Rand Paul's Annual Airing of Festivus Grievances

Those tweets below.

Also amusing: This Christmas' hottest merch is "Epstein Did Not Kill Himself" sweaters and ornaments.

Following the August death of convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, a rash of sweaters, Christmas tree ornaments and other holiday goods have appeared on retail sites like Amazon and Etsy touting conspiracies that the 66-year-old was murdered.

"Christmas lights are a lot like Epstein -- they don't hang themselves," reads one $19.80 sweater on Amazon featuring the 66-year-old in a Santa hat. Plenty of ornaments also include the allegation, including this one, which also features a noose.

"During Christmas, an elf may sit on a shelf, but Epstein didn't kill himself," says another Amazon sweater, available starting at $29.99 in eight different colors.














This is amusing:



Posted by: Ace of Spades at 03:16 PM




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1 OT: first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, source of random movie thoughts at December 23, 2019 03:17 PM (q80AH)

2 meep meep motherfuckers

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 03:18 PM (d7Ww2)

3 I wonder how the deep state is taking this show of disobedience from the masses.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 23, 2019 03:18 PM (YslsA)

4 frist

Posted by: mnw at December 23, 2019 03:18 PM (Cssks)

5 Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 23, 2019 03:19 PM (KUaJL)

6 You know something, that was fun from Rand Paul. It'a why I just can't stay mad at him. He talks and acts like a chill dude, and has left crazy libertarianism behind.

Plus, unlike many, he's suffered for his cause.

Posted by: trev006 at December 23, 2019 03:20 PM (aDkrc)

7 Rand Paul standup is deeply weird. I keep expecting him to say "Take my fiat currency! Please!"

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 23, 2019 03:20 PM (RD7QR)

8 yes, a Christmas movie.

I just watched it again a couple of weeks ago.


Bruce Willis was an angel.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 23, 2019 03:20 PM (sy5kK)

9 5 Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 23, 2019 03:19 PM (KUaJL)

Yes, I see this all the time in Chrome.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 23, 2019 03:21 PM (RD7QR)

10 "Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously"


No. But I keep getting a picture of Jennifer Anniston without makeup that is ruining my fantasies.

Posted by: Benji Carver at December 23, 2019 03:22 PM (OD2ni)

11 I can't bring myself to look at the responses to those tweets. I assume the pinch-faced scolds are REEEEE-ing in response?

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 23, 2019 03:22 PM (qy1p+)

12 Neocon Apprentice is just utterly perfect.

And the one about sitting through the trial? Oh yes, right into my veins.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 03:23 PM (mf5HN)

13 >>Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?

The airing of the grievances has begun.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2019 03:23 PM (ZLI7S)

14 I DID NOT EMBIGGEN THE BLOG!

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 03:23 PM (mf5HN)

15 I'm glad Rand Paul still has a sense of humor.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 03:24 PM (I2dne)

16 13 >>Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?

The airing of the grievances has begun.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2019 03:23 PM (ZLI7S)

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That wasn't the Star Wars thread?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, source of random movie thoughts at December 23, 2019 03:24 PM (q80AH)

17 14 I DID NOT EMBIGGEN THE BLOG!
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 03:23 PM (mf5HN)

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*twitches at joke potentials*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, source of random movie thoughts at December 23, 2019 03:24 PM (q80AH)

18 I wonder how the deep state is taking this show of disobedience from the masses.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 23, 2019 03:18 PM (YslsA)
+++++++++++++
Hopefully in cold sweat and abject terror.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 03:24 PM (I2dne)

19 Rand Paul was at the softball field, too? Yes?

Posted by: hope solo at December 23, 2019 03:24 PM (ngSZO)

20
At least Joe is younger and more with it than Bernie Sanders. Bernie
looks like the guy who chose the wrong cup in Indiana Jones.



ahahaha. That's too funny

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 23, 2019 03:25 PM (REzVc)

21 Funny guy. Did not know he had it in him.

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 03:25 PM (90T4r)

22 Rand Paul bringin' it.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2019 03:25 PM (pI4nx)

23 Bernie
looks like the guy who chose the wrong cup in Indiana Jones.

--

More like the knight guarding it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 23, 2019 03:25 PM (YslsA)

24 I like Rand Paul

Posted by: x at December 23, 2019 03:26 PM (nFwvY)

25 The Feats of Strength!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2019 03:26 PM (pI4nx)

26 2
meep meep motherfuckers



Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 03:18 PM (d7Ww2)


This always cracks me up...ya know cause you're such a shy, delicate flower and all.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 23, 2019 03:26 PM (VqhL9)

27 I think Rand Paul and his father may well be right more often then not.I can't decide whether that is amusing or scary...

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at December 23, 2019 03:26 PM (BKTpn)

28 Does this mean Die Hard WAS a Christmas movie?

Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2019 03:27 PM (M0u+N)

29 24 I like Rand Paul
Posted by: x at December 23, 2019 03:26 PM (nFwvY)


I do too, until the family curse comes to the surface...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2019 03:27 PM (zBaqJ)

30 28 Does this mean Die Hard WAS a Christmas movie?
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2019 03:27 PM (M0u+N)

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It's at least a hot dog sandwich.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, source of random movie thoughts at December 23, 2019 03:27 PM (q80AH)

31 26 2
meep meep motherfuckers



Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 03:18 PM (d7Ww2)


This always cracks me up...ya know cause you're such a shy, delicate flower and all.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob



heh.
still waiting for you and Heidi to get out here so we can have dinner and drinks and perhaps time at the range together.

Make it so!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 03:28 PM (d7Ww2)

32 This is an example of why I like Rand Paul... He obviously doesn't like PDT very much (as a person or a President) - but he's not a backbiting little bitchy #NT cunt.

He calls him like he's sees 'em, supports the President where he's right and hits him when he's (as Paul sees it, anyway) wrong. In public. Like a man.

Instead of, say, blindsiding him while he's mowing his lawn, which is roughly equivalent to much of the GOP leadership's behavior toward PRESIDENT Trump.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at December 23, 2019 03:28 PM (Adu0z)

33 Rand Paul was at the softball field, too? Yes?
Posted by: hope solo at December 23, 2019 03:24 PM (ngSZO)


Yes, yes, he was.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 03:28 PM (mf5HN)

34 "The airing of the grievances has begun.
Posted by: JackStraw"


Bagels No.

Festivus Yes.

Posted by: Benji Carver at December 23, 2019 03:28 PM (OD2ni)

35 30 28 Does this mean Die Hard WAS a Christmas movie?
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2019 03:27 PM (M0u+N)

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It's at least a hot dog sandwich.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, source of random movie thoughts at December 23, 2019 03:27 PM (q80AH)


I remember a menu item at Canter's Deli in LA called a Buck Benny which was a sandwich but the meat was hotdogs.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2019 03:29 PM (zBaqJ)

36 Seems to me that the only guy with a real grievance this Christmas season would be Jeffery Epstein.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 23, 2019 03:29 PM (kUmUV)

37 Rand Paul is mostly right about policy, occasionally hugely wrong on foreign policy, and about the only guy who really gets it about the fundamental framework of limited federal government.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at December 23, 2019 03:29 PM (koNhm)

38 More like the knight guarding it.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 23, 2019 03:25 PM (YslsA)

Nah. That guy had an ideal that was not full of shit. A sense of peace. Seemed to be content with living simply. Actually wise.

The Knight is probably my favorite character in Indiana Jones.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 23, 2019 03:29 PM (ycWCI)

39 Pretty humorous for a guy with one lung.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 23, 2019 03:29 PM (1CjJc)

40 Make it so!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 03:28 PM (d7Ww2)
++++++++++++
https://tinyurl.com/tmwtsvb

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 03:29 PM (I2dne)

41 Rand Paul is not a backstabbing bastard like some GOPers. I would vote for him.

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 03:29 PM (90T4r)

42 It's at least a hot dog sandwich.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Mmmm...I love those hot dog sandwiches I'll tell ya.

Posted by: eleven channeling Joe Biden at December 23, 2019 03:29 PM (M0u+N)

43 From the last thread, re: Daisy Ridley appears androgynous. No appeal whatsoever.

+++

yeah, I think woke SJW Marvel and other terrible entertainment corporate shills have this problem with sexy bitches.

Like comics n' diversity points out, pretty girls are oppressive, so they draw them real ugly.

It's like the Sandra Fluke, that's no funny meme template is the template for female sexuality to the left.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:30 PM (FEQY4)

44 27 I think Rand Paul and his father may well be right more often then not.I can't decide whether that is amusing or scary...
Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at December 23, 2019 03:26 PM (BKTpn)


His father is kind of a wack-a-doo with some dubious associations. That said, I do agree with nuking the Fed and going back on to the gold standard.

Silver dimes!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2019 03:30 PM (zBaqJ)

45 Cloyd Rivers has really funny Epstein hoodies.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 03:30 PM (d7Ww2)

46 I did it MYYYYYYYY way.

Posted by: Rand P. at December 23, 2019 03:30 PM (koNhm)

47 There's a place here that cuts hot dogs half twice so it's four half circular sections. Then they serve it on a hamburger bun.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 03:30 PM (xfb67)

48 Is this the Rand Paul that opposed Trump's tariffs on Mexico if they didn't step up and try to do something about all the f*cking illegals streaming across our borders and killing our citizens?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rosemary Collyer didn't kill herself at December 23, 2019 03:30 PM (Kjtec)

49
Rand Paul is mostly right about policy, occasionally hugely wrong on foreign policy, and about the only guy who really gets it about the fundamental framework of limited federal government.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at December 23, 2019 03:29 PM (koNhm)

-------

And he strikes me as one of the only honest men in DC.

I disagree with Paul on some things.

But I respect him.

And while that isn't an *important* thing, I'll say that's exceedingly rare for me to say that about a g-ddamned politician.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (Adu0z)

50
28 Does this mean Die Hard WAS a Christmas movie?
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2019 03:27 PM (M0u+N)


Is Bismarck a herring?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (pNxlR)

51 Enjoy it for now, because Hot dog Sandwiches are about to become so 2019.

The new hotness for 2020: Hamburger Sandwiches.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (H9cB7)

52 6 You know something, that was fun from Rand Paul. It'a why I just can't stay mad at him. He talks and acts like a chill dude, and has left crazy libertarianism behind.

