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Pharmaceutical Company Moderna Reports Initial Success In the First Phase of Its Covid Vaccine Trial

Moderna's stock price jumped 40%. The DJIA jumped almost one thousand points.

The pharmaceutical company Moderna announced Monday that its vaccine, the first to be tested in people, appears to be safe and is stimulating an immune response against the novel virus.

The trial's results are base around eight people who received doses of the virus beginning in March. The volunteers, who were healthy, produced antibodies that were determined to be effective in preventing the virus from replicating.

The company will now proceed along an accelerated timetable by moving to immediately begin a second phase involving 600 people. The third trial will begin in July, and will involve thousands of healthy volunteers.

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1 Sidwell Friends first.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 04:36 PM (L+kF6)

2 Well, that would be nice.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 18, 2020 04:36 PM (NVYyb)

3 Is that an American company?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 04:37 PM (Zmnko)

4 I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but you couldn't pay me enough to be in a *test* for a vaccine.

Posted by: Venus at May 18, 2020 04:37 PM (iYXhj)

5 Follow the money trail. Who has the patent on this new "wonder" drug?

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 18, 2020 04:37 PM (JUOKG)

6 Women and minorities hardest hit.

Posted by: The New York Times at May 18, 2020 04:38 PM (HmZuC)

7 Dem prospects dove 75%.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 04:38 PM (TOwRr)

8 As someone who works in pharmaceutical research - don't get too excited about Phase 1 trial results.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 18, 2020 04:38 PM (9V81o)

9 You first.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 04:38 PM (bCLt0)

10 I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but you couldn't pay me enough to be in a *test* for a vaccine.






Posted by: Venus at May 18, 2020 04:37 PM

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I know a whole bunch of people that are literally at the nothing to lose point in their lives that would do anything for a couple of grand.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 18, 2020 04:39 PM (JUOKG)

11 Sidwell Friends first.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 04:36 PM (L+kF6)

Did you go to Sidwell?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 04:39 PM (85Gof)

12 appears to be safe and is stimulating an immune response against the novel virus.

You know what else stimulates an immune response? The virus.

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2020 04:39 PM (SwCv8)

13 Turns out the placebo effect is a pretty darn good remedy against this virus primarily affected by Gov Cuomo's actions.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 04:39 PM (sRP8d)

14 3
Is that an American company?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 04:37 PM (Zmnko)

Yes, it is based in MA.

Posted by: Vic at May 18, 2020 04:40 PM (mpXpK)

15 " Aappas to be safe". Ahahahaha.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 04:40 PM (bCLt0)

16 Did you go to Sidwell?

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Nope. But you know the rushed cold vaccine will be mandatory for public school kids to return in the fall.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 04:40 PM (L+kF6)

17 I need to hear Jimmy Acosta's take on this.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2020 04:40 PM (Uu+Jp)

18 Yes, it is based in MA.
Posted by: Vic at May 18, 2020 04:40 PM (mpXpK)

Great

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (Zmnko)

19 >>I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but you couldn't pay me enough to be in a *test* for a vaccine.


I am sure you could pay me enough.

But I don't believe they would.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (lhUQs)

20 The stupidity of a demand for a virus. We've never had great success. By the time they get one, the thing will have mutated or disappeared.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (g3hz7)

21 " Aappas to be safe". Ahahahaha.

---------

13 months later, you are alone and being attacked by nightdwellers

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (sRP8d)

22 Yawn.

I never got the flu vaccine, 'cause it seemed pointless.

Since "2019 novel coronavirus" is actually nothing but this year's new flu variant -- something which happens every year -- I plan to not get this vaccine either. And I'm not even an anti-vaxxer. I just think it's unnecessary.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (N9G0H)

23
Pass.

Ive said this before... but ....

Its not that Im atntivax.... not at all. Im very anti "injecting rushed to maket, organic compounds directly into my bloodstream".

No ..... you go first..... I insist.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (nw6Hr)

24 Vaccine not virus. Ugghhh.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (g3hz7)

25 Bill Gates should be pleased. The more I read about him, the more he gives me the creeps. And come to find out, he bankrolled a study to try and block out the sun with chemicals because climate change.
The guy is like a real life Bond villain.

Posted by: Pine Barrens at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (oh+79)

26 I might consider getting it ten years after Fauci, Birx, and all the Dems in elected office have taken it.

Posted by: Bert G at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (OMsf+)

27 are there any hot chicks in the study?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 18, 2020 04:42 PM (XEfKE)

28 Congress and Senate clean up in the market!

Film at eleven.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 04:42 PM (axyOa)

29 Shut them down!

Posted by: Bill and Melinda Gates at May 18, 2020 04:42 PM (786Ro)

30 Pass.



Ive said this before... but ....



Its not that Im atntivax.... not at all. Im very anti "injecting
rushed to maket, organic compounds directly into my bloodstream".



No ..... you go first..... I insist.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (nw6Hr)

The KarenWaffe are going to be demanding that everyone has to take it. But yeah, I agree with you. The rush for this is ridiculous.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline at May 18, 2020 04:42 PM (g3hz7)

31 So, the cheap and common drug Hydrochloroquine is bad and this one's good...who's profiting. Follow the money.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 18, 2020 04:42 PM (+7yf7)

32 NOPE.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Aging supermodel, Wuhan fighter at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (SK2xO)

33 They has my precioussss. I hatesss them

Posted by: Bill and Melinda Gates at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (786Ro)

34 I might consider getting it ten years after Fauci, Birx, and all the Dems in elected office have taken it.


Posted by: Bert G at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM


And their entire immediate families.

Posted by: Bert G at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (OMsf+)

35 Moderna... is Gates on the board? What about Farci?

How much overlap between this company and WHO bears.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (hku12)

36 Rolling out a vaccine, for a cold viruus, first company to do so wins the Pot 'O Gold. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (bCLt0)

37 Eight people?

I assume that's how these things work but it sounds rather hey let's run our stock up to me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (GbPPJ)

38 might consider getting it ten years after Fauci, Birx, and all the Dems in elected office have taken it.

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Yep, same as gun confiscation. Start in government housing, and after you've successfully managed that program then you can discuss what you learned with law abiding taxpayers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (L+kF6)

39 It's not the Moderna vaccine. It's the Moderna-NIH vaccine.

https://tinyurl.com/yanvjfff

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (ZLI7S)

40 are there any hot chicks in the study?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 18, 2020 04:42 PM (XEfKE)
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Naughty nurses.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (4o2K3)

41
The third trial will begin in July, and will involve thousands of PREVIOUSLY healthy volunteers.


Fixt for accuracy.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (nw6Hr)

42 Pass.

Ive said this before... but ....

Its not that Im atntivax.... not at all. Im very anti "injecting rushed to maket, organic compounds directly into my bloodstream".

No ..... you go first..... I insist.

Posted by: fixerupper



Concur.
I remember the firs flu vaccines that came out. It was forced on the Army.
Had more than one friend lose a family member because if it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (axyOa)

43 I think I'll just keep taking Vitamin D3 and washing my hands and staying away from most people

Just like I do now

Posted by: Bruce at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (vd8XM)

44 Miley Cyrus has a younger sister?

Posted by: Yo! at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (q2fym)

45 LOL... Talking about vaccines and such, the media is having a cow that trump is taking Hydroxychloroquine... They are rushing in "experts" who say it will kill you... At least on cavuto

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (Zmnko)

46 But how's this going to impact Gov. Cuomo's initiative to rid New York of everyone over 65?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (HmZuC)

47 So . . . what pretext is Fauci going to pull out of his hat now?

Posted by: aelfheld at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (IxDhF)

48 So how how many conresscritters blind trusts invested in the company yesterday, by chance?

Posted by: Bete at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (Ojki1)

49
Snake oil.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (mht8P)

50 45
LOL... Talking about vaccines and such, the media is having a cow that
trump is taking Hydroxychloroquine... They are rushing in "experts"
who say it will kill you... At least on cavuto

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (Zmnko)

why? They want him dead.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (XEfKE)

51 This doc on cavuto is talk in out his ass...

Posted by: Pliney at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (nzKWW)

52 >>So . . . what pretext is Fauci going to pull out of his hat now?

None. It's his vaccine.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (ZLI7S)

53 Is that an American company?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 04:37 PM


Yes, it is based in MA.
Posted by: Vic at May 18, 2020 04:40 PM



We need more proof than just that

Posted by: Hands at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (786Ro)

54 I plan to not get this vaccine either. And I'm not even an anti-vaxxer. I just think it's unnecessary.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (N9G0H)

My history with vaccines is not good. I've always run a high fever after getting one. About a third of the time I ended up being laid up for an extended period of time. Once got a vaccine and had to go back to the doctor the next day. I had pneumonia. That was a month stuck at home.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline at May 18, 2020 04:45 PM (g3hz7)

55 Minorities and women hardest hit. FIFY.

Posted by: klaftern at May 18, 2020 04:45 PM (RuIsu)

56 "26 I might consider getting it ten years after Fauci, Birx, and all the Dems in elected office have taken it.

Posted by: Bert G at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (OMsf+) "




This.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 18, 2020 04:45 PM (cqteU)

57 o . . . what pretext is Fauci going to pull out of his hat now?

Posted by: aelfheld at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (IxDhF)

you spelled ass wrong. Just sayin.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 18, 2020 04:45 PM (XEfKE)

58 Mookie Cyrus.

Posted by: klaftern at May 18, 2020 04:45 PM (RuIsu)

59 I'm not going to take a vaccine but I'm glad they are on the quick path to developing one. It's what the Karens want so anything to shut them up and get back to business as usual.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 04:45 PM (V8uX9)

60 4 I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but you couldn't pay me enough to be in a *test* for a vaccine.
Posted by: Venus


This ^^^^^

hen I was a baby, my mother foolishly and completely naively signed me up for a drug trial, for a new experimental drug aimed at the baby market. The doctors back then cooed ands reassured her that it was completely safe and normal, just sign here on the dotted line and we'll inject your baby with some unknown unnecessary chemical to treat some trivial malady!

Well, you can guess what happened. Major side-effects that were a hundred times worse than the original complaint. According to my mom, I nearly died.

Needless to say that drug never made it to the market.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (N9G0H)

61 Pass.



Ive said this before... but ....



Its not that Im atntivax.... not at all. Im very anti "injecting
rushed to maket, organic compounds directly into my bloodstream".



No ..... you go first..... I insist.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (nw6Hr)


Exactly.

That's not anti-vax, that's just smart.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (GbPPJ)

62 Seriously, click this link. All will become clear.

https://tinyurl.com/yanvjfff

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (ZLI7S)

63 My wife has been on Hydroxychloroquine for years.

No side effects. Can confirm, not dead.

Posted by: MJ at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (gAMkn)

64 The guy is like a real life Bond villain.
====================
Except Bond villain's are usually surrounded by hot chicks.
Melinda Gates broke a few ugly sticks.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (jEzQZ)

65
I'm not going to take a vaccine but I'm glad they are on the quick path to developing one. It's what the Karens want so anything to shut them up and get back to business as usual.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 04:45 PM (V8uX9)

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They not going to shut up until they can FORCE you to take the vaccine.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 04:47 PM (nw6Hr)

66 Needless to say that drug never made it to the market.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (N9G0H)

so sorry zombie but is that the one that gives you a third nipple?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 18, 2020 04:47 PM (XEfKE)

67
Have you taken vaccine from Moderna and had a reaction? You may be entitled to compensation. Call this number to speak to one of our lawyers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2020 04:47 PM (mht8P)

68 hen I was a baby, my mother foolishly and completely naively signed me up for a drug trial, for a new experimental drug aimed at the baby market. The doctors back then cooed ands reassured her that it was completely safe and normal, just sign here on the dotted line and we'll inject your baby with some unknown unnecessary chemical to treat some trivial malady!

Well, you can guess what happened. Major side-effects that were a hundred times worse than the original complaint. According to my mom, I nearly died.

Needless to say that drug never made it to the market.
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (N9G0H)

--------------------------------

*eyes your nic suspiciously...*

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 18, 2020 04:47 PM (CAJOC)

69 Worst vaxcine I ever got was the Anthrax vacine. Like getting a painful not on your arm? And it's only good for like a year or two.

But the Navy thought we were vulnerable to an Anthrax attach on the submarine. That's underwater most of the time.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 18, 2020 04:47 PM (1ISKN)

70 My wife has been on Hydroxychloroquine for years.

No side effects. Can confirm, not dead.
Posted by: MJ at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (gAMkn)

My wife was prescribed it for RA. But it made her hair fall out so she stopped taking it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 04:47 PM (85Gof)

71 I know a whole bunch of people that are literally at the nothing to lose point in their lives that would do anything for a couple of grand.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 18, 2020 04:39 PM (JUOKG)

Since donations to our charitable foundation have dropped off precipitously due to the triumph of the Orange Man, we'll do anything (or anyone (Shut the F up Bill!!)) To feed those starving Clintons in NY.

Posted by: Bill and Hill at May 18, 2020 04:47 PM (O2PCU)

72 So. Thousands of treatments worldwide = anecdotal data.

Good results in 8 individuals = cure.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 04:47 PM (Eicbe)

73 I wish them the best of luck ...

Posted by: Adriane the Bad Poetry Critic ... at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (LPnfS)

74 The company will now proceed along an accelerated timetable


But Fauci says hydroxychloroquine zpac has to proceed along a decelerated timetable. F that guy.

Posted by: Hands at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (786Ro)

75 Only 50% of people need to take the vaccine to get to herd immunity, right?

I have a way to get to 50%.

Posted by: MJ at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (gAMkn)

76 Just so I understand, 8 people means this has been successfully medically tested for the next step.

HCQ and zinc having thousands of people is not successful.
Yeah BULLSHIT.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (pw+jk)

77 LOL... Talking about vaccines and such, the media is having a cow that
trump is taking Hydroxychloroquine... They are rushing in "experts"
who say it will kill you... At least on cavuto

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (Zmnko)

why? They want him dead.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (XEfKE)

If Obama was doing it they would be having screaming orgasms about his courage and how he's leading the way.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (Uu+Jp)

78 The common influenza vaccine (the flu shot) has been between 19-60% effective over the past 10 years. No way in hell I'm taking that "vaccine"
https://tinyurl.com/yyzdu2h4

Posted by: Timon at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (dKm4U)

79 Ah they can give me the vaccine ( and probably will )

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (85Gof)

80
This is horrible news!

This is obviously a threat to our glorious power.

