Kevin D. Williamson Has Dispatch Envy

His latest Twitter-esque snarky lukewarm take at The Corner:

Elitist at Elitist University Wins Elitist Prize
By KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON
October 8, 2019 11:27 AM
That's how we're supposed to talk about this stuff now, right? Nothing good ever comes out of the Ivy League!

Oh I get it, this is "sarcasm," a very Elite form of humor that anyone can manage and which is ominpresent on the vulgar populist platform Twitter.

And this is Kevin D. Williamson telling us that he considers himself a member of "The Elite," even if no one else agrees that his white-trash one-trick-pony fatass is Elite.

From the Wall Street Journal:

The Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to three scientists for work advancing understanding of Earth's place in the cosmos--from the history of the universe since the Big Bang to the first discovery of a planet outside our solar system.
Canadian-American James Peebles of Princeton University was honored "for theoretical discoveries in physical cosmology," with the other half of the award shared by Swiss scientists Michel Mayor and Didier Queloz "for the discovery of an exoplanet orbiting a solar-type star," said the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, which awards the prize.

Note that Kevin D. Williamson is playing the game the "I F***ing Love Science" crowd does -- by merely mentioning science, he believes himself to be self-identifying as a scientist.

But notice how very vague he is in this post. The first half of the prize was awarded to a man for "for theoretical discoveries in physical cosmology" -- well, which ones, precisely, Kevin?

You don't know?

You didn't even bother to read a more substantial article to find out?

No, of course you didn't. The best part of Twitter Intellectual Signalling is the same best part of Twitter Virtue Signalling -- it requires no work whatsoever. Not even reading beyond the first two paragraphs of a blurb. You get to pretend to be a scientist just by saying I Fucking Love Science.

Goodness, look at that: a couple of dodgy Europeans and a @#$%&! immigrant at Princeton!

Oh right because conservatives are racists and hate foreigners. I get it.

They probably don’t even buy into "intelligent design," either.

Oh right because conservatives are benighted religious crazies. I get it.

Harrumph, etc.

Go fuck yourself, you bloated hugely-fat low-rent white-trash poser.

And how does this fat pasty couch-potato suggest we in the Non-Elite elevate ourselves to his elite intellectual level?

By watching more TV.

No, seriously. I often lie to you, but I'm not lying about this.

Conservatives Should Watch More Television
By KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON
September 4, 2019 2:23 PM
Specifically, more drama and comedy (and less cable news)
The conservative movement in the United States, which identifies itself too closely with the Republican party, is at a low cultural ebb (it is certainly fashionable to be anti-Trump), but American popular culture for the past 20 years nonetheless has been suffused with deeply conservative sentiment -- even though conservatives often fail to understand or appreciate it. We should watch less cable news and more drama and comedy.

It may be a matter of sloganeering. The Republican party, in its current goofball-nationalist manifestation, has a four-word slogan: "Make America Great Again!" But conservatives ought instead to appreciate the three most conservative words ever spoken on the vast stage that is HBO: "Winter is coming."
...
The same phenomenon is observable all over our popular culture: Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy reimagining Batman as a kind of esoteric Straussian who (in a series beginning just a few years after 9/11) countenances torture and illegal extradition methods to protect a public that must be kept in the dark about how hard things get done, who faces off against an Eastern terrorist cult targeting New York City, an amped-up version of Occupy Wall Street, and, most famously and perhaps most immediately relevant, an unhappy loser who shows that he can shut down a city with "a couple of bullets." Or consider Skyfall, with its Royal Doulton bulldog draped in the Union Jack, its conservative organizing principles ("Sometimes the old ways are the best") and dramatic retreat to the family homestead, its unabashed invocation of "patriotism" and "love of country."

He does know that the whole plot of Skyfall was set in motion by M cynically betraying the former agent? Who was himself serving patriotically, until his government viciously betrayed him?

Not... not super-duper patriotic, really. More of a very superficial critique of patriotism and how patriotism (or any -ism) makes bastards of us all.

The Walking Dead ends up being an extended exploration of Mancur Olson's "stationary bandit" and the tensions between democracy, the rule of law, and the practical necessities of physical security -- with an ode to property rights and free trade thrown into the bargain.

This fat fuck sure can run his mouth real purty when he's making up excuses as to how watching 30 hours of TV per week is actually just a type of Continuing Education, huh?

Ah well: Every addict spends a lot of mind-hours justifying his addiction.

Breaking Bad was a reimagining of The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, a meditation on the seduction of evil, and it ends with the most forthright of confessions: "I did it for me. I did it because I liked it."

You know what else really sells the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? The book Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

But reading iz hard.

If a conservative social critic had tried to write a series about how to be an unhappy young woman, the result would have been something quite like Girls, or maybe Fleabag. The theme of Stranger Things is not so much "Winter is coming" but "Winter is already here, and always has been, if you know how to look."

Are their any shows this fat wife-sharer doesn't watch religiously?

And now, having gushed about his enthusiasm for current TV, let Kevin D. Williamson strum the mystic chords of memory and start talking up forty year old TV shows.

For comparison, think about the most popular and influential television shows of the middle 1970s to middle 1980s. There was one big Vietnam hangover (M*A*S*H) and a petroleum-derived soap opera (Dallas), but as the divorce epidemic of those years kicked into full swing, the tube was dominated by sentimental depictions of family life (Happy Days, Little House on the Prairie, The Waltons) and quietly terrified comedies about the awkwardness of single life (Laverne and Shirley, Three's Company), though divorce itself was rarely addressed directly: The eponymous heroine of Alice was a widow, as was Mrs. Garrett on Diff’rent Strokes and The Facts of Life; her sometime employer, Mr. Drummond, was a widower. Captain Stubing of The Love Boat was one of the relatively few prominent divorced characters. Other sexual and familial anxieties were alluded too at safe comedic arm’s length in Bosom Buddies and Three's Company.

Watch Three's Company so you can get educated about changing social mores!!!

The immediate postwar years, with the optimism of ascendance tempered by memories of war’s horrors and the privations of the Great Depression, were dominated by a few return-to-normalcy family shows (Father Knows Best, Ozzie and Harriet), a remarkable profusion of westerns, and variety programs hosted by the likes of Ed Sullivan, Jack Benny, and Milton Berle. Perry Como (of Chesterfield Supper Club) and The Lone Ranger made the leap from radio to television.

Now he's just leafing through his extensive collection of vintage TV Guides.

I can't quote the whole thing, but it's all this bad, and it's all entirely pointless. This "elite intellectual" just wants to tell you that he really, really, really, really loves watchin' TV and not satisfyin' women.

But he can't be bothered to discover what the Nobel Prize for Physics was awarded for. He wants us to know he cares very much about this, but can't be fussed about actually caring about it much.

Oh well-- maybe there'll be a special episode of Dancing With the Stars tonight that explains it. A Dance Tribute to Cosmology, maybe.

By the way, I'm looking that up myself. So far, no one in the media seems to understand what that part of the prize was actually for. Big shock.

I think it's probably about the large scale structure of the universe, and how that was determined by the conditions present shortly after the Big Bang. Specifically, how ultrasmall quantum fluctuations in the "hot dense state" (hey, that's from the Big Bang Theory theme song, so elite intellectual Kevin Williamson might really dig this) of primordial stuff resulted, after a period of cosmic inflation in which spacetime expanded rapidly, in the distribution of clusters of matter -- in huge clusters of of galaxies connected by webs, "filaments," of gas -- and large voids of near-nothingness in between.

I'll let you know when an article gets beyond telling me it's "about space or something."

The other half of the prize is easily understood -- it went to two people who identified the first exoplanet, the first planet detected outside our solar system.

Conservative Elite Intellectualizm

Mistress, may I watch "The Fall Guy" while you're on your "date" with Lance?

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:10 PM

Comments

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1 Wut?

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 08, 2019 02:12 PM (qC1Sy)

2 SPONGE!

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 08, 2019 02:12 PM (qC1Sy)

3 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:13 PM (q80AH)

4 Who?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:13 PM (jYnPD)

5 Is the Kevin Williamson who basically said 'die, all you useless mid-west white trash'?

Posted by: IC at October 08, 2019 02:13 PM (a0IVu)

6 And, crap! I read the content first. I coulda been a contenda.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:14 PM (jYnPD)

7 I watch Korean TV shows because American TV sucks so hard. #BadConservative

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 02:14 PM (O7MnT)

8 Hunter > The Fall Guy

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2019 02:14 PM (4VGhz)

9 I watch tv for entertainment value. Good acting, decent story, we're good.

Anyone who thinks the crap on tv is educational is full of crap.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 08, 2019 02:14 PM (qC1Sy)

10 Kevin loves everything, he loves science, TV and seeing Mistress "dating" Lance.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 08, 2019 02:15 PM (Mr80f)

11 This Kevin dude has been a fag for a long while. It suits him.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: nip at October 08, 2019 02:15 PM (Izot6)

12 in other proto-astronomical news, the university of Mainz did another experiment that constrains dark matter. that is, they didn't find any in yet another parameter space.

dark matter is getting annoying.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 08, 2019 02:15 PM (WF3jy)

13 Top 500!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2019 02:15 PM (0t+fn)

14 Some of the dumbest people I know are sporting Ivy League degrees.

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2019 02:15 PM (4VGhz)

15 13 Top 500!
Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2019 02:15 PM (0t+fn)

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Barely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:16 PM (q80AH)

16 That sounds like a lot of words to say that "Conservatives aren't interested enough in the things I want to talk about."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:16 PM (KUaJL)

17 I'd like to see someone ask Kevin D. Williamson to explain how a Toilet works.

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2019 02:16 PM (4VGhz)

18 16 That sounds like a lot of words to say that "Conservatives aren't interested enough in the things I want to talk about."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:16 PM (KUaJL)

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*nudges*

Wanna talk about movies?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:16 PM (q80AH)

19 T fvcking V.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 08, 2019 02:17 PM (aS1PU)

20 Wow.. i read the content and took my time.. top 25?

Posted by: Blanco at October 08, 2019 02:17 PM (BZQgK)

21 People use that word, "Elite" quite a bit lately. I don't think it means what they think it means.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 08, 2019 02:17 PM (iAwUQ)

22 17
I'd like to see someone ask Kevin D. Williamson to explain how a Toilet works.

Posted by: garrett

To be fair, sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't work.

Posted by: Jonah at October 08, 2019 02:17 PM (T6t7i)

23 17 I'd like to see someone ask Kevin D. Williamson to explain how a Toilet works.
Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2019 02:16 PM (4VGhz)

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"Alright you racist rube of an idiot, this isn't magical. It's called #SCIENCE! Mechanics! Now let me learn you!"

*looks up Youtube video on plumbing*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:17 PM (q80AH)

24 I loved "Three's Company" - Three Stooges level physical comedy + enough babes to fill a college football stadium

Posted by: josephistan at October 08, 2019 02:17 PM (Izzlo)

25 Later, Kevin will give a critical assessment of his wife's box wine and an analysis of the subtext in Married...with Children.

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at October 08, 2019 02:17 PM (RD7QR)

26 When you find yourself snarkily defending "elitism" against the general public with contempt toward them... that's not a good place to find yourself.

Humility and self awareness go a lot further than sneering condescension and arrogance.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:17 PM (KZzsI)

27 IC, specifically Landwaster said that about majority white small towns. the people can live , they just have to rent a u haul and move to Denver. or wherever. Callous, arrogant, despicable son of a b****.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 08, 2019 02:17 PM (WF3jy)

28 Mr. Kill-the-Working-Class sure uses a whole lot of words to say nothing much.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:17 PM (u//oP)

29 >>>>> The conservative movement in the United States, which identifies itself too closely with the Republican party,

Hmm I swear I just read something similar. Why it's almost as if they all decided on a talking point.

And again like the three cucks of the dispatch I imagine KW regularly pulled the "but the democrats are worse" in demanding that we vote for a lib republican.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 08, 2019 02:18 PM (m9+OU)

30 Why did you have to bring poor Lee Majors into this?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:18 PM (ycWCI)

31 Someone mentioned M*A*S*H in something?

That's gotta be good reading!

Posted by: mr wolf at October 08, 2019 02:18 PM (Mxv9c)

32 Kevin, on the other hand, loves loves loves immigrants. Especially Indian ones that fuck his wife while he's out of town.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:18 PM (oZ6kz)

33 Hunter > The Fall Guy
*******
I am watching Hunter on Tubi a channel I get with Xfinity & have fallen in love with Stepfanie Kramer all over again. Just like the mid 80's

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 08, 2019 02:18 PM (BqBId)

34 "like to see someone ask Kevin D. Williamson to explain how a Toilet works"

I volunteer to show him.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 08, 2019 02:19 PM (WF3jy)

35 >>Not even reading beyond the first two paragraphs

First two?

I'm lucky to get to the end of the Headline.

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2019 02:19 PM (4VGhz)

36 >>>24 I loved "Three's Company" - Three Stooges level physical comedy + enough babes to fill a college football stadium

I don't mind entertainment, but... he's telling us to watch tv as some kind of education.

come the fuck on.

This is an addict justifying his addiction.

Posted by: ace at October 08, 2019 02:19 PM (PbpT7)

37 24 I loved "Three's Company" - Three Stooges level physical comedy + enough babes to fill a college football stadium

Priscilla Barnes, le sigh.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:19 PM (u//oP)

38 Just for the record, it is demonstrably true that watching television lowers IQ. Especially the reality crap that began broadcasting when the real writers went on strike a couple of decades ago.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 08, 2019 02:19 PM (YslsA)

39 Thank you, Ace, for digesting this uninteresting, elitist, crap-spew, so that we don't have to.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:19 PM (jYnPD)

40 "But reading iz hard."

Moar hard for some...like K.D.W.

"Winter is coming."
And you know who said that, Kevin? Ned Stark, played by WHO, Kevin? Sean Bean, Kevin. Who plays characters who die in everything he's ever been in. Exegete that, Kevin.

Posted by: Flyover at October 08, 2019 02:19 PM (B5K06)

41 Merlin Olsen > Mancur Olsen

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 08, 2019 02:20 PM (DMUuz)

42
Because a professor at Johns Hopkins won the Nobel Prize in Physics, it's perfectly all right for coked-up children of Washington politicians to hoover up cash from dodgy foreign companies. No difference between the two, none at all.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2019 02:20 PM (7rVsF)

43 36
I don't mind entertainment, but... he's telling us to watch tv as some kind of education.

come the fuck on.

This is an addict justifying his addiction.
Posted by: ace at October 08, 2019 02:19 PM (PbpT7)

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Watching TV is an education in...TV.

If you want to learn about philosophy you...read philosophy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:20 PM (q80AH)

44 16
That sounds like a lot of words to say that "Conservatives aren't interested enough in the things I want to talk about."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:16 PM (KUaJL)

Let's get the root of this. What it really means is, "I'm unhappy because not enough people will actually PAY to read my drivel. So when the liberal billionaires get tired of keeping yet another money bleeding platform afloat, I'll be out of a job."

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 08, 2019 02:20 PM (iAwUQ)

45 >>> Just for the record, it is demonstrably true that watching television lowers IQ.

Wait till they get a load of ME.

Posted by: Social Media Combined With Always-Online Phones at October 08, 2019 02:20 PM (PbpT7)

46 42
Because a professor at Johns Hopkins won the Nobel Prize in Physics, it's perfectly all right for coked-up children of Washington politicians to hoover up cash from dodgy foreign companies. No difference between the two, none at all.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2019 02:20 PM (7rVsF)

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Don't forget universities squashing conservative voices and elevating literal crazy people to places of power.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:20 PM (q80AH)

47 I love fucking Kevin D. Williamson

Posted by: Science at October 08, 2019 02:20 PM (cD09y)

48 It's pick on dumbass writers day!

Posted by: Acme Clusters at October 08, 2019 02:20 PM (5NMZN)

49 I was watching some Science Channel last night, and according to cosmologists (and Mike Rowe) the Big Bang was neither big nor, err, bangy.

Because it just isn't what wee thought it was. It was not a huge explosion. Because the Universe doesn't look like the remnants of an explosion. It's way too homogenous for that.

You should be able to identify a point everything is exploding away from. Except it doesn't. It's like we had nothing - well, not quite nothing, an infinitesimally small point where everything was - and then it all suddenly was infinitely big. And everthing is just flying apart from each other. Not from a single point.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (9VeU0)

50 38
Just for the record, it is demonstrably true that watching television lowers IQ.

Not so. I watch PBS.**sniffs**

Posted by: Wine Mom and Soi Boy at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (T6t7i)

51
Jonah G is gonna have a tough time stealing Teh Ewok's post about Kevin Fatso.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (eXA4G)

52 >>I loved "Three's Company"

"Did you get me that Mexican Pot, Jack?"

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (4VGhz)

53 "The grapes were probably sour" claimed the fox.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (YslsA)

54 Breaking Bad was a reimagining of The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Wrong. It was a reimagining of Jesus vs. Satan. Jesse-Jesus-Jesu. Mr. WHITE. How much clearer does it need to be?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (u//oP)

55 Dramas and sitcoms are not a reflection of real people or real life.

They are a reflection of what city-dwelling scriptwriters think will hold our attention.

I say this every damn day and most people stare at me blankly like cows.

Posted by: West at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (aN0bi)

56 He got himself all gussied-up to join the elite and is now all butt-hurt that the elite isn't getting the respect that it once had, respect he scraped and groveled to be able to bask in.

That can really make a man all cranky-like.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - It Is Never Time to Eat The Babies at The Outrage Outlet! at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (hLRSq)

57 blaster, can I buy some pot from you?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (WF3jy)

58 Williamson's ramblings are like an art major explaining the deep meaning of a Rothko or Pollock.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (NqZ29)

59
$50 says Kevin Williamson can't solve a quadratic equation.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (7rVsF)

60 36
>>>24 I loved "Three's Company" - Three Stooges level physical comedy + enough babes to fill a college football stadium

I don't mind entertainment, but... he's telling us to watch tv as some kind of education.

come the fuck on.

This is an addict justifying his addiction.

Posted by: ace at October 08, 2019 02:19 PM (PbpT7)

I watched history channel a lot, until they went all Ice Road Trucker Mine Wives. Writers got lazy, and TV production companies got cheap.

Youtube has much better stuff, be it original content, or be it any of 1000's of documentaries on-demand.

TV can be educational. But not stuff on cable and the networks, largely speaking.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (jYnPD)

61 Watching TV is an education in...TV.

If you want to learn about philosophy you...read philosophy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:20 PM (q80AH)

But watching TV makes me feel smart.

Reading philosophy makes me feel dumb because I see the exact thought I had that I thought was so novel and unique had already been completely and thoroughly debunked by people 500 years ago (if I'm lucky) and around 2000 years ago (if I'm not).

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

62 51
Jonah G is gonna have a tough time stealing Teh Ewok's post about Kevin Fatso.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (eXA4G)

He'll just make it about one of his dogs.

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (RD7QR)

63 It's not Buck Rogers, but the boxes make me think of Erin Gray.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (axyOa)

64 Trudeau might have been fired from a teaching gig for sleeping with a 17yo.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (CQ3Qb)

65 61 But watching TV makes me feel smart.

Reading philosophy makes me feel dumb because I see the exact thought I had that I thought was so novel and unique had already been completely and thoroughly debunked by people 500 years ago (if I'm lucky) and around 2000 years ago (if I'm not).
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

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Unrelated:

I wonder why colleges don't teach the classics to most students anymore...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (q80AH)

66 We hates him.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (xfb67)

67 >>You should be able to identify a point everything is exploding away from. Except it doesn't. It's like we had nothing - well, not quite nothing, an infinitesimally small point where everything was - and then it all suddenly was infinitely big. And everthing is just flying apart from each other. Not from a single point.

Almost like someone said 'let there be light' and voila. They hate when you say that.

Posted by: Science at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (cD09y)

68 I miss when faggoty psuedo-elite adipose mediocrities like Kevin at least used to pretend to like high culture like opera and Renaissance art and the symphony orchestra. Not just "Man I learn so much from MUH SHOWSSSS"

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (oZ6kz)

69

Ridicule is your paintbrush and you aren't Jack the Dripper.

