We're Officially Unofficially In a Recession as the Government Reports the First Quarter GDP Shrank 1.4%

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Unexpectedly, the most incompetent and socialist (fake) president in history delivers the expected bitter fruits of incompetence and socialism.

The U.S. economy cooled markedly in the first three months of the year, as snarled supply chains, record-high inflation and labor shortages weighed on growth and slowed the pandemic recovery.

Gross domestic product, the broadest measure of goods and services produced across the economy, shrank by 1.4% on an annualized basis in the three-month period from January through March, the Commerce Department said in its first reading of the data on Thursday.

Refinitiv [an analysis/data firm] economists expected the report to show the economy had expanded by 1.1%.

There's your "unexpectedly."

It marked the worst performance since the spring of 2020, when the U.S. economy was still deep in the throes of the COVID-induced recession.


"Today's shock drop in GDP is a wake-up call that the economy isn't as strong as we all thought," said Chris Zaccarelli, chief investment officer for Independent Advisor Alliance. "It's possible that GDP gets revised higher next month, as this is just the first release and there will be two revisions, but it is a warning sign."


I've previously quoted analysts who offered their suspicion that we're currently in a recession, which would soon be officially confirmed as one.

The strict technical definition of a recession is "Two consecutive quarters of negative growth" (shrinkage, as noted economist Costanza would say).


They were pretty certain that given the huge amounts of inflation, and the diminishing "growth" returns from simply coming out of a self-imposed national lockdown, that the second quarter, the upcoming quarter, would be recessionary one.

And they also suspected that the current quarter -- which was actually the one that just passed, the first quarter -- would also turn out to be a quarter of contracting economic activity.

So their idea was:

The then-future second quarter: Just about guaranteed to be a recessionary quarter

The then-current first quarter: Likely to turn out to be a recessionary quarter

So the quarter which they judged to be less likely to be recessionary, the first quarter, just turned out to be recessionary.

The next quarter will almost surely be another quarter of economic contraction, and thus our decrepit, dying-brained Fake President will have created a f***ing recession due to toxic levels of overspending when all he had to do was just open the economy and let the natural rebound effect produce quarter after quarter of growth.

And I can't wait for all the excuses.

And I can't wait for the claims that we just have to spend more and more trillions to fight the inflation caused by the last pile of trillions we injected into the economy, which caused the inflation.

And I can't wait for the media to parrot these claims, and I can't wait for the government's new Disinformation Governance Board to rule that any claim that pouring trillions of Fake New Dollars into an economy causes the value of every dollar in the economy to decline, due to the ancient and iron law of supply and demand, is Russian Disinformation, and that social media companies are required to provide warnings stating that it is such.

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1 It's not even a manufactured shutdown.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:17 PM (LvTSG)

2 Tax the rich.

Sure. I don't care.

Maybe they can learn their lesson about supporting Democrats eventually.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:17 PM (LvTSG)

3 We've been in a recession since 4th quarter 2021 at the minimum. They're just unable to cook the books enough to hide it any more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 28, 2022 01:18 PM (KZzsI)

4 Damn that Putin!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:18 PM (II3Gr)

5 I nooded. Also, f**K Chuck Schumer. I'm already paying $4.50 a gallon of gas and food prices are skyrocketing. What are you going to tax us with when we have no money.

At least the norms have been restored.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:18 PM (XSRBF)

6 I'm surprised they told us that....'cause there's no way we'd know that, unless they told us.

Posted by: BignJames at April 28, 2022 01:18 PM (AwYPR)

7 Schumer is the devil.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2022 01:18 PM (ptqGC)

8 Top ten SPONGE!!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 28, 2022 01:18 PM (6hRHT)

9 Putin's fault.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (Qy7kP)

10 Putin's recession!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (63Dwl)

11 MeanTweet Futures are UP!

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (ZVGkc)

12

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (SWi3y)

13 I'm not quite sure how anyone could have been able to predict this.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (QYPq3)

14 I'm officially unofficially paying a shit ton more for foood and gas than I was under Trump.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (XvPQV)

15
Taxes aren't about collecting money. That's not where the money comes from. Well, most of it, anyway.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (UGDPW)

16 From a financial standpoint, we've been in a recession for a while. Negative interest rates, anyone?

10K in the bank, earns, what, 1% while inflation is running at 2%?

Congrats, you're safely losing money.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (5pTK/)

17 All revved up for Recovery Summer!

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (TNyrE)

18 Gas prices have been reduced from 3.75/gal to 3.99/gal.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (6hRHT)

19 14 I'm officially unofficially paying a shit ton more for foood and gas than I was under Trump.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (XvPQV)

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"Inflation is an upper class problem."
-Ron Klain

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (LvTSG)

20 None of this is a surprise to anyone but the Media.

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (ZVGkc)

21 We've been in a Depression since 2008 with a small Trump Reprieve.

Posted by: ... at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (DgWQv)

22 James Buchanan looks like Lincoln compared to Dementia Joe.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (XSRBF)

23 Who's the woman in yellow standing next to Chuckie?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (63Dwl)

24 On the plus side, at least we did not flood the zone even more with the BBB thingee (what was that 3 trillion?)

Not that it will matter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (dNqv+)

25 Senator Chuck Schumer claims the “only way” to reduce #Bidenflation is to raise taxes on Americans

Do you like Stagflation? 'cause that's how you get Stagflation.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (cupoy)

26 16 From a financial standpoint, we've been in a recession for a while. Negative interest rates, anyone?

10K in the bank, earns, what, 1% while inflation is running at 2%?

Congrats, you're safely losing money.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (5pTK/)

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Don't worry, I have my 401k...

Oh, wait...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (LvTSG)

27 Schumer would've said the only way to stop the Holocaust is to gas more Jews.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (II3Gr)

28 Looking back from late 2023?

These will be considered the Good Old Days.

Buckle up, and hunker down. It is going to get worse. My Word as a Biden!

Posted by: rd at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (Z32m1)

29 I heartily endorse the Schumer plan.

My word as Pierre Dilecto.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (5pTK/)

30 A recession is like a depression. But you still have enough calories to say reeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Posted by: Kamala Harris at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (ppBhU)

31 >>>Gas prices have been reduced from 3.75/gal to 3.99/gal.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt


Wonder how long it will take for my family to bike from Philly to the Outer Banks?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (XSRBF)

32 "Today's shock drop in GDP is a wake-up call that the economy isn't as strong as we all thought," said Chris Zaccarelli, chief investment officer for Independent Advisor Alliance. "It's possible that GDP gets revised higher next month, as this is just the first release and there will be two revisions, but it is a warning sign."
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Why did you think that? This not sensible even from the top-line breakouts of the Q4 GDP print. Yes, that showed growth and a lot of it, but it was all inventory build. Inventories were depleted during COVID, Christmas was coming up, things were starting to relax in terms of restrictions and the supply chains were shot to hell. This led to a massive inventory build. Subtract that inventory build and the Q4 GDP was barely in positive territory.

What on earth made these people think that an inventory-driven blow-out quarter changed any of the decaying fundamentals to the point that they didn't see contraction coming?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (DU+/6)

33 FUCK JOE BI-DEN

*Clap x 2*
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*Clap x 3*

*Repeat*

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (ZVGkc)

34 Why the long faces, everyone?

Buck up there! It's all going to be FINE. Nothing to worry about.

Now scuttle away and resume your toil.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (nKzsY)

35 I'm officially unofficially paying a shit ton more for foood and gas than I was under Trump.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (XvPQV)

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"Inflation is an upper class problem."
-Ron Klain
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (LvTSG)

So...I'm upper class now?
I'd better put some pants on.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (XvPQV)

36 32 What on earth made these people think that an inventory-driven blow-out quarter changed any of the decaying fundamentals to the point that they didn't see contraction coming?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (DU+/6)

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The narrative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (LvTSG)

37 My Bird as a Fry Pan!

Posted by: Joe Bidumb at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (DgWQv)

38 27 Schumer would've said the only way to stop the Holocaust is to gas more Jews.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (II3Gr)

Nah, he would have said raise taxes and greater regulation then too.

It is a magic 8-ball that always says the same thing. 'Expand government.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (dNqv+)

39 Don't worry, I have my 401k...

Oh, wait...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (LvTSG)
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Yeah, about that...

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (5pTK/)

40 Our 401(k)s are now 397(k)s....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (6hRHT)

41 35 So...I'm upper class now?
I'd better put some pants on.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (XvPQV)

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You've always been upper class.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (LvTSG)

42 Gosh you mean the "experts" again predicted a gain and it wound up actually being less or even a loss when it was a democrat in charge. You would think someone would be fully tracking how often they had this happen under Obama, and the also had experts predicting one number under Trump and having it outperform that.

Its almost as if these "experts" are biased and live in a fantasy where they actually think the business crushing policies of the democrats are always actually good and are perplexed by them not succeeding.

Posted by: buzzion at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (vMCab)

43 High inflation, sluggish economy, reduced availability of goods and services. This is the wealthy elite's dream economy. It won't effect them nearly as much as it will those lower down the food chain. So the chasm between the haves and have-nots will widen. Which is the primary directive.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (iFTx/)

44 HaVE TO LAUGH since chewing off my own leg to escape is not possible

The Five stages of grief from Twitter

Denial
Anger
Brgaining
Depression
Paying in Rubles

https://tinyurl.com/2p9hfu7s

Posted by: Kindltot at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (xhaym)

45 If we don't support Joe Biden , Putin will take Poland!11!!

Posted by: runner at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (BP9lK)

46 The Democrats are masters at crashing the economy.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (yQpMk)

47 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (arJlL)

48 >>>Senator Chuck Schumer claims the “only way” to reduce #Bidenflation is to raise taxes on Americans

Do you like Stagflation? 'cause that's how you get Stagflation.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here


Best part is PA will still vote for a Dem governor and a Dem senator. Gawd, I hate this state.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (XSRBF)

49 Don't worry, I have my 401k...

Oh, wait...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:20 PM (LvTSG)

What's that whistling noise ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (M+Lyo)

50 Our 401(k)s are now 397(k)s....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt


367(k).

Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (SvtOj)

51 What on earth made these people think that an inventory-driven blow-out quarter changed any of the decaying fundamentals to the point that they didn't see contraction coming?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (DU+/6)

They aren't honest information brokers, they're propagandists.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (II3Gr)

52 And I can't wait for the media to parrot these claims, and I can't wait for the government's new Disinformation Governance Board to rule that any claim that pouring trillions of Fake New Dollars into an economy causes the value of every dollar in the economy to decline, due to the ancient and iron law of supply and demand, is Russian Disinformation, and that social media companies are required to provide warnings stating that it is such.
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Out of about 75% of the press, this exactly what to expect. The rest will acknowledge that the recession is real but that it is due to a lack of unity and wreckers and hoarders in this country working against the grand visions of our rulers.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (DU+/6)

53

RIP ShadowStats.com. we have been frens since 2007.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (S7azE)

54 A recession is like a depression. But you still have enough calories to say reeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Posted by: Kamala Harris at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (ppBhU)
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That was actually somewhat coherent. Therefore, obviously not Kamala.

Be better.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 28, 2022 01:23 PM (5pTK/)

55 Ukraine officials warn powerful, deadly epidemics could soon break out.

But there are no bio labs there.

Posted by: It's happening at April 28, 2022 01:23 PM (QIABA)

56 43 High inflation, sluggish economy, reduced availability of goods and services. This is the wealthy elite's dream economy. It won't effect them nearly as much as it will those lower down the food chain. So the chasm between the haves and have-nots will widen. Which is the primary directive.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (iFTx/)

What is the point of being of the nomenklatura if there are no perks?

Now we need to get rid of the 'useless people.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 01:23 PM (dNqv+)

57 Why does that picture of Schumer and whoever look like it was taken in the late 80s?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 28, 2022 01:24 PM (R8uWY)

58 Our 401(k)s are now 397(k)s....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt


367(k).
Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (SvtOj)

331(k) next month.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 28, 2022 01:24 PM (6hRHT)

59 "It's possible that GDP gets revised higher next month, as this is just the first release and there will be two revisions, but it is a warning sign."


Mark it here. This isn't a prediction, this is a spoiler: The GDP will be revised lower next month, not higher.

Posted by: buzzion at April 28, 2022 01:24 PM (vMCab)

60
What on earth made these people think

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They don't think. They say. They do. But they don't think. They just take orders.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 28, 2022 01:24 PM (UGDPW)

61 Hey remember when we used to joke the economy sucks but at least no mean tweets?

Well, looks like we are getting a sucky economy AND mean tweets!

I mean that's something right?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:24 PM (ESjRY)

62 Isn't this awesome?!

Posted by: Paul Krugman at April 28, 2022 01:24 PM (QYPq3)

63 Fuck it, I'm going to go watch the Polish Women's 400 meter relay races.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 28, 2022 01:25 PM (XvPQV)

64 KKKKKllll KKll KLPP TOc Toc TLeptocracy

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 28, 2022 01:25 PM (M+Lyo)

65 It's just this war and that lyin son of a bitch Putin!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 28, 2022 01:25 PM (Qy7kP)

66 Mark it here. This isn't a prediction, this is a spoiler: The GDP will be revised lower next month, not higher.
Posted by: buzzion at April 28, 2022 01:24 PM (vMCab)

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It will be 'unexpectedly' revised lower.

Posted by: 496 at April 28, 2022 01:25 PM (U1eOr)

67 Ukraine officials warn powerful, deadly epidemics could soon break out.

/Kicks someone off screen

Yes, is right! Unless someone not get work done on time...uh...to stop diseases.

