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Lee Smith: What's Good for Communist China Is Good for America, Dianne Feinstein Says, As She Gets Rich on China Deals
No one represents the marriage of American policy toward China and doing business with the PRC better than Feinstein. Her promotion of trade with China to advance the interests of her constituents turned into apologetics on behalf of the Communist Party, as it aided her political ascent and augmented her husband’s portfolio. In October, USA Today listed Feinstein as the sixth-richest member of Congress, with a net worth of $58.5 million—a sum that vastly understates her actual wealth. Richard Blum, her husband, is himself worth at least another $1 billion. ... In 1994, Blum’s company, Blum Capital, had entered a joint venture to found Newbridge Capital, specializing in emerging markets, including Asia. Blum said in 1997 that less than 2% of the approximately $1.5 billion that his firm managed was committed to China. He held a $300 million stake in Northwest Airlines when it operated the only nonstop service from the United States to cities in China. In 2002, Newbridge was negotiating to acquire 20% of Shenzhen Development Bank. After some rough seas, it paid $145 million for an 18% share two years later, marking the first time a Chinese bank came under control of a foreign entity. Feinstein says that Blum’s business in China had no effect on her foreign policy or trade positions regarding the country. "We have built a firewall," she said of her relationship with her husband. "That firewall has stood us in good stead." Yet the record shows that the marriage between Blum's business and Feinstein's political career is a very close one. Journalists from Feinstein's home state's two largest media markets, Los Angeles and San Francisco, covered that relationship thoroughly and often quite skeptically throughout the 1990s and early 2000s. The fact that relationships that should have come under serious scrutiny have rarely been portrayed in anything other than a favorable light--the New Yorker breathlessly reported in a 2015 profile that China’s former President Jiang Zemin had spent Thanksgiving as a guest at the Blum-Feinstein home in San Francisco--reveals the extent to which the American elite has subscribed wholesale to the unproven theory that business with the Chinese Communist Party was good for America. What began as faith in the inherent goodness of relations between the United States and China eventually transformed into something dark, crude, and cynical. As Benjamin Weingarten recently reported, Feinstein has repeatedly criticized Trump's tariffs on China, turning her advocacy for the Communist Chinese government into an instrument of domestic political warfare--and cementing a pro-China policy as a foreign policy touchstone to rival support for the JCPOA, President Obama's Iran deal, within the Democratic Party. ... And the relationship [with China's soon-to-be-president] benefited Feinstein personally. In 1993, Jiang became president of China and invited Feinstein and Blum to Beijing to meet with party leadership. According to a 1994 Los Angeles Times story, Blum was planning to bundle $2 million to $3 million of his own with another $150 million from other investors to invest in state-owned enterprises, including telecommunications equipment. Feinstein said at the time that Blum's economic interest in China was "news to me." The couple denied that his business in China profited from her then 15-year friendship with the president of China. "He is in San Francisco running his business, I am in Washington being a United States senator, and they are two separate things," Feinstein told reporters. "I don't know how I can prove it to people like you. Maybe I get divorced. Maybe that is what you want." There's a logic to Feinstein's self-pity--she was being singled out for doing what everyone else was also doing, or dreamed of doing. Taking a piece of the action was good for America, the winners told themselves.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 22, 2020 01:13 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 22, 2020 01:13 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at April 22, 2020 01:14 PM (lXLgC)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:14 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 22, 2020 01:15 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Feinsteen's Driver at April 22, 2020 01:16 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:16 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2020 01:16 PM (X/Pw5)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:16 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: davidt at April 22, 2020 01:16 PM (l3+k2)
Money! I Get MASSIVE payola from the Chinks! And vacation condos stocked with yellow boys! Soflee soflee sucky money!
Posted by: Dread Butt Pirate Inslee at April 22, 2020 01:17 PM (d6DSt)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 22, 2020 01:17 PM (SAK2A)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
It's certainly far more widespread than Feinstein. McConnell is probably in it up to his eyeballs as well. Most of Congress is probably.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 22, 2020 01:17 PM (j3npP)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 22, 2020 01:18 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 22, 2020 01:18 PM (ifmtJ)
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 22, 2020 01:18 PM (Ez6QX)
[X] Full of very expensive designer ice cream[ ] Not full of very expensive designer ice cream
Posted by: pep at April 22, 2020 01:18 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Winnie the Pooh at April 22, 2020 01:18 PM (NGm/n)
Feinstein: "It has no effect. Don't worry about it."
Press: "Okay, cool."
Trump: "To avoid the possibility of the appearance of a conflict-of-interest, I am - in an unprecedented move - moving all of my companies into a trust to be managed by my children and stepping back from all operations and decision-making of the Trump organization. In addition, in another unprecedented move, as my last act as the operator of these companies, I have instructed them to remit any profit earned by domestic or foreign government business to be donated to the United States Treasure."
Press: CORRUPT! EMOLUMENTS!
That passes muster. Not fake news at all.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2020 01:19 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: DiFi's Cook at April 22, 2020 01:19 PM (88+cf)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 22, 2020 01:19 PM (ifmtJ)
Nasty piece of work she is.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, something something at April 22, 2020 01:19 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
It's certainly far more widespread than Feinstein. McConnell is probably in it up to his eyeballs as well. Most of Congress is probably.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 22, 2020 01:17 PM (j3npP)
I would t be opposed to lining up these jack@sses.
Line them all up. I'd be willing to see what happens.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 22, 2020 01:19 PM (Xt7n2)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:19 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Deep State 910 at April 22, 2020 01:19 PM (qLs5f)
+++++++++++++
And here I thought that "what's good for GM is good for America" was corporatist horseshit. Our betters were playing for much higher stakes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2020 01:19 PM (hYcqw)
Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes ...
Posted by: Adriane the Landscaping Critic ... at April 22, 2020 01:19 PM (LPnfS)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 22, 2020 01:20 PM (T9Hmo)
Ummm....wut?!
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 01:20 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 22, 2020 01:20 PM (gLvCH)
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 01:20 PM (BAsqb)
Knowingly selling out your country is traitorous.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at April 22, 2020 01:20 PM (JY8Ei)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 22, 2020 01:20 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
It's certainly far more widespread than Feinstein. McConnell is probably in it up to his eyeballs as well. Most of Congress is probably.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 22, 2020 01:17 PM (j3npP)
What China has learned, from watching others, is that politicians and media can be bought.
So they do.
Everywhere, everybody. If there are people on the so-called right who think it's only happening on the left, they're deluding themselves.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (hku12)
I'm beginning to suspect that the dems/commies don't give a shit about anybody including the idiots that vote for them except for fellow rich dems/commies
Posted by: YIKES! at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (t6XCL)
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (cF8AT)
"What Dr. Barbay fails to understand is that it was a very big check."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Go Nuts with Hermit's Harangues from the Outrage Outlet! at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (sGfPf)
Mandel. Oy vey. Such a cuck. I bet his wife wakes up every day and thinks "I was born with a pussy. Why did I get another one? One is enough. Sad!"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (Ibl1K)
Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (uh2Uo)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (BiNEL)
Barring representatives and senators from having incomes beyond their government pay?
But then what to do with their spouses and children and friends?
It would be nice if the voters would yank on the chains a bit more. You know, by seeing that their senator is bought and paid for by China and caring the least bit about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (LvTSG)
- criminals in our Ruling and Donor Class still roaming free and drawing breath: not tyrannical
- wearing masks, which are proven to reduce the R0
- continued immigration during Great Depression unemployment numbers: not tyrannical
- bailing out hedge funds, banks, billionaires, foreigners, and multinational corporations: not socialism
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (8j6Fo)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 22, 2020 01:18 PM (8fB/R)
You spelled country wrong.
Posted by: National Divorce at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (sQq+E)
It's certainly far more widespread than Feinstein. McConnell is probably in it up to his eyeballs as well. Most of Congress is probably.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 22, 2020 01:17 PM (j3npP)
There's no doubt.
However, the emboldened, in your face hardy FUCK YOU, plebean attitude of Feinstein and her ilk should be punished. Severely.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (BiNEL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa6wHHbqRqU
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 01:20 PM (BAsqb)
Ryan is a subversive fellow.
I ain't saying he's a conservative (whatever that is) or anything, but he sure doesn't mind poking the left.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (epbzE)
Barring representatives and senators from having incomes beyond their government pay?
But then what to do with their spouses and children and friends?
It would be nice if the voters would yank on the chains a bit more. You know, by seeing that their senator is bought and paid for by China and caring the least bit about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (LvTSG)
Easy...TERM LIMITS!
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Harry Caray at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: artemis at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (r+sAi)
Barring representatives and senators from having incomes beyond their government pay?
But then what to do with their spouses and children and friends?
It would be nice if the voters would yank on the chains a bit more. You know, by seeing that their senator is bought and paid for by China and caring the least bit about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (LvTSG)
...
Return Senators to the control of state legislatures?
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (yL25O)
Me Chinese
Me play joke
Me buy up all your politicians and media and then release a deadly bat virus to kill your economy
Everybody now!
Posted by: ... at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (b+qEC)
Posted by: wth at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (v0R5T)
Easy...TERM LIMITS!
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (cF8AT)
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I don't think that would fix foreign governments from being able to buy American senators.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Joe Mama at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (tqaln)
It's certainly far more widespread than Feinstein. McConnell is
probably in it up to his eyeballs as well. Most of Congress is probably.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 22, 2020 01:17 PM (j3npP)
There's no doubt.
However, the emboldened, in your face hardy FUCK YOU, plebean attitude of Feinstein and her ilk should be punished. Severely.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)
Yet their constituents continue to send them back to DC.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: artemis at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (AwPyG)
You say that as if it is a bad thing.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 22, 2020 01:25 PM (GhGb5)
chains a bit more. You know, by seeing that their senator is bought and
paid for by China and caring the least bit about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (LvTSG)
Hahahahahah!
Where my money at???
Posted by: Free Shit Army at April 22, 2020 01:25 PM (88+cf)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (N39Ws)
Stupid is as stupid does, sir.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (yL25O)
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Assuming that the state legislators care as much or more about the foreign influences in the federal government than the electorate. Since we've long been in the age when partisanship is more important than the good of the nation, I imagine the California legislature giving Feinstein a medal for this rather than punishing her.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:25 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 22, 2020 01:25 PM (VjkWl)
Man I NEED this lockdown to end. I'm full of box chardonnay and I can't even go to Restoration Hardware to buy high end mid-mod furnishings for my new shed. Quelle horreur!
Posted by: Seth Mandel at April 22, 2020 01:25 PM (Ibl1K)
And she still hasn't had to answer for having a Chinese spy on her Senate staff for a few decades.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (yL25O)
I didn't fully grasp it until I read the Federalist Papers, but that amendment was one of the biggest mistakes in our history.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (BAsqb)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (T9Hmo)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (yL25O)
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Assuming that the state legislators care as much or more about the foreign influences in the federal government than the electorate. Since we've long been in the age when partisanship is more important than the good of the nation, I imagine the California legislature giving Feinstein a medal for this rather than punishing her.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:25 PM (LvTSG)
...
At least it might cost China more.
They'd have to pay the senator plus fund something in their states as well.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (yL25O)
___________
Same as her 20-year Chinese Communist Party spy-chauffeur cum handler.
Posted by: ShainS at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (7HaVX)
Posted by: KIM JONG UN at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (lMn1U)
Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (uh2Uo)
Seems rather cute, doesn't it. For weeks we were told China has this thing under control. Then where there starts to be talk of re-opening the American economy, suddenly in China they're seeing the dreaded SECOND WAVE what's call kill everybody, totally not kidding this time, you guys.
Yeah, I think this time I'm just gonna not try to kick that football.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (hku12)
Posted by: dananjcon at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (u6xw0)
Posted by: garrett at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (+cYfr)
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 01:27 PM (8D42x)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 22, 2020 01:27 PM (8fB/R)
69 Return Senators to the control of state legislatures?
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (yL25O)
I didn't fully grasp it until I read the Federalist Papers, but that amendment was one of the biggest mistakes in our history.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (BAsqb)
It'll never be reversed.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at April 22, 2020 01:27 PM (sQq+E)
Let that sink in.
