"Anti"Fa Attacks Two <i>Hispanic</i> Marines, Accusing Them of Being White Supremacists

"Anti"Fa Attacks Two Hispanic Marines, Accusing Them of Being White Supremacists

As Amber Athey notes, Don Lemon's and Chris Cuomo's defense of "Anti"Fa isn't aging very well.

Two U.S. Marines testified last week that they were attacked by a "mob" of Antifa members who mistook them for participants in a right-wing rally in November.
Alejandro Godinez and Luis Torres testified in a Philadelphia, PA courtroom that they were attending a local event for Marines last month when they were confronted by members of Antifa, including suspects Thomas Massey and Tom Keenan.
Keenan allegedly demanded to know if Godinez and Torres were members of the Proud Boys, a right-wing group that was demonstrating nearby at the time. Godinez explained that he and Torres are Marines, but said that, nonetheless, the group of 10 to 12 Antifa members began mercilessly attacking them.
According to the Marines’ testimony, their attackers started calling them "Nazis" and "white supremacists" while they punched and kicked them. Godinez shouted, "I'm Mexican!" which allegedly caused the attackers to start calling them ethnic slurs like "spic" and "wetback."
Godinez said he was maced, punched in the head and kicked in the ribs. When the attack was over, Torres called 911 and the pair went to the hospital. Godinez still reportedly has eye issues from being maced and said he may need surgery in the future to deal with his other injuries.

John Sexton already wrote this up on Friday. He also wondered anew when CNN would correct Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo and declare that antifa is indeed a violent mob.

And, on this subject, if you read one post today, make it Sexton's post on a former leftist radical explaining the lunacy that he was once part of. You can check that post out for key excerpts plus an interview on Tucker (though note, he's an intellectual type, not a performer; some will find his television manner dry), and if you like those quotes do read his entire essay at Quillette. It's a very insightful piece.

Unfortunately, toxicity in radical communities is not a bug. It is a feature. The ideology and norms of radicalism have evolved to produce toxic, paranoid, depressed subjects. What follows is a picture of what happens in communities that are passionately, sincerely, radically woke, as seen from the perspective of an apostate.
Faith
Commentators have accurately noted how social justice seems to take the form of a religion. This captures the meaning and fulfilment I found in protests and occupations. It also captures how, outside of these harrowing festivals, everyday life in radical communities is mundane but pious. As a radical activist, much of my time was devoted to proselytizing. Non-anarchists were like pagans to be converted through zines and wheatpasted posters rather than by Bible and baptism. When non-radicals listened to my assertions that nazis deserved death, that all life had devolved into spectacle, and that monogamy was a capitalist social construct, they were probably bewildered instead of enticed.
Instead of developing a relationship to God and a recognition of one's own imperfection, we wanted our non-anarchist families and friends to develop their "analysis" and recognize their complicity in the evil of capitalism. These non-anarchist friends grew increasingly sparse the longer I was an anarchist. They didn't see how terrible the world was, and they used problematic language that revealed hopelessly bad politics. Frustrated with them, I retreated further and further into the grey echo-chamber of my "chosen family."
Trent Eady says of his own radicalism in Montreal, "When I was part of groups like this, everyone was on exactly the same page about a suspiciously large range of issues." When my friends and I did have theoretical disagreements, they tended towards the purely strategic or to philosophical minutiae. Are cops human? If we pay attention to the few white nationalists in town, will that stir them up? Is polyamory queer, or privileged?
Deep and sincere engagement with opposing points of view is out of the question. Radicalism is like a clan too suspicious of outsiders to abandon cousin marriage, and, like incestuous offspring, radicalism's intellectual offspring accumulate genetic load.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:26 PM

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1 st?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 17, 2018 07:25 PM (zJ7J0)

2
More white Hispanics!

Posted by: Growth market at December 17, 2018 07:26 PM (Am8Sm)

3 and i boldly plant the flag!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 17, 2018 07:26 PM (zJ7J0)

4 ah shit... my save tags ruined it for everyone.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 17, 2018 07:26 PM (zJ7J0)

5 they are going to try this shit one day with someone who is CCW,. and be *very* surprised...

at least the survivors will be.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 17, 2018 07:27 PM (zJ7J0)

6 Life at hard labor. (We should bring back hard labor, some of these a-holes really need it).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 17, 2018 07:30 PM (fqUgw)

7 Avoid this environment.

Posted by: Golfman at December 17, 2018 07:30 PM (GL/05)

8 The Sturmabteilung lives on.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2018 07:30 PM (NWiLs)

9 6 Life at hard labor. (We should bring back hard labor, some of these a-holes really need it).
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 17, 2018 07:30 PM (fqUgw)

We do have a wall to build...

Talk about Justice.

Posted by: Don Q at December 17, 2018 07:31 PM (NgKpN)

10 Sexton wants to know if Cuomo and Lemon will call AntiFa a mob?

Maybe he should ask the rest of the writers at Hot Air first.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 17, 2018 07:31 PM (0QYMt)

11 7 Avoid this environment.
Posted by: Golfman at December 17, 2018 07:30 PM (GL/05)

How? The Marines were going to a Marine function.

Posted by: Don Q at December 17, 2018 07:32 PM (NgKpN)

12 When can we just put the antifa shit and BLM on the same shelf as ISIS and Al Whatsis?

Posted by: JEM at December 17, 2018 07:32 PM (8erNz)

13 We could have been the Bold and the Beutiful.Thanks redc1c4.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 17, 2018 07:32 PM (0QYMt)

14 ife at hard labor. (We should bring back hard labor, some of these a-holes really need it).
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 17, 2018 07:30 PM (fqUgw)

A poor girl crossing a half a continent would fare better.

Posted by: Golfman at December 17, 2018 07:32 PM (GL/05)

15 Faith

YUHP

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 17, 2018 07:33 PM (ZejZP)

16 How? The Marines were going to a Marine function.
Posted by: Don Q at December 17, 2018 07:32 PM (NgKpN)

Noted. Sad.

Posted by: Golfman at December 17, 2018 07:34 PM (GL/05)

17 Antifa is a HATE group!

Posted by: redridinghood at December 17, 2018 07:34 PM (hECVl)

18 we wanted our non-anarchist families and friends to develop their "analysis" and recognize their complicity in the evil of capitalism

Yo, according to Marxian theory I AM okay with a bit of anarchy.

