Morning Rant - Special Guest Ranter [Weasel]

In a little over 45 days, we face what is arguably the most important election of our lifetimes. The most important, that is, until the next election, and then the one after that. The truth is there are no longer any unimportant elections. Accepting the status-quo and settling for whatever happens is how we came to find ourselves at the edge of the abyss. There is no more slack in the system, and no more room for error. The next misstep could well be our last.

Who is to blame? It is all too easy to simply fault the left, but rather more difficult to acknowledge we deserve at least some of the credit for the mess we're in. Quite a bit of the credit, actually. The change has been slow and insidious but right there in the open for all to see, beginning with the infiltration and corruption of the institutions of Western civilization in general, and those of the United States, in particular. The family, church, community, education, entertainment, media, and our judicial and political systems; all have been under assault for years. Aberrant practices and behaviors were first normalized and then glorified. Absurdities of logic have become commonplace and celebrated. Normalcy is now ridiculed, and merely sharing the cultural landscape is no longer good enough. Mere acceptance falls short and now only a complete submission to the ideals of the left is tolerated. Equality is a quaint notion when the left seeks to impose their bizarre notions of society through complete totalitarian control. This is the new reality. Our new reality.

Once the fundamental institutions defining a nation are weakened or destroyed, the fate of its culture is almost assured. This was not an accident, and we watched it happen. You think we're voting our way out of these circumstances at this point in the game? Think again. Today we are at best treading water. Will we recognize ourselves in 25 years?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:00 AM

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1 st?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2020 11:01 AM (hYcqw)

2 Why is this empty?

Posted by: Carpe Manana at September 18, 2020 11:01 AM (PbH71)

3 Morning all

Posted by: It's me donna at September 18, 2020 11:01 AM (Zmnko)

4 Or almost empty.

Posted by: Carpe Manana at September 18, 2020 11:01 AM (PbH71)

5 J. Fred Murrow!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 18, 2020 11:01 AM (wPVhA)

6
The only solution is either a two-state solution or else the Left will impose a Final Solution on us.

Us or them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 18, 2020 11:01 AM (s2VJv)

7 And.
So.

It begins.

Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (Rk6Cp)

8 Fuck the left.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (gJBE5)

9

Starting Sunday, downloads of the massively popular video app TikTok and the messaging app WeChat will be banned in the United States, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced Friday morning.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (63Dwl)

10 Spot on, Weasel.

In a little over 45 days, we face what is arguably the most important election of our lifetimes. The most important, that is, until the next election, and then the one after that. The truth is there are no longer any unimportant elections. Accepting the status-quo and settling for whatever happens is how we came to find ourselves at the edge of the abyss. There is no more slack in the system, and no more room for error. The next misstep could well be our last.

I absolutely agree, though I put it slightly differently. I put this as "the next election where the Democrats make significant national gains and/or win the presidency is the last election that ever mattered."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (hYcqw)

11 Will we recognize ourselves in 25 years?

I'll prolly be dead,
so most likely not.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (W2Pud)

12 You said guest cob.... weasel is not a guest. He lives here too!

Posted by: lin-duh en nui! at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (pnA/u)

13 With 999 more monkeys and 999 more typewriters, they could type out a Shakespeare play. I read that somewhere.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 18, 2020 11:03 AM (wPVhA)

14 Chatter again, how do Mr. Weasel?

Posted by: Cheriebebe at September 18, 2020 11:03 AM (pGrg3)

15 The only solution is either a two-state solution or else the Left will impose a Final Solution on us.

Us or them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Your terms are acceptable. Them it is.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:03 AM (gJBE5)

16 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at September 18, 2020 11:03 AM (/iNEm)

17 In the late 90s the left co-opted the Republican party and turned it into controlled opposition. And we see the results today as the left puts no bounds on itself.

Seriously if you described the current state of America to a far leftwing activist in say 2000 they'd be amazed at how far they've come and probably not believe some of the things that they've achieved are things they even wanted...

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 18, 2020 11:04 AM (qlFIA)

18 Could of been first. Read the content.

Posted by: Cosda at September 18, 2020 11:04 AM (HNACU)

19 Who to blame? That's easy.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 18, 2020 11:04 AM (Rx19P)

20
When are we gonna get a guest orangutan for "Murder in the Rue Morning Rant"?

Posted by: naturalfake at September 18, 2020 11:04 AM (EERbD)

21 Could of been first. Read the content.
Posted by: Cosda at September 18, 2020 11:04 AM (HNACU)

Sucker!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (tsZQ+)

22
Starting Sunday, downloads of the massively popular video app TikTok and the messaging app WeChat will be banned in the United States, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced Friday morning.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (63Dwl)

Can you hear the screams of the 15 year olds?

Posted by: Jen the original at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (BPeHW)

23 Ana Navarro is on The Spew, and the coven starts out praising Biden to the skies.

I'm sure they'll be totally respectful to Kim Klacik.

*eyeroll*

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (ptqGC)

24 Willowed:
I don't care about any flags other than the US one. If you present it, I just ask that you do it respectfully (lit at night, no other flags higher, etc.). ...
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 18, 2020 10:58 AM (NKuIh)
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When I lived in Ithaca, NY (major college town), I saw something that made me shake my head over the stupid disrepect. It was a flagpole in someone's yard that had three flags. From the bottom to the top:
- The NY state flag
- The American flag
- The flag of the United Nations

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (hYcqw)

25 But, but, but......I was told by Ben Mankowitz (or whatever) on TCM last evening that there were never any commies in Hollywood and the Red Scare was a big, fat fraud!

BTW, Who Dis? is Nancy Travis and Jeff Bridges from The Vanishing. I don't think pic 4 is her, though.

What do I win?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (dfRN6)

26 One big thing in our favor is that the Left's ruling class is all aging out of the game. Biden, Nancy, Bernie, Hillary, and a host of others - this is the last election where they still have a chance of playing a role. After this, they're tapping out.

I've never before imagined a movement run by such a geriatric leadership.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

27 The only solution is either a two-state solution or else the Left will impose a Final Solution on us.

Us or them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Your terms are acceptable. Them it is.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:03 AM (gJBE5)

Yup, them. Its been written.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (9Om/r)

28 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

29 Well said, Weasel.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (wPVhA)

30 Is Weasel the same that runs weaselzippers?

Similar chimp motifs.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

31 Alas, the monkey is correct on all counts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (xT2tT)

32
Back when NBC's "Today" refused to employ journalists who had ridden on the short bus for all of their lives.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (pNxlR)

33 Can you hear the screams of the 15 year olds?
Posted by: Jen the original at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (BPeHW)

No I had 2 15 year old girls and I learned to ignore that sound

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (tsZQ+)

34
*Chimp*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (EGyGV)

35 Meggie Mac thinks Biden did GREAT last night.

Okay, NeverTrump.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (ptqGC)

36 Negotiation doesn't work when your opponent wants you dead. We need to permanently be on war footing, to fight every proposal by the left, no matter how small or apparently insignificant, tooth and nail.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (kA3Cp)

37 I've never before imagined a movement run by such a geriatric leadership.
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Weimar Republic would like to have a talk with you.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (Rx19P)

38 Good rant Weasel, but for many of us politics was a minor side gig for much of our lives.

Now, by force, we have become involved. I never pictured myself toting a sign at Tea Party rallies until it happened.

And not one of my family or friends was there for any of it. And I asked.

But a lot more people are now *woke* to the real dangers. People I know that have never voted, or always voted Dem.

They showed their hands too soon. It almost worked.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (Z4rgH)

39 Fuck the left.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (gJBE5)

Thread winner.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 18, 2020 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

40 Good stuff, weasel.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 18, 2020 11:07 AM (HqDPQ)

41 The Republican Party has always just been a stop gap to the natural progression of a Democracy / Republic to destroy itself. Modern advances have expedited the process.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 18, 2020 11:07 AM (PxTjI)

42
I've never before imagined a movement run by such a geriatric leadership.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

Fight us!

-- Del Boca Vista's HOA Board

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2020 11:07 AM (pNxlR)

43
From the infantile geniuses at Yahoo:

Whose voters are 'hidden' in polling data? 'Shy' Biden voters may actually outnumber Trump's

In fact, new data from the latest Yahoo News/YouGov poll suggests that shy Biden voters may now be more plentiful than shy Trump voters. Biden voters, on the other hand, tend to live in more politically diverse areas, with a much smaller number (44 percent) saying that all or most of their neighbors will vote for the Democratic nominee.

Politically diverse? Like California, New York, Illinois. That kind of politically diverse? I'll bet all of those "shy Biden voters" will vote by mail days after the election is over.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 18, 2020 11:07 AM (3ki8c)

44 42
I've never before imagined a movement run by such a geriatric leadership.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

Fight us!

-- Del Boca Vista's HOA Board
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Snort.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (Rx19P)

45 In the long term, we're all dead commie homos.

Posted by: John Kenneth Gailbraith at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (sWM8x)

46 I've never before imagined a movement run by such a geriatric leadership.
Posted by: Tom Servo

--

Too young to remember the revolving door of Politburo leadership? Same tenets, too.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (kA3Cp)

47 "Sexual misconduct" is defined in two ways.

1. Making unwanted advances on a female.

2. Refusing advances from a gay man.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (E+OcO)

48 I can't watch another second. These women are evil liars.

Good luck, Ben Domenech. Enjoy your marriage to NeverTrump.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (ptqGC)

49 35 Meggie Mac thinks Biden did GREAT last night.

Okay, NeverTrump.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (ptqGC)

LOl... With an audience of "neutral" voters.. One of which has Biden campaign stuff all over his social media including photos with Joe...And he still sucked

Posted by: It's me donna at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (Zmnko)

50 Hard workin' monkey!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (ejd/p)

51 Things may very well get a whole lot worse with lots of bloodshed before they get better. If Trump wins (please G-D) the left will completely lose their collective shit. This time, however, Trump knows the game and has a hint of the depths to which the left will sink to attempt to undo the will of WE THE PEOPLE. I don't think he will play gently again, this time there will be mass arrests on federal charges. This time, the DOJ will be ordered to go after the financiers and other abettors for RICO, sedition, treason, etc. If we can prove Chy-nahs involvement, that is an act of war, those who assist Chy-nah are then, by definition, treasonous and should be hanged. . . . .or shot, their choice.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (JNTt1)

52 One big thing in our favor is that the Left's ruling class is all aging out of the game. Biden, Nancy, Bernie, Hillary, and a host of others - this is the last election where they still have a chance of playing a role. After this, they're tapping out.

I've never before imagined a movement run by such a geriatric leadership.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

How old Is sneering Chuck Schumer?

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (lgiXo)

53 Negotiation doesn't work when your opponent wants you dead. We need to permanently be on war footing, to fight every proposal by the left, no matter how small or apparently insignificant, tooth and nail.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (kA3Cp)

And we're just the guys to do it.

Posted by: Your GOPe, Capitulating Gracefully Since 1929 at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (wPVhA)

54 Meggie Mac thinks Biden did GREAT last night.

Okay, NeverTrump.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (ptqGC)

She also thinks the Triple Cheeseburger Diet works.

At least she is predictable.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (Z4rgH)

55 And I'd argue the specific event that launched us down this path is when Bill Clinton took information from the FBI files to leak that Newt Gingrich and his chosen successor were both having affairs - yes this was enough to end a Republican's political career in the 90s.

Who was the person that stepped into the House Speaker role after this operation? Dennis, the pedophile, Hastert - who the left knew at the time was a pedophile.

And that it why the Republican party because controlled opposition - the left had perfect blackmail material on the most powerful Republican in Washington and used it.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (qlFIA)

56 The changes in education gall me the most. I think back to my grade school in the 60's and early 70's. Principal was a USMC WWII vet with a glass eye and a hook on the end of 1 arm courtesy of Tojo. 5th grade teacher served with Patton in North Africa. 6th grade teacher served with the doggies in Korea. Add those guys to my family and its no wonder I am how I am. How can kids today overcome the indoctrination they are subjected to by Union Karens, Military hating Jodys, and Andi-tifas of indeterminate gender?

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (sjdRT)

57 That's one astute monkeyweasel.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:09 AM (NWiLs)

58 "Who is to blame?"

Demographic cage. That is all.

We traded in the population we had for a new one.

See "Body Snatchers, Invasion of the"

Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 11:09 AM (Cssks)

59 I feel for Kim Klacik. The knives are out.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:09 AM (ptqGC)

60
How old Is sneering Chuck Schumer?
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (lgiXo)

70

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 18, 2020 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)

61 We let Abortion come and did nothing, because it was easier to do nothing. Then we let Gay Marriage become the law and did nothing, because oh what the hell. Then we let mental illness and transvestites become celebrated, because well this isn't the hill to die on. And now it's Pedophilia, celebrated and out in the open.

Is this the Hill to Die On? Yeah, for me it is. It's also the Hill to Kill for, if it comes to that. With no doubts and no hesitation.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:09 AM (Kpl3J)

62 58

sb "demographic change"

Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 11:09 AM (Cssks)

63 I've never before imagined a movement run by such a geriatric leadership.
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Weimar Republic would like to have a talk with you.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (Rx19P)

What you talkin' 'bout Willis?

Posted by: Marshal Philippe Petain at September 18, 2020 11:09 AM (AiZBA)

64 TL;DR

The Ace is Spades case for woodchippers.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:09 AM (P0ZO8)

65 In the late 90s the left co-opted the Republican party and turned it into controlled opposition. And we see the results today as the left puts no bounds on itself.

The GOP hated the base for imposing Reagan on them and did their best that his type would never rise again. Without the Golden Scalpweasel's financial resources and media insight, I'm not even sure this site would exist now.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 18, 2020 11:09 AM (y7DUB)

66 Negotiation doesn't work when your opponent wants you dead. We need to permanently be on war footing, to fight every proposal by the left, no matter how small or apparently insignificant, tooth and nail.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (kA3Cp)
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It can, even if the opponent wants you dead. Where negotiation *cannot* work by any means - as we learned with the Nazis and the Japanese and the Soviets and the Koreans - is if you share nothing and have zero common ground. If you can't agree on any core premises, you cannot negotiate because there is no congruity in anything about which you care (or for which you will fight and die).

It is thus with the new Left. We share nothing. Not a single core principle is compatible. We disagree on nation states, on representative government, on speech, on faith, on assembly, on borders, on the source of rights, on education, on economic systems - on everything. There is nothing on which we agree, and that is why negotiation will fail.

If someone wants me dead but we agree on some core principles, I *might* be able to find a way out of that. If someone wants me dead and we disagree on everything, however, there is no way out but blood.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (hYcqw)

67
suggests

Always the tell for
"what follows is complete bullshit"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (pNxlR)

68 It's time to think about what a national divorce looks like. Not the best solution, but I believe that we will be the battered wife in this relationship going forward. I am hoping that Trump wins by outside the range of cheating/bitching and whining but after that happens ... The left will probably threaten a NY/NJ/DC right coast split, and a Cali/Oregon/Washington left coast split.
Instead of by state, lets do it by county. If you look at the last electoral maps by county, the blight is limited to small areas which can't sustain themselves. Let the bastards go ... they can't be gone for long as they can't feed themselves without the support of the rest of the world. Let them burn up their own enclaves and bring misery to their supporters. Time to wake up.

Posted by: Mephitis at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (sxNLf)

69 The changes in education gall me the most. I think back to my grade school in the 60's and early 70's. Principal was a USMC WWII vet with a glass eye and a hook on the end of 1 arm courtesy of Tojo. 5th grade teacher served with Patton in North Africa. 6th grade teacher served with the doggies in Korea. Add those guys to my family and its no wonder I am how I am. How can kids today overcome the indoctrination they are subjected to by Union Karens, Military hating Jodys, and Andi-tifas of indeterminate gender?
Posted by: Muad'dib at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (sjdRT)

Yup great point

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (tsZQ+)

70 59 I feel for Kim Klacik. The knives are out.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:09 AM (ptqGC)

She's neither authentically black nor authentically female, and therefore fair game.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (NWiLs)

71 I would like to pose a question to the group, and I apologize if it is off-topic. I read the very enlightening article in the sidebar regarding the unliklihood of widespread ballot manipulation. It appears very reasonable and knowledge-based, but I have a problem with an assumption baked into it.

One idea stuck out to me: the belief that no state wishes to risk not certifying their election results. Why are we so sure?

Pennsylvania (my state) may well vote for Donny T this fall, but the state is currently run by progs. The same could be said of Michigan. What stops these states from undermining the certification of their own election results should Donny T win them? Sort of like taking a winning touchdown off the board "after review."

I can certainly see progressives saying something to the effect of "We cannot guarantee our election process was fair, so we will not certify PA's election results. It's a shame Joe Biden had to win this way." Is there any mechanism to stop this from happening?

Posted by: Willy at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (sPEcG)

72 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (ptqGC)

73 61 We let Abortion come and did nothing, because it was easier to do nothing.
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Everything it driven by cheap labor. Abortion is but part of the push to get women in the workforce.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 18, 2020 11:11 AM (Rx19P)

74 Starting Sunday, downloads of the massively popular video app TikTok and the messaging app WeChat will be banned in the United States, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced Friday morning.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (63Dwl)

Hah! Today is not over, somewhere on the island, a federal judge is happily snoozing away. He'll have his morning coffee (or whatever they drink there), take a dump, maybe rub one out, and the rule that you SHALL NOT interfere with Chi Nah's ability to spy on stupid fool Americans.

Thus it will so be ordered, thus it shall be, for all eternity.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 11:11 AM (hku12)

75 42
I've never before imagined a movement run by such a geriatric leadership.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

Fight us!

