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THE MORNING RANT - Another Generation of Solyndras: Government Subsidized “Clean Fuel” Startups Are Failing

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Do you remember Solyndra, the “green energy” company which received over half a billion dollars from President Obama’s “American Recovery and Reinvestment Act” in 2009? Solyndra was going to revolutionize the solar panel manufacturing industry. Of course, there was abundant fraud, both on the company’s application and in the government’s awarding of all that tax money. Solyndra went bankrupt and ceased operations barely two years later, leaving 1,100 employees out of work.

Unsurprisingly, a whole new generation of Solyndras popped up in recent years, promising to develop various new forms of “clean energy” for which there is not a market, especially not at the price it would take to develop the product. Fortunately for these start-ups, we have very credulous people in government willing to dole out taxpayer money whenever the words “clean energy” are spoken. Plus, a great many investors are easily duped into throwing money at “revolutionary” new energy sources.

But no matter how much money is thrown at these ventures, there is generally no pathway to profit when competing against fossil fuels.

A recent Wall Street Journal article comically laments the supposed impact to the climate from all these failing green energy projects, but it also gives an excellent rundown on the extensive number of these ventures that are failing.

“Clean-Fuel Startups Were Supposed to Be the Next Big Thing, Now They Are Collapsing; Hydrogen and biofuel projects have become money pits” [WSJ – 8/18/2024]

Startups promising to power planes, ships and trucks with clean fuel are sputtering before they get off the ground, showing how hard it will be to wean many industries off oil and gas.

The widely-accepted belief that industries need to be “weaned off oil and gas” is destructively wrong. Just because a religious cult has chosen petroleum to serve the role of its Satan-figure is no reason for the rest of us to acquiesce to their decivilizational jihad.

A company backed by United Airlines that raised hundreds of millions of dollars to turn trash into jet fuel appears to have shut down. Another, backed by Airbus, JetBlue and GE Aerospace, that was working on using hydrogen to power planes went bust. Chevron, BP and Shell, meanwhile, are scaling back projects to make biofuels from cooking fats, oils, greases and plant material.

If these prominent corporations and their woke CEOs decided to invest in a new line of perpetual motion machines, it wouldn’t be any more laughable than the “clean energy” investments into which they flushed away their shareholders’ cash. Don’t ever think a corner office in the C-suites is indicative of an executive’s intelligence.

“The excitement of the early days has not lived up to the hype,” said Andy Marsh, chief executive of Plug Power, a startup that recently opened one of the country’s first plants making green hydrogen, a potential replacement for fossil fuels in industries such as steel making and chemical production. Shares of Plug Power have tumbled more than 90% since the passage of the U.S. climate law two years ago. Shares of biofuels startup Gevo, where Marsh is a board member, are down about 80% in that span.

The shares of these companies have collapsed because there is a lack of revenue, and therefore a lack of profits. Without actual customers buying their products, the critical source of cash for these companies is taxpayer subsidies.

LanzaJet will soon start production at a Georgia plant, one of the first for sustainable aviation fuel in the U.S. Construction ended up being a lot more expensive than the company expected. The company’s fuel, which is made from ethanol, costs about twice as much as conventional jet fuel without subsidies.

What a great business plan! LanzaJet’s fuel costs twice as much as regular petroleum-based jet fuel, so it requires taxpayer subsidization to make up for the loss incurred by selling fuel at market prices.

Good ol’ Plug Power is also reliant on subsidies for it to be able to operate…

In the U.S., the slow rollout of domestic subsidies and weak demand is pushing Plug Power and competitors such as Electric Hydrogen to expand overseas, upending expectations from when the climate law passed.

“…the slow rollout of domestic subsidies and weak demand” can be translated as meaning there is a lack of actual customer demand for the product, therefore the only revenue source that can keep companies such as these alive is governmental subsidies. But apparently the subsidies can’t keep up with the cash burn.

This makes me laugh - United Airlines diverted money that might have otherwise been used for Capex or improving operations to engage in green virtue signaling. The money is gone…

One casualty appears to be Fulcrum BioEnergy, the startup backed by United that said it could turn trash into jet fuel. The company had developed the process for more than 15 years and operated a plant in Nevada before missing bond payments. Its website appears to no longer be up. Efforts to reach executives were unsuccessful. United declined to comment.

Also unsurprising, with all this money being thrown around, there is a lot of corruption:

In some cases, the problems are internal. Alder Fuels, a startup turning biomass into fuel, is continuing to work on its technology after founder and CEO Bryan Sherbacow was found guilty of embezzling, then replaced, a spokesman said.

If I can return to LanzaJet for just a moment, the state of Georgia is apparently infested with elected officials of both parties who believe that the path to business growth and new jobs is to throw taxpayer money at green boondoggles.

“Sen. Ossoff Accelerating Sustainable Aviation Fuel Development in Georgia” [Office of Senator Jon Ossoff – 8/20/2024]

Sen. Ossoff is delivering $3,096,047 to LanzaJet, a sustainable aviation fuel producer, to support their new production facility in Soperton, Georgia…

In this next article, it becomes painfully clear that Georgia’s Public Service Commissioner (who is a Republican) has absolutely no understanding of how a for-profit business operates. He is clearly oblivious to the fact that a normal business produces income by selling products to customers, not by obtaining grants and taxpayer subsidies.

“Rural Georgia gets world's first sustainable jet fuel factory of its kind” [Georgia Public Broadcasting - 01/25/2024]

“They're joining the ranks of many others that are coming here as a result of Georgia being such a great place to do business,” Georgia Public Service Commissioner Tim Echols, a Republican, said. “I mean, would you ever think that a ruby-red state like Georgia would capture so much of this clean energy money? Rivian Hyundai, SK Battery, the largest solar plant in North America. We are just gobbling it up.”

“Republican” Tim Echols and his ilk are open fans of “corporate communism,” in which the wealth of citizens is confiscated through taxation and then redistributed to government-favored corporations whose primary source of revenue is government subsidies.

To paraphrase George Orwell: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Redistributed wealth is profit.

For those of us who champion actual free enterprise, these government-subsidized “clean energy” companies are an abomination. Their failure is necessary, not only to save us from the anti-carbon Net Zero agenda, but also to save free-market capitalism.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM




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Posted by: Skip at September 20, 2024 11:00 AM (fwDg9)

2 1st?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:00 AM (v6JzV)

3 Dammit, Skip

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:00 AM (v6JzV)

4 It's almost like the government is really bad at picking winners but really good at picking losers.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 20, 2024 11:01 AM (17s+e)

5 Because they make no sense without subsidies. They are merely a way to soak the government for quick cash. They are not meant to 'succeed'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 20, 2024 11:02 AM (y31cs)

6 th!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 20, 2024 11:02 AM (kgE5c)

7 They should have been spinning straw into gold. And daring people to guess their name.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 20, 2024 11:03 AM (S6gqv)

8 Do you remember Solyndra, the “green energy” company which received over half a billion dollars



Nope. Not at all.
- MSM

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:03 AM (D9GoZ)

9 In the same vein, Kamala spent 42 billion fucking dollars on internet 'partity' for citizens. Because internet is a right.

Number of people who actually got internet after 42 billion dollars?

Zero.

(Yes, I know I just wrote that zero isn't a number)

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:03 AM (Ud7de)

10 Think I can get $100 million from the feds with a nice PP presentation about how I'm going to green something that isn't considered green?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:03 AM (GBKbO)

11 But...no new nukes.

Posted by: BignJames at September 20, 2024 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

12 After the fallout from the genocide, remember, future governments have no power of taxation under threat of death and asset seizure of the entire bloodline of anyone stupid enough to propose it.....

Posted by: Stateless at September 20, 2024 11:04 AM (jvJvP)

13 Almost as if they were designed to fail.

After the grift ran out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 20, 2024 11:04 AM (Q4IgG)

14 Unsurprisingly, a whole new generation of Solyndras popped up in recent years, promising to develop various new forms of “clean energy” for which there is not a market, especially not at the price it would take to develop the product.

this is because that selfish federal government wouldn't spend enough money to position us for success!

Posted by: solyndra at September 20, 2024 11:04 AM (sGtp+)

15 All these Church of Global Warming money grabs are a scam

Posted by: Skip at September 20, 2024 11:04 AM (fwDg9)

16 Buttigieg Defends Spending $7.5 Billion on Eight EV Charging Stations

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He kept it under $1 billion a unit!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:05 AM (L/fGl)

17 These fake phony bullshit "clean energy" companies are bigger scams than the fake phony bullshit EV "industry."

These companies are nothing more than pump and dump schemes existing solely to fleece taxpayers through gov't subsidies and payoffs. Their sole business model is to suck up as much taxpayer money as possible, stuff the pockets of the owners (all big Democrap donors, natch), and then go out of business.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 20, 2024 11:05 AM (iFTx/)

18 A company backed by United Airlines that raised hundreds of millions of dollars to turn trash into jet fuel appears to have shut down. Another, backed by Airbus, JetBlue and GE Aerospace, that was working on using hydrogen to power planes went bust. Chevron, BP and Shell, meanwhile, are scaling back projects to make biofuels from cooking fats, oils, greases and plant material.
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All of these things are possible.
Not all of these things are practical.
None of these things are practical at all scales.

The problem with most of the "clean energy" problem - whichever approach is being considered - is that there is nothing that can be all things to all men in all places. There is one exception to that: petroleum. Petroleum is not truly universal, either - it does require a somewhat large scale to get started and sustain (which is why it correlates with industrialization), but it turns that out that *after* it was able to start, it actually could be all things to all men in all places.

That's the problem with the alternatives. The question isn't, "can an alternative be technically contrived?" The answer that question is categorically "yes." It's already been done.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:05 AM (HnUIn)

19 I have an idea for a perpetual motion machine that could be realized with a billion Biden bucks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 20, 2024 11:06 AM (WBQfF)

20 Remember the .com boom of the 90s when no matter how stupid the idea was someone would throw money at it? Green is that but for the 2020s.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:06 AM (D9GoZ)

21 “The excitement of the early days has not lived up to the hype,” said Andy Marsh...

Yeah? Well, welcome to my frickin' life, Andy.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 20, 2024 11:06 AM (/y8xj)

22 Hydrogen!
The fuel of the future.
And always will be.
Free drinks tomorrow!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 20, 2024 11:06 AM (KitMy)

23 willowed:
___________

Ordinary consumers will still have to practice energy conservation measures due to limited electricity capacity.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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They are also starting up mothballed coal fired plants for these tech monopolies.

Funny thing, we can freeze to death in the winter and heatstroke in the summer and there is nothing they can do. But Big Buddy comes along with need and it's all systems go. Not for you but for them.
But they will raise your rates to cover their costs.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 20, 2024 11:06 AM (IjJkn)

24 I'm beginning to get the impression that the Venn diagram intersection between Mr. Throckmorton's thoughts on our progress toward our Clean Energy future, and being onboard with our Administration is not where it needs to be, and by that, I mean 100% aligned.

Posted by: Kamala! 2024! 2028! David Hogg! 2032! at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (a3Q+t)

25 "Clean" energy, dirty economics.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (OUMaO)

26 Funny, my stocks that are doing well right now either produce oil, pipe gas, build military hardware, or produce nuclear power.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (lTGtQ)

27 Remember the .com boom of the 90s when no matter how stupid the idea was someone would throw money at it? Green is that but for the 2020s.
Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024


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Don't remind us.

Posted by: Pets dot Com at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (J2vNu)

28
One word: "CLAWBACK"

Even if you cannot get your money back, you can always get blood.

Posted by: biteme at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (xWS9V)

29 Sen. Ossoff is delivering $3,096,047 to LanzaJet, a sustainable aviation fuel producer, to support their new production facility in Soperton, Georgia…
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They'll name stuff after him. I think that's probably half the point. Half of West Virginia is named after Byrd.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (HnUIn)

30 The amount of graft that takes place in United States puts every other country to shame. And they do it with a straight face.

No one gets into politics to do good.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (Ud7de)

31 16 Buttigieg Defends Spending $7.5 Billion on Eight EV Charging Stations

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He kept it under $1 billion a unit!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:05 AM (L/fGl)

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And copper prices are through the roof!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (WBQfF)

32 But no matter how much money is thrown at these ventures, there is generally no pathway to profit when competing against fossil fuels.