Posted by: dananjcon at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (u6xw0)
...
you're thinking replacement for RBG, right?
I mean 10 years from now.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:27 PM (yL25O)
Where my money at???
Posted by: Free Shit Army at April 22, 2020 01:25 PM (88+cf)
Where da white wimmin at?
Posted by: Sheriff Bart at April 22, 2020 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at April 22, 2020 01:27 PM (sQq+E)
Of course not. Just saying, it was a huge mistake.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 01:27 PM (BAsqb)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (LvTSG)
I'm sure there are laws now that are being flouted. Not sure any new law would help. Term limits would at the very least reduce their ability to make bank for DECADES.
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 01:28 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 22, 2020 01:28 PM (iuFgi)
Posted by: garrett at April 22, 2020 01:28 PM (+cYfr)
Let that sink in.
Posted by: dananjcon at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (u6xw0)
86 is the new Stalin!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 22, 2020 01:28 PM (8fB/R)
At some point, we really have to seriously ask the question: if you have over a billion dollars, what is your reason for wanting to be in congress? Why not retire to family, leisure, and hobbies?
I can see continuing to work when you've got that much money, because it's the work that is how you continue to have that much money.
Which probably answers the question of why Feinstein would want to continue in congress.
Posted by: Media Scare Machine at April 22, 2020 01:28 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at April 22, 2020 01:28 PM (uh2Uo)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
At their ages, Covid could wipe out half of Congress.
Dammit! Get back to work!!!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 01:28 PM (7jTtI)
"It's a big club. And you and me ain't in it."
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 22, 2020 01:28 PM (HIAkX)
________
Oh, come on Lee, you don't believe that -- and nobody believes that, not even the American traitors who personally profited.
Posted by: ShainS at April 22, 2020 01:29 PM (7HaVX)
Posted by: Covid International Union at April 22, 2020 01:29 PM (tqaln)
Did the article mention the fact that Blum was running the US operations of COSCO back when the Chinese shipping company was caught trying to smuggle full-auto Chink-AKs into the urban shitholes of SoCal back in the 90s?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2020 01:29 PM (EGyGV)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 22, 2020 01:29 PM (HIAkX)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 22, 2020 01:27 PM (8fB/R)
Pelosi:" Can't I eat my ice cream in peace!
Posted by: WisRich at April 22, 2020 01:29 PM (G0vdT)
Maybe the President should appoint an Attorney General.
Posted by: Carole Lombard at April 22, 2020 01:29 PM (Y9uNK)
Posted by: artemis at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (AwPyG)
++++++++++++++
I think he should do it anyway.
But it is more than dilemma. If he upsets the apple cart and starts exposing that fact that probably 95% of congress and probably 75% of everyone over GS-13 is on the take, he'll get dead. Literally dead, and very quickly. I have no doubt that if anyone upsets the grift, that person is dead.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2020 01:29 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (yL25O)
I didn't fully grasp it until I read the Federalist Papers, but that amendment was one of the biggest mistakes in our history.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (BAsqb)
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Checks and balances was never supposed to just horizontal within the federal government, it was supposed to have a vertical component manifested in the states having direct say in how the federal government was run. That happened two ways. The first was through the election of the president. States elect the president, technically, not the people. The other was the Senate.
The presidential election has morphed over the years to become 50 popular races, but the Senate being elected directly has probably done more to destroy the American system of governance than any other single action. Suddenly, the states became captive clients of the federal government. They could screech all day, but they couldn't force any change.
And now, if we were to suddenly go back to the system, it wouldn't work because we now have decades of states receiving federal funds for different things. It would probably make state dependence on the federal government worse.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:30 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 22, 2020 01:30 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: HoneyHammock at April 22, 2020 01:30 PM (sQq+E)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (T9Hmo)
Media probably more than anyone else. I don't pretend to understand the business model in detail, but I got the impression before the digital age, media types kinda sorta felt obliged to tell stories that their readers/viewers, the people who paid their salaries, wanted/needed them to tell.
So now, if you are a corporation or foreign nation, why WOULDN'T you pay NBC CNN and the NY Slimes to run "stories" about how wonderful you are.
How else are they going to make money.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2020 01:31 PM (hku12)
But, what do I know...
Posted by: Marcus T at April 22, 2020 01:31 PM (VpIIl)
Insider trading, Chinese spies on her payroll for decades, now this.
Maybe the President should appoint an Attorney General.
Posted by: Carole Lombard at April 22, 2020 01:29 PM (Y9uNK)
IIANM, Insider trading was/is legal for Congress Critters. When they passed that legislation, they wisely included exceptions for themselves.As always, laws are for the little people.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 22, 2020 01:31 PM (N39Ws)
Let that sink in.
Posted by: dananjcon
Mandatory retirement at 72.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 22, 2020 01:30 PM (2DOZq)
==========
"Death at 75."
-That guy Biden hired
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:31 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: REDACTED at April 22, 2020 01:31 PM (rpxSz)
For perspective: YT is so overloaded with usage that hi-res processing for my uploads is taking me HOURS per video and streams are defaulting to lo-res, with manual switching for native-res, in order to save bandwidth and manage the crazy load.
It must be cratering ad revenues causing these media companies to choke, because it sure ain't traffic. I guarantee they're all busier than normal.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 22, 2020 01:31 PM (Ibl1K)
she doesn't look a day over a hundred
Lets face it a lot of them look like the Crypt keeper
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2020 01:32 PM (5bxa0)
They're just burning clock now.
Posted by: HoneyHammock at April 22, 2020 01:30 PM (sQq+E)
++++++++++++
How?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2020 01:32 PM (hYcqw)
Having my state select my Senator is not my ideal solution either. We would never had have a Cruz.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 22, 2020 01:32 PM (2DOZq)
she doesn't look a day over a hundred
She was really something before electricity.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 22, 2020 01:33 PM (HIAkX)
Dammit! Get back to work!!!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 01:28 PM (7jTtI)
Force them in together at gunpoint.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 22, 2020 01:33 PM (j3npP)
They're just burning clock now.
Posted by: HoneyHammock at April 22, 2020 01:30 PM (sQq+E)
++++++++++++
How?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2020 01:32 PM (hYcqw)
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I don't know, but I do see this:
https://tinyurl.com/y8ddtyvu
"McConnell says GOP will confirm Trump court picks through pandemic"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:33 PM (LvTSG)
It is a bad idea unless you are making billions off of it, which is exactly what happened.
BTW, I have been reading about how certain municipalities have been "donated" DJI drones that will ostensibly collect data on SIP miscreants.
Those same DJI drones transmit that data back to China, which is why the US military no longer uses them.
Also BTW, ZOOM conference call software, if you are required to use it for work, wants to copy and upload anything in your download folder.
So, get the pr0n out of there first.
Posted by: navybrat, in his coop at April 22, 2020 01:33 PM (w7KSn)
https://tinyurl.com/yb6kd4v8
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 22, 2020 01:34 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, something something at April 22, 2020 01:34 PM (PiwSw)
Having my state select my Senator is not my ideal solution either. We would never had have a Cruz.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 22, 2020 01:32 PM (2DOZq)
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Yeah, popular elections have their uses. Trump would have never become president if 50 state political machines were choosing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:34 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: artemis at April 22, 2020 01:35 PM (AwPyG)
**
Well, when you've been amassing wealth for a millennia, Beelzebub would be envious.
Posted by: dananjcon at April 22, 2020 01:35 PM (u6xw0)
For perspective: YT is so overloaded with usage that hi-res processing for my uploads is taking me HOURS per video and streams are defaulting to lo-res, with manual switching for native-res, in order to save bandwidth and manage the crazy load.
It must be cratering ad revenues causing these media companies to choke, because it sure ain't traffic. I guarantee they're all busier than normal.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 22, 2020 01:31 PM (Ibl1K)
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I can tell you that the one part of our business that has not slowed down is mission critical stuff. Data centers.
We just got a huge national client Friday too, one that streams a lot. So they're all probably trying to respond to demand.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:35 PM (yL25O)
It's not like the chinese were saying they would "get strong, and then get even.
It's not like they were stealing US IP and giving our companies nlack choice of trying to get a fraction of a share of the chinese market, or losing their business to pirated chinese good.
It's not like they were pumping money into political campaigns to buy our politicians.
It's not like they were teaching their kids that the West had humiliated China for 100 years and stolen all their wealth and technology
It's not like they were sending legions of citizens into our research institutes, schools, corporations and government and then twisting their arms to have them spy and steal technology.
Oh, wait, they did.
I could go on, and I could provide links, but I am lazy
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 01:35 PM (LWu6U)
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Yeah...DiFi looked like a bobblehead. Some huge head on a stick body.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 22, 2020 01:35 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 22, 2020 01:36 PM (KZzsI)
Well, unless you can get your hand in the till. Then just keep it there.
Posted by: Gaylord Obama at April 22, 2020 01:36 PM (uS2EJ)
we get it, we can ask Alexa to play the stones on iheartradio...
Posted by: DanMan at April 22, 2020 01:36 PM (XTiHL)
Posted by: ShainS at April 22, 2020 01:36 PM (7HaVX)
Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (uh2Uo)
That is why they need to let everyone out and let it run its natural course.
Unless they aren't telling us something.
I have to say, the "doctors" from all corners of the Earth are acting overly paranoid which makes me wonder. The way they are washing off groceries, tossing the plastic bags right away, rinsing all fruits and veggies in the sink, wiping down the kitchen after unpacking and cleaning, etc. The extent they are going through themselves, even if young and healthy. It's bizarre. Not just doing it, but telling us how they are doing it.
I remember at the beginning of all of this when some Indian doctors/scientists said they found HIV intertwined within the coronavirus. They were shut down very quickly and told to retract what they said.
A lot of the symptoms of wuhan virus matches that of HIV, like cough. The other thing I heard is that HIV tests negative too, two, three times in some cases, just like this one does.
Not going black helicopter conspiracy, but the way the doctors are acting it's a bit strange if it is simply a virus that is more contagious than any other.
Maybe it's not death they are afraid of, but what it leaves behind in your body.
It is man made. If it's man made then we have no idea how our bodies will react after we show no symptoms or have produced "antibodies". They are saying it is possible it can reactivate in the body. A possibility, but no proof.
No proof of anything. And no real data anywhere. But the doctors sure are acting strange.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 22, 2020 01:37 PM (8fB/R)
New York Gov. Cuomo warns that recklessly returning to work could endanger the lives of others and says to those currently out of a job:
"By the way - you want to go to work? Go take a job as an essential worker. Do it tomorrow."
Video: https://tinyurl.com/yd23cp5y
There's more in the video that's even worse.
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 01:37 PM (cF8AT)
Peter Schweizer has been writing books about this corruption, including the most recent one that details what Hunter Biden and Kerry's son were up to with China. He has a whole team of accountant researchers poring over whatever records they can find.
Like his Clinton Ca$h book, it's as if these books and their details are somehow rendered invisible within the Acela corridor - not a single reporter or anyone else ever seems to mention their revelations about how d@mn corrupt our political class is. Except for DJT from the campaign trail.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 22, 2020 01:37 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 01:37 PM (o2MD2)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 01:35 PM (LWu6U
That's the one that's self inflicted and bothers me the most.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 22, 2020 01:37 PM (2DOZq)
Having my state select my Senator is not my ideal solution either. We would never had have a Cruz.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 22, 2020 01:32 PM (2DOZq)
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Yeah, popular elections have their uses. Trump would have never become president if 50 state political machines were choosing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:34 PM (LvTSG)
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Even with popular election we can't get rid of Cornyn.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:37 PM (yL25O)
Let that sink in.
