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Notre Dame Fire Strikes Amidst Wave of Vandalism and Arson at Christian Churches in France
This doesn't mean the Notre Dame fire was arson.
But people have been vandalizing churches, desecrating crucifixes with human excrement, and smashing stained glass. And setting ancient churches on fire. This might not explain the fire -- but it does explain the suspicions about the fire, and I won't join the media in embargoing newsworthy facts that illuminate why some are very suspicious about this fire.While it probably was an accident, it is worth pointing out that it happened during Holy Week–the holiest week of the liturgical year– amid a disturbing wave of anti-Christian attacks on Catholic churches throughout France. In just one week in March, a dozen churches were desecrated in different regions of France in what appeared to be "obvious" cases of anti-Christian vandalism, according to ABC Internacional, a conservative Spanish daily paper. "In Nimes (Gard), the Notre-Dame-des-Enfants church was desecrated in a particularly odious way: strangers painted a cross with human excrement, looted the main altar and the tabernacle and stole the wafers , which were later discovered among piles of waste," the Spanish daily reported. ... On March 17, the church of Saint-Sulpice in Paris was set ablaze shortly after the twelve-o'clock Mass, Evangeliques Info reported. The fire was quickly controlled by firefighters, but resulted in damages that will reportedly cost several hundred million euros.Lots more at the link. The Saint Denis cathedral, in which are interred the bones of Charles Martel, was also vandalized in March. For what it's worth, while my mind is open and I don't have any facts, I lean against the intentional arson theory. The fire seems to me to have been such a perfect storm of bad circumstances that it was unlikely to have been intentional. Consider: The fire was burning (or at least smoldering) for a half an hour before alarms went off, and then it took firefighters an hour to begin putting water on it. Ninety minutes of burning before any firefighters intervened -- could an arsonist have planned on his slow-starting fire to have ninety minutes to get up to speed before firefighters began dousing it? I don't think humans -- especially terrorists -- tend to be that patient and that willing to leave things to chance. I think they want to see that their plan has worked right away -- which is why I'd imagine a terrorist arson case would involve a firebomb that goes off, not some concealed slow-fuse fire that takes its time to become an inferno. And which could be put out by a simple fire extinguisher if it is detected early. Or, having burned the fuel immediately around the small fire, could have self-extinguished without anyone having realized there had been a fire at all. Sometimes people see a catastrophe like this and think human intention must have been responsible. I usually have the opposite sort of reaction: This calamity was so perfect that humans probably couldn't have carried it off, humans with their crude, clumsy, impatient hands. Only random, unfeeling chance is so patient. Random chance can afford to wait, because it gets 100,000 bites at the apple every hour. Note my "analysis," as it is, is pretty uninformed and based on nothing but hunches about probabilities. What bothers me -- and bothers a lot of people -- is the unseemly speed with which western law enforcement eliminates any Politically Incorrect theory from the realm of possibility. That's worrisome, because it's sending the message that the French police (and American police) fundamentally do not want to find any deliberate terrorist actor behind any crime, and thus makes the public suspicious that very obvious investigative trails are being deliberately closed off due to political/media relations considerations. My hunch is that this was, in fact, accidental. Letting sparks rain down to the wood-dust coated roofbeams, something like that. But I do not like the idea that the authorities charged with protecting us say two things almost in the same breath: that they have ruled out the possibility of any "voluntary" cause behind this and also that they have no idea what the cause was. That makes no sense. We already know, as a fact, that police are actively searching for suspects in the deliberate arson of Saint Suplice cathedral, the second-biggest church in Paris. Does it make sense to eliminate arson as a possibility in this latest church fire? Before a single fireman even entered the structure?!! No, it doesn't make sense. And it's not supposed to make sense. It's a politicized claim and it's a step towards a politicized investigation. I've said this about cases of possible terrorism, and I've said this about the US government's lies about the transmission of ebola: We would worry less if it seemed, from time to time, that the officials we've entrusted with public safety worried more.
THE SAINT SULPICE IN PARIS JUST IGNITED WHILE I WAS INSIDE pic.twitter.com/40PHCZ177w
— lil g (@lili_gasparr) March 17, 2019
Investigators have concluded that the fire was the result of arson and are now looking for suspects, Evangeliques Info reported.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: jmel at April 17, 2019 08:42 PM (OeWgo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:42 PM (ptqGC)
*sigh*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:44 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 17, 2019 08:44 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:44 PM (ptqGC)
Where was renowned symbologist Robert Langdon at the time?
Posted by: some albino monk at April 17, 2019 08:45 PM (j4Q4b)
Pull up a few articles about the last few sprees committed by black perps.
Its people like your sister that those people play to.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 17, 2019 08:45 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 17, 2019 08:46 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 17, 2019 08:47 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 17, 2019 08:45 PM (oVJmc)
My sister, just like my husband's siblings and their spawn, is absolutely hopeless. They'll happily guard us in camps until they're of no more use and killed last.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:47 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Neil Cavuto at April 17, 2019 08:47 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2019 08:47 PM (3RKQd)
Posted by: Insomniac
i just added that in
Posted by: ace, just quoting good lines now at April 17, 2019 08:47 PM (PbpT7)
At some point, that's going to happen, regardless of what public officials tell people.
Because people are pissed off.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at April 17, 2019 08:47 PM (uDcBt)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 08:48 PM (UdKB7)
This all remains to be seen, but I can envision a fire started among the timbers using accelerant which took a long time to get out of control.
I can not explain the 1 hour for the firefighters to do anything, but that is irrelevant. However the fire was started, it was in an ideal place to do a lot of damage, and it did.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 17, 2019 08:48 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:48 PM (ptqGC)
Same with the whole "how dare you suggest Muslims were celebrating 9/11 in NYC" when it was widely reported they were celebrating all over the globe and it had been perpetrated by Muslims.
Posted by: Blago at April 17, 2019 08:48 PM (UfkIY)
Unless it was a lightning strike, how does a wooden roof catch fire, unless someone sets it on fire?
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2019 08:48 PM (Y3hKx)
If it was arson or terrorism the MFM will never report it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2019 08:48 PM (0R3dy)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2019 08:48 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 08:48 PM (UdKB7)
Muslims were holding crucifixes?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (QmV8z)
Here's what I'm talking about:
Posted by: IrishEi at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (NtglE)
Posted by: Insomniac
i just added that in
Posted by: ace, just quoting good lines now at April 17, 2019 08:47 PM (PbpT7)
Ah, yes, I'm just getting caught up now.
Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (NWiLs)
well there were workers doing reconstuction work on the roof. I imagine that means power tools, and I imagine that means electricity and sparks.
Posted by: ace, just quoting good lines now at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (PbpT7)
Because white nationalists are setting black churches on fire All Over The United States.
*sigh*
Posted by: Jane D'oh
How many of those churches are actually burned by white people?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (UdKB7)
Someone here posted the tweet in the art thread.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: IrishEi at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (NtglE)
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2019 08:50 PM (pCsgI)
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2019 08:48 PM (Y3hKx)
Rosie O'Donuts: Wood doesn't burn!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2019 08:50 PM (0R3dy)
Unless it was a lightning strike, how does a wooden roof catch fire, unless someone sets it on fire?
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2019 08:48 PM (Y3hKx)
In fairness, a shitload of workmen up on scaffolding, working with, e.g., welding torches, frayed electrical cables, etc. could easily do that. Not to say that they did, but it's entirely plausible.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 08:50 PM (QmV8z)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 17, 2019 08:50 PM (KP5rU)
Example: His last six wives were murdered mysteriously. I hope to be
wife number seven.
Posted by: Anon23 at April 17, 2019 08:51 PM (yJy4c)
Usually the roof is the second thing that catches on fire.
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2019 08:51 PM (pCsgI)
The only thing they were doing anyway, was putting up scaffolding.
The company had NO heat sources, or even electric sources up there, because of the fire danger.
In fact, every move they made was watched by the Church, and Historic Preservationists to ensure no damage was done to this site.
There are reports of TWO loud bangs. The fire apparently started in two locations.
There is video of a someone up near the roof, just before the fire was reporter. There is a flash in that video.
There is also video of someone looking like they are wearing robes, moving across the base of the roof just after the fire started (you can see the fire in the background).
This is GW Bush and 9/11 all over again. They don't WANT the West to vent its righteous Anger.
Posted by: Don Q at April 17, 2019 08:51 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Ever at April 17, 2019 08:51 PM (Brfdf)
So we get to torch George Soros?
Fantastic!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 08:51 PM (QmV8z)
Actually, most of the time.
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 08:51 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick Up a Copy of The Daily Panic at The Outrage Outlet! at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: Blago
And Twatter was replete with pictures of Muslims celebrating, some standing in front of the burning cathedral, the burning of ND.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (Y3hKx)
This is slightly tangential, but history is weird. The Nazis who set the Reichstag fire blamed it on a Dutch Communist.
But the weird thing is, when they were busy creating flash points all over the building to burn it up, the crazy Dutch Communist actually showed up to try to arson it all by himself.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (fuK7c)
I'm not as cautious as you, Ace.
It was arson. Straight-up.
"1) the workers who were refurbishing the roof of Notre-Dame are among the best specialized craftsmen in the world, concerning the restauration of medieval monuments (their title is “Meilleur Ouvrier de France”
.They love their work, and take all the necessary precautions. They have worked in many rooms of the Castle of Versailles, they have restored many churches and cathedrals. For example, they worked during more than 20 years on the marvelous Strasbourg cathedral (I lived in Strasbourg and saw their progress), and there was never a single problem.
2) the workers stopped at 6:00 PM, the fire started at 6:50 PM, near scaffoldings, used to climb there.
