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Overnight Open Thread (9-24-2014)

Dinesh D'Souza Gets Sent to Reeducation Camp

No prison time for Dinesh but...

I was horrified to read the following: "As part of his probation, Mr. D'Souza . . . will also be required to undergo therapeutic counseling." Assuming this to be an accurate report, one can only conclude that America is undergoing a gentle but nonetheless sinister cultural revolution.
True, therapeutic counseling is not hideously cruel, though it is likely to be agonizingly idiotic for any intelligent person. Moreover, it is also likely to invite dishonesty on the part of the "treated," who will be expected to accept the counselor's point of view without demur, however ludicrous or demeaning it may be. Contestation will be taken as a sign that the patient-criminal is not cured and therefore in need of yet more therapeutic counseling. To enforce therapeutic counseling as "treatment" for a criminal act is a violation of the integrity of the human personality. There are worse violations no doubt, but it is the beginning of a descent down a slippery slope.

Punishment is not therapy; crime is not disease. The Soviets thought that dissent was crime and crime was disease: therefore, with them, dissent was disease. We have not yet reached that point, but "therapy" for illegal campaign contributions is coming uncomfortably close to it.

And what was D'Souza's great depraved crime that requires on-going mental re-adjustment? He couldn't give $20,000 directly to a friend's election campaign because of federal election laws so he had two associates give $10,000 each and then reimbursed them.

Megan McArdle's Rules For Appearing on the Daily Show

  1. Don't.
  2. If you must, bring two tape recorders, a video camera and a witness. Announce at the beginning that you are going to record this and reserve the right to release the entire recording to the public. When they tell you that they will not do the interview under those conditions, prepare to leave. There is no ethical reason that a reporter requires the ability to ask you questions without having those questions recorded. The reason they don't want unedited audio is that you might release it and be revealed as a normal decent person, rather than a horrible fool.
  3. They may attempt to get you to stay by explaining that recording will interfere with their equipment. This is the point where you whip the video camera out of your bag and helpfully offer to videotape the interview instead. Do not, under any circumstances, allow yourself to be alone in a room with the producers and no recording device.
  4. Don't release all the 'good faith' hostages until you see your interview appear on a live unedited feed of the show. And never fall for the 'I have a serious medical condition' ploy.
  5. Only bring a caliber that begins with a 4.

I may have added one or two rules that Megan implied but didn't state outright.

Also the one time Mike Wallace apologized to one of his victims. But only because the victim, Rep. Bob Livingston (R-LA), had the legal goods on him.

megyn-kelly-jon-stewart

#GamerGate:  How Sloppy, Biased Video Games Reporting Almost Destroyed a CEO

No Sharing of Food in the Camps or You Get the Box

And by camps I mean middle school and by box I mean suspension.

Mom Bakes Cookies for 2nd Graders, Gets Banned From School

A classic case of vagina-shaming.

vagina-cupcakes

The Secret Service and the M1 Pencil

When it comes to firearms requalification and physical fitness, the Secret Service either doesn't allow agents time to fulfill the requirements or asks agents to fill out their own test scores.

I could overlook some peccadillos if I thought the Secret Service was rock-solid in their competency and mission focus. But I no longer believe that.

US Forest Service: You Need a Permit to Photograph the Wilderness

The U.S. Forest Service has tightened restrictions on media coverage in vast swaths of the country's wild lands, requiring reporters to pay for a permit and get permission before shooting a photo or video in federally designated wilderness areas.

Under rules being finalized in November, a reporter who met a biologist, wildlife advocate or whistleblower alleging neglect in any of the nation's 100 million acres of wilderness would first need special approval to shoot photos or videos even on an iPhone.

Permits cost up to $1,500, says Forest Service spokesman Larry Chambers, and reporters who don't get a permit could face fines up to $1,000.

...Liz Close, the Forest Service's acting wilderness director, says the restrictions have been in place on a temporary basis for four years and are meant to preserve the untamed character of the country's wilderness.

Close didn't cite any real-life examples of why the policy is needed or what problems it's addressing. She didn't know whether any media outlets had applied for permits in the last four years.

And don't think I haven't forgotten what thugs the NPS workers were during the government shutdown.

The F-5 Outlives the MiG-21

The F-5s is a 12 ton fighter roughly similar to the 1950s era MiG-21, and is a contemporary of that Russian fighter. The F-5 was built mainly for export to nations that could not afford the top-line Western fighters, but did not want the MiG-21s. The F-5 is normally armed with two 20mm cannon, and three tons of missiles and bombs. Introduced in 1962, over 2,200 were built before production ended in 1987.

...India, the last major user of the MiG-21, is in the process of retiring them as well. The F-5, however, continues in active service in several air forces. Unlike the MiG-21, which was built to be used little in peace time and then employed vigorously, if briefly, in wartime, the F-5 was built to be used a lot for training in peace time. This was, until the MiG-29 and Su-27 came along in the 1980s, a major difference between Western and Russian warplanes.

Northrop_F-5E_(Tail_No._11419)_(cropped)

FBI Report: 9mm is the Best Caliber For Us

"I can carry more and shoot it better, and it works just as poorly as any other pistol round."

Like a Bad Penny...

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And That's Why It's Called Modern Art

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First World Problems: Racist Colored Buttocks

The Group knows what you did.

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Comments

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1 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 10:10 PM (T1005)

2 Howdy

Posted by: Brandon Misanthropic Humanitarian. Kinder, gentler machine gun hand at September 24, 2014 10:10 PM (Z1cmo)

3 Is that poster real?

Posted by: otho at September 24, 2014 10:10 PM (tBSrv)

4 Nice one, Maet. I actually perused it and clicked a link before jumping in.

Posted by: Peaches at September 24, 2014 10:13 PM (ncAtG)

5 Verily, the prayed-for enstompenage has come!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 10:13 PM (T1005)

6 So...still boned?

Good evening horde. I'm in another shitty hotel room, and might or might not be sampling the grape.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:13 PM (cIiAK)

7 OJ and tonic, mostly vodka...

Oh! Hey! Didn't know this thing was on.

Posted by: Brandon Tobacco Road at September 24, 2014 10:13 PM (4Mv1T)

8 Off, stargazing sock...

Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 24, 2014 10:14 PM (4Mv1T)

9 might or might not be sampling the grape.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:13 PM (cIiAK)
we're not stupid, DC. well, not *that* stupid.

Posted by: Peaches at September 24, 2014 10:15 PM (ncAtG)

10 Kind of depressing Maet, re-education camp, Gestapo park service, illegal food swapping. Happy fucking Wednesday

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian. Kinder, gentler machine gun hand at September 24, 2014 10:16 PM (Z1cmo)

11 "The Soviets thought that dissent was crime and crime was disease..."

So to does Robert Kennedy et al.

Yet another marker in our Collective descent into hell.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 24, 2014 10:17 PM (1CroS)

12 Did we ever work out our sign for the camps?

Because we are all going to want to be able to identify each other.

Posted by: blaster at September 24, 2014 10:17 PM (EKrFg)

13 Any chance that when we take back control of the government that we can send all lefty criminals like Reid and Obama off to our own newly formed re-education seminars?

Posted by: Beeblebrox has 2 heads at September 24, 2014 10:17 PM (iDpUC)

14 Thanks, Mike.



Hello, bitches.

Posted by: Ricardo at September 24, 2014 10:17 PM (6yqfT)

15 Any chance that when we take back control of the government that we can send all lefty criminals like Reid and Obama off to our own newly formed re-education seminars?

No - they are Mitch McConnell's dear friends. Now you, you little teabagger, there will still be camps for you.

Posted by: blaster at September 24, 2014 10:18 PM (EKrFg)

16 "Only bring a caliber that begins with a 4."

You're dead to me.

Posted by: .50 Action Express at September 24, 2014 10:19 PM (Zu3d9)

17 "
OJ and tonic, mostly vodka..."

Take your medicine. Don't bitch.

Posted by: Ricardo at September 24, 2014 10:19 PM (6yqfT)

18 So Dinesh is being sent to Soviet government psychiatrists who will keep injecting him with stuff until he recants?

The Catholic Church in comparison merely showed Galileo some tools and he folded like a cheap tent.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2014 10:19 PM (BlEnL)

19 Our sign is to pretend to put our dicks in a toaster. Ladies, we're working on a sign for you to use at the kamps.

Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah at September 24, 2014 10:19 PM (7RXcs)

20 says the restrictions have been in place on a temporary basis for four years and are meant to preserve the untamed character of the country's wilderness.

Really? Are they claiming simply by observing it you change it? Is it Schroedinger's Wilderness?

Posted by: no good deed at September 24, 2014 10:20 PM (w3a0Z)

21 g'evenin', 'rons

Val-U-Rite on the rocks with a splash of pepperment schnapps...

Serious You Guys, whilst I'm a prime offender of fcukin' with CAC on various issues (his frequent pre-stomping the ONT being his number one offence), he is doing the Lord's work with the Decision Desk. Keep up the good work, Meatball.

Posted by: BrandonAltonJackson at September 24, 2014 10:20 PM (KCxzN)

22 The camps will be filled with interesting people that we can play games with and swim and talk to over meals of gruel and bugs.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2014 10:21 PM (JdEZJ)

23 So will the NPS go after Ansel Adams' estate?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2014 10:21 PM (BlEnL)

24 >>>we're not stupid, DC. well, not *that* stupid.

I'm sotally tober occifer. I'm fine to drink, I haven't had a thing to drive.

(I hereby disclaim all responsibility for any and all comments made under my nic. It wasn't me. Someone must have broke in and commented from my ipad. Bad neighborhood and all that.)

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:22 PM (cIiAK)

25 Did we ever work out our sign for the camps?

Because we are all going to want to be able to identify each other.
Posted by: blaster
---------------------------

Sideways middle finger, and a wink seems appropriate.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 24, 2014 10:22 PM (4Mv1T)

26 Our sign is to pretend to put our dicks in a toaster. Ladies, we're working on a sign for you to use at the kamps.
Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah at September 24, 2014 10:19 PM (7RXcs)


Two words: boobehs.

Posted by: jwpaine at September 24, 2014 10:22 PM (68O4K)

27 I wonder how much one of those F-5's would go for on ebay? It's a pretty snazzy ride, and you wouldn't have to get groped by the TSA to go anywhere.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 10:23 PM (T1005)

28 The F-5 has proven a fine, fine airplane. The Navy still use them as Adversaries. I watched a pair of them do a routine at NAS FW two years ago. Good as gold and yet they are the equivalent of a pair of '62 Chevies as squad cars in the local LEO force.

Posted by: Ricardo at September 24, 2014 10:23 PM (6yqfT)

29 Evening, you Morons.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 24, 2014 10:23 PM (l3vZN)

30 >>>Our sign is to pretend to put our dicks in a toaster.

I think I see a flaw in your plan.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:23 PM (cIiAK)

31 D'nesh shouldn't have pled out.

He apparently didn't get a very good deal so he bears part of the responsibility for the sentence.

Pro tip kiddies: when pleading out, have a lawyer present to do the negotiations, make certain you get what you were promised and don't relent until you get it.

This is where "playing fair" can get you in worse trouble.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 24, 2014 10:23 PM (KK+mC)

32 19
Our sign is to pretend to put our dicks in a toaster. Ladies, we're working on a sign for you to use at the kamps.

Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah at September 24, 2014 10:19 PM (7RXcs)


Hint: it'll probably involve pudding.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 10:24 PM (T1005)

33 The Forest Service likes to use Wilderness designations to keep people out/off of 'their' land.

Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2014 10:24 PM (ygltv)

34 You bunch of MF'rs.


The ONT use to be something. What the fuck is wrong

Posted by: Ricardo at September 24, 2014 10:24 PM (6yqfT)

35 I am not going to "camp".

You may find me face down in a ditch amongst a pile of spent brass, but I am not going to "camp".

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 10:26 PM (KCxzN)

36 Is David Brooks going to be at this re-education camp D'Souza is being sent to? That's what he (Brooks I mean) wants isn't it?
Seriously this is frightening.
Are the Red Guards going to parade him through the streets wearing a dunce cap?

Posted by: Northernlurker (AKA TGinTV) at September 24, 2014 10:26 PM (AkoL+)

37 >>>The ONT use to be something. What the fuck is wrong

I'm busy with important matters of very high importance. Like watching BBT and playing spades. What's your excuse?

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:27 PM (cIiAK)

38 Dipping in a Pudding Cup would work just fine.

Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2014 10:27 PM (ygltv)

39 And what was D'Souza's great depraved crime that requires on-going
mental re-adjustment? He couldn't give $20,000 directly to a friend's
election campaign because of federal election laws so he had two
associates give $10,000 each and then reimbursed them.


Just to clarify, that [is a crime. The author's argument appears to be with the imposition of "theraputic counseling", as opposed to "mere" punishment, perhaps attempting to conflate the legal issues and the political ones. D'Souza was convicted of violating a law, not of "thought crimes". I am pretty sure that D'Souza's prison sentence was reduced in exchange for the agreement to counseling, in which case this trade-off actually worked to his benefit. Also perhaps he could use a little counseling in regards to the question of why he thought/thinks he should be above the law.

Posted by: CQD at September 24, 2014 10:27 PM (eCKON)

40 "Rattling, shaking"



ONT?

Posted by: Ricardo at September 24, 2014 10:28 PM (6yqfT)

41 That'd be post-modern art.
Modern art took out the image, the literal image.
Post-modern art tookmout the art.
What's next? Islam and sexual perversion, but I repeat myself.
Heard of Louise Nevelson? Famous modern artist. Good enough if you like black wood stuff.
GREAT lay! Tall, very sensuous, enthusiastic, energetic, imaginative (obviously).
The new bunch want goats & cannibalism.

Posted by: Georg Schwartz Frank Marshall Davis ValJar Mr. Scratch at September 24, 2014 10:29 PM (gLt83)

42 " What's your excuse?"


I'm here, Bitch, causing trouble. Right now.

Posted by: Ricardo at September 24, 2014 10:29 PM (6yqfT)

43 I want to paint those cookies.

Posted by: Zombie O'Keefe at September 24, 2014 10:30 PM (ygltv)

44 In other news, I got the scope on the pellet rifle dialed in to 1" groups at ten yards. Good enough. I'll release the rifle to my Father-in-Law tomorrow so he can solve his vermin problem.*

*I think I've told the back-story on this on the ONT before

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 10:30 PM (KCxzN)

45 12 Did we ever work out our sign for the camps?

Because we are all going to want to be able to identify each other.
Posted by: blaster at September 24, 2014 10:17 PM (EKrFg)

I learned the following at a meeting. Hi, I'm misanthropic humanitarian & I'm a moron

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian. Kinder, gentler machine gun hand at September 24, 2014 10:31 PM (RMo/a)

46 We do need a secret sign.

& CB radios...

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 10:31 PM (KCxzN)

47 "*I think I've told the back-story on this on the ONT before"




This the mother-fucker you sighted in in your apartment?

Posted by: Ricardo at September 24, 2014 10:31 PM (6yqfT)

48 We'll, there talking about the most efficient turd disposal on the local gun forum.

They don't talk turd disposal till they have enough guns, ammo, food, and water.

The time must be nigh.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 24, 2014 10:32 PM (4Mv1T)

49 "The U.S. Forest Service has tightened restrictions on media coverage in vast swaths of the country's wild lands, requiring reporters to pay for a permit and get permission before shooting a photo or video in federally designated wilderness areas."

Looks like I know what I am doing this weekend.

Posted by: fluffy at September 24, 2014 10:32 PM (Ua6T/)

50 This the mother-fucker you sighted in in your apartment?

Posted by: Ricardo at September 24, 2014 10:31 PM


Guilty as charged, Your Honor.

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 10:33 PM (KCxzN)

51 >>>You may find me face down in a ditch amongst a pile of spent brass, but I am not going to "camp".

No worries. You'll have a hundred million or so friends in Valhalla, plus however many servants your training, skill and bravery grant you.

I sleep peaceably in my bed at night because I am way scarier than the monsters what go bump in the night.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:33 PM (cIiAK)

52 "Mom Bakes Cookies for 2nd Graders, Gets Banned From School

A classic case of vagina-shaming."

While I don't doubt that some crazy Femi-Nazi would do this, this sounds a bit *too* much like an exaggeration. Maybe 48 hour rule?

Posted by: Thrawn at September 24, 2014 10:33 PM (Oo0Xc)

53
D'Souza was convicted of violating a law, not of "thought crimes". I am pretty sure that D'Souza's prison sentence was reduced in exchange for the agreement to counseling, in which case this trade-off actually worked to his benefit. Also perhaps he could use a little counseling in regards to the question of why he thought/thinks he should be above the law.
Posted by: CQD



Yep. And after the sentencing he was out on the courthouse steps proclaiming his victory because he didn't get jail time, I'm a victim wah! and so on.

Franky, sitting in a quiet room with a counselor getting a few of his screws tightened is just what he needs.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 10:33 PM (kdS6q)

54 39
And what was D'Souza's great depraved crime that requires on-going

mental re-adjustment? He couldn't give $20,000 directly to a friend's

election campaign because of federal election laws so he had two

associates give $10,000 each and then reimbursed them.

Just to clarify, that [is
a crime. The author's argument appears to be with the imposition of
"theraputic counseling", as opposed to "mere" punishment, perhaps
attempting to conflate the legal issues and the political ones. D'Souza
was convicted of violating a law, not of "thought crimes". I am pretty
sure that D'Souza's prison sentence was reduced in exchange for the
agreement to counseling, in which case this trade-off actually worked to
his benefit. Also perhaps he could use a little counseling in regards to the question of why he thought/thinks he should be above the law.



Posted by: CQD at September 24, 2014 10:27 PM (eCKON)


In other words, it was actually criminal to circumvent probably unconstitutional laws. If he's merely flouted the laws, instead of circumventing them, he might have had a better case.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 10:33 PM (T1005)

55 Be well all you crazies. Off to bed for this old guy. Work tomorrow.

T

Posted by: Farmer at September 24, 2014 10:34 PM (o/90i)

56 Okay..I'm putting two and two together.
This administration is going full fascist/cultural revolution and now they're restricting photographers' access to the wilderness.
I think I know where the camps will be placed.

Adjusts tinfoil hat.

Posted by: Northernlurker (AKA TGinTV) at September 24, 2014 10:34 PM (AkoL+)

57 >>> The Forest Service likes to use Wilderness designations to keep people out/off of 'their' land.

It's not wilderness. It's Wilderness (TM).

No one treats that land worse than the Forest Service.

Posted by: fluffy at September 24, 2014 10:34 PM (Ua6T/)

58 Posted by: CQD at September 24, 2014 10:27 PM (eCKON)

You are correct - it is a crime. But it's a bullshit crime that's rarely enforced and that criminalizes something that was perfectly legal and traditional in American politics right up until the 1970s.

A fine and some community service would have been sufficient punishment. But requiring psychological therapy for a campaign finance law violation reeks of Soviet style justice.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 10:34 PM (pAlYe)

59 First overseas customer of the F-5A was the Imperial Iranian Air Force in 1965. It only took Islamic Iran about 50 years to build a local copy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2014 10:35 PM (BlEnL)

60 I've heard the expression. "I'd eat a trail of her cookies" but in this case you might get a tummy ache.

Anyway what about the pecker cookies? What the hell is wrong with people?

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2014 10:35 PM (JdEZJ)

61 What kind of stupid, attention-whoring guttersnipe brings twat cookies to a second grade class? WTF is wrong with people?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:35 PM (mx5oN)

62 4 Point Plan
1. Start Up
2. Cash In
3. Sell Out
4. Bro Down

Posted by: andycanuck at September 24, 2014 10:36 PM (d/dDK)

63 For the camps: challenge and pass. Challenger works the word 'Ewok' into a sentence; other person responds with 'hobo' in a sentence.

Posted by: Secundus at September 24, 2014 10:37 PM (DbICH)

64 "I wonder how much one of those F-5's would go for on ebay? It's a pretty
snazzy ride, and you wouldn't have to get groped by the TSA to go
anywhere."

