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Matt Taibbi's Twitter Files #15: Uncovering the Hamilton68 "Russian Disinformation" Scam

It was all a lie from the start.

Even Twitter knew it was a lie -- and considered going public to call Hamilton68 and Bill Kristol and Michael McFaul and all the shrieking "RUSSIAN AGENT!" smear merchants liars in public.

But they were cowards, and instead tried leaking it to the press.

Who didn't seem very interested in the story.

But Hamilton68's "Secret List" of RUSSIAN AGENTS who proved that right-wing memes and arguments were being "AMPLIFIED BY THE KREMLIN" was always a lie.

That's why they kept the list a secret. If they published the names of the Americans, Canadians, and Brits on the list, people would see it was all a lie.

And then those people, I think, could sue Hamilton 68, Alliance for Securing Democracy, Bill Kristol and, who knows, maybe George Soros too, who is surely one of the donors to this corrupt scheme.

Again, news organizations which do not publicly disavow these Hamilton 68 stories should not be trusted, and subscribers/followers of such outlets -- the @nytimes, @washingtonpost, @CNNnewsroom, @NBCNews, and especially @MotherJones-- should write in to complain.


The whole point was to brand conservative discussion as "Russian Disinformation."

And Bill Kristol was in the thick of it, as usual.

7. The ASD ["Alliance for Security Democracy," another Bill Kristol grift] advisory council includes neoconservative writer Bill Kristol, former Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, ex-Hillary for America chief John Podesta, and former heads or deputy heads of the CIA, NSA, and the Department of Homeland Security.

8. News outlets for years cited Watts and Hamilton 68 when claiming Russian bots were "amplifying" an endless parade of social media causes -- against strikes in Syria, in support of Fox host Laura Ingraham, the campaigns of both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.

Any time conservatives were interested in a subject or had a disagreement with The Regime, Hamilton68 was right there to claim their arguments were all being "signal-boosted" by RUSSIAN AGENTS.

9. Hamilton 68 was the source for stories claiming Russian bots pushed terms like "deep state" or hashtags like #FireMcMaster, #SchumerShutdown, #WalkAway, #ReleaseTheMemo, #AlabamaSenateRace, and #ParklandShooting, among many others.

Almost all of these tweets have screencaps -- evidence -- linked in them. I'm skipping that, but do check the thread to see that.

And now: We come to Hamilton68's "methodology" for branding all of these accounts and all of this social media activity "RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION."

They say they had a list. A secret list, mind you! A secret list so secret they had to keep it secret, so that the Russkies wouldn't know they had the list!

10. The secret ingredient to Hamilton 68's analytical method? A list: "Our analysis has linked 600 Twitter accounts to Russian influence activities online," was how the site put it at launch.

11. Hamilton 68 never released the list, claiming "the Russians will simply shut [the accounts] down." All those reporters and TV personalities making claims about "Russian bots" never really knew what they were describing.


They claimed -- with breathless disregard to how they were repeating the McCarthy-era claims of secret lists of communists (except, um, those lists were real) -- they had a Secret List of Russian Accounts, and they could tell who was being amplified through RUSSIAN MANIPULATION, because they knew who the RUSSIAN AGENTS were.

But it's a secret! The list is secret!

But just trust them!

Would Bill Kristol lie to you?

Well, as a matter of fact: Yes. Yes Bill Kristol would like to you.


14. In layman's terms, the Hamilton 68 barely had any Russians. In fact, apart from a few RT accounts, it's mostly full of ordinary Americans, Canadians, and British.

15. It was a scam. Instead of tracking how "Russia" influenced American attitudes, Hamilton 68 simply collected a handful of mostly real, mostly American accounts, and described their organic conversations as Russian scheming.

16. Twitter immediately recognized these Hamilton-driven news stories posed a major ethical problem, potentially implicating them.

"Real people need to know they've been unilaterally labeled Russian stooges without evidence or recourse," Roth wrote.

17.Some Twitter execs badly wanted to out Hamilton 68. After Russians were blamed for hyping the #ParklandShooting hashtag, one wrote:

"Why can't we say we've investigated... and citing Hamilton 68 is being wrong, irresponsible, and biased?"

18.Yoel Roth wanted a confrontation. "My recommendation at this stage is an ultimatum: you release the list or we do," he wrote.

However, there were internal concerns about taking on the politically connected Alliance for Securing Democracy.

19."We have to be careful in how much we push back on ASD publicly," said future White House and NSC spokesperson Emily Horne.

20."I also have been very frustrated in not calling out Hamilton 68 more publicly, but understand we have to play a longer game here," wrote Carlos Monje, the future senior advisor to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.


21. So the "legitimate people," as one Twitter exec called them, never found out they'd been used as fodder for mountains of news stories about "Russian influence." Because the #TwitterFiles contain the list, they've begun finding out.

22."I'm shocked," says Sonia Monsour, who as a child lived through civil war in Lebanon. "Supposedly in a free world, we are being watched at many levels, by what we say online."


23. "I've written a book about the U.S. Constitution," says Chicago-based lawyer Dave Shestokas. "How I made a list like this is incredible to me."


24. "When I was growing up, my father told me about the McCarthyite blacklist," says Oregon native Jacob Levich. "As a child it would never have occurred to me that this would come back, in force and broadly, in a way... designed to undermine rights we hold dear."

25. Even Twitter execs were stunned to read who was on the list. Wrote policy chief Nick Pickles about British comic @Holbornlolz: "A wind-up merchant... I follow him and wouldn't say he's pro-Russian... I can't even remember him tweeting about Russia."

26. I'm listed as a foreign bot?" said conservative media figure Dennis Michael Lynch. "As a proud taxpaying citizen, charitable family man, and honest son of a U.S. Marine, I deserve better. We all do!"

27. Consortium editor Joe Lauria too was angered to find he was on the list, which targeted voices across the spectrum: "Organizations like Hamilton 68 are in business to enforce an official narrative, which means excising inconvenient facts, which they call 'misinformation.'"


32. It was a lie. The illusion of Russian support was created by tracking people like Joe Lauria, Sonia Monsour, and Dave Shestokas. Virtually every major American news organization cited these fake tales-- even fact-checking sites like Snopes and Politifact.

"Even fact-checking sites like Snopes and Politifact."

LOL.

Is he joking? Was that a gag?


33.Twitter didn't have the guts to out Hamilton 68 publicly but did try to speak to reporters off the record. "Reporters are chafing," said Horne. "It's like shouting into a void."

34. Roth was offended by the idea that tweets on certain themes suggested subversion. "Can we talk about how incredibly condescending...? If you talk about these themes, you must have been duped by Russian propaganda."

Even Yoel Roth rejected Bill Kristol's corrupt, defamatory disinformation.

35. Again, even Roth, like most Twitter execs an ardent Democratic partisan, saw that the Hamilton scheme would lead people "to assert that any right-leaning content is propagated by Russian bots."

36.At least two other research institutions that used similar methodologies -- and were cited as sources in news stories -- were also criticized in Twitter email correspondence.

37.MSNBC, Watts, the Washington Post, Politico, Mother Jones (which did at least 14 Hamilton 68 stories), the Alliance for Securing Democracy, and the offices of politicians like Dianne Feinstein all refused comment, unless this counts:

asdresponse.jpg

38.This was an academic scandal as well, as Harvard, Princeton, Temple, NYU, GWU, and other universities promoted Hamilton 68 as a source...

39.Perhaps most embarrassingly, elected officials promoted the site, and invited Hamilton "experts" to testify. Dianne Feinstein, James Lankford, Richard Blumenthal, Adam Schiff, and Mark Warner were among the offenders.

40.The mix of digital McCarthyism and fraud did great damage to American politics and culture. News outlets that don't disavow these stories, or still pay Hamilton vets as analysts, shouldn't be trusted. Every subscriber to those outlets to write to editors about the issue.

More coming from his site, Racket News. That's his renamed substack, which was formerly TK News.

Comments

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1 I am not sure "we were naive retards who believed after hearing them screech for narrative control for a decade that the media would do its job!" is the look for twatter they think it is....

Posted by: sven at January 27, 2023 02:07 PM (Lzpvj)

2 and I am so grey,

Posted by: sven at January 27, 2023 02:07 PM (Lzpvj)

3 *angry chimp noises*

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 27, 2023 02:08 PM (ppBhU)

4 Dang and I was just getting into the Paul Pelosi story.

Posted by: Mishdog at January 27, 2023 02:08 PM (uwW33)

5 Disrespectful faux bots give us real bots a bad name!

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 02:08 PM (dCxaZ)

6 Perhaps most embarrassingly, elected officials promoted the site, and invited Hamilton "experts" to testify. Dianne Feinstein, James Lankford, Richard Blumenthal, Adam Schiff, and Mark Warner were among the offenders.

They aren't embarrassed and will never admit they were mistaken because they were not. They were lying.

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2023 02:09 PM (dTFZY)

7 Hamilton 68 also besmirches Alexander Hamilton the actual human being whio would have loved the internet and woulkd have made Trump look tame.

Lamont, fix the grey.

Posted by: sven at January 27, 2023 02:09 PM (Lzpvj)

8 Ahoy!

Posted by: Dr. T at January 27, 2023 02:09 PM (ScWPk)

9 Here's a hammer, guys!

Let's break out of the grey box!

🔨

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 27, 2023 02:10 PM (Vwz3I)

10 6 Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2023 02:09 PM (dTFZY)

I do not believe Twatter's protestations that the moonbats there were not acting in a collusory fashion with the donks.

Just "no" and GloboHomo is cowing Musk into going back to 66% of the old regime;s supine butt thrusts left.

Posted by: sven at January 27, 2023 02:10 PM (Lzpvj)

11 Academe will continue to go along with the dem scams, and like all the WEF stuff. They, almost to a person, believe they are part of the select, just like Kerry does.

Posted by: CN at January 27, 2023 02:11 PM (Zzbjj)

12 Russia sure is being shoved front and center as an enemy of the United States which is odd because obama called romney out in the second debate saying Russia is no threat to the US.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 27, 2023 02:12 PM (uNylN)

13 This was an academic scandal as well, as Harvard, Princeton, Temple, NYU, GWU, and other universities promoted Hamilton 68 as a source...
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Funny, because the slogan on the Harvard logo is "Veritas."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 27, 2023 02:12 PM (lf83v)

14 Why does it matter? Trump is done and we need to move on to True Conservative Ron DeSantis, who is so pure that there's no way that this crap could ever be pulled against him.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 27, 2023 02:12 PM (wmDcS)

15 Sue like the wind!

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at January 27, 2023 02:12 PM (zB/T/)

16 >>>9 Here's a hammer, guys!
Let's break out of the grey box!

even i know that's foolishness and i'm a big dummy

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:13 PM (C1Zwz)

17 Funny, because the slogan on the Harvard logo is "Veritas."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 27, 2023 02:12 PM (lf83v)

We will tell OUR truth!

Posted by: Harvard elite at January 27, 2023 02:13 PM (Zzbjj)

18 We could have had a wonderful, prosperous, peaceful country.

But the election was stolen, and the bureaucracy thwarted common sense efforts.

Now, to prevent a nuclear exchange, CJCOS Milli Vanilla has to overthrow the Deep State. Won't happen.

The "elites" are evil barbarians.

What should happen is *beep*
Le'OPSEC. Toujours!, Le'OPSEC!

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 27, 2023 02:13 PM (u82oZ)

19 Imagining a response from Bill Kristol to mirror anything from Robert Reeeiiiiiichhhh! Just clarifying clarity to state the facts and letting me be clear.
-- my word as a boat capt. ahoy!

Posted by: micky at January 27, 2023 02:13 PM (3byMq)

20 I really wonder, can this Republic be saved?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 27, 2023 02:13 PM (anj39)

21 But they were cowards, and instead tried leaking it to the press.

Who didn't seem very interested in the story.

========

Weird...I thought they were fearless truthtellers that made firemen look like pussies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 27, 2023 02:13 PM (LvTSG)

22 12 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 27, 2023 02:12 PM (uNylN)

Urkle was playing hard to buy....

The main damage done by the ValJar wing and Foggy Bottom is mainstreaming Iran as a serious counter to Saudi Arabia with zero reforms demanded.

It makes me physically sick at times thinking about how weak our nation has gotten at backing right.

Posted by: sven at January 27, 2023 02:13 PM (Lzpvj)

23 Damn and I was kinda proud that my son got to hang out with Lankford last year at an archery range.

Posted by: Mishdog at January 27, 2023 02:13 PM (uwW33)

24 >>>14 Why does it matter? Trump is done and we need to move on to True Conservative Ron DeSantis, who is so pure that there's no way that this crap could ever be pulled against him.

is DeSantis releasing his NFT trading cards this week or next week?

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:14 PM (C1Zwz)

25 Why does it matter? Trump is done and we need to move on to True Conservative Ron DeSantis, who is so pure that there's no way that this crap could ever be pulled against him.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 27, 2023 02:12 PM


Were you able to type that with a straight face or did you giggle all the way through?

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2023 02:14 PM (dTFZY)

26 15. It was a scam. Instead of tracking how "Russia" influenced American attitudes, Hamilton 68 simply collected a handful of mostly real, mostly American accounts,

Point of order!

