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Chris Hayes: Why Yes, I Suppose There Is a Conspiratorial Subculture On the Left That Blames Everything on Russia, and I Suppose I've Been a Leader of That Conspiratorial Subculture.
But You Know Who's Really to Blame Here? Russia
[Q:] I don’t want to put MSNBC in the same category as certain other cable-news networks at all, but do you think that cable news generally and MSNBC included have played some role in fostering a climate where paranoia about the other side, or hyper-partisanship, or conspiracy theorizing, can find a common ground? I think it's actually fairly endemic, and part of human-information processing at all times. I don't know. I think tha'’s often the way that we make sense of the world. If you go back and you look at cointelpro stuff, and essentially the kind of combination of dirty tricks and surveillance that the F.B.I. was using on Black Panthers and others, one of the effects was that it drove them nuts. They all started going a little crazy and getting super paranoid, but that was part of the point of it. So I also don't want to take the agency away from the actual actor here, which is the Russian government doing these things in 2016 that really had very profound, tangible effects, and have produced some amount of craziness and paranoia. I don't want to lose sight of their agency in producing that state of affairs. I think that, in some ways, was the seed that has flowered into whatever we’re dealing with now.Notice that when the Priestly Caste detects a conspiracy theory pushed by people they disapprove of, there is no nuance about whether conspiracy theories are bad or signs of stupidity. They're in full Finger Wagging Mode. But whenever the left starts pushing conspiracy theories -- which is most of the time, actually, from 9/11 Truthers to Russia Truthers -- suddenly people like Chris Hayes say that such thinking is "endemic" to the human condition, just a fundamental part of our information-processing functions, really, and that he doesn't want to judge because "the world is a confusing place and I'm not sure I have all the answers," and also, most of all, It's Russia's Fault Anyway.
But there’s also a certain brand of #ResistanceDemocrat who, from watching MSNBC, or from certain things on Twitter, can get into a more conspiratorial mindset. There is absolutely a subculture of conspiratorial thinking among Democrats, or the broad anti-Trump coalition. I would a hundred per cent concede that. That is borne of a lot of things. I think, again, I do think--I'm just speaking for myself--and this is . . . I don't know. The world's confusing, and I don't feel like I know all the answers. What I try to do, to the best of my ability--I know that I fail all the time--is to try to maintain the best habits of mind, if that makes sense.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: browndog at May 11, 2020 03:10 PM (gD6Ka)
Posted by: filbert at May 11, 2020 03:10 PM (NiXyF)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 11, 2020 03:10 PM (LFwx9)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:11 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 11, 2020 03:11 PM (NWiLs)
Can't stop the signal.
Posted by: filbert at May 11, 2020 03:12 PM (NiXyF)
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 11, 2020 03:12 PM (Y7v+0)
Posted by: MSM breakup lines at May 11, 2020 03:12 PM (KvRqW)
4pm EDT (about 45 minutes from now)
PDT Press Briefing on Testing
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 03:13 PM (kGLPx)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 11, 2020 03:13 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 03:13 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 11, 2020 03:13 PM (Z4rgH)
It's not a coincidence. It's a playbook. They do it every time.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:13 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 11, 2020 03:13 PM (Y7v+0)
Posted by: cornbred at May 11, 2020 03:13 PM (A751K)
Democrats, or the broad anti-Trump coalition. I would a hundred per cent
concede that. That is borne of a lot of things.
You mean like MSNBC saying it was the Russians 24/7 for 4 years? Also, because your viewers are credulous morons?
Posted by: pep at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Roy at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (Ti+Tv)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 11, 2020 03:10 PM (LFwx9)
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His sweet ride.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (8jtwY)
Without a pretext, they will be seen as unreasonable zealots pursuing an (anti-)moral crusade - as we know they truly are.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (J+mig)
Nope, sorry, makes no sense at all.
Posted by: Bruce at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: China laughing their asses off at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (Zmnko)
New hotness: "Just because I'm a lying sack of shit doesn't mean that all my lies weren't ultimately true!"
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (N9G0H)
He knew too much of how things got done behind the scenes w/ CIA and FBI bc he'd been there throughout the Obama admin
He know the questions to ask, where the bodies were buried
Had to isolate him from Trump
Posted by: McCool at May 11, 2020 03:15 PM (KvRqW)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (8jtwY)
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No that's Rachel Maddow.
Posted by: cornbred at May 11, 2020 03:15 PM (A751K)
I'm not sure who Chris Hayes is. Is he the one who looks like a pseudo intellectual soy boy?
It's the media. I'm gonna need more that that to go on.
Posted by: pep at May 11, 2020 03:15 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 11, 2020 03:13 PM (Z4rgH)
That is an ace-worthy quote, my friend. I actually thought it might be ace. One of the highest honors one can bestow around here.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:15 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (8jtwY)
You are confusing him with Jonah Goldberg.
Posted by: Roy at May 11, 2020 03:15 PM (Ti+Tv)
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Good lord, what a dumb and true and sissy comment. More sissy than dumb and true.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 03:15 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 11, 2020 03:15 PM (xInes)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (oVJmc)
I've notice "agency" is really the hot buzzword for progressives at the moment. All the cool kids are using it.
Posted by: Ktgreat at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (AD3JT)
The mark of a good conspiracy theory is that it fits and explains observed phenomena in a novel and interesting pattern
Russians conspiring to steal our elections us a great 1970s-80s theory
But now it's just lame
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (LFwx9)
Posted by: filbert at May 11, 2020 03:10 PM (NiXyF)
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I just want a refund on my $400 worth of Red Sox tickets for August that I doled out for my dad's 80th birthday b/c Fenway was on his bucket list. Can't risk taking him there, or anywhere. Been doing this for a decade.
Posted by: jhawk90 at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (/ZYFC)
Posted by: Chris Hayes at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (uIB23)
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (N9G0H)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: redsweater at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (UsQGB)
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (N9G0H)
Posted by: China laughing their asses off at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (Zmnko)
I notice he doesn't list these things.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 03:17 PM (oVJmc)
"take the agency away..."
I've notice "agency" is really the hot buzzword for progressives at the moment. All the cool kids are using it.
Posted by: Ktgreat at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (AD3JT)
You know what doesn't have "agency"? An unborn baby. Well it does but we don't like to talk about it.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:17 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (8jtwY)
Posted by: 13times at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (K3B2k)
"Yes, I do admit I spread those conspiracy theories -- but the Jews made me do it!"
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (N9G0H)
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Didn't it turn out that all they did was drop a few grand on FB ads?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (dfRN6)
I remember Fauci throwing that Hail Mary pass @ Notre Dame.
I don't buy yellow bananas WHY.. I hate fuckin 'bananas but I do admit the ettes can bake 'em,shake 'em and cum out on the other side,, A peeling NO?
Posted by: saf at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (5IHGB)
I notice he doesn't list these things.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 03:17 PM (oVJmc)
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"these things"
"effects"
What things? What effects?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: MSM Monty at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (KvRqW)
Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE CHRIS HAYES at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (sWM8x)
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If the Russian government was the actor, the media and the left was the audience.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Bruce at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (LvTSG)
Profound, tangible ones.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: vmom 2020
Just the unlucky opportunity?
I read something this morning that he intended to look over all the intelligence agencies that had so badly performed under Obama (and let's face it, Bush also).
Their incompetence and malfeasance couldn't be exposed.
And people from the Obama Regime had a grudge with him because he started to turn on them.
A lot of this has only been made possible because Admiral Mike Rogers (running NSA during the latter Obama Regime years) told Donald Trump about a lot of things as he was leaving in 2016. Rogers as head of NSA started to refuse to cooperate with the Obama Regime, and they would have gone after him too, if Hillary had been elected.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (vcOmj)
So . . . he's saying that the awareness that the Russians were spying on them drove Trump admin officials into a state of paranoia and craziness?
Interesting theory.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 11, 2020 03:19 PM (SFAhl)
Posted by: 13times at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (K3B2k)
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There was also all the not hacking the DNC.
Can't forget that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:19 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Mr. Barky at May 11, 2020 03:19 PM (hKi6n)
And ignore all reporting to the contrary. This is bad for the country.,
Posted by: FloridaMan -- Wu Flu lockdown is insanity at May 11, 2020 03:19 PM (r28kI)
Posted by: Flip Wislon at May 11, 2020 03:19 PM (nFRLh)
Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE CHRIS HAYES at May 11, 2020 03:18 PM (sWM8x)
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Is it fair to call it a subculture?
Is it more of the dominant culture?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:19 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2020 03:19 PM (aQfmB)
the actual actor here, which is the Russian government doing these
things in 2016 that really had very profound, tangible effects,
I notice he doesn't list these things.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 03:17 PM
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Well the Russian Government did spend $25,000 in face book ads written in Russian to try and influence the election. Just sayin......
