Epstein Guard Willing to Cooperate With Invesgitators

I don't expect this means a lot, but you know, Epstein did not kill himself.*

A Manhattan prison guard is willing to cooperate with a federal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein's death -- even though she's been accused of goofing off while he hanged himself, her lawyer said Wednesday.
Tova Noel "did not make any efforts to frustrate the Government's investigation" following Epstein’s jailhouse suicide, defense lawyer Jason Foy said in a statement.
"In fact, Ms. Noel remains available to fully and truthfully cooperate with the Inspector General’s investigation, which is also geared toward uncovering the many problems that existed from the commencement of her employment [and] which continue to plague the Metropolitan Correctional Center."
Foy didn't respond to a message asking what sort of info Noel could provide.

* As I've said, I actually think Epstein did kill himself. The idea of corrupt cops working for Hillary Clinton or the Royal Family bumping him off is just too big a thing for me to accept, on an intuitive, gut-guess level.

But I think it's generally salutary to distrust the government to the very maximum.

I also think it's funny to upset the Hall Monitors in our media and government who freak out if you mention a non-liberal-approved Conspiracy Theory.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:08 PM

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1 Hey!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2019 01:07 PM (Y4EXg)

2 linn ridge!

Posted by: tbodie at November 21, 2019 01:07 PM (khjar)

3 No suicide here, nope.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 21, 2019 01:08 PM (fK2gX)

4 Or Sponge!

Posted by: tbodie at November 21, 2019 01:08 PM (khjar)

5 Heh. Off "Joe Biden" sock.

Would have been funny if Joe Biden got a First.

Posted by: zombie at November 21, 2019 01:08 PM (fK2gX)

6 damn you guys are fast.

probably as fast as the guards impending suicide that has Hillary so distraught...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 21, 2019 01:08 PM (8D42x)

7 We did NOT see the lady in a bad pantsuit kill Epstein!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 21, 2019 01:08 PM (JFO2v)

8

Where's the outrage?
They're pinning this whole thing on two black people.

Posted by: Soothie at November 21, 2019 01:08 PM (93/8p)

9 Anyone know where to send the condolences gift basket for this guard's suicide?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 21, 2019 01:09 PM (KUaJL)

10 If this guy dies, it's probably just the Werther Effect.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 21, 2019 01:09 PM (KUaJL)

11 What's an "invesgitator"?

Is that laome kind of tater?

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:09 PM (H8fSa)

12 I'll be the sacrifice...for a price.

Posted by: Prison Guard at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (CLteG)

13 Amongst the set of "People who did not kill themselves," Jeffrey Epstein is a member.

Posted by: zombie at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (fK2gX)

14 Castor continues to underwhelm.

Posted by: pep at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (T6t7i)

15 Federal indictments have a way of focusing the mind.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (ZLI7S)

16 Tova Noel? Sounds fierce.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (ptqGC)

17 I would like to extend my heartfelt condolences to Ms. Noel's family for her impending suicide.

Posted by: Steve at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (8UCMB)

18 Gonna take a whole lot of murder to end this killing! Slo Joe

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (U7cQ/)

19 My condolences in advance to Noel's family.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (2PXwn)

20 No truth to the rumor that Hillary Clinton has already sent a condolence card to the Noel family on Ms. Noel's sudden heartattack next week.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (3gUPN)

21 In fact, Ms. Noel remains available to fully and truthfully cooperate with the Inspector Generals investigation, which is also geared toward uncovering the many problems that existed from the commencement of her employment [and] which continue to plague the Metropolitan Correctional Center.

I read that more as a threat than promise to cooperate.

Posted by: tbodie at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (khjar)

22 This is almost insulting. The idea that this will be legitimately investigated is a joke.

Posted by: Max Power at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (q177U)

23 Did they interview her in Epstein's cell? Because that would be a great motivator for telling the truth.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (i0g9J)

24 Tova Noel? Sounds fierce.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM

Isn't that like the third day before Advent?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (U7cQ/)

25 I thought that read 'Epstein willing to cooperate' and thought that Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: torabora at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (Y274z)

26 Normally, in a situation like this, the best defense is to say you think Epstein killed himself.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (YslsA)

27 the guard is female? huh

Posted by: vmom having a day of small bad portents at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (G546f)

28 Women have no place as prison guards.

You hear all kinds of crazy stories where these inmates manipulate them and suck then into their world.

Posted by: Blago at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (sjTfF)

29 I got nothing on this one.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (NWiLs)

30 Tova Noel is a woman. The other guard who is also black is a man.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (WI7YS)

31 Apparently, the security cam showing the hallway down toward his cell (one way in) made it clear that the guards or no one else entered his cell that night, which seems to rule out a murder. But what if it was a compelled suicide? Someone outside got him a message, "Kill yourself or this person you dearly love (a sister? a child?) will suffer an agonizing death."

Posted by: vrf at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (L8qt4)

32 Velly interesting!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 21, 2019 01:12 PM (so+oy)

33 If I uunderstand this right, the government's defense is we're a bunch of buffoons who didn't even try to do our jobs.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 21, 2019 01:12 PM (5xHY0)

34 Classic Prisoner's Dilemma.

Only, the Poor Prisoner was killed.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:12 PM (gh1GI)

35 The appearance of impropriety.

Posted by: filbert at November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (NiXyF)

36 Tova Noel Did Not Kill Herself

Posted by: J. Epstein at November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (khjar)

37 Odds that Noel dies before Christmas?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (yRAFu)

38 Apparently, the security cam showing the hallway down toward his cell (one way in) made it clear that the guards or no one else entered his cell that night, which seems to rule out a murder. But what if it was a compelled suicide? Someone outside got him a message, "Kill yourself or this person you dearly love (a sister? a child?) will suffer an agonizing death."
Posted by: vrf

_________

I heard the cameras were turned off? Is that not correct?

Posted by: Blago at November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (sjTfF)

39 Subway sandwiches, a MAGA hat and a noose were found in Epstiens cell.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (U7cQ/)

40 Do we have any natural born Americans that can do these jobs?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (vGJY7)

41 Investigators: Cooperate with us or you'll be on the other side of the bars.
Guard (inner monologue): That's really bad for people like me. But then again, look what they did to Epstein. No place is safe.
Guard (verbally): Sure thing boss, I'm an open book.
Guard (inner monologue): I sure hope my Lawyer can ensure that I get a single-occupancy cell in a high-security block if this thing goes sideways on me.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (I2dne)

42
This is almost insulting. The idea that this will be legitimately investigated is a joke.

If by "legitimately investigated" you mean a bunch of BJ Cliton's paid operatives getting drunk and laughing their asses off at the rest of us for thinking that what they're doing is a legitimate investigation.
And saying "You know, Epstein didn't kill himself."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (HaL55)

43 20 No truth to the rumor that Hillary Clinton has already sent a condolence card to the Noel family on Ms. Noel's sudden heartattack next week.

The rumor that a script was delivered to Ms Noel for her to study for a week while in custody is also baseless.

Posted by: JEM at November 21, 2019 01:14 PM (8erNz)

44 Apparently, the security cam showing the hallway down toward his cell
(one way in) made it clear that the guards or no one else entered his
cell that night,
What if the video was manipulated?*

* we can't have facts messing with our memes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (r+sAi)

45 This is almost insulting. The idea that this will be legitimately investigated is a joke.
Posted by: Max Power at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (q177U)
+++++++++++
It will be legitimately investigated. Uniforms, questioning, various folderol, reports, the whole magilla.

Unless by "legitimate" you mean "the outcome is not known in advance and ensured by bad actors."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (I2dne)

46 I'll take "Things You Shouldn't Say if You Value Your and Your Family's Life" for $1000, Alex.

Posted by: Lurker Extraordinaire at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (hkgcg)

47 Off dead sock.

Posted by: tbodie at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (khjar)

48 Ah, Fiona Hill is mad at Trump because he spoke badly about a fellow female diplomat, and Trump had the gall to go outside their channel.

Posted by: pep at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (T6t7i)

49 Oddly I channel surfed into The Green Mile last night. Seems state prison guards are a whole lot better at prisoning than Fed prison guards and any black man in a state prison is an angel of God that can save mice. If the movie has Tom Hanks in it it is the gospel truth.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (yRAFu)

50 The last Noel. The Clintons did say...

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (U7cQ/)

51 But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out sight
"Happy Christmas to all, and Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself!"

Posted by: Guzalot at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (prSvo)

52 Do we have any natural born Americans that can do these jobs?Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (vGJY7)

Does the article comment on their background? They may very well both have been born in the U.S.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (WI7YS)

53 Some...times in our lives

We all have pain, we all have sorrow.

But...if we are wise, we know that

Epstein didn't kill himself

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 21, 2019 01:16 PM (Hi8cV)

54 Courtroom drawing of Tova Noel, 31.

The NY Post claims she "snoozed and shopped for furniture online" while Jeffrey Epstein wasn't killing himself.

https://tinyurl.com/tgnuoee

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:16 PM (ptqGC)

55 The response to Julian Castro's Tweet in the sidebar are precious and boil down to "you rubes are too stupid to understand why the president should be impeached, evidence be damned. He's guilty because your betters say he is. Now on with the Kangaroo Trial, peasants!"

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:16 PM (H8fSa)

56 This guards name wouldn't be Patsy would it?

Posted by: Guzalot at November 21, 2019 01:16 PM (prSvo)

57 Women have no place as prison guards.
..........

We need to keep punching at this problem, keep punching and punching.

Posted by: wth at November 21, 2019 01:17 PM (v0R5T)

58 Epstein's death...the story that just won't die.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2019 01:17 PM (JoUsr)

59 So just to recap:

Epstein was arrested for running a pedophile ring involving many powerful and influential people in the world.
Epstein manages to "commit suicide" despite being on suicide watch involving an absurd series of coincidences.
Everybody saw this coming.

Better investigate those guards! Wouldn't want justice to fail here!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 21, 2019 01:17 PM (KUaJL)

60 Tova Noel 'did not make any efforts to frustrate the Government's investigation'

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That strikes me as odd. How is not making efforts to frustrate the investigation now cooperation? And, who IS making efforts to frustrate the investigation?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 21, 2019 01:17 PM (YslsA)

61 Ms. Noel should put off buying in bulk at Costco for a while because she, too, will not be the person who killed herself.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 21, 2019 01:17 PM (iw59Q)

62

Breaking News: Tova Noel found dead of apparent suicide. She emptied a gun into the back of her head and then strangled herself just to make sure

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 21, 2019 01:17 PM (mpeBU)

63 I'm beginning to wonder if this is like the plot of a famous G.K. Chesterton "Father Brown" short story.

In the story, just as in Epstein's case, a man is locked in a cell with absolutely no way in or out -- no windows, no vents, nothing, except for a single solid door. Several people are standing outside the door, and they hear the guy inside yelling, "Oh dear! Help! Hellpppp!" Everyone is alarmed and think he is being killed. One guy says "I'll rush inside to see what happened to him!" He opens the door, rushes inside and immediately yells, "The man in the cell has been murdered!" Lo and behold, everyone else rushes in to see that he has indeed been murdered.

But how could that have happened? There was no one in the cell with him at the time.

Father Brown eventually deduces that the man in the cell had, at first, NOT been murdered. And that the killer was in fact the first guy who rushed in, who very quickly killed the victim and only THEN announced he had been murdered.

(And yes, this plot device was later re-used in the first episode of the "Death in Paradise" British comedy-mystery TV series, in case it seems familiar.)

So I'm wondering: Who exactly was it that "discovered" Epstein's "body." Was the discoverer alone? How many seconds/minutes went by before the initial discoverer informed anyone else?