We are calling our betters in our new adopted home, China, and are awaiting a response.

Posted by: Jay, Kate, and Gavin at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (sy5kK)

81
Didn't someone post here a while back that they knew about Melinda in college and that she was totally into kink?

Could explain a lot, just sayin'

Posted by: stumck at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (w9Wax)

82 I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but you couldn't pay me enough to be in a *test* for a vaccine.

Posted by: Venus

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It's similar to what puzzles me about discarding anything we could have learned from the cruise ship and naval vessel situations regarding this cold virus.

We have tons of prisoners. Hey, want to reduce your sentence by 20% and put $5 a week on your tab for smokes? Sign here. Thanks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 04:49 PM (L+kF6)

83 62 Seriously, click this link. All will become clear.

https://tinyurl.com/yanvjfff
===========

Not surprised at all.

Posted by: Pliney at May 18, 2020 04:49 PM (nzKWW)

84 Except Bond villain's are usually surrounded by hot chicks.

Melinda Gates broke a few ugly sticks.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (jEzQZ)

Melinda is the non-trophy wife. He has a deal with her where he meets with his true love once a year. Someone he's known since high school. I don't know if it still happens or not.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline at May 18, 2020 04:49 PM (g3hz7)

85 Aaron Rodgers to be cancelled by progressive Karen sports "journalists" in 3,2,1...

Aaron Rodgers compares coronavirus stay-at-home orders to 'house arrest'
https://t.co/pH7E3N3xkZ

Somebody should do a wellness check on PFT Florio & Peter King because the hits keep on coming...

Gov. Gavin Newsom says pro sports could be back in California in early June
https://tinyurl.com/ycxx8pwj

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at May 18, 2020 04:49 PM (FBrfY)

86
It's an American company but they can only produce the stuff in the PRC, right?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2020 04:49 PM (mht8P)

87 If Obama was doing it they would be having screaming orgasms about his courage and how he's leading the way.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (Uu+Jp)

I saw Screaming Orgasms open for Def Leppard at the civic arena in '81.

Posted by: Timon at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (dKm4U)

88 And come to find out, he bankrolled a study to try and block out the sun with chemicals because climate change.

The guy is like a real life Bond villain.


Wasn't this the plot of a Simpsons episode?

Also... not going to get vaxxed. Not going to get a biometric vaccine chip.

Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (ZCiJZ)

89 I read a pn article about this on the Moderna website. Yeah, this vaccine is not close to a rollout any time soon. Lots and lots of hoops. Some of them even scientific.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (bCLt0)

90 Well, you can guess what happened. Major side-effects that were a hundred times worse than the original complaint. According to my mom, I nearly died.

Needless to say that drug never made it to the market.
Posted by: zombie

And that little girl grew up to be.....A ZOMBIE!

OMG! What the hell happened?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (vcOmj)

91 Aaron Rodgers compares coronavirus stay-at-home orders to 'house arrest'

------------

Imagine being locked up in the same house as Aaron Rodgers.

Yikes

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (sRP8d)

92 66 Needless to say that drug never made it to the market.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (N9G0H)

so sorry zombie but is that the one that gives you a third nipple?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob


A whole chest full of nipples.

But seriously, as a result of what happened, I was then moved to a "follow-up study" to track any long-term side effects that may have happened. Basically, for years they tested me to see if I was brian-damaged or becoming crippled. All the other (hundreds) of kids who had been given the experimental drug also had to show up for these "follow-up" tests. Over the years, we actually became friends just from meeting in the waiting room.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (N9G0H)

93 >>> Concur.
I remember the firs flu vaccines that came out. It was forced on the Army.
Had more than one friend lose a family member because if it.
Posted by: Diogenes


Your ex-mil, correct? If so, have you heard anything about all the vaccinations given to those sent to Afghanistan/Iraq resulting in major health problems? My wife's ex boss, marine, stationed in the ME in early 2000, diagnosed with ALS one year ago. I think he's around 42 or so.

Posted by: Turn Two at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (BHYVd)

94 I'm here.
Not sure why. I haven't been able to get control of myself since I read the phase one opening here in MA. The governor didn;t open shit. Industrial and offices with reduced capacity. Next week parks and beaches but unlike VA and NC and Florida, it is still too cold to really go to the beach and its 2 hours away from me anyways.
I hate, hate what is happening. Every day that goes by is a lost day of my life. If we are really really good here, he might consider opening community pools in phase two but no idea when phase two might start. Phase 4 is vaccine.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (QzF6i)

95 Eight people? That's odd, because the article I read this morning (on CNBC's website) said that the trial had 45 people, divided into three groups of 15, and that they were testing a vaccine made of lab-created messenger-RNA. The three test groups received different amounts of the vaccine. Group 1 got 25 mcg's, group 2 got 100 mcg's, and group 3 got 250 mcg's. The vaccine was given in two, intra-muscular injections, separated by several weeks. After the second injections, group 1 had the same level of virus antibodies as Covid-19 survivors, group 2 had significantly higher levels than survivors, and for some reason they didn't provide, there was no information about group 3's levels. The article also said that the vaccine was well tolerated, and the only side effects were experienced by 3 of the people in group 3 (who got the highest dose). The test group was said to be composed of men and non-pregnant women between the ages of 18-55.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (k4dH2)

96 JackStraw, that link.

Fauci connection? That's what you're saying?

Posted by: Hands at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (786Ro)

97 TRUMP SWALLOWS FISH TANK CLEANER.

I can see the headlines now.

Posted by: JuJuBee at May 18, 2020 04:51 PM (3uqLT)

98
Yes, I despise anti-vaxxers with passion, but I won't be taking this thing any time soon. It's a rush job and Lord knows what slips through the cracks.

That happened with the Swine Flu vaccine back in the '70s. Rush job with side effects that showed up later.

Posted by: publius, who demands CVS head on a pike at May 18, 2020 04:51 PM (rCwaK)

99 Does this mean that Karens will eventually have to find something else to bitch about.

Posted by: Latex Face Mask at May 18, 2020 04:51 PM (8FfnY)

100 >>Snake oil.


Just remember the Lavendar Oil for annointing your taint.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2020 04:51 PM (s8/Kd)

101 I've been saying all along, "I've got your antidote right here!"

*Grabs throbbing package*

Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2020 04:51 PM (95j/9)

102
Curious...I just received a notice that I still have time to register and vote by mail in DC.

I've never lived there.

I wonder how many ballots I can get them to send me?


Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 04:51 PM (axyOa)

103 Vaccines are, like most things in life, all about trade-offs. How do you react to them? What's likely to happen if you don't have it? Is the disease likely kill you, etc.? But like many things, it is either all or nothing to most people.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline at May 18, 2020 04:51 PM (g3hz7)

104 That happened with the Swine Flu vaccine back in the '70s. Rush job with side effects that showed up later.

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Pig Face?

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 04:51 PM (sRP8d)

105 >>Fauci connection? That's what you're saying?

That's what I'm saying.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:52 PM (ZLI7S)

106
Basically, for years they tested me to see if I was brian-damaged

Well, you comment here, so if so you're in good company.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2020 04:52 PM (mht8P)

107 Looks like Trump's statement that we will have a vaccine by the end of the year not so ridiculous as portrayed by the usual suspects.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 04:52 PM (V8uX9)

108 I see there are many others here that are steeped in common sense about HCQ and new expensive vaxes.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 04:52 PM (pw+jk)

109 The cucks are not concentrating on PDT taking the Drug...They are freaking out that he fired an IG

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 04:52 PM (85Gof)

110 42 Pass.

Ive said this before... but ....

Its not that Im atntivax.... not at all. Im very anti "injecting rushed to maket, organic compounds directly into my bloodstream".

No ..... you go first..... I insist.

Posted by: fixerupper



Concur.
I remember the firs flu vaccines that came out. It was forced on the Army.
Had more than one friend lose a family member because if it.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (axyOa)

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I will take an antibody test before I took this vaccine.

If I already had the Chinese Coronavirus Plague, there is no reason to take the vaccine.

I probably will take it eventually but I will let someone else find all the side effects first.

Posted by: rd at May 18, 2020 04:52 PM (+0uDE)

111 so sorry zombie but is that the one that gives you a third nipple?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 18, 2020 04:47 PM (XEfKE)


I'll take "Questions I never want to hear from a Cannibal for $500, Alex"

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 18, 2020 04:52 PM (aCcv7)

112 Worst vaxcine I ever got was the Anthrax vacine.
Like getting a painful not on your arm? And it's only good for like a
year or two.



But the Navy thought we were vulnerable to an Anthrax attach on the submarine. That's underwater most of the time.


Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 18, 2020 04:47 PM

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I got the Swine Flu shot when I was in the Army. Nearly killed me and it did kill some guys in the 3rd ID.


If the Russians attacked us when most of the troops in Europe got that shot, they would have walked over us like a bunch of toddlers.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 18, 2020 04:52 PM (JUOKG)

113 92
A whole chest full of nipples.

But seriously, as a result of what happened, I was then moved to a "follow-up study" to track any long-term side effects that may have happened. Basically, for years they tested me to see if I was brian-damaged or becoming crippled. All the other (hundreds) of kids who had been given the experimental drug also had to show up for these "follow-up" tests. Over the years, we actually became friends just from meeting in the waiting room.
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (N9G0H)

Sounds like you knew Walter Bishop, and Olivia.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 04:53 PM (bCLt0)

114 59 Kilroy wasn't here,
A vaccine won't shut the KraKarens up. They've been released and nothing is going to shut them up now.

Posted by: itsacoobook at May 18, 2020 04:53 PM (yPxXc)

115 By the way, I never really paid any attention to melinda gates...ouch...THAT is best one of the richest men in the World could do?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 04:53 PM (85Gof)

116 43 I think I'll just keep taking Vitamin D3 and washing my hands and staying away from most people

Just like I do now
Posted by: Bruce at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (vd8XM)

#metoo

Don't forget the vit C and zinc...

I liked to stay away from most people before the chinese lung plague descended.

Posted by: Flyover, tired of covid theatre at May 18, 2020 04:53 PM (Rbu5d)

117 and for some reason they didn't provide, there was
no information about group 3's levels. The article also said that the
vaccine was well tolerated, and the only side effects were experienced
by 3 of the people in group 3 (who got the highest dose). The test
group was said to be composed of men and non-pregnant women between the
ages of 18-55.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM (k4dH2)

Because they are dead. So, the test group is of people unlikely to suffer any serious effects from the Wuhan Flu.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline at May 18, 2020 04:53 PM (g3hz7)

118 I hope this isn't going to be a talisman used by totalitarian governors and mayors to justify extending lockdowns

Posted by: kbdabear at May 18, 2020 04:54 PM (qAR6u)

119 Phase 1 trials focus on safety, not necessarily the results.

Phase 2 trials look at safety and efficacy.

Phase 3 trials compare to other treatment modalities (not sure what they would compare to here).

Posted by: stumck at May 18, 2020 04:54 PM (w9Wax)

120 What the fuck happened to Cavuto?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:54 PM (ZLI7S)

121


"I'm not gonna try it, YOU try it!"

- - Life Cereal, Death Vaccine

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 04:54 PM (s2VJv)

122 hope this isn't going to be a talisman used by totalitarian governors and mayors to justify extending lockdowns

Posted by: kbdabear

-

Just for #TwoWeeks, same as in March.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (L+kF6)

123 WTH, I try it. Then I'll sue the shit out of them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (1ISKN)

124 its vaccine, the first to be tested in people, appears to be safe
........

Then the Guinea Pigs died...

Posted by: wth at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (v0R5T)

125 120 What the fuck happened to Cavuto?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:54 PM (ZLI7S)

It's the Paries, Jack, the Parties.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (bCLt0)

126 If we are really really good here, he might consider opening community pools in phase two but no idea when phase two might start.

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Swimming pools. You mean the ones filled with CHLORINATED WATER THAT KILLS contagions on contact??

THOSE SWIMMING POOLS????

But liquor stores and pot dispensaries are totes AOK.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (nw6Hr)

127 in one year we will have herd immunity ... about the same time Fauci's miracle vaccine will be shown to be ineffective ... but Fauci will have cashed out of the stock by then. The Fauci sales team will be selling some other global cure for the next pandemic. donate now, miss the rush, we're all in this together.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (Cus5s)

128

Influenza: ID'd in 1933, vaccine 50/50 effective
Rhinovirus Common Cold: ID'd 1950, No vaccine
HIV: ID'd 1983, No vaccine

Posted by: Pendulating Richard at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (d6DSt)

129 All the other (hundreds) of kids who had been given the experimental
drug also had to show up for these "follow-up" tests. Over the years, we
actually became friends just from meeting in the waiting room

"They were the unknowing test subjects for a vaccine gone bad. They became friends over the years and one day, when their superpowers emerged, they became... The Anti-Vax Squad."

Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (ZCiJZ)

130 Well, you can guess what happened. Major side-effects that were a hundred times worse than the original complaint. According to my mom, I nearly died.

Needless to say that drug never made it to the market.
Posted by: zombie

And that little girl grew up to be.....A ZOMBIE!

OMG! What the hell happened?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 18, 2020 04:50 PM



She grew up to become the NY health director.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (axyOa)

131 I followed a doc on Twatter who is releasing 2 (!) statistically significant, peer reviewed (!) studies on the efficacy of HCQ as a prophylactic and early treatment for Kung Flu.
May 20th.
I the smell the libtard meltdown from here.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (jEzQZ)

132 120
What the fuck happened to Cavuto?





Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:54 PM (ZLI7S)

What did he do now?

Posted by: Cavuto's Minder at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (ufFY8)

133 25 Bill Gates should be pleased. The more I read about him, the more he gives me the creeps. And come to find out, he bankrolled a study to try and block out the sun with chemicals because climate change.

Posted by: Pine Barrens at May 18, 2020 04:41 PM (oh+79)

He saw Mr Burns block out the sun on an episode of The Simpsons

Posted by: kbdabear at May 18, 2020 04:56 PM (qAR6u)

134 I hope this isn't going to be a talisman used by totalitarian governors and mayors to justify extending lockdowns

Posted by: kbdabear at May 18, 2020 04:54 PM (qAR6u)

It already is.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline at May 18, 2020 04:56 PM (g3hz7)

135 the vaccine was well tolerated
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Surprising for a virus that's widely asymptomatic!