Plus, unlike many, he's suffered for his cause.
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What you said. He isn't making any friends on the other side of the aisle and he doesn't care. I think he still cares about libertarianism but realizes that you have to pick your fights. His old man was all in even if it hurt his cause.

Posted by: Groundhog at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (VYwSh)

53 I still want to give many of my friends a "Greta on a Shelf gift" - very sad that hasn't been made.

Posted by: Boswell at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (32YRo)

54 16 13 >>Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?

The airing of the grievances has begun.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2

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Jesus Christ, the twitter stuff is so annoying. Either it loads, spurgily bouncing around or it's just a dead link, empty box.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (FEQY4)

55 6 You know something, that was fun from Rand Paul. It'a why I just can't stay mad at him. He talks and acts like a chill dude, and has left crazy libertarianism behind.

Plus, unlike many, he's suffered for his cause.
Posted by: trev006 at December 23, 2019 03:20 PM (aDkrc)



He is much more canny than his father. I can't dislike him as a result.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (ujg0T)

56 .

still waiting for you and Heidi to get out here so we can have dinner and drinks and perhaps time at the range together.



Make it so!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 03:28 PM (d7Ww2)

It'll happen babe.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 23, 2019 03:32 PM (VqhL9)

57 53 I still want to give many of my friends a "Greta on a Shelf gift" - very sad that hasn't been made.
Posted by: Boswell at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (32YRo)


Someone could make a fortune on them.

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 03:32 PM (90T4r)

58 "Kentucky Senator Rand Paul (R) stopped by the Bowling Green Chamber of Commerce Thursday and discussed an array of topics including his disapproval of President Donald Trump's plan to impose a 5% tariff on all imported goods from Mexico."

https://tinyurl.com/yx5nejyn

--

HAHAHAHA

Yep, same one. I especially love the bolded part.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rosemary Collyer didn't kill herself at December 23, 2019 03:33 PM (Kjtec)

59 from the last thread:
->
They deliberately alienated the loyal fan base in order to please the SJW vermin on twitter because like most progs, they think their values are the future, so that's where the money is.

====

yeah, global corporate entertainment has a real problem with you people and your values.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:33 PM (FEQY4)

60 5 Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 23, 2019 03:19 PM (KUaJL)

Joe, you certainly are living dangerously.

Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:33 PM (qEujL)

61 Any one else see that commercial where the guy is selling hampbergers shaped like hot dogs?

And then the guy says, "That's not in our wheelhouse." And the other guy says, "You don't put it in your wheelhouse, you put it in your mouth."

That really cracked me up.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 03:33 PM (xfb67)

62 Did Rand tell anybody to try the veal?

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 03:33 PM (kD8Fh)

63 48 Is this the Rand Paul that opposed Trump's tariffs on Mexico if they didn't step up and try to do something about all the f*cking illegals streaming across our borders and killing our citizens?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rosemary Collyer didn't kill herself at December 23, 2019 03:30 PM (Kjtec)



You would think the limited government types would be all pro-"revenue tariffs" as opposed to "protective tariffs", the way government was largely financed before any income taxes.

We have come a long way..... :-(

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 03:33 PM (ujg0T)

64 Read not to long ago the Wicked Witch of the Left thinks her 1/2 of a impeachment will be a mark on Trump he won't be able to get out from.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2019 03:34 PM (ZCEU2)

65 54 16 13 >>Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?

The airing of the grievances has begun.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2

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Jesus Christ, the twitter stuff is so annoying. Either it loads, spurgily bouncing around or it's just a dead link, empty box.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (FEQY4)

Yep, me too. Kind of sucks. Like twitter sucky.

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 03:34 PM (90T4r)

66 John McClane came upon a midnight clear.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 23, 2019 03:34 PM (+y/Ru)

67 Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 23, 2019 03:19 PM (KUaJL)

Yes. It picks a spot in the comments and will always take me right there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 23, 2019 03:34 PM (ycWCI)

68

How soon before the Thought Police at Amazon pull the Epstein sweaters

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 23, 2019 03:34 PM (REzVc)

69 Did Rand tell anybody to try the veal?
Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 03:33 PM (kD8Fh)
++++++++++++
Nah. He told 'em to try the waitresses.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 03:34 PM (I2dne)

70 Ya know what I'm tired of here? getting damn prostate health adds on this page with illustrations.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 23, 2019 03:34 PM (VqhL9)

71 That tweet from Sen Paul is funny

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2019 03:35 PM (ZCEU2)

72 His father is kind of a wack-a-doo with some dubious associations. That said, I do agree with nuking the Fed and going back on to the gold standard.

Silver dimes!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2019 03:30 PM (zBaqJ)



You know, for all the Crazy Uncle/Granddad aspects of Ron Paul, that was not one of them. Do we REALLY like "quantitatively eased" more or less permanent inflation money?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 03:35 PM (ujg0T)

73 Its because you guys keep talking about surprise otter!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 23, 2019 03:35 PM (VqhL9)

74 Silver dimes!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

*cues up Cajun accordion*

"I got a shekel in my shoe..."

Posted by: Miklos, taking no chances at December 23, 2019 03:35 PM (QzkSJ)

75 YOU'VE STOLEN MY ELFHOOD AND MY DREAMS!

Posted by: Scoldilocks at December 23, 2019 03:36 PM (H9cB7)

76 Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 23, 2019 03:19 PM (KUaJL)
+++++++++++++
I think the comments render, then the Twitter embeds come in. So when you refresh, it actually does go back to where you were, but then jumps around as the embeds render and all of the relative positions change.

The longer you wait to refresh, the less jumpy it will be. If you rack up 25-50 comments (maybe more - there is a lot of Twitter in this one), it will end up landing you right back where you left off because there is more below your position than above it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 03:36 PM (I2dne)

77 I've got an EDKH Christmas sweater - it's the perfect Jewish holiday accessory.

So, update on women - girl who I was getting along pretty well with (went on 3 dates, had 4th planned) leaves me a hurried voicemail last week - her dad is in the hospital so she's flying out to Florida tomorrow. Says that last time this happened she was down there for months, so figured we should just end things. I told her to at least give me a ring when she was coming back into town.

Went on a first date last night that went well, except that when she found out I live with my folks she went cold. We talked it over and she said it's not a deal breaker, but it sounds like she's going to make me jump through a lot of hoops just to prove I'm "self-sufficient" so I dont forsee this working. She's a black girl and a friend of mine told me this isn't uncommon in that community - guys who dont live on their own are seen as scrubs/busters/etc.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)

78 I Festivus-poled Nancy. Yugely.

Posted by: Teh Donald at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (sWM8x)

79
John McClane came upon a midnight clear.


Reminder: Check what's downrange before you fap.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (xkSJa)

80 64 reading that I'm now wondering if she isn't going to send it to the Senate.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (ZCEU2)

81 Read not to long ago the Wicked Witch of the Left thinks her 1/2 of a impeachment will be a mark on Trump he won't be able to get out from.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2019 03:34 PM (ZCEU2)


She *still* doesn't get him. Actually, I don't think any of us fully appreciate the awesome and irrefutable magic of the GSW.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (kD8Fh)

82 Sorry, broke the 100 comment rule - I thought things would have been going faster.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)

83 Rand Paul (R) stopped by the Bowling Green Chamber of Commerce Thursday and discussed an array of topics including his disapproval of President Donald Trump's plan

***********

Rand Paul is an example of what happens when adherence to political ideology makes you blind to reality.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (+dsLj)

84 Rand Paul was at the softball field, too? Yes?


Posted by: hope solo at December 23, 2019 03:24 PM (ngSZO)

He was.

Posted by: Vendette at December 23, 2019 03:38 PM (un8gM)

85 I still want to give many of my friends a "Greta on a Shelf gift" - very sad that hasn't been made.
Posted by: Boswell

The Cease and Desist letter will start with "How dare you!"

Posted by: Miklos, not an attorney in your state or province at December 23, 2019 03:38 PM (QzkSJ)

86 The Knight is probably my favorite character in Indiana Jones.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 23, 2019 03:29 PM (ycWCI)

Mine too. a knight from the Middle Ages speaking perfectly comprehensible modern English. Did he have a TV down there or something?

Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:38 PM (qEujL)

87 I have actual silver coins lying around the house. They do make a satisfying tinkling noise when poured from hand to hand, or hand to jar. Modern money, pretty dull and clunky.

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 03:38 PM (90T4r)

88 Rand Paul is an example of what happens when adherence to political ideology makes you blind to reality.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (+dsLj)

--

Odds are that if you don't bend your knee to the Chamber of Commerce you are going to lose your election.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rosemary Collyer didn't kill herself at December 23, 2019 03:39 PM (Kjtec)

89 >>The Knight is probably my favorite character in Indiana Jones.

You have chosen, poorly.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2019 03:39 PM (ZLI7S)

90 Randy: when you're riding the John Deere, you need to keep your head on a swivel

Posted by: Regular joe at December 23, 2019 03:39 PM (6/uwW)

91 The Krampus will be visiting Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: Archer at December 23, 2019 03:39 PM (gmo/4)

92 She *still* doesn't get him. Actually, I don't think any of us fully appreciate the awesome and irrefutable magic of the GSW.
Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (kD8Fh)
+++++++++++++
Gun Shot Wound?
Golden State Warriors?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 03:39 PM (I2dne)

93 Jesus Christ, the twitter stuff is so annoying. Either it loads, spurgily bouncing around or it's just a dead link, empty box.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (FEQY4)


"spurgily"?


*thumbs through AoSHQ dictionary*

'...to spurge mightily.'

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 23, 2019 03:39 PM (VqhL9)

94 Rand Paul is also an example of how you can respectfully disagree with the President without calling him Satan.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 23, 2019 03:39 PM (+dsLj)

95 irrefutable magic of the GSW.
Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (kD8Fh)
+++++++++++++
Gun Shot Wound?
Golden State Warriors?