You are Rembrandt.

Another embarrassingly dumb "article" by Williamson. His next one will be a numbered list of somethings.

Posted by: simplemind at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (oXtxl)

70 Erin Gray. Yes please.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (9VeU0)

71 You would think Kevin Wiliamson would have enough humility to admit he was wrong about Trump, a la Glenn Beck. But no, he's stil lso butthurt he is going to work to keep those borders open!

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (ujg0T)

72 Dramas and sitcoms are not a reflection of real people or real life.

They are a reflection of what city-dwelling scriptwriters think will hold our attention.

I say this every damn day and most people stare at me blankly like cows.
Posted by: West

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Or "reality" shows for that matter.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (Y4EXg)

73 Kevin Williamson deserves to be shackled to a chain gang digging a canal. His intellect is superficial but his contempt and biases run very deep.

This is the guy who pathologized his own history as a poor white man and hates his entire early life experience. He despises the poor - especially the rural poor - because he carries their taint within himself. Yet one activity that is highly correlated with poorer groups - watching excessive television - is one for which he is strongly advocating. And he is also blindered on the same topic. Watch television and get leftist indoctrination most of the time. Modern TV shows look great but there is little substance.

Much like Williamson, actually - other than the "looks great" part.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (I2dne)

74
Hey, Kev! What's the difference between a pnictogen and a chalcogen?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (7rVsF)

75 Are those guys still digging for the Templar treasure on Oak Island?

Posted by: Acme Clusters at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (5NMZN)

76 7
I watch Korean TV shows because American TV sucks so hard. #BadConservative

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 02:14 PM (O7MnT)

This is what my parents do, too. They're both in their mid-70s and constantly have to call me to figure out how to work the TV remote, but by God, they know how to work that Viki app!

Mr MWR and I basically subsist on anime, with a little Walking Dead and Stranger Things. Everything else is crap.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (rP4OC)

77 More on Williamson's level would be Cosmology Performance Art.

Because it's educational. you ignorant cobs.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (VpIIl)

78 How is this different from the journalistic output of that HuffPost editor with a PhD in Romantic Comedies?

I am so very tired of this trend of literary criticism of things like tv shows and vampire novels. Sometimes a stupid tv show is just a stupid tv show.

However, if we're going to play this game, do these shows reflect cultural trends or are they being used to change them? Might your hearty endorsement of these message-heavy Hollywood indoctrination vehicles be a faux sophisticated way of you telling us to shut up and consume the progressive propaganda, serfs?!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (bDqIh)

79 Mine Wives? Man, it has been a long time since I cut the cable. I know Ice Road Truckers but Mine Wives?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (u//oP)

80 Wait, a video game character won a Nobel Prize? Little known fact: Michel Mayor was digitized as a character into the video game EVE Online.

And I guess this now means I've attended a lecture by a Nobel Prize winner. I was at a video game convention Prof. Mayor spoke at. Does this make me elite?

Posted by: Noizy at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (1Id6O)

81 Replace "Big Bang" with "Inflation". Carry on until instructed otherwise.

Or until "Big Crunch" and/or "Deflation".

Like Windows updates, this might take a while.

Posted by: klaftern at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (RuIsu)

82 Fuck you Ace. You try coming up with things to write about every day.

Posted by: Kevin Williamson at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (IAOr/)

83 54 Breaking Bad was a reimagining of The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Wrong. It was a reimagining of Jesus vs. Satan. Jesse-Jesus-Jesu. Mr. WHITE. How much clearer does it need to be?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (u//oP)

I thought it was just Faust retold?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (ujg0T)

84 I suspect, just from what little I've been able to glean online, that Mr. Peebles won the Nobel for his body of work in the field of cosmology.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (rP4OC)

85 64 Trudeau might have been fired from a teaching gig for sleeping with a 17yo.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (CQ3Qb)

So how is Elizabeth Warren involved in this?

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (RD7QR)

86 I've seen Peebles referenced many times. Enough to recognize his affiliation and that he's an astronomer. But I have no memory of what he's known for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Peebles

Born in Winnipeg ... aka Winterpeg

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (vWMNq)

87 "Should We Be Eating Smurfs?"

Posted by: Kevin D Williamson at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (4VGhz)

88 63 It's not Buck Rogers, but the boxes make me think of Erin Gray.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (axyOa)

I got a hug from her at a comic con a few years ago. Please make sure that goes on my tombstone

Posted by: josephistan at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (Izzlo)

89 Reading philosophy makes me feel dumb because I see
the exact thought I had that I thought was so novel and unique had
already been completely and thoroughly debunked by people 500 years ago
(if I'm lucky) and around 2000 years ago (if I'm not).

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

Philosophy = Somebody a lot smarter than you already thought this through a long time ago.There. Hopefully I've just saved some high school kid 4 years and $250,000.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (iAwUQ)

90 78 How is this different from the journalistic output of that HuffPost editor with a PhD in Romantic Comedies?

I am so very tired of this trend of literary criticism of things like tv shows and vampire novels. Sometimes a stupid tv show is just a stupid tv show.

However, if we're going to play this game, do these shows reflect cultural trends or are they being used to change them? Might your hearty endorsement of these message-heavy Hollywood indoctrination vehicles be a faux sophisticated way of you telling us to shut up and consume the progressive propaganda, serfs?!
Posted by: Lizzy at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (bDqIh)

===========

I love the example they throw around about Moby Dick.

Moby Dick wasn't appreciated in its time, therefore you aren't allowed to say that anything new can't be studied in collegiate literature courses.

It's such a stupid argument.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (q80AH)

91 I learned all I needed to know about history from watching Ancient Aliens.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (xfb67)

92 On that whole elitist thing. I was staying in a hotel in Tennessee last week and the TV in the breakfast room was tuned to Russia Today (nice break from the usual CNN). Watching it I saw the "elitist" term thrown around quite a bit. Adam Schiff was one of the targets (apparently he has his own Ukraine problem). Not sure what this means, if anything, but I find it interesting that all of a sudden I seem to see it everywhere.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (kUmUV)

93 I thought it was just Faust retold?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (ujg0T)

Oooh-that works too!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (u//oP)

94 $50 says Kevin Williamson can't solve a quadratic equation.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (7rVsF)

call that and raise you $50 that Williamson doesn't even know what a quadratic equation is, other than "something those math guys do".

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (Kpl3J)

95 50 38
Just for the record, it is demonstrably true that watching television lowers IQ.

Not so. I watch PBS.**sniffs**
Posted by: Wine Mom and Soi Boy at October 08, 2019 02:21 PM (T6t7i)

Is that pinky up? Well, is it!?!

Posted by: Flyover at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (B5K06)

96 Winter is coming. I think I'll go ride my Vespa..

Posted by: Fritz at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (2Mnv1)

97 $50 says Kevin Williamson can't solve a quadratic equation.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM

****

I doubt he can balance his check book.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (axyOa)

98 That Nobel money belongs to Greta, you egghead fucks.

HOW DARE YOU

Posted by: Lilly Von Schtoop at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (6MoD2)

99 86 But I have no memory of what he's known for.

Big bang. So a fellow moron.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (vWMNq)

100 79
Mine Wives? Man, it has been a long time since I cut the cable. I know Ice Road Truckers but Mine Wives?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (u//oP)

It was hyperbowl. There was a particular time in which there was a palpable decision to stop airing actual history and start with all the reality crap. It is unwatchable.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (jYnPD)

101 Uhhh...

Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (WkmoA)

102 I don't watch much TV anymore. Occasionally I'll watch something "they" deem wonderful just to see for myself. Made it through 1 1/2 episodes of Fleabag before going back to sports.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (Xvo1a)

103 34 "like to see someone ask Kevin D. Williamson to explain how a Toilet works"

I volunteer to show him.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 08, 2019 02:19 PM (WF3jy)
------------

Must See TV!

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (qC1Sy)

104 70
Erin Gray. Yes please.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (9VeU0)

I was delighted to see her pop up in "The Guild."

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (iAwUQ)

105
58 Williamson's ramblings are like an art major explaining the deep meaning of a Rothko or Pollock.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (NqZ29)

I call this work "The Left-Over Cans of Paint in My Late Grandfather's Garage."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - It Is Never Time to Eat The Babies at The Outrage Outlet! at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (hLRSq)

106 I thought elites turned their noses up at people who own TVs much less watch it for more than 30 minutes a week.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (NqZ29)

107 still nothing about Trudeau on Matt's news aggregator . the one which got famous for posting about leaders porking their charges.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (WF3jy)

108 Yet one activity that is highly correlated with poorer groups - watching excessive television - is one for which he is strongly advocating

--

He will probably next begin to advocate for larger helpings of grits and ham hocks.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (YslsA)

109 Almost like someone said 'let there be light' and voila. They hate when you say that.
Posted by: Science at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (cD09y)

Yeah.

A NYT bestselling book on cosmology is titled "A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing"

Believing THAT is science.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (9VeU0)

110 87 "Should We Be Eating Smurfs?"
Posted by: Kevin D Williamson at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (4VGhz)

A Smurf is not a sandwich - FIGHT MY COUCH!

Posted by: Jonah G at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (Izzlo)

111 $50 says Kevin Williamson can't solve a quadratic equation.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (7rVsF)

call that and raise you $50 that Williamson doesn't even know what a quadratic equation is, other than "something those math guys do".
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (Kpl3J)

Another $50 says he picks his nose and eats it.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (aS1PU)

112 Damn it! I just thought of a good name for Obama and it's way too late.

Commie Darko.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (xfb67)

113 I got a hug from her at a comic con a few years ago. Please make sure that goes on my tombstone

Posted by: josephistan at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM

Ahhh...does Jeri Ryan go to those? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (axyOa)

114 Mine Wives? Man, it has been a long time since I cut the cable. I know Ice Road Truckers but Mine Wives?
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (u//oP)
+++++++++++
What state lets you marry a mine?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (I2dne)

115 HOW DARE YOU

From now on, this must always be said in a death metal growl.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (u//oP)

116 Wow.. i read the content and took my time.. top 25?

Posted by: Blanco
>>
You probably didn't have to sound out the words.

Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (WkmoA)

117 Non-Binary Jonah is making his debut on Fox as the Editor of The Dipshit or whatever it's called.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (ZLI7S)

118 I just graph the use of cocaine and other drugs in the entertainment industry and the unwatchability of their output.

Looks like an upright hockey stick Hyperexponential.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (e1mEI)

119 91
I learned all I needed to know about history from watching Ancient Aliens.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 08, 2019 02:25 PM (xfb67)

I'm not saying it's aliens. But it's aliens.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (iAwUQ)

120 Die Hard is a christmas movie.

Posted by: Cucks talking about TV on Twitter yet again at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (PbpT7)

121 The Fall Guy. Heather Thomas was smokin' hot.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (VFal0)

122 So how is Elizabeth Warren involved in this?

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (RD7QR)

Rumor is the lawyers filed an injunction that blocked the Globe and Mail from putting out their entire Saturday edition.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (CQ3Qb)

123 >100

>He does know that the whole plot of Skyfall was set in motion by M cynically betraying the former agent?
Speaking of Skyfall, the new 1917 trailer looks pretty good, although a thinly-veiled rehash of the plot of Saving Private Ryan, set in WWI.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (jYnPD)

124 58 Williamson's ramblings are like an art major explaining the deep meaning of a Rothko or Pollock.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (NqZ29)

[giggles]
Exactly.

Posted by: Flyover at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (B5K06)

125 Laverne & Shirley and Three's Company were a lot of things, but "quietly terrified" was not one of them.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (NFEMn)

126 102 I don't watch much TV anymore. Occasionally I'll watch something "they" deem wonderful just to see for myself. Made it through 1 1/2 episodes of Fleabag before going back to sports.
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (Xvo1a)

==========

I think most TV just isn't very good.

Very few people seem to know how to tackle the format of 8-24 hour long episodes to tell a cohesive story. I prefer the purely episodic things like Seinfeld.

But when you try to tell a story over 10 hours, you have to have a lot of story to justify and fill that time.

Most television seems content to fill half of that time with unrelated side stories that don't actually feed the central story. They're flabby.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (q80AH)

127 Wait until Kevin sees the Star Trek series, and then writes an essay saying he has seen proof that intersteller travel is real and easily accomplished. Just watch out for the tribbles.

Posted by: Hillary ==> hotter and sweatier than a hard-ridden horse at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (LISuA)

128 Bazillinth bitches!!!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (LLzS4)

129 Later, Kevin will give a critical assessment of his wife's box, wine and an analysis of the subtext in Married...with Children.
>>Fixed.

Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (WkmoA)

130 >>>>Erin Gray. Yes please.

She was the very best thing about Buck Rogers. Those skin tight jump suits. Oof.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (IAOr/)

131 115 HOW DARE YOU

From now on, this must always be said in a death metal growl.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (u//oP)

I just hear it that way. And see a scowl in my mind's eye. It's a nice new meme.

Posted by: Roy at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (cD09y)

132 30 Why did you have to bring poor Lee Majors into this?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:18 PM (ycWCI)

The last time I saw Lee Majors he was in a live action version of "Ben 10" as Grandpa Max Tennyson.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (ujg0T)

133 $50 says Kevin Williamson can't solve a quadratic equation."

He's a square...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (yshTX)

134 Almost like someone said 'let there be light' and voila. They hate when you say that.
Posted by: Science at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (cD09y)

Because they hate Who said that.

Posted by: Flyover at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (B5K06)

135 Someone mentioned M*A*S*H in something?

M*A*S*H was the epitome of woke 70's progressivism. It featured a protagonist who was a serial sexual predator, another character using transgenderism as an expression of mental illness, and had a black character named Spear-Chucker.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (O7MnT)

136 My guilty pleasure is horror stories and absurd comedy on TV. University of Kentucky football really hits the spot.

Posted by: Hope Springs Eternal at October 08, 2019 02:29 PM (DQRtz)

137 Smurfs ain't groceries.

Posted by: klaftern at October 08, 2019 02:29 PM (RuIsu)

138 Most TV today and recently is nihilistic, dark, crude, and irredeemable. The whole Conservative Inc. bit of look at these conservative parts is simply an excuse for them to be able to discuss the shows without embarrassing themselves.

Posted by: WOPR at October 08, 2019 02:29 PM (wN3lD)

139 123 >100

>He does know that the whole plot of Skyfall was set in motion by M cynically betraying the former agent?
Speaking of Skyfall, the new 1917 trailer looks pretty good, although a thinly-veiled rehash of the plot of Saving Private Ryan, set in WWI.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM (jYnPD)

=========

Meh. There are only a handful of plots.

I actually see it as closer to Dunkirk in its attempt to show all sides of a concentrated conflict in one film.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:29 PM (q80AH)

140 64 Trudeau might have been fired from a teaching gig for sleeping with a 17yo.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (CQ3Qb)

He should have taken Macron's advice and married her. Oh woops, wrong way.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:29 PM (ujg0T)

141 I don't mind entertainment, but... he's telling us to watch tv as some kind of education.

Yeah he's elevating watching trash TV as some kind of artistic endeavor. Its good to keep track of popular culture at least at some level so you know what the heck people are talking about (if you want to have any connection or influence publicly, at least) but lets not pretend its some kind of higher calling or education.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (KZzsI)

142 So how is Elizabeth Warren involved in this?

I just read a story that Hillary has a full crew of "aides" investigating and digging dirt up on the main Dems running for Pres... She's taking them down one by one so she can come in to save the day.. I laughed till I thought about it... Stuff has been coming out about Warren and Biden....

Posted by: It's me donna at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (O2RFr)

143 114 Mine Wives? Man, it has been a long time since I cut the cable. I know Ice Road Truckers but Mine Wives?
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:24 PM (u//oP)
+++++++++++
What state lets you marry a mine?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

----

I initially read this as "Mime Wives".

How annoying would that be. Wowsers.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (Y4EXg)

144 Very few people seem to know how to tackle the format of 8-24 hour long episodes to tell a cohesive story. I prefer the purely episodic things like Seinfeld.

But when you try to tell a story over 10 hours, you have to have a lot of story to justify and fill that time.

Most television seems content to fill half of that time with unrelated side stories that don't actually feed the central story. They're flabby.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:28 PM (q80AH)
+++++++++++++
Anthology series FTW. The Twilight Zone is tops. Black Mirror was pretty good, too. Hell, even Star Trek did pretty well - not an anthology series but still decided episodic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (I2dne)

145 There are only a handful of plots.

----
Kill or be killed?

Posted by: Acme Clusters at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (5NMZN)

146 I'll usually find shows I like through recommendations and then binge-watch the few that I like. But there are very few network comedies or dramas I have any interest in.

Last Man Standing is pretty good. After listening to my brother tell me I'd like it for years, I finally started binging through it.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (u//oP)

147 From "A Beautiful Mind" Kevin knows how Nobel prize winners get treated at "Prospect House", the Faculty Club. Kevin has learned a lot on TV.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (LISuA)

148 https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2019/summary/

The Nobel Prize in Physics 2019 was awarded "for contributions to our
understanding of the evolution of the universe and Earth's place in the
cosmos" with one half to James Peebles "for theoretical discoveries in
physical cosmology", the other half jointly to Michel Mayor and Didier
Queloz "for the discovery of an exoplanet orbiting a solar-type star."

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (vWMNq)

149 I fukkin hated MASH. Left wing propaganda wall to fukkin wall. Alan Alda the prototype soiboy.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (LLzS4)

150 The Fall Guy. Heather Thomas was smokin' hot.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 08, 2019 02:27 PM

Joey Heatherton > Heather Thomas

Posted by: Diogenes at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (axyOa)

151 118 I just graph the use of cocaine and other drugs in the entertainment industry and the unwatchability of their output.

You saw the Star Wars Christmas Special too?

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (9VeU0)

152 144 Anthology series FTW. The Twilight Zone is tops. Black Mirror was pretty good, too. Hell, even Star Trek did pretty well - not an anthology series but still decided episodic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (I2dne)

===========

It's easier to figure out how to tell a complete story over 50 script pages than it is over 500.

500 is hard.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (q80AH)

153 Most television seems content to fill half of that time with unrelated side stories that don't actually feed the central story. They're flabby.

But this, then, is the story of Netflix original content.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (KZzsI)

154

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (q80AH)

155 Best shows on TV today are animated. Bob's Burgers and Archer. I miss the hell out of King of the Hill I'll tell you what.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (NqZ29)

156 When people write something where the leftist ideas are vindicated, it's "beautiful" and "visionary" and wins Nobel prizes in literature, Emmies, and Oscars.

When someone writes something where conservative ideas are vindicated, it's called history.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (KUaJL)

157 64 Trudeau might have been fired from a teaching gig for sleeping with a 17yo.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (CQ3Qb)

Funny how this did not come up during election season the first time around.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (ycWCI)

158 Lance makes Paolo crazy jealous.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (t41dG)

159 Meh. There are only a handful of plots.

I actually see it as closer to Dunkirk in its attempt to show all sides of a concentrated conflict in one film.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:29 PM (q80AH)

Haven't seen Dunkirk, and no, there are endless plots, and only a handful of people willing to explore new ones.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (jYnPD)

160 Man vs. Man
Man vs. Nature
Man vs. Himself

Lit 101

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (u//oP)

161 We hates him.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe
>>
??Smeagol??

Posted by: FrodoB, reloading at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (WkmoA)

162 I stopped reading Kevin's stuff long ago.

Everyone kept raving about him but he always seemed to be impressed with his own abilities to write to make his works coherent.

So i figured this was a #IHaveABlackFriend deal in the Cuckservative Twitter speak.

and I haven't seen anything else to dissuade me of that position.

Posted by: Blanco at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (BZQgK)

163 I'm sorry, I'm still not seeing the connection between three people winning a Nobel Prize in Physics and why that means conservatives should watch Girls.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (rP4OC)

164 153 Most television seems content to fill half of that time with unrelated side stories that don't actually feed the central story. They're flabby.