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 04:56 PM (Eicbe)

136 104 That happened with the Swine Flu vaccine back in the '70s. Rush job with side effects that showed up later.

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Pig Face?
Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 04:51 PM (sRP8d)

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Spiders start leaving you messages in their webs.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 18, 2020 04:56 PM (CAJOC)

137 Oddly enough, all of the participants in the phrase 1 trial were named Karen. Hmmm.

Posted by: Latex Face Mask at May 18, 2020 04:56 PM (8FfnY)

138 What the fuck happened to Cavuto?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:54 PM (ZLI7S)

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Somebody overinflated his head.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 04:56 PM (nw6Hr)

139 Don't forget the vit C and zinc...

I liked to stay away from most people before the chinese lung plague descended.
Posted by: Flyover

Yeah. I got zinc in a multi. And if I'm sick, I stay away from people. I expect the same, but know better, from others.

Posted by: Bruce at May 18, 2020 04:56 PM (vd8XM)

140 A mad dash vaccine for a not especially lethal virus?? How stupid.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 04:56 PM (bCLt0)

141 Swimming pools. You mean the ones filled with CHLORINATED WATER THAT KILLS contagions on contact??

THOSE SWIMMING POOLS????


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Swimming pools should be illegal. If it saves one life from drowning, it is worth it.

Posted by: Karens Everywhere at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (sRP8d)

142 The PA Health Director is what happens when you take vaccines.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (g3hz7)

143 SARS-COV-1, 2003: no vaccine
SARS-COV-2, 2019: vaccine in 10 months

Yeah, I don't buy it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (1ISKN)

144 By the way, I never really paid any attention to melinda
gates...ouch...THAT is best one of the richest men in the World could
do?


She's the only one who understood he was hitting on her when she noticed he was talking to her shoes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - fighting with a dying hard drive at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (SchxB)

145 The common influenza vaccine (the flu shot) has been
between 19-60% effective over the past 10 years. No way in hell I'm
taking that "vaccine"
https://tinyurl.com/yyzdu2h4-

%Posted by: Timon at May 18, 2020 04:48 PM (dKm4U)

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And the total survival rate for Americans from CCP covid 19 is 99.987%.

I think I'll take my chances with no vax. 99.987% >>>>>>>> 19-60%.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (pw+jk)

146 LOL. CNN is going to be wall-to-wall hydrochloroquine for the rest of the week. I wonder if Trump is dropping this now because he knows some news is coming on it.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (xPl2J)

147 113:Sounds like you knew Walter Bishop, and Olivia.


"Fringe" was underrated and Anna Torv was smokin' hot.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (E7svB)

148 Dr Janette Neishewatt to Cavuto... 'calm the fcuk down, Neil'.

Posted by: BluesFish at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (gRXTc)

149 And this exchange with the reporters and Trump about the efficacy of HCQ is why Fauchi and Birx need to be fired immediately.


HCQ has been used as an antiviral for decades, it was also touted by the Fauchi weasel as a promising general use virus prophylactic as recently as 2015.



It's only being denigrated as way of attacking Trump.


Saving peoples lives be damned.


Bastards.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (T+XCu)

150 Peter Buttigieg is waiting for a vaccine delivered via suppository.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (Uu+Jp)

151 PREDICTION:

The timing of the release of this "cure" will coincide with the prophesied "Second Wave" which the "experts" are telling us will be even more deadly than the initial wave.

With this Second Wave, they will have the draconian action again - maybe even have some legislation to back it up. The caveat is, you are under House Arrest until you take the vaccine - which God only knows what evil is buried within it.

The first wave lock-down was sufficient for Big Tech to know what mobile phones are where and that info, of course, is sold/shared with our Communist overlords.

The "vaccine" the Elite get will be quite different than the what the Expendables receive.

This feels like a plot from The Kingsmen.

So of the thirteen companies that have made the short-list, it is important to see which ones have the Dark Money behind it, because that will be the winner.

This one is a head-fake to test the market response and to shake out the politically unconnected who know not to get into this one. The next two will likely also be of the same nature, to flush out early investors who will get creamed when their investment doesn't pan out.

Then, without fan-fare the preselected company will "win" the coveted global contract and we will see people get wealthier than Bezos be manufactured - a virtual Who's Who of the political class.

Posted by: 🐧 at May 18, 2020 04:58 PM (C+evo)

152 And the total survival rate for Americans from CCP covid 19 is 99.987%.

I think I'll take my chances with no vax. 99.987% >>>>>>>> 19-60%.


Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious



Ditto.
And I'll stay out of NY rest homes.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 04:58 PM (axyOa)

153

Gerald Ford launched this mass vaccination effort to vaccinate every American with the Swine Flu vaccine (he likely thought it would help his re-election effort).

They got about 25% of the population vaccinated. Most serious side effect was Guillaine-Barre syndrome (Ghislaine-Epstein syndrome is worse). They also, as part of the rush job used an attenuated live virus, which was bad for susceptible people, compromised immune systems and what not.

The incidence of Guilliane-Barre was 1 in 100,000. Small, but significant when you vaccinate 25% of the population willy-nilly.

Posted by: publius, who demands CVS head on a pike at May 18, 2020 04:58 PM (rCwaK)

154 the key ingredient in hcq chinchona is available everywhere from central America to Malaysia, it's economical and effective, the vaccine is untested 8 people, not doubleblind and no control group, now then, lets celebrate,

Posted by: gaius martius at May 18, 2020 04:58 PM (hMlTh)

155 147 113:Sounds like you knew Walter Bishop, and Olivia.


"Fringe" was underrated and Anna Torv was smokin' hot.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (E7svB)


Yes, and hell yes.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 04:58 PM (bCLt0)

156 What the fuck happened to Cavuto?
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Bill Kristol recommended Neal use his pool boy, Paolo.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 18, 2020 04:58 PM (jEzQZ)

157 HIV: ID'd 1983, No vaccine
Posted by: Pendulating Richard at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (d6DSt)

No vaccine but treatments that are good enough that it allowed the freak flags to fly again.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 04:58 PM (V8uX9)

158 52 >>So . . . what pretext is Fauci going to pull out of his hat now?

None. It's his vaccine.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:44 PM (ZLI7S)



Imagine the reaction if Trump had any sort of interest in this vaccine on that level. Like if hi stock portfolio was heavily invested in that company.


But this asshole gets to go on tv saying "we can't open until there's a vaccine!" While he has major interest in that said vaccine.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2020 04:58 PM (40d0J)

159 142 The PA Health Director is what happens when you take vaccines.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline



LOL!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 18, 2020 04:58 PM (E7svB)

160 "Appears safe", but it doesn't matter because Moderna is protected by the vaccine court if theirs is selected.

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2020 04:58 PM (jacU8)

161 120 What the fuck happened to Cavuto?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:54 PM (ZLI7S)

I'm surprised so many people are surprised by Cavuto.

He's a POS NT.

People on twitter are reaming him.

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (cF8AT)

162 Well I'd first get an antibody test and have my dad get one to see if there was even any need to bother with a vaccine and I normally skip the flu vaccine and don't nag dad to get one. But I would get this one if the 2nd wave testing is good. I'd demand to be exempt from wearing a mask afterwards. (I must work from home for now but the computer techs have to be in a mask every second they are in the building anytime they have to be hands on to fix something.)

I've even been wearing a mask for shopping, but they can go to hell with wearing one for 8 hours to work onsite.

I think the Swedish approach of go for herd immunity is probably better, but vaccinate those who interact with the sick and elderly and vaccinate the sick and elderly after a few months of proof the vaccine is safe and tell any anti-vaxxer Karens to STFD and STFU if they whine about we can't go back to packed dance floors, HS gyms watching basketball yada yada.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (T9Hmo)

163 The pharmaceutical company Moderna announced Monday that its vaccine, the first to be tested in people, appears to be safe and is stimulating an immune response against the novel virus.

But was the research group sufficiently diverse? How many were women? How many minorities? How many gay? How many transgenders?

Good thing we've been pumping out Gender Studies majors to give us the man(?)power to create vaccines in short order.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (YqDXo)

164 Well that just means we have to shut down until there's a vaccine for cancer

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (aO8Gd)

165 Surprising for a virus that's widely asymptomatic!



Riddle me this people: How do we know that these people who are asymptomatic actually have CV19? The tests are for coronaviruses. Not this SPECIFIC coronavirus. That test takes too long, and to be honest, I don't know if we have an accurate one.


So maybe, just maybe, the people who are supposedly asymptomatic and shredding virus particulates like a wood chipper actually just have (wait for it)... a very mild cold?

Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (ZCiJZ)

166 141 Swimming pools. You mean the ones filled with CHLORINATED WATER THAT KILLS contagions on contact??

THOSE SWIMMING POOLS????


--------------

Swimming pools should be illegal. If it saves one life from drowning, it is worth it.
Posted by: Karens Everywhere at May 18, 2020 04:57 PM (sRP8d)

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People don't drown in swimming pools. They drown in water. Ban all water!!!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (CAJOC)

167 Can't believe they ( Leftists) are not sabotaging it

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (ZCEU2)

168 The incidence of Guilliane-Barre was 1 in 100,000. Small, but significant when you vaccinate 25% of the population willy-nilly.
Posted by: publius,

If I gotta take the shot in my willy, I'm out!

Posted by: Bruce at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (vd8XM)

169 This is wonderful news for all the congressmen who own their stock.

Posted by: Methos at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (kOpft)

170 Wow. Cavuto is basically inventing the idea that Trump insisted on taking HCQ as a preventative and the WH medical staff did not resist him. And then going proctol on his invented narrative.

All from Trump saying that he was taking it preventatively.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (Eicbe)

171 HIV: ID'd 1983, No vaccine

Coronavirus, ID'd in the 1950's: no vaccine...until now! Miraculously, it only took two months!

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2020 05:00 PM (jacU8)

172 Get this: The State of NJ mandated that I, or my Hygienists, are NOT allowed to do cleanings in the Office...OK, so that means the part time Hygienist who worked for me is furloughed...and today I get a notice the my unemployment rate from the State has gone up? Doubled? WTF?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 05:00 PM (85Gof)

173 142 The PA Health Director is what happens when you take vaccines.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline


He/she/it probably grew up living next to Three Mile Island.

It would explain a lot, would it not?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2020 05:00 PM (YqDXo)

174 But this asshole gets to go on tv saying "we can't open until there's a
vaccine!" While he has major interest in that said vaccine.


My guess is that he has interest in the Gilead vaccine, Remdisivir. Not this one.

Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 18, 2020 05:00 PM (ZCiJZ)

175 1 billion doses of HCQ over 70 years is not empirical evidence!

Posted by: Dr. Fauci at May 18, 2020 05:00 PM (r+sAi)

176 Because they are dead. So, the test group is of people unlikely to suffer any serious effects from the Wuhan Flu.
_____________

lol, could be. The article said that all 45 had tested positive for antibodies to Covid-19 after the vaccine, but it didn't say what levels the third group had. That was odd, because the third group was the group that received the highest dose of the vaccine, and the only one that experienced any side effects.

But yeah, like many people here, I would not be rushing out to get any vaccine, especially for a virus that doesn't even make most people sick who get infected with it. The vast majority of the population faces no real risk from this virus. The risk from our idiot politicians, on the other hand, is much greater.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 18, 2020 05:00 PM (k4dH2)

177 People don't drown in swimming pools. They drown in water. Ban all water!!!
Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 18, 2020 04:59 PM (CAJOC)
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Dihydrogen Monoxide is *dangerous* stuff, man!

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:01 PM (Eicbe)

178 Sock off

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 05:01 PM (sRP8d)

179 Get this: The State of NJ mandated that I, or my Hygienists, are NOT allowed to do cleanings in the Office...OK, so that means the part time Hygienist who worked for me is furloughed...and today I get a notice the my unemployment rate from the State has gone up? Doubled? WTF?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Back alley teeth cleanings

Posted by: Bruce at May 18, 2020 05:01 PM (vd8XM)

180 126 If we are really really good here, he might consider opening community pools in phase two but no idea when phase two might start.

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Swimming pools. You mean the ones filled with CHLORINATED WATER THAT KILLS contagions on contact??

THOSE SWIMMING POOLS????

But liquor stores and pot dispensaries are totes AOK.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 04:55 PM (nw6Hr)

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If they are outdoor pools, the UV from the Sun will likely get the virus first.

Posted by: rd at May 18, 2020 05:01 PM (+0uDE)

181 >>I'm surprised so many people are surprised by Cavuto.


I'm surprised he would be so unprofessional as to argue with an actual doctor who works with covid patients in NYC, has been giving them hydroxyC with good results and just happens to be a paid Fox contributor.

I know he doesn't like Trump but he sounds unhinged.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:01 PM (ZLI7S)

182 No retail, no restaurants, no gyms. Social distancing, masks required even outdoors. Reduced capacity requirments even for the limited businesses that can open next week. No gathering of more than 10 people.
If this isn't fascism, I don;t know what is. I'll be really surprised if they let the kids go back to school in the fall.
Some of you may be seeing the light at the end of hte tunnel but I just got hit by the train.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 18, 2020 05:02 PM (QzF6i)

183 I know he doesn't like Trump but he sounds unhinged.

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Seems redundant.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 05:02 PM (sRP8d)

184
Once the country completely opens back up, good luck with anything like this happening again. Even if the virus is a real threat and not just to very old sick people that are in horrible health anyway.

Too many people will ignore authorities. There will not be a respect for government decrees. Instead of following their advice for 3 months, there will be immediate backlashes and protests.

It will not be anything like this Wuhan flu response. There is no trust for any level of government any more, if that is possible.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 18, 2020 05:02 PM (sy5kK)

185 Jewells, you asked if Zicam contained zinc in the previous thread ?

no, it no longer does

which SUCKS

I still have boxes of the swabs WITH ZINC here - they took the zinc out b/c some people had their sense of smell temporarily impacted by using it (I never have, and the effect wasn't permanent)

anyway so yeah no zinc in Zicam anymore

I just get supplements BUT I do save those old swabs for real colds - stops EVERYTHING if you use them for like a day when you feel symptoms starting. it's freaking MAGIC.

also ... I think the President talked about his prophylactic use of HCQ (and probably zinc) because he DOES have some info... he's getting ahead of a big story with that

altho it's not news - we KNEW the combo would work as a prophylactic!!!! but the Shadow Government didn't want their cool plan all ruined too early

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:02 PM (j9HX3)

186 Trump has Lupus !!!

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 05:02 PM (V8uX9)

187 It's not the Moderna vaccine. It's the Moderna-NIH vaccine.

https://tinyurl.com/yanvjfff
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:43 PM (ZLI7S)


So that's all there is to say about that.

