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Hoyer: Expiration of Bush Tax Cuts = "Republican Tax Increase"

Desperation Never Reeked So Sweetly

Steny talks tough to defend Americans from those wicked tax lovin' Republicans:

“We have no intention of allowing the Republican tax increase — that their policies would lead to — to go into effect for working Americans. Period,” he said. “We’re going to act and make sure that the Republican phase out and increase in taxes does not end as they provided for in the laws they passed.”

Catch that, puddin' slurping rethuglikkkan scum? Your evil plan to increase taxes will not succeed as long as Steny 'Fiscal Hawk' Hoyer is standing in your way.
Yes, they really think you are this stupid.

UPDATE FROM COMMENTS:

53 I think NOW would be a good time to remind people that the ONLY reason those tax cuts are sunsetting is because Democrats filibustered making them permanent in the first place.

Republicans had to pass the tax cuts through reconciliation as a budget measure which means that they had to sunset per the rules of reconciliation because Democrats refused to even make them IN THE FIRST PLACE.

So yeah, let's TALK about the sunsetting of those tax cuts. I, for one, WELCOME, the discussion.

Posted by: Jim B at July 30, 2010 11:49 AM (6pO2h)

Also, Steny Hoyer, just last month:

WASHINGTON (AP) - House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said Tuesday that tax increases will eventually be necessary to address the nation's mounting debt, [emph. me, -ed.] raising a difficult election-year issue as Democrats fight retain control of Congress.
In the shorter term, Hoyer raised the possibility that Congress will only temporarily extend middle-class tax cuts set to expire at the end of the year. He pointedly suggested that making them permanent would be too costly.

Thanks to Kratos.

Posted by: Laura. at 11:27 AM




Comments

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1
you may commence commenting

Posted by: Boner McSteele at July 30, 2010 11:28 AM (uFokq)

2 We’re going to act and make sure that the Republican phase out and
increase in taxes does not end as they provided for in the laws they
passed.

Holy Diagram that sentence, Batman.

Posted by: lorien1973 at July 30, 2010 11:28 AM (IhQuA)

3 So cutting taxes years ago was just an evil plot to raise them now?

Posted by: nickless at July 30, 2010 11:29 AM (MMC8r)

4 I'l spin your right round, baby, right round...like a record baby, right round, round, round. I'll spin your right round baby, right round.

Posted by: Steny Hoyner at July 30, 2010 11:29 AM (OWjjx)

5
Next year the Democrats will be telling us how they're gonna repeal the Republican's Health Care Reform bill.

Posted by: Boner McSteele at July 30, 2010 11:29 AM (uFokq)

6 Breaking: MSNBC to start running news crawl "Hoyner vows to defeat Republican efforts to raise taxes" in 5, 4, 3, 2,.......

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 11:30 AM (OWjjx)

7 Damn, you could satisfy DC's power requirements for a year by harnessing all that spin.

Posted by: joncelli at July 30, 2010 11:31 AM (RD7QR)

8
"You may call a cat a fish, but it will not swim."
~ Shih Tzu

Posted by: Boner McSteele at July 30, 2010 11:31 AM (uFokq)

9 http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Steny_Hoyer.htm#Tax_Reform

Voted NO on making the Bush tax cuts permanent. (Apr 2002)

Voted NO on Tax cut package of $958 B over 10 years. (May 2001)

Posted by: lorien1973 at July 30, 2010 11:31 AM (IhQuA)

10 In other news, conservatives are pro racism and must be stopped.

Posted by: dum blond at July 30, 2010 11:32 AM (gbCNS)

11 HAHAHHAHA
He's kind right, the Republicans should have made them permanent

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 11:33 AM (wuv1c)

12 See, they're really saving you money, because if they didn't confiscate it from you, you'd just go out and blow it on food, clothes, houses, gas and other frivolities. So, they're doing you a favor, really, and shouldn't they get a taste for working so hard on your behalf?

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2010 11:33 AM (YXmuI)

13 It's a shame they don't allow certain personal responses on the floor because someone needs to question this loser's character as man and challenge him to discuss his comments in private.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2010 11:35 AM (UMZ1R)

14 Must be getting old/forgetful. I could have sworn it was the Dims that insisted on an expiration date for the Bush Tax Cuts. Earlier this year, I guess I falsely remembered, the Dims were claiming that letting the tax cuts expire would not be a tax increase.
OK. Pass the Aricept.

Posted by: MDr at July 30, 2010 11:35 AM (ucq49)

15
Desperation. Pure and simple.

The lies, can you feel 'em.

For years the democrats have railed against the evil "Bush tax cuts".

The same Bush across the board rate cuts that helped boost the economy.
What killed the economy? Fannie and Freddie and Chris Dodd and Barney Frank and the Clinton policies that came to fruition.

Now the democrats are desperate to raise taxes. As we know, the democrats eat, shit, fuck and wet dream about raising taxes. They already have with ObamaCare, which is a huge tax increase. Making sure the Bush tax cuts expire was/is their first order of business.
They will do it, but now the democrats know they have to layer a huge load of lies on top.






Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 30, 2010 11:35 AM (0fzsA)

16
BTW - Andrew Sullivan is using this line of deception as well.




Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 30, 2010 11:36 AM (0fzsA)

17 Spin right round, Hoyer.

But what were you saying just a month ago? That making the Bush tax cuts would be...

Hoyer: Permanent middle class tax cuts too costly

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 30, 2010 11:37 AM (9hSKh)

18 I think it would take several bottles of whisky to begin to understand 'Baghdad' Bob Gibbs. It's the only way I could possibly spin fast enough to keep up.

Posted by: brian at July 30, 2010 11:37 AM (y05cf)

19
Hey asshole moderate Republicans,

see how your Democrat "friends" repay for voting with them?

Posted by: Boner McSteele at July 30, 2010 11:38 AM (uFokq)

20 So cutting taxes years ago was just an evil plot to raise them now?
Heh! Later in the same article they want to still raise taxes on the 'wealthy:'
<blockquote>According to the Associated Press, Senate Finance Committee Democrats proposed last week to allow the Bush tax cuts for the “wealthy to expire next year while permanently extending the middle-class tax cuts.” </blockquote>
Wait, wait, WAIT.
I thought that whole thing was just all tax cuts for the wealthy?? That's what they said when Bush cut taxes in the first place.
It must be so nice to be Democrat, and be able to rewrite history at will with no one in the presscalling you on it.

Posted by: lauraw at July 30, 2010 11:38 AM (quCmU)

21 This is what happens when political panic push polls (Hi, Spiro!!!) are used in an election year.

Call it the Hail Mary With No Shame maneuver.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 30, 2010 11:38 AM (NvFZs)

22 Either Hoyer is that fucking stupid, or he thinks we are.

Posted by: GarandFan at July 30, 2010 11:39 AM (XaWFq)

23 Some comments by politicians are so stupid and yes, evil, that they should come with a fair trial, conviction, lengthy appeal process, and thenexecution by hanging.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2010 11:39 AM (Zj8fM)

24 “We have no intention of allowing the Republican tax increase — that their policies would lead to — to go into effect for working Americans. Period,” he said. “We’re going to act and make sure that the Republican phase out and increase in taxes does not end as they provided for in the laws they passed.”

And I swear to you that we will not allow the evil Rethuglicans to carry forward with their plan. We will ensure that the chocolate ration for all working class Americans is increased from 12 to 10 grams.

Posted by: Rep Hoyer (D-the face cage) at July 30, 2010 11:39 AM (R2fpr)

25
Think we'll ever hear Snowe or Collins call these lying Democrats on their bullshit?

Posted by: Boner McSteele at July 30, 2010 11:39 AM (uFokq)

26 OT but I just read something very interesting on the NRO Corner that I was not aware of.CS Lewis and Aldous Huxley died on the same day as JFK.

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2010 11:40 AM (xDFPB)

27 We're going to not un stop the de-increase in raising tax cut revenue de-enhancement by nega-lowering the retro-fore-increase into the un-dis-backloaded non-non-laffer-dysoptimal pre-post-increase levels.

Also: Boooooooooooosh!

Posted by: Farmer Steny at July 30, 2010 11:40 AM (z4es9)

28 Jebus, Beck just said that the wait time for an appointment to renounce your American citizenship in Great Britain is 2012! I "scroogled" it and got a whole page of results. Beck said millionaires have told him they know if they want to have anything left after Zero they need to get their money into a bank in Singapore or India. Sounds like some are opting for Canada. If you check any of the Scroogle.org (they don't track your queries like G-o-o-g-l-e does) results, they say that renunciation of citizenship is a prime indication of a fascist state.
http://mises.org/daily/4316

Posted by: RushBabe at July 30, 2010 11:40 AM (a3Z62)

29 Yes, they really think you are this stupid.

And for 52% of the population, they are right.