The ticket these days for a civilianized light fighter is an Aermacchi. I've seen one doing touch and goes at Reid-Hillview airport in Silicon Valley.

http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/591/M-346_3.jpg

Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2014 10:37 PM (noWW6)

65 A fine and some community service would have been sufficient punishment. But requiring therapy for a campaign finance law violation reeks of Soviet style justice.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 10:34 PM (pAlYe)

So that's what happened to Jimmy Hoffa?! Damn, he went to re-education camp and never came back

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian. Kinder, gentler machine gun hand at September 24, 2014 10:37 PM (RMo/a)

66 "Guilty as charged, Your Honor."


What to do?







Posted by: Ricardo at September 24, 2014 10:37 PM (6yqfT)

67 Crap..., did a comment just disappear?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 10:38 PM (l1zOH)

68 Visa Black ads on this smart military blog. Well done, 'rons.

I'm more used to Rent-A-Center.

And Rent-A-Girlfriend, but that's not in the budget at the moment.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 24, 2014 10:38 PM (yxw0r)

69 18 So Dinesh is being sent to Soviet government psychiatrists who will keep injecting him with stuff until he recants?

The Catholic Church in comparison merely showed Galileo some tools and he folded like a cheap tent.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2014 10:19 PM (BlEnL)


There are four lights!

Posted by: Coming soon to a town near YOU! at September 24, 2014 10:38 PM (ecN6u)

70 So anyone watch South Park know if Trey Matt came down as pro-Redskins changing their name, anti-changing their name, or neither? I love the show but I don't always get their point, but sometimes they don't have one and are just being irreverent.

Posted by: Iasonas at September 24, 2014 10:38 PM (DU875)

71 I sleep peaceably in my bed at night because I am way scarier than the monsters what go bump in the night.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:33 PM


^^This.

I decided decades ago that if it comes down to them or me (& mine); me & mine will see tomorrow's sunrise. Them? Not so much.

doG forbid it ever comes to that; but it is well & good to have thought it through in advance.

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 10:38 PM (KCxzN)

72 $1500 for a Forest Service permit to take a picture but only $20 to cut a cord of firewood. I suppose they'll jump the the price of that up to $200, just because.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at September 24, 2014 10:39 PM (nhfjE)

73 Kids swapping lunch items is a time honored tradition. The food Nazis can go horsefcuk.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:39 PM (mx5oN)

74 64
"I wonder how much one of those F-5's would go for on ebay? It's a pretty

snazzy ride, and you wouldn't have to get groped by the TSA to go

anywhere."

The ticket these days for a civilianized light
fighter is an Aermacchi. I've seen one doing touch and goes at
Reid-Hillview airport in Silicon Valley.

http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/591/M-346_3.jpg



Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2014 10:37 PM (noWW6)


That looks all Italianized with no place to put your luggage.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 10:40 PM (T1005)

75 "They don't talk turd disposal till they have enough guns, ammo, food, and water. The time must be nigh."

My survival plan for The Burning Times is twenty thousand pounds of clumping cat litter. It'll be gold, I tell you, good as gold.

(Seriously, you can make an emergency toilet for humans with cat litter, a ten gallon bucket and an old toilet seat. Protip: get the type of bucket with a clamping lid. Extra protip: explain this arrangement to the cat in advance.)

Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2014 10:41 PM (noWW6)

76 The rainforests are causing global warming.

Posted by: Allie Gore at September 24, 2014 10:41 PM (Rlvcv)

77 Out, all. Big morning.................



We'll see.

Posted by: Ricardo at September 24, 2014 10:42 PM (6yqfT)

78 There is a 1967 F-5 Freedom Fighter listed for sale in New Mexico. Priced for quick sale - $1,500,000.

http://tinyurl.com/nkx8qnm

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2014 10:42 PM (BlEnL)

79 >>>I decided decades ago that if it comes down to them or me (& mine); me & mine will see tomorrow's sunrise. Them? Not so much.

Well, *decades* ago, I was in middle school, but your point remains valid.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:42 PM (cIiAK)

80 20 says the restrictions have been in place on a temporary basis for four years and are meant to preserve the untamed character of the country's wilderness.

Really? Are they claiming simply by observing it you change it? Is it Schroedinger's Wilderness?

Posted by: no good deed at September 24, 2014 10:20 PM (w3a0Z)


No, they believe they OWN the land... not us...

They do not believe they are caretakers for we, the Public...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 24, 2014 10:44 PM (f0pWu)

81 Gawd, I would love to have something uplifting and inspiring to say......but that just ain't the AOSHQ way.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at September 24, 2014 10:44 PM (OWjjx)

82 Anyway what about the pecker cookies? What the hell is wrong with people?

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2014 10:35 PM (JdEZJ)


You want pecker cookies? I can bake you pecker cookies. On a Weber.

Posted by: Rainbow Randolf at September 24, 2014 10:44 PM (qLWiP)

83
During the sentencing hearing, Berman read from a blistering letter submitted to the court by DSouzas estranged wife. In the missive, Dixie DSouza alleged that her ex-spouse forged her signature on one campaign contribution form, and that he had an abusive nature.

DSouza, who was married to the defendant for 20 years, wrote, In one instance, it was my husband who physically abused me in April 2012 when he, using his purple belt karate skills, kicked me in the head and shoulder, knocking me to the ground and creating injuries that pain me to this day.



Guy has issues. A few months in Baby's First Gray Bar Hotel and some chats with the nice man in the corduroy coat will do him a world of good.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 10:44 PM (kdS6q)

84 They do not believe they are caretakers for we, the Public...
--------------

The Master/Servant inversion proceeds apace.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 10:45 PM (l1zOH)

85 The U.S. Forest Service has tightened restrictions on media coverage in vast swaths of the country's wild lands, requiring reporters to pay for a permit and get permission before shooting a photo or video in federally designated wilderness areas.

Ok, the fuckers need to be strung up for that alone.

We need to get permission from the government to photograph the wilderness?

Really?

No, not really. Fuck that noise. Any two-bit tyrant in a uniform who tries to enforce that deserves to be shot in the head without warning.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2014 10:45 PM (sdi6R)

86 Do not play ignorant, my friends. You know as well as I do that it was not the vagina, which, after all, is merely the door to the jihad arena for a muslim, but the clitoris.
The clitoris, it was, so shamefully depicted, so shamefully existing, depicted on the Eid Delights meant for the faithful, that offends the enlightened administrators of the New Truth.

Posted by: ValJar's Lesbisn Lolita at September 24, 2014 10:45 PM (gLt83)

87 26 Two words: boobehs.
Posted by: jwpaine at September 24, 2014 10:22 PM (68O4K)


That's three words.

Posted by: Jasmine Trihooter at September 24, 2014 10:45 PM (qyomX)

88 Wow, that art is almost as good as the giant boulder CAC had for us to ponder one evening.
Riveting.

Posted by: mpfs at September 24, 2014 10:45 PM (NfQpF)

89 OT but U2 sucks donkey balls.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2014 10:45 PM (JdEZJ)

90 Anna, shoot me an email at kingzora@gmail.com so we can coordinate meeting up at AWA. I got shuffled to a different room so I'm not sure if I'm still in the con hotel, but I'll know tomorrow.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 24, 2014 10:45 PM (ccxdf)

91 ...Liz Close, the Forest Service's acting wilderness director, says the restrictions have been in place on a temporary basis for four years and are meant to preserve the untamed character of the country's wilderness.


This is unbelievably retarded.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:45 PM (mx5oN)

92 And Rent-A-Girlfriend, but that's not in the budget at the moment.


Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 24, 2014 10:38 PM (yxw0r)


Yep... you Rent Girlfriends....

You Buy Wives...

/and yes, I denounce meself... well.... nahhhhh...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 24, 2014 10:46 PM (f0pWu)

93 91 ...Liz Close, the Forest Service's acting wilderness director, says the restrictions have been in place on a temporary basis for four years and are meant to preserve the untamed character of the country's wilderness.


This is unbelievably retarded.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:45 PM (mx5oN)


They are saying Public land.... is not Public...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 24, 2014 10:47 PM (f0pWu)

94 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 10:44 PM (kdS6q)

You're assuming that his estranged wife is telling the truth.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:47 PM (mx5oN)

95 Well, *decades* ago, I was in middle school, but your point remains valid.
Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:42 PM (cIiAK)

******

Doesn't this statement apply to everyone? It's like most places you wanna go are in walking distance if you have the time.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 24, 2014 10:47 PM (ojnk6)

96 Would this be filed under - Uplifting?

Justine Beiber injures self cliff diving. Might not be able to hear.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2014 10:48 PM (BlEnL)

97 Spun up the mill today and made some chips. Not too many because I got a later start than anticipated, then ran into a few difficulties with reassembly.....and, being that my garage is so stuffed with crap that I actually have to run the mill with the door open, standing outside, I did a chunk of the assembly standing in the sun and got cooked. But I made a cute little staircase out of the corner of a piece of scrap aluminum.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 10:49 PM (T1005)

98 33 The Forest Service likes to use Wilderness designations to keep people out/off of 'their' land.
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2014 10:24 PM (ygltv)



The government wants to keep Americans from treading on land that their ancestors once trod upon in order to keep it in the pristine condition it never was in.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at September 24, 2014 10:49 PM (+Fae7)

99 Extra protip: explain this arrangement to the cat in advance.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2014 10:41 PM


By that point, the cat was yesterday's stir-fry...

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 10:49 PM (KCxzN)

100 DSouza, who was married to the defendant for 20 years, wrote, In one ...instance, it was my husband who physically abused me in April 2012 when he, using his purple belt karate skills, kicked me in the head and shoulder, knocking me to the ground and creating injuries that pain me to this day.
Guy has issues. A few months in Baby's First Gray Bar Hotel and some chats with the nice man in the corduroy coat will do him a world of good.

Did she report this to the police at the time of the alleged crime? Was it properly investigated? Was he convicted or is this a story put together to make him appear to be an asshole?

Posted by: fairweatherbill at September 24, 2014 10:49 PM (nhfjE)

101

Guy has issues. A few months in Baby's First Gray Bar Hotel and some chats with the nice man in the corduroy coat will do him a world of good.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 10:44 PM (kdS6q)


Or the Ex wife has issues...

think about it... she sent a letter to a court about a totally unrelated matter... doing her damndest to get her Ex Jail time...

And then would of course, SUE the crap out of him when he could not pay alimony or child support.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 24, 2014 10:50 PM (f0pWu)

102 >>>Doesn't this statement apply to everyone? It's like most places you wanna go are in walking distance if you have the time.

Good point. Allow me to clarify: TWO decades ago I was in middle school.

*steps on your lawn*

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:50 PM (cIiAK)

103 >>> meant to preserve the untamed character of the country's wilderness.

Then they should undesignate every Wilderness area in White Mountain NF. The whole place had been logged over previously and had plenty of 'artifacts'.

Posted by: fluffy at September 24, 2014 10:51 PM (Ua6T/)

104 So today I went into a little sandwich shop for lunch. I had ordered roast beef, and as was waiting, I started to notice some odd things. In the meat case was a ham that appeared to be.....melting. I had thought that there was a turkey breast on the slicer, but when I looked from another angle I could swear that it wasn't on the slicer, but floating next to it. Pepperoni was "hatching" from an egg. I mean, the sandwich was good, but I don't think I'll be going back to the Salvador Deli

Posted by: Weirddave at September 24, 2014 10:51 PM (9422s)

105 102 >>>Doesn't this statement apply to everyone? It's like most places you wanna go are in walking distance if you have the time.

Good point. Allow me to clarify: TWO decades ago I was in middle school.

*steps on your lawn*
Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:50 PM (cIiAK)

*turns the sprinklers on*

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:51 PM (mx5oN)

106 At least it didn't take Weird Dave 25 paragraphs to tell that one.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 24, 2014 10:52 PM (d/dDK)

107 You're assuming that his estranged wife is telling the truth.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:47 PM (mx5oN)

***********
Hell hath no fury like a woman denied book and documentary royalties.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 24, 2014 10:52 PM (yxw0r)

108 Good point. Allow me to clarify: TWO decades ago I was in middle school.

*steps on your lawn*
Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:50 PM (cIiAK)

*******

4.5 decades for me. My lawn. Off it you will get.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 24, 2014 10:52 PM (ojnk6)

109 You guys are telling me that an EX-wife would lie to try and hurt their former spouse? Impossible.

Posted by: Brandon Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at September 24, 2014 10:53 PM (jucos)

110 Broseidon, hopefully just blew up your mail box.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2014 10:53 PM (BlEnL)

111 >>>DSouza, who was married to the defendant for 20 years, wrote, In one instance, it was my husband who physically abused me in April 2012 when he, using his purple belt karate skills, kicked me in the head and shoulder, knocking me to the ground and creating injuries that pain me to this day.

I'm sure a link to the police report from this incident is forthcoming. Because we all know an ex would never lie.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:53 PM (cIiAK)

112 >>> The government wants to keep Americans from treading on land that their ancestors once trod upon in order to keep it in the pristine condition it never was in.

The Indians groomed the Eastern forests by regular burnings.

Ponder that, Iron Eyes Cody was setting forest fires.

Posted by: fluffy at September 24, 2014 10:54 PM (Ua6T/)

113 104 So today I went into a little sandwich shop for lunch. I had ordered roast beef, and as was waiting, I started to notice some odd things. In the meat case was a ham that appeared to be.....melting. I had thought that there was a turkey breast on the slicer, but when I looked from another angle I could swear that it wasn't on the slicer, but floating next to it. Pepperoni was "hatching" from an egg. I mean, the sandwich was good, but I don't think I'll be going back to the Salvador Deli
Posted by: Weirddave at September 24, 2014 10:51 PM (9422s)

Dude, lay off the acid.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:54 PM (mx5oN)

114 109
You guys are telling me that an EX-wife would lie to try and hurt their former spouse? Impossible.

Posted by: Brandon Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at September 24, 2014 10:53 PM (jucos)

Get OUT.

Posted by: Elaine Bennis at September 24, 2014 10:54 PM (yxw0r)

115 107 You're assuming that his estranged wife is telling the truth.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:47 PM (mx5oN)

***********
Hell hath no fury like a woman denied book and documentary royalties.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 24, 2014 10:52 PM (yxw0r)

Yes indeedy.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:55 PM (mx5oN)

116 Spun up the mill today and made some chips. Not too many because I got a later start than anticipated, then ran into a few difficulties with reassembly.....and, being that my garage is so stuffed with crap that I actually have to run the mill with the door open, standing outside, I did a chunk of the assembly standing in the sun and got cooked. But I made a cute little staircase out of the corner of a piece of scrap aluminum.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 10:49 PM


Had Teh Horde not lost our blanks in our various boating accidents, you could have quite a second income milling AR-15 lowers...

(When you said "chips" I knew exactly what you meant. I do cost estimating for die cast aluminum parts.)

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 10:55 PM (KCxzN)

117 89 OT but U2 sucks donkey balls.
Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2014 10:45 PM (JdEZJ)

One of Maddox's best older posts:

http://tinyurl.com/56xe8

Posted by: Thrawn at September 24, 2014 10:55 PM (Oo0Xc)

118 Guy has issues. A few months in Baby's First Gray Bar Hotel and some chats with the nice man in the corduroy coat will do him a world of good.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 10:44 PM (kdS6q)


Eh. I'm not a really D'Souza fan and not calling him a saint. But I'm not sure I give much weight either to a very recently estranged ex-wife's claims either given the circumstances (and mistress).

Now maybe therapy would help him in dealing with his personal affairs but I don't see how it really relates to violating campaign finance laws.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 10:55 PM (pAlYe)

119 Where's peaches? Survivor started tonight. I'll be watching it a little bit later on.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2014 10:56 PM (Hmnin)

120 104
So today I went into a little sandwich shop for lunch. I had ordered
roast beef, and as was waiting, I started to notice some odd things. In
the meat case was a ham that appeared to be.....melting. I had thought
that there was a turkey breast on the slicer, but when I looked from
another angle I could swear that it wasn't on the slicer, but floating
next to it. Pepperoni was "hatching" from an egg. I mean, the sandwich
was good, but I don't think I'll be going back to the Salvador Deli

Posted by: Weirddave at September 24, 2014 10:51 PM (9422s)


The deli was probably fine -- you should maybe find some Zantac to mitigate your issues with Acid Reflux.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 10:56 PM (T1005)

121 If I want to take a picture in a national park I'm going to take a picture. Just try to fucking stop me.

Assholes.

Who knew the new generation of Nazis would look like Smokey Bear?

Posted by: mpfs at September 24, 2014 10:56 PM (NfQpF)

122
think about it... she sent a letter to a court about a totally unrelated matter... doing her damndest to get her Ex Jail time...
Posted by: Romeo13




If you read the letter over at thesmokinggun, looks like her letter was in response to a stack of documents DD submitted as part of his sentencing, about her, her involvement in his crime and so on. Since he brought her into it, seems fair she gets to tell the judge her side of the story.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 10:57 PM (kdS6q)

123 Nice glasses, dumbass.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 24, 2014 10:57 PM (Oo0Xc)

124 Posted by: mpfs at September 24, 2014 10:56 PM (NfQpF)

Hi there! How are you feeling?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:57 PM (mx5oN)

125 He was such a shitty husband she bolted after only 20 years.

Posted by: Brandon Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at September 24, 2014 10:57 PM (jucos)

126 Now maybe therapy would help him in dealing with his personal
affairs but I don't see how it really relates to violating campaign
finance laws.

He beat up a copy of the Tax Code in an elevator.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 24, 2014 10:57 PM (d/dDK)

127 @97 Sounds like a good day.
Tomorrow you doin' n e 80% lowers you cd help a guy out with?

Posted by: ValJar's Lesbisn Lolita at September 24, 2014 10:58 PM (gLt83)

128 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 10:57 PM (kdS6q)

Even if so, that's a different thing from saying he "has issues" based on the word of an estranged wife who may or may not be full of shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 11:00 PM (mx5oN)

129 Gotta geaux set up the coffee.

BRB

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 11:00 PM (KCxzN)

130 Speaking of Redskins, I'll be going to the game tomorrow night. Tickets were free and I'll be in one of those fancy boxes. The box is directly across from where Snyder sits. The owner of the beltway bandit company I work for is well connected. I went to one game last year and watched KC pummel the 'Skins'. Snyder was looking salty. I have no dog in this NFC East fight (Steelers fan). I'm going for the free game, food, drinks, and to bust the chops of the one lone Giants fan in the shop. Maybe, they might win.

Posted by: puddleglum at September 24, 2014 11:00 PM (i8JTL)

131 Thanks Thrawn. That about sums it up about u2. And that was 10 years ago.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2014 11:00 PM (JdEZJ)

132 Oh noes! The wine is gone.

Luckily, the booze fairy left me a pint of bourbon. Fuck you, sobriety!

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 11:01 PM (cIiAK)

133 When I was in middle school we loved suspension. So they invented this thing called "in-school suspension" where they literally put you in a box.

Posted by: MEATPOLES at September 24, 2014 11:02 PM (Ribls)

134 73 Kids swapping lunch items is a time honored tradition. The food Nazis can go horsefcuk.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 10:39 PM (mx5oN)

My fondest moment in HS was telling the librarian, guidance counselor and various students that I had enough of,them and the fucking school. Yeah this was at a Christian HS. Had enough of their bullshit at the time

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian. Kinder, gentler machine gun hand at September 24, 2014 11:02 PM (RMo/a)

135 He beat up a copy of the Tax Code in an elevator.


Posted by: andycanuck at September 24, 2014 10:57 PM (d/dDK)

The Tax Code fits in an elevator?

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 24, 2014 11:02 PM (yxw0r)

136 When I was in middle school we loved suspension. So they invented this thing called "in-school suspension" where they literally put you in a box.

Was that mime school?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 24, 2014 11:03 PM (W5DcG)

137 Weird Dave......Just, Thank you.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2014 11:03 PM (t//F+)

138 Hey Insomniac!
Went for my physical therapy assessment today. Start the hard stuff next week. I got a look at the hospital bill today...$21,279. Yup Obamacare moving along destroying lives right on schedule.

Posted by: mpfs at September 24, 2014 11:03 PM (NfQpF)

139 Freight elevator.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 24, 2014 11:04 PM (d/dDK)

140 If you read the letter over at thesmokinggun, looks like her letter was in response to a stack of documents DD submitted as part of his sentencing, about her, her involvement in his crime and so on. Since he brought her into it, seems fair she gets to tell the judge her side of the story.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 10:57 PM (kdS6q)


But on the other hand we only have her word that she wasn't involved in the crime.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:04 PM (pAlYe)

141 About that modern "art"...

I was at the museum with my wife and kids and we were looking at some modern art trash. I commented that the fire extinguisher in the wall box was a better piece of art than the garbage we were supposed to be admiring. I guess I said it kind of loud because several other people laughed.

