Dismantling the Suburbs? [KT]

Last night, I heard Mark Levin on the radio talking about the federal regulation of how suburbs are created and managed. This issue has been followed closely by Stanley Kurtz. From this week:

The suburbs hold the swing vote in this election. . .
Toward the end of his administration, President Obama promulgated a sweeping new rule called Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing (AFFH). President Trump suspended enforcement of AFFH and is now in the process of entirely ending the rule. Biden, in contrast, has promised to vigorously enforce AFFH. So, what does the rule do?
AFFH is designed to put an end to single family zoning, while also pressing suburbs to build high-density low-income housing that would be occupied by residents of nearby cities. AFFH will also press suburbs into "transit oriented development," construction of dense apartments and business districts around transportation hubs, with limited parking. . .

There is more. The details are frightening. It is really quite the insidious federal takeover of local government. Some of these rules also apply to more urbanized neighborhoods. They could affect you on a personal level.

The Virus complicates this issue for the Democrats this election season. Makes mass transit and crowded conditions less attractive. But they still put these goals in writing, if not on TV.

Although none of this has been much debated by the public, Democratic lawmakers and allied urban policy experts and activists have long cherished the goals of AFFH. A whole battery of additional laws and regulations to achieve them are likely if the Democrats take power. . .

OF COURSE there has not been much public debate.

Kurtz wrote a book on this subject in 2012. Spreading the Wealth: How Obama is Robbing the Suburbs to Pay for the Cities. Maybe people should have paid more attention. What if Hillary had won?

Some reviewers called Kurtz "evil" and "racist", of course. Here is another review:

Spreading the Wealth is a revealing look at the disturbing trend of "Regionalism" of political power which threatens to destroy the very concept of suburbs, free choice and independence from bureaucratic tyranny. Stanley Kurtz, dives deep into intellectual and political back ground of Obama's advisors, political allies and actions to create a more perfect Metropolitan government ruled by bureaucrats and intellectual elites. In this socialist urban utopia, cities will lose their individual ability to zone, tax and manage their own affairs. Such "Smart Growth" central planning, it is said, to be needed for "economic, environmental, equity" for a prosperous future. Such socialist fantasies always overlook the roll of individual liberty and constitutional rights. It has failed in Western Europe and it will most definitely fail here.
If you have never heard of "Smart Growth", you need to learn quickly. Get this book and start educating yourself.
If you live in the suburbs, you may soon be stripped of your individual liberty for the "collective (regional) good".

I don't blame you if you think this warning sounds alarmist and conspiratorial. I didn't believe it myself until I went to a local presentation by central planners. These guys are serious and want to take down suburbia to fulfill their urban utopian fantasy,.
This is Paul Revere stuff. Time to wake up suburban America.

There is also an outfit trying to make a "conservative case" for ending zoning for single family homes. Partly because your options for changing your living space are limited. And partly because suburbs depend on federal subsidies.

My head is starting to hurt with all this "federal" talk.

What do you think? Is there a way to have some local flexibility without giving the feds an "in" for more control? How much local flexibility in zoning regulations do people want? What about state requirements? They are a thing in California. How about where you live?

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1 It's communism pure and simple. It's the end of the middle class, The end of capitalism, The END

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2020 11:20 AM (85Gof)

2 nd

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2020 11:21 AM (3H9h1)

3 Nooded

Posted by: Swinging for the Downs at July 25, 2020 11:23 AM (O84i1)

4 I see this starting in our town

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:24 AM (TOyHQ)

5 It *is* a lot easier to control a population if they are gathered together via legislation, though.

Posted by: socalcon at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (Roy2Z)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (arJlL)

7
The turkeys will still vote for Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (mht8P)

8 One problem the socialists never seem to figure out is urban dwellers have zero interest in living in, let alone integrating into the 'burbs.

It is a plan to relocate those urban rats that are otherwise uncontrollable while funneling money to the Democrats.

It's true, it is an attempt to cancel the middle class.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (3H9h1)

9 You know, I've always hated the suburbs.

This shit where if I open my window and stick my head only to bang it on the wall of the house next door does not strike me as the ideal living environment.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (+dsLj)

10 Insidious is a good term when talking about Dems.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (cHmL0)

11 Hiya KT !

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (arJlL)

12 Yeah but that's not going to happen where I live. Or something.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 25, 2020 11:26 AM (4thlk)

13 5 cont.
More economic militarily, too.

Posted by: socalcon at July 25, 2020 11:26 AM (Roy2Z)

14 Hiya, JT
Hiya, everybody

Posted by: KT at July 25, 2020 11:26 AM (BVQ+1)

15 So Goldberg is out with another imbecilic "all sides" take on the current mayhem the Marxists are engaging in...it goes like this:

"hey, Americans! We're all rebels, all of us! Even these Marxist destroyers are steeped in that wonderful tradition of American rebel-ness! So, no one is wrong to rebel!"

Its an illogical mess. In Goldberg's unthinking way, he unintentionally saying that even the Confederacy must have been just as Pax Americana as the Revolution...can he finally be culture cancelled now?

Posted by: Boswell at July 25, 2020 11:27 AM (32YRo)

16 Wonder where the "dismantle the mansions on Cape Cod" movement is?

Posted by: KT at July 25, 2020 11:27 AM (BVQ+1)

17 I'm reminded of the scene in Dr. Zhivago when he comes home to find his house has been "appropriated" by the communists..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2020 11:27 AM (CjFDo)

18 No consequences for quality of life at all when a country increases its population from 200 million to 350 million in a generation by mass immigration.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 25, 2020 11:28 AM (lcQJG)

19 "This shit where if I open my window and stick my head only to bang it on
the wall of the house next door does not strike me as the ideal living
environment."

That's why we have a second home on the lake. Where the neighbors house is even closer.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 25, 2020 11:28 AM (4thlk)

20 Don't know why this didn't come up 10 minutes ago.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 11:29 AM (6f16T)

21 O/T But my wife said she's seeing stories about people (she thinks it started in Utah) receiving unsolicited seed packets from Chynah. Creepy as hell if true.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 25, 2020 11:30 AM (7Fj9P)

22 9 You know, I've always hated the suburbs.

This shit where if I open my window and stick my head only to bang it on the wall of the house next door does not strike me as the ideal living environment.
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Yeah, but thought about your carbon footprint driving the rural backroads to get to a Walmart? You want to kill gramma and grampa, don't you!

Posted by: socalcon at July 25, 2020 11:30 AM (Roy2Z)

23 I'm reminded of the scene in Dr. Zhivago when he comes home to find his house has been "appropriated" by the communists..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2020 11:27 AM (CjFDo)

Well Zhivago was White so?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2020 11:30 AM (85Gof)

24 What do you think? Is there a way to have some local flexibility without giving the feds an "in" for more control?

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Easy. Same solution as everything else. Eliminate and reconstitute the federal government by force of arms. Compel its former employees to denounce it, and themselves, in public, on pain of life imprisonment or firing squad.

Rinse and repeat if things ever get this bad again.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 25, 2020 11:31 AM (g5Xlv)

25 Well Zhivago was White so?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2020 11:30 AM (85Gof)

White Russian? That drink is so 80's...

Posted by: Boswell at July 25, 2020 11:31 AM (32YRo)

26 That's why we have a second home on the lake. Where the neighbors house is even closer.

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LOL

I mentioned a boss of mine who lives in an HOA gated community. He literally bought up the land next to him and bought a house located in a cul de sac just to ensure there was enough space between him and the neighbors. For extra measure he sits on the HOA board as well to ensure they don't go full retard nazi. It'a a shame this is the amount of time, money and effort you have to put in to comfortably live in the suburb with enough privacy.

There are some wooded areas nearby that represent the best of both worlds though, if you have wooded acreage even if homes are close by you don't see them, plus all supermarkets are still 5 minutes away. Unfortunately homes in this neighborhood are insanely expensive and out of my league.

Panda sad now.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:31 AM (+dsLj)

27 Barky's minions often took immigrants by the thousands and stuck them in places to overwhelm the suburbs.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 11:32 AM (6f16T)

28 Democrats are evil and they never, ever stop. Ever.

I'm having evil thoughts about them.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2020 11:33 AM (7k/uO)

29 21 O/T But my wife said she's seeing stories about people (she thinks it started in Utah) receiving unsolicited seed packets from Chynah. Creepy as hell if true.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 25, 2020 11:30 AM (7Fj9P)

I saw a news article about cops warning ppl not to plant these
whatever they are

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:34 AM (TOyHQ)

30 O/T But my wife said she's seeing stories about people (she thinks it started in Utah) receiving unsolicited seed packets from Chynah. Creepy as hell if true.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

Seed pods? Uh oh. I saw that movie. Does explain Antifa though.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 25, 2020 11:34 AM (+y/Ru)

31 White Russian? That drink is so 80's...
Posted by: Boswell at July 25, 2020 11:31 AM (32YRo)
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Another Caucasian, Gary.

Posted by: The Dude at July 25, 2020 11:34 AM (UAMe5)

32 Lol, I think I will plant these random seeds I got in the mail.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 11:35 AM (fU1ci)

33 I guess I'm not really sure what people mean by suburbs. Where I grew up, suburbs is where everyone lived, except the urban mooks who either couldn't leave or wouldn't leave. St. Louis city has been dying for decades, and the suburbs just get richer and richer.

Now there's a movement called "Better Together." They want the city and county to merge. Become one, when the reason they aren't is because more than a century ago the rich urban dwellers didn't want the burden of their yokel suburban neighbors.

Now it's reversed.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2020 11:36 AM (hku12)

34 here's one

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyzdkhoj

Virginia residents warned not to plant mysterious seeds apparently sent from China

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:36 AM (TOyHQ)

35 17 I'm reminded of the scene in Dr. Zhivago when he comes home to find his house has been "appropriated" by the communists..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2020 11:27 AM (CjFDo)

If the movie is as good as that scene it should be required viewing.

Posted by: HiHo at July 25, 2020 11:36 AM (gsaS2)

36 I saw a news article about cops warning ppl not to plant these
whatever they are
Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:34 AM (TOyHQ)

Huh.

https://tinyurl.com/y6hmkgt2

https://tinyurl.com/yygbhhjv

Oh well, probably nothing.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 25, 2020 11:36 AM (t+qrx)

37 That's what they did to The Woodlands outside of Houston. Percentage Low income housing was required as the community expanded.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 25, 2020 11:36 AM (2DOZq)

38 White Russian? That drink is so 80's...
Posted by: Boswell

Well that's just, like... your opinion...
Man.

Posted by: The Dude at July 25, 2020 11:37 AM (SfYbS)

39 Louisville incorporated all of Jefferson County

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 11:37 AM (fU1ci)

40 Libs have always hated the suburbs and loved urban areas. Some of it's self hatred since they're all mentally ill.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 11:38 AM (y7DUB)

41 Methinks martha's vinyard will not get a cabrini green.

Posted by: getting the banned back together at July 25, 2020 11:38 AM (LzdNh)

42 They push this too much and they're going to get a bunch of Karens that come together to form a single giant NIMBY Karen.

Posted by: Bert G at July 25, 2020 11:38 AM (OMsf+)

43 Forty-two years ago, when I enrolled in graduate school at Purdue, I was a bit embarrassed to tell others that I had been born and raised in Wyoming.

Now, after witnessing the events of the past 40+ years, I am utterly convinced that my great-grandfather was both a prophet and a certified genius when he pulled up stakes and moved his family to Wyoming in 1903. The absolute best thing about Wyoming is that there is nothing there (to this day) that qualifies as a "city".

Posted by: CyberCipher at July 25, 2020 11:39 AM (++/pX)

44 "Residential Mixed Use". It's the Big Idea in property development today. Retail/restaurant* on street level, condos/apartments above. These are usually 4-5 stories, and are popping up like mushrooms everywhere. Just built one in my community. They were trying to develop a high density apartment community, but believe it or not, the locals pushed back and won. For now anyway.
*These shops and restaurants have an insanely high failure rate.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 25, 2020 11:39 AM (7Fj9P)

45 St. Louis city has been dying for decades, and the suburbs just get richer and richer.

************

Here's the funny thing that explains the phenomenon specifically in Philadelphia.

Because of Phillie's evidently insane taxes, a mass exodus of people moved out into the suburbs and out of its tax jurisdiction. As a result Philly lost an insane amount of tax revenue.

So what did they do, lower taxes to entice people back?

Nah, they changed the law to expand their tax jurisdiction to the suburbs so they could continue taxing the very same people who left to get away from the high taxes in the first place.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:39 AM (+dsLj)

46 Ironic the Lefties fought so hard against confirming Roberts, but he's their go to guy in implementing Marxism.

Posted by: socalcon at July 25, 2020 11:40 AM (Roy2Z)

47 unsolicited seeds from.Chynah being mailed to Washington, Utah, Virginia, and the UK

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:40 AM (TOyHQ)

48 Our city and county merged and I was opposed because I didn't want the city's problems. It's worse than I predicted.

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2020 11:41 AM (Tnijr)

49 Barky's minions often took immigrants by the thousands and stuck them in places to overwhelm the suburbs.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 11:32 AM (6f16T)

Putting voters where the Dims needed them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 25, 2020 11:41 AM (t+tI7)

50 Libs have always hated the suburbs and loved urban areas. Some of it's self hatred since they're all mentally ill.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 11:38 AM (y7DUB)

They grew up in wealthy comfortable suburbs, and one of their primary motivations - top three, at least - is "shut up dad, I hate you". Suburbs are a place they associate with ineffectual, disapproving parental figures. QED.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 25, 2020 11:41 AM (t+qrx)

51 You enjoying a little time at home today?

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Yeah, for a couple of months now.

Posted by: SMH at July 25, 2020 11:41 AM (RU4sa)

52 Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no *religion* too

Posted by: socalcon at July 25, 2020 11:42 AM (Roy2Z)

53
Podunk, meet Potemkin.

Podumkin?

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2020 11:42 AM (Fc5rx)

54 also Louisiana

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:42 AM (TOyHQ)

55
They push this too much and they're going to get a bunch of Karens that come together to form a single giant NIMBY Karen.
Posted by: Bert G at July 25, 2020 11:38 AM (OMsf+)

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Nope. Karens will clamor to do as they're told by the hive at all times.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 25, 2020 11:42 AM (g5Xlv)

56 Our city and county merged and I was opposed because I didn't want the city's problems. It's worse than I predicted.
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*Dalek voice*: Consolidate, consolidate, consolidate . . . . .

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 25, 2020 11:43 AM (MIKMs)

57 also Louisiana
Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:42 AM (TOyHQ)

Sending invasive species to Louisiana only makes Louisiana's immune system stronger. The chicoms are messing with powers they can't possibly hope to understand.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 25, 2020 11:43 AM (t+qrx)

58 Barky's minions often took immigrants by the thousands and stuck them in places to overwhelm the suburbs.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 11:32 AM (6f16T)

we have a lot of Guatamalans here
coz SEPA is so close to Guatemala

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:43 AM (TOyHQ)

59 I saw a news article about cops warning ppl not to plant these
whatever they are
Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:34 AM (TOyHQ)

Huh.

https://tinyurl.com/y6hmkgt2

https://tinyurl.com/yygbhhjv

Oh well, probably nothing.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 25, 2020 11:36 AM (t+qrx)

In the DC area... officials are worried about PLANTS doing damage to the environment??

Talk about the pot calling the seed black.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2020 11:43 AM (hku12)

60 9 You know, I've always hated the suburbs.

This shit where if I open my window and stick my head only to bang it on the wall of the house next door does not strike me as the ideal living environment.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (+dsLj)

What they want is you living in a tenement on government guaranteed income and your windows look at a brick wall of the building. That's why we are looking for acreage in north AZ. Be free at least till we die.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 11:43 AM (Jx5Qs)

61 Morning all.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 11:44 AM (Jx5Qs)

62 AP - If President Donald Trump succeeds in getting immigrants in the
country illegally excluded from being counted in the redrawing of U.S.
House districts, California, Florida and Texas would end up with one
less congressional seat each than if every resident were counted,
according to an analysis by a think tank.

Without that population,
California would lose two seats instead of one, Florida would gain one
seat instead of two and Texas would gain two seats instead of three,
according to the analysis by Pew Research Center.

I'm shocked that AP used the word illegally

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 25, 2020 11:44 AM (t+tI7)

63 Our city and county merged and I was opposed because I didn't want the city's problems. It's worse than I predicted.
Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2020 11:41 AM (Tnijr)

Its pretty simple math. The tax revenue off one more affluent voter out in the burbs can buy two or more poor votes downtown.

Posted by: Ridiculous at July 25, 2020 11:44 AM (XAbde)

64 https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyzdkhoj

Virginia residents warned not to plant mysterious seeds apparently sent from China
Posted by: vmom 2020

I won't know what to think until I hear from Adam Schiff.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 25, 2020 11:44 AM (+y/Ru)

65 > Louisville incorporated all of Jefferson County

And Jefferson County is a shithole.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2020 11:44 AM (3H9h1)

66 the seeds are often mislabeled as "jewelry"

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:44 AM (TOyHQ)

67 "It's communism pure and simple. It's the end of the middle class, The end of capitalism, The END" nevergiveup

the problem is, it is never SIMPLE. They worm their way into every institution, and twist the meanings of words, hide their intent, fire those that object for racism, etc. If that is not enough chaos and deceit, they start a fake virus shutdown, or coordinate national riots (supported by mayors).

Even the Soviets worked hard at hiding their Simple Communism, which they "simply" moved into our institutions, as theirs was failing. Victor Hansen describes how his more rural area was destroyed ... illegals exempted from laws that maintain order/civility.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2020 11:44 AM (Cus5s)

68 Nah, they changed the law to expand their tax jurisdiction to the suburbs so they could continue taxing the very same people who left to get away from the high taxes in the first place.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:39 AM (+dsLj)

they didn't move far enough.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2020 11:44 AM (V2Yro)

69 They push this too much and they're going to get a bunch of Karens that come together to form a single giant NIMBY Karen.

