Documents: FBI Found No Derogatory Information On Michael Flynn and Ordered the Investigation Into Him to Be Closed.<br>Then Trump Deranged Political Operative Peter Strzok Ordered the Case Be Reopened to Find <i>Any</i>thing.

Documents: FBI Found No Derogatory Information On Michael Flynn and Ordered the Investigation Into Him to Be Closed.
Then Trump Deranged Political Operative Peter Strzok Ordered the Case Be Reopened to Find Anything.

Note that the documents refer to Flynn under the codename "CROSSFIRE RAZOR" or the abbreviated version, "Razor."

Sean Davis at The Federalist:

According to the FBI document, the federal law enforcement agency also asked a redacted agency, likely the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), to conduct a similar search of its own records for derogatory information against Flynn, who at the the time was the incoming National Security Adviser for then-President-elect Donald Trump.
"No derogatory information was reported back to the FBI," the memo concluded.
The memo also reported that the FBI used at least one confidential human source, or "CHS" in FBI lingo, to spy on Flynn during its investigation of him. Leads offered by that CHS resulted in "no derogatory information" about Flynn. At the same time, the FBI also "initiated surveillance on a certain Russian subject" to determine whether "there was contact between him and [Flynn]."
"No contact between the two individuals was observed by the surveillance teams," the memo closing the investigation against Flynn stated.
"Following the compilation of the above information, the [Crossfire Hurricane] team determined that [Flynn] was no longer a viable candidate as part of the larger CROSSFIRE HURRICANE umbrella case," the memo continued. "A review of logical [redacted] databases did not yield any information on which to predicate further investigative efforts."
"The FBI is closing this investigation," the memo concluded.
Text messages included in the latest court filings in Flynn’s ongoing criminal case show that Peter Strzok, who was fired from the FBI for misconduct, ordered an unnamed associate managing the investigation to not close the Flynn investigation, notwithstanding the fact that the FBI concluded there was no legal or factual basis to continue its investigation of Flynn.
"Hey if you haven't closed RAZOR, don’t do so yet," Strzok texted at 2:14 p.m. on January 4, 2017.
"Razor still open," Strzok immediately texted to Lisa Page, a former assistant to fired former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe

More at the link, including imaged of the documents. Strzok admits to Page that he completely "rewrote" the reports, supposedly to preserve "the voice" of the original writer, but more likely to hide the original writer's exoneration of Flynn.

I forget where I saw it, but I read someone either speculating or specu-leaking that this was the moment that Deep State Operative Stephan Halper was paid (with government money) to invent a phony "Russian Dinner" pretext to keep the sham investigation over.

The "CHS" referred to here is probably Halper:

The memo also reported that the FBI used at least one confidential human source, or "CHS" in FBI lingo, to spy on Flynn during its investigation of him.

Trump in the meantime has cooked CNN. He says that Flynn has been "totally exonerated" and was set up by "dirty filthy cops at the head of the FBI."

He urges Jim Acosta and CNN to cover the story and cover it honestly.

Yeah, good luck on that, Drumpf.

President Trump on Gen. Flynn: "CNN tormented him." pic.twitter.com/1gn8KbSogi
— The Hill (@thehill) April 30, 2020

Correct:

Give me a few FBI agents & a federal grand jury, and I'd have you & your friends confessing to federal crimes in a few minutes.
— Robert Barnes (@Barnes_Law) April 30, 2020

Posted by: Ace at 02:38 PM

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1 Hola

Posted by: runner at April 30, 2020 02:39 PM (zr5Kq)

2 Average neck length in Washington is just too short.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 30, 2020 02:39 PM (oVJmc)

3 What now ??

Posted by: runner at April 30, 2020 02:39 PM (zr5Kq)

4 Until i see people in handcuffs this is more fail theatre

Posted by: Mr pink at April 30, 2020 02:40 PM (OrqDQ)

5 Win with Flynn

Posted by: illiniwek at April 30, 2020 02:40 PM (Cus5s)

6 This summer should be interesting. After all these years of waiting for justice to prevail, #twoweeks may finally be in the home stretch.

Posted by: Ann at April 30, 2020 02:41 PM (NDO5Q)

7 "dirty filthy cops at the head of the FBI."

Amazing coming from a sitting President.

Posted by: mr tmz at April 30, 2020 02:41 PM (m/Gc2)

8 Flynn will get his life back. But what about the coup leaders ?

Posted by: runner at April 30, 2020 02:41 PM (zr5Kq)

9 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 30, 2020 02:41 PM (UWqZJ)

10 Lisa Page is a solid 2 but even Strzok is beneath her - what in the world could she have seen in his prissy ass?

Posted by: batterup at April 30, 2020 02:41 PM (K4I9O)

11 "Dirty, filthy cops". Appropriate and on the money. So, when does Christopher Wray walk his resignation letter to the door?

Posted by: mrp at April 30, 2020 02:41 PM (Pqytn)

12 7 "dirty filthy cops at the head of the FBI."

Amazing coming from a sitting President.
____________

And all too true.

That's the sad part.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 30, 2020 02:41 PM (k4dH2)

13 Because "We will stop him" means "the American people".

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 02:41 PM (Eicbe)

14 Meanwhile, on Twitter:

Lisa Page @NatSecLisa - 17 h

I've been busy sending text messages.

https://tinyurl.com/y8s2rhug

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 02:42 PM (ptqGC)

15 "Drumpf"??

Seems a little harsh.......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 30, 2020 02:43 PM (jjaLl)

16
Every time Ace posts something about Crossfire.... I Hear "Crossfire" in Bob Novaks voice.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 02:43 PM (nw6Hr)

17 Hot dog! Got here before 300 hundred comments were posted!

Posted by: El Jefe at April 30, 2020 02:43 PM (Ae67h)

18 As I mentioned in the last thread, I believe the ops were named Crossfire because of their not-so-secret intent to target innocent people, who are in general the victims of what one would ever call "crossfire". Fight me.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 02:43 PM (ibRk/)

19 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 30, 2020 02:44 PM (arJlL)

20 disgusting

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 30, 2020 02:44 PM (CqHIp)

21 Ace how are you doing?

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 02:44 PM (j9HX3)

22

Acosta asked then why did you fire him?
The president should've said I gave the FBI and DOJ the benefit of the doubt; I trusted them.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 02:44 PM (b7jqk)

23 The lefties and NeverTrumpers (like Wittes and French) smugly note "Flynn was prepared to plead to the lying charges", as if that justifies this whole torturous mess. Of course, that little lie fails to note the context of his family financial resources having been exhausted, his son threatened with facing the rack next, and (just this one little thing), the fact that Flynn withdrew his plea and rolled the dice on Judge Sullivan giving him a fair hearing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at April 30, 2020 02:44 PM (NVYyb)

24 I'm confident super Christian David French will say something idiotic, predictable and infuriating about this, but when?

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 30, 2020 02:44 PM (Uu+Jp)

25 10 Lisa Page is a solid 2 but even Strzok is beneath her - what in the world could she have seen in his prissy ass?

she enjoys weilding a strap on

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 02:45 PM (j9HX3)

26 Lisa Page is a solid 2 but even Strzok is beneath her - what in the world could she have seen in his prissy ass?
Posted by: batterup at April 30, 2020 02:4

Do we know for sure she was his bang toy or was that a ruse to cover why they had so many messages showing up on management metrics reports?

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 02:45 PM (y7DUB)

27 The FBI will now be referred to as Dirty Filthy Cops (DFC) by order of the GEOTUS.

Posted by: pookysgirl, burninating Common Core at April 30, 2020 02:45 PM (XKZwp)

28 dirty filthy cops at the head of the FBI."

Amazing coming from a sitting President.

Posted by: mr tmz at April 30, 2020 02:

You know who that resonates with?

Posted by: Black Voters at April 30, 2020 02:45 PM (sQq+E)

29 I have hopes that someone, LOTS of someones will go to jail for this. (Though they certainly deserve to hang.)

I have those hopes because I want to believe my country is still a nation of laws.

However, I don't have much expectation that anyone will get anything but, at worst, fired, and then be given a mutli-million $$ book deal and a gig on CNN.

Posted by: Virginian at April 30, 2020 02:46 PM (Mg1/u)

30 Strzok has been indicted right? I mean they're hauling him off to court right now?

All I see is the stage being set for the next smash hit of Failure Theater.

Posted by: WOPR at April 30, 2020 02:46 PM (8gxHl)

31 27 Lisa Page is a solid 2 but even Strzok is beneath her - what in the world could she have seen in his prissy ass?
Posted by: batterup at April 30, 2020 02:4

Do we know for sure she was his bang toy or was that a ruse to cover why they had so many messages showing up on management metrics reports?
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 02:45 PM (y7DUB)

Great point. I believe he's still married to wife#1. That would explain at least some of this.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2020 02:46 PM (iuFgi)

32 we don't need to replace the FBI

just disband it

US Marshals take over what can't be just sent back to states

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 02:46 PM (j9HX3)

33 Do we know for sure she was his bang toy or was that
a ruse to cover why they had so many messages showing up on management
metrics reports?

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 02:45 PM (y7DUB)

This has always been likely.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 02:46 PM (ibRk/)

34 Wray has had to have known about this for the entire 3 years. He was in on it. If it's true that he and Boente fought to keep these from being released, they both need to be fired very quickly - because they haven't changed sides at all, they're still dirty.

Posted by: The Tom Servo Project at April 30, 2020 02:46 PM (trdmm)

35 Necks need to be stretched.

Strozik has a magnificent neck.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2020 02:47 PM (Z4rgH)

36 Do we know for sure she was his bang toy or was that a ruse to cover why they had so many messages showing up on management metrics reports?
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 02:45 PM (y7DUB)

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No.... The adultery was real. Mrs Strozk found out about it by looking at his phone.

I'd say Pete is pretty incompetent at the whole intel/security thingy...

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 02:47 PM (nw6Hr)

37 btw AGAIN I agree with Mr Three Dots

Crossfire refers to us, to other innocent parties, what we would be "caught in" during the IC Wars

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 02:47 PM (j9HX3)

38 The IC Wars... which included Las Vegas Op

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 02:47 PM (j9HX3)

39 One fact emerging from all this is Stefan Halper lied in re his actual personal knowledge of the infamous dinner and cab ride story Any and all intel he supplied to any agency in connection with any other case should be reexamined in that light.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at April 30, 2020 02:48 PM (NVYyb)

40 All I see is the stage being set for the next smash hit of Failure Theater.
Posted by: WOPR at April 30, 2020 02:46 PM (8gxHl)

Now THAT'S What I Call Failure Theatre 48!

Posted by: Dark Helmet at April 30, 2020 02:48 PM (Oka5v)

41 Wasn't it Ace who said "We have A system of Justice, it isn't the ONLY system of Justice. There was another one that preceded it", or something to that effect....

Posted by: Hawkpilot at April 30, 2020 02:48 PM (xwFYh)

42 Well Wray is really concerned about whether people think the FBI has integrity.

If people saw all the dirty crap they did they might think otherwise.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2020 02:48 PM (ZfRYq)

43 Oh yeah I forgot Mrs. Strzok supposedly turned him in.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 02:48 PM (ibRk/)

44 Willowed from thread below:

I hope The Right finally starts waking up to the stark reality that agents of The Police State are not friends and certainly don't deserve the nearly reflexive and unthinking support they get all the time.
Posted by: I Have Questions

If you're waiting for the right hand to chastise and punish the left hand, you will wait unto eternity. They are both appendages of the same corpulent obese body politic feeding itself at the trough from sustenance provided by us. Time to kill the body, not merely cut off a hand.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...safety off at April 30, 2020 02:48 PM (3ptRC)

45 >>24 I'm confident super Christian David French will say something idiotic, predictable and infuriating about this, but when?

He already did. He linked the "libertarian" popehat jerking off over what a GREAT JOB the FBI agents did and said something like, "I endorse this thread."

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 02:48 PM (PbpT7)

46 IC money either goes to XiNN talking heads or directly to management.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (ZOvGr)

47 But, but, TOP.MEN!

Lavrenti looks up from Hell in awe and admiration!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (jnM20)

48 43 Oh yeah I forgot Mrs. Strzok supposedly turned him in.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 02:48 PM (ibRk/)

Gumsy Gumshoe - Take a Bite Out of Crime!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (s2VJv)

49 Strzok grew up in Iran.

Pages mother: Iranian.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (ZfRYq)

50 Wow, from that Twitter thread, Strzok's wife, Lisa Hodgman, bears a strong resemblance to Huma Abedin.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Not anyone's handmaid at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (kXoT0)

51 The C1-C2 stuff on Stroznik's neck need a thorough excising.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (Z4rgH)

52 I guess I don't understand FBI chain of command. How is this Stroke character in a position to override anything?

What was his title? I thought he was just General Special Agent Flunky Guy.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (hku12)

53 The whole story is now under LOCKDOWN.

The codename for the lockdown is Operation Squirrel!

Posted by: zombie at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (N9G0H)

54 No.... The adultery was real. Mrs Strozk found out about it by looking at his phone.

I'd say Pete is pretty incompetent at the whole intel/security thingy...
Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 02:47 PM (nw6Hr)
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Well, I'd say he's an incompetent FBI agent, otherwise why would he be the bitter office drone he is?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (WEBkv)

55 No.... The adultery was real. Mrs Strozk found out about it by looking at his phone.

I'd say Pete is pretty incompetent at the whole intel/security thingy...
Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 02:47 PM (nw6Hr)

Top.Men.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (y7DUB)

56 49 Strzok grew up in Iran.

Pages mother: Iranian.
Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (ZfRYq)

"What are the odds, right?!"

- - Valerie Ferret

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (s2VJv)

57 >>>43 Oh yeah I forgot Mrs. Strzok supposedly turned him in.

? I don't remember.

I have heard through Informed Sources that Mrs. Strzok discovered that ANOTHER woman, this one a reporter at CNN, had left a tablet or computer in Strzok's bedroom or some other hard-to-explain place.

I find that hard to believe because, Look At Him.

Still, I have pretty decent sourcing for that.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (PbpT7)

58 And Strzok handled the Hillary Email investigation.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (oVJmc)

59

The IC Wars... which included Las Vegas Op
Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity

FBI also went out of their way to ignore Nick Cruz.
They wanted him to do it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (b7jqk)

60 I wonder if Flynn would accept being Trump's National Security Advisor again.

Part of me thinks he would be insane to take that position after all the hell he went through the first time.

And considering that it was actual agencies* of the federal government that engaged in a criminal conspiracy to destroy him, it would be crazy to get anywhere near that den of vipers again.

And yet...on a symbolic level, as a the final thread of the denouement of this national play, having Flynn back in his old position has a certain appropriate...symbolism?

*Yes, technically, it was individuals in the agencies, not the agencies themselves that conspired against Trump, but the individuals were so high placed, and had so many co-conspirators...that it doesn't feel wrong to say the agencies themselves conspired against Trump.

Posted by: El Jefe at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (Ae67h)

61 18 As I mentioned in the last thread, I believe the ops were named Crossfire because of their not-so-secret intent to target innocent people, who are in general the victims of what one would ever call "crossfire". Fight me.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 02:43 PM (ibRk/)

I actually believe it's a lot more petty and stupid than that. I think they came up with "Crossfire Hurricane" because it was a lyric in "Jumping Jack Flash" by the Stones, and that in turn was a mostly forgettable Spy movie with Whoopie Goldberg back in the 80's. And they could tell themselves "ooh we're big stars in our own little Jumpin' Jack Flash movie".

really, I think that's how petty they were.

Posted by: The Tom Servo Project at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (trdmm)

62 I do so want to see Peter Strzok in orange jump suit

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (ZCEU2)

63 You know who that resonates with?
Posted by: Black Voters at April 30, 2020 02:45 PM (sQq+E)

That's an *excellent* point that didn't occur to me, and actually explains why Trump is far more popular with black men than black women.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (ZGrMX)

64 He already did. He linked the "libertarian" popehat
jerking off over what a GREAT JOB the FBI agents did and said something
like, "I endorse this thread."