Posted by: Dang at September 24, 2014 11:04 PM (MNq6o)

142 138 Hey Insomniac!
Went for my physical therapy assessment today. Start the hard stuff next week. I got a look at the hospital bill today...$21,279. Yup Obamacare moving along destroying lives right on schedule.
Posted by: mpfs at September 24, 2014 11:03 PM (NfQpF)

Oy vey. Well, best of luck with the PT!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 11:04 PM (mx5oN)

143 My fondest moment in HS was telling the librarian, guidance counselor and various students that I had enough of,them and the fucking school. Yeah this was at a Christian HS. Had enough of their bullshit at the time
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian. Kinder, gentler machine gun hand at September 24, 2014 11:02 PM (RMo/a)

*******

I was able to accomplish something milder but similar to this when I purposely got myself kicked out of Cqtholic grade school in first grade. All my friends were going to public school. My parents were horrified. My brother and sisters neger did tank me for this as there was no attempt made to send them to Penguin jail.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 24, 2014 11:06 PM (ojnk6)

144 Jah see the story about two Ebola victims resurrecting? It's on Insty.

Posted by: Truman North, Moron Emeritus at September 24, 2014 11:06 PM (7Oo+W)

145
Even if so, that's a different thing from saying he "has issues" based on the word of an estranged wife who may or may not be full of shit.
Posted by: Insomniac



Before we get to the she said/he "crane beak strike", his issue is, with knowledge of campaign laws, he engaged in a conspiracy to violate those laws, to give money to a doomed campaign. Then, when caught, and I'm paraphrasing, said "Well, guess I went a little funny in the head".

Saying that he isn't utterly Machiavellian, but needs help dealing with some stuff seems -- accurate.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 11:07 PM (kdS6q)

146 fatwa: http://lettertobaghdadi.com/

Jihadwatch has a rebuttal.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 24, 2014 11:07 PM (3kZUM)

147 "There is a 1967 F-5 Freedom Fighter listed for sale in New Mexico. Priced for quick sale - $1,500,000."

I understand the problem with these is a lack of manufacturer support.

Maybe if you could find some third tier air force that was retiring their frames and buy a few shipping containers full of spares.

By the way, the people who have gotten the really sweet deal out of the F-5 family have been NASA astronauts. They insisted starting back in the Project Mercury days that they needed regular access to high performance jets.

Ostensibly to "keep their flying skills sharp" even though spaceflight wasn't anything like normal aviation. It was all a brazen hustle, but one they got away with. So, NASA lined them up with T-38 Talon trainers, the F-5 without weapons mounts.

It actually worked out well for 1960s NASA, because the astronauts in that breakneck era of the Space Race were constantly having to scoot back and forth between Houston, the Cape, and manufacturing facilities in St. Louis and Los Angeles. The fast jets always at hand were a huge aid in covering all those bases.

Although a couple of guys who would have flown in space eventually did get killed in the process. Dangerous line of work.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2014 11:07 PM (noWW6)

148 143 My fondest moment in HS was telling the librarian, guidance counselor and various students that I had enough of,them and the fucking school. Yeah this was at a Christian HS. Had enough of their bullshit at the time
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian. Kinder, gentler machine gun hand at September 24, 2014 11:02 PM (RMo/a)

Heh. I went to a private "Christian" school for a few years as a kid. Had I the vocabulary I would have said the same thing. Bunch of spoiled rich kid assholes for the most part.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 11:08 PM (mx5oN)

149 Thank you kindly morons.

Shelly Sterling files for bankruptcy in Los Angeles. The crazy old man doesn't want to share any of the 2.5 billion Shelly got for the Clippers.

Posted by: mpfs at September 24, 2014 11:08 PM (NfQpF)

150 You can tell how old someone is by whether they call it, "Middle School," or, "Junior High School."

Posted by: The Lawn at September 24, 2014 11:09 PM (qLWiP)

151
But on the other hand we only have her word that she wasn't involved in the crime.
Posted by: Maetenloch



From the court's perspective, the gov had the opportunity to charge her. They didn't.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 11:09 PM (kdS6q)

152 '144 Jah see the story about two Ebola victims resurrecting? It's on Insty.'

Now the tribe will probably kill em again because they are bewitched.

Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2014 11:10 PM (JdEZJ)

153 I was at the museum with my wife and kids and we
were looking at some modern art trash. I commented that the fire
extinguisher in the wall box was a better piece of art than the garbage
we were supposed to be admiring. I guess I said it kind of loud because
several other people laughed.


Posted by: Dang at September 24, 2014 11:04 PM (MNq6o)
*************

A fire extinguisher in a wall box! Genius! See, because it's taking a commonplace thing and making it the object of observation! Incredible! A new frontier! Please, let me pull out my checkbook.


Posted by: Rich Society Lady Whose Pollacks Are Disintegrating at September 24, 2014 11:10 PM (yxw0r)

154 Off to bed. Taking doggehs to the vet in the morning.

Night all.

Woof!

Posted by: mpfs at September 24, 2014 11:10 PM (NfQpF)

155 MPFS, I hated physical therapy, but, when you start out with the goal of "soon I will be able to touch the top of a door-frame and one day I will touch the ceiling again" it makes the cussing and the frustration bearable.

Gah! ten reps and hold each one ten seconds. Twice a day.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2014 11:11 PM (t//F+)

156 "Went for my physical therapy assessment today. Start the hard stuff next
week. I got a look at the hospital bill today...$21,279. Yup Obamacare
moving along destroying lives right on schedule."

Well, Obamacare hasn't pushed those prices down, as it was purported that it would do, but those prices weren't low even before Obamacare.

It's almost as though a system without up-front, bottom-line cost transparency is a recipe for abuse. But we all know that can't possibly be the case.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2014 11:11 PM (noWW6)

157 144 Jah see the story about two Ebola victims resurrecting? It's on Insty.
Posted by: Truman North, Moron Emeritus at September 24, 2014 11:06 PM (7Oo+W)

Only by having their heads cut off with a sword by another immortal can they die.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 11:11 PM (mx5oN)

158 The cookie story is funny, but almost certainly bullshit. Public schools hardly ever let you bring in sweets for the class anymore, and on the rare occasions they do allow it, those cupcakes had better be commercially prepared with a detailed ingredient list because someone might be allergic to something.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at September 24, 2014 11:12 PM (GmTxn)

159 Geez, school food nazis?
The problem isn't the desserts. It's the sizes of portions, the amounts of crap that parents let their kids eat at home (read: instant gratification, extreme over-indulgence), and lack of exercise.
I've said this before. When I was growing up in the fifties and sixties we had desserts 2 meals a day.

In a school of 200 kids there might be 2 or 3 overweight kids.Obese kids were even rarer.

Kids aren't fat because of what they eat at school. They're fat because of what goes on at home.

People like Bloomberg and Michelle and other nanny staters come up with food nazi crap because they don't have the balls to just deal with people who have the actual problem. So they inflict their fascist rules on everyone.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 24, 2014 11:12 PM (xoSaW)

160 116
Spun up the mill today and made some chips. Not too many because I
got a later start than anticipated, then ran into a few difficulties
with reassembly.....and, being that my garage is so stuffed with crap
that I actually have to run the mill with the door open, standing
outside, I did a chunk of the assembly standing in the sun and got
cooked. But I made a cute little staircase out of the corner of a piece
of scrap aluminum.



Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 10:49 PM



Had Teh Horde not lost our blanks in our various boating accidents, you could have quite a second income milling AR-15 lowers...



(When you said "chips" I knew exactly what you meant. I do cost estimating for die cast aluminum parts.)

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 10:55 PM (KCxzN)


The journey is finally making some lurching forward progress! Besides just random "getting the feel" exercises, the first "production projects" will be milling some door strike plates.

The deal is, this house was built in 1955, and the builder used metal door frames on the interior doors -- don't know where the hell he got 'em, people have speculated that they were from a hotel that didn't get built. But they're solid steel.....really makes you confident about the ol' earthquake advice to stand under a doorframe -- in this house, that will still be standing when the rest of the house is reduced to matchsticks....but I digress.

So the interior doors have these spaces for strike plates, but they're all whack. Compared to standard strike plates sold today, they're T-shaped, with a little tongue for the bent part that engages the bolt. They're also a bit large and the screw holes are in the wrong place.

So I need to take a readily available Home Depot strike plate, mill the tongue, then drill and countersink new mounting holes. And then, the annoying lack of strike plates on 4 interior doors will come to an end! [If you're wondering how we got on without....look back up there, the damned frames are solid steel. The latch has been eroding away on the exposed edge of the steel frame for God knows how many decades and you'd need a microscope to find any erosion.]

If I'm really tricksy, I'm going to mount a ball-catch on the hall entrance coat-closet. It will require milling the receptacle side to fit the tongue slot.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:12 PM (T1005)

161 Anyone wanting to spend a half-hour or so reprising the Air France Flight 447 crash, here's an Ace-sized interesting article from Vanity Fair which goes into detail about it:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/q8ut2qy

Posted by: C-Chord Alert at September 24, 2014 11:14 PM (EORRR)

162 59
First overseas customer of the F-5A was the Imperial Iranian Air Force
in 1965. It only took Islamic Iran about 50 years to build a local copy.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2014 10:35 PM (BlEnL)

=====
Wright Bros -- start work in 1896; achieve powered flight in December 1903. From 1903 to 1965 is about 60 years -- versus about 50 years to copy a plane that was already in Iran's possession.

What could I learn from a comparison like this one?

Posted by: jc at September 24, 2014 11:14 PM (iRJ+A)

163 127
@97 Sounds like a good day.

Tomorrow you doin' n e 80% lowers you cd help a guy out with?

Posted by: ValJar's Lesbisn Lolita at September 24, 2014 10:58 PM (gLt83)


If U R sane, U will let me practice with my own stuff 1st.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:14 PM (T1005)

164 From the court's perspective, the gov had the opportunity to charge her. They didn't.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 11:09 PM (kdS6q)


That doesn't really say much about whether she was involved or not. Perhaps how much evidence the prosecutors had against her or maybe it was just pure prosecutorial discretion.

Maybe he really is an asshole and she's an absolute victim. But on the other hand given teh on-going divorce proceedings and possible future criminal charges, she also has strong motivation to portray herself as an absolute victim.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:15 PM (pAlYe)

165 If I'm really tricksy, I'm going to mount a ball-catch on the hall entrance coat-closet. It will require milling the receptacle side to fit the tongue slot.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:12 PM


Making square corners with a round mill-end is always a chalenge...

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 11:16 PM (KCxzN)

166 If I'm really tricksy, I'm going to mount a ball-catch on the hall
entrance coat-closet. It will require milling the receptacle side to fit
the tongue slot.


Not to be crude or anything, but the term "ball catch" reminds me of riding astride the hood of a late model Mercedes.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2014 11:16 PM (t//F+)

167 Spell We Much!

"challenge"

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 11:17 PM (KCxzN)

168 Judges now mete out re education camp day care . Hopefully we are not leading up to gulags and killing fields. Renamed of course. Much like "therapeutic counseling".

Posted by: gracepmc at September 24, 2014 11:18 PM (rznx3)

169 So I have a friend (not a close friend, but a "casual" friend for decades) who had a stomach ache on Friday. Thought it was heartburn or taking ibuprofen on empty stomach. Went to hospital yesterday. Today I was told he has cancer. In his brain, liver and I can't remember the 2 or 3 other places...

Posted by: Baldy at September 24, 2014 11:18 PM (2bql3)

170 What could I learn from a comparison like this one?

It is hard to advance in arts and science when you are executing people for thought crimes and heresy?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2014 11:18 PM (t//F+)

171 151

But on the other hand we only have her word that she wasn't involved in the crime.
Posted by: Maetenloch



From the court's perspective, the gov had the opportunity to charge her. They didn't.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 11:09 PM (kdS6q)


She didn't write any nasty books about Teh Won.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:18 PM (T1005)

172 Anna, all onboard com systems are go. In other words, I got it and sent back.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 24, 2014 11:18 PM (XQNO+)

173 heh heh

You said "tongue slot"

heh heh, heh

Posted by: Beavis at September 24, 2014 11:19 PM (KCxzN)

174 169, Baldy...

Prayers sent.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at September 24, 2014 11:21 PM (nhfjE)

175 On the subject of Obamacare:

We run out of our 'mercy' extension of our plan at the end of this year. Even though we drop one member of the family, the rate still is up by $500 per month for less coverage and flexibility than we have now.

This is a personal calamity, for we are self employed and money comes and goes and we need liquidity.

They only place I can see that I can get this extra, with the times being what they are, is to reduce our retirement contribution.

Thanks, you fuckers in the Senate, thanks for nothing.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 24, 2014 11:21 PM (l3vZN)

176 Posted by: Baldy at September 24, 2014 11:18 PM (2bql3)

Damn. Sorry about your friend.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2014 11:21 PM (mx5oN)

177 165
If I'm really tricksy, I'm going to mount a ball-catch on the hall
entrance coat-closet. It will require milling the receptacle side to fit
the tongue slot.



Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:12 PM



Making square corners with a round mill-end is always a chalenge...

Posted by: AltonBrandonJackson at September 24, 2014 11:16 PM (KCxzN)


Au contraire! You can make X-Z square corners or Y-Z square corners quite easily....it's only the X-Y corners that are rounded.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:23 PM (T1005)

178 In Answer to Boy George

Boy George ponders just WTF happened with the Rotherham molestation cover-up.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=6739

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 24, 2014 11:25 PM (lN8KC)

179 169
So I have a friend (not a close friend, but a "casual" friend for
decades) who had a stomach ache on Friday. Thought it was heartburn or
taking ibuprofen on empty stomach. Went to hospital yesterday. Today I
was told he has cancer. In his brain, liver and I can't remember the 2
or 3 other places...


Posted by: Baldy at September 24, 2014 11:18 PM (2bql3)


That's a time when "that sucks" doesn't really even come close....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:26 PM (T1005)

180 So Bob Livingston had Mike Wallace stone cold in a multi-million dollar libel judgement, and they settled for an apology? I'm supposed to be inspired by this?

Posted by: Herve Villechaize at September 24, 2014 11:27 PM (oSS/M)

181 oh, doG: we were sightin' in pellet guns & millin' AR receivers & now we're talkin' Boy George?

Serious You Guys, we need to get back on track

Posted by: Beavis at September 24, 2014 11:29 PM (KCxzN)

182 180
So Bob Livingston had Mike Wallace stone cold in a multi-million dollar
libel judgement, and they settled for an apology? I'm supposed to be
inspired by this?

Posted by: Herve Villechaize at September 24, 2014 11:27 PM (oSS/M)


I wasn't going to be the first....but, yeah, sue him for everything he's got and everything he'll earn until the next millenium. Let him do his next "special report" from a refrigerator box under a bridge.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:30 PM (T1005)

183 Sock off

Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2014 11:30 PM (oSS/M)

184 Baldy - I'm very sorry to hear about your friend. Cancer has taken a number of my friends over the last 10 years or so. Frightening.

Life can change so quickly. We forget that, or at least I do. I bitch and moan about about the smallest things..., often forgetting the big picture.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:30 PM (F2IAQ)

185 It is good that the Left is pushing harder and harder to get what they want.

We can't rid ourselves of them until they go far enough to force a choice.

The spring is ready.

Posted by: eman at September 24, 2014 11:30 PM (MQEz6)

186 Quin Hilyer writes as if he's some kind of hero for letting Mike Wallace lie for another 2 decades. I'm so glad he lost his race for dogcatcher.

Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2014 11:31 PM (oSS/M)

187 @162 That sometimes it's better to skip an observance required of you by political authorities when you know you're on the trail of something.
But, but, if the government could just step in and implant a chip that would let the authorities know when you're about to invent the flying car, or 64bit encryption, or a bullshit detector politicians would have to insert in their rectums... you know most of them would be all in favor of minitiarization & other tech innovations.@

Posted by: ValJar's Lesbian Lolita at September 24, 2014 11:31 PM (gLt83)

188 Off, sock

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 24, 2014 11:31 PM (KCxzN)

189 GAHH! Just flipped up the comment thread (I've been reading long boring fatawa by liars)

Really horrible about your buddy, Baldy. Fucking cancer. It sucks. Just hanging out spreading until finally letting itself be known with a tummyache. The taqiyya of diseases.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 24, 2014 11:34 PM (3kZUM)

190 Is that poster real?
Posted by: otho at September 24, 2014 10:10 PM (tBSrv)


Seeing as it was signed by Sabo, I'll say yes. Dude is the one who created the "Tatted Cruz" poster- great stuff.

Posted by: Bill H at September 24, 2014 11:34 PM (3sZO1)

191 Crap, just went to see a man about a dog and my face is seriously pink.....which means my bald spot is probably radiating IR like a jet exhaust.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:35 PM (T1005)

192 Not to be crude or anything, but the term "ball catch" reminds me of riding astride the hood of a late model Mercedes.
Posted by: Kindltot
--------------------

That's nothing compared to a '57 Chevy.
http://tinyurl.com/kvxvhup

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:35 PM (F2IAQ)

193 Crap, just went to see a man about a dog and my face is seriously pink.....which means my bald spot is probably radiating IR like a jet exhaust.
Posted by: cthulhu
----------------

Somehow, I think you're working at it to hard.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:36 PM (F2IAQ)

194 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:35 PM (F2IAQ)




That's a '56. The '57 had "rockets" coming out of the hood.





(My first car was a '56.)

Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2014 11:38 PM (HesC7)

195 That Honda Murder Fit commercial made me laugh.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 11:38 PM (cIiAK)

196 And I'm not even right. It's a '55. It has the elongated tail.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2014 11:39 PM (HesC7)

197 >>> Crap, just went to see a man about a dog and my face is seriously pink.....which means my bald spot is probably radiating IR like a jet exhaust.

Eat more salad, or maybe just let it percolate next time.

Posted by: fluffy at September 24, 2014 11:39 PM (Ua6T/)

198 not to be paranoid or anything, but there's a lot of helicopter activity tonight, here just outside the wire of The People's Republik of AnnArbor

And it makes me wonder...

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 24, 2014 11:39 PM (KCxzN)

199 "Today I
was told he has cancer. In his brain, liver and I can't remember the 2 or 3 other places..."

Well, the first two are pretty much likely to get it done.

In the midst of life we are in death.

Send him our best wishes.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2014 11:39 PM (noWW6)

200 yo RINOs

just put a CTR and magpul handgrip on the WASR
I decided to add a sight mount and rails instead of front furniture
and give it to nck for her 13th bday

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:40 PM (QIQY1)

201
Drudge: Dead Ebola Patients Resurrect?




OK, here come the Zeds!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 24, 2014 11:40 PM (kdS6q)

202 193
Crap, just went to see a man about a dog and my face is seriously
pink.....which means my bald spot is probably radiating IR like a jet
exhaust.

Posted by: cthulhu

----------------



Somehow, I think you're working at it to hard.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:36 PM (F2IAQ)


We're @193 in an ONT that's been up for an hour-and-a-half, I'm more cooked than drinking, and I'm free-associating.....is this a problem?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:40 PM (T1005)

203 Holy crap! I went back and looked at the photo of those cookies. They do look like vaginas. That whack job put a lot of effort into her little project.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 24, 2014 11:40 PM (xoSaW)

204 The ironic thing is he has other things that I would have thought would have killed him first. It is such an awful thing. I looked on Facebook, and I would have thought our mutual friends would have talked about it, at least obliquely, but maybe they don't know.

Posted by: Baldy at September 24, 2014 11:40 PM (2bql3)

205 180 So Bob Livingston had Mike Wallace stone cold in a multi-million dollar libel judgement, and they settled for an apology? I'm supposed to be inspired by this?
Posted by: Herve Villechaize at September 24, 2014 11:27 PM (oSS/M)


Well having some legal evidence and actually litigating and winning a libel suit against CBS when you're a public figure are two different things. You could easily win the case and yet still be bankrupted.

