True Conservative Evan McMullin: I Am a Pro-Life Utahan, Which Is Why I Strongly Oppose The Overruling of Roe V. Wade

Last month, Utah Democrats chose not to nominate an acknowledged Democrat candidate for Senate, choosing instead to endorse the " " " independent " " " candidate Evan McMullin.

In an extraordinary move on Saturday, Utah Democrats voted to back independent candidate Evan McMullin over Democrat Kael Weston to challenge the winner of the Republican primary later this year.
At the Utah Democratic Convention at Cottonwood High School in Murray, McMullin received 782 of the delegates' votes, around 57%, to Weston's 594 votes, preliminary results show.
It's an unprecedented measure for Democrats in a state with an all-Republican congressional delegation.

Evan McMullin was eager to accept his role as unacknoweleged Democrat candidate:

Evan McMullin
@EvanMcMullin
ICYMI -- Over the weekend, Utah Democrats chose not to nominate a candidate and instead, join our cross-partisan coalition.

"Cross-partisan."

He means that in this heavily-Republican state, the Democrats are running a stealth Democrat candidate named Evan McMullin who claims to be an "independent" and who they hope can attract enough liberal former Republicans -- NeverTrumpers -- to beat the actual Republican, Mike Lee.

This is the technique the Democrats and the NeverTrumpers will be using throughout November to put their NeverTrump candidates across in Republican states -- after Liz Cheney loses the Republican primary, she'll announce an "independent" bid and Democrats will support it. Democrats have already announced as much, and Liz Cheney's camp is already talking that up.

Lisa Murkowski is already talking about not running as a Republican candidate but as a "centrist."

And in 2024, of course NeverTrump will launch a major well-financed (by Democrats) "independent" spoiler candidacy to make sure the Democrat beats Trump (or DeSantis -- they hate both, because neither is a liberal neocon).

And of course AllahPundit and the rest of the NeverTrump snowflakes will continue whining that the Republican Party is exxxxcluuuuuding them just because they're joining with the opposing party and running against actual Republican Party candidates.

So Evan McMullin is running as the Democrat in Utah.

But also as the, giggle, "True Conservative." One with "principles." LOL.

So what's he going to say about the leaked Supreme Court opinion overruling Roe v. Wade?

Well what he says is that he's a "Pro-Live Utahan" -- he has Principles and Will Never Retreat from past declarations -- buuuuuut that this ruling will cause divisions and so we shouldn't do that. We should all be united as Patriots for America while we pass "sensible legislation" that protects "women's health" and just support Roe v. Wade in the meantime, as True Conservatives do.

Incredible. Incredible.

And what was Evan McMullin's previous stance on Roe v. Wade, when he was pretending to be the True Conservative alternative to Donald Trump?

Of course, when he was pretending to be More Conservative Than Thou, he was all in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade, and in fact staked that out as a major point of differentiation between himself and Trump. (The man who actually managed to get Roe v. Wade overturned.)

I would say my claim that the GOP Establishment's pretense of being "pro-life," and of being "True Conservative," while in fact being pro-abortion and very, very socially liberal is looking more and more solid.

Remember, they said we couldn't vote for Trump because he wasn't really pro-life. I didn't really believe Trump was pro-life myself, but I knew that the GOP Establishment itself wasn't pro-life. They just lie about this to get social conservatives to support their very unpopular agenda of Corporate Service and poorly-conceived and badly-led wars.

So I thought it was just remarkable that people who were obviously pro-abortion down to their very cosmopolitan-liberal cores were accusing Trump of being a pro-choice cosmopolitan liberal.

And then Trump turned out to be pro-life in practice! I don't know if he's really philosophically committed on the issue, but, get this: It doesn't matter. He made promises and he kept them. I don't care if a businessman believes in a contract he signs with me; I just care that he honors the terms of the contract.

And Trump honored his contractual agreements a hell of a lot more than the "True Conservatives" of the GOP Establishment ever did.

Meanwhile, Mollie Hemingway reminds us that Mitt Romney is refusing to endorse sitting Senator Mike Lee, thereby signaling he really supports his fellow liberal NeverTrumper Evan McMullin.

A little reminder of the liberal Mitt Romney's own history here: He ran for governor in Massachusetts stating that he fully supported abortion rights and Roe v. Wade. When he ran for President just a few years later, he claimed he'd lied to those Massachusetts yokels and had always been pro-life and against Roe v. Wade. Why, he'd been a stealth "severe conservative" all along, you see!

And yet he, like most of the rest of the pro-choice GOP Establishment, were horrified by Trump's position on abortion. Not that he was actually pro-choice, but that he would actually call their collective bluff and govern as a pro-life president.

And so now this True Conservative -- I mean, Severe Conservative -- is continuing to let Mike Lee dangle as the pro-abortion Democrat Evan McMullin threatens to win the seat.

Your daily reminder that the Conservative, Inc. grifter class was absolutely filled with urban cosmopolitan liberals who just saw conservatives and Republicans as marks for grift:

As the GOP has moved decisively away from this type of media-beloved consultant -- Schmidt, Nicolle Wallace, that weird dude who is with Arnold's former wife, etc. -- it has become a much stronger, more multiracial and more working class party. Fascinating to observe. https://t.co/HtYE4d7gSn
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) May 3, 2022

As I've said a thousand times: It is the fact that 80% of the "elite" of the party's apparatchiks were barely-disguised liberals that explains why no matter how often Republicans "win" elections, we never seem to actually win any policy victories. The GOP Establishment class of liberal gate-keepers makes sure that the conservative agenda can never actually gain any purchase in government or culture.

Posted by: Ace at 12:15 PM

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1 He's a breakfast sandwich.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2022 12:15 PM (Qy7kP)

2 Is today Cinco de Quatro or is that tomorrow? I'm confused with all these new holidays.

Posted by: Mishdog at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (MS8AA)

3 I called the otters

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (Qy7kP)

4 Dreamy

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (QYPq3)

5 Good to see everything is going ok.

Posted by: klaftern at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (taPSh)

6 The Ghost of Endor Lives!

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (v9ZzX)

7 He is the Charlie Crist of Arlen Specters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (LvTSG)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (IXZGh)

9 >>Is today Cinco de Quatro or is that tomorrow? I'm confused with all these new holidays.

well i guess today is Cinco de Quatro.

Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:17 PM (0G13K)

10 Hear me- the blood must flow. We cannot afford to close the Planned Parenthood Pipeline and become dependent on Ukrainian baby parts.

Posted by: True Conservative Evan McMullin at May 04, 2022 12:17 PM (kT5Bb)

11 McMullin is actually running as a Dem as a part of a "unity" concept on the ballot?

Oy vey.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:17 PM (DU+/6)

12 Hey McMullin.

FUCK OFF.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:17 PM (IXZGh)

13 UltraMaga sounds like a Transformer.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2022 12:17 PM (rTgby)

14 Evan McMullin is the trans partisan candidate. He goes across party lines. Trans all the way.

Posted by: Mishdog at May 04, 2022 12:18 PM (MS8AA)

15 the fourth season of Arrested Development was bad, but they had a good joke about Cinco de Quatro. Lucille hated Cinco de Mayo so she made up her own holiday, Cinco de Quatro, so that all the liquor and party supplies would be sold out by Cinco de Mayo.

Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:18 PM (0G13K)

16 Indeed Trump actually delivering (or putting forth full effort to deliver) for his constituents has always been a strong point, perhaps his strongest point.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2022 12:18 PM (b2nrj)

17 Well what he says is that he's a "Pro-Live Utahan" -- he has Principles and Will Never Retreat from past declarations -- buuuuuut that this ruling will cause divisions and so we shouldn't do that. We should all be united as Patriots for America while we pass "sensible legislation" that protects "women's health" and just support Roe v. Wade in the meantime, as True Conservatives do.
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No. We need division. More division. The government is entirely unified, and it's unified against the people. Division is one thing we actually DO need.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:18 PM (DU+/6)

18 Evans isn't even a RINO, he is a wolf in sheep clothing

Posted by: Skip's phone at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (wOYq+)

19 These consultants would tell R's not to go to a prolife rally because it lowers the Presidency don't fight back just roll over and take it.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (dKiJG)

20 >>>5 Good to see everything is going ok.

is it?

That's reassuring. I'm always worried.

plus i'm leaving for Ukraine soon

#DoneTalking

Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (0G13K)

21 17 Well what he says is that he's a "Pro-Live Utahan" -- he has Principles and Will Never Retreat from past declarations -- buuuuuut that this ruling will cause divisions and so we shouldn't do that. We should all be united as Patriots for America while we pass "sensible legislation" that protects "women's health" and just support Roe v. Wade in the meantime, as True Conservatives do.
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No. We need division. More division. The government is entirely unified, and it's unified against the people. Division is one thing we actually DO need.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:18 PM (DU+/6)

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But he's a former CIA operative...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (LvTSG)

22 20 plus i'm leaving for Ukraine soon

#DoneTalking
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (0G13K)

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And you don't even speak Ukrainian! How brave! How stunning!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (LvTSG)

23 I will say, though, that Evan McMullin penning "The Conservative Case for Retaining Roe v. Wade" was an unexpected spoiler.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (DU+/6)

24 Has Biden blamed Inflation on the looming Baby Parts Shortage, yet?

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (v9ZzX)

25 7 He is the Charlie Crist of Arlen Specters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (LvTSG)

And the Jim Jeffords of Lincoln Chaffees.

Cha!

Posted by: Sting at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (PiwSw)

26 I didn't really believe Trump was pro-life myself

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Neither did I.

Trump - Donald Trump - may be the guy who delivers the end of Roe.

What a country.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (sX1BW)

27 "True Conservative Evan McMullin: I Am a Pro-Life Utahan, Which Is Why I Strongly Oppose The Overruling of Roe V. Wade"

Also Evan McMullin: I'm not gay. But I will grab Romney's schlong and milk him like a cow.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (ifHdv)

28 The Ghost of Endor is with us on this most Star Wars of days!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (a3Q+t)

29 What if your're UltraUltraMagaMaga, what then?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (rTgby)

30 And then Trump turned out to be pro-life in practice! I don't know if he's really philosophically committed on the issue, but, get this: It doesn't matter. He made promises and he kept them. I don't care if a businessman believes in a contract he signs with me; I just care that he honors the terms of the contract.
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100%. Whether you believe it or are just doing what you need to do to advance, if you deliver the goods then you deliver the goods.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (DU+/6)

31 >>>plus i'm leaving for Ukraine soon

#DoneTalking

Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (0G13K)

May the Frum be with you.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (QYPq3)

32 That's reassuring. I'm always worried.

plus i'm leaving for Ukraine soon

#DoneTalking
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (0G13K)
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Have fun storming the castle!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (YIVH2)

33 30 100%. Whether you believe it or are just doing what you need to do to advance, if you deliver the goods then you deliver the goods.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (DU+/6)

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But he said pussy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

34 Of course, when he was pretending to be More Conservative Than Thou, he was all in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade, and in fact staked that out as a major point of differentiation between himself and Trump. (The man who actually managed to get Roe v. Wade overturned.)

Ace. are you implying that McMullin is a lying sack of shit?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (IXZGh)

35 I am seeing a version of this in my burg. Democrats are supporting leftist candidates in Republican primaries. They know no Dem can win as a Democrat. But get him or her running as an R and they will win. And since primaries have such a low turnout, just a few hundred well coordinated votes like that will achieve their goals.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (JwPqM)

36 It's MormonTown, Jim.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (v9ZzX)

37 >>Also Evan McMullin: I'm not gay.

he's actually not

i know that's hard to believe but apparently he's banging every stupid piece of liberal cooze in DC. Like Jim Acosta.

Which is also hard to believe but there you go

Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (0G13K)

38 I'm so secure in my pro-life stance I will literally abort a 9 month term baby on TV right now!

And later I'll show how confident I am in my masculinity that I can blow a hobo behind the 7-11 and still be 100% straight!

Posted by: Evan McMullen at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (ESjRY)

39 34 Of course, when he was pretending to be More Conservative Than Thou, he was all in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade, and in fact staked that out as a major point of differentiation between himself and Trump. (The man who actually managed to get Roe v. Wade overturned.)

Ace. are you implying that McMullin is a lying sack of shit?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (IXZGh)

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That would imply that McMuffin isn't principled. Have you no shame, sir?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

40 "former CIA operative"

Posted by: klaftern at May 04, 2022 12:22 PM (taPSh)

41 As I've said a thousand times: It is the fact that 80% of the "elite" of the party's apparatchiks were barely-disguised liberals that explains why no matter how often Republicans "win" elections, we never seem to actually win any policy victories. The GOP Establishment class of liberal gate-keepers makes sure that the conservative agenda can never actually gain any purchase in government or culture.
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So an octo-decimation. These terms are acceptable.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:22 PM (DU+/6)

42 >>>What if your're UltraUltraMagaMaga, what then?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (rTgby)

What what in the butt butt

Posted by: Fang Fang at May 04, 2022 12:22 PM (QYPq3)

43 Who IS this dipshit Mc Muffin?

WTF, Utah?

Every incumbent out.

I would vote for randos out of a phone book, if they still exist, than any politician that has been around.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 04, 2022 12:22 PM (D2f58)

44 15 the fourth season of Arrested Development was bad, but they had a good joke about Cinco de Quatro. Lucille hated Cinco de Mayo so she made up her own holiday, Cinco de Quatro, so that all the liquor and party supplies would be sold out by Cinco de Mayo.

Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:18 PM (0G13K)

I actually think this was what Barry the Lightworker was referring to when he made his gaffe. It doesn't make him look better, it just means he watches too much TV to be the Leader of the Free World.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2022 12:22 PM (PiwSw)

45 >>>plus i'm leaving for Ukraine soon

#DoneTalking

Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (0G13K)

No Russian shelf will be safe.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 12:22 PM (SH2Zi)

46 I would say my claim that the GOP Establishment's pretense of being "pro-life," and of being "True Conservative," while in fact being pro-abortion and very, very socially liberal is looking more and more solid.

ah so you've met my husband

he was SO UPSET yesterday. I couldn't believe it. he talks about how Roe was so wrong! but now ..

I think it was something at Penn that happened. it's like some kind of seed is planted? You Are Elite. Elites Have Certain Thoughts. I dunno. for me it didn't take I'm too ornery

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 04, 2022 12:22 PM (j9HX3)

47 So, who's more pathetic in this whole scenario:

1- Evan McMuffin, who will publicly debase himself for relatively small amounts of money in a futile quest for elected officers

2- Utah Democrat Party, which is so pathetic they think recruiting a guy like McMuffin is their best shot at victory

3- Utah voters, that both parties nationally must think are completely retarded, because this is always discussed as a serious issue

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 04, 2022 12:22 PM (JCZqz)

48 >>i know that's hard to believe but apparently he's banging every stupid piece of liberal cooze in DC. Like Jim Acosta.

How does my nut taste?

Posted by: Michael Avenatti at May 04, 2022 12:22 PM (v9ZzX)

49 37 >>Also Evan McMullin: I'm not gay.

he's actually not

i know that's hard to believe but apparently he's banging every stupid piece of liberal cooze in DC. Like Jim Acosta.

Which is also hard to believe but there you go
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (0G13K)

Jim Acosta? I never thought to say this, but ace is clearly fake news.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2022 12:22 PM (b2nrj)

50 >>>I actually think this was what Barry the Lightworker was referring to when he made his gaffe. It doesn't make him look better, it just means he watches too much TV to be the Leader of the Free World.

no you have the order of things reversed, Arrested Development was making a joke about Obama's verbal error

Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (0G13K)

51 he's actually not

i know that's hard to believe but apparently he's banging every stupid piece of liberal cooze in DC. Like Jim Acosta.

Which is also hard to believe but there you go

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Could still be gay.

Or he may just be playing us all for some action.

That I could respect.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (sX1BW)

52 Egg Mcmullin? Is that POS still around???

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (yVAdy)

53 Was just starting to read a article on the Republicans running for Pa Governor and its saying each is trying to out conservative the others.
This year to start its a Republican year better than a very long time so no point in voting for even a luke warm candidate.

Posted by: Skip's phone at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (wOYq+)

54 Well what he says is that he's a "Pro-Live Utahan" -- he has Principles and Will Never Retreat from past declarations -- buuuuuut that this ruling will cause divisions and so we shouldn't do that.

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Turn the country over to the thugs and rioters!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (FVME7)

55 And then Trump turned out to be pro-life in practice! I don't know if he's really philosophically committed on the issue, but, get this: It doesn't matter. He made promises and he kept them. I don't care if a businessman believes in a contract he signs with me; I just care that he honors the terms of the contract.
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I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he used to be lukewarm on the subject. It wasn't something he thought about much because it just wasn't part of his daily experience. As he found out more about it due to political necessity, his thinking evolved. It happens.

Now he's much more pro-life because he's discovered the alternative is morally repugnant on so many levels, even for a guy who may be morally questionable.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (YIVH2)

56 He is the Charlie Crist of Arlen Specters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (LvTSG)

I snorted out loud.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (yQpMk)

57 I'm having trouble understanding how McMullen can possibly claim to be principled even with his fingers crossed.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (eGTCV)

58 What the left and some on the right don't get is that if Roe is overturned it will merely revert back to the states. There is not a chance in hades that NY CA etc. are going to ban abortion. But they need to somehow rally their dejected base so nobody and their media allies will mention this.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (GwxCX)

59 is it?

