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Government: Ain't It Grand! Authoritarian And Incompetent
This is heartening news...pushing back against the jack-booted, religion-hating thugs in government is always a good thing, especially when it sounds like the restrictions placed on religion are capricious. And by "capricious" I mean viciously anti-religion, pro-progressive, and antithetical to everything this country stands for.
Chattanooga church sues city for banning drive-in servicesThe lawsuit claims the city of Chattanooga violated the First and Fourteenth Amendments and there is no justification for banning drive-in services.Extending that tortured logic just a bit...so people stuck in traffic jams are also violating that order? And how about people in line at the drive-through windows of fast-food joints?"The City and Mayor have specifically targeted churches by banning drive-in services, despite permitting packed parking lots at retail establishments and drive-in restaurants."This stems from a post by Mayor Berke ahead of Easter stating that, "drive-in services . . . even in their cars with the windows rolled up, for any length of time will be considered a violation of our shelter-in-place directive."
This is amazing. New York's corrupt hack mayor is also an incompetent and ignorant boob. I guess you can include Bloomberg in this tarring, but I prefer to go after de Blasio, because he has been particularly vocal about others' failings, and even more vocal about how wonderful a job he is doing.
How New York City's Emergency Ventilator Stockpile Ended Up on the Auction Block
The city’s department of health, working with the state, was to begin purchasing ventilators and to “stockpile a supply of facemasks,” according to the report. Shortly after it was released, Bloomberg held a pandemic planning summit with top federal officials, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, now the face of the national coronavirus response. In the end, the alarming predictions failed to spur action. In the months that followed, the city acquired just 500 additional ventilators as the effort to create a larger stockpile fizzled amid budget cuts. Even those extra ventilators are long gone, the health department said on Sunday. The lifesaving devices broke down over time and were auctioned off by the city at least five years ago because the agency couldn’t afford to maintain them.de Blasio was elected in 2013 and took office in January of 2014, so this falls squarely in his venal lap. This jackleg has consistently made the wrong choices with just about everything, and it is only because of the laziness, stupidity and machine-politics mindset of NYC that he isn't a vapid backbencher, or even more appropriately, in jail for his underhanded dealings with his handlers in the real estate industry. And...a belated hat tip for the church article to Buck Throckmorton. Oops.
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I'll fetch em
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 12:01 PM (ZCEU2)
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Not first
Posted by: Bama Bubba at April 19, 2020 12:02 PM (mAxkE)
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Going to need a lot of lawyers
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 12:02 PM (ZCEU2)
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Government needs serfs to rule over. About 50% of US has no problems with playing that role.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:05 PM (JFO2v)
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Did he have a short run for the dem pres nom?
Posted by: BignJames at April 19, 2020 12:05 PM (X/Pw5)
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I find it fascinating that the mayor of one of America's largest sanctuary cities wants to deny access to the only true, legitimate sanctuaries - Churches.
I'm sure that the irony would be lost on him.
I'm sure that the irony would be lost on him.
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at April 19, 2020 12:06 PM (j42ZK)
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Don't think anti-religious bigots aren't aching to use this crisis as an excuse to terminate all public church and synagogue (but not mosque) congregational worship.
Don't think anti-religious bigots aren't aching to use this crisis as an excuse to terminate all public church and synagogue (but not mosque) congregational worship.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2020 12:07 PM (mht8P)
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6 I have no doubt it would, and he wouldn't care.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 12:07 PM (ZCEU2)
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How New York City's Emergency Ventilator Stockpile Ended Up on the Auction Block
What do you expect when taxes are too low and there aren't commonsense gun-control laws in place?
How New York City's Emergency Ventilator Stockpile Ended Up on the Auction Block
What do you expect when taxes are too low and there aren't commonsense gun-control laws in place?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2020 12:08 PM (mht8P)
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I don't know how a Christian can vote Democrat. I hope this opens a lot of eyes.
Isn't it funny even if "red states" but there is a Democrat Governor or Mayor (that pretends to be moderate or conservative) it's like the first thing they go after is people going to Church and try to shut down religious services.
The party hates religion and people of faith. And it's across the board.
Isn't it funny even if "red states" but there is a Democrat Governor or Mayor (that pretends to be moderate or conservative) it's like the first thing they go after is people going to Church and try to shut down religious services.
The party hates religion and people of faith. And it's across the board.
Posted by: Blago at April 19, 2020 12:08 PM (sjTfF)
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Did Chattanooga shut down their bus lines?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:08 PM (IwDj9)
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Sue them until you leave them writhing like a sliced worm on the ground. Then step on them and squish them into yellowish slime. The acid wash the slime. Then dig up the ground and put in new earth. Then salt the earth.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 19, 2020 12:09 PM (H8QX8)
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How New York City's Emergency Ventilator Stockpile Ended Up on the Auction Block
What do you expect when taxes are too low and there aren't commonsense gun-control laws in place?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Right? Planning for the future is racist.
How New York City's Emergency Ventilator Stockpile Ended Up on the Auction Block
What do you expect when taxes are too low and there aren't commonsense gun-control laws in place?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Right? Planning for the future is racist.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:09 PM (T6t7i)
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Georgia peak plague was two weeks ago, even the revised IHME model now admit this, and we are still not hitting the massively lower projected daily deaths.
We might still be able to avoid complete catastrophe. End the shut down and We Are In This Together now, the models are garbage and Epstein didn't kill himself.
We might still be able to avoid complete catastrophe. End the shut down and We Are In This Together now, the models are garbage and Epstein didn't kill himself.
Posted by: Ripley at April 19, 2020 12:09 PM (MxEKc)
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So I was thinking (no, I didn't hurt myself...)
The country is currently in the process of testing people who think they may have SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19.
These tests are coming back around 10% positive. (?) Which means that 90% of people who have symptoms that make them think they have the virus, do not actually have the virus.
Now, think of the CDC recommendation for counting COVID-19 *deaths*...
CDC recommends to count *everyone* who dies of similar symptoms of COVID-19 as a COVID-19 death.
So that means that even though testing is showing that only 10% of people assumed to have COVID-19 actually have it, 100% of people assumed to die of COVID-19 are being counted as having COVID-19.
That is a MASSIVE over-count of deaths.
The country is currently in the process of testing people who think they may have SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19.
These tests are coming back around 10% positive. (?) Which means that 90% of people who have symptoms that make them think they have the virus, do not actually have the virus.
Now, think of the CDC recommendation for counting COVID-19 *deaths*...
CDC recommends to count *everyone* who dies of similar symptoms of COVID-19 as a COVID-19 death.
So that means that even though testing is showing that only 10% of people assumed to have COVID-19 actually have it, 100% of people assumed to die of COVID-19 are being counted as having COVID-19.
That is a MASSIVE over-count of deaths.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 12:10 PM (Do5/p)
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Fuck 'em all. There should be a metric shit on of libertarian law fare in the next couple of years. This won't be the one and only pandemic that justifies mass public lockdowns. Each and every power that governors have taken for themselves should be challenged in court. Sunlight, disinfectants, etc.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:10 PM (+oVP5)
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A nursing home about 4 miles from where i live had 58 cases. All treated with the HCQ and Zpak. Not 1 single hospitalization required.
Yet I see many news saying it is unproven treatment being pushed by PDT.
If you think Big Govt is going to come out of this looking like idiots wait till you see how all news will be treated as fake.
Yet I see many news saying it is unproven treatment being pushed by PDT.
If you think Big Govt is going to come out of this looking like idiots wait till you see how all news will be treated as fake.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (JFO2v)
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Bloomberg is worse that Deblasio only because he has the money and thinks on a larger scale. Many say Bloomberg flipped VIrginia. The guy needs a life but I guess ruining other people's lives is his life.
I still can't comprehend how that city elected Bloomy and Deblasio and once elected Rudy. But then again, London elected Red Ken, then Boris Johnson, and then that person they have now that I won't mention because screw him.
I still can't comprehend how that city elected Bloomy and Deblasio and once elected Rudy. But then again, London elected Red Ken, then Boris Johnson, and then that person they have now that I won't mention because screw him.
Posted by: Quint at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (hHxp2)
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All of this is nothing more than a dress rehearsal for when these fascists gain full power - perhaps after convincing America to go to all mail ballots in November, after this flu breaks out again in the fall?
David Horowitz correctly states that inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out. We are watching proof of this warning as we speak.
David Horowitz correctly states that inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out. We are watching proof of this warning as we speak.
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (j42ZK)
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12 Sue them until you leave them writhing like a sliced worm on the ground. Then step on them and squish them into yellowish slime. The acid wash the slime. Then dig up the ground and put in new earth. Then salt the earth.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 19, 2020 12:09 PM (H8QX
Kinda like what los angeles did to it's gun stores.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 19, 2020 12:09 PM (H8QX
Kinda like what los angeles did to it's gun stores.
Posted by: banned baby browning at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (Ddosr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (85Gof)
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My husband and I were arguing about the incompetence of the models and bureaucrats this morning. I am seriously concerned about the economic and financial fallout from this that will probably start to hit in the fall. Hubs seems to think it could fall to a more deflationary cycle than inflationary. We won't know until we're there I guess.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (Xt7n2)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:12 PM (85Gof)
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deBlasio was going down for the real estate stuff until he cut a deal with Al Sharpton. The dems want crooks and scumbags in their party because they can be exploited without remorse.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 19, 2020 12:12 PM (4vNgL)
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For Christians, when seeking answers to how to deal with the current crisis (meaning the Romans and Pharisees breaking up your gatherings), I'd suggest you read some Paul.
See if there's anything he had to say that might seem relevant to your lives today.
You just might find Paul recommended more than just sitting at home by yourselves, praying.
See if there's anything he had to say that might seem relevant to your lives today.
You just might find Paul recommended more than just sitting at home by yourselves, praying.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:12 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 19, 2020 12:13 PM (2lndx)
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@15: "Which means that 90% of people who have symptoms that make them think they have the virus, do not actually have the virus."
Huge (and wrong) assumption that all negative results are truly negative. Standard tests for basic viral things like flu and mononucleosis have tons of wiggle room in the results; both false positive and negatives. Same goes for COVID-19.
Huge (and wrong) assumption that all negative results are truly negative. Standard tests for basic viral things like flu and mononucleosis have tons of wiggle room in the results; both false positive and negatives. Same goes for COVID-19.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:13 PM (+oVP5)
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A nursing home about 4 miles from where i live had 58 cases. All treated with the HCQ and Zpak. Not 1 single hospitalization required.
Yet I see many news saying it is unproven treatment being pushed by PDT.
If you think Big Govt is going to come out of this looking like idiots wait till you see how all news will be treated as fake.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (JFO2v)
Someone's mom I know who is in a nursing home tested positive and was treated with it and is good to go today
Yet I see many news saying it is unproven treatment being pushed by PDT.
If you think Big Govt is going to come out of this looking like idiots wait till you see how all news will be treated as fake.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (JFO2v)
Someone's mom I know who is in a nursing home tested positive and was treated with it and is good to go today
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:13 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 19, 2020 12:13 PM (UUBmN)
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So I am taking a poll, should I have more coffee or Scotch?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (85Gof)
more scotch
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (85Gof)
more scotch
Posted by: BignJames at April 19, 2020 12:13 PM (X/Pw5)
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HAHAHAHA
Chattanooga not only DIDN'T shut down their bus lines, they made them free.
"All passengers will be allowed to enter buses only from the rear door, reducing face-to-face interactions with drivers that would happen when paying fares. Buses will not be allowed to carry more than 10 passengers at a time, according to a CARTA statement released Wednesday."
https://tinyurl.com/ybuf6q7u
No fares and passengers entering from the back because they don't want the driver getting sick, but giving it to everyone else as you cart them around the city for free is essential.
Chattanooga not only DIDN'T shut down their bus lines, they made them free.
"All passengers will be allowed to enter buses only from the rear door, reducing face-to-face interactions with drivers that would happen when paying fares. Buses will not be allowed to carry more than 10 passengers at a time, according to a CARTA statement released Wednesday."
https://tinyurl.com/ybuf6q7u
No fares and passengers entering from the back because they don't want the driver getting sick, but giving it to everyone else as you cart them around the city for free is essential.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:13 PM (IwDj9)
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I in beginning thought a couple of weeks very little harm to economy.
3 weeks was going to be the start of weak businesses failing and every week after some percentage will start to fail.
3 weeks was going to be the start of weak businesses failing and every week after some percentage will start to fail.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (ZCEU2)
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Can I comment on JJ's sidebar post - "it now appears that the overall U.S. death rate this winter season is at a multi-year low". Of course it would be - stay at home orders, no one driving, no one is transmitting flu at work, school, and nursing homes are now under tighter protocols. I am not sure what point JJ is making there. If it was not the case, if it was handled differently, we would have had more deaths. It's like saying hey, the patient lived, we did not need to give him meds, after he was given meds. If anything, lower death toll stats support the stay at home. It is also plain logic - no interaction, no communicable diseases.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
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21 So I am taking a poll, should I have more coffee or Scotch?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (85Gof)
boff of em Irish Coffee
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (85Gof)
boff of em Irish Coffee
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM (JFO2v)
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@21: "21 So I am taking a poll, should I have more coffee or Scotch?"
I did rye old fashioneds last night, and this morning, I am finding that coffee in the same cup with leftover oranges and demerara sugar is kinda nice.
I did rye old fashioneds last night, and this morning, I am finding that coffee in the same cup with leftover oranges and demerara sugar is kinda nice.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM (+oVP5)
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I wonder if the greater "Church" knows that they have sustained a serious wound to faith. If you believe in the Nicean Creed how can the church close? How can we trust in God if the Church does not? Huddling in fear and not resisting this awful attack on faith is disheartning. I pray God forgives us...
Posted by: Catman at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM (4HMlb)
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Yet I see many news saying it is unproven treatment being pushed by PDT.
If you think Big Govt is going to come out of this looking like idiots wait till you see how all news will be treated as fake.
Posted by: rhennigantx
Actually, I was thinking this morning that I hadn't seen nearly as much of the anti-HCQ nonsense from the left recently. I suspect they've finally figured out how idiotic they look, and that voters will remember their attempts to exploit the situation, which may well have killed lots of people.
If you think Big Govt is going to come out of this looking like idiots wait till you see how all news will be treated as fake.
Posted by: rhennigantx
Actually, I was thinking this morning that I hadn't seen nearly as much of the anti-HCQ nonsense from the left recently. I suspect they've finally figured out how idiotic they look, and that voters will remember their attempts to exploit the situation, which may well have killed lots of people.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM (T6t7i)
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As an aside, once you are tested and come up negative, I don't see any great comfort because you may go out and get infected 5 minutes after your test comes back. Negative test results don't confer immunity. Just saying.
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at April 19, 2020 12:16 PM (j42ZK)
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2020 12:16 PM (QzJWU)
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It seems that every time a Hawaiian judge comes out with a ruling it covers the entire country. Why is it that when a Federal judge shoots down Nazi mayors or governors over religious services it only covers the geographical location that originally sued?
Posted by: Bill R. at April 19, 2020 12:16 PM (wzzJf)
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Scotch does not work in coffee
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 12:16 PM (ZCEU2)
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So I was thinking again...
In the EMT, someone mentioned the CDC doing studies for "racism" and "gun control".
And it got me thinking of how politics has basically infected every area of every industry. Hollywood/entertainment, schools, universities, journalism that has nothing to do with politics, etc.
And, because of that, people aren't actually focusing on their actual jobs. They're too busy infusing their political opinions into their non-political jobs.
Imagine how much better schools and universities would be if they were focusing on mathematics instead of SJW-ism with mathematics as an afterthought.
And how much better the CDC might be if the people hired there were actually doing their damn jobs to protect people from infectious viruses and diseases instead of going off in the woods on side jobs dealing with "racism" and "gun-control".
It's amazing how much is fucked up in this country due to people not doing their damn jobs.
We need more Bill Belichick's in every industry to get their people to keep their damn focus: "DO. YOUR. JOB."
In the EMT, someone mentioned the CDC doing studies for "racism" and "gun control".
And it got me thinking of how politics has basically infected every area of every industry. Hollywood/entertainment, schools, universities, journalism that has nothing to do with politics, etc.
And, because of that, people aren't actually focusing on their actual jobs. They're too busy infusing their political opinions into their non-political jobs.
Imagine how much better schools and universities would be if they were focusing on mathematics instead of SJW-ism with mathematics as an afterthought.
And how much better the CDC might be if the people hired there were actually doing their damn jobs to protect people from infectious viruses and diseases instead of going off in the woods on side jobs dealing with "racism" and "gun-control".
It's amazing how much is fucked up in this country due to people not doing their damn jobs.
We need more Bill Belichick's in every industry to get their people to keep their damn focus: "DO. YOUR. JOB."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 12:16 PM (Do5/p)
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No fares and passengers entering from the back because they don't want the driver getting sick, but giving it to everyone else as you cart them around the city for free is essential.
Hola Los Angeles! Buggerhooks in noses (dont need no steenking masks) then hand rails. Si se puede ja ja ja.
Hola Los Angeles! Buggerhooks in noses (dont need no steenking masks) then hand rails. Si se puede ja ja ja.
Posted by: banned's good attitude day at April 19, 2020 12:17 PM (Ddosr)
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It is "The Year of the Rat".
Posted by: Javems at April 19, 2020 12:17 PM (ofIwF)
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Am I right in thinking they never did shut down the subways?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 19, 2020 12:17 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:17 PM (+oVP5)
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Seattle has had free transport on mass transit all month.
NGU, put some Irish in the coffee with a little sugar and some cream.
You can be a wide awake drunk.
NGU, put some Irish in the coffee with a little sugar and some cream.
You can be a wide awake drunk.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 12:18 PM (VRslY)
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Actually, I was thinking this morning that I hadn't seen nearly as much of the anti-HCQ nonsense from the left recently. I suspect they've finally figured out how idiotic they look, and that voters will remember their attempts to exploit the situation, which may well have killed lots of people.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM (T6t7i)
Daily Mail CNN Drugged Report all had stories today.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM (T6t7i)
Daily Mail CNN Drugged Report all had stories today.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:18 PM (JFO2v)
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Scotch does not work in coffee
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 12:16 PM (ZCEU2)
I hear ya, dump the coffee.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 12:16 PM (ZCEU2)
I hear ya, dump the coffee.
Posted by: Quint at April 19, 2020 12:18 PM (hHxp2)
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If it was not the case, if it was handled differently, we would have had more deaths. It's like saying hey, the patient lived, we did not need to give him meds, after he was given meds. If anything, lower death toll stats support the stay at home. It is also plain logic - no interaction, no communicable diseases.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
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Fair enough. But in order for me to accept the model hypothesis that we're all gonna die even with closing the boat ramps in rural West Virginia because NYC is infested, I need that hypothesis to hit within 10% or so. I might allow 20%.
Adjusting the hypothesis after 99.91% of people don't die isn't how things work. Well, okay, it *is* how modern Science! works, but you know what I mean.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
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Fair enough. But in order for me to accept the
Adjusting the hypothesis after 99.91% of people don't die isn't how things work. Well, okay, it *is* how modern Science! works, but you know what I mean.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:18 PM (IwDj9)
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My husband and I were arguing about the incompetence of the models and bureaucrats this morning.
Used correctly, models aren't incompetent. They make predictions based on the best available data. If the data is lacking, the model can't be trusted, but that's the job of the person using it to point out. Reliance on a model that lacks sufficient data to provide a useful answer is incompetent.
My husband and I were arguing about the incompetence of the models and bureaucrats this morning.
Used correctly, models aren't incompetent. They make predictions based on the best available data. If the data is lacking, the model can't be trusted, but that's the job of the person using it to point out. Reliance on a model that lacks sufficient data to provide a useful answer is incompetent.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:19 PM (T6t7i)
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@45: "Am I right in thinking they never did shut down the subways?"
They didn't. Way too many NYC revenues and union jobs to pull the plug despite obvious public health reasons to do so from day one.
They didn't. Way too many NYC revenues and union jobs to pull the plug despite obvious public health reasons to do so from day one.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:19 PM (+oVP5)
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Huge (and wrong) assumption that all negative results are truly negative. Standard tests for basic viral things like flu and mononucleosis have tons of wiggle room in the results; both false positive and negatives.
This is why mass testing is almost always a bad idea. It tends to replace common sense and it reduces the ability of people still using common sense to get the care they need.
Unless the disease is one where you go to sleep healthy and wake up dead, mass testing tends to overwhelm real cases with false positives. And to a lesser extent means denying service to false negatives; the more tests, the more false positives and negatives.
People tend to be surprised when they find out how high the false results rates are in medical testing.
This is why mass testing is almost always a bad idea. It tends to replace common sense and it reduces the ability of people still using common sense to get the care they need.
Unless the disease is one where you go to sleep healthy and wake up dead, mass testing tends to overwhelm real cases with false positives. And to a lesser extent means denying service to false negatives; the more tests, the more false positives and negatives.
People tend to be surprised when they find out how high the false results rates are in medical testing.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 19, 2020 12:19 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:19 PM (JFO2v)
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On the bright side, we got bad science AND a looming 30% unemployment and Greater Depression from it.
Yay.
Yay.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:20 PM (IwDj9)
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A nursing home about 4 miles from where i live had 58 cases. All treated with the HCQ and Zpak. Not 1 single hospitalization required.
Yet I see many news saying it is unproven treatment being pushed by PDT.
If you think Big Govt is going to come out of this looking like idiots wait till you see how all news will be treated as fake.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (JFO2v)
I can't quite wrap my head around the infection and death rates in New York City, compared to everywhere else.
Something's going on there that doesn't add up, and it's not just that too many people are crammed together.
I think there MIGHT be lessons to learn here, if anyone is actually analyzing data, but my fear is nobody is going to look too hard at this stuff. They aren't going to WANT to know why some cities were cesspits, and others weren't. They don't want to know which treatments were effective, and they sure as hell don't want to know the racial breakdown on who got better, and who died.
Yet I see many news saying it is unproven treatment being pushed by PDT.
If you think Big Govt is going to come out of this looking like idiots wait till you see how all news will be treated as fake.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:11 PM (JFO2v)
I can't quite wrap my head around the infection and death rates in New York City, compared to everywhere else.
Something's going on there that doesn't add up, and it's not just that too many people are crammed together.
