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Project Veritas: CBS "News" Faked Footage of Cars Lining Up at a Covid Testing Site To Make the Lines Appear Much Longer Than They Actually Were
[Mamaroneck, N.Y.—May 6, 2020] A CBS News crew pulled medical professionals off the floor at the Cherry Medical Center in Grand Rapids, Michigan, to line up in their vehicles so a CBS film crew would have a long line for their COVID-19 coverage. ... 'Apparently, the news crew wanted more people in the line,' said a Cherry Health Supervisor. "We pretended. There were a couple of real patients, which made it worse," Said Another Registered Nurse.In other words, CBS delayed the treatment of real patients so they could get their shot of fake patients waiting in long lines.
... "The insider told us that medical personnel were taken away from treating patients and making the line longer for actual patients wait for the COVID-19 test," he said.CBS "News" calls the report "100% false." You know, like Joe Biden says. Hidden video camera of the nurses admitting CBS asked them to fake a line at the link.
Comments
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CBS would never fake things.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 06, 2020 11:59 AM (PVw3N)
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The others have been summoned.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 06, 2020 11:59 AM (PVw3N)
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not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:00 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:00 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 06, 2020 12:00 PM (EQRLd)
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Trump needs to tweet on this.
Posted by: Ha at May 06, 2020 12:01 PM (4Q1w7)
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This commentary is slanted.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:01 PM (8erNz)
8
No matter how cynical I get, it is never quite enough. P
Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at May 06, 2020 12:01 PM (pp7ze)
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My question here: why did the medical staff agree to helping them fake it? I would have flatly refused to participate in the sham.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:01 PM (hYcqw)
10
Well, it was.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:01 PM (8erNz)
11
CBS: straight down the middle
Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2020 12:01 PM (X/Pw5)
Posted by: Tami at May 06, 2020 12:01 PM (cF8AT)
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Why did the hospital comply? There's the disturbing angle. We all knew CBS were a bunch of panicmongering fuckin liars.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 06, 2020 12:02 PM (EQRLd)
14
Talk about yelling fire in a crowded theater.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 06, 2020 12:02 PM (oVJmc)
15
>>Trump needs to tweet on this.
He has.
@realDonaldTrump
The Fake News has reached an all time high!
He has.
@realDonaldTrump
The Fake News has reached an all time high!
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)
16
CNN's word as a Biden.
Posted by: Someguy at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (Zm+LZ)
17
Yay!. More flyovers for the hero's.
Posted by: Ripley at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (MxEKc)
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9 My question here: why did the medical staff agree to helping them fake it? I would have flatly refused to participate in the sham.
I'm sure 'all in a good cause' was a driving factor.
I'm sure 'all in a good cause' was a driving factor.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (oVJmc)
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The press has NEVER been the good guys. They've always been cheap hustling whores.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (ifmtJ)
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6 Trump needs to tweet on this.
Posted by: Ha at May 06, 2020 12:01 PM
Maybe that's what this is about....
@realDonaldTrump 45 minutes ago
The Fake News has reached an all time high!
Posted by: Ha at May 06, 2020 12:01 PM
Maybe that's what this is about....
@realDonaldTrump 45 minutes ago
The Fake News has reached an all time high!
Posted by: Tami at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (cF8AT)
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13 Why did the hospital comply? There's the disturbing angle. We all knew CBS were a bunch of panicmongering fuckin liars.
Exactly that. Do not ever do what the press wants you to, no matter who they are.
Exactly that. Do not ever do what the press wants you to, no matter who they are.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: pep at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (T6t7i)
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It's lockdown 4EVAH folks. The MSM is in on it, and all the politicians really like the power.
Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 06, 2020 12:04 PM (ZCiJZ)
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Has anyone reached out to Dan Rather for comment?
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 06, 2020 12:04 PM (puu6v)
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I'm sure 'all in a good cause' was a driving factor.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (oVJmc)
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Screw them. If I can't trust them to not *actively* participate in a sham, why should I trust them with my health or my records?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (oVJmc)
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Screw them. If I can't trust them to not *actively* participate in a sham, why should I trust them with my health or my records?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:04 PM (hYcqw)
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@9
The hospital staff complied because this thing is a scam at every level of analysis.
Some of the prime operators of the scam are medical providers, who do you think is goosing the numbers?
The hospital staff complied because this thing is a scam at every level of analysis.
Some of the prime operators of the scam are medical providers, who do you think is goosing the numbers?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 06, 2020 12:04 PM (NkeJ4)
Posted by: Diogenes at May 06, 2020 12:04 PM (axyOa)
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Prayers up for all that are in nood!
Posted by: stumck at May 06, 2020 12:05 PM (w9Wax)
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All three networks are crap. CBS = Communist Broadcasting System. They should change rtheir name to LIARS.
Posted by: Vic at May 06, 2020 12:05 PM (mpXpK)
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In a sane world, the state licensing board for these medical "professionals" would fine and suspend them.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 06, 2020 12:05 PM (H5knJ)
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O'Keefe will nevah get a Pulitzer pulling fake stunts like this.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (Z4rgH)
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All three networks are crap. CBS = Communist Broadcasting System. They should change rtheir name to LIARS.
Posted by: Vic at May 06, 2020 12:05 PM (mpXpK)
+++++++++++++
That would mean they're honest. To be on message and consistent, they should their name to "Honest Truth Tellers."
Posted by: Vic at May 06, 2020 12:05 PM (mpXpK)
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That would mean they're honest. To be on message and consistent, they should their name to "Honest Truth Tellers."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (hYcqw)
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Amateurs. Real news divisions try to blow up pick up trucks.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Dan Rather at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (Geoni)
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Operating in the public interest, convenience and necessity? Something?
If it were possible, CBS should be forcibly "locked down."
Just like the rest of us. And permanently.
Operating in the public interest, convenience and necessity? Something?
If it were possible, CBS should be forcibly "locked down."
Just like the rest of us. And permanently.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (s2VJv)
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Well, I won't know what to think until the NYT weighs in.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (+y/Ru)
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Wu-Brew related: I have been giving considerable thought as to what an appropriate response to my church re-opening, if same is contingent upon mandatory mask-wearing. As of now: I will be a no-show. Something has to end this insanity.
Posted by: Old Dude at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (LGXGf)
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19
The press has NEVER been the good guys. They've always been cheap hustling whores.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (ifmtJ)
Only thing that has changed with them is what they'll do for what price. We are seeing that they will do more and more for even less money. Just like a $5 methed out whore on a street corner.
The press has NEVER been the good guys. They've always been cheap hustling whores.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (ifmtJ)
Only thing that has changed with them is what they'll do for what price. We are seeing that they will do more and more for even less money. Just like a $5 methed out whore on a street corner.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (N39Ws)
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Operating in the public interest, convenience and necessity? Something?
If it were possible, CBS should be forcibly "locked down."
Just like the rest of us. And permanently.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (s2VJv)
+++++++++++++
Pull FCC licenses from all of their affiliates. They can remain on the air if the dis-affiliate.
What's the point of CBS if they don't have a network anymore?
If it were possible, CBS should be forcibly "locked down."
Just like the rest of us. And permanently.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (s2VJv)
+++++++++++++
Pull FCC licenses from all of their affiliates. They can remain on the air if the dis-affiliate.
What's the point of CBS if they don't have a network anymore?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (hYcqw)
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CBS lies?
I'm shocked! Shocked I am!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 06, 2020 12:04 PM (axyOa)
Quit lying. You're beginning to sound like a Democrat.
I'm shocked! Shocked I am!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 06, 2020 12:04 PM (axyOa)
Quit lying. You're beginning to sound like a Democrat.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (Z4rgH)
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From CBS's own bullshit statement, denying that there were non-patients in line to get tested:
They informed us for the first time that one of their chief officers told at least one staffer to get in the testing line along with real patients.
So. Not false. True. There were clinic staffers in line, to make the line look longer.
Fuck you, you lying fucks. Go DIAF.
They informed us for the first time that one of their chief officers told at least one staffer to get in the testing line along with real patients.
So. Not false. True. There were clinic staffers in line, to make the line look longer.
Fuck you, you lying fucks. Go DIAF.
Posted by: Baron Munchausen at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (H6oke)
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Amateurs. Real news divisions try to blow up pick up trucks.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (Boy/L)
At least try to tip one over
Amateurs. Real news divisions try to blow up pick up trucks.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (Boy/L)
At least try to tip one over
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (N39Ws)
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I can see why CBS staged the video, but I can't understand why they didn't blow up a few cars and blame that on Trump.
Opportunity missed.
Opportunity missed.
Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (mrrpT)
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23 It's lockdown 4EVAH folks. The MSM is in on it, and all the politicians really like the power.
Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 06, 2020 12:04 PM (ZCiJZ)
``How long will the epidemic last?'' I enquired. ``As long as we can keep it going. . . . "
William S Burroughs
Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 06, 2020 12:04 PM (ZCiJZ)
``How long will the epidemic last?'' I enquired. ``As long as we can keep it going. . . . "
William S Burroughs
Posted by: banned paregoric at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (EkOzo)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (arJlL)
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I'm sure staff was told they wanted to get an accurate picture but couldn't "wait" for it.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (nRWPy)
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Sounds in keeping with the long history of CBS News
Posted by: Mary Mapes, media doyenne at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (NVYyb)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2020 12:08 PM (s2VJv)
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CBS == Cock and Bull Story
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:08 PM (hYcqw)
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Willowed:
Standing outside waiting for the Blue Angels pass by.
They came almost right over the top of the house.
America. Fuck yeah!
Standing outside waiting for the Blue Angels pass by.
They came almost right over the top of the house.
America. Fuck yeah!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:08 PM (At/8G)
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Trump needs to tweet on this.
He has.
@realDonaldTrump
The Fake News has reached an all time high!
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S
That's good but I was thinking more specifically with a link.
He has.
@realDonaldTrump
The Fake News has reached an all time high!
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S
That's good but I was thinking more specifically with a link.
Posted by: Ha at May 06, 2020 12:09 PM (4Q1w7)
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Uncle Walt during the Tet Offensive
That was the first time I called BS on CBS.
That was the first time I called BS on CBS.
Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at May 06, 2020 12:09 PM (w7KSn)
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I'm sure staff was told they wanted to get an accurate picture but couldn't "wait" for it.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (nRWPy)
++++++++++++
"Then come back when we're busy. Want me to say that things get busier later? Okay. Want me to lie for you right now? No."
That would not have been difficult.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 06, 2020 12:07 PM (nRWPy)
++++++++++++
"Then come back when we're busy. Want me to say that things get busier later? Okay. Want me to lie for you right now? No."
That would not have been difficult.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:09 PM (hYcqw)
54
``How long will the epidemic last?'' I enquired. ``As long as we can keep it going. . . . "
William S Burroughs
THIS.
William S Burroughs
THIS.
Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 06, 2020 12:09 PM (ZCiJZ)
55
*sigh*
Whenever I see the words, 'Project Veritas,' my heart sinks a wee bit. They do great work. Uncover a ton of slimy crap. But nobody will ever know about what they do, what they've uncovered, what they expose.
Whenever I see the words, 'Project Veritas,' my heart sinks a wee bit. They do great work. Uncover a ton of slimy crap. But nobody will ever know about what they do, what they've uncovered, what they expose.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 06, 2020 12:10 PM (O+I8R)
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I'm surprised.... REALLY!
Posted by: Pinochet Air Tours Flt Attendant at May 06, 2020 12:10 PM (UutBm)
57
Thing is, you KNOW they do this sort of stuff All. The. Time. What most people think of as "news" is actually just theater.
Posted by: I Have Questions at May 06, 2020 12:10 PM (+v+zN)
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"All your fakes are belong to us."
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 06, 2020 12:10 PM (dfRN6)
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So hospital professionals left their patients, picked up their car keys, hopped in their vehicles and got in a line because a cameraman told them to? Okay. I don't know about that. I'll have to read up.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (lwiT4)
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Uncle Walt during the Tet Offensive
If LBJ had followed up the Tet victory with a month of B-52 bombing of Hanoi, I think we might have seen a different outcome. Instead...
If LBJ had followed up the Tet victory with a month of B-52 bombing of Hanoi, I think we might have seen a different outcome. Instead...
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (Boy/L)
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Operating in the public interest, convenience and necessity? Something?
If it were possible, CBS should be forcibly "locked down."
Just like the rest of us. And permanently.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (s2VJv)
The major networks are critical infrastructure. Broad reach, very centralized. So take over the buildings and liquidate the current executives. Their behavior would get any non-criminal industry shut down with prejudice.
If it were possible, CBS should be forcibly "locked down."
Just like the rest of us. And permanently.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (s2VJv)
The major networks are critical infrastructure. Broad reach, very centralized. So take over the buildings and liquidate the current executives. Their behavior would get any non-criminal industry shut down with prejudice.
Posted by: trev006 at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (A/cPG)
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Let's remember this goes back to the days when '60 Minutes' let a plaintiff's lawyer show an Audi 'unintentionally accelerating' - after the transmission had been replumbed to change the internal hydraulics. This was in the early '80s. Filth.
Then we had NBC setting GM trucks on fire with model rocket engines.
If you trust the big media you're a fool.
Then we had NBC setting GM trucks on fire with model rocket engines.
If you trust the big media you're a fool.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (8erNz)
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>>That's good but I was thinking more specifically with a link.
He was retweeting a link to the story.
I doubt he's going to let it go anytime soon. Contrary to a lot of opinion, Trump knows what's going on.
He was retweeting a link to the story.
I doubt he's going to let it go anytime soon. Contrary to a lot of opinion, Trump knows what's going on.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)
64
And now, a word from MSNBC:
Tom Elliott@tomselliott
Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites): Americans' "obsession" with freedom makes us "blind" to threats like viruses and climate change.
"Government is not the biggest threat to our liberty . . . what the government does is protect us from" oppression.
Tom Elliott@tomselliott
Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites): Americans' "obsession" with freedom makes us "blind" to threats like viruses and climate change.
"Government is not the biggest threat to our liberty . . . what the government does is protect us from" oppression.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (+y/Ru)
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"Government is not the biggest threat to our liberty . . . what the government does is protect us from" oppression.
Mr. Orwell would like a word.
Mr. Orwell would like a word.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:12 PM (Boy/L)
66
Fake but accurate.
......courage.
Posted by: Dan Rather
Astounded it took 33 other comments before this made it in.
TANG is a distant memory, and we are all old.
Fake but accurate.
......courage.
Posted by: Dan Rather
Astounded it took 33 other comments before this made it in.
TANG is a distant memory, and we are all old.
Posted by: imp at May 06, 2020 12:12 PM (SFOr6)
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Like the photo at Jax Beach when it opened.
Posted by: dantesed at May 06, 2020 12:13 PM (88xKn)
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"CBS This Morning" Executive Producer Diana Miller gave an interview to her parent company's website Viacom.com' where she said the morning TV news show was making its coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic a priority.
"Whenever you're chasing a story that's developing, there are threads that emerge. Focusing on first responders has been important for us because they are on the frontlines, and it's important we're showing the reality of the situations they are in every day," she said.
"We've always been driven by the news and want to provide context and clarity on the important stories of the day," Miller said.
Bunch of words here but not much of a denial.
"Whenever you're chasing a story that's developing, there are threads that emerge. Focusing on first responders has been important for us because they are on the frontlines, and it's important we're showing the reality of the situations they are in every day," she said.
"We've always been driven by the news and want to provide context and clarity on the important stories of the day," Miller said.
Bunch of words here but not much of a denial.
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 06, 2020 12:13 PM (qLs5f)
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Yesterday, New York Post --
He (Trump) singled out two CBS News journalists as people who particularly irritated him -- Weijia Jiang and Paula Reid -- during the briefings.
I dunno why exactly; were they pulling a train with Jake Tapper?
Nah. I rate that as *impossible*.
He (Trump) singled out two CBS News journalists as people who particularly irritated him -- Weijia Jiang and Paula Reid -- during the briefings.
I dunno why exactly; were they pulling a train with Jake Tapper?
Nah. I rate that as *impossible*.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2020 12:13 PM (Z4rgH)
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Follow the money... and ... get in line, hobbits!
Posted by: mrp at May 06, 2020 12:13 PM (Pqytn)
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Idiots. They should've lit a few of the patients on fire to enhance the spectacle.
Posted by: NBC at May 06, 2020 12:14 PM (IvOed)
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Worst Apocalypse ever.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 06, 2020 12:14 PM (KQ/Al)
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Let's remember this goes back to the days when '60 Minutes' let a plaintiff's lawyer show an Audi 'unintentionally accelerating' - after the transmission had been replumbed to change the internal hydraulics.
Every bit of research on the Audi thing indicated that people were just missing the brake and hitting the gas. PJ O'Rourke has a great chapter on it in Parliament of Whores.
Every bit of research on the Audi thing indicated that people were just missing the brake and hitting the gas. PJ O'Rourke has a great chapter on it in Parliament of Whores.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:14 PM (Boy/L)
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If you trust the big media you're a fool.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (8erNz)
Is Fauci media?
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (8erNz)
Is Fauci media?
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 06, 2020 12:14 PM (qLs5f)
75
Fake, but accurately depicts the narrative we want you rubes to believe in!
Posted by: CBS News at May 06, 2020 12:14 PM (AMIL/)
76
Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites): Americans' "obsession" with freedom makes us "blind" to threats like viruses and climate change.
Did I say that out loud?
Did I say that out loud?
Posted by: Your Socialist overlords at May 06, 2020 12:14 PM (nF1Vl)
77
And now, a word from MSNBC:
Tom Elliott@tomselliott
Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites): Americans' "obsession" with
freedom makes us "blind" to threats like viruses and climate change.
"Government is not the biggest threat to our liberty . . . what the government does is protect us from" oppression.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (+y/Ru)
Minitrue: Wow, that's beautiful. Well done comrade
Tom Elliott@tomselliott
Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites): Americans' "obsession" with
freedom makes us "blind" to threats like viruses and climate change.
"Government is not the biggest threat to our liberty . . . what the government does is protect us from" oppression.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (+y/Ru)
Minitrue: Wow, that's beautiful. Well done comrade
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (idLQk)
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>>Follow the money... and ... get in line, hobbits!
Always follow the money.
https://tinyurl.com/ybo7dzsr
Always follow the money.
https://tinyurl.com/ybo7dzsr
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (ZLI7S)
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...
"Whenever you're chasing a story that's developing, there are threads that emerge. Focusing on first responders has been important for us because they are on the frontlines, and it's important we're showing the reality of the situations they are in every day," she said.
...
Bunch of words here but not much of a denial.
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 06, 2020 12:13 PM (qLs5f)
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There's a denial. He said they show reality.
...
"Whenever you're chasing a story that's developing, there are threads that emerge. Focusing on first responders has been important for us because they are on the frontlines, and it's important we're showing the reality of the situations they are in every day," she said.
...
Bunch of words here but not much of a denial.
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 06, 2020 12:13 PM (qLs5f)
++++++++++++++++
There's a denial. He said they show reality.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (hYcqw)
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Well if CBS calls it false, we all know it is true.
The network of Dan Rather and of the rigged gas tank blowing up on 60 Minutes of Lies.
The network of Dan Rather and of the rigged gas tank blowing up on 60 Minutes of Lies.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (pw+jk)
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While we might be blind to viruses and climate change, we're pretty good at World Wars.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (Boy/L)
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77 Minitrue: Wow, that's beautiful. Well done comrade
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (idLQk)
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Too many unwords, comrade. Double unplus good.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (idLQk)
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Too many unwords, comrade. Double unplus good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (LvTSG)
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Is Fauci media?
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 06, 2020 12:14 PM (qLs5f)
Absolutely he is. Nothing but a grand-stander. I was not aware until this morning that he once worked at the Wuhan lab. Maybe I'm the last to know. Wouldn't be the first time.
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 06, 2020 12:14 PM (qLs5f)
Absolutely he is. Nothing but a grand-stander. I was not aware until this morning that he once worked at the Wuhan lab. Maybe I'm the last to know. Wouldn't be the first time.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (lwiT4)
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Breaking: A man who strongly resembled Edward R. Murrow was seen at the landing site at Lakehurst, NJ carrying a Roman candle shortly after the Hindenburg burst into flames.
Developing...
Developing...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (cuKeo)
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MSM enemies of the people. Gibbet, rope, some assembly required.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (z7JGa)
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Hey, fake but accurate, that's the ticket. Ain't that right, Gunga Dan?
Posted by: direwolf at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (bQlWP)
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Ha! I sensed a Nood!
Posted by: Dave in Fla (Restaurants are open here!) at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (5p7BC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (85Gof)
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Makin' a livin' the old, hard way.
Takin' and givin' by day by day.
I dig snow and rain and the bright sunshine.
Makin' the line [makin' the line].
Takin' and givin' by day by day.
I dig snow and rain and the bright sunshine.
Makin' the line [makin' the line].
Posted by: CBS News at May 06, 2020 12:17 PM (+y/Ru)
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The amount of lies they have had to tell to justify this, at every level, about everything
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 06, 2020 12:17 PM (YHUP1)
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88 "Obsession with Freedom" ?
Hum?
I plead guilty
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (85Gof)
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This whole miseducation of the American Revolution and founding principles has gotten a little ridiculous.
Hum?
I plead guilty
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (85Gof)
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This whole miseducation of the American Revolution and founding principles has gotten a little ridiculous.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:17 PM (LvTSG)
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"We've always been driven by the news and want to provide context and clarity on the important stories of the day," Miller said.
LOl... The "news" Seriously? How much more can you beat the ronna' virus dead horse and ignore the elephant in the room, the FBI coup against a sitting president... see: General Flynn...
"We've always been driven by the news and want to provide context and clarity on the important stories of the day," Miller said.