Posted by: Ukraine officials at April 28, 2022 01:25 PM (ESjRY)

68 Trump Recession!

Posted by: ... at April 28, 2022 01:25 PM (DgWQv)

69 The next quarter will almost surely be another quarter of economic contraction, and thus our decrepit, dying-brained Fake President will have created a f***ing recession due to toxic levels of overspending when all he had to do was just open the economy and let the natural rebound effect produce quarter after quarter of growth.
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Doing nothing would have better than doing what they've done. Trump opened the money spigot way too far and for way too long and that damage was done by the time Biden came into office. We'd have inflation right now regardless.

But the best play when you're bleeding is to stop stabbing yourself in the guts, which Biden and his politburo have *not* done. They took the bad things Trump did - free money, relaxed terms, easy credit, etc. - and doubled down on them while also adding regulatory burden to businesses, crippling the oil industry, doing nothing to address supply chain and transport, creating foreign policy disasters and lobbying for massive spending packages, some of which they got.

They could have handled things worse, but it would be a tall order.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:25 PM (DU+/6)

70 Next, MSM will explain why the inflation you're experiencing isn't really happening, but, it's also a good thing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 28, 2022 01:25 PM (5pTK/)

71 63 Fuck it, I'm going to go watch the Polish Women's 400 meter relay races.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 28, 2022 01:25 PM (XvPQV)

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I think Shin Godzilla has reached my mailbox. I should go get that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:25 PM (LvTSG)

72 I can't wait to hear the reaction when the Fed increases interest rates by 0.5% next week.

Posted by: toddg at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (B3RQo)

73
Its almost as if these "experts" are biased and live in a fantasy where they actually think the business crushing policies of the democrats are always actually good and are perplexed by them not succeeding.

Posted by: buzzion at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (vMCab)


8 out of ten economists will predict what they are paid to predict

Posted by: Kindltot at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (xhaym)

74 Miss Me Yet?

Posted by: The Duly Elected President at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (DgWQv)

75 The point of the government is to loot the productive class.

Most posters on this board are members of the productive class so...mission accomplished?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (ESjRY)

76 Don't see any reason why the third quarter won't also contract. Inflation isn't going to stop.

What do we call three quarters of contraction?

Posted by: Revenant at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (Gcdtg)

77 We're gonna get accommodated.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (II3Gr)

78 42 Gosh you mean the "experts" again predicted a gain and it wound up actually being less or even a loss when it was a democrat in charge. You would think someone would be fully tracking how often they had this happen under Obama, and the also had experts predicting one number under Trump and having it outperform that.

Its almost as if these "experts" are biased and live in a fantasy where they actually think the business crushing policies of the democrats are always actually good and are perplexed by them not succeeding.

Posted by: buzzion
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Carnies shilling games at a fair have more honor and integrity than our expert class.

Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (Iq9dF)

79 I keep reading there are two job for every one person looking. What gives???

Posted by: runner at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (BP9lK)

80 My 401K plan jumping out of a brokerage's 80th story window to splatter itself upon the pavement below may mask the recovery's resilience.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (lMrg3)

81 Schumer's statement reminds me of why Rick Scott is NOT a serious contender to replace Mitch McConnell as majority leader; about a month ago when Scott said he'd like to be majority leader, he immediately followed that announcement with a statement that sounded exactly like what Schumer just said in that clip.

no. just... no.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 28, 2022 01:27 PM (trdmm)

82 I keep reading there are two job for every one person looking. What gives???

Somehow there is no unemployment, but we have the lowest labor participation rate...ever.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:27 PM (ESjRY)

83 "Inflation is an upper class problem."
-Ron Klain
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,


That's not stupidity. That's demonic.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 28, 2022 01:27 PM (IEa8U)

84 What do we call three quarters of contraction?
Posted by: Revenant at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (Gcdtg)

Time to go to the maternity ward.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:27 PM (II3Gr)

85 It's a transitory recession.

Posted by: ... at April 28, 2022 01:27 PM (DgWQv)

86 Polish Women's 400 meter relay races.

Speak to me of these Polish women...

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 28, 2022 01:27 PM (6hRHT)

87 US GDP will fall below 20T and our Deb/GDP will be somewhere between 160-170pct.


Heckuva job shitheads.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 28, 2022 01:27 PM (lBjrg)

88 Why does that picture of Schumer and whoever look like it was taken in the late 80s?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

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I think that is Michigan's own Deb Stabenow. She's a strong contender for Most Stupid Senator, but Patty Murray and what's her name from Hawaii are more visible.

If you had a metric for stupidity per comment, Debbie might top the list.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at April 28, 2022 01:27 PM (+UdNK)

89 What do we call three quarters of contraction?
Posted by: Revenant at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (Gcdtg)

Lucky, with these idiots in charge

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 28, 2022 01:28 PM (M+Lyo)

90 Good thing a Democrat is President, or this would be REALLY bad.

Posted by: unknown at April 28, 2022 01:28 PM (l5Vae)

91 It takes 3-4 months for all of the effects to work their way through the system. Warehouses are still emptying, etc. Next quarter will be worse, and the one after that.

Meanwhile, the fed needs to jack interest rates by about 300% to stop the inflation, which will hit the stock market as well as the general economy. Get ready for a wild ride.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 28, 2022 01:28 PM (5kI0z)

92 The left claims to believe debt/inflation are meaningless due to MMT.

Well, not to brag or anything, but...I'm going to have to teach them a thing or two

Posted by: The Gods of the Copybook Headings at April 28, 2022 01:28 PM (ESjRY)

93 The markets are up between 2% and 3%.
So actually the Depression we have been in since Fall of 2008 is good thing.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 01:28 PM (S7azE)

94 What do we call three quarters of contraction?
Posted by: Revenant at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (Gcdtg)
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Recession. Depending on who you ask, "depression" doesn't start until 4 or six consecutive quarters of contraction and/or a 10% or greater peak-to-trough reduction in GDP.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (DU+/6)

95 >>> We're gonna get accommodated.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (II3Gr)


[excitedly!] After we all get back from getting tutored?

Posted by: banana Dream riding in the car to the vet at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (lMrg3)

96 76 Don't see any reason why the third quarter won't also contract. Inflation isn't going to stop.

What do we call three quarters of contraction?
Posted by: Revenant at April 28, 2022 01:26 PM (Gcdtg)

A longer recession...it takes at least 3 years of suck to get to a depression...

Posted by: Nova local at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (exHjb)

97
Brandon's always a mess. But the whole "we're gonna accommodate the klimma-klamma-kleboptocrats, you betcha fat, we'll accommodate them hahahaha LOL" routine from this morning was pure gold. Worst I've seen him thus far, with the possible exception of when he told reporters he shit himself on Marine One, and some poor staffer had to wipe up his redolent old Communist buttstink.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (UGDPW)

98 And I can't wait for all the excuses.

No President in history, not even the great James Earl Carter, has ever produced a recession of this quality before while simultaneously making the nation a laughing stock on the world stage.

All hail Potato-Head!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (uvymP)

99 90 Good thing a Democrat is President, or this would be REALLY bad.
Posted by: unknown at April 28, 2022 01:28 PM (l5Vae)



Yeah they wouldn't be hiding the real numbers behind the planned revision next report.

Posted by: buzzion at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (vMCab)

100 Biden BOOM baby!

Just don't throw off his groove, jack.

Posted by: nightfly at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (KT41q)

101 >It marked the worst performance since the spring of 2020, when the U.S. economy was still deep in the throes of the COVID-induced recession.

WRONG. It wasn't coof that caused it, the was the ridiculous response to coof that was the cause.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (WzZ44)

102 31 No need to bike, Wyatt. Take a trip over to Lancaster and visit Yoder's Horse and Buggy Rentals. They will be the only ones making bank before this nightmare is over. Dress appropriately, black hat, blue shirt, you know the drill.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (lz5hY)

103 Don't worry, chaps. BiteMe has a plan...

@JackPosobiec 2h

BREAKING: Biden requests $33 Billion more from Congress for weapons shipments to Ukraine

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (IEa8U)

104 Good thing a Democrat is President, or this would be REALLY bad.

Posted by: unknown at April 28, 2022 01:28 PM (l5Vae)

Like Climate Change bad.

Posted by: BignJames at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (AwYPR)

105 You want Polish sprinters

You expect to get Polish midlevel manager-esses

You'll get the Polish economy of 1984

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (ESjRY)

106 43 High inflation, sluggish economy, reduced availability of goods and services. This is the wealthy elite's dream economy. It won't effect them nearly as much as it will those lower down the food chain. So the chasm between the haves and have-nots will widen. Which is the primary directive.

Posted by: Elric Blade
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Yes and no. The true issue is that inventory investment which is always the forgotten variable in GDP is falling through the floor as would be expected in stagflation. Even the richer get screwed over time by inflation as it prevents formation of future wealth. If it is bad enough, even the wealthy are affected because stagflation is usually followed by a severe recession/depression that provokes political unrest.

Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (Iq9dF)

107 And it's all on purpose. Punitive for our insolence, and intended to punish us for our support of Trump and getting uppity with our economy, jobs, household wealth, etc. a couple of years ago.

Remember, we were in the best economy in decades just three short years ago. They destroyed it intentionally.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (fOPux)

108 Biden BOOM baby!

Just don't throw off his groove, jack.
Posted by: nightfly at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (KT41q)

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Yeah, just watch the economy detonate!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (5pTK/)

109 Although now I see Wiki says 2 years for a depression...guess they want one to hit while the Dems are still in the executive office...

Posted by: Nova local at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (exHjb)

110 > What do we call three quarters of contraction?

A ruined orgasm.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (S7azE)

111 27 Schumer would've said the only way to stop the Holocaust is to gas more Jews.
Posted by: Insomniac



Heh!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (4eKPg)

112 LOL part of the Ukraine spending that the White House is requesting is to:

"Counter Russian disinformation and propaganda narratives, promote accountability for Russian human rights violation, and support activists, journalists, and independent media to defend freedom of expression."

Posted by: Revenant at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (Gcdtg)

113 A longer recession...it takes at least 3 years of suck to get to a depression...
Posted by: Nova local at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (exHjb)

They kept changing the definition so that it would never apply to democrat presidents.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (dNqv+)

114 BREAKING: Biden requests $33 Billion more from Congress for weapons shipments to Ukraine

*

Not one penny for peace talks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (fOPux)

115 Meanwhile, the fed needs to jack interest rates by about 300% to stop the inflation, which will hit the stock market as well as the general economy. Get ready for a wild ride.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 28, 2022 01:28 PM (5kI0z)
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Which will also cripple the federal government. The Fed can't get away with just an interest rate rise. They have to drain their balance sheet, too, and suck a lot of those excess dollars out of the system. That is going to murder equities and bonds. They might try monetizing the federal debt while raising rates and shrinking the balance sheet to slurp out more money than the feds dump in through their fiscal malpractice. As far as I know, that's never been tried before but then again we're also getting in to YOLO territory.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (DU+/6)

116 >>>No need to bike, Wyatt. Take a trip over to Lancaster and visit Yoder's Horse and Buggy Rentals. They will be the only ones making bank before this nightmare is over. Dress appropriately, black hat, blue shirt, you know the drill.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin


Aw, I don't want ice cream on my face!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (XSRBF)

117 Remember, we were in the best economy in decades just three short years ago. They destroyed it intentionally.

The Trump economy was arguably the best...ever. Especially for the working/middle class

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:31 PM (ESjRY)

118 I confess, I do not know much about economics.

Isn't recession a good thing?

In school, recess was my favorite subject. It was when we all got to stop working and just sit around and play or smoke cigarettes behind the gymnasium.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 28, 2022 01:31 PM (v31Ye)

119 Interest rate hike by 1/2 point in May will kick the growth in the nuts.

Buckle up.

Posted by: redenzo at April 28, 2022 01:31 PM (E7vND)

120 Aw, I don't want ice cream on my face!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (XSRBF)

You blew a seal.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:31 PM (II3Gr)

121 Why did you think that? This not sensible even from the top-line breakouts of the Q4 GDP print. Yes, that showed growth and a lot of it, but it was all inventory build. Inventories were depleted during COVID, Christmas was coming up, things were starting to relax in terms of restrictions and the supply chains were shot to hell. This led to a massive inventory build. Subtract that inventory build and the Q4 GDP was barely in positive territory.

What on earth made these people think that an inventory-driven blow-out quarter changed any of the decaying fundamentals to the point that they didn't see contraction coming?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (DU+/6)
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Because they wanted to believe other things that support their political outlook. There were more than enough warning signs to tell any decent economist what was coming. They just closed their eyes.

Posted by: Black JEM at April 28, 2022 01:31 PM (LyTO1)

122 Market indexes are up bigly today (after a week of mostly taking a shit) almost as if they expected worse news

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 28, 2022 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

123 Two "jobs" for every guy...

https://youtu.be/HSS5xujeRaY

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 28, 2022 01:31 PM (6hRHT)

124 “Unexpectedly, the most incompetent and socialist (fake) president in history delivers the expected bitter fruits of incompetence and socialism.”

Incompetence implies that this isn’t a desired outcome.

Posted by: 7man at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (qwO6y)

125 >>>BREAKING: Biden requests $33 Billion more from Congress for weapons shipments to Ukraine

Not one penny for peace talks.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters


Chances of the GOP allowing this? 98.6 percent

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (XSRBF)

126 I suppose I'm the only one who think Schumer has a seriously punchable face.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (eGTCV)

127 Meanwhile, yes California, I am happy to give you more money in gas tax for the fine services you’re providing for us and the majority of the nations homeless who are now living here.

Posted by: keena at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (RiTnx)

128 But 50 economists signed a letter swearing that they won't do that thing in your mouth inflation is not caused by the printing of too much money. They're credentialed and you're not. Stop with this malinformation.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (WzZ44)

129 When Carter screwed things up we had a halfway honest press. The current MSM is going to be lying their way through brick walls to cover for Biden's mess.

