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Global Warming Strikes Again!
FIFTEEN INCHES of snow reported in Winterset this morning. I just turned on the front porch light, and the drifts have taken over our whole front yard.
Now I'm not saying that this is an epic blizzard, but the pack of wolves rampaging down our street hunting for unlucky morons who dare go out in the elements are all wearing little knitted booties on their paws. I was promised Global Warming. Where is it?Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: AmishDude at December 09, 2009 07:50 AM (ItSLQ)
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Yes,i remember it is very cold in the winter when i was chind,but now it is very warm.
Posted by: Laptop-battery at December 09, 2009 07:50 AM (SzS3k)
Posted by: Michael Mann at December 09, 2009 07:50 AM (SwkdU)
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15 inches? Hah.
Try 3 inches at -22deg F. I love my new job.
Try 3 inches at -22deg F. I love my new job.
Posted by: Fritz at December 09, 2009 07:53 AM (GwPRU)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson -Renaissance Man at December 09, 2009 07:55 AM (jyEfB)
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Global warming? Never heard of it. Sorry had to
Posted by: Scott at December 09, 2009 07:55 AM (EvIp4)
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Clearly, these blizzards are caused by global warming. But if there weren't any blizzards, that would be caused by global warming too.
Posted by: Global Warming Advocate at December 09, 2009 07:55 AM (TpXEI)
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Hope Ace is in better mood today. He had me sitting in corner rocking back and fourth repeating to myself this can not be this can not be
Hope Ace is in better mood today. He had me sitting in corner rocking back and fourth repeating to myself this can not be this can not be
Posted by: Scott at December 09, 2009 08:00 AM (EvIp4)
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Global Warming Advocate summarizes the Science! perfectly.
Posted by: Old Sailor at December 09, 2009 08:00 AM (/Ft4q)
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The Iowa National Guard uses Humvees to rescue stranded motorists.
Comitting an eco-crime to rescue humans endangered by nature! I love it!
Comitting an eco-crime to rescue humans endangered by nature! I love it!
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 09, 2009 08:01 AM (OkT2m)
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That's a lot of Wintershit, Russ.
Posted by: Dan Collins at December 09, 2009 08:02 AM (XTREl)
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And an iceberg twice the size of Sidney Harbor is headed for Australia.
Posted by: twitter.com/lheal at December 09, 2009 08:04 AM (NNLn+)
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Here in SE Minnesota, I woke up to about 18 inches, with a stiff 30-40MPH wind blowing it around. My front door is blocked halfway up; I'll have to tunnel out. Oh, and the temp? -3F straight temp, -30F with wind-chill. Fun times.
Posted by: Monty at December 09, 2009 08:04 AM (ifAMf)
Posted by: Monty at December 09, 2009 08:05 AM (ifAMf)
Posted by: albert al algore gore jr. enterprises at December 09, 2009 08:07 AM (dCpk3)
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Thank you, Monty. I was confused at this hour 'cause I woke-up to 0" and was alarmed.
Posted by: Old Sailor at December 09, 2009 08:07 AM (/Ft4q)
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God or Gaia...fate has a huge sense of humor with the watermelon cult's timing....
who are you gonna believe Chicago Je$u$ or your shivering ass?
who are you gonna believe Chicago Je$u$ or your shivering ass?
Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 08:08 AM (dCpk3)
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Winter. Bleh.
Posted by: Mortis at December 09, 2009 08:09 AM (hA5JK)
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heard on the news that although people may have a hard time believing it, this was in fact one of the warmest years ever.............
Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 09, 2009 08:11 AM (ucxC/)
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Well, you're not from Summerset. Or Somerset, NJ, for that mattter. We're getting my favorite weather, 36 and downpour, high winds. Bah.
I blame Big Bootie.
I blame Big Bootie.
Posted by: Johnny I at December 09, 2009 08:13 AM (JQNiP)
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we have had the wettest Oct/Nov/Dec that I can remember here in So. Central Va. So there is no warming.
The "warmers" were on TV lying again last night. (my husband accidentally turned on one of the networks).
The "warmers" were on TV lying again last night. (my husband accidentally turned on one of the networks).
Posted by: kelley in virginia at December 09, 2009 08:13 AM (TEIZr)
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where was it that it was the hottest summer on record? the equator? not here in Virginia. Not at the North Pole. (well, Virginia is the only place that matters obviously!)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at December 09, 2009 08:14 AM (TEIZr)
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I heard the equator is nice this time of year.
Posted by: Johnny I at December 09, 2009 08:16 AM (JQNiP)
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I just cleared off12 inches of global warming from my driveway and it's still coming down. Winds will pick up today and it will get down to -5 F tonight. I'm just north of Iowa City. I work at the University of Iowa and it's closed today. They rarely close.
Damn that global warming!
Damn that global warming!
Posted by: marmo at December 09, 2009 08:18 AM (Tm9Vp)
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I was promised Global Warming. Where is it?
LOL, today it is in SC. Supposed to get to 72°F here today. Problem is that it is storming like hell. We are getting a thunderstorm right now and there is a tornado watch out.
But tomorrow supposed to get 27°F. And to all you porr folks living up there in the North, there is a reason that when I sent out resumes after I got out of the Navy that none went to a location any higher than Southern Tennessee.
In addition none went to any area with a city larger than 15,000 people.
LOL, today it is in SC. Supposed to get to 72°F here today. Problem is that it is storming like hell. We are getting a thunderstorm right now and there is a tornado watch out.
But tomorrow supposed to get 27°F. And to all you porr folks living up there in the North, there is a reason that when I sent out resumes after I got out of the Navy that none went to a location any higher than Southern Tennessee.
In addition none went to any area with a city larger than 15,000 people.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 08:19 AM (CDUiN)
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Four inches of global warming in north Jersey this morning but then the climate changed to torrential downpours and flooding.
Who do I send the check to offset my carbon emissions?
Who do I send the check to offset my carbon emissions?
Posted by: JWF at December 09, 2009 08:20 AM (1l37M)
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vic, are you sending those storms up here?
Posted by: kelley in virginia at December 09, 2009 08:23 AM (TEIZr)
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@ 25 Myrtle and Clemson. Big fan of the SC--I can't see the Empire State Building across the river here w/the weather.
Posted by: Johnny I at December 09, 2009 08:24 AM (JQNiP)
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The thing that I find funny is that the U.N. crooks are saying that even though the U.S. is experiencing cooler than normal weather, the rest of the world is heating up.
They like to push that crap out there when there are only two places that have an accurate temp monitoring system, the U.S. and Europe. So where are they getting this data for the "rest" of the world? It comes from that magic tree that absolutely refutes all of the real world data that was collected.
The same thing goes for NASA. Markey on TV yesterday lying his ass off. He maintained the climaquidick emails mean nothing because NASA shows heating. Evidently the stupid cockholster didn't read that NASA's chief source for their fraud was also implicated in the emails.
They like to push that crap out there when there are only two places that have an accurate temp monitoring system, the U.S. and Europe. So where are they getting this data for the "rest" of the world? It comes from that magic tree that absolutely refutes all of the real world data that was collected.
The same thing goes for NASA. Markey on TV yesterday lying his ass off. He maintained the climaquidick emails mean nothing because NASA shows heating. Evidently the stupid cockholster didn't read that NASA's chief source for their fraud was also implicated in the emails.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 08:25 AM (CDUiN)
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I just realized that what they are shooting for in Coping Ha Gen is a return to 1870 levels of CO2 by 2050....
We're doomed the Radical islamist wants us to party like it is 899, and the Democrats want to undo the industrial revolution....
We're doomed the Radical islamist wants us to party like it is 899, and the Democrats want to undo the industrial revolution....
Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 08:25 AM (dCpk3)
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I must admit that Phoenix had one of the hottest summers ever recorded. But c'mon, it's Phoenix. I'm guessin' there were hotter ones way back when, but there ain't no tree rings around here to make stuff up about. Currently 43 outside, and clear.
Posted by: 141 Driver at December 09, 2009 08:25 AM (JFNQ7)
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vic, are you sending those storms up here?
I wish I was that all powerful! If I was there would be no AGW debate in congress and no Bambi in the WH.
vic, are you sending those storms up here?
I wish I was that all powerful! If I was there would be no AGW debate in congress and no Bambi in the WH.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 08:26 AM (CDUiN)
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Gaia Worship-the earnest belief that poprocks(or the components therein)are a bigger threat to mankind than doing away with refrigeration.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 08:27 AM (dCpk3)
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31,
It's 54 degrees here in Columbia SC with rain....
which is just about what the weather is for "norm" here....or the conspiracy by big oil to misinform folks goes back to the mid 1700s when people took measure of their world.
It's 54 degrees here in Columbia SC with rain....
which is just about what the weather is for "norm" here....or the conspiracy by big oil to misinform folks goes back to the mid 1700s when people took measure of their world.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 08:29 AM (dCpk3)
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Myrtle and Clemson. Big fan of the SC--I can't see the Empire State Building across the river here w/the weather.
