Joe's Address to Congress and Alexis de Toqueville

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I recently had an interesting thing happen on social media. A "friend of a friend" who is quite liberal wanted to be my "friend", too. He doesn't seem like a troll. Could be trying to convert me. Anyway, after the "address to Congress", he wrote:

Joe did a great job.

Of course, not a word from the conservatives who watched Trump deliver one train wreck after another after another after another. I am so 'bleep' over it.

Got 12 "likes". They really expected kudos from conservatives for Joe's speech. Don't know why they think conservatives would have watched the speech voluntarily.

Various "friends" wrote:

AND! He's DOING a great job!

Feeling safe listening to Biden.

Do they really think he is running things?

There was also a bit on Fox News twisting "facts". They are so stuck on Fox News. Anyway, the next day I copied in the CNN tweet about Joe's "Moderate Radicalism" and asked why it would make conservatives want to watch the speech. He deleted the comment. Heh.

There's a Newsbusters piece out now on how lefties are trying to portray that "moderate radicalism" as "not socialism".

In the midnight hour on MSNBC, New York Times reporter Elaina Plott guessed "he delivered what was really the most progressive address, I would say, at a joint session, maybe since LBJ." But he still didn't give "Republicans a lot to latch onto" and that "Joe Biden's brilliance in some ways is that he's kind of boring." Host Chris Hayes said this was because he was white. NBC reporter Sahil Kapur added Biden's "superpower" is "He makes massive multi-trillion-dollar FDR-size liberal policies sound moderate and middle of the road."

As we creep ever closer to their dreams of European socialism, the media whisper sweet nothings that this is merely "smart policies most Americans want." They insist Biden is difficult to "latch onto" and "villainize" because they are energetically working to prevent the argument that Democrats are ever extreme on anything.

This isn't "news." It's just sales.

I didn't watch the speech myself, but I looked through Stephen Green's drunkblog, and this resonated with me:

Stephen Green | Apr 28, 2021 9:35 PM est

This is the part of the speech I'd been tipped off about, despite my best efforts to come in spoiler-free.

But for Joe Damn Biden to tell us this is a contest between democracy and autocracy, when everything he proposes takes control and money away from the individual, is the saddest and most sickening demagoguery I've heard in 40 years of following politics.

I truly despise this lying SOB.

Somehow, this made me think of Alexis de Toqueville and Soft Despotism. He wasn't right about everything, but he was right about this:

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Alexis de Tocqueville

What an interesting, complex man. Great grandson of a liberal aristocrat who lost his head to the guillotine in the French Revolution, he had a complicated relationship to later constitutional monarchies. His trip to the USA was apparently partly to escape a period of political discomfort. It was supposed to be a tour and evaluation of the prison system here. He and his traveling companion didn't follow the script.

Later:

Briefly imprisoned for opposing Louis-Napoleon's coup d'etat on December 2, 1851, Tocqueville was deprived of all political offices for refusing his oath of loyalty to the new regime.

But this was not the end of his political career. There were a lot of twists and turns in his life. Interesting reading.

He gave us some warnings about perils inherent in democracy. I'm not sure his writing covers what is happening right now, but I think "soft despotism" is a good description for how our current despotism presents itself.

Alexis de Toqueville died kind of young, of tuberculosis.

Louis-Napoleon (Napoleon III)

That Constitutional Monarchy thing kind of breaks down when you have to execute a coup d'etat, I think. Napoleon III was really interested in style, though.

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A basic principle of Napoleon III interior decoration was leave no space undecorated. Another principle was polychromy, an abundance of color, obtained by using colored marble, malachite, onyx, porphyry, mosaics, and silver or gold plated bronze. Wood panelling was often encrusted with rare and exotic woods, or darkened to resemble ebony. The facade of the Opera Garnier employed seventeen different colored materials, including various marbles, stones, and bronze,

Architecture
The dominant architectural style of the Second Empire was eclecticism, drawing liberally from the Gothic style, Renaissance style, and the styles dominant during the reigns of Louis XV and Louis XVI. The style was described by Emile Zola, not an admirer of the Empire, as "the opulent bastard child of all the styles.". The best example was the Opera Garnier, begun in 1862 but not finished until 1875. The architect was Charles Garnier (1825-189, who won the competition for the design when he was only thirty-seven. When asked by the Empress Eugenie what the style of the building was called, he replied simply, "Napoleon III." At the time, it was at the time the largest theater in the world, but much of the interior space was devoted to purely decorative spaces: grand stairways, huge foyers for promenading, and large private boxes. Another example was the Mairie, or city hall, of the 1st arrondissement of Paris, built in 1855-1861 in a neo-Gothic style by the architect Jacques-Ignace Hittorff (1792-1867).

There is much more on architecture, landscape design, museums, art, city planning, etc.

And music, music, music. Opera, light opera, popular music and more.

Napoleon III intervened personally to have Richard Wagner come back to Paris; Wagner rehearsed the orchestra sixty-three times for the first French production of Tannhauser on March 13, 1861. Unfortunately, Wagner was unpopular with both the French critics and with the members of the Jockey Club, an influential French social society. During the premiere, with Wagner in the audience, the Jockey Club members whistled and jeered from the first notes of the Overture. After just three performances, the Opera was pulled from the repertoire. Wagner got his revenge in 1870, when the Prussian Army captured Napoleon III and surrounded Paris; he wrote a special piece of music to celebrate the event, Ode to the German Army at Paris."

Hmmm. Maybe Napoleon III should have paid more attention to foreign affairs.

Music

Offenbach was a favorite during the reign of Napoleon III. He started his career as a cellist.

Les Contes d'Hoffmann: Barcarolle


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1 I'll get em

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 10:19 AM (Cxk7w)

2 Halloo

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom at May 01, 2021 10:21 AM (338Qn)

3 Interesting in that we are still following the French lead, even today. Well, maybe. Our military leadership is all in on the repression.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 10:21 AM (jvt6t)

4 Leftists, this world aint big enough for the both of us

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom at May 01, 2021 10:22 AM (338Qn)

5 Dutifully called
Alexis was a interesting man

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 10:22 AM (Cxk7w)

6 Offenbach was a favorite during the reign of Napoleon III. He started his career as a cellist.
I heard radio playing a sampling of his works: la vie Parisienne, Le Galop Infernal and Barcarolle.
Barcarolle took me right back to my piano teacher instructing me that piece. She was also my 8th grade teacher, a nun...and I reflected fondly on how that woman was determined to bring civilization to the hood rats that were us.

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2021 10:23 AM (DJFLF)

7 Hey

Posted by: Diogenes at May 01, 2021 10:24 AM (axyOa)

8 I have a hard time putting my head around the idea that there are actually people who find Fingers Biden inspiring.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:24 AM (fLVm1)

9 Heard most of Sundowner's lies in replay commentary, not a word was believable or anything to cheer about as a conservative.

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 10:24 AM (Cxk7w)

10 Wow, that Napoleon Dynamite could dance AND decorate! Three thumbs up!

Posted by: Derek Zoolander at May 01, 2021 10:24 AM (M1BFL)

11 Nice chandeliers !

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:25 AM (V13WU)

12 I got to see the inside of the Opera Garnier in person a while back. It's really over the top.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:25 AM (fLVm1)

13 I have a hard time putting my head around the idea that there are actually people who find Fingers Biden inspiring.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:24 AM (fLVm1)


there were people who found Stalin and Hitler inspiring.