Not a "scam", rather - an op.

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 02:14 PM (dCxaZ)

27 Nick Pickles

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 27, 2023 02:14 PM (63Dwl)

28 Senator Marco Rubio on Thursday sent Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla a letter in response to Project Veritas’ explosive undercover video exposing Pfizer.

A letter.

*raises middle finger and makes simultaneous jerking motion facing DC

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 27, 2023 02:14 PM (D25PY)

29 Cap'n Bill is a liar and fraudster? Huh.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (eGTCV)

30
is DeSantis releasing his NFT trading cards this week or next week?
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:14 PM (C1Zwz)

I don't know who to believe on St Ron

Posted by: CN at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (Zzbjj)

31 Huh. Another conspiracy theory proven true.
What does that make, like 15 in a row?

I guess the joke is a truism now too.
What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth? Nine months.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (FCbAQ)

32 Senator Marco Rubio on Thursday sent Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla a letter in response to Project Veritas’ explosive undercover video exposing Pfizer.

A letter.
_______

Wow. Simmer down, Dondi. Maybe anger management classes are in your future.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (lf83v)

33 "They supported Putin's puppet, so of course they're Russian bots, no matter what you say."
-Rachel Maddow, not a newsperson but trusted as one

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (LvTSG)

34 is DeSantis releasing his NFT trading cards this week or next week?
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:14 PM (C1Zwz)

I lol'd.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (ScWPk)

35 for the last fucking time:

We have turned away from Trump not because of what the leftwing media says about Trump but because of what Trump says and does.

Jesus Christ, the endless sob stories and guilt tripping. "You must support trump to teach the bad people a lesson!"

Give it a fucking rest already.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (C1Zwz)

36 is DeSantis releasing his NFT trading cards this week or next week?

He doesn't have time for that, he's getting the job done like a boss.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 27, 2023 02:16 PM (D25PY)

37 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 27, 2023 02:16 PM (9gDA7)

38 No noodin bastages.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 27, 2023 02:16 PM (9gDA7)

39 What price will Cap'n Bill pay?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at January 27, 2023 02:16 PM (eGTCV)

40 Diogenes

Yes, if we privatize everything. Everything.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 27, 2023 02:16 PM (u82oZ)

41 40.The mix of digital McCarthyism and fraud did great damage to American politics and culture. News outlets that don't disavow these stories, or still pay Hamilton vets as analysts, shouldn't be trusted. Every subscriber to those outlets to write to editors about the issue.

=========

But all of the research that the newspapers used in the 60s about racial animus was 100% on the level, and stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 27, 2023 02:16 PM (LvTSG)

42 "Biden won, didn't he?" - Billy K. lighting a $1K cigar with $100 bill.

Posted by: Scott_T at January 27, 2023 02:17 PM (2waQ7)

43 24 >>>14 Why does it matter? Trump is done and we need to move on to True Conservative Ron DeSantis, who is so pure that there's no way that this crap could ever be pulled against him.

is DeSantis releasing his NFT trading cards this week or next week?
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:14 PM (C1Zwz)

========

Didn't he sell his own clothes?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 27, 2023 02:17 PM (LvTSG)

44
This is way too complicated and how do you expect anyone to follow that and Trump should be in jail, anyway.

My Democrat Mother-in-law has a favorite phrase when you lay out the case that deception and corruption becomes evident:

"Well, you don't know that!"

Posted by: Auspex at January 27, 2023 02:17 PM (j4U/Z)

45 we need to move on to True Conservative Ron DeSantis, who is so pure that there's no way that this crap could ever be pulled against him

Lamont, you're too much of a big dummy to be so cynical.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 27, 2023 02:17 PM (Xrfse)

46 35 Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (C1Zwz)

Quite right Lamont, we have "won by losing" for most of the last 23 years....

I want to win by winning for a bit, and Trump makes that harder not easier whether fair or not.

Posted by: sven at January 27, 2023 02:17 PM (Lzpvj)

47 from the Before Thread:

I'm not Canadian, but have a mullet.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 27, 2023 02:10 PM (9gDA7)


If this is true, you are a Hero.

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 02:17 PM (dCxaZ)

48 Every single thing about Russian Collusion was a lie (and projection) intended to hamstring/ruin Trump's presidency, and subordinate and discredit Trump. Remember there was no "honeymoon" period. Not even a fake one. Not even for a day.

That's why the various investigations only mattered inasmuch as it gave the Left something to report and talk about every day on The Cables and on their fake stupid scam disinformation websites.

I went through this in detail as it was all happening. It was 95% Narrative, the other 5% was intimidation, persecution, and the Left having fun.

Mueller got them through the first two years and the midterms, then shortly thereafter (like - seconds later) it was the Ukraine Phone Call scam and Impeachment, then it was Coof.

Then they stole the election and four years was gone like that {insert Kevin Spacey finger poof}

Posted by: ... at January 27, 2023 02:18 PM (2jjbN)

49 So the narrative is Pelosi's in danger. However the video shows he has a cocktail in his hand. Do I have that right?


I was so terrified I needed a martini?


Posted by: Archer at January 27, 2023 02:18 PM (gmo/4)

50 No noodin bastages.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 27, 2023 02:16 PM (9gDA7)


Eh, don't worry about it, we've already started Trump vs DeSantis part VIII.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 27, 2023 02:18 PM (ScWPk)

51 DeSantis will DeSappoint you. (swid)

Posted by: ... at January 27, 2023 02:19 PM (2jjbN)

52 Russia sure is being shoved front and center as an enemy of the United States which is odd because obama called romney out in the second debate saying Russia is no threat to the US.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 27, 2023 02:12 PM (uNylN)

Barky did so out of political malice to score easy points, but consider the difference less than a decade can make in attitudes;

Germany 1936 vs. Germany 1942
Russia 1944 vs. Russia 1950

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 27, 2023 02:20 PM (FCbAQ)

53 No noodin bastages.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
_________

How long did you sit there clicking refresh in vain with no new posts?

Thinking: "Man there must be some serious typing going on. I can't wait to see what everyone is working on."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 27, 2023 02:20 PM (lf83v)

54 well look take this if it applies to you:

A lot of us want to talk about the news and issues, and some of us seem to only want to talk about trump.

Trump trump trump trump trump

coincidentally, of course, this is all trump wants to talk about too.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:21 PM (C1Zwz)

55 19 and 20 show that the Twitter staffers who discouraged transparency were rewarded with jobs in the Biden administration. I wonder if they acted like they did because they were promised those positions, or were given the positions for proving their reliability.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 27, 2023 02:21 PM (nC+QA)

56 >>>30.These stories raised fears in the population, and most insidious of all, were used to smear people like Tulsi Gabbard as foreign “assets,”

Who are "people like Tulsi Gabbard"?

Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:21 PM (4UYlo)

57 Willowed: I've read that Netflix has a reboot of That '70s Show, That '90s Show, with Debra Jo Rupp and Kurtwood Smith recreating their roles as the parents. The kid actors are all painfully diverse-looking, I see on IMDb.com. Anybody watch this?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:21 PM (J2vNu)

58 Then they stole the election and four years was gone like that {insert Kevin Spacey finger poof}
----------------
You left out the Pubbies in the Houe and Senate. Uniparty really doesn't like the unwashed.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 27, 2023 02:22 PM (3FiQa)

59 35. Again, even Roth, like most Twitter execs an ardent Democratic partisan, saw that the Hamilton scheme would lead people "to assert that any right-leaning content is propagated by Russian bots."


well, yes.

that was the point.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 27, 2023 02:22 PM (w0NJk)

60 56 >>>30.These stories raised fears in the population, and most insidious of all, were used to smear people like Tulsi Gabbard as foreign “assets,”

Who are "people like Tulsi Gabbard"?
Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:21 PM (4UYlo)

========

People who identify as Tulsi Gabbard?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 27, 2023 02:22 PM (LvTSG)

61 Can we get a flaming bird gif for this stuff? Because we seriously need a flaming bird gif for this stuff.

Posted by: CppThis at January 27, 2023 02:22 PM (PZvjL)

62 This only worked because the press wanted to go along with it. They didn't even want to hear anything contrary. If it had just been some new organization saying stuff nobody would have listened. They had impact and reach and influence because they were saying what the left wanted to hear.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:22 PM (0hOvj)

63 9 Here's a hammer, guys!

Let's break out of the grey box!

🔨
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 27, 2023 02:10 PM (Vwz3I)

heh

Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:22 PM (4UYlo)

64 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 27, 2023 02:22 PM (T4tVD)

65 Sponge only has a mullet because he’s fishing for compliments.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2023 02:23 PM (I7AkS)

66 I wouldn't vote for either of them.

Posted by: Omarosa Onee Manigault Newman at January 27, 2023 02:23 PM (D25PY)

67 9 Here's a hammer, guys!

Let's break out of the grey box!

🔨
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 27, 2023 02:10 PM (Vwz3I)

Just like a Canuck!

Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:23 PM (4UYlo)

68 for the last fucking time:

We have turned away from Trump not because of what the leftwing media says about Trump but because of what Trump says and does.

Jesus Christ, the endless sob stories and guilt tripping. "You must support trump to teach the bad people a lesson!"

Give it a fucking rest already.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (C1Zwz)

-----

Seeeeee! Bill Kristol does too post here....

Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2023 02:23 PM (CWiKs)

69 why was the board called "Hamilton68"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:23 PM (J2vNu)

70 Anybody watch this?

It looks no worse than the original bleh show

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:24 PM (0hOvj)

71 >>>
Seeeeee! Bill Kristol does too post here....

Posted by: fixerupper a

obviously, if you're not threadjacking every post to say TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP ONLY TRAITORS DON'T SUPPORT TRUMP, you're Bill Kristol.

I mean, obviously. Trump is literally the only thing that matters and literally the only thing ever worth talking about, ever.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:24 PM (C1Zwz)

72 Well, it worked, didn't it?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2023 02:24 PM (xhaym)

73 It doesn't matter if was a lie from the start. It doesn't matter if the truth is written in in sky in letters of fire. Everything Russiagate is now Leftist Gospel. It is and shall always be Truth in the Liberal Internet Universe (LIU).

Posted by: 29Victor at January 27, 2023 02:24 PM (BJKQV)

74 THis is fine. We just need better candidates.

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:24 PM (PcmMj)

75 Kristol totally squandered his credibility and respect probably didn't change it single mind. How much did that cost his buyers?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at January 27, 2023 02:24 PM (eGTCV)

76 "Well, as a matter of fact: Yes. Yes Bill Kristol would like to you."

'lie', sir!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (CsVWE)

77 Once again, you cannot shame the shameless.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (yQpMk)

78 I hear "Hamilton" and I think of the musical.

Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (4UYlo)

79 >>Kristol totally squandered his credibility and respect

lol

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (C1Zwz)

80 71 I mean, obviously. Trump is literally the only thing that matters and literally the only thing ever worth talking about, ever.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:24 PM (C1Zwz)

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*considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (LvTSG)

81 thought bubble:
Doocy: Karine, why do you continue to lie to us?
KJP: Not lying, Peter. Gaslighting. Next question.

Posted by: micky at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (3byMq)

82 I get the impression that this Roth guy started off liking his and his employer's role in thought policing the unwashed orange ones, but eventually cottoned on to the fact that he'd become an asset in multiple ops by some very unsavory people and got cold feet. But by then there wasn't much that he could do but flap his arms and hope for a miracle.

...which I guess did happen, courtesy of Howard Hughes 2.0

Posted by: CppThis at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (PZvjL)

83 Truth is what is good for the Party.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (yQpMk)

84 Ace,
My take: none of this matters! I mean, it matters, but no one in AZ or GA or WI or NH or NV or MI or PA, etc. is going to give a rat's ass about this in 2024. It's too complex and wonky and has nothing to do with their day to day lives since they don't use Twitter.

We are spilling too much ink about this stuff, as nefarious and disgusting as it is. I want to win in 2024 and going on about this probably won't move the needle. I don't think Youngkin is the right candidate for Pres. in 2024, but how was he able to flip Virginia from blue to red? That's what the laser should be painting. What happened 2-3 three years ago on Twitter. come 2024 might be about as high on the list of grievances as climate change. What do we need to do to win? Talk about the Twitter files and gonifs like Bill Crystal or topics that might move the electorate (if mail in voting can be overcome)?

Posted by: Lex at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (t983B)

85 Anybody watch this?
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It looks no worse than the original bleh show
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023


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The original at least had hot redhead Laura Prepon and cute brunette Mila Kunis. And say what you will about Ashton Kutcher, he's a pretty good physical comedian.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (J2vNu)

86 We have turned away from Trump not because of what the leftwing media says about Trump but because of what Trump says and does.