The government, like many liberals, think that profit is evil.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (RjOoY)

33 I have an idea for a perpetual motion machine that could be realized with a billion Biden bucks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)


Get in line.

Posted by: Cold Fusion Developers at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (v6JzV)

34 Besides very short term limits, I propose that any politician that can vote to give our (taxpayer) money away has to have skin in the game. Meaning they have to pony up their own money. Make it enough of a percentage to really make them think before they vote, and it needs to have a mechanism where they can't just get payola and call it their investment.

Unrealistic I know

Or...or...there shall be punitive consequences if said bill fails to perform as stated. And the taxpayers get a say in those consequences.

Posted by: haffhowershower at September 20, 2024 11:08 AM (NMT5x)

35 I mean, would you ever think that a ruby-red state like Georgia would capture so much of this clean energy money?



It’s so ruby red it has 2 Democrat senators and voted for Biden. Do these people all think we’re idiots?

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:08 AM (D9GoZ)

36 Ethanol has something like 10% of the energy content of avgas. Don't see how you could use it to power an engine potent enough to lift several hundred tons of airplane.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:08 AM (VdhcA)

37 Trump War Room
@TrumpWarRoom
KAMALA: "In terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams and ambitions for your family and working hard and finding that the American Dream is, for this generation & so many recently, far more elusive than it's been, and we need to deal with that."

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Can I get a witness? Can I get a witness?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:08 AM (L/fGl)

38 In this next article, it becomes painfully clear that Georgia’s Public Service Commissioner (who is a Republican) has absolutely no understanding of how a for-profit business operates.
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There is a remarkable absence of people from the private sector in government employment. Lots of them go from college to politics, or from college to activism to politics. Most of them have had one or more private job, but often not for very long and rarely in executive positions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)

39 Remember the .com boom of the 90s when no matter how stupid the idea was someone would throw money at it?

Yup. I worked for a company that sold IT services to dot-coms. So we didn't get the dot-com $$$ but we got the dot-com shaft when they went away.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 20, 2024 11:08 AM (/y8xj)

40 So, it sounds like the break even point for the number of units needed to recoup your investment is actually a negative number.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 20, 2024 11:09 AM (991eG)

41 When the government throws money at someone, or something you can rest assure that a healthy percentage is going right back into the politician's pockets that championed it.

In a normal, functioning government $42B spent on Internet connectivity that never happened would be a scandal.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 20, 2024 11:09 AM (Q4IgG)

42
Are we still starting with comment #1?

Did not the cacophonous blather from the last thread result in some changes around here?

I am disappoint

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 20, 2024 11:09 AM (xG4kz)

43 no matter how stupid the idea was someone would throw money at it?

Worked for a start up that burned right through investors cash.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 20, 2024 11:09 AM (KitMy)

44 Remember the .com boom of the 90s when no matter how stupid the idea was someone would throw money at it? Green is that but for the 2020s.

Posted by: News Update



The bust is coming, just like the dot com bust. When seven stocks make up a third of the S&P500 index value, it is like handing out vodka at an AA meeting. You see the accident coming, it is just a matter of time.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:10 AM (lTGtQ)

45 They're making us all look like fools for paying our taxes.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 20, 2024 11:10 AM (g8Ew8)

46 Ethanol has something like 10% of the energy content of avgas. Don't see how you could use it to power an engine potent enough to lift several hundred tons of airplane.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024


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We see it on a much smaller scale in our cars. E0, ethanol-free gas, yields about 10% better mileage (when you can find it, and afford it) than does E10, the alcohol-laced stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:11 AM (J2vNu)

47 Ah. Solyndra.

The brazen nature of that heist, and the total lack of accountability for any of the perps, was one of my first big clues that America had entered Hoffer's 3rd phase of great causes.

The worst part to me was the public apathy. I was 26 then. It was the moment when I began to realize that the corruption had been so bad for so long that people just couldn't even see it, like fish in water.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 20, 2024 11:11 AM (0FoWg)

48 42 Are we still starting with comment #1?

Did not the cacophonous blather from the last thread result in some changes around here?


we are the change we are waiting for

Posted by: anachronda at September 20, 2024 11:11 AM (sGtp+)

49 1st?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:00 AM


Claim First or claim First not. There is no interrogatory.

Posted by: Yoda at September 20, 2024 11:11 AM (a3Q+t)

50 Remember the .com boom of the 90s when no matter how stupid the idea was someone would throw money at it? Green is that but for the 2020s.
Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:06 AM (D9GoZ)
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AI is that for the 2020s.

Green is a bit different. It is more dependent on public contrivance than the first tech bubble was. There were subsidies, inducements, etc. during the tech bubble - and there are for AI, too - but they weren't central to the scheme and weren't the biggest factor. In "green energy," the subsidies and inducements are central to the entire operation. It is not an organic mania that people shovel cash into more or less voluntarily (although with a major undercurrent of fraud in the form of "trees grow to the sky" wishcasting).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:11 AM (HnUIn)

51 No one gets into politics to do good.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

I read the other day that former beertender AOC is now worth $29 million so I'd say she's doing well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:11 AM (L/fGl)

52 ABC News: Youth activists plan protests to demand action on climate as big events open in NYC...planned actions in Berlin, Brussels, Rio de Janeiro, New Delhi and many other cities were being organized by the youth-led group Fridays for Future, and included the group's New York chapter, which planned a march across the Brooklyn Bridge followed by a rally that organizers hoped would attract at least 1,000 people. More protests were planned Saturday and Sunday.

New York is hosting Climate Week NYC, an annual event that promotes climate action, at the same time the U.N. General Assembly takes up the issue on several fronts, including raising trillions of dollars to aid poorer countries suffering the most from climate change.

The New York protest will take aim at “the pillars of fossil fuels” — companies that pollute, banks that fund them, and leaders who are failing on climate, said Helen Mancini, an organizer and a senior at the city's Stuyvesant High School. Youth climate protests started in August 2018 when Greta Thunberg, then an unknown 15-year-old, left school to stage a sit-down strike outside of the Swedish parliament to demand climate action and end fossil fuel use.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 20, 2024 11:11 AM (JCZqz)

53 my current favorite is the push to green energy in the mining industry...

i have to wonder how well that's going to go when trucks and shovels are idle because they are charging...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 20, 2024 11:12 AM (v6XNT)

54 Worked for a start up that burned right through investors cash.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 20, 2024 11:09 AM (KitMy)

Startup I worked for actually made some money and was gobbled up by a larger competitor. But some of our clients were the pets.com types. And I remember thinking how the fuck can this be a viable business? And of course it wasn’t for long. But they had 150 employees and a kick ass office with catered lunches every day and shit. Ahhh VC money.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:12 AM (D9GoZ)

55 46 We see it on a much smaller scale in our cars. E0, ethanol-free gas, yields about 10% better mileage (when you can find it, and afford it) than does E10, the alcohol-laced stuff.

this is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: michael jackson at September 20, 2024 11:12 AM (sGtp+)

56 I propose that the next thread be composed entirely of negative numbers.

Pixy, make it so!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 20, 2024 11:12 AM (WBQfF)

57 We see it on a much smaller scale in our cars. E0, ethanol-free gas, yields about 10% better mileage (when you can find it, and afford it) than does E10, the alcohol-laced stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


And unless your vehicle has a stainless steel fuel system, the ethanol is eating it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:13 AM (lTGtQ)

58 Government should not be involved in this in any way, but assuming they're going to be, I require 2 conditions:
1) Anybody involved with the project must have a technical background in the relevant field. No more projects run by comparative lit majors and MBAs.
2) All of the executive board of these outfits must put all of their personal assets and money into it.
I suspect that #2 would very quickly remove 99.9% of those trying to sell this nonsense.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:13 AM (xCA6C)

59 Make money? From the Gov?....Start a NGO.

Posted by: BignJames at September 20, 2024 11:13 AM (AwYPR)

60
Earth first!

We'll mine the other planets later.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 20, 2024 11:13 AM (a3Q+t)

61 52 ABC News: Youth activists plan protests to demand action on climate as big events open in NYC...planned actions in Berlin, Brussels, Rio de Janeiro, New Delhi and many other cities were being organized by the youth-led group Fridays for Future, and included the group's New York chapter, which planned a march across the Brooklyn Bridge followed by a rally that organizers hoped would attract at least 1,000 people. More protests were planned Saturday and Sunday.

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Children. They're so precious.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 20, 2024 11:13 AM (WBQfF)

62
I'm always amused by the breathless headlines like, "Catalyst Developed to Break Down Plastics!" It's inevitably a hothouse rose that can't survive outside the lab. Even if it's scaled up, it never makes it past the pilot stage. And even if it gets past that point, it's hopelessly uneconomical.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:13 AM (BkEzK)

63 What is the federal department which oversees spending and audits agencies?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:14 AM (Ud7de)

64 Ethanol has something like 10% of the energy content of avgas. Don't see how you could use it to power an engine potent enough to lift several hundred tons of airplane.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:08 AM (VdhcA)
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Ethanol is a bad choice for marine and aviation use, which is why they don't use it for those purposes. Ethanol is hydrophilic. Gasoline is hydrophobic. If you introduce too much moisture, they'll separate. That's a serious problem because it means you have a layer of ethanol, a layer of water and a layer of gas. Eventually, the engine is going to suck water. Then the engine stops. Bad for boats, catastrophic for aircraft.

Energy density notwithstanding, hydrophilic fuels in environments with lots of water (marine) or with major temperature swings that can cause rapid separation (aviation) are a bad idea.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:14 AM (HnUIn)

65 Companies failing is a leading indicator that our predictions remain sound. We're just seeing too far into the future, because we can't help being so awesome.

Settle down, Deplorables. And eat some bugs.

Posted by: The Bureaucratic Borg at September 20, 2024 11:14 AM (8AONa)

66 Pixy, make it so!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 20, 2024 11:12 AM


You're not the Picard of me!

Posted by: Pixy at September 20, 2024 11:14 AM (a3Q+t)

67 GAO. That's it.

Haven't heard shit from them in a looooong time.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:14 AM (Ud7de)

68
Another, backed by Airbus, JetBlue and GE Aerospace, that was working on using hydrogen to power planes went bust


'Sup?

-- airship Hindenburg

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 20, 2024 11:14 AM (xG4kz)

69 The wind-up rubber band balsa planes flew quite well. I'm proposing to upscale this for passenger travel.

Posted by: Helicopters, Too! at September 20, 2024 11:14 AM (CV8a5)

70 Yeah AI too. But green isn’t just subsidies and govt money. There’s a ton of VC money out there in all sorts of green start ups. Everyone thinks there a unicorn in some green bio lab out there somewhere.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:15 AM (D9GoZ)

71 Never mind Solyndra, the bigger crisis is Tits For Trump...

Jonathan Choe
@choeshow
"Tits For Trump" activists are trying to raise money for the campaign. 🤣
This is the same woman who flashed the NYC Portal earlier this year.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 20, 2024 11:15 AM (TGPs7)

72 Nvidia's PE ratio is 55 right now. In other words, it will take 55 years for their earnings per share to cover the price per share.

Exxon's is about 12.

Which would you rather be buying right now?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:15 AM (lTGtQ)

73 She said Nip...


Rita Panahi
@RitaPanahi
Can we nip this “tits for Trump” thing in the bud before it gets out of hand.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (TGPs7)

74 Trump War Room
@TrumpWarRoom
KAMALA: "In terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams and ambitions for your family and working hard and finding that the American Dream is, for this generation & so many recently, far more elusive than it's been, and we need to deal with that."

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Can I get a witness? Can I get a witness?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:08 AM


A witness? Hell, a word salad like that needs dressing.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (kgE5c)

75 Guys I have this amazing idea. We harness the power of wind to power ships. 100% green.

Who will give me $100M to see this vision come to life?