Posted by: zombie at November 21, 2019 01:18 PM (fK2gX)

64 On Homicide Hunter last night, a black Male cokehead armed robber murderer was named Precious. Maybe that's what made him so mean.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 21, 2019 01:18 PM (5xHY0)

65 We need to keep punching at this problem, keep punching and punching.
Posted by: wth

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Damn straight!

Posted by: Ike Turner at November 21, 2019 01:18 PM (prSvo)

66 "In fact, Ms. Noel remains available to fully and truthfully cooperate with the Inspector General's investigation,

"Oh. Oh damn. Who was supposed to be watching her? Oh well, never mind."

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 01:18 PM (wHJ0y)

67 Off punchy sock.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 21, 2019 01:18 PM (prSvo)

68 52 Do we have any natural born Americans that can do these jobs?Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (vGJY7)
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You are confusing SoDiNY as being in America. It is in the Southern District of NY. A Prisoner of SoDiNY is a hopeless man. Ask Roger Stone how this goes.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 01:18 PM (yRAFu)

69 So those are the guards whom the criminal justice system looked at and said "yeah, we're gonna go with these two to watch over the Most Valuable Prisoner In The World.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 21, 2019 01:19 PM (HcHqw)

70 >>That strikes me as odd. How is not making efforts to frustrate the investigation now cooperation? And, who IS making efforts to frustrate the investigation?

Supposedly she was offered a plea deal which she turned down. If she was offered a plea presumably it was to cooperate with the investigation.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:19 PM (ZLI7S)

71 -
--
But what if it was a compelled suicide? Someone
outside got him a message, "Kill yourself or this person you dearly love
(a sister? a child?) will suffer an agonizing death."

Posted by: vrf at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM

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I'll do it!! I'll do it. Just don't harm my anatomically correct Greta Thunberg doll!!!

Posted by: Jeffrey Epstein at November 21, 2019 01:19 PM (aSKRB)

72 The last Noel. The Clintons did say...
Posted by: Minnfidel

Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 01:19 PM (wHJ0y)

73 Wrong thread!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at November 21, 2019 01:19 PM (vGJY7)

74 Fiona Hill is mad at Trump because he spoke badly about a fellow female diplomat, and Trump had the gall to go outside their channel.

Maybe Elizabeth Bank can make a movie about empowered women diplomats that no one will see.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 21, 2019 01:19 PM (3gUPN)

75 We must be willing to put a noose around the neck of prison suicide.

Posted by: Jo Biding at November 21, 2019 01:19 PM (hku12)

76 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (9gDA7)

77 Why didn't they take the plea bargain then if they're going to cooperate?

Posted by: Buzzion at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (SjIcT)

78 So apparently we will be killed by Esptsein killers or become a minuteman.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (pB6Gt)

79 "Tova Noel" sounds like a Jewish Christmas greeting.

And probably makes as much sense.

Posted by: mikeski at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (P1f+c)

80 My theory is the supervisor was persuaded to put the two most incompetent staff on the night Epstein was murdered. The supervisor won't be paid until the heat dies down. Even then, I would be the compensation is not necessarily cash.

Posted by: WOPR at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (J70i0)

81 You know she's going to claim Giuliani paid her 100K on Trumps behalf. Bribery isn't working so it's the next move.

Posted by: scottye_fl at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (mvfG6)

82 74 Fiona Hill is mad at Trump because he spoke badly about a fellow female diplomat, and Trump had the gall to go outside their channel.

Maybe Elizabeth Bank can make a movie about empowered women diplomats that no one will see.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 21, 2019 01:19 PM (3gUPN)

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They'll kick the thinly veiled Trump character in the face and make comments about the glass ceiling while doing it, and handing tampons to each other.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (q80AH)

83

Just as a hunch, she'll offer nothing that will move the "investigation" forward.
MAYBE an admission of dereliction of duty (to a certain extent) but she'll have nada to reveal about any outside presence.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (KATBx)

84 Willowed. Nunes. My time is almost up so ladies and gentleman, turn down the TV, get the kids out of the room because it's now story hour with Adam Schiff. LOL.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (U7cQ/)

85 She tried to give him a beej, but Epstein said she was too old.

In a huff, she ran off pissed that she'd been rejected as too old as the next wave of killers came in and killed him, making it look like a hanging.

Posted by: Sponge at November 21, 2019 01:21 PM (9gDA7)

86 Boy these Ukraine experts sure don't seem to know much about Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:21 PM (ZLI7S)

87 Was Hunter Biden on the prison board?

Posted by: Tentotwo at November 21, 2019 01:21 PM (yhf6w)

88 Tova Noel did not kill herself this coming weekend

Posted by: kbdabear at November 21, 2019 01:21 PM (qAR6u)

89 OT: Apparently some people think Mark Dice is River Phoenix like some people think Alex Jones is Bill Hicks. Very interesting!

Posted by: Augustine at November 21, 2019 01:21 PM (BDZWU)

90 A blank hallway with no motion would be the easiest thing to loop and fake.

Posted by: Jean at November 21, 2019 01:22 PM (brwtQ)

91 62

Breaking News: Tova Noel found dead of apparent suicide. She emptied a gun into the back of her head and then strangled herself just to make sure
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Like that old making-fun-of-racists joke (NOT a racist joke, despite what most people would assume), when the racist southern sheriff, being shown the body of a black man found at the bottom of a lake wrapped in chains, says "Just like a [n-word] to steal more chains than he can swim with."

Posted by: zombie at November 21, 2019 01:22 PM (fK2gX)

92 Why didn't they take the plea bargain then if they're going to cooperate?

Posted by: Buzzion at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (SjIcT)

Maybe cooperate to get a better deal? I figure these two know nothing. They were screwups placed there to allow the murder and to provide some cover to the people involved.

Posted by: WOPR at November 21, 2019 01:22 PM (J70i0)

93 Sounds like she's just going to say the jail is poorly run, nobody does their job, and nothing is her fault.

IOW, the standard government employees' defense for sitting on their ass playing games or shopping on the computer, instead of doing the jobs they're paid to do.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 21, 2019 01:22 PM (k4dH2)

94 While the "investigation" is going after the guards, is anyone looking at the IT fella whose initials are on the sticker on the back of the cameras, from the last time they were inspected?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:22 PM (hku12)

95 Boy these Ukraine experts sure don't seem to know much about Ukraine.

All they know is they hate Trump... I think I've found the "insurance policies" that were spoken of.. It's this whole group of underling "experts."

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2019 01:22 PM (6XlcD)

96 86 Boy these Ukraine experts sure don't seem to know much about Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:21 PM (ZLI7S)

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Beyond who signs their checks, what else do they need?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:22 PM (q80AH)

97 It was Col. Mustard in the Prison Cell with a garotte!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 21, 2019 01:23 PM (wtvvX)

98 That strikes me as odd. How is not making efforts to frustrate the investigation now cooperation? And, who IS making efforts to frustrate the investigation?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 21, 2019 01:17 PM (YslsA)

Maybe you might want to stop asking so many questions. Things could get...frustrating for you.

Posted by: FBI "Cleaning" Crew at November 21, 2019 01:23 PM (BvNzB)

99 I read that more as a threat than promise to cooperate.

Posted by: tbodie at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM

Same here. Sort of, "You better go light on me, or a lot of people are getting thrown under the bus."

A quid pro quo, if you will.

Posted by: Bert G at November 21, 2019 01:23 PM (Y+/QX)

100 I expect this investigation to end as conclusively as the Las Vegas shooter investigation.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 21, 2019 01:23 PM (bDqIh)

101 So those are the guards whom the criminal justice system looked at and said "yeah, we're gonna go with these two to watch over the Most Valuable Prisoner In The World.
Posted by: Anonymous

And El Chapo

Posted by: Jean at November 21, 2019 01:23 PM (brwtQ)

102 If she knows anything she might unexpectedly reach room temperature.

Posted by: steevy at November 21, 2019 01:24 PM (KNsKs)

103 82
They'll kick the thinly veiled Trump character in the face and make comments about the glass ceiling while doing it, and handing tampons to each other.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:20 PM (q80AH)

And even though they'll paint him orange to make it clear that it's supposed to be PDT, instead he'll act exactly like BillyJeff, because he's the sex pest that ACTUALLY creeped on them.

Posted by: Allie at November 21, 2019 01:24 PM (UnA8+)

104 Boy these Ukraine experts sure don't seem to know much about Ukraine.
I've been noticing that too. Vindman and the ambassador also didn't know nuttin about nuttin about Hunter Biden and Burisma.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 21, 2019 01:24 PM (r+sAi)

105 Rush just played audio of Fiona Hill today saying that the Russians planned to destabilize the country no matter who won, and in fact they had been geared up for delegitimizing Hillary.

You can almost hear Schiff never getting an erection again.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019 01:24 PM (ZGrMX)

106 Is it too late to take out a life policy on this person?

Posted by: Joe Mama at November 21, 2019 01:24 PM (UCiEJ)

107 OT: Trump leading Democrat Challengers in Wisconsin

https://tinyurl.com/tc4kklc

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 21, 2019 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

108
Women have no place as prison guards.

You hear all kinds of crazy stories where these inmates manipulate them and suck then into their world.
Posted by: Blago at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM

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Several Female Guards at the Baltimore City Jail were pregnant with the children of the gang boss of Baltimore's biggest drug gang a few years ago. The gang effectively ran the jail, and the gang leader was able to lead the gang while inside the jail. The jail was so corrupt the feds were threatening to take it over. After that, I didn't hear anything more.

Posted by: rd at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (+0uDE)

109
While the "investigation" is going after the guards, is anyone looking
at the IT fella whose initials are on the sticker on the back of the
cameras, from the last time they were inspected?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:22 PM (hku12)

Probably some Indian H1B firm or Pakistani.

Posted by: WOPR at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (J70i0)

110 107 OT: Trump leading Democrat Challengers in Wisconsin

https://tinyurl.com/tc4kklc

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 21, 2019 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

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http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=384404

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (q80AH)

111 You can almost hear Schiff never getting an erection again.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: Joe Mama at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (UCiEJ)

112 Is it too late to take out a life policy on this person?
Posted by: Joe Mama at November 21, 2019 01:24 PM (UCiEJ)
++++++++++++
Yes. If you can make yourself interesting to investigators, however, you can join their tontine.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (I2dne)

113 54 Courtroom drawing of Tova Noel, 31.
The NY Post claims she "snoozed and shopped for furniture online" while Jeffrey Epstein wasn't killing himself.
https://tinyurl.com/tgnuoee
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:16 PM (ptqGC)

Oh my god, just look at the picture and think: we put the security of one of the most high-risk prisoners in the entire country in her hands.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (Kpl3J)

114 You can almost hear Schiff never getting an erection again.

Posted by: Ian S.

--

As long as Tiger Beat magazine is in existence, that should not be a problem.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (YslsA)

115 Who's protecting Epstein's charming/sarc girlfriend and pimp Ghislaine Maxwell?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (WI7YS)

116 "Tunk, tunk".

The sound of boiler plate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2019 01:26 PM (/sgva)

117 >>Several Female Guards at the Baltimore City Jail were pregnant with the children of the gang boss of Baltimore's biggest drug gang a few years ago. The gang effectively ran the jail, and the gang leader was able to lead the gang while inside the jail. The jail was so corrupt the feds were threatening to take it over. After that, I didn't hear anything more.

You saying Male Guards can't get preganat, too?

Fucking Bigot.

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at November 21, 2019 01:26 PM (gh1GI)

118 Fiona Hill is mad at Trump because he spoke badly about a fellow female diplomat, and Trump had the gall to go outside their channel.