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 02:48 PM (PbpT7)

Ah, Popehat, the lawyer writing essays on "conservatism" that will work this time if we just try harder and Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: WOPR at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (8gxHl)

65 I think it's weird Flynn would have chosen a law firm (initially) who had Eric Holder as a partner.

Coincidence they sucked? I don't think so.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (jUVms)

66 Well Wray is really concerned about whether people think the FBI has integrity.

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See ....thats whats wrong with pointy headed top level administrators.

He's concerned that people THINK the FBI has integrity.

He should be concerned whether the FBI HAS actual honest to goodness integrity.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 02:51 PM (nw6Hr)

67 44: Unfortunately the body is still getting paid

Posted by: Mog Smash at April 30, 2020 02:51 PM (CgFRV)

68 53
The whole story is now under LOCKDOWN.

The codename for the lockdown is Operation Squirrel!

Posted by: zombie at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (N9G0H)

I thought it was Squid.

Posted by: Cannibal Glob at April 30, 2020 02:51 PM (4tEsR)

69 tar

feathers

rope

torches

burn

scatter

salt

nuke

twice...

Posted by: SturmToddler at April 30, 2020 02:51 PM (8D42x)

70 David French is a priss. Real Christianity is not prissy.

Jesus was criticized for dining with prostitutes (extreme permissiveness) and tax collectors (extreme oppressiveness).

If he thinks Trump is such a sinner--and really that should be judged with relative effectiveness of said sinner in a secular office--he should be trying to instruct him, not siding with the party that booed God. And has this curious tick of "FUCK YOUR PRAYERS! MAO DIDN"T NEED PRAYERS!!"

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 02:51 PM (Eicbe)

71 Lavrenti looks up from Hell in awe and admiration!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (jnM20)

Lavrenti?

Hell, Machiavelli is standing next to him with his mouth agape in total admiration at the complete and utter chutzpah.

Posted by: jakee308 at April 30, 2020 02:51 PM (OikrH)

72 Ace, Lisa Page got ripped to shreds on Twitter:

https://tinyurl.com/y8s2rhug

It's fabulous.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 02:51 PM (ptqGC)

73 I have heard through Informed Sources that Mrs. Strzok discovered that ANOTHER woman, this one a reporter at CNN, had left a tablet or computer in Strzok's bedroom or some other hard-to-explain place.

How bad do you have to be in bed for your partner to bring a tablet or computer to bed with you?

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 30, 2020 02:51 PM (Uu+Jp)

74 Susan Rice sat in that January, 2017 meeting with Barry. In the final hours before President Trump took the oath of office, the White House Counsel's office ordered her to write a memo reporting that Barry expected his henchpeople to restrict Trump's access to certain intelligence activity, "by the book".

Posted by: mrp at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (Pqytn)

75 18 As I mentioned in the last thread, I believe the ops were named Crossfire because of their not-so-secret intent to target innocent people, who are in general the victims of what one would ever call "crossfire". Fight me.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 02:43 PM (ibRk/)

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Why fight you?

I think we should publicize this interpretation.

"It was called crossfire, because it caught and harmed innocent people."

Posted by: rd at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (+0uDE)

76
Elicit Milano just called and said she can't imagine Stroke doing this.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (b7jqk)

77 The adultery was real. Mrs Strozk found out about it by looking at his phone.

Yeah, I remember that. No wonder the intelligence community is a laughingstock.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (ZGrMX)

78 Fight me.*
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 02:43 PM (ibRk/)

Anyone on twitter that actually says Fight me is to weak to fight and hasn't ever.

Another phrase I won't miss although it is good for who it reveals.

*not you, of course.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (z79tQ)

79 Does DC have enough lamp posts to decorate with the corpses of the villains that perpetrated this attempted coup? I'm just about done.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (yX3gx)

80 Stone is scheduled for sentencing today.

Avenatti is out of prison after multiple convictions, with many trials to come. CCP virus, dontcha know.

One has to wonder, is any justice to come?

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (Z4rgH)

81 Posted by: SturmToddler at April 30, 2020 02:51 PM (8D42x)
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*fistbump*

Word.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (WEBkv)

82 did any of you guys see the Twitter thing "Popehat a Movie"?

well it was kinda funny

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (j9HX3)

83 Chuck Todd tried to spin away the earlier email drop. Can't wait for his self correction

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (9TdxA)

84 The MSM will bury the story, just like they're burying Joe the Finger Raper.

Their new job is to keep us afraid all the time, so we will stay in our houses and become completely dependent on the gubbermint.

Posted by: shibumi says CV19 is about control and a one world government at April 30, 2020 02:53 PM (ZCiJZ)

85 I forget the back ground on Obama's contempt for Flynn. Was it an assessment he made on the viability of dealing with Iran or something like that?

Posted by: DanMan at April 30, 2020 02:53 PM (XTiHL)

86 Continue preparing to be disappointed

Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 30, 2020 02:53 PM (iTXRQ)

87 I do so want to see Peter Strzok in orange jump suit

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (ZCEU2)
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That wouldn't be lasting if he assumed his flame form.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 02:53 PM (Eicbe)

88 Peter Stroke ... is that his real name, of his undercover stripper name?

Page and Strzok have Iran connections ... Brennan has commie and Islam connections ... Comey has college commie connections, and he loves quoting commie friendly Niebuhr. ... Our FBI was thoroughly infiltrated, it would seem ... of course they would run a coup ... (probably not their first)

Posted by: illiniwek at April 30, 2020 02:53 PM (Cus5s)

89 The IC Wars... which included Las Vegas Op
Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 02:47 PM (j9HX3)

The Las Vegas thing, particularly the offhanded coverup, still fills me with a cold dark seething rage.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 02:53 PM (y7DUB)

90 >>Susan Rice sat in that January, 2017 meeting with Barry. In the final hours before President Trump took the oath of office, the White House Counsel's office ordered her to write a memo reporting that Barry expected his henchpeople to restrict Trump's access to certain intelligence activity, "by the book".

Joe Biden was in that meeting.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 02:53 PM (ZLI7S)

91 74 Susan Rice sat in that January, 2017 meeting with Barry. In the final hours before President Trump took the oath of office, the White House Counsel's office ordered her to write a memo reporting that Barry expected his henchpeople to restrict Trump's access to certain intelligence activity, "by the book".
Posted by: mrp at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (Pqytn)

===========

Remember that picture of the Obama White House staff looking on as Trump walked up to the executive mansion for the first time?

I like that picture.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (UWqZJ)

92 So no wonder Flynn was so trusting in his initial meeting with the rats Strzok and Pientka. The initial decision to "close" the investigation and the WP article (apparently published the day before the interview) reflecting same would tend to be reassuring.

These people are beyond evil.

And, I hope (though don't expect) someone is probing who besides McCabe was prompting Strzok to "reopen" a closed investigation and rewrite reports.

Valerie Jarrett? Obummer?

Posted by: groovygirl at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (ybC9u)

93 tar

feathers

rope

torches

burn

scatter

salt

nuke

twice...
Posted by: SturmToddler

make

rubble

bounce...

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (2VADA)

94 Fight me.*
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 02:43 PM (ibRk/)
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Pow! Zonk! Wang!

Posted by: Adam West Batman at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (Eicbe)

95 "You're damn right I ordered the Flynn Dead!" -- Peter Przik

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (2aYYl)

96 I find that hard to believe because, Look At Him.
==========
I know this will come as a surprise to everyone here, but some women just aren't very nice and will do anything - ANYTHING - to get what they want.

Posted by: PennaLady at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (8HBLI)

97 Page was banging everyone... All the James Bakers, Strzok, I'm sure McCabe... I mean just all the James Balers would be enough for a porn feature, "Flabulous Baker Bouys"

Posted by: Inogame at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (+2xjH)

98 I find that hard to believe because, Look At Him.

Still, I have pretty decent sourcing for that.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (PbpT7)
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Another reporter sleeping with a source.

Wasn't an NYT reporter caught doing same in the last couple of years?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (WEBkv)

99 And perhaps all of this is coming about because of good rank-and-file people in the FBI and/or the DOJ. If so, thank you.

Posted by: mrp at April 30, 2020 02:55 PM (Pqytn)

100 So...you're expecting some kind of result? Something heartening, something like justice? Something you can point to and say, "You see kids? This is STILL America!" That's what would make you happy, is it?

*chuckles smugly*

*tousles your hair*

*walks away whistling*

Posted by: The federal government at April 30, 2020 02:55 PM (ldmQR)

101 You know that inscription on the Supreme Court building? The one that reads 'equal justice under law'?

psst...
come here...
(it's not true!)

Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 30, 2020 02:55 PM (iTXRQ)

102 Hanging probably won't get the point across how much trying to depose a king is a blood game.

Guillotine.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2020 02:55 PM (84uGZ)

103 Trump got 54k more votes than Biden in the Ohio primary this week .

Posted by: Ha at April 30, 2020 02:55 PM (sQq+E)

104 Find out if your congress critters have foreigners working for them. I don't mean Mick Jones.

Posted by: klaftern at April 30, 2020 02:55 PM (RuIsu)

105 Barry expected his henchpeople to restrict Trump's access to certain intelligence activity, "by the book".
Posted by: mrp at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (Pqytn)

Obama channels James T Kirk.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 30, 2020 02:55 PM (e1mEI)

106 "Trump in the meantime has cooked CNN. He says that Flynn has been
"totally exonerated" and was set up by "dirty filthy cops at the head of
the FBI."

He urges Jim Acosta and CNN to cover the story and cover it honestly."

And thus the story gets out there and the drip, drip, drip continues, making sure that it spreads far and wide and that more people hear of it. A story that gets spread out over a long time with bits and pieces coming out is more far-reaching than one that brings all out in one bang and then can be buried since there is nothing new following it up.

I think I will give the benefit of the doubt on how to proceed to the master marketer, salesman, and showman.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Go Nuts with Hermit's Harangues from the Outrage Outlet! at April 30, 2020 02:56 PM (sGfPf)

107 Here's an epic crossing of memes: It seems that the co-conspirators were using the comments section in Star Wars Commander (and other on line games, apparently) to communicate.
And this little factoid was dropped a few days ago. They must feel the same way they felt when it was dropped that Nellie Ohr's ham radio was a means of communication.
Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall!

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 02:56 PM (AwPyG)

108 Stephen McIntyre, an intrepid investigator, notes that in new redacted Flynn Docs, one of the redacted names is almost CERTAINLY Kevin Clinesmith, the crooked lawyer who forged change to CIA email about Carter Page.

If Clinesmith was also involved in Flynn's prosecution, it's game over, Man.

What are the odds that the same corrupt people were involved with all of the Trump investigation cases AND the Hillary investigation cases? Certain. Because it was all a political set-up, pro-Hillary, anti-Trump., and the bad actors have (and continue) to try hide the criminal conduct.

See https://tinyurl.com/y9nhugej

** Spread McIntyre's tweet around... I don't have twitter or facebook

Posted by: RichardWindsor at April 30, 2020 02:56 PM (DRgs8)

109 Fight me.*
Posted by: ...

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Pow! Zonk! Wang!
Posted by: Adam West Batman

Is this a fight or a porn shoot?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 02:56 PM (2VADA)

110 : Unfortunately the body is still getting paid
Posted by: Mog Smash

Hard for the king's tax collector to do his job when he is framed within the reticle .

Posted by: Sock Monkey...safety off at April 30, 2020 02:56 PM (3ptRC)

111 Necks need to be stretched.

__________

Hillary has an app for that.

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 30, 2020 02:56 PM (2aYYl)

112 You know sooner or later someone is going to take care of business if none of these people go to jail.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 02:56 PM (JUOKG)

113 And, I hope (though don't expect) someone is probing
who besides McCabe was prompting Strzok to "reopen" a closed
investigation and rewrite reports.

Valerie Jarrett? Obummer?

Posted by: groovygirl at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (ybC9u)

That was probably John Brennan..... Peter Strokes was some sort of "liaison" from the FBI to the CIA, even earned some kind of faggy CIA pin or something.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (jjaLl)

114 "Drumpf"?? Seems a little harsh.......

****

Ace has been in a cranky mood ever since the shelves he tried to build filed a restraining order against him.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning Into a Karen at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (+dsLj)

115 49 Strzok grew up in Iran.

Pages mother: Iranian.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (ZfRYq)

Have you got some certifications?
The best I could find was Geller but she gave no links to commonly acceptable sources.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (ZOvGr)

116 7 "dirty filthy cops at the head of the FBI."

Amazing coming from a sitting President.
Posted by: mr tmz at April 30, 2020 02:41 PM (m/Gc2)

++++++++++++++

11 "Dirty, filthy cops". Appropriate and on the money. So, when does Christopher Wray walk his resignation letter to the door?
Posted by: mrp at April 30, 2020 02:41 PM (Pqytn)

******

I would thing (and I'm sure you would agree) that him being perp-walked in handcuffs out of the door would be better.

Posted by: El Jefe at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (Ae67h)

117

All this will go away very soon and we'll be back on Defense as the House Democrats and Deep state begin their next fake investigation into the president while Barr twiddles his fat thumbs.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (78llE)

118 Where was the one honest, low level FBI agent who knew what was going on but sat with his/her thumb up their ass without whistleblowing?

Fuck them all.

Fire them all. Clean out the entire agency and start from scratch.

Same with the CIA, who hasn't been right on any fucking thing in 50 years.

Then clean out the IRS, those partisan crooks.

And for god's sake, fire every motherfucker in the State Department.

We've closed the private sector, now it's time to close the government and start fresh.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (mrrpT)

119 You know that inscription on the Supreme Court building? The one that reads 'equal justice under law'?
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Judges 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes. (ESV)

That's what happens when Elvis has left the building.

Posted by: Adam West Batman at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (Eicbe)

120 Popehat can suck my Rebel dick.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (Z4rgH)

121 I am working my through the documents that people helpfully linked in the last thread. What is really telling to me is just how many ops they were running. From my knowledge and reading (incomplete in the first case, often incompetent in the latter), I have come up with these:

CROSSFIRE HURRICANE: Op against Trump
CROSSFIRE RAZOR: Op against Flynn
CROSSFIRE TYPHOON: Op against someone - maybe Papadapolous?
CROSS WIND: Op against ?

And then, what makes me *very* suspicious, is whatever op Strozk mentioned in place of "RAZOR" that got redacted - another Op (or maybe person, but I lean toward 'op') that is probably related.

So my question on this, which is a repeat from the last thread, is "how many ops were there?"

HURRICANE is old news. RAZOR, TYPHOON, CROSS WIND are new - at least to me. The redacted op in Strozk's text to Page is another. How many ops were they running against their opponents? Just how wide was the corrupt dragnet? Were there other series besides CROSS* that targeted orbits besides Trump's?

The thing I find incredibly distressing in this new stuff - beyond the coup attempt - is how many ops they were running and against how many targets. This is disgusting and necks need to be stretched indeed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 02:58 PM (hYcqw)

122 98 I find that hard to believe because, Look At Him.

Still, I have pretty decent sourcing for that.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (PbpT7)
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Another reporter sleeping with a source.

Wasn't an NYT reporter caught doing same in the last couple of years?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (WEBkv)

And they had a fit about the scene in Eastwood's movie of the reporter banging her source.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 02:58 PM (WqCOQ)

123 Biden will be Biden has to be the gaffe of the year.

Posted by: Ha at April 30, 2020 02:58 PM (sQq+E)

124 117

All this will go away very soon and we'll be back on Defense as the House Democrats and Deep state begin their next fake investigation into the president while Barr twiddles his fat thumbs.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (78llE)

==========

If House Democrats ever go back to DC.

Meanwhile, Senate Republicans will show up on Monday and start confirming judges again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 30, 2020 02:58 PM (UWqZJ)

125 Nixon just emailed me and said if Barack isn't crucified then institutional racism is a fucking hoax and a grift.

Posted by: x at April 30, 2020 02:58 PM (nFwvY)

126 >>That was probably John Brennan..... Peter Strokes was some sort of "liaison" from the FBI to the CIA, even earned some kind of faggy CIA pin or something.....