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (D9GoZ)

76 And unless your vehicle has a stainless steel fuel system, the ethanol is eating it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024


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The fuel systems of modern cars, I've read, are designed to handle ethanol-laced fuel. My '16 Buick is supposed to be able to handle E85 (it has a yellow gas cap). I envision what lousy mileage I'll get on that, for a savings of a big nickel a gallon, and turn away.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (J2vNu)

77
And unless your vehicle has a stainless steel fuel system, the ethanol is eating it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:13 AM (lTGtQ)

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Not if you use it fast enough. After a month, E10 is useless. The ethanol absorbs water. This allows microorganisms to develop. The bugs eat the ethanol and turn it into acetic acid. The acetic acid causes corrosion.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (BkEzK)

78 It seems to me that Tits for Trump is the kind of organization many 'rons would like to be in front of.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (a3Q+t)

79 Rita Panahi
@RitaPanahi
Can we nip this “tits for Trump” thing in the bud before it gets out of hand.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (TGPs7)

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Left to expand on its own, it could lead to udder chaos.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 20, 2024 11:17 AM (WBQfF)

80 We were in Silicon Valley in 2000. The amount of money being thrown at every idea, startup, technology was insane. Almost overnight hundreds of thousands of people became millionaires.

Most were ill equipped to deal with it.

Many of the start-ups pissed through cash so fast and produced nothing. Others, with more aspirational ideas and government backing, survived. And not all were for the greater good. As we've seen.

The government is a poor steward of both ideas and money.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 20, 2024 11:17 AM (Q4IgG)

81 20 Remember the .com boom of the 90s when no matter how stupid the idea was someone would throw money at it? Green is that but for the 2020s.

what am i? chopped liver?

Posted by: chatgpt at September 20, 2024 11:17 AM (sGtp+)

82 72 Nvidia's PE ratio is 55 right now. In other words, it will take 55 years for their earnings per share to cover the price per share.

Exxon's is about 12.

Which would you rather be buying right now?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:15 AM (lTGtQ)

Am I buying long or short term? Long term Exxon. Short NVIDIA. The AI hysteria still has some legs.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:17 AM (D9GoZ)

83
Children. They're so precious.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)


And gullible. And dumb!

I know, let's make them voters!

-- Dims -- Replacements Welcome!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 20, 2024 11:17 AM (xG4kz)

84 Remember the .com boom of the 90s when no matter how stupid the idea was someone would throw money at it? Green is that but for the 2020s.
Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:06 AM (D9GoZ)
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AI is that for the 2020s.

Green is a bit different. It is more dependent on public contrivance than the first tech bubble was. There were subsidies, inducements, etc. during the tech bubble - and there are for AI, too - but they weren't central to the scheme and weren't the biggest factor. In "green energy," the subsidies and inducements are central to the entire operation. It is not an organic mania that people shovel cash into more or less voluntarily (although with a major undercurrent of fraud in the form of "trees grow to the sky" wishcasting).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:11 AM (HnUIn)
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I would add that "green" is also dependent on political connections. Every one of these green scam companies is connected in Democrap politics, and big Democrap donors. There are some exceptions in "red" states like GA, but even there there is always a corrupt governor or other decision-maker who lines his own pockets with kickbacks and donations.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 20, 2024 11:18 AM (iFTx/)

85 I'm always amused by the breathless headlines like, "Catalyst Developed to Break Down Plastics!" It's inevitably a hothouse rose that can't survive outside the lab. Even if it's scaled up, it never makes it past the pilot stage. And even if it gets past that point, it's hopelessly uneconomical.

I saw one of those the other day. It involved a catalyst that in the presence of sunshine converts CO2 and methane to CO and methanol, both desirable feedstock chemicals. The catalyst comprised (IIRC) gold, palladium, and gallium nitride. The latter is not a catalyst, so I'm assuming it's Au and Pd on a GaN substrate.

Anyway, it would be miraculous if it works. If.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)

86 scaling back projects to make biofuels from cooking fats, oils, greases and plant material.

Y'know, this was a solved problem as soon as they figured out how to refine petroleum.

You use the edible oil for food and cosmetics, and the inedible oil for everything else.

That is why we are technologically advanced with abundant food.

Because we stopped using food oils for heat and light.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 20, 2024 11:18 AM (hB7mE)

87 Nvidia's PE ratio is 55 right now. In other words, it will take 55 years for their earnings per share to cover the price per share.

Exxon's is about 12.

Which would you rather be buying right now?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:15 AM (lTGtQ)
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Ah, but that isn't exactly the question for a lot of investors. For a lot, the question is, "which one would you rather own tomorrow?"

If you think that Nvidia is poised for more and more revenue and profit growth in a major, sustained market segment - AI, in this case - and therefore higher prices and dividends, then Nvidia. Exxon is an oil major. It's slow. It's reliable. It's dividend comes out like clockwork. It's total return will be lower as a result.

Safe play vs. speculative play, and there is room for both.

Me? I believe AI is a bubble and Nvidia is a prime bubble stock. It isn't going to fail when AI pops but I think there's a good chance that, like Cisco before it, its valuation will never come close to recovering its prior highs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:18 AM (HnUIn)

88 It seems to me that Tits for Trump is the kind of organization many 'rons would like to be in front of.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (a3Q+t)
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I would stand behind it and support it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:18 AM (VdhcA)

89 Penguin guano fuels have TWICE the octane of bat guano fuels. So support your local penguin colony!

Posted by: Penguin Pete at September 20, 2024 11:18 AM (CV8a5)

90 After a month, E10 is useless. The ethanol absorbs water. This allows microorganisms to develop. The bugs eat the ethanol and turn it into acetic acid. The acetic acid causes corrosion.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Sounds like the perfect fuel for a boat or RV, huh?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:19 AM (lTGtQ)

91 Not if you use it fast enough. After a month, E10 is useless. The ethanol absorbs water. This allows microorganisms to develop. The bugs eat the ethanol and turn it into acetic acid. The acetic acid causes corrosion.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024


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I've been mixing E0 and E10 50/50 in my car for a while now. Every so often I run the tank down to fumes and refill with E0. $$$, but I think it's probably worth it in the long run.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:19 AM (J2vNu)

92 Save the whales!
Stop acid rain!
Tuna fishing kills dolphins!
There is a hole in the ozone!
We are running out of water!
Too many people, not enough food!
The icebergs are melting!
The temperature is getting colder!
The temperature is getting hotter!

SSDD

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:19 AM (Ud7de)

93 You bastards and your negative mind sets!

Biden Complains About People Having a "Negative Mindset" About His Economy

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:19 AM (L/fGl)

94 Nvidia's PE ratio is 55 right now. In other words, it will take 55 years for their earnings per share to cover the price per share.

Exxon's is about 12.

Which would you rather be buying right now?


Obviously I'd buy the NVidia because it has the higher profit to earnings ratio. Duh.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 20, 2024 11:19 AM (xCA6C)

95 80 We were in Silicon Valley in 2000. The amount of money being thrown at every idea, startup, technology was insane. Almost overnight hundreds of thousands of people became millionaires.

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I was there too. It was a fun time. A wild ride. I was a paper millionaire as well. By the time I had vested enough the party was over unfortunately.

Still a great experience being in the middle of all the crazy. Taught me a lot of lessons.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:20 AM (D9GoZ)

96 >>Yeah AI too. But green isn’t just subsidies and govt money. There’s a ton of VC money out there in all sorts of green start ups. Everyone thinks there a unicorn in some green bio lab out there somewhere.


There's a ton of VC money because there is a ton of government money. When the government money stops so will the VC money.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 20, 2024 11:20 AM (LkLld)

97 Lots of them go from college to politics, or from college to activism to politics. Most of them have had one or more private job, but often not for very long and rarely in executive positions.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

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It's similarly astonishing to see the number of legislators whose sole qualification for making decisions about reintroducing grey wolves into the Colorado mountains comes from watching "Bambi".

Posted by: Muldoon at September 20, 2024 11:20 AM (991eG)

98 93 You bastards and your negative mind sets!

Biden Complains About People Having a "Negative Mindset" About His Economy
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:19 AM (L/fGl)

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'Member McJobs?

I 'member.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:20 AM (GBKbO)

99 Air Supply is Yacht Rock now?
*ponders*

I'm actually ok with this.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 20, 2024 11:20 AM (xcxpd)

100
What is the federal department which oversees spending and audits agencies?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:14 AM


I think that will be Elon Musk's position in Trumps third* term.


* 2020 was stolen.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 20, 2024 11:20 AM (RKVpM)

101 You bastards and your negative mind sets!

Biden Complains About People Having a "Negative Mindset" About His Economy
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:19 AM


No. We're positive it sucks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 20, 2024 11:20 AM (kgE5c)

102 Me? I believe AI is a bubble and Nvidia is a prime bubble stock. It isn't going to fail when AI pops but I think there's a good chance that, like Cisco before it, its valuation will never come close to recovering its prior highs.

Oh, come on. Obviously you'd sell just before the bubble popped. Duh.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:21 AM (xCA6C)

103 2 Save the whales!
Stop acid rain!
Tuna fishing kills dolphins!
There is a hole in the ozone!
We are running out of water!
Too many people, not enough food!
The icebergs are melting!
The temperature is getting colder!
The temperature is getting hotter!

SSDD
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024


***
Nuke a gay whale for Gaia!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:21 AM (J2vNu)

104
Sounds like the perfect fuel for a boat or RV, huh?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:19 AM (lTGtQ)

__________

Car: E10
Small-engines: E0

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:21 AM (BkEzK)

105 But no matter how much money is thrown at these ventures, there is generally no pathway to profit when competing against fossil fuels.

Greenies often claim that certain allowable accounting practices are "subsidies" to fossil fuel production, just like the enormous overt subsidies given to "green energy".

The difference is that if you if eliminate fossil fuel "subsidies", fossil fuel gets more expensive.

You eliminate subsidies to a"green energy" industry, and the industry collapses.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (uxCna)

106 Startups promising to power planes, ships and trucks with clean fuel are sputtering before they get off the ground, showing how hard it will be to wean many industries off oil and gas.



Build a better mousetrap* and the world will beat a path to your door.


*we aren't talking about mousetraps.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (3+vxq)

107 Nvidia's PE ratio is 55 right now. In other words, it will take 55 years for their earnings per share to cover the price per share.

Exxon's is about 12.

Which would you rather be buying right now?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:15 AM (lTGtQ)

Am I buying long or short term? Long term Exxon. Short NVIDIA. The AI hysteria still has some legs.
Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:17 AM (D9GoZ)
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I agree Nvidia is overweight right now, but it's not unusual for PE ratios to be higher in tech than in old fashioned industries like oil and gas. Plus, Exxon is probably undervalued right now. The AI boom will eventually dissipate, but it's got some legs for now.

I never tell people what to buy or when. It's impossible to time the market. I manage my own portfolio and that's it. I don't own Nvidia. I missed the big boom (sadly) and think the price is too high now. It's also subject to huge short-term swings (both up and down).

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (iFTx/)

108 Biden is still around? I kinda forgot he existed.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (D9GoZ)

109 Am I buying long or short term? Long term Exxon. Short NVIDIA. The AI hysteria still has some legs.

Posted by: News Update


One of the most valuable things I learned about stocks at university was to never buy a stock if you weren't willing to hold it at least five years. It was a throwaway line on the first day of class, but it has paid handsomely.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (lTGtQ)

110 Penguin guano fuels have TWICE the octane of bat guano fuels. So support your local penguin colony!
Posted by: Penguin Pete at September 20, 2024 11:18 AM (CV8a5)
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I prefer Nibblonian Dark Matter fuel...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (7fElN)

111 These came out yesterday, for those that grease their polls for strippers:

Emmerson; LV screen:
Trump up 4 in NC; 2 in WI; 2 in GA; 1 in AZ; even in PA and NV; down one in MI.

Ok, those are disastrous number for the Casting Couch Hyena.
Ol' Joe was up like 4-6 in all of those but GA and NC by this point.
And pulled away through Oct; narrowing for Trump the last two weeks of Oct.
Trump takes those 1st four, he wins.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (0awbi)

112 Nuke the Byzantines. Save the dithyramb.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (VdhcA)

113 What is the federal department which oversees spending and audits agencies?

The General Accounting Office, allegedly.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 20, 2024 11:23 AM (uxCna)

114 Thx Buck. I've told this story before but it's very related to this post. There is a large abandoned IBM facility outside my home city. It was shut in the early nineties. Various schemes have been put forth to redevelop the site. Last year to great fanfare a company bought the site and a Canadian battery company Zinc8 was contracted to build production facility. Lo and behold the about 8 months later with no movement on the facility the CEO of Zinc8 resigned , mass layoffs occurred and the stock cratered. At the moment the stock is at .055 and I think bankruptcy is in the offing. Great bs, no real product

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 20, 2024 11:23 AM (k2SDB)

115 The tightwad government obviously did not invest enough money. There's a few months left in this one. They should just spend more.

