Paul Ryan: Conservatism Is Doomed Unless We Embrace Corporate Left-Libertarianism
Cheney: My Re-election Will be a Referendum on the Viability of the Republican Party

My my my my my. The corporate liberals are really insistent that the party cannot exist without them.

Liz Cheney basically says that if people vote her out of office, that's the death of the GOP.

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), the embattled former Republican conference chair, during an interview Wednesday with the Wall Street Journal's "Women, Power and Equity" event, said she sees her "re-election bid as a referendum on the future of the Republican Party."

The Wyoming Republican said voters are "potentially facing a choice between what she sees as traditional conservative values and loyalty to former President Donald Trump." She said she already sees the upcoming 2022 midterm election as being a difficult one for her.

...

She continued to say, "I really do think it's one that will be a moment where the people of Wyoming can demonstrate to the country our commitment to the Constitution." Cheney believes the race will be "very important in terms of the future of the party and the future of our republic."


I know this is going to shock you, but corporatist left-libertarian Paul Ryan plans to give a speech, parts of which have leaked, insisting that the GOP must give up on its social and cultural political agenda, in favor, no doubt, of reducing corporate tax rates.


"If the conservative cause depends on the populist appeal of one personality, or on second-rate imitations, then we’re not going anywhere," Ryan plans to say according to speech excerpts released to Punchbowl News.

To win back the majority in Congress, Ryan will predict, Republicans need to focus on "conservative principles" and be agreeable.

"We win majorities by directing our loyalty and respect to voters, and by staying faithful to the conservative principles that unite us," he plans to say. "This was true even when the person leading our movement was as impressive, polished, and agreeable as they come."

He means Romney.

Romney lost.

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Ryan will also ask conservatives to resist fighting every cultural battle picked by the left, suggesting that ordinary Americans are growing tired of the culture clash.

"We conservatives have to be careful not to get caught up in every little cultural battle," Ryan will say. "Sometimes these skirmishes are just creations of outrage peddlers, detached from reality and not worth anybody's time."

Ryan will argue that Republicans are getting too distracted by minor grievances.

"Culture matters, yes, but our party must be defined by more than a tussle over the latest grievance or perceived slight," he plans to say.

Social libertarians like Paul Ryan -- and 90% of the Conservative, Inc. media -- fight for the left's social and cultural agenda, but not honestly, not straightforwardly by proclaiming their belief in the left's socio-cultural agenda.

No, the do so crookedly, sneakly. They advance the left's goals not by explicitly supporting the leftwing cultural agenda -- that would be too honest -- but instead by attacking conservatives for fighting back in the culture war.

They never have a damn thing to say about the left's constant cultural aggressions -- and do not propose to do anything about the left's nigh-unbroken string of culture war victories -- but they always have something critical to say about conservatives merely resisting the cultural left, or trying to push back on fronts where the left has recently seized ground.

There was a saying of Orwell's popular during the War on Terrorism: Pacifism -- in an age of Nazi conquest -- is objectively pro-fascist. That is, if you're not fighting the Nazis -- and, indeed, if you're undermining the efforts of others to fight the Nazis -- you are objectively on the Nazi side, even if you refuse to be honest and fly the Nazi flag yourself.

This is precisely what these cultural liberals are doing. They refuse to honestly admit that they are on the left's side -- that they support the Court's imposition of gay marriage, and that they do in fact support the imposition that bakers must bake cakes for gay weddings.

They don't like it when deplorables fight these things, and would like their political cousins to stop embarrassing them at parties.

They don't like it when conservatives oppose chopping off parts of children's bodies because a kid has decided that today he's a female and maybe a unicorn too.

And they don't like it when conservatives are so declasse as to refuse the "polite request" (a polite request backed up with the threat of getting you banned or fired) that we use people's preferred pronouns.

Again, they find it embarrassing when conservatives kick up a fuss about that.

Can't conservatives just be cool about the left's total victory in the culture war, like the left-libertarians are?

And of course, they think conservatives are despicable -- racist, in fact -- for demanding secure borders and a democratic say in who it is who is allowed to immigrate here and become a citizen.

They speak of this in terms expressly taken from the left -- enforcing the border is "enforcing a white nationalist ethno-state."

(They also talk a lot about foreigners being better citizens than mere Americans.)

Now, in all these cases, I say again, they are too cowardly and dishonest to proclaim, honestly, that they are on the left side of these issues, and indeed, always have been on the left side.

No, they won't say that.

Instead, they'll just continue attacking you and undermining you and sabotaging you when you attempt to fight the left on these issues.

They won't honestly march with the left during their campaigns.

They'll just sneak around the battlefield filling in the trenches you have dug and ripping down the pickets you have erected.

Just as being pacifist in a time when Nazis have taken over most of Europe is to be objectively on the side of the Nazis, so too is it to be a member of the Left when you demanding that the right (and the right only!) stop fighting the culture war when the left has won on almost every cultural issue.

Paul Ryan is basically saying, "Do we have to argue and scream about every single little country Hitler has conquered? Can't you guys all be cool about this, libertarian about this, like me?"

Fuck these people. Fuck them to hell.

If you're wondering how it can be that we've held the presidency and Congress at the same time for multiple years in the past 20 years but have never won on our core priorities, it's because the "conservative" side of the Ruling Class is and always has been Patriots of the Cultural Left.

You can't win a war when your generals are fighting for the other side.

As "..." said: The GOP is the Establishment's last line of defense against conservatism.

BTW: Note that Paul Ryan is deliberately vague about which cultural issues he wants conservatives to cede completely to the left.

Think anyone in the Conservative, Inc. media is going to demand he get specific about that? Think they'll ask him if it's the transgender surgery for children he wants to keep, or the men competing in women's sports he wants to keep?

Or the open borders policy he wants to keep?

Likely answer: All three.

But he will never, ever, ever admit that.

He'll continue lying about all these things, lying about what his actual positions and "principles" are, and call himself a Nobel Truth-Teller for having the courage to lie to the deplorables, as Anthony Fauci does, to deceive them into a Higher Truth.

So no, the Conservative, Inc. media will not smoke Paul Ryan out on these issues, because they're running the exact same hustle.

Posted by: Ace at 04:26 PM




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1 something something "on the other side".

Posted by: mikeski at May 27, 2021 03:27 PM (P1f+c)

2 Ace-the headline says "Rand Paul", when you meant "Paul Ryan".

Posted by: pep at May 27, 2021 03:27 PM (v16oJ)

3 Correct the headline, i think...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 27, 2021 03:28 PM (5wfds)

4 Paul is Paul

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 27, 2021 03:28 PM (3H9h1)

5 2 Ace-the headline says "Rand Paul", when you meant "Paul Ryan".
Posted by: pep at May 27, 2021 03:27 PM (v16oJ)

I was wondering about that.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at May 27, 2021 03:28 PM (z5Vrg)

6 Rand Paul or Paul Ryan?

Posted by: Ironman at May 27, 2021 03:28 PM (1pHN8)

7 Think you meant Paul Rino, not Rand Paul, in that headline.

Posted by: pincorrect at May 27, 2021 03:28 PM (3LmBI)

8 What Liz fails to comprehend is that a GOP which keeps her isn't a club to which I wish to belong.

Posted by: pep at May 27, 2021 03:28 PM (v16oJ)

9 What pep said.

Posted by: EXTERMINATE! at May 27, 2021 03:28 PM (hbrUW)

10 Die GOP.

You will not be missed.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2021 03:28 PM (ddM9D)

11 >>>Ace-the headline says "Rand Paul", when you meant "Paul Ryan".
Posted by: pep at May 27, 2021 03:27 PM (v16oJ)

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Eh, I've heard it both ways.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs: Now fortified with Remdemsivir at May 27, 2021 03:28 PM (nlCrc)

12 wow

stumbles into a top 10

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 27, 2021 03:28 PM (bTQ72)

13 Rand Paul?

I had to read into the post to see it was an error, I was ready to head out on another 4 month vacation.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 27, 2021 03:29 PM (5p7BC)

14 The title should say Paul Ryan and not Rand Paul. Rand did nothing wrong!

Posted by: Grammer_Nazi at May 27, 2021 03:29 PM (Aas81)

15 No thank you, I would fk the Leftists every chance I can.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2021 03:30 PM (Cxk7w)

16 This was a test, wasn't it, to see if we're paying attention.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 27, 2021 03:30 PM (PiwSw)

17 The Walrus was Paul

Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 03:30 PM (HrMC1)

18 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 27, 2021 03:30 PM (arJlL)

19 Liz Phair > Liz Cheney

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 27, 2021 03:30 PM (PiwSw)

20 Damn near had a heart attack reading Rand Paul turned. Phew.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:30 PM (xSsm7)

21 FWIW, "First line of defense" Not "last."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 27, 2021 03:30 PM (nI1Kq)

22 I see Liz Cheney is moving her goalposts.

Prioritize your staff's remaing time and get them to whip up a super duper resume and cover letter.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (cwI4U)

23 Yep, had to do a double-take on the Rand Paul part only to realize it's supposed to be Paul Ryan. BIG difference.

Posted by: JPV at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (T6elx)

24 >>>5 2 Ace-the headline says "Rand Paul", when you meant "Paul Ryan".


thank you, I have deleted that, like Steve Hayes, to prevent the spread of bad information.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (0G13K)

25 How many columnar inches and pixels will be wasted on a rando politinerd wetdream that the Speaker of the House doesn't have to be a member and that the Republicans could take the house and choose Paul Ryan?

Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (ZfRYq)

26 i literally always say Rand Paul when I mean Paul Ryan and vice versa

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (0G13K)

27 Thank you. Somehow I can't imagine Rand Paul saying "What's a litttle IG Farben between friends?"

Posted by: JEM at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (8erNz)

28 I see where Leftism is going and will take us.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (Cxk7w)

29 If Paul Ryan and Liz Cheney are the Republican Party's gatekeepers and litmus test, I have never wanted to be a Republican less.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (Jsjd7)

30 thank you, I have deleted that, like Steve Hayes, to prevent the spread of bad information.
Yes, but you actually have an audience.

Posted by: pep at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (v16oJ)

31 Said this earlier today. The future of the Republican party is:

1) Nationalist
2) Middle Class
3) Antiwar

Paul Ryan, Liz Cheney, and the rest of the dinosaurs can either adapt to the new reality or get plowed under. There is no going back.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (5p7BC)

32 The Republican party that elected Liz Cheney is already dead. It still shambles along, occasionally stopping to screech "Donations!" like some sort of decaying zombie looking for it's next victim, but it is dead.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 27, 2021 03:32 PM (SchxB)

33 test

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at May 27, 2021 03:32 PM (snOKo)

34
Conservatism Is Doomed Unless We Embrace Corporate Left-Libertarianism

_________

Awwwww! Idnat cute! Give the little doggie a biscuit.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 27, 2021 03:32 PM (mht8P)

35 F Paul Ryan.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 27, 2021 03:32 PM (OCTRt)

36 What Liz fails to comprehend is that a GOP which keeps her isn't a club to which I wish to belong.

She make me want to join a club so I can beat her over the head with it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 27, 2021 03:32 PM (HaL55)

37 Dang, that's a lot of people reading the content.

Posted by: mikeski at May 27, 2021 03:33 PM (P1f+c)

38
Yeah, Rhombley - folded like a cheap set and he always will.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2021 03:33 PM (pNxlR)

39 Conservatism is a dumb word today. What are we conserving? We need to be the radicals.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:33 PM (xSsm7)

40 WTF is bumbles biden even going to spend $6T on?

I bet biden is one mean mutha in private

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 27, 2021 03:33 PM (bTQ72)

41 Girthy post, Ace. And I agree with every word.

Yet I fear Cheney will be re-elected and Ryan will be the defining voice of the party. That's just how delusional these nickelfuckers are.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 27, 2021 03:33 PM (2JVJo)

42 Ryan, Liz, please, just pick ONE anti-conservative position Trump held that you find so detestable.

Just one.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 27, 2021 03:33 PM (KbCG3)

43 i literally always say Rand Paul when I mean Paul Ryan and vice versa
Posted by: ace at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (0G13K)


In fairness, Rand Paul's libertarianism worries me precisely because of what we're seeing with other libertarians: they don't want to fight the culture war, or are actively on the other side.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 27, 2021 03:34 PM (jOcSX)

44 Liz Cheney basically says that if people vote her out of office, that's the death of the GOP.
And? Seriously every issue I cared about the GOPe punted on, surrendered on, or joined the enemy.
If I'm going to vote for the GOPe I might as well just become a Democrat and see if I can get in on the graft as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 27, 2021 03:34 PM (DpkTQ)

45 The people who are wrong never shutting the fuck up is an unfortunate price of free speech. Too bad nobody reads the comments for them.

Posted by: DaveA at May 27, 2021 03:34 PM (FhXTo)

46 Ryan will also ask conservatives to resist fighting every cultural battle picked by the left, suggesting that ordinary Americans are growing tired of the culture clash.
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Wait just one GD minute here. What the actual fuck does this mean?

The Left fights on all fronts simultaneously, while the professional Right decides that *whatever* the theater of conflict is, it isn't the hill to die on. No one is doing target selection *or* defense. The Left attacks everything and the Right defends nothing.

What drugs are Ryan doing? Are they available for sale at my local street corner or are they the exotic, boutique shit?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 03:34 PM (Jsjd7)

47 Say Paul, maybe you should debate Joe again. This time bring your nutsack.

Posted by: wth at May 27, 2021 03:34 PM (v0R5T)

48 I really do think it's one that will be a moment where the people of Wyoming can demonstrate to the country our commitment to the Constitution.

Do they have those phony balogna voting machines and rigged elections in Wyoming too? Because I expect the good people of Wyoming to throw that skank out on her ass, otherwise.

"Commitment to the constitution" my ass. You ain't foolin' anybody. Just word salad ordered up by her corporate handlers.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 27, 2021 03:34 PM (HWisp)

49 Gotta go hike down by the ocean, but Ryan's a lightweight and always was. And the degradation of the populace and the public square to the point where such vapid platitudes - which were vapid 20 years ago, not just now - are not simply laughed out off the state, is something to behold.

No, "conservative principles" is an idiotic concept for airheads like Hannity and slightly less vapid grifters like Ryan.

Policies and results, you cretins, policies and results. Rule of law, secure borders, full employment, rising real household incomes for the entire spectrum of the income distribution, rational trade policies, rejection of delusional racism - simple stuff, idiots. Nothing to do with "culture".

Cheney's cooked, Ryan's marginalized in terms of actual political influence now. But the dead weight of the GOP and voter laziness/ignorance + "two party system" = great inertia to overcome. Those are the challenges. These mediocrities aren't even interesting.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2021 03:34 PM (OTzUX)

50 They have branched out. They used to focus on those idiot pro-lifers (like me) to tell us to get out of the way. They knew we had no other representation even if we squinted and held our noses. They thought we would never reach a point where our representation wouldn't matter. Well, when the lever in the voting booth is connected to nothing, the GOP loses, because "staying in line" doesn't work anymore. They think they can win without us, and without people who don't want men in their daughters' bathrooms, and without people who don't want to live in a war zone, and without people who don't want to bake the cake . . .

Posted by: Catherine at May 27, 2021 03:35 PM (+CqU9)

51 I think you're giving Ryan/Romney too much credit. Y'see they're against fighting the "Culture war" but in favor of fighting everything else.

False! They don't fight on immigration, election fraud, etc. that will give the D's ultimate victory on EVERY issue. Further, they don't fight the D's on Trade or spending or do ANYTHING to stop the Leftist take over of the business/academic/legal institutions.

Ryan/Romney only fight the Democrat on ONE thing: taxes for the rich. And helping Big Business. That's it.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:35 PM (evE25)

52 41 Girthy post, Ace. And I agree with every word.

Yet I fear Cheney will be re-elected and Ryan will be the defining voice of the party. That's just how delusional these nickelfuckers are.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 27, 2021 03:33 PM (2JVJo)

=====

Nah...she's gone. Everyone knows it.

The issue is that McCarthy will act like that's enough, and the Republican caucus will make him Speaker in 2023.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 27, 2021 03:35 PM (5wfds)

53 Liz thinks her election is a referendum on the whole party? No ego on that one. Nosiree.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 27, 2021 03:35 PM (kTF2Z)

54 If you had told me in 2012 that Paul Ryan would eventually be able to make me MORE viscerally angry than Barack Obama, I would never have believed it.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 27, 2021 03:35 PM (pr+za)

55 The Republican party can always remain:

1. Corporatist

Yeah, that's all that I can think that they stand for. Their buddies in corp America.

That being said, they could drive people out, and we could be forced into a new party. Which might not be bad, since there are mod. Dems that would never be Rs, but they might consider a different party.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2021 03:35 PM (tjZg/)

56 Conservatism is dead unless we kill it? Makes as much sense as anything else.

Posted by: klaftern at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (r4sI4)

57 Conservatism is doomed unless we kill it!

Posted by: weew, livin' free in Florida at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (+m+uH)

58 "We conservatives have to be careful not to get caught up in every little cultural battle," Ryan will say.

Essentially, more of "this isn't the hill to die on" defeatism.

Fuck off, Ryan. I was fooled once by you and your "conservative principle" schtick, but never again.

Posted by: Thrawn at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (uGhsv)

59 Liz Cheney ....when SNL notices

https://bit.ly/3oXujIJ

Posted by: runner at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (V13WU)

60 Remember, 2022 is the most important election of our lifetime. Do you really want to risk a loss to the Dems just to punish the GOP?
- every Con,Inc article a year from now.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (xSsm7)

61 You know, I think they're right. The Republican Party, as it has been and is now... is dead if we don't embrace the stupid destructive crap they have long been.

The GOP has not been the Party of Reagan except a few years in the past, as an aberration. Its been the party of Nixon and Hoover forever. This isn't the party of small government, its the party of big business and internal party politics and government power, just over different areas than the Democrats.

The only reason any of us has ever supported the Republicans in the past is that they have been amenable to sometimes actually leaning conservative when forced to. Coolidge, Reagan, the 94 Newt congress.

So yeah: that party dies if they don't embrace their Chamber of Commerce fat cat ways. And die, it should.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (KZzsI)

62 @31 Dave in Fla-There is no future of the Republican Party as far as a presidential election. It's a regional party for now, or until the left wrests control of holdout red states.