That's reassuring. I'm always worried.

plus i'm leaving for Ukraine soon

#DoneTalking
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM

Copy, Red Leader.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (h6/n7)

60 What if your're UltraUltraMagaMaga, what then?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (rTgby)

Then she gives you her number.

https://tinyurl.com/yy8f8sf7

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (SH2Zi)

61 >>Jim Acosta? I never thought to say this, but ace is clearly fake news.

i know it's hard to believe. It took me years to come to terms with this too.

not only are they not gay but they are pulling more p***y than you or i ever will

Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (0G13K)

62 There have been four GOP leaders of consequence in the last 40 years, Reagan, Giuliani, Gingrich and Trump, that's it and If the leaked SCOTUS ruling holds, Trump will have achieved what every GOP politician has claimed they wanted since RvW was forced upon the nation.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (rTgby)

63 Egg McMuffin, now with double the cheese!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM (FVME7)

64 The real miracle here is how McMuffin managed to step on his dick this hard. The guy legendarily has an 'innie'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM (V6f9+)

65 As I've said a thousand times: It is the fact that 80% of the "elite" of the party's apparatchiks were barely-disguised liberals that explains why no matter how often Republicans "win" elections, we never seem to actually win any policy victories.

Posted by: Ace at 12:15 PM

I think you're 15% low.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM (s9rQL)

66 Who will rid us of these "true conservatives"? The purge can't come fast enough.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM (0OmEj)

67 Funniest part of this article is that the Dem convention was in a high School. Lol.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM (JwPqM)

68 >>they are pulling more p***y than you or i ever will

Well. Perhaps you.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM (v9ZzX)

69 i know that's hard to believe but apparently he's banging every stupid piece of liberal cooze in DC. Like Jim Acosta.

lord byron tho I'm just saying

banged a LOT of chicks too

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM (j9HX3)

70 So who Mormons better -- Egg McMuffin, Boneless Pork Rectum, or Harry Reid?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM (PiwSw)

71 Not that Egg McMuffin has a chance, but I surely hope Mike Lee has the insight to heavily spotlight the way McMuffin cheated all of his campaign staff out of their pay.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM (trdmm)

72 Ace is going to Ukraine to pick up some military hardware, a
nice APC

Posted by: Skip's phone at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM (wOYq+)

73 On second thought, let's not go to Utah. Tis a silly place.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2022 12:25 PM (Qy7kP)

74 61 >>Jim Acosta? I never thought to say this, but ace is clearly fake news.

i know it's hard to believe. It took me years to come to terms with this too.

not only are they not gay but they are pulling more p***y than you or i ever will
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (0G13K)

https://tinyurl.com/2p96a2sm

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2022 12:25 PM (b2nrj)

75 i know that's hard to believe but apparently he's banging every stupid piece of liberal cooze in DC. Like Jim Acosta.

Which is also hard to believe but there you go
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (0G13K)

But he's no Brian Stelter.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 04, 2022 12:25 PM (yQpMk)

76 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2022 12:25 PM (arJlL)

77 Eh, McMuffin could run as "Mormon" for his party preference in Utah and get 45% of the vote without having to say anything.

Posted by: Economic at May 04, 2022 12:25 PM (qvB5U)

78 i know that's hard to believe but apparently he's banging every stupid piece of liberal cooze in DC. Like Jim Acosta.

If he is banging Jim Acosta, then he is gay, right?
Oh, wait, Acosta is a.big pussy so...

I get it.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 04, 2022 12:25 PM (D2f58)

79 I screen capped the "shout your abortion" merchandise in case it gets disappeared from the internet.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 04, 2022 12:25 PM (44ww/)

80 Imagine being born on Planet Evan after you die and having to worship a human penis.

Posted by: The Vooter at May 04, 2022 12:25 PM (sQTrb)

81 Turn the country over to the thugs and rioters!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (FVME7)

Congress has May off.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 12:25 PM (SH2Zi)

82 But he's no Brian Stelter.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 04, 2022 12:25 PM (yQpMk)

*cue theme music from "Shaft"*

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (PiwSw)

83 It is the fact that 80% of the "elite" of the party's apparatchiks were barely-disguised liberals

The people the GOP has fought the hardest against in the last 10 years - Donald Trump, Kris Kobach, Joe Miller, and Roy Moore.

Note on this list: Nazi Pelosi, Cuck Schemer, Baracka O'Bastard, or Joe Two Finger Biden

Posted by: Evan McMullen at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (ESjRY)

84 Why is Ace being so cruel to poor Evan?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (XIJ/X)

85 Follow up from the last thread.

The GOP discipline in the Florida legislature is pretty interesting. One senator voted against the anti-grooming law and she was made to sponsor the bill killing Reedy Creek.

I know DeSantis isn't doing it alone, but the FL.GOP is keeping their votes in line and killing any procedure nonsense the Dems attempt.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (F+Li4)

86 Stupid McMullen sock

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (ESjRY)

87 USNtakim. That is what the GOPe is thinking, without the scare quotes. If they can no longer just get votes by "you don't want the fully evil Democrat do you?" they'd like to get rid of actual icky, pro-file, often Xtian rube conservatives.

Posted by: PaleRider, Simple Irredeemable at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (3cGpq)

88 He is the Charlie Crist of Arlen Specters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (LvTSG)

We can only hope that he is the Jim Jones of the neo-rinos.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (s9rQL)

89 Ace is going over there for the Ukranian snizz.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (Qy7kP)

90 Cinco de Quattro translates as Fifth of Fourth. True Scotsmen have been celebrating since Sunday, in recognition of the Firth of Forth.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (a3Q+t)

91 Murdering the unborn is not in the "center" of any possible ideological scale. De-facto and De-jure State monopoly over entire industries (education, Healthcare, energy, etc) is not in the "center" of any possible ideological scale.

You're not centrists. You're tyrants who balk at the label "Tyrant".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (6FeV1)

92 I'm reminded that Biden was the "independent" candidate. Remember, restoring norms, Mr Moderate, "Scranton Joe". It's all working out so we'll for our country, amirite?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (ifHdv)

93 he's actually not

i know that's hard to believe but apparently he's banging every stupid piece of liberal cooze in DC. Like Jim Acosta.

Which is also hard to believe but there you go
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM

Never underestimate the power of power to poon.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (GwxCX)

94 Ace in 2016: I went to the drive-thru and asked for 2 Even McMullins. She said that there was no possible path to the White House. I said I was aware.

That last little line always cracks me up for some reason.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (44ww/)

95 If Roe v. Wade is overruled, conservatives will find out just how pro-choice many of their ostensibly pro-life politicians are. The Supreme Court's takeover of this area has made a lot of virtue signaling and posturing possible.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (ppBhU)

96 my guess is MUTT aint running for re-election

he did the same thing here in MA

ran for one term and when he had to face a real opponent, he chickened out

Posted by: REDACTED at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (us2H3)

97 Tater! He's a bad mother spudder - shut your mouf!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (HsAzN)

98 Coming to the sad realization that Mormans are the most feckless group.

Morman = Milquetoast Muslim

Posted by: Regular joe at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (nnp+f)

99
i know that's hard to believe but apparently he's banging every stupid piece of liberal cooze in DC. Like Jim Acosta.

Which is also hard to believe but there you go

Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (0G13K)

Yeah, but they are all essentially of the caliber of Dr. Jill. Pass.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (SH2Zi)

100 "join our cross-partisan coalition."

Well hell, why hold an election if all parties have coalesced?

Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (qpX6U)

101 Ace is going over there for the Ukranian snizz.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM

Ewoks get all the hawt chicks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (h6/n7)

102 Why is Ace being so cruel to poor Evan?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM

Because he deserves it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (a3Q+t)

103
i know it's hard to believe. It took me years to come to terms with this too.

not only are they not gay but they are pulling more p***y than you or i ever will
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (0G13K)

This seems fitting......

https://youtu.be/R7xtYIJgPjg

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (IXZGh)

104 Egg McMuffin: He's pro-life but he's not pro-life pro-life.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (FVME7)

105 If they all run this gambit won't it be kind of obvious and stupid? Not that obvious and stupid has ever hurt them before. If we had an opposition party to the leftists they could run easy to make ads on all this and lump all the traitors into one ridiculing them. But we don't.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (rWGyP)

106 Ace is going over there for the Ukranian snizz.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (Qy7kP)

I hope he doesn't wake up in a bathtub full of ice.
Wait, do Ewoks have kidneys?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (eGTCV)

107 Never underestimate the power of power to poon.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (GwxCX)

Sure, but what "power" does Eggamoobymuffin have?

Posted by: spindrift at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (h5TKJ)

108 Trump is the only president to ever speak at the March For Life.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (ZLI7S)

109 I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he used to be lukewarm on the subject. It wasn't something he thought about much because it just wasn't part of his daily experience. As he found out more about it due to political necessity, his thinking evolved. It happens.

Now he's much more pro-life because he's discovered the alternative is morally repugnant on so many levels, even for a guy who may be morally questionable.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM (YIVH2)
++++
Or the radicalization of the pro-abortion camp pushed him in that direction. That is what happened to me. I was ambivalent on the topic until I saw an article in the NYT in 2004. It was so repugnant that it made me pump the brakes and consider that maybe I shouldn't be ambivalent on that topic. After a few years of reconsidering the topic, I ended up where I am now.

That article, should you want to wade through the depths of perversion and evil that it describes, is available here:
https://archive.ph/86ild

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (DU+/6)

110 Well hell, why hold an election if all parties have coalesced?

I've been wondering this almost my whole life

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (j9HX3)

111 Even McMullin is the Taint just south of the ass crack of life.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (w5kDF)

112 Yeah, look at all those great "independents" in our Congress today. How they working out?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (ifHdv)

113 >>Wait, do Ewoks have kidneys?

They actually have 7.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (v9ZzX)

114 "Cinco de Quatro"

4

Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (qpX6U)

115 Never underestimate the power of power to poon.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (GwxCX)

He's speaking truth to power snizz.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (SH2Zi)

116 Never underestimate the power of power to poon.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (GwxCX)

Sure, but what "power" does Eggamoobymuffin have?
Posted by: spindrift at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM

He's a candidate for senate. That's enough for some political groupies to throw some fartclam his way.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (GwxCX)

117 107 Never underestimate the power of power to poon.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (GwxCX)

Sure, but what "power" does Eggamoobymuffin have?
Posted by: spindrift at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (h5TKJ)

The power to dupe leftards?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (b2nrj)

118 >>Never underestimate the power of power to poon.

It's compelling.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (v9ZzX)

119 100%. Whether you believe it or are just doing what you need to do to advance, if you deliver the goods then you deliver the goods.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (DU+/6)

"By their fruits ye shall know them."

Maybe someone should point that out to McMuffin, he may never have hear it before.

Posted by: Bete at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (qvB5U)

120 Never underestimate the power of power to poon.

This, in many ways, is the story of DOCTOR JILL.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (ZGrMX)

121 I'm actually shocked the court did this, even the Cons. I applaud them.

It's time to rip the band aid off, fight it out, and let the court go back to its original function. They are not lawmakers! Congress, do you job and quit passing it off to the court and the bureaucrats!

Posted by: pj at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (G1dq6)

122 113 >>Wait, do Ewoks have kidneys?

They actually have 7.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (v9ZzX)

But 5 of them were taken from other people.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (b2nrj)

123 Tater! He's a bad mother spudder - shut your mouf!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (HsAzN)

He's doin' yer girlfriend. That's sumpthin you can't believe.

- - LL Cool J

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (IXZGh)

124 If your political movement to save America includes emergency sightseeing cruises to Alaska...you might be a conservative.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (EFkGP)

125 Sure, but what "power" does Eggamoobymuffin have?
Posted by: spindrift at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (h5TKJ)

The power to bilk NeverTrumpers out of their money.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (HsAzN)

126 There is an organized apparatus that is working against us. Call it Nevertrump/Dems or Uniparty. I don't care.

There are only a handful of people on whom you can rely. And even those people are only human. They make mistakes.

We are in a bad place. If you don't pray/don't believe, might I ask you to consider the chance that it may help. I mean, how likely was it that Don J. Trump would try to carry out his campaign promises ? But you took a shot there... and it almost worked, a little sorta, and that was faith in a man. All I'm saying is: it will take you less effort than voting Trump, to say God Almighty please forgive my Country its waywardness and help us in this our hour of desperate need.

Posted by: I'm not Billy Graham or the Pope but its worth a shot anyway . . . at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (xkCZo)

127 He's a candidate for senate. That's enough for some political groupies to throw some fartclam his way.

So candidates get anal, and if they win they get vag?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (ZGrMX)

128 If Roe v. Wade is overruled, conservatives will find out just how pro-choice many of their ostensibly pro-life politicians are. The Supreme Court's takeover of this area has made a lot of virtue signaling and posturing possible.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (ppBhU)

At the state level that is true. However, a lot of states already have laws in place that activate pro-life laws once RvW is toast.

Posted by: WiNO - Against Uniparty Baby Killers and Groomers at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (EpDzw)

129 Well hell, why hold an election if all parties have coalesced?
Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (qpX6U)
++++
You're getting it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (DU+/6)

130 Trump is the only president to ever speak at the March For Life.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM

Yep.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (GwxCX)

131 Well what he says is that he's a "Pro-Life Utahan"

Arbeit macht frei.

Posted by: t-bird at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (7uHaa)

132 Beyond the fact President Trump is evidently the cleanest politician since Cato, his role in making this possible is simply impossible to overlook. The chorus of National Review types insisting that any Republican could have brought it about is further proof most conservative "leaders" aren't trustworthy. Compared to Trump, most are outright treacherous.

Posted by: trev006 at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (J2emI)

133 84 Why is Ace being so cruel to poor Evan?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (XIJ/X)

Because VDH demands it.

Posted by: Bete at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (qvB5U)

134 @60

>>Then she gives you her number. https://tinyurl.com/yy8f8sf7

Hey now!!

I wonder if I told her she had a dynamite body she'd hold it against me.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM (rTgby)

135 Never underestimate the power of power to poon.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (GwxCX)

Now you tell me.

Posted by: Johnny Depp at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM (D2f58)

136 What was it? 2004? Democrats ran a bunch of fake-conservative vets - who then proceeded to vote lock-step party line.

Posted by: 29Victor at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM (BJKQV)

137 1 He's a breakfast sandwich.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

He's a breakfast sandwich and a floor wax!

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM (gZgHO)

138 The power to dupe leftards?

[McMuffin] That's right baby, I'm back 12 whole inches of Trumping hating sexual power...in my pants.

[Karen McWinemom] Wait a minute...that's like 6 inches.

[McMuffin] Just wait for the inflation to hit baby.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM (ESjRY)

139 I saw Power to Poon open for Ted Nugent at The Bomb Factory in '82.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM (IXZGh)

140 Alternate Theory: perhaps Lee called Romney and told him, "Please, for the love of God, do NOT endorse me."

Posted by: Armchair Sinner at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM (Nig2g)

141 Did the semi-sentient breakfast sandwich ever pay off his last campaign's debts?

Magic 8 Ball sez: Not on your life.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM (HsAzN)

142 Point of Order.

Pulling and Paying For are not the same. These types will find a rent girl for 10k to 20k a month to flick their soft micropeens and be their eye candy.

Posted by: The Vooter at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM (sQTrb)

143 After a few years of reconsidering the topic, I ended up where I am now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (DU+/6)

I am remorseful for my short-sightedness. It took me having kids to wake up and reconsider my ambivalence.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (SH2Zi)

144 Well. Perhaps you.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 12:24 PM

Every girl crazy 'bout a sharp-blinged Croc?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (a3Q+t)

145 If Roe v. Wade is overruled, conservatives will find out just how pro-choice many of their ostensibly pro-life politicians are. The Supreme Court's takeover of this area has made a lot of virtue signaling and posturing possible.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (ppBhU)

At the state level that is true. However, a lot of states already have laws in place that activate pro-life laws once RvW is toast.
Posted by: WiNO - Against Uniparty Baby Killers and Groomers at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM

Abortion will still be legal in many many states. It merely takes the power of the fed away from deciding it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (GwxCX)

146 "By their fruits ye shall know them."

-
That's the new Colorado state motto.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (FVME7)

147 Trump is the only president to ever speak at the March For Life.
Posted by: JackStraw

My wife and I heard him speak there. It was fantastic.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (bJxw1)

148 Evan McMullin sounds like a familiar name. I thought we had that guy all sorted out a few years ago. Yet still he persisted.

Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (qpX6U)

149 Basically the Democrats pitch is "look, if they take away your "right" to kill babies, what else will they take".

*blink*

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (ifHdv)

150 128 If Roe v. Wade is overruled, conservatives will find out just how pro-choice many of their ostensibly pro-life politicians are. The Supreme Court's takeover of this area has made a lot of virtue signaling and posturing possible.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (ppBhU)

At the state level that is true. However, a lot of states already have laws in place that activate pro-life laws once RvW is toast.
Posted by: WiNO - Against Uniparty Baby Killers and Groomers at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM (EpDzw)

=======

And it literally ceases to be a federal issue. Pro-choice Republicans at the federal level actually get decreased pressure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (LvTSG)

151 Could someone explain this thinking to me?. Leftists on another website are calling people who are Christians "hypocrites" for voting for Donald Trump. I explained that we weren't voting for a religious leader or a Savior or someone to be our son in law, but for someone to "make America great again" with the policies he wanted to pursue. I don't see how hypocrisy comes into it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (fF2aM)

152 55 candidates in OH and IN sought and gained Trump's endorsement--not McConnell, not the National Review, not any other GOP "elder"

They won last night.

The GOPe isn't trying to take the party back-- they're trying to burn it down before they get evicted.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (00YpK)

153 When is Sneako El Bordero?

Posted by: Pedro de Pacas and Man in a big green van at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (ql1oC)

154 I don't want bipartisanship. I want my side to destroy the other side and hold the heads on spikes HIGH OVER TOP when declaring victory.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (IXZGh)

155 Utahan

That word's never quite worked for me. Utites would be better.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (HsAzN)

156 This is the technique the Democrats and the NeverTrumpers will be using throughout November to put their NeverTrump candidates across in Republican states -- after Liz Cheney loses the Republican primary, she'll announce an "independent" bid and Democrats will support it. Democrats have already announced as much, and Liz Cheney's camp is already talking that up."