Posted by: dananjcon at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (u6xw0)
86 is the new Stalin!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 22, 2020 01:28 PM (8fB/R)
I remain convinced, Senators for the most part aren't really human. They're the head of a sort of living organism, and they're hooked up to all the goo that flows to and from them.
They're animated when they need to be, and otherwise, they just absorb the goo on one end, send it out on the other.
And beneath them are a massive hive of drones who keep the organism "alive."
So when one gets old, they continue to keep it going, until they can find a new host to occupy the head.
And they will. Hers will be some ambitious congresscritter or state senator, or maybe even Gavin. Garcetti. Someone like that. They'll gladly have their carcasses hooked up to the machine.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2020 01:38 PM (hku12)
Posted by: French Jeton at April 22, 2020 01:38 PM (9Nrxu)
endanger the lives of others and says to those currently out of a job:
"By the way - you want to go to work? Go take a job as an essential worker. Do it tomorrow."
So, essential? So, he's being layed off then?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: ShainS at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM
Wait...that's a job?!
Posted by: Shep! at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (ejd/p)
How else to explain China's GDP going from 180 billion in 1980 to 16 trillion in 40 years?
It wasn't by pluck, determination and Chinese exceptionalism.
It was cold hard cash in the pockets of the Biden's, Romney's, McConnells and Clinton's.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (wcygf)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (akpIq)
Let that sink in.
Posted by: dananjcon
She should have been 86'ed years ago.
Posted by: Bert G, From an Undisclosed Location at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (fIDYQ)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (CjFDo)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:37 PM (yL25O)
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Without knowing the details, I can almost guarantee Cornyn's strength comes from constituent services. That's one of the greatest sources of Senate incumbents' power. Their staffs work to get Medicare issues straightened out, and then they get a loyal family of voters because "Cornyn helped Momma get her Medicare."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:33 PM (LvTSG)
Once they return to session.
They haven't voted on judges in weeks. The DNC media complex will do everything to prevent congress from returning.
Get ready for more DC is a hot spot!!! stories.
Posted by: HoneyHammock at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (sQq+E)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 22, 2020 01:40 PM (pw+jk)
It's NYC Jake.
Posted by: Cheri at April 22, 2020 01:40 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Satan at April 22, 2020 01:40 PM (o2MD2)
They haven't voted on judges in weeks. The DNC media complex will do everything to prevent congress from returning.
Get ready for more DC is a hot spot!!! stories.
Posted by: HoneyHammock at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (sQq+E)
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We'll see. McConnell says they're returning first week of May.
McConnell knows that the judiciary is his legacy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:40 PM (LvTSG)
Said order, it is said, shall mandate the wearing of a mask when out of one's own home.
For the next 30 days.
* County Judge is effectively the "Mayor" of the County, and Harris County is where Houston, TX is found.
Now then.
Can anyone direct my attention to any Statute in the Texas Civil Code which assigns or delegates such a power to a County Judge?
If a County Sheriff were to accost some unfortunate soul for NOT wearing a mask, what would be written on the citation?
Which charge would be brought in court, under which Article and Section of the Texas Criminal Code?
If she or her
Easy for me to say: "Fuck this shit, I shall not obey." 'Cause I live in Galveston County.
But when I go up to Houston to do business? (Collector's Firearms just opened it's NEW store, twice the size, at Westheimer & Voss. It was ALREADY the World's Largest Gun Store, and now it's DOUBLE the size!)
Yeah, I won't obey up in Harris County, either.
Now, which one of you Morons or 'Ettes can I count on to post my bail?
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 22, 2020 01:40 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (5bxa0)
It's NYC Jake.
Posted by: Cheri at April 22, 2020 01:40 PM (oiNtH)
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Still better than some stupid Republican, huh, Jake?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: DanMan at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (XTiHL)
Barring representatives and senators from having incomes beyond their government pay?
But then what to do with their spouses and children and friends?
It would be nice if the voters would yank on the chains a bit more. You know, by seeing that their senator is bought and paid for by China and caring the least bit about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (LvTSG
why not have a VERY public yearly audit of them, their kids and families, and their parents, and their brothers and sisters and families.
and make it VERY Public. EVERY line item, every transaction, every holding, everything they're attached to get published online with links, references, and supporting info.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (8D42x)
Mitch and spouse sure are, similarly.
Nixon was wrong.
Posted by: navybrat, in his coop at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (w7KSn)
"By the way - you want to go to work? Go take a job as an essential worker. Do it tomorrow."
So instead of sitting by oneself in a cubicle, he'd rather you go become a cashier at a grocery store?
How's that any safer? Man, Fredo IS dumb.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (7jTtI)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 22, 2020 01:37 PM (8fB/R)
I do agree with this. I've seen quite a bit of "I don't necessarily agree with shutting the economy down forever, but still....." from a few doctor retweets.
As if there's something they want to say, but won't.
Posted by: Allie at April 22, 2020 01:42 PM (vmRc0)
Posted by: I Have Questions at April 22, 2020 01:42 PM (+v+zN)
Recall her ass.
Posted by: HoneyHammock at April 22, 2020 01:42 PM (sQq+E)
why not have a VERY public yearly audit of them, their kids and families, and their parents, and their brothers and sisters and families.
and make it VERY Public. EVERY line item, every transaction, every holding, everything they're attached to get published online with links, references, and supporting info.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (8D42x)
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1) Like all rich people, they'll find ways around it.
and, more importantly
2) Dianne Feinstein had a Chinese spy as her driver for 20 years and no one gave a shit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:42 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:37 PM (yL25O)
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Without knowing the details, I can almost guarantee Cornyn's strength comes from constituent services. That's one of the greatest sources of Senate incumbents' power. Their staffs work to get Medicare issues straightened out, and then they get a loyal family of voters because "Cornyn helped Momma get her Medicare."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:39 PM (LvTSG)
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He's a ghost until six weeks before the election and then he has the strongest social media presence blaring his supposed bona-fides you could ever imagine.
I have a lobbyist friend who confirms that Cornyn is a genuine asshole in person.
He may do some good constituent work, I truly don't know. But my sense is that he just coasts through every time.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:42 PM (yL25O)
I do think there needs to be less squabbling about homesteading get rights in those circles, and more discussion of what you do with a sovereign entity that is abusing or neglecting something it claims as its own.
Like say China and it's subject population that the government feels free to treat worse than chattel slaves. I doubt blindly trading with them is an ideal approach in a moral world.
Posted by: Kindltot--It's not a mask, it's a spit hood at April 22, 2020 01:42 PM (bMMCK)
Posted by: French Jeton at April 22, 2020 01:38 PM (9Nrxu)
I suppose I should answer that one, embarassing as it may be. Our church is small and located in Illinois, which is in prison till the end of June. Because we are holding no services, no offerings are being taken and the church is on the brink of closing, leaving us with no salary. I feel very awkward about it all, but people have been more than wonderful. Truly wonderful.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:42 PM (lwiT4)
No.
I want you buried up to your eyes in pigshit so that the families of all those who've died from CoVid-19 can walk by and piss on your head.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 22, 2020 01:42 PM (TSNUS)
Yes, I strongly recommend both "Extortion: How Politicians Extract Your Money, Buy Votes, and Line Their Own Pockets" and "Throw Them All Out: How Politicians and Their Friends Get Rich Off of Insider Stock Tips, Land Deals, and Cronyism That Would Send the Rest of Us to Prison".
Especially for former. We can never fight corruption until we recognize how much congress uses things such as milker bills to force people to give them money. If we keep treating Danegeld as bribery, nothing we do will stop the corruption.
Posted by: Media Scare Machine at April 22, 2020 01:43 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at April 22, 2020 01:43 PM (xceTB)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Yep. There is no doubt in my mind that he would still blast PDT for being the cause of all evil.
Posted by: Cheri at April 22, 2020 01:43 PM (oiNtH)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
I'll drive up the coast and pay it yuans Jim. No worries.
Posted by: DanMan at April 22, 2020 01:43 PM (XTiHL)
why not have a VERY public yearly audit of them, their kids and families, and their parents, and their brothers and sisters and families.
and make it VERY Public. EVERY line item, every transaction, every holding, everything they're attached to get published online with links, references, and supporting info.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (8D42x)
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Senators should be made to place all their assets into a trust, one trust. All the senator's assets in one combined trust.
That trust would then be managed in a very public fashion. Every sale, every purchase, shown in real time.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:44 PM (yL25O)
I have a lobbyist friend who confirms that Cornyn is a genuine asshole in person.
He may do some good constituent work, I truly don't know. But my sense is that he just coasts through every time.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:42 PM (yL25O)
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That doesn't surprise me.
Cornyn doesn't need to actually be the one helping people. He just needs to keep a staff that does it for him, and then he shows up every six years for a few weeks and rides his way to re-election.
You want to know why Jeff Flake was polling so badly by the end of his single term in the Senate? His staff was essentially telling his constituents to fix their own problems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:44 PM (LvTSG)
they are blaming voting in person for at least 7 cases of Kung flu...
They are really gonna try to ram vote by mail only on us aren't they?
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (5bxa0)
Oh for pete's sake. You should have seen how many times they hosed us down with Lysol when we voted in our precinct. Strict social distancing. I couldn't even come in with my own husband.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:44 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:24 PM (LvTSG)
Note: This is just me spitballing, so feel free to add, subtract, multiply, divide or disagree as you wish.
AMENDMENT 28:
1. No member of the United States House of Representatives or United States Senate, or their spouses, children, or dependents may receive any other than salaried income for the duration of their terms of office.
2. Income from stocks, funds, property rentals, or any other source will be placed in escrow and cannot be claimed until the individual has not held any Federal office for a minimum period of two years.
3. Each Senator and Representative shall be audited by Internal Revenue during the first quarter of each calendar year, and may be subjected to random audits or audits for cause.
4. After each election, any monies taken in by each campaign that remain unspent will be divided equally between all private persons who donated to the campaign within 60 days. A corporate entity, under this rule, shall have equal weight as a private individual, and will be reimbursed equally.
5. Candidates for Federal office may not hold any paid position for any charity, hedge fund, nonprofit organization or any registered tax exempt organization for the duration of their term of office, and for ten years thereafter.
6. Violation will be punished by confiscation of the entirety of the monetary source in question and forfeiture of pension or medical benefits owed, for life.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 01:44 PM (BAsqb)
ticker tape parade in NYC for healthcare workers "is the stupidest idea
I've ever heard of".
If I see one more dance music video posted of idle healthcare workers I may have a cardiac arrest.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 22, 2020 01:44 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 22, 2020 01:45 PM (DY3v8)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 22, 2020 01:45 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 22, 2020 01:45 PM (85Gof)
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim
They are probably going off of some obscure code under health during a declared emergency.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 01:45 PM (7jTtI)
(with $100k in Facebook ads)
Remember how many in the media repeated that phrase, "hacked"?
But her having a spy as a driver, all these politicians and their families making millions in China, China stealing the GAO personal database, China bribing universities all though the US with millions, millions more in bribes to the media and ... Russia, Russia Russia!!
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at April 22, 2020 01:46 PM (vPKfA)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:42 PM (lwiT4)
Absolutely ZERO reason for you to be embarrassed!
This is not of your doing and your church Elders need to have their heads examined!
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 01:46 PM (cF8AT)
they are blaming voting in person for at least 7 cases of Kung flu...
They are really gonna try to ram vote by mail only on us aren't they?
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (5bxa0)
Oh for pete's sake. You should have seen how many times they hosed us down with Lysol when we voted in our precinct. Strict social distancing. I couldn't even come in with my own husband.
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I have no doubt it'll be forced on us for November.
Then we can kiss everything good-bye.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 22, 2020 01:46 PM (vg8iE)
Barring representatives and senators from having incomes beyond their government pay?
But then what to do with their spouses and children and friends?
It would be nice if the voters would yank on the chains a bit more. You know, by seeing that their senator is bought and paid for by China and caring the least bit about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (LvTSG)
Easy...TERM LIMITS!
