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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Weekend Hobby, Crafts and Bodging ThreadFirst up, the remarkably talented upholsterer Chest'r from Krasnoyarsk in central Siberia is equally adept with wood. Here, he uses an electric chainsaw and a ball cutter in a Dremel/Foredom tool to create a really cool side table out of a tree stump. Has kind of a tribal vibe to it. I like it. From the very basic we go to the other extreme with what I can only describe as a sculptural luminary/light fixture using an array of machine tools to achieve an elegant, sleek piece. It's also expertly filmed. Next is an in-depth and excellently filmed tutorial on scratchbuilding an old barn in 1/48th or O scale. Lots of good close ups where you can really see the techniques and materials applied. Call me weird but there's something curiously compelling about watching a rusty piece of metal getting sandblasted. In any case, here's the guy from Chip Channel working his magic on a rusty old Tonka truck. Nice to have a sandblaster as well as a CNC machine! Still, it takes skills and the results are really nice. I promised a while back to show some N scale layouts and here is a really fine one up in Canada. This video is a tutorial on making a forest of fir trees, which in N scale can take up a lot of real estate even on a small layout. And this one fills a basement. Check out his channel for more running action and scenery. Really well done. A British artist potter's process. Some stunning pieces here. My paintings are representational, in the precisionist category. But I am drawn to some abstract works. I particularly like this woman's techniques and it's inspiring me to take the plunge and try a completely different style.Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Good evening hobbiests
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 05:04 PM (2JoB8) 2
Is varnish a hobby? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 05:04 PM (Vp7E/) 3
I like a light fixture that doubles as a nuclear device.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 05:06 PM (Vp7E/) 4
Nice!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 14, 2022 05:10 PM (kf6Ak) 5
Lots of Russian names on this site today, citizen.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 14, 2022 05:14 PM (udLfr) 6
hiya
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2022 05:15 PM (arJlL) 7
I have news to report regarding remote control small aircraft.
Part of the challenges to enjoyment of such is liability. What if your craft falls out of the sky onto a person or property, or loss of aircraft? If you are a professional, you incorporate, get an FAA permit, carry liability insurance, maybe even get bonded. But if you are an amateur, engaged in non-commercial activity, you can join the Academy of Model Aircraft. Membership is modest and it includes $2,000,000 of liability insurance, but only for recreational activities. https://tinyurl.com/mr4983du Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 05:17 PM (jTmQV) 8
That last video reminds me. Have you watched the professional horror artist who buys $2 Disney and SpongeBob coloring books and gets to work with his experience and expensive pens? Lots of fun.
https://youtu.be/6S2SptBd6B4 Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 14, 2022 05:18 PM (udLfr) 9
Watched most of the barn video as that is up my alley
My Grand-neice got her doll house this week and my niece says she likes it, the furniture from 30 years ago is gone so she said she will have to get her some more. Before it left again took some pictures inside with my phone. https://tinyurl.com/2p964fhj https://tinyurl.com/xctmkype Thanks JJ for the opportunity to show it Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 05:22 PM (2JoB8) 10
In my hobby I holler fore, shoot a six and take a five.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 14, 2022 05:23 PM (anj39) 11
At least 10 dead in mass shooting at Buffalo grocery store by [finally leftists!] a white supremacist, using a rifle. I wondered why the new NYS Governor was showing an interest in it and now I know why.
Suspect arrested; he had a "manifesto". Also, I'm pretty sure it wasn't white supremacists involved in another two mass shootings that happened in Milwaukee related to the NBA finals, seeing 20 wounded. Posted by: andycanuck (Jtln5) at May 14, 2022 05:28 PM (Jtln5) 12
I have 3 downed red cedars which would yield 1"X12" boards 18' long at the sawmill. Who wants 'em?
Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2022 05:29 PM (gktX6) 13
Finished building another rifle today but Ima thinking that belongs on another thread.
More on topic - I gave #4 son some of my woodworking hand tools last weekend (some duplicate Record planes). He has shown some interest and I'd rather he have them, whether or not he uses them, than they end up in an estate sale. Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2022 05:30 PM (Msys3) 14
Love this thread, JJ. Since I retired a couple of years ago, I've been trying to learn Photoshop the restore my parents old Kodak slides. I don't even know enough to be called a beginner, but it's amazing the results you can get with just a few basic moves. Pictures that looked bad in the 50's can look like they were shot yesterday. Put them up on a 4k TV and it's like going back in time. Next goal....break out the old Lionel trains before Christmas.
Posted by: Flatville Bill at May 14, 2022 05:31 PM (tEsMf) Posted by: JT at May 14, 2022 05:31 PM (arJlL) 16
Flatville Bill - what equipment/software did you use to transfer the slides to an electronic format?
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2022 05:32 PM (Msys3) 17
So very many talented Morons there are.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 05:32 PM (eGTCV) 18
Chest'r drawers
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2022 05:33 PM (63Dwl) 19
My one hobby which has survived intact over the course of years is procrastination. Glad to offer up any tips and suggestions for those of you who may be thinking of taking it up
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 05:34 PM (FLIJ+) 20
Looks like Winston might be at risk of dropping his ash onto his palette there. Gotta be careful with those long ashes.
And Krasnoyarsk. There was a problematic ABM radar there once (probably still there, looted and dusty). But wait, RUSSIA! JJ this woodworking guy needs to be cancelled. Don't want to be considered part of Russia's "amen corner", now do you? Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2022 05:36 PM (OTzUX) 21
My one hobby which has survived intact over the course of years is procrastination. Glad to offer up any tips and suggestions for those of you who may be thinking of taking it up
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 05:34 PM (FLIJ+) We should start a club--sometime. Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 05:37 PM (eGTCV) 22
The tree tutorial is another I could use for my game board. I make trees using branches from bushes gluing flocking on them. Then gluing them onto a straw piece on push pins
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 05:37 PM (2JoB8) 23
Lots of talented folks out there in meatspace.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2022 05:38 PM (R/m4+) 24
Sort of related I guess, one week this thread had that amazing German diorama making video. I occasionally get such videos popping up on UToob and my gawd they are amazing. Last one I watched was an underwater scene, U-boat getting disassembled by depth charges.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2022 05:38 PM (OTzUX) 25
11 At least 10 dead in mass shooting at Buffalo grocery store by [finally leftists!] a white supremacist, using a rifle. I wondered why the new NYS Governor was showing an interest in it and now I know why.
Suspect arrested; he had a "manifesto". Also, I'm pretty sure it wasn't white supremacists involved in another two mass shootings that happened in Milwaukee related to the NBA finals, seeing 20 wounded. Posted by: andycanuck (Jtln5) at May 14, 2022 05:28 PM (Jtln5) --------------- Manifesto link: https://tinyurl.com/bdem26bv He apparently was a STEM engineering nerd in high school who is trying to give his life meaning by imitating New Zealand shooter Brenton Tarrant. He wants to get guns banned to set off a Civil War in the United States to kill off the Jews, Islamists, & blacks. Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at May 14, 2022 05:38 PM (MFZ8i) 26
Flatville Bill - what equipment/software did you use to transfer the slides to an electronic format?
Posted by: Tonypete For scanning, I use an old Epson V500 flatbed scanner. Amazing results for a $150 machine. I think it's discontinued but the improved version is about the same price. For software, I use VueScan. I bought the professional version which comes with lifetime updates. The beauty of it is it works with all scanners, even obsolete ones like mine. Great program but a bit of a learning curve. For Photoshop, I have an old version 6.0 on disk that I bought used. Posted by: Flatville Bill at May 14, 2022 05:40 PM (tEsMf) 27
Plumbing hobby not going great today, repaired laundry sink base by putting heavy aluminum angle on 2 legs but a new faucet gad is leaking a ting bit and not my solder joints but the threaded joints.
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 05:40 PM (2JoB8) 28
Chip Channel's treatment of spiders - BURN IT WITH FIRE! - gets the ATC seal of approval.
Posted by: butch at May 14, 2022 05:41 PM (p8teb) 29
new faucet gad is leaking a ting bit and not my solder joints but the threaded joints.