Posted by: 29Victor at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (BJKQV)

130 The Trump economy was arguably the best...ever. Especially for the working/middle class
Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:31 PM (ESjRY)

Being communists, they HATE the middle class.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (II3Gr)

131 WRONG. It wasn't coof that caused it, the was the ridiculous response to coof that was the cause.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (WzZ44)


My thoughts as well. We could have absorbed the disruption of "two weeks to flatten the curve" but we all know that the objective was to flatten Trump's booming economy. Thus the continued shutdown even after it was obvious that it was not helping.

Posted by: Emmie at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (6RgRK)

132 So Schumer says we need higher taxes and higher rates to deal with inflation (he isn't exactly wrong on rates, but his position on taxes is absurd), but no Republican will ever allow that and so the only way to deal with inflation is reconciliation.

How will reconciliation tackle inflation, exactly?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (DU+/6)

133 Build Back Better!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (63Dwl)

134 It's weird, because I sort of remember earlier this year when Biden and Psaki and all the rest were spiking the football because everyone who wasn't allowed to go to work during the government required employer shutdowns went back to work, and that was the greatest job gains in history or something even though we didn't gain a single job.

How can that coincide with this?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (fOPux)

135 >>>You blew a seal.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker.


"Allegedly."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (XSRBF)

136 The Biden economy is a thing in America. It exists next to another economy called the Trump economy. The Trump economy is bigger. The Trump economy decided to invade a smaller economy called the Biden economy so basically, that’s wrong

Posted by: Kamala Harris at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (ESjRY)

137 Chances of the GOP allowing this? 98.6 percent

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (XSRBF)



I stand with Ukraine.

In bread lines.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (v31Ye)

138 122 Market indexes are up bigly today (after a week of mostly taking a shit) almost as if they expected worse news
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 28, 2022 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

Nope, they expect the fed to chicken out and make it a .25 rate hike next week...

Posted by: Nova local at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (exHjb)

139 Democrats "govern" like elections don't matter anymore. Funny that.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (TKZuJ)

140 >>>I suppose I'm the only one who think Schumer has a seriously punchable face.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh


No, we all think that.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (XSRBF)

141 What exactly is meant by reconciliation?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (63Dwl)

142 We've always had idiots in high places in government. Malicious and oikophobic idiots are a new phenomenon.

Posted by: Ordinary American at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (H8QX8)

143 128 But 50 economists signed a letter swearing that they won't do that thing in your mouth inflation is not caused by the printing of too much money. They're credentialed and you're not. Stop with this malinformation.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (WzZ44)

Just like the scientists signed that thing saying lockdowns were a horrible idea?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (dNqv+)

144 >Taxes aren't about collecting money. That's not where the money comes from. Well, most of it, anyway.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 28, 2022 01:19 PM (UGDPW)

On the federal level, correct. They're a tool to punish the disfavored, nothing more.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (WzZ44)

145 Mortgage applications are down 50% and the Feds not done raising rates. The decline in the housing market alone will be enough to be in recession.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (UuD2k)

146 Sometimes I review the news and really question the wisdom of my decision to quit drinking.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (sWM8x)

147 Nothing's built. Nothing's back. Nothing's better.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (DU+/6)

148 BREAKING: Biden requests $33 Billion more from Congress for weapons shipments to Ukraine


Greased palms always need to feed.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (4eKPg)

149 Two "jobs" for every guy...

I have a theory part of the reason that Europe was so peaceful post WWII is that there were 2 girls for every guy...well...maybe 1.2 but the point stands.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (ESjRY)

150 138 122 Market indexes are up bigly today (after a week of mostly taking a shit) almost as if they expected worse news
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 28, 2022 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

Nope, they expect the fed to chicken out and make it a .25 rate hike next week...
Posted by: Nova local at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (exHjb)
______________________________

Same thing. I think half of this is battlespace prep to keep the Fed from doing anything drastic.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (iFTx/)

151 What exactly is meant by reconciliation?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (63Dwl)
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It means the GOP and the DNC will get together and make sure their respective constituents get screwed.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (5pTK/)

152 >>>WRONG. It wasn't coof that caused it, the was the ridiculous response to coof that was the cause.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 01:29 PM (WzZ44)

As some guy on Tw@tter said: You're about the find out why you can never shutdown the economy for anything ever.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (QYPq3)

153 How will reconciliation tackle inflation, exactly?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (DU+/6)

Hey! Mind your own business!

Posted by: BignJames at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (AwYPR)

154 >>> What exactly is meant by reconciliation?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (63Dwl)


Your wallet or your life, pal.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (lMrg3)

155 I nooded. Also, f**K Chuck Schumer. I'm already paying $4.50 a gallon of gas and food prices are skyrocketing. What are you going to tax us with when we have no money.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:18 PM (XSRBF)


Frankly, if the citizens of this country must starve to death so that I can spend money on my priorities...I will consider it well worth it. -- Chuck Schumer (allegedly)

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (uvymP)

156 Waw, it's what they want.

Posted by: Eromero at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (gktX6)

157 Was I blown? Well...I'll never tell.

/winks

Posted by: The seal at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (ESjRY)

158 I bonds are paying 7.23% rn and that will jump over 9% on Sunday.

You're welcome.

Posted by: I Mean at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (weH4U)

159 139 Democrats "govern" like elections don't matter anymore. Funny that.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (TKZuJ)

This. YOLO Stalin.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (dNqv+)

160
Same thing. I think half of this is battlespace prep to keep the Fed from doing anything drastic.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (iFTx/)


My assumption is that the Fed will wait until after November to blow it all up.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (wmDcS)

161 I have a theory part of the reason that Europe was so peaceful post WWII is that there were 2 girls for every guy...well...maybe 1.2 but the point stands.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (ESjRY)
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I'm pretty sure American soldiers stationed in Europe after WWII were happy, too.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (5pTK/)

162 Mortgage applications are down 50% and the Feds not done raising rates. The decline in the housing market alone will be enough to be in recession.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (UuD2k)
++++
It feels a whole lot like it's about to turn, at least where I am. Inventory is really low in my area, which is weird for this time of year when it should be building. Houses are sitting around on the market here, which wasn't true last year when going under contract in the same day was common. And this is in a part of the country that is very popular for relocation.

It feels like a top. We'll see.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (DU+/6)

163 Meanwhile, the fed needs to jack interest rates by about 300% to stop the inflation, which will hit the stock market as well as the general economy. Get ready for a wild ride.

Posted by: Thomas Paine
---------------------
Effectively the Fed cannot raise it very much as that would shortly bankrupt the FedGov. The other tool is demand suppression which is by killing employment and demand for goods consequently. This is probably the path they will take.

Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (Iq9dF)

164 And keep in mind that they will not allow farmers to plant crops on some of their acreage due to "climate change" set asides. Europe is doing the same stupid thing. It's hard to say who is more concerned; the financial vlogs I watch or the homesteading vlogs I watch.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (5HBd1)

165 Chances of the GOP allowing this? 98.6 percent
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:32 PM (XSRBF)



The Republicans will bump it to $40B.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (yQpMk)

166 Makes you want to start taking drugs.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (II3Gr)

167 Pepperidge Farm remembers when politicians were afraid of getting voted out of office for intentionally tanking the economy.

Posted by: The seal at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (ESjRY)

168 Back to the Jimmy Carter stagflation days. We have massive inflation combined with a collapsing economy. All thanks to Biden.


US economy shrank 1.4% at beginning of 2022, marking worst quarter in 2 years

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (mZwKe)

169 I have been saving for 30 years for retirement. Watching inflation eat up my savings is depressing. F these people.
I have been a diligent saver and now I will pay for it.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (M+Lyo)

170 I ve already maxed out my I bonds this year. But here's a sobering thought.

I bond real yield is 0%. It just keeps pace with inflation.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 28, 2022 01:37 PM (UuD2k)

171 Chances of the GOP allowing this? 98.6 percent
Posted by: Wyatt Earp


Mark Levin was beating his war-dick again yesterday and repeated his wish that Poootin gets one in the dome.

Something happened to Levin. He's become a f'ing weirdo.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 28, 2022 01:37 PM (IEa8U)

172 The Trump economy was arguably the best...ever. Especially for the working/middle class
Posted by: 18-1

*

Yep. IIRC there was $4500 in median household wealth gained, and that was while both parties were investigating and working against Trump. It's incredible to think about where we'd be if they loved America and their countrymen.

Regardless, then the Democrats figured out a way to take that $4500 away because they were angry that 2020 went like it did, and now that same household has to pay $400 extra every month just to maintain the same standard of living they had a couple of years ago.

I know the rules about math here, but
$400 x 12 = $4800

Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 01:37 PM (fOPux)

173
I'm pretty sure American soldiers stationed in Europe after WWII were happy, too.


I've met many older couples (WWII era) that were an American man and a French/German/Italian woman.

Posted by: The seal at April 28, 2022 01:37 PM (ESjRY)

174 141 What exactly is meant by reconciliation?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 28, 2022 01:33 PM (63Dwl)

"reconciliation" is a special carve-out from normal Senate Filibuster rules where, once a year they get to exempt one big budget bill, after going back and forth with the House, and pass it with only 50 votes. They were trying to pass the BBB this way, but Manchin wouldn't play.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 28, 2022 01:38 PM (trdmm)

175 lol

@elonmusk - 16h

Next I'm buying Coca-Cola to put the cocaine back in.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2022 01:38 PM (ptqGC)

176 much as that would shortly bankrupt the FedGov.

Speak to me of this bankrupting process...
It gets me hard.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 28, 2022 01:38 PM (6hRHT)

177 And start stockpiling Kools and Newports before the ban hits.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:38 PM (II3Gr)

178 I have been a diligent saver and now I will pay for it.

Sounds right to us!

Posted by: Democrat grasshoppers at April 28, 2022 01:38 PM (ESjRY)

179 Ukraine officials warn powerful, deadly epidemics could soon break out.


Lead poisoning.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 01:38 PM (SvtOj)

180 my decision to quit drinking.

reconciliation = time to start again.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at April 28, 2022 01:38 PM (J/+fm)

181 These idiots need to keep in mind the fate of Robbespierre.

Posted by: observer at April 28, 2022 01:38 PM (Eo4V3)

182 50 Our 401(k)s are now 397(k)s....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt


367(k).
Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (SvtOj)

I'm looking at a 347k

Posted by: Inogame at April 28, 2022 01:39 PM (53oGX)

183 178 And start stockpiling Kools and Newports before the ban hits.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:38 PM (II3Gr)

Sure, richie rich. Have you seen the cost of a carton?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 01:39 PM (dNqv+)

184 The only way to reduce government is to hang some senators for treason.

After a legal trail just like those J 6 people.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 28, 2022 01:39 PM (J8LnB)

185 Coca eeeeeneh

Posted by: observer at April 28, 2022 01:39 PM (Eo4V3)

186 Did formal command of the Ukraine war change on the Russian side? They changed focus if not strategy (though maybe both) and it does seem to be working for them.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:39 PM (ESjRY)

187 What on earth made these people think that an inventory-driven blow-out quarter changed any of the decaying fundamentals to the point that they didn't see contraction coming?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:21 PM (DU+/6)


This is what the world has become...

BlueCheckmark1 lies about something on Twitter. BlueCheckmark2 believes it (cuz it's been fact checked) and acts on the that basis. Hilarity ensues.

We're ruled by imbeciles.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at April 28, 2022 01:39 PM (uvymP)

188 Stocks up yuuuuuuge on the news. It means interest rates won’t go sky high after all. And Wall St lurves itself some 0% rates.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at April 28, 2022 01:39 PM (3vQN0)

189 179 Ukraine officials warn powerful, deadly epidemics could soon break out.


Is that a warning or a threat ?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 28, 2022 01:40 PM (dvgPQ)

190 Effectively the Fed cannot raise it very much as that would shortly bankrupt the FedGov. The other tool is demand suppression which is by killing employment and demand for goods consequently. This is probably the path they will take.
Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (Iq9dF)

the third path is to just do nothing effective at all, and let inflation accelerate into hyperinflation. This is always the easiest politically (at least in the short term) Then somebody else has to clean up the mess.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 28, 2022 01:40 PM (trdmm)

191
I think we're pretty much through the good part, where the old crook is suffering from the dementia. He's just gone, now. We get to suffer with it, still, but he's not.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 28, 2022 01:40 PM (UGDPW)

192 Pepperidge Farm remembers when politicians were afraid of getting voted out of office for intentionally tanking the economy.
Posted by: The seal at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (ESjRY)


We're in this mess in large part because for the past twenty years politicians have refused to allow the economy to fully correct itself. We're still seeing the impacts of 2008, and the response, rippling through the system.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 28, 2022 01:40 PM (wmDcS)

193
"pleasure based" sex education

They admit. They brag about it. They flaunt it. They demand it.

More like "education."

Groomers. Pedophiles.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at April 28, 2022 01:40 PM (/cyq8)

194 It's inflation so you have to change your thinking. Anything planned purchases should be done sooner rather than later. Keep stocking up food and tools that will be useful.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at April 28, 2022 01:41 PM (5HBd1)

195 I'm looking at a 347k
Posted by: Inogame at April 28, 2022 01:39 PM (53oGX)

If this shit keeps up, it will be an AK-47...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 28, 2022 01:41 PM (6hRHT)

196 152 As some guy on Tw@tter said: You're about the find out why you can never shutdown the economy for anything ever.
Posted by: Paul Krugman at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (QYPq3)

======

But climate change!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:41 PM (LvTSG)

197 189 179 Ukraine officials warn powerful, deadly epidemics could soon break out.

Is that a warning or a threat ?
Posted by: It's me donna at April 28, 2022 01:40 PM (dvgPQ)

Hope. A deadly epidemic would be just what the doctor ordered for the Dems, they hope. Get everyone's mind right again.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 01:41 PM (dNqv+)

198
BlueCheckmark1 lies about something on Twitter. BlueCheckmark2 believes it (cuz it's been fact checked) and acts on the that basis. Hilarity ensues.