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (cF8AT)
No no no. Haven't you been paying attention? The solution is to pay them more. A whole shit ton more! Because that will solve the problem of them AND their spouses and kids from exploiting the system to make even more money by selling off their influence. Oh and also to deny their constituents first amendment rights by not allowing you to make political donations to the incumbent and only their general election challenger.
Posted by: Buzzion at April 22, 2020 01:46 PM (Sg/64)
Posted by: torabora at April 22, 2020 01:47 PM (Y274z)
This is not of your doing and your church Elders need to have their heads examined!
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 01:46 PM (cF8AT)
LOL Tami - I do agree with you on that last point. I certainly do!
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:47 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Kilro
I had direct experience with this in the 80s, in high tech, employing a Chinese national. I have said this many time in the past here on HQ.
He returned to China to visit family and was interviewed upon arrival. They found out what industry he was in, and set up another interview with specialist in industry to see if he could "consult" to help them out. He had Chinese language business card.
He told me that he was afraid not to cooperate, since he was afraid his family would lose apartment in Beijing and have to move to province.
Later, in DC, I noticed many Chinese engineers had Chinese language business card even though they never traveled for our company and had no contact with Chinese speakers (officially)
I have had my hair on fire over china since the 80s.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 01:48 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 22, 2020 01:26 PM (T9Hmo)
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They not only steer it -- they write it.
Posted by: ShainS at April 22, 2020 01:48 PM (7HaVX)
But the money Beto brought in from out of state to try to beat Cruz wiped out A LOT of local reliable leaders.
Cornyn is a quiet liberal democrat.
Posted by: DanMan at April 22, 2020 01:48 PM (XTiHL)
That trust would then be managed in a very public fashion. Every sale, every purchase, shown in real time.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2020 01:44 PM (yL25O)
I like that idea. A fund that is very closely tied to the overall functioning of the American economy.
And when you leave the Senate (which you will, two terms max), you take out what percentage you put in.
Minus 1 100th of the national debt.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2020 01:48 PM (hku12)
Posted by: torabora at April 22, 2020 01:47 PM (Y274z)
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I bet the ugly sticks she's constantly swinging around and accidentally hitting herself in the face with initiated a trade or two as well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:48 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:44 PM (lwiT4)
So, whose husband did you go in with?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 01:48 PM (o2MD2)
Posted by: Sheriff Bart at April 22, 2020 01:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: CN at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at April 22, 2020 01:43 PM (xceTB)
I want to blame the influx of Blue state migrants for turning a previous Red Harris County to Blue. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (2DOZq)
and make it VERY Public. EVERY line item, every transaction, every holding, everything they're attached to get published online with links, references, and supporting info.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (8D42x)
So you get to look into my private life because of what my sister does? Fuck you. Die of cancer.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (SgjGX)
Barring representatives and senators from having incomes beyond their government pay?
But then what to do with their spouses and children and friends?
It would be nice if the voters would yank on the chains a bit more. You know, by seeing that their senator is bought and paid for by China and caring the least bit about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:22 PM (LvTSG)
But then there's the counter-argument that some people make : That the "Best of the Best" won't be attracted to run for office if there's no financial incentive in it for them...
Posted by: Allie at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (vmRc0)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 01:48 PM (o2MD2)
Karen's.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Buzzion
I would also give them more power.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: CN at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: brak at April 22, 2020 01:50 PM (cG+eD)
Posted by: PINOCHET at April 22, 2020 01:51 PM (sQq+E)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (LWu6U)
What a brilliant small government conservative approach to government!
Posted by: Buzzion at April 22, 2020 01:51 PM (Sg/64)
But then there's the counter-argument that some people make : That the "Best of the Best" won't be attracted to run for office if there's no financial incentive in it for them...
Posted by: Allie at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (vmRc0)
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I'd love to cut off all remuneration, but then you get only rich people being able to run for office, killing the idea of the citizen led legislature. No local guy could try, he'd have to be backed by other money just to eat.
I don't think there's a good solution, but I do like Vanya's idea for an amendment at 169.
It'll never happen, but I still like it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:51 PM (LvTSG)
They burn witches, don't they?
Posted by: CN at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (ONvIw)
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You stake veshtitsas through the heart, bury them at a forest crossroads to trap their souls, and pound the stake into ground above them.
Old ways are best ways, it's the only way to be sure.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (Ibl1K)
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (xceTB)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (LWu6U)
What a brilliant small government conservative approach to government!
Posted by: Buzzion at April 22, 2020 01:51 PM (Sg/64)
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Will that power extend to who can speak in public spaces?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (LvTSG)
It is certain that the only thing those seven people that day was go to vote. How do they pinpoint infection time
and place so precisely?
Posted by: French Jeton at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (9Nrxu)
Posted by: Allie at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (vmRc0)
A quarter mil a year plus housing allowance and free medical isn't incentive enough?
People who are actually there because they give a shit will work for much less.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (BAsqb)
why not have a VERY public yearly audit of them, their kids and families, and their parents, and their brothers and sisters and families.
and make it VERY Public. EVERY line item, every transaction, every holding, everything they're attached to get published online with links, references, and supporting info.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (8D42x)
That will entice good people to run for office.
Or, how about we get a press that will do their jobs evenly and root out corruption while shaming and exposing the crooks?
Posted by: jwest at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (mrrpT)
And that's the way it would be. And the it would be the same for Hilldog Clinton and Pelosi etc.
Posted by: Case at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (R4yL4)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:19 PM (lwiT4)
*******
hahaha Grammie
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (DifVR)
At the same time embargo of Chinese goods and a permanent travel ban for Chinese nationals.
China can't buy politicians when we destroy their economy.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: m at April 22, 2020 01:53 PM (Yhl4a)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 22, 2020 01:53 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 01:48 PM (o2MD2)
Karen's.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (lwiT4)
Shut'er down, here, Horde. This thread has gone and done been WON!
^ Threadwinner. Undisputed.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 22, 2020 01:53 PM (QzJWU)
yep, and getting more so since a bunch of us have been bailing out of there
I sold my house there for my full asking price and closed on 1/31/2020. What a stroke of luck!
Posted by: DanMan at April 22, 2020 01:53 PM (XTiHL)
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 01:23 PM (cF8AT)
Sadly, no. Term limits don't work. We have them in California. Does California strike you as a political nirvana? Termed out legislators merely propose sweetheart legislation - which inevitably passes - for some union or industry, then go to a sinecure funded by that union or industry. The legislator and the union/industry wins. Who loses? Duh. The taxpayer.
There's only one solution: an informed and engaged electorate.
Simple, mechanically applied solutions are just too easy to game.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 22, 2020 01:53 PM (YqDXo)
States Senate, or their spouses, children, or dependents may receive any
other than salaried income for the duration of their terms of office and for a period of not less than ten years following said term(s) of office.
That's better.
Posted by: Bert G, From an Undisclosed Location at April 22, 2020 01:53 PM (fIDYQ)
__________
"We tried to warn you." -- The Anti-Federalists
Posted by: ShainS at April 22, 2020 01:54 PM (y+3yF)
Posted by: J. Worthington "GOPe" Worthy at April 22, 2020 01:54 PM (DMUuz)
holding, everything they're attached to get published online with links,
references, and supporting info.
***
Because the FNM will only cover politicians they don't like. And they'll make shit up. And claim it is in the documents.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 01:54 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: French Jeton at April 22, 2020 01:55 PM (9Nrxu)
Posted by: brak at April 22, 2020 01:50 PM (cG+eD)
Then he will get an old cop car, tie a large speaker to the roof and drive the streets announcing his plans to hold a "rhythm and blues review."
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)
And the Chinese would lower their flag to half mast and mourn, too.
With a lot more cause than we would.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 22, 2020 01:55 PM (YqDXo)
At the same time embargo of Chinese goods and a permanent travel ban for Chinese nationals.
China can't buy politicians when we destroy their economy.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (WdocV)
I know we would never want to look back in history to see what happened in similar circumstances, but didn't we go to war with Japan after they attacked in retaliation for cutting off their oil and raw material supply?
Posted by: jwest at April 22, 2020 01:55 PM (mrrpT)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:56 PM (lwiT4)
My dad has been and still is terrified for Trump's life. Pray morons.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 22, 2020 01:56 PM (scPy1)
Posted by: hawkpilot at April 22, 2020 01:56 PM (luWin)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2020 01:56 PM (5bxa0)
So they do.
Everywhere, everybody. If there are people on the so-called right who think it's only happening on the left, they're deluding themselves.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2020 01:21 PM (hku12)
Yep, the ChiComs bought politicians on both sides. No other explanation of why Washington DC allowed jobs and intellectual property to be stolen for decades is possible.
Did anybody else catch President Trump's statement, "I even asked the Chinese how this happened" at yesterday's presser?
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (pJWtt)
First, it was to flatten the curve. Which meant giving the medical community time to make a plan so we would not be overwhelmed.
we have accomplished this.
Now, we are expected to never have another case or another death? And any spike in diagnoses is intolerable?
that is not possible.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (o2MD2)
First, it was to flatten the curve. Which meant giving the medical community time to make a plan so we would not be overwhelmed.
we have accomplished this.
Now, we are expected to never have another case or another death? And any spike in diagnoses is intolerable?
that is not possible.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (d7Ww2)
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Well, neither is controlling the climate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 01:48 PM (o2MD2)
Karen's.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (lwiT4)
Poor fella. Imagine the stern talking to he got when he got home.
His shoulders stooped, stooping ever more. Hair falling out, eyesight getting worse. Chest muscles, gone. Rock t-shirts and albums from decades past, donated to charity.
And this weekend, off to Bed, Bath, and Beyond he goes. Oh, he also gets to go to Lowes, but only to look at planters and edging.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (hku12)
572
If this turns out to be the worlds largest "Girl who cried wolf" (See
what I did there...HAHA! I changed the genders!) situation then
"science" is really going to take one in the pooper in terms of respect
and trust. Looking at you Mr 18 month lock down Fauci,
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (bFRyf)
Now, we are expected to never have another case or another death? And any spike in diagnoses is intolerable?
that is not possible.
BINGO
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (8D42x)
If only there was some group or industry which could *report* on these deals, and *`investigate* our public officials to see what they are up to.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 01:58 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (d7Ww2)
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Well, neither is controlling the climate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (LvTSG)
This calls for a meeting of Jews!
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 01:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Our corrupt CIA has bought politicians, media and entire governments throughout the world for 60 years.
Posted by: jwest at April 22, 2020 01:58 PM (mrrpT)
Good on all of you people.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 01:58 PM (JUOKG)
that is not possible.
Don't worry, NR. As the economic toll begins to hit components of our betters, the narrative will change. It will change this very week.
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 01:58 PM (Boy/L)
One of the single biggest problems we've had for a while is that the same people control the Democrats and most of the Republicans.
It all started with Hastert - remember the FNM destroyed Newt and Newt's chosen successor?
And Hastert....well a few reporters have since admitted to knowing what he was doing but, well, for various reasons they never actually reported on it. You'll also note Hastert did NOTHING with a Republican majority.
And when Hastert wasn't useful anymore suddenly the knives came out for him....but by that point the Republicans were a neutered party offering no alternative to the left.....just slower.
Hell 2012 was the nadir of this. With the public revolting over Obamacare the Republicans nominated the architect of Obamacare v0!
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 01:59 PM (WdocV)
that is not possible.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (d7Ww2)
It's like 'Global War on Terror'.
When is it over? Weeeeelllllll... At some point. Probably. We'll let you know. Now take your shoes and belt off because SECURITY, citizen-unit.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 01:59 PM (BAsqb)
....
April 21 (UPI) -- The U.S. Navy said Tuesday the amphibious assault ship USS America and two other vessels are operating in the South China Sea near a standoff between China and Malaysia.