Posted by: torabora at September 20, 2024 11:23 AM (0Gnoc)

116 All we have to do is to wire up one of those alien space craft and turn it on.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 20, 2024 11:23 AM (W3T6M)

117 There's a ton of VC money because there is a ton of government money. When the government money stops so will the VC money.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 20, 2024


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The Viet Cong are still around?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:23 AM (J2vNu)

118
When AI and crypto go bust, what will they do with all that excess electricity capacity??

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:23 AM (BkEzK)

119 This money always finds its way back into the hands of the politicians and their friends.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 20, 2024 11:23 AM (zzdrL)

120 108 Biden is still around? I kinda forgot he existed.
Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (D9GoZ)

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No thing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 20, 2024 11:23 AM (WBQfF)

121 Oh, come on. Obviously you'd sell just before the bubble popped. Duh.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:21 AM (xCA6C)
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Sure. There are plenty of speculative investors who are fully on board with that.

The expression is "catching a falling knife" and if you catch it, it's *awesome.* You're not only extremely rich, you also immediately become a Grand Oracle of Investing and get extremely richer fairly easily.

If you don't catch it, though, you get your fingers sliced off.

I'm fond of my fingers. I don't play in what I think are bubbles. Perhaps my timidity keeps me from significant wealth. I acknowledge that. It also keeps me out of the poor house.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:23 AM (HnUIn)

122 Do yacht owners lose their firearms as often as us lowly canoe people?

Posted by: Capsized Carl at September 20, 2024 11:24 AM (CV8a5)

123 It seems to me that Tits for Trump is the kind of organization many 'rons would like to be in front of.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (a3Q+t)
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I would stand behind it and support it.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar .

I would lift and separate.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:24 AM (L/fGl)

124
Biden Complains About People Having a "Negative Mindset" About His Economy


WTH are you doing out of your room? You've not yet cured cancer and you have exactly four months to do so! You get back in your room and get back to work, boy-o! I don't want to see or hear you until suppertime!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 20, 2024 11:24 AM (xG4kz)

125 >>The Viet Cong are still around?

Having spent the last 30 years of my life working with VCs my answer would be yes.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 20, 2024 11:24 AM (LkLld)

126 111 These came out yesterday, for those that grease their polls for strippers:

Emmerson; LV screen:
Trump up 4 in NC; 2 in WI; 2 in GA; 1 in AZ; even in PA and NV; down one in MI.

Ok, those are disastrous number for the Casting Couch Hyena.
Ol' Joe was up like 4-6 in all of those but GA and NC by this point.
And pulled away through Oct; narrowing for Trump the last two weeks of Oct.
Trump takes those 1st four, he wins.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (0awbi)

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Yeah, but Morning Consult, which has an average error of about 7 in 2020 for state polling in favor of Democrats, said that Kamala was up in all of those states.

You can't argue with that. Leftists call Morning Consult high quality. They labeled it!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:24 AM (GBKbO)

127 56 I propose that the next thread be composed entirely of negative numbers.


imaginary numbers > negative numbers

Posted by: anachronda at September 20, 2024 11:24 AM (sGtp+)

128 It seems to me that Tits for Trump is the kind of organization many 'rons would like to be in front of.
Posted by: Duncanthrax


I wonder how Pager Girl feels about Trump.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:25 AM (v6JzV)

129 Sure. There are plenty of speculative investors who are fully on board with that.

The expression is "catching a falling knife" and if you catch it, it's *awesome.* You're not only extremely rich, you also immediately become a Grand Oracle of Investing and get extremely richer fairly easily.

If you don't catch it, though, you get your fingers sliced off.


If it wasn't clear, I was being facetious. I probably own some NVidia in the form of a mutual fund, but at this point, I wouldn't touch it.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:25 AM (xCA6C)

130 If it wasn't clear, I was being facetious. I probably own some NVidia in the form of a mutual fund, but at this point, I wouldn't touch it.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:25 AM (xCA6C)
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Yup, it was clear. But it *is* also a perfectly valid strategy. It's very high-risk to play that game, but the potential rewards are staggering. It's just not for me.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:25 AM (HnUIn)

131 It seems to me that Tits for Trump is the kind of organization many 'rons would like to be in front of.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

***********

Most of us would prefer a hands-on approach.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 20, 2024 11:25 AM (991eG)

132 KAMALA: "In terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams and ambitions for your family and working hard and finding that the American Dream is, for this generation & so many recently, far more elusive than it's been, and we need to deal with that."
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A run on sentence like that is sure sign of super intelligence.

Posted by: The Media Whores at September 20, 2024 11:26 AM (17s+e)

133 Greenies often claim that certain allowable accounting practices are "subsidies" to fossil fuel production, just like the enormous overt subsidies given to "green energy".

The difference is that if you if eliminate fossil fuel "subsidies", fossil fuel gets more expensive.

You eliminate subsidies to a"green energy" industry, and the industry collapses.

Posted by: The ARC of History


The primary "subsidy" to oil and gas is the depletion allowance, which is depreciation at a slightly faster rate than MACRS, due to the fact that wells are generally depleted faster than the nominal rate the IRS assigned to business property.

If that is a subsidy, then all businesses large and small are subsidized.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:26 AM (lTGtQ)

134 I've long thought that "virtue signaling" is one of the most destructive things a person can do.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 20, 2024 11:26 AM (WPL6O)

135 Nvidia gave me the biggest gain I've ever had in a stock. Bought in at 400 bucks before the split.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:26 AM (Ud7de)

136 I told my CEO long ago that Fulcrum was a scam...MSW is not a homogenous waste stream, you cannot turn it consistently into a high energy gas so the MEB does not have an economic benefit...add to that the whole Fulcrum scheme required a stick built 200M plant - not going to work.

Modular mini-plants, $5M in cost range, that promise a guaranteed incremental organic waste diversion from landfills at a tipping fee, using a known water-gas shift technology (injecting super-heated steam in a pyrolysis environment, for example), thus extending the life of the landfill while garnering revenues, including some for the by-products of the process, is the only way to make this industry economically pencil out without accessing govt subsidies.

But this is hard work, requires years of R&D and patient private capital. And these get quick artists like Plug Power and Fulcrum aren't about that...

Posted by: Boswell at September 20, 2024 11:26 AM (V7158)

137
A run on sentence like that is sure sign of super intelligence.
Posted by: The Media Whores at September 20, 2024 11:26 AM (17s+e)

__________

Not her fault you're too stupid to understand.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:27 AM (BkEzK)

138 GatewayPundit....

Diddy, about whom? I know crap, is on suicide watch.

Wonder if he knows that....

Posted by: Stateless at September 20, 2024 11:27 AM (jvJvP)

139 We see it on a much smaller scale in our cars. E0, ethanol-free gas, yields about 10% better mileage (when you can find it, and afford it) than does E10, the alcohol-laced stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Perhaps, but the E15 blend here is much more than 15% cheaper thanks to all the tax breaks...and E85 is even cheaper, where available for flex fuel vehicles. If only they'd sell E100...$1.99/gallon for Everclear would be great!

Posted by: Iowa Ethanol Slave at September 20, 2024 11:27 AM (JCZqz)

140 Yup, it was clear. But it *is* also a perfectly valid strategy. It's very high-risk to play that game, but the potential rewards are staggering. It's just not for me.

I, too, lack the stomach for such risks, even though I can afford a bit of it.

One minute you're up half a million in soybeans and the next, boom, your kids don't go to college and they've repossessed your Bentley.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:27 AM (xCA6C)

141 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 20, 2024 11:27 AM (IXZGh)

142 Investing in Green Companies v. Investing in Lottery Tickets

Hmmmm...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:27 AM (VdhcA)

143 A run on sentence like that is sure sign of super intelligence.
Posted by: The Media Whores at September 20, 2024 1


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I heard Oprah "interviewed" KH in the last day or two. By all reports Winfrey's face made it clear even she thinks KH is an idiot. Did JJ post a link to that video?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:27 AM (J2vNu)

144 Remember the .com boom of the 90s when no matter how stupid the idea was someone would throw money at it?
Posted by: News Update

Say that again...slower.

Posted by: Mark Cuban at September 20, 2024 11:27 AM (fQmeC)

145 People refuse to understand the Law of Conservation and TANSTAAFL.

You cannot make something out of nothing and everything action is going to have a reaction.

To feed and clothe and transport billions of people it's going to affect something. Nothing is ever going to be "clean".

I know the Upper Left understands all this but the fags, minions, idiots and fucktards that comprise their festering base do not and never will.

Posted by: ... at September 20, 2024 11:27 AM (LCr8f)

146 I'm always amused by the breathless headlines like, "Catalyst Developed to Break Down Plastics!" It's inevitably a hothouse rose that can't survive outside the lab.

And a good thing, too. Everything is made out of plastic, we don't want things that can destroy them running rampant in the wild.

Whatever naturally occurring oleophages in the dirt that keep eating the plastic tarps are bad enough.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (hB7mE)

147 I get Nvidia confused with Lume.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (W3T6M)

148 I propose that the next thread be composed entirely of negative numbers.

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imaginary numbers > negative numbers
Posted by: anachronda at September 20, 2024 11:24 AM (sGtp+)

Somebody call me?

I thought I heard somebody call me.

Posted by: Terrence Howard at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (dGCAG)

149 I am kind of wondering how may mohammedans will be willing to vote for a woman for president?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (lTGtQ)

150 Ethanol sucks and they've known it since the 1800's.

You can't make the power from alcohol you can from gasoline or it's derivatives. Period.

Stop trying to. Move on. If you want a BETTER fuel, it MUST OUTPERFORM gasoline. If it doesn't, shove it up your ass. Period.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (IXZGh)

151 A run on sentence like that is sure sign of super intelligence.

Posted by: The Media Whores at September 20, 2024 11:26 AM (17s+e)

It's actually not a complete sentence.

Where do they learn to speak this way?

The Department of Of Obfuscation And Zero-Meaning Department?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (d9fT1)

152 I've been mixing E0 and E10 50/50 in my car for a while now. Every so often I run the tank down to fumes and refill with E0

That sounds like a lot of trouble. I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to just add a bottle of Sta-bil to each tankful.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (/y8xj)

153 'The widely-accepted belief that industries need to be “weaned off oil and gas” is destructively wrong. '

If this country had two collective brains cells to rub together, Pittsburgh would look like Dubai.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (pIfcn)

154 Back to work.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (IXZGh)

155 149 I am kind of wondering how may mohammedans will be willing to vote for a woman for president?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (lTGtQ)

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I love that poll of Muslims in MI (I think) that showed Jill Stein winning a higher proportion than Kamala.

Probably not gonna pan out, but it still tickles me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

156 It's an investment not a subsidy. More Russian disinformation.

Posted by: The Media Whores at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (17s+e)

157 A run on sentence like that is sure sign of super intelligence.
Posted by: The Media Whores

She, uh, could use some more, uh, thoughtful pauses, and-and-and, an intellectual stutter or, uh, two.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (JCZqz)

158 I get Nvidia confused with Lume.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (W3T6M)

I get it mixed up with Nxivm.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (dGCAG)

159 Same as it ever was.

White House Awards $3 Billion in Grants for U.S. Battery Manufacturing

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (L/fGl)

160 153 'The widely-accepted belief that industries need to be “weaned off oil and gas” is destructively wrong. '

If this country had two collective brains cells to rub together, Pittsburgh would look like Dubai.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (pIfcn)

=======

"America has an addiction to oil."
-George W. Bush, like, 20 years ago

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

161 The fundamentals for NVDA are pretty extraordinary. They have a very healthy balance sheet and enough cash to make stock buybacks. Demand for their product is off the chart and companies in their vertical are trading at a much higher price. That’s why you have analysts quoting price targets of $140 and up in some cases higher. I don’t think a price around $138 is unrealistic. Also, if you look at some of the trading the big boys are trying to move retail off the trade- why? There are a lot of reasons they are rated either a buy or hold.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (ibKjr)

162 KAMALA: "In terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams and ambitions for your family and working hard and finding that the American Dream is, for this generation & so many recently, far more elusive than it's been, and we need to deal with that."