3) no electricity was allowed near the roof, because it was made in wood and as a matter of security, every inflamable thing was banned too. So, to have a fire there, someone needed to bring something.
...
1) Restoration work hadn’t started on the roof. The scaffolding were still being put in place. The architect in chief of the “Monuments Historiques” (“Historical Monuments”, the administration that maintains and repairs monuments in France), Philippe Villeneuve, who was responsible for the refurbishing of the spire of Notre-Dame, has stated that : “Work had not started yet, scaffoldings were still being built”.
2) Everything was done to avoid any source of heat near the wood of the roof. No electrical plug, no welding were allowed. So, Philippe Villeneuve says : “The hot spot hypothesis is therefore not the right one”.
3) The head of the company that was building the scaffoldings (Europe Echafaudage) (Europe Scaffolding), Julien Le Bras, was interviewed by a French TV (BFM) : “All I can say for the time being is that at the moment of the fire, absolutely none of the employees of my company was present on site”.
4) He added : “All safety procedures on the Notre-Dame de Paris site have been respected”.
5) One of my friend sent me an email concerning the security on the roof of Notre-Dame. She has a diploma in Art history and studied in the “Ecole du Louvre” (“Louvre School”, were students learn art history and restoration processes) : “I visited the framing of Notre Dame with architects of the “Bâtiments de France” (“Buildings of France”, the highest rank for an architect in France), some years ago. This 13th century timber frame was extremely protected. Each intervention is always accompanied by historians, architects, experts; no work is envisaged without extreme caution; no source of heat, no torch, no electrical apparatus is allowed; a high-performance alarm system is in place; and very strict supervision of all people allowed there. I think we will eventually learn that this was arson.”
6) So, as I said yesterday, with all these security measures, to have a fire on the roof of Notre-Dame, someone had to bring something there, and lit it up"
https://gellerreport.com/2019/04/notre-dame-fire-whatwe-know.html/
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (5tb4C)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (+y/Ru)
Duh. Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU6jL7rpdYIfeature=youtu.be
Posted by: IrishEi at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (NtglE)
Holy cats. Dude looks like he's wearing some sort of white skull cap.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (ptqGC)
Actually, most of the time.
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 08:51 PM (UdKB7)
Close. The simplest explanation is the one to adopt until and unless it cannot account for observations.
Posted by: William of Ockham at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (QmV8z)
IN the shadow of the mushroom cloud, the "authorities" will say that the motive may never be known.
We now appear to have a media run by the same people who make Tootsie Roll Pops.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: TOXIC DASTARDLY DAN at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (odi99)
This doesn't mean the Notre Dame fire was arson.
**Waves hand around**
In best Obe Wan Kenobi voice, " This is not the conspiracy theory you are looking for"
Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2019 08:53 PM (NLny5)
Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 17, 2019 08:53 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 08:50 PM (QmV8z)
No workers. No power cables. No welding.
They were already concerned about fire.
All that was up there, according to reports from the companies involved, was scaffolding.
Posted by: Don Q at April 17, 2019 08:53 PM (NgKpN)
the roof. I imagine that means power tools, and I imagine that means
electricity and sparks.
Posted by: ace, just quoting good lines now at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (PbpT7)
============================
Now, the Geller report might be a bit out there, but if the only "reconstruction" work being done to date was putting up scaffolding, -before- the actual work, then things look a bit dodgy on the the "accident" front.
Posted by: mrp at April 17, 2019 08:53 PM (Pqytn)
Very late, when the fire was mostly out so maybe 6 hours later they had about a dozen hoses on it. Why did it take so long?
And why did all the reports say that the firefighters had saved the artwork, but now it comes out that a priest went into the burning cathedral and saved them
Fucking France - they lie about everything. No truth will ever come out of France about this.
(Just look at the concorde accident. officially, pan am or whoever was to blame but the plane was a death trap and I think even that was a lie. Look into it, the plane was wobling down the runway before hand...)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 17, 2019 08:53 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2019 08:53 PM (Z+IKu)
measures, to have a fire on the roof of Notre-Dame, someone had to bring
something there, and lit it up"
https://gellerreport.com/2019/04/notre-dame-fire-whatwe-know.html/
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2019 08:52 PM (5tb4C)
Wow. Your entire post. Just wow.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:54 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Sponge at April 17, 2019 08:54 PM (Zz0t1)
No that anyone in the totes assimilated ban-lieue sub-culture would know anything about that!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 08:54 PM (f3oO4)
Posted by: Don Q at April 17, 2019 08:51 PM (NgKpN)
~~~~~
That's the video I posted at #30.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 17, 2019 08:54 PM (NtglE)
*sigh*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:44 PM (ptqGC)
---
A guy at work brought up this very thing the day of the Notre Dame fire. He wondered if they were connected.
It's like they get the official talking points texted to them every morning across the land.
Posted by: Frau Doktor Professor All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2019 08:55 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: Ever at April 17, 2019 08:51 PM (Brfdf)
Behold the consequence of trying to deflect blame from them even when they were obviously to blame: namely, no one believes the MSM anymore. Not even the Reds.
Posted by: William of Ockham at April 17, 2019 08:55 PM (QmV8z)
Ok. This 'Get Aunt Becky' shit has gone fucking nuts.
Now they want to charge the KIDS FFS!!
This is class warfare via weaponized law enforcement.
One mom writes a check to the college board and she's a "donor. "
Another writes a check to the board and she's a "felon".
And now it's just TOO DARNED HARD to charge the fucking ivy league ponces so ...LET'S INDICT THE KIDS.
Bloody fucking hell.
More leftover Obama totalitarian horseshit.
And Carolla disappoints me.
Shameful.
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 08:55 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: dantesed at April 17, 2019 08:55 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 17, 2019 08:55 PM (KP5rU)
Savannah, GA has fire boats at the ready, should any fires break out on the historic riverfront. They'd be there in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:55 PM (ptqGC)
No that anyone in the totes assimilated ban-lieue sub-culture would know anything about that!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 08:54 PM (f3oO4)
Heck, Bo and Luke Duke were MASTERS of the bow, arrow and dynamite. And they were just dumb rubes.
Posted by: Sponge at April 17, 2019 08:56 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: ace, just quoting good lines now
Haven't we been assured that there were no workers on site due to Holy Week starting up?
If those folks were up there at the time it started then obviously they could have accidentally got the thing burning.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2019 08:56 PM (Y3hKx)
osted by: ace, just quoting good lines now at April 17, 2019 08:49 PM (PbpT7)
But were they working on Monday? And if they were, why did it take so long for the fire to be detected. I saw zero reports of having to evacuate workers from high on the ceiling. Doesn't mean it didn't happen since the news media wants to report narrative and not news, but it's all suspicious.
Posted by: I have a hunch I'll be back at April 17, 2019 08:56 PM (bWR5k)
Posted by: Phil Hartmark F/K/A Truck Monkey at April 17, 2019 08:56 PM (flINI)
Posted by: Max Power at April 17, 2019 08:56 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Antibiotic Resistant Gonhorrea at April 17, 2019 08:56 PM (pCsgI)
Posted by: Charles Martel at April 17, 2019 08:57 PM (QzkSJ)
Christian Basilica in Paris No-Go Suburbs Heavily Vandalised
The over 800-year-old Basilica of Saint-Denis was heavily vandalised with vandals smashing stained glass windows.
A 41-year-old Pakistani migrant is facing charges for vandalizing the basilica, Breitbart reported on Tuesday.
Paging Charles Martel. Paging Charles Martel
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2019 08:57 PM (0R3dy)
Savannah, GA has fire boats at the ready, should any fires break out on the historic riverfront. They'd be there in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:55 PM (ptqGC)
France. Where they rioted and burned when they tried to make the "you can't be fired from your job" age 26.......
I can't imagine why they didn't start fighting the fire for hours.
Posted by: Sponge at April 17, 2019 08:57 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 17, 2019 08:57 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: William of Ockham
*****
"Shave It Like Ockham"
Posted by: Muldoon at April 17, 2019 08:57 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: chavez the hugo
Let me help with that ear-worm:
Chucky's In Love, by Rickie Lee Jones.
You're welcome.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2019 08:57 PM (Y3hKx)
Purely random chance, like the guy who shoots himself in the back.
Posted by: Anon23 at April 17, 2019 08:57 PM (yJy4c)
Posted by: Spankmeister at April 17, 2019 08:58 PM (dn8lZ)
https://twitter.com/Zander9899/status/
1118159971101945858
Some reasonable commentary in the replies if you click through.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2019 08:58 PM (Dh1wo)
It's almost like Democrats.
Posted by: Gork at April 17, 2019 08:58 PM (VmQ66)
Posted by: freaked
Bistro...you mean Bistro.
Posted by: Boswell at April 17, 2019 08:58 PM (32YRo)
It's been very upsetting and frustrating to say the least to read about these church fires and desecrations.
Posted by: JuJuBee at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (aBR7R)
Posted by: Phil Hartmark F/K/A Truck Monkey at April 17, 2019 08:56 PM (flINI)
I'll go one step further: I guarantee the perp(s) wasn't/weren't named after any Christian Saint.
Posted by: Surfperch at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (tVQUs)
Posted by: I have a hunch I'll be back at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (bWR5k)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Ridiculous Bullshit at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (vcatx)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (Y+V3r)
Carolla on Tucker compares Hollywood college parents to Honey Boo Boo?
Holy shit. When did Mean Girl 'eat-the-rich' attacks become Federal fucking law?
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (lwX7s)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (Y+V3r)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
Old connection.
Prince Poniatowski was a Marshal of France.