The Navy said in a Twitter message that the America and guided-missile destroyers USS Bunker Hill and USS Barry were traveling to the South China Sea "in support of security and stability in the Indo-Pacific region" with the hashtag "Free and open Indo Pacific."
Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2020 01:59 PM (XnG/+)
*a single tear runs down my cheek*
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 22, 2020 01:59 PM (Z4rgH)
She responded "I was in here first, shut the fuck up and stop being a dickhead!" And this is pretty close to what I remember her telling me.
She was upset and hates shopping now because everyone is crazy.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 22, 2020 01:59 PM (scPy1)
It is certain that the only thing those seven people that day was go to vote. How do they pinpoint infection time
and place so precisely?
Posted by: French Jeton at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (
You can't it's all lies.
Posted by: PINOCHET at April 22, 2020 01:59 PM (sQq+E)
Same thing with teachers. Kids are functionally illiterate, and God knows innumerate? Only one solution: pay teachers more!
The obvious implication: teachers are resting on the oars, and could do better, but only if they were paid more.
Oh, really? Then fire them and replace them with people who WILL do their jobs at the current pay (which is very good, actually, at least here in California, which has appalling academic results). People FIGHT to get K-12 teaching jobs here because of the pay and benefits.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM (kX3ms)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 01:58 PM (JUOKG)
My husband is literally jaw-on-the-floor baffled. He says he never knew that people we've ever met (in meat world) could be so kind. You guys really touched his heart. Bigly.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM (lwiT4)
it's one of the main reasons people go into politics
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM (iTXRQ)
First, it was to flatten the curve. Which meant giving the medical community time to make a plan so we would not be overwhelmed.
we have accomplished this.
Now, we are expected to never have another case or another death? And any spike in diagnoses is intolerable?
that is not possible.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (d7Ww2)
===========
Well, neither is controlling the climate.
=====
Had our weekly team conference call this morning.
Was told that:
1. Our organization is going to maintain this work-at-home for special people and all other bullshit they are putting us through, like masking when not in your area for 18 MONTHS.
2. There is no treatment for CV.
3. Need to wait for vaccine.
I was literally screaming (with my phone on mute) WHAT IF THERE IS NEVER A FUCKING VACCINE????
This is a fucking nightmare.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 22, 2020 02:01 PM (vg8iE)
********
UPMC says feared coronavirus surge 'simply hasn't happened,' will resume elective surgeries
*******
Wolf & Tranny hardest hit
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 22, 2020 02:01 PM (DifVR)
Posted by: Katy Tur at April 22, 2020 02:01 PM (sWM8x)
that is not possible.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (d7Ww2)
Only until "Vote By Mail" ensures a Demoncrat President.
Then they can end the lockdowns.
Posted by: Allie at April 22, 2020 02:01 PM (vmRc0)
*a single tear runs down my cheek*
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 22, 2020 01:59 PM (Z4rgH)
Her billionaire hubby also profited very handsomely indeed from HIGH. SPEED. RAIL., a boondoggle in which he had his snout immersed, IIRC, and which Feinstein fervently supported. For obvious reasons.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 22, 2020 02:01 PM (YqDXo)
I read too many spy novels cause I think the gov is shot though with infiltrators.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 22, 2020 02:01 PM (bFRyf)
Simple, mechanically applied solutions are just too easy to game.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 22, 2020 01:53 PM (YqDXo)
This is germane to the mail-in ballot debate as well.
If everyone can get off their duffs and stand in line - in the middle of a 'pandemic' - for TP, they can show up to vote, for goodness sakes.
Too many opportunities to game the system any other way.
The only positive thing that I can say about the current ballot debate, is that internet voting is off the table for now, post-Iowa caucus.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 22, 2020 02:02 PM (iuFgi)
in similar circumstances, but didn't we go to war with Japan after they
attacked in retaliation for cutting off their oil and raw material
supply?
***
They might. But the US navy/air force can destroy China's industrial heartland with ease and send them back to the 70s. Without using nukes.
China can invade South Korea if they want I suppose, but ultimately....so what?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:02 PM (WdocV)
So that means not government areas, no streets, no parks...
Well Hell. How else we gonna revolute???
Posted by: Diogenes at April 22, 2020 02:02 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at April 22, 2020 02:02 PM (F6tBH)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 01:58 PM (JUOKG)
My
husband is literally jaw-on-the-floor baffled. He says he never knew
that people we've ever met (in meat world) could be so kind. You guys
really touched his heart. Bigly.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM
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I think there is a ready sermon from this.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 01:57 PM (o2MD2)
Just tune out, man.
But it'll be all over cable... Turn cable off.
But it'll be all over the blogs... Go play with your kids or read a book.
But the MSM will... What, they got a gun to your head? Skip over it. They were human sewage yesterday, they are today and they will be tomorrow.
None of these people would piss on me if I was on fire in life, so I feel free to totally ignore their passing and its aftermath.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (BAsqb)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (kX3ms)
***
We have a flu vaccine. It kind of works. And we still have 30-80K flu deaths a year.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: catman at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (4HMlb)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (JUOKG)
I think you're right.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 22, 2020 01:51 PM (Sg/64)
What if we increased the size of government to 40% of GDP?
Add in healthcare for another 20%
Stimulus for the rest, and we are protected from socialism, for sure!
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (LWu6U)
Well, they can launch a shitload of nukes in retaliation so they've got that going for them.
Posted by: I Have Questions at April 22, 2020 02:04 PM (+v+zN)
Posted by: catman at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (4HMlb)
==========
Overturn Chevron and the New Deal.
And a pony.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 02:04 PM (LvTSG)
Wouldn't that drag us into it? Put up or shut up time.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 22, 2020 02:04 PM (scPy1)
wife's stepfather) blind and suffering from a head stroke. Its been
quite a ride form her.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (kX3ms)
Oh no! I will pray
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:04 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 22, 2020 01:59 PM (scPy1)
Very early morning people are more rational.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2020 02:05 PM (XnG/+)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 22, 2020 01:27 PM
I would sign up for all kinds of unnatural acts with her to make that happen.
Posted by: clutch at April 22, 2020 02:05 PM (9UmRs)
She responded "I was in here first, shut the fuck up and stop being a dickhead!" And this is pretty close to what I remember her telling me.
She was upset and hates shopping now because everyone is crazy.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 22, 2020 01:59 PM (scPy1)
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Something similar happened here. A mother was taking a walk with her 13 y.o. daughter, and a guy on a golf cart yelled "Six feet!" at them.
Of course the Karens on Nextdoor defended him because of "these frightening times we're living in!"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2020 02:05 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM (lwiT4)
I assume not literally literally. Or did you tell him to stop laying on the carpet?
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 02:05 PM (BAsqb)
Now playing ...Venus....by Shocking Blue.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 22, 2020 02:05 PM (DcsjI)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (DY3v8)
I find it interesting that states are starting to open up and their stats magically look better right about the time people are not tolerating it anymore.
Yes I have a tin foil hat, a big beautiful one, really one that's never before been seen, perfect.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (r+sAi)
My husband is literally jaw-on-the-floor baffled. He says he never knew that people we've ever met (in meat world) could be so kind. You guys really touched his heart. Bigly.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM (lwiT4)
I saw Meat World open for GWAR at Poplar Creek in '97.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (Zz0t1)
I had an old plan of chopping off a nut of anyone who passed the bar, and another if they ran for federal office.
But that wouldn't solve the feinstein problem. Or TFG. Or hillary.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (LWu6U)
***
China's nuclear arsenal isn't as effective as ours. I'm pretty sure the Chinese leadership would not want to go down that route.
Though as they've hit us with a bio-weapon American policy is officially that all weapon types are on the table.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (WdocV)
Of course the Karens on Nextdoor defended him because of "these frightening times we're living in!"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2020 02:05 PM (ptqGC)
She should have yelled back, "I heard three inches!"
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (BAsqb)
Here is the deal with that. People who don't care enough to go down and vote aren't going to go to the trouble to fill out a paper ballot, put it in an envelope, apply postage and walk out to the mailbox with it. This is common sense to even brain dead leftards.
Therefore it has only one viable function: to facilitate fraud. Therefore anyone who supports the idea, regardless of party, is supporting fraud, and any other reasoning is a lie.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (o2MD2)
It was before 10 am. She did make me laugh when she said "He was old as hell too. I know that bastard was up at 5, he should have been here right when the store opened!"
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (scPy1)
it's one of the main reasons people go into politics
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM
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Most, but not all go into politics for power, control and to gain wealth.
There are a few like Paul and some others who gave up a $hit ton of money to get into politics and he does not care one whit about power, just voting the way he feels, but they are the exception.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: ... at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (uEbPt)
One months since state-wide "lockdown" stuff started.
Cascade has begun and will sweep away most of the frivolous/indefensible stuff pretty quickly.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: x at April 22, 2020 02:07 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Case at April 22, 2020 02:07 PM (R4yL4)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 22, 2020 02:02 PM (axyOa)
First Amendment, shmerst amendment.
I don't see what that has to do with anything.
No but seriously, if you're keeping score, check your cards. The only one of the Bill of Rights that are left untouched would be Three.
If you still have Three on your card, come get your winnings (which we'll tax at 70%).
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2020 02:07 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 02:05 PM (BAsqb)
Well, if he spends too much time on the carpet, his knees lock up and he gets stuck down there. I'll pry him up. After lunch or so.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:07 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (LWu6U)
2 kV DC?
DC for people in DC. I like it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 22, 2020 02:07 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: ... at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (uEbPt)
==========
I thought it had been largely covered that he had cribbed it from someone else. I can't remember the details because I don't really care.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 02:07 PM (LvTSG)
This is becoming unbelievable. Trump is going to have get real at some point. We're at war. We just can't keep pretending that we can "work" with these people to save this country. They want it wrecked.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 22, 2020 02:07 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at April 22, 2020 02:07 PM (a4EWo)
And the Chinese would lower their flag to half mast and mourn, too.
With a lot more cause than we would.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 22, 2020 01:55 PM
***
Naaa. When your Intel Bureau is as successful as they were with Fifi, you know they have more assets elsewhere. Hard at work.
No mourn China. We go now!
Posted by: Diogenes at April 22, 2020 02:07 PM (axyOa)
When I lost my first husband, I had a blogger send me funds to get me through. I've never met her, but she asked me to just pay it forward. You can do the same, when you get back on your feet. There are a lot of wonderful people in this world that we never hear about.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (aKsyK)
wife's stepfather) blind and suffering from a head stroke. Its been
quite a ride form her.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (kX3ms)
Oh no! I will pray
------------------
Thank you Grammie. My MIL is a scrappy Italian Catholic with a fatalistic streak. She could use some good Protestant prayers.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (kX3ms)
and make it VERY Public. EVERY line item, every transaction, every holding, everything they're attached to get published online with links, references, and supporting info.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 01:41 PM (8D42x)
So you get to look into my private life because of what my sister does? Fuck you. Die of cancer.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 22, 2020 01:49 PM (SgjGX)
had it. luckily i survived by the grace of god, so i'll pass.
but the point is, we don't want another hunter biden situation going on. so maybe you only get a private audit while she's in office. and if there's anything funny then the world gets to see. idk.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (8D42x)
What is the link?
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (5bxa0)
Here is the deal with that. People who don't care enough to go down and vote aren't going to go to the trouble to fill out a paper ballot, put it in an envelope, apply postage and walk out to the mailbox with it. This is common sense to even brain dead leftards.
Therefore it has only one viable function: to facilitate fraud. Therefore anyone who supports the idea, regardless of party, is supporting fraud, and any other reasoning is a lie.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (o2MD2)
I think you have a point. Just take a look at response rates for the 2020 Census.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (iuFgi)
WE have a shitload. They do not.
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (Boy/L)
Wouldn't that drag us into it? Put up or shut up time.
***
The presumption on my part is that we would already be in a war with China and they would open a second front in South Korea after we sank their navy and started level bombing their cities (and we better f*cking handle any conflict with China like we did WWII).
