Dick Cheney On Donald Trump

The man is a serious thinker, and his impression of Trump's first days as the President-Elect matches mine, which makes me, by the transitive property of thinking, a serious thinker.

But the second comment is just so awesome....

Cheney To CNN's Barbara Starr: Trump Took Us To Point Where We Don't Need You Guys Anymore

I think he needs to be careful but he'll learn as he goes along. I think he is putting some brains and good people with him. I am a big fan of Mike Pence. I know Mike well from his 12 years in the House and I think he's a great choice as Vice President. He's going to play a major role. I think Mr. Trump is taking very, very seriously the job that he has gotten now. Staffing up the administration.
I think one of the reasons people get so concerned about the tweets is it is sort of a way around the press. He doesn't have to rely upon, uh, rely upon -- this is the modern era, modern technology. He's at the point where we don't need you guys anymore.

I have to be careful to separate Trump's typical blustery, chaotic pronouncements from his actions. And I am cautiously optimistic based on his few concrete actions.

Posted by: CBD at 12:10 PM

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1 Well, we will see.

Posted by: HH at December 04, 2016 12:08 PM (DrCtv)

2 1

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 12:09 PM (lJW6d)

3 WARCOCK! knows which he speaks.

Posted by: SoulSummer at December 04, 2016 12:09 PM (1YJWa)

4 OK, two, but I read the content.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 12:09 PM (lJW6d)

5 If Darth is on Trumps side, so am I. As will most thoughtful thinkers be.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 12:10 PM (lJW6d)

6 I have to be careful to separate Trump's typical blustery, chaotic
pronouncements from his actions. And I am cautiously optimistic based on
his few concrete actions.
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That sucks, dude.

Some of us get to enjoy both his blustery chaotic pronouncements *and* his concrete actions.

Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2016 12:11 PM (3Liv/)

7 I like the fact that the unchanged Cheney went from one of the Dems favorite Republicans when he was in Congress and the Reagan administration to Darth Cheney.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 04, 2016 12:12 PM (Dx2t8)

8 I hear day after day, projections for "educated" lefties, how Trump is the toxic mix of all sorts of evil.

I am tempted, but so far have resisted, to ask: What things has he done to justify your interpretation? Not said. Done?

We'll get there, but for now I'm keeping my powder dry.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2016 12:12 PM (Pz4pT)

9 g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 04, 2016 12:13 PM (KCxzN)

10 I hear day after day, projections for "educated" lefties, how Trump is the toxic mix of all sorts of evil.

I am tempted, but so far have resisted, to ask: What things has he done to justify your interpretation? Not said. Done?

I've tried that and getting the lefties to cite "facts" rather than just feelings. They can't do it and they quickly just descend into name calling.

Works every time it's tried.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 12:15 PM (lJW6d)

11 7 I like the fact that the unchanged Cheney went from one of the Dems favorite Republicans when he was in Congress and the Reagan administration to Darth Cheney.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 04, 2016 12:12 PM (Dx2t

It's the political equivalent of the Transubstantiation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 12:16 PM (SRKgf)

12 Status quo foreign policy stalwarts will be the last ones to come around but already seem to be bending a little. Winston Lord described Trump on the one hand as "impulsive" and "ignorant", but on the other said he thought a measured reaching out to Taiwan would be a good way to begin to reign in expansionist China.

Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2016 12:16 PM (sCBEO)

13 In Austria the "far right candidate" lost today (ceremonial post of the presidency).

From the BBC story on the news: "France, the Netherlands and Germany all face elections next year in which anti-mainstream and anti-immigration parties are gaining ground."

You see, opposing an unplanned, unwanted, indefensible instantaneous importation of huge numbers of (mostly) unaccompanied young males who lack any cultural or language tools for self-sufficiency or even assimilation is "anti-immigration".

Won't even guess what "anti-mainstream" is supposed to mean, but will enjoy that one (first time I've seen it), and note that it is the equivalent of "anti-good stuff that we like and people like you SHOULD like, and stuff, or something".

Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2016 12:16 PM (QDnY+)

14 Send the Donks a BOW - Bag of Warcocks.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at December 04, 2016 12:16 PM (Tyii7)

15 Ding dong the media's dead.

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2016 12:17 PM (GVYK1)

16 Willowed on the book thread, carried forward here, just because (marginally topical):

"Frodo cast about, considering his options. How he wished to return to his hobbit hole in the Shire, but it was too late for that. Oh how he sorely wished to curl up right where he was with a nice pipe of tobacco and a footstool for his hairy feet, but there was no time for that. The only option, he decided, is to continue forward, for that is the way I am already heading.

There, in the forest before him was the Great Unknown, the Beast that devours All Things, the Hag of Chappaquadorafirn. With his tiny sword held bravely before him in his trembling hand, Frodo inched cautiously toward the Beast. Much to his surprise, he saw a tear rolling down her cheek, clinging to her puffy jawline before tumbling through space to splash on the mossy ground. "Why do you cry so, oh Hag of the Woods?" Frodo asked.

"Alas" replied the Beast. "I shall never be President!"

Posted by: Muldoon, private citizen at December 04, 2016 12:20 PM (wPiJc)

17 Darth Cheney, channeling hate into pain

Posted by: Jean at December 04, 2016 12:20 PM (yFbI+)

18 A soggy good morning from the Texas Gulf Coast, y'all.

I didn't watch the Sunday morning political bitchfests this morning, so thanks CBD, for the update.

Cheney has more substance of thought in the turds he flushes in the morning, than the whole democrat party, combined.

Add a fingernail clipping from his little finger, and he out thinks the media, too.

How 'bout adding Cheney to the rotation of Press Secretary of the Week? He could keep reminding them of the fact that "we don't need you guys, anymore".

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 04, 2016 12:20 PM (v5iqM)

19 He's at the point where we don't need you guys anymore.

And I double like it because he said it to a CNN talking head.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 12:20 PM (mpXpK)

20 I would suggest that we now understand " educated" as well indoctrinated . Actual learning has little any more to do with education .

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at December 04, 2016 12:21 PM (uvj0z)

21 there is hope, and maybe people will quit calling Trump ignorant/scattered/childish quite so often, if they look at what has really been done.

... the Lakoff guy that was largely behind "you didn't build that" also thinks Trump is very good at communicating. As a liguist he breaks down his style, but of course claims it is all to deceive us, because Lakoff is also wears the hat of a progressive propagandist.

Lakoff himself is the one using the "dog whistles", like his use of AK-47s, while stating civilian carry laws are wrong, and citizens were only allowed muskets for fighting the Brits. But his linguist observations are interesting.
ttp://tinyurl.com/jk9ggqh

and I found this analysis of Lakoff by zombie at PJ in 2012, enlightening as well, and applicable to how they use language to push their narrative.
http://tinyurl.com/jdjjpeq

Posted by: illiniwek at December 04, 2016 12:22 PM (pS/eA)

22 Have said it before: the mindless hysteria in reactions to Trump is not a phase, it's a definitive demonstration of the seriousness and intellectual caliber of those exhibiting it. If you don't judge those exhibiting it accordingly, you're just ignoring reality.

Which ties in to something else someone here said.

The bit about Trump being reckless and crazy and unstable and ...... eleventy!! This was a staple delusion of not just the airheads of the press or the NPR-listening cohort, but "right of center" sorts as well (ahemm, incl. rightcha here at the HQ).

I found this fascinating, well somewhat, and repeatedly asked for facts and information on which these near-hysterical concerns were based. What rash, destructive, important ACTIONS were in Trump's background? Not words, actions, involving important real-world matters.

Have yet to see even a weak or disingenuous attempt to even touch that simple, obvious question.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2016 12:22 PM (QDnY+)

23
I wish Dick Cheney was younger and healthier for the SOS slot.

Posted by: YIKES! at December 04, 2016 12:22 PM (yfObW)

24 At the start of the primaries, my first choice was Scott Walker, then Rand Paul. But after that I was Trump all the way.

Initially, my support was strategic in that I thought that he had the best chance of winning the general election. This was at a time when virtually all the pundits and "experts" were certain that he would lose to Hillary in a landslide.

Yes, he did seem crude and boorish, like the Rodney Dangerfield character in "Caddyshack". I could see how that was off-putting to many.

But as time wore on, I found myself genuinely liking the guy more and more. The thing that made me really sit up and take notice was at the Iowa State Fair last year when he gave children rides in his private helicopter. I thought, "For a non-politician, he's really good at this." That little stunt sucked all the oxygen out of the room and made him the lead story.

And Scott Adams has been consistently right about him from the get-go. Among all the wacky and improbable events of this campaign, who would have thought that a cartoonist would turn out to be the most prescient political observer in the country?

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 12:22 PM (sdi6R)

25 ...which makes me, by the transitive property of thinking, a serious thinker. Posted by: CBD

****

I follow my usual pattern, speak before I think. It's gotten me to where I am today.

Posted by: Muldoon, private citizen at December 04, 2016 12:23 PM (wPiJc)

26 Maybe Trump won't even have a Press Secretary. Just let an intern pass out a summary of links to tweets and YouTube video for the old school press.

My vote is stiff for Chris Plante, he brings to scorn hard.

Posted by: Jean at December 04, 2016 12:23 PM (yFbI+)

27 I found this fascinating, well somewhat, and repeatedly asked for facts
and information on which these near-hysterical concerns were based.
What rash, destructive, important ACTIONS were in Trump's background?
Not words, actions, involving important real-world matters.
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What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Michelle Fields at December 04, 2016 12:25 PM (3Liv/)

28 Alway loved how Leftists portrayed Dick Cheney as Darth Vader which only means he lived in their head.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 12:25 PM (5sOEp)

29 What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Michelle Fields

No! Chopped liver has a purpose

Posted by: Garfield the Cat at December 04, 2016 12:26 PM (yFbI+)

30 Already a better president than SCOAMF and he hasn't been inaugurated yet.

Posted by: real joe at December 04, 2016 12:27 PM (2gGwJ)

31 if trump does nothing else, his attitude toward the media is a lesson for anybody running against a prog. kissing the medias' ass gets you nowhere. see romney, w bush, mccain etc. the media is as dangerous to this country as isis. they are the enemy.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 04, 2016 12:27 PM (KP5rU)

32 Some Pundit on the radio mentioned Trumps style could mean (there were a few mentioned) he might be the Bully pulpit and let his administration people do what they need to do without top down interference. With the people Trump has picked that would be a dream

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 12:29 PM (5sOEp)

33 I remember watching Cheney's speech at the 2000 Republican convention and thinking that Cheney-Bush would have been a stronger ticket than Bush-Cheney.

He wouldn't have won, of course. Bush barely eked out a win and he was much less intimidating to the muddled middle than Cheney.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 12:29 PM (sdi6R)

34 if trump does nothing else, his attitude toward the media is a lesson for anybody running against a prog. kissing the medias' ass gets you nowhere. see romney, w bush, mccain etc. the media is as dangerous to this country as isis. they are the enemy.

***

It's been so long since the media has had to deal with an alpha male that they have no idea how to deal with it. Even better, between Pence's calm, thoughtful, unflappable manner, and Trump's take-no-prisoners, call-it-as-he-sees-it behavior, they keep the media completely off balance.

I like it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 04, 2016 12:31 PM (SEXy3)

35 Should have asked Barb if she liked to hunt. Missed opportunity.

Posted by: Darth Cheney at December 04, 2016 12:31 PM (Tyii7)

36 Nope, nope yet again.

The press is not "dead", you cannot just "go around" them. This - in its over-simplified version - is the silliest right-wing death beast meme du jour.

Yes, of course, social media and the 'net give Trump and others skilled in their use new avenues to get word out, to correct slanders and lies, etc.

But the point is you still have to engage the massive, comprehensive, systematic distortion that constitutes "news" today. In detail, and relentlessly.

That's for the press secretary, and select cabinet members if they have the ability (like Cheney, and Newt, have demonstrated frequently). Trump can stick to Twatter-type zingers on occasion. But while helpful and novel, it does not mean the press is dead, or that the electorate is still not mostly toiling in a make-believe world of the press' creation. It is.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2016 12:31 PM (QDnY+)

37 It's nice to see Cheney back on the air again. He even looks reasonably healthy. It sure seemed to be touch and go for awhile. He's got that healthy glow back.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 12:31 PM (lJW6d)

38 Seeing the media put in place is like the Berlin Wall coming down in '89. It's a whole new era.

Out here in Seattle all the local network news are running the "love us because we are your neighbors" ads. Feel good bullshit.
I laugh.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2016 12:32 PM (0tfLf)

39 dennis miller for press secretary would be the best.the media would be twisting themselves in knots after the first sentence. martha radditz hardest hit. dammit i want them embarrassed every day.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 04, 2016 12:32 PM (KP5rU)

40 Oh, yeah, Chavez. That would be epic. You'd have people tuning in from around the world just for the daily briefings. Sort of like the daily Rumsfeld briefings in the early Bush war days.

Good times.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 12:33 PM (lJW6d)

41 ---
That sucks, dude.

Some of us get to enjoy both his blustery chaotic pronouncements *and* his concrete actions.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2016 12:11 PM (3Liv/)

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You know what the President -Elect needs?

More bluster!

Posted by: Christopher Walken at December 04, 2016 12:33 PM (r7E9R)

42 If I was Trump I would kick the press completely out of the WH. They could come in only when I called a press conference and then they would have to leave.

I would also have every press conference filmed in parallel with the press and when they lied about what he said I would post it on the internet.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 12:34 PM (mpXpK)

43 Just the way I like my Cheney - extra spicy.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2016 12:35 PM (Zokmo)

44 Big family party last night. Mr. Gem says I outed myself as a Trumpkin. Hey, I nodded along when my cousin sputtered that Trump was arrogant and impulsive because I concur. But I mildly disagreed when my aunt said "he watched Melania vote because he wasn't sure she would vote for him and that tells ya something " (wise nod), and I said maybe she asked him a question or maybe he just wanted the thrill of watching his beautiful wife vote for him for President of the United States. I guess that was enough to out me, lol. No one asked me outright, but if they did I would have admitted it. They know, or knew, I was a Republican during the W years.

Posted by: Gem at December 04, 2016 12:35 PM (uaHyk)

45 Look at me! Look at me!

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at December 04, 2016 12:35 PM (FqgrG)

46 40: thesarus sales and apps through the roof.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 04, 2016 12:35 PM (KP5rU)

47 36,
3 words.
Ronald Wilson Reagan

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 04, 2016 12:36 PM (C9pBZ)

48 32 Some Pundit on the radio mentioned Trumps style could mean (there were a few mentioned) he might be the Bully pulpit and let his administration people do what they need to do without top down interference. With the people Trump has picked that would be a dream
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 12:29 PM (5sOEp)

A good leader/manager knows how to hire the best people, delegate authority, and let them go to work and do their jobs. They say that Reagan had that ability, and it sure looks like Trump does, too.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 12:37 PM (sdi6R)

49 37 It's nice to see Cheney back on the air again. He even looks reasonably healthy. It sure seemed to be touch and go for awhile. He's got that healthy glow back.
Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 12:31 PM (lJW6d)

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He's been on a steady diet of Liberal Tears the past few weeks.

It does wonders..

I highly recommend twice a day dosing

Posted by: Christopher Walken at December 04, 2016 12:37 PM (r7E9R)

50 MSM delenda est!

Keep on tweeting!

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 12:37 PM (bQxkN)

51 LOL Newsweek farmed out the whole "Madame President" issue and nobody at the magazine even read it.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/250914/

Posted by: steevy at December 04, 2016 12:37 PM (r/0kC)

52 Look at me! Look at me!

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at December 04, 2016 12:35 PM (FqgrG)

No, no, look at me!!!!!

Posted by: Jill "Attention Whore for 'the voters' " Stein at December 04, 2016 12:37 PM (3Liv/)

53 We need to start a Dennis Miller for Press Sec grass roots movement. Right here, right now!

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 12:37 PM (lJW6d)

54 The media do not have a bias; they have an agenda (as does the academic left). The media's war on Trump will continue unabated because he is a threat to its agenda. Cheney's comment exposes the media's kryptonite; the ability to bypass the media and talk directly to the electorate. Without the media filter, its agenda has not a chance in hell.

Posted by: IanDeal at December 04, 2016 12:39 PM (teGBX)

55 But while helpful and novel, it does not mean the press is dead, or that the electorate is still not mostly toiling in a make-believe world of the press' creation. It is.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2016 12:31 PM (QDnY+)
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rhomboid, I doubt that anyone here seriously thinks that the press is dead, or even mostly dead. We are just finding joy watching Trump start to put them in their place. This is step one. That's all.