I believe this is actually a huge admission of the failure of the Democrat Party, as an institution. Candidates are now emerging who think their best shot is just to say "I'm aginst' alla that!" without actually committing to being part of anything. And Dem fundraisers are admitting that their own people have no chance, so they're giving these no-nothings financial support.

But why do they think actual Democrat Party voters (especially black and hispanics) will go to the trouble to show up and vote for these people.? Hot Tip - they won't.

btw who knows about Murkowsky in Alaska, it's a weird place on the marge of Lake Lebarge.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (trdmm)

157 62 There have been four GOP leaders of consequence in the last 40 years, Reagan, Giuliani, Gingrich and Trump, that's it and If the leaked SCOTUS ruling holds, Trump will have achieved what every GOP politician has claimed they wanted since RvW was forced upon the nation.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2022 12:23 PM

Are you nuts?!? George Bush Jr got us into two everlasting wars and greatly expanded the federal tyrannical police state, McCain threw an election and kept an unconstitutional law, Boehner and Ryan....

Oh, you meant positive contributions. My bad.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (JCZqz)

158 I was going to comment but this looks like a boys only thread.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (Y+l9t)

159 136 What was it? 2004? Democrats ran a bunch of fake-conservative vets - who then proceeded to vote lock-step party line.

Posted by: 29Victor at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM (BJKQV)

=========

They do it every few cycles. Tammy Duckworth is an example. Elected in 2012.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

160 plus i'm leaving for Ukraine soon

#DoneTalking

Posted by: ace

I promise to follow you every step of the way, your reports from the field of course.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (gZgHO)

161 I'm actually shocked the court did this, even the Cons. I applaud them.

It's time to rip the band aid off, fight it out, and let the court go back to its original function. They are not lawmakers! Congress, do you job and quit passing it off to the court and the bureaucrats!
Posted by: pj at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM

What would make me LMAO is Schumer and Pelosi passing a federal bill creating a right to abortion citing the Commerce Clause like they do for every other unconstitutional thing they do. Then someone challenges the law and the Court overturns Wickard.* That would be the ultimate own goal.

*Hey, a Moron can dream, right?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (h6/n7)

162 He's a candidate for senate. That's enough for some political groupies to throw some fartclam his way.

So candidates get anal, and if they win they get vag?
Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:30 PM

Well, I uhh, Umm

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (GwxCX)

163 It's like they're a bunch of nasty pool sh'ers who keep sh'ng in the pool but now don't understand why their photo and name are tacked up on the wall behind the front desk at the pool with the caption, "don't let this pool sh'er in the pool because he will sh in the pool"

Posted by: banana Dream at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (rWGyP)

164 155 Utahan

That word's never quite worked for me. Utites would be better.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (HsAzN)

Yutes. Like two Yutes went into da sack'o'suds.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (trdmm)

165 Never underestimate the power of power to poon.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:27 PM (GwxCX)

Absolutely.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (VwHCD)

166 155 Utahan

That word's never quite worked for me. Utites would be better.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (HsAzN)

Utahoes. Utahis.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (b2nrj)

167
Couldn't care less about Mike Lee or Evan McMullin. Whoever wins, wins. No difference either way, a couple of GOPe scumbags fighting over which douchebag gets to split the graft in Utah with Romney.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (UGDPW)

168 Utanian.

Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (qpX6U)

169 God Almighty please forgive my Country its waywardness and help us in this our hour of desperate need.

I ask God to forgive my sins everyday and pretty much say what you said above as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (fF2aM)

170 158 I was going to comment but this looks like a boys only thread.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (Y+l9t)

=======

Did you just assume garrett's gender?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (LvTSG)

171 May the Quattro be with you.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (UHVv4)

172 Abortion will still be legal in many many states. It merely takes the power of the fed away from deciding it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (GwxCX)

I figure you'll have a few no restriction and no abortion states. The rest will work out some level of compromise like heartbeat or viability.

Posted by: WiNO - Against Uniparty Baby Killers and Groomers at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (EpDzw)

173 I was going to comment but this looks like a boys only thread.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

You know how it works Sister - you have to fight your way in. Just like family.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM (bJxw1)

174 Well, I uhh, Umm
Posted by: Lindsey Graham at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (GwxCX)

Caucus?

He barely *knows* us!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (6FeV1)

175 166 Utahoes

Snort! I like it!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (HsAzN)

176 I'm actually shocked the court did this, even the Cons. I applaud them.

Posted by: pj at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (G1dq6)

They haven't done anything, yet, except not investigate the leak, which was conveniently timed to froth the rabid lefties.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (SH2Zi)

177 btw who knows about Murkowsky in Alaska, it's a weird place on the marge of Lake Lebarge.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM

Don't drag me into this.

And shut the damned door!

Posted by: Sam McGee at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (h6/n7)

178 I don't see how hypocrisy comes into it?

The argument, such that it is, is that Trump isn't a perfect Christian. Since you are claiming to be a Christian you are only allowed to vote for someone that 100% lives Christ's teachings...which would be uh...Christ. Otherwise sit down and shut up.

It is a stupid argument. Biden's a rapey Dixiecrat and those liberals you are taking with voted for him...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (ESjRY)

179 46 I would say my claim that the GOP Establishment's pretense of being "pro-life," and of being "True Conservative," while in fact being pro-abortion and very, very socially liberal is looking more and more solid. ah so you've met my husband

he was SO UPSET yesterday. I couldn't believe it. he talks about how Roe was so wrong! but now ..

I think it was something at Penn that happened. it's like some kind of seed is planted? You Are Elite. Elites Have Certain Thoughts. I dunno. for me it didn't take I'm too ornery Posted by: Black Orchid
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Most people cannot imagine being out of step with their perceived social milieu. Elites have always felt that abortion should be available if one of their yutes has a fling with undesirable mates and to control the underclass. But, they also do not want to be described as facilitating baby killers. So the socially acceptable answer is that I am personally pro life but would not think of imposing my values on others.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (Iq9dF)

180 Suzi Quatro > Cinco de Quattro

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (HsAzN)

181 Utanian
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Yutes.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (UHVv4)

182 My copy of the Declaration doesn't have a "right" to abortion in it. Can someone help me find it? Mine only has the "right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". I presume that especially applies to the most vulnerable amongst us.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (ifHdv)

183 Utahan

That word's never quite worked for me. Utites would be better.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (HsAzN)

Thought it was Utahn.

But now it think it is spelled dumbass.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (D2f58)

184 151 Could someone explain this thinking to me?. Leftists on another website are calling people who are Christians "hypocrites" for voting for Donald Trump. I explained that we weren't voting for a religious leader or a Savior or someone to be our son in law, but for someone to "make America great again" with the policies he wanted to pursue. I don't see how hypocrisy comes into it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (fF2aM)

Interestingly, the subtitle of Barry the Lightworker's book "The Audacity of Hope" (which he may or may not have a hand in writing) has the subtitle "Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream." Sounds a lot like MAGA, doesn't it?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (PiwSw)

185 178 The argument, such that it is, is that Trump isn't a perfect Christian. Since you are claiming to be a Christian you are only allowed to vote for someone that 100% lives Christ's teachings...which would be uh...Christ. Otherwise sit down and shut up.

It is a stupid argument. Biden's a rapey Dixiecrat and those liberals you are taking with voted for him...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (ESjRY)

========

"I, and I alone, am the conduit to the truth of Christian politics."
-David French

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (LvTSG)

186 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM (Y+l9t)

Nah, I'm not a boy and don't plan to pretend to be one. I did play a male Irish cop in a play once but that was a long time ago and didn't involve having a fake penis.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (fF2aM)

187 McMuffin is creepy.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (NpAcC)

188 Pharisee French: "My colleague Evan McMuffin's nuanced, pro-Christian response to what the pro-life (and unChristian) radicals on SCOTUS are doing to an established precedent in RvW is the most appropriate, balanced, centrist, and Christian response that anyone can muster."

Posted by: Thrawn at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (Rl7KJ)

189 That word's never quite worked for me. Utites would be better.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM

Utitty's? Yes. All in favor.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (GwxCX)

190 Trump is the only president to ever speak at the March For Life.
Posted by: JackStraw

My wife and I heard him speak there. It was fantastic.
Posted by: Tonypete

Nice !

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (arJlL)

191
McMuffin is creepy.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (NpAcC

Totally. He's also a thief.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (UGDPW)

192 If Dick Blumenthal went to Ukraine, he'd have those Russkis on the run in no time!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (FVME7)

193 Mine only has the "right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". I presume that especially applies to the most vulnerable amongst us.
Posted by: Marcus T

"No Standing" for the unborn.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (bJxw1)

194 David French is the best David French that David French knows.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (HsAzN)

195 Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream." Sounds a lot like MAGA, doesn't it?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (PiwSw)

Makes more sense when you realize he means the South American dream.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (6FeV1)

196 >>Yutes.

Youths.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (ZLI7S)

197 Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (ESjRY)

Thanks; It really is a stupid argument, isn't it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (fF2aM)

198 182 My copy of the Declaration doesn't have a "right" to abortion in it. Can someone help me find it? Mine only has the "right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". I presume that especially applies to the most vulnerable amongst us.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:35 PM (ifHdv)

It's right there underneath the Emanation beside the left Penumbra.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (PiwSw)

199 151 Could someone explain this thinking to me?. Leftists on another website are calling people who are Christians "hypocrites" for voting for Donald Trump. I explained that we weren't voting for a religious leader or a Savior or someone to be our son in law, but for someone to "make America great again" with the policies he wanted to pursue. I don't see how hypocrisy comes into it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (fF2aM)

one of their leftist college professors told them its a word that gets some people excited, so they throw it around. Don't think that they've put any more thought into it than that, because they haven't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (trdmm)

200 McMuffin/Gosnell 2024 -- Equity Opportunity Abortion Providers Ticket, It's Time to Kill as Many White Babies as Black!

Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (HvXOa)

201

I will never come in your mouth.

Uuuuuuuuiuuiuuiuiuuuuuuuuuggggh...

Oh, sorry.

Another chance?

Posted by: GOPers at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (ORSdU)

202 I'd like to say that there is no way Lee loses to egghead.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (cMXNt)

203 How about Ujerks for electing Romney.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (gZgHO)

204 Utilitarians??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (UHVv4)

205 I was going to comment but this looks like a boys only thread.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM

Rub some dirt on it and walk it off.

Posted by: Coach Obi-Wan at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (a3Q+t)

206 and didn't involve having a fake penis.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (fF2aM)

Did it involve a fake accent?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (D2f58)

207 Cinco de Quattro.

That reminds me.

Owebama IS a dumbfuck. Hard to believe he still is in control of DC.

We are a doomed nation.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (IXZGh)

208 i know that's hard to believe but apparently he's banging every stupid piece of liberal cooze in DC. Like Jim Acosta.

Which is also hard to believe but there you go
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:21 PM (0G13K)

Do you want to know why so many public personalities are being controlled? Part of it is money, but the other half is definitely doughy idiots believing that think tank tarts actually find them attractive. Hunter Biden SOUND like a player, but when you realize he has at least one bastard and a toy shoved up his squeakhole then you have some idea of what happens to all these men pulling game well outside their league.

Don't get me wrong, some men naturally attract women. Clinton was actually on the low end of this. Men such as Kissinger, JFK, and Donald Trump. What's interesting is that he not only gave up that life, but forced one of the tarts to pay him damages for falsely claiming otherwise. I haven't seen anything like it.

Posted by: trev006 at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (J2emI)

209 89 Ace is going over there for the Ukranian snizz.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (Qy7kP)

It might be worth it

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 04, 2022 12:38 PM (V6f9+)

210 Perpetual Candidate...must be a good gig.

Posted by: BignJames at May 04, 2022 12:38 PM (AwYPR)

211 Deep Thoughts from Harvard Boy:

@davidhogg111

First we felt the shaking of the earthquake- I'm afraid now we are witnessing the ocean recede before we are hit by a tsunami of fascism.

------

Twitter response:

Serious question. Have you ever masterbated to completion without lighting candles?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:38 PM (ptqGC)

212 How about Ujerks for electing Romney.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (gZgHO)

Usuckers.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 12:38 PM (SH2Zi)

213 I'd like to say that there is no way Lee loses to egghead.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (cMXNt)

You just keep fucking that chicken, Ken.

Posted by: Dominion Voting Systems at May 04, 2022 12:38 PM (IXZGh)

214 My copy of the Declaration doesn't have a "right" to abortion in it. Can someone help me find it? Mine only has the "right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". I presume that especially applies to the most vulnerable amongst us.
Posted by: Marcus

Ask Biden, you know, it's in the thing, you know.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:38 PM (GwxCX)

215 Daily Mail
REVEALED: George Soros, Clinton and Obama staffers and European governments are behind anti-Musk campaign to force big corporations to boycott Twitter - after Elon demanded to know 'who funds these organizations?'

https://tinyurl.com/4k6nyxn4

Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (NpAcC)

216 18 Evans isn't even a RINO, he is a wolf in sheep clothing
Posted by: Skip's phone at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (wOYq+)

Jackal...do not dignify him as being a Wolf.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (BgMrQ)

217 Oh, sorry.

Another chance?
Posted by: GOPers at May 04, 2022 12:37 PM (ORSdU)

Okay, I LOLed.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (D2f58)

218 What would make me LMAO is Schumer and Pelosi passing a federal bill creating a right to abortion citing the Commerce Clause like they do for every other unconstitutional thing they do. Then someone challenges the law and the Court overturns Wickard.* That would be the ultimate own goal.

*Hey, a Moron can dream, right?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Even under Wickard, there has to be some substantial nexus to the national economy. Don't think decriminalizing abortion would qualify as a legitimate exercise of federal police powers as a result. See U.S. v. Morrison. The only reason that states have to allow it is that Scotus claimed in Roe that access to abortion was a fundamental freedom protected by the 14th Amendment's due process clause.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (Iq9dF)

219
@davidhogg111

First we felt the shaking of the earthquake- I'm afraid now we are witnessing the ocean recede before we are hit by a tsunami of fascism.

You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

Posted by: Dominion Voting Systems at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (IXZGh)

220 142 Point of Order.

Pulling and Paying For are not the same. These types will find a rent girl for 10k to 20k a month to flick their soft micropeens and be their eye candy.
Posted by: The Vooter at May 04, 2022 12:31 PM

That's a steal! You have any contact info?

Posted by: Hunter Biden at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (JCZqz)

221 I see ace's role in Ukraine more like Oddball's from Kelly's Heroes,

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (gZgHO)

222 OFF sock.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (IXZGh)

223 Broke: woman's right to choose
Woke: woman's right to choose to replace dad with the state
Bespoke: Man's right to choose to be a dad, providing and protecting his children, and throwing women in prison who endanger his children.

Posted by: The Vooter at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (sQTrb)

224 Super size me!

- Egg McMuffin

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (FVME7)

225 Pro-choice Republicans at the federal level actually get decreased pressure.
---
Except their true constituents (who always allowed them to lie and say they're pro-life before) have gone full purity:
Note how many are declaring their support for Roe.

It's fantastic that they thought their masks were secure once they got rid of Trump from the WH ... instead, the pace has increased drastically

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (00YpK)

226 Ace is trying to steal the spotlight from Captain Standby.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (ptqGC)

227 McMullin is the only major challenger to Jeff Bezos on the "looks like a walking penis" scale.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (ZGrMX)

228 "I was going to comment but this looks like a boys only thread.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:33 PM "

Show us your tits and we'll think about letting you in.

Posted by: Boys Club Hall Monitor at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (UV9ED)

229 I also heartily endorse this latest Democrat fad.

Posted by: Mitt "I'm All About the Clit" Romney at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (QNvwB)

230 Has this prick even repaid back his debts from 2016 yet?

Also, Mitt Romney is a piece of shite. Well done, Utah. You clowns

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (XSRBF)

231 Sorry, but which states are planning to implement "onerous limits on birth control"?

I must have missed the reporting on that.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (k4dH2)

232 McMullin might be as much of a potato as Tater, only maybe a smaller one

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (iFTx/)

233 Just what America needs right now - a CIA agent in the Senate

Posted by: 29Victor at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (BJKQV)

234 Serious question. Have you ever masterbated to completion without lighting candles?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:38 PM (ptqGC)

It would really be glorious if Elon Musk had posted that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (trdmm)

235 "I, and I alone, am the conduit to the truth of Christian politics."
-David French
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM

What is truth?

And I'm done with this guy - he's all yours.

Posted by: Pilate at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (h6/n7)

236 Thought this shithead had run his course. But this IS how the GOP in general thinks and acts. Dumb mutherfuckers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (BFigT)

237 plus i'm leaving for Ukraine soon

#DoneTalking
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM (0G13K)

Confirmed, Ace is going to be the Ewokian Ghost of Kiev.

Posted by: Thrawn at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (Rl7KJ)

238 >>> He's a candidate for senate. That's enough for some political groupies to throw some fartclam his way.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:29 PM (GwxCX)

Why settle for thrown fartclams? Elect fartclam and SMOD in 2024 and we promise you a sky blackened by fartclammed meteors.

Paid for by the committee for Awkwardly Arousing Annihilation AAA, and approved by Fartclam and SMOD.

Posted by: 2024 Fartclam / SMOD at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (rWGyP)

239 McMullin split the baby in half in his Roe v Wade statement.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (lgeFv)

240 The Karen Prime in the sidebar looks a lot like Mrs. Wolfus No. 1. It's not her; she was never pro-choice, and she'd be a lot older than this Karen . . . but now you see why I'm not still married to her.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (txdEq)

241 McMuffin, Acosta, Creepy Porn Lawyer.....etc.

Liberal women really make their own hell.

Posted by: Ktgreat at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (AD3JT)

242 231 Sorry, but which states are planning to implement "onerous limits on birth control"?