LOl... The "news" Seriously? How much more can you beat the ronna' virus dead horse and ignore the elephant in the room, the FBI coup against a sitting president... see: General Flynn...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2020 12:17 PM (nF1Vl)
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83 Is Fauci media?
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 06, 2020 12:14 PM (qLs5f)
Absolutely he is. Nothing but a grand-stander. I was not aware until this morning that he once worked at the Wuhan lab. Maybe I'm the last to know. Wouldn't be the first time.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (lwiT4)
You are at minimum second to last since I didn't know.
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 06, 2020 12:14 PM (qLs5f)
Absolutely he is. Nothing but a grand-stander. I was not aware until this morning that he once worked at the Wuhan lab. Maybe I'm the last to know. Wouldn't be the first time.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:16 PM (lwiT4)
You are at minimum second to last since I didn't know.
Posted by: Someguy at May 06, 2020 12:17 PM (Zm+LZ)
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LOl... The "news" Seriously? How much more can you beat the ronna' virus dead horse and ignore the elephant in the room, the FBI coup against a sitting president... see: General Flynn...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2020 12:17 PM (nF1Vl)
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Or the related story to COVID: the enslavement and impoverishment of the American people.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2020 12:17 PM (nF1Vl)
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Or the related story to COVID: the enslavement and impoverishment of the American people.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:18 PM (hYcqw)
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Of course, I'm subbed to PV on YT, and have notifications turned on. And of course, google chose to not notify me, and bury the content.
I'm ready to start breaking stuff. Why have nice things if you can't use them?
I'm ready to start breaking stuff. Why have nice things if you can't use them?
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 06, 2020 12:18 PM (8B6Ng)
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Well if CBS calls it false, we all know it is true.
The network of Dan Rather and of the rigged gas tank blowing up on 60 Minutes of Lies.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (pw+jk)
The hospital director (or whatever title she has) is equally complicit with the scum at CBS, IMO.
Is CBS the station that showed the Kentucky gun range and called it a firefight where the Turks were slaughtering Kurds?
The network of Dan Rather and of the rigged gas tank blowing up on 60 Minutes of Lies.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (pw+jk)
The hospital director (or whatever title she has) is equally complicit with the scum at CBS, IMO.
Is CBS the station that showed the Kentucky gun range and called it a firefight where the Turks were slaughtering Kurds?
Posted by: LASue at May 06, 2020 12:18 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Yesterday, New York Post --
He (Trump) singled out two CBS News journalists as people who
particularly irritated him -- Weijia Jiang and Paula Reid -- during the
briefings.
I dunno why exactly; were they pulling a train with Jake Tapper?
Nah. I rate that as *impossible*.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2020 12:13 PM (Z4rgH)
===Accurate description would be "Were they pulling a train "PEGGING on Jake Tapper."
Which I rate as quite possible, even very probable.
He (Trump) singled out two CBS News journalists as people who
particularly irritated him -- Weijia Jiang and Paula Reid -- during the
briefings.
I dunno why exactly; were they pulling a train with Jake Tapper?
Nah. I rate that as *impossible*.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2020 12:13 PM (Z4rgH)
===Accurate description would be "Were they pulling a train "PEGGING on Jake Tapper."
Which I rate as quite possible, even very probable.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 12:18 PM (pw+jk)
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Fake but accurate.
Posted by: CBS at May 06, 2020 12:18 PM (LBiyC)
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Grand Rapids, MI. I figure CBS was helping Whitmer justify her fascist tactics by increasing panic amongst the locals. Grand Rapids, btw, is TRUMP COUNTRY.
Posted by: mrp at May 06, 2020 12:18 PM (Pqytn)
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Love the denials.
We're not saying it didn't happen, just we didn't do it.
Mom, on my solemn word, my sister did it!
We're not saying it didn't happen, just we didn't do it.
Mom, on my solemn word, my sister did it!
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:18 PM (NgKpN)
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Or the related story to COVID: the enslavement and impoverishment of the American people.
It's for our own "good" or something..
It's for our own "good" or something..
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (nF1Vl)
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I wonder why the news keeps getting caught pretending the crisis is *worse* than it really is.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (uEbPt)
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Next you'll be telling me that thayve a planted a bomb in car as footage and evidence of gas tanks exploding.
Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (ORgCC)
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And these people and all of their ilk have the gall to talk about "distrust of our institutions" and lament it as a bad thing (it is) while pretending they don't know why (they do).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (hYcqw)
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My question here: why did the medical staff agree to helping them fake it?
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The same reason so many of them have been lying about how dangerous it is:
It gives them power
And everyone calls them heroes
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The same reason so many of them have been lying about how dangerous it is:
It gives them power
And everyone calls them heroes
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (YHUP1)
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So much lying from the LYING media that I reflexively discard anything from the news... and I'm correct 90%+ of the time.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (pw+jk)
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What really frightens me is that we could be literally starving in the streets under a D pres, but the media would be showing happy people and rainbows 24/7.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (uEbPt)
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103 Next you'll be telling me that thayve a planted a bomb in car as footage and evidence of gas tanks exploding.
Or they "sat' on a story that protected that slime ball Weinstein....
Or they "sat' on a story that protected that slime ball Weinstein....
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (nF1Vl)
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13 Why did the hospital comply? There's the disturbing angle. We all knew CBS were a bunch of panicmongering fuckin liars.
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Comply? Some of the testing staff were the ones pretending to be in line.
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Comply? Some of the testing staff were the ones pretending to be in line.
Posted by: Menack at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (buTO7)
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So much lying from the LYING media that I reflexively discard anything from the news... and I'm correct 90%+ of the time.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (pw+jk)
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And government. And academia. And some of the sciences (namely climate science). And some of the industries (namely the tech industry).
This is what shattered trust looks like.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (pw+jk)
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And government. And academia. And some of the sciences (namely climate science). And some of the industries (namely the tech industry).
This is what shattered trust looks like.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (hYcqw)
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What really frightens me is that we could be
literally starving in the streets under a D pres, but the media would be
showing happy people and rainbows 24/7.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (uEbPt)
===
For proof see the Obama presidency.
literally starving in the streets under a D pres, but the media would be
showing happy people and rainbows 24/7.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (uEbPt)
===
For proof see the Obama presidency.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (Boy/L)
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Posted by: Someguy at May 06, 2020 12:17 PM (Zm+LZ)
Watched that you tube video from the female doctor who was jailed, and had a gag order on her for YEARS due to shenanigans with Fauci and his crew.
Video was taken down for violating community standards.
Watched that you tube video from the female doctor who was jailed, and had a gag order on her for YEARS due to shenanigans with Fauci and his crew.
Video was taken down for violating community standards.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (NgKpN)
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110 So much lying from the LYING media that I reflexively discard anything from the news... and I'm correct 90%+ of the time.
You mean like "Don Jr. is being indicted!"?
You mean like "Don Jr. is being indicted!"?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (nF1Vl)
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Why did the hospital comply? There's the disturbing angle. We all knew CBS were a bunch of panicmongering fuckin liars.
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Comply? Some of the testing staff were the ones pretending to be in line.
Posted by: Menack at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (buTO7)
I hope those brave heroes were served free meals.
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Comply? Some of the testing staff were the ones pretending to be in line.
Posted by: Menack at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (buTO7)
I hope those brave heroes were served free meals.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (mht8P)
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snopes.com rates this story as "mostly false."
Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (ORgCC)
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This is a great example of how the "news" is done these days. First, you decide what the story is going to be. (Invariably your story will support some Leftist trope.) Then, you go out and get witness quotes and photos that illustrate the pre-selected point. You ignore anything that doesn't fit the narrative, and if the required material isn't available, you just make up shit.
See, e.g., the New York Times 1619 Project.
See, e.g., the New York Times 1619 Project.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (cuKeo)
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They only stuck a bottle rocket in that gas tank to prove how it will burst into flames.
They only ran that story about flushing a Koran down the toilet out of concern.
They only ran a fake TANG memo because of a deeper truth.
They only edited the Zimmerman tape to make it sound awful because of concerns over racism
They only ran Jayson Blair's nonexistent travels and interviews because they wanted to encourage him
They only ran completely false information about the Lacrosse team rape story because they wanted to Believe All Women
They only ran a false story about Hands Up Don't Shoot because they wanted to express support for Black Lives Matter.
They only claimed Trump had early access to Wikileaks documents out of a desire for the truth.
They only ran repeated stories about 17 intelligence agencies supporting the Russian Collusion myth when it was just 4 analysts because they were worried about the election.
They ran a story claiming Scaramucci had ties to Russia because they were just trying to find the facts
They ran Duranty's analingus of the Soviet Union over Holodomor out of a desire to reach out to our enemies
They made up a story about Saturday Night Fever being based on a real man because Disco was so cool
They ran a story about Cookie, the little boy hooked on heroin just because they wanted to promote a young black woman in the industry
They ran dozens of Phillip Glass stories that were complete fabrications because they held a deeper truth.
They kept Brian Williams on for years despite his increasingly bizarre, blatantly false claims because they didn't want to hurt his feelings
on and on and on it goes through the years.
Oh, but you can trust them THIS time
They only ran that story about flushing a Koran down the toilet out of concern.
They only ran a fake TANG memo because of a deeper truth.
They only edited the Zimmerman tape to make it sound awful because of concerns over racism
They only ran Jayson Blair's nonexistent travels and interviews because they wanted to encourage him
They only ran completely false information about the Lacrosse team rape story because they wanted to Believe All Women
They only ran a false story about Hands Up Don't Shoot because they wanted to express support for Black Lives Matter.
They only claimed Trump had early access to Wikileaks documents out of a desire for the truth.
They only ran repeated stories about 17 intelligence agencies supporting the Russian Collusion myth when it was just 4 analysts because they were worried about the election.
They ran a story claiming Scaramucci had ties to Russia because they were just trying to find the facts
They ran Duranty's analingus of the Soviet Union over Holodomor out of a desire to reach out to our enemies
They made up a story about Saturday Night Fever being based on a real man because Disco was so cool
They ran a story about Cookie, the little boy hooked on heroin just because they wanted to promote a young black woman in the industry
They ran dozens of Phillip Glass stories that were complete fabrications because they held a deeper truth.
They kept Brian Williams on for years despite his increasingly bizarre, blatantly false claims because they didn't want to hurt his feelings
on and on and on it goes through the years.
Oh, but you can trust them THIS time
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (KZzsI)
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I guess the medical staff had nothing else to do. But the very definition of Fake News.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (r+sAi)
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I'm surprised CBS didn't use footage of "wounded" in Syria
Posted by: YEET at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (6MoD2)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (QzF6i)
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And YouTube would pull the videos of people starving down.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (mht8P)
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I guess the medical staff had nothing else to do. But the very definition of Fake News.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
It was make a commercial or get furloughed.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
It was make a commercial or get furloughed.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:23 PM (At/8G)
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Snopes is a DNC op, for crying out loud.
Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at May 06, 2020 12:23 PM (w7KSn)
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My question here: why did the medical staff agree to helping them fake it?
--'
The same reason so many of them have been lying about how dangerous it is:
It gives them power
And everyone calls them heroes
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (YHUP1)
I blame the boss hospital director, who obviously wants more $$ from donors by showing how busy they are; I don't blame the low level staffer whose boss told them to go get in their car for the news broadcast.
--'
The same reason so many of them have been lying about how dangerous it is:
It gives them power
And everyone calls them heroes
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (YHUP1)
I blame the boss hospital director, who obviously wants more $$ from donors by showing how busy they are; I don't blame the low level staffer whose boss told them to go get in their car for the news broadcast.
Posted by: LASue at May 06, 2020 12:23 PM (Ed8Zd)
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The fraud Fauci went on CNN with Fredo the other night, bragging about he's been friends with the Cuomos for years, and he was worried about Fredo in his basement and called every single day to see how he was doing.
I guess he missed him when he was out and about with the fam, getting in the face of a bike rider.
I guess he missed him when he was out and about with the fam, getting in the face of a bike rider.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:23 PM (ptqGC)
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63 >>That's good but I was thinking more specifically with a link.
He was retweeting a link to the story.
I doubt he's going to let it go anytime soon. Contrary to a lot of opinion, Trump knows what's going on.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)
No, that specific tweet of his wasn't a retweet of O'Keefe's link. O'keefe even posted the link in the replies to that tweet of Trump's.
He was retweeting a link to the story.
I doubt he's going to let it go anytime soon. Contrary to a lot of opinion, Trump knows what's going on.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)
No, that specific tweet of his wasn't a retweet of O'Keefe's link. O'keefe even posted the link in the replies to that tweet of Trump's.
Posted by: Tami at May 06, 2020 12:23 PM (cF8AT)
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This is what shattered trust looks like.
And they are incapable of introspection because Breitbart was right: They hate us. Act accordingly. This is a war for the soul of the country and there will be only one winner.
And they are incapable of introspection because Breitbart was right: They hate us. Act accordingly. This is a war for the soul of the country and there will be only one winner.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:23 PM (Boy/L)
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My question here: why did the medical staff agree to helping them fake it?
--'
The same reason so many of them have been lying about how dangerous it is:
It gives them power
And everyone calls them heroes
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (YHUP1)
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Simpler than that - more money.
--'
The same reason so many of them have been lying about how dangerous it is:
It gives them power
And everyone calls them heroes
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 06, 2020 12:19 PM (YHUP1)
===========================
Simpler than that - more money.
Posted by: mrp at May 06, 2020 12:23 PM (Pqytn)
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Watched that you tube video from the female doctor
who was jailed, and had a gag order on her for YEARS due to shenanigans
with Fauci and his crew.
Video was taken down for violating community standards.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (NgKpN)
I think I watched that one this morning. Called "Plandemic". Talked about Fauci's sketchy past in relation to the corona. Featured a scientist he set out to discredit. Is that the one?
I think I might find it on Vimeo. Let me look.....
who was jailed, and had a gag order on her for YEARS due to shenanigans
with Fauci and his crew.
Video was taken down for violating community standards.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (NgKpN)
I think I watched that one this morning. Called "Plandemic". Talked about Fauci's sketchy past in relation to the corona. Featured a scientist he set out to discredit. Is that the one?
I think I might find it on Vimeo. Let me look.....
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:24 PM (lwiT4)
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How many weeks will it be before the "blue wall" cracks and some of the Dem governors give in and rescind their orders. I think it will be about 2 weeks until the pictures of people in Texas, Florida, and Georgia going out to eat causes the grumbling of citizens to finally overwhelm the Karens.
I was on a call with my team in San Diego, and told them I went out to a restaurant on Monday night, and they about went crazy. They were all ready to hop on planes to Florida.
I was on a call with my team in San Diego, and told them I went out to a restaurant on Monday night, and they about went crazy. They were all ready to hop on planes to Florida.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (Being served drinks!) at May 06, 2020 12:24 PM (5p7BC)
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104 - I don't think distrust of institutions is a bad thing. They've always been this bad. You should distrust them. Always. This is reality.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 06, 2020 12:24 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 06, 2020 12:24 PM (NkeJ4)
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:25 PM (lwiT4)
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109 13 Why did the hospital comply? There's the disturbing angle. We all knew CBS were a bunch of panicmongering fuckin liars.
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Comply? Some of the testing staff were the ones pretending to be in line.
Posted by: Menack at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (buTO7)
Besides, they had time to spare between dancing tik tok videos.
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Comply? Some of the testing staff were the ones pretending to be in line.
Posted by: Menack at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (buTO7)
Besides, they had time to spare between dancing tik tok videos.
Posted by: Tami at May 06, 2020 12:25 PM (cF8AT)
138
They kept Brian Williams on for years despite his increasingly bizarre, blatantly false claims because they didn't want to hurt his feelings
on and on and on it goes through the years.
Oh, but you can trust them THIS time
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (KZzsI)
That's a worthy list; I think I'll save it.
on and on and on it goes through the years.
Oh, but you can trust them THIS time
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (KZzsI)
That's a worthy list; I think I'll save it.
Posted by: LASue at May 06, 2020 12:25 PM (Ed8Zd)
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>>And government. And academia. And some of the sciences (namely climate science).
The global warming scam followed the exact same script as this virus.
Repeal the Bayh Dole Act.
The global warming scam followed the exact same script as this virus.
Repeal the Bayh Dole Act.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:26 PM (ZLI7S)
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Watched that you tube video from the female doctor
who was jailed, and had a gag order on her for YEARS due to shenanigans
with Fauci and his crew.
Video was taken down for violating community standards.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (NgKpN)
MinitrueTube: Comrade the video was doubleplus ungood. And everyone involved in it needs a visit to Room 101.
who was jailed, and had a gag order on her for YEARS due to shenanigans
with Fauci and his crew.
Video was taken down for violating community standards.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (NgKpN)
MinitrueTube: Comrade the video was doubleplus ungood. And everyone involved in it needs a visit to Room 101.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:26 PM (idLQk)
141
Uncle Walt during the Tet Offensive
If LBJ had followed up the Tet victory with a month of B-52 bombing of Hanoi, I think we might have seen a different outcome. Instead...
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (Boy/L)
More like 2 weeks. Operation Linebacker II bombed the North Viets back to the peace table in about 10 days, where they basically begged for peace because they were FINALLY getting bombed back into the stone age. Messy and unsatisfying, but seeing as we achieved our objectives of a peace treaty and recognition of South Vietnamese independence, I call that a win.
The next war, about 2 years later was another matter.
Uncle Walt during the Tet Offensive
If LBJ had followed up the Tet victory with a month of B-52 bombing of Hanoi, I think we might have seen a different outcome. Instead...
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (Boy/L)
More like 2 weeks. Operation Linebacker II bombed the North Viets back to the peace table in about 10 days, where they basically begged for peace because they were FINALLY getting bombed back into the stone age. Messy and unsatisfying, but seeing as we achieved our objectives of a peace treaty and recognition of South Vietnamese independence, I call that a win.
The next war, about 2 years later was another matter.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2020 12:26 PM (EGyGV)
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I think it will be about 2 weeks until the pictures of people in Texas, Florida, and Georgia going out to eat causes the grumbling of citizens to finally overwhelm the Karens.
They'll still vote Democrat. Lessons learned: zero.
I think it will be about 2 weeks until the pictures of people in Texas, Florida, and Georgia going out to eat causes the grumbling of citizens to finally overwhelm the Karens.
They'll still vote Democrat. Lessons learned: zero.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2020 12:26 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:26 PM (+y/Ru)
144
How many weeks will it be before the "blue wall" cracks and some of the Dem governors give in and rescind their orders. I think it will be about 2 weeks until the pictures of people in Texas, Florida, and Georgia going out to eat causes the grumbling of citizens to finally overwhelm the Karens.
I was on a call with my team in San Diego, and told them I went out to a restaurant on Monday night, and they about went crazy. They were all ready to hop on planes to Florida.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
Why? So the could catch the 'Rona on the plane?
I was on a call with my team in San Diego, and told them I went out to a restaurant on Monday night, and they about went crazy. They were all ready to hop on planes to Florida.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
Why? So the could catch the 'Rona on the plane?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:27 PM (At/8G)
145
Faked news.
Is there any real news from the MSM anymore?
CBS was caught recycling Italian hospital footage for a story on NY hospitals - one would think they would be on their best behavior. This may be their best behavior, if they've been doing this as standard operating procedure.
Is there any real news from the MSM anymore?
CBS was caught recycling Italian hospital footage for a story on NY hospitals - one would think they would be on their best behavior. This may be their best behavior, if they've been doing this as standard operating procedure.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 12:27 PM (bDqIh)
146
"We've always been driven by the news and want to provide context and clarity on the important stories of the day," Miller said.
Bunch of words here but not much of a denial.
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 06, 20
So she says, the news is driven by the news?
Genius.
Bunch of words here but not much of a denial.
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 06, 20
So she says, the news is driven by the news?
Genius.
Posted by: LASue at May 06, 2020 12:27 PM (Ed8Zd)
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I was on a call with my team in San Diego, and told them I went out to a restaurant on Monday night, and they about went crazy. They were all ready to hop on planes to Florida.
I give it a week in California, even in the hardcore places.
Right now no one is staying indoors if they don't want to, there are dogs that are filing union grievances over their third walk in a day. And I f'in want a real haircut.
I give it a week in California, even in the hardcore places.
Right now no one is staying indoors if they don't want to, there are dogs that are filing union grievances over their third walk in a day. And I f'in want a real haircut.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:27 PM (8erNz)
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What really frightens me is that we could be literally starving in the streets under a D pres, but the media would be showing happy people and rainbows 24/7.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (
Yep
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Yep
Posted by: North Korean State Media at May 06, 2020 12:27 PM (4Q1w7)
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Comply? Some of the testing staff were the ones pretending to be in line.
Posted by: Menack at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (buTO7)
Besides, they had time to spare between dancing tik tok videos.
Posted by: Tami at May 06, 2020 12:25 PM (cF8AT)
And now they're all suffering from PTSD.
My son's two buddies who were Army and Marine medics in A-stan and Iraq would like them to hold their beers.
Comply? Some of the testing staff were the ones pretending to be in line.
Posted by: Menack at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (buTO7)
Besides, they had time to spare between dancing tik tok videos.
Posted by: Tami at May 06, 2020 12:25 PM (cF8AT)
And now they're all suffering from PTSD.
My son's two buddies who were Army and Marine medics in A-stan and Iraq would like them to hold their beers.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:27 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Bert G, With a New Podcast Episode at May 06, 2020 12:27 PM (OMsf+)
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In that Plandemic video I linked above, several doctors speak out on how this lockdown is exactly the wrong thing to be doing right now.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:28 PM (lwiT4)
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We could learn a thing or two from these guys.
Posted by: Pravda at May 06, 2020 12:28 PM (gmo/4)
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You are at minimum second to last since I didn't know.