Posted by: Bert G

"And I'll form... the Mask!" - Karen 5

"Like hell you will... social distance yourself!" - Karen 4

Posted by: mikeski at July 25, 2020 11:44 AM (P1f+c)

70 Damn 'building next door'...cawfee.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 11:44 AM (Jx5Qs)

71
These shops and restaurants have an insanely high failure rate.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 25, 2020 11:39 AM (7Fj9P)

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So you can live over a vacant shop or restaurant. Which, of course, will be perfectly secure and maintained during its vacancy. And therefore the value of your condo over it will never decline.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (mht8P)

72 https://bit.ly/30MLrFp
*******
A&E's Viewership Plummets 49 Percent After Canceling 'Live PD'

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (1Dmt5)

73 One good thing about Metro Atlanta is several Counties.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (fU1ci)

74 Obama's suburban power grab was illegal as Hell. I m surprised,nobody challenged it in court.

Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (mpXpK)

75 Barky's minions often took immigrants by the thousands and stuck them in places to overwhelm the suburbs.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 11:32 AM (6f16T)
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Drive down any street here: Homes with 2-car garages have 2 more vehicles at the curb and 2-4 parked in the yard.

Posted by: socalcon at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (Roy2Z)

76 Nah, they changed the law to expand their tax jurisdiction to the suburbs so they could continue taxing the very same people who left to get away from the high taxes in the first place.
Posted by: Two Weeks

Here too. Against all protests and votes. Got annexed into city limits.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (R4aZ2)

77 https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyzdkhoj

Virginia residents warned not to plant mysterious seeds apparently sent from China

Posted by: vmom 2020

Has Donald Sutherland been seen in the vicinity?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (t+tI7)

78 Is there any 3rd Amendment defense against this, since mandating "low-income housing" is about garrisoning BLM shock troops to cow the populace and prevent any Deplorables from assembling?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (SfYbS)

79 Karennnado. A whirlwind of nagging Karen's.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (Jx5Qs)

80 9 You know, I've always hated the suburbs.

This shit where if I open my window and stick my head only to bang it on the wall of the house next door does not strike me as the ideal living environment.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (+dsLj)

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Preferable to living in a matchbox apartment with thousands of other tenants.

Though not by much.

Posted by: SMH at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (RU4sa)

81 That's why we are looking for acreage in north AZ.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob
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Too much snow (any snow is too much).

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (gtatv)

82 >>I'm shocked that AP used the word illegally

I'm not shocked their math sucks.

I've seen studies that say California might lose as many as 3 seats if illegals aren't counted.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)

83 Down With Whitey

Posted by: ... at July 25, 2020 11:46 AM (uEbPt)

84 Old and busted: Johnny Appleseed

New and shiny: XiXi Commieseed

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 25, 2020 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)

85 Now, after witnessing the events of the past 40+ years, I am utterly convinced that my great-grandfather was both a prophet and a certified genius when he pulled up stakes and moved his family to Wyoming in 1903. The absolute best thing about Wyoming is that there is nothing there (to this day) that qualifies as a "city".
Posted by: CyberCipher at July 25, 2020 11:39 AM (++/pX)

When I was in Alaska last summer the only real city I went to was Anchorage, which was pretty neat because people there are more live and let live because of the harsh conditions. Fairbanks isn't so much a city as an outpost of civilization on the edge of wilderness.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 11:46 AM (y7DUB)

86
What they want is you living in a tenement on government guaranteed income and your windows look at a brick wall of the building.

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Khrushchyovkas FTW!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 25, 2020 11:46 AM (mht8P)

87 It's long past time to declare an insurrection in Portland and elsewhere.

Posted by: F2000 at July 25, 2020 11:47 AM (IIUCn)

88 Mixed feelings, as always. Of course it's bad policy. But watching suburban wine moms get what they voted for wouldn't break my heart either. One of the real problems in this country is voters who vote for outrageous shit but who are fairly insulated from the consequences.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 25, 2020 11:47 AM (H5knJ)

89 44 "Residential Mixed Use". It's the Big Idea in property development today. Retail/restaurant* on street level, condos/apartments above. These are usually 4-5 stories, and are popping up like mushrooms everywhere. Just built one in my community. They were trying to develop a high density apartment community, but believe it or not, the locals pushed back and won. For now anyway.
*These shops and restaurants have an insanely high failure rate.

There was one proposed for the old monkey ward square city block, shuttered for decades. A pretty billboard went up onsite, showing how wonderfull. They finally realized the jig was up. The billboard reduced to advertising for "filming base camp" or something. A little bit of detroit right bere in van nuys, the ghetto part around walmart.

Posted by: getting the banned back together at July 25, 2020 11:47 AM (LzdNh)

90 Nope. Karens will clamor to do as they're told by the hive at all times.
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Small clarification: Karens will clamor for YOU to do as you are told by the hive . . .

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 25, 2020 11:47 AM (MIKMs)

91 I really hope the work at home becomes a permanent trend, as I assume doing so will allow rural communities to flourish and have more employment opportunities without having to move closer to cities.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:47 AM (+dsLj)

92 Where I'm at used to be considered rural. Now I suppose it's urban. I'm not in a subdivision or even what most would call a neighborhood, but the city moves closer and wants more control all the time. I hate having to deal with those f'rs.

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2020 11:47 AM (Tnijr)

93 St. Louis city has been dying for decades, and the suburbs just get richer and richer.

************

Here's the funny thing that explains the phenomenon specifically in Philadelphia.

Because of Phillie's evidently insane taxes, a mass exodus of people moved out into the suburbs and out of its tax jurisdiction. As a result Philly lost an insane amount of tax revenue.

So what did they do, lower taxes to entice people back?

Nah, they changed the law to expand their tax jurisdiction to the suburbs so they could continue taxing the very same people who left to get away from the high taxes in the first place.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:39 AM (+dsLj)

Presumably there's a formula here... move black people to the county first, then have them elect Democrats. Then the Democrats can instill "urban values" to county government.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2020 11:48 AM (hku12)

94 I mentioned a boss of mine who lives in an HOA gated community. He literally bought up the land next to him and bought a house located in a cul de sac just to ensure there was enough space between him and the neighbors. For extra measure he sits on the HOA board as well to ensure they don't go full retard nazi. It'a a shame this is the amount of time, money and effort you have to put in to comfortably live in the suburb with enough privacy."

I know an older, wealthier couple who had a very nice house in a city neighborhood. There were houses on either side of them that were not quite in the same class, so as it became possible, they bought the houses on each side of them and tore them down to make gardens. Now they sit on half a city block that's all theirs, inside a big fence.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2020 11:48 AM (V2Yro)

95 This is why they want us to be disarmed. Yes, Virginia, there is a "They".

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2020 11:49 AM (RuIsu)

96 What they want is you living in a tenement on government guaranteed income and your windows look at a brick wall of the building.

Windows, comrade, really? Such luxuries!

Posted by: Comrade Mayor Garcetti, now with a vagina at July 25, 2020 11:49 AM (LzdNh)

97 The heat is on.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 25, 2020 11:49 AM (vuisn)

98 Make America Great Again by bringing the ghetto to the suburbs?

I think not. Wait until the well-to-do NIMBYs in the bedroom communities that commute BY CAR to the cities get a load of that.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at July 25, 2020 11:49 AM (iiT9X)

99 Obama's suburban power grab was illegal as Hell. I m surprised,nobody challenged it in court.
Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (mpXpK)

The absolutely cowardice of the GOP surrender caucus during those eight years is why we shoved Trump up their pansy asses and will continue to do so.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 11:50 AM (y7DUB)

100 34 here's one

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyzdkhoj

Virginia residents warned not to plant mysterious seeds apparently sent from China
Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:36 AM (TOyHQ)

I saw this pop up in the houseplant/succulent forums I frequent this morning. Their consensus seems to be it has something to do with soliciting positive feedback ratings on Amazon or something. The seeds could be anything, dangerous or invasive, but are likely the most common seeds they could lay their hands on.

There's a common scam where Chinese companies on amazon or Ebay when selling seeds use photoshopped pics of plants showing super vibrant colors, etc. and then sending out grass seed when fulfilling the purchase. Yeah, they got $1.99 out of me when I was buying other stuff.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 25, 2020 11:50 AM (Wm5SB)

101 There was supposed to be a huge mixed use development on all the land around Turner Field/FCS.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 11:50 AM (fU1ci)

102 I've mentioned this before, but it's all part of the Agenda 21. Yes some people think it's a conspiracy, but it's not. Smart Growth is part of that agenda. The premise is that they want to do away with rural and suburban living and return all that land "back to nature" and put everyone into urban developments, do away with private vehicles, except for the elite, though.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's On The Road Again &&&& at July 25, 2020 11:50 AM (XOyNr)

103 But watching suburban wine moms get what they voted for wouldn't break my heart either.

********

Starting to see the merit in some proposed voting requirements I've seen around the intertoobz

Women can't vote unless they're married

Men can't vote unless they own property

No one can vote if they don't pay taxes

Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:50 AM (+dsLj)

104 Now in Texas, the real suburbs are the ones where everyone has at least an acre. Sometimes 2.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2020 11:50 AM (V2Yro)

105 Just as "Affirmative Action" placed Marxist shock troops inside every company and eventually corporation - where they have been deployed to harass and intimidate white people and eventually the entire structure from the inside - the Left are now looking to replicate that success in suburbia.

Random cop kills a black guy? Now rioters can easily be deployed in every neighborhood and town instead of just the cities!

Also the cities vote blue, so you turn everywhere blue, not that "voting" is going to matter much soon.

Posted by: ... at July 25, 2020 11:51 AM (uEbPt)

106 Hiya yourselves. It's still too early on a Saturday to be friendly.

Posted by: A lotta nerve at July 25, 2020 11:51 AM (JdcHc)

107 Until the White Russian became the national anthem of ghey Amerikkka, it was the favorite of fans of Ayn Rand. Yes, there was some crossover, and there were also some humorous moments.

Which brings up "We The Living," written 25 years before "Zhivago," and not only a lot tougher story but a classier movie too. Wonder why it never gets mentioned.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 25, 2020 11:51 AM (8IOEj)

108 Too much snow (any snow is too much).

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (gtatv)

Yeah, went to school in upstate NY. 3 ft of the white stuff. Heidis from North MN. Not as much but 30 below. Then again it will be 110 here later in the week.. I always wished I had a winter sport I was passionate about to get though it, MN is hunting, ice fishing. Cross country skiing in really liked but not enough....maybe just some acreage with a mobile home for summer. And the zombie apocalypse.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 11:52 AM (Jx5Qs)

109 So what did they do, lower taxes to entice people back?

Nah, they changed the law to expand their tax jurisdiction to the suburbs so they could continue taxing the very same people who left to get away from the high taxes in the first place.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:39 AM (+dsLj)
-----------------------------------

Extra-territorial jurisdiction.

Some states have passed laws limiting a city's ability to do that.

Posted by: HiHo at July 25, 2020 11:52 AM (gsaS2)

110 >>73 One good thing about Metro Atlanta is several Counties.

North Fulton wanted to secede a couple years ago.
Can't say I blame them.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 25, 2020 11:52 AM (vuisn)

111 Karens do not have to be told by the Hive to do anything. It's baked into the cake. Just like the Borg.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 11:52 AM (LGXGf)

112 If diversity so important, they should be putting up more statues honoring Columbus and the Confederacy.

Columbus increased the diversity of North America by introducing Europeans into North America. More diversity thanks to Columbus.

And diversity in the South? The result of slavery. Yes, slavery was cruel, but if the ends justify the means as the Left tells us, then slavery was a successful diversity initiative. Those Africans weren't going to volunteer to come to North America by themselves.

And no, I am not advocating slavery. I am pointing out the deranged thinking of the diversity crowd. Diversity uber alles is a disgrace.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2020 11:53 AM (gAXBD)

113 Obama's suburban power grab was illegal as Hell. I m surprised,nobody challenged it in court.
Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2020 11:45 AM (mpXpK)

Me too!

Posted by: Justice John King Kamehameha Roberts Bader Kennedy at July 25, 2020 11:53 AM (uEbPt)

114 "Residential Mixed Use". It's the Big Idea in property development today. Retail/restaurant* on street level, condos/apartments above...
*These shops and restaurants have an insanely high failure rate.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

**********

That has happened in the Roaring Fork Valley (Basalt/Carbondale) of CO. Some of those businesses seem rather tenuous in terms of viability.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2020 11:53 AM (Fc5rx)

115
Women can't vote unless they're married

Fuck that. I own property.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2020 11:55 AM (R4aZ2)

116 Obama's suburban power grab was illegal as Hell. I m surprised,nobody challenged it in court.***
I've got an idea how Justice John Iscariot Roberts would've ruled on that, had it gotten to SCOTUS.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 11:56 AM (LGXGf)

117 Yeah, they got $1.99 out of me when I was buying other stuff.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 25, 2020 11:50 AM (Wm5SB)

Me too. Didn't see 'from china'. Vinkas. Beautiful photo. A gazzillion seeds. Only a coupla whatever they were bloomed and then they tried to eat me.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 11:56 AM (Jx5Qs)

118 Personally I don't see how work at home is productive for more than half of employees just as I guess 75% of kids will do schoolwork at home.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 11:57 AM (6f16T)

119
I really hope the work at home becomes a permanent trend, as I assume
doing so will allow rural communities to flourish and have more
employment opportunities without having to move closer to cities.
Me too. I can write programs for CNC machines and 3D printers here in the friendly confines of statly Casa Backwardio and take care of B'Gal at the same time.
Of course, we'll need a massive repatriation of American industry for that to happen, which I hear that PDT is working on.
Faster, please.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at July 25, 2020 11:57 AM (HaL55)

120 Everrything the left does, from kneeling during the Anthem, revisionist history, communizing the education system, to ruining the middle class is to bring America to it's knees and destory it. And ANY concessions, not matter how small, contributes to their success.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2020 11:58 AM (85Gof)

121 ...d and then they tried to eat me.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

**********

Look who's complaining! Ironic.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2020 11:58 AM (Fc5rx)

122 maybe just some acreage with a mobile home for summer. And the zombie apocalypse.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob
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That'll do. And kayaks work really well on the lakes and rivers here. (Don't tell anyone about them, everyone thinks this place is the Sahara desert.)

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at July 25, 2020 11:58 AM (gtatv)

123 The solution is for suburban communities to pass strict zoning laws.

Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2020 11:58 AM (mpXpK)

124 Sandy Springs residents caught a lot of crap for their secession from Fulton County.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 11:58 AM (fU1ci)

125 Wonder where the "dismantle the mansions on Cape Cod" movement is?

Posted by: KT at July 25, 2020 11:27 AM (BVQ+1)

Any "Public Housing" on Martha's Vineyard?...srsly?

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2020 11:58 AM (X/Pw5)

126 The solution is for suburban communities to pass strict zoning laws.
Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2020 11:58 AM (mpXpK)

Not so fast there cowboy

Posted by: Chief Judge Roberts at July 25, 2020 11:59 AM (85Gof)

127 >>Personally I don't see how work at home is productive for more than half of employees just as I guess 75% of kids will do schoolwork at home.

I've worked from home for the last 20 years. The difference from kids doing distance learning is that if I don't do my job I don't get paid.

I end up working more because I don't have to waste 2 hours a day commuting and my office is always steps away. Plus the whole clothing optional thing is nice.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)

128 I work with enough people at work slacking is most of their work.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 12:00 PM (6f16T)

129 126 Not so fast there cowboy

Posted by: Chief Judge Roberts at July 25, 2020 11:59 AM (85Gof)

Too late AH, zoning laws have already been upheld.

Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2020 12:01 PM (mpXpK)

130
Lol, I think I will plant these random seeds I got in the mail.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

Posted by: The giant at July 25, 2020 12:01 PM (aKsyK)

131 People will do what they already do and move out of the suburbs created by the democrats.

Posted by: obsidian at July 25, 2020 12:01 PM (7+yqP)

132 The "conservative case for ending zoning for single family homes" claims that suburbs are heavily subsidized by cities.

You have to dig to find what the are pointing to. Something about the highway trust fund running a deficit. And blue states are subsidizing red states!!1!11 Not much actual numbers though.

Not that I know jack, but cities dwellers riding mass transit systems are always subsidized by gas tax. Bike lanes are always subsidized by gas tax. Not much of either in the burbs, and if local governments do it then it is their fault for being in the red. Almost all subdivision developments require the developer to make all utility and road improvements and deed them them over. This is paid by the home owners.

Back to gas tax for road funding - those paying the most gas tax are the ones buying the most gas are those driving the most which is the suburbanites.

Article tried to attach some fiscal rational to a scheme which has been long known to be based upon social engineering - to jam pack as many people into as small a place as possible because it is only fair that all get to enjoy inner city crime.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 12:01 PM (1g7ch)

133 Me too. I can write programs for CNC machines and 3D printers here in the friendly confines of statly Casa Backwardio and take care of B'Gal at the same time.
Of course, we'll need a massive repatriation of American industry for that to happen, which I hear that PDT is working on.
Faster, please.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at July 25, 2020 11:57 AM (HaL55)

That would be neat. If I need a smoke shifter fitting for a 1998 Greeble XL, I call the machine shop down the street, he browses the list of programs, rents yours, prints/machines/sinters my part, and I get it that afternoon.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 25, 2020 12:02 PM (t+qrx)

134 My one zoning law, you can only build on a piece of land where the house is far enough for your neighbors they can't see you taking a piss from your porch.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 25, 2020 12:02 PM (4thlk)

135 Hogmartin

Did you create a tool for getting around paywalls?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)

136 Here's how it works: luxury condos require low income section. In time the wealthy condo owners tire of the low income groups pathologies.