Brennan set up what he called, without irony apparently, a Fusion group that included people from the FBI and CIA and perhaps others. Strzok was in that group.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 02:58 PM (ZLI7S)

127
btw, is Vindman still hoping to be Ukraine's defense secretary?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 02:58 PM (78llE)

128 The people running somnambulant McCain were pretty well into this too.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM (l6b3d)

129 Bring back duelling.

With tanks.

My money is on Flynn against all the assholes who framed him.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM (4YXoy)

130 "The FBI is closing this investigation," the memo concluded.

Can we just open investigations on whomever we want, is that how this works? Because I have some ideas.

Posted by: t-bird at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM (AytXr)

131 118 Where was the one honest, low level FBI agent who knew what was going on but sat with his/her thumb up their ass without whistleblowing?

Fuck them all.

Fire them all. Clean out the entire agency and start from scratch.

Jwest, can't we just pay them more money? More money, and they'd be bound to be honest.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM (Z4rgH)

132 All this will go away very soon and we'll be back on Defense as the House Democrats and Deep state begin their next fake investigation into the president while Barr twiddles his fat thumbs.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (78llE)
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That's because giving up only works for honest players.

It doesn't work for zealots. If you win one round, you have to win the next, and the next, and the next.

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,

Kinda like that.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM (Eicbe)

133 I hope Flynn comes away from this nightmare a very, very wealthy man.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM (ptqGC)

134 Strzok grew up in Iran.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (ZfRYq)

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Moved out of Iran at age 8. Hard to say he "grew up" in Iran.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM (NVYyb)

135 Here's an epic crossing of memes: It seems that the co-conspirators were using the comments section in Star Wars Commander (and other on line games, apparently) to communicate.
And this little factoid was dropped a few days ago. They must feel the same way they felt when it was dropped that Nellie Ohr's ham radio was a means of communication.
Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall!
Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 02:56 PM (AwPyG)
++++++++
If they were using a channel like that, you can be sure there were any number of Chinese "flies" on the wall. Probably Russian, Iranian and various other "flies" as well.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:00 PM (hYcqw)

136 131 118 Where was the one honest, low level FBI agent who knew what was going on but sat with his/her thumb up their ass without whistleblowing?

Fuck them all.

Fire them all. Clean out the entire agency and start from scratch.

Jwest, can't we just pay them more money? More money, and they'd be bound to be honest.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM (Z4rgH)

Burn.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:00 PM (WqCOQ)

137 10-Feb-17

Page to Strzok: This document pisses me off.? You didn't even attempt to make this cogent and readable.? This is lazy work on your part.

Strzok to Page: Lisa, you didn't see it before my edits that went into what I sent you. 1) I was trying to completely re-write the thing to save XXXX voice and 2) get it out to you for general review and comment in anticipation of needing it soon. I greatly appreciate you time in reviewing and your edits. I incorporated them. Thank you.

Strzok to Page: should say 1) trying not to completely re-write...

I thought Page said she 'only made grammatical corrections'?

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 03:00 PM (cF8AT)

138 At the same time, the FBI also "initiated surveillance on a certain
Russian subject" to determine whether "there was contact between him and
[Flynn]."

__________

So Trump then? Case closed!

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 30, 2020 03:00 PM (2aYYl)

139 If they were using a channel like that, you can be sure there were any number of Chinese "flies" on the wall. Probably Russian, Iranian and various other "flies" as well.

Mannix you're a sharp guy.

That is probably definitely true.

And chilling.

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 03:00 PM (j9HX3)

140 "Razor still open," Strzok immediately texted to Lisa Page, a former assistant to fired former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe

****************

Deep state asked for a miracle I give you the

F

B

I

Posted by: Hans Gruber at April 30, 2020 03:01 PM (+dsLj)

141 The FBI needs to be humiliated and emasculated.

Replace them with a brand new organization, that is not allowed to hire or contract with anyone that was a member of or contractor to the FBI, or spouse, sibling, parent or child, or niece or nephew of anyone in the FBI.

Assign the FBI to some limited, but neglected Federal Law Enforcement tasks. My suggestion is finding missing Native American women and children. A noble, neglected task, and 5,000 victims every year.

Better hurting the feelings of 35,000 FBI agents and all the retirees than have a revolution and execute them all.

Posted by: rd at April 30, 2020 03:01 PM (+0uDE)

142
Yeah, but there is a new fake investigation in the House about to commence. I'm not pulling that outta my ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 03:01 PM (78llE)

143 The worst is Comey being interviewed on stage in front of dumb audience admitting that he bet no protocols were in place yet for Trump's new administration so he sent over a couple of agents to interview Flynn.

Flynn said yes, he didn't have to, he was going to lie about anything. He could have said no.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 30, 2020 03:01 PM (jUVms)

144 HURRICANE is old news. RAZOR, TYPHOON, CROSS WIND are new - at least to me. The redacted op in Strozk's text to Page is another. How many ops were they running against their opponents? Just how wide was the corrupt dragnet? Were there other series besides CROSS* that targeted orbits besides Trump's?

The thing I find incredibly distressing in this new stuff - beyond the coup attempt - is how many ops they were running and against how many targets. This is disgusting and necks need to be stretched indeed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 02:58 PM (hYcqw)

A more cynical type then me may think these kinds of Ops are common place and have been for a long time in DC.

Remember what Schumer told Trump (paraphrasing) -- dont go after the intelligence community, they have a million ways to screw you over.

I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI and CIA and NSA and whoever else were running similar ops against everyone running for president, and all of their people, and nor would I be surprised to find out that's been standard operating procedure for a long time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:01 PM (ZkXld)

145 It's funny, ironic and meta that they used Crossfire in all of their "investigations" to take the President out.

Karma may be a bitch that's served cold in space after all.

Posted by: Larry Mondello at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (cPWGb)

146 This Peter Strzok fellow just might be a homo.

Posted by: J. Edgar Hoover at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (sWM8x)

147 Fkin plumbing leak, always has to be in a harder place to get to, doable just never easy.

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (ZCEU2)

148 These last few years have been a slow process of realizing that there is no point where the opposition will look up and say "You know, you are right".

There will be no conversions. Just the next fight.

It's pretty much what the Frankfort School at a high-level advised their revolutionaries.

The thing is that in classic Marxist terms Alinskyism is pure *reactionary* tactics. Deny, obfuscate, stall, demand....

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (Eicbe)

149 I meant Flynn was NOT going to lie about anything.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (jUVms)

150 You know sooner or later someone is going to take care of business if none of these people go to jail.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 02:56 PM (JUOKG)

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Oh.... which Mitch Rapp book was it that the good guys started whacking dirty players.

Executive Order???

I know down that path lies madness.... but.... stil.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (nw6Hr)

151 141 The FBI needs to be humiliated and emasculated.

Replace them with a brand new organization, that is not allowed to hire or contract with anyone that was a member of or contractor to the FBI, or spouse, sibling, parent or child, or niece or nephew of anyone in the FBI.

Assign the FBI to some limited, but neglected Federal Law Enforcement tasks. My suggestion is finding missing Native American women and children. A noble, neglected task, and 5,000 victims every year.

Better hurting the feelings of 35,000 FBI agents and all the retirees than have a revolution and execute them all.
Posted by: rd at April 30, 2020 03:01 PM (+0uDE)

I suspect that this goes WELL beyond on the FBI.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (ZkXld)

152 Rope, trap door, drop

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:03 PM (85Gof)

153 I'm so looking forward to my fuck you vote for trump.

Posted by: Mog Smash at April 30, 2020 03:03 PM (CgFRV)

154 134 Strzok grew up in Iran.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (ZfRYq)

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Moved out of Iran at age 8. Hard to say he "grew up" in Iran.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker

OK, grew up in Iran and America, became a traitor, what a fucking surprise.

Posted by: x at April 30, 2020 03:03 PM (nFwvY)

155 I guess I don't understand FBI chain of command. How is this Stroke character in a position to override anything?

What was his title? I thought he was just General Special Agent Flunky Guy.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (hku12)

IIRC, He was like a deputy counter intel guy or something pretty high up.

but it is amazing that he had his hand in ALL of these high profile cases like Hillary, Flynn, Trump, etc.

I mean, don't they have more than guy that should be working on these?

Posted by: SturmToddler at April 30, 2020 03:03 PM (8D42x)

156 Please add "Obama" to that title.

As in "Deranged Obama Political Operative."

'Cause if, "The White House" needed to be in the loop, which we all know means Oberfuehrer V. Jarrett, then President MomJeans knew the score.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 30, 2020 03:04 PM (+fPHo)

157 I suspect that this goes WELL beyond on the FBI.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (ZkXld)
+++++++++
At *very* least FBI and CIA. Probably NSA, too. Who knows how far it goes.

This is why I don't think there will ever be anything approaching justice. Corruption itself has become the system. If they attempt to root out the corruption, the entire edifice will come down - and they won't bring the edifice down. Not even the hypothetical "good guys" will do that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:04 PM (hYcqw)

158 I find that hard to believe because, Look At Him.
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I know this will come as a surprise to everyone here, but some women just aren't very nice and will do anything - ANYTHING - to get what they want.
Posted by: PennaLady at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (8HBLI)

Thank God for the 'ettes to point out what filthy slutty cum dumpsters members of their sex can be unlike the cartoonish image we clueless dorks have.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 03:04 PM (y7DUB)

159 Jwest, can't we just pay them more money? More money, and they'd be bound to be honest.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM (Z4rgH)

If we had to recruit FBI agents from the professional class and required that they maintain two homes, yes we should pay them more.

When you can only get bored millionaires and bartenders to run for office, something is wrong.

Could you live on a congressman's salary? I could in 1984, but certainly not now.

When you give people an incentive to do their jobs, most time they do their jobs.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:04 PM (mrrpT)

160 Would it be so wrong if Strzok's rope was too short to snap his neck and he slowly strangled to death?

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 30, 2020 03:05 PM (Uu+Jp)

161
Fkin plumbing leak, always has to be in a harder place to get to, doable just never easy.
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (ZCEU2)

Just wait until you find out where the master water cut-off is...

Posted by: The Plumbing Fairies at April 30, 2020 03:05 PM (EGyGV)

162 Moved out of Iran at age 8. Hard to say he "grew up" in Iran.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM (NVYyb)

Being a goat-boy is tough in Iranistan. Grow up fast.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 30, 2020 03:05 PM (e1mEI)

163 >>IIRC, He was like a deputy counter intel guy or something pretty high up.

>>but it is amazing that he had his hand in ALL of these high profile cases like Hillary, Flynn, Trump, etc.

>>I mean, don't they have more than guy that should be working on these?

That was the entire point of the "small group". They knew what they were doing was highly illegal and they wanted to keep the number of people involved to a minimum.

That's why it is the same group of people involved in all these investigations run out of HQ rather than from various field offices.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 03:05 PM (ZLI7S)

164
Strzok grew up in Iran.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (ZfRYq)

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Moved out of Iran at age 8. Hard to say he "grew up" in Iran.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at April 30, 2020 02:59 PM

----

A lot of his early attitudes were developed by his experiences there.

I wonder what his attitude is towards the average citizen?

Posted by: rd at April 30, 2020 03:05 PM (+0uDE)

165
I would like to see people list which of the coup plotters they actually believe will face indictment and/or be significantly punished. Obama, Biden, Hillary, Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Rosenstein, McCabe, Strozk, Lisa Page, that man/wife team I can't remember, Steele, Halper, Mueller, Shearer, FISA court signers, FISA court judges, Susan Rice, L. Lynch, Mary McCord, Fusion GPS, Perkins-Coie, Bueller ?

Seriously, just name the ones that will face the music, not the ones that won't.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:05 PM (r+sAi)

166 The word on the street is that Peter Strzok has information that will lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:05 PM (EUWQM)

167 IIRC, He was like a deputy counter intel guy or something pretty high up.

but it is amazing that he had his hand in ALL of these high profile cases like Hillary, Flynn, Trump, etc.

I mean, don't they have more than guy that should be working on these?
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 30, 2020 03:03 PM (8D42x)

Let's say for the sake of argument that my border-line tinfoil hat theory about the intelligence agencies doing this to everyone is correct.

If that's true, then maybe Strzok was the FBI agent in charge of coordinating all of the anti-Trump "investigations" by the FBI.

In other words, maybe there were a dozen Strzok's, each coordinating similar ops against everyone else running for the nomination on the R side.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:06 PM (ZkXld)

168 Burn.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:00 PM (WqCOQ)

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2020 03:06 PM (Z4rgH)

169 And perhaps all of this is coming about because of good rank-and-file people in the FBI and/or the DOJ. If so, thank you.
Posted by: mrp at April 30, 2020 02:55 PM (Pqytn)

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No such animal.

When an organization is somewhat corrupted, there are plenty of good (usually clueless) people carrying its water. When an organization is *this* corrupt, there is no way to misread it. Every person there is either involved in the corruption, or maintaining silence about it to protect those who are.

For reference look at the 1970s NYPD, which was arguably (and amazingly) somehow cleaner than the modern DoJ.

If anything will clean it up, it'll be done the same way that was done... from the outside. Problem is, that was the DoJ who came after that case. There is no superseding authority to reform them. They can just kick back and laugh at all of this forever, as they've done for the last three+ years.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 30, 2020 03:06 PM (lJuMe)

170 Re:Strzok

Progressive women will bang anyone they perceive to be powerful. Also, nothing pisses them off more than a conservative woman pointing this out to them.

Posted by: Ktgreat at April 30, 2020 03:06 PM (AD3JT)

171 I suspect that this goes WELL beyond on the FBI.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (ZkXld)

Yup...The entire standing deep state bureaucracy needs to be torn down, burned, buried and started all over...really no other way

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:06 PM (85Gof)

172 The worst is Comey being interviewed on stage in front of dumb audience admitting that he bet no protocols were in place yet for Trump's new administration so he sent over a couple of agents to interview Flynn.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 30, 2020 03:01 PM (jUVms)
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Comey's duplicity is documented if anybody wants to pursue it.

He's both on record having said

1. He released his notes so that a special prosecutor could be appointed.

2. He just released his records to his lawyer, so it's really not a leak.

Without explaining to the American people how his lawyer would appoint a special prosecutor.

Comey is a publicly-admitted sleazebag if anybody would put the pieces together. "Thought we could get away with one" is not what somebody convicted by a "higher honor" says.

In those days there was no Journalism in America....

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:06 PM (Eicbe)

173 The word on the street is that Peter Strzok has information that will lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Grump928

His body to turn up in the Potomac in 5, 4, 3...

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 03:07 PM (2VADA)

174 ? I don't remember.

I have heard through Informed Sources that Mrs. Strzok discovered
that ANOTHER woman, this one a reporter at CNN, had left a tablet or
computer in Strzok's bedroom or some other hard-to-explain place.

I find that hard to believe because, Look At Him.

Still, I have pretty decent sourcing for that.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (PbpT7)

It was only what I'd heard. Probably from a few commenters here, honestly. If it's not true then, yeah, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the love thing is just a cover story.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 03:07 PM (ibRk/)

175 Could you live on a congressman's salary? I could in 1984, but certainly not now.

When you give people an incentive to do their jobs, most time they do their jobs.
Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:04 PM (mrrpT)
+++++++++++
Go the other way. They're all corrupt and on the take. Fine. That corruption and graft needs to be contained to reasonable levels.

In pursuit of that, pay them nothing but make their books open. A congressmen who doesn't do too bad a job and is stealing a quarter million or so per year will probably get re-elected. A congressman stealing millions probably won't be - he got too greedy and sold out too much.

They're committing fraud and taking bribes anyway, so make it the single source of income and force their books - and the books of everyone in their families and orbits - open and make it their sole source of income.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:07 PM (hYcqw)

176
The word on the street is that Peter Strzok has information that will lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Grump928(c)

Are you the Shoe Shiner guy on Police Squad?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 03:07 PM (78llE)

177 This is why I don't think there will ever be anything approaching justice. Corruption itself has become the system. If they attempt to root out the corruption, the entire edifice will come down - and they won't bring the edifice down. Not even the hypothetical "good guys" will do that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:04 PM (hYcqw)

Right, no one has an incentive to dig too much in to any of this.