Posted by: Someguy at May 06, 2020 12:17 PM (Zm+LZ)
From what I'd seen he is also involved in filing for a patent on a potential vaccine for his master Bill Gates. He's in this up to his beady little eyeballs, which means we're knee deep. Necks need stretching.
Posted by: Someguy at May 06, 2020 12:17 PM (Zm+LZ)
From what I'd seen he is also involved in filing for a patent on a potential vaccine for his master Bill Gates. He's in this up to his beady little eyeballs, which means we're knee deep. Necks need stretching.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 06, 2020 12:28 PM (8B6Ng)
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Good example of how we're not fighting back. If we were truly fighting back, Trump and/or his press secretary would force CBS to answer to this at their next briefing. At the very least, our leading politicians would. They don't.
This would force CBS on the defensive, force them to cover the story, and expose James O'Keefe (who probably reaches a limited audience of likeminded viewers) to a much wider audience.
But we don't. We let it pass.
This would force CBS on the defensive, force them to cover the story, and expose James O'Keefe (who probably reaches a limited audience of likeminded viewers) to a much wider audience.
But we don't. We let it pass.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 06, 2020 12:28 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 06, 2020 12:28 PM (ItAg0)
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I was on a call with my team in San Diego, and told them I went out to a restaurant on Monday night, and they about went crazy. They were all ready to hop on planes to Florida.
I give it a week in California, even in the hardcore places.
Right now no one is staying indoors if they don't want to, there are dogs that are filing union grievances over their third walk in a day. And I f'in want a real haircut.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020
Im oversharing my Texas restaurant outings and store and salon visits with my California friends just to hurry their revolt along.
I give it a week in California, even in the hardcore places.
Right now no one is staying indoors if they don't want to, there are dogs that are filing union grievances over their third walk in a day. And I f'in want a real haircut.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020
Im oversharing my Texas restaurant outings and store and salon visits with my California friends just to hurry their revolt along.
Posted by: LASue at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (KQ/Al)
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Our local news in Michigan is only a mouthpiece for our esteemed Governor, but they out did themselves yesterday saying that the western part of our state was showing a high and concerning rate of the Chinese flu virus. So when this story was played on our local talk radio it explained a lot. Since a few lawsuits have been filed against the governor, the local news and the democrat party were busy trying to justify her bizarre behavior.
Posted by: Chillin the most at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (lonOK)
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Our local beach will allow chairs and umbrellas beginning tomorrow. FREEDOM!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (ptqGC)
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>> Here's the video regarding Fauci. Watch it before they take it down.
https://vimeo.com/414289492
Oh, she's the one who was in the Epoch Times documentary on the source of the Wuhan flu.
https://vimeo.com/414289492
Oh, she's the one who was in the Epoch Times documentary on the source of the Wuhan flu.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (bDqIh)
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Some people deserve to have a flesh eating bacteria chew their face off.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 06, 2020 12:30 PM (H2ofG)
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I never got the lines at these testing centers. While I am sure they did get some traffic, it wasn't much. Every time I drove past our local site, the personnel were on their phones or taking a smoke break.
Wait. Does that mean they weren't essential workers by Governor Hee-Haw Cuomo's standard?
Wait. Does that mean they weren't essential workers by Governor Hee-Haw Cuomo's standard?
Posted by: Marcus T at May 06, 2020 12:30 PM (VpIIl)
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Good news. Today is National Nurses' Day. Our local CBS affiliate is just giddy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:30 PM (ptqGC)
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Considering how O'Keefe runs things:
CBS: we didn't fake the news by making hospital workers get in line
PV: releases tape of medical worker saying that he saw it happen
CBS: hah selectively edited and taken out of context!
PV: releases complete, unedited tape
CBS: But it's only 1!
PV: releases tapes of another
CBS: selectively edited!
PV: releases complete, unedited tape
CBS: yeah well those employees are MAGA weenies!
PV: releases Democrat registration cards
CBS: yeah but we didn't do it, they are lying!
PV: releases tape of CBS employee saying they did it
CBS: selectively edited!
PV: releases complete, unedited tape
CBS: fires employee
Hospital: fires employees
MFM: criminal James O'Keefe selectively edits tapes and promotes conspiracy theories!
PV: umm, did you watch the tapes at all?
MFM: ORANGE MAN BAD! ORANGE MAN BLOOD ON HANDS! ORANGE MAN WON'T GIVE YOU TESTS!!!
CBS: we didn't fake the news by making hospital workers get in line
PV: releases tape of medical worker saying that he saw it happen
CBS: hah selectively edited and taken out of context!
PV: releases complete, unedited tape
CBS: But it's only 1!
PV: releases tapes of another
CBS: selectively edited!
PV: releases complete, unedited tape
CBS: yeah well those employees are MAGA weenies!
PV: releases Democrat registration cards
CBS: yeah but we didn't do it, they are lying!
PV: releases tape of CBS employee saying they did it
CBS: selectively edited!
PV: releases complete, unedited tape
CBS: fires employee
Hospital: fires employees
MFM: criminal James O'Keefe selectively edits tapes and promotes conspiracy theories!
PV: umm, did you watch the tapes at all?
MFM: ORANGE MAN BAD! ORANGE MAN BLOOD ON HANDS! ORANGE MAN WON'T GIVE YOU TESTS!!!
Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 12:31 PM (ZfRYq)
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Our local beach will allow chairs and umbrellas beginning tomorrow. FREEDOM!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (ptqGC)
I envy you so. Still on pins and needles here, waiting to see how the Wisconsin Supreme Court rules on our illegal lockdown. It would be wonderful to be a free woman again.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (ptqGC)
I envy you so. Still on pins and needles here, waiting to see how the Wisconsin Supreme Court rules on our illegal lockdown. It would be wonderful to be a free woman again.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
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What about showing the Italian hospital to claim overwhelmed New York hospital.....Twice.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 06, 2020 12:31 PM (QzF6i)
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"at least one staffer" is legally and mathematically equivalent to (1 .. infinity).
Thanks CBS lawyers..
Thanks CBS lawyers..
Posted by: banana Dream at May 06, 2020 12:31 PM (l6b3d)
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People are starting to get "that" feeling about this virus. You know- the one where your squeak hole hurts and there's a Fiver on the night stand...
Posted by: Marcus T at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (VpIIl)
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Im oversharing my Texas restaurant outings and store and salon visits with my California friends just to hurry their revolt along.
Yeah, that.
I was gonna have a 'kiss me I need herd immunity' T-shirt done up, but that might be a bit much.
Yeah, that.
I was gonna have a 'kiss me I need herd immunity' T-shirt done up, but that might be a bit much.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (8erNz)
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10 or 15 years ago, there was an iconic picture of a Palestinian stone-thrower. Action shot, good detail, etc. It made the rounds.
Then an Israeli press photographer released a photo of the reverse angle. It showed about 20 photographers from various agencies lined up in a cluster to photograph the event and no one else around either them or the stone thrower.
It was staged. Completely.
I wish I had saved the picture, it is nowhere to be found now (and least nowhere I have found).
In no respect is the Press trustworthy, and it has not been trustworthy for my entire lifetime.
Then an Israeli press photographer released a photo of the reverse angle. It showed about 20 photographers from various agencies lined up in a cluster to photograph the event and no one else around either them or the stone thrower.
It was staged. Completely.
I wish I had saved the picture, it is nowhere to be found now (and least nowhere I have found).
In no respect is the Press trustworthy, and it has not been trustworthy for my entire lifetime.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (hYcqw)
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How many weeks will it be before the "blue wall" cracks and some of the Dem governors give in and rescind their orders.
When the food shortages start to get bad, which will be pretty damned soon. Meat is already getting expensive and rare. That is something that the rich and powerful cannot avoid by their money and position. If the food isn't there its not there, no matter how rich you are. They'll finally start feeling the pinch.
When the food shortages start to get bad, which will be pretty damned soon. Meat is already getting expensive and rare. That is something that the rich and powerful cannot avoid by their money and position. If the food isn't there its not there, no matter how rich you are. They'll finally start feeling the pinch.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (KZzsI)
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Let us be clear. The MSM is not the news. It is not journalism. They never tell the truth. They tell a story.
Posted by: iandeal at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (vgGyZ)
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They don't report the story. They make the story.
Posted by: Bosk at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (9m9TT)
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Minor quibble, Phillip Glass is a minimalist composer.
I thought he was a comic book villain.
Same thing. Doodly, doodly, doodly, doodly. Repeat for 1 hour.
Minor quibble, Phillip Glass is a minimalist composer.
I thought he was a comic book villain.
Same thing. Doodly, doodly, doodly, doodly. Repeat for 1 hour.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (mht8P)
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It would be sweet if Trump showed the fake Italian hospital video and then the CBS fake testing video and then called CBS fake news and said "your network is grounded for being a lying DNC propaganda outfit for the DNC. Sit down, shut up and don't expect to be called on ever again!"
Also too soon for #deathwatchRBG ?
No news is good news right?
Also too soon for #deathwatchRBG ?
No news is good news right?
Posted by: Iris at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (lSFe/)
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I envy you so. Still on pins and needles here,
waiting to see how the Wisconsin Supreme Court rules on our illegal
lockdown. It would be wonderful to be a free woman again.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
Our Mayor is going nuts over the re-openings. He's set up a snitch line for people to report a lack of social distancing, no masks on salon and restaurant employees, etc.
waiting to see how the Wisconsin Supreme Court rules on our illegal
lockdown. It would be wonderful to be a free woman again.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
Our Mayor is going nuts over the re-openings. He's set up a snitch line for people to report a lack of social distancing, no masks on salon and restaurant employees, etc.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (ptqGC)
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on CNN with Fredo the other night,
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Didja see Fredo interview his brother? Caveat: have anti-nausea medication handy.
https://bit.ly/3fwEzTp
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Didja see Fredo interview his brother? Caveat: have anti-nausea medication handy.
https://bit.ly/3fwEzTp
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (+y/Ru)
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139:
"The global warming scam followed the exact same script as this virus."
They both have as ultimate goals accretion of power into the political class's hands. The resemblance between the two is indistinguishable because the ends are the same. Both will end up on the ash heap of history along with their predecessor, communism.
"The global warming scam followed the exact same script as this virus."
They both have as ultimate goals accretion of power into the political class's hands. The resemblance between the two is indistinguishable because the ends are the same. Both will end up on the ash heap of history along with their predecessor, communism.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (puu6v)
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My question here: why did the medical staff agree to helping them fake
it? I would have flatly refused to participate in the sham.
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Doctors and nurses are not angels.
it? I would have flatly refused to participate in the sham.
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Doctors and nurses are not angels.
Posted by: Methos at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (kOpft)
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Look at that, Fox is getting around to reporting on Obama criticizing the Republican in the Senate for investigating Biden's corruption in Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:33 PM (ZLI7S)
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134 104 - I don't think distrust of institutions is a bad thing. They've always been this bad. You should distrust them. Always. This is reality.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 06, 2020 12:24 PM (H5knJ)
Institutions are creations of humanity and therefore will have all of humanity's flaws. Therefore blind trust in them is foolish.
I think a healthy level of distrust is required in basically everything.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 06, 2020 12:24 PM (H5knJ)
Institutions are creations of humanity and therefore will have all of humanity's flaws. Therefore blind trust in them is foolish.
I think a healthy level of distrust is required in basically everything.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:33 PM (zqhdn)
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175 Also too soon for #deathwatchRBG ?
No news is good news right?
Posted by: Iris at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (lSFe/)
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She getting another aborted baby blood bath. She should be good for another six months.
No news is good news right?
Posted by: Iris at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (lSFe/)
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She getting another aborted baby blood bath. She should be good for another six months.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:33 PM (LvTSG)
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Oh, she's the one who was in the Epoch Times documentary on the source of the Wuhan flu.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (bDqIh)
Yes, from what I can tell, she has basically had her life destroyed by blowing the whistle on some of these characters.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (bDqIh)
Yes, from what I can tell, she has basically had her life destroyed by blowing the whistle on some of these characters.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:33 PM (lwiT4)
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I guess he missed him when he was out and about with the fam, getting in the face of a bike rider.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:23 PM (ptqGC)
And don't forget, Cuomo got his KID infected with the Chinese Lung AIDS. After he announced that (the same day as his triumphant basement walk, if memory serves), it got swept under the carpet.
I guess he missed him when he was out and about with the fam, getting in the face of a bike rider.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:23 PM (ptqGC)
And don't forget, Cuomo got his KID infected with the Chinese Lung AIDS. After he announced that (the same day as his triumphant basement walk, if memory serves), it got swept under the carpet.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2020 12:33 PM (EGyGV)
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One can just imagine the shock and dismay at CBS HQ when they were informed that patient numbers were FAKED. FAKED! Oh horrors! From the same people who routinely crop and alter crowd shots taken at Dem political rallies ("Thousands of supporters attended ..").
Posted by: mrp at May 06, 2020 12:33 PM (Pqytn)
186
The Media is Green Helmet Guy.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 06, 2020 12:33 PM (H2ofG)
187
Have always said the senseless policies will face away or crumble under the weight of facts, common sense, and people's desire to do normal things.
The "senseless policies" - those which, now, are clearly irrelevant.
One of which appears to be much of "testing".
Stipulating the following things, now known to some degree of confidence:
* infection fatality rate of C-19 *not* apocalyptic, appears sub-influenza for most demos
* reproduction rate much lower than initially believed
* hospitalization/acute care rate, even at "peaks" not a problem
One wonders:
* why diagnostic testing other than for symptomatic, and screening for medical/assisted care/etc staff, other select occupations?
* why not pour resources into a very rapid, huge anti-body survey, which will help confirm non-apocalyptic dimensions of this bug?
And the constant, widespread, unvarying anecdotal accounts of empty testing centers, even some closing already due to lack of business.
Several things that don't seem to make sense in any framework, unless I'm missing a lot.
The "senseless policies" - those which, now, are clearly irrelevant.
One of which appears to be much of "testing".
Stipulating the following things, now known to some degree of confidence:
* infection fatality rate of C-19 *not* apocalyptic, appears sub-influenza for most demos
* reproduction rate much lower than initially believed
* hospitalization/acute care rate, even at "peaks" not a problem
One wonders:
* why diagnostic testing other than for symptomatic, and screening for medical/assisted care/etc staff, other select occupations?
* why not pour resources into a very rapid, huge anti-body survey, which will help confirm non-apocalyptic dimensions of this bug?
And the constant, widespread, unvarying anecdotal accounts of empty testing centers, even some closing already due to lack of business.
Several things that don't seem to make sense in any framework, unless I'm missing a lot.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 06, 2020 12:33 PM (El6T/)
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180 Look at that, Fox is getting around to reporting on Obama criticizing the Republican in the Senate for investigating Biden's corruption in Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:33 PM (ZLI7S)
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"I said that there wasn't a smidgen of corruption in my administration, which made it true because of the power of words."
-Barack Obama
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:33 PM (ZLI7S)
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"I said that there wasn't a smidgen of corruption in my administration, which made it true because of the power of words."
-Barack Obama
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (LvTSG)
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MFM: ORANGE MAN BAD! ORANGE MAN BLOOD ON HANDS! ORANGE MAN WON'T GIVE YOU TESTS!!!
Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 12:31 PM (ZfRYq)
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About right. Every damn time.
Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 12:31 PM (ZfRYq)
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About right. Every damn time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (hYcqw)
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My favorite is that in New York City, they kept showing the same hospital in Queens and then using it as a ubiquitous OMG!! NYC is under siege!! They are dying in the streets!!
Posted by: Marcus T at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (VpIIl)
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Time for a little Tik Tok Dance with the others in the nursing staff, I'll be the masked and robed "patient" in the wheelchair.
Whee!
Stay at home! Flatten the curve!
Life is for watching through a window or on a tv monitor!
Whee!
Stay at home! Flatten the curve!
Life is for watching through a window or on a tv monitor!
Posted by: Whut? This ain't fake at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (mht8P)
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I would like to ask a question. Not trying to be a troll.
Why do people hate the concept of masks? Taiwan and Hong Kong knocked this down to zero with the use of masks.
I do fluid dynamics in real life, and the physics all support masks reducing the spread. N95 masks will even protect you substantially although I would not exercise in them unless you want to pass out.
Other things that reduce the spread is low density, warn temperatures, and sunlight (I agree no masks are needed outside, and 6 feet is overkill in even a light breeze). Which is likely why California and Florida have stayed low (as well as Cali likely having a less virulent strain hit it in January).
I was saying these things back in Feb when cdc and fda were giving out misinformation. Even Ace came out a while back and said if it helps open things up just do it.
Is it that you think it makes you a subject? I live in Cali and I am infuriated at all this. The news media infuriated me. Fauci infuriated me. But masks are the one thing an independent Free thinking person can do as their part. If we had just done masks from the I think we would be in exactly the same spot we Are in now. Maybe better. But wearing a mask means I am doing the one thing I have control over to help older people. Maybe I am just a slave. Prove me wrong. Give me A good reason for not wearing a mask. (Again, indoors only. Not outdoors.)
Why do people hate the concept of masks? Taiwan and Hong Kong knocked this down to zero with the use of masks.
I do fluid dynamics in real life, and the physics all support masks reducing the spread. N95 masks will even protect you substantially although I would not exercise in them unless you want to pass out.
Other things that reduce the spread is low density, warn temperatures, and sunlight (I agree no masks are needed outside, and 6 feet is overkill in even a light breeze). Which is likely why California and Florida have stayed low (as well as Cali likely having a less virulent strain hit it in January).
I was saying these things back in Feb when cdc and fda were giving out misinformation. Even Ace came out a while back and said if it helps open things up just do it.
Is it that you think it makes you a subject? I live in Cali and I am infuriated at all this. The news media infuriated me. Fauci infuriated me. But masks are the one thing an independent Free thinking person can do as their part. If we had just done masks from the I think we would be in exactly the same spot we Are in now. Maybe better. But wearing a mask means I am doing the one thing I have control over to help older people. Maybe I am just a slave. Prove me wrong. Give me A good reason for not wearing a mask. (Again, indoors only. Not outdoors.)
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
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Remember the fake photograph of the illegal alien baby factory running from the river with her kids because the border patrol was "shooting" at them?
Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (gmo/4)
195
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Good news. Today is National Nurses' Day. Our local CBS affiliate is just giddy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:30 PM (ptqGC)
And it's supposedly Teacher Week too. So we are all bombarded with twice the ridiculous hero worship.
Good news. Today is National Nurses' Day. Our local CBS affiliate is just giddy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:30 PM (ptqGC)
And it's supposedly Teacher Week too. So we are all bombarded with twice the ridiculous hero worship.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (N39Ws)
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The San Francisco Department of Public Health (SFDPH) confirmed in a tweet Tuesday that homeless people put up in hotels are being given free alcohol and drugs.
Are they also teaching them how to use a toilet?
Are they also teaching them how to use a toilet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (85Gof)
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>>They both have as ultimate goals accretion of power into the political class's hands. The resemblance between the two is indistinguishable because the ends are the same. Both will end up on the ash heap of history along with their predecessor, communism.
More importantly, the means are the same.
Science has been corrupted by government for decades. Money, power and control.
More importantly, the means are the same.
Science has been corrupted by government for decades. Money, power and control.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (ZLI7S)
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78 >>Follow the money... and ... get in line, hobbits!
Always follow the money.
https://tinyurl.com/ybo7dzsr
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (ZLI7S)
That makes Trump just a big ol' Chump, doesn't it?
Always follow the money.
https://tinyurl.com/ybo7dzsr
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (ZLI7S)
That makes Trump just a big ol' Chump, doesn't it?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (trdmm)
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Then an Israeli press photographer released a photo of the reverse angle. It showed about 20 photographers from various agencies lined up in a cluster to photograph the event and no one else around either them or the stone thrower.
Yeah, I remember that. Never trust the press. On any side. Unless you've evaluated the credibility of the specific outlet.
This has been true my entire lifetime, if I never really recognized it until I was in my 20s.
Yeah, I remember that. Never trust the press. On any side. Unless you've evaluated the credibility of the specific outlet.
This has been true my entire lifetime, if I never really recognized it until I was in my 20s.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (8erNz)
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136 Here's the video regarding Fauci. Watch it before they take it down.
https://vimeo.com/414289492
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:25 PM (lwiT4)
Thanks, reposted to me FB page, we'll see if it stays up.
https://vimeo.com/414289492
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:25 PM (lwiT4)
Thanks, reposted to me FB page, we'll see if it stays up.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (NgKpN)
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Ugh, what a waste. Well, glad I only used the CBS free trial for Picard. Show was ok. I'm not going back to it ever.
Posted by: Draki at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (HDwJc)
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If I see One More Ad telling me to "Stay home so we can be safe!" I'm going to hurt something.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (ptqGC)
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I never got the lines at these testing centers. While I am sure they did get some traffic, it wasn't much. Every time I drove past our local site, the personnel were on their phones or taking a smoke break.
Smoke breaks? By medical workers?
That almost sounds like smoking isn't as bad as they claim.
Smoke breaks? By medical workers?
That almost sounds like smoking isn't as bad as they claim.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (At/8G)
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Our Mayor is going nuts over the re-openings. He's set up a snitch line for people to report a lack of social distancing, no masks on salon and restaurant employees, etc.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (ptqGC)
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Have a link? I'm happy to dick-pic the snitch line.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (ptqGC)
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Have a link? I'm happy to dick-pic the snitch line.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (hYcqw)
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Our Mayor is going nuts over the re-openings. He's
set up a snitch line for people to report a lack of social distancing,
no masks on salon and restaurant employees, etc.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (ptqGC)
It's comforting to know that on the 4th of July, when we all wave the flag and sing the Star Spangled Banner, that literally half of the people that surround us would rather live under tyranny.
set up a snitch line for people to report a lack of social distancing,
no masks on salon and restaurant employees, etc.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (ptqGC)
It's comforting to know that on the 4th of July, when we all wave the flag and sing the Star Spangled Banner, that literally half of the people that surround us would rather live under tyranny.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (lwiT4)
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Right, Stephen Glass, not Phillip.