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 03:20 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 03:20 PM (Zmnko)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy
Well, he's the white one. Toure is the black one.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 03:20 PM (+y/Ru)
They never do, at any level.
The "endemic" feature of the Left is an aversion to specificity.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 11, 2020 03:20 PM (E5FCx)
Posted by: filbert at May 11, 2020 03:10 PM (NiXyF)
Mr. Mary Cloggenstein (my next door neighbor) is a huge sports fan, about all he does with his time is watch ESPN alternating with MS-you're a racist. We were over there the other night (outdoors) and he is having huge withdrawal from the sports. I'm probably not a nice person, but it absolutely made my week.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 11, 2020 03:20 PM (FamXy)
Posted by: Mr. Barky at May 11, 2020 03:20 PM (hKi6n)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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You say that like it's a bad thing...
Posted by: Shep! at May 11, 2020 03:21 PM (vg8iE)
Russia, pro-Trump ads on Facebook:
$100,000
The entire media complex of the developed world, bashing Trump 24-hours-a-day and anointing Hillary as Queen and Goddess:
$2.4 trillion
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 03:21 PM (N9G0H)
Posted by: hogmartin at May 11, 2020 03:21 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 11, 2020 03:21 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Chris Hayes at May 11, 2020 03:21 PM (uIB23)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 03:22 PM (EWRow)
Posted by: Jan at May 11, 2020 03:22 PM (Qf83p)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)
This is alarmingly outside of his field of expertise.
Which is dogs, hot, the selling of.
Posted by: hogmartin
No way am I buying a penis-shaped meat product from that guy.
Posted by: pep at May 11, 2020 03:22 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Mr. Barky at May 11, 2020 03:22 PM (hKi6n)
Which is dogs, hot, the selling of.
Posted by: hogmartin
What makes him perfectly suited for selling hot dogs is that they don't need to be flipped, like burgers do. The flipping part is a bit too complicated for him.
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 03:22 PM (N9G0H)
The mark of a good conspiracy theory is that it fits and explains observed phenomena in a novel and interesting pattern
Russians conspiring to steal our elections us a great 1970s-80s theory
But now it's just lame
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 11, 2020 03:16 PM (LFwx9)
And to be compelling, it has to be plausible and have a reasonable motive.
Is there any reason why Putin would prefer Trump to Hillary, who had a long habit of giving America's enemies and rivals everything they wanted on a silver platter?
Russian collusion fails on all possible motives other than sowing discord, which is out of character for Putin. He likes when things are predictable.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 03:23 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Chris Hayes at May 11, 2020 03:23 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: eleven at May 11, 2020 03:23 PM (Qf83p)
Posted by: Furious George at May 11, 2020 03:23 PM (9vQJW)
It couldn't be about China (since China is paying them) but it had to be a foreign menace
The Obama admin was spying on EVERYBODY in violation of the 4th amendment. (remember Edward Snowden?)
So the Jan 2017 meeting was to come up with a "cover" for all the illegal spying. Since you can't spy on Americans, they pretended the Americans they were spying on were foreign assets. (even, ludicrously, Trump)
that's it in a nutshell.
Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2020 03:23 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: BourbonChicken with a Face Colander at May 11, 2020 03:23 PM (LxTcq)
Soviets lost the cold war, but they had moved into American journalism by then, and Hollywood, schools, ... Cloward-Piven, Ayers moved into academia instead of bombing and murder ... OK, blame Russia, and kill all the Russian spies ... who are now part and parcel of DeepState (many of them in media).
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 03:24 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: eleven at May 11, 2020 03:23 PM (Qf83p)
Oh, he's definitely that weirdo. The one looking out the window and quietly crying into his sweater.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 11, 2020 03:24 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Chris Hayes at May 11, 2020 03:24 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Mr Putin in a disguise at May 11, 2020 03:24 PM (dBdHe)
The Russian government doing these things in 2016 that really had very profound, tangible effects, serious you guys.
Posted by: BourbonChicken with a Face Colander
You know, the things.
Posted by: pep at May 11, 2020 03:24 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 11, 2020 03:25 PM (ch6++)
And people from the Obama Regime had a grudge with him because he started to turn on them.
Exactly.
And with an audit he would have found what mike Roger's discovered....they were spying on political opponents and using subcontractors to do it.
It was open season.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 11, 2020 03:25 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (8jtwY)
No that's Rachel Madcow.
Hayes is the one with the dick-shaped mouth.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 11, 2020 03:25 PM (z79tQ)
They tried to get Obama to fire him in late 2016. Obama decided it wasn't worth it given his administration was coming to an end.
A big reason they took down Flynn was because as Trump's NSA he would have to know about the entire Russia investigation that was still going on. And then they want after Sessions to get him to recuse because with only days left in his term Obama signed and EO to change the order of succession at the DOJ. If the AG was unable to perform his duties then the next in command would be the US Attorney in DC, Channing Phillips. Phillips is a longtime friend of Eric Holder's.
On the day Sessions was sworn in, Trump signed his own EO that changed the order of succession back to the DAG. At the time the acting AG was Dana Boente but shortly thereafter Rod Rosenstein was sworn in.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 03:25 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Tampon at May 11, 2020 03:25 PM (uIB23)
Posted by: filbert at May 11, 2020 03:10 PM (NiXyF)
Dale Hansen is a big fat moron.
Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Mr. Barky at May 11, 2020 03:25 PM (hKi6n)
Posted by: mrp at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (Pqytn)
as long as their donation checks to the Clinton Foundation cleared
Posted by: McCool at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (KvRqW)
Transcript AG Barr exclusive @CBSNews indicates expansion probe "Durham's investigation and US Attorney Jensen, I'm gonna ask him to do some more work on different items as well...I'm gonna wait till all the evidence is, and I get their recommendations as to..how serious it is"
Also....
@Elex_Michaelson
#BREAKING @GavinNewsom says all Western state Governors & their legislatures are jointly asking for a $1 trillion aid package for states & localities.
F
U
ALL
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (cF8AT)
It is Human Nature- and therefore, #Science!- to be suspicious of Donald Trump!
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (8DRUP)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (aQfmB)
That's progress that probably cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars and dozens of visits to his shrink.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 03:27 PM (kGLPx)
So, who, or what, is a Chris Hayes and why should I give an actual fuck?
He, (?), sounds just like every other twat on the tubes and my crop of give a fucks is barren.
Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 11, 2020 03:27 PM (WFAUg)
NO STATE AID
NO BAILOUTS FOR SHITTY GOVERNORS
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 03:27 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at May 11, 2020 03:27 PM (ssz2a)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 11, 2020 03:10 PM (LFwx9)
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My guess? Luck and timing. Flynn was hated by the Obama admin well before Trump came on to the scene. He disapproved of the Iran deal. He disapproved of weaponizing the IC. He wanted to root out corruption and political gladhanding in the IC.
When Flynn went to work with the enemy (Trump) they had to ratchet it up, but they were working on him well in advance.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 03:27 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:27 PM (LvTSG)
My point isn't that it matters, it's just that it's another laser pointer lie we go around debunking, while they have a good hearty laugh.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:28 PM (yokAj)
Fuck you, you girly simp. Your'e nothing but a Democrat Eunuch. That doesn't really involve much thinking, just an open willingness to bodily intrusion.
Sincerely,
Every Thinking Person
Posted by: Marcus T at May 11, 2020 03:28 PM (VpIIl)
There's no direct evidence that the Russians did the DNC hack. Which revealed that the DNC was out to fuck Bernie
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 11, 2020 03:28 PM (9TdxA)
NO STATE AID
NO BAILOUTS FOR SHITTY GOVERNORS
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 03:27 PM (j9HX3)
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I really don't think they're going to get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:28 PM (LvTSG)
Is that House bill really "6666?"
As in the number of Satan, but with an extra 6 for it's extra evilness?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 03:28 PM (+iODn)
Posted by: Ktgreat at May 11, 2020 03:28 PM (AD3JT)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (r+sAi)
NO BAILOUTS FOR SHITTY GOVERNORS
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 03:27 PM (j9HX3)
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The federal gubmint has a spare hospital ship that the President can send to Washington state.
Posted by: mrp at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (Pqytn)
#BREAKING @GavinNewsom says all Western state Governors & their legislatures are jointly asking for a $1 trillion aid package for states & localities.
F
U
ALL
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (cF8AT)
***************
Oh, Hell No!
Posted by: redridinghood at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (wiXsO)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (nRWPy)
The same shit it's been doing in every US election it's been doing for the last 50 years.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (Zz0t1)
Is that like "Confederate Democrat" before people figured out they were really just about the slavery, but sounds classier than "Klukker".
Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (1g7ch)
Spitballs, talking behind her back, writing stuff on the board.. whatever. You know when you did it, she would go apeshit, accusing everyone of this that or the other, and you knew damn well she couldn't pin it on anybody. She might THINK she knows it was you, but good luck explaining it to my parents or the principal, honey.
You got nothin'.
That's sorta what this is. Corporate media is the teacher. Russia is the shitty little Eddie Haskell punk kid.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Dickhead Newsreader at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (e1mEI)
The MSM will never report on this of course. They spent 24/7 reporting the mini crash of March though.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (FiUMj)
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Is there any reason why Putin would prefer Trump to Hillary, who had a long habit of giving America's enemies and rivals everything they wanted on a silver platter?
...
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 03:23 PM (J+mig)
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No, and it is why the entire idea was absurd on its face even before any evidence came out.
Put yourself in Putin's shoes. Who would you rather have - the woman who sold you all of America's uranium and brought you a "reset" button, or a dude who is a total wild card and seems to have no interest in anyone's status quo?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (hYcqw)
I really don't think they're going to get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:28 PM (LvTSG)
I thought Trump already said Leftist states wouldn't be getting a bailout.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)
Remember Osama is dead and isis is on the run?
Flynn said, yeah, no. Al Qaida is alive and isis is growing.
Obama flipped out. Flynn was right but obama never got over being dissed.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (JKNZq)
First one to guess right gets an Unlimited Skull Platinum Membership.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (yokAj)
But there is a difference in kind between crazy kooky conspiracy theories and stating, in all seriousness, that the President of the United States is a Russian agent.
Rush was going off today about how the Republicans have known for, what, a year, that Comey and Clapper and Rice, etc., etc. were saying one thing in public and then testifying that there was no evidence of anything Russia Russia Russia and yet, apart from Nunes and Jordan, not one Republican ever got in their faces and said "You're lying."
As Rush kept pointing out, you damn well better believe the Dems would have leaked that testimony if the parties had been reversed.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (GbPPJ)
NO BAILOUTS FOR SHITTY GOVERNORS
The thought here in Illinois is we are gonna be locked down till the Feds bail out our pension syatem.
Posted by: Mallamutt, The State of Illinois says I am essential. at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (uIB23)
Elex_Michaelson
#BREAKING @GavinNewsom says all Western state Governors their
legislatures are jointly asking for a $1 trillion aid package for states
localities.
F
U
ALL
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (cF8AT)
***************
Oh, Hell No!
Posted by: redridinghood at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (wiXsO)
TORPEDO YOUR OWN ECONOMIES AND ASK OTHER PEEPO TO FOOT THE BILL.
BOOOOGIDY BOOOOGGITTY BOOOOOOOOO!
Posted by: The Boy Who Cried Covid at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (dkdmV)
He knew too much of how things got done behind the scenes w/ CIA and FBI bc he'd been there throughout the Obama admin
Let me get this straight- he knows stuff and he's alive?! Interesting approach.
Posted by: Hillary at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (pbStR)
As in the number of Satan, but with an extra 6 for it's extra evilness?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 03:28 PM (+iODn)
Yes, yes it is. Astonishing but true.
I mean, come on . . . really? But yeah.
That's f'ing weird right there.
Posted by: filbert at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (NiXyF)
Posted by: Dickhead Newsreader at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (e1mEI)
Ok.
Damn lockdown. I shouldn't have laughed that hard at that.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)
Put yourself in Putin's shoes. Who would you rather have - the woman who sold you all of America's uranium and brought you a "reset" button, or a dude who is a total wild card and seems to have no interest in anyone's status quo?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (hYcqw)
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Also, the guy talked about American energy independence while the woman talked about hobbling the American energy sector.
For the leader of a petro gangster state like Russia, which seems more amenable to your own ends?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 11, 2020 03:20 PM (E5FCx)
And common sense. The more a thing is known, established, and understood, the more they feel a need to do the opposite.
It's really driven by a hatred for their weak and/or absent fathers. They have substituted society and conventional wisdom, which they see the father as a representative of, and are driven to tear it down and replace it with literally anything else, no matter how objectively awful.
Their entire hatred of Western civilization is just arrested development. In their minds, they are a six year old screaming "I hate you, daddy!".
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (J+mig)
I really don't think they're going to get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:28 PM (LvTSG)
I thought Trump already said Leftist states wouldn't be getting a bailout.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)
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He's said it and McConnell has said it.
I really don't think it'll happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)
#ResistanceDemocrat
Is that like "Confederate Democrat" before people figured out they
were really just about the slavery, but sounds classier than "Klukker".
Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (1g7ch)
Coup plotter called what?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (dkdmV)
First one to guess right gets an Unlimited Skull Platinum Membership.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (yokAj)
++++++++++++++
No, there isn't one and there won't be one.
Those on the entrenched right are more emboldened to go after it. Those on the entrenched left will never back down. Everyone else quit listening after the Mueller report dropped.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:29 PM (hku12)
Or to put it another way, the media is the hunter. Russia is the bear (of course).
Bear: Admit it, you're not REALLY here to hunt.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (hku12)
Not a single leak and they had the info all the time. Maybe they didn't read it.
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (Lt1JN)
NO STATE AID
NO BAILOUTS FOR SHITTY GOVERNORS
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 03:27 PM
So these libs give all their money to illegals and drug addict homeless, and then ask the rest of us who reject those policies to pay them back.
Posted by: LASue at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (Ed8Zd)
I read something about this the other day; can't remember where. The gist of it was that they had to remove Flynn and then Sessions so that all the Deep State Obama holdovers could plot/ enact the coup without Trump finding out about it. Once they got rid of Flynn/Sessions, they could work unencumbered.
Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (br0DX)
So all those high-tax shitholes who lost out on Trump's state-and-local-taxes reform will slow-walk recovery to get a fat handout from those rubes in all the other states, huh?
Posted by: Chris Hayes at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (u82oZ)
Yes, yes it is. Astonishing but true.
I mean, come on . . . really? But yeah.
That's f'ing weird right there.
Posted by: filbert at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (NiXyF)
Weird?
No.
Spot the fuck ON?
Yes.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (Zz0t1)
All the things they can do on a shoe string GDP* of 1.6 trillion dollars is staggering.
* For context: Itay's GDP is 2 trillion and NYS is 1.5 trillion.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (xXJfx)
Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (4a9Vv)
White House youtube:
https://tinyurl.com/yd6fe5et
4pm EDT (about half an hour from now)
PDT Press Briefing on Testing
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (kGLPx)
Posted by: Sphynx at May 11, 2020 03:33 PM (rXie1)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 03:33 PM (ejfeG)
Not a single leak and they had the info all the time. Maybe they didn't read it.
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (Lt1JN)
There was no bill to pass related to it.
After all, thems the rules.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 03:34 PM (Zz0t1)
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Heh. I guess all the bullshit about blue states supporting red states is all... bullshit.
Fuck off. Made beds, lying in them, all that happy shit.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 11, 2020 03:34 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: LASue
don't forget the trannys and the rainbow sidewalks and the bike lanes!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 11, 2020 03:34 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 11, 2020 03:34 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: LASue at May 11, 2020 03:34 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: ShainS at May 11, 2020 03:34 PM (Nx+1R)
Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at May 11, 2020 03:34 PM (4a9Vv)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 11, 2020 03:34 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM
Gavin as Dr. Evil.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 11, 2020 03:34 PM (l6b3d)
sorry Chris hayes did not compute !!!!
Posted by: saf at May 11, 2020 03:34 PM (5IHGB)
Posted by: McLurkerson at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (eakac)
It's a shame the entire state of IL is completely in thrall to the whims of the crony communists who run Chicago.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (HmZuC)
Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (aQfmB)
NO BAILOUTS FOR SHITTY GOVERNORS
The thought here in Illinois is we are gonna be locked down till the Feds bail out our pension syatem.
Posted by: Mallamutt, The State of Illinois says I am essential. at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM
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Good luck with that. Maybe with a President hillary that might have happened, but it ain't gonna happen with Trump.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: vmom 2020
1. He was incoming National Security Advisor for Trump, and knew all about the Intelligence Community's 8 years of illegal spying on political opponents at the behest of Obama;
2. He was going to conduct an audit of the CIA/NSA and find out where all their money was going.
3. On January 4, 2017, he was in a briefing by the IC of president-elect Trump and Flynn specifically asked the IC guys what was up with Steele's information and the FBI's use of that in 2016.
4. The very next day, January 5, 2017, Obama, Biden, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe and Yates all got together in the Oval Office and Obama mentioned going after Flynn on a bogus Logan Act charge for making a call to Ambassador Kislyak of Russia (which was perfectly in keeping with normal practice for an incoming NSA).