Posted by: Creative Destruction at December 17, 2018 07:34 PM (786Ro)

19 How did Don Lemon find a job where being a drooling imbecile is a requirement?

Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at December 17, 2018 07:35 PM (eAMlh)

20 Antifa is a HATE group!
Posted by: redridinghood at December 17, 2018 07:34 PM (hECVl)

Just a terrorist group.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 17, 2018 07:35 PM (1g7ch)

21 They aren't "right wing" so it's all good.

Posted by: steevy at December 17, 2018 07:36 PM (BXMxN)

22 White hispanics shoot young dindoo nuffins in dey haid. This is known.

Posted by: Eromero at December 17, 2018 07:36 PM (zLDYs)

23 How? The Marines were going to a Marine function.Posted by: Don Q at December 17, 2018 07:32 PM (NgKpN)

Noted. Sad.
Posted by: Golfman at December 17, 2018 07:34 PM (GL/05)

You may not be interested in Antifa, but Antifa is interested in you.

Posted by: Shit An Old Greek Would Have Said at December 17, 2018 07:37 PM (WQMJ4)

24 White Hispanics were at the Alamo

Posted by: torabora at December 17, 2018 07:37 PM (qkPKq)

25 ding ding ding
ding ding ding

https://twitter.com/fluff/status/
1074210939786846209

Posted by: kitteh wanting a nood at December 17, 2018 07:37 PM (Evws/)

26 I don't expect crazy people to be rational but a good asskicking will give them a clue.

Posted by: fr at December 17, 2018 07:37 PM (UdKB7)

27 Antifa are domestic terrorists... will Democrats denounce or embrace them?

Posted by: redridinghood at December 17, 2018 07:37 PM (hECVl)

28 22 Boy did we jump the gun when we heard the name Zimmerman..
The MFM

Posted by: steevy at December 17, 2018 07:37 PM (BXMxN)

29 Compared to SJWs, the Lizard People aren't looking so bad.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at December 17, 2018 07:38 PM (kbXFS)

30 Were they Bi-reptilian? aka Jewish-Hispanic?

Posted by: Don Lemon - Dual Class White Hate & White Penis Expert at December 17, 2018 07:38 PM (aqpW6)

31 ah shit... my save tags ruined it for everyone.
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 17, 2018 07:26 PM (zJ7J0

-----

Save tags are a base and callow barrel-avoidance tactic.

Even if Pixy can't see what you're doing, G-d still can.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 17, 2018 07:38 PM (5aX2M)

32 "Mob"? Oh c'mon let's not use the M word

Posted by: Total Control Racist at December 17, 2018 07:38 PM (z2W2E)

33 I've been reading about the Essenes lately. For those of y'all who ain't in the Tribe, they were a sect from Judaism who thought the Jews were too soft, even the Temple Jews (Sadducees); and went off to the Dead Sea.

Those motherf---ers were, literally, supporters of incest. They thought even most Jews were too blood polluted for them.
ancientjewreview.com/articles/2017/3/22/aramaic-tobit-at-qumran

Thus always to cultists.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 17, 2018 07:39 PM (ykYG2)

34 I'm not normally a proponent of harsh language but I hope those Marines unleashed a torrent that those jerks could walk on.

And I hope those Marines both recover and those thugs get thrown in jail.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Weasel wants you to come to the NoVaMoMe! at December 17, 2018 07:39 PM (U5tDi)

35 Only steers and queers have save tags...which one are ya?

Posted by: blaster at December 17, 2018 07:39 PM (ZfRYq)

36 Commenting with save tags are like wearing a helmet on a bicycle.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 17, 2018 07:40 PM (LL1Be)

37 11 7 Avoid this environment.
Posted by: Golfman at December 17, 2018 07:30 PM (GL/05)

How? The Marines were going to a Marine function.

In a perfect world there's a batsignal that calls in forty or so of their best buds with a sufficient quota of wheelie bins for the antifa, but that would probably mean charges...

Posted by: JEM at December 17, 2018 07:40 PM (8erNz)

38 >>>32 "Mob"? Oh c'mon let's not use the M word
Posted by: Total Control Racist at December 17, 2018 07:38 PM (z2W2E)
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I prefer the term "human surprise throng". Or thong, if he's hot!

Posted by: Don Lemon - Dual Class White Hate & White Penis Expert at December 17, 2018 07:40 PM (aqpW6)

39 Radicalism is like a clan too suspicious of outsiders to abandon
cousin marriage, and, like incestuous offspring, radicalism's
intellectual offspring accumulate genetic load.
I think maybe an inability to stop accumulating a genetic load explains a lot of their behavior.

Posted by: pep at December 17, 2018 07:40 PM (T6t7i)

40 So will the lilly-white, upper-class auntie fags get charged with a hate crime for using racial slurs against minorities, or where their racial slurs woke love words?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at December 17, 2018 07:41 PM (5RXy6)

41
I call those bold postings for a one-armed shelving installer!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 17, 2018 07:42 PM (pNxlR)

42 'Commenting with save tags are like wearing a helmet on a bicycle.'

Tightrope with a net.

Posted by: fre at December 17, 2018 07:42 PM (UdKB7)

43 When the SHTF this damn list is going to be pretty long.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 17, 2018 07:42 PM (xzqr4)

44 I can slowly feel my handle coming back.

Posted by: fre at December 17, 2018 07:42 PM (UdKB7)

45 My Marine friends tell me the penalty for fighting civilians, even in self-defense, is about one step short of bear rape.

Which is a shame.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 17, 2018 07:42 PM (5aX2M)

46 I double fucking guarantee you that D'oh boy would have made these fucker limp for the rest of their lives. Any Marine that says " Don't attack me cause I'm Hispanic" is despicable.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2018 07:43 PM (0jFNh)

47 Avoid this environment.Posted by: Golfman at December 17, 2018 07:30 PM (GL/05)

Antifa will not allow it. Avoid their turf, and they will eventually bring their turf to you. You will be made to care. You will be made to comply.

Posted by: Walker at December 17, 2018 07:43 PM (WQMJ4)

48 Nope. Prairie dog.

Posted by: fre at December 17, 2018 07:43 PM (UdKB7)

49 So how come the Antifa guys still have all their teeth?

Posted by: rickl at December 17, 2018 07:43 PM (sdi6R)

50 39
Radicalism is like a clan too suspicious of outsiders to abandon

cousin marriage, and, like incestuous offspring, radicalism's

intellectual offspring accumulate genetic load.
I think maybe an inability to stop accumulating a genetic load explains a lot of their behavior.