-- Del Boca Vista's HOA Board

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2020 11:07 AM (pNxlR)

I LOL'D!!

Posted by: Tami at September 18, 2020 11:11 AM (cF8AT)

76 Too young to remember the revolving door of Politburo leadership? Same tenets, too.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM

The ABCs of Dead Russian Leaders ftw!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 18, 2020 11:11 AM (ejd/p)

77 weasel rant!

Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 11:11 AM (nUhF0)

78 72 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (ptqGC)

The worst part is the high-pressure percussive sensors, that impact the bone and detect the amount of resistance.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:11 AM (NWiLs)

79
She's neither authentically black nor authentically female, and therefore fair game.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (NWiLs)

Aunt Jemima.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 18, 2020 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)

80 72 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (ptqGC)

It's like an MRI only they move you around a lot....from what I remember.

Posted by: Tami at September 18, 2020 11:12 AM (cF8AT)

81 There is no two-state solution with the Left. It's just ceding ground and delaying the inevitable.

Victory or death.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at September 18, 2020 11:12 AM (OUMaO)

82
It's like an MRI only they move you around a lot....from what I remember.
Posted by: Tami at September 18, 2020 11:12 AM (cF8AT)

That's hot.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 18, 2020 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

83 Get out and vote, get your friends, neighbors, sex partners, the hobo under the bridge get everybody and everybody to vote for President Trump and the Republicans.

After this election, next stop is Fist City.

But the country I love when we pick up trash we put it in a garbage can
And that's what the democrats look like to me and what I see is a pity
You'd better close your face and stay out of my way
If you don't wanta go to Fist City......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 18, 2020 11:12 AM (Z+IKu)

84 The worst part is the high-pressure percussive sensors, that impact the bone and detect the amount of resistance.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:11 AM (NWiLs)

I still don't know why a spinal tap is necessary to have the test.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 18, 2020 11:13 AM (PxTjI)

85 It's like an MRI only they move you around a lot....from what I remember.
Posted

Oh great.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:13 AM (ptqGC)

86 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM

They scan your bones to check their density.

Sorry. That's all I got.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 18, 2020 11:13 AM (ejd/p)

87 Democrats are either old, or stupid or Old and stupid.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at September 18, 2020 11:13 AM (lgiXo)

88 sb "demographic change"
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With the racial makeup of the electorate of 1984 Trump would have gotten the same sort of landslide Reagan did in 2016.

As an interesting point to consider - Reagan did poorly with blacks. If Trump is really getting 30% or such of their votes, he would likely be looking at a better 2024 right now then Reagan's 1984 election.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2020 11:13 AM (qlFIA)

89 EMP is the only way to destroy the left. They'd be dead within four days without electricity.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 18, 2020 11:13 AM (Rx19P)

90 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020

*
*

Knowing the Horde, you may regret asking.

Good luck to you, though!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 11:13 AM (Ejm1K)

91 Bone Density Scan= yuuuge needles

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 18, 2020 11:13 AM (HqDPQ)

92 >72
Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (ptqGC)

This video should help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8U4G5kcpcM

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (sjdRT)

93 Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (tsZQ+)

You sound like you need a drink.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (xT2tT)

94 Aberrant practices and behaviors were first normalized and then glorified. Absurdities of logic have become commonplace and celebrated

==

we've been so open-mibded we've let our brains fall out

Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (nUhF0)

95 85 It's like an MRI only they move you around a lot....from what I remember.
Posted

Oh great.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:13 AM (ptqGC)

You lie down and there's a scanner arm over you. It's like an x-ray. They don't put you in a tube or anything. Look up "dexa scan"

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (NWiLs)

96 The worst part is the high-pressure percussive sensors, that impact the bone and detect the amount of resistance.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:11 AM (NWiLs)

Then there's the car battery that they attach to your genitals with wires and clamps.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (wPVhA)

97 Okay. Off to the shower. I can't stomach these View bitches. Hope Klacik holds up well.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (ptqGC)

98 Yeah. You f*ers who kept your heads down when those of us who gathered the courage to speak up in the face of obvious BS 20-25-30 years ago (or more? Less?) were catching crap from our "betters" and ridicule from "the (not so) cool kids", the Narrative, etc. You f*ing doctors, "conservative" doctors who told me that PC culture was nothing to take seriously. That I should laugh at it. That if it bothers me so much, I perhaps needed to see a shrink. F you bastards.

Posted by: WTP at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (95axh)

99 -
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Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM

---------------

Usually she just looks at it and says "Well, YOU'RE happy to see me."

Posted by: irright at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (pMGkg)

100 Kim Klacik was a fool to go on that show. I won't watch it. This idea that you can get attention if you let yourself take a public beating is idiotic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (Kpl3J)

101
Has the quadrennial whining by Eurotrash types started about how they should play a part in the election?

(e.g. Operation Clark County in 2004)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (mht8P)

102 EMP is the only way to destroy the left. They'd be dead within four days without electricity.

Posted by: Puddin Head

Cut off communication, finance, and logistical networks. Defeat in detail.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (OUMaO)

103
I was actually mulling something similar over last night... I mean, whose fault is this, really? Of course, the answer is: the Commies. They're the perps; the grievous crimes belong to them, and their GOP cuck enablers share some of that blame.

But here's the thing... we on the *actual* Right always knew they were criminals. We always knew their plan was to destroy our country and enslave us. We always knew that laws and democracy meant precisely jack and shit to them, and that they couldn't be stopped by Constitutional means. We knew it, and for years we told, and then shouted it at, anyone who'd listen.

When what we should have been doing was organizing to fight them. Street actions, black marias, the whole bit. Future generations will look back on this last 50-or-so years, and say that during the Communist takeover of the American republic, the Right knew and did nothing, and that our eventual physical destruction by the State was partly our own fault.

Like many people say about European Jews in the Holocaust today.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (jbllq)

104
Everything it driven by cheap labor. Abortion is but part of the push to get women in the workforce.

***

Prior to middle class women entering the workforce in mass (working class women had been for a long time), it took one salary to have a house/middle class lifestyle.

Now with women in the workforce it takes two.

Good job everyone! That worked out swell!

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (qlFIA)

105 Typewriter Monkey has the right of it.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (88+cf)

106 35 Meggie Mac thinks Biden did GREAT last night.

Okay, NeverTrump.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (ptqGC)
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Not that hard when they're playing T-ball with him.

Posted by: WisRich at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (G0vdT)

107 JackStraw said on Monday he has it that his week could possibly be exciting RE the deep staters eating shit.

Here's hoping hes correct.

Posted by: Getcha Pull at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (aR6C/)

108 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh

Hot iron slappage.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (gJBE5)

109 Don't they tap all your different bones with a hammer and the ones that fail just weren't dense enough

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (ROLxQ)

110 I can certainly see progressives saying something to the effect of "We cannot guarantee our election process was fair, so we will not certify PA's election results. It's a shame Joe Biden had to win this way." Is there any mechanism to stop this from happening?
Posted by: Willy

--

If they refuse to certify, either that state's electoral votes are not counted, in which case Trump wins (as all of those states are needed by Biden to win), or it goes to the House, where Trump wins. I guess the only outside shot is that the governors of those states send Biden electors even if the state voted for Trump, but I don't see that as a viable option.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (kA3Cp)

111 But a lot more people are now *woke* to the real dangers. People I know that have never voted, or always voted Dem.

They showed their hands too soon. It almost worked.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (Z4rgH)

I was never involved over the years, but I was always watching and understood. I had said years ago that they will bite off more than they can chew and expose their asses. The one major thing about the genre of music I threw myself into is that it deals with history, a lot. Always a war of good verses evil. I started to understand that there will always be evil forces tearing away at us, and then eventually I was able to identify it, and it always seemed to wear a dem mask.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (9Om/r)

112 Reminds me of the description of Israel's situation with it's neighbors I first heard many years ago. As long as they win their wars, they're fine, but if they ever lose one, it's over. That's just about where we find ourselves these days.

Posted by: jim at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (ynpvh)

113 Ana Navarro is on The Spew, and the coven starts out praising Biden to the skies.

I'm sure they'll be totally respectful to Kim Klacik.

*eyeroll*
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:05 AM (ptqGC)

Which one will refer to Kim as Aunt Jemima? Like the left did with Condoleeza Rice?

Posted by: Jen the original at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (BPeHW)

114 I come here and read and lurk every day but today's the first time that I got a warning page to not come here. Security risk! Security risk! Warning warning. I came anyway and nobody has killed me yet.

Posted by: cjhmhch at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (eSgwh)

115 It's like an MRI only they move you around a lot....from what I remember.
Posted

Oh great.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:13 AM (ptqGC)

You are my density*

*cheesy Back To The Future quote*

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (Z4rgH)

116 "You think we're voting our way out of these circumstances at this point in the game?"

Probably not. I'll vote Republican. I try to cancel #woke corporations, but since they're all #woke now, not much accomplished. I email politicians and "news" people calling them out when they lie; they don't care.

I don't have the resources to move out of my shithole city, so I have to defend Fort Apache. If there are any representatives of the Silent Majority here, they are staying VERY silent as far as I can tell. The churches are #woke and nearly empty anyway, so no compatriots to be found there. The guys at the rifle club are staying gray. I'm prepared, insofar as if somebody shoots at me, I can shoot back.

Other than that, I'm open to suggestions.

Posted by: gp at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (qpX6U)

117 Has the quadrennial whining by Eurotrash types started about how they should play a part in the election?

(e.g. Operation Clark County in 2004)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (mht8P)
+++++++++++
Cracker - "Eurotrash Girl"
https://youtu.be/2K2teeclbR4

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (hYcqw)

118 When what we should have been doing was organizing to fight them. Street actions, black marias, the whole bit.
***

When the right took to massive peaceful protest over abortion in the 80s and the 90s the establishment right worked with the left to arrest them.

Compare that to what the establishment left is doing with "mostly peaceful" rioters and arsonists from BLM/antifa

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (qlFIA)

119 The "right" aka GOP and conservatism, IMHO, started losing the battle back when Vietnam was heating up. Anti-war sentiment, "free love", etc. The GOP became very cozy with corporate America relegating the populace to the Dems. Reaganism helped lurch us back to the right/center-right but it has been full tilt leftward ever since.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (N39Ws)

120 @SaraCarterDC 1m

#BREAKING Senate #Ukraine Report On #Biden, #Burisma Expected 'in days', Says Top #GOP Senator

"I'm hopeful our report will turn some heads because my goal is to get the truth out to the American people," says @SenRonJohnson

Probably 14 days...

Posted by: Tami at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (cF8AT)

121 I hope that after PDT wins (please God) he eschews all the inauguration pageantry, saves the country a ton of money and just gets down to bidness.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (W2Pud)

122 72 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (ptqGC)

The inject adamantium into your bones which is very painful and you can only survive because of your mutant regeneration powers.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (xfb67)

123 The NYU Student Newspaper defends a student-led push for a themed engagement community for Black students only.
The editorial claims that Black-students need a supportive place unlike White people.

Jesus, what fuckin retards with no grip of history

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (tsZQ+)

124 Prior to middle class women entering the workforce in mass (working class women had been for a long time), it took one salary to have a house/middle class lifestyle.

Now with women in the workforce it takes two.

Good job everyone! That worked out swell!
Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (qlFIA)

Things started going to hell when they got the franchise, then it accelerated once they started moving into the workforce. Would we have authorifagitarian SJW HR departments without wimminz in the workplace? I think not.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (NWiLs)

125 Whose voters are 'hidden' in polling data? 'Shy' Biden voters may actually outnumber Trump's

Interesting way to refer to the dead.

Posted by: tbodie at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (0jR9T)

126 Posted by: WTP at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (95axh)

What do doctors have to do with this?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (xT2tT)

127 107 JackStraw said on Monday he has it that his week could possibly be exciting RE the deep staters eating shit.

Here's hoping hes correct.
Posted by: Getcha Pull at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (aR6C/)

nah, it'll take Two More Weeks.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (Kpl3J)

128 EMP is the only way to destroy the left. They'd be dead within four days without electricity.

Posted by: Puddin Head

Cut off communication, finance, and logistical networks. Defeat in detail.
Posted by: Brother Tim

Cut off trucking and the grocery stores go empty in three days.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:18 AM (gJBE5)

129 109 Don't they tap all your different bones with a hammer and the ones that fail just weren't dense enough
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (ROLxQ)

Whack your shins with tuning forks

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:18 AM (NWiLs)

130 I agree with almost everything Weasel said accept the conclusion. If we aren't voting ourselves out of this then this can't be the most important election ever. In fact, it's not important at all.

Cocaine Mitch rammed through 6 more federal judges this week, 4 in California and 2 in Illinois. The transformation of the federal judiciary under Trump is staggering and will have huge implications for years to come in many areas of our society and culture. A second term will further cement the deal with the likelihood of multiple Supreme Court picks. The courts were always the left's ace in the hole and they are losing it.

I do agree that we took our eye off the ball and allowed much of the rot to take place and it will take years to dig it out but I don't think it's impossible. What we need is to develop a will as strong as the left's and it feels like it's building. The fact that it took a real estate developer from Queens to show the way never ceases to amaze me.

Vote. Get everyone you can to come along. It's not too late to save the best hope of mankind on earth.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)

131
Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (ptqGC)

Each one of your bones temporarily removed, subjected to tests for crush strength and break strength on an Instron testing device, and then put back in place.

Or so I think that I heard - I might have confused it with something else.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2020 11:18 AM (pNxlR)

132 The importance of local elections cannot be understated. A lot of the shit we've been going through is because of marxy Marx politicians from the Guv on down.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (kTi97)

133 Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (W2Pud)

I think he enjoys the pomp and circumstance, and certainly the adulation, too much to do what you suggest, though I agree with you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (xT2tT)

134 What did socialists, democrats, and progressives use for light before candles?
Electricity.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (pw+jk)

135 Kim Klacik was a fool to go on that show. I won't watch it. This idea that you can get attention if you let yourself take a public beating is idiotic.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (Kpl3J)

How many more people , especially the black population will have heard of Kim Klacik for the first time after today. I"m betting quiet a few and they will have a chance to actually see her and hear what she is saying.

She was interviewed on OANN this morning by the way.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (BPeHW)

136
Wilfred may not come ashore but it looks like it will dump a lot of rain on us next week. I'll have to get going on the lawn, dammit.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (mht8P)

137 The worst part is the high-pressure percussive sensors, that impact the bone and detect the amount of resistance.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:11 AM (NWiLs)

Then there's the car battery that they attach to your genitals with wires and clamps.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 18, 2020

*
*

See, Jane? I warned you

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (Ejm1K)

138 It's not too late to save the best hope of mankind on earth.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)

It's not too late to save the LAST best hope of mankind on earth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (tsZQ+)

139 Starting Sunday, downloads of the massively popular video app TikTok and the messaging app WeChat will be banned in the United States, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced Friday morning.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (63Dwl)

Exactly how do they plan to enforce that?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (HYAPV)

140 The only scenario we get where there will be any slack in the future is if the Democratic Party falls apart and is replaced by a third party that doesn't hate America.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (pZ58d)

141 How on G-Ds green can they allow early voting BEFORE the first debate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (tsZQ+)

142 98 Yeah. You f*ers who kept your heads down when those of us who gathered the courage to speak up in the face of obvious BS 20-25-30 years ago (or more? Less?) were catching crap from our "betters" and ridicule from "the (not so) cool kids", the Narrative, etc. You f*ing doctors, "conservative" doctors who told me that PC culture was nothing to take seriously. That I should laugh at it. That if it bothers me so much, I perhaps needed to see a shrink. F you bastards.
Posted by: WTP at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (95axh)

I couldn't vote until 2000. I've always known the 2 party system was fake and gay, the GloboHomoTrotters vs the Washington Generals. I'm very tired of the shit I've caught since Waco.
I agree with and understand your frustrations very well.
And we still have gatekeepers and they have infiltrated MAGA and team Trump. Nobody wants to hear that, but it's true. It happens every damn time since our country has been founded. And I'd bet it's common with nations the last 5000 years of recorded history.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM (P0ZO8)

143 So my sister's 40th birthday is today. Her husband had planned out a surprise party for her tonight. And it was going well. Then the other day she decides she going to only work a half day. So he solves that mostly by giving her a spa day/massage to go to. Then today he had to reveal to her that the party is tonight so she would actually go and be on time for the massage. She's such a pain in the ass

Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM (dtx0j)

144 The importance of local elections cannot be
understated. A lot of the shit we've been going through is because of
marxy Marx politicians from the Guv on down.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (kTi97)

===
It all starts at the school board. This is where the commies get their foot in the door.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM (pw+jk)

145 Like the left did with Condoleeza Rice?
Posted by: Jen the original at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (BPeHW)

Defending her was like sticking your neck out for the Kochs.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM (y7DUB)

146 The NYU Student Newspaper defends a student-led push for a themed engagement community for Black students only.
The editorial claims that Black-students need a supportive place unlike White people.

Jesus, what fuckin retards with no grip of history
Posted by: Nevergiveup

The back of the bus is available.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM (gJBE5)

147 The only solution is either a two-state solution or else the Left will impose a Final Solution on us.

Us or them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 18, 2020 11:01 AM (s2VJv)

Our state is the United States of America. Their state is a slow boat to wherever their ancestors came from.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (pZ58d)

148 141 How on G-Ds green can they allow early voting BEFORE the first debate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (tsZQ+)

I don't need a debate. Not changing my mind.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (xfb67)

149 Cut off trucking and the grocery stores go empty in three days.

Posted by: rickb223

Plus, most cities have a handful of main arteries most or all key traffic enters and exits through. A few trucks lay down their loads in strategic spots and everything grinds to a halt.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (OUMaO)

150 and is replaced by a third party that doesn't hate America.
***

Ideally we should have a traditionalist party aka Trumpkins and a libertarian party - of the sort that like tax cuts and deregulation - not Cuties.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (qlFIA)

151 This is great....

https://tinyurl.com/y4emsvhk

Posted by: Tami at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (cF8AT)

152 11 Will we recognize ourselves in 25 years?