Posted by: JROD at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (0jZnq)

63 Luap Dnar > Luap Nor

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (ddM9D)

64 @56 is there an echo in here? heh

Posted by: weew, livin' free in Florida at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (+m+uH)

65 Paul Ryan doesn't have the balls to actually say he wants to give up on the cultural wars (more precisely that he wants you to give on the cultural wars) ... he's just doing that passive aggressive thing NeverTrumpers like to do of saying "not this battle at this time because we need to focus on really important things ... like the capital gains tax rate and making sure corporations don't have to stoop to hiring American workers ... and let's be sure to bomb Syria too."

Posted by: Match Checksout at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (dYe5S)

66 And why are we even talking about paul ryan? He deserted his post in 2017 and RESIGNED as speaker of the house. Why didn't he stay and FIGHT for a Republican Agenda? Answer: Because he didn't care.

So, now we're supposed to care what this LOSER and QUITTER says? Sorry, no can do.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (evE25)

67 The Cheney/Ryan GOPe that includes Mittens can die MF die.

Posted by: Archer at May 27, 2021 03:37 PM (gmo/4)

68 54 If you had told me in 2012 that Paul Ryan would eventually be able to make me MORE viscerally angry than Barack Obama, I would never have believed it.
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 27, 2021 03:35 PM (pr+za)

Same. At least you knew Obama was an enemy. People like Ryan feign friendship and then either stab you in the back themselves, or mutely watch as their brethren do it.

Posted by: Thrawn at May 27, 2021 03:37 PM (uGhsv)

69 People on twitter responding to the ATL councildude getting his car stolen are screeching that 'defund the police' doesn't mean 'defund the police.'

And by people, I mean bat-shit insane sheep.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 27, 2021 02:19 PM (nI1Kq)
************
They should be questioning why he purchased a Mercedes coupe and Range Rover and claiming that his identity was stolen so he didn't have to make payment. Then he was indicted by a grand jury. Why is he still in office?

Posted by: redridinghood at May 27, 2021 03:37 PM (NpAcC)

70 Ryan will also ask conservatives to resist fighting every cultural battle picked by the left, suggesting that ordinary Americans are growing tired of the culture clash.

Translation: Just die quietly, don't ask too many questions.

F these people. Bought and paid for ambulatory turds.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 27, 2021 03:37 PM (HWisp)

71 Remember, 2022 is the most important election of our lifetime. Do you really want to risk a loss to the Dems just to punish the GOP?
- every Con,Inc article a year from now.


If the Dems win, conservatives are screwed.

If the Rs win, conservatives are screwed.

What is the benefit of supporting either side nationally.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2021 03:37 PM (tjZg/)

72 First, and this is huge: These culture wars are currently aimed straight at our *kids*. The culture wants to separate them from us and turn them into angry, sexually confused/sexuallydeviant/sirically maimed, Onlyfans addicted freaks who will endlessly lecture and or report us for unwoke badthink. So NO, Paul, that is not something that can ignore.

Second, and I guess this is huge, too: You guys never want to talk about what's important to us apart from the culture wars, such as Immigration control, Endless wars, repealing Obamacare, fiscal responsability, etc.

What would Paul Ryan really have us forcus on, one wonders?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 27, 2021 03:38 PM (bDqIh)

73 If the corporate tax, the inheritance tax, and open borders are your hills to die on, well...I don't really care if you die on those hills.

Posted by: Wally at May 27, 2021 03:38 PM (Cge5i)

74 I'm a social conservative. Remove the "social" from "Teh Conservatives" and I won't think twice about never voting again. At least on the national level.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:38 PM (45fpk)

75 66 And why are we even talking about paul ryan? He deserted his post in 2017 and RESIGNED as speaker of the house. Why didn't he stay and FIGHT for a Republican Agenda? Answer: Because he didn't care.

So, now we're supposed to care what this LOSER and QUITTER says? Sorry, no can do.
Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (evE25)

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Because Trump was just the worst.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 27, 2021 03:38 PM (5wfds)

76 Here's the truth. Paul Ryan is a Globalist. He's a liberal. He's a complete corrupt fraud. He only differs from Pelosi on two things:

1) cutting taxes for the rich
2) Pushing the Chamber of Commerce Agenda.

that's it.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:38 PM (evE25)

77 Next, Paul Ryan will be telling us that -- like Alan Greenspan and Hillary Clinton before him -- he's a totally dedicated accolyte of the philosophy of Ayn Rand.

Wait, wut?

Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2021 03:38 PM (qGehY)

78 If the capital gains tax for people earning more than $10M a year goes up by even 1/2 a percent the terrorists have won.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:38 PM (xSsm7)

79 So, now we're supposed to care what this LOSER and QUITTER says? Sorry, no can do.
Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (evE25)
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To a point, yes. He is still a Party machinator and represents the dominant wing of the GOP and works against the base's interests behind the scenes. His is a world of insider skulduggery.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 03:38 PM (Jsjd7)

80 If the corporate tax, the inheritance tax, and open
borders are your hills to die on, well...I don't really care if you die
on those hills.

Posted by: Wally at May 27, 2021 03:38 PM (Cge5i)


Could not have said it any better.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:39 PM (45fpk)

81 LOL this is almost as funny as Dee Snider trying to speak for the metal genre

Posted by: weew, livin' free in Florida at May 27, 2021 03:39 PM (+m+uH)

82 She think that the dems will conjure up 2020 ballot box magic for her, for everything she's done for them ? How deluded is she ?

Posted by: runner at May 27, 2021 03:39 PM (V13WU)

83

VOTE HARDER !
AND SEND MONEY TO STOP THE Ds AND THEIR SOCIALIST PLANS
SEND MONEY TODAY !

Posted by: The GOPe at May 27, 2021 03:39 PM (bTQ72)

84 Liz knows she will NOT win. Liz knows she is hated.
And that is so nice to know.

Posted by: sidney at May 27, 2021 03:39 PM (+fjIe)

85 He just wants us to write checks and watch Fox News, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 27, 2021 03:39 PM (bDqIh)

86 Minor grievances? Practically every major organization I deal with and those I don't as well, have programs and advertising campaigns proudly and aggressively pushing the subjugation and end of people like me.and forcing me to the back of the bus (although they will still gladly take my money.) But whatever, more tax breaks for Big Box Corp and stadiums for sportsball is what the GOPe should fight for.

Posted by: Ripley at May 27, 2021 03:39 PM (MxEKc)

87
Look, whether or not the voters want it (they don't), and whether or not the Ryans and Cheneys of the Uniparty are right (they're not), this viewpoint will prevail in the GOP, because it is not remotely conservative. At all. In any way, shape, or form.

I always say their Uniparty faction is the center-left faction, but I'm increasingly unsure that's even accurate. I think it's more just a CPSU(b)/CPSU(m) thing. Two closely related factions of the hard Left.

And it's good that they'll prevail. The Republican Party absolutely must be destroyed before there is any hope of forming an actual political opposition in the US. And they're doing a fine job of destroying it.

But, hey - if it manages to limp along until the total consolidation of Democrat Party power is complete, I'll get to see people like them debased, beaten, tortured, humiliated in public, and then shot down like stray dogs by their victorious Party cohort.

So it's really a win-win, AFAIC.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 27, 2021 03:40 PM (Uh2oA)

88 Paul Ryan is a quisling. I remember when he, McCarthy and Cantor were going to save us all and they turned out to be informants for the other team. As for Cheney, surely Wyoming can't fuck this up.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at May 27, 2021 03:40 PM (xEIoY)

89 If it takes 40 years wandering around in the wilderness for the GOPe to either accept they are in the wrong or to die off, so be it.

May the GOPe enjoy being this close to the majority in the House and Senate. If actual conservatives sit it out in 2022, you'll never be this close again for a long time. In the meantime, we'll focus on local elections.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 27, 2021 03:40 PM (cwI4U)

90 I have the strange impression Paul Ryan is a man without core values. He's empty inside just like Senile Joe.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 03:40 PM (cSyAR)

91 What would Paul Ryan really have us forcus on, one wonders?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 27, 2021 03:38 PM (bDqIh)
++++
Sitting down, shutting up, sending money and thanking them for their service.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 03:40 PM (Jsjd7)

92 "We conservatives have to be careful not to get caught up in every little cultural battle," Ryan will say.

This is the cocktail party circuit speaking. These guys have to go hang out with the movers and shakers where the real work gets done and feel embarrassed that they have supporters who think homosexual marriage is crazy, that boys cannot become girls, and that its racist to hate that happens to be caucasian.

They're outnumbered, they're surrounded by the true believers and are politicians, so they lack a spine, principles, and honor. So they won't stand up to this, fight it, or hold true, they just feel shamed and shunned and want us to just shut up so they can get more young men in wars around the world and shuttle more money to big corporations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:40 PM (KZzsI)

93 Which Paul? Paul Lynde?

Posted by: dantesed at May 27, 2021 03:40 PM (88xKn)

94 They really are out of touch with the base. It's breathtaking.

Posted by: Infidel at werk at May 27, 2021 03:40 PM (/oG9s)

95
Will you help us defeat Obammacare?
Send money to suport our defeat of Obamacare

Posted by: The GOPe at May 27, 2021 03:40 PM (bTQ72)

96 No more mean tweets, though. Right?


We've been losing the culture war since the 60s

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2021 03:41 PM (W2Pud)

97 Does anyone remember that Ryan did ZERO to stop Biden and Hillary from getting elected? Or that he SABOTOGED trump's agenda in 2017-2018? Or that he was on Fox's Board of Directors and never said anything about Fox News calling Arz for BIden?

What does Ryan have to do before Republicans realize he's a traitor? Give biden a BJ on national TV?

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:41 PM (evE25)

98 If we seal the border the price of lettuce may increase by 5% and that would be devastating for the economy. But printing $6T and making the US dollar worthless.....no problemo.

- Mitch and the Boyz

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:41 PM (xSsm7)

99 If we allow the left unfettered and unopposed access to our children - and they win - then there will not be anything else left to fight for. Taxes will not matter. Nothing will matter. Society will be lost, and any concept of freedom will be erased.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:42 PM (45fpk)

100 60 Remember, 2022 is the most important election of our lifetime. Do you really want to risk a loss to the Dems just to punish the GOP?
- every Con,Inc article a year from now.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:36 PM (xSsm7)

They can just reverse engineer their 2020 articles about how it was essential to lose to the dems to stop Trump.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 27, 2021 03:42 PM (KbCG3)

101 Trump said pussy!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 27, 2021 03:42 PM (kTF2Z)

102
What is the benefit of supporting either side nationally.
Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2021 03:37 PM (tjZg/)

-------

To ask is to answer. There isn't any. In fact, supporting the GOP is completely counterproductive and detrimental.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 27, 2021 03:42 PM (Uh2oA)

103 I apologize for saying Paul Ryan is a man of no values.
That was mean.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 03:42 PM (cSyAR)

104 Tell you what Mr. Ryan, I'll trade you corporate rates at 50% and we keep the social issues.

Posted by: Corona-exile_back_in_exile at May 27, 2021 03:42 PM (O0QMT)

105 Related: Why are the Smart People(TM) in both branches of the UniParty down on Populism? Isn't the People getting what they want and what they voted for the very essence of Democracy? And of Representative Democracy, aka a Republican Form of Government?

If/when the People ever realize they've been bamboozled for over 200 years, there will be blood.

Posted by: Gref at May 27, 2021 03:42 PM (AMIL/)

106 >>If we allow the left unfettered and unopposed access to our children - and they win - then there will not be anything else left to fight for. Taxes will not matter. Nothing will matter. Society will be lost, and any concept of freedom will be erased.


Exactly, grammie!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 27, 2021 03:42 PM (bDqIh)

107 If the GOP ISN'T conservative and doesn't fight for what us, the conservative voters (ha) want....there is no point to having a GOP....unless they're just controlled opposition.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 27, 2021 03:43 PM (uxJPn)

108 Liz thinks her election is a referendum on the whole party? No ego on that one. Nosiree.

Posted by: Duke Lowell


She's correct, but she has it backwards. Her reelection would show that the Democrats run Bartertown.

Posted by: mikeski at May 27, 2021 03:43 PM (P1f+c)

109 What we really need is another pointless war in the middle east. That's the heart and soul of conservatism right there.

Posted by: brak at May 27, 2021 03:43 PM (7zNZK)

110 Paul Ryan. That's the dude who uses nipple rouge, right?

Posted by: wth at May 27, 2021 03:43 PM (v0R5T)

111 I used to call myself a Conservative and actually subscribed to national review and considered Limbaugh and Coulter "Conservatives". That was 20 years ago.

Now, "Conservative" means David French, Paul Ryan, and Bill Kristol. Its just another word for Liberal. I call myself Right wing now. conservativism is for losers.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:43 PM (evE25)

112 Remember, 2022 is the most important election of our lifetime. Do you
really want to risk a loss to the Dems just to punish the GOP?

Why yes, yes I do. Trust me when I tell you that this is a question you don't want to ask.

Posted by: pep at May 27, 2021 03:43 PM (v16oJ)

113 Society will be lost, and any concept of freedom will be erased.

I believe that we already crossed that line. It was too haarrrd to home school or sacrifice and find a good private/charter school to send your kids to. I mean, that would require parents to give up streaming and high speed internet and the second car and yoga classes and the new console games. You'd have to cut streaming and skip vacations and not have the latest phone!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:44 PM (KZzsI)

114 i added:

BTW: Note that Paul Ryan is deliberately vague about which cultural issues he wants conservatives to cede completely to the left.

Think anyone in the Conservative, Inc. media is going to demand he get specific about that? Think they'll ask him if it's the transgender surgery for children he wants to keep, or the men competing in women's sports he wants to keep?

Or the open borders policy he wants to keep?

Likely answer: All three.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2021 03:44 PM (0G13K)

115 Pail Ryan doesnt have to worry about culture wars since he wont be affected by them. His kids schools wont suddenly be 75% non English speakers. He will never not get a job for being a white male. He will never have to worry about losing his livelihood for a 10 year old social media post that at the time was not controversial.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:44 PM (xSsm7)

116

But he will never, ever, ever admit that.

He'll continue lying about all these things, lying about what his actual positions and "principles" are, and call himself a Nobel Truth-Teller for having the courage to lie to the deplorables, as Anthony Fauci does, to deceive them into a Higher Truth.

So no, the Conservative, Inc. media will not smoke Paul Ryan out on these issues, because they're running the exact same hustle.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2021 03:44 PM (0G13K)

117 People like Ryan are the biggest own-goal losers in history. They mistake compliance for courage. They use their offices for subversion and call it comity. They're not leaders or prescient, they're conformists who craft their carnival barking to fit their paymasters. They really have no idea why real leaders like Trump are so popular with people. They don't see the fact he served us, not the Washington establishment. To them, he's a aberration, and we must get back to their contrived script to "survive". Never. Once people have tasted success and freedom there is no going back to the Cheney's, Ryan's and the Chamber of a commerce Republicans. We just built one of the broadest, most diverse coalitions on the history of our party- and they don't even see it. All they see is they want their grift back. Pathetic.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 27, 2021 03:44 PM (gp+Cz)

118 Paul Ryan thinks he's relevant. He really isn't anymore.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 27, 2021 03:44 PM (NpAcC)

119 In honor of the Chinese Cuck John Cena. These dickheads are Kayfabe Conservatives.

Look up kayfabe and you'll see how wonderfully it applies to these fakes.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (p2CgX)

120 Frankly, this might be a good idea. Let both sides see how reality stacks up.

Maybe if we win they'll at least shut up having lost so many times.

My guess? They're more in tune with the GOP base than we are.

Said to say, there's just too many squishes. Even here. (in their secret hearts.)

Posted by: jakee308 at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (wd9fW)

121 Listen, fellow severe conservatives, we all must be hanged together and follow the new Buckley-Kristol-Goldberg-Hayes Standard:

SHUT UP, AND KEEP VOTING FOR THE LEAST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE MOST LIKELY TO LOSE!

OH, AND SEND US MOAR MONEY HARDER ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (qGehY)

122 Liberals shout "We want suicide now!"
"conservatives" shout "We want suicide tomorrow!"

Posted by: GK Chesterton at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (O0QMT)

123 We conservatives have to be careful not to get caught up in every little cultural battle

You lose 100% of the battles you don't fight. Conservatives need to stop trying to be liked. Try to win. Win everything.

Posted by: I Noticed at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (iTqVJ)

124 Now, "Conservative" means David French, Paul Ryan, and Bill Kristol. Its just another word for Liberal. I call myself Right wing now. conservativism is for losers.
Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:43 PM (evE25

What do those idiots mean by conservative.
I don't think I've ever heard any of them express a conservative thought.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (cSyAR)

125 I once had a good back-and-forth conversation with Paul Ryan about sanctity of life and first amendment issues. He was very passionate about protecting religious liberties and freedom of conscience. He went on at some length. I wonder what happened to that man?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (45fpk)

126 Yet I fear Cheney will be re-elected and Ryan will be the defining voice of the party. That's just how delusional these nickelfuckers are.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 27, 2021 03:33 PM (2JVJo)

That describes Arizona as well. No matter how much we hated McCain he kept winning the primaries. The GOPe ran the AZ party and kept the challengers from gaining any traction.

It is still happening. There are state representatives and senators voting against making voting secure and bad mouthing the audit even as it continues.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado - Tempus belli) at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (N3El/)

127 Cheney: My Re-election Will be a Referendum on the Viability of the Republican Party

Indeed. If you win, bitch, I'll never vote Republican again.

Posted by: jbspry at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (ATe9j)

128 >>>85 He just wants us to write checks and watch Fox News, right?


Correct. You are a garbage person whose opinions need to be shaped, by deceit if necessary, by your betters.

You will learn to live with less.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (0G13K)

129 Paul Ryan thinks he's relevant. He really isn't anymore.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 27, 2021 03:44 PM (NpAcC)
++++
Time will tell. If the GOP listens to him, he is not irrelevant at all.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 03:46 PM (Jsjd7)

130 To win back the majority in Congress, Ryan will predict, Republicans need to focus on "conservative principles" and be agreeable.

The GOPe has certainly been agreeable towards the murder of the republic. So, mission accomplished...?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 27, 2021 03:46 PM (DTX3h)

131 Dave in Fla-There is no future of the Republican Party as far as a presidential election. It's a regional party for now, or until the left wrests control of holdout red states.

Posted by: JROD
----------------
Depends on how you want to count.

If you count voters, then the new GOP has a healthy majority in the nation and states.

If you count tabulated votes based on fraud, then probably not.