Posted by: pep

For more on this phenomenon, see Ted Kaczynski.

Posted by: pep at December 17, 2018 07:44 PM (T6t7i)

51 Antifa stands for anti-fascist so the only people who don't love antifa, sexually, are homophobic fascists and pureist nudists who eschew masks entirely! AND THATS SCIENCE!

Posted by: Don Lemon - Dual Class White Hate & White Penis Expert at December 17, 2018 07:44 PM (aqpW6)

52
Avoid this environment.
Posted by: Golfman

Avoid the USA?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 17, 2018 07:44 PM (aKsyK)

53 'Any Marine that says " Don't attack me cause I'm Hispanic" is despicable.'

Those two Marines didn't say that. They were trying to defuse a situation and, also, to educate a pack of idiots.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 17, 2018 07:44 PM (ykYG2)

54 That's the way I read it too, boho.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Weasel wants you to come to the NoVaMoMe! at December 17, 2018 07:45 PM (U5tDi)

55 I picked up a new bourbon it was on sale at the VA ABC (ad popped up in something, promised up to 20% off on select bourbons - did not see anything disounted that much, so pretty dang select). Bernheim, a wheat bourbon. It was/is good.

This brings me to a rant. I have a friend who has a distillery - this is a good friend to have! - and he is bringing wheat bourbons back. I would prefer to buy his, but he is in a neighboring state, and you can't buy it here. Because reasons.

But also, I cannot buy a handgun in a neighboring state. I can buy a long gun in a neighboring state. Why is this not a violation of the Second Amendment?

Posted by: blaster at December 17, 2018 07:45 PM (ZfRYq)

56 fiddy nine!

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2018 07:46 PM (NLLmE)

57 Always carry and be prepared to defend yourself.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 17, 2018 07:46 PM (Z+IKu)

58 dang

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2018 07:46 PM (NLLmE)

59 >>>39 Radicalism is like a clan too suspicious of outsiders to abandon
cousin marriage, and, like incestuous offspring, radicalism's
intellectual offspring accumulate genetic load.
I think maybe an inability to stop accumulating a genetic load explains a lot of their behavior.
Posted by: pep at December 17, 2018 07:40 PM (T6t7i)
________

Science says theres nothing to worry about with cousin marriage as long as its GAY cousin marriage!

Posted by: Don Lemon - Dual Class White Hate & White Penis Expert at December 17, 2018 07:46 PM (aqpW6)

60 Next up: Jonah Goldberg on why Antifa was right and if you don't agree it's evidence of your idiocy, not his..

Posted by: dagny at December 17, 2018 07:46 PM (nRWPy)

61 Once you put on a mask, you're not a civilian.

Posted by: dagny at December 17, 2018 07:48 PM (nRWPy)

62 8 The Sturmabteilung lives on.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2018 07:30 PM (NWiLs)

Is it just me, or is there an eerie similarity between the Sturmabteilung insignia and the anarchy symbol?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy

Posted by: rickl at December 17, 2018 07:49 PM (sdi6R)

63 OT - potentially interesting happenings WRT Flynn case (which of course touches on many aspects/perpetrators of the Keystone Coup attempt). Sentencing hearing manana. Special counsel filed redacted Strzok/Pientka interview notes with Flynn (302).

Nothing to date touches the mystery of this case, to me. An experienced executive of course completely familiar with routine surveillance of all calls to adversary diplomats managed to say *anything* that could under any circumstances be seen to be a lie (vs. "don't remember exactly", or a million other obvious, and even sincere and legit, dodges). Flynn even mentioned at one point (forget if in interview, or elsewhere) that of course FBI would have the conversation in its records.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 17, 2018 07:49 PM (QDnY+)

64 Once you put on a mask, you're not a civilian.
Posted by: dagny at December 17, 2018 07:48 PM (nRWPy)

How does this apply to face collanders ? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Walker at December 17, 2018 07:49 PM (WQMJ4)

65 thanks for that kitteh tweet! I LOVE IT!!!

Posted by: ace at December 17, 2018 07:49 PM (PbpT7)

66 Don't care how much you embolden it, Mr. Of Spades - you're not tricking me into clicking a link to Hot Air.

*fold arms, shakes head*

Posted by: Hands at December 17, 2018 07:49 PM (786Ro)

67 If these "people" were ever to gain power and the force to back it up it would make the "red terror" of the bolsheviks look like a Sunday picnic. They would kill everyone who was against them with no remorse.

Posted by: deepred at December 17, 2018 07:49 PM (AfBox)

68 the Connor Barnes article in Quilette starts out awkward and in dire need of editing, but after a few paragraphs gets really good

esp when he writes about the "hurt people" who join up to vent their anger and fear onto The Designated Targets

Posted by: the Man who Burps in French at December 17, 2018 07:50 PM (9HuGt)

69 Next up: Jonah Goldberg on why Antifa was right and if you don't agree it's evidence of your idiocy, not his..
Posted by: dagny

Followed by Jonah wheezing heavily because he had to walk up a gentle slope.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at December 17, 2018 07:50 PM (5RXy6)

70 I help you cross the river and save you from the oncoming snake killers by giving you a ride, and you repay me by biting me with your poison bite?

Why, Snake, why?

Why are you a Democrat?

Posted by: the Frog at December 17, 2018 07:51 PM (UsCnO)

71 Followed by Jonah wheezing heavily because he had to walk up a gentle slope.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at December 17, 2018 07:50 PM (5RXy6)

Jonah Labored Breathing.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2018 07:51 PM (NLLmE)

72 >>>60 Next up: Jonah Goldberg on why Antifa was right and if you don't agree it's evidence of your idiocy, not his..
Posted by: dagny at December 17, 2018 07:46 PM (nRWPy)
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One of my wife's boyfriends has just informed me that she will allow an Antifa masks as an acceptable accessory to my gimp suit.

Posted by: Jonah Soypilled Goldberg at December 17, 2018 07:52 PM (aqpW6)

73 No shit, I see a guy in a mask and he isn't a doc operating on me, I go for the gat.

Posted by: navybrat, on a mission from Odin at December 17, 2018 07:53 PM (w7KSn)

74 Just an fyi; I submitted the 'How Our Government Works' meme to the FB Funnies page, and it was accepted. I, of course, gave due credit to my source AoS, and it is making the rounds nicely, so far.