I do think Trump will do what you suggest - engage in more detail as his Cabinet gets put in place, and so forth. But heck, for less than a month as PE, I'm finding joy in what he's done so far with regard to the press.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2016 12:40 PM (Zokmo)

56 52: are you still a thing? should have used some of that green for a makeover and a visit to a real dentist. oh, did hildebeast hire nikki sixx to do her makeup now? i guess he has nothing else going on.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 04, 2016 12:40 PM (KP5rU)

57 LE is reporting Jill is going to Fed Court (wonder who they will favor) to force Pa to do a recount and I take it will be on my dime unlike Wisconsin who Jill had to pony up for.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 12:41 PM (5sOEp)

58 Ive been on Trump for a while, I had believed He was our only tool to Get the establishment to Hear the peoples concerns, instead of the perpetual lies and smothering of our feathers , while doing as They will for their COC and corporate bosses and such. This was the only way to get them to Perk their ears, if they are also insulted by the pure audacity of it,

so.be.it.

still this needs to be two pronged while we the people try to pull their ears to hear, we also need to do as the left does and make it hurt re advertisers, corporate heads , selling, buying, that We do not mind their flourishing, but not at Americas expense.

jmho

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2016 12:41 PM (R7cwD)

59 I also was a reluctant Trump supporter. In fact, after the convention, I confided to some friends that for the first time in my voting life, I would not be casting a vote for president. They pointed out a few things which caused me to pay closer attention. I started making an effort to watch his rallies as much as possible. I really started liking the guy and couldn't wait to vote for him. I still don't agree with him on a few points, but I am now a huge supporter. I like what he has already accomplished... and nominating Mattis is a highlight. I can't remember when I felt this enthusiastic about a new president. For the first time in decades, I am actually hopeful. I may have to change my screen name!

Posted by: itsacookbook at December 04, 2016 12:42 PM (yPxXc)

60 Look at me! Look at me!

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at December 04, 2016 12:35 PM (FqgrG)

No, no, look at me!!!!!
Posted by: Jill "Attention Whore for 'the voters' " Stein at December 04, 2016 12:37 PM (3Liv

Did someone call meeee?

Posted by: Megan Kelly and my super duper mind powers. And did I mention I have a book at December 04, 2016 12:42 PM (r7E9R)

61 Megan really does need to expose her wares elsewhere

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2016 12:43 PM (R7cwD)

62 If we take Cheney's "He's at the point where we don't need you guys any more" comment as truth, or at least as emerging truth, what should the MSM do? And what WILL they do?

In the UK there are different newspapers for every political preference and market. Does the US MSM split with one or two rebels doing what Fox did before they lost the plot? Or does the herd mentality prevail?

And if YouTube and Twitter and FB decide they prefer the company of the herd and start to block this disruptor, then what?

I'm optimistic that out of all this winnowing, good things will result. But in the process, the dissonance will be epic. Minds will be changed, and people will come to their senses one at a time.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 04, 2016 12:44 PM (rB/gm)

63 "But the point is you still have to engage the massive, comprehensive, systematic distortion that constitutes "news" today. In detail, and relentlessly."

In particular, Sunday morning shows and other MSM outlets are pushing memes that need to be killed:

"There was no meaningful fraud in the election. Hillary won the popular vote by 2.5 million cleanly."

"Comey's two letters cost Hillary the election. His sending them was a hyper-partisan violation of Justice Department rules."

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 12:44 PM (bQxkN)

64 I wonder if Trump reizes that between Duerte and the Taiwan call he gave a giant FU to China.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at December 04, 2016 12:44 PM (iI1+4)

65 The MSM has grown obsolete. Yes, they will still blather and stammer and scream about this or that but busy people, people with lives, intelligent people, people who know how to use technology, people who want more than the old standard Party line, these are who voted for Trump and can get his message without them.
They are a wounded animal. Dangerous, but soon will bleed out. They refuse to change, they are beholden to the old ways of Cronkite, that old Marxist.

Can we borrow that Soviet Jeep from the Cubans when they are finished to use for the MSM?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 04, 2016 12:44 PM (ej1L0)

66 I so hope CNN can scrape together the money to hire Megyn Kelly.

Posted by: steevy at December 04, 2016 12:44 PM (r/0kC)

67 I evolved into a Trump fan as well. (Was originally a Walker fan, as he's been a great governor her in WI.) I started out with one, and only one, issue. The Supreme Court. Everything else is just frosting on the cake as far as I'm concerned. And it's turning out just "Fabulous"!

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 12:45 PM (lJW6d)

68 Won't even guess what "anti-mainstream" is supposed
to mean, but will enjoy that one (first time I've seen it), and note
that it is the equivalent of "anti-good stuff that we like and people
like you SHOULD like, and stuff, or something". Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2016 12:16 PM (QDnY+)
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As far as I know, Austria is a 'do-over' because of 'irregularities'. Heh. Keep on with recounts until you get the result you want.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 04, 2016 12:45 PM (MIKMs)

69 Love Darth Cheney!... OT/ but I see that bitch Stein is not giving up... She's going to Federal Court to force a vote in Penn. I also saw where a group is trying to force a vote in FL.

Posted by: deplorable donna at December 04, 2016 12:45 PM (O2RFr)

70 bluebell, nobody's enjoying parts of this more than I am - nobody. Partly owing to having been involved in parts of it in the past.

Just pointing out that "going around" the press is only part of the needed formula. Confronting the substance of their distortions directly, over time, is the only way to make progress that might outlive a passing political mood.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2016 12:45 PM (QDnY+)

71 Posted by: steevy at December 04, 2016 12:37 PM (r/0kC)

All the content was provided by the hack writers at the DNC.

Friday I posted a link to a youtube that described Scankles going off after the Matt Lauer interview where he dared to ask her one unapproved question.

In the midst of her meltdown, she screamed for her staff to get her the top execs of major media outlets, including Comcast. She was going to instruct them on how to manage this latest crisis.

the Klinton Krime Klan had so much of legacy media in their pocket.

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2016 12:45 PM (jkmtt)

72 61 Megan really does need to expose her wares elsewhere
Posted by: willow

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Do you have the address of this place called elsewhere?

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 12:46 PM (r7E9R)

73 Keep on with recounts until you get the result you want.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 04, 2016 12:45 PM (MIKMs)
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Einstein's definition of insanity, election edition.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2016 12:46 PM (Zokmo)

74 force a vote

Should have said vote recount...

Posted by: deplorable donna at December 04, 2016 12:46 PM (O2RFr)

75 hair guy- cnnmaybe.com

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2016 12:46 PM (R7cwD)

76 12 Status quo foreign policy stalwarts will be the last ones to come around but already seem to be bending a little. Winston Lord described Trump on the one hand as "impulsive" and "ignorant", but on the other said he thought a measured reaching out to Taiwan would be a good way to begin to reign in expansionist China.
Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2016 12:16 PM (sCBEO)

It was an impulsive and ignorant way to conduct a measured reaching out. Would that be about right?

Cheney weighed in on Trump's not needing the media anymore. He should have gone on to say he also doesn't need the status quo foreign policy stalwarts anymore. Let's face it, they've done a shitty job heretofore. "You're fired!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 12:47 PM (SRKgf)

77 Iet Jill go to red court. Then Trump can point to Precident and say the feds are now able to tell States what voter I'd laws they need for the next election.

Chicago hardest hit.

Posted by: Bete celebrating at December 04, 2016 12:47 PM (Ojki1)

78 Informed sources say CBS to offer Megyn Kelly 150 bazillion gazillion dollars! You heard it here first!

Posted by: Really Not Megyn Kelly at December 04, 2016 12:49 PM (qJhUV)

79 rhomboid , how do we find a larger scream than the shrill cries of the perpetual msprogressive machine, I have been perplexed since I noticed during Boosh how one sidec this has been.

where are our ideas?
our ideas are free-er even if we disagree we do actually say you can say it you may think it, , what happened to Our ideology?
and where are our mouthpieces other than blogs?

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2016 12:49 PM (R7cwD)

80 The joke on AoS was that if Dennis Miller was press secretary, every reporter would need to carry a book of pop culture, art, world history, and French and Latin phrases.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 04, 2016 12:49 PM (VdICR)

81 Always like Cheney! This is reassuring to hear from him.

Also, this is interesting: Trump didn't just make the MSM irelevent, he's beaten pop culture/celebrities. Heh

This year will be remembered for its toxic fluff. Provocateurs and
dime-store Howard Beales such as Seth Meyers, John Oliver, Lena Dunham
and Andy Richter have demonstrated zero political efficacy. If anything, we'll never know
how much their smugness ostracized potential allies and inflamed the
opposition's base. No one --- even the undereducated and marginalized --- enjoys being condescended to. And yet, part of the Democratic strategy
was to talk down to the citizens of America or to shame them into not
voting for Trump.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hus9jbl

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2016 12:49 PM (NOIQH)

82 Just pointing out that "going around" the press is only part of the needed formula. Confronting the substance of their distortions directly, over time, is the only way to make progress that might outlive a passing political mood.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2016 12:45 PM (QDnY+)

With respect, I think you're missing a critical piece. By going around the MSM he is providing an alternative viewpoint that underscores and highlights their day-to-day distortions. He is, in effect, providing long-needed competition to the MSM, so he IS confronting them, and in the process, undermining their credibility in the long term.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 12:50 PM (SRKgf)

83 This is reassuring. Though I'm very glad he won, and I like most of what he's doing now, I'm still wary of him and think he needs to be kept on a short leash by his staff and supporters. Constructive criticism should be welcome. Even his big supporter Palin is against the carrier deal.

I'm thrilled with the Mattis appointment, and if Trump can really succeed in helping destroy the enemy media, that alone will have justified my vote.

Posted by: stace, deplorable at last at December 04, 2016 12:50 PM (ozZau)

84 78 Informed sources say CBS to offer Megyn Kelly 150 bazillion gazillion dollars! You heard it here first!
Posted by: Really Not Megyn Kelly at December 04, 2016 12:49 PM (qJhUV)

Wow, she must be really great! How much cash do we have on hand?

Posted by: MSNBC at December 04, 2016 12:50 PM (92kX2)

85 Just pointing out that "going around" the press is only part of the needed formula. Confronting the substance of their distortions directly, over time, is the only way to make progress that might outlive a passing political mood.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2016 12:45 PM (QDnY+)
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And I agree.

I am very curious as to whom Trump will choose as press secretary. I'm glad he's taking his time with that one.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2016 12:50 PM (Zokmo)

86 57
LE is reporting Jill is going to Fed Court (wonder who they will favor)
to force Pa to do a recount and I take it will be on my dime unlike
Wisconsin who Jill had to pony up for.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 12:41 PM (5sOEp)

Yeah, and she will have to do some serious judge shopping to find one who will give her "standing" since she has none.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 12:51 PM (mpXpK)

87 I could be wrong but progressive seems nothing more than 'who will pay the most to us, politicians' than an actual idea, beyond that which will keep the peoples agitated and not looking at them.

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2016 12:52 PM (R7cwD)

88 'That little stunt sucked all the oxygen out of the room and made him the lead story.'

Wasn't Martha Ratditz or somebody like that on the helicopter too?

Posted by: freaked at December 04, 2016 12:52 PM (BO/km)

89 >>The joke on AoS was that if Dennis Miller was press secretary, every
reporter would need to carry a book of pop culture, art, world history,
and French and Latin phrases.

Listened to Miller's radio show for years and the guy sure seems to be a voracious reader - he is interested in everything. Can only imagine the references that he could lob over the WH press' heads on a daily basis.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2016 12:52 PM (NOIQH)

90 77 Iet Jill go to red court. Then Trump can point to precedent and say the feds are now able to tell states what voter ID laws they need for the next election.
Chicago hardest hit.
Posted by: Bete celebrating at December 04, 2016 12:47 PM (Ojki1)

Fed court, Red court. Both work.

And you're right: if the Feds have power over elections, then they logically have power over how the elections are conducted. Voter ID, here we come!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 12:52 PM (SRKgf)

91 hair guy- cnnmaybe.com
Posted by: willow at December 04, 2016 12:46 PM (R7cwD)

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Willows, I'm thinking you aren't a guy because...

Expose her wares is guyspeak for show us your boobies..

No I must go and Mansplain to the needy among us out there..

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 12:52 PM (r7E9R)

92 Ignoramus @63, precisely. Examples of what I'm talking about.

Reagan, on a host of important issues, prevailed despite the press; Dubya, on fewer but still key matters, also prevailed (for a time). But the impact of both was tremendously limited by the press and its stranglehold on the framework most Americans use to "understand" public policy.

Since then two trends: more "workarounds" or tools to conduct the fight (social media, internet), and ..... a dumbed-down electorate with instincts vastly different than Reagan-era "Reagan Democrats" (see: election and re-election of a preposterous nothingburger, Obama). One positive development, one disastrous trend that is the result of generational change and educational collapse/conversion.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2016 12:54 PM (QDnY+)

93 In the Obama years, MSM consolidated its messaging to an alarming degree. This was often co-ordinated through the White House with Favreau and Rhodes calling the tune, with Obama and Jarrett directing. The White House had great influence as it controlled access and made it easy for journolists to succeed by playing along.

So who takes this over? Center for American Progress? Obama in Retirement? Or does it diffuse?

Will Trump continue War with MSM, and add the power of the White House to his Mad Media Skilzz?

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 12:54 PM (bQxkN)

94 the guy, while i'm not a guy, I know wares as I have used them myself. cnn seems a perfect fit, all boobs.

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2016 12:55 PM (R7cwD)

95 62
In the UK there are different newspapers for every political preference and market.
Posted by: Halfwise at December 04, 2016 12:44 PM (rB/gm)

That used to be the case in the U.S. Most cities had several newspapers which were owned by people of varying political persuasions. I think that was healthier that the pretense of "objectivity" they have today.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 12:58 PM (sdi6R)

96 94 the guy, while i'm not a guy, I know wares as I have used them myself. cnn seems a perfect fit, all boobs.
Posted by: willow at December 04, 2016 12:55 PM (R7cwD)

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"I know wares as I have used them myself".

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I bow before your magnificence.

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 12:58 PM (r7E9R)

97 Wow, she must be really great! How much cash do we have on hand?

Posted by: MSNBC at December 04, 2016 12:50 PM (92kX2)
This just in! Informed sources say MSNBC to offer Megyn Kelly 200 bazillion gazillion dollars! You heard it here first!

Posted by: Really Not Megyn Kelly at December 04, 2016 12:59 PM (qJhUV)

98 It's been so long since the media has had to deal
with an alpha male that they have no idea how to deal with it. Even
better, between Pence's calm, thoughtful, unflappable manner, and
Trump's take-no-prisoners, call-it-as-he-sees-it behavior, they keep the
media completely off balance.

I like it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

This just in:
Gen. James Mattis surprised the press corps during his first press conference by taking a flamethrower to them, followed by running an M-1 through the ashes. After all that, he called them a bunch of pussies and asked if anyone had a question.

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2016 01:00 PM (LAe3v)

99 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 12:51 PM (mpXpK)

I just made the mistake of going to her website to read the latest statement re: PA recount.

The main reason Scankles/soros made her drop the state lawsuit was that the judge required $1MM bond. So Scankles/Soros braintrust decided that Fed court is obviously the way forward. Stein called the bond demand "ransom". She railed against the inequities of the PA voting system...which is set up exactly the same as it had been in 2008 and 2012 when the donkeycrats won.

This is just is just an insanity sandwich with a rubbish filling. UFB

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2016 01:00 PM (jkmtt)

100 tku

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2016 01:00 PM (R7cwD)

101 What's this about boobs?

Posted by: Weasel at December 04, 2016 01:00 PM (Sfs6o)

102 More bluster!

Posted by: Christopher Walken

*****

FILIBLUSTER
n. (fil'-uh-bluh-ster) - (etym: aoshq neologism) - An oratory tactic that prevents one's political opponents from pushing their own agenda as the default position by boorishly occupying all of the allotted time.

Posted by: Muldoon, private citizen at December 04, 2016 01:01 PM (wPiJc)

103 OT, but guns. Anyone want an Air-zooka? (other than me, I mean)

http://tinyurl.com/zb73o26

As far as Trump outreach through the press goes I try to remember the goal is to have his words reported to the people for them to interpret as they see fit, as opposed to Trump offering the Propaganda Press a jumping off point to go on regular rants.

A youtube channel serves that goal better than an AP article.

Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2016 01:02 PM (sCBEO)

104 This just in:
Gen. James Mattis surprised the press corps during his first press conference by taking a flamethrower to them, followed by running an M-1 through the ashes. After all that, he called them a bunch of pussies and asked if anyone had a question.