And what, Ms. Harris, qualifies you to restructure our economy to achieve this goal? Please list all your accomplishments where you have done so.

Law school, and some degree from Howard don't really do it, now do they.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:30 AM (xCA6C)

163 149 I am kind of wondering how may mohammedans will be willing to vote for a woman for president?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (lTGtQ)



110% of them.
-democrat vote counter

Posted by: haffhowershower at September 20, 2024 11:30 AM (NMT5x)

164
"America has an addiction to oil."
-George W. Bush, like, 20 years ago
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (GBKbO)


There are chemical weapons in Iraq
-George W Bush, like 20 years ago

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:30 AM (Ud7de)

165 Biden has 44% approval right now.

Political people really don't understand the life of the nonpolitical person. They don't just know a little or less, they literally don't know ANYTHING.

Posted by: ... at September 20, 2024 11:30 AM (LCr8f)

166 155 149 I am kind of wondering how may mohammedans will be willing to vote for a woman for president?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (lTGtQ)

Well, her party is apparently pro genocide apparently......

Posted by: Stateless at September 20, 2024 11:31 AM (jvJvP)

167 Almost as if they were designed to fail.

Like the movie "The Producers" where they sold 50,000 percent shares in "Springtime for Hitler"
Solyndra is Springtime for Hitler.

Posted by: DAN at September 20, 2024 11:31 AM (eyhcE)

168 And a good thing, too. Everything is made out of plastic, we don't want things that can destroy them running rampant in the wild.

Whatever naturally occurring oleophages in the dirt that keep eating the plastic tarps are bad enough.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 20, 2024


***
In Ringworld, Larry Niven has Louis Wu relate the tale of a bacterium that evolved on Earth to eat polyethylene. "It was eating the plastic bags off the supermarket shelves. It's dead now. We had to give up polyethylene."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:31 AM (J2vNu)

169 What is "Tits For Trump"? Is it an encouragement for women to vote for Trump?, Is it for men who appreciate tits to give money. to Trump? Is it for people who enjoyed the OnlyFans
woman display at the NY rally to give money to Trump? Maybe it's an organization like BLM except in this case-the tits in charge will skim off a whole lot of money before any goes to Trump.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 20, 2024 11:31 AM (dTTBf)

170 A review of The Ho on Oprah at American Thinker

The woman can talk for 3 minutes and say nothing

Posted by: Skip at September 20, 2024 11:31 AM (fwDg9)

171
Modular mini-plants, $5M in cost range, that promise a guaranteed incremental organic waste diversion from landfills at a tipping fee, using a known water-gas shift technology (injecting super-heated steam in a pyrolysis environment, for example), thus extending the life of the landfill

___________

So basically, you're not producing something, you're getting rid of something. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I thought you try to drive feedbacks up the value chain.

There's a lot you can do with syngas, but you have to set up an extensive downstream operation.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:31 AM (BkEzK)

172
There are chemical weapons in Iraq
-George W Bush, like 20 years ago
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:30 AM (Ud7de)



*Melted Kurds has entered the chat.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 20, 2024 11:31 AM (IXZGh)

173 Identify all the leadership of these companies and let's see how many donated to democrats.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2024 11:31 AM (W/lyH)

174 170 A review of The Ho on Oprah at American Thinker

The woman can talk for 3 minutes and say nothing
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This is news?

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 20, 2024 11:32 AM (W3T6M)

175 The fundamentals for NVDA are pretty extraordinary. They have a very healthy balance sheet and enough cash to make stock buybacks. Demand for their product is off the chart and companies in their vertical are trading at a much higher price. That’s why you have analysts quoting price targets of $140 and up in some cases higher. I don’t think a price around $138 is unrealistic. Also, if you look at some of the trading the big boys are trying to move retail off the trade- why? There are a lot of reasons they are rated either a buy or hold.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 20, 2024 11:29 AM (ibKjr)

The fundamentals for DVDA are pretty extraordinary too.

Posted by: Matt and Trey at September 20, 2024 11:32 AM (dGCAG)

176 Nobody ever investigated the people who were the bs artists in the Obama green energy debacle. As I recall Solyndra made a bunch of people millions mostly off government investment. Republicans were you involved but most were Dems. Same with this present day crap

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 20, 2024 11:32 AM (k2SDB)

177 I am kind of wondering how may mohammedans will be willing to vote for a woman for president?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (lTGtQ)

Not only a woman but a woman married to a Joo.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:32 AM (D9GoZ)

178 The sad thing is with Kuntala the lack of meaning is intentional. I guarantee when she's hectoring you about something, she can be very "clear" indeed.

Posted by: ... at September 20, 2024 11:33 AM (LCr8f)

179 "...projects to make biofuels from cooking fats, oils, greases and plant material...."

Just like with the windmill and solar projects, it sounds good on paper until reality meets the sourcing of raw materials. How were they expecting to get all the oils, fats, and greases to the processing plant? A genie? What is the "carbon footprint" of that process.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 20, 2024 11:33 AM (Rbu5d)

180 As I recall Solyndra made a bunch of people millions mostly off government investment.

What government does is not investment in any meaningful sense of the word. An investment is predicated on an eventual payback.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)

181 As I recall Solyndra made a bunch of people millions mostly off government investment.
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Also left a massive toxic waste cleanup project in their factory.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:33 AM (VdhcA)

182 Hippies have been turning diesel Mercedes into cooking oil Mercedes for decades. Weirdly enough without the need for billions in subsidies.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:34 AM (D9GoZ)

183 If climate alarmists were actually alarmed, the probability of a nuclear mishap somewhere on the planet once in a generation would be more acceptable to them than the global calamity they prophesy. They would acknowledge that reactors have continued to operate in the US with only one incident in nearly 70 years, and that one 45 years ago. They would admit that "sustainable, renewable" options are prohibitively expensive, land-intensive, harmful and unreliable. But they do none of these things.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (Uc8km)

184 I've been mixing E0 and E10 50/50 in my car for a while now. Every so often I run the tank down to fumes and refill with E0

That sounds like a lot of trouble. I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to just add a bottle of Sta-bil to each tankful.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 20, 2024


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The mixing, or the running down to empty? The Exxon convenience store I have near my place sells both E10 and E0; I don't have to go to a separate station for the latter. It's probably not really necessary -- my car is driven every day; it never sits for a week or two at a time, let alone a month.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (J2vNu)

185 4 It's almost like the government is really bad at picking winners but really good at picking losers.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 20, 2024 11:01 AM (17s+e)

This is about us, isn't it.
--harrisandwallz, hopefully

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (Rbu5d)

186 What does Nvidia do/make?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (v6JzV)

187 Biden has 44% approval right now.
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Political people really don't understand the life of the nonpolitical person. They don't just know a little or less, they literally don't know ANYTHING.
Posted by: ... at September 20, 2024 11:30 AM (LCr8f)

Which is why he was close enough to be installed in the first place.

It's somewhat bizarre to be living in this world, where everyone pretends to value "democracy," and to even give two shits for "the little guy."

No they don't. Nobody does. Except moral people operating far outside the reaches of government.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (dGCAG)

188 Kiddy Diddy is disappoint.

The hip hop mogul’s detention comes after a judge denied his release, despite his legal team offering a $50 million surety, which included his Florida mansion on Star Island and his mother’s house.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (L/fGl)

189 If you're not plugging your EV into a solar panel or a wind generator, you're living the lie.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (W/lyH)

190 >>What government does is not investment in any meaningful sense of the word. An investment is predicated on an eventual payback.

They got their money's worth out of their Google investment, just not in a good way.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (LkLld)

191 It's the Obama playbook she's running because Obama is behind her campaign. He's the dick behind the scenes trying to destroy this country.

Don't do interviews unless it's really a campaign rally
Don't have any real policy. Let people project on to
You want they want.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (Ud7de)

192 All we have to do is to wire up one of those alien space craft and turn it on.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 20, 2024 11:23 AM (W3T6M)

Worm holes and warp drives?

Posted by: BignJames at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (AwYPR)

193 132 KAMALA: "In terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams and ambitions for your family and working hard and finding that the American Dream is, for this generation & so many recently, far more elusive than it's been, and we need to deal with that."
===

A run on sentence like that is sure sign of super intelligence.


artificial intelligence. it spits out tokens until it coughs up a "stop" token.

Posted by: anachronda at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (sGtp+)

194 On last night's show, Gutfeld called Kamala, "Chuckles McKneepads". LOL!!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (iODuv)

195 Hippies have been turning diesel Mercedes into cooking oil Mercedes for decades. Weirdly enough without the need for billions in subsidies.
Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:34 AM (D9GoZ)
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Just don't leave your Crisco out in sub-freezing temps.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (VdhcA)

196 75 Guys I have this amazing idea. We harness the power of wind to power ships. 100% green.

Who will give me $100M to see this vision come to life?
Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (D9GoZ)

The French just launched a new cargo ship doing exactly that. Their motto is “When it absolutely, positively, has to be there 6 months from now.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (CYs/R)

197 This redhead on a pier prefers having access to high-quality marine fuel:
http://tiny.cc/nowmzz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)

198 Yeah, but Morning Consult, which has an average error of about 7 in 2020 for state polling in favor of Democrats, said that Kamala was up in all of those states.

You can't argue with that. Leftists call Morning Consult high quality. They labeled it!
--
Ah yes, the one that is showing Trump up only 3 in FL and 4 in TX.

My current favorite is the "Outward Intelligence."
Which, as far as I can tell, did no polling in 2020. But, for some reason, is included in 538, while Rasmussen in excluded.
They are showing a Harris +7 and +6 lead nationally.
Basically, they're the ones propping up her entire average "lead."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (0awbi)

199 192 Worm holes and warp drives?

weft drives > warp drives

Posted by: anachronda at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (sGtp+)

200 Only news of the American Thinker article on The Hos Oprah visit is the audience and Oprah realizing she is a Air Head

Posted by: Skip at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (fwDg9)

201 If one had the money, a possible play would be to buy both Exxon and Nvidia stock. The percentage of each, based on your budget and aversion to risk or how aggressive you'd like your investment to be.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (Q4IgG)

202 Kiddy Diddy is disappoint.

The hip hop mogul’s detention comes after a judge denied his release, despite his legal team offering a $50 million surety, which included his Florida mansion on Star Island and his mother’s house.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice!

Say what now?

Posted by: Diddy's Mom at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (fQmeC)

203 186 What does Nvidia do/make?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (v6JzV

They make GPUs, which are necessary for computer video, AI processing and much more. Industry leader and no on else is even close.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (Ud7de)

204 Biden should have made Kamala the Green Energy Czar. Then she could have done for green energy what she did for the border.

Posted by: Dave at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (nLwaa)

205
If climate alarmists were actually alarmed, the probability of a nuclear mishap somewhere on the planet once in a generation would be more acceptable to them than the global calamity they prophesy.

________

If a cheap, clean, inexhaustible energy source was developed, climate alarmists would be the first to oppose it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:37 AM (BkEzK)

206 Nvidia sells hardware mainly that AI companies use.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:37 AM (D9GoZ)

207 It's almost like the government is really bad at picking winners but really good at picking losers.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 20, 2024 11:01 AM (17s+e)


Can you say earmarks?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2024 11:37 AM (W/lyH)

208 197 This redhead on a pier prefers having access to high-quality marine fuel:

deluxe crayons?

Posted by: anachronda at September 20, 2024 11:37 AM (sGtp+)

209 What does Nvidia do/make?

Chips: CPUs, GPUs, and now, a bespoke AI chip. That's what's generating all the excitement.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:38 AM (xCA6C)

210 197 This redhead on a pier prefers having access to high-quality marine fuel:
http://tiny.cc/nowmzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)

Soul stealer with rose wine and an ice cube in it?