ACE its not like he's changed. This is how Trump has always been. He just was winning this way in the past, and has no chance now. That's all that's changed. I get it, I don't like him personally or his schtick either, but boosting him when he was successful at it and panning him when he isn't is just... I dunno it doesn't feel right.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (0hOvj)

87 Liars slways accuse non-liars of..you guessed it.....lying. Same as all the other things the feft does.

Posted by: Eromero at January 27, 2023 02:26 PM (z3WCn)

88 Ace seemed to indicate that Lamont would be guest-posting only this week, so maybe his time here is almost up.

Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:26 PM (4UYlo)

89 why was the board called "Hamilton68"?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:23 PM (J2vNu)


Presumably "Hamilton69" was taken.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 27, 2023 02:26 PM (ScWPk)

90 I hear "Hamilton" and I think of the musical.

They both tell made up stories to boost how the left sees the world, so the confusion is understandable.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 27, 2023 02:26 PM (Bd6X8)

91 19 and 20 show that the Twitter staffers who discouraged transparency were rewarded with jobs in the Biden administration. I wonder if they acted like they did because they were promised those positions, or were given the positions for proving their reliability.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 27, 2023 02:21 PM (nC+QA)


I expect they were "of the body" and known to be partisan to begin with. they did it knowing it would get them attention and maybe a position.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2023 02:26 PM (xhaym)

92 I hear "Hamilton" and I think of the musical.
Posted by: m at January 27, 2023


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I think of watches. And $10 bills, but mostly $10 bills.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:26 PM (J2vNu)

93 So, according to America's enemies in the FBI (and broader intelligence community), anything at all that runs contrary to their institutional interests, or those of their primary party, are Russian bots, just like we've been joking all these years.

Posted by: Methos at January 27, 2023 02:27 PM (kOpft)

94 I'm kind of sad I didn't make the Russian Bot List

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 27, 2023 02:27 PM (w0NJk)

95 what I like about Mr RocknRoll Taiibiii is that he responds to his fellow traveler leftist loons unloading their 2016 npc patch firmware.

"like where did i say that I love trump's cock and therefore putin's when I merely said that pelosi used her power to get rich?"

Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:27 PM (MLrvz)

96 Just like a Canuck!

Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:23 PM (4UYlo)


whatever you do, don't turn your back on him!

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 02:28 PM (dCxaZ)

97 I hear "Hamilton" and I think of the musical.

I am glad the din about that has died out. A bunch of black dudes doing a hip hop version of American history is like a bunch of white dudes from Iowa doing a Muzak version of Martin Luther King's life, starring all white dudes.

Oh but its teaching people history! Um, yeah, history that the founding fathers were hip urban black dudes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:28 PM (0hOvj)

98 I really wonder, can this Republic be saved?
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Dude you forgot the sarc tag.

But that's funny.

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:28 PM (N6cCd)

99 Nick Pickles

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 27, 2023 02:14 PM (63Dwl)

Pickle Nickles taste great! Get them all the time at Red Robin!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 27, 2023 02:28 PM (Angsy)

100 Can we get a flaming bird gif for this stuff? Because we seriously need a flaming bird gif for this stuff.
Posted by: CppThis at January 27, 2023 02:22 PM (PZvjL)


Maybe one of the logos from The Hunger Games series.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2023 02:28 PM (xhaym)

101 Lamont the Dummy, does DeSantis have a plan to take PA, AZ, and GA? If so, I would sure like to hear about it.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 27, 2023 02:29 PM (3FiQa)

102 >>>why was the board called "Hamilton68"?

i have no idea beyond the obvious grifty move of calling everything after a founding father, like the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Association.

Though it is probably a reference to the Federalist 68, maybe?

https://founders.archives.gov/
documents/Hamilton/01-04-02-0218

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:29 PM (C1Zwz)

103 79 >>Kristol totally squandered his credibility and respect

lol
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:25 PM (C1Zwz)

So he never had any? Probably true.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 27, 2023 02:29 PM (eGTCV)

104 Let Trump be Trump. I still think he is the better candidate.

Posted by: Archer at January 27, 2023 02:29 PM (gmo/4)

105 97 Oh but its teaching people history! Um, yeah, history that the founding fathers were hip urban black dudes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:28 PM (0hOvj)

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Hamilton himself is one of my least liked figures of the early Republic to begin with.

And the musical is really poorly structured.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 27, 2023 02:29 PM (LvTSG)

106 does taibi or the pelosi police cam point to the moment that hippie nudist blm protestor got brainwashed by Tucker Carlson and decided to attack Paul Pelosi because Putin?

Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:29 PM (MLrvz)

107 75 Kristol totally squandered his credibility and respect probably didn't change it single mind. How much did that cost his buyers?
Posted by: That Northern skulker at January 27, 2023 02:24 PM (eGTCV)

Kristol always seemed like an effete snob to me, but by the same token, he and George Will or ... whatshername (Reagan speechwriter) and Jen Rubin were the only game in town. It was not so much respect as it was the only place to read someone who did not seem to be inimical to your viewpoint. Then along came Jonah and Derbyshire and the explosion of blogs after 9/11 and you started to realize the shape of con, inc. The things that had always niggled at you started to take root, but still you did not think they were bad guys- they were just out of touch with real people.

Then you start to realize that some of the new fresh voices are just retreads of the same tired hacks. Some of the new voices get purged along the way but you figure everyone is still on the same side.

Then comes Trump.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (CsVWE)

108 Fine, let's throw Trump overboard for Ron DeSantis. I like Ron. He's smart, scandal-free, quick on his feet, handsome and he comes with NONE of the baggage that Trump comes with, let's do it.

And we'll sit back and watch as the same media that turned Trump into everything evil and wrong with the world---and a Russian Asset!-- turns De Santis into Trump 2.0

Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (mR6Gs)

109 I shall defend The Shire with my last breath, which I am increasingly short of due to poor diet, vaccine-enlarged heart, and minimal exercise besides watching strangers from the land of Mordor turn my wife into a servant of The Eye.

Posted by: Bilbo Kristol at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (ppBhU)

110 Who are "people like Tulsi Gabbard"?

anyone who doesn't swallow the WEF Groupthink whole, *especially* if that individual is a Fellow Traveler (demonrat) such as Tulsi, Greenwald, or Taibbi.

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (dCxaZ)

111 In one way or another everything seems to be connected with boosting Ukraine and trashing Russia.
Obama ridiculed Romney when he said that Russia was our biggest geopolitical foe but starting with the election of He Who Shall Not Be Named the worst thing you can be called is a Russian sympathizer while at the same time the greatest sin you can commit is not waving your Ukraine emoji.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (ZLI7S)

112 THis is fine. We just need better candidates.
Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:24 PM (PcmMj)
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No decent conservative would ever put themselves and their families through the abuse deceit and slander that goes with running against a liberal press.

Take that for what it's worth.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (FCbAQ)

113 104 Let Trump be Trump. I still think he is the better candidate.
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Yep.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (3FiQa)

114 Everyone seems to know what Trump is supposed to do better than Trump. It's been a thing since 2015.

Whether you like it or not, Trump not only defied the odds and got elected against the opinion of many of these same "experts in what Trump should do", his own party and certainly the opposition party and global media, but he had an incredibly successful presidency in spite of unimaginable headwinds and threats to his person, family, legacy and livelihood that most people couldn't or wouldn't want to fathom 5% of.

So I give him leeway and don't give a fuck if you've "turned away" from him or whatever in favor of Shiny Hero Yale Lawyer.

Posted by: ... at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (2jjbN)

115 Does Bill Kristol have any remaining influence in the GOP? This is a sincere question. I know that people who hang out here don't respect him at all, but is his reputation still intact elsewhere?

If so, I hope this ends his influence.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (eyxn4)

116 108 And we'll sit back and watch as the same media that turned Trump into everything evil and wrong with the world---and a Russian Asset!-- turns De Santis into Trump 2.0
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (mR6Gs)

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And any claim that Philly didn't run it's election 100% cleanly is racist. Also AZ. And MI. And GA.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (LvTSG)

117 I think Trump has the same chance as DeSantis, as the same chance as a dirty dishrag thrown in the corner of winning the presidency. Its irrelevant what he's like or isn't like. No Republican is going to win. The fact people are even debating this is baffling to me. How much more incredibly blatantly obvious does the fraud have to get before it finally sinks in???

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (0hOvj)

118 Mila Kunis, eh. Cute enough, I suppose, but the only thing I associate with her is how she was always yelling “Michael” in that whiny voice of hers. Total turnoff.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2023 02:31 PM (I7AkS)

119 see we're serious statesmen, we create grifting groups that are named after serious people, that makes us serious too

Posted by: Bill Kristol, Grifter and Donut Vaccuum at January 27, 2023 02:31 PM (C1Zwz)

120
Oh but its teaching people history! Um, yeah, history that the founding fathers were hip urban black dudes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Did Hamilton hang with bad boys Lamont and Rollo?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 27, 2023 02:31 PM (63Dwl)

121 115 Does Bill Kristol have any remaining influence in the GOP? This is a sincere question. I know that people who hang out here don't respect him at all, but is his reputation still intact elsewhere?

If so, I hope this ends his influence.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (eyxn4)

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"Bill Kristol is a man of honor with his finger on the pulse of true conservatism."
-Mitch McConnell, probably

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 27, 2023 02:31 PM (LvTSG)

122 Maybe one of the logos from The Hunger Games series.

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https://tinyurl.com/2fdje6e5

Hunger games Logo IS Johnny Bravo.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2023 02:31 PM (CWiKs)

123 Kristol always seemed like an effete snob to me

When The Weekly Standard first started, it was pretty decent. Not really a refutation of snobbery. But it's chief competitor, NR, was run by a snob too.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (ppBhU)

124 >>>Whether you like it or not, Trump not only defied the odds and got elected against the opinion of many of these same "experts in what Trump should do"

How is life living perpetually in 2016?

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (C1Zwz)

125 Lamont the Dummy, does DeSantis have a plan to take PA, AZ, and GA? If so, I would sure like to hear about it.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 27, 2023 02:29 PM (3FiQa)



Georgia is right next door so an overland invasion is likely. Arizona can be an airborne assault since it's population is low. He should just nuke Pennsylvania.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (yQpMk)

126 Kristol always seemed like an effete snob to me,

back in the day when I used to watch the Sunday morning "news"talk shows, he was a fixture. Even though he repped for the anti-demorat side, I always saw a smirk on his face.

He knew he was getting over all this time.

*somebody quick, put him in a dark room with a hammered David dePape!*

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (dCxaZ)

127 Hamilton himself is one of my least liked figures of the early Republic to begin with.

He's a mixed bag. He has some great parts, and yet he's basically a royalist even after the revolution.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (0hOvj)

128 Mila Kunis, eh. Cute enough, I suppose, but the only thing I associate with her is how she was always yelling “Michael” in that whiny voice of hers. Total turnoff.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2023 02:31 PM (I7AkS)

Meg Griffin.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (i0Kzs)

129 The only solution is to permanently shut down Twitter, Facebook and every other social media site. They produce nothing but poison.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 27, 2023 02:33 PM (p+1gI)

130 >>I think Trump has the same chance as DeSantis, as the same chance as a dirty dishrag thrown in the corner of winning the presidency. Its irrelevant what he's like or isn't like. No Republican is going to win. The fact people are even debating this is baffling to me. How much more incredibly blatantly obvious does the fraud have to get before it finally sinks in???

There is the option of fighting back. I'm not ready to roll over for these scumbags quite yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 02:33 PM (ZLI7S)

131 We have turned away from Trump not because of what the leftwing media says about Trump but because of what Trump says and does.

ACE its not like he's changed. This is how Trump has always been. He just was winning this way in the past, and has no chance now. That's all that's changed. I get it, I don't like him personally or his schtick either, but boosting him when he was successful at it and panning him when he isn't is just... I dunno it doesn't feel right.
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don't worry. Ace has a thing for well tanned, short Florida politicians. It flames pretty hot for a while but usually flames out after a tawdry public affair with garbage. Seriously, its a long way out. There's a shit ton of crazy stuff going to happen. There's no way to declare your commitment to someone at this point. Your interest, yes. Your admiration, or lack of it, yes. But a commitment? Now. Too soon. Unless you are getting paid for that public commitment. Which does happen.

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:33 PM (EyPV0)

132 Any thoughts on Trump wanting more of Ronna Rombley or is this just shit stirring like his comments on Mike Pence pbuh.

Take lemons and just squeeze lemon juice into everyone's eyes, like a boss.

Posted by: micky at January 27, 2023 02:33 PM (3byMq)

133 127 "Hamilton himself is one of my least liked figures of the early Republic to begin with."

He's a mixed bag. He has some great parts, and yet he's basically a royalist even after the revolution.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (0hOvj)

To be fair a lot of the supposed benefits of a republic didn't pan out. Like things being so much meritocratic.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 27, 2023 02:33 PM (eYoxG)

134 I'd like to point out that it wasn't me or anyone who is no longer a Trump fanatic who was the aggressor here.

don't start none, won't be none.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:33 PM (C1Zwz)

135 > Everyone seems to know what Trump is supposed to do better than Trump. It's been a thing since 2015.