Maybe Elizabeth Bank can make a movie about empowered women diplomats that no one will see.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 21, 2019 01:19 PM (3gUPN)

Bureaucratic butt-hurt is really not the way to sway independents to the idea that a president should be impeached.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 21, 2019 01:26 PM (hLRSq)

119 What about the cellmate who was super jacked and had already killed four people?

Posted by: Augustine at November 21, 2019 01:26 PM (BDZWU)

120 Poroshinko, Pinchuk and Obama. Umm, Umm, Good.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 01:26 PM (yRAFu)

121 Nothing hinky about a very high profile prisoner, who has the goods on countless very high powered people worldwide, and is on suicide watch, to have the cameras directed on him be turned off (if that's really true). Nothing hinky about that, at all. It's a colossal "you had one job."

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2019 01:26 PM (JoUsr)

122 105 You can almost hear Schiff never getting an erection again.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019 01:24 PM (ZGrMX)

Assumes Schiff-Head was ever capable of it to begin with.

Posted by: Allie at November 21, 2019 01:26 PM (UnA8+)

123 Just as an aside I am pretty sure David Holmes Likes dick

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM (BqBId)

124 Emerson Poll: "Support for impeachment collapses. Flips from 48% Support October to 43% (45% Oppose). Trump Approval jumps 5 points from 43% to 48%"

Posted by: Ha at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM (Q5eBq)

125 I'll dare to ask the question:

Why is a female prison guard working in the men's prison?

That is known to be a recipe for disaster. Either due to rape attempts by the prisoners, or due to the female guard consensually dallying with a prisoner who convinces her to help him escape.

Wherever they have had female guards in male prisons, one or both of these things generally happen. I thought the criminal justice system wised up and stopped being stupidly PC and removed all female guards from male prisons.

Posted by: zombie at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM (fK2gX)

126
Who's protecting Epstein's charming/sarc girlfriend and pimp Ghislaine Maxwell?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (WI7YS)

Last I heard, Maxwell was missing. Whereabouts unknown.

Of course, that was a few weeks ago, so things might have changed.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM (kw0bd)

127 Apparently, the security cam showing the hallway down toward his cell (one way in) made it clear that the guards or no one else entered his cell that night, which seems to rule out a murder. But what if it was a compelled suicide? Someone outside got him a message, "Kill yourself or this person you dearly love (a sister? a child?) will suffer an agonizing death."
Posted by: vrf at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (L8qt4)

I think that's the most likely scenario.

Epstein was given word, somewhere, somehow, that made him decide that living was worse than dying.

I mean, that's what suicide is, in a nutshell.

The person decides this is the easier way out. So unless one can show that Epstein believed, in and of himself, that his life wasn't worth living, then someone else showed him so.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM (hku12)

128 115 Who's protecting Epstein's charming/sarc girlfriend and pimp Ghislaine Maxwell?
----------------
First guess is British Intel and Prince Andrew.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 01:28 PM (yRAFu)

129 The Federal Government: A jobs program for people named Tova Noel.

Coupled with the Epstein didn't kill himself in jail stuff is the absolutely astonishing and almost unbelievable news that the federal prison system is falling apart and basically sucks.

Would anyone be surprised if the government (meaning you and me) are paying for Noel's lawyer? Either it's a freely provided defense lawyer or she got a good one who will bill the government for services rendered because she's a federal employee.

Just wait until they run your healthcare! And protect you after you've turned in your guns!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 21, 2019 01:28 PM (j3npP)

130 You can almost hear Schiff never getting an erection again.

==

Two words here should never, ever be in the same sentence. For humanity's sake.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2019 01:28 PM (JoUsr)

131 Who's protecting Epstein's charming/sarc girlfriend and pimp Ghislaine Maxwell?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (WI7YS)

Mossad

Posted by: WOPR at November 21, 2019 01:28 PM (J70i0)

132 I can't wait for them to give Tova immunity in return for her saying "sorry I just didn't feel like doing a good job that day. OPPSIE! BAD ON ME! Oh, can I fly off to my new French Chalet now?"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 01:28 PM (WdocV)

133 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:25 PM (q80AH)

Well bless my buttons.
Ignore that one then.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 21, 2019 01:28 PM (hLRSq)

134
Epstein Guard Willing to Cooperate With Investigators

That's noose to him / her / them!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:28 PM (pNxlR)

135 How long until the Guard gets suicided?

Posted by: Surfperch at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (htJYU)

136 Do we have any natural born Americans that can do
these jobs?Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at
November 21, 2019 01:13 PM (vGJY7)

Does the article comment on their background? They may very well both have been born in the U.S.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (WI7YS)

yeah I am not getting the point here. And who cares what race they are really? Some people just need a job. i am not going to criticize them. I read G. Gordon Liddy's book "Will" many moons ago. He was no fan of prison guards as he called them. But some people need jobs. It is likely not glamorous work.

I doubt some guard hatched a plot though they might link someone to something.

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (n13/j)

137 You can almost hear Schiff never getting an erection again.
******
He gets a chubby when little boys are around

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (BqBId)

138 How soon before Epstein's coroner takes a dirt nap?

Posted by: Fritz at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (wo3c/)

139 Apparently, the security cam showing the hallway down toward his cell
(one way in) made it clear that the guards or no one else entered his
cell that night,
What if the video was manipulated?*

* we can't have facts messing with our memes.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 21, 2019 01:15 PM (r+sAi)
Heh, Ocean's 11 shows exactly how this can be done.

Its like a how-to.

Posted by: LASue at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (Ed8Zd)

140 The only thing I've taken away from the hearings is at the beginning of a term, the president should fire every diplomat and DoS employee, strip them of their clearances and make them reapply. These people are a bunch of self-absorbed, self-righteous, subversive, leaking, political operatives who need a lesson on the Constitution and a swift kick in the pants.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (H8fSa)

141 Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM

Except the wounds were not consistent with hanging himself. There was just too many "concidences" with his death. Glad he's gone but would have loved to heard him spill the beans before he checked out. He just knew too much.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (U7cQ/)

142 "Epstein didn't intend to kill himself." -- St. James Comey

Posted by: ShainS at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (kAPL2)

143 Here is more about the latast corruption charges against the Maryland State Prisons. The story I remember was from 2013. This is a whole new one in 2018.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-prison-corruption-20161005-story.html

I guess it is still a corrupt hell hole?

Posted by: rd at November 21, 2019 01:30 PM (+0uDE)

144 Trump won with 46% in 2016.

2020 National GE:

Sanders 51% (+1)

Trump 50% .

Trump 50% Warren 50% .

Trump 51% (+2) Biden 49% .

Trump 52% (+4) Buttigieg 48%

@EmersonPolling

11/17-20

Posted by: Ha at November 21, 2019 01:30 PM (Q5eBq)

145 54 Courtroom drawing of Tova Noel, 31.

The NY Post claims she "snoozed and shopped for furniture online" while Jeffrey Epstein wasn't killing himself.

https://tinyurl.com/tgnuoee
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Holy cow, are you serious? THAT was one of the guards?

She looks about as competent as a mall security guard.

Posted by: zombie at November 21, 2019 01:30 PM (fK2gX)

146 Who's protecting Epstein's charming/sarc girlfriend and pimp Ghislaine Maxwell?

***

She's a pretty tough cookie. She probably offed her own father for playing Mr Epstein with her...

If Barr actually arrests her though? I bet her cell will have issues with its cameras right before her suicide too!

On a more serious note, I wonder if they are leaving her alone because they know if they bring her in to custody that she will get Clinton'd.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 01:30 PM (WdocV)

147 That's noose to him / her / them!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:28

Cell is closed, noose out front shoulda' told ya'.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:31 PM (U7cQ/)

148 I'll dare to ask the question:

Why is a female prison guard working in the men's prison?

That is known to be a recipe for disaster. Either due to rape attempts by the prisoners, or due to the female guard consensually dallying with a prisoner who convinces her to help him escape.

Wherever they have had female guards in male prisons, one or both of these things generally happen. I thought the criminal justice system wised up and stopped being stupidly PC and removed all female guards from male prisons.
Posted by: zombie at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM (fK2gX)

Ummm, no. There are quite a few female staff, not just guards, roaming around in this country's prisons.

So much of this stuff is extraordinarily routine. Most prisoners aren't violent, most prisons aren't hellholes of chaos. Most of the time, it's people (prisoners and staff alike) going about their day to day existence, as if it's normal. Because to them, it is.

So yeah, there are women staff who get abused and/or used by prisoners to smuggle in shit, but really, male staff are just as susceptible to being corrupted as women staff.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:31 PM (hku12)

149 The NY Post claims she "snoozed and shopped for furniture online" while Jeffrey Epstein wasn't killing himself.

https://tinyurl.com/tgnuoee
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:16 PM (ptqGC)

"Shopping for furniture"? She expected to be coming into money soon?

Incidentally, the drawing makes her look like a demented monster. But in a photo I saw last evening, Daily Mail I think, she looks fairly cute.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2019 01:31 PM (/sgva)

150 Except the wounds were not consistent with hanging himself.

_______

Dr. Michael Baden disagrees.

Posted by: ShainS at November 21, 2019 01:31 PM (kAPL2)

151 FBI: To the best of your knowledge, Epstein hanged himself, RIGHT?
Noel: Uh, right?
FBI: Excellent! thanks for your cooperation.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 21, 2019 01:31 PM (uGHnY)

152 Hope the dude has solid death benefits for his family all lined up.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 21, 2019 01:32 PM (zkFz1)

153 Wherever they have had female guards in male prisons, one or both of these things generally happen. I thought the criminal justice system wised up and stopped being stupidly PC and removed all female guards from male prisons.
Posted by: zombie at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM (fK2gX)
-----------------

Actually, it wouldn't really be a problem if there were consequences for consorting with inmates.

You know, like loss of pension, maybe some jail time, etc.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 21, 2019 01:32 PM (qC1Sy)

154 Epstein Guard Willing to Cooperate With Investigators

___

We in the Clinton family send our regards to Ms Noel's family. It will be a shock to all of us when she tragically commits suicide tomorrow.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 21, 2019 01:32 PM (WdocV)

155 The courtroom sketch for Tova and her lawyer has a Georg Gross feel to it.

And what is with the gluing on of hair pieces with the Renaissance high hairline look?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 21, 2019 01:33 PM (Dc2NZ)

156
She looks about as competent as a mall security guard.
Posted by: zombie at November 21, 2019 01:30 PM (fK2gX)

Paul Blart takes grave offense at your remark, with him to his grave, which he enters only grievously.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:33 PM (pNxlR)

157 Going to be a pity when she falls backwards repeatedly into a large pointy thing.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 01:33 PM (7KEgI)

158 http://bit.ly/2O8fna1
*******
Trump Orders Navy: Do Not Take Eddie Gallagher's Navy SEAL Trident Pin

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 01:33 PM (BqBId)

159 Federal prisons aren't exactly bastions of competence. That is unless you're in Super Max.

The federal prisons in every major cities are mostly staffed by people like those two guards. Lazy overweight sloths with a fifth grade education.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:34 PM (H8fSa)

160 What an unlikable, self-important scrunt.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:34 PM (ZLI7S)

161 Apparently, the security cam showing the hallway down toward his cell
(one way in) made it clear that the guards or no one else entered his
cell that night, which seems to rule out a murder.
Posted by: vrf at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM

Eh, there's probably a photograph still taped to the front of the camera.

Posted by: Bert G at November 21, 2019 01:34 PM (Y+/QX)

162
Apparently, the security cam showing the hallway down toward his cell (one way in) made it clear that the guards or no one else entered his cell that night, which seems to rule out a murder. But what if it was a compelled suicide? Someone outside got him a message, "Kill yourself or this person you dearly love (a sister? a child?) will suffer an agonizing death."
Posted by: vrf at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (L8qt4)

I think that's the most likely scenario.

Epstein was given word, somewhere, somehow, that made him decide that living was worse than dying.

I mean, that's what suicide is, in a nutshell.

The person decides this is the easier way out. So unless one can show that Epstein believed, in and of himself, that his life wasn't worth living, then someone else showed him so.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM (hku12)

I've been saying that since day one. I think he was goaded into thinking that he had no other choice, and then he was deliberately placed in a falling-apart Fed facility staffed by lazy retards.