I think there MIGHT be lessons to learn here, if anyone is actually analyzing data, but my fear is nobody is going to look too hard at this stuff. They aren't going to WANT to know why some cities were cesspits, and others weren't. They don't want to know which treatments were effective, and they sure as hell don't want to know the racial breakdown on who got better, and who died.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:20 PM (hku12)
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Though I don't care for Dan Crenshaw, he calmly eviscerated Bill Maher with the bland dispassion of a surgeon. In truth, it shouldn't be hard to do for anybody who follows the facts and their context.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 19, 2020 12:20 PM (H8QX8)
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Actually, I was thinking this morning that I
hadn't seen nearly as much of the anti-HCQ nonsense from the left
recently. I suspect they've finally figured out how idiotic they look,
and that voters will remember their attempts to exploit the situation,
which may well have killed lots of people.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM (T6t7i)
Yes, but it gave Rita Wilson, Tom Hanks wife, an upset tummy!
hadn't seen nearly as much of the anti-HCQ nonsense from the left
recently. I suspect they've finally figured out how idiotic they look,
and that voters will remember their attempts to exploit the situation,
which may well have killed lots of people.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM (T6t7i)
Yes, but it gave Rita Wilson, Tom Hanks wife, an upset tummy!
Posted by: Javems at April 19, 2020 12:20 PM (ofIwF)
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38 As an aside, once you are tested and come up negative, I don't see any great comfort because you may go out and get infected 5 minutes after your test comes back. Negative test results don't confer immunity. Just saying.
Chinese food flu. Test negative and an hour later you want to test again.
Chinese food flu. Test negative and an hour later you want to test again.
Posted by: banned puts fingers to corners of eyes and squints, babbles at April 19, 2020 12:20 PM (Ddosr)
60
"Am I right in thinking they never did shut down the subways?"
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It's almost like it wasn't a Super Contagious Deadly Virus that was going to kill 300 billion people or something.
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It's almost like it wasn't a Super Contagious Deadly Virus that was going to kill 300 billion people or something.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:21 PM (IwDj9)
61
On the bright side, we got bad science AND a looming 30% unemployment and Greater Depression from it.
Why does Weimar Republic pop into my head?
Why does Weimar Republic pop into my head?
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at April 19, 2020 12:21 PM (j42ZK)
62
In the EMT, someone mentioned the CDC doing studies for "racism" and "gun control".
They have also been doing obesity, which at least is a legitimate health problem.
They have also been doing obesity, which at least is a legitimate health problem.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:22 PM (T6t7i)
63
What the media, and, sadly, even many scientists, forget is that models are theories. They must be treated as theories. Too often, when a model is falsified by reality, it's reality that they try to change rather than the theory.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 19, 2020 12:22 PM (2lndx)
64
You can understand a whole lot about a person's priorities just by knowing where they live.
Posted by: The Flu Manchurian Candidate
I call bullshit.
I was here first.
I'm not leaving.
Fuck off with your judgement
Posted by: The Flu Manchurian Candidate
I call bullshit.
I was here first.
I'm not leaving.
Fuck off with your judgement
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 12:23 PM (VRslY)
65
I think I let these pork chops marinate too long.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 19, 2020 12:23 PM (A5zUN)
66
People tend to be surprised when they find out how high the false results rates are in medical testing.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 19, 2020 12:19 PM (2lndx)
The best indication of how a disease progressed is to look at samples (blood, etc) that were collected over a period of time for standard testings. This allows you to look over longer periods of time than right now or even last 50 days.
And mass testing for those without a negative flu test and fever for 3 to 4 days is waste of time and money.
Texas positive rate is barely over 10%. I wonder how many of those are false positives?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 19, 2020 12:19 PM (2lndx)
The best indication of how a disease progressed is to look at samples (blood, etc) that were collected over a period of time for standard testings. This allows you to look over longer periods of time than right now or even last 50 days.
And mass testing for those without a negative flu test and fever for 3 to 4 days is waste of time and money.
Texas positive rate is barely over 10%. I wonder how many of those are false positives?
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:23 PM (JFO2v)
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That is a MASSIVE over-count of deaths.
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Edit to add: If you have Kung-flu and get hit by a bus, you've died of Kung-flu.
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Edit to add: If you have Kung-flu and get hit by a bus, you've died of Kung-flu.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 12:23 PM (7Fj9P)
68
@53: "People tend to be surprised when they find out how high the false results rates are in medical testing."
I grew up with an old, post-war transplanted German family doctor who basically scoffed at all basic blood tests for viruses. Bacterial infections are an entirely different thing. Viral illnesses are unique in terms of individual viral load and auto-immune response. It is, quite literally, not black and white.
I grew up with an old, post-war transplanted German family doctor who basically scoffed at all basic blood tests for viruses. Bacterial infections are an entirely different thing. Viral illnesses are unique in terms of individual viral load and auto-immune response. It is, quite literally, not black and white.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:23 PM (+oVP5)
69
>>It's almost like it wasn't a Super Contagious Deadly Virus that was going to kill 300 billion people or something.
Axshually, some MIT researcher did a study plotting the outbreak of cases in NY and then overlaid it on the subway lines.
You'll never guess what he found. The subways are an absolute vector for contagion. Surprising absolutely nobody.
Axshually, some MIT researcher did a study plotting the outbreak of cases in NY and then overlaid it on the subway lines.
You'll never guess what he found. The subways are an absolute vector for contagion. Surprising absolutely nobody.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2020 12:24 PM (ZLI7S)
70
Yes, but it gave Rita Wilson, Tom Hanks wife, an upset tummy!
Posted by: Javems at April 19, 2020 12:20 PM (ofIwF)
Funny that about 30% of people with winnie the flu complain of dizziness and sometimes nausea.
Posted by: Javems at April 19, 2020 12:20 PM (ofIwF)
Funny that about 30% of people with winnie the flu complain of dizziness and sometimes nausea.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:24 PM (JFO2v)
71
I call bullshit.
I was here first.
I'm not leaving.
Fuck off with your judgement
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 12:23 PM (VRslY)
Preach it, Nurse! S'truth.
I was here first.
I'm not leaving.
Fuck off with your judgement
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 12:23 PM (VRslY)
Preach it, Nurse! S'truth.
Posted by: the banned too at April 19, 2020 12:25 PM (Ddosr)
72
You'll never guess what he found. The subways are an absolute vector for contagion. Surprising absolutely nobody.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2020 12:24 PM (ZLI7S)
--
"I could be even more accurate with an additional thirty million dollar grant!"
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2020 12:24 PM (ZLI7S)
--
"I could be even more accurate with an additional thirty million dollar grant!"
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:25 PM (IwDj9)
73
Something I found in an old Creative Computing collection recently:
Reality's an untamed beast
That's difficult to master,
But models are quite docile
And give you answers faster.
So build yourself a model
To glorify your name.
Then get yourself a task force
And learn to play the game.
--J.C.L. Guest, "Decison-Making"
Reality's an untamed beast
That's difficult to master,
But models are quite docile
And give you answers faster.
So build yourself a model
To glorify your name.
Then get yourself a task force
And learn to play the game.
--J.C.L. Guest, "Decison-Making"
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 19, 2020 12:25 PM (2lndx)
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63 In the EMT, someone mentioned the CDC doing studies for "racism" and "gun control".
They have also been doing obesity, which at least is a legitimate health problem.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:22 PM (T6t7i)
And also why are lesbians fat and homely.
They have also been doing obesity, which at least is a legitimate health problem.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:22 PM (T6t7i)
And also why are lesbians fat and homely.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:25 PM (JFO2v)
75
Hopefully, Americans are learning just how deadly this parasitic virus can be and are finally figuring out it's time for an all out war against it before it kills us all, i.e the virus of collectivism/progressivism.
Posted by: Roy at April 19, 2020 12:25 PM (Ti+Tv)
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@58: "Yes, but it gave Rita Wilson, Tom Hanks wife, an upset tummy!"
Worse, she did chloroquine, not hydroxychloroquine; subtle, but significant difference.
Worse, she did chloroquine, not hydroxychloroquine; subtle, but significant difference.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:26 PM (+oVP5)
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If anything, lower death toll stats support the stay at home. It is also plain logic - no interaction, no communicable diseases.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
Except there's no data that indicates stay at home orders reduced the death rate.
Zero. None.
People are dealing with superstitions, and the Science Industrial Complex is likely not going to do anything to correct any of those beliefs.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
Except there's no data that indicates stay at home orders reduced the death rate.
Zero. None.
People are dealing with superstitions, and the Science Industrial Complex is likely not going to do anything to correct any of those beliefs.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)
78
Careful there Flu Manchurian Candidate. I'd hate for you to injure yourself patting yourself on the back so hard for being so virtuous and having the right priorities.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 19, 2020 12:26 PM (H5knJ)
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Used correctly, models aren't incompetent. They
make predictions based on the best available data. If the data is
lacking, the model can't be trusted, but that's the job of the person
using it to point out. Reliance on a model that lacks sufficient data to
provide a useful answer is incompetent.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:19 PM (T6t7i)
I ran various computer models for 20 years. If you are sly enough you can make them say whatever you want. What is also amazing is that when confronted with disagreement with actual data, people tend to believe the model.
make predictions based on the best available data. If the data is
lacking, the model can't be trusted, but that's the job of the person
using it to point out. Reliance on a model that lacks sufficient data to
provide a useful answer is incompetent.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:19 PM (T6t7i)
I ran various computer models for 20 years. If you are sly enough you can make them say whatever you want. What is also amazing is that when confronted with disagreement with actual data, people tend to believe the model.
Posted by: Javems at April 19, 2020 12:27 PM (ofIwF)
80
Fair enough. But in order for me to accept the model hypothesis that we're all gonna die even with closing the boat ramps in rural West Virginia because NYC is infested, I need that hypothesis to hit within 10% or so. I might allow 20%.
Adjusting the hypothesis after 99.91% of people don't die isn't how things work. Well, okay, it *is* how modern Science! works, but you know what I mean.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:18 PM (IwDj9)
I was talking specifically about the claims in that post, and that the stay at home is unrelated to the reduction in overall deaths in the US. "We are all gonna die " hyperbole gets bandied around a lot on this blog and I am not going to go into it. What we do know is that flu, basic flu, is a communicable disease that kills many every year. You halt gatherings you stop its ability to transmit. We know for a fact that many die on roads. Traffic accidents. You stop that, you put an end to death on roads. Fact. I am not discussing the wisdom of various stay at home orders.
Adjusting the hypothesis after 99.91% of people don't die isn't how things work. Well, okay, it *is* how modern Science! works, but you know what I mean.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:18 PM (IwDj9)
I was talking specifically about the claims in that post, and that the stay at home is unrelated to the reduction in overall deaths in the US. "We are all gonna die " hyperbole gets bandied around a lot on this blog and I am not going to go into it. What we do know is that flu, basic flu, is a communicable disease that kills many every year. You halt gatherings you stop its ability to transmit. We know for a fact that many die on roads. Traffic accidents. You stop that, you put an end to death on roads. Fact. I am not discussing the wisdom of various stay at home orders.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:27 PM (zr5Kq)
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@78: "People are dealing with superstitions, and the Science Industrial Complex is likely not going to do anything to correct any of those beliefs."
White lab coats are just another kind of priestly robes.
White lab coats are just another kind of priestly robes.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:27 PM (+oVP5)
82
Except there's no data that indicates stay at home orders reduced the death rate.
Zero. None.
People are dealing with superstitions, and the Science Industrial Complex is likely not going to do anything to correct any of those beliefs.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)
Also same for infection rate and when it dies out. It is running peak about 40 days after entering population and trends downward to about day 70.
Zero. None.
People are dealing with superstitions, and the Science Industrial Complex is likely not going to do anything to correct any of those beliefs.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)
Also same for infection rate and when it dies out. It is running peak about 40 days after entering population and trends downward to about day 70.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:27 PM (JFO2v)
83
Coumo didnt shut down the subways bacause too many people actually need them. NYC is not built for cars or buses.He is now talking about it. I talked to a unuon electrician Friday who told me that unemployment is paying fullpay so no one needs to work. His company went from 300 to 40 despite having to wire up field hopistals on Long Island.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 19, 2020 12:28 PM (4vNgL)
84
The coronavirus could linger in the testicles, making men prone to longer, more severe cases of the illness, according to a new study.
Well ain't that just a kick in the groin
Well ain't that just a kick in the groin
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:28 PM (85Gof)
85
I ran various computer models for 20 years. If you are sly enough you can make them say whatever you want. What is also amazing is that when confronted with disagreement with actual data, people tend to believe the model.
Posted by: Javems
I'm far from a computer expert, but found out in the early days of messing with it at work, if it was on green bar paper, the bosses would believe whatever number I put on it.
Posted by: Javems
I'm far from a computer expert, but found out in the early days of messing with it at work, if it was on green bar paper, the bosses would believe whatever number I put on it.
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2020 12:29 PM (vd8XM)
86
What we do know is that flu, basic flu, is a communicable disease that kills many every year. You halt gatherings you stop its ability to transmit. We know for a fact that many die on roads. Traffic accidents. You stop that, you put an end to death on roads. Fact. I am not discussing the wisdom of various stay at home orders.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:27 PM (zr5Kq)
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I hope to eventually see a report on how many hundreds of millions of dollars each saved life cost. Total for everything. $2T stimulus, lost tax revenue, unemployment, etc.
Hopefully someone has the chops to research that next year.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:27 PM (zr5Kq)
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I hope to eventually see a report on how many hundreds of millions of dollars each saved life cost. Total for everything. $2T stimulus, lost tax revenue, unemployment, etc.
Hopefully someone has the chops to research that next year.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:29 PM (IwDj9)
87
>>I ran various computer models for 20 years. If you are sly enough you can make them say whatever you want. What is also amazing is that when confronted with disagreement with actual data, people tend to believe the model.
See Warming, Global.
See Warming, Global.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2020 12:30 PM (ZLI7S)
88
@80: "If you are sly enough you can make them say whatever you want."
Not even sly. Anyone who's dealt with exponential math knows you can quite literally bend that curve all over the place by adjusting decimals in initial data. There's a reason why they teach significant digits in the first day of freshman physics and chemistry. Funny how that same logic often doesn't apply to data science.
Not even sly. Anyone who's dealt with exponential math knows you can quite literally bend that curve all over the place by adjusting decimals in initial data. There's a reason why they teach significant digits in the first day of freshman physics and chemistry. Funny how that same logic often doesn't apply to data science.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:30 PM (+oVP5)
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What is also amazing is that when confronted with disagreement with actual data, people tend to believe the model.[/]
True. Insert Feynmann quote here.
True. Insert Feynmann quote here.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:31 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:31 PM (T6t7i)
91
We are powerless against death; making everyone bubble boy is not the answer.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at April 19, 2020 12:32 PM (nFRLh)
92
Of course it would be - stay at home orders, no one driving, no one is transmitting flu at work, school, and nursing homes are now under tighter protocols.
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Yeah after stabbing myself in the hand, I went to urgent care the next day to get it checked out. The Nurse Practitioner said her hospital syndicate had closed half their urgent cares down, b/c nobody was doing anything. She was grateful for my incompetence.
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Yeah after stabbing myself in the hand, I went to urgent care the next day to get it checked out. The Nurse Practitioner said her hospital syndicate had closed half their urgent cares down, b/c nobody was doing anything. She was grateful for my incompetence.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 12:32 PM (7Fj9P)
Posted by: socalcon at April 19, 2020 12:33 PM (Roy2Z)
94
I left NYC for LA, and now CT, eight years ago. In my time in NY, I lived through the mayoralties of Robert Wagner, John Lindsay, Abe Beame, Ed Koch, David Dinkins, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Bloomberg.
Looking back at those city leaders, Rudy was the outlier. Everyone else - including Koch - was varying levels of awful. Bloomberg managed the decline with a degree of competence, but by and large NYC was a terribly managed place. What they've largely gotten since Rudy was a slow, painful, reversion to the mean.
Even now, with De Blasio's no good, very bad, terrible stewardship as mayor, I don't think anyone there can see a successor to him. If he ran for mayor for another term, there is no reason to think that he would lose, even with the lemmings in NYC knowing what they do now about him.
I'm so glad I'm no longer a New Yorker. I mourn for the city that is lost, possibly for good.
Looking back at those city leaders, Rudy was the outlier. Everyone else - including Koch - was varying levels of awful. Bloomberg managed the decline with a degree of competence, but by and large NYC was a terribly managed place. What they've largely gotten since Rudy was a slow, painful, reversion to the mean.
Even now, with De Blasio's no good, very bad, terrible stewardship as mayor, I don't think anyone there can see a successor to him. If he ran for mayor for another term, there is no reason to think that he would lose, even with the lemmings in NYC knowing what they do now about him.
I'm so glad I'm no longer a New Yorker. I mourn for the city that is lost, possibly for good.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 19, 2020 12:34 PM (LPWLR)
95
Damn! It's getting real hard to keep track of all the demands for seats, but we will do our best.
Posted by: Aero Pinochet at April 19, 2020 12:34 PM (miJU3)
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@78: "People are dealing with superstitions, and the Science Industrial Complex is likely not going to do anything to correct any of those beliefs."
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White lab coats are just another kind of priestly robes.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:27 PM (+oVP5)
Yep. As are so-called science journal editors are peer reviewers.
If you submit a paper that doesn't fit the narrative, it won't be accepted. It gets trashed by the lords who rule a particular field. Which has a profound effect on what is considered "settled science" in all sorts of fields.
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White lab coats are just another kind of priestly robes.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:27 PM (+oVP5)
Yep. As are so-called science journal editors are peer reviewers.
If you submit a paper that doesn't fit the narrative, it won't be accepted. It gets trashed by the lords who rule a particular field. Which has a profound effect on what is considered "settled science" in all sorts of fields.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:34 PM (hku12)
97
If it disagrees with experiment it is wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.
-- Richard Feynman, The Character of Physical Law, p. 150
-- Richard Feynman, The Character of Physical Law, p. 150
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 19, 2020 12:35 PM (2lndx)
98
I hope to eventually see a report on how many hundreds of millions of dollars each saved life cost. Total for everything. $2T stimulus, lost tax revenue, unemployment, etc.
Hopefully someone has the chops to research that next year.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:29 PM (IwDj9)
Again, I am talking specifically about the claim that there is no direct and verifiable relationship. You are expanding the argument into areas the article did not cover - financial, economic. Many here like to make emotional arguments, more acute depending on where they live I am not going to get into that either.
Hopefully someone has the chops to research that next year.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:29 PM (IwDj9)
Again, I am talking specifically about the claim that there is no direct and verifiable relationship. You are expanding the argument into areas the article did not cover - financial, economic. Many here like to make emotional arguments, more acute depending on where they live I am not going to get into that either.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (zr5Kq)
99
Just from noticing (not scientific) but wuhu flu seems to be a wimpy virus in that it needs to have a large amount of virus in a self contained area like say nursing homes and subways.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (r+sAi)
100
Yeah after stabbing myself in the hand, I went to urgent care the next day to get it checked out. The Nurse Practitioner said her hospital syndicate had closed half their urgent cares down, b/c nobody was doing anything. She was grateful for my incompetence.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 12:32 PM (7Fj9P)
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Yep. I read where even isolated rural hospitals are losing $100M/month.
But hey, we allowed a 93 year old diabetic with lung cancer to live three more months, so what happens next is worth it.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 12:32 PM (7Fj9P)
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Yep. I read where even isolated rural hospitals are losing $100M/month.
But hey, we allowed a 93 year old diabetic with lung cancer to live three more months, so what happens next is worth it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (IwDj9)
101
If you submit a paper that doesn't fit the narrative, it won't be
accepted. It gets trashed by the lords who rule a particular field.
Which has a profound effect on what is considered "settled science" in
all sorts of fields.
The insistence on amyloid plaques as THE cause of Alzheimer's is an excellent example. People who tried to publish on other theories of causation were blackballed and their careers ruined. Eventually, people got the message and stopped trying to publish on other potential causes. Think how many lives were ruined as a result.
That isn't science, it's ego.
accepted. It gets trashed by the lords who rule a particular field.
Which has a profound effect on what is considered "settled science" in
all sorts of fields.
The insistence on amyloid plaques as THE cause of Alzheimer's is an excellent example. People who tried to publish on other theories of causation were blackballed and their careers ruined. Eventually, people got the message and stopped trying to publish on other potential causes. Think how many lives were ruined as a result.
That isn't science, it's ego.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (T6t7i)
102
Again, I am talking specifically about the claim that there is no direct and verifiable relationship. You are expanding the argument into areas the article did not cover - financial, economic. Many here like to make emotional arguments, more acute depending on where they live I am not going to get into that either.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (zr5Kq)
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Sorry if that last post seemed more pointed than it was. I wasn't trying to attack or argue, just comment.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (zr5Kq)
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Sorry if that last post seemed more pointed than it was. I wasn't trying to attack or argue, just comment.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (IwDj9)
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I've voted with my feet before. I'll do it again if needed.
Posted by: The Flu Manchurian Candidate
Good for you.
I'm not leaving. I was here first
*plants flag*
Posted by: The Flu Manchurian Candidate
Good for you.
I'm not leaving. I was here first
*plants flag*
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 12:37 PM (VRslY)
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Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)
Also same for infection rate and when it dies out. It is running peak about 40 days after entering population and trends downward to about day 70.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:27 PM (JFO2v)
Everyone with any common sense keeps saying "gee, I sure do hope we get some good data on how many people are infected, including those who are asymptomatic."
My prediction is, we'll never get that data.
Also same for infection rate and when it dies out. It is running peak about 40 days after entering population and trends downward to about day 70.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:27 PM (JFO2v)
Everyone with any common sense keeps saying "gee, I sure do hope we get some good data on how many people are infected, including those who are asymptomatic."
My prediction is, we'll never get that data.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:38 PM (hku12)
105
Maybe it's not good to live stacked on top of each other.
Posted by: Infidel at April 19, 2020 12:38 PM (nvc6v)
106
It is also plain logic - no interaction, no communicable diseases.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
"Obtuse" isn't just a term from geometry.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
"Obtuse" isn't just a term from geometry.
Posted by: Aero Pinochet at April 19, 2020 12:38 PM (miJU3)
107
The HCQ drug seems to be effective. Unfortunately it's also generic. Big pharma hoping to stall for an expensive and mandatory treatment?
Posted by: Dr. Kildare at April 19, 2020 12:39 PM (bR4ql)
108
Again, just reading the comments, I'm amazed at how many still are buying into the leftist premise about this virus. Fuck the tests, fuck the models, fuck the stats. If you believe in individual liberty, then start acting like you do.
For myself, I'm more than willing to be confronted by police or these totalitarian authorities for being a free American. I'm already doing that at work with the rules the state university is are trying to implement.
No. I'm not wearing a mask. No. I will not social-distance or any other absurd rule that means to separate me from others.
For myself, I'm more than willing to be confronted by police or these totalitarian authorities for being a free American. I'm already doing that at work with the rules the state university is are trying to implement.
