ask for advice, i give it.
Hilarious!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 02:15 PM (axyOa)

410 @375...You got it. That's what happened.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 07, 2021 02:15 PM (8HvsU)

411 My question is how did the need for sense of sight develop?

In order to ogle boobs, duh.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 07, 2021 02:16 PM (0T+zz)

412 It's never been clear how the Krebs cycle could "evolve", since to work, it had to have been "up and running" all at once.

Well, I'm not telling.

There's no need to thank me ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars

I'm warming to your ideas. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 02:16 PM (Rvt88)

413
----------> https://madeinamericastore.com/

Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2021 02:16 PM (kMTsG)

414 The patent makes sense if they were doing the studies (as claimed) to find out how to better combat these kinds of viruses. So it *might* not be nefarious, necessarily, but it is more or less proof that it all came from the lab.

(Sloppy and stupid might be nefarious. Future plans might be nefarious.)

Posted by: Synova at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (BD/yx)

415 I just got a box of chocolate covered macadamia nuts from a patient.

Neener.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (W2Pud)

416 Breaking news: Xi Jinping breaks ground on new manufacturing hub city to be called "America"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (6FeV1)

417 Don't question the science!
I've taken to wearing a white lab coat everywhere i go.
Nobody ever questions anything I say. Its amazing.
And if they are dumb enough to ask for advice, i give it.
Hilarious!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 02:15 PM (axyOa)

It worked in Owebama's Rose Garden.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

418 >>>Water has all kinds of freaky properties.

>>Like doing butt stuff.

And water sports. Although that's not exactly "pure" water.

Posted by: Wally at June 07, 2021 02:13 PM (FJYfm)

And it thinks it has the solution to everything!

Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (KnJdm)

419 OMG! It's raining again! I am so thankful! I thought my mud was going to dehydrate and I had no idea how to wet it again.

Seriously, it can stop at any time.
We are at 12+ inches.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (OCTRt)

420 @375...the only addition I have is re your question. Our betters knew, and know, the truth. Kindly, they're terrified that telling the truth would necessitate war with China.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (8HvsU)

421 just got a box of chocolate covered macadamia nuts from a patient.

Neener.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (W2Pud)

Macadamia nuts are the best because they contain the most fat of any nut.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 07, 2021 02:18 PM (2DOZq)

422 >>The patent makes sense if they were doing the studies (as claimed) to find out how to better combat these kinds of viruses. So it *might* not be nefarious, necessarily, but it is more or less proof that it all came from the lab.

...except for that 2015 CCP military paper outlining how they were exploriong bioweapons such as bat covid.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2021 02:19 PM (bDqIh)

423 Seriously, it can stop at any time.
We are at 12+ inches.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (OCTRt)
---------------

Save that water for late July and August.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2021 02:19 PM (kMTsG)

424 Now I know what to call Leftist professor.

Academia Nuts

Posted by: Just a side note at June 07, 2021 02:19 PM (A6Xv7)

425 I just got a box of chocolate covered macadamia nuts from a patient.

/envy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 07, 2021 02:19 PM (KZzsI)

426 We are at 12+ inches.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (OCTRt)

Some more than others.

Posted by: flounder at June 07, 2021 02:19 PM (KnJdm)

427 We are at 12+ inches.
Posted by: rickb223

The Paolo, how you say, smiles and thinks you have come up short.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 02:19 PM (Rvt88)

428
Seriously, it can stop at any time.
We are at 12+ inches.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (OCTRt)

Right? I wanted to build a shed out of all this pallet wood, but looks like I should build an arc.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)

429 Posted by: nurse ratched at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (W2Pud)

Hilo Hattie's strikes again

Posted by: 496 at June 07, 2021 02:19 PM (U1eOr)

430 *waves at nurse ratched* Thank you for the card!

Look at the art and music created by and service to Christianity. That alone should tell any thinking person there is something to it.
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2021 02:14 PM (8dVNa)

Was it Mozart who said he was composing but transcribing from Heaven or something like that?

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 07, 2021 02:19 PM (GbPPJ)

431 We are at 12+ inches.

So are we

Posted by: The Hoard at June 07, 2021 02:20 PM (2cfUo)

432 > Macadamia nuts are the best because they contain the most fat of any nut.

You're a fat nut!

Posted by: Macadamia Nuts at June 07, 2021 02:20 PM (YYlyE)

433 nood

Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2021 02:20 PM (kMTsG)

434 We are at 12+ inches.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (OCTRt)

Can I borrow some? I think we are at minus 12. Grass is seriously brown, and it's the beginning of June.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 07, 2021 02:20 PM (45fpk)

435 Macadamia nuts are the best because they contain the most fat of any nut.
Posted by: J

which is the round bout way of saying nuts suck more than just about everything out there that has more fat, which is why they are hidden beneath sugar and fat

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 07, 2021 02:20 PM (oxpXX)

436 Nude DeSantis

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 07, 2021 02:20 PM (yQpMk)

437 I just got a box of chocolate covered macadamia nuts from a patient.

Neener.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 07, 2021 02:17 PM (W2Pud)

Nurse, did you bring enough to share with every one?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2021 02:20 PM (axyOa)

438 Macadamia nuts are the best because they contain the most fat of any nut.

I gave your mom a fat nut last night.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 07, 2021 02:20 PM (jOcSX)

439
Macadamia nuts are the best because they contain the most fat of any nut.
Posted by: Just a side note at June 07, 2021 02:18 PM (2DOZq)

So does my sack.