I'll prolly be dead,
so most likely not.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (W2Pud)

All things considered, I figure I've a 50/50 shot at being alive this time next year.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (DTX3h)

153 22
Starting Sunday, downloads of the massively popular video app TikTok and the messaging app WeChat will be banned in the United States, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced Friday morning.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (63Dwl)

Meh. Horse, barn door. It should have been outlawed from the get-go. It's here now and it's not going away.

Posted by: creeper at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (XxJt1)

154 I can certainly see progressives saying something to the effect of "We cannot guarantee our election process was fair, so we will not certify PA's election results. It's a shame Joe Biden had to win this way." Is there any mechanism to stop this from happening?
Posted by: Willy

Speaking out of my ass, it shouldn't change the result. Not sending electors doesn't reduce the pool of electors nor lower the number needed to win. Petty foolishness like that would only be successful in wasting time and throwing the election into the House where - IIRC, a party line vote by state still gives Trump a win?

Posted by: common sense at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (UCCfH)

155 The NYU Student Newspaper defends a student-led push for a themed engagement community for Black students only.
The editorial claims that Black-students need a supportive place unlike White people.

Jesus, what fuckin retards with no grip of history
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (tsZQ+)

Another illustration of the teaching of Marxist and critical race theory that has been going on for at least a decade in secondary schools. They get to the universities and it permeates the place.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (BPeHW)

156 143 So my sister's 40th birthday is today. Her husband had planned out a surprise party for her tonight. And it was going well. Then the other day she decides she going to only work a half day. So he solves that mostly by giving her a spa day/massage to go to. Then today he had to reveal to her that the party is tonight so she would actually go and be on time for the massage. She's such a pain in the ass
Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM (dtx0j

You should haunt her party. Scare the shit out of everyone.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (kTi97)

157 I gotta run. But your comment is typical...my "conservative" (as stated if you can f'n read) doctor suggested that my observations about wtf was going on were somehow illogical. I saw this s coming from decades away. But f'g "conservatives", etc. were gaslighted themselves.

Posted by: WTP at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (95axh)

158 So my sister's 40th birthday is today. [...] She's such a pain in the ass

Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM (dtx0j)

Join Nevergiveup and me for a drink and we will tell you stories about sisters who are REAL pains in the ass.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (xT2tT)

159 135 Kim Klacik was a fool to go on that show. I won't watch it. This idea that you can get attention if you let yourself take a public beating is idiotic.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:14 AM (Kpl3J)

How many more people , especially the black population will have heard of Kim Klacik for the first time after today. I"m betting quiet a few and they will have a chance to actually see her and hear what she is saying.

She was interviewed on OANN this morning by the way.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (BPeHW)

Kim Klacik is a libertarian. She said she is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. She is not on our side.
The social IS the political. It always has been. It always will be.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (P0ZO8)

160 141 How on G-Ds green can they allow early voting BEFORE the first debate
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (tsZQ+)
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The only silver lining is people voting that early are the hard core party faithful's who aren't persuadable.

Posted by: WisRich at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (G0vdT)

161
"Cocaine Mitch rammed through 6 more federal judges this week, 4 in California and 2 in Illinois. The transformation of the federal judiciary under Trump is staggering and will have huge implications for years to come in many areas of our society and culture."

Unfortunately, none of those judges have been able to rule on things like extending the voter deadline in PA. The left sure knows how to judge shop. If they can pick their judges as a way of advancing their "cause" what good are all these conservatives?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (HabA/)

162 Then today he had to reveal to her that the party is tonight so she would actually go and be on time for the massage. She's such a pain in the ass
Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM (dtx0j)

He needed to tell her, it gave her a chance to cancel the date with Paolo.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:23 AM (Kpl3J)

163
Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?

They lay you out over a hollow box and have a percussionist play "Fossils" from Saint-Saens' "The Carnival of the Animals" on your bones.

https://youtu.be/HTHaH5ONge8

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2020 11:23 AM (pNxlR)

164 I came anyway and nobody has killed me yet.

Posted by: cjhmhch at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (eSgwh)

Missed one. Anyone got a scope on cjhmhch?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 18, 2020 11:23 AM (wzVKm)

165 But a lot more people are now *woke* to the real dangers. People I know that have never voted, or always voted Dem.

They showed their hands too soon. It almost worked.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:06 AM (Z4rgH)

Not least of all on this pedo shit.

It's almost unfathomable, watching so-called respectable journalists getting all OFFENDED that anyone would question that Netflix movie.

You have to just stand there for a moment, with your mouth agape, until it sinks in... they really are doing this. They really are saying this.

The best thing about 2020 is how fully corporate media has destroyed itself. And the public schools are right behind them. And Woke Sportsball. And Hollowwood. And frankly, the Democrat Party.

Seriously, even if they manage to steal this election, they can't and won't "enjoy" any victory, because there are too many people who have caught on to this. Too many sleepy slumberers who poo poo the notion that there's evil in this country, trying to rule it.

Well here it is, folks. 2020 has opened its trenchcoat, and is dangling its naught bits right in our faces.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 11:23 AM (hku12)

166 I don't care how much Donald Trump offends them the neverTrumpers who have endorsed the Democrats are evil.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at September 18, 2020 11:23 AM (lgiXo)

167 It all starts at the school board. This is where the commies get their foot in the door.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM (pw+jk

Yes. Excellent point.

We've yet to see the fruits of the current crop making their way to college. Even if we start today, we've got 20 years of indoctrinated critters to deal with.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 18, 2020 11:23 AM (kTi97)

168 143 So my sister's 40th birthday is today. Her husband had planned out a surprise party for her tonight. And it was going well. Then the other day she decides she going to only work a half day. So he solves that mostly by giving her a spa day/massage to go to. Then today he had to reveal to her that the party is tonight so she would actually go and be on time for the massage. She's such a pain in the ass
Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM (dtx0j)

Hopefully he still has the otters ready to go.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:23 AM (NWiLs)

169 And we still have gatekeepers and they have infiltrated MAGA and team Trump. Nobody wants to hear that, but it's true. It happens every damn time since our country has been founded. And I'd bet it's common with nations the last 5000 years of recorded history.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe

The entire point of representative democracy is delegating responsibility for certain things so the rest of us can get on with our lives. It took us too damn long to figure out the folks we hired to manage government for us were scamming us.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at September 18, 2020 11:23 AM (OUMaO)

170 How on G-Ds green can they allow early voting BEFORE the first debate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM

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In my experience the people who do early voting won't change their mind no matter what.

That's why democrats always outnumber republicans in early voting. and the media breathlessly reports those numbers every cycle thinking, this time it's gonna be different.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 18, 2020 11:23 AM (JUOKG)

171 Pipe dream: "national divorce"

Appomattox. Forget about it.

Anyway, they don't want to partition the country! They want to rule the entire thing, & they're winning, too.

Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (Cssks)

172
How many more people , especially the black population will have heard of Kim Klacik for the first time after today. I"m betting quiet a few and they will have a chance to actually see her and hear what she is saying.

She was interviewed on OANN this morning by the way.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (BPeHW)

I don't know how many. The View has always struck me as a very white suburban wife show.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (dtx0j)

173 Things started going to hell when they got the franchise, then it accelerated once they started moving into the workforce. Would we have authorifagitarian SJW HR departments without wimminz in the workplace? I think not.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (NWiLs)

Yah. Barefoot and pregnant is definitely better.

Posted by: creeper at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (XxJt1)

174 I came anyway and nobody has killed me yet.

Posted by: cjhmhch at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (eSgwh)

Got your pills 'gainst mosquito death?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (NWiLs)

175 Posted by: WTP at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (95axh)

You seem angry and incoherent.

Is your mention of doctors some sort of stupid appeal to authority? Because that is a logical fallacy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (xT2tT)

176 "Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?"

The movie "The Pursuit Of Happyness" is about a bone-scanner salesman.

Posted by: gp at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (qpX6U)

177 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh

Like a Brinell hardness test. Known weights dropped from measured distance on to test target. Divots measured. Painless.

Posted by: Dr. Banned at September 18, 2020 11:25 AM (HHOky)

178 I see that Pepe is still very annoying.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:25 AM (dtx0j)

179 What stops these states from undermining the certification of their own election results should Donny T win them? Sort of like taking a winning touchdown off the board "after review."

I can certainly see progressives saying something to the effect of "We cannot guarantee our election process was fair, so we will not certify PA's election results. It's a shame Joe Biden had to win this way." Is there any mechanism to stop this from happening?
Posted by: Willy at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (sPEcG)

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I was in the stadium for that game in Pittsburgh vs New England.... Closest thing to a riot I've ever been in. And I kept expecting Jesse James to punch a ref.

Re: your question. I think the math (avoids flaming pineapples and tomatoes and screams of "No Math!") says that Democrats taking those EC votes off the table helps the Republican candidate reach the target number. Remember that the "winning number" of EC votes is a percentage of the total, so the fewer overall votes there are the lower the threshold of winning. Trumps lock on red-state votes is much stronger than Sleepy's lock on blue-state votes.

Posted by: Cold Rage at September 18, 2020 11:25 AM (OXSar)

180 Is your mention of doctors some sort of stupid appeal to authority? Because that is a logical fallacy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (xT2tT)

You're a logically fallacy!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:25 AM (xfb67)

181 <i>Who is to blame? It is all too easy to simply fault the left, but rather
more difficult to acknowledge we deserve at least some of the credit
for the mess we're in. Quite a bit of the credit, actually.</i>

Ehhh ... sorry. My collective guilt thingy is busted. I don't do collective guilt anymore. Americans are basically good people ruled by evil vindictive assholes.

The blame for an assault lies with the assailants. We've been abused by these people for a century now.

Posted by: MadRocketSci at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (hRoyQ)

182 The "conservative"' Academic and Professional Classes really fucked things up the last 30 years and more.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (P0ZO8)

183 At least we aren't fighting among ourselves this time around. Moron on Moron, that is.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (7Am4g)

184 Where we took our eye off the ball was with thinking that the gopE was working for our side.

I got hoodwinked since 2000. Bush the Lesser was quite frankly nothing more than a democrat. McCain and Romeny were democrats. All of the HOR assholes that vote donkey more than republican... well democrats. And let's not forget those senators with conservative ratings in the 20s and 30s that could be counted on giving the donks the 60 votes to their tripe voted on and then voting against said tripe and complaining how it narrowly won by all the communists voting for it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (pw+jk)

185 Things started going to hell when they got the franchise, then it accelerated once they started moving into the workforce. Would we have authorifagitarian SJW HR departments without wimminz in the workplace? I think not.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (NWiLs)
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The progression used to be: Mom stayed home, looked after kids, once kids started school, mom would look for a part time job that didn't interfere with looking after the children.

Then, that insidious doctrine came about, the one that said, "You can't make others happy unless you first make yourself happy." Couple that with making it much easier to get a divorce and you've got families being destroyed because Dad decided he needed to be "happy" and happiness was defined by a new, younger squeeze.

That first generation of kids from broken homes were then taught "you can have it all." Two working parents, with a ton of income, even more debt, no matter you're paying someone else to look after your kids, no need to buy a starter house, get that big 4 bedroom 3 bath house...easy credit, because, two incomes!

You then wind up with two parents coming home, exhausted, dealing with the demands of children, running them everywhere to make up for the guilt of scheduling them in around work...and, due to these pressures, marriages start coming apart, and, men wind up paying this time around, because the first time around, they were the ones leaving.

Yay us!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (WEBkv)

186 I wonder about the elderly Democrats. Their party today is not the same as it once was. Doesn't this trouble them or have they always been shambling down this path?

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (lgiXo)

187 You seem angry and incoherent.

Angry and Incoherent 2020!
Harris and Biden!

Posted by: banned at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (HHOky)

188 "The entire point of representative democracy is delegating responsibility for certain things so the rest of us can get on with our lives."

Well, also because pure democracies inevitably vote themselves to ruin, so the Founders picked a republic. But we still vote ourselves to destruction.

Posted by: gp at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (qpX6U)

189 J. Fred Murrow!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 18, 2020 11:01 AM (wPVhA)

LOL. That's cute.

Posted by: Sal at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (KTdeA)

190 180 Is your mention of doctors some sort of stupid appeal to authority? Because that is a logical fallacy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (xT2tT)

You're a logically fallacy!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:25 AM (xfb67)

You're a towel!

Posted by: Towelie at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (dtx0j)

191 I don't know how many. The View has always struck me as a very white suburban wife show.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (dtx0j)

The view has always struck me as an angry old loudmouthed whore's show.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (Kpl3J)

192 -
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If they refuse to certify, either that state's
electoral votes are not counted, in which case Trump wins (as all of
those states are needed by Biden to win), or it goes to the House, where
Trump wins. I guess the only outside shot is that the governors of
those states send Biden electors even if the state voted for Trump, but I
don't see that as a viable option.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM

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Scenario: Purple states that have a slight majority of repubs also refuse to certify the elections of any of their republican house members. Old congress is out Jan 3. New house now has a majority of states delegation voting blue.
Is this remotely possible?

Posted by: irright at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (pMGkg)

193 "Whose voters are 'hidden' in polling data? 'Shy' Biden voters may actually outnumber Trump's"

LOL! I have yet to meet a liberal who was at all shy about expressing his/her/xer opinion about politics. They would bash Reagan in the 80's because they assumed that if they liked you and you seemed intelligent, of course, you would agree with them.

And I doubt they get shyer in red states. They know conservatives won't get them fired or slash their tires. And I'm sure red state libs enjoy feeling like they are sooooo much smarter than all the yahoos around them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (HabA/)

194 I got hoodwinked since 2000. Bush the Lesser was quite frankly nothing more than a democrat. McCain and Romeny were democrats. All of the HOR assholes that vote donkey more than republican... well democrats. And let's not forget those senators with conservative ratings in the 20s and 30s that could be counted on giving the donks the 60 votes to their tripe voted on and then voting against said tripe and complaining how it narrowly won by all the communists voting for it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious

And worst of all: The people who keep re-electing them, election after election.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (OUMaO)

195 Yay us!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (WEBkv)

We've come a long way, baby!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (NWiLs)

196 >>>Kim Klacik is a libertarian. She said she is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. She is not on our side.

The social IS the political. It always has been. It always will be.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (P0ZO

<<<
This! I've been saying this for years. Every time a "libertarian" has to chose between electing a "fiscal conservative" versus "social liberal" they pick the "social liberal" who is also an out and out Marxist.
Libertarian are never serious about reducing gov't. they are only serious about drugs, open borders, and legal prostitution. That is ALL they ever really care about. I have no respect - either morally, philosophically, ethically, or intellectually for anyone claiming to be a libertarian. They are not serious people and are not our allies or friends.

Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:28 AM (gd3bR)

197 I would hope that when Trump wins by convincing margins, that he goes after the people that caused all of this shit to happen. But who is he going to get to arrest these people. We have already seen the FBI, DOJ and most of the high ranking military are deep state. They won't do anything, especially since Trump defeated them twice. They will stage their own takeover, this time a real one. We need to be ready for that,not these weak BLMTifa scum.

Posted by: Megthered at September 18, 2020 11:28 AM (SM/op)

198 190 180 Is your mention of doctors some sort of stupid appeal to authority? Because that is a logical fallacy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (xT2tT)

You're a logically fallacy!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:25 AM (xfb67)

You're a towel!
Posted by: Towelie at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (dtx0j)

Wanna get high?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:28 AM (NWiLs)

199 In fact, new data from the latest Yahoo News/YouGov poll suggests that shy Biden voters may now be more plentiful than shy Trump voters. Biden voters, on the other hand, tend to live in more politically diverse areas, with a much smaller number (44 percent) saying that all or most of their neighbors will vote for the Democratic nominee.
(...)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 18, 2020 11:07 AM (3ki8c)

It's possible that people living in overwhelmingly "blue" areas are seeing the occasional Trump sign and thus conclude that they're surrounded by Trump voters. (It's a real thing - in a space that is usually 100% one group, like women, it takes only a small percentage of men to make it feel like there's parity, there's some psychological multiplier thing that happens.)

OR maybe they're so profoundly embarrassed by Biden that they don't want to express support for him to their "blue" friends which will start the inevitable conversation that ends "you should vote for him anyway or we're all going to die."

Who knows.

Posted by: Synova at September 18, 2020 11:28 AM (BD/yx)

200 Politically diverse? Like California, New York, Illinois. That kind of politically diverse? I'll bet all of those "shy Biden voters" will vote by mail days after the election is over.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 18, 2020 11:07 AM (3ki8c)

...

Genders are political, and they have waaaay more of them.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 18, 2020 11:28 AM (yL25O)

201
Tired of talking about what looks to be looming in the near future.
I got one more GOOD rodeo left, so if the left wants to dance some then bring it so I can live my allotted time in peace and quiet as intended.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 18, 2020 11:29 AM (KATBx)

202 Yay us!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (WEBkv)

We've come a long way, baby!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (NWiLs)

They never should have had their own cigarette. That was a big mistake.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 18, 2020 11:29 AM (wPVhA)

203 Kim Klacik is fine by me, but her candidacy is a mirage. She'll be lucky to get 30%, REALLY lucky, & everybody knows that. 25% more likely. Maybe less.