Posted by: wiserbud at July 30, 2010 11:41 AM (EW49d)

30 22
Either Hoyer is that fucking stupid, or he thinks we are.

Why does it have to be an either/or?


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 30, 2010 11:41 AM (9hSKh)

31 He's kind right, the Republicans should have made them permanent

They tried. They didn't have the votes.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2010 11:41 AM (p05LM)

32 Hoyer must by now have his head so far up his ass that ke can taste Barney Fwank's prostate.
The Dems' thing about the "Contract on America" (saw it via one of Breitbart's sites) is proof positive that the Dems are just about running out of shit to shit their pants with.
Note to Andy Sullivan: no, my referring to shit and mens' asses is not an invitation for you to call me.

Posted by: Ira at July 30, 2010 11:42 AM (bJm7W)

33 You really can lie about anything you wish as long as the press is on your side.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 11:42 AM (oIp16)

34 Anyone checked Orwell's grave lately? I think we could solve many of the world's energy problems by wrapping it in copper wiring and running a current through it.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 30, 2010 11:43 AM (olRjO)

35 Did I ever tell you that I have no shame?

Well, I have no shame.

Posted by: Steny Hoyer at July 30, 2010 11:44 AM (swuwV)

36 This fall, we will run on a promise to repeal the unpopular Republican Health Care reform that they forced on the American people! And we will win!

Posted by: Steny Hoyer at July 30, 2010 11:44 AM (+39HX)

37 RushBabe I don't want those losers either. I hope they choke on their money.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2010 11:45 AM (2mIrh)

38 You really can lie about anything you wish as long as the press is on your side.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego

This. This colors everything that Republicans do or say. This prism has been the catalyst for I dunno know how many knockdown drag-out fights here. It effects elections and executive decision making at every level. Mt fear is that it is promoting decay, that will be cumulative.

Posted by: Rep Hoyer (D-the face cage) at July 30, 2010 11:45 AM (R2fpr)

39 I called this over a month ago. Blame Bush for the tax increase. Tried and true, and the media will do their part by sinking down the memory hole 8 years of 'we can't afford the Bush tax cuts, especially during 2 wars' nonsense that Dems have been shrieking.

Posted by: Schwalbe at July 30, 2010 11:45 AM (UU0OF)

40 The sad thing is that it will probably work for a large number of people.

Posted by: McLovin at July 30, 2010 11:46 AM (j0IcY)

41 Did I ever tell you that I have no shame?Well, I have no shame.
Posted by: Steny Hoyer

The 'D' after your name clued us in.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 11:46 AM (R2fpr)

42 "There are some who believe that the world is round and others who believe it to be flat. But if it is indeed flat will the King's proclamation make it round, and if it is indeed round, will the King's words flatten it?" - St. Thomas More

Hoyer is proof positive that Democrats are "reality challenged".

Posted by: Mel Gibson at July 30, 2010 11:46 AM (OtQXp)

43 D*mn sock...

Posted by: Nighhawk at July 30, 2010 11:47 AM (OtQXp)

44 Laura, you don't get it. Their bullshit is really that gooood.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 11:47 AM (vVQq7)

45
But what were you saying just a month ago? That making the Bush tax cuts would be...
Hoyer: Permanent middle class tax cuts too costly

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta

Oho. Update time.
The truth, it's inconvenient.



Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 30, 2010 11:47 AM (0fzsA)

46 or in other words (I've glanced at the link), Hoyer is blaming President McKinley for preventing the Federal Reserve from preventing the 1929 stock market crash.

Posted by: Ira at July 30, 2010 11:47 AM (bJm7W)

47 2
We’re going to act and make sure that
the Republican phase out and
increase in taxes does not end as they provided for in the laws they
passed.Holy Diagram that sentence, Batman.

When they figure out the talking points, they don't figure out the grammar at the same time.

Besides, they aren't trying to persuade anymore, they're just telling the troops that "all is well" and the troops will believe the sweet, sweet lies. I don't think this one will even be picked up by the trolls though.

It is really astounding how unburdened liberals are with any sense of propriety.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 30, 2010 11:48 AM (PDN1L)

48 they say that renunciation of citizenship is a prime indication of a fascist state.

"If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 30, 2010 11:48 AM (0q2P7)

49 Way to go, Maryland. Way to go.

Posted by: shillelagh at July 30, 2010 11:49 AM (Oz4Bj)

50 CS Lewis and Aldous Huxley died on the same day as JFK.

It's a shame about C.S. Lewis. It really sucks to accidentally leave something needed on the curb on trash day.

Posted by: MikeO at July 30, 2010 11:49 AM (lBmZl)

51


Bush cut taxes. Democrats want to raise them.

Hey Steny - We dare you to expend the Bush tax cuts. All. of. Them.


Come on Steny, you snake-oil salesman liar - extend the Bush tax cuts. NOW you asshole.

Be a man, you liar.



Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 30, 2010 11:49 AM (0fzsA)

52 I think NOW would be a good time to remind people that the ONLY reason those tax cuts are sunsetting is because Democrats filibustered making them permanent in the first place.

Republicans had to pass the tax cuts through reconciliation as a budget measure which means that they had to sunset per the rules of reconciliation because Democrats refused to even make them IN THE FIRST PLACE.

So yeah, let's TALK about the sunsetting of those tax cuts. I, for one, WELCOME, the discussion.

Posted by: Jim B at July 30, 2010 11:49 AM (6pO2h)

53 We have no intention of allowing the Republican tax increase — that
their policies would lead to — to go into effect for working Americans.

Translation.

Honey, you're the one who farted in the bed, because you fed me those beans, that I asked for.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 30, 2010 11:49 AM (0q2P7)

54 28 Posted by: RushBabe at July 30, 2010 11:40 AM (a3Z62)
Kinda makes that whole "just the top 2%" ring a little hollow.
I mean if they are only going to tax the top 2% and if the top 2% isn't here...
well, you do the math.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 11:50 AM (r1h5M)

55
extend



Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 30, 2010 11:50 AM (0fzsA)

56
I think NOW would be a good time to remind people that the ONLY reason
those tax cuts are sunsetting is because Democrats filibustered making
them permanent in the first place.


Bingo.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 30, 2010 11:50 AM (0fzsA)

57 “We’re going to act and make sure that the Republican phase out and
increase in taxes does not end as they provided for in the laws they
passed.”

The lies have become so outrageous I just can't believe they can say them with a straight face anymore.

I guess he has to blame it on the Republicans though in this opening salvo that is actually against Obama. This is the war that Stewart Varney spoke of between the congressional Democrats and the communist in the WH.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 11:50 AM (/jbAw)

58 I'm surprised President Metrosexual didn't discuss this on the View!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at July 30, 2010 11:51 AM (ERJIu)

59 29
Yes, they really think you are this stupid.
And for 52% of the population voters, they are right.


FIFY (actually, you are probably right as it stood, too).

Posted by: Roger at July 30, 2010 11:51 AM (tAwhy)

60 Just so everyone knows the real increase: a 4 point increase translates to a 14% hike in taxes on those over 200K. The dems always show the small number and take advantage of peoples understanding.

Posted by: MJ at July 30, 2010 11:51 AM (BKOsZ)

61 This is the war that Stewart Varney spoke of between the congressional Democrats and the communist in the WH.

Root for casualties.

Posted by: MikeO at July 30, 2010 11:52 AM (lBmZl)

62 The Republicans passed Obamacare.

Posted by: Future Steny Hoyer at July 30, 2010 11:52 AM (vVQq7)

63 You really can lie about anything you wish as long as the press is on your side.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 11:42 AM (oIp16)
No shit!

Posted by: Bonnie Prince Barack at July 30, 2010 11:52 AM (VuLos)

64 Cue ABBA's "Dancing Queen" and spin like a top.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 30, 2010 11:52 AM (pcJe3)

65 As a note:

The RNC should put together numbers showing all those people who got the "Bush tax cuts" just how much ADDITIONAL taxes they would have paid between now and then if the Democrats had their way and NO tax cuts were made in the first place.

Reminding even those in the lowest tax brackets just how much additional money Democrats TRIED to take out of their pockets over the last decade or so would be DEVASTATING to Democrats.

Can we talk about the Bush tax cuts more please? Please? I really, really wanna!!!!!

Posted by: Jim B at July 30, 2010 11:52 AM (6pO2h)

66 if by you you mean people that voted for obama then yes they are that stupid.