Posted by: DireGypsy at December 17, 2018 07:53 PM (MLtg/)

75 Ace, do you remember when you posted a series of safe-space kitties in the sidebar a few years ago? I still have a screenshot of the one rolled up in a blanket that you said identified as a hoagie but was really ham and cheese, or something. It still makes me laugh when I look at it.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Weasel wants you to come to the NoVaMoMe! at December 17, 2018 07:53 PM (U5tDi)

76 Problematic. What a fucked up word. It's everywhere in woke culture.

In a not too distant future, you will be sentenced to imprisonment or worse for simply being problematic.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 17, 2018 07:53 PM (+fPHo)

77 Jonah Labored Breathing.
Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2018 07:51 PM

That's his Algonquin name

Posted by: Hands at December 17, 2018 07:53 PM (786Ro)

Posted by: Hands at December 17, 2018 07:53 PM (786Ro)

79 phew

Posted by: Hands at December 17, 2018 07:53 PM (786Ro)

80 Next next up: Why Jonah thinks gentle slopes should be banned and why you, not, he, is stupid and petty for not agreeing.

Posted by: dagny at December 17, 2018 07:53 PM (nRWPy)

81 >>>69 Next up: Jonah Goldberg on why Antifa was right and if you don't agree it's evidence of your idiocy, not his..
Posted by: dagny

Followed by Jonah wheezing heavily because he had to walk up a gentle slope.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at December 17, 2018 07:50 PM (5RXy6)
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not today - theres a full charge on my Seqway!

Posted by: Jonah Soypilled Goldberg at December 17, 2018 07:53 PM (aqpW6)

82 39
Radicalism is like a clan too suspicious of outsiders to abandon

cousin marriage, and, like incestuous offspring, radicalism's

intellectual offspring accumulate genetic load.
I think maybe an inability to stop accumulating a genetic load explains a lot of their behavior.

Posted by: pep at December 17, 2018 07:40 PM (T6t7i)

Exactly when did this thread become a Stormy Daniels thread?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 17, 2018 07:54 PM (UsCnO)

83 It wouldn't do for my former Marine kid and his friends to run into these guys.

Rage Meter: *flies across room*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 07:54 PM (ptqGC)

84 It's not racist when we do it!
- Liberals everywhere

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 17, 2018 07:54 PM (p0nVR)

85 I think I read somewhere that most Antifa goons are on drugs, which would explain their paranoid and violent tendencies. "Guy in uniform = Nazi that needs to be punched" is not how normal people think.

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 17, 2018 07:54 PM (XKZwp)

86 we would turn those Antifa queens into pulp !!!

Posted by: Horst Wessel ( mit meinen Kameraden ) at December 17, 2018 07:54 PM (9HuGt)

87 bluebell, are you home?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2018 07:54 PM (0jFNh)

88 You have to love the 'tolerance' and 'anti-fascism' (not to mention brain power) on display in the top story.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 17, 2018 07:54 PM (DwvNG)

89 Nothing to date touches the mystery of this case, to me. An experienced executive of course completely familiar with routine surveillance of all calls to adversary diplomats managed to say *anything* that could under any circumstances be seen to be a lie (vs. "don't remember exactly", or a million other obvious, and even sincere and legit, dodges). Flynn even mentioned at one point (forget if in interview, or elsewhere) that of course FBI would have the conversation in its records.

Look at the date it was filed, 2/15/17.

This is one day after Strzok texted Page and asked her - Also, is Andy good with F 302.

Page responds with - launch f 302.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 17, 2018 07:54 PM (/tuJf)

90 Sounds like a cult where you don't even get laid. And those are the worst ones.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 17, 2018 07:55 PM (jXrK7)

91 I'm conflicted about whether Hands should go to the Barrel.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2018 07:55 PM (NLLmE)

92 Surely there must be a disused munitions factory on the edge of town that could be repurposed to house these domestic terrorists.....

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at December 17, 2018 07:55 PM (h7sWp)

93 Were these the same guys who got maced as a prelude to the attack?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 17, 2018 07:55 PM (DwvNG)

94 Meh, more than 10 miles away from me. Let's go play Parcheesi.

Posted by: Plantain Bifurcations Dude at December 17, 2018 07:55 PM (DTX3h)

95 75 Ace, do you remember when you posted a series of safe-space kitties in the sidebar a few years ago?
Posted by: bluebell ~ Weasel wants you to come to the NoVaMoMe! at December 17, 2018 07:53 PM (U5tDi)

I think we could use more of those. All in favor?

Posted by: rickl at December 17, 2018 07:55 PM (sdi6R)

96 "Bernheim, a wheat bourbon"

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought bourbon was bourbon because it was mostly corn.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 17, 2018 07:55 PM (4thlk)

97 This story, and the one about the Green Beret being brought up on chargers of MURDER for killing one of Obama's Precious, is driving me to consider heroin.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 07:56 PM (ptqGC)

98 G-d Damn White Hispanics Monkeying Shit Up!!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at December 17, 2018 07:56 PM (qxq6t)

99 Jane, G-D bless D'oh boy and his friends.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2018 07:56 PM (0jFNh)

100 The anti-nazi protesters may be misguided in their tactical approach but they are certainly well-meaning and absolutely preferred over those evil right-wing jerks like Susan Collins and Bob Corker.

You do not reason with positions like this - you destroy it. You defeat it in every sense of the word.

Posted by: GarMoe at December 17, 2018 07:56 PM (1GWg8)

101 I have tons of them.Bitter sweet since my buddy died.

https://youtu.be/wzh0EuLhRhE

Posted by: steevy at December 17, 2018 07:57 PM (BXMxN)

102 bluebell, are you home?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2018 07:54 PM (0jFNh)
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Yes, I am. What's up?

Posted by: bluebell ~ Weasel wants you to come to the NoVaMoMe! at December 17, 2018 07:57 PM (U5tDi)

103
Jane, G-D bless D'oh boy and his friends.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2018 07:56 PM (0jFNh)

Thank you. And the two who committed suicide under Obama's VA. He wears a black bracelet with his BFF's name on it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 07:57 PM (ptqGC)

104 Ben.. sent you an email.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 17, 2018 07:57 PM (dUJdY)

105 https://youtu.be/X3n8WSl3Kig

Posted by: steevy at December 17, 2018 07:58 PM (BXMxN)

106 The thing on Radicalism is great but its troubling because its not even radical now. That's the mainstream. These people are in charge of the news, entertainment, schools, the Democratic Party, many businesses, etc. This is where the most extremist freaks used to dwell but now they're the Man. And they are going to crush everyone in their path.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 07:58 PM (39g3+)

107 I lied - Bernheim is a wheat whiskey.

Posted by: blaster at December 17, 2018 07:59 PM (ZfRYq)

108 WAIT!!!

Is this Antifa hiring? And do they have a boat???