I call it narrative overdrive. Every lefty cog believes the news they are given is straight and therefore at their level they tweak it left, because issue X is serious and we have to make sure the proles understand! It isn't lying...its just making sure the importance gets through!

This leads to just about everyone locked in the system having a poor understanding the actual real world.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:41 PM (ESjRY)

199 Best part is PA will still vote for a Dem governor and a Dem senator. Gawd, I hate this state.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (XSRBF)


Well...that's what the results will say anyway.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at April 28, 2022 01:41 PM (uvymP)

200 >>> Ukraine officials warn powerful, deadly epidemics could soon break out.


Is that a warning or a threat ?
Posted by: It's me donna at April 28, 2022 01:40 PM (dvgPQ)


Well it worked, didn't it?

Posted by: China channeling Harry Reid at April 28, 2022 01:41 PM (lMrg3)

201 US economy shrank 1.4% at beginning of 2022, marking worst quarter in 2 years
Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2022 01:36 PM (mZwKe)
++++
Yeah, the first quarter of COVID was brutal. Take out the COVID quarters, and you have to go back to 2011Q3 to get a print at -1.4 or worse (it was also -1.4 in that quarter). So excepting the COVID quarters, it is the worst print in almost 11 years.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:42 PM (DU+/6)

202 I'm already paying $4.50 a gallon of gas and food prices are skyrocketing.

*

Yep. For the first time in my kids' lives they're hearing me tell them "we can't afford that" at the grocery store.

A middle to upper middle class family that lived fairly high on the hog up to two years ago now watching our pennies because who the f*ck knows from one day to the next what Our Betters are going to do to us.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 01:42 PM (fOPux)

203 You know what this means? Good news! The chocolate ration will be INCREASED!

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at April 28, 2022 01:42 PM (buqBu)

204 Is that a warning or a threat ?

Da!

Posted by: Some Ukrainian Official at April 28, 2022 01:42 PM (ESjRY)

205 The Fed will raise 50 bps next week.

It's nearly set in stone.

Posted by: I Mean at April 28, 2022 01:42 PM (mbiK4)

206 This is all before Title 42 is lifted with a flood of illegals to come. Even though a court has halted the lifting for now, I have zero faith that this will hold. The Marxist are desperate for a new voting block and will stop at nothing to make this happen.

Murders, rapes, Fentanyl, cocaine, and heroin as far as the eye can see, and mass gang activity that the elites will never have to deal with is all waiting for the rest of us.

It is to weep. Every night I pray to God to heal our world and that justice prevails over evil. We'll see.

Posted by: Cheri at April 28, 2022 01:42 PM (oiNtH)

207 Awwww, MUMR. It'll be all right.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 01:42 PM (dNqv+)

208 "pleasure based" sex education

They admit. They brag about it. They flaunt it. They demand it.

More like "education."

Groomers. Pedophiles.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at April 28, 2022 01:40 PM (/cyq


They have this weird myth that somehow previous generations didn't like sex and didn't know you could have sex for fun. It's a fucking religious movement that they have to teach your children to embrace the pursuit of pleasure above all else.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 28, 2022 01:42 PM (wmDcS)

209 If the federal government said the economy shrank 14%, the economy really shrank by 3.2%. I'm sure that this number will be revised up. That will be evan a bigger lie.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 28, 2022 01:43 PM (iDcra)

210 Ukraine officials warn powerful, deadly epidemics could soon break out.

*

Say, guess whose prominent and currently serving politicians' families were funding the bioweapons labs in Ukraine and Wuhan?

Go ahead. Guess.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 01:43 PM (fOPux)

211 Is it love? Don't hurt me...don't hurt me no more!

Posted by: Going out to MUMR at April 28, 2022 01:43 PM (ESjRY)

212 I've met many older couples (WWII era) that were an American man and a French/German/Italian woman.
Posted by: The seal

Kinky.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 01:43 PM (SvtOj)

213
What is with all the new childhood hepatitis?

Is this vax related and nobody is saying anything?

Posted by: Yo! at April 28, 2022 01:43 PM (xktJs)

214 I wish for Schumer to be gang raped by a bunch of wild howler monkeys.

Posted by: Cheri at April 28, 2022 01:43 PM (oiNtH)

215 I think the real issue with the otters is just jealousy that seals get all the action.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 28, 2022 01:43 PM (z9npv)

216 Starve the poor and you get riots. Starve the middle class and you get a revolution.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 28, 2022 01:44 PM (Qy7kP)

217 171 Chances of the GOP allowing this? 98.6 percent
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Mark Levin was beating his war-dick again yesterday and repeated his wish that Poootin gets one in the dome. Something happened to Levin. He's become a f'ing weirdo. Posted by: weft cut-loop
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A certain group of GOPsters cannot let go that current Russia does not equal the Soviet Union. I am no fan of Putin's Russia as even Tsarist Russia created substantial unrest in Europe by territorial ambitions. But, the hubris bred into a group of intellectuals from 'winning' the Cold War meant they thought they could make other countries democratic directly through invasion and/or subversion.

Long and short--you can't. There is no magic concoction that will create a long standing democracy in a country where the culture and society will not support one. Best you can do as a country is serve as an example to aspire to emulate.

Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 01:44 PM (Iq9dF)

218 I wish for Schumer to be gang raped by a bunch of wild howler monkeys.

WE HAVE STANDARDS YOU KNOW

/Throws poop at Cheri

Posted by: a bunch of wild howler monkeys at April 28, 2022 01:44 PM (ESjRY)

219 This busty brunette in white wonders what the real number is:
https://bit.ly/39pPTC4

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:45 PM (DU+/6)

220 It's a fucking religious movement that they have to teach your children to embrace the pursuit of pleasure above all else.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 28, 2022 01:42 PM (wmDcS)

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I guess the 14 year old kid who murdered and raped his 10 year old cousin got the memo. He was obsessed with sex.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2022 01:45 PM (ptqGC)

221 170 I ve already maxed out my I bonds this year. But here's a sobering thought.

I bond real yield is 0%. It just keeps pace with inflation.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 28, 2022 01:37 PM (UuD2k)

Nah, inflation is wildly undersold - loss is probably always 1/2 the reported inflation rate...which is still better than anything around right now for free cash...

Posted by: Nova local at April 28, 2022 01:45 PM (exHjb)

222 @171

>>Something happened to Levin. He's become a f'ing weirdo.

Nah, he's just an unreconstructed Cold Warrior, Reaganite.

He's running very old firmware that can't be updated.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 28, 2022 01:45 PM (lBjrg)

223 If it is bad enough, even the wealthy are affected because stagflation is usually followed by a severe recession/depression that provokes political unrest.
Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (Iq9dF)

Yes and couple that with institutionalised censorship, political and domestic spying, political crimes, wokeness and cultural chaos, and the encouragement of war with Russia, and the bread of tyranny is baking in the oven as we speak. All preliminary to November mischief.

Posted by: 7man at April 28, 2022 01:45 PM (qwO6y)

224 Starve the poor and you get riots. Starve the middle class and you get a revolution.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

*

The administration/deep state's actions really seem to either be trying to prepare for that, or prepare for when people start to realize what the injections did to them and their kids.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 01:45 PM (fOPux)

225 202
Yep. For the first time in my kids' lives they're hearing me tell them "we can't afford that" at the grocery store.

A middle to upper middle class family that lived fairly high on the hog up to two years ago now watching our pennies because who the f*ck knows from one day to the next what Our Betters are going to do to us.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 01:42 PM (fOPux)

Stockpiling, grow your own veggies.... Going to be a while before we get out of this mess.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 28, 2022 01:46 PM (N39Ws)

226 I bonds are paying 7.23% rn and that will jump over 9% on Sunday.

You're welcome.
Posted by: I Mean

Guess I will have to start buying those for my kids along with silver, ammo and war brides.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 01:46 PM (6exEJ)

227 188 Stocks up yuuuuuuge on the news. It means interest rates won’t go sky high after all. And Wall St lurves itself some 0% rates.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at April 28, 2022 01:39 PM (3vQN0)

Until they realize interest rates must go higher and they must endure some pain in order to get through all this.

Posted by: observer at April 28, 2022 01:46 PM (Eo4V3)

228 America must be punished for electing Trump.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 28, 2022 01:46 PM (m0zqP)

229 I call it narrative overdrive. Every lefty cog believes the news they are given is straight and therefore at their level they tweak it left, because issue X is serious and we have to make sure the proles understand! It isn't lying...its just making sure the importance gets through!

This leads to just about everyone locked in the system having a poor understanding the actual real world.
Posted by: 18-1

Who promised them that they'd never be lied to?
Was it daddy? I'll bet it was daddy. The first lie.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 01:46 PM (SvtOj)

230 You want Polish sprinters

You expect to get Polish midlevel manager-esses

You'll get the Polish economy of 1984

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM


I can haz Polish milkmaids?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 28, 2022 01:46 PM (RkC6l)

231 Yeah, and while we slide into this recession, let's spend a few trillion of taxpayer dollars on Ukraine, a country as authoritarian and un-democratic as anything out there, because it make us feel good to dis the satanic bad guy Putin.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 28, 2022 01:47 PM (KiBMU)

232 Some of the established GOPe types, like Levin, are locked into the news bubble on the Ukraine/Russia war.

So Russia is mass killing civilians! And the quietly...but actually not...and on and on.

Posted by: a bunch of wild howler monkeys at April 28, 2022 01:47 PM (ESjRY)

233 whig, re your O2 problem. Breathe steam.

I learned this from a vocal major [opera] at school.
Three times a day, pot of water on the stove, wait for steam, put a towel over your head to help capture the steam, 15 minutes a session, careful not to take in too hot.

While you are breathing deep breaths - vocalize.
Laaaaaaaaaaaaa from the diaphragm just like Pavarotti.

I'll be back with more.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 28, 2022 01:47 PM (OMAvJ)

234 Kinda OT. Did anybody see footage of Putin attending Easter services? One of the most beautiful churches I've ever seen.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 28, 2022 01:47 PM (lz5hY)

235 Keep stocking up food and tools that will be useful.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at April 28, 2022 01:41 PM (5HBd1)

Since I saw my boxed dairy free cake mix and brownie mix regular price was almost doubled at my grocery, I may or may not have picked up 15 boxes or so from Target and Walmart in online purchases. Sorry to those folks around here who probably are gonna find the empty local shelves where I bought them from (and this will probably last me 1 month the way my kids are eating)...

Posted by: Nova local at April 28, 2022 01:47 PM (exHjb)

236 Only about 5 analysts out of ~65 predicted this. They will sandbag the next two reports before the midterms and suddenly adjust them, after the election. Look at the reporting categories and it gets worse. Defense spending is down, and they're trying to fix that by studding money into Ukraine. Inventories are also down on autos. Guess how many people will be buying autos next cycle with inflation and rates going up. Watch sectors like consumer credit, mostly based on rates. It's going to be a bloodbath at some point. They're trying to forestall reporting of a recession. But the average person can already smell it coming.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM (BxH25)

237 >>> 182 50 Our 401(k)s are now 397(k)s....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt


367(k).
Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (SvtOj)

I'm looking at a 347k
Posted by: Inogame at April 28, 2022 01:39 PM (53oGX)

201k? Do I hear 201???

Posted by: Jen Pisshockey at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM (llON8)

238 Hopefully, seeing the Lefties at DU melting down over their own version of #2weeks will bring everyone some smiles.

Trump Org grand jury term expires this week - not extended CNN- A special grand jury seated to hear evidence in the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into the Trump Organization’s finances is set to expire at the end of the week and will not be extended, people familiar with the investigation tell CNN.

Here come the calls for more patience. Don't you know we are playing the loooooooooooooooong game? Some time by 2067 charges will drop. Just you wait and see!

One failure to prosecute does not mean all investigations will end that way. Vance/Bragg’s investigation will end without an indictment, but that has no bearing on the outcome of investigations by James, Willis and the DOJ.

Though just over a year ago when impeachment 2
failed the reassurance was always “yeah, but wait, the Manhattan investigation I’d going to destroy him”. So … ho-hum Re: “no bearing on other investigations”.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM (JCZqz)

239 Throws poop at Cheri
Posted by: a bunch of wild howler monkeys

My apologies oh howler ones!! LOL

Posted by: Cheri at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM (oiNtH)

240 Mark Levin should be given a ruck sack, air lifted to Mariupol, kicked out of the helicopter and told to fight or don't come home.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM (v31Ye)

241 >This is all before Title 42 is lifted with a flood of illegals to come. Even though a court has halted the lifting for now, I have zero faith that this will hold. The Marxist are desperate for a new voting block and will stop at nothing to make this happen.

Nah, they really just want to kill and replace Whites. Everything else is extra icing on the cake for them.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM (6exEJ)

242 I guess the 14 year old kid who murdered and raped his 10 year old cousin got the memo. He was obsessed with sex.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2022 01:45 PM (ptqGC)


Probably sexually assaulted himself.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM (wmDcS)

243
I can haz Polish milkmaids?


Because I am a giver. Link to youtube/probably NFSW. https://youtu.be/syMhJMmGEIc

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM (ESjRY)

244 You'll get the Polish economy of 1984

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM

I can haz Polish milkmaids?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

...

Make mail order brides great again

Posted by: TexasDan at April 28, 2022 01:49 PM (z9npv)

245 Have AP, NYT, Treasury, and the Federal Reserve changed the definition of "recession" yet? The sooner the better for Junta disinformation purposes three months from now.