Posted by: Le Mikleuse at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Anon23 at April 17, 2019 08:57 PM (yJy4c)
Twice in the back, once in the head.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (hv/hU)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (UdKB7)
2. Numerous desecrations and vandalisms of churches across Europe.
3. Significant time of year, Holy Week.
4. Previous attempt to destroy Notre Dame (see WTC attack pattern).
Call me crazy, but I wouldn't discount a Islamic terrorist attack on a Western Christian landmark.
Posted by: Minuteman at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (kIh6J)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (ptqGC)
They were already concerned about fire.
All that was up there, according to reports from the companies involved, was scaffolding.
Posted by: Don Q at April 17, 2019 08:53 PM (NgKpN)
That doesn't exclude the possibility that, all the rules notwithstanding, someone broke the rules.
Would it be the first time in human history? No.
In fact, breaking the rules accounts for 90% of human history. How did we get the Venona transcripts? A one-time cipher is mathematically unbreakable. But some lazy/drunken Russkis re-used some one-time cipher pads, which was streng verboten.
I'm not saying it wasn't arson, but I'm saying we need to bear in mind the limitless ocean of human stupidity. I give you, e.g, the election of Obama in this context.
Posted by: William of Ockham at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (QmV8z)
*sigh*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:44 PM (ptqGC)
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A guy at work brought up this very thing the day of the Notre Dame fire. He wondered if they were connected.
It's like they get the official talking points texted to them every morning across the land.
Posted by: Frau Doktor Professor All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2019 08:55 PM (kQs4Y)
ONE crazy White guy, set three black churches on Fire.
He actually used his phone to film himself at the sits and afterwards.
He's a nutter, plain and simple. Pyromaniac.
But that will be used as a bludgeon by the Left, and Islamists, to silence anyone on the right.
Posted by: Don Q at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (NgKpN)
Matt Wolking
@MattWolking
So reporters are upset because they will receive an on-the-record briefing by the AG and DAG about the report, instead of having to rely on anonymous, false leaks from Schiff and co about the report?
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (dNzKv)
Typically, this is an amateur arsonists way of 'not getting caught'.
Sort of like that spot in your car where you hide your weed. Because nobody else has a Chevy or anything...
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (pCsgI)
Posted by: JAS at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (KOCKb)
Probability and diligent trending will play out the truth. Care and suspicion never generated any harm. Open eyes, open mind and open calls for air strikes.
Posted by: Fritz at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (LuPts)
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (Y3hKx)
Posted by: Random thought generator at April 17, 2019 09:01 PM (1EwqP)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 17, 2019 08:55 PM (KP5rU)
Yup....in a semi defunct mall in my AO there is one of these "Entertainment" churches where the Belk's and Burdines used to be and a kid's section where a shoe store was.
Their slogan is "No perfect people allowed" and they have a huge banner of a single white woman with her brown kid (son?) just to show how woke they is. No husband around.
Where is Reverend Jim Jones when we need him.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2019 09:01 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2019 09:01 PM (Y+V3r)
https://tinyurl.com/yy3vttd7
Posted by: DXO at April 17, 2019 09:01 PM (nzKWW)
Wow. Your entire post. Just wow.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 08:54 PM (ptqGC)
Jane, I'm catching up, thanks for pointing me to zombie's link.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE, Comrade Citizen, please to move along!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:01 PM (f3oO4)
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That might explain the coconuts.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 17, 2019 09:02 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: mrp at April 17, 2019 09:02 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: JuJuBee at April 17, 2019 08:59 PM (aBR7R)
Not to mention the priest beheaded in his church in Ruen a couple of years ago.
France is lost.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 09:02 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:02 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Sponge
Bo and Luke were quite possibly the original inspiration for the dudes in that classic video game Redneck Rampage.
If they weren't, they should have been.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2019 09:02 PM (Y3hKx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Also, a lot of gay people at the ready. Last time I took the wife and kids down to Savanah, it was pink aluminum shorts, wife beaters and roller skates. It's like Freddy Mercury was clones a thousand times. No place for family anymore. Sad.
Posted by: Boswell at April 17, 2019 09:02 PM (32YRo)
This is one of those situations where I'd like people to cite sources. There is so much shit talk everywhere that it's like I read it on Reddit is authoritative.
I didn't believe it when they ruled out terrorism before the fire was out. I don't believe every somebody said his brother saw something.
I would like to see sources for any claims of knowledge.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 17, 2019 09:03 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2019 09:01 PM (Y+V3r)
Sounds a lot like the old "We may never know the true intentions of the arsonist!" announcement.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:03 PM (f3oO4)
- Govt Experts in 1929, 1987, 2000 and 2008
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:03 PM (9RA7Y)
Posted by: William of Ockham at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (QmV8z)
But to dismiss out of hand, any nefarious intention, is also stupid.
There is a pattern of destroying Holy sites. There have been numerous fires in France itself.
This is very suspicious.
To dismiss the possibility of evil intention, is as stupid as to dismiss the possibility of stupidity.
Posted by: Don Q at April 17, 2019 09:03 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 17, 2019 09:04 PM (BqBId)
took the wife and kids down to Savanah, it was pink aluminum shorts,
wife beaters and roller skates. It's like Freddy Mercury was clones a
thousand times. No place for family anymore. Sad.
Posted by: Boswell at April 17, 2019 09:02 PM (32YRo)
Were you here during Gay Pride week? Because that's not Savannah at all. Lots of gorgeous historic churches, and lovely families filling them up every Sunday. This is a beautiful city and quite family friendly.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 09:04 PM (ptqGC)
Sarkozy is Hungarian, not a notable success.
Posted by: Le Mikleuse de Hongrie at April 17, 2019 09:04 PM (QzkSJ)
It's burning, but there is no flame.
Posted by: Antibiotic Resistant Gonhorrea
Dude just made a fucking natural gas joke.
A natural gas joke.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2019 09:04 PM (Y3hKx)
Oh bullshit.
The thing got rebuilt with new parts like 900 times. It will be rebuilt again. The muzzies burned it. Shocker.
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 09:04 PM (LL1Be)
And "the left" (France) would cover it up. But that is without evidence, for now, unless those on the scene are being silenced, and they come forward.
The other possibility, that real renovation was made easier by a fire ... has some degree of plausibility. The "don't put new wine in old wineskins" thang. And it would make a good fundraiser, to see it burn ... sacrebleu! It worked ... half a billion and counting.
Accident seems less likely to me ... timing, and the trend, and the Muslim workers ... in any case ... rebuild it better and more glorious ... and still Christian .. would be nice.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2019 09:04 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 17, 2019 09:04 PM (BqBId)
15 yard penalty, repeat 2nd down.
Posted by: AOSHQ Ref at April 17, 2019 09:05 PM (hv/hU)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2019 09:05 PM (r/xAU)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 17, 2019 09:05 PM (KP5rU)
Benghazi wasn't terror
Orlando wasn't terror
San Bernardino wasn't terror
A million things have NOT been terror since that most terror-filled day of all, November 4th, 2008. All at the same time we were officially told to be extra vigilant about white army veterans and conservative militias who are the TRUE terror threat we face. We are being gaslit to shit and most of us have thankfully caught on.
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2019 09:05 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Random thought generator at April 17, 2019 09:01 PM (1EwqP)
2 months after they get around to figuring out the Vegas shooting.
Posted by: LASue at April 17, 2019 09:05 PM (XROPS)
Posted by: James Comey at April 17, 2019 09:05 PM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: mrp at April 17, 2019 09:06 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: chavez the hugo
Midnight in the Garden of Gay and Evil
Posted by: Miklos, based on a true story at April 17, 2019 09:06 PM (QzkSJ)
Benghazi wasn't terror
Orlando wasn't terror
San Bernardino wasn't terror
__
9/11 wasn't either, according to our esteemed representative from Minnesota and her pals in the MSM.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:06 PM (9RA7Y)
Posted by: kallisto at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (Y+IGD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2019 09:01 PM (Y+V3r)
Because if it IS arson, they won't tell because the muslhams will burn the entire fucking country down and they'll just pull up their dresses and run away, begging TRUMP to send in the troops.
Sorry France. YOU BUILT THIS.
Posted by: Sponge at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: mrp at April 17, 2019 09:06 PM (Pqytn)
Oh, those rambunctious youths with their shenanigans!
Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: dagny at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (LL1Be)
See, e.g., global warming acolytes.
Bottom line: do not exclude any possibilities out of hand. But also don't adopt any out of hand.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (Hwt6E)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (KP5rU)
Hannity is playing all of the walls closing in and the beginning of the end of Trump clips from the geniuses in the MFM
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (Uf4ia)
Sean Davis @seanmdav
In case you were wondering which stage of grief the D.C. press corps is in regarding Trump's election/Mueller's no collusion finding, they're currently melting down because the attorney general they want to question is holding a press conference where they can ask him questions.
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (BqBId)
Whines like a little girl. What a meathead
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2019 09:08 PM (Y+V3r)
Posted by: kallisto at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (Y+IGD)
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Paris is banning cars anyway, so insurance costs will be moot soon.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:08 PM (9RA7Y)
Benghazi wasn't terror
Orlando wasn't terror
San Bernardino wasn't terror
__
9/11 wasn't either, according to our esteemed representative from Minnesota and her pals in the MSM.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker
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Quit your bitching about something done by someone...///
Posted by: lin-duh at April 17, 2019 09:08 PM (UUBmN)
Posted by: kallisto at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (Y+IGD)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Grew up in Beaufort, SC in the 60's. Savannah was a lovely memory then, Fort Pulaski, the river front, etc...went down two years ago, telling my family about how idyllic it was and what do we see? Every bar and restaurant down on the riverfront has become a gay hang out - a lot like the French Quarter in New Orleans. It was weird and my kids were freaked out. Not good, Jane, not good.
