Portland Has a Serial Killer Suspected of Murdering Six Women -- and the Person of Interest is a Man That Former Democrat Governor Kate Brown Released from Prison Early

Decarceration means letting killers out of prison so that citizens have to imprison themselves in their homes.

Before she left office, Governor Kate Brown commuted the sentences of people in prison who behaved well while under lock and key. She released others who she were near the end of their sentences, and chose to shorten the "sentences of 912 nonviolent inmates at risk of contracting COVID, granted 130 pardons, cleared death row, and wiped away cannabis possession convictions of nearly 50,000 people," Willamette Week reported.
In December 2022 I wrote in PJ Media that when she was on her way out office, Brown abolished the death penalty.

And now: Tina Brown's partner-in-crime is the chief suspect in the slayings of six innocent women.

Law Enforcement Officials Suspect a Multnomah County Man Released Early From Prison Is a Serial Killer

Jesse Lee Calhoun is in custody but has not yet been charged in any of the deaths of six women earlier this year.
WW has learned that a Multnomah County man is a suspect in the killings of four of six women found dead earlier this year in the greater Portland metro area.
Several people familiar with ongoing investigations in multiple jurisdictions tell WW that detectives have linked four of the deaths to Jesse Lee Calhoun, whose most recent address is in Portland.
Serial killers are unusual, but Calhoun's case, according to people familiar with it, may be one of a kind.
That's because Calhoun, 38, is among the more than 1,000 inmates whom former Gov. Kate Brown granted clemency, allowing them to leave prison early. Of those Brown released early, officials believe Calhoun is the only one whose clemency has since been revoked.
Records show that Calhoun is currently in custody at Snake River Correctional Institution in Ontario, where he was lodged July 6 on charges apparently unrelated to the murders. (The charges on which he is being held do not show up in online court records, which is unusual.) He has not yet been charged in any of the women's deaths, although officials expect that will change.
Calhoun, reportedly a talented artist who told booking officials he earned his living painting designs on vehicles, has a long record of felony convictions dating to 2004. After arresting him in 2018 with meth, several guns, and more than 500 rounds of ammunition, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office called him a "prolific thief and career criminal."

Brown used the Useful Crisis of Covid as a pretext to engage in mass releases of dangerous violent career criminals. (Note that the Useful Crisis of Covid was also used to make the Democrats' preferred form of voting -- fraudulent voting -- the rule in the nation.)

And six women were butchered.

Do we give her an Independent Spirit Award now or do we wait to see how many more murders are linked to this guy?

Meanwhile, a Soros DA in Alameda County, California is subject to a recall campaign, due to her refusal to lock up criminals.

She gave a rare interview to protest this.

She says the victims of the violent felons she frees just aren't appreciative enough of the "restorative justice" she's doing by setting killers free to kill more citizens.

YU: Family members of victims are saying that the decisions you have made are unfair to them, that sentences that criminals have been given are excessively lenient, and the perpetrators are favored over victims. What's your response to that?
PRICE: I feel ... definitely my heart goes out to the people who have lost loved ones in this community. Who is ... we at the District Attorney's office are very very committed to making sure that we're providing the best services. Some people are ... are not able to actually appreciate the work that we do.

Yeah, when your child has been murdered it's hard to appreciate the Soros DA who allowed your child's murderer on the streets.

Her PR person stopped the interview early. When the interviewer said she hoped she would make herself available for future interviews, she laughed and said, "I don't think so."

Posted by: Ace at 06:15 PM

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1 These people are sick. Full stop.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 18, 2023 06:15 PM (5iFFd)

2 HA! First and I wasn't even trying.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at July 18, 2023 06:16 PM (5iFFd)

3 I got $50 that says the killer will turn out to be a trans freak.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2023 06:16 PM (ncXxy)

4 Appreciate? Oh, I think I appreciate it fairly well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2023 06:18 PM (15Elt)

5 Calhoun sounds like a man who was just trying to turn his life around to start his business.

The fact that he uses a little murder here and there to unwind after a tough day shouldn't be held against him, right?

/sarc

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2023 06:18 PM (BpYfr)

6 Fucking garbage humans.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2023 06:19 PM (TZ75n)

7 One thing I don't get. I always thought - and this was true when I was young - that one skill pols had (and had to have) was not giving answers like that. Nowadays, they seem more and more prone to this kind of crap.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 18, 2023 06:19 PM (brAQZ)

8 Calhoun- The Irish aspir___ rapper.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2023 06:20 PM (TZ75n)

9 "Calhoun, reportedly a talented artist who told booking officials he earned his living painting designs on vehicles,"

Yeah, so, take note: dudes who paint wizards and unicorns on Chevy vans are not to be trusted. I knew this intuitively.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2023 06:20 PM (OX9vb)

10 I'm sure Jesse Lee Calhoun appreciated it; He got to murder several women.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2023 06:20 PM (Keyt1)

11 7 One thing I don't get. I always thought - and this was true when I was young - that one skill pols had (and had to have) was not giving answers like that. Nowadays, they seem more and more prone to this kind of crap.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 18, 2023 06:19 PM (brAQZ)

Because they are retards. They are ideologically pure- that is the only consideration. When you do that and you do not look at other things like personability or being able to do your job, this is what you get.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2023 06:21 PM (15Elt)

12 Tina Brown? Kate Brown. Tina was that Brit VF editor. Altho those 2 are prolly soul twins, so whatevs

Posted by: kallisto at July 18, 2023 06:21 PM (U1mEu)

13 starting in the mid to late 1960s, the left started in with 'criminals are victims of racism and oppression and poverty.' in other words, it's because of capitalism. these people will never accept that they are wrong and will continue to believe that crime will end when capitalism is replaced with real socialism.

i recall obama in a debate with hillary in 2008 bringing up the clinton's failure to stick us with national health insurance, and she replied 'we learn from our mistakes.' this time they'll get it right.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 18, 2023 06:22 PM (B1FKF)

14 Yeah, so, take note: dudes who paint wizards and unicorns on Chevy vans are not to be trusted. I knew this intuitively.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2023 06:20 PM (OX9vb)

Counter: Three Wolf Moon and the Firebird on a Trans-Am.

*mic drop*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2023 06:22 PM (15Elt)

15 This story gives me the warm and fuzzies knowing the Illinois State Supreme Court just adjudicated the SAFe-T Act as constitutional.
It basically takes away holding suspects on bail.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Don't Kill at July 18, 2023 06:22 PM (0q+t6)

16 Do we give her an Independent Spirit Award now or do we wait to see how many more murders are linked to this guy?p/i[

NO

Now we choreograph and perform six separate line dances to memorialize each of the serial killers' victims.

For the children.

Posted by: kallisto at July 18, 2023 06:22 PM (U1mEu)

17 Because they are retards. They are ideologically pure- that is the only consideration. When you do that and you do not look at other things like personability or being able to do your job, this is what you get.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Yep. And a spineless, compliant press to never hold them accountable.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2023 06:23 PM (TZ75n)

18 algonquin j calhoun, attorney at law!

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 18, 2023 06:23 PM (B1FKF)

19 Re: Hunters coke

Looked it up

Two senior law enforcement officials told CBS News that there was 207.6 milligrams, or .007 ounces, of cocaine discovered, according to an FBI analysis.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2023 06:24 PM (cMXNt)

20 Better hope no family member of mine is harmed.
Just sayin'.
I can...write a powerfully strong worded letter. Yeah. That's it. A letter. You don want to see a letter from me.
Same applies to your fornicating child molesting perverts.
Up yours Oregon.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2023 06:24 PM (e4fEA)

21 Depraved indifference?

That used to be a thing.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 18, 2023 06:24 PM (DsA2n)

22 Decarceration means letting killers out of prison so that citizens have to imprison themselves in their homes.
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...Who are the real victims, here.

Posted by: Just Another Soros DA at July 18, 2023 06:25 PM (krQz2)

23 DA Price in that same interview claimed DAs have very little effect on crime rates. She says this immediately after blaming her predecessor for high crime rates.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2023 06:25 PM (V1QHJ)

24 Looked it up

Two senior law enforcement officials told CBS News that there was 207.6 milligrams, or .007 ounces, of cocaine discovered, according to an FBI analysis.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2023 06:24 PM (cMXNt)

Is that a lot? (I do not know drugs.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2023 06:25 PM (15Elt)

25 Jesse Lee Calhoun definitely has a serial killer name.

Isnt it great that Soros DAs never have to apologized for their in(actions)? Must be nice to have a job where you literally do not have to prosecute criminals.

Posted by: Czech Chick at July 18, 2023 06:26 PM (6Tc2R)

26 Here is the rub. Those women likely voted for Brown, and if they could be revived, they would do it again.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 18, 2023 06:26 PM (pohLc)

27 Depraved indifference?

That used to be a thing.

-----

It's still a thing.

Posted by: We're from the Government and we're here at July 18, 2023 06:26 PM (RLLZj)

28 Most of the people harmed by crimes committed by black people are black. Her argument about the racist justice system is stupid and I just wish someone running for something sometime would make that point.

Posted by: huerfano at July 18, 2023 06:27 PM (7zEAH)

29 Self imprisonment in your home is no good, they break in there too!

Posted by: astonerii at July 18, 2023 06:27 PM (B9VxK)

30 Is that a lot? (I do not know drugs.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD

For a true patriot or right-leaning person - yes!!

The scum of the earth? Oh please.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 18, 2023 06:27 PM (MJIed)

31 Better hope no family member of mine is harmed.
Just sayin'.
I can...write a powerfully strong worded letter. Yeah. That's it. A letter. You don want to see a letter from me.
Same applies to your fornicating child molesting perverts.
Up yours Oregon.
Posted by: Diogenes

Paper cut that'll take your head off.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2023 06:28 PM (R/ItY)

32 Semi-related: Yesterday, authorities identified the four victims of the spree shooter in Hampton, Georgia, and the local media post their photos. Nearly 3 days after it happened. Mental health issues blamed. I guess that's the end of it. Just leave it at that.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 18, 2023 06:28 PM (wzAuc)

33 Self imprisonment in your home is no good, they break in there too!
Posted by: astonerii at July 18, 2023 06:27 PM (B9VxK)
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And NO guns there either!!