The effect is the same: dead pedo. But arguably, there's no actual crime committed. Plus, murder has a nasty habit of spiraling out of control and causing more problems than it solves.

Regardless, I'm enjoying the squirming going on from various miscreants every time a sarcastic right-winger says Epstein Didn't Kill Himself.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2019 01:34 PM (kw0bd)

163 And what is with the gluing on of hair pieces with the Renaissance high hairline look?

Schiff does not wear a rug.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 01:34 PM (7KEgI)

164 Wonder if Ghislane gave up Jeffrey?

Posted by: insurance at November 21, 2019 01:35 PM (WX+x0)

165 Weren't there claims that the facility was massively understaffed and that people were working ridiculous hours so of course they were sleeping on the job?

I expect that will be the excuse, oh we weren't watching because, gosh darn it, we were too tired. And we told people the cameras were broken but there wasn't money to fix them.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 21, 2019 01:35 PM (mf5HN)

166 14
Castor continues to underwhelm.

Posted by: pep at November 21, 2019 01:10 PM (T6t7i)

_______

Once again, he's not ricin to the occasion.

Posted by: ShainS at November 21, 2019 01:35 PM (kAPL2)

167 Better investigate those guards! Wouldn't want justice to fail here!
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 21, 2019 01:17 PM (KUaJL)

Best place to start an investigation, for sure. If there was a conspiracy to either murder Epstein, or to "assist" his suicide, the guards had to either be in on it, or somehow sidelined. Get them to give up the others.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2019 01:35 PM (/sgva)

168 Trump Orders Navy: Do Not Take Eddie Gallagher's Navy SEAL Trident Pin

Trump's orders are undermining official military policy. Or something.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (7KEgI)

169 The federal prisons in every major cities are mostly
staffed by people like those two guards. Lazy overweight sloths with a
fifth grade education.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:34 PM (H8fSa)

The countries' best and brightest aren't exactly lining up to be prison guards.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (CQ3Qb)

170 Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM

Except the wounds were not consistent with hanging himself. There was just too many "concidences" with his death. Glad he's gone but would have loved to heard him spill the beans before he checked out. He just knew too much.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (U7cQ/)

I know that's what Michael Baden says. He's very very old now, and he's been more of a celebrity coroner than an actual coroner for some time now.

I'm not sure if anyone else is saying so, but he doesn't strike me as terribly credible at this point.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (hku12)

171 You can almost hear Schiff never getting an erection again.

==

Two words here should never, ever be in the same sentence. For humanity's sake.

---
Meh. As long as he gets the erection up his ass...

Posted by: BluesFish at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (WQZ1O)

172 I think Rush wants to blow Tim Cook.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (zH/vB)

173 170
I know that's what Michael Baden says. He's very very old now, and he's been more of a celebrity coroner than an actual coroner for some time now.

I'm not sure if anyone else is saying so, but he doesn't strike me as terribly credible at this point.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (hku12)

========

But he's on the TV.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (q80AH)

174 She's giving her word as a Noel. Sounds legit.

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (X+a7J)

175 Fiona plays the 'girl' card. "Wicked men don't understand my righteous anger!"

Posted by: lizabth at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (L3Rsz)

176 I'm waiting for Nunez to come in and start his questioning of each "witness" like this:

Good Morning/Afternoon. Now that we're continuing this Schiff show, I would like to start with this. Do you have anything to bring to the table on High Crimes or Misdemeanors or are you just "Orange Man Bad?"

Posted by: Sponge at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (IXZGh)

177 One problem with all of this is I very much doubt the guards were actually in on it.

You profile your two worst slackers, incentivize them to slack, and then get your real operators in there while your slackers are slacking.

My presumption is that someone "helped" Epstein kill himself - that it wasn't actually murder - and they might have been in that cell for a long time. I can believe someone convincing Epstein to do so when the alternative is a lifetime of prison rape.

Epstein doing it by himself though? He's a pimp, not a secret agent.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (WdocV)

178 Weren't there claims that the facility was massively understaffed and that people were working ridiculous hours so of course they were sleeping on the job?

This is known as an overtime scam.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (7KEgI)

179 I'm not sure if anyone else is saying so, but he doesn't strike me as terribly credible at this point.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (hku12)

Especially when he's on the payroll of Epstein's brother. He'll write whatever report he's paid to write.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (CQ3Qb)

180
Once again, he's not ricin to the occasion.
Posted by: ShainS at November 21, 2019

We've bean told this, repeatedly.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (pNxlR)

181 ******

Trump Orders Navy: Do Not Take Eddie Gallagher's Navy SEAL Trident Pin

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 01:33 PM (BqBId)

Bam!

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (n13/j)

182 165
Weren't there claims that the facility was massively understaffed and
that people were working ridiculous hours so of course they were
sleeping on the job?

I expect that will be the excuse, oh we weren't watching because,
gosh darn it, we were too tired. And we told people the cameras were
broken but there wasn't money to fix them.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 21, 2019 01:35 PM (mf5HN)

________

I blameTrump, who failed to provide enough funding for prisons! /

Posted by: ShainS at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (kAPL2)

183 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (CQ3Qb)
**********
Not so broad brush My Cousin who was in 1st Gulf War was a Penitentiary Guard & was/is not fat

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (BqBId)

184 Hell hath no fury like a female bureaucrat scorned.

Posted by: Gref at November 21, 2019 01:38 PM (AMIL/)

185 This testimony is as boring as the Dem debates are insane. WTF is the point of all this BS? Trump must be impeached because of meetings, phone calls with a colleague and notes?

Posted by: Ripley at November 21, 2019 01:38 PM (MxEKc)

186 If Joe Biden gets any more brain dead we can get him pronounced legally dead.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2019 01:39 PM (O7kBk)

187 185 This testimony is as boring as the Dem debates are insane. WTF is the point of all this BS? Trump must be impeached because of meetings, phone calls with a colleague and notes?
Posted by: Ripley at November 21, 2019 01:38 PM (MxEKc)

=========

You forgot opinions and concerns.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:39 PM (q80AH)

188 I wonder if this woman has any clue how bad she is coming off?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:39 PM (ZLI7S)

189 Fiona plays the 'girl' card. "Wicked men don't understand my righteous anger!"
*******
If I was there I would say WAIT!!! you are a woman ??? Who knew

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 01:39 PM (BqBId)

190 "It was like that when I got here." said Homer Simpson.

That'll be $450,000.00

Correct, its a markdown.

Posted by: 80's music fan at November 21, 2019 01:39 PM (glGDV)

191 188 I wonder if this woman has any clue how bad she is coming off?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:39 PM (ZLI7S)

=======

Ann Althouse wrote about how much she loves the woman's accent.

Gotta love her erudite commentary, you know?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:39 PM (q80AH)

192 You forgot opinions and concerns.

AHEM. PRESUMPTIONS AND ASSUMPTION, PEOPLE.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 01:40 PM (7KEgI)

193 I did not kill myself.

Posted by: Tova Noel at November 21, 2019 01:40 PM (vN4+Q)

194 The only thing I've taken away from the hearings is at the beginning of a term, the president should fire everyone ~~diplomat and DoS employee, strip them of their clearances~~ and make them reapply. These people are a bunch of self-absorbed, self-righteous, subversive, leaking, political operatives who need a lesson on the Constitution and a swift kick in the pants.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (H8fSa)
+++++++++++
FIFY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 01:40 PM (I2dne)

195 Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:39 PM (ZLI7S)
******
Can't tell if serious !

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 01:40 PM (BqBId)

196
I did not kill myself.

Posted by: Tova Noel at November 21, 2019 01:40 PM (vN4+Q)
___

YET!

Posted by: Hillary CLinton at November 21, 2019 01:40 PM (WdocV)

197 There are good people who would take those federal jobs. But those places are run like a patriarchy. It's all about who you know. Then once your in its all about having job protections that allow you to do what you want and never get fired.

If this wasn't such a high profile case, these two would probably be suspended with pay and be back at work in a month, after they got back from Aruba.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:41 PM (H8fSa)

198 I think we need to stop this terrible rumors about Jeffrey Epstein's suicide, just stop it dead, wrap our fingers about the rumor's throat and squeeze the life out of it until it stops moving, then claim that the rumor just debunked itself.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 21, 2019 01:41 PM (fK2gX)

199 Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:27 PM (hku12)

I've been saying that since day one. I think he was goaded into thinking that he had no other choice, and then he was deliberately placed in a falling-apart Fed facility staffed by lazy retards.

The effect is the same: dead pedo. But arguably, there's no actual crime committed. Plus, murder has a nasty habit of spiraling out of control and causing more problems than it solves.

Regardless, I'm enjoying the squirming going on from various miscreants every time a sarcastic right-winger says Epstein Didn't Kill Himself.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2019 01:34 PM (kw0bd)

Yup. There's no justice to be had here.

If anything, the fact that it's a big joke just helps normalize the notion that the rich and powerful can get away with anything they want.

If Bill Clinton goes to bed at night, fretting over his legacy, then I guess that's some small comfort, but I kinda doubt he does. I think he goes to bed at night, remembering all the nubile girls he's f**ked over the years, and believes he deserved it as a reward for being such a feminist hero.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:41 PM (hku12)

200 Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:34 PM (H8fSa)

The countries' best and brightest aren't exactly lining up to be prison guards.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (CQ3Qb)

I am not defaming anyone as anyone who does a job well should be proud. But Liddy said there were two types of people in prison. There was the group that was forced to spend their days in prison and there was the group that volunteered to spend their days in prison. That is Liddy talking.

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 01:41 PM (n13/j)

201
... strip them of their clearances and make them reapply. These people are a bunch of self-absorbed, self-righteous, subversive, leaking, political operatives who need a lesson on the Constitution and a swift kick in the pants.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (H8fSa)

Amen and amen to stripping them of their security anclearances

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:42 PM (pNxlR)

202 off screen some one should toss a big white towel into view, anyone, don't care who.

Posted by: insurance at November 21, 2019 01:42 PM (WX+x0)

203 Fiona is coming off as a know-it-all, brash, unpleasant female bureaucrat. Who feels she is the President.

Posted by: lizabth at November 21, 2019 01:42 PM (L3Rsz)

204 WTF is the point of all this BS?
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Avoiding truth and throwing poo at Trump. Been that way for three fucking years. Obama must be protected.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 01:42 PM (yRAFu)

205 140 The only thing I've taken away from the hearings is at the beginning of a term, the president should fire every diplomat and DoS employee, strip them of their clearances and make them reapply. These people are a bunch of self-absorbed, self-righteous, subversive, leaking, political operatives who need a lesson on the Constitution and a swift kick in the pants.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy
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Sounds like something that has been said repeatedly on this here very blog since Orange Mad Bad took office. First order of business is to clean house. All the way down to the pest control guy and the butler yet.

Should be the first order of business or any administration IMHO.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 21, 2019 01:42 PM (lwKRt)

206 I wonder if this woman has any clue how bad she is coming off?

Posted by: JackStraw

She has a strong British accent which, as libs all know, is a sure sign of moral and intellectual superiority so they are falling in love with her.

Posted by: Ripley at November 21, 2019 01:42 PM (MxEKc)

207 We're not just hanging around talking about it, we're gonna choke out suicide!

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:42 PM (U7cQ/)

208
Amen and amen to stripping them of their security and other government issued clearances. Go find honest work, you shitstains.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:43 PM (pNxlR)

209 Fiona plays the 'girl' card. "Wicked men don't understand my righteous anger!"

Settle down sugartits. You act like we care.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 01:43 PM (kDUUX)

210 http://bit.ly/2qpIQ6n
*******
Ep. 1116 This Entire Impeachment Hoax is Based on Lies. The Dan Bongino Show 11/21/2019. - YouTube

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 01:43 PM (BqBId)

211
If Bill Clinton goes to bed at night, fretting over his legacy, then
I guess that's some small comfort, but I kinda doubt he does.