Posted by: Gref at April 28, 2022 01:49 PM (AMIL/)

246 Refinitiv [an analysis/data firm] economists expected the report to show the economy had expanded by 1.1%.

--

The "economists" here on this blog could make far more accurate predictions than the vast panoply of so-called experts. This is a stone cold truth.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 28, 2022 01:49 PM (sVtYq)

247 The GOP is poised to take complete responsibility for this mess in November.

Posted by: fd at April 28, 2022 01:49 PM (vrz2I)

248 Hey guys, Jim Cramer gives me inside information that says this is the best economy he has ever seen, so everything is kool.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 28, 2022 01:50 PM (QYPq3)

249 brother, have you heard the news? choco ration's economy's going up!

Posted by: Parsons at April 28, 2022 01:50 PM (0CuV9)

250 247 The GOP is poised to take complete responsibility for this mess in November.
Posted by: fd at April 28, 2022 01:49 PM (vrz2I)

=========

The "party in power" seems to always be the party that controls the White House, in terms of public perception.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:50 PM (LvTSG)

251 >>> I bonds are paying 7.23% rn and that will jump over 9% on Sunday.

You're welcome.
Posted by: I Mean at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (weH4U)


They have 10K personal limits, right? I mean everyone would be shoveling everything they had in there if there wasn't a limit.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 01:50 PM (lMrg3)

252 We've been in a Depression since 2008 with a small Trump Reprieve.

Posted by: ...



Yep. And we haven't actually had an official budget since FY 2007. They've added a trillion dollars per year in "stimulus" spending on top of the "regular" spending since 2008, and run on continuing resolutions since then. And, of course, 2020 saw what, $3 trillion in "stimulus" spending?

If they ever told the truth about the years since 2008, the Capitol Building would be razed to the ground and maybe the White House as well.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 28, 2022 01:51 PM (Lp710)

253 the third path is to just do nothing effective at all, and let inflation accelerate into hyperinflation. This is always the easiest politically (at least in the short term) Then somebody else has to clean up the mess. Posted by: Tom Servo
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Hyperinflation ends up in an even deeper depression and creates trauma for decades. Apparently all government debt in the world went up 9 percent with Japan, China, and US leading the way. But even Germany's borrowing went up 14 percent. I gave up forecasting a couple of years ago because simply we have sailed beyond the path of knowledge. Economics pretty much had resolved national issues but the globalization effect introduces so many additional variables and data points that even the Davos crowd is flying blind in a snow storm on what the economy will do.

For an individual, I would focus on food, energy (especially a means to keep warm), medicines, water sources, and necessary durable tools and goods. Learn to fix things yourself and create things yourself.

Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 01:51 PM (Iq9dF)

254 @247

>>The GOP is poised to take complete responsibility for this mess in November.


Which would probably be a wise thing for the Donks to allow to happen and the GOP would love noting more than to be on the hook for this carnage.

They are an illegitimate political party after all.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 28, 2022 01:51 PM (lBjrg)

255 235 Went by the local food bank church yesterday, and the lines were longer than in the early days of Covid. If somebody has a couple or three tweens or teenagers at home, their grocery budget has to be a killer right now. They can and will eat like wolves.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 28, 2022 01:51 PM (lz5hY)

256 Nebulizer with saline solution works well too. I use that daily. Once I week, I add a drop of food grade hydrogen peroxide and Lugol's iodine. That part is controversial, but does seem to help clear out my lungs.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at April 28, 2022 01:52 PM (5HBd1)

257 Jim Cramer gives me inside information that says this is the best economy he has ever seen, so everything is kool.

Apparently some of those clot shot spike proteins are still lodged in his brain

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:52 PM (ESjRY)

258 Because I am a giver. Link to youtube/probably NFSW. https://youtu.be/syMhJMmGEIc

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM


A. I'm working from home today, so SFW; and

II. You, sir, are a great American.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 28, 2022 01:52 PM (RkC6l)

259 $50 federal minimum wage will fix this. People will have more money to buy stuff. We should also give them a $1200 stimulus check.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 28, 2022 01:52 PM (R8uWY)

260 228 America must be punished for electing Trump.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 28, 2022 01:46 PM (m0zqP)

We must be punished for working to achieve prosperity and independence and holding the unbearable conceit that this is our birthright. We must be punished for pursuing life, liberty and happiness. We must be punished for simply being Americans, for thinking that is a good thing, and for daring to teach our children the same.

Posted by: Ordinary American at April 28, 2022 01:52 PM (H8QX8)

261 The strict technical definition of a recession is "Two consecutive quarters of negative growth" (shrinkage, as noted economist Costanza would say).
===

It's been in a pool man! I know this because I was once a lifeguard. And I really liked it when the kids sat on my lap and rubbed my leg hairs man! Good times, man. Good times. Except for that Honey Comb guy. Bad dude man!

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 28, 2022 01:52 PM (BDZWU)

262 Hey guys, Jim Cramer gives me inside information that says this is the best economy he has ever seen, so everything is kool.
Posted by: In Reel Life

Did he bang on the sound board in front of him like a trained seal?

It's not real unless he does that.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 28, 2022 01:53 PM (nnLls)

263 They have 10K personal limits, right? I mean everyone would be shoveling everything they had in there if there wasn't a limit.

Posted by: banana Dream at April

Yes. Per adult per year.

Posted by: I Mean at April 28, 2022 01:53 PM (gR7OT)

264 My guess is that the fed is targeting around 5% inflation, because that will speed debt reduction by paying back with cheaper dollars. They can't raise interest rates enough to get inflation to 2%, the national debt would consume all taxes. 5% will kill the housing market, which will hurt the appliance market, and so on down the line.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 28, 2022 01:53 PM (5kI0z)

265 "...Mr. Biden was preceded in death by his beloved Brain."

Posted by: Joe's Obit at April 28, 2022 01:53 PM (LUJEW)

266 Can't wait for green shoots and turning corner stories in July to explain why negative Q2 is really good news.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 28, 2022 01:53 PM (XtLTM)

267 >>>$50 federal minimum wage will fix this. People will have more money to buy stuff. We should also give them a $1200 stimulus check.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 28, 2022 01:52 PM (R8uWY)

Brandon thinks that is a great idea, while at the same time lowering our costs.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 28, 2022 01:53 PM (QYPq3)

268 Have AP, NYT, Treasury, and the Federal Reserve changed the definition of "recession" yet? The sooner the better for Junta disinformation purposes three months from now.

Posted by: Gref at April 28, 2022 01:49 PM (AMIL/)
===

That happened under Preezy Shit Midas. When his economic ideas attained the old definition of recession, they changed the definition.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 28, 2022 01:53 PM (iDcra)

269 I remember working for defense contractors and they'd really push their employees to buy the worst gov bonds. Some sort of deal I'd guess. But the rates were horrible. I wanted to ask, "how about I just bring some of my pay into work, set it on fire, and dance while humming yankee doodle dandy, because that would actually work out better financially for me.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 01:53 PM (lMrg3)

270

Whatever these ancient fossil Democrats have been using to retain their youth, (stem cells from babies, HGH, botox, surgery, etc.), have run their course.

pelosi (and biden) are rapidly aging, now

pelosi looks and sounds like she's aged 20 years in the last 2 years:

https://youtu.be/glPa6aywQ_8

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at April 28, 2022 01:53 PM (/cyq8)

271 242 I guess the 14 year old kid who murdered and raped his 10 year old cousin got the memo. He was obsessed with sex.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2022 01:45 PM (ptqGC)

Probably sexually assaulted himself.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM (wmDcS)


His father was convicted a while back for possession of photos of young girls with their legs spread.

Posted by: Gref at April 28, 2022 01:54 PM (AMIL/)

272 Use this the rule of 72 to see what inflation does to your 401k If inflation is 8.5%, 72 divided by 8.5 is 8.4 years. 500,000 is worth 250k in that time

Posted by: Big Alfredo at April 28, 2022 01:54 PM (uCHj1)

273 "...bitter fruits of incompetence and socialism." - but I repeat myself.

Posted by: Mark at April 28, 2022 01:54 PM (/IrDf)

274 Yep. And we haven't actually had an official budget since FY 2007. They've added a trillion dollars per year in "stimulus" spending on top of the "regular" spending since 2008, and run on continuing resolutions since then. And, of course, 2020 saw what, $3 trillion in "stimulus" spending?

**

Yep. And the 2020/2021 "stimulus" spending will work exactly the same way.

Think about that for a minute. $3T/year, indefinitely via continuing resolutions. Baked into the cake.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 01:54 PM (fOPux)

275 >>>Did he bang on the sound board in front of him like a trained seal?

It's not real unless he does that.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 28, 2022 01:53 PM (nnLls)

You know, I can't say I actually watched because I'm not retarded.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 28, 2022 01:54 PM (QYPq3)

276 >>> Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at April 28, 2022 01:48 PM (JCZqz)

I'm the real deal.

Posted by: John Durham at April 28, 2022 01:54 PM (llON8)

277 The "economists" here on this blog could make far more accurate predictions than the vast panoply of so-called experts. This is a stone cold truth.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 28, 2022 01:49 PM (sVtYq)
++++
It happens routinely. From a month and change ago:

The internals of the Q4 GDP print were not great and a decline in Q1 was expected by anyone paying attention. If Q1 growth comes in negative - which I think they will jockey around to try to put up 0.5% positive or so and blame Putin - it is a massive failure because it also implies that, sans inventory, Q4 was probably also flat or negative. Repeating the feat in Q2 will not play well in November.

I was wrong. They couldn't jockey it up to barely-positive territory.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:54 PM (DU+/6)

278 "...bitter fruits of incompetence and socialism.

But enough about Mayor Pete

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 28, 2022 01:55 PM (II3Gr)

279
Not "science-based" education. "Pleasure based" "education."

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at April 28, 2022 01:55 PM (/cyq8)

280 pelosi (and biden) are rapidly aging, now

pelosi looks and sounds like she's aged 20 years in the last 2 years:


Posted by: Soothsayer



Living a lie will do that to you. Another consequence of a stolen election.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 28, 2022 01:55 PM (5kI0z)

281

My aini, they burn!

Posted by: The Man with Three Ani at April 28, 2022 01:55 PM (YSb9g)

282 His father was convicted a while back for possession of photos of young girls with their legs spread.
Posted by: Gref

Dear Lord!

Send the SMOD!

Posted by: Tonypete at April 28, 2022 01:56 PM (nnLls)

283 234 Kinda OT. Did anybody see footage of Putin attending Easter services? One of the most beautiful churches I've ever seen.

it's only a model

Posted by: online conspiracy theories at April 28, 2022 01:56 PM (0CuV9)

284 lol

@elonmusk - 16h

Next I'm buying Coca-Cola to put the cocaine back in.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Please let happen (it wont).

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 01:56 PM (6exEJ)

285 Zelensky could float us a loan.

Posted by: wth at April 28, 2022 01:57 PM (v0R5T)

286
3 Million barrels of oil per day from Russia off the market.
Alaska closed for new drilling. Fracking curtailed.
John Kerry remains focused; you will not have freedom of movement in 6 years because it is a climate catastrophe.

Posted by: Auspex at April 28, 2022 01:57 PM (Xo3T0)

287 >>The GOP is poised to take complete responsibility for this mess in November.


Which would probably be a wise thing for the Donks to allow to happen and the GOP would love noting more than to be on the hook for this carnage.


==

I'd say they could easily combat the sure bet they'll get blamed by the Democrats for the Democrat-induced mess we're in...but that would require them to actually fight. I see zero signs of that happening.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 28, 2022 01:57 PM (sVtYq)

288 107 And it's all on purpose. Punitive for our insolence, and intended to punish us for our support of Trump and getting uppity with our economy, jobs, household wealth, etc. a couple of years ago.

Remember, we were in the best economy in decades just three short years ago. They destroyed it intentionally.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 01:30 PM (fOPux)


THIS! This wasn't caused by events or stupidity. This was caused by malicious intent and blatant corruption. And the faster people start understanding this, the closer we'll be to perhaps digging our out of it.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 28, 2022 01:57 PM (Qhnrt)

289 His father was convicted a while back for possession of photos of young girls with their legs spread.

If you didn't get yours, make sure you check your spam folders!

Posted by: FBI at April 28, 2022 01:57 PM (LUJEW)

290 233 whig, re your O2 problem. Breathe steam.

I learned this from a vocal major [opera] at school.
Three times a day, pot of water on the stove, wait for steam, put a towel over your head to help capture the steam, 15 minutes a session, careful not to take in too hot.

While you are breathing deep breaths - vocalize.
Laaaaaaaaaaaaa from the diaphragm just like Pavarotti.

I'll be back with more.

Posted by: Braenyard
-----------------
I actually have a steamer used for nasal congestion so thanks for the suggestion. Already doing deep breathing exercises but the steam adds a twist to it.

Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (Iq9dF)

291 This just in: DHS secretary doesn't know if any of the 42 illegals apprehended at the border and on the DNF and Terrorist Watch lists have been released into the country.

https://tinyurl.com/dn2jcupy

Posted by: @ at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (ZsR3z)

292 >>> Not "science-based" education. "Pleasure based" "education."

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at April 28, 2022 01:55 PM (/cyq


... the only rule being "do what thou wilt".

Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (lMrg3)

293 Musk just tweeted out this meme:

https://tinyurl.com/Commies-Run-Left


It's the one where the commie/Lib runs leftward on a scale which makes it look like people in the center are actually on the right. I can't explain it. Look and ye shall see what I mean.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (Lp710)

294 Cunnilingus and psychiatry brought us to this.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (vuisn)

295 255 235 Went by the local food bank church yesterday, and the lines were longer than in the early days of Covid. If somebody has a couple or three tweens or teenagers at home, their grocery budget has to be a killer right now. They can and will eat like wolves.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 28, 2022 01:51 PM (lz5hY)

And if they have 5, they think about crying...but it's all good b/c "this too shall pass" (at least that's on my coffee mug at the moment)...