Posted by: Bill Kristol at December 17, 2018 07:59 PM (aqpW6)

109 [From the excerpt:] Unfortunately, toxicity in radical communities is not a bug. It is a feature. The ideology and norms of radicalism have evolved to produce toxic, paranoid, depressed subjects. What follows is a picture of what happens in communities that are passionately, sincerely, radically woke, as seen from the perspective of an apostate.

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Imagine the damage that could be done to our country were one of these Community Organizers able to capture the Presidency one day.

Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 17, 2018 07:59 PM (WqPYg)

110 As I wrote a few years ago about radicalism and the new normal:

The problem is, this new system is lacking in bones. It can't replace the old system because there's nothing to attach to. Relativism and endlessly shifting "progressivism" do not allow any real structures to be built. In real, practical terms, you cannot build for a future you cannot know or predict. You cannot work on new projects, when you never know if they're going to be declared hateful and bigoted next year. You cannot research new ideas because you can't know if they will even be allowed by the time they are developed.

And in a culture without any concept of gratitude, constantly self-obsessed, and demanding all without giving any, you cannot expect any sort of functional work force. In a culture that rejects the old, believes nothing has any meaning, and everything is relative, you can't even educate the workforce or the future. In a culture that is constantly changing to match the newest ideas of "progress," you cannot even start to develop any plans.

In other words, this new system is utterly self destructive, it is violently, stupidly suicidal. And in a sad, strange, but all-too-predictable twist, almost none of the adherents to this system can even begin to attempt an explanation for what they believe and why.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 07:59 PM (39g3+)

111 Back in the day, you'd just shrug it off and take care of business. No need to talk about it. Just take care of business. The rest of them will get the message.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2018 07:59 PM (07mXI)

112 My husband and I overheard a conversation between our son and a Vietnam vet not long after our son came home.

It chilled my blood, what Obama put our troops through, and how very, very close our boy came (on three occasions) to coming home to us in a box.

I hope Obama pays for his multiple sins. And I'll stop there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 07:59 PM (ptqGC)

113 I hope Obama pays for his multiple sins.

He will Jane.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 17, 2018 08:00 PM (dUJdY)

114 I think I read somewhere that most Antifa goons are
on drugs, which would explain their paranoid and violent tendencies.
"Guy in uniform = Nazi that needs to be punched" is not how normal
people think.
Posted by: pookysgirl at December 17, 2018 07:54 PM (XKZwp)

The French Revolution, 1930s Germany, and plenty of other historical accounts beg to differ. Antifa is the norm of Human Nature. Those who attribute it to chemical causes are hoping for a more palatable explanation. The last few decades of peaceful transitions of power are the outlier.

The Gods of the Copybook Headings are limping up to explain things once more.

Posted by: Walker at December 17, 2018 08:01 PM (WQMJ4)

115 96
"Bernheim, a wheat bourbon"

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought bourbon was bourbon because it was mostly corn.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 17, 2018 07:55 PM (4thlk)

Is that like Champagne is only from an area in France, while "Sparkling wine" is from California?

It should be called whisky if it isn't made of at least 51% corn mash, by Kentucky law.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 17, 2018 08:01 PM (UsCnO)

116 Obama preferred dead American troops to dead Muslims. It's as simple as that. And as treasonous and evil.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 08:01 PM (ptqGC)

117 What if they had been Proud Boys? We're the best people ever. That is why we're despised by the scum of the earth.

Posted by: ccoffer at December 17, 2018 08:02 PM (/0zHe)

118 97 This story, and the one about the Green Beret being brought up on chargers of MURDER for killing one of Obama's Precious, is driving me to consider heroin.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 07:56 PM (ptqGC)

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I'd start with snorting whiskey, and then drinking cocaine.
Seriously though, it's like we've outsourced our military leadership to Russia or China. Disgusting ...

Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 17, 2018 08:02 PM (WqPYg)

119 97
This story, and the one about the Green Beret being brought up on
chargers of MURDER for killing one of Obama's Precious, is driving me to
consider heroin.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 07:56 PM (ptqGC)

Don't, Jane. Take up shooting guns instead of shooting heroin. You'll feel better in the long run.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 17, 2018 08:03 PM (UsCnO)

120 The last few decades of peaceful transitions of power are the outlier.

I agree, especially in mobs. For a time, a shining moment, we managed to crush back the tyrants and the crazies and have some liberty and justice. For a moment. It wasn't a pure moment, it had its problems, but they were problems that could be solved and moved forward past. Not any longer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 08:03 PM (39g3+)

121 @118
No this is what happens when you have SJW's and lawyers running the War Effort.

You get SJW and lawyer shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 17, 2018 08:04 PM (qxq6t)

122 *The problem is, this new system is lacking in bones. It can't replace the old system because there's nothing to attach to. Relativism and endlessly shifting "progressivism" do not allow any real structures to be built. In real, practical terms, you cannot build for a future you cannot know or predict. You cannot work on new projects, when you never know if they're going to be declared hateful and bigoted next year. You cannot research new ideas because you can't know if they will even be allowed by the time they are developed. *

This must have been one of the problems that gave humanity The Dark Ages.

Posted by: tbodie at December 17, 2018 08:04 PM (yavIa)

123 thanks for that kitteh tweet! I LOVE IT!!!
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ding
ding

Posted by: captain christopher pike at December 17, 2018 08:05 PM (Evws/)

124 OT:

Some holiday cheer for the 'rons:
the new Miss Universe 's swimsuit strut

https://youtu.be/irt-4-8N0DY

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at December 17, 2018 08:05 PM (BJlbN)

125 we would turn those Antifa queens into pulp !!!
Posted by: Horst Wessel

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Try me.

Posted by: Ali Hohler at December 17, 2018 08:05 PM (5aX2M)

126 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 07:59 PM (39g3+)

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Well said. A map may be useful for telling you where you are ... but useless if you don't know where you're going. The lack and shifting of any objective principles results it what we see now: chaos.

Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 17, 2018 08:06 PM (WqPYg)

127 107
I lied - Bernheim is a wheat whiskey.

Posted by: blaster at December 17, 2018 07:59 PM (ZfRYq)

Whew! That was too close for comfort!
Ever heard of the Kentucky Long Riflemen? They didn't mess around!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 17, 2018 08:06 PM (UsCnO)

128 I can hardly wait for Christmas Day at the life coach's house, with her precious darling (30 years old) home for the holidays from Berkley (where shes a "student mediator").

Husband sez as long as his 94 y.o. prog mom is alive, we simply must spend the day and night with the progs.

I'm trying really, really, hard not to wish certain things.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 08:06 PM (ptqGC)

129 "this new system is utterly self destructive"

Leftism is self destructive. It's amazing how many people believe things that are counter to reality. The only explanation I have is some type of insanity.

Posted by: fre at December 17, 2018 08:06 PM (UdKB7)

130 One of the key characteristics of the "progressive" movement is infinite progress. It never stops, it never has enough, it has to keep "progressing" to have any meaning. And that means there's never anything to hold on to or build around.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 08:07 PM (39g3+)

131 and that monogamy was a capitalist social construct, they were probably bewildered instead of enticed.

The leftists are fond of claiming that some animals are gay. Ok, it's a documented fact that many animals are monogamous. Are those animals evil capitalists?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 17, 2018 08:08 PM (/qEW2)

132 No this is what happens when you have SJW's and lawyers running the War Effort.

You get SJW and lawyer shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 17, 2018 08:04 PM (qxq6t)

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Correct. I read somewhere a couple years ago while DogEater was still in office an incredible statistic about how many lawyers now inhabit the Pentagon. You need some lawyer's approval before you can shoot at an enemy combatant trying to kill you.

Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 17, 2018 08:08 PM (WqPYg)

133 130 One of the key characteristics of the "progressive" movement is infinite progress. It never stops, it never has enough, it has to keep "progressing" to have any meaning. And that means there's never anything to hold on to or build around.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 08:07 PM (39g3+)

"What do we do when we kill all the Jews"?

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2018 08:08 PM (NLLmE)

134 You can label a lot "Whiskey" but to label something strait "Whiskey" I think it must be over 50% corn and from a certain region, then it becomes more regional when labeling it Bourbon.

I never had Wheat Whiskey, I think that's what the Germans made their whiskey with.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 17, 2018 08:09 PM (4thlk)

135 JS, thanks. I am aware of the extremely suggestive and dubious stuff about the F302 filing date, vs. original drafting date, and the texts ("launch").

But if F302 were "edited" (i.e., FBI agents/executives conspiring to lie), one would think Flynn - instead of pleading guilty - would have gone ape-s**t, and challenged the entire premise (that he lied). Making it a he said/they said situation, with not a chance of the charge sticking at trial.

Yeah yeah so Flynn's son, Turkish stuff, pleading to avoid further damage, financial problems from legal costs, get all that. But of course the larger national interest is in seeing any FBI/DOJ corruption rooted out and harshly punished, and Flynn playing along on this may ironically impede that.

Also puzzling that some are crowing Flynn will "do no time" thanks to revelations of possible funny business with the 302s and associated FBI chatter. Thought the SCO sentencing memo reco'd "no time" as the lower limit of its recommendation? So Judge Sullivan would not be exacting the tiniest bit of punishment by sentencing Flynn to nothing.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 17, 2018 08:09 PM (QDnY+)

136 The left's push and their attempt to build a new society around their ever-changing ideas cannot last, and I know it will fall to pieces and be rebuilt by people who get things done and understand life. The fear I have is what happens in between there. How crazy it gets and what price we'll pay before the dust settles.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 08:09 PM (39g3+)

137 129
"this new system is utterly self destructive"

Leftism is self destructive. It's amazing how many people believe
things that are counter to reality. The only explanation I have is some
type of insanity.

Posted by: fre at December 17, 2018 08:06 PM (UdKB7)

Leftism is simply defined as a life without responsibility.

Now is it starting to make sense?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 17, 2018 08:09 PM (UsCnO)

138 Got a question for The Horde...what do you all think about chipping in for the wall, as was mentioned this morning on Fox & Fs, including the fact there's a website to collect donations (a dot-com, not a gofundme although GFM is likely to be in play somewhere).

Posted by: Just another flyover Deplorable Bot at December 17, 2018 08:10 PM (uU9xW)

139 No this is what happens when you have SJW's and lawyers running the War Effort.

And after 8 years of Obama, the military is packed wall to wall with this crap. Promotions, policy changes, rules of engagements, etc. How much has been rolled back and how many people have been shuffled out? Very little, I fear. Not a high priority to ol' Two Scoops. I'd like to believe it is for Mattis, but I'm not seeing it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 08:11 PM (39g3+)

140 Just saw some news headline "NASA Research Reveals Saturn Is Losing Its Rings at 'Worst Case Scenario' Rate"

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Over/under on how many days until some Lefty Loon blames it on AGW?

Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 17, 2018 08:11 PM (WqPYg)

141 Correct. I read somewhere a couple years ago while DogEater was still in office an incredible statistic about how many lawyers now inhabit the Pentagon. You need some lawyer's approval before you can shoot at an enemy combatant trying to kill you.
Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 17, 2018 08:08 PM (WqPYg)

I am a lawyer, and I do not approve of this. Of course, I'm not a dumbass progressive asshole either.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2018 08:11 PM (NWiLs)

142 128
I can hardly wait for Christmas Day at the life coach's house, with her
precious darling (30 years old) home for the holidays from Berkley
(where shes a "student mediator").

Husband sez as long as his 94 y.o. prog mom is alive, we simply must spend the day and night with the progs.

I'm trying really, really, hard not to wish certain things.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 08:06 PM (ptqGC)

Jane, I promise to say a special prayer, just for you and your sanity, on Christmas Day!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 17, 2018 08:12 PM (UsCnO)

143 Got a question for The Horde...what do you all think
about chipping in for the wall, as was mentioned this morning on Fox
Fs, including the fact there's a website to collect donations (a
dot-com, not a gofundme although GFM is likely to be in play somewhere).
Posted by: Just another flyover Deplorable Bot at December 17, 2018 08:10 PM (uU9xW)
We could show up with our own brick and mortar, on private land all donated by the rightful owners, well inside the US/Mexico Border. And still a Federal Judge would deem it not legal.

Posted by: Walker at December 17, 2018 08:12 PM (WQMJ4)

144 Unfortunately, Tucker is not the right guy for the interview, as he accepts a purely fideist and emotional interpretation of religion. But the neo-left has no one like Liebniz, Hooker, or even Calvin. (And let's not even talk about Aquinas.)