It's been a thing since humans took their first breath. People will always critique other people's performance, whether they're doing well or not.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 27, 2023 02:33 PM (eyxn4)

136 123 Kristol always seemed like an effete snob to me

When The Weekly Standard first started, it was pretty decent. Not really a refutation of snobbery. But it's chief competitor, NR, was run by a snob too.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (ppBhU)

They were the only games in town. It is like having Cleveland or the Bengals for a home team.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:33 PM (CsVWE)

137 I would vote for Oprah.

Posted by: Dr. Oz at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (D25PY)

138 Did Hamilton hang with bad boys Lamont and Rollo?

Ray Ray and Tyrone were the founding fathers!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (0hOvj)

139 Thanks a lot, CO Alex in Exile.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (ScWPk)

140 130 There is the option of fighting back. I'm not ready to roll over for these scumbags quite yet.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 02:33 PM (ZLI7S)

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If Kari Lake's lawsuit appeal in AZ gets anything done, I may have some hope again, but it's literally the only fight going on right now that MIGHT have an effect on 2024, and it's one state.

PA is just lost completely. So is MI.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (LvTSG)

141 How is life living perpetually in 2016?

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (C1Zwz)

The media is still living in 2016. They're still all-in on Russian Collusion.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (mR6Gs)

142 does DeSantis have a plan to take PA, AZ, and GA? If so, I would sure like to hear about it.

Posted by: Puddinhead at 

Yoo hoo?

Posted by: Michigan at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (DpAEX)

143 A hell of a day, this is, but here's something more, not trump, to think about:

Today, CNN - A British teenager who made far-right extremist videos that “influenced” the mass shooter who killed 10 Black people in a Buffalo, New York, supermarket was jailed for 11 and a half years Friday, the UK’s PA Media news agency reported.

Off for some chores. Have a good afternoon.

Posted by: Lola at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (Wxlzw)

144 Interesting times. Taibbi and Greenwald, a pair of lefties, appear to be among the more honest journalists.

Posted by: mr tmz at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (rJ48h)

145 20 I really wonder, can this Republic be saved?
Posted by: Diogenes
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It is not looking good because essentially, most of the elite in our country and others throughout the West are corrupt, evil, and self serving assholes and because they staff our government offices at the highest levels--our government itself is unable to reign in their behavior.

So you get Madison's Fed 46, if confidence is drained from the national level of government, then the people must turn to the states for a functional government--if the states themselves are corrupted, then you get basically where the people have to rectify the difference between the government's powers on paper and the reality of today.

Posted by: whig at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (eWLl3)

146 Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (C1Zwz)

I honestly have no dog in this fight because with the commies owning the six big swing states, we have not a prayer in any presidential election. But I do observe that you are unusually triggered by any mere mention of Trump.

This seems reactionary. Lamont never ever acted this way, not even when Aunt Esther was out of control. Methinks u r impostor.

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 02:35 PM (dCxaZ)

147 How much more incredibly blatantly obvious does the fraud have to get before it finally sinks in???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (0hOvj)


Dude, go outside, get some January air, touch some frost killed grass, draw in those healthful ozones ahead of the predicted snow.

If that doesn't work, come back and start biting people, but only as a fall back strategy.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2023 02:35 PM (xhaym)

148 >>>don't worry. Ace has a thing for well tanned, short Florida politicians. It flames pretty hot for a while but usually flames out after a tawdry public affair with garbage. Seriously, its a long way out. There's a shit ton of crazy stuff going to happen. There's no way to declare your commitment to someone at this point. Your interest, yes. Your admiration, or lack of it, yes. But a commitment? Now. Too soon. Unless you are getting paid for that public commitment. Which does happen.

I didn't bring any of this up. I'm not the one who seems very very committed to a particular candidate.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:35 PM (C1Zwz)

149 Today, CNN - A British teenager who made far-right extremist videos that “influenced” the mass shooter who killed 10 Black people in a Buffalo, New York, supermarket was jailed for 11 and a half years Friday, the UK’s PA Media news agency reported.

Off for some chores. Have a good afternoon.
Posted by: Lola at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (Wxlzw)

Oh, ffs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:35 PM (CsVWE)

150 How is life living perpetually in 2016?

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (C1Zwz)

Oh stop. I'm in like 2030.

Honestly I had my Trump Wars back then, and I turned out to be right. I will not be having Trump Wars this time around, if mostly because elections are fake and gay, we have no representation, and we are being taken on a ride to hell whether we like it or not.

Posted by: ... at January 27, 2023 02:36 PM (2jjbN)

151 >>I'd like to point out that it wasn't me or anyone who is no longer a Trump fanatic who was the aggressor here.

There are a couple DeSantis fans who drop in from time to time to remind us that Ron is the only true candidate we can support. You don't know what it's like down here in the coal mine.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 02:36 PM (ZLI7S)

152 14. In layman's terms, the Hamilton 68 barely had any Russians. In fact, apart from a few RT accounts, it's mostly full of ordinary Americans, Canadians, and British.
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Wait. That's "RT" as in "Russia Today," right? As in the state-sponsored media company? As in, an outfit that is publicly Russian and advocates for Russian interests, and does *not* hide its biases? Are we talking about that RT? Because that's no secret. Nobody would be concerned to see RT accounts on a list of Russian accounts...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2023 02:36 PM (t0OGg)

153 They were the only games in town. It is like having Cleveland or the Bengals for a home team.

If you were a junky, there was always Human Events, which was the publication for the party's true blackguards. (I really liked Human Events.)

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 27, 2023 02:36 PM (ppBhU)

154 How is life living perpetually in 2016?
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:32 PM (C1Zwz)


When I was backing Cruz as the winner?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2023 02:36 PM (xhaym)

155 IDK about this trump guy because 2024 is 2 years away and the democrats have secured our democracy to the point where they can run gloopy empty head boogers from The World's End at 35% approval rating and still win elections

Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:36 PM (MLrvz)

156 >>>The media is still living in 2016. They're still all-in on Russian Collusion.

true but some people just keep citing the election of 2016 as if there aren't additional data points that can be put on the graph now

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:36 PM (C1Zwz)

157 Can we start shivving each other later? Early days yet. We can sharpen our blades for each other's guts for six months at least.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:36 PM (CsVWE)

158 Dude, go outside, get some January air, touch some frost killed grass, draw in those healthful ozones ahead of the predicted snow.

I'm not freaking out, I'm just amazed that people are arguing over who's the better candidate when nobody the Republicans run will win no matter who they are. its like arguing which Browns quarterback will win the superbowl this year.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (0hOvj)

159 Charlie Watts>Slick Watts>>>>Watts Riots>>>>Clint Watts

Posted by: Wally at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (FJYfm)

160 I mean trump could stop talking if there was a conservative person in the GOP doing that job (not that trump was that helpful in 2020 when moderate liberals were burning down their own cities)

Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (MLrvz)

161 If democrats were involved with quantum mechanics, they would lie about our very nature.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (aMJmz)

162 The weekend is coming

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (cgKDL)

163 "Russian propagandists discover 2020 candidate Tulsi Gabbard" - big news headline

You say Podesta was in on this Hamilton68 thing?
He used to work for Clinton, right?
Didn't Clinton make a big stink about Gabbard being a Russian asset right when it seemed she was scoring points with the Democrat base?
Weird. Probably not connected at all.

Posted by: Fool Otto at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (DB16e)

164 anyway, I have to get some stuff for dinner but can't abide the thought of going food shopping for le food-stuffs...

so imma Instacart dis jawn

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (dCxaZ)

165 All true. But Hamilton accomplished what it set out to do, and nothing will happen to them. Nothing.

Posted by: Elric Blade at January 27, 2023 02:38 PM (iFTx/)

166 Fine, let's throw Trump overboard for Ron DeSantis. I like Ron. He's smart, scandal-free, quick on his feet, handsome and he comes with NONE of the baggage that Trump comes with, let's do it.

And we'll sit back and watch as the same media that turned Trump into everything evil and wrong with the world---and a Russian Asset!-- turns De Santis into Trump 2.0

And they'll do it with Haley or Youngkin or anyone running as an (R)

Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2023 02:38 PM (mR6Gs)

167 Mr. Tweet
@elonmusk
1h
Shame on @MSNBC for misleading the public!

Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:38 PM (4UYlo)

168 20 I really wonder, can this Republic be saved?
Posted by: Diogenes

///

well, mail a letter to George W in 2004 and tell him that "no, massive immigration won't help us, it will only make red states deep blue"

Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:38 PM (MLrvz)

169 Charlie Watts>Slick Watts>>>>Watts Riots>>>>Clint Watts > JC Watts

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 27, 2023 02:38 PM (D25PY)

170 PA is just lost completely. So is MI.
---------------
I would add WI too. BLM Blue Shitholes run the country.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (3FiQa)

171 Off for some chores. Have a good afternoon.

Posted by: Lola at January 27, 2023 02:34 PM (Wxlzw)

Speaking of chores, if any of you single Morons haven't heard, it looks like single women are shopping for husbands at Home Depot. If you're handy, maybe you can get handsy....

https://tinyurl.com/ydmtbuzv

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (Angsy)

172 The weekend is coming
Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (cgKDL)

Not even breathing heavy.

Posted by: The Weekend at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (i0Kzs)

173 However, there were internal concerns about taking on the politically connected Alliance for Securing Democracy.

19."We have to be careful in how much we push back on ASD publicly," said future White House and NSC spokesperson Emily Horne.

20."I also have been very frustrated in not calling out Hamilton 68 more publicly, but understand we have to play a longer game here," wrote Carlos Monje, the future senior advisor to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.

++++
That's a pretty damning three tweets. Twitter, as an organization, is so in the tank in terms of many members of its own internal elite, and so terrified of crossing political operators outside its walls, that it does what it's told or, at very least, refuses to engage in anything that might be perceived as negative by the Complex.

This ain't just Twitter. I'd love to see a Facebook Files or a Google Files or a NYT Files. I'd wager a significant amount of money, right now, that this was not merely a Twitter phenomenon.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (t0OGg)

174 162 The weekend is coming
Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (cgKDL)

I get to cover a 12 hour shift starting at 4 for my second shift guy.

It is going to be a long night.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (CsVWE)

175 How much more incredibly blatantly obvious does the fraud have to get before it finally sinks in???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

If you only knew.

Posted by: 2028 at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (DpAEX)

176 32 Senator Marco Rubio on Thursday sent Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla a letter in response to Project Veritas’ explosive undercover video exposing Pfizer.

A letter.
_______

Wow. Simmer down, Dondi. Maybe anger management classes are in your future.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (lf83v)


Was it a "stern" letter? Because that would mean he's super serious, you guys.

Posted by: a.moron at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (tu3iY)

177 "James Lankford"

Of course. That rat fucking cuck represents everything you need to know about the GOP.

Speaking of, have they put that fat whore grifter Rodent McDaniel back in as RNC chair yet?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (KSNKu)

178 cause the republic is gone and the winners are fighting over the remains, which statues to tear down, and how to date your children.

Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (MLrvz)

179 >>>And we'll sit back and watch as the same media that turned Trump into everything evil and wrong with the world---and a Russian Asset!-- turns De Santis into Trump 2.0

did Trump do anything to alienate voters or is everything just due to "what the media says" about him?

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (C1Zwz)

180 We would have never won the Revolution had it not been for Corn Pop whippin’ Cornwallis’ ass.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2023 02:40 PM (I7AkS)

181 33.Twitter didn't have the guts to out Hamilton 68 publicly but did try to speak to reporters off the record. "Reporters are chafing," said Horne. "It's like shouting into a void."
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The hell you say. You mean the apparatchiks of the State/Party/Media Complex weren't interested in information that would be negative for that same Complex, and weren't interested in publishing sources and methods used by operations undertaken by and for the support of the Complex?

Shocking.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2023 02:40 PM (t0OGg)

182
I'm betting Pelosi was gay with that dude all the time. But even if not? Still hilarious that he was beaten half to death with a hammer, and I hope it happens again.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 27, 2023 02:40 PM (oINRc)

183 170 PA is just lost completely. So is MI.
---------------
I would add WI too. BLM Blue Shitholes run the country.

//////

it's so weird how Trump/GOP is more popular in former swing states that secured their elections. we got florida and ohio and lost these rusty shitbelt states

Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:40 PM (MLrvz)

184 every thread must be threadjacked for trump agitation...

la la la

trump is literally the only thing that matters...

la la la

nothing else is ever worth talking about ...

la la la

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:41 PM (C1Zwz)

185 I'm not freaking out, I'm just amazed that people are arguing over who's the better candidate when nobody the Republicans run will win no matter who they are. its like arguing which Browns quarterback will win the superbowl this year.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (0hOvj)


It is lovely outside, brisk and bright. I promise you, it makes the day nicer being outside.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2023 02:41 PM (xhaym)

186 Has David French the Apostate been implicated in the fraud?

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 27, 2023 02:41 PM (eGTCV)

187 Dear Matt Taibbi,

Please do Q next.

Thank you.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 27, 2023 02:41 PM (/iWhV)

188 This sort of unseemly behaviour by Hamilton68 besmirches the good name of Hamilton## everywhere.

Posted by: Hamilton69 at January 27, 2023 02:41 PM (a3Q+t)

189 The weekend is coming
Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2023


***
For me, it starts in 2 hours!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:41 PM (J2vNu)

190 At all retard wards, they're showing CNN.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 27, 2023 02:42 PM (aMJmz)

191 Watching the original "Manchurian Candidate". SAD.

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 27, 2023 02:42 PM (9sYIl)

192 PDT does attract attention. He's like a magnet that way.

Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:42 PM (4UYlo)

193 161 If democrats were involved with quantum mechanics, they would lie about our very nature.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (aMJmz)

If a Democrat told me to button up my overcoat I'm going out in shorts and a mustard-stained muscle shirt.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 27, 2023 02:43 PM (eGTCV)

194 did Trump do anything to alienate voters or is everything just due to "what the media says" about him?