5. That same day, January 5, 2017, Steele wiped all of his computers of anything to do with his ridiculous "Dossier".
Barack Obama: Guilty of Framing a Three Star General to Cover Up the Illegal Spying Operation Conducted Against Trump.
Penalty: Obama is permanently banned from ever appearing in public, speaking in public, writing anything in public, or having any input in any way in American life, whether in person, via mail, video, or electronically.
I rest my case, Yer Honer.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (BM2fS)
It's a shame the entire state of IL is completely in thrall to the whims of the crony communists who run Chicago.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (HmZuC)
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It's a good thing the whole country is not in thrall to Illinois.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (XsgXy)
I never thought that something so simple would feel so glorious.
Would have been nice to have been sipping a gin and tonic during it, but you can't have everything.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (With freshly lowered ears) at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (5p7BC)
How strange is it that a House bill is the "mark of the beast" number AND it proposes all The People are required to acquire the Mark of the Beast?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (+iODn)
So all those high-tax shitholes who lost out on Trump's state-and-local-taxes reform will slow-walk recovery to get a fat handout from those rubes in all the other states, huh?
Posted by: Chris Hayes at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (oVJmc)
How much of the $ 1 Trillion aid package has already gone to California? My guess is.. a whole bunch.
Posted by: LASue at May 11, 2020 03:36 PM (Ed8Zd)
Ben Rhodes.
Willingly penetrated.
So their defense is hey, we got rolled by one guy. How do you expect us to withstand an intelligent state actor like Russia? By the way, China told us to say that.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 11, 2020 03:36 PM (yL25O)
90% is a kind of subculture, I guess.
Posted by: spindrift at May 11, 2020 03:36 PM (mjJ4C)
Governors their legislatures are jointly asking for a $1 trillion
aid package for states localities.
F
U
ALL
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 03:26 PM (cF8AT)
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Newsom needed some Republican cover for his "asking". Might one assume that Newsom thinks CA should get, like $900,000,000,000.00 out of the $1,000,000,000,000.00 requested? For the high-speed rail trains and postage for the mail-in ballots and six more months of funemployment?
Posted by: mrp at May 11, 2020 03:37 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 03:37 PM (+iODn)
Those on the entrenched right are more emboldened to go after it.
Those on the entrenched left will never back down. Everyone else quit
listening after the Mueller report dropped.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (hYcqw)
I didn't say their realization was real. But they are pushing this angle for a reason. "Oh yeah, there's some crazy conspiracy theories on the Left. They're not necessarily real conspiracies, we're just trying to make sense of the world, as conspiracy theorists do."
What is the point of pushing this now, of all times? There's an answer...
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:37 PM (yokAj)
169 >>>The thought here in Illinois is we are gonna be locked down till the Feds bail out our pension syatem.
It's a shame the entire state of IL is completely in thrall to the whims of the crony communists who run Chicago.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (HmZuC)
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It's a good thing the whole country is not in thrall to Illinois.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (LvTSG)
I know right!
Posted by: NYC at May 11, 2020 03:38 PM (dkdmV)
Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2020 03:38 PM (aQfmB)
Posted by: cornbred at May 11, 2020 03:38 PM (A751K)
Obama's Bloodiest Scandal Reemerges As Mexico Demands Apology For Operation Fast And Furious
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1) About damn time.
2) They're demanding an apology from Trump for something Obozo and the Chinless Wonder did?
Trump should apologize explaining that Obama was and is a criminal, Holder was and is a criminal, Hillary! was and is a criminal and they decided that Mexican lives was a small price to pay for destroying the second amendment and the constitution generally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 03:38 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 03:38 PM (iTXRQ)
They really should have skipped that number. Like elevators skip a button for a floor 13.
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 03:38 PM (kGLPx)
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 03:39 PM (sX1BW)
Russia, pro-Trump ads on Facebook:
$100,000
The entire media complex of the developed world, bashing Trump 24-hours-a-day and anointing Hillary as Queen and Goddess:
$2.4 trillion
Posted by: zombie
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Was it $100k on pro-Trump ads or $100k total, which included some pro-Hillary ads? I read on the all-knowing internet that they split their efforts.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 11, 2020 03:39 PM (SFAhl)
They really should have skipped that number. Like elevators skip a button for a floor 13.
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 03:38 PM (kGLPx)
They should have used it to name something after Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:39 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 11, 2020 03:32 PM (u82oZ)
Maybe indirectly.
Russia absolutely sent false information to the Fusion fools. They were trying to throw a monkey wrench into the works, and probably didn't realize how effective it was going to be.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (J+mig)
140 128
C'mon man, it's just a cigar!
Posted by: That dude with the ego and the id and the thing, you knoww at May 11, 2020 03:39 PM (z79tQ)
I never thought that something so simple would feel so glorious.
Would have been nice to have been sipping a gin and tonic during it, but you can't have everything.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (With freshly lowered ears) at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (5p7BC)
There's a reason I go every six weeks for cut and color like it is a tenet of my religion. One of the great simple joys in life.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 11, 2020 03:39 PM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 11, 2020 03:39 PM (Hcsoi)
Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at May 11, 2020 03:40 PM (4a9Vv)
Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 11, 2020 03:40 PM (t0JR5)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 03:40 PM (EWRow)
JFK assassinated by an avowed Commie? No, really it was right wing elements in the CIA and a right wing climate of hate in Dallas.
The avatar of your shitty ruling class flubs what should have been a slam dunk election against a reality television host? No, it was a decades long Russian conspiracy to install a Manchurian Candidate in the White House.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at May 11, 2020 03:40 PM (ssz2a)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 03:40 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Chebornick at May 11, 2020 03:40 PM (Vy7tf)
Wait, what? The Russians don't give a fuck and are laughing at the democrap stupidity?
Nevermind.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 11, 2020 03:40 PM (myjNJ)
They are trying to explain why they have been dead wrong, pushing a completely fake Russia hoax while actively taking leaks from the conspirators and actually hiring some of them as commentators, for the past 3 years.
Some of the less dense know what's coming and it is going to be the complete opposite of what they have been reporting. If they want to keep their phony baloney jobs they need an audience and people get tired of being lied to and made fools of.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 03:40 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2020 03:40 PM (aQfmB)
Who paid you to say that....PUTIN???
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: DaveA at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:37 PM (yokAj)
The answer is they are extracting themselves from the trap so that they can say later that those who continue to believe this are loons and not like us who never actually believed that but were merely asking questions.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (0QYMt)
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They need to be compensated for violating their citizen's civil rights.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (+y/Ru)
btw, notice how Tax Cuts are still out of the question, even for the Republicans
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 03:37 PM (+iODn)
They pushed the filing and paying deadline back to July 15 and gave people sweet rebates, so there is *that*.
Sadly, the low hanging fruit of tax cuts was already picked. Frankly, certain industries (entertainment, legal, and academic elites--especially private ones) deserve to be tax sodomized, so to speak.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (XsgXy)
I never thought that something so simple would feel so glorious.
Would have been nice to have been sipping a gin and tonic during it, but you can't have everything.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (With freshly lowered ears) at May 11, 2020 03:35 PM (5p7BC)
There's a reason I go every six weeks for cut and color like it is a tenet of my religion. One of the great simple joys in life.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 11, 2020 03:39 PM (GbPPJ)
...
There is also a reason I don't try to drink from an open container while the air around me is full of floating, falling hair.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (ejfeG)
color like it is a tenet of my religion. One of the great simple joys
in life.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 11, 2020 03:39 PM (GbPPJ)
If you wear a scoop neck, it might be a joy for her too.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: SMOD at May 11, 2020 03:42 PM (3aI0K)
We are the ones cheapening and disrespecting the victims of the virus.
But he's not trivializing or downplaying the deaths from 9/11 by equating the two?
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 11, 2020 03:42 PM (aO8Gd)
Now if somebody will shoot something down the particle exhaust of some fascist governors we are all set.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 03:42 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 03:42 PM (oVJmc)
would be much worse and the MSM would be telling us what a fantastic job
she's doing. If we had twice as many dead, the MSM would keep telling
us that that's much less than the models predicted.
Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at May 11, 2020 03:40 PM
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Kind of like the completely made up "jobs created or saved" crap from 2009-2012.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 03:42 PM (JUOKG)
What I try to do, to the best of my ability--I know that I fail all the
time--is to try to maintain the best habits of mind, if that makes
sense."
Nope, sorry, makes no sense at all.
Posted by: Bruce at May 11, 2020 03:14 PM (vd8XM)
Well, except for the "I fail all the time" part. That's coherent and pretty much spot on.