I must have missed the reporting on that.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (k4dH2)

*Papal States sticks head out, looks around, goes back undercover*

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (b2nrj)

243 227 McMullin is the only major challenger to Jeff Bezos on the "looks like a walking penis" scale.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (ZGrMX)

What am I, chopped livah?

Posted by: James Carville at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (PiwSw)

244 REVEALED: George Soros, Clinton and Obama staffers and European governments are behind anti-Musk campaign to force big corporations to boycott Twitter - after Elon demanded to know 'who funds these organizations?'

This didn't even have time to be classified as a conspiracy theory before it was true. They're moving fast these days.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (ZGrMX)

245 I figure you'll have a few no restriction and no abortion states. The rest will work out some level of compromise like heartbeat or viability.
Posted by: WiNO - Against Uniparty Baby Killers and Groomers at May 04, 2022 12:34 PM

Yep. If one state bans it completely there will be other states like CA and NY etc. that will allow it. If someone has to drive to go get one, tough shit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (GwxCX)

246 McMullin might be as much of a potato as Tater, only maybe a smaller one
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (iFTx/)

Kumquat.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (IXZGh)

247 I don't see how hypocrisy comes into it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2022 12:32 PM (fF2aM)

First, leftists only use hypocrisy as a cudgel. They have no moral scruples about tossing aside what they believed 60 seconds ago. So, attack them on their only caring about Christian beliefs when it suits their political needs.

Second, you can point out that God has put into place many flawed leaders who did what he wanted. David had someone killed. Other secular kings served as God's tools.

Third, point out that if the rule is Christians can only voted for authentic Christians, fine. Every Dem is toast.

Posted by: WiNO - Against Uniparty Baby Killers and Groomers at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (EpDzw)

248 233 Just what America needs right now - a CIA agent in the Senate
Posted by: 29Victor at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (BJKQV)

Another one, you mean...

Posted by: Inogame at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (53oGX)

249 Has Leggo my Eggo McMuffin paid his failed staff from that presidential disaster of a campaign yet? Grifter thru and thru.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (LKTKP)

250 This is not the 345 FT. ASL to die on!

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (GwxCX)

251 Kind of off topic - but I believe conservatives may have to worry about losing votes once Roe is officially repealed.

A lot of religious conservatives are ONLY conservative on the issues of abortion and gay marriage (and I don't think gay marriage drives very many votes the way abortion does).

Evangelicals and Mormons, for instance, tend to be very liberal on issues like social spending, entitlements, and open borders. They've been voting GOP solely on the issue of abortion for years. Once that issue is mostly removed - I can see a lot of them voting democrat.

Just a thought.

Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (ky+MF)

252 221 I see ace's role in Ukraine more like Oddball's from Kelly's Heroes,
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (gZgHO)

He's gonna come back flying a Mig-29.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (trdmm)

253 Sure, but what "power" does Eggamoobymuffin have?
Posted by: spindrift at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM (h5TKJ)

He's know for stiffing his staffers.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (yQpMk)

254 Mitt Romney is the kind of Mormon that in the 1840's would have told the mobs where Joseph Smith was hiding, in hopes that after the bloodshed he would become the new leader of the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints.

Posted by: rd at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (Z32m1)

255 One of the biggest lessons I learned after Trump was elected. It doesn't matter if someone *is* pro-life (allegedly), it matters if they will advance the pro-life cause. I don't for one second believe Trump ever really cared about abortion or Roe. His conversion story was comically implausible. And yet...nobody in the history of electoral politics has ever done more to support and advance the pro-life cause. I'll never forget this, and it shouldn't have taken me decades to figure it out. I believed GWB was legitimately pro-life in his beliefs. And yet, like every other Country Club Republican, it was never the right time to actually advance the cause substantially. It was always time for strategic retreat. Lesson learned...finally.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (YQ4mh)

256 Evan McMullin and his steam shovel.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (63Dwl)

257 Did McMuffin ever pay back all of the consultants he stiffed on his last vanity run?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (KMhgX)

258 >> As I've said a thousand times: It is the fact that 80% of the "elite" of the party's apparatchiks were barely-disguised liberals that explains why no matter how often Republicans "win" elections, we never seem to actually win any policy victories. The GOP Establishment class of liberal gate-keepers makes sure that the conservative agenda can never actually gain any purchase in government or culture.

Counter Point: They are all cowards, closeted sodomites and pedos.

Posted by: The Vooter at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (sQTrb)

259 I remember when Glenn Beck was hyping McMuffin and then French for president in 2016. Good times.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (ptqGC)

260 Once that issue is mostly removed - I can see a lot of them voting democrat.

Just a thought.
Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (ky+MF)

Bless your heart.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (yQpMk)

261 "I, and I alone, am the conduit to the truth of Christian politics."

-David French

-
All true Christians worship Moloch!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (FVME7)

262 I must have missed the reporting on that.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 04, 2022 12:40 PM (k4dH2)

They mean morning after drugs. They consider them birth control.

Posted by: WiNO - Against Uniparty Baby Killers and Groomers at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (EpDzw)

263 Lee isn't as great as he used to be, but he's way better than Romney or McMuffin.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (XSRBF)

264 209 89 Ace is going over there for the Ukranian snizz.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2022 12:26 PM (Qy7kP)

It might be worth it
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 04, 2022 12:38 PM (V6f9+)

Worth considering, at least.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (II3Gr)

265 *Papal States sticks head out, looks around, goes back undercover*
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (b2nrj)

If Musk buys Rhode Island and Connecticut, he could call them the "PayPal States".

That would be fun.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (6FeV1)

266 198 182 My copy of the Declaration doesn't have a "right" to abortion in it. Can someone help me find it? Mine only has the "right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". I presume that especially applies to the most vulnerable amongst us.
Posted by: Marcus T
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About that. The FDR appointees to the Supreme Court were there to stop Scotus from applying substantive due process to economic decisions. It is notable that one of those appointees, Justice Douglas in a very poorly written opinion in Griswold v. Ct. renewed the doctrine of substantive due process but applied it to social issues instead of economic. That make everything copacetic. Griswold was a shitty decision because until the Planned Parenthood directors found some constable willing to charge them, it was a dead letter law in CT that had never been enforced. Thus, the case was rejected for lack of standing originally.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM (Iq9dF)

267 My copy of the Declaration doesn't have a "right" to abortion in it. Can someone help me find it? Mine only has the "right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". I presume that especially applies to the most vulnerable amongst us.
Posted by: Marcus
_____________

It emanates from the penumbras of the Good 'N Plenty clause, but you need a magic decoder ring to see it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (k4dH2)

268 Mike Lee is an incumbent, he won't be easily unseated.

Posted by: kallisto at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (DJFLF)

269 The Repubican big tent agreement was always the pro life part supports the corporate part in order to get pro life legislation passed and judges appointed. Well, like everything else, Trump ripped the mask off the corporate part actually supporting the pro life part.

Posted by: alexthechick at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (35mSg)

270 251 Kind of off topic - but I believe conservatives may have to worry about losing votes once Roe is officially repealed.

A lot of religious conservatives are ONLY conservative on the issues of abortion and gay marriage (and I don't think gay marriage drives very many votes the way abortion does).

Evangelicals and Mormons, for instance, tend to be very liberal on issues like social spending, entitlements, and open borders. They've been voting GOP solely on the issue of abortion for years. Once that issue is mostly removed - I can see a lot of them voting democrat.

Just a thought.
Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (ky+MF)

The issue isn't removed because it will now be an active battle in every state.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (b2nrj)

271 Funny how these true conservatives never want to take the win.

It's never achieved "the right way," so it's too distasteful to accept. No, we must surrender, even in victory -' and promise to never repeat the winning tactic again! Muh principles demand it!!

FOAD

Posted by: Lizzy's phone at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (l+9Jo)

272 I remember when Glenn Beck was hyping McMuffin and then French for president in 2016. Good times.

Beck at least has gotten his head partially out of his ass about Trump since then. Mark Levin's gone further in.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (ZGrMX)

273 >>>I remember when Glenn Beck was hyping McMuffin and then French for president in 2016. Good times.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Wow, he collapsed so quickly. Took about two weeks.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (XSRBF)

274 Pharisee French: "My colleague Evan McMuffin's nuanced, pro-Christian response to what the pro-life (and unChristian) radicals on SCOTUS are doing to an established precedent in RvW is the most appropriate, balanced, centrist, and Christian response that anyone can muster."
Posted by: Thrawn at May 04, 2022 12:36 PM (Rl7KJ)

What a piece of shit. I hope these bastards lose the last of their support over this. It was the one thing that kept them on the dole... old thymie conservatives believing they were actually pro life Christians.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (RzfRY)

275 268 Mike Lee is an incumbent, he won't be easily unseated.
Posted by: kallisto at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (DJFLF)

=======

He beat a tranny with his own detached dick last time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (LvTSG)

276 Mike Lee ad.

*an image of McMullin shows up on the screen*

"Look at this individual. He seems predatorial. Would you trust him with your children? I didn't think so."

*this ad paid for by people with brains and want to protect their children.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (IXZGh)

277 I remember when Glenn Beck was hyping McMuffin and then French for president in 2016. Good times.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

McMuffin and French fries, two thirds of a Happy Meal.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (FVME7)

278 plus i'm leaving for Ukraine soon

#DoneTalking
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022 12:19 PM

Didn't Ewok's have body armor?

Note to Ukraine. Do not put this guy in charge of shelves down at HQ. God speed and Kaboom.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:45 PM (GwxCX)

279 244 REVEALED: George Soros, Clinton and Obama staffers and European governments are behind anti-Musk campaign to force big corporations to boycott Twitter - after Elon demanded to know 'who funds these organizations?'

This didn't even have time to be classified as a conspiracy theory before it was true. They're moving fast these days.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (ZGrMX)

the funny part is - who logs on to Twitter and says "ooh, I wonder what Big Corporations are saying today?" Except for the Deep State, of course.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:45 PM (trdmm)

280 What am I, chopped livah?
Posted by: James Carville at May 04, 2022 12:41 PM (PiwSw)

Carville is a terrifying sight when he spreads his mantle.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 04, 2022 12:45 PM (yQpMk)

281 269 The Repubican big tent agreement was always the pro life part supports the corporate part in order to get pro life legislation passed and judges appointed. Well, like everything else, Trump ripped the mask off the corporate part actually supporting the pro life part.

Posted by: alexthechick at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (35mSg)

========

"No, we need our corporate taxes to go down to 23%. Until then, we can't do anything about abortion. Sorries."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:45 PM (LvTSG)

282 today's haiku

so many people
so full of shitty shit shit
I hate all of them

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 04, 2022 12:45 PM (rnt58)

283 >>He's gonna come back flying a Mig-29.

He drives a Vespa.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 12:45 PM (ZLI7S)

284 "Trump was the most Pro-Life Republican President in the last 50 years."

This is a damning statement about the leadership of the Republican Party.

Posted by: rd at May 04, 2022 12:45 PM (Z32m1)

285 >>>Funny how these true conservatives never want to take the win.

We really need a new party. The GOP is useless in every conceivable way.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (XSRBF)

286 Trump is the only president to ever speak at the March For Life.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 12:28 PM

I've been thinking that Trumps calling was fulfilled. He was drawn to run for POTUS by an unlikely reason that would only fit him, he won, took the beatings and punishments, but may end up fundamentally transforming the country on infanticide. Despite all his faults, I imagine his reward will be 'Well done my good and faithful servant.'

Posted by: Mishdog at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (MS8AA)

287 the funny part is - who logs on to Twitter and says "ooh, I wonder what Big Corporations are saying today?" Except for the Deep State, of course.

A lot of people on Twitter block corporations that have "promoted" (advertising) posts pushed into their feed.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (ZGrMX)

288 Okay, here is my comment...I don;t know how any women would have sex with any of these libtard pudgy, pasty poltroons. i never understood the Clinton attraction. They are only interested in their own self aggrandizing pleasure. SWIDT?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (Y+l9t)

289 They may rely on the commerce clause, or they may just bill it as civil rights legislation under the 14th amendment. But no matter what, they'll try to legislate at the federal level if Roe v. Wade is overturned. I assume we'll see repeated efforts until there is success and it is slapped down by the supreme court. I assume the dems would also make overruling the overruling a part of their platform. This is a religious tenet for them. It's not going to go away.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (ppBhU)

290 Even under Wickard, there has to be some substantial nexus to the national economy. Don't think decriminalizing abortion would qualify as a legitimate exercise of federal police powers as a result. See U.S. v. Morrison. The only reason that states have to allow it is that Scotus claimed in Roe that access to abortion was a fundamental freedom protected by the 14th Amendment's due process clause.
Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM

True, but don't forget it was...Breyer, iirc...who made a serious argument that possessing a firearm in a school zone, even if it hadn't moved in interstate commerce, was a sufficient nexus, as the poor darlings would be terrified and wouldn't be able to learn well, get good jobs and therefore have an effect on interstate commerce. I'm just saying that they would certainly use a similar (reaching) justification for a national abortion law. And it would be hilarious to watch it bite them in the ass.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (h6/n7)

291 It emanates from the penumbras of the Good 'N Plenty clause, but you need a magic decoder ring to see it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 04, 2022 12:44 PM (k4dH2)

It's in the shadows of the penumbras.

Posted by: BignJames at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (AwYPR)

292 Hey, McMullin!

What did the other four fingers say to the Thumb?

*swack!!!!*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (6FeV1)

293 30 And then Trump turned out to be pro-life in practice! I don't know if he's really philosophically committed on the issue, but, get this: It doesn't matter. He made promises and he kept them. I don't care if a businessman believes in a contract he signs with me; I just care that he honors the terms of the contract.
++++
100%. Whether you believe it or are just doing what you need to do to advance, if you deliver the goods then you deliver the goods.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 12:20 PM (DU+/6)

Exactly. It took me a while to warm on Trump because I was worried--get this--that he was the cosmopolitan wolf in sheep's clothing, hamming it up to pull a fast one on flyover rubes. Turns out he was the only one not doing that.

And oh they're so mad that got exposed.

Posted by: turnout man at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (wx6iv)

294 And remember (for good or bad) Trump stood by Kavanaugh when other spineless wimp ass GOP would have dropped him like a hot potato.

Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (6XzxG)

295 Can Ewoks take Viagra, Cialis and ground up Rhino Horns? Concerned about the boss...

Posted by: The Vooter at May 04, 2022 12:47 PM (sQTrb)

296 kick some ass, ace

we'll hold down the fort

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 04, 2022 12:47 PM (rnt58)

297 McMullin raped my milking goat.

It's up to him to prove it didn't happen.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:47 PM (IXZGh)

298 >>> we are hit by a tsunami of fascism.

You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
Posted by: Dominion Voting Systems at May 04, 2022 12:39 PM (IXZGh)

I saw Tsunami of Fascism open for Alestorm in '19 at the Rickshaw, Vancouver

Posted by: banana Dream at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (rWGyP)

299 Or perhaps the mail-order route. I just hope they poke some holes in the shipping container this time.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (II3Gr)

300 Dave Chappelle was attacked onstage yesterday.
https://tinyurl.com/y52knake

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (gZgHO)

301 Trump is the best kind of hypocrite: one that tells the truth and keeps his promises. I prefer that to an ally that lies to me and stabs me in the back.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (Vbxdf)

302 Not on twitter, but seems to me it would be better though without the corporations.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (lgeFv)

303 I'm really starting to wonder about people from Utah.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (lPeix)

304 Tsunami of Fascism would be a cool name for a punk band, or at least a song.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (II3Gr)

305 I actually think this was what Barry the Lightworker was referring to when he made his gaffe. It doesn't make him look better, it just means he watches too much TV to be the Leader of the Free World.
*
no you have the order of things reversed, Arrested Development was making a joke about Obama's verbal error
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022

***
The AD episode aired in late May of 2013. When did BHO make his gaffe?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (txdEq)

306 Thus, the case was rejected for lack of standing originally.
Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 12:43 PM

Why do the hard work of lobbying 50 state legislatures when you only have to persuade 5 hacks in black?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (h6/n7)

307 Kyiv, May 7, 2022 (Reuters): A lone Vespa was seen zooming around abandoned cars along the outskirts of the city, driven by what onlookers seems to think was a small, very hairy child. We will continue following this story as it develops...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2022 12:49 PM (PiwSw)

308 Dave Chappelle was attacked onstage yesterday.
https://tinyurl.com/y52knake

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (gZgHO)

-------

Will Smith needs some anger management.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:49 PM (ptqGC)

309 Dave Chappelle was attacked onstage yesterday.
https://tinyurl.com/y52knake
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (gZgHO)

He shouldn't have gone into MAGA Country like that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:49 PM (IXZGh)

310 >>>I'm really starting to wonder about people from Utah.
Posted by: Marcus T

Just now?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 04, 2022 12:49 PM (XSRBF)

311 Go back to Trump's third debate with Hillary, when they asked about Kate term abortion. Hillary gives her practiced, pll tested PP response. Then Trump shrugs and says, " Aborting the baby a day before it's born? That's wrong. That's just wrong."

Aaaand that's the argument, no need to get into the weeds about medical need, doctor - patient discussion, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy's phone at May 04, 2022 12:49 PM (l+9Jo)

312 we are hit by a tsunami of fascism

If Musk wants to ban something on Twitter, he could start with the use of the word fascism.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at May 04, 2022 12:49 PM (eGTCV)

313 I think it was in 2000 when Trump was on Meet the Press when he said he hated the concept of abortion but was still very very pro choice. So much so he would not ban partial birth abortion. I don't think he had an epiphany but rather knew he could not hold that position as a Republican candidate. I'm just glad our enemies attacked Trump from the beginning which just makes him do the opposite of what they want.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (JFJ0Q)

314 As the GOP has moved decisively away from this type of media-beloved consultant -- Schmidt, Nicolle Wallace, that weird dude who is with Arnold's former wife, etc. ...