***

As of right now there is more evidence Bill Clinton was raping underage teenagers on pedo island then there is that Trump demanded a "bribe" from Ukraine.

And yet we've got the impeachment inquiry going on, and presumably Clinton is bedding teenagers outside of the Epstein network now.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (WdocV)

212 >>She has a strong British accent which, as libs all know, is a sure sign of moral and intellectual superiority so they are falling in love with her.

Her accent sounds similar to my buddy from Manchester. He would slap you if you called him elite.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (ZLI7S)

213 RE: Impeachment TV

How does Trump get so lucky to have such thoroughly unlikable enemies.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (Xqo6t)

214 187 185 This testimony is as boring as the Dem debates are insane. WTF is the point of all this BS? Trump must be impeached because of meetings, phone calls with a colleague and notes?
Posted by: Ripley at November 21, 2019 01:38 PM (MxEKc)

=========

You forgot opinions and concerns.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:39 PM (q80AH)

And butt-hurt over being ignored and bypassed.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (hLRSq)

215
The Epstein murder just had too much traction in the public. This EDKH thing wouldn't go away, and someone has to take the fall, so it's gonna be these two. I'm sure they've been promised a lenient plea deal and a nice payoff if they cop to whatever the FBI tells them to cop to.

And, ya know, all of the EDKH jokes aside, I was pretty much split as to whether it was murder or simply that these people were paid to look the other way in Epstein's case.

But now that the FBI is saying he killed himself, I know for 100% sure that Epstein Didn't Kill Himself.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (AzW6q)

216 Fiona comes across as an angry ex.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (ptqGC)

217 I think I'll need to turn my TV volume way down when Jim Jordan gets into it with this one.

Posted by: Gref at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (AMIL/)

218 *?*

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (Xqo6t)

219 This lady should just say she called the Code Red and get it over with.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (H8fSa)

220 I think he goes to bed at night, remembering all the nubile girls he's f**ked over the years, and believes he deserved it as a reward for being such a feminist hero
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He doesn't think himself a hero. A rock star maybe. I don't think sociopaths have great depth. Being shallow and self absorbed is a much simpler way to bet.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 01:45 PM (yRAFu)

221 You know who else didn't kill himself?

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 01:45 PM (M0u+N)

222 A sociopathic child molester would never kill them self. Especially one that has beaten the rap before.

Posted by: Max Power at November 21, 2019 01:45 PM (q177U)

223
209 Fiona plays the 'girl' card. "Wicked men don't understand my righteous anger!"

Settle down sugartits. You act like we care.
Posted by: at November 21, 2019 01:43 PM (kDUUX)

Honestly, it's your vagina dentata that is terrifying

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:45 PM (pNxlR)

224 I've been jolted in my relationships and now I'm here to take it out on Trump. Harrumph.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:45 PM (H8fSa)

225 175 Fiona plays the 'girl' card. "Wicked men don't understand my righteous anger!"
Posted by: lizabth at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (L3Rsz)

"Well, understand this, Finn. I don't like you, therefore I identify you as a fat old Florida Man."

Posted by: Allie at November 21, 2019 01:45 PM (UnA8+)

226 Fiona= deep state Nanny-in-charge.

Posted by: lizabth at November 21, 2019 01:45 PM (L3Rsz)

227
... strip them of their clearances and make them reapply. These people are a bunch of self-absorbed, self-righteous, subversive, leaking, political operatives who need a lesson on the Constitution and a swift kick in the pants.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 21, 2019 01:29 PM (H8fSa)

Amen and amen to stripping them of their security anclearances
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:42 PM (pNxlR)

And when you leave a govt job, you have to reapply for your clearance, if you're moving to a private sector job that requires one.

If LockMart needs cleared personnel right out of govt service, then they can pay for expedited security clearances.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2019 01:45 PM (kw0bd)

228 she'll claim she was just goofing off, no one prompted her to "stand down".
OR

they will arrange her fake death, give her reconstructive surgery, move her to a remote location where she will hide away in witness protection ... then she gives up the people involved in making sure cameras didn't work and that he had no cellmate ...

and then she will still be Arkancided in her federally protected site, by way of DeepState Hydra bureaucrat leakers.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 21, 2019 01:45 PM (Cus5s)

229 I'm not sure if anyone else is saying so, but he doesn't strike me as terribly credible at this point.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (hku12)

Especially when he's on the payroll of Epstein's brother. He'll write whatever report he's paid to write.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 21, 2019 01:37 PM (CQ3Qb)

LEAVE EPSTEIN'S BROTHER ALONE! He's a fine, upstanding boy, and everything he says and does is honest and true. Just like his brother, Epstein's brother's brother.

Posted by: Epstein's Mother at November 21, 2019 01:45 PM (hku12)

230 Trump should issue an EO, right now, to the effect that any bureaucrat attempting to engage in diplomatic efforts at odds with the president's policy will be fired, immediately, and charged with violating the Logan Act.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 01:46 PM (WdocV)

231 I expect this really to go no where on Epstein. It will find that the prison didn't properly train and audit the staff to make sure they were actually doing their rounds and instead just pencil whipping their check sheets. Some mid level idiots will be found responsible and fired and they'll tell the prison guards that they need to actually start doing their jobs and they mean it this time.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 21, 2019 01:46 PM (SjIcT)

232 I am not defaming anyone as anyone who does a job well should be proud. But Liddy said there were two types of people in prison. There was the group that was forced to spend their days in prison and there was the group that volunteered to spend their days in prison. That is Liddy talking.
Posted by: Quint

I did my four years. Hell of an eye opening job.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 01:46 PM (kDUUX)

233
She has a strong British accent which, as libs all know, is a sure sign of moral and intellectual superiority so they are falling in love with her.
Posted by: Ripley at November 21, 2019 01:42 PM (MxEKc)

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It's always fascinated me that Americans think a cultivated British accent means intelligence. It's the damnedest thing.

It's like... "you do know the English elite you think are so clever are very badly inbred, right?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 01:47 PM (AzW6q)

234 You act like we care.

Ooooh. I like that one. Imma use it.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 01:47 PM (M0u+N)

235 @230 Yes!

Posted by: lizabth at November 21, 2019 01:47 PM (L3Rsz)

236 The countries' best and brightest aren't exactly lining up to be prison guards. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (CQ3Qb)
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You aren't from IL, are you. Was just at a wedding and someone celebrating that he just got a prison job. If you are stuck in IL, regular pay and spectacular pension if you can hold out long enough, that is gold standard. See, also, teachers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 21, 2019 01:47 PM (MIKMs)

237
Erudite? Isn't that chunked raw veggies and ranch dip served at all the best parties?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:47 PM (pNxlR)

238 Minority counsel is inept. Who hired him?

Posted by: Frasier Crane at November 21, 2019 01:47 PM (dmYb7)

239 >>It's always fascinated me that Americans think a cultivated British accent means intelligence.

If they are using their mouths properly, I don't see what the accent has to do with it?

Unless that accent requires rolling your 'Rs'?

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:48 PM (gh1GI)

240 We did NOT see the lady in a bad pantsuit kill Epstein!
...
...on a Tuesday while wearing a pink carnation not between 1:45 and 2:05 while the cameras were not also working ...maybe.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 21, 2019 01:48 PM (Dh1wo)

241 Minority counsel is inept. Who hired him?
Posted by: Frasier Crane at November 21, 2019 01:47 PM

Who cares what color he is!

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:48 PM (U7cQ/)

242 It's like... "you do know the English elite you think are so clever are very badly inbred, right?"
***

Also, they managed to guide Britain from being the world's Hyper Power into a country that can't manage assert its independence from....Belgium.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 01:48 PM (WdocV)

243 Mmmm...ranch.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 01:48 PM (M0u+N)

244 It's always fascinated me that Americans think a cultivated British accent means intelligence. It's the damnedest thing.

It's like... "you do know the English elite you think are so clever are very badly inbred, right?"

Insert Monty Python "Upper Class Twit of the Year" sketch here.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 01:49 PM (7KEgI)

245 It's always fascinated me that Americans think a cultivated British accent means intelligence. It's the damnedest thing.

It's like... "you do know the English elite you think are so clever are very badly inbred, right?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 01:47 PM (AzW6q)

She's the daughter of a coal miner. She pretty much acquired that accent during her years at elite schools.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:49 PM (ptqGC)

246 But now that the FBI is saying he killed himself, I know for 100% sure that Epstein Didn't Kill Himself.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

What makes it so bad, is that most everyone said he'd be suicided within a month, and damned if we weren't right.

Who ever heard of a person's lawyer getting them removed from suicide watch? Once you are in the system, that's a doctor's call. Not your lawyer.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 01:49 PM (kDUUX)

247 198 I think we need to stop this terrible rumors about Jeffrey Epstein's suicide, just stop it dead, wrap our fingers about the rumor's throat and squeeze the life out of it until it stops moving, then claim that the rumor just debunked itself.
Posted by: Joe Biden

LOL!

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 21, 2019 01:49 PM (vN4+Q)

248 212 >>She has a strong British accent which, as libs all know, is a sure sign of moral and intellectual superiority so they are falling in love with her.

Her accent sounds similar to my buddy from Manchester. He would slap you if you called him elite.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (ZLI7S)

To my untrained low brow American ears the only time British doesn't really sound sophisticated is when they have the accent that make them pronounce "three" as "free"

Posted by: Buzzion at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (SjIcT)

249 I haven't watched the hearings today. Just tuned in.

Angry Fiona Hill was just complaining about something being "deeply unfair."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (ptqGC)

250 >>She's the daughter of a coal miner. She pretty much acquired that accent during her years at elite schools.

Which means it is fake.

You don't grow an accent from living somewhere.

You adopt one. As an affectation.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (gh1GI)

251 It's always fascinated me that Americans think a cultivated British accent means intelligence. It's the damnedest thing.

Plus that a lot of Americans can't recognize the accent difference between Pall Mall and Glasgow, much less Chiswick.

Posted by: JEM at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (8erNz)

252 If you think a cultivated British accent denotes intelligence you've never heard of Prince Charles.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (M0u+N)

253
She's the daughter of a coal miner. She pretty much acquired that accent during her years at elite schools.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:49 PM (ptqGC)

Crystal Gayle is testifying?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (pNxlR)

254 244 It's always fascinated me that Americans think a cultivated British accent means intelligence. It's the damnedest thing.
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These are same Americans who fall for the Dizzy Dean, good ole boy, toe in the dirt routine over and over again. Mostly Yankees. Terry Bradshaw has been living large on this for decades. Billy Clinton got two terms with this shit.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (yRAFu)

255 I just conducted an impromptu experiment comparing Google and Duck Duck Go. I'm interested in the Bolivian situation, it's a proto-civil war in a modern politically divided society, I want to keep up with developments.

So I searched "Bolivia News" on google and got pages of links that said "New Dictatorship Forming!" "Army leads Coup against Democratically elected President!!" "Army Massacres Peaceful Protestors!" Nothing but that kind of stuff from every fringy site on the web.

BUT if you go with Duck Duck Go, you "New Government Scheduling elections" "Morales Supporters attempt to shut down food and fuel shipments" and "Morales attempted to turn Bolivia into a Narco-State."

The tone in coverage is so vastly different that it's amazing. And this from supposedly "neutral" search engines.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (Kpl3J)

256 Crystal Gayle is testifying?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (pNxlR)

Loretta Lyn ch

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (U7cQ/)

257 We did NOT see the lady in a bad pantsuit kill Epstein!
...
...on a Tuesday while wearing a pink carnation not between 1:45 and 2:05 while the cameras were not also working ...maybe.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 21, 2019 01:48 PM

In cell #4...on the 9th floor...