****

Go Sod Wankers

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 23, 2019 03:40 PM (+dsLj)

96 He is much more canny than his father. I can't dislike him as a result.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (ujg0T)

I can't be mad at Rand, and I can't be mad at Collins either. They've always been what they are, and they give the R's good perspective on the issues.

Any ill feelings I may have harbored toward Collins disappeared during her Kavanaugh speech last year.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 23, 2019 03:40 PM (iuFgi)

97 Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)

We're on her side.

Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:41 PM (qEujL)

98 82
Sorry, broke the 100 comment rule - I thought things would have been going faster.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)

So you were 'leading' the comments? huh. Smart.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 23, 2019 03:41 PM (VqhL9)

99 One more reason why I like Paul, and then I'll give it a rest:

He still lives in his community full-time, and practices as an ophthalmologist - a real job, and one where he does significant outreach to bring eye care to poor people through the Lions Club.

He's an actual fuckin' American in government.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at December 23, 2019 03:42 PM (Adu0z)

100 The Cease and Desist letter will start with "How dare you!"
Posted by: Miklos, not an attorney in your state or province at December 23, 2019 03:38 PM (QzkSJ)

That depends on what kind of a taste I'm gettin'. I'm a reasonable gal. Let's talk business.

Posted by: Scoldilocks at December 23, 2019 03:42 PM (H9cB7)

101 QOTD:

"Sometimes people are reading hieroglyphs written on the inside of their eyelids."

-Sarah Hoyt

A perfect description of the TDS reactionary left.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 23, 2019 03:42 PM (T09ml)

102 93 Jesus Christ, the twitter stuff is so annoying. Either it loads, spurgily bouncing around or it's just a dead link, empty box.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:31 PM (FEQY4)

So nice to see prayers at the HQ.

Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:42 PM (qEujL)

103 Mine too. a knight from the Middle Ages speaking perfectly comprehensible modern English. Did he have a TV down there or something?
Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:38 PM (qEujL)
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Well, he's spent several hundred years around sacred objects. Perhaps he picked up the gift of tongues.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 23, 2019 03:43 PM (8pIXS)

104 95
irrefutable magic of the GSW.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 03:37 PM (kD8Fh)

+++++++++++++

Gun Shot Wound?

Golden State Warriors?



****



Go Sod Wankers

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 23, 2019 03:40 PM (+dsLj)

Good Ship Wowwypop?

Posted by: Wei Tu Lo at December 23, 2019 03:43 PM (1CjJc)

105 95 irrefutable magic of the GSW.
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Gun Shot Wound?
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Golden State Warriors?
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Go Sod Wankers
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German Shepherd Weasel

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 23, 2019 03:44 PM (sWM8x)

106 I don't mean to be a bitch. Broseidon,

why do you still live with your parents?

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 03:44 PM (d7Ww2)

107 103 Mine too. a knight from the Middle Ages speaking perfectly comprehensible modern English. Did he have a TV down there or something?
Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:38 PM (qEujL)
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Well, he's spent several hundred years around sacred objects. Perhaps he picked up the gift of tongues.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 23, 2019 03:43 PM (8pIXS)

It certainly is miraculous, considering we can't even understand people from Scotland.

Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:45 PM (qEujL)

108 GSW

Gilded Skullcap Wombat

Posted by: banana Dream at December 23, 2019 03:46 PM (l6b3d)

109 It certainly is miraculous, considering we can't even understand people from Scotland.
Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:45 PM (qEujL)

I think that's Wales.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 23, 2019 03:46 PM (ycWCI)

110 95 irrefutable magic of the GSW.
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Gun Shot Wound?
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Golden State Warriors?
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Go Sod Wankers
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German Shepherd Weasel
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 23, 2019 03:44 PM (sWM8x)

Gepstein
Stidintkill
Wimself

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 23, 2019 03:46 PM (iuFgi)

111 106 I don't mean to be a bitch. Broseidon,

why do you still live with your parents?
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 03:44 PM (d7Ww2)



Where I live, this is sadly all too common, even with people with great jobs. Although many of our generation are now *caring* for our elderly parents, so there is that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 03:46 PM (ujg0T)

112 German Scottish Wop.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 23, 2019 03:46 PM (ycWCI)

113 "John McClane came upon a midnight clear.

Reminder: Check what's downrange before you fap.
Posted by: Blanco Basura -"


Mrs. McClane had a huge forehead. Very distracting.

Posted by: Benji Carver at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (OD2ni)

114
5 Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the page?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 23, 2019 03:19 PM (KUaJL)


Yes. It's because when the page first loads the tweets are all just text and the twitter embed imagery take a second to load. So it jumps you to where you left off and then loads all the Twitter stuff so it pushes it down farther. It's less of an issue when there are a large number of comments posted between refreshes.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (IUxk6)

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (xfb67)

116 Grandparents - parents are dead.

They need a lot of help around the house - and also, it's a nice house in a convenient place for me work-wise and I don't need to pay rent. I'm very used to it and averse to change. But they'll probably need to move to a nursing home soon so I'll buy getting a different place, I can't live in that big house alone.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (oZ6kz)

117 AOSHQ Style question: Is "Golden Scalp Weasel" our affectionate term for Donald Trump?

See also "Yertle the Turtle" for Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (ujg0T)

118 Gunt Sucking Whores.

Posted by: eleven channeling Joe Biden at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (M0u+N)

119 The longer you wait to refresh, the less jumpy it will be. If you rack up 25-50 comments (maybe more - there is a lot of Twitter in this one), it will end up landing you right back where you left off because there is more below your position than above it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 03:36 PM (I2dne)

Are you asking me to exercise self control?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (KUaJL)

120 Hilary elf on the shelf would be truly terrifying.

Posted by: LizLem at December 23, 2019 03:48 PM (fGXo6)

121 Just want to thank all who replied to my concerns on the prior threads.

After reading your responses, I'm getting the picture that the incident that occurred last night is our govt doing what it does best: going all Bully Boy on a pretty harmless but obviously sick man.

It's the same old story. Local LE just kicks the can down the road. The guy who was SWATted should have gotten treatment long ago, but the police never had him committed. So they drew up a plan to rain down hell on him the next time they got a report of an incident, no matter how minor.

In so doing they inconvenienced and frightened an entire community. Meanwhile, warnings given about legit threats such as the Parkland shooter went unheeded. It doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling that our law enforcement apparatus is now operating in a topsy turvy back assward manner.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 03:48 PM (kD8Fh)

122 It certainly is miraculous, considering we can't even understand people from Scotland.
Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:45 PM (qEujL)
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I can, but it's in the blood.

I can even understand people from Northern Ireland.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 23, 2019 03:48 PM (8pIXS)

123 116 Grandparents - parents are dead.

They need a lot of help around the house - and also, it's a nice house in a convenient place for me work-wise and I don't need to pay rent. I'm very used to it and averse to change. But they'll probably need to move to a nursing home soon so I'll buy getting a different place, I can't live in that big house alone.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic


you're a good man.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 03:48 PM (d7Ww2)

124 118 Gunt Sucking Whores.
Posted by: eleven channeling Joe Biden at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (M0u+N)

They work hard for their money.
SO hard for their money.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 23, 2019 03:48 PM (ycWCI)

125 95 irrefutable magic of the GSW. ****

Golden Scalp Weasel.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (kD8Fh)

126 120
Hilary elf on the shelf would be truly terrifying.

Posted by: LizLem at December 23, 2019 03:48 PM (fGXo6)

You wake up and find it's suicided the cat, because it knew too much.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (1CjJc)

127 yeah, right the middle ages knight could've been from poland, germany or spain, france even.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (FEQY4)

128 Don't sweat it. I live with my Dad. It's right near where I work and better to give him the rent than some stranger.

Plus, he's just starting to have age related issues. Just yesterday, he left the stove on and turned a pot of chili into charcoal.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (xfb67)

129 The NYT admits that there is bias in the media.

New York Times Opinion@nytopinion
Most journalists really are doing their best to treat both parties fairly. But they often wrongly equate balance with the midpoint between the two parties' ideologies - which leads to a frequent bias against Sanders and Warren

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (+y/Ru)

130 I can even understand people from Northern Ireland.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 23, 2019 03:48 PM (8pIXS)

No way.

Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (qEujL)

131 118 Gunt Sucking Whores.
Posted by: eleven channeling Joe Biden at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (M0u+N)



That could actually describe Kamala Harris and her ilk well.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (ujg0T)

132 Are you asking me to exercise self control?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (KUaJL)
++++++++++++
By no means. It was a mere statement of fact, not advice.

I sure as hell don't wait...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (I2dne)

133
Multi-generational homes are nothing to be ashamed of, and as long as you're, you know *actually working* and could afford your own, it's admirable.

I'd like to live *near* my parents to help them. I don't know that I could roll with being in the same home, and I respect people who do that to help their folks.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (Adu0z)

134 It certainly is miraculous, considering we can't even understand people from Scotland.
Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:45 PM (qEujL)

Well ya know those people from Lower Uncton

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2019 03:50 PM (cEsBM)

135 Besides, she doesn't have a car or a driver's license, and I'm not jumping down her throat about that. I don't need to prove my "adultness" to somebody that has to leave for work 2 1/2 hours early because she's taking the fucking bus in Cleveland of all places.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:50 PM (oZ6kz)

136 128 Don't sweat it. I live with my Dad. It's right near where I work and better to give him the rent than some stranger.

Plus, he's just starting to have age related issues. Just yesterday, he left the stove on and turned a pot of chili into charcoal.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (xfb67)


That burned carrot smell!

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 03:50 PM (90T4r)

137 Having a tablet I see the issue of loading lots of bits but for me it sorts out in a few seconds.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2019 03:50 PM (ZCEU2)

138 120 Hilary elf on the shelf would be truly terrifying.
Posted by: LizLem


I want to collect the whole set

Posted by: x at December 23, 2019 03:50 PM (nFwvY)

139 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 23, 2019 03:50 PM (arJlL)

140 New York Times Opinion@nytopinion
Most journalists really are doing their best to treat both parties fairly. But they often wrongly equate balance with the midpoint between the two parties' ideologies - which leads to a frequent bias against Sanders and Warren
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (+y/Ru)
+++++++++++++++
BAIL! BAIL! BAIL FASTER! THE SHIP IS SINKING! BAIL FASTER!

