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This Cannot Go On
White woman ALLEGEDLY bumps into black teen. Black teen calls her racist, her black mom then harasses the white couple for several minutes/threatens to beat their ass, they try to drive away, black woman follows then hits their car, white woman then gets out of car and pulls gun https://t.co/5RIAc0BIzv
— Savanah Hernandez (@sav_says_) July 2, 2020
On a lighter, more optimistic note:
Good to hear this! RT @KyleKashuv: This is the most important video on the internet right now. pic.twitter.com/oqRdtDfsuN
— K (@daxam) June 28, 2020
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Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 02, 2020 07:49 PM (SFAhl)
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6z5i68
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 02, 2020 07:49 PM (SFAhl)
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my work here is done
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 02, 2020 07:49 PM (SFAhl)
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Wow!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 02, 2020 07:49 PM (axyOa)
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sponge
Posted by: ass chum at July 02, 2020 07:51 PM (Jj+59)
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Many black people hate white people and the media and schools and politicians are telling them that attacking white people is something they should do. This only gets worse.
Posted by: Lulu at July 02, 2020 07:51 PM (3CSAg)
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You know, anyone in a physical altercation has a duty to retreat before using force.
Not really true. That's where Stand Your Ground defenses come from. Of course, not all states have that rule, just the pussy states.
Not really true. That's where Stand Your Ground defenses come from. Of course, not all states have that rule, just the pussy states.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 02, 2020 07:51 PM (Z4rgH)
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I'll say it again: I think Black conservatives are now key in the salvation of America.
I'll say it again: I think Black conservatives are now key in the salvation of America.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 02, 2020 07:52 PM (SFAhl)
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>>>7 You know, anyone in a physical altercation has a duty to retreat before using force.
Not really true. That's where Stand Your Ground defenses come from. Of course, not all states have that rule, just the pussy states.
well in most places you have a duty to retreat, when not in your home.
Not really true. That's where Stand Your Ground defenses come from. Of course, not all states have that rule, just the pussy states.
well in most places you have a duty to retreat, when not in your home.
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 07:52 PM (PbpT7)
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6z5i68
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 02, 2020 07:49 PM (SFAhl)
/gets out his Little Orphan Annie Decoder ring
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 02, 2020 07:49 PM (SFAhl)
/gets out his Little Orphan Annie Decoder ring
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 02, 2020 07:52 PM (NgKpN)
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the point is, even where there IS a duty to retreat, if the aggressor will not permit retreat, the duty to retreat is satisfied and now force may be used.
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 07:52 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 02, 2020 07:53 PM (Z4rgH)
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Never pull unless you intend to use. Brandishing is against the law in most places.
Posted by: Javems at July 02, 2020 07:53 PM (ofIwF)
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Diversity + proximity = violence. Just ask the Tutsis. If you can find any.
Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at July 02, 2020 07:53 PM (Su9Le)
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If you skin that smoke wagon, you better be ready to go to work.
Posted by: Kestrel at July 02, 2020 07:53 PM (XvRlr)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shooting#Shooter
Posted by: Shiggz at July 02, 2020 07:54 PM (Ebnn6)
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As a compassionate conservative, I wouldn't hit any of these three.
Posted by: Will Folks at July 02, 2020 07:54 PM (Jj+59)
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Thanks, ace, for the reminder that I need to grab my gun before leaving to grab groceries in a few minutes. On a side note, this will be my first spin of the facial codpiece I constructed.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik: i can haz purge now? at July 02, 2020 07:54 PM (DTX3h)
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She was let go with no charges. Last I heard
Posted by: Gman at July 02, 2020 07:55 PM (Xhndx)
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8 not without some serious media power. Which we ahem are lacking
Posted by: Shiggz at July 02, 2020 07:56 PM (Ebnn6)
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Whiteness has been criminalized. This will not end well ... and f*ck retreating -- I'll shoot to kill anybody who threatens me or my family or friends or neighbors or even strangers.
If the injustice system is going to treat me like an automatic criminal because of my skin color -- then I'm happy to oblige and act the part. Never, never, never bend the knee to evil!
If the injustice system is going to treat me like an automatic criminal because of my skin color -- then I'm happy to oblige and act the part. Never, never, never bend the knee to evil!
Posted by: ShainS at July 02, 2020 07:56 PM (WqPYg)
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>>>19 She was let go with no charges. Last I heard
that's the last word I heard, too. But -- arrested?
For what?
that's the last word I heard, too. But -- arrested?
For what?
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 07:56 PM (PbpT7)
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9 ace, here I will quote from wiki, not exactly a right-wing outfit:
A stand-your-ground law (sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law) establishes a right by which a person may defend one's self or others (right of self-defense) against threats or perceived threats, even to the point of applying lethal force, regardless of whether safely retreating from the situation might have been possible. Such a law typically states that an individual has no duty to retreat from any place where they have a lawful right to be (though this varies from state to state) and that they may use any level of force if they reasonably believe the threat rises to the level of being an imminent and immediate threat of serious bodily harm and/or death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Stand-your-ground_law
A stand-your-ground law (sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law) establishes a right by which a person may defend one's self or others (right of self-defense) against threats or perceived threats, even to the point of applying lethal force, regardless of whether safely retreating from the situation might have been possible. Such a law typically states that an individual has no duty to retreat from any place where they have a lawful right to be (though this varies from state to state) and that they may use any level of force if they reasonably believe the threat rises to the level of being an imminent and immediate threat of serious bodily harm and/or death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Stand-your-ground_law
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 02, 2020 07:56 PM (Z4rgH)
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The Sheriff in Jacksonville Florida laid it on the line this morning. Peaceful protest or I am deputizing every lawful gun owner in this county and you will not like what happens next.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 02, 2020 07:58 PM (fDqh9)
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Many black people hate white people and the media and schools and politicians are telling them that attacking white people is something they should do. This only gets worse.
Posted by: Lulu at July 02, 2020 07:51 PM (3CSAg)
Here's what's truly awful, from my own point of view (and I want to stress this doesn't apply to the Horde):
Before the dog-eating crackhead took office, I didn't care one way or another about blacks. I won't virtue signal and say I'm not prejudiced, but I tried to take people as they come, in a Will Rogers sort of way.
But after eight years of Barky's not so subtle war on the "typical white person" and the utter rage and insanity of BLM, I have gone from indifference to segregation. If I see a black person I do not know, I immediately presume (especially if they are younger than me) that they have grown up in a toxic stew of hatred and would just as soon kill me as look at me. I avoid any group of blacks if at all possible.
I no longer take people as they come. I begin with the assumption that they hate me because I am a Christian, straight and - especially - white male. Flame me if you want, but that's how it is.
So good job, Democrats. Somewhere Zombie Thomas Dixon is smiling and nodding, "I told you so!"
Posted by: Lulu at July 02, 2020 07:51 PM (3CSAg)
Here's what's truly awful, from my own point of view (and I want to stress this doesn't apply to the Horde):
Before the dog-eating crackhead took office, I didn't care one way or another about blacks. I won't virtue signal and say I'm not prejudiced, but I tried to take people as they come, in a Will Rogers sort of way.
But after eight years of Barky's not so subtle war on the "typical white person" and the utter rage and insanity of BLM, I have gone from indifference to segregation. If I see a black person I do not know, I immediately presume (especially if they are younger than me) that they have grown up in a toxic stew of hatred and would just as soon kill me as look at me. I avoid any group of blacks if at all possible.
I no longer take people as they come. I begin with the assumption that they hate me because I am a Christian, straight and - especially - white male. Flame me if you want, but that's how it is.
So good job, Democrats. Somewhere Zombie Thomas Dixon is smiling and nodding, "I told you so!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 02, 2020 07:58 PM (2JVJo)
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I can't sleep until I hear from Nikki on this. Please, Nikki please.
Posted by: Will Folks at July 02, 2020 07:59 PM (Jj+59)
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That was tense.
Living in California I only have one choice now, and that is to buy a firearm.
56 years old and I'm finally going to do it.
Dan
Living in California I only have one choice now, and that is to buy a firearm.
56 years old and I'm finally going to do it.
Dan
Posted by: Dansgirls at July 02, 2020 07:59 PM (V25ON)
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gnu yeah, I know the law, but most states do not have that.
but even in the states with a duty to retreat -- the PREGNANT white woman satisfied her duty to TRY to retreat. Her aggressor would not permit retreat.
but even in the states with a duty to retreat -- the PREGNANT white woman satisfied her duty to TRY to retreat. Her aggressor would not permit retreat.
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 07:59 PM (PbpT7)
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Zero reason for her to be arrested. The incident is even on video. Law enforcement is completely wrong on this.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at July 02, 2020 07:59 PM (sfstc)
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Grab the phones when you get into something like this.
We're going to have a race war eventually, I'm just assuming college educated white women from affluent families will be for the opposing team. They don't bring much to the table anyway.
We're going to have a race war eventually, I'm just assuming college educated white women from affluent families will be for the opposing team. They don't bring much to the table anyway.
Posted by: Raven at July 02, 2020 07:59 PM (6RfEx)
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Preggers, or just pleasingly plump?
Posted by: Will Folks at July 02, 2020 07:59 PM (Jj+59)
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I introduced a Stand By Your Klan Bill in the WV house in 1957.
Posted by: Zombie Robert Byrd at July 02, 2020 08:00 PM (lGjac)
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What determines the last possible point of retreat in a non stand your ground state? Say a person has a disability that would prevent him or her from backing off or seeking cover that a non encumbered individual could get to. Does the DA say you didn't give it the old college try? As always, avoid trouble, but if you have to do what has to be done, and no one is the wiser, leave. And police your brass.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 02, 2020 08:00 PM (C1Lsn)
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Sometimes people are arrested to get them out of the situation...
Posted by: Lorien1973 at July 02, 2020 08:00 PM (SpKeo)
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>>>What determines the last possible point of retreat in a non stand your ground state?
well, the jury. 99% of the law is based on very subjective calls by the jury as to what is "reasonable" under the circumstances
well, the jury. 99% of the law is based on very subjective calls by the jury as to what is "reasonable" under the circumstances
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 08:01 PM (PbpT7)
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I'll further point out that before stand your ground laws, there was an earlier version:
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 02, 2020 08:01 PM (Z4rgH)
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I hope the black protesters don't get fired from their jobs for saying, "All Lives Matter."
This is a good video to post to every virtue signaling company including religious organizations.
This is a good video to post to every virtue signaling company including religious organizations.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 02, 2020 08:02 PM (wiXsO)
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Come on ace, a good conservative should just roll over and die. Otherwise you become just like those libruls!!1!
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 02, 2020 08:02 PM (L106N)
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I see a video where one set of individuals is goading another, repeatedly. We used to call this "looking for trouble," no?
Sure glad it wasn't me here in Cook County. I'd be in jail faster than fast. And that's my nightmare
Sure glad it wasn't me here in Cook County. I'd be in jail faster than fast. And that's my nightmare
Posted by: Smith, but not always Wesson at July 02, 2020 08:03 PM (MEbkQ)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shooting#Shooter
Posted by: Shiggz at July 02, 2020 07:54 PM (Ebnn6)
First thing that came to mind Bernard Hugo Goetz
Posted by: Shiggz at July 02, 2020 07:54 PM (Ebnn6)
First thing that came to mind Bernard Hugo Goetz
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 02, 2020 08:03 PM (M+Lyo)
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MARGIN STATUS: BLOWN
Posted by: runner at July 02, 2020 08:03 PM (PmAu7)
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Without the media in the corner of Marxists our police would have zero problem restoring order immediately. Thus making people think massive diversity shifts can work large scale.
One of the many suicidal contradictions of the leftist mindset.
One of the many suicidal contradictions of the leftist mindset.
Posted by: Shiggz at July 02, 2020 08:04 PM (Ebnn6)
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The white woman just needs to insist on a jury trial, she better not get convinced to "cut a deal". You're not going to get a unanimous jury to convict her.
And where are the charges for these black bitches?
I can't even imagine if white people acted like this to a pregnant black woman, probably spend the rest of their lives behind bars.
And where are the charges for these black bitches?
I can't even imagine if white people acted like this to a pregnant black woman, probably spend the rest of their lives behind bars.
Posted by: Raven at July 02, 2020 08:04 PM (6RfEx)
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the "false imprisonment" people should be arrested, now that "cooler heads prevailed and released the righteous woman. All these street blockings mixed with p[hysical threats and violence ... film (ha, that word film was my first thought, so I left it, "record") everything, so those criminals can be arrested for their insurgency.
Same with every single person pulling on a rope to topple a statue, or participating in any way. Arrest, charge, prosecute, imprison. It can make a nice movie ... the "meet cute" ... story where the rioter first meets real law and order, and becomes a prison bitch ... love story.
Same with every single person pulling on a rope to topple a statue, or participating in any way. Arrest, charge, prosecute, imprison. It can make a nice movie ... the "meet cute" ... story where the rioter first meets real law and order, and becomes a prison bitch ... love story.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 02, 2020 08:05 PM (Cus5s)
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Preggers, or just pleasingly plump?
The way she's being attended to and the way she's holding her belly says "pregnant".
The way she's being attended to and the way she's holding her belly says "pregnant".
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at July 02, 2020 08:05 PM (ZSK0i)
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Ace is making the point that a few on the left (the sane ones) have been making for years.
When the reaction comes from the right it's going to be final.
When the reaction comes from the right it's going to be final.
Posted by: MJ at July 02, 2020 08:05 PM (gAMkn)
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Just a reminder: once you're in the vehicle, don't dismount unless absolutely necessary. Being protected by a 2 ton steel cage is much better than exiting and putting your firearm within arm's reach of the threat.
Also, don't try to engage in an argument with morons. Verbal judo to disengage; if they won't allow it and block your movement, it's time to start knocking heads.
Also, don't try to engage in an argument with morons. Verbal judo to disengage; if they won't allow it and block your movement, it's time to start knocking heads.
Posted by: PabloD, cargo specialist for Aero Pinochet at July 02, 2020 08:05 PM (Q8mm0)
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I can see a prosecutor doing a number on the woman with the gun if she had shot. In the Zimmerman shooting they made a huge deal about him following Martin even though 911 hadn't ordered him to. Since she got out of the car I'm sure a properly sadistic da could have said she escalated it by leaving her could say she escalated it by leaving her cozy and safe vehicle without cause and with intent to commit vigilante justice on this poor woman who was just standing up for her innocent daughter against racism. Que the next riots.
Posted by: Allen_lou at July 02, 2020 08:05 PM (kRcln)
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White arrested so the woke wouldn't burn down the police bldg. tonight. Maybe later. You almost have to sustain an injury before returning fire. Sux.
Posted by: azalea city at July 02, 2020 08:06 PM (WX+x0)
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Lake Orion is metro Detroit. With MI crazy Governor
and with the craziness in Detroit and people on edge
I am not surprised at this at all.
and with the craziness in Detroit and people on edge
I am not surprised at this at all.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 02, 2020 08:06 PM (M7/zw)
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This can't go on. And yet it does. It even gets worse, day after day. But hey, the job numbers are great!
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at July 02, 2020 08:06 PM (rep16)
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35 Ace,of course the jury has the last say. However, how many clear cut cases of self defense are still prosecuted by overzealous DAs? How many people, when placed in that situation have the financial wherewithal to go through trial?
Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 02, 2020 08:06 PM (C1Lsn)
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You know, if a large Itialian man and his crew were going around my neighborhood, I think I would prefer to pay him than the police.
At least he has an incentive to keep me alive
The cops?
They've made their choice. They'll get no more support from me.
As the saying goes, their silence-- defending liberty and freedom-- is violence
At least he has an incentive to keep me alive
The cops?
They've made their choice. They'll get no more support from me.
As the saying goes, their silence-- defending liberty and freedom-- is violence
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 02, 2020 08:07 PM (aO8Gd)
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post no 16.
Posted by: runner at July 02, 2020 08:07 PM (PmAu7)
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James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
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@RealJamesWoods
So Gavin Newsom is closing down restaurants and bars and destroying family-owned businesses all over California. Oh wait, here's one that's still open!
https://tinyurl.com/yb4exoxb
Posted by: redridinghood at July 02, 2020 08:08 PM (wiXsO)
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First thing that came to mind Bernard Hugo Goetz
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 02, 2020 08:03 PM (M+Lyo)
"Yes, I have white privilege. I have white privilege for each of you."
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 02, 2020 08:03 PM (M+Lyo)
"Yes, I have white privilege. I have white privilege for each of you."
Posted by: Vanya, Commercial Diving Rep at July 02, 2020 08:08 PM (R7nPl)
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As has been said before, this moment reveals perfectly that the GOP is an illegitimate political party.
We elect these people to defend us, defend our interests, they are not only not defending us, they are siding with the mob.
At at a time of complete breakdown of law, order and the civil society when they should be pushing for greater expansions of 2nd amendment rights through mechanisms such as constitutional carry, they are pushing things such as renaming military bases, changing culturally significant holidays and other wise surrendering America to the mob.
I hate these cowards more than the neo-marxists.
We elect these people to defend us, defend our interests, they are not only not defending us, they are siding with the mob.
At at a time of complete breakdown of law, order and the civil society when they should be pushing for greater expansions of 2nd amendment rights through mechanisms such as constitutional carry, they are pushing things such as renaming military bases, changing culturally significant holidays and other wise surrendering America to the mob.
I hate these cowards more than the neo-marxists.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 02, 2020 08:08 PM (JcakY)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:08 PM (luzVb)
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Just a reminder: once you're in the vehicle, don't dismount unless absolutely necessary. Being protected by a 2 ton steel cage is much better than exiting and putting your firearm within arm's reach of the threat.