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2016 01:00 PM (LAe3v)

This too just in: Gen. Mattis has just announced that Bergdahl's execution will be on PPV.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:02 PM (SRKgf)

105 >>>which makes me, by the transitive property of thinking, a serious thinker.

I don't think that's the transitive property. Transitive is like a comparison.

i) Joe Biden is dumber than Colin Kaepernick
ii) Colin Kaepernick is dumber than Paul Krugman
Ergo, by transitivity
iii) Joe Biden is dumber than Paul Krugman

I'm confident TPOP will back me up on this, since he's a mathematician.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 01:02 PM (QlyN5)

106 What's this about boobs?
Posted by: Weasel at December 04, 2016 01

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Megan Kelly is gonna put her boobs on CNN, and willow is going to show us how to use them..

I think.

I hope.

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 01:03 PM (r7E9R)

107 I for one am glad we've finally got to boobs. The silence was starting to wear on me.

Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2016 01:03 PM (sCBEO)

108 I suspect Soros/Hillary are pushing the recounts because it distracts from real massive voting fraud including by Illegals using state-issued driver's license

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 01:03 PM (bQxkN)

109 As far as Trump outreach through the press goes I try to remember the goal is to have his words reported to the people for them to interpret as they see fit, as opposed to Trump offering the Propaganda Press a jumping off point to go on regular rants.

A youtube channel serves that goal better than an AP article.

Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2016 01:02 PM (sCBEO)

And it undercuts the raison d'etre of the MSM. Why go to them to find out, when they themselves go to Youtube to find out? Why not just go to Youtube yourself, and cut out the middle man?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:04 PM (SRKgf)

110 Birds and the Bengals, not much meaning this year but more for the future.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 01:04 PM (5sOEp)

111 The joke on AoS was that if Dennis Miller was press secretary, every
reporter would need to carry a book of pop culture, art, world history,
and French and Latin phrases.

The Daily Mirror Book Of Facts

Posted by: Toxteth O'Grady, 604 at December 04, 2016 01:04 PM (7COaW)

112
Simple Simon met a pieman Going to the fair; Says Simple Simon to the pieman, "Let me taste your ware."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2016 01:04 PM (IqV8l)

113 Whatever happened to the Naked News channel? That was a profoundly excellent idea.

Posted by: Weasel at December 04, 2016 01:04 PM (Sfs6o)

114 >>This too just in: Gen. Mattis has just announced that Bergdahl's execution will be on PPV.

*gulp!*

Posted by: Nidal Hassan and Chelsea Manning at December 04, 2016 01:04 PM (NOIQH)

115 I don't think that's the transitive property. Transitive is like a comparison.

i) Joe Biden is dumber than Colin Kaepernick

ii) Colin Kaepernick is dumber than Paul Krugman

Ergo, by transitivity

iii) Joe Biden is dumber than Paul Krugman

I'm confident TPOP will back me up on this, since he's a mathematician.

No, no, no. That's the associative property. As in, I associate Barack Obama with a well-used BOD.

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2016 01:04 PM (LAe3v)

116 My impression of Donald Trump is that he doesn't really know what to do as president but will learn fast and is doing the right thing by surrounding himself with people who DO know what they are doing and can advise him and do what he wants done.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:05 PM (39g3+)

117 LE is reporting Jill is going to Fed Court (wonder who they will favor) to force Pa to do a recount and I take it will be on my dime unlike Wisconsin who Jill had to pony up for.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 12:41 PM (5sOEp)

A flanking maneuver by the Clinton/Stein/Abama/Soros complex. These people really hate America. God, save us.

Posted by: gNewt at December 04, 2016 01:05 PM (7oPmA)

118
1. Alabama
2. OSU
3. Clemson
4. Washington

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:05 PM (0F67M)

119 FILIBLUSTER
n. (fil'-uh-bluh-ster) - (etym: aoshq neologism) - An oratory tactic that prevents one's political opponents from pushing their own agenda as the default position by boorishly occupying all of the allotted time.
Posted by: Muldoon, private citizen at December 04, 2016 01:01 PM (wPiJc

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I'm stealing that...

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 01:06 PM (r7E9R)

120 So there it is.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:06 PM (0F67M)

121 Penn State left off at #5

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:07 PM (0F67M)

122 But yes, I believe Donald Trump has worked out that he doesn't need the press to reach the public and will be bypassing them regularly. They showed him contempt, derision, and hatred and he will give it right back tenfold. This is not a man who is willing to forget things in order to get along. He does not need them, he will not get along.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:07 PM (39g3+)

123 And it undercuts the raison d'etre of the MSM. Why go to them to find out, when they themselves go to Youtube to find out? Why not just go to Youtube yourself, and cut out the middle man?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:04 PM (SRKgf)

Trump developed a new business model for YouTube. The man is creating more business for America even before he assumes office.

Posted by: gNewt at December 04, 2016 01:09 PM (7oPmA)

124 IT is absolutely ridiculous that Clemson and Washington are predicted to rank higher than Michigan. Their very much weaker schedules don't matter?

Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2016 01:10 PM (sCBEO)

125 1. Alabama
2. OSU
3. Clemson
4. Washington
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:05 PM (0F67M)

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As someone (grump) stated on the football thread.

Alabama

and some other teams...

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 01:10 PM (r7E9R)

126 These people really hate America. God, save us.

The verbiage of Stein's latest missive about their attempt to avoid PA's recount process is a diatribe against the constitutional fail safes put in place by our state's legislators, who by the way were acting ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE.

Soros/Scankles/Obama/Stein are throwing a hissy fit and revealing their true tyrannical colors.

Yes, they are going judge shopping. Can't wait to see how this move turns out for them.

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2016 01:10 PM (jkmtt)

127 Not to be pedantic, but if Cheney is a serious thinker, and you have had a similar thought, all that means is that you can have confidence in this instance that you are probably correct. It doesn't mean that in general you are a serious thinker.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 01:10 PM (QlyN5)

128 Has anybody here purchased a copy of Newsweek's "Dewey Defeats Truman" edition? It would be a great addition to any coffee table and a delightful way to troll sans trolling.

If any of one's lefty friends notices it, one could sigh wistfully and silently ponder "What if?".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 04, 2016 01:11 PM (EnKk6)

129 As someone (grump) stated on the football thread.

Alabama

and some other teams...

I laughed but it wasn't me. To me, Alabama is not the number one team. Top 4, sure. Has a chance to win out, yes. But I could see them losing in either round, or winning.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:12 PM (0F67M)

130 121 Penn State left off at #5
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December

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I think they are in the Reach Around Bowl, aren't they?

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 01:12 PM (r7E9R)

131 It was an impulsive and ignorant way to conduct a measured reaching out. Would that be about right?

===========================

Yes Jay, I think that's the consensus that's emerging, if I understand what they are saying. They don't like him at all but they seem to like the phone call idea, especially since its been done undercover of "President Elect" status, a opposed to official Presidential status.

Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2016 01:12 PM (sCBEO)

132 Not to be pedantic, but if Cheney is a serious thinker, and you have had a similar thought, all that means is that you can have confidence in this instance that you are probably correct. It doesn't mean that in general you are a serious thinker.

***

Get a sense of humor.

Seriously.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 04, 2016 01:13 PM (SEXy3)

133 127 Not to be pedantic, but if Cheney is a serious thinker, and you have had a similar thought, all that means is that you can have confidence in this instance that you are probably correct. It doesn't mean that in general you are a serious thinker.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 01:10 PM (QlyN5)
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I see you are of the Roethlisberger school.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 04, 2016 01:13 PM (EnKk6)

134 116 My impression of Donald Trump is that he doesn't really know what to do as president but will learn fast and is doing the right thing by surrounding himself with people who DO know what they are doing and can advise him and do what he wants done.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:05 PM (39g3+)

That's exactly the reason I supported Sarah Palin. I thought she had the ability to do that.

I like the old saying, "First rate people hire first rate people. Second rate people hire third rate people."

It means that leaders who are strong and confident want the best people they can find on their team, while leaders who are weak and insecure are desperately afraid of being outshone by their underlings.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 01:13 PM (sdi6R)

135 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE WAS EXPLAINING THE JOKE.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at December 04, 2016 01:14 PM (0F67M)

136 I'm thinking those signed Newsweek Hillary won covers are going to be worth a lot of money

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:15 PM (39g3+)

137 "Not to be pedantic"

Yes you are.

Posted by: Chris M at December 04, 2016 01:15 PM (6RZos)

138 I laughed but it wasn't me. To me, Alabama is not the number one team. Top 4, sure. Has a chance to win out, yes. But I could see them losing in either round, or winning.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:12 PM (0F67M)

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So who ya got as #1 Grump?

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 01:15 PM (r7E9R)

139 >>...while leaders who are weak and insecure are desperately afraid of being outshone by their underlings.

Wait...whut?
*shits eyes*

Who's up for an end-of-the-world beer pong party?????

Posted by: Tommy Veitor, Marie Hark, David Rhodes, Jon Favreau at December 04, 2016 01:16 PM (NOIQH)

140 133 127 Not to be pedantic, but if Cheney is a serious thinker, and you have had a similar thought, all that means is that you can have confidence in this instance that you are probably correct. It doesn't mean that in general you are a serious thinker.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 01:10 PM (QlyN5)

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"Nothing goes over my head, my reflexes are too fast and I would catch it".

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 01:17 PM (r7E9R)

141 So who ya got as #1 Grump?

I don't think there is a clear cut superior team. It's a 4 way tie, so it will be exciting to watch. I tend to discount the Clemson because, *cough* ACC *cough* but their QB is the real deal.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:17 PM (0F67M)

142 Oh, my....typo. LOL!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2016 01:17 PM (NOIQH)

143 It means that leaders who are strong and confident want the best people
they can find on their team, while leaders who are weak and insecure are
desperately afraid of being outshone by their underlings.

That was Barack's strategy in hiring Joey Paste-Eater. How sad for him that Biden is often the more lucid one.

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2016 01:17 PM (LAe3v)

144 This is my problem with Cheney. And no, I'm not a serious thinker.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jupcecn

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 01:17 PM (QlyN5)

145 One of these days, Alabama will have to have a "building year".

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:18 PM (0F67M)

146 They showed him contempt, derision, and hatred and he will give it right back tenfold. This is not a man who is willing to forget things in order to get along. He does not need them, he will not get along.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:07 PM (39g3+)

Yup...Any harm visited upon Trump by the MSM will be visited tenfold upon their heads.

By God Sir, Trump will not abide another toe.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 04, 2016 01:18 PM (ej1L0)

147 By God Sir, Trump will not abide another toe.

I have no idea what this means, but I like it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:19 PM (0F67M)

148 Trump developed a new business model for YouTube. The man is creating more business for America even before he assumes office.

Posted by: gNewt at December 04, 2016 01:09 PM (7oPmA)

Yes.

What do you call someone who shatters the existing paradigm and establishes an entirely new one?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:20 PM (SRKgf)

149 145, CNS' 1st year

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 04, 2016 01:21 PM (M3DRt)

150
By God Sir, Trump will not abide another toe.

I have no idea what this means, but I like it.

I think it puts you off balance.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2016 01:22 PM (IqV8l)

151 It's been so long since the media has had to deal with an alpha male that they have no idea how to deal with it.

Was thinking about this after seeing a clip of Trump walking through the Carrier plant, he just exuded Alpha as he strode with hangers-on surrounding him. Who was the last Alpha at 1600 Pennsylvania?

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2016 01:22 PM (jkmtt)

152 Was thinking about this after seeing a clip of Trump walking through the Carrier plant, he just exuded Alpha as he strode with hangers-on surrounding him. Who was the last Alpha at 1600 Pennsylvania?

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2016 01:22 PM (jkmtt)

Mooch?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:23 PM (SRKgf)

153 Who was the last Alpha at 1600 Pennsylvania?
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2016 01:22 PM (jkmtt)

Barbara Bush......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 04, 2016 01:23 PM (ej1L0)

154 Fox news just had on 2 'Conservative' Women... talk show types..

Who were 'concerned' that Trump saving the Carrier Jobs was a NEGATIVE thing... because they used Tax rebates for it....

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q. at December 04, 2016 01:23 PM (qf6WZ)

155
Won't even guess what "anti-mainstream" is supposed to mean, but will enjoy that one (first time I've seen it), and note that it is the equivalent of "anti-good stuff that we like and people like you SHOULD like, and stuff, or something".
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Anti-mainstream is anything that does not adhere to the liberal agenda of all gay all muslim all the time.

Basically, we're supposed to want our nations filled with violent uneducated muslim men who want will rape our women, impose defacto sharia and, at the same time, require law abiding citizens to work to support them, since they *cannot* work.

The Powers that Be have declared that Islam is our new master, and that we must embrace uneducated, inbred violent half-wits so that their vision of a world without borders and national identities can come true.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 04, 2016 01:24 PM (nFg65)

156
Barbara Bush......
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 04, 2016 01:23 PM (ej1L0)

Who could have predicted that Alpha Male and pearls went so well together?

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2016 01:24 PM (jkmtt)

157 I agree with Dick Cheney on several counts the first is: PE Trump, being, I think even he would admit, thrust unexpectedly into the position of becoming President has steeled him to the task at hand which is the correction of years of catastrophic mismanagement by the previous CEO, oops I mean President, wait maybe I meant CEO? In that respect he is, without a doubt already ahead of the rest of these lifelong politicians vying for there presidency who do not see it as the people's most sacred trust and a humbling and awesome responsibility, but rather the culmination of their own mad quest for power and/or a "deserved" title that justify's the aggrandizement of their own worthless political career. Thus PE trump is weighing options (appointments), taking stands Castro statement talking to Taiwan, etc. that are studied and calculated to these ends. He is precisely the tonic for decades of "insider" political class jockeying and SJWing in DC which is the last thing that everyone ( CA and NY and a few other idiotic blue states excepted) wanted.

Now ~ as to the press I agree that in this world we don't need any "filter" or journalistic self appointed "expert" telling us how to interpret the facts. Thus I would hope that the trend to simply bypass the mainstream press and do things directly to the people is the way to go. I will also expect papers like the Times to slowly but surely go out of business as they end their printed versions and go completely online and the become just one more site to get news from and disappear in the mass ~ with sites like this coming to the fore ~ sites where facts are rounded up posted and then a group of real folks (Horde!!) debate and have fun. You know a place where we are not lectured to ( OK maybe Ace doe lecture a little bit ~ but he let's you know when he is doing it ~ he doesn't present it as "news" or that he is being "objective " when he is anything but ~ like the Times does. That is the future.

Now let's see how he organizes the "White House Press Corps" or is that, as our current idiot president would say, "corpse"? If he simply disbands them as uneccesary in this day and age I will sit up and really take notice . . . of my never-ending schadenboner, that is (hey a guy can dream).

Btw speaking pf our idiot current president and the press corps ~ doe anyone remember him mispronouncing that word when he referred to the press corps ~ ? Did he only mispronounce it with the military rank "corpsman" and not with "press corps"? If so I think that explains a whole hell of a lot about OhBAHMuh dontchya think? Can anyone check to see if they can find him pronouncing Press Corps correctly?

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 04, 2016 01:25 PM (bYiv0)

158 >>LOL Newsweek farmed out the whole "Madame President" issue and nobody at the magazine even read it.

>>https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/250914/

Oh, ick.

That was weird.

Is he lying in saying they didn't read it, so as to pass the buck?

I kinda hope so. Otherwise he's probably highly overpaid if he's a political editor who had nothing to do with the biggest political issue of the year.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 04, 2016 01:25 PM (gTQoY)

159
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

The U.S. is going to substantialy reduce taxes and regulations on businesses, but any business that leaves our country for another country,

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

fires its employees, builds a new factory or plant in the other country, and then thinks it will sell its product back into the U.S. ......

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

without retribution or consequence, is WRONG! There will be a tax on our soon to be strong border of 35% for these companies ......

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago

wanting to sell their product, cars, A.C. units etc., back across the border. This tax will make leaving financially difficult, but.....

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago

these companies are able to move between all 50 states, with no tax or tariff being charged. Please be forewarned prior to making a very ...

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago

expensive mistake! THE UNITED STATES IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:27 PM (0F67M)

160 Is he lying in saying they didn't read it, so as to pass the buck?

--

Oh, I don't believe he didn't read it.