Posted by: Elites Who Just Really Want You Gone at July 18, 2023 06:28 PM (krQz2)

34 Must be nice to have a job where you literally do not have to prosecute criminals.
Posted by: Czech Chick at July 18, 2023 06:26 PM (6Tc2R)

-

It is nice. But then I'm a librarian. I just have to shush people.

Posted by: Just Lily at July 18, 2023 06:29 PM (RLLZj)

35 Downtown Julie Brown > Tina Brown > Kate Brown

Posted by: Brown hierarchy at July 18, 2023 06:29 PM (uoAlb)

36 Gee, so many oddly familiar looking people in prison for life?
I wonder why.

Posted by: wth at July 18, 2023 06:29 PM (v0R5T)

37 To be fair, she only let him out a year early.

Save some outrage for a system that gave him such light sentences in the first place.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 18, 2023 06:29 PM (xEiK5)

38 I have no problem with the pot possession convictions being overturned, its legal in Oregon now. I would maintain it for a heavy dealer, like a dude with several bales in his camper, but not some guy with a baggie full.

There is something fundamentally unjust about holding someone in prison for doing something that is now deemed legal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:30 PM (0hOvj)

39 >>Is that a lot? (I do not know drugs.)

no

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2023 06:30 PM (ZLI7S)

40 Kate Brown accomplished her mission by smashing the carceral state. Sometimes there is a price to be paid in blood, but as long as the junta is not harmed...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2023 06:30 PM (JvZF+)

41 We need our jails clear to house the misgenderers!

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 06:31 PM (krQz2)

42 None dare call it Conspiracy to Commit Murder.

Posted by: ShainS at July 18, 2023 06:31 PM (ppx0p)

43 And as always innocent until proven guilty. But I agree this isn't a good look for Kate Brown, who was one of the worst governors that Oregon has ever suffered under, and that's saying a lot. We haven't had a good one since... the 70s.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:31 PM (0hOvj)

44 Isn't there something in The Revelation how in the end times the criminals with be let loose to roam free and attack the righteous?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at July 18, 2023 06:31 PM (3JfbU)

45 .007 ounces, of cocaine discovered, according to an FBI analysis.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2023 06:24 PM (cMXNt)

Is that a lot? (I do not know drugs.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD

It is an empty bag.
Which is why I really doubt that number is true. With that low an amount, anyone would have just tossed it.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 18, 2023 06:31 PM (xEiK5)

46 Barely a bump.

Posted by: Hunter Biden, Artiste at July 18, 2023 06:31 PM (v0R5T)

47 Oregon and Alameda County voted for these haridans.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 18, 2023 06:31 PM (rJ48h)

48 One thing I don't get. I always thought - and this was true when I was young - that one skill pols had (and had to have) was not giving answers like that. Nowadays, they seem more and more prone to this kind of crap.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 18, 2023 06:19 PM (brAQZ)

Their power is absolute now, so they think. Election fraud will guarantee it.

Plus, they want us dead.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2023 06:32 PM (BdMk6)

49 Is that a lot? (I do not know drugs.)

According to a quick search, its about 3 doses worth for someone like Hunter.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:32 PM (0hOvj)

50 re 15: i'm no althouse, but i don't think the constitution disallows states from saying 'no bail for anything, umkay'

when the country falls apart, we can hope illinois becomes part of greater canada.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 18, 2023 06:32 PM (B1FKF)

51 "This story gives me the warm and fuzzies knowing the Illinois State Supreme Court just adjudicated the SAFe-T Act as constitutional. It basically takes away holding suspects on bail."

This may be good from the "State Sovereignty" viewpoint, but not from the "are you insane?" viewpoint. Of course judges could still hold violent suspects, I suspect?

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 06:32 PM (Cus5s)

52 Illinois' plan to eliminate cash bail statewide just cleared a major hurdle
The Illinois Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld the constitutionality of a state law ending cash bail, ordering implementation in mid-September.

https://tinyurl.com/ykftych5

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 06:33 PM (TO3l8)

53 The Kakistocracy marches apace.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2023 06:33 PM (jzzG8)

54 > I have no problem with the pot possession convictions being overturned, its legal in Oregon now. I would maintain it for a heavy dealer, like a dude with several bales in his camper, but not some guy with a baggie full.

It's a myth that people are in prison for personal use possession and nothing else. In the very few instances where people's records say they're in prison for simple possession, the fact is, they were allowed to plea down from more serious charges.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2023 06:33 PM (V1QHJ)

55 It is nice. But then I'm a librarian. I just have to shush people.
Posted by: Just Lily at July 18, 2023 06:29 PM (RLLZj)
........

I hope you use your shushing powers equitably.

Posted by: wth at July 18, 2023 06:33 PM (v0R5T)

56 i'm no althouse, but i don't think the constitution disallows states from saying 'no bail for anything, umkay'

It depends on what the individual state constitutions say. The US Constitution does not say anything about what state laws require.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:33 PM (0hOvj)

57 There is something fundamentally unjust about holding someone in prison for doing something that is now deemed legal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

There is a lot of unjust laws on the books. Use a stolen/found credit card and buy $10 worth of food to feed yourself and it is a felony. Walk out of CVS Pharmacy with $850 of stolen merchandise and you aren't even prosecuted.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2023 06:33 PM (R/ItY)

58 Yeah, local elections don't count for much...

Posted by: Archer at July 18, 2023 06:33 PM (gmo/4)

59

Portland's problem is that it has too many victims...

Posted by: Democratic Spokesthing at July 18, 2023 06:34 PM (ZG1oB)

60 Better hope no family member of mine is harmed.
Just sayin'.
I can...write a powerfully strong worded letter. Yeah. That's it. A letter. You don want to see a letter from me.
Same applies to your fornicating child molesting perverts.
Up yours Oregon.
Posted by: Diogenes

Do your neighbors in the next state over a solid and send their prog DA the letter. And just for fun you put some Antifa slugs name on it as a return address.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 18, 2023 06:34 PM (ga8qR)

61 Looked it up

Two senior law enforcement officials told CBS News that there was 207.6 milligrams, or .007 ounces, of cocaine discovered, according to an FBI analysis.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2023 06:24 PM (cMXNt)

Is that a lot? (I do not know drugs.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2023 06:25 PM

That's nothing, somebody snorted a couple of lines out of the bag and then tossed it away.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2023 06:34 PM (ncXxy)

62 There is a lot of unjust laws on the books. Use a stolen/found credit card and buy $10 worth of food to feed yourself and it is a felony. Walk out of CVS Pharmacy with $850 of stolen merchandise and you aren't even prosecuted.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2023 06:33 PM (R/ItY)
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The California Way.

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 06:34 PM (krQz2)

63 The Orleans Parish DA was elected while under a federal indictment. He was eventually found not guilty. Voters must have been physic.

Posted by: Javems at July 18, 2023 06:34 PM (AmoqO)

64 the fact is, they were allowed to plea down from more serious charges.

That is true, but in the end, if the charge that is holding them in jail is now something that's legal, its just not right to hold them any more. They're idiots, they will get busted again, for something else.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:34 PM (0hOvj)

65 She looks the part.

Like a broke ass sexual chocolate meets Homie Da Klown.

Probably can’t write a legible sentence and is a functional illiterate.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 18, 2023 06:35 PM (R/m4+)

66 It is nice. But then I'm a librarian. I just have to shush people.
Posted by: Just Lily

I hope you use your shushing powers equitably.
Posted by: wth

I'll bet that shot cuts like a knife.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2023 06:35 PM (R/ItY)

67
Some people are ... are not able to actually appreciate the work that we do.

Some people appreciate the work of someone who needs doxxing.

/ not me, across the country. Probably just some cereal killer who ate Kaboom as a kid.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 18, 2023 06:35 PM (enJYY)

68 Has anyone ever seen any indication that so called "restorative justice" is in any way effective? My increasingly leftist county has a nice building that was renovated just for the purpose of the administration of restorative justice. I'm sure it provides many a bureaucratic job, but the crime rat inches ever upward. I think restorative justice may be more coddling bullshit

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2023 06:35 PM (kJa+y)

69 If I was related to any of those 6, that former governor might be a former person.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 18, 2023 06:35 PM (roH4R)

70 Huge yawn.... whatever happens in Portland, Portland deserves. Apologies to Nurse R and other, non fucked residents. But, it is what it is.

Soon or later y'all will have to make a choice. Move or not. I applaud either decision.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2023 06:35 PM (Q4IgG)

71 Are there no prisons? No workhouses? No Chuck, there aren't. From Dickens to Plisken, toot sweet.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 18, 2023 06:35 PM (oWBc3)

72 {34} ... It is nice. But then I'm a librarian. I just have to shush people.

Posted by: Just Lily at July 18, 2023 06:29 PM (RLLZj)

Zis is KAOS... Ve don't SHUSH here!

Posted by: Siegfried at July 18, 2023 06:36 PM (nRMeC)

73 38 I have no problem with the pot possession convictions being overturned, its legal in Oregon now. I would maintain it for a heavy dealer, like a dude with several bales in his camper, but not some guy with a baggie full.

There is something fundamentally unjust about holding someone in prison for doing something that is now deemed legal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:30 PM (0hOvj)

There's that logic to it, but for the most part only dealers are really put in jail on drug charges. Usually a plea deal down from dealing to possession. Unless it's an incidental charge for someone who was really nabbed for something else.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 18, 2023 06:36 PM (eYoxG)

74 If you want to know what's going on in Alameda/ Oakland I usually post a daily update of the mayhem on the Pixy thread.

Latest: yesterday a 78 year old man selling ice cream on the street robbed at gunpoint by three of the DA's foot-soldier. How much could he have? 50 bucks?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2023 06:36 PM (JvZF+)

75 It is nice. But then I'm a librarian. I just have to shush people.
Posted by: Just Lily

I hope you use your shushing powers equitably.
Posted by: wth

I'll bet that shot cuts like a knife.
Posted by: rickb223

*shush

Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2023 06:36 PM (R/ItY)

76 > Isn't there something in The Revelation how in the end times the criminals with be let loose to roam free and attack the righteous?