Posted by: Skip Teflon tape ? pipe dope ? Posted by: JT at May 14, 2022 05:43 PM (arJlL) 30
Sir Winston's other hobby was bricklaying. He even got a bricklayers' union card.
Posted by: andycanuck (Jtln5) at May 14, 2022 05:44 PM (Jtln5) 31
Where's Winnie's
Posted by: Fox2! at May 14, 2022 05:45 PM (qyH+l) Posted by: gp at May 14, 2022 05:48 PM (qpX6U) 33
19 My one hobby which has survived intact over the course of years is procrastination. Glad to offer up any tips and suggestions for those of you who may be thinking of taking it up
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 05:34 PM (FLIJ+) ---------- PRO TIP: That one pairs well with compulsive masturbation. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 05:50 PM (Vp7E/) 34
This probably doesn't count as a hobby, just a never-ending activity. I'm trying to find shelf space and organize my accumulation (collection sounds too orderly) of books. It's a delicate balancing act: be able to have a small chance in hell of finding a book when I want it and not disturb the planet's axis.
Sisyphus had it easy. Posted by: JTB at May 14, 2022 05:50 PM (7EjX1) 35
https://tinyurl.com/2p87wckj
Good picture showing my trees, the felt area is the boundaries of wooded area. The boats are what I need to make pontoon bridge with though the barn tutorial had a water trough that could also be pontoon boats Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 05:51 PM (2JoB8) 36
On plumbing threads use pipe thread dope today, makes them go together easy
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 05:52 PM (2JoB8) 37
36 On plumbing threads use pipe thread dope today, makes them go together easy
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 05:52 PM (2JoB ---------- One of the cobs should start a plumbing thread. We could nominate a pipe thread dope every week. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 05:54 PM (Vp7E/) 38
#35 Interesting idea, Skip, to have holes in the felt woods' boundary rather than having the trees' stands visible on top of the felt.
Posted by: andycanuck (Jtln5) at May 14, 2022 05:54 PM (Jtln5) 39
Skip, tell your niece to check out ebay for dollhouse furniture. There's a brand, Renwal, which dates from the fifties, plastic, very sturdy, and pieces are generally only a few dollars. Mine dates to when I spent my allowance for it when I was a kid! It has survived me, my daughter, and five grandchildren. If something breaks, I can replace it for a few dollars.
Posted by: Wenda at May 14, 2022 05:54 PM (TK9+5) 40
13 ... "" Finished building another rifle today but Ima thinking that belongs on another thread."
Tonypete, What was the rifle? And does your son know how to sharpen and maintain those planes? I shudder at the thought of Record planes getting rusty. Posted by: JTB at May 14, 2022 05:56 PM (7EjX1) 41
All the spinning talk last week reminded me how much I enjoyed that before we moved to Texas with a 5x8 U-Haul and I had to abandon almost everything.
I dug out what I'd managed to keep (5 drop spindles and a wrist distaff). Ordered some merino top, and happily discovered that after 8 years I can still use a drop spindle! My drafting's gotten a bit irregular, but that will improve with practice, especially after the wheel I ordered yesterday arrives. Thanks to all you spinners for getting me back into a very enjoyable activity. Posted by: Ann Wilson, aka Empire 1 at May 14, 2022 05:56 PM (y0zVi) 42
That barn is missing one thing: a faded "See Rock City" ad on the roof.
Posted by: Fox2! at May 14, 2022 05:56 PM (qyH+l) 43
On plumbing threads use pipe thread dope today, makes them go together easy
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 05:52 PM (2JoB ---------- One of the cobs should start a plumbing thread. We could nominate a pipe thread dope every week. Posted by: Cicero This is included in My Holistic and Healing Hobby Pregame Programme. All Gaps to Be Minded. Posted by: Prof. Dr. Chikoadinaka Wnankpa, Healer Of Herbalist Knowlewdges at May 14, 2022 05:57 PM (aCM3P) 44
Oddly enough. I don't understand it at all but women seem to like me. Maybe there's a hobby in that.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 05:57 PM (eGTCV) 45
I do like that picture of Winston Churchill painting. Thanks, J.J. It seems to me that from what I've seen of his work, Churchill was a fine painter and I think it gave him relaxation and the ability to "get away" from the stresses of daily life, which are important parts of a hobby.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 05:57 PM (fF2aM) Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 05:58 PM (sXGra) 47
I think painting-art not walls--would be a fantastic hobby. Wish I could do that.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 05:59 PM (eGTCV) Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 14, 2022 06:01 PM (Bca4D) 49
45 I do like that picture of Winston Churchill painting. Thanks, J.J. It seems to me that from what I've seen of his work, Churchill was a fine painter and I think it gave him relaxation and the ability to "get away" from the stresses of daily life, which are important parts of a hobby.
--------- You know who else was a painter? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 06:02 PM (Vp7E/) 50
Fenelon, Churchill was a better painter than Hitler for sure. How are you doing?
Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2022 06:02 PM (gktX6) Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 06:02 PM (DxFDO) 52
45 ... "I do like that picture of Winston Churchill painting."
Fenelon, Churchill wrote a delightful essay on how and why he got started, in his 40s, with painting and how it improved his life. I splurged on a good hardcover edition but chances are your local library has it available. Definitely worth a read. Posted by: JTB at May 14, 2022 06:03 PM (7EjX1) 53
I think painting-art not walls--would be a fantastic hobby. Wish I could do that.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens A MoMe Seminar in Painting with Queso Fresco would be Awesome Posted by: Mike Angelo (not gay) at May 14, 2022 06:03 PM (aCM3P) 54
My one hobby which has survived intact over the course of years is procrastination. Glad to offer up any tips and suggestions for those of you who may be thinking of taking it up
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 05:34 PM (FLIJ+) ---------- PRO TIP: That one pairs well with compulsive masturbation. Posted by: Cicero Well I haven't experienced that aspect. Yet. One of my pro tips is get married or at least involved in a serious relationship with a significant other. Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 06:04 PM (FLIJ+) 55
Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2022 06:02 PM (gktX6)
Just tired. It's been a long day. FenSon's graduation and our church rummage sale. Next week I get to be the Queen of medical tests prior to my surgery the following week. Thx for asking., Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:04 PM (fF2aM) Posted by: Dubya at May 14, 2022 06:04 PM (aCM3P) 57
My one hobby which has survived intact over the course of years is procrastination. Glad to offer up any tips and suggestions for those of you who may be thinking of taking it up
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 05:34 PM (FLIJ+) ---------- PRO TIP: That one pairs well with compulsive masturbation. But later Procrasturbation Posted by: My hobby is making up words at May 14, 2022 06:06 PM (aCM3P) 58
I always wanted to procrastinate, but I never got around to it.
Posted by: Flatville Bill at May 14, 2022 06:06 PM (tEsMf) 59
Posted by: JTB at May 14, 2022 06:03 PM (7EjX1)
Thanks. It sounds like a good book. I think Churchill was amazing. Such a fine writer (I've read other things by him not the art book) as well as a brilliant man. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:06 PM (fF2aM) 60
In that battle in picture, the Prussian jagers were going across in boats as the main army had to force its way across a bridge downstream. A roaming and controlled by dice Cossack division ( I have no French in this 1812 armies) never did discover the Prussians crossing who never really got into the battle anyway.
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 06:07 PM (2JoB8) Posted by: JTB at May 14, 2022 06:07 PM (7EjX1) 62
Tests and waiting are worse than the surgery.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 06:07 PM (sXGra) 63
Wow. Here's the saddest part of that manifesto:
Are you a Christian? No. I do not ask God for salvation by faith, nor do I confess my sins to Him. Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 06:07 PM (DxFDO) 64
2 Is varnish a hobby? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 05:04 PM (Vp7E/) If it's in Pullman green, Tuscan Red, ATSF silver, it can be part of a model railroad in any convenient scale. (Varnish - Rail road slang for passenger/express equipment, derived from the varnish (as opposed to just paint) applied to wooden passenger cars. ) Posted by: Fox2! at May 14, 2022 06:08 PM (qyH+l) 65
Always nice to have more spinners! It's all just muscle memory and will come back to you. I have an order coming in from Inglenook Fibers next week.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 14, 2022 06:08 PM (YynYJ) 66
Shaped charges: never piss off an old man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=K-3cTsvI7ss Remove space. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 06:08 PM (bW8dp) 67
I think Churchill was amazing. Such a fine writer (I've read other things by him not the art book) as well as a brilliant man.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke "History shall be kind to me, for I intend to write it." Posted by: W. Spencer Churchill at May 14, 2022 06:08 PM (aCM3P) 68
Real procrastination takes self discipline. It isn't for everyone.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 06:09 PM (Vp7E/) Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2022 06:09 PM (gktX6) 70
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 05:57 PM (eGTCV)
Well, from what you've shared you have the ability to be interested in women. Women, as well as men appreciate genuine interest and you have the ability to empathize. We all feel better when we feel listened to intently and cared about. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:09 PM (fF2aM) 71
He has footnotes in his manifesto of murder.