The property owners sell more condos to the state for low income types.

Lovely small New England towns become third world shitholes.

Posted by: Regular joe at July 25, 2020 12:03 PM (L9P9s)

137 Much suburban zoning is in large part guided by the UN's 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.

Often federal and state funding are dependent on using these guidelines.

Local lawmakers all over are using it, and it has almost nothing to do with minority population and everything to do with numbers. Specifically inventory. Of people.

Posted by: Bumr50 at July 25, 2020 12:03 PM (SEBYZ)

138 I know an older, wealthier couple who had a very
nice house in a city neighborhood. There were houses on either side of
them that were not quite in the same class, so as it became possible,
they bought the houses on each side of them and tore them down to make
gardens. Now they sit on half a city block that's all theirs, inside a
big fence.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 25, 2020 11:48 AM

My biological mother and her husband did this on a poorer, redneck scale. They didn't tear down the houses, though. They refurbed them and rented them out. That way they get the rental income and can control who their immediate neighbors are. They're up to four houses on their block that they have bought and now rent out.

Posted by: Bert G at July 25, 2020 12:03 PM (OMsf+)

139 That'll do. And kayaks work really well on the lakes and rivers here. (Don't tell anyone about them, everyone thinks this place is the Sahara desert.)

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at July 25, 2020 11:58 AM (gtatv)

Yup. I've moved about 6 times. When we were in Idaho, back East relatives had no idea of states out here. They'd say "where are you now? Iowa?"

So you in the White Mountains? Thats where we are looking most recently. If you want to stay secret, no worries. We all kinda do.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:03 PM (Jx5Qs)

140 Hogmartin

Did you create a tool for getting around paywalls?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)

I didn't know I was supposed to. outline.com sometimes works, but I neither wrote that nor introduced it to the Horde (and it doesn't work for everything).

Posted by: hogmartin at July 25, 2020 12:04 PM (t+qrx)

141 People will do what they already do and move out of the suburbs created by the democrats.***
This is true. Were it not for the brutal winters I would seriously be looking at South Dakota. I really admire Governor Kristi Noem. But man, those long, long winters.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 12:04 PM (LGXGf)

142 Almost less funny than Werner Herzog.

Almost.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 25, 2020 12:04 PM (ysmsf)

143 Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 11:46 AM (y7DUB)

Urban areas seem to intensify and focus "teh stupid". With the mobs starting to turn against their progressive overlords, and the situation deteriorating in our cities all across the nation, how long before one our Marxist urban officials asks himself, "What would Bashar Al-Assad do?" And no, I don't think that they'd hesitate to commit that scale of crime in order to maintain their power.

Posted by: CyberCipher at July 25, 2020 12:04 PM (++/pX)

144 That would be neat. If I need a smoke shifter fitting for a 1998 Greeble
XL, I call the machine shop down the street, he browses the list of
programs, rents yours, prints/machines/sinters my part, and I get it
that afternoon.

And a limited time, you'll get a pair of muffler bearings FREE! But you must respond within the next 72 hours to qualify. Operators are standing by.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at July 25, 2020 12:05 PM (HaL55)

145 Portland really went in for Mass Transit and bike travel, and I admit they did a good job...but. They also have their plan to force usage of the system. Any old house that gets sold is converted into a single building with 3 condos and no off street parking. Any single story, block sized old apartment complex with a full row of garages becomes a 10 story condo with stores/restaurants on the bottom floor and no off street parking. Sure you can have a car, but it better stay out in the suburbs, because you can't park it anywhere. Add in all the homeless living in RVs and the roadside parking spots converted into bike rental stands and you create a city full of disgruntled citizens with really good stamina for walking around and the patience it creates when you have to walk 2 mines instead of driving minutes.

Posted by: Downcast at July 25, 2020 12:05 PM (xgpfE)

146 >>I didn't know I was supposed to. outline.com sometimes works, but I neither wrote that nor introduced it to the Horde (and it doesn't work for everything)

Ok thanks.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 12:05 PM (ZLI7S)

147 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2020 12:06 PM (85Gof)

148 117 Yeah, they got $1.99 out of me when I was buying other stuff.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 25, 2020 11:50 AM (Wm5SB)

Me too. Didn't see 'from china'. Vinkas. Beautiful photo. A gazzillion seeds. Only a coupla whatever they were bloomed and then they tried to eat me.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 11:56 AM (Jx5Qs)

Audrey 3?

Posted by: Seymore Krellborn at July 25, 2020 12:06 PM (NgKpN)

149 The heat is on.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 25, 2020 11:49 AM

Now I want to watch Beverly Hills Cop.

https://youtu.be/NiuBWPKHTPA

Posted by: Bert G at July 25, 2020 12:07 PM (OMsf+)

150 Audrey 3?
Cleopatra.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at July 25, 2020 12:08 PM (HaL55)

151 Herzog's "Duck Soup" was a laff riot. Superior to Bergman's.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2020 12:08 PM (RuIsu)

152 You know how to get out of AFFH? Don't take any money from HUD. Those fucknuggets were more trouble than they were worth before this latest chickenshit bull shit.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at July 25, 2020 12:08 PM (AgR7f)

153 In my surburb/rural area over 5000 new apartment spaces have been created with no...NO... improvement to the infrastructure. Only two roads in and out. Traffic is a nightmare.
Assholes.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2020 12:08 PM (axyOa)

154 The rights of women to be parties to contracts, own property, and hold employment were hot political issues in the first generation of the new American republic, as was the disestablishment of state churches whose ministers and officers were state employees, supported by state funds.

Those were the subjects the new Americans were arguing out and acting on when they might have been taking care of that slavery thing. So you see they did have some things on their minds. It wasn't all Molly racing TenBrook and refining the mint julep.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 25, 2020 12:08 PM (8IOEj)

155 149, I think Shakedown was Bob Seger's only number one.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 12:09 PM (fU1ci)

156 Audrey 3?

Posted by: Seymore Krellborn at July 25, 2020 12:06 PM (NgKpN)

Hilarious movie. "I'mmmma deeeentist!!!" Man that scene with Murray and Martin was priceless.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:09 PM (Jx5Qs)

157 Not that I know jack, but cities dwellers riding mass transit systems are always subsidized by gas tax. Bike lanes are always subsidized by gas tax.

Many states transit systems and bike lanes are paid for by general revenue. The surface streets in town are allegedly maintained from general revenue.

Texas, like many other states subsidizes the local school system with lottery and gasoline taxes. Gasoline taxes rarely get turned in to transit related projects.

Posted by: 🐧 at July 25, 2020 12:09 PM (C+evo)

158 Any news on the Powderhorn park in Minneapolis?

All those vagrants camping - weather is nice now, if hot and humid.

Can't help but think once it gets cold . . Minnesota cold ... a bunch of those folks freezing their ass off in a tent are gonna look at all those Karens and their emasculated gelding spouses sitting in a nice warm comfortable spacious house ...

And do what comes natural.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 25, 2020 12:10 PM (O67g7)

159 Comments about my lack of mirth are merely a reflection of the ennui and existential horror of the commenter, who's spirit is slowly being crushed asunder by the unbearable burden of generating witty comments and pretending that this thread has meaning.

Posted by: Werner Herzog at July 25, 2020 12:10 PM (H5knJ)

160 Team Lawfare is also having a meltdown this morning.
Good times.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 11:24 AM (ZLI7S)
~~~~~

Thanks for that link. Lisa Page is terribly upset also. Ha!

I'm so looking forward to the great reveals and indictments, and I suspect that will happen before Labor Day.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2020 12:10 PM (sGotD)

161 PSA, if you receive any of those seeds DO NOT throw them away or flush them. Call you county extension agent and let them take them.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 25, 2020 12:10 PM (u08BD)

162 If it is my property I should be able to choose what to build on it
F zoning

Posted by: Kurt at July 25, 2020 12:10 PM (RC/Kc)

163 My neighbor's work-from-home paradise was ruined with the COVID closing of wifi-ed restaurants (specifically *bucks) and libraries.

Now he's been back in dimly lit spare room with dogs and kids barking! Just like the rest of us schlubb ex-office workers.

That AH used to rub our noses in it daily, now we're all in the lockdown cesspool together. Eat a bag, neighbor!

Posted by: socalcon at July 25, 2020 12:10 PM (Roy2Z)

164 Jealous and resentful this morning. Lost my good electrical contractor for the next week while he and his family go splash around in the Wisconsin Dells. In his words, minus the profanity, "What's the use of all that Chlorine, if not to kill all the bugs and keep the humans alive"

Posted by: Downcast at July 25, 2020 12:10 PM (xgpfE)

165 So you in the White Mountains? Thats where we are looking most recently.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob
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Nice areas in the White Mountains. Best make sure of your water supply on those "40 acre lots". Satellite views of the area will help you see that there is nary a tree on many of those lots.

I haven't been able to convince SWMBO to move out of Tempe. I'm still working on it though!

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at July 25, 2020 12:11 PM (gtatv)

166 The PTB, some enthusiastic, some reluctant, did that here in NW Harris County under Barky's reign.

"Feel the vibrant urban energy," they said.

"You'll enjoy the diversity of cultures," they said.

"FU!" I said. I like the bucolic serenity of my semi-rural area.

Well, the constable and sheriff deputies are kept much busier now cuffing and stuffing the "vibrant urban energized" yutes and grifters and violent offenders who prey on such easy suburbanite marks.
The nice places have gone crappy and the crappy places have been abandoned. But, if you want a tattoo, need a check cashed, smoke shop wares, fortune told, a happy ending massage, auto title loan, pawn shop, Medicaid health or dental services, IRS Rapid Refunds of the EIC, well our new unincorporated Pottersville has it all.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2020 12:11 PM (q1Pj5)

167 UN's 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.

Put together by "experts!"
And we've learned our lesson about experts.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2020 12:11 PM (axyOa)

168 Thread before the Gardening Thread!!

Posted by: Weasel at July 25, 2020 12:11 PM (MVjcR)

169 We have 'Metro' regional government here in northwest Oregon. Its an extra layer of taxes, fees and regulation. They plan and zone everything. Like a cancer they slowly spread eliminating single family dwelling, upping density, and at the same time buying up and locking us out of small wild parcels... That need protected. They literally have locked up a green belt behind my house next to a little steam for years to study the,impacts on the wild life if they put a walking trail throught it, no dogs allowed of course cause it would disturbe the wildlife. Dont worry about the wild cats, and vagrants camping though. A trail behind a neighborhood you cant walk your dog on....

Posted by: KarlHungus at July 25, 2020 12:13 PM (r0XR3)

170 >>I'm so looking forward to the great reveals and indictments, and I suspect that will happen before Labor Day.

The releasing of the classified documents would seem to indicate the investigation is done with them and now it's time to start filling in the holes for the public before the hammer.

Battle space prep.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 12:13 PM (ZLI7S)

171 Did anyone here notice that Judy Dyble, original singer in Fairport Convention, died on the 12th?

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 12:13 PM (y7DUB)

172 The Count lives in Antioch, CA.?

Small world.

Posted by: nip at July 25, 2020 12:13 PM (cpS4u)

173
Things you never find in bike lanes in Houston: bikes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 25, 2020 12:13 PM (mht8P)

174 JS, last year show here is Dead and Co free stream tonight.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 12:14 PM (fU1ci)

175 Thanks Charlie.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)

176 158 Average temps start dropping in October... right before the election.

Hmmm.

Posted by: socalcon at July 25, 2020 12:14 PM (Roy2Z)

177 Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 25, 2020 12:08 PM (8IOEj)

Women were first given the right to vote in 1869 in Wyoming. The legislator from South Pass City that spearheaded women's suffrage argued that if the nation was going to give former slaves the right to vote, and the vast majority of them cannot read or write, why would we not give women the right to vote, the majority of which can read and write.

Posted by: CyberCipher at July 25, 2020 12:15 PM (++/pX)

178 PSA, if you receive any of those seeds DO NOT throw them away or flush them. Call you county extension agent and let them take them.
Posted by: Ben Had

Fire would also work.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2020 12:16 PM (R4aZ2)

179 Unbearable burdens are borne anyway. It's what humans do.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2020 12:17 PM (RuIsu)

180 I've decided to trim my quarantine beard today. It has become too unruly. Maybe if I let it reach ZZ Top length the weight would calm it down but I can't wait that long.

Not cutting the hair though. I've got a Fabio thing going on.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2020 12:17 PM (yQpMk)

181 Interesting that Wyoming elects kleptocrats.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 12:17 PM (fU1ci)

182 Those seeds look like poppy seeds to me, but I might just need more coffee.

Posted by: idlan at July 25, 2020 12:17 PM (MxwDr)

183 "Did anyone here notice that Judy Dyble, original singer in Fairport Convention, died on the 12th?"

I see Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac just died. Good grief, rock stars dying of old age.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 25, 2020 12:17 PM (4thlk)

184 Battle space prep.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 12:13 PM (ZLI7S)

Isn't that Space Force jurisdiction? They have lawyers?
Silly me! Everybody has lawyers.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 25, 2020 12:19 PM (e1mEI)

185 Nice areas in the White Mountains. Best make sure of your water supply on those "40 acre lots". Satellite views of the area will help you see that there is nary a tree on many of those lots.

I haven't been able to convince SWMBO to move out of Tempe. I'm still working on it though!
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at July 25, 2020 12:11 PM (gtatv)

Tempe? The hell!? We need to plan a SWMOME. Get some of these other reprobates out here. Yea, my favorite thing now is to look at Satellite view and zoom out. Hooooly fuck are they isolated. And barren. But around Heber the aquifer is monstrous. Near the surface, deep and sparkling clean. Wish i was more handy. Wells not cheap 20-3o K then Solar I know fuck all about....too much.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:19 PM (Jx5Qs)

186 179 Unbearable burdens are borne anyway. It's what humans do.
Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2020 12:17 PM (RuIsu)

yes

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 12:19 PM (TOyHQ)

187 What scares Stephen King?

Stephen King@StephenKing
I have started to see a lot of Trump signs in my little patch of America, and each one provokes the same surge of unreality. I think, "Really? After all the deaths, and all he's done to wreck the economy? REALLY?"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 25, 2020 12:19 PM (+y/Ru)

188 Watching the scene from The Godfather Part II where Trujillo or Batista announces on January 1, 1959 that he is leaving Havana, and Castro and the communists overrun the Presidential palace and take over.

Sounds like several U.S. Cities today.

Posted by: mercenary13 at July 25, 2020 12:19 PM (E2Rzh)

189 153 In my surburb/rural area over 5000 new apartment spaces have been created with no...NO... improvement to the infrastructure. Only two roads in and out. Traffic is a nightmare.
Assholes.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2020 12:08 PM (axyOa)
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Now, with Donald's EO, the community can buy that property and re-purpose it.

Posted by: HiHo at July 25, 2020 12:20 PM (gsaS2)

190 You know how to get out of AFFH? Don't take any money from HUD. Those fucknuggets were more trouble than they were worth before this latest chickenshit bull shit.

This is nothing new.

Thirty years ago, Alphonso Jackson, president of the Dallas Housing Authority and later W's HUD secretary, constructed a low-income tenement adjacent to a fashionable part of upscale city of Plano.

They budgeted more for the legal bills than for the rest of the project since they knew that the residents of Plano would sue the DHA for the destruction of their neighborhoods, schools and property values.

They walked into this deal knowing that over half the cost of the project would be spent by lawyers defending this move.

They also came into this deal knowing that there was no existing social services or public transportation.

This was raw FU politics.

Posted by: 🐧 at July 25, 2020 12:20 PM (C+evo)

191 Fire would also work.
Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2020 12:16 PM (R4aZ2)
~~~~~

Not always:

"As opposed to serotinous cones, which protect enclosed seeds during a fire, the actual seeds of many plants in fire-prone environments need fire, directly or indirectly, to germinate. These plants produce seeds with a tough coating that can lay dormant, awaiting a fire, for several years."

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2020 12:20 PM (sGotD)

192 why would we not give women the right to vote, the majority of which can read and write.

Posted by: CyberCipher at July 25, 2020 12:15 PM (++/pX)

That was when women were women....today? No comment. Well men were men too, so theres that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:21 PM (Jx5Qs)

193 181 Interesting that Wyoming elects kleptocrats.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 12:17 PM (fU1ci)

I think that you'll find that most Wyoming politicians largely subscribe to the Ferengi rules of acquisition.

Posted by: CyberCipher at July 25, 2020 12:21 PM (++/pX)

194 They elites hate private ownership of property by anyone who is not them. They want to emulate China. All property belongs to the government and the owner leases the property for 70 years (paid upfront when property is acquired). Then the property goes back to the government after 70 years. SO in the US we lease our property yearly by paying property Tax. In China its all upfront.
Now, some cities in China (Shanhai and Chongqing) have property taxes on top of the 70 year lease. (Thats a double fucking of the citizens that makes leftist mouths water)

That 70 years is ending now so it will interesting to see what happens. I think CHina is going to have to extend the leases for free to keep the citizens from burning the joint down.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at July 25, 2020 12:21 PM (cCxiu)

195 I pretty much stopped listening to Fleetwood Mac after Peter Green and Danny Kirwan split.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 12:22 PM (y7DUB)

196 These plants produce seeds with a tough coating that can lay dormant, awaiting a fire, for several years."

Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2020 12:20 PM (sGotD)

Wow. You learn that at Spellman?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:22 PM (Jx5Qs)

197 >>>Texas, like many other states subsidizes the local school system with lottery and gasoline taxes. Gasoline taxes rarely get turned in to transit related projects.