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM (YqDXo)
I'm all for teachers making six figures.
However, I believe the entire public school system should be scrapped.
Someone, somewhere in the past had the non-so-brilliant idea that teaching is something that can be learned, like becoming an electrician.
Since the dawn of time, teaching was a recognized talent, like the ability to sing. You either had it or you didn't. Nobody sat on a rock bench in ancient Rome to listen to someone who didn't have the ability to connect and transfer knowledge effectively.
Start with the cities. Bulldoze all existing schools, disband all administrations and just give the parent a full value voucher. Let that parent keep the money if they home school. The only thing we, as taxpayers, ask is that the kid pass a test each year to show the money isn't being wasted. If the kid can't pass, someone from the state spends the money for the kid.
Let the free market work it's magic with teachers selling their services to parents. Those that can teach will grow rich while those who can't will starve.
This is how it should be.
Posted by: jwest at April 22, 2020 02:09 PM (mrrpT)
That would make sense. It's hard to imagine that Goldberg would like the current version of himself.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 22, 2020 02:09 PM (scPy1)
Posted by: ... at April 22, 2020 02:09 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: The Shape of Vodka at April 22, 2020 02:09 PM (2oYEN)
Posted by: jwest at April 22, 2020 01:52 PM (mrrpT)
well, now that's just crazy talk...
it would be lovely but without some sort of punishment for the press as well, i don't see how you get away from the current D good, R bad.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 02:09 PM (8D42x)
China can invade South Korea if they want I suppose, but ultimately....so what?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:02 PM (WdocV)
I have no love for China, but miscalculation is the hallmark of the beginnings of great wars. If we moved to attack mainland China in any way, they'll use their missile capacity (which even our military has acknowledged they have) to take out our active carrier groups with nukes. (Satellite targeting with long range ballistic missiles) We don't have a defense against that.
So, the next question would be, after they stage nuclear attacks on our carriers, what level of nuclear response do we make? I would point out that the hard logic of first strikes is that you have to Go Big. Use it or Lose it, if you're going to light up the missiles, light them ALL up at once.
and of course China will be making the same calculation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:09 PM (V2Yro)
The Chicoms, thanks to Wen Ho Lee and friends during the Clinton administration, walked off with the secrets of our W88 warheads. These are the crown jewels of our nuclear secrets, non-spherical primaries (a feat of untold scientific, engineering, and mathematical prowess), which allowed more megatonnage to fit into conical MIRV reentry vehicles.
Whether they've reacreated them or not, I don't know, but they got the plans.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (f1Vqw)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 22, 2020 02:06 PM (r+sAi)
Houston has decided that we need to wear mask in public for the next 30 days....
Fuck them
Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (P4Pk9)
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (Boy/L)
And all of theirs are made in China
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (BAsqb)
And more bad news. A new poll of sports fans shows nearly 40% think all seasons should be cancelled until next year and even then many won't ever feel safe going back.
Life will never be the same.
Posted by: bumblebee at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (lrCrE)
Here is the deal with that. People who don't care enough to go down and vote aren't going to go to the trouble to fill out a paper ballot, put it in an envelope, apply postage and walk out to the mailbox with it. This is common sense to even brain dead leftards.
Yep. And even if recipients of mail-in ballots actually did vote, if they can't be bothered to go vote, what is the likelihood that they took the trouble to inform themselves on the issues/candidates? Zero? Maybe not that high?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (YqDXo)
That would make sense. It's hard to imagine that Goldberg would like the current version of himself.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 22, 2020 02:09 PM (scPy1)
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It's like how Joss Whedon actually hates the main character of Mal in Fireflay.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: CN at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (ONvIw)
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I'm pretty sure he got bought off some time after writing that book.
Remember too that Hillary wanted to Ft Marcy Park Jonah's mom, so that level of betrayal is pretty amazing.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (WdocV)
me funds to get me through. I've never met her, but she asked me to just
pay it forward. You can do the same, when you get back on your feet.
There are a lot of wonderful people in this world that we never hear
about.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (JKNZq)
Yes, there certainly are wonderful people out there. And here, in our little gray boxes. Such kindness is very humbling. Indeed, we will look for every opportunity to pay it forward.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (lwiT4)
Oh, he wrote it. He just didn't actually mean any of it.
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (Boy/L)
Here is the deal with that. People who don't care enough to go down and vote aren't going to go to the trouble to fill out a paper ballot, put it in an envelope, apply postage and walk out to the mailbox with it. This is common sense to even brain dead leftards.
Yep. And even if recipients of mail-in ballots actually did vote, if they can't be bothered to go vote, what is the likelihood that they took the trouble to inform themselves on the issues/candidates? Zero? Maybe not that high?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
So someone at the DNC will vote for them.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (7jTtI)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM (lwiT4)
Don't tell him none of these people are wearing pants....
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (cF8AT)
They even have jokes about American politicians being de facto vending machines.
They don't have any of those pesky principles to get in the way of making $.
Posted by: navybrat, in his coop at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Axeman at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (Eicbe)
says he never knew that people we've ever met (in meat world) could be
so kind. You guys really touched his heart. Bigly.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM
Heck, I'm a White Sox fan and I donated to a Cub fan's cause. It's the Christian thing to do.
Posted by: Cicero Skip at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (FIrEF)
...
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 22, 2020 01:59 PM
oh who'd she meet Ron Jeremy or zombie John Holmes?
Posted by: batterup at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (K4I9O)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (JKNZq)
So Trump is picking up Black and Hispanic votes but losing Seniors... Don't believe the Senior thing
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (5bxa0)
They really moved the goalposts on that one. No way anyone alive will remember that prediction.
Their models went from 2012 to 2050 for an ice free arctic. Hell of a spread.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: grammie winger
Grammie, how long will it stay up?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (7jTtI)
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (scPy1)
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (cF8AT)
I imagine he would find that quite.......amusing.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (lwiT4)
There is no good article in the NYT.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (XnG/+)
but the point is, we don't want another hunter biden situation going on. so maybe you only get a private audit while she's in office. and if there's anything funny then the world gets to see. idk.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 02:08 PM (8D42x)
Good for you.
I found his comment wildly un-required.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: navybrat, in his coop at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Tom ServoGen at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (V2Yro)
They really moved the goalposts on that one. No way anyone alive will remember that prediction.
Their models went from 2012 to 2050 for an ice free arctic. Hell of a spread.
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We'll all be dead of coronavirus anyway. I don't know why they are so concerned at this point.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (7jTtI)
I thought I would leave it up 24 hours. Do you think that's okay to do?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (lwiT4)
Fuck them
Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at April 22, 2020 02:10 PM (P4Pk9)
But not until Monday because that is when the sh!t gets real.
Posted by: batterup at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (K4I9O)
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Kelly Loeffler (R-Blond,Money) at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (HIAkX)
We'll all be dead of coronavirus anyway. I don't know why they are so concerned at this point.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (vg8iE)
I already died in WWIII with Iran in January.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (BAsqb)
Posted by: navybrat, in his coop at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (w7KSn)
Treasonous. Impeachable. Forgotten.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (H8QX8)
...
Posted by: thathalfrican
Only proper response:
"Fuck you buddy. I was here first!"
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (7jTtI)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: Cicero Skip at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (FIrEF)
I went to Kaminskey Field once. Once.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (WEBkv)
says he never knew that people we've ever met (in meat world) could be
so kind. You guys really touched his heart. Bigly.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:00 PM
Heck, I'm a White Sox fan and I donated to a Cub fan's cause. It's the Christian thing to do.
Posted by: Cicero Skip at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (FIrEF)
Hell, I'm a Cards fan and I donated! I really like her though.
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (cF8AT)
China isn't Iraq or Serbia where you can f*ck around with them, but it also simply doesn't have the resources the US does.
In 1941 Japan had a better navy then the US. In 2020 China simply does not.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Case at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (R4yL4)
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:11 PM (cF8AT)
Or any of the other stuff.
You know, "stuff."
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: grammie winger
Friday's payday. Go 48 hours.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:15 PM (7jTtI)
But Citizens United corrupted it again.
So it's all the Republicans fault
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at April 22, 2020 02:15 PM (vPKfA)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (lwiT4)
The old or the new one? The old one was a shithole.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 02:15 PM (BAsqb)
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 02:13 PM (Boy/L)
https://tinyurl.com/ybrgxxlz
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:15 PM (cF8AT)
Cool. I've been meaning to ask you if you knew when they were going to do that. I see a road trip in my future if that sweet, sweet stimulus check ever shows up.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at April 22, 2020 02:15 PM (qc+VF)
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (cF8AT)
One day soon, Tami. One day soon there will be baseball, and then everything will be better.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:16 PM (lwiT4)
...
Posted by: thathalfrican
I'm not sure that the guy wasn't mocking the social distancing bullshit.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:16 PM (o2MD2)
For a brief window in the Pacific. The Two Ocean Navy Act was already going to put them in the rear view and they knew it.
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 02:16 PM (Boy/L)
Is it common for foriegn heads of state (former or otherwise) to hang out at the homes of Congresspeople? I don't actually know, but it sounds really weird.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 22, 2020 02:16 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 02:15 PM (BAsqb)
Yeah then it was that one.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:16 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:14 PMThe old one had a lot of character, characters, and rats. Fun times.
Posted by: Cicero Skip at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (FIrEF)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (JUOKG)
LOL, all of us who've been watching them for years have been telling them they were gonna have to take a lesson from all the Great Apocalyptic Doomsayers of the past - you've GOT to date your Great Catastrophe outside of any date range that anyone can check up on. It's the only way to keep the scam going.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (V2Yro)
NEWSWEEK has Biden wining in the general election.
Should we just put him in the white house now and watch the whole coronavirus lockdowns melt away by Monday
ffs
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Darrell Harris
I'd like to concur. But failure to work hasn't stopped these people from trying to implement socialism. Remember, to them it didn't fail because it doesn't work. It failed because they didn't have the right people in charge.
Posted by: Turn Two at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (jPtGI)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (lwiT4)
The old or the new one? The old one was a shithole.
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 02:15 PM
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Went to the old one once when we got free tickets from MWR to go. That place was a dump in 1990.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:15 PM (7jTtI)
Okay rick. That makes sense. Thanks!
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (lwiT4)
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Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that.
In the mean time, enjoy a Tindr hook-up!
Posted by: Dr. Fauci, Supreme Ruler at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (vg8iE)
Remember the crap about Russian bots helping Trump?
Well Chicom bots were spreading panic about coronavirus all over social media, it turns out.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (f1Vqw)
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (UUBmN)
Much of "Liberal Fascism" was stolen from essays, articles and white papers from the Heritage Foundation and other places.
Johnah Golbergs' only original idea was cashing in on the celebrity of his mother.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (wcygf)
So Trump is picking up Black and Hispanic votes but losing Seniors... Don't believe the Senior thing
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (5bxa0)
The seniors I know that were for Trump, still are. The liberal ER physician I know loathes the additional restrictions put on him by hospital administrators and security, and called our Democratic CEO, "Governor Asshole."
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 22, 2020 02:19 PM (w+Ped)
Posted by: catman at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (4HMlb)
and no FVCKING PENSIONS!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 22, 2020 02:19 PM (Xt7n2)
could get by with only losing the major west coast cities, we could
actually come out of it in pretty good shape. Of course we'd get our
hair mussed, but we might only take 50 million casualties or so. 80
million, tops.
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Does that include illegal aliens?
Posted by: Methos at April 22, 2020 02:19 PM (kOpft)
weekend. You also need to up your goal...You can't live on that for more
than a week or two and who knows how long it will be before your church
is up to speed again.
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (UUBmN)
You can change your goal? Let me see if I can figure out how to do that. I don't want to appear greedy, though.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:19 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:15 PM (7jTtI)
Okay rick. That makes sense. Thanks!