PV: umm, did you watch the tapes at all?
MFM: ORANGE MAN BAD! ORANGE MAN BLOOD ON HANDS! ORANGE MAN WON'T GIVE YOU TESTS!!!
"selectively edited!!!!"
--Every leftist
PV: umm, did you watch the tapes at all?
MFM: ORANGE MAN BAD! ORANGE MAN BLOOD ON HANDS! ORANGE MAN WON'T GIVE YOU TESTS!!!
"selectively edited!!!!"
--Every leftist
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (KZzsI)
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Is this better, or worse, than using footage of a machine-gun shoot in KY as footage from Syria?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (El6T/)
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I was gonna have a 'kiss me I need herd immunity' T-shirt done up, but that might be a bit much.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (8erNz)
Sign me up.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (8erNz)
Sign me up.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (QzF6i)
Posted by: Sphynx at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (HlXZI)
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201 Ugh, what a waste. Well, glad I only used the CBS free trial for Picard. Show was ok. I'm not going back to it ever.
Posted by: Draki at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (HDwJc)
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I thought it was boring and stupid. And then you start thinking about how it's supposed to be connected to other Star Trek shows.
Posted by: Draki at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (HDwJc)
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I thought it was boring and stupid. And then you start thinking about how it's supposed to be connected to other Star Trek shows.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (LvTSG)
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196 The San Francisco Department of Public Health (SFDPH) confirmed in a tweet Tuesday that homeless people put up in hotels are being given free alcohol and drugs.
Are they also teaching them how to use a toilet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (85Gof)
I'm just wondering how we sign up for one a those San Fran hotels.
Are they also teaching them how to use a toilet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (85Gof)
I'm just wondering how we sign up for one a those San Fran hotels.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (trdmm)
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"Im oversharing my Texas restaurant outings and store and salon visits with my California friends just to hurry their revolt along."
Same, every time I do something normal, even buying toilet paper at the store, I am posting it on FB to pole at the blue state residents.
There are a lot of them that have moved from "Well, they wouldn't shut down the country if this wasn't really a threat?" to "This is over hyped bullshit."
The one thing we have learned the last 4 years is that the Dems are masters at overplaying their hands.
Same, every time I do something normal, even buying toilet paper at the store, I am posting it on FB to pole at the blue state residents.
There are a lot of them that have moved from "Well, they wouldn't shut down the country if this wasn't really a threat?" to "This is over hyped bullshit."
The one thing we have learned the last 4 years is that the Dems are masters at overplaying their hands.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (A beacon of Freedom for the Blue States) at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (5p7BC)
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Thanks, reposted to me FB page, we'll see if it stays up.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (NgKpN)
You're welcome. Another subversive in my church sent it to me this morning. We're plotting a coup.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (NgKpN)
You're welcome. Another subversive in my church sent it to me this morning. We're plotting a coup.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (lwiT4)
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Remember the fake photograph of the illegal alien baby factory running from the river with her kids because the border patrol was "shooting" at them?
Yeah that was a good one, a woman holding the child that wasn't even one of her own and was confusingly almost naked
Yeah that was a good one, a woman holding the child that wasn't even one of her own and was confusingly almost naked
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (KZzsI)
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What? The damn COVID task force is NOT disbanded??? It's staying in business for the foreseeable future?
What? The damn COVID task force is NOT disbanded??? It's staying in business for the foreseeable future?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (SFAhl)
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Dan Rather is the father of this shit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (3H9h1)
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Also too soon for #deathwatchRBG ?
No news is good news right?
Gonna be released today or tomorrow... Will be "working" from home... Meaning her clerks will be writing all her opinions
No news is good news right?
Gonna be released today or tomorrow... Will be "working" from home... Meaning her clerks will be writing all her opinions
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (nF1Vl)
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212 There are a lot of them that have moved from "Well, they wouldn't shut down the country if this wasn't really a threat?" to "This is over hyped bullshit."
The one thing we have learned the last 4 years is that the Dems are masters at overplaying their hands.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (A beacon of Freedom for the Blue States) at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (5p7BC)
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Do these people still care about the Patriot Act being used to suppress the freedoms of minorities?
It seems like it would be easy to turn the Patriot Act around on them for the idea that because the government is doing it, it must be for a good reason.
The one thing we have learned the last 4 years is that the Dems are masters at overplaying their hands.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (A beacon of Freedom for the Blue States) at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (5p7BC)
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Do these people still care about the Patriot Act being used to suppress the freedoms of minorities?
It seems like it would be easy to turn the Patriot Act around on them for the idea that because the government is doing it, it must be for a good reason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (LvTSG)
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Have a link? I'm happy to dick-pic the snitch line.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (hYcqw)
I believe it's a 311 number.
I'm hoping someone tags the new mural of Fauci some prog painted on a building here. The building's owner calls Fauci "the Churchill of our time."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (hYcqw)
I believe it's a 311 number.
I'm hoping someone tags the new mural of Fauci some prog painted on a building here. The building's owner calls Fauci "the Churchill of our time."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (ptqGC)
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It's comforting to know that on the 4th of July,
when we all wave the flag and sing the Star Spangled Banner, that
literally half of the people that surround us would rather live under
tyranny.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (lwiT4)
That's depressing but true
when we all wave the flag and sing the Star Spangled Banner, that
literally half of the people that surround us would rather live under
tyranny.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (lwiT4)
That's depressing but true
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (idLQk)
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You're welcome. Another subversive in my church sent it to me this morning. We're plotting a coup.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (lwiT4)
You need a snazzy beret for the coup!
You're welcome. Another subversive in my church sent it to me this morning. We're plotting a coup.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (lwiT4)
You need a snazzy beret for the coup!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:38 PM (ptqGC)
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>>Why do people hate the concept of masks? Taiwan and Hong Kong knocked this down to zero with the use of masks.
Watch the movie.
https://tinyurl.com/ybo7dzsr
Watch the movie.
https://tinyurl.com/ybo7dzsr
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:38 PM (ZLI7S)
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Is this better, or worse, than using footage of a machine-gun shoot in KY as footage from Syria?
Considerably worse, although minor in the big scheme of things. The Kentucky thing was just sloth "we need a picture and I didn't get a good one" This one is deliberate, staged, intentional fakery like the bottle rocket in the gas tank.
Considerably worse, although minor in the big scheme of things. The Kentucky thing was just sloth "we need a picture and I didn't get a good one" This one is deliberate, staged, intentional fakery like the bottle rocket in the gas tank.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:38 PM (KZzsI)
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Dan Rather is the father of this shit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (3H9h1)
Walter Cronkite: Excuse me?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (3H9h1)
Walter Cronkite: Excuse me?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (idLQk)
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I believe it's a 311 number.
I'm hoping someone tags the new mural of Fauci some prog painted on a building here. The building's owner calls Fauci "the Churchill of our time."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (ptqGC)
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Bummer about the 311 thing. You should dick-pic them.
And what is it with lefties doing big portrait murals? Fauci in your 'hood, Scoldilocks in San Francisco...
I'm hoping someone tags the new mural of Fauci some prog painted on a building here. The building's owner calls Fauci "the Churchill of our time."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (ptqGC)
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Bummer about the 311 thing. You should dick-pic them.
And what is it with lefties doing big portrait murals? Fauci in your 'hood, Scoldilocks in San Francisco...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (hYcqw)
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I greatly disapprove of comparisons of AGW and this bug - there is a key, gigantic difference.
AGW *is a very outlandish, improbable hypothesis for which there is no evidence, not even a framework of testable propositions* - i.e, it almost certainly *doesn't exist, at all*. Leaving aside all the fraud and abandonment of scientific method - i.e., the Lysenkoism.
C-19 definitely exists, it's definitely a public health issue. Entire question is how to deal with it.
Comparing the two lends AGW some respectability - hell, implies that it's even real, as opposed to an outlandish and unproven hypothesis.
AGW *is a very outlandish, improbable hypothesis for which there is no evidence, not even a framework of testable propositions* - i.e, it almost certainly *doesn't exist, at all*. Leaving aside all the fraud and abandonment of scientific method - i.e., the Lysenkoism.
C-19 definitely exists, it's definitely a public health issue. Entire question is how to deal with it.
Comparing the two lends AGW some respectability - hell, implies that it's even real, as opposed to an outlandish and unproven hypothesis.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (El6T/)
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Cherry Health is not a hospital. It is a medical clinic for primarily low income patients that have limited access to health care.
Posted by: Aviator at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (Zls+j)
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"Why did the hospital comply?"
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Why WOULDN'T the hospital comply?
Even if you dismiss any motivation of doing this to hurt Trump, you have nurses and doctors in danger of being furloughed or fired due to lack of business and the non-existent "surge" of covid patients. Of course, they would want to make it look like business is booming if only to justify keeping their jobs.
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Why WOULDN'T the hospital comply?
Even if you dismiss any motivation of doing this to hurt Trump, you have nurses and doctors in danger of being furloughed or fired due to lack of business and the non-existent "surge" of covid patients. Of course, they would want to make it look like business is booming if only to justify keeping their jobs.
Posted by: sweetbagg at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (gJAok)
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158 Our local news in Michigan is only a mouthpiece for our esteemed Governor, but they out did themselves yesterday saying that the western part of our state was showing a high and concerning rate of the Chinese flu virus. So when this story was played on our local talk radio it explained a lot. Since a few lawsuits have been filed against the governor, the local news and the democrat party were busy trying to justify her bizarre behavior.
Posted by: Chillin the most at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (lonOK)
Local news is a joke because at minimum, they are lazy.
In my part of TX, I watch one local affiliate for the weather...for one weather girl in particular who is awesome because for one thing she will answer questions about weather forecasts on her FB page, for another, she does weather forecasts on FB. (And no, it doesn't hurt that, as a bonus, that she is so bloody hot.) But beyond that? The station simply repackages ABC News and other news stories and shows them. Local news? Critical coverage of area governments? No. They are stenographers for local governments.
And local newspapers? They are nothing more than the "community calendar". COMPLETELY uncritical of local government.
Posted by: Chillin the most at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (lonOK)
Local news is a joke because at minimum, they are lazy.
In my part of TX, I watch one local affiliate for the weather...for one weather girl in particular who is awesome because for one thing she will answer questions about weather forecasts on her FB page, for another, she does weather forecasts on FB. (And no, it doesn't hurt that, as a bonus, that she is so bloody hot.) But beyond that? The station simply repackages ABC News and other news stories and shows them. Local news? Critical coverage of area governments? No. They are stenographers for local governments.
And local newspapers? They are nothing more than the "community calendar". COMPLETELY uncritical of local government.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (zqhdn)
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Is it that you think it makes you a subject? I live in Cali and I am infuriated at all this. The news media infuriated me. Fauci infuriated me. But masks are the one thing an independent Free thinking person can do as their part. If we had just done masks from the I think we would be in exactly the same spot we Are in now. Maybe better. But wearing a mask means I am doing the one thing I have control over to help older people. Maybe I am just a slave. Prove me wrong. Give me A good reason for not wearing a mask. (Again, indoors only. Not outdoors.)
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
Reason A: Because I wear glasses and the mask blows my breath up and fogs my glasses up every few seconds and it's annoying as hell to try to walk when I can't see.
Reason B: Because I know I don't have it, and the mask doesn't protect me, and it's only purpose is to virtue signal to everyone else that I'm a good little Drone who Cares and who wants to make them Feel Good. Well I'm not, and I don't.
So I won't wear a mask.
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
Reason A: Because I wear glasses and the mask blows my breath up and fogs my glasses up every few seconds and it's annoying as hell to try to walk when I can't see.
Reason B: Because I know I don't have it, and the mask doesn't protect me, and it's only purpose is to virtue signal to everyone else that I'm a good little Drone who Cares and who wants to make them Feel Good. Well I'm not, and I don't.
So I won't wear a mask.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (trdmm)
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Dan Rather is the father of this shit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (3H9h1)
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Rather is, at best, a third-rate hanger-on. He didn't even win a Pulitzer for his lies.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (3H9h1)
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Rather is, at best, a third-rate hanger-on. He didn't even win a Pulitzer for his lies.
Posted by: Walter Duranty at May 06, 2020 12:40 PM (hYcqw)
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Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
You want to wear a mask fine, but don't make it mandatory for me nor infringe upon my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness by forcing me to stay at home and close my business.
You want to wear a mask fine, but don't make it mandatory for me nor infringe upon my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness by forcing me to stay at home and close my business.
Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2020 12:40 PM (gmo/4)
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I would like to ask a question. Not trying to be a troll.
Why do people hate the concept of masks? Taiwan and Hong Kong knocked this down to zero with the use of masks.
Posted by: Morticus Khan
#1. You do you. I'll do me. Don't fucking tell me what to do. If I think it's that bad, I'll hazmat suit up.
#2. Don't lie to me about this "disease".
Oops. Too late. They already claimed it's as deadly as the Black Death. When in fact, it's less than a bad flu season.
#3. Because of #2, they have lost all moral authority to demand shit.
Why do people hate the concept of masks? Taiwan and Hong Kong knocked this down to zero with the use of masks.
Posted by: Morticus Khan
#1. You do you. I'll do me. Don't fucking tell me what to do. If I think it's that bad, I'll hazmat suit up.
#2. Don't lie to me about this "disease".
Oops. Too late. They already claimed it's as deadly as the Black Death. When in fact, it's less than a bad flu season.
#3. Because of #2, they have lost all moral authority to demand shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:40 PM (At/8G)
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From what I'd seen he is also involved in filing for a patent on a potential vaccine for his master Bill Gates. He's in this up to his beady little eyeballs, which means we're knee deep. Necks need stretching.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 06, 2020 12:28 PM (8B6Ng)
No issued patent or published patent application on the USPTO website lists Fauci as an inventor of anything apart from HIV-related stuff.
Applications are only published 18 months after filing, but if Fauci were an inventor, the US Government would be an assignee.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 06, 2020 12:28 PM (8B6Ng)
No issued patent or published patent application on the USPTO website lists Fauci as an inventor of anything apart from HIV-related stuff.
Applications are only published 18 months after filing, but if Fauci were an inventor, the US Government would be an assignee.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 06, 2020 12:40 PM (ItAg0)
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People are starting to get "that" feeling about this virus. You know- the one where your squeak hole hurts and there's a Fiver on the night stand...
Posted by: Marcus T at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (VpIIl)
A fiver??
What do I get for 10?
Posted by: Marcus T at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (VpIIl)
A fiver??
What do I get for 10?
Posted by: Depression era pricing, today's quality at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (z79tQ)
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>>C-19 definitely exists, it's definitely a public health issue. Entire question is how to deal with it.
>>Comparing the two lends AGW some respectability - hell, implies that it's even real, as opposed to an outlandish and unproven hypothesis.
Yes, it exists. But it only exists because people created it.
The virus is "real". The response is fake.
>>Comparing the two lends AGW some respectability - hell, implies that it's even real, as opposed to an outlandish and unproven hypothesis.
Yes, it exists. But it only exists because people created it.
The virus is "real". The response is fake.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (ZLI7S)
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It seems like it would be easy to turn the Patriot Act around on them for the idea that because the government is doing it, it must be for a good reason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (LvTSG)
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Between the Patriot Act and the bank bailout, GW has a lot to answer for.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (LvTSG)
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Between the Patriot Act and the bank bailout, GW has a lot to answer for.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (WEBkv)
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I guarantee you, CBS said the same thing about the Bush memo.
Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (Eicbe)
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Not wearing a mask is subversive. And I mean to subvert.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (KQ/Al)
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Many years ago, my father witnessed a national news crew working on a report about severe drought conditions. The camera crew needed a good visual, so several cars were driven up and down a dirt road to stir up the "dust storm."
The network? CBS.
The network? CBS.
Posted by: Furious George at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (9vQJW)
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Reason A: Because I wear glasses and the mask blows my breath up and fogs my glasses up every few seconds and it's annoying as hell to try to walk when I can't see.
Reason B: Because I know I don't have it, and the mask doesn't protect me, and it's only purpose is to virtue signal to everyone else that I'm a good little Drone who Cares and who wants to make them Feel Good. Well I'm not, and I don't.
So I won't wear a mask.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (trdmm)
I have N95s, but that's to keep the dust from going down my respiratory tract while working in the job I had previously.
I'll wear one if it benefits ME as such, but other than that? Nah.
Reason B: Because I know I don't have it, and the mask doesn't protect me, and it's only purpose is to virtue signal to everyone else that I'm a good little Drone who Cares and who wants to make them Feel Good. Well I'm not, and I don't.
So I won't wear a mask.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (trdmm)
I have N95s, but that's to keep the dust from going down my respiratory tract while working in the job I had previously.
I'll wear one if it benefits ME as such, but other than that? Nah.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (zqhdn)
Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (OoffT)
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227 Cherry Health is not a hospital. It is a medical clinic for primarily low income patients that have limited access to health care.
Posted by: Aviator at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (Zls+j)
And that matters why? Or are you just clarifying because people are calling it a hospital in the comments? Because it's still being staffed by nurses doctors etc.
227 Cherry Health is not a hospital. It is a medical clinic for primarily low income patients that have limited access to health care.
Posted by: Aviator at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (Zls+j)
And that matters why? Or are you just clarifying because people are calling it a hospital in the comments? Because it's still being staffed by nurses doctors etc.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (7FO5t)
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Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (NkeJ4)
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37 Wu-Brew related: I have been giving considerable thought as to what an appropriate response to my church re-opening, if same is contingent upon mandatory mask-wearing. As of now: I will be a no-show. Something has to end this insanity.
Posted by: Old Dude at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (LGXGf)
Go to church without a mask. Simple.
Posted by: Old Dude at May 06, 2020 12:06 PM (LGXGf)
Go to church without a mask. Simple.
Posted by: Sooner at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (Fs5vw)
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Just think of this photo depiction of the long line as a form of modeling. It's what their producer told them the line would have looked like based on the computerized output.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (Fc5rx)
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Minor quibble, Phillip Glass is a minimalist composer.
I thought he was a comic book villain.
Same thing. Doodly, doodly, doodly, doodly. Repeat for 1 hour.
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Koyaanisqatsi had a doodly, doodly soundtrack by Philip Glass. Worked pretty well for that bit of cinema.
I thought he was a comic book villain.
Same thing. Doodly, doodly, doodly, doodly. Repeat for 1 hour.
_____________________
Koyaanisqatsi had a doodly, doodly soundtrack by Philip Glass. Worked pretty well for that bit of cinema.
Posted by: stumck at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (w9Wax)
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Science has been corrupted by government for decades. Money, power and control.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (ZLI7S)
Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.
In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present
and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite.
The same speech where Eisenhower warned of the Military Industrial Complex.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (ZLI7S)
Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.
In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present
and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite.
The same speech where Eisenhower warned of the Military Industrial Complex.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (NgKpN)
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CNBC - Concerns about the coronavirus are falling in key 2020 swing states, as Democrats have more serious worries about it than Republicans, according to a CNBC/Change Research poll.About two-thirds, or 68%, of likely voters in the election battlegrounds of Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin said they have "very" or "somewhat" serious concerns aboutCovid-19, the States of Play poll found. The share of respondents with major worries about the pandemic dropped from 76% in mid-April.
Oh no comrades, the fear of Flu Manchu is falling. Time to work on those death numbers again
Oh no comrades, the fear of Flu Manchu is falling. Time to work on those death numbers again
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (idLQk)
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Kaiser Wilhelm explains the NYC nursing home deaths.
Tom Elliott@tomselliott
.@NYCMayor De Blasio on nursing homes: "A lot of these are for-profit organizations. I think there's going to be a lot of questions about whether they put their residents first or whether they put profit first"
Tom Elliott@tomselliott
.@NYCMayor De Blasio on nursing homes: "A lot of these are for-profit organizations. I think there's going to be a lot of questions about whether they put their residents first or whether they put profit first"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (+y/Ru)
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237 It seems like it would be easy to turn the Patriot Act around on them for the idea that because the government is doing it, it must be for a good reason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (LvTSG)
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Between the Patriot Act and the bank bailout, GW has a lot to answer for.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (WEBkv)
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Sabranes Oxley!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:37 PM (LvTSG)
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Between the Patriot Act and the bank bailout, GW has a lot to answer for.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (WEBkv)
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Sabranes Oxley!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
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Give me A good reason for not wearing a mask.
I don't think a piece of cloth on my face, ill-fitted and loose around the edges, does anything other than making those around me feel safe. Not BE safe. FEEL safe. Unless someone spits on my lips, I do not think the cloth mask made from Hobby Lobby gingham offers anything but looking like you're compliant.
I don't think a piece of cloth on my face, ill-fitted and loose around the edges, does anything other than making those around me feel safe. Not BE safe. FEEL safe. Unless someone spits on my lips, I do not think the cloth mask made from Hobby Lobby gingham offers anything but looking like you're compliant.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (lwiT4)
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Why do people hate the concept of masks? Taiwan and Hong Kong knocked this down to zero with the use of masks.
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
There's a difference between being asked to wear masks and having some fat donut-munching union cop point his Glock at your head telling you to wear a mask, or else. Because when government makes anything mandatory, it always comes down to the cop and the Glock. Always.
On the bright side, the cop probably hasn't cleaned his pistol in years so he has no real idea if it'll fire when he points it at your dog Spot. On the other hand, Glocks are the AKs of the pistol world, so it'll probably still fire, no matter how much donut icing is caked up in the slide.