No. I'm not wearing a mask. No. I will not social-distance or any other absurd rule that means to separate me from others.
Posted by: Sooner at April 19, 2020 12:39 PM (Fs5vw)
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But New York will vote to keep both DeBolshivek and Cohomo no matter how badly they have handled their jobs or how many thousands of deaths and tens of billions of taxpayer money they have on their hands.
The democrat party should be outlawed. Their leaders jailed and all assets auctioned off to payback the state and local treasuries they have plundered.
The democrat party should be outlawed. Their leaders jailed and all assets auctioned off to payback the state and local treasuries they have plundered.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 19, 2020 12:39 PM (pw+jk)
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As opposed to modeling WuhanFlu, we know exactly how many died in traffic accident every year and exactly how many died of seasonal flu every year. We do not need models and do not need to "project" what would happen if there are empty highways.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:39 PM (zr5Kq)
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You cannot argue that living in confinement reduces the effects of plagues, car wrecks and other life ending activities; you can argue whether living in confinement is truly living.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at April 19, 2020 12:40 PM (nFRLh)
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Big pharma hoping to stall for an expensive and mandatory treatment?
Posted by: Dr. Kildare at April 19, 2020 12:39 PM (bR4ql)
And the big banks are screwing the little guy and blah...blah...blah.
Posted by: Dr. Kildare at April 19, 2020 12:39 PM (bR4ql)
And the big banks are screwing the little guy and blah...blah...blah.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2020 12:40 PM (dLLD6)
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It's almost like it wasn't a Super Contagious Deadly Virus that was going to kill 300 billion people or something.
Axshually, some MIT researcher did a study plotting the outbreak of cases in NY and then overlaid it on the subway lines.
You'll never guess what he found. The subways are an absolute vector for contagion. Surprising absolutely nobody.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2020 12:24 PM
And that is why I have said that NYC is not actually being serious about this virus until they shut down the subway system.
Those places are the perfect breeding ground for disease like this and they aren't doing anything to stop that vector.
Problem is, they are a serious cash influx for the City and they are not going to turn off that revenue stream when almost every other source of $$$ has dried up.
Axshually, some MIT researcher did a study plotting the outbreak of cases in NY and then overlaid it on the subway lines.
You'll never guess what he found. The subways are an absolute vector for contagion. Surprising absolutely nobody.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2020 12:24 PM
And that is why I have said that NYC is not actually being serious about this virus until they shut down the subway system.
Those places are the perfect breeding ground for disease like this and they aren't doing anything to stop that vector.
Problem is, they are a serious cash influx for the City and they are not going to turn off that revenue stream when almost every other source of $$$ has dried up.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 19, 2020 12:41 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 12:41 PM (mrrpT)
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They don't want a successful, inexpensive treatment
They don't want to see people recover
They don't want to open up the economy
They don't want this to end.
They don't want to see people recover
They don't want to open up the economy
They don't want this to end.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 12:41 PM (VRslY)
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The kung flu fascists seem to have a weird fixation with church meetings.
A parking lot meeting with windows rolled up seems a logical, creative and safe to meet but the fascists will not be denied their control.
A parking lot meeting with windows rolled up seems a logical, creative and safe to meet but the fascists will not be denied their control.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 19, 2020 12:41 PM (Uu+Jp)
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Out of curiosity, were the total deaths with Shelter in Place accounted for? I don't remember seeing anything about it, but that would be interesting to know if the car wrecks and what-not were taken into account.
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It is also plain logic - no interaction, no communicable diseases.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
"Obtuse" isn't just a term from geometry.
Posted by: Aero Pinochet at April 19, 2020 12:38 PM (miJU3)
If you want to continue with personal attacks, how about you use your real nick funnyman, and not hide like a pussy ?
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
"Obtuse" isn't just a term from geometry.
Posted by: Aero Pinochet at April 19, 2020 12:38 PM (miJU3)
If you want to continue with personal attacks, how about you use your real nick funnyman, and not hide like a pussy ?
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
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Big pharma hoping to stall for an expensive and mandatory treatment?
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That AND, "they" can't afford for Trump to be right about anything, especially about the Kung-flu. Just look at the way Nazi Pelosi is trying to score on this. It's obvious what's going on here.
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That AND, "they" can't afford for Trump to be right about anything, especially about the Kung-flu. Just look at the way Nazi Pelosi is trying to score on this. It's obvious what's going on here.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 12:42 PM (7Fj9P)
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Because surely there was a model dumbass hypothesis that someone made up for additional grant money for car wrecks, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:43 PM (IwDj9)
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Re the subways in New York, people living in the clouds must be served.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at April 19, 2020 12:43 PM (nFRLh)
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Actually, I was thinking this morning that I hadn't seen nearly as much of the anti-HCQ nonsense from the left recently. I suspect they've finally figured out how idiotic they look, and that voters will remember their attempts to exploit the situation, which may well have killed lots of people.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM
Daily Mail CNN Drugged Report all had stories today.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:18 PM
This is what the Left always does. Remember Rush Limbaugh's name for the media: Drive-By Media.
They report hysterical issues in drive-by fashion. They report the news in hysterical fashion in order to create hysteria in people, then the Leftists run with it on Twitter and other social media and then Hollywood and Democrat politicians run with it.
Meanwhile, the media just drives on by --- leaving the area in chaos for someone else to clean up --- and then off to the next issue they want to stir up people into a frenzy.
Actually, I was thinking this morning that I hadn't seen nearly as much of the anti-HCQ nonsense from the left recently. I suspect they've finally figured out how idiotic they look, and that voters will remember their attempts to exploit the situation, which may well have killed lots of people.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM
Daily Mail CNN Drugged Report all had stories today.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2020 12:18 PM
This is what the Left always does. Remember Rush Limbaugh's name for the media: Drive-By Media.
They report hysterical issues in drive-by fashion. They report the news in hysterical fashion in order to create hysteria in people, then the Leftists run with it on Twitter and other social media and then Hollywood and Democrat politicians run with it.
Meanwhile, the media just drives on by --- leaving the area in chaos for someone else to clean up --- and then off to the next issue they want to stir up people into a frenzy.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 12:43 PM (Do5/p)
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@103: "That isn't science, it's ego."
There's a disconnect between hard science where you can say something happens consistently, repeatedly, and by this formula, and other sciences where you're dealing with overlapping causes, mechanisms, and similar, but different outcomes.
Infectious diseases, and how they spread, has more in common with economic forecasting than basic mechanics.
Health research doesn't lean towards strict mechanics no matter how much the tenured staff and journal editors like to pretend it does.
There's a disconnect between hard science where you can say something happens consistently, repeatedly, and by this formula, and other sciences where you're dealing with overlapping causes, mechanisms, and similar, but different outcomes.
Infectious diseases, and how they spread, has more in common with economic forecasting than basic mechanics.
Health research doesn't lean towards strict mechanics no matter how much the tenured staff and journal editors like to pretend it does.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:43 PM (+oVP5)
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For myself, I'm more than willing to be confronted
by police or these totalitarian authorities for being a free American.
I'm already doing that at work with the rules the state university is
are trying to implement.
No. I'm not wearing a mask. No. I will not social-distance or any other absurd rule that means to separate me from others.
Posted by: Sooner at April 19, 2020 12:39 PM (Fs5vw)
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Good for you Sooner. It is way past time to fight back. I do the same.
I would add that I speak loudly to people out that this shit needs to end. Even the ones with masks on agree. Others say how they have lost 1 or 2 jobs and want it to end. It takes only one voice to speak out against this bullshit state tyranny to start the fire.
by police or these totalitarian authorities for being a free American.
I'm already doing that at work with the rules the state university is
are trying to implement.
No. I'm not wearing a mask. No. I will not social-distance or any other absurd rule that means to separate me from others.
Posted by: Sooner at April 19, 2020 12:39 PM (Fs5vw)
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Good for you Sooner. It is way past time to fight back. I do the same.
I would add that I speak loudly to people out that this shit needs to end. Even the ones with masks on agree. Others say how they have lost 1 or 2 jobs and want it to end. It takes only one voice to speak out against this bullshit state tyranny to start the fire.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM (pw+jk)
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I wonder if there would be grounds for a class action suit against the media for trying to deny the public access to a cheap treatment.
Almost certainly not but I can dream.
Almost certainly not but I can dream.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM (Uu+Jp)
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So, twitter suggested to me today a thread about Timothy McVeigh, which was full of leftists hand-wringing over the anti-government sentiment of the protests in Michigan and elsewhere. The Oklahoma city bombing happened on the second anniversary of the FBI's slaughter of US citizens in Waco.
In today's morning thread, someone reminded us that today is what originally was celebrated as Patriots' Day.
I'm ashamed to admit that this was the first time in 27 years that it occurred to me the Clinton FBI murdered all those people on the anniversary of Lexingon and Concord.
In today's morning thread, someone reminded us that today is what originally was celebrated as Patriots' Day.
I'm ashamed to admit that this was the first time in 27 years that it occurred to me the Clinton FBI murdered all those people on the anniversary of Lexingon and Concord.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM (VRslY)
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It's getting chippy in here!
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM (7Fj9P)
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Speaking of Mr Bill, https://tinyurl.com/y88k4fgm, snitches get bullets here in the 113th precinct.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 19, 2020 12:45 PM (4vNgL)
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If you submit a paper that doesn't fit the narrative, it won't be accepted. It gets trashed by the lords who rule a particular field. Which has a profound effect on what is considered "settled science" in all sorts of fields.
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The insistence on amyloid plaques as THE cause of Alzheimer's is an excellent example. People who tried to publish on other theories of causation were blackballed and their careers ruined. Eventually, people got the message and stopped trying to publish on other potential causes. Think how many lives were ruined as a result.
That isn't science, it's ego.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (T6t7i)
There's a guy on Youtube who tells the story of how he discovered the lab mice that are used for drug testing all come from the same breeding site. All these mice had a particular mutation not found in ordinary mice, that caused mice to not respond the way one would otherwise expect, when exposed to experimental medications.
This had profound effect on drug testing.
And not only would they not publish his work, eventually when it was put out, it was put out by the Nobel Prize winning scientist who was responsible for trashing his initial research.
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The insistence on amyloid plaques as THE cause of Alzheimer's is an excellent example. People who tried to publish on other theories of causation were blackballed and their careers ruined. Eventually, people got the message and stopped trying to publish on other potential causes. Think how many lives were ruined as a result.
That isn't science, it's ego.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (T6t7i)
There's a guy on Youtube who tells the story of how he discovered the lab mice that are used for drug testing all come from the same breeding site. All these mice had a particular mutation not found in ordinary mice, that caused mice to not respond the way one would otherwise expect, when exposed to experimental medications.
This had profound effect on drug testing.
And not only would they not publish his work, eventually when it was put out, it was put out by the Nobel Prize winning scientist who was responsible for trashing his initial research.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:45 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:45 PM (IwDj9)
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New York CityMayor Bill de Blasiotold New Yorkers Saturday that
they can snap smartphone photos of social distancing violations and text
them to authorities and "enforcement will come" as
thecoronavirusshutdown remains in place across the Big Apple.
"Now it is easier than ever," he said in a video posted to his
official Twitter account. "When you see a crowd, when you see a line
that's not distanced, when you see a supermarket that's too crowded -anything - you can report it right away so we can get help there to fix
the problem."
de Commio wants to go full East Germany and have the Stasi snitches report to him
New York CityMayor Bill de Blasiotold New Yorkers Saturday that
they can snap smartphone photos of social distancing violations and text
them to authorities and "enforcement will come" as
thecoronavirusshutdown remains in place across the Big Apple.
"Now it is easier than ever," he said in a video posted to his
official Twitter account. "When you see a crowd, when you see a line
that's not distanced, when you see a supermarket that's too crowded -anything - you can report it right away so we can get help there to fix
the problem."
de Commio wants to go full East Germany and have the Stasi snitches report to him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 19, 2020 12:45 PM (brrQ3)
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Old Commies never die, they just change municipalities and run as a Democrat.
Posted by: Fritz at April 19, 2020 12:46 PM (95j/9)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:46 PM (IwDj9)
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I've seen as many rednecks in Birch Bay over the 4th of July as anywhere else in the country.
Posted by: The Flu Manchurian Candidate at April 19, 2020 12:42 PM (8nEjv)
I'm convinced rednecks exist throughout the universe.
Posted by: The Flu Manchurian Candidate at April 19, 2020 12:42 PM (8nEjv)
I'm convinced rednecks exist throughout the universe.
Posted by: BignJames at April 19, 2020 12:46 PM (X/Pw5)
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:47 PM (zr5Kq)
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I'm ashamed to admit that this was the first time in
27 years that it occurred to me the Clinton FBI murdered all those
people on the anniversary of Lexingon and Concord.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM (kOpft)
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Tyrannical commies are real big on symbolism.. REAL BIG.
27 years that it occurred to me the Clinton FBI murdered all those
people on the anniversary of Lexingon and Concord.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM (kOpft)
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Tyrannical commies are real big on symbolism.. REAL BIG.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 19, 2020 12:48 PM (pw+jk)
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Actually, I was thinking this morning that I hadn't seen nearly as much of the anti-HCQ nonsense from the left recently. I suspect they've finally figured out how idiotic they look, and that voters will remember their attempts to exploit the situation, which may well have killed lots of people.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM (T6t7i)
PDJT's campaign needs to be making a list and checking it twice of how wrong -- vocally wrong -- the Dims and their fellow travelers have been during this event, particularly with respect to being on the wrong side of acts he took to fight the contagion.
> travel bans, particularly with China and the Chinese New Year
> closing the borders
> publicizing that HCQ and co-meds might work to stop the disease
> advocating a rational return to a functioning economy vs cowering in place for further months or years
> instructing in how federalism works vs their calls for him to seize the reins for powers he does not have under the Constitution
Actually, I was thinking this morning that I hadn't seen nearly as much of the anti-HCQ nonsense from the left recently. I suspect they've finally figured out how idiotic they look, and that voters will remember their attempts to exploit the situation, which may well have killed lots of people.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:15 PM (T6t7i)
PDJT's campaign needs to be making a list and checking it twice of how wrong -- vocally wrong -- the Dims and their fellow travelers have been during this event, particularly with respect to being on the wrong side of acts he took to fight the contagion.
> travel bans, particularly with China and the Chinese New Year
> closing the borders
> publicizing that HCQ and co-meds might work to stop the disease
> advocating a rational return to a functioning economy vs cowering in place for further months or years
> instructing in how federalism works vs their calls for him to seize the reins for powers he does not have under the Constitution
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2020 12:48 PM (pNxlR)
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BREAKING: Chattanooga mayor Andy Berke has backed off his previous executive order criminalizing Christian worship and assembly. He has issued a new executive order retracting his previous executive order after "consulting with religious leaders." And, ahem, after consulting with legal counsel. Bullies like Berke just need a good punch in the face and they will fold. Let's not stop punching back.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at April 19, 2020 12:48 PM (d9Cw3)
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The mass transportation is probably the NYers major problem. But Leftists who love that will never admit it.
Just got started turning over the dirt in the garden, at least its a start.
Just got started turning over the dirt in the garden, at least its a start.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 12:48 PM (ZCEU2)
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If anything, lower death toll stats support the stay at home. It is also plain logic - no interaction, no communicable diseases.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
In real world problem solving that is called the Trivial Solution.
What to reduce traffic fatalities on this road?
Close the road!
To some it may seem a rational choice.
To those more enlightened it is just moving all the dials to zero.
A better analogy for the Kung Flu,
Hey doctor, it hurts when I do this.
DR: Then don't do that.
Even a little kid can see that it is laughably absurd.
It is not intelligent,
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:14 PM (zr5Kq)
In real world problem solving that is called the Trivial Solution.
What to reduce traffic fatalities on this road?
Close the road!
To some it may seem a rational choice.
To those more enlightened it is just moving all the dials to zero.
A better analogy for the Kung Flu,
Hey doctor, it hurts when I do this.
DR: Then don't do that.
Even a little kid can see that it is laughably absurd.
It is not intelligent,
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 12:49 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: banned cosmology at April 19, 2020 12:50 PM (3dzLq)
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BREAKING: Chattanooga mayor Andy Berke has backed off his previous executive order criminalizing Christian worship and assembly. He has issued a new executive order retracting his previous executive order after "consulting with religious leaders."
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How does that work, anyway? That's great and all, but that toothpaste was already squeezed out of the tube. Can the lawsuit still continue, or will a judge say "oh, you showed him! Look at how he gave you all of your civil rights back after only violating them that one time!"
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How does that work, anyway? That's great and all, but that toothpaste was already squeezed out of the tube. Can the lawsuit still continue, or will a judge say "oh, you showed him! Look at how he gave you all of your civil rights back after only violating them that one time!"
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:50 PM (IwDj9)
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Cuomo's cheese is sliding
Posted by: REDACTED at April 19, 2020 12:50 PM (rpxSz)
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Sorry if that last post seemed more pointed than it was. I wasn't trying to attack or argue, just comment.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (IwDj9)
Sure, no problem. Comment away.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:36 PM (IwDj9)
Sure, no problem. Comment away.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:50 PM (zr5Kq)
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142 BREAKING: Chattanooga mayor Andy Berke has backed off his previous executive order criminalizing Christian worship and assembly. He has issued a new executive order retracting his previous executive order after "consulting with religious leaders." And, ahem, after consulting with legal counsel. Bullies like Berke just need a good punch in the face and they will fold. Let's not stop punching back.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton
Hmmm. The week before Ramadan. Go
Figure
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton
Hmmm. The week before Ramadan. Go
Figure
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 12:50 PM (VRslY)
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Any other small business owners in the crowd who have got their loan approval?
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 12:50 PM (mrrpT)
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Rather than picking on Karens by name, perhaps the more accurate hashtag for such obsequious shitweasels would be #IAmTheStasi
Rather than picking on Karens by name, perhaps the more accurate hashtag for such obsequious shitweasels would be #IAmTheStasi
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (pNxlR)
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If you want to continue with personal attacks, how about you use your real nick funnyman, and not hide like a pussy ?
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
Meh. I just forgot to remove a sock. And It's your post that was obtuse. If it had been framed better, I would mostly agree with it.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
Meh. I just forgot to remove a sock. And It's your post that was obtuse. If it had been framed better, I would mostly agree with it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (miJU3)
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I think it's either TJM or CBD who is fond of saying we could reduce traffic deaths to zero if we'd only install a foot-long spike facing out from the steering wheel.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (IwDj9)
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we need rednecks, a lot more.
Posted by: Quint at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (hHxp2)
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Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (0Gva/)
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Out of curiosity, were the total deaths with Shelter in Place accounted for? I don't remember seeing anything about it, but that would be interesting to know if the car wrecks and what-not were taken into account.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:42 PM (IwDj9)
You know what's going to be really interesting? Seeing all the stress related deaths that swamp the world in the next six months to a year.
No one will ever know for sure, but I believe it will dwarf the number of deaths from China virus. And it will dwarf the number we would ordinarily see from car accidents too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:42 PM (IwDj9)
You know what's going to be really interesting? Seeing all the stress related deaths that swamp the world in the next six months to a year.
No one will ever know for sure, but I believe it will dwarf the number of deaths from China virus. And it will dwarf the number we would ordinarily see from car accidents too.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (hku12)
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The patchwork of different levels of "distancing" and mandatory masks for some an not others, the wide disparity between different states public health orders merely serves to highlight the arbitrary and capricious nature of 'government'.
Arbitrary, capricious and one might add vindictive.
Arbitrary, capricious and one might add vindictive.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2020 12:52 PM (Fc5rx)
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In real world problem solving that is called the Trivial Solution.
What to reduce traffic fatalities on this road?
Close the road!
To some it may seem a rational choice.
To those more enlightened it is just moving all the dials to zero.
A better analogy for the Kung Flu,
Hey doctor, it hurts when I do this.
DR: Then don't do that.
Even a little kid can see that it is laughably absurd.
It is not intelligent,
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 12:49 PM (1g7ch)
You missed the part where I said I was not arguing for or against the wisdom of various flavors of stay at home orders, didn't you.
What to reduce traffic fatalities on this road?
Close the road!
To some it may seem a rational choice.
To those more enlightened it is just moving all the dials to zero.
A better analogy for the Kung Flu,
Hey doctor, it hurts when I do this.
DR: Then don't do that.
Even a little kid can see that it is laughably absurd.
It is not intelligent,
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 12:49 PM (1g7ch)
You missed the part where I said I was not arguing for or against the wisdom of various flavors of stay at home orders, didn't you.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:52 PM (zr5Kq)
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Cuomo's cheese is sliding
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His dominatrix is probably toying with his remote controlled vibrating butt plug. You know, the same one who made him get nipple rings.
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His dominatrix is probably toying with his remote controlled vibrating butt plug. You know, the same one who made him get nipple rings.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 12:52 PM (7Fj9P)
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Any other small business owners in the crowd who have got their loan approval?
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 12:50 PM (mrrpT)
Nope. And not way to find out my status either. It is a deep dark hole
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 12:50 PM (mrrpT)
Nope. And not way to find out my status either. It is a deep dark hole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:53 PM (85Gof)
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It sure is weird I haven't heard one damn thing about mosques not having the ability to meet.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 19, 2020 12:53 PM (r+sAi)
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@159: "You know, the same one who made him get nipple rings."
Same one who makes Chris watch quietly in the corner.
Same one who makes Chris watch quietly in the corner.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:53 PM (+oVP5)
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They don't want a successful, inexpensive treatment
They don't want to see people recover
They don't want to open up the economy
They don't want this to end.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 12:41 PM (VRslY)
Yes, they are the enemy within. No hyperbole.
They don't want a successful, inexpensive treatment
They don't want to see people recover
They don't want to open up the economy
They don't want this to end.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 12:41 PM (VRslY)
Yes, they are the enemy within. No hyperbole.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2020 12:53 PM (pNxlR)
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I get how some named Karen or those who have friends and family named Karen would not like it. But that it is net era we joined with relish. I keep telling people it sucks but they wont buy it. Think of how Michael Bolton felt in that movie.
Posted by: Quint at April 19, 2020 12:53 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: freaked at April 19, 2020 12:54 PM (Tnijr)
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Gov Cuomo just had his daily press briefing at the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research in Manhasset NY (or Long Island. Their facility is at the base of "Spinney Hill" Which was Jim Brown (the legendary NFL running back).
https://feinstein.northwell.edu/
They will be doing antibody testing.
This is the kind of testing Dr. Birx has been droning on about at the daily Cornavirus briefings. The type of testing that she said they had one million test kits ready to go, they just needed the dumbass governors to use their high capacity machines and not focus entirely on whether the person currently has the virus.
Of course that means he needed to get his head out of his butt and listen when Dr. Birx told him what was available.