Also, don't try to engage in an argument with morons. Verbal judo to disengage; if they won't allow it and block your movement, it's time to start knocking heads.
Posted by: PabloD
___________________
I agree, but she still shouldn't be charged.
Also, don't try to engage in an argument with morons. Verbal judo to disengage; if they won't allow it and block your movement, it's time to start knocking heads.
Posted by: PabloD
___________________
I agree, but she still shouldn't be charged.
Posted by: Raven at July 02, 2020 08:08 PM (6RfEx)
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Oh please, the White Interloper should have been arrested.
Kidding, obviously. She took the pains to retreat, but when the thugs chased her down, what choice did she have?
And I haven't read all the comments, but to give you an idea what we're dealing with, last week we had a riot in our division. Young cop got suckered punched and broke his orbital bone.
We collected the evidence, identified the thug, and sent the body camera footage to the DA's Office. They came back today and said that wasn't enough.
They don't want to arrest anyone who assaults a cop now, because racism. My lieutenant took every body camera and sent all the footage to the DA and demanded they look at the dozen or so cameras which all showed the assault in perfect detail.
My point is you cannot count on the upper echelon brass in police departments, district attorneys, politicians or, sadly, cops anymore. Arm yourselves, know the law, and remember it's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Kidding, obviously. She took the pains to retreat, but when the thugs chased her down, what choice did she have?
And I haven't read all the comments, but to give you an idea what we're dealing with, last week we had a riot in our division. Young cop got suckered punched and broke his orbital bone.
We collected the evidence, identified the thug, and sent the body camera footage to the DA's Office. They came back today and said that wasn't enough.
They don't want to arrest anyone who assaults a cop now, because racism. My lieutenant took every body camera and sent all the footage to the DA and demanded they look at the dozen or so cameras which all showed the assault in perfect detail.
My point is you cannot count on the upper echelon brass in police departments, district attorneys, politicians or, sadly, cops anymore. Arm yourselves, know the law, and remember it's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:09 PM (PhAkB)
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You get arrested for pulling your iron in a situation like that, DEMAND A TRIAL.
Those charges will be dismissed from the prosecutor quicker than you think. And if not? You'll have a settlement.
Those charges will be dismissed from the prosecutor quicker than you think. And if not? You'll have a settlement.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at July 02, 2020 08:09 PM (xyImL)
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I heard the pregnant lady was released without charge? Could someone verify?
And why, I ask rhetorically, have the other two not been arrested for assault and wrongful imprisonment?
And why, I ask rhetorically, have the other two not been arrested for assault and wrongful imprisonment?
Posted by: lowtech redneck at July 02, 2020 08:09 PM (hfClf)
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I see some racists there, and they aren't driving a mini-van.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 02, 2020 08:10 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 02, 2020 08:10 PM (2JVJo)
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Should have capped her and saved on the legal fees.
" I feared for my life and my unborn child's life."
" I feared for my life and my unborn child's life."
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:10 PM (luzVb)
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Paging Paul Kersey. Paul Kersey to the nonwhite courtesy phone.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 02, 2020 08:10 PM (aKsyK)
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Diversity + proximity = violence. Just ask the Tutsis. If you can find any.
That's stupid and un-American.
That's stupid and un-American.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 02, 2020 08:11 PM (gd9RK)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 02, 2020 08:11 PM (1g7ch)
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These naggers, both white and black, need to be capped.
Posted by: gb at July 02, 2020 08:12 PM (9qgwW)
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>>>When the reaction comes from the right it's going to be final.
not really. I'm saying that when the shooting starts going both ways, things will spiral into civil war quickly, always escalating, always getting bloodier and more savage.
and I'm saying the police and government have only a few days left to restore order so that the shooting doesn't start going both ways.
not really. I'm saying that when the shooting starts going both ways, things will spiral into civil war quickly, always escalating, always getting bloodier and more savage.
and I'm saying the police and government have only a few days left to restore order so that the shooting doesn't start going both ways.
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 08:12 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Golfman at July 02, 2020 08:12 PM (Dhbgn)
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Should have told the aggressor that if she wanted to see a real racist just look in the mirror.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 02, 2020 08:12 PM (1g7ch)
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>>>Somebody gonna flip the switch.
And that's what will slow this down. Some Antifa pussy goes too far, someone shoots, then boom, everyone wakes up.
And that's what will slow this down. Some Antifa pussy goes too far, someone shoots, then boom, everyone wakes up.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:12 PM (PhAkB)
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That's bullshit that she got arrested. Harrass and arrest the people who are most likely to support you. That's a great plan.
We're getting close to a bipartisan consensus that today's police are the enemy.
We're getting close to a bipartisan consensus that today's police are the enemy.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at July 02, 2020 08:12 PM (lRrON)
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6 Many black people hate white people and the media and schools and politicians are telling them that attacking white people is something they should do. This only gets worse.
Posted by: Lulu at July 02, 2020 07:51 PM (3CSAg)
Get's worse? 10 million violent black and Hispanic on white crimes the last 12 years isn't bad enough? That's only who the DA in blue cities decides to go after. The DA in St. Louis only decided to pursue 23 percent of black crimes the police asked. Have you ever been mugged, carjacked, had a gun thrown in your face, been jumped by a group from behind? I have and it almost turned into a carjacking gone wrong if not for some people walking home from downtown early who happened to be walking down the street. The cops did nothing... can't make the city look bad with high crime stats. I got 10 stitches from the pistol whip before the fuckers ran off.
Posted by: Lulu at July 02, 2020 07:51 PM (3CSAg)
Get's worse? 10 million violent black and Hispanic on white crimes the last 12 years isn't bad enough? That's only who the DA in blue cities decides to go after. The DA in St. Louis only decided to pursue 23 percent of black crimes the police asked. Have you ever been mugged, carjacked, had a gun thrown in your face, been jumped by a group from behind? I have and it almost turned into a carjacking gone wrong if not for some people walking home from downtown early who happened to be walking down the street. The cops did nothing... can't make the city look bad with high crime stats. I got 10 stitches from the pistol whip before the fuckers ran off.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at July 02, 2020 08:12 PM (cFwh0)
Posted by: Golfman at July 02, 2020 08:13 PM (Dhbgn)
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Margins blown early.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 02, 2020 08:13 PM (ycxIH)
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You know what i'd like to see? A group of tort minded conservative lawyers who start singling out assholes like the ones featured in this post, the antifa types and others. Start filing lawsuits against them.
Depositions.
Endless court appearances.
Make them pay, make their lives a hell.
Use the same fucking weapons against them that they use against us.
Depositions.
Endless court appearances.
Make them pay, make their lives a hell.
Use the same fucking weapons against them that they use against us.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at July 02, 2020 08:13 PM (xyImL)
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If I'm on the jury and there's even technical violations of the law, I'm going to have explain jury nullification if no one else does.
It's a shame that one decent knowledgeable person wasn't on Roger Stone's jury.
It's a shame that one decent knowledgeable person wasn't on Roger Stone's jury.
Posted by: lymond at July 02, 2020 08:13 PM (Jvjtu)
80
Wyatt, thanks as always for your high-quality direct insights.
I take it the assailant against your rookie cop was not a white guy?
I take it the assailant against your rookie cop was not a white guy?
Posted by: rhomboid at July 02, 2020 08:14 PM (El6T/)
81
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Posted by: GnuBreed
Yes. I have always calmed myself with this thought also. But, sometimes I worry that they have made so many laws, that the jury can not save me. Oh, you brandished a gun in a public place. We have video, we do not care what the jury says. You violated penal code blah blah blah. Can that sort of scenario happen? Can I always get a jury of my supposed peers to listen to my story in court?
Posted by: GnuBreed
Yes. I have always calmed myself with this thought also. But, sometimes I worry that they have made so many laws, that the jury can not save me. Oh, you brandished a gun in a public place. We have video, we do not care what the jury says. You violated penal code blah blah blah. Can that sort of scenario happen? Can I always get a jury of my supposed peers to listen to my story in court?
Posted by: MikeM at July 02, 2020 08:14 PM (EiKVS)
82
"Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
Yeah that sounds great until Kim Foxx throws you in prison for the rest of your life, at which point you might as well be dead.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge 2A supporter, but the problem with guns is that they give people--especially naive white boomers--a false sense of security.
I hate to say it, but in a way Obama was right. Atomized, demoralized people cling to their guns like a life preserver, as if that's the only thing that will save them, in the face of an entire leviathan system that wants them dead.
You have these guys like, "Welp, my daughter's a whore on Onlyfans, and my son chopped his dick off, and my church is flying a rainbow flag, and I just got fired from my job because somebody in HR didn't like a tweet I made, and the politicians I voted for sold me out to foreign interests, and basically every fucking institution in my society has been subverted and produces 24/7 propaganda attacking me...but I've got my guns, so watch out!"
It's like, you fucking idiot, they've already taken everything from you that's worth defending without you even firing a shot, so what fucking good did all the guns do you? And by the way, in the end they're going to take the gun too if they're not stopped, and you probably won't do shit about that either.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?
Yeah that sounds great until Kim Foxx throws you in prison for the rest of your life, at which point you might as well be dead.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge 2A supporter, but the problem with guns is that they give people--especially naive white boomers--a false sense of security.
I hate to say it, but in a way Obama was right. Atomized, demoralized people cling to their guns like a life preserver, as if that's the only thing that will save them, in the face of an entire leviathan system that wants them dead.
You have these guys like, "Welp, my daughter's a whore on Onlyfans, and my son chopped his dick off, and my church is flying a rainbow flag, and I just got fired from my job because somebody in HR didn't like a tweet I made, and the politicians I voted for sold me out to foreign interests, and basically every fucking institution in my society has been subverted and produces 24/7 propaganda attacking me...but I've got my guns, so watch out!"
It's like, you fucking idiot, they've already taken everything from you that's worth defending without you even firing a shot, so what fucking good did all the guns do you? And by the way, in the end they're going to take the gun too if they're not stopped, and you probably won't do shit about that either.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at July 02, 2020 08:14 PM (b6uXy)
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Shooting already started. Mostly one way.
Just not everyday.
Just not everyday.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 02, 2020 08:15 PM (1g7ch)
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You have a duty to die for diversity!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 02, 2020 08:15 PM (+y/Ru)
85
Pistol in the minivan. Strong.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 02, 2020 08:15 PM (ja/kn)
86
You know what happened next?
No one got shot.
So all the assholes in this dumpster fire of an antisocial media parallel universe Bizzarro World country they keep wrongly calling "America", who are piling onto this woman for defending herself, can go commandeer a whole five truck convoy full of offs and fuck every single one of them.
No one got shot.
So all the assholes in this dumpster fire of an antisocial media parallel universe Bizzarro World country they keep wrongly calling "America", who are piling onto this woman for defending herself, can go commandeer a whole five truck convoy full of offs and fuck every single one of them.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 02, 2020 08:15 PM (6FeV1)
87
The problem is that these are young people for whom there have never been consequences, demanding everyone submit, facing down people who really are trying to restrain themselves from giving the fools what they have coming.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:15 PM (KZzsI)
88
We collected the evidence, identified the thug, and sent the body camera
footage to the DA's Office. They came back today and said that wasn't
enough.
This is where we're at, I guess. Balkanization is a difficult concept to get used to, at least for me. I suppose I shall continue to plan accordingly.
footage to the DA's Office. They came back today and said that wasn't
enough.
This is where we're at, I guess. Balkanization is a difficult concept to get used to, at least for me. I suppose I shall continue to plan accordingly.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 02, 2020 08:15 PM (EgshT)
89
Should have told the aggressor that if she wanted to see a real racist just look in the mirror.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 02, 2020 08:12 PM (1g7ch)
Interesting how she called him a stupid white ass. I wonder what would have happened if he said " The sherrif is near" ?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 02, 2020 08:12 PM (1g7ch)
Interesting how she called him a stupid white ass. I wonder what would have happened if he said " The sherrif is near" ?
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 02, 2020 08:15 PM (M+Lyo)
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>>>Wyatt, thanks as always for your high-quality direct insights.
I take it the assailant against your rookie cop was not a white guy?
North Philly is Fallujah. My division has the most shootings and most homicides. This fine young gentleman was black, but the neighborhood is predominantly black.
Sad, since there are a ton of good people there surrounded by gun-toting thugs.
I take it the assailant against your rookie cop was not a white guy?
North Philly is Fallujah. My division has the most shootings and most homicides. This fine young gentleman was black, but the neighborhood is predominantly black.
Sad, since there are a ton of good people there surrounded by gun-toting thugs.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:15 PM (PhAkB)
91
I agree ace, they have days not weeks to try and put this back in the bottle. I don't think they can.
Posted by: Pliney at July 02, 2020 08:16 PM (nzKWW)
92
It will take a lot of dead criminals--and, frankly, the cops and city officials who physically run interference for them in many cases--before this stops. A few citizens protecting themselves can be arrested here and there but when the numbers get high enough something will give. Learn from this woman. And get the names of the black thug family who rammed her vehicle.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:16 PM (puu6v)
93
Trump endorsed Tommy Tuberville suspended a player in 1999 for raping a 15 year old.... for one day. This infinity immigration fuckstick is running against Sessions in the GOP primary July 14th. choose wisely Bama.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at July 02, 2020 08:16 PM (cFwh0)
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As has been said before, this moment reveals perfectly that the GOP is an illegitimate political party.
Didn't you hear? Mitch McConnell came out strongly against "mask stigma."
And Tom Cotton started a blue ribbon panel to cave in to the terrorists in BLM by renaming bases and erasing history.
Abbott pulled a Texas mandatory mask rule out of his dead ass.
DeSantis shut down bars restaurants and beaches.
GOP, baby.
Getting shit DONE!!
Didn't you hear? Mitch McConnell came out strongly against "mask stigma."
And Tom Cotton started a blue ribbon panel to cave in to the terrorists in BLM by renaming bases and erasing history.
Abbott pulled a Texas mandatory mask rule out of his dead ass.
DeSantis shut down bars restaurants and beaches.
GOP, baby.
Getting shit DONE!!
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:16 PM (luzVb)
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Evening.
I wonder what happened before they started recording?
The, uh, we'll just call them Likely Democrats, keep shouting about Mrs. Preggers "bumping" the young girl.
And? So what?
Even if Mrs. Preggers had been terribly rude I think society generally allows a pregnant woman certain latitude when it comes to misbehavior like being but by, crying at random or hurling ashtrays at her husband's head.
My message to the Likely Democrats would be, "Get the fuck over it."
I wonder what happened before they started recording?
The, uh, we'll just call them Likely Democrats, keep shouting about Mrs. Preggers "bumping" the young girl.
And? So what?
Even if Mrs. Preggers had been terribly rude I think society generally allows a pregnant woman certain latitude when it comes to misbehavior like being but by, crying at random or hurling ashtrays at her husband's head.
My message to the Likely Democrats would be, "Get the fuck over it."
Posted by: Robert at July 02, 2020 08:17 PM (kpYSf)
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I love the man in the last video. Makes me think of the preacher that Brian Zeno and David Byrne sampled one Help Me Somebody (MyLife in the Bush of Ghosts album).
I'd link it, but I'm on my phone and I lack skillz.
I'd link it, but I'm on my phone and I lack skillz.
Posted by: April, Freedom Now! at July 02, 2020 08:17 PM (OX9vb)
97
Portland had to take down the elk statue that antifa rioters lit on fire last night. Its made of metal, but it was damaged in the fire.
Its just an elk. There's no racial or political message. There's no story behind it that's shocking. There's no symbolism. Its an elk.
Its just an elk. There's no racial or political message. There's no story behind it that's shocking. There's no symbolism. Its an elk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:17 PM (KZzsI)
98
Falling down
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 02, 2020 08:17 PM (M+Lyo)
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>>>82 "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
Yeah that sounds great until Kim Foxx throws you in prison for the rest of your life, at which point you might as well be dead.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge 2A supporter, but the problem with guns is that they give people--especially naive white boomers--a false sense of security.
I hate to say it, but in a way Obama was right. Atomized, demoralized people cling to their guns like a life preserver, as if that's the only thing that will save them, in the face of an entire leviathan system that wants them dead.
You have these guys like, "Welp, my daughter's a whore on Onlyfans, and my son chopped his dick off, and my church is flying a rainbow flag, and I just got fired from my job because somebody in HR didn't like a tweet I made, and the politicians I voted for sold me out to foreign interests, and basically every fucking institution in my society has been subverted and produces 24/7 propaganda attacking me...but I've got my guns, so watch out!"
It's like, you fucking idiot, they've already taken everything from you that's worth defending without you even firing a shot, so what fucking good did all the guns do you? And by the way, in the end they're going to take the gun too if they're not stopped, and you probably won't do shit about that either.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo
...
this is a real wake-you-up home truth.
Yeah that sounds great until Kim Foxx throws you in prison for the rest of your life, at which point you might as well be dead.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge 2A supporter, but the problem with guns is that they give people--especially naive white boomers--a false sense of security.
I hate to say it, but in a way Obama was right. Atomized, demoralized people cling to their guns like a life preserver, as if that's the only thing that will save them, in the face of an entire leviathan system that wants them dead.
You have these guys like, "Welp, my daughter's a whore on Onlyfans, and my son chopped his dick off, and my church is flying a rainbow flag, and I just got fired from my job because somebody in HR didn't like a tweet I made, and the politicians I voted for sold me out to foreign interests, and basically every fucking institution in my society has been subverted and produces 24/7 propaganda attacking me...but I've got my guns, so watch out!"
It's like, you fucking idiot, they've already taken everything from you that's worth defending without you even firing a shot, so what fucking good did all the guns do you? And by the way, in the end they're going to take the gun too if they're not stopped, and you probably won't do shit about that either.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo
...
this is a real wake-you-up home truth.