I'm betting that he had it with him in bed with a sock or a towel... if you know what I mean.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 04, 2016 01:27 PM (nFg65)

161 I don't think there is a clear cut superior team. It's a 4 way tie, so it will be exciting to watch. I tend to discount the Clemson because, *cough* ACC *cough* but their QB is the real deal.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:17 PM (0F67M)

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I hear you on the * cough* *cough* hack hack cough* ACC. But I really don't see the tie..Alabama has basically a 7th grader playing QB and they have run the table..SEC is the hardest conference to do this in.

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 01:27 PM (r7E9R)

162 Ahem.

I'm the leader of the glarers.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/250851/

Posted by: ValJar at December 04, 2016 01:27 PM (gTQoY)

163 "What do you call someone who shatters the existing paradigm and establishes an entirely new one?"

A light worker?

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 01:27 PM (bQxkN)

164 Wow, that issue

"No stranger to trudging through the mire of misogyny in her career as First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State, President Clinton managed to push for an issues-based campaign, even as a handful of Trump's deplorable supporters, seeing the wide margin she held among female voters, called for repealing the 19th Amendment."

Whoever wrote that was probably typing with one hand

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:28 PM (39g3+)

165 154
Fox news just had on 2 'Conservative' Women... talk show types..

Who were 'concerned' that Trump saving the Carrier Jobs was a NEGATIVE thing... because they used Tax rebates for it....

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q. at December 04, 2016 01:23 PM (qf6WZ)

Who were they?
They may at least be partially right. We should not be using "specific" tax breaks for companies. What we should be doing is reducing the corporate tax rate permanently for all companies. We have the highest corporate tax rate in the industrial world and that and excessive regulation is killing us in foreign trade.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 01:28 PM (mpXpK)

166 I agree Cheney's assessment is correct, sure. But beyond that I don't really like him. He strikes me as someone who would would put short term interests of his business above America's, and would have no scruples using government as a tool to advance his personal interests. In other words, GOPe. His daughter is homosexual. Where do you think he stands on the issue? Immediate personal expediency trumps any universal moral principles for him.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 01:30 PM (QlyN5)

167 Yeah I'm not fond of the tax breaks to bribe companies to stay in the US either, its at best a short term stop gap until real work can be done, but I fear that's going to be all we see.

Will the GOP congress and Trump fight to weaken unions, reduce regulation, and cut corporate tax rates? Is there a stronger word than skeptical I can use?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:30 PM (39g3+)

168 Alabama has basically a 7th grader playing QB and they have run the table..SEC is the hardest conference to do this in.

Take any of the last 3 games (well maybe no the Iron Bowl) and remove two big takeaways by our defense, and give two to the opponent and we could well have lost. We have the undisputed best run defense, and a stable of running backs. The rest of this team is average, especially the secondary now with the injuries.

I bleed Crimson and White but I won't guarantee a win this year.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:31 PM (0F67M)

169 >> THE UNITED STATES IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS

Here again is Obama saying "what are you going to do?" re Trump's plan to work to get companies to stay.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/367163.php

Thanks for not even trying, you prick.

Hey, does he have time to pivot to the economy one more time??

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 04, 2016 01:32 PM (gTQoY)

170 136 I'm thinking those signed Newsweek Hillary won covers are going to be worth a lot of money
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:15 PM (39g3+)

Yeah, I wish I had bought one of the unsigned ones. The signed ones will be worth a fortune. In fact, I'm only aware of *one* signed copy.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 01:32 PM (sdi6R)

171 I'd love to see a Clemson- Penn State game, if only because I think Penn State's defense would give Deshaun Watson fits. It would be a good ticket though.

As far as Washington goes, why? Why are they in the top 4?

Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2016 01:32 PM (sCBEO)

172 By God Sir, Trump will not abide another toe.

I have no idea what this means, but I like it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:19 PM (0F67M)

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We've been waiting for this!!!

Posted by: The Army of Podiatry and those nice nail lady concubines at December 04, 2016 01:32 PM (r7E9R)

173 I'm surprised Newsweak would subcontract out such an important article without at least seeing if it reflected their style, but then, neither Time nor NW have a particular "voice" anymore (from what I gather in my doctor's office perusals when Private Islands or Golf aren't available). They are like generic news digests now, complete with big print and splashy layouts.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 04, 2016 01:33 PM (EnKk6)

174 Will the GOP congress and Trump fight to weaken unions, reduce regulation, and cut corporate tax rates? Is there a stronger word than skeptical I can use?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:30 PM (39g3+)

Majority leader Turtle has shown no interest in reforms, but Ryan may have had a come to Trump moment. I don't think its penetrated the leadership that the best way to stay in power is to cut off the subsidies the left gets from government.

Posted by: Iblis at December 04, 2016 01:33 PM (9221z)

175 https://tinyurl.com/ztjggx5

Priebus defends Trump's claim that millions voted illegally

Posted by: Evilpens at December 04, 2016 01:33 PM (y3aQB)

176 Stand Back! There is a fresh

Hate! Crime!! Alert!!!

People in Berkeley are up in arms because someone spotted SWASTIKAS drawn on the sidewalk! Culture of hate unleashed by the election of Trump! Nazis! Alt-right! Aggggh!!!!!

And then...someone published a picture of the swastikas in question:

http://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Swastikas-.jpg

Oooooooops -- they were drawn by a local native American activist as a good luck charm symbol, with "Earth-Water-Wind-Fire" on the arms of one swastika and "Peace-Love" etc. on the other swastika.

This same Native American street crazy is well known in town and usually runs for mayor and also draws chalk symbols all over the downtown sidewalks on a daily basis.

But no matter. It has already gone down in the record books as another Trump-inspired Hate Crime!!!!

Posted by: zombie at December 04, 2016 01:35 PM (jBuUi)

177 Alabama sort of has to be #1, given their record and schedule, though I bet if it comes down to another OSU-Alabama game at the end, I'd take OSU.

I think Michigan is a clear #3 though, based on schedule and their performance against OSU. I'd be torn between Penn State and Clemson for #4.

Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2016 01:35 PM (sCBEO)

178 Is he lying in saying they didn't read it, so as to pass the buck?

I kinda hope so. Otherwise he's probably highly overpaid if he's a
political editor who had nothing to do with the biggest political issue
of the year.

The question Tucker should have asked: "if you didn't prepare it, or even read it, why is Newsweek paying you a salary?'

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2016 01:35 PM (LAe3v)

179 The legacy media said, and then attempted to show, that Trump is not presidential. They've tried to show it through every story written about him using subtle as well as overt bias. But who defines what is "presidential"? The same media I've grown to despise over more than five decades of reading or listening to it.

In comparison to the presidents I've seen in my lifetime, he is definitely not presidential. But I see that as a positive, not a negative, at least so far.

Posted by: Bill R. at December 04, 2016 01:35 PM (escKN)

180 All Trump needs to do is institute Scott Walker's reforms nationwide, including Act 10 type reforms of public employee unions. That will make the USA open for business.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (lJW6d)

181 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 01:28 PM (mpXpK)

The point I was trying to make was the tone of the coverage...

EVEYTHING Fox says about Trump is colored in a negative light...

They had to go out and find these 'concerned' women... had to dig around to find someone who would say what they wished to say... as was apparent by the lead in to the 'story'...

Posted by: Don Q. at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (qf6WZ)

182 >>Who were 'concerned' that Trump saving the Carrier Jobs was a NEGATIVE thing... because they used Tax rebates for it....

Apparently they've been asleep for 8 years, huh?

While I don't want Trump to make a habit of this, I find the strange new outrage over tax breaks by GOPe types after Trump does it once unpersuasive.

How about they review all of the hundreds of billions (or even billions?) of tax breaks Obama doled to assist companies in outsourcing US job to plants in other countries, or hiring foreigners and illegals here in the US, or to just plain line the pockets of his donors???? Trump has to undo a lot of costly moves Obama implemented to kill US jobs as well as get busy cutting regulations and taxes for businesses across the board.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (NOIQH)

183 Kelly Anne Conway is amazing, every time I see a news clip she is OWNING the media! Keep it up!

Posted by: Uncle Si at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (PJAtA)

184 People keep saying that this is the best team Saban has had at Alabama but I don't buy it. I think the team that crushed Notre Dame in 2013 was a better all around team.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (0F67M)

185 That defense is nasty, grump. Ride that to the championship.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (89T5c)

186 I don't think its penetrated the leadership that the best way to stay in power is to cut off the subsidies the left gets from government.

Why this has not gotten through to them I cannot comprehend. They're amazingly resistant to disarming their opposition, and it makes zero sense to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (39g3+)

187 I see you are of the Roethlisberger school.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALL IN GIANT LETTERS.

Posted by: bEN Warmupjoke at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (8J/Te)

188 Do you bite your toe at me, sir?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2016 01:37 PM (IqV8l)

189 Saw a interview with Newsweek guy, said they sub it out, don't look at it, printed it ahead accidentally.
Whole time I was watching thought what a Leftist putz

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 01:37 PM (5sOEp)

190 180 All Trump needs to do is institute Scott Walker's reforms nationwide, including Act 10 type reforms of public employee unions. That will make the USA open for business.
Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (lJW6d)

The Civil Service Act needs to be rewritten to make it possible to fire people...

Posted by: Don Q. at December 04, 2016 01:37 PM (qf6WZ)

191 I loved the Trump tweet about Taiwan: "why is it terrible that I took a congratulatory call from a nation we've been selling weapons to for decades now?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:37 PM (39g3+)

192 Is he lying in saying they didn't read it, so as to pass the buck?

I kinda hope so. Otherwise he's probably highly overpaid if he's a
political editor who had nothing to do with the biggest political issue
of the year.

You'd think they'd have learned to be careful around her. It's sort of like standing between a grizzly cub and it's mom.

Then again, they're journalism majors, so...

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2016 01:38 PM (LAe3v)

193
Take any of the last 3 games (well maybe no the Iron Bowl) and remove two big takeaways by our defense, and give two to the opponent and we could well have lost.

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I deem this the Electoral College argument.

Posted by: The Army of Podiatry and those nice nail lady concubines at December 04, 2016 01:38 PM (r7E9R)

194 You can beat the Left & the MSM by fighting them. Who knew?

Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2016 01:38 PM (7qAYi)

195 The Civil Service Act needs to be rewritten to make it possible to fire people...

And end public employee unions, period. Zero, none. There's a reason even FDR could see that was a stupid idea.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:38 PM (39g3+)

196 What do you call someone who shatters the existing paradigm and establishes an entirely new one?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Thomas Kuehn?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 01:39 PM (QlyN5)

197 Majority leader Turtle has shown no interest in reforms, but Ryan may have had a come to Trump moment.

If I were a RINO in Congress, I'd be doing the following calculation: if Trump pulls off even a small fraction of what he's proposed, he's going to be popular as all hell, and his support would be worth its weight in gold come my next election.

Conversely, if I dig in my heels against him to curry favor with the Reds, I may be at risk of getting freight-trained in the next election, particularly if Trump campaigns for my opponent.

So on balance, I would conclude this was a good time to come to Jesus, just in case. If Trump screws the pooch, I could backwater later, if necessary.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:39 PM (SRKgf)

198 Posted by: zombie at December 04, 2016 01:35 PM (jBuUi)

The first time I went to Korea, I landed in Seoul and rode a bus to my new base in the southwestern part of the country. Along the way I kept seeing swastikas out front of buildings and began thinking bad things until someone explained to me that a backwards swastika is a Buddhist symbol.

Posted by: Bill R. at December 04, 2016 01:39 PM (escKN)

199 I'm not supposed to tell anyone but ...
Ace has been getting vetted as Trumps press secretary .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 04, 2016 01:39 PM (JsMw3)

200 I deem this the Electoral College argument.

Heh. I merely mean that BIG DEFENSIVE PLAYS are black swan events. You can't depend on them, you can predict when they will happen against you.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:40 PM (0F67M)

201 And end public employee unions, period. Zero, none. There's a reason even FDR could see that was a stupid idea."

In effect, that's what Walker's Act 10 has done. They're weak and toothless. In fact, even their own members have abandoned them when given the choice.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 01:40 PM (lJW6d)

202 198 Posted by: zombie at December 04, 2016 01:35 PM (jBuUi)

The first time I went to Korea, I landed in Seoul and rode a bus to my new base in the southwestern part of the country. Along the way I kept seeing swastikas out front of buildings and began thinking bad things until someone explained to me that a backwards swastika is a Buddhist symbol.
Posted by: Bill R. at December 04, 2016 01:39 PM (escKN)

Buddhist, Native American - it was even the national symbol of Finland.

Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2016 01:40 PM (7qAYi)

203
The were "The Chicks On The Right"

They have a syndicated (small) radio show. Never really listened to them -- wasn't impressed enough to give them a chance.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 01:41 PM (pCet1)

204 He strikes me as someone who would would put short term interests of his

Please cite one instance or get back on the short bus.

Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2016 01:41 PM (8J/Te)

205 >>And end public employee unions, period. Zero, none. There's a reason even FDR could see that was a stupid idea.

YES

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2016 01:41 PM (NOIQH)

206 191 I loved the Trump tweet about Taiwan: "why is it terrible that I took a congratulatory call from a nation we've been selling weapons to for decades now?"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:37 PM (39g3+)

The FIRST US President to talk with Taiwan directly. Do you think that sends a message to China that might be useful in future negotiations? I do.

The implicit message:

"You want special treatment, and various other things? Great. You have to earn them. What have you got for us? Because we've got other options that you won't like."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:42 PM (SRKgf)

207 Is he lying in saying they didn't read it, so as to pass the buck?

I am certain they had one of Hillary's worshipers in the campaign staff write it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:42 PM (39g3+)

208 205 >>And end public employee unions, period. Zero, none. There's a reason even FDR could see that was a stupid idea.
YES
Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2016 01:41 PM (NOIQH)

Oh hell yes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:42 PM (SRKgf)

209 Posted by: Muldoon, private citizen at December 04, 2016 12:20 PM (wPiJc)

Muldoon, YOU ARE AWESOME!

Posted by: random lurker - commenting randomly at December 04, 2016 01:43 PM (WF5ei)

210
EVEYTHING Fox says about Trump is colored in a negative light...
---

Yeah, Fox is going Left.

I think the only ones now that speak about Trump in positive terms are Hannity and Judge Jeanine.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 04, 2016 01:43 PM (nFg65)

211 Forgot that I saw this morning Harry Reid is retiring, the Turtle is giving a fond Farwell as well as a few other across the isle Republicans.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 01:43 PM (5sOEp)

212 "Ace has been getting vetted as Trumps press secretary"

His dick needs national exposure. Like Carlos Dnager.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 01:44 PM (bQxkN)

213 208 205 >>And end public employee unions, period. Zero, none. There's a reason even FDR could see that was a stupid idea.
YES
Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2016 01:41 PM (NOIQH)

Oh hell yes.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:42 PM (SRKgf

Unions exist to advance the interest of the union members against management. And in the case of public sector unions, we the taxpayers are management.

Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2016 01:44 PM (7qAYi)

214 "You want special treatment, and various other things? Great. You have
to earn them. What have you got for us? Because we've got other options
that you won't like."

Perhaps he's negotiating for the transfer of the Great Wall. We have a place where we could use it.

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2016 01:44 PM (LAe3v)

215
That shithead on CNN named Fareek was hilarious today.

"the end of Western democracy?" was his big fake concern today.

Why is Western democracy on the decline? Because of the rise of the right's populism in the US and Europe!

Apparently radical and reckless Leftism/Fascism is "western democracy" now and the center-right in the US/Europe (now considered "populism") is antithetical to Western democracy.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 01:44 PM (pCet1)

216 Hit the F'in post!
Bengals still ahead 10-0

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 01:44 PM (5sOEp)

217 Packers score. Randall Cobb makes Snow Angel in the end zone.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 01:46 PM (lJW6d)

218 It just occurred to me: Hillary Clinton will never, ever be President of the United States. I mean, let's be serious here. Aliens are going to land with dinosaurs first.

Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2016 01:46 PM (stTTh)

219 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

The U.S. is going to substantialy reduce taxes and regulations on businesses, but any business that leaves our country for another country,

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

fires its employees, builds a new factory or plant in the other country, and then thinks it will sell its product back into the U.S. ......

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

without retribution or consequence, is WRONG! There will be a tax on our soon to be strong border of 35% for these companies ......

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago

wanting to sell their product, cars, A.C. units etc., back across the border. This tax will make leaving financially difficult, but.....

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago

these companies are able to move between all 50 states, with no tax or tariff being charged. Please be forewarned prior to making a very ...

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago

expensive mistake! THE UNITED STATES IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:27 PM (0F67M)

Trump is going to force companies to accept tax relief and deregulation. If they do not accept tax relief and deregulation they will face retribution.