Take out party identification and focus on cultural affinity. As we stand right now, the combination of nationalist/middle class/war skeptics is a solid majority of voters (meaning actual live people) in PA, OH, WI, MI, IA, IN, great plains states, TX, AZ, and all the southern states excepting possibly VA (and maybe there too).

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 27, 2021 03:46 PM (5p7BC)

132
We've been losing the culture war since the 60s
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2021 03:41 PM (W2Pud)


The 60s is when the commies started to take over education. Fill the kids' heads with raw sewage before they're old enough to develop a Bullshit Detector.

Wolves preying on the young and vulnerable. And we let them.

Posted by: weew, livin' free in Florida at May 27, 2021 03:46 PM (+m+uH)

133 I don't know if Paul Ryan is personally on the cultural left, but I do know that the people from whom he seeks lucrative employment after his term in office are on the cultural left. They're also in the business of purchasing labor, and not selling labor, so you can guess where "the remaining 7.5 Billion people on the planet are more American than actual native born Americans (except blacks and gays)" comes from.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at May 27, 2021 03:46 PM (HCRZt)

134
pro tip to the GOP

Since you let Joe Biden flat out steal the 2020 election and did almost nothing to stop that because of some fucked up idea that you have class and up bringing and were not like that icky Orange Man Bad.

I will fight you more than the Ds,

Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (bTQ72)

135 Liz sent a letter to my late mother, hoping to grift her out of more money. The letter... well...

Dear XXXX,
As an unapologetic conservative in the United States House of Representatives, I am honored to lead the charge for our Republican agenda and hel shape a better future for our Party and our Nation.

Since I was first elected, 've fought to restore America's strength and standing in the world, to pursue conservative solutions that stimulate job growth, to cut taxes and onerous regulations, and expand America's energy, mining and agricultural industries...

Putting my principles and responsibilities first has made me an enormous target, but I am not - and will not be - deterred. America needs leaders who are not afraid to do what's right regardless of political fallout.
(emphasis hers)

It goes on the same way, but rest assured, she is the very picture of conservative values and strength and we can beat those bad democrats if only you send all your $$$.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (wAnMi)

136 Admittedly they are in kind of a tough spot. The Bolshies want us all dead, and are now overt about saying so in public without equivocation. Americans, for their part, are understandably bewildered by their representatives, who refuse to represent them. So they are finding it more difficult to split that baby, by appearing to at least pay lip service to basic human decency and good sense, which is now Wholly Unacceptable and actionable Hate Speech.

A more odious collection of worthless sacks has never been collected. It's simply amazing.

Washington needs an Enema

Posted by: Common Tater at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (HWisp)

137 McCain reminds me of ryan. McCain was such a liar. He was in their getting us a "deal" on illegal immigration because we needed border security and someone to pick our lettuce.

Later, like Bush, he came out said he didn't give a Bleep about any of that. He just loved immigration and open borders. Because cheap labor and he loved foreigners. 100 percent globalist. Notice that Bush is now pushing Amnesty and saying ZERO about border security or the need to have legal immigration. He just wants Amnesty and open borders. Globalist scum, just like Cheney.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (evE25)

138 To win back the majority in Congress, Ryan will predict, Republicans need to focus on "conservative principles" and be agreeable.


And once they win, they will abandon all conservative principles like they have done every single time we elect a trad politician.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (tjZg/)

139 117
Posted by: Marcus T at May 27, 2021 03:44 PM (gp+Cz)
.........

^^^^

Posted by: wth at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (v0R5T)

140 The Democrats: We want to have sex with all your kids!
Paul Ryan: That's crazy. We offer only half of America's children for your orgies.

Later the bang 75% of American Children Act passes.

Paul Ryan: What is with these people? They don't understand compromise!

Posted by: 18-1 at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (DpkTQ)

141 125 I once had a good back-and-forth conversation with Paul Ryan about sanctity of life and first amendment issues. He was very passionate about protecting religious liberties and freedom of conscience. He went on at some length. I wonder what happened to that man?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (45fpk)

He no longer needs your vote.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (p2CgX)

142 One of the things that really disappoints me and used to surprise me is how hard it is to pass school choice programs in Republican states. The left is literally using school monopolies to defeat incumbent Republicans. And those Republicans still can’t get it in them to break that monopoly.

There is no survival instinct, just submissive ass-raising.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (CX3cf)

143 Ryan is puny and weak and he can't even squat his own tiny bodyweight.

Posted by: Max Power at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (Hucnr)

144
Again with the generalisms, no specifics.

These fake Republican Shits never give specifics but repeat trite phrases such as "traditional conservative values."

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 27, 2021 03:48 PM (Nynrq)

145 off English sock

Posted by: Corona-exile_back_in_exile at May 27, 2021 03:48 PM (O0QMT)

146
Base: Lower taxes, fewer regulations, closed border, no CRT.

Frank Luntz: The base wants CRT, gun control, and open borders. They don't care about taxes and regs.

McCarthy: We should support common sense gun regulations and police reform.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 27, 2021 03:48 PM (kTF2Z)

147 Sean said Paul Ryan is a great American. So he must be one.

Posted by: 72 year old Fox News viewer at May 27, 2021 03:48 PM (xSsm7)

148 I wonder what happened to that man?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (45fpk)

My guess is whores, booze and money.

But mostly money.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2021 03:48 PM (ddM9D)

149 I'm watching a lovely bartendress fix a Corpse Reviver on YouTube. That should be the theme cocktail for the next Republican convention.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 03:48 PM (cSyAR)

150 America first is not a cult of personality. It was the bedrock of both parties until the globalist jerkbags like Ryan and Romney and the Biden crime family found they could make more money by selling their fellow countrymen down the river.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at May 27, 2021 03:48 PM (QyHvw)

151 Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:43 PM (evE25)


That's "Extreme Right Wing"!

And smile when you say that.

Yeah. All that stuff the left called us years ago, is now true.

We haven't shifted. They've gone off the charts.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 27, 2021 03:48 PM (wd9fW)

152 Orwell disavowed the "objectively pro-Nazi" argument.

https://tinyurl.com/dzy6k2v5

Better not to use it.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 27, 2021 03:48 PM (7X3UV)

153 agreeable = BOHICA

Posted by: wth at May 27, 2021 03:49 PM (v0R5T)

154 I personally know so many upper middle class left leaning LIVs that "demand a living wage" and also do NOT pay SS tax on their latin American nannies. Because who has the kind of money to pay an American to take care of your kids! They want like $15/h!

Posted by: 18-1 at May 27, 2021 03:49 PM (DpkTQ)

155 she sees her "re-election bid as a referendum on the future of the Republican Party.


She's not wrong.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2021 03:49 PM (yQpMk)

156 @111 rcocean-Well when you let assholes like the GOPe steal words and language like we do the left, that can happen. That or you can tell them to go F themselves, I'm still a Conservative I haven't let these c*cksuckers steal my f'ing words, language, philosophy.
Start a new party with the same principles as conservatism and call it something else and some unscrupulous POS will co-opt that too to get elected.

Posted by: JROD at May 27, 2021 03:49 PM (0jZnq)

157 e was very passionate about protecting religious liberties and freedom of conscience. He went on at some length. I wonder what happened to that man?

Either he never was that but just argued it, was that, but lost it because Trump was so icky he can't stand to be associated with him in any way, or has completely lost his way after losing in 2008 and is hungry for power and status in a leftist-controlled system.

I dunno. So many previously solid-seeming people went off the cliff when Trump was elected that its very difficult to understand what happened to them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:49 PM (KZzsI)

158 Honestly, you take Trump and his few elected supporters and what does the Republican Party stand for?

Nothing. Except helping big business and fighting endless wars in the middle east. That's why Trump could take over in 2016. Ryan is a clown. McCarthy the same. Mitch mcconnnell couldn't get elected dog catcher outside of Kentucky. No one can stand Romney except Mormons. Its a total zero.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:50 PM (evE25)

159 Yah, They're always deliberately vague.

Or they manage a misunderstandable pile of word salad that you have to take 5 minutes to parse and if you do you find out they haven't said anything.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 27, 2021 03:50 PM (wd9fW)

160 Ryan is puny and weak and he can't even squat his own tiny bodyweight.
Posted by: Max Power at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (Hucnr)
++++
That doesn't bother me. If I want to be ruled by whoever can lift the heaviest pig, I'll move to the Congo.

What does bother me is that he's pernicious, dishonest, cowardly loser who never met a principle he didn't eagerly look to sacrifice on the altar of greater power and money. He's a vain, grasping, loser and has no business being in any position of influence anywhere on earth. Any honest organization would have kicked him to the curb long ago.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 03:50 PM (Jsjd7)

161 129 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 03:46 PM (Jsjd7)

I've been a republican since before I could vote, if the GOP is now all about letting the left redefine gender, attacking me on race with impunity, and granting the GOP stamp of approval on woke corporatism then I am something else.

They can save Paul Ryan from illegitimacy, but not themselves in that case.

Posted by: sven at May 27, 2021 03:50 PM (Lzpvj)

162 We've brought so many new voters into the party, most of them truly don't even know who Paul Ryan is. I am sure he's relevant to someone, maybe his wife. Maybe not. What the hell did Ryan ever accomplish. Nothing.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 27, 2021 03:50 PM (gp+Cz)

163 Bush and Cheney saved America from terrorists. His daughter deserves respect.

Posted by: 72 year old Fox News viewer at May 27, 2021 03:50 PM (xSsm7)

164 156 @111 rcocean-Well when you let assholes like the GOPe steal words and language like we do the left, that can happen. That or you can tell them to go F themselves, I'm still a Conservative I haven't let these c*cksuckers steal my f'ing words, language, philosophy.
Start a new party with the same principles as conservatism and call it something else and some unscrupulous POS will co-opt that too to get elected.
Posted by: JROD at May 27, 2021 03:49 PM (0jZnq)

I'm a Noseriouslystopstealingournamesist.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at May 27, 2021 03:50 PM (z5Vrg)

165 Of ALL the Republicans I EVER voted for, I think the ones I hold in the most contempt are Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.

Screw 'em.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 27, 2021 03:51 PM (wtvvX)

166 31 Said this earlier today. The future of the Republican party is:

1) Nationalist
2) Middle Class
3) Antiwar


I'd assume you include energy independence under nationalism, because that frees us from a lot of crap we've been battling since the '60s.

I'd assume you'd include pushback against the social agitators in 'middle class'.

In terms of 'antiwar', there are wars of necessity and wars of convenience. We haven't really won a war of convenience since 1848. Even the first Gulf War, as well as it went off militarily, opened Pandora's box. It might not have had Bush 41 (or Clinton) taken the Trump "sorry guys, we're just not that into you, call me in a few weeks" attitude toward the Palestinians.

We do have interests and alliances in various places, and if China attacked Japan I don't think we could sit back and twiddle our thumbs. But we do need to be careful about involvements, and Trump was right that alliances need to be reciprocal.

Posted by: JEM at May 27, 2021 03:51 PM (8erNz)

167 160 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 03:50 PM (Jsjd7)

He was such a feckless shithead as speaker he made Boehner look sober and tough.

Posted by: sven at May 27, 2021 03:51 PM (Lzpvj)

168 Has Paul Ryan done anything beside work the grill at McDonalds? Where are my chips, bitch?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 27, 2021 03:51 PM (tVOev)

169 it's 2016 again, the gop's leftist leadership is trotting out a proto-Jeb to tell the base to get dead.

we don't lose elections because of our policies.

we lose elections because:

1. a candidate pre-concedes like McCAin
2. the candidate pre-concedes on voter fraud like Romney and Trump 2020 (it was forced upon him and he kept around his fed goons who refused to help him until he was a super lame duck).
3. targeted losses by Mitch McConnell in every purple senate race so as to blame the base when in reality all that cycle's money went to R+20 safe seats for reasons

Posted by: Tim Riggins at May 27, 2021 03:51 PM (7uiTk)

170 "To win back the majority in Congress, Ryan will
predict, Republicans need to focus on "conservative principles" and be
agreeable.
Posted by: shibumi"

And promise to vote to fully repeal Obamacare on Day 1 and send to Biden for his veto.

Posted by: Ripley at May 27, 2021 03:52 PM (MxEKc)

171 The dog is engaged in a spate of frantic barking. She must smell a progressive.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 03:52 PM (cSyAR)

172 This is that little Eddie Munster-looking cocksucker who ran with Romney, right?

he can fuck off at top speed

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 27, 2021 03:52 PM (iTXRQ)

173 "I once had a good back-and-forth conversation with Paul Ryan about sanctity of life and first amendment issues. He was very passionate about protecting religious liberties and freedom of conscience. He went on at some length. I wonder what happened to that man?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (45fpk) 0

Truth be told, when Ryan was in Washington I had dinner with him a few times. He was once a pretty decent idealistic guy. The swamp really changes people and it changed Ryan. He succumbed to the temptations and that was his end.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 27, 2021 03:52 PM (gp+Cz)

174 Liz Cheney will show that she's a true conservative by turning her fire on the GOP and empowering left wing Monsters as she loses her House seat like the spoiled, "Daddy-said-so" brat that she is. When do you suppose the last callus in the Cheney family (not on the ass) was sloughed off? Before the Civil War?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (HCRZt)

175 125 I once had a good back-and-forth conversation with Paul Ryan about sanctity of life and first amendment issues. He was very passionate about protecting religious liberties and freedom of conscience. He went on at some length. I wonder what happened to that man?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (45fpk)

He no longer needs your vote.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 27, 2021 03:47 PM (p2CgX)

Sad to say he was lying through his teeth to you grammie.
That's what they do. That's what they all do.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (wd9fW)

176 the Repugnican Party is dead to me

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (iTXRQ)

177 Huh. This guy is a private citizen and he's going to be running TV ads to try to get the Canadian border reopened.

Link goes to Buffalo NBC affiliate

https://tinyurl.com/3a25f7yr

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (Wm5SB)

178 He was such a feckless shithead as speaker he made Boehner look sober and tough.

I miss the days when the GOP could put out a powerful, effective speaker of the house, the last chain of them has been utterly pathetic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (KZzsI)

179 The only thing a man hates more than a sworn enemy is a traitor.


This is a truism of human conflict that Ryan and Cheney seem not to comprehend.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (JLXry)

180 What are Mitts core values? What would he refuse to ever surrender on?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (cSyAR)

181 I once had a good back-and-forth conversation with Paul Ryan about sanctity of life and first amendment issues. He was very passionate about protecting religious liberties and freedom of conscience. He went on at some length. I wonder what happened to that man?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (45fpk)


They met his price.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (2JVJo)

182 "Well when you let assholes like the GOPe steal words and language like we do the left, that can happen. "

It was inevitable. They used to call themselves "Moderates". Then Reagan got elected and they figured they could lie and call themselves "Conservatives". it took a while, but people have finally realized that conservative = globalist or moderate or liberal. Hell, if "Conservative" Kristol and vote for Biden that means Biden= conservative. LOL! The word is dead.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (evE25)

183 He went on at some length. I wonder what happened to that man?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:45 PM (45fpk)


Big tech has helped to straighten out a lot of these people who were aimlessly drifting rudderless through a life of lies and misplaced ideology. A strict regimen of weekly money intake does wonders to give a person direction in their lives.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (wAnMi)

184 If these emails were honest.....

Dear Rube,

I stand for nothing but my data miner told me you like words like patriot and conservative so I will use these words several times. I give no fucks about you but every 2 years need to beg you for money. So how about $5, $10? Just have one less margarita at Chilis tonight. You can do tht for me!!

Love,
Your patriotic conservative representative.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (xSsm7)

185 3) Antiwar
I'd clarify this a bit. I don't want to be the world's policeman. But I do want other countries to fear our righteous response if they attack us.

As a reasonable standard I'd propose - *no* US ground troops on foreign soil until we've spent at least a week level bombing every enemy industrial, political, and military target.

"Winning hearts and minds" isn't worth a single GI's life.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 27, 2021 03:54 PM (DpkTQ)

186 hey that last link about those kids who hijacked the car. Reminds me of those kids in DC who hijacked the car. Forget police funding, those are your constituents. They're ... bad. Put a wall around your district and live with them.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at May 27, 2021 03:54 PM (7uiTk)

187 At least with McCain I knew I was 100% voting AGAINST a g*ddamned commie. I actually had some small amount of respect for Romney and Ryan when I voted for them, which of course they have since long ago pissed away in a blaze of corporate fellatio...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 27, 2021 03:54 PM (wtvvX)

188 Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), the embattled former Republican conference chair, during an interview Wednesday with the Wall Street Journal's "Women, Power and Equity" event, said she sees her "re-election bid as a referendum on the future of the Republican Party."

Wall Street Journal.
Women.
Republican Party.

So we have a Woodstock of power players sitting around talking at, through and about one another, and about how they can exploit one another to gain more "power and equity" over you and me.

THIS is why Populism endures.

Posted by: jbspry at May 27, 2021 03:54 PM (ATe9j)

189 The swamp really changes people and it changed Ryan. He succumbed to the temptations and that was his end.

I think that probably is the most likely answer. Like Sasse, he could not resist the rot and corruption around him. And I think Trump was the key here too, like Sasse. They found him repulsive and awful and scrambled for excuses for their gut-level reaction.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:54 PM (KZzsI)

190 I'm no longer a Conservative. Now I'm a Reactionary.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2021 03:55 PM (yQpMk)

191 Conservatism is a dumb word today. What are we conserving? We need to be the radicals.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:33 PM (xSsm7)

+10,000 fish sticks for that Joe guy.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at May 27, 2021 03:55 PM (3AD8C)

192 Kinda hard to threaten a lot of us with the destruction of the GOP when we're busy rooting for the destruction of the GOP.

Posted by: somedood at May 27, 2021 03:55 PM (4ACl3)

193 Damn yo, remember 2012 when we were super stoked for romney ryan?

Posted by: Tim Riggins at May 27, 2021 03:55 PM (7uiTk)

194 Sad to say he was lying through his teeth to you grammie. That's what they do. That's what they all do.

Yep - they're car salesmen. They guy at the Ford lot will tell you all about how he's a blue oval man - until he moves to the GM lot. Then he's all about the bow tie.

Posted by: I Noticed at May 27, 2021 03:55 PM (iTqVJ)

195 . He went on at some length. I wonder what happened to that man?
His conscious keeps saying fight, but the pictures of him with the boys at the gym make him willing to take a knee.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 27, 2021 03:55 PM (DpkTQ)

196 You should see my bank account.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at May 27, 2021 03:55 PM (vbIkY)

197 What would Romney refuse to ever surrender on?
=================================

Romney will never surrender on open borders, corporate tax cuts, wars in the middle east, helping the Democrats, and bathrooms for Trannies.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:55 PM (evE25)

198 The only thing a man hates more than a sworn enemy is a traitor.

I can respect an enemy. An enemy may have honor and fight for his principles.