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (C1Zwz)

Of course. The weird comments he makes from time to time. The whole dinner for LGBTQAIP+ causes.

Still, he is the only means tested candidate at the National level. He did not do everything right, sure- but he actually did things. Hard to discard that.

At the same time, DeSantis is walking the walk in Florida. This is good as well.

For some reason, I do not see the choice or support for the two men to be mutually exclusive right now. It is not a binary choice yet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:43 PM (CsVWE)

195 Federal judge allows Capitol Police officers’ lawsuit against Trump for Jan 6 riot to proceed

https://tinyurl.com/jy4c8cr8

Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2023 02:43 PM (NpAcC)

196 177 "James Lankford"

Of course. That rat fucking cuck represents everything you need to know about the GOP.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat
___________

Why do Okies put up with that guy?

Posted by: Stacey Abrams, Topless at January 27, 2023 02:43 PM (gf7Ez)

197 I am despondent that this scheme is way, way, way less sophisticated than I imagined. If I were going to run a scam like this, I would do network modeling and manipulate the model if needed to show some evidence of a Russian influence network around the users I wanted to blacklist. Maybe they know it, maybe they don't, but the are being amplified by the Russians.

They just had a hit list and refused to discuss it otherwise. They weren't even kinda clever about it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2023 02:43 PM (t0OGg)

198 Everyday is Saturday to me, except Sunday.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2023 02:43 PM (yQpMk)

199 35 for the last fucking time:

We have turned away from Trump not because of what the leftwing media says about Trump but because of what Trump says and does.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (C1Zwz)


I think this is what they call "talking past the sale". I agree with your point, but I'm not sure everyone else here does.

Trump's time is past, and he needs to stop sucking all the oxygen out of the room.

Posted by: a.moron at January 27, 2023 02:43 PM (tu3iY)

200 Huh. Bill Kristol's name continues to show up.
How surprising. /s

Posted by: Flyover at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (Rbu5d)

201 200 maybe

Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (4UYlo)

202 Guys, promise me we won't still be having these fights in the labor camps.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (ScWPk)

203 It is lovely outside, brisk and bright. I promise you, it makes the day nicer being outside.

its not, its gray and raining and not a nice day at all outside but I wish I knew why you keep posting this, do you figure going outside will make the voter fraud go away?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (0hOvj)

204 Twitter: hmm, these trusted anti-Russian accounts seem to be going full McCarthy with the Russian Disinformation label on conservatives. Let's do absolutely nothing of consequence to them and ban conservative accounts, just to be safe.

Also Twitter: Why do conservatives think we're out to get them?

Posted by: Nutsy at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (OfVjg)

205 I don't about you guys but i taught my children how to lie better than that.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (aMJmz)

206 did Trump do anything to alienate voters or is everything just due to "what the media says" about him?

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (C1Zwz)

Trump has flaws. A bunch of criticisms about him are perfectly valid.

OTOH, his presidency was a very good one, better than modern "Republicans" have ever churned out, and seen in the light of a non-stolen 2020 election - it would have been historically great and we wouldn't need to be having this argument.

I have no problem with people backing The New Guy because they never quite dug the old guy and his embarrassing flaws, but there are severe perils to backing The New Guy. Which ironically, the old guy sort of made people forget.

As you mentioned, Lamont, there are always going to be "new data points". We certainly haven't seen all of DeSantis's data points.

Posted by: ... at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (2jjbN)

207 1 Watching the original "Manchurian Candidate". SAD.
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 27, 2023


***
Sinatra Avoidance Disorder?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (J2vNu)

208 39 What price will Cap'n Bill pay?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at January 27, 2023 02:16 PM (eGTCV)


Cap'n Bill and his ilk don't pay, they get paid.

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: a.moron at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (tu3iY)

209 I'm not freaking out, I'm just amazed that people are arguing over who's the better candidate when nobody the Republicans run will win no matter who they are. its like arguing which Browns quarterback will win the superbowl this year.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:37 PM (0hOvj)

Is there a clinical term for delusional masochism?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (KSNKu)

210 every thread must be threadjacked for trump agitation...

la la la

trump is literally the only thing that matters...

la la la

nothing else is ever worth talking about ...

la la la
==
Hilarious. #14 makes a Trump joke at the expense of Desantis and 10 later you are triggered and keep it going. takes two to tango. I don't know what the hell is going to happen six months from now. Nobody does.

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (3sbG5)

211 How much did Trump donate to AZ republican's after he found out Mitch The Bitch was stiffing them?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (D25PY)

212 202 Guys, promise me we won't still be having these fights in the labor camps.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (ScWPk)

They're going to make us drink the hemlock, I think.

Posted by: m at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (4UYlo)

213 How about boobjacking!

https://tinyurl.com/nj5ezs8b

Question for the Horde: Real and a good bra or falsies? That is a lot of lift and separation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (CsVWE)

214 Ctrl-f Trump
Yeah man totally everyone else is having a meltdown not you lol

Posted by: C'mon man at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (lG41+)

215 But they were cowards, and instead tried leaking it to the press.

Who didn't seem very interested in the story.
---
Lamont, you big dummy, I cannot believe that!

Posted by: Axeman at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (krQz2)

216 6...They aren't embarrassed and will never admit they were mistaken because they were not. They were lying.
Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2023 02:09 PM (dTFZY)

This. Exactly.

Posted by: Flyover at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (Rbu5d)

217 179 >>>And we'll sit back and watch as the same media that turned Trump into everything evil and wrong with the world---and a Russian Asset!-- turns De Santis into Trump 2.0

did Trump do anything to alienate voters or is everything just due to "what the media says" about him?

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (C1Zwz)

This. I don't think that anybody can point to a single tweet or utterance from Donald Trump - but especially a tweet - that justified anybody saying about Trump that there was so much drama around him that we needed a break from all the winning to put Biden in the White House.

Every single media report of a Trump tweet that I noticed didn't include the Tweet in its proper context. These reports were just reactions to what he tweeted, which gave the impression of his being unhinged.

It was an Op from the very beginning.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 27, 2023 02:46 PM (/iWhV)

218
Who gives a shit about the Presidency? Meaningless office. Luntz' replica has more pull than the real one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 27, 2023 02:46 PM (oINRc)

219 33.Twitter didn't have the guts to out Hamilton 68 publicly ...

---------

House of Cards Cowards.

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 27, 2023 02:46 PM (q01e3)

220 195 Federal judge allows Capitol Police officers’ lawsuit against Trump for Jan 6 riot to proceed

///

well, that's a briar patch.

one, discovery against the poopoo now that we know the pigs attacked everyone and had agents egging people into the capitol

two, it doesn't matter because the jury will break trump

three, that doesn't matter because first amendment will ultimately win. or not, who cares.

Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:46 PM (MLrvz)

221 Presumably "Hamilton69" was taken.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 27, 2023 02:26 PM (ScWPk)

So Hamilton 68 is like saying "you do me and I owe you one"?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 27, 2023 02:46 PM (FCbAQ)

222 I think the real revelation of the twitter files is that, everything that we knew was going on, but had little evidence to support - is now legitimized.

The American people have been the subject of an Info-op and those who were stupid enough to fall for it will never, ever own up to the fact that they've bet on the wrong horse.

Posted by: Defenestratus at January 27, 2023 02:46 PM (9V81o)

223 >> Presumably "Hamilton69" was taken.

You're thinking of the Jefferson69. Sally Hemmings had to deal with that.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 27, 2023 02:46 PM (uWF4x)

224 202 Guys, promise me we won't still be having these fights in the labor camps.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (ScWPk)

If you weren't a dirty DeSantis supporter, you'd give me that moldy piece of bread crust.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (CsVWE)

225 did Trump do anything to alienate voters or is everything just due to "what the media says" about him?

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (C1Zwz)


There's definitely Trump fatigue that has little to nothing to do with the media.

Posted by: Wally at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (FJYfm)

226 Voters "alienated" by whatever it is Trump did had a choice.

If they were too stupid, misinformed, or irresponsible to make the better (easy) choice, then they are getting exactly what they voted for. About which there wasn't the slightest mystery.

And given the topic of this post - the mind-boggling childish unserious ignorance and malleability of most Americans - the outcome actually shouldn't have been that much of a shock.

Because that is the topic of this post. Not the absurd transparent laughable nonsense about "influence operations" or the pathetic doubts of the lightweight Twitter/tech types, but the fact that such idiocy could have any impact on anything. A dumbed down country dumbed down enough to do anything but laugh about irrelevant wild allegations in relation to real issues is also plenty dumbed down enough to think a border barrier can be "racist!!!!".

Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (OTzUX)

227 How about boobjacking!

https://tinyurl.com/nj5ezs8b

Question for the Horde: Real and a good bra or falsies? That is a lot of lift and separation.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023


***
I don't care which it is. Or they are.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (J2vNu)

228 They just had a hit list and refused to discuss it otherwise. They weren't even kinda clever about it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2023 02:43 PM (t0OGg)

I guess one doesn't have to be when the fucking press is in your pocket. Along with most other institutions.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (i0Kzs)

229 198 Everyday is Saturday to me, except Sunday.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2023 02:43 PM (yQpMk)

This explains how I never have time to post for prolonged periods of time, except on Sunday, the day of rest (which is not actually rest here, but I can claim a few hours for the food thread.

Not sure how I walked into a Twitter post and found a Trump war for the 1st posts I saw...but, that will give me time to keep doing work around here.

Grapefruit bars are out and cooling and look great - now to wait for the full cool and then the fridge. The acre of dishes I have from the bars and making my spouse and college kid dinner to go for her Kennedy Center concert (while I'm gonna make a 2nd dinner for the kids till here) - those are probably no more fun or fascinating than a Trump war (and for the record, I'm pro Lamont on that one), but probably need to get done...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (exHjb)

230 The entire Bulwark crowd has less testosterone than a bag of stale marshmallows.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (eGTCV)

231 None of this would have mattered if that SMOD would have hit D.C. like it should have, if we lived a just world, yesterday.


I blame SMOD and gravity, that bitch!

Posted by: Archer at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (gmo/4)

232 Trump's time is past, and he needs to stop sucking all the oxygen out of the room.
==
technically this is talking past the sale. His time being past is what's up for debate. And there's a real world way to determine that -- its called primaries.

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (bKn/1)

233 The American people have been the subject of an Info-op and those who were stupid enough to fall for it will never, ever own up to the fact that they've bet on the wrong horse.

Posted by: Defenestratus at January 27, 2023 02:46 PM (9V81o)

How can we determine who fell for it vs who was part of it?

Posted by: ... at January 27, 2023 02:48 PM (2jjbN)

234 >>Trump's time is past, and he needs to stop sucking all the oxygen out of the room.

If he's sucking all of the oxygen out of the room then his time has clearly not passed.

He's ahead on virtually every poll right now and it's not particularly close. Personally, I favor Trump a bit over DeSantis right now but I will happily vote for whichever get the nomination. But the reports of Trump's demise are ridiculous.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 02:48 PM (ZLI7S)

235 My takeaway here is that Twitter was (is) doing a lot of censoring and info manipulation with FedGov's assistance. I'm sure the other Silicon Valley titans are doing the same... with Google likely in a position to do significant damage.

This onion needs peeling.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 27, 2023 02:48 PM (Q4IgG)

236 four, can't wait to sue kalama and every other donk for their 2020 moderate leftwing riot fest that actually burned down cities and killed people

Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:49 PM (MLrvz)

237 We don't like Trump.

Posted by: 2A at January 27, 2023 02:49 PM (D25PY)

238 *peeks in*

*backs away*

Posted by: SMH at January 27, 2023 02:49 PM (ifBkc)

239 If he's sucking all of the oxygen out of the room then his time has clearly not passed.

He's ahead on virtually every poll right now and it's not particularly close. Personally, I favor Trump a bit over DeSantis right now but I will happily vote for whichever get the nomination. But the reports of Trump's demise are ridiculous.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 02:48 PM (ZLI7S)

He may be old. He may gum his food and the women in his imagination- but Jack is right here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:49 PM (CsVWE)

240 I think the real revelation of the twitter files is that, everything that we knew was going on, but had little evidence to support - is now legitimized.

The American people have been the subject of an Info-op and those who were stupid enough to fall for it will never, ever own up to the fact that they've bet on the wrong horse.
Posted by: Defenestratus
==
Now do the Covid vaccine.

*raised eyebrow*

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:49 PM (p0dyF)

241 Because that is the topic of this post. Not the absurd transparent laughable nonsense about "influence operations" or the pathetic doubts of the lightweight Twitter/tech types, but the fact that such idiocy could have any impact on anything. A dumbed down country dumbed down enough to do anything but laugh about irrelevant wild allegations in relation to real issues is also plenty dumbed down enough to think a border barrier can be "racist!!!!".
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (OTzUX)

Exactly, awesome. It takes really stupid people to have a really stupid country, even in a dictatorship like ours.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 27, 2023 02:49 PM (KSNKu)

242 Maybe I should take the USS off my dinghy?

I seem to be working for foreigners.