They only ever talk about their potential biases during Dem primaries. That alone is all you need to know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 03:51 PM (I2dne)

141 132 Are you asking me to exercise self control?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (KUaJL)
++++++++++++
By no means. It was a mere statement of fact, not advice.

I sure as hell don't wait...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (I2dne)

Some of us hit " refresh" like crack addled Bonobos.

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 03:51 PM (90T4r)

142 NGU: Is that a Married with Children reference?

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:51 PM (oZ6kz)

143 She's a black girl and a friend of mine told me this isn't uncommon in that community - guys who dont live on their own are seen as scrubs/busters/etc."

It's not just the black community thinks that. I know it's gotten common for the millienial generation to do this, and I know starting housing is tougher than ever these days. But I also know that I moved out of my parents house 2 months after I turned 18, and except for one short summer when I was 21 and school had ended, I only went back for visits. Once I was on my own, then I was on my own, and there wasn't any question of it being any other way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2019 03:51 PM (trdmm)

144 A friend at work lives with her parents. She lived with a BF during college, but moved back home after breaking up with him. I suggested that she set aside the money she would have paid in rent and invest it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 23, 2019 03:51 PM (wCmLp)

145 I moved in with my mom when I couldn't afford rent in the city anymore. After she passed away, I was so glad I got to spend those years with her .

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 03:52 PM (kD8Fh)

146 LOL,
I really like Rand Paul. Just as he disagrees on occasion with Trump and voices it, I can voice my disapproval of Rand's opinions on things. But what I most like about him is he is honest, direct, and doesn't PANDER.

The Neocon Apprentice line is hilarious and I bet Trump will hear this at some point, and have to chuckle. Along with Don Jr. and Ivanka, who were his associate judges on the show.

Just like The Apprentice, you don't know for certain what people will do until they are in a position to make choices under pressure. And then the phoniness comes out.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 23, 2019 03:52 PM (ogBMo)

147 >>> yeah, I think woke SJW Marvel and other terrible entertainment corporate shills have this problem with sexy bitches.

I expressed my disbelief in the last thread that they had the beautiful Keri Russell helmeted the entire frikkin film. Your theory explains this perfectly.

Also fits with why the crone-ish lady got an on screen smooch with her lady love. No hot lesbians!

Posted by: LizLem at December 23, 2019 03:52 PM (fGXo6)

148 127 yeah, right the middle ages knight could've been from poland, germany or spain, france even.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:49 PM (FEQY4)

I was referring to middle English. Almost impossible to understand. Even Chaucer.

Posted by: Caliban at December 23, 2019 03:53 PM (qEujL)

149 Neither Misfud nor Mifsud Killed Himself.

Posted by: ShainS -- Mifsud Didn't Kill Himself at December 23, 2019 03:53 PM (q4ZCT)

150 For the first time in my life, I am jealous of Kentucky.

Posted by: pookysgirl with ten daughters of leaping at December 23, 2019 03:53 PM (XKZwp)

151 neocon apprentice was a good line. Just think of what Trump has to do from a personnel standpoint. Most of DC and the GOP hates their voters. So, the right ...such as it is...gave him a bunch of swamp wankers for his first 2 years.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:53 PM (FEQY4)

152 But yeah, there was a time in my life when I was a bum. A NEET not pulling my own weight, for almost a year after I graduated college. But now I have a steady 9-5 job that I've had for 3 1/2 years and I could afford my own place, it just hasn't made sense to move since it would basically force my grandparents to either move to assissted living or hire a full time caretaker.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:53 PM (oZ6kz)

153 "spurgily"?


*thumbs through AoSHQ dictionary*

'...to spurge mightily.'
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 23, 2019 03:39 PM


"In a manner characterized by the presence of spurge."

I thought this was a known thing.

Posted by: Zombie Rudyard Kipling at December 23, 2019 03:54 PM (ejd/p)

154 Off, dead poet sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 23, 2019 03:54 PM (ejd/p)

155 If you can work anywhere, and most backend positions in companies such as IT, admin and accounting can be done in the cloud literally anywhere, working from home, or a home owned by the family, either elder parents or grand parents, makes since if you are still single. Only problem, hard on dating, especially as you get older.

My wife lived with her mother until we got married, but she was Italian, and that was the tradition...otherwise TRAMP!

Posted by: Boswell at December 23, 2019 03:54 PM (32YRo)

156 Once I was on my own, then I was on my own, and there wasn't any question of it being any other way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2019 03:51 PM (trdmm)

Same here. And it was no question what to do once a family medical issue arose.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 23, 2019 03:54 PM (1CjJc)

157 I know it's gotten common for the millienial generation to do this, and I know starting housing is tougher than ever these days. But I also know that I moved out of my parents house 2 months after I turned 18, and except for one short summer when I was 21 and school had ended, I only went back for visits. Once I was on my own, then I was on my own, and there wasn't any question of it being any other way.

One problem, IMHO, is that as jobs consolidate in cities, you have more young folks competing for limited housing. This is exacerbated by the growth in "luxury" apartment complexes that cater to twenty-somethings who can rely on mom and dad to help with the rent.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 23, 2019 03:54 PM (wCmLp)

158 Also fits with why the crone-ish lady got an on screen smooch with her lady love. No hot lesbians!
Posted by: LizLem at December 23, 2019 03:52 PM (fGXo6)



It makes you long for the days of "The L Word", where the dykes, while full of leftist political crap, at least looked mostly hawt.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 03:54 PM (ujg0T)

159 147 >>> yeah, I think woke SJW Marvel and other terrible entertainment corporate shills have this problem with sexy bitches.

I expressed my disbelief in the last thread that they had the beautiful Keri Russell helmeted the entire frikkin film. Your theory explains this perfectly.

Also fits with why the crone-ish lady got an on screen smooch with her lady love. No hot lesbians!

===

runs to go check last thread...what film with Keri? what uigly leszzbo kiss?

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:56 PM (FEQY4)

160 Yeah, the biggest issue with living with your folks is dating, and for years that wasn't an issue because I didn't date. Now that I'm back out there, I realize it's going to hamper me.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:56 PM (oZ6kz)

161 Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 03:48 PM (kD8Fh)

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I don't know the specific incident you're talking about. But we had something in my hometown recently that was similar.

Dude was a lunatic, he refused to pay his taxes, which is cool by me, but he was also completely crazy. When our braindead local Sheriffs came to evict him, they did their typical thing of being a bunch of dolts who thought dressing up in SWAT gear made them to Universal Soldiers, and entered the place with no tactical plan at all. They do this kind of thing ALL the time, for anything.

They did the same thing with a guy I knew who was frowing *four* measly marijuana plants.

They sent a 400lb sub-90 IQ blob of a man (I grew up with him) in on point. He ended up as a bullet-sponge. Dead as disco.

The second deputy lived but literally got his dick shot off.

Another was critically wounded, but survived.

Idiots.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at December 23, 2019 03:56 PM (Adu0z)

162 So then I said to Milton Berle: 'You used to wear gowns and now you wear diapers.' Classic.

Posted by: Ru Paul at December 23, 2019 03:57 PM (msPO3)

163 I'm at the point of arguing with my parents that I should move back in with them because, well, Mommy's mind is going and Dad's slipping too (a man who raised approaching if not over nine figures for religious entities over the years is falling for YOU HAVE WON $200,000 just send us a check for $49.95 mailers and it's destroying me) and I would like to do the moving in thing on my own timeline, thank you very much.

They're resisting it and it's not like I want to do it, I love being on my own, I have been for 29 years (at least) but it's why I'm here.

Frankly, if it comes down to it, it would be cheaper to pay me to care for them as live in caretaker than to send them to a care facility.

Stupid life being stupid complicated.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 03:57 PM (mf5HN)

164 I didn't mean to sound critical - it's a great service to live with an elderly couple who can use the help.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2019 03:58 PM (trdmm)

165 I still live with my Dad, but I bought a house and rent it.

Trust me, the ladies love a slumlord.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 03:58 PM (xfb67)

166 162 So then I said to Milton Berle: 'You used to wear gowns and now you wear diapers.' Classic.
Posted by: Ru Paul at

===

I saw that show. Berle was hurt. He should've walked off stage.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 03:58 PM (FEQY4)

167 OMG! "Neocon Apprentice wasn't well thought out".

Posted by: Bandersnatch loves Rand Paul at December 23, 2019 03:59 PM (gd9RK)

168 Can Rand Paul win a Presidential election? I just wonder if his brand of conservatism can win.

I really like Rand about 85% of the time.

I do think he's libertarianism though can make him another Chamber of Commerce GOP type on border security.

Posted by: Blago at December 23, 2019 03:59 PM (sjTfF)

169 I guess my issue is that, if she had just said "yeah that's a dealbreaker, I think we should cancel date #2," I can live with that. But instead I get "I still want to go out with you, but a guy who lived with his folks abused me in the past so you need to prove tome you're not him and also that you're an independent adult." That's not a way to start a relationship.

But I'm equally dumb because I should have just told her to go screw. But as Seinfeld said, "she is a woman."

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:00 PM (oZ6kz)

170 Stupid life being stupid complicated.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 03:57 PM (mf5HN)

I listened to the horde for advice. Everyone said that you don't regret spending time with them that you will never get again.
Trust me, the ladies love a slumlord.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 03:58 PM (xfb67)

I could see that. Knew an Aussie who always had them working at the rental, too.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 23, 2019 04:00 PM (1CjJc)

171 I moved out of my parents' house before my 18th birthday and never lived with them again.

Mom died when I was 24, dad 10 years ago.