Posted by: Boswell at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (UdKB7)
Shouldn't he be paying some homeless young Twink to take a shit on his chest?
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (pCsgI)
That thing is, what 300 pages?
Talk about a mega-shitload of hammering.
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 17, 2019 09:07 PM (NWiLs)
Searching for ways to turn their lives around.
Posted by: Sponge at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (Dh1wo)
This from the same c-suckers who have somehow made "Charlottesville" into a curse word.
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (pCsgI)
Don't they have surveillance cameras all over that building anyway?
They sure as hell should. If they can catch Jussie Smullett's beaters on camera buying string and red hats...
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (K22Va)
have sex with goats did this, Mecca should become a glass parking lot.
I'm sick of tip-toeing around these cretins and their 7th century
culture.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 09:00 PM (ptqGC)
As fa as I am concerned, Clan Bush sold us out on 9/12/2001. A molten Mecca still cooling on 9/13/2001 would have gone a long way to "Discourager les autres!"
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (f3oO4)
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You spelled Democrats wrong.
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (uEbPt)
If the rebuild turns out to be anything other than trying to match exactly how it was before and instead turns into some establishment multi-culti exercise, I expect even more problems.
Posted by: WOPR at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (pCsgI)
Whines like a little girl. What a meathead
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2019 09:08 PM (Y+V3r)
We're a Constitutional Republic, you fat fuck. And Trump is actually USING it to stomp your fat fuck ass like the bitch you are.
Posted by: Sponge at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (Zz0t1)
lovely memory then, Fort Pulaski, the river front, etc...went down two
years ago, telling my family about how idyllic it was and what do we
see? Every bar and restaurant down on the riverfront has become a gay
hang out - a lot like the French Quarter in New Orleans. It was weird
and my kids were freaked out. Not good, Jane, not good.
Posted by: Boswell at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (32YRo)
We go down there quite a bit, with friends and out of town visitors. Lots of tourists and families. I honestly have never seen what you describe. Seriously. And we live here.
Whatever.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Don Q at April 17, 2019 09:03 PM (NgKpN)
Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not dismissing the possibility. On the contrary, I entertain it as a possibility. I just don't have the evidence to hand to subscribe to it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (Hwt6E)
Posted by: kallisto at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (Y+IGD)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker
Paris has been introducing regulations to end "light pollution".
Paris, City of Light
Posted by: Miklos, changing the business model at April 17, 2019 09:11 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (f3oO4)
Yep and we equally should have shut down every U.S. mosque until further notice, ie never.
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2019 09:11 PM (uEbPt)
That thing is, what 300 pages?
Talk about a mega-shitload of hammering.
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (LL1Be)
Give me a call.
Posted by: Charles Martel at April 17, 2019 09:11 PM (tVQUs)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 17, 2019 09:11 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Fritz at April 17, 2019 09:11 PM (LuPts)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 17, 2019 09:12 PM (nDe2U)
Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 17, 2019 09:12 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (pCsgI)
This joke was even funnier in the original Mime.
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2019 09:12 PM (uEbPt)
Why would it make sense for a wholly anti-Christian group of shitheads - imported into France by the millions - who ALWAYS try to kill people to celebrate their past "victories" of their horseshit "religion," try to destroy a Holy Christian Cathedral?
Posted by: Spankmeister at April 17, 2019 09:12 PM (dn8lZ)
Posted by: WOPR
Tres amusee!
Posted by: Centre Pompidou-Notre Dame at April 17, 2019 09:12 PM (QzkSJ)
When you tell the same lie over and over again, nobody can tell truth from lie, and it becomes most prudent to assume it's a lie.
It's a Schroedinger's Box of Lies.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 17, 2019 09:12 PM (5aX2M)
********
Entertain it? Hell that sucker's been living in my guest room since 1987. He's like part of the family. A friggin' daily affirmation.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 17, 2019 09:12 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 17, 2019 09:12 PM (nDe2U)
Ha ha, yeah. I know what that's like. Wait, you said ass, right?
Posted by: FORMER President Odumbshit at April 17, 2019 09:13 PM (uEbPt)
Whatever.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
The Pirate House is now known as the Butt Pirate House - but whatever...
Posted by: Boswell at April 17, 2019 09:13 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:13 PM (9RA7Y)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2019 09:13 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 17, 2019 09:12 PM (NWiLs)
Men who fuck fainting goats, or something.
Posted by: Sponge at April 17, 2019 09:13 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: garrett
Oui Oui!
Posted by: obligatory urine joke at April 17, 2019 09:13 PM (LL1Be)
-
Shakespeare: infinite monkeys, infinite typewriters
Meathead: one monkey, fingerpaint
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 17, 2019 09:14 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2019 09:13 PM (Dh1wo)
I have no idea, but he's a dead ringer for his brother!
Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 17, 2019 09:14 PM (NWiLs)
1. Jihadi Modus Operandi: usurp, destroy and desecrate monuments,
artifacts of other religions (see Dome of the Rock at Temple Mount,
Hagia Sophia, Tomb of Joseph, Buddhist Statues, the Kaaba (Yes, the
Kaaba).
2. Numerous desecrations and vandalisms of churches across Europe.
3. Significant time of year, Holy Week.
4. Previous attempt to destroy Notre Dame (see WTC attack pattern).
Call me crazy, but I wouldn't discount a Islamic terrorist attack on a Western Christian landmark.
I'm not about to discount muzzie arson. It probably was, but we'll never find out because the Tootsie Pop Media doesn't want us to know what it was. All we'll hear are gauzy half-assed conjectures followed by some gigantic blue-ribbon panel of "experts" that will waste a few years and and several million taxpayer dollars only to come to another half-assed conjecture that will probably be a cover-up anyway.
In fact, the more I think about it, I'm certain it was arson done by a muzzie. Progda is way too eager to shut people down if they even act like they want to suggest it was muzzie arson, like Ace said.
"The first casualty when war comes is truth." Welcome to the Culture Wars.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 17, 2019 09:14 PM (HaL55)
hang out - a lot like the French Quarter in New Orleans. It was weird
and my kids were freaked out. Not good, Jane, not good.
Posted by: Boswell at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (32YRo)
The homos migrated away from New Orleans to San Fran when Aids became a thing in the 80s.
Rents dropped a lot.
Posted by: Miklos de la Nouvelle Orleans at April 17, 2019 09:14 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2019 09:14 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Boswell at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (32YRo)
If ya wanna be freaked out try P-town around cocktail hour on a hot summer night...
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 17, 2019 09:14 PM (QE8X6)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:14 PM (9RA7Y)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at April 17, 2019 09:15 PM (ebZss)
It seems like it would be very difficult for a terrorist to get into the roof. Setting off a bomb during Mass would be much more straightforward.
But I'm curious as to whether any of the workers were named Mohammad.
Last night I found this article following links from Ann Barnhardt's site. It appears that "militant secularism" is a real thing in France, and is certainly responsible for at least some of the church vandalism. The graffiti shown in the photo was not written by a Muslim, but more likely by an SJW Antifa Commie type.
https://www.apostoliccatholic.com/2019/04/
the-woke-generation-poses-danger-to.html
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:15 PM (sdi6R)
One of my favorite Archie-Meathead scenes, the sock and shoe putting on order dispute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFuniFSP2fo
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 17, 2019 09:15 PM (f1Vqw)
9/12/2001. A molten Mecca still cooling on 9/13/2001 would have gone a
long way to "Discourager les autres!"
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:10 PM (f3oO4)
He didn't have to go that far. He should have immediately interned every Saudi national on US soil. Publicly he could say it was to properly interrogate them. Behind the scenes, he should have told the Saudis no one is going anywhere until every bin Laden family member was dead. Every organization the Saudi's funded should have been raided and closed. Every mosque they funded closed and torn down. Muslim immigration stopped. Then an announcement that any other attack like this would result in mushroom clouds in the Middle East.
Posted by: WOPR at April 17, 2019 09:15 PM (J70i0)
And why would they destroy the tallest buildings in NYC? Could it be they are trying to say something?
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:15 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Spankmeister at April 17, 2019 09:16 PM (dn8lZ)
********
Entertain it? Hell that sucker's been living in my guest room since 1987. He's like part of the family. A friggin' daily affirmation.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 17, 2019 09:12 PM (m45I2)
Yes, but I must admit at times I feel like Cassandra.
Posted by: Don Q at April 17, 2019 09:16 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Shep Smith at April 17, 2019 09:16 PM (0Ntuf)
Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at April 17, 2019 09:16 PM (2sCft)
*not a single line of gospel is spoken the entire hour
Lots of ambiguous reference to the lord or the father, never once mentions God or Jesus.
No cross on in or near the "church"
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 17, 2019 09:16 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: Muldoon at April 17, 2019 09:02 PM
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 17, 2019 09:16 PM (Pj/7Q)
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Yeah the muzzies aren't really anti-Christian. They're anti-everyone who isn't muslim. Overt anti-Christian terrorism is definitely the work of Antifa types, IMO.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:16 PM (9RA7Y)
They must know more than they will tell the "peons", that only need to be subservient to the narrative, from their view. Maybe facts will emerge ...
Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2019 09:17 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Miklos , shhhhhh at April 17, 2019 09:17 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: andycanuck
I have no idea, but he's a dead ringer for his brother!
Posted by: Insomniac
********
I'm not surprised that you two chimed in on this.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 17, 2019 09:17 PM (m45I2)
That thing is, what 300 pages?
Talk about a mega-shitload of hammering.
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 09:09 PM (LL1Be)
What could Trump do that Reiner wouldn't attack? He responds to the fake allegations, he's bad. He doesn't respond to the fake allegations; he's guilty.
Posted by: LASue at April 17, 2019 09:18 PM (XROPS)
Lead doesn't spark.