Posted by: Captain Bill Kristol at January 27, 2023 02:50 PM (0A5+1)

243
40 Years Ago:

Boss: "Let's go get a drink"
Me: " Um, it's 2:30 and we have a couple more sales calls to make!"
Boss:"Nobody buys on Friday afternoon."

Posted by: Auspex at January 27, 2023 02:50 PM (j4U/Z)

244 I see some folks are doing the Trump wars again and what a surprise!!--not- there are new handles . Catch you on a later thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2023 02:50 PM (D+F6R)

245 https://tinyurl.com/nj5ezs8b

Question for the Horde: Real and a good bra or falsies? That is a lot of lift and separation.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023
***
I don't care which it is. Or they are.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023


***
I meant to say, "I don't care which it is, or they are. I like it/them."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:50 PM (J2vNu)

246 232 Trump's time is past, and he needs to stop sucking all the oxygen out of the room.
==
technically this is talking past the sale. His time being past is what's up for debate. And there's a real world way to determine that -- its called primaries.
Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (bKn/1)

Unless someone else is currently, and obviously, running for POTUS, Trump has every right to say whatever he wants. If the rest of the GOP wants to make themselves heard in this environment, they're welcome to use their positions in government to do something to roll back what Biden is doing. What are they waiting for?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 27, 2023 02:50 PM (/iWhV)

247 its not, its gray and raining and not a nice day at all outside but I wish I knew why you keep posting this, do you figure going outside will make the voter fraud go away?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (0hOvj)


If we are doomed, we are doomed. You don't have to convince everyone that we are doomed. It is so easy to see that it is self evident, right?

So you might as well go enjoy yourself, feed some squirrels of go get some chinese food. Death, defeat and dishonor is eternal, a mildly fun day with cloud filtered daylight is fleeting. Grab what you can.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2023 02:50 PM (xhaym)

248 Bill Kristol is really bad at propaganda. He was an obvious liar to everyone, except the lefty Propaganda organs who so desperately wanted to believe his bullshit.

And Jonah? Jonah is too stupid to have realized how easily manipulated he was by his paymasters. He somehow convinced himself (as did National Review) that they were occupying the traditional center-right position in mainstream politics. Even while they took money from google and Soros and all the rest of the evil empire.

The punishment is, at minimum, banishment from political life, reputation in tatters, universally regarded as contemptible. But Michael Morell and the rest of the IC color revolutionaries...they shouldn't even get the gift of a revolver with one bullet left conveniently on their desk. But, to save the nation the trouble and controversy of treason trials, I suppose that will have to be allowed.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 27, 2023 02:51 PM (fAWQX)

249 Forgive me if this has been covered but why is The Last Refuge (Sundance?) going after DeSantis and the Dave Reboi/Karol M/Dave Rubins of the Twitter world so hard? Not understanding and I thought both groups were friendly

Posted by: jhawk90 at January 27, 2023 02:51 PM (BCEoe)

250 I gotta side with the big dummy tbh...Trump did much good but he burned a lot of bridges and is probably unelectable. Also, I've grown weary of the constant drumbeat that nothing is Trump's fault, he was lied to etc. for 4 years straight. At some point the buck's gotta stop with him.

I'm not against voting for him again but he wants House Plus support he's gonna have to make a serious and tangible case that he's not just going to keep getting fooled again N+1 times while also doing stuff that ensures he'll never have coalition support to make policy initiatives stick.

Posted by: CppThis at January 27, 2023 02:51 PM (PZvjL)

251 Of course, if you have a solution lets flesh it out.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2023 02:51 PM (xhaym)

252 So the conclusion is McCarthy participated in some Hamiltonism when he was a senator.

Posted by: InZona at January 27, 2023 02:51 PM (YSc55)

253 I get often quite Peed off all the crap blamed on Trump and know he didn't do what they say, but their lies pile up on him so many of the believers blame him

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2023 02:51 PM (xhxe8)

254 30...I don't know who to believe on St Ron
Posted by: CN at January 27, 2023 02:15 PM (Zzbjj)

Somwone once said, "you will know them by their deeds."

Posted by: Flyover at January 27, 2023 02:51 PM (Rbu5d)

255 The worst Trump drama was all that systematic insubordination (amounting to a virtual coup) by non-political appointees/career officials and the near-uniform collaboration/indulgence of the GOP in all of it. I mean I can't forgive him for that.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2023 02:52 PM (OTzUX)

256 Kristol had an odd manner always. The guy up above who said he always had a smirk- this s true. And that weird drawn corner of the mouth speaking, like he was always on the verge of sucking spit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:52 PM (CsVWE)

257 I don't think states like PA and AZ are simply lost no matter what. There is a margin of fraud, no matter how wide it might be in some places. If an election is sufficiently one-sided (for some definition of one-sided), the current modes of fraud would not be up to the challenge. The point is that fraud is not the only problem. The Republican Party's determination to stand for nothing (nothing broad segments of the public like anyway) is as much a problem as fraud. The embrace of the Romney-like sentiment that 40-whatever percent of the electorate will always be against it is part of the problem.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 27, 2023 02:52 PM (ppBhU)

258
If we are doomed, we are doomed. You don't have to convince everyone that we are doomed. It is so easy to see that it is self evident, right?

So you might as well go enjoy yourself, feed some squirrels of go get some chinese food. Death, defeat and dishonor is eternal, a mildly fun day with cloud filtered daylight is fleeting. Grab what you can.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2023 02:50 PM (xhaym)


What does Ecclesiastes say about enjoying life while you can?

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 27, 2023 02:52 PM (eGTCV)

259 Guys, promise me we won't still be having these fights in the labor camps.

Don't plan on being there, so count me out.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 27, 2023 02:53 PM (Xrfse)

260 For some reason, I do not see the choice or support for the two men to be mutually exclusive right now. It is not a binary choice yet.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

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For a lot of folks it allows anger, depression, hope, and disappointment to be directed specific human targets. In response to Diogene's statement upthread, the republic is dying though not from its head but the rot that has spread throughout the elites.

The only way to purge that is widespread replacement of those elites and that is simply not possible in an elective republic today. Essentially the 10-20 percent of the population that are ideologues are forcing the 80-90 percent of the population to walk the plank. That is whether you are discussing Ukraine, Social Security, Medicare, the border, crime, minorities, or other issues. Essentially, the left has captured the elites aside from some dissidents, but those dissidents cannot understand that Conservatism TM simply cannot launch a successful counterrevolution to restore what was.

Posted by: whig at January 27, 2023 02:53 PM (eWLl3)

261 Rombley's fat whore niece spent $80,000+ on booze.

Good to know the priorities are straight.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 27, 2023 02:53 PM (i0Kzs)

262 213 Aetius, those are definitely fake.

Like the red hair.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2023 02:53 PM (I7AkS)

263 If it's not Trump, I don't care. I care less though not understanding his Ronna deal and if Trump can't get away from stating the obvious re: vax is a killing field
and I don't see him turning serious (read that as ruthless).

Where is our new hero (bsytg) Jim Jordan? We are to believe he means business. Sure he does.

Posted by: micky at January 27, 2023 02:53 PM (3byMq)

264 I think we should vote for a general and go straight to war.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 27, 2023 02:53 PM (aMJmz)

265 108 Fine, let's throw Trump overboard for Ron DeSantis. I like Ron. He's smart, scandal-free, quick on his feet, handsome and he comes with NONE of the baggage that Trump comes with, let's do it.

And we'll sit back and watch as the same media that turned Trump into everything evil and wrong with the world---and a Russian Asset!-- turns De Santis into Trump 2.0
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (mR6Gs

This! And unless the electoral process is fixed in this country, neither Trump or DeSantis has a chance of winning. I'll go so far to say that the deep state already knows who the next prez is going to be.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 27, 2023 02:54 PM (BdMk6)

266 What does Ecclesiastes say about enjoying life while you can?
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 27, 2023


***
"For everything there is a season. So, you know, head on down to Nordstrom's for the sale on winter clothes."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:54 PM (J2vNu)

267 It's like... he was a conservative Renfield- except in this case Dracula was George Soros.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:54 PM (CsVWE)

268 RNC chair vote happening right now

link: https://tinyurl.com/2p82wnfp

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 27, 2023 02:54 PM (L9Ewk)

269 But the reports of Trump's demise are ridiculous.
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Notice there really isn't much except to say: DATA 2020, which isn't data. It was an op. 2022 was a mid term. And it was funky too.

Mainly, the deep state wore people out with 4 years of bullshit and they don't want to go through it again. They imagine that that reaction was due to Trump. They'll do the same shit to Desantis unless he knuckles under. We are dealing with a Mafia like entity here. Organized crime. they don't cooperate with you, you cooperate with them or else.

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:54 PM (84laa)

270 261 Rombley's fat whore niece spent $80,000+ on booze.

Good to know the priorities are straight.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 27, 2023 02:53 PM (i0Kzs)

Imagine the tab if Rodent weren't a devout Mormon.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 27, 2023 02:54 PM (KSNKu)

271 I was just out doing errands in my town where the parking meter police are viciously good at their jobs. As I was walking out of the UPS Store I saw a meter cop slip a quarter into a meter instead of writing a ticket for an old Chevy. "What miracle is this!", I thought. Then I saw the car had out of state plates with "Bronze Star Recipient" on them.

Nice move, meter cop, and thank you. Made my day.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 27, 2023 02:55 PM (fAWQX)

272 Heard a good one about academia this morning.

"What is the difference between a faculty member and a dog?

"Once you let the dog in, it stops whining!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:55 PM (J2vNu)

273 I guess one doesn't have to be when the fucking press is in your pocket. Along with most other institutions.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 27, 2023 02:47 PM (i0Kzs)
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Yup. That's what's so depressing about it. They have such control over the press and tech that they don't even have to pretend to care anymore, or need to weave a compelling tale of intrigue. They just make shit up and close ranks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2023 02:55 PM (t0OGg)

274 262 213 Aetius, those are definitely fake.

Like the red hair.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2023 02:53 PM (I7AkS)

Oh, I was not even going to get into the flaming red hair.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:55 PM (CsVWE)

275 Kristol had an odd manner always. The guy up above who said he always had a smirk- this s true. And that weird drawn corner of the mouth speaking, like he was always on the verge of sucking spit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:52 PM (CsVWE)


You can say it. That lifestyle is apparently quite popular with the kids today.

Posted by: Wally at January 27, 2023 02:56 PM (FJYfm)

276 Imagine the tab if Rodent weren't a devout Mormon.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 27, 2023 02:54 PM (KSNKu)

It would rival Pelosi's.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 27, 2023 02:56 PM (i0Kzs)

277 38.This was an academic scandal as well, as Harvard, Princeton, Temple, NYU, GWU, and other universities promoted Hamilton 68 as a source...

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Speaking of which: our rural (and very conservative county's) school district -- run by a commie I've met via a family acquaintance -- is attempting to adopt a new social studies curriculum (out of California, natch) for grades K-12.

A commission of parents & others in the community have been reviewing it. Heard one of them on local talk radio talking about the 3rd grade curriculum, where they're teaching children how to cite sources in research papers.

The children are taught repeatedly that the ONLY online sources that can't be trusted as true and factual end in domain names .edu and.gov. You can't make this shit up ....

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 27, 2023 02:56 PM (q01e3)

278
Used to sell a guy a Chrysler who would have me take him to lunch and crush 4 Sliver Bullets and then go back to work.

Posted by: Auspex at January 27, 2023 02:56 PM (j4U/Z)

279 You can say it. That lifestyle is apparently quite popular with the kids today.
Posted by: Wally at January 27, 2023 02:56 PM (FJYfm)

I was going to say the manner of speaking is the same as Holly Hunter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:56 PM (CsVWE)

280 Aetius, those are definitely fake.

Like the red hair.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2023


***
Yeah, well, doesn't matter to me. She and they make the day a little brighter.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 02:57 PM (J2vNu)

281 Lots of valid reasons - corrupt media, corrupt elections, etc. - why people say DeSantis will fare no better than Trump.

But the elephant in the room is that no candidate, winning or losing, can do a single fucking thing to address a single fucking problem in this country from some lame office.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 27, 2023 02:57 PM (oINRc)

282 268 RNC chair vote happening right now

link: https://tinyurl.com/2p82wnfp
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 27, 2023 02:54 PM (L9Ewk)

Dana Point, CA is a beautiful place. Absolutely breathtaking views of the Pacific Ocean. Much nicer than Washington, DC, where the RNC is actually based.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 27, 2023 02:57 PM (/iWhV)

283 Fine, let's throw Trump overboard for Ron DeSantis. I like Ron. He's smart, scandal-free, quick on his feet, handsome and he comes with NONE of the baggage that ----- comes with, let's do it.
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there was a point in time when you could have replaced Ron DeSantis with Marco Rubio in that sentence. But that didn't last long did it.