A traitor has no principles and no honor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:56 PM (KZzsI)

199 I'm no longer a conservative. I'm an American Patriot.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 03:56 PM (evE25)

200 "179 The only thing a man hates more than a sworn enemy is a traitor.


This is a truism of human conflict that Ryan and Cheney seem not to comprehend.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 27, 2021 03:53 PM (JLXry)"

That's because most of the GOP hacks are just in it for money, while the outright commies are aiming higher and are in it for power - and know what they're doing.

You always deal with the traitors first, and harshest.

Posted by: somedood at May 27, 2021 03:56 PM (4ACl3)

201 Look. When they're back home dreaming of becoming a power, they see what they have to say to get there.

When they get there, they see what they have to say to stay there.

And who to say it to.

The founders never imagined a professional politician. A full time job lasting decades backed by the Union (or guild) backing up their run towards life long employment.

C'mon. If you were offered something you really really wanted in return for a few lies, wouldn't you find it difficult to say no?

Sure you say you wouldn't do it NOW that there isn't a real choice.

Few can say what they'll actually do until the choice and the circumstances confronts them.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 27, 2021 03:57 PM (wd9fW)

202 125 grammie winger,
My guess is that he was compromised either by money, power, or sex. That is how Washington DC rolls.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2021 03:57 PM (pO7gM)

203
So many previously solid-seeming people went off the cliff when Trump was elected that its very difficult to understand what happened to them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:49 PM (KZzsI)

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Not for me: The Republican Party was running the most wildly successful, self-empowering, and lucrative scam in the world history of grifting, and Trump fucked it all up. Ruined everything.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 27, 2021 03:57 PM (Uh2oA)

204
How many candidates were there in the GOP primaries in 2016?

How many in 2020?

Nuff sed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 27, 2021 03:57 PM (mht8P)

205 Romney has 1 core value.
Romney.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:57 PM (xSsm7)

206 39 Conservatism is a dumb word today. What are we conserving? We need to be the radicals.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:33 PM (xSsm7)

Technically like capitalism we didn't choose the name.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at May 27, 2021 03:57 PM (z5Vrg)

207 Truth be told, when Ryan was in Washington I had
dinner with him a few times. He was once a pretty decent idealistic guy.
The swamp really changes people and it changed Ryan. He succumbed to
the temptations and that was his end.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 27, 2021 03:52 PM (gp+Cz)


See, that's the side of Paul Ryan I saw too. I worked on his first two congressional campaigns. I think he was a true believer, at least I'd like to give myself credit for not being totally deaf, blind, and dumb. But then something shifted around term 3. I kept waiting to see what I saw, but it was gone and something else was operating by then.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 03:57 PM (45fpk)

208 Kinda hard to threaten a lot of us with the destruction of the GOP when we're busy rooting for the destruction of the GOP.

Indeed. I want both parties to die a horrific screaming death so ghastly nobody ever even mentions them or brings up their policies again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:57 PM (KZzsI)

209 ....and bathrooms for Trannies.....and socialized medicine. When he was busy being on both side of just about every issue he was steadfast on that one.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at May 27, 2021 03:57 PM (3AD8C)

210 Ryan needs to be thrown physically into an active volcano caldera from a helicopter as a sacrifice, or something.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at May 27, 2021 03:57 PM (fECT7)

211 "they think conservatives are despicable -- racist, in fact -- for demanding secure borders and a democratic say in who it is who is allowed to immigrate here and become a citizen. --They speak of this in terms expressly taken from the left -- enforcing the border is "enforcing a white nationalist ethno-state."


The average Christian knows Americanism, and also gets along fine with other ethnicities. But as their kids go off to school, especially "higher learning", they get "injected" with foreign (anti-Liberty) concepts that are engineered as weapons of propaganda.


I do want to learn the history of the world, and the history that underpins our founder's conceptualization of a nation formed on Liberty. BUT academia controls much of that process, and has "Orwellianized" the history into false doctrine that is not so easy to "unwrap".


The old 50's concept of "be true to your school" worked when "old school" was pledge of allegiance to the flag (which stood for liberty). The "Woke school" is to sell out your racist Christian family, because fake history convinces the child to love communism/paganism.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 27, 2021 03:58 PM (Cus5s)

212 "I think that probably is the most likely answer. Like Sasse, he could not resist the rot and corruption around him. And I think Trump was the key here too, like Sasse. They found him repulsive and awful and scrambled for excuses for their gut-level reaction.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:54 PM (KZzsI)"

People really don't understand how insular the Washington culture is. There is a lot of pressure to fundraiser and be part of the crowd. Some people resist those temptations but it can be a pretty lonely road. A lot of people don't have the stones to go the unbeaten path. It's that simple.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 27, 2021 03:58 PM (gp+Cz)

213 Paul Ryan is a piece of crap with feet.
Lez Cheney worried about the death of the GOP if she don't win? Overwrought emotionalism, but I look forward to it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 27, 2021 03:58 PM (z79tQ)

214 Damn yo, remember 2012 when we were super stoked for romney ryan?
Posted by: Tim Riggins at May 27, 2021 03:55 PM (7uiTk)

NO.

That's a disease I never had. Out of my fear and loathing of the SCOAMF I did vote for them. *spit*

Posted by: jakee308 at May 27, 2021 03:58 PM (wd9fW)

215 February headline: Ex-Speaker Ryan joins private equity firm founded by Romney's son

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 27, 2021 03:59 PM (xPl2J)

216 Yeah if there is one thing the founders fucked up was not putting term limits into the constitution. They should have known eventually Congress would turn into a cesspool of corruption.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 03:59 PM (xSsm7)

217 I mean, I got dat I could make your wife dance money.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at May 27, 2021 03:59 PM (vbIkY)

218 The founders never imagined a professional politician. A full time job lasting decades backed by the Union (or guild) backing up their run towards life long employment.

Actually, they did, because they argued how wrong and corrosive political parties were and were very well aware of how things worked in England with parties and career politicians. They warned Americans against it over and over.

But... what's the realistic alternative? They had no answers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:59 PM (KZzsI)

219 Second look at my new LeaveMeTheFuckAlone Party?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 27, 2021 03:59 PM (kTF2Z)

220 @131 Dave in Fla-Since I have no say in how its looked at or counted I'm just going to go off of what I just witnessed last November.
Trump and DeSantis could run in 2024, legitimately receive 300 million votes and they would still lose by 10-20 million votes by the Democrat. I still wonder when it will sink in with a majority of us of what happened the last presidential election. They were brazen and up front in what they were going to do before the election and then they bragged about it in Time Magazine of what they did.

Without a shitload of "ifs" someone would have to explain to me why the Dems/left won't steal an election again.

Posted by: JROD at May 27, 2021 03:59 PM (0jZnq)

221 Paul Ryan looks like a pedophile.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) muses at May 27, 2021 04:00 PM (yQpMk)

222 NO.

That's a disease I never had. Out of my fear and loathing of the SCOAMF I did vote for them. *spit*
Posted by: jakee308

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your side was right. I thought they were legit.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at May 27, 2021 04:00 PM (7uiTk)

223 189 CRT, Sasse was likely pre corrupted. He was a tutor on the House side for pages from 96 to 98 before that program blew up with Jim Kolbe taking camping trips with some pages and Foley's creepy activities.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2021 04:00 PM (pO7gM)

224 Some people resist those temptations but it can be a
pretty lonely road.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 27, 2021 03:58 PM (gp+Cz)


Rand Paul comes close to that, I think.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 04:00 PM (45fpk)

225 The traitor is also more hated because he is more dangerous. You can fight the enemy, but the traitor says he's your friend, while waiting to stab in the back. He tells the enemy all your plans, he opens the Castle gates for them, he gives you bad advice or deliberately leads you into an ambush, all the while telling you he's helping you.

Romney and Ryan help the Democrats 10x more by pretending to be on our side. They sabotage every chance to stop the Democrat's and win.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 04:01 PM (evE25)

226 I'm no longer a Conservative. Now I'm a Reactionary.

I aim to misbehave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 27, 2021 04:01 PM (HaL55)

227
Rand Paul comes close to that, I think.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 04:00 PM (45fpk)

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I certainly disagree with Paul on a variety of things, but he's honest. He goes on the postage stamp where I write the names of "politicians who won't be put against the wall when the time comes."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (Uh2oA)

228 Liz IS right.... her re- election is a test of the viability of the Republican Party.... if you know what I mean...

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (6Je/Q)

229 >>February headline: Ex-Speaker Ryan joins private equity firm founded by Romney's son


Ryan also joined the Clinton Foundation recently.
#Principles

Posted by: Lizzy at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (bDqIh)

230 Paul Ryan? Fuck that guy with Liz-Ard Cheney's girthy cock.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (jvt6t)

231 Liz thinks waayyyy too much of herself.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (nxdel)

232 Paul Ryan looks like a pedophile.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) muses at May 27, 2021 04:00 PM (yQpMk)

Probably besties with Adam Schiff.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (cSyAR)

233 CRT, Sasse was likely pre corrupted.

Maybe, but his speeches and interviews on the constitution and foundation of this country are brilliant and inspiring. His understanding in the past at least of what it means to be a Christian and love liberty were rock solid.

But then Trump came along and he started betraying each and every single fundamental thing he believed in because ick Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (KZzsI)

234 They have four columns outside the party, and a fifth column inside.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) muses at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (yQpMk)

235 Yeah if there is one thing the founders fucked up was not putting term limits into the constitution. They should have known eventually Congress would turn into a cesspool of corruption.

I’m still not convinced term limits won’t make and wouldn’t have made things worse. Term limits for elected officials puts more power in the hands of the deep state. I’d be far more comfortable with term limits for how long anyone can work in government.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (CX3cf)

236 Well there's the turd in the Punchbowl News.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2021 04:03 PM (uAO8Z)

237 Ryan needs to be thrown physically into an active volcano caldera from a helicopter as a sacrifice, or something.

Not sure you can pass someone off as a virgin that's spent so much time whoring himself out to the left, but it's worth a try.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 27, 2021 04:03 PM (SchxB)

238 Crying Racism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Nobody hates "racism" more than Bush, Romney, Ryan etc.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 04:04 PM (evE25)

239 237 Ryan needs to be thrown physically into an active volcano caldera from a helicopter as a sacrifice, or something.

Not sure you can pass someone off as a virgin that's spent so much time whoring himself out to the left, but it's worth a try.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 27, 2021 04:03 PM (SchxB)

But we can try......

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:04 PM (jvt6t)

240 I think that probably is the most likely answer. Like Sasse, he could not resist the rot and corruption around him. And I think Trump was the key here too, like Sasse. They found him repulsive and awful and scrambled for excuses for their gut-level reaction.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:54 PM (KZzsI)"

That they find Trump "awful" or "uncouth" or pussy-grabber is beside the point--that's for the rubes anyway.

They find Trump repulsive because he's causing them to lose money and power
It's a simple as that.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:04 PM (HrMC1)

241 Just in time for Memorial Day...

___

The New Republic magazine says white veterans "wanted to be victims" and directly contributed to white supremacy in America

https://tinyurl.com/xwhxj9k8

Posted by: SMH at May 27, 2021 04:04 PM (M1r8K)

242
227
Rand Paul comes close to that, I think.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 04:00 PM (45fpk)

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I certainly disagree with Paul on a variety of things, but he's honest. He goes on the postage stamp where I write the names of "politicians who won't be put against the wall when the time comes."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (Uh2oA)

There comes a point, YD, where each of us has to weigh the politician as to whether they are a net plus or not, and just run with that.... I even apply that to a few from the other side... can they be an asset , and if so, encourage them.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:04 PM (6Je/Q)

243 Voting Liz Cheney out of office means the end of the GOP? Feature, not a bug.

They don't deserve to continue in the present form and intent. They will deserve votes when they do something in the interests of their voters.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (RMGKK)

244 Paulie Ryan sure could use a rope necktie. So could Lez Cheney.

If they were both adorned as such and hanged over a branch who'd hit the ground? I think Lez outweighs that little turd by a good 30 pounds.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (3H9h1)

245 I disagree with Ace, slightly.

The left has made it extremely fruitless to oppose them on cultural issues- the mischaracterize resistance, demonize opponents, and generally drag any conservative through the mud. I don't think they agree with the left's propositions, and would prefer they don't happen, but they don't see the overwhelming cost to simply hold the line as being worth it.

It's like a family member being a real asshole at the dinner table - is it worth calling them out as an asshole, or just sitting through another 30 minutes?

One way I've noticed the left wins is they refuse any hierarchy of problem importance. That is to say, China is a huge problem. The deficit is a huge problem. Pronouns usage is NOT a huge problem. Conservatives rank problems, progressives do not. To them one pronoun slip is the same as 911, and the same as unending budget deficits. This confuses and upsets conservatives, who keep trying to get back to the important things. To progressives it's all important. This is how emotionally abusive people get their way, by making a goddamn scene about EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (+DS2f)

246 I thought The New Republic was defunct.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) muses at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (yQpMk)

247 But... what's the realistic alternative? They had no answers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 03:59 PM (KZzsI)



In truth, I believe there are none. I don't think any system of governance can ever be immune to corruption, grift, or subversion; indeed, I think all such things inevitable. "Man has dominated man to his injury", in Ecclesiastes 8.


Franklin said "A republic, if you can keep it." Unfortunately, the cares and worries of this world crowd out most people's thoughts, turning them away not just from God (most importantly), but also from the affairs of their people, and their country. The number of people actively, accurately informed about what's going on in our world, and who's saying or doing what, is low indeed; and in this era of misinformation and malfeasance, nearly impossible for a person trying to shake off the cobwebs to navigate their way out of.


At this point, I find myself wondering not about how to save America, but about what of government(s) will emerge out of its ashes. The end seems inevitable.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (JLXry)

248 As to how to win the culture wars, at one time (pre-Obama) I felt that fighting every cultural battle was a losing proposition for the GOP but that there was still a way to win in the long run.
That way is the defunding of things that are antithetical to the society we want as conservatives, back when I still called myself one.
Planned Parenthood, PBS, NEA, etc. Take away government money and some of the energy on the left disappears.

But GOP never did any of that, because they suck.
They're in actuality neither fiscally nor socially conservative, and talk is cheap but it's all the fight they can muster.

So, whatever. We are going full left-tard whether we like it or not, slow or fast seems the only choice.
Ms Cheney and Ms Ryan, where were you assholes when it counted?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (z79tQ)

249 But then Trump came along and he started betraying
each and every single fundamental thing he believed in because ick
Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (KZzsI)


I mean, what IS that? What is that visceral gut-clenching loathing that descends upon people at the mention of Trump? To crumble on your core principals because you don't like somebody? Heck - I hardly like ANYbody, but I still believe what I believe. It's almost like a demonic delusion.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (45fpk)

250 i have idea why Nebraska re-nominated Sasse. I don't see anything admirable in that guy. Its like some obnoxious Massachutes liberal got parachuted into Nebraska and elected Senator.

Posted by: rcocean at May 27, 2021 04:06 PM (evE25)

251 Shit, Jerry Rivers in for Juan. Hope it's temporary.

Posted by: dartist at May 27, 2021 04:06 PM (+ya+t)

252 Trump couldn't be bought. The obamas were broke when they entered the WH. Now they're worth 50 million or so. Chump change to Trump. He probably has uncashed checks for 50 million in his junk drawer.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 27, 2021 04:06 PM (kTF2Z)

253 6 terms in the House
2 terms in the Senate
10 years for federal judges
30 years MAX lifetime limit in govt employ (cumulative)
no former govt official may lobby
MANDATORY retirement at age 70
no one may be elected to the presidency if they have a funny name

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 27, 2021 04:06 PM (iTXRQ)

254
Liz thinks waayyyy too much of herself.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (nxdel)

Unless and until she hangs herself to escape the shame, that'll be true.

Useless, treasonous nepot.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (Uh2oA)

255 If AOC had a driven Wienermobile at Boston U., she could be Paul Ryan's twin.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (tVOev)

256 But we can try......
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:04 PM (jvt6t)

Well, that didn't work. Next!

Posted by: A dude in MI at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (/6GbT)

257 Who is paying Ryan to speak? And why?

He's dead to me and I would guess most actual conservatives.

Oh, and I'm never backing down on "cultural battles."

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (o25GB)

258 WHAT HAS CONSERVATISM CONSERVED has got to be the dumbest f'ing saying here at AoS ever. If you want to say conservatives failed to gain control of the Republican Party, you have an argument.

If you want to say "what has the conservative philosophy conserved?" A whole f'ing lot. You can kiss Rush Limbaugh's dead rotting ass and Thomas Sowells black ass for conserving founding/American principles and keeping it in a spotlight. Thats what f'ing Conservatism has conserved.

Quit fucking equating conservatism philosophy with fuckhead politicians in the GOPe that use the language to fool and get elected. You just sound fucking stupid with this "what has conservatism conserved" bullshit.

Posted by: JROD at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (0jZnq)

259 One way I've noticed the left wins is they refuse any hierarchy of problem importance. That is to say, China is a huge problem. The deficit is a huge problem. Pronouns usage is NOT a huge problem. Conservatives rank problems, progressives do not. To them one pronoun slip is the same as 911, and the same as unending budget deficits. This confuses and upsets conservatives, who keep trying to get back to the important things. To progressives it's all important. This is how emotionally abusive people get their way, by making a goddamn scene about EVERYTHING.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (+DS2f)

The Democrats are 13 year old girls?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (HrMC1)

260 I'm glad conservatives have these great people on your side.

Makes my job of wrecking this republic that much easier, LOL!

Posted by: President NPC at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (FPuSC)

261 >> Just in time for Memorial Day...


SMH, you know they purposely did this right before Memorial Day.

Just as they choose to run the most anti-Christian articles on Easter week, and ones such as "Transwomen Are Moms, Too, Maybe Better!" on Mother's Day and "Sperm Donor Dads Rock" on Father's Day, etc.. They like to do this.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (bDqIh)

262 In other words "We have to destroy Conservatism in order to save Conservatism."

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (xopIz)

263 JROD, because the corporation funders of the current Dem party do not want the unrest that it would cause. They prefer crony capitalism rather than marxism. They would simply pocket whatever they could grift and block the rest of it.