Why do people hate the concept of masks? Taiwan and Hong Kong knocked this down to zero with the use of masks.
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
There's a difference between being asked to wear masks and having some fat donut-munching union cop point his Glock at your head telling you to wear a mask, or else. Because when government makes anything mandatory, it always comes down to the cop and the Glock. Always.
On the bright side, the cop probably hasn't cleaned his pistol in years so he has no real idea if it'll fire when he points it at your dog Spot. On the other hand, Glocks are the AKs of the pistol world, so it'll probably still fire, no matter how much donut icing is caked up in the slide.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (EGyGV)
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Gosh, the next thing you know, they've be rear-ending Pinto's and GM trucks to get the gas tanks to blow....
My daughter didn't know why I laughed as a maniac watching Top Secret and the Pinto scene....
My daughter didn't know why I laughed as a maniac watching Top Secret and the Pinto scene....
Posted by: Pinochet Air Tours Flt Attendant at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (UutBm)
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I think some people took my question the wrong way. I highly doubt nurses jumped at the chance to interrupt their work to hang out in their cars gumming up the line for CBS drones. I'm betting admin said "Jenkins, Johnson, and Jones... you're relieved; go sit for the cameras and frown. Maybe dance like monkeys too."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (EQRLd)
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78 >>Follow the money... and ... get in line, hobbits!
Always follow the money.
https://tinyurl.com/ybo7dzsr
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (ZLI7S)
Jeezus Jack...
I hate feeling like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat.
That's a scary video...
Always follow the money.
https://tinyurl.com/ybo7dzsr
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:15 PM (ZLI7S)
Jeezus Jack...
I hate feeling like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat.
That's a scary video...
Posted by: browndog at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (gD6Ka)
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230 Is it that you think it makes you a subject? I live in Cali and I am infuriated at all this. The news media infuriated me. Fauci infuriated me. But masks are the one thing an independent Free thinking person can do as their part. If we had just done masks from the I think we would be in exactly the same spot we Are in now. Maybe better. But wearing a mask means I am doing the one thing I have control over to help older people. Maybe I am just a slave. Prove me wrong. Give me A good reason for not wearing a mask. (Again, indoors only. Not outdoors.)
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
Reason A: Because I wear glasses and the mask blows my breath up and fogs my glasses up every few seconds and it's annoying as hell to try to walk when I can't see.
Reason B: Because I know I don't have it, and the mask doesn't protect me, and it's only purpose is to virtue signal to everyone else that I'm a good little Drone who Cares and who wants to make them Feel Good. Well I'm not, and I don't.
So I won't wear a mask.
Posted by: Tom Servo
I have the same problem with breath fogging up my sunglasses.
Solution? A 2-inch long piece of carefully positioned gaffing tape over the top edge of the mask seals the gap beneath nose and eyes, and prevents the fogging.
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
Reason A: Because I wear glasses and the mask blows my breath up and fogs my glasses up every few seconds and it's annoying as hell to try to walk when I can't see.
Reason B: Because I know I don't have it, and the mask doesn't protect me, and it's only purpose is to virtue signal to everyone else that I'm a good little Drone who Cares and who wants to make them Feel Good. Well I'm not, and I don't.
So I won't wear a mask.
Posted by: Tom Servo
I have the same problem with breath fogging up my sunglasses.
Solution? A 2-inch long piece of carefully positioned gaffing tape over the top edge of the mask seals the gap beneath nose and eyes, and prevents the fogging.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (N9G0H)
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It's comforting to know that on the 4th of July,
when we all wave the flag and sing the Star Spangled Banner, that
literally half of the people that surround us would rather live under
tyranny.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (lwiT4)
Lol
Land of the free!
when we all wave the flag and sing the Star Spangled Banner, that
literally half of the people that surround us would rather live under
tyranny.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:35 PM (lwiT4)
Lol
Land of the free!
Posted by: National Divorce at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (4Q1w7)
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250 Kaiser Wilhelm explains the NYC nursing home deaths.
Tom Elliott@tomselliott
.@NYCMayor De Blasio on nursing homes: "A lot of these are for-profit organizations. I think there's going to be a lot of questions about whether they put their residents first or whether they put profit first"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (+y/Ru)
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Step 1) Bring in a bunch of sick and contagious elderly people.
Step 2) ?
Step 3) Profit!
Tom Elliott@tomselliott
.@NYCMayor De Blasio on nursing homes: "A lot of these are for-profit organizations. I think there's going to be a lot of questions about whether they put their residents first or whether they put profit first"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (+y/Ru)
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Step 1) Bring in a bunch of sick and contagious elderly people.
Step 2) ?
Step 3) Profit!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (LvTSG)
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You're welcome. Another subversive in my church sent it to me this morning. We're plotting a coup.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (lwiT4)
You need a snazzy beret for the coup!
Posted by: Jane D'oh
You need rope and helicopters for a coup.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (lwiT4)
You need a snazzy beret for the coup!
Posted by: Jane D'oh
You need rope and helicopters for a coup.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (At/8G)
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Sup, y'all? I'm on my break.
Posted by: Weasel at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (MVjcR)
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111 What really frightens me is that we could be
literally starving in the streets under a D pres, but the media would be
showing happy people and rainbows 24/7.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (uEbPt)
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For proof see the Obama presidency.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (pw+jk)
When His Majesty The Shahinshah was our ruler from 2009-2017, the national media took and eight year paid vacation.
literally starving in the streets under a D pres, but the media would be
showing happy people and rainbows 24/7.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 12:20 PM (uEbPt)
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For proof see the Obama presidency.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2020 12:21 PM (pw+jk)
When His Majesty The Shahinshah was our ruler from 2009-2017, the national media took and eight year paid vacation.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (zqhdn)
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Minor quibble, Phillip Glass is a minimalist composer.
I thought he was Jan Brady's made up boyfriend
Minor quibble, Phillip Glass is a minimalist composer.
I thought he was Jan Brady's made up boyfriend
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (idLQk)
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Walter Cronkite: Excuse me?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (idLQk)
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I knew it was only a matter of time before "The Most Trusted Man in America" was mentioned.
Good old Uncle Walter.
Walter Cronkite: Excuse me?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (idLQk)
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I knew it was only a matter of time before "The Most Trusted Man in America" was mentioned.
Good old Uncle Walter.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (WEBkv)
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As I noted yesterday, do we yet have a bill in Congress to take back the MRAPs and other federally-provided hardware from donut-encrusted counties that are clearly misusing them?
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:44 PM (8erNz)
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You need rope and helicopters for a coup.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (At/8G)
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The snazzy beret is for flying the helicopters.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (At/8G)
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The snazzy beret is for flying the helicopters.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 12:44 PM (WEBkv)
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I think I watched that one this morning. Called "Plandemic". Talked about Fauci's sketchy past in relation to the corona. Featured a scientist he set out to discredit. Is that the one?
I think I might find it on Vimeo. Let me look.....
Posted by: grammie winger
Yes, we watched it last night.
Somewhat scary, in terms of how we have likely been deceived.
I thought it was telling that Fauci said the other day that the virus didn't come out of a lab.
Fauci, who authorized millions of US dollars be sent there, who had to know what was going on.
To be precisely true, the virus was not "invented" in a lab, but likely modified to make it infectious to humans.
And yet another effort to discredit Trump and Pompeo based on Pompeo's statement as SoS about the evidence pointing to this coming out of the Wuhan lab.
I think I might find it on Vimeo. Let me look.....
Posted by: grammie winger
Yes, we watched it last night.
Somewhat scary, in terms of how we have likely been deceived.
I thought it was telling that Fauci said the other day that the virus didn't come out of a lab.
Fauci, who authorized millions of US dollars be sent there, who had to know what was going on.
To be precisely true, the virus was not "invented" in a lab, but likely modified to make it infectious to humans.
And yet another effort to discredit Trump and Pompeo based on Pompeo's statement as SoS about the evidence pointing to this coming out of the Wuhan lab.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 06, 2020 12:45 PM (vcOmj)
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Reason B: Because I know I don't have it, and the mask doesn't protect me, and it's only purpose is to virtue signal to everyone else that I'm a good little Drone who Cares and who wants to make them Feel Good. Well I'm not, and I don't.
So I won't wear a mask.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Actually, the whole point is that (in theory) it DOES protect you. Not 100%, but it can and does filter out mucus droplets in the air. Going both ways -- from your mouth outward, but also from the atmosphere going inward.
Again, it's no a guarantee that some virus might not sneak in around the edges, but it helps some percentage.
So I won't wear a mask.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Actually, the whole point is that (in theory) it DOES protect you. Not 100%, but it can and does filter out mucus droplets in the air. Going both ways -- from your mouth outward, but also from the atmosphere going inward.
Again, it's no a guarantee that some virus might not sneak in around the edges, but it helps some percentage.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:45 PM (N9G0H)
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C-19 definitely exists, it's definitely a public health issue. Entire question is how to deal with it.
Comparing the two lends AGW some respectability - hell, implies that it's even real, as opposed to an outlandish and unproven hypothesis.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (El6T/)
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C-19 is totally a real virus.
C-19 the Big Threat is *at this point* a Big Hoax.
Keep it out of nursing homes and away from your grannie.
You're going to catch it, if you haven't already been through it.
Comparing the two lends AGW some respectability - hell, implies that it's even real, as opposed to an outlandish and unproven hypothesis.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (El6T/)
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C-19 is totally a real virus.
C-19 the Big Threat is *at this point* a Big Hoax.
Keep it out of nursing homes and away from your grannie.
You're going to catch it, if you haven't already been through it.
Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 12:45 PM (Eicbe)
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233 I would like to ask a question. Not trying to be a troll.
Why do people hate the concept of masks? Taiwan and Hong Kong knocked this down to zero with the use of masks.
Posted by: Morticus Khan
What's the population density of Hong Kong and Taiwan? What their primary mode of transportation? What's the population density of some rural Midwest county and why should what Taiwan do be the standard for them?
Why do people hate the concept of masks? Taiwan and Hong Kong knocked this down to zero with the use of masks.
Posted by: Morticus Khan
What's the population density of Hong Kong and Taiwan? What their primary mode of transportation? What's the population density of some rural Midwest county and why should what Taiwan do be the standard for them?
Posted by: Buzzion at May 06, 2020 12:45 PM (7FO5t)
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I knew it was only a matter of time before "The Most Trusted Man in America" was mentioned.
Good old Uncle Walter.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (WEBkv)
Archie Bunker called him pinko Cronkite and that supposed to be a laugh line but it was true
Good old Uncle Walter.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (WEBkv)
Archie Bunker called him pinko Cronkite and that supposed to be a laugh line but it was true
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 12:45 PM (idLQk)
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Tom Elliott@tomselliott
@NYCMayor De Blasio on nursing homes: "A lot of these are for-profit organizations. I think there's going to be a lot of questions about whether they put their residents first or whether they put profit first"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (+y/Ru)
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We are breaking up the vicious tyranny of economic power. We will set men free of the rule of the dollar. We will release our spiritual aims from dependence on the owners of material means. We will liberate our culture from the stranglehold of the profit-chasers. We will build a society dedicated to higher ideals
--James Taggart in Altas Shrugged Mayor DeBlasio
@NYCMayor De Blasio on nursing homes: "A lot of these are for-profit organizations. I think there's going to be a lot of questions about whether they put their residents first or whether they put profit first"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (+y/Ru)
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We are breaking up the vicious tyranny of economic power. We will set men free of the rule of the dollar. We will release our spiritual aims from dependence on the owners of material means. We will liberate our culture from the stranglehold of the profit-chasers. We will build a society dedicated to higher ideals
--
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:45 PM (hYcqw)
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>>@NYCMayor De Blasio on nursing homes: "A lot of these are for-profit organizations. I think there's going to be a lot of questions about whether they put their residents first or whether they put profit first"
Shorter de Blahblah: "Sue the nursing home, not the city, OK?"
Shorter de Blahblah: "Sue the nursing home, not the city, OK?"
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 12:45 PM (bDqIh)
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Go to church without a mask. Simple.
______________________
*Let him who is without mask cast the first loogie at her*
(John 8:7, St. James Comey Version)
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*Let him who is without mask cast the first loogie at her*
(John 8:7, St. James Comey Version)
Posted by: stumck at May 06, 2020 12:45 PM (w9Wax)
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I do not think the cloth mask made from Hobby Lobby gingham offers anything but looking like you're compliant.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (lwiT4)
That is exactly it. A signal to the authorities you are compliant and you will do what you are told what to do.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (lwiT4)
That is exactly it. A signal to the authorities you are compliant and you will do what you are told what to do.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (00CEy)
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Again, it's no a guarantee that some virus might not sneak in around the edges, but it helps some percentage.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:45 PM (N9G0H)
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And since viral load is apparently an important factor in actually getting the sickness as well as how bad the sickness gets, yeah, even paper towels over your mouth will do something.
Again, it's no a guarantee that some virus might not sneak in around the edges, but it helps some percentage.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:45 PM (N9G0H)
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And since viral load is apparently an important factor in actually getting the sickness as well as how bad the sickness gets, yeah, even paper towels over your mouth will do something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (LvTSG)
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>>Jeezus Jack...
>>I hate feeling like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat.
>>That's a scary video...
I've watched about 6 times since I came across it yesterday. I've known for years that US funding of science and overseas aid is a sewer of corruption but that video helps put it in graphic terms.
And remember, the Clinton Global Initiative was making huge amounts of money using government money, ours and foreign governments, siphoning foreign medical aid.
If he wins, we all hang.
>>I hate feeling like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat.
>>That's a scary video...
I've watched about 6 times since I came across it yesterday. I've known for years that US funding of science and overseas aid is a sewer of corruption but that video helps put it in graphic terms.
And remember, the Clinton Global Initiative was making huge amounts of money using government money, ours and foreign governments, siphoning foreign medical aid.
If he wins, we all hang.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)
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When the local talk radio did this story they had James O Keene on. He said CBS admitted it on paper and he will gladly publish it, but that CBS said the whole idea was from Cherry Health! Our governor is so corrupt that it would be surprising if this surprised her!
Posted by: Chillin the most at May 06, 2020 12:47 PM (lonOK)
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I'm just wondering how we sign up for one a those San Fran hotels.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (trdmm)
The fact Newsom is allocating $75M for illegals absolutely chafes my ass. And you know it's all coming from the federal relief. So, we continue to give the federal workers their pensions, the bums get to live it up in the fairmont, illegals have yet one more freebie, and I'm trying to figure out how to make my mortgage payments and keep my mother in assisted living at almost $5k/mo with no fekking job.
I can only hope some of this is sinking into the brains of the idiots in this once great state, but I'm not so sure it is. In the meantime, it really doesn't matter, because the dems have imported and paid off an entire population of needy, skill-free voters.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:36 PM (trdmm)
The fact Newsom is allocating $75M for illegals absolutely chafes my ass. And you know it's all coming from the federal relief. So, we continue to give the federal workers their pensions, the bums get to live it up in the fairmont, illegals have yet one more freebie, and I'm trying to figure out how to make my mortgage payments and keep my mother in assisted living at almost $5k/mo with no fekking job.
I can only hope some of this is sinking into the brains of the idiots in this once great state, but I'm not so sure it is. In the meantime, it really doesn't matter, because the dems have imported and paid off an entire population of needy, skill-free voters.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 06, 2020 12:47 PM (8B6Ng)
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When will we be free from a criminal media?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 06, 2020 12:48 PM (Uu+Jp)
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I do fluid dynamics in real life, and the physics
all support masks reducing the spread.
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
What sized particles are you modelling? Because the bullshit model that many officials used was crap. They modeled tiny droplets...much smaller than in real life.
How about if you put a governor on your car? It will limit top speed to 45mph, and that is guaranteed to save lives. Oh, and an interlock so you can't drive without a safety belt.
If you are high risk...stay home.
all support masks reducing the spread.
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
What sized particles are you modelling? Because the bullshit model that many officials used was crap. They modeled tiny droplets...much smaller than in real life.
How about if you put a governor on your car? It will limit top speed to 45mph, and that is guaranteed to save lives. Oh, and an interlock so you can't drive without a safety belt.
If you are high risk...stay home.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 06, 2020 12:48 PM (dLLD6)
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it's only purpose is to virtue signal to everyone else that I'm a good little Drone who Cares and who wants to make them Feel Good. Well I'm not, and I don't.
So I won't wear a mask.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I'm okay with being a compliant citizen. But I won't put up with the farce that Dem governors haven't totally invalidated the stated purpose of the lock-down and masquerade ball. They shoved Covid-positive patients into nursing homes.
They INVALIDATED the entire shared purpose for all this. And continue to threaten "YOU'RE KILLING PEOPLE!" while they kill old folks, directly.
There is no bottom to having Dems run any level of government.
So I won't wear a mask.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I'm okay with being a compliant citizen. But I won't put up with the farce that Dem governors haven't totally invalidated the stated purpose of the lock-down and masquerade ball. They shoved Covid-positive patients into nursing homes.
They INVALIDATED the entire shared purpose for all this. And continue to threaten "YOU'RE KILLING PEOPLE!" while they kill old folks, directly.
There is no bottom to having Dems run any level of government.
Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 12:48 PM (Eicbe)
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I suppose one positive here is that these fuckwads are being exposed pretty quickly when they pull their shit. Remember years ago when 60 Minutes did a fraudulent, union-sponsored hatchet job on Food Lion? It was months or years before the truth came out. It appears those days are over.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 06, 2020 12:48 PM (sWM8x)
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https://washex.am/3dklm5h
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Byron York's Daily Memo: EXCLUSIVE - DNI to Schiff: The transcripts are ready to release
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Story to the tweet about Grenell
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Byron York's Daily Memo: EXCLUSIVE - DNI to Schiff: The transcripts are ready to release
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Story to the tweet about Grenell
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 06, 2020 12:48 PM (Lrula)
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I have the same problem with breath fogging up my sunglasses.
Solution? A 2-inch long piece of carefully positioned gaffing tape over the top edge of the mask seals the gap beneath nose and eyes, and prevents the fogging.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (N9G0H)
Telling the people who want me to wear a mask to FOAD is a lot more satisfying.
Solution? A 2-inch long piece of carefully positioned gaffing tape over the top edge of the mask seals the gap beneath nose and eyes, and prevents the fogging.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (N9G0H)
Telling the people who want me to wear a mask to FOAD is a lot more satisfying.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:48 PM (trdmm)
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How many Americans truly understand the requirements for mask hygiene? How many Americans re-use their cotton masks? Dental hygienists toss out their disposable masks between patients. N95 masks and filters have to be disinfected every day (I'd trade out a mask every eight hours). I have no doubt whatsoever that when this crapshow is over, far more people will be treated for respiratory problems related to improper use of face masks than the number of people who avoided Wuhan Flu by wearing a mask.
Posted by: mrp at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (Pqytn)
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Applications are only published 18 months after filing, but if Fauci were an inventor, the US Government would be an assignee.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 06, 2020 12:40 PM (ItAg0)
The government rights to patents for inventions developed under federally sponsored R&D at universities, nonprofit organizations and small business organizations are determined in accordance with the terms of the funding agreement. Prior to 1980, the patent rights clauses used in a funding agreement were determined by the legislation and policy of the agency involved. Some agencies kept title, and others gave title. In 1980, the Congress passed an act to provide uniformity among the various government agencies. More importantly, this act was passed so that universities, nonprofit organizations and small business organizations could more easily obtain title to patents developed with federal funding.
In accordance with the act, all funding agreements with such organizations must give the organization the right to obtain title to any invention that is conceived or first reduced to practice in performance of work under the funding agreement. There are several exceptions to this requirement, such as inventions made during the operation of a government- owned facility or if the organization is not located in the U.S.
From a legal website on patent law.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 06, 2020 12:40 PM (ItAg0)
The government rights to patents for inventions developed under federally sponsored R&D at universities, nonprofit organizations and small business organizations are determined in accordance with the terms of the funding agreement. Prior to 1980, the patent rights clauses used in a funding agreement were determined by the legislation and policy of the agency involved. Some agencies kept title, and others gave title. In 1980, the Congress passed an act to provide uniformity among the various government agencies. More importantly, this act was passed so that universities, nonprofit organizations and small business organizations could more easily obtain title to patents developed with federal funding.
In accordance with the act, all funding agreements with such organizations must give the organization the right to obtain title to any invention that is conceived or first reduced to practice in performance of work under the funding agreement. There are several exceptions to this requirement, such as inventions made during the operation of a government- owned facility or if the organization is not located in the U.S.
From a legal website on patent law.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (NgKpN)
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Why do people hate the concept of masks? Taiwan and Hong Kong knocked this down to zero with the use of masks.
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
If you have spent any time in Asia whatsoever you would understand people VOLUNTARILY wear them, even in normal times. It's a little weird at first but you get used to seeing them after awhile. The reason for this is that they don't want to get YOU sick. (Set aside whether or not this is effective or not; but that's why it's done.)
The problem I have is with the application of FORCE. Nobody has any business telling me what to wear when I leave the house.
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
If you have spent any time in Asia whatsoever you would understand people VOLUNTARILY wear them, even in normal times. It's a little weird at first but you get used to seeing them after awhile. The reason for this is that they don't want to get YOU sick. (Set aside whether or not this is effective or not; but that's why it's done.)
The problem I have is with the application of FORCE. Nobody has any business telling me what to wear when I leave the house.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (zqhdn)
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God bless Project Veritas.
Posted by: Emmie at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (ouBhA)
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How about if you put a governor on your car?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 06, 2020 12:48 PM (dLLD6)
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I would gladly strap Gretchen onto my car.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 06, 2020 12:48 PM (dLLD6)
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I would gladly strap Gretchen onto my car.
Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (Eicbe)
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Sabranes Oxley!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
I didn't know anyone else smoked those.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
I didn't know anyone else smoked those.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (t+qrx)
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Its not a coincidence that Fauci's agency funded the Wuhan lab that let this crud out that killed so many Chinese people. Why we're funding our enemy is baffling to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (KZzsI)
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Well, I'm glad that's over.
Pelosi Declares Allegations Against Joe Biden 'Closed,' Says She Wouldn't Answer Questions About Them Again
Pelosi Declares Allegations Against Joe Biden 'Closed,' Says She Wouldn't Answer Questions About Them Again
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (+y/Ru)
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280 When will we be free from a criminal media?
Posted by: Northernlurker
__________
Why is everyone looking at me?
Posted by: Northernlurker
__________
Why is everyone looking at me?
Posted by: Yellowstone Caldera at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (9vQJW)
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292 Its not a coincidence that Fauci's agency funded the Wuhan lab that let this crud out that killed so many Chinese people. Why we're funding our enemy is baffling to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (KZzsI)
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So Hollywood can flop movies in China.
It's for America.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (KZzsI)
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So Hollywood can flop movies in China.
It's for America.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:50 PM (LvTSG)
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the I think we would be in exactly the same spot we
Are in now. Maybe better. But wearing a mask means I am doing the one
thing I have control over to help older people. Maybe I am just a
slave. Prove me wrong. Give me A good reason for not wearing a mask.
(Again, indoors only. Not outdoors.)
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
I don't believe one word about masks being effective. Maybe the fancy ones they wear in hospitals but putting on a bandana to walk into a store does not make you more safe. If I don;t have a cold, am not sneezing, coughing , how am I sending drops of moisture into the air. Originally they said 3 feet apart was good and all of a sudden that morphed into 6 feet and yet there is no proof that exposure out of doors is actually infectious. It is people in situations where they cannot go outdorrs such as nursing homes where the reate of infections is unchecked.
My greatest fear is that because I am in that age range, I am going to be forced to wear a mask, be socially isolated even though perfectly healthy due to a virus that is weakening every day. When I lost kmy husband two years ago, I never contemplated that I wouldn;t be able to touch another human being for months on end, You know, you cannot see people's facial expressions when they are wearing a mask so I now I don;t even get to see a smiling face when I am out shopping.I will not Submit.
Are in now. Maybe better. But wearing a mask means I am doing the one
thing I have control over to help older people. Maybe I am just a
slave. Prove me wrong. Give me A good reason for not wearing a mask.
(Again, indoors only. Not outdoors.)
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 12:34 PM (KRbuA)
I don't believe one word about masks being effective. Maybe the fancy ones they wear in hospitals but putting on a bandana to walk into a store does not make you more safe. If I don;t have a cold, am not sneezing, coughing , how am I sending drops of moisture into the air. Originally they said 3 feet apart was good and all of a sudden that morphed into 6 feet and yet there is no proof that exposure out of doors is actually infectious. It is people in situations where they cannot go outdorrs such as nursing homes where the reate of infections is unchecked.
My greatest fear is that because I am in that age range, I am going to be forced to wear a mask, be socially isolated even though perfectly healthy due to a virus that is weakening every day. When I lost kmy husband two years ago, I never contemplated that I wouldn;t be able to touch another human being for months on end, You know, you cannot see people's facial expressions when they are wearing a mask so I now I don;t even get to see a smiling face when I am out shopping.I will not Submit.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 06, 2020 12:50 PM (QzF6i)
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Really sad that I missed this morning's who dis- because according to family rumors of my somewhat scandalous great grandmother - he is our great grandpa.
Posted by: justasheep at May 06, 2020 12:50 PM (L9Eia)
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I do fluid dynamics in real life, and the physics
all support masks reducing the spread.
Yes, but there's not a lot of science supporting the idea that virii spread well or very often in that method.
all support masks reducing the spread.
Yes, but there's not a lot of science supporting the idea that virii spread well or very often in that method.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:50 PM (KZzsI)
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293 Well, I'm glad that's over.
Pelosi Declares Allegations Against Joe Biden 'Closed,' Says She Wouldn't Answer Questions About Them Again
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (+y/Ru)
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Alright, Trump team. Time to release the next accuser.
Pelosi Declares Allegations Against Joe Biden 'Closed,' Says She Wouldn't Answer Questions About Them Again
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (+y/Ru)
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Alright, Trump team. Time to release the next accuser.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:50 PM (LvTSG)
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Masks aren't going to do shit.
There is no population on earth that habitually uses masks more than Asian cultures.
If masks actually worked in any material way then the incidences of sickness would be lower.
Plot twist:
They're not.
This is all one gigantic scam.
There is no population on earth that habitually uses masks more than Asian cultures.
If masks actually worked in any material way then the incidences of sickness would be lower.
Plot twist:
They're not.
This is all one gigantic scam.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 06, 2020 12:51 PM (NkeJ4)
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Proverbs 3:5
Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2020 12:51 PM (gmo/4)
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If one of Trump's minions is monitoring this thread, let me alert you to --
VOA News. Funded by the US gubmint, and 100% anti-Trump.
Be better, Trump. Shut these motherfuckers off. Make it an unconditional part of whatever next deal you make with the House, Malig-Nancy presiding.
VOA is even worse than NPR.
VOA News. Funded by the US gubmint, and 100% anti-Trump.
Be better, Trump. Shut these motherfuckers off. Make it an unconditional part of whatever next deal you make with the House, Malig-Nancy presiding.
VOA is even worse than NPR.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2020 12:51 PM (Z4rgH)
Posted by: Methos at May 06, 2020 12:51 PM (kOpft)
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Looking at the actual "curves," this ridiculous panic is really going to subside soon. We are way past the "peak", and the number are going down, down down. Even lefties are getting sick and tired of the fascist rules they imposed on everyone else. When I went to the regional park the other day, the parking lot was OVERFLOWING with cars -- all sporting "Bernie" and "Warren 2020" and "Mayor Pete" bumperstickers. Got tot he trails, and they were elbow-to-elbow with hikers, walkers and joggers. 95% were not wearing masks, despite Gavin Newsom's "law" that we must all do so, and despite these asshole hikers all being pro-lockdown.
When you've lost your base, you know the game is over.
I predict that in about two weeks the whole country (aside from maybe NY and NJ) will just say "Fuck it," and emerge from their caves en masse.
When you've lost your base, you know the game is over.
I predict that in about two weeks the whole country (aside from maybe NY and NJ) will just say "Fuck it," and emerge from their caves en masse.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:51 PM (N9G0H)
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Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (zqhdn)
They do wear them when they are sick but they wear them mostly because of the air quality warnings.
They do wear them when they are sick but they wear them mostly because of the air quality warnings.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (2DOZq)
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The state I really don't get is Nevada.
One would think even a Democrat governor would understand killing the casino industry kills the tax revenue Nevada relies on to survive.
Yet, he refuses to allow casinos and hotels to get on with the business of reopening.
I'm really surprised the legislature hasn't gotten together and told him to pound sand.
One would think even a Democrat governor would understand killing the casino industry kills the tax revenue Nevada relies on to survive.
Yet, he refuses to allow casinos and hotels to get on with the business of reopening.
I'm really surprised the legislature hasn't gotten together and told him to pound sand.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (WEBkv)
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one of the Big Lies going around concerning the Masks concerns Asymptomatic Carriers.
Asymptomatic Carriers do NOT go around shedding the virus; that's why they're asymptomatic. other than a slight amount which is enough to test positive, it never develops in their lungs at all.
Asymptomatic Carriers do NOT go around shedding the virus; that's why they're asymptomatic. other than a slight amount which is enough to test positive, it never develops in their lungs at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (trdmm)
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It's frightenting, the picture over at Project Veritas's site with O'Keefe putting on a bulletproof vest.
Of course he has to.
The left.
It's frightenting, the picture over at Project Veritas's site with O'Keefe putting on a bulletproof vest.
Of course he has to.
The left.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Volkoff Industries at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (DB16e)
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I am going to wear a mask in just about half an hour. My choice. We are going to visit an elderly lady in our congregation to see how she is doing and to pray with her. She will feel more comfortable if we are wearing masks, so wear them we will, as we would cause her stress otherwise. Our choice.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (lwiT4)
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227 Cherry Health is not a hospital. It is a medical clinic for primarily low income patients that have limited access to health care.
Posted by: Aviator at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (Zls+j)
So they can only go there when they are healthy?
(For "health care" I hit my nearest New Balance store. But that's just me.)
Posted by: Aviator at May 06, 2020 12:39 PM (Zls+j)
So they can only go there when they are healthy?
(For "health care" I hit my nearest New Balance store. But that's just me.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (zqhdn)
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I've watched about 6 times since I came across it yesterday. I've known for years that US funding of science and overseas aid is a sewer of corruption but that video helps put it in graphic terms.
And remember, the Clinton Global Initiative was making huge amounts of money using government money, ours and foreign governments, siphoning foreign medical aid.
If he wins, we all hang.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)
This really is 3 Days of The Condor type shit here.
Where did honor and integrity go. This is extremely depressing to think about.
How does one fight this type of sociopathic behavior that seems to run so deep in the bureaucracy and our elected officials.
Fvck the 3 Days analogy, this is Rollerball territory.
And remember, the Clinton Global Initiative was making huge amounts of money using government money, ours and foreign governments, siphoning foreign medical aid.
If he wins, we all hang.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)
This really is 3 Days of The Condor type shit here.
Where did honor and integrity go. This is extremely depressing to think about.
How does one fight this type of sociopathic behavior that seems to run so deep in the bureaucracy and our elected officials.
Fvck the 3 Days analogy, this is Rollerball territory.
Posted by: browndog at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (gD6Ka)
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And since viral load is apparently an important factor in actually getting the sickness as well as how bad the sickness gets, yeah, even paper towels over your mouth will do something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (LvTSG)
I've seen that before but it really does not make any sense to me. From what little I know of biology I thought that if just one virus (of any sort) got in and your immune system allowed it to reproduce then you are going to get the disease until your immune system can fight it off or you die. The only thing I can think of where the load would matter is if your body can fight off a few but not many. If that is the case then would not everybody die that gets infected?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (LvTSG)
I've seen that before but it really does not make any sense to me. From what little I know of biology I thought that if just one virus (of any sort) got in and your immune system allowed it to reproduce then you are going to get the disease until your immune system can fight it off or you die. The only thing I can think of where the load would matter is if your body can fight off a few but not many. If that is the case then would not everybody die that gets infected?
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (00CEy)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (8fB/R)
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Ace, stop calling Biden "Stinkyfingers." That's offensive to Tara Reade and all women.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Hydroxy Chloro Queen and Bat Soup Nazi at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (rCwaK)
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I don't believe one word about masks being effective.
Maybe the fancy ones they wear in hospitals but putting on a bandana to walk into a store does not make you more safe.
A tennis shoe or a maxi-pad with wings sure and the hell won't.
Maybe the fancy ones they wear in hospitals but putting on a bandana to walk into a store does not make you more safe.
A tennis shoe or a maxi-pad with wings sure and the hell won't.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (At/8G)
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Masks probably do help in the outbound direction (e.g., if you are infected and asymptomatic, it helps keep your germs to yourself). I wear a mask when I feel a bit unwell but have to go to work, so that I don't share with my colleagues.
From this standpoint, wearing a mask is reasonably if you have any suspicion of infection. If you don't, it's probably pointless.
From this standpoint, wearing a mask is reasonably if you have any suspicion of infection. If you don't, it's probably pointless.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (hYcqw)
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Why is everyone looking at me?
Posted by: Yellowstone Caldera at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (9vQJW)
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Because you and SMOD have been derelict in your duty.
Posted by: Yellowstone Caldera at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (9vQJW)
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Because you and SMOD have been derelict in your duty.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (WEBkv)
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313 And since viral load is apparently an important factor in actually getting the sickness as well as how bad the sickness gets, yeah, even paper towels over your mouth will do something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (LvTSG)
I've seen that before but it really does not make any sense to me. From what little I know of biology I thought that if just one virus (of any sort) got in and your immune system allowed it to reproduce then you are going to get the disease until your immune system can fight it off or you die. The only thing I can think of where the load would matter is if your body can fight off a few but not many. If that is the case then would not everybody die that gets infected?
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (00CEy)
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Not every individual virus will succeed at latching.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (LvTSG)
I've seen that before but it really does not make any sense to me. From what little I know of biology I thought that if just one virus (of any sort) got in and your immune system allowed it to reproduce then you are going to get the disease until your immune system can fight it off or you die. The only thing I can think of where the load would matter is if your body can fight off a few but not many. If that is the case then would not everybody die that gets infected?
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (00CEy)
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Not every individual virus will succeed at latching.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (LvTSG)
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Fauci's last patent filing first published in 2008.
Fauci's last patent filing first published in 2008.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (mht8P)
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I just saw a PSA on CBS yesterday regarding protecting First Amendment rights. I immediately thought of Sharyl Atkinson and laughed. Now this comes out today! I try to stay away from the news as much as possible, but it's very difficult if one wants to keep up with current events. If I watch too much I end up angry because it's very easy to see the nuance and outright lies they tell us almost daily and I feel powerless to call them on it and make them fix it, so I turn it off.
Posted by: Bill R. at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (wzzJf)
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Ace, stop calling Biden "Stinkyfingers." That's offensive to Tara Reade and all women.
Posted by: Miley
Yeah. Call him Tuna Boat.
Posted by: Miley
Yeah. Call him Tuna Boat.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (At/8G)
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285 I have the same problem with breath fogging up my sunglasses.
Solution? A 2-inch long piece of carefully positioned gaffing tape over the top edge of the mask seals the gap beneath nose and eyes, and prevents the fogging.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (N9G0H)
Telling the people who want me to wear a mask to FOAD is a lot more satisfying.
Posted by: Tom Servo
True.
But as I note in comment #304, I think it will all be a moot point in about two weeks at most.
Solution? A 2-inch long piece of carefully positioned gaffing tape over the top edge of the mask seals the gap beneath nose and eyes, and prevents the fogging.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:42 PM (N9G0H)
Telling the people who want me to wear a mask to FOAD is a lot more satisfying.
Posted by: Tom Servo
True.
But as I note in comment #304, I think it will all be a moot point in about two weeks at most.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (N9G0H)
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Sabranes Oxley!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
I didn't know anyone else smoked those.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (t+qrx)
They are a bit harder to handroll.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
I didn't know anyone else smoked those.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 06, 2020 12:49 PM (t+qrx)
They are a bit harder to handroll.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (Z4rgH)
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Byron York's Daily Memo: EXCLUSIVE - DNI to Schiff: The transcripts are ready to release
*********
Story to the tweet about Grenell
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 06, 2020 12:48 PM (Lrula)
Grassley was holding up the approval of a Trump nominee in order to get this stuff declassified.
For two years.
Someone explain this to me.
*********
Story to the tweet about Grenell
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 06, 2020 12:48 PM (Lrula)
Grassley was holding up the approval of a Trump nominee in order to get this stuff declassified.
For two years.
Someone explain this to me.
Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (uEbPt)
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Fvck the 3 Days analogy, this is Rollerball territory.
Promise?
'Cause there are some motherfuckers I REALLY want to bocce ball in the nuts...
Promise?
'Cause there are some motherfuckers I REALLY want to bocce ball in the nuts...
Posted by: Ped Xing at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (d6DSt)
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159
Our local beach will allow chairs and umbrellas beginning tomorrow. FREEDOM!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (ptqGC)
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Celebrate real FREEDOM by going topless. Pics expected ...
Our local beach will allow chairs and umbrellas beginning tomorrow. FREEDOM!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (ptqGC)
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Celebrate real FREEDOM by going topless. Pics expected ...
Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 12:54 PM (AhPpx)
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Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (2DOZq)
306 The state I really don't get is Nevada.
One would think even a Democrat governor would understand killing the casino industry kills the tax revenue Nevada relies on to survive.
Harry Reid helped set up a machine based on the Unions which cemented Dem control over Nevada. Now they are all locked in to following the Dem Line.
I agree they are making a terrible mistake, and they are going to pay a terrible price - for all intents and purposes, Las Vegas is going to die, and a large amount of the population will leave. Without the lure of casino based tourism, there's no good reason for a city of any size to be there.
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
306 The state I really don't get is Nevada.
One would think even a Democrat governor would understand killing the casino industry kills the tax revenue Nevada relies on to survive.
Harry Reid helped set up a machine based on the Unions which cemented Dem control over Nevada. Now they are all locked in to following the Dem Line.
I agree they are making a terrible mistake, and they are going to pay a terrible price - for all intents and purposes, Las Vegas is going to die, and a large amount of the population will leave. Without the lure of casino based tourism, there's no good reason for a city of any size to be there.
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:55 PM (trdmm)
330
When will we be free from a criminal media?
Posted by: Northernlurker
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Never.
In my dalliance with believing in nothing, part of what I doubted was what I used to hear about abortion lessening the value of life. I adopted the "skepticism" of currency.
When I adopted a faith, I again saw the case that abortion damages the value of life, however, I realized that was an unsolvable problem. The people you need to reach have already had their value of life fashionably degraded.
The people who have embraced the progressive Will to Power, have aligned their purpose in life around the ascension to this power. You can't be free of somebody who shares no basic common ground, and any common ground they profess is part of a con game.
So much that they have embraced is definitionally disingenuous at the start.
Posted by: Northernlurker
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Never.
In my dalliance with believing in nothing, part of what I doubted was what I used to hear about abortion lessening the value of life. I adopted the "skepticism" of currency.
When I adopted a faith, I again saw the case that abortion damages the value of life, however, I realized that was an unsolvable problem. The people you need to reach have already had their value of life fashionably degraded.
The people who have embraced the progressive Will to Power, have aligned their purpose in life around the ascension to this power. You can't be free of somebody who shares no basic common ground, and any common ground they profess is part of a con game.
So much that they have embraced is definitionally disingenuous at the start.
Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 12:55 PM (Eicbe)
331
How does one fight this type of sociopathic behavior that seems to run so deep in the bureaucracy and our elected officials.
Fvck the 3 Days analogy, this is Rollerball territory.
Posted by: browndog at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (gD6Ka)
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"Rein of Terror" comes to mind.
No, I don't want this to happen.
But, if things go sideways, it is what I expect.
Fvck the 3 Days analogy, this is Rollerball territory.
Posted by: browndog at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (gD6Ka)
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"Rein of Terror" comes to mind.
No, I don't want this to happen.
But, if things go sideways, it is what I expect.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 12:55 PM (WEBkv)
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>> And that matters why? Or are you just clarifying because people are calling it a hospital in the comments? Because it's still being staffed by nurses doctors etc.
Posted by: Buzzion
I'm clarifying it's not a hospital.
Ever been around a community care type clinic? The entire staff is generally raging liberals. Of course they participated in the scam.
Posted by: Buzzion
I'm clarifying it's not a hospital.
Ever been around a community care type clinic? The entire staff is generally raging liberals. Of course they participated in the scam.
Posted by: Aviator at May 06, 2020 12:56 PM (Zls+j)
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They do wear them when they are sick but they wear them mostly because of the air quality warnings.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (2DOZq)
I have never, ever seen worse air pollution than the time I visited Beijing. The smog was so bad I could barely see the hand in front of my face.
They do wear them when they are sick but they wear them mostly because of the air quality warnings.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (2DOZq)
I have never, ever seen worse air pollution than the time I visited Beijing. The smog was so bad I could barely see the hand in front of my face.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:56 PM (zqhdn)
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Lie of omission. The virus didn't come from a lab.
The virus came from an animal that was released from the lab after they put the virus in it. So the virus did not come from the lab.
The virus came from an animal that was released from the lab after they put the virus in it. So the virus did not come from the lab.
Posted by: ... at May 06, 2020 12:56 PM (uEbPt)
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You can find a map online that shows the rate of NYC Virus cases by zip code. Many of the highest are in Staten Island and the Rockaways, which have many first responders, mostly white. Elmhurst and environs are the hottest. Harlem is much lower than the North Bronx and some other parts that have long subway commutes. Black Brooklyn is at the citywide average
This doesn't fit with narrative that people of color have been hardest hit because of institutional racism. The better explanation is that they happen to live in cities,
Not fitting with the narrative is men being harder hit
This doesn't fit with narrative that people of color have been hardest hit because of institutional racism. The better explanation is that they happen to live in cities,
Not fitting with the narrative is men being harder hit
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 06, 2020 12:56 PM (9TdxA)
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Let's remember this goes back to the days when '60
Minutes' let a plaintiff's lawyer show an Audi 'unintentionally
accelerating' - after the transmission had been replumbed to change the
internal hydraulics. This was in the early '80s. Filth.
Then we had NBC setting GM trucks on fire with model rocket engines.
If you trust the big media you're a fool.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (8erNz)
They blowed up good. Blowed up real good!
Minutes' let a plaintiff's lawyer show an Audi 'unintentionally
accelerating' - after the transmission had been replumbed to change the
internal hydraulics. This was in the early '80s. Filth.
Then we had NBC setting GM trucks on fire with model rocket engines.
If you trust the big media you're a fool.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (8erNz)
They blowed up good. Blowed up real good!
Posted by: NBC News at May 06, 2020 12:56 PM (q1Pj5)
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I stand corrected, but Rather is an Uncle of this shit... or at least a rat bastard.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 06, 2020 12:57 PM (3H9h1)
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I have never, ever seen worse air pollution than the time I visited Beijing. The smog was so bad I could barely see the hand in front of my face.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:56 PM (zqhdn)
More evidence of the devastating effect of unbridled capitalism.