Create a worldwide pandemic.

Pull the vaccine out of your... cloaca.

Profit.

We were played, all of this, all of us.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 05:02 PM (hku12)

188 So...the apparently inflated death toll numbers of Kung Flu right now are like 90,000.
My understanding is that a typical flu season claims between 50k - 100k people.

I am thinking that the end result of this stupid virus is that it has the about same effect as the flu. So, much ado about nothing. (Assuming, of course, that this fucking thing was NOT man-made.)



Am I missing anything here?


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2020 05:03 PM (ufFY8)

189 OK.
On one hand we have HCQ and Z-Pack having huge success rates in CURING, not preventing but CURING CCP19.

Also HCQ has been around for 50+ years and the side effects only manifest in very long term use... if ever.
BUT the democrats and media (birm) reaction to taking a proven safe drug combination for CCP19 is to stop it.
This looks like they want lots of people to die of CCP 19.
I find no other explanation.

Also tie that into what the democrat governors have done by putting covid patients in with the most vulnerable of the population.


This, my friends, is what I will term when the cold civil war went to hot.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 05:03 PM (pw+jk)

190 Get this: The State of NJ mandated that I, or my Hygienists, are NOT allowed to do cleanings in the Office...
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Fuck em Doc.

Do your cleanings in the parking lot then.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:03 PM (nw6Hr)

191 Fauchi weasel >= gnome Fauci

Posted by: wth at May 18, 2020 05:04 PM (v0R5T)

192 Cavuto has positioned himself as the Allahpundit of FBN - he's already acknowledged publicly how much he enjoys trolling conservatives and Trump supporters.

So, he comes on Fox now and makes imbecilic comments to get normal viewers to throw baseballs at the target to dunk this idiot clown...

Its pathetic...what TDS does to a grown man.

Posted by: Boswell at May 18, 2020 05:04 PM (32YRo)

193 meanwhile dr bright is pitching his former employer, novamex's exclusive gates foundation secured grant (89 million) as the only solution, of course 60 minutes didn't look into it,

Posted by: gaius martius at May 18, 2020 05:04 PM (hMlTh)

194 This will give all the Donk governors an excuse to keep the states locked down until a "sufficient number" (that will never quite be reached) have been vaccinated. That could be years down the pike. In the mean time those of unfortunate enough to live in Soviet Commifornia, or the Great Gulag of Michigan are screwed.

JWM

Posted by: jwm at May 18, 2020 05:04 PM (HnUoF)

195 Fauci connection? That's what you're saying?

That's what I'm saying.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 04:52 PM (ZLI7S)


So you are saying Fauci has an interest in seeing this succeed ?

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:04 PM (zr5Kq)

196 Cavuto is a sychophant, to his bosses, AND to his bosses bosses. Lots of that in Big Media, and its shamefully obvious that they're bought and paid for. The tragic part of all this is that so many people uncritically believe what Mercenary Media says.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:04 PM (bCLt0)

197 If I could find that sucker of cock who sued ZiCam, I would kick his ass every day for three months.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2020 05:05 PM (OZ0zp)

198 I have been getting regular ole flu vaccines for many years. No problem.

You betcha I am going to talk to doc about even flu from now on.

While I don't often wear my tinfoil hat, the chipping issue freaked me out. I read somewhere a month ago that one "vaccine" was subcutaneous vs in muscle. That sounded like chippie to me.

I do not understand, except for pure evil notions, why Gates is involved at all except for depopulation like his Africa DPT vaccines that killed kids.

Hell, wish I had saved it, but saw that in Tanzania they refused covid testing from Gates or whoever. Said they put pawpaw plants and the pawpaw plant test said "positive" for covid. Ha! Follow their lead for a change of pace vs Cuomo's? I cannot remember what else they tested. Reptiles, I think. One test was not conclusive.


So, one may wonder, if tests are even DONE in some places. And no way is someone cramming an 8" swab up my nose.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Aging supermodel, Wuhan fighter at May 18, 2020 05:05 PM (SK2xO)

199 also ... I think the President talked about his prophylactic use of HCQ (and probably zinc) because he DOES have some info... he's getting ahead of a big story with that

altho it's not news - we KNEW the combo would work as a prophylactic!!!! but the Shadow Government didn't want their cool plan all ruined too early
Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:02 PM (j9HX3)

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BREAKING NEWS!! CNN REPORTS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS USING HCQ AS BIRTH CONTROL!!

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:05 PM (nw6Hr)

200 Dear gawd, the neighbors are drinking from their pool because Trump.

I was drinking from the rum bottle for 8 years of Obammy.

Posted by: BluesFish at May 18, 2020 05:05 PM (gRXTc)

201 The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is listed as a "strategic collaborator" on Moderna's website.

Coincidence...?

Posted by: brass pair at May 18, 2020 05:05 PM (7sdWQ)

202 >>Imagine the reaction if Trump had any sort of interest in this vaccine on that level. Like if hi stock portfolio was heavily invested in that company.


>>But this asshole gets to go on tv saying "we can't open until there's a vaccine!" While he has major interest in that said vaccine.

This was essentially the story behind the Plandemic movie with Fauci playing a leading role.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:05 PM (ZLI7S)

203 I'm surprised he would be so unprofessional as to argue with an actual doctor who works with covid patients in NYC, has been giving them hydroxyC with good results and just happens to be a paid Fox contributor.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:01 PM (ZLI7S)
---
"But this FDA shill I just had on said..."

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:05 PM (Eicbe)

204 Get this: The State of NJ mandated that I, or my Hygienists, are NOT allowed to do cleanings in the Office...
------

Fuck em Doc.

Do your cleanings in the parking lot then.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:03 PM (nw6Hr)

They did this 2 months ago..what pissses me off is that they are raising my state unemployment tax because they mandated my hygienist can not work?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (85Gof)

205 Dr. Fauci wants to sell you the new drug that is thousands of $ per dose.
HCQ is cheap, and known, and in use for decades. Used prophylactically in Viet Nam by thousands of service people.

Posted by: navybrat at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (w7KSn)

206 You can't open up the gate until you vaccinate.

Posted by: zombie Johnnie Cochrane at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (uG03k)

207 My guess is that he has interest in the Gilead vaccine, Remdisivir. Not this one.
Posted by: shibumi

Remdisivir is a broad spectrum antiviral not a vaccine.

Posted by: Pendulating Richard at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (d6DSt)

208 Not taking this vaccine. But it'll be the exit door for some caught in this madness.

Posted by: itsacoobook at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (yPxXc)

209 129 All the other (hundreds) of kids who had been given the experimental
drug also had to show up for these "follow-up" tests. Over the years, we
actually became friends just from meeting in the waiting room

"They were the unknowing test subjects for a vaccine gone bad. They became friends over the years and one day, when their superpowers emerged, they became... The Anti-Vax Squad."
Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984


Actually, it wasn't a vaccine -- just a new drug. Well, make that "drug." According to my mother, one day I started crying and wouldn't stop, and she couldn't figure out why. So she tok me to the doctor's office. He examined me, didn't even give a diagnosis, and promptly told my mother they had a new drug that would make me feel better, stop the crying. She shrugged, signed on the dotted line.

I didn't know about this until I was 18. I remembered going for the "follow-up" tests, which lasted until I was about 8, but I was never told WHY I had to take all these tests every now and then. I've tried for years to find out what the drug even was, since my mother doesn't remember and didn't keep any of the records from back then. I've narrowed it down to a few likely possibilities -- drug trials that were conducted that year. Both were totally infuriatingly unnecessary "drugs" -- similar to how they gave Thalidomide to pregnant women to ease their morning sickness. It didn't even work to stop morning sickness for most women, and yet it gave all their babies birth defects. HUGE side-effects for a drug meant to treat an extremely trivial problem.

I think the chemical I was given was basically just a sedative or knock-out drug that would "stop babies from crying" without even addressing whatever pain or discomfort was causing them to cry. And the "sedative" effect of the chemical was probably itself just a side-effect among many other more serious effects the chemical had on the human body.

Yeah, I hate all those doctors back then.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (N9G0H)

210 188 So...the apparently inflated death toll numbers of Kung Flu right now are like 90,000.
My understanding is that a typical flu season claims between 50k - 100k people.

I am thinking that the end result of this stupid virus is that it has the about same effect as the flu. So, much ado about nothing. (Assuming, of course, that this fucking thing was NOT man-made.)



Am I missing anything here?


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2020 05:03 PM (ufFY

That 90,000 number seems to be vastly inflated, due to intentional lying, for various motives. This is starting to be revealed.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (bCLt0)

211 My guess is that he has interest in the Gilead vaccine, Remdisivir. Not this one.


Remdesivir is NOT a vaccine

it's a treatment, given via IV, for very severe cases

really it fits with a treatment protocol plan - use HCQ/zinc/arythromicin for early treatment, if things go badly or the person is already far along, use the remdesivir

I don't see a problem with this.

the newly announced vax from Moderna looks pretty solid. it's not attenuated virus which is a good thing. it's a real vaccine.

so we'll see but I am feeling positive about it, and there are others in the pipeline

I'd imagine it would be for the elderly and other at risk, plus HC workers

also, Wolf is an asshole.

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (j9HX3)

212 Garrett...I agree. Those Zicam swabs worked well for me.

I think a few people lost their taste or something and sued.


I used to fly a lot and never got sick. Now, when I fly, will wear a mask like a Karen, I guess. Possibly the only time I will wear one.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Aging supermodel, Wuhan fighter at May 18, 2020 05:07 PM (SK2xO)

213 In the last week around the suburbs of Seattle, the number of people wearing masks is much, much higher than a month ago.

By far. I actually think this is the Karen Effect in action.

Even the Karens are getting sick of this stuff, but they self-scolded themselves into going back outside.

Where they are ignored or sneered at if they whine out loud.

I would call this a net positive.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 18, 2020 05:07 PM (sy5kK)

214 >>So you are saying Fauci has an interest in seeing this succeed ?

Go read the article and see for yourself. Probably not a coincidence that the picture that accompanies the story is of Fauci who just happens to lead the NIH, the not so silent partner in this vaccine.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:07 PM (ZLI7S)

215 I'm not going to take a vaccine but I'm glad they are on the quick path to developing one. It's what the Karens want so anything to shut them up and get back to business as usual.

That's my take too. Having a working vaccine this summer would basically end Biden's candidacy, because he'd be forced to go out and sundown in front of everyone. So I'm all for it.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 18, 2020 05:07 PM (ZGrMX)

216 No ..... you go first..... I insist.

Yeah pretty much how I feel.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 18, 2020 05:08 PM (dUJdY)

217 My Shadenboner just grew again to near the top of Mt Everest: https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/18/katie-hill-mike-garcia-republicans-flipped-seat-california/

Posted by: Shooter McLovin at May 18, 2020 05:08 PM (HVMmF)

218 I've gotten the flu vaccine since army days, don't think the army gave me a choice. Never had the flu in years, bad colds yes....

Posted by: Colin at May 18, 2020 05:08 PM (pwDQR)

219 172 Nevergiveup Whitmer when she shut down the state two months ago put out a list of acceptable procedures that a dentist can perform during the closure. Extractions, pain relieving fillings. No crowns, cosmetic restorations. No cleanings no surgery unless it is to relieve pain. No implants . Did you not realize governors are dental specialists?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 18, 2020 05:08 PM (OFGpZ)

220 But liquor stores and pot dispensaries are totes AOK.

Because your government is trying to kill you.

You know how to destroy your immune system? Follow the government's advice/commands.

1) Stress is a huge factor in the strength of your immune system - so the government seeks out the quickest and most powerful path of causing stress: destroying jobs, reclassifying people as worthy and unworthy, 24/365 terror and FUD, draconian laws and edicts that are counter-intuitive and contradictory. This is a major reason why they refuse to set hard dates because uncertainty causes stress.

2) Vitamin D, exercise and outdoor activities: Government's plan outlaw all of that.

3) Nutrition. Many of the important enzymes for a strong immune system are found in meat - so have the Communist Chinese packing plants close.

4) "Herd immunity" - do everything possible to stop it.

5) Education, knowing the risks and the risk vectors so that people can decide for themselves. The government engineers one of the greatest propaganda and disinformation campaigns in recent decades.

Or you can just do a Cuomo and force Typhoid Mary to infect the most vulnerable, and cause massive disruptions in the supply chain.

Posted by: 🐧 at May 18, 2020 05:08 PM (C+evo)

221
They did this 2 months ago..what pissses me off is that they are raising my state unemployment tax because they mandated my hygienist can not work?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (85Gof)

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Yeah .... I get it. Sorry. I shouldnt jest . Its infuriating.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:09 PM (nw6Hr)

222 I know he doesn't like Trump but he sounds unhinged.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:01 PM (ZLI7S)

I've found him to be unhinged most of the time...he usually hides it better.

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2020 05:09 PM (cF8AT)

223 210 188
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2020 05:03 PM (ufFY

That 90,000 number seems to be vastly inflated, due to intentional lying, for various motives. This is starting to be revealed.
Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (bCLt0)


The bottom line is Peking Pox is just one more way to die among countless others, and in the grand scheme of things vastly less deadly than so many others.

It was merely used as a pretext for political power grabbing on a scale never before seen. How something so relatively innocuous could be potentially as shattering as a Reichstag Fire still blows my mind.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:09 PM (s2VJv)

224 "This looks like they want lots of people to die of CCP 19.
I find no other explanation."

Ipso facto.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 05:09 PM (H8QX8)

225 Nevergiveup Whitmer when she shut down the state two months ago put out a list of acceptable procedures that a dentist can perform during the closure. Extractions, pain relieving fillings. No crowns, cosmetic restorations. No cleanings no surgery unless it is to relieve pain. No implants . Did you not realize governors are dental specialists?
Posted by: Jen the original at May 18, 2020 05:08 PM (OFGpZ)

I don't care about that....What I care about is they mandate my hygienist can not work and then raise my unemployment tax when they file for unemployment because of a gov mandate.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 05:09 PM (85Gof)

226 10

I know a whole bunch of people that are literally at the nothing to lose point in their lives that would do anything for a couple of grand.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 18, 2020 04:39 PM (JUOKG)

**********
I know some myself, but they aren't what I would consider to be "in good health." lol
(God forgive me).

Posted by: Venus at May 18, 2020 05:09 PM (iYXhj)

227 I wonder if Trump is dropping this now because he knows some news is coming on it.

And he already knows what that news is (as do we all).