Why would they hire any renovator but the least burny to work on ND?
Is the renovation fire in general really a statistical thing or one of those you're brain just putting 2 and banana together?
Posted by: DaveA at April 17, 2019 09:18 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: dantesed at April 17, 2019 09:18 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: JuJuBee at April 17, 2019 09:18 PM (aBR7R)
Would be interesting to know how many muzzies were in that scaffolding work crew.
Posted by: Sooner at April 17, 2019 09:18 PM (KvLyp)
I lean towards it being arson. I've heard mention that the fire broke out in two spots.
Posted by: WOPR at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM (J70i0)
Problem is it's just a very short clip with no timestamp/metadata or anything.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM (5aX2M)
If I read one more first year philosophy major write haughtily "so I guess God wanted that cathedral to crumble then, huh?"...
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM (dNzKv)
*********
Probably during the prelims of the Quasimodo look-alike contest.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Shemp Smith at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker
Its taken over the tourist areas - down on the river in the more exclusive restaurants and bars - my Dad warned me but I was like Jane - naw, not there. I notice this with friends in New Orleans - I went there and noticed the same thing but they swore they didn't even notice - until I pointed it out and then it was, like, oh, yeah, things change, man...
Posted by: Boswell at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM (32YRo)
The Mrs and I went to the Pirate House just a couple of years ago. The waiter was a little, you know, but nothing overt. We went to the waterfront and didn't see anything too weird. Not nearly as bad as Atlanta or even Macon on a Saturday night.
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:20 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 17, 2019 09:20 PM (V2Yro)
So no, we will never know what cause.
Just like we will never know what happened at the Vegas shooting.
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 17, 2019 09:20 PM (Z3zSO)
Posted by: dantesed at April 17, 2019 09:18 PM (88xKn)
Seconded.
Posted by: AOSHQ Ref at April 17, 2019 09:20 PM (hv/hU)
We have to keep in mind that this is France. They didn't even have toilets until the mid 1950s (saved on construction expenses and water).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:20 PM (ASicf)
Posted by: JuJuBee at April 17, 2019 09:21 PM (aBR7R)
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 09:21 PM (NAs56)
Posted by: kallisto at April 17, 2019 09:21 PM (Y+IGD)
That brings up a whole different aspect. I had car trouble in rural Quebec once; a Montreal cop who was out there to work on his sailboat helped me a lot, and we got to talking about Americans and their lousy French.
I mentioned that a lot of us can stammer around a little, but we didn't want to offend. He laughed and said, that's just those Parisians. The other French don't even like them, they're so snobby. Canadians won't visit there, because the Parisians openly mock Quebecois. They go to Normandy, where people are likely to have a similar dialect and if they don't, they're friendly and appreciate you visiting, so they'll help you out a little.
Since then I've heard this from several sources: all the crap you hear about France is really about Paris. The rest of France doesn't even like Paris.
Posted by: Your Brother-in-Law at April 17, 2019 09:21 PM (8ZmvG)
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM (uEbPt)
And it may very well be so. If that is what it takes for Christians to realize what is important and to renew their faith.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 17, 2019 09:21 PM (dNzKv)
*******
Where is Larry O'Donnell to yell stop the Fucking Hammering, who is fucking hammering
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 17, 2019 09:21 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:22 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: a mime trapped in Schroedinger's box at April 17, 2019 09:22 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM (dNzKv)
True on the second part, but I would argue with the first. It is more than just a building. It is both an example of history that survives through the ages as well as a beautiful piece of art in of itself.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 17, 2019 09:23 PM (hv/hU)
Interesting alternative approach and a more genteel approach to be sure.
Of course, RoP Bush did neither, and IIRC, helped get a bunch of Saudi nationals out of the country on the down low (repaying old debts no doubt) in the following fortnight.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:23 PM (f3oO4)
The renovation exposed a fire that had been smoldering since 1429. They had to go and fuck with it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 17, 2019 09:23 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: Don Q at April 17, 2019 09:16 PM (NgKpN)
No need to beat yourself up, my brother. I'm trying to add some balance here. It could be X, it could be Y. With the evidence to hand - fragmentary at best - it's not clear.
Do Muslims do shit like this? Of course. It could be them.
Do workers do stupid shit contra all rules that has catastrophic consequences? Of course. It could be that too. (Three Mile Island, Chernobyl.)
How many times do construction workers defeat blade guards on power saws, for example?
At this point, we don't know. All the possibilities need to be investigated without prejudice.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:23 PM (Hwt6E)
Posted by: dantesed at April 17, 2019 09:18 PM (88xKn)
Brigitte Bardot.
Now get off my lawn, whippersnapper.
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:23 PM (sdi6R)
A real question: Would the Gov. ever blame muzz if it could be proven? No, in my opinion. Anything but that.
Posted by: nip at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (RXwUQ)
Posted by: Your Brother-in-Law at April 17, 2019 09:21 PM (8ZmvG)
Well Washington DC isn't exactly the best representation of the US.
Posted by: Someguy at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (mX8Vr)
I had not seen this in years, and I guess I don't have to wonder why it is suddenly everywhere.
Typing teacher used to make a joke about the "Dame del Sud," which would be at the other end of town from Norte.
Posted by: Your Brother-in-Law at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (8ZmvG)
Please God make it so.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (RBOtF)
Posted by: FORMER President Odumbshit at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (uEbPt)
Problem is it's just a very short clip with no timestamp/metadata or anything.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM
~~~~~
I posted another video at #30 that is much clearer (but no flash seen).
Posted by: IrishEi at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (NtglE)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (dNzKv)
That looks more like the modis operandi of Antifa than muzzies. Those little commie fucks love to smear shit on everything, it's like they're still in diapers.
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (0Ntuf)
Listen to your friend and visit Normandy. You will love it there and they will welcome you.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 09:25 PM (NAs56)
Posted by: Professor Plum at April 17, 2019 09:25 PM (VB3qu)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 17, 2019 09:14 PM (HaL55)
If it is Islamic arson, they'll try to keep it hidden. I don't think they'll be able to though. Trust level is at an all time low. One hint they are hiding something and some guy is going to release the real report. They are going to have a harder time convincing people it isn't arson.
Posted by: WOPR at April 17, 2019 09:25 PM (J70i0)
Before a single fireman even entered the structure?!!
There was a daily-mail story claiming they had a cool firefighting robot on scene.
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 09:25 PM (vWMNq)
Please God make it so.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (RBOtF)
********
She taking her clothes off?
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 17, 2019 09:25 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: DaveA at April 17, 2019 09:18 PM (FhXTo)
It is a VERY common thing. A church I was a member of, we were fixing the ceiling from some mildew and water damage from a roof leak. The contractors were just about done, and were painting the ceiling. One of them pushed some rags up into the can lighting so the bulbs wouldn't be spray painted, and put a tag on the light switch so no one would turn them on.
The tag fell off, someone who didn't know anything about it flipped on the lights and left, the painted rag caught on fire from the heat and fell out, burning, fell right on top of a brand new organ console and burned it up - $300,000 in damage due to one oily rag and somebody accidentally turning the lights on.
Accidents happen in weird, almost trivial ways. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that this fire started in some weird way like that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 17, 2019 09:26 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at April 17, 2019 09:26 PM (ebZss)
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 09:25 PM (vWMNq)
But not a single fire boat?
Posted by: Surfperch at April 17, 2019 09:26 PM (tVQUs)
Posted by: Your Brother-in-Law at April 17, 2019 09:21 PM (8ZmvG)
Only Parisians surrender and stab allies in the back?
It's possible, I guess ... but that would just make the rest of the country look that much worse.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:26 PM (ASicf)
Given her repeated run-ins with the authorities for anti-Muslim hate speech, she's probably bitten her tongue clean off.
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:27 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Spankmeister at April 17, 2019 09:27 PM (dn8lZ)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 17, 2019 09:27 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2019 09:27 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at April 17, 2019 09:26 PM (ebZss)
Then he ought to get his zombie ass in gear and start hammering!
Battle of Tours 2: Electric Slaughter-Muzzie-loo
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2019 09:28 PM (3gjo/)
But people have been vandalizing churches, desecrating crucifixes with human excrement
That looks more like the modis operandi of Antifa than muzzies.
Those little commie fucks love to smear shit on everything, it's like
they're still in diapers.
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (0Ntuf)
Diapers? Who needs diapers?
Posted by: M.K. Ghandi at April 17, 2019 09:28 PM (vWMNq)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2019 09:28 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 09:29 PM (DCYln)
Please God make it so.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (RBOtF)
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This is the right's version of "Walls Closing in on Trump".
We've been hearing this for 2 years. Any days now, all sorts of shit will start happening and the deep state will be exposed, blah blah blah.
Yeah, not holding my breath.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:29 PM (9RA7Y)
zero ... now old church renovations, not sure how many burn. But Notre Dame ... more important than any .. we just accept "renovation, accidents happen"? no ... that is unlikely.
The two bangs thing ... very simple for a Muslim worker to leave a device, a little propellant would never be found in such a huge fire. But the two bang report was silenced quickly, from what I recall ... or was it just a tweet that was deleted? in any case ... motive and opportunity say arson a strong possibility ... plus the trend of arson or other attacks on Christian churches. Plus "fire" is a preferred method of the jihadists ... they even burn their own migrant sanctuaries cuz wifi is not fast enough.
But sure, Shemp and Neil must censor the elephant ... and squeak like the little mice they are. (even if there is not full evidence the elephant flattened this particular native)
Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2019 09:29 PM (Cus5s)
One would hope that the company doing the work at ND would be more competent.
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:29 PM (UdKB7)
Hey, just a thought. maybe we are not the stupid people in the equation, you are....