Not that I recall.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2023 06:36 PM (V1QHJ)

77 Serial killers never seem to go after the right women.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 18, 2023 06:36 PM (xcxpd)

78 The video thumbnail of Price confirms a theory I had.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 18, 2023 06:36 PM (roH4R)

79 Has anyone ever seen any indication that so called "restorative justice" is in any way effective?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2023 06:35 PM (kJa+y)
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Ain't ever seen Joe Stalin's omelet either.

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 06:37 PM (krQz2)

80 Here is the rub. Those women likely voted for Brown, and if they could be revived, they would do it again.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 18, 2023 06:26 PM (pohLc)

That's the hell of it.

------Satan

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2023 06:37 PM (BdMk6)

81 A fundamental function of government is to protect the people. When they stop doing that, they are no longer legitimate.

Democrats won't protect you, nor do they want you to protect yourself, your property and your family. There are few things more insidious and tyrannical.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 18, 2023 06:37 PM (vBMpQ)

82 "HEY! HEY! THIS IS LIBRARY!!!"
--Not Just Lily

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:37 PM (0hOvj)

83 It is nice. But then I'm a librarian. I just have to shush people.
Posted by: Just Lily
........

I hope you use your shushing powers equitably.
Posted by: wth

We need common sense shushing control!!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 18, 2023 06:38 PM (MJIed)

84 From Dickens to Plisken, toot sweet.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 18, 2023 06:35 PM (oWBc3)

That is good.

Posted by: Archer at July 18, 2023 06:39 PM (gmo/4)

85 So these murders are by government's proxy

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2023 06:39 PM (xhxe8)

86
It is nice. But then I'm a librarian. I just have to shush people.
Posted by: Just Lily

I remember when the librarian was a much older woman. Kindly, discreet, unattractive. We didn't know anything about her private life. We didn't want to know anything about her private life.

Posted by: Joe Bookman at July 18, 2023 06:40 PM (enJYY)

87 Fundamentally unjust for holding people,for a crime that has been decriminalized. Really? Have you thought through what that could mean? Logically nothing will be illegal soon or in time, so,let's get it on. Temporal morality is idiocy.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 18, 2023 06:40 PM (oWBc3)

88 Elections have consequences.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2023 06:41 PM (NpAcC)

89
from ace's takedown of Oakland's Soros DA, I get the feeling he rejects her SlayQueensplaining.

Posted by: kallisto at July 18, 2023 06:41 PM (U1mEu)

90 Oregon and Alameda County voted for these haridans.
Posted by: mr tmz at July 18, 2023 06:31 PM (rJ48h)

Multnomah, Marion and Lane counties voted for these harridans.
Her hand picked SoS rejected the recall petition.

Mail in voting destroys states.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 06:41 PM (xhaym)

91 The Orleans Parish DA was elected while under a federal indictment. He was eventually found not guilty. Voters must have been physic.
Posted by: Javems at July 18, 2023 06:34 PM (AmoqO)

I'll be voting for a man for president under the same circumstances.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2023 06:41 PM (BdMk6)

92 In a totally not coordinated event the Michigan AG charged 16 Trump supporters with trying to provide alternative electors for the 2020 election. These are felony charges and the average age of the people appears to be about 70.

https://tinyurl.com/bp8se3uc

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2023 06:41 PM (ZLI7S)

93 Logically nothing will be illegal soon or in time, so,let's get it on. Temporal morality is idiocy.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 18, 2023 06:40 PM (oWBc3)
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I'm right here.

Posted by: Misgendering at July 18, 2023 06:41 PM (krQz2)

94 Temporal morality is idiocy.

It is, but legal actions are based on the law, not on morality. We don't throw people in jail for being wicked, but for breaking the law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:42 PM (0hOvj)

95 Posted by: Joe Bookman at July 18, 2023 06:40 PM (enJYY)
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Great Seinfeld reference!

Posted by: 496 at July 18, 2023 06:42 PM (OcFB+)

96 It is nice. But then I'm a librarian. I just have to shush people.

Posted by: Just Lily at July 18, 2023 06:29 PM (RLLZj)
........

The long arm of the law!

Posted by: wth at July 18, 2023 06:42 PM (v0R5T)

97 Fucking whippersnappers and geezers. Get with the times!

youtube.com/watch?v=ZCOSPtyZAPA

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 18, 2023 06:42 PM (fY84s)

98 ~~Elections~~ mail in voting ~~have~~ has consequences.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 06:42 PM (xhaym)

99 Obama yapping about book censorship two months before banned book month at our public libraries is his reminder to Woke librarians to do their Duty.

Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2023 06:43 PM (cZnIJ)

100 note to librarian lily: shushing people might violate their first amendment rights.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 18, 2023 06:43 PM (B1FKF)

101 And remember: Oregon was the first state to go all-mail voting. There are literally no polling places, you cannot go vote in person.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:43 PM (0hOvj)

102 A lot of more serious charges have been reduced down to possession as part of a plea deal, as I understand it. Blanket releases probably will not catch those cases.

Posted by: Javems at July 18, 2023 06:44 PM (AmoqO)

103 Alameda County DA doubles down on claim comparing recall efforts to Jan. 6 insurrection
youtube.com/watch?v=cG_gaTKNjqQ

KTVU FOX 2 San Francisco
3,737 views Jul 16, 2023
Alameda County District Attorney Pamela Price doubled down on a controversial statement released by her office earlier this week, comparing the backers of a new campaign to recall her from office, with those behind the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. Price made the comments during part of a sit-down interview with KTVU reflecting on her first six months in office.

Posted by: BeautifulHillaryClinton at July 18, 2023 06:44 PM (MFZ8i)

104 It is, but legal actions are based on the law, not on morality. We don't throw people in jail for being wicked, but for breaking the law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:42 PM (0hOvj)
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Right, for a codified extreme limit of tolerable immorality.

Posted by: Misgendering at July 18, 2023 06:44 PM (krQz2)

105
Logically nothing will be illegal soon or in time, so,let's get it on.

FESTIVAL!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2023 06:44 PM (63Dwl)

106 The long arm of the law!
Posted by: wth at July 18, 2023 06:42 PM (v0R5T)

How dare you!

Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 18, 2023 06:44 PM (PiwSw)

107 we at the District Attorney's office are very very committed to making sure that we're providing the best services. Some people are ... are not able to actually appreciate the work that we do.

Is it wrong for me to hope she has the opportunity to show her commitment to appreciating the work her office does?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 18, 2023 06:45 PM (fO935)

108 There is no positive, society-enriching reason to do what Brown did. None.

SO that leaves us with wondering why she really did it.
My suspicion is the Obama "create a crisis that you can then 'not let go to waste'" (see: Fast and Furious.
Let the criminals harass the normies so that they cry out for more government, more Democrat policies and power over them/us.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2023 06:45 PM (avru5)

109 Roseanne Barr had a pretty fun rant on Twitter in response to a Shannon Watts race-baiting Tweet.

https://tinyurl.com/ywa9wbvr

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2023 06:45 PM (V1QHJ)

110 At least he didn't walk on the grass where the feds had removed the "stay off the grass" sign the night before.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 06:45 PM (YUvzq)

111 I was always fond of the bespectacled librarian, black hair pulled in a tight bun, white blouse with one too many buttons undone.
I don't know why.

Posted by: wth at July 18, 2023 06:45 PM (v0R5T)

112 What's a few murders when there's sassy hapnin?

Flee blue anything.

Posted by: eleven at July 18, 2023 06:48 PM (iziT8)

113 One of the victims was apparently found in a county park off HWY 22 between Dallas and Lincoln City on the coast. That is a really long way to cart a body, and is one of those places you only know about if you know the area.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 06:48 PM (xhaym)

114 Blacks are disproportionately represented in prison because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime, especially violent crime. So fuck right off with that disparity shit. What should we do, Shanghai white people off the street to force them to do black prisoners' time for them?

Posted by: Actually, better not give them any ideas at July 18, 2023 06:49 PM (uoAlb)

115 One thing you can say about serial killers - they are neat and tidy and rarely mix it up with the other prisoners.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at July 18, 2023 06:49 PM (nJ1bF)

116 They love being in charge of your suffering. It makes them feel like a God. And I'm not talking about serial killers.

This stuff about not being appreciative enough is all just rubbing their balls in your face.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2023 06:50 PM (lX8VI)

117
My suspicion is the Obama "create a crisis that you can then 'not let go to waste'" (see: Fast and Furious.
Let the criminals harass the normies so that they cry out for more government, more Democrat policies and power over them/us.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2023 06:45 PM (avru5)

I wish you were wrong about this.

Posted by: Moki at July 18, 2023 06:50 PM (JrN/x)

118 " note to librarian lily: shushing people might violate their first amendment rights."

One does not have the first amendment right to (repeatedly) scream "FIRE" in a (non-burning) Library.

Reminds me of that Korean guy that confronts a protester in a library ... "Be Quiet, this is a Library". ah, the good old days.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 06:50 PM (Cus5s)

119 Blacks are disproportionately represented in prison because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime, especially violent crime.

I think more precisely, blacks commit more of the kinds of crime that get you jail time than whites do. White people break the crap out of the law, but its stuff like speeding and fraud and so on, stuff that you get fines and community service for, not jail time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:50 PM (0hOvj)

120 take note: dudes who paint wizards and unicorns on Chevy vans are not to be trusted.

They work for weed.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 18, 2023 06:50 PM (aD39U)

121 One of the victims was apparently found in a county park off HWY 22 between Dallas and Lincoln City on the coast. That is a really long way to cart a body, and is one of those places you only know about if you know the area.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 06:48 PM (xhaym)

*looks suspiciously at Kindltot*

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2023 06:51 PM (BdMk6)

122 >>Have you thought through what that could mean? Logically nothing will be illegal soon or in time, so,let's get it on

Don't be silly!
Part of normalizing/legalizing deviance is **outlawing the normal**. Things that they will attempt to make illegal soon:
-- 2nd Amendment
-- 1st Amendment (think: "Misgendering is a hate crime!)
-- Practicing traditional Christianity
-- Raising your kids as you see fit (e.g. pulling them from public schools, doctors that want to trans them)

Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2023 06:51 PM (avru5)

123 115
'other prisoners'

Other prisoners are not helpless women and children. They'd f___ the serial killers up.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 18, 2023 06:51 PM (roH4R)

124 @94, and I thought I was the biggest pendant here. Wickedness, lawlessness, pick your poison and enjoy the world you create.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 18, 2023 06:51 PM (oWBc3)

125 Crazy thing is - criminals she is releasing prey on black and brown people, predominantly.

So...restorative justice for who exactly?