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at December 17, 2018 08:12 PM (VaN/j)

145 I am a lawyer, and I do not approve of this. Of course, I'm not a dumbass progressive asshole either.

Well there are lawyers, and then there are lawyers. And all the jokes and dirty looks are at those guys, not the ones who work hard and fight for justice. I know good lawyers, a couple. They aren't very rich and they don't have positions of power but they work hard and are very, very smart.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 08:12 PM (39g3+)

146 Jane. I will have a Tito's in solidarity with you.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2018 08:13 PM (0jFNh)

147 Jane, I promise to say a special prayer, just for you and your sanity, on Christmas Day!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 17, 2018 08:12 PM (UsCnO)

If you've been nice, maybe you'll get a visit from Sanity Claus!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2018 08:13 PM (NWiLs)

148 'Now is it starting to make sense?'

No because that is ultimately self destructive and to me doesn't make sense.

Posted by: frea at December 17, 2018 08:13 PM (UdKB7)

149 Alex is purty smart.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2018 08:13 PM (NLLmE)

150 140 Fucking dirty carbon,what can't it do?

Posted by: steevy at December 17, 2018 08:14 PM (BXMxN)

151
Got a question for The Horde...what do you all think about chipping in
for the wall, as was mentioned this morning on Fox Fs, including
the fact there's a website to collect donations (a dot-com, not a
gofundme although GFM is likely to be in play somewhere).

Posted by: Just another flyover Deplorable Bot at December 17, 2018 08:10 PM (uU9xW)

It's a GREAT idea, if it could get traction. $80 per person who voted for Trump. It would more than pay for the wall.

Therefore, it will never happen.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 08:14 PM (ptqGC)

152 what do you all think about chipping in for the wall

I'd be all for it the day after the government is hacked down to its bare minimum constitutional authority and the debt is paid down. Until then, they can afford to build 800 walls around the entire damned USA with all the waste and fraud. The last thing they need is more of your money. I say "your" because I make so little I am under taxable income level.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 08:14 PM (39g3+)

153 136 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Agreed. And unfortunately, the response to the left will need to be equally if not more violent than they are currently exhibiting if it is to be excised. IMO of course. My concern rests with what the response will be from local authorities once it begins. It is a given that it will be bloody.

Posted by: GarMoe at December 17, 2018 08:15 PM (1GWg8)

154 Hey, baby, Saturn's rings are going away, so I'd love to check out the ring of Uranus.

Posted by: Neil deAss Tyson, PervHD at December 17, 2018 08:15 PM (kbXFS)

155 Good ol' Boys, drinking Whisky and Rye,
saying this will be the day that I die.........

this will be the day that I die.

Posted by: zombie Don McClean at December 17, 2018 08:16 PM (UsCnO)

156 If you've been nice, maybe you'll get a visit from Sanity Claus!

"There ain't no Sanity Claus"
--Chico Marx

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 08:16 PM (39g3+)

157 Also puzzling that some are crowing Flynn will "do no time" thanks to revelations of possible funny business with the 302s and associated FBI chatter. Thought the SCO sentencing memo reco'd "no time" as the lower limit of its recommendation? So Judge Sullivan would not be exacting the tiniest bit of punishment by sentencing Flynn to nothing.
Posted by: rhomboid

Strong possibility is that Judge Emmet Sullivan will vacate the conviction of Flynn, and recommend contempt on Mueller and crew for not providing the 302's as requested.

This is all really pretty nutty bullshit. Mueller can run this circus like this forever and the rest of the legal community sit on their hands.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 17, 2018 08:16 PM (S6Pax)

158 154
Hey, baby, Saturn's rings are going away, so I'd love to check out the ring of Uranus.

Posted by: Neil deAss Tyson, PervHD at December 17, 2018 08:15 PM (kbXFS)

the Brown Starfish nebula?

Posted by: Bill Nye, scientist at December 17, 2018 08:17 PM (UsCnO)

159 Welp, off to bed. Back is still killing me, and I still have Christmas baking to do.

'Night, all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 17, 2018 08:17 PM (ptqGC)

160 "I'm Mexican!"

Not the response I expected.

Posted by: t-bird at December 17, 2018 08:17 PM (g0Lfb)

161 Husband sez as long as his 94 y.o. prog mom is alive, we simply must spend the day and night with the progs.

Fuck that. There's nothing in your marriage vows that says you have to endure retards, particularly if they refuse to exhibit any degree of self control.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 17, 2018 08:18 PM (y7DUB)

162 I'd love to check out the ring of Uranus.

Never gets old.

Posted by: pep at December 17, 2018 08:19 PM (T6t7i)

163 Ouch! 160 comments and we forgot that our Service Men were attacked by fucking antifa,

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2018 08:19 PM (0jFNh)

164 >>>Got a question for The Horde...what do you all think about chipping in

for the wall, as was mentioned this morning on Fox Fs, including

the fact there's a website to collect donations (a dot-com, not a

gofundme although GFM is likely to be in play somewhere).

Posted by: Just another flyover Deplorable Bot at December 17, 2018 08:10 PM (uU9xW)<<<

For the donation you can have your name on a brick in the wall, like at a sports stadium.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at December 17, 2018 08:19 PM (kbXFS)

165 Frankenstein or Sparkling Monster??
https://twitter.com/Reverend_Banjo/status/
1073406969103429632

Posted by: andycanuck at December 17, 2018 08:20 PM (Evws/)

166 It's a GREAT idea, if it could get traction. $80 per person who voted for Trump. It would more than pay for the wall.

Double it and we'll get started!

Posted by: The Clinton Construction Foundation at December 17, 2018 08:20 PM (98WNR)

167 Well there are lawyers, and then there are lawyers. And all the jokes and dirty looks are at those guys, not the ones who work hard and fight for justice. I know good lawyers, a couple. They aren't very rich and they don't have positions of power but they work hard and are very, very smart.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 17, 2018 08:12 PM

Well, you know what they say. 95% of lawyers give the rest of us a bad name.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 17, 2018 08:20 PM (Uw2PZ)

168 Correct. I read somewhere a couple years ago while DogEater was still in office an incredible statistic about how many lawyers now inhabit the Pentagon. You need some lawyer's approval before you can shoot at an enemy combatant trying to kill you.

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Just sign in triplicate before a notary public then you can fire back.