It seems someone has smacked him upside the head with a 2x4 and he will now get the testing needed to re-open New York State.
POTUS will have a field day at today's White House briefing.
https://feinstein.northwell.edu/
They will be doing antibody testing.
This is the kind of testing Dr. Birx has been droning on about at the daily Cornavirus briefings. The type of testing that she said they had one million test kits ready to go, they just needed the dumbass governors to use their high capacity machines and not focus entirely on whether the person currently has the virus.
Of course that means he needed to get his head out of his butt and listen when Dr. Birx told him what was available.
It seems someone has smacked him upside the head with a 2x4 and he will now get the testing needed to re-open New York State.
POTUS will have a field day at today's White House briefing.
Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at April 19, 2020 12:54 PM (EMi53)
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People get the leaders they deserve. NYC deserves DBag and Cuomo. America deserves better, and we got Trump.
Posted by: Regular joe at April 19, 2020 12:55 PM (6/uwW)
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No loan but I got all my debt forgiven.
No wait never mind I paid it off myself.
Posted by: freaked at April 19, 2020 12:54 PM (Tnijr)
LOL
No wait never mind I paid it off myself.
Posted by: freaked at April 19, 2020 12:54 PM (Tnijr)
LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:55 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2020 12:55 PM (dLLD6)
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And it got me thinking of how politics has basically infected every area of every industry. Hollywood/entertainment, schools, universities, journalism that has nothing to do with politics, etc.
And, because of that, people aren't actually focusing on their actual jobs. They're too busy infusing their political opinions into their non-political jobs.
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Careful with that thought - someone may say that with YOU it is always about politics when there should just be a law....
To totalitarians the law is like water to a fish.
And, because of that, people aren't actually focusing on their actual jobs. They're too busy infusing their political opinions into their non-political jobs.
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Careful with that thought - someone may say that with YOU it is always about politics when there should just be a law....
To totalitarians the law is like water to a fish.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 12:55 PM (1g7ch)
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36 I wonder if the greater "Church" knows that they have sustained a serious wound to faith. If you believe in the Nicean Creed how can the church close? How can we trust in God if the Church does not? Huddling in fear and not resisting this awful attack on faith is disheartning. I pray God forgives us...
Okay- I'm a Catholic , so ymmv.
Church didn't "close". Priests were still offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass daily. Just without a congregation, which they are allowed to do.
We have precedents for this in plagues, for centuries.
Priests are still hearing necessary confessions and administering other sacraments, as needed.
Right now, this is a pause in ordinary parish life. If it turns into something else- we have examples for how to deal with that, as well.
Okay- I'm a Catholic , so ymmv.
Church didn't "close". Priests were still offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass daily. Just without a congregation, which they are allowed to do.
We have precedents for this in plagues, for centuries.
Priests are still hearing necessary confessions and administering other sacraments, as needed.
Right now, this is a pause in ordinary parish life. If it turns into something else- we have examples for how to deal with that, as well.
Posted by: Sal at April 19, 2020 12:55 PM (bo8pf)
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Harmeet K. Dhillon
@pnjaban
I'm spending my weekend drafting more civil rights lawsuits against government overreach. Reasonable precautions are one thing; harassment, bullying, arbitrary petty rule making, & enforced poverty/property theft another thing altogether, & citizens/businesses need to fight back!
https://twitter.com/pnjaban/status/
1251607429193723904
Harmeet K. Dhillon
@pnjaban
I'm spending my weekend drafting more civil rights lawsuits against government overreach. Reasonable precautions are one thing; harassment, bullying, arbitrary petty rule making, & enforced poverty/property theft another thing altogether, & citizens/businesses need to fight back!
https://twitter.com/pnjaban/status/
1251607429193723904
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 19, 2020 12:55 PM (G546f)
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No one will ever know for sure, but I believe it will dwarf the number of deaths from China virus. And it will dwarf the number we would ordinarily see from car accidents too.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (hku12)
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Yep, the panic is going to hurt the under-60 crowd a lot worse and a lot longer than the COVID itself ever would. Everyone from little kids to 50 year olds are going to take a long, sh*tty mental beating - and get first row seats to watch a lot of suicides, alcoholism, drug use, divorces, etc. - for the next decade or so.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (hku12)
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Yep, the panic is going to hurt the under-60 crowd a lot worse and a lot longer than the COVID itself ever would. Everyone from little kids to 50 year olds are going to take a long, sh*tty mental beating - and get first row seats to watch a lot of suicides, alcoholism, drug use, divorces, etc. - for the next decade or so.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:55 PM (IwDj9)
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Meh. I just forgot to remove a sock. And It's your post that was obtuse. If it had been framed better, I would mostly agree with it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (miJU3)
You need to stop with personal attacks AOP. Not the first time. Hope it is the last. Sounds juvenile when you do do it. "You are a poopoo head" is not an argument. Give it your best shot, use grown up arguments, not some emotional babble.
Meh. I just forgot to remove a sock. And It's your post that was obtuse. If it had been framed better, I would mostly agree with it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (miJU3)
You need to stop with personal attacks AOP. Not the first time. Hope it is the last. Sounds juvenile when you do do it. "You are a poopoo head" is not an argument. Give it your best shot, use grown up arguments, not some emotional babble.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:56 PM (zr5Kq)
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Why does Cuomo get a daily nationally televised briefing? Why don't I see the governors of Idaho and South Dakota on every day or ever? And if it is because things are way worse in NY, should not that be the preface to every briefing? We are showing this guy because out of fifty states, his is doing the worst.
Posted by: Quint at April 19, 2020 12:56 PM (hHxp2)
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Schumer defends adding demands to small business relief because they are now going into the bill
Not even sure what that incoherent asshole means, so says the man still getting his paycheck
Not even sure what that incoherent asshole means, so says the man still getting his paycheck
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:57 PM (85Gof)
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Nope. And not way to find out my status either. It is a deep dark hole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:53 PM (85Gof)
Here's the SBA number I called this morning after my first loan came through. The foreigner who answered check the status of my other 2 loans and verified they were in process. They work on Sunday, but be prepared to spend a long time on hold.
1-800-659-2955
Have your application number ready.
Nope. And not way to find out my status either. It is a deep dark hole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:53 PM (85Gof)
Here's the SBA number I called this morning after my first loan came through. The foreigner who answered check the status of my other 2 loans and verified they were in process. They work on Sunday, but be prepared to spend a long time on hold.
1-800-659-2955
Have your application number ready.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 12:58 PM (mrrpT)
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@172: "We are showing this guy because out of fifty states, his is doing the worst."
And his brother is a prime time cable news celebrity.
And his brother is a prime time cable news celebrity.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:58 PM (+oVP5)
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I'm beginning to think I had it the last week or so. Mild upset stomach (and couldn't brush my teeth without gagging), feeling dragged out, sleeping more than usual, little to no appetite -- and then this morning, woke up feeling like myself again.
On a Sunday, at that -- Thank you, Lord!
On a Sunday, at that -- Thank you, Lord!
Posted by: Empire1 at April 19, 2020 12:58 PM (T8YHO)
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"Why does Cuomo get a daily nationally televised
briefing?
Posted by: Quint"
Maybe because he is Biden's preferred replacement?
briefing?
Posted by: Quint"
Maybe because he is Biden's preferred replacement?
Posted by: Ripley at April 19, 2020 12:59 PM (MxEKc)
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Here's the SBA number I called this morning after my first loan came through. The foreigner who answered check the status of my other 2 loans and verified they were in process. They work on Sunday, but be prepared to spend a long time on hold.
1-800-659-2955
Have your application number ready.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 12:58 PM (mrrpT)
My loans are now in the hands of my bank BOA and there is no way to contact them.
1-800-659-2955
Have your application number ready.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 12:58 PM (mrrpT)
My loans are now in the hands of my bank BOA and there is no way to contact them.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:59 PM (85Gof)
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AOP saw your ONT question about a wall, is it floor to ceiling and if so metal studs, rock one side as you said and 1/4 plywood or whatever cheaper the other side. If weatherproof is needed use sheet plastic.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:00 PM (ZCEU2)
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I applaud these pastors for defying the government by holding church services. Not sure the Catholics could do drive throughs but it sure would be nice if we could at least gather in our cars to pray in one place. Our Archbishop has closed down Masses because he fears the elderly (i.e. the faithful who show up every Sunday) would not take his permission and stay home. The trouble is, when does it end? When will he feel it will be safe enough to open the doors? This is when we need Holy Mother Church the most. Try as I might, I think the AB will have a hard time digging himself out the hole he has dug.
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at April 19, 2020 01:00 PM (Vf4Y7)
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My loans are now in the hands of my bank BOA and there is no way to contact them.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:59 PM (85Gof)
Did you fill out the SBA form online?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:59 PM (85Gof)
Did you fill out the SBA form online?
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:00 PM (mrrpT)
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175 @172: "We are showing this guy because out of fifty states, his is doing the worst."
And his brother is a prime time cable news celebrity.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:58 PM (+oVP5)
Both are adept at tripping on their dicks. And the Guv cried "wolf" too loud and too often. Ads opposing him if he runs for national office have reels of film ready to put into play.
175 @172: "We are showing this guy because out of fifty states, his is doing the worst."
And his brother is a prime time cable news celebrity.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 12:58 PM (+oVP5)
Both are adept at tripping on their dicks. And the Guv cried "wolf" too loud and too often. Ads opposing him if he runs for national office have reels of film ready to put into play.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2020 01:01 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:01 PM (85Gof)
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That sidebar piece on the Stanford antibody study is triggering some people almost as bad as Trump's chloroquine mention.
You've got 'statisticians' who are pulling numbers out of their asses about not liking the sampling method the testers used (random selection of Facebook recipients) and making all kinds of silly 'adjustments' based on this supposedly overrepresenting middle age white women (yes, that's really the claim).
You've got 'statisticians' who are pulling numbers out of their asses about not liking the sampling method the testers used (random selection of Facebook recipients) and making all kinds of silly 'adjustments' based on this supposedly overrepresenting middle age white women (yes, that's really the claim).
Posted by: JEM at April 19, 2020 01:01 PM (8erNz)
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112
As opposed to modeling WuhanFlu, we know exactly how many died in traffic accident every year and exactly how many died of seasonal flu every year. We do not need models and do not need to "project" what would happen if there are empty highways.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:39 PM
I don't think we know exactly how many people die of seasonal flu every year. Which is why the CDC always posts ranges for infections, hospitalizations and deaths every year.
i.e. 2018-2019 estimated deaths from seasonal flu are "26,339 - 52,664" or a median estimate of 34,157.
https://bit.ly/3cpfjMe
As opposed to modeling WuhanFlu, we know exactly how many died in traffic accident every year and exactly how many died of seasonal flu every year. We do not need models and do not need to "project" what would happen if there are empty highways.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:39 PM
I don't think we know exactly how many people die of seasonal flu every year. Which is why the CDC always posts ranges for infections, hospitalizations and deaths every year.
i.e. 2018-2019 estimated deaths from seasonal flu are "26,339 - 52,664" or a median estimate of 34,157.
https://bit.ly/3cpfjMe
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:01 PM (Do5/p)
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Oh, and I'm 76, with controlled high blood pressure.
Posted by: Empire1 at April 19, 2020 01:01 PM (T8YHO)
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Why does Cuomo get a daily nationally televised briefing?
I knew the game was rigged when they started showing commercials for Crazy Fredo's Ventilator Emporium.
I knew the game was rigged when they started showing commercials for Crazy Fredo's Ventilator Emporium.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - picking through a cabinet of liquor at April 19, 2020 01:02 PM (xYFRc)
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In today's morning thread, someone reminded us that today is what originally was celebrated as Patriots' Day.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM
Still a thing here in MA, although given the state of our government, it's become just the second most holy of the High Hack Holidays.
Some of us remember, though.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM
Still a thing here in MA, although given the state of our government, it's become just the second most holy of the High Hack Holidays.
Some of us remember, though.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2020 01:02 PM (rBtIz)
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Not even sure what that incoherent asshole means, so says the man still getting his paycheck
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I thought the D obstruction was b/c pork and $$'s for mail-in election fraud?
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I thought the D obstruction was b/c pork and $$'s for mail-in election fraud?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 01:02 PM (7Fj9P)
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People get the leaders they deserve.
Funny, I don't feel like I deserved eight years of Obama. Or eight years of Bush the Second.
Funny, I don't feel like I deserved eight years of Obama. Or eight years of Bush the Second.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 19, 2020 01:02 PM (H5knJ)
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Hans Mahncke @HansMahncke
55m
Former Australian PM finally confirms that Downer took things into his own hands:
"He had no authority from Canberra to do this, and the first we heard of it in Australia was when the FBI turned up in London and wanted to interview Downer."
*******
https://bit.ly/3aglosY
55m
Former Australian PM finally confirms that Downer took things into his own hands:
"He had no authority from Canberra to do this, and the first we heard of it in Australia was when the FBI turned up in London and wanted to interview Downer."
*******
https://bit.ly/3aglosY
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 19, 2020 01:02 PM (0Gva/)
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All of a sudden!, there is a whole bunch of new-found criticism of the foibles of STEM and its practitioners. I'm shocked.
Amid all the extra rabid vitriol being expended on the old Humanities Departments, at least a couple have realized that it was dick-dribbling on the part of fully credentialed Scientists who drove us off this cliff. In fact, the Resistance that has sprung up here in the last week? Are thinking like a bunch of English majors. There, I said it.
If the Big-Power Science complex had been able to deliver what nine out of ten regular folks thought they were in charge of, there would have been effective treatments, maybe even a cure, with the scope of a two-week quarantine. All the rest of this bitchy belly-aching and wishing for grandpa to die quicker is just a smokescreen for the total failure of Big Science.
Almost certainly the STEMmies will now need to find enough coloreds and women to shift blame and validate themselves, like with the Florida foot bridge. Number-crunching cubicle jockeys will never get to lord it over the rest of the human race again, in however long this lifetime lasts.
Amid all the extra rabid vitriol being expended on the old Humanities Departments, at least a couple have realized that it was dick-dribbling on the part of fully credentialed Scientists who drove us off this cliff. In fact, the Resistance that has sprung up here in the last week? Are thinking like a bunch of English majors. There, I said it.
If the Big-Power Science complex had been able to deliver what nine out of ten regular folks thought they were in charge of, there would have been effective treatments, maybe even a cure, with the scope of a two-week quarantine. All the rest of this bitchy belly-aching and wishing for grandpa to die quicker is just a smokescreen for the total failure of Big Science.
Almost certainly the STEMmies will now need to find enough coloreds and women to shift blame and validate themselves, like with the Florida foot bridge. Number-crunching cubicle jockeys will never get to lord it over the rest of the human race again, in however long this lifetime lasts.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 19, 2020 01:03 PM (8IOEj)
193
"The lawsuit claims the city of Chattanooga violated the First and Fourteenth Amendments and there is no justification for banning drive-in services. "
This makes the cold, black, vaguely heart shaped space at the bottom of my soul, smile. For that mean place hears the whispers....
Whispering voices saying. "Soon. Soon we shall be heard. And all who refuse to heed, will kneel before us, trembling in fear and begging for mercy.".
This makes the cold, black, vaguely heart shaped space at the bottom of my soul, smile. For that mean place hears the whispers....
Whispering voices saying. "Soon. Soon we shall be heard. And all who refuse to heed, will kneel before us, trembling in fear and begging for mercy.".
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 19, 2020 01:04 PM (myjNJ)
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Except there's no data that indicates stay at home orders reduced the death rate.
Zero. None.
People are dealing with superstitions, and the Science Industrial
Complex is likely not going to do anything to correct any of those
beliefs.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)
+1
"If I do what government tells me to it'll be all right" is about as useful a position to take as throwing salt over your shoulder.
Zero. None.
People are dealing with superstitions, and the Science Industrial
Complex is likely not going to do anything to correct any of those
beliefs.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)
+1
"If I do what government tells me to it'll be all right" is about as useful a position to take as throwing salt over your shoulder.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 01:06 PM (kOpft)
195
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
6m
Nervous Nancy is an inherently "dumb" person. She wasted all of her time on the Impeachment Hoax. She will be overthrown, either by inside or out, just like her last time as "Speaker". Wallace & @FoxNews are on a bad path, watch!
6m
Nervous Nancy is an inherently "dumb" person. She wasted all of her time on the Impeachment Hoax. She will be overthrown, either by inside or out, just like her last time as "Speaker". Wallace & @FoxNews are on a bad path, watch!
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 19, 2020 01:06 PM (0Gva/)
196
All these mice had a particular mutation not found in ordinary mice
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HAHAHA
Yay Science.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:46 PM (IwDj9)
It's always important to remember, when the instruments of science are pointed at something, even if they are used with care and precision, are only pointing at one spot on a 360 degree circle.
What we know, based on our measurements, are always only ever a tiny blip in a vast universe of ignorance.
Science is a human tool. Sometimes useful. Often only ever as useful as the people who use it, and never even close to the whole truth. People who place all their faith in science are no more or less superstitious than anyone else.
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HAHAHA
Yay Science.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:46 PM (IwDj9)
It's always important to remember, when the instruments of science are pointed at something, even if they are used with care and precision, are only pointing at one spot on a 360 degree circle.
What we know, based on our measurements, are always only ever a tiny blip in a vast universe of ignorance.
Science is a human tool. Sometimes useful. Often only ever as useful as the people who use it, and never even close to the whole truth. People who place all their faith in science are no more or less superstitious than anyone else.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:06 PM (hku12)
197
And since this thread started with lefty oppression of the faithful, to all of you Orthodox Morons out there,
CHRIST IS RISEN!
CHRIST IS RISEN!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2020 01:06 PM (rBtIz)
198
AOP saw your ONT question about a wall, is it floor to ceiling and if so metal studs, rock one side as you said and 1/4 plywood or whatever cheaper the other side. If weatherproof is needed use sheet plastic.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:00 PM (ZCEU2)
Thank you, Skip. No, it's wooden studs. But I have decided what to do: cover the back side of the wall sections with tar paper, stapled to the studs and plates, and then nail some thin wooden battens at intervals over the tar paper to give it added support. The wall is not exposed to the weather, but air currents between the mobile and the add-on structures are ever-present. And I think tarpaper is somewhat vermin-resistant, too.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:00 PM (ZCEU2)
Thank you, Skip. No, it's wooden studs. But I have decided what to do: cover the back side of the wall sections with tar paper, stapled to the studs and plates, and then nail some thin wooden battens at intervals over the tar paper to give it added support. The wall is not exposed to the weather, but air currents between the mobile and the add-on structures are ever-present. And I think tarpaper is somewhat vermin-resistant, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2020 01:06 PM (miJU3)
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 01:07 PM (T6t7i)
200
Warren Wilhelm Jr. is proof that New Yawk City is full of selfish moochers who love voting in their favorite looter.
And his old lady is even worse.
Start spreading the news.....
And his old lady is even worse.
Start spreading the news.....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 19, 2020 01:07 PM (Z+IKu)
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@192: "Number-crunching cubicle jockeys will never get to lord it over the rest of the human race again, in however long this lifetime lasts."
No more than a handful of junior cubicle jockeys will lose their jobs, and next time cable news or prestige newspapers need a "scientist" to confirm pre-existing narratives, the exact same people will be quoted like they've never made a mistake.
No more than a handful of junior cubicle jockeys will lose their jobs, and next time cable news or prestige newspapers need a "scientist" to confirm pre-existing narratives, the exact same people will be quoted like they've never made a mistake.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 01:07 PM (+oVP5)
202
This makes the cold, black, vaguely heart shaped
space at the bottom of my soul, smile. For that mean place hears
the whispers....
Whispering voices saying. "Soon. Soon we shall be heard. And all who
refuse to heed, will kneel before us, trembling in fear and begging for
mercy.".
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 19, 2020 01:04 PM (myjNJ)
Cut, jib, newsletter
space at the bottom of my soul, smile. For that mean place hears
the whispers....
Whispering voices saying. "Soon. Soon we shall be heard. And all who
refuse to heed, will kneel before us, trembling in fear and begging for
mercy.".
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 19, 2020 01:04 PM (myjNJ)
Cut, jib, newsletter
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 19, 2020 01:07 PM (a4xU3)
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yes
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:01 PM (85Gof)
If you filled out the form:
"Federal Disaster Loans for Businesses, Private Non-Profits, Homeowners and Renters"
"Covid-19 Economic Injury Disaster Loan Application"
Then almost immediately you should have received an "Application Submitted" reply to your email with a 10 digit application number.
Then, they will send you a "application approved" email and deposit up to $10K in the account you gave them. After that, it took about 2 weeks for my loan approval to come through. You just click on the "accept terms" button and it's all but done.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:01 PM (85Gof)
If you filled out the form:
"Federal Disaster Loans for Businesses, Private Non-Profits, Homeowners and Renters"
"Covid-19 Economic Injury Disaster Loan Application"
Then almost immediately you should have received an "Application Submitted" reply to your email with a 10 digit application number.
Then, they will send you a "application approved" email and deposit up to $10K in the account you gave them. After that, it took about 2 weeks for my loan approval to come through. You just click on the "accept terms" button and it's all but done.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:08 PM (mrrpT)
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Meghan Markle to give first TV interview since Megxit
Talk about tone deaf...this broad is a walking disaster. Good luck harry
Talk about tone deaf...this broad is a walking disaster. Good luck harry
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:08 PM (85Gof)
205
From this time forward, Nanzi Pelosi should be pelted with pints of ice cream whenever she shows her face in public.
From this time forward, Nanzi Pelosi should be pelted with pints of ice cream whenever she shows her face in public.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2020 01:08 PM (pNxlR)
206
Alex Berenson @AlexBerenson
2h
From a physician in Indiana who has signed and reviewed death certificates for almost 50 years: "doctors are using death by COVID-19 as a convenient diagnosis..." No !! it is getting them Gubment Money for every Hong Kong Fluey Death
2h
From a physician in Indiana who has signed and reviewed death certificates for almost 50 years: "doctors are using death by COVID-19 as a convenient diagnosis..." No !! it is getting them Gubment Money for every Hong Kong Fluey Death
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 19, 2020 01:08 PM (0Gva/)
207
When do Muzzies hit the mosque? I'd like to do a drive by of one a few miles away, and see if they're flaunting the big gathering thing. Then call the health department and the cops and report the address.
HI-larity would ensue.
Or wouldn't.
HI-larity would ensue.
Or wouldn't.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (7Fj9P)
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Schumer defends adding demands to small business relief because they are now going into the bill
Not even sure what that incoherent asshole means, so says the man still getting his paycheck
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:57 PM (85Gof)
The $2.2 trillion bill he and Nancy held hostage for days? Backfired partly because senators were around and waiting to vote and the PR was really bad.