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at July 18, 2023 06:52 PM (nJ1bF)

126 Right, for a codified extreme limit of tolerable immorality.
Posted by: Misgendering at July 18, 2023 06:44 PM (krQz2)

You are a credulous fool if you think legislation has anything to do with morality. At best, morality is used to drum up support and beat opposition down, but in the end it is restraint on behavior enforced by the government to benefit specific groups.

But you knew that.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 06:52 PM (xhaym)

127 Black skin color has no real influence on much of anything.

Black culture is harmful to the point that it's a destructive cancer on society.

It's a shame it's so difficult to separate the two.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 06:52 PM (YUvzq)

128 Calhoun-that's the guy that did the Free Candy lettering on my panel van. He's quite talented.

Posted by: Uncle Ned at July 18, 2023 06:52 PM (T0tUU)

129 115 One thing you can say about serial killers - they are neat and tidy and rarely mix it up with the other prisoners.
Posted by: Comrade Roboto at July 18, 2023 06:49 PM (nJ1bF)

Nobody was going to fuck with 6'8" Ed Kemper anyway.

Posted by: His interviews are fascinating stuff at July 18, 2023 06:52 PM (uoAlb)

130 Paper cut that'll take your head off.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2023 06:28 PM (R/

Letter delivered at 2800fps.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2023 06:52 PM (e4fEA)

131 One of the victims was apparently found in a county park off HWY 22 between Dallas and Lincoln City on the coast.

Pretty sure I've been to that park. The Green River Killer transported bodies for dozens of miles, scattered all over, but always somewhere that its likely to be discovered.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:52 PM (0hOvj)

132 One does not have the first amendment right to (repeatedly) scream "FIRE" in a (non-burning) Library.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 06:50 PM (Cus5s)
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I read that that's not ever been actually tested in law.

It's just a statement about balancing rights.

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 06:53 PM (krQz2)

133 It's a shame it's so difficult to separate the two.
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Yes, it is.

But not surprising.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 06:53 PM (TO3l8)

134 Anyone bother to ask Former Governor Brown what she thinks of letting a serial killer go?

I wonder if she even cares or admits that she made a mistake?

I mean, she's a Democrat so she's probably trying to find this guy right now... not to arrest or criticize him, but to offer some sort of pleasure as she gets off on murdering innocents like the left does.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at July 18, 2023 06:53 PM (AxRGS)

135 One does not have the first amendment right to (repeatedly) scream "FIRE" in a (non-burning) Library.

--

I'm going to need you to cite the statue that's engraved on, please.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 06:53 PM (YUvzq)

136 What do Republicans *do* except not be Democrats?

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2023 06:53 PM (lX8VI)

137 Marian the Librarian

https://tinyurl.com/4xn85hpd

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos (meh, it's a living) at July 18, 2023 06:54 PM (3DZIZ)

138 All these fucking idiot left wing women political hacks say the same thing; "they don't know about the work I do. It's about doing the work. Blah blah". Shut the fuck up with this "doing the work" horseshit. I feel like Denzel in "Man on Fire" when he stuck that C4 up the guy's ass; "Everybody keeps saying that, I'm getting really tired of hearing it."

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 18, 2023 06:54 PM (tRd71)

139 One does not have the first amendment right to (repeatedly) scream "FIRE" in a (non-burning) Library.
Reminds me of that Korean guy that confronts a protester in a library ... "Be Quiet, this is a Library". ah, the good old days.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 06:50 PM (Cus5s)

What if there is a fire? Will you be prosecuted in that situation?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 06:54 PM (xhaym)

140 What do Republicans *do* except not be Democrats?
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2023 06:53 PM (lX8VI)
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Send out flyers and annoying emails.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 06:54 PM (TO3l8)

141 Andy Ngo profiles the violent Portland freak brigade on Twitter. One photo shows a degenerate pedo male sitting down, he’s wearing a dog boy helm and a strange cod-piece and he’s also a convicted pedo.

Portland is a Clockwork Orange.

Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2023 06:55 PM (cZnIJ)

142 Wickedness, lawlessness, pick your poison and enjoy the world you create.

When discussing legal actions, its best to be sure you're discussing legal terms and concepts, not moral ones or other topics.

It is fundamentally unjust to hold someone in prison for an action that some other person can do freely and legally.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:55 PM (0hOvj)

143 Blacks are disproportionately represented in prison because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime, especially violent crime. So fuck right off with that disparity shit. What should we do, Shanghai white people off the street to force them to do black prisoners' time for them?
Posted by: Actually, better not give them any ideas at July 18, 2023 06:49 PM (uoAlb)
*****
I'm sure they're already working on a DEI for prisons.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2023 06:55 PM (NpAcC)

144 and I thought I was the biggest pendant here. Wickedness, lawlessness, pick your poison and enjoy the world you create.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 18, 2023 06:51 PM (oWBc3)

Pedant

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2023 06:55 PM (lX8VI)

145 Has anyone ever seen any indication that so called "restorative justice" is in any way effective?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2023 06:35 PM (kJa+y)

The key is to restore these thugs to society so they can trash justice yet again...and to keep doing so until they get it right.
See?
justice Restored!
If you got hurt...tough shit.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2023 06:55 PM (e4fEA)

146 "I read that that's not ever been actually tested in law.
It's just a statement about balancing rights."

sounds true. But some rights rank higher than others, based on the situation. So keeping guns from felons is another case of rights being "lost".

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 06:56 PM (Cus5s)

147 3 I got $50 that says the killer will turn out to be a trans freak.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2023 06:16 PM (ncXxy)

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$50 says he isn't trans now, but declares himself "trans" shortly after he's caught so they'll put him in a women's prison.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at July 18, 2023 06:56 PM (uEcUz)

148 3,100 inmates to be released as Trump administration implements criminal justice reform
https://tinyurl.com/mr482e9c

Justice Department officials on Friday announced that 3,100 inmates are being released from federal prisons across the country because of a change in how their good-behavior time is calculated — a significant step, they said, in the implementation of a new criminal justice reform law.
The announcement came at a news conference to discuss the Trump administration’s progress on putting into place the First Step Act, a criminal justice bill President Trump signed into law in December. Officials also announced they were redirecting $75 million in funding for fiscal 2019 to help with implementation of the act and instituting a new system that will assess inmates’ risk of reoffending and provide tailored programming that could help them get out earlier

Roger Stone
@RogerJStoneJr
The First Step Act , the first significant reform in criminal Justice law since the racist 1994 Crime Bill pushed by @JoeBiden which mandated the harsh mandatory penalties for the first time, non- violent crime of simple possession is one of @realDonaldTrump's greatest achievements
May 31, 2023

Posted by: BeautifulHillaryClinton at July 18, 2023 06:56 PM (MFZ8i)

149 US soldier detained after crossing North Korean border without permission

"The detainee has been identified as Travis King, a US Army member with the rank of private second class, reported South Korea’s Dong-a Ilbo newspaper, citing South Korea’s army.

King was taking part in a visit to the Joint Security Area — the border village in the demilitarized zone separating the two Koreas that is guarded by soldiers from both sides — when he made the “deliberate decision” to cross the border around 3:27 p.m. local time, officials said."

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=144616

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 06:56 PM (TO3l8)

150 Is there trouble in River City?

Posted by: eleven at July 18, 2023 06:57 PM (iziT8)

151 All Liberals are just unrealized fertilizer.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 18, 2023 06:57 PM (mZ3xv)

152 Sickening. Affirmative Action, Equity in Everything, and Trillions of Dollars of Reparations will not satisfy the black race warriors. Only enslavement of whites will begin to satisfy them. Followed soon after by exterminating all whites in the Former USA.

The last three steps above will never happen, but the race warriors are going to push and push until forced to desist.

Posted by: Gref at July 18, 2023 06:57 PM (AMIL/)

153 Demons. We are surrounded by demons.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at July 18, 2023 06:57 PM (T/Lqj)

154 What do Republicans *do* except not be Democrats?
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2023 06:53 PM (lX8VI)
********
The Louisiana State Senate just voted 28-11 to override the veto of Gov. John Bel Edwards on the bill to ban child sex change procedures.

The House did it earlier today so it's now the law.

All the southern states have officially banned child gender mutilations.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2023 06:57 PM (NpAcC)

155 "What if there is a fire? Will you be prosecuted in that situation?" Posted by: Kindltot

Are you a conservative in Portland court? then yes, and held without bail.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 06:57 PM (Cus5s)

156 One does not have the first amendment right to (repeatedly) scream "FIRE" in a (non-burning) Library.

I agree with what you are trying to say but allow me to be pedantic and annoying.

You have the RIGHT to do so (its inalienable), but you may not have the free expression of that right, as agreed to by society.

We freely agree as a culture to restrict free expression of our rights in order to create a stable, productive society. That particular example was overturned in the supreme court a while back (you can, in fact yell fire in a crowded theater, but you maybe held liable for the panic and any damage or harm it might cause to do so)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:58 PM (0hOvj)

157 I don't want these released criminals near schools! I don't want them near children! That's an infamia. In the cities, we would keep the released criminals in the dark people, the coloreds. They're animals anyway, so let them lose their souls.

Posted by: Don Zaluchi Soros at July 18, 2023 06:58 PM (R/m4+)

158 Pretty sure I've been to that park. The Green River Killer transported bodies for dozens of miles, scattered all over, but always somewhere that its likely to be discovered.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:52 PM (0hOvj)

I think it is Mill Creek park, the report said "Mill Creek in Polk county" and a couple roads cross it, but where 22 goes across there is a lot of traffic to and from the two casinos. Puling off to a park gives some privacy I suppose. I would be interested in seeing if the casinos have tapes showing the victim and a man together. I would ask Spirit Mountain first.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 06:58 PM (xhaym)

159 $50 says he isn't trans now, but declares himself "trans" shortly after he's caught so they'll put him in a women's prison.
Posted by: Cave Johnson at July 18, 2023 06:56 PM (uEcUz)

Uh, I'm definitely doing this if I ever get ca...