You got a guy with baggage vs a guy with no baggage its easy to argue the guy with no baggage is better. But there's always baggage. Always. You just don't know what it is yet.

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:57 PM (9TFDA)

284 I will admit I believed the media's influence was waning...

Until the coof op.

Fuck me, do they know how to psychologically destroy people.

It does help that they are in cahoots with most officials and agencies.

Posted by: ... at January 27, 2023 02:57 PM (2jjbN)

285 Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun—all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun.
This is the passage I was thinking of--Eccl. 9:9

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 27, 2023 02:57 PM (eGTCV)

286 But the elephant in the room is that no candidate, winning or losing, can do a single fucking thing to address a single fucking problem in this country from some lame office.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 27, 2023 02:57 PM (oINRc)

Unless it's the Office of the President Elect

Posted by: ... at January 27, 2023 02:57 PM (2jjbN)

287 249 Forgive me if this has been covered but why is The Last Refuge (Sundance?) going after DeSantis and the Dave Reboi/Karol M/Dave Rubins of the Twitter world so hard? Not understanding and I thought both groups were friendly
Posted by: jhawk90
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Who is funding who matters a great deal and Sundance has concluded that DeSantis is bought by his big donors. Simply put, DeSantis does not have the charisma that Trump has and has not put the effort into creating a small money donor network--instead DeSantis is relying on oligarchs. We also know that oligarchs are by and large financing a lot of the online Conservative media.

The antiTrumpers argue that Trump's time is past, he is an old man, he polarizes the electorate, picked crappy subordinates, and by making deals has made the country worse off. Sotto voce, they also do not like tariffs or Trump's attempt to limit foreign military adventures. So far, they have not attacked Trump's weakest point which is the Covid response and vaxx.

Posted by: whig at January 27, 2023 02:58 PM (eWLl3)

288 Oh, and one other thing: it was, is, and will continue to be a sorry state of affairs that in a country with 300 million people and vast sums of money going through the two major parties, the eligible leadership pool has been basically the same crop of dysfunctional people with a whole train full of baggage for about 15 years. They seriously can't come up with a fresh crop of guys?

Posted by: CppThis at January 27, 2023 02:58 PM (PZvjL)

289 I would be very interested in seeing this list. I'd like to see if my old account is on that list. Have they released the reverse-engineered version of the list? If not, why not?

Posted by: Candidus at January 27, 2023 02:58 PM (iM+jE)

290 I mean, Mitch McConnell threw the 2022 midterm elections just to blame it on trump. The GOP is led by people who hate the base and are going to pull 2016's "Jeb has $150M warchest to quiet that base" again.

Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:59 PM (MLrvz)

291 283 This.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2023 02:59 PM (I7AkS)

292 But the elephant in the room is that no candidate, winning or losing, can do a single fucking thing to address a single fucking problem in this country from some lame office.
==
Yep. That's like one insurmountable problem in a list of like half a dozen insurmountable other problems.

"This is fine. We just need better candidates" - is a JOKE people. Its absolutely not fine. It doesn't fucking matter who runs. Even if TRUMP Zilla wins, you already know what will happen. They will never let us govern ourselves. Ever.

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 02:59 PM (J7Pux)

293 I like DeSantis a lot. He does have a friendly legislature to work with, though. Something Trump never had.

Posted by: free tibet at January 27, 2023 03:00 PM (iUs23)

294 I'd say that Whig missed the part of why Dave Reboi/Karol M/Dave Rubins are pushing DeSantis so hard is that Trump's actions before and at the mid-terms were Joe Biden level stupid.

Posted by: Candidus at January 27, 2023 03:00 PM (iM+jE)

295 Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 02:48 PM (ZLI7S)

Trump wildly surpassed my best hopes and the evil that was done in this country in order to get rid of him can't be overstated. But, he's not getting any younger and even he has to finally get exhausted.

I like DeSantis being in Florida as it keeps Abbot in line. I have no illusions of Abbot doing anything remotely bold and leaderly.

I suppose Florida has term limits though and would like to see DeSantis on a wider stage at that time.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 27, 2023 03:00 PM (nC+QA)

296 from the link upthread about babes heading to Home Depot to gits them a MA-A-ANNNNNN!

“I’m headed to Home Depot to ‘look confused’ in the lumber aisle.”

Oh I'm sure there will be no shortage of male customers willing to share their wood with you dearie.

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 03:00 PM (dCxaZ)

297 The children are taught repeatedly that the ONLY online sources that can't CAN be trusted as true and factual end in domain names .edu and.gov.

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Damn auto-cucumber...

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 27, 2023 03:01 PM (q01e3)

298 >>Mainly, the deep state wore people out with 4 years of bullshit and they don't want to go through it again. They imagine that that reaction was due to Trump. They'll do the same shit to Desantis unless he knuckles under. We are dealing with a Mafia like entity here. Organized crime. they don't cooperate with you, you cooperate with them or else.

Unlike many who view Trump's behavior as a huge liability I view it as a necessary strength. It might be tiresome at times, everyone gets tired of PT Barnum, but as you say these are not normal times and we are not up against a normal opponent. We are up against an organized criminal gang.

I have a hard time imaging anyone who could have gone through what Trump did during his 4 years and not only surviving but thriving. Until the pandemic made changed everything and allowed for mass mail in cheating Trump was romping toward reelection.

And every time they come after him it ends up blowing up in their faces. Russia led to the exposure of the deep state corruption. Ukraine led many people to actually look at what was happening in a country the couldn't find on a map. The classified documents has Joey in deep doo doo.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 03:01 PM (ZLI7S)

299 289 I would be very interested in seeing this list. I'd like to see if my old account is on that list. Have they released the reverse-engineered version of the list? If not, why not?


apparently Twitter is notifying those on the list

but if there's somewhere where they just post the list I'll let everyone know. maybe they think this way is better for privacy I don't know.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 27, 2023 03:01 PM (w0NJk)

300 Think of the lengths they went to here to spread lies and stop the discussion of minor matters..

Now scale that up to the lies and corruption to stop Trump ...

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 27, 2023 03:01 PM (NeCi3)

301 Oh, and one other thing: it was, is, and will continue to be a sorry state of affairs that in a country with 300 million people and vast sums of money going through the two major parties, the eligible leadership pool has been basically the same crop of dysfunctional people with a whole train full of baggage for about 15 years. They seriously can't come up with a fresh crop of guys?
Posted by: CppThis at January 27, 2023 02:58 PM (PZvjL)


The purpose of the uniparty is not to maintain power, the purpose is to maintain personal power of the individual politicians. Notice all the main talking heads are also the same dysfunctional talking heads, minus the ones in the slots that actually have to do work.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2023 03:02 PM (xhaym)

302 So far, they have not attacked Trump's weakest point which is the Covid response and vaxx.
Posted by: whig at January 27, 2023 02:58 PM (eWLl3)


Hurts him in the Republican primaries. But I don't believe it hurts him in the general election. Independents probably agreed with him that in the early days, those seemed like logical responses. Who's going to hold that against him - the "Covid Forever" Democrats?

Posted by: Wally at January 27, 2023 03:02 PM (FJYfm)

303 So far, they have not attacked Trump's weakest point which is the Covid response and vaxx.

Posted by: whig at January 27, 2023 02:58 PM (eWLl3)

It's his weakest point for sure, but in all honesty he was cornered.

I'm not sure anyone alive or dead could have navigated that laser-guarded mine field.

Who would have the balls to say "No we're not going to do a vaccine, or it MUST take five to seven years of rigorous trials"? Maybe the greatest leader ever... but maybe the worst. Who would want to make *that* choice?

Posted by: ... at January 27, 2023 03:02 PM (2jjbN)

304 238 Hi, SMH.

It’s safe to come in. We’ve reinforced all the shelving.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2023 03:02 PM (I7AkS)

305 So this isn't election interference or contributions in kind by those "news" and "academic" organizations. Because to an engineer like myself it sure looks like it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 27, 2023 03:02 PM (u4CEu)

306 "This is fine. We just need better candidates" - is a JOKE people. Its absolutely not fine. It doesn't fucking matter who runs. Even if TRUMP Zilla wins, you already know what will happen. They will never let us govern ourselves. Ever.
-
We don't need a President George Washington.

We need General George Washington.

Posted by: Methos at January 27, 2023 03:02 PM (kOpft)

307 And we'll sit back and watch as the same media that turned Trump into everything evil and wrong with the world---and a Russian Asset!-- turns De Santis into Trump 2.0
Posted by: JoeF. at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (mR6Gs)
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Oh no... DeSantis is worse than Trump. Way worse. We could deal with Trump, but this DeSantis guy is literally Hitler.

-MSM

Posted by: 496 at January 27, 2023 03:03 PM (2gwsr)

308 It is my hope that this complicated Twitter expose of the willing collusion of the media and non-profits will red pill more Americans. I'm trying to figure out how to share it with my daughters to see if it can raise questions in their mind about the trustworthiness of the MSM... and pray the crack opens the door to full understanding.

I can dream, right?

Posted by: Iris at January 27, 2023 03:04 PM (foa6+)

309 How about boobjacking!

https://tinyurl.com/nj5ezs8b

Question for the Horde: Real and a good bra or falsies? That is a lot of lift and separation.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023


WILSON!!!

Posted by: Tom Hanks hollering for his TWO best friends to come back at January 27, 2023 03:04 PM (FCbAQ)

310 288 Oh, and one other thing: it was, is, and will continue to be a sorry state of affairs that in a country with 300 million people and vast sums of money going through the two major parties, the eligible leadership pool has been basically the same crop of dysfunctional people with a whole train full of baggage for about 15 years. They seriously can't come up with a fresh crop of guys?
Posted by: CppThis
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Both parties rig and cheat in elections--it is just that the Dems control the urban city hubs and use that in many states to overturn the more limited cheating that the GOP can do. So, the GOP focuses on cheating and rigging primaries. There is a reason that so many GOP officials are resistant to cleaning the voter rolls and ensuring free and fair elections. We have seen that in state after state where the big cheeses in state legislatures and governors block trying to purge voter rolls. Election audits in even red areas indicate a widespread phenomenon of phantom voters, inexplicable zip code changes, and errors in voting reports.

Same thing was true from 1840's to the 1900's until the elites decided to fix election honesty for several generations.

Posted by: whig at January 27, 2023 03:05 PM (eWLl3)

311 Speaking of chores, if any of you single Morons haven't heard, it looks like single women are shopping for husbands at Home Depot. If you're handy, maybe you can get handsy....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 27, 2023 02:39 PM (Angsy)
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I *strongly* suspect that most of Home Depot's male customers are already married. I don't know that for sure, but I would guess it. At the Pro Desk, maybe not - but among the regular customers? Most guys who own own houses probably have families to put in them, and if he doesn't own a house he probably isn't at Home Depot.

Or I'm crazy and there loads of single, marriageable men who do DIY projects that would take them to Home Depot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2023 03:05 PM (t0OGg)

312 Does Ace need to be hit in the face with Gandalf's staff to expel this Lamont guy?

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 27, 2023 03:05 PM (eGTCV)

313 This is quite a pretty lady:

https://tinyurl.com/3sftdmc5

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 03:05 PM (CsVWE)

314 The children are taught repeatedly that the ONLY online sources that can't be trusted as true and factual end in domain names .edu and.gov. You can't make this shit up ....
Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 27, 2023 02:56 PM (q01e3)

Did you mean can be trusted or can't.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 27, 2023 03:05 PM (eoQWY)

315 Most guys who own own houses probably have families to put in them, and if he doesn't own a house he probably isn't at Home Depot.
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Or he's a tradesman, such as an electrician.

Posted by: SMH at January 27, 2023 03:06 PM (ifBkc)

316 Has anyone written a psychopathological profile of Bill Kristol, maybe someone who knew him before Trump? He strikes me a seriously disturbed fellow. Was he like this before Trump?

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 27, 2023 03:06 PM (H8QX8)

317 Or I'm crazy and there loads of single, marriageable men who do DIY projects that would take them to Home Depot.

this is just a WAG, I agree with you that most of HD male customers are married. However married men *have* been known to stray, so...

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 03:06 PM (dCxaZ)

318 Posted by: whig at January 27, 2023 02:58 PM (eWLl3)

Close to a Willowing, but I'm going to say this anyway. Love DeSantis, but I'm in whig scenario #1 for now, and this is why:

We know already that the two biggest funders to DeSantis' PAC are Ken Griffin and Paul Tudor Jones. Their relationship to the conservative movement is problematic, at best, but let's focus on PTJ for now.

For Wall Streeters of a certain vintage, the Robin Hood Foundation is a big money raiser for nonprofits. Started by PTJ, it tries to corporatize how these orgs are run. David Saltzman is the current Executive Director. The former ED, who left the position to run for governor of Maryland, is...

Wes Moore.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 27, 2023 03:06 PM (/iWhV)

319 I bought one of those lifting recliners today, and that is about as relevant as Trump, DeSantis, Dems will win regardless at this point. It is a good thing that some of the FNM commie collusion is getting exposed.