Posted by: mr pink at July 30, 2010 11:52 AM (LhoRf)

67 That makes myhead hurt...

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at July 30, 2010 11:53 AM (YVZlY)

68 We have always been at war with EastArizona.

Posted by: Steny Hoyer (D-Ouche) at July 30, 2010 11:53 AM (TFt+A)

69 Ve haff no intention of allowing these nasty things to happen to the Polish people that their leaders voted for by allowing us to successfully invade and conquer them!

Posted by: Adolph 'Steny' Hitler, (D-Bavaria) at July 30, 2010 11:54 AM (ERJIu)

70 "The enemy's attempt to halt our systematic advance to the rear has been successfully repulsed."

Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 30, 2010 11:54 AM (WvXvd)

71 Of course they're that stupid. 78% of Jews voted for a Moslem idiot who's a big fanboy of the people who want to kill them and their children.
Top that for stupid motherfuckers.

Posted by: TexasJew at July 30, 2010 11:54 AM (o7kZZ)

72
Republicans have been asking to extend the tax cuts ever since Obama was elected. Democrats said no. Now they're accusing the Republicans of increasing taxes. That's some impressive revisionism.

"The underlying House and Senate Democratic federal budget plans for
2009, though non-binding, drew blasts from Republicans for allowing
some or all of Bush's tax cuts to die in about three years." (3/14/200

"MR. GREGORY: Let's talk about tax cuts. About a third of his
package is made up of tax cuts. Republicans want more. Specifically
there's a question about the Bush tax cuts which, of course, expire
next year. Does the president want to actually repeal those tax cuts
this calendar year?
DR. SUMMERS: I don't think there's any question they have to be repealed. The country can't afford them for the long run." (1/25/2009)

Posted by: geoff at July 30, 2010 11:54 AM (zGLZj)

73 You can put kittens in the oven, but that don't make them biscuits!
Go pound sand Hoyer.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 30, 2010 11:54 AM (2g2ex)

74

"Yes, they really think you are this stupid."

Well this kind of crap works on the people who vote for them, so I can't really blame them for hoping it will work on normal people too. They could tell their followers that 2+2=5 and many of them would fall for it.

But yeah, they are desperate.

Democrats: Positive proof that 50% of the population is of below average intelligence.


Posted by: Lee Reynolds at July 30, 2010 11:55 AM (/gY4D)

75 64 You really can lie about anything you wish as long as the press is on your side.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 11:42 AM (oIp16)
No shit!
Posted by: Bonnie Prince Barack at July 30, 2010 11:52 AM (VuLos)
Don't you just love my dreamy husband?

Posted by: Patricia Ewing Obama at July 30, 2010 11:55 AM (YVZlY)

76 Remember when they said the same thing about the expiration of the assault weapons ban?

Posted by: John Galt at July 30, 2010 11:55 AM (F/4zf)

77 Another Maryland douchebag. I wonder why Maryland is filled with fucktards. It can't all be PG and Mont county.

Posted by: dagny at July 30, 2010 11:56 AM (brSmE)

78 Well, he sounds almost as bad as the Democrat Congressman who complained that his opponent was taking money from Jews. I shit you not about this. Check the observer.com. Congressman McMahon (Democrat from New York - unfortunately from my district) just complained that his opponent Mike Grimm was taking money from jews.

Posted by: Penfold at July 30, 2010 11:56 AM (1PeEC)

79 I have no intention of allowing harm to Americans because their leaders allowed us to successfully fly jetliners into their buildings!

Posted by: Osama 'Steny' Laden, (D-Tora Bora) at July 30, 2010 11:56 AM (ERJIu)

80 I am a product of PG county. [Hangs head in shame.] Got to Texas as fast as I could, though.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 30, 2010 11:58 AM (2g2ex)

81 TexasJew, to quote the Kinkster.."Ride 'em Jewboy!" You pounded thatsucker flush. Lay down that badass hammer.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 30, 2010 11:58 AM (pcJe3)

82 I just want to thank Steny for that bit of authentic frontier gibberish!

Posted by: Howard Johnson at July 30, 2010 11:59 AM (ERJIu)

83 I did not expect to be entered this way.

Posted by: Fiscal logic at July 30, 2010 11:59 AM (DHNp4)

84 5
Next year the Democrats will be telling us how they're gonna repeal the Republican's Health Care Reform bill.

Actually, I don't care if they do that. I just want Obamacare killed by any means possible as soon as possible.

As for the "republican tax increase," to me, that doesn't not sound illogical.

/yeah, I can do crazy @ss double negatives like a Dem...

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2010 12:00 PM (OKZrE)

85
The democrats are sinking so they know they have to roll out the bullshit and lies in order to fool as many stupids as possible.

Democrat ad campaign:
Proof of bullshit peddling found here.
Got reality? Hope. Nope.
We gonna cut taxes for the middle class! Really.

Democrats hate lowing taxes, so they will promise middle class tax cuts, but I doubt they will deliver. It's too late anyway. The democrats already raised our taxes via PelosiCare.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 30, 2010 12:00 PM (0fzsA)

86 79
Well, he sounds almost as bad as the Democrat Congressman who complained
that his opponent was taking money from Jews. I shit you not about
this. Check the observer.com. Congressman McMahon (Democrat from New
York - unfortunately from my district) just complained that his opponent
Mike Grimm was taking money from jews.


Posted by: Penfold at July 30, 2010 11:56 AM (1PeEC)
That was an above-the-fold story in the New York Times. It was all over the MSM.No, wait, I saw it on this blog.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 30, 2010 12:00 PM (PDN1L)

87 Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

The official sponsors of the 21st century.

I'm thinking I liked the 20th better.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at July 30, 2010 12:00 PM (IkEhE)

88 Adolf Hitler just emailed to say, "wow that was shameless."

Posted by: Phil at July 30, 2010 12:01 PM (UrWDV)

89 It can't all be PG and Mont county.

Don't forget Baltimore.

Posted by: MikeO at July 30, 2010 12:01 PM (lBmZl)

90
Next year the Democrats will be telling us how they're gonna repeal the Republican's Health Care Reform bill.


Gawd, no kidding.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 30, 2010 12:01 PM (0fzsA)

91 I did not expect to be entered this way.
Posted by: Fiscal logic

You never really do. You just have to brace yourself and hope that they tire fast.

Posted by: The chicken at July 30, 2010 12:01 PM (R2fpr)

92 Drinks are on me afterwards.

Posted by: al-Qaeda's #1 goat at July 30, 2010 12:02 PM (IkEhE)

93 14 Must be getting old/forgetful. I could have sworn it was the Dims that insisted on an expiration date for the Bush Tax Cuts.
----------------
That's how I remember it, too.

Posted by: Anachronda at July 30, 2010 12:03 PM (3K4hn)

94 Once again, the 11th Commandment in the Bill of Lefts:

11.
When your position can't be substantiated by logic or facts, divert the
issue to another topic that defames or attacks your opposition's
credibility. It is good if there is little justification to do so, and
even better if your spin is full of falsehoods and logical gaps. If
you are guilty of something, defend yourself by saying your opponent is
guilty of the same crime, even if it there is no truth in the
accusation.

Posted by: drfredc at July 30, 2010 12:03 PM (Qw60D)

95 Wait a minute: How can this be a Republican tax hike, I thought it was patriotic to pay a higher rate?We all know that Rs are much less patriotic than Ds.

Posted by: MJ at July 30, 2010 12:03 PM (BKOsZ)

96 Steny, you lie!

How you like me know, bitches? Now make me a sammich! No, make me a buffet. You owe me.

Posted by: Joe Wilson at July 30, 2010 12:03 PM (swuwV)

97 Balmer, PG, and Monkey county represent more than enough fail for any state. The Eastern Shore and the west just can't come up with enough people and money to balance all the crazy out.

Posted by: joncelli at July 30, 2010 12:04 PM (RD7QR)

98 If a war breaks out in Korea can we call it the Democratic 60 year war?

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 12:04 PM (wuv1c)

99
“We have no intention of allowing the Republican tax increase — that their policies would lead to — to go into effect for working Americans. Period,” he said. “We’re going to act and make sure that the Republican phase out and increase in taxes does not end as they provided for in the laws they passed.”
Holy crap. Statements like this should be avoided. You could lose all credibility saying things like this. I know the belly of the Beast, and even he couldn't stomach this!

Posted by: Baghdad Bob (former Iraqi Press Secretary) at July 30, 2010 12:04 PM (R2fpr)

100 wow,
I found myself reading this and i sat here for several seconds with my mouth hanging open .
how unlady-like.
what do you want to bet, the next few weeks we will have this said to us over and over again by axelroving turds.