The takeaway for me is to always act as if members of the media are dishonest lying hacks who are conspiring to set you up. Which means recording and documenting everything and having witnesses to back you up. You may be pleasantly surprised on occasion but that's not the way to bet.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:42 PM (pAlYe)

206 Night y'all. I'll be back Sunday night. Going to spend the next four days drinking beer next to a campfire.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2014 11:42 PM (HesC7)

207 203 That whack job put a lot of effort into her little project.

but were they tuna flavored?

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:42 PM (QIQY1)

208 have fun, Country Singer, travel safe

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 24, 2014 11:43 PM (KCxzN)

209 205 The takeaway for me is to always act as if members of the media are dishonest lying hacks who are conspiring to set you up.

so treat them like they're cops?

Which means recording and documenting everything and having witnesses to back you up.

i'll take that as a yes

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:44 PM (QIQY1)

210 Country - Yer right about the ornaments. Damn, I *am* envious of the camping. G'night.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:46 PM (F2IAQ)

211 >>>203 Holy crap! I went back and looked at the photo of those cookies. They do look like vaginas.

I am not a doctor, but my advice is that if your vagina looks like that, you should see your ob/gyn immediately.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 11:47 PM (cIiAK)

212 lying hacks who are conspiring to set you up.

so treat them like they're cops?


So you're saying the cops ARE conspiring to set people up?

Wouldn't that be an illegal act?

And in that case would it not be prudent to have an attorney present and record the interaction?

Speak loudly please - I'm trying to get this all on the iphone's stupid recording app....

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:48 PM (pAlYe)

213 Molly Line on O'bill....damn nice

Posted by: The Jackhole at September 24, 2014 11:48 PM (dULJN)

214 The takeaway for me is to always act as if members of the media are dishonest lying hacks who are conspiring to set you up.
-----------------

If you show up at work, and there is a crew from '60 Minutes' out front, probably better to go around to the back door.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:49 PM (F2IAQ)

215 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 24, 2014 11:50 PM (UVfht)

216 some big-assed thwacker helo just loitered over the apartment complex for about a minute...

I couldn't get a clear shot (kidding)

WTF is going on?

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 24, 2014 11:50 PM (KCxzN)

217 Wright Bros -- start work in 1896; achieve powered flight in December 1903. From 1903 to 1965 is about 60 years -- versus about 50 years to copy a plane that was already in Iran's possession.What could I learn from a comparison like this one?
Posted by: jc at September 24, 2014 11:14 PM (iRJ+A)

---------

Comedian Larry Miller wrote an article for the Weekly Standard many moons ago on Iran working to get a nuclear bomb. He laughed and said the main reason they hadn't built one yet was due to the fact they didn't have any jews.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 24, 2014 11:50 PM (KlVdw)

218 If you show up at work, and there is a crew from '60 Minutes' out front, probably better to go around to the back door.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:49 PM (F2IAQ)


And don't forget that the local news station's crew there to get 'your side of the story' are likely to be even less ethical than 60 Minutes.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:50 PM (pAlYe)

219 WTF is going on?
Posted by: AltonJackson
-----------------

They've figured out where you live....

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:53 PM (F2IAQ)

220 212 So you're saying the cops ARE conspiring to set people up?

you're kidding right?
of course they are

my favorite trick was if a fool was quiet after cuffed, I would get him in the car, drive really slow and the long way back and not say a word myself
the pressure always popped and they would shoot off their mouths
then I would stop, read them their rights....and use their statement against them

and it was 100% legal

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:53 PM (QIQY1)

221 So, without the fiancee, it's too quiet -- so I did a random dig into the music collection....and out popped an interesting counterpoint to Ace's earlier post about shaming and validation. So.... http://tinyurl.com/35e8efq

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2014 11:53 PM (T1005)

222 In the midst of life we are in death.

**************



Yeah, but against the backdrop of eternity, this life is a stubbed toe, and death is only hard on the living. Which is not to say any pain is not painful.

Baldy, I'm very sorry about your friend.

I know a Guy who can take the worry away.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 24, 2014 11:54 PM (yxw0r)

223 Wright Bros with high school educations -- start work in 1896; achieve powered flight in December 1903.
---------

Edited for completeness

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:54 PM (F2IAQ)

224 so AK owners, need advice
rail for the top of the cover or a side mount?
I want to mount a trijicon

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:55 PM (QIQY1)

225 If you show up at work, and there is a crew from '60 Minutes' out front, probably better to go around to the back door.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:49 PM (F2IAQ)

And don't forget that the local news station's crew there to get 'your side of the story' are likely to be even less ethical than 60 Minutes.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:50 PM


We had a crew from the WSJ in this morning to interview our CEO. Pomp & Circumstance We Much!

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 24, 2014 11:55 PM (KCxzN)

226 220 212 So you're saying the cops ARE conspiring to set people up?
you're kidding right?
of course they are


Wait - so you're saying that police regularly conspire to set up people for crimes that they did not commit and that the police know that they did not commit?

I just want to be clear that you're saying what I think you're saying.

Because if so, that is very, very bad.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:55 PM (pAlYe)

227 woohoo!!!
TNA wrestling is on
my future ex-wife goes up against some 200lb monster chick

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:56 PM (QIQY1)

228 226 so you're saying that police regularly conspire to set up people for crimes that they did not commit and that the police know that they did not commit?

oh no
crimes we know they committed

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:57 PM (QIQY1)

229 E plebnista

Posted by: eman at September 24, 2014 11:57 PM (MQEz6)

230 my favorite trick was if a fool was quiet after cuffed, I would get him in the car, drive really slow and the long way back and not say a word myself
the pressure always popped and they would shoot off their mouths
then I would stop, and shoot their dog.
.

Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2014 11:58 PM (FCQFW)

231 navycopjoe wasn't saying anything of the sort, Maet, as anyone who's been following his pro-cop comments at the HQ will know.

navycopjoe is a cop himself and has repeatedly voiced opposition to commenters here who have voiced complaints about his profession.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 24, 2014 11:58 PM (3kZUM)

232 B+rry's campaign was funded with million$$$$ in untraceable money and Algore got those $$$ from poverty stricken buddist monks.

Posted by: torabora at September 24, 2014 11:58 PM (dgHAU)

233 NCJ, good evening! Your Jay Cutler comments the other day inspired me to buy this:



http://tinyurl.com/zippoace

Posted by: Steck at September 24, 2014 11:58 PM (5i94q)

234 so AK owners, need advice
rail for the top of the cover or a side mount?
I want to mount a trijicon
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:55 PM (QIQY1)

*******

Mine have new covers with a rail for top mount of a Bushnell Holosite and a MI rear flip for irons.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 24, 2014 11:59 PM (ojnk6)

235 228 226 so you're saying that police regularly conspire to set up people for crimes that they did not commit and that the police know that they did not commit?
oh no

crimes we know they committed
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:57 PM (QIQY1)


And therefore you set them up i.e. manufacture evidence to convict them with?

That's less evil but still evil nonetheless.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:59 PM (pAlYe)

236 I can't get over the vagina cookies. In what possible world would someone think that would be appropriate for 7 year olds?

Is this real life?

Posted by: Lauren at September 24, 2014 11:59 PM (BPMYx)

237 Um...believe me, if you're a sitting Congressman, you can easily get a law firm to take a contingency fee case on your behalf.

In libel, one has to prove damages, and as long as Livingston keeps winning reelection, there are no provable damages. So the best he could hope for is a 1$ judgment.

But he pays no legal fees, just flows a portion of the normal course of the legal business going through his office to a new firm and:

Through leaking things learned in discovery and cross examining Mike Wallace on the stand in public, he ruins Mike Wallace's reputation, renders him unemployable, and sends a warning shot across the bow of every other reporter who wants to slander/libel a Republican. (It should be noted that it is an ethical breach for the lawyer to leak things learned in discovery, but the client is free to do so.)

But that would require a fighting instinct. (Shrug.)

Posted by: Oschisms at September 25, 2014 12:00 AM (oSS/M)

238 Never talk to the cops.

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 12:00 AM (MQEz6)

239 Warning: that Mike Wallace link is to the American Specator (which I avoid, as it is an enabler of lawfare censorship).

Posted by: MTF at September 25, 2014 12:00 AM (bMqZ4)

240 You're right, I said million dollar libel judgment. What I really meant was a neutering of your enemies.

Posted by: Oschisms at September 25, 2014 12:01 AM (oSS/M)

241 Thank you everyone for the kind words. A family friend, probably one of the sweetest, finest women I ever knew went to the doctor with a headache a few years ago. The doc said she had a brain tumor. I think she was dead in either 2 weeks or 2 months, I can't remember. This friend of mine now, the thing that gets me is I would have thought someone would have shown up earlier, but I don't know...

Posted by: Baldy at September 25, 2014 12:02 AM (2bql3)

242 Never talk to the cops.
Posted by: eman
------------------

And yet, I spoke to one this evening.
He was looking for some guy reportedly running around in his underwear. It wasn't me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2014 12:02 AM (F2IAQ)

243 E plebnista
Posted by: eman at September 24, 2014 11:57 PM (MQEz6)


Yang worship words. Do you speak it?

Posted by: Cloud William at September 25, 2014 12:02 AM (W5DcG)

244 NCJ:
my favorite trick was if a fool was quiet after cuffed, I would get him in the car, drive really slow and the long way back and not say a word myself
the pressure always popped and they would shoot off their mouths
then I would stop, read them their rights....and use their statement against them

and it was 100% legal


That's not manufactured evidence. That's a confession. Not even a forced confession. An innocent man in that situation would say "sir" (or, "asshole"), "quit wasting my time and either bring me up on charges or let me off"

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 25, 2014 12:02 AM (3kZUM)

245 Never talk to the cops.
Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 12:00 AM (MQEz6)

******

Not true. Talk to them and say only "I want an Attorney", then STFD and STFU.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 12:02 AM (ojnk6)

246 Buck up little campers, tomorrow is the big day when

Posted by: Charles DeMar at September 25, 2014 12:02 AM (xVB0A)

247 Another reason that album was worth buying -- http://tinyurl.com/lcbeqdp

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 12:03 AM (T1005)

248 He was looking for some guy reportedly running around in his underwear. It wasn't me.


Did you tell him, "But I like his style."

Posted by: garrett at September 25, 2014 12:03 AM (FCQFW)

249 I'm not even necessarily pro-cop but this is weak tea.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 25, 2014 12:03 AM (3kZUM)

250 Why?!?!?!?!?!?!

NBC and Adam Sandler want to make the movie Real Genius into a sit-com.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/24/nbc-real-genius-comedy/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 12:04 AM (BlEnL)

251 Jinx the cat, send me an email, maybe I can help re: Obamacare. My nic at gmail

Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 12:04 AM (7TK5d)

252 230 heh
I left a hanging curve, didn't I?

231 navycopjoe is a cop himself and has repeatedly voiced opposition to commenters here who have voiced complaints about his profession

was and now I just give the benefit of the doubt to the popo

238 Never talk to the cops

this!!!!
lawyer up and shut up

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:04 AM (QIQY1)

253 Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/514640475857625088

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/514640660218273793

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/514640878590496768

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/514641115036008448

Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2014 12:05 AM (aTXUx)

254 The settlement between the Spectator and he who will not be named is...puzzling...unless they're not paying libel insurance premiums anymore and don't have an in house attorney.

They're acting like they're you and me and bleeding from legal costs.

Posted by: Oschisms at September 25, 2014 12:05 AM (oSS/M)

255 244 NCJ:
my favorite trick was if a fool was quiet after cuffed, I would get him in the car, drive really slow and the long way back and not say a word myself
the pressure always popped and they would shoot off their mouths
then I would stop, read them their rights....and use their statement against them

and it was 100% legal

That's not manufactured evidence. That's a confession. Not even a forced confession. An innocent man in that situation would say "sir" (or, "asshole"), "quit wasting my time and either bring me up on charges or let me off"
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 25, 2014 12:02 AM (3kZUM)

Except why is the guy in the car?

Is he cuffed?

Under arrest except for the reading of his rights?

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 12:05 AM (MQEz6)

256 But that would require a fighting instinct. (Shrug.)
Posted by: Oschisms at September 25, 2014 12:00 AM (oSS/M)


Wait - go back to step one and explain to me why a law firm would take the case on contingency when the likely judgement is sub $20?

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 12:05 AM (pAlYe)

257 ditch the trijicon and buy 2 ak's for the price of the sight.

Posted by: Sir Jackie Stewart at September 25, 2014 12:06 AM (bFvwC)

258 235 And therefore you set them up i.e. manufacture evidence to convict them with

no, you never frame a guilty guy
perfect example: OJ

244 That's not manufactured evidence. That's a confession

yep, known as an involuntary utterance
loved them

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:06 AM (QIQY1)

259 I left a hanging curve, didn't I?


You are the reason my batting average is always above the Mendoza line.

Posted by: garrett at September 25, 2014 12:06 AM (FCQFW)

260
$1500 for a Forest Service permit to take a picture but only $20 to cut a cord of firewood. I suppose they'll jump the the price of that up to $200, just because.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at September 24, 2014 10:39 PM (nhfjE)






$20 for a cord of firewood you soon won't be able to use, as wood fires are rapidly being banned.

'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2014 12:07 AM (8v9fw)

261 Guns N Boobs Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/514847757962866689

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/514847930562646016

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/514848188751413248

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/514848554347950080

Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2014 12:07 AM (aTXUx)

262 245 Never talk to the cops.
Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 12:00 AM (MQEz6)

******

Not true. Talk to them and say only "I want an Attorney", then STFD and STFU.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 12:02 AM (ojnk6)

Yes, say the magic words and that's it.

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 12:07 AM (MQEz6)

263 It's a good idea to lawyer up and shut up anyway just because if you say something that looks bad, it can be evidence.

"My Cousin Vinny" illustrates one horrible possibility - a shoplifter and accessory-after-the-fact accidentally 'confessing' to a murder.

A chat with a lawyer at the start and the two jokers could have copped to the shoplifting (if they felt that guilty about it), paid the court costs, reimbursed the store and been back to New York.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 25, 2014 12:08 AM (3kZUM)

264 was and now I just give the benefit of the doubt to the popo
238 Never talk to the cops
this!!!!
lawyer up and shut up
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:04 AM (QIQY1)


But we weren't even talking about the police until you made your allegations that they regularly 'set up' people for crimes?

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 12:08 AM (pAlYe)

265 I'm busy with important matters of very high importance. Like watching BBT and playing spades. What's your excuse?

Posted by: DC in River City at September 24, 2014 10:27 PM (cIiAK)


"Playing Spades"?

Wait, did we meet at the bathhouse?

Posted by: Reggie Love at September 25, 2014 12:08 AM (lN8KC)

266 so AK owners, need advice
rail for the top of the cover or a side mount?
I want to mount a trijicon

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:55 PM


SKS / Iron Sights here. Similar, yet different. I'd go with top-mount (over the receiver) (@ that end of the business the AK & the SKS are practically the same)

But what do I know? I pick up my ChiCom boom-stick, apply my booger-hook to the bang switch, & it goes "bang" every time.

Don't get me started about my Tokerev M213, which frequently provides the "click" with no "bang"

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 25, 2014 12:09 AM (KCxzN)

267 255 Except why is the guy in the car?
Is he cuffed?
Under arrest except for the reading of his rights?

what we called military apprehension, being transported, always transported in cuffs

you only have to read the rights before you ask him questions
you don't ask and he gives it up, then you have to read him his rights at the first natural break, then read them
but whatever he said is usable

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:09 AM (QIQY1)

268 Wright Bros with high school educations

So, the equivalent of a Master's today.

Thank a teacher, you stingy bastards!

Posted by: shovel more moolah into the maw of Education, that'll help at September 25, 2014 12:10 AM (EORRR)

269 That koala video reminded me of this "True facts about marsupials":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqQL-1gZF8

Posted by: The Pouched Hat at September 25, 2014 12:10 AM (lN8KC)

270 And don't forget that the local news station's crew there to get 'your side of the story' are likely to be even less ethical than 60 Minutes.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:50 PM (pAlYe)

Local newspeople have the same arrogance, bias, and self-importance as national newspeople, but with even less intelligence and talent.

Newspeople print inaccuracies all the time and they don't see any problem with it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 25, 2014 12:11 AM (xoSaW)

271 "But he pays no legal fees, just flows a portion of the normal course of the legal business going through his office to a new firm and:"

Congressional Offices have occasion to hire outside counsel, I'm sure? They'll get a slice of his current business. Or one of the firms he's dealing with will take it. They know he's headed to K Street eventually anyway, right?

I mean, everyone knows that the spouse of the Governor has a job at any law firm she likes, right? (cough, Hilary, cough)

Posted by: Oschisms at September 25, 2014 12:11 AM (oSS/M)

272 You can tell how old someone is by whether they call it, "Middle School," or, "Junior High School."

Posted by: The Lawn at September 24, 2014 11:09 PM (qLWiP)


I call it the "school of love"

Posted by: Roman Polanski at September 25, 2014 12:11 AM (lN8KC)

273
Why not penis cookies?

Because these people are sexist, that's why!

By the way, Tony Stewart won't be charged for running over Kevin Ward, who had his hands up.

And some Hollywood dick with a big yacht and 5 luxury homes scattered about the country lectured the UN about global something.

This message has been brought to you by Twenty Mule Team Borat.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 25, 2014 12:11 AM (wAt8R)

274 ohh... right. ncj was MP.

Military give up civilian rights and get different rights when enlisted.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 25, 2014 12:12 AM (3kZUM)

275
Buck up little campers, tomorrow is the big day when

Posted by: Charles DeMar at September 25, 2014 12:02 AM (xVB0A)







The Brown Truck Of Happiness delivers a case of 5.56mm and a PMC battlepack of .45 Auto.

*squeeee!*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2014 12:12 AM (8v9fw)

276 I just don't understand the amount of money I'm willing to lose taking the case of a sitting politician. It's far more than I can afford, yet I'll rob a bank to cultivate that relationship.

Posted by: Oschisms at September 25, 2014 12:13 AM (oSS/M)

277 The F5: America's Chevrolet of fighter jets.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2014 12:13 AM (N1dAS)

278 266 and 257 many thanks
I was thinking side because the cover feels like cheap aluminum and I figured a mount on top would lose its zero constantly if not rip it

we are all chipping in for it
my sisters are get the sight
me and T are doing the rifle

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:13 AM (QIQY1)

279 274 Military give up civilian rights and get different rights when enlisted.

the UCMJ is a beautiful thing

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:14 AM (QIQY1)

280 But we weren't even talking about the police until you made your allegations that they regularly 'set up' people for crimes?
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 12:08 AM (pAlYe)

*****

Maet, NCJ only described a tactic that II'm sure is used quite often with initial responding officers who are driving a suspect tuey either know or strongly suspect are guilty. I saw nothing posted about any coercion or manufacturing anything. It is described as a way to get people who are initially silent to volunteer to talk.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 12:14 AM (ojnk6)

281 It's a good idea to lawyer up and shut up anyway just because if you say something that looks bad, it can be evidence.


We prefer the terms "mouthpiece." It's a matter of respect.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2014 12:15 AM (N1dAS)

282 And therefore you set them up i.e. manufacture evidence to convict them with?

That's less evil but still evil nonetheless.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:59 PM (pAlYe)

ncj bragging about it no less firms my resolve if I'm a juror to never take a cops word in court above any other witness, nor statements to the media.

Don't complain about not being able to do your job if you can't perform it without violating your oath to obey the Constitution.

ncj says it's perfectly legal to read a suspect his rights AFTER he's talked, but I'm betting an appeals judge would overturn any conviction resulting from it in about 5 minutes

Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2014 12:15 AM (aTXUx)

283 Military give up civilian rights and get different rights when enlisted.

"You have the right to be saluted by a lukewarm latte."

Posted by: UCMJ, Subchapter D, Section 808, Article BO at September 25, 2014 12:16 AM (EORRR)

284 Congressional Offices have occasion to hire outside counsel, I'm sure? They'll get a slice of his current business. Or one of the firms he's dealing with will take it. They know he's headed to K Street eventually anyway, right?