I'm kind of jealous of my friends, even though they struggle with aging parents. Mine never got old, not really.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 04:01 PM (d7Ww2)

172 Alex, my oldest sister moved in with my parents as a caretaker when my mom was slipping into dementia. My dad never would have been able to handle it otherwise. One thing she did was make sure that my mom retained her pride--I'm just here to help out, otherwise things will be the same as ever.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 23, 2019 04:01 PM (RD7QR)

173 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at December 23, 2019 03:56 PM (Adu0z)

I'm thinking the local yokels were afraid of a similar outcome to what your locals experienced. That's why they called in reinforcements.


The guy they went after did have a history of being belligerent when he was off his meds. Otherwise he went to work every day and was competent enough at least to keep his home after his dad died. I don't know what precipitated the incident where they went and got him.

My BF will find out from his neighbors. He did say he thought he heard gunshots after I spoke to him last. So maybe the paper reported it correctly when they said the dude shot at the cops.

But if he really had shot at the cops, would they have taken him alive? I don't think so.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 04:01 PM (kD8Fh)

174 This is exacerbated by the growth in "luxury" apartment complexes that cater to twenty-somethings who can rely on mom and dad to help with the rent.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 23, 2019 03:54 PM (wCmLp)

I realize that - the market has been skewed to the higher end in many places. I realize that in my early years, before I was married, I was able to live in several places (with roommates) where my total contribution to rent + bills was $100 month. Some of them were pretty sketchy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2019 04:02 PM (trdmm)

175 I'm at the point of arguing with my parents that I should move back in with them because, well, Mommy's mind is going and Dad's slipping too (a man who raised approaching if not over nine figures for religious entities over the years is falling for YOU HAVE WON $200,000 just send us a check for $49.95 mailers and it's destroying me) and I would like to do the moving in thing on my own timeline, thank you very much.

They're resisting it and it's not like I want to do it, I love being on my own, I have been for 29 years (at least) but it's why I'm here.

Frankly, if it comes down to it, it would be cheaper to pay me to care for them as live in caretaker than to send them to a care facility.

Stupid life being stupid complicated.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 03:57 PM (mf5HN)


Prayers for your parents.

Grandma had dementia and was starting to have trouble when about a year ago she suffered a series of strokes and ended up in hospice. She survived, and grandpa and my aunt moved her back home (they lived down the street from my aunt and uncle) and brought in some nurses to help grandpa care for her. It caused a huge rift in the family (mom was initially opposed) but turned out to be the right thing, IMHO. Grandma spent her final months in somewhere familiar, and I think it was good for grandpa as well, even if it was stressful.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 23, 2019 04:02 PM (wCmLp)

176 My grandpa's mind is going really badly. It's really painful to see - but I've tried to help by putting some checklists on his whiteboard and trying to have grammy make him check things off when I'm at work. Otherwise he has no idea if he's taken his pills, had lunch, fed his fish, etc.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:02 PM (oZ6kz)

177 I do think he's libertarianism though can make him another Chamber of Commerce GOP type on border security.
Posted by: Blago at December 23, 2019 03:59 PM (sjTfF)
++++++++++++
And on trade. He opposes tariffs because he's a free trader.

That's fine, I am, too - IF and only if it is reciprocal. Tariffs for pure protectionism are stupid and cause dislocations and massive inefficiency. Tariffs wielded as a policy tool against bad-faith trade partners or to offset the unfair advantage posed by trading partners that have no property rights and slave labor are a different story.

Not all tariffs are created equal. I don't know Paul's opinion on the "policy tool to achieve a set objective" approach to tariffs. Based on what I do know, he is a free-trade purist and doesn't care about asymmetry. That is my key disagreement with him.

But I'd still vote for him several dozen times before voting for Romney, for example. I think Paul is wrong on free-trade fundamentalism but I also think Paul is basically honest. Honest goes a long way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 04:03 PM (I2dne)

178 Someone told me this looks cool, woke even...

Posted by: Whoopie G's dirty mop hair do...WTF? at December 23, 2019 04:03 PM (DCusI)

179 I realize that - the market has been skewed to the higher end in many places

A good chunk of the young marrieds in the McMansion developments around here couldn't live there without depending on the Bank of Mom and Dad.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 04:04 PM (kD8Fh)

180 Yeah I lost both my parents by 15 so in some ways I feel lucky that my grandparents have lasted so long - they're 88 and 86. Not that that's ancient or anything, but my dad's parents both died in their 70's.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:05 PM (oZ6kz)

181 They're resisting it and it's not like I want to do it, I love being on my own, I have been for 29 years (at least) but it's why I'm here.

Frankly, if it comes down to it, it would be cheaper to pay me to care for them as live in caretaker than to send them to a care facility.

Stupid life being stupid complicated.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 03:57 PM (mf5HN)

Sounds like their issues are mental, rather than physical, yes? I will say that my uncle kept my aunt at home with him through her ten years of Alzheimers. I fairly short order he had paid caregivers come in to be with her while he worked. He kept her himself at night, until she wandered off in the winter one night, somehow, and got frostbit.
It's a tough thing you are contemplating, alex, and made doubly tough, because there are two of them. I would be happy to share other thoughts about this and my other experiences in the matter.

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 04:05 PM (90T4r)

182 The original "Gaslight" is on TCM right now.
The 1944 version of Ingrid Bergman is all right with me.


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 23, 2019 04:05 PM (ufFY8)

183 179 I realize that - the market has been skewed to the higher end in many places

A good chunk of the young marrieds in the McMansion developments around here couldn't live there without depending on the Bank of Mom and Dad.
Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2019 04:04 PM (kD8Fh)



Heck, a good many "starter homes", nowhere near McMansions, have this extra kind of filial financing, usually paying the parents back on lenient terms or getting it as a multi year Xmas gift.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 04:07 PM (ujg0T)

184 My grandparents got divorced a few months before my grandmother was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. Then they lived together until she passed.

Life is crazy sometimes.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 04:08 PM (xfb67)

185 The 1944 version of Ingrid Bergman is all right with me.


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 23, 2019 04:05 PM (ufFY
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Her daughter is pretty hot, too.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 23, 2019 04:08 PM (8pIXS)

186 My grandma had polio as a teen and eventually had a double mastectomy due to breast cancer. She keeps saying she thinks she's going to die basically every year but I feel like she's invincible in some ways.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:08 PM (oZ6kz)

187 I'm kind of jealous of my friends, even though they struggle with aging parents. Mine never got old, not really.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 23, 2019 04:01 PM (d7Ww2)

Everything is a blessing. Everything is a curse.

You take what the Good Lord gives ya, I suppose.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 23, 2019 04:08 PM (Ct55T)

188 I empathize with all of you with ageing parents. After the experience us kids had I urge (implore) you to get power of attorney. When Mom passed Dad got hooked on state sanctioned gambling - Keno specifically. Pissed away so much money we had to sell Mom's jewelry to cover his debts. He worked hard his whole life yet died in insolvency. Push, be tough but know it's for the best.

Posted by: Cautionary Tale at December 23, 2019 04:09 PM (msPO3)

189 182 The original "Gaslight" is on TCM right now.
The 1944 version of Ingrid Bergman is all right with me.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 23, 2019 04:05 PM (ufFY

'Paula...'*

*Eurotrash accent

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 23, 2019 04:09 PM (ycWCI)

190 Rand Paul is OK. He's a whiny isolationist like his old man and believes freedom exists simply for the asking. Sure, I agree that foreign aid, for the most part, is simply pissed away by the State Department, and that IF we engage in such, it should be better targeted for maximum effect. And while we shouldn't resort to military options willy-nilly, we by all means should be judicious in how such are used, avoiding whenever possible, but all the same understanding that it might have to be used.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 23, 2019 04:09 PM (vc9hX)

191 Sounds like their issues are mental, rather than physical, yes? I will say that my uncle kept my aunt at home with him through her ten years of Alzheimers. I fairly short order he had paid caregivers come in to be with her while he worked. He kept her himself at night, until she wandered off in the winter one night, somehow, and got frostbit.
It's a tough thing you are contemplating, alex, and made doubly tough, because there are two of them. I would be happy to share other thoughts about this and my other experiences in the matter.
Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 04:05 PM (90T4r)


Thank you for your kind offer, I greatly appreciate it.

Dad has Parkinson's and is bipolar and Mom's got macular degeneration fairly badly in one eye so it's physical as well. Though God bless modern medicine. Dad's had Parkinson's for over a decade and he is still walking and driving (though in town only) and he can play 3 par golf.

I'm very lucky to still have them. I know this.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 04:09 PM (mf5HN)

192 Her daughter is pretty hot, too.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 23, 2019 04:08 PM (8pIXS)

Just a bit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 23, 2019 04:09 PM (ycWCI)

193 Heck, a good many "starter homes", nowhere near McMansions, have this extra kind of filial financing, usually paying the parents back on lenient terms or getting it as a multi year Xmas gift.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 04:07 PM (ujg0T)
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It can be damn near impossible, depending on the market. If you take the "old math" (that is, the safe math), you need to have 20% down and keep it to within 3x gross income.

The median "home price" (which includes condos) in the Denver area is $450k according to Zillow. So by the "old math," you'd need $90k in cash and a gross annual income of $150k to afford the "median home."

That is a damn sight more than median income or median savings.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 04:10 PM (I2dne)

194
Rand Paul takes a dim view of Rudy! Who knows, Rudy might come through?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 23, 2019 04:10 PM (2cHP9)

195 Radio sez Nancy and the dims are going to add more charges to the Articles before she presents them to Mitch.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:10 PM (nhBb/)

196 Radio sez Nancy and the dims are going to add more charges to the Articles before she presents them to Mitch.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:10 PM (nhBb/)
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Sure. Why not?

They're just making shit up and winging it, anyway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 04:12 PM (I2dne)

197 195 Radio sez Nancy and the dims are going to add more charges to the Articles before she presents them to Mitch.