But this, then, is the story of Netflix original content.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (KZzsI)

===========

Yeah, pretty much.

It's one of the big reasons I prefer movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (q80AH)

165 Joey Heatherton > Heather Thomas
Posted by: Diogenes at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (axyOa)

Helen Thomas> Heather Thomas

Posted by: Zombie Yassir Arafat at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (NFEMn)

166 Anthology series FTW. The Twilight Zone is tops. Black Mirror was pretty good, too. Hell, even Star Trek did pretty well - not an anthology series but still decided episodic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (I2dne)

Hitchcock's shows, Boris Karloff's "Thriller" - I love those old anthology shows.

Posted by: josephistan at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (Izzlo)

167

Pretty good explanation here.

Physics Nobel awarded for exoplanet and cosmological discoveries
The three new laureates discovered the first planet orbiting a solar-type star and improved our understanding of how the universe evolved.
https://tinyurl.com/y35fekwc

One of my hangouts, because "I love science" too.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (vEIlU)

168 Barrel, blaster. Do tidy up, mmkay?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (jYnPD)

169 It's a bit unfair to call Kevbo a wife-sharer. He'd have to have a wife for that. Based on his ex's recent letter to the editor, she was too crazy to pimp out for yucks.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (0uRNV)

170 I used to think MASH was hilarious, until I grew up and started watching all the old movies and shows that they stole gags and jokes from. Now its just obnoxious.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (KZzsI)

171 157
64 Trudeau might have been fired from a teaching gig for sleeping with a 17yo.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (CQ3Qb)

Was he wearing blackface? The 17 year old I mean?

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (iAwUQ)

172 Man vs. Man
Man vs. Nature
Man vs. Himself

Lit 101
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (u

Man vs AI

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (NqZ29)

173 Ok I went and looked at his article - what an insipid piece of dreck. What he misses completely is that over the last 20 years or so, Big Media entertainment has totally severed it's relationship and connection to average people in flyover country like me. They make storylines I despise about people that disgust me, that is if they have a story line at all. Most of the time its just boring, pointless garbage. I don't WANT to watch a boring soap opera where bloody zombies show up intermittently, i don't WANT to watch a rehash of Tolkien with all the heroism and insight taken out and replaced by meaningless sex and pointless bloodshed, I don't want to watch some show about a Hip Hop Record company. And you can't make me.

and I've already given up any hope that NR will ever come back up and be what it once was. Let it die.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (Kpl3J)

174 159 Haven't seen Dunkirk, and no, there are endless plots, and only a handful of people willing to explore new ones.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (jYnPD)

===========

It's variations on a handful, really.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (q80AH)

175 I get it though, I only watch Dragonball Z because it really reifies the eternal conflict between the Apollonian and Dionysian, the lugubrious depths between the id and the Superego, the conflict between Heidegger's modern technological man and Kant's adherent to the categorical imperative - in some ways, it's even a re-telling - no, a reconcretization of Campbell's Hero with a thousand faces or Frazer's eternal returnee.

Also laser beams go pow spiky golden hair punch kick explosion lasers.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (oZ6kz)

176 142
So how is Elizabeth Warren involved in this?

I just read a story that Hillary has a full crew of "aides"
investigating and digging dirt up on the main Dems running for Pres...
She's taking them down one by one so she can come in to save the day.. I
laughed till I thought about it... Stuff has been coming out about
Warren and Biden....

Posted by: It's me donna at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (O2RFr)

That's been the M.O. of the Clinton Machine for 40 years.
The best part is if the Dems really believed The Russians! stole the election from her in 2016 how could anyone stand in her for the 2020 nomination? I've been saying this for 3 years.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (CQ3Qb)

177 I used to like Williamson. Of all the Nevertrumpers his fall was the biggest disappointment.

Not the biggest surprise dude has anger issues from way back. I just thought he would get himself killed in a brawl.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (B06Zw)

178 Most television seems content to fill half of that time with unrelated side stories that don't actually feed the central story. They're flabby"

It takes skill to write a cohesive and comprehensive tale of under 60 minutes...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (yshTX)

179 Heh. Remind me never to get on Ace's bad side ...

Posted by: ShainS at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (7LTrc)

180 So, why does CNN seem to hate the new Joker movie so much?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (ycWCI)

181 142
So how is Elizabeth Warren involved in this?

I just read a story that Hillary has a full crew of "aides"
investigating and digging dirt up on the main Dems running for Pres...
She's taking them down one by one so she can come in to save the day.. I
laughed till I thought about it... Stuff has been coming out about
Warren and Biden....

Posted by: It's me donna at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (O2RFr)

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I've been guessing this for months.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (q80AH)

182 Wife & I made it through 3 or so episodes of Marvelous Mrs. Maisel a few months back before giving up. Couldn't get over how little she saw/thought about her young kids. Maybe b/c my grandkids are 3, 1. I dunno.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (Xvo1a)

183 Blaster to the white courtesy phone. And the barrel. Mostly the barrel.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (LISuA)

184 You can't deny that television shows have an impact on culture. Take baby-naming. Heather Locklear and Heather Thomas begat lots of Heathers.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (NFEMn)

185 180 So, why does CNN seem to hate the new Joker movie so much?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (ycWCI)

Maybe Trump tweeted that he liked it.

Posted by: Roy at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (cD09y)

186 It was hyperbowl. There was a particular time in which there was a palpable decision to stop airing actual history and start with all the reality crap. It is unwatchable.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:26 PM (jYnPD)

I see your "reality shows" (sic) on the History Channel and raise you "Ancient Astronaut Theorists", which is far worse.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (ujg0T)

187 used to think MASH was hilarious, until I grew up and started watching all the old movies and shows that they stole gags and jokes from. Now its just obnoxious.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (KZzsI)

It jumped the shark when Trapper left.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (NqZ29)

188 160 Man vs. Man
Man vs. Nature
Man vs. Himself

Lit 101
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (u//oP)

Man Vs Food

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (ycWCI)

189 Next week, he'll be explaining why true conservative men put down their rifles and gargle baby batter and why you should try it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (xfb67)

190 172
Man vs. Man

Man vs. Nature

Man vs. Himself

Lit 101

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (u

Man vs AI

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (NqZ29)

AI vs AI
AI becomes man.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (jYnPD)

191 151 118 I just graph the use of cocaine and other drugs in the entertainment industry and the unwatchability of their output.

You saw the Star Wars Christmas Special too?
Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (9VeU0)

Cocaine? C'mon, they had to invent special new 1970s only drugs to come up with that shit.

Posted by: josephistan at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (Izzlo)

192 184 You can't deny that television shows have an impact on culture. Take baby-naming. Heather Locklear and Heather Thomas begat lots of Heathers.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (NFEMn)

==========

But that's not what Williamson is arguing.

He's arguing that television is a high art form that must be obsessed over.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (q80AH)

193 I like to go to sleep with Ancient Alien shows on in the background.

Those shows write themselves.

Could the sky being blue a sign that God is a Tarheel? Ancient alien theorists suggest that it could.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (9VeU0)

194 Man vs AI

Don't think that one existed yet when I was in college in the paleolithic age!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (u//oP)

195 The blood vomiting Ebola patient is currently 3rd place in the dem primary.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (Vf/Bs)

196 I initially read this as "Mime Wives".

How annoying would that be. Wowsers.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (Y4EXg)

I don't know, the peace and quiet would be like heaven. Although my trick of pretending that my hearing is failing would need to be changed to occasionally walking into things. That might suck.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (kUmUV)

197 "Kevin D. Williamson reporting for rear Dispatch duty, sir!"

Posted by: ShainS at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (7LTrc)

198 Well now its time for some definitions.

Story is the sequence of events and descriptions of what takes place over a time period.

Plot is the core of the story, what its about when you distil it down to its most simple, basic form.

Kill Bill's story about a woman who wakes up from a coma and goes on a killing rampage.

Kill Bill's plot is man vs man, a basic revenge plot.

So there are only so many basic plots, very few in number. There are infinite stories to tell around those plots.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (KZzsI)

199 194 Man vs AI

Don't think that one existed yet when I was in college in the paleolithic age!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (u//oP)

==========

Creator vs. the creation.

Frankenstein.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (q80AH)

200 I see your "reality shows" (sic) on the History Channel and raise you "Ancient Astronaut Theorists", which is far worse.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (ujg0T)

I gladly jumped ship before I was exposed to such a horror.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (jYnPD)

201 149
I fukkin hated MASH. Left wing propaganda wall to fukkin wall. Alan Alda the prototype soiboy.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (LLzS4)

The theme song doesn't get past three notes before I've turned the TV off so fast, I leave a motion trail.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (rP4OC)

202 My Wife and Kids > The Cosby Show

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (NqZ29)

203 195 The blood vomiting Ebola patient is currently 3rd place in the dem primary.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (Vf/Bs)

Sanders?

Posted by: Roy at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (cD09y)

204 >>>>I just thought he would get himself killed in a brawl.

A brawl after he slaps the cell-phone out of the hand of a woman spoiling his good time at the opera, maybe?

Posted by: ace at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (PbpT7)

205

(Inside Science) -- The 2019 Nobel Prize in physics has been awarded to three scientists "for contribution to our understanding of the evolution of the universe and Earth's place in the cosmos."

This year's prize was awarded to James Peebles of Princeton University "for theoretical discoveries in physical cosmology, and Michel Mayor of the University of Geneva and Didier Queloz, of the University of Geneva and the University of Cambridge, "for the discovery of an exoplanet orbiting a solar-type star."

"Cosmic background radiation was discovered in 1965 and turned out to be a gold mine for our understanding of how the universe developed from its early childhood to its present day," said Mats Larsson, a member of the Nobel Prize Committee. "Were it not for the theoretical discoveries of James Peebles, the wonderful high precision measurement of these radiations over the last 20 years would have told us almost nothing."

Peebles made major theoretical contributions that improved the understanding of the universe, including the cosmic microwave background, dark matter, dark energy, and the Big Bang model.

Ulf Danielsson, another member of the Nobel Prize Committee, explained the importance of Peebles' contribution to physical cosmology. Using a cup of coffee, he illustrated the components of the universe.

"This is the dark energy," said Danielsson, as he poured the dark coffee into a glass mug. Then he added a dash of cream. "This is the dark matter," he said. Finally, he sprinkled a tiny bit of sugar into the mug. "This is the ordinary matter. This is what science had been all about for thousands of years, up until now," he said. "In the mid-1960s, James Peebles realized the importance of cosmic radiation. Over the next two decades, he developed new theoretical tools, and used them to uncover the dark components of our universe."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (vEIlU)

206 160 Man vs. Man
Man vs. Nature
Man vs. Himself

Lit 101
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (u//oP)

Heinlein's three stories:

1. Girl meets boy
2. The little tinker
3. The man who learned better

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (RD7QR)

207 198 Well now its time for some definitions.

Story is the sequence of events and descriptions of what takes place over a time period.

Plot is the core of the story, what its about when you distil it down to its most simple, basic form.

Kill Bill's story about a woman who wakes up from a coma and goes on a killing rampage.

Kill Bill's plot is man vs man, a basic revenge plot.

So there are only so many basic plots, very few in number. There are infinite stories to tell around those plots.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (KZzsI)

=========

Well said.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (q80AH)

208 I see your "reality shows" (sic) on the History Channel and raise you "Ancient Astronaut Theorists", which is far worse.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

Oak Island.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (0t+fn)

209 Trudeau might have been fired from a teaching gig for sleeping with a 17yo
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Aha!

I do not think they were sleeping!

Posted by: Inspector Clouseau at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (q+bdA)

210 So, why does CNN seem to hate the new Joker movie so much?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (ycWCI)

Because they reallly really wanted somebody to shoot up a theater during it so they could run all those gun control stories they've been longing to do since it became clear that this Ukraine thing isn't going to turn out well for Democrats.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (KUaJL)

211 I sleep to Ancient Aliens too! I think it's the announcers voice or something.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (xfb67)

212 175
I get it though, I only watch Dragonball Z because it really reifies the
eternal conflict between the Apollonian and Dionysian, the lugubrious
depths between the id and the Superego, the conflict between Heidegger's
modern technological man and Kant's adherent to the categorical
imperative - in some ways, it's even a re-telling - no, a
reconcretization of Campbell's Hero with a thousand faces or Frazer's
eternal returnee.

Also laser beams go pow spiky golden hair punch kick explosion lasers.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (oZ6kz)

And Bulma's panties.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (rP4OC)

213 Hmmm, biggest NT disappointment?

I used to like George Will in the early dawn hours of the internet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (ycWCI)

214 151 118 I just graph the use of cocaine and other drugs in the entertainment industry and the unwatchability of their output.

You saw the Star Wars Christmas Special too?
Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (9VeU0)

I think this actually peaked in anything made by Sid and Marty Croft, most notably H R Puff'n'Stuff. In fairness, that wasn't cocaine, that had to be straight acid all the way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (Kpl3J)

215 Williamson sees himself as a white trash H. L. Mencken, but he is too dense for Hee Haw. While Williamson is rightly reviled for wishing death on the white working class, that wasn't his most stupid commentary. No, that dishonor belongs to "Peak Leftism," written about five years ago. Williamson predicted way back then that the left-wing insanity had reached the tipping point and would soon end. Mencken also was an asshole who got huge things wrong, so maybe Williamson does fill his shoes in that regard. God knows he would fill Mencken's pants.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (iw59Q)

216 Got a free month at Netflix, so turned it on just to see if they have anything worth watching (won't pay for it with Obama doing crap for them).

Tried to watch the Reboot Beauty and the Beast.

Beast was the victim of an Evil US Government experiment. Beauty was a 110 lbs Female cop, who in the first 30 minutes kicked the shit out of 2 much larger male opponents, but then was struck down by a FEMALE baddy.

Turned it off.

Taking a classic story of redemption, and classic gender rolls, and turning it totally SJW.

Wow, yup, THAT is the TV this dolt wants us to watch.

Posted by: Don Q at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (NgKpN)

217 Don't forget about me!

Posted by: Bill Nye the Science Guy at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (cD09y)

218 So there are only so many basic plots, very few in number. There are infinite stories to tell around those plots.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (KZzsI)

Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (jYnPD)

219 213 Hmmm, biggest NT disappointment?

I used to like George Will in the early dawn hours of the internet.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (ycWCI)

==========

Will pretty much outright admits that his problems with Trump have nothing to do with policy. It's weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (q80AH)

220 195 The blood vomiting Ebola patient is currently 3rd place in the dem primary.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (Vf/Bs)

HE DEPARTED FROM MOMBASA AND WILL ARRIVE IN ATLANTA SHORTLY AND OH GOD WHAT'S THIS EATING MY LEG?

Posted by: EBOLA MAPS GUY at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (RD7QR)

221 Heather Thomas + Pink Bikini + Hot Tub = Greatest Poster Ever

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (4VGhz)

222 So there are only so many basic plots, very few in number. There are infinite stories to tell around those plots.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (KZzsI)

=========

Well said.
===
Every story is a love story.

Posted by: Zombie Gene Wolfe at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (2oYc3)

223 I don't think the Dirtpatch will make it to January.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (YslsA)

224 I wish Campbell had never written that damned stupid bit, its one of those things people who want to sound sophisticated and literary namedrop, and has done more damage to storytelling than anything else in history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (KZzsI)

225 Other than History Discovery and Science channel, the only other show I watch is Last Man Standing.. Oh and an occasional HGTV or as my Husband calls it Homo Garden TV

Posted by: It's me donna at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (O2RFr)

226 This is the dark energy," said Danielsson, as he poured the dark coffee into a glass mug. Then he added a dash of cream. "This is the dark matter," he said. Finally, he sprinkled a tiny bit of sugar into the mug. "This is the ordinary matter. This is what science had been all about for thousands of years, up until now," he said. "In the mid-1960s, James Peebles realized the importance of cosmic radiation. Over the next two decades, he developed new theoretical tools, and used them to uncover the dark components of our universe."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (vEIlU)

So its true what they say about coffee then.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (9VeU0)

227 222 So there are only so many basic plots, very few in number. There are infinite stories to tell around those plots.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (KZzsI)

=========

Well said.
===
Every story is a love story.
Posted by: Zombie Gene Wolfe at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (2oYc3)

=========

"Yup."
-Epstein, watching Pippi Longstockings

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (q80AH)

228 Haven't seen Dunkirk, and no, there are endless plots, and only a handful of people willing to explore new ones.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (jYnPD)

There is a finite number of plots. Most of them are old as the hills and out of those there are only a few that people want see or read again and again.

The same goes for music. There are many notes, but there is a limited number of notes--that in conjunction with other notes--sound pleasing to the ear.
People want to hear them again and again.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (NFEMn)

229 great revenge story with a twist on cable now

Faster

Dwayne Johnson and Billy Bob

Great twist on the ending

Posted by: simplemind at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (Rsye6)

230
Watch more comedy and drama shows instead of news? Or be woke and ignurnt like libs and watch late night "comedy" talk shows where all three elements are combined into one offering!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (pNxlR)

231 But notice how very vague he is in this post. The first half of the prize was awarded to a man for "for theoretical discoveries in physical cosmology" -- well, which ones, precisely, Kevin?

In fairness, I'm a physical scientist, and I don't have the faintest notion of anything about physical cosmology. It's unreasonable to expect a layman to have any grasp of this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (auq4b)

232 Ace at some point when ya can't control your self you slap the phone out of "Bubba's" little sisters hand and he puts a beat down on ya. Williamson has issues.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (B06Zw)

233 One day, Kevin will pass English 101 and move beyond lazy "compare and contrast" essays.

Today is not that day

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (k81AA)

234 All I got from that is Mr. Peebles won a Nobel Prize - that our Horde Mr. Peebles?

Congrats Mr. Peebles! Because Kevin Williamson fucking loves you!

Posted by: Boswell at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (32YRo)

235 214 151 118 I just graph the use of cocaine and other drugs in the entertainment industry and the unwatchability of their output.

You saw the Star Wars Christmas Special too?
Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:30 PM (9VeU0)

I think this actually peaked in anything made by Sid and Marty Croft, most notably H R Puff'n'Stuff. In fairness, that wasn't cocaine, that had to be straight acid all the way.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (Kpl3J)

Oh come come. How could you not like "Electra Woman and Dyna Girl", combining lesbian chic with camp?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (ujg0T)

236
In fairness, I'm a physical scientist, and I don't have the faintest notion of anything about physical cosmology. It's unreasonable to expect a layman to have any grasp of this.

How to apply mascara?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (O2RFr)

237 Pearls before swine. I'll never show you my adaptation of C.H.U.D. for broadway now. Ingrates!

Posted by: Kevin Williamson at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (0uRNV)

238 224 I wish Campbell had never written that damned stupid bit, its one of those things people who want to sound sophisticated and literary namedrop, and has done more damage to storytelling than anything else in history.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (KZzsI)

==========

Have you read A Hero with a Thousand Faces?

I read it in preparation for my George Washington book, and I found it quite helpful in understanding things about mythical structures and symbols. It wasn't 100%, but it was certainly not without worth.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (q80AH)

239 And then there's Joseph R. Campbell and The Hero's Journey, which is more than just a story.

Donald J. Trump is on the Hero's Journey.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (Kpl3J)

240 Williamson really is a blow hard. How far he has fallen.

He sounds like a lunatic trying to explain what WE should be getting out of a tv show. Kind of like what WE should be getting out of a music track or a poem, or literature for that matter.

TV shows. Most written by morons (not us).

I really cannot believe that it is real. Like it's not some kind of joke - what he's written.

Wth. Is he high on drugs or drunk when he writes now? He seems completely off the charts. Maybe he has a tumor.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (vEIlU)

241 Man vs. Man
Man vs. Society
Man vs. Nature
Man vs. himself
Man vs. his own penis
Man vs. The Volcano
Man vs. Wild
Man vs. Food
Brown vs. Board of Education
Ecks vs. Sever

These are the basic foundations of all storytelling.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (oZ6kz)

242 Black Mirror was pretty good, too.

Black Mirror worked.