Need to add more money for the small business relief? Let's do another round of hold a bill hostage to add money for other things! This time around, the vast majority of senators left town weeks ago (the Senate will pass it first). There's the leverage to get the administration to negotiate something with them. Work something out with us and we'll let that small business funding bill, with some extras, pass by consent or voice vote.
Not even sure what that incoherent asshole means, so says the man still getting his paycheck
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 12:57 PM (85Gof)
The $2.2 trillion bill he and Nancy held hostage for days? Backfired partly because senators were around and waiting to vote and the PR was really bad.
Need to add more money for the small business relief? Let's do another round of hold a bill hostage to add money for other things! This time around, the vast majority of senators left town weeks ago (the Senate will pass it first). There's the leverage to get the administration to negotiate something with them. Work something out with us and we'll let that small business funding bill, with some extras, pass by consent or voice vote.
Posted by: Vendette at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (SIXRk)
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Does Soros pay time and a half on weekends?
Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (41rs/)
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Posted by: Way, Way Downriver
Switch to decaf.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 01:07 PM
There are a lot of brands out there that are just as tasty as the real thing.
Switch to decaf.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 01:07 PM
There are a lot of brands out there that are just as tasty as the real thing.
Posted by: Chris Knight at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (rBtIz)
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And since this thread started with lefty oppression of the faithful, to all of you Orthodox Morons out there,
CHRIST IS RISEN!
How do the Orthodox calculate Easter? I know Christmas is different in different traditions but Christmas' date is arbitrary. Easter is the first Sunday (after the first Monday?) after the first full moon after the Equinox.
It's science, bitches.
CHRIST IS RISEN!
How do the Orthodox calculate Easter? I know Christmas is different in different traditions but Christmas' date is arbitrary. Easter is the first Sunday (after the first Monday?) after the first full moon after the Equinox.
It's science, bitches.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (gd9RK)
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Schumer defends adding demands to small business relief because they are now going into the bill
EQUALS
REPUBLICANS CAVE IN AGAIN.
I won't be surprised if the republicans give the donkeys more than what they were asking for. In fact, I expect it.
EQUALS
REPUBLICANS CAVE IN AGAIN.
I won't be surprised if the republicans give the donkeys more than what they were asking for. In fact, I expect it.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (pw+jk)
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Univ of Minnesota on mask efficacy, https://tinyurl.com/yb9bdzs3. N95 or useless
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (4vNgL)
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Anyone watch the fascist tv network presentation of fake news and propaganda, last night?
The simulcast of abc, nbc, and cbs inluded the fake late night comedians offering viewers a mix of fake news and fake entertainment. The 3 minutes I watched was pathetic and boring.
I happened to tune in the exact time Paul McCartney was on. He sounded and looked HORRIBLE. So that's nice.
Anyone watch the fascist tv network presentation of fake news and propaganda, last night?
The simulcast of abc, nbc, and cbs inluded the fake late night comedians offering viewers a mix of fake news and fake entertainment. The 3 minutes I watched was pathetic and boring.
I happened to tune in the exact time Paul McCartney was on. He sounded and looked HORRIBLE. So that's nice.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:10 PM (ir0g0)
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Then, they will send you a "application approved" email and deposit up to $10K in the account you gave them. After that, it took about 2 weeks for my loan approval to come through. You just click on the "accept terms" button and it's all but done.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:08 PM (mrrpT)
I go the application submitted email with my confirmation number then zippo
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:08 PM (mrrpT)
I go the application submitted email with my confirmation number then zippo
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:10 PM (85Gof)
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From this time forward, Nanzi Pelosi should be pelted with pints of ice cream whenever she shows her face in public.
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Would you like our recipe for milkshakes?
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Would you like our recipe for milkshakes?
Posted by: Antifa Pussies at April 19, 2020 01:10 PM (7Fj9P)
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Rather than picking on Karens by name, perhaps the more accurate hashtag for such obsequious shitweasels would be #IAmTheStasi
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (pNxlR)
I hear Karen in Ray Liotta's voice in Goodfellas. Karen!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (pNxlR)
I hear Karen in Ray Liotta's voice in Goodfellas. Karen!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 19, 2020 01:10 PM (a4xU3)
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Cuomo is rambling during his briefing.
Really strange.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 12:41 PM (mrrpT)
So it's a day ending in"Y"?
Really strange.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 12:41 PM (mrrpT)
So it's a day ending in"Y"?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM (CqE5x)
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the exact same people will be quoted like they've never made a mistake.
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No sh*t, the "we've only got 11 years!!!" nonsense that the global warming cultists keep spouting is taken from a piece written in 1989.
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No sh*t, the "we've only got 11 years!!!" nonsense that the global warming cultists keep spouting is taken from a piece written in 1989.
Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM (41rs/)
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Tar paper will work, lap 6", battens just above joints
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Empire1 at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM (T8YHO)
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Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 19, 2020 01:03 PM (8IOEj)
Mostly, the vitriol here is expended upon the New Humanities Departments, that teach Grievance Studies and Post-Modernism to the complete exclusion of the old Liberal Arts.
And even STEM subjects are becoming infected.
Mostly, the vitriol here is expended upon the New Humanities Departments, that teach Grievance Studies and Post-Modernism to the complete exclusion of the old Liberal Arts.
And even STEM subjects are becoming infected.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM (miJU3)
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HI-larity would ensue.
Or wouldn't.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (7Fj9P)
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I have one hundred dollars that says "it wouldn't."
Or wouldn't.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (7Fj9P)
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I have one hundred dollars that says "it wouldn't."
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 19, 2020 01:12 PM (pw+jk)
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>>> Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
6m
Nervous Nancy is an inherently "dumb" person. She wasted all of her time on the Impeachment Hoax. She will be overthrown, either by inside or out, just like her last time as "Speaker". Wallace & @FoxNews are on a bad path, watch!
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani
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When was the last time Pelosi had been been on a high profile Fox program for an interview? Ever?
6m
Nervous Nancy is an inherently "dumb" person. She wasted all of her time on the Impeachment Hoax. She will be overthrown, either by inside or out, just like her last time as "Speaker". Wallace & @FoxNews are on a bad path, watch!
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani
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When was the last time Pelosi had been been on a high profile Fox program for an interview? Ever?
Posted by: Turn Two at April 19, 2020 01:12 PM (vBkXF)
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No one will ever know for sure, but I believe it will dwarf the number of deaths from China virus. And it will dwarf the number we would ordinarily see from car accidents too.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (hku12)
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Yep, the panic is going to hurt the under-60 crowd a lot worse and a lot longer than the COVID itself ever would. Everyone from little kids to 50 year olds are going to take a long, sh*tty mental beating - and get first row seats to watch a lot of suicides, alcoholism, drug use, divorces, etc. - for the next decade or so.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:55 PM (IwDj9)
Stress is also strongly linked to the "real" diseases that effect hearts and lungs, cause cancers and strokes and all sorts of other nice things.
Including reduced ability to fight off infections.
But sure. There's gonna be fewer incidents of workplace violence this year, so we got that going for us. Which is nice.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 12:51 PM (hku12)
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Yep, the panic is going to hurt the under-60 crowd a lot worse and a lot longer than the COVID itself ever would. Everyone from little kids to 50 year olds are going to take a long, sh*tty mental beating - and get first row seats to watch a lot of suicides, alcoholism, drug use, divorces, etc. - for the next decade or so.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:55 PM (IwDj9)
Stress is also strongly linked to the "real" diseases that effect hearts and lungs, cause cancers and strokes and all sorts of other nice things.
Including reduced ability to fight off infections.
But sure. There's gonna be fewer incidents of workplace violence this year, so we got that going for us. Which is nice.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:13 PM (hku12)
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I know I'm behind the curve, but I just learned that the word "Boogaloo" is Alt Right Fringe slang for uprising/civil war (per lefties, of course).
I saw a patch that read "I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the Boogaloo" and (((my desire to know more intensified)))
I saw a patch that read "I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the Boogaloo" and (((my desire to know more intensified)))
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 19, 2020 01:13 PM (Dc2NZ)
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I wonder how long Commissar Lori Dykefoot in Chicago or other commissars are going to keep the big cities lockdown? Through the summer? Will that mean canceling the "Pride" parades in June? Let's see what happens when agendas clash if that happens
I wonder how long Commissar Lori Dykefoot in Chicago or other commissars are going to keep the big cities lockdown? Through the summer? Will that mean canceling the "Pride" parades in June? Let's see what happens when agendas clash if that happens
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 19, 2020 01:13 PM (a4xU3)
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When was the last time Pelosi had been been on a high profile Fox program for an interview? Ever?
Posted by: Turn Two at April 19, 2020 01:12 PM (vBkXF)
Well apparently this morning with that rat wallace
Posted by: Turn Two at April 19, 2020 01:12 PM (vBkXF)
Well apparently this morning with that rat wallace
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:13 PM (85Gof)
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Yep, we're very pro-science. You know, the one that requires discarding a hypothesis and starting over once it fails scrutiny.
Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at April 19, 2020 01:13 PM (41rs/)
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Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:01 PM (Do5/p)
Would it matter if I say : "with somewhat acceptable accuracy based on CDC statistics gathered over a period of one year and using data submitted by hospitals that has certain limitations" ?
Would it matter if I say : "with somewhat acceptable accuracy based on CDC statistics gathered over a period of one year and using data submitted by hospitals that has certain limitations" ?
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 01:14 PM (zr5Kq)
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And speaking of the Cummo brothers, has anyone asked the obvious question, since older bro appears to be running for President?
Does the younger doofus brother seem to be trying to walk himself out of the cable nooz biz, so he can secure himself a place in his brother's campaign/administration?
Does the younger doofus brother seem to be trying to walk himself out of the cable nooz biz, so he can secure himself a place in his brother's campaign/administration?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:14 PM (hku12)
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I didn't watch that Global "Concert" thing last night, but I saw a clip of The Rolling Stones performing separately from their respective mansions.
The song they chose to perform ? Trump's favorite Stones song, and the one he always close his rallies with--"You Can't Always Get What You Want."
I bet Keith is MAGA
The song they chose to perform ? Trump's favorite Stones song, and the one he always close his rallies with--"You Can't Always Get What You Want."
I bet Keith is MAGA
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:14 PM (CqE5x)
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I go the application submitted email with my confirmation number then zippo
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:10 PM (85Gof)
Maybe it's because, right now, they have no more money to give.
I go the application submitted email with my confirmation number then zippo
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:10 PM (85Gof)
Maybe it's because, right now, they have no more money to give.
Posted by: Sooner at April 19, 2020 01:14 PM (Fs5vw)
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Univ of Minnesota on mask efficacy, https://tinyurl.com/yb9bdzs3. N95 or useless
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (4vNgL)
No! No! You wear a mask or I will yell and shit my depends......again.
I got an extra diaper in my RV or did I leave them in my harley?
Social Security FTW!
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (4vNgL)
No! No! You wear a mask or I will yell and shit my depends......again.
I got an extra diaper in my RV or did I leave them in my harley?
Social Security FTW!
Posted by: Old Boomer Hippie Biden Voter at April 19, 2020 01:14 PM (Z+IKu)
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From a physician in Indiana who has signed and reviewed death certificates for almost 50 years: "doctors are using death by COVID-19 as a convenient diagnosis..." No !! it is getting them Gubment Money for every Hong Kong Fluey Death
That sounds about right.
That sounds about right.
Posted by: JEM at April 19, 2020 01:14 PM (8erNz)
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I now see Breakin 2: Electric Bugaloo in a whole new light.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 19, 2020 01:15 PM (H5knJ)
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I know I'm behind the curve, but I just learned that the word "Boogaloo"
is Alt Right Fringe slang for uprising/civil war (per lefties, of
course).
This just in the Ringo Starr song Back Off Boogaloo has been declared a hate crime
is Alt Right Fringe slang for uprising/civil war (per lefties, of
course).
This just in the Ringo Starr song Back Off Boogaloo has been declared a hate crime
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 19, 2020 01:15 PM (a4xU3)
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*lol, that sounds like something that would come out of Fauci's mouth, doesn't it
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 01:15 PM (zr5Kq)
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I go the application submitted email with my confirmation number then zippo
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:10 PM (85Gof)
Then it's in the works. The initial loan/grant up to 10K was modified to $1,000 per employee. It just shows up in your account without a notifying email.
When I talked with the guy this morning on my other two loans, he said it's in process and that possibly Wednesday they will be approving more.
There really isn't much BoA can do. All they do is verify you've had a business checking account (tied to your tax number) prior to January 1st of this year. After that, it's pretty much automatic.
Hang in there.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:10 PM (85Gof)
Then it's in the works. The initial loan/grant up to 10K was modified to $1,000 per employee. It just shows up in your account without a notifying email.
When I talked with the guy this morning on my other two loans, he said it's in process and that possibly Wednesday they will be approving more.
There really isn't much BoA can do. All they do is verify you've had a business checking account (tied to your tax number) prior to January 1st of this year. After that, it's pretty much automatic.
Hang in there.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:15 PM (mrrpT)
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Maybe it's because, right now, they have no more money to give.
Posted by: Sooner at April 19, 2020 01:14 PM (Fs5vw)
??
My applications were in before day 1 and then on day 1. I have no freaken idea. And I saw an email that those $10,000 loans were cut down to $1,000 per employee?
Posted by: Sooner at April 19, 2020 01:14 PM (Fs5vw)
??
My applications were in before day 1 and then on day 1. I have no freaken idea. And I saw an email that those $10,000 loans were cut down to $1,000 per employee?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:16 PM (85Gof)
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Wallace annoys the piss out of me, he would fit right in at MSNBC
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:16 PM (ZCEU2)
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I wonder if a Pelosi funeral would last as long as a McCain funeral?
Posted by: Infidel at April 19, 2020 01:16 PM (nvc6v)
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Why does Cuomo get a daily nationally televised briefing? Why don't I see the governors of Idaho and South Dakota on every day or ever? And if it is because things are way worse in NY, should not that be the preface to every briefing? We are showing this guy because out of fifty states, his is doing the worst.
Posted by: Quint at April 19, 2020 12:56 PM
Not to mention, wouldn't it make more sense to have daily briefings from Governors whose policies seem to be successful, and not from the Governor whose policies seem to be leading to the biggest fuckup of any state in the country?
Then again, why IS the media propping him up every day for the country to see what a fuckup he is? Seems counter to their regular strategy to hide the imbecile Democrats.
Why does Cuomo get a daily nationally televised briefing? Why don't I see the governors of Idaho and South Dakota on every day or ever? And if it is because things are way worse in NY, should not that be the preface to every briefing? We are showing this guy because out of fifty states, his is doing the worst.
Posted by: Quint at April 19, 2020 12:56 PM
Not to mention, wouldn't it make more sense to have daily briefings from Governors whose policies seem to be successful, and not from the Governor whose policies seem to be leading to the biggest fuckup of any state in the country?
Then again, why IS the media propping him up every day for the country to see what a fuckup he is? Seems counter to their regular strategy to hide the imbecile Democrats.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:17 PM (Do5/p)
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[@242: "I wonder if a Pelosi funeral would last as long as a McCain funeral?"
She looks like she's already been embalmed.
She looks like she's already been embalmed.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 19, 2020 01:18 PM (+oVP5)
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Re the subways in New York, people living in the clouds must be served.
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One wonders how much longer the servants are going to be willing to ride in those death traps.
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One wonders how much longer the servants are going to be willing to ride in those death traps.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 01:19 PM (kOpft)
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And even STEM subjects are becoming infected.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM (miJU3)
Medical and health professional schools definitely are being leftist radicalized.
And even STEM subjects are becoming infected.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM (miJU3)
Medical and health professional schools definitely are being leftist radicalized.
Posted by: Sooner at April 19, 2020 01:19 PM (Fs5vw)
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The RBG funeral will last 90 days.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 19, 2020 01:19 PM (VRslY)
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Then again, why IS the media propping him up every day for the country to see what a fuckup he is? Seems counter to their regular strategy to hide the imbecile Democrats.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:17 PM (Do5/p)
Well, the media, being imbecile Democrats themselves, are blind to the imbecility. And it is very much in their interest to hype this crisis far beyond its real magnitude as a weapon against Trump.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:17 PM (Do5/p)
Well, the media, being imbecile Democrats themselves, are blind to the imbecility. And it is very much in their interest to hype this crisis far beyond its real magnitude as a weapon against Trump.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2020 01:19 PM (miJU3)
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There really isn't much BoA can do. All they do is verify you've had a business checking account (tied to your tax number) prior to January 1st of this year. After that, it's pretty much automatic.
Hang in there.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:15 PM (mrrpT)
Yeah I hear ya, and I am, but it pisses the shit out of me.
Well actually BOA is asking for more paper work than my mortgage!!! I am sure that is their doing and not the intent of the congressional bill, but I have had to file tax returns, Federal and State payroll forms, and more. And I have, but they keep upping the ante. And I have down business with BOA for over 45 years without a blemish, the fuckers
Hang in there.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:15 PM (mrrpT)
Yeah I hear ya, and I am, but it pisses the shit out of me.
Well actually BOA is asking for more paper work than my mortgage!!! I am sure that is their doing and not the intent of the congressional bill, but I have had to file tax returns, Federal and State payroll forms, and more. And I have, but they keep upping the ante. And I have down business with BOA for over 45 years without a blemish, the fuckers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:19 PM (85Gof)
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>>> When was the last time Pelosi had been been on a high profile Fox program for an interview? Ever?
Posted by: Turn Two at April 19, 2020 01:12 PM (vBkXF)
Well apparently this morning with that rat wallace
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Wallace annoys the piss out of me, he would fit right in at MSNBC
Posted by: Skip
If you didn't know Fox was moving left before, these two together ought to tell you all you need to know. Pelosi would never go in to hostile territory.
Posted by: Turn Two at April 19, 2020 01:12 PM (vBkXF)
Well apparently this morning with that rat wallace
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Wallace annoys the piss out of me, he would fit right in at MSNBC
Posted by: Skip
If you didn't know Fox was moving left before, these two together ought to tell you all you need to know. Pelosi would never go in to hostile territory.
Posted by: Turn Two at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (vBkXF)
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Then again, why IS the media propping him up every day for the country to see what a fuckup he is? Seems counter to their regular strategy to hide the imbecile Democrats.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:17 PM (Do5/p)
Because they don't think he looks like a "fuckup."
Hardly a day passes when I don't read in the paper how Cuomo is "showing Trump how it's done." i even lost a FB friend over this when he extolled the virtues of Cuomo's briefings as opposed to Trump's.
It's mystifying.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:17 PM (Do5/p)
Because they don't think he looks like a "fuckup."
Hardly a day passes when I don't read in the paper how Cuomo is "showing Trump how it's done." i even lost a FB friend over this when he extolled the virtues of Cuomo's briefings as opposed to Trump's.
It's mystifying.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (CqE5x)
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McCartney, who looks like a woman, clanged on his electric keyboard alone and sang "Lady Godiva" (in a tribute to nurses, I guess). Sounded horrible.
Before he started singing he was telling us how heroic and brave the health care workers are, and then ended his fake praise with telling us to contact all our world leaders and demand they make health care their number one priority so this never happens again.
McCartney, who looks like a woman, clanged on his electric keyboard alone and sang "Lady Godiva" (in a tribute to nurses, I guess). Sounded horrible.
Before he started singing he was telling us how heroic and brave the health care workers are, and then ended his fake praise with telling us to contact all our world leaders and demand they make health care their number one priority so this never happens again.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (ir0g0)
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THis has been on the SBA site for a week:
SBA is unable to accept new applications at this time for the
Economic Injury Disaster Loan (EIDL)-COVID-19 related assistance program
(including EIDL Advances) based on available appropriations funding.
SBA is unable to accept new applications at this time for the
Economic Injury Disaster Loan (EIDL)-COVID-19 related assistance program
(including EIDL Advances) based on available appropriations funding.
Posted by: fd at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (Tnijr)
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Walter, this is true, I'm just disgusted it's still animated.
Posted by: Infidel at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (nvc6v)
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Univ of Minnesota on mask efficacy, https://tinyurl.com/yb9bdzs3. N95 or useless
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (4vNgL)
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This substantiates pretty much what I have been saying. I designed and made several HEPA filter units and electro-static units (like Smog-Hog). It is a very well defined field. But there is lots of shit out there that is just plain wrong.
I would have liked the report to also note that once a filter, any filter, is saturated it is one particle in from the environment and one particle out to filtered zone. Therefore must be cleaned or replaced on regular basis or it is not effective. That is why most HEPA filters are at least 12 inches (can be 18, 24, 30, maybe more) in the direction of arflow
Univ of Minnesota on mask efficacy, https://tinyurl.com/yb9bdzs3. N95 or useless
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 19, 2020 01:09 PM (4vNgL)
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This substantiates pretty much what I have been saying. I designed and made several HEPA filter units and electro-static units (like Smog-Hog). It is a very well defined field. But there is lots of shit out there that is just plain wrong.
I would have liked the report to also note that once a filter, any filter, is saturated it is one particle in from the environment and one particle out to filtered zone. Therefore must be cleaned or replaced on regular basis or it is not effective. That is why most HEPA filters are at least 12 inches (can be 18, 24, 30, maybe more) in the direction of arflow
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (pw+jk)
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In today's morning thread, someone reminded us that today is what originally was celebrated as Patriots' Day.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM
Still a thing here in MA, although given the state of our government, it's become just the second most holy of the High Hack Holidays.
Some of us remember, though.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2020 01:02 PM
Isn't there a Mark Wahlberg movie "Patriots' Day" about a terrorist bombing during the Patriots' Day marathon in Boston?
In today's morning thread, someone reminded us that today is what originally was celebrated as Patriots' Day.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 12:44 PM
Still a thing here in MA, although given the state of our government, it's become just the second most holy of the High Hack Holidays.
Some of us remember, though.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2020 01:02 PM
Isn't there a Mark Wahlberg movie "Patriots' Day" about a terrorist bombing during the Patriots' Day marathon in Boston?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (Do5/p)
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Medical and health professional schools definitely are being leftist radicalized.
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(doctors and nurses turn music up, continues twerking on Facebook before complaining about being laid off)
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(doctors and nurses turn music up, continues twerking on Facebook before complaining about being laid off)
Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (41rs/)
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>>Former Australian PM finally confirms that Downer took things into his own hands:
>>"He had no authority from Canberra to do this, and the first we heard of it in Australia was when the FBI turned up in London and wanted to interview Downer."
He's a long time Clinton hack. The focus is now on the FBI as it should be but this was a Clinton/Obama op.