---------

I read that part of Mollie's tweet as "that weird dude who IS Arnold's former wife ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (81Y9S)

315 no you have the order of things reversed, Arrested Development was making a joke about Obama's verbal error
Posted by: ace at May 04, 2022

***
The AD episode aired in late May of 2013. When did BHO make his gaffe?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 04, 2022 1

***
I looked it up. BHO said it in 2009.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (txdEq)

316 I remember when Glenn Beck was hyping McMuffin and then French for president in 2016. Good times.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Beck seems like a good guy but I really think he lost his shit. Literally had a melt down. I think success broke him. I haven't listened to him for years. Same with Hugh Hewitt. I have NEVER seen any media type give a tongue bath to anyone like he did with Mittens. It was embarrasing.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (GwxCX)

317

Even this idiot was in on the scam.

Who tipped him off it was going down?

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (XnbJC)

318
There is a bag of dicks with this guy's name on it.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (WmGrA)

319 (from yesterday)

A Fridge Too Far

Gyro Dark Thirty

The Guns of Provolone

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (44ww/)

320 289 They may rely on the commerce clause, or they may just bill it as civil rights legislation under the 14th amendment. But no matter what, they'll try to legislate at the federal level if Roe v. Wade is overturned. I assume we'll see repeated efforts until there is success and it is slapped down by the supreme court. I assume the dems would also make overruling the overruling a part of their platform. This is a religious tenet for them. It's not going to go away.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 04, 2022 12:46 PM (ppBhU)

They want to try, certainly. But how are they going to get past a binding SCOTUS decision that holds that this is an area reserved to the States, and that the Federal Govm't has no authority to act here?

and that brings up the true significance of this ruling, and why I hope so dearly that it stands. This isn't just about abortion, this is about beginnign to reverse the last 80 years of SCOTUS jurisprudence, which is astounding.

We're lucky that most on the left are too clueless to understand what's starting to happen; the federal level being stripped of power as it is handed back to the States.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (trdmm)

321 "Utahan. That word's never quite worked for me."

Desolationists. Aridites.

Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (qpX6U)

322 It's hard to know who's more loathsome, Romney or this McMullin guy. They're both sad sack losers.

Posted by: Cory C at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (ABfAk)

323 I wouldn't trust McMullin not to ass rape the cat. Dude needs a throat punch.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (lPeix)

324 Just now?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 04, 2022 12:49 PM (XSRBF)

Hey, we unleashed "Admiral" Levine upon the world.... We ain't got a leg to stand on.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (6FeV1)

325 I looked it up. BHO said it in 2009.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (txdEq)

I stand corrected. Barry, you are an idiot.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (PiwSw)

326 Malcolm Nance is done talking and standing by.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (ptqGC)

327 >>>Dave Chappelle was attacked onstage yesterday.
https://tinyurl.com/y52knake

Only $30,000 bail for attempted murder. Well done, California.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (XSRBF)

328 I've been arguing the pro life side since I was in high school. Always in the minority opinion in the room, usually amongst friends and I don't bring up the subject, but if you ask, I'm not gonna lie, either.

So I've made the tactful arguments a thousand times. I've made the can't we just find common ground plea on partial birth abortion or eugenics, or the disparate impact on minorities. I've lived the pro life, but I don't want to make waves, stance for decades, thinking I was better off not being dismissed and maybe convincing one or two people. Or maybe it was just easier.

It's time to go bullhorn for bullhorn with the crazies. We aren't going to get a better chance in our lifetimes to make major gains on this issue.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (cupoy)

329 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
So let me get this straight- one leak from the SCOTUS and the marshal is called in to investigate by Chief Justice Roberts but a sitting justice's wife literally plotted to overthrow the government and no investigation? Interesting.

-
Hog Boy is a boar.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (FVME7)

330 I'm really pro-Jesus, I just have principles that need to be paid for in silver coins

Posted by: Judas Iscariot at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (SFmnW)

331 wow, it's so strange that the reddist districts and states have these leftwing psyops going on so that we have this problem.

Posted by: sockamster at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (OuH7W)

332 >>>Hey, we unleashed "Admiral" Levine upon the world.... We ain't got a leg to stand on.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

I rescind my previous comment.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (XSRBF)

333 300 Dave Chappelle was attacked onstage yesterday.
https://tinyurl.com/y52knake
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 04, 2022 12:48 PM (gZgHO)

========

By a black man.

This is obviously the fault of white America.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (LvTSG)

334 Once that issue is mostly removed - I can see a lot of them voting democrat.

Just a thought.
Posted by: Mehive

We are in a sorry state if we consider maintaining voting blocs to be on the same level as ending the practice of murdering innocents. Along those lines, I would challenge Mr. McMullin to define what is a child? Despicable POS.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (f3vuH)

335 I'm really starting to wonder about people from Utah.
Posted by: Marcus T

Just now?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Welcome To Utah: Three million people, five last names.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (WmGrA)

336 Interesting this is the only conversation going on in America right now.

This is a diversion. What is really happening?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (EajDl)

337 Hog Boy is a boar.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (FVME7)

All squeal, no bacon.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (6FeV1)

338 Dems have been using stealth candidates for a long time, remember that Paul Ryan a-hole?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (lgeFv)

339 "This reminds me of the debate with Robert Bork. Bork believed the only reason you had any inherent rights was because the government gave them to you," Biden recalled. "When I was questioning him as the chairman, I said, ‘I believe I have the rights that I have not just because the government gave them to me, which you believe, but because I’m just a child of God—I exist.’"

***

So, Biden's brain is officially broken.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (wb1YC)

340 Be careful over there, Ace. We consider you a high value asset.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (ptqGC)

341 "300 Dave Chappelle was attacked onstage yesterday."

I'm predicting that Ace will do a whole post on it. But I suck at predictions.

Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (qpX6U)

342 The GOPe is turning out to be even worse than I imagined. I can not fucking believe that after 50 years of using Roe as a litmus test, they are tucking their cocks between their legs when we are on the cusp of delivering.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (bg3iC)

343 The Ghost of Endor claims another commie stooge.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (lyqKm)

344 "Utahan. That word's never quite worked for me."

I Da Ho. Same price in Salt Lake City. Ask Mitt.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (GwxCX)

345 "Malcolm Nance is done talking and standing by.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (ptqGC)"

Yes, he's feeding pigeons in a Kiev square. But have no fear, he's secretly decoding messages from pigeon speak. Fraud.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (lPeix)

346 2 Is today Cinco de Quatro or is that tomorrow? I'm confused with all these new holidays.
Posted by: Mishdog at May 04, 2022 12:16 PM (MS8AA)

Somebody may have already answered this - today is 'Star Wars' day. May the 4th (be with you).

A great day to be alive!

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kaliforniaistan at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (T+L0u)

347 It's always smoke, mirrors and tinfoil with the Dem's

Posted by: sidney at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (Uy/WF)

348 329 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
So let me get this straight- one leak from the SCOTUS and the marshal is called in to investigate by Chief Justice Roberts but a sitting justice's wife literally plotted to overthrow the government and no investigation? Interesting.

-
Hog Boy is a boar.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (FVME7)

=========

I think the marshal should be called to investigate all the leftists calling for revolution.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (LvTSG)

349 340 Be careful over there, Ace. We consider you a high value asset.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (ptqGC)

And Don't Be Cruel!

Posted by: Zombie Elvis Pressley at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (PiwSw)

350 Did you see the video of the Dave Chapelle attack? Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (Y+l9t)

351 McMuffin's career is:
Spook until 2010
Goldman Sachs
Worked on Romney's failed presidential campaign
Advisor for HCFA
Advisor for BYU
Policy director for House Republican Conference
Failed anti-Trump spoiler candidate
Anti-Trump grifter
Anti-conservative Senate candidate

He's the human incarnation of the swamp.

Posted by: 29Victor at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (BJKQV)

352 323 I wouldn't trust McMullin not to ass rape the cat. Dude needs a throat punch.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (lPeix)

After review Judges would have also accepted dick punch!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (yrol0)

353 Ace,

Do you really want to follow in the footsteps of the brave warrior for Ukraine, Malcolm "MSNBC" Nance?

Posted by: rd at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (Z32m1)

354 I know math isn't allowed but . . .

Newsmax
@newsmax
President Joe Biden delivers remarks on the US economy.

"Let me remind you again, I reduced the federal deficit- all the talk about the deficit [by] my Republican friends, I love it. I reduced it $350 billion in my first year in office."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (FVME7)

355 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
So let me get this straight- one leak from the SCOTUS and the marshal is called in to investigate by Chief Justice Roberts but a sitting justice's wife literally plotted to overthrow the government and no investigation? Interesting.

-
Hog Boy is a boar.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM

A Harvard Man. You can always tell them. But you can't tell them much.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (h6/n7)

356
"No, we need our corporate taxes to go down to 23%. Until then, we can't do anything about abortion. Sorries."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Don't forget the enterprise zones.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (63Dwl)

357 Big news: Politico just deleted a Tweet with a photo of their reporters hanging out with the person Will Chamberlain said could be the SCOTUS leaker.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (ZGrMX)

358 307 Kyiv, May 7, 2022 (Reuters): A lone Vespa was seen zooming around abandoned cars along the outskirts of the city, driven by what onlookers seems to think was a small, very hairy child. We will continue following this story as it develops...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2022 12:49 PM (PiwSw)

--------

He was spotted later that day oiling up & playing beach volleyball with the likes of Tom Cruise and Val Kilmer.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (eB9N9)

359 329 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
So let me get this straight- one leak from the SCOTUS and the marshal is called in to investigate by Chief Justice Roberts but a sitting justice's wife literally plotted to overthrow the government and no investigation? Interesting.

-
Hog Boy is a boar.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:51 PM (FVME7)

That's libelous. Suing the little bastard over it would just give him unwarranted attention, but still...libel.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (II3Gr)

360 350 Did you see the video of the Dave Chapelle attack? Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (Y+l9t)

At that point people probably thought it was part of the act.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (b2nrj)

361 357 Big news: Politico just deleted a Tweet with a photo of their reporters hanging out with the person Will Chamberlain said could be the SCOTUS leaker.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (ZGrMX)

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That's funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (LvTSG)

362 350 Did you see the video of the Dave Chapelle attack? Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (Y+l9t)

Best time to kick a man is when he is down!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (yrol0)

363 That weird dude = Matthew Dowdy

Another more Christian than thou type.

Posted by: Lizzy's phone at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (l+9Jo)

364 Evan McMullin, again? I recall asking who this putz was and why he was a 'thing'. He was some kind of IC squish, right?

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (KY22T)

365 357 Big news: Politico just deleted a Tweet with a photo of their reporters hanging out with the person Will Chamberlain said could be the SCOTUS leaker.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (ZGrMX)

ha ha ha ha ha!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (trdmm)

366 They may rely on the commerce clause, or they may just bill it as civil rights legislation under the 14th amendment. But no matter what, they'll try to legislate at the federal level if Roe v. Wade is overturned.

Babies can cross state lines. Interstate commerce. Upheld.

Posted by: John Roberts at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (j5Tg0)

367 So, Biden's brain is officially broken.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (wb1YC)

That's like OJ saying, "it's like that time when i was arguing with Nicole that she could totally bang the pool boy if she wanted to. "

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (6FeV1)

368 He shouldn't have gone into MAGA Country like that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 12:49 PM

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Jussie Smollett at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (a3Q+t)

369 Did you see the video of the Dave Chapelle attack? Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (Y+l9t)

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The perp has a broken arm and hand. Good job.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (ptqGC)

370 This is a diversion. What is really happening?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (EajDl)

Always a valuable question.

Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (rvvem)

371 It's hard to know who's more loathsome, Romney or this McMullin guy. They're both sad sack losers.
Posted by: Cory C at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM

McMittens, fits in so many ways. They are both the surviving aborted fetus of John McCain.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (GwxCX)

372 Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.

that guys arm was facing the wrong way when it was over.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (lgeFv)

373 322 It's hard to know who's more loathsome, Romney or this McMullin guy. They're both sad sack losers.
Posted by: Cory C at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (ABfAk)

It's not close - McMullin. I mean Romney is bad, but this guy is next level...

Posted by: Nova local at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (exHjb)

374 Malcolm Nancy.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (lPeix)

375 So does this Egg McMuffin shitter have an actual chance in Utah?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (fj2YZ)

376 The perp has a broken arm and hand. Good job.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Rookies!
-- Wise Guys

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (bJxw1)

377 Did you see the video of the Dave Chapelle attack? Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM

Did he throw in a Rick James bitch! ?

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (GwxCX)

378 I think it was in 2000 when Trump was on Meet the Press when he said he hated the concept of abortion but was still very very pro choice. So much so he would not ban partial birth abortion. I don't think he had an epiphany but rather knew he could not hold that position as a Republican candidate. I'm just glad our enemies attacked Trump from the beginning which just makes him do the opposite of what they want.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (JFJ0Q)

Dude gave the cringe-inducing honest answer to the setup question: Should women be put in jail if abortion is illegal and they have an abortion. And then he fought to support his answer. That's when I knew that he would fight hard enough to beat Madame Pantsuit.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (SH2Zi)

379 357 Big news: Politico just deleted a Tweet with a photo of their reporters hanging out with the person Will Chamberlain said could be the SCOTUS leaker.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (ZGrMX)

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The Ministry of Truth deems this "mostly false," and you will be hearing a knock at your door #Soon ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (eB9N9)

380 364 Evan McMullin, again? I recall asking who this putz was and why he was a 'thing'. He was some kind of IC squish, right?
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (KY22T)

former CIA agent who for some reason is adored by Bill Kristol and David French. and nobody else. he's mormon which is his connection to Utah.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (trdmm)

381 McMuffin's career is:
Spook until 2010
Goldman Sachs
Worked on Romney's failed presidential campaign
Advisor for HCFA
Advisor for BYU
Policy director for House Republican Conference
Failed anti-Trump spoiler candidate
Anti-Trump grifter
Anti-conservative Senate candidate
He's the human incarnation of the swamp.
Posted by: 29Victor at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (BJKQV)
You forgot the part where he stiffed his campaign vendors and workers.

Posted by: rd at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (Z32m1)

382 Did you see the video of the Dave Chapelle attack? Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Sweep the leg for me, Dave!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (FVME7)

383 I'm a pretzel - Evan McMullin

Posted by: Archer at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (gmo/4)

384 Kind of off topic - but I believe conservatives may have to worry about losing votes once Roe is officially repealed.

A lot of religious conservatives are ONLY conservative on the issues of abortion and gay marriage ... Once that issue is mostly removed - I can see a lot of them voting democrat.

Just a thought.
Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM

Hey Marge! Now that we've won on our most important issue let's start voting for the very people who were against that very issue for fifty years and who have shown they will do anything, up to destroying institutions and rioting, to bring it back. What could possibly go wrong if we vote to put them back in power?

Concern: noted.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (hOAT3)

385 I wouldn't trust McMullin not to ass rape the cat. Dude needs a throat punch.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022

***
"Don't leave us alone with him!"

Posted by: Cats Everywhere at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (txdEq)

386 377 Did you see the video of the Dave Chapelle attack? Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM

Did he throw in a Rick James bitch! ?
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (GwxCX)

Broke both hands of the attacker...

Posted by: Nova local at May 04, 2022 12:57 PM (exHjb)

387 A great day to be alive!
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kaliforniaistan at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (T+L0u)

The Revenge of the Sixth, however....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 12:57 PM (6FeV1)

388 320 289 They may rely on the commerce clause, or they may just bill it as civil rights legislation under the 14th amendment. But no matter what, they'll try to legislate at the federal level if Roe v. Wade is overturned. I assume we'll see repeated efforts until there is success and it is slapped down by the supreme court. I assume the dems would also make overruling the overruling a part of their platform. This is a religious tenet for them. It's not going to go away.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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Once again, civil rights legislation powers under the 14th does not include positive rights like abortion because as the majority describes, it is not a fundamental freedom. The only possibility is that the privileges and immunities clause gets revived but that opens a large can of worms.

The difference is between positive and negative rights. What Congress could do is facilitate traffic by subsidies and ban discrimination/punishment against people that travel for abortions or perhaps make abortion pills via mail order available in states that banned it. The difference is between positive and negative rights.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 12:57 PM (Iq9dF)

389 386 377 Did you see the video of the Dave Chapelle attack? Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM

Did he throw in a Rick James bitch! ?
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:56 PM (GwxCX)

He now has the word "Unity" indented on his forehead.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 04, 2022 12:57 PM (II3Gr)

390 Big news: Politico just deleted a Tweet with a photo of their reporters hanging out with the person Will Chamberlain said could be the SCOTUS leaker.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM

Who does he think the leaker is? A leftist I am guessing?

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2022 12:57 PM (GwxCX)

391 They want to try, certainly. But how are they going to get past a binding SCOTUS decision that holds that this is an area reserved to the States, and that the Federal Govm't has no authority to act here?

I don't think that's what overruling Roe v. Wade can or will say (assuming it happens). If it does, it's nothing but dicta, because it's addressing a prior constitutional court ruling, not federal legislation. Saying the constitution doesn't resolve this issue is not really the same thing as saying that congress has to stay out.

But I also think it's pointless to have any kind of rational conversation about this issue. Roe v. Wade was not rational. It's never been held in high esteem as legal reasoning even by its supporters. Abortion is about who has the votes, whether the issue is before the court, congress, or state legislatures). And because the votes can always change in all these venues and this issue turns on nothing more than politics, it will be with us forever.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 04, 2022 12:58 PM (ppBhU)

392 This is a diversion. What is really happening?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Good question. I think it's going to be squirrels like this through the 22 election.

Posted by: Infidel at May 04, 2022 12:58 PM (M0FJx)

393 "300 Dave Chappelle was attacked onstage yesterday."