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 12:04 PM (SbsTp)

101 RushBabe I don't want those losers either. I hope they choke on their money.
Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2010 11:45 AM (2mIrh)
That's what I thought, but further reading says these folks might be the most patriotic because they can be the ones totry to "fix" the US from the outside. Another document says thatfor 10 years after citizenship renunciation you must still pay US taxes!A while ago, I heard that Rangel (!)got through some kind of wacky legislation regarding folks permanentlyleaving the country as far asfreezing their assets. Also, if you look at it from the viewpoint of big money movers and shakers, when and if this Obama mess ends, they'll be the ones who can return and capitalize business start-ups.

Posted by: RushBabe at July 30, 2010 12:05 PM (a3Z62)

102 Biden's a stealth Republican who knew?

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 12:06 PM (SbsTp)

103 wow,
I found myself reading this and i sat here for several seconds with my mouth hanging open .
how unlady-like.
what do you want to bet, the next few weeks we will have this said to us over and over again by axelroving turds.
Posted by: willow

No, I don't think that any of us will be saying that you're not lady-like over the next few weeks.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 12:06 PM (R2fpr)

104 Willow

P.S. How're YOU doin'?

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 12:07 PM (R2fpr)

105 Balmer, PG, and Monkey county represent more than
enough fail for any state. The Eastern Shore and the west just can't
come up with enough people and money to balance all the crazy out.

Posted by: joncelli at July 30, 2010 12:04 PM

I live in a sane part of MD (Frederick County) that was seriously considering breaking off and becoming a new state. Western MD is as conservative as Oklahoma.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 30, 2010 12:08 PM (yQWNf)

106 The stupidity of these people never ceases to amaze me.

oh and the stupidity of the people that will actually believe Hoyer is equally as amazing.

Posted by: Timbo at July 30, 2010 12:08 PM (ph9vn)

107 Steny Hoyer stars in: That Was Then, This Is Now.

Posted by: huerfano at July 30, 2010 12:09 PM (NmcJ6)

108 Oh goody. Preznit Mongrel is due to speak any moment in Detroit.

*reaches for mute button on remote*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 12:09 PM (UOM48)

109 Blue Hen, i stink at writing and posting.
blushing.

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 12:09 PM (SbsTp)

110 And in other news:
Former U.S. Commission on Civil Rights Chairman Mary Frances Berry:
"Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness."
http://politi.co/coX5Si

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 12:09 PM (oIp16)

111 oh and the stupidity of the people that will actually believe Hoyer is equally as amazing.
Hi!

Posted by: denny crane 2.0 at July 30, 2010 12:10 PM (ERJIu)

112 89
Adolf Hitler Joseph Gobbels just emailed to say, "wow that was shameless."

FIFY

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2010 12:12 PM (OKZrE)

113 It can't all be PG and Mont county.Don't forget Baltimore.
Posted by: MikeO at July 30, 2010 12:01 PM (lBmZl)

And Annapolis.Except for the Naval Academy, it's filled with pretentious yuppie-douchebag liberal types. Not that there aren't pretentious douchebags of another sort at the Naval Academy.

Posted by: shillelagh at July 30, 2010 12:13 PM (Oz4Bj)

114 Truck Monkey, that's the tragedy about MD: Parts of it are great places to live but the state is run by the people who made the rest of the state a mess. That's why I got out of Montgomery County as quickly as I could. (And ended up in Montgomery County PA, but that's another story.)

Posted by: joncelli at July 30, 2010 12:13 PM (RD7QR)

115 110
Oh goody. Preznit Mongrel is due to speak any moment in Detroit.

*reaches for mute button on remote*

Proper (cardiologist approved!) response:

CHANGE CHANNEL IMMEDIATELY!

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2010 12:13 PM (OKZrE)

116 Blue Hen, i stink at writing and posting.
blushing.
Posted by: willow

But there are always other pursuits. Take for example the position in which you found yourself. Better yet, let one of us take that position........

Welcome to the Moron Nation. Come for the smart military pron. Stay for whatever presents itself.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 12:14 PM (R2fpr)

117 Lavrentiy Beria just e-mailed me to say that he could help produce some 'reality show trials' for the Dems. I stopped taking his calls, so he just e-mails me.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 12:15 PM (oIp16)

118 due to speak any moment in Detroit.

How...metaphorical.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 30, 2010 12:16 PM (NvFZs)

119 Isn't Steny the former judge who was unseated for plagiarism or some other unsavory thing?

Posted by: RushBabe at July 30, 2010 12:16 PM (a3Z62)

120
This line of bullshit is being swallowed up the democrat base.

There's no way this ends well for any of us.

Posted by: Dang Straights at July 30, 2010 12:16 PM (fx8sm)

121 Awesome.

Posted by: Boy Who Cried Wolf at July 30, 2010 12:16 PM (aOKEC)

122 @87

Found the link at Fark.com. Talk about a gift from heaven for Grimm.

Posted by: Penfold at July 30, 2010 12:16 PM (1PeEC)

123 But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness."
http://politi.co/coX5Si

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 12:09 PM (oIp16)
They should be ashamed of dividing the country like this.
how useful turning citizen angainst citizen. bastids.

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 12:16 PM (SbsTp)

124 I was wondering what that pervasive smell was --kind of like a jar of dead snakes. I realize now it's desperation so extreme that it drivesDemocrats to delusion and madness. I'm in San Diego, and it blew here all the way from D.C.
I want to torment these people. Unmolested, they will quietly retire and live well off our money. It's fair and reasonable to torpedo their quiet lives. Any ideas?

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at July 30, 2010 12:17 PM (w41GQ)

125 Alcee Hastings is the dhimmi ex disgraced judge.

Posted by: Donna at July 30, 2010 12:18 PM (A77nn)

126 The great D v R distraction continues ad infinitum.

Those of you clinging to the idea that their are distinctions between R and D philosophies are idiots. They changed the rules years ago. Here is that lost memo.

This is no longer a government for the people nor by the people. This is us against you. We win, you lose. We don't care about your solutions or opinions, so stfu and send in your taxes. Paying us is patriotic. Your banter about politics is interesting but not useful. We will then take your money, give it to bankers and sympathetic voters. We couldn't care less what you want. It's what we want that matters.

Capiche?

Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at July 30, 2010 12:19 PM (Q8oid)

127 Boy, wouldn't it be great if we had people that could ask Hoyer exactly how he expects to get away with that nonsense, and then keep after him to make sure everybody knows that statement is baloney? We could call them, oh, I don't know, journalists or something like that! Maybe give them a show on a big television network? I know it sounds crazy, but it just might work!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at July 30, 2010 12:19 PM (ERJIu)

128 They should be ashamed of dividing the country like this. How useful; turning citizen angainst citizen. bastids.
Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 12:16 PM (SbsTp)
We are all "cowards" now.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 12:19 PM (oIp16)

129 That is some weapons grade fucknuttery right there. You'd have to be dumber than asack of dicksto believe something likethat.
In other words, this is gonna work on the Dem base.

Posted by: gator at July 30, 2010 12:20 PM (aOKEC)

130 Mr. Hoyer,

You owe me on Acme Mk IV Mod 7 Bullshit Meter. This one just exploded.

Posted by: Nighhawk at July 30, 2010 12:21 PM (OtQXp)

131 We are going to hear this repeated by every MFM mouthpiece over the next 24 hours. On the Sunday shows, someone will call 'em on it. Maybe. Maybe?

Posted by: MJ at July 30, 2010 12:21 PM (BKOsZ)

132 We will then take your money, give it to bankers and sympathetic voters. We couldn't care less what you want. It's what we want that matters. Capiche?
Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes

Just banks eh? Not unions? Not other aspects of the financial world? Not other types of business? Not various extra-national bodies? Just a diatribe against the banks.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 12:22 PM (R2fpr)

133 I may be a total fool for believing this, but I'm at peace with it: I've talked to a lot of people in my neighborhood about voting this fall. A surprising number of them who had never voted before in their lives registered to vote in the last big election because Obama was on the ballot. They are not interested in voting this November, because he is not. It escapes their understanding that he needs those who support his policies in Congress to make those policies happen. I wonder how this small sampling represents the general mood in the country.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at July 30, 2010 12:23 PM (fuw6p)

134 I want to torment these people. Unmolested, they will quietly retire and live well off our money. It's fair and reasonable to torpedo their quiet lives. Any ideas?

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at July 30, 2010 12:17 PM (w41GQ)
My fantasies involve seizing all their assets and returning them to the US Treasury while they wear orange jumpsuits and slowdance with Bubba or Big Betty. Their kids' assets would be confiscated as well as anyone connected with looting the treasury -- I'm looking at you Stern,Trumpka, Axlerod, members of the PPO (Partisan Political Operatives, Rush's name for the "old media.")