-------------- Apparently there are cut & pastes from the NZ shooter's -- maybe check he's not a Biden?? Posted by: andycanuck (Jtln5) at May 14, 2022 06:09 PM (Jtln5) 72
- Are you a conservative?
No, conservatism is corporatism in disguise, I want no part of it. - Are you "right wing"? Depending on the definition, sure. - Are you "left wing"? Depending on the definition, sure. - Are you a socialist? Depending on the definition. * Oh man, that's going to be a tough sell. Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 06:09 PM (DxFDO) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:11 PM (fF2aM) Posted by: Hunter at May 14, 2022 06:12 PM (Jtln5) 75
Maybe I could start an art hobby with pencil sketches of my doggie.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 06:12 PM (eGTCV) Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 06:12 PM (sXGra) Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 06:13 PM (bW8dp) 78
> - Are you "right wing"?
Depending on the definition, sure. Always remember that the Fascists and Nazis were socialists. Fascists and Nazis are only "right wing" if you are Stalin. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 06:14 PM (bW8dp) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:14 PM (fF2aM) 80
My other hobby (rather than the Weasel endorsed one) is Ancestry research. I have north of 60,000 people in my trees. Mrs. R’s family is much more interesting than mine - Eastern European with a lot of ground being fought over today.
Mine is pure white bread WASP - Scottish, English, Irish and a bit of Welsh. Name goes back to the Norman invasion. Any other genealogists in the Horde? Posted by: RI Red at May 14, 2022 06:16 PM (A1aWg) 81
Buddy's wife is going to have a tumor on her brain removed late June. They will start the cut on the neck, proceed behind the ear, then up the top of the cranium.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 06:16 PM (sXGra) 82
Northernlurker try drawing, practically costs nothing, even water colors are fairly cheap. So if nothing comes of it if it's relaxing it's worth it. But people can have talent they never knew they had.
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 06:16 PM (2JoB8) 83
Always remember that the Fascists and Nazis were socialists.
Fascists and Nazis are only "right wing" if you are Stalin. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia ** He's also an environmental nutjob. Page 164 Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 06:17 PM (DxFDO) 84
Speaking of procrastination, I probably need to resume my other hobby which is fixing stuff that broke. First on that list is two of my four frost frees which stopped working last fall. If I hurry I'll look like I've been busy when Mrs. Sock gets back from lunch with her sisters.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 06:17 PM (FLIJ+) 85
Skip, I have old fashioned doll house furniture. If you would like to have it, I could send some pictures, but I may not get around to it until after my surgery. Contact me at FenelonDirection18 at sign gmail.com
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:17 PM (fF2aM) 86
That barn is missing one thing: a faded "See Rock City" ad on the roof. Posted by: Fox2! Chew Mail Pouch Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2022 06:18 PM (63Dwl) 87
82 Northernlurker try drawing, practically costs nothing, even water colors are fairly cheap. So if nothing comes of it if it's relaxing it's worth it. But people can have talent they never knew they had.
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 06:16 PM (2JoB ---------- That's what I found out. Posted by: Rothko at May 14, 2022 06:18 PM (Vp7E/) Posted by: gp at May 14, 2022 06:19 PM (qpX6U) 89
"Any other genealogists in the Horde?"
I've got some relations that are enthusiasts. I've taken them to the Mormon Temple in Oakland, where they do research. The thing I recall is that the numbers get very big, very fast. Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 06:19 PM (jTmQV) 90
Mass Killings To Order. Call 1-888-3103
Ask for Bob. =========== Let's see if the FIB knew of him; and had ever contacted him. Posted by: andycanuck (Jtln5) at May 14, 2022 06:20 PM (Jtln5) 91
One of my hobbies is watching The Curse of Oak Island while drinking.
Metal detection expert Gary Drayton has been finding a bunch of heavily rusted metal objects. He thinks they're ox shoes. I'm thinking dildoes. Dildoes? On oak Island? Sexually frustrated Amazonian warriors? On Oak Island? I'll be in my bunk? On Oak Island? Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 06:20 PM (eGTCV) 92
Maybe I could start an art hobby with pencil sketches of my doggie.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 06:12 PM (eGTCV) Do that. I love drawing. Pencils, a pad of good paper, and you're all set. Start with quick studies to learn how she holds her body. I recommend charcoal for that. Nice bold strokes and you can draw her form in mere moments. We did a lot of that in figure drawing, but it certainly works with critters too. I like the idea of painting, but I just don't have the patience for it (set-up, practice, all of it). I have plenty of other creative outlets. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 14, 2022 06:21 PM (x8Wzq) 93
One of the most famous poems in Hungary is about a very lazy man-
Pató Pál A political Party was founded in his honour Posted by: Pató Pál member #17 at May 14, 2022 06:21 PM (aCM3P) 94
Here are some paintings by Winston Churchill, You can use the arrows to the left and right to see more works:
tinyurl.com/yc6u3mv2 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:23 PM (fF2aM) Posted by: Gene E. Ologist at May 14, 2022 06:23 PM (aCM3P) 96
MY people came from England, Ireland, Scotland, Prussia, Swizerland, Germany and one sneaky Peat from the India/Indonesia area. That's what the BT says.
Doesn't say who sneaky Peat was. Always thought it was [family legend] Indian BT says no way. Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 06:23 PM (sXGra) 97
Wow. Here's the saddest part of that manifesto:
Are you a Christian? No. I do not ask God for salvation by faith, nor do I confess my sins to Him. Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 06:07 PM (DxFDO) Sadly for him, God probably respected his wishes. Posted by: LASue, Thought Leader at May 14, 2022 06:23 PM (Ed8Zd) 98
Hobby: ham radio.
That's cool. I know you can make a battery from a potato, but a working radio from a ham? Posted by: Impressed Amateur at May 14, 2022 06:25 PM (aCM3P) 99
Sneaky Peat would have come from Scotland.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 06:25 PM (Vp7E/) 100
See Ruby Falls!
Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2022 06:26 PM (gktX6) 101
91 One of my hobbies is watching The Curse of Oak Island while drinking.
----------------- My young mother grew to be an old woman and died waiting to discover the mystery of Oak Island. Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 06:26 PM (sXGra) 102
Gormand, we’ve been out to Salt Lake City to the Mormon ancestry records. Free, lots of info, and really got us started.
The numbers do add up fast, especially when you’re working on a specific line. Mrs. Red’s line stops back in the mid 1800s when there was a huge migration of Galicians to the Pennsylvania coal mine areas. I have lots of clues and the same family names keep popping up (especially using DNA), but I am missing a couple of key connections. Therefore, lots of paths to follow and lots of names. Posted by: RI Red at May 14, 2022 06:26 PM (A1aWg) 103
> I think Churchill was amazing. Such a fine writer (I've read other things by him not the art book) as well as a brilliant man.
His "History of the English-Speaking Peoples" is one of the best books (well, several books) that I've ever read. For those who haven't read it, you want the original four-volume set, not the "concise" one-volume edition which has been heavily cut and made PC/"woke". Sadly, it's quite expensive. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 06:26 PM (bW8dp) 104
Is varnish a hobby? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 05:04 PM (Vp7E/) I don't know, but I hope ironing sheets is. That would put a better spin on my last 2 days. Posted by: LASue, Thought Leader at May 14, 2022 06:26 PM (Ed8Zd) Posted by: Fred G. Sanford at May 14, 2022 06:26 PM (aCM3P) 106
Wish i could get ahold of Estes model rockets from the late 70's. Their catalogue was like pornography to a prepubescent boy.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 14, 2022 06:26 PM (KAi1n) 107
Any other genealogists in the Horde?
