Governor Nipsy Cuomo Explains Why He Sentenced Over 5000 Elderly Citizens to Certain Death: "Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen."

He just won't take responsibility for having sent covid-infected people back to nursing homes to infect everyone else. He begins sputtering out an Eric "Otter" Stratton series of rhetorical questions about who's really to blame.

Q. What do you say to families inside of nursing homes and they are looking for accountability? They would like to see justice. For example, I just interviewed a family of three siblings. They've had two nursing home losses within a few weeks of one another on two separate floors of the same facility here in Albany. They felt so much solace when you got up and talked about Matilda's Law. They said, "great, we're protected," our loved ones are going to be okay because of Matilda’s Law. And then their loved ones passed away because they couldn’t get the testing. So they are looking for accountability and they feel that they were failed. What's the comment to that?
CUOMO: Yeah. The comment is this, and I have those conversations all day long, with people who've lost people, right? We lost 139 people yesterday in hospitals. Who is accountable for those 139 deaths? How do we get justice for those families who had 139 deaths? What is justice? Who can we prosecute for those deaths? Nobody. Nobody. Mother Nature? God? Where did this virus come from?

What do we mean by the word "mean"? What is the word "is"?

People are going to die by this virus. That is the truth. Best hospital system on the globe, I believe we have. Best doctors, best nurses, who have responded like heroes. Every medication, ventilators, the health system wants for nothing. We worked it out so we always had available beds. No one was deprived of a medical bed or coverage in any way. And still people died. Still people died. Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen. Despite whatever you do.

Not "despite" -- because of, Killer.

Because with all of our progress as a society, we can't keep everyone alive.

You could keep the sick isolated from the healthy.

But nah, that's some kind of witch doctor crank theory.

Despite everything you do. And older people are more vulnerable. And that is a fact and that is not going to change... Why do people die? Who is accountable?...

Apparently not you.

Q. [Inaudible] feel that if the mandates were currently in place right now, that we've all been talking about in here, were in place from the get-go, they feel that their loved ones might still be here.
CUOMO: I don’t…look people rationalize death in different ways. I don't think there is any logical rationale to say they would be alive today….

If you didn't sign a decree to make sure they got infected, they'd be alive. Period. That's pretty simple -- and logical.

You murdered them.

Well, we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the United States of America for condemning these elderly people to death. Gentlemen!

David Marcus has a good piece for the leftwing members of the Professional Managerial Class (including, obviously, hyperpartisan "NeverTrump" Democrats) who never look at policy our outcomes, only "tone" and "norms:" that's how you get a ton of dead bodies while babbling about how well he presents himself at press conferences.

This reveals something interesting about the roles of tone and norms in politics and governance. Critics of Trump’s hyperbolic rhetorical style and willingness to say things that offend them seem to think that good tone and maintenance of norms by a politician indicates he is pursuing positive policies and in control of the situation, but this is often not the case. In fact, a polished tone more often elides failures than it symbolizes success.
Here's an example. Would Barack Obama have ever called the press "the enemy of the American people"? Certainly not. But would his administration spy on journalists? Absolutely, and it did. Would Obama cackle about political opponents going to jail? Not a chance. Would his administration try to send political opponents to jail? Yup.
To put it bluntly, Cuomo has not been an effective governor during this crisis, but he has played one on TV. At least in terms of early public opinion, that was enough.

Translation: “Not my fault even though I approved the order that recovering corona virus patients could go back into nursing and assisted living homes. And then it spread like wildfire to the most vulnerable people that we are supposed to be protecting...” https://t.co/YR79xavVr7
— Janice Dean (@JaniceDean) May 17, 2020

No words. https://t.co/9IonIc4jXn
— Janice Dean (@JaniceDean) May 17, 2020

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1 REDRUM

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 12:28 PM (zr5Kq)

2 And yet if he runs again, he will win.

Posted by: Ann at May 18, 2020 12:28 PM (NDO5Q)

3 Great guy.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 18, 2020 12:28 PM (0NDZM)

4 Not first

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at May 18, 2020 12:28 PM (Ylvpt)

5 Cuomo does look like he threw Momma from the train . . .

Posted by: Catherine at May 18, 2020 12:29 PM (+MFxJ)

6 Just heard NYC accounts for 10% of covid deaths world wide.....Get out!.....No! Don't!

Posted by: BignJames at May 18, 2020 12:30 PM (X/Pw5)

7 Nipsy loves aborted babies and dead old people.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:30 PM (ptqGC)

8 He's just bending the medical cost curve downward.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 18, 2020 12:30 PM (0QYMt)

9 If your gonna give illegals free health care you got to start finding new monies.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 12:30 PM (x3dTz)

10 And Barack O: "some people have lived long enough. sometimes you just give grandma 2 aspirin"
And Ezekiel Emmanuel (Emengele): after 70, people have lived long enough"
Democrats are killers.

Posted by: jb at May 18, 2020 12:30 PM (T2wkl)

11 He didn't even give them a pill and make them comfortable. [h/t DogEater]

Fredo the Elder -- a one-man Death Panel.

Posted by: ShainS at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (fP7L7)

12 The rest of the US should call it the NYC virus.

Posted by: Greg61 at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (nAW7N)

13 Barr says he does not expect criminal investigation of Obama or Biden as result of Durham probe

Posted by: SMOD at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (H5xwp)

14 Top 10?

Posted by: manny at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (a9hzr)

15 When, exactly, did the Left go from Believers in Science! to be the party that

actively refutes any scientific information that they don't like?

Posted by: Roman Maroni at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (vCA4F)

16 Very little sympathy for NY. Vastly different from the last time, the country bailed NY out.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (sX1BW)

17 At some point, you've lived long enough. Except when it's the Fredo brothers' mom.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (ptqGC)

18
Cuomo, Murderer

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (pNxlR)

19 He is just covering his a$$, nothing more. But he is going to get sued no matter what he says because he signed the order to return positive patients to nursing homes.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (JUOKG)

20 What if Chris is actually the smart one?

Posted by: El Kabong at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (datdl)

21 Holy crap. Democrat Smart People are openly expressing the things the Horde was saying two months ago, and somehow still insisting that 50% unemployment is the solution.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (L+kF6)

22 Yeah, sure, this is who's going to save the Democrats from Biden.

Who else they got?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

23 Yeah, when he runs for reelection all the old Yankees who didn't croak via the Coronacrud will vote for his sorry ass.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 18, 2020 12:32 PM (o2MD2)

24 New York State is deep in the red on their budget. How much do you think those old people were costing them? I'm not saying there was financial incentive to off these people...wait, yes I am. This is exactly how the left thinks. Old people are a burden to the health system.

Posted by: squid_hunt at May 18, 2020 12:32 PM (Ectld)

25 This is abhorrent and unprecedented.

All over it, boss.

LOLGF

Posted by: Barr at May 18, 2020 12:32 PM (4b5HK)

26 So. . . guess we're done with EVERY LIFE IS PRECIOUS SO MUST STAY INSIDE!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 12:32 PM (bDqIh)

27 Shorter Cuomo:

Individual lives do not matter. Only the State matters.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 18, 2020 12:32 PM (EZebt)

28 https://bit.ly/2LFzNVO
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Ep. 1251 Obama Did It - The Dan Bongino Show® - YouTube

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 12:32 PM (5XwFj)

29 Nipsy also has the distinction of having murdered the mortgage markets and the banking system while HUD Director for Clinton. He's a true example of a public servant.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (NVYyb)

30 I predict real estate values in NYC will see a sharp fall. I have a model that says so.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (x3dTz)

31 Barr says he does not expect criminal investigation of Obama or Biden as result of Durham probe
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I don't either. Let Trump push that battle. If Trump is out there demanding Obama be held accountable, it makes Durham going after a former cabinet member look more reasonable.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (sX1BW)

32 FYI: in NYC last night, on Houston Street, I just saw a professionally produced poster"
NEW YORK
[Cuomo's face in silhouette, black and white]
TOUGH
--with red hearts on either side. Creepy. "We love Big Brother."

Posted by: Beverly at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (SBMUk)

33 You could keep the sick isolated from the healthy.

But nah, that's some kind of witch doctor crank theory.

You're not a doctor, you don't know. I'm sure you've been keeping up with the medical literature, haven't you? (\sarc) I'll bet you're up on the latest developments in miasmas, bad humors, and evil spirits. No? Then sit down and listen to the elites.

Posted by: pep at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (T6t7i)

34 Now that he's helped to destroy the economy, he falls back to exactly what I and many others were saying 2 months ago. Which is why they were destroying the US economy for no reason at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (q3gwH)

35 Out of Duke and on way home to Oak Island! Wore slap out. Holding breath until I got in wheel chair.

Posted by: Agitator at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (feXaS)

36
Governor says vulnerable people are going to die from this virus no matter what you do.

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THEN WHY IN THE FUCK ARE THE REST OF US STILL LOCKED DOWN GOVERNOR ????

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (nw6Hr)

37 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

38 Elderly Die of Being Old and Vulnerable and Being Crammed Into a Tiny Space With Lots of COVID-19, But Mostly Being Crammed Into a Tiny Space With Lots of COVID-19

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (uEbPt)

39 It would be interesting to know how many people tune in to watch him from Florida and the Carolinas.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (L+kF6)

40 You could keep the sick isolated from the healthy.

But nah, that's some kind of witch doctor crank theory.

Microphone dropped.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

41 Family members were forbidden from seeing their loved ones in nursing homes on one hand, while he was mandating that infected patients be accepted into them on the other.

Posted by: ShainS at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (fP7L7)

42 I heard over the weekend that during the height of the NYC pandemic, approximately 85,000 New Yorkers fled to other states. I know a large number came here and did not self-quarantine.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (ptqGC)

43 36
Governor says vulnerable people are going to die from this virus no matter what you do.

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THEN WHY IN THE FUCK ARE THE REST OF US STILL LOCKED DOWN GOVERNOR ????
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (nw6Hr)

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"Well, Trump's great strength was the economy, so..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:34 PM (LvTSG)

44
Who else they got?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

Stace, the Ham Planet

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2020 12:34 PM (pNxlR)

45 he's the Duke. A number one.

Posted by: x at May 18, 2020 12:34 PM (nFwvY)

46 You could keep the sick isolated from the healthy.

But nah, that's some kind of witch doctor crank theory.
..........

Just need more hot irons.

Posted by: wth at May 18, 2020 12:34 PM (v0R5T)

47 Barr says he does not expect criminal investigation of Obama or Biden as result of Durham probe

Posted by: SMOD at May 18, 2020

We always knew that.

Posted by: Mobile Goal Posts at May 18, 2020 12:34 PM (4b5HK)

48 New York State is deep in the red on their budget.
How much do you think those old people were costing them? I'm not saying
there was financial incentive to off these people...wait, yes I am.
This is exactly how the left thinks. Old people are a burden to the
health system.

Posted by: squid_hunt at May 18, 2020 12:32 PM

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The Eskimos knew how to handle that problem.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 18, 2020 12:34 PM (JUOKG)

49 Hey! You fucked up! You trusted us!

Posted by: Nipsy Cuomo, Rush Chairman at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (gmo/4)

50
Obamacare would have established death panels.

Cuomo went and did that all by himself.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (nw6Hr)

51 The poster was on a fence. Also appearing last night, a row of large, professionally photographed Diversity Portraits with each one wearing a Submission Mask. Plastered on the windows at REI Sporting Goods, clearly not the work of amateurs.

The "Kneel Before Zod!" campaign is ramping up.

Posted by: Beverly at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (SBMUk)

52 Holy Cow

Can you imagine the response if Trump said, in effect., "Hey look, old people are gonna die from this--and there's nothing you can do about it."

Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (CqE5x)

53 Serious question: Was Zeke Emanuel consulting with these Democrat governors on Wuhan Flu policy?

I don't want to get all "we must investigate the Wuhan flu response NOW" as Pelosi and Schiff are, but I suspect the DNC/top Democrats were coordinating a coordinated response to use as a contrast to what they were(still are?) planning on labeling "Trump's Incompetent Response, which is IMPEACHABLE."

tl:dr - Was this Zeke's suggestion to Cuomo and others?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (bDqIh)

54 6 Just heard NYC accounts for 10% of covid deaths world wide.....Get out!.....No! Don't!
Posted by: BignJames at May 18, 2020 12:30 PM (X/Pw5)

Part of that is that they believed that they would get a lot more money and political utility out of using every trick they had to pump up the death totals as high as possible. Now the plan has backfired on them, since nobody did it nearly as much as they did, and they now look like the most incompetent and murderous managers in the world.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (q3gwH)

55 And yet if he runs again, he will win.
Posted by: Ann at May 18, 2020 12:28 PM (NDO5Q)

Maybe, but this arrogant meathead has higher aspirations which are being flushed down the shitter.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (y7DUB)

56 22 Yeah, sure, this is who's going to save the Democrats from Biden.

Who else they got?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

No one, really. The primaries they held showed how uninspiring all of those people were. Anyone remotely connected to the Obama Administration is going to be dirtied up by ObamaGate. Democrat governors have performed poorly in this crisis and will not be viable national candidates.

Right now they have no one.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (0QYMt)

57 Let's grapple with this a bit, shall we?

Posted by: Dark Helmet at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (Oka5v)

58 Cuomo is mad because he knows his chances of running for President are sunk.

Cuomo only gives a damn about himself and since these deaths will prevent him from going any further than governor, it upsets him.

Anyone who thinks Cuomo actually cares about the elderly dying, well, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

Cheap.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (WEBkv)

59 At the very least Cuhomo should have 5300 counts of depraved indifference and serve his terms consecutively or at the end of a rope. His choice.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (pw+jk)

60 Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (sX1BW)
********
PSSSSSSST AG could be lying

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (5XwFj)

61 DEGOVID 19
h/t Insomniac

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (k/TB6)

62

If you didn't sign a decree to make sure they got infected, they'd be alive. Period. That's pretty simple -- and logical.

You murdered them.

But he has that spectacular Top Gun-esque Governor of NY jacket and razor sharp pant creases.

I mean what do you people want ? Living healthy grandmas or stabile and enduring political norms?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (EbdyZ)

63 Most tragic of all is the death of another potential savior candidacy for the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (oVJmc)

64 I heard over the weekend that during the height of the NYC pandemic, approximately 85,000 New Yorkers fled to other states. I know a large number came here and did not self-quarantine.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (ptqGC)

I imagine these were people who had homes in other states.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (CqE5x)

65 Can you imagine the response if Trump said, in effect., "Hey look, old people are gonna die from this--and there's nothing you can do about it."
Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (CqE5x)

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Oh you silly Reich Wingers and your "what abouts".

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:37 PM (nw6Hr)

66 56 22 Yeah, sure, this is who's going to save the Democrats from Biden.

Who else they got?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

No one, really. The primaries they held showed how uninspiring all of those people were. Anyone remotely connected to the Obama Administration is going to be dirtied up by ObamaGate. Democrat governors have performed poorly in this crisis and will not be viable national candidates.

Right now they have no one.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (0QYMt)

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Yeah, the idea that Democrats are going to blow up the primary process and probably their entire party to replace Biden with someone who's probably just as bad if not worse than him is fantasy.

They're stuck with him, which is why Tara Reade is disappearing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:37 PM (LvTSG)

67 Cuomo and Wolf and Murphy are mass murderers who should face the death penalty

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 18, 2020 12:37 PM (G546f)

68 Now that he's helped to destroy the economy, he falls back to exactly what I and many others were saying 2 months ago.

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And called everything but a child of God during the conversations.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 12:37 PM (L+kF6)

69 The left still thinks "The West Wing" was a reality show for the future

Nothing but magical thinking in that show

The Right Words will win every argument
The Right Policies will always prevail
The Wrong People always have ill motives and dirty secrets
The Good People only lose because The Wrong People cheat and lie

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 18, 2020 12:37 PM (aO8Gd)

70 PSSSSSSST AG could be lying

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (5XwFj)

Ladies and gentlemen.

It's come to this!

Posted by: Kabuki Theatre at May 18, 2020 12:37 PM (4b5HK)

71 Just heard NYC accounts for 10% of covid deaths world wide.....Get out!.....No! Don't!
Posted by: BignJames at May 18, 2020 12:30 PM (X/Pw5)

Part of that is that they believed that they would get a lot more money and political utility out of using every trick they had to pump up the death totals as high as possible. Now the plan has backfired on them, since nobody did it nearly as much as they did, and they now look like the most incompetent and murderous managers in the world.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (q3gwH)

I thunk Cuomo started to believe the hype and got sloppy.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (CqE5x)

72 If there is anything that WOULD give me pause, regarding my belief that Joe Biden won't be standing for election in November, it's the fact that their B team candidates, like Cummo, are imploding before us in ways that are more disastrous than Biden's dementia and rape accusations.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (hku12)

73 Cupmo has their blood on his hands.

One of the left's favorite phrases lately.

Of course when applied to one of their own, they regard that as praise rather than condemnation. After all, the left's enemies need killing.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (cqteU)

74 It's probably already been said but all Cuomo has done is lock up another 5400 votes.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (axyOa)

75 He blamed "mother nature" because the virus killed people, not him. Kinda like someone blaming geology for people dying from gunshots because technically lead is a mineral.

Now the plan has backfired on them, since nobody did it nearly as much as they did, and they now look like the most incompetent and murderous managers in the world.

Not to the left, they think Cuomo is the God King of Coronavirus, who did everything perfectly and Trump should take lessons from him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (KZzsI)

76
Democrat governors have performed poorly in this crisis

How dare you ignore the performance of Guvn'r Stace, Georgia's Salvation!

HOW DARE YOU!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (pNxlR)

77 Cuomo delenda est

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (XLJ/O)

78 "BUT HAVE YOU HEARD HIM SPEAK? Have you ever seen somebody so clean and articulate since Obama? So dreamy! * swoon *" -- FOX News "conservatives"

Posted by: ShainS at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (fP7L7)

79 The problem with the Fauci Circle Jerk is you end up with Fauci all over you.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (x3dTz)

80 I'm with Cuomo on this one...

Older, fragile people with other existing conditions will die of this virus. They will die before they would have died from their other conditions, but not by too long.

Then again, they will die relatively quickly instead of dying by inches, being treated to every indignity that medical science can devise.

Viruses are nature's way of helping those who are near death to achieve the goal. For the rest of society, viruses help to build immunity so that the next one doesn't wipe out millions of relatively healthy people.

Posted by: jwest at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (mrrpT)

81 Hey, didn't Cuomo also have a policy in place to automatically implement DNR's on senior so they did use up space and resources in his hospitals?

Think this policy was leaked, so he pulled back by saying it was under consideration but not yet implemented?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (bDqIh)

82 Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (sX1BW)

********

PSSSSSSST AG could be lying

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Could be. One problem with prosecuting an ex-President for legal crimes is that the President has a big defense against a lot of crimes - he is the President and Chief Executive.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (sX1BW)

83 I heard over the weekend that during the height of
the NYC pandemic, approximately 85,000 New Yorkers fled to other states.
I know a large number came here and did not self-quarantine.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (ptqGC)

===
You misspelled "spread the pandemic out of NYC to other states."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (pw+jk)

84 New York State is deep in the red on their budget. How much do you think those old people were costing them? I'm not saying there was financial incentive to off these people...wait, yes I am. This is exactly how the left thinks. Old people are a burden to the health system.
Posted by: squid_hunt

The financial incentive was when Fedgov said they'd reimburse for covid deaths.