And that is why highway 'trust funds' are at a deficit. (as the 'conservative case' for communal housing claimed)

The Federal highway fund had over a trillion $$$ IOU sitting in it 25 years ago. I don't even think the official federal deficit was a trillion in '85, mostly because lawmakers were raiding all that money generated by gas tax.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 12:22 PM (1g7ch)

198 Stephen King@StephenKing
I have started to see a lot of Trump signs in my little patch of America, and each one provokes the same surge of unreality. I think, "Really? After all the deaths, and all he's done to wreck the economy? REALLY?"

Everyone knows this guy writes horror fiction, right? All he knows is how to terrorize people with dystopian visions and fantasy.

Familiarity with the real world? Zero.

Consider the source.

Posted by: 🐧 at July 25, 2020 12:23 PM (C+evo)

199 I see Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac just died. Good grief, rock stars dying of old age.
His guitar tone was much sought after by other blues players. Even the great BB King admired PG's sound. IIRC it was a Les Paul through a Fender amp. Not sure what, if any, stomp boxes he used.

Too bad he got his brains scrambled by drugs at some big party in Germany. The story of Fleetwood Mac is a strange one.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at July 25, 2020 12:24 PM (HaL55)

200 Fuck off, King.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 12:24 PM (y7DUB)

201 That was when women were women....today? No comment. Well men were men too, so theres that.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:21 PM (Jx5Qs)

And Sheep were scared.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's On The Road Again &&&& at July 25, 2020 12:24 PM (XOyNr)

202 Heh
Activists in Portland are saying Veterans have created a Wall of Vets to protect protesters from Feds. They interviewed two. Both navy guys.
Wow.
I can think of at least 40 or so who are in complete support of the Feds.
I guess it shows the military is a reflection of society. I could insert a navy joke here but it's really not funny.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2020 12:24 PM (axyOa)

203 Now, with Donald's EO, the community can buy that property and re-purpose it.
Posted by: HiHo

I would recommend an impact zone for an artillery range. Give the current residents notice to vacate if you're feeling charitable.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 25, 2020 12:25 PM (SfYbS)

204 Consider the source.

Posted by: at July 25, 2020 12:23 PM (C+evo)

yeah, he and his wife hate Catholics too. Probably all Christians.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:25 PM (Jx5Qs)

205 Low income "housing", section 8 reservations, CDBG block grants, blah, blah, blah.

All crap from mordor on the potomac that don't work, fills the pockets of grifters and loved by all democrats.

And paid for by the likes of me and you.

How about just leaving people alone to either rise or enjoy their squalor.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2020 12:25 PM (Z+IKu)

206 I saw this happen to Friendswood. Rural for me when I retire, if it doesn't all go south first.

Posted by: Texican ette at July 25, 2020 12:25 PM (j8LS/)

207 I could insert a navy joke here but it's really not funny.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2020 12:24 PM (axyOa)

---

It's never a bad time to make a squid joke.

Posted by: SMH at July 25, 2020 12:26 PM (RU4sa)

208 That was when women were women....today? No comment. Well men were men too, so theres that.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:21 PM (Jx5Qs)

The best thing about it? It gives all of us the opportunity to point out to the "Women's studies" professors that Wyoming was the first state to give women the right to vote. The reaction is predictable. Reeeeeeeeeee!

Posted by: CyberCipher at July 25, 2020 12:26 PM (++/pX)

209 Too bad he got his brains scrambled by drugs at some big party in Germany. The story of Fleetwood Mac is a strange one.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at July 25, 2020 12:24 PM (HaL55)

You never hear of a ukulele player getting their brains crumbled on drugs.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:26 PM (Jx5Qs)

210 Tempe? The hell!? We need to plan a SWMOME. -snip-
Wish i was more handy. Wells not cheap 20-3o K then Solar I know fuck all about....too much.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob
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Solar works when the sun is out, White mountains get great storms in both Winter *and* Summer monsoon season (right now).

Wells are a one time cost, solar panels lose 20% of their output pretty quickly, size up accordingly.

LOL. I take it you're pretty close to us. The MOMEs seem to be associated with shooting, eating and adult beverages. So a SWMOME might work as a camping weekend anywhere on the rim; but, right now the rim is getting storm/hammered and turns cold (well cold for desert dwellers) in Sept.
Next spring?

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at July 25, 2020 12:27 PM (gtatv)

211 195 I pretty much stopped listening to Fleetwood Mac after Peter Green and Danny Kirwan split.

The Weston / Welch Mac is underrated. The band bent them over IMO. Certainly Weston belongs in the Hall Of Fame with the others.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 25, 2020 12:27 PM (ykYG2)

212 I have not had a haircut or shaved in about 4 months now. I've decided to go full ZZ Top. Right now I'm somewhere between homeless man who hears voices and Koranic scholar.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 25, 2020 12:27 PM (H5knJ)

213 does Stephen King still live in Maine? Or is he at his other house in Florida?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 12:27 PM (TOyHQ)

214 What scares Stephen King?

Stephen King@StephenKing

I have started to see a lot of Trump signs in my little patch of
America, and each one provokes the same surge of unreality. I think,
"Really? After all the deaths, and all he's done to wreck the economy?
REALLY?"

WTF is he talking about? President Trump didn't cause those things, that was all China's fault.

Reality: how does it work?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at July 25, 2020 12:28 PM (HaL55)

215 that said: Peter Green was one of a kind. RIP.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 25, 2020 12:28 PM (ykYG2)

216 Look, I'm not lazy, I did the homework. I hit Ctrl+F.

Why are we making fun of Werner Herzog?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 25, 2020 12:29 PM (gd9RK)

217 202 Heh
Activists in Portland are saying Veterans have created a Wall of Vets to protect protesters from Feds. They interviewed two. Both navy guys.
Wow.
I can think of at least 40 or so who are in complete support of the Feds.
I guess it shows the military is a reflection of society. I could insert a navy joke here but it's really not funny.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2020 12:24 PM (axyOa)

Antifa has been actively recruiting Vets on College campuses for years.

My Son has been approached by them a number of times.

And yes, he was in the Navy. Its not the same Navy I was in. The culture and traditions that made it a great fighting force, have disappeared.

Posted by: Seymore Krellborn at July 25, 2020 12:29 PM (NgKpN)

218

The suburbs will be confiscated and dismantled into vast feudal hereditary estates for The Elite.

The persons living there will be collectivized into vast housing projects/hab complexes with masstrans onto the estates and into the industrial inner city factory hives.

'To Save the Planet, For the Children'

Posted by: *shifty eyes* at July 25, 2020 12:30 PM (d6DSt)

219 You never hear of a ukulele player getting their brains crumbled on drugs.

This is true.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at July 25, 2020 12:30 PM (HaL55)

220 Stephen King@StephenKing
I have started to see a lot of Trump signs in my little patch of America, and each one provokes the same surge of unreality. I think, "Really? After all the deaths, and all he's done to wreck the economy? REALLY?"

Not known for his sanity.

Posted by: Infidel at July 25, 2020 12:30 PM (R4aZ2)

221 OK, B'Gal's up. BBL

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at July 25, 2020 12:31 PM (HaL55)

222 Suburbs are where the middle class lives. You cannot be against suburbs and say you want to nurture the middle class. Doesn't work, unless of course you are a Democrat who can rely on the media to never bring it up, right NPR?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 25, 2020 12:31 PM (SunXg)

223 212 I have not had a haircut or shaved in about 4 months now. I've decided to go full ZZ Top. Right now I'm somewhere between homeless man who hears voices and Koranic scholar.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 25, 2020 12:27 PM (H5knJ)

I'm still trimming the goatee... use the trimmer to save around it.

But have not cut the hair in months. Down to my shoulders and can pull it back into a pony tail again.

At 61 I thought, what the hell, probably the last time I'll be able to grow long hair again.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 25, 2020 12:31 PM (NgKpN)

224 Stanley Kurtz was way ahead of the curve on Obama. He was the first and only one investigating the Annenburg Project and the Joyce Foundation and all of Obama's trailmarks.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2020 12:32 PM (H8QX8)

225 AFFH is designed to put an end to single family zoning, while also pressing suburbs to build ~~high-density low-income housing~~ slums that would be occupied by ~~residents of nearby cities~~ hood rats.

FIFY.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 12:32 PM (4eDGJ)

226 141 People will do what they already do and move out of the suburbs created by the democrats.***
This is true. Were it not for the brutal winters I would seriously be looking at South Dakota. I really admire Governor Kristi Noem. But man, those long, long winters.
Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 12:04 PM (LGXGf)

Depends on where you are, Old Dude.
Around here, they aren't that bad (full disclosure: I lived in Northern MN for a few years).
Anyway, I'll take my western SD winters any day over the south's summertime heat & humidity.

Posted by: ChuckALuck at July 25, 2020 12:32 PM (tkm0U)

227 'Why are we making fun of Werner Herzog?'

Because it's there.

Posted by: Weiner HurtZod at July 25, 2020 12:32 PM (Tnijr)

228 You cannot be against suburbs and say you want to nurture the middle class. Doesn't work, unless of course you are a Democrat who can rely on the media to never bring it up, right NPR?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 25, 2020 12:31 PM (SunXg)

Are democrats even giving lip service to the middle class anymore?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2020 12:33 PM (H8QX8)

229 This sounds fun:

The Louisville Metro Police Department will close roads and increase their presence, among other precautions, as armed militias are planning to protest downtown Saturday.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2020 12:33 PM (3H9h1)

230 WTF is he talking about? President Trump didn't cause those things, that was all China's fault.
Reality: how does it work?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at July 25, 2020 12:28 PM (HaL55)

Goebbels would be proud.

Posted by: Justice John King Kamehameha Roberts Bader Kennedy at July 25, 2020 12:34 PM (uEbPt)

231 Out here, they ain't no sidewalks, taxis, bus service; no walk up public health clinics, DPS [DMV], county courts / offices, schools, daycare. There are a lot of cow pastures and horse stables interspersed with the scattered subdivisions.

So drop a Section 8 single mom and her brood into an apartment complex. Without a reliable car, they are isolated from all their usual urban free-stuff comforts.

Insane!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2020 12:34 PM (q1Pj5)

232 Next spring?

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at July 25, 2020 12:27 PM (gtatv)

Yup definitely shooting although we have Ben Avery and Weasel competed there. Seems like a MOME is a coupla days so tripping up north might be hard. I'm in Central Phoenix. If we planned one the SW horde would come out of the woodwork. Going to the NOVAMOME. Big deal for me coming out of the closet. Not social at all. Heidi. Well she would be like that Love Boat chick planning a MOME.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:34 PM (Jx5Qs)

233 'Herzog' in Alte Deutsche means "Unremarkable".

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 25, 2020 12:34 PM (ysmsf)

234 For me, Herzog's work is something to study. Not so much to enjoy. Can't do too much at one sitting.

I'll close my eyes and imagine "Werner Herzog's Vacation"

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2020 12:35 PM (RuIsu)

235 We live on 9 acres outside city limits here in East Texas. Only know 2 neighbors that we might see once a week. Best decision we ever made. My work commute sucks but it's worth it. Typing this reminded me that I need to go check the trail cams. Huge wild hogs coming in every night. Time to get another freezer.

Posted by: TwentytwoLR at July 25, 2020 12:35 PM (VNfNe)

236 You cannot be against suburbs and say you want to nurture the middle class. Doesn't work, unless of course you are a Democrat who can rely on the media to never bring it up, right NPR?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 25, 2020 12:31 PM (SunXg)

Are democrats even giving lip service to the middle class anymore?
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2020 12:33 PM (H8QX

Nope, we are now the "rich" when they say "eat the rich".

Posted by: idlan at July 25, 2020 12:36 PM (MxwDr)

237 Posted by: TwentytwoLR at July 25, 2020 12:35 PM (VNfNe)
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Great nic!

Posted by: Weasel at July 25, 2020 12:36 PM (MVjcR)

238 @206, Texican ette.....Yep, Friendswood. I know it well. Be careful. That city will roll on out and right over top of you.

I remember a decade or two ago when Tomball was a little country town before Houston overflowed its bounds.
More than a decade ago I moved about 40 miles NW of the Houston city limits. I was off of a little 2 lane blacktop. Property taxes were reasonable and it was real country.
Now that 2 lane blacktop is a 4 lane highway. Property taxes have doubled and what was country is now a bedroom community. Thank god I bought a couple acres.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at July 25, 2020 12:36 PM (cCxiu)

239 So drop a Section 8 single mom and her brood into an apartment complex.

Rx for a slum.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 12:36 PM (4eDGJ)

240 Are democrats even giving lip service to the middle class anymore?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2020 12:33 PM (H8QX

I don't think they're giving lip service to anyone but criminals, looters, murderers felons, arsonists, gang members and illegals. Oh and black people.

It's very strange during an election year. Pretty sure they know their media is still covering completely for them and no one really knows what's going on.

Posted by: Justice John King Kamehameha Roberts Bader Kennedy at July 25, 2020 12:37 PM (uEbPt)

241 At 61 I thought, what the hell, probably the last time I'll be able to grow long hair again.
Posted by: Romeo13
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That ship sailed long ago for me. I'm now folliclely challenged.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at July 25, 2020 12:38 PM (gtatv)

242 I have to go out amongst the mask people. Wish me luck.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 25, 2020 12:39 PM (SfYbS)

243 Stanley Kurtz was way ahead of the curve on Obama. He was the first and only one investigating the Annenburg Project and the Joyce Foundation and all of Obama's trailmarks.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2020 12:32 PM (H8QX

Don't recall where I first heard the name of Obama's church. But it was early in the campaign, maybe before he cinched the nomination.

So I looked it up. Right there on the home page was a link to their principles. Number one through ten were variations of, "I hate everything about Whitey and they must be destroyed." Number eleven was, "And those Greek homos too."

As soon as his church hit the MSM a few weeks later the 'church' heavily revised web content.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 12:39 PM (1g7ch)

244 Are democrats even giving lip service to the middle class anymore?

You mean the "bourgeoisie," comrade. No, they're not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 12:41 PM (4eDGJ)

245 Peter Green....one of the greats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xov_wYtCwOI

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2020 12:41 PM (X/Pw5)

246 I try and shave within every few dy's but know last haircut was about 2 days before the apocalypse so Apr 27 abouts. Lucky it was short but now looking like Dr Brown in BTTF

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 12:41 PM (6f16T)

247 Peter Green

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-C6p-GwHfA

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 12:41 PM (y7DUB)

248 Will the Democrats ever get deranged and evil enough to convince the neverTrumpers to back off their commitment to them?
Or do they think the Dems are lying about their demonic commitments?
Or are they actually demonic as well?

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 25, 2020 12:42 PM (lgiXo)

249 Mick Fleetwood recently hosted an all star tribute to Green. I bet it was great.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 12:43 PM (fU1ci)

250 I came in my room to get away from the kids. They followed me. *sigh*

The problem I'm having with being in the house so much is that now whenever I leave, I have low-level anxiety. And it's slightly less low-level each week.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 25, 2020 12:43 PM (rWZ8Y)

251 Going to the NOVAMOME. Big deal for me coming out of the closet. Not social at all. Heidi. Well she would be like that Love Boat chick planning a MOME.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob
--
Congrats on getting out to the VOVAMOME!
SWMBO'd is the same.

Spring campout in the desert might work. We wouldn't have to move very far from the Valley for that to work.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at July 25, 2020 12:43 PM (gtatv)

252 I don't think they're giving lip service to anyone but criminals, looters, murderers felons, arsonists, gang members and illegals. Oh and black people.

In short, their core constituency.

It's very strange during an election year. Pretty sure they know their media is still covering completely for them and no one really knows what's going on.
Posted by: Justice John King Kamehameha Roberts Bader Kennedy at July 25, 2020 12:37 PM (uEbPt)

I think they're desperate. They know Trump's re-election will set them back for at least one generation, maybe two, just with his judicial appointments.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 12:43 PM (4eDGJ)

253 >>>The Louisville Metro Police Department will close roads and increase their presence, among other precautions, as armed militias are planning to protest downtown Saturday.

Do they have an approved permit?
Then leave the road open and have a police chase exercise every few minute.
Or don't the cop cars there have brush guards on them?

Or, less fun, close off the side streets and push them all into a cattle corral and from there process them for, at a minimum, obstructing traffic. Many if not most will double down again and again to at least assault on an officer.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 12:44 PM (1g7ch)

254 All this time I thought you guys were talking about Wernher von Braun, but apparently not. Who the fuck is this Herzog guy?

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 25, 2020 12:44 PM (rWZ8Y)

255 202 Heh
Activists in Portland are saying Veterans have created a Wall of Vets to protect protesters from Feds. They interviewed two. Both navy guys.
Wow.
I can think of at least 40 or so who are in complete support of the Feds.
I guess it shows the military is a reflection of society. I could insert a navy joke here but it's really not funny.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2020 12:24 PM (axyOa)

Probably big LCS supporters.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 25, 2020 12:44 PM (e1mEI)

256 Today's Democrats have gone full Marxist with class warfare, the poor, immigrants and minorities are their main clientele.
Opposed to National Socialism where no class warfare was used, everyone worked for the state and knew their position could improve if they worked hard for that state.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 12:45 PM (6f16T)

257 Probably big LCS supporters.

ROTFFLMAO...

Posted by: *shifty eyes* at July 25, 2020 12:46 PM (d6DSt)

258 Nope, we are now the "rich" when they say "eat the rich".
Posted by: idlan at July 25, 2020 12:36 PM (MxwDr)

This.