Posted by: RI Red On my father's side, we have a family history painstakingly done by my uncle ( his father's side)which goes back to the early 1700's. I have at least six ancestors named Israel. He worked on it for nearly 30 years. On my mother's side the family history of her mother ( the Scottish side) was passed down orally, primarily to my mom's oldest sister. My aunt was in the process of writing it down when she was killed by a drunk driver. My mom was six years old when her mother died from appendicitis. Some of my fondest memories are the stories my aunt would tell all of us of their mother's family. Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 06:26 PM (FLIJ+) 108
Years ago I got the DNA analysis.
98% Northern European, 2% neanderthal. It broke my heart. I was desperately hoping to find enough Native American DNA to start a casino somewhere. Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 06:26 PM (jTmQV) 109
Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 06:16 PM (sXGra)
My gosh; That's sounds like a big operation. May the Lord give skill and wisdom to the doctor and the other medical team members and may she be healed and restored. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:28 PM (fF2aM) 110
As a teenager into twentys sketched a lot, getting sketch books, somewhere just dropped it
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 06:28 PM (2JoB8) 111
His "History of the English-Speaking Peoples" is one of the best books (well, several books) that I've ever read.
** I second this. I found my box set on ebay for a fairly reasonable used price. $30-40 IIRC, in great shape. Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 06:29 PM (DxFDO) 112
Years ago I got the DNA analysis.
98% Northern European, 2% neanderthal. -------- I identify as Neanderthal. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 06:29 PM (Vp7E/) 113
Fen will give you some time and then will send you a email
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 06:29 PM (2JoB8) 114
And I can't get up!
Posted by: Ruby at May 14, 2022 06:30 PM (63Dwl) 115
Any other genealogists in the Horde?
Posted by: RI Red Hey Posted by: Gene E. Ologist at May 14, 2022 06:23 P By ancestry I'm German Mennonite. Genealogy is a thing among German Mennonites lots of books out there tracing my ancestry to great great great grampa Johann. According to legend he bought a house which was supposedly haunted. When the ghost showed up he threw a scuttle full of burning coals at the feet of the ghost. The ghost jumped. I have no idea if the story is true. Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 06:30 PM (eGTCV) Posted by: unfrozen caveman linguist at May 14, 2022 06:30 PM (aCM3P) 117
Knitting a sweater for a friend's baby, yet to be born which is a good thing as this tiny sweater is taking longer than I thought. I am out of practice and can't knit for a long time at a go. For any knitting morons out there, the pattern is the baby surprise jacket by Elizabeth Zimmerman. This is the 4th one I've made. I like the pattern because there are only two seams at the end.
Posted by: MammaB at May 14, 2022 06:30 PM (GSqQL) 118
Love the video of the guy making the trees for his model railroad. Going to need to try that technique, except I'll need to scale up the size of the trees to O gauge. There is a mountain area on my layout that could use some trees, as well the mountain lake area. Might add a drive-in theater this summer, the screen being made from an old portable DVD player that has an AV input. May have to create some new "land" on the edge f town for that. Layout pretty much fills the entire 25' by 12' room now. Of course, there IS that wall that could come down.....
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 14, 2022 06:30 PM (Zvtjl) 119
99 Sneaky Peat would have come from Scotland.
--------------------------- BT says nope, India, Malaysia, Indonesia are top choices. Not a phenotype but a genotype. Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 06:30 PM (sXGra) 120
My late wife had many hobbies
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 06:32 PM (eGTCV) 121
BT says nope, India, Malaysia, Indonesia are top choices. Not a phenotype but a genotype.
Posted by: Braenyard Eh, whattaya talkin heres? Posted by: a Geno type at May 14, 2022 06:32 PM (aCM3P) 122
Any other genealogists in the Horde?
Posted by: RI Red I have 2 ancestry threads going- one from my parents which includes lots of the work my dad did before online searches (I have the boat manifest from the early 1900s when dad's mom, who was 2, came over from Denmark with her mom, dad, and 6 brothers and sisters). I also have a genetic thread that popped up after my kids and I submitted our swabs to ancestry. I've figured out some of my birth relatives based on DNA match percentages and locale. (I don't respond to the occasional online queries. ) Posted by: LASue, Thought Leader at May 14, 2022 06:33 PM (Ed8Zd) 123
My paternal side has a pretty good genealogy, tracing back to Colonial America. My direct ancestor then was actually kidnapped and held for ransom in the West Indies until the clan paid for his release. He eventually arrived in Virginia and homesteaded in the panhandle not far from Wheeling.
Not much from my Mom's side, except for a few interesting anecdotes; like a great uncle who might have murdered someone. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 14, 2022 06:33 PM (x8Wzq) 124
Sock Monkey, my uncle and my grandmother were into genealogy back when it was all done by physical research, going to town halls, churches, etc.
I have some of their original hard cover materials, but now, I can go online and fine the exact same things electronically. Much easier. The satisfying thing is comparing ancient family spoken lore with the records. Lots of “interesting” comparisons. Posted by: RI Red at May 14, 2022 06:33 PM (A1aWg) 125
The Neanderthals were peaceful types, and artists.
Probably explains why they are gone. Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 06:34 PM (jTmQV) 126
Zap (gKX/G)
Posted by: gp at May 14, 2022 06:35 PM (qpX6U) 127
Looks like a regular of this site did their best Kyle Rittenhouse interpretation in Buffalo today. Yay guns! Amirite?
Posted by: Sid at May 14, 2022 06:33 PM (gKX/G) Anyone seen Kurt? Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 14, 2022 06:35 PM (yQpMk) 128
126 The Neanderthals were peaceful types, and artists.
Probably explains why they are gone. Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 06:34 PM (jTmQV) ---------- Their only crime was that they loved too much. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 06:35 PM (Vp7E/) 129
gourmand and probably maskless too is why they are gone
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 06:35 PM (2JoB8) 130
Serious question, in ancestry study, do you follow the lineage of the father or mother? Or both?
Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 06:36 PM (jTmQV) 131
Though the guy's a socialist. Maybe rainmando.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 14, 2022 06:36 PM (yQpMk) Posted by: the neanderthals at May 14, 2022 06:36 PM (aCM3P) Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 14, 2022 06:37 PM (x8Wzq) 134
Go ride the pony Sid.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 06:37 PM (FLIJ+) 135
Sid, go fuck yourself.
The grownups are having a quiet conversation. Posted by: RI Red at May 14, 2022 06:38 PM (A1aWg) 136
I'm sorry that when any of you kindly and kindly paying people ask how I am, I redundantly say "I'm tired". I probably should think of something more exciting to say such as "My latest symptom is seeing dancing hippos out of the corner of my eye" or "I'm just levitated two feet" but the former might indicate some problem with alcohol-which I don't have , and the latter might mean I was some Saint-capital S saint such as Saint Francis. I am definitely not going to be canonized.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:38 PM (fF2aM) 137
> Looks like a regular of this site did their best Kyle Rittenhouse interpretation in Buffalo today.
Engaged in lawful self-defense as determined by a jury of his peers? Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 06:39 PM (bW8dp) 138
A ham can would make a dandy chassis for a radio.
Posted by: klaftern at May 14, 2022 06:39 PM (taPSh) 139
Sid is on reduced medication today. Please be tolerant.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 06:39 PM (Vp7E/) 140
On my father's side, we have a family history painstakingly done by my uncle (
Posted by: Sock Monkey ------------------- My grandfather's sister, a librarian, spent all her extra time researching the family tree and meticulously editing out every ne'er-do-well and miscreant she discovered. Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 06:39 PM (sXGra) 141
Looks like a regular of this site did their best Kyle Rittenhouse interpretation in Buffalo today. Yay guns! Amirite?
** The "green" movement guy whose wrote a manifesto and clearly stated he wasn't a conservative and could be considered a left wing socialist depending on the issue? Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 06:39 PM (DxFDO) 142
Engaged in lawful self-defense as determined by a jury of his peers?