If this becomes a trend, stand-up club tickets will skyrocket in price. Expect TikTok challenge to emerge.

Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 12:58 PM (qpX6U)

394 I like oysters AND snails - Evan McMullin

Posted by: Archer at May 04, 2022 12:58 PM (gmo/4)

395 And, Romney’s niece is McConnell’s pick as head of the GOP. Who is she actually supporting? She had money specifically donated to fight voter fraud, received prior to the election, but she seemed to misplace it into the pockets of her grifter friends. Until Ronna is gone, I doubt anything the GOP does or says, including supporting an R over a D.

Posted by: EveR at May 04, 2022 12:58 PM (20lEg)

396 He's the human incarnation of the swamp.

Posted by: 29Victor
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Tis true, he has no other values than F..K you, Pay Me.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 12:58 PM (Iq9dF)

397 316 I remember when Glenn Beck was hyping McMuffin and then French for president in 2016. Good times.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

As I posited up thread, Mormons tend to be very open-borders and liberal on most issues outside of abortion and gay marriage (at least the many Mormons I've known). same with evangelicals.

I think Beck was against Trump b/c of his stance on immigration. As a convert to Mormonism, as with all converts to a different religion, he is likely more orthodox than those born into the religion. Illegal immigration gives LDS a great opportunity to convert people - and from an outsiders perspective - converting people seems to be one of the biggest and most important tenets of that faith. They even have rites to convert the dead, for instance.

Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 12:59 PM (ky+MF)

398 It's not close - McMullin. I mean Romney is bad, but this guy is next level...

Posted by: Nova local at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (exHjb)

I have them about even on the scorecard

Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 12:59 PM (KaHtf)

399 Wait, McMuffin is LDS?

Does that mean he can have as many husbands as he wants?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 12:59 PM (6FeV1)

400 392 This is a diversion. What is really happening?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Good question. I think it's going to be squirrels like this through the 22 election.
Posted by: Infidel at May 04, 2022 12:58 PM (M0FJx)

sometimes in the devolution of a society, the Diversions are all that you have left.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 12:59 PM (trdmm)

401 335 Welcome To Utah: Three million people, five last names.
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 04, 2022 12:52 PM (WmGrA)

A Vietnamese acquaintance told me the same thing about Vietnam...and Korea

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kaliforniaistan at May 04, 2022 12:59 PM (T+L0u)

402 This rat bastard McMuffin is going to get his faggot ass kicked by Lee's acolytes. This guy has betrayed his constituents, his state, his Church, his friends. . . . .but you can be damned certain that he's still down on his knees slurping George Bush lineage lotion while pains and zingers from TDS are still dancing in his head.

Posted by: H8 RINO Rat Bastards & Michigan Carpetbaggers at May 04, 2022 01:00 PM (5DfsO)

403 >>Who does he think the leaker is? A leftist I am guessing?

Elizabeth Deutsch. Bryer clerk and a far left abortion activist.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 01:00 PM (ZLI7S)

404 What's the closest Roe ever came to being overturned prior to this?

Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:00 PM (KaHtf)

405 Big news: Politico just deleted a Tweet with a photo of their reporters hanging out with the person Will Chamberlain said could be the SCOTUS leaker.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (ZGrMX)
______________

I'll take that as confirmation that she IS the leaker.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 04, 2022 01:00 PM (YqDXo)

406 McMuffin is on all sides of every issue, just like Mr. Slave with the Pineapple.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2022 01:00 PM (xhaym)

407 I think it was in 2000 when Trump was on Meet the Press when he said he hated the concept of abortion but was still very very pro choice. So much so he would not ban partial birth abortion. I don't think he had an epiphany ...

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 04, 2022 12:50 PM (JFJ0Q)

He married Melania in 2005. There's your epiphany.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 04, 2022 01:01 PM (hOAT3)

408 I think Beck was against Trump b/c of his stance on immigration. As a convert to Mormonism, as with all converts to a different religion, he is likely more orthodox than those born into the religion. Illegal immigration gives LDS a great opportunity to convert people - and from an outsiders perspective - converting people seems to be one of the biggest and most important tenets of that faith. They even have rites to convert the dead, for instance.

Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 12:59 PM (ky+MF)

What cracked me up most about Beck is that all the hardcore early NeverTrumpers must have been cast adrift once Beck made his mea culpa.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 01:01 PM (SH2Zi)

409 "Who does he think the leaker is? A leftist I am guessing?

Elizabeth Deutsch. Bryer clerk and a far left abortion activist."

Others speculate Amit Jain, Sotomayor clerk, Yale radical.

Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 01:01 PM (qpX6U)

410 405 Big news: Politico just deleted a Tweet with a photo of their reporters hanging out with the person Will Chamberlain said could be the SCOTUS leaker.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2022 12:54 PM (ZGrMX)
______________

I'll take that as confirmation that she IS the leaker.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 04, 2022 01:00 PM (YqDXo)

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"We definitely don't have an incestuous and unethical relationship with the people we cover."
-The Press

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

411 What's the closest Roe ever came to being overturned prior to this?
Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:00 PM (KaHtf)

Vladimir Putin eating blini on an inversion table.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 01:01 PM (6FeV1)

412 The Charlie Crist of Arlen Specters is All Time Moron Gold. We should have a AOS Treasure Chest to house such acts of genius.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (OTXUv)

413 A Vietnamese acquaintance told me the same thing about Vietnam...and Korea

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kaliforniaistan at May 04, 2022 12:59 PM (T+L0u)

I heard that in Shanghai business, many workers are referred to by their numbers, because so many have the same first and last names.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (trdmm)

414 409 "Who does he think the leaker is? A leftist I am guessing?

Elizabeth Deutsch. Bryer clerk and a far left abortion activist."

Others speculate Amit Jain, Sotomayor clerk, Yale radical.
Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 01:01 PM (qpX6U)

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"There are only righty radicals on the court."
-Democratic Underground, apparently

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (LvTSG)

415 Nurse, this is 2022s / election year riot issue.
They couldn't repeat blm, so this is the new one -' a distraction AND the thing that gets activists raging in the streets, targeting any non progressives.

Posted by: Lizzy's phone at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (l+9Jo)

416 You have people that go into politics because they can't get a job pumping out porta potties. I can understand that. You need a job. Then you have guys like McMuffin, who have been employed but just want to go through life being a total asshole.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (lz5hY)

417 yes sorry I thought you guys knew - Elizabeth Deutch was the leaker

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (j9HX3)

418 412 The Charlie Crist of Arlen Specters is All Time Moron Gold. We should have a AOS Treasure Chest to house such acts of genius.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (OTXUv)

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Such honor. I didn't even get it, to be honest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (LvTSG)

419 Kind of off topic - but I believe conservatives may have to worry about losing votes once Roe is officially repealed.

A lot of religious conservatives are ONLY conservative on the issues of abortion and gay marriage ... Once that issue is mostly removed - I can see a lot of them voting democrat.

Just a thought.
Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM
***

Naaa.

The Democrat Party 2024
Kill The Babies - Sodomize The Survivors

Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (anj39)

420 I think conservative politicians should take a page from Dave Chapelles playbook and when these obnoxious libs rush the stage at their speeches, just punch them in the face. It would be especially effective if it was MTG or Boebert.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (Y+l9t)

421
I'm a pretzel - Evan McMullin
Posted by: Archer

People actually like pretzels.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (63Dwl)

422 Larry Correia's response to McMullin nails it

Larry Correia
@monsterhunter45
14h
That is the most chickenshit response imaginable, you pathetic grifter. You make me want to puke.

Posted by: Hands at May 04, 2022 01:03 PM (786Ro)

423 Did you see the video of the Dave Chapelle attack? Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM

Don't start none. Won't be none.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 04, 2022 01:03 PM (hOAT3)

424 Isn't it weird how politics attracts the sleaziest, nastiest and biggest liars?

Light bugs to a porch light.

Wonder why.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 04, 2022 01:03 PM (K3TEc)

425 Let's make this perfectly clear. The leak of the opinion was designed to bring political pressure on the court.

The entire goal of the democrat party with respect to the court is to use the fear of mobs to sway the justices to succumb to their demands, rather than to review the actual law.

This worked in 2020, when fear caused Roberts to not allow the Texas election case to be heard, thus abdicating their constitutional responsibility.

Mob rule is the only weapon the democrats know.

That the election was allowed to be stolen by the court led directly to this leak and to the idea that it is fine to use force to undermine the law.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 04, 2022 01:03 PM (5kI0z)

426 Did you see the video of the Dave Chapelle attack? Not only did his security beat the shit out of the guy but Chapelle himself got in on the action.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 12:53 PM (Y+l9t)
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The perp has a broken arm and hand. Good job.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (ptqGC)
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dude just hit the Ghetto Lottery. Right or Wrong does not matter. Chapelle and the venue will pay for the "extracurricular activities" by Dave's Posse and the Security. Remember it happened in California. Worse it was LA in CA.

Too bad Avenatti is in Prison. That dude deserves to be represented by Avenatti.

Posted by: rd at May 04, 2022 01:03 PM (Z32m1)

427 BLM is really reserved for presidential election years. Congressional years are WOMEN.

Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (T/j6H)

428 >>Others speculate Amit Jain, Sotomayor clerk, Yale radical.

Yep.

But Deutsch is the one connected to the photo that was just deleted. She's also a Yalie.

Hell, for all we know it was a couple of them. Someone was clearly were coordinating with outsiders.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (ZLI7S)

429 420 Lauren Boebert would not dirty her hands. Her Sig, maybe.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (lz5hY)

430 Who does he think the leaker is? A leftist I am guessing?
Posted by: Minnfidel

Law clerk Elizabeth Deutsch

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (bJxw1)

431 Elizabeth Deutch was the leaker

***

Yale strikes again.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (wb1YC)

432 Black Orchid, has that been proven? I thought it was just a guess because of that relationship with the political reporter?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (Y+l9t)

433 58

Mentioned this yesterday...

An analysis by he NYT said if Roe is overturned it will lead to a 13% decline in abortions based on current laws in each state as well as proposed laws, and distance from future ban states to future abortion friendly states.

So all this shrieking is over a decline of abortions in the low teens.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (JwPqM)

434 The perp has a broken arm and hand. Good job.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 12:55 PM (ptqGC)

As it should be. FAFO, bitches.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (IXZGh)

435 Traditional barbarians: kill the men and rape their women

Modern barbarians: kill their babies and rape their babies.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (6FeV1)

436 419 Oh, shit. . . . Dr Pepper all over the desk. . . . thanks a lot. . . . .

Posted by: H8 RINO Rat Bastards & Michigan Carpetbaggers at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (5DfsO)

437 The GOPe is turning out to be even worse than I imagined. I can not fucking believe that after 50 years of using Roe as a litmus test, they are tucking their cocks between their legs when we are on the cusp of delivering.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Why would they change? They have spent the last 5 decades spouting empty words.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (f3vuH)

438 This is the technique the Democrats and the NeverTrumpers will be using throughout November to put their NeverTrump candidates across in Republican states -- after Liz Cheney loses the Republican primary, she'll announce an "independent" bid and Democrats will support it. Democrats have already announced as much, and Liz Cheney's camp is already talking that up.

Lisa Murkowski is already talking about not running as a Republican candidate but as a "centrist."

And in 2024, of course NeverTrump will launch a major well-financed (by Democrats) "independent" spoiler candidacy to make sure the Democrat beats Trump (or DeSantis -- they hate both, because neither is a liberal neocon).

Here's the thing. We sit and watch these techniques. And we say they're incredible, horrible, whatever. But why don't we start using them?

Posted by: Hands at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (786Ro)

439 409 "Who does he think the leaker is? A leftist I am guessing?

Elizabeth Deutsch. Bryer clerk and a far left abortion activist."

Others speculate Amit Jain, Sotomayor clerk, Yale radical.
Posted by: Doge gp So Girth Wow Such Hard at May 04, 2022 01:01 PM (qpX6U)

But out of those, only Elizabeth Deutsch has a husband who has worked with and co-authored pieces with the Politico editor who the opinion was given to. Again, the biggest question is - why Politico, and not the WaPo or the NYT? The answer appears to be that the Politico editor was the one they had over for dinner a lot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (trdmm)

440 Know the enemy. Obviously it is us.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1521895842252267527

Posted by: Biden's Dog at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (viHpT)

441 In my college visits with my daughter, we did a virtual tour of U Penn. One of the students was talking about the opportunities there, said that her poli sci professor (spoiler: it was Evan McMullin) had gotten Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney as guest speakers in her class.

So Romney refuses to back his colleague Mike Lee, but does McMuffin a favor by speaking to his class.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (9otr5)

442 How old is Barron?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (44ww/)

443 'I don't think that's what overruling Roe v. Wade can or will say (assuming it happens). If it does, it's nothing but dicta, because it's addressing a prior constitutional court ruling, not federal legislation. Saying the constitution doesn't resolve this issue is not really the same thing as saying that congress has to stay out. '
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ASB, the fedgov by prior precedents does not have and no Scotus has EVER ruled that fedgov has plenary police powers to regulate for the health, safety, and welfare of US citizens. It has to be tied to a federal enumerated power which is std. constitutional law. E.g. commerce clause (but see US v. Morrison), taxing power (Congress could give a tax deduction for abortion but not make a state recognize it), military, etc.

So, like marijuana, Congress can make sure that fedgov does not punish abortion, it could bribe states via money using SD v Dole (most likely) to allow it (but not coerce them under NFIB v. Sebelius), but not legalize it in states where it is banned. That is why removing the 14th Amendment protection as a fundamental freedom in Alito's draft opinion is so important.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (Iq9dF)

444 Egghead Mcnothin = Grifter

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (M+Lyo)

445 SO, WHO WASVIT??!!

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (BP9lK)

446 Let's make this perfectly clear. The leak of the opinion was designed to bring political pressure on the court.

The entire goal of the democrat party with respect to the court is to use the fear of mobs to sway the justices to succumb to their demands, rather than to review the actual law.

This worked in 2020, when fear caused Roberts to not allow the Texas election case to be heard, thus abdicating their constitutional responsibility.

Mob rule is the only weapon the democrats know.

That the election was allowed to be stolen by the court led directly to this leak and to the idea that it is fine to use force to undermine the law.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 04, 2022 01:03 PM (5kI0z)
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If Chief Justice John Roberts works any harder to "Save the Court's Reputation," it will become irrelevant.

Posted by: rd at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (Z32m1)

447 Elizabeth Deutsch is a Lone Wolf and she was being watched by the FBI.

Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (T/j6H)

448 Isn't it weird how politics attracts the sleaziest, nastiest and biggest liars?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 04, 2022 01:03 PM (K3TEc)

I went to school with the only person I have ever heard utter the words, "I want to go into politics." He was the smarmiest, least competent nepot I have ever encountered. Same vibe as with McMuffin.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (SH2Zi)

449 437 The GOPe is turning out to be even worse than I imagined. I can not fucking believe that after 50 years of using Roe as a litmus test, they are tucking their cocks between their legs when we are on the cusp of delivering.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

***

Once again, the problem with having the GOP on your side is that you have the GOP on your side.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (wb1YC)

450 Possible motivation: When Breyer retires, she has to get another job, so she sees this as the ultimate activist resume enhancer...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, and I want my CNN+ at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (PiwSw)

451 I'm a pretzel - Evan McMullin
Posted by: Archer

People actually like pretzels.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2022 01:02 PM (63Dwl)

An uncooked pretzel.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (IXZGh)

452 How much do you suppose the leaker was paid? Nobody sticks their neck out that far unless there's something in it for them.

Posted by: creeper at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (cTCuP)

453 Fox Poll has Brandon at 45% JA

what they hell would he be at if we didn't have inflation, war, etc

like 68%

Fox sucks

Posted by: REDACTED at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (us2H3)

454 ASB, the fedgov by prior precedents does not have and no Scotus has EVER ruled that fedgov has plenary police powers to regulate for the health, safety, and welfare of US citizens.

So?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (ppBhU)

455 we did a virtual tour of U Penn.

Attsamatter U > U Penn

Posted by: Archer at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (gmo/4)

456 I am reading a biography of Will Rogers, the comedian and cowboy. This is one of things he said about politcians:
,
"Once a man holds public office, he is no good for honest work."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (fF2aM)

457 and just support Roe v. Wade in the meantime, as True Conservatives do.

Over my dead body. Literally. I've been in pro-life marches since I was in a stroller, my grandfather fought tooth and nail to get the state Republican party to adopt the pro-life plank in the 70s (he was going against the country club set Rush constantly warned about), and I've had to comfort women sobbing over past abortions.

Besides, Roe vs Wade is a crappy decision and everyone knows it.

Posted by: pookysgirl loves babies at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (XKZwp)

458 Too bad Avenatti is in Prison. That dude deserves to be represented by Avenatti.
Posted by: rd at May 04, 2022 01:03 PM (Z32m1)

If that turdblossom got the case, the poor bastard would wind up owing Chapelle $50k, serving time for contempt of court, and having to legally change their name to "Bitch".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (6FeV1)

459 433 58

Mentioned this yesterday...

An analysis by he NYT said if Roe is overturned it will lead to a 13% decline in abortions based on current laws in each state as well as proposed laws, and distance from future ban states to future abortion friendly states.

So all this shrieking is over a decline of abortions in the low teens.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (JwPqM)

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I mean...Planned Parenthood doesn't make its money from pap smears.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (LvTSG)

460 I like the idea of a right wing leak. The more I think about it the more it makes sense. It prevents Roberts from flipping a vote by basically locking all 5 in.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (JwPqM)

461 Mitt Romney didn't just SAY that he supported Roe v. Wade when he was governor of Massachusetts. He actually signed legislation that included taxpayer funding of abortions.

Posted by: Ken at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (nOMhL)

462 >> How much do you suppose the leaker was paid? Nobody sticks their neck out that far unless there's something in it for them.