Posted by: t-bird at May 18, 2020 05:09 PM (1fg6a)

228 After making a big dealio about closing all Sports in Calif, Newsome just backed down and said Pro sports back open in a month.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2020 05:10 PM (NgKpN)

229 If I could find that sucker of cock who sued ZiCam, I would kick his ass every day for three months.

Posted by: garrett at May 18, 2020 05:05
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Aren't they back making the nasal swabs?

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at May 18, 2020 05:10 PM (Dhht7)

230 Whitmer when she shut down the state two months ago put out a list of acceptable procedures that a dentist can perform during the closure.

In many states, you can't even have your teeth cleaned unless your blood pressure is within a certain range.

Posted by: 🐧 at May 18, 2020 05:10 PM (C+evo)

231 That 90,000 number seems to be vastly inflated, due to intentional lying, for various motives. This is starting to be revealed.
---

And at least half of it is nursing home patients that were exterminated by democrat governors.

Posted by: Methos at May 18, 2020 05:11 PM (kOpft)

232 Even if it's a placebo, I bet that it has the desired effect.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:11 PM (hYcqw)

233 In many states, you can't even have your teeth cleaned unless your blood pressure is within a certain range.
Posted by: at May 18, 2020 05:10 PM (C+evo)

?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 05:11 PM (85Gof)

234 They did this 2 months ago..what pissses me off is that they are raising my state unemployment tax because they mandated my hygienist can not work?
Posted by: Nevergiveup


Don't want to pay the tax? Well then don't run a business- you've made a choice!

Posted by: The Garden State at May 18, 2020 05:11 PM (1fg6a)

235 201 The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is listed as a "strategic collaborator" on Moderna's website.

Coincidence...?
Posted by: brass pair at May 18, 2020 05:05 PM (7sdWQ)


Executive Order if the vaccine becomes real: Modena will produce it at a cost of no more than 50 cents a dose.

Lefties want a command and control economy? Here you go.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:11 PM (s2VJv)

236 Note, my little town of Atwater CA declared itself a Sanctuary City for BUSINESS last Friday.

Everything is open, including churches.

Not heard a pepe out of Newsome on this.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2020 05:11 PM (NgKpN)

237 204 Every time you have an employee file unemployment your rate will increase. No accident forgiveness like with LibertyMutual.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 18, 2020 05:12 PM (OFGpZ)

238 Aren't they back making the nasal swabs?


yeah but the active ingredient isn't zinc any longer

I agree I hate that bastard who sued Zicam

people HAVE to ruin things!

it was essentially the cure for the common cold!

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:12 PM (j9HX3)

239
This was essentially the story behind the Plandemic movie with Fauci playing a leading role.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05

Yeah buT as that gained traction they went overtime in pushing that one doctor as unreliable.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2020 05:12 PM (40d0J)

240 it's a treatment, given via IV, for very severe cases

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (j9HX3)
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But it's effects are best in pill form, pre-hospital is what I've read.

IV form is the wrong form, again, from what I've read.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:12 PM (Eicbe)

241 >"Seriously, click this link. All will become clear.


https://tinyurl.com/yanvjfff


--Posted by: JackStraw

Moderna (NASDAQ, ticker symbol MRNA) had gone up more than 300% since the middle of March.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 18, 2020 05:12 PM (z7PmS)

242 How does a font make a vaccine?

Posted by: DaveA at May 18, 2020 05:13 PM (FhXTo)

243
Drug testing in general is somewhat problematic. The safety studies are mostly short term. They do easily capture long-term, low incidence side effects. And they test generally with healthy, young volunteers when they get to human testing.

If it doesn't seem to harm or kill animals close enough to humans, they go to human testing. Occasionally something bad happens, when the new drug doesn't hurt the animals, but has some very specific effect on humans. I remember reading about one of those where the test subjects had severe reactions, some died and others where fucked up for life.

They don't test on elderly, sicker people, the ones who will take most of the drugs most likely, and they're finding that the elderly have significantly different responses to drugs that healthy young people.

Anyway, the bottom line for me is I won't take any drug unless it's been on the market for about 10 years. That's about the time period required for any long term problems to show up and be quantified.

Barring something severe of course, where I might die and some new drug could help. Risk vs. beneift.

Posted by: publius, who demands CVS head on a pike at May 18, 2020 05:13 PM (rCwaK)

244 232 Even if it's a placebo, I bet that it has the desired effect.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:11 PM (hYcqw)


I saw Placebo Domingo open for Milli Vanilli at La Scala. None of them were there, but there were three boom boxes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:13 PM (s2VJv)

245 ...I've tried for years to find out what the drug even was, since my mother doesn't remember and didn't keep any of the records from back then. I've narrowed it down to a few likely possibilities -- drug trials that were conducted that year....

===

*clicks on zombie's link

so you are saying there were no detectable consequences, right ?

I kid ! I kid !



Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:13 PM (zr5Kq)

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 18, 2020 05:13 PM (z7PmS)

247 Note, my little town of Atwater CA declared itself a Sanctuary City for BUSINESS last Friday.

Everything is open, including churches.

Not heard a pepe out of Newsome on this.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2020 05:11 PM (NgKpN)
+++++++++++
1) Little town.
B) Rhetoric.

CA loves its sanctuary status. Since it's just a small place doing it, why trigger an ... uncomfortable conversation?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:13 PM (hYcqw)

248 Chinese are already working on next year's version.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (H8QX8)

249 This is not like a typical flu year because the entire country was locked down and the after effects of this is going to far greater than a typical flu season. I don't think we have begun to see how this has affected families especially children. We aren;t seeing aything but Covid statistics. What about drug and alcohol abuse, domestic abuse, financial ruin. Covid may die down and the economy will recover but there are going to be some who never recover even if they never got the flu.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (QzF6i)

250 saw Placebo Domingo open for Milli Vanilli at La Scala. None of them were there, but there were three boom boxes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:13 PM (s2VJv)

Good one !

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (V8uX9)

251 >>Yeah buT as that gained traction they went overtime in pushing that one doctor as unreliable.

And the reason she said it happened was because of patents which are worth millions, maybe billions.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (ZLI7S)

252 How many times do we have to tell you? Roll up that damned sleeve!

Posted by: The Fauci-Gates Consortium at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (EgshT)

253 I know he doesn't like Trump but he sounds unhinged.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:01 PM (ZLI7S)

Welcome to the giggler's show Jack...its unwatchable most of the time. Who in the F...would put this economically illiterate buffoon on an afternoon business show is one question...but he also comes across like some sort of knucklehead trying to slip on banana peels to get folks to laugh at his retarded behavior. I think I this fat F more than Allahpundit, and that's a lot of hate right there

Posted by: Boswell at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (32YRo)

254 Jessie on The Five had me LMAO, comparing the Media learning that Trump was taking hydroxychloroquine to your daughter coming home from college and announcing she's pregnant.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (wiXsO)

255 I saw Placebo Domingo open for Milli Vanilli at La Scala. None of them were there, but there were three boom boxes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:13 PM (s2VJv)
++++++++
*snort*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (hYcqw)

256 Go read the article and see for yourself. Probably not a coincidence that the picture that accompanies the story is of Fauci who just happens to lead the NIH, the not so silent partner in this vaccine.


He is a mover and a shaker.

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:15 PM (zr5Kq)

257 Fauci needs to resign if he is intent on profiting from a vaccine in development. I think that is usually called a conflict of interest.

Of course its no conflict for him, he is not conflicted at all about what he is doing.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 05:15 PM (r+sAi)

258
Chinese are already working on next year's version.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (H8QX

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Of the vaccine???? Or the virus?

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:16 PM (nw6Hr)

259 I saw Placebo Domingo open for Milli Vanilli at La Scala.

No, that was at the Cow Palace.

Posted by: The Fauci-Gates Consortium at May 18, 2020 05:16 PM (EgshT)

260 "I saw Placebo Domingo open for Milli Vanilli at La Scala. None of them were there, but there were three boom boxes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton"


HOW DARE YOU!!!

Posted by: Greta T. at May 18, 2020 05:16 PM (OD2ni)

261 ZiCam still have about 2 boxes of the old and good ones. That shit worked so of course it had to be changed and/or taken off the market.
We are from the government and here to help... you into an early grave.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 05:16 PM (pw+jk)

262 Hell, wish I had saved it, but saw that in Tanzania
they refused covid testing from Gates or whoever. Said they put pawpaw
plants and the pawpaw plant test said "positive" for covid. Ha! Follow
their lead for a change of pace vs Cuomo's? I cannot remember what else
they tested. Reptiles, I think. One test was not conclusive...


Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Aging supermodel, Wuhan fighter at May 18, 2020 05:05 PM (SK2xO)

That was making the rounds a week or two ago - still lots of posts up - google can't drag them off fast enough. President of Tanzania turns down testing kits because jackfruit and goats were testing positive.
https://youtu.be/9WBAFQedumk

Posted by: clutch cargo at May 18, 2020 05:16 PM (8B6Ng)

263 I agree I hate that bastard who sued Zicam

people HAVE to ruin things!

it was essentially the cure for the common cold!

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:12
---------------------------
Was that law suit over 30 people supposedly losing sense of smell?

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at May 18, 2020 05:16 PM (Dhht7)

264 Fauci needs to resign if he is intent on profiting from a vaccine in development. I think that is usually called a conflict of interest.

Of course its no conflict for him, he is not conflicted at all about what he is doing.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 05:15 PM (r+sAi)
++++++++++++++
In this one case, a big government type will be extolling the virtues of the "invisible hand." People are protected, and he gets rich. The market works. Just this once.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:16 PM (hYcqw)

265 U.S. officials are preparing to begin checking passengers temperatures at roughly a dozen airports as soon as next week

Oh by the way, it is not a thermal temp...now just bend overe

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 05:17 PM (85Gof)

266 I don't care if this vaccine is the end all to be all. I will not take it.

I did the pneumonia shot that has been around for ever and it damn near killed me.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2020 05:17 PM (R6g1s)

267 I'm not getting any effing vaccine Gates or Fauci has anything to do with.

I was pro vaccine and thought those who didn't get their kids vaccinated were nuts, I've changed my mine.

Follow the money. Follow the intention.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 18, 2020 05:17 PM (jUVms)

268 I still get the zicam nasal spray and chewable tabs.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 05:17 PM (V8uX9)

269 I like the thought that Trump might have just trolled the Media with the HDQ thing.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:17 PM (bCLt0)

270 LOL. CNN is going to be wall-to-wall hydrochloroquine for the rest of
the week. I wonder if Trump is dropping this now because he knows some
news is coming on it.
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Didn't somebody say a doctor they follow on twitter expects a study to drop on the 20th?

Posted by: Methos at May 18, 2020 05:17 PM (kOpft)

271 Science says all you deplorables must be destroyed economically, lives ruined and starved to death in order to beat corona. Sorry about that but the science says so. Nothing we can do about it, just the way it is.

Posted by: Ripley at May 18, 2020 05:17 PM (MxEKc)

272 That 90,000 number seems to be vastly inflated, due to intentional lying, for various motives. This is starting to be revealed.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:06 PM (bCLt0)

Exactly. Even assuming the number is NOT inflated, my point is that this Chicken Little shit is over nothing but a normal freaking flu season.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2020 05:18 PM (ufFY8)

273
The third trial will begin in July, and will involve thousands of healthy volunteers


Formerly healthy volunteers. All will develop prehensile tails within one week of getting the test vaccine.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2020 05:18 PM (oTIO6)

274 269 I like the thought that Trump might have just trolled the Media with the HDQ thing.

Well it should help the doctors who are trying to prescribe it and are being denied..

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 05:18 PM (Zmnko)

275 236 Note, my little town of Atwater CA declared itself a Sanctuary City for BUSINESS last Friday.

Everything is open, including churches.

Not heard a pepe out of Newsome on this.
Posted by: Romeo13


Not heard a Pepe the Frog out of Newsom? Not surprised.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 05:18 PM (N9G0H)

276 258
Chinese are already working on next year's version.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (H8QX

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Of the vaccine???? Or the virus?
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:16 PM (nw6Hr)



Yes.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:18 PM (bCLt0)

277 I'm not getting any effing vaccine Gates or Fauci has anything to do with.

I was pro vaccine and thought those who didn't get their kids vaccinated were nuts, I've changed my mine.

Follow the money. Follow the intention.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 18, 2020 05:17 PM (jUVms)
+++++++++++
Time is a factor. I trust older vaccines - say, pre-1980 - from before everything was completely taken over by global crooks a lot more than I do more recent ones. Especially with this much public money and global policy involvement.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:18 PM (hYcqw)

278 258
Chinese are already working on next year's version.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 05:14 PM (H8QX

-------

Of the vaccine???? Or the virus?
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:16 PM (nw6Hr)

Embrace the might and power of the word

AND

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2020 05:19 PM (NgKpN)

279 Formerly healthy volunteers. All will develop prehensile tails within one week of getting the test vaccine.



I feel like a new prehensile tail would just make me MORE healthy! seems cool

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:19 PM (j9HX3)

280 "The third trial will begin in July, and will involve thousands of healthy volunteers."

I hear Karen screaming that we'll all be dead by then.

Posted by: csmats at May 18, 2020 05:19 PM (X5VFN)

281
ZiCam still have about 2 boxes of the old and good ones. That shit worked so of course it had to be changed and/or taken off the market.
We are from the government and here to help... you into an early grave.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 05:16 PM (pw+jk)


---------

*I* have to sign a log, provide a thumb print and undergo criminal screening to buy freaking Sudafed.

Meanwhile...... any junkie can go into Walgreens and buy insulin needles without a prescription. Or the insulin.


Upside down world we live in... no??