The American ripoff version "Two Sentence Horror Stories" sucks as bad as anything had ever sucked.

Aside from taking its stylistic cues as a weak Black Mirror impression, every single story is about a white guy abusing a minority woman. (Except the one episode where a Chinese ghost guy is abusing a Chinese woman.)

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 02:39 PM (O7MnT)

243 Best show on TV is Aerial America if you ignore most of the Liberal narration.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:39 PM (NqZ29)

244 Every story is a love story.
Posted by: Zombie Gene Wolfe at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (2oYc3)

I might add that every GOOD story is a love story.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:39 PM (ycWCI)

245
I like how Ace bags on this fat bastard for being a political cuck and a total fucking lightweight who couldn't understand the origins of the universe better than my regular, non-media, Trump-supporting-scientist old man, even if his sad-sack life depended on it.

I also like his highlighting of Williamson's origins from the white-trash class that Kevin so stridently derides.

But if it were me, I'd also point out how he's an actual real-life cuck, as vividly described by his erstwhile "wife" in her hateful screed against his violently anti-woman personality, which of course inspired her to stray repeatedly.

But that's just me.

Maybe I'm meaner than Ace.

Of course, I gave my woman multiple orgasms on Sunday, so maybe it's just my normal level of testosterone talking.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 08, 2019 02:39 PM (ggmC1)

246 241 Ecks vs. Sever

These are the basic foundations of all storytelling.
Posted by

==========

There really is no other story.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:39 PM (q80AH)

247 167

Pretty good explanation here.

The only quibble I have with that is that it's a subset of what's on wikipedia (for Peebles) and it doesn't explain what he did specifically.

Wiki notes that he *predicted* the cosmic background radiation (with Dicke) but not much more. Mostly it just specifies what subfields of cosmology he contributed to.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 02:39 PM (vWMNq)

248 I see your "reality shows" (sic) on the History Channel and raise you "Ancient Astronaut Theorists", which is far worse.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

They are just "asking questions", man.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 08, 2019 02:40 PM (VFal0)

249 The theme song doesn't get past three notes before I've turned the TV off so fast, I leave a motion trail.
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (rP4OC)

Most people don't know what that song is about.

Suicide is Painless.

No, its not.

Posted by: Don Q at October 08, 2019 02:40 PM (NgKpN)

250 No one needs more than one orgasm!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 08, 2019 02:40 PM (xfb67)

251 aw come on Campbell had good points. We love that storyline.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 02:40 PM (Kpl3J)

252 This Kevin guy talks like a fag and his shit is all tarded n shit.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at October 08, 2019 02:40 PM (0OmEj)

253 I don't think the Dirtpatch will make it to January.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (YslsA)
++++++++++++++
It would be difficult for three dudes in one small office with total other expenses of a furniture lease and some rudimentary web services to burn through $6 million in three months.

I know that it has to pay for the snack budget, too, but there still only three of them...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 08, 2019 02:40 PM (I2dne)

254 Kevin Williamson forgot to tell us what episode of Cheers was his favorite,

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:40 PM (NqZ29)

255 But that's not what Williamson is arguing.

He's arguing that television is a high art form that must be obsessed over.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:34 PM (q80AH)

I know what he meant and he's full of shit--as usual.
I think at best, it reflects how we see ourselves--or WANT to see ourselves.
Or how the scriptwriters WISH the world was...

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 02:40 PM (NFEMn)

256 Oh come come. How could you not like "Electra Woman and Dyna Girl", combining lesbian chic with camp?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (ujg0T)

It's no Xena

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:40 PM (9VeU0)

257 In fairness, I'm a physical scientist, and I don't have the faintest notion of anything about physical cosmology. It's unreasonable to expect a layman to have any grasp of this.

How to apply mascara?
======
Oh no he can do that, even while driving!

Posted by: hanging slider at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (g1wYG)

258 Oh and an occasional HGTV or as my Husband calls it Homo Garden TV
Posted by: It's me donna at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (O2RFr)

A moment of silence for the formerly perky Suzanne Whang, who sadly had breast cancer and died.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (ujg0T)

259 naw, this is just another role Justin was playing. in this case, the creepy paedo teacher.

he went really deep into that role! and into some kid's vagina.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (WF3jy)

260 And Bulma's panties.
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 08, 2019 02:35 PM (rP4OC)

Real DBZ fans go for Launch.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (KUaJL)

261 Man vs. Man
Man vs. Society
Man vs. Nature
Man vs. himself
Man vs. his own penis
Man vs. The Volcano
Man vs. Wild
Man vs. Food

Man vs nature.
Man vs. Woman.
And Man vs. the Empire Brain Building.

https://youtu.be/MMQErIB58Uc

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (O7MnT)

262 How to apply mascara?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (O2RFr)

I don't have the faintest notion of how to do that either.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (auq4b)

263
Kevin D Lardass doesn't seem to understand that TV Shows have one purpose, and one purpose only. To gather a targeted audience so that the networks can sell advertising. It has NO OTHER PURPOSE.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (veoSD)

264 244 Every story is a love story.
Posted by: Zombie Gene Wolfe at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (2oYc3)

I might add that every GOOD story is a love story.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:39 PM (ycWCI)

This, is the story, of the RAGE of Achilles.

I guess its a love gone bad story.

Posted by: Don Q at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (NgKpN)

265 241 Man vs. Man
Man vs. Society
Man vs. Nature
Man vs. himself
Man vs. his own penis
Man vs. The Volcano
Man vs. Wild
Man vs. Food
Brown vs. Board of Education
Ecks vs. Sever

These are the basic foundations of all storytelling.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM (oZ6kz)

Isn't man vs. his own penis really just a love story?

Posted by: EBOLA MAPS GUY at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (RD7QR)

266 It's bad enough that KW doesn't consider that if conservatives aren't watching his MUST SEE TV guide, they might be doing other things besides watching cable news.

Second jobs, school board meetings, time with children, shopping, chores, etc.

But in KW Elite World, there is time with peers, then Twitter time, then TV Time. He's Maureen Dowd without boobs.

Oh, and that he didn't include Frasier in the "old shows you must watch that I watch", shows to me that he's an intellectual lightweight like his Simpsons binging buddy Jonah.

Posted by: kbdabear at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (qAR6u)

267 You let your woman borrow your credit cards, YD? What a mensch!

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (oZ6kz)

268
Pus-gut Kev didn't score an invite to become a writer for the Pisspatch?

Oh, the shame!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (pNxlR)

269 >>>>>I see your "reality shows" (sic) on the History Channel and raise you "Ancient Astronaut Theorists", which is far worse.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

If you really want to punch yourself in the nuts, watch America Unearthed.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (IAOr/)

270 I know that it has to pay for the snack budget, too, but there still only three of them...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 08, 2019 02:40 PM (I2dne)

But when you add the couch cleaning/decontamination?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:42 PM (ycWCI)

271 It would be difficult for three dudes in one small office with total other expenses of a furniture lease and some rudimentary web services to burn through $6 million in three months.

I know that it has to pay for the snack budget, too, but there still only three of them...
Posted by: Joe Mannix

What was the weed budget?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2019 02:42 PM (0t+fn)

272 Mr MWR and I basically subsist on anime, with a little Walking Dead and Stranger Things. Everything else is crap.

Currently watching Bloodgate Battlefront and Psycho Pass.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 02:42 PM (O7MnT)

273 257 In fairness, I'm a physical scientist, and I don't have the faintest notion of anything about physical cosmology. It's unreasonable to expect a layman to have any grasp of this.

How to apply mascara?
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Oh no he can do that, even while driving!
Posted by: hanging slider at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (g1wYG)

I said layMAN, not layWOMAN. Although the jury is still out on whether Mayor Buttplug is knowledgeable about mascara.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2019 02:42 PM (auq4b)

274 Watch more television, huh?

What's the name of that tv show? The one with the tramp wives cheating on their husbands? I don't know.

But I bet Kevin does.

All of them.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at October 08, 2019 02:42 PM (xmKbk)

275 Two TV commercial trends:
1) in their effort to appear multi-cultural, there is an oversampling of commercials with mixed-race couples.
2) commercials for drugs aren't there to get you to take them, but rather they are on TV to make sure you can never say that you never heard about the side-effects of these drugs.
If you have an erection for longer than 4-hours, see medical help.

Posted by: Neo at October 08, 2019 02:42 PM (3aI0K)

276
A moment of silence for the formerly perky Suzanne Whang, who sadly had breast cancer and died.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (ujg0T)

I didn't know she died.
HDTV is great background TV...

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 02:42 PM (NFEMn)

277 haven't seen that many strawmen set fire to since Gaylord was in office

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at October 08, 2019 02:43 PM (RKQ/v)

278 that had to be straight acid all the way."

*sigh*

No, y'all forgot the bestest ever - Testor's Plastic Cement, in convenient pocket sizes...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 08, 2019 02:43 PM (yshTX)

279 Give Kevin a break!!

He had to submit so many words so he filled the article with TV shows he watched.

Next week, he will fill the article with bands he use to listen to.

Posted by: Blanco at October 08, 2019 02:43 PM (BZQgK)

280 But if it were me, I'd also point out how he's an actual real-life cuck, as vividly described by his erstwhile "wife" in her hateful screed against his violently anti-woman personality, which of course inspired her to stray repeatedly.
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Wait --- that actually happened? It wasn't just you guys being sarcastic? Link . . .

Posted by: no way No Way at October 08, 2019 02:43 PM (q+bdA)

281 Yayyyy more people watching Psychopass.

Season 3 starts next month. I'm mildly excited - Season 2 was kind of a letdown.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:43 PM (oZ6kz)

282 It wasn't 100%, but it was certainly not without worth.

The problem isn't that he was entirely wrong, its that he was too narrow in scope (there's a lot more to storytelling than he says, and a lot more stories than he claims). And even worse than that, he tried to reduce art to formula and mathematics, he's trying to quantify the unquantifiable in a series of rules and patterns which simply does not work with art.

Its like trying to turn the Mona Lisa into an algorithm of why it works and what angles and shapes to use based on a computer program.

And what frustrates me most is that people read this thinking it unlocks the secret to storytelling and writing, when they should be unleashing their imagination to write and learn through that. Storytelling isn't about formula, its about the story.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:43 PM (KZzsI)

283 Oh, you know what occurred to me a while ago?

In Harry Potter, the Slytherin House is basically just a liberal caricature of conservatives.

I've got half a mind to tell a story in the HP universe where the Slytherin people aren't all Evil for Evil's sake, but they're the people who are worried about maintaining a tradition and don't want to tear down Chesterton's fence between the wizard and the muggle world.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (KUaJL)

284 231 In fairness, I'm a physical scientist, and I don't have the faintest notion of anything about physical cosmology.

I am a mathematician but I am familiar with almost everything on wikipedia about Peebles based on things I read as a child.

Good scientists (I've heard more than a few give public lectures) can explain things to the uninitiated. A few, like Feynman, are quite good at it.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (vWMNq)

285 264 244 Every story is a love story.
Posted by: Zombie Gene Wolfe at October 08, 2019 02:36 PM (2oYc3)

I might add that every GOOD story is a love story.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:39 PM (ycWCI)

This, is the story, of the RAGE of Achilles.

I guess its a love gone bad story.
Posted by: Don Q at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (NgKpN)

Well, it's Achilles loves Patroclus.

Posted by: EBOLA MAPS GUY at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (RD7QR)

286 This, is the story, of the RAGE of Achilles.

I guess its a love gone bad story.
Posted by: Don Q at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (NgKpN)

Poor old Paris and Helen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (ycWCI)

287 I love those occult history, pseudo history shows. I could watch In Search Of reruns on an endless loop. A good one - available on Amazon Prime - is The Curse of Oak Island - a combination of treasure hunting, batshit crazy legend and history, and engineering.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (0uRNV)

288

I learned more from watching The Dukes of Hazzard than I did in 5th grade.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (PdFjh)

289
Posted by: kbdabear at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (qAR6u)

Brain bleach required
Maureen Dowd without boobs

Posted by: Fat Jack at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (aA3+G)

290 Williamson is such a tedious, tiresome twat.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (NWiLs)

291 >>>In fairness, I'm a physical scientist, and I don't have the faintest notion of anything about physical cosmology. It's unreasonable to expect a layman to have any grasp of this.

He brought the subject up in a written piece; is it too much to ask he does a bit more searching and at least comes up with a basic explanation, like the one artisinal 'ette posted?

He wants the credit for Bein' Elite while doing none of the work to merit it.

Posted by: ace at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (PbpT7)

292 -
--
I'll never show you my adaptation of C.H.U.D. for broadway now. Ingrates!

Posted by: Kevin Williamson at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM

--------------------

Reality beat you to it.

1. Go to a Broadway show.
2. Observe cast/crew/audience.

Posted by: irright at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (pMGkg)

293
279 Give Kevin a break!!

He had to submit so many words so he filled the article with TV shows he watched.

Next week, he will fill the article with bands he use to listen to.
Posted by: Blanco at October 08, 2019 02:43 PM (BZQgK)

After that, locations on his body where he picked scabs during the prior week.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (pNxlR)

294 Sweet Baby Jesus this is a superbly excellent essay!

funny, too. It's always good to bring The Funny; ameliorates the anger

Posted by: Andersonville Cooper Vanderbilt Gettysburg at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (8KSPd)

295 The Masked Singer was tailor made for fat fuck hillbilly Ivy Leaguer.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (yRAFu)

296 >>>290 Williamson is such a tedious, tiresome twat.

yes. self impressed, and easily impressed.

Posted by: ace at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (PbpT7)

297 282 And what frustrates me most is that people read this thinking it unlocks the secret to storytelling and writing, when they should be unleashing their imagination to write and learn through that. Storytelling isn't about formula, its about the story.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:43 PM (KZzsI)

===========

I think Campbell's great contribution is to get people thinking about structure. Structure is so key to storytelling, and many people don't think about it.

So, even if he was too narrow in focus (which I don't disagree with) or too dogmatic (his embrace of Freudianism is off putting), his ability to get writers to think about structure at all is a great contribution.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (q80AH)

298 BRB

Binge watching The Jeffersons on Netflix.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (88+cf)

299 Psychopass has enough philosophy in it that you could pass it off as "omg you LEARN so much from it" - but nah, it's just a really fucking fun dystopian Sci-Fi.

With the best fictional gun ever.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (oZ6kz)

300 Conservatives really need to watch more made-up stories where we learn orangemanbad.

Posted by: Kevin at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (DuZls)

301 "But conservatives ought instead to appreciate the three most conservative words ever spoken on the vast stage that is HBO: "Winter is coming."

Oh lord. As a feral Game of Thrones fan, the term "Winter Is Coming" was about as anti-climatic as Kevin D Williamson's cuck life.

7 seasons of build up rendered into a ironic meme about lowered expectations.

Keven pretends to read Sciencey stuff, but he also pretends to watch the very cable shows he lectures us to watch. Otherwise, he would have known that "Winter Is Coming" is now a sick joke to fans of the show like me.

Posted by: Fenrisulven at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (Ad2sq)

302 Seriously all I can think about the Star Wars Christmas special is they got the idea to do it when Star Wars started getting popular, but by the time they got started it was so huge that they had shit-tons of money to burn so they just rolled a pallet of blow into the writers studio and said, there's more where that came from.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (9VeU0)

303 "this is "sarcasm," a very Elite form of humor"

Dude, your entire shtick is sarcasm and anger.
Just sayin'.

Posted by: GWB at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (dDmj8)

304 292 -
--
I'll never show you my adaptation of C.H.U.D. for broadway now. Ingrates!

Posted by: Kevin Williamson at October 08, 2019 02:38 PM

--------------------

Reality beat you to it.

1. Go to a Broadway show.
2. Observe cast/crew/audience.

Posted by: irright at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (pMGkg)

Sure NY looks bad if you focus on the pimps and the C.H.U.D.s

Posted by: josephistan at October 08, 2019 02:45 PM (Izzlo)

305
He's Maureen Dowd without boobs.

Posted by: kbdabear at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (qAR6u)

But twice the vagina.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (veoSD)

306 187 used to think MASH was hilarious, until I grew up and started watching all the old movies and shows that they stole gags and jokes from. Now its just obnoxious.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:32 PM (KZzsI)

It jumped the shark when Trapper left.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:33 PM (NqZ29)

As Commiecrat as "MASH" was, it did get a new lease on life when they introduced the Charles Emerson Winchester character (David Ogden Stiers).

Apparently, creators Larry Gelbart and Gene Reynolds realized that the liberal party line was growing stale, and they drew up a new conservative caricature. But this one had humanity, was witty and clever, and gave back as good as he got.

And it worked. Ratings jumped back up.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (ujg0T)

307 This, is the story, of the RAGE of Achilles"
Dude was a real heel...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (yshTX)

308 He sounds like a lunatic trying to explain what WE should be getting out of a tv show.

Exercise. A lunge at the "off" button on the remote.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (auq4b)

309 Never watched it but what story is Man in the High Castle

Alternate Universe Man vs Man?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (NqZ29)

310 I really do like original stories, even though they're hard to find. For instance, that Japanese movie where they were stranded on a desert island, and they slowly discovered that all of the crew on this lost ship they found had turned into giant walking mushroom, and then they all turned into giant mushrooms too, Now THAT was an original story.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (Kpl3J)

311 And even worse than that, he tried to reduce art to formula and mathematics, he's trying to quantify the unquantifiable in a series of rules and patterns which simply does not work with art.
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Phhhhfffft!

This is the kind of stuff that really gets my goat.

Posted by: The golden ratio at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (61JVj)

312 >>> Next week, he will fill the article with bands he use to listen to.

I heard he blew the Jonas Brothers

Posted by: Fat Jack at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (aA3+G)

313 Ebola sockoff, along with foot.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (RD7QR)

314 Gotta say that I don't give two fucks what this ball of wasted human sperm says but glad Ace breaks him down shotgun style.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (8SR1L)

315 228
Haven't seen Dunkirk, and no, there are endless plots, and only a handful of people willing to explore new ones.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:31 PM (jYnPD)

There is a finite number of plots. Most of them are old as the hills
and out of those there are only a few that people want see or read
again and again.

The same goes for music. There are many notes, but there is a
limited number of notes--that in conjunction with other notes--sound
pleasing to the ear.

People want to hear them again and again.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 02:37 PM (NFEMn)

Well we can differ on whether "plot" is to include only the highly abstract central conflicts (man v. man, etc.) explored in a storyline or whether it necessarily includes details and context of the cause and effect in the story.

Given the position that the plot of 1917 was more closely aligned to the plot of Dunkirk versus Saving Private Ryan, you'd have to go with the latter, notwithstanding the semantic distinctions and more abstract discussions available.

It's semantics largely argued those who actually care.

Posted by: Ogre at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (jYnPD)

316 Mr MWR and I basically subsist on anime, with a little Walking Dead and Stranger Things. Everything else is crap.

Went back and watched the Andy Griffith Show and starting The Beverly Hillbillies.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (0t+fn)

317 Winter Is Coming

....

....

....

welp, put on a sweater kthxbai

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfCollusion at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (Rarvo)

318 Last thing of value I ever read on The Corner was some piece by Mark Steyn. Last thing I ever read on The Corner was some douchebag editor explaining that Mark Steyn's commentary didn't reflect their values and he would no longer be associated with National Review.

At which point, if I remember right, I said to myself "f**k you NR."

Posted by: Prisoner of Cuomostan at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (W5B2n)

319 "That sounds like a lot of words to say that "Conservatives aren't interested enough in the things I want to talk about."

He just doesn't want us to make a fuss while he trades us to the Glue Factory for a case of beer (Boxer/1984 ref)

Posted by: Fenrisulven at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (Ad2sq)

320 And Silva wasn't "patriotically" serving his country. M sold him out because he was working side deals for his own benefit, thus going at least half rogue.