I see the work involved in preparing for a libel suit against a deep-pocketed network easily swamping whatever routine legal business a congressman might have. Unless they're truly convinced the plaintiff is destined for great things, I don't see them investing the time and effort for a libel suit with little return.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 12:16 AM (pAlYe)

285 I think what NCJ is talking about is the power of silence. I'm in a not quite sales job (It could be one, and some folks treat it as such, but I've always acted as an agent, not a salesman.). Still, the power of silence is awesome. After going through everything, answering all questions, "so the choices are X, Y and Z. Which one works best for you?" And just SHUT UP. Sit there with a pleasant, expectant expression. And sit. And sit. 9 times out of 10 they'll say " I'll take X" within 30 seconds. Try it yourself sometime.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 12:16 AM (7TK5d)

286 That came out all incoherent. What I'm saying is if a sitting Congressman walks into your office asking you to take a case on contingency, even without an explicit quid pro quo, are you going to say no? It's far more likely you'll spend what it takes for discovery and expert witnesses and live in your car than say no to a sitting Congressman.

Posted by: Oschisms at September 25, 2014 12:17 AM (oSS/M)

287 the UCMJ is a beautiful thing
Posted by: navycopjoe
-------------------

Depends on whether you are dispensing, or the dispensee.

See..., I wasn't *really* AWOL..., it's just that I met this girl at a bar...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2014 12:17 AM (F2IAQ)

288
Anything Trijicon on an AK seems like overkill to me, but if it makes you happy, go for it. One thing to consider is that if you're talking ACOG, they appear to sit fairly tall above the rail, so you might have some issues with cheekweld. Might need to add in a cheek riser to the original Soviet style stock, or maybe a straight stock like an ACE or an AR-type.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2014 12:18 AM (8v9fw)

289 238
Never talk to the cops.

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 12:00 AM (MQEz6)


**************
This is the correct answer.

"I want a lawyer" should do it, but they will make your life miserable until said lawyer comes. Be prepared.

Cops are violent, often corrupt, and see the world through an us-versus-them lens.

Be polite, and say, "I want a lawyer" and nothing else.
They will lie their butts off. Do not reciprocate that favor. In fact, it's a crime if you do. Keep your mouth shut.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 25, 2014 12:18 AM (yxw0r)

290 218 If you show up at work, and there is a crew from '60 Minutes' out front, probably better to go around to the back door.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2014 11:49 PM (F2IAQ)

And don't forget that the local news station's crew there to get 'your side of the story' are likely to be even less ethical than 60 Minutes.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 11:50 PM (pAlYe)



Treat every mic like it is live because it is. TV reporter standing there just shooting the breeze with you while the cameraman is getting some shots of other things, he is still recording you. Nothing you say is "off the record". The reporter may say he/she wants to be buds, but they will sell you out in a second if it means getting a story.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at September 25, 2014 12:19 AM (+Fae7)

291 Good news - just won $7 on Powerball

Bad news - did not win the jackpot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 12:19 AM (BlEnL)

292 282 ncj says it's perfectly legal to read a suspect his rights AFTER he's talked

no, its legal if the popo doesn't ask him a question

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:19 AM (QIQY1)

293 And hope to hell an unnecessary double masectomy walks in the door in the next couple of days...

Posted by: Oschisms at September 25, 2014 12:20 AM (oSS/M)

294 By the way, Tony Stewart won't be charged for running over Kevin Ward, who had his hands up.

Toxicology also says Ward was high as a kite. Sometimes Darwin won't be denied.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 12:21 AM (7TK5d)

295 I think what NCJ is talking about is the power of silence.
--------------

Working high end consumer electronics, I trained my salesmen to simply say 'Hello' to customers, and loiter a distance away. Given enough time and space, they would eventually tell you what it is that they wanted. No need to home in on them like sharks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2014 12:21 AM (F2IAQ)

296 Good news - just won $7 on Powerball


PRO TIP: Take it in donuts. They hold their value longer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2014 12:21 AM (N1dAS)

297 288 that's a good point
I just put on a Magpul CTR so yeah, it'll sit high

i'll have to compare sights for heights
I know she would want a EOTech combo but it seems like overkill too

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:22 AM (QIQY1)

298 Navycopjoe needs to get Lois Lerner into his car for a nice long ride.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 25, 2014 12:22 AM (wAt8R)

299 Bad news - did not win the jackpot.
Posted by: Anna
------------------

* puts away long simpering plea for financing of insane projects *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2014 12:22 AM (F2IAQ)

300 ncj bragging about it no less firms my resolve if I'm a juror to never take a cops word in court above any other witness, nor statements to the media.

The tone wasn't the best.

I started out defending him against the charge of manufacturing evidence, but some of these "tricks" could definitely get someone who was overly chatty, or scared, or just drunk (picked off the street at 1:30 AM waddling back home) in serious trouble.

I mean, suppose someone said "dude, I met this blonde b!tch at the club and I was hoping to HIT THAT SH!T" to the cop and then, some blonde prostitute was found beaten to death that night.

Case closed, muthafuckaz! The Boulder Blonde Basher! Soon to be in the annals with ol' Jack from London. Especially if that unlucky sod had a history of "toilet hobo" comments in a site like this.

Yeah. Real life kind of stinks.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 25, 2014 12:23 AM (3kZUM)

301 A couple of tactics cops use to get a suspect to squeal:

1) "Admit to X or else we'll write more tickets"
2) "Oh c'mon, just admit to it and we'll go easy on you in court"

With #1, they might in fact write more tickets, but if you admit to the larger offense, you're pretty much dead in the water at that point. I'd rather be charged with the lesser "contempt of cop" type offenses.

#2 rarely works out for suspect. Once the tickets/complaints are written, it goes to the DA/prosecutor who decides what to do with it. Maybe the cop gives the prosecutor the heads up to go easy, maybe he/she doesn't. So it's better to admit nothing and let them write you up for whatever little they have to go on.

Posted by: Iasonas at September 25, 2014 12:23 AM (DU875)

302 Mike, you gonna need to shake that booty a lot harder if you want to buy the F-5 jet fighter.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (BlEnL)

303 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 12:19 AM (BlEnL) - I guess that means my mom I won!

Posted by: Baldy at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (2bql3)

304 PRO TIP: Take it in donuts cat litter. They hold their value longer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (F2IAQ)

305 PRO TIP: Take it in donuts cat litter. They hold their value longer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (F2IAQ)

306 Maet, NCJ only described a tactic that II'm sure is used quite often with initial responding officers who are driving a suspect tuey either know or strongly suspect are guilty. I saw nothing posted about any coercion or manufacturing anything. It is described as a way to get people who are initially silent to volunteer to talk.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 12:14 AM (ojnk6)


No he said 'set up' which implies fraud on the police's side. However the tactic he described is really letting the suspect talk too much and implicate himself.

But it's the casual admission of setting up people that concerns me.

Now I know that NCJ was just trying to stir up shit and so I'm just having some fun with him.

However.....given his background I do take his allegations of rampant and routine police abuse of people seriously. He was in a position to know so we shouldn't just dismiss his claims. :-)

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (pAlYe)

307 Thank you everyone for the kind words. A family
friend, probably one of the sweetest, finest women I ever knew went to
the doctor with a headache a few years ago. The doc said she had a brain
tumor. I think she was dead in either 2 weeks or 2 months, I can't
remember. This friend of mine now, the thing that gets me is I would
have thought someone would have shown up earlier, but I don't know...


Posted by: Baldy at September 25, 2014 12:02 AM (2bql3)


Its a shitty disease. It took my mom in a month...poof. I buried an uncle 3 weeks ago, and he basically deteriorated in front of my eyes. Sometimes I don't think science gives a flying fuck about a cure.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (FMbng)

308
Okay, here's a movie remake I'm actually kind of interested in. A 2013 Japanese redo of Unforgiven, with samurai in Meiji-era Japan. Starring Ken Watanabe.

Dood.

http://tinyurl.com/qy8youx

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (8v9fw)

309 you know, I could give her my 512 and get a XPS for myself.....

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (QIQY1)

310 ncj says it's perfectly legal to read a suspect his rights AFTER he's talked, but I'm betting an appeals judge would overturn any conviction resulting from it in about 5 minutes

You'd be wrong. Cops can't ask questions w/o Miranda, and are required to give it before pursuing any conversation, but if they pull up to your house because of a shots fired call and you greet them with "I killed the bitch" you can bet your ass that's going to be used against you in court.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 12:25 AM (7TK5d)

311 crimes we know they committed

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 24, 2014 11:57 PM (QIQY1)

If you KNOW they committed the crime, why do you need a confession tricked out of them? If you KNOW, you have evidence anyway, right?

As you're seeing with Darren Wilson in Ferguson, remember that the Constitution can sometimes be a cop's best friend too.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2014 12:25 AM (aTXUx)

312 306 Now I know that NCJ was just trying to stir up shit and so I'm just having some fun with him

that's it in a nutshell

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:25 AM (QIQY1)

313
"Toxicology also says Ward was high as a kite. Sometimes Darwin won't be denied."

Get stoned, drive race car, wreck car, run around track in the middle of race car traffic.

Darwin couldn't have missed this one if he tried.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 25, 2014 12:26 AM (wAt8R)

314 Still, the power of silence is awesome.

This is utter bullshit.

I've been like Cistecrian monk to Mila Kunis, and ... nothing.

NOTHING!

Posted by: Willy Loman Redux at September 25, 2014 12:26 AM (EORRR)

315 Okay, here's a movie remake I'm actually kind of interested in. A 2013 Japanese redo of Unforgiven, with samurai in Meiji-era Japan. Starring Ken Watanabe.



Ken Watanabe is to Asian roles what Vito Scotti used to be to Eastern European roles.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2014 12:26 AM (N1dAS)

316 311 If you KNOW they committed the crime, why do you need a confession tricked out of them? If you KNOW, you have evidence anyway, right?

once again...OJ

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:27 AM (QIQY1)

317 313
"Toxicology also says Ward was high as a kite. Sometimes Darwin won't be denied."

Get stoned, drive race car, wreck car, run around track in the middle of race car traffic.

Darwin couldn't have missed this one if he tried.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 25, 2014 12:26 AM (wAt8R)


Ol' Chuck was about to nod off, too.

Never fails.

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 12:28 AM (MQEz6)

318 Meiji era Japan is threatened by a giant lizard so they cast Ken Watanabe...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 12:28 AM (BlEnL)

319 Get stoned, drive race car, wreck car, run around track in the middle of race car traffic.
---------------

In many ways, this is the story of the Obama Administration.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2014 12:28 AM (F2IAQ)

320 Get stoned, drive race car, wreck car, run around track in the middle of race car traffic.
---------------

In many ways, this is the story of the Obama Administration.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2014 12:28 AM (F2IAQ)

321 Get stoned, drive race car, wreck car, run around track in the middle of race car traffic.
---------------

In many ways, this is the story of the Obama Administration.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2014 12:28 AM (F2IAQ)

322 okay kids, the girls are glued to the tv and i'm off to the tub
be back when the sun dwellers are around

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:28 AM (QIQY1)

323 that's it in a nutshell
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 25, 2014 12:25 AM (QIQY1)


But then you made your startling allegations (and admission) of crimes by police. So I have to take that seriously. It's in the unpublished Blog Rules and everything.

Oh and please repeat that part back about bodies - my iphone fritzed out for a second...

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 12:29 AM (pAlYe)

324 Yeah, yeah..., I know...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 25, 2014 12:29 AM (F2IAQ)

325 And Mike scores the Triple Lulz again.

Japan - 7.8
USSR - 7.0
Yugoslavia - 5.8/6.1/6.4/7.1/8.0

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 12:30 AM (BlEnL)

326
Meiji era Japan is threatened by a giant lizard so they cast Ken Watanabe...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 12:28 AM (BlEnL)







Little Hideki, Sheriff of Big Sake, let the lizards off with a fine of several salamanders paid to the Geisha's pimp.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2014 12:30 AM (8v9fw)

327 Its a shitty disease. It took my mom in a
month...poof. I buried an uncle 3 weeks ago, and he basically
deteriorated in front of my eyes. Sometimes I don't think science gives a
flying fuck about a cure.


Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (FMbng)
**********
Took 10 years on my mom. For the last six months, she was an open-mouthed vegetable. Not drooling, 'cause her mouth was dry and black.

F**k cancer.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 25, 2014 12:30 AM (yxw0r)

328 Perhaps a confession leads to a warrant which leads to physical evidence which leads to we don't need your confession anymore.

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 12:31 AM (MQEz6)

329 Y'know, sometimes.... http://tinyurl.com/yjeryfk



[Yeah, I was just listening to that from teh stash.]

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 12:32 AM (T1005)

330 "Its a shitty disease. It took my mom in a month...poof. I buried an
uncle 3 weeks ago, and he basically deteriorated in front of my eyes.
Sometimes I don't think science gives a flying fuck about a cure."

So part of the problem is the way we think conceptually and semantically about "Cancer".

As in "War On Cancer", yet another one of the costly interminable wars declared by the federal government that has not produced a clear victory. (See also: War On Drugs, War On Terror, et cetera.)

There's a clear implication that all we need to do is find somehow the single solitary pharmacological magic bullet to solve the problem of Cancer, singular.

Biomedically, though, it's not Cancer, singular. Rather, it's "cancers", plural, with a whole bunch of different mechanisms operative down at the level of molecular biology, which makes the problem really hard to get to grips with.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2014 12:33 AM (noWW6)

331 You'd be wrong. Cops can't ask questions w/o Miranda, and are required to give it before pursuing any conversation, but if they pull up to your house because of a shots fired call and you greet them with "I killed the bitch" you can bet your ass that's going to be used against you in court.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 12:25 AM (7TK5d)

Not yet cuffed and taken into custody, sure, he's incriminated himself and it's all good

I've just read too many instances where cops have tricks to coerce confessions to the point where they can get somebody born in 1964 to confess to shooting JFK

Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2014 12:33 AM (aTXUx)

332 Its a shitty disease. It took my mom in a month...poof. I buried an uncle 3 weeks ago, and he basically deteriorated in front of my eyes. Sometimes I don't think science gives a flying fuck about a cure.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (FMbng)

*******

I'm in the Medical biz, and much focus is on the treatment of cancer rather than the cure of cancer. There is work being done on cures, don't get me wrong. Let me just say it would not surprise me to see a scenario like amclinical scientist coming up with a new and exciting treatment for the cure of cancer. Hypothetically, this man may be made a very, very wealthy person by having this new and exciting treatment purchased by a big ass Pharma company. Then, the treatment will run into snags in the approval process and eventually get shelved permanently. Meanwhile, treatment drugs fly out the door. I may or may not have seen this a time or 3 in the last 24 years.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 12:34 AM (ojnk6)

333 No they don't give up their rights


They if they are in the back of the car and start blabbing it isn't from interrogation

That's true of anyone

It has to be the result of questioning

Civilian or military

There was a famous case where two cops were transporting a guy back to the station for questioning in a murder

It was Christmas Eve

The two cops started talking to each other about how it would mean so much to the family to get the body back for Christmas

All in front of the perp

All to elicit a confession

It worked

All perfectly legal, because they weren't asking him anything

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2014 12:34 AM (zOTsN)

334 IllTemperedCur, Hideiki needs to get smitten by the love bug over a green eyed girl who dives in the ocean for a living...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 12:35 AM (BlEnL)

335 Maet, NCJ only described a tactic that II'm sure is used quite often with initial responding officers who are driving a suspect tuey either know or strongly suspect are guilty. I saw nothing posted about any coercion or manufacturing anything. It is described as a way to get people who are initially silent to volunteer to talk.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 12:14 AM (ojnk6)



It's also the way that the media gets idiots to sound like idiots on camera.

When a reporter asks you a question, answer it in the most concise way possible. When the reporter just sits there holding the mic up waiting for more is when people blurt out the stupid shit because they think they just need to keep adding more so that the interview goes "well". What they need to do is just look at the reporter and say "do you have any more questions, because if not, I have a very busy schedule today". Usually, that gets them to ask another question because they didn't get the "gotcha".

This is how they "got" Todd Akin, instead of just saying "next", he had to add more to his response. Short and concise is how to deal with the media.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at September 25, 2014 12:35 AM (+Fae7)

336
they can get somebody born in 1964 to confess to shooting JFK

Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2014 12:33 AM (aTXUx)







Okay, so I was in Texas, in 1964...... YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING! COME AND GET ME PIGS!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2014 12:36 AM (8v9fw)

337 Cops can't ask questions w/o Miranda


*************

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Sorry. Um... "LOL, kind sir."

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 25, 2014 12:36 AM (yxw0r)

338 The whole police evidence conversation reminds me of the Adrian Peterson apology for hitting his kid. An apology is an admission of guilt. If you're not guilty, why are you apologizing?

Posted by: fairweatherbill at September 25, 2014 12:36 AM (nhfjE)

339 If they confession which is illegally obtained leads to more evidence you can't exclude the confession and use the additional evidence. It's fruit of the poisonous tree

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2014 12:36 AM (zOTsN)

340 I always thought if I got properly accused of a crime I would just clam up. Period. Completely. Even if they brought in Mom. Even if they sent me to a headshrinker. Even in court. Even in jail. No matter who talked to me or what they said, I would just look at them like they were crazy.

It's a stupid idea, but I've always wanted to try it.

Luckily, I haven't wanted to try it badly enough to take to a life of crime.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 25, 2014 12:37 AM (wAt8R)

341 Biomedically, though, it's not Cancer, singular. Rather, it's "cancers", plural, with a whole bunch of different mechanisms operative down at the level of molecular biology, which makes the problem really hard to get to grips with.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2014 12:33 AM (noWW6)


Which reminds me of the XKCD cartoon where a student starts a Ph.D. program hoping to 'cure cancer' but realizes after a few years that in fact there are hundreds of 'cancers' and that it could a be a life's work just to cure one of them.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 12:37 AM (pAlYe)

342 Now I know that NCJ was just trying to stir up shit and so I'm just having some fun with him.

However.....given his background I do take his allegations of rampant and routine police abuse of people seriously. He was in a position to know so we shouldn't just dismiss his claims. :-)
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 12:24 AM (pAlYe)

*******

Sheesh, you don't work with a straight man in your act very often, do ya?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 12:37 AM (ojnk6)

343 And sometimes, the night is right for loud overproduced Eurotrash.... http://tinyurl.com/mpwfkd

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 12:37 AM (T1005)

344 Biomedically, though, it's not Cancer, singular.
Rather, it's "cancers", plural, with a whole bunch of different
mechanisms operative down at the level of molecular biology, which makes
the problem really hard to get to grips with.



Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2014 12:33 AM (noWW6)


************
Understood, but damn, it'd be nice if we could kill one or two of them. Toenail cancer, something.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 25, 2014 12:40 AM (yxw0r)

345 "Cops can't ask questions w/o Miranda, and are required to give it before
pursuing any conversation, but if they pull up to your house because of
a shots fired call and you greet them with 'I killed the bitch' you can
bet your ass that's going to be used against you in court."

That's my usual opening line during traffic stops.

Fun for the whole family.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2014 12:40 AM (noWW6)

346 330
"Its a shitty disease. It took my mom in a month...poof. I buried an

uncle 3 weeks ago, and he basically deteriorated in front of my eyes.

Sometimes I don't think science gives a flying fuck about a cure."

So part of the problem is the way we think conceptually and semantically about "Cancer".

As
in "War On Cancer", yet another one of the costly interminable wars
declared by the federal government that has not produced a clear
victory. (See also: War On Drugs, War On Terror, et cetera.)

There's
a clear implication that all we need to do is find somehow the single
solitary pharmacological magic bullet to solve the problem of Cancer,
singular.

Biomedically, though, it's not Cancer, singular.
Rather, it's "cancers", plural, with a whole bunch of different
mechanisms operative down at the level of molecular biology, which makes
the problem really hard to get to grips with.



Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2014 12:33 AM (noWW6)


But note -- as is the case with all the other "war on...." constructions, taxpayers are supposed to unquestioningly pay outrageous sums to be against it.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 12:40 AM (T1005)

347 If they confession which is illegally obtained leads to more evidence you can't exclude the confession and use the additional evidence. It's fruit of the poisonous tree

Posted by: ThunderB at September 25, 2014 12:36 AM (zOTsN)


*DUN*DUN*

Posted by: Law & Order: Ace of Spade at September 25, 2014 12:43 AM (lN8KC)

348 The new way to attack cancers is to target specific molecules unique to the cancer cell or ones that in one way or another the cancer cell needs.

This approach can make the treatment less generally toxic, more specific to killing or injuring cancer cells over healthy cells. That's groovy, but the price is it takes more time to find those targets and then find bullets to hit them.