Posted by: gNewt at December 04, 2016 01:46 PM (7oPmA)

220 CHENEY WAS GOING TO THROW US ALL IN THE CAMPS, BUT TRUMP WILL DEFINITELY THROW US ALL IN THE CAMPS FOR SURE!!!

Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at December 04, 2016 01:46 PM (qJhUV)

221
The were "The Chicks On The Right"

Local Indianapolis. They giggle too much for me.
One of the reasons I couldn't take Bob and Tom.
They were sorta neverTrump.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2016 01:46 PM (IqV8l)

222 Fareek probably a little premature on Western civilization downfall and Middle Eastern's rise.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 01:46 PM (5sOEp)

223
Because nothing says traditional "western democracy" like a huge central power that acts like a dictator, e.g. the EU, e.g., obama's federal govt.

But watch out for the rise of Right Wing Populism, i.e., anything or anyone that opposes the Left's fascism.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 01:47 PM (pCet1)

224 186 I don't think its penetrated the leadership that the best way to stay in power is to cut off the subsidies the left gets from government.
Why this has not gotten through to them I cannot comprehend. They're amazingly resistant to disarming their opposition, and it makes zero sense to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (39g3+)

Me either.

They seem to think that they can curry favor with the Reds by going along with some of their crap. Really? How did that work out for McCain? He was a darling of the Democrats until he became a Presidential candidate, then he became the devil incarnate.

Go for their throats, every time, tirelessly, incessantly. Choke off their oxygen. Shitcan every government-financed leftist sinecure and bully pulpit extant, starting with public sector unions, closed shops, the Department of Education, PBS, and moving up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:47 PM (SRKgf)

225 But no matter. It has already gone down in the record books as another Trump-inspired Hate Crime!!!!
Posted by: zombie
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I like how someone added "wash yourself not the chalk" to his artwork.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 04, 2016 01:47 PM (r7ssB)

226 What do you call someone who shatters the existing paradigm and establishes an entirely new one?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Me. I replaced the paradigm "government must act in the best interests of its citizenry" with "government must annihilate its own vile citizenry, and replace it with a new and better citizenry."

Not even Hitler was as creative or as radical as I.

I "throw away the bread and eat bricks and centipedes."

Posted by: Angela Merkel at December 04, 2016 01:47 PM (QlyN5)

227 We don't need no stinking press

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 04, 2016 01:48 PM (voOPb)

228 Fareek Out!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2016 01:48 PM (IqV8l)

229 >>It just occurred to me: Hillary Clinton will never, ever be President
of the United States. I mean, let's be serious here. Aliens are going
to land with dinosaurs first.

Apparently you've never seen Transformers 4: Now with Marky Mark, Aliens and Dinosaurs?

Yeah, that's already happened. The explosions were fabulous!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2016 01:49 PM (NOIQH)

230 Key figures in the Bush 43 administration had agendas that got us to invade Iraq. Often well-intentioned, they back-fired.

Cheney wanted another Cold War.

Neo-cons wanted to insert a direct American military presence in the Middle East.

Rumsfeld wanted to invade with 30,000 to show how we could reform the military into a smaller kick-ass force.

Bush 43 wanted to outdo Bush 41.

Bonfire of the vanities.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 01:49 PM (bQxkN)

231 That shithead on CNN named Fareek was hilarious today.

"the end of Western democracy?" was his big fake concern today.

I always get my views on Western democracy from people named "Fareek," because who would know better about democracy?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:49 PM (SRKgf)

232
Last week Fareek was lamenting the loss of Castro!

This week Fareek is back to pretending he's all for liberal democracy...but in the fashion of Castro's Cuba.

It's all bullshit. It's all a Big Lie.

Never believe anything a Leftist say -- they sure don't.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 01:50 PM (pCet1)

233 sorta don't care what cheney thinks of trump. of course it's worth hearing what he has to say. but trump is not a politician and hasn't a skin in the game.

more, his not being a politician demolishes the democrats. obama's democrats are based on identity politics, the personal is political, the sjw world of aggrieved feelings. trump's focus on the economy and practical results is outside of standard political considerations of image and factional obligations.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 04, 2016 01:50 PM (WTSFk)

234 the fact that the unchanged Cheney went from one of the Dems favorite Republicans when he was in Congress and the Reagan administration to Darth Cheney.

You must be thinking of a different Dick Cheny.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 04, 2016 01:50 PM (voOPb)

235 ... it's refreshing.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 04, 2016 01:51 PM (WTSFk)

236 But no matter. It has already gone down in the record books as another Trump-inspired Hate Crime!!!!
Posted by: zombie at December 04, 2016 01:35 PM (jBuUi)

Don't drink the water there. I'm convinced there's something in it that unhinges people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:52 PM (SRKgf)

237 Trump is going to force companies to accept tax relief and deregulation.

It looks like he's going to use a smart "carrot and stick" approach, but some of that will require congress to go along, and I hope he can get that part done. The GOP on congress mostly despises him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:52 PM (39g3+)

238 i was looking to cruz's principled conservatism to rise above politics. maybe it takes trump's pragmatism.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 04, 2016 01:53 PM (WTSFk)

239 The GOP on congress mostly despises him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:52 PM (39g3+)

See my #197.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:53 PM (SRKgf)

240 deem this the Electoral College argument.

Heh. I merely mean that BIG DEFENSIVE PLAYS are black swan events. You can't depend on them, you can predict when they will happen against you.
Posted by: Grump9

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I disagree..While not as prevalent as high power offensive squads, this type of defensive squad can be relied on to make the difference the first time the opposing offense makes the smallest mistake. Thees guys go into the Vegas line and odds every bit as much as the offense does.

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 01:54 PM (r7E9R)

241 Bitch and Pauligirl haven't changed. They're still liars and traitors. They'll have to be removed for meaningful change to occur.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 04, 2016 01:54 PM (97XyN)

242 181 The point I was trying to make was the tone of the coverage...

EVEYTHING Fox says about Trump is colored in a negative light...

They had to go out and find these 'concerned' women... had to dig
around to find someone who would say what they wished to say... as was
apparent by the lead in to the 'story'...

Posted by: Don Q. at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (qf6WZ)

Oh, I agree with that 100%. That's why I was asking who these "conservative" women were so I could judge their motive better. But in the long term I am against company specific tax breaks. I recognize that's all Trump can do short term.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 01:54 PM (mpXpK)

243 Are we talking about Fareed Zakaria?

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2016 01:54 PM (LAe3v)

244 >>>>Trump is going to force companies to accept tax relief and deregulation. If they do not accept tax relief and deregulation they will face retribution.

Companies don't want to be forced to accept. They want to stay. But when Ireland's tax rate is 13% and ours is 35% it's a no brainier to leave

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 04, 2016 01:55 PM (voOPb)

245
Heh. I merely mean that BIG DEFENSIVE PLAYS are black swan events. You can't depend on them, you can predict when they will happen against you.
Posted by: Grump9

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Also.

Australia

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 01:55 PM (r7E9R)

246
His name isn't important.
Fareek. Fareed. Farside. Fareem. I don't care.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 01:56 PM (pCet1)

247 Besides the lower tax fewer rules & regs to boot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 04, 2016 01:56 PM (voOPb)

248 "...His daughter is homosexual. Where do you think he
stands on the issue? Immediate personal expediency trumps any universal
moral principles for him."

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 01:30 PM (QlyN5)

Oh my God! Cheney's daughter is a homosexual!

Who gives a rat's ass....

Dick Cheney is nothing like what you have described. I honestly have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Unless of course this is a parody....in which case....of whom?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 01:56 PM (42Mgr)

249 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago

The Green Party just dropped its recount suit in Pennsylvania and is losing votes in Wisconsin recount. Just a Stein scam to raise money!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:57 PM (0F67M)

250 Posted by: Bill R. at December 04, 2016 01:39 PM (escKN)

A number of years ago I was in the British Museum in London, and they had a display of plates from Pompeii I think.

And of the bottom of the plates they all had that symbol. Kind of odd seeing it, but I knew it had been a good luck symbol for many, many years.

Posted by: HH at December 04, 2016 01:58 PM (DrCtv)

251 >>Trump is going to force companies to accept tax relief and deregulation. If they do not accept tax relief and deregulation they will face retribution.

Heh.

I want that on a shirt.

In gold lettering, of course.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 04, 2016 01:58 PM (gTQoY)

252 213 Unions exist to advance the interest of the union
members against management. And in the case of public sector unions, we
the taxpayers are management.

Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2016 01:44 PM (7qAYi)

Unions exists to advance the union bosses interests. They do not give a shit about the members. The members loose ten of million of dollars in wages every time they strike. And it is never recovered in the wages they get after the strike.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 01:59 PM (mpXpK)

253 His name isn't important.

Fareek. Fareed. Farside. Fareem. I don't care.

Posted by: Sooths

It matters to me. Your cares do not.

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2016 01:59 PM (LAe3v)

254 249 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago

The Green Party just dropped its recount suit in Pennsylvania and is losing votes in Wisconsin recount. Just a Stein scam to raise money!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:57 PM (0F67M)
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And again, there is that notion that I'm peering through a glass at an alternate reality where bullshit is called by its True Name.

Schadenbutton status: engaged!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 04, 2016 01:59 PM (EnKk6)

255 Carrier wasn't moving over just taxes, because it's ultimate corporate parent is US based that pays 35% if and when profits are repatriated.

What's alarming is that Carrier thought it'd have a better supply chain in Mexico, because of all the jobs that have already moved to Mexico. And because US companies with Mexican subs would rather reinvest in Mexico than repatriate earnings that'll get taxed at 35%

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 02:00 PM (bQxkN)

256
Also on Fareek's show today, besides a cockuskcer professor and a couple of fascist europeons, was Thomas Friedman.

Friedman is hilarious. He says he wants someone who is both to the left of Bernie Sanders (health care, climate, etc.) and to the right of the Wall Street Journal (on entrepreneurship).

Friedman has been pushing this bullshit for over a decade. He's all for unfettered entrepreneurship -- as long as it can thrive with regulations, global warming restrictions, and extreme tax rates.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:01 PM (pCet1)

257
What if the MSM...

...is the Fake Media?!

** blaring brass: da dum daaaaaaaaah! **

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 04, 2016 02:01 PM (BK3ZS)

258 Just saw that the jeep carrying Fidel to his final resting place broke down on the way. Soldiers had to push the jeep along the route.

Posted by: Blanco Basura #Free Cthulhu (with full price purchase of Azatoth or Nyarlathotep) at December 04, 2016 02:02 PM (IcT7t)

259 �i+249 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago

The Green Party just dropped its recount suit in Pennsylvania and is losing votes in Wisconsin recount. Just a Stein scam to raise money!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 01:57 PM (0F67M) �-i+

To the Schadenbonermobile!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 02:02 PM (SRKgf)

260 Soldiers had to push the jeep along the route.

Jeepers creepers.

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2016 02:02 PM (LAe3v)

261 *snort*

I still had this open in another tab

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/250851/

and I giggled yet again.

Maybe I'll give up schadenfreude for New Year's.

Hmm, when does Lent start??

Cuz I'd hate to miss the schaden-opportunities of late Jan when he takes office.

March 1 is Lent.

Well, we'll see...

*tee hee*

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 04, 2016 02:02 PM (gTQoY)

262 Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:01 PM (pCet1)

Friedman reminds me of Jon Lovitz' character on SNL.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 02:03 PM (42Mgr)

263 Also on Fareek's show today, besides a cockuskcer professor and a couple of fascist europeons, was Thomas Friedman.

Friedman is hilarious. He says he wants someone who is both to the left of Bernie Sanders (health care, climate, etc.) and to the right of the Wall Street Journal (on entrepreneurship).

Friedman has been pushing this bullshit for over a decade. He's all for unfettered entrepreneurship -- as long as it can thrive with regulations, global warming restrictions, and extreme tax rates.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:01 PM (pCet1)

Friedman needs psychiatric care. He's clearly unhinged.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 02:03 PM (SRKgf)

264 Posted by: Blanco Basura #Free Cthulhu (with full price purchase of
Azatoth or Nyarlathotep) at December 04, 2016 02:02 PM (IcT7t)

Muldoon already addressed that in the previous thread.....it's worth a look.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 02:04 PM (42Mgr)

265 258 Just saw that the jeep carrying Fidel to his final resting place broke down on the way. Soldiers had to push the jeep along the route.
Posted by: Blanco Basura #Free Cthulhu (with full price purchase of Azatoth or Nyarlathotep) at December 04, 2016 02:02 PM (IcT7t)

I'll take visual metaphors for $1000, Alex.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 02:04 PM (SRKgf)

266 >>Just saw that the jeep carrying Fidel to his final resting place broke down on the way. Soldiers had to push the jeep along the route.

BUT JEEPS HAVE A 99.ELEVENTY % LITERACY RATE!!!

Posted by: MFM at December 04, 2016 02:05 PM (gTQoY)

267 258 Just saw that the jeep carrying Fidel to his final resting place broke down on the way. Soldiers had to push the jeep along the route.
Posted by: Blanco Basura #Free Cthulhu (with full price purchase of Azatoth or Nyarlathotep) at December 04, 2016 02:02 PM (IcT7t)

Shhhh! Ya hear that? That's God chuckling.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 02:05 PM (SRKgf)

268 One of the many fun things about the Trump victory is that I'd bet that, when he does call press conferences, the reporters are not going to be able to get away with dickhead questions. Oppositional questions are fine. But for too long our side has been responding politely to stuff like "What about your GAAAAFES" and not imposing consequences, like not getting called on again if you pull crap like that.

Posted by: Splunge at December 04, 2016 02:06 PM (iMxBJ)

269 It's been so long since the media has had to deal with an alpha male that they have no idea how to deal with it.

That is what I like best about Trump. All their lives, they have been conditioned by envy and fear. And now that which they envy and fear the most stares them in the face and dares them to grow up and get a f*cking life.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 02:06 PM (QlyN5)

270 86 I don't think its penetrated the leadership that the best way to stay in power is to cut off the subsidies the left gets from government.
Why this has not gotten through to them I cannot comprehend. They're amazingly resistant to disarming their opposition, and it makes zero sense to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (39g3+)

Cut off all federal monies to cities; that will bring the Republic back to participant citizens.

Posted by: gNewt at December 04, 2016 02:06 PM (7oPmA)

271 Dick Cheney On Donald Trump
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Oh, and also -- phrasing!!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 04, 2016 02:06 PM (EnKk6)

272 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 01:39 PM (SRKgf)

"It's nice to elect the right people, but that isn't the way you solve things. The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right things."

Posted by: Milton Friedman at December 04, 2016 02:06 PM (WF5ei)

273 What do you call someone who shatters the existing paradigm and establishes an entirely new one?

A revolutionary?

Posted by: gNewt at December 04, 2016 02:06 PM (7oPmA)

274 Muldoon already addressed that in the previous thread.....it's worth a look.

Heh, yes it is.

Posted by: Blanco Basura #Free Cthulhu (with full price purchase of Azatoth or Nyarlathotep) at December 04, 2016 02:07 PM (IcT7t)

275
the "yeah, that's the ticket, yeah" character?

Yeah, I can see that.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:07 PM (pCet1)

276 I still had this open in another tab

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/250851/

and I giggled yet again.

He sounds a very true cautionary note though: But monsters, once created, are notoriously difficult to control. You'd think all those English Lit majors would have remembered that, and we should remember it too...

All the power we allow government to have, will eventually be used against us, or our children. Never forget that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 02:08 PM (39g3+)

277
It's nice to see Cheney back on the air again. He even looks reasonably healthy. It sure seemed to be touch and go for awhile. He's got that healthy glow back.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 12:31 PM (lJW6d)

Getting a heart transplant from a T-Rex will do that to you.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2016 02:10 PM (LuZz8)

278 >>All the power we allow government to have, will eventually be used against us, or our children. Never forget that.

Oh yeah.

I was giggling at the picture...

Posted by: MFM at December 04, 2016 02:10 PM (gTQoY)

279 I want Trump to remove government interference, not add to it even if the intention is in my favor.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 04, 2016 02:11 PM (Dx2t8)

280 Saw Muldoon's post. Quite the chuckle

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 02:11 PM (5sOEp)

281 I hate that a constitutional government just can't be something that can be relied upon. It took someone like Trump who under no compulsion just *decided* to do this.

What if he had not? We'd be stuck with Jeb or Hillary. Why does it have to be so?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 02:11 PM (QlyN5)

282 All the power we allow government to have, will eventually be used against us, or our children. Never forget that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 02:08 PM (39g3+)

Absolutely true, and I worry about that a lot. But the conundrum is how can we reverse the Reds' increasing their influence through government power without employing government power ourselves?