In case it hasn't already been mentioned. I know I'm late to the party.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (xmKbk)

321 All us inbred hick rubes always knowed there were planets outside the solar system because we see their spaceships out there in the swamps when we go huntin'

Posted by: Cletus at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (qAR6u)

322 And what frustrates me most is that people read this thinking it unlocks the secret to storytelling and writing, when they should be unleashing their imagination to write and learn through that. Storytelling isn't about formula, its about the story.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:43 PM (KZzsI)

But a love story unlocks the ability of the reader to relate to the story in different ways. It is the key to getting the reader invested. It is up to the writer to actually 'walk through the door' and be able to make that investment worthwhile.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (ycWCI)

323 310 I really do like original stories, even though they're hard to find. For instance, that Japanese movie where they were stranded on a desert island, and they slowly discovered that all of the crew on this lost ship they found had turned into giant walking mushroom, and then they all turned into giant mushrooms too, Now THAT was an original story.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (Kpl3J)

==========

Matango

Starts as an unbearable horror movie and ends as a very good horror movie.

Highly recommended.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (q80AH)

324 I've got half a mind to tell a story in the HP universe where the Slytherin people aren't all Evil for Evil's sake, but they're the people who are worried about maintaining a tradition and don't want to tear down Chesterton's fence between the wizard and the muggle world.

In my opinion, that was the absolute weakest part of her stories. Each of the other two houses had problems and strengths, virtues which they expressed and drawbacks. But Syltherin was just all bad. They were always the villains. They were whole heartedly evil. They had zero redeeming characteristics. There was no Slytherin who was virtuous and strong because of their principles.

That's just weak characterization.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (KZzsI)

325 I thought Winter only comes once a year...

Posted by: James Bond at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (oZ6kz)

326 317 Winter Is Coming

HOW DARE YOU!

Posted by: Greta at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (cD09y)

327 Winter would be coming, but Westeros is warming up at twice the rate of the rest of the globe, worryingly.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (KUaJL)

328 I really do like original stories, even though they're hard to find. For instance, that Japanese movie where they were stranded on a desert island, and they slowly discovered that all of the crew on this lost ship they found had turned into giant walking mushroom, and then they all turned into giant mushrooms too, Now THAT was an original story
=====
TBH that kind of sounds like a Jack Vance short story.

Posted by: I'm just sayin' at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (95SOk)

329 I don't think we're talking about people studying theoretical physics at Princeton when we're complaining about the Non-Elite Self-Regarded Elite. We're talking about Legacy Princelings like Hunter Biden (Georgetown, Yale Law) and Affirmative Action cases who are misplaced at these institutions and sublimate their embarrassment and shame into anger, the majority of whom express anxiety arising from being imposter Elites by abusing their supposed social subordinates. Note that it is estimated that 2/3rds of the class composition of "Elite" Universities consists of Legacy admits and Affirmative Action admits. This is clearly an unsustainable state of affairs in a society which has pretenses to meritocracy.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (ssz2a)

330 318
Last thing of value I ever read on The Corner was some piece by Mark Steyn

Post Derb's defenestration, obviously.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (vWMNq)

331 221 Heather Thomas + Pink Bikini + Hot Tub = Greatest Poster Ever

My time was a few years earlier. Debbie Harry, white nightgown, no bra.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (u//oP)

332 Fucking internet. People googling up the Decameron and shit.

Posted by: Shakespeare at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (9VeU0)

333 Oh, blaster....

Posted by: The Barrel at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (ejd/p)

334 Man vs. Hobo

Posted by: Fritz at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (2Mnv1)

335 After that, locations on his body where he picked scabs during the prior week.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

After that.. places where his ex wife cheated on him

There's enough for 3 to 5 articles.. At least!

Posted by: Blanco at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (BZQgK)

336 Binge watching The Jeffersons "

Moving on up, are we?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (yshTX)

337 184 You can't deny that television shows have an impact on culture. Take baby-naming. Heather Locklear and Heather Thomas begat lots of Heathers.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019

*
*

Those two probably inspired a lot of baby-making too.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (ClOmq)

338 Huh. I always thought Alice was divorced, not widowed. I thought that explained why she cleared out and moved to the Southwest

Not that I was really paying attention.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (1O2iV)

339 316 Mr MWR and I basically subsist on anime, with a little Walking Dead and Stranger Things. Everything else is crap.

Went back and watched the Andy Griffith Show and starting The Beverly Hillbillies.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (0t+fn)

It's telling that about 80% of the "trending" shows on Netflix are reruns and not original Netflix productions

Posted by: josephistan at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (Izzlo)

340 I thought Winter only comes once a year...
Posted by: James Bond at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM

Luxury!

Posted by: I. Omar at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (DMUuz)

341 I ordered an number of Charles Portis' books which always causes my wife to comment on my purchases of books. Yesterday she asked me if it was okay if she read Dog of the South cuz she started laughing at paragraph one. I said okay. Ace has this ability. This is talent.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (yRAFu)

342
Currently watching Bloodgate Battlefront and Psycho Pass.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 02:42 PM (O7MnT)
Mr. MWR is a big Psycho Pass fan. Hopefully season 3 will be good.

I'm a relatively new anime convert, but this past season was excellent. Cop Craft was *kisses fingertips* MWAH! Magnifique! As was Kanata no Astra (Astra Lost in Space). Both of which, by the way, dealt with modern topics (e.g., immigration, nonbinary genders, respectively) without beating the viewer over the head with "MESSAGE MESSAGE GET THIS MESSAGE MESSAGE MESSAGE."

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (rP4OC)

343 279 Give Kevin a break!!

Posted by: Kevin Krocker at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (3aI0K)

344 329 I don't think we're talking about people studying theoretical physics at Princeton when we're complaining about the Non-Elite Self-Regarded Elite. We're talking about Legacy Princelings like Hunter Biden (Georgetown, Yale Law) and Affirmative Action cases who are misplaced at these institutions and sublimate their embarrassment and shame into anger, the majority of whom express anxiety arising from being imposter Elites by abusing their supposed social subordinates. Note that it is estimated that 2/3rds of the class composition of "Elite" Universities consists of Legacy admits and Affirmative Action admits. This is clearly an unsustainable state of affairs in a society which has pretenses to meritocracy.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (ssz2a)

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Ah, but you see, by conflating the two very different sets of "elite", Williamson is able to mock the hoi polloi for being stupid.

What's his ultimate goal? To make himself feel smart.

Mission accomplished.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (q80AH)

345 Liberal neighbors of mine must spend 30+ hours a week watching various "drama" TV shows and Netflix series. They consider themselves "highly informed" because the media tells them all they need to know about reality.

Posted by: markoni at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (IIEz7)

346 Gee, I was thinking of taking KW's advice and going to night classes to learn to code, but now he tells me to vegetate on the couch and watch TV

Posted by: kbdabear at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (qAR6u)

347 >>>And Silva wasn't "patriotically" serving his country. M sold him out because he was working side deals for his own benefit, thus going at least half rogue.

oh I don't remember that.

Posted by: ace at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (PbpT7)

348 Who had time to watch all that stuff whether in the 70's, 80's, or up to now? Seriously. I'd say I caught, maybe, 50% of just 20% of those shows having skipped 100% of most of them.

How does a professional adult have time to waste on storytime unless your profession is explicitly to analyze storytime or to make commercials to insert into storytime?

Another myth being destroyed by MAGA and Trump? That we have an elite class. I'm more and more convinced that it isn't elitism; it's tribalism where some luck and circumstance are the driving forces for success. 'Cause a lot of these "elites" are clear idiots no matter how thick the wallet. And if it's not idiocy, it's pathologic criminality.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (6eEQ+)

349 So he doesn't like "intelligent design".

Why, because he believes it's all a cosmic joke?
Or because he believes it's Turtles all the way down?
Or because he believes that we're just part of a giantass simulation?

Tell us Kev, oh Kev, what IS the meaning of it all.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (37IEG)

350 I remember man vs slide rule.

Posted by: klaftern at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (RuIsu)

351 339
It's telling that about 80% of the "trending" shows on Netflix are reruns and not original Netflix productions
Posted by: josephistan at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (Izzlo)

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There's a reason they just paid $500 million for the rights to Seinfeld.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:49 PM (q80AH)

352 343
279 Give Kevin a break!!

At least get my name right

Posted by: Chris Crocker at October 08, 2019 02:50 PM (3aI0K)

353 Winter? Nah, Christmas. And yes, ms Richards was hot.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 08, 2019 02:50 PM (yshTX)

354 328 I really do like original stories, even though they're hard to find. For instance, that Japanese movie where they were stranded on a desert island, and they slowly discovered that all of the crew on this lost ship they found had turned into giant walking mushroom, and then they all turned into giant mushrooms too, Now THAT was an original story
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TBH that kind of sounds like a Jack Vance short story.
Posted by: I'm just sayin' at October 08, 2019

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It's older than that -- William Hope Hodgson's "The Voice in the Night." I read it in the Sixties in an Alfred Hitchcock collection, and it was old even then.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at October 08, 2019 02:50 PM (ClOmq)

355 But a love story unlocks the ability of the reader to relate to the story in different ways. It is the key to getting the reader invested.

Sure, and I think a love story makes a good book even better (if well done, at least). But stories that are ONLY love stories are dull and have little drama. That's why every 'romance' has a contrived complication or irrational set of mistaken circumstances, just to make the story work. Romances on their own: meh. Romances in another story: great.

So, even if he was too narrow in focus (which I don't disagree with) or too dogmatic (his embrace of Freudianism is off putting), his ability to get writers to think about structure at all is a great contribution.

I agree, and if that's all it did, I would have less problem with it. But people take it like a paint by numbers method of writing, you just plug in your pieces and go!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:50 PM (KZzsI)

356 He is probably pushing television to try and lower the intelligence of his enemy, conservatives.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 08, 2019 02:50 PM (YslsA)

357 I really do like original stories, even though they're hard to find. For instance, that Japanese movie where they were stranded on a desert island, and they slowly discovered that all of the crew on this lost ship they found had turned into giant walking mushroom, and then they all turned into giant mushrooms too, Now THAT was an original story.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM

Ah...Creature Double Feature on Saturday afternoons in the 70s.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 08, 2019 02:50 PM (ejd/p)

358 Never watched it but what story is Man in the High Castle

Alternate Universe Man vs Man?
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (NqZ29)
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It reuses Dick's characters and some subplots for a wholly different story.

Posted by: Kevin at October 08, 2019 02:50 PM (DuZls)

359 I thought the concept of Yesterday was brilliant (mostly because I also thought of it years ago) but of course the script and direction sucked donkey dicks.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:50 PM (NqZ29)

360 333 Oh, blaster....
Posted by: The Barrel at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (ejd/p)

Hey I did my time.

And someone shined a UV light in there. Looke like someone vomited milk everywhere.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (9VeU0)

361 334
Man vs. Hobo

Posted by: Fritz at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (2Mnv1)

Man v. Bubble Gum and Asses to be kicked.

Posted by: Ogre at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (jYnPD)

362 -
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In my opinion, that was the absolute weakest part of
her stories. Each of the other two houses had problems and strengths,
virtues which they expressed and drawbacks. But Syltherin was just all
bad. They were always the villains. They were whole heartedly evil.
They had zero redeeming characteristics. There was no Slytherin who was
virtuous and strong because of their principles.

That's just weak characterization.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM

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Hey!

Posted by: Snape at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (pMGkg)

363 A few, like Feynman, are quite good at it.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (vWMNq)

I love listening to the Feynman lecture.

Posted by: Flyover at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (B5K06)

364 I always figured Alice smelled of dirty water that waitresses never change when wiping down counters and table tops in resturants. You can smell the fecal matter from the wipe down.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (yRAFu)

365 Bad Psychopass was still better than a lot of other shows. Season 1 just set a very high bar. True Detective had the same problem.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (oZ6kz)

366 If we're talking about what he wrote, then he's already won.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (xfb67)

367 Cthulhu loves the world and wants to return to it.

Posted by: Axeman at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (DuZls)

368 In my opinion, that was the absolute weakest part of her stories. Each of the other two houses had problems and strengths, virtues which they expressed and drawbacks. But Syltherin was just all bad. They were always the villains. They were whole heartedly evil. They had zero redeeming characteristics. There was no Slytherin who was virtuous and strong because of their principles.

That's just weak characterization.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM (KZzsI)

Oh, they're not all evil, you know. But *wink* *wink*...

Seriously. I want a story told back in 1200 or whenever Hogwarts was founded and wizards are being persecuted by muggles and Salazar Slytherin realizes that it's for everyone's good that they live so completely apart from the rest of humanity. I want literal witchhunts and muggles enslaving the wizards for their magic.

Then I want the Ministry of Magic in present day to open things up, because Diversity and Inclusiveness, and for everything to go wrong on both sides because there was clearly a reason why you cut yourselves off in the first place, you idiots.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (KUaJL)

369 329 Note that it is estimated that 2/3rds of the class composition of
"Elite" Universities consists of Legacy admits and Affirmative Action
admits.

It pays for the others who belong there.

Peter Thiel does a good indictment of the education system here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JRyy2MM-rI

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (vWMNq)

370 Pretty much everything produced for television since 1995 is unwatchable crap.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (YslsA)

371 Isn't watching Mork & Mindy more or less the equivalent of winning the Nobel Prize in cosmology?

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (hdzef)

372 "Winter is coming
welp, put on a sweater kthxbai"

Jimmy Carter versus the White Wabbits

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (WF3jy)

373 362
That's just weak characterization.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:47 PM

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Hey!

Posted by: Snape at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (pMGkg)

=========

It was all about creating red herrings that she sustained over mostly 7 books.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (q80AH)

374 "Mickaël Harpon, who stabbed three police officers and a woman civil servant to death before he was killed at Paris police headquarters on October 3rd, was a radical Islamist with a top secret security clearance and access to all computers in the police prefecture's directorate of intelligence, known as the DRPP. The DRPP is responsible for the surveillance of suspected radical Islamists. Yet Harpon continued to work there, even as he showed signs of radicalisation. This mind-boggling fact has shaken President Emmanuel Macron's administration."

Posted by: Neo at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (3aI0K)

375 Ah, but you see, by conflating the two very different sets of "elite",
Williamson is able to mock the hoi polloi for being stupid.

SEE ALSO: the conflation of "immigrant" and "illegal immigrant."

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (rP4OC)

376 I would watch more Television but I have been just so busy with this Physics Nobel Prize for neutrino research application I just haven't had time.

It's like I'm not even trying to keep up, sorry.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (3FJ8v)

377 While Williamson is rightly reviled for wishing death on the white working class, that wasn't his most stupid commentary. No, that dishonor belongs to "Peak Leftism," written about five years ago. Williamson predicted way back then that the left-wing insanity had reached the tipping point and would soon end.

Meh. I've been told how the next great overstep by the Left would be their downfall - and all that was required was to stand back and watch - for my entire damn life, by all the usual perfectly respectable suspects.

Williamson is, if anything, completely typical.

Posted by: Hope Springs Eternal at October 08, 2019 02:52 PM (DQRtz)

378
I really do like original stories, even though they're hard to find. For instance, that Japanese movie where they were stranded on a desert island, and they slowly discovered that all of the crew on this lost ship they found had turned into giant walking mushroom, and then they all turned into giant mushrooms too, Now THAT was an original story
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TBH that kind of sounds like a Jack Vance short story.
Posted by: I'm just sayin' at October 08, 2019 02:48 PM (95SOk)

And owes a debt to Kafka and The Metamorphosis.

Nothing new under the sun.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2019 02:52 PM (veoSD)

379 I really do like original stories, even though they're hard to find. For instance, that Japanese movie where they were stranded on a desert island, and they slowly discovered that all of the crew on this lost ship they found had turned into giant walking mushroom, and then they all turned into giant mushrooms too, Now THAT was an original story

I remember watching that movie when I was a kid. It would show up on weekend afternoons. It freaked me out. Maybe a 60's era Japanese movie? Been a while since I've seen it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 08, 2019 02:52 PM (VFal0)

380 Important reminder while we ponder the stupidity that is telling conservatives to watch popular tv shows and faking science knowledge to burnish your elite cred: Kevin Williams was so extremely extreme that he made female writers at The Atlantic feel "unsafe."

Posted by: Lizzy at October 08, 2019 02:52 PM (bDqIh)

381 379
I remember watching that movie when I was a kid. It would show up on weekend afternoons. It freaked me out. Maybe a 60's era Japanese movie? Been a while since I've seen it.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 08, 2019 02:52 PM (VFal0)

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SOMEONE might have already named it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:52 PM (q80AH)

382
You let your woman borrow your credit cards, YD? What a mensch!
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:41 PM (oZ6kz)

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Sadly, I can't buy it like Kevin. I have to work for it

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 08, 2019 02:53 PM (ggmC1)

383 oh I don't remember that.

I'm with you, but I barely remember any of the movie. I can think of three scenes: Bond in that abandoned Japanese island city, Bond in a sewer being attacked in a way that the bad guy could not possibly have known he was there or when to trigger the attack, and that interminable sequence of fighting over his old family home in the middle of a huge field.

Who the hell builds a house in the middle of an empty field and never has any trees, yard, fences, or signs of human habitation other than the building? It was like they airdropped the home into the heather, without any context. Its a place nobody ever lived, just a building.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:53 PM (KZzsI)

384 Nothing is redeemable about television. In the past 10 years there was one series that got my interest, and it is loaded on my iPad for viewing anytime, and...that's as far as I will go.

It's interesting to see Mr. Williamson acting like a HS English teacher (you know, the ones who couldn't dare let a story be a story and cajoled his/her class to look for the symbolisms and the themes and thereby proceeded to suck the joy of reading said story from you, IF there was joy to begin with) about television. What intellectual wankery. I will say this: as a boy growing up in that era, I watched my share of TV in the 1980s, but all that did was set me up to be entirely turned off by it. By the time the 1990s came around, I was done with TV and just stopped watching because I found very little, if anything, interesting or compelling about it. Besides, there is just so much else to do that is better than just watching TV. (Weird, huh?) Beyond sporting events (and MNF last night sucked, except for seeing how far along the 49ers have come along), why have a TV? Even the local news outside weather is bad, especially as the ABC affiliate just repackages the national news and broadcasts it like it's an original, compelling broadcast.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 08, 2019 02:53 PM (spW7w)

385 "The Beverly Hillbillies.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (0t+fn)"

My parents, who moved to upper middle class California from humble midwest/south origins in the early 1960s, absolutely loved the Beverly Hillibillies. Father even joked about the "Concrete Swimming Holes" in people's backyards.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:53 PM (ujg0T)

386 Williamson went to the University of Texas, Austin. He isn't even remotely credentialed, therefore he cannot be elite by any measure.
Hot tip Kevin: Living in Manhattan doesn't make you "elite." lol.

Posted by: dagny at October 08, 2019 02:53 PM (nRWPy)

387 Speaking of fake conservatives...

Ellen was at a Cowboys football game. She commited a worse than Hitler sin, in talking with George W. Bush who was also at the game. SJWs went crazy of course. And Ellen's response was "hey I can be civil to a **CONSERVATIVE** Republican and enjoy the game".

Which was pretty cool of her to say, instead of the knee jerk apology to the Twatter mob that is all too common. But it's hilarious that the left still thinks Dubya (and probably Mittens) is conservative.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 02:54 PM (FiUMj)

388 Teacher, teacher!...TEACHER!!!!!

You know the rules Mr. Sock Monkey, raise your hand if you have a question.

* raises hand

Yes?

What the fook are Theoretical discoveries???

Posted by: Sock Monkey....posting cautiously because the squirrels are agitated at October 08, 2019 02:54 PM (Lp+bg)

389 364 I always figured Alice smelled of dirty water that waitresses never change when wiping down counters and table tops in resturants. You can smell the fecal matter from the wipe down.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (yRAFu)

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o_O

Posted by: SMH at October 08, 2019 02:54 PM (RU4sa)

390 388 Teacher, teacher!...TEACHER!!!!!

You know the rules Mr. Sock Monkey, raise your hand if you have a question.