The Dems have their own failure theater problems as the corporations and wealthy billionaires are willing to fund all sorts of hideous social activities that dissolve civil society but not willing to sign on to wealth seizures. Thus Biden's recent stiffing his supporters on student loan forgiveness is par for the course. Globalists want people subordinate and hungry to work. Inflation works the same way as does encouraging endless welfare spending. The poor spend all of the income, the middle class by and large does not. So, eliminate the middle class competition via taxation, bad schools, inflation, etc.

Note that the globalist interests can even keep a president bottled up with disloyal subordinates and lawfare through investigations.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (pO7gM)

264 They find Trump repulsive because he's causing them to lose money and power
It's a simple as that.


For some I am certain that's the case. For others... it really does seem to come down to a "he's icky and not one of us" kneejerk reaction.

Look: what was the reaction of you and 99% of people when you hear Donald freaking "You're Fired" ruined the USFL Trump was running for president?

The instant response by almost everyone was "that orange bozo? Seriously? The guy who went bankrupt like 4 times? The reality show host??" He's crass and bombastic and never stops selling even when its humiliating (like unveiling Trump Wines at a political event). All of that adds up to a big fat NOPE to a lot of people, especially the more pompous and Judge Smails they are to begin with.

And once you pull that emotional lever, reinforced by everyone around you, its very difficult to turn away from that. I know many good pastors who just could not support him because of his serial adultery and open support for homosexual marriage, etc. Just could not, no matter how much he's clearly changed and how much good he did.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:08 PM (KZzsI)

265 The Democrats are 13 year old girls?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (HrMC1)
++++
Duh. Why do you think I got into this business?

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 27, 2021 04:08 PM (Jsjd7)

266 At this point, I find myself wondering not about how
to save America, but about what of government(s) will emerge out of its
ashes. The end seems inevitable.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (JLXry)


At this point, I take comfort in my citizenship in the Kingdom of God, and I rejoice that my name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 04:08 PM (45fpk)

267 First thing, Ace:

You have written many good things.

This is your best.

Ryan, and his handlers at Fox/Con, Inc., realize 2022 is their last grift, don't they? Even the most obtuse conservative or right-leaning voter now realizes the Republican Party is an absolute fraud and bears much, if not most because it didn't push back, of the responsibility for America's descent into totalitarianism and human horror. Reagan railed against the Evil Empire. His successors (save the small bump in the road that was Trump) turned the United States into the Evil Empire II.

They want to milk the rubes one more time. Point to the horrors, which they don't mention this far out, directed against their putative constituents, and declare they will stop it. Yes, sirree, this time they mean it.

Every last elected Republican must be asked to denounce Paul Ryan. If they don't, destroy them.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:08 PM (puu6v)

268 Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (45fpk)

Because the grift was being exposed and they couldn't pretend to be conservative any longer. Smarmy middle men cashing in their 30 pieces of silver.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:09 PM (jvt6t)

269 Ryan will also ask conservatives to resist fighting every cultural battle picked by the left, suggesting that ordinary Americans are growing tired of the culture clash.
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Ah yes. Americans are "tired" of the culture clash.

Remember how they put Hillary's treason to bed? Bernie said "America is tired of your emails".

The script writers are desperately in need of new material. Must be from Hollywood.

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2021 04:09 PM (uEbPt)

270 If AOC had a driven Wienermobile at Boston U., she could be Paul Ryan's twin.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (tVOev)

I don't know if she drove, but AOC definitely rode a few wienermobiles....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:09 PM (HrMC1)

271 In the end conservatives fell like they are trying to be the adults in the room by not having a knock down drag out over every god damn thing the left wants. It's appeasement, it's trying to focus, it's avoidance. It even cowardice. But I don't think it means they support the screaming left.

The biggest problem is here is the press who 1) supports the left and 2) amplifies every single thing into a major catastrophe that must be immediately addressed.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 27, 2021 04:09 PM (+DS2f)

272 263

Note that the globalist interests can even keep a president bottled up with disloyal subordinates and lawfare through investigations.
Posted by: whig at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (pO7gM)

Whig, serious question.... do you see any relationships between crony capitalism and fascism? Because I believe there is.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:10 PM (6Je/Q)

273 So the celebrities who openly wish death upon me and my family - is that just a "slight tussle" that I should laugh off as being of no importance? Should I also shrug at the middle-aged man in a dress who wants to share the bathroom with my daughter? How about the mobs that burn down my city? With no due respect, Mr. Ryan, fuck you.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 27, 2021 04:10 PM (HmZuC)

274 A handful of journalists are reportedly suing Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot for "racial discrimination" after the Democrat refused to grant media requests to white reporters.

https://bit.ly/2TnYA7X

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

Meme: pic of Lightfoot and her white wife.
Caption: Oppressed in the streets, freak in the sheets!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 27, 2021 04:11 PM (OCTRt)

275 The Wyoming Republican said voters are "potentially facing a choice between what she sees as traditional conservative values and loyalty to former President Donald Trump."

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According to Liz lying to your voters and selling them out are traditional conservative values and Trump who kept his promises must be erased from history so his like never rises again. I think Wyoming voters will erase Liz's political career.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 27, 2021 04:11 PM (RMGKK)

276 256 But we can try......
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:04 PM (jvt6t)

Well, that didn't work. Next!
Posted by: A dude in MI at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (/6GbT)

I can guarantee results.

Posted by: Zombie General Pinochet at May 27, 2021 04:11 PM (jvt6t)

277 I hope the your message looks like spam filter does some good because it's inscrutable.

I would show you what it wont allow but ahem

Posted by: havelhavolim at May 27, 2021 04:11 PM (fLpTX)

278 "America is tired of the culture clash" is a direct response to Donald J. Trump. Because of course it is.

Trump fought them on every little thing because that's the only way to push them back. Literally the ONLY way.

Once you concede the tiniest sliver of ground to the Left, they run roughshod over you until toddlers are stripping and you have to suck dick to prove you're not a homophobe.

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2021 04:11 PM (uEbPt)

279
And once you pull that emotional lever, reinforced by everyone around you, its very difficult to turn away from that.

--------

I wasn't too high on Trump in '15. But he was at least "not one of them." So, when he beat Cruz once and for all in Indiana, I stifled it. And when he had, oh, about 2 months as President, I realized he was actually pretty damn cool.

They couldn't make those adjustments because he broke their rice bowl, and it's the only thing that any of them ever cared about in their entire corrupted public lives.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 27, 2021 04:12 PM (Uh2oA)

280 Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM


I know, right? What's the downside?

Posted by: 496 at May 27, 2021 04:12 PM (U1eOr)

281 hey find Trump repulsive because he's causing them to lose money and power
It's a simple as that.

For some I am certain that's the case. For others... it really does seem to come down to a "he's icky and not one of us" kneejerk reaction

No, I'm saying for Ryan and Cheney and the NeverTrumpers , Trump is awful because he's taking what's rightfully "theirs."
The noise about him being a classless pig (not true anyway) is for the consumption of the Karens and others of that type.

Joe Biden is 1000X the pig that Trump is supposed to be

Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:12 PM (HrMC1)

282 Incidentally, what's the latest with that Super Party for Special People Christie Todd Whitman is forming? The concept is a perfect fit for Paul, Liz, Mitt, and the gang. It will embody their values and they won't have to get around icky people to be able to grift.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:12 PM (puu6v)

283 266

At this point, I take comfort in my citizenship in the Kingdom of God, and I rejoice that my name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 04:08 PM (45fpk)

While I understand agree with you, I believe that what you wrote is so alien to most Americans that you might have been writing in ancient Sanskrit... and that is a major problem in a post modern world...

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (6Je/Q)

284 I can't make any sense of what Ryan is saying because he won't tell us. For that matter, I'm not even sure what "conservative" means anymore, although I definitely am one. There are so-cons, Wall-cons, law 'n order-cons, Neocons, gun-cons, constitution cons, religious orthdoxy cons, to name a few, and they don't always seem to have a lot in common. Then again maybe conservatism at its core is nothing more than a drag on liberalism. Maybe that's what it always was.

Posted by: Caliban at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (HgGBT)

285 @Breaking911 1m

JUST IN: California Governor announces $116M in prize money to encourage people to get vaccinated. The 'Vax For The Win' website says the program is "being paid for by the State"

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Must be from the proceeds from the state's widget sales....

Posted by: Tami at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (cF8AT)

286 If you've read some world history, nothing going on now or in the near future should be a surprise to you.

If it is, you've missed a few chapters here and there and should go and check up.

Absolutely NOTHING is new under the sun.

Heck, just read the Pentateuch and you've about covered most of how humans sin, how they're punished and who are the victims.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (wd9fW)

287 I like the hyperbole: If you do not vote for ME- it is the death of all that is Decent and Good in the World!

Liz, why not try the old ways? If I do not win my election, God will take me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (lmikk)

288 At this point, I take comfort in my citizenship in the Kingdom of God, and I rejoice that my name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life.
Posted by: grammie winger

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Amen!

Posted by: SMH at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (M1r8K)

289 But I don't think it means they support the screaming left.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 27, 2021 04:09 PM (+DS2f)

If they *don't* support the Left then they are too stupid to live. You don't even need eyes and ears anymore to observe the battle being waged. They're still acting like it's 2003 and there is no excuse for that unless they are traitors.

They are traitors.

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (uEbPt)

290 I wonder Liz would say the "traditional conservative values" are that she champions but that Trump does not.

I can think of one. Spending. Trump was a big spender, which is not a traditional conservative value. The problem with that one, though, is that Cheney is a big spender, too.

Other than that, Trump actually has pretty damned good marks on conservatism. Nationalism. Immigration. Foreign policy. Taxes. Military. Abortion. Education. Regulation.

What, precisely, does she think a conservative is?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (Jsjd7)

291 Must be from the proceeds from the state's widget sales....
Posted by: Tami


Shhhhh... you'll spoil the illusion.

Posted by: 496 at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (U1eOr)

292 Living in these Interesting Times, there does seem to appear to be a changing of the guard starting up in both parties - the Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer wing is being challanged by the commie wing and the GOPe wing is being challenged by a couple of promising upstarts, as well.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at May 27, 2021 04:14 PM (nWxPx)

293 The Democrats are 13 year old girls?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:07 PM (HrMC1)

Haven't you noticed?

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 27, 2021 04:14 PM (+DS2f)

294 end of the GOPe if we don't elect Cheney? Fine ... maybe we need a third party, but I think ThePeople could still take control of GOP, and exile GOPe into the sun, preferably, or into the Dem/Commie party where they belong.


When a wife finds her husband in bed with an enemy, the change in "normalcy status" can change quickly. Also possible, the wife is too dependent and just allows it, but a vast majority don't really favor the criminal cabal we have now.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 27, 2021 04:14 PM (Cus5s)

295 I believe that what you wrote is so alien to most Americans that you might have been writing in ancient Sanskrit... and that is a major problem in a post modern world...

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If only there was a book...

Posted by: SMH at May 27, 2021 04:14 PM (M1r8K)

296 I mean, what IS that? What is that visceral gut-clenching loathing that
descends upon people at the mention of Trump? To crumble on your core
principals because you don't like somebody? Heck - I hardly like
ANYbody, but I still believe what I believe. It's almost like a demonic
delusion.

I never grokked that at all. But then again, I'm getting so I don't grok a lot of the things that make up modern American "life" these days. I also don't consider that a problem.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 27, 2021 04:14 PM (HaL55)

297


What a mean spirited post!

*Wrings hands, clutches pearls*

Posted by: Generic Concern Troll at May 27, 2021 04:15 PM (2Ivdx)

298 In truth, I believe there are none. I don't think any system of governance can ever be immune to corruption, grift, or subversion; indeed, I think all such things inevitable. "Man has dominated man to his injury", in Ecclesiastes 8.

I do too. I think its a matter of time before any human institution is corrupted, no matter what. We're innately sinful, the bad is not coming from them its coming from inside us. Its why in time every Christian denomination eventually goes bad, and new ones have to be created. Its why every party goes bad.

But some systems seem more resistant to the evil than others, and while we had a more virtuous, Christian culture, we were able to resist the bad longer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:15 PM (KZzsI)

299 Hey, Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell, do you two agree with Paul Ryan? Let us know. Actually, we do know, but we want you on record.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:15 PM (puu6v)

300 JROD - I'm not disagreeing with you. Entirely possible that the Dem will steal every election from now until we are annexed as the newest province of China.

All I am saying is that the largest voting block in the country will have those three characteristics. Trump brought about a sea change in voter attitudes.

Whether or not their votes will count is a completely different issue.

And for others, I am using Antiwar as shorthand. It is general distrust for using the military for activities that are not in our national interest. That does not mean lack of support for a strong military.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 27, 2021 04:15 PM (5p7BC)

301 Every single false accusation they leveled at Trump can be applied entirely in truth to Obama, Biden, or most of the time, both.

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2021 04:15 PM (uEbPt)

302 "Paul Ryan: FOX NEWS Is Doomed Unless We Embrace Corporate Left-Libertarianism"Um. Guess what, buddy?
"Cheney: My Re-election Will be a Referendum on the Viability of the Republican Party"It is. And we'd rather keep the party viable. We don't need a Democrat light party to lose all the elections for giggles.

Posted by: squid_hunt at May 27, 2021 04:15 PM (S5OQe)

303 Every last elected Republican must be asked to denounce Paul Ryan. If they don't, destroy them.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:08 PM (puu6v)

This is a simple question that needs to be asked of every Republican. This is the Time For Choosing.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 27, 2021 04:15 PM (hKTv8)

304 What, precisely, does she think a conservative is?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (Jsjd7)

The funniest thing about Liz Cheney is Trump gave, and was prepared to continue giving her, everything she said she ever wanted.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 27, 2021 04:15 PM (+DS2f)

305 >At this point, I take comfort in my citizenship in the Kingdom of God



I'll be happy if God even takes my call

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 27, 2021 04:16 PM (iTXRQ)

306 Come on, conservatives! You can't quit on me now! We have so many countries left to bomb!

Posted by: Liz Cheney at May 27, 2021 04:16 PM (Cge5i)

307 That they find Trump "awful" or "uncouth" or pussy-grabber is beside the point--that's for the rubes anyway.

They find Trump repulsive because he's causing them to lose money and power
It's a simple as that.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:04 PM (HrMC1)

Trump is repulsive to them for one reason. Immigration. I keep saying it that if Trump were for open borders then the cucks like Kristol would have been talking about how refreshing his blunt and direct style of speaking was.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 27, 2021 04:17 PM (p2CgX)

308 I'll be happy if God even takes my call

___

He does.

You just may not like the answer when He does.

Posted by: SMH at May 27, 2021 04:17 PM (M1r8K)

309 "I really do think it's one that will be a moment where the people of Wyoming can demonstrate to the country our commitment to the Constitution." Cheney believes the race will be "very important in terms of the future of the party and the future of our republic."

I agree, Ms Cheney. But not the way you mean it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:17 PM (KZzsI)

310
JUST IN: California Governor announces $116M in prize money to encourage people to get vaccinated. The 'Vax For The Win' website says the program is "being paid for by the State"

==

can I get a sweepstakes ticket for that even though I'm not in CA and not getting a shot?
isnt there some kinda sweepstakes law that says anyone can join, no purchase necessary?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 27, 2021 04:17 PM (IMQiW)

311 233 CRT, Far too many people swoon when they hear sweet words but with perhaps the rare exception of Churchill, fine words do not mean that they are a fighter nor particularly admirable as a politician.

Actions speak louder than words. Ideally, like with Churchill in his prime, you get both. Sasse and Ryan failed at both regardless of whatever words that they said or whatever admirable sentiments they expressed.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2021 04:17 PM (pO7gM)

312 >If only there was a book...


It was a dark and stormy night. Then God flipped the lights on...

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 27, 2021 04:18 PM (iTXRQ)

313 As for being "tired" of the culture wars, this guy needs to learn how to read a thermometer. Conservative-minded people aren't tired of them at all. They are just (sick and) tired of being shamed. Those are very different things.

Posted by: Caliban at May 27, 2021 04:18 PM (HgGBT)

314 California Governor announces $116M in prize money to encourage people to get vaccinated.
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Canary in the coal mine. People have found a way that they can resist.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 27, 2021 04:18 PM (5p7BC)

315 Trump had about 95% Republican support in 2020. Ryan and Cheney can take the remaining 5% and fuck right off.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 27, 2021 04:18 PM (kTF2Z)

316 @DailyCaller 3m

REPORT: Matt Gaetz Says He Would Run In 2024 Unless Trump Does

https://tinyurl.com/yjl8bcj2

Posted by: Tami at May 27, 2021 04:18 PM (cF8AT)

317 Today would have been Levon Helm's 81st birthday. Loved him.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:18 PM (cSyAR)

318 Post Moderns want a Fuzzy Bunny God.... or maybe just a bigger version of themselvs...

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:18 PM (6Je/Q)

319 He does.

You just may not like the answer when He does.
Posted by: SMH at May 27, 2021 04:17 PM (M1r8K)

I think most folks operate with God the way the did with their parents when they were teens: If Dad says no, I will pitch a fit until he says yes.

God says no for a reason, and you might not understand it, but that is what He means. Really. No. Now get over it.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 27, 2021 04:18 PM (EHSip)

320 Pronouns usage is NOT a huge problem.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (+DS2f)

Pronoun usage is not a huge problem until you can be fired for using the wrong one. And we reached that like a year ago. What follows is far uglier and it could have been stopped in the cradle.

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2021 04:19 PM (uEbPt)

321 While I understand agree with you, I believe that what you wrote is so alien to most Americans that you might have been writing in ancient Sanskrit... and that is a major problem in a post modern world...

Its worse than that. An increasing number of people view Christianity not as puzzling or odd but evil and hateful. They think Christians want to KILL homosexuals, that we are actively cruel and vicious and are cross-burning lunatics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:19 PM (KZzsI)

322 That is it I am leaving the republican party! No, wait... I didn't leave the republican party, the republican party left me! Whatever.... fuck em. Let it all burn.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 27, 2021 04:20 PM (V7LOe)

323 @300 Dave in Fla-I know what your saying and I'm not trying to be a doomer, I'm just going off what I seen. I believe for the most part you are right. In a legitimate election another Trump type would mop the floor. I believe we have the numbers.

I understand what you are saying about the military, I believe the same.