Posted by: Nova local at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (exHjb)

296 This just in: DHS secretary doesn't know if any of the 42 illegals apprehended at the border and on the DNF and Terrorist Watch lists have been released into the country.

https://tinyurl.com/dn2jcupy
Posted by: @ at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (ZsR3z)
++++
So they were released into the country.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (DU+/6)

297 Was it Sybarites? Only interested in fleeting pleasure?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 01:59 PM (dNqv+)

298 From a purely theoretical academic Keynesian viewpoint, yes, the way to suck out the extra dollars that they just injected in to the economy would be to raise taxes. The problem, of course, much like trying to raise rates in this environment, is that it will torpedo the economy further. And they can't have that 6 months before the election. So they will do nothing. And get clobbered anyway.

Posted by: Milquetoast mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at April 28, 2022 01:59 PM (psG+F)

299 His father was convicted a while back for possession of photos of young girls with their legs spread.
Posted by: Gref

Pics?

Posted by: Hunter Biden at April 28, 2022 01:59 PM (JCZqz)

300 https://tinyurl.com/Commies-Run-Left


He's not wrong.

In 2012 a moderate liberal:

Opposed wars of choice
Opposed "tranny rights"
Nominally supported freedom of speech

etc etc

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:59 PM (ESjRY)

301 you will not have freedom of movement in 6 years because it is a climate catastrophe.
Posted by: Auspex


you will not have freedom of movement in 6 years because there is no oil and electric can't handle it.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 02:00 PM (SvtOj)

302 It's the one where the commie/Lib runs leftward on a scale which makes it look like people in the center are actually on the right.

Posted by: Sharkman



Very interesting.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 28, 2022 02:00 PM (5kI0z)

303 I actually have a steamer used for nasal congestion so thanks for the suggestion. Already doing deep breathing exercises but the steam adds a twist to it.
Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (Iq9dF)

Since you said your lungs are clear, has some doc done a deep dive on your red blood cells?

Posted by: Nova local at April 28, 2022 02:00 PM (exHjb)

304 283 234 Kinda OT. Did anybody see footage of Putin attending Easter services? One of the most beautiful churches I've ever seen.

it's only a model
Posted by: online conspiracy theories at April 28, 2022 01:56 PM (0CuV9)
===

How can we expect people to go to church, if they can't fit inside the building?

Posted by: Derek Zoolander at April 28, 2022 02:01 PM (BDZWU)

305 So I watched/listened to Rekieta's stream last night where he watched the Baldwin police interview. Most important thing, one of the detectives interviewing him was carrying a dumptruck around.

Posted by: buzzion at April 28, 2022 02:01 PM (vMCab)

306 291 This just in: DHS secretary doesn't know if any of the 42 illegals apprehended at the border and on the DNF and Terrorist Watch lists have been released into the country.

https://tinyurl.com/dn2jcupy

Posted by: @ at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (ZsR3z)


No big deal. I don't have the time or resources to keep track of foreign terrorists in the US anyway.

Posted by: Christopher Wray at April 28, 2022 02:01 PM (AMIL/)

307
Kinda OT. Did anybody see footage of Putin attending Easter services? One of the most beautiful churches I've ever seen.

it's only a model
Posted by: online conspiracy theories at April 28, 2022 01:56 PM (0CuV9)

This is probably true. Russia doesn't have any culture. Just "eat the potato, drink the vodka, fuck the bear, attack Ukraine because Zelensky is way hotter than me," that's pretty much it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 28, 2022 02:01 PM (UGDPW)

308 298 From a purely theoretical academic Keynesian viewpoint, yes, the way to suck out the extra dollars that they just injected in to the economy would be to raise taxes. The problem, of course, much like trying to raise rates in this environment, is that it will torpedo the economy further. And they can't have that 6 months before the election. So they will do nothing. And get clobbered anyway.
Posted by: Milquetoast mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at April 28, 2022 01:59 PM (psG+F)

As I always understood it, merely the government appropriating your money to then immediately spend it on something else (payoffs for dems) will not do any good. Either the money has to be locked up so it does not move or is destroyed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 02:02 PM (dNqv+)

309 Conspiring to oppress Constitutional Rights, and depriving people of Constitutional Rights are both Federal crimes. Of course Garland's Communist Department of JustUs isn't going to prosecute anyone for violating those laws.

However State Courts and local prosecutors, like those in TX and FL, using local juries, can charge, try, convict, and yes, execute people for violating those Federal laws. You hear that Google, Facebook, Apple, Spotify,YouTube and Bloomberg? Go ahead, ask your lawyers about that, you aren't going to like what they say to you.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at April 28, 2022 02:02 PM (ZEHVO)

310 293 Musk just tweeted out this meme:

https://tinyurl.com/Commies-Run-Left


It's the one where the commie/Lib runs leftward on a scale which makes it look like people in the center are actually on the right. I can't explain it. Look and ye shall see what I mean.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (Lp710)

=========

It's nice to see someone pushing the idea that conservatives haven't changed views over the past few decades. The trope that conservatives have become more extreme (because Bill Kristol doesn't like us anymore) is so obviously false and easily accepted at the same time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 02:02 PM (LvTSG)

311 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 01:17 PM (LvTSG)

Agreed, however, it will hit us too.

Very late response I know.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:02 PM (LPcrG)

312 25% unemployment
Nearing 20% inflation
GDP has been 0% to negative since Fall of 2008.

This shit is why I'm not an asshole and have sympathy for gen Y and Zoomers.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:02 PM (6exEJ)

313 Most important thing, one of the detectives interviewing him was carrying a dumptruck around.
Posted by: buzzion


Huh? Izzat some Crossfit thing?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 28, 2022 02:02 PM (IEa8U)

314 The trolling continues...

https://tinyurl.com/mvnx56p7

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 28, 2022 02:03 PM (QYPq3)

315 Make sure you have a multi asset inflation response fund as part of your portfolio. If anything it will protect your gains.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 28, 2022 02:03 PM (BxH25)

316 High inflation, sluggish economy, reduced availability of goods and services. This is the wealthy elite's dream economy. It won't effect them nearly as much as it will those lower down the food chain. So the chasm between the haves and have-nots will widen. Which is the primary directive.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 28, 2022 01:22 PM (iFTx/)


We need to take a cue from medieval times and give these idiots a meaningless status symbol they can ponce- around in.

Like a special pith helmet ringed with bells in a special color like heliotrope that only people worth $500M can wear.

Then maybe they'd have their special status and would leave the rest of us alone.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 28, 2022 02:03 PM (5NkmN)

317 Oh I see I got beat.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 28, 2022 02:03 PM (QYPq3)

318 Very late response I know.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

That 40 time isn't what it used to be is it?

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:03 PM (6exEJ)

319 If you believe what Obama ran on in 2012 you are now officially a far rightwing white supremacist.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (ESjRY)

320 From a purely theoretical academic Keynesian viewpoint, yes, the way to suck out the extra dollars that they just injected in to the economy would be to raise taxes. The problem, of course, much like trying to raise rates in this environment, is that it will torpedo the economy further. And they can't have that 6 months before the election. So they will do nothing. And get clobbered anyway.
Posted by: Milquetoast mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at April 28, 2022 01:59 PM (psG+F)
++++
But even from the Keynesian standpoint (and this is also true among the monetarists, though they would advocate a different route), it still requires the government to run in surplus. So in order to curtail inflation, the net new tax rake-off would need to exceed the deficit and then that money must *not* be spent. So with a trillion dollar deficit, they'd need to raise taxe revenue by somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% (personal income tax was responsible for about $2 trillion in revenue in 2021) while also not increasing spending one penny before they remove even a single dollar from the money supply.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (DU+/6)

321
Not a REcession -- a MEcession!

-- SloJo Hominy Grits

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (pNxlR)

322 295 Nova, my ex ran into a coworkers wife at the grocery one day. They had five boys, separated in age by a year each, all teens. She had three grocery carts, told my ex it was like feeding time at the zoo at breakfast which the kids decided was any time of the day. Just throw a couple boxes of cereal and a gallon of milk at them and they would be content for a couple hours.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (lz5hY)

323 Horrible economic numbers. The S%P is up 2.35%.
Go figger

Posted by: MkY at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (mxNEh)

324 Thanks for the tip NST.

Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (Iq9dF)

325 You know, I was earlier going to mock Amber Heard's pledging millions to the ACLU, I hadn't realized Musk had banged her and pledged money to them as well. Then I realized. As many times as I've loathed the ACLU. They actually might become an evil ally you know enemy of my enemy. We might need them to actually lobby for actual civil liberties like free speech from the Politburo we have now.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (GwxCX)

326 >It's nice to see someone pushing the idea that conservatives haven't changed views over the past few decades. The trope that conservatives have become more extreme (because Bill Kristol doesn't like us anymore) is so obviously false and easily accepted at the same time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 02:02 PM (LvTSG)

I think the conservative side has shifted slightly left as well, tbh. Look at the way we think about law enforcement, foreign adventurism, corporations, etc.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (WzZ44)

327 The economy is in recession.

The economy has always been in recession.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at April 28, 2022 02:05 PM (MkuC5)

328 >>> 325 You know, I was earlier going to mock Amber Heard's pledging millions to the ACLU, I hadn't realized Musk had banged her and pledged money to them as well. Then I realized. As many times as I've loathed the ACLU. They actually might become an evil ally you know enemy of my enemy. We might need them to actually lobby for actual civil liberties like free speech from the Politburo we have now.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (GwxCX)

Haven't they already said they won't defend icky flyover people?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 28, 2022 02:05 PM (llON8)

329 CNBC tweets:

"U.S. GDP fell at a 1.4% pace to start the year as pandemic recovery takes a hit"

Somewhere in there is the subconscious suggestion it's Covid's fault.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 28, 2022 02:05 PM (sVtYq)

330 Most important thing, one of the detectives interviewing him was carrying a dumptruck around.
Posted by: buzzion

Huh? Izzat some Crossfit thing?
Posted by: weft cut-loop


It's for schlepping Baldwin's bullshit.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (SvtOj)

331 ace>And I can't wait for the claims that we just have to spend more and more trillions to fight the inflation downturn caused by the last pile of trillions we injected into the economy, which caused the inflation.

FIXT for accuracy.

Posted by: Golfman at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (hOMhY)

332 Lots of put activity. People are buying a lot on the short end.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (BxH25)

333 Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:03 PM (6exEJ)

Fast enough as I need to be in any situation.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (LPcrG)

334 We might need them to actually lobby for actual civil liberties like free speech from the Politburo we have now.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (GwxCX)

THE ACLU posted against Musk trying to restore speech on Twitter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (dNqv+)

335 So I watched/listened to Rekieta's stream last night where he watched the Baldwin police interview. Most important thing, one of the detectives interviewing him was carrying a dumptruck around.
Posted by: buzzion

Explain this to me like I am 5.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (6exEJ)

336 323 Horrible economic numbers. The S%P is up 2.35%.
Go figger
Posted by: MkY at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (mxNEh)

FED In A Box = Risk Off

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (MkuC5)

337 Lots of put activity. People are buying a lot on the short end.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (BxH25)

I know I am

Posted by: MkY at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (mxNEh)

338 326 I think the conservative side has shifted slightly left as well, tbh. Look at the way we think about law enforcement, foreign adventurism, corporations, etc.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (WzZ44)

========

The foreign adventurism thing in particular seems to have been a narrow blip in Republicanism in the 00s brought on by W. It's hard to think of examples from the previous couple of decades where Republicans were gungho about starting full on wars to "secure democracy".

Spreading democracy and blocking the spread of communism at the end of the Cold War never seems to have been as heedless and full throated as invading Iraq.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (LvTSG)

339 whig, continued.

Breathing steam and emoting/projecting softens and increases the elasticity of the alveoli.

What are the alveoli and how do they work?
_increases surface area in the lungs so gaseous exchange happens at a higher rate
_contains elastic tissue which recoils to expel air from the lungs during exhalation
_is lined with an extensive blood supply and thin squamous tissue so that the diffusion distance from the interior of the alveolus to the blood

Posted by: Braenyard at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (OMAvJ)

340 >>> Musk just tweeted out this meme:

https://tinyurl.com/Commies-Run-Left


It's the one where the commie/Lib runs leftward on a scale which makes it look like people in the center are actually on the right. I can't explain it. Look and ye shall see what I mean.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (Lp710)


The problem I have with it is the dates shown. 2008? Try 1700s and will talk. The Left has been hardened puritanical zealots for all of my life. Musk's view just matured. He's almost exactly my age. Slightly more successful than me. But he was naive.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 02:07 PM (lMrg3)

341 From a Daily Mail article about the murderer of the 10-year old girl in Wisconsin - note - you may not want to read the last paragraph below with details of the photos.

"The 14-year-old boy charged with the rape and murder of Wisconsin girl Lily Peters is the son of a convicted pedophile, DailyMail.com can reveal.

Adam Berger, 37, spent three years in jail after being caught with a stash of pornographic images of prepubescent girls on his phone.

Berger's son Carson Peters-Berger, 14, is now facing a possible life sentence after being charged with three counts over Lily's death: first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree sexual assault and first-degree sexual assault of a child.

According to charging documents for Adam Berger, 10 pornographic photos showing very young girls in spread-legged positions were found on his phone. Some of them had been doctored to include comments such as 'first in ur little girls a**hole and then in ur mouth mom.' "

Posted by: Gref at April 28, 2022 02:07 PM (AMIL/)

342 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (WzZ44)

I think it is a shift to populism. And yes left and right can’t intersect there.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:07 PM (LPcrG)

343 232 Some of the established GOPe types, like Levin, are locked into the news bubble on the Ukraine/Russia war.

So Russia is mass killing civilians! And the quietly...but actually not...and on and on.