>>"He had no authority from Canberra to do this, and the first we heard of it in Australia was when the FBI turned up in London and wanted to interview Downer."
He's a long time Clinton hack. The focus is now on the FBI as it should be but this was a Clinton/Obama op.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (ZLI7S)
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How the Obamas could easily win eight more years in the White House
https://tinyurl.com/y888g6fx
https://tinyurl.com/y888g6fx
Posted by: SMH at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (RU4sa)
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Then again, why IS the media propping him up every day for the country to see what a fuckup he is? Seems counter to their regular strategy to hide the imbecile Democrats.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:17 PM (Do5/p)
They have to keep the narrative alive at any cost.
Then again, why IS the media propping him up every day for the country to see what a fuckup he is? Seems counter to their regular strategy to hide the imbecile Democrats.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:17 PM (Do5/p)
They have to keep the narrative alive at any cost.
Posted by: Sooner at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (Fs5vw)
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Mostly, the vitriol here is expended upon the
New Humanities Departments, that teach Grievance Studies and
Post-Modernism to the complete exclusion of the old Liberal Arts.
And even STEM subjects are becoming infected.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM (miJU3)
I took a peek at my alma mater's political science department listings and for those professors who have their areas of study listed, whoa. Back when I graduated the whole feminist/grievance, post-modernism stuff was starting to get going in the department; it was possible to get a degree focused on that if you wanted but there were still plenty of options if you wanted to focus on other things. Now it's taken over.
New Humanities Departments, that teach Grievance Studies and
Post-Modernism to the complete exclusion of the old Liberal Arts.
And even STEM subjects are becoming infected.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM (miJU3)
I took a peek at my alma mater's political science department listings and for those professors who have their areas of study listed, whoa. Back when I graduated the whole feminist/grievance, post-modernism stuff was starting to get going in the department; it was possible to get a degree focused on that if you wanted but there were still plenty of options if you wanted to focus on other things. Now it's taken over.
Posted by: Vendette at April 19, 2020 01:22 PM (SIXRk)
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My applications were in before day 1 and then on day 1. I have no freaken idea. And I saw an email that those $10,000 loans were cut down to $1,000 per employee?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:16 PM (85Gof)
I filled out the initial application (rather complex, with a personal net worth statement and downloaded tax returns) on day 1, then, about a week or so later, they sent an email that said to go back and fill out the one page application.
Also, on the one page application there is no provision to ask for any amount. They just figure the max based on your sales and cost of goods.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:16 PM (85Gof)
I filled out the initial application (rather complex, with a personal net worth statement and downloaded tax returns) on day 1, then, about a week or so later, they sent an email that said to go back and fill out the one page application.
Also, on the one page application there is no provision to ask for any amount. They just figure the max based on your sales and cost of goods.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:22 PM (mrrpT)
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THis has been on the SBA site for a week:
SBA is unable to accept new applications at this time for the
Economic Injury Disaster Loan (EIDL)-COVID-19 related assistance program
(including EIDL Advances) based on available appropriations funding.
Posted by: fd at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (Tnijr)
And I am not sure the additional funding that may come soon is for that program or just the PPP? All very confusing..but the big restaurant chains got their money and I am sure also anyone with a personal banker
SBA is unable to accept new applications at this time for the
Economic Injury Disaster Loan (EIDL)-COVID-19 related assistance program
(including EIDL Advances) based on available appropriations funding.
Posted by: fd at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (Tnijr)
And I am not sure the additional funding that may come soon is for that program or just the PPP? All very confusing..but the big restaurant chains got their money and I am sure also anyone with a personal banker
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:22 PM (85Gof)
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Fauci appears to be the arsonist, that now basks in his glory as fireman. Apparently the funding for China to study coronavirus came from NIH money (directed to China by him?) ... and it was AFTER the US put a moratorium on such study ... because it was dangerous and could cause a pandemic if released.
Trump responded to one question on this already, but has only said they are looking into it. It would seem Fauci skirted our moratorium by going to China ... and he also is one of the stars of the Gates vaccine thingy ... globalists using our money, skirting our laws ... need prison for some.
https://youtu.be/BpwndRgw-kI?t=175
Trump responded to one question on this already, but has only said they are looking into it. It would seem Fauci skirted our moratorium by going to China ... and he also is one of the stars of the Gates vaccine thingy ... globalists using our money, skirting our laws ... need prison for some.
https://youtu.be/BpwndRgw-kI?t=175
Posted by: illiniwek at April 19, 2020 01:22 PM (Cus5s)
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I dumped Fox long ago for OAN
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:22 PM (ZCEU2)
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It is not intelligent,
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 12:49 PM (1g7ch)
You missed the part where I said I was not arguing for or against the wisdom of various flavors of stay at home orders, didn't you.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:52 PM (zr5Kq)
My post wasn't a direct response.
Just pointing out the 'trivial solution' to every problem.
The old standby is the "do nothing" solution.
Perhaps the initial wild ass guess, excuse, 'model', of 2.5 million dead was the "do nothing" scenario. I would have gone with that if the only viable options were "do nothing" and the "trivial solution" which the national lockdown approaches.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 12:49 PM (1g7ch)
You missed the part where I said I was not arguing for or against the wisdom of various flavors of stay at home orders, didn't you.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2020 12:52 PM (zr5Kq)
My post wasn't a direct response.
Just pointing out the 'trivial solution' to every problem.
The old standby is the "do nothing" solution.
Perhaps the initial wild ass guess, excuse, 'model', of 2.5 million dead was the "do nothing" scenario. I would have gone with that if the only viable options were "do nothing" and the "trivial solution" which the national lockdown approaches.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 01:23 PM (1g7ch)
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If you were already in debt to a bank you are moved up in the queue to get a loan. If you are not indebted already to the banks, good luck.
Posted by: fd at April 19, 2020 01:23 PM (Tnijr)
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Donna Brazile was the last straw
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:23 PM (ZCEU2)
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Been on my own since 1987. Never welched on a debt. Fuck Trump. Fuck the Fed. Fuck BoA. Fuck PNC. If I need any lip from them I'll scape it off Pelosi's zipper.
Anyone needs help from GOV needs mental help too.
Anyone needs help from GOV needs mental help too.
Posted by: dr kill at April 19, 2020 01:23 PM (93Mlk)
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Just as Biden should have been ruled out as a serious candidate years ago based on his multiple statements and actions, Cuomo should be the last go to person in regard to handling a pandemic in light of his previous dismissal to prepare in 2015 and the fact his State is obviously the worst at handling one.
Most definitely bizarro world.
Most definitely bizarro world.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 19, 2020 01:23 PM (2DOZq)
271
How the Obamas could easily win eight more years in the White House
https://tinyurl.com/y888g6fx
Posted by: SMH at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (RU4sa)
I read that..LOL, I'd like a years supply of whatever drugs that asshole is taking
https://tinyurl.com/y888g6fx
Posted by: SMH at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (RU4sa)
I read that..LOL, I'd like a years supply of whatever drugs that asshole is taking
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:23 PM (85Gof)
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McCartney, who looks like a woman, clanged on his electric keyboard alone and sang "Lady Godiva" (in a tribute to nurses, I guess). Sounded horrible.
Before he started singing he was telling us how heroic and brave the health care workers are, and then ended his fake praise with telling us to contact all our world leaders and demand they make health care their number one priority so this never happens again.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (ir0g0)
He's cheesy, but it should be pointed out that he also payed tribute to his mother Mary, a nurse and mid-wife during WW2.
Why he then didn't launch into"Let it Be" is anyone's guess.
Before he started singing he was telling us how heroic and brave the health care workers are, and then ended his fake praise with telling us to contact all our world leaders and demand they make health care their number one priority so this never happens again.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (ir0g0)
He's cheesy, but it should be pointed out that he also payed tribute to his mother Mary, a nurse and mid-wife during WW2.
Why he then didn't launch into"Let it Be" is anyone's guess.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:24 PM (CqE5x)
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Because they don't think he looks like a "fuckup."
Hardly a day passes when I don't read in the paper how Cuomo is "showing Trump how it's done." i even lost a FB friend over this when he extolled the virtues of Cuomo's briefings as opposed to Trump's.
It's mystifying.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (CqE5x)
I did a well-controlled, random sampled scientific study, and found that the odds of Cummo being the Democrat nominee in 2020 are greater than 50%, and the odds of Alzheimer Joe being the nominee are close to 0.
Hardly a day passes when I don't read in the paper how Cuomo is "showing Trump how it's done." i even lost a FB friend over this when he extolled the virtues of Cuomo's briefings as opposed to Trump's.
It's mystifying.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (CqE5x)
I did a well-controlled, random sampled scientific study, and found that the odds of Cummo being the Democrat nominee in 2020 are greater than 50%, and the odds of Alzheimer Joe being the nominee are close to 0.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:25 PM (hku12)
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How does that work, anyway? That's great and all, but that toothpaste was already squeezed out of the tube. Can the lawsuit still continue, or will a judge say "oh, you showed him! Look at how he gave you all of your civil rights back after only violating them that one time!"
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:50 PM (IwDj9)
On the one hand, the issue is moot, because the mayor's order has changed. But, as in the suit against NYC over their prohibition against carrying a licensed handgun any place but between your home, business premises, and an in-city range, the ease with which the rule was changed in an attempt to moot the lawsuit demonstrates the ease with which it can be changed back in six months when all of the attention is focused some place else.
Press to completion at SCOTUS, if necessary.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 19, 2020 12:50 PM (IwDj9)
On the one hand, the issue is moot, because the mayor's order has changed. But, as in the suit against NYC over their prohibition against carrying a licensed handgun any place but between your home, business premises, and an in-city range, the ease with which the rule was changed in an attempt to moot the lawsuit demonstrates the ease with which it can be changed back in six months when all of the attention is focused some place else.
Press to completion at SCOTUS, if necessary.
Posted by: Fox2! at April 19, 2020 01:25 PM (qyH+l)
275
How the Obamas could easily win eight more years in the White House
https://tinyurl.com/y888g6fx
Posted by: SMH at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (RU4sa)
I read that..LOL, I'd like a years supply of whatever drugs that asshole is taking
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:23 PM (85Gof)
No way in Hell would the lazy Moochelle want any part of being President when whoever is President is going to have so much on his plate.
https://tinyurl.com/y888g6fx
Posted by: SMH at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (RU4sa)
I read that..LOL, I'd like a years supply of whatever drugs that asshole is taking
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:23 PM (85Gof)
No way in Hell would the lazy Moochelle want any part of being President when whoever is President is going to have so much on his plate.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:26 PM (CqE5x)
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Why does Cuomo get a daily nationally televised briefing? Why don't I
see the governors of Idaho and South Dakota on every day or ever? And if
it is because things are way worse in NY, should not that be the
preface to every briefing? We are showing this guy because out of fifty
states, his is doing the worst.
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Right around half of all kung flu fatailities are on his watch, so we might as well hear what he has to say for himself.
see the governors of Idaho and South Dakota on every day or ever? And if
it is because things are way worse in NY, should not that be the
preface to every briefing? We are showing this guy because out of fifty
states, his is doing the worst.
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Right around half of all kung flu fatailities are on his watch, so we might as well hear what he has to say for himself.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 01:26 PM (kOpft)
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Taking payment from Uncle Sam makes you a whore, and standing in line is for commies.
Posted by: dr kill at April 19, 2020 01:26 PM (93Mlk)
278
So Nazi Polosi claims, with a straight face, that her encouraging tourism in China Town wasn't downplaying the virus, it was about ending discrimination and ending violence against Asians. Piss Wallace let her get away with it. Can anyone document 1 friggin' case of violence against Asians b/c Kung-flu??
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 01:26 PM (7Fj9P)
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Have any of you New Yorkers checked out the status of attendance at mosques? I would like to know if they are exempt from nasty anti-religious restrictions.
Posted by: Grannymimi at April 19, 2020 01:26 PM (u5LFV)
280
How the Obamas could easily win eight more years in the White House
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Nothing says equal rights like being recognized for the valuable accomplishment of marrying the right man.
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Nothing says equal rights like being recognized for the valuable accomplishment of marrying the right man.
Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at April 19, 2020 01:27 PM (41rs/)
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Because they don't think he looks like a "fuckup."
Hardly a day passes when I don't read in the paper how Cuomo is
"showing Trump how it's done." i even lost a FB friend over this when
he extolled the virtues of Cuomo's briefings as opposed to Trump's.
It's mystifying.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (CqE5x)
This.
There are plenty of people who think Cuomo is doing great, Trump is a failure all the way around on this, and the success of a governor is based on how much of the state he or she has shut down. They dislike Trump that much.
Oh, and Michelle Obama is going to start reading stories to kids on PBS on Mondays. Why do I have a feeling that either PBS didn't offer that to Melania or she turned it down because she knew it would be unjustly politicized?
Hardly a day passes when I don't read in the paper how Cuomo is
"showing Trump how it's done." i even lost a FB friend over this when
he extolled the virtues of Cuomo's briefings as opposed to Trump's.
It's mystifying.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM (CqE5x)
This.
There are plenty of people who think Cuomo is doing great, Trump is a failure all the way around on this, and the success of a governor is based on how much of the state he or she has shut down. They dislike Trump that much.
Oh, and Michelle Obama is going to start reading stories to kids on PBS on Mondays. Why do I have a feeling that either PBS didn't offer that to Melania or she turned it down because she knew it would be unjustly politicized?
Posted by: Vendette at April 19, 2020 01:28 PM (SIXRk)
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"If I do what government tells me to it'll be all right"
And that seems to have been the overwhelming public response to this CF.
And that seems to have been the overwhelming public response to this CF.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 19, 2020 01:28 PM (EgshT)
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Anyone needs help from GOV needs mental help too.
Posted by: dr kill at April 19, 2020 01:23 PM (93Mlk)
Perhaps you've been away for the last few months...
We small business owners invested our money in good faith, worked hard, built our businesses and then the government ordered us to close.
Nothing coming in, but tons going out.
I'm certainly not ashamed to take the money in these programs because I didn't cause the shutdown.
Posted by: dr kill at April 19, 2020 01:23 PM (93Mlk)
Perhaps you've been away for the last few months...
We small business owners invested our money in good faith, worked hard, built our businesses and then the government ordered us to close.
Nothing coming in, but tons going out.
I'm certainly not ashamed to take the money in these programs because I didn't cause the shutdown.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:28 PM (mrrpT)
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Acbtung! The U.S. bill of rights has been cancelled by the Peoples Republic of China until further notice. Obey!
Posted by: Vlog xx xx at April 19, 2020 01:29 PM (/FKir)
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Even if the Dems get off their collective ass and pass the next relief bill, it's not even as much as the first round. They are holding out for hospital and local governments to get most of that so I wouldn't count on anything.
Posted by: fd at April 19, 2020 01:29 PM (Tnijr)
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THE TOP 25 MEN THAT LOOK LIKE OLD LESBIANS
https://tinyurl.com/ybnarxk2
Number 1 will not surprise you.
https://tinyurl.com/ybnarxk2
Number 1 will not surprise you.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 19, 2020 01:30 PM (pw+jk)
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The other thing about that Nazi interview? She had that question telegraphed to her. She didn't even pause when she answered, she was nodding her head well before Chrissy finished his question, then just launched into her lying response.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (7Fj9P)
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He's cheesy, but it should be pointed out that he also payed tribute to his mother Mary, a nurse and mid-wife during WW2.
Why he then didn't launch into"Let it Be" is anyone's guess.
Posted by: JoeF.
You bought into that bullshit? He did that to establish cred as some expert on health care and health care workers.
He's cheesy, but it should be pointed out that he also payed tribute to his mother Mary, a nurse and mid-wife during WW2.
Why he then didn't launch into"Let it Be" is anyone's guess.
Posted by: JoeF.
You bought into that bullshit? He did that to establish cred as some expert on health care and health care workers.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (ir0g0)
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Go ahead. Stand in line. Lick the hand to get your own money. Answer the same motherfucking questions for the 15th motherfu king time go on. Count me out. Not me.
It is true we all have a price but this ain't close to mine.
It is true we all have a price but this ain't close to mine.
Posted by: dr kill at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (93Mlk)
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I did a well-controlled, random sampled scientific study, and found that the odds of Cummo being the Democrat nominee in 2020 are greater than 50%, and the odds of Alzheimer Joe being the nominee are close to 0.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:25 PM (hku12)
Perhaps, but I don't see how Cuomo is a threat to Trump.
All Cuomo has done is complain and beg Trump for EVERYTHING--and Trump has delivered everything and more.
He's also been quoted as saying "He has Trump's back and Trump has his" so if he now starts talking shit, he'll look like a backstabber.
Should Cuomo run and criticize Trump on hie early response? Trump already has clips f NYC officials telling people to go to the Chinese Lunar Parade.
Cuomo is also corrupt, has an abortion fetish, hates guns and the people who love them and is widely known as not too bright.
Finally, he has NO appeal outside NY
But go ahead Democrats, run him against Trump.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:25 PM (hku12)
Perhaps, but I don't see how Cuomo is a threat to Trump.
All Cuomo has done is complain and beg Trump for EVERYTHING--and Trump has delivered everything and more.
He's also been quoted as saying "He has Trump's back and Trump has his" so if he now starts talking shit, he'll look like a backstabber.
Should Cuomo run and criticize Trump on hie early response? Trump already has clips f NYC officials telling people to go to the Chinese Lunar Parade.
Cuomo is also corrupt, has an abortion fetish, hates guns and the people who love them and is widely known as not too bright.
Finally, he has NO appeal outside NY
But go ahead Democrats, run him against Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)
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Not sure, but I think today is Orthodox Easter.
Posted by: Empire1 at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM
Yep! Christos Anesti!
https://bit.ly/3etjHfb
Not sure, but I think today is Orthodox Easter.
Posted by: Empire1 at April 19, 2020 01:11 PM
Yep! Christos Anesti!
https://bit.ly/3etjHfb
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:32 PM (Do5/p)
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Alex Berenson @AlexBerenson
2h
From a physician in Indiana who has signed and reviewed death certificates for almost 50 years: "doctors are using death by COVID-19 as a convenient diagnosis..." No !! it is getting them Gubment Money for every Hong Kong Fluey Death
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 19, 2020 01:08 PM (0Gva/)
They are getting paid to say people are dying from Kung Flu.
2h
From a physician in Indiana who has signed and reviewed death certificates for almost 50 years: "doctors are using death by COVID-19 as a convenient diagnosis..." No !! it is getting them Gubment Money for every Hong Kong Fluey Death
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 19, 2020 01:08 PM (0Gva/)
They are getting paid to say people are dying from Kung Flu.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 01:32 PM (1g7ch)
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Not "religion hating," CBD. CHRISTIAN-hating.
They aren't cracking down on synagogues, at least that I've heard, and the Never touch mosques.
No, this government persecution is squarely aimed at Christians.
They aren't cracking down on synagogues, at least that I've heard, and the Never touch mosques.
No, this government persecution is squarely aimed at Christians.
Posted by: Beverly at April 19, 2020 01:32 PM (0KiA5)
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He's cheesy, but it should be pointed out that he also payed tribute to his mother Mary, a nurse and mid-wife during WW2.
Why he then didn't launch into"Let it Be" is anyone's guess.
Posted by: JoeF.
You bought into that bullshit? He did that to establish cred as some expert on health care and health care workers.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (ir0g0)
It's not a secret that Paul's mother was a nurse and midwife. She died of cancer when he was 16. Every Beatle fan knows that.
Yes, he did add that info because it was a tribute to nurses, but what do you expect?
Why he then didn't launch into"Let it Be" is anyone's guess.
Posted by: JoeF.
You bought into that bullshit? He did that to establish cred as some expert on health care and health care workers.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (ir0g0)
It's not a secret that Paul's mother was a nurse and midwife. She died of cancer when he was 16. Every Beatle fan knows that.
Yes, he did add that info because it was a tribute to nurses, but what do you expect?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:33 PM (CqE5x)
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We small business owners invested our money in good faith, worked hard, built our businesses and then the government ordered us to close.
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And paying a f^*k ton of taxes for the privilege. Our marble-mouthed Governor said 80+% of our state's economy was small business.
I was surprised.
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And paying a f^*k ton of taxes for the privilege. Our marble-mouthed Governor said 80+% of our state's economy was small business.
I was surprised.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 01:34 PM (7Fj9P)
296
Alex Berenson @AlexBerenson
2h
From a physician in Indiana who has signed and reviewed death certificates for almost 50 years: "doctors are using death by COVID-19 as a convenient diagnosis..." No !! it is getting them Gubment Money for every Hong Kong Fluey Death
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We need to get Dr. Mark Sloan on this. He'll surgically remove the lies and diagnose murder!
2h
From a physician in Indiana who has signed and reviewed death certificates for almost 50 years: "doctors are using death by COVID-19 as a convenient diagnosis..." No !! it is getting them Gubment Money for every Hong Kong Fluey Death
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We need to get Dr. Mark Sloan on this. He'll surgically remove the lies and diagnose murder!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 19, 2020 01:34 PM (+y/Ru)
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There better be a lot of tin pot dictators looking for work after the next election cycle.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:36 PM (ZCEU2)
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I did a well-controlled, random sampled scientific study, and found that the odds of Cummo being the Democrat nominee in 2020 are greater than 50%, and the odds of Alzheimer Joe being the nominee are close to 0.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:25 PM (hku12)
Perhaps, but I don't see how Cuomo is a threat to Trump.
All Cuomo has done is complain and beg Trump for EVERYTHING--and Trump has delivered everything and more.
He's also been quoted as saying "He has Trump's back and Trump has his" so if he now starts talking shit, he'll look like a backstabber.
Should Cuomo run and criticize Trump on hie early response? Trump already has clips f NYC officials telling people to go to the Chinese Lunar Parade.
Cuomo is also corrupt, has an abortion fetish, hates guns and the people who love them and is widely known as not too bright.
Finally, he has NO appeal outside NY
But go ahead Democrats, run him against Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)
It's still early. Those odds may go down as we get further from this episode we're in now, but as of right now I think the Dems are sure to replace Biden, and Cummo looks like the obvious choice.
Or they got someone else they're hiding in the wings.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:25 PM (hku12)
Perhaps, but I don't see how Cuomo is a threat to Trump.
All Cuomo has done is complain and beg Trump for EVERYTHING--and Trump has delivered everything and more.
He's also been quoted as saying "He has Trump's back and Trump has his" so if he now starts talking shit, he'll look like a backstabber.
Should Cuomo run and criticize Trump on hie early response? Trump already has clips f NYC officials telling people to go to the Chinese Lunar Parade.
Cuomo is also corrupt, has an abortion fetish, hates guns and the people who love them and is widely known as not too bright.