_______________________________

They've got him dead to rights on pall casting and cocktail party pooping in the 1st degree.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 04:12 PM (xfb67)

198 Idiots.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at December 23, 2019 03:56 PM (Adu0z)

We can bicker and argue about the "monopoly on the use of force"... But if you're going to seize that monopoly and wield it, you damn well better know what you're doing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 23, 2019 04:12 PM (Ct55T)

199 Besides if I wasn't a super responsible adult would I have just spent a good chunk of my Jeopardy winnings on a Twilight Zone pinball machine and a Galaga cocktail machine? Do those sounds like things an overgrown manchild would do? Of course not! Those are the sober, rational decisions of a seasoned adult.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:12 PM (oZ6kz)

200 Besides if I wasn't a super responsible adult would I have just spent a good chunk of my Jeopardy winnings on a Twilight Zone pinball machine and a Galaga cocktail machine? Do those sounds like things an overgrown manchild would do? Of course not! Those are the sober, rational decisions of a seasoned adult.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:12 PM (oZ6kz)
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Twilight Zone pinball sounds like a cool machine.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 04:13 PM (I2dne)

201
SPONGE!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2019 04:13 PM (8XRCm)

202 Radio sez Nancy and the dims are going to add more charges to the Articles before she presents them to Mitch.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:10 PM (nhBb/)
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How could they do that? That would make them no longer the articles the House voted on.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 23, 2019 04:13 PM (8pIXS)

203 alex, whatever you decide, PLEASE be sure and put in place avenues for Respite, for yourself. Even a good heart such as yours Has to have a break, and the toll on caregivers is brutal. I have witnessed it, up close.

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 04:13 PM (90T4r)

204 How could they do that? That would make them no longer the articles the House voted on.

Posted by: Captain Obvious

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They would be deemed voted on, silly.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 23, 2019 04:14 PM (YslsA)

205 Rand Paul takes a dim view of Rudy! Who knows, Rudy might come through?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

_____________

Honestly, that exchange with Ron Paul and Rudy, Rudy looks far more sane.

So Ron Paul is blaming the US for pissing off Iraq...and that's why 9/11 happened?

Posted by: Blago at December 23, 2019 04:14 PM (sjTfF)

206 They would be deemed voted on, silly.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 23, 2019 04:14 PM (YslsA)
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Foolish me.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 23, 2019 04:14 PM (8pIXS)

207 199 Besides if I wasn't a super responsible adult would I have just spent a good chunk of my Jeopardy winnings on a Twilight Zone pinball machine and a Galaga cocktail machine? Do those sounds like things an overgrown manchild would do? Of course not! Those are the sober, rational decisions of a seasoned adult.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:12 PM (oZ6kz)

I believe our Inner Children are our future.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 23, 2019 04:14 PM (Ct55T)

208
A good chunk of the young marrieds in the McMansion developments around here couldn't live there without depending on the Bank of Mom and Dad.

--

It's baked into the cake now.

I've mentioned it before, but we've started looking at how to pay for college. If we hadn't saved a single thing, over-extended on a million dollar home, leased BMW 7 series, and didn't have a penny to our name our kids would get better college funding options.

As it is we'll be expected to pitch in ~$10K a year or so because we planned and saved.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rosemary Collyer didn't kill herself at December 23, 2019 04:15 PM (Kjtec)

209 199 Besides if I wasn't a super responsible adult would I have just spent a good chunk of my Jeopardy winnings on a Twilight Zone pinball machine and a Galaga cocktail machine? Do those sounds like things an overgrown manchild would do? Of course not! Those are the sober, rational decisions of a seasoned adult.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:12 PM (oZ6kz)

Wait--such things exist? [checks bank account]

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 23, 2019 04:15 PM (RD7QR)

210 Everything is a blessing. Everything is a curse.

You take what the Good Lord gives ya, I suppose.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 23, 2019 04:08 PM (Ct55T)

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If more people on this planet realized this.... it would be a much happier place.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2019 04:15 PM (8XRCm)

211 Our middle East policy should be: Bomb both sides, just to be fair.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 23, 2019 04:15 PM (vPKfA)

212 Everything is a blessing. Everything is a curse.

--

Stolen.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rosemary Collyer didn't kill herself at December 23, 2019 04:16 PM (Kjtec)

213 Oh it's a fantastic machine. And I learned to solder too - I was panicking because a key mechanism wasn't working but I noticed a wire had snapped under the playfield so I was able to do that repair myself.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:16 PM (oZ6kz)

214 As it is we'll be expected to pitch in ~$10K a year or so because we planned and saved.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rosemary Collyer didn't kill herself at December 23, 2019 04:15 PM (Kjtec)
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It has always been so, at least since the 60s.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 23, 2019 04:16 PM (8pIXS)

215 And on trade. (Rand Paul) opposes tariffs because he's a free trader.


As cantankerous as Pat Buchanan often is, I am reminded of his arguments in "The Great Betrayal": that a government funded by tariffs was a lot more libertarian than one funded by income taxes.

And back then, the "big government" types wanted lower revenue maximizing tariffs, the revenues often going to the 19th century versions of public works (National Road, Transcontinental Railroads)or to the military (Great White Fleet).

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 04:16 PM (ujg0T)

216 211 Our middle East policy should be: Bomb both sides, just to be fair.
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 23, 2019 04:15 PM (vPKfA)

Then bomb a random country in another region just to keep them on their toes

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 23, 2019 04:17 PM (Ct55T)

217 Always enjoy Rand Paul's opinions. Of course, I don't always agree, but he is reasonable and thank goodness, he has a sense of humor.

Same with Louis Gohmert and Ted Cruz.

I always carefully listen to their opinions whether I agree or not.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 23, 2019 04:17 PM (MIKMs)

218 Contestant for the Worst Christmas Song Evah!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwZDLUbyG7M


Alternate Title-

"Joe Biden's Christmas Wish"

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2019 04:17 PM (9X624)

219 Wait--such things exist? [checks bank account]
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 23, 2019 04:15 PM (RD7QR)

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Yes.

I put the Galaga machine on my Christmas list.

Not holding my breath tho... I might have to move it to my "explain it to Mrs Fixer" list tho.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2019 04:17 PM (8XRCm)

220
I think the Dems should vote on a new article of impeachment every day.

Please do this. Its what the people want. Anything he does that day, impeach.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2019 04:17 PM (r+sAi)

221 Sorta related to the house discussion - not having a job sucks ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2019 04:17 PM (NWiLs)

222 Broseidon - Would a boarder work for you or more work than its worth?

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2019 04:17 PM (ZCEU2)

223 TUBAL, YOU TAKE THAT BACK ABOUT ME BEING NOT AWFUL!

And I know. We have a couple of clients who nearly worked themselves into an early grave dealing with elderly parents so I've seen how bad it can get.


My grandparents got divorced a few months before my grandmother was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. Then they lived together until she passed.

Life is crazy sometimes.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 04:08 PM (xfb67)



There are some excellent manipulating the system reasons for getting divorced when elderly.

Not that *koff*I would ever work at a place that has done such things for clients *koff*

Hey, if the government wants stupid rules for its stupid games, I'm going to exploit them for all I'm worth.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 04:18 PM (mf5HN)

224 210 Everything is a blessing. Everything is a curse.

You take what the Good Lord gives ya, I suppose.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 23, 2019 04:08 PM (Ct55T)

----

If more people on this planet realized this.... it would be a much happier place.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2019 04:15 PM (8XRCm)

If he gave out better shit, and was less fucking capricious, it would be a happier place.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2019 04:18 PM (NWiLs)

225 Joncelli, the cocktail machine is this pretty common "Icade" board that has 60 games on it (mostly Namco but some others - has Ms Pac Man, Galaga, Rally-X, Dig Dug, etc.) - someone just put it in a standard cocktail table shell and was selling it for $800, which isn't a bad price at all.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:19 PM (oZ6kz)

226 Radio sez Nancy and the dims are going to add more charges to the Articles before she presents them to Mitch.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:10 PM (nhBb/)

Everything is possible in the land of make believe

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 23, 2019 04:20 PM (REzVc)

227 Alex
I agree with Tubal about respite care for yourself if you undertake caring for your parents.
I didn't when I was caring for my folks when dad had cancer and three years after getting my mom on a somewhat even keel.
I didn't live with them but was there every day.
It's exhausting. No hospice back then either.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at December 23, 2019 04:20 PM (Tt761)

228 225 Joncelli, the cocktail machine is this pretty common "Icade" board that has 60 games on it (mostly Namco but some others - has Ms Pac Man, Galaga, Rally-X, Dig Dug, etc.) - someone just put it in a standard cocktail table shell and was selling it for $800, which isn't a bad price at all.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:19 PM (oZ6kz)

That would be awesome to have.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2019 04:21 PM (NWiLs)

229 No work 'til Friday, and I just shotgunned a Lager after getting home from work....

Went straight to my head.

Guess it's time to go hit up Happy Hour at my local.

Adios, y'all, and enjoy your Christmases and Hannukahs and Eids and Kwanzaas and Richard Dawkins' Birthday (observed) Days and whatever the hell else you celebrate.

Cheers!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 23, 2019 04:21 PM (Ct55T)

230 223 TUBAL, YOU TAKE THAT BACK ABOUT ME BEING NOT AWFUL!

And I know. We have a couple of clients who nearly worked themselves into an early grave dealing with elderly parents so I've seen how bad it can get.



Instead of a Dark Lord, you would have an Alex, not dark but beautiful and terrible as the dawn! Tempestuous as the sea, and stronger than the foundations of the earth! All shall love her and despair!"

I can go with this, alex.

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 04:21 PM (90T4r)

231 Any Senate trial that doesn't include Joe and Hunter Biden testifying is a will be a farce.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 04:22 PM (xfb67)

232 'Paula...'*

*Eurotrash accent

Posted by: Aetius451AD

Has an extremely young Angela Landsbury as the maid - her first film, perhaps?

Posted by: Boswell at December 23, 2019 04:22 PM (32YRo)

233 And they got Chucky's email bonanza to add, maybe they should wait for more evidence and vote again in May.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2019 04:22 PM (ZCEU2)

234 Broseidon, thanks for sharing your situation with us. Honestly it sounds like the setup to a Hallmark movie. The right girl will be understanding.