Cha-ching!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (dfEoR)

85 Hard to believe there are governors out there less competent than the governor of my state, CA.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (WEBkv)

86 64
I heard over the weekend that during the height of the NYC pandemic,
approximately 85,000 New Yorkers fled to other states. I know a large
number came here and did not self-quarantine.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (ptqGC)

I imagine these were people who had homes in other states.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (CqE5x)

That's why FL put a hold on people coming in from NY. All the "beautiful people" bailed out of NYC proper and headed for their summer homes. I dare to bet that the population of Martha's Vineyard tripled.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (N39Ws)

87 I like how the sign language guy in the little window does his "I wash my hands clean of this matter" motion while Nipsy explains the whole "not my fault" part.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (l6b3d)

88 The left still thinks "The West Wing" was a reality show for the future

Nothing but magical thinking in that show

The Right Words will win every argument
The Right Policies will always prevail
The Wrong People always have ill motives and dirty secrets
The Good People only lose because The Wrong People cheat and lie
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 18, 2020 12:37 PM (aO8Gd)

Except in reality, the Left NEVER considers that they can ever be "The Wrong People" who cheat and lie.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (CqE5x)

89 Ring around the Cuomo, pocket full of Medicare vouchers, ashes, ashes, we all fall down!
NYS Nursing Home Elderly.

Posted by: Archer at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (gmo/4)

90 Where's Mack Bolan when you need him?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (axyOa)

91 Barr says he does not expect criminal investigation of Obama or Biden as result of Durham probe
Posted by: SMOD at May 18, 2020

Heaven forfend we say you don't know and "it depends where the investigation leads" . Nah bro, best to draw those conclusions publicly now so no one thinks it's too serious.

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2020 12:40 PM (uEbPt)

92 88 Except in reality, the Left NEVER considers that they can ever be "The Wrong People" who cheat and lie.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (CqE5x)

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Even when they knowingly cheat and lie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)

93
That's why FL put a hold on people coming in from NY. All the "beautiful people" bailed out of NYC proper and headed for their summer homes. I dare to bet that the population of Martha's Vineyard tripled.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (N39Ws)

They also went to Upstate NY, Long Island and New Jersey

Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:40 PM (CqE5x)

94 Cuomo should run for President on the promise that he can get Obamacare to operate in the black.

Posted by: cpurick at May 18, 2020 12:40 PM (7YrFp)

95 Cuomo's "non-essentials" include more than just a reference to jobs.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 18, 2020 12:40 PM (O+I8R)

96 Just heard NYC accounts for 10% of covid deaths world wide

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I'd be shocked if the US had more than 10K legitimate Covid-19 deaths, and I bet 80% of those would be elderly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 12:40 PM (L+kF6)

97 With 5000 deaths is two months there must be hundreds of CNAs and LPNs with harrowing, moving and life-affirming stories that would earn a Pulitzer for any intrepid NY reporter with the moxie to hunt them down.

I'm holding my breath starting....now

Posted by: 29Victor at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (BJKQV)

98 Janice Dean's husband (FDNY) lost both his mother and father to Chinese Lung Rot in their assisted living facility.

Horrific.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (sGotD)

99 They were born to die and besides they're not my parents and shut up already.

Posted by: azalea city at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (WX+x0)

100 Eric Stratton?

Oblig.:

https://youtu.be/ROxvT8KKdFw

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (ZBd2j)

101 >>Viruses are nature's way of helping those who are near death to achieve the goal. For the rest of society, viruses help to build immunity so that the next one doesn't wipe out millions of relatively healthy people.

Would you send a person with the Wuhan flu into a NICU because, hey, survival of the fittest?

This is not about how it sucks that older people are more vulnerable, it's about knowingly sending an infected person who was in the hospital being treated with other infected people *back into* a nursing home, knowing that they will likely infect the people around them.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (bDqIh)

102 Cuomo is no Corleone.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (x3dTz)

103 Get on the cart, Grandma.

Posted by: navybrat at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (w7KSn)

104 Rip out his nipple piercings and drive them through his eye sockets.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (NWiLs)

105 New York State is deep in the red on their budget. How much do you think those old people were costing them?

Yep, that's a big part of the decision, clearly. And old ladies don't vote very reliably Democrat

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

106
*Shrugs Shoulders*
Eh... People are gonna die. Whatcha gonna do?

Here, hava cannoli.

Posted by: Godfather Cuomo at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (r+sAi)

107 Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (sX1BW)
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Treason ? I don't think so

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (5XwFj)

108 Let me add some context.

Admission to nursing home is a civil rights, health care equiy issue for leftists.

The impetus was to prohibit nursing homes from discriminating against infected people when considered for admission. Because infected people are disabled and therefore a minority in need of oaternalistic oversight, in their diseased minds.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (EZebt)

109 Hard to believe there are governors out there less competent than the governor of my state, CA.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 12:39 PM (WEBkv)
.........

And they can't even get their Men's Hair products right.

Posted by: wth at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (v0R5T)

110 >>Just heard NYC accounts for 10% of covid deaths world wide

Because we trust other countries' numbers, such as China's and Iran's????

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (bDqIh)

111 Rip out his nipple piercings and drive them through his eye sockets.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (NWiLs)
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Heat the nipple piercing before or after ripping them out?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (WEBkv)

112 I'm in an Old Testament kind of mood.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

113 Even when they knowingly cheat and lie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)

They still think THEY are more enlightened, more compassionate and more intelligent.
They BELIEVE this shit.

That's why it's never "cheating and lying" when THEY do it.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (CqE5x)

114 heard over the weekend that during the height of
the NYC pandemic, approximately 85,000 New Yorkers fled to other states.

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And complained about you not wearing a mask made from t-shirt material.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (L+kF6)

115 Sounds like he is going for the Shaggy defense.
"Wasn't me"

Posted by: Juddgement at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (ekNa8)

116
Rich Zeoli calls him "Cuomo Two-Times".

Because he repeats, enumerates, emphasizes, reiterates everything, all that he cited, listed, spelled out, constantly, repetitively, without fail.

Once it has been pointed out to you, you can no longer NOT hear it. It is hilarious.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (pNxlR)

117 105 New York State is deep in the red on their budget. How much do you think those old people were costing them?

Yep, that's a big part of the decision, clearly. And old ladies don't vote very reliably Democrat
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

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I can't imagine they're saving much with all the lost economic activity factored in.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (LvTSG)

118 Karma is just another word for righteous justice, Governor. It's in the bible Fredo.

Posted by: azalea city at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (WX+x0)

119 60 Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (sX1BW)
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PSSSSSSST AG could be lying
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 12:36 PM (5XwFj)

naah, Obama is a meaningless, powerful figurehead, Hillary will be dead soon enough (alcoholism does that) and BIden's brain is dead already. No need to worry about any of them, they'll be gone soon enough.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (q3gwH)

120 And old ladies don't vote very reliably Democrat

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They will going forward.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (nw6Hr)

121 Shorter Cuomo:

"You mad bro?"

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (Cbv9I)

122 I'm in an Old Testament kind of mood.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

Who are you going to smite?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (CqE5x)

123 104 Rip out his nipple piercings and drive them through his eye sockets.
Posted by: Insomniac

disturbingly detailed vision there, Insom

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (d7Ww2)

124 I think this would be a bigger story if this had happened in Florida or Georgia.

Posted by: just guessing here at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (m/Gc2)

125 Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (0QYMt)

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Yeah, the idea that Democrats are going to blow up the primary process and probably their entire party to replace Biden with someone who's probably just as bad if not worse than him is fantasy.

They're stuck with him, which is why Tara Reade is disappearing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:37 PM (LvTSG)

There are plenty of other options out there, it's just none of them are politicians.

Like Michelle. And Oprah. And Bill Gates.

Honestly, I don't know why they wouldn't. My guess is, Michelle couldn't win, because she's a miserable human being. But Oprah could. And maybe so could Gates.

That would be a horrible disaster for the world, but who knows. Or should I say WHO knows.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (hku12)

126 Now that he's helped to destroy the economy, he falls back to exactly what I and many others were saying 2 months ago.

==
We all did except a few like remote control sodomy.
But the thing is, Cuhomo could have protected those elder citizens and had the money to do it but it would not have been a torpedo aimed at Trump... that circled back and got Cuhomo.. and 5300 grandmothers and grandfathers.
The man should be given a 5300 count fair trial and then hanged.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (pw+jk)

127 I stole this meme from Dan Smoot (I think) today-

https://twitter.com/votermom/status/
1262359316021067776

I hate to tweet it, but the numbers tell the truth:

Andrew Cuomo has now killed more New Yorkers than Osama bin Laden.
#CuomoKilledGrandma

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (G546f)

128 Cuomo...what a disgusting bag of shit!

Posted by: Tentotwo at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (yhf6w)

129 Rich Zeoli calls him "Cuomo Two-Times".

Because he repeats, enumerates, emphasizes, reiterates everything, all that he cited, listed, spelled out, constantly, repetitively, without fail.

Once it has been pointed out to you, you can no longer NOT hear it. It is hilarious.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (pNxlR)

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To be fair.... Trump does this all the time too.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (nw6Hr)

130 "Mother Nature? God? Where did this virus come from?"

false choices, and that is the China talking point. No, it came from China, probably their lab. AND when they knew it could lead to a pandemic, they blocked flights out of Wuhan to the rest of China, BUT allowed flights to the rest of the world, while lying about the potent virus.

China is where the virus came from, deliberately and maliciously spread to the world, covered up with China preferred propaganda, which WHO and Cuomo spread and are spreading.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (Cus5s)

131 Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen.

They need to shut up and take an aspirin.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (EgshT)

132 111 Rip out his nipple piercings and drive them through his eye sockets.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (NWiLs)
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Heat the nipple piercing before or after ripping them out?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (WEBkv)

Neither. The nipple wounds will, however, be cauterized.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (NWiLs)

133 They will going forward.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (nw6Hr)
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Ah, it's all part of a plan to inflate Democrat voter rolls: First, kill off the R voters. Then, add them to D voter rolls.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (WEBkv)

134 Re the posters appearing "spontaneously" in NYC [ahem], the proggies always try to make these things look like an Uprising of the People, grassroots. Never is, though.
My work team, all millennials or younger, were declaring this morning in a zoom meeting that they're NEVER going to take off their masks again. One is a 20-something guy staying with his mommy and daddy in Florida and WFH. He said "Florida's pretty much back to normal: restaurants and bars are open, and I went to the gym." One young woman asked him, "Are they wearing the masks in the gym?" He said, "I won't lie to you -- NO one was wearing a mask."
They were all horrified, and said, "They don't even care if everybody dies!" etc.

Just for fun, I threw out that Cuomo [spit] has decided that the New York beaches are Allowed to open for Memorial Day. But Mayor Warren Wilhelm, CPUSA, snarled, "NOT the NYC beaches!" I thought for sure they'd resent this -- but No.
"Well, NYC beaches suck anyway!" "I'm never going to those, they're so filthy," etc., etc.

The transformation into Pod People (see Invasion of the Body Snatchers, if you haven't) is nearly complete, and I gotta get outta here.

Posted by: Beverly at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (SBMUk)

135 "Hey, everyone's gotta die sometime."

-- The Wit and Wisdom of Gov. Andrew Cuomo

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (sbyCq)

136 The Cuomo Family: It's Fredo's all the way down

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (oVJmc)

137 I'm in an Old Testament kind of mood.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

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Arent you a little too old to go around begatting every body???

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (nw6Hr)

138 But the Holy Whistleblower says Trump fired him and then Trump burned the only copy of "Step-by-Step Guide to Zero Deaths from COVID-19" in front of him while laughing, and then said, "You puny fool have failed! I will do nothing because I want millions to die so I can blame Obama "

And the media has saved the Holy Whistleblower and brought him forth to us and all the Good and Right People must impeach the Evil Man Orange.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (aO8Gd)

139 122 I'm in an Old Testament kind of mood.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

Who are you going to smite?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (CqE5x)

I've got a list.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (NWiLs)

140 >>Where did this virus come from?
It came from outer space.
Any other dumb questions, guv?

Posted by: Zod at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (ZS9TG)

141 Trump sent a hospital ship right to NYC and it went mostly empty - why didn't Cuomo put the infected stable seniors there?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (G546f)

142 I prefer to think of them not as nipple piercings, but as battery terminals.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (oVJmc)

143 But the Democrats told me that Republicans health care plan was for you to "Die Quickly."

Why are Democrat governors purposely killing the elderly?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)

144 Just heard NYC accounts for 10% of covid deaths world wide
........

Second look at nukes from orbit?

Posted by: wth at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (v0R5T)

145
Republicans 2016: Lock Her Up

Democrats 2020: Lock Everyone Up

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (uEbPt)

146 26
So. . . guess we're done with EVERY LIFE IS PRECIOUS SO MUST STAY INSIDE!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 12:32 PM (bDqIh)

_________

"We have to commit genocide even if it saves one life." -- The Left in a nutshell

Posted by: ShainS at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (fP7L7)

147
Would you send a person with the Wuhan flu into a NICU because, hey, survival of the fittest?

This is not about how it sucks that older people are more
vulnerable, it's about knowingly sending an infected person who was in
the hospital being treated with other infected people *back into* a
nursing home, knowing that they will likely infect the people around
them.

And then playing off all the details like ace said , using the Otter defense.

There is a trail of steps Cuom-hole took before he executed those nursing home residents. This was not accidental.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (EbdyZ)

148 125 There are plenty of other options out there, it's just none of them are politicians.

Like Michelle. And Oprah. And Bill Gates.

Honestly, I don't know why they wouldn't. My guess is, Michelle couldn't win, because she's a miserable human being. But Oprah could. And maybe so could Gates.

That would be a horrible disaster for the world, but who knows. Or should I say WHO knows.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (hku12)

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If you're asking the unaffiliated voter to think outside the box on a candidate, why would they abandon the outside the box president? If he's working, why abandon him? If he's not working, why replace him with someone like him?

Michelle is a paper tiger.

Oprah values the love people have for her too much.

Gates has the charisma of a wet towel.

No, they're screwed. They were so intent on taking out Bernie that they didn't really think ahead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (LvTSG)

149 New York State is deep in the red on their budget. How much do you think those old people were costing them?

Yep, that's a big part of the decision, clearly. And old ladies don't vote very reliably Democrat
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

I don't think they were that depraved to actually think it through like that.
I don't believe Cuomo intentionally killed anyone.
I think it's just typical Democrat hubris combined with typical Democrat incompetence.
But the end result is the same.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (CqE5x)

150 disturbingly detailed vision there, Insom
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (d7Ww2)

Hello, nurse!

I have not yet begun to be disturbingly detailed.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (NWiLs)

151 If you're not going to protect the most vulnerable, then why protect anyone?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (sbyCq)

152 Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen.

Likewise, politicians die.
Every single one of them.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (axyOa)

153 I'm in an Old Testament kind of mood.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

No shellfish?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (oVJmc)

154 Janice Dean (@JaniceDean) May 17, 2020

Janice Dean the Weather Machine, cool.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (WMK1m)

155 Would you send a person with the Wuhan flu into a NICU because, hey, survival of the fittest?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (bDqIh)

No, if someone is already known to be infected, I wouldn't move them into a facility with uninfected people.

All I'm saying is that it's relatively pointless to fight nature when the people who are most at risk have other conditions that will take them within a short (extremely expensive) time anyway.

Posted by: jwest at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (mrrpT)

156 How many search warrants has Durham's team executed?

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (4b5HK)

157 137 I'm in an Old Testament kind of mood.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

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Arent you a little too old to go around begatting every body???
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (nw6Hr)

Just how old do you think I am?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (NWiLs)

158
TV News HQ @TVNewsHQ
Replying to @TVNewsHQ
Barr: "The law enforcement and intelligence apparatus of this country were involved in advancing a false and utterly baseless Russian collusion narrative against the President"
*********
Bret Baier @BretBaier
2m
The focus of headlines will likely be that AG Barr said he does not expect Durham's investigation will lead to a criminal investigation of President Obama or Vice President Biden-but I bet this part of AG Barr's statement won't get as much coverage.

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (5XwFj)

159 I've got a list.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (NWiLs)

We've finally found a point where I have no desire to be FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (Zz0t1)

160 >>Where did this virus come from?
It came from outer space.
Any other dumb questions, guv?
Posted by: Zod at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (ZS9TG)
.......

My brother says it came from excavations in the Arctic ice.

Posted by: wth at May 18, 2020 12:47 PM (v0R5T)

161 Trump sent a hospital ship right to NYC and it went mostly empty - why didn't Cuomo put the infected stable seniors there?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (G546f)
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#OrangeManBad, of course.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 12:47 PM (WEBkv)

162 Your grandma and grandpa were racists and didn't build that.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at May 18, 2020 12:47 PM (EgshT)

163 153 I'm in an Old Testament kind of mood.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

Aye.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2020 12:47 PM (WMK1m)

164 I've been calling Cuomo a murderer since he condemned all those people to death but he was getting such high marks from the NY media.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 12:47 PM (TOwRr)

165 Glarphul peeto inco ditsee but Noow Queerto dogo bouffer te!

Posted by: Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 12:47 PM (IJG6N)

166 80 ...
Posted by: jwest at May 18, 2020 12:38 PM (mrrpT)

You forgot the /sarc tag, right ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 18, 2020 12:47 PM (cqteU)

167
Just how old do you think I am?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (NWiLs)
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Judging by your cynicism, about the same age as Methuselah.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (WEBkv)

168
Gates has the charisma of a wet towel.

Every Windows user has a reason to vote against Gates.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (oVJmc)

169 I think I'm falling apart here. Just read Baker's plan for opening up the state and the bottom line is, he is not. No retail, no restaurants, no gyms. Opening industrial and parks and beaches. Social distancing everywhere, masks everywhere. He's going to allow hair dressers and dog groomers next week. No date for phase 2. Phase 4 is a vaccine. They are already talking about the school year and making drastic changes.We are doing more testing than any other state. 400,000 tests so the mumbers are going to be high. But, how many are actually sick and need hospitalization. 60% of deaths in nursing homes but lock up the milliions of healthy people.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (QzF6i)

170 Just imagine what life is like in a nursing home with the WuFlu going on. These facilities are all in lock down. The residents are confined to their rooms. No visitors. No recreational activities. Very little social interaction. If the resident isn't capable of operating a remote control for the TV, there is no mental stimulation whatsoever. They surely begin a mental decline. What once was a vibrant person is now a mere shell.

This is my mother's life right now.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (N39Ws)

171 Rip out his nipple piercings and drive them through his eye sockets.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (NWiLs)
--------------

Heat the nipple piercing before or after ripping them out?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 12:42 PM (WEBkv)

Neither. The nipple wounds will, however, be cauterized.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (NWiLs)

Those rings will go in easier if you drill a pilot hole. 6 inches ought to do it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (axyOa)

172 If only Cuhomo has some specific CCP Covid19 hospitals or maybe a medical ship... if only he would not have had to murder 5300+ grand parents.
Damn Orange Man didn't support Cuhomo.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (pw+jk)

173
Arent you a little too old to go around begatting every body???
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (nw6Hr)

You begat!!!! You go to Hell and you begat!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (Zz0t1)

174 Sorry jwest, but you don't get to purposely infect vulnerable populations because you or a governor or the state have determined their worth vs cost to society does not suit you. It's called murder.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (r+sAi)

175 Just how old do you think I am?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:46 PM (NWiLs)
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Judging by your cynicism, about the same age as Methuselah

Low blow.