I mean, if ever committed a crime...

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 18, 2023 06:58 PM (mZ3xv)

160 Posted by: BeautifulHillaryClinton

Nice, conflating non-violent offenders with violent ones in a half assed attempt to make Trump look bad. Keep on trollin'!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 18, 2023 06:59 PM (Bd6X8)

161 It's a shame it's so difficult to separate the two.
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Yes, it is.

But not surprising.

Posted by: SMH

--

We were discussing something similar in JJ's thread this morning.

The prestigious $25K+ HBCU that the Vice President so proudly attending has dancers performing literal stripper shows during football games (borderline NSFW):

"2022 Howard University Showtime Marching Band - Neck / Skin I'm In"

https://youtu.be/m2uhkKfpthg?t=312

I don't know how we move away from this and back to self respect.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 06:59 PM (YUvzq)

162 Has anyone ever seen any indication that so called "restorative justice" is in any way effective?

It depends on what you mean by effective. Its causing chaos and destabilizing our culture and legal system, which is useful for those who want to tear it all down and start over with them in absolute power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 06:59 PM (0hOvj)

163 The fire in a crowded theater thing was a shitty piece of dicta in a shitty Wilson-era case that got overturned decades later when SCOTUS finally started getting its shit together about free speech.

Posted by: It's stupid and should be forever dropped from the public consciousness at July 18, 2023 07:00 PM (uoAlb)

164 153 Demons. We are surrounded by demons.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at July 18, 2023 06:57 PM (T/Lqj

I'm surrounded by Jesus. Now He's surrounded by demons...but He really doesn't seem concerned at all.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 18, 2023 07:00 PM (mZ3xv)

165 I don't know how we move away from this and back to self respect.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 06:59 PM (YUvzq)
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With the Lord, all things are possible.

Without God, however...

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 07:01 PM (TO3l8)

166 One does not have the first amendment right to (repeatedly) scream "FIRE" in a (non-burning) Library.
Reminds me of that Korean guy that confronts a protester in a library ... "Be Quiet, this is a Library". ah, the good old days.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 06:50 PM (Cus5s)

What if there is a fire? Will you be prosecuted in that situation?
Posted by: Kindltot

If there is a fire, no. If there is not a fire, there's a couple ways they can treat it. Disturbing the peace. Causing a riot. He and if anyone gets hurt in the ensuing stampede, there may be a couple criminal charges they can use.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2023 07:01 PM (R/ItY)

167 US soldier detained after crossing North Korean border without permission

"The detainee has been identified as Travis King, a US Army member with the rank of private second class, reported South Korea’s Dong-a Ilbo newspaper, citing South Korea’s army.

King was taking part in a visit to the Joint Security Area — the border village in the demilitarized zone separating the two Koreas that is guarded by soldiers from both sides — when he made the “deliberate decision” to cross the border around 3:27 p.m. local time, officials said."

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=144616

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 06:56 PM (TO3l

Words for that soldier: FAFO.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2023 07:01 PM (BdMk6)

168 >>Portland is a Clockwork Orange.

And The Purge, apparently

Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2023 07:01 PM (avru5)

169 I'm surrounded by Jesus. Now He's surrounded by demons...but He really doesn't seem concerned at all.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Amen.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 18, 2023 07:01 PM (R/ItY)

170 What do Republicans *do* except not be Democrats?
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2023 06:53 PM (lX8VI)
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They even fail at that, too.

Actually, if GOPpers actually failed to be Democrats more consistently, I might venture to adopt the "Republican" label again.

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:02 PM (krQz2)

171 As to the PV2 who crossed into NK, I don't know what to think. Was he higher ranked and then got busted to E-2 and this was a real defection to avoid US Military legal issues (apparently he was a problem child in the Unit)? Or was he just a true newby who didn't know the gravity of what he's doing. Either way, let's hope we get him back soon.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 18, 2023 07:02 PM (2cS/G)

172 What do Republicans *do* except not be Democrats?
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2023 06:53 PM (lX8VI)
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Send out flyers and annoying emails.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 06:54 PM

And vote with Democrats on anything important.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 18, 2023 07:02 PM (Wnv9h)

173 sounds true. But some rights rank higher than others, based on the situation. So keeping guns from felons is another case of rights being "lost".
Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 06:56 PM (Cus5s)

I may have to borrow the puppets.

ALL RIGHTS ARE EQUALLY ABSOLUTE OR THEY ARE NOT RIGHTS THAT IS WHAT INALIENABLE MEANS

If they can be cut out or meted out according to "good boy status" accounting then they are benefits or bribes and can be taken away without reason or pretext

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 07:03 PM (xhaym)

174 "The detainee has been identified as Travis King, a US Army member with the rank of private second class, reported South Korea’s Dong-a Ilbo newspaper, citing South Korea’s army.

Oh, I thought it might have been a 2nd lieutenant that got lost.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 18, 2023 07:03 PM (tRd71)

175 I don't want these released criminals near schools! I don't want them near children! That's an infamia. In the cities, we would keep the released criminals in the dark people, the coloreds. They're animals anyway, so let them lose their souls.
Posted by: Don Zaluchi Soros at July 18, 2023 06:58 PM (R/m4+)
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California is getting rid of its sexual offenders registry.

Just in time for some pedos to move next to schools.

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:04 PM (krQz2)

176 It is fundamentally unjust to hold someone in prison for an action that some other person can do freely and legally.

So regular folks can bring cocaine into the WH.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 18, 2023 07:04 PM (p8A+W)

177 "Blacks are disproportionately represented in prison because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime, especially violent crime."

and it is cultural, and the globalists (LBJ style) keep making it worse. They propped up Trayvon, Gentle Giant of Ferguson, and Saint George as heroes/martyrs ... why do the "elite" insist on making the violent druggies into the martyrs for the "black neighborhood"?

Yet blacks that succeed on merit and perhaps turn Republican are scorned and called "Uncle Toms" (and iirc, they have that Tom character wrong anyway).

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 07:04 PM (Cus5s)

178 Words for that soldier: FAFO.

Yeah but, boys will be boys.

I watched a reaction video with vets analyzing military movies and special forces training stuff. One of them pointed out that their drill sergeant was like, 25? But to them at 18-19 he seemed like an older adult, a real authority. These guys are all pretty young and will do dumb stuff on a whim "I'm gonna step into North Korea, I can brag about it later!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:04 PM (0hOvj)

179 "The detainee has been identified as Travis King, a US Army member with the rank of private second class, reported South Korea’s Dong-a Ilbo newspaper, citing South Korea’s army.

Private "Second" Class???

Something lost in translation?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2023 07:04 PM (e4fEA)

180 149 US soldier detained after crossing North Korean border without permission

Posted by: SMH at what's coming

I expect he'll be regretting that decision shortly.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2023 07:04 PM (OX9vb)

181 160 Posted by: BeautifulHillaryClinton
Nice, conflating non-violent offenders with violent ones in a half assed attempt to make Trump look bad. Keep on trollin'!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 18, 2023 06:59 PM (Bd6X

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You don't go to the Federal Pen for being a "non-violent offender drug" (at least you didn't use to)
These are drug dealers who plead down and had their sentences cut short because Trump got his ass kissed by Kim Kardashian.
Republicans and Trump were convinced that the key to winning the Black vote is releasing drug dealers back in their community.
How's that working out for them, huh?

Posted by: BeautifulHillaryClinton at July 18, 2023 07:05 PM (MFZ8i)

182
"King was taking part in a visit to the Joint Security Area — the border village in the demilitarized zone separating the two Koreas that is guarded by soldiers from both sides — when he made the “deliberate decision” to cross the border"

Was he just doing it to say "I've been to NKorea," or was something else going on? What an incredibly stupid thing, except that this is the woke army, and this is what they have been recruiting for the last few years.

SMH, I'm glad you are out. Just like I'm glad I'm out of State.

Posted by: Moki at July 18, 2023 07:05 PM (JrN/x)

183 Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2023 06:57 PM (NpAcC)

Well damn that's something, innit

The state level ones and local ones are generally better to be fair

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2023 07:05 PM (lX8VI)

184 California is getting rid of its sexual offenders registry.

Just in time for some pedos to move next to schools.

More likely California is trying to overcome a teacher staffing shortage.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 18, 2023 07:05 PM (p8A+W)

185 .007?
Yeah, I doubt that.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at July 18, 2023 07:05 PM (VMFAF)

186 Republicans run for office and collect donations, which they then spend on nice haircuts and dinners out.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 18, 2023 07:05 PM (mZ3xv)

187 Heya Moki. : )

I thank God every night that I'm no longer in.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 07:06 PM (TO3l8)

188 Any American soldier that goes to the JSA knows full well where he's supposed to go and where's he not. North Fucking Korea is definitely a "not". So either he did go on purpose for whatever misguided reason, or he's a turnip even by Army standards.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 18, 2023 07:06 PM (tRd71)

189 So either he did go on purpose for whatever misguided reason, or he's a turnip even by Army standards.
___

Sounds like he tried to defect.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 07:07 PM (TO3l8)

190 and iirc, they have that Tom character wrong anyway.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 07:04 PM (Cus5s)
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Yeah, I believe the character they mean is actually "Sambo".

Uncle Tom is the hero. Some linguists I respect think it arose as a shortening of "that guy from Uncle Tom's Cabin", to the point that only the book's name had to be clear to indicate meaning.

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:07 PM (krQz2)

191 But some rights rank higher than others, based on the situation.

There is a hierarchy of human rights, in which some are more urgent than others.

Life is tops, because if you are not alive, you have no rights at all.
Liberty is next, because if you have no liberty then you cannot exercise any rights.
Property is next, because if you can own nothing or call anything your own, how can you carry out your liberty?

It goes on like that. But the hierarchy isn't one of one being better than the other, rather that each of them are subject to the other rights being in place. The right to free expression is no less a right than the right to liberty, for example. Its just lower in the hierarchy because how can you express yourself if you have no liberty?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:07 PM (0hOvj)

192 >>> Private "Second" Class???