I am still dating the navy submariner guy with kids. Like him a ton, and his kids. But he is moving glacially slow in the affection side. We have not even kissed yet. He had the perfect opportunity last night. We were snuggling on the couch, kids asleep, playing audio book of wheel of time series. I looked up at him with big eyes, hoping he would lean down and kiss me, and he never did. Bah!

I bought mistletoe in a box as part of his Christmas present so he gets the hint. And he is socially obligated to kiss me at New Years, right?

Posted by: LizLem at December 23, 2019 04:23 PM (fGXo6)

235 225 Joncelli, the cocktail machine is this pretty common "Icade" board that has 60 games on it (mostly Namco but some others - has Ms Pac Man, Galaga, Rally-X, Dig Dug, etc.) - someone just put it in a standard cocktail table shell and was selling it for $800, which isn't a bad price at all.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:19 PM (oZ6kz)


They are fairly easy to build yourself and those games run just fine from a Raspberry PI.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 23, 2019 04:24 PM (kUmUV)

236 231. Hate to break it to ya...

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at December 23, 2019 04:24 PM (JRaU+)

237 I'm just gonna leave this pic of FLOTUS here:

https://tinyurl.com/sc5zhsa


Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 04:24 PM (mf5HN)

238 234

I bought mistletoe in a box as part of his Christmas present so he gets the hint. And he is socially obligated to kiss me at New Years, right?
Posted by: LizLem at December 23, 2019 04:23 PM (fGXo6)

LizLem, you are in the Right Place for relationship advice. AoS is sure fire in matters of the heart!!

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 04:25 PM (90T4r)

239
So Ron Paul is blaming the US for pissing off Iraq...and that's why 9/11 happened?

Posted by: Blago

=========

Or Ron Paul believes Rudy shouldn't be asking whether Brillo-Pad Yovanovitch blocked Ukraine's investigation of Burisma and lied to Congress about it?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 23, 2019 04:25 PM (2cHP9)

240 Submariner guys are weird. I know this because I was one.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 04:26 PM (xfb67)

241 wow, the impeachment vote was historic, but now they're going to Cats it and add more visual content for the rerelease to make peach mints super historic!

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 04:26 PM (FEQY4)

242 Thank you, tubal, that is much better.

And LizLem, you are an 'ette of good standing.

GRAB THE BOY AND PLANT ONE ON HIM! We are 'ettes! We are proactive go getters!


Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 04:26 PM (mf5HN)

243 Pat Buchanan and Rand Paul

1. establish good foundation for point
2. develop point
3. on a roll
4. off the rails/to the moon

They can't help themselves.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:26 PM (nhBb/)

244 Rand Paul is funnier than most of the stand up comedians on SNL

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 23, 2019 04:27 PM (G546f)

245 LizLem - He sounds kinda clueless about those sort of hints like I am. The other two girls I was dating sort of, yknow, forced the issue themselves, but they weren't as classy as our Ettes.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:27 PM (oZ6kz)

246 Make that Ron Paul

Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:27 PM (nhBb/)

247 I am still dating the navy submariner guy with kids. Like him a ton, and his kids. But he is moving glacially slow in the affection side. We have not even kissed yet. He had the perfect opportunity last night. We were snuggling on the couch, kids asleep, playing audio book of wheel of time series. I looked up at him with big eyes, hoping he would lean down and kiss me, and he never did. Bah!

I bought mistletoe in a box as part of his Christmas present so he gets the hint. And he is socially obligated to kiss me at New Years, right?
Posted by: LizLem at December 23, 2019 04:23 PM (fGXo6)

Attach the mistletoe to a belt.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2019 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

248 237 I'm just gonna leave this pic of FLOTUS here:

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wow, not stunning, brave or courageous. Definitely not Marvel MCU heroine material. Where's the Karen haircut? I bet she has breasts!

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 04:27 PM (FEQY4)

249 Submariner guys are weird.
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Truth.

And a submariner/cryppie relationship would be exponentially weirder.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 23, 2019 04:27 PM (Dc2NZ)

250 >>Instead of a Dark Lord, you would have an Alex, not dark but beautiful and terrible as the dawn! Tempestuous as the sea, and stronger than the foundations of the earth! All shall love her and despair!"


She does have a nice pair.

Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2019 04:28 PM (AUnSf)

251 I'm just gonna leave this pic of FLOTUS here:

https://tinyurl.com/sc5zhsa

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 23, 2019 04:24 PM (mf5HN)
++++++++++++++
Even in a weird tarmac shot from an odd angle, she looks good.

Yet I still see Michelle on magazine covers.

I hate the press.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 04:28 PM (I2dne)

252
Radio sez Nancy and the dims are going to add more charges to the Articles before she presents them to Mitch.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:10 PM (nhBb/)

======

Wait, wut? Is the House going to vote on them again, or is tacking on additional charges after the vote some new privilege of the Speaker that we've never heard of?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 23, 2019 04:28 PM (2cHP9)

253 LizLem, if you're not banging on the second date, deal breaker!

The guy is a submariner fachrissakes.

Posted by: Regular joe at December 23, 2019 04:28 PM (6/uwW)

254 Moon - True, you could do something similar with a raspberry Pi and put a lot more games on it. But I like the simplicity of this sort of set-up.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:28 PM (oZ6kz)

255 Attach the mistletoe to a belt.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2019 04:27 PM (NWiLs)
+++++++++++++++
Works best when used in combination with stilts.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 04:29 PM (I2dne)

256 eyes, hoping he would lean down and kiss me, and he never did. Bah!

I bought mistletoe in a box as part of his Christmas present so he gets the hint. And he is socially obligated to kiss me at New Years, right?
Posted by: LizLe

========

the sub guys I know (he an officer or enlisted) are usually super smart guys which can go in the direct of nerdy, shy or hannibal lecter. He's divorced so he probably has known the touch of a woman. Weird.

Either way, be more aggro...

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 04:29 PM (FEQY4)

257 Y'all with the aging parents, I salute all of you. Having done my own time in that department I know all too well what you're signing up for. It's the most tragic honor you'll ever have. It's a joy you'll never forget and a sadness you'll never regret.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Democrats, Media, and Deep State: Hostis Humani Generis
at December 23, 2019 04:30 PM (Rvlwi)

258 I should tell you about the time I accidentally mailed all the cryppies mission material back to the US.

Boy were they surprised when they showed up right before we were getting underway.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 04:31 PM (xfb67)

259 Moon - True, you could do something similar with a raspberry Pi and put a lot more games on it. But I like the simplicity of this sort of set-up.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:28 PM (oZ6kz)
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You get it.

I work in IT. I used to be an enthusiast, a hobbyist, etc.
For my entertainment, I built some little home-theater PCs for the TVs. I got home from work one night and it wasn't working properly.

I realized, in the midst of troubleshooting (yes, I fixed it), that I wasn't an enthusiast anymore. There was no joy. I just wanted to watch some damn TV.

I rebuilt the whole system and moved over to Rokus for everything I do TV-wise. There is some computer infrastructure sitting behind it, but it is almost entirely hands-off and just runs. I check in on it once in a while to make sure the wheels aren't flying off.

There is a lot to be said for "turn it on and it behaves the way you think it should" simplicity.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 04:31 PM (I2dne)

260 When starting a new relationship, get invited to new person's house, and check out basement, attic, and crawlspace.

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 04:31 PM (90T4r)

261 Hilary elf on the shelf would be truly terrifying.
Posted by: LizLem at December 23, 2019

++++

At least you'd know who to blame when the box wine starts disappearing.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 23, 2019 04:32 PM (T09ml)

262 235 225 Joncelli, the cocktail machine is this pretty common "Icade" board that has 60 games on it (mostly Namco but some others - has Ms Pac Man, Galaga, Rally-X, Dig Dug, etc.) - someone just put it in a standard cocktail table shell and was selling it for $800, which isn't a bad price at all.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:19 PM (oZ6kz)

They are fairly easy to build yourself and those games run just fine from a Raspberry PI.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 23, 2019 04:24 PM (kUmUV)

Yeah, but you can't put your drink on a Raspberry pi board.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 23, 2019 04:32 PM (RD7QR)

263 247 I am still dating the navy submariner guy with kids. Like him a ton, and his kids. But he is moving glacially slow in the affection side. We have not even kissed yet. He had the perfect opportunity last night. We were snuggling on the couch, kids asleep, playing audio book of wheel of time series. I looked up at him with big eyes, hoping he would lean down and kiss me, and he never did. Bah!

I bought mistletoe in a box as part of his Christmas present so he gets the hint. And he is socially obligated to kiss me at New Years, right?
Posted by: LizLem at December 23, 2019 04:23 PM (fGXo6)

Is he a big Wheel of Time fan? Because there are a lot of series segways that could lead from WoT to kissing.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 23, 2019 04:32 PM (nNEcr)

264 260 When starting a new relationship, get invited to new person's house, and check out basement, attic, and crawlspace.
Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 04:31 PM (90T4r)

If you see any death's head moths, run.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2019 04:33 PM (NWiLs)

265 Dating advice: when in doubt, whip it out.

Posted by: hope solo at December 23, 2019 04:33 PM (ngSZO)

266 247 I am still dating the navy submariner guy with kids. Like him a ton, and his kids. But he is moving glacially slow in the affection side. We have not even kissed yet. He had the perfect opportunity last night. We were snuggling on the couch, kids asleep, playing audio book of wheel of time series. I looked up at him with big eyes, hoping he would lean down and kiss me, and he never did. Bah!

I bought mistletoe in a box as part of his Christmas present so he gets the hint. And he is socially obligated to kiss me at New Years, right?
Posted by: LizLem at December 23, 2019 04:23 PM (fGXo6)


Be assured that if you marry him this will be his modus after you all settle in.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:33 PM (nhBb/)

267 NGU: Is that a Married with Children reference?
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:51 PM (oZ6kz)

Yes LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2019 04:33 PM (cEsBM)

268 There is a lot to be said for "turn it on and it behaves the way you think it should" simplicity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 04:31 PM (I2dne)


Funny, I am just the opposite. I built the damn thing and now I'm bored with it. The building, wiring, programming was the fun part for me. The only attraction now is that the kids like to play it when they come over for a visit.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 23, 2019 04:34 PM (kUmUV)

269 Yet I still see Michelle on magazine covers.

=====

Didn't see MRO today at the local. Kate (?) is the current obsession.