Posted by: It's me donna at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (Zmnko)

176 Judging by your cynicism, about the same age as Methuselah.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (WEBkv)

*snort*

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:48 PM (NWiLs)

177 Arent you a little too old to go around begatting every body???
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (nw6Hr)
______________________

Hold my beer!

Posted by: Tony Randall at May 18, 2020 12:49 PM (w9Wax)

178 Trump sent a hospital ship right to NYC and it went mostly empty - why didn't Cuomo put the infected stable seniors there?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (G546f)

I think you answered your own question with the first word of your sentence.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 12:49 PM (hku12)

179 So. . . guess we're done with EVERY LIFE IS PRECIOUS SO MUST STAY INSIDE!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 12:32 PM (bDqIh)

_________

"We have to commit genocide even if it saves one life." -- The Left in a nutshell
Posted by: ShainS at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (fP7L7)

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One of my lefty friends posted one of those well meaning "public notices" on Facebook about some kid somewhere got chemical burns from a Walmart shopping cart the kid sat in. Pics accompanied.

My response was "if disinfectant SAVES ONE LIFE it was worth it... right?"

The shitcanning I got from the Karens was ..... epic.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:49 PM (nw6Hr)

180 "What is the word "is"?"

That is a great question, ace!

Posted by: Wm. J. "Bubba" Clinton at May 18, 2020 12:49 PM (DMUuz)

181 Ace, I think you have difficulty understanding what a "murder" is. Makes sense actually. You have difficulty with nuance.

But let's get something straight. You've been championing those who want their freedom to infect themselves and others. You've been belittling the risk of this thing from the start. You and your president have been wishing to put the economy ahead of human lives from the start.

I thought it was really unhealthy to be so full of shit.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:49 PM (Zz0t1)

182 Seattle Slow - the lying continues.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (EbdyZ)

183 Has anyone figured out how I can be responsible for infecting someone who stays home?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (L+kF6)

184
"Hey, everyone's gotta die sometime."

-- The Wit and Wisdom of Gov. Andrew Cuomo
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2020 12:44 PM (sbyCq)

Wasn't it Clinton's Surgeon General, Joycelyn Elders, who famously said, "Everybody's got to die from sumpthin'"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (pNxlR)

185 David Eggert
@DavidEggert00
BREAKING: Whitmer announces reopening of retail businesses in much of northern Michigan starting Friday, including bars & restaurants. They must be at 50% capacity. Affects MERC regions 8 and 6 - the UP and 17 counties in lower northern LP (including Traverse City)

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (5XwFj)

186 Troll uses a lot of words to express stampy-footed outrage.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (oVJmc)

187 Dems are the party of lockdowns, coercion, pro fingerblasting and old rich white people

Posted by: Shooter McLovin at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (HVMmF)

188 I see no reason to even talk about where the current investigation will lead, or whether it will lead to a former prez or VP. Especially at this (presumably) well advanced stage of investigation. Why address the matter at all?

"The investigation is proceeding and will continue to follow the facts, and the law. Nothing more to say at this point".

As with every other investigation, ever.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (El6T/)

189 I thought it was really unhealthy to be so full of shit.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:49 PM (Zz0t1)

Xhe just offloaded some right in the middle of the blog...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (NWiLs)

190 Cuomo's a pimp. He never could've outfought Santino.

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (uEbPt)

191 Gov. Andrew "Smallpox Blanket" Cuomo

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2020 12:51 PM (sbyCq)

192 I don't think they were that depraved to actually think it through like that.

I can't imagine why you would assume that from a governor who told people that opposed the idea of letting live born abortions die to leave the state. What in his history and actions gives you the notion he wouldn't figure this was a smart move and they were old and gonna die anyway?

Sure, part of it was an attempt to keep hospitals from being overloaded -- it was "triage" like Italy was doing, choosing who lives and who dies. But nobody forced him to put them into nursing homes. Nobody made the Pennsylvania health authority pull her folks out of nursing homes before doing the same thing. They knew what would happen and wanted it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 12:51 PM (KZzsI)

193 Troll uses a lot of words to express stampy-footed outrage.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (oVJmc)

Blood libels are so 19th century.

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 12:51 PM (zr5Kq)

194 Tiresome troll is tiresome.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 18, 2020 12:51 PM (O+I8R)

195 32 FYI: in NYC last night, on Houston Street, I just saw a professionally produced poster"
NEW YORK
[Cuomo's face in silhouette, black and white]
TOUGH
--with red hearts on either side. Creepy. "We love Big Brother."
Posted by: Beverly at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (SBMUk)

Yup. I live a few blocks away and saw it on my way to Whole Paycheck.

Feh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 12:51 PM (s2VJv)

196 My brother says it came from excavations in the Arctic ice.

At The Mountains of Madness!

Posted by: H P "banned" Lovecraft at May 18, 2020 12:51 PM (ITuTj)

197 Best practices for thee, but not for me!

Posted by: Governor 'Le Petomane' Cuomo at May 18, 2020 12:51 PM (e1mEI)

198 >>No, if someone is already known to be infected, I wouldn't move them into a facility with uninfected people.

But that's the point: that's what Cuomo's policy was. Sending infected people back into nursing homes where there are vulnerable, already ill/declining health people who were certain to get the Wuhan flu and die.

It's not about what a shame it is that the elderly are having death accelerated (that's expected), it's that it was intentionally accelerated by Cuomo -- all while telling us during daily press briefings that EVERY LIFE IS PRECCIOUS so the WHOLE COUNTRY must shelter in place. And also: TRUMP has blood on his hands!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (bDqIh)

199 Crop circles result from The Gray's social distancing.

True story.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (EbdyZ)

200 some kid somewhere got chemical burns from a Walmart shopping cart the kid sat in. Pics accompanied.

-

There's a photo going around of a cop scolding a person by himself on an empty beach.

"See that Walmart over there? Go there."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (L+kF6)

201 "What is justice? Who can we prosecute for those deaths?"

YOU should be first in the docket, killer.

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (T09ml)

202 Finally the MI gov is doing something correctly. No reason for Central MI and especially the UP to be on lockdown. Now she needs to ease up on SW MI.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (JVgnl)

203 #ReopenAmerica

Posted by: zeera Moron Author at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (zUdXR)

204 Gov Newsom did the exact same thing here in CA.
Including placing covid patients in a nursing home in my own neighborhood.
Coincidence?

https://tinyurl.com/y79hmjf7

Posted by: navybrat at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (w7KSn)

205 People on twitter saying the developmentally challenged were also sacrificed.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (TOwRr)

206 'Sup, yall? I'm on my break from pretending to work from home.

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (MVjcR)

207
Yup. I live a few blocks away and saw it on my way to Whole Paycheck.

Feh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 12:51 PM (s2VJv)

You didn't have a Sharpie available?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (Zz0t1)

208
Meanwhile, Fredo Cuomo says it is a lie that he broke quarantine on Easter Sunday... people tweet proof that he's lying-

https://tinyurl.com/y84n64or

Posted by: redridinghood at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (wiXsO)

209 CUOVID-19 is responsible for just under 1/3 of all US Sinovirus deaths.

US Deaths 84,313
NY Deaths 27,477

Posted by: 29Victor at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (BJKQV)

210 And NYC keeps electing him. People in Upstate hated NYC when I lived there in the early 70s.

Posted by: Vic at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (mpXpK)

211 Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 12:43 PM (hku12)

==========

If you're asking the unaffiliated voter to think outside the box on a candidate, why would they abandon the outside the box president? If he's working, why abandon him? If he's not working, why replace him with someone like him?

Michelle is a paper tiger.

Oprah values the love people have for her too much.

Gates has the charisma of a wet towel.

No, they're screwed. They were so intent on taking out Bernie that they didn't really think ahead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (LvTSG)

We're all just speculating. No doubt they're discussing many options, but I do reject your statement that sticking with Joe is their BEST option.

I don't know that it isn't... but I don't know that it is. And of course, if they DO come up with a better option, there's nothing that would stop them from taking it. I believe they would resort to murder, if they have to.

It might not be any of the three I mentioned, if/when they do, but those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head.

Still, if Joe is still there in November, I'll eat... well, I don't wear hats, so I'd have to eat someone else's hat.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (hku12)

212
This is like a reverse version of "The Marching Morons". It's the average Joes and Janes that are smart and doing the work, while the elite are lazy, utter morons, all of 'em.

Posted by: Gooshy at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (NPoFy)

213 145 Republicans 2016: Lock Her Up

Democrats 2020: Lock Everyone Up
Posted by: ... at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (uEbPt)

Thread winner.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (s2VJv)

214 I've been calling Cuomo a murderer since he condemned all those people
to death but he was getting such high marks from the NY media.

The state-run media gave me high marks, as well.

Posted by: Zombie Uncle Joe Stalin at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (EgshT)

215 But let's get something straight. You've been championing those who want their freedom to infect themselves and others. You've been belittling the risk of this thing from the start. You and your president have been wishing to put the economy ahead of human lives from the start.

Posted by: Seattle Slough

My body, my choice.

Or not this time?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (dfEoR)

216 This is really very simple. We have loads of evidence this kills mainly the elderly. We knew, back when we had that cluster of deaths in the Washington State nursing home, that people living in those conditions needed extra care. You would expect they would make sure they have PPE and help them get extra help. None of that was done here. Texas and Florida managed to do it.

Posted by: notsothoreau at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (JKNZq)

217 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

The hell? Kennedy called her on it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (ptqGC)

218 That's mighty convenient.

And oh, Cuomo looked like an executive TO THE PRESS.

Thus people went along with it.

His statement about who's to blame won't cut no ice at the lawsuit hearings. And there's going to be 5000 of them.

Cuomo is sunk. He just either doesn't know it yet or wants to keep from knowing it. The facts can't be denied and ordinary people are not going to accept his bullshit about death when they KNOW that Cuomo sent infected people back in the population that WEREN'T infected and a lot of those DIED.

Ergo; Cuomo killed them. And there's what they call proof of criminality because they tried to hide the numbers that had that happen to them. If it's no big deal and in the hands of God, why hide the Numbers Andy?

If he's pushed out of politics that may almost be worth the 5000 deaths because he's the kind of guy who'd do worse for less reason if he's allowed to proceed up the political ladder to higher office.

Imagine HIM a President under the same conditions.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (n08+I)

219 Ace, I think you have difficulty understanding what a "murder" is. Makes sense actually. You have difficulty with nuance.

Heh. Now Seattle Slug is a lawyer. LISTEN TO THE MAN!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (sbyCq)

220 I'm so glad I don't work in a nursing home anymore. I can't imagine the horrors the nursing staff went through frantically trying to contain the virus, and when they failed and had to send someone to the hospital, their relief would have evaporated when the sick residents came back and died in front of them. Even worse, they probably loved these residents like their own grandparents.

Yeah, Nipsy, I'm sure the nursing staffs would like to show their "appreciation" for you.... in a back alley.

Posted by: pookysgirl, former CNA at May 18, 2020 12:54 PM (XKZwp)

221 "One death is a tragedy. 5,000 old, useless mouths?

Oh well."

GOV Cuomo

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at May 18, 2020 12:54 PM (T09ml)

222 Gates has the charisma of a wet towel.
---------------

We've got Gates beat: Gov. Evers,

Posted by: WisRich at May 18, 2020 12:54 PM (G0vdT)

223 And lo, Weasel didst 'sup with his disciples.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:54 PM (NWiLs)

224 Xhe just offloaded some right in the middle of the blog...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:50 PM (NWiLs)

So, you're saying that was a life saving post?

This blog is NOT a San Francisco street!!

You CANNOT SHIT HERE.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:54 PM (Zz0t1)

225 205 People on twitter saying the developmentally challenged were also sacrificed.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (TOwRr)

You mean liberals? I'm not noticing any particular decrease in the numbers of those vermin around here.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 18, 2020 12:54 PM (aCcv7)

226 The NC Triangle area is swamped with NY Corona refugees.

Posted by: mrp at May 18, 2020 12:54 PM (Pqytn)

227
Has anyone figured out how I can be responsible for infecting someone who stays home?

By voting for Trump, duh. Because his policies are..reasons to...making more sick...ace hates granny

BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS

Posted by: Seattle Blow at May 18, 2020 12:54 PM (EbdyZ)

228 Meanwhile the Left's new failure at making memes is a picture of some bikini model that looks sort of like Dana Loesch with "I'M DANA LOESCH, I READ THE BIBLE!" over it. There's multiple levels of failure there (but some pretty good tracts of land!).

Posted by: Ian S. at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (ZGrMX)

229 217 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

The hell? Kennedy called her on it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (ptqGC)

No but it does buy trivial crap like food, electricity and rent.

What a fucking braindead slag.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (s2VJv)

230
No one, really. The primaries they held showed how uninspiring all of those people were. Anyone remotely connected to the Obama Administration is going to be dirtied up by ObamaGate. Democrat governors have performed poorly in this crisis and will not be viable national candidates.

Right now they have no one.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (0QYMt)

Because the powerful Donk factions demanded fealty from the younger generation, while assuming that nothing would tarnish their image. Given the absolute support of the MFM, not an unreasonable assumption.

Plus, the younger generation got lazy, and didn't bother to build their own separate internal Donk coalitions because old-school politicking was too hard compared to sitting on a couch at Starbucks, churning out sick burn tweets. So now that the Clinton and Obama factions are stumbling, they've found that they have no where to go, and no one to carry the banner for the younger Donk politicos.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (EGyGV)

231 Remember the Assistant US Attorney who said he could easily make a murder case against Trump for his lack of response?

I'm sure that he's all over protecting Cuomo.
No, I didn't mean "prosecuting."

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (aO8Gd)

232 Media question to Blue State Governors:

Q: When will you permit re-opening?

A: When the science indicates it is OK. (gives no description of the recent data or any description of the new case or death rates that will be OK for re-opening)

Media: OK. Thank you.

Media question to Red State Governors:

Q: Why are you risking another major outbreak and the lives of thousands and thousands of Americans, by allowing anything other than grocery and drug stores to open?

A: The state medical director and I have reviewed the new case rate and the death rate, and the science tells us we can begin re-opening. (shows data charts of those rates, and describes his take on the data)

Media: LIAR! Science Hater! MURDERER!!!!

Posted by: Gref at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (AMIL/)

233 You forgot the /sarc tag, right ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 18, 2020 12:47 PM (cqteU)

No sarc, just resigned to the forces of nature.

I wouldn't send infected seniors back to non-infected nursing homes, but I wouldn't use extraordinary methods and resources to save someone's life who would be dead in a few weeks of other conditions anyway.

Of course, everyone is going to interpret this as me wanting to ship everyone over 30 in boxcars to the ovens. Not in the least. All I'm saying is that death is coming for everyone and that although it may make some feel better to empty the bank trying to delay it for a few days, these people are going to die anyway.

Posted by: jwest at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (mrrpT)

234 211 We're all just speculating. No doubt they're discussing many options, but I do reject your statement that sticking with Joe is their BEST option.

I don't know that it isn't... but I don't know that it is. And of course, if they DO come up with a better option, there's nothing that would stop them from taking it. I believe they would resort to murder, if they have to.

It might not be any of the three I mentioned, if/when they do, but those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head.

Still, if Joe is still there in November, I'll eat... well, I don't wear hats, so I'd have to eat someone else's hat.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (hku12)

========

I feel no emotion towards my prediction. If I'm right and you're wrong, whatever. I don't care.

But, I just cannot imagine who would come in to replace Biden, outside of the party actually voting for the replacement, who would make as many or more of the factions of the party happy as Biden did.

And, on top of it, what does the unaffiliated voter, more than 1/3 of the country, think when they see the Democrats completely toss out their primary process in favor of someone else who either lost to the guy who won or didn't even run? I cannot imagine it will be kind thoughts that will help convince them to vote Democratic in November.

Staying with Biden doesn't have either of those issues.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (LvTSG)

235 ""Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen."

Just not my mom, I protected her. But that's different or something.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2020 12:56 PM (VpIIl)

236 Cuomo also insisted that workers testing positive in nursing homes continue working.

And the Texas and Florida nursing homes used HCQ to keep the disease from getting worse. I think they had one nursing home death in TX.

Posted by: notsothoreau at May 18, 2020 12:56 PM (JKNZq)

237 There should be an investigation into Democrat Governors in general for their nursing home policies. Especially considering we already knew in early March that nursing homes were at-risk based on early information from Italy and Seattle, WA.

Michigan Democrats Turn on Gretchen Whitmer for Putting COVID Patients in Nursing Homes

Whitmer essentially issued death sentences to these coronavirus sufferers.

https://bit.ly/3dWnU9X

Whitmer made an executive order in April that mandated seniors diagnosed with COVID-19 to be placed into nursing homes, called "regional hubs," to be around other healthy seniors. State officials claim that the policy is effective because of distance requirements that are required between the healthy and unhealthy seniors.

"It's a good move, a good step to make these regional hubs, and I think as we move forward, we have to look at making sure we're really implementing best practices, looking to other best practices across the state," Chief Medical Executive Joneigh S. Khaldun said.

Initially, the state wanted to put the sick seniors at the TCF Center in Detroit but that became untenable after the site was shut down. This meant seniors with coronavirus were put into nursing homes among the vulnerable instead.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 18, 2020 12:57 PM (Do5/p)

238 Posted by: Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 12:47 PM (IJG6N)

I'm comfortable labeling you dummy.

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2020 12:57 PM (uEbPt)

239

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:57 PM (LvTSG)

240 Oh Clyd

Posted by: THE BARREL at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (uEbPt)

241 Your horse troll appears to be a real pants shitter.

Posted by: Zombie Uncle Joe Stalin at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (EgshT)

242 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

Then give me yours. I'll let you know how I feel a bit later.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)

243 Andrew Cuomo is one helluva public servant. I endorse him without reservation and wholeheartedly; he is one of the really good guys!

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick, Mistress Of Doom at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (NVYyb)

244

Most were just old jooos, who cares?

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo, Esq at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (d6DSt)

245 205 People on twitter saying the developmentally challenged were also sacrificed.

Cuomo: Man of Aktion.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (oVJmc)

246 Nobody has caused more people to be infected and die outside the Chinese government than Mr. Shelter In Place himself, Andrew Cuomo.

What kind of an idiot leaves the subway system open in NYC in the middle of a pandemic when NYC is the epicenter?

Cuomo.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (ZLI7S)

247 Posted by: navybrat at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (w7KSn)

I believe you'll find that ALL the Democrat Governors did the same thing.
California, Washington, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island are the ones I know of.

They need to take a hit for that. In most of those states as much as half the deaths in the state were people in LTC Nursing homes.

Figure it out. Why it's almost as if they did it on purpose. Maybe they thought they could pin the deaths on Trump or CDC or FEMA.

Either way I think this has knocked the pegs out from under the Democrats state wise.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (n08+I)

248 Everybody gotta go sometime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FduDJt4MlWI

atlanta rhythm section

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (d7Ww2)

249 If they don't manage to murder you in the womb they're looking to kill you in the old folks home.

I'm thinking us morons aren't checking into any rest homes.

Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (V+K4K)

250 Now that Anthony Weiner is no longer able to accept the reins of Dem Power who inherits the Party?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (x3dTz)

251 Benito Mussolini: We made the trains run on time

Benito Cuomo: We killed all the useless old eaters, because they had outlived their usefulness.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (vcOmj)

252 But that's the point: that's what Cuomo's policy was. Sending infected people back into nursing homes where there are vulnerable, already ill/declining health people who were certain to get the Wuhan flu and die.