I haven't got my wings yet!
- Clarence

Posted by: DJ at July 18, 2023 07:07 PM (uosPt)

193 If they can be cut out or meted out according to "good boy status" accounting then they are benefits or bribes and can be taken away without reason or pretext

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 07:03 PM (xhaym)
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The very definition of the word "privilege."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2023 07:08 PM (BpYfr)

194 Oh, I thought it might have been a 2nd lieutenant that got lost.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 18, 2023 07:03 PM (tRd71)

LOL

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2023 07:08 PM (BdMk6)

195 163 The fire in a crowded theater thing was a shitty piece of dicta in a shitty Wilson-era case that got overturned decades later when SCOTUS finally started getting its shit together about free speech.
Posted by: It's stupid and should be forever dropped from the public consciousness at July 18, 2023 07:00 PM

Amen

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 18, 2023 07:08 PM (l3Uxg)

196 I once poked my toe over the Czech border just prior to the Velvet Revolution, and it felt transgressive, even though we were swapping beers and gear with the Czech National Guard minding the border.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 18, 2023 07:08 PM (2cS/G)

197 135 One does not have the first amendment right to (repeatedly) scream "FIRE" in a (non-burning) Library.

I'm going to need you to cite the statue that's engraved on, please.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 06:53 PM (YUvzq)

That, and the statement 'the Constitution is not a suicide pact'... have been used to IGNORE the clear wording of the Constitution.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2023 07:08 PM (oHd/0)

198 Private "Second" Class???

He's an E2. E3s get the private first class rank, then specialist (E4) for junior enlisted.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 18, 2023 07:08 PM (tRd71)

199 More:

"A US Army soldier who had been punished for misconduct while stationed in South Korea and ordered to go home has been detained in North Korea after straying across the border without permission during a tour, the United Nations Command said Tuesday."

Ah. Note 'punished for misconduct'. He, apparently, was already a bad player. My guess is, he is/was trying to dodge UCMJ treatment.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2023 07:09 PM (oo0rP)

200 With the Lord, all things are possible.

Without God, however...
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 07:01 PM (TO3l

Amen!

Posted by: Moki at July 18, 2023 07:09 PM (JrN/x)

201 PV2 aka skeeter wings.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 07:09 PM (TO3l8)

202
The prestigious $25K+ HBCU that the Vice President so proudly attending has dancers performing literal stripper shows during football games (borderline NSFW):

"2022 Howard University Showtime Marching Band - Neck / Skin I'm In"

https://youtu.be/m2uhkKfpthg?t=312

I don't know how we move away from this and back to self respect.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 06:59 PM (YUvzq)

That's...pretty tame actually. There's no stripper show going on. Dance and cheerleader teams have had a little bump and grind in their routines for decades now.

Posted by: I think you're being a wee bit prudish at July 18, 2023 07:09 PM (uoAlb)

203 188 Any American soldier that goes to the JSA knows full well where he's supposed to go and where's he not. North Fucking Korea is definitely a "not". So either he did go on purpose for whatever misguided reason, or he's a turnip even by Army standards.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 18, 2023 07:06 PM (tRd71)

Date with North Korean chick... who was probably an agent in the first place.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2023 07:10 PM (oHd/0)

204 100 note to librarian lily: shushing people might violate their first amendment rights.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 18, 2023 06:43 PM (B1FKF)

Oh you can still talk, just quietly.

Passing out pamphlets about the government is perfectly fine too.

I'll even let you use the copy machine for that.

Posted by: Just Lily at July 18, 2023 07:10 PM (RLLZj)

205 Oh goody. Another Bowe Berghdahl.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2023 07:10 PM (mC1F3)

206 Any American soldier that goes to the JSA knows full well where he's supposed to go and where's he not. North Fucking Korea is definitely a "not". So either he did go on purpose for whatever misguided reason, or he's a turnip even by Army standards.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 18, 2023 07:06 PM (tRd71)

Turnip is definitely in play.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2023 07:10 PM (BdMk6)

207 "Use a stolen/found credit card and buy $10 worth of food to feed yourself and it is a felony."

Wire fraud

Posted by: SFGoth at July 18, 2023 07:10 PM (KAi1n)

208
Republicans run for office and collect donations, which they then spend on nice haircuts and dinners out.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 18, 2023 07:05 PM (mZ3xv)

Male Elected Official helmet hair and two cans of Aquanet per day doesn't exactly qualify as a "nice haircut" in my book.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2023 07:10 PM (n+4am)

209 I've done the DMZ tour and we were allowed to walk around the table IF the Nork guards were no in the room...which back then was fairly common. If they were, stay on your own side!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (e4fEA)

210 California is getting rid of its sexual offenders registry.
Just in time for some pedos to move next to schools.
More likely California is trying to overcome a teacher staffing shortage.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 18, 2023 07:05 PM (p8A+W)

Most of hollyweirds big shots breathe a sigh of relief.

Roll was probably too big to manage anyways without breaking the budget.

Pervert State.

Posted by: Zombie Charlie Manson, California Icon at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (R/m4+)

211 He's an E2. E3s get the private first class rank, then specialist (E4) for junior enlisted.
Posted by: UGAdawg
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Uh...

Posted by: Corporal at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (XnsY+)

212 "ALL RIGHTS ARE EQUALLY ABSOLUTE OR THEY ARE NOT RIGHTS THAT IS WHAT INALIENABLE MEANS
If they can be cut out or meted out according to "good boy status" accounting then they are benefits or bribes and can be taken away without reason or pretext" Posted by: Kindltot

OK, so murderers in prison should have guns?
as I said, there is pretext and reason to limit the "inalienable rights" of citizens that don't obey laws.

Is there no way to stop people from screaming in a library all day long? Or in a church service? Because they have the "divine and inalienable right" to do so?

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (Cus5s)

213 ""A US Army soldier who had been punished for misconduct while stationed in South Korea and ordered to go home has been detained in North Korea after straying across the border without permission during a tour, the United Nations Command said Tuesday."
"

He may have refused to declare his personal pronouns.

Trouble...

Trouble...

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (89Sog)

214 Dance and cheerleader teams have had a little bump and grind in their routines for decades now.

We'd probably be better off as a society with less of that kid of thing, though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (0hOvj)

215 Why do serial killers always get called by their full name?

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (fKIdX)

216 Not many corporals in the Army; much more common in the Marine Corps.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 18, 2023 07:12 PM (tRd71)

217 Ah. Note 'punished for misconduct'. He, apparently, was already a bad player. My guess is, he is/was trying to dodge UCMJ treatment.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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“Army spokesperson told Insider that the soldier, King, joined the Army in January 2021 and has had no deployments.”

“During his Korean Force Rotation he was originally assigned to 6th Squadron, 1st Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division and is currently administratively attached to 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division,”
the spokesperson said. “His awards include the National Defense Service Medal, the Korean Defense Service Medal and Overseas Service Ribbon.”

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 07:12 PM (TO3l8)

218 196 I once poked my toe over the Czech border just prior to the Velvet Revolution, and it felt transgressive, even though we were swapping beers and gear with the Czech National Guard minding the border.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 18, 2023 07:08 PM (2cS/G)

When in Hong Kong, we took a bus tour to the border, and actually was allowed to step foot on Communist Chinese soil... the Guards just stood there and smiled.

They had no idea some of us were US Navy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2023 07:12 PM (oHd/0)

219 > ALL RIGHTS ARE EQUALLY ABSOLUTE OR THEY ARE NOT RIGHTS THAT IS WHAT INALIENABLE MEANS

No rights are absolute. A person's liberty can be removed if they commit terrible crimes. A person's freedom of speech doesn't extend to fraud. A person's freedom to peacefully assemble doesn't grant them liberty to assemble in your living room without your permission. A person's right to self-defense doesn't grant them liberty to kill just because they're personally affronted or embarrassed.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2023 07:13 PM (V1QHJ)

220 Why do serial killers always get called by their full name?

Let's ask John David Stutts

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:13 PM (0hOvj)

221 With the Lord, all things are possible.

Without God, however...

Posted by: SMH
--

Truer words never spoken.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 07:13 PM (YUvzq)

222 the catcha 22 for the DOJ is they should let the people decide

if he is elected, you save some country some cash and Trump can pardon himself

however if he's is not elected, the reason for hounding him will disappear

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2023 07:13 PM (us2H3)

223 I guess it’s true that things fail slowly, then all at once. I wonder how long it takes to loot the expensive hill homes that ring the SF Bay Area.

I’m looking at you Mill Valley, Los Altos and Hillsborough.

Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2023 07:13 PM (cZnIJ)

224 Well damn that's something, innit

The state level ones and local ones are generally better to be fair
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2023 07:05 PM (lX8VI)
*******
TBH this trans stuff keeps me up at night. I worry along with many of my friends with young kids about the impact it is have on the next generation and how the parents might be criminalized for intervening

Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2023 07:13 PM (NpAcC)

225 215 Why do serial killers always get called by their full name?
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (fKIdX)

So as to avoid confusion with other people of the same name.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 18, 2023 07:14 PM (mZ3xv)

226 I remember the dumb shit who defected years ago, taking a bunch of army manuals with him. heh...dumbass. After an extensive interrogation, the norks put him to work milking venomous snakes. He did that for a long time.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2023 07:14 PM (e4fEA)

227 Is there no way to stop people from screaming in a library all day long? Or in a church service? Because they have the "divine and inalienable right" to do so?
Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (Cus5s)
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If you're shouting in a theater, you're on somebody else's property.

If you're shouting in a library, you're on the public's collective property.

Except for zoning laws, you should be able to go home and scream as much as you want. But the air it reverberates in has external effects.

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:14 PM (krQz2)

228 Yeah, when your child has been murdered it's hard to appreciate the Soros DA who allowed your child's murderer on the streets.

Umm, yeah. I see too many parents that are plenty happy to feed their children to the machine.

I live in a place with a Soros prosecutor who is much maligned but will be re-elected handily. We are planning to move sometime in the next couple of years

Posted by: blaster at July 18, 2023 07:14 PM (Jk9SN)

229 220 Why do serial killers always get called by their full name?

Robinette

catchy !!