I am pretty sure I saw Laura Bush a few times a year on covers at the checkout.

I have no idea why the hate for Melania Trump (aside from her husband). Probably because she knows fashion and style as well as, or better than, the current style babies.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 23, 2019 04:34 PM (MIKMs)

270 Weird, I was just think about re-reading the WoT series the other day.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 04:34 PM (xfb67)

271 Where's JackStraw?

I think Nancy is trying to jam Mitch into capitulating.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:34 PM (nhBb/)

272 Wait, wut? Is the House going to vote on them again, or is tacking on additional charges after the vote some new privilege of the Speaker that we've never heard of?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 23, 2019 04:28 PM (2cHP9)


Deem is passed Obamacare precedent.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 23, 2019 04:35 PM (zE7bX)

273 99 One more reason why I like Paul, and then I'll give it a rest:

He still lives in his community full-time, and practices as an ophthalmologist - a real job, and one where he does significant outreach to bring eye care to poor people through the Lions Club.

He's an actual fuckin' American in government.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at December 23, 2019 03:42 PM (Adu0z)

This is a feather in Dr. Paul's cap. How many people do we send to DC just so they wind up moving there and shifting everything, including their mailing addresses, there?

My outgoing Rep (Mac Thornberry, TX-13) is like that. He might still be listed as being from Clarendon, but he lives and works in DC now. Once he retires from Congress at the end of 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if he stays out in DC instead of returning to the TX Panhandle. Now, I can think of far worse than Mr. Thornberry, and on the whole, I like him - but he has been seduced by the Swamp, and he lives there now.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 23, 2019 04:35 PM (vc9hX)

274
Where's JackStraw?

I think Nancy is trying to jam Mitch into capitulating.
Posted by: Braenyard

======

How in hell?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 23, 2019 04:35 PM (2cHP9)

275 >> Weird, I was just think about re-reading the WoT series the other day.


*Tugs braid*

Posted by: Nynaeve a'l Meara at December 23, 2019 04:36 PM (AUnSf)

276 271 Where's JackStraw?

I think Nancy is trying to jam Mitch into capitulating.

===

lol, it's the Cats Peach Mint as they try to rerelease the film as it's failing at the box office

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 23, 2019 04:36 PM (FEQY4)

277 Funny, I am just the opposite. I built the damn thing and now I'm bored with it. The building, wiring, programming was the fun part for me. The only attraction now is that the kids like to play it when they come over for a visit.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 23, 2019 04:34 PM (kUmUV)
++++++++++++
That used to be me. Working in this industry for more than a decade has made me far less enthusiastic about it in my home life. Too much like work.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2019 04:36 PM (I2dne)

278 271 Where's JackStraw?

I think Nancy is trying to jam Mitch into capitulating.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:34 PM (nhBb/)

Mitch is smarter than that. If she pushes too hard he'll just fail to take it up because the House mucked with the original Bill of Impeachment.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 23, 2019 04:36 PM (RD7QR)

279 kallisto, I saw your posts on the ONT but missed the follow up

so the guy got arrested alive?
with no homes burned down, no dogs shot?

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 23, 2019 04:36 PM (G546f)

280 260 When starting a new relationship, get invited to new person's house, and check out basement, attic, and crawlspace.
Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 04:31 PM (90T4r)



Come on. You don't want her to see the pit in the basement on her first visit.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 23, 2019 04:37 PM (zE7bX)

281 I've been wanting to build a new PC for gaming, but haven't pulled the trigger. The pace that new hardware comes out now is ruining all the fun.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 04:37 PM (xfb67)

282 279 kallisto, I saw your posts on the ONT but missed the follow up

so the guy got arrested alive?
with no homes burned down, no dogs shot?
Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 23, 2019 04:36 PM (G546f)

He didn't have a dog for them to shoot so they added a charge for obstructing an officer in the performance of his duties.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2019 04:38 PM (pI4nx)

283 I would vote for Rand Paul in a hot minute for anything.

Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 23, 2019 04:38 PM (G546f)

284 nood

Posted by: hogmartin at December 23, 2019 04:39 PM (t+qrx)

285 The pace that new hardware comes out now is ruining all the fun.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe


No kidding. In the time it takes to design and build a bleeding edge box it's obsolete before you finally turn it on. It's just nuts.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Democrats, Media, and Deep State: Hostis Humani Generis
at December 23, 2019 04:39 PM (Rvlwi)

286 245 LizLem - He sounds kinda clueless about those sort of hints like I am. The other two girls I was dating sort of, yknow, forced the issue themselves, but they weren't as classy as our Ettes.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 04:27 PM (oZ6kz)

Women speak in the language of hint all the time. Where I am shut out in the cold is that I an expected and demanded to know all these hints, when in truth, I don't.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 23, 2019 04:39 PM (vc9hX)

287 282 279 kallisto, I saw your posts on the ONT but missed the follow up

so the guy got arrested alive?
with no homes burned down, no dogs shot?
Posted by: vmom wishing everyone a Happy Horde Christmas at December 23, 2019 04:36 PM (G546f)

He didn't have a dog for them to shoot so they added a charge for obstructing an officer in the performance of his duties.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2019 04:38 PM (pI4nx)


No Labradoodle to shoot? What kinda Christmas is that for a LEO?

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2019 04:40 PM (90T4r)

288 276. Adding to the articles before sending them is actually admitting that Mitch is right. How can he make rules and call witnesses before there are official charges?

If the articles can be added to, then they are not official and final, therefore rules cannot be set forth. If she does add to them, it is actually a sign that she knows the deal is up, and she needs to send everything they have right now.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at December 23, 2019 04:40 PM (JRaU+)

289 Mitch is smarter than that. If she pushes too hard he'll just fail to
take it up because the House mucked with the original Bill of
Impeachment.
=====

When have either Nancy or Chucky even shown basic respect for Mitch or his title?

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 23, 2019 04:41 PM (MIKMs)

290 281 I've been wanting to build a new PC for gaming, but haven't pulled the trigger. The pace that new hardware comes out now is ruining all the fun.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 04:37 PM (xfb67)


So just last week I watched a video from Jayztwocents. I think that's how they have their YouTube channel. He said that now is the time to build a pc if you want to after he had been saying to just wait all year. So seems like things may be at a decent stable point for the moment.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 23, 2019 04:42 PM (zE7bX)

291 Jesse Lee Peterson expounds on Michelle Obama and "this weak, poor, pathetic, pitiful, excuse for a man".
Exceptional views accompany the exposition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwoSvbFjDUc

Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:42 PM (nhBb/)

292 I've been wanting to build a new PC for gaming, but haven't pulled the trigger. The pace that new hardware comes out now is ruining all the fun.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2019 04:37 PM (xfb67)

--

I was the same and ended up watching slickdeals dot com until a tempting one came up. It ended up being right at $600 with a Ryzen processor, a VR capable card (1660 IIRC), and a warranty on everything. I don't think it would be possible for me to build one for that even without counting the time spent and any additional troubleshooting if it didn't work when I pressed the "on" button.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rosemary Collyer didn't kill herself at December 23, 2019 04:42 PM (Kjtec)

293 243 Pat Buchanan and Rand Paul

1. establish good foundation for point
2. develop point
3. on a roll
4. off the rails/to the moon

They can't help themselves.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 23, 2019 04:26 PM (nhBb/)



No disagreement there. The Crazy Uncles of Punditry / Politics.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 23, 2019 04:42 PM (ujg0T)

294 https://youtu.be/h7gdiASDRbI


There's the video about it.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 23, 2019 04:43 PM (zE7bX)

295 LizLem, tell him you've heard about ADCAPs, and ask him if he could initiate firing point procedures.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 23, 2019 04:44 PM (68Mkq)

296 Our country Should've listened to Pat and Ron decades ago.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 23, 2019 04:45 PM (/I91/)

297 Dude must be a boomer rider.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 23, 2019 04:48 PM (68Mkq)

298 257 Y'all with the aging parents, I salute all of you. Having done my own time in that department I know all too well what you're signing up for. It's the most tragic honor you'll ever have. It's a joy you'll never forget and a sadness you'll never regret.
------
Been there, done that. It can take a few years off of you. I would do it again in a minute.

Posted by: Groundhog at December 23, 2019 04:49 PM (VYwSh)

299 5
Anyone else have the problem with the HQ where if you reload the page
when there are a bunch of twitter links it doesn't keep your spot on the
page?
Very few of the keys that ought to move you up and down do work correctly here. In particular, try scrolling to the end (End key) and then going back via repeated use of PageUp. The first press of PageUp sometimes works. The rest do nothing.
I assume this problem is in the Minx software -- which does what minks do.

Posted by: jdgalt at December 23, 2019 05:22 PM (3SFo/)

300 Grandparents - parents are dead.

They need a lot of help around the house - and also, it's a nice house in a convenient place for me work-wise and I don't need to pay rent. I'm very used to it and averse to change. But they'll probably need to move to a nursing home soon so I'll buy getting a different place, I can't live in that big house alone.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at December 23, 2019 03:47 PM (oZ6kz)

The youngest boy in my family stayed in the family house with my mother. I think being a support for your parent is showing responsibility rather than irresponsibility.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 23, 2019 05:46 PM (eoQWY)

301 Adding to the articles before sending them is actually admitting that Mitch is right. How can he make rules and call witnesses before there are official charges?

If the articles can be added to, then they are not official and final, therefore rules cannot be set forth. If she does add to them, it is actually a sign that she knows the deal is up, and she needs to send everything they have right now.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at December 23, 2019 04:40 PM (JRaU+)

If they change the articles in any way they should be revoted by the full House.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 23, 2019 05:48 PM (eoQWY)

302 Rand Paul, now that's a funny guy.

Posted by: steve walsh at December 23, 2019 06:26 PM (ibtv7)

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