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 08:18 PM (PbpT7)
100
So using your car as a weapon to assault another is not a crime?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 02, 2020 08:18 PM (2DOZq)
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I'll be right there with the counter-vigilantes if it comes to that.
Posted by: Mookie at July 02, 2020 08:18 PM (3vIkC)
102
I signed up with USCCA this week. Having a lawyer on call to defend me in a case like this suddenly sounded like an excellent idea.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at July 02, 2020 08:18 PM (xIfa7)
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>>>91 I agree ace, they have days not weeks to try and put this back in the bottle. I don't think they can.
men could. We have not elected men.
men could. We have not elected men.
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 08:18 PM (PbpT7)
104
"91 I agree ace, they have days not weeks to try and put this back in the bottle. I don't think they can."
People, particularly white people, have learned they will have to protect themselves and wound and kill if necessary. It was inevitable and it is very dangerous time.
The police and city officials standing down as property is destroyed and people are assaulted are more than complicit, they are accessories. The message is unmistakable: you intervene or even fight back if caught in the crossfire, and we assist the anarchists. The police and city officials in these cases are not your friends.
People, particularly white people, have learned they will have to protect themselves and wound and kill if necessary. It was inevitable and it is very dangerous time.
The police and city officials standing down as property is destroyed and people are assaulted are more than complicit, they are accessories. The message is unmistakable: you intervene or even fight back if caught in the crossfire, and we assist the anarchists. The police and city officials in these cases are not your friends.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:19 PM (puu6v)
105
Wyatt - I lived in N. Philly for about 5 months. That was enough for me, and I moved back to the PNW. Of course, Portland was not quite the open-air asylum it is now, but it steadily got crazier so I decided to move to a quieter part of the state years ago.
I always said N. Philly looked like Beirut, circa 1984.
I always said N. Philly looked like Beirut, circa 1984.
Posted by: PabloD, cargo specialist for Aero Pinochet at July 02, 2020 08:19 PM (Q8mm0)
106
>>>I agree ace, they have days not weeks to try and put this back in the bottle. I don't think they can.
We're trying, but when the mayor, DA, and police commissioner are against us, there's only so much we can do. The mayor and DA released every rioter during that first week. The DA and police commissioner has arrested or fired a handful of officers for their actions while the city burned.
We're still locking people up, but they aren't getting past the DA. The charges are dropped, or they are released outright. At least in Philly.
We're trying, but when the mayor, DA, and police commissioner are against us, there's only so much we can do. The mayor and DA released every rioter during that first week. The DA and police commissioner has arrested or fired a handful of officers for their actions while the city burned.
We're still locking people up, but they aren't getting past the DA. The charges are dropped, or they are released outright. At least in Philly.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:19 PM (PhAkB)
Posted by: rhomboid at July 02, 2020 08:19 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 02, 2020 08:19 PM (u82oZ)
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And Tom Cotton started a blue ribbon panel to cave in to the terrorists in BLM by renaming bases and erasing history.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:16 PM
My understanding is that he and Josh Hawley have publically opposed renaming military bases: source?
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:16 PM
My understanding is that he and Josh Hawley have publically opposed renaming military bases: source?
Posted by: lowtech redneck at July 02, 2020 08:20 PM (hfClf)
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87 The problem is that these are young people for whom there have never been consequences, demanding everyone submit, facing down people who really are trying to restrain themselves from giving the fools what they have coming.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:15 PM (KZzsI)
You think fucko there picking the fight in this video would do so if she got bumped into by the OG down the street who runs the block? By the chief representative of the local union of the predominant latin drug gang of the week?
But lone white chick in minivan... Easy prey.
Well... not so easy prey, it turns out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:15 PM (KZzsI)
You think fucko there picking the fight in this video would do so if she got bumped into by the OG down the street who runs the block? By the chief representative of the local union of the predominant latin drug gang of the week?
But lone white chick in minivan... Easy prey.
Well... not so easy prey, it turns out.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 02, 2020 08:20 PM (6FeV1)
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If you ever are forced to use a gun, your first thoughts after the threat has been stopped now has to be, "Are there any witnesses left? Are they bad people who could be eliminated?" Of course bad is a totally subjective term. Up to you, but they can only hang you once. "Could be eliminated" is more definitive. How many are there? How much ammo do you have? Its an all or none calculation.
Then there is the temporary insanity defense. Who looks like they have been driven over the edge? The carefully controlled person who uses the absolute minimum of force, or the crazed, screaming, crying, guy who uses the butt of his empty gun to beat and smash the feet of the dead and collapses weeping on the ground when the cops finally show up. Why the feet? Because it is crazy. Insanity is easy to fake. Just talk like a democrat who is losing an argument.
Then there is the temporary insanity defense. Who looks like they have been driven over the edge? The carefully controlled person who uses the absolute minimum of force, or the crazed, screaming, crying, guy who uses the butt of his empty gun to beat and smash the feet of the dead and collapses weeping on the ground when the cops finally show up. Why the feet? Because it is crazy. Insanity is easy to fake. Just talk like a democrat who is losing an argument.
Posted by: FlimFlammed at July 02, 2020 08:20 PM (ZTDnL)
112
Portland had to take down the elk statue that antifa rioters lit on fire last night. Its made of metal, but it was damaged in the fire.
Its just an elk. There's no racial or political message. There's no story behind it that's shocking. There's no symbolism. Its an elk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:17 PM (KZzsI)
Fire can't melt steel !!!!
Its just an elk. There's no racial or political message. There's no story behind it that's shocking. There's no symbolism. Its an elk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:17 PM (KZzsI)
Fire can't melt steel !!!!
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 02, 2020 08:20 PM (2DOZq)
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97 How do you know that elk has no significant message? That elk may have run through the countryside with Robert Byrd and the Nightriders, who opened for somebody.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 02, 2020 08:20 PM (C1Lsn)
114
Wrote days ago it seems they want total immunity for any crime, and to stop that they want the victim arrested.
Posted by: Skip at July 02, 2020 08:20 PM (6f16T)
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Will there be a Go Fund Me for this harrassed, chased, put in fear pregnant woman? My guess is no.
Posted by: LASue at July 02, 2020 08:20 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:20 PM (KZzsI)
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Everything right now is "submit". Submit - wear a mask. Submit - church is closed. Submit - be woke or be fired. Submit - watch what you say. Submit - be beaten or be arrested.
Enough.
Enough.
Posted by: Mookie at July 02, 2020 08:20 PM (3vIkC)
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97 Portland had to take down the elk statue that antifa rioters lit on fire last night. Its made of metal, but it was damaged in the fire.
Its just an elk. There's no racial or political message. There's no story behind it that's shocking. There's no symbolism. Its an elk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:17 PM (KZzsI)
Because as you and everyone else knows on here, this was never about statues or the confederate flag. It was always about destroying America.
I'm starting to shift my position a bit on this and see the major blue cities starting to fall because the cops who are restrained can't intervene, or simply won't.
The red cities will hold out. Perhaps the silver lining is that the denizens of Seattle, Portland et al will finally have enough of the anarchy and decide playtime is over. Or they don't and let entire sections of the city fall into Thunderdome.
At this point, fuck em.
Its just an elk. There's no racial or political message. There's no story behind it that's shocking. There's no symbolism. Its an elk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:17 PM (KZzsI)
Because as you and everyone else knows on here, this was never about statues or the confederate flag. It was always about destroying America.
I'm starting to shift my position a bit on this and see the major blue cities starting to fall because the cops who are restrained can't intervene, or simply won't.
The red cities will hold out. Perhaps the silver lining is that the denizens of Seattle, Portland et al will finally have enough of the anarchy and decide playtime is over. Or they don't and let entire sections of the city fall into Thunderdome.
At this point, fuck em.
Posted by: Ballz und Sheft at July 02, 2020 08:21 PM (xyImL)
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>>>108 ace
She was arrested to get her away from the scene.
but in the video she'd already driven off, I thought...?
She was arrested to get her away from the scene.
but in the video she'd already driven off, I thought...?
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 08:21 PM (PbpT7)
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We're still locking people up, but they aren't getting past the DA. The charges are dropped, or they are released outright. At least in Philly.
They have to know what happens when the police will not or cannot enforce the law, right? They have to know what happens next.
They have to know what happens when the police will not or cannot enforce the law, right? They have to know what happens next.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:21 PM (KZzsI)
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>>>Wyatt - I lived in N. Philly for about 5 months. That was enough for me, and I moved back to the PNW.
I've been lucky. Worked in Kensington when I left the Academy, back when that neighborhood was murdertown. Spent a few years in the northeast bored to tears, and fifteen years in North Philly. You learn more in violent places than in easy ones.
What destroys my will to stay is no one in this city has our backs, especially the commissioner.
I've been lucky. Worked in Kensington when I left the Academy, back when that neighborhood was murdertown. Spent a few years in the northeast bored to tears, and fifteen years in North Philly. You learn more in violent places than in easy ones.
What destroys my will to stay is no one in this city has our backs, especially the commissioner.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (PhAkB)
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>>115 Will there be a Go Fund Me for this harrassed, chased, put in fear pregnant woman? My guess is no.
Posted by: LASue
if you tried, they'd shut it down for #Racism
And then National Review would explain why you racists deserve it
Posted by: LASue
if you tried, they'd shut it down for #Racism
And then National Review would explain why you racists deserve it
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (PbpT7)
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Is there a website that has simple instructions on how to buy a damn handgun?
Tons of "here's the latest change in the laws" "here's how gun laws differ from state to state" "did you know you can just buy a shotgun?" "Concealed carry you say?" "Here's a man and a plan to train with you handgun..." " you can buy a gun but you'll probably need a permit...". "Did you know if you get a gun from a relative, this becomes much simpler..." "here's what gun you should buy and why..." "here's a website with every gunlaw on the books in your state...."
Enough.
I have a pocket full of money, no papers, and an empty hand. Simple instructions on what minimal paperwork is needed, where to find it, who to run it past, and how to get to the point where I can empty my wallet and fill my holster. (Ignoring the wait period)
Tons of "here's the latest change in the laws" "here's how gun laws differ from state to state" "did you know you can just buy a shotgun?" "Concealed carry you say?" "Here's a man and a plan to train with you handgun..." " you can buy a gun but you'll probably need a permit...". "Did you know if you get a gun from a relative, this becomes much simpler..." "here's what gun you should buy and why..." "here's a website with every gunlaw on the books in your state...."
Enough.
I have a pocket full of money, no papers, and an empty hand. Simple instructions on what minimal paperwork is needed, where to find it, who to run it past, and how to get to the point where I can empty my wallet and fill my holster. (Ignoring the wait period)
Posted by: Downcast, feeling like I am getting the runaround at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (s5B/F)
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But ace, the WH quickly did (a very bogus) EO on "police reform"! And the Senate GOP has a "police reform" bill! Sen. Scott even cried over some "slight" worthy of a Tik-Tok scenario involving 20-yr olds!
And they're trying to rename military bases!
And they're trying to rename military bases!
Posted by: rhomboid at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (El6T/)
125
The cops have decided to make us each fight for our own lives.
There is no help coming but self-help.
Tucker said he got a call from the McCloskeys in St. Louis. The mob is threatening to show up at their home tonight. They called cops who apparently are busy doing other things. They call private security firms and they won't help either. The last one told him to leave the home.
The cops have decided to make us each fight for our own lives.
There is no help coming but self-help.
Tucker said he got a call from the McCloskeys in St. Louis. The mob is threatening to show up at their home tonight. They called cops who apparently are busy doing other things. They call private security firms and they won't help either. The last one told him to leave the home.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
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>>>They have to know what happens when the police will not or cannot enforce the law, right? They have to know what happens next.
They do but Larry Krasner was placed by Soros with the firm intention of "criminal justice reform." To Krasner that means releasing everyone.
We had a shooter sentenced to probation two weeks ago. Probation!
They do but Larry Krasner was placed by Soros with the firm intention of "criminal justice reform." To Krasner that means releasing everyone.
We had a shooter sentenced to probation two weeks ago. Probation!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:23 PM (PhAkB)
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I love how the left is trying to portray wearing a mask: are you MAN ENOUGH to cover your face in case you might get sick? You're not tough enough to hide behind a mask when in public, wussy?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:23 PM (KZzsI)
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82:
"It's like, you fucking idiot, they've already taken everything from you that's worth defending without you even firing a shot, so what fucking good did all the guns do you? And by the way, in the end they're going to take the gun too if they're not stopped, and you probably won't do shit about that either.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?"
Everyone has lines but you are right, organization is necessary. Feel out and know your neighbors. Know when to pull down--this lady may be in jail but she is alive.
Know for certain no one is coming to help you and act accordingly.
"It's like, you fucking idiot, they've already taken everything from you that's worth defending without you even firing a shot, so what fucking good did all the guns do you? And by the way, in the end they're going to take the gun too if they're not stopped, and you probably won't do shit about that either.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?"
Everyone has lines but you are right, organization is necessary. Feel out and know your neighbors. Know when to pull down--this lady may be in jail but she is alive.
Know for certain no one is coming to help you and act accordingly.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:23 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 02, 2020 08:23 PM (aKsyK)
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Those two black gals who accosted the white gal, well, next time it might be someone who's a bit less tolerant. He, or she, will shoot them both, take their phones, destroy them, and leave.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 02, 2020 08:23 PM (WEBkv)
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>>>
Tucker said he got a call from the McCloskeys in St. Louis. The mob is threatening to show up at their home tonight. They called cops who apparently are busy doing other things. They call private security firms and they won't help either. The last one told him to leave the home.
i just saw that.
I don't know what our poltiicians and police think we're going to do.
"Lay down and accept the Racial Vengeance Murder we have coming to us" is not it. They should rethink this.
Tucker said he got a call from the McCloskeys in St. Louis. The mob is threatening to show up at their home tonight. They called cops who apparently are busy doing other things. They call private security firms and they won't help either. The last one told him to leave the home.
i just saw that.
I don't know what our poltiicians and police think we're going to do.
"Lay down and accept the Racial Vengeance Murder we have coming to us" is not it. They should rethink this.
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (PbpT7)
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99 >>>82 "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
Yeah that sounds great until Kim Foxx throws you in prison for the rest of your life, at which point you might as well be dead.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge 2A supporter, but the problem with guns is that they give people--especially naive white boomers--a false sense of security.
I hate to say it, but in a way Obama was right. Atomized, demoralized people cling to their guns like a life preserver, as if that's the only thing that will save them, in the face of an entire leviathan system that wants them dead.
You have these guys like, "Welp, my daughter's a whore on Onlyfans, and my son chopped his dick off, and my church is flying a rainbow flag, and I just got fired from my job because somebody in HR didn't like a tweet I made, and the politicians I voted for sold me out to foreign interests, and basically every fucking institution in my society has been subverted and produces 24/7 propaganda attacking me...but I've got my guns, so watch out!"
It's like, you fucking idiot, they've already taken everything from you that's worth defending without you even firing a shot, so what fucking good did all the guns do you? And by the way, in the end they're going to take the gun too if they're not stopped, and you probably won't do shit about that either.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo
...
this is a real wake-you-up home truth.
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 08:18 PM (PbpT7)
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I knew this as far back as 2009 when the NRA sold out all other conservatives in the Obamacare debate.
The gun nuts aren't going to save anyone, and there won't be any uprising of a well armed citizenry. Because for gun nuts the hill to die on is gun rights, everything else is negotiable.
Yeah that sounds great until Kim Foxx throws you in prison for the rest of your life, at which point you might as well be dead.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge 2A supporter, but the problem with guns is that they give people--especially naive white boomers--a false sense of security.
I hate to say it, but in a way Obama was right. Atomized, demoralized people cling to their guns like a life preserver, as if that's the only thing that will save them, in the face of an entire leviathan system that wants them dead.
You have these guys like, "Welp, my daughter's a whore on Onlyfans, and my son chopped his dick off, and my church is flying a rainbow flag, and I just got fired from my job because somebody in HR didn't like a tweet I made, and the politicians I voted for sold me out to foreign interests, and basically every fucking institution in my society has been subverted and produces 24/7 propaganda attacking me...but I've got my guns, so watch out!"
It's like, you fucking idiot, they've already taken everything from you that's worth defending without you even firing a shot, so what fucking good did all the guns do you? And by the way, in the end they're going to take the gun too if they're not stopped, and you probably won't do shit about that either.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo
...
this is a real wake-you-up home truth.
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 08:18 PM (PbpT7)
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I knew this as far back as 2009 when the NRA sold out all other conservatives in the Obamacare debate.
The gun nuts aren't going to save anyone, and there won't be any uprising of a well armed citizenry. Because for gun nuts the hill to die on is gun rights, everything else is negotiable.
Posted by: MAGA at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (+kAOF)
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I think the white lady handled it perfectly. She tried to avoid confrontation until the she couldn't, armed herself, used good technique and when they stopped advancing she left.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (r+sAi)
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Tucker said he got a call from the McCloskeys in St. Louis. The mob is threatening to show up at their home tonight. They called cops who apparently are busy doing other things. They call private security firms and they won't help either. The last one told him to leave the home.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
Sounds like the Battle of Helms Deep.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
Sounds like the Battle of Helms Deep.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (PNt4R)
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The black woman said, "I'll beat your white ass, too" to the man. It
sounded like the black lady hit their car or the woman with a slap (the
video goes weird and you can't see much for a few seconds but you hear a thump, the white woman was inside the car, and then out)
and then the white woman drew her gun.
Both the husband and wife were arrested! They both have permits for their guns.