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:19 PM (nw6Hr)

282 I haven't watch fox since the Kelly debate in 2016 where she bled out.
Never did like Cavuto. He NEEDS to wear a mask as ugly inside and out. Bitter. Whiny twit.
I am not an anti-vaxxer, but am not going to blindly take this for fear of a man-made virus with man-made numbers. You go into the hospital with a broken ankle. Somehow fall, get trauma to brain, die of covid. The numbers, to pocket hospitals for the diagnosis code and if you go on vent, more $$. NOPE.
We will never know how many millions died in Chyna. I mean, apt buildings were welded shut and burned. Plus the pre-dead tent hospitals with one bathroom for 500 people and no medication nor medical personnel. I forget how many millions of cell phone numbers not working, as daid and ashes buried.
Read of large fires in Mexico the other day. So guess their crematoriums are going gang-busters (we wish some were gangs). Iran digging mass graves.

That said, I never really thought the USA would skew numbers. Yes, I am still that naive. When Biff scarf lady said she thought HALF of CDC's numbers would be correct, well, I thought, "Hmmm, dat do sound about right." Fauci-bird is a twitster wee man. SARS is part of covid. And he felt the quinine/z-pack meds worked fine on SARS a few years ago. What a conundrum, no?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Aging supermodel, Wuhan fighter at May 18, 2020 05:19 PM (SK2xO)

283 U.S. officials are preparing to begin checking passengers temperatures at roughly a dozen airports as soon as next week

==

How about blood pressure ? Oxygenation level ??


Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:19 PM (zr5Kq)

284 The third trial will begin in July, and will involve thousands of healthy volunteers



Formerly healthy volunteers. All will develop prehensile tails within one week of getting the test vaccine.[i/]

So, what's the downside?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - fighting with a dying hard drive at May 18, 2020 05:20 PM (SchxB)

285 ....Fauci-bird is a twitster wee man. SARS is part of covid. And he felt the quinine/z-pack meds worked fine on SARS a few years ago. What a conundrum, no?
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Aging supermodel, Wuhan fighter at May 18, 2020 05:19 PM (SK2xO)


Yes.


Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:20 PM (zr5Kq)

286 Needless to say that drug never made it to the market.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (N9G0H)


************
That is a nightmare. I'm glad you're okay. You're mom must have been devastated with worry.

Posted by: Venus at May 18, 2020 05:20 PM (iYXhj)

287 Moderna will leak rumor the vaccine has been found to lengthen the penis by 1/2 to 2 inches.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 05:20 PM (V8uX9)

288 U.S. officials are preparing to begin checking passengers temperatures at roughly a dozen airports as soon as next week

==

How about blood pressure ? Oxygenation level ??


Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:19 PM (zr5Kq)

Well if you can do that anally also, hell go for it!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 05:20 PM (85Gof)

289 Formerly healthy volunteers. All will develop prehensile tails within one week of getting the test vaccine.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2020 05:18 PM (oTIO6)
++++++++++++
A net plus for office workers. You can use the mouse and leave your hands on they keyboard where they belong...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (hYcqw)

290 Agree with Guy Smiley -- 65-70 year old HCQ and Z-pak, which no one makes money on (and which seems to work damn well) gets shat on by the media and the Left, but we're going to try new, untrusted drugs?

They really hate Trump, and us, a lot, don't they?

Posted by: acethepug at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (qPKAe)

291
265 U.S. officials are preparing to begin checking passengers temperatures at roughly a dozen airports as soon as next week

Oh by the way, it is not a thermal temp...now just bend overe
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2020 05:17 PM (85Gof)

So, you run a little temp, which could be for a plethora of reasons, and what, get sent home ???? Brilliant !!!!

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (bCLt0)

292
Placebo Domingo


LOL

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (oTIO6)

293 Just got back from Bellmawr, NJ gymnasium video.

Cops with brains

Been informed it was on national TV.
It's a crack in the damn and the pressure is up to the locks.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (NyTrm)

294 Sorry, new UNTESTED drugs.

Posted by: acethepug at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (qPKAe)

295 We're all healthy volunteers together. Stay safe.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (EgshT)

296 Only a Friend of Russia would take a Covid-19 vaccine.

Posted by: MSDNC at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (V+K4K)

297

How about a prehensile penis? That might be ... useful.

Posted by: publius, who demands CVS head on a pike at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (rCwaK)

298 https://bit.ly/2yhjV8U
********
Ken Osmond Dead: 'Leave It to Beaver's' Eddie Haskell Was 76 Variety
*******
there is the 3rd
*********
wait John Holmes died again ??

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 05:22 PM (mwLLf)

299
So, you run a little temp, which could be for a plethora of reasons, and what, get sent home ???? Brilliant !!!!
Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (bCLt0)



yeah. about that...

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:22 PM (zr5Kq)

300 Hans Mahncke @HansMahncke
23m
Oh look, the Unmasker in Chief is upset about Trump's health care choices.

Samantha Power @SamanthaJPower
The last time Trump pushed this it led to shortages for patients who are prescribed #hydroxychloroquine for chronic illnesses. So selfish to push for #covid without any science backing.

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 05:22 PM (mwLLf)

301 How about a prehensile penis? That might be ... useful.

Be real careful not to grab anything hot.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - fighting with a dying hard drive at May 18, 2020 05:22 PM (SchxB)

302 They really hate Trump, and us, a lot, don't they?
Posted by: acethepug at May 18, 2020 05:21 PM (qPKAe)
++++++++++++
Almost as much as they love insider dealing on patent medicine.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:22 PM (hYcqw)

303 Newsom is folding.

@fox5sandiego

Under a new set of rules, most counties can now move further into Phase 2, including things such as dine-in at restaurants and shopping inside stores

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (ZLI7S)

304 I saw Placebo Domingo open for Milli Vanilli at La Scala. None of them were there, but there were three boom boxes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton



There. are. three. tenors!

Posted by: Hands at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (786Ro)

305 All this talk of whether to get possible vaccine or not: most of you probably know this, but just met someone who did not, and had developed shingles, which being from Holland, they called HellFire (it can be painful). Any of you over 50, 55, might want to get the "shingles" vaccine. Long story short, chickenpox hangs around in your body until you are a bit older, and then causes new, serious problems, commonly called shingles. The vaccine prevents that. I got the shot 5-6 years ago. My understanding is that there is a better/different version now, than what I took.

Posted by: MikeM at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (hQz6J)

306 Samantha Power @SamanthaJPower
The last time Trump pushed this it led to shortages for patients who are prescribed #hydroxychloroquine for chronic illnesses. So selfish to push for #covid without any science backing.

BS bitch

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (Zmnko)

307 I'm also in the camp of waiting before I take a Corona vaccine.

Of course we'll never know if it's actually safe, if one person comes forward with any negative effect they will have their lives ruined.

I'm just not afraid of this virus to begin with, it's not like it's Polio.

Posted by: Blago at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (Ihsvk)

308 @CBS_Herridge

#FLYNN 12+ State Attorneys General led by Ohio AG Dave Yost file amicus brief in support DOJ's motion to dismiss without commentary, "because such punditry disrobes the judiciary of its cloak of impartiality."

https://tinyurl.com/ybkex2hx

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (cF8AT)

309 "The third trial will begin in July, and will involve thousands of healthy volunteers."

_____________________

That seems discriminatory. What about the bat shit crazy people like the Health Secretary of Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Orson at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (UX8oP)

310 I saw Placibo Domingo open for The Mormon Tabernacle Choir at the Met back in 1998.

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (zr5Kq)

311 283 U.S. officials are preparing to begin checking passengers temperatures at roughly a dozen airports as soon as next week

==
How about blood pressure ? Oxygenation level ??

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:19 PM (zr5Kq)


Sign up with *Trans Love Airways and receive free physicals.

*not associated with transgenderism or any other non-specific sex.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (NyTrm)

312 For those who say they won't take it. Would you have passed on the first round of the smallpox vaccine?

Posted by: An Observation at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (RxKAk)

313 All this talk of whether to get possible vaccine or not: most of you probably know this, but just met someone who did not, and had developed shingles, which being from Holland, they called HellFire (it can be painful). Any of you over 50, 55, might want to get the "shingles" vaccine. Long story short, chickenpox hangs around in your body until you are a bit older, and then causes new, serious problems, commonly called shingles. The vaccine prevents that. I got the shot 5-6 years ago. My understanding is that there is a better/different version now, than what I took.
Posted by: MikeM at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (hQz6J)

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I had shingles about five years ago.

NOT FUN AT ALL.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (nw6Hr)

314 I'm glad to hear the other idiot Dem governors are backing down

but Wolf will not. he is CRAZY.

seriously he's nuttier than a squirrel's belly. he's completely off his family-made rocker!!!

someone has to depose him, stop him, the legislature SHOULD do it but they're useless

oh well!

PA is still screwed

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (j9HX3)

315 Gold is closing on 1900 an ounce, but its not going to last. Sell if you have it, soon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (KZzsI)

316 Samantha Power @SamanthaJPower
The last time Trump pushed this it led to shortages for patients who are prescribed #hydroxychloroquine for chronic illnesses. So selfish to push for #covid without any science backing.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 05:22 PM (mwLLf)
++++++++++++++
Anyone care to ask her opinion on industrial repatriation so we have the industrial and supply chain flexibility to accommodate emergency production of critical equipment, medicines, etc.?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (hYcqw)

317 Jerry Stiller, Fred Willard and now Eddie Haskell.

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (mwLLf)

318
303 Newsom is folding.

@fox5sandiego

Under a new set of rules, most counties can now move further into Phase 2, including things such as dine-in at restaurants and shopping inside stores
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (ZLI7S)

Obviously a Menshevik, not a Bolshevik. He won't do.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (bCLt0)

319 186 Trump has Lupus !!!
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 05:02 PM (V8uX9)


Who has Martin Landau?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (s2VJv)

320 If Obama was president we'd have a vaccine by now!

Posted by: Tater swelter at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (Eicbe)

321 306 Samantha Power @SamanthaJPower
The last time Trump pushed this it led to shortages for patients who are prescribed #hydroxychloroquine for chronic illnesses. So selfish to push for #covid without any science backing.

BS bitch

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (Zmnko)

Wait...I thought it was a dangerous drug!?!

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (cF8AT)

322 How about the Salk Vaccine for polio? Would you have passed on that?

Posted by: An Observation at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (RxKAk)

323 very good advice to get the shingles vaccine!

Shingles is incredibly painful !!!

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (j9HX3)

324
Forty years ago today
Mt St. Helens blew her top away

Posted by: Hands at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (786Ro)

325 185 Jewells, you asked if Zicam contained zinc in the previous thread ?

no, it no longer does

which SUCKS

I still have boxes of the swabs WITH ZINC here - they took the zinc out b/c some people had their sense of smell temporarily impacted by using it (I never have, and the effect wasn't permanent)

anyway so yeah no zinc in Zicam anymore

I just get supplements BUT I do save those old swabs for real colds - stops EVERYTHING if you use them for like a day when you feel symptoms starting. it's freaking MAGIC.

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:02 PM (j9HX3)

Those things were amazing. I was pissed when they got pulled off the market.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (Ez6QX)

326 313
I had shingles about five years ago.

NOT FUN AT ALL.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (nw6Hr)


Get the vaccine.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (s2VJv)

327 Jerry Stiller, Fred Willard and now Eddie Haskell.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (mwLLf)

Death of the double Ls

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (V8uX9)

328 So Neil doesn't like HQC - you know who likes it? Tucker and Ingraham - maybe Neil should go into the Fox executive offices and complain about these two - maybe lay down the ultimatum - that worked out pretty well for Shep, just saying.

Posted by: Boswell at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (32YRo)

329 Formerly healthy volunteers. All will develop prehensile tails within one week of getting the test vaccine.

Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Diesel Jones at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (0CeRG)

330 For those who say they won't take it. Would you have passed on the first round of the smallpox vaccine?
Posted by: An Observation at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (RxKAk)
++++++++++++++
No, I probably wouldn't have. Nor polio. Severity has something to do with it. Smallpox and polio are *hugely* dangerous diseases. COVID doesn't appear to be, outside of certain groups.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (hYcqw)

331 Just kidding, folks.

Posted by: Moderna at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (O7JoB)

332
#FLYNN 12+ State Attorneys General led by Ohio AG Dave Yost file amicus brief in support DOJ's motion to dismiss without commentary, "because such punditry disrobes the judiciary of its cloak of impartiality."


Good after reading that the judge Sullivan chose to do a brief wanted witnesses now, this has to end

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (Zmnko)

333 303 Newsom is folding.

@fox5sandiego

Under a new set of rules, most counties can now move further into Phase 2, including things such as dine-in at restaurants and shopping inside stores
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (ZLI7S)

Its because no one here is listening anymore.

Was at Target earlier, normal crowds, only about 1/5th wearing masks, although people were still distancing.

Was funny as it is right next to Walmart, where everyone HAS to wear masks, and there is a long line to even get in.

Bike shop in Modesto Ca on Saturday. CROWDED, and not a single person there in a mask.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (NgKpN)

334 228 After making a big dealio about closing all Sports in Calif, Newsome just backed down and said Pro sports back open in a month.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2020 05:10 PM (NgKpN)

All Reruns and No Lakers Make South LA Go Mad

Posted by: kbdabear at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (qAR6u)

335 286 Needless to say that drug never made it to the market.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 04:46 PM (N9G0H)


************
That is a nightmare. I'm glad you're okay. You're mom must have been devastated with worry.
Posted by: Venus


LOL. You don't know my mother. Me being sick was just an annoyance. Between chain-smoking, obsessing night and day about my father's philandering, going to her therapist several times a week, and having anorexia, worrying about some cranky baby was the least of her concerns. She didn't even tell me what happened until I was 18 years old, accidentally as part of some other thing she was saying.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (N9G0H)

336 328 So Neil doesn't like HQC - you know who likes it? Tucker and Ingraham - maybe Neil should go into the Fox executive offices and complain about these two - maybe lay down the ultimatum - that worked out pretty well for Shep, just saying.

Tucker and laura have been great on this

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (Zmnko)

337 Sell if you have it, soon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (KZzsI)

Where is the best place to sell?