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at April 17, 2019 09:30 PM (AJj50)
NOT ON MY WATCH, YOU VILE BASTARDS!
Posted by: Shep! at April 17, 2019 09:30 PM (DCYln)
First workman: "What does this switch do?"
Second workman: "No! Don't turn that on..."
Third workman: "Oh crap..."
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:30 PM (f3oO4)
For one thing, Ace, you may not be able to really comprehend the
enormous space between the cathedral ceiling and the roof. And just
like any "attic" type fire, it's going to burn awhile before it breaks
through the roof or the ceiling. So an incendiary device is quite
possible, and in that type of dry fuel environment, it would not have to
be big.
I read they had some kind of lead barrier in there somewhere that prevented water getting in too.
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2019 09:30 PM (K22Va)
If the ND fire was muslim arson it was a mighty stupid move.
Posted by: davidt at April 17, 2019 09:30 PM (+IOFD)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 17, 2019 09:19 PM (dNzKv)
*********
True, but there are talks about making it more "inclusive" which I find insulting and disgraceful.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2019 09:30 PM (RBOtF)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2019 09:30 PM (l9m7l)
Posted by: kallisto at April 17, 2019 09:31 PM (Y+IGD)
Posted by: kallisto at April 17, 2019 09:31 PM (Y+IGD)
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SHUT UP!!!!!!!
Posted by: Fox News at April 17, 2019 09:31 PM (9RA7Y)
There was a report on the day of the fire that a Finn professor living
near the Cathedral heard two loud bangs. Went to window to investigate',
saw smoke coming out ND roof.
Posted by: kallisto at April 17, 2019 09:31 PM (Y+IGD)
The building was just settling a little.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 17, 2019 09:32 PM (ufFY8)
Accidents happen in weird, almost trivial ways. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that this fire started in some weird way like that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 17, 2019 09:26 PM (V2Yro)
Great point, Tom. I still remember a short story from the 50s about a plane crash that happened due to a series of trivial events that by themselves would have been harmless, but when combined, led to disaster.
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:33 PM (sdi6R)
Please God make it so.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (RBOtF)
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Contra JS, this could've been done in 2018.
Posted by: MAGA at April 17, 2019 09:33 PM (I5LRE)
If the ND fire was muslim arson it was a mighty stupid move.
Posted by: davidt at April 17, 2019 09:30 PM (+IOFD)
If it was the Frogs won't do a damn thing except continue to surrender to the Muzzie hordes
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2019 09:33 PM (Dzbhv)
Please God make it so.
She also said multiple indictments are on the way.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2019 09:33 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Small Deval Obama stole my catch phrase at April 17, 2019 09:33 PM (5nv0U)
Posted by: Sooner at April 17, 2019 09:34 PM (KvLyp)
I think the roof was lead ... 28 tons of it, or something.
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 09:34 PM (vWMNq)
Posted by: Lapping press at April 17, 2019 09:34 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:33 PM (sdi6R)
Da.
Posted by: the Kursk at April 17, 2019 09:34 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 17, 2019 09:32 PM (ufFY
You know how those 1500 year old buildings are still breaking in the ground.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 17, 2019 09:34 PM (hv/hU)
Intuition tells me only two types of people would have intentionally set it on fire: Muslims or Leftist atheists.
I personally lean towards the goat bangers. The black ones out of Africa are the really destructive ones.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 17, 2019 09:34 PM (l5Hsl)
Posted by: Small Deval Obama stole my catch phrase at April 17, 2019 09:34 PM (5nv0U)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:29 PM (9RA7Y)
**********
I know, I know, but I am thinking that they were waiting for the Mueller report to be done and now Trump can declassify and there are sources.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (RBOtF)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:29 PM (UdKB7)
No matter how hard you plan and try to think of every contingency, there will always be someone on the crew trying to build your project more stupid than you would think can possibly exist. I've been doing this since 1980, it is always the same. It is not possible to idiot proof a job site.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (odjO3)
I read they had some kind of lead barrier in there somewhere that prevented water getting in too.
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2019 09:30 PM (K22Va)
The roof's shingles were made of lead, over the wooden support structure.
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Burger Chef at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:29 PM (UdKB7)
One would hope - quite probably in vain - that the company doing the work at ND would be more competent.
Bonus question: how often do surgeons leave sponges, etc. in patients? How many years training do they have? What incentives do they have NOT to do this?
Now consider a bunch of (maybe) high school graduates, who aren't directly, personally responsible for screw-ups.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (Hwt6E)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (hv/hU)
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This is a real difference between Islam and real people. We view the lives of people as more important than buildings and Islam values their hate monument buildings and devalue human life.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (NLny5)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:29 PM (UdKB7)
Bin Laden Construction has a very good reputation.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:36 PM (ASicf)
Good enough, ok?
Posted by: Lapping press at April 17, 2019 09:34 PM (sy5kK)
The smoldering remains of Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed on the roof were pure coincidence.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2019 09:36 PM (Dzbhv)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 17, 2019 09:36 PM (+fPHo)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (odjO3)
This.
It is not possible to idiot proof anything, because idiots are so ingenious. This is true at all levels. I've seen graduate students do things that made me wonder how they'd managed to live this long.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:38 PM (Hwt6E)
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (sdi6R)
So the EPA is going to declare Notre Dame a Superfund site, now. They're really fvcked!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:38 PM (ASicf)
Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 17, 2019 09:38 PM (cCxiu)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2019 09:39 PM (yQpMk)
There were plans to fix the ship but it was considered too expensive and the damage to the hull too extensive to make it worth the money and labor. After the superstructure was removed, the hull was towed to Port Newark and scrapped.
Although theories of sabotage proliferated, the congressional investigation concluded that the restoration effort was a clusterfuck of incompetence, lack of coordination, and of course corruption.
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2019 09:39 PM (0Ntuf)
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 09:39 PM (QrTqV)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:29 PM (9RA7Y)
**********
I know, I know, but I am thinking that they were waiting for the Mueller report to be done and now Trump can declassify and there are sources.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (RBOtF)
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Good point.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:39 PM (9RA7Y)
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2019 09:39 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2019 09:35 PM (NLny5)
Even worse, it was in the AoS comments, so I know it's true!
/s
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:40 PM (f3oO4)
Posted by: FORMER President Odumbshit at April 17, 2019 09:24 PM (uEbPt)
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I used to live half a block from a Catholic church as a kid and the bells would drive me nuts. But nothing is worse than the shrieks of Islam from the minarets. Awful.
Another thing about that church was that they would dump incomplete, mistaken statuary in the woods. So it was the spookiest ever place to hike, because it was full of headless saints and angels with broken wings, etc.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 17, 2019 09:40 PM (5aX2M)
Fortunately they have no authority in France. But the French equivalent is, no doubt, worse.
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 09:40 PM (vWMNq)
I see you do not have a name, so you must be hear just to dance.Where I come from, asshole, there are no "first year philosophy majors." You're not allowed to declare a philosophy major until you are an upper classman. Also, there are no "Philosophy 101" courses. Even the intro surveys are 200 level. So you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
And, then. Of all the shit you could possibly dredge, in your glorious Faith, what subject does every priest have to take as his major, in your bubble divinity schools? Shall I tell you?
What a jackoff.
Posted by: Your Brother-in-Law at April 17, 2019 09:40 PM (8ZmvG)
Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 17, 2019 09:38 PM (cCxiu)
The muzzies are fireproofed. That's the advantage of praying to rocks.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:40 PM (ASicf)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:29 PM (UdKB7)
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The company is most likely owned by the brother in law of a French minister or some such. Competency is not part of the criteria when contracts are awarded.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (9RA7Y)
Posted by: davidt at April 17, 2019 09:30 PM (+IOFD)
I say again: the fact that a move was incredibly stupid does not mean that someone wouldn't engage in it.
There are times I think that the chimps in the primate enclosure are grateful to be insulated from us.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (Hwt6E)
If the ND fire was muslim arson it was a mighty stupid move.
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Something like this - ASSUMING IT'S ARSON - is a timing thing. You don't want to spring it too early (though in a country the size of France, someone's bound to). If you do, you'll get a backlash. You want to spring it when your own side has just reached the critical mass of support when you know that you can do whatever you want, and the other side will just sit quietly and take it.
It is, in effect, saying, "You're cowed and won't fight back, and we both know it."
It's a thug thing. It's the sort of technique that a thuggish culture uses.
However...
Western Civilization is willing to take a few slights now and again - turn the other cheek - in order to live and let live. And this can lead to some catastrophic mistakes when some thug misjudges the other side as being more supine than they actually are.
Posted by: junior at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (Fp6vo)
http://bit.ly/2IFr99m
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (5AVMW)
Agreed.You can greatly reduce the risks though.
Anyway we are supposed to believe that this building survived 900 years of construction workers and we just now got one dumb enough to almost burn the place completely up? What a coincidence.
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (UdKB7)
That's a good thing.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 17, 2019 09:42 PM (dYdbl)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:40 PM (ASicf)
I don't have my glasses on. Does this say "praying to cocks?"
Posted by: Sponge at April 17, 2019 09:42 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 17, 2019 08:53 PM (NWiLs)
all that fracking.
Posted by: Lapping press at April 17, 2019 09:42 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 09:40 PM (vWMNq)
If the FBI can be Mirandizing foreigners in foreign lands then the EPA can certainly declare Superfund sites anywhere it damn pleases!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:43 PM (ASicf)
It makes me want lead shingles for my house! I've had problems with metal, wood, and asphalt. With lead, I wouldn't have to worry for 800 years.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 09:43 PM (CE5C/)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 09:43 PM (9RA7Y)
Posted by: Toad-O at April 17, 2019 09:43 PM (cct0t)
Wow, fuck you, Hannity.