I have never, ever seen worse air pollution than the time I visited Beijing. The smog was so bad I could barely see the hand in front of my face.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:56 PM (zqhdn)
More evidence of the devastating effect of unbridled capitalism.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2020 12:57 PM (mht8P)
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>>I have never, ever seen worse air pollution than the time I visited Beijing. The smog was so bad I could barely see the hand in front of my face.
It's surreal. I felt like I was in a bad movie.
It's surreal. I felt like I was in a bad movie.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:57 PM (ZLI7S)
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Ace, stop calling Biden "Stinkyfingers." That's offensive to Tara Reade and all women.
Posted by: Miley
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Thank you.
Ace, stop calling Biden "Stinkyfingers." That's offensive to Tara Reade and all women.
Posted by: Miley
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Thank you.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 06, 2020 12:57 PM (SFAhl)
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I've seen that before but it really does not make any sense to me. From what little I know of biology I thought that if just one virus (of any sort) got in and your immune system allowed it to reproduce then you are going to get the disease until your immune system can fight it off or you die. The only thing I can think of where the load would matter is if your body can fight off a few but not many. If that is the case then would not everybody die that gets infected?
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (00CEy)
Dilution is the solution to pollution.
I have a 5 gallon bucket of water. I put 10ml of crap in it. I mixed imperial and metric just for fun.
Would you put your hand in there?
Now I take that same bucket and put a half gallon of crap in there.
Now?
More viruses is worse than less viruses.
Is there something else you need splained to you?
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (00CEy)
Dilution is the solution to pollution.
I have a 5 gallon bucket of water. I put 10ml of crap in it. I mixed imperial and metric just for fun.
Would you put your hand in there?
Now I take that same bucket and put a half gallon of crap in there.
Now?
More viruses is worse than less viruses.
Is there something else you need splained to you?
Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 12:57 PM (ZfRYq)
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VOA is even worse than NPR.
Yeah they should be positive toward whoever is in the administration by default, being the VOICE OF AMERICA to people trapped in dictatorships. Always positive. And that is super easy to clean house on, as well
Yeah they should be positive toward whoever is in the administration by default, being the VOICE OF AMERICA to people trapped in dictatorships. Always positive. And that is super easy to clean house on, as well
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:57 PM (KZzsI)
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Here's the video regarding Fauci. Watch it before they take it down.
https://vimeo.com/414289492
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:25 PM (lwiT4)
Thanks for that, Grammie. I vaguely remember the Fauci/Gallo/French Dr. dust-up over HIV research/patents....Fauci is a snake.
https://vimeo.com/414289492
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:25 PM (lwiT4)
Thanks for that, Grammie. I vaguely remember the Fauci/Gallo/French Dr. dust-up over HIV research/patents....Fauci is a snake.
Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2020 12:58 PM (X/Pw5)
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Harry Reid helped set up a machine based on the Unions which cemented Dem control over Nevada. Now they are all locked in to following the Dem Line.
I agree they are making a terrible mistake, and they are going to pay a terrible price - for all intents and purposes, Las Vegas is going to die, and a large amount of the population will leave. Without the lure of casino based tourism, there's no good reason for a city of any size to be there.
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:55 PM (trdmm)
Unions always self-destruct. They always do something stupid to price the labor they "represent" out of the market. And the Dems do their bidding every time, without fail. You'd think they'd learn. But no.
I agree they are making a terrible mistake, and they are going to pay a terrible price - for all intents and purposes, Las Vegas is going to die, and a large amount of the population will leave. Without the lure of casino based tourism, there's no good reason for a city of any size to be there.
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:55 PM (trdmm)
Unions always self-destruct. They always do something stupid to price the labor they "represent" out of the market. And the Dems do their bidding every time, without fail. You'd think they'd learn. But no.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2020 12:58 PM (zqhdn)
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317 Masks probably do help in the outbound direction (e.g., if you are infected and asymptomatic, it helps keep your germs to yourself). I wear a mask when I feel a bit unwell but have to go to work, so that I don't share with my colleagues.
From this standpoint, wearing a mask is reasonably if you have any suspicion of infection. If you don't, it's probably pointless.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (hYcqw)
The bigger question? Why. Why bother at all.
We don't have a vaccine, so the only way we get back to normality is Herd immunity.
Which means it NEEDS to spread.
The idea of flatten the curve was to ensure our hospitals were not overwhelmed.
Well, they are not, in fact they are LAYING OFF MEDICAL WORKERS.
All masks do is slow down the spread.
YES, be careful if you are in one of the danger groups, or around someone who is, but other than that?
Masks are prolonging the inevitable and doing MORE damage to our economy.
From this standpoint, wearing a mask is reasonably if you have any suspicion of infection. If you don't, it's probably pointless.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (hYcqw)
The bigger question? Why. Why bother at all.
We don't have a vaccine, so the only way we get back to normality is Herd immunity.
Which means it NEEDS to spread.
The idea of flatten the curve was to ensure our hospitals were not overwhelmed.
Well, they are not, in fact they are LAYING OFF MEDICAL WORKERS.
All masks do is slow down the spread.
YES, be careful if you are in one of the danger groups, or around someone who is, but other than that?
Masks are prolonging the inevitable and doing MORE damage to our economy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:58 PM (NgKpN)
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More viruses is worse than less viruses.
That would just make things go faster. Virii overwhelm the body by seeming to be benign and fooling the immune system, then breeding out of control. Having a lot won't make you sicker, just get you more certainly sick, swifter.
That would just make things go faster. Virii overwhelm the body by seeming to be benign and fooling the immune system, then breeding out of control. Having a lot won't make you sicker, just get you more certainly sick, swifter.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:58 PM (KZzsI)
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for all intents and purposes, Las Vegas is going to die, and a large amount of the population will leave. Without the lure of casino based tourism, there's no good reason for a city of any size to be there.
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:55 PM
I had a dream....
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2020 12:55 PM
I had a dream....
Posted by: Moe Green at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM (ejd/p)
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Our local beach will allow chairs and umbrellas beginning tomorrow. FREEDOM!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (ptqGC)
_________
Celebrate real FREEDOM by going topless. Pics expected ...
Posted by: ShainS
Here! Here!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2020 12:29 PM (ptqGC)
_________
Celebrate real FREEDOM by going topless. Pics expected ...
Posted by: ShainS
Here! Here!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM (At/8G)
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310
I am going to wear a mask in just about half an hour. My choice. We are
going to visit an elderly lady in our congregation to see how she is
doing and to pray with her. She will feel more comfortable if we are
wearing masks, so wear them we will, as we would cause her stress
otherwise. Our choice.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (lwiT4)
And that's appropriate. If they had concentrated on elderly shut ins, nursing homes and immune compromised , the death rate would be half of what it is.Instead of making us all sit home, test those in contact with that population and have them suit up accordingly. Closing parks and beaches and saying it is safer to go to Walmarts than small retailers is ridiculous.
I am going to wear a mask in just about half an hour. My choice. We are
going to visit an elderly lady in our congregation to see how she is
doing and to pray with her. She will feel more comfortable if we are
wearing masks, so wear them we will, as we would cause her stress
otherwise. Our choice.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2020 12:52 PM (lwiT4)
And that's appropriate. If they had concentrated on elderly shut ins, nursing homes and immune compromised , the death rate would be half of what it is.Instead of making us all sit home, test those in contact with that population and have them suit up accordingly. Closing parks and beaches and saying it is safer to go to Walmarts than small retailers is ridiculous.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM (QzF6i)
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Another case of fake news in a long an sorry line of fakes. Our media is trash worse than provda.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM (0OmEj)
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ABC sucks, too. Last night their prime time lineup included Mixed-ish and Black-ish.
I can't wait for their next big hit: Gay-ish.
I can't wait for their next big hit: Gay-ish.
Posted by: wth at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM (v0R5T)
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Lying Liars Who Lie: Film at 5 pm, 6 pm and 11 pm.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM (FypLm)
353
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo
A slow burn.
Posted by: Tom Servo
A slow burn.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM (At/8G)
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If you trust the big media you're a fool.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (8erNz)
+++++++++++++++
I agree. I had an interesting conversation about this a couple of years ago when I was in Europe for a business trip and a big group of us went out to dinner. One of my Euro colleagues asked about some stories he read in the press, all of which were false. I told him, "the most valuable lesson you can learn is that the American press lie constantly and you shouldn't trust them."
A woman at the table (American) took exception and asserted that they are sometimes wrong due to deadline pressures, but they don't lie.
I gave her an analogy. I said, "Assume we're talking about an investment advisor instead. Every time you give him $1000, he loses your money. There are two possible reasons for this. He could be incompetent, or he could be stealing from you. Which reason it is will guide later actions, but the immediate action is the same: quit giving him your money. Whether the press are incompetent like you assert or if they're liars like I assert, the first step is to stop listening to them regardless of which one of us is right."
No response.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 12:11 PM (8erNz)
+++++++++++++++
I agree. I had an interesting conversation about this a couple of years ago when I was in Europe for a business trip and a big group of us went out to dinner. One of my Euro colleagues asked about some stories he read in the press, all of which were false. I told him, "the most valuable lesson you can learn is that the American press lie constantly and you shouldn't trust them."
A woman at the table (American) took exception and asserted that they are sometimes wrong due to deadline pressures, but they don't lie.
I gave her an analogy. I said, "Assume we're talking about an investment advisor instead. Every time you give him $1000, he loses your money. There are two possible reasons for this. He could be incompetent, or he could be stealing from you. Which reason it is will guide later actions, but the immediate action is the same: quit giving him your money. Whether the press are incompetent like you assert or if they're liars like I assert, the first step is to stop listening to them regardless of which one of us is right."
No response.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 01:00 PM (hYcqw)
355
Alright, Trump team. Time to release the next accuser.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
And give up that easily?
No. Time for a rapid series of tear-jearking interviews and then lay the monster charge later.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
And give up that easily?
No. Time for a rapid series of tear-jearking interviews and then lay the monster charge later.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2020 01:00 PM (UdCe2)
356
Fake is perfectly acceptable.
Posted by: Zombie Dan Rather at May 06, 2020 01:00 PM (EgshT)
357
Ace, stop calling Biden "Stinkyfingers." That's offensive to Tara Reade and all women.
Posted by: Miley
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Exactly. And it would be totally offensive to everybody to say that Don Lemon's hand stank straight from his taint--because we all have taints!
Posted by: Miley
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Exactly. And it would be totally offensive to everybody to say that Don Lemon's hand stank straight from his taint--because we all have taints!
Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:00 PM (Eicbe)
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That would just make things go faster. Virii overwhelm the body by seeming to be benign and fooling the immune system, then breeding out of control. Having a lot won't make you sicker, just get you more certainly sick, swifter.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:58 PM (KZzsI)
Wouldn't a slower speed of getting sick allow the immune system more time to respond and potentially lead to more mild symptoms?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:58 PM (KZzsI)
Wouldn't a slower speed of getting sick allow the immune system more time to respond and potentially lead to more mild symptoms?
Posted by: Someguy at May 06, 2020 01:00 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 01:00 PM (WEBkv)
360
C BS
Corporate BS
Chinese BS
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (8fB/R)
Communist Broadcasting System
C BS
Corporate BS
Chinese BS
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (8fB/R)
Communist Broadcasting System
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2020 01:00 PM (pnOBP)
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on and on and on it goes through the years.
Oh, but you can trust them THIS time
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (KZzsI)
++++
Outstanding reminders. Thank you.
One of the Media's problems, perhaps the big problem, is that the incentive structure is screwed up. At the very top, in local and network news, the incentive is rewards for maximizing profit from ads. So we get "If it bleeds it leads," or "Orangeman Bad." Good luck making money if you only have stories about a group mowing a disabled veteran's lawn, or about a new highway section that opened on time and on budget.
To the reporters, the goal is to rise up the ladder, to become a network reporter, then a network anchor, then get your own opinion-type hour-long show. Again, you are not going to rise up that ladder with only stories about lost puppies being found and the sad little boy is now overjoyed. You have to make a splash, get noticed by the network.
Editors and news division chiefs have to try to get better ratings that the competition, and at least attempt to make profit in their area of responsibility. Do they have time and resources to check the details of every reporter's story, under the pressure of the 24-hour news cycle? No, and they are not required to do so by the publisher and/or CEO. Gotta get that film of the (false) coronavirus hospital situation on-air before the other guys run something similar!
The problem is, a couple of words are missing from the above incentives and motivations descriptions: Truth and accuracy.
Oh, but you can trust them THIS time
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:22 PM (KZzsI)
++++
Outstanding reminders. Thank you.
One of the Media's problems, perhaps the big problem, is that the incentive structure is screwed up. At the very top, in local and network news, the incentive is rewards for maximizing profit from ads. So we get "If it bleeds it leads," or "Orangeman Bad." Good luck making money if you only have stories about a group mowing a disabled veteran's lawn, or about a new highway section that opened on time and on budget.
To the reporters, the goal is to rise up the ladder, to become a network reporter, then a network anchor, then get your own opinion-type hour-long show. Again, you are not going to rise up that ladder with only stories about lost puppies being found and the sad little boy is now overjoyed. You have to make a splash, get noticed by the network.
Editors and news division chiefs have to try to get better ratings that the competition, and at least attempt to make profit in their area of responsibility. Do they have time and resources to check the details of every reporter's story, under the pressure of the 24-hour news cycle? No, and they are not required to do so by the publisher and/or CEO. Gotta get that film of the (false) coronavirus hospital situation on-air before the other guys run something similar!
The problem is, a couple of words are missing from the above incentives and motivations descriptions: Truth and accuracy.
Posted by: Gref at May 06, 2020 01:01 PM (AMIL/)
362
354 WHAT WE NEED IS A NATIONAL VENTILATOR DAY.
.50BMG does a great job at ventilating. A little pricey though.
.50BMG does a great job at ventilating. A little pricey though.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 01:01 PM (8erNz)
363
355 Alright, Trump team. Time to release the next accuser.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
And give up that easily?
No. Time for a rapid series of tear-jearking interviews and then lay the monster charge later.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2020 01:00 PM (UdCe2)
=========
Give up?
No, continue the fight with the next accuser.
"This is done."
-Nancy
"Joe raped me in a broom closet with Obama right outside. I filed a police report at the time, and I have it here."
-Woman #10
"I'm not talking about this."
-Nancy
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
And give up that easily?
No. Time for a rapid series of tear-jearking interviews and then lay the monster charge later.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2020 01:00 PM (UdCe2)
=========
Give up?
No, continue the fight with the next accuser.
"This is done."
-Nancy
"Joe raped me in a broom closet with Obama right outside. I filed a police report at the time, and I have it here."
-Woman #10
"I'm not talking about this."
-Nancy
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 06, 2020 01:01 PM (LvTSG)
364
Masks are prolonging the inevitable and doing MORE damage to our economy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:58 PM (NgKpN)
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That might be true. I don't know the effects of reduced transmission on herd immunity. This is probably a good point.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2020 12:58 PM (NgKpN)
+++++++++++++++
That might be true. I don't know the effects of reduced transmission on herd immunity. This is probably a good point.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 01:01 PM (hYcqw)
365
If only Trump weren't so "divisive."
Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 06, 2020 01:01 PM (lcQJG)
366
Ace, stop calling Biden "Stinkyfingers." That's offensive to Tara Reade and all women.
Posted by: Miley
Yeah. Call him Tuna Boat.
Posted by: rickb223
Stinkyphalanges?
Posted by: Miley
Yeah. Call him Tuna Boat.
Posted by: rickb223
Stinkyphalanges?
Posted by: Biergood at May 06, 2020 01:01 PM (FQWHA)
367
OT
Memorial Day Sale!
Need a Pool?
Have a Pickup Truck?
there ya go
https://pickuppools.com/
Military owned. Made in America.
Built to last. If our pools are tough enough to survive a war-zone, then they're tough enough to survive your next tailgate party. We guarantee it.
OT
Memorial Day Sale!
Need a Pool?
Have a Pickup Truck?
there ya go
https://pickuppools.com/
Military owned. Made in America.
Built to last. If our pools are tough enough to survive a war-zone, then they're tough enough to survive your next tailgate party. We guarantee it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (8fB/R)
368
Did they make one of the waiting vehicles a Chevy truck that exploded when hit from the side? Because that would be patent infringement. NBC owns rights to that kind of journalistic malfeasance.
Posted by: red speck at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (gS3OW)
369
I always use Summer's Eve hand sanitizer.
Posted by: Joey "Freshfingers" Biden at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (RVcmP)
370
178
139:
"The global warming scam followed the exact same script as this virus."
They both have as ultimate goals accretion of power into the
political class's hands. The resemblance between the two is
indistinguishable because the ends are the same. Both will end up on the
ash heap of history along with their predecessor, communism.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (puu6v)
________
Their ultimate goal of course is to wipe out most of the actual worst virus on the planet -- human beings.
139:
"The global warming scam followed the exact same script as this virus."
They both have as ultimate goals accretion of power into the
political class's hands. The resemblance between the two is
indistinguishable because the ends are the same. Both will end up on the
ash heap of history along with their predecessor, communism.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 06, 2020 12:32 PM (puu6v)
________
Their ultimate goal of course is to wipe out most of the actual worst virus on the planet -- human beings.
Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (YnLiG)
371
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Tom Servo
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (d6DSt)
372
So we have now tested about 1.5% of the Texas population to find that one tenth of 1 percent has an infection that may contribute to the death of about 3% of those infected.
Over 500 of those deaths (all very sad) are to people in assisted living and nursing homes.
Over 500 of those deaths (all very sad) are to people in assisted living and nursing homes.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (JFO2v)
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59 So hospital professionals left their patients, picked up their car keys, hopped in their vehicles ...
Actually, I hear that CBS wanted several of them to be ready to scream "Damn you, Trump!!", fall out of the car door, and writhe in agony on the street, but the hospital Ethics Board said that might be a bit misleading.
Actually, I hear that CBS wanted several of them to be ready to scream "Damn you, Trump!!", fall out of the car door, and writhe in agony on the street, but the hospital Ethics Board said that might be a bit misleading.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 06, 2020 01:03 PM (jE24R)
374
Meanwhile, at an overwhelmed hospital in Italy, Queens...
Posted by: This Is Xi-NN at May 06, 2020 01:03 PM (vegNq)
375
There's some evidence the virus is mutating to a weaker form:
https://tinyurl.com/y7x9g5n4
https://tinyurl.com/y7x9g5n4
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 06, 2020 01:03 PM (JKNZq)
376
I predict that in about two weeks the whole country
(aside from maybe NY and NJ) will just say "Fuck it," and emerge from
their caves en masse.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:51 PM (N9G0H)
I live at an entrance to one of the largest open space districts in the state. 3 weeks ago, the ranger station parking lot was empty. Last Friday, it was packed. A few old people were wearing masks, Asians (as always), but that was about it. Sure, it's pretty spread out, but people were driving from all over to get there.
I was surprised the ranger station was open TBH. But of course, all the picnic tables, out in the sun in 80 degree weather were taped off. My tax dollars at work. Sadly, even if half of the crazy libs in this state decided to vote the other way, I don't think we can overcome the illegals voting.
(aside from maybe NY and NJ) will just say "Fuck it," and emerge from
their caves en masse.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 12:51 PM (N9G0H)
I live at an entrance to one of the largest open space districts in the state. 3 weeks ago, the ranger station parking lot was empty. Last Friday, it was packed. A few old people were wearing masks, Asians (as always), but that was about it. Sure, it's pretty spread out, but people were driving from all over to get there.
I was surprised the ranger station was open TBH. But of course, all the picnic tables, out in the sun in 80 degree weather were taped off. My tax dollars at work. Sadly, even if half of the crazy libs in this state decided to vote the other way, I don't think we can overcome the illegals voting.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 06, 2020 01:03 PM (8B6Ng)
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I've seen that before but it really does not make any sense to me. From what little I know of biology I thought that if just one virus (of any sort) got in and your immune system allowed it to reproduce then you are going to get the disease until your immune system can fight it off or you die. The only thing I can think of where the load would matter is if your body can fight off a few but not many. If that is the case then would not everybody die that gets infected?
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (00CEy)
It's a fair question. Your body CONSTANTLY fights off invaders. For example, anthrax spores are present in common dirt. You dig in dirt, you're exposed to anthrax.
But your body's immune system is well equipped to fight off minor doses of anthrax. It's spots those few bits of alien sumbitches, and eats them for breakfast. Leave some nice warm chicken salad out for a couple of days, and salmonella WILL come knocking. It's in the air. All the time. But in low doses.
And you never even notice it going on. So. One day, this stranger shows up at your front door, and in force. This is why viral load is important.
And yes, I'm mixing viruses and bacteria, but the principle is the same.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 06, 2020 12:53 PM (00CEy)
It's a fair question. Your body CONSTANTLY fights off invaders. For example, anthrax spores are present in common dirt. You dig in dirt, you're exposed to anthrax.
But your body's immune system is well equipped to fight off minor doses of anthrax. It's spots those few bits of alien sumbitches, and eats them for breakfast. Leave some nice warm chicken salad out for a couple of days, and salmonella WILL come knocking. It's in the air. All the time. But in low doses.
And you never even notice it going on. So. One day, this stranger shows up at your front door, and in force. This is why viral load is important.
And yes, I'm mixing viruses and bacteria, but the principle is the same.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2020 01:03 PM (Z4rgH)
378
We lie in the service of The Greater Good.
Posted by: The Democrat Media Complex at May 06, 2020 01:03 PM (l3+k2)
379
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (d6DSt)
buying a second hand ferarri would be less maintenance.
Posted by: Ped Xing at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (d6DSt)
buying a second hand ferarri would be less maintenance.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 06, 2020 01:04 PM (JFO2v)
380
Pooty pickers?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 06, 2020 01:04 PM (lcQJG)
381
That would just make things go faster. Virii overwhelm the body by seeming to be benign and fooling the immune system, then breeding out of control. Having a lot won't make you sicker, just get you more certainly sick, swifter.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:58 PM (KZzsI)
Ackshually....