Posted by: RushBabe at July 30, 2010 12:24 PM (a3Z62)

135
Former U.S. Commission on Civil Rights Chairman Mary Frances Berry:
"Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks
and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in
November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness."

http://politi.co/coX5Si

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 12:09 PM (oIp16)Wow...that's just right out there, huh? Unbelievable....

Posted by: Tami at July 30, 2010 12:24 PM (VuLos)

136 The Dems (Hoyer) is referring to the expiring Bush tax cuts and how letting the Bush tax cuts expire would be essentially a Republican tax increase.
What I don't understand is this; I thought that Bush was to blame for everything.
Are we now to believe that Bush, when he cut taxes, was a genius and the only hope now to save Obama's failed economy.
Pardon me while my head spins off my shoulders.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 12:24 PM (r1h5M)

137 "...Having one's opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness."

I'm guessing America is finally waking up to the scam. The meteoric slide from grace as indicted by polling trends certainly suggests it.

Besides, all those jobless, funemployed, or soon to be who might be discussing racism are surely discussing their life crisis, too. Guess which carries more weight in spite of the political spin? They'll be seeing November from their cardboard boxes.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 30, 2010 12:25 PM (swuwV)

138 You owe me on Acme Mk IV Mod 7 Bullshit Meter. This one just exploded.
Posted by: Nighhawk at July 30, 2010 12:21 PM (OtQXp)
Ask for the MK V model. Higher capacity.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 12:26 PM (r1h5M)

139 Pardon me while my head spins off my shoulders.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 12:24 PM (r1h5M)
That shit's a bitch...just sayin'

Posted by: Linda Blair at July 30, 2010 12:26 PM (YVZlY)

140 Alcee Hastings is the dhimmi ex disgraced judge.
Posted by: Donna at July 30, 2010 12:18 PM (A77nn)
Ooops. That's it. Thanks. For some reason I have it stuck in my head thatSteny is a crook of the highest order. Imagine that.

Posted by: RushBabe at July 30, 2010 12:26 PM (a3Z62)

141 I may be a total fool for believing this, but I'm at peace with it: I've talked to a lot of people in my neighborhood about voting this fall. A surprising number of them who had never voted before in their lives registered to vote in the last big election because Obama was on the ballot. They are not interested in voting this November, because he is not. It escapes their understanding that he needs those who support his policies in Congress to make those policies happen. I wonder how this small sampling represents the general mood in the country.
Posted by: Laura Castellano

I hope that your observation holds generally. I've often thought that people voted for a fad, or 'moment' (first African/Mongrel/Clean/Articulate American). President Pokemon is the manifestation of a fad. If this holds tru, then that moment has passed, and with it, sufficient support to keep him in place. That fact that Dems are already refusing to campaign with him lends credence to this.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 12:26 PM (R2fpr)

142 This is giving me flashbacks to all those times my brother would make me hit myself with my own hand, whilst yelling at me to stop hitting myself. So fun.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at July 30, 2010 12:27 PM (HaYO4)

143
That shit's a bitch...just sayin'
Posted by: Linda Blair at July 30, 2010 12:26 PM (YVZlY)
Wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the green vomit.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 12:28 PM (r1h5M)

144 Tami.
mindblowing isn't it. He is outright admitting the whole racism charges are lies ,(tool to scare and divide)why We knew this, they are so full of themselves for getting one over on the american people for decades, they no longer even hide their shameful behavior and causing hate among fellow americans.
Shame on them, Shame!

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 12:29 PM (SbsTp)

145 I hope so, too, Blue Hen. I just know that, leading up to the Presidential election, I had terrible feelings of unease, and the closer to November we get, the more calm I feel about the outcome. Not that I'm psychic or anything, and we all still expect some kind of October Surprise. I'm just thinking that, as desperate as they are becoming, they will probably overreach themselves by far. It could be something so ridiculous that only the most brainwashed, leftist-programmed people will fall for it.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at July 30, 2010 12:31 PM (fuw6p)

146 If the GOP does not take both housed of congress this Nov., all hope is lost for the Republic. It's not the ruling class that governs that's the problem. It's "We the People" .... well not you morons, your OK. I just wouldn't want my sister to marry on of you. We've hit critical mass with those wanting to be taken care of with someone eles's money.

Posted by: Paladin at July 30, 2010 12:32 PM (AfORa)

147 It's a measure of how idiotic the Dems (and too many Repubs in D.C.) are that they can't see the true cure for our ills:

Don't raise taxes -- cut spending!

That's too difficult a concept to sell to thieving, self-absorbed politicians in the Age of Osama Obama, I know.

BTW -- the Traitor-in-Chief is speaking to the auto workers at Chrysler right now. If I had a dollar (hell, a penny!) for every lie that arrogant asshole has spouted in this speech, I could spend the rest of my life in Monte Carlo (and no, I don't mean the Chevy).

I'm too angry to say any more. Switching to the Cartoon Channel.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 30, 2010 12:32 PM (Ulu3i)

148 You know, I may have been a stupid fad too, but nobody was dumb enough to elect me president!!

Posted by: Pet Rock at July 30, 2010 12:33 PM (ERJIu)

149 The key component to stealing your money is the Fed Reserve and fractional banking and a debt driven economy.

I have a wonderful piece on a bank that Obama bailed out in Illinois and a plan to reap billions funneled through it. Why do you think the greatest contributors to politicians are banks? Why do you think politicians gave a trillion dollars of your money away to save them?

It's as simple as money. Money is power. People covet wealth and power, above all else. They prove it, time and time again.

So while us idiots discuss politics, they laugh as they find new ways to steal your money. And disguise them as tax cuts on the "wealthy" or cap and trade, or health care bills, or cash for clunkers which was simply a way to increase fractional reserve requirements for listing banks.

It's always been about money and power. Since the dawn of time. This politics thing, second rate.

Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at July 30, 2010 12:34 PM (Q8oid)

150 I savedthese two thousandjobs, for the bargain basement price of around $800 billion.
Gather 'round, there's plenty of room to bow and worship. Not too close, you racist Bible-squeezer! Security! Security!

Posted by: JugEars McToonces at July 30, 2010 12:34 PM (aOKEC)

151

I am gobsmacked.

01-49-28-09-06-35

Posted by: fortune cookie at July 30, 2010 12:34 PM (8/oOq)

152 willow: "Shame on them, Shame!"

I think you missed this from our esteemed colleague, Steny, earlier. To wit:

Did we ever tell you that we have no shame?

Well, we have no shame.

Posted by: Progressives and Democrats and the MFM (BIRM), Oh My at July 30, 2010 12:35 PM (swuwV)

153 You know, I may have been a stupid fad too, but nobody was dumb enough to elect me president!!
Posted by: Pet Rock
No, but you did make the number two spot. Congratulations Mr. Vice President Biteme.

Or does he qualify as the chia politician?

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 12:36 PM (R2fpr)

154 “We have no intention of allowing the Republican tax increase — that their policies would lead to — to go into effect for working Americans. Period,” he said. “We’re going to act and make sure that the Republican phase out and increase in taxes does not end as they provided for in the laws they passed.”

I'm sorry, but I have to admire the sheer chutzpah. It's phenomenal. This isn't a kid who killed his parents and begged mercy from the court for being an orphan. This is a kid who killed his parents and then insisted that they are just faking being dead. "They're just resting."
Unreal. Impressively so.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 30, 2010 12:36 PM (5TNVe)

155 Don't raise taxes -- cut spending!Surely you understand that cutting spending is not effective in buying votes.

Posted by: JugEars McToonces at July 30, 2010 12:37 PM (aOKEC)

156 Can't wait to see his first encore.

Posted by: gator at July 30, 2010 12:39 PM (aOKEC)

157 What up, dogs?

Posted by: Michael Steele at July 30, 2010 12:39 PM (8/oOq)

158 I'm picking up another 5L keg this afternoon.

Posted by: Journolist at July 30, 2010 12:39 PM (8EEyy)

159 Stunned. Just stunned.

I can only ask if Representative Hoyer also pulled out Caesar's will, showing what the stabbed man had planned to donate to the Roman citizenry?

Basically, in a nutshell, we have yet another example that while the Republicans may (and do) have their problem children when it comes to thinking of themselves as some elect class of guardians, they will never come close to matching Democrats in their outright brazeness in believing that it is acceptable to win not just by mangling the truth, but to do so knowing that they are 1.) caught in the act and 2.) relying on a one-party media to make it work anyway.

A Republican may appeal to your prejudices to get your vote. A Democrat will create them for you out of whole cloth.

Posted by: Horatius at July 30, 2010 12:39 PM (6Ke6U)

160 "They're just resting."

Do you want to come around back, then?