* raises hand

Yes?

What the fook are Theoretical discoveries???
Posted by: Sock Monkey....posting cautiously because the squirrels are agitated at October 08, 2019 02:54 PM (Lp+bg)

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The math checked out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:54 PM (q80AH)

391 And Ellen's response was "hey I can be civil to a **CONSERVATIVE** Republican and enjoy the game".

Her actual sin was saying that she could be civil to Cowboys fans.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 08, 2019 02:54 PM (ZGrMX)

392 It's older than that -- William Hope Hodgson's "The Voice in the Night." I read it in the Sixties in an Alfred Hitchcock collection, and it was old even then.
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If you like Hodgson try Awake in the Night Land by John C. Wright.

Posted by: I'm just sayin' at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (95SOk)

393 dark matter is getting annoying.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo
........

Hey.. it's had 4 billion years to learn how to hide really well! It's an expert at it now.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (438dO)

394 SOMEONE might have already named it.

I'm lazy. I apologize for nothing! I'll look it up later. Maybe.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (VFal0)

395 354 328 I really do like original stories, even though they're hard to find. For instance, that Japanese movie where they were stranded on a desert island, and they slowly discovered that all of the crew on this lost ship they found had turned into giant walking mushroom, and then they all turned into giant mushrooms too, Now THAT was an original story
=====
TBH that kind of sounds like a Jack Vance short story.
Posted by: I'm just sayin' at October 08, 2019

*
*

It's older than that -- William Hope Hodgson's "The Voice in the Night." I read it in the Sixties in an Alfred Hitchcock collection, and it was old even then.
Posted by: Maxwell Smart at October 08, 2019 02:50 PM (ClOmq)

I never heard of that story before, and just looked it up. Hitchcock included it in his "Stories They Wouldn't Let Me Do on TV" horror anthology but later made it into his short-lived "Suspicion" series.

Posted by: josephistan at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (Izzlo)

396 Snape was literally evil, blackmailed into doing the right thing out of love for a woman he wasn't good enough to have.

Another myth being destroyed by MAGA and Trump? That we have an elite class.

I think we once did, but the destruction of education in the country plus the iconoclasm frenzy of the 60s ruined all that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (KZzsI)

397 Only watched the first season of Game of Thrones. They did a great job in both casting and effects.

Casting Sean Bean as Ned Stark should have been a tell to even those who did not read the book. Only liked the first book I stopped reading after book three.

I did however get a great deal of schadenfreude watching fan reaction to both the Red Wedding and the final season.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (B06Zw)

398 Peebles has published several books on cosmology that are considered classics in the field, and his upcoming book, "Cosmology's Century, An Inside History of Our Modern Understanding of the Universe," will come out in June 2020 from Princeton University Press.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (vEIlU)

399 309 Never watched it but what story is Man in the High Castle

Alternate Universe Man vs Man?
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:46 PM (NqZ29)

Man Vs Castle!

This is a good counterpoint example to bring up. Man in the High Castle is 'What if?' writ large.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (ycWCI)

400 The first episode of Cop Craft sort of put me off with the other dimension alien loli princess girl.

But there have been a few shows lately that were really good even though they had no right to be - Rascal Does Not Dream and Domestic Girlfriend.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (oZ6kz)

401 Seems like the Canuck-American Peebles had a hand in most cosmology research since the Bell Labs guys picked up background cosmic radiation in their microwave test rig. The cool thing is they couldn't account for the stray signal interfering with their bouncing microwaves off of satellites. One theory blamed pigeons roosting and pooping in the detector.

Peebles also pushed dark matter early in its hypothesis stage. And many other things.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (e1mEI)

402 Turns out, Ellen is still intelligent. It will be her downfall. Can't wait for the videos.

Posted by: klaftern at October 08, 2019 02:56 PM (RuIsu)

403 "Mickal Harpon, who stabbed three police officers and a woman civil servant to death before he was killed at Paris police headquarters on October 3rd, was a radical Islamist with a top secret security clearance and access to all computers in the police prefecture's directorate of intelligence, known as the DRPP. The DRPP is responsible for the surveillance of suspected radical Islamists. Yet Harpon continued to work there, even as he showed signs of radicalisation. This mind-boggling fact has shaken President Emmanuel Macron's administration."
Posted by: Neo at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (3aI0K)

Yeah well the elites say that it had nothing to do with terrorism so shut up hater.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:56 PM (9VeU0)

404 Kevin pretends to read Sciencey stuff

If you're not in the field, there is no way you can read the primary literature with any comprehension. Many times if you're not in the SUBfield, you can't read the primary literature with any comprehension.

Pace social scientists, it's not because real scientists invent jargon to render the obvious obscure. It's because they're dealing with new things that were not known to anyone, and most certainly are not obvious to anyone, least of laymen. New concepts necessitate new words to avoid lengthy circumlocutions. Reading the primary literature in an unfamiliar field is like watching installment 23 of a complicated show you haven't seen before. Who is this guy? Why is he doing this? What's going on? What do they mean by that? What happened before?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2019 02:56 PM (auq4b)

405 396 Snape was literally evil, blackmailed into doing the right thing out of love for a woman he wasn't good enough to have.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 02:55 PM (KZzsI)

In JK Rawling's sophomoric philosophy, doing something "for love" is the strongest possible moral reason to do anything.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:56 PM (KUaJL)

406 I tried watching Game of Thrones. Watched 2 or 3 episodes and just wasn't into it. I tried again a few years later, started from the beginning and same thing. I wanted to like it since everyone else was into it, but not my bag baby.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (FiUMj)

407 Another myth being destroyed by MAGA and Trump? That we have an elite class.

I think we once did, but the destruction of education in the country plus the iconoclasm frenzy of the 60s ruined all that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Yep. They retooled "education" to create a mass of easily led imbeciles, forgetting the whole time that was their pool of future talent. Oops.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, not in the 'stan at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (AM1GF)

408 401 Peebles also pushed dark matter early in its hypothesis stage.

Everyone makes a few mistakes.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (vWMNq)

409 Dude was born and raised in West Texas, he's about as elite as an Armadillo.

Not saying people from West Texas are hicks but it's not like this clown was born in Kenyebunkport or The Hamptuns with a silver dick in his mouth.

Come to think of it...

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (Ad3Y8)

410 FINALLY.

Senate to invite Guiliani to testify about Ukraine.

Been wondering when the Senate would get off there ass and play a bit of OFFENSE.

Posted by: Don Q at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (NgKpN)

411 405
In JK Rawling's sophomoric philosophy, doing something "for love" is the strongest possible moral reason to do anything.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:56 PM (KUaJL)

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"Voldemort tried to kill Harry out of love."
-Latest Rowling retcon

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (q80AH)

412 With the best fictional gun ever.

You can get a replica for a mere $1300.

https://is.gd/dckV6W

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (O7MnT)

413 dark matter is getting annoying.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo

#DarkMatterMatters

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (auq4b)

414 I can't wait to see KW's reaction when he finds out that Princeton is in... NEW JERSEY!

Posted by: kbdabear at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (qAR6u)

415 >>>
It's older than that -- William Hope Hodgson's "The Voice in the Night." I read it in the Sixties in an Alfred Hitchcock collection, and it was old even then.

imma read this

unless there's a Netflix series based on this. Then I'll watch that, with my good friend Kevin D. Williamson.

Posted by: ace at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (PbpT7)

416 "Voldemort tried to kill Harry out of love."
-Latest Rowling retcon
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (q80AH)

Well, she already did retcon to say that Voldemort had a kid with Bellatrix....

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (KUaJL)

417 I can name on one hand the TV shows I watched until recently. Even now, I only watch series, never movies, on some pay station or other. And I only do that to have something on in the background while working on my tapestry, so I hear TV, but never really see it. The last thing I remember watching was the Friday night line up of the Brady Bunch, Partridge Family, and Love American Style plus Star Trek reruns.

Posted by: dagny at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (nRWPy)

418 406 I tried watching Game of Thrones. Watched 2 or 3 episodes and just wasn't into it. I tried again a few years later, started from the beginning and same thing. I wanted to like it since everyone else was into it, but not my bag baby.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (FiUMj)

I did not even make it through 4 episodes of Season 1. Just could not get enthused.

Posted by: IC at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (a0IVu)

419 Sadly, I can't buy it like Kevin. I have to work for it

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

The boys at The Dispatch are rolling up the crack hoes and huffin' blow off their asses as we speak! $6M buys a lot Mish from Huggy Bear...

Posted by: Boswell at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (32YRo)

420 Father even joked about the "Concrete Swimming Holes" in people's backyards.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:53 PM (ujg0T)

bzzzt

Cement pond.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (9VeU0)

421 410 FINALLY.

Senate to invite Guiliani to testify about Ukraine.

Been wondering when the Senate would get off there ass and play a bit of OFFENSE.
Posted by: Don Q at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (NgKpN)

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Popcorn time?

Posted by: SMH at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (RU4sa)

422 And someone shined a UV light in there. Looke like someone vomited milk everywhere.
Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM

That's not milk.

Posted by: Bob from CSI-AoSHQ at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (DMUuz)

423
They probably don't even buy into "intelligent design," either.

Oh, the old "you have to be an atheist to be a good scientist" ploy.

By that criterion:

Bad scientist: Georges Lemaitre

Good scientist: Trofim Lysenko

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (7rVsF)

424 Both of which, by the way, dealt with modern topics (e.g., immigration, nonbinary genders, respectively) without beating the viewer over the head with "MESSAGE MESSAGE GET THIS MESSAGE MESSAGE MESSAGE."

So.. the opposite of 'The Orville.'

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (O7MnT)

425 409 Dude was born and raised in West Texas, he's about as elite as an Armadillo.

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Some of the most virulent hates of conservatives are people who grew up in conservative areas. Kinda like ex smokers who hate smokers with a passion of a 1000 burning suns.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (FiUMj)

426 Harry Potter and the Catcher's Mitt?

Posted by: klaftern at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (RuIsu)

427 VTK: I've seen that - and with the Jeopardy money I'm almost tempted. But I can't justify spending 1.3k on a cosplay prop.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (oZ6kz)

428 dark matter is getting annoying.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo

It's just repackaged aether.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (wCmLp)

429 416 "Voldemort tried to kill Harry out of love."
-Latest Rowling retcon
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:57 PM (q80AH)

Well, she already did retcon to say that Voldemort had a kid with Bellatrix....
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (KUaJL)

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And that Hermione was black.

Her fans sending her screenshots of the girl's description as having fair skin and red hair was amusing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (q80AH)

430 dark matter is getting annoying.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo
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Sounds like a dark matter.

Posted by: Axeman at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (DuZls)

431 I will note that Williamson is, unlike most TruCon grifters of the Goldbergian/Hayes class, actually against abortion.

Now, his reasons for being against abortion boil down to narcissism (i.e., permitting abortion means less people like Kevin Williamson), but in my book it's better to favor the right thing for the wrong reason than vice versa.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (hdzef)

432 U.S. discloses ruling last year by Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that FBI's data queries of U.S. citizens were unconstitutional

Posted by: SMOD at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (3aI0K)

433
It's older than that -- William Hope Hodgson's "The Voice in the Night." I read it in the Sixties in an Alfred Hitchcock collection, and it was old even then.
Posted by: Maxwell Smart at October 08, 2019 02:50 PM (ClOmq)

I never heard of that story before, and just looked it up. Hitchcock included it in his "Stories They Wouldn't Let Me Do on TV" horror anthology but later made it into his short-lived "Suspicion" series.
Posted by: josephistan at October 08, 2019

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The "Stories They Wouldn't Let Me Do on TV" collections are terrific. "Sredni Vashtar" by Saki is another one (but it *was* done on TV in the early '60s), and Edward Lucas White's "Lukundoo."

I learned a lot about short story writing by reading those anthologies, and I still have my paperback editions of some of them.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (ClOmq)

434 Best show on TV is Aerial America if you ignore most of the Liberal narration.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at October 08, 2019 02:39 PM (NqZ29)
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YES! Yeah you can tell when he's about to head into white man bad and it's safe to go to the fridge.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (Xvo1a)

435 Ace, might you consider taking a break from reading assorted never Trumpers over at Twitter? It might lower your stress level.

After all, they're not going to change unless it's expedient for them to do so. As Francois Fenelon says, "Let the river flow beneath its bridges, Let people be themselves; weak, vain, inconstant , unjust, false, presumptuous. Let the world be the world in other words. You cannot hinder it. Let everybody follow their natural inclination and habits. You cannot remold them. It is easier to leave them alone and bear with them.

I'm not sure how religious you are, but this is what he also says, "Abide tranquilly in God's bosom* He sees all the evils more clearly than you do, yet he allows them. be content with doing well what little depends on you..."

* Note on this reading, ''Patience Under Contradictions from the collected works of Fenelon says, "We must keep this advice in perspective. This is not counsel to irresponsible passivity, but of letting go of the urge to control, or to fret uselessly over what we cannot change

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (j0JAA)

436 Speaking of TV, we get new Rick & Morty next month.

https://youtu.be/Rw6BrzB1drs

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (O7MnT)

437 Netflix has a series called the Last Czars. Only 6 episodes but pretty good telling of how and why Russia descended into communist hell.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (FiUMj)

438 I will always remember the movie that made me love Creature Features forever - I was barely 4 years old, got to stay overnight in a hospital since I had my tonsils out (except for the inconvenience, I thought it was pretty fun) and we had a tv in our room, and they put on a movie that showed me a Giant Octopus attacking San Francisco. I was entranced by the image of these giant tentacles waving over the wharf district, trying to scoop the terrified people up, and I knew that THIS was by far the Bestest Movie I had Ever SEEN! IT began a life long love affair for me with the genre. That one, and Jason and the Argonauts, with it's smiling, sword wielding killer skeletons.

I love Ray Harryhausen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (Kpl3J)

439 The matter really isn't dark, per se, just kinda' edgy.

Posted by: Hope Springs Eternal at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (DQRtz)

440 In JK Rawling's sophomoric philosophy, doing something "for love" is the strongest possible moral reason to do anything.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:56 PM

You say that like it's a Bad Thing.

Posted by: Marianne Williamson at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (DMUuz)

441 KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON
Who?

Posted by: DocJ at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (77WPm)

442 Anyone at Princeton who met Kevin "University of Texas, Austin" Williamson would wash their hands vigorously. He seems to have no idea how not-elite he is. Neither does Jonah Goucher College Goldberg.

These wannabes are particularly loathsome because they WANT IT too much.

Posted by: dagny at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (nRWPy)

443 431
I will note that Williamson is, unlike most TruCon grifters of the Goldbergian/Hayes class, actually against abortion.

IIRC, he's very pro gay.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (vWMNq)

444 Game of Thrones only gets going after the first season. The final season is also crap. The HBO suits were a bad influence on the show.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (Vf/Bs)

445 Well this is interesting.

Court finds that using a FISA to spy on Americans without a warrant violates American's 4th Amendment rights.

https://tinyurl.com/y483p7ly

Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (ZLI7S)

446 Kinda like ex smokers who hate smokers with a passion of a 1000 burning suns.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (FiUMj)

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Huh.

I'm an ex-smoker who's married to a smoker.

I'm supposed to hate him now?

Posted by: SMH at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (RU4sa)

447 437 Netflix has a series called the Last Czars. Only 6 episodes but pretty good telling of how and why Russia descended into communist hell.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (FiUMj)

The Story of Vodka?

Posted by: Roy at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (cD09y)

448 I live in an area that started getting Muslim immigrants in the late '70's so the sight of a woman with a headscarf is not unusual to me.
But this morning I saw a gaggle of women with full black burkhas--slits for the eyes--and it was disconcerting.

Then it made me angry.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (NFEMn)

449 Man vs. Festivus Pole

and btw, I saw Kevin Williamson drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's

but his hair wasn't perfect

Posted by: Andersonville Cooper Vanderbilt Gettysburg at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (8KSPd)

450 I fucking love science!

Gilligan made a bamboo island taxi out of coconuts and palm fronds.

Posted by: Harold Hecuba at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (2Mnv1)

451 Watched "Kin" on Netflix because it promised to be sci-fi adventure.

Except it is dumb. Dumb dumb dumb.

Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (9VeU0)

452 Huh.

I'm an ex-smoker who's married to a smoker.

I'm supposed to hate him now?
Posted by: SMH at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (RU4sa)

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YES!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (FiUMj)

453 Well, she already did retcon to say that Voldemort had a kid with Bellatrix....

Well she has to set up future novels and sequels after all.

Game of Thrones only gets going after the first season.

The books are the same way. The first one is really long and kinda boring.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (KZzsI)

454 KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON
Who?
Posted by: DocJ at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (77WPm)

The "D" stand for douche.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (NFEMn)

455 It is sad, yet hilarious, how many people like Williamson are absolutely convinced of the Big Bang Theory, yet can't come remotely close to explaining it or defending it.
Same goes for evolution.

Posted by: Ted K. at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (FJYfm)

456 It's older than that -- William Hope Hodgson's "The Voice in the Night." I read it in the Sixties in an Alfred Hitchcock collection, and it was old even then.

imma read this

unless there's a Netflix series based on this. Then I'll watch that, with my good friend Kevin D. Williamson.

Posted by: ace
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it'll curl your toes.

Heres another recommendation -but its not a library book for those that are interested.

Awake in the Night Land is a book that collects four loosely connected stories, set in the world of William Hope Hodgson's The Night Land. It is available on Amazon and in a DRM-free version from Castalia House. It is set in the distant future when the Sun has gone out and the world is in an eternal night.

Happy Halloween.

Posted by: I'm just sayin' at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (2oYc3)

457 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (Zz0t1)

458 Appalling.

Posted by: Ana Navarro's Ball-peen Bunions at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (Pzzpr)

459
The math checked out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera

I'll say it again. You are not invited to game night.

Posted by: Sock Monkey....sent to the Principal's office for using the F word at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (Lp+bg)

460 KW really is Maureen Dowd. Both came from working class backgrounds and because they constantly suffer from status anxiety, they have to go out of their way to disparage the class they are trying to move out of.

And both are TV addicts, but they see deep things in every word of the scripts those icky deplorables can't.

Posted by: kbdabear at October 08, 2019 03:03 PM (qAR6u)

461 It was all about creating red herrings that she sustained over mostly 7 books.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 02:51 PM (q80AH)

Seemed to me more like ripping off Dan Brown's style, or at least the style of the one book I managed to slog through. Always teasing at an answer but never going there directly so you turned to the next chapter (or book in her case). A trick to get you to keep reading because you want an answer. Seems like they don't have enough confidence in either their characters or story to trust you to keep reading.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at October 08, 2019 03:03 PM (kUmUV)

462 448 I live in an area that started getting Muslim immigrants in the late '70's so the sight of a woman with a headscarf is not unusual to me.
But this morning I saw a gaggle of women with full black burkhas--slits for the eyes--and it was disconcerting.

Then it made me angry.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (NFEMn)

___

You should avoid flying through either MSP or DTW. Trust me on this one.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 03:03 PM (FiUMj)

463 436 Speaking of TV, we get new Rick & Morty next month.

https://youtu.be/Rw6BrzB1drs
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 03:00 PM (O7MnT)

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Only 5 episodes...

Oh well. I'll take it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with that Kubrick look towards the camera at October 08, 2019 03:03 PM (q80AH)

464 In JK Rawling's sophomoric philosophy, doing something "for love" is the strongest possible moral reason to do anything.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:56 PM

You get that she's writing a Christian story, right? Does she even know that, IDK? Of course she's saying that "love" is the compelling force, that's the entire point of the greatest story ever told. She's just retelling it.

Posted by: dagny at October 08, 2019 03:03 PM (nRWPy)

465 428 dark matter is getting annoying.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo

It's just repackaged aether.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (wCmLp)

Congealed phlogiston.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2019 03:03 PM (auq4b)

466 Well fuck me sideways with a pitchfork- Ace is taking on the worse of the worst- again, Kevin Dooshbag Williamson. I just mentioned Ace's epic takedown of the bald, perpetually angry at the circumstances of his upbringing blowhard this morning.