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at May 11, 2020 03:42 PM (YqED9)
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 11, 2020 03:43 PM (nFRLh)
No way that could be used nefariously by the party in power when it comes to voting and voting registrations and voting patterns and vote counting and and and
Posted by: TexasDan at May 11, 2020 03:43 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 03:43 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 03:44 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2020 03:44 PM (z0XD8)
Posted by: Sphynx at May 11, 2020 03:44 PM (rXie1)
the coronavirus-delayed season around the Fourth of July in ballparks
without fans. <<<<<<<<<
The last two words is their mistake. or their goal. Either or.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 03:44 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 03:44 PM (ejfeG)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 11, 2020 03:20 PM (E5FCx)
And common sense. The more a thing is known, established, and understood, the more they feel a need to do the opposite.
It's really driven by a hatred for their weak and/or absent fathers. They have substituted society and conventional wisdom, which they see the father as a representative of, and are driven to tear it down and replace it with literally anything else, no matter how objectively awful.
Their entire hatred of Western civilization is just arrested development. In their minds, they are a six year old screaming "I hate you, daddy!".
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (J+mig)
Bingo. This also explains stupid slogans like "Smash Patriarchy!" when anyone with any realistic viewpoint realizes that any substantial "patriarchy" disappeared decades ago.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 03:44 PM (XsgXy)
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 11, 2020 03:43 PM (nFRLh)
That's how they reproduce.
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 03:44 PM (kGLPx)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 03:44 PM (ejfeG)
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Well, they buy their water and power from other states, so...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:45 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Mech at May 11, 2020 03:45 PM (P7iDO)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 11, 2020 03:45 PM (E5FCx)
Posted by: Beltway Elite at May 11, 2020 03:45 PM (b6kHD)
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 03:43 PM (iTXRQ)
Combined with the fact that sometimes the bastards ARE out to get you.
Posted by: filbert at May 11, 2020 03:45 PM (NiXyF)
Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2020 03:45 PM (aQfmB)
2) They're demanding an apology from Trump for something Obozo and the Chinless Wonder did?
Trump should apologize explaining that Obama was and is a criminal, Holder was and is a criminal, Hillary! was and is a criminal and they decided that Mexican lives was a small price to pay for destroying the second amendment and the constitution generally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler
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Refer them to Obama for reparations.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 11, 2020 03:45 PM (SFAhl)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (0QYMt)
You're both half right, but only one of the halves.
The answer is because a giant fucking conspiracy at the highest levels of government has just been uncovered and is about to be shown to the world. Which they are going to deny, deny, deny.
Because, you know, conspiracy theories are just crazy talk because there's obviously no such thing.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:45 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: lizabth at May 11, 2020 03:46 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: DaveA at May 11, 2020 03:41 PM (FhXTo)
Fun and joke aside, they really need to write a speech for Melania where that phrase is worked in. The Left would go apeshit, and those of us on the right would chuckle.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 03:46 PM (XsgXy)
Posted by: National Divorce at May 11, 2020 03:46 PM (4Q1w7)
I believe it was Ted Cruz who asked Mark Zucerberg point blank at a Senate Hearing what dollar amount he could trace back to "Russian" add buys, Zuckerberg said 4K dollars.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 11, 2020 03:46 PM (xXJfx)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 11, 2020 03:46 PM (bAANX)
We are the ones cheapening and disrespecting the victims of the virus.
But he's not trivializing or downplaying the deaths from 9/11 by equating the two?
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 11, 2020 03:42 PM (aO8Gd)
This assumes that we ever stopped making fun of Tater.
Posted by: filbert at May 11, 2020 03:47 PM (NiXyF)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 03:47 PM (ejfeG)
Posted by: Mech at May 11, 2020 03:47 PM (P7iDO)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 03:47 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 11, 2020 03:47 PM (nFRLh)
wait it gets better
take a 2 and a 4 and you have 24
divided by 4, that's 6
four sixes in a row is 6666
doesn't that blow your mind?
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 03:47 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 11, 2020 03:47 PM (E5FCx)
Raheem Kassam
@RaheemKassam
Gov. Cuomo - in the surest sign he's on the take from the CCP - has now resorted to calling it the "European virus."
https://tinyurl.com/y9hewy5z
Posted by: redridinghood at May 11, 2020 03:48 PM (wiXsO)
Posted by: Pliney at May 11, 2020 03:48 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 11, 2020 03:48 PM (Oms9l)
Posted by: Fritz at May 11, 2020 03:48 PM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: Volkoff Industries at May 11, 2020 03:48 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: BourbonChicken with a Face Colander at May 11, 2020 03:48 PM (LxTcq)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
White House youtube:
https://tinyurl.com/yd6fe5et
4pm EDT
PDT Press Briefing on Testing
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 03:48 PM (kGLPx)
139 The "endemic" feature of the Left is an aversion to specificity.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 11, 2020 03:20 PM (E5FCx)
And common sense. The more a thing is known, established, and understood, the more they feel a need to do the opposite.
It's really driven by a hatred for their weak and/or absent fathers.
They have substituted society and conventional wisdom, which they see
the father as a representative of, and are driven to tear it down and
replace it with literally anything else, no matter how objectively
awful.
Their entire hatred of Western civilization is just arrested
development. In their minds, they are a six year old screaming "I hate
you, daddy!".
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (J+mig)
Bingo. This also explains stupid slogans like "Smash Patriarchy!"
when anyone with any realistic viewpoint realizes that any substantial
"patriarchy" disappeared decades ago.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 03:44 PM (XsgXy)
The left simple exists to subvert rational process and rule of law so that their will may be enforced at a whimsical time of their choosing. Kavanaugh was the roar of 10,000 me too jet engines in an effort to shut down the conformation process and get what they want. Biden metoo? Never heard of it. Raw power that is all. Rules are for chumps and to choke their enemies.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (dkdmV)
Posted by: lizabth at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: Mech at May 11, 2020 03:45 PM (P7iDO)
A year ago, if somebody had said to me "9/11 was an inside job," I would have laughed at them.
Now my response is, "ok, I'm listening. Just don't start with Bush and big oil, because I'm not listening anymore."
Instead, if someone has a coherent argument that CIA and FBI and State and DoD had a hand in at the very least NOT preventing the attack... I'd buy it.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Fritz at May 11, 2020 03:48 PM (2Mnv1)
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Wait a minute...she's not very butch...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 11, 2020 03:30 PM (GbPPJ)
Unfortunately, we know why. Because the FNM requires republicans to have proof when making accusations. Otherwise, if they cover it at all, it would be followed by the "WITHOUT EVIDENCE!!! notation.
Posted by: Turn Two at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (rKsgt)
Newsom needed some Republican cover for his "asking".
Peter King of NY wants the same for his state.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Mech at May 11, 2020 03:47 PM (P7iDO)
You know, within every Big Lie there IS that grain of truth that makes it work. Bush the Younger was out of touch on how the country was going to hell in a handbasket at home, while he focused upon "nation building" abroad. He and his ilk *really* did not understand the impact of excessive immigration, excessive outsourcing, and excessive interventions abroad.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (XsgXy)
Joel Osteen, who is a false prophet and a fraudster, likes to come up with cutesy phrases for why things are or have happened. Osteen's explanation for the chinese virus is "God is updating his software" and we going through a "reboot."
People send this asshoe literal bags full of money, on the daily.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (+iODn)
Posted by: DaveA at May 11, 2020 03:50 PM (FhXTo)
Yesss ... the Mole People ... those bastards!
*shifty-eyestalks*
Posted by: Crab People at May 11, 2020 03:50 PM (E5FCx)
Instead, if someone has a coherent argument that CIA and FBI and State and DoD had a hand in at the very least NOT preventing the attack... I'd buy it.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (hku12)
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I don't think that about 9/11.
But I'm suddenly very open to the idea that the CIA killed JFK.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:50 PM (LvTSG)
who they totally approved of until the people overthrew the commies. now Russia is bad. don't think we're not keeping score too, Chris.
Posted by: x at May 11, 2020 03:50 PM (nFwvY)
@markknoller
Monday at the WH:
Pres Trump holds Rose Garden event at 4pm/ET to deliver remarks on Coronavirus testing and take press questions.
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (kGLPx)
Now if somebody will shoot something down the particle exhaust of some fascist governors we are all set.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 03:42 PM (r+sAi)
PA doesn't surprise me. i have traveled a fair bit, and have never seen more pro Trump areas than in certain parts of Central PA. I realize there are many rural areas in many sates and they are pissed at the cities. It is not only a PA thing. But Carville didn't call the place Kentucky with Philly and Pittsburgh on the edges (I get that quote was butchered as to be not even a quote) for nothing.
But I have seen stuff in Central PA that made me smile. These people don't only put up Trump signs, they put up Trump signs that are made to last ten years.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (aQfmB)
who they totally approved of until the people overthrew the commies. now Russia is bad. don't think we're not keeping score too, Chris.