So, going on hostile TV shows won't hurt her chances of winning at all.

Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 11:29 AM (Cssks)

204
"Fossils" from Saint-Saens' "The Carnival of the Animals"

Leonard Bernstein explains what are the musical "fossils" in that piece --

https://youtu.be/_b2sdLuwvOg

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2020 11:29 AM (pNxlR)

205 178 I see that Pepe is still very annoying.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:25 AM (dtx0j)

Yet, my points are valid and shared by 10s of millions if not over 100 million in our country. Keep attacking using ad hominem.
I feel sorry for you. You are so brainwashed, now betrayed, and now working through stages of grief and being gaslighted you're entire life by people you trusted as authority figures.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:29 AM (P0ZO8)

206 "Communism is the elevation of face over truth."

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 18, 2020 11:29 AM (LxTcq)

207 It's not too late to save the LAST best hope of mankind on earth
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:19 AM (tsZQ+)

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Sheridan? Is that you?

Posted by: Cold Rage at September 18, 2020 11:30 AM (OXSar)

208 >>Anyway, they don't want to partition the country! They want to rule the entire thing, & they're winning, too.

Does everything they are doing right now really feel like winning to you? The riots, the lockdowns, the attempt to normalize election cheating, it all sounds more like desperation to me.

The fried chicken eating Rep Cohen in Tennessee is introducing legislation to investigate Barr for a possible impeachment. Every Democrat on the Senate Judiciary signed a letter to the DOJ IG seeking an investigation of the Durham investigation. They are clearly afraid of what's going on at the DOJ right now. They should be.

The left seems a lot less formidable today than it did 4 years ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 11:30 AM (ZLI7S)

209 Considering the way I live, in 25 years I'll be dead.

I don't see a "two-state" solution. I do think the only way out is bloody revolution, mass executions and the complete outlawing of the Democrat party.

I also don't think the right has the stomach, will or tenacity for that fight.

**looks at clock**

Man I wish it were 5 o'clock. I really need to get drunk.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 18, 2020 11:30 AM (2JVJo)

210
Starting Sunday, downloads of the massively popular video app TikTok and the messaging app WeChat will be banned in the United States, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced Friday morning.

All right. How 'bout blocking the servers?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 18, 2020 11:31 AM (oVJmc)

211 203 Kim Klacik is fine by me, but her candidacy is a mirage. She'll be lucky to get 30%, REALLY lucky, & everybody knows that. 25% more likely. Maybe less.

So, going on hostile TV shows won't hurt her chances of winning at all.
Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 11:29 AM (Cssks)

You are correct - the idea that the vote in her district won't be rigged in advance is laughable. So, she's building her media presence for a future media position TBD.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:31 AM (Kpl3J)

212 With 999 more monkeys and 999 more typewriters, they could type out a Shakespeare play. I read that somewhere.
Posted by: Cicero

************

What light through yonder window sl;aswfpoiu?

So close, Bobo, so close. Keep trying!!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 18, 2020 11:31 AM (Fc5rx)

213 This! I've been saying this for years. Every time a "libertarian" has to chose between electing a "fiscal conservative" versus "social liberal" they pick the "social liberal" who is also an out and out Marxist.
Libertarian are never serious about reducing gov't. they are only serious about drugs, open borders, and legal prostitution. That is ALL they ever really care about. I have no respect - either morally, philosophically, ethically, or intellectually for anyone claiming to be a libertarian. They are not serious people and are not our allies or friends.
Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:28 AM (gd3bR)

And Free Markets (their religion), along with corporations, and money for themsleves.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:31 AM (P0ZO8)

214 208
The left seems a lot less formidable today than it did 4 years ago.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 11:30 AM (ZLI7S)

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And the MSM grows weaker with every fake bombshell and panic.

This feels like, to me, the lashing out of a cornered animal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:32 AM (UWqZJ)

215 207 Sheridan? Is that you?

Posted by: Cold Rage at September 18, 2020 11:30 AM (OXSar)

*shrugs*

Posted by: Kosh at September 18, 2020 11:32 AM (DTX3h)

216 Man I wish it were 5 o'clock. I really need to get drunk.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 18, 2020 11:30 AM (2JVJo)

It's after 10 here, so you can drink twice as much..

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:32 AM (xfb67)

217 Too young to remember the revolving door of Politburo leadership? Same tenets, too.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 18, 2020 11:08 AM (kA3Cp)

No teleprompter, beotches!

Posted by: Konstantin Chernenko at September 18, 2020 11:32 AM (BRkq2)

218 -
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Starting Sunday, downloads of the massively popular video app TikTok
and the messaging app WeChat will be banned in the United States, the
U.S. Department of Commerce announced Friday morning.

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Now do Twitter/Facebook/etc.

Posted by: irright at September 18, 2020 11:32 AM (pMGkg)

219 Then, that insidious doctrine came about, the one that said, "You can't make others happy unless you first make yourself happy." Couple that with making it much easier to get a divorce and you've got families being destroyed because Dad decided he needed to be "happy" and happiness was defined by a new, younger squeeze.

yep.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:32 AM (W2Pud)

220 198 190 180 Is your mention of doctors some sort of stupid appeal to authority? Because that is a logical fallacy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:24 AM (xT2tT)

...

My wife is covering logic in her high school government class.

Today is ad hominems.

I love my wife, and homeschooling.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 18, 2020 11:33 AM (yL25O)

221 205 178 I see that Pepe is still very annoying.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:25 AM (dtx0j)

Yet, my points are valid and shared by 10s of millions if not over 100 million in our country. Keep attacking using ad hominem.
I feel sorry for you. You are so brainwashed, now betrayed, and now working through stages of grief and being gaslighted you're entire life by people you trusted as authority figures.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:29 AM (P0ZO

And yet you are annoying and unlikeable and even if people agree with you they would not want to associate with you.

By the way I could use a laugh. Go on another rant about how Q-anon is real but has been co-opted by Kushner.

Posted by: Towelie at September 18, 2020 11:33 AM (dtx0j)

222 Then, that insidious doctrine came about, the one that said, "You can't make others happy unless you first make yourself happy." Couple that with making it much easier to get a divorce and you've got families being destroyed because Dad decided he needed to be "happy" and happiness was defined by a new, younger squeeze.

Except it ain't just Dad following that course...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:33 AM (NWiLs)

223 >>>>>194
I got hoodwinked since 2000. Bush the Lesser was quite frankly
nothing more than a democrat. McCain and Romeny were democrats. All of
the HOR assholes that vote donkey more than republican... well
democrats. And let's not forget those senators with conservative ratings
in the 20s and 30s that could be counted on giving the donks the 60
votes to their tripe voted on and then voting against said tripe and
complaining how it narrowly won by all the communists voting for it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious<<<<<

I've argued for years that conservatives needed to punish the GOP to get them to pursue a conservative agenda. I argued in 2002, 2004, 2006, and on and on that conservatives should sit out the federal elections and let GOP take massive losses to prove a point. Yes, I realize that would give dems power in the short term, but what difference would it have made? The same results would have happened. the GOP is just a front for pushing more globalism/leftism.
The Election of Trump was something I didn't forsee, but acted in the same way as a "conservative voter strike" that I was pushing. And we have seen how the "conservative" pundits and GOP has responded. They are even worse than I thought. I thought their failure to deliver was more about electoral cowardice than them secretly being leftists/globalists. I was wrong on that count. We have learned that the GOP is a fiction - it exists to help further the same agenda the left is pushing, just a little slower than the democrats push it. Trump is trying to change that, which is why they hate him so much. The media, the GOP, the "conservative" press - they all hate Trump because he is not following their agenda, which is the left's agenda.

Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:34 AM (gd3bR)

224 The phrase "we are not voting our way out of this" generally (to me) imports the concept that we are going to have to fight/shoot our way out ... or that some level of civil war or chaotic "divorce" is inevitable.

imo, We can "vote our way out", but it will be incremental, the same way we got led down this dark ally, via external forces, combined with elitist shadow men (at cocktail partied) incrementally.

To get those votes to swing back toward America the Beautiful, will require cultural action. The Trump 2016 Earthquake Vote set the tone for confrontation of the DC Cartel and the Sharpton/Holder shakedowns. Notice how hard the left worked to deny the election results ... how hard our DeepState fought against that True the Vote woman, and their continuous coup against The Vote for Trump (for Liberty).

The left has found their riots are hurting them, their love of China is hurting them, their "defund the police" is hurting them. This is because they have not yet achieved Critical Mass for setting off the Nuke that was planned under a Hillary Regime. Dems are pushing hard on very unpopular concepts ... A landslide win for Trump would be a big step toward "voting our way out" ... a vote that shows America Land of Liberty has not been conquered.

But yeah, then all the cultural actions need to follow, but with some prosecutions of those shadow men from the top ... that would sure help. "Not voting our way out" seems too fatalistic to me ... Dems recognize they have to alter the vote, cheat the vote, lie to influence the vote, and with Biden they are failing. (lots of other down ballot choices though)

Posted by: illiniwek at September 18, 2020 11:34 AM (Cus5s)

225 212 With 999 more monkeys and 999 more typewriters, they could type out a Shakespeare play. I read that somewhere.
Posted by: Cicero

************

What light through yonder window sl;aswfpoiu?

So close, Bobo, so close. Keep trying!!
Posted by: Muldoon at September 18, 2020 11:31 AM (Fc5rx)

...

What a world; the monkeys have started typing, and the journalists are throwing their own poo.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 18, 2020 11:34 AM (yL25O)

226 Then, that insidious doctrine came about, the one that said, "You can't make others happy unless you first make yourself happy." Couple that with making it much easier to get a divorce and you've got families being destroyed because Dad decided he needed to be "happy" and happiness was defined by a new, younger squeeze.

The Paolo he has, how you say, blossomed, by this thing.

Posted by: The Paolo at September 18, 2020 11:34 AM (wPVhA)

227 >>This feels like, to me, the lashing out of a cornered animal.

Slowly, then all at once.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 11:35 AM (ZLI7S)

228 Scenario: Purple states that have a slight majority of repubs also refuse to certify the elections of any of their republican house members. Old congress is out Jan 3. New house now has a majority of states delegation voting blue.
Is this remotely possible?

"Each State shall appoint" Shall seems compulsory to me, failure to send them is legally actionable, no?

Posted by: common sense at September 18, 2020 11:35 AM (UCCfH)

229 Servo

They don't need to "rig" that district!

Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 11:35 AM (Cssks)

230 In a little over 45 days, we face what is arguably the most important election of our lifetimes. The most important, that is, until the next election, and then the one after that. The truth is there are no longer any unimportant elections. Accepting the status-quo and settling for whatever happens is how we came to find ourselves at the edge of the abyss. There is no more slack in the system, and no more room for error. The next misstep could well be our last.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:00 AM

Well said. And it is our own fault.

I think of the state of country like a home and voting like doing chores.

Think of a task list of things you want to do around the house. Cleaning, organizing, fix-ups, etc.

Think of cleaning, say, the bathroom. When you make a point to clean the bathroom every weekend, it's a small task. Because there's not a lot of mess that builds up in a week's time.

But if you miss a couple weeks and put off the cleaning for a month. Then the task becomes that much more difficult.

Same applies here. In an ideal world where everyone took each election seriously and paid attention to when things were just starting to get unclean and addressed them right away, things would be much easier to keep clean.

But when we've gone years, sometimes decades, ignoring the messes that keep developing and growing, then we get to the state we are in where each election is a monumental one.

The problem is that human nature tends not to worry about an issue when it's small. It's only when the issue becomes massive that we then start to worry about it and want to do something. And sometimes by then, it's too late.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 18, 2020 11:35 AM (Do5/p)

231 Why oh why are all these investigations of D malfeasance just now finishing up? It is like they are choosing to give the DNC/FNM an excuse to incite riots "they broke the agreement about not talking about investigations the last 60 days before election"

OR they intend to sit on this material until after Nov. 3 using the "well we couldn't release so soon before voting day and incite riots" excuse.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 18, 2020 11:35 AM (T9Hmo)

232 I came anyway and nobody has killed me yet.

Posted by: cjhmhch at September 18, 2020 11:16 AM (eSgwh)

Missed one. Anyone got a scope on cjhmhch?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 18, 2020 11:23 AM

*chuckles evilly*

Posted by: The Barrel at September 18, 2020 11:36 AM (ejd/p)

233 ...I absolutely agree, though I put it slightly differently. I put this as "the next election where the Democrats make significant national gains and/or win the presidency is the last election that ever mattered."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2020 11:02 AM (hYcqw)

Weasel, your post put it rather nicely. We do bear some of the responsibility ourselves.

The Left has some very powerful weapons at their disposal. One of the most powerful is their incrementalism.

Back during the fight over the ERA, Schlafly put it very simply that if the ERA passed, women could be drafted to fight and we'd have gay marriage. While there is some room for discussion on the merits of each today, it was very different 40+ years ago. Laying it out like that a couple of generations ago forced the voters to confront that possibility, and they didn't like that result.

Learning from that, the Left decided not to take that direct approach again, and now they just say 'just this, and that's all'. That of course never happens, and we don't notice until where we're at today, and all the elites now think that showing Cuties is just fine and dandy, and you're a Philistine if you don't sit back and enjoy it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 18, 2020 11:36 AM (4tiP2)

234 You're a logically fallacy!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:25 AM (xfb67)

You're a towel!
Posted by: Towelie at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (dtx0j)

Wanna get high?
Posted by: Insomniac

I was gonna go vote, but sure!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:36 AM (gJBE5)

235 >>>Yet, my points are valid and shared by 10s of millions if not over 100 million in our country. Keep attacking using ad hominem.

Erm, isn't that an example of argument ad populum?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 18, 2020 11:36 AM (vuisn)

236 211 203 Kim Klacik is fine by me, but her candidacy is a mirage. She'll be lucky to get 30%, REALLY lucky, & everybody knows that. 25% more likely. Maybe less.

So, going on hostile TV shows won't hurt her chances of winning at all.
Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 11:29 AM (Cssks)

You are correct - the idea that the vote in her district won't be rigged in advance is laughable. So, she's building her media presence for a future media position TBD.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:31 AM (Kpl3J)

I don't expect her to win but I think it's good that she has run. Too often the GOP lets seats go uncontested and her running has perhaps made the Dems toss some money into that district or at least made her opponent spend some money instead of just getting to pocket it. That needs to happen more.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:37 AM (dtx0j)

237 Except it ain't just Dad following that course...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:33 AM (NWiLs)
-------------------

I lived both sides of the divorce wars, so, my views might be slightly colored by personal experience.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 11:37 AM (WEBkv)

238 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (WEBkv)

That's better...a little nuance is always welcome.

Posted by: creeper at September 18, 2020 11:37 AM (XxJt1)

239 >>>>And Free Markets (their religion), along with corporations, and money for themsleves.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:31 AM (P0ZO

<<<<
They don't truly believe in "free markets". They believe in America letting every other country rip off America. If they believed in "free markets" they'd support Trump's attempts to get China to be a "free market" - which would include IP protections, not using slave labor, not manipulating their currency, not dumping products at below cost, etc.

No, they don't believe in "free markets" at all. It's a complete lie to claim that trade between the U.S. and China involves a "free market" when China is anything but a "free market".

Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:37 AM (gd3bR)

240 >>They never should have had their own cigarette. That was a big mistake.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 18, 2020 11:29 AM (wPVhA)

This reminds me of Tiparillos. Yeah, that was a good look, ladies.

Posted by: Caliban at September 18, 2020 11:37 AM (QE8X6)

241 The left thought it was over with Obama. They had won it all and they were permanently in charge forever.

Trump wining shocked them to the core and broke them.

The left is more dangerous now then they ever have been.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM (xfb67)

242 Ehhh ... sorry. My collective guilt thingy is busted. I don't do collective guilt anymore. Americans are basically good people ruled by evil vindictive assholes.

The blame for an assault lies with the assailants. We've been abused by these people for a century now.
Posted by: MadRocketSci at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (hRoyQ)

I'm a man of 4 races. No collective. No tribe. My only choice is to be an American or an outsider in some homogeneous society. I would vastly prefer to be an American, in an America that remembers itself.

That these people want to carve it into pieces and parcel it out according to identity makes my blood boil. I'm sick of the false divisions, pseudohistory, and gaslighting. I'm sick of having to pretend that spoiled Ivy League twats who have never worked an honest day in their life have valid opinions.

I'm sick of kleptocrats robbing us blind. This can't go on... and one way or another, if won't.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM (pZ58d)

243 235
Erm, isn't that an example of argument ad populum?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 18, 2020 11:36 AM (vuisn)

=========

"Avatar is the greatest movie ever because it made the most money ever."
-James Cameron, 2009

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM (UWqZJ)

244 Kim Klacik's stand on various issues from her website. I have never heard her described as a libertarian or social liberal. But hey, lets write her off because of something I read on the internet and that means she doesn't meet the purity test.

https://kimkforcongress.com/issues-page/#1599150228403-70276fbf-30ab

Don't pay attention to the endorsements she has from Trump,Guiliani, Sara Carter, Jack Posobiec, Sebastian Gorka , or Mark Levin. Nope, she is a snake in the grass.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM (BPeHW)

245 Don't women file in 70-80% of instances?

I'm not saying it didn't come about because Dad was still interested in having sex, but just the actual act of of initiating the legal end of the marriage.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM (NKuIh)

246
LOL! I have yet to meet a liberal who was at all shy about expressing his/her/xer opinion about politics. They would bash Reagan in the 80's because they assumed that if they liked you and you seemed intelligent, of course, you would agree with them.