Posted by: a bunch of wild howler monkeys at April 28, 2022 01:47 PM (ESjRY)

I do like Levin, but I've gotten tired of his schtick of having people like McCarthy on without raking them over the coals, or really supporting colleagues like Jennifer Griffin on her UKR coverage, while completely ignoring the stenographic work she did keeping that Trump 'suckers' comment alive. He's too smart to forget about it, so he just pumps up her current 'work' uncritically. I know he's employed by FOX, but does he really need to say that he 'really, really likes Bret Baier. I really, really, really like Jen Griffin'? Better not to say anything. Nobody was asking him - not even Mr Producer?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 28, 2022 02:07 PM (TEjGR)

344 335 So I watched/listened to Rekieta's stream last night where he watched the Baldwin police interview. Most important thing, one of the detectives interviewing him was carrying a dumptruck around.
Posted by: buzzion

Explain this to me like I am 5.
Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (6exEJ)



I think your name explains it.

Posted by: buzzion at April 28, 2022 02:08 PM (vMCab)

345
https://tinyurl.com/mvnx56p7
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 28, 2022 02:03 PM

That's closer to truth than some beleive. Musk is being forced to the right by the same people that love grooming. Welcome to reality.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 28, 2022 02:08 PM (GwxCX)

346 Explain this to me like I am 5.
Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (6exEJ)

I listened, but as I understand it (both detectives were female) and one had a decent ass and made sure the camera in the room got a lot of good views.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 02:08 PM (dNqv+)

347 I have a theory part of the reason that Europe was so peaceful post WWII is that there were 2 girls for every guy...well...maybe 1.2 but the point stands.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 01:34 PM (ESjRY)
----------

I'm pretty sure American soldiers stationed in Europe after WWII were happy, too.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 28, 2022 01:35 PM (5pTK/)

The latter is the main reason - in previous centuries being ruined by the last war only had a minor effect on new wars coming. Even the "Concert of Europe" after Napoleon in 1815 had the big revolution of 1848 to stamp out, that led to a lot of German immigration here, and also wars in Greece, Italy, Spain, and then the wars of German Unification....

Posted by: Oldcat at April 28, 2022 02:08 PM (eoQWY)

348 Can. Not can’t.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:08 PM (LPcrG)

349 I like the Musk Tweet where he said he would buy McDonalds and fix all the ice cream machines.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 28, 2022 02:08 PM (BxH25)

350 I did that
J.Biden

Posted by: Skip's phone at April 28, 2022 02:09 PM (8h9oV)

351 I think the best way to take care of our recession, inflation, and GDP is to print an additional $33 billion, and send it to the most corrupt country outside of Africa.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 28, 2022 02:09 PM (5kI0z)

352 Since you said your lungs are clear, has some doc done a deep dive on your red blood cells?

Posted by: Nova local
-------------------
Yes, something wonky is going on regarding the amount of iron actually available to blood cells and hemoglobin values. Have more tests coming with a blood specialist along with the infectious disease specialist.

Plus I have a biopsy next week on some thyroid nodules so there could be some additional factors at play along with long coof. I had ct scans with contrast of my lungs early this month to ensure no damage from coof or pneumonia. They were clear but something is causing the o2 saturation to drop from rest.

Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 02:09 PM (Iq9dF)

353 Its official. Biden sucks donkey ballz.

Posted by: Puddinghead at April 28, 2022 02:09 PM (OTXUv)

354 Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 28, 2022 02:07 PM (TEjGR)

He’s a smart dude for sure but fuck him for helping the bullshit reign.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:09 PM (LPcrG)

355 According to charging documents for Adam Berger, 10 pornographic photos showing very young girls in spread-legged positions were found on his phone. Some of them had been doctored to include comments such as 'first in ur little girls a**hole and then in ur mouth mom.' "
Posted by: Gref


He seems..... nice.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 02:09 PM (SvtOj)

356 You may laugh, but the entirety of those in charge have one flowchart for every problem:

Have you spent more money on it?
Y --> spend more money
N --> spend more money

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 28, 2022 02:10 PM (ZSvpp)

357 Joe and Aetius - yeah that's the other side of it. They'd have to tax and not spend. Which is why Keynesian economics doesn't actually work in the real world. It's like communism to the true believers though - "it works, we're just not doing it right!!!" all the way over the cliff.

Posted by: Milquetoast mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at April 28, 2022 02:10 PM (psG+F)

358 The foreign adventurism thing in particular seems to have been a narrow blip in Republicanism in the 00s brought on by W

Well...I expected the war was going to be punitive

Kill the Taliban, arm the Northern Alliance, and give them free reign to do what they want to the Taliban with a warning of "don't make us have to come back"...and maybe 1-2 years in country.

Instead we got...two decades of doing f*ck all.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 02:10 PM (ESjRY)

359 Don't know if those little steamers produce enough steam to fill your lungs as well.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 28, 2022 02:10 PM (OMAvJ)

360 Fast enough as I need to be in any situation.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

That's all you need.
What do you think about UGA's track prodigy Mathew Bolling. He is a junior and has become only the second ever to record a sub 10 100 meters, sub 20 200 meters, and a long jump over 8 meters.
The other guy is Carl Lewis.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:10 PM (6exEJ)

361 And we’ve got apostrophes for mobile phones now? Hell yes.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:10 PM (LPcrG)

362 I think the best way to take care of our recession, inflation, and GDP is to print an additional $33 billion, and send it to the most corrupt country outside of Africa.
Posted by: Thomas Paine


The US?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (SvtOj)

363 Musk just tweeted a meme illustrating himself as being politically right of center, but only because the left shifted "center" so far to the left of his own position whic has not changed.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (z9npv)

364 >>>I like the Musk Tweet where he said he would buy McDonalds and fix all the ice cream machines.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 28, 2022 02:08 PM (BxH25)

What he said was that he couldn't do miracles. That was funny.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (QYPq3)

365 You know, I was earlier going to mock Amber Heard's pledging millions to the ACLU, I hadn't realized Musk had banged her and pledged money to them as well. Then I realized. As many times as I've loathed the ACLU. They actually might become an evil ally you know enemy of my enemy. We might need them to actually lobby for actual civil liberties like free speech from the Politburo we have now.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 28, 2022 02:04 PM (GwxCX)

Haven't they already said they won't defend icky flyover people?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 28, 2022 02:05 PM (llON

Like most institutions over 20 years old the ACLU has forgotten its mission and is actively against what it claimed to be trying to support -- if it ever did really support civil liberties.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (eoQWY)

366 358 Well...I expected the war was going to be punitive

Kill the Taliban, arm the Northern Alliance, and give them free reign to do what they want to the Taliban with a warning of "don't make us have to come back"...and maybe 1-2 years in country.

Instead we got...two decades of doing f*ck all.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 02:10 PM (ESjRY)

========

Yeah. The nation got caught up in some sense of vengeance, and then suddenly we're talking about establishing democracy in Iraq. Whether justified or not, it doesn't seem like the sort of course of action Reagan would have followed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (LvTSG)

367 And we’ve got apostrophes for mobile phones now? Hell yes.
Posted by: thathalfrican

Way more than that.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (SvtOj)

368 339 whig, continued.

Breathing steam and emoting/projecting softens and increases the elasticity of the alveoli.

What are the alveoli and how do they work?
_increases surface area in the lungs so gaseous exchange happens at a higher rate
_contains elastic tissue which recoils to expel air from the lungs during exhalation
_is lined with an extensive blood supply and thin squamous tissue so that the diffusion distance from the interior of the alveolus to the blood

Posted by: Braenyard
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Makes sense Braenyard science wise.

Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (Iq9dF)

369 Labor Shortage and recession go together like peanut butter and mayonnaise. Doesn't make sense . The only way it can happen is the government paying people not to work.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (jbvDC)

370 So I watched/listened to Rekieta's stream last night where he watched the Baldwin police interview. Most important thing, one of the detectives interviewing him was carrying a dumptruck around.
Posted by: buzzion

Put on your Ice T Law and Order accent and mannerisms.
Now walk around with said drumstick. Twirling it, looking at Baldwin. So what you're tellin me, you didn't ask if the gun was loaded or unloaded, huh, so your also tellin me that you didn't point it like this (takes drumstick and points at Baldwin) at her and now your tellin me you didn't pull the trigger? Huh.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (GwxCX)

371 He seems..... nice.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 02:09 PM (SvtOj)

He's be nicer hanging from a gibbet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (dNqv+)

372 Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:10 PM (6exEJ)

That elite company and in general I love to see excellence. Hope he has a long career.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:12 PM (LPcrG)

373 abor Shortage and recession go together like peanut butter and mayonnaise. Doesn't make sense . The only way it can happen is the government paying people not to work.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM

Carrots and chili.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 28, 2022 02:12 PM (GwxCX)

374 The trolling continues...

https://tinyurl.com/mvnx56p7

Posted by: In Reel Life



That's the one I posted at 293.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 28, 2022 02:12 PM (Lp710)

375 Explain this to me like I am 5.
Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:06 PM (6exEJ)

I listened, but as I understand it (both detectives were female) and one had a decent ass and made sure the camera in the room got a lot of good views.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

That makes sense.
I pictured some dude walking around with a Tonka or John Deer toy dumptruck.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:12 PM (6exEJ)

376 Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (SvtOj)

Aw shit. What else did we get? And when did this change happen?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:12 PM (LPcrG)

377 the ACLU has forgotten its mission and is actively against what it claimed to be trying to support -- if it ever did really support civil liberties.

Yeah, I don't think they truly ever supported civil liberties, but found it a useful tool to promote their real goals until it was time to abandon the charade.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 28, 2022 02:13 PM (KZzsI)

378 369 Labor Shortage and recession go together like peanut butter and mayonnaise. Doesn't make sense . The only way it can happen is the government paying people not to work.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (jbvDC)

*fake surprise* And would you look at that!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 02:13 PM (dNqv+)

379 --- The other tool is demand suppression which is by killing employment and demand for goods consequently. This is probably the path they will take.
Posted by: whig
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inverse holodomor

Posted by: Braenyard at April 28, 2022 02:13 PM (OMAvJ)

380 Labor Shortage and recession go together like peanut butter and mayonnaise. Doesn't make sense . The only way it can happen is the government paying people not to work.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter



Or the black market. Plenty of people working off of the clock now.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 28, 2022 02:13 PM (5kI0z)

381 359 Don't know if those little steamers produce enough steam to fill your lungs as well.

Posted by: Braenyard
--------------------------
Mine was from when I had bacterial pneumonia years and years ago. I was severely ill from it early this century and had to use it to recover It puts out a fair amount of steam.

Posted by: whig at April 28, 2022 02:13 PM (Iq9dF)

382 317 Oh I see I got beat.

Posted by: In Reel Life



*FistBump*

Great minds think alike.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 28, 2022 02:14 PM (Lp710)

383 The only way it can happen is the government paying people not to work.

Right. Its not actually a labor shortage, its people who just don't want to bother to work because they got used to being paid not to. Hardly an unexpected result.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 28, 2022 02:14 PM (KZzsI)

384 Labor Shortage and recession go together like peanut butter and mayonnaise. Doesn't make sense

The government pays people money to not work (the FSA) AND pays money to other people to make sure other people can't work (the permanent bureaucracy)

At this point I would expect we'd gain 10 jobs for every government job eliminated.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 02:14 PM (ESjRY)

385 --- I don't think they truly ever supported civil liberties, but found it a useful tool to promote their real goals until it was time to abandon the charade.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 28, 2022 02:13 PM (KZzsI)
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Correct, not from day one.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 28, 2022 02:14 PM (OMAvJ)

386 The problem I have with it is the dates shown. 2008? Try 1700s and will talk. The Left has been hardened puritanical zealots for all of my life. Musk's view just matured. He's almost exactly my age. Slightly more successful than me. But he was naive.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 02:07 PM (lMrg3)

It explains thing from his POV, though. Even on the left, no one in 2008 was saying that you had to be a biologist to say what a woman is. Dem's didn't really start to go totally pro-censorship until about 2015. Now a lot of us saw it coming, but for those who didn't that's when it became apparent.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 28, 2022 02:14 PM (trdmm)

387 That makes sense.
I pictured some dude walking around with a Tonka or John Deer toy dumptruck.
Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:12 PM (6exEJ)

Eh, I flipped back and forth. One lady was a bit... hefty, but the other had... that straight center parted long hair and always kept her back to the camera.

Baldwin looked like 10 pounds of mashed potatoes in a 5 lb burlap sack. With a beard.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 02:15 PM (dNqv+)

388 386 It explains thing from his POV, though. Even on the left, no one in 2008 was saying that you had to be a biologist to say what a woman is. Dem's didn't really start to go totally pro-censorship until about 2015. Now a lot of us saw it coming, but for those who didn't that's when it became apparent.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 28, 2022 02:14 PM (trdmm)

==========

I remember when Democrats said that Mitt Romney was leading a war on women.

And they're not even biologists.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 02:15 PM (LvTSG)

389 If you get a humidifier make sure to practice diligence cleaning them and if required use distilled water or whatever they require. If they get nasty, you're breathing nasty.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 02:16 PM (lMrg3)

390 We had 26 straight quarters of positive GDP growth after 9/11 .

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 28, 2022 02:16 PM (jbvDC)

391 Aw shit. What else did we get? And when did this change happen?
Posted by: thathalfrican

When we went Minx 0.8

What you want? We got 💩 😳 🍾. Pretty much every emoji from our cell phone keyboard.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 28, 2022 02:16 PM (SvtOj)

392 Who keeps 💩 in my depends?!?

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 28, 2022 02:16 PM (ESjRY)

393 That elite company and in general I love to see excellence. Hope he has a long career.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

Yeah, that White Boy can fly. He had a sub 100 in high school.
The sub 20 200 he just ran wss his best race ever tho. Finally ran a relaxed race and and glided to the finish line.
He will be in the Olympics in 2024.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:17 PM (6exEJ)

394 366 358 Well...I expected the war was going to be punitive
Kill the Taliban, arm the Northern Alliance, and give them free reign to do what they want to the Taliban with a warning of "don't make us have to come back"...and maybe 1-2 years in country.
Instead we got...two decades of doing f*ck all.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 02:10 PM (ESjRY)

========
Yeah. The nation got caught up in some sense of vengeance, and then suddenly we're talking about establishing democracy in Iraq. Whether justified or not, it doesn't seem like the sort of course of action Reagan would have followed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking great in a trenchcoat and fedora with JP Melville at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (LvTSG)


Bush failing to open-up the "football" on the evening of 9/11 and enter about 25 targets for immediate nuke strikes, started the sh!tball rolling down from the top of the manure pile and get bigger and bigger.