Posted by: x at May 11, 2020 03:50 PM (nFwvY)
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So, it's really Hillary and Obama's fault for emboldening Putin with the reset.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Ellen D. at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Oliver Stone at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (ejfeG)
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (4a9Vv)
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (nFRLh)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 03:52 PM (EWRow)
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 03:52 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: BourbonChicken with a Face Colander at May 11, 2020 03:52 PM (LxTcq)
When these liars and thieves say we "won't peak until July," they are implying that the "1st Wave" won't subside until September, which is very near when the "2nd Wave" is due to commence in October.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 03:52 PM (+iODn)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (KZzsI)
Joel Osteen, who is a false prophet and a fraudster, likes to come up with cutesy phrases for why things are or have happened. Osteen's explanation for the chinese virus is "God is updating his software" and we going through a "reboot."
People send this asshole literal bags full of money, on the daily.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (+iODn)
In fairness to Osteen, his "feel good because the Lord really does love you" Christianity IS something for the Godless Left when they start realizing something is missing in their empty lives, whereas fire-and-brimstone Xtianity would just turn said Leftists off further.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (XsgXy)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May
I thought they killed Marilyn Monroe? Both?
Posted by: Turn Two at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (rKsgt)
Beyond the baby killing and selling for parts (always feel the need to add that), the mere fact that not a single fucking prominent Democrat is out saying he/she can't wait until we can recover and start going out again and having fun again and enjoying life again and working again and producing again and living again and being with friends again and being America again... is all the tell you need.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (yokAj)
Instead, if someone has a coherent argument that CIA and FBI and State and DoD had a hand in at the very least NOT preventing the attack... I'd buy it.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:49 PM (hku12)
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I don't think that about 9/11.
But I'm suddenly very open to the idea that the CIA killed JFK.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:50 PM (LvTSG)
At the very least, CIA was toying with LH Oswald, like they were a cat with a mouse.
Why?
I'm still going with my favorite "conspiracy" here. Kennedy was accidentally shot by the Secret Service agent in the car behind his, and the Deep State then went into total cover-up mode. Including having Oswald shot, and then killing off various witnesses to this that or the other.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Pliney at May 11, 2020 03:48 PM (nzKWW)
This.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: brak at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (cG+eD)
Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2020 03:54 PM (aQfmB)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 03:54 PM (ejfeG)
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 11, 2020 03:54 PM (nFRLh)
Well that is an excuse. But we all know the real reason: they hoped this would remove Trump.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 11, 2020 03:54 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (hku12)
Zombie William of Ockham is pouring himself a stiff drink right now.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2020 03:54 PM (YqDXo)
Hey, where does Putin get milk? From Ma's cow. Ha.
Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at May 11, 2020 03:54 PM (4a9Vv)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 03:54 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 03:55 PM (EWRow)
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (nFRLh)
the horror!
but seriously, that is quite a rebuke. I can see why some enjoy him. Don't forget some can't get out of bed, that is a real thing, they don't have much of a choice.
I personally think very little of the prosperity Gospel.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 03:55 PM (hHxp2)
I think there's something in between Osteen's "Christianity" and the Fundamentalist good ol' Pentecostal Christianity. Perhaps something that doesn't rely on theatrics, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 03:55 PM (+iODn)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 03:54 PM (ejfeG)
Add in California. I believe also NY, NY Morons correct me if that's wrong.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2020 03:55 PM (YqDXo)
there is one right near me in SE PA that is VERY permanent and displayed prominently, so this is not just in "pennsyltucky" areas
I think it's made of metal or wood - it's huge
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 03:55 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:50 PM (LvTSG)
Where WAS that Brennan guy doing back in '63? OK, he was still a kid, but what were his mentors doing back then?
I WOULD believe the C.I.A. did it if you added a McCarthyite twist. JFK was arguably the LAST Democrat to take Communism seriously.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 03:56 PM (XsgXy)
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (iTXRQ)
You're missing out, it's hot.
Posted by: ghost of kari at May 11, 2020 03:56 PM (8IQhD)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 03:56 PM (+y/Ru)
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Henry Waxman?!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 03:54 PM (+y/Ru)
No. He's one of the Bat People.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2020 03:56 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 11, 2020 03:56 PM (dUJdY)
Because that's not racist.
Why not call it "the Italian virus", paisano?
After all, Italy is where the virus really got started in Europe.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 11, 2020 03:56 PM (I2/tG)
can I have an AMEN and a 97 Rolla?
Posted by: saf at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (5IHGB)
Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (aQfmB)
it's not THAT full of liberals
I think there's just so much vote fraud there
it's out of control
areas that I know have some republican voters nevertheless come out 100+ percent Dem??! no one even makes a mistake voting?!!? come on
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (j9HX3)
The man was horrible at his job. More deaths in New York than most of the rest of the country combined, deliberately seeding the most vulnerable places with victims, and he's being held up as some kind of leader??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (5jaxN)
smile. These people don't only put up Trump signs, they put up Trump
signs that are made to last ten years.
there is one right near me in SE PA that is VERY permanent and
displayed prominently, so this is not just in "pennsyltucky" areas
I think it's made of metal or wood - it's huge
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 03:55 PM (j9HX3)
it is my favorite Northern state.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (ejfeG)
That TRACE act in the sidebar is a bit too on the nose with that
numbering. I thought it was a joke.
---
"666" is supposed to be the number of a man.
We're apparently living in the JJ Abrams remake of Revelation.
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (hku12)
Zombie William of Ockham is pouring himself a stiff drink right now.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 11, 2020 03:54 PM (YqDXo)
Carcano rifles with 6.5mm rounds don't blow off the top front of heads like that. Certainly not from above.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 11, 2020 03:58 PM (nRk/c)
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 03:58 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 03:58 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: kallisto at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (aQfmB)
But she wouldn't have any billboards to promote said wedding at least.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 03:58 PM (XsgXy)
Take away the county that Portland is in, and Trump got a majority of the votes in Oregon.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 11, 2020 03:58 PM (I2/tG)
Going to be a tad difficult when the indictments start hitting.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (ZLI7S)
I'm telling you, in PA it's VOTE FRAUD
they USE the ghettoes as "reservoirs" of fraud - no one would dare question vote counts from West Philly
but the vote counts are FAKE
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (j9HX3)
Next up--President
realDonaldTrump
will deliver remarks and hold a press briefing on testing.
http://45.wh.gov/RtVRmD
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (kGLPx)
I think if you looked at actual non-padded, full numbers the nursing homes would be ground zero for most of the deaths in the country.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (KZzsI)
Obama's Bloodiest Scandal Reemerges As Mexico Demands Apology For Operation Fast And Furious
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1) About damn time.
2) They're demanding an apology from Trump for something Obozo and the Chinless Wonder did?
Trump should apologize explaining that Obama was and is a criminal, Holder was and is a criminal, Hillary! was and is a criminal and they decided that Mexican lives was a small price to pay for destroying the second amendment and the constitution generally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 03:38 PM (+y/Ru)
My official response would be "I will not apologize for the actions of an administration other than my own, especially one whose policies I agreed with so pointedly. Yet, I join you in your assertion that you are due an apology, and call upon Mr. Obama, his cabinet, advisors, and other senior administration officials to publicly apologize for what harms they inflicted on your nation, in their efforts to curtail Liberty in mine."
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (J+mig)
Arthur Spooner is mort?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (+iODn)
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 04:00 PM (iTXRQ)
Most all the rest are grain elevator towns.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 11, 2020 04:00 PM (+fPHo)
"Yeah, we'll make sure that doesn't happen"
--DC Grand Juries
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 11, 2020 04:00 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 04:00 PM (J+mig)
Going to be a tad difficult when the indictments start hitting.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (ZLI7S)
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I believe you mean those politically motivated indictments.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 04:00 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 11, 2020 04:01 PM (Hcsoi)
Going to be a tad difficult when the indictments start hitting.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (ZLI7S)
If and when, they will say it is political and demand investigations, or just release another virus. They will never stop their bs.
Please don't take that to mean I give a shit. I'm just explaining their newfound love for knocking down "conspiracy theorists", even on their own side.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 04:01 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (ZLI7S)
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I believe you mean those politically motivated indictments.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
We'll have to tap the National Strategic Outrage Reserve!
Posted by: Lefty Thought Leaders at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (QzkSJ)
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I have a bigger dick too!
Posted by: Ellen D. at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (vg8iE)
But you ARE both bitches.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: GOP at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (ejfeG)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 04:00 PM (LvTSG)
Sheesh, get your own material, Madison.