And I doubt they get shyer in red states. They know conservatives won't get them fired or slash their tires. And I'm sure red state libs enjoy feeling like they are sooooo much smarter than all the yahoos around them.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (HabA/)

Very well stated.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 18, 2020 11:39 AM (TdMsT)

247 241 The left thought it was over with Obama. They had won it all and they were permanently in charge forever.

Trump wining shocked them to the core and broke them.

The left is more dangerous now then they ever have been.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM (xfb67)

=========

Hillary and a solid 5-4 SCOTUS gave them everything they wanted.

The 2nd Amendment would have been on the chopping block within two years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:39 AM (UWqZJ)

248 Our state is the United States of America. Their state is a slow boat to wherever their ancestors came from.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 11:21 AM (pZ58d)

Exactly. If we let them have a single square inch of the US the ChiComs will be there the day after.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-now with more Disturbed) at September 18, 2020 11:39 AM (N3El/)

249 72 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (ptqGC)

Ya'll STOP.

It's like an X-ray/MRI, lying on the table. They moved the machine, not me.
There are foam blocks involved, so they can keep joints in place for a while.
Not really uncomfortable, unless you have back probs.

Posted by: Sal at September 18, 2020 11:39 AM (KTdeA)

250 -

Scenario: Purple states that have a slight majority of repubs also
refuse to certify the elections of any of their republican house
members. Old congress is out Jan 3. New house now has a majority of
states delegation voting blue.

Is this remotely possible?

"Each State shall appoint" Shall seems compulsory to me, failure to send them is legally actionable, no?

Posted by: common sense at September 18, 2020 11:35 AM

-------------------------------------

The scenario was in the case the Prez election was thrown into the house.

Posted by: irright at September 18, 2020 11:39 AM (pMGkg)

251 222 Then, that insidious doctrine came about, the one that said, "You can't make others happy unless you first make yourself happy." Couple that with making it much easier to get a divorce and you've got families being destroyed because Dad decided he needed to be "happy" and happiness was defined by a new, younger squeeze.

Except it ain't just Dad following that course...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 18, 2020 11:33 AM (NWiLs)

The data bears out that it's largely been driven by women ever since no-fault was created. Divorce prior to that wasn't all that common.

Worth noting that most modern messaging still encourages men to be relatively responsible, while encouraging women to do stupid, destructive, and childish things.

Men leaving their wives for a younger squeeze is really only possible if they're wealthy(which is duh a small proportion of men).

Posted by: Someguy at September 18, 2020 11:39 AM (Zm+LZ)

252
The "conservative"' Academic and Professional Classes really fucked things up the last 30 years and more.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (P0ZO

The Judge Smails wing of the GOP. Been saying that for 30 fucking years after I saw caddy shack. You know when I was first hit in the face with that? Around 1990 I had to work for one, well actually the boss was cool, was a green beret field capt in vietnam, but his wife...holy shit. I made a comment about the jersey state troopers. I said their uniforms were taken right from the nazi gestapo. Man she started lecturing me about how that uniform commands respect, and blah blah. I said that uniform represents millions and millions of dead on the planet, why the fuck would jersey troopers choose that. She didn't want to hear it. Just like judge smails, sentenced him to death because he felt he "owed" it to him, and don't sully my country club. This was the same bitch that marched me in front of her stuffy parents and said "can you believe this is a conservative republican?". Yeah, long hair, jeans and a T shirt. No way could I be a republican. That was the day I figured out that there was the stuffy "judge smails" wing, and the rodney dangerfield "Al cervik" wing of the gop. Sorry, old Al knows how to have fucking fun, I'm on his side.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (9Om/r)

253 My mother got married and had her first child when she was nineteen. She was an incredibly intelligent woman who could not find satisfaction in being solely a wife and mother. It destroyed her family.

One size does not fit all.

Posted by: creeper at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (XxJt1)

254 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (ptqGC)

Easy peasy. You lay down on a table and a machine rolls over (above) you. They position you a couple times. It's like 5 or 10 minutes. Literally nothing to it.

Posted by: ... at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (0FvcZ)

255 The left is more dangerous now then they ever have been.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM (xfb67)

They're desperate and crazed, like a cornered shithouse rat.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (pZ58d)

256 Trump wining shocked them to the core and broke them.

The left is more dangerous now then they ever have been.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Kyle Rittenhouse and the Kenosha Hat Trick should have shown them that they aren't.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (gJBE5)

257 Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:34 AM (gd3bR)

Agree. Add to that the hatred of Trump's base and the balls of the CDC to name and consider Whiteness as a disease. 65% of Americans are a disease.
Things are fucked up to say the least.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (P0ZO8)

258 It's like an X-ray/MRI, lying on the table. They moved the machine, not me.
There are foam blocks involved, so they can keep joints in place for a while.
Not really uncomfortable, unless you have back probs.
Posted by: Sal at September 18, 2020 11:39 AM (KTdeA)

So the bone xylophone test isn't really a thing then?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (wPVhA)

259
Does everything they are doing right now really feel like winning to you?

Honestly? Yes.

They're rioting, burning down entire fucking cities, and they get *NO CONSEQUENCES*.

They protest at some random dude's house. He's in the window with a shotgun(?) and *HE* gets arrested.

They're teaching our kids to hate themselves if they're white, and hate their country no matter what their color.

And we sit here and go "dear me, whatever should we do?" or "someone should shoot these fuckers" and the one person that *does* has enough charges slapped on him to put him in jail for something like 127 years.

Voting is going to do *nothing* about any of these things.

Posted by: GMan at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (sxq57)

260 I think I was late to the bone density conversation.

Posted by: ... at September 18, 2020 11:41 AM (0FvcZ)

261 Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:34 AM (gd3bR)

To further your point, even though we didn't see it at the time, McCain and Romney losing was better for the country in the long run.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 18, 2020 11:41 AM (y7DUB)

262 Then, that insidious doctrine came about, the one that said, "You can't make others happy unless you first make yourself happy." Couple that with making it much easier to get a divorce and you've got families being destroyed because Dad decided he needed to be "happy" and happiness was defined by a new, younger squeeze.

That first generation of kids from broken homes were then taught "you can have it all." Two working parents, with a ton of income, even more debt, no matter you're paying someone else to look after your kids, no need to buy a starter house, get that big 4 bedroom 3 bath house...easy credit, because, two incomes!

You then wind up with two parents coming home, exhausted, dealing with the demands of children, running them everywhere to make up for the guilt of scheduling them in around work...and, due to these pressures, marriages start coming apart, and, men wind up paying this time around, because the first time around, they were the ones leaving.

Yay us!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 11:26 AM (WEBkv)

Oh so much this!

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 18, 2020 11:41 AM (Ez6QX)

263 Kyle Rittenhouse

Has a chance to go to prison for the rest of his life for that.

Posted by: GMan at September 18, 2020 11:41 AM (sxq57)

264 No comfort in it but we have historic company in our self destruction. Limiting the voting restrictions to just age has contributed most to this destruction.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 18, 2020 11:41 AM (PxTjI)

265 236

I don't expect her to win but I think it's good that she has run. Too often the GOP lets seats go uncontested and her running has perhaps made the Dems toss some money into that district or at least made her opponent spend some money instead of just getting to pocket it. That needs to happen more.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:37 AM

I think the most important and influential part of her campaign is her message.

Remember that Ronald Reagan did not win the nomination when he first ran for President. But he kept on with his message.

Her message is extremely important. This is the first time we have prominent, influential Black Americans challenging the Democrat plantation message. And I think it's awesome.

The more people who see the messages of Kim Klacik and the Hodge Twins and Candace Owens and even Kanye West, the better. The more it will give courage to other Black Americans to start questioning the leftist narrative and thinking for themselves as well. Strength in numbers.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 18, 2020 11:41 AM (Do5/p)

266 They don't truly believe in "free markets". They believe in America letting every other country rip off America. If they believed in "free markets" they'd support Trump's attempts to get China to be a "free market" - which would include IP protections, not using slave labor, not manipulating their currency, not dumping products at below cost, etc.

No, they don't believe in "free markets" at all. It's a complete lie to claim that trade between the U.S. and China involves a "free market" when China is anything but a "free market".
Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:37 AM (gd3bR)
+++++++++++++
They don't believe in free markets. They believe in free trade as the core principle. This is a bad belief. Free trade when you have parity in underlying rights is a net benefit. Asymmetrical free trade - where one party (us) has no restrictions and the other party (say, the PRC) has no property rights of any kind, slave labor, currency manipulations, state-run credit, tariffs and more - is insanity.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2020 11:41 AM (hYcqw)

267 246
LOL! I have yet to meet a liberal who was at all shy about expressing his/her/xer opinion about politics. They would bash Reagan in the 80's because they assumed that if they liked you and you seemed intelligent, of course, you would agree with them.

And I doubt they get shyer in red states. They know conservatives won't get them fired or slash their tires. And I'm sure red state libs enjoy feeling like they are sooooo much smarter than all the yahoos around them.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 18, 2020 11:27 AM (HabA/)

Very well stated.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 18

The person at Bidens townhall crying about the sea of Trump signs in their neighborhood but they have their Biden sign. I very much doubt that image is reversed anywhere. Because the Trump supporter knows they cannot trust their neighbors to not vandalize their home for having a Trump sign in a sea of Biden signs.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:42 AM (dtx0j)

268 >> 65% of Americans are a disease.
Things are fucked up to say the least.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (P0ZO

Do you have a final solution in mind?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 18, 2020 11:42 AM (vuisn)

269 I see that Pepe is still very annoying.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:25 AM (dtx0j)

Wasn't *he banned a few months ago?

I'm, er, asking for a friend.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:42 AM (Z4rgH)

270 Hillary and a solid 5-4 SCOTUS gave them everything they wanted.

The 2nd Amendment would have been on the chopping block within two years.
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I don't think they'll EFF it up this time if given the chance. If Biden wins I expect an end to the filibuster, mass amnesty, and a generation of progressive policies.

Posted by: MJ at September 18, 2020 11:42 AM (gAMkn)

271 White people are a pestilence upon this land.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 18, 2020 11:43 AM (wPVhA)

272 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (9Om/r)

The social is the political, and women dominate the social battlefield when given any opportunity to do so.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:43 AM (P0ZO8)

273 "Avatar is the greatest movie ever because it made the most money ever."
-James Cameron, 2009
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM

"A king has his reign, and then he dies. It's inevitable. That is the natural order of things."
-- Meredith Vickers, in Prometheus

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 18, 2020 11:43 AM (DMUuz)

274 Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:34 AM (gd3bR)

To further your point, even though we didn't see it at the time, McCain and Romney losing was better for the country in the long run.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 18, 2020 11:41 AM (y7DUB)

We're at a point of either a Civil War or a two state solution and you think those losses were better for the long run?

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 18, 2020 11:43 AM (PxTjI)

275 Kyle Rittenhouse

Has a chance to go to prison for the rest of his life for that.
Posted by: GMan

Has a great legal team that's going to do everything in it's power to see that doesn't happen.

Funny how that's dropped off the radar once they got involved.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:43 AM (gJBE5)

276 270 Hillary and a solid 5-4 SCOTUS gave them everything they wanted.

The 2nd Amendment would have been on the chopping block within two years.
---------------------
I don't think they'll EFF it up this time if given the chance. If Biden wins I expect an end to the filibuster, mass amnesty, and a generation of progressive policies.
Posted by: MJ at September 18, 2020 11:42 AM (gAMkn)

==========

They'll go the path that the VA Democrats have laid out in the last two years:

"Get everything now."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:43 AM (UWqZJ)

277 Welp, I've got to get ready to go in for a bone density scan. Anyone here know what's involved?

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 18, 2020 11:10 AM (ptqGC)

The Paolo, he knows all about bone density.

Posted by: The Paolo at September 18, 2020 11:44 AM (Izzlo)

278 Now with women in the workforce it takes two.

Good job everyone! That worked out swell!
Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (qlFIA)

Phyllis Schlafly pointed this out to the feminists back in the late '60's. But she was Evil Incarnate, so no one listened.

Posted by: Sal at September 18, 2020 11:44 AM (KTdeA)

279 Watched Kim Klacik in the view. Not sure how I got through it. Joy Behar is toxic. Kim called her out for wearing blackface. Joy and Sunny had immediate tantrums. I sure hope Kim wins that seat.

Rage would be a better name for Joy.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at September 18, 2020 11:44 AM (1eJby)

280 On that note, let's drink!

Posted by: Eli Cash at September 18, 2020 11:44 AM (67sg6)

281 >>>>To further your point, even though we didn't see it
at the time, McCain and Romney losing was better for the country in the
long run.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 18, 2020 11:41 AM (y7DUB)<<<<
Only if Trump wins 2020, the GOP keeps the Senate, and hopefully picks up the house.
But even then, I don't have much hope in a GOP-controlled congress to actually push Trump's agenda forward. I see more lawfare to stop Trump's executive orders, more failure theater in congress, and attempts to simply stymie Trump and wait him out.

We (the conservative voters) are still going to have to punish the GOP and prove to the GOP that either they pursue the conservative agenda they fund-raise on and campaign on or they won't win elections. I wouldn't do that this year or in 2022 if Trump wins 2020, but at some point we have to do it. They need to fear their base more than they love leftism/globalism.

Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:44 AM (gd3bR)

282 268 >> 65% of Americans are a disease.
Things are fucked up to say the least.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (P0ZO

Do you have a final solution in mind?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 18, 2020 11:42 AM (vuisn)

No, but our Ruling and Donor classes do.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:45 AM (P0ZO8)

283 253 My mother got married and had her first child when she was nineteen. She was an incredibly intelligent woman who could not find satisfaction in being solely a wife and mother. It destroyed her family.

One size does not fit all.
Posted by: creeper at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (XxJt1)

If men acted the same way when unsatisfied with their jobs society would collapse. Although arguably society is collapsing because of women acting that way when unsatisfied with their jobs.

Posted by: Someguy at September 18, 2020 11:45 AM (Zm+LZ)

284 Trump winning shocked them to the core and broke them.

The left is more dangerous now then they ever have been.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM (xfb67)

===============

I'll grant a touch of context though.

The rest of us aren't more dangerous than we've ever been, but we might be a little more aware. They need to remember our side was and is perfectly OK with Hiroshima and glass parking lots. We'll regret it was necessary, though.

There's a trigger on our side, and it takes alot to set it off, and it might be much harder today than it was 75 years ago. But I'll go to my grave believing that it's still there and that when pulled the entire world shudders.

I don't want that trigger pulled. I'll beg them with tears in my eyes not to make us pull it. But that doesn't mean we won't.

Posted by: Cold Rage at September 18, 2020 11:45 AM (OXSar)

285 273 "Avatar is the greatest movie ever because it made the most money ever."
-James Cameron, 2009
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM

"A king has his reign, and then he dies. It's inevitable. That is the natural order of things."
-- Meredith Vickers, in Prometheus
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 18, 2020 11:43 AM (DMUuz)

=========

I like the little tradition of the last movie's director sending out a drawn picture in celebration of the next biggest movie ever. It started when ET outgrossed Star Wars, I believe.

It's cute.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:45 AM (UWqZJ)

286 "I got hoodwinked since 2000. Bush the Lesser was quite frankly

nothing more than a democrat."

Bush senior was CIA ... Trump broke the mold of the shadow men choosing our POTUS candidates. (I hope, if he is just more controlled opposition, we are finished ... heh.)

Reagan ... kinda broke the mold, still got saddled with Bush. Lots of deficit spending got rolling back then, China trade was flowing ... deficits and easy money has not slowed down, it has accelerated. The elite have loved that, as running the money is more lucrative than doing the actual production. That is a different monetary policy aspect of things ... (but a big part of where our economic wars are fought now)

Posted by: illiniwek at September 18, 2020 11:46 AM (Cus5s)

287 Here's that first drawing:

https://tinyurl.com/y4hkdrvo

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:46 AM (UWqZJ)

288 Trump wining shocked them to the core and broke them.

The left is more dangerous now then they ever have been.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

I just got here from a music site I frequent. Man, the Trump derangement is strong over there. Bunch of Liberals.
Someone posts a Lincoln Project ad and I say, "Guys, these are NeverTrumpers, aka Neocons, the people who brought you all those wars you hated."

Doesn't matter. OrangemanBad.

They are quoting that Vanity Fair article that has Kushner sitting in a High Chair, a supposed new thing I never heard of before--that the Post Office was going to mail out 650,000,000 masks in April but Trump nixed it.

What's that about?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 18, 2020 11:47 AM (HrMC1)

289 We (the conservative voters) are still going to have to punish the GOP and prove to the GOP that either they pursue the conservative agenda they fund-raise on and campaign on or they won't win elections. I wouldn't do that this year or in 2022 if Trump wins 2020, but at some point we have to do it. They need to fear their base more than they love leftism/globalism.
Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:44 AM (gd3bR)

100% on board.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 18, 2020 11:47 AM (y7DUB)

290 Now with women in the workforce it takes two.

Good job everyone! That worked out swell!
Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2020 11:15 AM (qlFIA)

Phyllis Schlafly pointed this out to the feminists back in the late '60's. But she was Evil Incarnate, so no one listened.
Posted by: Sal at September 18, 2020 11:44 AM (KTdeA)
+++++++++++++
The large scale movement of middle class women into the workforce had two causes, and *either* would have had the same net effect of compressing average wages and maintaining essentially static household wages. The first was the "women out of the home, in a career, contributing for self-fulfillment" piece. The other, though, which is rarely mentioned, is the inflation driven by the spendthrift government that hit in the 70s and the (requisite) abolition of the gold and silver standard.