It's why, for example, in California the Reds are desperate to gut Prop. 13 - to sock it to property owners and give the money to ...

criminals, looters, murderers felons, arsonists, gang members and illegals. Oh and black people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 12:46 PM (4eDGJ)

259 What would be so bad? It would just the Karen, the HOA President, with government guns, power, money, and lawyers to steal your shit, put rapist in your daughter bedroom, and shot your dog.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 25, 2020 12:47 PM (JFO2v)

260 Luego all.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 25, 2020 12:47 PM (Jx5Qs)

261

Read up on the Black Maoists from late 60's early 70's.

BLM, 100%, SSHDD...

Posted by: *shifty eyes* at July 25, 2020 12:47 PM (d6DSt)

262 Probably big LCS supporters.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 25, 2020 12:44 PM (e1mEI)

Bet they wore white socks. Probably walked around skylarking with their hands in their pockets too.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 25, 2020 12:47 PM (t+qrx)

263 Today's Democrats have gone full Marxist with class warfare, the poor, immigrants and minorities are their main clientele.
Opposed to National Socialism where no class warfare was used, everyone worked for the state and knew their position could improve if they worked hard for that state.
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 12:45 PM (6f16T)

Opposed to a phantom.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 12:48 PM (1g7ch)

264 The problem I'm having with being in the house so much is that now whenever I leave, I have low-level anxiety. And it's slightly less low-level each week.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 25, 2020 12:43 PM (rWZ8Y)

{{{{hugs}}}}

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 12:49 PM (TOyHQ)

265 Herzog is a German writer-director. The only thing I've seen by him is Aguirre: The Wrath of God, which is pure madness but a good film.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 25, 2020 12:49 PM (H5knJ)

266 Low income "housing", section 8 reservations, CDBG block grants, blah, blah, blah.

All crap from mordor on the potomac that don't work, fills the pockets of grifters and loved by all democrats.

And paid for by the likes of me and you.

How about just leaving people alone to either rise or enjoy their squalor.....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2020 12:25 PM (Z+IKu)

This.

The Reds want ALL of us to enjoy the same ~~squalor~~ diversity.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 12:49 PM (4eDGJ)

267 9 years here in the suburbs and I can't wait to get out. But it's far better than living in a city. I'll never live in a city.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2020 12:50 PM (YynYJ)

268 Depends on where you are, Old Dude.

Around here, they aren't that bad (full disclosure: I lived in Northern MN for a few years).

Anyway, I'll take my western SD winters any day over the south's summertime heat humidity.Posted by: ChuckALuck at July 25, 2020 12:32 PM (tkm0U)***
I suppose after surviving Northern Minnesota winters, western South Dakota's winters must seem downright balmy. I'm with you on the South's heat and humidity. Was looking at Bristol Tennessee, but noticed what seemed to be a plethora of foreclosed properties. I don't know. On balance Tennessee, with it's no state income tax still seems very appealing. Cities I've investigated vote overwhelmingly Republican--so no democrat lunatics. Big plus+++. Have to wonder, though, if the state isn't in the cross-hairs to flip it blue.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 12:51 PM (LGXGf)

269 >>I think they're desperate. They know Trump's re-election will set them back for at least one generation, maybe two, just with his judicial appointments.

The media is in full gaslight mode covering for the left and pretending Biden is in anyway capable of being president let alone beating Trump by double digits. It's absurd, everyone can see his obvious mental decline for themselves but we are supposed to believe that he is on top of his game because the same media that lies about everything is telling the truth about Slow Joe?

Biden didn't win the Democrat primary, it was handed to him. There is zero enthusiasm for his presidency. He's barely even a blip in the daily news and he's running for president.

There is a full out insurrection going on in Portland and to a slightly lesser degree Seattle, NYC and other blue cities across the country aided and abetted by the local Democrat leadership and the media is trying to make this Trump's fault somehow. The media is twisting themselves in knots trying to excuse this behavior and completely ignoring that we are in the middle of their panic pandemic. Rioters are somehow immune.

For the first time since 1972 Republicans have less than a 25,000 gap of registered voters in Florida. Trump has a 90+ approval rating from Republicans and growing support from both blacks and latinos but Slow Joe is up 10 points on him if FL. Pull the other finger.

They are desperate and it's only going to get more shrill until election day.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 12:51 PM (ZLI7S)

270 267 9 years here in the suburbs and I can't wait to get out. But it's far better than living in a city. I'll never live in a city.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2020 12:50 PM (YynYJ)

I like the burbs
but I'd probably like a more rural burb

Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 12:52 PM (TOyHQ)

271 Tomball, being in Harris County, has been urban assimilated. Magnolia [Montgomery County] is the new outpost of surburbia going north, Hockley to the NNW.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2020 12:52 PM (q1Pj5)

272 The only thing I've seen by him is Aguirre: The Wrath of God, which is pure madness but a good film.

My students invited me to their chat site. I used "der Zorn Gottes" as my screen name.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 25, 2020 12:53 PM (gd9RK)

273 Yoda called. Said "Reds dead want we". Could go either way.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2020 12:53 PM (RuIsu)

274 I can't figure out why police/feds have not deployed the Israeli skunk spray yet.

Some Israeli company invented this stuff years ago to break up Palestinian riots.

It's totally harmless, but smells soo bad it makes the protesters wretch.

I would really really like to see this deployed in Portland or Seattle or Chicago.. it would be fun to watch!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2020 12:54 PM (CjFDo)

275 Who the fuck is this Herzog guy?
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 25, 2020 12:44 PM (rWZ8Y)

Don't look at me. I thought he coached the Rangers, Angels, Royals, and Cardinals.

Posted by: CyberCipher at July 25, 2020 12:55 PM (++/pX)

276

Where are all da Antifa Twinks at?

Posted by: Rico Swabby at July 25, 2020 12:55 PM (d6DSt)

277 JS, PDT is going to win more States than last time, and it will be glorious.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 12:56 PM (fU1ci)

278 I would really really like to see this deployed in Portland or Seattle or Chicago.. it would be fun to watch!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2020 12:54 PM (CjFDo)

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"Trump Gasses Protesters!"

Posted by: SMH at July 25, 2020 12:56 PM (RU4sa)

279 Herzog's Cave of Forgotten Dreams is really good. The last ten minutes or so are really weird though - he goes off on a tangent about white alligators. The rest of it is about a stone age dwelling cave that was sealed by a landslide for 20.000 years.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos (meh, it's a living) at July 25, 2020 12:56 PM (3DZIZ)

280 They are desperate and it's only going to get more shrill until election day.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 12:51 PM (ZLI7S)

Agree 100%.

My guess: after the election, we're going to experience a spasm of domestic terrorism ("direct action," as the Reds like to call it) as their frustration level boils over.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 12:57 PM (4eDGJ)

281 They are desperate and it's only going to get more shrill until election day.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 12:51 PM (ZLI7S)

The meltdowns will be glorious. I hope the suicide hotline people take the week off.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 12:57 PM (y7DUB)

282 Herzog once shat on the Holy Tabernacle of Outer Nepal and remarked "I have one more grape in there."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 25, 2020 12:58 PM (ysmsf)

283 The DemonRats, being the Satanic Marxist shit-eating filth that they are, play a very long game and they play it on every single front simultaneously.

Prepare for war, for war is coming for us though we desperately want peace. They seek complete control and they are making their move now.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 25, 2020 12:58 PM (Qio/u)

284 I can't figure out why police/feds have not deployed the Israeli skunk spray yet.

Some Israeli company invented this stuff years ago to break up Palestinian riots.

It's totally harmless, but smells soo bad it makes the protesters wretch.

I would really really like to see this deployed in Portland or Seattle or Chicago.. it would be fun to watch!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2020 12:54 PM (CjFDo)

After patchouli oil, they'd probably think it was cologne.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 12:59 PM (4eDGJ)

285 My guess: after the election, we're going to experience a spasm of domestic terrorism ("direct action," as the Reds like to call it) as their frustration level boils over.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 12:57 PM (4eDGJ)

They told us verbatim that they would do this.

Technically, they said we'd be the ones doing it, but you can tell what they're thinking by what they ascribe to others.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 25, 2020 12:59 PM (t+qrx)

286 criminals, looters, murderers felons, arsonists, gang members and illegals. Oh and black people.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 12:46 PM (4eDGJ)
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I fully expect our property taxes are going up a substantial amount this next year.

Yay, CA.

And, I'm pretty sure our property taxes are relatively mild compared to a lot of CA.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 25, 2020 12:59 PM (WEBkv)

287 Big plus+++. Have to wonder, though, if the state isn't in the cross-hairs to flip it blue.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 12:51 PM (LGXGf)

Commies are trying to flip everything blue.

Go to TN and fight the flip.

Posted by: HiHo at July 25, 2020 12:59 PM (gsaS2)

288 There are two places to go.
1. Blue places
2. Places fighting the blue

Posted by: HiHo at July 25, 2020 01:00 PM (gsaS2)

289 for New Orleans (20 years ago, 60+% black), being right in the city meant double rates for insurance, car and health. They could not discriminate on race of course, but they could on whether one lived in the city, or right across the line in Metairie. Moving to rural IL, my rates for both were cut in half ... till Obamacare "fixed" that.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2020 01:00 PM (Cus5s)

290 I don't think Whitey ever went to Nepal. Must've been the other guy.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2020 01:00 PM (RuIsu)

291 I fully expect our property taxes are going up a substantial amount this next year.

Yay, CA.

And, I'm pretty sure our property taxes are relatively mild compared to a lot of CA.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 25, 2020 12:59 PM (WEBkv)

Prop. 13 limits how much they can go up (to 1%/year, IIRC). For now, at least.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:01 PM (4eDGJ)

292 Here's a typical argument from that "conservative case" for yet again giving in to the left, this time by razing suburbs in favor of urban sprawl:

"There is a net transfer of transportation dollars from blue states to red states, from big cities to suburbs..."

Well no f*cking sh*t, Einstein. That's because that's where the major highways are -- in the hinterlands.

And those expensive roads are used to implement a huge net transfer of food, out of the hinterlands, and into those big cities. And an equally huge net transfer of refuse and human waste out of those cities and into the landfills in the hinterlands.

God forbid that those big cities converting all that food into sh*t should pay for some of that transportation.

Go f*ck yourself, Charles Marohn.

Posted by: Pastafarian at July 25, 2020 01:01 PM (sgHEm)

293 When we moved to our suburb in 1978, it had maybe 20,000. Forty years later, we were up to 150,000.
We were the 26th most populous city in TX.

When we go back to see family, I can feel the psychic pressure of all those people living in close proximity.
Not good.

Posted by: Sal at July 25, 2020 01:01 PM (bo8pf)

294 >>My guess: after the election, we're going to experience a spasm of domestic terrorism ("direct action," as the Reds like to call it) as their frustration level boils over.

I suspect you're correct. I think a Trump emboldened by re-election and not having to worry about campaigning ever again will have more "flexibility".

What are they going to do, impeach him?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)

295 Prop. 13 limits how much they can go up (to 1%/year, IIRC). For now, at least.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:01 PM (4eDGJ)
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They'll slap a temporary surcharge of some sort, find out it was illegal, oops, and offer a credit for next year.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 25, 2020 01:01 PM (WEBkv)

296 for New Orleans (20 years ago, 60+% black), being right in the city meant double rates for insurance, car and health. They could not discriminate on race of course, but they could on whether one lived in the city, or right across the line in Metairie.

I doubt it was racial. It was probably based on actuarial calculations.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:02 PM (4eDGJ)

297 FYI-Keep a close eye on this in your local jurisdiction. Zoning codes often allow for special exceptions/conditional uses after review by a board of adjustment.

Posted by: Drewbicle at July 25, 2020 01:02 PM (6hnye)

298 Quick: what's your favorite Herzog out-take?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 25, 2020 01:02 PM (ysmsf)

299 They'll slap a temporary surcharge of some sort, find out it was illegal, oops, and offer a credit for next year.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 25, 2020 01:01 PM (WEBkv)

I worry about that, too. I can see a "community charge" or a "parcel tax" coming, each tied to the value of a property. Totally different from a property tax, of course.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:03 PM (4eDGJ)

300 "Residential Mixed Use". It's the Big Idea in property development today. Retail/restaurant* on street level, condos/apartments above. These are usually 4-5 stories, and are popping up like mushrooms everywhere. Just built one in my community. They were trying to develop a high density apartment community, but believe it or not, the locals pushed back and won. For now anyway.
*These shops and restaurants have an insanely high failure rate.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 25, 2020 11:39 AM (7Fj9P)

Chesterfield Mall is next line for this.

Posted by: Chico Escuela: Vidas Negras Cuentan at July 25, 2020 01:04 PM (ej32T)

301 Any ideas if Trump's EO on RX stands? I wonder if drug companies try a class-action or something.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 25, 2020 01:04 PM (7Fj9P)

302 These plants produce seeds with a tough coating that can lay dormant, awaiting a fire, for several years."
Posted by: IrishEi

That makes them a bit less dangerous as "invasive species" though, when it's one generation per wildfire.

Except maybe in California.

Posted by: mikeski at July 25, 2020 01:04 PM (P1f+c)

303 JS, should be in Chicago tonight for a 2nd night at Wrigley. Fenway would have been next weekend.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 01:04 PM (fU1ci)

304 Over at humanevents there's an article written by a dickhead who finally saw the light and moved out of Washington DC.

He makes a couple of good points, but still's a dickhead.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2020 01:05 PM (3H9h1)

305 I'm thinking now to first week of November Leftists will continue ramping up the violence, Trump wins it will go double the first few weeks after until it is stopped.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 01:05 PM (6f16T)

306 I did the Fenway show 4 years ago, Charlie. We had a great time.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 01:06 PM (ZLI7S)

307 the trick in texas is property taxes are limited, but the evaluation is not. evaluations go up 20%. guess what.

Posted by: projection on steroids at July 25, 2020 01:06 PM (V9NdA)

308 Chesterfield Mall is next line for this.
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Yup. We went to see Ford v Ferrari there before the shutdown. God that place was dismal. The Galleria will be headed that way too, esp. since they can't keep the wraps on all the violence that goes down there.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 25, 2020 01:06 PM (7Fj9P)

309
I worry about that, too. I can see a "community charge" or a "parcel tax" coming, each tied to the value of a property. Totally different from a property tax, of course.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:03 PM (4eDGJ)
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Yeah, homeowners are going to get tagged this year, because Nuisance crushed business tax receipts.

It still boggles my mind politicians hate President Trump so much, they are willing to burn down their own states, just in the hope of getting President Trump out of office.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 25, 2020 01:07 PM (WEBkv)

310 Herzog is known for his needlepoint. It often includes angels, lilies, and Gargamel - yes, the cartoon villain.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 25, 2020 01:07 PM (ysmsf)

311 305 I'm thinking now to first week of November Leftists will continue ramping up the violence, Trump wins it will go double the first few weeks after until it is stopped.
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 01:05 PM (6f16T)

The Democrats have already issued preemptive accusations of cheating against Trump.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 25, 2020 01:08 PM (lgiXo)

312 Well I wouldn't be the first to say it but it's part of the UN agenda's guidelines: increase population densification with the goal of reducing consumption.The land-zoning "interventionist" do-gooder commies all want to do this anyway - the UN agendas don't exist in a vacuum, the agendas exist because city planners all over organize to contribute and develop guidelines that the UN publishes.
This snake has many, many heads. Hundreds if not thousands.
The "conservative" case for removing single-family zoning is closer to the libertarian case, but called conservative to get suckers to support it. When I buy land in an area zoned for agriculture and single-dwelling-only, not subdivisible, I want it that way. I don't want developrs to be able to subdivide farmland and jam in new developments and add 50 neighbours to the area.

Posted by: fb at July 25, 2020 01:08 PM (6ESMG)

313 Same. They had Donna Jean that summer.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 01:08 PM (fU1ci)

314 Old dude,

From what I've read, Johnson City has captured most of the development in that area. Bristol and Kingsport are losing population. City-data.com has some good forums, where this is discussed. I won't need to work so am considering Mountain City.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2020 01:09 PM (YynYJ)

315 I don't want developrs to be able to subdivide farmland and jam in new developments and add 50 neighbours to the area.
Posted by: fb at July 25, 2020 01:08 PM (6ESMG)
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So, a farmer should just continue to farm until he drops, rather than retire and live off the proceeds of sale of his farm?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 25, 2020 01:10 PM (WEBkv)

316 This has received virtually no coverage in the media including the so called conservative media. And the GOP has been silent as well.

Several cities have already banned single family zoning. The next logical step for the left is to ban in nationwide and it will happen since there is no opposition from the GOP. Get ready to say hello to your Section 8 neighbors in the not to distant future.....

Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:10 PM (3Fd9m)

317 What are they going to do, impeach him?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)

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All they have left is double secret probation.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 01:10 PM (wPVhA)

318 Herzog is a German writer-director. The only thing I've seen by him is Aguirre: The Wrath of God, which is pure madness but a good film.

"There's meat floating down the river!"

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2020 01:10 PM (yQpMk)

319 308 Chesterfield Mall is next line for this.
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Yup. We went to see Ford v Ferrari there before the shutdown. God that place was dismal. The Galleria will be headed that way too, esp. since they can't keep the wraps on all the violence that goes down there.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 25, 2020 01:06 PM (7Fj9P)

I'm sorry to hear this. Chesterfield Mall used to be quite nice. And violence around the Galleria? Yow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:11 PM (4eDGJ)

320 Just what I want is to be stuffed back into an apartment complex so I can get my exercise by bending over to pick up the pictures my door-slammy neighbor knocked off the wall.

Posted by: Marooned at July 25, 2020 01:11 PM (yYptV)

321 As with education - what's broken, what's being fixed? (WRT the suburb/planning issue)

Oh, right.

Nothing that requires any changes of the sort being proposed.