I'm aghast.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:38 AM (Ud7de)

211 Worm holes and warp drives?
Posted by: BignJames at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (AwYPR)

ZPM. (Zero point module)

One of the best mcguffins any writer ever came up with. It just works, because it’s advanced alien tech. No one knows how.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 20, 2024 11:38 AM (CYs/R)

212 What does Nvidia do/make?

Video processing chips which also happen to be really good at the kind of data crunching needed for large language models ("AI").

Posted by: Oddbob at September 20, 2024 11:38 AM (/y8xj)

213 The hip hop mogul’s detention comes after a judge denied his release, despite his legal team offering a $50 million surety, which included his Florida mansion on Star Island and his mother’s house.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (L/fGl)

Which would be roughly equivalent to me offering to give up about 50 dollars, and the keys to my daughter's broke down Fisher Price Playhouse.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:38 AM (dGCAG)

214 This redhead on a pier prefers having access to high-quality marine fuel:
http://tiny.cc/nowmzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


Looks like she should be serving bier at an Oktoberfest somewhere.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:38 AM (v6JzV)

215 Democrats Set Out to Ban Memes

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NO FUN ALLOWED!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)

216 This redhead on a pier prefers having access to high-quality marine fuel:
http://tiny.cc/nowmzz


Modest. This could be a Fen pick.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)

217 These came out yesterday, for those that grease their polls for strippers:

Emmerson; LV screen:
Trump up 4 in NC; 2 in WI; 2 in GA; 1 in AZ; even in PA and NV; down one in MI.

Ok, those are disastrous number for the Casting Couch Hyena.
Ol' Joe was up like 4-6 in all of those but GA and NC by this point.
And pulled away through Oct; narrowing for Trump the last two weeks of Oct.
Trump takes those 1st four, he wins.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 20, 2024 11:22 AM (0awbi)

Oh good grief. You people and your stupid polls.

You need to start predicting the amount of fraud.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 20, 2024 11:39 AM (g8Ew8)

218 189 If you're not plugging your EV into a solar panel or a wind generator, you're living the lie.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (W/lyH)



This

Posted by: haffhowershower at September 20, 2024 11:39 AM (NMT5x)

219 198 Ah yes, the one that is showing Trump up only 3 in FL and 4 in TX.

My current favorite is the "Outward Intelligence."
Which, as far as I can tell, did no polling in 2020. But, for some reason, is included in 538, while Rasmussen in excluded.
They are showing a Harris +7 and +6 lead nationally.
Basically, they're the ones propping up her entire average "lead."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (0awbi)

======

Listen, we have to listen to polls. At least to understand the series.

But we can dismiss everyone who was close to accurate before because they show Trump too close to victory.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:39 AM (GBKbO)

220
Guys I have this amazing idea. We harness the power of wind to power ships. 100% green.

__________

It's not quite a silly idea. Strong lightweight sails, computerized rigging, who knows?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:40 AM (BkEzK)

221 If a cheap, clean, inexhaustible energy source was developed, climate alarmists would be the first to oppose it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


You just described nuclear power plants. Which are ideal for stable power for AI and base load for electricity generation. And they despise it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:40 AM (lTGtQ)

222 This redhead on a pier prefers having access to high-quality marine fuel:
http://tiny.cc/nowmzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)


Hmmmm. I wonder what bait she's using.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2024 11:40 AM (W/lyH)

223 Say what now?
Posted by: Diddy's Mom at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (fQmeC)

Don't play dumb now, mom, you knew what Diddy was doing.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:40 AM (dGCAG)

224 215 Democrats Set Out to Ban Memes

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NO FUN ALLOWED!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl

It would be ironic if that's what sets off CW2

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:40 AM (Ud7de)

225 The Department of Of Obfuscation And Zero-Meaning Department?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 20, 2024 11:28 AM (d9fT1)


I am the tsar of that.! -- K. Harris.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 20, 2024 11:40 AM (AiZBA)

226 So basically, you're not producing something, you're getting rid of something. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I thought you try to drive feedbacks up the value chain.

There's a lot you can do with syngas, but you have to set up an extensive downstream operation.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:31 AM (BkEzK)

Nope - first off, it's not a syn-gas - it's a pyrolysis gas. And the number one goal for folks like WM, Republic Waste, Waste Connections, etc is extending the life of the landfill since each additional year means huge profits. Thus, offering a tip fee to those type of companies that is substantially less than their typical customer landfill tip fee, along with sales of char to cement makers and the additional electrical power for their operations, gives these waste companies extended profits far exceeding the capital costs involved.

Posted by: Boswell at September 20, 2024 11:40 AM (V7158)

227 Didn't read it but Bootybuddy thinks his EV charging station program is doing well though not many have been built.

Posted by: Skip at September 20, 2024 11:41 AM (fwDg9)

228 This redhead on a pier prefers having access to high-quality marine fuel:
http://tiny.cc/nowmzz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)

There might be a P47 at the bottom of that lake.

Posted by: BignJames at September 20, 2024 11:41 AM (AwYPR)

229 Guys I have this amazing idea. We harness the power of wind to power ships. 100% green.

__________

It's not quite a silly idea. Strong lightweight sails, computerized rigging, who knows?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:40 AM (BkEzK)

What happens when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?

You meant to go to Tahiti, you ended up on Gilligan's Island.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:41 AM (dGCAG)

230 There are no "unexpected losses." As soon as a Democrat is elected, the con men line up for their subsidy. After they bleed the green energy company dry, they declare BK.

Of course, the Bidens of this dark world get their vig from the last of the money.

Posted by: PJU at September 20, 2024 11:41 AM (RRCAT)

231 I may have just turned another kamala vote into a vote for RFK Jr. I asked him to read Jr's speech suspending his campaign and endorsement of PDT.

Folks here will NEVER vote for an R. But, a vote NOT for Kamala is a step in the right direction.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 20, 2024 11:41 AM (6rW2x)

232 I think we should try to harness the unlimited potential of pickleball.

Some kind of impedance panel embedded in the court surface. And a grunt-capturing sonic transference membrane.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 20, 2024 11:41 AM (991eG)

233 Show me a company that wouldn't GLADLY switch to a new energy source -- if it were better, cleaner, cheaper, more accessible, proven capable. I dare you. There's not a single company out there that wouldn't trade in diesel trucks for ones running on dog feces or water or whatever wonder fuel you've come up with, if it was going to be worth their while.

Just look at the extensive overhaul -- and embarrassing reversal -- the car companies have gone through after being promised the next big thing was EVs (and subsequently realizing it was all smoke, mirrors, and evaporating subsidies).

The alternative just has to be worth it. And so far, none of them have been.

Posted by: red speck at September 20, 2024 11:41 AM (0Id0S)

234 What happens when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?

You meant to go to Tahiti, you ended up on Gilligan's Island.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:41 AM (dGCAG)
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There's this maneuver called "tacking"...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:42 AM (VdhcA)

235 227 Didn't read it but Bootybuddy thinks his EV charging station program is doing well though not many have been built.

quality has a quantity all its own

Posted by: bootybuddy at September 20, 2024 11:42 AM (sGtp+)

236 >>What government does is not investment in any meaningful sense of the word. An investment is predicated on an eventual payback.

They got their money's worth out of their Google investment, just not in a good way.


Fair enough. As someone who made his living on government-based science, I've seen some successes. DARPA, ONR, NSF and others all fund some good work. However, the problem is when the science becomes politicized, as it is now. That is NOT an investment.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:42 AM (xCA6C)

237
Posted by: Boswell at September 20, 2024 11:40 AM (V715

________

Thanks. I will now cease my ill-informed comments about this. You now see why I was at the bottom of every org chart I was on.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:42 AM (BkEzK)

238 In 2020, Trump won Texas by about 5 points. There’s no reason to believe he’ll do any worse this time, and a lot of reasons to believe he’ll do much better. (So any poll showing less than that is very suspect)

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 20, 2024 11:42 AM (CYs/R)

239 Why didn’t Diddy just fly to a country with no extradition treaty and stay there? He could pay off the local po-po and live a life of luxury unencumbered.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:43 AM (D9GoZ)

240 This redhead on a pier prefers having access to high-quality marine fuel:
http://tiny.cc/nowmzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)


I can overlook her blouse missing a few buttons, but her boots could be a little more form fitting.

Posted by: haffhowershower at September 20, 2024 11:43 AM (NMT5x)

241 You meant to go to Tahiti, you ended up on Gilligan's Island.
Posted by: BurtTC


And that could lead to being up on Ginger and Maryanne.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:43 AM (v6JzV)

242 UN Adopts Resolution Effectively Barring Israel from Self-defense Against Terror

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Selfish sumbitches just want to live without considering the bigger picture!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:43 AM (L/fGl)

243 I may have just turned another kamala vote into a vote for RFK Jr. I asked him to read Jr's speech suspending his campaign and endorsement of PDT.

Folks here will NEVER vote for an R. But, a vote NOT for Kamala is a step in the right direction.

Posted by: nurse ratched


The first half of that speech was probably the best I have ever heard.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 11:43 AM (lTGtQ)

244 @72

>>Which would you rather be buying right now?

** raises hand **

You buy both.

Portfolio Diversification is the name of the long range game.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 20, 2024 11:43 AM (XV/Pl)

245 238 In 2020, Trump won Texas by about 5 points. There’s no reason to believe he’ll do any worse this time, and a lot of reasons to believe he’ll do much better. (So any poll showing less than that is very suspect)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 20, 2024 11:42 AM (CYs/R)

======

Especially with the state seemingly finally taking voter registration poll cleanup seriously.

Red states are going to get a lot redder. Blue states are going to get redder because the focus on the cheat won't be there and a win by 5 is as good as a win by 10.

But purple states are going to take weeks to count to barely give Kamala a victory.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:43 AM (GBKbO)

246 I may have just turned another kamala vote into a vote for RFK Jr. I asked him to read Jr's speech suspending his campaign and endorsement of PDT.

Folks here will NEVER vote for an R. But, a vote NOT for Kamala is a step in the right direction.

Posted by: nurse ratched
===

Good thinking and well played!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 20, 2024 11:44 AM (17s+e)

247 What happens when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?

You meant to go to Tahiti, you ended up on Gilligan's Island.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:41 AM (dGCAG)
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There's this maneuver called "tacking"...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:42 AM (VdhcA)

I know. I use that for putting up my Farrah Fawcett posters.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:44 AM (dGCAG)

248 I put the sell order in for NVDA the day after I bought it. No, it's not at NVDA's old highs but an attainable expectation before the bubble breaks. You really want to speculate go INTC. I'm there too.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 20, 2024 11:44 AM (IjJkn)

249 Posted by: Skip at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (fwDg9)

Not only is she an airhead, she sounds like she's on tranquilizers her speaking style is so slow.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 20, 2024 11:44 AM (dTTBf)

250 “Just look at the extensive overhaul -- and embarrassing reversal -- the car companies have gone through after being promised the next big thing was EVs (and subsequently realizing it was all smoke, mirrors, and evaporating subsidies).“

The most pathetic part was that they were supposed to be technically skilled companies, and they fell for a bunch of politicians who knew nothing about tech telling them what to do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 20, 2024 11:44 AM (CYs/R)

251 I think we should try to harness the unlimited potential of pickleball.

Some kind of impedance panel embedded in the court surface. And a grunt-capturing sonic transference membrane.
Posted by: Muldoon


The National Pickleball Commissioner, Mr. Doof D. Doof, would have to sign off on this plan.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:45 AM (v6JzV)

252 247 What happens when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?

You meant to go to Tahiti, you ended up on Gilligan's Island.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:41 AM (dGCAG)
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There's this maneuver called "tacking"...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:42 AM (VdhcA)

========

I learned how to tack, well theoretically learned, when I wrote my Battle of Lake Erie book.

I was paying close attention to the winds as described in first hand accounts, realized that the Lawrence couldn't go in that direction but it did, and I had to figure out why.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:45 AM (GBKbO)

253 Fair enough. As someone who made his living on government-based science, I've seen some successes. DARPA, ONR, NSF and others all fund some good work. However, the problem is when the science becomes politicized, as it is now. That is NOT an investment.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:42 AM (xCA6C)

Same.
With DARPA, DOD, etc.
Some great technology but far too many get swallowed by the bigger companies who don't want the competition.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2024 11:45 AM (W/lyH)

254 What happens when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?

You meant to go to Tahiti, you ended up on Gilligan's Island.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024


***
You have to tack, of course, just as the HM capital ships and the clipper ships all did.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:45 AM (J2vNu)

255 This redhead on a pier prefers having access to high-quality marine fuel:
http://tiny.cc/nowmzz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)

There might be a P47 at the bottom of that lake.
Posted by: BignJames

Been there, done that...and the plane at the bottom of a lake thing too.