That inflation put paid to the single-earner middle class household, and would have regardless of underling social currents. People needed more money, and their earning power was being inflated away by braindead policy. That would require more entrants into the workforce even without other factors. The only reason the effective doubling of the middle class workforce didn't cause wage declines is because it absorbed the inflation. That would have happened anyway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2020 11:47 AM (hYcqw)

291 >>>We're at a point of either a Civil War or a two state solution and you think those losses were better for the long run?

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 18, 2020 11:43 AM (PxTjI)<<<
Had either won, they would have furthered the leftist/globalist agenda - only a little slower than Obama did. And, it is unlikely, absent Obama, that Trump would have won in 2016.

So, yes, their losses were better for the U.S. in the long run.

Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:47 AM (gd3bR)

292 The rest of us aren't more dangerous than we've ever been, but we might be a little more aware. They need to remember our side was and is perfectly OK with Hiroshima and glass parking lots. We'll regret it was necessary, though.

There's a trigger on our side, and it takes alot to set it off, and it might be much harder today than it was 75 years ago. But I'll go to my grave believing that it's still there and that when pulled the entire world shudders.

I don't want that trigger pulled. I'll beg them with tears in my eyes not to make us pull it. But that doesn't mean we won't.
Posted by: Cold Rage

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This!
So very much this.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:47 AM (gJBE5)

293 Two State Solutions never work. NEVER.

They trash their place then attack ours.

Just look at what they've done to California.

Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 11:48 AM (nUhF0)

294 Weasel stole my childhood monkey and his typewriter.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at September 18, 2020 11:49 AM (EgshT)

295 I'm in Illinois and I've seen about 3 Trump signs. I've got one in my garage but do not trust my neighbors to put it out. So many Dem signs (not Biden). I have 2 small children. What's worse for them? Putting them at potential risk of having my house damaged, mob action outside, etc., or sitting here afraid while the left ruins their entire future.

The fact that I have to think this way makes me angry enough to load for bear, put the sign out and hope for a mob action.

Posted by: Eli Cash at September 18, 2020 11:49 AM (67sg6)

296 233
Back during the fight over the ERA, Schlafly put it very simply that if the ERA passed, women could be drafted to fight and we'd have gay marriage. While there is some room for discussion on the merits of each today, it was very different 40+ years ago. Laying it out like that a couple of generations ago forced the voters to confront that possibility, and they didn't like that result.

Learning from that, the Left decided not to take that direct approach again, and now they just say 'just this, and that's all'. That of course never happens, and we don't notice until where we're at today, and all the elites now think that showing Cuties is just fine and dandy, and you're a Philistine if you don't sit back and enjoy it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

I think there lesson was a little different: to achieve their goals, they couldn't use the ballot box.The left understood before Breitbart did: politics is downstream of culture The Left redoubled their efforts to grab the schools and the entertainment and even business. When new ways of communications came up, they grabbed those too (the internet was a great conservative tool that favored us before Twitter and Google and Reddit.)

And then they pushed equal rights for women *in the culture*, and won overwhelmingly. (Women in the 50s and 60s felt sorry for Russian women because they had to hold down jobs AND raise children, for example. We went from that to women being horrified someone might them them unqualified for military combat positions.) And absolutely everything Schlafly warned about has come true, even her warning about bathrooms, which I remember her being mocked for at the time. And without any vote at all - it was a change by brainwashing people with a steady drumbeat of propaganda.

To overgeneralize, the right redoubled our efforts to organize politically to protect ourselves, and the left made a decision to grab the culture. We see now who made the smarter choice. It will take a lot of work to fix things.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at September 18, 2020 11:49 AM (GZ/yK)

297 Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:47 AM (gd3bR)

I obviously disagree. If you think Obama winning just damaged us a little more than either of the other two would have we are on the opposite side of theoretical outcomes.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 18, 2020 11:49 AM (PxTjI)

298 Of course it's not being covered by the MSM, but the US Marshals Service has been very busy the past few weeks, rounding up criminals and saving missing children. Might be the last Federal law enforcement agency loyal to their oath. The statue of Bass Reeves in downtown Fort Smith smiles.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at September 18, 2020 11:50 AM (C1Lsn)

299 The next misstep could well be our last.

That's what gives us hope. We only need one more election to finish this bitch!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at September 18, 2020 11:50 AM (z36Kd)

300 I don't want that trigger pulled. I'll beg them with tears in my eyes not to make us pull it. But that doesn't mean we won't.
Posted by: Cold Rage

This sounds like a paraphrase of a Mattis quote, and he didn't work out so well in the long run.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:50 AM (Z4rgH)

301 297 Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:47 AM (gd3bR)

I obviously disagree. If you think Obama winning just damaged us a little more than either of the other two would have we are on the opposite side of theoretical outcomes.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 18, 2020 11:49 AM (PxTjI)

==========

We probably would have gotten into a ground war in Iran with McCain.

Better or worse than Obama giving Iran a billion dollars?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:50 AM (UWqZJ)

302 293 Two State Solutions never work. NEVER.

They trash their place then attack ours.

Just look at what they've done to California.
Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 11:48 AM (nUhF0)

It might make the war cleaner though. I'm open to the idea as a temporary state of affairs.

Posted by: Someguy at September 18, 2020 11:50 AM (Zm+LZ)

303 >>Honestly? Yes.

>>They're rioting, burning down entire fucking cities, and they get *NO CONSEQUENCES*.

>>They protest at some random dude's house. He's in the window with a shotgun(?) and *HE* gets arrested.

>>They're teaching our kids to hate themselves if they're white, and hate their country no matter what their color.

>>And we sit here and go "dear me, whatever should we do?" or "someone should shoot these fuckers" and the one person that *does* has enough charges slapped on him to put him in jail for something like 127 years.

>>Voting is going to do *nothing* about any of these things.

But they are being arrested. Wherever the feds are allowed to go the rioting has stopped. Hundreds of gun arrests in Chicago alone. Federal arrests.

And there most definitely are consequences. We now have the Minneapolis City Council whining "Were are the police?" as crime is spiking and the city is broke and broken. And it won't be getting fixed anytime soon. This is happening in blue cities from NYC to Portland. They had their summer of love and now they will have a long ass winter of discontent.

If you remember, we were told the White House was going to be under siege starting September 17. Then it was leaked that the DOJ was considering sedition charges for rioters. No siege at the White House.

Just yesterday Trump started a campaign to strip schools of the idiotic and poisons critical race garbage and institute a more historically accurate and patriotic curriculum. Federal funding works both ways, we dan weird it as a weapon as well as the left.

I didn't say they gave up, I said they are losing. Of course they will keep fighting and so we have to fight even harder. We started this way behind but we are winning now. It's a constant fight and we won't win ever battle but we can win the war.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 11:50 AM (ZLI7S)

304 Think of the pressure and hate that Romney would have faced for beating the magic SCOAMF! He would have gone farther left than Bernie to make it stop.

Thank God for Trump.

Posted by: Eli Cash at September 18, 2020 11:51 AM (67sg6)

305 Van Morrison (??!??!!) goes nuclear on the lockdown

The article is flamboyantly biased against him, but who would have guessed that Van Morrison of all people would be the first musician to do this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-54194408

"Northern Ireland's health minister has described three new songs by Sir Van Morrison that protest against coronavirus lockdowns as "dangerous".

In the lyrics, Sir Van claims scientists are "making up crooked facts" to justify measures that "enslave" the population.

"The new normal, is not normal," he sings. "We were born to be free".
...
Mr Swann said: "I don't know where he gets his facts. I know where the emotions are on this, but I will say that sort of messaging is dangerous.

"Our messaging is about saving lives.

"If Van wanted to sing a song about saving lives, then that would be more in keeping with where we are at the minute."
...
No More Lockdown is the most strident of the three tracks.

"No more lockdown / No more government overreach," the musician sings in the chorus. "No more fascist bullies / Disturbing our peace.

"No more taking of our freedom / And our God given rights / Pretending it's for our safety / When it's really to enslave."

Sir Van has previously caused controversy by denouncing what he called the "pseudoscience" around coronavirus.

Launching a campaign to "save live music" on his website last month, the 75-year-old said socially-distanced gigs were not economically viable.

"I call on my fellow singers, musicians, writers, producers, promoters and others in the industry to fight with me on this. Come forward, stand up, fight the pseudo-science and speak up."

Sir Van said his new songs would be released at two-week intervals with the first, Born To Be Free, arriving on 25 September."

These new songs are G-L-O-R-ious!

Posted by: zombie at September 18, 2020 11:51 AM (HEEq1)

306 Exactly. If we let them have a single square inch of the US the ChiComs will be there the day after.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-now with more Disturbed) at September 18, 2020 11:39 AM (N3El/)

Especially if they have any Pacific ports. Within a week, it'd be full of Chinese troopships, with those troops headed to our borders.

Surrendering land for peace is only buying time.

Unless we accelerate plans for Mars colonization (and building a starfleet to blockade the Earth and make sure the totalitarians never escape into the broader universe), it's a plan to lose.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 11:51 AM (pZ58d)

307 "Avatar is the greatest movie ever because it made the most money ever."
-James Cameron, 2009
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:38 AM (UWqZJ)

What a f***ing dumb ass. But we HAVE to stop calling what these people do "art." Btw, there was a good link here two days ago on the "science" magic energy hoaxing that started with a reference to the movie.

Posted by: Konstantin Chernenko at September 18, 2020 11:52 AM (BRkq2)

308 That inflation put paid to the single-earner middle class household, and would have regardless of underling social currents. People needed more money, and their earning power was being inflated away by braindead policy. That would require more entrants into the workforce even without other factors. The only reason the effective doubling of the middle class workforce didn't cause wage declines is because it absorbed the inflation. That would have happened anyway.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2020 11:47 AM (hYcqw)

Good point.

I believe this was around the same time Americans got heavily into credit cards.
You needed a new hot water heater? Or TV?
In the past most Americans would pay cash--even if they had to borrow the money from a family member.
But credit made it easy to get it NOW.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 18, 2020 11:52 AM (HrMC1)

309 I don't think they'll EFF it up this time if given
the chance. If Biden wins I expect an end to the filibuster, mass
amnesty, and a generation of progressive policies.

Posted by: MJ at September 18, 2020 11:42 AM (gAMkn)

==========

They'll go the path that the VA Democrats have laid out in the last two years:

"Get everything now."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:43 AM (UWqZJ)

Without a doubt. They're already pushing their Maoist Cultural Revolution with only Trump standing in their way. If they can get rid of him we'll go full communist revolution.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 18, 2020 11:52 AM (Aa/NE)

310 Kim Klacik is a libertarian. She said she is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. She is not on our side.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (P0ZO

Or maybe she is, and you're not.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

311 Hell yes, Jack Straw!

Posted by: Eli Cash at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (67sg6)

312

"Operation Oscar" just announced in Quebec City, Quebec.

All police enforcement across the province will search all bars and restaurants this weekend, sweeping across the province, to find those not adhering to wuhan virus rules.

wow

as their cases are spiking again, and one of the heads of one of their parties and his wife are tested positive

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (rjE57)

313 I'm all for our side to cheat to win this election. Lets be the 1976 Raiders. (Personally, there are a few assholes in my neighborhood who I wouldn't mind Jack Tatuming when I see them.)

We'll be accused of cheating anyway, so lets do it. Everything their side has done has been to undermine the Republic and the greater body politic, so lets cheat, and better yet, tell them we cheated.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (DY3v8)

314 Lot's of noise on how there isn't a single Second Amendment line in Trump's second term agenda. I think everyone realizes the alternative is the Democrats promised bans, outright confiscation and loading of the bench with anti Second Amendment judges, so there really isn't an overriding issue. But Trump's judicial picks have yet to prove their support for the Second Amendment and there are no specific items on the agenda. At best, that leaves a void.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (VpIIl)

315 oops. clingy Soviet sock.

Posted by: Gilded at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (BRkq2)

316 The fact that I have to think this way makes me angry enough to load for bear, put the sign out and hope for a mob action.
Posted by: Eli Cash

I won't even consider a bumper sticker or a sign.
Seattle is not a very tolerant place.

call me a coward. I've been called worse.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (W2Pud)

317 This sounds like a paraphrase of a Mattis quote, and he didn't work out so well in the long run.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:50 AM (Z4rgH)

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What good is a well-turned phrase if you can't steal it?

The messenger was a disappointment, but that doesn't invalidate the power of the message.

Posted by: Cold Rage at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (OXSar)

318 253 My mother got married and had her first child when she was nineteen. She was an incredibly intelligent woman who could not find satisfaction in being solely a wife and mother. It destroyed her family.

One size does not fit all.
Posted by: creeper at September 18, 2020 11:40 AM (XxJt1)

Except that it's got nothing to do with intelligence, I want to agree with you. I'd say it doesn't have much to do with satisfaction either. It's just that some women really love small children and other women, even if they love their own, very sincerely do not. If given the choice between working at a daycare and living under a bridge, they'll start scoping out bridges.

And that's before making an assessment if you're reasonably capable of organizing your own life or desperately need the imposed organization of schedule and tasks that someone gets in a work place.

Posted by: Synova at September 18, 2020 11:54 AM (BD/yx)

319 Van Morrison got knighted? Who knew?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 18, 2020 11:54 AM (dfRN6)

320 It is times like these I wish that every day political ads for the past 30 years had not all said "this election is the most important evah!!!1!!"

Because this one actually is that important.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 18, 2020 11:54 AM (JRaU+)

321 Surrendering land for peace is only buying time.

Unless we accelerate plans for Mars colonization (and building a starfleet to blockade the Earth and make sure the totalitarians never escape into the broader universe), it's a plan to lose.
Posted by: Cato

I saw we accelerate plans for Pluto colonization and how we are going to send them there.

This is MY birthright. Not theirs.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:54 AM (gJBE5)

322 I'll grant a touch of context though.

The rest of us aren't more dangerous than we've ever been, but we
might be a little more aware. They need to remember our side was and is
perfectly OK with Hiroshima and glass parking lots. We'll regret it was
necessary, though.

There's a trigger on our side, and it takes alot to set it off, and
it might be much harder today than it was 75 years ago. But I'll go to
my grave believing that it's still there and that when pulled the entire
world shudders.

I don't want that trigger pulled. I'll beg them with tears in my eyes not to make us pull it. But that doesn't mean we won't.

Posted by: Cold Rage at September 18, 2020 11:45 AM (OXSar)

Totally this. We have a long fuse because we know what it means. The left is out there burning down cities without a single thought about what comes after, because they are the destroyers. We know what comes after, because we are the builders, so we're a bit slower to act. The thing is, once we do act, we won't stop until there is nobody left to complain, and unfortunately it seems like it will have to go there.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 18, 2020 11:54 AM (9Om/r)

323 To overgeneralize, the right redoubled our efforts to organize politically to protect ourselves, and the left made a decision to grab the culture. We see now who made the smarter choice. It will take a lot of work to fix things.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at September 18, 2020 11:49 AM (GZ/yK)

MTT, you're exactly right about this. I also misremembered about the bathroom issue - it was that, rather than gay marriage, that Schlafly was talking about.

The greatness of Trump (or at least one of them) is that he's fearless about going into the lion's den to fight for this in their Forum, the media. The Snuffalupagous's Town Hall this week is proof of that.

I defy anyone to name a national GOP politician who would do the same thing, in front of a hilariously biased crowd. That Tapper anti-gun one comes to mind, but Senator Dondi only showed up there to pander, IIRC.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 18, 2020 11:55 AM (4tiP2)

324 please consider supporting Kathy Barnette, another young black Trump supporter running in PA-4 (Montgomery County)

Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 11:55 AM (nUhF0)

325 319 Van Morrison got knighted? Who knew?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher

By now they've knighted just about every single surviving '60s rock star.

Posted by: zombie at September 18, 2020 11:55 AM (HEEq1)

326 All,

I apologize, but I am/have been feeling extremely eyeorish about all this.

I don't see a good way out of this. If Biden wins, we're going full on cultural revolution, supported by the government.

If Trump wins, we're STILL going full on cultural revolution, but *maybe* *some* of the fedgov will oppose it.

Posted by: Gman at September 18, 2020 11:55 AM (GfWuY)

327 Wasn't *he banned a few months ago?

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:42 AM (Z4rgH)

Yes, he was, but we are tolerating him for the time being until he steps over the line.

What's the over/under on that?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (xT2tT)

328 Watched Kim Klacik in the view. Not sure how I got through it. Joy Behar is toxic. Kim called her out for wearing blackface. Joy and Sunny had immediate tantrums. I sure hope Kim wins that seat.

Rage would be a better name for Joy.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at September 18, 2020 11:44 AM (1eJby)

It becomes patently obvious to anyone paying attention, that an otherwise obscure candidate for a Congressional seat is given more scrutiny, and attacked with gusto by corporate media, when these very same people give the candidate for the Presidency scripted questions, with the opportunity to use a teleprompter from which he can read his answers.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (hku12)

329 I won't even consider a bumper sticker or a sign.
Seattle is not a very tolerant place.

call me a coward. I've been called worse.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (W2Pud)
----------------

I told my wife that one can put up a Biden sign in a Trump neighborhood and not suffer any consequences, but, if one puts up a Trump sign in a Biden neighborhood, one is risking serious vandalism and anyone who says different is lying.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (WEBkv)

330 "Northern Ireland's health minister has described three new songs by Sir Van Morrison that protest against coronavirus lockdowns as "dangerous".

I think I remember that back in the 60's, it was pretty celebrated if an artist could produce a song that was considered "Dangerous".