Posted by: Billy Ray Valentine at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (ejd/p)

258
Which means it is fake.

You don't grow an accent from living somewhere.

You adopt one. As an affectation.
Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (gh1GI)

Someone remembers when Madonna was living with Guy Ritchie....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (kw0bd)

259 Angry Fiona Hill was just complaining about something being "deeply unfair."

It is... To Trump

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (6XlcD)

260
Plus that a lot of Americans can't recognize the accent difference between Pall Mall and Glasgow, much less Chiswick.
Posted by: JEM

Sod off, wanker

:-)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (pNxlR)

261 @125

Having worked in corrections (state level) for a long time there are a couple reasons why female officers work in male prison facilities and vice versa.

The 1st reason is who can search visitors -- much like how male police officers on the street must call for a female officer to conduct a search of a female suspect. Female correctional officers can perform physical searches of female visitors that male officers are prohibited from conducting.

The 2nd reason has to do with job assignment discrimination. Because female offenders are often a much smaller population compared to male offenders there are fewer facilities to house females. This means that from a job assignment (and billets to promote qualified candidates into) it would limit female correctional officers from ever holding higher rank or assignments compared to male officers. So all job assignments must be open to all applicants provided they meet all other requirements (time in service/grade, education, etc.)

Posted by: Nevyan at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (uM5FU)

262 I am not defaming anyone as anyone who does a job well should be proud. But Liddy said there were two types of people in prison. There was the group that was forced to spend their days in prison and there was the group that volunteered to spend their days in prison. That is Liddy talking.
Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 01:41 PM (n13/j)

Kind of true. And, in a sense, there are lots of guards who view the job as a deadender, and they get a mindset that they're victims of the system, more than the prisoners.

Corruptions among guards often comes from that perspective. They MADE me take this rotten job, to endlessly watch over these bad people, so I'm gonna get mine where I can.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (hku12)

263 You adopt one. As an affectation.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (gh1GI)

Like Madonna.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (ptqGC)

264 regular pay and spectacular pension if you can hold out long enough, that is gold standard. See, also, teachers.

***
We've got this weird situation now where do to immigration, illegal immigration and outsourcing we've dramatically suppressed working class wages.

And yet we make up do nothing, or slightly better, government jobs to make up the difference....which is absurd.

I'd rather see landscapers/nannies/etc be Americans making American wages and teachers and bureaucrats earning about the same (as was traditionally the case mind you).

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (WdocV)

265 Honestly, the English accent is almost worse than the Southern one.

I can NEVER understand a fucking thing these people are saying.

I a convinced that is why they think Americans are 'Daft'. It takes us a good 20-30 seconds to parse the horrible accent for the words.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (gh1GI)

266 Angry Fiona Hill was just complaining about something being "deeply unfair."

Obvious high crime and/or misdemeanor.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (7KEgI)

267 >>Like Madonna.

Yes. This.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (gh1GI)

268 263 You adopt one. As an affectation.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (gh1GI)

Like Madonna.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (ptqGC)

=========

Gillian Anderson developed one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (q80AH)

269 Didn't Fiona Hill open for Shawn Colvin at Lilith fair?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (U7cQ/)

270 Loretta Lyn ch
Posted by: Minnfidel

Sissy Spacek I think you mean.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (M0u+N)

271 Honestly, the English accent is almost worse than the Southern one.

Bless your heart.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (7KEgI)

272
Crystal is Loretta's sister.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (pNxlR)

273 Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (gh1GI)

I disagree. My sister has lived with an Englishman since 1972, She lived first in Australia and then in England since then. She sounds rather English when she talks on the phone because she is surrounded by English people. She still has a NJ accent but with an English overlay, and she's not a person that would fake anything.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (WI7YS)

274 Honestly, the English accent is almost worse than the Southern one.

I can NEVER understand a fucking thing these people are saying.

*glares*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (ptqGC)

275 248 To my untrained low brow American ears the only time British doesn't really sound sophisticated is when they have the accent that make them pronounce "three" as "free"
Posted by: Buzzion at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (SjIcT)

"'ELLO, GUVNA!"

Posted by: Allie at November 21, 2019 01:53 PM (UnA8+)

276 >>Which means it is fake.

>>You don't grow an accent from living somewhere.

>>You adopt one. As an affectation.

I say, old bean, that is rather odd and inflammatory slur.

Has anyone seen my casual ascot?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 01:53 PM (ZLI7S)

277 242 It's like... "you do know the English elite you think are so clever are very badly inbred, right?"
***

Also, they managed to guide Britain from being the world's Hyper Power into a country that can't manage assert its independence from....Belgium.

Posted by: 18-1

Belgium - Germany's speed bump

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 21, 2019 01:53 PM (vN4+Q)

278 Epstein didn't ki. himsef.

/Tova No-L

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 01:53 PM (m45I2)

279 You adopt one. As an affectation.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (gh1GI)

Like Madonna.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM

Or if you're Hillary, too far to be tarred..

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:53 PM (U7cQ/)

280 Honestly, the English accent is almost worse than the Southern one.

___

Them's fight'n words you damn yankee

Posted by: Some southerner at November 21, 2019 01:53 PM (WdocV)

281 Falsifying government records isn't like a real crime-crime, ya know.

And from what I've seen, the lawyer has a valid point. It goes on with federal (and state) employees all the time. This one is one of my favorites, though:

USA Today, May 7, 2014 An EPA employee with a work-from-home job did no work for five years -- and still earned a total of $600,000 and performance bonuses. She retired after an inspector general investigation.

She claimed she was on special assignment with the CIA, and no one, including her boss, bothered to check up on that. For FIVE years.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 21, 2019 01:53 PM (Z4rgH)

282 >>Crystal Gayle is testifying?

She doesn't want to lose your love.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:53 PM (gh1GI)

283 >>>The tone in coverage is so vastly different that it's amazing. And this from supposedly "neutral" search engines.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (Kpl3J)

Google is destroying it's brand. I hope there will be consequences.

Posted by: Max Power at November 21, 2019 01:54 PM (q177U)

284 Madonna doesn't count. Retard.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 01:54 PM (M0u+N)

285 Honestly, the English accent is almost worse than the Southern one.

------

To me, a lot of Southern accents, particularly the high-class, educated Southerners, sound like English accents that just kinda got melted in the heat down there.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 01:54 PM (AzW6q)

286 >>Bless your heart.

Fuck your sister.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:54 PM (gh1GI)

287 Britishisms.

Prince Andrew dropped his royal duties.

Royal Duties is British for 'trousers'

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 01:54 PM (m45I2)

288 But now that the FBI is saying he killed himself, I know for 100% sure that Epstein Didn't Kill Himself.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 01:44 PM (AzW6q)
+++++++++
Never believe a rumor until it is confirmed with an official denial.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 01:54 PM (I2dne)

289 To my untrained low brow American ears the only time British doesn't really sound sophisticated is when they have the accent that make them pronounce "three" as "free"
Posted by: Buzzion

Let's not argue about 'oo killed 'oo.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 01:54 PM (kDUUX)

290 Fiona Hill is a talker and obviously thinks she is the smartest person in the room. But she is they type of witness that a good cross-examiner would eviscerate given enough a time.

Perhaps in hearings like this where cross time is limited, filibustering is not a bad strategy.

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (sX1BW)

291 To my untrained low brow American ears the only time British doesn't really sound sophisticated is when they have the accent that make them pronounce "three" as "free"
Posted by: Buzzion at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (SjIcT)

"'ELLO, GUVNA!"
Posted by: Allie at November 21, 2019 01:53 PM

Please...just stop.

Posted by: Henry Higgins at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (ejd/p)

292 > "Fiona comes across as an angry ex." --Posted by: Jane D'oh

She needs a new hair style too. The one she has makes her look like the communist agent Irina Spalko in the last Indiana Jones film.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (HcHqw)

293 I thought Fiona Hill married Shrek.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (r+sAi)

294 Don't it make my white face blue...

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (U7cQ/)

295
Gillian Anderson developed one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (q80AH)

Actually, she was raised in England, so the accent is kind of returning back to the norm.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (kw0bd)

296 Fiona Apple was kind of cute.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (U7cQ/)

297 http://bit.ly/37rIsEY
*******
Meet Fiona Hill - The Soros Mole Aiming To Take Down Trump - NewsWars

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (BqBId)

298
281 Falsifying government records isn't like a real crime-crime, ya know.

It was a firing offense in my own corner of the corporate world (D'Pont) to falsify company records.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (pNxlR)

299 It really is something to parade a bunch of disgruntled gov't drones with hurt feelings to try and take down a President who was elected on draining the swamp.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 21, 2019 01:56 PM (/ZYFC)

300 Face it, as far as working for the State goes, picking up dead animals off the road is probably a better job than being a prison guard. At least you get to be outside most of the time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2019 01:56 PM (Kpl3J)

301 I understand that there's an old FBI saying to the effect that those who are first on the bus get the best seats. That seems to apply here.

Posted by: IronDave at November 21, 2019 01:56 PM (0mskG)

302 But what if it was a compelled suicide? Someone outside got him a message, "Kill yourself or this person you dearly love (a sister? a child?) will suffer an agonizing death."
Posted by: vrf at November 21, 2019 01:11 PM (L8qt4)

The General Rommel solution.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 21, 2019 01:56 PM (qyH+l)

303 To me, a lot of Southern accents, particularly the high-class, educated Southerners, sound like English accents that just kinda got melted in the heat down there.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Hah. It's true.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 01:56 PM (M0u+N)

304 Can Hunter Biden's Burisma income be used to calculate his coming child support obligation?

Posted by: DOGGFISH at November 21, 2019 01:56 PM (lMn1U)

305 You adopt one. As an affectation.
Posted by: garrett

Like Madonna.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

*******

Or the Lexus (and Dyson vacuums) voiceover woman on the commercials.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 01:56 PM (m45I2)

306 Bret Baer throws a wrench in Fiona Hill's impeachment hearing testimony

https://tinyurl.com/s5wt4jy

Posted by: redridinghood at November 21, 2019 01:56 PM (wiXsO)

307 Fingers crossed.

Just filed two Hospital Indemnity claims with Aflac. Hopefully I did it right, because if I did, Aflac will be paying me more money than we spent at the hospital for the delivery.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 01:56 PM (q80AH)

308 The one she has makes her look like the communist agent Irina Spalko in the last Indiana Jones film.
***

There was one interesting part of that movie...

Red scare! Red scare! and on and on....

But the whole plot of the movie was the Soviets doing bad stuff around the world including in the US.

It can't be deep satire of the modern left's view of the cold war can it?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 01:57 PM (WdocV)

309 Fiona Apple was kind of cute.
Posted by: Minnfidel

In a sullen "don't touch" kinda way.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 01:57 PM (M0u+N)

310 304 Can Hunter Biden's Burisma income be used to calculate his coming child support obligation?
Posted by: DOGGFISH at No

His ex wife claims he's broke and "blew" through his money

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2019 01:57 PM (6XlcD)

311 Hey, garrett, I'll give you one chance to apologize.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 01:57 PM (7KEgI)

312 If you take the worst accusations of all these witnesses, if you can figure what they even are form this maze of BS, and assume they are true, not one comes even close to Obama's "Tell Vlad I'll have more flexibility on missile defense after the election" Which was caught on open mike for all the world to hear! Hard evidence. Yet here we are with this shit-show bases on opinion, hurt feelings, meeting and notes.

What a farce the MSM has become. Treasonous weasels, all of them

Posted by: Ripley at November 21, 2019 01:57 PM (MxEKc)

313 Fuck your sister.
Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:54 PM (gh1GI)

I would prefer not to, or was it tha you would?

P.S.Was that necessary simply because I disagreed with your point?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:57 PM (WI7YS)

314 Honestly, the English accent is almost worse than the Southern one.

I can NEVER understand a fucking thing these people are saying.