It's not about what a shame it is that the elderly are having death accelerated (that's expected), it's that it was intentionally accelerated by Cuomo -- all while telling us during daily press briefings that EVERY LIFE IS PRECCIOUS so the WHOLE COUNTRY must shelter in place. And also: TRUMP has blood on his hands!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (bDqIh)

I don't know about certain, but certainly SOME people were going to die.

I guess it would be like going into a public place and spraying the joint with .22 rounds. Chances are at least decent that, even if you get hit, it won't be fatal.

But some people will die.

You certainly can't use the argument that since there was going to be a low percentage of people who died, that you aren't guilty of murder.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (hku12)

253 Seattle_Slough,

Please point out to me where you have called anyone a "murder" for infecting someone with the flu. Because the flu kills people just as dead. I can't begin to say how full of it you are. All they needed to do was protect those in nursing and care homes, and allow those at risk to stay home.

Posted by: notsothoreau at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (JKNZq)

254
Sorry Clyde.

We will scold
When your open tags
Still stay bold.....

Thats a barreling....

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (nw6Hr)

255 Re business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

-

No, but it buys food.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (L+kF6)

256 246 Nobody has caused more people to be infected and die outside the Chinese government than Mr. Shelter In Place himself, Andrew Cuomo.

What kind of an idiot leaves the subway system open in NYC in the middle of a pandemic when NYC is the epicenter?

Cuomo.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (ZLI7S)

==========

"I believe you mean DreamBoat."
-Unbiased press

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (LvTSG)

257 There should be an investigation into Democrat Governors in general

==

I would just leave it at that.

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (zr5Kq)

258 Michigan Democrats Turn on Gretchen Whitmer for Putting COVID Patients in Nursing Homes

Whitmer essentially issued death sentences to these coronavirus sufferers.

Unlike jwest, THEY see the shitty optics of that move.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (dfEoR)

259 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (ptqGC)

Stats I've seen is about 400,000. An article about how all the rich left NYC.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (n08+I)

260 My dad and I have volunteered for close to 5 years at the nursing homes in our little town, playing old country music to old people. Today, I talked to a woman I know whose husband and sister are both residents in one of them. She hasn't been able to visit them for 9 weeks. That is just wrong.

Posted by: huerfano at May 18, 2020 01:00 PM (9dnxb)

261
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (JKNZq)

do not engage trolls, they cut and paste from CNN

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 01:00 PM (zr5Kq)

262 It's stunning enough that the "public health" authorities in places like MA MI WA etc clearly have no grasp of their own presumed technical specialty, as is now clear.

But the federal level doesn't look like it will be fixed, either. Congress doesn't exist any more (Dems corrupt, stupid, and bizarre, GOP 95% useless and inert), so what will happen to ensure that the pathetic performance of the CDC on this (reliance on very dubious "modeling", reliance on a mass quarantine strategy that is ruinous overall and had no basis even in their own doctrine, and then "phased" re-opening that also has no relation to actual epidemiological sense with *this* virus, as it had become known up to April 30).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2020 01:00 PM (El6T/)

263 I wouldn't send infected seniors back to non-infected nursing homes, but
you said you were with Cuomo.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 01:00 PM (r+sAi)

264 Although I maintain a 1,200 sq. ft. house and two acre yard, according to Zeke Emmanuel I am apparently four years past my expiration date.

Dear Zeke,

If I were you I'd be careful about trashing older people. Right now, we have very little to lose.

Posted by: creeper at May 18, 2020 01:00 PM (XxJt1)

265 Well thank god they stockpiled 100 bajillion ventilators.

What a retard.

Posted by: MJ at May 18, 2020 01:00 PM (gAMkn)

266 I think it was G. Reynolds who commented last week that the Corona Wuhan Flue (my description) response has essentially wiped out every top-tier Dem candidate for the 2024 election cycle. Add the upcoming Obamagate debacle and it's Katie Bar The Door.

Posted by: mrp at May 18, 2020 01:01 PM (Pqytn)

267 Remember when the Demunist Commiecrats tried to find fault with Bush The Younger's Hurricane Katrina response while the Louisiana Governor and New Orleans Mayor sat there and let people drown?

I'm getting that "deja vu all over again" feeling.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:01 PM (XsgXy)

268 And yet if he runs again, he will win.
Posted by: Ann
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"My grandfather said that Harry Truman was the greatest President of all time, and that Democrats care about the little man. That's good enough for me, I'll always vote for the Democrats. [pulls 'D' lever on voting machine]."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2020 01:01 PM (GBHAb)

269 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

--

So say all the people who still have money (paychecks) coming in...

Funny how that works!

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 18, 2020 01:01 PM (O+I8R)

270 ..... the pathetic performance of the CDC on this (blah blah blah) even gets examined and fixed?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2020 01:01 PM (El6T/)

271 And, on top of it, what does the unaffiliated voter, more than 1/3 of the country, think when they see the Democrats completely toss out their primary process in favor of someone else who either lost to the guy who won or didn't even run? I cannot imagine it will be kind thoughts that will help convince them to vote Democratic in November.

Staying with Biden doesn't have either of those issues.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (LvTSG)
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I'm in the "keep Biden" camp with one caveat. They'll stick with him as long as his poll numbers stay viable which they are right now. However, the convention is the deadline. They can replace him up to/at the convention but not after.

Posted by: WisRich at May 18, 2020 01:01 PM (G0vdT)

272 205 People on twitter saying the developmentally challenged were also sacrificed.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (TOwRr)

And yet Seattle Slow is still here.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2020 01:01 PM (q3gwH)

273 Years ago, when Cuomo and the legislature rammed through their unconstitutional gun control measure, I said to some people- you may be cheering for this now, but you won't like where this was going.

There was no intellectual premised for his gun ban, it was based on pure pathos. NY had over one million weapons that were effected, there were no shootings or criminal acts with the weapons they wanted to ban. They became more bold and went beyond rifles to certain shotguns and handguns. It a was pure, unmitigated, partisan power play.

I said to these people- sooner or later they are going to come for something you care about.

Well, here we are Democrats. He came for your elderly parents, friends, neighbors and colleagues.

How's playing as if it's Team Democrats vs Everyone Else feeling now?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2020 01:01 PM (VpIIl)

274 The virus has now decimated Obama's legacy.

Wait, sorry, that was Trump.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (TOwRr)

275 So with this logic, if I get sick I can make make a list of people to cough on and it's totes OK.
Good to know.

Cough...Cough.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (axyOa)

276 Break time's over. Back on my head!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (NWiLs)

277 "I believe you'll find that ALL the Democrat Governors did the same thing."

Why, it's almost as if they coordinated!
Get on the cart, Grannie.

Posted by: navybrat at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (w7KSn)

278 97 With 5000 deaths is two months there must be hundreds of CNAs and LPNs with harrowing, moving and life-affirming stories that would earn a Pulitzer for any intrepid NY reporter with the moxie to hunt them down.
Posted by: 29Victor at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (BJKQV)

My daughter considered going there to work for a while. She has a lot of nursing home work experience.

Posted by: clutch at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (PYnuI)

279 If they don't manage to murder you in the womb they're looking to kill you in the old folks home.

I'm thinking us morons aren't checking into any rest homes.
Posted by: torabora

to this, I say.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YxK-swFREo

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (vcOmj)

280 Andrew Cuomo and I have long had a deal. Oh, it's not what you're thinking! He can't play the fiddle, or any stringed instrument. Anyway, Andy promised me to introduce chaos wherever he goes, to kill as many children and old people as he possibly can and to play havoc with Americans belief in self-reliance.

Posted by: Satan at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (NVYyb)

281 Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (hku12)

========

I feel no emotion towards my prediction. If I'm right and you're wrong, whatever. I don't care.

But, I just cannot imagine who would come in to replace Biden, outside of the party actually voting for the replacement, who would make as many or more of the factions of the party happy as Biden did.

And, on top of it, what does the unaffiliated voter, more than 1/3 of the country, think when they see the Democrats completely toss out their primary process in favor of someone else who either lost to the guy who won or didn't even run? I cannot imagine it will be kind thoughts that will help convince them to vote Democratic in November.

Staying with Biden doesn't have either of those issues.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (LvTSG)

Knowing what we know now, I think they are well and truly screwed no matter what they do.

I would give me tremendous pleasure if they went all the way with Fingerbang Joe.

So... I guess we'll see.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (hku12)

282 233 -

yeah, but in the context of this discussion about deliberately spreading the infection within vulnerable populations, that's kinda how you come off.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (cqteU)

283 Seems like we knew this was harder on the elderly from the very start. Don't know how Cuomo will justify making that decision.

Oh wait, democrat, he won't have to.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (1ISKN)

284 The sheer callousness of Nipsy's comments and those of his defenders exemplify how easy it is to go from 0 to full on extermination of people to protect a political agenda while having the 'best intentions'.

He should be shamed, prosecuted and sent to prison for a very long time.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (NZbXf)

285 271 I'm in the "keep Biden" camp with one caveat. They'll stick with him as long as his poll numbers stay viable which they are right now. However, the convention is the deadline. They can replace him up to/at the convention but not after.
Posted by: WisRich at May 18, 2020 01:01 PM (G0vdT)

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I think the establishment has pretty much written off the presidential election already. They made their bed when they offed Bernie in favor of Biden, and they have to sleep in it.

I think pretty much everything they do now is an effort to maintain power within the Democratic Party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (LvTSG)

286 215 But let's get something straight. You've been championing those who want their freedom to infect themselves and others. You've been belittling the risk of this thing from the start. You and your president have been wishing to put the economy ahead of human lives from the start.

Posted by: Seattle Slough

we learned it from you and the other bug chasers, HIVVY

Posted by: x at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (nFwvY)

287 When Democrat governor hunting tags go up for auction, what do you think the minimum starting bid will be?
I'm going with that they start at $10 million and probably end up near $70 million with many Go Fund Me accounts in the lead.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (pw+jk)

288 207
Yup. I live a few blocks away and saw it on my way to Whole Paycheck.

Feh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 12:51 PM (s2VJv)

You didn't have a Sharpie available?
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (Zz0t1)

Getting ready for this Saturday morning as I go to market.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (s2VJv)

289 *sigh

Posted by: runner at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (zr5Kq)

290 My dad and I have volunteered for close to 5 years at the nursing homes in our little town, playing old country music to old people.

-

Same here. I'm in agreement with another moron on the deaths. It's not the virus, but the lack of care from the family members who visit and tend to the little things like eating, getting the remote control, changing soiled clothing and sheets in a timely manner, etc.

They are dying because those people are locked out.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (L+kF6)

291 There should be an investigation into Democrat Governors in general for their nursing home policies. Especially considering we already knew in early March that nursing homes were at-risk based on early information from Italy and Seattle, WA.

.....

Lol that's not who we are.

Posted by: Barr at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (4b5HK)

292 229 217 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

The hell? Kennedy called her on it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (ptqGC)

No but it does buy trivial crap like food, electricity and rent.

What a fucking braindead slag.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (s2VJv)

Only a portion is about money. It is about having a purpose in life, about scrimping, saving and slaving for 40 years to build something out of nothing only to have a bunch of hysterical wine moms take it away from you in a matter of weeks. Show me that Faulkner thing and only one of us will walk away from the encounter.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (aCcv7)

293 281
Knowing what we know now, I think they are well and truly screwed no matter what they do.

I would give me tremendous pleasure if they went all the way with Fingerbang Joe.

So... I guess we'll see.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (hku12)

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Gonna be honest, I would prefer for them to dump Biden at the convention and replace him with someone like Stacey Abrams.

That would be hilarious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (LvTSG)

294 They didn't self quarantine in Florida, either. Not the ones I know of in Collier county.

On Marco Island, its western and southern beachfronts jammed with high rise condos worth millions apiece, NY owners moved in as soon as the seasonal renters left at the end of March.

While their HOAs, some of them, were insisting that renters not be permitted to stay, they failed to mandate the owners, coming from Cuomovirus territory.

The used the elevators, went to the Costco, Walmart, Publix, the liquor stores, and Lowe's.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (+fPHo)

295 If the elderly voted Democrat there would be bubble boy suits for everyone.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (TOwRr)

296 Seems like we knew this was harder on the elderly from the very start. Don't know how Cuomo will justify making that decision.

Oh wait, democrat, he won't have to.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 18, 2020 01:02 PM (1ISKN)

The media will never ask him about that order.

It never happened.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)

297 Anyone up for pouring big bucks into Gentrifying Brooklyn now?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (x3dTz)

298

My Dad passed away Saturday. He was COVID positive and came from a nursing home (not in NY). He was ok when he got released and came home, but then started to get very sick. Admitted to ICU and survived for a couple of days until his body gave out.

My Mom has it too, and isn't doing well.

So yeah, Cuomo is a fucking scumbag and that shit head brother can FOAD. What a family full of assholes.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (lg/F7)

299 I mean, I give Cuomo a little bit of a pass--a very tiny bit--given that this was a new disease, there was a lot of conflicting information out there, and so on. Yeah, there was evidence early on that nursing homes had the potential to be death traps: but I don't know, maybe he thought not sending them back in would just spread it around even more? Or something?

But even then, for God's sake, at least admit you made an error in judgment and defend it in terms of the sharp learning curve. Don't shrug it off and say "shit happens."

This is like Public Relations 101.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (130AC)

300 Anyone: "Say, aren't the senior citizens much more likely to vote for Donald Trump?

Il Cuomo: "Not anymore..."

Posted by: Rocky at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (LUnY8)

301 295 If the elderly voted Democrat there would be bubble boy suits for everyone.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (TOwRr)

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I don't think the margins are nearly close enough in New York city or state for elected officials to work to murder old people on the chance that they'll vote Republican in the next election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:05 PM (LvTSG)

302 Don't believe CA mandated the same policy, could be wrong, but nursing facilities were "locking down" before any official policy was even announced (just common sense).

And MN (don't know policy there) is hovering near *80%* - yes - for % of deaths in nursing homes.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2020 01:05 PM (El6T/)

303 Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (lg/F7)

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Oh man. So sorry Rev.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 01:05 PM (nw6Hr)

304 Benito Mussolini: We made the trains run on time

Benito Cuomo: We killed all the useless old eaters, because they had outlived their usefulness.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 18, 2020 12:59 PM (vcOmj)

And he kept the subways running!

Posted by: LOL at May 18, 2020 01:05 PM (4b5HK)

305 I guess we should check on the CO guv too, since most of the outbreaks and a good portion of deaths were nursing homes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 01:05 PM (r+sAi)

306 Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (lg/F7)

I am sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Archer at May 18, 2020 01:05 PM (gmo/4)

307 Nobody has caused more people to be infected and die outside the Chinese government than Mr. Shelter In Place himself, Andrew Cuomo.

What kind of an idiot leaves the subway system open in NYC in the middle of a pandemic when NYC is the epicenter?

Cuomo.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (ZLI7S)

My belief is, you can tell people "hey, we don't think it's safe to ride the subway, and some of you might die from this virus if you continue to do so..." But then you have to step back and let people decide for themselves.

However, you can't leave it to people to decide THAT for themselves, and then deny them the right to make OTHER choices for themselves.

If you do, you're just a selectively enforcing dictator, instead of an all-powerful dictator.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (hku12)

308 The Democrat Death Cult lets the mask slip a bit.

Posted by: geoffb at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (zOpu5)

309 97 With 5000 deaths is two months there must be hundreds of CNAs and LPNs with harrowing, moving and life-affirming stories that would earn a Pulitzer for any intrepid NY reporter with the moxie to hunt them down.
Posted by: 29Victor at May 18, 2020 12:41 PM (BJKQV)

Never mind the horrid disinformation slant about "The 1619 Project". The Pulitzer no longer covers current reporting, it wants to cover history.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (XsgXy)

310 jwest,

The problem is that their deaths likely could have been prevented, without taking extraordinary measures. Here's the story on the Texas nursing homes:

https://tinyurl.com/ycavtes4

Posted by: notsothoreau at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (JKNZq)

311 No, they're screwed. They were so intent on taking out Bernie that they didn't really think ahead.

I agree, they wanted Kamala, she got cratered and the panicked and forced Biden through.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (KZzsI)

312
Heh. Now Seattle Slug is a lawyer. LISTEN TO THE MAN!!!

I thought he was pre-med?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (EbdyZ)

313 Mark Simone's NYC radio show on 710 AM at 10:00 had Michael Goodwin on today. As Ace noted in his last essay on this debacle, Goodwin has written a series of articles on this. Today he excoriated Cuomo saying a federal Investigation-where people have no fear of Cuomo-must take place because this choice (Governor Murphy did it too) was barbaric and deliberate and callous.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (+eVzC)

314 How many died on 9/11?

A good reporter might write a story about these numbers.

Kayleigh is probably preparing her presser notes.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (+fPHo)

315 But, I just cannot imagine who would come in to replace Biden, outside of the party actually voting for the replacement, who would make as many or more of the factions of the party happy as Biden did.

And, on top of it, what does the unaffiliated voter, more than 1/3 of the country, think when they see the Democrats completely toss out their primary process in favor of someone else who either lost to the guy who won or didn't even run? I cannot imagine it will be kind thoughts that will help convince them to vote Democratic in November.

Staying with Biden doesn't have either of those issues.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (LvTSG)

Their biggest problem is that shit-show of a primary season, which knocked out their top 16 challengers. Once upon a time, Bloomberg would have been looming large - right up until he spent a Billion dollars on himself, and only won Guam. Next up in available candidates. Democrat Governors - but who's been covering themselves in glory lately. Whitmire? Cuomo? Newsom?

they got nobody to go to.

Except Hillary, of course.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (q3gwH)

316 291 There should be an investigation into Democrat Governors in general for their nursing home policies. Especially considering we already knew in early March that nursing homes were at-risk based on early information from Italy and Seattle, WA.

.....

Lol that's not who we are.
Posted by: Barr at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (4b5HK)
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Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who. This is supposed to be a happy occasion.

- Dem Gov's

Posted by: WisRich at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (G0vdT)

317 "Nobody. Mother Nature? God? Where did this virus come from?"

Oh, come now, Governor. You know very well it came from Donald Trump.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (H8QX8)

318 Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian

Sorry to hear about your dad, losing my dad was the worst day of my life. I'll say a prayer for your mom.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (TOwRr)

319 With 5000 deaths is two months there must be hundreds of CNAs and LPNs with harrowing, moving and life-affirming stories that would earn a Pulitzer for any intrepid NY reporter with the moxie to hunt them down.

Yeah but that's not the job of a NY "reporter" any more. Their job is to appease their subscribers and feed them red meat so they keep their jobs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

320 My Dad passed away Saturday. He was COVID positive and came from a nursing home (not in NY). He was ok when he got released and came home, but then started to get very sick. Admitted to ICU and survived for a couple of days until his body gave out.

My Mom has it too, and isn't doing well.

So yeah, Cuomo is a fucking scumbag and that shit head brother can FOAD. What a family full of assholes.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian

Really, really sorry to hear about your Father.

God be with you and your mother.

Vaya con Dios

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 18, 2020 01:07 PM (vcOmj)

321 Oh that sucks Rev. Miller. I'm so sorry. Prayers for your Mom.

Now I feel like an a**hole for playing devil's advocate with Cuomo. Screw him.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 18, 2020 01:07 PM (130AC)

322 >>But some people will die.

You certainly can't use the argument that since there was going to be a low percentage of people who died, that you aren't guilty of murder.
- - - -

Well, look at the flipside with Gov, Onslee threatening to prevent people from leaving their homes if they refuse to participate in contact tracing.