I would even say that the ability to do that would be the thing that distinguishes a True Artist from a mindless corporate stooge.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (Kpl3J)

331 It's not them or us, it's just us. There will be no split or diverse. They will lose. Because they must. We aren't going to make any kind of "deals" with them.

Posted by: Max Power at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (q177U)

332 Fresh coriander, and by that I mean half a bunch, is good in an omelette. Just happen to be noticing that at the moment.

Posted by: Gilded at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (BRkq2)

333 326
If Trump wins, we're STILL going full on cultural revolution, but *maybe* *some* of the fedgov will oppose it.
Posted by: Gman at September 18, 2020 11:55 AM (GfWuY)

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The left's shock troops can't operate outside of blue enclaves.

They'll burn Minneapolis again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (UWqZJ)

334 RE: what went wrong

I'll spot you all the divorce, & single mom, & lefty education indoctrination, & GOPe sellouts, & everything else bad...

and I still say that despite all of that (& anything else you want to add), we could've rolled right over it & been just fine, absent ONE thing: demographic change.

They switched the population out. RR used to be governor of California. There will never be another conservative GOP governor in CA... and there's an obvious reason for that. Obvious.

Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (Cssks)

335 What good is a well-turned phrase if you can't steal it?

The messenger was a disappointment, but that doesn't invalidate the power of the message.

Posted by: Cold Rage at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (OXSar)

That is a fair point. Frankly, when citing Mattis as a good SoD choice, his quote was often used.

It resonates.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:57 AM (Z4rgH)

336 327 Wasn't *he banned a few months ago?

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:42 AM (Z4rgH)

Yes, he was, but we are tolerating him for the time being until he steps over the line.

What's the over/under on that?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (xT2tT)

==========

I think he called bluebell a nerfherder.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:57 AM (UWqZJ)

337 This sounds like a paraphrase of a Mattis quote, and he didn't work out so well in the long run.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:50 AM (Z4rgH)

===========

What good is a well-turned phrase if you can't steal it?

The messenger was a disappointment, but that doesn't invalidate the power of the message.

Posted by: Cold Rage

It sounds like a paraphrase of The Patriot and most everyone here.

I pray I never have to fight, but if so, let war come in my time so my children and grandchildren can live in peace.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:57 AM (gJBE5)

338 "Get everything now."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:43 AM (UWqZJ"

Exactly. If Democrats win they are going scorched earth. They are going to mow down and set on fire anything they can get away with. Loading the bench, killing the filibuster, tax increases, social programs, rolling back all Executive actions, across the board rollbacks in every executive department, green energy, government run healthcare...everything.

If the idiots voting for Biden don't see this coming, it's willful and purposeful. No sane person will be able to say "they didn't see this coming" like the phony impeachment.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 18, 2020 11:57 AM (VpIIl)

339 I won't even consider a bumper sticker or a sign.
Seattle is not a very tolerant place.

call me a coward. I've been called worse.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (W2Pud)

That is called being prudent.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2020 11:57 AM (axyOa)

340 310 Kim Klacik is a libertarian. She said she is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. She is not on our side.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (P0ZO

Or maybe she is, and you're not.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

I'm a traditionalist, a Christian, and a nationalist. I have direct roots in America on both sides dating back to the late 1600's and early 1700's.
But keep proving the points of how "conservatives" always shove out members of The Right in favor of socially liberals, virtue signaling, and quota filling.

Did you even read the blog post and think about what was said?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:58 AM (P0ZO8)

341 Kim Klacik is a libertarian. She said she is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. She is not on our side.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (P0ZO

But she's as "conservative" as Baltimore would ever elect.

I remember years before 9/11 when he became America's Mayor, Rush use to complain that Giuliani wasn't really a a conservative because he was "socially liberal." It was true, but Giuliami was as conservative a mayor as NYC would EVER elect.

We have to take these things into consideration.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 18, 2020 11:58 AM (HrMC1)

342 -
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The left's shock troops can't operate outside of blue enclaves.

They'll burn Minneapolis again.

Posted by:TJM

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Stupid ashes won't light.

Posted by: Dejected Pantifag at September 18, 2020 11:58 AM (pMGkg)

343 Especially if they have any Pacific ports. Within a week, it'd be full of Chinese troopships, with those troops headed to our borders.

Surrendering land for peace is only buying time.

Unless we accelerate plans for Mars colonization (and building a starfleet to blockade the Earth and make sure the totalitarians never escape into the broader universe), it's a plan to lose.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 11:51 AM (pZ58d)

Quaint that you think those Chinese troopships would ever make port. Davy Jones' locker for them, and all aboard.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2020 11:59 AM (HYAPV)

344 We (the conservative voters) are still going to have to punish the GOP and prove to the GOP that either they pursue the conservative agenda they fund-raise on and campaign on or they won't win elections. I wouldn't do that this year or in 2022 if Trump wins 2020, but at some point we have to do it. They need to fear their base more than they love leftism/globalism.
Posted by: pantsomime at September 18, 2020 11:44 AM (gd3bR)

100% on board.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 18, 2020 11:47 AM (y7DUB)

Yup. The pricks are necessary, right now.

When they aren't, they need to be tossed out.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 11:59 AM (hku12)

345 I lived both sides of the divorce wars, so, my views might be slightly colored by personal experience.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 11:37 AM (WEBkv)

you were both an ex-husband and an ex-wife?

Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 11:59 AM (nUhF0)

346 Shouldn't you be off getting new conspiracies from QAnon Pepe?

Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:59 AM (dtx0j)

347 Yes, he was, but we are tolerating him for the time being until he steps over the line.

What's the over/under on that?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (xT2tT)

I'll take 'tomorrow'. Thanks for the response.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:59 AM (Z4rgH)

348 I posted some of this earlier today. But, I had some additional thoughts...

Has anybody noticed that the riots have nearly disappeared? 10's of thousands or federal and state police forces were unable to quell the riots that went on for months without any democrat leaders denouncing them. Then, the polling came in after Kenosha and the Democrats began to see it hurting them. Joe and Kamela each make one weak statement against rioting. And several weeks later Nancy finally gets around to denouncing them and "poof" the riots seem to go away. If they continue to be gone for a few more days, Trump and all republicans need to draw attention to this fact right up to the election. it is a clear connection showing the Democrats control the rioters.

They also cancelled the riots that they were planning to have for DC up to election day.

The messaging on this from republicans needs to be tight and draw the conclusions for the public.

1. If democrats can stop the rioting now they could have stopped it in May.
2. The riots have directly resulted in more than 30 deaths (many minorities) and approx. 2 billion in property damage (often the property of minorities).
3. Police across the country in Democrat run cities have heard the democrats praise the riotous "protests" and have seen the democrat leaders would side with the criminals who resist arrest and have, reasonably, become less proactive.
4. The reasonable response of the police has resulted in an estimated 710 additional deaths in major cities in June and July of this year alone (the vast majority of whom have been blacks, including many black children).
5. The Democrats encouraged/tolerated this violence against the minorities they claim to represent and care about because they calculated that the chaos, destruction and death would be held against the party that controlled the presidency and the senate.
6. They miscalculated because it became clear that Republican leadership took efforts to stop it, democrat leadership encouraged/tolerated it and the rioters were ideologically aligned with Democrats.
7. The democrats made no effort to stop the chaos, death and destruction befalling primarily minorities until polling began show it was not helping their election chances.
8. Therefore, the Democrats used violence for political gain and only stopped when it did not produce the political gain they expected.
9. Do you want to elect people who use political violence and sacrifice their constituents to gain political power? What lengths might they be willing to go to to keep that power should they ever get it? If they were willing to do that to their supporters - what would they do to their opponents?

Posted by: Brian at September 18, 2020 11:59 AM (eV752)

349 Sorry if I missed it above - looks like Michigan has decided to extend mail-in voting as well. No doubt all the other mail-in states will follow suit.

https://tinyurl.com/y5vmyp4g

Posted by: clutch cargo at September 18, 2020 12:00 PM (8B6Ng)

350 >>If the idiots voting for Biden don't see this coming, it's willful and purposeful. No sane person will be able to say "they didn't see this coming" like the phony impeachment.

Remember how triumphant Nancy was when they impeached Trump? She boasted that he was now "impeached forever!"

Yet not a single mention of it during their awful convention and not a word of it from Slow Joe on the campaign trail. Almost seems like they don't want to talk about it for some strange reason.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)

351 339 I won't even consider a bumper sticker or a sign.
Seattle is not a very tolerant place.

call me a coward. I've been called worse.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (W2Pud)
That is called being prudent.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2020 11:57 AM (axyOa)

I agree, of course. Anyone intelligent who was there would do the same. The question is, is it worth staying in a place where you have to live in fear of what your neighbors will do to you, every single day of your life? That's the life of a slave, not of a Free Man or Woman.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 12:00 PM (Kpl3J)

352 310 Kim Klacik is a libertarian. She said she is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. She is not on our side.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:22 AM (P0ZO

Or maybe she is, and you're not.
Posted by: BurtTC

Also, she's running for office in Baltimore's district. Pickens are slim there. Plus, have you seen her in a tight red dress? Yowza!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 18, 2020 12:00 PM (MVR7y)

353 OT: Terry Goodkind and Winston Groom died yesterday.

I'm not the biggest fan of Goodkind's fantasy but he was a major force in Fantasy for a while.

And Forrest Gump, of course, is pretty well known.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 18, 2020 12:01 PM (d1uFV)

354 350 >>If the idiots voting for Biden don't see this coming, it's willful and purposeful. No sane person will be able to say "they didn't see this coming" like the phony impeachment.

Remember how triumphant Nancy was when they impeached Trump? She boasted that he was now "impeached forever!"

Yet not a single mention of it during their awful convention and not a word of it from Slow Joe on the campaign trail. Almost seems like they don't want to talk about it for some strange reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)

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"We don't remember that either."
-30 Freshman Democrats from Trump districts

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 12:01 PM (UWqZJ)

355 you were both an ex-husband and an ex-wife?
Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 11:59 AM (nUhF0)
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Dad left our family younger woman and my ex wife was a cheating slut.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 12:01 PM (WEBkv)

356 I obviously disagree. If you think Obama winning just damaged us a little more than either of the other two would have we are on the opposite side of theoretical outcomes.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 18, 2020 11:49 AM (PxTjI)

Those other two would have been terrible Presidents and we'd have Gaylord or The Beast in the White House now.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 18, 2020 12:01 PM (y7DUB)

357 I think he called bluebell a nerfherder.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:57 AM (UWqZJ)

But not "scruffy" -- that's the killer word.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 12:01 PM (Z4rgH)

358 I'm even down to being hesitant to fly the US flag. Who knows what will set people off here. Though I admit flying it sometimes to piss people off here.

Posted by: InCali at September 18, 2020 12:01 PM (9AFWN)

359 emember how triumphant Nancy was when they impeached Trump? She boasted that he was now "impeached forever!"

Yet not a single mention of it during their awful convention and not a word of it from Slow Joe on the campaign trail. Almost seems like they don't want to talk about it for some strange reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)

They don't want to remind everyone of where they were focusing Trump's attention in January and February.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 18, 2020 12:01 PM (HrMC1)

360 A solution that satisfies moral dilemmas, when faced with an amoral enemy, cannot exist. Only a very morally comfortable defeat.

Posted by: Odiex Fromundus at September 18, 2020 12:02 PM (FF0dF)

361 "I won't even consider a bumper sticker or a sign.
Seattle is not a very tolerant place.

call me a coward. I've been called worse.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (W2Pud)

That is called being prudent.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2020 11:57 AM (axyOa)"

Exactly. I caught the people stealing my signs last time- or I should say my dog did... It really wasn't worth the energy or hassle. These people are bent on trying to destroy and intimidate. I really don't want to invite that because my response to such things is to ensure a response guarantees there will not be a repeat. That doesn't end well. Like the pair of short my dog had which I nailed to a tree like a trophy until they literally rotted off.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 18, 2020 12:02 PM (VpIIl)

362
Did you even read the blog post and think about what was said?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:58 AM (P0ZO

What if I didn't, are you going to try to make me?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 12:02 PM (hku12)

363 please consider supporting Kathy Barnette, another young black Trump supporter running in PA-4 (Montgomery County)

Are we sure of the bona fides here? Far to many of these young ethnic Rs either flame out or are merely duplicitous libs seeking an easier path to victory than slogging through a Dem primary.
Mia Love I'm lookin at YOU

Posted by: common sense at September 18, 2020 12:02 PM (UCCfH)

364 123 The NYU Student Newspaper defends a student-led push for a themed engagement community for Black students only.
The editorial claims that Black-students need a supportive place unlike White people.

Jesus, what fuckin retards with no grip of history
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2020 11:17 AM (tsZQ+)

While it's easy to mock this - and I do - there's a deeper truth buried in here.

Brown v. Board of Ed, in many ways, was the a terrible decision handed down to the black community. In one fell swoop, it neutered the HBCUs and started the dismantling of the best institutions that were set up as an alternative to Jim Crow.

In many ways, of course, it needed to happen. The second order impact of the decision, however, ended up hurting future generations a lot more, and affirmative action did further harm still.

Not sure how you're going to put Humpty Dumpty back together again after almost 70 years, but I'm pretty sure that NYU's approach isn't it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 18, 2020 12:02 PM (4tiP2)

365 The key to the postmark requirement is that all that Michigan Dems need is one loyal (to them) employee inside the USPS to backdate as many ballots as they want to push through him. I'd say Michigan is lost.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2020 12:02 PM (Kpl3J)

366 334 RE: what went wrong

I'll spot you all the divorce, & single mom, & lefty education indoctrination, & GOPe sellouts, & everything else bad...

and I still say that despite all of that (& anything else you want to add), we could've rolled right over it & been just fine, absent ONE thing: demographic change.

They switched the population out. RR used to be governor of California. There will never be another conservative GOP governor in CA... and there's an obvious reason for that. Obvious.
Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (Cssks)

Stats largely bear out that families which have been here for more generations and speak English vote more Republican. You can do an analysis of past waves of immigration and see that they pretty much all skew heavily Democrat. This is impermanent for the ethnic group as by and large they all ultimately integrate(Hispanics start identifying as white, Italians and Irish already do). Iirc the Democrats call this attrition.

There are a few notable exceptions to this when they maintain strong non-American group identities. But most immigrants become generically American(and of their particular state) given enough time(a few generations).

Posted by: Someguy at September 18, 2020 12:02 PM (Zm+LZ)

367 you were both an ex-husband and an ex-wife?
Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 11:59 AM (nUhF0)
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one more time: Dad left our family for a younger woman and my ex wife was a cheating slut.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 12:02 PM (WEBkv)

368 >>They don't want to remind everyone of where they were focusing Trump's attention in January and February.

Senator Ron Johnson might have a thing or two to say about that.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)

369 Yeah, Dildo. Man who of all the names one could choose chooses to take the name of a beloved innocent children's cartoon character and sexualize, you're asking what doctors have to do with it? i 'splained it. Granted in my AFK hen peck typing I could have added some context, but somehow "Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 11:20 AM" got my drift. Why did you feel the need to press me on this? Got some guilt hidden deep down inside that we don't know about? That flippen handle has always bugged me. Yet another thing in the whole gaslight game. From some idiot libertine leftist, some rando commenter, whatevs. But a Mr. Right? Get off your flippin' high horse.

Posted by: WTP at September 18, 2020 12:03 PM (95axh)

370 336 327 Wasn't *he banned a few months ago?

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2020 11:42 AM (Z4rgH)

Yes, he was, but we are tolerating him for the time being until he steps over the line.

What's the over/under on that?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2020 11:56 AM (xT2tT)

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I think he called bluebell a nerfherder.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 18, 2020 11:57 AM (UWqZJ)

But did he call her scruffy-looking?

Posted by: josephistan at September 18, 2020 12:03 PM (Izzlo)

371 Posted by: WTP at September 18, 2020 12:03 PM (95axh)

You and Pepe need to get a room.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 18, 2020 12:04 PM (PxTjI)

372 Dad left our family younger woman and my ex wife was a cheating slut.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

that's enough to put anyone off marriage for sure
***hugs***

Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 12:04 PM (nUhF0)

373 I do know, from looking at Twitter, that the worst reaction you can provoke is to suggest that women would be happier minding their home and raising kids. People just go nuts over that. Let's remember how feminists tried to pressure all women into having careers and doing their own thing. I think a little pushback in the other direction is good. Kids really need some stability in their lives.

Posted by: notsothoreau at September 18, 2020 12:04 PM (JKNZq)

374 I pray I never have to fight, but if so, let war come in my time so my children and grandchildren can live in peace.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:57 AM (gJBE5)

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As an aside, just finished Conflict of Visions. I wish I'd read it years ago, Sowell does an amazing job laying out how the left 's Unconstrained vision leads to ends-justifies-the-means, and how the right's Constrained vision says instead "keep the process fair" (same rules for everyone) and the ends will be the ones we need instead of the ones we want.

The Unconstrained vision doesn't have a self-correction mechanism built into their vision of the world because that would mean they have limits placed on them. The right sees the world as auto-correcting due to our own limitations, i.e. human fallibility, whether we want it to or not. Including violently apocalyptic correction if necessary.

Cannot recommend the book highly enough.

Posted by: Cold Rage at September 18, 2020 12:05 PM (OXSar)

375 These new songs are G-L-O-R-ious!
Posted by: zombie at September 18, 2020 11:51 AM (HEEq1)

Where do you find them?