Posted by: brian at July 30, 2010 12:39 PM (y05cf)

161 I think before we condemn people leaving America and renouncing citizenship, we should keep in mind what it means to "go Galt." Yes, it's selfish. That's the point. They might not have the perfect reasons for doing so, and renouncing citizenship rankles me a bit, but they're still starving the beast, and doing so out of self-interest. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's in a nutshellwhat "going Galt" is.

Posted by: shillelagh at July 30, 2010 12:39 PM (Oz4Bj)

162
President Pokemon is the manifestation of a fad.

Do what I do: Whenever a lefty stranger is compelled to share his views with you, steer the conversation to telling him that the increased registration for the 2008 elections has helped a lot with catching criminals. I imply that I'm working on a project for an unspecified law-enforcement agency that cross-checks voter logs at the polls against outstanding warrants to make it easier to round-up crooks on election day.

I often eat at the bar when I'm on business travel, and it floors me how almost uniformly moonbatty the bartenders are in chain restaurants.

Posted by: MikeO at July 30, 2010 12:39 PM (lBmZl)

163 We're fucked no matter what the outcome of the elections in November is.Slower or faster,we are still going down the drain.

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2010 12:40 PM (xDFPB)

164 Steny and I go way back. I'm proud of ya, son.

Posted by: Joey Plugs at July 30, 2010 12:40 PM (GwPRU)

165 Damn those pesky tax cuts. Now we have to make ourselves look good by not letting them expire. Letting the people use the extra money to help the economy is just untenable. We won't have enough power to rule the poor and make the rest poorer.

Posted by: harleycowboy at July 30, 2010 12:40 PM (jm8nz)

166 "They're just resting."
No, they are pining for the fjiords!

Posted by: Johnnyreb at July 30, 2010 12:42 PM (y67bA)

167 ReKKKuglicans have given us the two worse Presidents ever, GWB and BHO. Shame on them!

Posted by: Steny Hoyer at July 30, 2010 12:44 PM (epBek)

168 I'm sorry, but I have to admire the sheer chutzpah. It's phenomenal. This isn't a kid who killed his parents and begged mercy from the court for being an orphan. This is a kid who killed his parents and then insisted that they are just faking being dead. "They're just resting."
More like the kid who killed his parents, got caught red-handed while chopping them to bits, then blamed his neighbor for the murder while also claiming that he was trying perform CPR.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at July 30, 2010 12:44 PM (JxMoP)

169 Tea Partiers are secret Marxists intent on destroying the country

Posted by: HoyersRules at July 30, 2010 12:44 PM (+sBB4)

170 I'm sure that the MFM and loyal Democrats/leftists everywhere (BIRM) have already processed this new reality and will soon be regurgitating it as absolute fact from sea to shining sea.

Posted by: tsj017 at July 30, 2010 12:44 PM (4YUWF)

171 #116, I fled Montgomery County, MD at age 18, and after many detours in Uncle Sam's service now reside in Montgomery County, Tennessee.

Posted by: SGT Dan at July 30, 2010 12:45 PM (GgXZc)

172 Slower or faster,we are still going down the drain.
Dude, we have a mongrel President that's saving all our asses.
All our asses, indeed.
By the way, I sure hope the illegal aliens protesting in American streets get what they want.

Posted by: gator at July 30, 2010 12:45 PM (aOKEC)

173 That SOB Bush did it to us again. When is Bush going to leave office? Can we elect someone like Obama this Novemebre. I am tired!!!!

Posted by: Buster Hymand at July 30, 2010 12:45 PM (SZy+Y)

174 If we had an honest Main Stream Media, there wouldn't be a single Democrat in office.

As a bonus, if the MFM suddenly became honest, they could put Rush Limbaugh out of business. Surely that must tempt them.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 30, 2010 12:46 PM (eNxMU)

175
"So yeah, let's TALK about the sunsetting of those tax cuts. I, for one,
WELCOME, the discussion."

Discussion? Facts? We'll be giving you the narrative and nothing but the narrative between now and November: deal with it.

Posted by: The JournoList MFM at July 30, 2010 12:47 PM (VrNoa)

176 You owe me on Acme Mk IV Mod 7 Bullshit Meter. This one just exploded.
No wonder! You ought to know better than to use a mark IV to analyze something a democratic congress bullshitter like Hoyer has to say, your lucky you weren't killed.
Get yourself the Mark 8 with the optional with the new PF attachment (politician filter). It automatically clamps the amplitude of the incoming bullshit signal so your meter doesn't blow up.
Also, it comes in a variety of designer colors. Also if you act now we'll throw in a free carrying case.

Posted by: W.E. Coyote - CEO, ACME Products at July 30, 2010 12:49 PM (e8T35)

177 I am the Light, the Way, and the Truth.

Posted by: The Dark Lord at July 30, 2010 12:50 PM (gbCNS)

178 40
The sad thing is that it will probably work for a large number of people.


Posted by: McLovin at July 30, 2010 11:46 AM (j0IcY)

I think the number you're looking for is FiftyTwo Percent.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Squad, And Summoner Of Meteors. at July 30, 2010 12:50 PM (eCAn3)

179 I can say this as an average middle class person peon - with my budget, any increase in my taxes will come out of spending - whether it be groceries, or electric bill, or cable, or Internet, or delaying for another decade that shiny new Gubmint Motors car. If I'm average, multiply times about 50 million people and you've got an economy in a tale spin of nightmare proportions. Spin it anyway you want it (D)'s - I know I can count on you to do the wrong thing.

Even Jimmy Carter got a couple of things right. Though that was so many beers ago, I can't remember a one.

Posted by: Downsized Upscale at July 30, 2010 12:51 PM (IhHdM)

180 More like the kid who killed his parents, got caught red-handed while chopping them to bits, then blamed his neighbor for the murder while also claiming that he was trying perform CPR.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at July 30, 2010 12:44 PM (JxMoP)
Much better. Thanks.
I wonder if this "Republican tax increase" perversion was on JournoList at some point?Of course, the dems have been getting away with claiming that the GOP had been in charge of everything up to 2009,even after the dems took the House and Senate and the purse strings of the US, so I guess this new tack is just an extension of a tried and true lie.
It is embarrassing, and extremely sad,to think about how future history books are going to accurately portray this generation of Americans as one of the worst andmost patheticin all of human history.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 30, 2010 12:52 PM (5TNVe)

181 Savior of all mankind on tv taking crediting for saving all mankind - hence the title.
Full campaign, I'm really just a regular ole' savior of the world going about my business saving the world, mode, taking credit for his hard work in making the sun come up this morning and for his ultimate self-sacrifice of missing golf to walk among the mere mortals of the world.
His campaign though has a tone of don't vote for those other asshole democrats because they deserve it. Vote for them because, if you vote for them, you vote for me. And we all love me, don't we?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 12:52 PM (r1h5M)

182 I think I'm in love.

Posted by: Baghdad Bob, President of the Hoyer Fan Club at July 30, 2010 12:53 PM (epBek)

183 Later Hoyer added that he was not going to rest until the Republicans stopped trying to push taxpayer funded abortions in the dead of night - "as we all know they're time could be much better used trying to protect our national security from terrorists rather than trying to kill babies!"

He then went on to excoriate conservatives for taking over the nation's car companies and banks while throwing lavish parties for themselves and booking separate private jets for their pets.

I must admit this Hoyer guy makes some damn good points. I know I'll be voting Democrat this November.

Posted by: oh, Hi Mark at July 30, 2010 12:54 PM (LjYhY)

184 I am going to denounce all the luscious young interns who have raped me with their mouths.
But first they will blow me.

Posted by: Steny Hoyer at July 30, 2010 12:54 PM (epBek)

185 HotAir says Obama sunk the oil rig.

Posted by: PigsFly at July 30, 2010 12:54 PM (+sBB4)

186 Ask for the MK V model. Higher capacity.
For that type of bullshit you gonna need the MK IX model, which is still in testing. Works fine, except for when Obama gives a speech....then the damn things flames out and ends up a smoldering pile of charred metal.

Posted by: Acme R and D Department at July 30, 2010 12:55 PM (OWjjx)

187 I thought Baghdad Bob should have gotten his own TV show after the war.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 12:55 PM (bw+Qn)

188 You know what. . .

I won't care so much about the current line of Democrat bullshit, so long as the f'in tax increases are actually blocked.

If the Dems vote for that and want to take credit, fine.