For the sake of concreteness, consider Executive Orders.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 02:11 PM (SRKgf)

283 OT-Just wanted thank everyone for their prayers. I made it through the two services but now I am absolutely wiped out.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2016 02:12 PM (tOcW/)

284 Early line has 'Bama a 14 point favorite over Washington; Ohio State a 3 point favorite over Clemson

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 02:12 PM (bQxkN)

285 279 I want Trump to remove government interference, not add to it even if the intention is in my favor.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 04, 2016 02:11 PM (Dx2t

But it takes government interference to undo previous government interference. That's the dilemma.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 02:12 PM (SRKgf)

286 When discussing Cheney I still love one of the facts about him listed in an AOS Darth Cheney comment thread.

Cheney is so evil he takes candy away from babies...and gives it to diabetic babies.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 04, 2016 02:13 PM (Dx2t8)

287 283 OT-Just wanted thank everyone for their prayers. I made it through the two services but now I am absolutely wiped out.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2016 02:12 PM (tOcW/)

Well done. Just take a nap. Public speaking is draining as all get out.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2016 02:13 PM (SRKgf)

288 "Why does it have to be so?"

Our party system. The D party is anything but Democratic. Inner Inner Party decides what matters. Who controls it after the fall of House Clinton?

The likes of Karl Rove tried to do this with Jeb!, but showed how stupid they are. The R party should be even more open, broad and democratic after Trump's rebranding.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 02:16 PM (bQxkN)

289 Bengals all over the Birds 19 (missed extra pt) 0

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 02:17 PM (5sOEp)

290 284: I'd settle for a 14 point loss to Bama. But I'll still hope for a miracle for the Huskies!

Posted by: LASue at December 04, 2016 02:18 PM (R2dMB)

291 283 FenelonSpoke

Fantastic! Take the rest of the day off. You've earned it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 04, 2016 02:18 PM (u82oZ)

292 TIME OUT!!!

Posted by: Andy Reid at December 04, 2016 02:18 PM (VOaa7)

293 292 Never gets old.

As does this: HCWNBPOTUS

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 04, 2016 02:19 PM (u82oZ)

294 "...His daughter is homosexual. Where do you think he
stands on the issue? Immediate personal expediency trumps any universal
moral principles for him."

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2016 01:30 PM (QlyN5)

Oh my God! Cheney's daughter is a homosexual!

Who gives a rat's ass....

Dick Cheney is nothing like what you have described. I honestly have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Unless of course this is a parody....in which case....of whom?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 01:56 PM (42Mgr)

I think you may have misunderstood Mr Cold Bear. He's pointing out that Cheney's sole somewhat heterodox (from a conservative point of view) political stance happens to be one in which he has a personal interest, same sex marriage. Charitably, Cheney could support SSM because his daughter's experiences have convinced him of the principle of the matter. Less charitably, he could support SSM because of varying degrees of personal or political interest (ie it is good for his daughter even if it is bad on principle, or it is politically expedient for him to reduce the stigma of homosexuality because he has a gay daughter). I tend to take the more charitable view, but it is not strange to note the exception to the pattern.

Posted by: svejk at December 04, 2016 02:20 PM (GRafG)

295 >>"...His daughter is homosexual. Where do you think he
stands on the issue? Immediate personal expediency trumps any universal moral principles for him."

Would you prefer he throw his daughter off of a roof?

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2016 02:20 PM (c8Ctg)

296 Thread Title reads like a PornHub Vid description - Tagged 'Schadenboner Videos', 'Liberal Tears'.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2016 02:21 PM (c8Ctg)

297 OT: In pursuing an answer to " What do you call someone who shatters the existing paradigm and establishes an entirely new one? " I pasted into DuckDuck and received Zip, went to Google (loathing POS Scmit) and received about 6,250,000 results. This is the second one: www. uky.edu/~eushe2/Pajares/kuhnsyn.html .

Every time I come here I go away taking more than I came with.

Posted by: gNewt at December 04, 2016 02:21 PM (7oPmA)

298 Take out the space after the www.

Posted by: gNewt at December 04, 2016 02:22 PM (7oPmA)

299 283 FenelonSpoke

Fantastic! Take the rest of the day off. You've earned it.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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And then some! Seconded (or thirded?) on the R&R, ma'am.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 04, 2016 02:22 PM (r7ssB)

300 TD Chiefs!!!

Another Eric Berry Pick-6

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:22 PM (VOaa7)

301 Friedman has been pushing this bullshit for over a decade. He's all for unfettered entrepreneurship -- as long as it can thrive with regulations, global warming restrictions, and extreme tax rates.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:01 PM (pCet1)

-------------------------------------------------------

He also once called for warning labels on modems about information vetting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUf1H77jQXI

Posted by: William Eaton at December 04, 2016 02:24 PM (MuTTO)

302 OT-Just wanted thank everyone for their prayers. I made it through the two services but now I am absolutely wiped out.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2016 02:12 PM (tOcW/)
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Thanks for checking in, Fenelon. I've been thinking of you all morning. Glad you made it. Now please do rest. Let FenSpouse and FenSon pamper you today!

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2016 02:24 PM (Zokmo)

303 *sniffsniff*

What's that smell?

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2016 02:24 PM (GVYK1)

304 >>TD Chiefs!!!

Bastard. I have to watch the Pats beat up on the Los Angeles Butt Rammers.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2016 02:25 PM (c8Ctg)

305 TD Chiefs!!!

Another Eric Berry Pick-6

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:22 PM (VOaa7)

People still watch the NFL?

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2016 02:25 PM (GVYK1)

306 199 I'm not supposed to tell anyone but ...
Ace has been getting vetted as Trumps press secretary .
Posted by: awkward davies at December 04, 2016 01:39 PM (JsMw3)

Does that mean Trump reads the comments, like Breitbart?

Should I put on pants?

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 02:25 PM (sdi6R)

307
He also once called for warning labels on modems about information vetting.

Sounds like he wants warnings on people who might contradict or expose his stupid ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:25 PM (pCet1)

308 Would you prefer he throw his daughter off of a roof?

I hardly think that those are the limits of his options.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 02:27 PM (0F67M)

309 Does that mean Trump reads the comments, like Breitbart?

Supposedly Bannon does

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 02:27 PM (39g3+)

310 >>I'm not supposed to tell anyone but ...
Ace has been getting vetted as Trumps press secretary .

I wonder if he'll go Japanese Porno Pixilation or 'The Unknown Press Secretary' / Bag on the Head?

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2016 02:27 PM (c8Ctg)

311 Zombie @176:

Not the punch line I was expecting.

Personally I find it amusing how many swastikas assumed to mean "Yeah! Trump won! White Nation! Race War!" were in fact drawn in the spirit of "HELP! Trump won! Now I'm literally living under a Nazi dictatorship!"

Posted by: JPS at December 04, 2016 02:27 PM (9ziuC)

312 304 >>TD Chiefs!!!

Bastard. I have to watch the Pats beat up on the Los Angeles Butt Rammers.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2016 02:25 PM (c8Ctg)

--Nah, I just caught it on the Yahoo Stat Tracker.

Only early game airing here is Lions-Saints

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:27 PM (VOaa7)

313 I tend to take the more charitable view, but it is not strange to note the exception to the pattern.

Posted by: svejk at December 04, 2016 02:20 PM (GRafG)

"Self -interest" is not a dirty word. That Dick Cheney may have altered his views on SSM in particular, and homosexuality in general is not surprising.

What is surprising is taking one issue and using it to cast aspersions on the man's character and political philosophy.

I am a fan of Ronald Reagan. But when I dig into his specific policies I find many areas in which I disagree.

No doubt I would find the same with Dick Cheney.

In this case "The perfect is the enemy of the almost perfect."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 02:28 PM (42Mgr)

314 >>Only early game airing here is Lions-Saints

Still. Not the Rammers.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2016 02:30 PM (c8Ctg)

315 So Trump is going to put a preemptive 'tariff' on US companies moving manufacturing out of the country. I think he needs to establish some carrots before he administers the stick but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt right now.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 04, 2016 02:30 PM (Dx2t8)

316 I think he needs to establish some carrots before he administers the stick but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt right now.

Well the tariff requires congressional action, but rolling back regulations is a matter of executive orders in many cases. So yeah, carrots.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 02:31 PM (39g3+)

317 Should I put on pants?

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU

At least comb your hair

Posted by: Bruce at December 04, 2016 02:31 PM (8ikIW)

318 So I see the late great Ironhead Craig Heyward did not make the Ain'ts All-50th team. The late Sam Mills did, though.

Funny Darren Sharper is not on the team. Hmmm, I wonder why . . .

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:31 PM (VOaa7)

319 Penn State vs USC in the Rose Bowl.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 02:32 PM (0F67M)

320 Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:27 PM (VOaa7)

Speaking of the Chiefs, their next game is here on Thurs. against the Raiders. Predicted high temp for that day is 22 degrees. Expected temp when the game starts is 16 degrees, with a blowing wind.

Hell, If I had free tickets and free parking I wouldn't go, unless it was in a sky suite. And even then...

Posted by: HH at December 04, 2016 02:33 PM (DrCtv)

321
Fucking Bears!

Come on, Chicago Bears. Don't lose to kapernick.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:33 PM (pCet1)

322 Auburn vs Oklahoma in the Sugar.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 02:34 PM (0F67M)

323 317 Should I put on pants?

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU

At least comb your hair
Posted by: Bruce
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I could've gone the rest of my life without that perticular mental image, thank you very much.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 04, 2016 02:35 PM (r7ssB)

324 Both of these are great matchups from a spectator point of view.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 02:35 PM (0F67M)

325 Philadelphia defence should have stayed home this week

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 02:39 PM (5sOEp)

326 Big hue and cry from Penn State homers for an eight-team playoff.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:39 PM (VOaa7)

327
Do they even call it the Sugar Bowl anymore?

Is it the Purina Cat Chow Bowl or somethig?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:40 PM (pCet1)

328
the Stop Bullying Bowl

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:40 PM (pCet1)

329 Shoot, some of the bowl games don't have their teams posted online yet.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:40 PM (VOaa7)

330 Who gets that Fight Hunger Bowl?

Posted by: tu3031 at December 04, 2016 02:42 PM (qJhUV)

331 I don't see why Lame Kiffin would go to Houston, though I hope he does.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 02:42 PM (0F67M)

332 A thought for the Horde:

Under Civil Service rules individuals can not be fired without a long, long paper trail. Agency wide RiFs can occur, but bumping rights tend to let the bad apples seed other agencies, while losing the good people. And there are a lot of good people in government, with an unknown amount of assholes who need to go.

We have the record of who signed off on many anti-American decisions and regulations.

Can we transfer them to Community Outreach in Venezuela, Libya, the new Iraq consulate in Mosul, and South Sudan? We have a number of places we need to send hard-working believers in Socialism, that hate average American conservatives. Would this be possible?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 04, 2016 02:42 PM (u82oZ)

333 It could be Stanford-Pitt or Stanford Virginia Tech here in the Sun Bowl.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:42 PM (VOaa7)

334 Big hue and cry from Penn State homers for an eight-team playoff.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:39 PM (VOaa7)

They shouldn't have a program......

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2016 02:42 PM (GVYK1)

335

Does anyone here doubt that hillary clinton would fully divest her interests in the Clinton Globulin Fund....by giving it all to her daughter?

In other words, the same thing Trump is doing except Trump runs an international business not a pay-for-play fake charity.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:43 PM (pCet1)

336 While overmatched on paper, Penn State has a great college coach in James Franklin who motivates his players to win. They coulda been a contender in the Playoff. Crazy passing could beat 'Bama defense

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 02:43 PM (bQxkN)

337 I believe it's the Foster Farms Bowl now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 02:43 PM (0F67M)

338 The Taco Bowl

Posted by: Trump at December 04, 2016 02:43 PM (MJkxq)

339
and, yeah, Nancy Pelosi, Our Lady Of Perpetual Shocked Expression, is now and forever to be known as...

Norma Desmond.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 02:44 PM (pCet1)

340 "They shouldn't have a program......"

Don't believe in collective guilt. Why I'm rooting for the New Penn State

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 02:44 PM (bQxkN)

341 331 I don't see why Lame Kiffin would go to Houston, though I hope he does.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 02:42 PM (0F67M)

--Isn't Les Miles the favorite for Houston right now?

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:45 PM (VOaa7)

342 336 While overmatched on paper, Penn State has a great college coach in James Franklin who motivates his players to win. They coulda been a contender in the Playoff. Crazy passing could beat 'Bama defense
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 02:43 PM (bQxkN)

--They got on track too late. Close loss to Pitt cost them a playoff berth.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 02:46 PM (VOaa7)

343 So who's playing in the Dust Bowl?

Posted by: HH at December 04, 2016 02:47 PM (DrCtv)

344 RE: a few glimpses into the obvious

1) Trump didn't give Carrier a dime in incentives; the state of Indiana did;

2) States, counties & municipalities have been giving incentives to companies to invest & create jobs since uh, I dunno... time immemorial (appx);

3) Solyndra? good! Carrier? bad!

4) Considering the Mount Everest of anti-free enterprise CRAP that Republicans have shrugged off & just waved on through, why don't GOP critics of Carrier just sit down and shut up?

(Did I mention "shut up"?)

Posted by: mnw at December 04, 2016 02:48 PM (Iik29)

345 --Isn't Les Miles the favorite for Houston right now?

Is he? That would be a good match I guess.

I wish Houston Nutt would get back into coaching. I always liked that guy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 02:48 PM (0F67M)

346 Penn State is fine.
Go Nittany Lions!

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 02:49 PM (5sOEp)

347 Michigan is going to beat Florida State in the Orange Bowl.

Posted by: Grump928(C) predicts at December 04, 2016 02:50 PM (0F67M)

348 rhomboid: "But while helpful and novel, it does not mean the press is dead, or that the electorate is still not mostly toiling in a make-believe world of the press' creation. It is."

If that were completely true Trump would have lost to Hill in the landslide they were predicting. They are not dead but they are reeling.

Posted by: FOAF at December 04, 2016 02:51 PM (p0JMG)

349 The Quick Lane Bowl Dec. 26 in Detroit.
Christmas in Detroit...nice.

Posted by: tu3031 at December 04, 2016 02:52 PM (qJhUV)

350 A fairly funny SNL skit - like Nessie and Bigfoot, the search for Hill in the woods of NY: http://tinyurl.com/grtfqrr

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 04, 2016 02:53 PM (tHwdc)

351 "Self -interest" is not a dirty word. That Dick Cheney may have altered his views on SSM in particular, and homosexuality in general is not surprising.

What is surprising is taking one issue and using it to cast aspersions on the man's character and political philosophy.

I am a fan of Ronald Reagan. But when I dig into his specific policies I find many areas in which I disagree.

No doubt I would find the same with Dick Cheney.

In this case "The perfect is the enemy of the almost perfect."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 02:28 PM (42Mgr)

It's interesting that you bring up Ronald Reagan. I am also a Reagan fan, but he is partly responsible for standardizing no-fault divorce in the US (after his personal experience of divorce from Jane Wyman), which has had significant social consequences.
Enlightened self interest in economics and strict pursuance of the national interest in foreign policy are good policy lodestars. However, it seems that self-interest can be problematic in the social realm (from the conservative perspective). I do not wish to cast any aspersions on Reagan or Cheney, whom I agree are almost perfect, but I find the question of what constitutes principled self interest and how it can be differentiated from motivated self-deception intriguing.

Posted by: svejk at December 04, 2016 02:54 PM (GRafG)

352 Bengles /Eagles game is getting out of hand, score and penalty wise.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 02:55 PM (5sOEp)

353 the main point is that trump is not a politician. he doesn't weigh the same considerations of allegiances, image and delectability that professional politicians are trained to do.

the added benefit is that he undermines the basic premise of democrats and the left: that the personal is political. they make everything including personal identity political. trump eviscerates that.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 04, 2016 02:56 PM (WTSFk)

354 Bears whipping Kaepernick's ass. No clue if the prick took a knee today but he got booed on his first possession.

Posted by: dartist at December 04, 2016 02:56 PM (Cf0i2)

355 343 So who's playing in the Dust Bowl?
Posted by: HH at December 04, 2016 02:47 PM (DrCtv)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQYKJaWuj0Y

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 02:56 PM (sdi6R)

356 delectability not delectability. damn splchk.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 04, 2016 02:56 PM (WTSFk)

357 NFL officiating is/has been terrible. Zero consistency.

Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at December 04, 2016 02:56 PM (CL76w)

358 So who's playing in the Dust Bowl?
Posted by: HH at December 04, 2016 02:47 PM (DrCtv)

Who gets to clean the screen and has to go to the Light the Bowl in Aspen?