Or, put another way -- anyone who potentially could do the digging would be scared they would become the next target.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:08 PM (ZkXld)

178 And he should have said "dirty filthy cops at the FBI directed by a dirty filthy White House. Can you believe it? A White House operation conspiring to damage an incoming administration. Hard to believe. CNN needs to report on this."

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 30, 2020 03:08 PM (+fPHo)

179 Could you live on a congressman's salary? I could in 1984, but certainly not now.

When you give people an incentive to do their jobs, most time they do their jobs.
Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:04 PM (mrrpT

Ok AOC.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:08 PM (WqCOQ)

180 You mean like Obstruction for deleting 33K emails under subpoena?

That could be devastating, if true.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:08 PM (Eicbe)

181 A while back, on one of the more disreputable sites I visit, someone posted a list of charges that were going to be levied against the gang in question. Most had several counts of lying under oath.

FWIW Brennan was the only one with a treason charge.

Posted by: shibumi says CV19 is about control and a one world government at April 30, 2020 03:08 PM (ZCiJZ)

182 >This is why I don't think there will ever be anything approaching justice. Corruption itself has become the system.

just think of the USGovt as Skynet
it is self-aware
it is self-perpetuating
it will not allow itself to come to harm

Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 30, 2020 03:08 PM (iTXRQ)

183 *not you, of course.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 30, 2020 02:52 PM (z79tQ)

LOL, there was a whole thing about the Bulwark Brigade using that phrase here.

I personally don't want any fight with anyone, because I can kill a man with one finger.

Granted it's Biden's finger after he's been alone with Pelosi but still.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 03:08 PM (ibRk/)