Lifetime of Free Abortions

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (v9ZzX)

463 445 SO, WHO WASVIT??!!
Posted by: runner at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (BP9lK)

PHONE!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (K3TEc)

464 Elizabeth Deutsch is a Lone Wolf and she was being watched by the FBI.
Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (T/j6H)

Fake news. She didn't murder anyone.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (IXZGh)

465 Hey Ace, just saw over on Breitbart that the White House Correspondents Dinner was apparently a Covid super spreader event. Not sure if this has been posted already.

Posted by: Tofer732 at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (GcxM3)

466 Life is like a bag of pretzels. Hard, twisted, and quickly stale.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (II3Gr)

467 So all this shrieking is over a decline of abortions in the low teens.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (JwPqM)

Sure but it comes right off the top. That 13% is pure profit. Selling baby parts is costly business.

Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (T/j6H)

468 Elizabeth Deutch was the leaker

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Yale strikes again.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (wb1YC)

So nothing will happen to her. Nothing. Wonder if she's any relation to Donnie Deutch?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 01:08 PM (ptqGC)

469 Biden is not a 45% approval. The numbers are almost always raised for a Democrat politician.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2022 01:08 PM (fF2aM)

470 464 Elizabeth Deutsch is a Lone Wolf and she was being watched by the FBI.
Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:06 PM (T/j6H)

Fake news. She didn't murder anyone.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (IXZGh)

except babies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2022 01:08 PM (trdmm)

471 Dont have abortions if you are allergic to abortions.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (JwPqM)

472 How much do you suppose the leaker was paid? Nobody sticks their neck out that far unless there's something in it for them.
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Let's not go all leftist on this and presume the motivation for every act is financial. People do things for reasons other than financial. Kamikazes leap to mind in this connection.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (73Q5c)

473 Come clean, leaker.

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (BP9lK)

474 >>Biden is not a 45% approval. The numbers are almost always raised for a Democrat politician.

45% of whom?

Potential Voters, likely. Also heavily weighted towards Dems +10 or greater, no doubt.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (v9ZzX)

475 Know the enemy. Obviously it is us.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1521895842252267527

Posted by: Biden's Dog at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (viHpT)

BIDEN: "This MAGA crowd is really the most extreme political organization that has existed in American history."

I volunteer to wrastle her . . . for the Republic.

https://tinyurl.com/yy8f8sf7

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (SH2Zi)

476 I had forgotten that Puddinhead voted for a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe in 1988. Given the lefty hysteria about it now, that's hilarious.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (sWM8x)

477 MUMR nearly made me spit tea on my laptop.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (ptqGC)

478 453 Fox Poll has Brandon at 45% JA

what they hell would he be at if we didn't have inflation, war, etc

like 68%

Fox sucks

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Yeah, he's totally at 45%. Which is why the Democrats are so calm about November.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (wb1YC)

479 251 Kind of off topic - but I believe conservatives may have to worry about losing votes once Roe is officially repealed.

A lot of religious conservatives are ONLY conservative on the issues of abortion and gay marriage (and I don't think gay marriage drives very many votes the way abortion does).

Evangelicals and Mormons, for instance, tend to be very liberal on issues like social spending, entitlements, and open borders. They've been voting GOP solely on the issue of abortion for years. Once that issue is mostly removed - I can see a lot of them voting democrat.

Just a thought.
Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 12:42 PM (ky+MF)

Preachers like cheap gasoline also. Also affordable food. Abortion is not the only voting trigger.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (Qhnrt)

480 432 Black Orchid, has that been proven? I thought it was just a guess because of that relationship with the political reporter?

it was sussed out by Will Chamberlain on Twitter. it all fits. it was her.

freaking Yale "gender studies" major ... really?!?!

her husband is a journalist

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (j9HX3)

481 I think that in four years we are going to be in a real war a world war against Russia and China. It will have been entirely unnecessary and avoidable, just like the first and second world wars. And it will be much worse than we imagine, because it is going to be fought with worse than nuclear weapons
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Pretty much what I think also. Mostly because the political and economic will for it are high and the forces that militate against it are weak.

Posted by: American Greatness article by Gerlernter at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (pK9KH)

482 Grifter Mormons are the worst Mormons in existence, and give the rest a bad name. Grifter GOP Mormons? A whole other level of evil. Had they been around in Dante's time, a special circle of hell just for them.

Pharisees with magic underwear. And you know how much I must mean that since I hate the magic underwear jokes.

Posted by: LizLem at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (Ii1Lv)

483 Stop blowing margins!!!

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (BP9lK)

484 Douches gotta douche.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (IXZGh)

485 I think Beck was against Trump b/c of his stance on immigration.

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Jeez! He marries one foreigner . . . !

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (FVME7)

486 Will Utah support this little cretin? Probably.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (2Jd8G)

487 it was sussed out by Will Chamberlain on Twitter. it all fits. it was her.

freaking Yale "gender studies" major ... really?!?!

her husband is a journalist
Posted by: Black Orchid at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (j9HX3)

So she's a beard?

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (II3Gr)

488 Stop blowing margins!!!
Posted by: runner at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (BP9lK)

Hey. You mind your business, pal.....

Posted by: The Margins at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (IXZGh)

489 Trump's gonna put his, liberal sister on the Supreme Court!

-Conservative Inc, "Fightin For You"

Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (T/j6H)

490 Here's a thread on the suspected leaked

tinyurl.com/mrxsrp6z

Posted by: Lizzy's phone at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (l+9Jo)

491 it was sussed out by Will Chamberlain on Twitter. it all fits. it was her.

freaking Yale "gender studies" major ... really?!?!

her husband is a journalist

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (j9HX3)

How in the hell does a gender studies major end up clerking for the SCOTUS??

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (ptqGC)

492 465 Hey Ace, just saw over on Breitbart that the White House Correspondents Dinner was apparently a Covid super spreader event. Not sure if this has been posted already.

saw that! I lol'ed

germy journos

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (j9HX3)

493 I saw Egg McMuffin Shitter open for Poison at Mr. Small's Funhouse in Pittsburgh around '82.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (81Y9S)

494 Criminal charges. Also, send her to Ukraine to fight the Russians...,

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (BP9lK)

495 489 Trump's gonna put his, liberal sister on the Supreme Court!

-Conservative Inc, "Fightin For You"
Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (T/j6H)

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They got that one right. Don't doubt them on anything else. Ever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

496 >>>Kind of off topic - but I believe conservatives may have to worry about losing votes once Roe is officially repealed.

Votes? If it saves just one life.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (SH2Zi)

497 392 This is a diversion. What is really happening?
Posted by: nurse ratched

2000 Mules

Posted by: Fool Otto at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (DB16e)

498 BIDEN: "This MAGA crowd is really the most extreme political organization that has existed in American history."
....
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (SH2Zi)

Awwww, see? He really is capable of saying something nice once in a while.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (6FeV1)

499 freaking Yale "gender studies" major ... really?!?!

Imagine having to go to college to study gender. I learned both of them before kindergarten.

Posted by: t-bird at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (RCix1)

500 >>I think Beck was against Trump b/c of his stance on immigration.

Beck is the PT Barnum of the Right.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (v9ZzX)

501 Note they've changed complaining about Trump to complaining about MAGA.

Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (T/j6H)

502 BIDEN: "This MAGA crowd is really the most extreme political organization that has existed in American history." ...
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (SH2Zi)
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It's hilarious. I guess he's never met either of the *two* state-enabled Democrat street war organizations. The used the Klan to great effect and are running many of the same plays with Antifa now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (DU+/6)

503 WHO IS SHE CLERKING FOR??

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (BP9lK)

504 Trump actually has spoken, indirectly, about what caused his conversion to pro life.
Not just on the stump, but even in a debate?
Where he says, here's what they do, this partial birth abortion, it's horrible, terrible we have to end it.

Basically, he was low info, got hit with the truth

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (00YpK)

505 Preachers like cheap gasoline also. Also affordable food. Abortion is not the only voting trigger.

****

So do the churches they represent.

A lot of red felt showing at the bottom of those collection plates when milk is 10 bucks a gallon and gas is six bucks a gallon.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (wb1YC)

506 WHO IS SHE CLERKING FOR??

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (BP9lK)

Was it the Wise Latina?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (ptqGC)

507 473 Asshoes who drown kittens for grins get no money. So it is with a lot of leakers. They have their big whoopi do secret meeting with some asshoe reporter and go home, look in a mirror and say "I'm the greatest ever". And then jerk off for an hour.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (lz5hY)

508 Hmmm. My medical insurer informs me that May is "Mental Health Awareness Month."

They couldn't have picked a worse month to leak this opinion!!!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (DU+/6)

509 502 It's hilarious. I guess he's never met either of the *two* state-enabled Democrat street war organizations. The used the Klan to great effect and are running many of the same plays with Antifa now.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (DU+/6)

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We don't attack black people. That's his problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (LvTSG)

510 How old is Barron?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 04, 2022 01:05 PM (44ww/)

Born 3/20/2006. Eligible for President in the 2044 Election.

Posted by: rd at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (Z32m1)

511 BIDEN: "This MAGA crowd is really the most extreme political organization that has existed in American history."

Today's operative word is: "PROJECTION"

Posted by: Archer at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (gmo/4)

512 Yeah, always though Mormons were conservative.
Wrong.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (CLkaN)

513 465 Hey Ace, just saw over on Breitbart that the White House Correspondents Dinner was apparently a Covid super spreader event. Not sure if this has been posted already.
Posted by: Tofer732 at May 04, 2022 01:07 PM (GcxM3)

Oh good grief. Enough with this horseshit!

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (Qhnrt)

514 Well, they are very quickly deleting Elizabeth Deutsche from the internet. So there's that.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (6iBJs)

515 I read the Chamberlain twitter but I think it is wrong to jump on things like that without proof even though it looks likely. It is like doxxing someone. What if it turns out to be someone else?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (Y+l9t)

516 "Evangelicals and Mormons, for instance, tend to be very liberal on issues like social spending, entitlements, and open borders. They've been voting GOP solely on the issue of abortion for years. Once that issue is mostly removed - I can see a lot of them voting democrat."

Delivered with a straight face, this is great humor...

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (MkuC5)

517 She's Yale undergrad and Yale law, plus two additional advanced degrees, one of which is gender. Her published writings are on abortion, clerk ed for a DC judge who was also abortion activist. Hubb

Posted by: Lizzy's phone at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (l+9Jo)

518 >>Was it the Wise Latina?

Breyer.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (ZLI7S)

519 To be fair, if Romney really wanted to kneecap Lee, endorsing him would be the kiss of death.

Best we can ask for is for Mitt to keep his mouth shut. Which he won't.

Posted by: Severe Conservative at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (1dzqn)

520 >>Yeah, always though Mormons were conservative.

No way of telling without the seer stones.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (v9ZzX)

521 I'm betting the SCOTUS leak was done by multiple clerks... one passing it on to another for dissemination to friendly contacts for further publication.

Let's call it a "network"

There's probably hundreds of them in the capitol city.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (BFigT)

522 she clerks for Breyer

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (j9HX3)

523 BIDEN: "This MAGA crowd is really the most extreme political organization that has existed in American history."
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And Biden has the best Voter Fraud Operation in American history.

Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (T/j6H)

524 Oh, is it election season again?
I guess I should find my BubbaTeeth and my outdoor gear, it's going to be a slog trying to convince those dolts I'm one of them again.
But don't worry, I'll nod and wink at the camera as I take my trip into the field with my never-fired side by side.
That way you'll be in on the con too.

Posted by: duplicitous bastards everywhere at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (MFphb)

525 2000 Mules
Posted by: Fool Otto at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (DB16e)

No. They already won that fight because nothing is going to happen. Most likely this is an attempt to rally the base some and get some GOPe hacks to tick off social conservatives.

Posted by: WiNO - Against Uniparty Baby Killers and Groomers at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (EpDzw)

526 519 To be fair, if Romney really wanted to kneecap Lee, endorsing him would be the kiss of death.

Best we can ask for is for Mitt to keep his mouth shut. Which he won't.
Posted by: Severe Conservative at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (1dzqn)

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To be fair, he is the new Jeff Flake.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (LvTSG)

527 Ok, Honeythief is a pretty good 80's tune. Nice one, Ace

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (V6f9+)

528 436 419 Oh, shit. . . . Dr Pepper all over the desk. . . . thanks a lot. . . . .
Posted by: H8 RINO Rat Bastards & Michigan Carpetbaggers at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM (5DfsO)

So...it's 10 o'clock where you are? (10, 2 and 4)

Same here.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kaliforniaistan at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (T+L0u)

529 Any Constitutional Conservative should be for the overturning of Roe v Wade if for no other reason than that it is a bad, unconstitutional ruling that gave the Federal Government power that it should not have.

Posted by: 29Victor at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (BJKQV)

530 it was sussed out by Will Chamberlain on Twitter. it all fits. it was her.

freaking Yale "gender studies" major ... really?!?!

her husband is a journalist
Posted by: Black Orchid at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (j9HX3)
____________

What sex is her husband? Has he always been that sex, or no?

Because nowadays, one cannot assume anything.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 04, 2022 01:15 PM (73Q5c)

531 Covid Correspondents

Posted by: torabora at May 04, 2022 01:15 PM (Y274z)

532 Hey Ace, just saw over on Breitbart that the White House Correspondents Dinner was apparently a Covid super spreader event. Not sure if this has been posted already.

I recommend the Shanghai Protocol.

Posted by: Hands at May 04, 2022 01:15 PM (786Ro)

533 How in the hell does a gender studies major end up clerking for the SCOTUS??

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (ptqGC)

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Can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch for $20, same as in town.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 04, 2022 01:15 PM (81Y9S)

534 Wuhan Writers

Posted by: torabora at May 04, 2022 01:15 PM (Y274z)

535 I don't think that anyone related to the court exfiltrated the actual file. I think that someone there - maybe one of the clerks, but perhaps one of the Justices - told someone about the shocking thing they just read. And the word got around to whoever could have the NSA go get the file.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (9otr5)

536 "But for a lot of vulnerable women, women who are poor, women of color, they will be forced to have pregnancies that they cannot afford to terminate, and pregnancies that will then turn into children," she added.

White women are not poor or vulnerable. All women of color though.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (bg3iC)

537 Pestilent Presstitutes

Posted by: torabora at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (Y274z)

538 Kind of off topic - but I believe conservatives may have to worry about losing votes once Roe is officially repealed.
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I think it's an electoral winner. The dems are once again demonstrating that they're straight-up totalitarians.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (sWM8x)

539 I'm out.
Have a good day all and thanks for the conversation.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (Y+l9t)

540 Lizzy's phone

Still banned?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (CLkaN)

541
Breyer.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (ZLI7S)

Is he the one Biden is forcing out the door for his token? I haven't been paying much attention......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (IXZGh)

542 536 "But for a lot of vulnerable women, women who are poor, women of color, they will be forced to have pregnancies that they cannot afford to terminate, and pregnancies that will then turn into children," she added.

White women are not poor or vulnerable. All women of color though.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (bg3iC)

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I thought women were stronger than men.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (LvTSG)

543 WHO IS SHE CLERKING FOR??

Posted by: runner

I heard that in Kiefer Sutherland's voice.

Posted by: Hands at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (786Ro)

544 Do cross-partisians wear dresses or pantsuits?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (f3vuH)

545 >> I read the Chamberlain twitter but I think it is wrong to jump on things like that without proof even though it looks likely. It is like doxxing someone. What if it turns out to be someone else?

I'm pretty much done playing by the rules with people who do things like run FISA warrants on innocent Americans, force them to sell their homes to pay legal bills for Russia collusion hoaxes and throw people guilty of at worst trespassing in solitary confinement for over a year.

If she turns out not to be the person I promise to give her an "Opps, my bad". Best I can do.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (ZLI7S)

546 Anyone who thinks they have an unhinged, hateful sibling, I introduce you to Laura Ingraham's crazy brother:

https://tinyurl.com/37d46r2f

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (ptqGC)

547 BIDEN: "This MAGA crowd is really the most extreme political organization that has existed in American history."
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I wish that were true. True enough to make normal dems shit their pants, not just the demented geriatrics pretending to be president.
Speaking of which, why couldn't someone have told him he don't want to be president because he's Napoleon.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (MFphb)

548 453 Fox Poll has Brandon at 45% JA

what they hell would he be at if we didn't have inflation, war, etc

like 68%

Fox sucks

Posted by: REDACTED
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Fox has never had good polling over the years because the Murdochs don't want it. All of their polling partners have sucked. Better polls do not have any media affiliations.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (Iq9dF)

549 @davidhogg111

First we felt the shaking of the earthquake- I'm afraid now we are witnessing the ocean recede before we are hit by a tsunami of fascism.
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Someone took creative writing in high school.

Posted by: Javems at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (AmoqO)

550 Others speculate Amit Jain, Sotomayor clerk, Yale radical.

Yep.

But Deutsch is the one connected to the photo that was just deleted. She's also a Yalie.

Hell, for all we know it was a couple of them. Someone was clearly were coordinating with outsiders.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 01:04 PM

My God...Yale men!

Posted by: Thurston Howell III at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (h6/n7)

551 I thought women were stronger than men.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (LvTSG)

Only the ones with dicks.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (6FeV1)

552 nood

hunter's lappy

Posted by: banana Dream at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (rWGyP)

553 Notice the difference between Trump speaking as pro life and your average GOPe.

Trump is specific, emotional, visceral why it's bad.
GOPe is euphemisms, vague morality, and phony lofty ideals.

"This is bad because it's killing, inhumane, revolting" vs. "This is bad because life is nice"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (00YpK)

554 Did she also leak Breyer retirement?

Recall that he was forced into announcing it early because of the leak.

Posted by: Lizzy's phone at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (l+9Jo)

555 Well, they are very quickly deleting Elizabeth Deutsch from the internet. So there's that.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (6iBJs)
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Further confirmation, if any were needed.