I worked on one that recently was approved. It targets a few types of blood cancers and lymphatic system cancers. It has saved lives.

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 12:44 AM (MQEz6)

349 I've just read too many instances where cops have tricks to coerce confessions to the point where they can get somebody born in 1964 to confess to shooting JFK

There's a really good chapter in the book Homicide: Life on the Streets on just this subject. You should read it if you're interested ( you should read it anyway, it's excellent).

Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 12:45 AM (7TK5d)

350 Flinging more Eurotrash out there -- 'cause it's fun -- http://tinyurl.com/5ddjb7

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 12:46 AM (T1005)

351 But note -- as is the case with all the other "war
on...." constructions, taxpayers are supposed to unquestioningly pay
outrageous sums to be against it.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 12:40 AM (T1005)
*********

A thought...and only 'cause I've been drinking...
How about this: The company that CURES, rather than finds an expensive means to TREAT things like cancer and HIV and chronic diseases like diabetes gets to operate tax-free for 100 years.
I'm sure there's some sober argument against that.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 25, 2014 12:46 AM (yxw0r)

352 Via Drudge:

Dead Ebola Patients Resurrect?

http://tinyurl.com/p5qnjf9

Posted by: George Romero's Hat at September 25, 2014 12:48 AM (lN8KC)

353 I should add that I have seen the above scenario in cases where a very specific type of a cancer was targeted. The FDA surely throws up major roadblocks. That damn disease has more permutations than I could list, and is constantly shifting. Howeger, once a cure is found for a micro targeted version of it, the knowledge will build and spread eventually to the other forms.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 12:48 AM (ojnk6)

354 "This is how they 'got' Todd Akin, instead of just saying 'next', he had
to add more to his response. Short and concise is how to deal with the
media."

What Akin illustrates is that the best possible way to deal with the media is not to deal with the media AT ALL.

Akin had a double digit lead in the polls over Claire McCaskill, who was a deeply unpopular incumbent.

All he had to do was sit back and smile and wave, decline all interviews and debates, and let third-party intermediaries savage Air Claire for him.

But no! Akin _actively sought out_ the media. He asked his staff to aggressively schedule press interviews.

(And, inter alia, a genuinely professional staff would have smiled and nodded and beaten him up and chloroformed him and put him in a car trunk to keep him from talking to the media. But he didn't have a professional staff. He had enthusiastic-amateur family members running his campaign.)

And why did Akin seek out the media? Because he had a Very Important Message To Convey To The Public. About magic rape sperm detectors.

Akin got his way. He conveyed his very important message to the public. And his double-digit lead turned into double digits down in about eight hours' time. Oh boy.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2014 12:49 AM (noWW6)

355 Gozer the Traveler returns....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 12:49 AM (BlEnL)

356 351
But note -- as is the case with all the other "war

on...." constructions, taxpayers are supposed to unquestioningly pay

outrageous sums to be against it.



Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 12:40 AM (T1005)
*********

A thought...and only 'cause I've been drinking...
How
about this: The company that CURES, rather than finds an expensive
means to TREAT things like cancer and HIV and chronic diseases like
diabetes gets to operate tax-free for 100 years.
I'm sure there's some sober argument against that.


Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 25, 2014 12:46 AM (yxw0r)


How 'bout you cram copyrights and patents back into the limited lives they had a hundred years ago? Y'know, before state corruption became a serious business model....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 12:49 AM (T1005)

357 Dead Ebola Patients Resurrect?

If all them start doing it, we can quit worrying about this disease.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 25, 2014 12:50 AM (wAt8R)

358 336
they can get somebody born in 1964 to confess to shooting JFK

Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2014 12:33 AM (aTXUx)


Okay, so I was in Texas, in 1964...... YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING! COME AND GET ME PIGS!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2014 12:36 AM (8v9fw)




If I ever have some serious shit that takes me to the hospital in the back of an ambulance, I'm confessing to JFK's murder. You know that you will be getting A1 care at the hospital so that they can make a show out of arresting you.

Of course, I was born in 65, so they can't pin it on me.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at September 25, 2014 12:50 AM (+Fae7)

359 What I meant of course was that cops can't use your answers against you in court without Miranda. Sheesh. Cops can ask you questions all day long withou Miranda, and you can confess to kidnapping the Lindbergh baby if you want, but it isn't evidence if you haven't been mirandized. Sheesh. First the Atheist thread, now this. Whole damn website's been infected with pedants.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 12:51 AM (7TK5d)

360 This is how they "got" Todd Akin, instead of just
saying "next", he had to add more to his response. Short and concise is
how to deal with the media.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at September 25, 2014 12:35 AM (+Fae7)


The media always finds an Akin. It used to be Palin and before that Quayle.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 25, 2014 12:51 AM (Om9Yh)

361 How 'bout you cram copyrights and patents back into the limited lives they had a hundred years ago? Y'know, before state corruption became a serious business model....

-------

Umm, no.

Posted by: Mickey Mouse at September 25, 2014 12:51 AM (N1dAS)

362 361
How 'bout you cram copyrights and patents back into the limited lives
they had a hundred years ago? Y'know, before state corruption became a
serious business model....



-------



Umm, no.

Posted by: Mickey Mouse at September 25, 2014 12:51 AM (N1dAS)


Umm, yes.

And you're the poster-boy.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 12:53 AM (T1005)

363 That came out all incoherent. What I'm saying is if a sitting
Congressman walks into your office asking you to take a case on
contingency, even without an explicit quid pro quo, are you going to say
no? It's far more likely you'll spend what it takes for discovery and
expert witnesses and live in your car than say no to a sitting
Congressman.


If a sitting Congressman walks into my office asking me to take a case on contingency I'll tell him to get lost.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 25, 2014 12:54 AM (UVfht)

364 "The new way to attack cancers is to target specific molecules unique to
the cancer cell or ones that in one way or another the cancer cell
needs. This approach can make the treatment less generally toxic, more
specific to killing or injuring cancer cells over healthy cells. That's
groovy, but the price is it takes more time to find those targets and
then find bullets to hit them."

Yep.

Although there are multitudes of different cancers, there are certain semi-generic biological mechanisms that many of them exploit. So, statistically, finding a mechanism interrupt is a good play.

Angiogenesis in solid tumor cancers would be an example.

It may not necessarily kill the tumor, but the tumor will grow much more slowly and give time for various other therapeutics to get traction. Lots of cancer patients die simply because the clock ran out. Change the time curve and more of them will survive.


Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2014 12:55 AM (noWW6)

365 Now maybe therapy would help him in dealing with his personal affairs but I don't see how it really relates to violating campaign finance laws.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 10:55 PM (pAlYe)


Maybe the therapy is to help him understand why he is not above the law. His behavior, both personal and political, does seem to indicate that he puts himself on something of a special pedestal, which is not really healthy behavior.

Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 12:55 AM (eCKON)

366 I should also point out that both patents and copyrights would benefit from a "....and that's still the way they're doing it" limitation. Copyrights should lapse 5 years after last production, and patents 5 years after last use.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 12:56 AM (T1005)

367 Dead Ebola Patients Resurrect?

Well, ain't that something.

Posted by: Winston Zeddmore at September 25, 2014 12:58 AM (A6vWB)

368 Luckily, I haven't wanted to try it badly enough to take to a life of crime.

A man could learn a few things from Hillary MiddleName Clinton. This being one of them ...

Posted by: Adriane the Political Critic... at September 25, 2014 01:01 AM (P+IZm)

369 he puts himself on something of a special pedestal, which is not really healthy behavior.
Posted by: CQD
------------------

What are you trying to say?

Posted by: Bill Clinton..., or any Kennedy at September 25, 2014 01:01 AM (F2IAQ)

370 he puts himself on something of a special pedestal, which is not really healthy behavior.
Posted by: CQD
------------------

What are you trying to say?

Posted by: Bill Clinton..., or any Kennedy at September 25, 2014 01:01 AM (F2IAQ)

371 he puts himself on something of a special pedestal, which is not really healthy behavior.
Posted by: CQD
------------------

What are you trying to say?

Posted by: Bill Clinton..., or any Kennedy at September 25, 2014 01:01 AM (F2IAQ)

372 365
Now maybe therapy would help him in dealing with his personal affairs
but I don't see how it really relates to violating campaign finance
laws.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2014 10:55 PM (pAlYe)

Maybe
the therapy is to help him understand why he is not above the law. His
behavior, both personal and political, does seem to indicate that he
puts himself on something of a special pedestal, which is not really
healthy behavior.


Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 12:55 AM (eCKON)


As opposed to the Governing Class? Are you seriously implying that Obama, Holder, Lerner, and every other snowflake with a Federal ID doesn't need therapy to understand that the law applies to them, but it applies to D'Souza?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 01:02 AM (T1005)

373 Sidebar. Apparently Ridley Scott is saying Prometheus 2 will lack any alien chest bursters. Methinks Scott has been replaced by an IOS 8 powered Nexus 4 Replicant.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 01:02 AM (BlEnL)

374 There's a really good chapter in the book Homicide: Life on the Streets on just this subject. You should read it if you're interested ( you should read it anyway, it's excellent).

Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 12:45 AM (7TK5d)

I'd like to because I really LOVED the show, it even made Belzer tolerable. It was never highly rated so NBC wouldn't run it every week, causing me to rain curses on them when they ran Dateline at 10 pm instead

The show jumped the shark when they started making Bayliss a bisexual, but it did miraculously last 7 seasons.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2014 01:02 AM (aTXUx)

375 A chat with a lawyer at the start and the two
jokers could have copped to the shoplifting (if they felt that guilty
about it), paid the court costs, reimbursed the store and been back to
New York.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 25, 2014 12:08 AM (3kZUM)

************************
But then no Marisa Tomei.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 25, 2014 01:02 AM (t2m1Y)

376 The MFM will always have the conservative object of ridicule du jour but there is nothing funny about Joe Biden.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 25, 2014 01:02 AM (Om9Yh)

377 CQD at September 25, 2014 12:55 AM (eCKON)

not healthy behavior for a Republican

FIFY ...

Posted by: Adriane the Political Critic... at September 25, 2014 01:03 AM (P+IZm)

378
Akin got his way. He conveyed his very important message to the public. And his double-digit lead turned into double digits down in about eight hours' time. Oh boy.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2014 12:49 AM (noWW6)



He was part of the 28% of GOPer's that trust the media.

I bet he isn't now.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at September 25, 2014 01:03 AM (+Fae7)

379 If you guys don't want more Eurotrash, you should say something..... http://tinyurl.com/pxsz4ey

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 01:04 AM (T1005)

380 Not every attorney is as established as you. The supply/demand curve is with the Congressman. Lots more attorneys just eking it out. Not so many can refuse a sitting City Councilman. And again, he makes the laws. He has existing relationships with people who argue the laws, both in his state and DC.

He doesn't need anybody but someone who'd like to ingratiate themselves with/reinforce their relationship with, an existing Congressman.

I guess people like that don't exist.

Again, I see a missed opportunity to crucify someone who does nothing but broadcast vitriol about Republicans. Like John Boehner getting Joy Behar in a headlock for a cell phone photo, these people want nothing more than to be liked by those who despise them. Like feeding the alligator last.

Posted by: Oschisms at September 25, 2014 01:05 AM (oSS/M)

381 Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 01:02 AM (BlEnL)

Replicants are usually better looking ...

Posted by: Adriane the Film Critic... at September 25, 2014 01:05 AM (P+IZm)

382 Well he is based off the Leon model...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 01:06 AM (BlEnL)

383 So, NASA lined them up with T-38 Talon trainers, the F-5 without weapons mounts.

******************

torquewrench -- they still are using them.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 25, 2014 01:06 AM (t2m1Y)

384 Sidebar. Apparently Ridley Scott is saying Prometheus 2 will lack any alien chest bursters. Methinks Scott has been replaced by an IOS 8 powered Nexus 4 Replicant.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 01:02 AM (BlEnL)


Good to know he isn't a lesbian...

Posted by: Rick Deckard at September 25, 2014 01:06 AM (lN8KC)

385 If you guys don't want more Eurotrash, you should say something..... http://tinyurl.com/pxsz4ey

Something: http://youtu.be/udBP7poismk

Wait, still Eurotrash.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 25, 2014 01:06 AM (UVfht)

386 359
What I meant of course was that cops can't use your answers against you
in court without Miranda. Sheesh.


Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 12:51 AM (7TK5d)
**************

'Cause short little body-armored shits with I-didn't-make-the-high-school-football-team issues never lie about when their questions were asked, or whether Miranda warnings were issued.

I'm sorry. I've been drinking.
I wish you well.

Pedant, signing out.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 25, 2014 01:06 AM (yxw0r)

387 Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 01:06 AM (BlEnL)

So filming the Tortoise and the Hare is out ?!?

Posted by: Adriane the Film Critic... at September 25, 2014 01:07 AM (P+IZm)

388 #56Northernlurker
Bingo.
If the hat fits!
Back to channeling the CIA microwaves in my head...

Posted by: b at September 25, 2014 01:08 AM (XUWkT)

389 Adriane, yeah that's out. Been replaced by Torture and Snare.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 01:09 AM (BlEnL)

390 Not every attorney is as established as you.

I'm not an attorney. My office is not a law office.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 25, 2014 01:09 AM (UVfht)

391
Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 01:06 AM (BlEnL)

So filming the Tortoise and the Hare is out ?!?

Posted by: Adriane the Film Critic... at September 25, 2014 01:07 AM (P+IZm)









Bow-chick-a-wow-wow.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2014 01:09 AM (8v9fw)

392 "Dead Ebola Patients Resurrect?"

Braaaaiiiinsssss!

Posted by: Kristophr at September 25, 2014 01:11 AM (0zVEV)

393 Oh ya...

So was trying to find video of the Russians laughing at Obama during the Un speech--maybe that shouldn't be shown but what's bugging me is it has gone down the worm hole.

So--can only find a still photo of that on one search engine.


Whatever --maybe that's for the best.

However found this instead---


It's hot.



Palestinians get in fight with UN Security at the prelims for Obama's address --I think.

See it here:

http://tinyurl.com/msr46t6


(link takes you to CNN)




Posted by: your friendly Danube River guide at September 25, 2014 01:12 AM (RJMhd)

394 Oyasumi

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 01:12 AM (BlEnL)

395 not healthy behavior for a Republican

FIFY ...

Posted by: Adriane the Political Critic... at September 25, 2014 01:03 AM (P+IZm)


You may be correct in the political sense, but in an objective sense I believe that any man who sleeps around and gets engaged to Woman #2 while still married to Woman #1 (with whom he has a child) may have some issues that need dealing with.

Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 01:14 AM (eCKON)

396 You know who the sidebar benefits?

Posted by: hugh hewitt's chicken harem at September 25, 2014 01:14 AM (3kZUM)

397 He was part of the 28% of GOPer's that trust the media. I bet he isn't now.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at September 25, 2014 01:03 AM (+Fae7)


Well since he admitted to believing that women's vaginas contain magic rape sperm goalies, he probably still is. He's stupid like that.

Posted by: buzzion at September 25, 2014 01:14 AM (zt+N6)

398 385
If you guys don't want more Eurotrash, you should say something..... http://tinyurl.com/pxsz4ey

Something: http://youtu.be/udBP7poismk

Wait, still Eurotrash.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 25, 2014 01:06 AM (UVfht)


Not everything European is Eurotrash....and not all Eurotrash is even European -- http://tinyurl.com/ysnefb (Berlin was formed in LA).

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 01:14 AM (T1005)

399 Good Night, Anna ...

Posted by: Adriane... at September 25, 2014 01:15 AM (P+IZm)

400 Heh. RollingStone has a big story up about the Evil Kochs! Read the comments. The deriders and mockers are outnumbering the quarter-wit lefties. I think the country is waking up.

Posted by: Semi-supine scroller at September 25, 2014 01:17 AM (BKaug)

401 Really? Are they claiming simply by observing it you change it? Is it Schroedinger's Wilderness?

Posted by: no good deed at September 24, 2014 10:20 PM (w3a0Z)


I used to tell the gate trolls at Banff National Park that I would drive through, on the Trans-Canada Highway, with my eyes closed, so as not to wear out the scenery.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 25, 2014 01:18 AM (yDmQD)

402 "Went for my physical therapy assessment today. Start the hard stuff next

week. I got a look at the hospital bill today...$21,279. Yup Obamacare

moving along destroying lives right on schedule."

Well,
Obamacare hasn't pushed those prices down, as it was purported that it
would do, but those prices weren't low even before Obamacare.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 24, 2014 11:11 PM (noWW6)


***********************


It never made sense that you could increase demand for medical goods and services without increasing supply and prices would go down. That flies in the face of Econ 101. I have never met a liberal who could explain what a cost curve was, let alone how one is bent.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 25, 2014 01:18 AM (t2m1Y)

403 CQD at September 25, 2014 01:14 AM (eCKON)

OJ Simpson wasn't a Republican ...

Posted by: Adriane... at September 25, 2014 01:18 AM (P+IZm)

404 Not everything European is Eurotrash....and not all Eurotrash is even European -- http://tinyurl.com/ysnefb (Berlin was formed in LA).

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 01:14 AM (T1005)


I think that I've mentioned this before, but I remember hearing that song year and years ago on the radio.

Since I misheard the lyrics, I could never find out who that band was or what the song was... until I chanced across is on VH1 Classic.

Posted by: The Metro Hat at September 25, 2014 01:21 AM (lN8KC)

405 404
Not everything European is Eurotrash....and not all Eurotrash is even
European -- http://tinyurl.com/ysnefb (Berlin was formed in LA).



Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 01:14 AM (T1005)



I think that I've mentioned this before, but I remember hearing that song year and years ago on the radio.



Since I misheard the lyrics, I could never find out who that band
was or what the song was... until I chanced across is on VH1 Classic.





Posted by: The Metro Hat at September 25, 2014 01:21 AM (lN8KC)


I saw 'em in concert at the Santa Barbara County Bowl with The Fixx and A Flock of Seagulls!


*Fuck, I'm old.....*

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 01:24 AM (T1005)

406 I saw 'em in concert at the Santa Barbara County Bowl with The Fixx and A Flock of Seagulls!


*Fuck, I'm old.....*
Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 01:24 AM (T1005)

******

The Fixx was the first album I ever bought....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 01:27 AM (ojnk6)

407 KBDabear, check your twitter messaging

Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 01:28 AM (9422s)

408 "If I ever have some serious shit that takes me to the hospital in the back of an ambulance, I'm confessing to JFK's murder."

Torque, flailing on the stretcher in the ambulance, clutching chest: "It was me! I was on the grassy knoll!"

Twentysomething paramedic: "Grass? Naw bro. I got my Prop 215 card. All set up now. Don't need nuthin. Thanks though."

Later, at the hospital, DOA corpse being unloaded.

Twentysomething paramedic: "He said something about, like, Dallas. But isn't that in Oklahoma or Louisiana or something? Maybe he has family down there, I dunno. Hey, you want to go get sushi later?"

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2014 01:28 AM (noWW6)

409 CQD at September 25, 2014 01:14 AM (eCKON)

OJ Simpson wasn't a Republican ...

Posted by: Adriane... at September 25, 2014 01:18 AM (P+IZm)


In a sense, we're both right. You are correct that OJ didn't go to jail for murder, which was wrong. But there was something definitely wrong with him (which would my point regarding D'Souza), that turned out to be the source of a pattern of behavior which caused him to be caught and convicted the second time. If the guilty plea and therapy helps D'Souza avoid that fate, it will actually have worked to his benefit.

Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 01:29 AM (eCKON)

410 The media always finds an Akin. It used to be Palin and before that Quayle.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 25, 2014 12:51 AM (Om9Yh)



Quayle and Palin were painted as "not ready", even though both had more experience than Obama. The problem they ran into is that the GOP doesn't do anything to try to help their candidates become more media savvy. When Katie Couric asked Palin what news sources she reads, Palin should have just chuckled and said "Katie, we get the same newspapers and magazines that you get in New York, this is the 21st century and technology has made information and news easy to get even in remote areas". That answer serves 2 purposes, answers the question and second it makes Couric look like an ass.

Akin, well he was just one of those candidates that implodes every election. They take a slam dunk and bang it off the back of the rim causing 1/2 the audience to groan and the other 1/2 to cheer. Plus, it always makes the highlight reel.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at September 25, 2014 01:30 AM (+Fae7)

411 The Fixx was the first album I ever bought....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 01:27 AM (ojnk6)


First album I bought myself was "...And Justice For All" by Metallica (i.e. before they sold out).