Posted by: Dirk Pitt at September 20, 2024 11:45 AM (fQmeC)

256 Damn fanatic!

Judo Champion Is Banned For Five Months For Making The Sign Of The Cross When He Competed At Olympic Games

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But blasphemous last supper was praiseworthy!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:46 AM (L/fGl)

257 The most pathetic part was that they were supposed to be technically skilled companies, and they fell for a bunch of politicians who knew nothing about tech telling them what to do.

They didn't fall for it, they knew what they were doing. They're counting on taxpayers making them whole, and in the meantime, they stay in the government's good graces.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:46 AM (xCA6C)

258 Thanks. I will now cease my ill-informed comments about this. You now see why I was at the bottom of every org chart I was on.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:42 AM (BkEzK)

Ha - Hadrian - your comment is the first time I've heard anyone mention syn-gas here - and we have a lot of engineers commenting, so I was surprised!

Posted by: Boswell at September 20, 2024 11:46 AM (V7158)

259 I learned how to tack, well theoretically learned, when I wrote my Battle of Lake Erie book.

I was paying close attention to the winds as described in first hand accounts, realized that the Lawrence couldn't go in that direction but it did, and I had to figure out why.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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There is an excellent book called "Seamanship in the Age of Sail." Large format, lots of illustrations. Highly recommended if you're interested in learning about how the tall ships worked.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (VdhcA)

260 Looks like this Tim Echols character never held an honest job in his life. How many fleas and ticks do the American body politic have?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (z1PMu)

261
You have to tack, of course, just as the HM capital ships and the clipper ships all did.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:45 AM (J2vNu)

__________

Or take in your sails and use the engine.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (BkEzK)

262 I can overlook her blouse missing a few buttons, but her boots could be a little more form fitting.
Posted by: haffhowershower at September 20, 2024


***
The boots could be missing entirely. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (J2vNu)

263 What happens when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?


That's the wind for the return trip.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (W/lyH)

264 “Clean-Fuel Startups Were Supposed to Be the Next Big Thing, Now They Are Collapsing; Hydrogen and biofuel projects have become money pits” [WSJ – 8/18/2024]

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Unexpectedly.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party is a Domestic Terrorist Organization at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (P3VPf)

265 All of these people believing that Green shit is the Holy Grail of Perpetual Prosperity are lunatics.

Coal, oil, gas, nuclear are where it has always been. Enough with the foolishness.

Then, again, - beans!

Posted by: Dr. Puffy Combs at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (nDTFN)

266 205 If a cheap, clean, inexhaustible energy source was developed, climate alarmists would be the first to oppose it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:37 AM (BkEzK)


Because they want everyone (Except them) to live in Stone Age conditions so Gaia can heal.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 20, 2024 11:48 AM (RjOoY)

267 Or take in your sails and use the engine.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (BkEzK)

Or just stay on dry land.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:48 AM (dGCAG)

268 What happens when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?
*
That's the wind for the return trip.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2024


***
"Reef the main tops'l, Mister Bush!"

Posted by: Capt. H. Hornblower, RN at September 20, 2024 11:48 AM (J2vNu)

269 Kiddy Diddy is disappoint.
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When this all came out a few months back, someone found a clip of him on Nickelodeon.
It was a skit where one kid wouldn't wake up.
So Diddy advises the other kid to stuff various items down the sleeping kid's pants.

Creepy f'ing groomer vibes; telling kids to play with below the belt.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 20, 2024 11:49 AM (0awbi)

270 What happens when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?
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That's the wind for the return trip.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (W/lyH)

So there's what... like a storage space on the boat where you put the return trip winds?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:49 AM (dGCAG)

271 I saw Decivilizational Jihad open for The Dead Ringers just earlier this week ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party is a Domestic Terrorist Organization at September 20, 2024 11:50 AM (P3VPf)

272 My assumption is modern ships are too heavy to be powered by sails. But I know not how these things work.

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:51 AM (D9GoZ)

273 Why do the greenies never talk about steam? That's natural, renewable, and seemed to work pretty well for ships and trains. The first automobile (1770) used it, too. Seems like we could be doing more with that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:51 AM (v6JzV)

274 I can overlook her blouse missing a few buttons, but her boots could be a little more form fitting.
Posted by: haffhowershower

Boots are made for knocking...

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 20, 2024 11:51 AM (fQmeC)

275 Excellent work again, Buck.

I’d venture that this entire debacle is a demonstration of both massive corruption and collapsed public intelligence.

You might want to lay out the basics of private vs. public goods in one of these posts, as that framework is the right one clarifying most of these issues right up front.

GA seems like a particularly pernicious “ruby red state”, possibly the worst? The stupidity and corruption (of the GOP, and clearly most of their voters) give AZ a run for its money.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 20, 2024 11:51 AM (SSuxC)

276 If these prominent corporations and their woke CEOs decided to invest in a new line of perpetual motion machines, it wouldn’t be any more laughable than the “clean energy” investments into which they flushed away their shareholders’ cash.

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Cold Fusion FTW!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party is a Domestic Terrorist Organization at September 20, 2024 11:52 AM (P3VPf)

277
Haven't heard shit from them in a looooong time.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 20, 2024 11:14 AM (Ud7de)

GAO: [wipes tears of laughter...]

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 20, 2024 11:53 AM (Rbu5d)

278 What happens when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?

Pull my finger.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 20, 2024 11:53 AM (wQVbQ)

279 I hope this isn't true. It's one thing not to waste money on network TV ads, it's another to ignore social media.

Harris outspending Trump 20-to-1 on Meta platforms Facebook, Instagram: NYT analysis

https://tinyurl.com/kep5cazw

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:53 AM (xCA6C)

280 Cold Fusion FTW!
Posted by: ShainS
++++
That one is evergreen.

What do cold fusion, Iran and Brazil have in common?

They're all always just 10 years away.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:54 AM (HnUIn)

281 OT, but that Nancy Mace deal with the texts is certainly something, eh?

Whew... someone will be having a very uncomfortable conversation with his wife I suspect...

Posted by: Inogame at September 20, 2024 11:54 AM (53oGX)

282 Things that Trump should do on Day 1 if elected #33 : get the US out of the UN. Those corrupt ignoramuses have gotten enough of our money since 1946 and gotten pretty much nothing correct

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 20, 2024 11:54 AM (k2SDB)

283 In the U.S., the slow rollout of domestic subsidies and weak demand is pushing Plug Power and competitors such as Electric Hydrogen to expand overseas, upending expectations from when the climate law passed.

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Please tell me that Germany will name it's prototype Hindenburg 2: Hydrogen-Fuel Boogaloo.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party is a Domestic Terrorist Organization at September 20, 2024 11:55 AM (P3VPf)

284 264 “Clean-Fuel Startups Were Supposed to Be the Next Big Thing, Now They Are Collapsing; Hydrogen and biofuel projects have become money pits” [WSJ – 8/18/2024]

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Unexpectedly.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party is a Domestic Terrorist Organization at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (P3VPf)

Hydrogen. Hmmm - remember the Hindenburg?
With a hydrogen powered vehicle, what happens in a crash when the tank is compromised? While it may not burn as long as a Tesla, the inferno is sure to be just as spectacular and devastating.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 20, 2024 11:55 AM (N39Ws)

285 Ever notice when a Gov Agency fails to do their job...they "lack funding"?

Posted by: BignJames at September 20, 2024 11:55 AM (AwYPR)

286 281 OT, but that Nancy Mace deal with the texts is certainly something, eh?

Whew... someone will be having a very uncomfortable conversation with his wife I suspect...
Posted by: Inogame at September 20, 2024 11:54 AM (53oGX)

=======

No male reporter is going to be nice to her in private again. She essentially burned a source, to reverse the metaphor.

That's probably a good thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:55 AM (GBKbO)

287 OT, but that Nancy Mace deal with the texts is certainly something, eh?

And she showed a nice hint of cleavage. If the whole politician thing doesn't work out, she could sell cell phones and pagers.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:55 AM (xCA6C)

288 > Guys I have this amazing idea. We harness the power of wind to power ships. 100% green
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There are these wind turbines that spin in the vertical axis... don't recall what they're called but they're popular with the off-grid crowd. Huge ones have been installed on commercial vessels to augment their diesel power.

They're geared to the ship's prop(s).

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 20, 2024 11:56 AM (Q4IgG)

289 282 Things that Trump should do on Day 1 if elected #33 : get the US out of the UN. Those corrupt ignoramuses have gotten enough of our money since 1946 and gotten pretty much nothing correct
Posted by: Smell the Glove
--------------------------

The JD Vance / Tucker Carlson interview is interesting.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 20, 2024 11:56 AM (IjJkn)

290 The whackos have designated what part of nature is good and what part is evil.

Natural resources like oil and coal and uranium are evil while hydrogen , cobalt and lithium are good.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 20, 2024 11:56 AM (D6PGr)

291 I hope this isn't true. It's one thing not to waste money on network TV ads, it's another to ignore social media.

Harris outspending Trump 20-to-1 on Meta platforms Facebook, Instagram: NYT analysis

https://tinyurl.com/kep5cazw
Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:53 AM (xCA6C)

Your concern is noted.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 20, 2024 11:57 AM (g8Ew8)

292 22 Hydrogen!
The fuel of the future.
And always will be.
Free drinks tomorrow!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 20, 2024 11:06 AM (KitMy)


Hydrogen as a widespread-use commercial fuel is only economically feasible using nuclear energy to supply the electricity to crack water molecules to get free hydrogen. Massive use of nuclear would give the greenie-weenies everything they claim to want. But Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Three-Mile Island, and Chernobyl. Idiots. Useful idiots to Our Betters.

Posted by: Gref at September 20, 2024 11:57 AM (aBgBM)

293 What happens when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?
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Pull my finger.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 20, 2024 11:53 AM (wQVbQ)

Heh, this is my problem, because I so often say stupid things, when I ACT stupid on purpose, most people here don't realize it's an act.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:57 AM (dGCAG)

294 From what I've read one of the main problems with hydrogen fuel cells is leaking hydrogen. Has that issue been resolved?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 20, 2024 11:57 AM (k2SDB)

295 286 281 OT, but that Nancy Mace deal with the texts is certainly something, eh?

Whew... someone will be having a very uncomfortable conversation with his wife I suspect...
Posted by: Inogame at September 20, 2024 11:54 AM (53oGX)

=======

No male reporter is going to be nice to her in public again. She essentially burned a source, to reverse the metaphor.

That's probably a good thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 11:55 AM (GBKbO)

Did she though? I mean Dyson called her a racist on what used to be considered national TV. Only to text her for pics later... I hardly look at that as blowing up a source. Maybe pantsing a grifter?

Posted by: Inogame at September 20, 2024 11:57 AM (53oGX)

296 Diversity is our strength. Recent arrival Uber driver kills woman passenger in Indiana. Gets even better, he blamed the murder on a black guy initially..

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:57 AM (D9GoZ)

297 I hope this isn't true. It's one thing not to waste money on network TV ads, it's another to ignore social media.

Harris outspending Trump 20-to-1 on Meta platforms Facebook, Instagram: NYT analysis

https://tinyurl.com/kep5cazw
Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:53 AM (xCA6C)



Well, Trump IS a stupid doodyhead and has no clue what he's doing and never learns anything.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 20, 2024 11:58 AM (IXZGh)

298 No male reporter is going to be nice to her in private again. She essentially burned a source, to reverse the metaphor.