What about the threats by the loud mouthed woman who threatened the couple, hit the vehicle, and blocked their exit? If people were arrested, why wasn't that woman arrested also?
sounded like the black lady hit their car or the woman with a slap (the
video goes weird and you can't see much for a few seconds but you hear a thump, the white woman was inside the car, and then out)
and then the white woman drew her gun.
Both the husband and wife were arrested! They both have permits for their guns.
What about the threats by the loud mouthed woman who threatened the couple, hit the vehicle, and blocked their exit? If people were arrested, why wasn't that woman arrested also?
Posted by: Ann at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (NDO5Q)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (Z+IKu)
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Philly resident here - Thank you Wyatt for putting up with all this shit day in & day out.
Posted by: The Joker at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (Izzlo)
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Portland's Elk is the symbol of The Hartford Insurance, epitomy of the evil capitalist structure.
Posted by: Downcast, feeling like I am getting the runaround at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (s5B/F)
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They have to know what happens when the police will not or cannot enforce the law, right? They have to know what happens next.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:21 PM (KZzsI)
That tells me they have a position on the board for that eventuality. I mean the ability to punish only us.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:21 PM (KZzsI)
That tells me they have a position on the board for that eventuality. I mean the ability to punish only us.
Posted by: The Barrel at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (uEbPt)
140
Tucker said he got a call from the McCloskeys in St. Louis. The mob is threatening to show up at their home tonight. They called cops who apparently are busy doing other things. They call private security firms and they won't help either. The last one told him to leave the home.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
At that point everything is fair game. You asked the cops for help, they said no. Put up a big sign and say that deadly force will be used to protect their lives- warn the mob in advance.
You drop five or six of those shitbirds as they attack and they will leave. Or it'll be an epic Alamo re-creation scene.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
At that point everything is fair game. You asked the cops for help, they said no. Put up a big sign and say that deadly force will be used to protect their lives- warn the mob in advance.
You drop five or six of those shitbirds as they attack and they will leave. Or it'll be an epic Alamo re-creation scene.
Posted by: Ballz und Sheft at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (xyImL)
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Never pull unless you intend to use. Brandishing is against the law in most places.
Posted by: Javems at July 02, 2020 07:53 PM (ofIwF)
She IS using it to keep a threat at bay. Like hundreds of thousands of times per year per several estimates. In fact it is the best use, because it doesn't end in injury or death.
I know some will quibble with that, but we aren't morons for nothing.
Posted by: Javems at July 02, 2020 07:53 PM (ofIwF)
She IS using it to keep a threat at bay. Like hundreds of thousands of times per year per several estimates. In fact it is the best use, because it doesn't end in injury or death.
I know some will quibble with that, but we aren't morons for nothing.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (z79tQ)
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You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at July 02, 2020 08:14 PM (b6uXy)
So what you are saying is that when a war is being waged against you and yours, people are lying to you when they spout off individualism as the ultimate virtue? It's almost as if this was done on purpose or something.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at July 02, 2020 08:14 PM (b6uXy)
So what you are saying is that when a war is being waged against you and yours, people are lying to you when they spout off individualism as the ultimate virtue? It's almost as if this was done on purpose or something.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (cFwh0)
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Michigan is a stand your ground state.
There is no duty to retreat here, as long as you are lawfully allowed in the place that you are.
There is no duty to retreat here, as long as you are lawfully allowed in the place that you are.
Posted by: iron308 at July 02, 2020 08:25 PM (AvFGh)
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>>>You know, anyone in a physical altercation has a duty to retreat before using force.
This is incorrect. It depends on state law. If you are the initial aggressor, it becomes complicated if you ultimately escalate with the deadly force. Such does not apply here.
This is incorrect. It depends on state law. If you are the initial aggressor, it becomes complicated if you ultimately escalate with the deadly force. Such does not apply here.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 02, 2020 08:25 PM (KnJdm)
145
About 25 states have SYG laws. Others in effect have SYG law by precedent, although not explicitly written. I guess in short, know your state and local laws and precedent regarding use of deadly force.
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at July 02, 2020 08:25 PM (IBMDj)
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Man, it's fkn helter skelter. At least that Manson asshole started roasting before it happened.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (X+hGU)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (HAMha)
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She IS using it to keep a threat at bay. Like hundreds of thousands of times per year per several estimates. In fact it is the best use, because it doesn't end in injury or death.
I know some will quibble with that, but we aren't morons for nothing.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (z79tQ)
A gun isn't a fucking Hatori Hanzo blade, for fuck's sakes.
I know some will quibble with that, but we aren't morons for nothing.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (z79tQ)
A gun isn't a fucking Hatori Hanzo blade, for fuck's sakes.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (6FeV1)
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I like the second video. Pray America. Yes.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (lwiT4)
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No civil war. Maybe some shootiness, but after that, mostly de facto separation/extra caution. In some places.
Many places are not much caught up in the racism of BLM, the Dems, the vile black "leaders" who are nothing but race hustlers. People get along just fine.
Many places are not much caught up in the racism of BLM, the Dems, the vile black "leaders" who are nothing but race hustlers. People get along just fine.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (El6T/)
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You know, if a large Itialian man and his crew were
going around my neighborhood, I think I would prefer to pay him than
the police.
At least he has an incentive to keep me alive
The cops?
They've made their choice. They'll get no more support from me.
As the saying goes, their silence-- defending liberty and freedom-- is violence
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 02, 2020 08:07 PM (aO8Gd)
As I said last night. Cops better make a choice and soon, because as I see it they are going to put themselves in a position where BOTH sides of the country are going to hate them. Not a good place to be, and it seems more and more they are arresting normal citizens who didn't ask for any of this shit. Burn a building hey cool, try and protect the building, jail. Go ahead, become the stazi. This isn't fucking germany.
going around my neighborhood, I think I would prefer to pay him than
the police.
At least he has an incentive to keep me alive
The cops?
They've made their choice. They'll get no more support from me.
As the saying goes, their silence-- defending liberty and freedom-- is violence
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 02, 2020 08:07 PM (aO8Gd)
As I said last night. Cops better make a choice and soon, because as I see it they are going to put themselves in a position where BOTH sides of the country are going to hate them. Not a good place to be, and it seems more and more they are arresting normal citizens who didn't ask for any of this shit. Burn a building hey cool, try and protect the building, jail. Go ahead, become the stazi. This isn't fucking germany.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (9Om/r)
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>>>Philly resident here - Thank you Wyatt for putting up with all this shit day in & day out.
Thanks, but I'm effectively a secretary with a gun. I am, however, embarrassed with all the terrible positions most police departments are embracing now. You're all right to be angry, because we're not doing our jobs.
Thanks, but I'm effectively a secretary with a gun. I am, however, embarrassed with all the terrible positions most police departments are embracing now. You're all right to be angry, because we're not doing our jobs.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (PhAkB)
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I know there are a lot of internet tough guys who are grumbling all civil war but that's not what happens next if it goes bad. There aren't going to be militias and uniforms and armies facing off in fields or any of that crap like last time. Its not going to be "war" in the sense of any previous war.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (KZzsI)
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No. This is worse than being on our own with no help from police. We are on our own and the police are backing up the bad guys.
No, I don't have a good solution. Like I keep saying, those all expired a long time ago.
No, I don't have a good solution. Like I keep saying, those all expired a long time ago.
Posted by: Brother Tim at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (iKMuO)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (luzVb)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (NWiLs)
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McCloskeys in St. Louis should go stay at the DA's house.
And take their new 'friends' with them.
And take their new 'friends' with them.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (1g7ch)
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"140 Tucker said he got a call from the McCloskeys in St. Louis. The mob is threatening to show up at their home tonight. They called cops who apparently are busy doing other things. They call private security firms and they won't help either. The last one told him to leave the home.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
At that point everything is fair game. You asked the cops for help, they said no. Put up a big sign and say that deadly force will be used to protect their lives- warn the mob in advance.
You drop five or six of those shitbirds as they attack and they will leave. Or it'll be an epic Alamo re-creation scene."
Oh, the police will show up when the McCloskeys drop one of these communist pigs. Only then.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
At that point everything is fair game. You asked the cops for help, they said no. Put up a big sign and say that deadly force will be used to protect their lives- warn the mob in advance.
You drop five or six of those shitbirds as they attack and they will leave. Or it'll be an epic Alamo re-creation scene."
Oh, the police will show up when the McCloskeys drop one of these communist pigs. Only then.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (puu6v)
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When the right (so called) turned its back on George Zimmerman, what did you think was going to happen?
Posted by: WTP at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (HA2LH)
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You, wiping your chin! Quit blowing the margins!
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (X+hGU)
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116 Thanks, Christopher!
Posted by: April, Freedom Now! at July 02, 2020 08:28 PM (OX9vb)
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156 Holy. Mother. Fuck.
Carry heavy, people.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (NWiLs)
The Paolo, he is way ahead of you
Carry heavy, people.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (NWiLs)
The Paolo, he is way ahead of you
Posted by: The Paolo at July 02, 2020 08:28 PM (Izzlo)
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>>>Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
as tim pool points out -- that's what most civil wars are. The American Civil War is an exception as it was almost all regular, organized warfare.
as tim pool points out -- that's what most civil wars are. The American Civil War is an exception as it was almost all regular, organized warfare.
Posted by: ace at July 02, 2020 08:28 PM (PbpT7)
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According to a report five hours ago by WXYZ, the ABC affiliate in Detroit, the local district attorney's office has charged both the woman and her husband with felony assault.
Posted by: A Lurker Delurking at July 02, 2020 08:28 PM (VoHu8)
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Brandishing a weapon to deescalate a position and protect yourself without anyone getting hurt sounds like an excellent use of a weapon to me. And an amazing amount of admirable restraint so far.
But that restraint won't last if they keep pushing.
But that restraint won't last if they keep pushing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:28 PM (KZzsI)
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This may be an asshole observation, but they may have picked the pregnant lady because she was non-threatening. She was unlikely to have a gun.
She turned out to have one, which is a good thing for her.
She turned out to have one, which is a good thing for her.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 02, 2020 08:28 PM (2B9A/)
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Tucker said he got a call from the McCloskeys in St. Louis. The mob is threatening to show up at their home tonight. They called cops who apparently are busy doing other things. They call private security firms and they won't help either. The last one told him to leave the home.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
Sounds like the Battle of Helms Deep.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker
Call 911 back and ask for the City Sanitation Department's number so they can come collect the trash.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
Sounds like the Battle of Helms Deep.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker
Call 911 back and ask for the City Sanitation Department's number so they can come collect the trash.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 02, 2020 08:28 PM (ycxIH)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 02, 2020 08:28 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2020 08:29 PM (lJ4Cz)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 02, 2020 08:29 PM (r+sAi)
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>>You drop five or six of those shitbirds as they attack and they will leave. Or it'll be an epic Alamo re-creation scene."
The St. Louis incident is a guideline. They drew weapons and the first thing the "leader" of the mob said was, "Keep moving."
I assume holstered weapons would also do the trick.
The St. Louis incident is a guideline. They drew weapons and the first thing the "leader" of the mob said was, "Keep moving."
I assume holstered weapons would also do the trick.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:29 PM (PhAkB)
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If the South had won, we wouldn't call it "the Civil War". We'd call it "The Confederate Revolution" or some-such.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 02, 2020 08:29 PM (6FeV1)
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There aren't going to be militias and uniforms and armies facing off in fields or any of that crap like last time. Its not going to be "war" in the sense of any previous war.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM
you are correct, Sir
it's going to be the Balkans, writ large
There aren't going to be militias and uniforms and armies facing off in fields or any of that crap like last time. Its not going to be "war" in the sense of any previous war.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM
you are correct, Sir
it's going to be the Balkans, writ large
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 02, 2020 08:29 PM (HAMha)
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Hope those racist white supremacist crackers in that last video are up for getting stabbed.
Posted by: Stephen Skubinna at July 02, 2020 08:29 PM (SCptR)
175
About 25 states have SYG laws. Others in effect
have SYG law by precedent, although not explicitly written. I guess in
short, know your state and local laws and precedent regarding use of
deadly force.
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at July 02, 2020 08:25 PM (IBMDj)
Sorry, but TPTB are making that impossible. If they won't enforce the laws, then the laws are void. It doesn't matter that they only want to enforce them on one side.
have SYG law by precedent, although not explicitly written. I guess in
short, know your state and local laws and precedent regarding use of
deadly force.
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at July 02, 2020 08:25 PM (IBMDj)
Sorry, but TPTB are making that impossible. If they won't enforce the laws, then the laws are void. It doesn't matter that they only want to enforce them on one side.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at July 02, 2020 08:29 PM (J70i0)
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Pure setup to get a reaction and then use that for justification for whatever the end state was...Mostly being "the victim"...Always amazed that people think it's just fine and dandy to go up to people and scream in their face and then act all surprised when they push back and then pretend they're the victim..
Posted by: Sua Sponte at July 02, 2020 08:30 PM (cdNcj)
177
You know - there are a hell of a lot of places where you do not have a duty to retreat.
And even if you're somewhere that requires it - fuck it. Wanna' be a second class citizen the rest of your life ?
And even if you're somewhere that requires it - fuck it. Wanna' be a second class citizen the rest of your life ?
Posted by: Political Mad Libs at July 02, 2020 08:30 PM (d6PIl)
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153 I know there are a lot of internet tough guys who are grumbling all civil war but that's not what happens next if it goes bad. There aren't going to be militias and uniforms and armies facing off in fields or any of that crap like last time. Its not going to be "war" in the sense of any previous war.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (KZzsI)
We would be remiss to think a foreign country isn't keeping notes on potential attacks of cities. We're already divided. Half their work is done.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (KZzsI)
We would be remiss to think a foreign country isn't keeping notes on potential attacks of cities. We're already divided. Half their work is done.
Posted by: Ballz und Sheft at July 02, 2020 08:30 PM (xyImL)
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176 Pure setup to get a reaction and then use that for justification for whatever the end state was...Mostly being "the victim"...Always amazed that people think it's just fine and dandy to go up to people and scream in their face and then act all surprised when they push back and then pretend they're the victim..
Posted by: Sua Sponte at July 02, 2020 08:30 PM (cdNcj)
Women do this to men a LOT because they know they won't get punched in the face.
Posted by: Sua Sponte at July 02, 2020 08:30 PM (cdNcj)
Women do this to men a LOT because they know they won't get punched in the face.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (NWiLs)
180
Tucker said he got a call from the McCloskeys in St. Louis. The mob is threatening to show up at their home tonight. They called cops who apparently are busy doing other things. They call private security firms and they won't help either. The last one told him to leave the home.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
At that point everything is fair game. You asked the cops for help, they said no. Put up a big sign and say that deadly force will be used to protect their lives- warn the mob in advance.
You drop five or six of those shitbirds as they attack and they will leave. Or it'll be an epic Alamo re-creation scene."
Oh, the police will show up when the McCloskeys drop one of these communist pigs. Only then.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (puu6v)
These two are/were registered dems, right?
Maybe we have 2 new Trump supporters.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (S67j9)
At that point everything is fair game. You asked the cops for help, they said no. Put up a big sign and say that deadly force will be used to protect their lives- warn the mob in advance.
You drop five or six of those shitbirds as they attack and they will leave. Or it'll be an epic Alamo re-creation scene."
Oh, the police will show up when the McCloskeys drop one of these communist pigs. Only then.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (puu6v)
These two are/were registered dems, right?
Maybe we have 2 new Trump supporters.
Posted by: LASue at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Foreign virus, homeless camps, COVID, meth, Bernie Goetz
No one's allowed on the shores, Hong Kong's under martial law
Cucks all in a Twitter war, I can't take it anymoreeeeeee
No one's allowed on the shores, Hong Kong's under martial law
Cucks all in a Twitter war, I can't take it anymoreeeeeee
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (icI8A)
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (X+hGU)
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Ace, another one I saw on ABC news tonight. A cop in the Miami-Dade airport punches a black woman.
ABC plays the video, no sound, and quick enough to lead you to believe that he's white. Looks like they lightened it up, too.
Go to Daily Mail, watch the video, she's saying to him, "You're really BLACK but you're acting white! What're you gonna do?"
Daily Mail names him, unlike American media, says he's a black man of Puerto Rican descent.
tinyurl.com/yas68cdj
ABC plays the video, no sound, and quick enough to lead you to believe that he's white. Looks like they lightened it up, too.
Go to Daily Mail, watch the video, she's saying to him, "You're really BLACK but you're acting white! What're you gonna do?"
Daily Mail names him, unlike American media, says he's a black man of Puerto Rican descent.
tinyurl.com/yas68cdj
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (lW69B)
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Just wondering. If an organization of friends went to see a Soros DA, and outnumbered the security detail, would the security detail stand down?
A tactical unit could probably do that, without police loss.
A tactical unit could probably do that, without police loss.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (u82oZ)
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>>>Look it up, Officer.
Happens often in my division. Road rage turns into a ramming, and we'll charge for assault - simple or agg - depending upon the injuries.
Happens often in my division. Road rage turns into a ramming, and we'll charge for assault - simple or agg - depending upon the injuries.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (PhAkB)
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The mini van people are from St. Louis. They had CPL and their weapons were legal. For everyone who is claiming this dumb Dirty Harry wannabe was in the right she is facing felonious assault with a weapon charge which may land her in federal prison for four years. She was not in danger when she got into the vehicle and she became the aggressor when she got out and whipped out the gun. Unless the black women ask for charges to be dropped she is in a world of hurt. Both she and hubby are currently in the Oakland county jail awaiting arraignment.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (crlL8)
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (IYHxL)
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I know there are a lot of internet tough guys who are grumbling all
civil war but that's not what happens next if it goes bad. There aren't
going to be militias and uniforms and armies facing off in fields or
any of that crap like last time. Its not going to be "war" in the sense
of any previous war.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (KZzsI)
Yup, exactly. Its going to be a cleansing action.