Which it wasn't. Politico memory-holing (?) the photo of her with Politico staffers was pretty strong confirmation right there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (73Q5c)

556 WHAT SIS BRYER KNOW AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT??!!

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (BP9lK)

557 NOOD Schiff

Posted by: Hands at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (786Ro)

558
If she turns out not to be the person I promise to give her an "Opps, my bad". Best I can do.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2022 01:17 PM (ZLI7S)

It still is illuminating to find out what an ideological extremist she is.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, and I want my CNN+ at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (PiwSw)

559 I read the Chamberlain twitter but I think it is wrong to jump on things like that without proof even though it looks likely. It is like doxxing someone. What if it turns out to be someone else?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (Y+l9t)

Just playing by the rules that have been put in place.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (IXZGh)

560 "But for a lot of vulnerable women, women who are poor, women of color, they will be forced to have pregnancies that they cannot afford to terminate, and pregnancies that will then turn into children," she added.

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Turn into what now?

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (wb1YC)

561 538 Kind of off topic - but I believe conservatives may have to worry about losing votes once Roe is officially repealed.
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I think it's an electoral winner. The dems are once again demonstrating that they're straight-up totalitarians.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 04, 2022 01:16 PM (sWM8x)

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I do think there is a subset of the Republican coalition form the past few decades who have latched onto the GOP most purely for the issue of abortion. Are they going to suddenly start wishing for more government intervention in other ways and find a voice in "moderate" Democrats?

I think it's possible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (LvTSG)

562 *DID

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (BP9lK)

563 500 >>I think Beck was against Trump b/c of his stance on immigration.

Beck is the PT Barnum of the Right.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (v9ZzX

At least Beck had the courage to admit he was wrong.

I'm not going to denigrate Beck. He's on our side.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (Qhnrt)

564 Axios
@axios
The Republican establishment privately regards J.D. Vance - who won last night's Ohio Republican Senate primary - with the same disgust many felt toward Donald Trump when he entered the White House.

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Well, that's a good sign.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 04, 2022 01:19 PM (FVME7)

565 "The National government has no right to impose this dictate on the individual states"

"OMG, FASHIZM!!!!"

God damned invertibrates.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 04, 2022 01:19 PM (6FeV1)

566
It's nice to know that Egg McMuffin's set of "Muh Principles" are for sale to the highest bidder.

I wonder how much it would cost to get him to wear one of Biden used Depends as a toupee.

I'm guessing it's pretty cheap!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2022 01:19 PM (LV9Tl)

567 Preachers like cheap gasoline also. Also affordable food. Abortion is not the only voting trigger.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 04, 2022 01:09 PM (Qhnrt)

I'm talking about the actual voters. Yes, this election cycle it probably won't happen b/c things are so terrible b/c of Biden.

but in future elections - most evangelicals and Mormons I have known have ONLY been conservative and voted GOP based on abortion. They have been against border security, for amnesty for illegals, for massive social welfare spending, etc.

Don't forget that the 3 legs of Reagan's coalition stool were economic conservatives, cold war hawks, and social conservatives. Social conservatives generally only voted GOP b/c of abortion.

Even if only 25% of social conservatives migrated to the dems, it would be bad for the GOP at election time.

Now, the dems may help us out with this by pushing transgenderism on kids, etc., which would likely keep these religious conservatives in our camp. But I worry that they will leave once abortion is not longer a main issue in federal electoral politics.

Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 01:19 PM (ky+MF)

568 495 489 Trump's gonna put his, liberal sister on the Supreme Court!

-Conservative Inc, "Fightin For You"
Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:10 PM (T/j6H)
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They got that one right. Don't doubt them on anything else. Ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:11 PM (LvTSG)
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I count the silverware after I see one of those shysters on TV.
Although that did get Trump to commit to Federalist Society candidates, which turned into a strength for his election.

Posted by: rd at May 04, 2022 01:19 PM (Z32m1)

569 The incessant talk of the "red wave" is foolhardy.
There's the proof up top.

Ask yourself if Democrats are going to let a Republican, any Republican, win an election.
It is all out war at this point. Republicans ought to read the writing on the wall.

Posted by: Ziba at May 04, 2022 01:21 PM (S1hrL)

570 I read the Chamberlain twitter but I think it is wrong to jump on things like that without proof even though it looks likely. It is like doxxing someone. What if it turns out to be someone else?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2022 01:13 PM (Y+l9t)
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I'm waiting for her to deny it.

Waiting ... waiting ... waiting ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 04, 2022 01:22 PM (73Q5c)

571 I do think there is a subset of the Republican coalition form the past few decades who have latched onto the GOP most purely for the issue of abortion. Are they going to suddenly start wishing for more government intervention in other ways and find a voice in "moderate" Democrats?

I think it's possible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (LvTSG)

Eh, yeah. Like the new-cons after 9-11.

Ultimately, they were a big pile of nothing and harmed the Party and conservatives.

The Dims have their own one issue voters I suppose the Reps do as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2022 01:22 PM (LV9Tl)

572 Early prediction. Romney is trying to position himself as the Dem stealth choice in 2024 lol

Posted by: Dufrst at May 04, 2022 01:22 PM (SuuyP)

573 Beck is the PT Barnum of the Right.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2022 01:12 PM (v9ZzX

At least Beck had the courage to admit he was wrong.

I'm not going to denigrate Beck. He's on our side.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (Qhnrt)

I would not trust him standing behind me.

Posted by: rd at May 04, 2022 01:23 PM (Z32m1)

574 Utahlitarian. A very basic, no-frills word.

Posted by: Rich Hall at May 04, 2022 01:23 PM (ql1oC)

575 "Evangelicals and Mormons, for instance, tend to be very liberal on issues like social spending, entitlements, and open borders. They've been voting GOP solely on the issue of abortion for years. Once that issue is mostly removed - I can see a lot of them voting democrat."

Delivered with a straight face, this is great humor...

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 04, 2022 01:14 PM (MkuC5)

I'm serious. I admit this is based on my own conversations with people who are Mormon or evangelical, plus reading things from prominent Mormons or evangelicals.

for instance, why does Utah routinely elect such squishes as Romney and Hatch? b/c they are so severely conservative?

It's real potential issue. Many religious conservatives are ONLY conservative regarding abortion. How will they vote after abortion is not an issue in federal elections?

Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 01:26 PM (ky+MF)

576 mittens only truth: all words are lies given his context changes hourly. a true political, blows like a flag in the wind.

Posted by: gov't here to help at May 04, 2022 01:26 PM (dhA95)

577 But I worry that they will leave once abortion is not longer a main issue in federal electoral politics.
Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 01:19 PM (ky+MF)

If you see ten troubles coming down the road, you can be sure that nine will run into the ditch before they reach you. - Calvin Coolidge

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 04, 2022 01:26 PM (yQpMk)

578 That should be encouraged.

He'd be like Yoo-hoo fighting for market share against Coke and Pepsi.

Only some people actually like You-Hoo (blarg).

Nobody likes Romney.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2022 01:26 PM (LV9Tl)

579 560 "But for a lot of vulnerable women, women who are poor, women of color, they will be forced to have pregnancies that they cannot afford to terminate, and pregnancies that will then turn into children," she added.

***

Turn into what now?

Posted by: Azathoth at May 04, 2022 01:18 PM (wb1YC)

Children. The horror. I guess some people can't hear what they are saying.

Posted by: Javems at May 04, 2022 01:26 PM (AmoqO)

580 If the GOP "leadership" in DC is so shocked how many people still support Trump, the reason is obvious, HE DOESN'T SHIT ON CONSERVATIVE/GOP VOTERS!!!!!!!!

Every election the "leaders" tell us how much they need us to support them and how they can't do it without us, and then they turn around and start shitting on us the moment the election is over.

Mittens and McCain were out begging us to fight with them, but the moment things got a little tough, both were on their knees waiting for Obama to release his "essence" into their waiting mouths.

Fuck 'em. Donald Trump never lied to me, he said he would nominate Justices that respected the Constitution, and damned if he didn't. And this is coming from a guy who was anti-Trump until he secured the nomination.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at May 04, 2022 01:26 PM (HJcWr)

581 The Dems are going to keep making abortion a national election issue by pushing for 'codification' of Roe.

Posted by: davidt at May 04, 2022 01:28 PM (sReZj)

582 If you see ten troubles coming down the road, you can be sure that nine will run into the ditch before they reach you. - Calvin Coolidge

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 04, 2022 01:26 PM (yQpMk)

True. but it doesn't hurt to think things through and try and come up with a way to keep them in the coalition if it becomes an issue in the future (and again - I doubt it will be an issue in 2022 or even 2024 - but going forward after that).

Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 01:30 PM (ky+MF)

583 567 Mehive, Just looked at the recent polling data at Pew which does a lot with religion, policy, and politics. Your concerns are unfounded more or less. It is not the Mormons or evangelists but younger GOP voters that are most stressed by issues like an open border etc. In part because they get cross pressure from their relationships, education, and spend more time on social media.

That is not to say that leadership in evangelicals or Mormons might be more favorably disposed toward more liberal policies but by and large the rank and file are not.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 01:31 PM (Iq9dF)

584 436 419 Oh, shit. . . . Dr Pepper all over the desk. . . . thanks a lot. . . . .
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That's a big 10 2 4 good buddy.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2022 01:32 PM (OTXUv)

585 404 What's the closest Roe ever came to being overturned prior to this?
Posted by: ... at May 04, 2022 01:00 PM (KaHtf)

The day before Roe v Wade was announced.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at May 04, 2022 01:32 PM (HJcWr)

586 Oh, and btw, abortion will still be an issue but one fought out over 50 states plus in Congress. All the ruling would do is move the controversy to elected officials and states rather than federal courts.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 01:33 PM (Iq9dF)

587 585 404 What's the closest Roe ever came to being overturned prior to this?
Posted by: ...

Casey v. Planned Parenthood in 92 which actually junked the trimester portion of Roe and substituted the vague undue burden test on abortion regulation.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 01:34 PM (Iq9dF)

588 @axios
The Republican establishment privately regards J.D. Vance - who won last night's Ohio Republican Senate primary - with the same disgust many felt toward Donald Trump when he entered the White House.

Well, that's a good sign. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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The fact that they leaked to Axios which is was developed as a Stop Trump news source is telling.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 01:36 PM (Iq9dF)

589 Despite what they might do with Roe v Wade, the three Trump appointed Justices have been a disappointment. That said, I do not blame Trump one bit for that. I believe Justice nominations is probably the least control and knowledge a President has. They most all rely on others recommendations.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 04, 2022 01:37 PM (JFJ0Q)

590 That is not to say that leadership in evangelicals or Mormons might be more favorably disposed toward more liberal policies but by and large the rank and file are not.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 01:31 PM (Iq9dF)

Perhaps, but what about the group that are one-issue voters vis a vis abortion? perhaps they won't migrate toe the dems, but what if they don't show up at all?

While true that the GOPe has been totally dishonest about its stance on abortion - The GOPe still leaned on the abortion issue hard for both fundraising and get-out-the-vote efforts. I doubt they leaned on the issue that hard if it didn't bring money and votes that they otherwise wouldn't get.

I'm trying to look ahead, past the next couple of elections.

Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 01:37 PM (ky+MF)

591 It's real potential issue. Many religious conservatives are ONLY conservative regarding abortion. How will they vote after abortion is not an issue in federal elections?

Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 01:26 PM (ky+MF)

It will still be an issue even if this decision comes out. Leftists will be running on appointing justices to reinstate Roe.

Posted by: Liberty at May 04, 2022 01:37 PM (AAAdo)

592 Oh, and btw, abortion will still be an issue but one fought out over 50 states plus in Congress. All the ruling would do is move the controversy to elected officials and states rather than federal courts.

Posted by: whig at May 04, 2022 01:33 PM (Iq9dF)

My guess is that the U.S. congress will leave abortion to the states. To many "moderate" pols on both sides of the aisle who do not want to cast a vote for or against abortion. when you have the filibuster to use as an excuse - why would either party put it up for a vote?

States will not have that excuse. So, my guess is that the abortion issue gets pretty much forgotten about at the federal level. Not to say there won't be activists on either side pushing for legislation, but my bet is most candidates will ignore it and it will no longer move votes or voters in federal elections b/c everyone will realize the fed gov't isn't going to take a stance.

Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 01:40 PM (ky+MF)

593 True. but it doesn't hurt to think things through and try and come up with a way to keep them in the coalition if it becomes an issue in the future (and again - I doubt it will be an issue in 2022 or even 2024 - but going forward after that).
Posted by: Mehive at May 04, 2022 01:30 PM (ky+MF)

let us know if you come up with one.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 04, 2022 01:41 PM (yQpMk)

594 I'm betting the SCOTUS leak was done by multiple clerks... one passing it on to another for dissemination to friendly contacts for further publication.

Let's call it a "network"

There's probably hundreds of them in the capitol city.
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It is severely frowned upon to be discussing decisions before they are released, even amongst former clerks.

Its a canon of ethics thingy.

Posted by: Scalia would threaten to destroy your career and you personally if you did it at May 04, 2022 01:44 PM (EZGJP)

595 I mean its obvious that McMuffin believes in whatever it takes to get him money and power, and that's the bottom line. Its repellent to see politicians so baldly obvious about it but they usually get their reward.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2022 01:44 PM (KZzsI)

596 Oh, and btw, abortion will still be an issue but one fought out over 50 states plus in Congress.

Well providing this actually happens, the ruling could outlaw it everywhere by pointing out that the 14th amendment clearly states that the state cannot deny someone their life without due process. Ruling upon that basis would utterly detonate any attempts to make it legal anywhere.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2022 01:46 PM (KZzsI)

597 Did she also leak Breyer retirement?

Recall that he was forced into announcing it early because of the leak.
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Hmm, possibly. Or, perhaps she decided to leak because she calculated he wouldn't be able to as effectively retaliate against her as a retired Justice. Assuming he is old school enough to want to abide by judicial ethics.

Posted by: Scalia would threaten to destroy your career and you personally if you did it at May 04, 2022 01:47 PM (xkCZo)

598 John Paul Mac Isaac has definitely been defamed by these creeps. But I would make a suggestion to him that he might get more people to take him seriously if he didn't wear a silly beret inside when he is on TV. What is going on with that?

Posted by: Ralph at May 04, 2022 01:56 PM (Qf//C)

599 Exit polling has been consistent for decades - those who identify as "Independent" rarely make it to the polls. When they can be bothered to vote at all, they consistently vote Democrat.

Democrats and Independents are the modern Torries who would gladly enslave us all to the State if given the opportunity. That's why violence has always played such a critical role in pushing back on tyranny prior to the establishment of standing armies across the country.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at May 04, 2022 01:57 PM (yaIs5)

600 In a world of fakes, Mollie Hemingway is the real deal.

Posted by: Shiggz at May 04, 2022 02:11 PM (0FR+3)

601 I live in Utah. We've been Republican a long, long time now (which is actually quite remarkable, considering the Republican party was founded to fight the "twin pillars of barbarism." One was slavery. The other? The LDS Church. So the fact we are a Republican state at all is pretty interesting. It shows how disgusting the Democrats are).

We went Republican in the 60s / 70s--Rockefeller years. And for a while we just, like everyone else, drifted along voting for whichever Republican was put in front of us.

Then we got Senator Bob Bennet. And the Tea party happened and we said, as a base, "enough!" And we threw Bennett over the side. That was incredibly shocking to the GOPe. They have HATED Mike Lee, who replaced Bennett, ever since.

The Utah Democrat party, which only exists in Salt Lake City and Park City, has given up on competing against Lee. Six years ago they ran a transgendered grocery bagger clerk--seriously. Total blowout. This time they aren't even nominating a Democrat, though McMullin is practically one.

McMullin is being pushed by the Donors / media types in Utah. He has no actual support, not now. I've gone to one of his speeches... Not good.

Posted by: Rafal Gan Ganowicz at May 04, 2022 02:17 PM (tgIla)

602 Continued....

So we hear a lot about McMullin, because all the local media is in love with him. We used to have a "conservative" and a "Leftist" paper. Trump broke the Conservative paper, and they have been sprinting to the left for the last 5 years, much to their readership's chagrin. Their board is led by a guy named McMullin.. some sort of relative of Evan. And they are McMullin campaign headquarters, practically. So that's why he gets any press. Not because Republican voters want the douchebag, outside of the NeverTrump contingent. Oh yes, the war between the GOPe / Chamber of Commerce types and actual conservatives for control of the Republican party has been especially fierce here in Utah.

It's why we have several squishes like our governor, and yet the Utah Legislature is pretty solidly red (They are not at all shy about overriding the governor's vetoes). It's like Florida legislature with Linsey Graham as a governor. Thankfully we can mostly ignore the Democrat party.

Posted by: Rafal Gan Ganowicz at May 04, 2022 02:21 PM (tgIla)

603 Mike Lee is also not a conservative.

Posted by: Muthaucker at May 04, 2022 02:24 PM (GWqOK)

604 Ahh yes, Democrats, the party of the people who live in gated communities and drive the long way around to avoid black neighborhoods but will still lecture you about your racism.

Posted by: Shiggz at May 04, 2022 02:34 PM (0SrVS)

605 Mormons are feakin' nut jobs.

Posted by: DeadeyeDan at May 04, 2022 04:19 PM (jY0e3)

606 Overturn Roe vs Wade but don,t stop there next should be the so called Separation of Church and State

Posted by: Tamaa the DRONGO bIRD at May 04, 2022 06:27 PM (wGqjj)

607 Not only is "separation of Church and State" not even Constitutional, we don't have it, anyway. Groomers pushing their CRT cult shit in schools with the blessings of the State is proof enough of that.

Posted by: Saber Alter at May 04, 2022 06:58 PM (EgmK9)

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