Fuck it Dude....let's go bowling.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 04, 2016 02:57 PM (ej1L0)

359 electability not delectability.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 04, 2016 02:58 PM (WTSFk)

360 Don't believe in collective guilt. Why I'm rooting for the New Penn State

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 02:44 PM (bQxkN)

I believe that actions should have consequences. That university got away with decades of covering up child molestation. This wasn't just a "football" problem. This was a human decency problem. It should be burned and the earth salted.

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2016 02:58 PM (GVYK1)

361 f*n splchk.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 04, 2016 02:58 PM (WTSFk)

362 Bears whipping Kaepernick's ass. No clue if the prick took a knee today but he got booed on his first possession.

Posted by: dartist at December 04, 2016 02:56 PM (Cf0i2)

When your leftist guerrilla actions get you booed in the liberal shithole that is Chitcago.......

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2016 02:59 PM (GVYK1)

363 Moron crowdsource to get Cheney on Twitter?

Posted by: Random Joe at December 04, 2016 03:01 PM (vhbai)

364 I wish the Huskies were playing in the Rose Bowl instead.

Posted by: LASue at December 04, 2016 03:02 PM (R2dMB)

365 I find the question of what constitutes principled
self interest and how it can be differentiated from motivated
self-deception intriguing.

Posted by: svejk at December 04, 2016 02:54 PM (GRafG)

Self-interest in action is what drives market economies, and what dooms command economies (socialism).

It has become a dirty word (not with you, but with the MSM), yet it is the most powerful motivator of humans.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 03:03 PM (42Mgr)

366 Thanks rickl, never seen that before.

Posted by: HH at December 04, 2016 03:03 PM (DrCtv)

367 i still think craponhisdicks' daddy was a muzzie. maybe he could ply his trade in syria. heard the bombers are looking for a qb with fucked up hair.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 04, 2016 03:04 PM (KP5rU)

368 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 03:03 PM (42Mgr)

I think a simple example would be full disclosure laws in Real Estate transactions.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 04, 2016 03:05 PM (Dx2t8)

369 319 Penn State vs USC in the Rose Bowl.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 02:32 PM (0F67M)

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You misspelled the Reach Around Bowl

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 03:06 PM (r7E9R)

370 I think a simple example would be full disclosure laws in Real Estate transactions.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 04, 2016 03:05 PM (Dx2t

I'm not sure I understand....

"Buyer Beware" is certainly respectful of unbridled self interest, but another interpretation is that it is misrepresentation of a product.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 03:08 PM (42Mgr)

371 Self-interest in action is what drives market economies, and what dooms command economies (socialism).

It has become a dirty word (not with you, but with the MSM), yet it is the most powerful motivator of humans.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 03:03 PM (42Mgr)

This is because liberals have tied in the notion that self interest must come at the expense of others. You cannot just choose to want to keep more of your own money, because someone else could use those tax dollars for health care or whatever.

Everything is a zero sum game with them. This is why if the liberals of today were in the majority a million years ago, we never would have made communities in the first place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 04, 2016 03:08 PM (92kX2)

372 Bears have at least 5 sacks on Krappedonhisdick. Be a shame if he got his legs broke.

Posted by: dartist at December 04, 2016 03:08 PM (Cf0i2)

373 Donald Trump says stupid things but does smart things.

Compare with Obama, who (allegedly) says smart things but does stupid things.

I'll take Trump any day.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 04, 2016 03:09 PM (fEofP)

374 Trump's typical blustery, CALCULATED,chaotic pronouncements
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FTFY

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 04, 2016 03:09 PM (zu88C)

375 If you're interesting in sending a big fat BOD style FU to Kelloggs, here's their list of product brands (shit, I'll miss Cheez-Its):

http://www.kelloggcompany.com/en_US/brandportfolio.html/

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 04, 2016 03:11 PM (oZEJt)

376 Deep thinker or thoughtless?

"It's Trump's right to shift policy, alliances, strategy," Chris Murphy, a democratic senator on the US senate foreign relations committee tweeted.

" What has happened in the last 48 hours is not a shift. These are major pivots in foreign policy without any plan. That's how wars start."

Posted by: Bill Wynn at December 04, 2016 03:11 PM (iI1+4)

377 FTFY

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 04, 2016 03:09 PM (zu88C)

I have been wrong about Trump often enough in the past year that I will cheerfully accept the edit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2016 03:12 PM (42Mgr)

378
Give me an example of one thing that Trump has said that was " stupid " in your opinion, and resulted in no net again for Team Trump.

I am seriously evaluating all of what he says and does and trying hard to avoid being caught up in wishful thinking.

But the stuff he says is accurate and honest, if painfully, brutishly honest.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 04, 2016 03:13 PM (zu88C)

379 Hofer lost bigly. We'll have to see if the Cinque Stelle (5 Star) Movement can get the anti-Globalism ball rolling again tonight in Italy.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at December 04, 2016 03:13 PM (ul9CR)

380 376 Deep thinker or thoughtless?

"It's Trump's right to shift policy, alliances, strategy," Chris Murphy, a democratic senator on the US senate foreign relations committee tweeted.

" What has happened in the last 48 hours is not a shift. These are major pivots in foreign policy without any plan. That's how wars start."
Posted by: Bill Wynn at December 04, 2016 03:11 PM (iI1+4)

Unless you do not understand the strategy. Is China going to start a war with THE major purchaser of their exports? You know, the one where they get the capitol to be able to keep their people happy living under a totalitarian dictatorship?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 04, 2016 03:14 PM (92kX2)

381 Everything you're being told is Bullshit. But then you already know that.

http://tinyurl.com/atkisson

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 04, 2016 03:14 PM (lJW6d)

382 Remember most if not all versions of the Penn State saga are from the MSM. And they have a agenda as much as the higher NCAA does.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 03:14 PM (5sOEp)

383 Alabama should grind the Commie Huskies into dust. Then the PAC 12 will revert to USC and 11 JV teams to all interested parties east of the Rockies.
On reflection, Darth Cheney is going soft with the new heart transplant.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 04, 2016 03:15 PM (FtrY1)

384 I'm going to miss Mother's cookies.

Posted by: Infidel at December 04, 2016 03:16 PM (a62hT)

385 CBD, I am looking for examples that were "stupid" and I truthfully can't find them .

I want to address the "stupid" meme with a few people I know and I have tasked them to share "stupid" comments.

The first one is always the "pussy grab" comment.

Well friends and neighbors, Mort's Truthalyzer rates this statement a 9.9999 out of 10 when discussing Hollywood golddiggers.

Next?

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 04, 2016 03:17 PM (zu88C)

386
I wonder if he'll go Japanese Porno Pixilation or 'The Unknown Press Secretary' / Bag on the Head?
Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2016 02:27 PM (c8Ct

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I was thinking more of a Thunderdome type mask. Maybe some feathers here and there.

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 03:17 PM (r7E9R)

387 31
if trump does nothing else, his attitude toward the media is a lesson
for anybody running against a prog. kissing the medias' ass gets you
nowhere. see romney, w bush, mccain etc. the media is as dangerous to
this country as isis. they are the enemy.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 04, 2016 12:27 PM (KP5rU)
Thread-winner for me. Trump did not just beat Hillary and globalist-Establishment-RINOs, he beat the Media. Whether out of intellect, quick learning or sheer dumb-ass luck, he went around the media while simultaneously dragging them around by the rings in their noses - or in Anderson Cooper's case, the rings in his crotchal area.
Trump Pwned The Media. They'll adapt, they are reflexively conditioned to believe their power is unassailable. We need to be keenly aware of the Democrats in Congress and their RINO comrades. I trust them 1/10th the distance I can throw the lot of them...
(As a dogleg, but related aside: If Hillary had been elected, the left/RINOs planned to ramp-up subtle and not-so-subtle controls ove the communications means that were used so well against them. That was the primary reason for Obama's faux, "Net Neutrality" move of placing the Internet under Title II regulatory controls as it gave government *VAST* new power to control nearly every aspect of the Internet.)

Posted by: DrDeano at December 04, 2016 03:17 PM (cP8Yw)

388 Unrelated, but Kapernick (or however you spell it) is having a career day against the Bears.

He's 1 for 5 for 4 yards, and has been sacked 5 times for minus-20-something yards. I'm not going to math right now, but I figure he's an interception away from a zero QB rating for the day.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at December 04, 2016 03:18 PM (WV40F)

389 I was thinking more of a Thunderdome type mask. Maybe some feathers here and there.
Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 03:17 PM (r7E9R)

CNN news, who runs Barter-Town?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 04, 2016 03:18 PM (92kX2)

390 Next?

Posted by: Mortimer,

How about all the times he said how much he hates the LGBTQWERTY people and wants to kill them all and grind them up to make laundry soap?
Someone somewhere said he said it.

Posted by: Bruce at December 04, 2016 03:19 PM (8ikIW)

391 The Civil Service Act needs to be rewritten to make it possible to fire people...

Posted by: Don Q. at December 04, 2016 01:37 PM (qf6WZ)

Could always just reassign them to ptabulate ptarmigan pturds in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 04, 2016 03:19 PM (MiBfH)

392 388 Unrelated, but Kapernick (or however you spell it) is having a career day against the Bears.

He's 1 for 5 for 4 yards, and has been sacked 5 times for minus-20-something yards. I'm not going to math right now, but I figure he's an interception away from a zero QB rating for the day.
Posted by: Arch Stanton at December 04, 2016 03:18 PM (WV40F)

So, he is going to have to wait til next week to unseat Joe Montana as greatest quarterback who ever lived?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 04, 2016 03:19 PM (92kX2)

393

Limbaugh made very similar statements last week regarding how Trump baits and "tweaks" ( Limbaugh's term) the media in the same way that Rush always has.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 04, 2016 03:20 PM (zu88C)

394
Penn State vs USC in the Rose Bowl.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 04, 2016 02:32 PM (0F67M)
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Wisconsin sucks.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 04, 2016 03:20 PM (bpfzP)

395 Are the effects of self-interest as unambiguously positive in the social realm as they are in the market? For instance, a worker leaving a job for a better opportunity is often a win-win, and labor market mobility creates wealth and dynamism. However, a spouse leaving a marriage for a better opportunity often creates at least one loser, and 'spousal mobility' can impoverish entire communities at scale. Social issues seem to present a lot of self-interest edge cases where the focus on _enlightened_ self interest becomes important.

Posted by: svejk at December 04, 2016 03:20 PM (GRafG)

396 Unrelated, but Kapernick (or however you spell it) is having a career day against the Bears.

He's 1 for 5 for 4 yards, and has been sacked 5 times for minus-20-something yards. I'm not going to math right now, but I figure he's an interception away from a zero QB rating for the day.
Posted by: Arch Stanton at December

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Fingers crossed for a pick 6 to close it out!

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 03:20 PM (r7E9R)

397 Kraponastick got pulled dammit. Must have read my post about his legs.

Posted by: dartist at December 04, 2016 03:22 PM (Cf0i2)

398
How about all the times he said how much he hates the LGBTQWERTY
people and wants to kill them all and grind them up to make laundry
soap?

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Laundry soap huh? I heard it was skin lampshades.

There is really nothing more useless than a bunch of media gossips who have been completely cut off from their primary source of information.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 04, 2016 03:22 PM (zu88C)

399 He's 1 for 5 for 4 yards, and has been sacked 5 times for minus-20-something yards. I'm not going to math right now, but I figure he's an interception away from a zero QB rating for the day.
Posted by: Arch Stanton at December 04, 2016 03:18 PM (WV40F)

He is probably upset since his daddy, Fidel, is taking a dirt nap.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 04, 2016 03:23 PM (ej1L0)

400 If you're interesting in sending a big fat BOD style
FU to Kelloggs, here's their list of product brands (shit, I'll miss
Cheez-Its):

http://www.kelloggcompany.com/en_US/brandportfolio.html/

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 04, 2016 03:11 PM (oZEJt)

All carbs, all forbidden by LCHF. Another great reason to do paleo.

But yeah, I do miss Cheez-Its.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 04, 2016 03:23 PM (tHwdc)

401 There is no way any American company can compete with a manufacturer in 3rd world shit holes except with tariffs on those nations that are 3rd world shit holes, or we completely ditch honest republican government and adopt a 3rd world government which allows lots of bribes and law breaking.

The reason some of these American companies are leaving is not just taxes and regulations. If we ditched most regulations, and the corporate tax was 15% or 10% some of these companies would still leave.

Why? Because we still have a half way decent legal system, a constitution, a armed population, etc.

What some of these companies want is to pay workers $5 dollars a day, be able to dump all their waste in the local river, and if 50 workers die because of comically bad safety issues they can get another 50 workers. The 3rd world government can just be bribed for the rest, including some cheap slave girls for the boss and bumping off any one who complains about damage to their personal property.

Yes I am being over the top, but lets face it some countries and companies need tariffs to make up for the differences in the forms of governments.

Posted by: William Eaton at December 04, 2016 03:23 PM (MuTTO)

402 Bears have at least 5 sacks on Krappedonhisdick. Be a shame if he got his legs broke.

Posted by: dartist at December 04, 2016 03:08 PM (Cf0i2)
================================

Yeah, that'd be awful.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 04, 2016 03:23 PM (bpfzP)

403 If Trump continues to use Twatter look for them to gin up some bullshit excuse to shut him down, expect Facebook and YouTube to follow suit. He needs to create his own app and email subscription to get to people directly.

It needs to become a thing that anybody interacting with newzies in any way records it and posts it when the lies issue forth. Don't talk to them without your own camera crew present. Actually, we have the tech already to do it, just create a variation of Google glasses. Call it a set of LieBusters(TM).

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at December 04, 2016 03:23 PM (dIc3Q)

404 Give me an example of one thing that Trump has said that was " stupid " in your opinion, and resulted in no net again for Team Trump.
___________________

When he said he was going to change he nation's libel laws. There is no authority in the Constitution to create a federal tort of libel. Libel laws are a state matter.

But then his actions solved the problem by using social media to point out lies in the media.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 04, 2016 03:24 PM (fEofP)

405 Jordy my man !

Posted by: grammie winger at December 04, 2016 03:24 PM (bpfzP)

406 375 If you're interesting in sending a big fat BOD style FU to Kelloggs, here's their list of product brands (shit, I'll miss Cheez-Its):

http://www.kelloggcompany.com/en_US/brandportfolio.html/
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 04, 2016 03:11 PM (oZEJt)

AKA Carbs-R-Us.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 03:24 PM (sdi6R)

407 67 i still think craponhisdicks' daddy was a muzzie. maybe he could ply his trade in syria. heard the bombers are looking for a qb with fucked up hair.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at

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I don't know about the dad, but his girlfriend is muzzie

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 03:25 PM (r7E9R)

408 Conway: Had This Been a Race for the Popular Vote, Trump Would Have Won That Too

https://tinyurl.com/hehxnr5

thie Woman takes no SHIT !!

Posted by: Evilpens at December 04, 2016 03:25 PM (y3aQB)

409 395 Are the effects of self-interest as unambiguously positive in the social realm as they are in the market? For instance, a worker leaving a job for a better opportunity is often a win-win, and labor market mobility creates wealth and dynamism. However, a spouse leaving a marriage for a better opportunity often creates at least one loser, and 'spousal mobility' can impoverish entire communities at scale. Social issues seem to present a lot of self-interest edge cases where the focus on _enlightened_ self interest becomes important.

Posted by: svejk at December 04, 2016 03:20 PM (GRafG)

Valid, but simply because they are complex does not mean they are wrong. A person in the situation you describe can say that while in the one aspect leaving their marriage may be on it's face the correct action, they may also see the ability to see their children and see to their well being is the more fulfilling outcome.

People make bad decisions, even when thinking altruistically. One could say that is THE mode of the left.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 04, 2016 03:25 PM (92kX2)

410 If you're interesting in sending a big fat BOD style

FU to Kelloggs, here's their list of product brands (shit, I'll miss

Cheez-Its):

http://www.kelloggcompany.com/en_US/brandportfolio.html/

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 04, 2016 03:11 PM (oZEJt)
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I wrote them an email and got a thank you for your blah blah blah. I'm thinking I might send them one every day.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 04, 2016 03:26 PM (bpfzP)

411 There is no way any American company can compete with a manufacturer in
3rd world shit holes except with tariffs on those nations that are 3rd
world shit holes, or we completely ditch honest republican government
and adopt a 3rd world government which allows lots of bribes and law
breaking.