He's saying: you people who *may* have been near someone infected cannot be allowed near others -- to stop you from potentially infecting them.

Got that?

Governors can knowing put seniors in the path of infected people (and the caregivers that will get infected while caring for them), but *you* cannot on your own potentially cross paths with others and potentially infect them because. . . ?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 01:07 PM (bDqIh)

323 Why don't they just come out and say those old people are "non-essential." You know they think it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 01:07 PM (H8QX8)

324 I think the establishment has pretty much written off the presidential election already. They made their bed when they offed Bernie in favor of Biden, and they have to sleep in it.

I think pretty much everything they do now is an effort to maintain power within the Democratic Party.
------------------------
Without some sizzle at the top they know they will lose 30 to 40 seats. Biden ain't sizzle. Then no House, no Senate, no WH, no USSC. The wailing and gnashing of teeth will be astounding.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 01:07 PM (x3dTz)

325 Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (lg/F7)

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This is simply terrible. I'm so sorry for the loss of your father. Prayers to your family and for your mother to overcome this.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (O+I8R)

326 Cradle to grave:

What used to be a policy envelope has now been turned into rules of engagement.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (FOGOI)

327 Gonna be honest, I would prefer for them to dump Biden at the convention and replace him with someone like Stacey Abrams.

That would be hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (LvTSG)
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That's only because you love theater. Admit it.

And this would take live theater to another whole level.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (WEBkv)

328 315 Their biggest problem is that shit-show of a primary season, which knocked out their top 16 challengers. Once upon a time, Bloomberg would have been looming large - right up until he spent a Billion dollars on himself, and only won Guam. Next up in available candidates. Democrat Governors - but who's been covering themselves in glory lately. Whitmire? Cuomo? Newsom?

they got nobody to go to.

Except Hillary, of course.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (q3gwH)

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Why didn't any, literally any, candidate running against Biden bring up Tara Reade?

Her story had been public since early 2019, and a burst of news about it in August or September, while the party's polling was in constant flux, could have knocked Biden from 1st tier into 2nd overnight and started his complete disintegration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

329 Maybe, but this arrogant meathead has higher aspirations which are being flushed down the shitter.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (y7DUB)

For sure, and thank goodness. I just wish the GOP would run someone electable in NYS. Seems like we have been abandoned to NYC-Albany shenanigans.

Posted by: Ann at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (NDO5Q)

330 https://tinyurl.com/y79hmjf7

Posted by: navybrat at May 18, 2020 12:52 PM (w7KSn)

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This article lumps together nursing homes and assisted living. They are not the same.

Nursing home is health care. Assisted living is not.

Gavinator DID NOT mandate accepting or not denying admission to assisted living. Important distinction too often obscured.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (EZebt)

331 What kind of an idiot leaves the subway system open in NYC in the middle of a pandemic when NYC is the epicenter?

Cuomo.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (ZLI7S)

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You left out the part where the above ground homeless moved to the below ground subway cars to piss shit and puke all over the model of public transportation.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (nw6Hr)

332 OT.

Treasury Department whistleblower --

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7oq2hvl

Remember Lois Lerner and all those discs she delivered to Eric Holder? Well, look again and catch the part about Obama transfering one of his minions into Treasury back in 2010.

Obamagate goes way back in time and covers a lot more ground than just Flynn.

Posted by: jc at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (PuMKG)

333 So there's no reason to keep states closed.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (AFSld)

334 223 And lo, Weasel didst 'sup with his disciples.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 18, 2020 12:54 PM (NWiLs)
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Howdy, amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (MVjcR)

335 I watched this series of interviews from Prager U this weekend. There's some interesting stuff in there.

https://youtu.be/UGNkB2tytjo

Posted by: notsothoreau at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (JKNZq)

336 Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (lg/F7)

I'm very sorry for your loss and I will pray for your mom

hugs and strength

What kind of treatment is your mom on right now?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (G546f)

337 Never mind the horrid disinformation slant about "The 1619 Project". The Pulitzer no longer covers current reporting, it wants to cover history.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

Cover history with a pillow, until it stops moving....

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 18, 2020 01:09 PM (vcOmj)

338 Buzz - my condolences.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 01:09 PM (x3dTz)

339
My Dad passed away Saturday. He was COVID positive and came from a nursing home (not in NY). He was ok when he got released and came home, but then started to get very sick. Admitted to ICU and survived for a couple of days until his body gave out.

My Mom has it too, and isn't doing well.

So yeah, Cuomo is a fucking scumbag and that shit head brother can FOAD. What a family full of assholes.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (lg/F7)
***********
So very sorry for your loss and prayers sent for your mom.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 18, 2020 01:09 PM (wiXsO)

340 311 No, they're screwed. They were so intent on taking out Bernie that they didn't really think ahead.

I agree, they wanted Kamala, she got cratered and the panicked and forced Biden through.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (KZzsI)

If they really wanted Commielah, they really are not bright at all. And they *can* be sinisterly smart and clever, Smarmy Schumer as Exhibit A.

But even people on the Left here in Cali know what a vapid lightweight Commielah is, never mind her whoring her way to the top of the Cali Democrat Party political heap.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:09 PM (XsgXy)

341 Well, look at the flipside with Gov, Onslee threatening to prevent
people from leaving their homes if they refuse to participate in contact
tracing.
-- Lizzy
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Onslee can always call out the National Guard and have the scofflaws' house doors welded shut.

Posted by: mrp at May 18, 2020 01:09 PM (Pqytn)

342 324 I think the establishment has pretty much written off the presidential election already. They made their bed when they offed Bernie in favor of Biden, and they have to sleep in it.

I think pretty much everything they do now is an effort to maintain power within the Democratic Party.
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Without some sizzle at the top they know they will lose 30 to 40 seats. Biden ain't sizzle. Then no House, no Senate, no WH, no USSC. The wailing and gnashing of teeth will be astounding.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 01:07 PM (x3dTz)

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But...the establishment will have a very firm grasp of the party's organizations like the DNC. They'll take the time to cull the organizations of those they don't like after having given them positions in a panic after 2016.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

343 Shuck and jive. Give him a straw hat and cane!

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 18, 2020 01:10 PM (9xIiZ)

344 331 What kind of an idiot leaves the subway system open in NYC in the middle of a pandemic when NYC is the epicenter?

Cuomo.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 12:58 PM (ZLI7S)
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Who put the Hot in Hotentot?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 01:10 PM (x3dTz)

345 327 Gonna be honest, I would prefer for them to dump Biden at the convention and replace him with someone like Stacey Abrams.

That would be hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:03 PM (LvTSG)
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That's only because you love theater. Admit it.

And this would take live theater to another whole level.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (WEBkv)

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I'm a bit of a troll at heart.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:10 PM (LvTSG)

346
Cuomo should evacuate his seat. WHAT he is already shitting his pants?

Posted by: saf at May 18, 2020 01:10 PM (5IHGB)

347 I guess we should check on the CO guv too, since most of the outbreaks and a good portion of deaths were nursing homes.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 01:05 PM (r+sAi)

I was wondering that too, but I thought maybe outbreak zones were linked to tourist areas.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 01:10 PM (hku12)

348 If its gonna be Logan's Run for 80+ years old as a state policy, well, then they shouldn't also be cowards and just admit it up front. Then let's have an election.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 01:10 PM (r+sAi)

349
China stopped reporting their cases/deaths, which were lies, anyway. But notice the W.H.O. is okay with not having any chinese data.

Fake News is, of course, translating china's embargo of info as "china is doing great; better than the USA."

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 18, 2020 01:10 PM (kRGzM)

350 Buzz Miller. My G-d, that's terrible. What a nightmare. Praying for you and yours.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 18, 2020 01:10 PM (h6CJG)

351 So there's no reason to keep states closed.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Never was.

Sick, at risk & scared, stay home.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 18, 2020 01:11 PM (dfEoR)

352 I am very thankful that my mom seems to be doing okay with her case of coronavirus. She's never developed a fever and her breathing seems okay (she has prior breathing problems, so I know what she sounds like over the phone when she's having trouble). Every patient in her wing of the nursing home is sick.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at May 18, 2020 01:11 PM (b6kHD)

353 WTH My brother says the virus came from digging the artic ice; the theme of Smilla's Sense of Snow a fun quirky movie.

Posted by: azalea city at May 18, 2020 01:11 PM (WX+x0)

354 Isn't there an old-time breathing exercise where you take deep breaths that goes: In with the good air, out with the bad air? - I don't think that wearing masks over your face for very long is a good idea at all. You are only stewing in your own toxins that have no where else to go but back into your lungs.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 18, 2020 01:11 PM (lmUUv)

355 340
If they really wanted Commielah, they really are not bright at all. And they *can* be sinisterly smart and clever, Smarmy Schumer as Exhibit A.

But even people on the Left here in Cali know what a vapid lightweight Commielah is, never mind her whoring her way to the top of the Cali Democrat Party political heap.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:09 PM (XsgXy)

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She's of the right gender and color. And she won statewide in the nation's largest state!

On paper, she sounded great.

Then she came out as an idiotic lightweight who had risen to power in a single party state by sucking dick.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

356 This is beautiful~!!!

Is it a Trump speech? If not, it should be.
****

Just read Jim- Sunk New Dawn's speech (link also in the sidebar). Astounding. Well done Jim!

http://ace.mu.nu/headlines/archives/PDT%20Speech.pdf
Posted by: OneIronMacguffin at May 18, 2020 11:29 AM (LKQ6c)

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2020 01:11 PM (Ed8Zd)

357 Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller, I'm so sorry about your dad. How you must hurt. Sending warm thoughts your way.

Posted by: creeper at May 18, 2020 01:11 PM (XxJt1)

358 YOU LEAVE ACE ALONE!!!!

*sobs*

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2020 01:11 PM (MVjcR)

359 The virus jumped the turnstiles.

Posted by: klaftern at May 18, 2020 01:11 PM (RuIsu)

360 "The impetus was to prohibit nursing homes from discriminating against infected people when considered for admission. Because infected people are disabled and therefore a minority in need of oaternalistic oversight, in their diseased minds."

But this is not true in prisons, where we totally have to turn them all lose so that no one dies./sarc

Posted by: notsothoreau at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (JKNZq)

361 But...the establishment will have a very firm grasp of the party's organizations like the DNC. They'll take the time to cull the organizations of those they don't like after having given them positions in a panic after 2016.
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So the bankers will have their own party. The Obama fumigation continues.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (x3dTz)

362 324 I think the establishment has pretty much written off the presidential election already. They made their bed when they offed Bernie in favor of Biden, and they have to sleep in it.

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I don't think they're capable of believing they cannot and will not defeat Trump.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (H8QX8)

363 Cuomo's probably going to be on "The Bachelor."

Posted by: redridinghood at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (wiXsO)

364
"immunity passports" are coming

Are you gonna be "Of The Body?"

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (kRGzM)

365 Obamagate goes way back in time and covers a lot more ground than just Flynn.

--

How do Supreme Court rulings work if it comes out that there was blackmail involved?

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (ADuZP)

366 We're all in this together.

Posted by: The Cemetery at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (JvXEA)

367 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re
business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

When I hear/read affluent people say money doesn't buy you happiness, I hear money hasn't bought ME happiness.
I think becoming wealthy and learning you are still miserable is worse than having no monetary wealth yet an abundance of contentment/happiness.

Posted by: old chick at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (sOete)

368 Cuomo should have followed Trump's lead and ditched the press conferences as soon as they started to go south. But unlike Trump, Cuomo was used to tongue baths and that made him linger too long. Stick a fork in him.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (puu6v)

369 You and your president have been wishing to put the economy ahead of human lives from the start.

This is a classic false dichotomy that the left keeps trotting out because it makes them feel superior and more compassionate. Its emotionally compelling but utterly false.

Human lives include economic factors so you cannot separate them, but that's not even the issue.

This is about feeding children, paying rent, paying bills. Its about mental health, psychological damage, and the cost in lives that staying locked down is causing. Over 100,000 small businesses have closed down. Tens of thousands have died from suicide and health issues they didn't go to the doctor (or COULD NOT get to the doctor) for.

The choice is not "lives or economy" its Lives AND economy suffering, or we end the shutdown.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (KZzsI)

370 .
DeBlasio keeps the beaches closed.
And he will use fences and force to defend the beaches from normal people.
He's going to defend the beaches at all costs to stop free Americans from exercising their freedom.
It's not exactly a Churchillian moment for him.
DeBlasio: "We will fight them on the beaches!"

Posted by: Mongo at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (dHTtp)

371 I'm so sorry to hear that, E Buzz

ugh all of this - it all stems from the FACT that leftists are anti-humanist

never forget this!

they HATE human beings, including themselves (well some are truly narcissistic grifters who do love themselves, but in the main, they're self-hating sociopaths)

the Dem governors all worked together, that's clear if you read the orders from NY, PA, MI - they are all the same. all worded the same. and trust me, our Tranny cannot write an English sentence so someone supplied him with that policy.

- Send infected patients (not always even elderly patients!!!) who are indigent into care homes
- Lock down care homes so families can't help/see/monitor their relatives to cover our tracks and speed up the death process
- disallow the HCQ/Zinc treatments
- FORCE postiive LTC employees to GO TO WORK (that one is the true giveaway, the employees were told they had to report due to "emergency" even if sick, and were denied tests!)

Leftists are sociopaths. That's all.

oh and New Yorkers came to their cabins here in PA too, and spread the damn bug around nicely. they came here sick, knowing they were sick, to places that are sparsely populated and economically depressed other than season tourists, and cleaned out the little stores and spread COVID. when I go back to my cabin, I'm going to have to wear something that says "no really I'm from PA like you!" because EVERYONE up there HATES New Yorkers now.

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 01:13 PM (j9HX3)

372 Her story had been public since early 2019, and a burst of news about it in August or September, while the party's polling was in constant flux, could have knocked Biden from 1st tier into 2nd overnight and started his complete disintegration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

it's almost like all of them were running just to be Biden's VP and nothing else.

and then there were the real flameouts - like Beto who started promising to confiscate all guns and punish all churches with taxes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2020 01:13 PM (q3gwH)

373 Hey, I agree, Cuomo didn't commit "Murder".

He did commit extreme negligence to the extent that he and the State can be sued for every death.

Watch and see. Lawyers are writing the briefs right now in all the states that did this.

If he somehow wrote something down that points to malice or knowledge what the rules would mean and the result then you might get a voluntary manslaughter charge x 5000.

but what's sufficient for me is that he is forever tainted politically. That will be satisfying enough. And hopefully all the other Democrat Governors who pulled the same stuff.

Note they did this all about the same time and it was AFTER the Washington deaths in the LTC there.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 18, 2020 01:13 PM (n08+I)

374
Not to mention that Kamala is a hypocrite and a thug. I really thought she'd be the nominee early on - she had the nod from the Party, and they usually get their way - but she's just that bad of a politician. Got knocked out in a single debate by the 84th runner-up or whatever Tulsi is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 18, 2020 01:13 PM (h6CJG)

375 358 YOU LEAVE ACE ALONE!!!!

*sobs*
Posted by: Weasel

alright, which one of you assholes made weasel cry?

*poffers cinnamon roll to weasel*

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2020 01:13 PM (d7Ww2)

376 Biden seems to be only looking a Black Women as VP choice.
Racist and Sexist!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 01:14 PM (r+sAi)

377 Buzz - prayers up my friend.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 18, 2020 01:14 PM (Cp1I5)

378 229 217 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

The hell? Kennedy called her on it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (ptqGC)

No but it does buy trivial crap like food, electricity and rent.

What a fucking braindead slag.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (s2VJv)

Each member of the on-air talent corps at every national and local broadcast and cable news division is as stupid as a fence post.

The ones that have a college degree or a high IQ test result still need instructions printed on the bottom a boot to be able to pour piss out of it.

Posted by: Gref at May 18, 2020 01:14 PM (AMIL/)

379 When I hear/read affluent people say money doesn't buy you happiness, I hear money hasn't bought ME happiness.

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Yet.... they all still seem reluctant to part with their money.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 01:14 PM (nw6Hr)

380 367 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re
business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

How incredibly, insufferably condescending. Fuck you, Faulkner.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 01:14 PM (H8QX8)

381 Trumpentwatters good again this morning. Afghanistan in the mix. And currently leading with the "Loser!" video of Romney.

Trump's style on stuff like this is not mine, we've never seen it, easy to see how the less serious or thoughtful get too distracted by it - but how glorious and wonderful it is that it's in play when such a despicable, pathetic worm as Romney has turned out to be is there, begging for it.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2020 01:14 PM (El6T/)

382 Lack of money contributes greatly to unhappiness, worry, and misery. People who say money can't buy happiness have never lacked dollars in their life.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at May 18, 2020 01:14 PM (b6kHD)

383 Rev Buzz, sad news for your family. Condolences.

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (iTXRQ)

384 San Franphyscho, the Gov. did mandate that a facility near me accept Covid-19 patients.
It is called (now) the Frank Residences.
Formerly it was called the Hebrew Home for the Aged.
On Mission and Silver streets.
There was a bit of a stink over that, locally.

Posted by: navybrat at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (w7KSn)

385 Speaking about putting things before human lives, how's that abortion thing going?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (1ISKN)

386 Without some sizzle at the top they know they will lose 30 to 40 seats. Biden ain't sizzle. Then no House, no Senate, no WH, no USSC. The wailing and gnashing of teeth will be astounding.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 01:07 PM (x3dTz)

you want Sizzle? Tank Abrams is gonna plop her black ass on the ENTIRE grill!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (q3gwH)

387 372 Her story had been public since early 2019, and a burst of news about it in August or September, while the party's polling was in constant flux, could have knocked Biden from 1st tier into 2nd overnight and started his complete disintegration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

it's almost like all of them were running just to be Biden's VP and nothing else.

and then there were the real flameouts - like Beto who started promising to confiscate all guns and punish all churches with taxes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2020 01:13 PM (q3gwH)

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All it would have taken is one of Bernie's supporting news outlets to push it hard, gain traction, get on MSNBC, and then things go haywire.

And then the question becomes, why did it pop up a month ago instead of 6 months ago?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (LvTSG)

388 I've lived with a little bit of money, and I've lived without very much money at all, and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that even a little bit of money made me a whole lot happier.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (ADuZP)

389 Governor Newsome pulls the usual "give us money" thing leftist governors do every time, blackmail by claiming they will be forced to shut down critical, desired things and not pet projects and sanctuary city policies.

"I hope they'll consider this next time they want to salute and celebrate our first responders... consider the fact that they will be the first ones laid off by cities and counties"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (KZzsI)

390 He seems nice.

Posted by: Joseph Goebbels at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (r28kI)

391 If babies don't matter, why would an 88 year old matter.

Posted by: Born alive act not just for infants anymore at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (yshFD)

392
*poffers cinnamon roll to weasel*
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2020 01:13 PM (d7Ww2)
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*sniffles*

Thank you

*sniffles*

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2020 01:16 PM (MVjcR)

393 Biden seems to be only looking a Black Women as VP choice.
Racist and Sexist!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 01:14 PM (r+sAi)

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No Native Americans.???? THAT BASTARD!!

~Liz Warren

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 01:16 PM (nw6Hr)

394 Well, look at the flipside with Gov, Onslee threatening to prevent people from leaving their homes if they refuse to participate in contact tracing.

He's saying: you people who *may* have been near someone infected cannot be allowed near others -- to stop you from potentially infecting them.