There is some backup to the notion that the higher the viral load at exposure the worse the infection.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 12:58 PM (KZzsI)
Ackshually....
There is some backup to the notion that the higher the viral load at exposure the worse the infection.
Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:04 PM (ZfRYq)
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Over 500 of those deaths (all very sad) are to people in assisted living and nursing homes.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (JFO2v)
That's over half of the alleged Coronavirus related deaths.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (JFO2v)
That's over half of the alleged Coronavirus related deaths.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 01:04 PM (2DOZq)
383
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
Posted by: Tom Servo
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:04 PM (At/8G)
384
I gave her an analogy.
Yep. It doesn't really matter whether it's criminality or incompetence, all that matters is that they're wrong.
Yep. It doesn't really matter whether it's criminality or incompetence, all that matters is that they're wrong.
Posted by: JEM at May 06, 2020 01:04 PM (8erNz)
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Wouldn't a slower speed of getting sick allow the immune system more time to respond and potentially lead to more mild symptoms?
Its possible, but virii succeed by tricking your immune system into not knowing they are dangerous. So I'm not sure how much difference that would make. I am far from an expert on the subject but what I recall makes me believe that the difference is not the amount of viral presence but rather the familiarity your immune system has with the virus, and some seem to attack it sooner than others.
But I'm completely open to correction from someone with more information and training.
Its possible, but virii succeed by tricking your immune system into not knowing they are dangerous. So I'm not sure how much difference that would make. I am far from an expert on the subject but what I recall makes me believe that the difference is not the amount of viral presence but rather the familiarity your immune system has with the virus, and some seem to attack it sooner than others.
But I'm completely open to correction from someone with more information and training.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:05 PM (KZzsI)
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Let's get rid of some old people because their return to society is not so great.
Shhhhh! You can't tell anyone.
Shhhhh! You can't tell anyone.
Posted by: China and American Progressives at May 06, 2020 01:05 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 06, 2020 01:05 PM (ejd/p)
Posted by: Methos at May 06, 2020 01:05 PM (kOpft)
389
Don't you love it when a troll says they're not trying to be a troll?That's what they call a "tell"
Posted by: artemis at May 06, 2020 01:05 PM (AwPyG)
390
Just heard Gwinnet county schools is Georgia was going to try a partial re-opening with just office workers and some teachers going back to work. Looks like the panicked response by employees was too much and has been cancelled for now.
LOL! Govt is going to have a hard time getting their indoctrination centers back in operation. They got the lemmings worked into a frenzy and are going to regret it.
LOL! Govt is going to have a hard time getting their indoctrination centers back in operation. They got the lemmings worked into a frenzy and are going to regret it.
Posted by: Ripley at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (MxEKc)
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
4pm EDT (3 hours from now)
Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany Holds a Briefing
The White House
4pm EDT (3 hours from now)
Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany Holds a Briefing
The White House
Posted by: m at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (O3A5V)
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Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg joins oral argument by telephone from hospital
what a disgrace
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg joins oral argument by telephone from hospital
what a disgrace
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (8fB/R)
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So it turns out New Jersey did the nursing home thing as well.
I *know* that Witchmer did. I suspect that all those states that top the charts fucking did.
I *know* that Witchmer did. I suspect that all those states that top the charts fucking did.
Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (Eicbe)
394
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:04 PM (At/8G)
That's not a nice name for showgirls.
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:04 PM (At/8G)
That's not a nice name for showgirls.
Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (ZfRYq)
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>>t's a fair question. Your body CONSTANTLY fights off invaders. For example, anthrax spores are present in common dirt. You dig in dirt, you're exposed to anthrax.
>>But your body's immune system is well equipped to fight off minor doses of anthrax. It's spots those few bits of alien sumbitches, and eats them for breakfast. Leave some nice warm chicken salad out for a couple of days, and salmonella WILL come knocking. It's in the air. All the time. But in low doses.
Which is why the lectures to constantly wash your hands are also wrong.
>>But your body's immune system is well equipped to fight off minor doses of anthrax. It's spots those few bits of alien sumbitches, and eats them for breakfast. Leave some nice warm chicken salad out for a couple of days, and salmonella WILL come knocking. It's in the air. All the time. But in low doses.
Which is why the lectures to constantly wash your hands are also wrong.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (ZLI7S)
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'Apparently, the news crew wanted more people in the line,' said a Cherry Health Supervisor.
"We pretended. There were a couple of real patients, which made it worse," Said Another Registered Nurse.
**************
Doesn't this cross some sort of actual, legal line? Isn't this some sort of tortuous, nay *criminal* interference with medical treatment?
On the part of the media?
I mean, using a telephoto lens to manipulate the apparent crowd density at a beach is scummy, but not criminal.
This however...really seems to potentially cross a line.
"We pretended. There were a couple of real patients, which made it worse," Said Another Registered Nurse.
**************
Doesn't this cross some sort of actual, legal line? Isn't this some sort of tortuous, nay *criminal* interference with medical treatment?
On the part of the media?
I mean, using a telephoto lens to manipulate the apparent crowd density at a beach is scummy, but not criminal.
This however...really seems to potentially cross a line.
Posted by: El Jefe at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (Ae67h)
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UPDATE: A hospitalized Ruth Bader Ginsburg participated in arguments by teleconference after receiving treatment for a minor gallbladder infection.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (Lrula)
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The problem is, a couple of words are missing from the above incentives and motivations descriptions: Truth and accuracy.
Exactly. The system is designed to encourage falsehood and spectacular, invented stories, because that is how you move up. And sometimes they get away with it.
Geraldo Rivera made his bones on a story that was largely false, about insane asylums.
Exactly. The system is designed to encourage falsehood and spectacular, invented stories, because that is how you move up. And sometimes they get away with it.
Geraldo Rivera made his bones on a story that was largely false, about insane asylums.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:07 PM (KZzsI)
399
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
____________________
Is there a difference between the two?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
____________________
Is there a difference between the two?
Posted by: stumck at May 06, 2020 01:07 PM (w9Wax)
400
353
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo
A slow burn.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM (At/8G)
________
This nightmare has me on the edge of going full tilt.
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo
A slow burn.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM (At/8G)
________
This nightmare has me on the edge of going full tilt.
Posted by: ShainS -- #OrangeMurderHornetBad! at May 06, 2020 01:07 PM (Ufkho)
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We have a shot for the flu which is pretty much universally available free of charge and people, mostly elderly, still die in large numbers every year. How is having a shot for this new flu going to be any different that we have to wait to reopen the country?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 06, 2020 01:08 PM (QzF6i)
402
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
____________________
Is there a difference between the two?
Posted by: stumck
Less maintenance on the machines.
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
____________________
Is there a difference between the two?
Posted by: stumck
Less maintenance on the machines.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:08 PM (At/8G)
403
*Breaking News: World Naked Bike Ride Day has been canceled due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Not because of fear of spreading the virus. It's because of the lack of Clorox wipes to clean the seats when they are done.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2020 01:08 PM (N39Ws)
404
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
**********
What part of 70 years did you not understand?
Posted by: Tom Servo
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
**********
What part of 70 years did you not understand?
Posted by: Muldoon at May 06, 2020 01:08 PM (Fc5rx)
405
Nood.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (WEBkv)
406
CBS might lie to US about these lines, to push their globalist agenda ... but thy would NEVER lie about ...
Global Warming numbers
RussiaRussiaRussia
Hillary and Uranium One
Trump statements about "Mexicans all murderers and rapists"
Obama's links to ...
Global Warming numbers
RussiaRussiaRussia
Hillary and Uranium One
Trump statements about "Mexicans all murderers and rapists"
Obama's links to ...
Posted by: illiniwek at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (Cus5s)
407
402 If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
____________________
Is there a difference between the two?
Posted by: stumck
Less maintenance on the machines.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:08 PM (At/8G)
Some bandits have one arm, others have two.
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
____________________
Is there a difference between the two?
Posted by: stumck
Less maintenance on the machines.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:08 PM (At/8G)
Some bandits have one arm, others have two.
Posted by: Someguy at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (Zm+LZ)
408
Mark my words: If the pushback to this tyranny escalates, you're going to start seeing calls from the pols to shut down the internet to the public. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
Posted by: Sooner at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (Fs5vw)
409
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg joins oral argument by telephone from hospital
.......
I'm sure her contributions to the debate will be invaluable.
*wheeze, gasp, gurgle*
.......
I'm sure her contributions to the debate will be invaluable.
*wheeze, gasp, gurgle*
Posted by: wth at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (v0R5T)
410
Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo
A slow burn.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM
---
It ain't just Vegas that's going to suffer. My son is a poker dealer at Mohegan Sun casino in CT. They are saying possibly they will do a soft opening at the end of July but they won't need everyone when that happens.
A whole bunch of casino business was elderly people and they for the most part are not going back because of their fear of the virus thanks to the media. They are predicting it will take 18-24 months after they reopen to get back to half of their business they had before this started.
My son turns 39 next week, still time for him to look for another line of work. He has been with that Casino since he graduated High School. Worked his way up from the bottom starting as a slot machine mechanic.
Posted by: Tom Servo
A slow burn.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:59 PM
---
It ain't just Vegas that's going to suffer. My son is a poker dealer at Mohegan Sun casino in CT. They are saying possibly they will do a soft opening at the end of July but they won't need everyone when that happens.
A whole bunch of casino business was elderly people and they for the most part are not going back because of their fear of the virus thanks to the media. They are predicting it will take 18-24 months after they reopen to get back to half of their business they had before this started.
My son turns 39 next week, still time for him to look for another line of work. He has been with that Casino since he graduated High School. Worked his way up from the bottom starting as a slot machine mechanic.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (JUOKG)
411
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
What is the difference?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
What is the difference?
Posted by: Ped Xing at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (d6DSt)
412
Gavin Newsom sez "We're not going back to normal". Not until there is immunity and a vaccine. People are still getting infected by the H1N1 (swine flu) virus, and that virus goes back to 2009.
Posted by: mrp at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (Pqytn)
413
UPDATE: A hospitalized Ruth Bader Ginsburg
participated in arguments by teleconference after receiving treatment
for a minor gallbladder infection.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (Lrula)
Running low on orphans? You'd think they'd have had a stockpile just in case of such a pandemic or other emergency.
participated in arguments by teleconference after receiving treatment
for a minor gallbladder infection.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (Lrula)
Running low on orphans? You'd think they'd have had a stockpile just in case of such a pandemic or other emergency.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (At/8G)
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Less maintenance on the machines.
____________________
I sense that you have a Ferrari and a slot machine in your garage. I salute your happy state!
____________________
I sense that you have a Ferrari and a slot machine in your garage. I salute your happy state!
Posted by: stumck at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (w9Wax)
416
I do wonder about Vegas. With online gambling and Indian Casinos, why even bother going there, again? For the roller coaster rides and food scene?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 06, 2020 01:10 PM (KZzsI)
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>>Gavin Newsom sez "We're not going back to normal". Not until there is immunity and a vaccine. People are still getting infected by the H1N1 (swine flu) virus, and that virus goes back to 2009.
And AIDS.
And AIDS.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (bDqIh)
418
We have a shot for the flu which is pretty much universally available free of charge and people, mostly elderly, still die in large numbers every year. How is having a shot for this new flu going to be any different that we have to wait to reopen the country?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 06, 2020 01:08 PM (QzF6i)
++++++++++++++
By making it mandatory and issued at taxpayer expense.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 06, 2020 01:08 PM (QzF6i)
++++++++++++++
By making it mandatory and issued at taxpayer expense.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (hYcqw)
419
397 UPDATE: A hospitalized Ruth Bader Ginsburg participated in arguments by teleconference after receiving treatment for a minor gallbladder infection.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (Lrula)
And I'm sure she's sharp as a tack. No painkillers to cloud her judgement or her ability to focus / understand the issue
She's a fvcking machine. Clone that bitch, we need her around FOREVER
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 06, 2020 01:06 PM (Lrula)
And I'm sure she's sharp as a tack. No painkillers to cloud her judgement or her ability to focus / understand the issue
She's a fvcking machine. Clone that bitch, we need her around FOREVER
Posted by: browndog at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (gD6Ka)
420
Those show girls don't hold up under close inspection.
Some have peniii
Some have peniii
Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (w7KSn)
421
Thanks to all your answers. Looked at the video one of you mentioned. FWIW I have no hope a vaccine will be developed. That idiot Fauci has been working on this since SARS and MERS and they have not really made progress. And if progress is made it will not be CDC that makes it.
I agree with Zombie. Even the crappy masks keep it from propelling out. I also agree with the use of force. But I do use a mask and have been since mid February.
For those who think this is just a flu. It spreads faster than flu and if you get sick (which is a low probability event based on the antibody studies) it will gum up your blood.
Similar to malaria and lupus - which is why hydrochloroquinine seems to work. BTW. if we could get that when you first started feeling sick I think we could knock this down to nothing quickly. Another reason to hate Fauci.
For states where there are minimal impacts I agree that mask are unnecessary. And I do not think they should be required. But just because they are is no reason to not make use of them.
Again, thanks for your answers. I mostly lurk here but I look forward to the Cali MoMe.
I agree with Zombie. Even the crappy masks keep it from propelling out. I also agree with the use of force. But I do use a mask and have been since mid February.
For those who think this is just a flu. It spreads faster than flu and if you get sick (which is a low probability event based on the antibody studies) it will gum up your blood.
Similar to malaria and lupus - which is why hydrochloroquinine seems to work. BTW. if we could get that when you first started feeling sick I think we could knock this down to nothing quickly. Another reason to hate Fauci.
For states where there are minimal impacts I agree that mask are unnecessary. And I do not think they should be required. But just because they are is no reason to not make use of them.
Again, thanks for your answers. I mostly lurk here but I look forward to the Cali MoMe.
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (KRbuA)
422
You need rope and helicopters for a coup.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (At/8G)
Standby - Bravo Lima 21 inbound with flock, 2-0 mikes, hot, and with knot-knowledge. Waiting on Nine-line, over.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2020 12:43 PM (At/8G)
Standby - Bravo Lima 21 inbound with flock, 2-0 mikes, hot, and with knot-knowledge. Waiting on Nine-line, over.
Posted by: Pinochet Air Tours Flt Attendant at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (UutBm)
423
383 Las Vegas will turn out to have been a 70 year long flash in the pan.
Posted by: Tom Servo
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
Posted by: rickb223
________
I want the police files on the Stephen Paddock shooting spree.
Posted by: Tom Servo
If they are going to have a going out of business sale, could I pick up a few of the show girls?
Posted by: Ped Xing
I want a couple of the slot machines.
Posted by: rickb223
________
I want the police files on the Stephen Paddock shooting spree.
Posted by: Furious George at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (9vQJW)
424
Over 500 of those deaths (all very sad) are to people in assisted living and nursing homes.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (JFO2v)
That's over half of the alleged Coronavirus related deaths.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 01:04 PM (2DOZq)
Speaking from experience, patients in assisted living and nursing homes die. That's a given.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 06, 2020 01:02 PM (JFO2v)
That's over half of the alleged Coronavirus related deaths.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 06, 2020 01:04 PM (2DOZq)
Speaking from experience, patients in assisted living and nursing homes die. That's a given.
Posted by: LASue at May 06, 2020 01:11 PM (Ed8Zd)
425
361 "One of the Media's problems, perhaps the big problem, is that the incentive structure is screwed up..."
No it's not. They are desperate to get rid of Trump before he reveals the role they played in publicizing the Russia-pee-pee dossier that they knew the FBI and Hillary had concocted. It's called "sedition", and it's a serious crime. Serious like jail.
No it's not. They are desperate to get rid of Trump before he reveals the role they played in publicizing the Russia-pee-pee dossier that they knew the FBI and Hillary had concocted. It's called "sedition", and it's a serious crime. Serious like jail.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (jE24R)
426
I'm sure her contributions to the debate will be invaluable.
*wheeze, gasp, gurgle*
Posted by: wth at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (v0R5T)
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You forgot: zzzzzzzzz.
*wheeze, gasp, gurgle*
Posted by: wth at May 06, 2020 01:09 PM (v0R5T)
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You forgot: zzzzzzzzz.
Posted by: Axeman at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (Eicbe)
427
If we had a working press, they might be interested in interviewing some people and family members so as to find out who has actually seen and spoken to RBG, and how she seemed.
Posted by: artemis at May 06, 2020 01:13 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 01:14 PM (5bg3W)
429
One of the Media's problems, perhaps the big problem, is that the incentive structure is screwed up. At the very top, in local and network news, the incentive is rewards for maximizing profit from ads.
Posted by: Gref at May 06, 2020 01:01 PM (AMIL/)
In fact, that's the ONLY reason that modern news media exists. To sell ads. The reporting is just a way to build up an audience that is attractive to advertisers.
The problem is that journalists across the board have started believing their own bullshit about being some kind of 4th branch of government.
One of the Media's problems, perhaps the big problem, is that the incentive structure is screwed up. At the very top, in local and network news, the incentive is rewards for maximizing profit from ads.
Posted by: Gref at May 06, 2020 01:01 PM (AMIL/)
In fact, that's the ONLY reason that modern news media exists. To sell ads. The reporting is just a way to build up an audience that is attractive to advertisers.
The problem is that journalists across the board have started believing their own bullshit about being some kind of 4th branch of government.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (EGyGV)
430
I saw a link suggesting that low doses of the virus be given to the population not at risk to create herd immunity. Not a bad idea.
But we should be sending kids back to school. Colleges included. And no masks. Not if you are young.
But we should be sending kids back to school. Colleges included. And no masks. Not if you are young.
Posted by: Morticus Khan at May 06, 2020 01:15 PM (KRbuA)
431
19k from Medicare for a hospital for a Covid death.
39k to the hospital for putting a Covid patient on a ventilator.
The mortality numbers are a lie.
39k to the hospital for putting a Covid patient on a ventilator.
The mortality numbers are a lie.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 01:16 PM (5bg3W)
432
Yes, the CBS News report wad 190% fakse. Glad they admitted it.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 06, 2020 01:17 PM (ABuva)
433
I have these snazzy baclava's I got from SA Fishing. I haven't worn them out yet but I believe Costco now has a mandatory mask rule if you want to shop there and I'm due for a Costco run. If I have to I'll wear the American flag one.
Posted by: Bosk at May 06, 2020 01:34 PM (9m9TT)
434
I don't look like James Clapper. Really.
Posted by: Nosferatu at May 06, 2020 01:54 PM (icogi)
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violation of their 1st amendment right to be journalist needs to be punished. NO one really can, need for a "sin eater"
Posted by: politic uber alles at May 06, 2020 01:57 PM (0hOKG)
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277 >>Jeezus Jack...
>>I hate feeling like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat.
>>That's a scary video...
I've watched about 6 times since I came across it yesterday. I've known for years that US funding of science and overseas aid is a sewer of corruption but that video helps put it in graphic terms.
And remember, the Clinton Global Initiative was making huge amounts of money using government money, ours and foreign governments, siphoning foreign medical aid.
*If he wins, we all hang.*
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)
????
Who is "he"? Biden? Fauchi?
And who is "we"? The American public? The deep state?
Thanks.
>>I hate feeling like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat.
>>That's a scary video...
I've watched about 6 times since I came across it yesterday. I've known for years that US funding of science and overseas aid is a sewer of corruption but that video helps put it in graphic terms.
And remember, the Clinton Global Initiative was making huge amounts of money using government money, ours and foreign governments, siphoning foreign medical aid.
*If he wins, we all hang.*
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2020 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)
????
Who is "he"? Biden? Fauchi?
And who is "we"? The American public? The deep state?
Thanks.
Posted by: El Jefe at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (Ae67h)
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Gavin Newsom sez "We're not going back to normal". Not until there is immunity and a vaccine. People are still getting infected by the H1N1 (swine flu) virus, and that virus goes back to 2009.
I had Type A influenza H1N1 in February. Was not a fun time.
I had Type A influenza H1N1 in February. Was not a fun time.
Posted by: GMan at May 06, 2020 02:03 PM (sxq57)
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State judges can be impeached and removed from office by their state legislatures.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 06, 2020 02:03 PM (5bg3W)
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>> ????
Who is "he"? Biden? Fauchi?
And who is "we"? The American public? The deep state?
Thanks.
Posted by: El Jefe at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (Ae67h)
Jack was referencing somethign Hillary said years ago regarding PDT winning.
He's eluding to her and others like her KNOWING DAMN WELL what the fuck was going on with funding things like COVID research
Who is "he"? Biden? Fauchi?
And who is "we"? The American public? The deep state?
Thanks.
Posted by: El Jefe at May 06, 2020 02:01 PM (Ae67h)
Jack was referencing somethign Hillary said years ago regarding PDT winning.
He's eluding to her and others like her KNOWING DAMN WELL what the fuck was going on with funding things like COVID research
Posted by: Getcha Pull at May 06, 2020 02:57 PM (fFLLc)
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Call of the Tight Brigade
Posted by: stumck at May 06, 2020 04:03 PM (w9Wax)
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Just about all you get from CBS News is Fake News if its not stuff like The Guns of Autumm to Say Goodbye to CBS THIS MORNING,CBS EVENING NEWS and 60 MINUTES its all Fake News
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 06, 2020 05:43 PM (FLiOE)
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It was great last evening, sitting at the bar of my favorite Italian restaurant with my wife and another couple, enjoying calamari and awesome wood oven baked pizza.
I'll probably visit them at least a couple times a week just outside Moscow on the Lower Colorado.
I'll probably visit them at least a couple times a week just outside Moscow on the Lower Colorado.
Posted by: Al Swearengen at May 06, 2020 06:05 PM (Ei0/7)
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