184 The word on the street is that Peter Strzok has information that will lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:05 PM (EUWQM)
~~~~~

Hah. If only.

I could probably be persuaded to give Strzok a deal if it meant Cankles would go to the big house.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (sGotD)

185 Could you live on a congressman's salary?

$174,000? Yeah. I could.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (EUWQM)

186 I don't want to see Comey and friends in orange jumpsuits. I want see them in coffins.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade a fucking ray of sunshine at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (bML9A)

187 How many 'ettes believe Strzok is hot?

https://tinyurl.com/yb4vr75b

He's coyote ugly.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (ptqGC)

188 OT, but a little church in Lena IL has just brought a federal lawsuit against Governor JB Pritzker for denying them their constitutional rights.
https://tinyurl.com/ybz4rsw8

Posted by: lizabth at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (L3Rsz)

189 Are you the Shoe Shiner guy on Police Squad?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 03:07 PM (78llE)
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I loved that bit--especially when the shoeshine guy would start giving 20s back.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (Eicbe)

190 Brennan doesn't have a neck. How do you hang him?

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (Uu+Jp)

191 When you give people an incentive to do their jobs, most time they do their jobs.
Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:04 PM (mrrpT)

Here's the incentive.
Second place is a set of steak knives.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (z79tQ)

192 Obama wanted Flynn penalized.

IIRC, didn't Page or Strozk say in a text that "the WH wants to know what's going on" or something to that effect?

Posted by: Steve in SoCal at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (Ozpxd)

193 FWIW Brennan was the only one with a treason charge.
Posted by: shibumi says CV19 is about control and a one world government at April 30, 2020 03:08 PM (ZCiJZ)
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Oh, how I wish.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (/669Q)

194 Reading those texts between Strozk and Page, they seemed extremely relieved the file on Flynn wasn't closed yet (due to "incompetence" in Page's words).

What would have happened if it was closed? Could they have proceeded with the WH meeting or not?

Posted by: Bif at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (yhv0Z)

195 Yup...The entire standing deep state bureaucracy needs to be torn down, burned, buried and started all over...really no other way
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:06 PM (85Gof)

How though?

As we can see, they have the real power in this country. And they certainly aren't going to volunteer to turn that over.

And even if we could force them to, who would they turn it over to?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (ZkXld)

196 They're committing fraud and taking bribes anyway, so make it the single source of income and force their books - and the books of everyone in their families and orbits - open and make it their sole source of income.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:07 PM (hYcqw)

How can you attract the type of person you would want in the job if they can't pay the bills?

Congressmen and Senators have a mid-level manager pay and the responsibility to raise and spend trillions. It just doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (mrrpT)

197 In Georgia we are a little more free at midnight tonight. Karens are probbaly fainting on their couches from this new danger. Hopefully they stay locked-in for another 6-months.

Posted by: Ripley at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (MxEKc)

198 WOW, JWest, you couldn't live on $174K a year?

Damn, that ventilator business must be going gangbusters......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (jjaLl)

199 179 Could you live on a congressman's salary? I could in 1984, but certainly not now.
Posted by: jwest

nice flexing

Posted by: x at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (nFwvY)

200 Strzok has an ugliness that no outward beauty could possibly cover. And he also has no outward beauty.

Posted by: lizabth at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (L3Rsz)

201 Could you live on a congressman's salary? I could in 1984, but certainly not now.

When you give people an incentive to do their jobs, most time they do their jobs.
Posted by: jwest

Texas seems to do just fine on $14,400 every two years.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (2VADA)

202 Brennan doesn't have a neck. How do you hang him?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (Uu+Jp)
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Like a butterfly.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (Eicbe)

203 @155
It's similar to how the same district judge always manages to be "drawn" for the coup criminal cases (like Stone's) despite it being against all odds.

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (AwPyG)

204 Brennan doesn't have a neck. How do you hang him?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (Uu+Jp)

He has a forehead and PDT replenished the ammo, so i don't see a problem

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (85Gof)

205 "Hey if you haven't closed RAZOR, don't do so yet," Strzok texted at 2:14 p.m. on January 4, 2017.

Note the date...

Two days later Obama was had the big meeting to tell everyone to do it "by the book".

Posted by: golfman at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (hOMhY)

206 make

rubble

bounce...
Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 02:54 PM (2VADA)

Rods from God

Posted by: Fox2! at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (jbFVL)

207 ssbn: >>That was probably John Brennan..... Peter Strokes was some sort of "liaison" from the FBI to the CIA, even earned some kind of faggy CIA pin or something.....
Jackstraw>>Brennan set up what he called, without irony apparently, a Fusion group that included people from the FBI and CIA and perhaps others. Strzok was in that group.

For sure Brennan was a key mid-level exec "coordinating" the ops.
But there were multiple puppetmasters. Jarrett also has, as I recall Iranian ties as does Abedin.

Somewhere in there Soros is involved too. The cabal had the money men, those to whom dirty work was assigned (Strzok, Page, Priestap, Brennan, Clapper, various other FBI overpaid SES villains, various CHS, S Rice, Nuland, old Clinton operatives like Shearer), and then the puppet media megaphones (too numerous to mention).

But at the center is a Machiavellian spider--Obama not smart enough to design it and lacks the work ethic to keep it going.

Posted by: groovygirl at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (ybC9u)

208 157 I suspect that this goes WELL beyond on the FBI.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:02 PM (ZkXld)
+++++++++
At *very* least FBI and CIA. Probably NSA, too. Who knows how far it goes.

This is why I don't think there will ever be anything approaching justice. Corruption itself has become the system. If they attempt to root out the corruption, the entire edifice will come down - and they won't bring the edifice down. Not even the hypothetical "good guys" will do that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:04 PM (hYcqw)

----

It includes parts of the US State Department, DIA (including a Colonel James Baker), and probably some foreign members of the Five Eyes Intelligence Agencies. Remember the important foreigners Carter Page and George Popadopolous were introduced to in 2016?

Posted by: rd at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (+0uDE)

209 $174,000? Yeah. I could.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (EUWQM)

Maybe you enjoy living out of the backseat of your car, but most people would rather not.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (mrrpT)

210
Hahahaha, yes, it was a great tv show.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (78llE)

211 Thank God for the 'ettes to point out what filthy slutty cum dumpsters members of their sex can be unlike the cartoonish image we clueless dorks have.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 03:04 PM (y7DUB)
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You're welcome. I just had a hunch that the fine gentlemen here at the HQ, wearing monocles and ascots while sipping their afternoon tea and perusing their dogearred volumes of poetry, would never have encountered such a woman as you so ably described.

Posted by: PennaLady at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (8HBLI)

212 Could you live on a congressman's salary?
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My butler's shoe-shine boy couldn't live on that.

Posted by: Mr. Doo-Doo at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (sWM8x)

213 Coyote ugly? That's what I said first time I fucked a coyote.

Posted by: Joe Sundown at April 30, 2020 03:12 PM (Eicbe)

214 NONE of these trials should have been held in the DC Virginia Maryland area. Just as OJ should NEVER have been tried in downtown LA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:12 PM (85Gof)

215
Go the other way. They're all corrupt and on the take. Fine. That corruption and graft needs to be contained to reasonable levels.

------

The corruption goes away when the influence and power and king making ability goes away.

The rich and powerful wont throw cash on Senator Eighty-fourIQ from Bumfuckville, Illinois if the good Senator doesnt have the power to do them favors.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:12 PM (nw6Hr)

216 All I can see is his smirking face. That fucking punchable smirking face sitting before congress telling everyone in America he thinks he's above the law.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:12 PM (G4GU9)

217 Comey, brennan, strozk, page e.t al. have been remarkably silent these past few weeks, I wonder why?

Could it have been their lawyers telling them to shut up?

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (JUOKG)

218 He's coyote ugly.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (ptqGC)

Hey...

Posted by: Wiley Coyote at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (ZOvGr)

219 How can you attract the type of person you would want in the job if they can't pay the bills?

Congressmen and Senators have a mid-level manager pay and the responsibility to raise and spend trillions. It just doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (mrrpT)

NH pays $100 a year (plus free tolls on state highways.)

The theory is that a legislator job is part time, people shouldn't be in it for the money, and they want people to have jobs in the communities they represent and not become full time "politicians" as a career.

Seems to work out alright. Attracts a lot of retired people and small business owners.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (ZkXld)

220 How can you attract the type of person you would want in the job if they can't pay the bills?

Congressmen and Senators have a mid-level manager pay and the responsibility to raise and spend trillions. It just doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM (mrrpT)
+++++++++++++
They make a damn sight more than "mid-level" management or technical careers in most parts of this country. And I would *much* rather give them housing in Washington. The usual gripe is "I can't afford to maintain two residences with one of them in high-cost Washington." Fair enough. Build them a nice dormitory, give them a reasonable executive salary (they get an executive salary now) and a decent expense account to get home to their constituents (which they already have).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (hYcqw)

221 90 >>Susan Rice sat in that January, 2017 meeting with Barry. In the final hours before President Trump took the oath of office, the White House Counsel's office ordered her to write a memo reporting that Barry expected his henchpeople to restrict Trump's access to certain intelligence activity, "by the book".

Joe Biden was in that meeting.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 02:53 PM (ZLI7S)

*****

Wow. Now that *would* implicate Biden in the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy.

Maybe not legally...but yeah, it ties him to it. Or is *a* tie to it.

Posted by: El Jefe at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (Ae67h)

222 $174,000? Yeah. I could.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (EUWQM)

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Damn.... I live comfortably on much less now.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (nw6Hr)

223 $174,000? Yeah. I could.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (EUWQM)

Maybe you enjoy living out of the backseat of your car, but most people would rather not.
Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (mrrpT)

jwest, I am sure you are pretty wealthy, which is great, but most people can live just fine on $174,000. They might not live in Beverly Hills, but they live the life of riley compared to most of the world

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (85Gof)

224 Oh boy! I think a flaming skull is in our future.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 30, 2020 03:14 PM (+0AKE)

225
Meanwhile, on Twitter:

Lisa Page @NatSecLisa - 17 h

I've been busy sending text messages.

https://tinyurl.com/y8s2rhug
Posted by: Jane D'oh

=========

What does the bitch mean by that? Obviously something sly and superior, but I admit I'm too mucked down here in the Constitution and justice and sticky mucky things like that to get it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 03:14 PM (G51Gf)

226 @193
True, but you don't commit "conspiracy to commit treason" by yourself. They're holding back what they know, plenty of time for further indictments.
Again, would love to be a fly on the wall

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:14 PM (AwPyG)

227 Zactly.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 30, 2020 03:14 PM (goAgZ)

228 Strozk: Is there a door that doesn't end up in prisonBarr: Someone has to got to prison, Peter

Posted by: Agent Sadusky at April 30, 2020 03:14 PM (iEJaV)

229 Anybody else getting the vibe that these vaunted FBI Grand Juries are nothing more than a Soviet-style show trial ?

Posted by: Socks All Damn Day at April 30, 2020 03:14 PM (C7UJR)

230 185
Could you live on a congressman's salary?
--------------------------

Is that Sarah McLachlan playing in the background?

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 03:14 PM (ibRk/)

231 I could easily afford a brand new Ferrari. I'd just have to live in it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (+0AKE)

232 I find that hard to believe because, Look At Him.

Still, I have pretty decent sourcing for that.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (PbpT7)

Two words Ace: Ron Jeremy

Posted by: Steve in SoCal at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (Ozpxd)

233 You know who's really, truly rich? Those who can live well and happily on little. Not everyone can do it, of course. Thus ends the sermon.

Posted by: lizabth at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (L3Rsz)

234 $174,000? Yeah. I could.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (EUWQM)

---

Damn.... I live comfortably on much less now.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (nw6Hr)
========

Exactly.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (vg8iE)

235 Wow. Now that *would* implicate Biden in the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy.

Maybe not legally...but yeah, it ties him to it. Or is *a* tie to it.
Posted by: El Jefe at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (Ae67h)

Both biden and Fredo were up to this treason up to their necks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (85Gof)

236 Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (mrrpT)

A little unseemly. This is how memes around here are born.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (ibRk/)

237 I could probably be persuaded to give Strzok a deal if it meant Cankles would go to the big house.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (sGotD)

A sentence that gives him a 5 to 10% chance of walking out of jail alive? ( not counting attempts at Arkencide)

Posted by: Fox2! at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (jbFVL)

238
OT, but a little church in Lena IL has just brought a federal lawsuit against Governor JB Pritzker for denying them their constitutional rights.
https://tinyurl.com/ybz4rsw8
Posted by: lizabth

Pelosi Blames Illinois Problems On 'Republican Governor'

www.weaselzippers.us/?p=448021

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (aKsyK)

239 209 $174,000? Yeah. I could.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (EUWQM)

Maybe you enjoy living out of the backseat of your car, but most people would rather not.
Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (mrrpT)

I mean, you are kidding, right?

I make less than that* and live quite comfortably* in NYC.

*during non-cov-19 times. Right now I make nothing and live quite uncomfortably as a couch surfer.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (ZkXld)

240 I can state unequivocally that Peter Strzok is not a homo. Or maybe he just wasn't into me.

Posted by: John Brennan at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (sWM8x)

241 @227
The framers intended ordinary people to spend the two years--farmers, merchants--and support themselves as they always did

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (AwPyG)

242 220 How can you attract the type of person you would want in the job if they can't pay the bills?
Congressmen and Senators have a mid-level manager pay and the responsibility to raise and spend trillions. It just doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:10 PM

Regardless of what you pay them the left's oligarchs will pay more to control them.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (l6b3d)

243 jwest, I am sure you are pretty wealthy, which is great, but most people can live just fine on $174,000. They might not live in Beverly Hills, but they live the life of riley compared to most of the world
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Especially when they get expense accounts for setting up offices. Oh, and insider trading laws don't apply to them.

If they spend a dime out of pocket, it's because they want to.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (2VADA)

244 209 $174,000? Yeah. I could.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (EUWQM)

Maybe you enjoy living out of the backseat of your car, but most people would rather not.
Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (mrrpT)

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You really are a snob, bless your heart.

Posted by: SMH - Seriously? at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (RU4sa)

245 I see jwest is a diciple of moo moo

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (/6GbT)

246 And Lisa's mom is Iranian..interesting connection

Posted by: CN at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (ONvIw)

247 How many 'ettes believe Strzok is hot?

https://tinyurl.com/yb4vr75b

He's coyote ugly.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (ptqGC)

'Ettes have standards but they're acquainted with prog hosebags.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (y7DUB)

248 $174,000? Yeah. I could.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (EUWQM)

Maybe you enjoy living out of the backseat of your car, but most people would rather not.
Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:11 PM (mrrpT)

Considering that that's 3 times what my wife and I make a year, hell fucking yes I could.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Working on his manifesto at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (x8Wzq)

249 I learned in civics that congress and the presidency were not jobs you took for pay, but because you wanted to serve the country.

Naive, we were. Nobody mentioned the insider trading, paid speeches and ghost written books.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (G4GU9)

250 217
Comey, brennan, strozk, page e.t al. have been remarkably silent these past few weeks, I wonder why?

Could it have been their lawyers telling them to shut up?

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (JUOKG)

But Page is texting..... who is she poking in the ribs, I wonder?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (iEJaV)

251 233 You know who's really, truly rich? Those who can live well and happily on little. Not everyone can do it, of course. Thus ends the sermon.
Posted by: lizabth at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (L3Rsz)

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Amen.

Posted by: SMH - Seriously? at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (RU4sa)

252 Indictments, please. Thank you.
Drinks at 6 on the deck.

Posted by: iandeal at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (vgGyZ)

253 You want to pay bureaucrats more? Really simple. Move all the government agencies out of places with high housing costs. There is no reason for them to be in DC or San Francisco. They all get extra pay for housing costs. Restrict that to only bureaus that need to be in DC.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (JKNZq)

254 All I can see is his smirking face. That fucking punchable smirking face sitting before congress telling everyone in America he thinks he's above the law.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:12 PM (G4GU9)

Sometimes I see Evil. Yeah, with a capital letter. Like, an actual entity exposed for just a sliver of a moment, in a microexpression.
I saw it in him during that testimony.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (z79tQ)

255 $174K is plenty to live on unless you have a lot of debt.

Posted by: x at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (nFwvY)

256
I see jwest is a diciple of moo moo
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (/6GbT)

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I first read that as "dicksickle"...

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (nw6Hr)

257
Brennan doesn't have a neck. How do you hang him?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (Uu+Jp)

Just push him over.

Posted by: Easter Island Mori at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (PtOP4)

258 jwest, I am sure you are pretty wealthy, which is great, but most people can live just fine on $174,000. They might not live in Beverly Hills, but they live the life of riley compared to most of the world
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (85Gof)

Yeah, I mean that's not "I'm going to get rich" money (especially in a major city like DC) but that's definitely "I can pay my bills, including the mortgage on my house and also rent an apartment in DC area" money.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (ZkXld)

259 jwest is not a troll.

But his dumbness exceeds time and space, making intergalactic keggers a waste of time.

Aliens line up to lick his taint sweat, as a known source of aphrodisiacs.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (Z4rgH)

260 But Page is texting..... who is she poking in the ribs, I wonder?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (iEJaV)

She's getting poked back...bigly. Being called a whore, etc.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (ptqGC)

261 248. 174k isn't living in your car.

Posted by: CN at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (ONvIw)

262 I have heard through Informed Sources that Mrs. Strzok discovered that ANOTHER woman, this one a reporter at CNN, had left a tablet or computer in Strzok's bedroom or some other hard-to-explain place.

Like the back of a Volkswagen?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (2lndx)

263 Brennan doesn't have a neck. How do you hang him?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (Uu+Jp)

Bury him up to his neck like they did on Easter Island.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (+0AKE)

264 Pelosi Blames Illinois Problems On 'Republican Governor'

That's hilarious!! I wonder if it made Pritz cry? LOL!

Posted by: lizabth at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (L3Rsz)

265 Today is stupid on many levels for me, for reasons which I cannot go into, but I am glad because it is keeping me from focusing on this because if I did I think my brain would explode from rage.

ALSO FUCK YOU DAVID FRENCH.

FUCK YOU NATIONAL REVIEW.

AND, YES, FUCK YOU IN PARTICULAR ANDREW MCCARTHY BECAUSE YOUR OH SEE THIS IS SHOCKING AND I AM SHOCKED AND COMEY AND MUELLER ARE TOTES THE MOST HONORABLE OMG THIS IS TERRIBLE IS WORSE THAN FRENCH.

Okay. Done for the moment.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (mf5HN)

266 @254
Totally agree. Something ain't right

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (AwPyG)

267 186 I don't want to see Comey and friends in orange jumpsuits. I want see them in coffins.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade a fucking ray of sunshine at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (bML9A)

I want to see them hanged in theit HQ Building.

Hang them in the first elevator shaft, with the bodies visible through the open doors of the shaft.

Make everyone walk past them on the way to work for months. Make everyone report the the HQ for a days training, including a tour of the elevator shaft.

Finally give everyone an 11x17" full color photo of the corpses for their cubicle or office, and a directive to keep it hanging until they retire.

Posted by: rd at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (+0uDE)

268 246
And Lisa's mom is Iranian..interesting connection

Posted by: CN at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (ONvIw)
I once read that Barky's Grammie and Grampie were US IC talent stationed in Iran long ago. Wish I saved the article. It was fairly thorough review of his Mom and Grands.... not covered in glory.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (iEJaV)

269 jwest, I am sure you are pretty wealthy, which is great, but most people can live just fine on $174,000. They might not live in Beverly Hills, but they live the life of riley compared to most of the world
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (85Gof)

You get what you pay for in this life.

As I mentioned, these are the people who we hire to raise and spend TRILLIONS of dollars each year. In private industry, people with that type of responsibility make millions each year.

Maybe Vermont can be run by a few people sitting around a cracker barrel a few weeks a year, but the largest economy in the world is more of a full time job.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (mrrpT)

270 All this will go away very soon and we'll be back on Defense as the House Democrats and Deep state begin their next fake investigation into the president while Barr twiddles his fat thumbs.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 02:57 PM (78llE)

Do you really think that this country is in the mood for hearings concerning Covid19 and Trump's response to it when he's been out there every day keeping people informed and facing the fire from the media?
And do you think that having goofy-looking Schiff again being the head of this is going to get traction?

I agree with the poster above who suggested that slow-rolling the Deep State Coup Attempt so that it slowly sinks in to more people is better than dropping everything at once.....

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (CqE5x)

271
Point of order, if I may.

Intergalactic keggers are NEVER a waste of time.

That is all.

Carry on.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (nw6Hr)

272 254 All I can see is his smirking face. That fucking punchable smirking face sitting before congress telling everyone in America he thinks he's above the law.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:12 PM (G4GU9)

Sometimes I see Evil. Yeah, with a capital letter. Like, an actual entity exposed for just a sliver of a moment, in a microexpression.
I saw it in him during that testimony.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (z79tQ

Wholeheartedly agree. It was demonic.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (G4GU9)

273 252 Indictments, please. Thank you.
Drinks at 6 on the deck.
Posted by: iandeal at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (vgGyZ)

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Yes. I like this.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (jUVms)

274
Brennan doesn't have a neck. How do you hang him?

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 30, 2020 03:09 PM (Uu+Jp)

Bury him up to his neck like they did on Easter Island.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (+0AKE)

Do like the peaceful Native Americans did. Bury him up to his neck next to an anthill and douse him with honey.

Old ways are the best.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:20 PM (ptqGC)

275 And now for messages to the imprisoned in America:

"Karen is a petulant busybody."

Repeat:

"Karen is a petulant busybody."

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 30, 2020 03:20 PM (e1mEI)

276 And Lisa's mom is Iranian..interesting connection

Posted by: CN at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (ONvIw)
I once read that Barky's Grammie and Grampie were US IC talent stationed in Iran long ago. Wish I saved the article. It was fairly thorough review of his Mom and Grands.... not covered in glory.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (iEJaV)

Too many Iranian connections with Obama to be a coincidence.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:20 PM (CqE5x)

277 Intergalactic keggers are NEVER a waste of time.

That is all.

Carry on.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (nw6Hr)
++++++++++++
Perhaps not, but they are *not* what we're running here!

Posted by: Rip Torn at April 30, 2020 03:20 PM (hYcqw)

278 jwest, for some people it doesn't matter what you pay them they will want more, and for others its not the paycheck its all about killing their country and acting like fascists.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:20 PM (r+sAi)

279 I for one can believe that Barack Incompetence actually meant "by the book".

I think Incompetence was out of his depth most of the time he sat in the chair. I basically believe that he bought the whole "Trump is a Russian agent" and panicked after the election that "Cut it out" hadn't worked magic.

He wouldn't have ordered the strike on Bin Laden had Jarrett been in town the weekend, at that's why his military leaders chose that weekend, because Jarrett had vetoed it on previous occasions.

So, I believe the account that Barack told the IC to go hard on this and wrap it up by January (as it is recorded he said) and that in January he told people to do it "by the book", because he was ceding his office to Trump.

This is the same President that asked his handlers "Where are all the shovel-ready jobs?"

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:20 PM (Eicbe)

280
That was the entire point of the "small group".
They knew what they were doing was highly illegal and they wanted to
keep the number of people involved to a minimum.

That's why it is the same group of people involved in all these
investigations run out of HQ rather than from various field offices.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 03:05 PM (ZLI7S)

And it seems that most of those people have been pushed out of the FBI and DOJ. Which means that nothing has been happening or will ever happen (sarc last sentence).

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Go Nuts with Hermit's Harangues from the Outrage Outlet! at April 30, 2020 03:20 PM (sGfPf)

281 Yeah, I mean that's not "I'm going to get rich" money (especially in a major city like DC) but that's definitely "I can pay my bills, including the mortgage on my house and also rent an apartment in DC area" money.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM (ZkXld)

And then take into account the hours that they actually work during a week.

And that they basically take all of August off. Weeks long Vacation over Christmas. Probably other long vacation times as well.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:20 PM (WqCOQ)

282 Military helo around Ft Bragg yesterday.

F-16 overhead out of Shaw today.

Things are getting back to normal.

#America

Posted by: golfman at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (hOMhY)

283
"Razor still open," Strzok immediately texted to Lisa Page ...

__________

Too bad the National Razor isn't still open ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (2aYYl)

284 She's getting poked back...bigly. Being called a whore, etc.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (ptqGC)

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She got absolutely lit up.

It was like Ace moved the blog to Twitter and sic'd the horde on her.

Epic.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (nw6Hr)

285 Maybe Vermont can be run by a few people sitting around a cracker barrel a few weeks a year, but the largest economy in the world

is more of a full time job.

Posted by: jwest

Considering the total amount of time they are in session? No it's not. It's more like a part time job.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (2VADA)

286 You get what you pay for in this life.

As I mentioned, these are the people who we hire to raise and spend TRILLIONS of dollars each year. In private industry, people with that type of responsibility make millions each year.

Maybe Vermont can be run by a few people sitting around a cracker barrel a few weeks a year, but the largest economy in the world is more of a full time job.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (mrrpT)

Is it a full time job?

Because Congress is definitely not in session every working day of the year.

But fine, what do you think they should get paid to discourage them from becoming corrupt? What's that number? $1 million a year? $10 million? $100 million?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (ZkXld)

287 I agree with the poster above who suggested that slow-rolling the Deep State Coup Attempt so that it slowly sinks in to more people is better than dropping everything at once.....
Posted by: JoeF.

Need to take down Sen Warner - problem is the VA GOP is too useless to even have an alternative with a pulse.

Posted by: Jean at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (B7KlG)

288 84 The MSM will bury the story, just like they're burying Joe the Finger Raper.

...
Posted by: shibumi says CV19

I hope Joe at least used a finger cot.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1997 at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (kfcYC)

289 You get what you pay for in this life.

As I mentioned, these are the people who we hire to raise and spend TRILLIONS of dollars each year. In private industry, people with that type of responsibility make millions each year.

Maybe Vermont can be run by a few people sitting around a cracker barrel a few weeks a year, but the largest economy in the world is more of a full time job.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (mrrpT)

yeah I get that, but the fact that real competent managers of America should make more than $174,000 is different from the fact most people can live fine on $174,000. 2 different arguments

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (85Gof)

290 $174k?
holy shit, I would LOVE to make that.

I could actually own a little cabin out in the woods and get the fuck out of dodge a few times a year.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (d7Ww2)

291 This isnt America, this isnt even Mexico.

Posted by: Regular joe at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (6/uwW)

292 Maybe Vermont can be run by a few people sitting around a cracker barrel a few weeks a year, but the largest economy in the world is more of a full time job.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (mrrpT)

Vermont was run a whole lot better when we had a few people sitting around the cracker barrel a few weeks a year. The downhill slide coincided with the advent of a full time legislature.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (c5F2u)

293 279
I for one can believe that Barack Incompetence actually meant "by the book".
----------------------------
Yeah. If the book was Das Kapital.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (ibRk/)

294 102 Hanging probably won't get the point across how much trying to depose a king is a blood game.

Guillotine.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2020 02:55 PM (84uGZ)

Still way too quick and clean. Among the many ways the ancient Romans executed people was a favorite: chain the miscreant up to a team of horses and dragged through the streets of Rome up to a high cliff and then thrown off. They usually didn't survive the trip to the cliff.

Posted by: I Have Questions at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (+v+zN)

295 but the largest economy in the world is more of a full time job.<<<<<
That's why we are sitting on our fat asses at home.

Posted by: Congress at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (r+sAi)

296
174k isn't living in your car.
Posted by: CN

You may have to live in your car but you will have Grey Poupon on your sammich.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (aKsyK)

297 265 Today is stupid on many levels for me, for reasons which I cannot go into, but I am glad because it is keeping me from focusing on this because if I did I think my brain would explode from rage.

Posted by: alexthechick - Rage

You read the Last of Us 2 spoilers?

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (WqCOQ)

298 Intergalactic keggers are NEVER a waste of time.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (nw6Hr)
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*burp* totally!

Posted by: Rick Sanchez at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (Eicbe)

299 174k isn't living in your car.Posted by: CN at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (ONvIw)^^^Man, I'd be embarrassed to disclose how far away I am from that amount of money. Oddly enough, I do not feel deprived of anything.

Posted by: Old Dude at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (LGXGf)

300 I think it's the headquarters for the Forest Service that is in San Francisco. Trump tried to move it, but that made Pelosi unhappy. And they all get paid a housing allowance because they live in an area with the highest housing in the country.

Maybe they should be relocated to someplace with trees, like Northern California.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (JKNZq)

301 Still way too quick and clean. Among the many ways the ancient Romans executed people was a favorite: chain the miscreant up to a team of horses and dragged through the streets of Rome up to a high cliff and then thrown off. They usually didn't survive the trip to the cliff.
Posted by: I Have Questions at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (+v+zN)
++++++++++++
Time to think about me again?

Posted by: Catherine Wheel at April 30, 2020 03:23 PM (hYcqw)

302 yeah I get that, but the fact that real competent managers of America should make more than $174,000 is different from the fact most people can live fine on $174,000. 2 different arguments
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (85Gof)

I agree. 99% of the world could live just fine on that.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:23 PM (CqE5x)

303 If nothing else, I hope the seriousness of this will curb that idiot Comey's penchant for embarrassing selfies and pictures with stupid captions.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 30, 2020 03:23 PM (jUVms)

304 Maybe Vermont can be run by a few people sitting around a cracker barrel a few weeks a year, but the largest economy in the world is more of a full time job.

What the fuck are 536 people doing running the largest economy in the world? I don't care if they were all Stephen Hawkings or Henry Fords. They can never run an economy.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:23 PM (EUWQM)

305 268 246
And Lisa's mom is Iranian..interesting connection

Posted by: CN at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (ONvIw)
I once read that Barky's Grammie and Grampie were US IC talent stationed in Iran long ago. Wish I saved the article. It was fairly thorough review of his Mom and Grands.... not covered in glory.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 30, 2020 03:19 PM (iEJaV)