* Anonymously paid the bill for breakfast for the entire table of police officers sitting next to them? Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 06:41 PM (DxFDO) 143
Definitely follow both sides. The DNA doesn’t care where it comes from.
Once you really get into it, you realize that everyone that came before is a lot like present day people. Except Sid. But he ain’t people, evidently. Posted by: RI Red at May 14, 2022 06:41 PM (A1aWg) 144
It wasn't mine but at friends of families house I use to play with a truck close if not exactly like that. Christmas a decade or so ago the woman gave me a Erector set from 50s to early 60s and did a inventory of parts and only missing a few.
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 06:41 PM (2JoB8) 145
I'm still waiting to buy one of those David Hogg Signature Leftard pillows. Will they be available soon?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 06:42 PM (Vp7E/) 146
His "History of the English-Speaking Peoples" is one of the best books (well, several books) that I've ever read.
One of my most cherished inheritances from my mother was her collection of Winston's books. She admired Churchill. Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 06:42 PM (FLIJ+) 147
> I identify as Neanderthal.
Well, lah-di-dah. Look at Mr. Fancy Pants with his manufactured tools and his cave paintings and his fire. Posted by: Australopithicine with a Chip on his Shoulder at May 14, 2022 06:42 PM (bW8dp) 148
I'm still waiting to buy one of those David Hogg Signature Leftard pillows. Will they be available soon?
Posted by: Cicero Yes!!! Pre-Bitten! Posted by: Da Hogg at May 14, 2022 06:43 PM (aCM3P) 149
Fen, people are concerned and we will continue to ask, and feel free to elaborate, how you are doing.
We are also going to ask for test results and details of the operation. It's because we want to be there with you. Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 06:43 PM (sXGra) 150
I used to watch the "Oak Island" show many years ago before I quit TV.
Have those two assheads found anything yet? Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2022 06:43 PM (R/m4+) 151
I know about more about my geneology than I care to. Both Mrs. F and I have amateur geneologists in our families.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2022 06:43 PM (EZebt) Posted by: non-telegenic at May 14, 2022 06:45 PM (aCM3P) 153
Braenyard, my grandsons did an ancestral search (it was how they found out they were identical twins) and had a similar finding. Asian/Siberian. (We also had a family legend.) No way of getting back to it that we knew of, so my son looked into it. American Indians rarely register. They don't like it. So the closest many people can get is an unexplained Asian strain, meaning people who migrated from Siberia. They're after me to have it done, because I'm the grandparent with the legend, so if I have that, too, it becomes more probable. So far I've resisted.
Posted by: Wenda at May 14, 2022 06:45 PM (TK9+5) 154
55 ,,, Fenelon,
Know you are in our prayers and I'm sure the prayers of many others here. Posted by: JTB Yep . Posted by: JT at May 14, 2022 06:47 PM (arJlL) 155
Fenelon,
Know you are in our prayers and I'm sure the prayers of many others here. Posted by: JTB Yep . Igen Posted by: anonymously prayerful at May 14, 2022 06:49 PM (aCM3P) 156
I spent an enjoyable day stripping and painting an N scale bay window caboose to convert it from Erie Lackawanna to Southern RR. Tomorrow I will run it at the train show in Spencer NC, home of the historical Southern Railroad shops.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 14, 2022 06:49 PM (CcOog) 157
I don't see any trees in that forest.
Posted by: The Larch at May 14, 2022 06:49 PM (vrz2I) 158
Geo. Washington is referred to as the Father of the Nation, but really, that honor should go to Patrick Henry, who had 17 offspring by 2 wives.
Washington had none. Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 06:50 PM (jTmQV) 159
What was the rifle? And does your son know how to sharpen and maintain those planes? I shudder at the thought of Record planes getting rusty.
Posted by: JTB Sorry - eating pizza with the grandgirls. Another hobby. An AR platform. Son has sharpened one or two plane blades so he is certainly a novice. He promised to not touch them until we work together to get him some learning. Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2022 06:51 PM (Msys3) Posted by: The Larch at May 14, 2022 06:51 PM (vrz2I) 161
I would like to share about a hobby our church organist has. I asked if people could bake for our rummage sale. Jessie made eght English muffin loaves-which apparently you have to eat toasted- and eight little bags of cookies- Five different types in each bag-Andes mint, Chocolate cinnamon bars, marshmallow chocolate-like little whoopie pies, raisin choc chip and shortbread bites,, She put a picture of her cookies on the front of the bag, tied up with ribbons and put a sticker on te bake saying From the kitchen of Jessie___". Jessie is 95 She is the dearest person. Everybody who has a church organist should have one like Jessie. I love her.
Oh, yes, she said "Should I come and sell the baked goods?" I said "No, I don't think so, Jessie. You've done more than enough." Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:52 PM (fF2aM) 162
156 I spent an enjoyable day stripping and painting an N scale bay window caboose to convert it from Erie Lackawanna to Southern RR. Tomorrow I will run it at the train show in Spencer NC, home of the historical Southern Railroad shops.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 14, 2022 06:49 PM (CcOog) --------- *looks at Hot Wheels racetrack* *kicks Hot Wheels racetrack into garbage can* Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 06:52 PM (Vp7E/) 163
156 I spent an enjoyable day stripping and painting an N scale bay window caboose to convert it from Erie Lackawanna to Southern RR. Tomorrow I will run it at the train show in Spencer NC, home of the historical Southern Railroad shops.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 14, 2022 06:49 PM (CcOog) It's good you didn't drop a comma behind the word stripping. Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at May 14, 2022 06:53 PM (eGTCV) 164
Wenda, mine, there is also a tribe in north east Russia that is same as Indonesia but no where else on the continent.
American Indians came from these people - "the Japanese population belongs basically to the northern Mongoloid group and is thus suggested to have originated in northeast Asia, most likely in the Baikal area of Siberia." https://is.gd/oOUA1Q Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 06:53 PM (sXGra) 165
Manifesto link:
https://tinyurl.com/bdem26bv I tried to check it out, and get this message: google drive: We're sorry. You can't access this item because it is in violation of our Terms of Service. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2022 06:54 PM (r46W7) 166
This Buffalo supermarket shooting is shaping up to be everything the left has ever wanted in a shooting. They're collectively flicking beans and having on-air orgasms.
So yeah, it's bad. Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 14, 2022 06:54 PM (M+9E9) 167
Not sure if I want to spend 200+ Euros on a portable case to organize my model paints and tools, but it does looks spiffy.
https://tinyurl.com/34uandkj Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2022 06:55 PM (ZJ99k) 168
Fen, Jessie sounds terrific. Thanks for sharing her creative baking. She's inspiring me
Posted by: skywch at May 14, 2022 06:56 PM (uqhmb) 169
I heartily recommend taking up drawing if you are so inclined. You can always find a drawing tool lying about these days. A pencil. A pen. Whatever.
When I was just a wee lad I spent hours drawing just for the heck of it. Fifty+ years later I'm a retired graphic designer and illustrator (though I still do illustration and art, but mostly for pleasure now). I'm currently getting back into graphite and charcoal drawings. Just finished one of my dog (I posted it on my blog if you're interested). I love drawing! You can buy a pad of paper, or just use whatever's lying around as well. Envelopes. Paper sacks. Cardboard. The back of junk mail letters, etc. You could easily take up the hobby for free. Look around. We're virtually drowning in free art supplies. Posted by: topdog at May 14, 2022 06:56 PM (rZslB) 170
Washington did all right. He was the Father of our country. 225 years of Freedom ain't bad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2022 06:56 PM (dNqv+) 171
So yeah, it's bad.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 14, 2022 06:54 PM (M+9E9) Sounds to me as if he was a mixed bad nutcase evil person. Perhaps you're the one who's having an orgasm. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:57 PM (fF2aM) 172
I could cry every time I think of my Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars long gone
My wife got from her dad a box of toys like these rustled beyond prepare videos we have seen, some not even as bad as these. Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 06:57 PM (2JoB8) 173
My wife came up very high on the scale as to Neanderthal genes. You know why? Because she's mostly Welsh. Friggin' Welsh, it's always something.