Posted by: Gref at April 28, 2022 02:17 PM (AMIL/)

395 That makes sense.
I pictured some dude walking around with a Tonka or John Deer toy dumptruck.
Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:12 PM (6exEJ)

thanks - that's what I was wondering, too.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 28, 2022 02:17 PM (trdmm)

396 293 Musk just tweeted out this meme:

https://tinyurl.com/Commies-Run-Left


It's the one where the commie/Lib runs leftward on a scale which makes it look like people in the center are actually on the right. I can't explain it. Look and ye shall see what I mean.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 28, 2022 01:58 PM (Lp710)

LOL. One of the comments was even more funny.

"Musk could have bought congress much cheaper than what he paid for Twitter".

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 28, 2022 02:17 PM (Qhnrt)

397 Time for the WH Handlers to rattle more sabers and get us even more distracted from our cratering society.
If we end up in a nuclear exchange with Ivan I guess that's just collateral damage.

Posted by: Zek at April 28, 2022 02:17 PM (OzNIz)

398
I don't think they truly ever supported civil liberties, but found it a useful tool to promote their real goals until it was time to abandon the charade.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 28, 2022 02:13 PM (KZzsI)

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Yeah, the Frankfurt School laid this out, explicitly, with no innuendo or room for interpretation, in the '60s. As in "our goal is to exploit civil liberties in the Western democracies for political advantage, and once we achieve the power, we'll put paid to them once and for all."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 28, 2022 02:18 PM (UGDPW)

399 How many billion did we print and send to Ukraine today? How many illegals will flood across the border today to eat our our substance? Just the tip, right? Just the tip.

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2022 02:18 PM (Vr12I)

400 >Musk's view just matured. He's almost exactly my age. Slightly more successful than me. But he was naive.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 02:07 PM (lMrg3)

I'm convinced it's that sperg naivety. I think he's one of the few big names in the "climate change" arena who really believes it's a thing. On a lot of topics where he used to align with the left, he's gonna learn.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 02:18 PM (WzZ44)

401 We have emojis?😳

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:18 PM (6exEJ)

402
I, for one, eagerly await Minx 1.0 delta.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 28, 2022 02:18 PM (pNxlR)

403 There is a study on people who use steam rooms vs those who don't, in relationship to mortality by pneumonia and other lung related disease.

Persons who used steam rooms three days a week suffered a significantly lower mortality rate of lung related aliments than those who didn't use steam rooms.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (OMAvJ)

404 Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:17 PM (6exEJ)

He’s 6’0 too? Depending on how long his strides are and with extreme training he could maybe touch Bolt.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (LPcrG)

405 We have emojis?😳
Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:18 PM (6exEJ)
++++
Yeah, Pixy added some Unicode tolerance so people posting from devices with smart punctuation quit having to deal with the red error stack.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (DU+/6)

406 Labor Shortage and recession go together like peanut butter and mayonnaise. Doesn't make sense . The only way it can happen is the government paying people not to work.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (jbvDC)

*fake surprise* And would you look at that!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 28, 2022 02:13 PM (dNqv+)

Or if the population is too mis-educated to be able to perform technical jobs and too mal-educated to be willing to consider the requirements of business by the government schools

*fake surprise* And would you look at that!

Posted by: Oldcat at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (eoQWY)

407 The trope that conservatives have become more extreme (because Bill Kristol doesn't like us anymore) is so obviously false and easily accepted at the same time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison




That's what pisses me off most about the "The Parties Switched!!!" Big Lie.

Oh, no, we Republicans have been consistent on a major issues since 1854. You fucking slavers are the ones who've tried to switch your spots.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (Lp710)

408 We have emojis?😳
Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse


*

They'll constantly come up when you quote someone and use their entire hash. I think an 8 followed by a ) will give a face wearing sunglasses. It's very odd to see in a quote.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (fOPux)

409 "If we end up in a nuclear exchange with Ivan I guess that's just collateral damage."

I must confess if they destroyed DC I would have conflicted feelings...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (jTmQV)

410 >I think it is a shift to populism. And yes left and right can’t intersect there.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:07 PM (LPcrG)

It's true that a simple left/right axis is woefully bad for making a political taxonomy.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (WzZ44)

411 ✈ 🚀 💞 🏋️‍♀️ 💪 🐙 🎉

Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (lMrg3)

412 Emojis? :-D

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:20 PM (LPcrG)

413 The parties switched whenever the Democrats did horrible things.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 02:20 PM (fOPux)

414 Well fuck. I did it wrong.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 28, 2022 02:20 PM (LPcrG)

415 Nevermind pointing out problems. Everyone will see them sooner or later. Hit 'em in the pocketbook. That soaks in better than anything else.

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2022 02:20 PM (Vr12I)

416 Name field test

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Billions for Ukraine's war, not a penny for peace talks at April 28, 2022 02:20 PM (fOPux)

417 Oh my ... this is going to get out of ✋ ... this is going to get out of ✋ and we'll be lucky to survive it.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 02:21 PM (lMrg3)

418 409 "If we end up in a nuclear exchange with Ivan I guess that's just collateral damage."

I must confess if they destroyed DC I would have conflicted feelings...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (jTmQV)

I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed...

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 28, 2022 02:21 PM (trdmm)

419 At least we have emojis.

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2022 02:21 PM (Vr12I)

420 Only one notable Dixiecrat switched parties - Strom Thurmond...and specifically over the issue of confronting the Soviets.

In the early 00s the left was calling Klan leader Byrd "the conscious of the senate"

Hell Biden is a Dixiecrat (how he did that from DE is another story).

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 02:21 PM (ESjRY)

421 👍

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2022 02:21 PM (Vr12I)

422 413 The parties switched whenever the Democrats did horrible things.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters at April 28, 2022 02:20 PM (fOPux)

So every day and twice on Rapey Tuesday?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 28, 2022 02:22 PM (b2nrj)

423 . As in "our goal is to exploit civil liberties in the Western democracies for political advantage, and once we achieve the power, we'll put paid to them once and for all."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 28, 2022 02:18 PM (UGDPW)

Which comes straight from Marx and Lenin.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 28, 2022 02:23 PM (trdmm)

424 nood

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 28, 2022 02:23 PM (IEa8U)

425 Hell Biden is a Dixiecrat (how he did that from DE is another story).

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 02:21 PM (ESjRY)

Hell, Delaware was still segregated when he beat that black boy with a chain for swimming in a public pool.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 28, 2022 02:23 PM (UGDPW)

426 >>> 409 "If we end up in a nuclear exchange with Ivan I guess that's just collateral damage."

I must confess if they destroyed DC I would have conflicted feelings...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 28, 2022 02:19 PM (jTmQV)

I would be upset about Morons in the blast radius.

Other things, not so much.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 28, 2022 02:23 PM (llON8)

427 The 1960 Democratic Party is really an entertaining subject. 1964 is also quite entertaining. A coalition of two parts each of which has as its unstated goal the defeat of the other member of the coalition. The Kennedys did a helluva job holding it together, mostly through appointing rabidly racist judges.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at April 28, 2022 02:23 PM (vN+oL)

428 As Adam Smith said, there's a lot of ruin in a nation.

GDP, for going on 14 years now, has included $1 trillion annually in borrowed government spending.

There is no sound economic theory that justifies including government spending in the measure of the economy's health.

We are credit-card millionaires....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 28, 2022 02:23 PM (ZSvpp)

429 Oh my ... this is going to get out of ✋ ... this is going to get out of ✋ and we'll be lucky to survive it.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 28, 2022 02:21 PM (lMrg3)


I had no idea💡we could do emojis.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 28, 2022 02:24 PM (DRSnL)

430 Lol! The FDA is banning menthol cigs and flavored cigars.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 28, 2022 02:24 PM (Y5qcH)

431 >>> 423 . As in "our goal is to exploit civil liberties in the Western democracies for political advantage, and once we achieve the power, we'll put paid to them once and for all."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 28, 2022 02:18 PM (UGDPW)

Which comes straight from Marx and Lenin.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 28, 2022 02:23 PM (trdmm)

They would be proud to see their followers have now officially #canceled the First Amendment in the US.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 28, 2022 02:24 PM (llON8)

432 😁

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 28, 2022 02:24 PM (Qhnrt)

433 Like most institutions over 20 years old the ACLU has forgotten its mission and is actively against what it claimed to be trying to support -- if it ever did really support civil liberties.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (eoQWY)



The ACLU was founded to protect the civil rights ... of communists.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 28, 2022 02:24 PM (yQpMk)

434 They'll constantly come up when you quote someone and use their entire hash. I think an 8 followed by a ) will give a face wearing sunglasses. It's very odd to see in a quote.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters

I know. But now we literally have emojis instead of typing a code.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:24 PM (6exEJ)

435 Bill Clinton's mentor Fullbright was an avowed segregationist and Al Gore Sr filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 28, 2022 02:26 PM (jbvDC)

436 Like most institutions over 20 years old the ACLU has forgotten its mission and is actively against what it claimed to be trying to support -- if it ever did really support civil liberties.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 28, 2022 02:11 PM (eoQWY)


The ACLU was founded to protect the civil rights ... of communists.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 28, 2022 02:24 PM (yQpMk)

well at least that's somebody they cared about...

Posted by: Oldcat at April 28, 2022 02:26 PM (eoQWY)

437 434 They'll constantly come up when you quote someone and use their entire hash. I think an 8 followed by a ) will give a face wearing sunglasses. It's very odd to see in a quote.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - F*ck Helping Ukrainian Nazi Supporters

I know. But now we literally have emojis instead of typing a code.
Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:24 PM (6exEJ)

😎

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 28, 2022 02:27 PM (Qhnrt)

438 There are very few ways to control inflation but one of them, the most impactful, is really easy to do. Stop deficit spending. That's all.

There would still be inflationary issues with the economy because you can't just magically make them disappear, it takes time but they would largely work themselves out if the money supply was stable.

There are some other ways to reduce the money supply but none of those will work if we still have deficits but we don't need to reduce the money supply so much as just stop making it bigger.

Posted by: Wodun at April 28, 2022 02:27 PM (GY61w)

439 > As Adam Smith said, there's a lot of ruin in a nation.

He is a smart dude. His Myth of the 20th Century podcast is the best podcast out there. Highly recommend since everything we have been taught and told is a lie.

Posted by: Insane Pawg Posse at April 28, 2022 02:27 PM (6exEJ)

440 There are some other ways to reduce the money supply but none of those will work if we still have deficits but we don't need to reduce the money supply so much as just stop making it bigger.
Posted by: Wodun at April 28, 2022 02:27 PM (GY61w)

Trump showed that even just stopping actively making things worse every day led to an explosion of growth.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 28, 2022 02:30 PM (eoQWY)

441 And still, the radio propaganda continues to blather about covid and a new vax approved for kids under 5 and how relived parents are to have it at last.


Surreal. These idiots (the newsreaders and parents) would be complaining about how hard it is to get a waiter as the Titanic was going down.

Posted by: Ripley at April 28, 2022 02:33 PM (MxEKc)

442 We have emojis
___________

Emojis are for idiots. This is known.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 28, 2022 02:34 PM (YqDXo)

443 Surreal. These idiots (the newsreaders and parents) would be complaining about how hard it is to get a waiter as the Titanic was going down.
Posted by: Ripley at April 28, 2022 02:33 PM (MxEKc)'
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And asking the band if they know "Melancholy Baby."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 28, 2022 02:35 PM (YqDXo)

444 Stagflation baby! WOOOOOOOO!

I mean - how stupid do you have to be to have high inflation and negative GDP? Biden stupid, that's how stupid!

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at April 28, 2022 02:41 PM (+DS2f)

445 So when does the NYTs report that Biden's recession will hit minorities and womynz hardest?

Posted by: Puddinghead at April 28, 2022 02:41 PM (OTXUv)

446 Trump showed that even just stopping actively making things worse every day led to an explosion of growth.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 28, 2022 02:30 PM (eoQWY)

^^^^^^this. Times 1,000.

You just have to stop being stupid to fix the problems that ail us.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at April 28, 2022 02:43 PM (+DS2f)

447 At R +8, the final results of the 1994 house election was R 230, D 204.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 28, 2022 02:55 PM (ESjRY)

448 Headline from July: US narrowly avoids recession as GDP grew 8% at11:55 am on 29Jun2022...

Posted by: brainy435 at April 28, 2022 02:59 PM (H0ZcU)

449 We're fucked

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 28, 2022 03:34 PM (eMEkg)

450 Trump showed that even just stopping actively making things worse every day led to an explosion of growth.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 28, 2022 02:30 PM (eoQWY)


Konrad Adenauer as well.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 28, 2022 03:56 PM (xhaym)

451 In totally absolutely unrelated news, Fauci walks back his "we are out of the pandemic" statement.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at April 28, 2022 06:13 PM (asG9z)

452 Yeah Joe, you did this too.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at April 28, 2022 06:14 PM (asG9z)

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