I know there are a lot of internet tough guys who are grumbling all
civil war but that's not what happens next if it goes bad. There aren't
going to be militias and uniforms and armies facing off in fields or
any of that crap like last time. Its not going to be "war" in the sense
of any previous war.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (KZzsI)
Yup, exactly. Its going to be a cleansing action.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (9Om/r)
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>>> Just wondering. If an organization of friends went to see a Soros DA, and outnumbered the security detail, would the security detail stand down?
Literally the only people in this city who like our Soros DA are the politicians and the thugs. But the bad hoods outnumber the good ones, so Krasner will be reelected in a landslide.
Literally the only people in this city who like our Soros DA are the politicians and the thugs. But the bad hoods outnumber the good ones, so Krasner will be reelected in a landslide.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (PhAkB)
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The gun nuts aren't going to save anyone, and there won't be any uprising of a well armed citizenry. Because for gun nuts the hill to die on is gun rights, everything else is negotiable.
Posted by: MAGA at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (+kAOF)
What do you have left when it comes down to it ?
Posted by: MAGA at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (+kAOF)
What do you have left when it comes down to it ?
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (M+Lyo)
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The sick part of this is these idiots were harassing this woman for their GD social media fame.
They kept pushing and pushing, and all they were seeing was "see us put this white racist cracker woman in her place" on their twatter and FB.
They kept pushing and pushing, and all they were seeing was "see us put this white racist cracker woman in her place" on their twatter and FB.
Posted by: clutch cargo at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (8B6Ng)
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GOP, baby.
Getting shit DONE!!
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast
Indiana Republican Governor was supposed to completely open the state yesterday but extended the last phase of lockdown for #twoweeks instead.
GOP, baby.
Getting shit DONE!!
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast
Indiana Republican Governor was supposed to completely open the state yesterday but extended the last phase of lockdown for #twoweeks instead.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (aKsyK)
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I have a pocket full of money, no papers, and an empty hand. Simple instructions on what minimal paperwork is needed, where to find it, who to run it past, and how to get to the point where I can empty my wallet and fill my holster. (Ignoring the wait period)
Posted by: Downcast, feeling like I am getting the runaround at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (s5B/F)
If you are serious, then understand the state you live in has specific laws.
Go to a gun retailer and talk with them. I promise they will help you, easy-peasy. They know all the specifics relevant to you.
And yes, you will have a waiting period from the time you fill out your gubbermint paperwork and the time you are allowed to pick up the gun. Thank the Democrats and the UniParty for that.
Got it?
Posted by: Downcast, feeling like I am getting the runaround at July 02, 2020 08:22 PM (s5B/F)
If you are serious, then understand the state you live in has specific laws.
Go to a gun retailer and talk with them. I promise they will help you, easy-peasy. They know all the specifics relevant to you.
And yes, you will have a waiting period from the time you fill out your gubbermint paperwork and the time you are allowed to pick up the gun. Thank the Democrats and the UniParty for that.
Got it?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (sy5kK)
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153 I know there are a lot of internet tough guys who are grumbling all civil war but that's not what happens next if it goes bad. There aren't going to be militias and uniforms and armies facing off in fields or any of that crap like last time. Its not going to be "war" in the sense of any previous war.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (KZzsI)
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That's what I think. It's going to be loosely organized at best. Somebody will put out a manifesto that will put everyone on notice about what will get you killed.
You allow rioters in a white neighborhood, police chief is dead. You let off rioters scot-free, the DA is dead.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (KZzsI)
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That's what I think. It's going to be loosely organized at best. Somebody will put out a manifesto that will put everyone on notice about what will get you killed.
You allow rioters in a white neighborhood, police chief is dead. You let off rioters scot-free, the DA is dead.
Posted by: MAGA at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (+kAOF)
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I acknowledge that this is very serious, but I do want to encourage my big-city fellow Morons and state that this mess is NOT happening in my small city.
In other words, there are still a lot of normal people in the US.
In other words, there are still a lot of normal people in the US.
Posted by: Emmie at July 02, 2020 08:33 PM (clsJu)
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As I said last night. Cops better make a choice and
soon, because as I see it they are going to put themselves in a position
where BOTH sides of the country are going to hate them. Not a good
place to be, and it seems more and more they are arresting normal
citizens who didn't ask for any of this shit. Burn a building hey cool,
try and protect the building, jail. Go ahead, become the stazi. This
isn't fucking germany.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (9Om/r)
After all of the shit the police have been through for the last month from the MFM, mobs and politicians you'd think they'd realize very few people have their backs and burning the last bridges of good will they might have is not a good idea. So they will arrest people for defending themselves or let the McCloskeys get killed tonight for what? Their pensions that are bankrupt?
soon, because as I see it they are going to put themselves in a position
where BOTH sides of the country are going to hate them. Not a good
place to be, and it seems more and more they are arresting normal
citizens who didn't ask for any of this shit. Burn a building hey cool,
try and protect the building, jail. Go ahead, become the stazi. This
isn't fucking germany.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (9Om/r)
After all of the shit the police have been through for the last month from the MFM, mobs and politicians you'd think they'd realize very few people have their backs and burning the last bridges of good will they might have is not a good idea. So they will arrest people for defending themselves or let the McCloskeys get killed tonight for what? Their pensions that are bankrupt?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:33 PM (S67j9)
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>>Happens often in my division. Road rage turns into a ramming, and we'll charge for assault - simple or agg - depending upon the injuries.
The only reason they didn't charge that woman was that it would preclude them charging the Gun Owner.
The only reason they didn't charge that woman was that it would preclude them charging the Gun Owner.
Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2020 08:33 PM (wJMQd)
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Everyone who saw that on ABC news now believes that was a white cop punching a black woman. Just as they wanted.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at July 02, 2020 08:33 PM (lW69B)
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186 The mini van people are from St. Louis. They had CPL and their weapons were legal. For everyone who is claiming this dumb Dirty Harry wannabe was in the right she is facing felonious assault with a weapon charge which may land her in federal prison for four years. She was not in danger when she got into the vehicle and she became the aggressor when she got out and whipped out the gun. Unless the black women ask for charges to be dropped she is in a world of hurt. Both she and hubby are currently in the Oakland county jail awaiting arraignment.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (crlL
If that's the case, then take no plea bargain. Make the state go to trial and roll the dice with the jury.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (crlL
If that's the case, then take no plea bargain. Make the state go to trial and roll the dice with the jury.
Posted by: Ballz und Sheft at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (xyImL)
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The white woman was arrested.
Because of course.
The cops have decided to make us each fight for our own lives.
*****
The hell of it is...I *do* find myself thinking that the cops will arrest people from defending themselves against this sort of aggression.
(Yeah, I know I should wait 72 hours to see if more evidence arises that could justify this arrest...but right now it looks like a bad arrest. I'm sure it's a *legal* arrest, but I don't know if it is one that I respect as a *righteous* arrest.)
Because of course.
The cops have decided to make us each fight for our own lives.
*****
The hell of it is...I *do* find myself thinking that the cops will arrest people from defending themselves against this sort of aggression.
(Yeah, I know I should wait 72 hours to see if more evidence arises that could justify this arrest...but right now it looks like a bad arrest. I'm sure it's a *legal* arrest, but I don't know if it is one that I respect as a *righteous* arrest.)
Posted by: El Jefe ~ Blue Zones POW MIA ~ You Are Not Forgotten ~ at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (Ae67h)
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@155
Why that's the most CONservative GOP legislation since the Light Bulb Ban.
Certainly not as CONservative as The Patriot Act but right up there.
I am surprised the base renaming legislation isn't called the EABOD ACT: Erasing All Bad And Offensive Democrats.
Might be too on the nose.
Why that's the most CONservative GOP legislation since the Light Bulb Ban.
Certainly not as CONservative as The Patriot Act but right up there.
I am surprised the base renaming legislation isn't called the EABOD ACT: Erasing All Bad And Offensive Democrats.
Might be too on the nose.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (JcakY)
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At some point somebody is going to have to use deadly force to defend themselves and knowing that they will go to prison because of the corrupt justice system the will decide that if they are going to go to prison for one then they may as well get their money's worth and take out a whole crop of them.
At some point somebody is going to have to use deadly force to defend themselves and knowing that they will go to prison because of the corrupt justice system the will decide that if they are going to go to prison for one then they may as well get their money's worth and take out a whole crop of them.
Posted by: Mongo at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (23TvB)
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And yeah, we're not going to have uniforms and battlefields. This is fucking Hutu vs Tutsi shit. Someone says "Cut down the tall trees" and that's when shit gets real.
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (icI8A)
204
When the body count gets high enough, this shit will stop.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (cCxiu)
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You are now a 2nd class citizen as a white person and confronted by a crazy black woman. Withdraw as fast as possible. They know the game better than you do. Stay cool and leave. Don't argue with fools in public.
Posted by: azalea city at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (WX+x0)
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Are there any red cities? I feel like they are all blue controlled these days. Fort worth has a republican mayor but still dropped all charges against rioters.
Posted by: brak at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (cG+eD)
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190 The gun nuts aren't going to save anyone, and there won't be any uprising of a well armed citizenry. Because for gun nuts the hill to die on is gun rights, everything else is negotiable.
Posted by: MAGA at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (+kAOF)
What do you have left when it comes down to it ?
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (M+Lyo)
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What good is a gun is everything else is given up?
Posted by: MAGA at July 02, 2020 08:24 PM (+kAOF)
What do you have left when it comes down to it ?
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (M+Lyo)
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What good is a gun is everything else is given up?
Posted by: MAGA at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (+kAOF)
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Of course, in 2020, you can't say "We Didn't Start The Fire," because, um, they did. Lots of them.
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at July 02, 2020 08:35 PM (icI8A)
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@186...lawyers should be lining up to defend her. Pregnant, with that video? Good luck getting a jury...a professionally selected jury...to convict. The local prosecutor's desk this lands on crew the short straw. Plea to reckless endangerment, if the prosecutor's lucky.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 02, 2020 08:35 PM (ja/kn)
210
Yet another reminder that cell phones and social media are going to be the death of us all. May need to take an ax to that tree.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at July 02, 2020 08:35 PM (X+hGU)
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Oh, the police will show up when the McCloskeys drop one of these communist pigs. Only then.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (puu6v)
I would let the police know they are free to remove the bodies, but I am not getting arrested. They had their opportunity to prevent the situation.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (puu6v)
I would let the police know they are free to remove the bodies, but I am not getting arrested. They had their opportunity to prevent the situation.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at July 02, 2020 08:35 PM (J70i0)
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204 When the body count gets high enough, this shit will stop.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (cCxiu)
You keep telling yourself that, General Grant.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (cCxiu)
You keep telling yourself that, General Grant.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 02, 2020 08:35 PM (6FeV1)
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Jen the original bringing the detail. I haven't even watched the video, probably won't (I'm disgusted enough with the degradation of America). Of course there'd be a trial and then the actions of the others would come in, I assume, and ......
Posted by: rhomboid at July 02, 2020 08:35 PM (El6T/)
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Arm yourselves, know the law, and remember it's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:09 PM (PhAkB)
*****
I hear you, brother.
The hell of it is, what's the point of knowing the law if it isn't going to be applied?
Stay safe.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:09 PM (PhAkB)
*****
I hear you, brother.
The hell of it is, what's the point of knowing the law if it isn't going to be applied?
Stay safe.
Posted by: El Jefe ~ Blue Zones POW MIA ~ You Are Not Forgotten ~ at July 02, 2020 08:35 PM (Ae67h)
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"She was not in danger when she got into the vehicle and she became the aggressor when she got out and whipped out the gun."
I have to agree with this. I know the first aggressor hit her car, but my gosh, just drive away from them, then assess the damage. A dent made by someone's punch isn't worth all the grief they are now facing.
Separation is key now. How sad is that?!
I have to agree with this. I know the first aggressor hit her car, but my gosh, just drive away from them, then assess the damage. A dent made by someone's punch isn't worth all the grief they are now facing.
Separation is key now. How sad is that?!
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:35 PM (L3Rsz)
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Posted by: Shiggz at July 02, 2020 07:54 PM (Ebnn6)
Stop lurking long enough to blow the margins. Thanks asshole.
Stop lurking long enough to blow the margins. Thanks asshole.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 02, 2020 08:36 PM (dNzKv)
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The hell of it is...I *do* find myself thinking that the cops will arrest people from defending themselves against this sort of aggression.
Depends on where you are at.
But if you are in one of those areas - why in the Hell is getting less police bad ? Less police gives you more chance to defend yourself. Less chance of getting caught getting the tools to do so.
Depends on where you are at.
But if you are in one of those areas - why in the Hell is getting less police bad ? Less police gives you more chance to defend yourself. Less chance of getting caught getting the tools to do so.
Posted by: Political Mad Libs at July 02, 2020 08:36 PM (d6PIl)
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>>>The only reason they didn't charge that woman was that it would preclude them charging the Gun Owner.
Correct. No way these charges stick, IMO, but I really hope some lawyer helps her, pro bono.
Correct. No way these charges stick, IMO, but I really hope some lawyer helps her, pro bono.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:36 PM (PhAkB)
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"186 The mini van people are from St. Louis. They had CPL and their weapons were legal. For everyone who is claiming this dumb Dirty Harry wannabe was in the right she is facing felonious assault with a weapon charge which may land her in federal prison for four years. She was not in danger when she got into the vehicle and she became the aggressor when she got out and whipped out the gun. Unless the black women ask for charges to be dropped she is in a world of hurt. Both she and hubby are currently in the Oakland county jail awaiting arraignment."
Her vehicle kept being rammed. She might not have lived if the gun hadn't been available.
Her vehicle kept being rammed. She might not have lived if the gun hadn't been available.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:36 PM (puu6v)
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Call on the white courtesy phone, Mr. Paul Kersey - you have a message waiting for you.
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at July 02, 2020 08:37 PM (icI8A)
221
Nood
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable, Duke of Seattle A-Number 1 at July 02, 2020 08:37 PM (SfYbS)
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>>The mini van people are from St. Louis. They had CPL and their weapons were legal. For everyone who is claiming this dumb Dirty Harry wannabe was in the right she is facing felonious assault with a weapon charge which may land her in federal prison for four years. She was not in danger when she got into the vehicle and she became the aggressor when she got out and whipped out the gun.
If someone assaults you with a vehicle, in your vehicle or out of it, that is Deadly Force in most places I have bothered to look.
At that point, drawing a weapon is justified.
If someone assaults you with a vehicle, in your vehicle or out of it, that is Deadly Force in most places I have bothered to look.
At that point, drawing a weapon is justified.
Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2020 08:37 PM (wJMQd)
Posted by: eleven at July 02, 2020 08:37 PM (XTyi0)
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that woman knew what was up and it was a setup from the start. It'n not like there aren't 100's of videos online of racially motivated attacks on social medias to view. It's not like this tactic of approaching white women (and men) to start a fight to film and get put on the internet or bait them into saying a gamer word hasn't been leaked to the public a month ago. It's not like there is no pattern of consistent behavior to observe.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at July 02, 2020 08:37 PM (cFwh0)
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The mini van people are from St. Louis. They had CPL and their weapons were legal. For everyone who is claiming this dumb Dirty Harry wannabe was in the right she is facing felonious assault with a weapon charge which may land her in federal prison for four years. She was not in danger when she got into the vehicle and she became the aggressor when she got out and whipped out the gun. Unless the black women ask for charges to be dropped she is in a world of hurt. Both she and hubby are currently in the Oakland county jail awaiting arraignment.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (crlL
If that's the case, then take no plea bargain. Make the state go to trial and roll the dice with the jury.
Posted by: Ballz und Sheft at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (xyImL)
She wasn't in danger?
Didnt someone just assault her car, which at least in Texas, is considered an extension of your person.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (crlL
If that's the case, then take no plea bargain. Make the state go to trial and roll the dice with the jury.
Posted by: Ballz und Sheft at July 02, 2020 08:34 PM (xyImL)
She wasn't in danger?
Didnt someone just assault her car, which at least in Texas, is considered an extension of your person.
Posted by: LASue at July 02, 2020 08:37 PM (Ed8Zd)
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91 I agree ace, they have days not weeks to try and put this back in the bottle. I don't think they can.
Posted by: Pliney at July 02, 2020 08:16 PM (nzKWW)
I think that bottle's floating down the Rubicon
Posted by: Pliney at July 02, 2020 08:16 PM (nzKWW)
I think that bottle's floating down the Rubicon
Posted by: Russkilitlover at July 02, 2020 08:38 PM (99Nt9)
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Tom Cotton's NDAA legislation
https://tinyurl.com/y82nl334
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (luzVb)
Thank you.
This might just be a Parliamentary procedure, but that's frankly become far too convenient of a camouflage. Even Johnson and Lankford are apparently trying to claim that, now.
https://tinyurl.com/y82nl334
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (luzVb)
Thank you.
This might just be a Parliamentary procedure, but that's frankly become far too convenient of a camouflage. Even Johnson and Lankford are apparently trying to claim that, now.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at July 02, 2020 08:38 PM (hfClf)
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Currently, it costs the U.S. Mint 1.66 cents to make each one-cent coin, meaning that taxpayers are losing 0.66 of a cent for each one of the 9.1 billion pennies the Mint produces each year. That is a loss of $60,181,440 to produce pennies in 2016. The U.S. Mint makes an average of 21 million pennies per day which adds up to around nine billion pennies annually. If we just get rid of the penny, the U.S. Mint would cut its work in half. This figure does not include the time, fuel, expense, and hassle of carting all of those pennies around to the banks, merchants, etc.