Posted by: JROD at May 27, 2021 04:20 PM (0jZnq)

324 Breaking: Joe Scarborough has announced if Cheney loses he is leaving the GOP for the 19th time.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 04:20 PM (xSsm7)

325 321 While I understand agree with you, I believe that what you wrote is so alien to most Americans that you might have been writing in ancient Sanskrit... and that is a major problem in a post modern world...

Its worse than that. An increasing number of people view Christianity not as puzzling or odd but evil and hateful. They think Christians want to KILL homosexuals, that we are actively cruel and vicious and are cross-burning lunatics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:19 PM (KZzsI)

Yeah. I do not think they have read Matthew 5-7...

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:20 PM (6Je/Q)

326 "Liz Cheney basically says that if people vote her out of office, that's the death of the GOP."

Please please please please please.

That's the only way I will ever vote again, except as a spoiler.

Posted by: West at May 27, 2021 04:20 PM (QY+6a)

327 The GOPe like Ryan and Liz and others are acting like the boyfriend who finally got tossed for being a bullshitter, fucking other girls behind their back, being a lousy lay, and most importantly not taking care of their needs. Trump is the guy who came along and replaced him by being exactly the opposite.

Now they realize their mistake and they're grasping and trying to claw their way back.

But they don't realize it's too late.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:21 PM (HrMC1)

328 @263 whig-Thanks for the food for thought. I appreciate the perspective. : )

Posted by: JROD at May 27, 2021 04:21 PM (0jZnq)

329 In RE: to the sidebar from Joe Mannix

Cocaine, my friend. Lots and lots of cocaine.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:22 PM (jvt6t)

330 324 Breaking: Joe Scarborough has announced if Cheney loses he is leaving the GOP for the 19th time.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 04:20 PM (xSsm7)

19th time this week.

Again, I want to hear McConnell and McCarthy give their takes on Ryan's secret speech (know who else gives secret speeches?).

And I do invite the five percent to join Christie Todd Whitman's Super Party.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:22 PM (puu6v)

331 Do Democrats stand up for WalMart? No! This little upstart company, with only $138 BILLION in PROFIT last year needs someone to stand up for them! Vote for me! I'll fight for WalMart!

Posted by: Liz Cheney at May 27, 2021 04:23 PM (Cge5i)

332 Ryan will also ask conservatives to resist fighting every cultural battle picked by the left, suggesting that ordinary Americans are growing tired of the culture clash

Pretty funny coming from a member of the "conservative" "elite" who haven't managed to win one cultural battle since before Nixon.

I take heart from the example of Star Wars fans, who were determined to fight back against the desecration of their cultural heritage. Nobody organized them, they had no party, but they fought Disney and Disney's bootlickers every chance they got. They went looking for opportunities to fight; it didn't matter how small the incident, they relished it as a chance to raise a bruise or wring a drop of blood out of the enemy. It was fun, and they're still doing it whenever they can.

That's the way we should fight. Not with listless sighs about how the enemy has all the advantages, and we'll never have a chance. Just fighting because we like to hurt them because they deserve to be hurt, and we'll never get tired of hurting them.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 27, 2021 04:23 PM (OHBkE)

333 What, precisely, does she think a conservative is?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (Jsjd7)

conservatism = corporatism

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 27, 2021 04:23 PM (IMQiW)

334 272 kraken,
Crony capitalism is a species of fascism as is the current China govt which has the veneer of communism if not the practice thereof.

In part, and people do not mention this enough, Chavez in Venezuela took office because people had enough of the bi partisan corrupt corporate cronyism. You could say the same for the fall of Batista or the Shah, etc.

You have to make life good for the little people, not just your cronies and corporate and foreign interests will always try to sway you from a path. That is why for all of Mussolini's strutting, the Italian state was brittle and hollow.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2021 04:23 PM (pO7gM)

335 330 324 Breaking: Joe Scarborough has announced if Cheney loses he is leaving the GOP for the 19th time.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 04:20 PM (xSsm7)

But first, he has some bitches to kill in his office.......

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:23 PM (jvt6t)

336 Joe Biden is 1000X the pig that Trump is supposed to be

Sure, but here's the thing: he's a comfortable pig, he's a familiar one who says all the right things and keeps his sty under wraps, not out in public.

Its like the mob and John Gotti. Gotti refused to hide, he refused to cower, and he refused to cover up his actions. All the mob bosses were corrupt nasty scum criminals. All of them were hypocrites and sleazy. But Gotti didn't play the game, he didn't sneak around with other men's wives, he was on the street laughing at cops instead of acting like a businessman. He didn't hide his face when he got busted, he sneered at the reporters and police.

They tried to whack him because he wasn't like them and did it all wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:23 PM (KZzsI)

337 The Evil Party vs. the Stupid Party has been my go-to template for years.

But these days, the Dracula Party vs. the Renfield Party makes more sense.

Full on evil in one corner, and its enthralled toady in the other.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 27, 2021 04:24 PM (I+zD5)

338 I listen to Ryan and Cheney the day they simultaneously kiss my big hairy butt.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 27, 2021 04:24 PM (r+sAi)

339 I'd like Ryan or any of the rino's to explain to America how they can justify not supporting Trump on Trump's and Pompeo's foreign policy alone. My God, no one would have even considered the Abraham Accords during Obama's presidency. North Korea? Keeping China in line?

Pompeo was arguable the best SoS ever. Just my opinion.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:25 PM (o25GB)

340 Absolutely NOTHING is new under the sun.

Heck, just read the Pentateuch and you've about covered most of how humans sin, how they're punished and who are the victims.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 27, 2021 04:13 PM (wd9fW)

I worked briefly with a millenial twit who claimed that the internet was going to change human behavior because nobody could hide from their narrow-minded racist behavior and the world would call them out on it. Huh. I told him to read some Suetonius. He had no idea what I was talking about; thus proving my point. Nothing, whatsoever, had changed about HIS behavior as an idiot kid, and there is no way he couldn't see that.

Why on earth do kids, with no experience, no knowledge, and no common sense, think they are the smartest, most accomplished people on earth?

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 27, 2021 04:25 PM (EHSip)

341 Yeah, Paul, who is this "we" you speak of?

We already know you're all about you and yours, because you had a chance to actually make a difference and you folded like the cheap grifter you are.

There is no "we" Paul. There is us, ordinary Americans, someone you despise, and you, the backstabbing sellout who got rich selling out Americans.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 27, 2021 04:25 PM (2SdPm)

342 Joe Biden is 1000X the pig that Trump is supposed to be

But he's that kindly grampa everyone wants.

-Said while projectile vomiting

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:25 PM (cSyAR)

343 Now they realize their mistake and they're grasping and trying to claw their way back.

But they don't realize it's too late.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:21 PM (HrMC1)
------------------------------------

Once a relationship goes cold like that

It's gone forever.
not a ripple on the water

Posted by: Braenyard at May 27, 2021 04:25 PM (hPGuH)

344
You have to make life good for the little people, not just your cronies and corporate and foreign interests will always try to sway you from a path. That is why for all of Mussolini's strutting, the Italian state was brittle and hollow.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2021 04:23 PM (pO7gM)

IIRC a lot of mob guys and machine pols understood this: you can get your beak wet as long as the work gets done. Most people aren't going to care as long as crime is low and the garbage gets collected.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 27, 2021 04:26 PM (jOcSX)

345 suggesting that ordinary Americans are growing tired of the culture clash

We are. But we're not tired of fighting against evil we're tired of evil winning or being allowed to do most of what it wants in exchange for the rest at a later date by the very people who are pledged to stop it.

People are sick of waking up every morning wondering what crazy horror is being proposed next. People are tired of seeing one sick perversion after another being forced by people trying to normalize sickness.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:26 PM (KZzsI)

346 Trump bought into GOPe talking points with the tax cut. He threw the little people a couple of bones but the majority of the benefits went to the people who pay Ryan.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 04:26 PM (xSsm7)

347 338 I listen to Ryan and Cheney the day they simultaneously kiss my big hairy butt.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 27, 2021 04:24 PM (r+sAi)

I would pay money to see that.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 27, 2021 04:26 PM (EHSip)

348 I worked briefly with a millenial twit who claimed that the internet was going to change human behavior because nobody could hide from their narrow-minded racist behavior and the world would call them out on it. Huh. I told him to read some Suetonius. He had no idea what I was talking about; thus proving my point. Nothing, whatsoever, had changed about HIS behavior as an idiot kid, and there is no way he couldn't see that.

Why on earth do kids, with no experience, no knowledge, and no common sense, think they are the smartest, most accomplished people on earth?
Posted by: tcn


Why does he think I want to hide from it?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 27, 2021 04:27 PM (OCTRt)

349 342 Joe Biden is 1000X the pig that Trump is supposed to be

But he's that kindly grampa everyone wants.

-Said while projectile vomiting
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:25 PM (cSyAR)

Uh, he's really the "pull my finger" grandpa that nobody wants to invite to Thanksgiving.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 27, 2021 04:27 PM (EHSip)

350 334 272 kraken,
Crony capitalism is a species of fascism as is the current China govt which has the veneer of communism if not the practice thereof.

In part, and people do not mention this enough, Chavez in Venezuela took office because people had enough of the bi partisan corrupt corporate cronyism. You could say the same for the fall of Batista or the Shah, etc.

You have to make life good for the little people, not just your cronies and corporate and foreign interests will always try to sway you from a path. That is why for all of Mussolini's strutting, the Italian state was brittle and hollow.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2021 04:23 PM (pO7gM)

Thanks for the response, whig. I guess where I am at currently is viewing the Antifa/ BLM stormtroopers as being tools of fascism, or the crony capiralists, as you pointed out. I imagine that irony is lost on them. ( I always appreciate your insights, BTW)..

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:28 PM (6Je/Q)

351 Crony Capitalism is called "Corporatism." Amity Schlaes and Ayn Rand wrote about it. One non-fiction, the other fiction.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 27, 2021 04:28 PM (xopIz)

352 I listen to Ryan and Cheney the day they simultaneously kiss my big hairy butt.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 27, 2021 04:24 PM (r+sAi)

Do you promise to rip an earth shattering fart at that exact moment?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:28 PM (cSyAR)

353 The best interpretation is that Ryan wants to go back to the Country Club Republican model. The worst is that he's a corrupt Vichy collaborator licking the boots of people who would gleefully destroy him if he wasn't so useful to their agenda.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 27, 2021 04:28 PM (HmZuC)

354 Why on earth do kids, with no experience, no knowledge, and no common sense, think they are the smartest, most accomplished people on earth?

Because helicopter parents and leftist teachers have been telling them they are every second of their lives. Every entertainment option, every TV show, every advertisement, EVERYTHING has been pushing this line for their entire lives.

What else could they possibly think? Its all they know.

You know what happens to someone brought up to think they are a magical special snowflake who knows the truth and will transform the world into a paradise, but deep down knows they are scared, ignorant, and confused and far from perfect or special?

A rapidly increasing suicide rate and slouching off into horrors like sex changes so they can match their inside to what they've been told their whole existence is their outside.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:28 PM (KZzsI)

355 Uh, he's really the "pull my finger" grandpa that nobody wants to invite to Thanksgiving.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 27, 2021 04:27 PM (EHSip)

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I think he's the creepy uncle everyone tells their children to never be alone with.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:28 PM (o25GB)

356 If the GOP spent 1/10th of the time fighting the Left that they do fighting us, we would live in an infinitely better place.

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2021 04:29 PM (uEbPt)

357 Ryan is just another bought patron of the Chicoms. That is where most of our problems are originating now. I know many leftist strategies started a long time ago, and the financial support of Soros and his ilk are prominent, but the chicoms are controlling this nightmare.

Red China is running our government and elections now.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 27, 2021 04:29 PM (Fs5vw)

358 Do you promise to rip an earth shattering fart at that exact moment?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:28 PM (cSyAR)

I have it on good authority that tomorrow heralds the return of Fart Noise Friday. Get to it, gentlemen.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 27, 2021 04:29 PM (EHSip)

359 Uh, he's really the "pull my finger" grandpa that nobody wants to invite to Thanksgiving.

He's the creepy uncle that keeps trying to look down your top and "hugs" you the wrong way. He's the one that keeps offering to put suntan lotion on you and sneaks around at the camp site hoping to see you changing in your tent. The one that nobody in the family leaves alone with the kids.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:30 PM (KZzsI)

360 343 Now they realize their mistake and they're grasping and trying to claw their way back.

But they don't realize it's too late.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:21 PM (HrMC1)
------------------------------------

Once a relationship goes cold like that

It's gone forever.
not a ripple on the water
Posted by: Braenyard at May 27, 2021 04:25 PM (hPGuH)

I have been forced at times to deal with grifters and con men, and that is all the controlled opposition/GOPe is and ever was. They simply cannot believe it when they are found out. Maybe it is sociopathology, I dunno, but they simply cannot grok they are found out and done. Think Ted Bundy trying to get out of his execution at the 11th hour. That is filth like Paul Ryan and Liz Cheney.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:30 PM (puu6v)

361 My favorite memory of Rep. Eddie Munster was when he became Speaker of the House and set about creating a budget, instead of using continuing resolutions -- whereupon Obama pantsed him.

Posted by: Marooned at May 27, 2021 04:30 PM (5TnwH)

362 Chicago's new pursuit policy:

"Foot pursuits can no longer be initiated for criminal offenses less than a Class A misdemeanor, according to the new policy."

https://bit.ly/3vvG1g2

So if you're a felon with warrants, a gun on you, drugs on you, and you get pulled over for a traffic offense, just jog away. They can't pursue.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 27, 2021 04:30 PM (YYlyE)

363 NO sleepovers at Uncle Joe's, kids!

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:30 PM (6Je/Q)

364 Rodney King for President !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: James at May 27, 2021 04:30 PM (yVV7Q)

365 High fives Christopher R Taylor.

simpatico

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:30 PM (o25GB)

366
"Conservatism" is giving the Democrats only 90% of what they want.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at May 27, 2021 04:31 PM (87M+Q)

367 I have it on good authority that tomorrow heralds the return of Fart Noise Friday. Get to it, gentlemen.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 27, 2021 04:29 PM (EHSip)

I say this with genuine love but my late wife farted more often and louder than I ever have.
Miss her.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:31 PM (cSyAR)

368 Ryan was worthless as the SOTH. ......... A Balless wonder.

Posted by: James at May 27, 2021 04:31 PM (yVV7Q)

369 Projection
Cognitive Dissonance
No Self Awareness
Narcissistic

Liz Cheney is a liberal in denial.

Posted by: Just a side note at May 27, 2021 04:31 PM (2DOZq)

370 Paul Ryan has been a profile in courage.

Posted by: John Cena at May 27, 2021 04:31 PM (vN+oL)

371 They simply cannot believe it when they are found out. Maybe it is sociopathology, I dunno

Part of the reason is because you never give up the con. Ever. If you keep up the con, no matter how patently ridiculous, most people will start to question themselves: well he's so confident, maybe I was mistaken?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:31 PM (KZzsI)

372 I love my neighbors to the north, but WY doesn't have enough people to form a quorum on anything in this vast land, Lizard.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 27, 2021 04:32 PM (Bmy3R)

373 P.S. Why does, "Ace of Spades," keep giving relevance to Paul Ryan?

Posted by: Marooned at May 27, 2021 04:32 PM (5TnwH)

374 Orwell disavowed the objectively pro-Nazi argument.

https://tinyurl.com/dzy6k2v5

Better not to use it.
Posted by: Eeyore

Why, because he later lost his spine? Usually the first statement is the truest. The walk back is just trying to get along.

Posted by: Loki, looking to water the Tree of Liberty at May 27, 2021 04:32 PM (EkW1x)

375 Who the hell listens to this gal Pauline anyway?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 27, 2021 04:32 PM (ufFY8)

376 362

Good. Let Chicago voters rejoice as crime increases even more.

I give zero fucks. Let them defund the entire police dept for all I care.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 04:32 PM (xSsm7)

377 Liz Cheney is a liberal in denial.

Posted by: Just a side note at May 27, 2021 04:31 PM (2DOZq)

Is she in denial or is she, as Freud might say, a disingenuous sack of shit? I know where I'm casting my vote.

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2021 04:32 PM (uEbPt)

378 Trump was the first time the Left had faced any actual opposition since 1932. It terrified them. They control everything but always are on thin ice. They need a controlled opposition, or their playhouse might get toppled.

Again, let's get hot takes from Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell about Paul Ryan's Sovietesque "secret speech," no doubt delivered to the Koch brothers.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:33 PM (puu6v)

379 361 My favorite memory of Rep. Eddie Munster was when he became Speaker of the House and set about creating a budget, instead of using continuing resolutions -- whereupon Obama pantsed him.
Posted by: Marooned at May 27, 2021 04:30 PM (5TnwH)


What do you mean? Ryan's budget was a major victory for us. Just ask Miss80sBaby and chemjeff!

Posted by: Buzzion at May 27, 2021 04:33 PM (p2CgX)

380 You know what is awesome about Biden's state department?

They tackle really important issues. They put BLM signs on the entrances to OUR embassies.

They're like Churchill only better.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:33 PM (o25GB)

381 God says no for a reason, and you might not understand it, but that is what He means. Really. No. Now get over it.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at May 27, 2021 04:18 PM (EHSip)

...Thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven...

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 27, 2021 04:33 PM (z79tQ)

382 Orwell disavowed the objectively pro-Nazi argument.

https://tinyurl.com/dzy6k2v5

Better not to use it.
Posted by: Eeyore

Why, because he later lost his spine? Usually the first statement is the truest. The walk back is just trying to get along.
Posted by: Loki


*fistbump

Posted by: rickb223 at May 27, 2021 04:33 PM (OCTRt)

383 Kevin McCarthy is so slimy and smarmy.

The fakeness about him is palpable.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:34 PM (o25GB)

384 Martin Luther put it best, I think, when he said he'd rather be ruled by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian.

His point was this: it doesn't matter what they say or their allegiance, it matters how well they do the job and what they accomplish.

Sleazy, over the top ridiculous Trump who DOES good and DOES right is better than oozing sleazy smooth talking idiot who does horrors.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:34 PM (KZzsI)

385 P.S. Why does, "Ace of Spades," keep giving relevance to Paul Ryan?
Posted by: Marooned


Because Ace feels like it.

You have a fucking problem with that?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 27, 2021 04:34 PM (nI1Kq)

386 383 Kevin McCarthy is so slimy and smarmy.

The fakeness about him is palpable.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:34 PM (o25GB)


Reverse Mortgages Guy...