I a convinced that is why they think Americans are 'Daft'. It takes us a good 20-30 seconds to parse the horrible accent for the words.
Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:51 PM (gh1GI)

Yonks ago I had to call HP tech support to be told that the issue with my laptop was a failing motherboard (thankfully under warranty) as I knew but the dance of let us do all the tech support steps had to be done to get the replacement covered by the warranty. This was right around the time HP was doing a huge all our tech support is based in America PR push.

When I first called, I got someone obviously in India who had a very lovely accent. She assured me she was just routing me to the correct US based support location.

The guy I got to help me was a GOB from Texas. After about ten minutes of what what back and forth, I nearly asked him to put the nice Indian lady back on.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 21, 2019 01:57 PM (mf5HN)

315 The countries' best and brightest aren't exactly lining up to be prison guards. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 21, 2019 01:36 PM (CQ3Qb)
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You aren't from IL, are you. Was just at a wedding and someone celebrating that he just got a prison job. If you are stuck in IL, regular pay and spectacular pension if you can hold out long enough, that is gold standard. See, also, teachers.
Posted by: mustbequantum at November 21, 2019 01:47 PM (MIKMs)

Yes, Illnoise overpays its state employees. Whilst going tens of billions of dollars further in debt each year.

Of course, that doesn't translate into them hiring the "best and the brightest." It just means idiots are being overpaid.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 01:57 PM (hku12)

316 254: Terry Bradshaw is from Louisiana and lives on a ranch along the Red River (can't remember what side of it). He sounds like a bumpkin but he's fairly bright. A head case but bright.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 21, 2019 01:57 PM (vN4+Q)

317 ..., picking up dead animals off the road is probably a better job than being a prison guard.

********

Just make sure your carrion fits in the overhead bins.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (m45I2)

318 His ex wife claims he's broke and "blew" through his money

Pretty sure there was some inhaling going on, too.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (7KEgI)

319 She claimed she was on special assignment with the CIA, and no one, including her boss, bothered to check up on that. For FIVE years.
Posted by: GnuBreed

Honestly? The boss was probably happy to have her gone.

When you can't fire an asshole employee...

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (kDUUX)

320 Perhaps in hearings like this where cross time is limited, filibustering is not a bad strategy.
Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (sX1BW)

Wait until she gets to the Senate. Different rules.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (qyH+l)

321
P.S.Was that necessary simply because I disagreed with your point?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:57 PM (WI7YS)

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I don't think that was directed at you, Fen.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (AzW6q)

322 Face it, as far as working for the State goes, picking up dead animals
off the road is probably a better job than being a prison guard. At
least you get to be outside most of the time.
***

Depends on where doesn't it? Alaska in the winter, Florida in the summer or Baltimore all year round are kind of soul killing assignments.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (WdocV)

323 Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:54 PM

A little harsh garrett.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (U7cQ/)

324 If someone offered me a prison yob as a Dentist, and yes they have those, I would take it in a NY Minute. It pays well, great benefits, and easy work.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (cEsBM)

325 picking up dead animals off the road is probably a better job than being a prison guard. At least you get to be outside most of the time.

--

Plus, free lunch.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 21, 2019 01:59 PM (YslsA)

326 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (AzW6q

It's a little difficult to tell around here sometimes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:59 PM (WI7YS)

327 >>I'll give you one chance to apologize.

For what?

For using a polite insult to counter a polite insult?

That 'Bless Your Heart' bullshit deserves an in kind response.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:59 PM (gh1GI)

328 Emerson poll shows orangeMan at 48% approval. Keep pushing impeachment Dems.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 21, 2019 01:59 PM (zkFz1)

329 Camera moved from Fiona Hill to Meghan Green. Much easier on the eyes.

Posted by: BluesFish at November 21, 2019 01:59 PM (WQZ1O)

330 At our house when we watch a British show we have to use the English subtitles.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 01:59 PM (m45I2)

331
His ex wife claims he's broke and "blew" through his money
***

How many millions did he get exactly again? Or did Joe just take Hunter's share?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 01:59 PM (WdocV)

332 330 At our house when we watch a British show we have to use the English subtitles

LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2019 02:00 PM (6XlcD)

333 Perhaps in hearings like this where cross time is limited, filibustering is not a bad strategy.
Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 01:55 PM (sX1BW)

Wait until she gets to the Senate. Different rules.

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Exactly. I actually think she has been their best witness. Low Bar.

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 02:00 PM (sX1BW)

334 >>If someone offered me a prison yob as a Dentist, and yes they have those, I would take it in a NY Minute. It pays well, great benefits, and easy work.

Particularly if it was a prison in West Virginia. You could examine each prisoners tooth and be out of there in one day.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 02:00 PM (ZLI7S)

335 COBS,

I'd appreciate a ruling on garrett saying "fuck your sister" being a polite insult.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 02:00 PM (7KEgI)

336 Speaking of accents, I just finished listening to an audio collection of Sherlock Holmes narrated by Stephen Fry. His American accent sounds off.
I can't define why it sounds off but it just doesn't sound right to me.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at November 21, 2019 02:01 PM (Uu+Jp)

337 Re: Google Back on election night I searched for election results for my county and after the "official" government results page the next three were to various democrat entities.

I'll still search Google for some generic stuff, but nothing that might be lefty compromised

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at November 21, 2019 02:01 PM (48RE5)

338 These are same Americans who fall for the Dizzy Dean, good ole boy, toe in the dirt routine over and over again. Mostly Yankees. Terry Bradshaw has been living large on this for decades. Billy Clinton got two terms with this shit.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (yRAFu)

This whole country just like ma' flock of sheep!!

Posted by: Lonesome Rhodes at November 21, 2019 02:01 PM (CqE5x)

339 Many years back had to work with a Brit. Great guy but his accent was really really thick. After a while though I started t understand him better and I became his "translator" with other co-workers.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 02:01 PM (U7cQ/)

340 I'd appreciate a ruling on garrett saying "fuck your sister" being a polite insult.

___

Seems ok to me.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at November 21, 2019 02:01 PM (WdocV)

341 I'd appreciate a ruling on garrett saying "fuck your sister" being a polite insult.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 02:00 PM (7KEgI)

Have you ever seen my sister?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2019 02:01 PM (cEsBM)

342
273 Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (gh1GI)

I disagree. My sister has lived with an Englishman since 1972, She lived first in Australia and then in England since then. She sounds rather English when she talks on the phone because she is surrounded by English people. She still has a NJ accent but with an English overlay, and she's not a person that would fake anything.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (WI7YS)

I know a couple where she's an Australian immigrant to Texas. Her accent is mostly that delightful Aussie, but occasionally a Texas drawl creeps in. It's confusing at times.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2019 02:02 PM (kw0bd)

343 Oh well then... Fiona Hill worked with Christopher Steele.

Nothing to see here, just kind of a small side dish at Thanksgiving Dinner that people kind of walk by, nothing really, maybe just a little taste, looks kinda iffy, just pass it up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 21, 2019 02:02 PM (r+sAi)

344
Speaking of accents, I just finished listening to an audio collection of Sherlock Holmes narrated by Stephen Fry. His American accent sounds off.
I can't define why it sounds off but it just doesn't sound right to me.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at November 21, 2019 02:01 PM (Uu+Jp)

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Very few Englishmen can mimic it well enough that you really can't tell at all.

Idris Elba can. Carroll Connor could.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 02:02 PM (AzW6q)

345 Exactly. I actually think she has been their best witness. Low Bar

She's the Dems new darling now

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2019 02:02 PM (6XlcD)

346 ust make sure your carrion fits in the overhead bins.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (m45I2)

clever. But that is not surprising.

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 02:02 PM (n13/j)

347 What's that saying about England and the US being people being separated by a common language?

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at November 21, 2019 02:02 PM (48RE5)

348 Doesn't being a prison guard involve hot young women in sun dresses washing cars?

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at November 21, 2019 02:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

349 Oh well then... Fiona Hill worked with Christopher Steele.

Seriously? WTAF?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 02:02 PM (U7cQ/)

350 >Just make sure your carrion fits in the overhead bins.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (m45I2)

groooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaan

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 21, 2019 02:03 PM (sjdRT)

351 Exactly. I actually think she has been their best witness. Low Bar

She's the Dems new darling now

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Heck she even got in a "Women are held to a different standard than men" argument to discredit Sondaland. Her whole testimony was to discredit yesterday's morning star witness.

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 02:03 PM (sX1BW)

352 Have you ever seen my sister?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Is she hot?

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:03 PM (M0u+N)

353 If someone offered me a prison yob as a Dentist, and yes they have those, I would take it in a NY Minute. It pays well, great benefits, and easy work.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2019 01:58 PM (cEsBM)

I was offered a prison job. Would have involved taking a pay cut, and until I moved, an hour drive each way.

I almost took it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:04 PM (hku12)

354 Fiona Hill is a twat

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at November 21, 2019 02:04 PM (KSBDE)

355 349 Oh well then... Fiona Hill worked with Christopher Steele.

Seriously? WTAF?
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 02:02 PM (U7cQ/)
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I'm with Minnfidel.

Posted by: WisRich at November 21, 2019 02:04 PM (G0vdT)

356 OK, then.

Garrett, feel free to stick your ignorant-ass Yankee head in a blender and hit "puree."

GOLLEEE, I'LL GO OVER HERE AND TRY TO FIND SOME SHOES.

Asshat.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 02:04 PM (7KEgI)

357 334
>>If someone offered me a prison yob as a Dentist, and yes they
have those, I would take it in a NY Minute. It pays well, great
benefits, and easy work.

Particularly if it was a prison in West Virginia. You could examine each prisoners tooth and be out of there in one day.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 02:00 PM (ZLI7S)

Billy Cannon, LSU's last Heisman winner, became a dentist after football and ended up going to prison for counterfeiting. After doing his time he took the dentist job at Angola penitentiary. He's credited with rebuilding the state corrections medical/dental system and was a hero to the convicts. Not many people know that.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 21, 2019 02:04 PM (CQ3Qb)

358 Doesn't being a prison guard involve hot young women in sun dresses washing cars?
Posted by: Northernlurker

According to the historical documents.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:04 PM (M0u+N)

359 Idris Elba can. Carroll Connor could.
***

I wonder if they had cast Idris as the newest Bond instead of that KGB looking guy if he would have gone back to the traditional "British cool" motif for Bond instead of the gay curious Bolivian water inspector bond we got...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 02:04 PM (WdocV)

360 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu responded Thursday to the Attorney General's decision to indict him for bribery, fraud and breach of trust.

"I respect the Israeli judicial authorities very much. They have earned a world-wide name and rightly so. But one has to be blind to not see that something not good is happening with the police and the prosecutor's office," Netanyahu said.

"Today we see an attempt to make a government coup against the prime minister with false allegations and in the process of tainted and biased investigations.

"I've given my life for the State. I fought for it and was wounded for it."

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2019 02:05 PM (cEsBM)

361 342
273 Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 01:50 PM (gh1GI)

I disagree. My sister has lived with an Englishman since 1972, She lived first in Australia and then in England since then. She sounds rather English when she talks on the phone because she is surrounded by English people. She still has a NJ accent but with an English overlay, and she's not a person that would fake anything.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 01:52 PM (WI7YS)

I know a couple where she's an Australian immigrant to Texas. Her accent is mostly that delightful Aussie, but occasionally a Texas drawl creeps in. It's confusing at times.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

I went to a wedding a few years ago in Boston. My friend married a Chinese girl. Imagine a room fool of Chinese accents with that Bawston thing added on. It was interesting.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 21, 2019 02:05 PM (vN4+Q)

362 If you worked in a prison there would be an ever present sense of shadenfreud.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:05 PM (M0u+N)

363 Remember in the news where Epstein attempted suicide about 2 weeks prior to his death? At that time the conspiracy was failed murder attempt. Did anybody visit him after that and verify he was, in fact, suicidal?