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2023 07:14 PM (us2H3)

230 No rights are absolute. A person's liberty can be removed if they commit terrible crimes.

This is a common misconception. All human rights are absolute, inalienable, and inherent to being a human being, having been granted by God. They cannot be removed or diminished.

However your free expression of those rights can be. A man thrown in jail still maintains the right to liberty, but his free expression of that right has been severely limited.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:14 PM (0hOvj)

231 US soldier laughed as he ran across the DMZ in North Korea, witness says, and was reportedly in trouble with the military

https://tinyurl.com/2uwjw5hu

The NCO who was supposed to ensure he got on the plane back to Ft Bliss has some 'splainin to do.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 18, 2023 07:14 PM (TO3l8)

232 and it is cultural, and the globalists (LBJ style) keep making it worse. They propped up Trayvon, Gentle Giant of Ferguson, and Saint George as heroes/martyrs ... why do the "elite" insist on making the violent druggies into the martyrs for the "black neighborhood"?

Yet blacks that succeed on merit and perhaps turn Republican are scorned and called "Uncle Toms" (and iirc, they have that Tom character wrong anyway).
Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 07:04 PM (Cus5s)

They don't like black people stepping off the ideological plantation for sure. The sanctification of lowlives is one I can't quite figure out. There are plenty of cases where cops have done horribly shitty things to black people who were legitimately innocent. Why aren't those people the face(s) of the racial "justice" movements? Further degradation of the social order?

Posted by: It's fucking weird at July 18, 2023 07:15 PM (uoAlb)

233 I really don't think you either have the "right" to do something nobody thinks you have the right to do, or we do not have some inalienable rights that cannot be removed from us.

That sounds like a left-like making the perfect the enemy of the good.

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:15 PM (krQz2)

234 With the Lord, all things are possible.
Without God, however...

Posted by: SMH
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Truer words never spoken.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 07:13 PM (YUvzq)
******
So many people have fallen away from God, which is why we're in the mess we're in.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2023 07:15 PM (NpAcC)

235 Why do serial killers always get called by their full name?
Posted by: Joe
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: John Wesley Hardin at July 18, 2023 07:16 PM (WTJmT)

236 Is there no way to stop people from screaming in a library all day long? Or in a church service? Because they have the "divine and inalienable right" to do so?

See my post up there aways where I wrote about how we agree as a society to restrict the free expression of our rights in order to create stability and greater overall liberty.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:16 PM (0hOvj)

237 if your middle name is Melvin

you are not serial killer material

Posted by: REDACTED at July 18, 2023 07:16 PM (us2H3)

238 "116 They love being in charge of your suffering. It makes them feel like a God. And I'm not talking about serial killers.

This stuff about not being appreciative enough is all just rubbing their balls in your face.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2023 06:50 PM (lX8VI) "

you are very close to making a really important and overlooked point: the 80 - 90% overlap of the beliefs of serial killers and authoritarian politicians.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at July 18, 2023 07:16 PM (GGQV4)

239 All Politicians have politician hair.

Trump's hair takes the cake, though.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 18, 2023 07:16 PM (mZ3xv)

240 By my inalienable right to swing my arms, you need to stay out of the way of where I swing my arms!!

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:16 PM (krQz2)

241 This entire country has lost its mind, and these leftists are behind it all.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 18, 2023 07:16 PM (bkUtD)

242
He's an E2. E3s get the private first class rank, then specialist (E4) for junior enlisted.
Posted by: UGAdawg
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Uh...
Posted by: Corporal at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (XnsY+)

In the US Army, you generally only get Corporal stripes as an E-4 if you're in a combat arms leadership position, otherwise you're a Spec 4. Back in my time, you also had to have passed the promotion board for SGT as well. Not sure about nowadays.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2023 07:17 PM (n+4am)

243 Do serial killers have a rye sense of humor?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 18, 2023 07:17 PM (NNfdG)

244 "2022 Howard University Showtime Marching Band - Neck / Skin I'm In"

https://youtu.be/m2uhkKfpthg?t=312

I don't know how we move away from this and back to self respect.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 06:59 PM (YUvzq)

That's...pretty tame actually. There's no stripper show going on. Dance and cheerleader teams have had a little bump and grind in their routines for decades now.

Posted by: I think you're being a wee bit prudish
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Ha. Didn't watch 5:30, eh?

Regardless, I was hoping someone would respond that way, because it sets up the REALLY bad HBCU stuff.

Here's an official link to the Alcorn State Majorettes entrance to a game.

https://youtu.be/N_X9Mt1M2fg?t=81

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 07:18 PM (YUvzq)

245 Why aren't those people the face(s) of the racial "justice" movements? Further degradation of the social order?

Yeah, it has to be that. Why pick these known thugs and drug addicts as the face of injustice? Why pick the worst of them instead of some poor little kid or innocent man? There have been just regular hard working black men who were gunned down by the police for no reason "I thought he had a gun!"

But BLM never picks those guys. Its always some loser scumbag who does terrible things and gets killed in the act of doing more terrible things. It has to be on purpose.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:18 PM (0hOvj)

246 240 By my inalienable right to swing my arms, you need to stay out of the way of where I swing my arms!!
Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:16 PM (krQz2)

YOU PEOPLE!

Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 18, 2023 07:18 PM (PiwSw)

247 I hope Private King doesn't drink any warm beer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2023 07:18 PM (63Dwl)

248 KATE Brown, not Tina.

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at July 18, 2023 07:18 PM (8yM+6)

249 220 Why do serial killers always get called by their full name?

Union rules.

Posted by: John Wayne Gacy at July 18, 2023 07:18 PM (PWI4f)

250 Soros DA, "People do not have volition, but guns do."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2023 07:19 PM (RH6eh)

251 Pence/Price unity ticket!

Not my concern!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 18, 2023 07:19 PM (hcGu7)

252 240 By my inalienable right to swing my arms, you need to stay out of the way of where I swing my arms!!
Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:16 PM (krQz2)

OK Bart Simpson

Posted by: If you get hit it's your own fault! at July 18, 2023 07:19 PM (uoAlb)

253 Ordinary public libraries enforce a different level of silence compared to Ivy League Law Library.

But screaming is unacceptable behavior in both.

Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2023 07:20 PM (cZnIJ)

254 My dad was a corporal in the Air Force at Lowrey AF Base in Denver. He was a medic, so I think they gave him the rank just so he could boss people around in an emergency, not because of his exemplary behavior and experience. He hated the military and all its rules.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:20 PM (0hOvj)

255
Do serial killers have a rye sense of humor?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 18, 2023 07:17 PM (NNfdG)

Only when sowing their wild oats, like the lovable scamps that they are.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2023 07:20 PM (n+4am)

256 Is Mumia still locked up?

Is Jimmy Carter still alive?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2023 07:20 PM (RH6eh)

257 I guess it’s true that things fail slowly, then all at once. I wonder how long it takes to loot the expensive hill homes that ring the SF Bay Area.

I’m looking at you Mill Valley, Los Altos and Hillsborough.
Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2023 07:13 PM (cZnIJ)

I'm thinking next year's Summer of Love II will take care of those areas.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2023 07:20 PM (BdMk6)

258 "Has anyone ever seen any indication that so called "restorative justice" is in any way effective?"

It'd be fine, if what they were doing were actually restorative justice: i.e. the criminal does something to rectify the harm he did to his victims, like replacing the stuff he stole, or paying for the victim's medical bills, or committing suicide after killing someone.

But, ~yet again~, the Left has taken a useful concept, gutted it, and is running around wearing its skin-suit.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 18, 2023 07:20 PM (ou9hh)

259 Why do serial killers always get called by their full name

Come to think of it, there's never been a serial killer named Bud.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 18, 2023 07:21 PM (NNfdG)

260 " ... Further degradation of the social order?

Posted by: It's fucking weird at July 18, 2023 07:15 PM (uoAlb) "

that's really all that any of this has been about for a long, long time.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying liars have been lying for decades at July 18, 2023 07:22 PM (GGQV4)

261 OK Bart Simpson

One of my favorite bits with the Simpsons kids

https://youtu.be/xa_k9cGMqOM?t=31

Its so much like actual kids

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:22 PM (0hOvj)

262 "Do serial killers have a rye sense of humor?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd "

There's a grain of truth in that.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2023 07:22 PM (iayUP)

263 There was some kind of future YouTube video going on at the Walmart while I was shopping today. So woman was screaming rather incoherently. You could hear it from across the store. She would not shut up.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 18, 2023 07:22 PM (aD39U)

264 Even Jack the Ripper used his full name.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 18, 2023 07:22 PM (NNfdG)

265 Ah. Note 'punished for misconduct'. He, apparently, was already a bad player. My guess is, he is/was trying to dodge UCMJ treatment.
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That sounds right. One report said he was in some UCMJ trouble. MP's were supposed to put him on a plane, but they weren't allowed through airport security. The turd escaped somewhere between the gate and the plane, and found his way to a Panmunjom tour bus.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 18, 2023 07:22 PM (sWM8x)

266 Also in Portland... A tranny was attacked and the friend who stepped in to defend him was stabbed to death.

Want to guess why the story isn't plastered all over the national news?

The stabber just happens to be a young black male who targeted and harassed an LGBTQ+ person!

Posted by: Jay in PA at July 18, 2023 07:23 PM (i7Q7S)

267
https://tinyurl.com/bp8se3uc

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2023 06:41 PM (ZLI7S)

Shit. I grew up going to Hank's dairy farm. Spent a lot of time a couple of summers there back in the 80's.
You won't find a more honest decent man. I was just there 4 years ago. He's some sort of cousin.
Fuck!!!

Posted by: Rreforger at July 18, 2023 07:23 PM (B705c)

268 I was in the Army in the early Nineties in Germany. I was a Spec 4 and the one time I had to fill in for the E-4 Corporal, I had the wildest day of my Army career. I almost blew up a pre-school class and ended up getting a key to the City (figuratively speaking, I really got a plaque) from the town where the incident happened. From the Army, I got a whole bunch of "shut up". I was licensed to drive the vehicle but I hadn't done the recent training mandate.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 18, 2023 07:24 PM (2cS/G)

269 "If you're shouting in a theater, you're on somebody else's property. If you're shouting in a library, you're on the public's collective property."