I haven't watched much TV in , well, All my life. I hated MASH, my mother loved it. But I do know America could use more Al Bundy right about now.

Posted by: Where are the indictments at October 08, 2019 03:03 PM (Bf3hj)

467 I'm sorry.

Who?

Posted by: Sponge at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

468 415 >>>
It's older than that -- William Hope Hodgson's "The Voice in the Night." I read it in the Sixties in an Alfred Hitchcock collection, and it was old even then.

imma read this

unless there's a Netflix series based on this. Then I'll watch that, with my good friend Kevin D. Williamson.
Posted by: ace at October 08, 2019

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Ace, seriously, look for some of the *old* Hitchcock anthologies from 1948 to about 1962. Some were horror/terror stories, some plain suspense, some a mix of both with the occasional SF story mixed in. The later ones after about '62 were all collections of crime stories shoveled straight from the mystery magazine into paperback, but the early ones were great.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (ClOmq)

469 It is sad, yet hilarious, how many people like Williamson are absolutely convinced of the Big Bang Theory, yet can't come remotely close to explaining it or defending it.

It's simple.

13 billion years ago nothing existed.

Then, something happened.

And then everything suddenly existed.

Including time itself.

Simple.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (O7MnT)

470 lol LL.

You a funneh dude.

Posted by: SMH at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (RU4sa)

471 The KW types are like people who have a little bit of money, but try to pretend they're rich. And actual rich people laugh at them.

Same with the true elites. They laugh and peons like KW.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (FiUMj)

472 283 Oh, you know what occurred to me a while ago?

In Harry Potter, the Slytherin House is basically just a liberal caricature of conservatives.

I've got half a mind to tell a story in the HP universe where the Slytherin people aren't all Evil for Evil's sake, but they're the people who are worried about maintaining a tradition and don't want to tear down Chesterton's fence between the wizard and the muggle world.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:44 PM (KUaJL)

I actually think Slytherin is unintentionally a pretty good analogy for Islam. Not every Slytherin is a Death Eater, but the Death Eaters all tend to come from the same house, and most of that house agrees with Voldemort's goals if not the methods...

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (N4xQB)

473 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (ycWCI)

474 I was entranced by the image of these giant tentacles waving over the wharf district, trying to scoop the terrified people up, and I knew that THIS was by far the Bestest Movie I had Ever SEEN! IT began a life long love affair for me with the genre.
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OH MY GAWD!!!! ME TOOO!!!!!

Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (Rsye6)

475 421
410 FINALLY.

Senate to invite Guiliani to testify about Ukraine.

He gave Stephanopoulos a good beating a couple of nights ago. He also said, on Fox, that he and Trump are going on offense now that Mueller is done. They've blown up the whistle-blower story pretty quickly.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (vWMNq)

476 dark matter is getting annoying.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo
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Sounds like a dark matter.
Posted by: Axeman at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM

The Dark Side is more powerful than you imagine.

Posted by: Darth V. at October 08, 2019 03:05 PM (DMUuz)

477 It is sad, yet hilarious, how many people like Williamson are absolutely convinced of the Big Bang Theory, yet can't come remotely close to explaining it or defending it.

It's simple.

13 billion years ago nothing existed.

Then, something happened.

And then everything suddenly existed.

Including time itself.

Simple.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (O7MnT)

Kind of like Russian Collusion, and now Ukraine.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 03:05 PM (NFEMn)

478 KW really is Maureen Dowd. Both came from working class backgrounds and because they constantly suffer from status anxiety, they have to go out of their way to disparage the class they are trying to move out of.

Bespeaks profound insecurity.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2019 03:05 PM (auq4b)

479 In JK Rawling's sophomoric philosophy, doing something "for love" is the strongest possible moral reason to do anything.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 08, 2019 02:56 PM
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That's a bad take. Rawling portrays a world of magic power, where love is the strongest power. It's not just calling something "love", it is the effect of love.

Ultimately V is defeated by Lilly's love for Harry and Snape's love for Lilly.

Posted by: Axeman at October 08, 2019 03:05 PM (DuZls)

480 dark matter is getting annoying.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo

It's just repackaged aether.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (wCmLp)

Congealed phlogiston.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Black light to the VIP Room! Stat!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2019 03:05 PM (0t+fn)

481 Most of what I've seen of Game of Thrones are youtube compilations of "the Hound" cursing. Enjoyed that.

Posted by: irright at October 08, 2019 03:06 PM (pMGkg)

482 You should avoid flying through either MSP or DTW. Trust me on this one.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 03:03 PM (FiUMj)

Or BOS, or DCA, or...
Seriously, when did we decide that was a good idea? I fucking hate with the white-hot intensity of 1000-suns damn-near everything about flying in the first place, and now I have to be reminded every damn time I walk through an airport somewhere that adherents to The Religion Of Peace(tm) murdered 3,000 of my fellow countrymen on a late-summer day in 2001 by, ahem, hijacking airplanes.

Posted by: DocJ at October 08, 2019 03:06 PM (77WPm)

483 Some of the most virulent hates of conservatives are people who grew up in conservative areas. Kinda like ex smokers who hate smokers with a passion of a 1000 burning suns.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 08, 2019 02:59 PM (FiUMj)

Daddy issues, anyone? Not surprisingly, Williamson hates both his parents, in fact hates his entire family. He's spent his life taking out his personal failures on the rest of us.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019 03:06 PM (Kpl3J)

484 I am a scientist and I did science today. My lunch is over and now I will do more.

Mostly it's data entry with some musing over what the data means... very exciting, very very exciting.

Well, okay, I tend to think it's sort of exciting, like a big puzzle without an instruction sheet.

But it's also why I tend to be less than impressed with I F**king Love Science types. They'd HATE science if they ever had to actually do any. (Yes, by "science" I mean "research" but the thing is the process and the process is the thing, so bite me.)

Posted by: Synova at October 08, 2019 03:06 PM (BD/yx)

485 It is sad, yet hilarious, how many people like Williamson are absolutely
convinced of the Big Bang Theory, yet can't come remotely close to
explaining it or defending it.

It's simple.

13 billion years ago nothing existed.

Then, something happened.

And then everything suddenly existed.

Including time itself.

Simple.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 08, 2019 03:04 PM (O7MnT)

Some God did something.

Posted by: DocJ at October 08, 2019 03:07 PM (77WPm)

486 ***Williamson went to the University of Texas, Austin. He isn't even remotely credentialed, therefore he cannot be elite by any measure.
Hot tip Kevin: Living in Manhattan doesn't make you "elite." lol

Posted by: dagny at October 08, 2019 02:53 PM (nRWPy)***

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Well, the elite, at least in part, is aspirational. You're part of it because you identify with it. This is why acceptance is so important to the Williamsons, Frenches and Goldbergs in media circles, and McCains, Romneys and Flakes in politics/public service ones.

Also, Kevin is an 80s kid. We thought wearing a Members Only jacket meant we were exclusive . . . somehow.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at October 08, 2019 03:07 PM (xmKbk)

487 I love Ray Harryhausen.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 08, 2019

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Recently I got to see 20 Million Miles to Earth for the first time in years. That lizard creature, and the fact that it grows from an egg into this colossal beast, still holds up. And then RH's Medusa in the original Clash of the Titans -- darn, what a creepy and effective scene!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2019 03:07 PM (ClOmq)

488 Williamson is all in with our Hollywood writer overlords controlling our culture. NRO has always been a gatekeeper for The Liberal Order. Their only real function is to label all of us Simpson's watching cretins, who don't understand the important connection between HBO's GOT & molecular biology.

Posted by: Where are the indictments at October 08, 2019 03:07 PM (Bf3hj)

489 It is sad, yet hilarious, how many people like Williamson are absolutely
convinced of the Big Bang Theory, yet can't come remotely close to
explaining it or defending it.

Same goes for evolution.

One of Aquinas' proofs of the Existence of God is the unmoved mover. Why he thinks the Big Bang is antithetical to religion, idk. You'd think that someone who so desperately wants to be "elite" would know that science seeks to explain how we're here and religion seeks to explain why we're here. It's relatively low intellect and denotes an incomplete ontology to substitute nihilism for either science or existential philosophy. Nitwit.

Posted by: dagny at October 08, 2019 03:08 PM (nRWPy)

490 Particle man vs Triangle man

Posted by: Beckoningchasm at October 08, 2019 03:08 PM (eV2wC)

491 I thought the entirety of the Big Bang Theory could be explained by some guy wearing a jewel-encrusted gauntlet snapping his fingers, or something.

Posted by: DocJ at October 08, 2019 03:08 PM (77WPm)

492 469 It's simple.

13 billion years ago nothing existed.

Then, something happened.

Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_David_Kruskal

See the two paragraphs on general relativity under Research. This work goes some way to explaining how the big bang can be properly understood.

I never worked through the math though. GR not my field.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:09 PM (vWMNq)

493 Popcorn time?
Posted by: SMH

My popcorn is staying on the shelf until I see indictments.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...given detention...again. at October 08, 2019 03:09 PM (Lp+bg)

494 Goodness, look at that: a couple of dodgy Europeans and @@#$%! immigrant at Princeton!
__________

And I bet that Princeton immigrant was an illegal alien, er I mean "undocumented Democratic voter" too, right Kevs?

'Cuz we all know how brilliant and accomplished those swarms of third-worlders flooding across our border are, at least according to our ever-so-well-informed "elites" like Kevs.

The only reason us knuckle-dragging deplorables resist the mass invasion of our country, and the huge ass-reaming that we taxpayers take to support it, is because we be a buncha ignorant bigots and xenophobes who just can't appreciate the tremendous value that millions of uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking, hostile, law-breaking foreigners add to our nation's fabric, right Kevs?

So let's compromise: every illegal alien who wins a Nobel prize in a hard science can stay in the U.S.

See Kevs, we conservatives can be "enlightened" too!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 08, 2019 03:10 PM (k4dH2)

495 I'm so late to the previous thread that we're at 500 comments in the next thread, but ace deserves a Pulitzer prize and a gift card to Applebees for "expansion team newsletter.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 08, 2019 03:10 PM (yL25O)

496 Hey, that dark matter thing? Just particle/wave transitions popping up into the reality of space-time from that which shall not be named. Next Hadron Collider experiment will collapse the universe into a pinpoint that can support 13.3333333_ angels.
Trust me, done the racist math.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 08, 2019 03:10 PM (e1mEI)

497 "Let the river flow beneath its bridges, Let people be themselves; weak, vain, inconstant , unjust, false, presumptuous. Let the world be the world in other words. You cannot hinder it. Let everybody follow their natural inclination and habits. You cannot remold them. It is easier to leave them alone and bear with them."

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This is powerful advice, that I should hear and consider.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 08, 2019 03:10 PM (ggmC1)

498 420 Father even joked about the "Concrete Swimming Holes" in people's backyards.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 02:53 PM (ujg0T)

bzzzt

Cement pond.
Posted by: blaster at October 08, 2019 02:58 PM (9VeU0)

Didn't Jethro use one term and Jed the other? It has been a long time; my memory fades.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 08, 2019 03:10 PM (ujg0T)

499 Daisy Duke -Catherine Bach <3

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 08, 2019 03:11 PM (BqBId)

500 498 Didn't Jethro use one term and Jed the other? It has been a long time; my memory fades.

I only remember cement pond ...

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:11 PM (vWMNq)

501 I live in an area that started getting Muslim immigrants in the late '70's so the sight of a woman with a headscarf is not unusual to me.
But this morning I saw a gaggle of women with full black burkhas--slits for the eyes--and it was disconcerting.

Then it made me angry.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2019 03:01 PM (NFEMn)

I have been noticing more and more in my area but what is interesting is, we have a retirement community nearby and in just the past couple weeks, I see the elderly literally staring down these women with the headscarves. It's weird to watch. Yesterday I saw a man stare at one in the grocery store and was angry and shaking his head.

About a week ago, I watched an elderly couple watching and staring at a muslim dressed woman as she walked across the parking lot. They literally stood their ground and watched her as she walked. I didn't know what they were watching at first but then realized, and I went into the store as they kept watching with angry looks on their faces.

Our area had a lot of refugees dumped here too.

The world is getting messy.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 08, 2019 03:11 PM (vEIlU)

502 477 It is sad, yet hilarious, how many people like Williamson are absolutely convinced of the Big Bang Theory, yet can't come remotely close to explaining it or defending it.

I'll say it until I die, because I've seen it with my own two eyes.

Most people do not think things over, weigh it out, and reach their worldview - the shit they believe to be true - based on reason.

Nope - they hear some shit they like the sound of - nod - and say, Yep ... that's the way it is.

It's all faith. And you can't argue faith. Faith is a dangerous thing.

Posted by: Hope Springs Eternal at October 08, 2019 03:11 PM (09tFn)

503 the elite, at least in part, is aspirational.

That's the middle-class who is aspirational. The elite are credentialed at a bare minimum, there are even levels of 'elite' depending on credentialism. You'll note that even making billions doesn't credential you unless you also have the degree AND accept the ideas of the elites. Williamson doesn't have the credentials, the degree, and has a record of not agreeing with their ideas. He's hoping to force himself into the role by screaming that he gets it!! They won't care. They see him like you might a dirty homeless guy screaming on the street corner.

Posted by: dagny at October 08, 2019 03:12 PM (nRWPy)

504 Synova

*high five

Posted by: Sheldon at October 08, 2019 03:12 PM (Lp+bg)

505 Also, Kevin is an 80s kid. We thought wearing a Members Only jacket meant we were exclusive . . . somehow.
Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at October 08, 2019 03:07 PM (xmKbk)

...

Don't forget Ocean Pacific.

Oh, and Jams.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 08, 2019 03:13 PM (yL25O)

506 455 It is sad, yet hilarious, how many people like Williamson are absolutely convinced of the Big Bang Theory, yet can't come remotely close to explaining it or defending it.
Same goes for evolution.
Posted by: Ted K. at October 08, 2019 03:02 PM (FJYfm)

What's even more hilarious is that when you dive into the latest theories about the origin of the universe (well, multiverse now), they revolve around an infinite energy source that constantly churns out new universes with different physical properties.

These uncreative cretins have yet to realize is that all you have to do is ascribe consciousness to this source, and you're back to God again.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 08, 2019 03:13 PM (J+mig)

507
First Squawk @FirstSquawk
4m
FED'S EVANS SAYS HE WOULDN'T MIND ANOTHER INTEREST RATE CUT

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 08, 2019 03:14 PM (BqBId)

508 504 Synova

*high five
Posted by: Sheldon at October 08, 2019 03:12 PM (Lp+bg)

Posted by: Synova at October 08, 2019 03:14 PM (BD/yx)

509 Trudeau might have been fired from a teaching gig for sleeping with a 17yo.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 08, 2019 02:23 PM (CQ3Qb)

So how is Elizabeth Warren involved in this?

How do you think she got preggers at that first teaching gig when she was 17?

Posted by: Well there's that at October 08, 2019 03:14 PM (KoBpR)

510 See the two paragraphs on general relativity under Research. This work goes some way to explaining how the big bang can be properly understood.

I never worked through the math though. GR not my field.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:09 PM (vWMNq)
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The problem comes when you equivocate and call something that is far from "out" and "plain" an ex-plan-ation. Just so that you can whack some entities with Ockham's Razor.

You've entered in thought the door of Mumbo-Jumbo.

Posted by: Axeman at October 08, 2019 03:14 PM (DuZls)

511 Williamson doesn't have the credentials, the degree, and has a record of not agreeing with their ideas. He's hoping to force himself into the role by screaming that he gets it!! They won't care. They see him like you might a dirty homeless guy screaming on the street corner.
Posted by: dagny at October 08, 2019 03:12 PM (nRWPy)

...

At least I'm screaming on one of your better street corners, not that you conservatives would even understand.

Posted by: Kevin Williams, inconsolable at October 08, 2019 03:15 PM (yL25O)

512 These uncreative cretins have yet to realize is that
all you have to do is ascribe consciousness to this source, and you're
back to God again.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 08, 2019 03:13 PM (J+mig)

Why spoil the surprise for them?

Posted by: DocJ at October 08, 2019 03:16 PM (77WPm)

513 nood courts

Posted by: DocJ at October 08, 2019 03:17 PM (77WPm)

514 I've been a huge fan of William Hope Hodgsen for years.

His "The House on the Borderlands" is one of my top 10 faves in weird horror.

Published in 1908 and it's still amazing as hell.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 08, 2019 03:18 PM (sPIZM)

515 But it's also why I tend to be less than impressed with I F**king Love Science types. They'd HATE science if they ever had to actually do any. (Yes, by "science" I mean "research" but the thing is the process and the process is the thing, so bite me.)
Posted by: Synova at October 08, 2019 03:06 PM (BD/yx)

...

I mostly refused to do science because of the lack of assurances that I would never have to smell certain organic chemicals. Yeeesh. My dad's lab always reeked.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 08, 2019 03:19 PM (yL25O)

516 510 You've entered in thought the door of Mumbo-Jumbo.

The short explanation is that when you transform coordinates into the frame of an object falling into a black-hole, then the object never gets there. From the external universe the object falls into the hole in a finite time. These are the Kruskal-Schwarzchild coordinates.

So if you could go back in time to the big bang, you'd never get there although from our perspective it happened a finite time ago.

Last paragraph is mine. First paragraph I heard from someone who was familiar with Kruskal's work and also from Kruskal himself.

But I never learned to do the math ... too busy doing other math.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:19 PM (vWMNq)

517 Suppose for a second that the big bang explains space and time, matter and gravity etc. Of course in order for the Big Bang to occur it had to be possible for that to happen. Now, in order for that possibility to exist it couldn't depend on anything natural - because nothing natural existed. So that has to be a super natural possibility. A Super Natural Possibility... sounds like God to me.

Posted by: Well there's that at October 08, 2019 03:19 PM (KoBpR)

518 One of Aquinas' proofs of the Existence of God is the unmoved mover. Why he thinks the Big Bang is antithetical to religion, idk.

As I recall, the origin of the Big Bang theory was a Roman Catholic priest.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 08, 2019 03:21 PM (KZzsI)

519 https://washex.am/2Mn5NxT
*******
Whistleblower had tie to Democratic candidate

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 08, 2019 03:23 PM (BqBId)

520 517
Suppose for a second that the big bang explains space and time, matter and gravity etc.

The big bang explains nothing. It is a story about an observation. The time matter and gravity etc. is the theory required to explain the details observed. All a scientist can do is come up with a better mouse trap.

Dark matter is a consequence of inadequacies of the theory, IMO. Or perhaps someone will come up with more convincing evidence that it is really there.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:23 PM (vWMNq)

521 518 As I recall, the origin of the Big Bang theory was a Roman Catholic priest.

Teilhard de Chardin.

Much despised by traditionalist Catholics.

Actually, IIRC, it was Fred Hoyle ... who meant it as a joke.

Feynman used to go over to Britain and hang out with Hoyle on his holidays. There are videos of them off to a pub on youtube.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:26 PM (vWMNq)

522 460 KW really is Maureen Dowd. Both came from working class backgrounds and because they constantly suffer from status anxiety, they have to go out of their way to disparage the class they are trying to move out of.

Except that since about 90% of people work, and they themselves work, they are "working class".

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 08, 2019 03:26 PM (spW7w)

523 So if you could go back in time to the big bang, you'd never get there although from our perspective it happened a finite time ago.
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Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. We are in the continuum of the occurrence of the BB in our universe. It was a finite time ago within our reckoning, then it would suggest that time wasn't elongated without bounds in the way we measure time, i.e. in regard to our space-time.

Posted by: Craig Livingstone, the Spontaneous Self-hire at October 08, 2019 03:29 PM (DuZls)

524 Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense.

Special and General Relativity are hard.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:30 PM (vWMNq)

525 Let's talk about falling into a black hole. The acceleration of an object in a gravitational field is independent of its mass. Which means the fact that an object gains mass as its velocity increases the acceleration of the object is unchanged by that increase in mass.