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:26 AM (V13WU)

14 Read the content. Mistake.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at May 01, 2021 10:27 AM (MhbK0)

15 I got to see the inside of the Opera Garnier in person a while back. It's really over the top.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:25 AM (fLVm1)

why ? oh, I get it , it's about Chagall isn't it.

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:27 AM (V13WU)

16 Mark Twain on Wagner - "Wagner's music is much better than it sounds."

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 01, 2021 10:27 AM (bxPTJ)

17 I like Rockaria.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 10:28 AM (PUmDY)

18 Just caught up on the Tucker/Luntz segment. Nauseating. All the vote harder people need to watch it. We are lost.

Posted by: Only Context at May 01, 2021 10:28 AM (xEIoY)

19 I like the write-up on Second Empire style, and the use of polychromy. I've been reading a book about L'Ancien Regime, which also features detail about art and decoration of the time.
It makes me regret not paying more attention when I used to visit sites of note in Paris. I'd be much more attentive if I traveled there now.

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2021 10:28 AM (DJFLF)

20 Wasn't it Mark Twain who said that according to people who should know, Wagner is much better than it sounds?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:29 AM (fLVm1)

21 My favourite Hoffmann is Neil Shicoff, and this complete performance of the Tales of Hoffmann is terrific: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z97dnSFE8Q

Unfortunately, it has Italian subtitles, not English, but you can still enjoy the performance , sets and music. I forced my daughter to turn off her anime and watch this with me, and we watched half of it on one day. The next day, she ASKED to see the second half! I'd say it's a great introduction for young people who don't know opera, just like the Richard Burton/Elizabeth Taylor 'Taming of the Shrew' is good for people who don't know Shakespeare.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 01, 2021 10:30 AM (85Ax+)

22 Was the Napoleon III style really new? You can find similar absurd levels of overstuffed gimcrackery at Versailles.

Posted by: pep at May 01, 2021 10:30 AM (v16oJ)

23
Also contributing to Tannhauser's failure was that compsers were not allowed to conduct their own works at the Paris Opera. The premiere was conducted by the music director, Pierre-Louis Dietsch, the acme of feeble incompetence. Dietsch thought he could conduct Wagner's music from the first violin part. He later resigned his position after being blasted by Verdi during rehearsals for The Sicilian Vespers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 01, 2021 10:30 AM (mht8P)

24 Yo!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 01, 2021 10:31 AM (CjFDo)

25
"Wagner has some good moments and some bad quarters of an hour." - Gioacchino Rossini

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 01, 2021 10:31 AM (mht8P)

26 You know who adored Wagner?

*dreams wistfully of the good old volksgemeinschaft*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:32 AM (fLVm1)

27 there were people who found Stalin and Hitler inspiring.
It's wrong but understandable. Hitler was charismatic and the savior of the nation, Stalin was the omniscient strong man and leader into the future Communist paradise, who would also kill you in a heartbeat.

Biden is...tapioca laced with arsenic.

Posted by: pep at May 01, 2021 10:32 AM (v16oJ)

28 Wagner got his revenge in 1870, when the Prussian Army captured Napoleon III and surrounded Paris; he wrote a special piece of music to celebrate the event, Ode to the German Army at Paris."

You really need to hear it in the original Klingon !!!

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic... at May 01, 2021 10:32 AM (okV1R)

29 Oops, those are Spanish subtitles for Hoffmann, not Italian. Should have noticed the upside-down question mark. I've got the dvd which has English subtitles with about a dozen other languages.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 01, 2021 10:33 AM (85Ax+)

30 People are retards.

That is the only explanation for this completely fake Biden appreciation.

Virtue Signaling has completely ruined 30-40% of the Population.
They don't know a fucking thing.
They only know that they want Likes.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 10:34 AM (Z0nsg)

31 Anyway, after the "address to Congress", he wrote:

Joe did a great job.


Perhaps a gentle counter attack like, "I know you're too smart to actually believe that, so I am curious as to why you wrote it ?"

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic... at May 01, 2021 10:34 AM (okV1R)

32 I had American History in the 9th grade and deTocqueville was required reading. Bet that doesn't happen anymore.

Posted by: Only Context at May 01, 2021 10:35 AM (xEIoY)

33 My only Napoleon III tidbit is 12pdr artillery in American Civil War were known as Napoleons, but it was Napoleon III that gave them their name.
https://www.historynet.com/ 12 pounder napoleon a french cannon in the civil service

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 10:35 AM (Cxk7w)

34 I believe many who say favorable things about Wagner :

1) Never had to sit through one of his 4 hour "operas"
2) Never had to sit through one of his 5 hour "operas"
3) Never had to sit through his 15 hour Der Ring des Nibelungen

Or actually listened to anything but the flight of the valkyries.

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:35 AM (V13WU)

35 I've tried for years to like Wagner - I just can't do it. I like his orchestral stuff, like the overtures. But so many times there's a radio performance of the Ring cycle and I think 'This is it. I'm going to really listen to this opera, and this time the magic will work on me, and I'll love it like so many other people do.' Then it starts, and after 15 minutes my attention is wandering, I'm thinking that this couldn't have really been written this way, maybe the singers are allowed to improvise a lot. And then I'm gone.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 01, 2021 10:35 AM (85Ax+)

36 I guess Offenbach was okay, but he's no Cardi B doing WAP.

Posted by: pep at May 01, 2021 10:35 AM (v16oJ)

37 We live in a world of NPC's. Orange Man Bad!! Mean Tweets!! 30,000 LIES!!!1!1!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 10:36 AM (jvt6t)

38 There were a few Founders I would have happily traded for DeToqueville.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 10:36 AM (Z0nsg)

39 ...Briefly imprisoned for opposing Louis-Napoleon's coup d'etat

******

Yep, the guy stepped just one deToqueville over the line. Sweet Jesus!!!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 01, 2021 10:36 AM (Fc5rx)

40 Or actually listened to anything but the flight of the valkyries.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:35 AM (V13WU)

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Heh. All I know about Wagner comes from repeated viewings of Apocalypse Now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:37 AM (fLVm1)

41 >>Yep, the guy stepped just one deToqueville over the line. Sweet Jesus!!!


MARK IT ZERO!

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 10:37 AM (Z0nsg)

42 But we had the best economy in a generation, lowest unemployment and pride was returning. Please square that circle libtards.

I know the answer, but it just infuriates me even more.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 10:37 AM (jvt6t)

43 Honus Wagner>Robert Wagner>Wilhelm Wagner

Posted by: Only Context at May 01, 2021 10:38 AM (xEIoY)

44 Wagner scares the hell out of the slopes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:38 AM (fLVm1)

45 There were a few Founders I would have happily traded for DeToqueville.

Posted by: garrett

Looking at you, TJ.

Posted by: pep at May 01, 2021 10:38 AM (v16oJ)

46 Yep, the guy stepped just one deToqueville over the line. Sweet Jesus!!!
Posted by: Muldoon


* pulls trebuchet into position *

Posted by: Adriane the Pumpkin Chuckin' Critic... at May 01, 2021 10:38 AM (okV1R)

47 I tried to sit through, I truly did. But the sounds that entered my ears inspired an onset of Vomitus (it is a latin term, ask Muldoon..) so had to leave.