Hitting on someone in "private" after blasting her in public isn't exactly being nice.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 20, 2024 11:58 AM (/y8xj)

299 This makes me laugh - United Airlines diverted money that might have otherwise been used for Capex or improving operations to engage in green virtue signaling. The money is gone…

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I know some of our lawyers here have explained to me why it's not happening, but I still don't understand why there haven't been hundreds -- if not thousands -- of shareholder class action lawsuits owing to C-Suite Virtue Signalers literally lighting millions and millions of corporate dollars on fire, be it this idiocy & fraud, the DIE idiocy & fraud, the BLM idiocy & fraud, the tranny idiocy & fraud, et. al.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party is a Domestic Terrorist Organization at September 20, 2024 11:58 AM (P3VPf)

300 wow sidebar Judo guy

am love

he's amazing

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 20, 2024 11:58 AM (s3qiR)

301 I hope this isn't true. It's one thing not to waste money on network TV ads, it's another to ignore social media.

Harris outspending Trump 20-to-1 on Meta platforms Facebook, Instagram: NYT analysis

https://tinyurl.com/kep5cazw
Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:53 AM (xCA6C)

Your concern is noted.


Got anything useful to say, or is that about it for you.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)

302 Or take in your sails and use the engine.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:47 AM (BkEzK)

Or just stay on dry land.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2024 11:48 AM (dGCAG)

Great idea! This guy gets it.

Posted by: Chief Brody at September 20, 2024 11:59 AM (Aqu9a)

303 298 No male reporter is going to be nice to her in private again. She essentially burned a source, to reverse the metaphor.

Hitting on someone in "private" after blasting her in public isn't exactly being nice.


yeah he's a creep! how is that sleaze "nice"?!?!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 20, 2024 11:59 AM (s3qiR)

304 An edit just in case:
Hydrogen as a widespread-use commercial fuel is only economically feasible using nuclear energy to supply the electricity to crack water molecules to get hydrogen ATOMS.

Posted by: Gref at September 20, 2024 11:59 AM (aBgBM)

305 285 Ever notice when a Gov Agency fails to do their job...they "lack funding"?
Posted by: BignJames at September 20, 2024 11:55 AM (AwYPR)

I mean yeah!!!
- every school district

Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:59 AM (D9GoZ)

306
But Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Three-Mile Island, and Chernobyl. Idiots. Useful idiots to Our Betters.
Posted by: Gref at September 20, 2024 11:57 AM (aBgBM)

__________

Pro tip: Don't depend on Russian designs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 11:59 AM (BkEzK)

307 Dyson berated Mace when they were on a panel together on CNN on August 16 for pronouncing the vice president's name 'ka-MAH-la' instead of 'KA-mah-la.'

Posted by: Braenyard at September 20, 2024 12:00 PM (IjJkn)

308 303 298 No male reporter is going to be nice to her in private again. She essentially burned a source, to reverse the metaphor.

Hitting on someone in "private" after blasting her in public isn't exactly being nice.


yeah he's a creep! how is that sleaze "nice"?!?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 20, 2024 11:59 AM (s3qiR)

=======

"I could cozy up to her after blasting her in public, like we do for every other politician, but I won't because she has a history of exposing people who do that as two-faced assholes."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)

309 Outstanding as always, and close to home for me:
“I mean, would you ever think that a ruby-red state like Georgia would capture so much of this clean energy money?"

Georgia is purple at best, probably solid blue due to incompetence and corruption. How does a "ruby-red" state get two demokkkrat senators?

Posted by: Roger Ball at September 20, 2024 12:01 PM (C8ve7)

310
Nud

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2024 12:01 PM (BkEzK)

311 Dyson berated Mace when they were on a panel together on CNN on August 16 for pronouncing the vice president's name 'ka-MAH-la' instead of 'KA-mah-la.'

Posted by: Braenyard at September 20, 2024 12:00 PM (IjJkn)



Then, he slid into her DM's and suggested he slide his DM into her.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 20, 2024 12:01 PM (IXZGh)

312 Nood, upstairs

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 20, 2024 12:01 PM (xmBKs)

313 "I could cozy up to her after blasting her in public, like we do for every other politician, but I won't because she has a history of exposing people who do that as two-faced assholes."

Kinda ruins their whole business model.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 20, 2024 12:02 PM (/y8xj)

314 309 Outstanding as always, and close to home for me:
“I mean, would you ever think that a ruby-red state like Georgia would capture so much of this clean energy money?"

Georgia is purple at best, probably solid blue due to incompetence and corruption. How does a "ruby-red" state get two demokkkrat senators?
Posted by: Roger Ball at September 20, 2024 12:01 PM (C8ve7)

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By the Republican SoS allowing Fulton County to break laws and run the same ballots through machines multiple times while on camera?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 12:02 PM (GBKbO)

315 NOOD ye foolz, NOOD

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 20, 2024 12:02 PM (7ZSvO)

316 I know some of our lawyers here have explained to me why it's not happening, but I still don't understand why there haven't been hundreds -- if not thousands -- of shareholder class action lawsuits owing to C-Suite Virtue Signalers literally lighting millions and millions of corporate dollars on fire, be it this idiocy & fraud, the DIE idiocy & fraud, the BLM idiocy & fraud, the tranny idiocy & fraud, et. al.

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I should have included the key phrase there: "for violating their fiduciary responsibilities."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party is a Domestic Terrorist Organization at September 20, 2024 12:02 PM (P3VPf)

317 I'll address something that I have some familiarity with, IC engines-to wit-until and unless an alternate is discovered that eclipses ALL the advantages of the present system this is what we'll be tooling around with. As yet, nothing has proven more effective and scalable than oil.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at September 20, 2024 12:02 PM (hKoQL)

318 Hitting on someone in "private" after blasting her in public isn't exactly being nice.
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yeah he's a creep! how is that sleaze "nice"?!?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid
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Putting her down got his hormones up. Not going to cost her any true male confidants.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 20, 2024 12:02 PM (IjJkn)

319 In some cases, the problems are internal. Alder Fuels, a startup turning biomass into fuel, is continuing to work on its technology after founder and CEO Bryan Sherbacow was found guilty of embezzling, then replaced, a spokesman said.

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Unexpectedly!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party is a Domestic Terrorist Organization at September 20, 2024 12:03 PM (P3VPf)

320 Oh good grief. You people and your stupid polls.

You need to start predicting the amount of fraud.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons
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Margin of Fraud:
Final average of polls in PA in 2020: Biden 4.7%
Actual results: Biden 1.2%
Off in the D favor by 3.5%.
That 1.2% win, when the polls showed 4.7%, needed:
1) everyone sent a mail-in ballot,
2) every ballot counted even if a) missing signature, b) missing date, c) missing postmark, d) missing security envelope, e) 110% precinct turnout in Philly and Pitt.
3) counting shut down at 3am and observers kicked out
4) ballots counted for WEEKS after the election

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 20, 2024 12:03 PM (0awbi)

321
And she showed a nice hint of cleavage. If the whole politician thing doesn't work out, she could sell cell phones and pagers.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 20, 2024 11:55 AM (xCA6C)


This has nothing to do with Nancy Mace, or any woman for that matter, but I bet Hersballsoff bought those pagers from an ad they saw on OnlyRams. Their tagline is "hetero bestialiaty is for fags".

Posted by: haffhowershower at September 20, 2024 12:03 PM (NMT5x)

322
"America has an addiction to oil."
-George W. Bush, like, 20 years ago


That's like saying American has an addiction to energy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 20, 2024 12:03 PM (63Dwl)

323 Why do the greenies never talk about steam? That's natural, renewable, and seemed to work pretty well for ships and trains. The first automobile (1770) used it, too. Seems like we could be doing more with that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 20, 2024 11:51 AM (v6JzV)

We could use coal, wood, or oil to fire the boiler!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 20, 2024 12:03 PM (iODuv)

324 Sen. Ossoff is delivering $3,096,047 to LanzaJet, a sustainable aviation fuel producer, to support their new production facility in Soperton, Georgia…
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They'll name stuff after him. I think that's probably half the point. Half of West Virginia is named after Byrd.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 20, 2024 11:07 AM (HnUIn)

Guaranteed that plant shuts down in a year or two, when the inescapable fact that it takes more energy to make energy than you get by selling it emerges.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 20, 2024 12:04 PM (odUHk)

325 @317 should read efficient instead of effective. My apology for the fatfinger.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at September 20, 2024 12:04 PM (hKoQL)

326 By the Republican SoS allowing Fulton County to break laws and run the same ballots through machines multiple times while on camera?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 20, 2024 12:02 PM (GBKbO)

It ain’t the votes they created but possibly the votes they suppressed. The voter turnout of Republicans in the run offs were down by approximately 400k .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 20, 2024 12:04 PM (D6PGr)

327 I saw Sherpacow open for the B-52s at Capitol Theater in '80.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party is a Domestic Terrorist Organization at September 20, 2024 12:04 PM (P3VPf)

328 Guys I have this amazing idea. We harness the power of wind to power ships. 100% green.

Who will give me $100M to see this vision come to life?
Posted by: News Update at September 20, 2024 11:16 AM (D9GoZ)

Well, you could do that. Add mechanized roller-furled sails, or maybe Savonius rotors to diesel-powered ships, and you could realize some fuel saving when winds were favorable. In the world of yachts "motor sailers" are a thing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 20, 2024 12:13 PM (odUHk)

329 Hydrogen as a widespread-use commercial fuel is only economically feasible using nuclear energy to supply the electricity to crack water molecules to get hydrogen ATOMS.

Posted by: Gref


The problem with hydrogen is that the atoms are so small, it makes leaks easy.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 20, 2024 12:19 PM (lTGtQ)

330 Diddy, about whom? I know crap, is on suicide watch.

Wonder if he knows that....
Posted by: Stateless at September 20, 2024 11:27 AM (jvJvP)

That worked out so well for Epstein.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 20, 2024 12:20 PM (odUHk)

331 The hip hop mogul’s detention comes after a judge denied his release, despite his legal team offering a $50 million surety, which included his Florida mansion on Star Island and his mother’s house.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 20, 2024 11:35 AM (L/fGl)

Little Diddy Diddy can't
Go home.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 20, 2024 12:26 PM (odUHk)

332 Hmmmm. I wonder what bait she's using.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2024 11:40 AM (W/lyH)

A couple of wobblers?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 20, 2024 12:30 PM (odUHk)

333 There are these wind turbines that spin in the vertical axis... don't recall what they're called but they're popular with the off-grid crowd. Huge ones have been installed on commercial vessels to augment their diesel power.

They're geared to the ship's prop(s).
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 20, 2024 11:56 AM (Q4IgG)

Anton Flettner, in the 1920's IIRC, built a ship called The Rotor, which used that principle. There were problems.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 20, 2024 12:37 PM (odUHk)

334 An edit just in case:
Hydrogen as a widespread-use commercial fuel is only economically feasible using nuclear energy to supply the electricity to crack water molecules to get hydrogen ATOMS.
Posted by: Gref at September 20, 2024 11:59 AM (aBgBM)

It's much cheaper to get hydrogen by reforming methane.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 20, 2024 12:40 PM (odUHk)

335 Another good Morning Rant, Buck. Thanks.

If We The People got something from such ventures in the long-term, it would be palatable.

But track through the corporate structures and find that most neither start or end in this country, and the points of their US affiliation (or ownership) is surprising. Little trickles to 'working' classes.

Energy, manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, building products, industrial and certain consumer products such as, but not limited to chemicals, chips, even clothing, formula & baby food, and those *@#ing windmills...) We've been, and continue to be, fools out here.

It's like this huge, beautiful country is becoming a limited 'island economy.' We're being sucked into crazy. (Stop all fracking but capture carbon underground. Tear out trees to built track homes.

In the long run, it's not a huge cost to use our national resources, with equality & to profit accordingly; broadly & properly educate our children; employ our citizens first; enforce legal safety & health laws in all industries; care for our people of disabilities including our honored Veterans, etc.

And when we're solid, we can help others in need even more in their countries.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 20, 2024 01:02 PM (NFX2v)

336 We have very credulous people in government willing to dole out taxpayer money whenever the words “clean energy” are spoken.

We also have very credulous people in government willing to dole out taxpayer money whenever the words “affordable housing” are spoken. The Fort Collins city council fall to their knees in worship whenever they hear that phrase.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 20, 2024 01:14 PM (TOe+Q)

337 Harnessing Hot Air would make Gore and DiCaprio very useful

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at September 20, 2024 04:31 PM (wGqjj)

338 Pretty! This has been an incredibly wonderful post.
Thank you for supplying this information.

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