Posted by: Hmmm at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (VCJ/o)

338 I have yet to see corroborated proof of these crematorium fires in Mexico or the "millions" of Chinese welded shut in their apartments.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (EgshT)

339 Newsom is folding.

@fox5sandiego
Under a new set of rules, most counties can now move further into Phase 2, including things such as dine-in at restaurants and shopping inside stores
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (ZLI7S)
++++++++++++
Wow. Good job, colonists. You have flipped my state (CO) so completely that CA is opening up faster.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (hYcqw)

340 I had shingles about five years ago.

NOT FUN AT ALL.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (nw6Hr)
---
Had my whole roof redone. Only thing painful was the price tag.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (Eicbe)

341 Shingles is an ailment I once had, it was so bad I prayed for the Lord above to take this cup from my lips and let me go to my reward... I was 46 years old at the time.
Yes, that is a vaccine I took the minute I turned 50.

Posted by: navybrat at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (w7KSn)

342 327 Jerry Stiller, Fred Willard and now Eddie Haskell.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (mwLLf)

Death of the double Ls
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (V8uX9)


Bill and Hillary next???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (s2VJv)

343 Since it's come up, and I may have written this before, but re: HQC and zpac -- my mom is a (legal) immigrant from a non-English speaking European country. She and my dad get satellite channels from her home country and the news programs there are filled with stories about the many, many countries using HQC and zpac to treat COVID-19 and the incredibly high success rates, specifically for people in early stages of the disease. Once the disease progresses past a certain point, it has little to no effect.

Many doctors and nurses (even in the USA) are taking HQC as a prophylactic as well. I have that not only from my mom's channels, but from two of my cousins (1 is a doctor, another is a physician's assistant, or "PA").

Posted by: Venus at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (iYXhj)

344 Equating the 'Rona with polio, smallpox, or pneumonia seems a bit much.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (bCLt0)

345 Zicam doesn't have zinc anymore? Back to
cold ezze.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (V8uX9)

346 Bill and Melinda Gates = Voldemort and Bellatrix

Posted by: Grannymimi at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (u5LFV)

347
Note, my little town of Atwater CA declared itself a Sanctuary City for BUSINESS last Friday.

Everything is open, including churches.

Not heard a pepe out of Newsome on this.
Posted by: Romeo13







Here in Clovis, the city council voted to begin reopening over a week ago, also telling the PD to focus on crime and to largely ignore state directives.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (EGyGV)

348 https://bit.ly/3g3rp03
*********
Coronavirus Cases in Pennsylvania Drop as State Gradually Reopens
*******

I'm glad to hear the other idiot Dem governors are backing down

but Wolf will not. he is CRAZY.

seriously he's nuttier than a squirrel's belly. he's completely off his family-made rocker!!!

someone has to depose him, stop him, the legislature SHOULD do it but they're useless

oh well!

PA is still screwed
Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (j9HX3)
*******
Don't know if it is an act, But if not Mental Help

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (mwLLf)

349 328 So Neil doesn't like HQC - you know who likes it? Tucker and Ingraham - maybe Neil should go into the Fox executive offices and complain about these two - maybe lay down the ultimatum - that worked out pretty well for Shep, just saying.
Posted by: Boswell at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (32YRo)

HQC is not recommended for those with certain health issues.

Like my Mom, who has a slight heart condition.

Could be Neil's issues preclude him as well.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (NgKpN)

350 I swear most of Trump's decisions are made with two criteria:


Does it help America?

Does it give the idiots in the Press a chance to look very stupid?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (pUDQf)

351
I have had shingles maybe 5 times so far. Even got the vaccine.

But I'm not normal, because of rheumatoid arthritis and the immune suppressing drugs I take. Rheumy took me off them for a month to get the vaccine, then had to wait another month before starting up.

Didn't do squat. That little zoster virus like to hang in the nerves in my forehead. It will pop up. My docs have me stocked up with acyclovir.

Posted by: publius, who demands CVS head on a pike at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (rCwaK)

352 As a 1950's 1960's army brat I've had lots of vaccines. Filled up those yellow shot record books.

I was Uncle Sam's pin cushion.

I'm okay with a coronavirus vaccine. Bring it.

Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (V+K4K)

353 Bike shop in Modesto Ca on Saturday. CROWDED, and not a single person there in a mask.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (NgKpN)

Lots of things in Modesto waiting to kill you before the Wu Flu does

Posted by: kbdabear at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (qAR6u)

354 Okay. I will get the vaccine but only if it contains mercury.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (e1mEI)

355 *HCQ not HQC

Posted by: Venus at May 18, 2020 05:28 PM (iYXhj)

356 @SamanthaJPower
The last time Trump pushed this it led to shortages for patients who are prescribed #hydroxychloroquine for chronic illnesses. So selfish to push for #covid without any science backing.



lol
Learn to medical code

Posted by: AAPC at May 18, 2020 05:28 PM (786Ro)

357 I sort of Gell-Manned myself today. Cavuto was explaining why he's a better doctor than Trump and he was getting a doctor to sort of agree with him and I hated them both.

Then the doctor explains the process by which this new vaccine works and how there's no dead or live virus there's just messenger RNA that's been sent with the virus message and he sounded like the smartest guy ever.

Also, if this works, it can be applied to everything and those people are going to make all of the money.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2020 05:28 PM (gd9RK)

358 A professional football [soccer] team in South Korea has apologised after "mannequins" it used as substitute fans during a match at the weekend turned out to be sex dolls.

The K-League club FC Seoul said the dolls, which had been dotted around stands currently off-limits to supporters due to the coronavirus outbreak, had been ordered inadvertently after a "misunderstanding" with the supplier.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 18, 2020 05:28 PM (TQ/zJ)

359 Bill and Hillary next???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (s2VJv)
*******
Above my pay grade

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 05:28 PM (mwLLf)

360 Okay. I will get the vaccine but only if it contains mercury.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (e1mEI)
+++++++++++
Would that make you ... mercurial?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:28 PM (hYcqw)

361 I just got over a case of the shingles. It was quite enjoyable. I liked the spontaneous hot stabbing pain the best.

Posted by: Alt Karen at May 18, 2020 05:28 PM (O7JoB)

362 Samantha Power @SamanthaJPower
The last time Trump pushed this it led to shortages for patients who are prescribed #hydroxychloroquine for chronic illnesses. So selfish to push for #covid without any science backing.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 05:22 PM (mwLLf)
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Obama and his minions are really coming out of the woodwork, aren't they? Scurrying around like cockroaches exposed to sunlight.

I wonder what may have caused all this?

It's a mystery.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 05:28 PM (WEBkv)

363 347
Note, my little town of Atwater CA declared itself a Sanctuary City for BUSINESS last Friday.

Everything is open, including churches.

Not heard a pepe out of Newsome on this.
Posted by: Romeo13







Here in Clovis, the city council voted to begin reopening over a week ago, also telling the PD to focus on crime and to largely ignore state directives.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (EGyGV)

A well known Military saying:

Don't give an order you KNOW your Men won't follow.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2020 05:29 PM (NgKpN)

364 312 For those who say they won't take it. Would you have passed on the first round of the smallpox vaccine?

Posted by: An Observation at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (RxKAk)



It was illegal in some states when it came out.
Thomas Jefferson traveled to PA for his inoculation.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 05:29 PM (NyTrm)

365 but TJ was a libertine

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 05:29 PM (NyTrm)

366 "Lots of things in Modesto waiting to kill you before the Wu Flu does
Posted by: kbdabear"


You can't prove a thing.

Posted by: Gary Condit at May 18, 2020 05:29 PM (OD2ni)

367 For those who say they won't take it. Would you have passed on the first round of the smallpox vaccine?
Posted by: An Observation at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (RxKAk)

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False equivalency.

Small pox was a scourge for centuries. Killed millions.

If "small pox" was a recent reiteration of a Cold virus that had a survival rate of 99.287% and approaching 100% for people under 65 with no co morbidies, and didnt leave people horribly scarred for life if they survived???

Why yes... I would pass.

Now if "Covid had a infectiion of 50%, killed an overwhelming number if those infected regardless of age and left survivors horribly scarred for life???

Yeah.... sign me up.



Not what you wanted to hear was it Karen?

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:29 PM (nw6Hr)

368 How about blood pressure ? Oxygenation level ??

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:19 PM (zr5Kq)


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*not associated with transgenderism or any other non-specific sex.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (NyTrm)

This has legs. Airlines need a boost.

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 05:30 PM (zr5Kq)

369
Think of all the back alley, coat hanger vaccinations! Oh, the humanity!

Posted by: publius, who demands CVS head on a pike at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (rCwaK)

370 Awww....Eddie Haskell died.

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (cF8AT)

371 Drive through dental cleanings, might be tough to reach in though the window.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (ZCEU2)

372 Latest Nextdoor Karen post.

I'm at the laundromat over here on San Andre's right by the bakery and even though there are signs everywere posted that you must wear a mask, half the people here are not wearing them. I will complain when I see the owner.
I really like that this Karen will complaing to the owner bit.

Gold, Jerry GOLD!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (pw+jk)

373 Still pissed that Barr makes it a point to preemptively dismiss any investigation or charges against Obama and Biden.


I mean, WTF? We need a new name for the 'Justice' department.

Maybe the 'Ehh, Fuckit' department.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (pUDQf)

374 no, it no longer does

That's what I thought. Thank you.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (dUJdY)

375 A pox on the Zicam litigants. I used to rely on that stuff.

I use Therazinc lozenges. But it's not the same because you can't stick them up your nose.

Posted by: Hands at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (786Ro)

376
Many doctors and nurses (even in the USA) are taking HQC as a prophylactic as well.
Posted by: Venus at May 18, 2020 05:27 PM (iYXhj)






Teenage boys nationwide are now telling girls in the backseat "We don't need a condom. I'm taking HQC, it's a prophylactic."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (EGyGV)

377 I got the shot 5-6 years ago. My understanding is that there is a better/different version now, than what I took.
Posted by: MikeM at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (hQz6J)


Walmart does them for about $10.00
My primary charges $100.00.
I don't want a shot from Wally.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (NyTrm)

378 False equivalency.


Yep.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 18, 2020 05:32 PM (EgshT)

379 358 A professional football [soccer] team in South Korea has apologised after "mannequins" it used as substitute fans during a match at the weekend turned out to be sex dolls.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 18, 2020 05:28 PM (TQ/zJ)

Should be easier to get the VD test than the Chicom#19 test.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 18, 2020 05:32 PM (e1mEI)

380 99 Does this mean that Karens will eventually have to find something else to bitch about.
Posted by: Latex Face Mask at May 18, 2020 04:51 PM (8FfnY)

***************

Yes, but don't worry -- they will.

Posted by: Venus at May 18, 2020 05:32 PM (iYXhj)

381 Tucker and laura have been great on this

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (Zmnko)

They have - they've become the two only watchable shows from end to end...Okay, I get Hannity, but he makes me want to carve my eyes out with rusty spoons. Tucker is a bit of an elitist at times, and not everything he says is worth listening to, but Laura has been a beast lately.

Posted by: Boswell at May 18, 2020 05:32 PM (32YRo)

382 Yes, but don't worry -- they will.
Posted by: Venus at May 18, 2020 05:32 PM (iYXhj)
++++++++++++
As sure as the sun rises in the east.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 18, 2020 05:33 PM (hYcqw)

383 MikeM: "Any of you over 50, 55, might want to get the 'shingles' vaccine. Long story short, chickenpox hangs around in your body until you are a bit older, and then causes new, serious problems, commonly called shingles. The vaccine prevents that..."

I've heard doctors going either way on this. I think it's still in debate as to whether or not the shingles vaccine is helpful or hurtful. WRT flu, tetanus, diptheria and whatnot, I'm all in. Shingles no. Not yet anyway. Still too much risk of downside with complications and questionable effectiveness. I was surprised to hear that, but that's been my experience.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 18, 2020 05:33 PM (HhXSr)

384 Don't give an order you KNOW your Men won't follow.

Yeah its a secret to leadership

You can't prove a thing.
Posted by: Gary Condit


Guilty as sin, free as a bird

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 05:33 PM (KZzsI)

385 Karens are really mad at this news.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 18, 2020 05:33 PM (izfCj)

386 For those who say they won't take it. Would you have passed on the first round of the smallpox vaccine?

Posted by: An Observation at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (RxKAk)
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Bill and Melinda Gates Population Control Foundation wasn't involved with the smallpox vaccine.

We didn't politicize epidemics back then. Same can't be said necessarily for today.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:33 PM (Eicbe)

387 Where is gold closing on 1900?

I'm seeing 1732.

Posted by: Hmmm at May 18, 2020 05:33 PM (VCJ/o)

388 Posted by: Boswell at May 18, 2020 05:32 PM (32YRo)


Or jab hot pokers into your ears.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 05:34 PM (NyTrm)

389 Any of you over 50, 55, might want to get the "shingles" vaccine. Long story short, chickenpox hangs around in your body until you are a bit older, and then causes new, serious problems, commonly called shingles. The vaccine prevents that. I got the shot 5-6 years ago. My understanding is that there is a better/different version now, than what I took.
Posted by: MikeM at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (hQz6J)
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I had the zoster sine herpete version. 6 doctors and 6 months to figure it out.

Posted by: BluesFish at May 18, 2020 05:34 PM (gRXTc)

390 Re: Boswell

"Tucker is a bit of an elitist at times"

He is, and admits it openly.

He just thinks our current elites are morons, and not the good kind.

Posted by: Flubber at May 18, 2020 05:34 PM (PQnIX)

391 Quick!!!

We must destroy the greedy pharmaceutical companies and have only incompetent government minions creating vaccines!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2020 05:34 PM (XcXPC)

392 Any of you over 50, 55, might want to get the 'shingles' vaccine. Long story short, chickenpox hangs around in your body until you are a bit older, and then causes new, serious problems, commonly called shingles.

Shingles really sucks, I had it in my 40s. However, unless this stuff is shown to have no serious side effects and really work, I'd wait on that. They won't kill you, they just are miserable for a while.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 05:34 PM (KZzsI)

393 aw man, Fred Willard too?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 18, 2020 05:34 PM (ifmtJ)

394 326 313
I had shingles about five years ago.

NOT FUN AT ALL.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (nw6Hr)


Get the vaccine.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (s2VJv)
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By all means YES.

Here's something most people probably don't know: Sometimes shingles never goes away completely. The weird nerve-damage itching and tingling can remain after the shingles outbreak. There's no treatment for it and it's usually forever.