Made me wonder if the Neanderthals used to terrify their foes with mass close harmony singing. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2022 06:57 PM (r46W7) 174
Posted by: skywch at May 14, 2022 06:56 PM (uqhmb
I'm glad, dear. Baking is something I've never been able to do. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:58 PM (fF2aM) 175
My paintings are representational, in the precisionist category. But I am drawn to some abstract works.
-------- When are we ever gonna get an original Sefton in the Art Thread? I think CBD's been holding out on us ... /I've ever only been good at one thing with my hands (no, not that!) to which the wifey can attest (yes, yes that!). Just popping in between ToDo's -- Ciao my friends! Posted by: ShainS at May 14, 2022 06:58 PM (93Arc) 176
This Buffalo supermarket shooting is shaping up to be everything the left has ever wanted in a shooting. They're collectively flicking beans and having on-air orgasms.
- Self-described white supremacist kills at least 10 in mass shooting in Buffalo while streaming on Twitch; Update: Tucker Carlson to blame https://bit.ly/38uJc1h Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at May 14, 2022 06:59 PM (FVME7) 177
So yeah, it's bad. Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 14, 2022 06:54 PM I gots 50 quatloos what says he was a prohibited possessor and another 50 quatloos what says he was a "known wolf" Posted by: AltonJackson at May 14, 2022 06:59 PM (ENBF0) 178
It also sounds like a good time to avoid all news until the next crisis.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 07:00 PM (fF2aM) 179
166....
Did you have an orgasm when that black racist killed and maimed dozens in Waukesha, WI last Christmas? How about when that other black supremacist shot a dozen people in the NY subway last month? Posted by: PacosMojo at May 14, 2022 07:00 PM (Gh+p2) 180
My late husband loved doing geneology. One of his nephew's sons wound up working at Ancestry so he had someone in the family to help with research.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 14, 2022 07:00 PM (TqWWx) 181
Ann Wilson, so glad you have reclaimed your spinning. I've tried a drop spindle but can't get comfy with it, have to stand up. Plying the finished product was a nightmare (don't have a wheel.) Ended up with a nice little skein of merino with some of my cherished cat's fur carded in. But for me, it was a lot of effort for so little. I love the economy and portability though.
Posted by: skywch at May 14, 2022 07:01 PM (uqhmb) 182
173 My wife came up very high on the scale as to Neanderthal genes. You know why? Because she's mostly Welsh. Friggin' Welsh, it's always something.
Made me wonder if the Neanderthals used to terrify their foes with mass close harmony singing. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2022 06:57 PM (r46W7) -------- LOL. That, and their complete disdain for vowels. Posted by: ShainS at May 14, 2022 07:01 PM (93Arc) Posted by: Genghis Khan at May 14, 2022 07:01 PM (bW8dp) 184
Fen, you are always in my prayers and thoughts. You are one of the stalwart voices of reason and wisdom amongst these grey boxes. Standing in front of our Lord I think He may tell you how greatly loved you were by the myriad of brothers and sisters who placed your name in front of Him in supplication.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 07:02 PM (FLIJ+) 185
Washington was away fighting the war while Patrick was gettin' busy.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 07:02 PM (jTmQV) 186
172 I could cry every time I think of my Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars long gone
-------- I had a collection of Corgi Toys. I was addicted to those things. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 07:02 PM (Vp7E/) 187
A 106-page online manifesto, believed to have been uploaded by the shooter, explained that he was motivated by a conspiracy theory that white people are being replaced by other races. In the document, he says he is 18 years old and a self-described white supremacist and anti-semite.
"If there’s one thing I want you to get from these writings, it's that White birth rates must change." - Even a Roe v. Wade angle. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at May 14, 2022 07:02 PM (FVME7) Posted by: Dafydd ap Crwrthyw at May 14, 2022 07:02 PM (bW8dp) 189
Washington was away fighting the war while Patrick was gettin' busy.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 07:02 PM (jTmQV) I read that with Syndrome's voice (Jason Lee). No capes. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 14, 2022 07:03 PM (x8Wzq) 190
Fen, baking is very gratifying! I won't say it's easy necessarily, but it's pretty simple.
Pizza crust (for example) can be made almost as quickly as delivery. But it really tastes better if it is allowed a day or two for flavor to develop. French bread and the like is more involved than Pizza but is very tasty. Everybody should know how to make bread, or at least try it. One of those basic skills Posted by: Common Tater at May 14, 2022 07:04 PM (a0d9C) 191
Manifesto link:
https://tinyurl.com/bdem26bv I tried to check it out, and get this message: google drive: We're sorry. You can't access this item because it is in violation of our Terms of Service. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2022 06:54 PM Citizen Free Press has it: https://tinyurl.com/ysaew8we Posted by: one of the quiet ones at May 14, 2022 07:04 PM (2GPSc) 192
Anna in my dreams
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 07:05 PM (2JoB8) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 07:05 PM (fF2aM) 194
Guess the guy from Siberia doesn't like his eyes very much. Whadda safety glasses cost nowadays, hum? $3-$25.
Posted by: sidney at May 14, 2022 07:05 PM (itAo5) 195
180 My late husband loved doing geneology. One of his nephew's sons wound up working at Ancestry so he had someone in the family to help with research.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 14, 2022 07:00 PM (TqWWx) -------- Tending to be OCD, I really got into it for a coupe of years at FamilySearch.org. For two years in-a-row (2018 & 2019) I had clocked something like 15,000 updates each and added well 850 different individuals (not all direct ancestors, as I would go off on tangents either via marriage or when attempting to untangle distinct individuals/families incorrectly merged owing to similar names, places, & dates). I would work all weekend and frequently late into the evenings. Started referring to the wifey as a "genealogy widow." There was quite a challenge attempting to really discern reality, especially in the face of apparent contradictions -- a la Sherlock Holmes solving a mystery murder. Definitely an adrenaline high and addictive ... Posted by: ShainS at May 14, 2022 07:05 PM (93Arc) 196
Probably should apply the 72 Hour Rule on the Buffalo shooting.
How many previous times has the media trotted out the "right wing" narrative, only to have it turn out later that the dude listed "The Communist Manifesto" as his favorite book on his Facebook page? Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 07:06 PM (bW8dp) 197
No sane person writes a 106 page manifesto explaining their sanity.
The dude hung out at 4chan. Enough said. Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 07:06 PM (jTmQV) 198
Manifesto link:
https://tinyurl.com/bdem26bv I tried to check it out, and get this message: google drive: We're sorry. You can't access this item because it is in violation of our Terms of Service. Posted by: Tom Servo It's 106 pages. I'll wait for the movie. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at May 14, 2022 07:06 PM (FVME7) 199
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 06:57 PM
Not sure where you get off attacking me, but this will be the most overhyped shooting since that nut shot up a black church (which effectively banned the confederate flag in America as a result). Shooting the messenger is quite the pastime around here. I often forget. Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 14, 2022 07:07 PM (G6DU0) 200
188 > LOL. That, and their complete disdain for vowels.
What? "W" is totally a vowel. Posted by: Dafydd ap Crwrthyw at May 14, 2022 07:02 PM (bW8dp) ------- Heh, stealing that Rodrigo. Posted by: ShainS at May 14, 2022 07:07 PM (93Arc) 201
> Pizza crust (for example) can be made almost as quickly as delivery. But it really tastes better if it is allowed a day or two for flavor to develop.