Grams was a through put for state while she was a loan officer? at the bank in Hawaii.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 03:23 PM (ZOvGr)

306 282
Military helo around Ft Bragg yesterday.

F-16 overhead out of Shaw today.

Things are getting back to normal.

#America

Posted by: golfman at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (hOMhY)

____________

"Why do you conservatives care more about planes and money than lives!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 30, 2020 03:23 PM (2aYYl)

307 Lol, nobody who enters this twisted monstrosity of a government views the money as anything other than icing on the cake of power. Money is not the motivation. Rich, poor, in between, it doesn't matter... they get into the game for far darker reasons. The paycheck doesn't much matter.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 30, 2020 03:23 PM (lJuMe)

308 Not shade Gade, he's a great guy. But, no one knows his name.

Posted by: Jean at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (B7KlG)

309 The largest economy in the world should not be run out of the cesspool that is DC. They should be butting the fuck out of letting the largest economy in the world run.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (WqCOQ)

310 This has nothing to do with Iran...i wish people would stop pushing that shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (85Gof)

311
174k isn't living in your car.
Posted by: CN at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (ONvIw)

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No. But I bet its ashtray money in jwests Bentley.....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (nw6Hr)

312 Heard it on Fox last night, Hannity? maybe?

That when Obama had the meeting with Trump about Presidentin, he warned Trump about two people.

Kim Jon Un, and Michael Flynn.

There was some hate there for some reason.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (NgKpN)

313 174k isn't living in your car.
Posted by: CN

You may have to live in your car but you will have Grey Poupon on your sammich.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (aKsyK)

And your car will be huge and luxurious. And powerful.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (CqE5x)

314 If nothing else, I hope the seriousness of this will curb that idiot Comey's penchant for embarrassing selfies and pictures with stupid captions.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 30, 2020 03:23 PM (jUVms)
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You forget the massive screen that the anti-Trump media provides.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (Eicbe)

315 Vermont was run a whole lot better when we had a few people sitting around the cracker barrel a few weeks a year. The downhill slide coincided with the advent of a full time legislature.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (c5F2u)

yeah, I think he was making a comment about me saying that NH runs fine with a very part time legislature which is basically unpaid ($100 a year plus free tolls on state highways).

I mean, let's be real -- the legislative branch is not overly involved in the day to day operations of government anywhere in the US. They just vote for a budget, pass some busy body laws, and hold hearings about nothing.

It really doesn't need to be / shouldn't be a full time job.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:25 PM (ZkXld)

316 Wanna watch me jerk off on the curtains?

www.pencildikjerkoffs.com

Posted by: Big Jim Comey at April 30, 2020 03:25 PM (CLteG)

317 Doesn't matter how much you make. You tend to spend what you make.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:25 PM (G4GU9)

318 Harry Parastetes>>How though?

As we can see, they have the real power in this country. And they certainly aren't going to volunteer to turn that over.

And even if we could force them to, who would they turn it over to?

Move the bureaucracy out of Washington. Disperse it to multiple locations. The logic for being close physically is moot in an internet WFH world.

Heck, they could take lessons from the Ohrs on using ham radios to communicate (sarc.)

Posted by: groovygirl at April 30, 2020 03:25 PM (ybC9u)

319 I used to drive so much, there were times I thought I was living out of my car

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:25 PM (85Gof)

320 Hey I thought I just saw a head roll by!

Posted by: freaked, hoping for the best, expecting the wurst at April 30, 2020 03:25 PM (Tnijr)

321 That when Obama had the meeting with Trump about Presidentin, he warned Trump about two people.

Kim Jon Un, and Michael Flynn.

There was some hate there for some reason.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (NgKpN)

Yeah, if it wasn't for Obama's guidance, I'm sure Trump would take Kim lightly....

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:25 PM (CqE5x)

322 I agree. 99% of the world could live just fine on that.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:23 PM (CqE5x)
+++++++++++++
Forget the world. About 85%-90% of *Americans* live on less than that. 90th percentile income is about $184k.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (hYcqw)

323 Nope, just a squirrel.

Posted by: freaked, hoping for the best, expecting the wurst at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (Tnijr)

324 That when Obama had the meeting with Trump about Presidentin, he warned Trump about two people.

Kim Jon Un, and Michael Flynn.

There was some hate there for some reason.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (NgKpN)
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Until I heard about Flynn's proposal to audit the IC, I had bought the story that it was about the timidity of hiring somebody Obama (PBUH) fired.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (Eicbe)

325 248. 174k isn't living in your car.
Posted by: CN at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (ONvIw)
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Maybe jwest lives in Zimbabwe and is calculating in Z$?

Posted by: PennaLady at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (8HBLI)

326 Senate will hold confirmation hearing for John Ratcliffe for DNI on 5/5/20.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (sGotD)

327 Texas seems to do just fine on $14,400 every two years.

Yes. I'm kind of happy this latest excuse for bad laws happened on the off year.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (2lndx)

328 Benjamin Wittes needs a bullet between his fellow traveler pig eyes, too.

By the way: did Chief Justice Roberts do anything about the dirty garbage FISA court judges he supervises? Of course not. There obviously is a FBI file on Roberts that details a rich history of child molestation.

Burn. It. Down.

We are past so-called "justice" which isn't happening, anyhow.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (puu6v)

329 Nope, just a squirrel.

Posted by: freaked, hoping for the best, expecting the wurst at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (Tnijr)
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Pixy really needs all she has!

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (Eicbe)

330 141 The FBI needs to be humiliated and emasculated.

Replace them with a brand new organization, that is not allowed to hire or contract with anyone that was a member of or contractor to the FBI, or spouse, sibling, parent or child, or niece or nephew of anyone in the FBI.

Assign the FBI to some limited, but neglected Federal Law Enforcement tasks. My suggestion is finding missing Native American women and children. A noble, neglected task, and 5,000 victims every year.

Posted by: rd

I wouldn't be surprised if Strzok has them all in his crawlspace.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1997 at April 30, 2020 03:27 PM (kfcYC)

331 I can see no one thinks there will be any significant indictments of the coup plotters.

I agree.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:27 PM (r+sAi)

332 $174K is plenty to live on unless you have a lot of debt.

Posted by: x at April 30, 2020 03:17 PM

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Not in DC. If you have to have housing there you are going to be spending a huge amount of that just to live there.

It's right behind Hawaii in cost to rent or own.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 03:27 PM (JUOKG)

333 That when Obama had the meeting with Trump about Presidentin, he warned Trump about two people.

Kim Jon Un, and Michael Flynn.

--------

Obama said that because Flynn had already openly declared he was going to clean up the IC arena.

Obama was hoping naive Trump would take that advice.

Eff Obama that POS.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 30, 2020 03:27 PM (jUVms)

334 331 I can see no one thinks there will be any significant indictments of the coup plotters.

I agree.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:27 PM (r+sAi

Strongly worded letters all around.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:27 PM (G4GU9)

335 Oh, Yeah,
#twoweeks

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 03:28 PM (1g7ch)

336 Considering the total amount of time they are in session? No it's not. It's more like a part time job.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (2VADA)

If you will remember, I advocated that half their compensation would be in salary, the other half in a bonus that would be tied to passing individual budgets (not one fucked up omnibus) on time and within the budgetary limits of what was collected in the previous year in taxes.

The country would be infinitely better off and the congress and senate would have to work full time to pull that off.

All for an amount that, if taken in perspective, is piss change.

Or, we could follow the plan we have for the last 70 years and get the clown show of a congress we have now. Yeah, that's the ticket... Let's keep doing the exact same thing we have been and expect a better result.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:28 PM (mrrpT)

337 I can see no one thinks there will be any significant indictments of the coup plotters.

I agree.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:27 PM (r+sAi)

Unless they can slow-roll this AND Trump loses re-election, I disagree.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:28 PM (CqE5x)

338 "307 Lol, nobody who enters this twisted monstrosity of a government views the money as anything other than icing on the cake of power. Money is not the motivation. Rich, poor, in between, it doesn't matter... they get into the game for far darker reasons. The paycheck doesn't much matter."

Disagree in part. Saw off these diseased pigs' end of the trough during the shut own and they will squeal the loudest.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2020 03:28 PM (puu6v)

339 If this plays out as it should, and Flynn is exonerated, can he sue for recovery of all his lost and spent assets?

Posted by: steve walsh at April 30, 2020 03:28 PM (C60vS)

340
I can see no one thinks there will be any significant indictments of the coup plotters.

I agree.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:27 PM (r+sAi)***
Yeah, and I wonder which DOJ gets to investigate November's massive voter fraud?

Posted by: Old Dude at April 30, 2020 03:28 PM (LGXGf)

341 >>Heard it on Fox last night, Hannity? maybe?

>>That when Obama had the meeting with Trump about Presidentin, he warned Trump about two people.

>>Kim Jon Un, and Michael Flynn.

>>There was some hate there for some reason.

Obama had two big thorns in his side in the intel community, Flynn and Mike Rogers. He fired Flynn and then had him setup. He almost shit canned Rogers, Ash Carter and Clapper recommended he be fired, but Obama let him stay probably reasoning his term was almost over.

Durham has been interviewing Mike Rogers.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (ZLI7S)

342 @ Alabama 216 "All I can see is his smirking face"

Yep me too. If there is any justice the powers that be would go medieval on that punk ass bitch. Not wussy Spanish Inquisition medieval, I'm talking Vlad Tepes (Vlad the Impaler) medieval, stay up at night and get creative with it medieval. Round off the impaling stake so they live for days or weeks, and then hang em up on it. Then have dinner served all around it with those next in line (Brennan, Comey, Nadler, Hillary, all the way up to Obama) as guests so they get a real good look at whats bearing down on their worthless asses.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (cCxiu)

343 Not in DC. If you have to have housing there you are going to be spending a huge amount of that just to live there.

It's right behind Hawaii in cost to rent or own.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 03:27 PM (JUOKG)
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This is a common discussion point. Put up a nice apartment complex - 2,500-3,500 sq. ft units, nice appointments, etc. and make a residence a perk of the job if you're in Congress. Has the added benefit of keeping them where can keep track of them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (hYcqw)

344 I wonder what his attitude is towards the average citizen?

Posted by: rd

You misspelled peasant.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...safety off at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (3ptRC)

345 Unless they can slow-roll this AND Trump loses re-election, I disagree. <<<<<
Ok. So who?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (r+sAi)

346 #TwoWeeks

Indeed.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (jUVms)

347 I live within commuting distance of DC and I can assure you that $174k is plenty of money to live on here, and live on well. The median salary for Arlington VA was $117k in 2017, the median salary for Fairfax County VA is $122k.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (/669Q)

348 $175,000? Sign me up

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (ZCEU2)

349 >>I can see no one thinks there will be any significant indictments of the coup plotters.

I do. But then I have all along.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (ZLI7S)

350 331
I can see no one thinks there will be any significant indictments of the coup plotters.

I agree.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:27 PM (r+sAi

Look them Dems have been top roping PDT for three long years and now they are sitting on his face like King Kong Bundy complete with smelly stained shorts, so call me when the fujitsu kicks in and PDT starts smashing them like a CNN logo.
Until then I patiently wait.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (iEJaV)

351 Move the bureaucracy out of Washington. Disperse it to multiple locations. The logic for being close physically is moot in an internet WFH world.

Heck, they could take lessons from the Ohrs on using ham radios to communicate (sarc.)
Posted by: groovygirl at April 30, 2020 03:25 PM (ybC9u)

Yeah, I don't think it'd change anything. They'd just bring their shitty ways with them wherever they went.

There's too much money and power floating around for things not to get this corrupt.

It's the big problem with republican forms of governments. Eventually everything gets centralized, and the people in charge get rich off of everyone else and the corruption gets out of control.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (ZkXld)

352 @349
Everybody should buy Jack Straw a beer.

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (AwPyG)

353 You read the Last of Us 2 spoilers?
Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (WqCOQ)

Not yet.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (mf5HN)

354 308 Not shade Gade, he's a great guy. But, no one knows his name.
Posted by: Jean at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (B7KlG)
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I got a nice colored flyer from his campaign a few days ago. That's something, I guess.

But I assume if he's a "great guy" the VA GOP won't care to support him.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (M/9m0)

355 Well, really any form of government.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (ZkXld)

356 Sorry, that's median household income, not median salary. Big difference.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (/669Q)

357 Not in DC. If you have to have housing there you are going to be spending a huge amount of that just to live there.

Define huge. Google is leading me to many apartments in the DC suburbs for under $2000 a month.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (EUWQM)

358 Considering the total amount of time they are in session? No it's not. It's more like a part time job.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (2VADA)

And it's not like they're sitting there, writing bills and shit, when they are "at work"... fucking lobbyists do all that.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (jjaLl)

359 Disagree in part. Saw off these diseased pigs' end of the trough during the shut own and they will squeal the loudest.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2020 03:28 PM (puu6v)

But that's my point.

You can't.

They're untouchable. That's their motivation. Raking in graft is just something you do because you can.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (lJuMe)

360 190 Brennan doesn't have a neck. How do you hang him?

Just bury him up to his chin on Easter Island.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (a4EWo)

361
Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (cCxi

Do you have a newsletter?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (G4GU9)

362 353 You read the Last of Us 2 spoilers?
Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (WqCOQ)

Not yet.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (mf5HN)

============

I'm not gonna say it's aliens, but...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 30, 2020 03:31 PM (UWqZJ)

363
I agree. 99% of the world could live just fine on that.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:23 PM (CqE5x)
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Forget the world. About 85%-90% of *Americans* live on less than that. 90th percentile income is about $184k.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (hYcqw)

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Interesting factoid.

The United States ...... sets it POVERTY LEVEL at 94th percentile of incomes world wide.

Yet.... roughly HALF of my fellow citizens think this is a shitty country to live in and want it leveled and rebuilt in another vision.

Fuck. Them.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:31 PM (nw6Hr)

364 Conference call..gotta earn my crappy $140,000 + salary

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:31 PM (85Gof)

365
Ciaramella, the fake whistleblower, still works in the IC, yes?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 03:31 PM (78llE)

366 Sorry, that's median household income, not median salary. Big difference.
Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (/669Q)
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Right, thank you for the correction.

$175k is still in the 85th+ percentile of US households.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:31 PM (hYcqw)

367 This is a common discussion point. Put up a nice
apartment complex - 2,500-3,500 sq. ft units, nice appointments, etc.
and make a residence a perk of the job if you're in Congress. Has the
added benefit of keeping them where can keep track of them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM

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You gonna level some National Monuments or take over some parks in DC and the surrounding area?

Because unless you do that, there ain't anything left buildable in a 50 mile radius of DC.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (JUOKG)

368 I'll buy Jack three cases of beer if Comey does time.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (G4GU9)

369 Everybody should buy Jack Straw a beer.
Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (AwPyG)

Why? So he can be drunk and stoned?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (z79tQ)

370 Conference call..gotta earn my crappy $140,000 + salary
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:31 PM (85Gof)
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You gonna take that call in your car, I mean, your home?

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (/669Q)

371 I do. But then I have all along. <<<<<<
Who will face indictments?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (r+sAi)

372 363 Interesting factoid.

The United States ...... sets it POVERTY LEVEL at 94th percentile of incomes world wide.

Yet.... roughly HALF of my fellow citizens think this is a shitty country to live in and want it leveled and rebuilt in another vision.

Fuck. Them.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:31 PM (nw6Hr)

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Capitalism kills poor people which is why we don't have any.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (UWqZJ)

373 352
@349
Everybody should buy Jack Straw a beer.

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (AwPyG)

One for every conviction!

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (iEJaV)

374 You gonna level some National Monuments or take over some parks in DC and the surrounding area?

Because unless you do that, there ain't anything left buildable in a 50 mile radius of DC.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (JUOKG)
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They can build it on the grounds of the former Hoover building.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (hYcqw)

375 Or, we could follow the plan we have for the last 70 years and get the clown show of a congress we have now. Yeah, that's the ticket... Let's keep doing the exact same thing we have been and expect a better result.
Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:28 PM (mrrpT)

I'm not even against paying congress more money, or tying their compensation to concrete results.

I'm more scoffing at the idea that it's impossible to live off of $174,000, or that paying them more would somehow make them less likely to be corrupt.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (ZkXld)

376 Why does it say in the letter "under the direction of Attorney General William P. Barr, United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Missouri"?

Posted by: redridinghood at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (wiXsO)

377 I see jwest is a diciple of moo moo
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (/6GbT)

Probably IS Moo Moo.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (bW1Yb)

378 I live within commuting distance of DC and I can assure you that $174k is plenty of money to live on here, and live on well. The median salary for Arlington VA was $117k in 2017, the median salary for Fairfax County VA is $122k.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM (/669Q)

This makes sense, but I guess the caveat is that if you want to be a BIG SHOT and entertain wealthy and influential government, media and university big shots with lavish parties, send your spawn to ultra-elite schools where they can begin their own networking, join country clubs and all the rest, then yeah $175,000 ain't gonna do it.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (CqE5x)

379
Capitalism kills poor people which is why we don't have any.
This is Titania McGrath worthy.

Posted by: lizabth at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (L3Rsz)

380 Because unless you do that, there ain't anything left buildable in a 50 mile radius of DC.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (JUOKG)
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They are gentrifying SE DC at a dizzying pace. Building lots of high-rent highrises. I wouldn't live there if you paid me.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (/669Q)

381 Everybody should buy Jack Straw a beer.
Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (AwPyG)

Wait, I may have misunderstood.

We all buy him A beer. My portion would only come out to less than a penny.
I'm in.

And he won't get drunk enough to harsh his buzz

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (z79tQ)

382 This makes sense, but I guess the caveat is that if you want to be a BIG SHOT and entertain wealthy and influential government, media and university big shots with lavish parties, send your spawn to ultra-elite schools where they can begin their own networking, join country clubs and all the rest, then yeah $175,000 ain't gonna do it.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (CqE5x)
++++++++++++++
If that's your game, $175k won't do it anywhere.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:34 PM (hYcqw)

383 Problems in Plain Sight:

(1) Why did the "7th Floor" at the FBI get **directly** involved in these Trump investigation cases?

(2) Why were the same people at FBI and DOJ, AND the same SOURCES (Halper, Steele, Fusion) involved in all of the Crossfire cases? [I mean, if there WAS a Russian conspiracy, then it would make sense, but now we know that THE FBI (the field agents who, you know, do this professionally) knew, there was none.

(3) Note that newly released Flynn info that matters (field office found no bad info and wanted to close case) was NOT sources or methods. Redacted anyway withheld from Flynn, hidden by Team Mueller (* And not discussed)

(4) Director Wray needs to be fired. Shame on Trump for not doing it a long time ago. If Wray thinks he's protecting the FBI here, he's a fool. The ONLY way to protect the FBI would have been to flush all the info into the sunshine, and get behind aggressive prosecution of all at FBI involved. NOT ONE FBI BAD ACTOR HAS EVEN BEEN INDICTED. When you come in as Top Dog in a troubled institution, the SMART play is to immediately scorch earth and rip the bandaid off, blame your predecessor, and play the reform card.

Wray tried to keep the shell game going instead, protected the bad actors, thwarted accountability at every stage, stalled, etc. A national disgrace. He's the same as Comey in my book.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at April 30, 2020 03:34 PM (DRgs8)

384 This makes sense, but I guess the caveat is that if you want to be a BIG SHOT and entertain wealthy and influential government, media and university big shots with lavish parties, send your spawn to ultra-elite schools where they can begin their own networking, join country clubs and all the rest, then yeah $175,000 ain't gonna do it.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (CqE5x)
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Very true! And I suspect you, like me, think that our Congresscritters should be doing none of the above.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:34 PM (/669Q)

385 379
Capitalism kills poor people which is why we don't have any.
This is Titania McGrath worthy.
Posted by: lizabth at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (L3Rsz)

==========

*bows*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 30, 2020 03:34 PM (UWqZJ)

386 You gonna take that call in your car, I mean, your home?
Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (/669Q)

They granted me permission to telework from my haval here in NJ

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:34 PM (85Gof)

387 352 @349
Everybody should buy Jack Straw a beer.
Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (AwPyG)

Well okay, but it has to be Narragansett.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 30, 2020 03:34 PM (c5F2u)

388 Not in DC. If you have to have housing there you are going to be spending a huge amount of that just to live there.

It's right behind Hawaii in cost to rent or own.

---

Meh, we're probably better off with fewer people living in DC.

Posted by: Methos at April 30, 2020 03:34 PM (kOpft)

389 $174,000/yr. is very good money.

You may not be able to afford a new Lincoln Navigator every year, or fly to the World Series in a private charter, but you can have a nice house, nice car, maybe a cabin somewhere, and take a couple of vacations a year.

And the best part is you don't have to obsess over your incredible wealth.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (sGotD)

390 Piano wire and lamp posts.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (0OmEj)

391 >>Who will face indictments?

Everyone Durham and Co. can build cases against. I completely disagree that Barr is some deep state hump and he's only trying to bury things. There is zero evidence of that and plenty to indicate just the opposite including a grand jury.

Over the last months there have reports that Durham is adding even more people to his team, investigators and lawyers. That doesn't sound like nothing is happening to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (ZLI7S)

392 We are all going to owe JackStraw a case of his favorite rum.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (/669Q)

393
Nobody "runs" the economy.

Think of the economy as a human body. Filled with cells. Each of those does its thing. Lives, reproduces dies. Each cell has a job.

You dont conciously tell your pancreas cells to make insulin. It happens. You dont command that white T-cell to devour that bacteria.

It just happens.

Thinking that you can "run" an advanced economy like the US's is akin to thinking you can command your hair to stop growing.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (nw6Hr)

394 This is a common discussion point. Put up a nice
apartment complex - 2,500-3,500 sq. ft units, nice appointments, etc.
and make a residence a perk of the job if you're in Congress. Has the
added benefit of keeping them where can keep track of them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 03:29 PM

---

You gonna level some National Monuments or take over some parks in DC and the surrounding area?

Because unless you do that, there ain't anything left buildable in a 50 mile radius of DC.
Posted by: Mr. Scott

Once we move the DoE, DoT, DoEnergy and other HQ's out of DC, we'll have room.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (2VADA)

395
377 I see jwest is a diciple of moo moo
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 30, 2020 03:16 PM (/6GbT)

Probably IS Moo Moo.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2020 03:33 PM (bW1Yb)

Nah he predates moo moo.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:36 PM (G2zl5)

396 Why? So he can be drunk and stoned?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (z79tQ)

You say that like it's a bad thing, duuude....

Posted by: Spiccoli at April 30, 2020 03:36 PM (ufFY8)

397 392 We are all going to owe JackStraw a case of his favorite rum.

I certainly hope so!

be extremely happy to pay up

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 03:36 PM (j9HX3)

398 Everyone Durham and Co. can build cases against. <<<<<
And who do you think that will be?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:36 PM (r+sAi)

399 "Why did you fire him?" The profession formerly known as "Journalism" is now asking Trump.

They never stop with the gotchas. Like it's some grave error that when you're informed of criminal wrongdoing by what stands in for law enforcement, at the start of your term, to trust them.

Screw all journalists.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:36 PM (Eicbe)

400 235 Wow. Now that *would* implicate Biden in the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy.

Maybe not legally...but yeah, it ties him to it. Or is *a* tie to it.
Posted by: El Jefe at April 30, 2020 03:13 PM (Ae67h)

Both biden and Fredo were up to this treason up to their necks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:15 PM (85Gof)

*****

Who is Fredo here? Obama?

Posted by: El Jefe at April 30, 2020 03:36 PM (Ae67h)

401 Very true! And I suspect you, like me, think that our Congresscritters should be doing none of the above.
Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:34 PM (/669Q)

Yes.

As for me, $175,000 would go very far as I have no expensive habits except buying books in hardcover and the occasional 6 pack of pricey craft beer.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:36 PM (CqE5x)

402 Because unless you do that, there ain't anything left buildable in a 50 mile radius of DC.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (JUOKG)

A complex made to house all the congressmen and senators would make a pretty easy target too.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (mrrpT)

403 Over the last months there have reports that Durham is adding even more people to his team, investigators and lawyers. That doesn't sound like nothing is happening to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (ZLI7S

Big trough, the US Government.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (G4GU9)

404 We are all going to owe JackStraw a case of his favorite rum.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (/669Q)

Party at my place! No masks required.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (ptqGC)

405 FarkAss,

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (1g7ch)

406 Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:36 PM (G2zl5)
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Dead, but still the AoSHQ historian.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (/669Q)

407 Who is Fredo here? Obama?
Posted by: El Jefe at April 30, 2020 03:36 PM (Ae67h)

Yes the ORIGINAL Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (85Gof)

408 We are all going to owe JackStraw a case of his favorite rum.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (/669Q)

I would chip in for a case of Leinenkugel's but I drank it all watching the game. Oh wait

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (lwiT4)

409 new dump happening right now per Fox.

no clue whats in it yet, but said it's lengthy.

twss...

Posted by: SturmToddler at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (8D42x)

410 Because even DoD staffers were in on the coup too.

FarkAss.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (1g7ch)

411 Piano wire and lamp posts.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (0OmEj)

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Suggestion.

Can we rename lamp posts used for such an activity "D-lamp" posts ???

Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (nw6Hr)

412 @382
I think most people got Wray's number that first hearing, where he squirmed and made faces and said that more training is needed.
Where do they find these people?

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (AwPyG)

413 DC doesn't run a fucking thing.

They just suckle off of those who do.

Hang every single one of them and see what a difference it makes to the overall economy. I think you'll be pleased. They're the definition of useless eaters, and their gluttony is exquisite. Magnificent in its scale.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (lJuMe)

414 Party at my place! No masks required.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (ptqGC)
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I'm in! I'll bring whatever you want plus the umbrellas for the drinks.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (/669Q)

415 Over the last months there have reports that Durham is adding even more people to his team, investigators and lawyers. That doesn't sound like nothing is happening to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (ZLI7S)

Nepotism and make-work jobs for the cronys.
Being the boss has to have some perks.

I jest

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (z79tQ)

416 You read the Last of Us 2 spoilers?

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (WqCOQ)

Not yet.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (mf5HN)

Can you do the rest of us a favor and record yourself while you're reading them?

Posted by: Methos at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (kOpft)

417 She's getting poked back...bigly. Being called a whore, etc.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:18 PM (ptqGC)

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She got absolutely lit up.

It was like Ace moved the blog to Twitter and sic'd the horde on her.

Epic.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 30, 2020 03:21 PM (nw6Hr)
**********
Love the ratio she's getting

Posted by: redridinghood at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (wiXsO)

418 412 @382
I think most people got Wray's number that first hearing, where he squirmed and made faces and said that more training is needed.
Where do they find these people?
Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (AwPyG)

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Yale.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (UWqZJ)

419 This makes sense, but I guess the caveat is that if you want to be a BIG SHOT and entertain wealthy and influential government, media and university big shots with lavish parties, send your spawn to ultra-elite schools where they can begin their own networking, join country clubs and all the rest, then yeah $175,000 ain't gonna do it.
Posted by: JoeF.

That's covered under expense accounts.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (2VADA)

420 Posted by: RichardWindsor at April 30, 2020 03:34 PM (DRgs

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Kudos all the way. 100% right on.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (Eicbe)

421 I have heard through Informed Sources that Mrs. Strzok discovered that ANOTHER woman, this one a reporter at CNN, had left a tablet or computer in Strzok's bedroom or some other hard-to-explain place.

I find that hard to believe because, Look At Him.

Still, I have pretty decent sourcing for that.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (PbpT7)

Hello, Ms. Strzok? This is the Mayflower Hotel. Your husband left his laptop in his room last night. We will be sending it to your home this afternoon.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (e1mEI)

422
How do you explain allowing Coup #2 to occur right under his nose?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (78llE)

423 Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (EUWQM)

Have you looked to see where they are and who your neighbors would be?

I would guess those places are the equivalent of the $300 to $500 market in a lot of other places.

Lots and lots of apprentice thieves and gang bangers as your community. Along with substandard plumbing and maintenance by an absentee landlord.

Posted by: jakee308 at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (OikrH)

424 @TeaBoots

Lansing -Michigan ...Protesters move inside the Statehouse ....Well deserved Governor Whitmer ..
WE THE PEOPLE..Go Michigan!

Video: https://tinyurl.com/yauh2gps

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (cF8AT)

425 367---Because unless you do that, there ain't anything left buildable in a 50 mile radius of DC.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (JUOKG)
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Plenty of room in Rock Creek Park to build living facilities like that. Plenty.
And you'd still have most of the park left over for use by hikers and muggers.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (M/9m0)

426 Love the ratio she's getting

Posted by: redridinghood at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (wiXsO)

I'm in late. Who are we talking about?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (lwiT4)

427 new dump happening right now per Fox.

Ewwwwwww

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (CqE5x)

428 391
>>Who will face indictments?

Everyone Durham and Co. can build cases against. I completely
disagree that Barr is some deep state hump and he's only trying to bury
things. There is zero evidence of that and plenty to indicate just the
opposite including a grand jury.

Over the last months there have reports that Durham is adding even
more people to his team, investigators and lawyers. That doesn't sound
like nothing is happening to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (ZLI7S)

Soon....soon he will have a critical mass of deep state attorneys assembled and then after a two week incubation period they will turn into one giant MechaAttorney and turn on and ravage the deep state goons. (sotto vocce two weeks)

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (iEJaV)

429 https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
4pm EDT (about 20 minutes from now)
PDT Delivers Remarks on Protecting America's Seniors

Posted by: m at April 30, 2020 03:40 PM (MIg60)

430 I've fucking had it. Our Gov in MN just extended to May 18th. I am done with this shit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 30, 2020 03:40 PM (5Zd24)

431 We are all going to owe JackStraw a case of his favorite rum.
Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (/669Q)
~~~~~