First concert I went to was Iron Maiden's "Fear of the Dark Tour"

First date, she shoplifted a cassette tape of the eponymous "Black Sabbath" album.

Posted by: The First Hat at September 25, 2014 01:31 AM (lN8KC)

412 In a sense, we're both right. You are correct that OJ didn't go to jail for murder, which was wrong. But there was something definitely wrong with him (which would my point regarding D'Souza), that turned out to be the source of a pattern of behavior which caused him to be caught and convicted the second time. If the guilty plea and therapy helps D'Souza avoid that fate, it will actually have worked to his benefit.

Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 01:29 AM (eCKON)


Remember, Nevada did what California couldn't: Put OJ in jail.

Posted by: The Silver Hat at September 25, 2014 01:32 AM (lN8KC)

413 In a sense, we're both right. You are correct that OJ didn't go to jail for murder, which was wrong. But there was something definitely wrong with him (which would my point regarding D'Souza), that turned out to be the source of a pattern of behavior which caused him to be caught and convicted the second time. If the guilty plea and therapy helps D'Souza avoid that fate, it will actually have worked to his benefit.

Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 01:29 AM (eCKON)


I remember when I heard the civil verdict... it was the same night as the "State of the Union" and the networks dropped J. C. Watts' rebuttal...

I had a "La Raza" supremest dorm mate who was cheering at a Black man getting his comeuppance.

Posted by: The Juice Hat at September 25, 2014 01:34 AM (lN8KC)

414 Did I just kill the thread?

Posted by: Four Hats in a Row at September 25, 2014 01:35 AM (lN8KC)

415 My vagina is just a scab with paper sticking out

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 25, 2014 01:35 AM (Ribls)

416 Wherever that Romney 2016 link came from....it's too late. That might have worked before the national treasury was looted of $trillions 16-ways-from-Sunday for the benefit of Dem constituencies. Just as one small illustration -- in a forgotten corner of the Obamacare bill, the Feds took over student loans -- lock, stock, and barrel. And after this, it became embarrassingly easy to take on massive amounts of debt to pursue degrees in Grievance Studies, which -- by their very definition -- can never result in a net economic benefit to the Nation.




We've had six solid years of such looting.....and the time for "nice guys" is over. We need someone like Andrew Jackson, who can say: "I don't care who created this mess or who benefits from it today -- it is an abomination and must stop." I don't believe that Mitt is that guy.




Cruz, Paul, and Walker strike me as possibles -- and, of the three, Walker comes from an executive background. But we need someone who can reverse the abuse we've taken......not perpetuate it.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 01:36 AM (T1005)

417 First concert I went to was Iron Maiden's "Fear of the Dark Tour"

First date, she shoplifted a cassette tape of the eponymous "Black Sabbath" album.
Posted by: The First Hat at September 25, 2014 01:31 AM (lN8KC)

******

First concert was also my first date, ever, at the Rush 2112 show in Chicago. Her name was Angela, and good Lord was she hot. Memories........haven't thought about that in roughly 25 years....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 01:39 AM (ojnk6)

418 My vagina bleeds for the sins of the corporations

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 25, 2014 01:40 AM (Ribls)

419 My "first concert" was in 1988. I took a girl to see "The Outfield" open-up for "Night Ranger".

Laid, I wasn't.

She got the T-shirt.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 01:43 AM (CCBmg)

420 In every way, this is the story of Obama
http://explosm.net/comics/3692/

Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2014 01:44 AM (9422s)

421 "When Katie Couric asked Palin what news sources she reads, Palin should
have just chuckled and said 'Katie, we get the same newspapers and
magazines that you get in New York, this is the 21st century and
technology has made information and news easy to get even in remote
areas'. That answer serves 2 purposes, answers the question and second
it makes Couric look like an ass."

Yes.

And perhaps even asking Couric, "Gee, Katie, have you asked anyone on the Democratic ticket what _they_ read? You haven't? Why not?"

But, after Couric's infamous previous "ambush interview" with G.H.W. Bush, no one on the McCain-Palin campaign staff should have approved anything at all having to do with Couric.

Sorry. Would love to chat. Can't fit it into the schedule.

Note that the single individual who was the most keen to plug Palin in with Couric, Nicolle Wallace, is now on _The View_. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about Wallace, and about how incredibly foolish it was for a campaign to hire Wallace and to take media advice from Wallace.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 25, 2014 01:44 AM (noWW6)

422 Don't tell me a womyn cant get a hardon

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 25, 2014 01:44 AM (Ribls)

423 Maybe the therapy is to help him understand why he is not above the law. His
behavior, both personal and political, does seem to indicate that he
puts himself on something of a special pedestal, which is not really
healthy behavior.
Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 12:55 AM (eCKON)


But wouldn't this apply to everyone who has ever broken the law?

And given how seldom these kind of campaign finance laws are enforced it's actually a rational belief to think that you're unlikely to be caught much less prosecuted.

And note less than ideal behavior is not necessarily the same as pathological behavior that requires psychological treatment. Lots of people fuck up and learn from the consequences of their actions without needing mental help. Now if D'Souza were on his third divorce for the same reasons, then yeah some therapy might be warranted.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 01:44 AM (XkotV)

424 My "first concert" was in 1988. I took a girl to see "The Outfield" open-up for "Night Ranger".

Laid, I wasn't.

She got the T-shirt.
Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 01:43 AM (CCBmg)

****£

OK, KID, get off of my Muthafcuking lawn! My first real date was in 1979.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 01:45 AM (ojnk6)

425 Four Hats in a Row at September 25, 2014 01:35 AM (lN8KC)

So a Tam, a Stetson, a Beret, and a Fedora walk into a bar ...

Posted by: Adriane... at September 25, 2014 01:45 AM (P+IZm)

426 LEOs miss 70-80 percent of the time.

M1 pencil, wait, is that the Time hack who has a 'thing' for Secret Service? Does his performance graphs look like a hockey stick?

Posted by: Yosif the Gardner at September 25, 2014 01:45 AM (KVuC3)

427
"My vagina bleeds for the sins of the corporations."
-Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 25, 2014 01:40 AM (Ribls)

You're going to have that. It is an occupational self-mutilation.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 01:46 AM (CCBmg)

428 Don't tell me a womyn cant get a hardon

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 25, 2014 01:44 AM (Ribls)


Not after we're through with 'em.

Posted by: Clitoridectomies я Us at September 25, 2014 01:46 AM (lN8KC)

429 So a Tam, a Stetson, a Beret, and a Fedora walk into a bar ...

Posted by: Adriane... at September 25, 2014 01:45 AM (P+IZm)


Meh...

Posted by: Ten Inch Pianist at September 25, 2014 01:47 AM (lN8KC)

430 I've never heard of therapy required for breaking campaign finance laws. It certainly does sound like a "Don't you realize Big Brother knows what best for you?" sort of thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2014 01:48 AM (glk59)

431 "OK, KID, get off of my Muthafcuking lawn! My first real date was in 1979."
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 01:45 AM (ojnk6)

Yeah, I get it. You're about as subtle as an asteroid.

I'm still going to mow that lawn. Long-After you're dead.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 01:50 AM (CCBmg)

432 Do the kids still buy "albums"?

Or do they download onto their stylish bendy phones whatever Tim Cook assures them is cool?

I dunno.

Harmonies, baby. It happens every time ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmJg7PpAqxg


Posted by: crank your equalizer, Master Cruise at September 25, 2014 01:50 AM (EORRR)

433 *hisssss!*

...branded.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 01:51 AM (CCBmg)

434 EP 12 of Sabagebu: So, a crab, a duck-billed platypus and a girl with a green belly walk into a bar clubroom with guns...

Posted by: The Duck Billed Hat at September 25, 2014 01:52 AM (lN8KC)

435 I'm still going to mow that lawn. Long-After you're dead.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 01:50 AM (CCBmg)

********

Have at it. While I'm fertilizing said lawn, at least think a random good thought about the nitrates I am providing to the Mother Earth.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 01:53 AM (ojnk6)

436 You may be correct in the political sense, but in an objective sense I believe that any man who sleeps around and gets engaged to Woman #2 while still married to Woman #1 (with whom he has a child) may have some issues that need dealing with.
Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 01:14 AM (eCKON)


Ah so it's not the violation of campaign finance laws - it's the cheating.

Unfortunately bad judgment and yielding to temptation have no entries in the DSM-5.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 01:53 AM (XkotV)

437 Note that the single individual who was the most keen to plug Palin in with Couric, Nicolle Wallace, is now on _The View_. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about Wallace, and about how incredibly foolish it was for a campaign to hire Wallace and to take media advice from Wallace.

That whole campaign was rife with infiltrators.

...or, there is not a dimes worth of difference between the two parties.

I believe we know the latter to be true.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at September 25, 2014 01:53 AM (uJ3rt)

438 Damnit, Hat. You did it wrong.

That's not how this works.

...That's not how any of this works!

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 01:54 AM (CCBmg)

439 We've had six solid years of such looting.....and the time for "nice
guys" is over. We need someone like Andrew Jackson, who can say: "I
don't care who created this mess or who benefits from it today -- it is
an abomination and must stop." I don't believe that Mitt is that guy.


*******************


cthulhu, this is what Mitt did for a living for 30 years. I can't think of anyone better suited. If he's not the nominee, the nominee should appoint a Romney Commission on January 21, 2017 to work for eight years to find programs and people to terminate.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 25, 2014 01:55 AM (t2m1Y)

440 Having a large caliber revolver jammed into one's tight blue jeans seems like a very uncomfortable way to go through life.

Never having lived that way, I could be wrong.

Posted by: Yosif the Gardner at September 25, 2014 01:55 AM (KVuC3)

441 #291

I think if I ever won big in the lottery I'd buy Ace a brace of the finest hamsters on the market.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 25, 2014 01:55 AM (IdCqF)

442 # 435 -Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 25, 2014 01:53 AM (ojnk6)

*salutes*

-Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 01:55 AM (CCBmg)

443 "I think if I ever won big in the lottery I'd buy Ace a brace of the finest hamsters on the market."
-Posted by: Epobirs at September 25, 2014 01:55 AM (IdCqF)

...and I? A satchel of ferrets.

No Greater reward, I say.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 01:58 AM (CCBmg)

444 EP 12 of Sabagebu: So, a crab, a duck-billed platypus and a girl with a green belly walk into a bar clubroom with guns...

Posted by: The Duck Billed Hat at September 25, 2014 01:52 AM (lN8KC)


Their common enemy?

Bureaucrats!

Posted by: The Duck Billed Hat at September 25, 2014 01:58 AM (lN8KC)

445 ...indeed.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 01:59 AM (CCBmg)

446 439
We've had six solid years of such looting.....and the time for "nice

guys" is over. We need someone like Andrew Jackson, who can say: "I

don't care who created this mess or who benefits from it today -- it is

an abomination and must stop." I don't believe that Mitt is that guy.


*******************


cthulhu,
this is what Mitt did for a living for 30 years. I can't think of
anyone better suited. If he's not the nominee, the nominee should
appoint a Romney Commission on January 21, 2017 to work for eight years
to find programs and people to terminate.


Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 25, 2014 01:55 AM (t2m1Y)


The difference is that everyone "that mattered" was FOR Mitt's headchopping. In this case, however, he's still playing nice-nice with the governmental power-centers that be. Mitt's a good man, and I supported him in 2012, but he's not an iconoclast. We need someone who will break the idols.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 02:01 AM (T1005)

447
...branded.

Marked with a coward's shame

Posted by: Fox2! at September 25, 2014 02:02 AM (cHwSy)

448 "Marked with a coward's shame."
-Posted by: Fox2! at September 25, 2014 02:02 AM (cHwSy)

Use your own symbol/marking. Mine is a simple "$".

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:05 AM (CCBmg)

449 "$" = My Cow.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:05 AM (CCBmg)

450 Use your own symbol/marking. Mine is a simple "$".

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:05 AM (CCBmg)


If you insist...

Posted by: The Artist Formerly Known As Prince at September 25, 2014 02:07 AM (lN8KC)

451 Mister Hat!!!

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:08 AM (CCBmg)

452 "Under The Falling Sky" is the best song ever written. For everything else, I'll just have to say ... Nuke Em' !

Posted by: goon at September 25, 2014 02:09 AM (gNTQS)

453 Never trust a Moron with a cattle-prod.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:09 AM (CCBmg)

454 We've had six solid years of such looting.....and the time for "nice
guys" is over. We need someone like Andrew Jackson, who can say: "I
don't care who created this mess or who benefits from it today -- it is
an abomination and must stop."


====
do we also get to see the part where the new Andrew makes everyone in the media walk to Oklahoma?



Thereafter to be forever known as the "trail of useless, asslicking, whining, horrid bitches."

Posted by: jc at September 25, 2014 02:11 AM (iRJ+A)

455 I'm curious enough to "trust" DangerGirl's HiWatt Insanity Prod.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZLkV8ZEboo

Posted by: foolishly-optimistic Moron ... playing that guitar at September 25, 2014 02:13 AM (EORRR)

456 Posted by: jc at September 25, 2014 02:11 AM (iRJ+A)

...we will always have Oklahoma.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:13 AM (CCBmg)

457 ...and Nebraska.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:14 AM (CCBmg)

458 South Carolina RULES!!!

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:15 AM (CCBmg)

459 ...except in college football.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:16 AM (CCBmg)

460 Look for sweet, sweet pointy elbows and forget about the rest.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:18 AM (CCBmg)

461 ...we will always have Oklahoma.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:13 AM (CCBmg)
457 ...and Nebraska.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:14 AM (CCBmg)
458 South Carolina RULES!!!

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:15 AM (CCBmg)


Yeeeaaaahhhh!!1!

Posted by: Howard Dean at September 25, 2014 02:19 AM (lN8KC)

462 454
We've had six solid years of such looting.....and the time for "nice

guys" is over. We need someone like Andrew Jackson, who can say: "I

don't care who created this mess or who benefits from it today -- it is

an abomination and must stop."


====
do we also get to see the part where the new Andrew makes everyone in the media walk to Oklahoma?



Thereafter to be forever known as the "trail of useless, asslicking, whining, horrid bitches."


Posted by: jc at September 25, 2014 02:11 AM (iRJ+A)


I could seriously get behind that. Learning from history, though, the end of that saga s/b unmarked graves.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 25, 2014 02:19 AM (T1005)

463 Actually I would prefer a forced U.S. media march to Guam, but I can't think of any way that would fit an Andy Jackson theme.

Posted by: jc at September 25, 2014 02:22 AM (iRJ+A)

464 I've got a few ideas that don't start in New Orleans.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:23 AM (CCBmg)

465 Are resurrected Ebola victims "walkers" or "biters"?


Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 02:25 AM (MQEz6)

466 The last episode of Sabagebu started with an attack on bureaucrats with guns... and then a duck billed platypus shooting said bureaucrats with a minigun, and ended up with schoolgirl lesbian raep.

Rather tame for a Japanese show...

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 ! WTF at September 25, 2014 02:27 AM (lN8KC)

467 I can't think of any way that would fit an Andy Jackson theme.


Trail of twenties?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 25, 2014 02:28 AM (t2m1Y)

468 Are resurrected Ebola victims "walkers" or "biters"?

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 02:25 AM (MQEz6)


Dancers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psXCWM-agtQ

Posted by: Zombie Michael Jackson at September 25, 2014 02:29 AM (lN8KC)

469 Mitt might make a good Cabinet official, but Prez, no way.

America needs a President who took Office to kick ass and chew gum, and is all out of gum.

A great President can make the collapse and recovery work out a lot better.

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 02:30 AM (MQEz6)

470 America needs a President who took Office to kick ass and chew gum, and is all out of gum.

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 02:30 AM (MQEz6)


I could vaporize George Soros with my laser beam eyes!

Posted by: Zod at September 25, 2014 02:32 AM (lN8KC)

471 America needs a President who took Office to kick ass and chew gum, and is all out of gum.

The first asses he'd have to kick are the gutless pussies known as Republican Congressmen. Let them know that shrinking the government actually means shrinking the government. None of this reducing the rate of growth where the compromise with the Dems is just not as big an increase as they want.

Posted by: buzzion at September 25, 2014 02:38 AM (zt+N6)

472 "A great President can make the collapse and recovery work out a lot better."
-Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 02:30 AM (MQEz6)

A truly great President will leave it up to the States.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 02:38 AM (CCBmg)

473 468
Are resurrected Ebola victims "walkers" or "biters"?



Posted by: eman at September 25, 2014 02:25 AM (MQEz6)



Dancers!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psXCWM-agtQ

Posted by: Zombie Michael Jackson at September 25, 2014 02:29 AM (lN8KC)

========
Mummies !!!!!




http://youtu.be/yB1z2USriZs

Posted by: jc at September 25, 2014 02:38 AM (iRJ+A)

474 Ah so it's not the violation of campaign finance laws - it's the cheating.

Unfortunately bad judgment and yielding to temptation have no entries in the DSM-5.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 01:53 AM (XkotV)


Not exactly. What I believe I was saying was that it was the two separate infractions, taken together, that could indicate there was a problem that therapy might help. As far as the DSM-5 is concerned, I would suggest that you wouldn't have to look much further than Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Also, it helps to remember that this judge actually let him off easy. He did not get the prison sentence that the prosecutor was asking for. It may be, in fact, that had he gone to prison he would have gotten exactly the same sort of counseling, just in a less congenial environment. And it wouldn't have had anything to do with "re-education camps" or treating his politics as a disease.

Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 02:46 AM (eCKON)

475 Ah so it's not the violation of campaign finance laws - it's the cheating.

Unfortunately bad judgment and yielding to temptation have no entries in the DSM-5.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 01:53 AM (XkotV)

Not exactly. What I believe I was saying was that it was the two separate infractions, taken together, that could indicate there was a problem that therapy might help. As far as the DSM-5 is concerned, I would suggest that you wouldn't have to look much further than Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Also, it helps to remember that this judge actually let him off easy. He did not get the prison sentence that the prosecutor was asking for. It may be, in fact, that had he gone to prison he would have gotten exactly the same sort of counseling, just in a less congenial environment. And it wouldn't have had anything to do with "re-education camps" or treating his politics as a disease.


Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 02:46 AM (eCKON)


It is not a question of what he did or did not do.

It is a question of the punishment being "unusual"... at least as far as the common law is concerned...

Posted by: The Eighth Hat of Amendment at September 25, 2014 02:50 AM (lN8KC)

476
cthulhu: For your files, if you're still around.

Machinery (mills, lathes, etc.) are usually made from cast iron, partly because it can be cast into complex forms very economically, partly because it has good wear properties (like for ways), and also because it is easy to stress-relieve ... meaning it will expand due to temperature changes, as all metals do, but it is unlikely to twist or warp. This is very important, when things like flatness, parallelism and such are needed. Getting a welded steel structure to NOT warp, twist, etc., due to temperature changes is much tougher. It can be done, but it costs money. And then heat-treated steel ... the act of heat-treating frequently induces warping. If the end result is then to be annealed, there's no point in using heat-treatable steel. Stainless shows little or no advantage over cast iron given that the assembly is normally covered in oil.

I recently saw a mill, about the same size as the one you have, but the column, base and table were made of granite ... finished as you might expect. The base model was about $15k.

I also ran across a link (Practical Machinist, IIRC) comparing light mills. Yours is rated a Best Buy, partly because there is enough quality, partly because there is plenty of inexpensive tooling for it, partly because with a bit of work it can be CNC'd (and cheaply ... and it will cut steel plate - see YouTube) ... , but mainly for the price.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 25, 2014 03:06 AM (FlRtG)

477 It is a question of the punishment being "unusual"... at least as far as the common law is concerned...

Posted by: The Eighth Hat of Amendment at September 25, 2014 02:50 AM (lN8KC)

====I estimate the probability of an eventual Nurse Rached to be 1. I'd set the over/under on the emergence of Rached at 2 years 4 months.