LOL, a denizen of "the city". I spent the winter of 71/72 in Saratoga Springs, NY. Also the winter of 70/71 in North Chicago.
That is why I sent those resumes to only Southern places. I grew to hate that white crap that fell out of the sky and caused me to have to spend an hour every morning digging out my car while working 12 hours a day. Also messed up and dug out the wrong car one morning.
LOL, a denizen of "the city". I spent the winter of 71/72 in Saratoga Springs, NY. Also the winter of 70/71 in North Chicago.
That is why I sent those resumes to only Southern places. I grew to hate that white crap that fell out of the sky and caused me to have to spend an hour every morning digging out my car while working 12 hours a day. Also messed up and dug out the wrong car one morning.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 08:31 AM (CDUiN)
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I'm guessing 4-5 inches here now with bonus sleet/ice on top of it. I told work, nicely, that I'd get there when I get there.
And as far as hottest year, around here this was known as the year without a summer.
And as far as hottest year, around here this was known as the year without a summer.
Posted by: alexthechick at December 09, 2009 08:31 AM (XIO/8)
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We had a nice dump of frozen warming here in central Maryland last night. Thanks, Al Gore!
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at December 09, 2009 08:33 AM (j6H6o)
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"And as far as hottest year, around here this was known as the year without a summer"
Ah, but let me run the temp data thru the Magic Machine. Numbers go in round round round and come out...
well, depends on who's writing the bigger check. Currently the grant $ is on warming, so that's what you'll get.
Heh.
Ah, but let me run the temp data thru the Magic Machine. Numbers go in round round round and come out...
well, depends on who's writing the bigger check. Currently the grant $ is on warming, so that's what you'll get.
Heh.
Posted by: Jess at December 09, 2009 08:33 AM (Ths7h)
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The science is settled! Over two hundred million scientists have lent their names to the reality that is global warming!
New York City just went under water!
There are like, two polar bears left.
My next door neighbor just starved to death after days of violent revolution and crop failure!
Why do you post your KKKonservative lies?
New York City just went under water!
There are like, two polar bears left.
My next door neighbor just starved to death after days of violent revolution and crop failure!
Why do you post your KKKonservative lies?
Posted by: Def Leppard at December 09, 2009 08:36 AM (hIOnV)
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Hey Wingnuts, it's CLIMATE CHANGE!!! If it is hot, it's because you gaia rapers are using too much energy. If it's cold and snowy, it's because you insensitive right wing Bushitlers are burning too many fossil fuels! Get with the program!
Posted by: Barking moonbat lefty at December 09, 2009 08:38 AM (oQIfB)
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Heavy snow, a foot so far but will continue until 5 pm. Only 7:35 am here now in Green Bay.
Should be like last winter, snow cover almost the entire winter. Last several winters here in WI have been harsh. Reminds me of late 70s.
Should be like last winter, snow cover almost the entire winter. Last several winters here in WI have been harsh. Reminds me of late 70s.
Posted by: Blindgoose at December 09, 2009 08:39 AM (hZOQ8)
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Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 08:29 AM (dCpk3)
I think, way back then, it was Big Whale Oil. But, point taken.
I think, way back then, it was Big Whale Oil. But, point taken.
Posted by: 141 Driver at December 09, 2009 08:39 AM (JFNQ7)
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That storm came through on Monday here in Nevada and left behind -13F global warming. My jeep does not like -13 and neither do I. Coldest temps in 10 years come on where is the warming?
Posted by: RobD at December 09, 2009 08:40 AM (wGIVf)
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Yeah, I've loving this global "still haven't put up my Christmas lights because I can't go outside without losing feeling in my fingers and I only found my gloves yesterday" warming business. We don't have snow and the temps are hovering around 40 Farenheit, but it's wet and there's a straight-line wind that'll take your breath away. Yay, Indiana!
Posted by: Joanna at December 09, 2009 08:40 AM (gJQTg)
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And as far as hottest year, around here this was known as the year without a summer.
Good morning Alex. Same here. This has been the coldest summer that I can recall since moving here in 1977.
In any case, last year about this time over one of those slow posting weekend days I did an experiment for local mean temperatures and found that the monthly averages for Oct and Nov were about 2.5°F lower that the numbers during the same months 10 years earlier. I published that and several Morons from different places all over the country did the same thing for their areas. They ALL came out lower than the previous 10 year numbers. The NW in the Seattle area had the largest drop with a 5°F average lower temp.
Of course those numbers haven't been "normalized" by NASA or NOAA.
Good morning Alex. Same here. This has been the coldest summer that I can recall since moving here in 1977.
In any case, last year about this time over one of those slow posting weekend days I did an experiment for local mean temperatures and found that the monthly averages for Oct and Nov were about 2.5°F lower that the numbers during the same months 10 years earlier. I published that and several Morons from different places all over the country did the same thing for their areas. They ALL came out lower than the previous 10 year numbers. The NW in the Seattle area had the largest drop with a 5°F average lower temp.
Of course those numbers haven't been "normalized" by NASA or NOAA.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 08:41 AM (CDUiN)
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We had a few inches of global warming here in Baltimore this weekend too. It never snows here in early December (except for the past few extremely hot years).
Posted by: Hedgehog at December 09, 2009 08:41 AM (oQIfB)
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I hear ya, Russ. I live in Cedar Rapids, IA. Driveway with no snowblower. My lower back is killing me.
Posted by: brando at December 09, 2009 08:41 AM (LjEkE)
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The AGW crowd has just moved on to "Climate Change." Basically all weather belongs to their religion now. That's so much more convenient than having to prove a scientific reality that makes sense.
All hail Climate Change! Now let's engage in some human sacrifice!
All hail Climate Change! Now let's engage in some human sacrifice!
Posted by: Jade Sea at December 09, 2009 08:43 AM (f2QL0)
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47 Brando,
the pain in your pwoer back is going to move down to your ass after Copeing Ha Gen is done with you.....
the pain in your pwoer back is going to move down to your ass after Copeing Ha Gen is done with you.....
Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 08:44 AM (dCpk3)
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Sarah has an Op-Ed about global warming today. Says Obama should shun Copenhagen. That it is a farce.
Sarah has an Op-Ed about global warming today. Says Obama should shun Copenhagen. That it is a farce.
Posted by: fightobama at December 09, 2009 08:46 AM (6IV8T)
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Whenever I hear the term "Global Warming" my mind just locks the door and goes elsewhere. Too many lies. Too many agendas. Too much politics. Too much a tool of the global socialist coalition.
Posted by: maddogg at December 09, 2009 08:47 AM (OlN4e)
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Vic--was SPAC around then? Saw shows there early 90s when at school in western NY. Gotta love the lake effect. Nobody tells you that when it's not snowing, it's raining. And 36". Also, more cloudy days than Seattle. Why didn't I take the scholarship to UMiami?
Posted by: Johnny I at December 09, 2009 08:48 AM (JQNiP)
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I was promised Global Warming. Where is it?
See that powdered white shit? that is your global warming, bunkie. Enjoy shovelling it. And be thankful you didn't get more of it. Besides, shouldn't you be shooting the wolves?
See that powdered white shit? that is your global warming, bunkie. Enjoy shovelling it. And be thankful you didn't get more of it. Besides, shouldn't you be shooting the wolves?
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 09, 2009 08:51 AM (1hM1d)
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At least five deaths were blamed on the weather, including an Arizona hunter who was killed Monday night when a large pine tree snapped and crushed him as he slept in a tent.
At least the Darwin awards are still applicable.
I'd like to see a huge blizzard hit Coop-en-hown
At least the Darwin awards are still applicable.
I'd like to see a huge blizzard hit Coop-en-hown
Posted by: dagny at December 09, 2009 08:52 AM (B/wKD)
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This is the nub. Vast swathes of the US, Europe and Australasia were cool to chilly to record-breakingly cold this year. And yet, we kept being told that the global temperature anomaly was positive, and that such and such a month was one of the hottest ever, and that the year as a whole was in the top 5 warmest on record. Why? Because all that cold weather in the parts of the world where, you know, people live, was counterbalanced by relatively warmer weather somewhere in teh middle of nowhere in Siberia or Svalbaard or places like that.
If populous industrialized countries spend the year 5'C colder than usual, while Svalbaard heats up from -40'C to a terrific -25'C (numbers pulled from my ass, because I can't be bothered looking them up), that's a pretty pathetic type of global warming.
If populous industrialized countries spend the year 5'C colder than usual, while Svalbaard heats up from -40'C to a terrific -25'C (numbers pulled from my ass, because I can't be bothered looking them up), that's a pretty pathetic type of global warming.
Posted by: Botec at December 09, 2009 08:52 AM (wlcfA)
Posted by: franksalterego at December 09, 2009 08:53 AM (GKyIE)
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If a tree snaps in AZ, do you hear it crush you?