It makes sense if you're paying in cash or check. Credit card, not so much.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:19 PM (o2MD2)
I always thought this should have been the name of something in a Sci-Fi movie. "All of our propulsion systems are based on manipulation of the Kaminskey Field."
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:19 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: catman at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (4HMlb)
and no FVCKING PENSIONS!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 22, 2020 02:19 PM (Xt7n2)
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That was actually a problem for John Adams. He couldn't really get an income after he left the presidency.
Of course, that was long before the speaking circuit was a thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 02:20 PM (LvTSG)
No. No it is not.
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 02:20 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:16 PM (lwiT4)
I hope so or my husband will be inconsolable.
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:20 PM (cF8AT)
For a brief window in the Pacific. The Two Ocean Navy Act was already going to put them in the rear view and they knew it.
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 02:16 PM
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Yamamoto told the Emperor exactly what was going to happen, but he didn't listen.
Turns out he was 100% correct that Japan would only have 6 months of free reign in the Pacific. After Midway is was one constant a$$ whipping for the Japanese Navy.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:20 PM (JUOKG)
million, tops.
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Presuming we throw NYC in with the CA coastal cities that alone is a win right?
Posted by: Obligatory at April 22, 2020 02:21 PM (WdocV)
you've been around long enough that we know you are NOT the least bit greedy.
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at April 22, 2020 02:21 PM (UUBmN)
Posted by: catman at April 22, 2020 02:03 PM (4HMlb)
and no FVCKING PENSIONS!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 22, 2020 02:19 PM (Xt7n2
You guys got a plan B?
Cause none of those things are happening.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at April 22, 2020 02:21 PM (sQq+E)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:19 PM (lwiT4)
Grammie,
Ask for what you think you will need to avoid having to ask again. That's not greed, it's reality.
Posted by: Lurking Virginia-class sub at April 22, 2020 02:21 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:14 PM (WdocV)
Having lived a number of years, I've found that every time you think you've got the world by the ass, something happens and you end up taking it in the ass.
Once we believe we could take on China and come out in relatively good shape, someone in Bejing flips a switch and all our satellites fall out of the sky.
Posted by: jwest at April 22, 2020 02:21 PM (mrrpT)
Posted by: Ian S. at April 22, 2020 02:16 PM (ZGrMX)
Former president of Mexico teaches at Harvard.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2020 02:21 PM (XnG/+)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:22 PM (o2MD2)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:22 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 22, 2020 02:22 PM (VjkWl)
Posted by: Matt Hoffman
Must be interesting at Sunday dinners at Lucianne's house. That is if he is invited
Posted by: Cheri at April 22, 2020 02:23 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Ladyl at April 22, 2020 02:23 PM (TdMsT)
Well, I'm a Rockies fan, so ......
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 22, 2020 02:23 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 22, 2020 02:19 PM (Xt7n2)
And no security clearance.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 02:23 PM (Zz0t1)
The hot war has already started. Chyna declared war on the entire world.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 02:23 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:24 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 22, 2020 02:24 PM (DifVR)
Move the elections forward into early September. This will get the
election out of the flu season. Because of the hysteria about the Second
Wave of Coronavirus, universal voting by mail will most likely happen
in time for the November election. Moving the election to right after
Labor Day will null out that whole Second Wave.
Posted by: The Shape of Vodka at April 22, 2020 02:09 PM (2oYEN)
It's the third wave that will gitcha... lockdown 26 months!!!!!
Posted by: The third wave at April 22, 2020 02:24 PM (bFRyf)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Cheri at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (oiNtH)
I have two old DVDs that could conceivable sell for over $100 each.
Eisenstein The Sound Years from the Criterion Collection
Frank Herbert's Dune, the Director's Cut
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: The third wave
We will be out of food in 18 months.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (7jTtI)
shape, someone in Bejing flips a switch and all our satellites fall out
of the sky.
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There is no option to 'taking on China.' They have already launched a WMD attack against us.
Posted by: Methos at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (kOpft)
Hope it helps a bit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 22, 2020 02:22 PM (VjkWl)
That is very kind of you, sir. I thank you.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: FloridaMan -- Convinced this has been overreaction at April 22, 2020 02:26 PM (R6LnX)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:26 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Ladyl at April 22, 2020 02:26 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (lwiT4)
The goal just changed.
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:26 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:24 PM (V2Yro)
You don't drop an Iranian general hoofing it out of Baghdad if you are "anti-war." Trump is just extraordinarily good at weighing stakes and managing the State and War Departments.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 22, 2020 02:26 PM (w+Ped)
Obama would just give them more cash.
Posted by: Cheri at April 22, 2020 02:26 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: CN at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: DNC MEDIA COMPLEX at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (sQq+E)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (lwiT4)
*********
Just Hate To See IT
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 22, 2020 02:24 PM (DifVR)
The people don't deserve that.
Their leaders, on the other hand.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Vanya at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (BAsqb)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (lwiT4)
How would the FNM treat it? Well....why aren't they treating Feinstein the same way?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (WdocV)
Turns out he was 100% correct that Japan would only have 6 months of free reign in the Pacific. After Midway is was one constant a$$ whipping for the Japanese Navy.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:20 PM (JUOKG)
VDH has said this is BS in his book "The second world ward."
I have not read it, but he said Yamamoto was all in. He wanted to go to war with US. VDH has very low opinion of Yamamoto. I think he is right. Says that line about 6months is BS. They all thought the US would not fight.
(I used to live down the street from his childhood home in Nagaoka. They tore it down a few years ago.)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (o2MD2)
When you're riding the gravy train, you don't vote for stopping the gravy train.
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (iTXRQ)
It's the third wave that will gitcha... lockdown 26 months!!!!!
Posted by: The third wave
We will be out of food in 18 months.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (7jTtI)
Stick with the established progression: 28 Days, 28 Weeks, 28 Months
Posted by: Rage Virus at April 22, 2020 02:28 PM (q1Pj5)
Sure you are.
Read Sun Tzu.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:28 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Winston at April 22, 2020 02:28 PM (RyWXu)
Posted by: Case at April 22, 2020 02:28 PM (R4yL4)
Posted by: jwest at April 22, 2020 02:21 PM (mrrpT)
In August, 1914, all the sides thought they would have a quick, easy little war that would be over by Christmas. Same thing here in 1861. Same thing with Athens and Sparta 2500 years ago.
Wars between Great Powers are never quick, are never easy, and never end up the way anyone who starts them think they will end up.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:28 PM (V2Yro)
When you're riding the gravy train, you don't vote for stopping the gravy train.
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (iTXRQ)
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The states can amend the constitution without any say from Congress.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 02:28 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:26 PM (cF8AT)
I kicked the tires.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (lwiT4)
LOL! I think you're going to have to kick 'em again.
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (cF8AT)
You people. Damn.
Posted by: Circa
It's kinda like watching the Jerry Lewis Labor Day Telethon when I was little. Go! Go! Go!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (7jTtI)
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Yep. And as Trump isn't a "Bomb Bomb Iran" type of guy, I think he can, and should, start with economic war.
The US has already spent around $4T on the Wuhan Flu. Time to collect.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (WdocV)
Exactly.
Posted by: Cheri at April 22, 2020 02:25 PM (oiNtH)
Term limits would be a boon to party apparatchiks and political elite, be careful what you wish for. If you think lobbying is bad now...
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (w+Ped)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:28 PM (V2Yro)
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I see SOMEONE hasn't heard of the Civil War.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (DifVR)
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (sQq+E)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)
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... deserve a platoon of randy otters.
Posted by: Axeman at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (Eicbe)
LOLGF
I mean,
"Oh whatever shall we do? All is lost, woe is us. I suppose we should just give up and not vote. Thank you for making us aware of this very concerning conservative concern that you as a concerned conservative have shared with us."
Posted by: Bert G, From an Undisclosed Location at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (fIDYQ)
up the way anyone who starts them think they will end up.
***
Hey guys, remember me?
Posted by: The Franco-Prussian war at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (WdocV)
Will do my part to help our dear grammie.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (Boy/L)
Grammie that goal just got passed too !!! Hooray!!!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (Xt7n2)
Posted by: ... at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (b+qEC)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:28 PM (Boy/L)
Sun Tzu got his ass kicked.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (w+Ped)
Posted by: Axeman at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (Eicbe)
After we're finished with DiFi!
Posted by: Randy otters at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (ONvIw)
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Does anyone actually subscribe to Newsweek? Same deal with Time? Cereally.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (kX3ms)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
what
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (iTXRQ)
And the Chinese would lower their flag to half mast and mourn, too.
With a lot more cause than we would.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 22, 2020 01:55 PM
She could lower anyones flag to half staff, probably cause a turtle up
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (UUBmN)
Posted by: Puddin Head
dentists
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (XnG/+)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (VjkWl)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (o2MD2)
On another note my wife was at the store in an aisle by herself. Some guy came into the aisle and screamed at her "6 feet!"
...
Hare Lip!
Posted by: Wood eye at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (7jTtI)
Posted by: Stu-22 at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (kZT36)
Posted by: Axeman at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (Eicbe)
Selective Science. Catch the Fever!!!
Posted by: ... at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (b+qEC)
I fear we no longer have the ability to deter them via conventional military force.
Posted by: El Jefe at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (Ae67h)
Sure you are.
Read Sun Tzu.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:28 PM (Boy/L)
Exactly! That move *Stopped* a war, it didn't start one! That's why foolish leaders blunder into wars, while wise ones know how to take the small, critical steps that avoid them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:32 PM (V2Yro)
Grammie that goal just got passed too !!! Hooray!!!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (Xt7n2)
Oh dear. I'm going to have to scrape Rev off the floor again.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:32 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: JEF at April 22, 2020 02:32 PM (Vy7tf)
I always find it hilarious that some people think we don't have switches or our own.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:32 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at April 22, 2020 02:32 PM (UUBmN)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:28 PM (V2Yro)
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I see SOMEONE hasn't heard of the Civil War.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (LvTSG)
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Avengers assemble!
Posted by: cornbred at April 22, 2020 02:32 PM (A751K)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (7jTtI)
IKR?! I keep rooting!! I'm so proud of my Horde family
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 22, 2020 02:32 PM (Xt7n2)
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I swear to God your honor he was coming right at me, dribbling wuhan flu out of his infected nose saying he was going to put me 6 feet under when I emptied my clip in him.
Posted by: Obligatory at April 22, 2020 02:33 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: ... at April 22, 2020 02:33 PM (b+qEC)
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It will be a long drawn out trade war. Xi knows this. Awful hard to land cheap Chinese goods on our shores with expensive tariffs. Trump has already brought Modi into the fold. So its China against the world. Sucks to be China.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:33 PM (kX3ms)
Posted by: DNC MEDIA COMPLEX at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM (sQq+E)
Or until all productive, patriotic, free-thinking Americans are unemployed, destitute, devoid of all prospects and dependent on the government.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 22, 2020 02:33 PM (H8QX8)
Short answer: They know they can't do it or they would have.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:33 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (7jTtI)
You guys. Seriously, you guys are so, so kind. Now you've got me crying. I'm crying. Rev's jaw is on the floor. We're a mess.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:33 PM (lwiT4)
I found his comment wildly un-required.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 22, 2020 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)
Thanks Sponge.
i didn't want to seem a dick about it, as we're all gray box family, but sometimes we need to relax on how we interact here.
that said, i know it was an extreme suggestion. i didn't think it'd be popular.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 02:34 PM (8D42x)
NEWSWEEK has Biden wining in the general election.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (d7Ww2)
You realize that NEWSWEEK is just some guy in his parent's basement now?
Posted by: jwest at April 22, 2020 02:34 PM (mrrpT)
Re the hacking of the Wuhan lab -- the hackers have been downloading everything they can. I see some are claiming they're seeing stuff about splicing HIV genes into coronavirus.