I wondered why my husband was yelling at the TV.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 17, 2019 09:43 PM (dUJdY)
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I heard it on the int'net
No not on the TV set
I heard it on the int'net
And I'm just about to get set
Honey honey
Posted by: CCR at April 17, 2019 09:44 PM (+y/Ru)
And, then. Of all the shit you could possibly dredge, in your glorious Faith, what subject does every priest have to take as his major, in your bubble divinity schools? Shall I tell you?
What a jackoff.
Posted by: Your Brother-in-Law at April 17, 2019 09:40 PM (8ZmvG)
I've literally taken a PHL 100 course before. Why're you acting like a pretentious know-it-all? Well I think we can all guess.
Posted by: Someguy at April 17, 2019 09:44 PM (mX8Vr)
Posted by: Mack the jack at April 17, 2019 09:44 PM (qnfY+)
Wow, fuck you, Hannity.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (5AVMW)
So glad I shot the TV and then called DirecTV and told them to get effed!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:44 PM (f3oO4)
Posted by: Mack the jack at April 17, 2019 09:45 PM (qnfY+)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (UdKB7)
The Law of Averages always wins in the end. /s
Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2019 09:45 PM (NLny5)
*******
Workplace Violence errr Fire
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 17, 2019 09:45 PM (BqBId)
Even worse, Tucker had on fucking Ben Shapiro. Rove looks kissed that Hannity is predicting Obama DOJ/FBI are indicted. Rove and his allies pushed that fraud, too
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 17, 2019 09:45 PM (dYdbl)
As Andrew McCarthy speculates (almost certainly correct if you give the SC the benefit of the doubt) Team Mueller knew there was no collusion by the fall of 2017.
Posted by: MAGA at April 17, 2019 09:46 PM (I5LRE)
Wow, fuck you, Hannity.
As long as Sean keeps cutting off Rove, then ok.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2019 09:46 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2019 09:46 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Basil Fawlty at April 17, 2019 09:46 PM (oVJmc)
one would think, chopping the heads off innocent Christians, and broadcasting it nationally ... would also be incredible stupid ... yet they persist.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2019 09:46 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 17, 2019 09:46 PM (nDe2U)
I have, too, but it was mostly logic. So, he may have a point that there are none these days.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 09:47 PM (Z1eux)
Posted by: Gonzotx at April 17, 2019 09:47 PM (eQh3B)
Heavy timber is a lot more resistant to fire than most people realize (to the point that most people don't even know how to start a campfire). Unless their is a lot of 'kindling' or accelerant heavy timber just doesn't go up because of a hot spot.
Bing up heavy timber fire resistance.
It's almost a science.
...Unless the 'dry fuel' is a few hundred years worth of dead undergrowth.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2019 09:47 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (UdKB7)
Chris Davis just got a hit. (Not dumping on him, I have enormous sympathy for him.)
Beware the fallacy of the linear extrapolation.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:47 PM (Hwt6E)
Posted by: Gonzotx at April 17, 2019 09:47 PM (eQh3B)
@316:
Even worse, Tucker had on fucking Ben Shapiro.
As long as Tucker was top, I'm ok with that.
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 09:47 PM (vWMNq)
Posted by: MAGA at April 17, 2019 09:46 PM (I5LRE)
*****
you mean the same Andy McCarthy who Robert Mueller was straight as an arrow?? that Peckerhead ??
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 17, 2019 09:48 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: Vietnamese Motorcycle Test Guy at April 17, 2019 09:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Bro Fo at April 17, 2019 09:48 PM (9gHOW)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 17, 2019 08:46 PM (0O7c5)
Remember, sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2019 09:48 PM (TfwlC)
No, it's jagoff. Saying jagoff is much more satisfying and is way under used, imho.
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2019 09:48 PM (K22Va)
I have, too, but it was mostly logic. So, he may have a point that there are none these days.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 09:47 PM (Z1eux)
The class still exists at my university. Quelle surprise, the teacher was a left-wing atheist know-it-all. Humanities hasn't ended up with its current reputation by accident.
Posted by: Someguy at April 17, 2019 09:48 PM (mX8Vr)
one would think, chopping the heads off innocent Christians, and broadcasting it nationally ... would also be incredible stupid ... yet they persist.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2019 09:46 PM (Cus5s)
Bombing Pearl Harbor ... not a good idea.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:48 PM (Hwt6E)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 17, 2019 09:49 PM (5aX2M)
Posted by: Dwight K. Shrute at April 17, 2019 09:49 PM (NMAzL)
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In Hitchcock's movie Saboteur, the Nazi bad guy looks at the Normandie and smiles.
Posted by: CCR at April 17, 2019 09:49 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 17, 2019 09:49 PM (hv/hU)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 17, 2019 09:42 PM (dYdbl)
That's the thing. It doesn't even matter what the truth is about the fire. If the people no longer trust the government and media to tell the truth, all bets are off. Governments have fallen for less.
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: MAGA at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (I5LRE)
Don't Mention the War!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdr1OYo_60I
Henning Wehn. Germany's comedy ambassador.
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (vWMNq)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: obligatory urine joke at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: RBG at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (Z1eux)
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 09:47 PM (Z1eux)
There are tons. Just search it and a bunch of colleges show up.
It's only friggin philosophy. It's not as if it's a real course of study. These days philosophy is where people who can't do actual science go.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (ASicf)
Posted by: Smokey LeBear at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (+IOFD)
The Murdoch cucklings probably will get kissed that Hannity is cutting off their GOPe Step-and Fetchit. No doubt we'll see more of these cucklings pukes as Rupert's bastards take the helm.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 17, 2019 09:51 PM (dYdbl)
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at April 17, 2019 09:51 PM (dYe5S)
Posted by: MAGA at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (I5LRE)
Hmmm. AtC wasn't out spder hunting, was she?
Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2019 09:52 PM (Ade6D)
Posted by: CCR at April 17, 2019 09:49 PM (+y/Ru)
That movie was totally retarded. I was offended that it was even made.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:52 PM (ASicf)
It's France.
How much uglier can it get?
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 09:52 PM (LL1Be)
Wow, fuck you, Hannity.
I wondered why my husband was yelling at the TV.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 17, 2019 09:43 PM (dUJdY)
*********
Rove basically said that Dems will continue to push the collusion/obstruction narrative (which is true)
And then Hannity told Rove to be prepared for the Avalanche of what is coming. Hannity was giddy, Rove not so much.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2019 09:52 PM (RBOtF)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (UdKB7)
Well, here I am with an irreplaceable 900 year old building full of unbelievably beautiful artifacts and religious significance that needs some restoration. So, I just run down to the local Home Depot and pick up a truckload of bearded guys that don't speak my language and ask them to work on my building project.
The thought of hiring restoration specialists never crossed my effing mind, yeah right!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:52 PM (f3oO4)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 17, 2019 09:52 PM (5aX2M)
Posted by: Smokey LeBear at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (+IOFD)
L'Otters are not afraid.
Posted by: DR.WTF at April 17, 2019 09:53 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 17, 2019 09:48 PM (BqBId)
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The very same. He's pretty much given them every benefit of the doubt but now can't square the circle. It was a corrupt investigation from the get go.
Posted by: MAGA at April 17, 2019 09:54 PM (I5LRE)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2019 08:57 PM (0R3dy)
He is buried at St. Denis, where the Muzz broke the windows.
Posted by: clutch at April 17, 2019 09:54 PM (kiSdp)
Posted by: Quasimodo at April 17, 2019 09:54 PM (LuPts)
Glenn Beck was taking a "self-ordered institutionalization" day.
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 09:54 PM (LL1Be)
real course of study. These days philosophy is where people who can't
do
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (ASicf)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:55 PM (f3oO4)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2019 09:48 PM (TfwlC)
This.
Back in the day, I was approached by the head of department about my interest in taking a Libyan grad student, paid for by the Libyan government. All he had to do was work with tritium. (We worked with some radioisotopes already.)
"Tritium? Why tritium? In what context?"
"Doesn't matter. It just has to involve tritium."
"You DO know that tritium is used to detonate (IIRC) hydrogen bombs, right?"
The guy literally turned white, as the blood drained form his face.
"Uh ...uh ... yes, I knew that, of course," he said unconvincingly, "I'll tell them, 'No.'"
"Good idea. You might also contact the counterintelligence services, in case some other department head doesn't have your perspicuity."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:55 PM (Hwt6E)
Posted by: Smokey LeBear at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (+IOFD)
I knew I shouldn't have come here after smoking a bowl, lol.
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2019 09:55 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at April 17, 2019 09:51 PM (dYe5S)
Actually, they usually try to ignore mosques burning down because they know it's going to be found out to be a "work accident" - muzzie-style work, that is - and don't want to end up advertising how the mosque was used as a logistical base and arms store.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2019 09:55 PM (ASicf)
Posted by: MAGA at April 17, 2019 09:50 PM (I5LRE)
Actually, it was premature detonation.
Posted by: Achmed the Dead Terrorist at April 17, 2019 09:55 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:55 PM (UdKB7)
I just think that anyone French KNOWS the importance of not screwing up on that roof. The weight of history is incredible there.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 09:55 PM (DCYln)
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 09:56 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 17, 2019 09:56 PM (5aX2M)
No. Tritium is the explosive.
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 09:56 PM (vWMNq)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 17, 2019 09:56 PM (hv/hU)
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at April 17, 2019 09:51 PM (dYe5S)
Sadly, this is true.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:57 PM (Hwt6E)
I knew I shouldn't have come here after smoking a bowl, lol.