Why do they make so many? Law says they have to make them, but do they have to crank them out as fast as the machines will run?
Why do they make so many? Law says they have to make them, but do they have to crank them out as fast as the machines will run?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 02, 2020 08:38 PM (dNzKv)
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I I D
Posted by: Ben Had at July 02, 2020 08:38 PM (fDqh9)
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Liberals want this to turn into a race war.
They want Americans to hate each other.
Ask them why.
Ask them who benefits.
They want Americans to hate each other.
Ask them why.
Ask them who benefits.
Posted by: Mongo at July 02, 2020 08:38 PM (23TvB)
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"Indiana Republican Governor was supposed to completely open the state yesterday but extended the last phase of lockdown for #twoweeks instead."
2 weeks, meaning 45 days. Same as the last time the feckless moron locked us down for 2 weeks. Will be interesting to see if the 500 (with 50% attendance) happens on 8/23.
2 weeks, meaning 45 days. Same as the last time the feckless moron locked us down for 2 weeks. Will be interesting to see if the 500 (with 50% attendance) happens on 8/23.
Posted by: Mookie at July 02, 2020 08:38 PM (3vIkC)
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every problem/adversity one encounters in life is PROOF OF WHITE RACISM. asshats. you victims are heading to destruction.
Posted by: projection on steroids at July 02, 2020 08:38 PM (V9NdA)
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Daily Mail names him, unlike American media, says he's a black man of Puerto Rican descent.
tinyurl.com/yas68cdj
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (lW69B)
And the DM is pretty far left as is. They push the same agenda as their American counterparts. They just have longer articles and sometimes news our media filters out.
Honestly, the media needs to be the first victims if there's some shooting. If they were gone, and social media was put in their place, we'd have a return to normalcy in a matter of months.
The latest Time ragazine cover had me spitting mad standing in line at the grocery checkout today.
tinyurl.com/yas68cdj
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at July 02, 2020 08:31 PM (lW69B)
And the DM is pretty far left as is. They push the same agenda as their American counterparts. They just have longer articles and sometimes news our media filters out.
Honestly, the media needs to be the first victims if there's some shooting. If they were gone, and social media was put in their place, we'd have a return to normalcy in a matter of months.
The latest Time ragazine cover had me spitting mad standing in line at the grocery checkout today.
Posted by: clutch cargo at July 02, 2020 08:39 PM (8B6Ng)
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I know there are a lot of internet tough guys who are grumbling all civil war but that's not what happens next if it goes bad. There aren't going to be militias and uniforms and armies facing off in fields or any of that crap like last time. Its not going to be "war" in the sense of any previous war.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (KZzsI)
Pretty much.
I would also like to point out many tactical and logistical lessons could be learned from the DC Sniper case.
Its going to be just people going underground and going down a list.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 02, 2020 08:26 PM (KZzsI)
Pretty much.
I would also like to point out many tactical and logistical lessons could be learned from the DC Sniper case.
Posted by: Robert at July 02, 2020 08:39 PM (kpYSf)
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Am getting more and more familiar with S.C. gun laws.
I do like the idea that I walk in, chose a handgun, do the online approval, and walk out in ten minutes with said firearm.
No waiting period.
I do like the idea that I walk in, chose a handgun, do the online approval, and walk out in ten minutes with said firearm.
No waiting period.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 02, 2020 08:39 PM (3D/fK)
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Know the Rules, people.
Nothing keeping you from being informed on the Laws you are charged with obeying.
Also - Don't talk to the Cops.
Other than Wyatt. He's good.
Nothing keeping you from being informed on the Laws you are charged with obeying.
Also - Don't talk to the Cops.
Other than Wyatt. He's good.
Posted by: garrett at July 02, 2020 08:39 PM (wJMQd)
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"211 Oh, the police will show up when the McCloskeys drop one of these communist pigs. Only then.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (puu6v)
I would let the police know they are free to remove the bodies, but I am not getting arrested. They had their opportunity to prevent the situation."
If they called 911 and said three attackers were dead in their front yard, the police would come then and there. Probably arrest the McCloskys for filing a false report while the arsonists are unimpeded.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:27 PM (puu6v)
I would let the police know they are free to remove the bodies, but I am not getting arrested. They had their opportunity to prevent the situation."
If they called 911 and said three attackers were dead in their front yard, the police would come then and there. Probably arrest the McCloskys for filing a false report while the arsonists are unimpeded.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:39 PM (puu6v)
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If someone assaults you with a vehicle, in your vehicle or out of it, that is Deadly Force in most places I have bothered to look."
Was there another vehicle involved? I thought it was just the mama of the team( def set-up) hitting the car with her fist.
Was there another vehicle involved? I thought it was just the mama of the team( def set-up) hitting the car with her fist.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:39 PM (L3Rsz)
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"She's ignurnt!"
Yeah, you might want to recalibrate your ignurtometer, you perpetually grievance mongering bitches.
"She's ignurnt!"
Yeah, you might want to recalibrate your ignurtometer, you perpetually grievance mongering bitches.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 02, 2020 08:40 PM (pNxlR)
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I think "I'm gonna put on a body cam and go violently fuck with someone until they hit their breaking point" is justification enough to simply shoot the asshole on principle.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 02, 2020 08:40 PM (6FeV1)
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This is getting very dangerous. People have no choice but to resort to self-help -- force -- to defend themselves, and they're going to start doing so.
And don't count on having a lot of SJWs on the jury to convict them for defending their lives.
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The real problem here - I mean, beneath the obvious one - is that you're not fighting the person who assaults you are pursues you to harm you or destroy your property. You're fighting that person *and* the entirety of the "judicial" system. All of it, from bottom to top. If you defend yourself - and you must, because the cops and judicial system sure as shit aren't going to - you'll be arrested. Then you'll make bail (if you can afford it, or if your family can). Then you'll be arraigned as the DA decides to prosecute you, but more than that to throw the whole damn book at you. Then you'll have to retain counsel, and there goes most if not all of your money. If you can hold out until trial, you won't be acquitted. Even if you're not outright convicted, the best you can hope for is a hung jury. Then the whole process gets to start again.
Or you take the plea bargain they'll definitely offer you, and end your future employment opportunities or at least severely curtail the remainder of your life.
The problem isn't defending yourself against the mob. That's hard enough, but it's a solvable problem. The real problem is that if you do, your life will be destroyed and your family ruined by the state because you had the bad manners to stand up for yourself against their preferred goons.
This will eventually lead to the "shoot, shovel, shut up" mentality, and even that's going to be a seriously high-risk enterprise.
And don't count on having a lot of SJWs on the jury to convict them for defending their lives.
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The real problem here - I mean, beneath the obvious one - is that you're not fighting the person who assaults you are pursues you to harm you or destroy your property. You're fighting that person *and* the entirety of the "judicial" system. All of it, from bottom to top. If you defend yourself - and you must, because the cops and judicial system sure as shit aren't going to - you'll be arrested. Then you'll make bail (if you can afford it, or if your family can). Then you'll be arraigned as the DA decides to prosecute you, but more than that to throw the whole damn book at you. Then you'll have to retain counsel, and there goes most if not all of your money. If you can hold out until trial, you won't be acquitted. Even if you're not outright convicted, the best you can hope for is a hung jury. Then the whole process gets to start again.
Or you take the plea bargain they'll definitely offer you, and end your future employment opportunities or at least severely curtail the remainder of your life.
The problem isn't defending yourself against the mob. That's hard enough, but it's a solvable problem. The real problem is that if you do, your life will be destroyed and your family ruined by the state because you had the bad manners to stand up for yourself against their preferred goons.
This will eventually lead to the "shoot, shovel, shut up" mentality, and even that's going to be a seriously high-risk enterprise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 02, 2020 08:40 PM (hYcqw)
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She was not in danger when she got into the vehicle and she became the
aggressor when she got out and whipped out the gun. Unless the black
women ask for charges to be dropped she is in a world of hurt. Both she
and hubby are currently in the Oakland county jail awaiting arraignment.
Posted by: Jen the original
You don't have a fucking clue as to whther she felt her life and her baby's life was in danger.
What the hell happened to you, Jen?
You used to be sane.
aggressor when she got out and whipped out the gun. Unless the black
women ask for charges to be dropped she is in a world of hurt. Both she
and hubby are currently in the Oakland county jail awaiting arraignment.
Posted by: Jen the original
You don't have a fucking clue as to whther she felt her life and her baby's life was in danger.
What the hell happened to you, Jen?
You used to be sane.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:41 PM (luzVb)
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I saw Flaming Elk open for Molten Moose at CBGBs in 75.
Posted by: Zombie Robert Byrd at July 02, 2020 08:41 PM (lGjac)
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After all of the shit the police have been through
for the last month from the MFM, mobs and politicians you'd think they'd
realize very few people have their backs and burning the last bridges
of good will they might have is not a good idea. So they will arrest
people for defending themselves or let the McCloskeys get killed tonight
for what? Their pensions that are bankrupt?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:33 PM (S67j9)
Thats basically my point. Right now we have their backs, but I can see that changing really fucking fast at this rate. You won't see law and order, or a badge. All you will see Stasi, Gestapo, etc. Not a good place to be, especially if this shit goes pear shaped.
for the last month from the MFM, mobs and politicians you'd think they'd
realize very few people have their backs and burning the last bridges
of good will they might have is not a good idea. So they will arrest
people for defending themselves or let the McCloskeys get killed tonight
for what? Their pensions that are bankrupt?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 02, 2020 08:33 PM (S67j9)
Thats basically my point. Right now we have their backs, but I can see that changing really fucking fast at this rate. You won't see law and order, or a badge. All you will see Stasi, Gestapo, etc. Not a good place to be, especially if this shit goes pear shaped.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 02, 2020 08:41 PM (9Om/r)
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Lot of escalation in that video. Were it me I'd have called 911 and said I was in fear of my life because two people were attacking me and not letting me leave. Then wait.
In that situation you're safer in the car.
In that situation you're safer in the car.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 08:41 PM (4k/Uz)
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Posted by:
Yep.
When you are going down in flames take out something big. At Midway a Marine pilot hit a IJN cruiser after he was hit.
And all the torpedo guys went all out to get the CVs. Very few made it back, but they made the win possible.
Yep.
When you are going down in flames take out something big. At Midway a Marine pilot hit a IJN cruiser after he was hit.
And all the torpedo guys went all out to get the CVs. Very few made it back, but they made the win possible.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 02, 2020 08:41 PM (u82oZ)
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That was for Mongo. Sorry for the missing attribution.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 02, 2020 08:42 PM (u82oZ)
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Love the guy in the last video. I suspect he is my brother in Christ.
Posted by: Emmie at July 02, 2020 08:43 PM (clsJu)
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Here's a report from Breitbart, today:
A 72-year-old homeowner shot and killed an alleged intruder he discovered in his Nashville, Tennessee, home Wednesday morning.
WSMV reports the incident occurred around 5:30 a.m., when the homeowner, Henry Schuster, returned to his house after eating breakfast.
Schuster told police he noticed the screen from his kitchen window had been removed, making him suspect someone had made entry into the home through it. Schuster then pulled his gun and conducted a room-to-room check through the house.
When he entered the bathroom 27-year-old Taylor Lowery was allegedly there and "lunged at him grabbing for the gun."
Schuster responded by shooting Lowery, fatally wounding him.
https://tinyurl.com/y9g7c3hw
Right now, the shooting has been ruled as 'self-defense' by the cops.
Ace, you live in an area where this seems foreign. In Smokey And The Bandit, Burt Reynolds tells Sally Fields (a NY lib dancer) that how smart you are depends on where you come from. Sally knows Broadway playwrights, Burt knows country music stars. Burt says, in effect "where you come from defines just how smart or dumb you are."
Ace, you know Broadway playwrights. That doesn't make you dumb, it means you hold a sort of New Yorker view of the USA. It's not your fault. It's the version of reality you get sold, day after day.
There is a huge section of the country that views reality through the homeowner in Nashville, TN.
He gets to defend his property. That is his reality.
A 72-year-old homeowner shot and killed an alleged intruder he discovered in his Nashville, Tennessee, home Wednesday morning.
WSMV reports the incident occurred around 5:30 a.m., when the homeowner, Henry Schuster, returned to his house after eating breakfast.
Schuster told police he noticed the screen from his kitchen window had been removed, making him suspect someone had made entry into the home through it. Schuster then pulled his gun and conducted a room-to-room check through the house.
When he entered the bathroom 27-year-old Taylor Lowery was allegedly there and "lunged at him grabbing for the gun."
Schuster responded by shooting Lowery, fatally wounding him.
https://tinyurl.com/y9g7c3hw
Right now, the shooting has been ruled as 'self-defense' by the cops.
Ace, you live in an area where this seems foreign. In Smokey And The Bandit, Burt Reynolds tells Sally Fields (a NY lib dancer) that how smart you are depends on where you come from. Sally knows Broadway playwrights, Burt knows country music stars. Burt says, in effect "where you come from defines just how smart or dumb you are."
Ace, you know Broadway playwrights. That doesn't make you dumb, it means you hold a sort of New Yorker view of the USA. It's not your fault. It's the version of reality you get sold, day after day.
There is a huge section of the country that views reality through the homeowner in Nashville, TN.
He gets to defend his property. That is his reality.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 02, 2020 08:43 PM (Z4rgH)
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"What the hell happened to you, Jen?
You used to be sane."
Seriously? As a pregnant woman, she should have stayed in the safety of her vehicle while her hubby drove them away. Her baby's life was not in danger at that point.
Once she engaged the duo and got out of the vehicle, yes...that could have turned tragic right quick.
You used to be sane."
Seriously? As a pregnant woman, she should have stayed in the safety of her vehicle while her hubby drove them away. Her baby's life was not in danger at that point.
Once she engaged the duo and got out of the vehicle, yes...that could have turned tragic right quick.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:44 PM (L3Rsz)
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Thats basically my point. Right now we have their backs, but I can see that changing really fucking fast at this rate. You won't see law and order, or a badge. All you will see Stasi, Gestapo, etc. Not a good place to be, especially if this shit goes pear shaped.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 02, 2020 08:41 PM (9Om/r)
It is already the case in many jurisdictions. When police stand down and don't intervene as innocent citizens are brutalized, they are sending a message to the victim: you deserve it. The police are political actors in these places.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 02, 2020 08:41 PM (9Om/r)
It is already the case in many jurisdictions. When police stand down and don't intervene as innocent citizens are brutalized, they are sending a message to the victim: you deserve it. The police are political actors in these places.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:44 PM (puu6v)
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I do like the idea that I walk in, chose a handgun, do the online approval, and walk out in ten minutes with said firearm.
No waiting period.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
is same in PA
No waiting period.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
is same in PA
Posted by: vmom 2020 waving Stars & Stripes at July 02, 2020 08:44 PM (OCRKH)
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She was not in danger when she got into the vehicle and she became the aggressor when she got out and whipped out the gun.<<<
Did she attack the car or the lady? We don't know that yet, because the camera drops.
If they are in St. Louis, is this the same DA that is after the McCloskeys?
Did she attack the car or the lady? We don't know that yet, because the camera drops.
If they are in St. Louis, is this the same DA that is after the McCloskeys?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 02, 2020 08:44 PM (r+sAi)
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Ah fuck.
I'm just going to have a large cocktail and binge watch Star Trek TOS.
This shit is messed up, man.
and I thought seattle was just being its usual dumb ass self.
I'm just going to have a large cocktail and binge watch Star Trek TOS.
This shit is messed up, man.
and I thought seattle was just being its usual dumb ass self.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at July 02, 2020 08:44 PM (U2p+3)
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WitchDoktor, This is your 911 Operator, Your estimated response time is 2 hours 37 minutes.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 02, 2020 08:45 PM (fDqh9)
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911, OK, I have my CCP with me and I'm afraid they are going to force my hand. I am in fear of my life.
It's all about the phrasing.
It's all about the phrasing.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 08:46 PM (4k/Uz)
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It is already the case in many jurisdictions. When police stand down and don't intervene as innocent citizens are brutalized, they are sending a message to the victim: you deserve it. The police are political actors in these places.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:44 PM (puu6v)
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The only play for cops to retain any support is to loudly say - they have a megaphone, powerful unions, the whole thing - "we're standing down because we were ordered to. We have delivered an ultimatum to the mayor to let us do our jobs or we're going on strike. This is untenable and wrong and we look forward to being freed to serve our communities."
They're mostly not doing that. And any remaining goodwill is going to be flushed and they'll be replaced with vigilance committees and the bodycount will be much higher and much more opaque. They don't do paperwork.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:44 PM (puu6v)
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The only play for cops to retain any support is to loudly say - they have a megaphone, powerful unions, the whole thing - "we're standing down because we were ordered to. We have delivered an ultimatum to the mayor to let us do our jobs or we're going on strike. This is untenable and wrong and we look forward to being freed to serve our communities."
They're mostly not doing that. And any remaining goodwill is going to be flushed and they'll be replaced with vigilance committees and the bodycount will be much higher and much more opaque. They don't do paperwork.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 02, 2020 08:46 PM (hYcqw)
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What the hell happened to you, Jen?
Jens MO is obey the law at all costs. Always has been.
Things are getting lawless. She doesn't know how to grok that.
Jens MO is obey the law at all costs. Always has been.
Things are getting lawless. She doesn't know how to grok that.
Posted by: Political Mad Libs at July 02, 2020 08:46 PM (d6PIl)
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Seriously? As a pregnant woman, she should have
stayed in the safety of her vehicle while her hubby drove them away. Her
baby's life was not in danger at that point.
Once she engaged the duo and got out of the vehicle, yes...that could have turned tragic right quick.
Posted by: lizabth
Yes sweetcheeks, seriously.