Posted by: looking closely at July 30, 2010 12:56 PM (6Q9g2)

189 DONT FORGET MCNASTY WAS AGAINST MAKING IT PERMENT!!!

Posted by: Serfer62 at July 30, 2010 12:57 PM (HLCnI)

190 190

I thought Baghdad Bob should have gotten his own TV show after the war.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 12:55 PM (bw+Qn)

he did, the networks just changed his name to Robert Gibbels.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Squad, And Summoner Of Meteors. at July 30, 2010 12:57 PM (eCAn3)

191 Do it to Julia, Hoyer.


Posted by: Kristopher at July 30, 2010 12:57 PM (kCEOg)

192 HotAir says Obama sunk the oil rig.
Posted by: PigsFly at July 30, 2010 12:54 PM (+sBB4)
Lots of us have been saying that since the beginning.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 30, 2010 12:58 PM (5TNVe)

193 I posted here last week that for the first time in Georgia history, the Republican turnout at the polls for the primaries was greater than the Dems, by about 225,000.

Proves to me the fuckwits who voted for Barky are too damned stupid and lazy to vote. Which is a good thing.

Ah, I love the smell of libtard idiocy on a Friday.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 12:59 PM (UOM48)

194 For that type of bullshit you gonna need the MK IX model, which is still in testing. Works fine, except for when Obama gives a speech....then the damn things flames out and ends up a smoldering pile of charred metal.
Posted by: Acme R and D Department at July 30, 2010 12:55 PM (OWjjx)
Unfortunately, that model relies on advanced alien technology as yet undiscovered. Plus it's cost prohibitive.
Just have to turn the damn thingoff whenever any even mentions the word, "teleprompter!"

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 01:00 PM (r1h5M)

195 Fox News Alert: (per Megyn)

Barky and his minions considering back door amnesty for illegals.

And this:

Possible murder charges pending against Julian Assbang. Goody.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 01:02 PM (UOM48)

196 For that type of bullshit you gonna need the MK IX model, which is still in testing. Works fine, except for when Obama gives a speech....then the damn things flames out and ends up a smoldering pile of charred metal.
Ahem.. gentleman, I thought we had this discussion once before. The Mark IX is not yet ready for field trials. For now the best technology available is still the Mark VIII with the PF attachment. Granted even the Mark VIII still won't stand up to a speech by the annointed one, but it's the best we've got.
Now I think you gentleman in RD should be working on the "Now let me be perfectly clear" fix for the Mark IX so hopefully we'll be able to produce one that doesn't go up like a roman candle, rather than wasting your time posting on blogs and chasing hot russian spies.
Also, I would appreciate it if you people could finally get around to fixing that damn bug in the firing circuitry of our rockets. The fact that they only fire at the most inconvient time and always run out of fuel right over the edge of a huge cliff is getting quite annoying.

Posted by: W.E. Coyote - CEO, ACME Products at July 30, 2010 01:02 PM (e8T35)

197 122

This line of bullshit is being swallowed up the democrat base. There's no way this ends well for any of us.

Let them wallow in their delusions.

Indeed, as in the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 30, 2010 01:02 PM (9hSKh)

198 HotAir says Obama sunk the oil rig. economy and the country.
FIFY

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 01:03 PM (OWjjx)

199 195 HotAir says Obama sunk the oil rig.

Posted by: PigsFly at July 30, 2010 12:54 PM (+sBB4)
Lots of us have been saying that since the beginning.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 30, 2010 12:58 PM (5TNVe)
Funny things those physics. Kind of like magic is a lot of ways.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 01:03 PM (r1h5M)

200 Possible murder charges pending against Julian Assbang. Goody.
Shitcanned by Eric Holder and his Department of Injustice in 5, 4, 3...

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 30, 2010 01:04 PM (e8T35)

201 196 I posted here last week that for the first time in Georgia history, the Republican turnout at the polls for the primaries was greater than the Dems, by about 225,000.Proves to me the fuckwits who voted for Barky are too damned stupid and lazy to vote. Which is a good thing.Ah, I love the smell of libtard idiocy on a Friday.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 12:59 PM (UOM4
< Jane - best news I've heard in a long time. You feeling better?

Posted by: Journolist at July 30, 2010 01:04 PM (8EEyy)

202 Ah, more ammo!!!

Posted by: The American Insurgency at July 30, 2010 01:04 PM (pOgEW)

203 188
HotAir says Obama sunk the oil rig.

So it wasn't the Norks? Who'd thunk it?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 30, 2010 01:05 PM (9hSKh)

204 Anyone got a good website to look up Hoyer quotes from back in 2001 and 2003 to see what he was saying about the tax cuts back then? I'm sure he'll have said something to support the sunset restriction.

Posted by: CDR M at July 30, 2010 01:05 PM (5I8G0)

205 Ah'm fine, thank you!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 01:05 PM (UOM48)

206 Thinking further--you know, this really is one of the reasons I will intuitively vote--and I do mean vote--Republican every time (or else not vote at all). I do not support the Republican establishment. I am not onboard with every item of the plank. But when push comes to shove, I fall the way I do because of the following:

I don't think a "theocracy" is anything remotely possible, but you know, if the Republicans were ever able (or more importantly, inclined, which they are not as a mass) to do so, it would still be done in the open, via a rule of law process. With Republicans, you would get a 'tyranny' via a process that could be reversed. Because that really is who they are.

A Democrat tyranny would come about over time as a ever-expanding set of people found themselves waking up one day and reading in the paper former allies saying something a lot like Hoyer just said...except about them this time...

In other words, a Democratic tyranny would come about via the continual process of people being 'airbrushed' over time from the conceptual picture of what is decent and what isn't....but an airbrushing by fiat, not a vote.

Posted by: Horatius at July 30, 2010 01:05 PM (6Ke6U)

207 Now I think you gentleman in RD should be working on the "Now let me be perfectly clear" fix for the Mark IX so hopefully we'll be able to produce one that doesn't go up like a roman candle, rather than wasting your time posting on blogs and chasing hot russian spies.
Beep, Beep.

Posted by: Acme R and D Department at July 30, 2010 01:06 PM (OWjjx)

208 206 188 HotAir says Obama sunk the oil rig.So it wasn't the Norks? Who'd thunk it?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 30, 2010 01:05 PM (9hSKh)
Dammit People! Listen to me, it was the Norks!

Posted by: Alex Jones at July 30, 2010 01:06 PM (YVZlY)

209 202 195 HotAir says Obama sunk the oil rig.
Posted by: PigsFly at July 30, 2010 12:54 PM (+sBB4)
Lots of us have been saying that since the beginning.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 30, 2010 12:58 PM (5TNVe)
So it's safe here now to posit those wacky conspiratorial thoughts?
'Cause I'm about to explode.

Posted by: dum blond at July 30, 2010 01:08 PM (gbCNS)

210 You ever wonder why someone would pontificate on the cabal of bankers in a thread about a politician spewing Orwellian fatuous bullshit?

Yeah, me neither.

Stop punching down, or something.

Posted by: Something Wicked Got Lost Trying to Come This Other Way at July 30, 2010 01:11 PM (IQBsP)

211 PigsFly: "HotAir says Obama sunk the oil rig."

So the Coast Guard might have precipitated this, i.e. might've tipped it over? It figures. See, this is what I'm talking about.

Posted by: Hank Johnson, Tipologist at July 30, 2010 01:11 PM (swuwV)

212 209 Right on!Logic, goodold fashion logic. This is the type of reasoning that gives me hope.

Posted by: Journolist at July 30, 2010 01:12 PM (8EEyy)

213 Quote of the day:

GarandFan

Either Hoyer is that fucking stupid, or he thinks we are.

I'd only add "Why can't it be both?"

Posted by: Patton at July 30, 2010 01:16 PM (bQoya)

214 Beep, Beep.
Curses. Foiled again.

Posted by: W.E. Coyote - CEO, ACME Products at July 30, 2010 01:16 PM (e8T35)

215 212
202 195 HotAir says Obama sunk the oil rig.
Posted by: PigsFly at July 30, 2010 12:54 PM (+sBB4)
Lots of us have been saying that since the beginning.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 30, 2010 12:58 PM (5TNVe)
So it's safe here now to posit those wacky conspiratorial thoughts?
'Cause I'm about to explode.

Posted by: dum blond at July 30, 2010 01:08 PM (gbCNS)
why yes it is. just in time for The gvt. to get ahold of all the sites we visit, and comment on.
wonder why they are so interested?
of course they never mentioned their dismay that some of the people are listening to those we shouldn't, cause that's just wrong.
that's my tin foil hat moment.

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 01:18 PM (SbsTp)

216 More like the kid who killed his parents, got
caught red-handed while chopping them to bits, then blamed his neighbor
for the murder while also claiming that he was trying perform CPR.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at July 30, 2010 12:44 PM

If, that is, the "kid" has an unlimited budget and 535 people saying either he's the reincarnation of Jesus and above all blame, or that he's really an okay kid and we need to give him another chance so as not to upset anyone....