How did things work, generally, for decades? Pretty well.

How did education (K - 4yr college) work, up until the time all the "improvements" started? Very well, and much much better than after.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:11 PM (OTzUX)

322 Several cities have already banned single family zoning. The next logical step for the left is to ban in nationwide and it will happen since there is no opposition from the GOP. Get ready to say hello to your Section 8 neighbors in the not to distant future.....
Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:10 PM (3Fd9m)

The Reds don't need Viagra. They just ban something, and voila!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:12 PM (4eDGJ)

323 268
... On balance Tennessee, with it's no state income tax still seems very appealing. Cities I've investigated vote overwhelmingly Republican--so no democrat lunatics. Big plus+++. Have to wonder, though, if the state isn't in the cross-hairs to flip it blue.
Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 12:51 PM (LGXGf)

There are lots of places I've looked at, but they all have their negatives: too hot, too cold, too humid, taxes too high (ain't no such thing as "taxes too low"), too darn many people, or too crazy blue.
I have decided that western SD has everything I want/need: good hunting, good fishing, Cabelas, the great outdoors, 4 seasons, no income tax, and not too darn many people.
I don't think we'll be going blue any time soon.

Posted by: ChuckALuck at July 25, 2020 01:13 PM (tkm0U)

324 "I doubt it was racial. It was probably based on actuarial calculations." Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

same difference. real numbers reveal racial "disparities". It was estimated half the NOLA blacks didn't carry auto insurance ... guy that pulled in front of me had a fake insurance card. But they never checked drivers in NOLA .... they did outside the city.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2020 01:13 PM (Cus5s)

325 California has a bill that would have banned single family zoning statewide. It was pulled but will probably be back again next year.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:14 PM (3Fd9m)

326 We were next to some John Mayer fans who didn't know anything about GD and who got on the bus.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 01:14 PM (fU1ci)

327 Anyone here who knows people who are on the fence, please show them this info. It will make a difference!

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2020 01:14 PM (DJFLF)

328 Levitt the biologist has made his call - herd-immunity threshold of around 20%, epidemic over in 4 weeks*, US total fatalities around 170K.

He actually doesn't get into disentangling cause-of-death problems - not just the ridiculous data pollution, like gunshot victims counting in the totals, but the much broader "with C19" or multi-cause case category. If that were disaggregated (it will be, by someone), we can view fatalities in a much more meaningful way.

* by CDC definition things are below epidemic level in most of the country already, "hot spots" shifting around regionally

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:15 PM (OTzUX)

329 This place is nice for the burbs. The yard is big. They had a fire in 2006, so most of it was rebuilt in 2006. The second wife and her first husband bought it new in the 70s. The mortgage was paid off and it wasn't refinanced. But the property taxes are awful. The neighborhood is devolving to rentals. Guy across the street lives in a big 5th wheel out back, rents the upstairs and downstairs out to different families. But still a safe place for now.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2020 01:15 PM (YynYJ)

330 same difference. real numbers reveal racial "disparities". It was estimated half the NOLA blacks didn't carry auto insurance ... guy that pulled in front of me had a fake insurance card. But they never checked drivers in NOLA .... they did outside the city.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2020 01:13 PM (Cus5s)

This is a real problem: malfeasance of all sorts tends to correlate with demographics, so any attempt to mitigate such malfeasance can be opposed as being racial.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:15 PM (4eDGJ)

331 "You enjoying a little time at home today?"----------

Stir crazy comes to mind. When I worked I tried to work at home but just couldn't. Our office was "shut down" by the company for 6 months after Katrina. The building was still open though. My boss and I would sneak in daily to work. Soon as this storm passes I'm going for a long drive, somewhere.

Posted by: Javems at July 25, 2020 01:15 PM (F3TDN)

332 I'm sorry to hear this. Chesterfield Mall used to be quite nice. And violence around the Galleria? Yow.
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They dropped in a Metrolink station close to the Galleria. I actually worked out there years ago, and it was very nice. Now packs of thugs roam the isles; a HS prep student was blinded when she was attacked and punched in the face with a set of keys, by an "urban" youth. Two people were shot there this week. The $$'s they pour into security must be insane.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 25, 2020 01:16 PM (7Fj9P)

333 320 Just what I want is to be stuffed back into an apartment complex so I can get my exercise by bending over to pick up the pictures my door-slammy neighbor knocked off the wall.
Posted by: Marooned at July 25, 2020 01:11 PM (yYptV)

PUMP UP THA VOLUME MAN!! IT'S ONLY 2:00AM! DIG THAT MEGA BASS OR ELSE, RACIST!!

Posted by: Dindu Nuffin, turninmah life aroun at July 25, 2020 01:16 PM (jo3Jw)

334 From what I've read, Johnson City has captured most
of the development in that area. Bristol and Kingsport are losing
population. City-data.com has some good forums, where this is discussed.
I won't need to work so am considering Mountain City.Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2020 01:09 PM (YynYJ)***
Thank you for the 411. That would help to explain the foreclosure blip.I have found the City Data website to be invaluable. The FIRST thing I do is check out how the population has voted in the past. If I do get out of Indian Country, I'll be d*mned if I'll voluntarily move to another blue anything---state, county or city.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 01:16 PM (LGXGf)

335 In my experience no states really have low taxes. They just tax differently. I live in a supposed low tax state. But that because no 1 tax is crazy high. But all taxes are medium to biggish. So on balance it is a lot of tax but people dont freak out over it. Kind of boiled from thing.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:16 PM (3Fd9m)

336 @271, Count de Monet, "omball, being in Harris County, has been urban assimilated. Magnolia
[Montgomery County] is the new outpost of surburbia going north, Hockley
to the NNW."
True dat.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at July 25, 2020 01:16 PM (cCxiu)

337 Everything these socialist democrats proposed is pure poppycock.

Posted by: Fritz at July 25, 2020 01:17 PM (UUm1c)

338 Raining at the Three Gorges

https://bit.ly/3eTP4ys

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2020 01:18 PM (yQpMk)

339 325 California has a bill that would have banned single family zoning statewide. It was pulled but will probably be back again next year.
Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:14 PM (3Fd9m)

They also had a proposal to impose an 10% exit tax ("ransom" is such an ugly word) on people who sold a house in California and didn't buy another one.

It didn't pass, it didn't even come to a vote, but it shows how they're thinking in the legislature.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:18 PM (4eDGJ)

340 You've heard of the "Ant Feces Dilema," right?

Classic Herzog.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 25, 2020 01:18 PM (ysmsf)

341 Will the Democrats ever get deranged and evil enough to convince the neverTrumpers to back off their commitment to them?
Or do they think the Dems are lying about their demonic commitments?
Or are they actually demonic as well?
Posted by: Northernlurker

At least now we know without a doubt that they were never conservatives. They are and were always progressive liberals wearing conservative costumes.

Posted by: idlan at July 25, 2020 01:18 PM (MxwDr)

342 Chesterfield Mall has the electronics shop. I was going out there today, too hot. Not sure if anything else is there at all.

Posted by: klaftern at July 25, 2020 01:18 PM (RuIsu)

343 Old dude,

Hancock county. If I can find a place there, it's in the running. You can do what you want on your land. It's never going to turn blue. No work though.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2020 01:18 PM (YynYJ)

344 In my experience no states really have low taxes. They just tax differently. I live in a supposed low tax state. But that because no 1 tax is crazy high. But all taxes are medium to biggish. So on balance it is a lot of tax but people dont freak out over it. Kind of boiled from thing.
Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:16 PM (3Fd9m)
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Yeah, but states with no income tax normally make up the revenue through consumption taxes. Which is actually fair, because one can avoid consumption taxes through not consuming, or, consuming at a very low level.

Income taxes really cannot be avoided.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 25, 2020 01:19 PM (WEBkv)

345 Only way to avoid this shit is move to the sticks far enough away from public transportation. Look where the subway line ends and go 15 miles away from that.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:19 PM (3Fd9m)

346 338 Raining at the Three Gorges

https://bit.ly/3eTP4ys
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2020 01:18 PM (yQpMk)

Wow. And not half-raining, either.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:20 PM (4eDGJ)

347 Who the fuck is this Herzog guy?

Whitey's brother.

Posted by: JT at July 25, 2020 01:21 PM (arJlL)

348 344

Yeah also depends what phase of life youre in. High income taxes for retirees matters less than for someone in their prime earning years.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:21 PM (3Fd9m)

349 I live in a square mile neighborhood within a south FL large county. Single family homes sit on large lots by South Florida standards. Lots of oaks and mature vegetation. It truly does not feel as if we are within a large metro area. I have lived here for the last 19 years. In the last 4 to 5 years there has been a tremendous push by developers who buy homes that need work but are in a large lot. These homes are smack in the center of all single family homes neighborhoods. Then they consistently try to stealthily rezone it to build townhouses. Fortunately many of the neighbors are very aware and active. Every single effort by developers has failed. It has taken several hearings in which large numbers of neighbors show up to defeat every single effort by these bastards. Mind you, we dont have an HOA and most people here are busy dual income families. Only way to afford a house in here nowadays. Interesting that Nextdoor has been the tool used to alert the neighbors to these situations and hearings dates location etc.

Posted by: Floridachick at July 25, 2020 01:21 PM (yYfRx)

350 I would rather pay a couple hundred a year tor property taxes than several thousand a year. Mostly, I'm tired of living where you need a building permit to replace the vapor barrier under the house.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2020 01:21 PM (YynYJ)

351 What does the monopoly of the Democrats in California fear putting out any bill they want?

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 01:22 PM (6f16T)

352 Yeah, but states with no income tax normally make up the revenue through consumption taxes. Which is actually fair, because one can avoid consumption taxes through not consuming, or, consuming at a very low level.

Income taxes really cannot be avoided.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 25, 2020 01:19 PM (WEBkv)

Sales taxes have a certain justice, as everybody pays. Yeah, I know, leftists howl that they're regressive and unfair, but how fair is it to have half of the population not pay any income tax?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:22 PM (4eDGJ)

353 Part of the left war on suburbs is also bullshit like requiring low income people to buy houses at a discount in new developments. And there is. I way to know who that is until you move in and find out your neighbor is on welfare and got the house for 1/3 of what you paid.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:23 PM (3Fd9m)

354 351 What does the monopoly of the Democrats in California fear putting out any bill they want?
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 01:22 PM (6f16T)

Good question. My guess: they don't want to trigger wholesale massive fleeing by the people they're planning on fleecing. Then they'd just be stuck with our Third World friends, and they're broke.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:23 PM (4eDGJ)

355 DeKalb County here requires a low flow toilet certification for water service.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 01:24 PM (fU1ci)

356 I way to know who that is until you move in and find out your neighbor is on welfare and got the house for 1/3 of what you paid.
Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:23 PM (3Fd9m)

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But you get the warm feeling of knowing that you subsidized your no-account neighbor's house by paying an inflated price on yours.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 01:26 PM (wPVhA)

357 Only way to avoid this shit is move to the sticks
far enough away from public transportation. Look where the subway [or bus] line
ends and go 15 25 miles away from that.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:19 PM (3Fd9m)

Fixed for Harris County.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2020 01:27 PM (q1Pj5)

358 In my county there is a rule that for every single family built in a development there has to be a corresponding amount of apartments. I dont know the exact ration but basically every new development ha to have an apartment complex as well as single family homes.

This wasnt cuz Obama or Democrats. It was because developers run the city council and write their own rules. Apartments are much more profitable than single homes.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:27 PM (3Fd9m)

359 The big factor in state/municipal revenue collapse is the lockdown, overall, much more so than the urban festivities. Of course a federal bail-out is the desired solution, and very difficult to believe it won't happen. Where in the Beltway is the will or wisdom to prevent it?

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:27 PM (OTzUX)

360 Part of the left war on suburbs is also bullshit like requiring low income people to buy houses at a discount in new developments. And there is. I way to know who that is until you move in and find out your neighbor is on welfare and got the house for 1/3 of what you paid.
Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:23 PM (3Fd9m)

Part of the left's psychpathology is the notion that middle class trappings make middle class citizens, so if they just give stuff to the underclass , they'll magically become middle class. In fact, they'll be underclass people temporarily with some middle class trappings (see, e.g., the subprime mortgage fiasco).

For my part, I want a Yankees jersey, because I figure that with that I'll enter the Yankees' starting rotation

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:27 PM (4eDGJ)

361 If you like documentary/biography watch "Little Deiter Needs to Fly" directed by Werner Herzog.
The story of Deiter Dengler, US Navy aviator, decorated vet, POW in Viet Nam.
I promise you you will not have a dry eye.

Posted by: navybrat has a day off at July 25, 2020 01:28 PM (w7KSn)

362 @Notsothoreau. Again, Thank you. I will check out Hancock county, for sure. Being retired, work isn't an issue. Access to good healthcare might become one, but fortunately my bp is controlled. Should, God forbid. the dems ever get another bite at the nationalized healthcare apple, I'm sure regardless of where you live, one will just be denied expensive treatments and nature will be helped in taking its inevitable course. Or, worse, The Cuomo Method of geriatrics may be increasingly utilized.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 01:28 PM (LGXGf)

363 Part of the left's psychpathology is the notion that middle class trappings make middle class citizens, so if they just give stuff to the underclass , they'll magically become middle class.

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It's classic cargo cult reasoning.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 01:29 PM (wPVhA)

364 I think the AFFH exists in small doses today. All new homes seem to be three-story, no yard, no elevators, and possibly a "work" area on the first floor so you can do your job and not take out your dastardly automobile.
There is sometimes a grassy square nearby, where all the comrades can get some exercise and sing hymns to Dear Leader together.

Posted by: PJ at July 25, 2020 01:31 PM (qlTN9)

365 Not sure what I expect after the election, but think widespread festivities unlikely. Probably more of a stunned silence for the most part, with "hot spots" of the usual idiocy. But - the most likely places for this have reached a sort of "herd immunity", they've been boiling and burning for a few months already.

Even the mass hysteria of St Floyd only lasted for a bit, even if it infested a stunning # of otherwise not idiotic young people. It's pretty much burnt out.

Places like NYC, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, have chosen their own varied downward trajectories, that'll continue, but I don't see Trump's re-election affecting it directly in the short term.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:32 PM (OTzUX)

366 A total of 3 movies were made based on the service of Deiter Dengler.
He is buried at Arlington.

Posted by: navybrat has a day off at July 25, 2020 01:32 PM (w7KSn)

367 For my part, I want a Yankees jersey, because I figure that with that I'll enter the Yankees' starting rotation
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:27 PM (4eDGJ)

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HUD should distribute white coats to low income people so they can all be cardiologists.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 01:34 PM (wPVhA)

368 Jay make sure there's a snazzy "BLM" logo on that Yankees jersey.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:35 PM (OTzUX)

369 Just made it back to covered slip at house before the sky deluged us. My company is quite impressed with my Wx prowess.

They're inside eating and emptying bladders. Round 2 of 'tooning starts in 30 mins. Must replenish coolers.

Posted by: olddog in mo, on the dumb phone at July 25, 2020 01:35 PM (iWcOl)

370 Willie: Lefty's dead

Major: Lefty? I can't believe it, What was it, his heart?

Willie: His feet. He couldn't out run the bullet .

Posted by: Ben Had at July 25, 2020 01:36 PM (u08BD)

371 DeKalb Co also had an emergency moratorium on buildIng "McMansions" because seniors were being forced out of their homes due to the property taxes they were exempted from.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 01:37 PM (fU1ci)

372 WNBA teams walk out of arena as national anthem is played.

New bar being set? Maybe kneeling isn't enough?

NBA will probably have to actually burn a flag during the anthem to stay ahead. Baseball has caught/surpassed them, and NFL will surely be swinging for the fences.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:38 PM (OTzUX)

373
I way to know who that is until you move in and find out your neighbor is on welfare and got the house for 1/3 of what you paid.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:23 PM (3Fd9m)

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But you get the warm feeling of knowing that you subsidized your
no-account neighbor's house by paying an inflated price on yours.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 01:26 PM (wPVhA)

Then these very same neighbors are on NextDoor blegging for free furniture, lawnmowers, ladders, children's clothes and toys, lawn tools, infant car seats, car repairs, etc. And the suburban wine moms, so eager to virtue signal their helpfulness, organize and rally to help out.
Eventually, they do tire of the unending and escalating blegs and stop responding. Eventually.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2020 01:38 PM (q1Pj5)

374 Next Door is something else.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 01:40 PM (fU1ci)

375 WNBA teams walk out of arena as national anthem is played.

Lesbian date night will never be the same.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 01:42 PM (y7DUB)

376 WNBA teams walk out of arena as national anthem is played.

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Disappointing tens of fans.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 01:43 PM (wPVhA)

377 Yeah, but thought about your carbon footprint driving the rural backroads to get to a Walmart? You want to kill gramma and grampa, don't you!
Posted by: socalcon at July 25, 2020 11:30

Yeah, but I am grampa. I don't shop at Wally's World. I heat with wood and burn my paper garbage, but I'd wager my carbon footprint would fit inside most eco freaked city slickers with room to spare

Posted by: Sock Monkey...still entertaining to children and squirrels at July 25, 2020 01:43 PM (sSXWf)

378
Next Door is something else.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 01:40 PM (fU1ci)^^^
Next Door? Like twitter, facebook, and other related social communitizing is something else of which I am blissfully unaware. It shall remain so.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 01:44 PM (LGXGf)

379 4 I see this starting in our town
Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:24 AM

You live in MI, right? I don't see it.

Posted by: clutch at July 25, 2020 01:44 PM (9UmRs)

380 *waves to Ben Had from the 'toon*

Posted by: olddog in mo, on the dumb phone at July 25, 2020 01:45 PM (iWcOl)

381 WNBA teams walk out of arena as national anthem is played.

See you next Tuesday, adieu!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2020 01:45 PM (q1Pj5)

382 WNBA teams walk out of arena as national anthem is played.

New bar being set? Maybe kneeling isn't enough?