Pizza dough freezes very well, too. I usually make a megabatch of dough and divide it into pizza-sized chunks and put it in the freezer. Just take it out of the freezer in the morning when you want pizza for dinner and Bob's your uncle. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 07:08 PM (bW8dp) 202
Posted by: Common Tater at May 14, 2022 07:04 PM (a0d9C)
Thx for the encouragement. I guess I'll have to ask Jessie. My mother wasn't a big baker, but she's been gone since the 8o's and never taught me about baking, even though she was otherwise quite a good cook. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 07:08 PM (fF2aM) 203
I have developed a kind of Spidey Sense about things like what happened in Buffalo. It almost never is as it seems at first.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 14, 2022 07:09 PM (x8Wzq) 204
My husband found lots of problems with the research out there. Most of it was dates. Someone would show they were married at dix or maybe died then married. He would try to clear up as much as he could.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 14, 2022 07:09 PM (YynYJ) 205
Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 14, 2022 07:07 PM
Because we all know what the left will do and this thread is intended-I think- as a respite from the daily disaster. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 07:09 PM (fF2aM) 206
@elonmusk
5m Very important to fix your Twitter feed: 1. Tap home button. 2. Tap stars on upper right of screen. 3. Select “Latest tweets”. You are being manipulated by the algorithm in ways you don’t realize. Easy to switch back & forth to see the difference. Posted by: IrishEi at May 14, 2022 07:10 PM (VhE0u) 207
Posted by: PacosMojo at May 14, 2022 07:00 PM
Do you have a reading comprehension problem, asshole? Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 14, 2022 07:10 PM (G6DU0) 208
> Someone would show they were married at dix
Some got married at Fort Dix, some got married at Subic Bay. Heh. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 07:10 PM (bW8dp) 209
Ancestry has the sexes of some married couples and their offspring incorrect. It helps to have some independent corroboration.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 07:11 PM (sXGra) 210
Procrastination for the win. Mrs. Sock came home from lunch and I'm still on my phone. Time to get er done ....and it's raining.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 07:12 PM (FLIJ+) 211
Probably should apply the 72 Hour Rule on the Buffalo shooting.
How many previous times has the media trotted out the "right wing" narrative, only to have it turn out later that the dude listed "The Communist Manifesto" as his favorite book on his Facebook page? Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 07:06 PM yeah, but they timed it right...fodder (without facts) for all the talking head shows tomorrow morning, and the un-challenged "narrative" will get a full 24 hour news cycle by the time "right wing extremist" is de-bunked by end of business on Monday, they'll have already written the legislation Posted by: AltonJackson at May 14, 2022 07:12 PM (ENBF0) 212
Self-described white supremacist kills at least 10 in mass shooting in Buffalo while streaming on Twitch; Update: Tucker Carlson to blame
-------- Just like they called it The Trump Virus, he'll be known as the Ultra MAGA King Trump Shooter by Monday at noon EDT. Posted by: ShainS at May 14, 2022 07:12 PM (93Arc) 213
Growing up, my father had a framed picture of his great-grandfather. Before dad died, he gave it to me. Now i have a pic of my great-great grandfather. Thanks, Dad! (I always wanted it and neither of my sibs did, but i will will it to my nephew so he has a pic of his great-great-great grandfather.)
Posted by: SFGoth at May 14, 2022 07:12 PM (KAi1n) 214
I don't use a wheel to ply my spindle spun. I've got three ways. First is to use a Turkish spindle, which creates a center pull ball as you wind on. Second choice is a nostepinne, which also creates a center pull ball. Last is something similar to a nostepinne. Not sure if these are still being made. You wrap two strands together on it, then just spin in the opposite direction to ply. I found out about these from Sarah Swett's blog.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 14, 2022 07:13 PM (YynYJ) 215
Mattel just announced a Barbie with hearing aids and one that uses a wheelchair, along with a scrawny Ken and one with vitiligo.
No tranny Barbies yet, but you know they're coming. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 07:13 PM (bW8dp) 216
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 14, 2022 07:02 PM (FLIJ+)
That was very kindly as well as poetic. I would just as soon not stand before Him right away as I don't want to leave my husband and son and the church, I serve but it's really all about Romans 14:8. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 07:14 PM (fF2aM) Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 14, 2022 07:14 PM (x8Wzq) 218
by the time "right wing extremist" is de-bunked by end of business on Monday, they'll have already written the legislation
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 14, 2022 07:12 PM (ENBF0) ------- The legislation was written years ago and has been sitting in the filing cabinets of Schemer & Pelousy simply awaiting the right time to be removed & rubber-stamped. Posted by: ShainS at May 14, 2022 07:14 PM (93Arc) 219
Anybody have advice on starting oil painting as a hobby? Or a good YouTube channel to point me to? I have an easel, brush cleaner, and drop cloth.
Posted by: Plague Rat El Skanko at May 14, 2022 07:14 PM (Nd9N3) 220
The legislation was written years ago and has been sitting in the filing cabinets of Schemer & Pelousy simply awaiting the right time to be removed & rubber-stamped. Posted by: ShainS at May 14, 2022 07:14 PM yeah, I know. They'll have a 1,400 page bill ready for a floor vote by 11:00 AM Posted by: AltonJackson at May 14, 2022 07:15 PM (ENBF0) 221
19 My one hobby which has survived intact over the course of years is procrastination. Glad to offer up any tips and suggestions for those of you who may be thinking of taking it up
I'll ask tomorrow. Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 14, 2022 07:15 PM (m0zqP) 222
Mattel just announced a Barbie with hearing aids and one that uses a wheelchair, along with a scrawny Ken and one with vitiligo. No tranny Barbies yet, but you know they're coming Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia Pregnant Ken Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2022 07:16 PM (63Dwl) 223
Tonight's plan is more model building, mainly get stuff done on the HK Models 1/48 B-17F Flying Fortress. Model builders beware, they dropped the ball on a few things with this $100 kit.
The bombardier and navigator seats are very wrong, the old Monogram B-17G got them right. But it just takes a bit of scrap plastic to make it right. Then add lap belts and done. I have the first pressing which means things should be good but oddly the forward hatch where flight crew had to pull themselves in is undersized. Either leave the hatch open or shim it out. The Sperry top turret has a few issues. Namely the gun sight is represented by this block of plastic. Again, just an X-Acto knife and a tiny scrap of plastic will make a new sight. Alas the ammo feed chutes are also missing and there is no room to squeeze them in. The missing bags for the spent brass, unless you are doing a cut-away, is not an issue. The waist position machine guns need replacing. Eduard makes a set for the kit. Also the ammo boxes for the waist guns are to the aft of the windows and not installed like they are in a G. Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2022 07:16 PM (ZJ99k) 224
Braenyard, that sounds exactly the same! I've never looked into it because I have Alice in Wonderland coloring, but I'm the only one in the family to have it. My twin brother (twins run in the family) was not only very dark, but he had little body hair. When he was in VietNam kids would come up to him, trying to pluck the hair on his arms, and marvel that he had none. But I also haven't looked into it because from the family accounts, she was a tough person. She had a white lover, or husband, and when he left her, she tried to kill the children. Only my grandmother and one sibling survived.
Oddly, my grandmother saved her wedding ring and set it aside for me. So that's the ring I wear. Life is strange. Posted by: Wenda at May 14, 2022 07:16 PM (TK9+5) 225
215 Mattel just announced a Barbie with hearing aids and one that uses a wheelchair, along with a scrawny Ken and one with vitiligo.
No tranny Barbies yet, but you know they're coming. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 14, 2022 07:13 PM (bW8dp) --------- Morbidly Obese Barbie in String-Bikini with Beard, and Pregnant Ken with Strap-On Chest-Feeder, have got to already be in the pipeline. Posted by: ShainS at May 14, 2022 07:16 PM (93Arc) 226
Check your local Park 'n Rec for an art painting class.
My wife does a class a week. She is getting pretty good. Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 07:16 PM (jTmQV) 227
"No tranny Barbies yet, but you know they're coming.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia" Ain't nobody coming with this package. Posted by: Ken at May 14, 2022 07:17 PM (vrz2I) Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 07:17 PM (sXGra) 229
Pregnant Ken
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2022 07:16 PM (63Dwl) -------- Beaten by nanoseconds owing to my verbosity! Horde-mind ... Posted by: ShainS at May 14, 2022 07:17 PM (93Arc) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2022 07:17 PM (/U27+) 231
I'll ask tomorrow. Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 14, 2022 07:15 PM (m0zqP) LOL. Thanks. This thread-the last part was in need of some humor. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 07:18 PM (fF2aM) 232
Next week I might tell you about my hobby that costs a lot of time, money, and effort for about 10 minutes of action a month.
Posted by: Ken at May 14, 2022 07:19 PM (vrz2I) 233
Anna Puma, have you ever showcased any of your work here? I’d love to see it.