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 30, 2010 01:18 PM (Ulu3i)

217 Help me here.
For years all we heard was "tax cuts for the rich" and middle and lower income people got no cuts at all, only Bush's millionaire buddies. Now it's Repubs want to raise taxes on the poor and middle class by not extending tax cuts they claim never existed in the first place.
And my wife says scotch makes me incoherent. Yea, right.

Posted by: bigred at July 30, 2010 01:28 PM (uh7Ap)

218 that's my tin foil hat moment.
Just curious, does wearing one of those make the stuff Hoyer or Gibb'ssay sound any less ludicrous?
HotAir says Obama sunk the oil rig.
Not completely far fetched, actually. I'm sure Obama will demand a full investigation, by someone who can be trusted to get to the bottom of all of this and make sure we all know the truth about what happened here.
Stay tuned for:
Charlie Rangel, in Hellfighters II (The Duke Rolls Over in His Grave)

Posted by: W.E. Coyote - CEO, ACME Products at July 30, 2010 01:29 PM (e8T35)

219 Drat.. stand back! Sock Misfire - lousy rotten RD department has gone to the birds!

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 30, 2010 01:30 PM (e8T35)

220 What I'd really like to know is how the Republicans are planning on paying for these cuts if they're continued. I'm not buying the 'they'll pay for themselves' argument. With the economy looking like it's going to stay sluggish for awhile, paying for itself doesn't seem likely,whether they're able to kill HCR or not.

Posted by: JEA at July 30, 2010 01:36 PM (2X4q0)

221 W.E Coyote,
wearing my tin foil hat has not been very efficient for me.
srsly. who'da thunk, we'd see a journolist, with admittance of lying to the public by 400 members.
.

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 01:39 PM (SbsTp)

222 Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 01:18 PM

Actually, what Ed "Pillsbury Doughboy" Morrissey said over at Tepid Air is "...if the government had any role in this...."

The rest was, as usual, parroting what other people had to say, though thankfully neither the "Generalissimo" or "The Boss Emeritus" apparently haven't weighed in on this. Yet.

The last time "Captain Ed" wrote a true declarative sentence, he was pimping his radio show or some tape he made at a conservative geekfest somewhere.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 30, 2010 01:43 PM (Ulu3i)

223 JEA, get back on your liberal page. you are not allowed to admit the economy is tanking. as to the rest. remember your first part of comment and what you've been hearing for last 2 years,
JEA said:What I'd really like to know is how the Republicans are planning on paying for these cuts if they're continued. I'm not buying the 'they'll pay for themselves' argument
and who's in power now ? and for last 3 1/2 years, isn't it Your Guyz job to figure it out?
whose cuts dems or reps,? we are the tax hikers now remember,
man o man

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 01:48 PM (SbsTp)

224 JEA, you "pay" for it just like in real life. If you take a pay cut or lose your job you don't run out and buy that new $50k Beemer or the 900k house. You don't spend money you don't have on "health care Reform" or give ACORN 8 billion for community organizing. In other words you don't piss it away on crap you can't afford.
I've seen three major tax cuts in my life. First Kennedy and the late 60's were good times. Reagan's tax cuts almost doubled the revenue to the treasury, but the dems pissed it away on crap we didn't need. Bush's cuts also raised revenues but guess who overspent it (hint: it wasn't Bush all by himself). Worry less about "paying for it and more where it goes.

Posted by: bigred at July 30, 2010 01:52 PM (uh7Ap)

225 What I'd really like to know is how the Republicans are planning on
paying for these cuts if they're continued. I'm not buying the 'they'll
pay for themselves' argument.

I suggest you think in terms of at a pie chart of taxes collected by the Federal Government. If you collect more taxes from individuals, which causes them to have less disposable income to spend which causes business to tailspin and they send less to the government, what have you accomplished? The pie doesn't get any bigger.

Posted by: Downsized Upscale at July 30, 2010 01:56 PM (IhHdM)

226 Um, Steny, are you absolutely sure it doesn't hurt when you say something stupid?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 30, 2010 01:58 PM (i3AsK)

227 Downsized, if everybody demands a bigger piece of the pie without helping to bake it, eventually you end up with an empty pie dish. We're about there. Democrats are lousy cooks.

Posted by: bigred at July 30, 2010 02:02 PM (uh7Ap)

228 Feels like 1994 again.
IIRC, that's when the Democrats repealed the evil Republican welfare state.

Posted by: RayJ at July 30, 2010 02:11 PM (//Bcg)

229 So it's safe here now to posit those wacky conspiratorial thoughts?
'Cause I'm about to explode.
Posted by: dum blond at July 30, 2010 01:08 PM (gbCNS)
I wasn't talking in terms of the adminstration having intentionally blown the rig, or anything, but that their rush to put out the fire (which could have been allowed to burn for some time) was what sunk the rig. It is, after all, the water poured on the rig that sealed its fate.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 30, 2010 02:16 PM (5TNVe)

230 Steny, that playbook you're reading from? Look inside the front cover.
It says ACME Publications, doesn't it.

Posted by: Firley Ferrod at July 30, 2010 02:26 PM (N7uu0)

231 Out damned Firley sock!

Posted by: sherlock at July 30, 2010 02:28 PM (N7uu0)

232 I'm not familiar with Hoyer's district. Is there any chance of sending this douchebag packing to his 7-figure job as a lobbyist in November?

Posted by: Reiver at July 30, 2010 02:38 PM (rQ7j5)

233 You owe me on Acme Mk IV Mod 7 Bullshit Meter. This one just exploded.
You should have ordered the Goebells option which includes a logarithmic scale.

Posted by: Schwalbe at July 30, 2010 02:50 PM (UU0OF)

234
Now I think you gentleman in RD should be
working on the "Now let me be perfectly clear" fix for the Mark IX so
hopefully we'll be able to produce one that doesn't go up like a roman
candle, rather than wasting your time posting on blogs and chasing hot
russian spies.Posted by: W.E. Coyote - CEO, ACME Products at July 30, 2010 01:02 PM (e8T35)

I think if your RD department would do an internet search for "electrical fuses" that would solve about 99% of your exploding device problems.

Posted by: John Crichton and his Obscure Sci-Fi Memes at July 30, 2010 03:22 PM (bxiXv)

235 26
OT but I just read something very interesting on the NRO Corner that I
was not aware of.CS Lewis and Aldous Huxley died on the same day as JFK.

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2010 11:40 AM (xDFPB)
Natch! They waz da guys on da grassy knoll and da CIA had to off them, too! Da truf, I tell ya, da truf!

Posted by: Ollie Stone at July 30, 2010 03:43 PM (yRrAd)

236 We have no intention of allowing the Republican tax increase — that
their policies would lead to — to go into effect for working Americans.
Period,” he said. “We’re going to act and make sure that the Republican
phase out and increase in taxes does not end as they provided for in
the laws they passed.

Set sentence parsers on "WTF?"!

Posted by: Strunk & White at July 30, 2010 04:01 PM (yRrAd)

237 @19: "Hey asshole moderate Republicans,see how your Democrat "friends" repay for voting with them?"
You seem to think that this is a bug. It's a feature.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at July 30, 2010 04:04 PM (ySNz/)

238 Why were the Bush cuts temporary?

They were temporary because the legislation passed as a reconciliation bill because the Senate could not get the 60 votes required for cloture under the normal process. A reconciliation bill can only impact revenues out to 10 years. So it HAD to expire after 10 years.

The Republicans tried many times to make the cuts permanent but they Senate Democrats wouldn't get on board. To frame this as somehow the Republicans increasing the tax is a lie. It is because rules dictate that reconciliation bills can only last for 10 years and the Democrats blocked the standard process.

Posted by: crosspatch at July 30, 2010 05:29 PM (ZbLJZ)

239 Guess the Kerry yacht story and the Biden Ultimate Patriot Principle show that Kerry was not a patriot before he was.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at July 30, 2010 06:05 PM (qwK3S)

240 There are no such thing as the "Bush tax cuts." Bush did not "cut taxes." There is no "accepted standard tax rate" for him to use as a base for "cutting." He simply reset tax rates to a lower level. Therefore the Dems are planning to raise taxes, not "eliminate Bush's ill-considered tax cuts."
Maybe it's nit-picking, but it bugs me to hear the MFM and the liberals push the "tax cuts" thing. It makes it sound somehow more reasonable for them to raise taxes because they'ye not, y'know, "raising taxes." They're just letting "tax cuts expire."

Posted by: Nemo from Erewhon at July 30, 2010 07:55 PM (zg7tZ)

241
171

More like the kid who killed his parents, got caught red-handed while
chopping them to bits, then blamed his neighbor for the murder while
also claiming that he was trying perform CPR.

Or trying to put them back together. "And you STOPPED me!"

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