Finally, he has NO appeal outside NY
But go ahead Democrats, run him against Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)
It's still early. Those odds may go down as we get further from this episode we're in now, but as of right now I think the Dems are sure to replace Biden, and Cummo looks like the obvious choice.
Or they got someone else they're hiding in the wings.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:36 PM (hku12)
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259 How the Obamas could easily win eight more years in the White House
https://tinyurl.com/y888g6fx
Posted by: SMH at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (RU4sa)
Yes, children, and that is when the Second American Revolution started.
https://tinyurl.com/y888g6fx
Posted by: SMH at April 19, 2020 01:21 PM (RU4sa)
Yes, children, and that is when the Second American Revolution started.
Posted by: 2nd Grade Teacher, 50 years from now at April 19, 2020 01:37 PM (NgKpN)
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and the odds of Alzheimer Joe being the nominee are close to 0.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:25 PM
Are you kidding‽‽‽
Have you seen the enthusiasm evidenced for "I'm on Team Joe" by the results generated by https://avatar.joebiden.com? There have been a number of examples published here over the last two days.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:25 PM
Are you kidding‽‽‽
Have you seen the enthusiasm evidenced for "I'm on Team Joe" by the results generated by https://avatar.joebiden.com? There have been a number of examples published here over the last two days.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 19, 2020 01:37 PM (DMUuz)
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Have you seen the enthusiasm evidenced for "I'm on Team Joe" by the results generated by https://avatar.joebiden.com? There have been a number of examples published here over the last two days.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 19, 2020 01:37 PM (DMUuz)
They are indeed going "all-in" on Joe and will continue to do so right up until the moment they're not.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 19, 2020 01:37 PM (DMUuz)
They are indeed going "all-in" on Joe and will continue to do so right up until the moment they're not.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:39 PM (CqE5x)
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Yeah I hear ya, and I am, but it pisses the shit out of me.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:19 PM
Wow. Pissing shit. Now that is a health problem I hope to *never* have.
Yeah I hear ya, and I am, but it pisses the shit out of me.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:19 PM
Wow. Pissing shit. Now that is a health problem I hope to *never* have.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:39 PM (Do5/p)
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It's still early. Those odds may go down as we get further from this episode we're in now, but as of right now I think the Dems are sure to replace Biden, and Cummo looks like the obvious choice.
Or they got someone else they're hiding in the wings.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:36 PM (hku12)
How does Cuomo help the Democrats in states they NEED to take from Trump?
It's still early. Those odds may go down as we get further from this episode we're in now, but as of right now I think the Dems are sure to replace Biden, and Cummo looks like the obvious choice.
Or they got someone else they're hiding in the wings.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:36 PM (hku12)
How does Cuomo help the Democrats in states they NEED to take from Trump?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:40 PM (CqE5x)
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>>How does Cuomo help the Democrats in states they NEED to take from Trump?
Why would Cuomo agree to go on a suicide mission? He's not even going to be able to campaign until July given the condition of his state.
Why would Cuomo agree to go on a suicide mission? He's not even going to be able to campaign until July given the condition of his state.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2020 01:42 PM (ZLI7S)
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They'll keep Joe going. He will dodge every debate and provide sound-bites from his basement hospital bed.
The Obama endorsement does matter to these brain-(D)amaged freaks.
The Obama endorsement does matter to these brain-(D)amaged freaks.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - picking through a cabinet of liquor at April 19, 2020 01:42 PM (xYFRc)
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and the odds of Alzheimer Joe being the nominee are close to 0.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:25 PM
Are you kidding
Have you seen the enthusiasm evidenced for "I'm on Team Joe" by the results generated by https://avatar.joebiden.com? There have been a number of examples published here over the last two days.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 19, 2020 01:37 PM (DMUuz)
Some of the best:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/team-joe
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:25 PM
Are you kidding
Have you seen the enthusiasm evidenced for "I'm on Team Joe" by the results generated by https://avatar.joebiden.com? There have been a number of examples published here over the last two days.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 19, 2020 01:37 PM (DMUuz)
Some of the best:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/team-joe
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:42 PM (hku12)
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Because they don't think he looks like a "fuckup."
It's mystifying.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM
Yes, it is.
But this is apparently what happens when the Leftists in the media have absolutely no awareness of the opinions of anyone outside their leftist bubble.
Because they don't think he looks like a "fuckup."
It's mystifying.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:20 PM
Yes, it is.
But this is apparently what happens when the Leftists in the media have absolutely no awareness of the opinions of anyone outside their leftist bubble.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 01:42 PM (Do5/p)
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Seriously.
Who has standing to cause Jill Biden of elderly abuse?
If we can get Joe some professional help, and sever access for his handlers after the Presidential ballots are printed, the Dems couldn't reprint the forms and it would force them to use write in votes.
Who has standing to cause Jill Biden of elderly abuse?
If we can get Joe some professional help, and sever access for his handlers after the Presidential ballots are printed, the Dems couldn't reprint the forms and it would force them to use write in votes.
Posted by: Downcast at April 19, 2020 01:42 PM (j9JPn)
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Finally, he has NO appeal outside NYC
FIFY
But go ahead Democrats, run him against Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)
FIFY
But go ahead Democrats, run him against Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Fox2! at April 19, 2020 01:43 PM (qyH+l)
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How does Cuomo help the Democrats in states they NEED to take from Trump?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:40 PM
He's not Trump, duh!
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:40 PM
He's not Trump, duh!
Posted by: DNC & MSM at April 19, 2020 01:43 PM (DMUuz)
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How does Cuomo help the Democrats in states they NEED to take from Trump?
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I think Mark Cuban will jump in. For whatever reason, he hates Trump. Every time he opens his mouth, Fox News has a collective orgasm.
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I think Mark Cuban will jump in. For whatever reason, he hates Trump. Every time he opens his mouth, Fox News has a collective orgasm.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 01:43 PM (7Fj9P)
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I like to sniff soiled diapers.
Posted by: herr dokter shill at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM (H5knJ)
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How does Cuomo help the Democrats in states they NEED to take from Trump?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:40 PM (CqE5x)
When the final numbers come out, and the hysteria dies. When the government finally admits this ain't anywhere near as deadly as they were sold.
The only possible way you can run against Trump is to say he over reacted. That the orders were Unconstitutional and not needed.
Cuomo can't do that.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:40 PM (CqE5x)
When the final numbers come out, and the hysteria dies. When the government finally admits this ain't anywhere near as deadly as they were sold.
The only possible way you can run against Trump is to say he over reacted. That the orders were Unconstitutional and not needed.
Cuomo can't do that.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM (NgKpN)
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Finally, he has NO appeal outside NYC
FIFY
But go ahead Democrats, run him against Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Fox2! at April 19, 2020 01:43 PM (qyH+l)
That's right. Upstate hates him.
FIFY
But go ahead Democrats, run him against Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Fox2! at April 19, 2020 01:43 PM (qyH+l)
That's right. Upstate hates him.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM (CqE5x)
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In the EMT, someone mentioned the CDC doing studies for "racism" and "gun control".
They have also been doing obesity, which at least is a legitimate health problem.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:22 PM (T6t7i)
And also why are lesbians fat and homely.
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I can't remember what year it was but Obama was praised for forcing the CDC to spend most of their budget on solar panels...
They have also been doing obesity, which at least is a legitimate health problem.
Posted by: pep at April 19, 2020 12:22 PM (T6t7i)
And also why are lesbians fat and homely.
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I can't remember what year it was but Obama was praised for forcing the CDC to spend most of their budget on solar panels...
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM (h1jJh)
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What's this?
That fascist cocksucker mayor in CA (I know, which one, right?) who unoriginally compared protesters of totalitarianism to nazis and kkk went mort via a plane crash??
What's this?
That fascist cocksucker mayor in CA (I know, which one, right?) who unoriginally compared protesters of totalitarianism to nazis and kkk went mort via a plane crash??
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM (ir0g0)
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312 At the end of this obscene tyrannical operation, the models the "Men and Women of Science" were using to push panic and shutdowns will have been wrong to the tune of 98 pct or more.
People need to be made to pay for this scam.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM (34Z/X)
As I've been joking since this started.
They used Mann's Global Warmering Computers for their models.
People need to be made to pay for this scam.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM (34Z/X)
As I've been joking since this started.
They used Mann's Global Warmering Computers for their models.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 19, 2020 01:45 PM (NgKpN)
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Yeah I hear ya, and I am, but it pisses the shit out of me.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:19 PM
My brother, with a degree in accounting and an MBA, said that if all the loans come through as expected totaling $850,000, I should max out the other credit lines, cash in the investments, declare bankruptcy and move to Panama.
And he said it wouldn't affect my getting Social Security.
Sounds pretty good.
Yeah I hear ya, and I am, but it pisses the shit out of me.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2020 01:19 PM
My brother, with a degree in accounting and an MBA, said that if all the loans come through as expected totaling $850,000, I should max out the other credit lines, cash in the investments, declare bankruptcy and move to Panama.
And he said it wouldn't affect my getting Social Security.
Sounds pretty good.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:45 PM (mrrpT)
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It's still early. Those odds may go down as we get further from this episode we're in now, but as of right now I think the Dems are sure to replace Biden, and Cummo looks like the obvious choice.
Or they got someone else they're hiding in the wings.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:36 PM (hku12)
How does Cuomo help the Democrats in states they NEED to take from Trump?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:40 PM (CqE5x)
I don't know that Team Dem considers the White House as winnable this year.
If they don't, then it's about down ballot races.
Watching Alzheimer Joe go right now is like watching your car going down the road with one flat tire and smoke coming from under the hood.
Sure, it's still moving, but eventually it's either going to explode or go careening off the road. Joe is not being pushed out yet, because they can't, but as soon as they can, they will.
I guarantee it. I bet my fortune on it.
Or they got someone else they're hiding in the wings.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:36 PM (hku12)
How does Cuomo help the Democrats in states they NEED to take from Trump?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:40 PM (CqE5x)
I don't know that Team Dem considers the White House as winnable this year.
If they don't, then it's about down ballot races.
Watching Alzheimer Joe go right now is like watching your car going down the road with one flat tire and smoke coming from under the hood.
Sure, it's still moving, but eventually it's either going to explode or go careening off the road. Joe is not being pushed out yet, because they can't, but as soon as they can, they will.
I guarantee it. I bet my fortune on it.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:46 PM (hku12)
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Good afternoon
Thanks to everyone who attended the protests in their areas. It was nice to see so much support for middle class workers.
Thanks to everyone who attended the protests in their areas. It was nice to see so much support for middle class workers.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 19, 2020 01:46 PM (IDhUW)
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We're always told to never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence or stupidity.
Still think that's true? I'm pretty sure coin flips would eventually near 50% over time. I'm thinking when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism...
Still think that's true? I'm pretty sure coin flips would eventually near 50% over time. I'm thinking when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism...
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 19, 2020 01:47 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:47 PM (CqE5x)
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How does Cuomo help the Democrats in states they NEED to take from Trump?
Why would Cuomo agree to go on a suicide mission? He's not even
going to be able to campaign until July given the condition of his
state.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2020 01:42 PM (ZLI7S)
Part of me wonders if they started creating the transition team/figuring out who will hold key positions in a Biden administration partly to inoculate Biden if he does go all the way to the election with "Look at all the fine people we've got ready to go, and we'll start the day after the election!" Also partly that if they do have to shove him aside whoever replaces him does so knowing that whatever "team" has been assembled by that point is getting passed on to him or her.
Remember 2008 when in the days after the election the media was demanding Bush should just let Obama and Company take over right then instead of waiting for January 20? Same thing will happen: Trump should hand over the reins right away.
Why would Cuomo agree to go on a suicide mission? He's not even
going to be able to campaign until July given the condition of his
state.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2020 01:42 PM (ZLI7S)
Part of me wonders if they started creating the transition team/figuring out who will hold key positions in a Biden administration partly to inoculate Biden if he does go all the way to the election with "Look at all the fine people we've got ready to go, and we'll start the day after the election!" Also partly that if they do have to shove him aside whoever replaces him does so knowing that whatever "team" has been assembled by that point is getting passed on to him or her.
Remember 2008 when in the days after the election the media was demanding Bush should just let Obama and Company take over right then instead of waiting for January 20? Same thing will happen: Trump should hand over the reins right away.
Posted by: Vendette at April 19, 2020 01:47 PM (SIXRk)
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That fascist cocksucker mayor in CA (I know, which one, right?) who unoriginally compared protesters of totalitarianism to nazis and kkk went mort via a plane crash??
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Plane crashed because of Trump-shear.
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Plane crashed because of Trump-shear.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 19, 2020 01:47 PM (7Fj9P)
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Didn't Cuomo say that anyone opposed to unlimited abortion on demand should leave his state?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 19, 2020 01:47 PM (Uu+Jp)
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There better be a lot of tin pot dictators looking for work after the next election cycle.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:36 PM
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I am willing to bet the Governor of Michigan will not be reelected when her term is up in 2022
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:36 PM
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I am willing to bet the Governor of Michigan will not be reelected when her term is up in 2022
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 19, 2020 01:48 PM (JUOKG)
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Not thinking there is much love for Cuomo out of NY
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2020 01:48 PM (ZCEU2)
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Nothing says equal rights like being recognized for the valuable accomplishment of marrying the right man.
Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at April 19, 2020 01:27 PM (41rs/)
Isn't that Hillary!'s principal qualification?
Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at April 19, 2020 01:27 PM (41rs/)
Isn't that Hillary!'s principal qualification?
Posted by: Fox2! at April 19, 2020 01:48 PM (qyH+l)
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Kirby, from California. Looks like he went out like JFK, Jr.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2020 01:48 PM (q3gwH)
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"Ex-Mayor Who Criticized Trump's Response to Coronavirus Dies in Plane Crash"
LA Times.
Posted by: JoeF.
Fake News. He compared Us (supporters of Trump) to nazis and kkk.
"Ex-Mayor Who Criticized Trump's Response to Coronavirus Dies in Plane Crash"
LA Times.
Posted by: JoeF.
Fake News. He compared Us (supporters of Trump) to nazis and kkk.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:48 PM (ir0g0)
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Para 7 of the ProPublica, a far Left leaning rag, reads in part
The COVID-19 crisis has exposed the national stockpile as poorly maintained by the Trump administration and far too small to meet the competing demands that have predictably poured in from many states as the pandemic hurtles across the country. Indeed, some of the ventilators in the stockpile suffered from the same problem faced by New York -- they fell into disrepair.
Para 8 is busy hammering on Bloomberg's reign, when he was 'a Republican'. No moar quoting of it, cuz it is as slanted as I figured it was. Thomas Frieden is pointed at for part of the blame, without once noting he's a Dem (and a graduate of Oberlin College, no less).
Lack of federal grants, cuts to Medicaid -- Yeah, they spread the blame game around liberally, so to speak.
This is Gell-Mann amnesia in a single article. Pure garbage.
The COVID-19 crisis has exposed the national stockpile as poorly maintained by the Trump administration and far too small to meet the competing demands that have predictably poured in from many states as the pandemic hurtles across the country. Indeed, some of the ventilators in the stockpile suffered from the same problem faced by New York -- they fell into disrepair.
Para 8 is busy hammering on Bloomberg's reign, when he was 'a Republican'. No moar quoting of it, cuz it is as slanted as I figured it was. Thomas Frieden is pointed at for part of the blame, without once noting he's a Dem (and a graduate of Oberlin College, no less).
Lack of federal grants, cuts to Medicaid -- Yeah, they spread the blame game around liberally, so to speak.
This is Gell-Mann amnesia in a single article. Pure garbage.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 19, 2020 01:48 PM (Z4rgH)
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I get how some named Karen or those who have friends and family named Karen would not like it.
**********
My ex-wife is named Karen. It fits her to a T.
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My ex-wife is named Karen. It fits her to a T.
Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at April 19, 2020 01:49 PM (iSm7o)
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244 [@242: "I wonder if a Pelosi funeral would last as long as a McCain funeral?"
She looks like she's already been embalmed.
Embalming started a couple decades back....one fifth at a time.....
She looks like she's already been embalmed.
Embalming started a couple decades back....one fifth at a time.....
Posted by: MrObvious at April 19, 2020 01:50 PM (5prN7)
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I ran various computer models for 20 years. If you are sly enough you can make them say whatever you want. What is also amazing is that when confronted with disagreement with actual data, people tend to believe the model.
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Thinking about the data requires, you know thinking, and nodding in agreement with a graph requires no more than neck muscles.
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Thinking about the data requires, you know thinking, and nodding in agreement with a graph requires no more than neck muscles.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 19, 2020 01:50 PM (IDhUW)
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Cuomo is also corrupt, has an abortion fetish, hates guns and the people who love them and is widely known as not too bright.
Finally, he has NO appeal outside NY
But go ahead Democrats, run him against Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)
Like the impeachment team, only New York and California votes are relevant. The rest of the progtards will fall in line and fill out all the ballets they printed out as directed.
Finally, he has NO appeal outside NY
But go ahead Democrats, run him against Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:31 PM (CqE5x)
Like the impeachment team, only New York and California votes are relevant. The rest of the progtards will fall in line and fill out all the ballets they printed out as directed.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 01:50 PM (1g7ch)
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I bet my fortune on it.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:46 PM (hku12)
350 pounds sterling?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:46 PM (hku12)
350 pounds sterling?
Posted by: Squire Danaher at April 19, 2020 01:51 PM (qyH+l)
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332 I get how some named Karen or those who have friends and family named Karen would not like it.
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My ex-wife is named Karen. It fits her to a T.
Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at April 19, 2020 01:49 PM (iSm7o)
My Ex Live in Girlfriend Karen was the antithesis of the 'Karen' meme.
Hell, she got mad at ME if I complained about something, that NEEDED to be complained about.
She was the suffer in silence type.
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My ex-wife is named Karen. It fits her to a T.
Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at April 19, 2020 01:49 PM (iSm7o)
My Ex Live in Girlfriend Karen was the antithesis of the 'Karen' meme.
Hell, she got mad at ME if I complained about something, that NEEDED to be complained about.
She was the suffer in silence type.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 19, 2020 01:51 PM (NgKpN)
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83 Coumo didnt shut down the subways bacause too many people actually need them. NYC is not built for cars or buses
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I think we've found the problem, in addition to the hospitals' built in inflexibility.
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I think we've found the problem, in addition to the hospitals' built in inflexibility.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 19, 2020 01:52 PM (IDhUW)
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She looks like she's already been embalmed.
Posted by: MrObvious at April 19, 2020 01:50 PM (5prN7)
Speaking of which...
Anyone see the corpse of Madeleine Albright on tv this morning? It's hard to look that dead and still be breathing.
Posted by: MrObvious at April 19, 2020 01:50 PM (5prN7)
Speaking of which...
Anyone see the corpse of Madeleine Albright on tv this morning? It's hard to look that dead and still be breathing.
Posted by: jwest at April 19, 2020 01:52 PM (mrrpT)
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Didn't Cuomo say that anyone opposed to unlimited abortion on demand should leave his state?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 19, 2020 01:47 PM (Uu+Jp)
I don't think anyone knows exactly where the number is, but the abortion meter is somewhere in the 50/50 range.
If a Republican campaign is focusing its attention on the abortion issue, it means they're trying to shore up conservatives, not convince liberals to vote for them.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 19, 2020 01:47 PM (Uu+Jp)
I don't think anyone knows exactly where the number is, but the abortion meter is somewhere in the 50/50 range.
If a Republican campaign is focusing its attention on the abortion issue, it means they're trying to shore up conservatives, not convince liberals to vote for them.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:53 PM (hku12)
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Seriously.
Who has standing to cause Jill Biden of elderly abuse?
If we can get Joe some professional help, and sever access for his
handlers after the Presidential ballots are printed, the Dems couldn't
reprint the forms and it would force them to use write in votes.
*****
Joe Biden has been a terrible asshole his entire life; He deserves this. His condition is deteriorating so fast that by October he will look like a bowl of mashed potatoes. It will completely destroy the democrap party if they try to make the argument that their best option is a brain dead idiot who doesn't know where he is or what year it is....DON'T EVER STOP THE ENEMY FROM COMMITTING SUICIDE.
Who has standing to cause Jill Biden of elderly abuse?
If we can get Joe some professional help, and sever access for his
handlers after the Presidential ballots are printed, the Dems couldn't
reprint the forms and it would force them to use write in votes.
*****
Joe Biden has been a terrible asshole his entire life; He deserves this. His condition is deteriorating so fast that by October he will look like a bowl of mashed potatoes. It will completely destroy the democrap party if they try to make the argument that their best option is a brain dead idiot who doesn't know where he is or what year it is....DON'T EVER STOP THE ENEMY FROM COMMITTING SUICIDE.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 19, 2020 01:53 PM (h1jJh)
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We're not at all like we're being portrayed! Really!
Posted by: Carin' Karen at April 19, 2020 01:53 PM (DMUuz)
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I bet my fortune on it.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:46 PM (hku12)
350 pounds sterling?
Posted by: Squire Danaher at April 19, 2020 01:51 PM (qyH+l)
No, I got an old copy of Fortune magazine lying around here somewhere.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:46 PM (hku12)
350 pounds sterling?
Posted by: Squire Danaher at April 19, 2020 01:51 PM (qyH+l)
No, I got an old copy of Fortune magazine lying around here somewhere.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:54 PM (hku12)
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What's this?
That fascist cocksucker mayor in CA (I know, which one, right?) who unoriginally compared protesters of totalitarianism to nazis and kkk went mort via a plane crash??
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM (ir0g0)
Rack up another death to Kung Flu, that is what it is.
That fascist cocksucker mayor in CA (I know, which one, right?) who unoriginally compared protesters of totalitarianism to nazis and kkk went mort via a plane crash??
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM (ir0g0)
Rack up another death to Kung Flu, that is what it is.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 01:54 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 19, 2020 01:55 PM (DY3v8)
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So, is anything going on in Springfield, IL today, or was that fake news?
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 01:55 PM (kOpft)
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"Why is the date for Orthodox Churches' Easter different from that of Western (Roman) Churches?" was asked earlier.
Orthodox Easter takes place on a Sunday, but the date is governed by a rather complex system that is determined by three primary conditions: It must be based on the Julian calendar, not the Gregorian calendar that Roman Catholics and Protestants follow; it must be after the Jewish holiday of Passover; and it must be on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox in late March.
There are years when the two Easters coincide, and then there are years when Orthodox Easter occurs one week later. (I do not know whether it could occur two weeks later.)
Our scout troop has to take this into account because our current sponsor is an Orthodox church while our previous one was a Protestant church. Our regular meeting nights occur on Thursdays. We always have had to plan to meet somewhere else on Maunday Thursday because there is / was a service that evening.