Posted by: Johnny I at December 09, 2009 08:56 AM (JQNiP)
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" Because all that cold weather in the parts of the world where, you know, people live, was counterbalanced by relatively warmer weather somewhere in teh middle of nowhere in Siberia or Svalbaard or places like that"
Not to put too fine a point on it, but no. There was no increase in real measurements - only in "adjusted" temps. See WUWT for the latest breaking scandal...
Not to put too fine a point on it, but no. There was no increase in real measurements - only in "adjusted" temps. See WUWT for the latest breaking scandal...
Posted by: Jess at December 09, 2009 08:56 AM (Ths7h)
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was SPAC around then?
LOL, had to "Bing" SPAC because didn't recognize that acronym. I don't think it was around then but I could be wrong. We worked 12 hour shifts for 7 days/wk then got a couple of days off. Those couple of days were usually dedicated to drinking cheap beer and whiskey.
Went to a few bars there trying to hit on the Skidmore girls to no avail. That was about it for night life in good old Saratoga.
LOL, had to "Bing" SPAC because didn't recognize that acronym. I don't think it was around then but I could be wrong. We worked 12 hour shifts for 7 days/wk then got a couple of days off. Those couple of days were usually dedicated to drinking cheap beer and whiskey.
Went to a few bars there trying to hit on the Skidmore girls to no avail. That was about it for night life in good old Saratoga.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 08:57 AM (CDUiN)
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First of all, doesn't it seem a tad convenient to say that the earth was hotter in places where NOBODY IS? We're supposed to buy that? Yeah, you may have been colder but we have a thermometer being read by a marxist in asia that says something else.
The medieval warming period produced so much more food than before that the population exploded leading to the plague, rise of cities, end of feudalism,crusades, etc.
I don't believe it's warming,I don't believe that if it is warming (which it isn't) it's man-made, AND I don't believe that if it's warming and man made (which it isn't) that it's a bad thing. It's probably a good thing especially in those areas that grow food instead of sand.
The medieval warming period produced so much more food than before that the population exploded leading to the plague, rise of cities, end of feudalism,crusades, etc.
I don't believe it's warming,I don't believe that if it is warming (which it isn't) it's man-made, AND I don't believe that if it's warming and man made (which it isn't) that it's a bad thing. It's probably a good thing especially in those areas that grow food instead of sand.
Posted by: dagny at December 09, 2009 08:59 AM (B/wKD)
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Pouring rain here (2 inches per hour expected) after snow last night. Major slush on roadways, with flooding likely. 43 F at present, can live with the temp but could do without the 40 mph winds.
Apropos of Vic's comment about cool summers, this summer was the coolest around here for the past several years. Not a single day above 88, and we usually have about 10 days over 90 in an average summer.
Apropos of Vic's comment about cool summers, this summer was the coolest around here for the past several years. Not a single day above 88, and we usually have about 10 days over 90 in an average summer.
Posted by: PA Cat at December 09, 2009 09:00 AM (fG7wd)
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this post proves something I've been thinking: we Morons would like an early a.m. post(not left over from the ON group) that is earlier than the Top Headlines post (which I really enjoy).
Posted by: kelley in virginia at December 09, 2009 09:01 AM (TEIZr)
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only in "adjusted" temps
And the temps are adjusted how? With a "marx-o-meter"?.
And the temps are adjusted how? With a "marx-o-meter"?.
Posted by: dagny at December 09, 2009 09:02 AM (B/wKD)
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Shoot the wolves? You ever tried to eat a wolf? You'd be better off eating all the "toaster shakings" instead.
No, the wolves and I have a little agreement. We peacefully co-occupy the top of the food chain.
No, the wolves and I have a little agreement. We peacefully co-occupy the top of the food chain.
Posted by: Russ from Winterset at December 09, 2009 09:03 AM (7n7Br)
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But wait, the UN says that 2009 was one of the hottest years EVAH!!
Of course the old media reports it on cue.
http://tinyurl.com/ycyxw9b
Of course the old media reports it on cue.
http://tinyurl.com/ycyxw9b
Posted by: Hedgehog at December 09, 2009 09:04 AM (oQIfB)
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Well Kelly, the banhammer thread is still going strong as well this morning.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 09:04 AM (CDUiN)
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My patriotism is being radiation-cooled and carbon-warmed. I'm good, Franksalterego.
Posted by: Old Sailor at December 09, 2009 09:04 AM (/Ft4q)
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Great, they are predicting snow again in the DC area for Sat night. It hasn't really snowed here for the last 5 years so my just 18 year old doesn't believe it will and thinks he should be out driving in it. He has never driven in it and these roads are some of the most dangerous anywhere when they are clear, dry, and lit because of the local idiocy levels much less in the snow. Since he believes he should be at every party, this is going to cause another huge fight. Makes me wish I had eaten him as a baby...
Posted by: dagny at December 09, 2009 09:07 AM (B/wKD)
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Russ,
Know the feeling - have three and four foot drifts in my backyard this morning. I tried to call AlGore so he could help me shovel but he's too busy cashing checks.
Bastard.
Murph (in a very snowy Nevada)
Know the feeling - have three and four foot drifts in my backyard this morning. I tried to call AlGore so he could help me shovel but he's too busy cashing checks.
Bastard.
Murph (in a very snowy Nevada)
Posted by: Murph at December 09, 2009 09:08 AM (Cxwf3)
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Don't worry about all of the snow and freezing temperatures. Algore will write a poem about it and make everything all better.
Posted by: TheQuietman at December 09, 2009 09:08 AM (1Jaio)
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70 Since we have to be extremely careful with what we say, do you find Al Gore's poetry writing sorta of, um, well, gee, uh, not "rugged"?
Posted by: dagny at December 09, 2009 09:12 AM (B/wKD)
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Also messed up and dug out the wrong car one morning.
Ah, Vic that is seriously messed up.
Well, my husband just left for his second day of attempted travel. How's the weather in Ohio?? Sunny and warm, right?
Ah, Vic that is seriously messed up.
Well, my husband just left for his second day of attempted travel. How's the weather in Ohio?? Sunny and warm, right?
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 09, 2009 09:13 AM (Be4xl)
Posted by: Kevin at December 09, 2009 09:14 AM (U+6RC)
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Monty, we're getting pouring rain here and I was about to complain until I read your post. Bitter temperatures and Franken too. Tough.
Posted by: RM at December 09, 2009 09:15 AM (GkYyh)
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#60,
"First of all, doesn't it seem a tad convenient to say that the earth was hotter in places where NOBODY IS"
There's more truth there than you know. For example, today's Washington Post has a top of the fold/A1 story on Climate Change in Australia. It's 100% false, but since so few know which end is up in Oz, the story gets legs.
I was involved w/a similar WaPo hitpiece last year when they A1'd a story on the previous winter being "completely snow free" in parts of Eastern Europe. I emailed photos I had taken the 1st week of Jan that year in Budapest, Bratislava, and a few other towns cities (some showing over 1.5 meters snow)
The then ombudsman replied to me that my photos were "unvetted" and therefore "questionable".
They're not interested in either "truth" or "reality".
"First of all, doesn't it seem a tad convenient to say that the earth was hotter in places where NOBODY IS"
There's more truth there than you know. For example, today's Washington Post has a top of the fold/A1 story on Climate Change in Australia. It's 100% false, but since so few know which end is up in Oz, the story gets legs.
I was involved w/a similar WaPo hitpiece last year when they A1'd a story on the previous winter being "completely snow free" in parts of Eastern Europe. I emailed photos I had taken the 1st week of Jan that year in Budapest, Bratislava, and a few other towns cities (some showing over 1.5 meters snow)
The then ombudsman replied to me that my photos were "unvetted" and therefore "questionable".
They're not interested in either "truth" or "reality".
Posted by: Jess at December 09, 2009 09:15 AM (Ths7h)
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15 inches here in Des Moines. Would've been worse if not for global warming, so I guess that proves it's true. Or something like that.
Posted by: Diver at December 09, 2009 09:16 AM (5ec5i)
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Yes,i remember it is very cold in the winter when i was chind,but now it is very warm.
Bejeezers...laptop battery guy is a believer!!
Bejeezers...laptop battery guy is a believer!!
Posted by: dananjcon at December 09, 2009 09:17 AM (pr+up)
78
Dagny, my sons are grown - but I know what you mean about 18 year-old
bravado. I took mine out on Seattle's snowy hills and taught them. So, take him out on D.C.'s "rugged' hills and teach him!
bravado. I took mine out on Seattle's snowy hills and taught them. So, take him out on D.C.'s "rugged' hills and teach him!
Posted by: Old Sailor at December 09, 2009 09:17 AM (/Ft4q)
79
Dagny, all the best to your boy--it's not easy living in the dangerous transition zone. It snows oftenenough that people have some experience driving in it, but not good experience driving in it.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 09, 2009 09:17 AM (DPM1U)
80
70 Since we have to be extremely careful with what we say, do you find Al Gore's poetry writing sorta of, um, well, gee, uh, not "rugged"?