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:39 AM (V13WU)

48 A few years ago Ace pointed out that everything printed by the lamestream media is nothing but a psy-op, to rile up the Left and demoralize Normals. Your new "friend" and all these pathetic pocket Bolshies apparently think they are doing fabulous jedi mind tricks on us.
As the late great William F. Buckley Jr said:"Stupidity has learned to think."

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 01, 2021 10:39 AM (umBCo)

49 FUN FACT: DeToqueville was the last European on record that ever said anything positive about America.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:40 AM (fLVm1)

50
Or actually listened to anything but the flight of the valkyries.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:35 AM (V13WU)

____________

I've heard Parsifal, Tannhauser and Lohengrin in the theatre. And while Wagner's music may be revolutionary, Verdi - for all his rum-de-dum accompaniment - gave us operas where we really care about the characters. Wagner's characters are tailor's dummies for him to hang his bloated philosophical maunderings on.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 01, 2021 10:40 AM (mht8P)

51 Meet me at the opera house about a quarter til three.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 10:41 AM (PUmDY)

52
once you get the hang of it, the Wagner Power Roller works pretty well

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 01, 2021 10:42 AM (DUIap)

53 Kill the wabbit!

Posted by: Elmer J Fudd at May 01, 2021 10:42 AM (4I/2K)

54 >>> 4 Leftists, this world aint big enough for the both of us
Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom at May 01, 2021 10:22 AM (338Qn)

something something carbon footprint

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 01, 2021 10:42 AM (HDgQl)

55 I think I'll check out this Wagner dude on Spotify.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 01, 2021 10:42 AM (HrMC1)

56 51 Meet me at the opera house about a quarter til three.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 10:41 AM (PUmDY)

She's ready....yeah, yeah, yeah, she's ready.....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 10:42 AM (jvt6t)

57 Morning.

Blind Guardian - Imaginations From The Other Side

https://youtu.be/wn7syqDiLXI

Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2021 10:42 AM (1Yy3c)

58 @49 FUN FACT: DeToqueville was the last European on record that ever said anything positive about America.
*****
Churchill was positive that America would save Europe long before we decided to do so.

Posted by: Cosda at May 01, 2021 10:43 AM (6gK/k)

59 kinda difficult for many foreign intellectuals to say positive things these days, since we are now promoting various personality cults, and not the constitution that made us truly unique

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:43 AM (V13WU)

60 once you get the hang of it, the Wagner Power Roller works pretty well
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 01, 2021 10:42 AM (DUIap)


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It's the only house-painting system Hitler would use.

Two hours, two coats!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:43 AM (fLVm1)

61 not us here, we are special, but the public. for the most part.

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:44 AM (V13WU)

62
The Ride of the Valkyries, performed by organist Anthony Newman.

https://youtu.be/jd63y1xbkUc

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 01, 2021 10:44 AM (mht8P)

63 FUN FACT: DeToqueville was the last European on record that ever said anything positive about America.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:40 AM (fLVm1)

You know who else did positive things about America?

Hitler.

Posted by: Lunatic that sees Hitler everywhere at May 01, 2021 10:44 AM (1Yy3c)

64 The media fawned over" joes" speech, but the best I think was one of the talking heads marveling at joes modulation and calmness of voice... LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at May 01, 2021 10:45 AM (Zmnko)

65
But we had the best economy in a generation, lowest unemployment and pride was returning.

And then Trump destroyed the Obama recovery.

Posted by: Leftoid at May 01, 2021 10:45 AM (63Dwl)

66 https://youtu.be/ohcvIHNbOHc

Obligatory

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 10:45 AM (jvt6t)

67 The Ride of the Valkyries, performed by organist Anthony Newman.



now do the Lone Ranger theme

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:45 AM (V13WU)

68 Do the talking heads on MSNBC and CNN who call Biden "brilliant" and all of that actually BELIEVE this themselves? Or are they trying to get the great unwashed to believe it?
Or are they simply saying what their audience wants to hear?

I would love to know what these Pravda-tards actually say about SlowJoe when they're drinking and the cameras are off.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 01, 2021 10:46 AM (HrMC1)

69 Ol whispering Joe, the voice and delivery of a serial killer.

Posted by: Only Context at May 01, 2021 10:46 AM (xEIoY)

70 69 Ol whispering Joe, the voice and delivery of a serial killer.
Posted by: Only Context at May 01, 2021 10:46 AM (xEIoY)

Voice of a doddering senile old coot

Posted by: It's me donna at May 01, 2021 10:47 AM (Zmnko)

71 Serious question to ask anyone that thinks Joe did a good job, what part exactly of the speech did you like or did you agree with?

Posted by: Only Context at May 01, 2021 10:47 AM (xEIoY)

72 The media fawned over" joes" speech, but the best I think was one of the talking heads marveling at joes modulation and calmness of voice... LOL
Posted by: It's me donna

Autotune.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 01, 2021 10:48 AM (OssQ4)

73 You know who else did positive things about America?

Hitler.
Posted by: Lunatic that sees Hitler everywhere at May 01, 2021 10:44 AM (1Yy3c)

And Stalin loved Packards, jazz and American Westerns...

Posted by: JoeF. at May 01, 2021 10:48 AM (HrMC1)

74 I didn't watch the Thirf's address.

Was he in a suit or was he wearing a diaper and a bonnet?

Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2021 10:48 AM (1Yy3c)

75 Its really sad watching what the news media has become.

DUring the Trump administration they were a pathetic bunch of radical lunatics but at least they made a pretense at reporting news. They broke stories -- stories that were often false or at best rumors, but presented as news. They pretended to investigate, which consisted mostly of "repeating a rumor DM'ed to me by a disgruntled bureaucrat".

Now its just tongue bathing fantasies and North Korea-style nonsense

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 01, 2021 10:49 AM (KZzsI)

76 And then Trump destroyed the Obama recovery.
Posted by: Leftoid at May 01, 2021 10:45 AM (63Dwl)

By starting a real one...which Senile Joe is dismantling and shipping to Mexico and China

Posted by: CN at May 01, 2021 10:49 AM (ONvIw)

77
now do the Lone Ranger theme
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:45 AM (V13WU)

__________

You got it!

https://youtu.be/sZN6tnEr0aM

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 01, 2021 10:49 AM (mht8P)

78 Autotune.

Husband thinks he has an earpiece telling him what to say so he is slightly behind when speaking thus the hesitation....

Posted by: It's me donna at May 01, 2021 10:50 AM (Zmnko)

79 Just vote harder.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 10:50 AM (jvt6t)

80 Tucker did a nice breakdown of bidet's appearance. It is at Breitbart under the heading : "Carlson Rips Media for Response to Presidential Address - Committed 'a Series of Symbolic Sex Acts on Biden' "

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:51 AM (V13WU)

81 About 40 years ago my old "original intent" Bible group was getting very concerned about losing America ... basically to the "commies" that had marched through our institutions. ... There must have been some Birchers in the group. idk, because mostly we pushed a Biblical response, not much political.


anyway ... the urgency then feels like now (we even had "go bags" and took a Hunter Safety class). Reagan was maybe a political speed bump then, but the march of the DeepState (which I think is the main head of the Hydra) has been a relentless ratchet, even during Trump.


Maybe the 80's was when we lost power, but every decade (probably since 1776) had its significant losses for individual sovereignty (from a political view). Now they are openly tyrannical, "no God given rights are absolute", says the meat puppet. The rights remain, but the people might submit to BigGov instead of fighting.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 01, 2021 10:51 AM (Cus5s)

82 Just vote harder.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 10:50 AM (jvt6t)

Works in Florida and some other places.

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:52 AM (V13WU)

83 I often say show me a Leftist and I will show you someone who wants the gulag opened, of course they loved Sundowner's hate America and Conservatives are the enemy speech.

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 10:52 AM (Cxk7w)

84 I see we've reached the "wider powers" stage of our political class.

Our politicians demand more power, because they didn't have enough to make sure things were done right.

In the world where I live, failure means a project is shelved, or, back to the drawing board to see where the failure lie and see if anything can be done to avoid future failure.

In the real world, things tend to move forward though successful implementation incremental steps, yet, our current political class stands that concept on its head.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 01, 2021 10:53 AM (2SdPm)

85 So joe is back in Delaware again this weekend.... Must be getting his drug transfusions

Posted by: It's me donna at May 01, 2021 10:53 AM (Zmnko)

86 I'd be interested to hear their thoughts on why Joe says things like "I'm going to get in trouble" and "I'm in trouble." I think those are accidental admissions.

I'd also like to hear their thoughts behind why five cities in five states simultaneously stopped counting at the same time - across multiple time zones - on election night, but I know that's a pipe dream. NO ONE has ever explained that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 10:53 AM (44/1o)

87 26 You know who adored Wagner?

*dreams wistfully of the good old volksgemeinschaft*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 10:32 AM (fLVm1)



Oooh, ooh, I know. Me!

Posted by: Mad King Ludwig at May 01, 2021 10:53 AM (PiwSw)

88 How is it our Constitutional rights are not absolute but the government's authority is ever expanding and total?

Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2021 10:54 AM (1Yy3c)

89 I like Jeff Lynne hires very hot strings.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 10:54 AM (PUmDY)

90 88 How is it our Constitutional rights are not absolute but the government's authority is ever expanding and total?
Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2021 10:54 AM (1Yy3c)

Because Richie Rich says so and he pays off the pols.

Posted by: CN at May 01, 2021 10:54 AM (ONvIw)

91 Serious question:

Has President* Biden been asked an impromptu question by the media yet?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 10:54 AM (44/1o)

92 For the last 50 years Joe had the best healthcare this country had to offer. People who thinks that he is going anywhere are mistaken. His brain is gone but his overall health is most likely fine.

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:54 AM (V13WU)

93 Has President* Biden been asked an impromptu question by the media yet?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 10:54 AM (44/1o)
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The media does not dare to go off script. They don't want to be "Seth Riched."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 01, 2021 10:56 AM (2SdPm)

94
I'd also like to hear their thoughts behind why five cities in five states simultaneously stopped counting at the same time - across multiple time zones - on election night, but I know that's a pipe dream. NO ONE has ever explained that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 10:53 AM


there was a plumbing issue..a pipe burst and they had to stop counting /sarc

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 01, 2021 10:56 AM (DUIap)

95 For the last 50 years Joe had the best healthcare this country had to offer. People who thinks that he is going anywhere are mistaken. His brain is gone but his overall health is most likely fine.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:54 AM (V13WU)

***

I'm not joking when I say that whatever steroids and other chemicals they use on him have to be making him run hot. The trade-off with engines is they don't last as long.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 10:57 AM (44/1o)

96 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 10:57 AM (44/1o)

That's why you never hear what he's doing on weekends in Delaware.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:00 AM (jvt6t)

97 I'm not joking when I say that whatever steroids and other chemicals they use on him have to be making him run hot. The trade-off with engines is they don't last as long.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 10:57 AM (44/1o)
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Yeah, the people in charge don't care if Joe has an aneurysm. In fact, Joe's wife may be hoping that happens, because, then, anyone questioning Joe's policies and financial shenanigans will be branded as an insensitive lout. Joe will have an even longer funeral than McCain.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 01, 2021 11:00 AM (2SdPm)

98 92 Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 10:54 AM (V13WU)

I'll take that bet, he has had multiple cerebral events PRIOR to his dementia.

Alzheimer's has a legitimate health impact as the brain continues its pattern of deterioriation.

He is in early stage transitioning to middle stage.

Witness his rambling incoherence on trains at his "I did this already" Amtrak speech.

Eventually his balance and locomotion will be impacted to the point he will be unable to control his navigation across a room.

Loads of fun, I am so thrilled the donks were so hungry for power they decided to abused an already retarded man.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:01 AM (Lzpvj)

99 Well, time to wander. Just needed to kill some time before calling people with updates on Mom.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 01, 2021 11:01 AM (2SdPm)

100 We got grampa a trouble mask for Mother's Day.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at May 01, 2021 11:02 AM (W4eKo)

101 95 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 10:57 AM (44/1o)

The powers that be that are actually running things could give two fucks if the front person is kneepads or plugz.

The ONLY person bothered is Doctor Jill because she loses her seat at the big boy table.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:02 AM (Lzpvj)

102 Maybe the 80's was when we lost power, but every decade (probably since 1776) had its significant losses for individual sovereignty (from a political view). Now they are openly tyrannical, "no God given rights are absolute", says the meat puppet. The rights remain, but the people might submit to BigGov instead of fighting.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 01, 2021 10:51 AM (Cus5s)

it's never popular to say it out loud, but the Original Constitution died in 1865.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 01, 2021 11:02 AM (bxPTJ)

103 sven, that was not a bet. pass.

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 11:04 AM (V13WU)

104 102 Posted by: Tom Servo at May 01, 2021 11:02 AM (bxPTJ)

1861 actually, when Lincoln forced the union to endure at gunpoint, got away with the suspense of habeus corpus and concentrated as much graft power in DC as he did the game was over.

Slavery was evil, and evil was paid unto evil.

Brazil managed to rid themselves of slavery without killing 1/5th their military aged males.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:05 AM (Lzpvj)

105 Those eyes, too. That man's eyes are black where they used to be blue. I don't know if that's drugs or dementia, but his eyes are black and souless these days. Wouldn't bright lights from the sun and TV cameras make pupils retract so that there's more blue visible, or is that not The Science anymore?

It's so bad that Reuters et al have fact checked it to say (no joke) "Biden's eyes are a normal color"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:05 AM (44/1o)

106 >>Brazil managed to rid themselves of slavery without killing 1/5th their military aged males.


Worked out just awesome for Brazil, too.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:05 AM (zK4uf)

107 103 Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 11:04 AM (V13WU)

You acknowledge the day is coming at *insert random x* that the charade will be unable to be maintained then?

"SHake it off Joey, shake it off!" is not much of a plan.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:06 AM (Lzpvj)

108 It's so bad that Reuters et al have fact checked it to say (no joke) "Biden's eyes are a normal color"
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:05 AM (44/1o)

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It's good that Reuters conclusively resolved this issue.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 11:06 AM (fLVm1)

109 These are the good old days

Cherish these moments

Posted by: Zeera at May 01, 2021 11:07 AM (K7cZK)

110 106 Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:05 AM (zK4uf)

I think I prefer Brazil's future to the one we are likely building.

They are not a racial dystopia.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:07 AM (Lzpvj)

111 when Lincoln forced the union to endure at gunpoint, got away with the suspense of habeus corpus and concentrated as much graft power in DC as he did the game was over

The Deep State was born in a log cabin.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at May 01, 2021 11:07 AM (W4eKo)

112 Black eyes. Lifeless eyes. Like a doll's eyes.......

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:08 AM (jvt6t)

113 111 Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at May 01, 2021 11:07 AM (W4eKo)

Civil servants who do not understand history hate people who do.

In the battle between graft cannon versus free market the GOP has often been on the side of the devil.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:08 AM (Lzpvj)

114 I found it hard to believe that anyone is inspired by Fungus Brain. Media lies, however, are powerful.

Posted by: Northern lurker at May 01, 2021 11:09 AM (cSyAR)

115 You acknowledge the day is coming at *insert random x* that the charade will be unable to be maintained then?

"SHake it off Joey, shake it off!" is not much of a plan.
Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:06 AM (Lzpvj)

take it easy sven, you are about to fall into a pile of straw

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 11:09 AM (V13WU)

116 >>They are not a racial dystopia.


You are completely wrong there. All of South America is governed in relation to skin tone. All of it.

90+% Brazil's population is cowed.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:10 AM (zK4uf)

117 Americans are so spoiled, fat & happy. They have no understanding really of where this is going. They think they are owning the cons, but is will be a self own.

Then it's too late.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:11 AM (jvt6t)

118 You want to see racism in its most pure form, visit any large city in South America.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:11 AM (zK4uf)

119 116 Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:10 AM (zK4uf)

Not my experience, but "okay"....

I see an awful lot of highly placed Germans in Chile and Brazil.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:11 AM (Lzpvj)

120 You are completely wrong there. All of South America is governed in relation to skin tone. All of it.

***

Why, it's almost like the republic was an anomaly that is reverting back to the natural state of man.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:13 AM (44/1o)

121 115 Posted by: runner at May 01, 2021 11:09 AM (V13WU)

So you were not implying that Joey Plugz was phsycially the peak of health?

My mistake then, I am certain he is at peak form and by far healthier than Trump age for age.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:13 AM (Lzpvj)

122 >>I see an awful lot of highly placed Germans in Chile and Brazil.


Black ones?

Sorry. But the only thing that matters down there is how dark your skin is.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:13 AM (zK4uf)

123 Old Abe was eventually forced to kowtow to the Abolitionists, who were every bit as radical as today's Wokerati. They worshipped unlimited federal gub'mint.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at May 01, 2021 11:13 AM (W4eKo)

124 In before the catastrophic calamitous caggey raggey shitta phagey ass clown shoes known as
RayKon...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2021 11:13 AM (pAjZN)

125 120 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:13 AM (44/1o)

With the added caveat that the only ethnicity not allowed to have a homeland or think racial thoughts is western europeans.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:13 AM (Lzpvj)

126 Isn't the caste system alive and well in India also?

Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at May 01, 2021 11:14 AM (UUBmN)

127 Sorry. But the only thing that matters down there is how dark your skin is.
Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:13 AM (zK4uf)

It's twue, it's twue!!

Posted by: Lilli von Shtupp at May 01, 2021 11:14 AM (jvt6t)

128 Race-hysteria is just the best lever that leftist agitators have found to erode social cohesion. What makes it so effective is the number of useful idiots out there who will buy into that bullshit agitprop to signal their empathy and tolerance.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 11:14 AM (fLVm1)

129 >>Old Abe was eventually forced to kowtow to the Abolitionists, who were every bit as radical as today's Wokerati. They worshipped unlimited federal gub'mint.


The Southern Butthurt will Rise Again.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:14 AM (zK4uf)

130 122 Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:13 AM (zK4uf)

As opposed to here, where evidently your melanin content determines your moral worthiness and destiny judicially, professionally, and spiritually these days?

Again not my experience, limited though it is.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:15 AM (Lzpvj)

131 >> Isn't the caste system alive and well in India also?


Hell yeah.
Similar thing in S.Am. : The Indians/Natives are essentially untouchables.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:15 AM (zK4uf)

132 Visit Mexico City, if you dare. The shot callers have lots of blonde hair and green or blue eyes. The indigineous indian tribes? not so much.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:17 AM (jvt6t)

133 And the Mexican food sucks.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:17 AM (jvt6t)

134 Name one country LESS racist than the USA???
**taps foot** I'm waiting.....in vain...

Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at May 01, 2021 11:17 AM (UUBmN)

135 >>As opposed to here, where evidently your melanin content determines your moral worthiness and destiny judicially, professionally, and spiritually these days?


Don't take my word for it.
Look into it and you will see that every city in S. America is a nucleus of Anglos surrounded by a cell of dark skinned people that gets darker the further out fro the center you get.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:17 AM (zK4uf)

136 Visit Chins. The most racist society on Earth.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 11:17 AM (fLVm1)

137 Or China. Whatevzs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 11:18 AM (fLVm1)

138 Chins has some lovely B&B's......

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:18 AM (jvt6t)

139 The underclasses of foreign countries are who is coming here illegally, the moneyed get her legally with years in the process.

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 11:19 AM (Cxk7w)

140 To quote my Mexican Industrialist clients from Mexico City :

'It's a safe place. Just don't get caught in any neighborhood where you are the lightest skinned person and you will be fine.'

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:19 AM (zK4uf)

141 133 And the Mexican food sucks.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:17 AM (jvt6t)

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Actual Chinese food is disgusting. It took America to make it edible.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 11:19 AM (fLVm1)

142 >>Actual Chinese food is disgusting. It took America to make it edible.


You take tht back!

Posted by: 1000 Year Egg at May 01, 2021 11:20 AM (zK4uf)

143 Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:19 AM (zK4uf)

There's no escaping the shoe shine boys or Mariachi Bands.....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:20 AM (jvt6t)

144 >>There's no escaping the shoe shine boys or Mariachi Bands.....


'Chicle!'

'Chicle, Senor?'

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:20 AM (zK4uf)

145 Mexican industrialist clients- What do you do?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 11:21 AM (PUmDY)

146 >>Mexican industrialist clients- What do you do?


Fishing Guide.

Owned a Tackle and Rod Company for a while, too.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:21 AM (zK4uf)

147 Fly fishing?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 11:23 AM (PUmDY)

148 Visit Chins. The most racist society on Earth.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021

Reminds me of a "yo mamma" joke about a Chinese phonebook.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 01, 2021 11:23 AM (OssQ4)

149 'Chicle!'

'Chicle, Senor?'
Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:20 AM (zK4uf)

LMAO

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:24 AM (jvt6t)

150 Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:20 AM (zK4uf)


Taxi? You wanna go up the hill?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:24 AM (jvt6t)

151 32 I had American History in the 9th grade and deTocqueville was required reading. Bet that doesn't happen anymore.
Posted by: Only Context at May 01, 2021 10:35 AM (xEIoY)

Same here.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 01, 2021 11:24 AM (Fs5vw)

152 "Alexis de Tokeville" would be a decent enough name for a bong, if anyone's trying to come up with one.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2021 11:25 AM (t+qrx)

153 Reading? hahaha

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:25 AM (44/1o)

154 >Fly fishing?


Yes. Also have some guitar clients down there...but they are all musicians and tend to be Libs.

The fishing clients had NO compunctions about telling it like it is.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:26 AM (zK4uf)

155 You got no idea of Mariachi music until you work near Mexican or other workers, it's polka music that every song sounds same. A good English speaking guy told me once it's really drinking music.
And its all day every day, no courtesy of someone else has music first.

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 11:26 AM (Cxk7w)

156 >>Taxi? You wanna go up the hill?


I do.

But first I need to find some packs of expired Duracells.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:27 AM (zK4uf)

157 It IS amazing how much Mexicans love a polka.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2021 11:27 AM (zK4uf)

158 Mystery meat buffets

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 11:28 AM (PUmDY)

159 I read something not too long ago describing how yes, it really is polka music that came from the Germanic folks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:28 AM (44/1o)

160 Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 11:26 AM (Cxk7w)

Every time a group of us would cross the river and hit the bars, no matter where we stopped, the tejano music stopped and Hotel California was immediately playing. I got so sick of that song.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:28 AM (jvt6t)

161 FWIW, "All Smiles and Mariachi" is a good non-mariachi song. I'm not entirely sure if it's about a male hooker or just a guy meeting lots of womenses.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:29 AM (44/1o)

162 Napoleon XIV > Napoleon III

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 01, 2021 11:29 AM (R/m4+)

163 Sign up for my course at Tulane. I'll teach you all about Tokeville.

Posted by: HUnter B at May 01, 2021 11:29 AM (vN+oL)

164 Mexicali blues

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 11:29 AM (PUmDY)

165 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:29 AM (44/1o)

Narcocorrido tunes are all the rage these days.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:31 AM (jvt6t)

166 >>>They worshipped unlimited federal gub'mint.
Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby
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And graft, lots of graft.
Down South they were known as carpetbaggers.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2021 11:32 AM (OT5RV)

167 Ring of Fire as well

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 11:32 AM (PUmDY)

168 They are not a racial dystopia.

Posted by: sven at May 01, 2021 11:07 AM (Lzpvj)

Yeah, they really are. To be white in Brazil is to be in danger. To top it off, their government makes New York and New Jersey look competent and honest.

This info comes from my Brother-in-law (a pale skinned redhead) and his wife (originally from Brazil but now a US citizen) and their attempt to move there from New York city.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 01, 2021 11:32 AM (1lKRm)

169 Every time a group of us would cross the river and hit the bars, no matter where we stopped, the tejano music stopped and Hotel California was immediately playing. I got so sick of that song.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:28 AM (jvt6t)

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I'm betting Henley, Felder and Frey didn't get a royalty from that performance.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 01, 2021 11:32 AM (fLVm1)

170 FWIW, "All Smiles and Mariachi" is a good non-mariachi song. I'm not entirely sure if it's about a male hooker or just a guy meeting lots of womenses.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:29 AM (44/1o)

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It is, how do you say, a wistful take on the life of the Paolo.

Posted by: The Paolo at May 01, 2021 11:33 AM (fLVm1)

171 Probably two of the reasons for the utter refusal to give up on the mask thing..1) if the masses ever fully internalize that the whole Covid thing was an op, the "elite" will be in a huge mess that they won't be able to control. So the "threat" has to continue. 2) for whatever reason they want to use Biden as their figurehead, and the masks make it easier to display doubles when Biden isn't having a good day and yet needs to be seen. Of course, this is discounting what I really think, that this is all just a movie to turn the masses away from "leftism" or whatever term you wish to use to describe the establishment.

Posted by: azjaeger at May 01, 2021 11:35 AM (3/XaG)

172 Joey B. greatest resident since FDR.
12 licks, no Joey, not licks, likes it's likes
put your tongue back in your mouth.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2021 11:35 AM (OT5RV)

173 Every time I read about Joey the house begins to smell like the exhaust from a '57 Chrysler.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2021 11:37 AM (OT5RV)

174 Charlie Robison - New Years Day

tinyurl.com/ys2y85zr

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:37 AM (jvt6t)

175 Yeah, they really are. To be white in Brazil is to be in danger. To top it off, their government makes New York and New Jersey look competent and honest.

This info comes from my Brother-in-law (a pale skinned redhead) and his wife (originally from Brazil but now a US citizen) and their attempt to move there from New York city.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 01, 2021 11:32 AM (1lKRm)


Ceteris parabus, how would they rate NYC vs its equivalent (Rio? Sao Paulo?) as a place to live? Assuming 2021 NYC for the comparison.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2021 11:38 AM (t+qrx)

176 3 Interesting in that we are still following the French lead, even today. Well, maybe. Our military leadership is all in on the repression.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 10:21 AM (jvt6t)
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Poll says 80% of the French people agree with the generals.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2021 11:39 AM (OT5RV)

177 (looks up Narcocorrido)

Holy cow.

But I have to admit I like old country and bluegrass murder ballads, so I can't say too much.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:40 AM (44/1o)

178 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:40 AM (44/1o)

And a lot of those guys have been murdered over the years by cartels they weren't loyal to.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:41 AM (jvt6t)

179 Los lobos is a great band that has stayed together all these years

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 11:42 AM (PUmDY)

180 Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 11:42 AM (PUmDY)

Yep. Seen 'em a couple of times.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:44 AM (jvt6t)

181 I've mentioned it before, but Los Lobos does a cover of Tom Waits' "Jockey Full of Bourbon" that I sometimes enjoy more than the original.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:44 AM (44/1o)

182 Did someone say "narcocorridos"?

https://youtu.be/ZxeYvgfqZKQ

Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2021 11:46 AM (1Yy3c)

183 Saw Los Lobos in Austin, pre-commie days. Great show.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 01, 2021 11:50 AM (W4eKo)

184
The Deep State was born in a log cabin.
Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at May 01, 2021 11:07 AM (W4eKo)

I like that. I'm stealing it.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 01, 2021 11:50 AM (Fs5vw)

185 Did somebody already mention the Wedding March? I think that is from Tristan and Isolde.

My favorite version? By Queen from the Flash Gordon movie.

Posted by: InCali at May 01, 2021 11:51 AM (ov5G+)

186
"narcocorridos" sounds like some gummy edible you'd get at the dispensary head shop...tequila infused, THC laden gummies, shaped like little sombreros

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 01, 2021 11:52 AM (DUIap)

187

fail!

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 01, 2021 11:52 AM (DUIap)

188 159 I read something not too long ago describing how yes, it really is polka music that came from the Germanic folks.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 11:28 AM (44/1o)


Colombian folk music is very much German.

Posted by: Justsayin' at May 01, 2021 11:55 AM (Fs5vw)

189 Looked it up - "Bridal Chorus" from Lohengrin.

Posted by: InCali at May 01, 2021 11:56 AM (ov5G+)

190 I read something not too long ago describing how yes, it really is polka music that came from the Germanic folks.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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This too is the history of Texas!

Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at May 01, 2021 11:56 AM (UUBmN)

191 Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2021 11:46 AM (1Yy3c)

Classic.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 11:57 AM (jvt6t)

192 Nick Fruentes, Hispanic *white supremacist* put on a Federal No Fly list.


I hear that Tree of Liberty again. It is really thirsty.

Posted by: Loki, looking to water the Tree of Liberty at May 01, 2021 11:58 AM (KqiMr)

193 May 1st, May Day (or Mayday!!!) is a great day to donate to Ace, for multiple reasons. I just did. Won't you?

Posted by: DZouave at May 01, 2021 12:00 PM (M3pDV)

194 I hear that Tree of Liberty again. It is really thirsty.

Parched.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 01, 2021 12:00 PM (W4eKo)

195 Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at May 01, 2021 11:56 AM (UUBmN)

Yep. From all the Germans and Czechs that landed at Indianola in the 1850's. Big influence.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 12:02 PM (jvt6t)

196 Send $100 ASAP so Liz Cheney and I can stop the radical liberal takeover of America.

Love,
Mitch

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 01, 2021 12:02 PM (H2Cj+)

197 I've got the Joe Joe Joe Joe down in my heart
(Where?)
Down in my heart
(Where?)
Down in my heart

Posted by: Typical Liberal at May 01, 2021 12:02 PM (VVEnO)

198 Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2021 11:38 AM (t+qrx)

Post 2020 NYC? No idea. This was about 4 years ago. They only made it a year partially because my sister-in-law was terrified every time my B-i-L left the house. They've been in Colorado since then and I haven't asked what they thought of what was going on in New York now.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 01, 2021 12:03 PM (1lKRm)

199 There is a small Lincoln museum by Washington Park, in Quincy, IL. There was a Lincoln Douglas debate there (and a big Tea Party rally with Breitbart, 2012 or so)

Lincoln was against slavery pretty early, but in my sketchy view, it was the "industrialists" that drove the tax codes, and other policy that favored BigBiz. The urgency to keep the country together may have been a motive, but just comparing to how things go today (DeepState runs things covertly, for their profit/control) ... it does seem (as Trump has said) that it could have happened without such a terrible war.


Slavery is the better storyline, which schools in the Land of Lincoln certainly taught. But if there was a DeepState even then, getting rid of (most) state rights/authority was certainly useful for them, and as we see now, bad for the sovereignty of the individual, and of the states.

Much of the "heart and soul" that was beaten down in the South was more about that sovereignty, than about fighting to keep slaves (except for the deep state, Southern version powers in the south that had slaves)

Posted by: illiniwek at May 01, 2021 12:04 PM (Cus5s)

200 from what I've read about Sao Paolo, the only close equivalent are the urban landscapes in the Judge Dredd movies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 01, 2021 12:06 PM (bxPTJ)

201 Its funny that the uneducated liberal blue check marks who drone on about inequality also praise LatAm culture. You have not seen inequality until you spend some time in Sao Paolo or Mexico City.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 01, 2021 12:06 PM (H2Cj+)

202 Leftists believe none of the shit they spout. None.

They are liars without shame.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 01, 2021 12:08 PM (yQpMk)

203 Send $100 ASAP so Liz Cheney and I can stop the radical liberal takeover of America.

Love,
Mitch



250X Match for the next two hours!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 01, 2021 12:09 PM (yQpMk)

204 I have a friend who is married to a Mexican woman from Guadalajara. She is tall blonde and would easily be mistaken for being Swedish. And from what he has told me her family lives in a neighborhood that would not look out of place in any American suburb. And also a couple of. Miles away from poverty an American. Would have a hard time comprehending. It is all gated with armed security. That is life for the middle and upper middle classes in Latin America.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 01, 2021 12:09 PM (H2Cj+)

205 You suck.

Posted by: spicoli at May 01, 2021 12:11 PM (E0OEG)

206 Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 01, 2021 12:09 PM (yQpMk)

I keep patiently waiting for karma to show up, but it never does.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 12:11 PM (jvt6t)

207 I lost my mojo.

Posted by: Instant Karma at May 01, 2021 12:16 PM (W4eKo)

208 I lost my emoji.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 01, 2021 12:22 PM (VVEnO)

209 Those replies by the leftist idiots on that FB post are depressing as hell. We are literally living in two different worlds.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 01, 2021 12:28 PM (O+I8R)

210 I'm really grateful for Stephen Green's drunkblog.

Posted by: m at May 01, 2021 12:29 PM (Y3SPi)

211 I could take a nap

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 12:29 PM (Cxk7w)

212 203 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MITT ROMNEY at May 01, 2021 12:08 PM (Pzzpr)

Can we keep this one?

Posted by: m at May 01, 2021 12:30 PM (Y3SPi)

213 No Fly list

PAPERS!! VHERE ARE YOUR PAPERS!!
TRAVEL IST VERBOTEN!!

Posted by: Don't get around much anymore at May 01, 2021 12:36 PM (TAoGd)

214 Was waiting for the any minute now garden thread but better get outside cleaning up wind debris.

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 12:36 PM (Cxk7w)

215 210 Those replies by the leftist idiots on that FB post are depressing as hell. We are literally living in two different worlds.
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 01, 2021 12:28 PM (O+I8R)

It is a religion. But as they progress further into whiteness is evil many are going to discover it is one without salvation. The question is how many will take the final glass of Kool-aid by choice to "atone" and how many will discover they have enabled a system that will make them take it by force.

Posted by: Bete at May 01, 2021 12:38 PM (Ojki1)

216 It is a religion. But as they progress further into whiteness is evil many are going to discover it is one without salvation. The question is how many will take the final glass of Kool-aid by choice to "atone" and how many will discover they have enabled a system that will make them take it by force.
Posted by: Bete at May 01, 2021 12:38 PM (Ojki1)

Flavor Aid is cheaper and tastes better too!

Posted by: Zombie Jim Jones, democrat activist at May 01, 2021 12:41 PM (R/m4+)

217 Flavor Aid is cheaper and tastes better too!
Posted by: Zombie Jim Jones, democrat activist at May 01, 2021 12:41 PM (R/m4+)

I beg to differ.....

Posted by: Jim Jones at May 01, 2021 12:42 PM (jvt6t)

218 nood garden

Posted by: m at May 01, 2021 12:42 PM (Y3SPi)

219 That was a pitiful self own.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 12:42 PM (jvt6t)

220 Don't bother reading responses by Leftists in social media. It's all astroturfing. Fake, fake, fake
The ratio on all Creepy Joe's video prove it, even while YouTube manipulates the numbers to tryt to hide the utter contempt people have for a senile puppet.

I'm fully convinced YouTube, Twitter and Fakebook run the most impressive astroturfing & gaslighting in the web's history. Nothing is real. Media Matters army of paid trolls flood the web 24/7. It's the legacy of Hussein Saetoro.

Posted by: nobody at May 01, 2021 12:45 PM (xXLud)

221 I'm not joking when I say that whatever steroids and other chemicals they use on him have to be making him run hot. The trade-off with engines is they don't last as long.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 10:57 AM (44/1o)

Wasn't there a rumor that Keith Richards had to have a 10 or 15 quart blood transfusion so he'd be clean enough to risk being blood tested for the presence of narcotics before entering this country? Or was that Jagger?

Posted by: Fox2! at May 01, 2021 12:48 PM (qyH+l)

222 220 That was a pitiful self own.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 01, 2021 12:42 PM (jvt6t)

Nah.

Posted by: m at May 01, 2021 12:50 PM (Y3SPi)

223 "Media Matters army of paid trolls flood the web 24/7. It's the legacy of Hussein Saetoro."


True ... there are some Karens that join in, but the volume and the hardline leftist messaging is "Astroturf" ... they flood every site that might attract normal people, make comments unusable.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 01, 2021 12:59 PM (Cus5s)

224 blood tested for the presence of narcotics before entering this country?