Posted by: jc at September 25, 2014 03:08 AM (iRJ+A)

478 G'Night, Evry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 25, 2014 03:25 AM (CCBmg)

479 Not exactly. What I believe I was saying was that it was the two separate infractions, taken together, that could indicate there was a problem that therapy might help. As far as the DSM-5 is concerned, I would suggest that you wouldn't have to look much further than Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Also, it helps to remember that this judge actually let him off easy. He did not get the prison sentence that the prosecutor was asking for. It may be, in fact, that had he gone to prison he would have gotten exactly the same sort of counseling, just in a less congenial environment. And it wouldn't have had anything to do with "re-education camps" or treating his politics as a disease.
Posted by: CQD at September 25, 2014 02:46 AM (eCKON)


Eh. So far I haven't seen anything that suggests NPD. Sadly his behavior is well within normal human bounds. And there's no need to pathologize normal human misbehavior.

And IMO it would been ludicrous for him to have gotten *any* prison time given the small amounts of money and it being his first offense. The real question is whether people convicted of similar offenses were also required to get therapy. My suspicion is that they were not.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 25, 2014 03:31 AM (XkotV)

480 Let's see...
First concert- Iron Maiden "Powerslave" tour in '84 at the Long Beach Arena- they were recording that night for their live album.
First album- "The Empire Strikes Back" soundtrack.
First album by a band- "Rebel Yell" by Billy Idol.
Berlin- saw them at the Hollywood Palladium on their "Count Three and Pray" tour. Teri Nunn was quit attractive.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 25, 2014 04:26 AM (KlVdw)

481 Has anybody said "poop" yet? There, I said it. And furthermore, my bully-dog Molly-pog sez woo-woo-woo.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 25, 2014 04:58 AM (PYbUb)

482 I just bought about $300 worth of Bob Dylan music on Amazon. Almost half of that was pre-ordering the 6 CD "Complete Basement Tapes" with The Band which will be released in November.

Then I got the 4 CD "Another Self-Portrait" which has been out since last year.

I added the 1964 and 1975 live sets, each 2 discs, which have been out for many years but which I inexplicably never got around to buying.

I finally rounded it off with the 3 disc "Bootleg Series Vol. 1-3" collection of unreleased recordings and outtakes, which was released in 1991 and which I have on vinyl, but since I don't have a turntable hooked up, I haven't heard in years.

Then after I placed my order, I noticed the DVD set of his appearances at the Newport Folk Festival in 1963, 64, and 65. And the 2 DVD version of the 1965 documentary "Don't Look Back" which contains a whole disc of outtakes from that movie. *groan*

I'll leave you with his 1969 recording of "Pretty Saro", which is from the "Another Self-Portrait" collection. This was when everybody else was dropping acid, protesting, and going to Woodstock. Meanwhile Bob was exploring traditional folk and country music. No wonder he had fans and critics alike scratching their heads in bewilderment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSdVOEKW5YA

There are some great photos at that link, too.

Posted by: rickl at September 25, 2014 05:10 AM (sdi6R)

483 Night all.

Here is "30/30-150" by Stone Sour:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJzE1m9aELk

Posted by: The Stone Hat at September 25, 2014 05:48 AM (lN8KC)

484 Where's Gabe?

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:13 AM (T2V/1)

485 crickets....

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at September 25, 2014 07:13 AM (X3xYu)

486 Rough night in DC I guess Vic.

Had enough of the rain?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at September 25, 2014 07:14 AM (YTKyk)

487 Wake up, sleepy heads.

Posted by: fluffy at September 25, 2014 07:15 AM (Ua6T/)

488 It happens every time I have some place to go or something to do in the morning Gabe is late.

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:15 AM (T2V/1)

489 Of course Vic, Gabe may have been up late working on his post for the Federalist.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at September 25, 2014 07:16 AM (YTKyk)

490 Hah!

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:17 AM (T2V/1)

491 484 Where's Gabe?
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:13 AM (T2V/1)

Ungrateful loaves of bread generally aren't early risers.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 25, 2014 07:21 AM (mx5oN)

492 Ungrateful loaves of bread generally aren't early risers.

They get stale early?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2014 07:22 AM (BlEnL)

493 479 -

Wow, Narcissistic Personality Disorder? For D'Souza? That's a remarkable stretch, even by internet psychiatric diagnostic standards.

Where did you find this CQD fellow?

Likely an psych major at a middling university. Sophomore.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2014 07:23 AM (Dj0WE)

494 Fine... so suddenly I killed the blog?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2014 07:30 AM (Dj0WE)

495 I am going to go take care of a few things and will be back shortly to post the morning links.

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:33 AM (T2V/1)

496 I'm going to work, and I'm taking Port 1080 with me, so don't bother being nice to me now. It won't make any difference... in your life or mine.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2014 07:35 AM (Dj0WE)

497 I'm back still no morning thread. maybe NDH can step in

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:39 AM (T2V/1)

498 I would hate to have wasted 3.5 hours this morning putting together 9 pages of links.

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:40 AM (T2V/1)

499 I am going to post the links here beginning at the post after this one. If they ever get a thread up will someone give a link to start of these?

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:45 AM (T2V/1)

500 Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, September 25, 2014. On this day in 1789 Congress adopted the first 12 amendments to the Constitution and sent them to the States for ratification. There had been a huge debate about the need for a bill of rights when writing the Constitution. Many felt that by having those people would get the idea that they were the only "rights" they had and the intent of the Constitution was to give the federal government a limited set of powers only with the States and the people retaining the rest. As it turned out the BOR was certainly needed but boy did the SC screw them up over time.

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:46 AM (T2V/1)

501 Supposedly the US and the Saudis are targeting modular oil refineries that ISIS is using to fuel their vehicles.


http://is.gd/9kFNw2

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:46 AM (T2V/1)

502 Meanwhile our long time allies the Kurds are begging for help and the choom is ignoring them. Maybe he is afraid of pissing off our "ally" Turkey who has been taken over by radical muzzies and really isn't our ally anymore.


http://is.gd/3kQd0A

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:46 AM (T2V/1)

503 Fuck this shit! I'm gonna get me an 80% lower.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at September 25, 2014 07:47 AM (ecN6u)

504 Israel is recruiting agents for the Mossad.


http://is.gd/Bvnbi5

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:47 AM (T2V/1)

505 This one is major someone should post it to the thread.


The ATF sure has a LOT of power lately that congress did not give them. Now they want people's race and ethnicity on the forms. But this little statement is a real indicator of what they have been doing and want to step up.


Sen Roy Blunt, R-Mo., sent a letter to ATF Director Todd Jones asking why the information was being collected and whether the data had ever been used to restrict someone's ability to purchase a firearm.


"What does that possibly have to do with whether you would pass the background check for a firearm or not?" Blunt asked."


In a response to Blunt, the ATF said Wednesday it has been collecting some type of race information on Form 4473 since 1968, but that it has never compiled or maintained it in any database.



So they are now going to put all the form 4473 stuff in an ATF database. Those forms and the data were never supposed to be kept beyond a certain time frame. And the data on them were never supposed to be collected by the ATF at all. When the gun control bullshit was passed people were rightfully scared that the government would want to make a gun registry. The proponents of this unconstitutional law said oh no we would never do that. We will protect the forms, the dealers will be the only ones who see them then they will be destroyed after a period of time. Well guess what people; the ATF is illegally creating a federal gun registry now. And I notice that Shannon Bream did not even pick up on this, or she decided not to say anything about it.


Read this entire article, and I would assume that the MFM will ignore this story. Read the entire article.


http://is.gd/tJf6fn

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:47 AM (T2V/1)

506 The beleaguered taxpayers of CA will be held accountable for that policeman who repeatedly punched a woman in the face. But in this case the cop has been on "paid administrative leave" since 2012 and part of the settlement is he will resign. I'm sure the union will get him a nice exit package, which the taxpayers will also foot the bill for.


http://is.gd/KP6Now

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:48 AM (T2V/1)

507 China tells the UN and Obama to stick their global warming package up their ass. What is their beef? They sure don't mention that the whole thing is a scam. They want a f_ck-ton of money. The $100B promised to 3rd world nations is not enough and is a starting point they say. The whole thing is a fraud to implement a global tax on developed countries, mainly the US, to feed to 3rd world shit holes where it will wind up in some "leader for life's" Geneva bank account. They also want to suspend patents on Western stuff so they can get it free. And I will lay money on Obama's intent to give it to them. And since this will be a treaty, which was originally defeated 98-0, the current Senate will approve it.


http://is.gd/d0aJ5o

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:48 AM (T2V/1)

508 A NY school has banned National Guard T-shirts because it has a picture of a soldier with an "evil" gun. Long past due to eliminate all public schools.


http://is.gd/A1Xc7s

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:48 AM (T2V/1)

509 And on the score of banning stuff, a TX school had removed 7 books from the "required reading list" on complaints from some parents that they had graphic sex scenes in them. Well other parents now are pissed because they called this banning books. Obviously it is not. The books will still be in the school library if students want to read them on their own. Remember, we are talking about adolescent boys here hearing about graphic sex scenes. They will raid those shelves and skim the books looking for those scenes. I am not sure I have a problem with that, I was reading the James Bond books and Heinlein at that age. Both of those authors put graphic sex scenes in their books as well. But, I also agree with the other side. They should not be "required reading".


http://is.gd/AK1lt2

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:49 AM (T2V/1)

510 A federal judge in WI has remove one barrier to restarting the illegal witch-hunt probes by union backed DA's. He said the federal courts were not the right place to be pursuing the matter. State courts are still blocking them by refusing subpoenas. In truth, the people involved in this should be prosecuted and sent to the greybar hotel for an ass pounding.


http://is.gd/1eL7sb

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:49 AM (T2V/1)

511 A black man was waving an air rifle around in an OH Wal-Mart so police were called and told a man was waving a rifle around in the store. They responded and order the man to put the rifle down. He did not. The police shot and killed him. He was black, the cops were white so guess where this is going. The grand jury refused a true bill so no indictment. Holder's corrupt DOJ said they will "investigate".


http://is.gd/WqI3CD

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:49 AM (T2V/1)

512 The RINOs are descending on KS to help Pat Roberts who now appears to be in trouble after the KS judge illegally allowed the removal of the Democrat from the ballot leaving the fake independent. The question is, will this herd of RINOs help or hinder his campaign. Roberts is no raging conservative either with an ACU rating for the last 2 years at 84/72 but the control of the Senate is at stake. So once again we have the Democrats cheating in an election and the liberal courts are supporting it.


http://is.gd/VBbnyU

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:50 AM (T2V/1)

513 An obscure author in Peru is suing Disney for $250M claiming copyright infringement for the movie frozen. Disney claims the story was based on a Hans Christian Anderson story. I haven't scene the movie so I can't say, but I would tend to support Disney. This looks like a pure money grab to me. The other thing is damages. Why does this person think she can get $250M damages for a book that nobody ever heard of?


http://is.gd/DuTzCK

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:50 AM (T2V/1)

514 There is a new device out there that can be installed on cars that allows a "lender" to shut down the vehicle if you get just a few days behind on your payments. In this case a woman in Las Vegas was 3 days behind and they shut her car down. The article says these devices have been installed on 2M cars nationwide. What if she had been driving the car when they shut it down? One car was killed while at a stoplight. I would think the NTSB would need to get involved with this since it is a hazard and it crosses State lines. This shit needs to go


http://is.gd/M1Se81

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:50 AM (T2V/1)

515 Hahahhaha; irony. The Forestry Service is now going after the media. They may not have cattle to confiscate but they will soon have to get a "permit" to go into the wilderness to film or take photographs. And I am sure they would never" make this apply to the general public <snarc>. This administration has gone completely power mad. They claim the Wilderness Act of 1964 allows this. Just off the top of my head and knowing how corrupt these federal agencies are now I would probably throw the BS flag on that.


http://is.gd/haKFyh

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:50 AM (T2V/1)

516 WaPO shitting on Obama? Yes when his goons interfere with their coverage. Imagine if Bush had done this. Nixon never has an inkling of the corruption he could do if he was a black Democrat.


Journalists who cover the White House say Obama's press aides have demanded, and received, changes in press-pool reports before the reports have been disseminated to other journalists. They say the White House has used its unusual role as the distributor of the reports as leverage to steer coverage in a more favorable direction.


Question is, why are they not suing under the first amendment? I'm sure that if this was Bush it would be in court already with 24/7 coverage.


http://is.gd/KXIdnH

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:51 AM (T2V/1)

517 And Obama is not alone. Scankles' campaign team is even following reporters to the bathroom and waiting outside the stalls. I hope the liberal press likes the shit sandwich they helped create.


http://is.gd/pA9ab9

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:51 AM (T2V/1)

518 Roll Call says control of the Senate is down to 5 States.


http://is.gd/5eALQk

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:52 AM (T2V/1)

519 Holy shit! The Fascists in Seattle have passed a law making it illegal and subject to fines if you throw away "too much" food. I know, got to help those starving kids in China. The fines are very low; for now. Wait until they are jacked up to become a revenue source.


http://is.gd/6gxeQt

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:52 AM (T2V/1)

520 The WaTi was never a big fan of Obama, but they generally supported him. They are pretty much in agreement with me that his speech at the UN was crap. (note: I did not listen to it but I have seen excerpts).


President Obama on Wednesday delivered a speech at the United Nations filled with his usual soaring rhetoric of global collectivism and the importance of international norms. But the president also displayed a shocking naivete about global affairs, religion, Islam, a Pollyannaish interpretation on the state of the world and America's role in it.


IOW, it was the usual Obama crap.


http://is.gd/yyrHg1

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:52 AM (T2V/1)

521 Puty Poot is rattling his saber at the Baltic countries now. Would he do this if RR was still President? Hell no, they were scared to death of RR.


http://is.gd/XPGfMl

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:53 AM (T2V/1)

522 Remember all those illegal DNA swabs the feds were taking? Well the feds intend to put them in a database. George Orwell was a piker.


http://is.gd/5EQhQK

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:53 AM (T2V/1)

523 Corrupt and unindicted felon Holder will back a local lawsuit against NY by the ACLU that claims poor plaintiffs are getting inadequate legal defense from court appointed lawyers. If the ACLU wins this case it could have nationwide ramifications for local taxpayers. And what give Holder the authority to get involved in local lawsuits? Nothing but a feckless congress who has failed to impeach him.


http://is.gd/RQMBzw

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:53 AM (T2V/1)

524 The grand jury has refused a true bill (no indictment) for Tony Stewart in the accident that killed Kevin Ward. BION Ward was high on marijuana when he stepped out on the track.


http://is.gd/Pqk2YK

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:54 AM (T2V/1)

525 Recall the post I did about the Libertarian candidate who called the woman a moron. Well it turns out he really is a loon. How about it all you NC Morons, is the media there covering this kind of statement by this idiot who should be locked up in a rubber room? My guess is probably not since he is a spoiler there to help Hagan.


http://is.gd/dyWzFn

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:54 AM (T2V/1)

526 Victims of the Home Depot attack are having their accounts drained. So if you have bought anything at Home Depot with a credit card or especially a debit card, get your account stuff changed ASAP. Remember, with a debit card there is no $50 limit on your liability.


http://is.gd/8nzbVj

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:54 AM (T2V/1)

527 Liberals at FSU have their panties in a wad after the school board voted to appoint Republican Rick Scott as the next President.


http://is.gd/q5SnQQ

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:54 AM (T2V/1)

528 The Unconstitutional Dodd-Frank financial board is collecting YOUR data and storing it with little or no security.


http://is.gd/DzekdA

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:55 AM (T2V/1)

529 Here's another case Holder will probably get involved with. A car thief was shot in a convenience store by police (no details). A local black commissioner is blaming the storeowner and is leading a march on the store.


http://is.gd/8uUahh

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:55 AM (T2V/1)

530 After the UK outlawed virtually all guns they have become the most violent country in Europe. Eat that gun control Nazis.


http://is.gd/CE7Xor

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:55 AM (T2V/1)

531 Politico to insure no "Vetting" of Scankles is done for 2016. Obama all over again.


http://is.gd/lokhA8

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:56 AM (T2V/1)

532 Ramirez


http://is.gd/SKd0L6

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:56 AM (T2V/1)

533 IBD doesn't think too much of Obama's UN speech either.


http://is.gd/cnzdQR

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:56 AM (T2V/1)

534 President Obama on Wednesday delivered a speech at the United Nations filled with his usual soaring rhetoric of global collectivism and the importance of international norms. But the president also displayed a shocking naivete about global affairs, religion, Islam, a Pollyannaish interpretation on the state of the world and America's role in it.


IOW, it was the usual Obama crap.


http://is.gd/yyrHg1

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:52 AM (T2V/1)

-------


He reads what we tell him to read
He does what we tell him to do

What more could a puppet master ask for?

Posted by: ValJar, America's first Communist-Rodent-Human Hybrid POTUS at September 25, 2014 07:57 AM (hauZ0)

535 The Obama attack on ISIS is being done with weapon systems that he is scrapping with no replacement.


http://is.gd/AHmi0J

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:57 AM (T2V/1)

536 The Daily Deals


http://is.gd/AXqVkg


That's it for today folks. Note: I skipped the print news this morning because I was already up to 9 pages. And I will be hitting the rocking chair.

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 07:57 AM (T2V/1)

537 Thanks Vic.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at September 25, 2014 07:59 AM (ecN6u)

538 Thanks Vic- you are on fire today

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at September 25, 2014 08:01 AM (X3xYu)

539 You don't hear people bitching and moaning about all the cctv cameras anymore. I guess they just got use to it.

Posted by: The Progs at September 25, 2014 08:03 AM (iQIUe)

540 How much can this "Visa Black" card be paying Ace? It has been just about every ad for days. These people are relentless.

Posted by: jwest at September 25, 2014 08:03 AM (u2a4R)

541 537
Thanks Vic.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at September 25, 2014 07:59 AM (ecN6u)

538
Thanks Vic- you are on fire today

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at September 25, 2014 08:01 AM (X3xYu)

Y'all are welcome. and I am off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of bourbon.

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 08:05 AM (T2V/1)

542 Victims of the Home Depot attack are
having their accounts drained. So if you have
bought anything at Home Depot with a credit
card or especially a debit card, get your
account stuff changed ASAP . Remember, with
a debit card there is no $50 limit on your
liability.




They looked at mine, felt sorry, and deposited some money.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2014 08:05 AM (Bhzff)

543 PS make sure someone tells the rest of the morons the links begin at 500 here on the ONT.

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2014 08:06 AM (T2V/1)

544 Will do .

Posted by: Hanoverfist at September 25, 2014 08:09 AM (ecN6u)

545 Bad news ... Flying commercial. Good news ... Drink tickets.

I do not always fly coach, but when I do, I fly buzzed. Stay liquored my friends.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 25, 2014 08:10 AM (NsEJ4)

546 Dump up.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at September 25, 2014 08:11 AM (ecN6u)

547 They looked at mine, felt sorry, and deposited some money.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2014 08:05 AM (Bhzff)


I wish. The bank sent me the notification yesterday, that they're changing out my debit card (great!) and that my current card is shut off as of today (fuuuuuhk.....). Oh well...c'mon, Post Office!

I know, I know.....

I believe there was some shenanigans on my account for about $550 bucks. Not sure yet. At least they are very proactive, which is all you can really ask for.

Sadly, I now have to go to the County Accessor and do a tap dance and try to get the interest and fines waived because the second half is now late.

Fucking wonderful world nowadays...

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at September 25, 2014 08:21 AM (7w08q)

548 I need to choke a bitch.

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at September 25, 2014 08:25 AM (gfB4n)

549 That's nothing compared to a '57 Chevy.

http://tinyurl.com/kvxvhup

That's not a 57 Chevy. It's a 55.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 25, 2014 08:32 AM (TPimP)

550 "And what was D'Souza's great depraved crime that requires on-going mental re-adjustment?"

Back up. Dinesh D'Souza is the one committing felonies and then begging to be spared the prison term specified by the legislature. He wasn't -required- to do anything but go to prison. He wasn't required to accept the deal; he could have told the judge he wouldn't do the counseling, so there. Somehow he feels that being locked up with a toilet and a criminal for a roommate is worse than describing his feelings on an outpatient basis. If he can make that choice I'll abide it. The Soviet dissents you mentioned had no choice about being incarcerated and poisoned with mood-altering drugs.

If you're going to start arguing that equal justice starts with the other team, and your boys deserve a break until Democrats start getting prosecuted as often, you're a Republican Al Sharpton.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at September 25, 2014 12:24 PM (pYEaj)

551 Is the U.S. Forest Service moving toward this Parks Canada proposal?
http://tinyurl.com/k5y5nyy

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