Postherpetic neuralgia. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (sWM8x)

395
old and busted: Korean AI girl on OM's chess and dress thread

new hotness: Korean sexbot soccer hooligans

Posted by: Hands at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (786Ro)

396 Ben Had you have mail

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (dUJdY)

397 Drive through dental cleanings, might be tough to reach in though the window.
Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (ZCEU2)
---------------

Maybe get NGU's take on this.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (WEBkv)

398 That's a lovely robe you're wearing today, St. Peter.

Posted by: Eddie Haskell at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (Eicbe)

399 I'm here to tell you right now, that there will be no lockdown on my ballsack! My nuts are essential and if we have to go to war, "Liberty or Death!"

"Deus hoc vult!"

Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (95j/9)

400 Bill and Melinda Gates Population Control Foundation wasn't involved with the smallpox vaccine.

We didn't politicize epidemics back then. Same can't be said necessarily for today.
Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:33 PM (Eicbe


No shit. I would have trusted the government back then. It wasn't infested with Gates and Soros and Obama minions.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (pUDQf)

401 Gold $1,739 down $9 right now.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (TQ/zJ)

402 For those who say they won't take it. Would you have passed on the first round of the smallpox vaccine?

Yes. But I might reconsider for a little child.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (KZzsI)

403 8/9 top states for WUFLu deaths are blue. Gotta day my give a fuck meter about all this shit is close to 0 right about now.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (izfCj)

404 Karens are really mad at this news.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 18, 2020 05:33 PM (izfCj)

I think it was Roger Simon who said the "Silencing of the Karens" can't come soon enough...

Posted by: Boswell at May 18, 2020 05:36 PM (32YRo)

405 321 306 Samantha Power @SamanthaJPower
The last time Trump pushed this it led to shortages for patients who are prescribed #hydroxychloroquine for chronic illnesses. So selfish to push for #covid without any science backing.

BS bitch

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 05:23 PM (Zmnko)

Wait...I thought it was a dangerous drug!?!
Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (cF


Yeah they keep forgetting what they want to push. Can't decide on if Trump was pushing for people to eat fish tank cleaner or if he was suggesting people take a valid medical drug and are depriving the people that actually need it.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2020 05:36 PM (40d0J)

406 403 8/9 top states for WUFLu deaths are blue. Gotta day my give a fuck meter about all this shit is close to 0 right about now.

CA is one and that's not fair.. we have over 40 million people

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 05:36 PM (Zmnko)

407 We didn't politicize epidemics back then. Same can't be said necessarily for today.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:33 PM (Eicbe)


see # 364

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 05:36 PM (NyTrm)

408 I got the shingles shot last year. The first shot is kind of expensive, and a few months later I got the second shot, which was cheaper. Got it at the local supermarket pharmacy.

Posted by: Colin at May 18, 2020 05:37 PM (pwDQR)

409
A well known Military saying:

Don't give an order you KNOW your Men won't follow.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2020 05:29 PM (NgKpN)





Which is why my chain of command only RECOMMENDED that we avoid banging the European tourist chicks on the beach when I was stationed in Egypt *koffkoff* years ago.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2020 05:37 PM (EGyGV)

410 Gold $1,739 down $9 right now.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (TQ/

Yep. Still far from 1900.


Where is the best place to sell it?

Posted by: Hmmm at May 18, 2020 05:37 PM (VCJ/o)

411 I had shingles about five years ago.

NOT FUN AT ALL.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (nw6Hr)


Get the vaccine.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 05:25 PM (s2VJv)
---
By all means YES.

Here's something most people probably don't know: Sometimes shingles never goes away completely. The weird nerve-damage itching and tingling can remain after the shingles outbreak. There's no treatment for it and it's usually forever.

Postherpetic neuralgia. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (sWM8x)

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Yes..... Ive had the vaccine since my outbreak. No problems since.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:37 PM (nw6Hr)

412 The people I have known who had shingles have had various severities. From meh to kill me now. Some have had recurrences, one even with having the vaccine. My take is shingles analysis is not cut and dried.

Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:37 PM (bCLt0)

413 The Bill and Melinda Gates Who Needs the Superfluous Population Foundation.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:38 PM (Eicbe)

414 AlaBAMA: "Still pissed that Barr makes it a point to preemptively dismiss any investigation or charges against Obama and Biden."

Yeah, they should at least be made to sweat even if no actual charges are being made. We know they did wrong and almost assuredly (like 99.999% certainty) illegal, but they should not get carte blanche to attack Trump on this issue with no blowback on them for doing so with their dirty involvement in a coup. Barr pretty much immunizes them on perhaps the biggest political scandal in American history.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 18, 2020 05:38 PM (HhXSr)

415 NOT FUN AT ALL.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:24 PM (nw6Hr)

It is known - I had it at age 45...man oh man, the most painful thing that has ever happened and I have had broken limbs and gotten run over once riding a bike, and nothing compared to Shingles!

Posted by: Boswell at May 18, 2020 05:38 PM (32YRo)

416 Awww....Eddie Haskell died.
Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2020 05:31 PM (cF8AT)

I was just on Ken Osmond's wikipedia page and he was a cop for years after he was done with Hollywood, and was shot five times during a foot chase. Four of them into his body armor, one off his belt buckle. It wasn't clear from the bad writing, but it sounds like he was wounded, but the body armor and belt buckle saved his life.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Easily Distracted at May 18, 2020 05:39 PM (x8Wzq)

417 Meanwhile, in the deep Blue State of Oregon, a county judge struck down the governor's lockdown regulations as unconstitutional. Oregon's constitution allows the the governor 28 days to act like a dictator during emergencies, but after the 28 day limit, the legislature must approve emergency regulations. Times up.

Posted by: mrp at May 18, 2020 05:39 PM (Pqytn)

418 Gold $1,739 down $9 right now.

Yeah I don't think its going to go up again for a while.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 05:39 PM (KZzsI)

419 312....

You're really comparing Smallpox to WuFlu?! My G_D!

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 18, 2020 05:39 PM (/MVaz)

420 When I was a member of MENSA, it seemed that their #1 issue was overpopulation. And how the truly brilliant could handle solving this "problem".

From what I have read about the Gates foundation, I think some of the smartest people have been at work on this problem.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:40 PM (Eicbe)

421 Where is the best place to sell it?
India??

Posted by: andycanuck at May 18, 2020 05:40 PM (TQ/zJ)

422 Of course, the governor of Oregon immediately announced that she would appeal the lower court's ruling to the state supreme court, because, reasons.

Posted by: mrp at May 18, 2020 05:40 PM (Pqytn)

423 Ace's NOOD is now accepting comments !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2020 05:40 PM (arJlL)

424
Read the early history of attempts at a polio vaccine. See the infamous Cutter Incident. There was a flaw in the attenuation and the vaccine caused 40K cases of polio in the children given the vaccine. It killed 10, and permanently paralyzed 200.

Posted by: publius, who demands CVS head on a pike at May 18, 2020 05:40 PM (rCwaK)

425 Most painful event in my life was when I was on an old abandoned trailer, the flooring was gone so it was just frame. It was tilted on one end and I was trying to get it to tilt down like a teeter totter by jumping on it, and my foot slipped. I fell down and straddled the bar. Straight down onto my pills.

I saw stars, I almost blacked out. That's the worst physical pain I've ever felt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 05:41 PM (KZzsI)

426 It is known - I had it at age 45...man oh man, the most painful thing that has ever happened and I have had broken limbs and gotten run over once riding a bike, and nothing compared to Shingles!
Posted by: Boswell at May 18, 2020 05:38 PM (32YRo)

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Mine never made to "pain"...... but went to 67 on a scale of 1 - 10 on itchiness.

Holy hell that about literally drove me insane. Poison Ivy on my upper body was a cake walk comared to that itching.

Pure. Torture.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 05:41 PM (nw6Hr)

427 How dare any of you question the vaccine authorities.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 18, 2020 05:41 PM (EgshT)

428 417 Meanwhile, in the deep Blue State of Oregon, a county judge struck down the governor's lockdown regulations as unconstitutional. Oregon's constitution allows the the governor 28 days to act like a dictator during emergencies, but after the 28 day limit, the legislature must approve emergency regulations. Times up.

Screeching Bitch worst hurt.

Posted by: JEM at May 18, 2020 05:41 PM (8erNz)

429 My mom had shingles but she got to a doctor within a couple of days of the first symptoms and wasn't too bad for duration and recovery. I don't how they treated it.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 18, 2020 05:41 PM (TQ/zJ)

430 LOL. You don't know my mother. Me being sick was just an annoyance. Between chain-smoking, obsessing night and day about my father's philandering, going to her therapist several times a week, and having anorexia, worrying about some cranky baby was the least of her concerns. She didn't even tell me what happened until I was 18 years old, accidentally as part of some other thing she was saying.
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2020 05:26 PM (N9G0H)

*****

Heh. My mother was a combination of Lucille Bluth from "Arrested Development" and Malorie Archer from "Archer".

It made for some ... questionable childhood situations.

So I have an idea of where you are coming from.

Posted by: El Jefe at May 18, 2020 05:42 PM (Ae67h)

431 "I don't how they treated it."

Acyclovir or Zorivax, typically.

Posted by: navybrat at May 18, 2020 05:43 PM (w7KSn)

432 How many vaccines? One for every strain? How many strains has this thing mutated into? The Chinese themselves reported at least 2 strains back in Jan.

Posted by: steve at May 18, 2020 05:43 PM (TTy55)

433 We didn't politicize epidemics back then. Same can't be said necessarily for today.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:33 PM (Eicbe)


see # 364
Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 05:36 PM (NyTrm)
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That's interesting.

But, I think that that's actually deep doubts about the vaccine reflected in politics, than what I would consider the politicization of an epidemic.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:43 PM (Eicbe)

434 398 That's a lovely robe you're wearing today, St. Peter.
Posted by: Eddie Haskell at May 18, 2020 05:35 PM (Eicbe)

Ha! He was the best thing on "Leave It to Beaver."

I always thought Bill Clinton must have been a complete Eddie Haskell as a teenager.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at May 18, 2020 05:43 PM (HabA/)

435 420 When I was a member of MENSA, it seemed that their #1 issue was overpopulation. And how the truly brilliant could handle solving this "problem".

I was briefly a member of mensa, because one of my professors was pushing it, on me and a hot chick who was in the same class, and he had parties, and I think I did her in half the rooms of his house.

Good times, good times.

Posted by: JEM at May 18, 2020 05:44 PM (8erNz)

436 How many strains has this thing mutated into?

Thousands!!! Dr. Fauci says so.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 18, 2020 05:44 PM (EgshT)

437 Jewells, email is screwing with my reply

Definitely the history, OK

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2020 05:46 PM (R6g1s)

438 Bill Gates' patent WO2020060606 (that's wo, the year and three 6's) is for a microchip implant to allow people to mine cryptocurrency by performing certain tasks.This implant will be in a the vaccine, and you will take it, if you want to buy or sell or own anything.

Posted by: steve at May 18, 2020 05:50 PM (TTy55)

439 When I was a member of MENSA, it seemed that their #1 issue was overpopulation. And how the truly brilliant could handle solving this "problem".

I was briefly a member of mensa, because one of my professors was pushing it, on me and a hot chick who was in the same class, and he had parties, and I think I did her in half the rooms of his house.

Good times, good times.
Posted by: JEM at May 18, 2020 05:44 PM (8erNz)
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Well, I was a blue-collar kid, with a large Catholic family and very little money to spread around at any time and only remained a member through the free trial period.

But MENSA really has a way of making you not want to continue if you're a non-elitist.

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2020 05:52 PM (Eicbe)

440 Bill gave moderna 20 mil in 2016. They're onboard

Posted by: steve at May 18, 2020 05:53 PM (TTy55)

441 438 Bill Gates' patent WO2020060606 (that's wo, the year and three 6's) is for a microchip implant to allow people to mine cryptocurrency by performing certain tasks.This implant will be in a the vaccine, and you will take it, if you want to buy or sell or own anything.

666. Stands to reason. Wouldn't accept that vaccine under any circumstance.

Posted by: Cascadia at May 18, 2020 05:53 PM (qxTm8)

442 412 The people I have known who had shingles have had various severities. From meh to kill me now. Some have had recurrences, one even with having the vaccine. My take is shingles analysis is not cut and dried.
Posted by: tubal at May 18, 2020 05:37 PM (bCLt0)

I had shingles a few years ago. I was concerned because it was close to my eye, but it wasn't painful at all. Just slightly itchy. I knew a few people who had agonizing experiences with it.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at May 18, 2020 05:54 PM (HabA/)

443 My friend's aunt was in MENSA.

She also completely believed in astrology (not only had her complete chart drawn up and posted in her kitchen, but would call her astrologer to see if she should do certain things at certain times. "I can't take a trip because Mercury in retrograde" crap like that.)

She made me think that being in MENSA was not worth a bucket of warm spit.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at May 18, 2020 05:57 PM (HabA/)

444 A placebo vaccine widely administered today would look like it worked great, that's how flattened the curve is right now. Of course, they need a proper president in office to give all the credit to, so whether it works or not, it won't be released until trump is out.

Posted by: createss at May 18, 2020 05:58 PM (hCqcJ)

445 CA is one and that's not fair.. we have over 40 million people
Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 05:36 PM (Zmnko)
........

If you include the sheep.

Posted by: wth at May 18, 2020 06:04 PM (v0R5T)

446 438 Bill Gates' patent WO2020060606 (that's wo, the year and three 6's) is for a microchip implant to allow people to mine cryptocurrency by performing certain tasks.

It's not a patent; it's a patent application. Strictly speaking, it's a placeholder for future patent applications in the countries specified on the cover sheet.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2020 06:07 PM (YqDXo)

447 Not what you wanted to hear was it Karen?
Fuck you, very much.

Posted by: An Observation at May 18, 2020 06:15 PM (RxKAk)

448 Why are we still hiding?
Time to go on offense! $60 UV-C Solution to #KillCovid19 #OpenAmerica #PurpleZone
https://youtu.be/DIVTxhDEV4I

Posted by: SenatorMark4 at May 18, 2020 06:21 PM (BVulv)

449 Wonderful. Congress should demonstrate their confidence in the vaccine by being publicly vaccinated first.

Posted by: Jay Dee at May 18, 2020 06:24 PM (2i8hH)

450 " The volunteers, who were healthy, produced antibodies that were determined to be effective in preventing the virus from replicating."

Um...isn't that just basically the response of a healthy immune system?

Posted by: Tikvah at May 19, 2020 04:05 AM (TRU9L)

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