Posted by: steve at November 21, 2019 02:06 PM (TTy55)

364 nood anyhoo

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:06 PM (M0u+N)

365 >>Oh well then... Fiona Hill worked with Christopher Steele.

She's also a longtime Soros drone who had no idea that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election despite the fact that she is a Ukraine "expert".

I'm not sure how this could be going any better for Trump, the whole country is getting to see what our bureaucrats are all about.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 02:06 PM (ZLI7S)

366 COBS,

I'd appreciate a ruling on garrett saying "fuck your sister" being a polite insult.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 02:00 PM (7KEgI)

Bless your heart" is an extraordinarily condescending insult.

Yeah, I think if you're going to use it, you ought to expect an "in kind" response.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:06 PM (hku12)

367 303 To me, a lot of Southern accents, particularly the high-class, educated Southerners, sound like English accents that just kinda got melted in the heat down there.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
Hah. It's true.
Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 01:56 PM (M0u+N)

There was a very good video piece done a few years back which went into detail into how all the regional American accents were descended from the British regional accents corresponding to the colonists in those area. Britain used to have far greater variety than it does in the 20th century (there's still some) What we call King's English is mainly London and Oxford English. Most northern american accents are descended from Yorkshire, and the Boston accent is believed to be derived from an early to mid 19th century Irish accent, which was much different than a modern Irish accent. (And Ireland had regional accents as well, especially a city/country split)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2019 02:06 PM (Kpl3J)

368 To me, a lot of Southern accents, particularly the high-class,
educated Southerners, sound like English accents that just kinda got
melted in the heat down there.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Pretty much exactly what it is.

Posted by: Bert G at November 21, 2019 02:06 PM (Y+/QX)

369 361: full. no fool. duh. me engrish is bad

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 21, 2019 02:06 PM (vN4+Q)

370 You don't grow an accent from living somewhere.

As someone who's lived for extended periods in areas of the US with distinct accents, I disagree. You do absorb elements of the accent around you subconsciously. Not to the degree that Madonna was attempting to sell, but it is a thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019 02:07 PM (ZGrMX)

371 I agree with Ace - Epstein likely killed himself.

But the point of the meme isn't that exactly. It's the obvious dropping of all reporting by news outlets, a complete black holing of the entire le affarie de Epstein that is so troubling. He's dead. Story over. You fucking kidding me? Lying bastards!

Is Clinton a pedo? How about prince Andrew? How about George Stephonopolis?

Why'd Epstien get off the first time so easy? Where'd he get his money? What about the #metoo movement you shoved down everyone's fucking throat till you realized it implicated mostly Democrats?

So fuck them, Epstein didn't kill himself. I'll keep saying it till the whole fucking story comes out, and the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 21, 2019 02:07 PM (noE+3)

372 Billy Cannon, LSU's last Heisman winner, became a dentist after football and ended up going to prison for counterfeiting. After doing his time he took the dentist job at Angola penitentiary. He's credited with rebuilding the state corrections medical/dental system and was a hero to the convicts. Not many people know that.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 21, 2019 02:04 PM (CQ3Qb)

On his bills, Washington had perfect teeth.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2019 02:07 PM (/sgva)

373
My friend married a Chinese girl. Imagine a room fool of Chinese accents with that Bawston thing added on. It was interesting.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 21, 2019 02:05 PM (vN4+Q)

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"Interesting" = "Puddleglum is sadly now deaf, after ripping off his own ears and jamming them in a dispose-all."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 02:07 PM (AzW6q)

374 I know a couple where she's an Australian immigrant to Texas. Her accent is mostly that delightful Aussie, but occasionally a Texas drawl creeps in. It's confusing at times.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2019 02:02 PM (kw0bd)

I vocal mirror and I have no idea I'm doing it.

The problem is that I do it really really poorly (see re: doing it unintentionally) and thus people think I am making fun of their accents or speech patterns when I have no idea that I'm doing it at all.

This has caused problems.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 21, 2019 02:07 PM (mf5HN)

375 I'd appreciate a ruling on garrett saying "fuck your sister" being a polite insult.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 02:00 PM (7KEgI)
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I'd go with the John Mulaney bit on Law & Order - "mmmnnn I'll allow it - but watch yourself McCoy!"

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 21, 2019 02:07 PM (/ZYFC)

376 Doesn't being a prison guard involve hot young women in sun dresses washing cars?
Posted by: Northernlurker

How about a 6'3" queen who could shove a 16 ounce hand lotion bottle of paint thinner, for huffing, up his ass?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 02:08 PM (kDUUX)

377 Look.

The Southern 'Bless Your Heart' is the demure, neutered Fuck You.

Typically, employed ag'ns an 'other'.

Y'all cotton to referring to them as Yankees.

The Northern 'Fuck Your Sister' is the exact same thing.
Same degree of obfuscation as well.

We're BOTH trying to not actually say what we think. Polite company and all that.

So.
You give me a Bless Your Heart?
I give you a Fuck Your Sister.

You sneeze, I'll say gessundheit.

Just being polite is all.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 02:08 PM (gh1GI)

378
Particularly if it was a prison in West Virginia. You could examine each prisoners tooth and be out of there in one day.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 02:00 PM (ZLI7S)

i had to read it twice for context but then I laughed.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 21, 2019 02:09 PM (oY5lM)

379 I saw Tova Noel open for Iron Maiden in 1999 at the Garden in NYC.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at November 21, 2019 02:09 PM (377Zs)

380 "BUT if you go with Duck Duck Go, you "New Government Scheduling
elections" "Morales Supporters attempt to shut down food and fuel
shipments" and "Morales attempted to turn Bolivia into a Narco-State.

The tone in coverage is so vastly different that it's amazing. And this from supposedly "neutral" search engines.

Posted by: Tom Servo"

My wife is Bolivian who I met when I lived down there. Morales is a typical incompetent anti-American socialist who held a knife to the countries throat for years with chaos, blockades and strikes until he finally manged to get elected after his mobs forced a competent, pro-American president to resign and flee the country. He was starting his fourth term although limited by the constitution to two and finally run out of power and the country after the fraud became too obvious to ignore and the military abandoned him.

You can;t imagine the pleasure I get from this ironic end and only wish he received some of the bloodshed his mobs inflicted on others in his rise to power.

Posted by: Ripley at November 21, 2019 02:09 PM (MxEKc)

381 Oh and another thing - what about the gross negligence of the government, at all levels, at every fucking stage of this story? Isn't that worth a few front page headlines? Some investigation, So tut tutting? Their palpable relief that he's dead does them no credit.

Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (noE+3)

382 Piss off. I'm done.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (7KEgI)

383 >>Garrett, feel free to stick your ignorant-ass Yankee head in a blender and hit "puree."

And feel free to fuck your sister and my apologies to your father if it was his turn.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (gh1GI)

384 Is Clinton a pedo? How about prince Andrew? How about George Stephonopolis?

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IIRC George Mitchell, former Senator Majority leader and close Clinton confident is being sued by one of Epstein's girls right now.
This should be the biggest news item in the media right now. This guy dwarfs Weinstein in importance and wasn't assaulting adult women....

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2019 02:11 PM (WdocV)

385 so when the guard said she was "goofing off" she means 'tying a noose' right?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 21, 2019 02:12 PM (oY5lM)

386 At our house when we watch a British show we have to use the English subtitles.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 01:59 PM (m45I2)

I do this as well.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 21, 2019 02:12 PM (Z4rgH)

387 370 You don't grow an accent from living somewhere.

As someone who's lived for extended periods in areas of the US with distinct accents, I disagree. You do absorb elements of the accent around you subconsciously. Not to the degree that Madonna was attempting to sell, but it is a thing.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019 02:07 PM (ZGrMX)

I'm from King's County, New York, still have a lot of that accent. But "You all" and "All you all" are very useful phrases. As is, "Bless her heart".

Posted by: Fox2! at November 21, 2019 02:13 PM (qyH+l)

388 386
At our house when we watch a British show we have to use the English subtitles.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 01:59 PM (m45I2)

I do this as well.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 21, 2019 02:12 PM (Z4rgH)

yeppers.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (oY5lM)

389 Back in the day on the Sega Genesis, there was a line of sports games called Mutant League. There was Football and Hockey and they were said to be working on Basketball and others, tho I don't think they ever came out.

There was a play in football you could call where you snapped the ball and everyone attacked the Ref and beat him to a pulp.

I'm leaning toward wanting this to happen to Schiff during this hearing.

Posted by: Sponge at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (9gDA7)

390 Condolences to this guard's family after she is taken from them too soon in a botched mugging attempt next week.

Posted by: Jon Harrison at November 21, 2019 02:18 PM (jzLvH)

391 I really, really hope that if I am ever on trial that I'm not convicted based on opinions and supposition. Our country is dead.

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at November 21, 2019 02:21 PM (KSBDE)

392 EDKH

Posted by: andycanuck at November 21, 2019 02:24 PM (Dh1wo)

393 I am preemptively saddened by their impending suicides

Posted by: Bill Hedrick at November 21, 2019 02:25 PM (WHmC/)

394 "Once again, he's not ricin to the occasion."

Posted by: ShainS

But Castor hasn't said oil he's going to yet...

Posted by: Boswell at November 21, 2019 02:25 PM (32YRo)

395 I am pretty good with English accents.

A
weird irony of the show Frasier is that Daphne was supposed to be from
Glasgow. She spoke with a Glaswegian accent. Of course the actress
Jane Leeves was not from Glasgow and never sounded like a Glaswegian.
She took a lot of guff over that. I still don't understand why they made
her from Glasgow when the actress was not from there and could not do
the accent. What was the point in that? It is not like Americans would
know the difference from one town to the next.

Another
funny thing about Frasier is when Martin calls his umbrella a
Bumbershoot. Daphne responds that it is nice for an American to use her
native tongue. But Bumbershoot is not a British term at all, it is an
American term for an umbrella. Obviously none of the writers or actors
knew this bit of trivia.

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (n13/j)

396 Terry Bradshaw is from Louisiana and lives on a ranch along the Red River (can't remember what side of it). He sounds like a bumpkin but he's fairly bright. A head case but bright.

Posted by: Puddleglum

Went to LA Tech - was a legend there when I was living in North Louisiana...

Posted by: Boswell at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (32YRo)

397 "Noel did not kill herself."

Posted by: Titus at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (k6X1s)

398 If you believe that the federal government isn't capable of murdering people while in custody, Google Kenneth Trentadue. The circumstances surrounding his murder in 1995 are incredible, especially the high level efforts involved in covering it up and where the murder fits within a larger conspiracy.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (0CMdT)

399 #361, a friend of mine is Korean-American from Queens, Harvard both undergrad and grad school, then stayed in Boston for work after she finished the MBA.

She sounds like William F. Buckley three martinis in.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 21, 2019 03:15 PM (rGgyS)

400 Me, I went from the DC suburbs to Oxford Mississippi for seven years, and haven't lived much north of the Kentucky state line since. I sounded like an extra from "The Dukes of Hazzard" if I wasn't careful.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 21, 2019 03:16 PM (rGgyS)

401 Holy saint hitlery couldn't have been involved in Epsteins death, but even if she did, she wouldn't remember being one of Americas most famous amnesiacs. Just ask chubble. Saint bill, rapist molester traitor liar perjuror and a very long line of dead and mysterious deaths. America, Having much rejected God, these substitute saviors/saints will just have to do, eh ? Sodom and Gomorrah don't look so bad in comparison, eh?

Posted by: ron n. at November 21, 2019 03:57 PM (om5HK)

402 What suicide?

Posted by: WhoElse at November 22, 2019 04:01 PM (6XLoz)

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