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: saf at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (5IHGB)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 11, 2020 04:01 PM (Hcsoi)
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I'd love a law that punished the workers of the individual precincts for every vote over the total registered voters. $100 per vote, and 1 day in jail for the precinct manager.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (LvTSG)
My official response would be "I will not apologize for the actions of an administration other than my own, especially one whose policies I agreed with so pointedly. Yet, I join you in your assertion that you are due an apology, and call upon Mr. Obama, his cabinet, advisors, and other senior administration officials to publicly apologize for what harms they inflicted on your nation, in their efforts to curtail Liberty in mine."
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est
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Throw in a handy hint on levying the hefty post-White House payouts the Obamas have received.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (SFAhl)
It might be a stretch to call Joel Osteen a Christian. In fact, he might not even consider himself a Christian.
If you listen to him, he hardly ever mention "Jesus" or "Christ." It's always "the Lord" and "God," and he might using those titles as "lord" and "god," as in some great generic spirit in the sky.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (+iODn)
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 03:51 PM (iTXRQ)
You're missing out, it's hot.
Posted by: ghost of kari at May 11, 2020 03:56 PM (8IQhD)
It is hawt, in a Slavic way. I really do wish they would give her a speech about the national parks or wildlife refuges and work in that "moose and squirrel" phrase.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (XsgXy)
Trump should tweet them to forward their request to Obama and tag TFG
Posted by: McCool at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (KvRqW)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 04:03 PM (ifmtJ)
Trump should tweet them to forward their request to Obama and tag TFG
Posted by: McCool at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (KvRqW)
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Gotta include Eric Holder.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 04:03 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 04:03 PM (ifmtJ)
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It's Russia's fault, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 04:03 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May
You*re right. I was giving the republicans too much credit.
Posted by: Turn Two at May 11, 2020 04:03 PM (rKsgt)
Plus there was that time he tried to pick up a Bible and his hands burst into flames
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 11, 2020 04:03 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Ktgreat at May 11, 2020 04:03 PM (AD3JT)
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 04:04 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 11, 2020 04:04 PM (Xlhf2)
I like that. Makes the regular season mean something unlike the nba where you know 14 of the 16 playoff teams before the season begins.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 04:04 PM (ejfeG)
Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Fast and Furious. See how Barry likes being a defendant against a prosecutor with an unlimited budget.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 11, 2020 04:05 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: MJ at May 11, 2020 04:05 PM (gAMkn)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 04:05 PM (x4XFu)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (SFAhl)
I like this idea.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 04:05 PM (J+mig)
My official response would be "I will not
apologize for the actions of an administration other than my own,
especially one whose policies I agreed with so pointedly. Yet, I join
you in your assertion that you are due an apology, and call upon Mr.
Obama, his cabinet, advisors, and other senior administration officials
to publicly apologize for what harms they inflicted on your nation, in
their efforts to curtail Liberty in mine."
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (J+mig)
I like that but I can definitely see Trump apologizing on behalf of America for what Obama did.
"It's terrible what they did and I'm very sad. I am sorry for it. I'm sorry they were so corrupt. Obama should be the one apologizing but I can say that I'm sorry on behalf of America that his administration did that. It was a horrible thing. Many lives lost."
Posted by: ... at May 11, 2020 04:05 PM (yokAj)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 11, 2020 04:05 PM (KZzsI)
Mainly because the charges were politically based and the coup was politically based and Leftists always claim their enemy is doing what the Leftists did.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 04:05 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 11, 2020 04:05 PM (Xlhf2)
There really are not red or blue states. There are red counties and blue cities in every state. What makes them a red or blue state is the ratio between counties and cities. Dallas is as left as San Francisco and some northern Cali counties are as conservative as any county in Texas.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (ejfeG)
You could transplant Fresno County from California to Texas and only real difference you'd notice is the accents. Although Fresno itself is fairly bluish purple.
On the bright side, Fresno County Sheriff Mims is a rabidly pro-2A chick.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 11, 2020 04:05 PM (EGyGV)
Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Fast and Furious. See how Barry likes being a defendant against a prosecutor with an unlimited budget.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 11, 2020 04:05 PM (I2/tG)
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Somehow, the special prosecutor will end up investigating Trump's brag about shooting someone on 5th Avenue. The investigation will drag on for two years and leak like a sieve. It will end with nothing, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 04:06 PM (LvTSG)
Wow, I have to disagree, I guess. Lots of references to Jesus, not to mention he always concludes by asking you to "make Jesus the lord of your life."
Posted by: artemis at May 11, 2020 04:06 PM (AwPyG)
We need Ceaucescu style proceedings...
Posted by: McCool at May 11, 2020 04:06 PM (KvRqW)
It might be a stretch to call Joel Osteen a Christian. In fact, he might not even consider himself a Christian.
If you listen to him, he hardly ever mention "Jesus" or "Christ." It's always "the Lord" and "God," and he might using those titles as "lord" and "god," as in some great generic spirit in the sky.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 04:02 PM (+iODn)
Maybe he was raised on that Norman Greenbaum song. Oh wait, that one does explicitly mention Jesus.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 04:06 PM (XsgXy)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (XsgXy)
Agreed.
When I've been down in the past, listening to Osteen's messages have been helpful to me on occasion. He's a good speaker, with a very seeker-friendly demeanor. I've known several people who've gotten a lot out of his messages as well.
That being said, he'd never be my pastor. He wants to be so friendly to the non-Christian he'll gladly water down the Word to be accepted. There's a place in the Kingdom for baby Christians who want that feel-good message to get through the door, but anybody who's gone through a rough patch in their 'walk' will need to dig into the Word more than Osteen would allow.
I'm not sure how popular a fire-and-brimstone message would be on major broadcast TV. I doubt that it what the masses want, or else we would have seen a lot more of them over the years.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2020 04:06 PM (iuFgi)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
waay too easy
Posted by: Rudy Washington Carver at May 11, 2020 04:06 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (5jaxN)
Oswald was a failure. he failed at everything. He became a commie and went to the Soviet Union and failed there. He returned and failed again here. His failure so ate him up that By Lenin's Pointy Beard he was going to show them he wasn't a failure! He was going to do something! Something big! He was, he was, he was going to screw the head cheerleader - no, wait - he was going to kill the handsome, young, rich, suave president of the USA! He would shoot JFK who was everything he wasn't! That would show them! He'd show them all!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 11, 2020 04:06 PM (0QYMt)
Oswald was a failure. he failed at everything. He became a commie and went to the Soviet Union and failed there. He returned and failed again here. His failure so ate him up that By Lenin's Pointy Beard he was going to show them he wasn't a failure! He was going to do something! Something big! He was, he was, he was going to screw the head cheerleader - no, wait - he was going to kill the handsome, young, rich, suave president of the USA! He would shoot JFK who was everything he wasn't! That would show them! He'd show them all!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 11, 2020 04:06 PM (0QYMt)
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I saw that Quantum Leap episode.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 04:07 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: raimondo at May 11, 2020 04:07 PM (Hf0OM)
I'm telling you, in PA it's VOTE FRAUD
they USE the ghettoes as "reservoirs" of fraud - no one would dare question vote counts from West Philly
but the vote counts are FAKE
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 03:59 PM (j9HX3)
i believe you, it is not even debatable. And I do think PA is different because I have met the people but really seen the signage, some of it I should have photographed.
Anyway, I get how we all feel that way. Hell MD is just a couple of counties from being deep blue. CA even would likely be Repub if you got rid of LA and SF. But there is a difference. I don't get how PA backed down after 2016.
My only short term remedy is an army of lawyers on our side like has never been seen before. If someone has a better idea, let me know. Not just me, but the team.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 04:07 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: MrObvious at May 11, 2020 04:08 PM (5prN7)
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 04:08 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (hku12)
I've seen a number of independent testing on whether the shots Oswald took and the damage done were possible. All that I've seen seem to think so. Admittedly the Jack Ruby shooting and connections are just too much of a coincidence and out of place for me to say nothing nefarious could have happened.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 04:08 PM (EWRow)
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 04:08 PM (hHxp2)
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What does Dario Argento have to do with this?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 04:08 PM (LvTSG)
Russia is having a significant problem with CCP virus. What's Russian for China is asshoe!
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 04:10 PM (ZLI7S)
The Media: Trump is Putin's puppet.
Also The Media (completely lacking in self-awareness): We are doing the bidding of Russia to blame Russia, but only because Russia made us.
Fucking clowns, man.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 11, 2020 04:10 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: Ugh at May 11, 2020 04:10 PM (4Q1w7)
-place showed as open online
-Got some gas (no one wearing masks)
-The Glorious leader(Beshear) had proclaimed that on this day, everyone in public had to wear a mask
-Got a fish sandwich at McDonalds (they were wearing masks, but none of the people going through drive thru were)
-barber shop. Lights on. Doors locked. I am wondering if they are only open by appointment. Looks like a nice place- even had a motorized barber poll which piques my nostalgic glands. Will give them a call tomorrow and see if they take appointments.