Posted by: Gilded at September 18, 2020 12:05 PM (BRkq2)

376 346 Shouldn't you be off getting new conspiracies from QAnon Pepe?
Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 11:59 AM (dtx0j)

Is this suppose to be an insult or a sick burn? Do you realize how ignorant and stupid you sound? Have you not been paying attention at all the last 4 years to the revealing that basically everything has been a lie, the actual conspiracies taking place, and the GOP and mainstream Conservatives thought leaders and influencers working for Marxists the entire time?

Do you not have eyes to see and ears to hear?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 12:05 PM (P0ZO8)

377 Wow someone doesn't know the origin of CharlieBrown'sDildo and chooses to make an attack off of it.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 18, 2020 12:05 PM (dtx0j)

378 that's enough to put anyone off marriage for sure
***hugs***
Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 12:04 PM (nUhF0)
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Ah, thanks.

I married extremely well the second time around.

Well, truth be told, God pretty much walked the lovely Mrs. Blake down the aisle for me.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 12:06 PM (WEBkv)

379

I hope each and every one of us is praying we can vote our way out of this.
There is only one way that happens though.

Revival.

That will take prayer. That will take The Holy Spirit moving and dropping the scales of unbelief from peoples eyes.

If not, the ugly that will be seen in this country will have only been seen by those who have seen war, up close and personal.

I for one never want to see that.
And for my brothers in arms who have, my thanks are not enough.
If it comes, I pray I prove worthy of you.

Posted by: TeeJ at September 18, 2020 12:06 PM (PXKj8)

380
call me a coward. I've been called worse.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 18, 2020 11:53 AM (W2Pud)

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When, to evade Destruction's hand,
To hide they all proceeded,
No soldier in that gallant band
Hid half as well as he did.
He lay concealed throughout the war,
And so preserved his gore, O!
That unaffected, undetected, well-connected warrior,
The Duke of Plaza-Toro!

In every doughty deed, ha, ha!
He always took the lead, ha, ha!
That unaffected, undetected, well-connected warrior,
The Duke of Plaza-Toro!

- Gilbert and Sullivan, The Gondoliers

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2020 12:06 PM (mht8P)

381 But did he call her scruffy-looking?
Posted by: josephistan at September 18, 2020 12:03 PM

That would be a vile slander. Bluebell is most definitely not scruffy looking.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 18, 2020 12:06 PM (ejd/p)

382 What is this, Cranky Friday?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)

383 Surrendering land for peace is only buying time.

Unless we accelerate plans for Mars colonization (and building a starfleet to blockade the Earth and make sure the totalitarians never escape into the broader universe), it's a plan to lose.
Posted by: Cato

I saw we accelerate plans for Pluto colonization and how we are going to send them there.

This is MY birthright. Not theirs.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2020 11:54 AM (gJBE5)

There's a Uranus joke in there somewhere...

Something...something...Uranus?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2020 12:07 PM (axyOa)

384 I hear the View was "extra" special today with Klacik calling out Joy for wearing black face - much hilarity ensued....

Posted by: Boswell at September 18, 2020 12:07 PM (w2LAm)

385 What is this, Cranky Friday?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)
++++++++++++
This calls for alliteration.

#FuriousFriday

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2020 12:07 PM (hYcqw)

386 What is this, Cranky Friday?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2020 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)
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I think Cranky is every day ending in "Y."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 18, 2020 12:07 PM (WEBkv)

387 The only solution is either a two-state solution or else the Left will impose a Final Solution on us.

Us or them.

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It is the only way. It's folly to believe there won't come a time when the horror of a Democrat president is in office with a Democrat majority congress. Because they're telling us right now what they plan to do. No more filibuster, gov't healthcare for all (from which participation is not voluntary), loss of the majority of our 2A rights, loss of free speech (which is plainly happening right now), no borders, America-crushing green deals, nefarious "deals" with a country that calls us Satan, the cementing of a #1 superpower called China...

A split is the only way. I welcome it at this point, because these people are crazy and it's not going to revert back to anything resembling their party platform from days gone by.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 18, 2020 12:07 PM (O+I8R)

388 Well, truth be told, God pretty much walked the lovely Mrs. Blake down the aisle for me.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

sweet!!!!

Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 18, 2020 12:07 PM (nUhF0)

389 There are no shy Biden voters. The Biden-Harris sign here got paint-balled and every gray-headed, helmet-haircut old lady, who moved here from some metropolitan, liberal Mecca, made sure to virtue-signal on FB how the heathens had abused their right to vote and should be given a lifetime sentence for being "Trumptards." Nothing shy about these Biden advocates.

Posted by: EveR at September 18, 2020 12:08 PM (R0z7P)

390 I didn't know Van Morrison had been knighted. I didn't even know Van Morrison was alive.

Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 12:08 PM (Cssks)

391 What is this, Cranky Friday?

*******

Heh!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 18, 2020 12:08 PM (Fc5rx)

392 Nood.

The shitty Trump Economy.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 18, 2020 12:09 PM (Zz0t1)

393 There are shy Biden voters the same way people don't want to speak up about white racism and social justice for fear of being fired or canceled.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 18, 2020 12:09 PM (o/6Tv)

394 These idiots want to bring criminal law into this.

Of course, their lack of fidelity to anything prevents them from seeing that you can't actually convict anyone of criminal activity unless you *prove* something.

The Dems arguments that the President broke a law were so vapid in the Impeachment, that it does not even seem that they know what *proof* is. It's not jumping up and down and insisting that everybody who doesn't buy your narrative is a traitor.

However, unless we turn this country around, I am waiting for the day that we see a conviction not because anything is *proven* about him, but just because "he deserves it".

They tried to turn the whole benefit of the doubt thing 180-degrees on George Zimmerman. And whatever the left tries, just increases in frequency.

I imagine that unless Trump is followed by a Republican successor, Trump will be the first president indicted for "crimes" in his executive management. I don't think the Dems will *prove* anything, the worst part is that I am not confident that matters.

When I was not a Chrisian my standard for my own behavior, and what I tolerated from other people, slid steadily.

Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2020 12:09 PM (Eicbe)

395 Dad left our family younger woman and my ex wife was a cheating slut.

(pedal steel guitar in background)

Posted by: "honey, what you did to that man was sick" (said to my ex by her BFF gal pal), and poof I was banned at September 18, 2020 12:10 PM (Esm9C)

396 I didn't know Van Morrison had been knighted. I didn't even know Van Morrison was alive.
Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 12:08 PM (Cssks)

He's not only alive, his voice is still intact.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 18, 2020 12:10 PM (HrMC1)

397 "295 I'm in Illinois and I've seen about 3 Trump signs. I've got one in my garage but do not trust my neighbors to put it out. "

Yes, Illinoisan here too, on a 50-50 white/black block. Gotta stay gray. No choice.

Our school district just forced one of our schools to take down an "All Lives Matter" bulletin board the kids put up: "The message conveyed in the bulletin board does not represent the beliefs of Eisenhower Middle School or RPS 205."

Posted by: gp at September 18, 2020 12:10 PM (qpX6U)

398 There's a Uranus joke in there somewhere...

Something...something...Uranus?
Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2020 12:07 PM (axyOa)

Do you really want the GloboHomos to visit Uranus?

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 12:11 PM (pZ58d)

399 I'm even down to being hesitant to fly the US flag. Who knows what will set people off here. Though I admit flying it sometimes to piss people off here.

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I mentioned a couple months back the fact that the Democrat Left and their base have gone so far down the rabbit hole, that to them, displaying or supporting our American flag is now considered blasphemy. With all the hatred, venom and danger that goes along with it. Proud of your American flag? Nazi! Display your patriotism? Racist!

That's where we are. At least, that's what I see and hear coming from their spittle-flecked foaming mouths.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 18, 2020 12:12 PM (O+I8R)

400 Our school district just forced one of our schools to take down an "All Lives Matter" bulletin board the kids put up: "The message conveyed in the bulletin board does not represent the beliefs of Eisenhower Middle School or RPS 205."
Posted by: gp at September 18, 2020 12:10 PM (qpX6U)

Replace with a picture of Freddie Mercury and a caption "Nothing Really Matters".

Keep pissing in their cornflakes!

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 12:13 PM (pZ58d)

401 375 These new songs are G-L-O-R-ious!
Posted by: zombie at September 18, 2020 11:51 AM (HEEq1)

Where do you find them?
Posted by: Gilded at September 18, 2020 12:05 PM (BRkq2)

Never mind, I see in the article they are not out yet. Still time to change them. *slouches* *frowns*

Posted by: Gilded at September 18, 2020 12:13 PM (BRkq2)

402 Or maybe she is, and you're not.
Posted by: BurtTC

Also, she's running for office in Baltimore's district. Pickens are slim there. Plus, have you seen her in a tight red dress? Yowza!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 18, 2020 12:00 PM (MVR7y)

I think the Republican Party is going to have to deal with the problem of lots of newcomers inside the tent.

And at that point they're going to have to decide: Do the newcomers need to adhere to some certain basic principles, and what are they?

What might be nice would be a re-introduction of political debate, without everyone having to retreat to their respective orthodoxies, and without needing to burn heretics for reasonable disagreements.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 12:16 PM (hku12)

403 You and Pepe need to get a room."

Yeah, reading further I don't know about Pepe but even a stopped watch is right twice a day. My main point being that, in regard to the Dildo's original post himself, re
"we deserve at least some of the credit for the mess we're in. Quite a bit of the credit, actually. The change has been slow and insidious but right there in the open for all to see,"

It's the old take responsibiility without taking responsibility then piling on (yet AGAIN) someone who pointed (or tried as best he could to point) out what a F'n mess we were setting ourselves up for with this PC BS, etc. But hey, go ahead and pile on me some more. After 20-30 years I'm f'n used to it. But damn near everything that has panned out over the last six months was avoidable if a whole lot (not all obviously) of some of the very same people b*ing about "how we got here" would have had just a little backbone. Maybe not even for themselves but offered just an ounce of encouragement for those of us who DID speak up. Most y'all are getting what you deserve. What sucks is that you are taking the rest of us down with you.

Posted by: WTP at September 18, 2020 12:16 PM (95axh)

404 Speak not in a deprecating manner about bluebell, and, happenstance be such that you do, prepare for your timbers to be shivvered.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 18, 2020 12:16 PM (DMUuz)

405 Thank God for Trump.

Amen. And seconded.

I agree with Jack Straw. The pendulum is finally swinging back in our direction.

The biggest thing I see on the political/cultural front is that the idea that "It can't happen here" is just about dead. It is happening here: riots, political parties cheating in order to win by any means necessary, degrading the culture by promoting perversity and celebrating mental illness through mutilation and all the other things formerly thought to be impossible because America was stronger than that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Joe Biden killed my career at September 18, 2020 12:17 PM (HaL55)

406 And if they take down the Freddie picture, replace it with "Stages of Matter. Solid. Liquid. Gas. Plasma."

Never give up! There's always more ways to annoy a totalitarian.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 12:17 PM (pZ58d)

407 What might be nice would be a re-introduction of political debate, without everyone having to retreat to their respective orthodoxies, and without needing to burn heretics for reasonable disagreements.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 12:16 PM

A witch! 'E's a witch!!

Posted by: The Woke Mob at September 18, 2020 12:18 PM (DMUuz)

408 People lash out and get angry when their assumptions and beliefs are questioned, critiqued, and challenged. The past 4 years is proof of that, and conservatives including the Christian and white working and professional classes are still in the middle of the process.
The 5 stages of grief are real.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 12:18 PM (P0ZO8)

409 398 There's a Uranus joke in there somewhere...

Something...something...Uranus?
Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2020 12:07 PM (axyOa)

Do you really want the GloboHomos to visit Uranus?
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 18, 2020 12:11 PM (pZ58d)

Forget about them.

Otters. In. Space!

Posted by: The Otters at September 18, 2020 12:20 PM (4tiP2)

410 Dang it. Missed another WeaselRant.

Posted by: bluebell at September 18, 2020 12:20 PM (/669Q)

411 There are a few problems with the sunny, Panglossian view that "history shows immigrants assimilate after a few generations, so... everything will be just FINE!"

1) The fastest growing immigrant population in the U.S. are Muslims, who now outnumber Jewish Americans, btw. Where exactly have Muslim immigrants EVER "assimilated," please? France? Belgium? Israel? Scandinavia? The U.S.?

2) What if the new immigrants, as in California, simply open U.S. borders completely, BEFORE enough generations have passed for this assimilation of which you speak, to occur?

I guess you can paint a smiley face on "demographic change"... if it helps you ward off night sweats.

Posted by: mnw at September 18, 2020 12:20 PM (Cssks)

412 "Chop that wood,
carry water,
what's the sound of one hand clapping,
enlightenment, don't know what it is...."

"All around baby. you can see
You're making your own reality. everyday because
Enlightenment, don't know what it is"

Van can be pretty funny sometimes. That was an awesome send up.

Posted by: Gilded at September 18, 2020 12:20 PM (BRkq2)

413 Starfleet Command prefers no Klingons around Uranus.

Posted by: Capt. James T. Kirk at September 18, 2020 12:21 PM (DMUuz)

414 I'm not saying it's a great a parody of Buddhism as "The Tale of Genji" but for our sad azz times...

Posted by: Gilded at September 18, 2020 12:22 PM (BRkq2)

415 What might be nice would be a re-introduction of political debate, without everyone having to retreat to their respective orthodoxies, and without needing to burn heretics for reasonable disagreements.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 12:16 PM (hku12)

If you ceed the culture and social war by being "big tent", then how do you expect to win the political wars and keep our country? Serious question btw

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 18, 2020 12:24 PM (P0ZO8)

416 I believe there's no way that we can stop the Democrats from getting back into power at some point.

The odds just are against that.

Thus we need no only to prepare to fight and win the next elections but to prepare the battleground and equip the army that will be needed when the Democrats do get power again.

Our first priority must be to stop them from removing our rights so that we will be able to fight.
Gun Control, Alien voters, vote fraud, other schemes whereby the winner is chosen by other means than winner take all in state/local votes. Preventing our enemies from salting out state offices with communists such as what Soros did with the AG's and the State Department folks who do the counting of the votes.

There's a lot to do and to prevent and during it all we must somehow flush the media down the drain and start being able to sue the social media when they censor people.

To be honest the last is the most important. If the media was even half way less partisan and actually reported the facts we would not be in such dire straits.

Frankly I'm a man who believes in direct action and I think that direct action is what is needed with the media.

They must learn that they will pay a large price when they lie and distort or simply not report the important stories of the day.

It's been a week now for Trump and Israel and few outlets have reported what is happening.

Posted by: jakee308 at September 18, 2020 12:30 PM (jG5Dt)

417 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDE!

Posted by: Bonecrusher at September 18, 2020 12:32 PM (JNTt1)

418 "Will we recognize ourselves in 25 years?"

Already, I don't recognize ourselves.

Posted by: RalphF at September 18, 2020 12:36 PM (5FiEy)

419 The stated goal of communism is the destruction of Capitalism and installing a proletarian dictatorship.

The Kung Flu is the destruction part, the proletarian dictatorship is unfolding as we watch.

Posted by: Uncle Rick at September 18, 2020 12:53 PM (48/MM)

420 The Progressive Protocols have been accomplished.

Posted by: Eve at September 18, 2020 02:19 PM (L5yo0)

421 Whoever said that a cheating but very effective ploy by the governors of Democrat shithole states might sabotage the election by refusing to certify their state results if they went for Trump--on the bullshit excuse that they believed there was fraud so... was onto something. Consider this:. . .Supose the EV's are 260 D to 250 R, with 28 total from 3 states not counted because their corrupt governors wailed that they couldn't certify the results (despite a convincing Trump win in votes). At that point the Supreme Court would declare that the Dems had won, because they had a majority of the EV's actually certified... .. ..This is actually close to the margin in 2016, where a *total* of something like 140,000 votes would have tipped Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin to the Dems. All those states are Democrat-ruled. My guess is that at least one among the army of lawyers already on payroll for the Dems has already hit on this strategy... .. .. Now here's the problem: There is NO mechanism to force a state to certify its results if the state simply *claims* vote fraud. Note they don't have to prove it, just *claim* it. And there's not enough time between the election and inauguration to investigate thoroughly anyway... .. .. I think this is a VERY real possibility. And if the Dems decide to do this I'm damned if I know how to prevent it. And think it's been amply demonstrated that they'll do absolutely anything to win the presidency.

Posted by: sf44 at September 18, 2020 03:30 PM (KyuhD)

422 Even though I believe Trump will win I am not hopeful that he will prevail. Perhaps filling RGB's seat will be the defining moment when the election is protected from the left's fraudulent recounting and deep state coup.

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at September 19, 2020 02:18 PM (TdCQk)

423 What might be nice would be a re-introduction of political debate, without everyone having to retreat to their respective orthodoxies, and without needing to burn heretics for reasonable disagreements.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2020 12:16 PM

What part of fighting for our way of life do you not understand? We no longer have the luxury of intellectual debate. The other side is willing to destroy cities and kill to prevail, and election fraud is nothing to them, they consider it a fair outcome. Debate that.

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at September 19, 2020 02:29 PM (TdCQk)

424 You don't debate Marxists, anymore than you would debate a pack of hyenas. Follow closely now:

They

Don't

Care

They are control freaks, you cannot reason with the Ctrl-Left. They will never leave you alone, they will never stop.

The only lesson Marxists understand is the plunge from a helicopter.

Posted by: Fenrisulven at September 20, 2020 03:00 AM (TNHVJ)

425 And the blogger is correct - conservatives just want to be left alone to pursue family and career. Like the Ents of Tolkien, it takes too much to wake them to action.

We have enabled the Marxist Left, because we lack the will to act.

Posted by: Fenrisulven at September 20, 2020 03:01 AM (TNHVJ)

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