Got that?

Governors can knowing put seniors in the path of infected people (and the caregivers that will get infected while caring for them), but *you* cannot on your own potentially cross paths with others and potentially infect them because. . . ?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2020 01:07 PM (bDqIh)

Seems clear to me.

We (the government), in order to form a more perfect union, hold these truths to be self evident: We know what's best for you, peasant, and we know what's best for the state. And we'll take the latter into consideration, over the former. Every. Time.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 01:16 PM (hku12)

395 It also leaves out care centers. It's not just elderly people in some of these places. People sometimes go into a care center after hospitalization, to recover enough to go home. And some of those people have died from Wuflu because of the policies on dealing with the infection.

Posted by: notsothoreau at May 18, 2020 01:16 PM (JKNZq)

396
Each member of the on-air talent corps at every national and local broadcast and cable news division is as stupid as a fence post.

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One thing I'll hand to FOX... they managed to hire even dumber people than the rest of the media. It's amazing, really.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 18, 2020 01:16 PM (h6CJG)

397 Cuomo is now demanding THAT corona infected seniors, in nursing homes, prepare the meals of those not infected.

#Monster

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 01:16 PM (TOwRr)

398 Going outside for my daily dose of Vitamin C and a clearing of the smoke emanating from my ears. Have you been outside today?

Posted by: creeper at May 18, 2020 01:16 PM (XxJt1)

399 We will murder your granny fairly and equitably. I guarantee fairness.

Posted by: klaftern at May 18, 2020 01:17 PM (RuIsu)

400 Just a reminder of what nipsy said a few weeks back about the flattening of the WuFlu NOT being God.... https://tinyurl.com/y75h59qo

Posted by: Luke Wedel at May 18, 2020 01:17 PM (q+HOL)

401 Time to play, imagine if Trump had said, "Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 18, 2020 01:17 PM (17n5k)

402 You have a blithering idiot as a governor and a steroid addled hot head as a media personality, both owing their jobs to their father making one speech which really wasn't that good.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 18, 2020 01:17 PM (C1Lsn)

403 Obamagate goes way back in time and covers a lot more ground than just Flynn. <<<<<<<<<

Remember way back, when Brennan got busted for spying on Congress. And to add insult never faced any consequences.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 01:17 PM (r+sAi)

404 Going outside for my daily dose of Vitamin C and a clearing of the smoke emanating from my ears. Have you been outside today?
Posted by: creeper at May 18, 2020 01:16 PM (XxJt1)

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Yes.

..... and its FUCKING *COLD* out there....

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 01:18 PM (nw6Hr)

405 Harris Faulkner has a net worth approx. $8,000,000 and makes estimated $400,000/yr

just sayin, that would buy me fucktons of happy

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 18, 2020 01:18 PM (iTXRQ)

406
Sun = Vitamin D

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 18, 2020 01:18 PM (kRGzM)

407 People that want to work - YOU ARE KILLING GRANDMA!

Governors that intentionally send infected people into nursing homes - presidential material.

Posted by: The FNM at May 18, 2020 01:18 PM (WdocV)

408 If people are going to die no matter what, then why are there lockdowns at all?

Taking this in conjunction with the attempt to say no attempts at resuscitation when responding to emergency calls, it is apparent, at least to me, that this is all about not spending resources on the old and infirm.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 18, 2020 01:18 PM (GbPPJ)

409 We're all in this together.
Posted by: The Cemetery at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (JvXEA)

Go F yourself, ditch boy.

Posted by: Urns-R-Us at May 18, 2020 01:18 PM (hku12)

410 Buzz - my condolences.
Posted by: Puddin Head

Buzz, hate to pile on with a MeToo, but, yeah.
My deepest condolences to you and prayers for your parents.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 18, 2020 01:19 PM (dfEoR)

411 Harris Faulkner has a net worth approx. $8,000,000 and makes estimated $400,000/yr

-

I'm guessing she believes she's in this together with me.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at May 18, 2020 01:19 PM (ADuZP)

412 Out: If it saves just one life...

In: It's God's fault

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 18, 2020 01:19 PM (V9sPV)

413 395 It also leaves out care centers. It's not just elderly people in some of these places. People sometimes go into a care center after hospitalization, to recover enough to go home. And some of those people have died from Wuflu because of the policies on dealing with the infection.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 18, 2020 01:16 PM (JKNZq)

Biggest single source of the infection in Vermont was exactly that. Burlington Health and Rehab.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 18, 2020 01:19 PM (aCcv7)

414 403 Obamagate goes way back in time and covers a lot more ground than just Flynn.

Remember way back, when Brennan got busted for spying on Congress. And to add insult never faced any consequences.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 01:17 PM (r+sAi)

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Wait...Loretta Lynch, Obama's *hand picked* AG, didn't pursue indictments against a member of Obama's *hand picked* cabinet for crimes he committed likely at Obama's own orders?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:19 PM (LvTSG)

415 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re
business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

****
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 01:14 PM (H8QX

Says the woman who's still working...

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2020 01:19 PM (Ed8Zd)

416 If babies don't matter, why would an 88 year old matter.
Posted by: Born alive act not just for infants anymore at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (yshFD)

To the Left, there is only a very small window of time in which you're safe. And you're pushing your luck, smart guy!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2020 01:19 PM (sbyCq)

417 When I hear/read affluent people say money doesn't buy you happiness, I hear money hasn't bought ME happiness.

True enough! I've also found poor don't buy a lotta happiness either.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 18, 2020 01:20 PM (Sw+uz)

418 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

What an idiotic non sequitur. Nobody is demanding things re open because they are sad. Nobody wants to re open their business because it will just make the happy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:20 PM (KZzsI)

419 Buzz- piling on the prayers.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 18, 2020 01:20 PM (IIDeV)

420 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re

business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

***

Does starving to death make one unhappy or not? Just checking.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2020 01:20 PM (WdocV)

421 Why didn't any, literally any, candidate running against Biden bring up Tara Reade?

Her story had been public since early 2019, and a burst of news about it in August or September, while the party's polling was in constant flux, could have knocked Biden from 1st tier into 2nd overnight and started his complete disintegration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

Because the Demunist Politboro declared that off limits.

Look at all the flack Tulsi Gabbard took for pointing out what an empty dress Commielah Harris was/is. She actually COULD be a promising future Democrat Candidate. But for her transgression, she is effectively blacklisted by the Commiecrat Politboro from here on.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:20 PM (XsgXy)

422 If people are going to die no matter what, then why are there lockdowns at all?

Taking this in conjunction with the attempt to say no attempts at resuscitation when responding to emergency calls, it is apparent, at least to me, that this is all about not spending resources on the old and infirm.

Posted by: alexthechick

Say it loud. Say it proud. This needs to be repeated ten times a day.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (dfEoR)

423 More black babies are aborted than born alive in NYC.

I betcha more blacks are dying in rest homes in NYC too.

And we know what murder looks like.

Democrats are practicing genocide on their voter base. It's a feature not a bug.

For the life of me I don't understand why Republicans don't beat the Democrats to death over this.

Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (V+K4K)

424 One thing I'll hand to FOX... they managed to hire even dumber people than the rest of the media. It's amazing, really.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 18, 2020 01:16 PM (h6CJG)

I agree. Martha MacCallum and Dana Perino are especially clueless. I did have some respect for Harris Faulkner before the Wuhan Bug mess. But during this, she's exposed her overall dumb-ness.

Posted by: Gref at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (AMIL/)

425 Out: We're all in this together
In: hey shit happens

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (iTXRQ)

426
Atilis Gym opens up, cops show up and do the right thing... awesome video-
https://tinyurl.com/ybueflar

Posted by: redridinghood at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (wiXsO)

427 Vitamin D is the sunshine vitamin.

Take some of that, some zinc with some vitamin C and you'll be right.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (n08+I)

428 Money doesn't buy you happiness, but it does let you avoid a whole hell of a lot of things that make you unhappy.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (WdocV)

429 Free Narcan resurrection injectors and legal places to do drugs that kill 40K+ people every year is awesome, but how dare you want to keep your restaurant supply store that employees 12 people open through this.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (ADuZP)

430 373 Hey, I agree, Cuomo didn't commit "Murder".

He did commit extreme negligence to the extent that he and the State can be sued for every death.

==

Look, the government, federal and state, said

This is an emergency!
Follow these guidelines to stay safe!

The state governors further said - follow these RULES or ELSE I will impose consequences!

Then the state governors issued a rule that actively harmed instead

How are they not responsible? They TOOK responsibility.

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (G546f)

431 421 Why didn't any, literally any, candidate running against Biden bring up Tara Reade?

Her story had been public since early 2019, and a burst of news about it in August or September, while the party's polling was in constant flux, could have knocked Biden from 1st tier into 2nd overnight and started his complete disintegration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

Because the Demunist Politboro declared that off limits.

Look at all the flack Tulsi Gabbard took for pointing out what an empty dress Commielah Harris was/is. She actually COULD be a promising future Democrat Candidate. But for her transgression, she is effectively blacklisted by the Commiecrat Politboro from here on.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:20 PM (XsgXy)

=========

Why didn't she bring it up?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:22 PM (LvTSG)

432 Cuomo got the thug gene from his mobbed-up mom. He got the then Westchester DA Janet Di Fiore to fuck over his ex-wife and mother of his children and RFK daughter Kerry Kennedy for driving while accidentally taking an Ambien.

DiFiiore was later appointed by Andy to be Chief Justice of NYS.

Andy is as corrupt as the day is long

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2020 01:22 PM (9TdxA)

433 When I hear/read affluent people say money doesn't buy you happiness, I hear money hasn't bought ME happiness.

True enough! I've also found poor don't buy a lotta happiness either.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp

It's a helluva lot easier to be sad in a Lamborghini than it is on a unicycle.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 18, 2020 01:22 PM (dfEoR)

434 If people are going to die no matter what, then why are there lockdowns
at all?

___

WHY DO YOU HATE SCIENCE? WE F*CKING LOVE SCIENCE

PS: Here is a picture of a galaxy to prove it.

Posted by: The Fake News Media at May 18, 2020 01:23 PM (WdocV)

435 I recommend sunlight, masks and a .44.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 01:23 PM (TOwRr)

436 Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (lg/F7)

I'm very sorry to hear about your dad and mom.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 01:23 PM (ZLI7S)

437
..... and its FUCKING *COLD* out there....
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 01:18 PM (nw6Hr)

-------

Lucky you.

It's hot here, and my apartment complex sent out a note at the beginning of May that they were delaying turning off the boilers so that my A/C can work for *six fucking weeks* "out of an abundance of caution" In These Troubling Times.

No explanation of why on G-d's green earth that makes even a single lick of sense, but here we are. By mid-June this will be completely unlivable, and anyone who lives in this city knows it.

I'm working on getting temporary A/C units for the place, because apparently that's why I'm paying these assholes rent - so I can waste a bunch more money on stuff I don't want or need. Out of an abundance of caution. *spits*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 18, 2020 01:23 PM (h6CJG)

438 Unmasking is common and not a big deal.

Shit they said on Fox News yesterday.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 18, 2020 01:23 PM (IIDeV)

439 Why didn't she bring it up?

Probably because Biden was a non-starter for most of the campaign, then suddenly was the declared choice and everyone was basically blacklisted and shut out. By that time they were even changing the rules so Tulsi couldn't be in debates.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:23 PM (KZzsI)

440 More black babies are aborted than born alive in NYC.

I betcha more blacks are dying in rest homes in NYC too.

For the life of me I don't understand why Republicans don't beat the Democrats to death over this.
Posted by: torabora

For the life of me, I don't understand why blacks don't open their eyes and see this.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 18, 2020 01:24 PM (dfEoR)

441 Janice Dean's twitter has an amazing video.
Somehow it made it extremely dusty in here...

https://twitter.com/JaniceDean

2 down, I think.

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2020 01:24 PM (Ed8Zd)

442 If it was intentional, then those numbers shouldn't count towards the total. Right?

Posted by: Bruce at May 18, 2020 01:24 PM (vd8XM)

443 361 But...the establishment will have a very firm grasp of the party's organizations like the DNC. They'll take the time to cull the organizations of those they don't like after having given them positions in a panic after 2016.
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So the bankers will have their own party. The Obama fumigation continues.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 18, 2020 01:12 PM (x3dTz)

Here's a question about the future: Does anyone think that we will temporarily see THREE significant parties?

1. Trumper GOP
2. Globalist Party of NeverTrump GOP and Establishment Democrats
3. The Commiecrat Left

Now in the US Electoral System, 3rd parties always fizzle out or get co-opted by one of the other two.

So, which of the three above is likely to fizzle out first? Trump GOP after 2024? Globalist Empty Suits? The Far Left that while they may have heart, have no political savvy?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:25 PM (XsgXy)

444 Do any of these rocket surgeons out there bleating that unmasking is common realize that's actually worse?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 18, 2020 01:25 PM (GbPPJ)

445 Money doesn't buy happiness, it buys distraction from sadness. It eliminates some sources of unhappiness, but creates others.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:25 PM (KZzsI)

446 Unmasking is common and not a big deal.

Shit they said on Fox News yesterday.

Trump should announce he's asked the NSA to produce all communication between Hunter and Joe Biden and any Ukrainian or Chinese nationals and that he will release them one week before the election.

I mean its no big deal right?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2020 01:25 PM (WdocV)

447 >>Unmasking is common and not a big deal.

>>Shit they said on Fox News yesterday.

During his entire career in the Intel community including his time as DIA, General Flynn unmasked a grand total of 1 person.

Super common.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 01:25 PM (ZLI7S)

448 Money can't buy happiness if the government is keeping you from spending it. I am locked down, stuck in a big house that I need to sell, all alone. Trapped. I am comfortable financially but it doesn't make any difference in my mental well being. Happiness is a mental state as well as a physical one.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 18, 2020 01:25 PM (QzF6i)

449 Killing off the old, infirm, the unwanted , the defective why yes democrats all of you are Nazi.
Buy ammo.

Posted by: azalea city at May 18, 2020 01:25 PM (WX+x0)

450 For the life of me I don't understand why Republicans don't beat the Democrats to death over this.

Yeah the black genocide is such a slow fat curve over the middle of the plate, and yet the GOP just stands there and takes the strike over and over.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:25 PM (KZzsI)

451 Atilis Gym opens up, cops show up and do the right thing... awesome video-

Oh, that's the best thing in this whole crisis.

They told the police last Friday that they were going to open. I love the chants of "USA". It's as if freedom were American somehow.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2020 01:26 PM (gd9RK)

452 Mark Simone's NYC radio show on 710 AM at 10:00 had Michael Goodwin on today. As Ace noted in his last essay on this debacle, Goodwin has written a series of articles on this. Today he excoriated Cuomo saying a federal Investigation-where people have no fear of Cuomo-must take place because this choice (Governor Murphy did it too) was barbaric and deliberate and callous.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2020 01:06 PM (+eVzC)
*******
Gov. ASSWolf from Pa. did the same thing

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 01:26 PM (5XwFj)

453 439 TRUMP AND PENCE ARE COMPLICIT IN THESE DEATHS.

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE FRED FLINTSTONE at May 18, 2020 01:23 PM (Pzzpr)

Yeah, Gov. Cuomo is not follwing the DNC- and Soros-approved script, that declares Trump responsible for every death and every job lost.

Posted by: Gref at May 18, 2020 01:26 PM (AMIL/)

454
Poverty can make a happy man miserable. Wealth can't make a miserable man happy.

Faulkner doesn't know anyone who struggles and can't see this.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 18, 2020 01:26 PM (h6CJG)

455 Atilis Gym opens up, cops show up and do the right thing... awesome video-
https://tinyurl.com/ybueflar
Posted by: redridinghood at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (wiXsO)

----
I get "THE MEDIA CANT BE PLAYED".

I think there is fuckery afoot in the land.... again.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 01:26 PM (nw6Hr)

456 In fact, while preliminary, looks like it was specifically shielding institutions like nursing homes/care centers to prevent nosocomial infection (the kind that occurs in health facilities) that accounts for lower death rates in South Korea, Germany, and a few other places. Vs. what happened in much of the US, UK, Sweden.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2020 01:26 PM (El6T/)

457

The camps will be much better organized and humane.

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo, Esq at May 18, 2020 01:26 PM (d6DSt)

458 Why didn't any, literally any, candidate running against Biden bring up Tara Reade?

Her story had been public since early 2019, and a burst of news about it in August or September, while the party's polling was in constant flux, could have knocked Biden from 1st tier into 2nd overnight and started his complete disintegration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

Because the Demunist Politboro declared that off limits.

Look at all the flack Tulsi Gabbard took for pointing out what an empty dress Commielah Harris was/is. She actually COULD be a promising future Democrat Candidate. But for her transgression, she is effectively blacklisted by the Commiecrat Politboro from here on.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:20 PM (XsgXy)

=========

Why didn't she bring it up?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:22 PM (LvTSG)

Probably because she's part of the swamp. Maybe only 95% committed to it, but she's still part of it.

I don't think anyone could watch those "debates" and not come to the conclusion there were positions that were dictated to the candidates. They didn't all independently come to the conclusion that celebrating dudes in dresses was a core principle of their campaigns.

Tara Reade was off limits. However, Liz Warren was allowed to bring Doomberg's non-disclosure agreements up.

Why?

Doomberg was not "one of us."

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 01:26 PM (hku12)

459 Drug dealing is common for gang-bangers and not a big deal. Did I mention it was common?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 18, 2020 01:26 PM (1ISKN)

460 Unmasking is common and not a big deal.

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Ah, the media's "Zimmerman can't sue us because he's a public figure" defense.

Obama did it ten thousand times, so it's a common thing now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at May 18, 2020 01:26 PM (ADuZP)

461 Ace-

Where did the appellation "Nipsy" come from?. The only thing I can think of is the AA comedian Nipsy Russell .so I'm not understanding the reference. Is it because Cuomo's a joke he's so awful?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (+eVzC)

462 443 Here's a question about the future: Does anyone think that we will temporarily see THREE significant parties?

1. Trumper GOP
2. Globalist Party of NeverTrump GOP and Establishment Democrats
3. The Commiecrat Left

Now in the US Electoral System, 3rd parties always fizzle out or get co-opted by one of the other two.

So, which of the three above is likely to fizzle out first? Trump GOP after 2024? Globalist Empty Suits? The Far Left that while they may have heart, have no political savvy?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:25 PM (XsgXy)

============

Commiecrat. They won't be able to win nationally.

They'll putter along for a couple of cycles, picking up house races, a Senate seat here or there, and maybe even a governorship, but they'll be non-starters in terms of presidential elections which will mute their appeal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (LvTSG)

463 Why didn't any, literally any, candidate running against Biden bring up Tara Reade? <<<<<<
It was a weird primary if you remember. Joe was flailing and Bernie had the inside track and so they all said oh shit and dropped out and endorsed Joe.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (r+sAi)

464 Just pump 'em full of morphine and let 'em drift away quietly.

- Doctor Constitution, Barack Owebama

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)

465 I'm forced into admitting it ....if I came across Coumo on fire I would piss on him.

I wouldn't be happy about it either.

Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (V+K4K)

466
Fingerbang Joe.
So... I guess we'll see.
Posted by: BurtTC

That sent my brain straight to:

Joey "Finger-Banger" Biden.

Alliterative AND rhythmic!!

Posted by: Gooshy at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (NPoFy)

467 @Techno_Fog

Flynn amicus John Gleeson will file an initial brief by June 10. This will include:

"any additional factual development I may need before finalizing my argument in opposition" to the DOJ Motion to Dismiss.