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:34 PM (6Je/Q)

387 Its worse than that. An increasing number of people view Christianity
not as puzzling or odd but evil and hateful. They think Christians want
to KILL homosexuals, that we are actively cruel and vicious and are
cross-burning lunatics.

That's exactly what PROGDA wants everyone to think. That's why they always held up those rabid lunatic Westboro Baptists as representative of Christianity, to cement that in the minds of the stoopid who watch them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 27, 2021 04:35 PM (HaL55)

388 no doubt delivered to the Koch brothers.

Brother..One died

Posted by: It's me donna at May 27, 2021 04:35 PM (Zmnko)

389 You just committed a triple homicide and the cops pull you over for a burned out taillight or expired tags or your headlights were off? Don't sweat, just jog away. By the time they figure out why you're covered in blood, you're long gone.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 27, 2021 04:35 PM (YYlyE)

390 386 383 Kevin McCarthy is so slimy

The fakeness about him is palpable.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:34 PM (o25GB)

Luntz snuck into my room last night.

Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at May 27, 2021 04:36 PM (jvt6t)

391 The conservative case for secret speeches where conservatives are shat upon.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 04:36 PM (xSsm7)

392 Sleazy, over the top ridiculous Trump who DOES good and DOES right is better than oozing sleazy smooth talking idiot who does horrors.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:34 PM (KZzsI)

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Exactly.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:36 PM (o25GB)

393 384 Martin Luther put it best, I think, when he said he'd rather be ruled by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian.

His point was this: it doesn't matter what they say or their allegiance, it matters how well they do the job and what they accomplish.

Sleazy, over the top ridiculous Trump who DOES good and DOES right is better than oozing sleazy smooth talking idiot who does horrors.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:34 PM (KZzsI)


Watch what people do, rather than focus on what they say..... by their fruits you really CAN know them....

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:36 PM (6Je/Q)

394 That's exactly what PROGDA wants everyone to think. That's why they always held up those rabid lunatic Westboro Baptists as representative of Christianity, to cement that in the minds of the stoopid who watch them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 27, 2021 04:35 PM (HaL55)

And that's why they never mentioned that far from being any sort of "church", they are actually a group of Democrat lawyers.

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2021 04:36 PM (uEbPt)

395 373 P.S. Why does, "Ace of Spades," keep giving relevance to Paul Ryan?
Posted by: Marooned at May 27, 2021 04:32 PM (5TnwH)


You know you're more than welcome to start your own blog and put out as much content every day as ace does and prove him wrong in his choice of what he posts.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 27, 2021 04:36 PM (p2CgX)

396 Just finally finished reading the entire post.

Righteous rant -- well said, Ace.

Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2021 04:36 PM (qGehY)

397 On the power of this, I just changed my voter registration to Democrat.

GOP delenda est.

Posted by: West at May 27, 2021 04:37 PM (QY+6a)

398 Luntz snuck into my room last night.
Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at May 27, 2021 04:36 PM (jvt6t)

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Can you believe his duplicity is out in the open and no one cares. How is he still in a position of "leadership?"

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:37 PM (o25GB)

399 Its worse than that. An increasing number of people view Christianity
not as puzzling or odd but evil and hateful. They think Christians want
to KILL homosexuals, that we are actively cruel and vicious and are
cross-burning lunatics.
That's exactly what PROGDA wants everyone to think. That's why they always held up those rabid lunatic Westboro Baptists as representative of Christianity, to cement that in the minds of the stoopid who watch them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, rea

Making the choice to follow Christ might reduce the number of people identifying as Christian may reduce the total number of Christian but those who do choose will be strong.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:37 PM (cSyAR)

400 Why does, "Ace of Spades," keep giving relevance to Paul Ryan?

Well in principle I tend to agree. Posts here about people who would just wither away if ignored are ones I would prefer to avoid or just not see. But as the man says, this is his house and Ace can post whatever he wants.

And for me, this is a launching pad to discuss something that matters so dearly to me: the need for our nation to repent and turn away from its path. Our need to embrace the Truth and turn to God. We need to hit our knees and pray for God's mercy, and change as a people. This corrupt and horrible culture is so wracked and shot through with sin that no punishment seems too great for us to face.

We must change our ways, no matter what it costs us, for it will cost us all far more in the future, and future generations to fail in this task.

Its not liberty or the constitution that can save our nation. Its God alone.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:38 PM (KZzsI)

401 383 Kevin McCarthy is so slimy and smarmy.

The fakeness about him is palpable.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:34 PM (o25GB)

Imagine you are a LIV and see that greasy smile and smarmy, piss poor sales pitch.

Again, the Republicans likely will narrowly flip the House if the election is not fraudulent again. If it were led by substantive people, and this includes the Senate (and again assumes a free and fair election), it would be such a realignment the Left would be exiled. But, no, they will have a few seats in the majority if the election is fair, and will act like it was providence and attribute it all to the political brilliance of Karl Rove and Paul Ryan.

America basically is dead. If the GOP had fought even a little, it would not be.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:38 PM (puu6v)

402 395 373 P.S. Why does, "Ace of Spades," keep giving relevance to Paul Ryan?

Posted by: Marooned at May 27, 2021 04:32 PM (5TnwH)

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Kill your enemies quick ... but kill your traitors quicker.

Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2021 04:38 PM (qGehY)

403
Nothing sums up the GOP better than the fact that the top House Republican is roomies with Frank Luntz. That really says it all.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 27, 2021 04:38 PM (Uh2oA)

404 I am evil Southern Baptist.... if a visiting sceptic came to my church they would be astounded at how well they would be treated....

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:38 PM (6Je/Q)

405 Just because a million people call a dog a cat doesn't make the dog a cat.



Posted by: Just a side note at May 27, 2021 04:39 PM (2DOZq)

406 384 Martin Luther put it best, I think, when he said he'd rather be ruled by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian.

His point was this: it doesn't matter what they say or their allegiance, it matters how well they do the job and what they accomplish.

Sleazy, over the top ridiculous Trump who DOES good and DOES right is better than oozing sleazy smooth talking idiot who does horrors.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:34 PM (KZzsI)


An ounce of common sense and an ounce of experience combined is worth more than a metric crap-ton of Ivy League BA degrees and law degrees.

Posted by: Gref at May 27, 2021 04:39 PM (AMIL/)

407 Making the choice to follow Christ might reduce the number of people identifying as Christian may reduce the total number of Christian but those who do choose will be strong.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:37 PM (cSyAR)
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The more I am pushed to hide my Christian beliefs, the more I proclaim them.

But, I've long been contrary that way and, well, pardon my language, I no longer give a shit if anyone has a problem with my being a Christian.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 27, 2021 04:39 PM (2SdPm)

408 Even if we take the House, Cheney loses, etc. we will still have Ryan II in McCarthy. I wish his constituents would dump that asshole.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:39 PM (jvt6t)

409 And that's why they never mentioned that far from being any sort of "church", they are actually a group of Democrat lawyers.
Yup. I akshully looked up the word "kayfabe." What a wonderful way to describe all the fake images and real bullshit that's being foisted on us. And by "wonderful" I mean "You have to fucking be kidding me! Nobody with two functioning brain cells to rub together believes you."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 27, 2021 04:40 PM (HaL55)

410 My ideal church is one where I'm not bothered by anyone except to be given a bulletin and a smile, where great hymns are sun, where the gospel is preached, where the pastor makes me feel uncomfortable and repentant while hopeful and joyful, and where I can leave without being pestered. I just want to be left alone.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:40 PM (KZzsI)

411 403
Nothing sums up the GOP better than the fact that the top House Republican is roomies with Frank Luntz. That really says it all.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 27, 2021 04:38 PM (Uh2oA)

Agreed. You could not make that shit up. The Left certainly isn't going to push McCarthy out of leadership via their propaganda organs over it. They have a solid reason to keep him there.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:40 PM (puu6v)

412 382 Orwell disavowed the objectively pro-Nazi argument.
https://tinyurl.com/dzy6k2v5
Better not to use it.
Posted by: Eeyore
Why, because he later lost his spine? Usually the first statement is the truest. The walk back is just trying to get along.
Posted by: Loki

*fistbump
Posted by: rickb223 at May 27, 2021 04:33 PM (OCTRt)

Translation: that argument is effective, you can't use it because you are a Nazi- even though you are making an argument about fighting actual Nazis.

Also, I am getting really fucking tired about people telling me how to fucking speak, think and argue.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2021 04:41 PM (lmikk)

413 Why do liberal Democrats never seem to have these "epiphanies" in their camps but our side constantly seems to breed traitors?

Why do they never have to worry about a Nancy Pelosi suddenly getting more conservative as time goes on?

Posted by: Blago at May 27, 2021 04:41 PM (YN+Mc)

414 As my minister said " when the oppression of the church comes to America, I guess we can share a jail cell, because I won't stop preaching"...

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:41 PM (6Je/Q)

415 am evil Southern Baptist.... if a visiting sceptic came to my church they would be astounded at how well they would be treated....
Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:38 PM (6Je/Q)

I think many on the Left were red pilled for exactly this reason. See latest example Naomi Wolf.

Posted by: Just a side note at May 27, 2021 04:41 PM (2DOZq)

416 Why do liberal Democrats never seem to have these "epiphanies" in their camps but our side constantly seems to breed traitors?

Why do they never have to worry about a Nancy Pelosi suddenly getting more conservative as time goes on?

Posted by: Blago at May 27, 2021 04:41 PM (YN+Mc)

Mind-blowing when you consider the well known fact that people become more conservative as they age.

But leftism pays better.

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2021 04:42 PM (uEbPt)

417 332 Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 27, 2021 04:23 PM (OHBkE)

Jerry Glanville's defensive philosophy was "there's always room for one more helmet in a dogpile."

If every conservative landed a blow every time the weak donks would shut the fuck up eventually.

Posted by: sven at May 27, 2021 04:42 PM (Lzpvj)

418 I have read a good dozen articles and bits by leftists who are baffled and amazed at how inclusive, friendly, and neighborly those horrible bigots are in flyover country and at churches. I am certain that if I walked into any synagogue in the country folks would be friendly and welcoming.

Its the left that's mean spirited, bigoted, exclusive, racist, and sexist. They show it every single day.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:43 PM (KZzsI)

419 Paul Ryan Johnson is right!

Posted by: George Will Johnson at May 27, 2021 04:44 PM (63Dwl)

420 409 Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 27, 2021 04:40 PM (HaL55)

Kayfabe is the perfect analogy, the political class works the audience and pretends that they are doing ANYTHING other than firesale dismantling US power.

Posted by: sven at May 27, 2021 04:44 PM (Lzpvj)

421 I think political parties are downstream from political power.

Even Lincoln did not have the power to do anything about slavery until the South tried to blow up the country. He then had power to fight since there was political power to keep the union together.


In this country there are plenty of voters who want conservative things, but that is just votes, and votes are redundant. The *power* is in the Big Tech execs on your side, and so both our two main parties have fallen in line.

We have to accept that both parties have moved on to where the power is, and we need to figure out how to turn popular will and votes into power again.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 27, 2021 04:44 PM (FPs7w)

422 Same with scotus. Leftists never have to worry about a judge growing into a right winger. For us, every nomination is a roll of the dice

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 04:44 PM (xSsm7)

423 414 As my minister said " when the oppression of the church comes to America, I guess we can share a jail cell, because I won't stop preaching"...
Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:41 PM (6Je/Q)

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I'm going to assume your minister continued to serve in his church during COVID.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:45 PM (o25GB)

424 419 Paul Ryan Johnson is right!
Posted by: George Will Johnson at May 27, 2021 04:44 PM (63Dwl)

Authentic Frontier Gibberish!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:45 PM (jvt6t)

425 All Republicans would have to do to satisfy the rank and file, modern conservative voter would basically just take positions Democrats were 15 years ago.

Its really not that hard, pretend to care about border security, not support little boys getting their dicks cut off with taxpayer dollars and promise not to confiscate guns. But even that seems a stretch for the Paul Ryan types, his wife might get a stink eye at their next dinner party.

Posted by: Blago at May 27, 2021 04:45 PM (YN+Mc)

426 Can you believe his duplicity is out in the open and no one cares. How is he still in a position of "leadership?"

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:37 PM (o25GB)

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As many including me have been saying since the Clintons first stained the White House: virtually any of these asshoes (with the notable exception of Trump and other actual conservatives, of course) could be broadcast live on national TV killing a young girl and diddling a young boy ... and nothing would happen to them.

Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2021 04:45 PM (qGehY)

427 423 414 As my minister said " when the oppression of the church comes to America, I guess we can share a jail cell, because I won't stop preaching"...
Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:41 PM (6Je/Q)

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I'm going to assume your minister continued to serve in his church during COVID.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:45 PM (o25GB)

Absolutely. We never shut down...

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:46 PM (6Je/Q)

428
Paul Ryan Johnson is right!
Posted by: George Will Johnson at May 27, 2021 04:44 PM (63Dwl)

George Will Johnson's right about Paul Ryan Johnson's bein' right!

Posted by: Lyndon Baines Johnson at May 27, 2021 04:46 PM (Uh2oA)

429
But they don't realize it's too late.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 27, 2021 04:21 PM (HrMC1)

So we dug our keys into the side
of thier pretty little souped up grifter hyde

Posted by: Russkilitlover at May 27, 2021 04:46 PM (nWxPx)

430 Its the left that's mean spirited, bigoted, exclusive, racist, and sexist. They show it every single day.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


They think they are better. In fact, that is their singular idea - that they are more moral, informed, and intelligent than all others including all who came before. They are the pinnacle of human enlightenment, and so conservatives must be troglodytes.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 27, 2021 04:47 PM (FPs7w)

431 Before we're nooded, I want to repeat a great story that RC Sproul tells in his incredible Holiness of God series.

He went to a Pro/Am golf tournament on invite by Billy Graham one time. He was paired with a pro golfer whose name is unmentioned, and they played their game. Sproul is a pretty good golfer, but no pro, so they did fairly well.

So when they got back to the club house, someone asked the pro how it went, and the guy swore and groused and said "that Sproul guy kept trying to ram his Jesus down my throat the whole way!!!" He went on like that for a while until he cooled down and finally admitted that the topic actually never came up. He'd just shot a lousy game and felt bad, so he was using it as an excuse.

Sproul pointed out that while he wasn't acting especially religious or like the theologian he was, the very knowledge that he was a Man of God weighed heavily on that golfer's mind and he was uncomfortable as a result.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:47 PM (KZzsI)

432 One bright spot: Liz Cheney has made an atrocious ass out of herself in her very public flame-out. I invite Paul Ryan and his bitch Kevin McCarthy to join her in the festivities.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:48 PM (puu6v)

433 What planet do those clueless WHINOs live on?

Posted by: Dr Wang at May 27, 2021 04:49 PM (GduF4)

434 Absolutely. We never shut down...
Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:46 PM (6Je/Q)

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Excellent.

The only priest I knew who maintained his sanity was Fr. Altman in Wisconsin. No masks, no shutdown, still gave Communion by hand to the tongue. He was also very vocal during the election about not voting for pro-abortion democrats.

Last week his Bishop asked him to resign.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:49 PM (o25GB)

435 425 All Republicans would have to do to satisfy the rank and file, modern conservative voter would basically just take positions Democrats were 15 years ago.

Its really not that hard, pretend to care about border security, not support little boys getting their dicks cut off with taxpayer dollars and promise not to confiscate guns. But even that seems a stretch for the Paul Ryan types, his wife might get a stink eye at their next dinner party.

Posted by: Blago at May 27, 2021 04:45 PM (YN+Mc)

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Many forget or are still unaware that when the light-bringing, dog-eating magic negro magically first ascended to the White House -- he was opposed to same-sex marriage.

Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2021 04:49 PM (qGehY)

436 Liz Cheney basically says that if people vote her out of office, that's the death of the GOP.

Thank you for telling us we're on the right path.

Posted by: t-bird at May 27, 2021 04:49 PM (Ypqc1)

437 They are the pinnacle of human enlightenment, and so conservatives must be troglodytes.

And by corollary, since they are personally, and are surrounded by sleazy perverted sexually predatory scum, then conservatives must be even worse so. "ALL Men are rapists, see, all my left wing male colleagues are, so all must be! But worse, since they aren't left wing."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:49 PM (KZzsI)

438 The MAGA agenda is like some wide open giant barn door and just past the threshold it's full of winning and these perpetual losers walk right past it to the shithouse and read the latest copy of their peer approved "Pathway to Victory."

Posted by: Fool Otto at May 27, 2021 04:49 PM (DB16e)

439 I have read a good dozen articles and bits by leftists who are baffled and amazed at how inclusive, friendly, and neighborly those horrible bigots are in flyover country and at churches.

Baffled and threatened. How can I demean my neighbors for clearing my driveway of snow?

They are more caveman lawyer than caveman lawyer. Civilization really does confuse and frighten them.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 27, 2021 04:50 PM (CX3cf)

440 432 One bright spot: Liz Cheney has made an atrocious ass out of herself in her very public flame-out. I invite Paul Ryan and his bitch Kevin McCarthy to join her in the festivities.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:48 PM (puu6v)

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Agreed. I thought she looked petulant and whiney.

Well, bitchy actually.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:50 PM (o25GB)

441 They are 20% of the republican party. In close elections never trumpers will be needed wither you like it or not.

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at May 27, 2021 04:50 PM (eurYS)

442 My ideal church is one where I'm not bothered by anyone except to be given a bulletin and a smile, where great hymns are sun, where the gospel is preached, where the pastor makes me feel uncomfortable and repentant while hopeful and joyful, and where I can leave without being pestered. I just want to be left alone.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Now you see how televangelists became so big.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 27, 2021 04:50 PM (OCTRt)

443 They gaslight us claiming that if we're not with the GOPe then it's because we worship at the Trump altar. No, we're not as obsessed with Trump as they are. We just want our country back.

Posted by: abbynormal at May 27, 2021 04:50 PM (Dse6M)

444 Well, bitchy actually.

We should bring her up before the Salem Bitch Trials.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:50 PM (KZzsI)

445 The MAGA agenda is like some wide open giant barn door and just past the threshold it's full of winning and these perpetual losers walk right past it to the shithouse and read the latest copy of their peer approved "Pathway to Victory."
Posted by: Fool Otto at May 27, 2021 04:49 PM (DB16e)
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so that's where I left it...