I'm pretty sure that is what I said. It depends on the context of the situation ... whether you have the absolute right ... it is a balance against other people's rights.

One does not live in a vacuum with "Inalienable Right" to block the interstate, for example. It is all part of that "my speech is violent, their violence is speech" thang. Context determines the "limits".

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 07:24 PM (Cus5s)

270 Pretending stripper routines "aren't that bad" is contributing to the decay, because there is no way people would watch non-HBCU cheerleaders engaging in those performances at a game - in front of little girls and boys - and calling them normal.

They're only acceptable because of something else.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 18, 2023 07:24 PM (YUvzq)

271 US soldier laughed as he ran across the DMZ in North Korea, witness says, and was reportedly in trouble with the military

His troubles just multiplied bigly.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 18, 2023 07:25 PM (Xrfse)

272 OK sounds like the NK guy is a bad actor trying to escape justice, and it really is a Bowe Bergdal thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:25 PM (0hOvj)

273 Why do serial killers always get called by their full name
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Duh! Because they did something wrong.

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:25 PM (krQz2)

274 FWIW my pick for JT Ripper is the guy who was confined in a lunatic asylum after the Las murder.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 18, 2023 07:25 PM (NNfdG)

275 Well, the Howard U band was at least well rehearsed

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2023 07:25 PM (xhxe8)

276 Letting serial killers out of prison isn't even the worst thing she has done.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 18, 2023 07:26 PM (h1jJh)

277 Cafe is open.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2023 07:27 PM (OX9vb)

278 Wesley Cook is still in jail. Fuck his made up bullshit.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2023 07:27 PM (mC1F3)

279 Do cereal killers rely on lucky charms?

Or some other kind of trix?

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:27 PM (krQz2)

280 Dogfaced Pony Soldier thread.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 18, 2023 07:27 PM (aD39U)

281
It's pretty obvious to me that the Soros DAs are doing this specifically to provoke a vigilante response, preferably white on black. Result being a Mansonesque Helter Skelter style race war.

The Donk commie cocksuckers have been salivating over the prospects of a race war for generations, going all the way back to Jim Crow. Manson was just doing his Donk duty.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2023 07:27 PM (n+4am)

282 Duh! Because they did something wrong.

So its like mom yelling at you to get down here right now? I was the youngest of 4 boys so she'd usually run down the whole list to get to my name, she was so upset

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:27 PM (0hOvj)

283 > No rights are absolute.

> A man thrown in jail still maintains the right to liberty, but his free expression of that right has been severely limited.

This makes no sense. If one's right to liberty can legally be limited, it's not absolute. If it's absolute, it can't be legally limited.

We accept that a person's right to liberty can be removed with the caveat that it must be done according to just law and just criminal procedure.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2023 07:28 PM (V1QHJ)

284 That sounds right. One report said he was in some UCMJ trouble. MP's were supposed to put him on a plane, but they weren't allowed through airport security. The turd escaped somewhere between the gate and the plane, and found his way to a Panmunjom tour bus.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 18, 2023 07:22 PM (sWM8x)

He's going to love the Nork prison system.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2023 07:28 PM (BdMk6)

285 I was licensed to drive the vehicle but I hadn't done the recent training mandate.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 18, 2023 07:24 PM (2cS/G)

Somehow I wound up with 30,000 logged miles on a HMMVEE. I was there same time. 90-92'. They might have added my miles in the Volkswagon busses

I drove a bunch but nowhere near 30,000 in a Hummer. (which nobody called them) they were Hum Vees.

Posted by: Rreforger at July 18, 2023 07:29 PM (B705c)

286 >>They're only acceptable because of something else.

"Hiya!! Wanna hear about our top music videos and associated awards!?!"
-- CardiB, Lizzo and Megann Thee STallion (or whatevs)

Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2023 07:30 PM (avru5)

287 Next door WA *almost* let out the GREEN RIVER KILLER out of COVID "kindness."

No shit, not kidding. It was that close. Someone had to ask WTF to get that shut down.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 18, 2023 07:32 PM (4enNW)

288 >>Do cereal killers rely on lucky charms?
Or some other kind of trix?

Honey Oh, they're coocoo for cocoa puffs - doesn't take a great grain to see that!
They should be rounded up by Cap'n Crunch and fried to a crispex!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2023 07:33 PM (avru5)

289 Reforger, you ever go to Baumholder or Strassburg? Apart from Graf, Hoenfels, Wilseck, that's where i was. I was only in Germany for one Reforger, and it was cake. All the Reservists did the work, we just kept shit reasonably under control.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 18, 2023 07:34 PM (2cS/G)

290 This makes no sense. If one's right to liberty can legally be limited, it's not absolute. If it's absolute, it can't be legally limited.

He still has the RIGHT to it, even if he cannot carry out that right the way he wants. The RIGHT is permanent and cannot be reduced. The free expression of that right can be. Its pretty simple, if you think about it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:36 PM (0hOvj)

291 283 > No rights are absolute.

> A man thrown in jail still maintains the right to liberty, but his free expression of that right has been severely limited.

This makes no sense. If one's right to liberty can legally be limited, it's not absolute. If it's absolute, it can't be legally limited.

We accept that a person's right to liberty can be removed with the caveat that it must be done according to just law and just criminal procedure.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2023 07:28 PM (V1QHJ)

I say they're absolute even in prison. I'm sure prisoners can express their opinions and ideas as long as there's no immediate negative repercussions from them.

Their belongings and cells can be searched and seized because they're residents in a government facility (just like members of the military).

2d Amendment? Some places allow guns. Prisons don't.

And the list could go on......

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2023 07:37 PM (BdMk6)

292 "Calhoun is currently in custody at Snake River Correctional Institution in Ontario, where he was lodged July 6 on charges apparently unrelated to the murders. (The charges on which he is being held do not show up in online court records, which is unusual.)"

Hmmm. Pedo, perhaps?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at July 18, 2023 07:43 PM (US07T)

293 Is there no way to stop people from screaming in a library all day long? Or in a church service? Because they have the "divine and inalienable right" to do so?
Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 07:11 PM (Cus5s)

A) it is a property rights issue, the owner of a property has the ability to set standards of use. Something municipal owned libraries say they don't have the right to enforce. The problem seems to be an interpretation of "no laws to restrict 1A rights" without considering the use the facility is for. Even in private situations there have been problems, in Colonial MA Quakers were coming to disrupt Puritan services as a way to protest the Commonwealth's laws against Quakers, at times coming to Puritan church services naked in protest which was a real issue in the 1600s.
Even with the full force of law behind them, the commonwealth and the Puritan church did not want to execute them. But they did.
I don't think there is any real method short of imprisonment today if someone decided to disrupt your church service and would not be excluded, however, that is still a property right and a trespass issue, not a civil rights issue.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 07:47 PM (xhaym)

294 Why do serial killers always get called by their full name

Come to think of it, there's never been a serial killer named Bud.
Posted by: That Northernlurker

There has been a victim named Bud, though. Bud Light. Killed by a tranny. Go figure.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at July 18, 2023 07:48 PM (US07T)

295 No rights are absolute. A person's liberty can be removed if they commit terrible crimes. A person's freedom of speech doesn't extend to fraud. A person's freedom to peacefully assemble doesn't grant them liberty to assemble in your living room without your permission. A person's right to self-defense doesn't grant them liberty to kill just because they're personally affronted or embarrassed.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2023 07:13 PM (V1QHJ)

Congratulations, you have figured out that lying, trespass and murder are not rights.
I hope it has not passed you by that no one thinks they are rights.
Rights are absolute. They do not allow an individual to violate other individuals' rights, because those rights are absolute too.

Where violation of someone else's rights is not avoidable, to use the classic "catch yourself on a flagpole on someone's balcony while plummeting to your death" form of trespass, there is an obligation for redress. Either compensation and penalty for trespass, or rent, or even the owner declaring a mulligan. This is needed to affirn ownership, and not ceding rights due to "common use" by the hordes of people falling to their deaths

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 07:58 PM (xhaym)

296 Do cereal killers rely on lucky charms?
Or some other kind of trix?

Honey Oh, they're coocoo for cocoa puffs - doesn't take a great grain to see that!
They should be rounded up by Cap'n Crunch and fried to a crispex!!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2023 07:33 PM (avru5)
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Cheerios! You're Raisin Bran new ideas!

And if I have to be Frank n' Berry honest, you are one who chex my ego.

Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2023 07:58 PM (krQz2)

297 See my post up there aways where I wrote about how we agree as a society to restrict the free expression of our rights in order to create stability and greater overall liberty.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 18, 2023 07:16 PM (0hOvj

Montesquieu I think/ We cede a portion of our rights to avoid anarchy which would be terrible to suffer.

A deeply maligned author made rebuttal to this:

A plan of this kind, the preliminary of which should be an abolition of all the present parish laws, seems to be the best calculated to increase the mass of happiness among the common people of England. To prevent the recurrence of misery, is, alas! beyond the power of man. In the vain endeavour to attain what in the nature of things is impossible, we now sacrifice not only possible but certain benefits. We tell the common people that if they will submit to a code of tyrannical regulations, they shall never be in want. They do submit to these regulations. They perform their part of the contract, but we do not, nay cannot, perform ours, and thus the poor sacrifice the valuable blessing of liberty and receive nothing that can be called an equivalent in return.

Thomas Malthus, 1798

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2023 08:04 PM (xhaym)

298 "that is still a property right and a trespass issue, not a civil rights issue."

well it is semantics, but I think it is rights weighed (in that balance) against other's rights, such as a right to protect their property, with a gun even.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 18, 2023 08:57 PM (Cus5s)

299 we all know where this is now headed: the intense pressure to not charge jesse lee calhoun with murder because it will make the former democrat governor look an awful lot like an accessory to serial killing

Posted by: sound awake at July 18, 2023 09:51 PM (g7ym/)

300 I am so completely ashamed of our country right now, especially of those who took oaths to uphold the laws and protect us. And what are they doing? Using their authority to prosecute their political opponents and release real criminals upon the streets in our communities.

Our republic is lost.

It should have never come to this but hey, I guess everything has a price after all, including ethics.

Posted by: Tracy at July 18, 2023 11:09 PM (XPlTU)

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