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2019 09:55 PM (K22Va)
Oh, that's interesting.... I'm here post work, post dinner, pre bowl... LOL!!!!!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 17, 2019 09:57 PM (5AVMW)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2019 09:55 PM (UdKB7)
I'm still sick about it, whatever the cause was.
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:57 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: MAGA at April 17, 2019 09:46 PM (I5LRE)
Mueller absorbed Team FBI-Doj,
They knew before the election.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2019 09:57 PM (1g7ch)
of not screwing up on that roof. The weight of history is incredible
there.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 09:55 PM (DCYln)
Well, to be fair, it is a lead roof!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 09:58 PM (f3oO4)
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:58 PM (sdi6R)
Then we indict Aunt Becky's daughter for Aggravated Being White, While Rich and Famous.
Murica. Fuck yeah.
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 09:58 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: DALLAS DA at April 17, 2019 09:59 PM (H5knJ)
I worked for a Software Development company that dealt with Security, cool shit.
We were running out of money and suddenly a new angel investor appeared. Chinese. Said all the right things but wanted source code.
Turned out she was the Daughter of a Politbureau member, and married to a ChiComm General.
Needless to say, it was full stop.
Posted by: Achmed the Dead Terrorist at April 17, 2019 09:59 PM (NgKpN)
I'd type a few lines of "If I Had a Hammer", but somebody else already did.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at April 17, 2019 09:59 PM (ebZss)
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 09:56 PM (vWMNq)
OK. I don't remember. I had nuclear chemistry back when dinosaurs roamed the earth. I did know tritium was involved in hydrogen bombs, however, and did my little bit to keep Libya from moving in that direction.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 09:59 PM (Hwt6E)
I'm still sick about it, whatever the cause was.
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:57 PM (sdi6R)
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All the modern architecture is offensive. Every time one of the old jewels is lost, it's sad.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 17, 2019 09:59 PM (5aX2M)
Speaking of the hydrogen clan, you know who else had an interest in deuterium?
Posted by: Bob from NSA at April 17, 2019 10:00 PM (uL22A)
Aw crap. Should gone with "Smeauquis LeBear."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 17, 2019 09:56 PM (5aX2M)
Better late than nevair, m'sieur!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 17, 2019 10:00 PM (f3oO4)
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 17, 2019 10:01 PM (5AVMW)
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 09:58 PM (sdi6R)
a friend that is not at all religious was the first one to text me and tell me that ND was burning.
while he isn't religious, he appreciates history and Western civilization. he was quite sad about it all.
you are not alone.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2019 10:01 PM (sy5kK)
I guess I don't care now. I was sick about it a couple of days ago but now realize it's their own damn fault so f' em.
I do. Same with ripping down bronze sculptures everywhere. There is no talent left in this world that can replicate that stuff and I don't see it anytime soon.
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2019 10:02 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2019 10:02 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Bob from NSA at April 17, 2019 10:00 PM (uL22A)
Of course.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 10:02 PM (Hwt6E)
I grew up in "Canada's atomic town". Spent a summer working in decontamination (radioactive janitor).
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 10:02 PM (vWMNq)
Yeah. Slightly fewer will be charged with burning down a French landmark.
Posted by: mikeyG - Nationalist White at April 17, 2019 10:02 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: Burger Chef at April 17, 2019 10:03 PM (RuIsu)
Fire it up friend. I was just kiddin!
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2019 10:03 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2019 10:02 PM (yQpMk);
That was my dim recollection, actually. It wasn't the primary fuel, but rather, in essence an accelerant.
But I really don't remember at this remove.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 17, 2019 10:03 PM (Hwt6E)
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 17, 2019 09:48 PM (BqBId)
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The same Andy McCarthy who said Comey was an upstanding totes straight shooting American hero.
He writes for National Review.
'nuff said
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 17, 2019 10:03 PM (9RA7Y)
Naw, that takes too much work to figure out the joke. It flows very nicely the way it is.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2019 10:03 PM (C78No)
no, Corrupt BEFORE the investigation.
There was the corrupt fabricating of evidence, and sending (connected) Russians into Trump's campaign, all planned contingency operations by DeepState. The "investigation" was the later stage of the PsyOp by our own government ... not just the DNC ... the FBI arm of the DNC/DeepState.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2019 10:05 PM (Cus5s)
... about the actual public safety than about the Muslims' sensibilities.
By the way, have you EVER heard any Muslims express concern over the sensibilities of non-Muslims? NO you have NOT, because non-Muslims' concerns are of no interest at all to them, or to any observant Muslim.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 17, 2019 10:05 PM (WrJRi)
Tritium is the hydrogen turbocharger in hydrogen bombs.
It's the sine qua non ... not "turbocharger". The cross section for DD is about 3 orders of magnitude less than DT. Without the T, there is no H-bomb.
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 10:05 PM (vWMNq)
http://tinyurl.com/y26cs8z7
It's interesting how meticulous they are - no welding, no electrical, and the level of craftsmanship and supervision - very thorough.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2019 10:06 PM (3XdZI)
posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2019 09:41 PM (yQpMk)
Not too long ago a maintenance worker in a factory in the Midwest was very aware of the risks of repairing a machine containing a huge fan without locking out the electrical system. He is now hamburger. I am in no way suggesting the fire was a construction accident. All I'm saying is do not discount the ability of people to be careless.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 17, 2019 10:07 PM (odjO3)
It might be described as "an accelerant" because the detonator is an ordinary nuke. But the primary fuel in a "thermo-nuclear bomb" is DT.
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 10:07 PM (vWMNq)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 17, 2019 09:14 PM (QE8X6)
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If you're talking Provincetown Mass - wow. We took a day trip there last August when we were out east and it got real interesting real quick when the sun started dropping. Personally I thought the "just the tip" t-shirts were hilarious.
Posted by: jhawk90 at April 17, 2019 10:07 PM (nNY+7)
For a deliverable H-Bomb. Ivy Mike, our first fusion explosion, was straight deuterium.
Of course it was also the size of power plant so not exactly deliverable.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2019 10:10 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 17, 2019 10:07 PM (odjO3)
As I understand it there were no construction workers on the job.
Check out Pamela's article.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2019 10:11 PM (3XdZI)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2019 10:11 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 10:11 PM (vWMNq)
For a deliverable H-Bomb. Ivy Mike, our first fusion explosion, was straight deuterium.
Ok. I buy that. Tritium sources are not simple. (Candu reactors are great ones because they are full of heavy water).
Posted by: Off the reservation at April 17, 2019 10:13 PM (vWMNq)
If the government pins it on the construction workers, will they willingly take the fall if they know they did nothing wrong?
If a worker knows he fucked up, will he be prosecuted if he admits it?
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 10:14 PM (sdi6R)
Of course it was also the size of power plant so not exactly deliverable.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
In the weapons design, they used both lithium deuteride (a stable solid) and heavy water made with Tritium in "cups". Also sometimes had bottles of Tritium gas.
Tritium has a half life of 12.3 years, so the bombs periodically had to be removed, serviced and tritium (in one or another form) had to be replaced.
Every H-bomb
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at April 17, 2019 10:15 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at April 17, 2019 10:15 PM (EMi53)
Nope, Mueller took over leadership of Team FBI-DOJ, and all the bad actors were already there. Mueller was their beard.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 17, 2019 10:15 PM (WrJRi)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at April 17, 2019 10:15 PM (9AcAx)
As I understand it there were no construction workers on the job.
Check out Pamela's article.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2019 10:11 PM (3XdZI)
Yeah, but how long before the fire started did they leave? I've seen all kinds of claims from they just finished for the day to there hadn't been anyone there since the previous Thursday. I don't know what is correct.
An ember can smolder for hours before flaring up.
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 10:19 PM (sdi6R)
One hell of a coincidence.
Posted by: Voter theater. at April 17, 2019 10:26 PM (uoZbr)
Every H-bomb
I'm old enough to remember when the Savannah River plant, our only source of tritium, was down for years. They had to keep scavenging tritium from other bombs to keep an ever decreasing number of warheads active.
Good thing we had a lot of bombs back then.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2019 10:26 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2019 10:27 PM (yQpMk)
Internal lighting is broadcast upwards from the triforium to the vault surface, and supplemented by chandeliers hung from the triforium floor or cantilevered off pillars at the triforium floor level. Even the spire was not topped with the traditional red warning light for aircraft.
It is difficult to conceive of an accidental ignition source which could have ignited inside the roof. The outside of the roof is sheathed in lead, which would have protected the wooden roof interior structure from shorts in any electrical cables used by construction crews on the exterior scaffolding. And any sparks from metal cutting. There were no construction personnel present when the fire was kindled, in any event.
It is rash to ignore arson as a possible source of ignition.
Posted by: 10x25mm at April 17, 2019 10:31 PM (e6WNk)
One hell of a coincidence.
Posted by: Voter theater. at April 17, 2019 10:26 PM (uoZbr)
Yeah, but most acts of vandalism consist of spray-painting graffiti, smearing feces on crucifixes, contaminating the holy water, or perhaps throwing a Molotov cocktail through the front door.
Starting a fire inside the roof is many orders of magnitude of difficulty beyond any of that. It would be much easier for a terrorist to set off a bomb during Mass or stage a mass shooting.
It still could be an accident despite all those other incidents of vandalism.
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2019 10:37 PM (sdi6R)
No. Tritium is the explosive.
Tritium was the enhancer. Check out the B61 Dial-a-Yield nuke. You could get from .33KT to about 40+KT by dialing the amount of Tritium released into the nuclear sphere just prior to detonation. The bomb had all kinds of delivery methods - my favorite being the reinforced spike in the nose to stick in a runway like a dart. The PETN charge that deployed a parachute on it was the closest I ever came to being hurt in an accident as a GM working on bombs.
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