Posted by: dagny at December 09, 2009 09:12 AM (B/wKD)
Are you trying to say that Algore's poetry is as masculine as Obama's throwing?
Posted by: dagny at December 09, 2009 09:12 AM (B/wKD)
Are you trying to say that Algore's poetry is as masculine as Obama's throwing?
Posted by: TheQuietman at December 09, 2009 09:18 AM (1Jaio)
81
Ah, Vic that is seriously messed up.
Well, my husband just left for his second day of attempted travel. How's the weather in Ohio?? Sunny and warm, right?
You would have to see how it snows in upstate NY, especially that year. On the typical morning all you saw in the parking lot of the apartment that I lived in were snow covered humps. You would find "your" hump, brush snow off the fenders and look at it, seeing the correct color you commenced digging. After I got it dug out, I brushed the snow off the driver's side door and got my key in it only to find the door would not open. Clearing the glass I saw that it wasn't my car but it was the same shape and color.
As for Ohio, I wouldn't know. It has been a few years since I have been there. I am in SC. And it is warm and rainy here.
Well, my husband just left for his second day of attempted travel. How's the weather in Ohio?? Sunny and warm, right?
You would have to see how it snows in upstate NY, especially that year. On the typical morning all you saw in the parking lot of the apartment that I lived in were snow covered humps. You would find "your" hump, brush snow off the fenders and look at it, seeing the correct color you commenced digging. After I got it dug out, I brushed the snow off the driver's side door and got my key in it only to find the door would not open. Clearing the glass I saw that it wasn't my car but it was the same shape and color.
As for Ohio, I wouldn't know. It has been a few years since I have been there. I am in SC. And it is warm and rainy here.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 09:18 AM (CDUiN)
82
My next door neighbor just starved to death after days of violent revolution and crop failure!
*snicker*
*snicker*
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 09, 2009 09:18 AM (NtiET)
83
Vic--those were the days-.05 wings, $2 pitchers $1.50 doubles. I can't get a cup of coffee for that now. The girl I dated's father had TURFRACE on his license plate--they were from the tri-city area. Lol
Kelley--I just got off self induced vampire hours, and agree. ONT gets funky if you leave it lying around.
Kelley--I just got off self induced vampire hours, and agree. ONT gets funky if you leave it lying around.
Posted by: Johnny I at December 09, 2009 09:18 AM (JQNiP)
84
The Gorebal "Warming" ended up in Milwaukee, where, thanks to Lake Michigan keeping things warm, it rained between 1 am and 6 am, breaking up the snow into two batches.
To the west and north of my bunker, however, it's a "slightly" different story. They got what you got - wet and heavy snow all night long.
To the west and north of my bunker, however, it's a "slightly" different story. They got what you got - wet and heavy snow all night long.
Posted by: steveegg at December 09, 2009 09:20 AM (UGOcx)
85
Damn. The forecast had been for the temps to go up to the 50s and 60s, but now it's changed to all 40s and rain. Bummer. The kids are going to be bouncing off the walls.
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 09, 2009 09:20 AM (Be4xl)
86
Hey, got some of the source code used to justify the claims of Global warming. A guy going by AvgDude over on American Thinker posted it:
GlobalWarmingScam() {
Do While(Suckers > 0);
ClaimWorldEnding(Soon);
if PeerObjects > 0
then Call PeerDenier;
else
if BetterAlternativeTheories > 0
then Call AGWSettledScience;
else
if ProofOfFraudFound
then Call DoubleDownOnStupid;
End;
TakeTheMoneyAndRun(147000000000000)
}
GlobalWarmingScam() {
Do While(Suckers > 0);
ClaimWorldEnding(Soon);
if PeerObjects > 0
then Call PeerDenier;
else
if BetterAlternativeTheories > 0
then Call AGWSettledScience;
else
if ProofOfFraudFound
then Call DoubleDownOnStupid;
End;
TakeTheMoneyAndRun(147000000000000)
}
Posted by: buster mcdissenter at December 09, 2009 09:22 AM (zN9bC)
87
I just realized that what they are shooting for in Coping Ha Gen is a return to 1870 levels of CO2 by 2050....
We're doomed the Radical islamist wants us to party like it is 899, and the Democrats want to undo the industrial revolution....
7th Century, 17th Century - what's the difference? They'll likely split the difference with the 12th Century (say, isn't that the heart of the Black Plague era?)
We're doomed the Radical islamist wants us to party like it is 899, and the Democrats want to undo the industrial revolution....
7th Century, 17th Century - what's the difference? They'll likely split the difference with the 12th Century (say, isn't that the heart of the Black Plague era?)
Posted by: steveegg at December 09, 2009 09:23 AM (UGOcx)
88
Yeah, we got it. Hubby is out breaking in the new snowblower so the dogs can get out to pee! Though I'm one of the few who can get to work today, as I'm only about 2 miles away from the mall, I'll probably get a call to stay home because nobody is out shopping.
Posted by: katya at December 09, 2009 09:30 AM (nj49s)
89
With the publication of damaging e-mails from a climate research center in Britain, the radical environmental movement appears to face a tipping point. The revelation of appalling actions by so-called climate change experts allows the American public to finally understand the concerns so many of us have articulated on this issue.
Climate-gate,” as the e-mails and other documents from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia have become known, exposes a highly politicized scientific circle — the same circle whose work underlies efforts at the Copenhagen climate change conference. The agenda-driven policies being pushed in Copenhagen won’t change the weather, but they would change our economy for the worse.
The e-mails reveal that leading climate “experts” deliberately destroyed records, manipulated data to “hide the decline” in global temperatures, and tried to silence their critics by preventing them from publishing in peer-reviewed journals. What’s more, the documents show that there was no real consensus even within the CRU crowd. Some scientists had strong doubts about the accuracy of estimates of temperatures from centuries ago, estimates used to back claims that more recent temperatures are rising at an alarming rate.This scandal obviously calls into question the proposals being pushed in Copenhagen. I’ve always believed that policy should be based on sound science, not politics. As governor of Alaska, I took a stand against politicized science when I sued the federal government over its decision to list the polar bear as an endangered species despite the fact that the polar bear population had more than doubled. I got clobbered for my actions by radical environmentalists nationwide, but I stood by my view that adding a healthy species to the endangered list under the guise of “climate change impacts” was an abuse of the Endangered Species Act. This would have irreversibly hurt both Alaska’s economy and the nation’s, while also reducing opportunities for responsible development.
Our representatives in Copenhagen should remember that good environmental policymaking is about weighing real-world costs and benefits — not pursuing a political agenda. That’s not to say I deny the reality of some changes in climate — far from it. I saw the impact of changing weather patterns firsthand while serving as governor of our only Arctic state. I was one of the first governors to create a subcabinet to deal specifically with the issue and to recommend common-sense policies to respond to the coastal erosion, thawing permafrost and retreating sea ice that affect Alaska’s communities and infrastructure.
But while we recognize the occurrence of these natural, cyclical environmental trends, we can’t say with assurance that man’s activities cause weather changes. We can say, however, that any potential benefits of proposed emissions reduction policies are far outweighed by their economic costs. And those costs are real. Unlike the proposals China and India offered prior to Copenhagen — which actually allow them to increase their emissions — President Obama’s proposal calls for serious cuts in our own long-term carbon emissions. Meeting such targets would require Congress to pass its cap-and-tax plans, which will result in job losses and higher energy costs (as Obama admitted during the campaign). That’s not exactly what most Americans are hoping for these days. And as public opposition continues to stall Congress’s cap-and-tax legislation, Environmental Protection Agency bureaucrats plan to regulate carbon emissions themselves, doing an end run around the American people.
In fact, we’re not the only nation whose people are questioning climate change schemes. In the European Union, energy prices skyrocketed after it began a cap-and-tax program. Meanwhile, Australia’s Parliament recently defeated a cap-and-tax bill. Surely other nations will follow suit, particularly as the climate e-mail scandal continues to unfold.
In his inaugural address, President Obama declared his intention to “restore science to its rightful place.” But instead of staying home from Copenhagen and sending a message that the United States will not be a party to fraudulent scientific practices, the president has upped the ante. He plans to fly in at the climax of the conference in hopes of sealing a “deal.” Whatever deal he gets, it will be no deal for the American people. What Obama really hopes to bring home from Copenhagen is more pressure to pass the Democrats’ cap-and-tax proposal. This is a political move. The last thing America needs is misguided legislation that will raise taxes and cost jobs — particularly when the push for such legislation rests on agenda-driven science.
Without trustworthy science and with so much at stake, Americans should be wary about what comes out of this politicized conference. The president should boycott Copenhagen.