I'll buy him a new pair of lederhosen.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 30, 2020 03:40 PM (sGotD)

432 Everybody should buy Jack Straw a beer.
Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (AwPyG)
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Weed do that.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:40 PM (Eicbe)

433 416 You read the Last of Us 2 spoilers?

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:22 PM (WqCOQ)

Not yet.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (mf5HN)

Can you do the rest of us a favor and record yourself while you're reading them?
Posted by: Methos at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (

Yes. On the podcast. So we can hear yours and Cochran's eyes rolling back into your heads.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 30, 2020 03:40 PM (G2zl5)

434 I'll buy Jack three cases of beer if Comey does time.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Don't be cheap. I will cash in a part of what's left of my soon to be worthless retirement account and buy a round for the entire hoarde, even the top shelf stuff, if anyone with a recognizable name is convicted. And I quite the sauce years ago.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...safety off at April 30, 2020 03:40 PM (3ptRC)

435 have heard through Informed Sources that Mrs. Strzok discovered that ANOTHER woman, this one a reporter at CNN, had left a tablet or computer in Strzok's bedroom or some other hard-to-explain place.

I find that hard to believe because, Look At Him.

Still, I have pretty decent sourcing for that.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 02:50 PM (PbpT7)

Hello, Ms. Strzok? This is the Mayflower Hotel. Your husband left his laptop in his room last night. We will be sending it to your home this afternoon.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (e1mEI)

He must have quite the nozzle, party-size.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:40 PM (CqE5x)

436 Brennan doesn't have a neck. How do you hang him?

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In this case a neck bi-section might be a good solution. Then both parts could be hung separately as desired.

Pike optional.

Posted by: Just Lily at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM (VLFBs)

437 I've fucking had it. Our Gov in MN just extended to May 18th. I am done with this shit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 30, 2020 03:40 PM (5Zd24)

Come to beautiful Wisconsin! We don't get sprung till May 26th!

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM (lwiT4)

438 383 Problems in Plain Sight:
========

I voted for Trump, and will again, but I have a beef with him and his team. His first term is almost done, and he's still dancing around personnel issues with kid gloves. What the hell is wrong with Trump and his personnel team??

Recall that when Obama Term-1 Team came into office, they cleaned house. They fired ALL of the ambassadors, fired a number of high profile peeps, undoubtedly got rid of many of more silently via reassignment, or whatev, and then inserted Obama loyalists at all levels, including Brennan, Rice and Holder. These three are human scum. Completely political and nothing else, just like the modern Dem party generally.

Even if you are upstanding and ethical, what do you do when you occupy the top seat in Government when confronted with 8-year legacy of populating the Fed. Work Force with 100% political loyalists who put the Dem party's interests above all other interests, to the point where these loyalties engage in criminal conduct?