Posted by: Fat Guy in a Little Coat at June 07, 2021 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

440 Don't question the science!
I've taken to wearing a white lab coat everywhere i go.
Nobody ever questions anything I say. Its amazing.
And if they are dumb enough to ask for advice, i give it.
Hilarious!
Posted by: Diogenes

You gotta have a clipboard!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2021 02:21 PM (OCTRt)

441 https://madeinamericastore.com/

Posted by: Braenyard

Obligatory: James Brown

https://youtu.be/c5BL4RNFr58

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2021 02:21 PM (Rvt88)

442 Chinese Military Scientist Applied for Patent For Covid Vaccine Before the Official Acknowledgement That Covid Existed -- and Died "Mysteriously" Weeks Later

Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon...

Posted by: Zombie Yusen "George" Zhou at June 07, 2021 02:21 PM (awtm/)

443 Suck on my fat chocolate nuts.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 07, 2021 02:21 PM (UuD2k)

444 Is there really anyone left who thinks this was all some sort of science experiment that got out of hand? Because I imagine more revelations are in the pipeline.

My favorites are when the good guys drop the pics of politicians, glad-handing with the CCP representatives and accepting awards.

Holy smokes, Abbott, etc; are you that tone-deaf?

Posted by: artemis at June 07, 2021 02:22 PM (AwPyG)

445
Read the annual report of any science-related company. I absolutely guarantee there will be a photo of a black guy in a lab coat holding up a test tube of green shit for the inspection of a blonde girl also in a lab coat.

You know, the kind of thing that happens all the time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I worked in the man-made textiles industries for the better part of twenty years. One time some bigwig up the line decided that there needed to be a video made of we HEROIC AND KNOWLEDGABLE SCIENTISTS toiling in the fields of New Knowledge, so they sent a crew to film us running a small scale reactor that made polyacrylic polymers. Fine.

Film crew shows up, sets up, gets puzzled looks after about five minutes and then stops their filming to ask, "Where are the colored solutions of materials that you use to make the polymer?"

"There are no such solutions used to make our polymers," we replied.

HUGE problem for the show-and-tell crowd, of course. We had to mix up some brightly colored solutions and store them in large clear glass containers in the background before the show-and-tell crowd could proceed with their "rigorous science" filming work.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2021 02:22 PM (pNxlR)

446 Just watered garden, over 90 very little chance of rain

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2021 02:24 PM (Cxk7w)

447 USPTO Patent Application search below showing his earlier applications.

He is a real guy. That is his real field. If reported information is true, the case in question publishes around Aug. 24 this year (18 mo.).

Goto: "https://appft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-adv.html"

and put in:

IN/Yusen and IN/Zhou

Posted by: CDN CONSERVATIVE PATENT AGENT at June 07, 2021 02:25 PM (77id5)

448 I think the lab leak "fact" is wrong too. Its the lab release fact.
And since I missed the last thread, my opinion is the star wars sequels and prequels not only sucked but had a deleterious effect on the original 3, so they suck now too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 07, 2021 02:25 PM (r+sAi)

449 Jay Guevara has it exactly backwards. The USA used to be first-to-file; the rest of the world first-to-invent. The American Invents Act made us first-to-invent like the rest of the world.

Posted by: Patent Troll at June 07, 2021 02:29 PM (0iB8F)

450 The Guardian excerpt was a shocking combination of hysteria, delusion and ignorance, a typical example of today's leftist thought.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at June 07, 2021 03:00 PM (Su9Le)

451 "In other words, just file any old patent filled with bullshit and guesses that might give you some legal pretext to sue upon later, huh?"

Maybe, maybe not. What I've seen so far indicates that even at the time of filing someone had intimate knowledge of specific attributes of COVID that are not shared with SARS, etc.

Also keep in mind that world health orgs knew this was a thing at least a full month before the actual public announcement. THAT, we already know.

Posted by: somedood at June 07, 2021 03:21 PM (7QclL)

452 About "The New Clerisy", prosperous NPR liberals . . . and Anthony Fauci is the current pope . . . "

Last Thursday's NPR commentary on 5 things we should learn from Fauci's emails. Like "he was uncomfortable with his celebrity":
https://tinyurl.com/3na4khmp

Posted by: KT at June 07, 2021 04:17 PM (BVQ+1)

453 The guy you quote above does not know how patents work.

A patent must be enabling at the time the application is filed or it will be rejected. You cannot add enablement after the application is filed.

Posted by: blue13326 at June 07, 2021 05:52 PM (b3aks)

454 This patent was doing the rounds just as the covid mania struck early last year.

Posted by: Political McGuffin at June 07, 2021 06:20 PM (80Sdw)

455 What's weird is that the guy who wrote the article in the Leftist Guardian has it nailed down as good as any 'ron on this site.
Despite the dig at Trump, he gets it.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 07, 2021 02:03 PM (HrMC1)

It's written by Thomas Frank whom I wouldn't trust as far as I could kick him.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 07, 2021 06:49 PM (y7DUB)

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Chinese Military Scientist Applied for Patent For Covid Vaccine Before the Official Acknowledgement That Covid Existed -- and Died "Mysteriously" Weeks Later
Plus: Kill The Cathedral