The writer was the 2008 Republican nominee for vice president and governor of Alaska from 2006 to 2009.
Climate-gate,” as the e-mails and other documents from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia have become known, exposes a highly politicized scientific circle — the same circle whose work underlies efforts at the Copenhagen climate change conference. The agenda-driven policies being pushed in Copenhagen won’t change the weather, but they would change our economy for the worse.
The e-mails reveal that leading climate “experts” deliberately destroyed records, manipulated data to “hide the decline” in global temperatures, and tried to silence their critics by preventing them from publishing in peer-reviewed journals. What’s more, the documents show that there was no real consensus even within the CRU crowd. Some scientists had strong doubts about the accuracy of estimates of temperatures from centuries ago, estimates used to back claims that more recent temperatures are rising at an alarming rate.This scandal obviously calls into question the proposals being pushed in Copenhagen. I’ve always believed that policy should be based on sound science, not politics. As governor of Alaska, I took a stand against politicized science when I sued the federal government over its decision to list the polar bear as an endangered species despite the fact that the polar bear population had more than doubled. I got clobbered for my actions by radical environmentalists nationwide, but I stood by my view that adding a healthy species to the endangered list under the guise of “climate change impacts” was an abuse of the Endangered Species Act. This would have irreversibly hurt both Alaska’s economy and the nation’s, while also reducing opportunities for responsible development.
Our representatives in Copenhagen should remember that good environmental policymaking is about weighing real-world costs and benefits — not pursuing a political agenda. That’s not to say I deny the reality of some changes in climate — far from it. I saw the impact of changing weather patterns firsthand while serving as governor of our only Arctic state. I was one of the first governors to create a subcabinet to deal specifically with the issue and to recommend common-sense policies to respond to the coastal erosion, thawing permafrost and retreating sea ice that affect Alaska’s communities and infrastructure.
But while we recognize the occurrence of these natural, cyclical environmental trends, we can’t say with assurance that man’s activities cause weather changes. We can say, however, that any potential benefits of proposed emissions reduction policies are far outweighed by their economic costs. And those costs are real. Unlike the proposals China and India offered prior to Copenhagen — which actually allow them to increase their emissions — President Obama’s proposal calls for serious cuts in our own long-term carbon emissions. Meeting such targets would require Congress to pass its cap-and-tax plans, which will result in job losses and higher energy costs (as Obama admitted during the campaign). That’s not exactly what most Americans are hoping for these days. And as public opposition continues to stall Congress’s cap-and-tax legislation, Environmental Protection Agency bureaucrats plan to regulate carbon emissions themselves, doing an end run around the American people.
In fact, we’re not the only nation whose people are questioning climate change schemes. In the European Union, energy prices skyrocketed after it began a cap-and-tax program. Meanwhile, Australia’s Parliament recently defeated a cap-and-tax bill. Surely other nations will follow suit, particularly as the climate e-mail scandal continues to unfold.
In his inaugural address, President Obama declared his intention to “restore science to its rightful place.” But instead of staying home from Copenhagen and sending a message that the United States will not be a party to fraudulent scientific practices, the president has upped the ante. He plans to fly in at the climax of the conference in hopes of sealing a “deal.” Whatever deal he gets, it will be no deal for the American people. What Obama really hopes to bring home from Copenhagen is more pressure to pass the Democrats’ cap-and-tax proposal. This is a political move. The last thing America needs is misguided legislation that will raise taxes and cost jobs — particularly when the push for such legislation rests on agenda-driven science.
Without trustworthy science and with so much at stake, Americans should be wary about what comes out of this politicized conference. The president should boycott Copenhagen.
The writer was the 2008 Republican nominee for vice president and governor of Alaska from 2006 to 2009.
Posted by: unseen at December 09, 2009 09:30 AM (aVGmX)
90
I just realized that what they are shooting for in Coping Ha Gen is a return to 1870 levels of CO2 by 2050....
Actually they are mostly upset that the "powers" have decided that with a major recession in progress that the citizens will not stomach sending huge sums of money to third world dictators.
This conference could be a good thing. If these third world asshats get too po'd they could start ratting them all out and exposing the fraud on a scale that the media simply can not ignore.
After all, if they are not getting their cut, why should the big ears get his cut.
Actually they are mostly upset that the "powers" have decided that with a major recession in progress that the citizens will not stomach sending huge sums of money to third world dictators.
This conference could be a good thing. If these third world asshats get too po'd they could start ratting them all out and exposing the fraud on a scale that the media simply can not ignore.
After all, if they are not getting their cut, why should the big ears get his cut.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 09:30 AM (CDUiN)
91
They'll likely split the difference with the 12th Century (say, isn't that the heart of the Black Plague era?)
At least the coming Ice Age will tamp down on that a bit.
At least the coming Ice Age will tamp down on that a bit.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 09, 2009 09:32 AM (NtiET)
92
90 Vic,
I agree but figure the way the Goreons will prevent that is with the 10 billion per annum of Hush money that will have no oversight....
Al Wa-Po(the Washington Post) et al will not report negatively on the scam...
Gore could be caught dry-humping a dead penguin wearing a polar bear pelt and they'd hush it up.
I agree but figure the way the Goreons will prevent that is with the 10 billion per annum of Hush money that will have no oversight....
Al Wa-Po(the Washington Post) et al will not report negatively on the scam...
Gore could be caught dry-humping a dead penguin wearing a polar bear pelt and they'd hush it up.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 09:33 AM (dCpk3)
93
Well Kelly, the banhammer thread is still going strong as well this morning.
What's it up to now?
What's it up to now?
Posted by: katya at December 09, 2009 09:34 AM (nj49s)
94
Russ, marmo and brando....I know exactly what you all mean. I think they should change the name of my Iowa town from North Liberty to North Pole when I look out my window.
I have no idea how much snow we got, but I know that when my big ol' German shepherd mix couldn't hold it any longer and had to go out last night, it was up to her armpits. She loves cold weather, and it's normally hard to get her back inside when she goes out to play in the snow, but I swear she had a look on her face that said, "Oh fuck!!!! What is this shit???" when she came back inside (in record time).
Stay safe, guys!
I have no idea how much snow we got, but I know that when my big ol' German shepherd mix couldn't hold it any longer and had to go out last night, it was up to her armpits. She loves cold weather, and it's normally hard to get her back inside when she goes out to play in the snow, but I swear she had a look on her face that said, "Oh fuck!!!! What is this shit???" when she came back inside (in record time).
Stay safe, guys!
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at December 09, 2009 09:35 AM (KWhJd)
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 09:36 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 09:36 AM (dCpk3)
97
Uh, respectfully, major cold snow in Iowa in December is expected; it's not like a place on the margin that would first lose snow due to warming; we are talking Iowa, here, no? Lets keep the debate honest so they can't call BS on us.
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 09, 2009 09:37 AM (cd0d9)
98
It looks like the deal now is to see who can post last.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 09:37 AM (CDUiN)
99
it's not like a place on the margin that would first lose snow due to warming
Where would that be?
Where would that be?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 09, 2009 09:38 AM (NtiET)
100
Why do the normally very PR and image savvy Global Warming types have their events in December?
Posted by: Jean at December 09, 2009 09:39 AM (pIKTP)
101
No, no, no! You were promised "Climate Change". We altered the deal. Pray we don't alter it any further...
Posted by: Darth Mann at December 09, 2009 09:39 AM (pKjhR)
102
99 HR--Houston? Oh...right.
Posted by: Johnny I at December 09, 2009 09:41 AM (JQNiP)
103
Why do the normally very PR and image savvy Global Warming types have their events in December?
They have them at two distinct times of the year. Mid summer and mid winter. The idea is to get someone else to pay for their vacation plans. You don't think that all those idiots going to Cop-hagan-daz paid for all those jets themselves do you?
It is just another part of the scam.
They have them at two distinct times of the year. Mid summer and mid winter. The idea is to get someone else to pay for their vacation plans. You don't think that all those idiots going to Cop-hagan-daz paid for all those jets themselves do you?
It is just another part of the scam.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 09:41 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: Deathknyte at December 09, 2009 09:42 AM (mczIS)
105
97 PP,
yeah let's keep the debate honest....
the contention is that man through his original sin of technology has caused "global warming" the window necessary for snow is 32 degrees or so with the normal atmospheric conditions that lead to that ground condition....
now we had several mild winters back home in Ohio that "proved" "abrupt climate change" but when those same areas experience their "weather norm" it is evidence that the "global" warming took a detour and decided to hide 200 degrees or so of heat increase in the geological equivalent of a "backyard".....
actually that kind of nails it....
the warmists are asking us to believe that the US is somehow colder but the Gobi is warmer because that's why and for proof they use the equivalent of taking a city block's temperature readings off the guy who has a bonfire raging in his backyard's place....
yeah let's keep the debate honest....
the contention is that man through his original sin of technology has caused "global warming" the window necessary for snow is 32 degrees or so with the normal atmospheric conditions that lead to that ground condition....
now we had several mild winters back home in Ohio that "proved" "abrupt climate change" but when those same areas experience their "weather norm" it is evidence that the "global" warming took a detour and decided to hide 200 degrees or so of heat increase in the geological equivalent of a "backyard".....
actually that kind of nails it....
the warmists are asking us to believe that the US is somehow colder but the Gobi is warmer because that's why and for proof they use the equivalent of taking a city block's temperature readings off the guy who has a bonfire raging in his backyard's place....
Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 09:42 AM (dCpk3)
Posted by: Reiver at December 09, 2009 09:43 AM (Yi1Sk)
107
Wow, it quit raining and the sun came out...briefly. It is 56.7°F now.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 09:43 AM (CDUiN)
108
" major cold snow in Iowa in December is expected"
Nope. Dec. is usually the lowest precip month of the year. Snow, certainly. Major blizzard 1st week of Dec? Not so much.
Nope. Dec. is usually the lowest precip month of the year. Snow, certainly. Major blizzard 1st week of Dec? Not so much.
Posted by: Jess at December 09, 2009 09:44 AM (Ths7h)
109
100 Jean--the lack of holidays for the Church of Gaia. Work function!
Posted by: Johnny I at December 09, 2009 09:45 AM (JQNiP)
110
99, etc., my point is that Iowa is "normally" cold in winter, and not just hovering around 32degreesF, so conceivably it could be warmer now than it would otherwise be, but still well below freezing.
I'm not saying this is true; simply that "heavy snow in December in Iowa" is not dispositive of climate change.
Sorry for being serious, but I'm a stickler for ilogic.
I'm not saying this is true; simply that "heavy snow in December in Iowa" is not dispositive of climate change.
Sorry for being serious, but I'm a stickler for ilogic.
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 09, 2009 09:47 AM (cd0d9)
111
The Des Moines Greenie-Marxist Register reports that this storm will be one of the "five heaviest" December storms in white man's history, and certainly the most December one-shot snowfall since 1940.
(Wasn't 1940 was the beginning of a three-decade cooling period, until the warming earlier in the 20th century got "normalized" away?)
(Wasn't 1940 was the beginning of a three-decade cooling period, until the warming earlier in the 20th century got "normalized" away?)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 09, 2009 09:50 AM (NtiET)
112
Are you going to believe me, or your lying eyes and snow tires?
Posted by: Michael Piltdown Mann at December 09, 2009 09:50 AM (bgcml)
113
Don't forget the inch and a half of global warming that fell in Houston on Saturday. First snow there that early since 1815, I saw on the news.
I flew back in on Sunday night, it was still a cold and foggy mess.
I flew back in on Sunday night, it was still a cold and foggy mess.
Posted by: SGT Dan at December 09, 2009 09:51 AM (GgXZc)
114
ParisParamus--you didn't answer my question.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 09, 2009 09:52 AM (NtiET)
115
Are you going to believe me, or your lying eyes and snow tires?
Posted by: Michael Piltdown Mann at December 09, 2009 09:50 AM (bgcml)
Michael, let's remember to ban mention of snow from all periodicals. The damn denialists keep using the fact that it is colder now then it was to argue against it being warmer. I mean, here we are trying to do science, and they keep trying to test our theories with data. Who do they think they are?
Posted by: Michael Piltdown Mann at December 09, 2009 09:50 AM (bgcml)
Michael, let's remember to ban mention of snow from all periodicals. The damn denialists keep using the fact that it is colder now then it was to argue against it being warmer. I mean, here we are trying to do science, and they keep trying to test our theories with data. Who do they think they are?
Posted by: Phil Jones at December 09, 2009 09:52 AM (bgcml)
116
Can't compete with the tales of 1 foot+ snow, but waking up to 1/2 inch of slush covering everything was also a nasty surprise. Here in southern Michigan we're told that a big blizzard in on its way to cover and freeze over all the mushy stuff, providing a lovely blanket of thick snow over an ice sheet. Driving in to work tomorrow should be a great time (/sarc).
Posted by: Reactionary at December 09, 2009 09:56 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Jess at December 09, 2009 09:57 AM (Ths7h)
118
HeatherRadish, I'd go with Houston, or New York; or some other place in the South. My point is simply not to float "false negatives" that can be picked-apart in/by the media.
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 09, 2009 09:58 AM (cd0d9)
Posted by: lincolntf at December 09, 2009 09:59 AM (EJAGr)
120
(and, unfortunately, it's 47 degrees and raining in NYC, which proves nothing, but also disproves nothing...)
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 09, 2009 09:59 AM (cd0d9)
121
What's it up to now?Around 2250 last I checked.
Is Ace still there or was he able to make it out?
Is Ace still there or was he able to make it out?
Posted by: katya at December 09, 2009 10:01 AM (nj49s)
122
#118, I first wrote illogic, which was flagged as misspelled, then ilogic, which wasn't flagged, although now it is...
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 09, 2009 10:01 AM (cd0d9)
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 10:03 AM (CDUiN)
124
You know, Palin's OpEd on Climategate today in the WaPo will probably do more to bring that scandal to light than much of the media coverage of the last three weeks. All she has to do is mention something and it's THE BIG TOPIC.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Posted by: Def Leppard at December 09, 2009 10:03 AM (hIOnV)
125
#123,
Why can't you admit that a major Blizzard the 1st week of Dec. in that region is a very, very rare event (at least in the past century 1/2)?
Ever been to Iowa?
Why can't you admit that a major Blizzard the 1st week of Dec. in that region is a very, very rare event (at least in the past century 1/2)?
Ever been to Iowa?
Posted by: Jess at December 09, 2009 10:04 AM (Ths7h)
126
Head of EPA is telling cop-n-hagan-daz that the EPA will give them the needed regulations.
We will use "common sense" she says. hahahahahaha
Where are the Republicans?
We will use "common sense" she says. hahahahahaha
Where are the Republicans?
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 10:10 AM (CDUiN)
127
No snow day here, just bitter cold. -11F this morning. Is the public saying liars, damn liars and climate scientists yet?
Posted by: paleRider at December 09, 2009 10:12 AM (bLMew)
128
LOL, head of the Sudan delegation bitching because they are only getting 10B/yr from the scam rather than trillions they deserve.
10B is a pittance he says.
Like I said, maybe this whole thing will blow up.
10B is a pittance he says.
Like I said, maybe this whole thing will blow up.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 10:12 AM (CDUiN)
129
#126, I hope you are correct, but if it is, the "reasoning" I used, even if incorrect seems to plausibly pick it apart. Not trying to be a dick; just point out arguable flaws--THIS NEEDS TO BE A MEDIA WAR WE WIN.
(Imagine Stephen Colbert [who I watched for the first time last night; a smart, wisdom-free guy, imho] saying what I just did...that's what I'm afraid of...)
(Imagine Stephen Colbert [who I watched for the first time last night; a smart, wisdom-free guy, imho] saying what I just did...that's what I'm afraid of...)
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 09, 2009 10:12 AM (cd0d9)
130
Average temp for Des Moines for today; 35 hi, 19 low; today's prediction 15/-3. I would say that they are significantly below the average.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 10:15 AM (CDUiN)
131
I wouldn't expect to see Ace until late this afternoon.
Posted by: Jean at December 09, 2009 10:15 AM (5ddCw)
132
126 ~ Jess
We're in flyover country, so I'm guessing....no.
I mean, it's just been reported as the worst storm in what, 20 to 30 years? No big deal, we oughta be used to it. Just like PP would ignore the fact that we enjoyed a toasty July and August this year (why, I think it hit 70 a coupla times, didn't it? It was a nice break from all those 60's highs and let me put my light jacket away for a few days), or last winter we had that long streak of temps hovering around -40 before the wind chill kicked in.
Forget about the floods about two years ago following another year of heavy snow. I don't think that made the news out there, because there weren't any fake reports of cannibalism in Cedar Rapids or Des Moines from Anderson Cooper/Shep Smith to sex it up.
Yep, nothing to see here, it's all flukes, move along please....it's still getting warmer in the Gobi Desert and Bangladesh needs the international climate change tax money more than anyone else and that's all that matters.
Besides, Iowa....Idaho....Ohio....all those states with too many vowels are pretty much all alike, right?
We're in flyover country, so I'm guessing....no.
I mean, it's just been reported as the worst storm in what, 20 to 30 years? No big deal, we oughta be used to it. Just like PP would ignore the fact that we enjoyed a toasty July and August this year (why, I think it hit 70 a coupla times, didn't it? It was a nice break from all those 60's highs and let me put my light jacket away for a few days), or last winter we had that long streak of temps hovering around -40 before the wind chill kicked in.
Forget about the floods about two years ago following another year of heavy snow. I don't think that made the news out there, because there weren't any fake reports of cannibalism in Cedar Rapids or Des Moines from Anderson Cooper/Shep Smith to sex it up.