She was blocking her escape route to her car. She kept stepping in front of her and getting her face. She threatened to "kick her ass" which endangered her baby.
People getting in people's face tend to get violent lately. Happening in several cities.
Maybe you noticed.
stayed in the safety of her vehicle while her hubby drove them away. Her
baby's life was not in danger at that point.
Once she engaged the duo and got out of the vehicle, yes...that could have turned tragic right quick.
Posted by: lizabth
Yes sweetcheeks, seriously.
She was blocking her escape route to her car. She kept stepping in front of her and getting her face. She threatened to "kick her ass" which endangered her baby.
People getting in people's face tend to get violent lately. Happening in several cities.
Maybe you noticed.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:47 PM (luzVb)
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More obfuscation, deflection and evasion from an FBI spokesman Tucker
Carlson had on tonight. The guy wouldn't even identify Antifa or BLM
affiliation among any of the perps arrested in the riots. None of the
arrests had to do with people having a "political motive", the guy said.
You could tell that Tucker figured out within three minutes that he--and his viewers--were being played.
More obfuscation, deflection and evasion from an FBI spokesman Tucker
Carlson had on tonight. The guy wouldn't even identify Antifa or BLM
affiliation among any of the perps arrested in the riots. None of the
arrests had to do with people having a "political motive", the guy said.
You could tell that Tucker figured out within three minutes that he--and his viewers--were being played.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at July 02, 2020 08:47 PM (mDuOI)
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Wow.
Also the update on the McCloskeys - wow.
Thought the latter one was important in a flight 93/paradigm shift way, showing that taking the riots to the rich suburbs was not going to be as easy as torching your own communities. Guess the mob wants to make the point that anything other than apologies and submissions will not be accepted.
Also the update on the McCloskeys - wow.
Thought the latter one was important in a flight 93/paradigm shift way, showing that taking the riots to the rich suburbs was not going to be as easy as torching your own communities. Guess the mob wants to make the point that anything other than apologies and submissions will not be accepted.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 02, 2020 08:47 PM (bDqIh)
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oh for fucks sake, the black lady stood behind the van to purposely pretend to get hit. the woman thought they were about to be surrounded and boxed in. Obviously, people here have zero clue about how these things go down and how quickly they escalate.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at July 02, 2020 08:48 PM (cFwh0)
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Is there a website that has simple instructions on how to buy a damn handgun?
Posted by: Downcast
I have gone through the process in MA and Idaho.
I would suggest you contact your local gun shop. And ask them. They have an interest in getting you up and running.
Posted by: Downcast
I have gone through the process in MA and Idaho.
I would suggest you contact your local gun shop. And ask them. They have an interest in getting you up and running.
Posted by: MikeM at July 02, 2020 08:48 PM (9rSRX)
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This is becoming the new thing, where anytime a white person does something, if there's a black person on the other side, it's splattered across Twitter as "racist white people," backed by all the squishy weak "conservative" writers who think the white person should be jailed and then followed up by socialist funded DAs. And in the end it's always proven that the white person wasn't being racist.
Wait sorry this doesn't happen when the lily white antifa shits harass black cops, black conservatives or just non- political black folks who want to just live their life. Those actual acts of racism are excused.
Wait sorry this doesn't happen when the lily white antifa shits harass black cops, black conservatives or just non- political black folks who want to just live their life. Those actual acts of racism are excused.
Posted by: Rbastid at July 02, 2020 08:49 PM (xeL/n)
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Your estimated response time is 2 hours 37 minutes.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 02, 2020 08:45 PM
But back to the vid, they were in the process of driving off. The mama of the duo hit the back of the van, and the mother in the van flew out to confront.
I get the anger and passion, but had they simply drove away, they likely wouldn't be sitting in jail right now.
Very sad situation for them. Anger (even righteous anger) badly wielded can obviously lead to Very Bad Things.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 02, 2020 08:45 PM
But back to the vid, they were in the process of driving off. The mama of the duo hit the back of the van, and the mother in the van flew out to confront.
I get the anger and passion, but had they simply drove away, they likely wouldn't be sitting in jail right now.
Very sad situation for them. Anger (even righteous anger) badly wielded can obviously lead to Very Bad Things.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:49 PM (L3Rsz)
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Downcast, I hear buying a gun is easy compared to buying a book.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 08:49 PM (4k/Uz)
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because in a fight or flight situation when you are in immediate physical danger, you should first play lawyer in your head cycling through every code and every case law. jfc
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at July 02, 2020 08:50 PM (cFwh0)
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254 Ah fuck.
I'm just going to have a large cocktail and binge watch Star Trek TOS.
This shit is messed up, man.
and I thought seattle was just being its usual dumb ass self.
Not with MY ship!!! (Sorry, just love that scene)....
I'm just going to have a large cocktail and binge watch Star Trek TOS.
This shit is messed up, man.
and I thought seattle was just being its usual dumb ass self.
Not with MY ship!!! (Sorry, just love that scene)....
Posted by: Mookie at July 02, 2020 08:50 PM (3vIkC)
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They're mostly not doing that. And any remaining goodwill is going to be flushed and they'll be replaced with vigilance committees and the bodycount will be much higher and much more opaque. They don't do paperwork.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 02, 2020 08:46 PM (hYcqw)
True. I don't know what is in the heads of these cops, but the people they have always leaned on for support are falling away. If you become a State actor, you are as guilty as the State.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 02, 2020 08:46 PM (hYcqw)
True. I don't know what is in the heads of these cops, but the people they have always leaned on for support are falling away. If you become a State actor, you are as guilty as the State.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:50 PM (puu6v)
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Once she engaged the duo and got out of the vehicle, yes...that could have turned tragic right quick.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:44 PM (L3Rsz)
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lizabeth, under the old rules, I might have agreed.
Lately, though, things have gone very sideways.
People are doing crap now they wouldn't have dreamed of doing, such as blocking someone from driving away, or, heck, even getting in a car.
All the people in the minivan were trying to do is leave, and the two people videoing were doing everything they could to prevent, plus create an incident.
This was extreme provocation and it's only by grace of God someone wasn't shot.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:44 PM (L3Rsz)
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lizabeth, under the old rules, I might have agreed.
Lately, though, things have gone very sideways.
People are doing crap now they wouldn't have dreamed of doing, such as blocking someone from driving away, or, heck, even getting in a car.
All the people in the minivan were trying to do is leave, and the two people videoing were doing everything they could to prevent, plus create an incident.
This was extreme provocation and it's only by grace of God someone wasn't shot.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 02, 2020 08:51 PM (WEBkv)
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I guess upon reflection...
It could be argued that when they were backing out...they may have bumped into one of the aggressors...who was probably doing that deliberately...which immediately caused every other aggressor to swarm the car and start beating on it...where upon the victims should have just put it in drive and driven away in a prudent manner.
Instead of getting out of the car.
But...
This is the sort of Monday morning quarterbacking that I find distasteful.
Could things have been handled better? Sure. But just because things aren't handled perfectly, doesn't mean they are criminal.
I'll say this...
A lot of citizens second guess cops when they have to use force, lethal or otherwise. You see it all the time. *Why didn't he just shoot the gun out of his hand?* *Why didn't they just handcuff him without choking him?*
But I think a lot of cops do the same thing when evaluating citizens who use force to defend themselves.
Citizens don't have two way radios...they have cell phones, which are a *lot* slower. Citizens don't have all of the other, less lethal options, or the physical fitness...or the 5 to 30 years experience going "hands-on" that a street cop has. They also don't have the "command presence" that a fully kitted up, buffed out fighting age male cop has.
Just something I think should be kept in mind, when cops and DA's are thinking about this.
It could be argued that when they were backing out...they may have bumped into one of the aggressors...who was probably doing that deliberately...which immediately caused every other aggressor to swarm the car and start beating on it...where upon the victims should have just put it in drive and driven away in a prudent manner.
Instead of getting out of the car.
But...
This is the sort of Monday morning quarterbacking that I find distasteful.
Could things have been handled better? Sure. But just because things aren't handled perfectly, doesn't mean they are criminal.
I'll say this...
A lot of citizens second guess cops when they have to use force, lethal or otherwise. You see it all the time. *Why didn't he just shoot the gun out of his hand?* *Why didn't they just handcuff him without choking him?*
But I think a lot of cops do the same thing when evaluating citizens who use force to defend themselves.
Citizens don't have two way radios...they have cell phones, which are a *lot* slower. Citizens don't have all of the other, less lethal options, or the physical fitness...or the 5 to 30 years experience going "hands-on" that a street cop has. They also don't have the "command presence" that a fully kitted up, buffed out fighting age male cop has.
Just something I think should be kept in mind, when cops and DA's are thinking about this.
Posted by: El Jefe ~ Blue Zones POW MIA ~ You Are Not Forgotten ~ at July 02, 2020 08:51 PM (Ae67h)
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There is a reason why the family vehicle has front and rear HD cameras, with audio.
And enough memory to run 16 hours on a loop.
And enough memory to run 16 hours on a loop.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 02, 2020 08:51 PM (3D/fK)
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The fact that the loud aggressive bitch laughed at the gun being pulled out and started yelling 'call the cops' after blocking their departure indicates this was a set-up.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 02, 2020 08:51 PM (oVJmc)
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"267 because in a fight or flight situation when you are in immediate physical danger, you should first play lawyer in your head cycling through every code and every case law. jfc"
She is in jail but she is alive.
Fuck the law.
The law is fucking us, so it is only fair.
She is in jail but she is alive.
Fuck the law.
The law is fucking us, so it is only fair.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:51 PM (puu6v)
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Its a weird situation in a lot of these places, but take Portland for example, the mayor tells the police to do nothing when antifa beats the crap out of people, but its not the military, do they have to follow those orders when they see somebody being assaulted? Do they not have human compassion to do the job they signed up for?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 02, 2020 08:51 PM (r+sAi)
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Yes sweetcheeks, seriously.
She was blocking her escape route to her car. She kept stepping in front of her and getting her face. She threatened to "kick her ass" which endangered her baby.
People getting in people's face tend to get violent lately. Happening in several cities.
Maybe you noticed."
Darling. There was NO need for he to get out of her vehicle and confront. Nothing was gained in doing so. That's the plain fact of the matter.
She was blocking her escape route to her car. She kept stepping in front of her and getting her face. She threatened to "kick her ass" which endangered her baby.
People getting in people's face tend to get violent lately. Happening in several cities.
Maybe you noticed."
Darling. There was NO need for he to get out of her vehicle and confront. Nothing was gained in doing so. That's the plain fact of the matter.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:51 PM (L3Rsz)
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Is there a website that has simple instructions on how to buy a damn handgun?
Go to a sane states and buy from a private owner. Ask questions about round counts and range logs. Get an armorer to check out your purchase, get a 24 hour trial in order to take it to the gun shop and get it checked out.
Gun show loopholes rock.
Go to a sane states and buy from a private owner. Ask questions about round counts and range logs. Get an armorer to check out your purchase, get a 24 hour trial in order to take it to the gun shop and get it checked out.
Gun show loopholes rock.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:52 PM (luzVb)
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164 According to a report five hours ago by WXYZ, the ABC affiliate in Detroit, the local district attorney's office has charged both the woman and her husband with felony assault.
Posted by: A Lurker Delurking at July 02, 2020 08:28 PM (VoHu
Ask for a jury. Lake Orión will acquit them immediately.
Posted by: A Lurker Delurking at July 02, 2020 08:28 PM (VoHu
Ask for a jury. Lake Orión will acquit them immediately.
Posted by: clutch at July 02, 2020 08:52 PM (HL6Hq)
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And as I've said, the more Twitter protects these people, let's them post these edited videos, allows death threats, threats to their jobs and doxxing, the more they need to be held both monetarily and criminally liable, Twitter is supporting the mob and unless they police themselves their leaders need to be held responsible.
Posted by: Rbastid at July 02, 2020 08:52 PM (xeL/n)
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265 Your estimated response time is 2 hours 37 minutes.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 02, 2020 08:45 PM
But back to the vid, they were in the process of driving off. The mama of the duo hit the back of the van, and the mother in the van flew out to confront.
I get the anger and passion, but had they simply drove away, they likely wouldn't be sitting in jail right now.
Very sad situation for them. Anger (even righteous anger) badly wielded can obviously lead to Very Bad Things.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:49 PM (L3Rsz)
They drive off and get their lives ruined on social media and get charged with a hit and run and fleeing the scene of a crime and more. You have no idea how quickly these thing escalate and often times are a set up for more of the gang to join in the violence.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 02, 2020 08:45 PM
But back to the vid, they were in the process of driving off. The mama of the duo hit the back of the van, and the mother in the van flew out to confront.
I get the anger and passion, but had they simply drove away, they likely wouldn't be sitting in jail right now.
Very sad situation for them. Anger (even righteous anger) badly wielded can obviously lead to Very Bad Things.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:49 PM (L3Rsz)
They drive off and get their lives ruined on social media and get charged with a hit and run and fleeing the scene of a crime and more. You have no idea how quickly these thing escalate and often times are a set up for more of the gang to join in the violence.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at July 02, 2020 08:53 PM (cFwh0)
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The fact that the loud aggressive bitch laughed at the gun being pulled
out and started yelling 'call the cops' after blocking their departure
indicates this was a set-up. >>>>>>>>>>>>
She was likely yelling defund the cops 10 minutes before that.
out and started yelling 'call the cops' after blocking their departure
indicates this was a set-up. >>>>>>>>>>>>
She was likely yelling defund the cops 10 minutes before that.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 02, 2020 08:53 PM (r+sAi)
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256 911, OK, I have my CCP with me and I'm afraid they are going to force my hand. I am in fear of my life.
It's all about the phrasing.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 08:46 PM (4k/Uz)
correct.
You must explicitly state that you feel you are in mortal danger and have no way to protect yourself. You feel trapped.
Go back and watch the St Louis attorney homeowner get interviewed on Tucker, I think yesterday's show. He described vividly and completely the situation that his wife and him immediately engulfed them.
Listen how he lays out the situation at the beginning, and the complete fear they had that was potentially deadly. And the local cops refused to help them.
That video will be used as evidence in their trial, with false charges brought up by the Soros-crook District Attorney.
It is a how-to instruction in defending yourself from crooked Soros Lawfare.
It's all about the phrasing.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 08:46 PM (4k/Uz)
correct.
You must explicitly state that you feel you are in mortal danger and have no way to protect yourself. You feel trapped.
Go back and watch the St Louis attorney homeowner get interviewed on Tucker, I think yesterday's show. He described vividly and completely the situation that his wife and him immediately engulfed them.
Listen how he lays out the situation at the beginning, and the complete fear they had that was potentially deadly. And the local cops refused to help them.
That video will be used as evidence in their trial, with false charges brought up by the Soros-crook District Attorney.
It is a how-to instruction in defending yourself from crooked Soros Lawfare.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 02, 2020 08:53 PM (sy5kK)
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It didn't have to be a fight or flight. She was in the car. Window rolled up. Hubby started in, ok, but then wife rolled down the window to argue some more.
No need to mentally run through the legal code. I will always try to disengage and deescalate, and sure as hell will not draw my weapon unless the immediate next action is to aim and shoot. Having the people within 15 feet of you and you're agitated and waving a gun around doesn't deescalate.
No need to mentally run through the legal code. I will always try to disengage and deescalate, and sure as hell will not draw my weapon unless the immediate next action is to aim and shoot. Having the people within 15 feet of you and you're agitated and waving a gun around doesn't deescalate.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 08:54 PM (4k/Uz)
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Ask for a jury. Lake Orion will acquit them immediately.
Posted by: clutch at July 02, 2020 08:52 PM (HL6Hq)
++++++++++++
I doubt it. All it takes is *one* person on the wrong side to prevent that. A hung jury just means the prosecutor will try again until the defendant is broke and worn down to the point he'll accept a plea.
Anyone banking on acquittal - and I don't think it much matters *where* you are - is making a bad bet. All it takes is one to make your "process punishment" continue in perpetuity.
Posted by: clutch at July 02, 2020 08:52 PM (HL6Hq)
++++++++++++
I doubt it. All it takes is *one* person on the wrong side to prevent that. A hung jury just means the prosecutor will try again until the defendant is broke and worn down to the point he'll accept a plea.
Anyone banking on acquittal - and I don't think it much matters *where* you are - is making a bad bet. All it takes is one to make your "process punishment" continue in perpetuity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 02, 2020 08:54 PM (hYcqw)
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Darling. There was NO need for he to get out of her vehicle and confront.
As another commenter posted, your argument is law school horseshit.
Ever been in a fight? I doubt it. I bet you have never been surrounded and threatened in your presumably upper class white bread life.
She had no duty to back down. She protected herself and her family.
Keep arguing your ACLU legal beagle bullshit though. Fortunately for all of us. The lawyers will first against the wall.
Darling. There was NO need for he to get out of her vehicle and confront.
As another commenter posted, your argument is law school horseshit.
Ever been in a fight? I doubt it. I bet you have never been surrounded and threatened in your presumably upper class white bread life.
She had no duty to back down. She protected herself and her family.