Harsh Times, 2005.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 01, 2021 01:02 PM (EFCBR)

225 A few years ago, I read de Tocqueville as something to do on MUNI (S.F.'s pubtrans) since I didn't have a tablet and there was no cell service below ground. It was a good, and interesting, read, but a lot of it depends on historical context -- and linguistic context -- that you need to have to truly appreciate what he wrote. I also started Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations", which is very well-written and quite understandable, but very long. Of course, I have the small (HxW) paperback and the larger paperback wouldn't be as thick.

Posted by: SFGoth at May 01, 2021 01:10 PM (KAi1n)

226 illiniwek at May 01, 2021 12:59 PM

I think my social media commenters are real people. This guy does not post a lot of political content. They really think this way.

Posted by: KT at May 01, 2021 01:10 PM (BVQ+1)

227 But haven't you heard? Letting people keep their own money (tax cuts) is a cost to the govt. Because the govt apparently owns the money that people and businesses make and therefore letting people keep more of that money is a cost to the govt.

Posted by: Daniel J Kunkle at May 01, 2021 01:23 PM (bkqDH)

228 Bob Wills was a bad ass

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 01:25 PM (PUmDY)

229 I have never actually heard someone reference historical and linguistic context as requirements for de Tocqueville. The original translation is tortured a bit but not many have ever seen that version. Generally he wrote quite simply so the best translations have that feel. As for history, it's best I think to approach it as he did and just take his observations in, then contrast them with your own experience or knowledge. It's a wonderfully approachable and important book, I always get agita when people have difficulty with it.

Posted by: Only Context at May 01, 2021 01:29 PM (xEIoY)

230 There are a lot of walking talking dildos clutching their blankies out there in Progressive land.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 01, 2021 01:39 PM (NVDjf)

231 212 203 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MITT ROMNEY at May 01, 2021 12:08 PM (Pzzpr)

Can we keep this one?
Posted by: m

No

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at May 01, 2021 01:43 PM (UIHSQ)

232 Too much soy. Penis soyeded syndrome. Extreme like spilt blood adversition.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 01, 2021 01:47 PM (EFCBR)

233 "I think my social media commenters are real people. This guy does not post a lot of political content. They really think this way." Posted by: KT


yes, sadly, I have some old friends that seemed normal "back in the day". Have engaged them on Facebook comments a couple times .. and I was rather shocked that they were full blown Karens ... sad. ... But at sites like The Atlantic, imo a lot of the volume is Astroturf ... using stale talking points. In China I think they call them the fifty cent army ... (paid fifty cents per post or some such)

Posted by: illiniwek at May 01, 2021 01:51 PM (Cus5s)

234 illiniwek at May 01, 2021 01:51 PM

I agree. At sites like that, the astroturf is heavy.

Posted by: KT at May 01, 2021 01:59 PM (BVQ+1)

235 "I have never actually heard someone reference historical and linguistic context as requirements for de Tocqueville. [ ] it's best I think to approach it as he did and just take his observations in, then contrast them with your own experience or knowledge. It's a wonderfully approachable and important book, I always get agita when people have difficulty with it."
Posted by: Only Context

You basically took what I said out of context and bastardized it, which is ironic given that your nic is "only context". If you understand (i.e., interpret) what he wrote through your own knowledge of existing institutions and stuff, you won't know what he meant within the context of what he wrote. By contrast, Adam Smith avoids all that as he breaks down his concepts and explains them in a way that easily transcends time and circumstances.

Posted by: SFGoth at May 01, 2021 02:08 PM (KAi1n)

236 Adam Smith avoids all that as he breaks down his concepts and explains them in a way that easily transcends time and circumstances.
Posted by: SFGoth

I like cosmological events like now.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 01, 2021 02:12 PM (EFCBR)

237 I like cosmological events like now.
Posted by: humphreyrobot

You're constant.

Posted by: SFGoth at May 01, 2021 02:14 PM (KAi1n)

238 No I didn't asshole and you are clearly too prickly to understand a gentle guide to an approach to a work I have spent some time in my life studying. Probably should go back on the weed doll face.

Posted by: Only Context at May 01, 2021 02:18 PM (xEIoY)

239 "Train wreck like Trump's speech..." What a load of putrid crap. Trump's 2020 SOTU Speech was fabulous. Positive, bright, inspiring, confident. The hag Pelousi tearing up her copy was a thing of sheer frustration, and indicative of just how effective and wonderful the speech was.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at May 01, 2021 02:20 PM (cjlB3)

240 read stupid archaeologist and he was Projecting racism inequality bla bla in every sentence about culture 1500 years ago.

Various cultures come and go. We are equal but cultures are not.

Unless you want to say life and death are equal. But you guys already know all that. Mainly maybe FBI agents will feel guilty.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 01, 2021 02:24 PM (EFCBR)

241 broken pottery.I smell racism.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 01, 2021 02:32 PM (EFCBR)

242 Most weren't racist. They just wanted cheap effective slaves.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 01, 2021 02:35 PM (EFCBR)

243 Loneliness time at AoSHq, ought to finish this paint round and a Russian movie been watching.

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2021 02:58 PM (Cxk7w)

244 228 Bob Wills was a bad ass
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 01, 2021 01:25 PM (PUmDY)
-----------

Contrast what he was doing vs other hillbilly music or other blues and swing.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2021 03:03 PM (9izxS)

245 my indian name and Chinese name mean the same thing.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 01, 2021 03:04 PM (EFCBR)

246 in the 30s & 40s

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2021 03:05 PM (9izxS)

247 read stupid archaeologist and he was Projecting racism inequality bla bla in every sentence about culture 1500 years ago.

***

Yep, it's true.

The US tried something different, but y'all brought it back.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 03:15 PM (44/1o)

248 No I didn't asshole and you are clearly too prickly to understand a gentle guide to an approach to a work I have spent some time in my life studying. Probably should go back on the weed doll face.
Posted by: Only Context

Irony, hyperbole, lack of self-awareness, defensiveness - the only thing it lacks is iambic pentameter. LOL, I'll take your vitriol as confirmation of my post.

Posted by: SFGoth at May 01, 2021 03:17 PM (KAi1n)

249 You can say a lot of things about Trump, but "he didn't love ALL Americans" would never be one of them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 01, 2021 03:18 PM (44/1o)

250 I liken punk slit the throat of heavy metal so the blood would feed garage bands and more heavy metal.

Politically I don't know. Many like socialism. Me, I don't want to stand in line for nothing, know body. Ah,little did I know The Evil That Men Do, but I saw the movie

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 01, 2021 03:22 PM (EFCBR)

251 Gosh, World demands that I move and talk normal.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 01, 2021 03:27 PM (EFCBR)

252 From Barcolle to Best Arias to Best of Opera.
What a day.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2021 03:52 PM (zVpyY)

253 Barcarolle

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2021 03:56 PM (zVpyY)

254 Name one country LESS racist than the USA???
**taps foot** I'm waiting.....in vain...
---
Yes,all whites outside the uS are evil.
CRT is just the anti-white hatred of white civnats turned on white civnats. Your entire country is a colonial project and no matter how much you incite hatred of other white countries you will never free yourselves from your genetics .
You can't say you don't have it coming.

Posted by: Felix Clapper at May 01, 2021 05:47 PM (ewIuJ)

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