Yep, nothing to see here, it's all flukes, move along please....it's still getting warmer in the Gobi Desert and Bangladesh needs the international climate change tax money more than anyone else and that's all that matters.
Besides, Iowa....Idaho....Ohio....all those states with too many vowels are pretty much all alike, right?
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at December 09, 2009 10:15 AM (KWhJd)
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Back when I first got my driver's license, my Dad would take me out to a big, empty parking lot on a day like this and have me practice getting into and out of skids all day long. It was freaking fun!
Posted by: Beppo at December 09, 2009 10:16 AM (CvvEA)
134
Are we allowed to make '15 inches' jokes?
Posted by: john holmes at December 09, 2009 10:21 AM (2qU2d)
135
bigpinkfluffybunny, I'm not sure why you don't get that I'm on your side, but...
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 09, 2009 10:22 AM (cd0d9)
136
BC, PP, you aren't making a very good showing of it...
If you're thinking that most people on the coasts would say "no big deal, doesn't always snow in Iowa?", then you're probably correct.
So what? Reality is a b***ch. It's a rare event. Can't help it that some are stupid.
If you're thinking that most people on the coasts would say "no big deal, doesn't always snow in Iowa?", then you're probably correct.
So what? Reality is a b***ch. It's a rare event. Can't help it that some are stupid.
Posted by: Jess at December 09, 2009 10:28 AM (Ths7h)
137
Where I live (upper peninsula of Michigan) we are notorious for heavy snow. Lots and lots of it. But this storm (18 inches so far) is lots more snow than we usually get . Our yearly total is 175 inches, or there abouts, but the snowacumulates between November and May-so even for us, this is unusual. In fact, we rarely get school snow days-they only cancel school for extreme temperatures (usually -7 and below) but today is a snow day.
Where I live (upper peninsula of Michigan) we are notorious for heavy snow. Lots and lots of it. But this storm (18 inches so far) is lots more snow than we usually get . Our yearly total is 175 inches, or there abouts, but the snowacumulates between November and May-so even for us, this is unusual. In fact, we rarely get school snow days-they only cancel school for extreme temperatures (usually -7 and below) but today is a snow day.
Posted by: fightobama at December 09, 2009 10:32 AM (6IV8T)
138
I can't believe this shit. Fox is reporting that the Bambi adm is saying the EPA announcement is a warning to congress. They are blaming the supreme court for the EPA ruling saying that the ruling is forcing them to issue the regulations.
And the media, including Fox, is not disputing this obvious lie.
And the media, including Fox, is not disputing this obvious lie.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 10:34 AM (CDUiN)
139
#137, if reality, rather than perception of reality didn't matter, then (1) Obama wouldn't be President; and (2) climate change believers would have the prestige of those who follow Lyndon Larouche.
So, please think again.
So, please think again.
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 09, 2009 10:35 AM (cd0d9)
140
#139
The other day I heard several democrat pundits explain (with straight faces) that the economy will not get fixed without the health care bill passing. I honestly don't know how they didn't at least smirk.
The other day I heard several democrat pundits explain (with straight faces) that the economy will not get fixed without the health care bill passing. I honestly don't know how they didn't at least smirk.
Posted by: fightobama at December 09, 2009 10:38 AM (6IV8T)
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First I got a call from the shift manager to see if I could be at work at 10 because she can't get out. I said I couldn't until the snow plows got around here. Then she called back to tell me that only 3 stores at the mall were going to open today so not to bother to come in.
More funemployment for me!
More funemployment for me!
Posted by: katya at December 09, 2009 10:39 AM (tZ1He)
142
Whoa. Reverse that [and get some coffee, me]: perception of reality matters; and even FoxNews is based in NYC...
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 09, 2009 10:40 AM (cd0d9)
143
Here in sunny SO. CA. it's 40 degrees and I have my heat on. May sound p um wussy. but it's cold for here. Have frost in the early morning. AGW where are you? I don't like cold weather.
Posted by: Jayne on the left coast at December 09, 2009 10:40 AM (37UTE)
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I think i can see Russia from my back porch. Here in Calgary, the wind chill went to -30 C. Poor rottie cano nearly froze his ----- off. We need the snow pack for the Olympics in Feb.
One of our gold medal hopes for the downhill just had a career ending injury. Poor kid.
Vancouver is now starting to brag about the Winter Games,after many Calgarians showed them how to organize.
I'm telling the Canuck fans that their hockey team is like the Titanic. They look great till they hit the ice.
Now i gotta build courage to shovel the walks.
One of our gold medal hopes for the downhill just had a career ending injury. Poor kid.
Vancouver is now starting to brag about the Winter Games,after many Calgarians showed them how to organize.
I'm telling the Canuck fans that their hockey team is like the Titanic. They look great till they hit the ice.
Now i gotta build courage to shovel the walks.
Posted by: chicocano at December 09, 2009 10:41 AM (2n5cq)
145
The other day I heard several democrat pundits explain (with straight faces) that the economy will not get fixed without the health care bill passing. I honestly don't know how they didn't at least smirk.
They must practice in front of mirrors.
They must practice in front of mirrors.
Posted by: katya at December 09, 2009 10:43 AM (tZ1He)
146
Here in north central Oklahoma, the high today is supposed to be around 21.
The average LOW for today is 29.
You do the math.
(Oh, and it was also mid-teens this morning with a steady 15-20 mph wind. Good times!)
The average LOW for today is 29.
You do the math.
(Oh, and it was also mid-teens this morning with a steady 15-20 mph wind. Good times!)
Posted by: Chris at December 09, 2009 10:43 AM (SiJV8)
147
Looks like I'm not the only moron from Columbia, SC reading this blog every once in awhile. Global Warming getting you down? No worries, our government is on the case....we're in the very best of hands.
Posted by: Bluedog at December 09, 2009 10:44 AM (8afBt)
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Instead of reporting that there is no warming this decade, they headline that this is the warmest decade.
But we have no confidence that they are not still using contrived numbers, such as the Arizona stunt of averaging an inaccurate city measurement (influenced by increased pavements) with the accurate rural one. All we know is that their contrived data continues to report higher numbers.
Gaia has kindly warmed the chilly world and removed glaciers from Illinois. She is now being angered by her pseudo worshipers who take her name in vain, and who are trying to cool earth and take over her job. I burned a tire in defiance of the Gore proselytes, and gave thanks to Gaia for the long term warming trend.
She smiled on that, and sent the snow just north of me to Iowa.
Praise Mother Gaia.
But we have no confidence that they are not still using contrived numbers, such as the Arizona stunt of averaging an inaccurate city measurement (influenced by increased pavements) with the accurate rural one. All we know is that their contrived data continues to report higher numbers.
Gaia has kindly warmed the chilly world and removed glaciers from Illinois. She is now being angered by her pseudo worshipers who take her name in vain, and who are trying to cool earth and take over her job. I burned a tire in defiance of the Gore proselytes, and gave thanks to Gaia for the long term warming trend.
She smiled on that, and sent the snow just north of me to Iowa.
Praise Mother Gaia.
Posted by: bill at December 09, 2009 10:46 AM (nUbAO)
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148 BlueDog,
What I find amusing as a long-term visitor is the touching ability of the State(Columbia's democratic alternative to wait a sec there is no other paper) to call for Sanford's head while ignoring the Baucus story....
What I find amusing as a long-term visitor is the touching ability of the State(Columbia's democratic alternative to wait a sec there is no other paper) to call for Sanford's head while ignoring the Baucus story....
Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 10:47 AM (dCpk3)
150
The other day I heard several democrat pundits
explain (with straight faces) that the economy will not get fixed
without the health care bill passing. I honestly don't know how they
didn't at least smirk.
Posted by: fightobama at December 09, 2009 10:38 AM (6IV8T)
Well, it depends on what there definition of fixed is, doesn't it.
If fixed means reducing unemployment and raising real wages, then indeed, Obamacare will NOT fix the economy.If fixed means setting up a technocratic structure where loyalty to the government party is the primary means of career advancement and a large body of people are kept on the government dole to ensure the election of government party hacks, then oh yes, Obamcare will indeed fix the economy very well.
explain (with straight faces) that the economy will not get fixed
without the health care bill passing. I honestly don't know how they
didn't at least smirk.
Posted by: fightobama at December 09, 2009 10:38 AM (6IV8T)
Well, it depends on what there definition of fixed is, doesn't it.
If fixed means reducing unemployment and raising real wages, then indeed, Obamacare will NOT fix the economy.If fixed means setting up a technocratic structure where loyalty to the government party is the primary means of career advancement and a large body of people are kept on the government dole to ensure the election of government party hacks, then oh yes, Obamcare will indeed fix the economy very well.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 09, 2009 10:51 AM (bgcml)
151
Here in sunny SO. CA. it's 40 degrees and I have my heat on.