NBA will probably have to actually burn a flag during the anthem to stay ahead. Baseball has caught/surpassed them, and NFL will surely be swinging for the fences.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:38 PM (OTzUX)

You're sure that wasn't the audience walking out?

I'm SO disappointed in MLB for caving to this crap. The NBA and NFL, sure. Totally expected. But I'd hoped that MLB was resist the pressure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:47 PM (4eDGJ)

383 Saw some pic of two Dodger players STANDING for the anthem, WITH HATS OVER THEIR HEARTS.

But it's OK - they also had their other hands on the shoulder of a black player kneeling in between them, and were looking down in the "moment of silence" mode, grim-faced.

What a pathetic country.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:48 PM (OTzUX)

384 It is linked to Ring, I think.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 01:48 PM (fU1ci)

385 If you like documentary/biography watch "Little Deiter Needs to Fly" directed by Werner Herzog.
The story of Deiter Dengler, US Navy aviator, decorated vet, POW in Viet Nam.
I promise you you will not have a dry eye.

Also the subject of Herzog's "Rescue Dawn".

The thing I love about him is his approach to special effects. How do I make it look as if Christian Bale is being carried by a raging river that's about to drown him? I know, I'll throw him in a raging river, I'll float next to him in an inner tube with a camera and take pictures to see if he drowns.

In Aguirre he created the effect of having a bunch of disgruntled soldiers carry a boat up a mountain by making his actors carry a boat up a mountain.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 25, 2020 01:49 PM (gd9RK)

386 olddog, happy 'toon-ing

Please have a beverage for me.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 25, 2020 01:49 PM (u08BD)

387 My theory is here with all the permit crap is if they don't know and have no way of knowing what they don't know won't hurt me.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 01:50 PM (6f16T)

388 But it's OK - they also had their other hands on the shoulder of a black player kneeling in between them, and were looking down in the "moment of silence" mode, grim-faced.

Holding the black man down!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:50 PM (4eDGJ)

389 WNBA teams walk out of arena as national anthem is played.

Fook sportsball, all of them, with a poorly crafted genital substitute that leaves splinters. I have gone full circle from being an enthusiastic fan to waiting for the day sports become just a game to be played by kids.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...still entertaining to children and squirrels at July 25, 2020 01:51 PM (sSXWf)

390 Thanks, Ben Had. Matter of fact think I'll enjoy several beverages for you. Cheers.

Posted by: olddog in mo, on the dumb phone at July 25, 2020 01:52 PM (iWcOl)

391 WNBA teams walk out of arena as national anthem is played.

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One can't help but note that they have no problem converting their checks into American dollars.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 01:52 PM (TX63G)

392 Funny as hell watching Democrats pretend to be concerned about the source of Steele's fake dossier being exposed saying he could face retaliation from Russia when the guy is living in Washington, D.C. and he's of Ukrainian heritage not Russian.

Putin must be laughing his ass off.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2020 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

393

Lesbian Traitors.

Posted by: Rico Swabby at July 25, 2020 01:53 PM (d6DSt)

394 A buddy of mine lived in 'the country', but the local town annexed a bunch of houses, and he just barely fell within the new city limits.

His property taxes doubled overnight. Then they insist that you hook up to city water and sewer, can't fire a gun on your property any more, etc and so on. He and his wife went from marginally making ends meet to in debt and needing to go back to part time work. Thanks, local gubmint.

My two rules for a place to live is outside any city limits, and no HOA. Having a few acres is nice too.

And the way the big cities are emptying out, a lot of people are beginning to agree with me.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2020 01:53 PM (Z4rgH)

395 Seattle police chief sends letter to local businesses/residents advising police cannot protect property from a "large, violent crowd" due to restrictions on their tools and policies.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:53 PM (OTzUX)

396 Also I sort of love that life in America is awesome enough that minority women can earn a GREAT living playing sports that no one watches, and yet they'll still walk out in protest of the country and what it represents.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 01:54 PM (TX63G)

397 WNBA teams walk out of arena as national anthem is played.

To the standing ovation of tens of fans!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 25, 2020 01:54 PM (MVR7y)

398 I have gone full circle from being an enthusiastic fan to waiting for the day sports become just a game to be played by kids.
Posted by: Sock Monkey...still entertaining to children and squirrels at July 25, 2020 01:51 PM (sSXWf)

And the erstwhile professional athletes can return to their natural metier, toll booth attendants, welfare recipients, drug slingers standing on street corners.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:54 PM (4eDGJ)

399 Prager wondered if someone will start the
No Politics Football League

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 01:55 PM (6f16T)

400 And the erstwhile professional athletes can return to their natural metier, toll booth attendants, welfare recipients, drug slingers standing on street corners.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:54 PM (4eDGJ)

Also, those jobs at the DMV aren't going to fill themselves.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 01:57 PM (wPVhA)

401 Watched football though with decreasing interest for 50 years, doubt it will be 51.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 01:57 PM (6f16T)

402 Hockey starts this week. Bettman will find a way to fuck that chicken.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 25, 2020 01:58 PM (9V5Ko)

403 If unable to dance, I'll crawl across it

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 01:59 PM (fU1ci)

404 395 Seattle police chief sends letter to local businesses/residents advising police cannot protect property from a "large, violent crowd" due to restrictions on their tools and policies.

Mr. Colt, Smith, Wesson, Ruger step up...

Posted by: Rico Swabby at July 25, 2020 01:59 PM (d6DSt)

405 Seattle police chief sends letter to local
businesses/residents advising police cannot protect property from a
"large, violent crowd" due to restrictions on their tools and policies.Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:53 PM (OTzUX)***
Wunderbar!!! More tax dollars paid for absolutely nothing. Same as parasitic teachers on Wuhan paid leave and now saying they ain't going back before socialist wet dream agenda is enacted. You gotta contract. You don't won't to work, then you quit.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 02:00 PM (LGXGf)

406 401 Watched football though with decreasing interest for 50 years, doubt it will be 51.
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 01:57 PM (6f16T)

The NFL began putting me off years ago when various hood rats used to re-enact the dance scene from Zulu whenever they scored.

That, and the trash talking. Sportsmanship is apparently unknown in the ghetto. Kinda like calculus.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 02:00 PM (4eDGJ)

407 Did they still play?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 02:00 PM (fU1ci)

408 That, and the trash talking. Sportsmanship is apparently unknown in the ghetto. Kinda like calculus.

Calculus was stolen from black Africans by them Greek homos.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 02:01 PM (wPVhA)

409 California has a bill that would have banned single family zoning statewide. It was pulled but will probably be back again next year.
Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:14 PM (3Fd9m)

Not my hill to die on, but....

This would make it illegal to live by yourself on land you own.
That and growing some sort of food on land you own are fundamental human rights.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 02:01 PM (1g7ch)

410 This would make it illegal to live by yourself on land you own.
That and growing some sort of food on land you own are fundamental human rights.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 02:01 PM (1g7ch)

They got used to it in North Korea and so can you.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 02:03 PM (wPVhA)

411 So China admits to having 83,784 cases of the Lung AIDS overall.

Hmm.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2020 02:04 PM (yQpMk)

412 Have gone from watching every football I could long ago to last couple just Eagles to last year only what was convenient for me.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 02:04 PM (6f16T)

413 Prager wondered if someone will start the
No Politics Football League

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There was one that was started and abruptly went under recently that had a sh*tload of flags displayed all over the place. American Football League or something similar.

If they could've made it another few months they'd have SO many new viewers.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:04 PM (HEs3d)

414 Rick Monday would probably get suspended for life if that flag incident happened today.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 25, 2020 02:08 PM (lgiXo)

415 That, and the trash talking. Sportsmanship is apparently unknown in the ghetto. Kinda like calculus.

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Man, take that racist sh*t somewhere else. Ain't nobody need no father or family structure to learn basic social skills.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:08 PM (HEs3d)

416 Northernlurker, exactly what I was thinking. Suspended, shunned by fellow players, denounced by public figures.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 02:09 PM (OTzUX)

417 But it's OK - they also had their other hands on the shoulder of a black player kneeling in between them, and were looking down in the "moment of silence" mode, grim-faced.

Holding the black man down!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:50 PM (4eDGJ)

If they really cared that BLM they would buy him a ticket to Liberia, and a suitcase with new underwear to help him get a job when he gets there.

But that is they really cared.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 02:10 PM (1g7ch)

418 Lloyd Marcus, contributor at American Thinker, died of a heart attack yesterday. I enjoyed his pieces at that site.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 25, 2020 02:10 PM (9V5Ko)

419

FUCK the NFL, NBA, MLB and WNBA.

In the ass, dry, with a sideways pineapple wrapped in rusty barbed wire and and covered in the bloody shit of the San Fran AIDS Men's Chorus...

Posted by: Rico Swabby at July 25, 2020 02:10 PM (d6DSt)

420 418 Lloyd Marcus, contributor at American Thinker, died of a heart attack yesterday. I enjoyed his pieces at that site.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 25, 2020 02:10 PM (9V5Ko)

Oh no.

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 25, 2020 02:11 PM (lgiXo)

421 From a conservative or libertarian point of view it seems pretty reasonable to reject both federal interference and onerous local zoning laws. My suburban home is not in any incorporated city or township and the county largely stays out of the housing business except for building codes and (dare I say) very reasonable taxation. Our water and sewers are provided by private corporations and the electricity by an unsubsidized co-op. The roads are private and the zoning concerns are handled by the homeowners association that we joined when we bought the home. All largely voluntary small government free market relationships, surprisingly inexpensive and all with a short commute to a (albeit small) city center.

Posted by: PUE 206 at July 25, 2020 02:12 PM (D/SYi)

422 Speaking of, I didn't typed that jokingly. That's BLM's official position per their "what we believe" page on their website.

So far as grammar, if you haven't read some football (and I assume basketball) players' social media posts, go now and enjoy the tragedy.

Everything is phonetic, bruh.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:13 PM (HEs3d)

423 Seattle police chief sends letter to local
businesses/residents advising police cannot protect property from a
"large, violent crowd" due to restrictions on their tools and policies.Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 01:53 PM (OTzUX)

If they cannot then the should avoid large crowds altogether.

But they will still be there in case any of the 'normals' attempt self-help.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 02:13 PM (1g7ch)

424 Man, take that racist sh*t somewhere else. Ain't nobody need no father or family structure to learn basic social skills.
Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:08 PM (HEs3d)

We were in the dugout while the opposing team was taking pre-game infield when one guy (the weakest player on our team, natch) started talking trash to the other team.

I took him aside and told him to knock that crap off. Turns out another teammate also told him that.

End of problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 02:13 PM (4eDGJ)

425 Stephen King@StephenKing
I have started to see a lot of Trump signs in my little patch of America, and each one provokes the same surge of unreality. I think, "Really? After all the deaths, and all he's done to wreck the economy? REALLY?"

Of all the things Twitter has done, I marvel over the way it has released some folks' inner whiny bitch.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at July 25, 2020 02:13 PM (ZSK0i)

426 And Joe Rogan flees California for the more tax friendly confines of Texas.

https://tinyurl.com/yyozaw6l

Hope he remembers why he left every time he votes from now on.

Posted by: browndog at July 25, 2020 02:13 PM (BgMrQ)

427 Haven't watched much NHL in years, sometimes remember to see some of the playoffs (the approach of Flag Day always reminds me it's just about summer, and therefore time to look for hockey .....). At least they have the season back to where it should be - aren't they just going to play a truncated season?

What's really infuriating is not playing hockey for 4 months now. Longest break in years.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2020 02:14 PM (OTzUX)

428 Everything is phonetic, bruh.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:13 PM (HEs3d)***
And now endorsed by colleges and universities everywhere. Entropy, coming to a neighborhood near you.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 02:14 PM (LGXGf)

429 Really? After all the deaths, and all he's done to wreck the economy? REALLY?"

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Holy sh*t.

Could you imagine a GOOD economy?

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:15 PM (HEs3d)

430 And for the record, Trump has apparently saved over two million people in the US.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:16 PM (HEs3d)

431 WNBA teams walk out of arena as national anthem is played.

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One can't help but note that they have no problem converting their checks into American dollars.
Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 01:52 PM (TX63G)

Considering they're 100% subsidized by the NBA, this might be the patriarchy demanding submission.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 02:16 PM (y7DUB)

432 I wonder how of these kneeling athletes wouldn't be kneeling if the intimidation stopped?

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 25, 2020 02:17 PM (lgiXo)

433 428 Everything is phonetic, bruh.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:13 PM (HEs3d)***
And now endorsed by colleges and universities everywhere. Entropy, coming to a neighborhood near you.
Posted by: Old Dude at July 25, 2020 02:14 PM (LGXGf)

Thank, e.g., Steven Pinker for providing academic cover for that "everyone's language is adequate for his needs" rubbish.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 02:18 PM (4eDGJ)

434 Stephen King@StephenKing
I have started to see a lot of Trump signs in my little patch of America

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You know, I bet there's something you DON'T see a lot of in your little patch of America.

Not that it matters.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:18 PM (HEs3d)

435 Dr Sleep is not as bad as I thought it would be.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 02:18 PM (fU1ci)

436 346 338 Raining at the Three Gorges

https://bit.ly/3eTP4ys
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2020 01:18 PM (yQpMk)

Wow. And not half-raining, either.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 01:20 PM (4eDGJ)

Focus on upstream.

https://tinyurl.com/y5mx3eqa

Look to the NW of Chongqing (which is centered in the map).

Potential for three feet - THREE FEET - of rain in the next three days.

Posted by: browndog at July 25, 2020 02:19 PM (BgMrQ)

437 Romeo, bear and grump-
I'm also growing my hair long, have been since I broke my foot last April and couldn't get it cut. Wife said at your age you can unlike some of your friends so go for it. Wonder with the shutdown how many are going to hang on to the long hair.

Posted by: Farmer at July 25, 2020 02:19 PM (2iR4Q)

438 This shit where if I open my window and stick my head only to bang it on the wall of the house next door does not strike me as the ideal living environment.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (+dsLj)

I think it purely depends on the suburb. My grandparents lived in a subdivision that was laid down in the 50's. Ranch houses with big windows, big lots (my grandparents had a corner lot on the entrance to the subdivision -3/4 acre.) Big, wide streets.

In my memory, I remember riding my bike throughout that subdivision- it was perfect, low traffic, wide, easy streets where you could have a game of baseball, throw a frisbee, or roam around in groups of bikes racing each other. The only downside: no hills in the subdivision. The only one was at the entrance to the subdivision. However, the entrance had a huge long straightaway, with a dividing boulevard. Perfect for challenging some knob to a race.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:20 PM (A5zUN)

439

Kneeling just means you are ready to suck dick... somehow they don't seem to grasp that...

Posted by: Rico Swabby at July 25, 2020 02:20 PM (d6DSt)

440 437 Romeo, bear and grump-
I'm also growing my hair long, have been since I broke my foot last April and couldn't get it cut. Wife said at your age you can unlike some of your friends so go for it. Wonder with the shutdown how many are going to hang on to the long hair.
Posted by: Farmer at July 25, 2020 02:19 PM (2iR4Q)

I gave up the wilderness hermit look as soon as I got back to work.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:21 PM (A5zUN)

441 Get cash on hand for a big stock buying opportunity shortly.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:21 PM (3LBaY)

442 Potential for three feet - THREE FEET - of rain in the next three days.
Posted by: browndog at July 25, 2020 02:19 PM (BgMrQ)

The watercress crop is going to be huuuuge!

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 02:22 PM (1g7ch)

443 BT, you get some butter and bread, now you got a sandwich!

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 25, 2020 02:24 PM (fU1ci)

444 I way to know who that is until you move in and find out your neighbor is on welfare and got the house for 1/3 of what you paid.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 25, 2020 01:23 PM (3Fd9m)

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But you get the warm feeling of knowing that you subsidized your
no-account neighbor's house by paying an inflated price on yours.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 01:26 PM (wPVhA)

===
And you will subsidize them also with all the stolen things of yours that they sell. Soooo you got that going for you too.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 25, 2020 02:25 PM (pw+jk)

445 I wonder how of these kneeling athletes wouldn't be kneeling if the intimidation stopped?
Posted by: Northernlurker at July 25, 2020 02:17 PM (lgiXo)

Speaking of which, since the notoriously apolitical Michael Jordan, for which he's been criticized by Nike/ChiCom slave Lebron James, recently gave $100M to BLM, I wonder if Nike and the NBA threatened to officially leak the real reasons for his mid career baseball hiatus.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2020 02:26 PM (y7DUB)

446 I wonder how of these kneeling athletes wouldn't be kneeling if the intimidation stopped?

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I'd be happy just knowing how many can recite the first verse of the national anthem.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:27 PM (3LBaY)

447

It's not Straight if you don't swallow...

Posted by: WNBA Lesbian at July 25, 2020 02:28 PM (WNEAw)

448 Wonder with the shutdown how many are going to hang on to the long hair.

Posted by: Farmer at July 25, 2020 02:19 PM (2iR4Q)

I am. Going straight into my retirement hair.

So I trimmed my beard to 1/4" and shaved my neck today. I left the wild mustache for now. I could wax it if I wanted to.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2020 02:28 PM (yQpMk)

449 I've always understood kneeling to signify submission. That's why you kneel to pray.
What do these children not understand about that?
Mind you the guy who started the movement is dumb as a brick.

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 25, 2020 02:28 PM (lgiXo)

450 I way to know who that is until you move in and find out your neighbor is on welfare and got the house for 1/3 of what you paid.