Since a black hole is defined as a place which has an escape velocity greater than the speed of light, and since objects obtain escape velocity when they fall far enough in a gravitational field - that means objects falling into a black hole will reach a velocity greater than the speed of light - fall right through the black hole and escape from the other side.

Posted by: Well there's that at October 08, 2019 03:32 PM (KoBpR)

526 503 the elite, at least in part, is aspirational.

That's the middle-class who is aspirational. The elite are credentialed at a bare minimum, there are even levels of 'elite' depending on credentialism. You'll note that even making billions doesn't credential you unless you also have the degree AND accept the ideas of the elites. Williamson doesn't have the credentials, the degree, and has a record of not agreeing with their ideas. He's hoping to force himself into the role by screaming that he gets it!! They won't care. They see him like you might a dirty homeless guy screaming on the street corner.
Posted by: dagny at October 08, 2019 03:12 PM (nRWPy)

As Rush said once, there are two kinds of people: those who hated HS and wanted it to end, and another who wants HS to go on forever. Guess where the elites and Mr. Williamson lie?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 08, 2019 03:32 PM (spW7w)

527 lol!
Kevin, like me, is West Texas oilfield trash and lived in the exact same hippie student shithole at UT that I did.

Some fucking "Elite"..

Posted by: TexasJrw at October 08, 2019 03:34 PM (c+cGk)

528 Conservatives Should Watch More Television
........

Like 90 Day Fiance?

Posted by: wth at October 08, 2019 03:35 PM (v0R5T)

529 525 Posted by: Well there's that at October 08, 2019 03:32 PM (KoBpR)

That's not really how it works. We know that it's (SR + GR) true (in some sense) because we can calculate the consequences. For example GR corrections are required to make GPS systems work. The corrections (in time) are tiny but because the speed of light is large, the spatial corrections are not small.

The difficulty with black holes is that the theory becomes singular (things become inifinite) and the math required becomes difficult. Steven Hawkings wrote a book about this and I have a copy but I've never had the time to learn enough math to read it properly ... when I was a student, I thought I might.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:36 PM (vWMNq)

530 s/b "Hawking".

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:39 PM (vWMNq)

531 I thought Fred Hoyle was the steady-state guy.

Posted by: Beckoningchasm at October 08, 2019 03:41 PM (eV2wC)

532 531
I thought Fred Hoyle was the steady-state guy.

Yes, but I believe he coined "big bang" in an attempt to insult the other side (in a friendly way) and ended up having to eat his words.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:42 PM (vWMNq)

533 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hoyle

He coined the term "Big Bang" on BBC radio's Third Programme broadcast on 28 March 1949. It was popularly reported by George Gamov
and his opponents that Hoyle intended to be pejorative, and the script
from which he read aloud was interpreted by his opponents to be "vain,
one-sided, insulting, not worthy of the BBC".[23]
Hoyle explicitly denied that he was being insulting and said it was
just a striking image meant to emphasize the difference between the two
theories for the radio audience.[24]

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:44 PM (vWMNq)

534
That's not really how it works. We know that it's (SR + GR) true (in
some sense) because we can calculate the consequences. For example GR
corrections are required to make GPS systems work. The corrections (in
time) are tiny but because the speed of light is large, the spatial
corrections are not small.
While what you said is true it has nothing to do with what I said, and what I described really is exactly how it does work.
The 'infinities' involved are not actually infinities. One divided by zero does not equal infinity, it is all values from + infinity to -infinity all at the same time. That is God's little trick for making things work; you select what ever value makes things give the result you need from that noise and that is what the universe actually does.

Posted by: Well there's that at October 08, 2019 03:46 PM (KoBpR)

535 Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense.

Special and General Relativity are hard.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:30 PM (vWMNq)
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Hard, but not impossible. What you described holds two states as true in the same observer frame. That the universe was banged out, boundless in elongated time, and yet it happened, in the same context, a finite amount of time ago.

I understand that there is always some magic math that is supposed to put things together, but people can't rule out limiters beyond the forces that they chart.

Posted by: Craig Livingstone, the Spontaneous Self-hire at October 08, 2019 03:47 PM (DuZls)

536 534 The 'infinities' involved are not actually infinities.

Um. Yes they are. This is what Steven Hawking is known for. He proved it.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:48 PM (vWMNq)

537 I rarely watch regular American content (and if I do, it's usually because my mom wants to watch something in English) and prefer to watch Youtube or Korean TV (which is... spotty in quality, especially with the rise of SJW nonsense lately, but the variety shows can be fun, as long as you don't read any comments by viewers).

I'm getting kind of tired of people telling me how great Joker is, btw. It's not my thing and I hate movies like it (all the comparisons are to things such as Taxi Driver).

There are a few American films out that I'll watch (Shazam! was pretty good, all other recent comic films kind of suck, though), but most of it is just trash. TV itself is horrible and preachy. I honestly don't know what is running on the regular channels aside from shows that should have been canceled 10 years ago while they were still good (*cough*Modern Family*cough*).

Posted by: soulpile at October 08, 2019 03:48 PM (rwZk1)

538 535 I understand that there is always some magic math

The math involved in special relativity is not "magic" nor particularly difficult. The consequences *are* extremely profound. General Relativity (except for black holes) is the opposite. The theory is a small correction to SR but the math is a nightmare.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:51 PM (vWMNq)

539 Um. Yes they are. This is what Steven Hawking is known for. He proved it.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:48 PM (vWMNq)
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Hawking is somebody that deliberately tried to leverage a limitation of knowledge as a platform of knowledge.

In fact, I find that Hawking completely fudged any understandable thing such as velocity or position. Perhaps this is just an artifact of him using colloquial words to describe things--but colloquial words are exactly those things that create "explanations".

Posted by: Axeman at October 08, 2019 03:53 PM (DuZls)

540 They probably don't even buy into intelligent design either

it sure is coincidental that all this cosmology stuff results in a process that produces GOLD.

Posted by: x at October 08, 2019 03:55 PM (nFwvY)

541 In case this hasn't been mentioned

Youtube has much better stuff, be it original content, or be it any of 1000's of documentaries on-demand.

TV can be educational. But not stuff on cable and the networks, largely speaking.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 08, 2019 02:22 PM (jYnPD)

I went on YouTube a couple days ago looking for either of two documentaries on the history of Muscle Shoals recording studios and everything has been put in preview mode where you only get about 90 seconds before it stops. Maybe there's a way to sign up to see the rest of it but in the past both of them played full length with one click.

Don't get me started on how Life, Liberty and Levin are all two seconds. Fuckers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 08, 2019 03:56 PM (y7DUB)

542 539 In fact, I find that Hawking completely fudged any understandable thing such as velocity or position.

That would be in his work on the evaporation of black holes, which is quantum mechanics. "Fudging" velocity and position is *required* by the theory.

Actually, the "fudging" is in the *interpretation* of the theory --- there is a wikipedia page on such interpretations. Last time I checked there were 20 different ones.

IMO the fudging is unnecessary --- and it's absent in some of the theories. The reason it arose is that people have a very difficult time understanding statistics so they "explain" them away. But then there is Bell's Theorem which says that, in some sense, I am wrong. Another one of those things I never had time to study properly.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 03:58 PM (vWMNq)

543 The math involved in special relativity is not "magic" nor particularly difficult. The consequences *are* extremely profound. General Relativity (except for black holes) is the opposite. The theory is a small correction to SR but the math is a nightmare.
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I'm not denigrating the math, really. I'm just saying that often explanations from math aren't.

It describes relationships of observable forces, but it can't eliminate unknown exterior forces that we can't even begin to chart, so whether or not those forces are free to be entirely in the linear relationship as described by the most cutting-edge math is an unanswerable question.

Posted by: Axeman at October 08, 2019 04:00 PM (DuZls)

544 543 I'm not denigrating the math, really. I'm just saying that often explanations from math aren't.

It describes relationships of observable forces

That is not math. It's statics.

In a general sense, math is used to model things. In physics those things are simple explanations of the real world.

Mathematicians spend their time proving that the math is correct (true). AKA "theorems".

Physicists mostly calculate the consequences of the math as it applies to a real world situation. If there is disagreement, then either the calculation is wrong (rare) or the application is wrong (usually) or the mathematicians got the theorems wrong (also rare).

One can use math to model mathematical concepts as well. This is how the concept of "infinity" can be properly understood but at a cost of discovering philosophical paradoxes, which are not subject to scientific analysis.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 04:07 PM (vWMNq)

545 The singularity in a black hole is exactly a division by zero problem; the density of an object is its mass divided by its volume. When the volume goes to zero the density of the object becomes a division by zero problem - the result is Not A Number; it is all values from +infinity to -infinity all at the same time and all in the same space. As I said earlier.

Posted by: Well there's that at October 08, 2019 04:09 PM (KoBpR)

546 That would be in his work on the evaporation of black holes, which is quantum mechanics. "Fudging" velocity and position is *required* by the theory.
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If a particle cannot have position and velocity at the same time, then what does it mean to have position and not velocity? 0-velocity--no Hawking says because that would give it a position-and-velocity at the same instance.

Hawking actually uses that a particle cannot have a position and zero velocity to explain "blackhole radiation".

I'm sorry if you think this is a case where I have to be further initiated into the process to realize the truth of it, but I don't understand what it is to have position and not velocity--and NOT zero-velocity either. Because velocity is a rate of change of position over time. To have no velocity would mean to have a no rate of change, or 0 velocity.

Posted by: Axeman at October 08, 2019 04:09 PM (DuZls)

547 This post is a work of art.

Posted by: Mike Yerian at October 08, 2019 04:12 PM (MOTel)

548 Hawking says because that would give it a position-and-velocity at the same instance.
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This is the Copenhagen interpretation of QM. I believe it is incorrect but almost all physicists accept it. I am a Copenhagen-denier, if you like.

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I'm sorry if you think this is a case where I have to be further
initiated into the process to realize the truth of it, but I don't
understand what it is to have position and not velocity--and NOT
zero-velocity either.
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The problem is that you cannot precisely *measure* both momentum and position simultaneously. This is realized in Einstein's 1905 paper on the photo-electric effect, and earlier, in Planck's derivation of the black-body radiation curve in 1900. It took a further 20+ years to develop the theory to model these things completely (and other experiments of the time) and in the process all sorts of stories needed to be invented to explain the math.

The reason you cannot precisely measure "complementary" properties is that you have to measure them with *something*. In doing so you bounce photons off them and *change* the things complementary to the ones you are measuring. Measuring position changes momentum by some amount. If the thing you are measuring is small (say, an atom) then the response to the measurement may be large (relatively).

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 04:17 PM (vWMNq)

549 Sorry I need to stop now. I am way behind on a project for a client and they are going to be very disappointed if I don't get things done.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 04:19 PM (vWMNq)

550 I thought Breaking Bad was a reimagining of Welcome Back, Kotter.

Posted by: Paco at October 08, 2019 04:20 PM (+VUl0)

551

I haven't owned a TV in years, and haven't paid for cable in years.

Why would anyone want to watch TV, especially that which is produced today with it's sly Marxist content, and hugely unfunny subjects.

Good on him, more fucking TV.

But thinking about the universe, and the vastness of it, it seems so difficult to ascribe the creation to a point of density, and then to have the creation of life and everything just happen consequently, as if planned. Perhaps that's just philosophy, but death will take us all, and the universe continues without a care, existing in it's limitlessness. What is after infinity, what is after our life...

Gotta love the thoughts middle-age brings...

Posted by: Rev. Dr. Joe Biden at October 08, 2019 04:22 PM (M/BaK)

552 Hawking used the observational problem known as Heisenberg Uncertainty as a bedrock platform of unobserved behavior (whether or not it's observable).

Heisenberg is a statement about what can be established through verification. Any unobserved or unobservable conjunction is fully in that range of things we cannot know for sure under the Heisenberg principle.

Posted by: Axeman at October 08, 2019 04:23 PM (DuZls)

553 I don't know if Williamson is truly stupid, or simply thinks we are.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at October 08, 2019 04:26 PM (jWe5r)

554 The problem is that you cannot precisely *measure* both momentum and position simultaneously. This is realized in Einstein's 1905 paper on the photo-electric effect, and earlier, in Planck's derivation of the black-body radiation curve in 1900. It took a further 20+ years to develop the theory to model these things completely (and other experiments of the time) and in the process all sorts of stories needed to be invented to explain the math.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 04:17 PM (vWMNq)
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Yup.
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The reason you cannot precisely measure "complementary" properties is that you have to measure them with *something*. In doing so you bounce photons off them and *change* the things complementary to the ones you are measuring.
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Exactly.
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Measuring position changes momentum by some amount. If the thing you are measuring is small (say, an atom) then the response to the measurement may be large (relatively).
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Now explain the part to me that we must know something about states we can only know part of?

All that you related there clearly establishes that the Heisenberg Uncertainty is about problems with manifesting observation and complete verification. It has an observational effect.

Hawking leverages that to a flat assumption about unobserved and unobservable instances.

Posted by: Axeman at October 08, 2019 04:30 PM (DuZls)

555 The reason you cannot precisely measure "complementary" properties is
that you have to measure them with *something*. In doing so you bounce
photons off them and *change* the things complementary to the ones you
are measuring. Measuring position changes momentum by some amount. If
the thing you are measuring is small (say, an atom) then the response to
the measurement may be large (relatively).

All of that happened because Heisenberg had never heard of dark field microscopy - which allows one to see objects smaller than one wave length of light with visible light. It behaves in a very classical fashion in that to see smaller objects one simply turns up the intensity of the light instead of decreasing its wavelength. In addition dark field microscopy does not produce diffraction fringes around the object. The information missing in the conventional microscopic view shows up in dark field microscopy. The Heisenberg uncertainty of location and velocity both disappear in the dark field method of using a microscope.

Posted by: Well there's that at October 08, 2019 04:31 PM (KoBpR)

556 I never realized he's fat because he has one of those not-fat heads grafted onto the lump part.

Posted by: Estelle Getty's Taint at October 08, 2019 04:31 PM (ft1QJ)

557 552 Heisenberg Uncertainty

That is what I explained in comment 548.

The evaporating black hole thing also involved thermodynamics, which is real mumbo-jumbo but is unfortunately one of the most precise physical theories. While GR is hard on its own, combining Thermo, GR, and QM, is a recipe for sleepless nights, if you really want to understand the theory.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 04:33 PM (vWMNq)

558 KevWill has become one of the fish in the barrel.

Posted by: Sapwolf at October 08, 2019 04:35 PM (PRyLN)

559 555 Heisenberg uncertainty of location and velocity both disappear in the dark field method of using a microscope.

I doubt very much this is true.

Nothing mentioned here:

https://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/techniques/darkfield.html

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 04:40 PM (vWMNq)

560
Kevin is SOOOOO not invited to my militia. LOL

How do they get in these tight small bubbles so easily and not get out more. Dont' they want to get out? Go for a walk dude, or lunch with a friend.

Hey Einstein, not to be confused with the lovable smart golden retriever from "Watchers" by D. Koontz (just finished it), study conservatism first and all the various ...variations and then come back here.

HINT: all the strains of Globalism are highly against our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, human nature, liberty, and common sense.

And....just because somebody reaches out with there hand to give you good stuff, doesn't mean you shouldn't bite it. Cause that string is a foot thick and your soul is worth more.

Posted by: Sapwolf at October 08, 2019 04:45 PM (PRyLN)

561 554 Now explain the part to me that we must know something about states we can only know part of?

All that you related there clearly establishes that the Heisenberg
Uncertainty is about problems with manifesting observation and complete
verification. It has an observational effect.

Hawking leverages that to a flat assumption about unobserved and unobservable instances.
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Hawking is using "entanglement". It relies on the Copenhagen interpretation and is related to Bell's Theorem. As I have stated, I don't believe the first and I don't understand the second.

Hawking's "theory" is really a story about what *would* happen to black holes over billions of years. All I know that his peers appear to have become less skeptical over the years since he introduced it. Some of his peers are very bright --- I've even met a few of them. One of them calls himself a fantasy-physicist.

But it's just a story. As physics it is convincing to other physicists. Hawking is pretty good on physics. Much less so on politics.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 04:48 PM (vWMNq)

562 I doubt very much this is true.

Nothing mentioned here:
Of course it isn't. The people who use Dark Field microscopy are not physicists, and they never bother talking to physicists, and don't know what is important to people in other fields.
Everything I said is absolutely true. I have investigated it, and that is how it works.

Dark field was used before electron microscopes existed to image the spirochete - which is smaller than a wavelength of visible light. The spiral structure from which the organism gets its name is clearly visible in such an optical microscope.

Posted by: Well there's that at October 08, 2019 04:53 PM (KoBpR)

563 Light has both wave and particle properties. When you use a microscope in the conventional fashion you detect the wave properties of the light. When you use it in the Dark Field method you see the particle like properties of the light and those do not include diffraction patterns - which are wave properties.

Posted by: Well there's that at October 08, 2019 05:02 PM (KoBpR)

564 HINT: all the strains of Globalism are highly against our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, human nature, liberty, and common sense.

I have a valid passport and have been beyond the borders of the United States. This alone makes me a Globalist and therefore an Enemy of the State.

(Well, no one seems remotely willing to explain what a "globalist" is...)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 08, 2019 05:23 PM (spW7w)

565 I remember when the podcast was still going and Ace had Kevin Williamson as a guest, and all he could talk about was his watch fetish...the guy is really masking his extreme sense of insecurity with a solid veneer, of pretentious uptight asshole.

Posted by: TJ at October 08, 2019 05:27 PM (Lhsat)

566 Ace, last time I listened to Williamson on his podcast with @RedSteez, they pointed out that Williamson is actually black.

Having never seen a reasonably good photo of him, I have no way to know.

Posted by: K-Bob at October 08, 2019 05:31 PM (Ea7D7)

567 562 Everything I said is absolutely true. I have investigated it, and that is how it works.

I believe you are mistaken. This article gives a reasonably coherent explanation of the problem that dark field microscopy solves and how it works:

https://tinyurl.com/yxnpwu5z

No mention of "particle properties of light". Light under conditions described by *classical* physics behaves as waves.

Dark field microscopy does not seem to be a field for which a description from a quantum-mechanical viewpoint is either necessary or useful.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 08, 2019 05:52 PM (vWMNq)

568 I had the misfortune of actually seeing a few minutes of Threes Company that my sister was watching. Where is the brain bleach?
Worst no-live-sex pornographic dreck ever. I doubt that PornHub has anything that bad that doesn't have vomit or scat in the description.

Posted by: FlimFlammed at October 08, 2019 07:12 PM (ZTDnL)

569 "Go fuck yourself, you bloated hugely-fat low-rent white-trash poser."

You know, I always thought he was black. I think there's some kind of reverse Shaun King going on with him. I do.

Nevertheless, love the bashing, it is well deserved. There are NO WORDS to describe how much I love this blog these days, and how important it is.

Posted by: jocon307 at October 08, 2019 11:12 PM (HYa+m)

570 "A Dance Tribute to Cosmology, maybe."

Perhaps Rosie O'Donnell and Michael Moore dancing around each other trying to attract as many tiny Robert DeNiro look-alikes as possible.

Posted by: Warmongerel at October 09, 2019 02:10 AM (PiUZp)

571 For those Morons interested in a simple explanation of the cosmology, go here - https://phys.org/news/2019-10-nobel-prize-physics-awarded-scientists.html

I'm a retired Physics teacher, so have experience explaining stuff like this. Below is a link to some recorded videos, if you'd like more background on Peebles' discoveries.

http://pirsa.org/index.php?p=speaker&name=Jim_Peebles

PIRSA.ORG is the Perimeter Institute. I've attended workshops put on by them for physics teachers. They do a really good job of outreach to the teaching community and general public. You can browse around the main site to see more. Look under the submenus Outreach and Video Library.

https://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/

Posted by: Linda Fox at October 09, 2019 07:32 AM (3uqJZ)

572 Love your blog but Kevin Williamson would destroy you in a fist fight. Process that.

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