I talked to a friend of mine from the old days who lives up near Sacramento yesterday. She said it was snowing there (about noon CA time).
I talked to a friend of mine from the old days who lives up near Sacramento yesterday. She said it was snowing there (about noon CA time).
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 10:54 AM (CDUiN)
152
What I find amusing as a long-term visitor is the touching ability of
the State(Columbia's democratic alternative to wait a sec there is no
other paper) to call for Sanford's head while ignoring the Baucus
story....
I used to get that paper, mainly at my wife's bidding. It got to where I just could not stand it any more. They are nothing more than a PR rag for the Democrat Party. I told them that when I cancelled my subscription. Also, the local paper in my small town was bought out by the outfit in Florence. It turned in to a PR rag for the Democrat Party. I canceled them as well.
We currently have no papers left that are not rags for the Dems now.
the State(Columbia's democratic alternative to wait a sec there is no
other paper) to call for Sanford's head while ignoring the Baucus
story....
I used to get that paper, mainly at my wife's bidding. It got to where I just could not stand it any more. They are nothing more than a PR rag for the Democrat Party. I told them that when I cancelled my subscription. Also, the local paper in my small town was bought out by the outfit in Florence. It turned in to a PR rag for the Democrat Party. I canceled them as well.
We currently have no papers left that are not rags for the Dems now.
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 10:56 AM (CDUiN)
153
its 68 and clear here in hawaii and i am freezing!!
or is this a bad time to mention this?
oh, and what is this snow stuff you all are talking about?
or is this a bad time to mention this?
oh, and what is this snow stuff you all are talking about?
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 09, 2009 11:00 AM (fq1BL)
Posted by: eman at December 09, 2009 11:02 AM (KFoFM)
Posted by: eman at December 09, 2009 11:03 AM (KFoFM)
156
Temp has dropped about 8 degrees since I got to work, it's 48 outside. The great thing about the global-warming caused snow last friday was that it froze long enough to kill most of the mosquitos.
Temp has dropped about 8 degrees since I got to work, it's 48 outside. The great thing about the global-warming caused snow last friday was that it froze long enough to kill most of the mosquitos.
Posted by: Dang Straights at December 09, 2009 11:04 AM (Haq+B)
157
153 Vic,
You should try reading the Myrtle Beach Sun News....it is so partisan donk it'd make Rahm Emannuelle blush
You should try reading the Myrtle Beach Sun News....it is so partisan donk it'd make Rahm Emannuelle blush
Posted by: sven10077 at December 09, 2009 11:05 AM (dCpk3)
158
damn it, they are saying a high of 80 today, how am i supposed to work on my tan?!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 09, 2009 11:05 AM (fq1BL)
159
navycopjoe, I say this from the bottom of my heart.....screw you. 
Enjoy the sunshine, you lucky bastid!
(Starts searching monster.com listings for jobs in Hawaii...)
Enjoy the sunshine, you lucky bastid!
(Starts searching monster.com listings for jobs in Hawaii...)
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at December 09, 2009 11:11 AM (KWhJd)
160
now come on, i remember snow, hell i'm from chicago
granted its been a while since i've seen it cough 85' cough
granted its been a while since i've seen it cough 85' cough
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 09, 2009 11:14 AM (fq1BL)
161
11 degrees here. Every day this year I look at the weather and the warmest days in history are always in the 1930's.
But remember when O said you can't eat all you want or have your house at the temperature you would like because the other nations just wouldn't stand for it?
Bow down.
But remember when O said you can't eat all you want or have your house at the temperature you would like because the other nations just wouldn't stand for it?
Bow down.
Posted by: kansas at December 09, 2009 11:34 AM (mka2b)
162
5 degrees with 5" on the ground here
Posted by: torabora at December 09, 2009 11:34 AM (6/BJr)
163
It is now 67°F with the sun shining here now. I can feel a porch rocker day coming on!
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 11:34 AM (CDUiN)
164
Flagstaff AZ had 20 in. of snow yesterday. Highest one day snowfall on record. We here in Alpine, AZ had 18 in. I'm out on my deck basking in the glow of the sunshine reflecting off the 18 in. of climate change.
Posted by: buffalobob at December 09, 2009 11:50 AM (Bi7qs)
165
Approaching 71°F now. Feel that chair calling!
Posted by: Vic at December 09, 2009 12:14 PM (CDUiN)
166
My brother-in-law took my oldest to work. She was one of 3 people who made it in to Sears today. As they were going into the store, a guy was coming out with a snow blower. She'll probably make some money today (they work for commission).
Posted by: katya at December 09, 2009 12:54 PM (t+Dxj)
167
Around 80 in Palm Beach today. Rough winter.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 09, 2009 01:11 PM (kbYWE)
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buffalobob, I'm from AZ and I don't remember snowfalls like that up north. The guys running Snowbowl are probably the only happy ones in that part of the world.
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at December 09, 2009 01:16 PM (KWhJd)
169
oh. winterset, iowa. i thought winterset was some nerdy d&d thing you made up. like russ from narnia. now i see that it is more like dave in tx.
Posted by: Contributor X at December 09, 2009 01:17 PM (IhX2x)
170
Record cold in Seattle yesterday and today. It was 6 degrees when I woke up this morning. The high is supposed to be in the teens.
Posted by: Patrick H at December 09, 2009 01:19 PM (o5cb9)
171
As a self-respecting descendant of Dirty Skandis, I drove home from work faster than anyone else on the road, then shoveled my driveway the old fashioned way. 6+ inches of slop.
34F with light rain.
34F with light rain.
Posted by: fluffy at December 09, 2009 01:21 PM (4Kl5M)
172
Just because we use daily weather events to "prove" a long term trend doesn't mean that you people can.
Posted by: AGW Cultist at December 09, 2009 01:24 PM (SPSOE)
173
Why do the normally very PR and image savvy Global Warming types have their events in December?
Posted by: Jean at December 09, 2009 09:39 AM (pIKTP)
I was wondering that too.
Remember how much traction Al Gore got by testifying in the summer with the A/C turned off?
Someone should turn off the heat (or turn on the A/D) in Copenhagen. It would be funny to see pictures all the delegates sitting around in parkas.
Posted by: Jean at December 09, 2009 09:39 AM (pIKTP)
I was wondering that too.
Remember how much traction Al Gore got by testifying in the summer with the A/C turned off?
Someone should turn off the heat (or turn on the A/D) in Copenhagen. It would be funny to see pictures all the delegates sitting around in parkas.
Posted by: Che Pizza at December 09, 2009 01:28 PM (SPSOE)
Posted by: Che Pizza's Evil Twin at December 09, 2009 01:30 PM (SPSOE)
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University of Wisconsin-Madison is closed. Nineteen inches of snow, more coming down, and the blizzard conditions are just starting to kick in. High tomorrow is eight degrees, wind chill will take it to -20 to -25 degrees.
Posted by: Popcorn at December 09, 2009 01:35 PM (OOehk)
176
oh. winterset, iowa. i thought winterset was some nerdy dd thing you made up. like russ from narnia. now i see that it is more like dave in tx.
Winterset is approx. 90 miles from Waterloo so we're practically neighbors.
Winterset is approx. 90 miles from Waterloo so we're practically neighbors.
Posted by: katya at December 09, 2009 01:38 PM (t+Dxj)
177
Please be advised that we discarded the phrase "global warming" some time ago. These days we prefer to talk about "climate change". Has your climate changed? It sounds like it to me!
Posted by: AlGore at December 09, 2009 01:55 PM (K2phO)
178
University of Wisconsin-Madison is closed.
Posted by: Popcorn at December 09, 2009 01:35 PM (OOehk)
Well the blizzard is good for something.
Posted by: Popcorn at December 09, 2009 01:35 PM (OOehk)
Well the blizzard is good for something.
Posted by: TheQuietman at December 09, 2009 02:10 PM (1Jaio)
179
I was promised Global Warming. Where is it?
Answer: Shhhh!!!! We are hiding the decline. How can you do this with fifteen inches of snow on your yard? Simple. Think like a liberal - ask yourself is that really snow or a product of the VRWC. Blame Bush, and then put on you swim suit and jump into your pool. When you get pneumonia, never fear, the democrats have passed the public option so that you can go to the local hospital for free care. Hint, you must speak spanish.
Answer: Shhhh!!!! We are hiding the decline. How can you do this with fifteen inches of snow on your yard? Simple. Think like a liberal - ask yourself is that really snow or a product of the VRWC. Blame Bush, and then put on you swim suit and jump into your pool. When you get pneumonia, never fear, the democrats have passed the public option so that you can go to the local hospital for free care. Hint, you must speak spanish.
Posted by: Carmelita at December 09, 2009 02:36 PM (gq1Fx)
180
its always hee-larious when you pretend you don't understand the difference between weather and climate. You are kidding right, you do understand that those words aren't synonyms (that means words that mean the same thing), right?
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The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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