"Factual development" - he may claim he needs to interview witnesses.

https://tinyurl.com/y8x3cyhn

Wants to see how far he can drag this out....

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (cF8AT)

468 For the life of me I don't understand why Republicans don't beat the Democrats to death over this.
Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2020 01:21 PM (V+K4K)

The churchy ones DO, but the significant percentage of far left African Anti-Americans don't care, because they are NOT churchy.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (XsgXy)

469 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE FRED FLINTSTONE at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (Pzzpr)

You DICK!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)

470 Atilis Gym opens up, cops show up and do the right thing... awesome video-

Oh, that's the best thing in this whole crisis.

They told the police last Friday that they were going to open. I
love the chants of "USA". It's as if freedom were American somehow.

----------

Good for these people. I hope it inspires others. He didn't hide behind what he was going to do. Said he would.

The police seem to be wising up.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (sX1BW)

471

It's the same old bulllshit:

1. No one got unmasked
2. Unmasking is no big deal
3. Trump does it, too

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (kRGzM)

472 Harris Faulkner has a net worth approx. $8,000,000 and makes estimated $400,000/yr

-

I'm guessing she believes she's in this together with me.
Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at May 18, 2020 01:19 PM (ADuZP)

That's all she makes? Im actually surprised. I envisioned well known tv "news personalities" making $1 million/year, at least.

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2020 01:28 PM (Ed8Zd)

473 What is in that satchel is damning and the establishment knows it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 18, 2020 01:28 PM (IIDeV)

474 I forget which comic said this, maybe Chris Rock: Money doesn't buy happiness, but it will buy a jet-ski. Have you ever seen anyone sad riding a jet-ski?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 18, 2020 01:28 PM (1ISKN)

475
Flynn amicus John Gleeson will file an initial brief by June 10. This will include:

"any additional factual development I may need before finalizing my argument in opposition" to the DOJ Motion to Dismiss.

"Factual development" - he may claim he needs to interview witnesses.

https://tinyurl.com/y8x3cyhn

Wants to see how far he can drag this out....
Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (cF8AT)

Lookit all that blood coming out of my eyes.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 18, 2020 01:29 PM (GbPPJ)

476
Killing Old People who aren't Good Tax Cattle any longer?

This is part and parcel of Obamacare.

Cuomo was just bending the cost curve for the rest of America.

He should get a medal or something.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 18, 2020 01:29 PM (z0XD8)

477 Biden was never the front runner until the day they all dropped out.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2020 01:29 PM (r+sAi)

478
This is the Template:

1. It never happened.
2. Even if it happened, so what.
3. Republicans do it, too.
4. You're a racist.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 18, 2020 01:29 PM (kRGzM)

479 Is it some kind of memetic grand irony that we're talking about unmasking in two wildly unrelated contexts?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 18, 2020 01:29 PM (FOGOI)

480

With the chips, we will no longer have to tattoo your ID number on you, it's painless!

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo, Esq at May 18, 2020 01:29 PM (d6DSt)

481 That's all she makes? Im actually surprised. I envisioned well known tv "news personalities" making $1 million/year, at least.

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2020 01:28 PM (Ed8Zd)

--

Teacher rules.

$400K is pretty great when you only work two or three hours a day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at May 18, 2020 01:29 PM (ADuZP)

482 Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (lg/F7)

Dude......There are no words.

God Bless.

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 18, 2020 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

483 Damn.....

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

484 @403

If I were Trump I would get Grenell, Barr, Durham and a couple of other people and go into the Situation Room SCIF and query every database the government got, Sentinel, Triad, Echelon, etc. for Trumps name, his family, all GOP Presidential candidates, and key members of Congress.

Our IC/LE is corrupt and has been utterly and totally weaponized, it's time that fact was revealed for the entire country to see.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 18, 2020 01:30 PM (T+XCu)

485 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (+eVzC)

Fen, there are photos of Cuomo in white t-shirts where it seems like he has nipple piers
hence Nipsy

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 18, 2020 01:30 PM (G546f)

486 I don't think there will be a 'Trump GOP' after Trump leaves office. I think the establishment GOP desperately wants to get back to their 3-piece suit country club ways of the past. The comity of 'the greatest deliberative body' and all that shit.

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 18, 2020 01:30 PM (iTXRQ)

487 I get "THE MEDIA CANT BE PLAYED".

I think there is fuckery afoot in the land.... again.

If you click on it just right it goes to the gym's twitter page and you can watch it there.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (gd9RK)

488 Lookit all that blood coming out of my eyes.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 18, 2020 01:29 PM (GbPPJ)

Don't stain the VictoryTits!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)

489 367 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re
business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."
........

Hookers and blow makes me happy, hon.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (v0R5T)

490 t's the same old bulllshit:

1. No one got unmasked
2. Unmasking is no big deal
3. Trump does it, too
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (kRGzM)

they do have lots of numbers showing 10,000 unmasking in 2018 (?) and saying these were done by Trump.

I wonder if some/many of these were by Mueller or his team or other deep staters still trying to get Trump. If not, it would be good to understand the explanation in order to push back against this

I saw someone (Fred Fleitz?) say that Trumps administration is much more pro active against terrorism than Obumbles was but I don't know if this explains the vast difference between 2010 and now.
.

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (Ed8Zd)

491 Choice has nothing to do with this. People are contagious before they know they have it. People are contagious with this thing and never know they have it.

Where is the choice in that? I still don't understand why you idiots are politicizing this thing.

Imagine if this happened during Obama's terms? Whatever he did you would, of course, knee-jerk condemn. If he followed the advice of the scientists, you'd be grumbling about "freedom" like you are. But if he opened the economy in order to increase his reelection chances, you'd be calling him a "murderer."

Either way, we'd be saying the same thing: listen to the infectious disease experts.

The difference between what NY and WA did has been well documented. They put politicians out front and it's been a mess. We put science out front and we've been much much better.

I was never told masks didn't work. I was told that front-line medical professionals needed them more. That was true so I largely stayed home. Now I wear a mask in public because, again, I might have this thing and not know. I'm doing my part.

I'm lucky. I'm a lawyer and we get to decide whether we are essential or not. The law doesn't wait and statutes of limitations and things are still running, so we are still working. But this disease is far from over. China just locked down a 100 million people. This fall is going to be brutal. Get the politics out of this. We've never seen anything like it. Get politics out of this. We have infectious disease experts. We should rely on them.

Posted by: Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (IJG6N)

492 imbeciles are going to vote Democrat. Despite whatever you do

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (RKQ/v)

493 Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 18, 2020 01:04 PM (lg/F7)

Prayers up Rev. For your father, mother and your family.

Posted by: Tami at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (cF8AT)

494 Either way, we'd be saying the same thing: listen to the infectious disease experts.

***

Then why is the NYC subway still open?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (WdocV)

495 If all that sweet cash Harris is sitting on doesn't make her happy she should give it to me.

Posted by: wth at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (v0R5T)

496 145

Republicans 2016: Lock Her Up

Democrats 2020: Lock Everyone Up

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2020 12:45 PM (uEbPt)

__________

Good one.

Posted by: ShainS at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (LkeiN)

497 Flynn amicus John Gleeson will file an initial brief by June 10.

The defense does have options here, they should be taking advantage of them. A higher court can tell the judge here to knock it the hell off

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (KZzsI)

498 462 443 Here's a question about the future: Does anyone think that we will temporarily see THREE significant parties?

1. Trumper GOP
2. Globalist Party of NeverTrump GOP and Establishment Democrats
3. The Commiecrat Left

Now in the US Electoral System, 3rd parties always fizzle out or get co-opted by one of the other two.

So, which of the three above is likely to fizzle out first? Trump GOP after 2024? Globalist Empty Suits? The Far Left that while they may have heart, have no political savvy?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:25 PM (XsgXy)

============

Commiecrat. They won't be able to win nationally.

They'll putter along for a couple of cycles, picking up house races, a Senate seat here or there, and maybe even a governorship, but they'll be non-starters in terms of presidential elections which will mute their appeal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (LvTSG)

I hope you are right. What I fear happens is that after Trump, the GOP 2025 goes back to Globalism, just as after Uncle Ron, the GOP 1989 went back to Eastern Establishment Bush. Rumor has it that Jeb's son, George P. Bush, is already being groomed post Trump.

The GOP does have this history of infighting between an Eastern Establishment / Mee-Tooers / Globalists over an occasionally disgruntled party base: Dewey vs. Taft, Rockefeller vs. Goldwater, Ford vs. Reagan 1976, and now NeverTrump vs. Trump.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (XsgXy)

499 Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (IJG6N)

Yea, it's conservatives politicizing this.

You're an idiot. You've actually gotten more stupid over the years.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (ZLI7S)

500 >That's all she makes? Im actually surprised. I envisioned well known tv "news personalities" making $1 million/year, at least.
Posted by: LASue

Well, those numbers are from a quick internet search

grain of salt, etc

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (iTXRQ)

501
Posted by: Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (IJG6N)

STFU, dunce. Fag.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 18, 2020 01:33 PM (kRGzM)

502 461 Ace-

Where did the appellation "Nipsy" come from?. The only thing I can think of is the AA comedian Nipsy Russell .so I'm not understanding the reference. Is it because Cuomo's a joke he's so awful?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM (+eVzC)

Ace had a thread and posted pics of Cuomo in a snug fitting shirt. Looked like he was sporting barbell piercings through his nipples.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 18, 2020 01:33 PM (di1hb)

503 If you click on it just right it goes to the gym's twitter page and you can watch it there.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (gd9RK)

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Thanks Bander. I did get it play finally.

Funny how my brain has been conditioned to think when a video wont play.... its been taken down.... for my own good of course.... but still taken down. Downright Pavlovian....

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 01:33 PM (nw6Hr)

504
Imagine if this happened during Obama's terms? Whatever he did you would, of course, knee-jerk condemn. If he followed the advice of the scientists, you'd be grumbling about "freedom" like you are. But if he opened the economy in order to increase his reelection chances, you'd be calling him a "murderer."

HELLO!!!!!

Posted by: H1N1 at May 18, 2020 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

505 I'd like to see a constitutional amendment that the wives/siblings/parents/children of any federal office holder may NEVER hold that office.

We don't need or want aristocrats.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (WdocV)

506 I don't think there will be a 'Trump GOP' after Trump leaves office. I think the establishment GOP desperately wants to get back to their 3-piece suit country club ways of the past. The comity of 'the greatest deliberative body' and all that shit.
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 18, 2020 01:30 PM (iTXRQ)

There is a large and growing contingent of right leaning folks who HATE the Gopes, and another four years of Trump will just make that grow even more.

I think they're not necessarily over, but it's also no sure thing the Gopes are going to slide back in.

The Tea Party was perhaps a dry run, full of naivete, lacking a cohesive enough message. That's changing too.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (hku12)

507 Governor says vulnerable people are going to die from this virus no matter what you do.

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THEN WHY IN THE FUCK ARE THE REST OF US STILL LOCKED DOWN GOVERNOR ????
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 12:33 PM (nw6Hr)

Super late to this party, but that's the first thing that I just thought of when I read this.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (Ez6QX)

508 osted by: Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (IJG6N

Fuck off you cowardly shit head troll.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (40d0J)

509 266 I think it was G. Reynolds who commented last week that the Corona Wuhan Flue (my description) response has essentially wiped out every top-tier Dem candidate for the 2024 election cycle. Add the upcoming Obamagate debacle and it's Katie Bar The Door.
Posted by: mrp at May 18, 2020 01:01 PM (Pqytn)

So we can cancel the 2024 election as that is clearly a foregone conclusion?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (ejsiI)

510 CVS in Houston has a sign on the front door that all must wear mask because its the law????

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (P4Pk9)

511 >>51
The poster was on a fence. Also appearing last night, a row of large,
professionally photographed Diversity Portraits with each one wearing a
Submission Mask. Plastered on the windows at REI Sporting Goods, clearly
not the work of amateurs. The "Kneel Before Zod!" campaign is ramping up.
Posted by: Beverly at May 18, 2020 12:35 PM (SBMUk)

Not incomparable to Ian Kershaw's observed phenomenon of people "working toward" the dictator.

These are "working toward Zod."

Posted by: Zod at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (QgtlX)

512 Jeff Carlson @themarketswork
29m
Barr on Durham's investigation:

"it will determine whether there were any federal laws broken, and if there were, those who broke the laws will be held to account."

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (5XwFj)

513 That's all she makes? Im actually surprised. I envisioned well known tv "news personalities" making $1 million/year, at least.
Posted by: LASue

She's a woman and will only be paid $0.72 for every dollar earned by men.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

514 @Techno_Fog

Flynn amicus John Gleeson will file an initial brief by June 10. This will include:

"any additional factual development I may need before finalizing my argument in opposition" to the DOJ Motion to Dismiss.

"Factual development" - he may claim he needs to interview witnesses.

https://tinyurl.com/y8x3cyhn

Wants to see how far he can drag this out....

So an amicus is going to ask to open and conduct discovery in a criminal case in which he's neither the government or the defendant.

Fascinating.

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2020 01:35 PM (Ed8Zd)

515 History says our country only has 2 real parties at any one time. There may be an election cycle or two where a 3rd real party shows up, but it will either die out or one of the prior two will die leaving it as the 2nd party.

The center of this country - which seems to be getting smaller. It will have a party. The question is will it be the GOP or the Dems. Which group as the most voters at the tails? My money is on the right.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 01:35 PM (sX1BW)

516 -
--

Where did the appellation "Nipsy" come from?. The
only thing I can think of is the AA comedian Nipsy Russell .so I'm not
understanding the reference. Is it because Cuomo's a joke he's so awful?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2020 01:27 PM

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There are pictures of Cuomo that seem to have nipple piercings showing through his shirt.

Posted by: irright at May 18, 2020 01:35 PM (pMGkg)

517 233

Of course, everyone is going to interpret this as me wanting to ship everyone over 30 in boxcars to the ovens. Not in the least. All I'm saying is that death is coming for everyone and that although it may make some feel better to empty the bank trying to delay it for a few days, these people are going to die anyway.

Posted by: jwest at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM

At least in Michigan, the "these people are going to die anyway" attitude does not reflect the reality on the ground.

I ran the numbers from the Michigan coronavirus website.

https://bit.ly/2WGg7qX

By age group:

50-to-59 --- 367 deaths of 9035 cases = 4%
60-to-69 --- 825 deaths of 8084 cases = 10%
70-to-79 --- 1238 deaths of 5706 cases = 22%
80+ --- 1879 deaths of 5706 cases = 33%

These are the most at-risk age groups and, even in this range, the worst "death rate" is 33%.

So, no, this virus/disease is not a guaranteed death sentence for anyone, not even those in the most at-risk demographics.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 18, 2020 01:35 PM (Do5/p)

518 498 I hope you are right. What I fear happens is that after Trump, the GOP 2025 goes back to Globalism, just as after Uncle Ron, the GOP 1989 went back to Eastern Establishment Bush. Rumor has it that Jeb's son, George P. Bush, is already being groomed post Trump.

The GOP does have this history of infighting between an Eastern Establishment / Mee-Tooers / Globalists over an occasionally disgruntled party base: Dewey vs. Taft, Rockefeller vs. Goldwater, Ford vs. Reagan 1976, and now NeverTrump vs. Trump.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (XsgXy)

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I really don't think a milquetoast globalist has a chance in 2024 if Trump is considered a success by a majority of Republicans.

Whoever wins, will have to at least mouth Trump's issues, and they'll have to be viewed as fighters.

I really think the establishment has a very steep hill to climb to start winning majority support in the primary again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 18, 2020 01:35 PM (LvTSG)

519 Posted by: Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (IJG6N)

Good lord, you think anyone is going to read this?

You haven't earned the right to anyone's attention here.

Shorter posts or go F yourself.

And yes, I'm about the nicest person you're going to encounter here.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 01:35 PM (hku12)

520 Choice has nothing to do with this. People are contagious before they know they have it. People are contagious with this thing and never know they have it.

Posted by: Seattle Slough

My body, my choice.

Or not this time?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 18, 2020 01:35 PM (dfEoR)

521 497 Flynn amicus John Gleeson will file an initial brief by June 10.

The defense does have options here, they should be taking advantage of them. A higher court can tell the judge here to knock it the hell off

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:32 PM (KZzsI)

Yeah, I don't think Sidney Powell has been sitting in her office twiddling her thumbs the past 10 days.

Posted by: Gref at May 18, 2020 01:36 PM (AMIL/)

522 I recommend sunlight, masks and a .44.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 01:23 PM (TOwRr)
.........

Don't forget latex gloves so you don't leave prints.

Posted by: wth at May 18, 2020 01:36 PM (v0R5T)

523 CVS in Houston has a sign on the front door that all must wear mask because its the law????
Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (P4Pk9)

They're wrong.

They can request it as a business but it's NOT the law. It's only a guideline propagated by the CDC.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)

524 Drug dealing or the "taxing" thereof is a gang bangers day job. Close the border, light tight. Nitrogen gas tight.

Posted by: klaftern at May 18, 2020 01:36 PM (RuIsu)

525

The FBI/Wray could end this right now. All Wray has to do is submit a statement to the court admitting FBI's wrongdoing and acceptable all responsibility.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 18, 2020 01:36 PM (rbcST)

526 CVS in Houston has a sign on the front door that all must wear mask because its the law????
Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (P4Pk9)

Even in Travis County, its now recommended and not mandatory

The sign is probably old.

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2020 01:36 PM (Ed8Zd)

527 I'm lucky. I'm a lawyer and we get to decide whether we are essential or not. The law doesn't wait and statutes of limitations and things are still running, so we are still working. But this disease is far from over. China just locked down a 100 million people. This fall is going to be brutal. Get the politics out of this. We've never seen anything like it. Get politics out of this. We have infectious disease experts. We should rely on them.
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This is the issue. You have no idea what you are talking about yet are completely comfortable telling the future.

You are asking people not to politicize the disease but follow the exact same route as the politicians.

Inability to understand data, burning on emotion, and historically illiterate; therefore making poor decisions.

Posted by: MJ at May 18, 2020 01:36 PM (gAMkn)

528 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 18, 2020 01:35 PM (Do5/p)

Don't bother with that idiot. This isn't the first time he's advocated "just let the old people die" here.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2020 01:36 PM (40d0J)

529 Posted by: Seattle Slough

Yeah, well this shit DID happen during the chosen ones admin...and you folks didn't say crap all about that failure.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 18, 2020 01:37 PM (Sw+uz)

530 Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 18, 2020 01:33 PM (di1hb)

O.K. Thanks. I was forgetting that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2020 01:37 PM (+eVzC)

531 We have hard data over almost 6 months of infection from this stuff in all sorts of areas, both closed environments (two ship cases) and open, with old, young, warm weather, cold weather, all kinds of different populations and approaches.

The recovery rate is over 98% and almost all of the people who do not recover (by a large percentage) are over 70 years of age. 70% of the deaths were in nursing homes, which we can see from decisions by governors in NY, Pennsylvania and elsewhere, were increased by deliberately seeding them with known victims of the virus.

All of this adds up to one absolute, unshakable conclusion: this was not a national health emergency, that the reaction was extremely overdone, and that we did not need to cripple the economy.

Just the usual "stay at home if you're sick, avoid loved ones, keep grandma safe from it" precautions would have been fine.