I fear it is too little information, too late in time, to stop the commie train wreck coming at us. But on the bright side I am a really lousy predictor of the future, especially politically.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 27, 2023 03:06 PM (3cGpq)

320 Or I'm crazy and there loads of single, marriageable men who do DIY projects that would take them to Home Depot.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2023 03:05 PM (t0OGg)

You seem to be assuming that women on the hunt for husbands would be wanting to avoid someone else's. The reverse is more likely to be true.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 27, 2023 03:07 PM (eoQWY)

321 this is just a WAG, I agree with you that most of HD male customers are married. However married men *have* been known to stray, so...
Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 03:06 PM (dCxaZ)
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Some husbands know better.

Posted by: SMH at January 27, 2023 03:07 PM (ifBkc)

322
Ron Jeremy for Senate California '24

Posted by: Auspex at January 27, 2023 03:07 PM (j4U/Z)

323 The execrable KJP said in today's press briefing that Joe encourages peaceful protests in Memphis. She then said Joe has repeatedly said violent protests are unacceptable.

Gee whiz, Joe, if violent protests are unacceptable to you, what have you ordered DoJ and the FBI to vigorously do to catch and punish violent protestors? I'm waiting, Joe.

Another day, another bit of hollow talk and lies from Joe and his despicable press secretary.

Posted by: Gref at January 27, 2023 03:07 PM (AMIL/)

324 Trump is not a man of his word.

Posted by: 2A at January 27, 2023 03:07 PM (D25PY)

325 It is amazing how principled conservative Kristol spun a disagreement with Trump into vapid leftist support.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 27, 2023 03:07 PM (mgm0a)

326
“I’m headed to Home Depot to ‘look confused’ in the lumber aisle.”
*
Oh I'm sure there will be no shortage of male customers willing to share their wood with you dearie.
Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023


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At the end of the article, one responder is quoted as warning girls to go early, or "you get the employees." In other words, she's still hoping for that hot single or widowed dad with $10 mil in the bank.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 27, 2023 03:07 PM (J2vNu)

327 It's his weakest point for sure, but in all honesty he was cornered.

I'm not sure anyone alive or dead could have navigated that laser-guarded mine field.

Who would have the balls to say "No we're not going to do a vaccine, or it MUST take five to seven years of rigorous trials"? Maybe the greatest leader ever... but maybe the worst. Who would want to make *that* choice?
Posted by: ...
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The reason Trump is not attacked on it is that oligarchs don't want big Pharma attacked. Especially the media as a lot of their ad funds come from that arena.

The Dems can't do it with Biden simply because Biden and Dems implemented a longer Covid response like lockdowns, etc. and mandated the vaxx. So radio silence from them.

Posted by: whig at January 27, 2023 03:07 PM (eWLl3)

328

What day is it?

Posted by: John Fetterman at January 27, 2023 03:08 PM (vwCZJ)

329 And every time they come after him it ends up blowing up in their faces.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 03:01 PM (ZLI7S)
=======================
Trump's greatest political strength, I believe. Great policies were, of course, his contribution as President but his ability to survive the incredible assaults, and indeed, turn the tables on his attackers, kept him in the game when any other person would have quit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 27, 2023 03:08 PM (fAWQX)

330 Has anyone written a psychopathological profile of Bill Kristol, maybe someone who knew him before Trump? He strikes me a seriously disturbed fellow. Was he like this before Trump?
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 27, 2023 03:06 PM (H8QX

I remember when he brought out his magazine and I read a few and saw him about and he raised my grifter hackles even more than many of those at National Review.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 27, 2023 03:09 PM (eoQWY)

331 The idea that a single woman would voluntarily spend time at a Home Depot is garbage.

Clickbait paid for by Home Depot.

Posted by: Oschisms at January 27, 2023 03:09 PM (0A5+1)

332 Who would have the balls to say "No we're not going to do a vaccine, or it MUST take five to seven years of rigorous trials"? Maybe the greatest leader ever... but maybe the worst. Who would want to make *that* choice?

Posted by: ... at January 27, 2023 03:02 PM (2jjbN)

The problem is, it part of a long pattern of trusting people that none of us would trust to ask the time of day from. The other problem is, he has yet to admit his mistakes or indicate that he has learned anything.

Posted by: espinostifer at January 27, 2023 03:09 PM (3uf3+)

333 At the end of the article, one responder is quoted as warning girls to go early,

most of the contractors get there really early. I doubt many of these bints will have their hair did and they eyelashes glued on by 8 a.m.

Posted by: kallisto, whose pronouns are Bit/Bot/Russian at January 27, 2023 03:09 PM (dCxaZ)

334 As much as our eyes are wide open here, there is no way to break through to the vast numbers of people in this country who have no clue. You might as well be speaking in Martian when trying to explain this to them. It has to break through the mainstream media, like it would have in the old days when media wasn't consolidated and actually competing to get eyeballs on their product.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 27, 2023 03:09 PM (fs1hN)

335 >>So this isn't election interference or contributions in kind by those "news" and "academic" organizations. Because to an engineer like myself it sure looks like it.

Musk agrees with you.

@elonmusk

An American group made false claims about Russian election interference to interfere with American elections

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 03:09 PM (ZLI7S)

336 Remember how much we all liked Eyepatch McCain when he first appeared on the national scene? I member

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at January 27, 2023 03:09 PM (flINI)

337 Is there a word that describes purposely drive an economic depression.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 27, 2023 03:09 PM (aMJmz)

338 Meaningless is a poor translation in that passage from Ecclesiates, IMO. Yes, but life being vanity is not the same as it being meaningless. There are other translations:

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Ecclesiastes%209:9

And no, enjoying things in life everyday and thanking God doesn't autmatically people are sitting on their backside doing nothing for voter integrity or other important issues.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2023 03:09 PM (D+F6R)

339 What day is it?
Posted by: John Fetterman at January 27, 2023 03:08 PM (vwCZJ)
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It doesn't matter, bro. I live a life of Saturdays.

Posted by: Ex-Googler on Funemployment at January 27, 2023 03:10 PM (t0OGg)

340 So, how 'bout those Twitter files, huh?

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 27, 2023 03:10 PM (wNDOJ)

341 Posted by: whig at January 27, 2023 02:58 PM (eWLl3)
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Thank you for the explanation , much appreciated. Can't believe I wandered in at the wrong time with that question though, heh.

Posted by: jhawk90 at January 27, 2023 03:10 PM (BCEoe)

342 The idea that a single woman would voluntarily spend time at a Home Depot is garbage.

Clickbait paid for by Home Depot.
Posted by: Oschisms at January 27, 2023 03:09 PM (0A5+1)


Most of the women in my local Home Depot have the faded skoal can circle on the pocket of their ass.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 27, 2023 03:11 PM (anj39)

343 The funny thing is the Russia crap IS about Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2023 03:11 PM (ZLI7S)

344 NOOD

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 27, 2023 03:12 PM (t0OGg)

345 Nood. Senate Intel.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 27, 2023 03:12 PM (/iWhV)

346 One point I brought up early on during "Russian collusion".

How many ad buys did Chinese aligned individuals do? Israeli? British?

Why don't we know? And how many accounts that our media quote come from people aligned with ANY other country?

Remember when a British newspaper sent paid staff to campaign for Kerry in 04? Why wasn't that "British collusion"?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 27, 2023 03:12 PM (lc5cP)

347 Each of those named should sue the site and all contributors "individually and severally" for a googol of dollars. Or make it a class action for a googolplex of dollars.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 27, 2023 03:13 PM (RK6SY)

348 Nood Biden.

Posted by: Bosk at January 27, 2023 03:13 PM (ZVuYy)

349 Tyler Bowyer
@tylerbowyer

We are now voting on Resolutions. The body has unanimously passed the Resolution opposing RANKED CHOICE VOTING.

The RNC has officially taken the position of opposing RCV and calling on the GOP at every level in every state to oppose schemes to manipulate voters.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 27, 2023 03:14 PM (NpAcC)

350 294 I'd say that Whig missed the part of why Dave Reboi/Karol M/Dave Rubins are pushing DeSantis so hard is that Trump's actions before and at the mid-terms were Joe Biden level stupid.
Posted by: Candidus
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Essentially, they are taking elections as normal rather than a combined effort by GOPe to tank them. For example, Lady Lindsay announcing a national abortion ban attempt, McConnell shoveling funds at Murcow, and son on.

Trump endorsed candidates and supported some with money but GOPe did neither and lost some winnable races (assuming that state's elections were honest). Rubin, et al have not come to term with the impact of AZ's election fraud--it was well over ten points by which no GOP candidate even in a red state could win. The proof in the pudding is the downballot races for things like State Treasurer.

Essentially, elections have ceased to function in this country so blathering about 2024 is simply ridiculous.

Posted by: whig at January 27, 2023 03:14 PM (eWLl3)

351 To be clear:

(ahem)

Russian bots is NOT a conspiracy theory!!

That is every topic we don't like is the mastercraft of Putin and his stooges in the US is NOT a CONSPIRACY THEORY!!

Posted by: The Sensible Left at January 27, 2023 03:14 PM (krQz2)

352 Meaningless is a poor translation in that passage from Ecclesiates, IMO. Yes, but life being vanity is not the same as it being meaningless. There are other translations:

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Ecclesiastes%209:9

And no, enjoying things in life everyday and thanking God doesn't autmatically people are sitting on their backside doing nothing for voter integrity or other important issues.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
==
DRA for the win.

unsteady

it shifts doesn't it, often unpredictably

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 03:14 PM (WY9yX)

353 Clint Watts, former FBI Counterintelligence agent, headed up Hamilton68.

Charles McGonigal, former FBI Counter-Espionage agent, money launderer with Russian oligarch.

Peter Strzok, former FBI Counterintelligence Division agent, hoaxer behind the Russian collusion investigation.

What exactly are the FBI "Counter" divisions against?

Maybe any Division with "Counter" in their title should be dismissed?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 27, 2023 03:14 PM (lf83v)

354 213 How about boobjacking!

https://tinyurl.com/nj5ezs8b

Question for the Horde: Real and a good bra or falsies? That is a lot of lift and separation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2023 02:45 PM (CsVWE)


Not enough data, can't get a feel for the situation. Gonna need another picture, sans sweater. If you put a gun to my head, I'd say "real", but I'm an optimist.

Posted by: a.moron at January 27, 2023 03:16 PM (tu3iY)

355 How much more incredibly blatantly obvious does the fraud have to get before it finally sinks in???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:30 PM (0hOvj)

Maybe in May 2025 when the ballots are still being counted to give the correct 'win'?

Posted by: DaisyB at January 27, 2023 03:16 PM (AbL8c)

356 Essentially, they are taking elections as normal rather than a combined effort by GOPe to tank them. For example, Lady Lindsay announcing a national abortion ban attempt, McConnell shoveling funds at Murcow, and son on.

Trump endorsed candidates and supported some with money but GOPe did neither and lost some winnable races (assuming that state's elections were honest). Rubin, et al have not come to term with the impact of AZ's election fraud--it was well over ten points by which no GOP candidate even in a red state could win. The proof in the pudding is the downballot races for things like State Treasurer.

Essentially, elections have ceased to function in this country so blathering about 2024 is simply ridiculous.
Posted by: whig
==
This is right. I mean Fetterman FFS? but what are you going to do. OZ wasn't a great conservative, but its pennsylvannia. Arlen Specter was a senator there for a long time from both parties. Weird.

Posted by: Meme Dog (is viciously sarcastic) at January 27, 2023 03:17 PM (yRYq1)

357 Harmeet was interviewed the other night and was reciting a laundry list of new tactics needed to get out the vote . She said we have to play the game better than the Democrats and seemed to echo what Dave in Fla determined would be the only way forward to win seats. Hoping she wins.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 27, 2023 03:18 PM (TisjL)

358 Mila Kunis, eh. Cute enough, I suppose, but the only thing I associate with her is how she was always yelling “Michael” in that whiny voice of hers. Total turnoff.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2023 02:31 PM (I7AkS)

Well, she IS Jewish. OY!!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at January 27, 2023 03:19 PM (Zvtjl)

359
Senator Marco Rubio on Thursday sent Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla a letter in response to Project Veritas’ explosive undercover video exposing Pfizer.

Posted by: Maj. Healey


Was it sternly worded?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2023 03:23 PM (n+4am)

360 >its not, its gray and raining and not a nice day at all outside but I wish I knew why you keep posting this, do you figure going outside will make the voter fraud go away?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 27, 2023 02:44 PM (0hOvj)

Lotta people clutch their cope like a woobie.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 27, 2023 03:33 PM (h6aS8)

361 >I mean, Mitch McConnell threw the 2022 midterm elections just to blame it on trump.
Posted by: sockamster, non Rick and Morty viewer at January 27, 2023 02:59 PM (MLrvz)

Don't forget pro-lifers, whom Trump and his toadies also used as a punching bag, instead of the RNC's sandbagging.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 27, 2023 03:42 PM (h6aS8)

362 So "Double Secret Probation" really exists?

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at January 27, 2023 03:45 PM (a/7LW)

363 Here is your Disimformation Liberals read it and weep

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 27, 2023 05:45 PM (wGqjj)

364 Gilbert & Sullivan's The Mikado has a great summary

I've Got a Little List

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWo_3CIcTBQ

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