===

Thank you for reminding me! JJ Sefton and I were going to discuss this after the election. He is convinced that there is no place for tariffs anywhere ever from a conservative administration.

I kinda think that there may well be a need for , temporary, drastic measures, considering how far the economic pendulum has swung.

But I am sort dumb and JJ is pretty smart. I need to remind him of this on Monday so he can put me some knowledge.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 04, 2016 03:26 PM (zu88C)

412 In 1988 a friend worked at the White House and was able to get me on the VIP tour list. They took us to the press room (the one you see on tv) and there was the podium the President speaks from. I asked "Can I ...?" Before I finished my sentence the guide said Yes you may stand at the podium. After I finished mugging at the podium in front of the big Presidential seal, I got down and saw an intern stuffing papers into a series of cubby holes, the kind you see in schools. I asked what he was doing. The guide said that every time the White House issues a new policy or changes an old policy, they write up a position paper and stuff it in the cubby holes assigned to the Washington Post, New York Times, etc.

You can guess how often these position papers get discusssed or mentioned in the media even though they are clearly given the information. Never.

Now the President doesn't have to give the position papers to the media and hope they transmit the information to the public. They can go straight to the public without the media. HAH.

Posted by: Ex-Pralite Monk at December 04, 2016 03:27 PM (igZYZ)

413 Conway: Had This Been a Race for the Popular Vote, Trump Would Have Won That Too

It's against the rules to play by the rules when the SJW's lose

Posted by: Bruce at December 04, 2016 03:27 PM (8ikIW)

414 A stop by the Falcons!

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 04, 2016 03:31 PM (M3DRt)

415 375
If you're interesting in sending a big fat BOD style FU to Kelloggs,
here's their list of product brands (shit, I'll miss Cheez-Its):

http://www.kelloggcompany.com/en_US/brandportfolio.html/

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 04, 2016 03:11 PM (oZEJt)

Damn, I thought a black guy owned Famous Amos. I love those cookies.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 03:31 PM (mpXpK)

416 We have a number of places we need to send hard-working believers in Socialism,

The Animas river still needs cleaning, I'll throw in a sponge.

Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2016 03:32 PM (8J/Te)

417
Bill Wynn is?

a) chemjeff
b) AmishDude
c) JeffB
d) Hollowpoint
e) allahpundit
f) that annoying putz with "red" something in his name

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 03:32 PM (pCet1)

418 Maybe in the next 4 years a little bit of voter integrity can be achieved, and getting rid of Lynch/Holder AG can help that .

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 03:32 PM (5sOEp)

419 Bill Wynn is?

a) chemjeff
b) AmishDude
c) JeffB
d) Hollowpoint
e) allahpundit
f) that annoying putz with "red" something in his name

It goes without say: Average Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) predicts at December 04, 2016 03:33 PM (0F67M)

420
When he said he was going to change he nation's libel laws.

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Trump is a lot like Limbaugh in his use of language. The exact quote was "we're gonna open up these libel laws".

I don't think he has any idea that he can imperiously decree change in libel laws.

I think he was putting some assholes on fkn notice that the guys get shirts and libel laws are gonna be "opened" and he was gonna slice like a fkn hammer.

I think that it is likely that message was received. It would explain the current NYT/WAPO complete meltdown.

Just my opinion.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 04, 2016 03:34 PM (zu88C)

421 419, did you o to UA?

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 04, 2016 03:35 PM (M3DRt)

422 In theory Bengals/Eagles game isn't over 29 -14.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 03:36 PM (5sOEp)

423 Me? Yeah. It doesn't show?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Native Texan and Alabama Alumn, twice as smug as you at December 04, 2016 03:37 PM (0F67M)

424 Here is a pic of Wally Amos the founder of Famous Amos

http://bit.ly/1NubxmA

He is a black guy. He sold out to a number of investment groups who continued to mismanage the company and lose money. He quit in disgust and ultimately Kellogg's wound up with the company.

I haven't bought any in a while because I ate them coming and going and they did have some calories. I bet they aren't as good as they used to be.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 03:37 PM (mpXpK)

425 (shit, I'll miss Cheez-Its):

Vader Noooooooo!

I could've lived without Pringles but no White Cheddar????

Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2016 03:37 PM (8J/Te)

426 9 Bill Wynn is?

a) chemjeff
b) AmishDude
c) JeffB
d) Hollowpoint
e) allahpundit
f) that annoying putz with "red" something in his name

It goes without say: Average Joe.
Posted by: Grump928(C) predicts at December 04, 2016 03:33 PM (0F67M)

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I think it's ace, when he is wearing his Totally-not- a- Purse- , testosterone satchel..

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 03:38 PM (r7E9R)

427 If they throw the POTUS off of Twitter then I think it would cease to be relevant as a platform ...

Posted by: Random Joe at December 04, 2016 03:39 PM (vhbai)

428 347 Michigan is going to beat Florida State in the Orange Bowl.
Posted by: Grump928(C) predicts at December 04, 2016 02:50 PM (0F67M)

--Funny, since they played the Gaytors in last year's bowl game. Peppers and Cook in the same game, should be a good one.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 03:39 PM (VOaa7)

429 I wish Trump would cross post on Gab.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Native Texan and Alabama Alumn, twice as smug as you at December 04, 2016 03:39 PM (0F67M)

430 Kellogg's:

I sent them the top flap of a box of their rosemary-garlic snack crackers, annotated "never again."

Told them I support Breitbart.

Couldn't hurt; might help.

Probably the best thing that ever happened to Breitbart... a brand-new email list of 250000 names.

Posted by: mnw at December 04, 2016 03:39 PM (Iik29)

431
If they throw the POTUS off of Twitter
If they throw the POTUS off of Twitter

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oh please oh please oh please oh please

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 04, 2016 03:40 PM (zu88C)

432 They throw Trump off twitter it will be one they will regret doing. That publicity wouldn't be good.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 03:40 PM (5sOEp)

433 Birds fouled the on sides but got a quick fumble recovery

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 03:41 PM (5sOEp)

434 431 like lol

Posted by: Random Joe at December 04, 2016 03:41 PM (vhbai)

435 The libel laws are not what is screwed up. It was that BS "absence of malice" ruling by SCOTUS in by New York Times Co. v. Sullivan.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 03:42 PM (mpXpK)

436 432 They throw Trump off twitter it will be one they will regret doing. That publicity wouldn't be good.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 03:40 PM (5sOEp)

The funny thing is, they would if they had the balls. They literally believe that everyone thinks exactly like them- except for all the people they throw off twitter, but they are just wreckers... I mean conservatives.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 04, 2016 03:42 PM (92kX2)

437 Dammit

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 04, 2016 03:43 PM (M3DRt)

438 86 I don't think its penetrated the leadership that the best way to stay in power is to cut off the subsidies the left gets from government.
Why this has not gotten through to them I cannot comprehend. They're amazingly resistant to disarming their opposition, and it makes zero sense to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2016 01:36 PM (39g3+)

Answer: They have their own "subsidies" in the deal, and it is those that keep them in power.

Posted by: (not) J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2016 03:44 PM (wi0rD)

439 The Animas river still needs cleaning, I'll throw in a sponge.

Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2016 03:32 PM (8J/Te)

HEY! Leave me out of this.....

Posted by: Sponge at December 04, 2016 03:44 PM (GVYK1)

440 I think it's ace,

Wouldn't this theory require two hashes -> 2 connections -> 2 pcs actually working?

Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2016 03:45 PM (8J/Te)

441 It would be hilarious if Twitter deletes Trump's account. That would be right up there with Ellison becoming the DNC chair.

Please, go for it. There's no better way to win the hearts and minds of Middle America.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 03:45 PM (sdi6R)

442 Holy shit, Chiefs just got a Block-2 like Denver did a couple weeks ago against the Saints.

The radio commentators said that Alabama used the same locker room yesterday and that high-scoring defense must have rubbed off on the Chiefs.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 03:45 PM (VOaa7)

443 442, they initially put Florida's one on the scoreboard as 6 pats yesterday

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 04, 2016 03:48 PM (M3DRt)

444 The Lions are making Drew Brees look like a mere mortal.

They have a sneaky-good defense.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 03:49 PM (VOaa7)

445 Game is over, all but clock in Cincinnati

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 03:50 PM (5sOEp)

446 Travis Kelce is killing the Falcons.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 03:50 PM (VOaa7)

447 The new Most Interesting Man isn't.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Native Texan and Alabama Alumn, twice as smug as you at December 04, 2016 03:51 PM (0F67M)

448 Bears whipping Kaepernick's ass.

Fucking buzzsaw we ran into. Well, what do you expect when a team has THREE times as many wins as you do...

Posted by: Colon Kaeperdick at December 04, 2016 03:51 PM (TqmC9)

449 Wouldn't this theory require two hashes -> 2 connections -> 2 pcs actually working?
Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2016 03

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That's what he keeps in the satchel that totally- isn't- a purse

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 04, 2016 03:51 PM (r7E9R)

450 Just read that Crap Tree thing in the sidebar. LMAO.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 04, 2016 03:51 PM (mpXpK)

451 This is great! The most wonderful time in 8 years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW85ZcswiqM

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at December 04, 2016 03:52 PM (P8951)

452 My buffs did it once years ago - it was the slowest 2 pts ever. No rose bowl boo. Thing I had never seen was return for TD after safety (9 pts) and I've seen a lot of football ...

Posted by: Random Joe at December 04, 2016 03:52 PM (vhbai)

453 Grump written basically that a few times.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 03:52 PM (5sOEp)

454 Sweet, it was Eric Berry who returned that missed PAT.

It's his first career game in his hometown.

Sure am glad the Chiefs kept him.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 03:53 PM (VOaa7)

455 They throw Trump off twitter it will be one they will regret doing. That publicity wouldn't be good.

*cough*

Zuckerberg Net Worth Down $3.7B Since Election...

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 04, 2016 03:55 PM (zu88C)

456 452 My buffs did it once years ago - it was the slowest 2 pts ever. No rose bowl boo. Thing I had never seen was return for TD after safety (9 pts) and I've seen a lot of football ...
Posted by: Random Joe at December 04, 2016 03:52 PM (vhbai)

--You must not have watched last Sunday night's game. The Chiefs did just that to the Broncos.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 03:55 PM (VOaa7)

457 If Twitter kicked Trump out, couldn't he move to a competing platform> Wouldn't 20 million people follow him?

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 04, 2016 03:56 PM (bQxkN)

458 Chiefs win, 29 to 28.

And nood.

Posted by: HH at December 04, 2016 03:58 PM (DrCtv)

459 Speaking of Kelce, I've heard that his reality show (a Bachelor-style matchmaking show) is horrawful.

What's funny is that when he's not in uniform I'd never guess he was a Pro Bowl tight end; he looks too skinny. I know that the TE position has evolved and they are much more functional as receivers, but still. He also looks metrosexual, while his brother who is an offensive lineman for the Eagles is burly with a beard and wild hair.

Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2016 03:58 PM (VOaa7)

460 >.If Twitter kicked Trump out, couldn't he move to a competing platform> Wouldn't 20 million people follow him?

Once Trump is in office he will have the ability to schedule televised speeches and press conferences - lord knows Obama loved him some prime time speeches in his day. I would imagine that Trump would easily retaliate should Twitter get cute and ban him .

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2016 03:59 PM (NOIQH)

461 This is great! The most wonderful time in 8 years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW85ZcswiqM

Posted by: DonnaV(deplorably brandishing
ampersandsand so there at December 04, 2016 03:52 PM
(P8951)
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Donna - that is so awesome! I'm sending that to my mom.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 04, 2016 04:01 PM (bpfzP)

462 Ima Broncos fan didn't miss it but not the first time I'd seen similar play

Von wins again

Posted by: Random Joe at December 04, 2016 04:05 PM (vhbai)

463 Famous Amos was hot stuff in the 70s, back when delicious luxury cookies were a new thing. Nothing tastes as good now as it did back in the day.

I lived out of the country for almost a decade - one of my first purchases when I got back was Hydrox cookies (soooo much better than Oreos, IMHO) and they'd changed the recipe while I was gone.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 04, 2016 04:08 PM (tHwdc)

464
Donna - that is so awesome! I'm sending that to my mom.

You goys really ought to click my links.

You'd be two, maybe three days ahead of everyone else.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 04:09 PM (pCet1)

465 Trump sets up his own site and uses it to make announcements that would previously have gone to the press corpse. Oh, give them to the newzies too, but do the initial release at, say, 5am. That way we get to see it first thing in the morning before they have a chance to coordinate their lies. Make them spend their time scrambling to keep up. It would suck the air out of the evening newz shows.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at December 04, 2016 04:15 PM (dIc3Q)

466 Bears whipping Kaepernick's ass.

Fucking buzzsaw we ran into. Well, what do you expect when a team has THREE times as many wins as you do...

Posted by: Colon Kaeperdick
****

And the refs are racist?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 04, 2016 04:22 PM (hVdx9)

467 Well, I guess I'll be on this thread for the next few hours.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 04:26 PM (sdi6R)

468 Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2016 04:09 PM (pCet1)

Sorry, sooth. I didn't see your link!

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at December 04, 2016 04:30 PM (P8951)

469 Is Mitch McConnel moonlighting as a journalist? Youll need a better wig to fool us

Posted by: Regular joe at December 04, 2016 04:38 PM (F5AM2)

470 The Food Thread and the Gardening Thread are two threads I tend to avoid. I have no interest or aptitude for any of that.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 04:47 PM (sdi6R)

471 I like food.

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 04, 2016 04:48 PM (M3DRt)

472 Would a weekend music thread ever be an option?

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 04, 2016 04:50 PM (M3DRt)

473 I like food too, as long as someone else makes it.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 04:50 PM (sdi6R)

474 Same with music

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 04, 2016 04:52 PM (M3DRt)

475 The only sandwich I can make that is even halfway palatable is peanut butter and jelly. Anything else I make myself tastes awful compared to anything I can buy at a restaurant or deli.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 04:53 PM (sdi6R)

476 The Food Thread and the Gardening Thread are two threads I tend to avoid. I have no interest or aptitude for any of that.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 04:47 PM (sdi6R)

I'm the chef of Marie Calendar, you simply add onion, garlic, serrano and jalapeno peppers then nuke it.

Posted by: gNewt at December 04, 2016 04:56 PM (aUP71)

477 I am the spaghetti monster chef

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 04, 2016 04:58 PM (M3DRt)

478 I'm the chef of Marie Calendar, you simply ~~add onion, garlic, serrano and jalapeno peppers then~~ nuke it.

That I can do.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 04:59 PM (sdi6R)

479 He doesn't need me anymore! Waah waah wahh--sniff, give me a tissue here. There will be a lot of that in the New York Times.

Posted by: Skeptical Voter at December 04, 2016 05:01 PM (Sda6L)

480 ...which makes me, by the transitive property of thinking, a serious thinker. Posted by: CBD

You are who you associate with.
Therefore, by associating with big brains, you become a big brain. That is what the left is always telling us; guilt by association.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 04, 2016 05:14 PM (mhx1O)

481 That was an amazing td pass.

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 04, 2016 05:18 PM (M3DRt)

482 Its not a regularly scheduled thread but there are music threads.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 05:22 PM (5sOEp)

483 This is the closest there has been to a football thread all season

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2016 05:23 PM (5sOEp)

484 Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 04, 2016 04:59 PM (sdi6R)

Hi rickl, I saw the link you left for me on the EMT.

Leftists are awful.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at December 04, 2016 05:37 PM (Om16U)

485 So, Renzi's people hired campaign whiz Jim Messina after his...success running the U.K. Remain campaign? Alright then.

Posted by: Evilpens at December 04, 2016 05:54 PM (y3aQB)

486 so now KaperDICK wears a shirt of Fred Hampton a Black Panther Party SCUM !

Posted by: Evilpens at December 04, 2016 06:16 PM (y3aQB)

487 Has anyone used Masarepa in place of cornmeal?
I can't tell if it would be massively different besides it being much finer than your usual cornmeal.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 04, 2016 07:06 PM (yLUuz)

488 "He's at the point where we don't need you guys anymore."

I confess this makes me nervous - not sure what will happen next in our country. But

(1) The media has fully abdicated their job to watch and inform.

(2) The entrenched political class had pretty much decided they didn't need US!

If either group had a little humility and had done their jobs correctly, we might not have Trump.

Posted by: lily at December 05, 2016 09:17 AM (Qm82t)

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