Taking lessons from a tyrannical Communist government who has killed hundreds of millions of its own people deliberately strikes me as not just insane but evil.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

532 We have infectious disease experts. We should rely on them.
Posted by: Seattle Slough

Here's your fucking expert:

Dr. Anthony Fauci's 15 Totally Wrong Predictions and Contradictions

https://tinyurl.com/ybjoef94

Posted by: rickb223 at May 18, 2020 01:37 PM (dfEoR)

533 I hope you are right. What I fear happens is that after Trump, the GOP
2025 goes back to Globalism, just as after Uncle Ron, the GOP 1989 went
back to Eastern Establishment Bush. Rumor has it that Jeb's son, George
P. Bush, is already being groomed post Trump.

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He is, but that doesn't mean he will govern in the same way as his parents. I certainly wouldn't trust him. But George P is not going to shape the voters. Rather he will be shaped by the voters.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 01:37 PM (sX1BW)

534 all the idiots are doing a presser together - Murphy, Kenney (Philly mayor) and Wolfie

ew ew ew ew

I can't stand it

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 01:37 PM (j9HX3)

535 Barr on Durham's investigation:

"it will determine whether there were any federal laws broken, and if there were, those who broke the laws will be held to account."
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (5XwFj)

I would rather him say "will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We must make sure that future generations know that there are consequences to actions."

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 18, 2020 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

536 I still believe shooting the virus is the best way to kill it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 01:38 PM (TOwRr)

537 515 History says our country only has 2 real parties at any one time. There may be an election cycle or two where a 3rd real party shows up, but it will either die out or one of the prior two will die leaving it as the 2nd party.

The center of this country - which seems to be getting smaller. It will have a party. The question is will it be the GOP or the Dems. Which group as the most voters at the tails? My money is on the right.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 01:35 PM (sX1BW)

THIS. The LibMedia either does not understand this or they have too much invested in pushing a narrative of Republicans all being the same, but the reality is that there have been some real intra-party infights in the GOP every two decades or so.

My prediction, however, is that the Ds and Rs will prevail in name, but the 3rd party, after having been co-opted by one of the other two, will change the party which co-opts it.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:38 PM (XsgXy)

538 H1N1...like minds and all that.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 18, 2020 01:39 PM (Sw+uz)

539
I still believe shooting the virus is the best way to kill it.
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Couldn't hurt. Nuking the source also seems like something worth trying.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 01:39 PM (sX1BW)

540 Demanding people wear masks now is like wearing a condom after she's already pregnant.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2020 01:39 PM (40d0J)

541 I would wager that Gov. Cuomo has one of those reputation-maintenance companies that monitor social media/Gooble/YewToob for unflattering information. Then they fill the comment sections with fawning appreciative suckupery, or work on the publisher to have the story/information/video removed.

Posted by: Right In The Yarbles at May 18, 2020 01:39 PM (oYOtl)

542 Chinese genius. Breed a virus that can't read.

Posted by: klaftern at May 18, 2020 01:39 PM (RuIsu)

543 Masks don't Help!

Oh, wait, that was my February talking points note.

Hang on

Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 18, 2020 01:39 PM (2mteh)

544 Just got back here.

Did we already discuss the New Jersey gym being told to have a nice day by the Police yet?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2020 01:39 PM (3D/fK)

545 "I don't trust a man that doesn't have something strange going on about him, cause that means he's hiding it from you. If a man's wearing his pants on his head or if he says his words backwards from time to time, you know it's all laid out there for you. But if he's friendly to strangers and keeps his home spick-and-span, more often than not he's done something even his own ma couldn't forgive."

-No-Bark, from Fallout New Vegas

This pretty much encapsulates my view on slick politicians. The more perfect they are for the cameras, the more rotten they are.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 18, 2020 01:39 PM (J+mig)

546 History says our country only has 2 real parties at any one time.

It's an artifact of the Single Member District Plurality system. You need some sort of proportional representation scheme to have viable third and fourth parties.

See? I paid some attention in poli.sci.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (gd9RK)

547 Taking lessons from a tyrannical Communist government who has killed hundreds of millions of its own people deliberately strikes me as not just insane but evil.

Mr Taylor I think that was just part of the op

there's NO WAY this just happened like this! No way on earth. Out of the blue completely lockdowns, models based on nothing, total shutdown of the private economy?!?! just like that?

no. it was an op. China was happy to help the American Left. They have no choice; their futures are now wound together.

Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (j9HX3)

548 The only reason any governor, mayor, or other authority has any power to take drastic measures like fining people, closing businesses, and pulling business licenses over this is if its a genuine emergency, an actual, real crisis. If that is not true then all they did was not only illegal but immoral and tyrannical.

This was not, by any objective, scientific, or common sense standard an emergency. This was not a proper or reasonable justification for the actions taken. People must be held to account for it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (KZzsI)

549 Nood.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (0NDZM)

550
Nood

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (rbcST)

551 . Nuking the source also seems like something worth trying.

Posted by: SH at May 18, 2020 01:39 PM (sX1BW)

That would include Wuhan AND New Yawk City.

Posted by: Grannymimi at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (u5LFV)

552 Posted by: Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (IJG6N)

You DICK!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (Zz0t1)

553 He kept saying during his presser that we need to be scientific and follow the numbers. Okay, it seems a scientific fact that if you force covid patients into nursing homes that people are going to start dying.

Posted by: BK in TX at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (fhqAu)

554 We have infectious disease experts. We should rely on them.
Posted by: Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (IJG6N)

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Because Imperial College, Murphy, WHO and Fauci all have been such uncanny seers through this whole thing.... right????

Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (nw6Hr)

555 >>My prediction, however, is that the Ds and Rs will prevail in name, but the 3rd party, after having been co-opted by one of the other two, will change the party which co-opts it.

That's already happened to the Democrat party. It is a completely different party today than it was 20 years ago.

The Blue Dogs are all gone and they are now proudly running on socialism.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (ZLI7S)

556 What I wonder is if places like DU have commenters celebrating Cuomo for killing off the elderly to free up state to spend helping the yutes.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (T9Hmo)

557 I still believe shooting the virus is the best way to kill it.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2020 01:38 PM (TOwRr)

No but seriously, if you give your husband (or other type of spouse/partner, I'm not here to judge) fishtank cleaner to drink, that WILL kill the virus pretty good and dead too.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)

558 546 History says our country only has 2 real parties at any one time.

It's an artifact of the Single Member District Plurality system. You need some sort of proportional representation scheme to have viable third and fourth parties.

See? I paid some attention in poli.sci.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (gd9RK)

And thank God we don't have such schemes. the last thing we need is an American Weimar Republic.

There is a reason that Anglo-American electoral systems are much more stable than Continental Eurotrash ones.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:41 PM (XsgXy)

559 Rumor has it that Jeb's son, George
P. Bush, is already being groomed post Trump.
..........

Grooming another Bush?

Posted by: wth at May 18, 2020 01:42 PM (v0R5T)

560 It's an artifact of the Single Member District Plurality system. You need some sort of proportional representation scheme to have viable third and fourth parties.

Yeah but every other system used ends up with.... two parties anyway. Except the dictatorships, which don't count as democracy.

Parliamentary systems always end up with two dominant parties that swap power. EVERY system does. Its just the nature of the beast for politics to gravitate into two opposing forces which clash and control the system.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:42 PM (KZzsI)

561 The Tea Party was perhaps a dry run, full of naivete, lacking a cohesive enough message. That's changing too.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 18, 2020 01:34 PM (hku12)

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It was. It was also enough to permanently turn me away from the GOP. There isn't a thing on earth or in heaven those people can do to regain my trust.

When they talk all I hear is "Chris McDaniel, Thad Cochran, Chris McDaniel, Thad Cochran, Chris McDaniel, Thad Cochran, Chris McDaniel, Thad Cochran, Chris McDaniel, Thad Cochran, Chris McDaniel, Thad Cochran."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 18, 2020 01:43 PM (h6CJG)

562 531

We have hard data over almost 6 months of infection from this stuff in all sorts of areas, both closed environments (two ship cases) and open, with old, young, warm weather, cold weather, all kinds of different populations and approaches.

The recovery rate is over 98% and almost all of the people who do not recover (by a large percentage) are over 70 years of age. 70% of the deaths were in nursing homes, which we can see from decisions by governors in NY, Pennsylvania and elsewhere, were increased by deliberately seeding them with known victims of the virus.

All of this adds up to one absolute, unshakable conclusion: this was not a national health emergency, that the reaction was extremely overdone, and that we did not need to cripple the economy.

Just the usual "stay at home if you're sick, avoid loved ones, keep grandma safe from it" precautions would have been fine.

Taking lessons from a tyrannical Communist government who has killed hundreds of millions of its own people deliberately strikes me as not just insane but evil.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 18, 2020 01:37 PM

THIS.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 18, 2020 01:43 PM (Do5/p)

563 Holy crap, you're still working and touching materials that you then spread around your own office and homes even though you don't know if you're infected or not?

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at May 18, 2020 01:43 PM (ADuZP)

564 Did we already discuss the New Jersey gym being told to have a nice day by the Police yet?

We did. It is glorious. Please roll around in it more.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2020 01:44 PM (gd9RK)

565 The Ds decided they didn't need or want working class whites, especially men, who were once a key constituency. College educated white men are suspect and must prove their bona fides, and so have alienated a big block.

These cohorts have large numbers and are now a big part of Trumps rebranded Deplorable R party. Some black and Hispanic men will join or stay home.

These changes will likely be permanent.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2020 01:44 PM (9TdxA)

566 osted by: Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 01:31 PM (IJG6N

If Obama were president, we wouldnt be anywhere near this situation as we learned from how the press and dems covered swine flu.
Seriously, if you have actual projections or sources that are reliable about what is going to happen next week/month/fall, I am interested (truly) in hearing what they are. So far here, the experts' predictions of doom and gloom and widespread death and destruction have been amazingly wrong --except for the economic destruction that is worse than projected.

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2020 01:45 PM (Ed8Zd)

567 I maintain the proper response to this is to take care of the vulnerable and let the others live their lives

The cost of shopping for the older people and other things would be pennies on the dollar compared to what is being spent now

Hell, you might even put some people to work with a part time gig delivering

may even be a wash in cost

My wife and I now realize we had the swine flu but didn't even realize it

we were pretty sick for 2 weeks and our employees kept us fed

then we were fine and continued our work

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2020 01:45 PM (UUUON)

568 It's an artifact of the Single Member District Plurality system. You need some sort of proportional representation scheme to have viable third and fourth parties.

See? I paid some attention in poli.sci.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2020 01:40 PM (gd9RK)

In our system, third and fourth parties mostly exist to argue for why they should replace one of the main parties.

In its present iteration, the Establishments of parties 1-4 are preventing compelling arguments for why they should be kept as far from power as possible.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 18, 2020 01:45 PM (J+mig)

569 Why does Barr feel compelled to say Obama and Biden are in the clear atm ?

Never saw Mueller do such a thing

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2020 01:47 PM (UUUON)

570 Now that Obama has crossed the Georgie Jr. request for detente concerning Kung Flu

what is big pussy George gonna do ?

Bush is a cunt

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2020 01:48 PM (UUUON)

571 565 The Ds decided they didn't need or want working class whites, especially men, who were once a key constituency. College educated white men are suspect and must prove their bona fides, and so have alienated a big block.

These cohorts have large numbers and are now a big part of Trumps rebranded Deplorable R party. Some black and Hispanic men will join or stay home.

These changes will likely be permanent.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2020 01:44 PM (9TdxA)

There IS, however, one big difference in the direction the GOP must go in the future. The Wall Street Uber Alles part of the GOP is going to have to take the (chiefly, but not solely) White Working Class seriously, and promising tax cuts isn't going to appeal that much to people who already in the lower brackets. Besides, the low hanging fruit was already picked clean there decades ago anyway.

The New GOP will have to be more protectionist, and more like the "One Nation Tories" across the pond. Sure, entrepreneurs are wonderful and to be celebrated, but most of the chiefly, but not solely) White Working Class are NOT those people.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:50 PM (XsgXy)

572 If Obama were president, we wouldnt be anywhere near this situation as we learned from how the press and dems covered swine flu.
Seriously, if you have actual projections or sources that are reliable about what is going to happen next week/month/fall, I am interested (truly) in hearing what they are. So far here, the experts' predictions of doom and gloom and widespread death and destruction have been amazingly wrong --except for the economic destruction that is worse than projected.
Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2020 01:45 PM (Ed8Zd)

If a Democrat was president, we would not even *notice* there was a higher than average flu death season. It would go utterly unreported.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 18, 2020 01:51 PM (XsgXy)

573 So I discovered when I went outside that I have a visitor.

https://tinyurl.com/y8llsbqd

Eastern-eyed Click Beetle. Big guy...almost two inches long. You never know what you're going to find outside.

Posted by: creeper at May 18, 2020 01:53 PM (XxJt1)

574 So I discovered when I went outside that I have a visitor.

#outsidebad

Posted by: DNC at May 18, 2020 02:02 PM (0CeRG)

575 I think I encountered Slug at a CVS, some codger who yelled at me for not having a mask. I told him to fuck off. He didn't like that but he was tapped out of good options.

I blame this on that cocksucker DeWine.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 18, 2020 02:06 PM (y7DUB)

576 Alternate Headline: Media Having Trouble Finding Right Angle On Cuomo's Multiple-Homicides.

"What exactly is the news hook here?" asked Rick Kaplan, executive producer of the CBS Evening News. "Is this an upbeat human-interest story about a 'day in the life' of a bloodthirsty governor who likes to kill people? Or is it more of an examination of how Cuomo's unusual upbringing in in a mob family helped to shape the way he would one day murder the elderly in their retirement homes?"

"Or maybe the story is just that murder is cool now," Kaplan continued. "I don't know. There are a million different angles on this one."

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 18, 2020 02:06 PM (tFWWx)

577 If babies don't matter, why would an 88 year old matter.
Posted by: Born alive act not just for infants anymore at May 18, 2020 01:15 PM (yshFD)

To the Left, there is only a very small window of time in which you're safe. And you're pushing your luck, smart guy!
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Thank you.

To the left: You take the first shot. It better be a good one. Because when I get my turn I'm gonna bring it, and all the devils in Hell won't save you.

Posted by: Donnie Two Scoops at May 18, 2020 02:06 PM (yshFD)

578 .
"Money doesn't buy you happiness."

So why do socialists want all of my money?
Are they going to buy sadness with it?

Posted by: Mongo at May 18, 2020 02:10 PM (dHTtp)

579 CUOMO: We cannot afford the luxury of grandma; let's gun her down.
AIDE: That would be horrible optics.
CUOMO: OK, let's infect her with a deadly disease.
AIDE: Cool. No one can see that.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at May 18, 2020 02:10 PM (17+9D)

580 .

So where does Cuomo rank among the serial killers?
He must be way ahead of Jeffery Dahmer by now.

Posted by: Mongo at May 18, 2020 02:11 PM (dHTtp)

581 Why does Barr feel compelled to say Obama and Biden are in the clear atm ?
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Implies no prejudiced view. Not seeking to find a pre determined outcome. Following evidence...blah blah.

I'm gonna slow roast his Kenyan butt.

Posted by: Donnie Two Scoops at May 18, 2020 02:12 PM (yshFD)

582 So I discovered when I went outside that I have a visitor.

https://tinyurl.com/y8llsbqd

Eastern-eyed Click Beetle. Big guy...almost two inches long. You never know what you're going to find outside.

Posted by: creeper

I'd've called it a Schiff Head Beetle.

Posted by: Bill Maher at May 18, 2020 02:19 PM (+y/Ru)

583 Materialists only see the meat. All the elderly who died were just bodies to him.

Posted by: SkylerKat at May 18, 2020 02:24 PM (SXIn9)

584 Chris McDaniel, Thaddeus Cochran and Joe Miller (AK)

Posted by: azalea city at May 18, 2020 02:33 PM (WX+x0)

585 "Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen. Despite whatever you do."

Soooooo...why are we locked down, again?

Posted by: SanityClause at May 18, 2020 02:35 PM (5gz4z)

586 Wow! Why won't NY reign in this Cuomo guy for being the soulless son of a bitch that he is? Who advocates death in the time of a pandemic?

This guy, like all of his other Democrat compadres is a fucking ghoul.

Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2020 02:44 PM (95j/9)

587 Well, Robert Reich famously said back during the Obamacare days that we have to let old people die. So, the Democrats have a history of this.

Posted by: sillyme at May 18, 2020 03:13 PM (RPGAd)

588 229 217 I've always liked Harris Faulkner, but she's lost her mind. Re business owners wanting to reopen, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

The hell? Kennedy called her on it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2020 12:53 PM (ptqGC)

No but it does buy trivial crap like food, electricity and rent.

What a fucking braindead slag.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 18, 2020 12:55 PM (s2VJv)

Only a portion is about money. It is about having a purpose in life, about scrimping, saving and slaving for 40 years to build something out of nothing only to have a bunch of hysterical wine moms take it away from you in a matter of weeks. Show me that Faulkner thing and only one of us will walk away from the encounter.
Posted by: moon_over_ve

At a Michigan protest rally a man had a sign that said "it took 27 years to build my business that you wiped out in 27 days"
So powerful.

Posted by: Chillin the most at May 18, 2020 03:23 PM (lonOK)

589 LA Sue,

I honestly don't trust any projections. Science works on testing and observation. We have almost no way to do either right now.

Without adequate antibody testing, we have no idea how prevalent this disease is. So we can't really observe it.

With the unprecedented, yet still not universal, levels of PPE usage and social distancing we have no baseline to judge how effective these measures are nor to what extent they are even being used.

So I can't give you a source for accurate projections. We do know we have never seen this bug before. We know it is at least ten times deadlier than any flu we've seen since pre WWI. It's more contagious than just about anything we've ever seen and we don't even yet know if, once recovered, or vaccinated, you can't get it again.

People will accuse me of lying but I'm not really saying anything controversial here. Some diseases like chickenpox are one and done. You get them, (or a vaccine) and you never get them again.

Others, like a lot of coronaviruses, don't have long-lasting antibodies. You get the same colds again and again. There are four known coronaviruses that cause a good chunk of the colds we get. We get them again and again. Antibodies are useless against them. If that's the case with this thing, we are in trouble.

Many people who recover from this virus leave with permanent lung issues. And if they get this thing again, they are in more danger than before. If this thing runs through us every year, chipping away at our lungs every time, woe be us.

I hope you all realize that I hope you all are correct. That this is just SARS or MERS and we are overblowing this. No country's government seems to agree with you, but I sincerely hope this is true. But we can't assume it's true. Texas is now seeing a spike in cases after they reopened movie theaters and things. That sucks for Texas if true. It sucks for all of us, in fact.

I have never claimed to be an expert on this thing. I'm not the one saying it's safe to reopen nightclubs or sports arenas. That's what you guys are doing. Not me.

I'm a lawyer. Not an infectious disease expert. Not a doctor. So I'm not pretending that I am.

Posted by: Seattle Slough at May 18, 2020 03:37 PM (IJG6N)

590 Can't make an omelette without breaking a few geriatric eggs.

Posted by: Socratease at May 18, 2020 04:27 PM (2GbWn)

591 And whats his opinion on Canker Worms dose he want protection for Lizards and Salamanders

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 18, 2020 04:52 PM (FLiOE)

592 Left's Standard Out of Power: If it saves even one life . . .Left's Standard in Power: You must break eggs to make an omelet . . .

Posted by: Nikola's Notion at May 19, 2020 06:58 AM (hrHLc)

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