You fire EVERYONE that Obama put in place. Then, you fire EVERYONE those people promoted. That's what you do.

What the hell is wrong with Trump's team, that we are almost 4-years into the game, and this STILL hasn't happened?

Posted by: RichardWindsor at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM (DRgs8)

439 Everybody should buy Jack Straw a beer.
Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 03:30 PM (AwPyG)

Everybody must get stoned.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM (CqE5x)

440 >>And who do you think that will be?

I really don't know because I don't know what evidence he has uncovered. We all can see who was part of this and who is corrupt but there is a big difference between knowing something and being able to prove something in court.

Strozk and Page seem obvious. McCabe too. Clinesmith seems to be a layup. Possibly James Baker from the DOD.

The real targets as far as I'm concerned are Brennan, Yates, Comey and Clapper. I have no idea if Durham has found enough to charge them but I hope so.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM (ZLI7S)

441 I'm in! I'll bring whatever you want plus the umbrellas for the drinks.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:38 PM (/669Q)

Can you bring plastic straws? I have umbrellas already.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM (ptqGC)

442 I'm in late. Who are we talking about?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (lwiT4)
*******
Lisa Page

Posted by: redridinghood at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM (wiXsO)

443 I think Incompetence was out of his depth most of the time he sat in the chair. I basically believe that he bought the whole "Trump is a Russian agent" and panicked after the election that "Cut it out" hadn't worked magic.

So, I believe the account that Barack told the IC to go hard on this and wrap it up by January (as it is recorded he said) and that in January he told people to do it "by the book", because he was ceding his office to Trump.

This is the same President that asked his handlers "Where are all the shovel-ready jobs?"

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:20 PM (Eicbe)

Nah Bro. Obama "I won" was looking for revenge on Flynn. The set up of Flynn was to backfill the operation against Trump. I will admit he may not have known everything, but that was more for plausible deniability about knowing every nook and cranny of the operation.

In Jan/2017 - the FBI knew Trump collusion was a joke and at that point knew Papo-whatshisname and Page were clean. Long before that.

They needed additional stuff re Flynn - so they threw everything they had. They had an enormous hole to backfill.

Posted by: Steve in SoCal at April 30, 2020 03:42 PM (Ozpxd)

444 nood

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 30, 2020 03:42 PM (UWqZJ)

445 Flynn should be given a whiffle ball bat wrapped razor wire and an hour to work over each member of the cabal in a closed room (equipped with nothing more than a floor drain, hose, and meat hook).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 03:42 PM (1g7ch)

446 CrossFire Razor...these guys need to update their fiction novels.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 30, 2020 03:42 PM (8OvyO)

447 409
new dump happening right now per Fox.

no clue whats in it yet, but said it's lengthy.

twss...

Posted by: SturmToddler at April 30, 2020 03:37 PM (8D42x)

Girthy too.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 30, 2020 03:42 PM (iEJaV)

448 324
That when Obama had the meeting with Trump about Presidentin, he warned Trump about two people.

Kim Jon Un, and Michael Flynn.

There was some hate there for some reason.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 30, 2020 03:24 PM (NgKpN)

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Until I heard about Flynn's proposal to audit the IC, I had bought
the story that it was about the timidity of hiring somebody Obama (PBUH)
fired.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 03:26 PM (Eicbe)

_________

Also heard someone say that Flynn was a vocal opponent of the Iran Deal that DogEater and Pony-FacedLyingSoldier made.

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 30, 2020 03:42 PM (2aYYl)

449 So if the people of MI run Kindergarten Hitler out on a rail is that sexist? I mean Whitmer is about as white as a zombie so it can't be racist.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2020 03:42 PM (WdocV)

450 Plenty of room in Rock Creek Park to build living facilities like that. Plenty.
And you'd still have most of the park left over for use by hikers and muggers.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 30, 2020 03:39 PM (M/9m0)
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Better idea - kick the Chinese out and use their embassy, plus the Newseum building. That should be plenty of room for everyone.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:43 PM (/669Q)

451 Can you bring plastic straws? I have umbrellas already.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM (ptqGC)
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You bet. I stocked up.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:43 PM (/669Q)

452 Lisa Page

Posted by: redridinghood at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM (wiXsO)

Thanks.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 03:44 PM (lwiT4)

453 We are all going to owe JackStraw a case of his favorite rum.
Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2020 03:35 PM (/669Q)

Count me in ! He has earned it

Posted by: My life is insanity at April 30, 2020 03:44 PM (tiJzb)

454 Twitterweasels still screeching about how he was recruited by Russia Russia Russia.

Unreal

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at April 30, 2020 03:45 PM (poZ6r)

455 Strozk and Page seem obvious. McCabe too. Clinesmith seems to be a layup. <<<<<<<<
So Jack thinks these four will face indictments.
Anybody else think so, or others?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 03:45 PM (r+sAi)

456 I love the cavalier "he pleaded guilty, so he was" bullshit.

People saying that can die in a fire.

They framed Flynn and threatened his family. They knew he was innocent, then set him up for a political prosecution that subverted law and the truth.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 30, 2020 03:45 PM (VpIIl)

457 Need a special place to The Delux Hanging .

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 30, 2020 03:46 PM (8OvyO)

458 Yet.... roughly HALF of my fellow citizens think this is a shitty
country to live in and want it leveled and rebuilt in another vision.

***

If you get to see how Europeans live it is pretty enlightening. Yeah, they get plenty of vacation time, but they live in hovels packed like sardines and if they are lucky enough to have a car it looks like something made by Tonka.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2020 03:46 PM (WdocV)

459
Come to beautiful Wisconsin! We don't get sprung till May 26th!
Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM

Which is even crazier we are at 320 some deaths. And we don't even know if they were all CV related. 47 of those were in one nursing home. I feel for them and their families but in MN they were predicting 55K with a lockdown and 75K without. We are at 320. WTF?

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 30, 2020 03:46 PM (5Zd24)

460 Possibly James Baker from the DOD.
~~~~~

Joe DiGenova (I know) thinks Baker flipped.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 30, 2020 03:48 PM (sGotD)

461 Have you looked to see where they are and who your neighbors would be?

https://bit.ly/35m6Kzm

I've lived in worse.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 30, 2020 03:48 PM (EUWQM)

462 So not to be that guy but...well....

Let's hear what date we should see the first arrest. Of even a nobody like Page or Strozk. This week? Next week? #Twoweeks?

And then how about someone that matters like Brennan or Comey. This month? End of the summer? Or is Barr going to arrest everyone a week before the election?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2020 03:48 PM (WdocV)

463 You fire EVERYONE that Obama put in place. Then, you fire EVERYONE those people promoted. That's what you do.

What the hell is wrong with Trump's team, that we are almost 4-years into the game, and this STILL hasn't happened?
Posted by: RichardWindsor at April 30, 2020 03:41 PM (DRgs

And replace them with people who are ethical, competent, and enjoy or at least tolerate extreme and constant harassment.

Where does one find such people?

Posted by: Emmie at April 30, 2020 03:48 PM (2YQBZ)

464 And replace them with people who are ethical, competent, and enjoy or at least tolerate extreme and constant harassment.

Where does one find such people?
***

Yeah....and remember if you cross the FNM they *will* destroy you. Good luck getting a job afterwards when you "put kids in cages"....

Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2020 03:49 PM (WdocV)

465 If that smarmy smug Brennan just gets indicted I might be willing to just forget the whole thing.

He's the instigator of all of this. It all dribbles down from him. Every bit of add on came at his direction or from his office.

He's the one who used backdoor communications to enlist some of our allies IC.

He's the one who's out pioused Comey and who's repeatedly said nothing but smears and negativity about Trump.

The rest should all get fired cuz I can see how an actual trial probably could not be won.

Posted by: jakee308 at April 30, 2020 03:50 PM (OikrH)

466 I'd pay to see Susan Rice swing. I believe the giant delay here has been negotiating for scalps with the Obama people. The deals are all cut, the players now have agreed who's going to be indicted and who ain't.
Now the theater has begun in earnest. That's all that remains, to convince us theres still a legal process here in the USSA.
LOLGF

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at April 30, 2020 03:51 PM (oYFyv)

467 440 >>And who do you think that will be?
==========

Look, the indictments are incoming. And soon. There has been a tremendous amount of movement on the Deep State unravelling in just the last 3 weeks, and the pace is increasing, now with new breaking stories each week. Something greased the wheels to make this happen, and that something is likely the Durham crossing the magic point where he already has enough evidence to proceed against a number of bad actors. As with all conspiracy-based cases, the process starts with the slam-dunks on the low-level people, and subsequently rolling them up as States' evidence.

BUT -- BIG problem here, folks, is the Calendar. We're now 9-months away from next Presidency. The Dem Candidate will always have a decent chance of winning the election, because our Country is mostly evenly divided over last 4 decades of Presidential elections.

If Durham indicted people TODAY, the first cases wouldn't hit the court room until what, Sept-to-Nov. 2020? The targets will get the best Army of lawyers DNC money can buy, and they will delay in hopes of power changing hands back to Dems.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at April 30, 2020 03:52 PM (DRgs8)

468 Posted late ONT my little county has more deaths than Wisconsin

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 03:53 PM (ZCEU2)

469 Lansing - Michigan ... Protesters move inside the Statehouse ... .Well deserved Governor Whitmer ..

WE THE PEOPLE .. Go Michigan!

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Sweet.
Governor Umbridge, your centaurs are waiting.

Posted by: Methos at April 30, 2020 03:53 PM (kOpft)

470 I'll buy Jack three cases of beer if Comey does time.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 03:32 PM (G4GU9)

*******

I'll buy him a years supply of whatever he drinks if Comey ever sees the inside of a jail cell

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at April 30, 2020 03:54 PM (flINI)

471 If Durham indicted people TODAY, the first cases wouldn't hit the court room until what,

Sept-to-Nov. 2020? The targets will get the best Army of lawyers DNC money can buy, and they will delay in hopes of power changing hands back to Dems.

Posted by: RichardWindsor

Sometime in 2021
I called it back in November that there wouldn't be trials this summer if the arrest was back then.
Not on cases this complex.

Six months to nine months before the first court date. And that's not counting delays and continuations.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 04:00 PM (2VADA)

472 Regarding Strozk's impending suicide - nothing to see there, move along.

Posted by: Born Free at April 30, 2020 04:32 PM (bg9Nk)

473 472 Regarding Strozk's impending suicide - nothing to see there, move along.

- It's gonna be a mother-grabbin' sprint to see who can get to DOJ Main the fastest...Strzok, Page or the other co-conspirators. "Sorry Charlie, we already assigned all our US Marshals to protect _______. Looks like you're SOL. Good luck out there!"

Posted by: Zombie Ronald Reagan, please save us! at April 30, 2020 04:43 PM (ie1PM)

474 I guess I don't understand FBI chain of command. How is this Stroke character in a position to override anything?

What was his title? I thought he was just General Special Agent Flunky Guy.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 30, 2020 02:49 PM (hku12)

His title might have been anything, but he was Comey's hatchet man. Why else would he have had to been involved in the Hillary E-mails AND Crossfire AND Mueller that we know of .... it sure isnt be cause of his competence and honesty.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2020 05:42 PM (eoQWY)

475 471 If Durham indicted people TODAY, the first cases wouldn't hit the court room until what,

Sept-to-Nov. 2020? The targets will get the best Army of lawyers DNC money can buy, and they will delay in hopes of power changing hands back to Dems.

Posted by: RichardWindsor

Sometime in 2021
I called it back in November that there wouldn't be trials this summer if the arrest was back then.
Not on cases this complex.

Six months to nine months before the first court date. And that's not counting delays and continuations.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 04:00 PM (2VADA)

So I work in Federal law enforcement. Testified in many grand juries. I can tell you that if an indictment drops, generally an arrest will follow- and typically not months after the fact. That isn't to say that an AUSA may not wait, but its unusual. Of course, everything about this case is unusual, so maybe my 16 years of service and expertise should be thrown out the window.

Posted by: secret squirrel at April 30, 2020 05:49 PM (xyImL)

476 The more I hear about our own law enforcement agencies that are supposed to be protecting us and serving our country abusing their power to destroy and imprison over politics is infuriating. These resources could have been used and a million other different useful and meaningful Waze like say protection from hostile regimes such as China and other countries that wish to do us as much harm as humanly possible. I can't even begin to explain the amount of Fury and abject despair that I am feeling over all of this. Where in the hell has my country gone?

Posted by: Getcha Pull at April 30, 2020 07:25 PM (aR6C/)

477 Another thing that perpetually aggravates me over all of this is we can thank George W effing Bush for all of this. Without the so-called Patriot Act none of this would have occurred. The GOP and other so-called conservatives are blind to the fact that the Democrats turn everything against we the people at every turn at every possibility. Goddamn George W bush and goddamn John effing McCain. Damn both of them to the Flames of hell

Posted by: Getcha Pull at April 30, 2020 07:29 PM (aR6C/)

478 Just curious mr rickb223 but on what authority are you speaking with regard to what now seems apparent further trials?

Your comments seem to negate every aspect of what has transpired throughout this Russia!!!!! debacle.

You have maintained some of the most pessimistic predictions and yet with each new piece of information/act, nothing seems to breach your shield of woe.

I am PISSEDat all of this just like the rest of us and wish for swift justice but we all know how fast lies travel vs justice. Our mainstream media pravda not withstanding.

This isn't going to happen as fast as any of us would like but it IS happening.

Posted by: Getcha Pull at April 30, 2020 07:34 PM (aR6C/)

479 I keep telling everybody here that you have no idea who Jack straw is but you all should damn well be thankful that he is on our beloved website. And that is all I'm going to say about this subject anymore

Posted by: Getcha Pull at April 30, 2020 07:44 PM (aR6C/)

480 So do I, Friend... So do I....

Posted by: Bubba - Rectum Wrecker in Cellblock D at April 30, 2020 08:03 PM (HNJW+)

481 62 I do so want to see Peter Strzok in orange jump suit

So do I, Friend... So do I....

Posted by: Bubba - Rectum Wrecker in Cellblock D at April 30, 2020 08:05 PM (HNJW+)

482 the chance any of them gets criminally punished?

0.00%

because the Rule of Law died sometime around 1900

Posted by: Shoey at April 30, 2020 08:45 PM (hmNVd)

483 Serious question: who dies for these crimes? Who goes to jail? Heck, who even just gets indicted? A few no name low level flunkies?

Show me someone *important* facing consequences for this or just drop it entirely

Posted by: Traddy at April 30, 2020 09:59 PM (5f0Sh)

484 Listen to David "King Cuck" French double down on how Flynn is guilty as sin!

The Flynn Saga
https://tinyurl.com/yb9rqmyx

David and Sarah discuss the latest after Michael Flynn's defense claims FBI notes show agents tried to entrap him, the viability of third-parties as Justin Amash flirts with running for president, and some legal news updates

Meanwhile, King Cuck remains all in on the Biden train!

A Shaky Case Against Joe Biden; A Strong Case Against the Media
https://tinyurl.com/ybmhxv4b

..."Finally, there seems to be no similar allegation against Biden. There are no claims of troubling patterns of behavior beyond the excessive touching and nuzzling that's been on public display for decades..."

You can't make this shit up!

In other news, David "King Cuck" French remains a huge NBA fan despite the NBA kissing Xi Jinping's ass at every moment possible and defending China in the media:

"Sigh. Some days the loss of the NBA hurts more than others. This is one of those days. So to ease our pain, let's remember a great night in a great season for the most lovable team in the NBA:"

I mean, this (wo)man, David "King Cuck" French is such a paragon of virtue and morals! Who cares if the NBA is sucking the dick of a country that is murdering Uyghurs, welding sick people into apartments, and lying to the world about the China Wuhan Virus that has killed 233K worldwide at last count!

Gotta have my multimillionaire, progressive black entertainers or I get the sadz!

This (wo)man has the morals of the dead rotting corpse of a rabid skunk run over in the middle of the highway.

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Documents: FBI Found No Derogatory Information On Michael Flynn and Ordered the Investigation Into Him to Be Closed.
Then Trump Deranged Political Operative Peter Strzok Ordered the Case Be Reopened to Find Anything.