-got some e-liquid. Vape shop has been open during this whole darn thing. No mask on the girl running the place or her guest on the couch.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 11, 2020 04:10 PM (A5zUN)
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Depends on the body count in Moscow, I think.
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 04:10 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 04:11 PM (kGLPx)
I felt like, after the election, a lot of us were ready to "come out" and celebrate here, but we literally never got the chance!
it was just from moment one, attacks on Trump, attacks on Trump supporters.
also, we are stupid about electing "moderate-seeming" Dems as Governors here. Like Fast Eddie. Who by the way I don't think would do what Wolf is doing to us. Ed is NOT a moron, and he has half a brain.
the worst recent governor we had (other than dimwit Wolf) was Ridge tho. so he kind of soured us on R governors. he was AWFUL, total RINO
we get hurt by the PLETHORA of godawful RINOs we have - our supposedly R leg is very much RINO and corrupt as the day is long. that hurts people's perceptions here.
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 04:11 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 04:11 PM (hHxp2)
"F'in A!"
--Manson, sticking a fork in pregnant Sharon tate
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 11, 2020 04:11 PM (KZzsI)
He needs to sit his wife down and tell her to at least make an effort to fake being Christian. What a bitch.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 04:11 PM (EWRow)
Posted by: raimondo at May 11, 2020 04:07 PM (Hf0OM)
By gum, raimondo is actually making sense. Well if Glenn Greenwald can do it, so can raimondo.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 04:12 PM (XsgXy)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 04:10
They also have to be having a problem with the drop in oil prices. This whole thing has to of been a blow to them.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 11, 2020 04:12 PM (l6b3d)
Posted by: raimondo at May 11, 2020 04:12 PM (Hf0OM)
complain and you'll get tossed, I mean "fall", out of a window
Posted by: brak at May 11, 2020 04:12 PM (cG+eD)
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 04:11 PM (hHxp2)
Latin Mass.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 11, 2020 04:13 PM (A5zUN)
Carcano rifles with 6.5mm rounds don't blow off the top front of heads like that. Certainly not from above.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (hku12)
I've seen a number of independent testing on whether the shots
Oswald took and the damage done were possible. All that I've seen seem
to think so. Admittedly the Jack Ruby shooting and connections are just
too much of a coincidence and out of place for me to say nothing
nefarious could have happened.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 04:08 PM (EWRow)
Shoot a watermelon with any high power rifle, and you will instantly see how a portion of a skull can come apart, especially given the various nonhomogenous structures and contents of the skull. It is a non-starter.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 11, 2020 04:13 PM (KnJdm)
I really wish the president would stop indulging this "testing" bullshit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 04:13 PM (AIgP/)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 04:13 PM (EWRow)
what I really can't abide is the prosperity Gospel. I want to know if I am in church or at an Amway meeting.
Posted by: Quint
Indeed. Jesus is not an ATM machine.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 04:14 PM (w27jK)
He's said it and McConnell has said it.
I really don't think it'll happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 03:31 PM (LvTSG)
The reason I agree with you is that in DC, it's usually a lot easier to stop something than it is to do something.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 04:14 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 11, 2020 04:15 PM (w27jK)
You're illiterate.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 04:13 PM (EWRow)
Surprisingly, here he isn't. I will give credit where credit is due, like Churchill's statement about what to do if Hitler invaded Hell.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 04:15 PM (XsgXy)
so many war stories. Ridge was awful and the type of Repbub I can't stand. There is no reason to go into Murtha as that is over with. I think highly of that state, I hope they get it right. We need them and if we don't have them, it is going to be a hard slog. I understand where the issue lies. Sure it has to be an absurd turnout, and also lawyers who are not meek in "Philly.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 04:15 PM (hHxp2)
back....and to the left...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 04:15 PM (ifmtJ)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 11, 2020 04:13 PM (A5zUN)
you go too far sir. But as a Protestant, I do respect a lot of those ideas. We can learn from each other, no doubt there. I once said my favorite book was James. It is back and forth but for sure we can learn from each other.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 04:17 PM (hHxp2)
By the way, my NEW favorite conspiracy theory is that someone is going to do ballistics tests on Peter Strozk's service weapon, and the bullets are going to match those found in Seth Rich's back.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 04:18 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (hku12)
++++++++++++
That's pretty good.
Best conspiracy theory ever: the international financier class wanted to establish the Federal Reserve System, but got opposition from major US industrialists, namely JJ Astor and Guggenheim.
So they sank the Titanic to kill them off and clear the road.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 04:18 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 04:18 PM (trdmm)
+++++++++++
No way. Even if the FBI had him whacked (and why would they? Clinton or the DNC, sure - but why the FBI?), you can be sure important people like Strozk don't do their own wet work.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 04:19 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 11, 2020 03:53 PM (hku12)
I like this one. I wonder how many conspiracies are more like "Burn After Reading" rather than "The Manchurian Candidate"
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 04:20 PM (XsgXy)
The lies peddled DAILY on CNN and MSNBC does more to undermine the integrity of the press and degrade the political landscape in this country than all the collective works of Russia over the last 30 years.
The idea that Russia is to blame for ANYTHING in the political landscape of the United States is buffoonery.
Please keep in mind, that we are no longer talking about the imperialist USSR. That ended 30 years ago. Gone, kaput, over. Russia works now, exclusively, in their own best interests that, primarily occur in their own geopolitical orbit.
Posted by: deadrody at May 11, 2020 04:25 PM (V9901)
Flynn set them up...
It seems like an improbable reach but given the bizarre nature of these events can anything be ruled out of bounds with any certainty?
Adm. Mike Rogers, the head of the NSA, warned Trump about the Trump Tower wiretaps. What else did he say to Trump, and to Flynn? The NSA listens to everything, or so I am told. What if...but, no...how bizarre, how bizarre.
Posted by: Ries Gorthanes at May 11, 2020 04:26 PM (Ium52)
Posted by: raimondo at May 11, 2020 04:28 PM (Hf0OM)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 04:08 PM (EWRow)
My theory is the simplest explanation:
Some political rival or Cold War enemy hired or convinced Oswald to kill JFK.
They then employed a second assassin in the form of Jack Ruby, a less than credible character who wouldn't be believed even if he did spill the beans, to kill the first. They would then be protected - either by a successful coverup or plausible deniability.
The coverup was successful enough that we may never know who the employer was.
I think it might have been LBJ. He was enough of a rat bastard to at least consider it.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 04:31 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: The Islands of Elba and St. Helena at May 11, 2020 04:32 PM (w9Wax)
The coverup was successful enough that we may never know who the employer was.
I think it might have been LBJ. He was enough of a rat bastard to at least consider it.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 04:31 PM (J+mig)
Assuming the Warren Commission story is honest - that the terminally ill Jack Ruby wanted to "go out a hero" and thus shot Oswald, I have fancied that ending myself.
Imagine some clearly guilty scum like OJ Simpson walking free from the courthouse, and someone terminally ill coming up and plugging him.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 11, 2020 04:34 PM (XsgXy)
Best conspiracy theory ever: the international financier class wanted to establish the Federal Reserve System, but got opposition from major US industrialists, namely JJ Astor and Guggenheim.
So they sank the Titanic to kill them off and clear the road.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Perfect. The "smoking gun" melted.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 11, 2020 04:35 PM (SFAhl)
Posted by: Capt. Baldrick Al Dogsbody at May 11, 2020 04:37 PM (7s3Gx)
Posted by: vivi at May 11, 2020 04:44 PM (11H2y)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 11, 2020 05:03 PM (AFSld)
WTF about Natacha McElhone !?
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 11, 2020 05:20 PM (M+Lyo)
The huge CUOMO KILLED MY MOTHER banner in NYC is getting some media attention.
The man was horrible at his job. More deaths in New York than most
of the rest of the country combined, deliberately seeding the most
vulnerable places with victims, and he's being held up as some kind of
leader??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 11, 2020 03:57 PM (KZzsI)
I'm a bit out there on this point, maybe, but I think Cuomo should be prosecuted for manslaughter at least, and possibly in fed court for depriving and conspiracy to deprive civil rights.
There's one thing that was shown in the earliest data on covid and that hasn't changed significantly since, that people 60 and up are disproportionally prone to die from the disease, and to a high degree. That's not based on modeling, that's based on counting actual dead people. There's no excuse for not knowing it and I don't believe any politician who says they don't.
Given that, the decisions of Cuomo to refuse transfer of older covid patients to hospitals (despite plenty of room) and to require they be sent back to nursing homes (which have no resources to deal with them and where their disease will be transmitted to other residents) can only be construed as malevolent.
In short, I think the guy's a mass-murder.
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