Keep arguing your ACLU legal beagle bullshit though. Fortunately for all of us. The lawyers will first against the wall.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:55 PM (luzVb)
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Anyone banking on acquittal - and I don't think it much matters *where* you are - is making a bad bet. All it takes is one to make your "process punishment" continue in perpetuity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 02, 2020 08:54 PM (hYcqw)
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Yep, that's why a lot of people plead out. They can't afford the process.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 02, 2020 08:54 PM (hYcqw)
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Yep, that's why a lot of people plead out. They can't afford the process.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 02, 2020 08:55 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 02, 2020 08:55 PM (ZLI7S)
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They drive off and get their lives ruined on social media and get charged with a hit and run and fleeing the scene of a crime and more. You have no idea how quickly these thing escalate and often times are a set up for more of the gang to join in the violence.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve
No. There was no hit and run, and therefore no evidence of one, no matter what the duo claimed. And their lives are ruined now, in case you hadn't noticed.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve
No. There was no hit and run, and therefore no evidence of one, no matter what the duo claimed. And their lives are ruined now, in case you hadn't noticed.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:56 PM (L3Rsz)
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Darling. There was NO need for he to get out of her vehicle and confront. Nothing was gained in doing so. That's the plain fact of the matter.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:51 PM (L3Rsz)
How do you know this? From what I gather, her family's vehicle was being rammed, and continuing along could have cost her life, her baby's life, and her husband's life as a bump caused a crash. Am I missing something here?
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 08:51 PM (L3Rsz)
How do you know this? From what I gather, her family's vehicle was being rammed, and continuing along could have cost her life, her baby's life, and her husband's life as a bump caused a crash. Am I missing something here?
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 02, 2020 08:57 PM (puu6v)
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Think the McCloskeys still are going to keep throwing a ton of money at ActBlue after this?
Posted by: Allie at July 02, 2020 08:57 PM (vmRc0)
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Think the McCloskeys still are going to keep throwing a ton of money at ActBlue after this?
Posted by: Allie at July 02, 2020 08:57 PM (vmRc0)
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Yes.
Posted by: Allie at July 02, 2020 08:57 PM (vmRc0)
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Yes.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 02, 2020 08:58 PM (WEBkv)
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I didn't see their car get rammed. I saw a real loudmouth woman standing behind the car who hit it with what sounded like her hand.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 08:58 PM (4k/Uz)
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No. There was no hit and run, and therefore no evidence of one, no
matter what the duo claimed. And their lives are ruined now, in case you
hadn't noticed.
You are entitled to your own reality. Hope the sky color is interesting.
matter what the duo claimed. And their lives are ruined now, in case you
hadn't noticed.
You are entitled to your own reality. Hope the sky color is interesting.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 02, 2020 08:58 PM (luzVb)
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McCloskeys -
If they have an oil burner, a full tank, and basic plumbing skills they could tie that tank to the irrigation system...
They do have a nice stone house so I am sure it would totes safe.
If they have an oil burner, a full tank, and basic plumbing skills they could tie that tank to the irrigation system...
They do have a nice stone house so I am sure it would totes safe.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 02, 2020 08:59 PM (1g7ch)
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She had no duty to back down. She protected herself and her family.
Keep arguing your ACLU legal beagle bullshit though. Fortunately for all of us. The lawyers will first against the wall."
She had no need to protect her family by getting OUT of the vehicle to confront two race grifters. I get that she was righteously angry, but look at the trouble she's brought down on her house. I hope they beat the charges, and I think it is wrong that they WERE charged. But it didn't have to get to that point, had a cool head prevailed. The whole thing is very sad.
Keep arguing your ACLU legal beagle bullshit though. Fortunately for all of us. The lawyers will first against the wall."
She had no need to protect her family by getting OUT of the vehicle to confront two race grifters. I get that she was righteously angry, but look at the trouble she's brought down on her house. I hope they beat the charges, and I think it is wrong that they WERE charged. But it didn't have to get to that point, had a cool head prevailed. The whole thing is very sad.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 09:00 PM (L3Rsz)
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>>This is the sort of Monday morning quarterbacking that I find distasteful.
Could things have been handled better? Sure. But just because things aren't handled perfectly, doesn't mean they are criminal.
- - - - -
Yeah, we're only seeing video, and in addition to what we don't see, such as, what was going on behind the camera ( how many, how menacing), the pregnant woman was reacting to a lot of unconscious cues (Gavin de Becker's "Gift of Fear") that she sensed things were about to get real. Or hormones (pregnancy hormones are the worst).
Could things have been handled better? Sure. But just because things aren't handled perfectly, doesn't mean they are criminal.
- - - - -
Yeah, we're only seeing video, and in addition to what we don't see, such as, what was going on behind the camera ( how many, how menacing), the pregnant woman was reacting to a lot of unconscious cues (Gavin de Becker's "Gift of Fear") that she sensed things were about to get real. Or hormones (pregnancy hormones are the worst).
Posted by: Lizzy at July 02, 2020 09:00 PM (bDqIh)
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I didn't see their car get rammed. I saw a real loudmouth woman standing behind the car who hit it with what sounded like her hand.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 08:58 PM (4k/Uz)
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Yeah, and that's a problem, because you hear a loud noise, you think maybe you just hit something or someone, natural reaction is to get out of the car and with the two punks, getting out with a gun seems wise.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 08:58 PM (4k/Uz)
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Yeah, and that's a problem, because you hear a loud noise, you think maybe you just hit something or someone, natural reaction is to get out of the car and with the two punks, getting out with a gun seems wise.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 02, 2020 09:01 PM (WEBkv)
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You are entitled to your own reality. Hope the sky color is interesting.
And you yours, for sure. But sometimes it's best to just drive away from a situation and sleep in your own bed at night, ya know. Esp when pregnant.
And you yours, for sure. But sometimes it's best to just drive away from a situation and sleep in your own bed at night, ya know. Esp when pregnant.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 09:01 PM (L3Rsz)
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Liszt, agreed. There are a lot of known unknowns here.
I am not trying to convict this lady, heavens no. I am trying to use this as a learning tool for myself and play out what I personally would do differently. I don't think that makes me an ACLU lawyer.
I am not trying to convict this lady, heavens no. I am trying to use this as a learning tool for myself and play out what I personally would do differently. I don't think that makes me an ACLU lawyer.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 09:02 PM (4k/Uz)
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She had no need to protect her family by getting OUT of the vehicle to confront two race grifters. I get that she was righteously angry, but look at the trouble she's brought down on her house. I hope they beat the charges, and I think it is wrong that they WERE charged. But it didn't have to get to that point, had a cool head prevailed. The whole thing is very sad.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 09:00 PM (L3Rsz)
*****
I hear you, but it can be tough to keep a cool head when you are surrounded by aggressors, and you are a citizen, not a warrior.
Citizens have the right to defend themselves too.
They just won't be a proficient as a trained warrior.
That needs to be considered.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 09:00 PM (L3Rsz)
*****
I hear you, but it can be tough to keep a cool head when you are surrounded by aggressors, and you are a citizen, not a warrior.
Citizens have the right to defend themselves too.
They just won't be a proficient as a trained warrior.
That needs to be considered.
Posted by: El Jefe ~ Blue Zones POW MIA ~ You Are Not Forgotten ~ at July 02, 2020 09:03 PM (Ae67h)
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I am not trying to convict this lady, heavens no. I am trying to use this as a learning tool for myself and play out what I personally would do differently. I don't think that makes me an ACLU lawyer.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
For sure! I def am thinking through the same situations. And how I can avoid them.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
For sure! I def am thinking through the same situations. And how I can avoid them.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 09:03 PM (L3Rsz)
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lizabth, I have personally been accosted by this type of violence. It tends to color my attitude.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 02, 2020 09:04 PM (fDqh9)
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And to add, I honestly do not care to shoot anyone unless and until I have no other choice. Taking a life is bad enough when that lack of choice is your only consolation. Take that away too and it well and truly sucks.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at July 02, 2020 09:04 PM (4k/Uz)
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lizabth, I have personally been accosted by this type of violence. It tends to color my attitude.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 02, 2020 09:04 PM (fDqh9)
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I've gotten to a point in my life where I think I will go from zero to violence very quickly, because my age is against me in any sort of confrontation.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 02, 2020 09:04 PM (fDqh9)
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I've gotten to a point in my life where I think I will go from zero to violence very quickly, because my age is against me in any sort of confrontation.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 02, 2020 09:08 PM (WEBkv)
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"So shines a good deed in a weary world."
Posted by: Citizen at July 02, 2020 09:10 PM (ldmQR)
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I don't have a nice old mini-mansion like the McClosky's do, but I do have friends that upon hearing that my house is being targeted by Antifa and BLM this evening, and hearing that cops are not going to be there to stop it, would show up en masse, fully armed, and ready to, as the kids say these days "Boogaloo".
At least 6 would be here in less than an hour.
I'm not kidding.
In the meantime, McClosky should be posting signs saying "Trespassers will be shot on sight". And get lots of video stored on the cloud as evidence. And get some interviews with local press, telling them of the active threats they are facing. I'd also run a string of yellow WARNING tape around the house, a foot inside my property line.
I'd also try to get video from across the street, or from an angle. Think the Catholic Kids initial video with the bad breath Indian drummer. It looked kinda like he was setting up the drummer. No, other video from a distance showed exactly the opposite.
We are witnessing Civil War. The beginnings of it. And it seems, getting worse.
No cops are not on our side any more. Go back to basics to protect yourself.
I don't have a nice old mini-mansion like the McClosky's do, but I do have friends that upon hearing that my house is being targeted by Antifa and BLM this evening, and hearing that cops are not going to be there to stop it, would show up en masse, fully armed, and ready to, as the kids say these days "Boogaloo".
At least 6 would be here in less than an hour.
I'm not kidding.
In the meantime, McClosky should be posting signs saying "Trespassers will be shot on sight". And get lots of video stored on the cloud as evidence. And get some interviews with local press, telling them of the active threats they are facing. I'd also run a string of yellow WARNING tape around the house, a foot inside my property line.
I'd also try to get video from across the street, or from an angle. Think the Catholic Kids initial video with the bad breath Indian drummer. It looked kinda like he was setting up the drummer. No, other video from a distance showed exactly the opposite.
We are witnessing Civil War. The beginnings of it. And it seems, getting worse.
No cops are not on our side any more. Go back to basics to protect yourself.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 02, 2020 09:12 PM (sy5kK)
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Who bumped into who?
Asshole teen bumped into a pregnant woman just as much as a pregnant woman bumped into an asshole teen.
What a disgusting mother and kid.
Asshole teen bumped into a pregnant woman just as much as a pregnant woman bumped into an asshole teen.
What a disgusting mother and kid.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 02, 2020 09:14 PM (gJ9O0)
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142 "So what you are saying is that when a war is being waged against you
and yours, people are lying to you when they spout off individualism as
the ultimate virtue? It's almost as if this was done on purpose or
something."
That is exactly what I'm saying.
and yours, people are lying to you when they spout off individualism as
the ultimate virtue? It's almost as if this was done on purpose or
something."
That is exactly what I'm saying.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at July 02, 2020 09:18 PM (b6uXy)
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Posted by:BunnyFooFoo
"It's like, you fucking idiot, they've already taken everything from you that's worth defending without you even firing a shot, so what fucking good did all the guns do you? And by the way, in the end they're going to take the gun too if they're not stopped, and you probably won't do shit about that either.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?"
I hear you, and with all of this from the Wuhan BS to all of this, let alone all of the crap from the last 20 years. I was thinking this morning that the last time we had any kind of movement from us normals was the Tea Party and how did that turn out? Never has been any help/backing from the GOP - they hate us just as much as any lefty; with no organization with a clearcut plan and leadership to galvanize us to (hate this phrase, but using it for lack of a better one) "do something", what exactly can we do? I believe most of us norms really want to do something besides vote, but what?
"It's like, you fucking idiot, they've already taken everything from you that's worth defending without you even firing a shot, so what fucking good did all the guns do you? And by the way, in the end they're going to take the gun too if they're not stopped, and you probably won't do shit about that either.
You have the entire Right with half the guns in the world getting absolutely steamrolled by the highly organized Left. So what you do think is more important at this point: guns, or organization?"
I hear you, and with all of this from the Wuhan BS to all of this, let alone all of the crap from the last 20 years. I was thinking this morning that the last time we had any kind of movement from us normals was the Tea Party and how did that turn out? Never has been any help/backing from the GOP - they hate us just as much as any lefty; with no organization with a clearcut plan and leadership to galvanize us to (hate this phrase, but using it for lack of a better one) "do something", what exactly can we do? I believe most of us norms really want to do something besides vote, but what?
Posted by: uafanct at July 02, 2020 09:18 PM (7YfxB)
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Law of Self Defense breaks down the confrontation and each of the Michigan laws violated.
https://tinyurl.com/y98ll6vw
https://tinyurl.com/y98ll6vw
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at July 02, 2020 09:18 PM (FBrfY)
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Literally the only people in this city who like our Soros DA are the politicians and the thugs. But the bad hoods outnumber the good ones, so Krasner will be reelected in a landslide.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (PhAkB)
Ok, Wyatt, I know this is wrong, but do you know some one, who knows someone, who knows drug dealers that can set up that Soros DA with a sting?
I mean, at this point, why not? She gave up on the law the day she was sworn in.
She is a thug on government payroll.
Literally the only people in this city who like our Soros DA are the politicians and the thugs. But the bad hoods outnumber the good ones, so Krasner will be reelected in a landslide.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 02, 2020 08:32 PM (PhAkB)
Ok, Wyatt, I know this is wrong, but do you know some one, who knows someone, who knows drug dealers that can set up that Soros DA with a sting?
I mean, at this point, why not? She gave up on the law the day she was sworn in.
She is a thug on government payroll.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 02, 2020 09:18 PM (sy5kK)
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I get her reaction. I'd feel it, too. But a quick, passionate reaction when not absolutely necessary is so often a cause for sorrow in retrospect. It's a horrible situation for her and her hubby. I hope they can beat the rap and get on with their lives.
And I hope the grifters face some sort of charge, but I kinda doubt it.
So be aware of surroundings at all times. There'll probably be more of this sort of thing going on. What do they say? Heads on swivel.
And I hope the grifters face some sort of charge, but I kinda doubt it.
So be aware of surroundings at all times. There'll probably be more of this sort of thing going on. What do they say? Heads on swivel.
Posted by: lizabth at July 02, 2020 09:19 PM (L3Rsz)
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Why don't I have firearms? I'm a responsible person who knows my limits.
Because if some group of thugs (Black, White, Red, Yellow, Brown, Gray, Pink, or Green) started harassing my wife like that, I would probably regret having made them all achieve room temperature as rapidly as I could. And I would probably not stop when my wife was safe from the initial threat.
I had a lot more self-control when I was younger, before we both fought cancer and with the grace of God won. But my chemo made me so cranky, I would start putting well-aimed shots center of mass and continue until the shouting stopped.
That's why I don't have firearms. I do not wish to impose my limitations on anyone else. Plus the police don't like doing all that paperwork.
Because if some group of thugs (Black, White, Red, Yellow, Brown, Gray, Pink, or Green) started harassing my wife like that, I would probably regret having made them all achieve room temperature as rapidly as I could. And I would probably not stop when my wife was safe from the initial threat.
I had a lot more self-control when I was younger, before we both fought cancer and with the grace of God won. But my chemo made me so cranky, I would start putting well-aimed shots center of mass and continue until the shouting stopped.
That's why I don't have firearms. I do not wish to impose my limitations on anyone else. Plus the police don't like doing all that paperwork.
Posted by: setnaffa at July 02, 2020 09:33 PM (c4NCi)
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Unfortunately, she will probably lose her CCW permit. In a just world the retarded lady with the black skin would be prosecuted for harassment at the very least.
Posted by: Lucius Cornelius Sulla at July 02, 2020 09:59 PM (CLteG)
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Her husband was fired from his job, because of course.
Posted by: PDizzle at July 02, 2020 10:20 PM (aCN5p)
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"They have to know what happens when the police will not or cannot enforce the law, right? They have to know what happens next."
I don't think 'they' can reason that out.
If this shit continues, the inevitable response will be ugly, and may kick off CW II. May be what 'they' are pushing for.
Jesus weeps.
I don't think 'they' can reason that out.
If this shit continues, the inevitable response will be ugly, and may kick off CW II. May be what 'they' are pushing for.
Jesus weeps.
Posted by: boynsea at July 02, 2020 11:12 PM (Fks5r)
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Since the police are so ineffective and corrupt then maybe the left is right about abolishing them. Gee, it seems like many on the left, center and right have one thing in common: a hatred of law enforcement.
Posted by: YatYas at July 02, 2020 11:35 PM (xN9Un)
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#313 God protects me from getting a fatal disease because if I know my days are numbered somebody is getting dead before me.
Posted by: torabora at July 03, 2020 01:02 AM (Y274z)
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Saw the edited video widely posted & knew something off. Why would the black woman keep screeching? Why not let her drive off? They had the license number. She did not fear the white woman with the gun which is bizarre & scarey in itself.
Saw the edited video widely posted & knew something off. Why would the black woman keep screeching? Why not let her drive off? They had the license number. She did not fear the white woman with the gun which is bizarre & scarey in itself.
Posted by: MHK at July 03, 2020 04:33 AM (iQIUe)
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lizabth is a stupid fucking cunt. Hey slut - go make me a goddamned sandwich before I pistol whip your stupid ass.
Dumb bitch.
Dumb bitch.
Posted by: HempRopeAndStreetlight at July 03, 2020 05:24 AM (V+xzk)
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Troll in early...gfy
Posted by: A dude in MI at July 03, 2020 05:34 AM (a8/hW)
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This looks like a set-up to me...complete with the daughter's crocodile tears at the end (the daughter was escalating as well, and kept the camera rolling as the gun came out) an easy way to get a pay-out from whitey's insurance, apart from their state/federal welfare entitlements.
Posted by: jul at July 03, 2020 11:25 AM (Wq2Vt)
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Yes certainly don't you dare fight back Whitey or you'll get arrested no matter what the stupid groid did or said. The idea this cannot go on is ludicrous it's been going on since Barky was pres. It's just all out in the open now.
Posted by: FPY at July 03, 2020 12:47 PM (r5iyh)
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