Posted by: Maya Angelou at December 17, 2018 08:20 PM (+y/Ru)

169 I am a lawyer, and I do not approve of this. Of course, I'm not a dumbass progressive asshole either.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2018 08:11 PM (NWiLs)

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I'm currently reading a book of Justice Scalia's speeches called "Scalia Speaks." What a wise, inspiring man and great writer.

Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 17, 2018 08:20 PM (WqPYg)

170 Emmit Sullivan? Pfffft! He's a Reagan Judge.

Posted by: John Roberts at December 17, 2018 08:20 PM (786Ro)

171 >>>I'd love to check out the ring of Uranus.

Never gets old.

Posted by: pep at December 17, 2018 08:19 PM (T6t7i)<<<
Yeah, about that.

Posted by: Hope Solo at December 17, 2018 08:20 PM (kbXFS)

172 Virtue signaling is not new.FDR was once sent a Japanese soldiers finger bone made into a letter opener by a Marine.He ordered it buried with full military honors.

Posted by: steevy at December 17, 2018 08:21 PM (BXMxN)

173 Good night Jane. I sure hope your back gets better.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 17, 2018 08:21 PM (dUJdY)

174 Of course,today said Marine would be brought up on charges...

Posted by: steevy at December 17, 2018 08:21 PM (BXMxN)

175 I don't know how much money we send to other countries but I bet there is more than enough to pay for the wall wasted every year.

Posted by: freak at December 17, 2018 08:22 PM (UdKB7)

176 The war on jihad (yes, it's islam) and their allies here in America and the rest of the civilized world is what we are fighting. Anyone who doesn't realize this is not very bright. Somebody had to say it.

Posted by: Eromero at December 17, 2018 08:22 PM (zLDYs)

177 Hey guys, new thread. It's got cats and bells.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 17, 2018 08:22 PM (t+qrx)

178 I would donate to the wall fund if there was some way to guarantee that it gets built.

Posted by: freak at December 17, 2018 08:23 PM (UdKB7)

179 The problem is, this new system is lacking in bones. It can't replace the old system because there's nothing to attach to. Relativism and endlessly shifting "progressivism" do not allow any real structures to be built. In real, practical terms, you cannot build for a future you cannot know or predict. You cannot work on new projects, when you never know if they're going to be declared hateful and bigoted next year. You cannot research new ideas because you can't know if they will even be allowed by the time they are developed.

I like that. The leftists adopt the term "progressive" as if they were rationally progressing towards some point based on certain principles.

But then you see all the inconsistencies, contradictions, you see them attacking each other and you realize the whole thing is a chaotic mess. No scaffolding, no skeleton.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 17, 2018 08:23 PM (/qEW2)

180 Godinez replied "I'm Mexican" after Antifa thugs called him a "white supremacist". Maybe he was calling on identity politics to get Antifa to stand down. Not that it did him any good, though.

Posted by: Hands at December 17, 2018 08:24 PM (786Ro)

181 DogEater

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Didja see they have Obamas in France, too?

https://bit.ly/2URI6RF

Posted by: Maya Angelou at December 17, 2018 08:25 PM (+y/Ru)

182 Kitteh video is to Ace like laser pointer is to kittehs.

Posted by: Hands at December 17, 2018 08:25 PM (786Ro)

183 oh, and: nood

Posted by: Hands at December 17, 2018 08:25 PM (786Ro)

184 "I'm Mexican!"

" Yeah? Well, I'm a street thug. "

Posted by: Maya Angelou at December 17, 2018 08:27 PM (+y/Ru)

185 I mentioned in the last thread that the article about Saturn's rings decaying is cool. It's long been suspected that planetary rings are temporary phenomena, probably caused by colliding moons or something like that. It's good to see some real evidence.

So we're fortunate to happen to be alive to see Saturn's rings in all their majesty before they dissipate. Jupiter, Uranus, and Neptune all have ring systems that are much smaller and fainter than Saturn's. They were probably more prominent in the past.

Posted by: rickl at December 17, 2018 08:35 PM (sdi6R)

186
They look like Mexicans but they's lizard beings.

We was kangs.

Posted by: Alice Walker, Intellectual at December 17, 2018 08:35 PM (UD94U)

187 This story was trending on facebook when it first was reported, with the belief that the Marines were attacked by Trump supporters at the rally. When the truth was revealed, down the memory hole it went

Posted by: josephistan at December 17, 2018 08:35 PM (Izzlo)

188 "Godinez said he was maced, punched in the head and kicked in the ribs. When the attack was over, Torres called 911 and the pair went to the hospital. Godinez still reportedly has eye issues from being maced and said he may need surgery in the future to deal with his other injuries"

Someone please ask the good folks over at Legal Innsurrection if THIS is a red line that would cause them to abandon their civil "rebellion" and pick up a rifle.

Because I still wonder if they even HAVE a red line. 2 years of asking politely didn't get a response.

Posted by: Fenrisulven at December 17, 2018 08:40 PM (xss3U)

189 >>>When my friends and I did have theoretical disagreements, they tended
towards the purely strategic or to philosophical minutiae. Are cops
human?<<<

This is what happens when people spend too much time sniffing their own farts.

Posted by: Fritz at December 17, 2018 09:08 PM (Z9C5C)

190 40. The judge added a charge of ethnic intimidation.

Posted by: kallisto at December 17, 2018 09:24 PM (Z9spM)

191 93. Yes. There's a report by Victor Fiorillo on phillymag.com

Posted by: kallisto at December 17, 2018 09:27 PM (Z9spM)

192 But also, I cannot buy a handgun in a neighboring state. I can buy a long gun in a neighboring state. Why is this not a violation of the Second Amendment?

Posted by: blaster at December 17, 2018 07:45 PM (ZfRYq)

You can be free.

But it requires a high risk tolerance.
Nature of the beast these day.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 17, 2018 09:28 PM (z79tQ)

193 I'd pay good money to see a Marines vs. Antifa death math with even numbers on both sides.

Posted by: JB SAY at December 18, 2018 10:58 AM (mrKtW)

194 It like liberalism, Socialism, Social Justice Warriors and democrat is like a Church where you have to go 24/7/365 and hear it from every outlet.Think Holiness, Jewish Islamic or any other religion that has a sermon every hour on how to live, not live, who to hate, who to love and the punishment for not adhering to the mantra and doctrine.It is and sounds, looks like a religious cult.Think and do as they say or go to hell.

Posted by: obsidian at December 18, 2018 12:16 PM (7+yqP)

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