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It would be trivially easy to know who, too, because it won't take more than six months for things to start looking like sh*t and junk washing machines being moved out to the front yard.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:29 PM (3LBaY)

451 81
That's why we are looking for acreage in north AZ.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob

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Too much snow (any snow is too much).

Not far enough North.

Posted by: boynseea at July 25, 2020 02:30 PM (Fks5r)

452 I read somewhere that a number of large corporations are buying up single family homes in the suburbs and renting them out at high rates.

Posted by: mercenary13 at July 25, 2020 02:30 PM (E2Rzh)

453 449 I've always understood kneeling to signify submission. That's why you kneel to pray.
What do these children not understand about that?
Mind you the guy who started the movement is dumb as a brick.
Posted by: Northernlurker at July 25, 2020 02:28 PM (lgiXo)

'Bend the knee'.

People are really fucking stupid. How soon before they 'Pass under the yoke' to show how united and strong they are? And free?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:30 PM (A5zUN)

454 449 I've always understood kneeling to signify submission. That's why you kneel to pray.
What do these children not understand about that?
Mind you the guy who started the movement is dumb as a brick.
Posted by: Northernlurker at July 25, 2020 02:28 PM (lgiXo)

'Bend the knee'.

People are really fucking stupid. How soon before they 'Pass under the yoke' to show how united and strong they are? And free?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:30 PM (A5zUN)

I marvel at the unseriousness and sheer stupidity of our society.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 25, 2020 02:33 PM (9V5Ko)

455 454 449 I've always understood kneeling to signify submission. That's why you kneel to pray.
What do these children not understand about that?
Mind you the guy who started the movement is dumb as a brick.
Posted by: Northernlurker at July 25, 2020 02:28 PM (lgiXo)

'Bend the knee'.

People are really fucking stupid. How soon before they 'Pass under the yoke' to show how united and strong they are? And free?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:30 PM (A5zUN)

I marvel at the unseriousness and sheer stupidity of our society.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 25, 2020 02:33 PM (9V5Ko)

"Kneel to the white man!"

That would put a stop to this in a big hurry.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 02:35 PM (4eDGJ)

456 418 Lloyd Marcus, contributor at American Thinker, died of a heart attack yesterday. I enjoyed his pieces at that site.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 25, 2020 02:10 PM (9V5Ko)

Wasn't he a pastor or something?

Posted by: Emmie at July 25, 2020 02:35 PM (+ljgK)

457 People are really fucking stupid. How soon before they 'Pass under the yoke' to show how united and strong they are? And free?

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WE DEMAND THE GOVERNMENT PASS LAWS PREVENTING YOU FROM SAYING THIS KIND OF THING!!!

- antifa

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Stop acting white at July 25, 2020 02:35 PM (5nBSV)

458 You know, I've always hated the suburbs.

This shit where if I open my window and stick my head only to bang it on the wall of the house next door does not strike me as the ideal living environment.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Plugging Into The Matrix at July 25, 2020 11:25 AM (+dsLj)

That's not a suburb, just another conurbation. True suburbs have houses on large lots, so that most of the lot area is green.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2020 02:37 PM (g6Kyc)

459 Wasn't he a pastor or something?
Posted by: Emmie at July 25, 2020 02:35 PM (+ljgK)

I believe so. Also a Tea Party President and songwriter.

But he was black, so he was an Uncle Tom and an unperson, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 25, 2020 02:38 PM (9V5Ko)

460 Striking similarities...

https://tinyurl.com/y5bdsxe9

Posted by: Rico Swabby at July 25, 2020 02:39 PM (d6DSt)

461 I live in a small town in Brandon Florida. There have been massive construction projects all over town. Huge buildings with almost Soviet style architecture. They are putting these structures near the malls and shopping centers. The size of these developments is very alarming. So although Trump might be trying to stop this it is already happened right here in cow town.

Posted by: KWR at July 25, 2020 02:40 PM (8TrZS)

462 Shots fired in Louisville.

Posted by: fly at July 25, 2020 02:40 PM (2M/TV)

463 Took a moment to visualize the circle jerk of jug ear worshipers come up with the name Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing. My head hurts now.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...still entertaining to children and squirrels at July 25, 2020 02:42 PM (sSXWf)

464 here's one

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyzdkhoj

Virginia residents warned not to plant mysterious seeds apparently sent from China
Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:36 AM (TOyHQ)

How hard could it be to sequence the DNA in those seeds, and determine what they are? Hell, a good botanist ought to be able to recognize the genus of the plant just by looking at them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2020 02:43 PM (g6Kyc)

465 Okay, apparently, it was an own goal. Someone in the black group had a negligent discharge at a staging area wounding three of there own.

Posted by: fly at July 25, 2020 02:44 PM (2M/TV)

466

Feeling very angry and aggressive today. Bad day to be working with the public.

Posted by: Rico Swabby at July 25, 2020 02:45 PM (d6DSt)

467 *their

Posted by: fly at July 25, 2020 02:45 PM (2M/TV)

468 How hard could it be to sequence the DNA in those seeds, and determine what they are? Hell, a good botanist ought to be able to recognize the genus of the plant just by looking at them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2020 02:43 PM (g6Kyc)

Kudzu II - Electric Boogaloo

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 25, 2020 02:45 PM (9V5Ko)

469 Here we go. Over/Under on number of American flags on display at the DNC. I will set it at 2.

Posted by: ... at July 25, 2020 02:46 PM (uEbPt)

470 465 Okay, apparently, it was an own goal. Someone in the black group had a negligent discharge at a staging area wounding three of there own.
Posted by: fly at July 25, 2020 02:44 PM (2M/TV)

I was about to say, if this was the west side, this would also be known as: week night.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:46 PM (A5zUN)

471 How hard could it be to sequence the DNA in those seeds, and determine what they are? Hell, a good botanist ought to be able to recognize the genus of the plant just by looking at them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2020 02:43 PM (g6Kyc)

I don't know. How hard can it be to keep track of how many people have died from complications related directly to COVID?

Posted by: ... at July 25, 2020 02:47 PM (uEbPt)

472 Cooking lunch for the Monkey ranch. Grilled cheese and Turkey breast. Paying too much attention to the grey boxes.

* changes menu to Cajun grilled cheese *

Posted by: Sock Monkey...still entertaining to children and squirrels at July 25, 2020 02:48 PM (sSXWf)

473 I'm looking for a parcel of land, say, 25 to 40 acres, somewhere in Central Texas, along an East/West line approximating Marble Falls to the west, and nearly to the Louisiana Border around the area of Kirbyville, to the East.

Ideally, about half-cleared for hay, and about half-wild for hunting and etc.

I'll hope that electric is at least "on the road", and it'd be great to buy a property with a home (even a mobile home to haul away), and a water well, already established.

I'm thinking of calling those various County Ag "Extension Agents", and asking 'em about failing farms or other distressed holdings. I trust an Ag agent a lot more than I do a retail "realtor" who's looking to sell overpriced boutique acreage at a rapacious premium.

But if y'all hear of such a place, let me know. Seriously.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 25, 2020 02:48 PM (QzJWU)

474 Part of this is also the owning of property. Throughout history, the dream for great and small was to own land. It is the surest way to both show prosperity and in the extreme, security. The pride of ownership, of having a spot on this pebble you call 'yours.' It changes your whole world view.

That change of world view. That pride in the embodiment of your own accomplishment and the desire to protect it. That is what they want to get rid of.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:50 PM (A5zUN)

475 here's one

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyzdkhoj

Virginia residents warned not to plant mysterious seeds apparently sent from China
Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 25, 2020 11:36 AM (TOyHQ)

How hard could it be to sequence the DNA in those seeds, and determine what they are? Hell, a good botanist ought to be able to recognize the genus of the plant just by looking at them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2020 02:43 PM (g6Kyc)

Excuse me, thread upstairs for that.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 02:51 PM (1g7ch)

476 How hard could it be to sequence the DNA in those seeds, and determine what they are?

You can, but it'd take some time to do the PCR sampling and amplfication. I've watched our team microbiologist do it plenty of times on microbes but it's not at all instantaneous.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at July 25, 2020 02:51 PM (ZSK0i)

477 * changes menu to Cajun grilled cheese *
Posted by: Sock Monkey...still entertaining to children and squirrels at July 25, 2020 02:48 PM (sSXWf)

I would like to hear more of this 'Cajun grilled cheese'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:52 PM (A5zUN)

478 I would like to hear more of this 'Cajun grilled cheese'.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:52 PM

Blackened.

Totally not raysistt.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...still entertaining to children and squirrels at July 25, 2020 02:54 PM (sSXWf)

479 I've said for years here on AoS, cities are not fit to live in. If you can, get out. It's not like cities are going to get better.

Posted by: Case at July 25, 2020 02:55 PM (frO9V)

480 I have been listening to the History of Rome podcast (I have mentioned this a few times.)

It is amazing how history, if told in an appealing way, can draw me in. Here I am, driving to work, listening to events I already know about, but reacting to events that happened 2300 years ago as if for the first time and they are going on right now. Feeling the devastation as an idiotic Consul gets his army wiped out at Cannae (What a moron! All those good Roman men dead on the field!) Thrilling to Scipio Africanus' rise in Spain (That kid has got something!)

THIS is the shit we should be teaching to get kids interested in THEIR history, just as we did for hundreds of years.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:58 PM (A5zUN)

481

The History of Rome podcast with the three green eyed redheads and the oil amphora is especially interesting.

Posted by: Rico Swabby at July 25, 2020 03:01 PM (d6DSt)

482 PET NOOD

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at July 25, 2020 03:03 PM (6f16T)

483 Why are we making fun of Werner Herzog?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 25, 2020 12:29 PM (gd9RK)

Who the Hell is Werner Herzog?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2020 03:04 PM (GGLPg)

484 Black Trump Supporter Shot Dead In Milwaukee

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Apparently it's open season on the people Babbling Joe says aren't really black.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 25, 2020 03:06 PM (+y/Ru)

485 But Chinese plans for world domination are for every thread

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 03:06 PM (6f16T)

486 Great post, and I loved the bluegrass ending.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at July 25, 2020 03:06 PM (d9Cw3)

487 A resurgence for small rural "estates" or hobby farms would be nice, and high speed internet is becoming widely available even in the sticks.

The short days are kinda a bummer in winter, but going south only gets me an hour extra at most, for the winter solstice. The bad part in the Midwest though, is the days are almost always cloudy ... so S. Utah or N Arizona might be a nice break, for a couple months at least. Senegal or Costa Rica would get an extra 2.5 hours, for me ... but that is a long trip.

A few old friends have moved to Costa Rica ... lots of nice geography and agreeable weather, but I have no idea of their political stability.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2020 03:07 PM (Cus5s)

488 Problem in a third world country is you could wake up some day living in Cambodia.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 03:14 PM (6f16T)

489 It is amazing how history, if told in an appealing way, can draw me in.

THIS is the shit we should be teaching to get kids interested in THEIR history, just as we did for hundreds of years.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 25, 2020 02:58 PM (A5zUN)

Check out "The History Guy" on YouTube. I think you might enjoy his work; I certainly do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 03:15 PM (4eDGJ)

490 A few old friends have moved to Costa Rica ... lots of nice geography and agreeable weather, but I have no idea of their political stability.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2020 03:07 PM (Cus5s)

The concern is that they might be politically stable until they aren't.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2020 03:19 PM (4eDGJ)

491 Problem in a third world country is you could wake up some day living in Cambodia.
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 03:14 PM (6f16T)

Yep. That could never happen here.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2020 03:19 PM (wPVhA)

492 Not sure who is still here. Latest Scott Adams video has him saying that any protester pointing a laser at the feds is a shoot to kill situation.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2020 03:25 PM (YynYJ)

493 yeah, Costa Rica has many US connected wealthy people (I think) ... but if we go any further left, things could get more terrible for them than for US. Or that is my thinking ... but maybe the rich have decided, and made plans for that to be one of their safe havens, while they are burning middle America.

From what little I see, they are less Narco State than others down there ... but I could be totally wrong. Uruguay another like that .... more stable? idk ...

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2020 03:28 PM (Cus5s)

494 Laser to the eyes, sharpened PVC pipes, etc. Cops should be laying these people out like cordwood.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at July 25, 2020 03:31 PM (nFRLh)

495 I'm too old to be moving to another country. But quality of life is important to me. I don't want to fear for my life going out the door. I just want to live my life and be left alone. I don't think that's too much to ask.

Posted by: Case at July 25, 2020 03:32 PM (frO9V)

496 Costa Rica is a shithole, nicer than the other central American shitholes but don't let the rain forest fool you.. And I'm not leaving Texas, alive.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at July 25, 2020 03:35 PM (nFRLh)

497 I would consider Tahiti.
The bad news is that it is largely French, but there are thousands of little islands and they largely leave you alone.
And I speak French.

Posted by: navybrat has the day off at July 25, 2020 03:45 PM (w7KSn)

498 Not sure who is still here. Latest Scott Adams video has him saying that any protester pointing a laser at the feds is a shoot to kill situation.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2020 03:25 PM (YynYJ)

Area effect weapons are the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 25, 2020 03:49 PM (1g7ch)

499 You can get a Concealed Handgun License in Costa Rica.

But you can't hunt for game there.

They have bought 1,000% into the Green Earf mythos, and damn you all to hell for wanting that bacon on the hoof gutted, quartered and filling your freezer.

I don't know anything about their other gun-laws, such as "prohibited weapons" or the like. Buyer, beware.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 25, 2020 03:51 PM (QzJWU)

500 They did this AFFH-type crap in Memphis, the Detroit of the South (well, one of them...).
First, they declared that COCs (criminals of color) were just bad dudes because of their 'bad environment." Therefore, they argued, moving them into a Good Environment, the peaceful and mostly white suburbs, would give them Role Models -- and they would magically conform to community norms.
Then they funded seeding Section 8 welfare housing in these communities. UNEXPECTEDLY, the result was that they planted hot zones of criminal violence in these undefended suburbs. The COCs regarded all this as being installed among their preferred prey, and proceeded to make the crime rates in these suburbs skyrocket.
So the next thing that happened was a couple of Libtard social scientists, who refused to believe that criminals are gonna crim, wanted to refute the idea that crime in the Memphis burbs had anything to do with the Noble Lefty Program installing criminals therein. So they did a couple of maps, using the crime data, etc.
When they superimposed the Crime Hot Spots map on top of the Section 8 Transplants spot, they matched up EXACTLY. (IIRC, they said the shape was like a rabbit's. I don't remember the sociologists' names, but you can search around find it if it hasn't been Memory Holed.)
This was a few years ago, so to give them credit, they actually published their findings. Interesting to see, they were quite crushed and crestfallen that their pet theories about COC 'uplift' were so completely wrong.

But of course the cancer cells the Memphis Government Autocrats had injected into the burbs remained. Poisoning all around them.

Posted by: Beverly at July 25, 2020 04:00 PM (jdUJl)

501 484 Black Trump Supporter Shot Dead In Milwaukee

Another Black Death that doesn't Matter

Posted by: ... at July 25, 2020 04:01 PM (uEbPt)

502 You can tell how well-intentioned these programs are by their utter lack of transparency and open discussion.

Posted by: ... at July 25, 2020 04:03 PM (uEbPt)

503 Burnt toast I have suggested 81mm mortars a few times, but do they listen?

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2020 04:11 PM (6f16T)

504 Stephen King@StephenKing
I have started to see a lot of Trump signs in my little patch of America, and each one provokes the same surge of unreality. I think, "Really? After all the deaths, and all he's done to wreck the economy? REALLY?"

Same people who say this will scream for more shutdowns. Demented.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 25, 2020 04:14 PM (oVJmc)

505 Stephen King@StephenKing
I have started to see a lot of Trump signs in my little patch of America, and each one provokes the same surge of unreality. I think, "Really? After all the deaths, and all he's done to wreck the economy? REALLY?"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 25, 2020 12:19 PM (+y/Ru)

No Biden signs, though.

Huh.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 25, 2020 04:46 PM (yIsOV)

506 Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2020 02:28

Yeah, maybe this could be the retirement look...crazy history professor. Left the wrong imprssion, I've been growing it since Apr of last year. Just got so most of it will stay in a pony tail.

Posted by: Farmer at July 25, 2020 06:01 PM (NUe40)

507 Some Republicans we know just paid off their mortgage on the big suburban house w/ the big yard outside Minnedishu.
Just in time for the entire town to be re-zoned and devoured by Ogabe's Death to the Middle-Class Agenda, the Plandemic, and his Burn Loot Murder mobs.

Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at July 25, 2020 06:11 PM (Mce6+)

508 452
I read somewhere that a number of large corporations are buying up
single family homes in the suburbs and renting them out at high rates.***************************

Do these places have cute names like Vodka Villages, Borscht Manor, Little Leningrad?

Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at July 25, 2020 06:46 PM (Mce6+)

509 Soopreme Court already ruled on this nonsense in 2015, a Texas case.
Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs v. Inclusive Communities Project -
Its "discrimination" to zone an area to be only single family homes. Thanks A-hole Kennedy.

Posted by: Oryguncon at July 25, 2020 09:20 PM (Vc0bA)

510 I said it before, I will say it again.....I will not kneel. Try to force me and you will find the pointy end of a knife, or the 9mn hole of one of my pistols in your face. I can guarandammtee you,I know how to use both. If I am really pissed off, it aint 9mm, but a .44 special loaded with WW hollow-points. I carry everywhere. usually two pistols, and a knife. I like Gerbers., I own a MK2, a Guardian, and a Parabellum . I will not even go to the corner store unheeled. I look for no trouble, treat all with respect, and hold the door for all. Just don't fuck with me. I am bored, pissed off, and ready to give you back any trouble you visit on me or mine. In spades. (can you still say that these days?)

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