Posted by: Karl Rove at May 27, 2021 04:50 PM (2SdPm)

446 434 Absolutely. We never shut down...
Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:46 PM (6Je/Q)

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Excellent.

The only priest I knew who maintained his sanity was Fr. Altman in Wisconsin. No masks, no shutdown, still gave Communion by hand to the tongue. He was also very vocal during the election about not voting for pro-abortion democrats.

Last week his Bishop asked him to resign.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:49 PM (o25GB)
He is a good priest, and a defender of the faith... it often takes courage to be a Christian, he obviously has it. Paul would be proud of him...

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:51 PM (6Je/Q)

447
Last week his Bishop asked him to resign.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:49 PM (o25GB)

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On Pentecost Sunday.

That Bishop must be a real garbage person.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:51 PM (o25GB)

448 Another key to leftist thinking is zero-sum mentality

They think that by criticizing Christians, it makes them better people. The lower your opposition, the higher you are. This is socialism in a nutshell. They think all pies are finite, including the amount of virtue in the world, and they claim it all.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 27, 2021 04:51 PM (FPs7w)

449 @dodo

Beaver invites his otter best friend into his den to play with his stuffed animals

https://tinyurl.com/y28wwn8c

Posted by: Tami at May 27, 2021 04:51 PM (cF8AT)

450 We have to accept that both parties have moved on to where the power is, and we need to figure out how to turn popular will and votes into power again.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest

power grows from the barrel of a gun

Posted by: Mao ZeBiden at May 27, 2021 04:51 PM (IMQiW)

451 Leftism is where the money is. Always follow the money.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 27, 2021 04:51 PM (Fs5vw)

452 Never forget that W described John Roberts as a "strict constructionist."

How did that work out? So why do we still believe any of these charlatans??

Politicians are only good to be used as sandbags when everything starts.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:51 PM (jvt6t)

453 Excellent.

The only priest I knew who maintained his sanity was Fr. Altman in Wisconsin. No masks, no shutdown, still gave Communion by hand to the tongue. He was also very vocal during the election about not voting for pro-abortion democrats.

Last week his Bishop asked him to resign.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:49 PM (o25GB)

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That's close enough to Canada for Trudeau to have him arrested.

Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2021 04:52 PM (qGehY)

454 The only priest I knew who maintained his sanity was Fr. Altman in Wisconsin. No masks, no shutdown, still gave Communion by hand to the tongue. He was also very vocal during the election about not voting for pro-abortion democrats.

Last week his Bishop asked him to resign.
Posted by: Seems Legit


Wow. Just wow.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 27, 2021 04:52 PM (OCTRt)

455
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:31 PM (KZzsI)
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The confidence scam

Posted by: Braenyard at May 27, 2021 04:52 PM (hPGuH)

456 Last week his Bishop asked him to resign.

Almost all "Church leaders" are politicians first and men of God second, if that. The higher the authority, the more so. Nearly every individual congregation is more Biblically conservative than the leadership of a denomination.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:52 PM (KZzsI)

457 449 @dodo

Beaver invites his otter best friend into his den to play with his stuffed animals

https://tinyurl.com/y28wwn8c
Posted by: Tami at May 27, 2021 04:51 PM (cF8AT)

Just what The Otter wanted to hear......

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:52 PM (jvt6t)

458 They are 20% of the republican party. In close elections never trumpers will be needed wither you like it or not.

Like the Trump landslide? Don't think so.

Posted by: t-bird at May 27, 2021 04:53 PM (Ypqc1)

459 Politicians are only good to be used as sandbags when everything starts.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:51 PM (jvt6t)
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I dunno, they all seem pretty gutless.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 27, 2021 04:53 PM (2SdPm)

460 Interesting story CRT. The Guilty flee though no man pursues or something like that.

Even sociopaths or psychopaths, at some level, often want to justify their horrible acts, if only to their own conscience.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2021 04:53 PM (pO7gM)

461 And by corollary, ..
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

exactly!!

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 27, 2021 04:53 PM (FPs7w)

462 456 Last week his Bishop asked him to resign.

Almost all "Church leaders" are politicians first and men of God second, if that. The higher the authority, the more so. Nearly every individual congregation is more Biblically conservative than the leadership of a denomination.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:52 PM (KZzsI)

See: ELCA, PSUSA, etc....

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:53 PM (6Je/Q)

463 Oh, Lord, Ryan is speaking at The Ronald Reagan Library.

What a slap in the face.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:53 PM (o25GB)

464 PSUSA= PCUSA.... apologies...

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:54 PM (6Je/Q)

465 Sidebar:

"what the hell was going on in 1978
from Joe Mannix"

Drugs. Lots and lots of drugs.

Posted by: West at May 27, 2021 04:54 PM (QY+6a)

466 441 Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at May 27, 2021 04:50 PM (eurYS)

If the choice is between our losing "while in charge" with that 1/5th in power or getting steamrolled out of power I am fine with donkey being in charge.

My liberty will not be in hospice.

Posted by: sven at May 27, 2021 04:54 PM (Lzpvj)

467 I'm disappointed in the churches at large. Even Evangelical ones are taking the posture of maybe they'll be eaten last.

I'm not saying Churches should be "Republican, but there should be MASSIVE pushback on things like transgender issues. Homosexuality should be looked at the same way you would if people at the Church were "swingers" or something like that. You wouldn't for a second pretend its okay.

Posted by: Blago at May 27, 2021 04:54 PM (YN+Mc)

468 I can't believe Paul Ryan thinks anyone who didn't vote for Biden is going to care what he thinks. The guy is such a worm.

Posted by: Liz at May 27, 2021 04:54 PM (iFHRv)

469 We gotta fight like Paul Ryan? Roll over, stick you ass in the air and let it get kicked.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * poor substitute for a lightning rod at May 27, 2021 04:54 PM (fqsHy)

470 They gaslight us claiming that if we're not with the GOPe then it's because we worship at the Trump altar. No, we're not as obsessed with Trump as they are. We just want our country back.
Posted by: abbynormal


I am. Because Trump is the only one that fights.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 27, 2021 04:54 PM (OCTRt)

471
Beaver invites his otter best friend into his den to play with his stuffed animals

Beaver used to be MY best friend!

Posted by: Larry Mondelo at May 27, 2021 04:55 PM (63Dwl)

472 If the GOP spent 1/10th of the time fighting the Left that they do fighting us, we would live in an infinitely better place.
Posted by: ...
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Actually a really good point. The Democrats never cross their coalition. They may not do what they want, but they never go out in public and say that the party needs to be less union/black/gay.

GOP on the other hand has no qualms about insulting the base publicly and telling us we aren't wanted.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 27, 2021 04:55 PM (5p7BC)

473 452 Never forget that W described John Roberts as a "strict constructionist."

How did that work out? So why do we still believe any of these charlatans??

Politicians are only good to be used as sandbags when everything starts.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:51 PM (jvt6t)

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I'm old enough to remember Hugh Hewitt having orgasms on the radio over the pick of Roberts ... and I was going to be a conservative savior a la Romney -- "A Mormon NOT in the White House."

Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2021 04:55 PM (qGehY)

474 I think Christian Churches should, you know, be Christian...

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:55 PM (6Je/Q)

475 The Republican Party's biggest problem is Mitch McConnell. There can be no change until he goes, he keeps everyone else in line and cracks the whip. Once he is gone the rest of the dominos will fall. He is Republicans' Pelosi, mouldering corpse yet still deadly.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 27, 2021 04:56 PM (RMGKK)

476 Shorter Paul Ryan: "Let's us not be beastly to the Left. Let's be meek to them and turn the other cheek to them. And try to bring out their latent sense of fun...but don't let's be beastly to the Left....

Posted by: Boswell at May 27, 2021 04:56 PM (5iUNf)

477 If I had the opportunity, I would slap Paul Ryan, open hand, in the face like the little c**t bitch that he is.

Piece of shit m**therf**ker.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2021 04:57 PM (jm5qU)

478 474 I think Christian Churches should, you know, be Christian...
Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2021 04:55 PM (6Je/Q)

What an idea

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:57 PM (cSyAR)

479 477 If I had the opportunity, I would slap Paul Ryan, open hand, in the face like the little c**t bitch that he is.


I'm listening (fapfapfapfap)

Posted by: Shep! at May 27, 2021 04:58 PM (jvt6t)

480 Piece of shit m**therf**ker.

I liked the funny bender who drinks beer better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:58 PM (KZzsI)

481 Is it legal to knee Paul Ryan in his baby maker?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:58 PM (cSyAR)

482 NeverTrump is way more obsessed with Trump than actual Trump supporters. Their grift is gone.

I'm not interested in Trump being the dominant issue for conservatives moving forward.

Most Republicans I talk to, including die hard Trumpers, just want to move on and figure out some coalition that works.

Posted by: Blago at May 27, 2021 04:58 PM (YN+Mc)

483 Getting a write up on that old bull shit Adolf was Christian thing for Sunday's Book thread

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2021 04:59 PM (Cxk7w)

484 I'm old enough to remember Hugh Hewitt having orgasms on the radio over the pick of Roberts ... and I was going to be a conservative savior a la Romney -- "A Mormon NOT in the White House."
Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2021 04:55 PM (qGehY)

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Hewitt is a complete ass. Did you hear him pontificate that all "Jan 6 rioters" should be prosecuted and he supports the 9/11 style commission?

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 04:59 PM (o25GB)

485 @julie_kelly2 3m

It's clear in this video obtained by American Greatness that USCP attempted to provoke peaceful protestors outside the Capitol on January 6. This clip also is contrary to what officials said about law enforcement's use of crowd control devices.

https://tinyurl.com/yh2v5wbq

Posted by: Tami at May 27, 2021 04:59 PM (cF8AT)

486 481 Is it legal to knee Paul Ryan in his baby maker?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 27, 2021 04:58 PM (cSyAR)

Not in Chicago.....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 04:59 PM (jvt6t)

487 468 I can't believe Paul Ryan thinks anyone who didn't vote for Biden is going to care what he thinks. The guy is such a worm.
Posted by: Liz at May 27, 2021 04:54 PM (iFHRv)

Paul Ryan believes whatever the person putting the ATM card into the slot in his back wants him to believe.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 04:59 PM (puu6v)

488 "Trump was the first time the Left had faced any actual opposition since 1932."


I don't know history well enough to argue, BUT just the context of Nixon winning in a landslide, then being removed for covering up some crime he was not really involved in ... imo DeepState removed a threat, they chose a different path to remove Trump. (others were marginalized or were just never a real threat to their mafia) ?? ... (JFK wanted to break up the CIA, Eisenhower warned of the government/military industrial comples ...

Posted by: illiniwek at May 27, 2021 04:59 PM (Cus5s)

489 483 Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2021 04:59 PM (Cxk7w)

Hitler was not a Christian, he was however a non-smoking-vegan Gaia worshipper.

Posted by: sven at May 27, 2021 04:59 PM (Lzpvj)

490 Hewitt is wrong a lot.

He was insanely pro stimulus saying "if you don't want grandma to lose all her savings?" What?

We know the stimulus was an in-kind payback.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2021 05:00 PM (o25GB)

491 COVID NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at May 27, 2021 05:00 PM (Cxk7w)

492
Is it legal to knee Paul Ryan in his baby maker?


Yes. Although I'm not certain that Carl, his baby maker will be thrilled about it. Ryan has no idea how to be a man or make babies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 27, 2021 05:01 PM (HaL55)

493 The left/NT went on and on about how chaotic life was with Trump. Yeah it is because you assholes spent every second of your miserable lives freaking out about him. You created your own chaos.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 27, 2021 05:01 PM (xSsm7)

494 Heh. I read 481 as "illegal.... D'OH.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 27, 2021 05:01 PM (jvt6t)

495 Sven its worse than that, he put the Christian churches underground

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at May 27, 2021 05:02 PM (Cxk7w)

496 475 The Republican Party's biggest problem is Mitch McConnell. There can be no change until he goes, he keeps everyone else in line and cracks the whip. Once he is gone the rest of the dominos will fall. He is Republicans' Pelosi, mouldering corpse yet still deadly.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at May 27, 2021 04:56 PM (RMGKK)

He's filthy rich but has no popular support outside his bitches. Any Republican who runs in a Republican Senate primary (again, assuming a free and fair election) and vows to replace McConnell would win. Period.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 05:02 PM (puu6v)

497 @480

I like being fun loving and fancy free but when you have f****t ass f****ts like this little bitch daring to make pronouncements on a path forward out of situation he is instrumental in inflicting on us, fuck that guy, fuck him in the ass with a barbwired wrap jack fruit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2021 05:03 PM (jm5qU)

498 I am. Because Trump is the only one that fights.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 27, 2021 04:54 PM (OCTRt)
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We stand with the man who stands for us.
Otherwise, he will fall and we will to.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 27, 2021 05:03 PM (hPGuH)

499 The left/NT went on and on about how chaotic life was with Trump.

Its the wife beater thing. "come on baby, you don't want to back to the bad times when I had to hit you right? Just cook what I tell you and shut the hell up, and everything will be fine!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 05:03 PM (KZzsI)

500 Trump isn't Liz Cheny, he's doing more than going for a walk.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 27, 2021 05:03 PM (hPGuH)

501 "Higher Truth" biggest two bullshit in US history.
Inevitably used by amoral smegma. Evil.

Posted by: Orange Man Bad (Rheeeeees Be Upon Him) at May 27, 2021 05:04 PM (jV+aN)

502 "Higher Truth" biggest two word bullshit in US history.

Posted by: Orange Man Bad (Rheeeeees Be Upon Him) at May 27, 2021 05:05 PM (jV+aN)

503 I like being fun loving and fancy free but when you have f****t ass f****ts like this little bitch daring to make pronouncements on a path forward out of situation he is instrumental in inflicting on us, fuck that guy, fuck him in the ass with a barbwired wrap jack fruit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2021 05:03 PM (jm5qU)


Sir, your newsletter. May I have a subscription, please?

Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2021 05:05 PM (ZfRYq)

504 In 1932 the communist party got over a million votes and their would have been revolution if FDR had not won. Be careful what you wish for. People were storing food in cellers in kansas and Iowa preparing for the communist revolution. Veteran were being driven out of washington d.c. by federal troops. Sound familiar? General strikes and red flags on barricades in city streets.

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at May 27, 2021 05:07 PM (eurYS)

505 He's filthy rich but has no popular support outside his bitches. Any Republican who runs in a Republican Senate primary (again, assuming a free and fair election) and vows to replace McConnell would win. Period.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 27, 2021 05:02 PM (puu6v)


Unfortunately that is not the case. Anyone running against McConnell in a primary will be lucky to get 30% of the vote. In the general McConnell will coast to re-election with around 60%.

The problem is the electorate. Particularly the supposed conservative electorate.

Posted by: TC at May 27, 2021 05:13 PM (AyjaL)

506 31 Said this earlier today. The future of the Republican party is:

1) Nationalist
2) Middle Class
3) Antiwar

Paul Ryan, Liz Cheney, and the rest of the dinosaurs can either adapt to the new reality or get plowed under. There is no going back.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 27, 2021 03:31 PM (5p7BC)


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Dave during the election you were adamant that the margin of fraud would never be big enough to beat Trump, what is your take now?

Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at May 27, 2021 05:16 PM (cMXNt)

507 What offends the Ryans and the Cheneys of the GOP about Trump was that Trump did not see the primary goal of the GOP as making sure that pols making 200k a year end up with 50 mil in the bank.

Posted by: Azjaeger at May 27, 2021 05:18 PM (2ghlJ)

508 I'd like to humbly offer a new descriptor for the Ryans and the Cheneys:

Vichycons

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at May 27, 2021 05:26 PM (GA8EQ)

509 No dear, just a referendum on your version of the Republican Party. Your problem is thinking you are the shit when you merely represent a marginal group within the party that isn't reflective of the GOP voter (if there are any left)

Posted by: Political McGuffin at May 27, 2021 05:28 PM (80Sdw)

510 The problem is Nancy P has more balls than Ryan ever had.

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at May 27, 2021 05:58 PM (J9vKd)

511 Makes me think of this youtube video
https://youtu.be/igBTQiZbzfE

Posted by: aivanther at May 27, 2021 06:35 PM (pBfT/)

512 He is an absolute horrible human being who doesn't care about the people he purports to represent. I can't believe I voted for him. I will not vote in next election if they try to serve up another Ryan. Let the country burn.

Posted by: Jacqueline Ives at May 27, 2021 06:54 PM (h0Sy1)

513 The GOP is DEAD. Long live the GOP

Hilarious that these two NeverTrump losers think anyone but they and the 1% of the the NeverTrump GOPe wants to "conserve" the neocon establishment GOP.

Posted by: deadrody at May 27, 2021 07:28 PM (/jrmI)

514 But then Trump came along and he started betraying
each and every single fundamental thing he believed in because ick
Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2021 04:02 PM (KZzsI)


I mean, what IS that? What is that visceral gut-clenching loathing that descends upon people at the mention of Trump? To crumble on your core principals because you don't like somebody? Heck - I hardly like ANYbody, but I still believe what I believe. It's almost like a demonic delusion.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2021 04:05 PM (45fpk)

It isn't ethics because 9 out of 10 of those guys hung out with him all the time before he ran for President.

It really was just that he honestly sided with the people.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 27, 2021 07:57 PM (eoQWY)

515 Ryan makes Obama look like a genius.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at May 27, 2021 09:29 PM (EcD5Y)

516 Liz Cheney can kiss my ass.

Posted by: ChupaMe at May 27, 2021 09:31 PM (JsZE6)

517 The problem is Nancy P has more balls than Ryan ever had.

That's because she made a necklace out of Pubbie balls like Ryan's

Posted by: Bob at May 28, 2021 08:41 AM (pft3j)

518 Did the Constitution save us from Brown, Griswold, Hart-Cellar, Civil Rights, Miranda, Abortion, the fruits of ERA, Affirmative Action, Open Borders, Election Fraud, Fag Marriage, Obamacare, Bake the Cake Bigot, Faggot Adoption, Civil Rights for Trannies, Men in Ladies' Rooms, Men in Women's Sports, Everything is Interstate Commerce, or Imminent Domain whenever and wherever are 'betters' say? So fuck the system and fuck the impotent Constitution.

Posted by: TruthUr at May 28, 2021 09:33 AM (XmppF)

519 I'm not sure why but this blog is loading incredibly slow for me.

Is anyone else having this issue or is it a problem on my end?
I'll check back later on and see if the problem still exists.

Posted by: Bet at June 01, 2021 12:05 PM (DJGBV)

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