Posted by: RI Red at May 14, 2022 07:19 PM (A1aWg) 234
Anybody have advice on starting oil painting as a hobby? Or a good YouTube channel to point me to? I have an easel, brush cleaner, and drop cloth.
Posted by: Plague Rat El Skanko at May 14, 2022 07:14 PM (Nd9N3) My friend's Dad is a western artist who works with oil. My advice: Don't. Caveat: Unless you are blessed with an unusual amount of patience. Plus, the learning curve. But, the level of detail you get from oils is impressive. Just be prepared to be on one piece for a while. Me, I work quickly. Mostly pencil, charcoal, pen and pastel, but I will work in acrylics (which dry quickly). Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 14, 2022 07:19 PM (x8Wzq) 235
Darn it, off plastic sock.
Posted by: fd at May 14, 2022 07:20 PM (vrz2I) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 07:21 PM (fF2aM) Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 14, 2022 07:21 PM (YynYJ) Posted by: Braenyard at May 14, 2022 07:22 PM (sXGra) 239
Oils are longer lasting, but much more demanding.
If you are a complete novice, consider water colors or pastels to start. Posted by: gourmand du jour, font of unseriousness at May 14, 2022 07:22 PM (jTmQV) 240
>>Growing up, my father had a framed picture of his great-grandfather
I have a picture of my great grandmother. She and I were born in the same hospital in Germany. Not at the same time though. Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2022 07:22 PM (ZLI7S) 241
Drag Queen Barbie is just Ken in drag.
Posted by: fd at May 14, 2022 07:23 PM (vrz2I) 242
Sounds like a wonderful spinning wheel!
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 14, 2022 07:23 PM (YynYJ) 243
Posted by: Ken at May 14, 2022 07:19 PM (vrz2I)
I think you and Barbie should discuss it with a counselor, but not Heather. It's best not to go to relatives for counselling. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2022 07:24 PM (fF2aM) 244
This Buffalo supermarket shooting is shaping up to be everything the left has ever wanted in a shooting. They're collectively flicking beans and having on-air orgasms.
* I'm not saying this jokingly: White people were killed, so the left can care. Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 07:24 PM (DxFDO) 245
Notso, thanks for the info and the link!
Posted by: skywch at May 14, 2022 07:25 PM (uqhmb) 246
Anna a picture would be nice
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2022 07:25 PM (2JoB8) 247
195>180 Just watched a show on Netflix today-Our father-.
It's about a fertility Dr. 23 and me helped the siblings find each other. It's a sad but true story. Posted by: sidney at May 14, 2022 07:25 PM (itAo5) 248
Next week I might tell you about my hobby that costs a lot of time, money, and effort for about 10 minutes of action a month.
Posted by: Ken ** So how many years have you been married, Ken? Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 07:26 PM (DxFDO) 249
Acrylic might be an easier way to learn. I preferred oils, acrylic always felt weird to me, but a lot of people do some impressive work. NB: I haven't painted in years.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 14, 2022 07:28 PM (m0zqP) 250
Mattel just announced a Barbie with hearing aids and one that uses a wheelchair, along with a scrawny Ken and one with vitiligo.
** Remember when imagining things was part of childhood? Oh well. We fixed that for them. Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 07:28 PM (DxFDO) 251
We never actually got hitched. Not physically possible iykwim.
Posted by: Ken at May 14, 2022 07:31 PM (vrz2I) 252
Somewhere some weirdo on the internet probably made a Ken with custom tackle but I am definitely not going to look.
Posted by: Ken at May 14, 2022 07:34 PM (vrz2I) 253
It's neat for the situation itself to immediately show why it's a stupid idea.
Do little kids in wheelchairs with wheelchairs and vitiligo not get representation? If not, why not? Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 07:34 PM (DxFDO) 254
Dammit.
Do little kids in wheelchairs with HEARING AIDS and vitiligo not get representation? If not, why not? Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 07:34 PM (DxFDO) 255
More on the B-17F.
HK in order to save costs actually made the wings and fuselage common between their G and F kits. Which really is not a bad idea since the G was a refinement of the late Douglas built F models. What do I mean? The last Douglas build F block had the chin turret that epitomized the G models. Starting about B-17F-50-BO, all B-17s had fitted extra tanks in the outer wings for greater range, these were called Tokyo tanks and the easiest way to spot them is the presence of a vent at each wing tip. Also starting in mid-production, an astrodome for navigation was fitted in the nose compartment. B-17Fs like "Memphis Belle" and "Thumper" are early block Fs. Which means no Tokyo tanks and no astrodome. Luckily for the F model, the astrodome is an option you can add. The Tokyo tanks though are there which means the vents have to be filled in and thought given to erasing the outer wing tank filler caps and not destroy the rivet detail. Fun. Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2022 07:36 PM (ZJ99k) 256
Say, didn't someone shoot up a subway car full of people recently? I sort of remember something about that, but it seems like it dropped off of the national radar almost immediately.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 14, 2022 07:36 PM (DxFDO) 257
"Do little kids in wheelchairs with HEARING AIDS and vitiligo not get representation?"
There's a huge potential market for accessories so you can build your own crossdressing wheelchair bound hard of hearing chest feeding Barbie. Posted by: fd at May 14, 2022 07:38 PM (vrz2I) 258
Movie nood.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2022 07:39 PM (hVqGz) 259
I'm sitting here in SoCal, 80 degrees on the main channel with a couple of open bottles of wine watching the fit young things in their thong bikinis go by on their paddleboards as I enjoy my supermarket sushi.
What y'all doing today? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 07:43 PM (Vp7E/) 260
Any other genealogists in the Horde?
Posted by: RI Red at May 14, 2022 06:16 PM (A1aWg) Me! I have so many trees, lol. I will do anybody's family, just for fun. The most interesting line in mine is German, from Mecklenburg. This was my maternal grandmother's family. Her grandparents came over in the 1860s, so they are the "newest" Americans in my family. Using the German records on FamilySearch and Ancestry was really cool. We even found a distant relative that we (me and a cousin) communicated with over there. My husband's family is hispanic, so Spanish (in Mexico) records were also fun to do. The foreign records (church records) tend to give more info, which is helpful. Posted by: Bonnie Blue - no longer playing the game at May 14, 2022 07:58 PM (9qiMu) 261
I would work all weekend and frequently late into the evenings. Started referring to the wifey as a "genealogy widow." There was quite a challenge attempting to really discern reality, especially in the face of apparent contradictions -- a la Sherlock Holmes solving a mystery murder. Definitely an adrenaline high and addictive ...
Posted by: ShainS at May 14, 2022 07:05 PM (93Arc) Agree. That was me! I could not stop! I am on a bit of a break right now, let my membership lapse at Ancestry, but use the library version of My Heritage occasionally. Posted by: Bonnie Blue - no longer playing the game at May 14, 2022 08:02 PM (9qiMu) 262
259 I'm sitting here in SoCal, 80 degrees on the main channel with a couple of open bottles of wine watching the fit young things in their thong bikinis go by on their paddleboards as I enjoy my supermarket sushi.
What y'all doing today? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2022 07:43 PM (Vp7E/) I'm in SoCal, too, but I washed my car out front with a bucket, sponge and hose! Totally ignored the water shortage, lol. No bikini, so don't ask. Posted by: Bonnie Blue - no longer playing the game at May 14, 2022 08:04 PM (9qiMu) 263
You can also get 3-ply yarn from one single (with no waste) by chain plying.
tinyurl.com/Chain-plying Posted by: Ann Wilson, aka Empire 1 at May 14, 2022 08:05 PM (y0zVi) 264
I'm in SoCal, too, but I washed my car out front with a bucket, sponge and hose! Totally ignored the water shortage, lol. No bikini, so don't ask.
One pieces are good, too. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 14, 2022 08:07 PM (SchxB) 265
Lol
Of course use a the water you want in SCal! It is a big lie that the reservoirs aret empty They are just trying to fearmonger the sheeple ProTip. Rub ivermectin all over your car It will keep it clean for weeks Posted by: Steve Bannon at May 14, 2022 09:46 PM (o+T34) 266
Is this a new retard or an old retard?
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