That is what that Frog Noble Laureate who said it was obvious to him that the Wuhan virus was being played with. He speculated they were trying to make an HIV vaccine, and were splicing HIV sequences into this coronavirus for purposes related to that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 22, 2020 02:34 PM (f1Vqw)
Posted by: Puddin Head
dentists
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (iTXRQ)
Libraries.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 22, 2020 02:34 PM (Vy7tf)
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The whole ban on assassinations we had boggled my mind.
Why is it beyond the pale to kill one politicial/military leader for strategic reasons, but not to launch a war that kills millions on both sides.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:33 PM (lwiT4)
You need pie...go get some pie.
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Puddin Head
They are like CNN, if it weren't for medical offices, airports, or hotels they wouldn't exist.
Posted by: Cheri at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (oiNtH)
million, tops.
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Presuming we throw NYC in with the CA coastal cities that alone is a win right?
Posted by: Obligatory at April 22, 2020 02:21 PM (WdocV)
what if we promise to nuke NYC, after evacuating Morons, in solidarity?
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (8D42x)
I fear we no longer have the ability to deter them via conventional military force.
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Easier to do than Hong Kong. We have a Navy. So does Japan. South Korea sort of.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (kX3ms)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (JUOKG)
I saw my first live MLB game at Kaminsky field in the 50s. The new place has an upper deck so steep you feel like you would fall down over your feet.
Posted by: FloridaMan -- Convinced this has been overreaction at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (R6LnX)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (7jTtI)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (o2MD2)
Are all neverTrumpers twits?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2020 02:17 PM (d7Ww2)
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It's a good thing we don't run our elections in Newsweak.
Posted by: Axeman at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
what
Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 22, 2020 02:30 PM (iTXRQ)
Article V Convention. although - I think, when it happens, and it will happen someday (although probably not in our lifetimes), that will actually bring about the breakup of the country, with different areas deciding on different constitutions.
Texas and California, for example, would never ever agree on what kind of Constitution to live under, if they were asked to come up with something new. Whichever block wins the Article V Convention battle, the other side leaves the country and starts their own.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (Do5/p)
Turns out he was 100% correct that Japan would only have 6 months of free reign in the Pacific. After Midway is was one constant a$$ whipping for the Japanese Navy.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:20 PM (JUOKG)
I watched a short documentary on the targeted assassination of Yamamoto . Coolest thing about it besides being a success was the squadron of P38s used to do it. My favorite all time plane.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (EV+4+)
Turns out he was 100% correct that Japan would only have 6 months of
free reign in the Pacific. After Midway is was one constant a$$
whipping for the Japanese Navy.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:20 PM (JUOKG)
VDH has said this is BS in his book "The second world ward."
I have not read it, but he said Yamamoto was all in. He wanted to go
to war with US. VDH has very low opinion of Yamamoto. I think he is
right. Says that line about 6months is BS. They all thought the US would
not fight.
(I used to live down the street from his childhood home in Nagaoka. They tore it down a few years ago.)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 22, 2020 02:27 PM
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Haven't read his stuff but he is literally one against hundreds that say Yamamato didn't want to fight the US.
Granted, Japan literally had no choice to not go to war after we turned their oil off, but they did not have to go to war with us, they could have kept it local and just beat up on the Dutch.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (JUOKG)
They're one step away from the T-Virus.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (8msR+)
Don't tell him none of these people are wearing pants....
Posted by: Tami
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or that some are...(whispers)...Methodists !
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (830x5)
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (cF8AT)
Oh! There's one piece left! Ima go grab it....
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:31 PM (o2MD2)
Prove he won one.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (w+Ped)
Not before or after Pearl Harbor. Midway was 6 months later. Japan knew they fucked up when that battered Navy showed up there. I would say the US Navy was better before Pearl Harbor and Midway proved they were still better after.
That slog through the South Pacific while a formidable force was still tearing into Normandy showed who had the best Navy as well.
Posted by: DanMan at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (XTiHL)
LOLGF. According to the hackers, 40% of the WHO accounts they hacked had "password" as their password.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (f1Vqw)
******
Yep Death by a Billion Papercuts
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (DifVR)
Posted by: Axeman at April 22, 2020 02:37 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Puddin Head
They are like CNN, if it weren't for medical offices, airports, or hotels they wouldn't exist.
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They should go the route of LIFE and LOOK and mine their photo library and issue reissues of the Beatles and Kennedy Family retrospectives. Why they haven't done an LBJ retrospective is beyond me.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:37 PM (kX3ms)
Lets get past the virus thing. We are wasting our time with this.
Obumbles has stated that climate change will be far worse.
Welllll...shhiiittt. That's pretty much seals it.
Guess I'll go out and break into my favorite bar (that's been closed for a month now and will probably never reopen) and drink the last of the German bier they have on tap.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 22, 2020 02:37 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (o2MD2)
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This.
Posted by: SMH at April 22, 2020 02:37 PM (RU4sa)
Why is it beyond the pale to kill one politicial/military leader for strategic reasons, but not to launch a war that kills millions on both sides.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (WdocV)
Squeamishness. The news upsets the Nice People at their breakfasts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:38 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (w+Ped)
Prove he didn't.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:38 PM (o2MD2)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:33 PM (lwiT4)
**********
The Horde is Special in a lot of ways
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 22, 2020 02:38 PM (DifVR)
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (cF8AT)
Oh! There's one piece left! Ima go grab it....
Posted by: grammie winger at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (lwiT4)
*grammie hurdles over the Rev on the floor*
Posted by: Tami at April 22, 2020 02:38 PM (cF8AT)
I'm kind of confused here. I would be happy to donate something to a fellow clergy person in need and his wife (Rev Winger) but the link in your name is for your daughter's mission, which is very, very worthwhile thing obviously, but I'd rather the money go to you right now. Also, I'd prefer to send a money order or check, unless you'd really prefer it go through Hosea's Heart Can you send me your address to FenelonDirection18 at sign gmail.com
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 22, 2020 02:39 PM (bW1Yb)
Excuse me, not 40% but about 40 accounts at the WHO had "password" as the password. Others used easy to guess things like their first names and others.
Hacking the WHO was child's play.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 22, 2020 02:39 PM (f1Vqw)
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Not really. They had four aircraft carriers (which were sunk 6 months after Pearl) and one battleship. They did us a favor hammering our battleships and freeing up sailors for other ships.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:39 PM (kX3ms)
Posted by: SMH at April 22, 2020 02:40 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 22, 2020 02:36 PM (w+Ped)
Prove he didn't.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:38 PM (o2MD2)
Doesn't sound like that great a general based on that response.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 22, 2020 02:42 PM (w+Ped)
everything they can. I see some are claiming they're seeing stuff about
splicing HIV genes into coronavirus.
That is what that Frog Noble Laureate who said it was obvious to
him that the Wuhan virus was being played with. He speculated they were
trying to make an HIV vaccine, and were splicing HIV sequences into this
coronavirus for purposes related to that.
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That's a charitable interpretation. I'm not sure it meshes with their efforts to cover it up early on, to the point of destroying sampes that their own people had taken.
Posted by: Methos at April 22, 2020 02:43 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 22, 2020 02:43 PM (EV+4+)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:44 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 22, 2020 02:45 PM (bW1Yb)
well, you and the Civil War caused WWII
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 22, 2020 02:46 PM (8D42x)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (kX3ms)
Well, yeah, we aren't stopping them from doing anything they want to do in Hong Kong. That is all theirs.
We do have a navy, but I doubt Japan or South Korea are going to use any sort of military force to keep China from retaking Taiwan.
Posted by: El Jefe at April 22, 2020 02:47 PM (Ae67h)
This is not accurate.
6 fleet carriers (Hosho, Ryujo, Akagi, Kaga, Soryu, and Hiryu). The first was sunk at Coral Sea, the last four at Midway.
10 battleships with three Yamatos building. One of those became the Shinano, which sailed out of port for the first time and a US submarine sank her 45 minutes later.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:48 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:44 PM (V2Yro)
+++++++++++++
Like Halsey taking damn near the entirety of Third Fleet up toward Formosa to go after empty enemy capital ships and leaving Leyte Gulf effectively unguarded other than a couple of escort carrier task forces who fought like tigers and made the Japanese blink?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2020 02:49 PM (hYcqw)
Japan will be right there and any Chinese move on Taiwan likely results in a nuclear Japan.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:50 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: dartist at April 22, 2020 02:50 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: 18-1 at April 22, 2020 02:35 PM (WdocV)
******
It isn't, but leaders don't want the risk of assassination on their heads.
They will risk millions of their own people in a war, but out of pure, naked personal self interest, don't want to run the risk of they themselves getting assassinated.
Posted by: El Jefe at April 22, 2020 02:51 PM (Ae67h)
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 22, 2020 02:42 PM (w+Ped)
The reason no one want's to take the bait of "proof" is that, as with anyone who may or may not have lived 2500 years ago, actual "proof" of their existence or their deeds is always hard to pin down. But almost every scholar agrees that his book has been around a long time and was written by someone with a keen understanding of military strategy. Whether that was one author, or two separate authors who were later combined, we can't "prove". So we go with the long accepted judgment that there was a General of the State of Wu who lived and fought about 2500 years ago, during the period of the Warring States, and he left behind a remarkable piece of writing. And also that the State of Wu was able to maintain its strength and independence during his life and well after his death, until the State of Qin (Chin) finally absorbed all other competitors.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 02:51 PM (V2Yro)
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Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This
So you've ruled out voting and war. We're already imposing sanctions and tariffs.
I guess that leaves self-immolation or just lay there like a log.
Or go make a sammich.
Posted by: Kelly Loeffler (R-Blond,Money) at April 22, 2020 02:52 PM (HIAkX)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 22, 2020 02:53 PM (HIAkX)
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at April 22, 2020 02:42 PM (w+Ped
Records from 3000 years ago in China are spotty. But since Every military institute in the world teaches from his book I would call that pretty good reference. That includes West Point and War College.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 22, 2020 02:54 PM (o2MD2)
Japan will be right there and any Chinese move on Taiwan likely results in a nuclear Japan.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2020 02:50 PM (Boy/L)
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Yeah, China would hate Japan to have nuclear weapons. Personally, I think it is inevitable at this point, and it is probably baked into the cake.
Japan going nuclear means that China would *probably* have to give up on Okinawa.
Posted by: El Jefe at April 22, 2020 02:57 PM (Ae67h)
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Not really. They had four aircraft carriers (which were sunk 6 months after Pearl) and one battleship. They did us a favor hammering our battleships and freeing up sailors for other ships.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:39 PM (kX3ms)
They did hit us pretty hard in the early part of the war. At one point, Enterprise was the only operational US fleet carrier in the Pacific theater. Once the Essex-class started leaving the yards, it was all over for them. They simply couldn't match our production, and we built a lot of them with amazing speed.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at April 22, 2020 02:59 PM (O4K4J)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 22, 2020 03:01 PM (4BMGG)
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at April 22, 2020 02:29 PM (sQq+E)
Don't be so fast to take the option of the table. We wouldn't need to invade, all we'd have to do is sink their pathetic navy, which is something the combined forces the US and Japan could handle in about a week, and then just lock down their ports until they cry uncle.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at April 22, 2020 03:05 PM (O4K4J)
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Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This
So you've ruled out voting and war. We're already imposing sanctions and tariffs.
I guess that leaves self-immolation or just lay there like a log.
Or go make a sammich.
Posted by: Kelly Loeffler (R-Blond,Money) at April 22, 2020 02:52 PM (HIAkX)
Sometimes there are no good options. That doesn't turn Suicide into a good option.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2020 03:09 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2020 02:39 PM (kX3ms)
Pure wrong. Goggle it !
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Posted by: guinspen at April 22, 2020 04:21 PM (E/NkT)
Maybe if we just pull the blinds, draw the drapes, kill the lights and sit real still, they'll go away.
Problem solved!
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Please let let me know if you have information.
Best to you all.
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What the hell were we thinking?
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My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)