"Why is the date for Orthodox Churches' Easter different from that of Western (Roman) Churches?" was asked earlier.
Orthodox Easter takes place on a Sunday, but the date is governed by a rather complex system that is determined by three primary conditions: It must be based on the Julian calendar, not the Gregorian calendar that Roman Catholics and Protestants follow; it must be after the Jewish holiday of Passover; and it must be on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox in late March.
There are years when the two Easters coincide, and then there are years when Orthodox Easter occurs one week later. (I do not know whether it could occur two weeks later.)
Our scout troop has to take this into account because our current sponsor is an Orthodox church while our previous one was a Protestant church. Our regular meeting nights occur on Thursdays. We always have had to plan to meet somewhere else on Maunday Thursday because there is / was a service that evening.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2020 01:55 PM (pNxlR)
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So the churches are going forward with their...
wait for it....
Chattanooga Sue-Sue?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 19, 2020 01:55 PM (DY3v
Damn. It took this long. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
wait for it....
Chattanooga Sue-Sue?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 19, 2020 01:55 PM (DY3v
Damn. It took this long. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 01:56 PM (hku12)
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"I wonder if a Pelosi funeral would last as long as a McCain funeral?"
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Has Shitstain McCain's ended yet? (In Rip Taylor voice)
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Has Shitstain McCain's ended yet? (In Rip Taylor voice)
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 19, 2020 01:57 PM (0Gva/)
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Coumo didnt shut down the subways bacause too many people actually need them. NYC is not built for cars or buses
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I think we've found the problem, in addition to the hospitals' built in inflexibility.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 19, 2020 01:52 PM (IDhUW)
This.
When all is said and done, it will be the subways (and buses). You can track the route the virus took by the subway.
Read something this morning about how the longer you were on the subway--the more stops, the more people were coming on and going off the train--the likelier you were to get exposed--and with a bigger viral load.
Add to that, the people who HAD to work took the subways.
There's your African-American over exposure.
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I think we've found the problem, in addition to the hospitals' built in inflexibility.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 19, 2020 01:52 PM (IDhUW)
This.
When all is said and done, it will be the subways (and buses). You can track the route the virus took by the subway.
Read something this morning about how the longer you were on the subway--the more stops, the more people were coming on and going off the train--the likelier you were to get exposed--and with a bigger viral load.
Add to that, the people who HAD to work took the subways.
There's your African-American over exposure.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:58 PM (CqE5x)
351
Who has standing to cause Jill Biden of elderly abuse?
Accuse the Sainted Doctor Jill? Well, neither of his two surviving kids, Hunter and Ashley, would take up that case, based on their past and current behavior.
Who has standing to cause Jill Biden of elderly abuse?
Accuse the Sainted Doctor Jill? Well, neither of his two surviving kids, Hunter and Ashley, would take up that case, based on their past and current behavior.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2020 01:58 PM (pNxlR)
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I kinda like the city of Chattanooga..Chattanooga has been berry berry good to me
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Well, Chattanooga->Tennessee River->Water->Navy
It all follows.
I kinda like the city of Chattanooga..Chattanooga has been berry berry good to me
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Well, Chattanooga->Tennessee River->Water->Navy
It all follows.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2020 01:59 PM (WD9ZA)
353
One further comment on the ProPublica article -- TFG's name was not mentioned a single time.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 19, 2020 01:59 PM (Z4rgH)
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Coumo didnt shut down the subways bacause too many people actually need them. NYC is not built for cars or buses
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Could they at least rotate cars out of service every now and then and hose them out?
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Could they at least rotate cars out of service every now and then and hose them out?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 01:59 PM (1g7ch)
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Sure, it's still moving, but eventually it's either going to explode or go careening off the road. Joe is not being pushed out yet, because they can't, but as soon as they can, they will.
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When would they be able to push him out?
I think Michelle Obama might be a replacement
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When would they be able to push him out?
I think Michelle Obama might be a replacement
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 19, 2020 02:00 PM (IDhUW)
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Add to that, the people who HAD to work took the subways.
There's your African-American over exposure.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:58 PM (CqE5x)
Also, the African-American connection to the nursing homes that have been hit extremely hard here in NJ is a real one and not spoken of.....
There's your African-American over exposure.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 01:58 PM (CqE5x)
Also, the African-American connection to the nursing homes that have been hit extremely hard here in NJ is a real one and not spoken of.....
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 02:01 PM (CqE5x)
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315
I can't remember what year it was but Obama was praised for forcing the CDC to spend most of their budget on solar panels...
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM
While trying to do a little research on this just now, I came across Solyndra.
Ironically, it was reported that its solar panel business plan failed and they were forced into bankruptcy due to... China.
https://reut.rs/3an2vVp
I can't remember what year it was but Obama was praised for forcing the CDC to spend most of their budget on solar panels...
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 19, 2020 01:44 PM
While trying to do a little research on this just now, I came across Solyndra.
Ironically, it was reported that its solar panel business plan failed and they were forced into bankruptcy due to... China.
https://reut.rs/3an2vVp
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 19, 2020 02:01 PM (Do5/p)
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Well, Chattanooga->Tennessee River->Water->Navy
It all follows.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2020 01:59 PM (WD9ZA)
Best part of Chattanooga is there's a battlefield in and around the town. You can drive to various locations, with various markers showing what happened where, and you can see it, even with all the modern town all around it.
Or go up on Lookout Mountain and see the remnants of actual trenches that are still there.
It all follows.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2020 01:59 PM (WD9ZA)
Best part of Chattanooga is there's a battlefield in and around the town. You can drive to various locations, with various markers showing what happened where, and you can see it, even with all the modern town all around it.
Or go up on Lookout Mountain and see the remnants of actual trenches that are still there.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 02:02 PM (hku12)
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Good Luck, enviro-facists trying to sell the public on mass transit after THIS.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 19, 2020 02:02 PM (CqE5x)
360
Ha! Now that Kirby from California is dead, it's no longer wrong for me to say how much I wished he was dead? Because now it's not a threat, it's not a promise, it's just History?
Whoever owns that land should set up a little roadside business, "come piss on Kirby's grave for $5.00!!!" He'd make a fortune.
Whoever owns that land should set up a little roadside business, "come piss on Kirby's grave for $5.00!!!" He'd make a fortune.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2020 02:03 PM (q3gwH)
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Sure, it's still moving, but eventually it's either going to explode or go careening off the road. Joe is not being pushed out yet, because they can't, but as soon as they can, they will.
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When would they be able to push him out?
I think Michelle Obama might be a replacement
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 19, 2020 02:00 PM (IDhUW)
I'm not sure, but I really don't think they're ruling out any options. And I do mean any.
It just seems to me the least likely option is letting him fester and stumble all the way to the finish line.
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When would they be able to push him out?
I think Michelle Obama might be a replacement
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 19, 2020 02:00 PM (IDhUW)
I'm not sure, but I really don't think they're ruling out any options. And I do mean any.
It just seems to me the least likely option is letting him fester and stumble all the way to the finish line.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2020 02:03 PM (hku12)
362
Nood Ice Making Tips needed above.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 02:03 PM (1g7ch)
363
"Ex-Mayor Who Criticized Trump's Response to Coronavirus Dies in Plane Crash"
cause of death COVID-19
cause of death COVID-19
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 19, 2020 02:03 PM (h1jJh)
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Ha! Now that Kirby from California is dead, it's no longer wrong for me to say how much I wished he was dead? Because now it's not a threat, it's not a promise, it's just History?
Whoever owns that land should set up a little roadside business, "come piss on Kirby's grave for $5.00!!!" He'd make a fortune.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2020 02:03 PM (q3gwH)
Haha...yup. Why was the good doctor flying around during this great pandemic? Wasn't he afraid of catching the China Flu and perhaps giving it to others?
Hope he was wearing a mask.......hahaha.
Rules for thee but not for me.......karma bitch.
Whoever owns that land should set up a little roadside business, "come piss on Kirby's grave for $5.00!!!" He'd make a fortune.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2020 02:03 PM (q3gwH)
Haha...yup. Why was the good doctor flying around during this great pandemic? Wasn't he afraid of catching the China Flu and perhaps giving it to others?
Hope he was wearing a mask.......hahaha.
Rules for thee but not for me.......karma bitch.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 19, 2020 02:06 PM (Z+IKu)
365
It's like Biden cut a deal with the Devil back in 1988 when he ran for the first time. "Yes, Joe, you WILL be the Dem nominee - but not this year. 32 years from now - when you're too old and mentally feeble to know what's going on."
Speaking of mentally feeble, why isn't the DNC furious at their primary voters the way the GOP establishment was pissed off at Trump voters in 2016. Assholes like Kristol attacked the base in 2016 for supposedly choosing an unelectable candidate. Dems chose a stick of wood that occasionally makes noises and yet I don't hear anybody bitterly denouncing them as dolts and saying "Jeez, not only would Bernie have been better, even Beto and Indiana bum boy would have been better. At least they can form complete sentences!"
Speaking of mentally feeble, why isn't the DNC furious at their primary voters the way the GOP establishment was pissed off at Trump voters in 2016. Assholes like Kristol attacked the base in 2016 for supposedly choosing an unelectable candidate. Dems chose a stick of wood that occasionally makes noises and yet I don't hear anybody bitterly denouncing them as dolts and saying "Jeez, not only would Bernie have been better, even Beto and Indiana bum boy would have been better. At least they can form complete sentences!"
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at April 19, 2020 02:07 PM (d6Ksn)
366
So I heard Stelter had a meltdown. What happened?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2020 02:09 PM (V3Hgw)
367
I'm not sure, but I really don't think they're ruling out any options. And I do mean any.
It just seems to me the least likely option is letting him fester and stumble all the way to the finish line.
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It may as well be any, as none of them are any good.
Trump's first debate question to them is going to be "Where the fuck were you during the kung flu?" and none of them have any good answers
Joe of course will be lucky to drool on his shoe at that point.
It just seems to me the least likely option is letting him fester and stumble all the way to the finish line.
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It may as well be any, as none of them are any good.
Trump's first debate question to them is going to be "Where the fuck were you during the kung flu?" and none of them have any good answers
Joe of course will be lucky to drool on his shoe at that point.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 02:09 PM (kOpft)
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Glad that the church is suing the city. It's outrageous the church can't have drive in services when they allow drive in restaurant eating.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2020 02:11 PM (WI7YS)
369
So another wuflu story. BIL has a cousin with advanced MS. She's wheelchair bound, and extremely disabled. She was diagnosed with wuflu and went to a hospital. Miraculously a few hours later her O2 levels went from low 70s to mid 90s. They gave her an off label MS drug.....yup plaquenil.
Trumpicillin to the rescue of an old lib who will vote for Stacy Abrams before PDT.
Trumpicillin to the rescue of an old lib who will vote for Stacy Abrams before PDT.
Posted by: CN at April 19, 2020 02:12 PM (ONvIw)
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I missed the task brief meeting yest, and the thread, but I watched it before bed.
Trump was VERY disturbed. He seemed distracted, and reflective. He mentioned him keeping the US out of war with the Norks, and touched on consequences for China.
To me, it seemed he had just come out of a meeting with very bad news. This was very disturbing. It bothered me that the press did not seem to notice and did not ask him. Now maybe my past experience with similar personality types helped, or maybe I am nuts, but it was very obvious to me that he was unhappy and for cause.
Some in the thread said he repeated himself too much, but that was a sign of distraction. Usually he does this when he is tired or bored and just needs to answer, but yest. was different.
Tucker said that the intelligence community is near unanimous that the bug came from a lab. So they are telling him and trying to get it reported. I wonder if they are doing that because they have another shoe to drop like it was part of bio weapon research, or that the US can not avoid serous consequences on china.
Miles Gao, on Steve Bannon seemed to be saying it was deliberate act of war, but it was hard to understand him and he may have been talking through his hat, but the whole situation makes me wonder.
I do not think it was deliberate, but I am having a hard time thinking that the US can avoid serious action against China, and China will retaliate by invading neighbors and things will go to bad places.
Thoughts?
Trump was VERY disturbed. He seemed distracted, and reflective. He mentioned him keeping the US out of war with the Norks, and touched on consequences for China.
To me, it seemed he had just come out of a meeting with very bad news. This was very disturbing. It bothered me that the press did not seem to notice and did not ask him. Now maybe my past experience with similar personality types helped, or maybe I am nuts, but it was very obvious to me that he was unhappy and for cause.
Some in the thread said he repeated himself too much, but that was a sign of distraction. Usually he does this when he is tired or bored and just needs to answer, but yest. was different.
Tucker said that the intelligence community is near unanimous that the bug came from a lab. So they are telling him and trying to get it reported. I wonder if they are doing that because they have another shoe to drop like it was part of bio weapon research, or that the US can not avoid serous consequences on china.
Miles Gao, on Steve Bannon seemed to be saying it was deliberate act of war, but it was hard to understand him and he may have been talking through his hat, but the whole situation makes me wonder.
I do not think it was deliberate, but I am having a hard time thinking that the US can avoid serious action against China, and China will retaliate by invading neighbors and things will go to bad places.
Thoughts?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 19, 2020 02:13 PM (LWu6U)
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"Trump's first debate question to them is going to be
"Where the fuck were you during the kung flu?" and none of them have
any good answers
Joe of course will be lucky to drool on his shoe at that point.
Posted by: Methos"
He came out strongly against the racist nature of the pandemic. And called the grand kids daily. Which will be more than enough for the MSM.
"Where the fuck were you during the kung flu?" and none of them have
any good answers
Joe of course will be lucky to drool on his shoe at that point.
Posted by: Methos"
He came out strongly against the racist nature of the pandemic. And called the grand kids daily. Which will be more than enough for the MSM.
Posted by: Ripley at April 19, 2020 02:14 PM (MxEKc)
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365 It's like Biden cut a deal with the Devil back in 1988 when he ran for the first time. "Yes, Joe, you WILL be the Dem nominee - but not this year. 32 years from now - when you're too old and mentally feeble to know what's going on."
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V a
Ha. You nailed it. This is very good analysis.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V a
Ha. You nailed it. This is very good analysis.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 19, 2020 02:16 PM (LWu6U)
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Wot aboot the Chatanooga Cho Cho...platforn #1 in the spreading the virus a.ka NY Subway and buses??????
Posted by: saf at April 19, 2020 02:18 PM (5IHGB)
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China's problems are of China's making. The bill for years of corruption and incompetence (on galactic levels) are coming due.
China's problems are of China's making. The bill for years of corruption and incompetence (on galactic levels) are coming due.
Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2020 02:22 PM (Pqytn)
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I do not think it was deliberate, but I am having a
hard time thinking that the US can avoid serious action against China,
and China will retaliate by invading neighbors and things will go to bad
places.
Thoughts?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest
I can't buy into the deliberate act of war theory. Why would China attack and seek to destroy the largest market for their endless mountains of junk, not to mention debtor? Just damaging us like they are now is going to cause them enormous pain. It makes no sense.
hard time thinking that the US can avoid serious action against China,
and China will retaliate by invading neighbors and things will go to bad
places.
Thoughts?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest
I can't buy into the deliberate act of war theory. Why would China attack and seek to destroy the largest market for their endless mountains of junk, not to mention debtor? Just damaging us like they are now is going to cause them enormous pain. It makes no sense.
Posted by: Ripley at April 19, 2020 02:22 PM (MxEKc)
376
I do not think it was deliberate, but I am having a hard time thinking that the US can avoid serious action against China, and China will retaliate by invading neighbors and things will go to bad places.
Thoughts?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 19, 2020 02:13 PM (LWu6U)
If a country is making a bio-weapon and it gets lose and infects another country is that materially different than if the source country unleashed it deliberately?
No.
Thoughts?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 19, 2020 02:13 PM (LWu6U)
If a country is making a bio-weapon and it gets lose and infects another country is that materially different than if the source country unleashed it deliberately?
No.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 02:22 PM (1g7ch)
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Miles Gao, on Steve Bannon seemed to be saying it was deliberate act of
war, but it was hard to understand him and he may have been talking
through his hat, but the whole situation makes me wonder.
I do not think it was deliberate, but I am having a hard time
thinking that the US can avoid serious action against China, and China
will retaliate by invading neighbors and things will go to bad places.
---
What we know of China's internal response suggests to me the release was accidental and they didn't want anyone knowing the research was going on.
But while they shut down internal flights to get it under control, they let international flights continue, while their plant at the WHO insisted there wa no real problem. Those actions deliberately caused the deaths of people around the world, making it an act of war even if the initial cause had been in the wet market. How we respond, since a nuclear exchange is undesirable, is an open question, but the fact is they hit us with a WMD first.
The problem is, the nonviolent response Trump appears to be leaning towards, bringing the manufacturing home and ending trade with China, is not terribly dissimilar from steps we took to shut down Japan's oil supply in the days before Pearl Harbor.
war, but it was hard to understand him and he may have been talking
through his hat, but the whole situation makes me wonder.
I do not think it was deliberate, but I am having a hard time
thinking that the US can avoid serious action against China, and China
will retaliate by invading neighbors and things will go to bad places.
---
What we know of China's internal response suggests to me the release was accidental and they didn't want anyone knowing the research was going on.
But while they shut down internal flights to get it under control, they let international flights continue, while their plant at the WHO insisted there wa no real problem. Those actions deliberately caused the deaths of people around the world, making it an act of war even if the initial cause had been in the wet market. How we respond, since a nuclear exchange is undesirable, is an open question, but the fact is they hit us with a WMD first.
The problem is, the nonviolent response Trump appears to be leaning towards, bringing the manufacturing home and ending trade with China, is not terribly dissimilar from steps we took to shut down Japan's oil supply in the days before Pearl Harbor.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 02:22 PM (kOpft)
378
The problem is, the nonviolent response Trump appears to be leaning towards, bringing the manufacturing home and ending trade with China, is not terribly dissimilar from steps we took to shut down Japan's oil supply in the days before Pearl Harbor.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 02:22 PM (kOpft)
As I said the other day, in retaliation for no longer trading with China they will sneak attack Guam and occupy nearby island nations. Then hope the US gets bored and sues for peace.
Make no mistake, China is aggressive.
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2020 02:22 PM (kOpft)
As I said the other day, in retaliation for no longer trading with China they will sneak attack Guam and occupy nearby island nations. Then hope the US gets bored and sues for peace.
Make no mistake, China is aggressive.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2020 02:27 PM (1g7ch)
379
366 So I heard Stelter had a meltdown. What happened?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2020 02:09 PM (V3Hgw)
He went Full Chris Hayes on Twitter and publicly confessed to crying / sobbing.
Never go Full Chris Hayes.
366 So I heard Stelter had a meltdown. What happened?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2020 02:09 PM (V3Hgw)
He went Full Chris Hayes on Twitter and publicly confessed to crying / sobbing.
Never go Full Chris Hayes.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2020 02:27 PM (pNxlR)
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Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 19, 2020 02:13 PM (LWu6U)
********
Steve Bannon was dumped because he was leaking like a sieve & was closing off PDT to anyone but his mindset
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Steve Bannon was dumped because he was leaking like a sieve & was closing off PDT to anyone but his mindset
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 19, 2020 02:30 PM (0Gva/)
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The problem is, the nonviolent response Trump appears to be leaning towards, bringing the manufacturing home and ending trade with China, is not terribly dissimilar from steps we took to shut down Japan's oil supply in the days before Pearl Harbor.
Posted by: Methos
The difference is that Japan was puny and not interested in destroying the West. And FDR had the power to take whatever actions were needed.
My fear is that China will use all it's power gained by corrupting our media, elites, businesses, and allies to prevent the US from taking those actions.
Trump was really disturbed yesterday, so much so that I plan to watch his talk again.
Posted by: Methos
The difference is that Japan was puny and not interested in destroying the West. And FDR had the power to take whatever actions were needed.
My fear is that China will use all it's power gained by corrupting our media, elites, businesses, and allies to prevent the US from taking those actions.
Trump was really disturbed yesterday, so much so that I plan to watch his talk again.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 19, 2020 02:31 PM (LWu6U)
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https://nws.mx/2yrp0Ls
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Acting DNI Grenell Is Succeeding, Angering Susan Rice and Adam Schiff | Newsmax.com
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Acting DNI Grenell Is Succeeding, Angering Susan Rice and Adam Schiff | Newsmax.com
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 19, 2020 02:32 PM (0Gva/)
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I wonder if a Pelosi funeral would last as long as a McCain funeral?
Posted by: Infidel at April 19, 2020 01:16 PM (nvc6v)
I believe it will be one long ass celebration.
I wonder if a Pelosi funeral would last as long as a McCain funeral?
Posted by: Infidel at April 19, 2020 01:16 PM (nvc6v)
I believe it will be one long ass celebration.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 19, 2020 02:38 PM (9Om/r)
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How does Cuomo help the Democrats in states they NEED to take from Trump.
Easy. They go the the cemeteries and sign them up. Then "harvest the ballots or mail them in.
Easy. They go the the cemeteries and sign them up. Then "harvest the ballots or mail them in.
Posted by: Grannymimi at April 19, 2020 02:43 PM (u5LFV)
385
I am not a fan of Bannon, but I put on his podcast as a I work.
He thinks he is a lot smarter than he is and insists upon himself. He wanted to shut down the country hard for a month, all of it. he could not explain why though. He has moved on from that without admitting the foolishness of shutting it all down, or what we would do to open up.
He thinks he is a lot smarter than he is and insists upon himself. He wanted to shut down the country hard for a month, all of it. he could not explain why though. He has moved on from that without admitting the foolishness of shutting it all down, or what we would do to open up.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 19, 2020 02:45 PM (LWu6U)
386
Anyone see the corpse of Madeleine Albright on tv this morning? It's hard to look that dead and still be breathing.
Hold mybeer "Ensure"...
Hold my
Posted by: Notorious RBG at April 19, 2020 02:52 PM (whOIk)
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Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 19, 2020 02:32 PM (0Gva/)
Thank for the article.
I am impressed with Richard Grenell. I usually pray for Trump's entire MAGA team. Perhaps I should add him by name considering the enemies he has.
Thank for the article.
I am impressed with Richard Grenell. I usually pray for Trump's entire MAGA team. Perhaps I should add him by name considering the enemies he has.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2020 03:38 PM (WI7YS)
388
First you buy ventilators from your friends and families
Then you let them rot
Then you sell them for pennies on the dollar to your friends and familiy
WASH RINSE REPEAT
Then you let them rot
Then you sell them for pennies on the dollar to your friends and familiy
WASH RINSE REPEAT
Posted by: torabora at April 19, 2020 04:04 PM (Y274z)
389
Its amazing how a pandemic can bring out the little hitlers in the leftist ranks.....
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My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat