The Deep State's Embed at Fox News Jen Griffin Continues to "Report" By Reading Statements Delivered to Her by Her Pentagon "Sources"

They're not her sources, they're her handlers.

She claims the biolabs that Victoria Nuland admitted to yesterday are just "Soviet era" labs, which the US has been trying to "clean out," her handlers claim, since the fall of the Soviet Union.

In 1991.

So she's claiming that the US has been trying, but failing, to "clean out" these laboratories for over 30 years. And they're still filled with biological weapons -- so filled with biological weapons that Victoria Nuland explicitly set down the pre-spin that if any of these weapons are released, Russia Did It.

It's been thirty fucking years of the US trying to "clean these Soviet era labs out" and they're still stocked to the top shelves with bioweapons?

Now, you have to be careful in dealing with bioweapons, but they're not like spent nuclear material -- you can destroy them. Easily. It just takes a lot of UV light.

Or, even simpler: A pit and a lot of kerosene.

Still simpler: bleach.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Right. This is very literally Not Rocket Science. Yes, you have to be careful in handling the material, but it's not exactly a state secret regarding the destruction of the stocks.

These are nonsenselies but Jennifer Griffin dutifully reads from her script. Glowing with pride as she proudly serves her Pentagon Masters.

Even more appallingly, she then claims that anyone who questions this script is repeating Russian Disinformation aimed at these labs.

“We do have clarity. I have a fact sheet. That’s what I was just reading from here at the Pentagon.” Ok then. pic.twitter.com/Yqb1HBxRPV
— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) March 10, 2022

Here's a version of The Cover Story I could buy:

After the fall of the Soviet Union, the US wanted to create make-work projects for former Soviet missile and nuclear scientists so that they did not sell their expertise to Iran and North Korea making missiles and nuclear bombs.

So we spent a lot of money on stuff like the International Space Station and the heavy lift rockets (built in Russia) to get it into space.

We overspent on low-priority projects because the real priority was keeping these guys paid in jobs that were not a threat to us.

So I could believe that, since the fall of the Soviet Union, the US has paid these Ukranian former-Soviet bioweapons scientists to run non-weapons research for us.

Maybe, maybe that's what it is.

So why wouldn't they say so?

Well, possibly because they've been among the labs contracted to do the dangerous gain-of-function virus research that the fucking lunatic supervillain Anthony Fauci is so keen on.

And of course the government would not admit that -- all they do now is lie to a populace who they are convinced will do nothing about these constant lies.

Alternately: Maybe Ukraine feels exposed, having been pressured to giving up its nukes, and has maintained the bioweapon labs to have, at least, a biological deterrent.

But they don't want to admit our Ukranian Heroes would ever do something like that.

So they just lie. And lie some more. And lie and lie and lie and lie and lie and then when people say "These are all obviously lies, and not even crafty ones," you call them Russian Disinformation Merchants.

And then they send out Jennifer Griffin to read senseless bullshit from a "fact sheet" and Fox News calls it "reporting."

I bet the leftwing news industry gives her awards for her "service."

Bet me if you think I'm wrong.

Update: Huh.

I guess Jen Griffin's "fact sheet" was missing a few facts.

Thanks to flounder.

How many absurd, insulting lies from the Government-Media Regime am I expected to pretend to believe in order to be considered a Patriot who is not a Russian Agent?

Posted by: Ace at 04:31 PM

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1 sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 10, 2022 04:31 PM (LvTSG)

2 Yeah, we now know one of the reasons Putin invaded.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2022 04:32 PM (5kI0z)

3 Fauci had COVID created in China.

I can't wait to find out what he made for us in Ukraine!

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:32 PM (ESjRY)

4 Ooooo. ace is CAPITAL ACE TODAY!

look at you, all impotent and stuff.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 10, 2022 04:33 PM (NYMg5)

5 >>>2 Yeah, we now know one of the reasons Putin invaded.
Posted by: Thomas Paine a

please. why the insistence on portraying him as the Crusading Superhero?

Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:33 PM (0G13K)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 10, 2022 04:34 PM (Zz0t1)

7 King Harv looks a little upset.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:34 PM (SjcEJ)

8 5 >>>2 Yeah, we now know one of the reasons Putin invaded.
Posted by: Thomas Paine a

please. why the insistence on portraying him as the Crusading Superhero?
Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:33 PM (0G13K)

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I have no idea to his "real" motives, but taking out biolabs near his border isn't necessarily a superhero thing. There's self-interest at play.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 10, 2022 04:34 PM (LvTSG)

9 brillo pad.

Posted by: johnd01 at March 10, 2022 04:34 PM (ukNFU)

10 5 >>>2 Yeah, we now know one of the reasons Putin invaded.
Posted by: Thomas Paine a

please. why the insistence on portraying him as the Crusading Superhero?
Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:33 PM (0G13K)

Could be understood as fear as well. Though I don't think these are very high on his priority list. If they were he'd probably be talking them up a lot more.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2022 04:34 PM (z5Vrg)

11 is there any way we can discuss things without having to make One Side the White Hat Good Guy Hero?

Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:35 PM (0G13K)

12 My wife calls Griffin Snaggletooth

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 04:35 PM (M+Lyo)

13 Or, even simpler: A pit and a lot of kerosene.

I thought that's how you got brain cancer

Posted by: Bruce at March 10, 2022 04:35 PM (vd8XM)

14 They're not her sources, they're her handlers.
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Boom. Spot on. Who was it first called the press whores "stenographers?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2022 04:35 PM (DU+/6)

15 http://thesaker.is/ministry-of-defence-of-the-russian-
federation-statements-and-those-biological-labs/

Look, Saker is and always has been a hardcore Russian fanboy. But what's the alternative? Between the Russian MoD and the Biden regime, who sounds serious and who sounds completely retarded?

I mean, I just thought the Russians were developing propaganda until goddamned Nuland practically confirmed it.

Posted by: trev006 at March 10, 2022 04:35 PM (ttNI0)

16 >>>Could be understood as fear as well. T

sure the russians are super-fearful of the Ukraine's bioweapon program, what with the Russians not having their own

Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:35 PM (0G13K)

17 It's a sound theory.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:35 PM (SjcEJ)

18 Why call Jen Griffin an embed ? She ain't. I promise you, she gets along good enough with all of the primary talent at Fox News. I'll wager that Tucker Carlson even does a funny eye roll as he tells the rest of them the hot takes from the screed he's working up for the coming evening.

Posted by: Statistics at March 10, 2022 04:36 PM (AtNGU)

19 >>>I have no idea to his "real" motives, but taking out biolabs near his border isn't necessarily a superhero thing. There's self-interest at play.

eyeroll

Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:36 PM (0G13K)

20 weird that putin has never even mentioned these biolabs before

Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:36 PM (0G13K)

21 I was Fox News for a few minutes earlier today. They had a raging war boner.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 10, 2022 04:36 PM (UuD2k)

22 They are shocked shocked....

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:36 PM (SjcEJ)

23 So I could believe that, since the fall of the Soviet Union, the US has paid these Ukranian former-Soviet bioweapons scientists to run non-weapons research for us.

Maybe, maybe that's what it is.

So why wouldn't they say so?

Well, possibly because they've been among the labs contracted to do the dangerous gain-of-function virus research that the fucking lunatic supervillain Anthony Fauci is so keen on.
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At very least, along with who knows what other nasty shit they wanted done off the books. As you point out later, they lie as they breathe about everything, even shit they needn't lie about.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (DU+/6)

24 16 >>>Could be understood as fear as well. T

sure the russians are super-fearful of the Ukraine's bioweapon program, what with the Russians not having their own
Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:35 PM (0G13K)

Having a bioweapons program doesn't really help you defend yourself. Though as I said this didn't seem to rate very highly in Russia's list of concerns.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (z5Vrg)

25 She's lying. My guess is we were funding the BioLab to keep the talent in place. We have been building Bio Labs all over the place to lock down knowledgable known talent and surveillance. Fuck.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (2graF)

26 Jack Posobiec was all over Jennifer Griffin last night. She blocked him. So then she had a whole host of trolls go after her. It was fun.

Griffin isn't a hack, she's an embed. Plus she has that demon-look in her eyes.

Back to you, Bret.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (Q3oNv)

27 is there any way we can discuss things without having to make One Side the White Hat Good Guy Hero?
Posted by: Capital-A Ace

I won't rah-rah Ukraine if everyone else will quit tongue bathing Putin's ballsack.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (Ecl8U)

28 And then they send out Jennifer Griffin to read senseless bullshit from a "fact sheet" and Fox News calls it "reporting."

I bet the leftwing news industry gives her awards for her "service."
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Probably. Assholes love giving each other awards.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (DU+/6)

29 >>> 11 is there any way we can discuss things without having to make One Side the White Hat Good Guy Hero?
Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:35 PM (0G13K)

What fun would that be?!

9mm vs .45
longbows vs crossbows
etc...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (llON8)

30 19 >>>I have no idea to his "real" motives, but taking out biolabs near his border isn't necessarily a superhero thing. There's self-interest at play.

eyeroll
Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:36 PM (0G13K)

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Why?

I'm far from a Putin backer here. I honestly don't care about any of it. It's feudal lords fighting over property in my mind, but why could it not be a concern for him? "I have my own biolabs so other country biolabs near me is not a concern?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (LvTSG)

31 Oh, boy. That should have been I saw Fox News.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (UuD2k)

32 Or, even simpler: A pit and a lot of kerosene.
___________

Still simpler: bleach.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (YqDXo)

33 I'll wager that Tucker Carlson even does a funny eye roll as he tells the rest of them the hot takes from the screed he's working up for the coming evening.

I disagree... Tucker is the only bastion of sanity at Fox with the exception of Gutfeld

Posted by: It's me donna at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (J8ILO)

34 >>>Well, possibly because they've been among the labs contracted to do the dangerous gain-of-function virus research that the fucking lunatic supervillain Anthony Fauci is so keen on.

There was some story - TGP maybe - about Bronco crowing about setting up some Ukraine bio lab back in the day. I am willing to bet that The Angel of Death, Science Himself, was point man, and they were working on same type of stuff.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (SH2Zi)

35 I need three separate, unaffiliated sources before I believe anything from the Biden administration.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (/xpZq)

36 Jen Griffin...I bet she's a closet crack whore.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 10, 2022 04:38 PM (g/Dto)

37 "Sources" my black ass, I'm so tired of this shit. Every reporter on Twitter acts like they're Woodward and Bernstein, meeting confidential informants who are risking their careers and lives to get the truth out. But all they're doing is giving an anonymous channel for statements that no one will stand behind because if they're not outright lies, they're just speculation by someone who isn't in a position to know anything.

You know this "sources" epidemic is getting out of hand when nobody ever burns their so-called sources. If I'm a reporter and someone gives me information that I can't attribute and it turns out to be wrong, I look like a chump. I would immediately turn around and identify the person who betrayed my trust. But that never happens, because these clout-chasing dopes want to continue to pretend that they have access to inside information.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 10, 2022 04:38 PM (HhaYz)

38
g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 10, 2022 04:38 PM (DUIap)

39 Jennifer Griffin's husband is also NPR's national security correspondent. So there's that angle.

Want to bet they're both pushing the same line. Oh, look at that. Most of their stories, oddly, match. I guess he hasn't gotten to this one yet.

https://tinyurl.com/yc7b55km

Posted by: Marcus T at March 10, 2022 04:38 PM (VpIIl)

40 "21 I was Fox News for a few minutes earlier today. They had a raging war boner."

Fox News is actually worse than CNN because they are wolves in the chicken house. Bret Baier is an idiot.

But he does look like a monkey.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 10, 2022 04:38 PM (Q3oNv)

41 I mean, I just thought the Russians were developing propaganda until goddamned Nuland practically confirmed it.
Posted by: trev006 at March 10, 2022 04:35 PM (ttNI0)

Same. She had that deer-in-the-headlights look when she realized what she was telling Rubio during that hearing, so of course she (with an assist from Rubio) turned it into a potential biohazard threat from the Russians.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 10, 2022 04:38 PM (Rl7KJ)

42 19 >>>I have no idea to his "real" motives, but taking out biolabs near his border isn't necessarily a superhero thing. There's self-interest at play.
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Make sure you cleanse it thoroughly with fire. Several runs to be sure.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 10, 2022 04:38 PM (2graF)

43
The US/Russians decontaminated the nightmare scenario on Vozrozhdeniya Island (Aralsk-7) in like one year. It didn't take long - just a little Western expertise and creativity.

I imagine there might be other reasons these Ukrainian labs are still around under US auspices.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 10, 2022 04:38 PM (SKVme)

44 As I've said before: I'm sure the US government, which has been very truthful with us about Covid, and the role we've played in funding gain of function research, would never lie to us about bioweapons. I don't need to make any assessment of Putin or Russian propaganda to know my own government is not to be trusted. Because it lies to me. All the time. About everything.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at March 10, 2022 04:39 PM (KFhLj)

45 So, I was feeling pretty low about the inflation at the grocery, but then I saw what my (what did Kamala call it - Eastern Flank/Northern Flank) Polish guest is getting to eat in Poland near the border.

The government is delivering food - you are not supposed to leave your house to shop there. Today, it was canned ham (below spam level) with some bread and a can of pickled veg (peppers and cucumber).

The poor guy's lunch was sad. I asked if I could send him food, and he said anything I sent would take at least a month to arrive, if it actually does. I may still do it anyway and figure out what won't stale out, if I can find some way to do it without bankrupting myself.

Posted by: Nova local at March 10, 2022 04:39 PM (exHjb)

46 After the fall of the Soviet Union, the US wanted to create make-work projects for former Soviet missile and nuclear scientists so that they did not sell their expertise to Iran and North Korea making missiles and nuclear bombs.
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I kinda doubt it. Even if this was the plan - and it might have been, it sounds reasonable enough - it's too much temptation. Having laboratories and research scientists in these fields would be too juicy an opportunity. Even if it started as something like this, you can be sure someone would ask, "why are we paying all this for nothing instead of paying all this for something we can use? Why don't we use this to run something like Operation Paperclip, only none of them actually come here?"

And if this is how the scheme started, that inflection point probably happened by 1995.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2022 04:39 PM (DU+/6)

47 It's 30 years of Department of State Foreign Service-types keeping themselves in jobs after the fall of the USSR as well.

They liked the cozy arrangement they had with the Soviets, where both sides pretended to be genius diplomatic ballerinas, dancing on the heads of pins to keep the nukes from flying, when in reality none of them were very bright and didn't want to have to actually do any work. So both sides winked and touched their noses and agreed to do jack shit.

Without the USSR, these bureaucrats had to find some bullshit to tinker around the edges with, and landed on incompetent meddling in the former republics, where they felt everyone was too dumb, poor, and corrupt to figure it out. They were mostly correct up until about a month ago.

Posted by: ballistic at March 10, 2022 04:39 PM (oXNqT)

48 A pit and a lot of kerosene is actually the solution to all of America's current problems.

But I digress.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 10, 2022 04:39 PM (B1Vad)

49 All reporters ever do is read press releases handed to them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 04:40 PM (XvPQV)

50 You are either with Jen Griffin or you ate with the terrorist, or Russians or white supremacists or... whatever..

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:40 PM (SjcEJ)

51 Wait, you mean we are the bad guys? Fuck me hard. What this country has become.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 10, 2022 04:40 PM (oWBc3)

52 50 You are either with Jen Griffin or you ate with the terrorist, or Russians or white supremacists or... whatever..
Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:40 PM (SjcEJ)

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What did they order?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 10, 2022 04:40 PM (LvTSG)

53 The poor guy's lunch was sad. I asked if I could send him food, and he said anything I sent would take at least a month to arrive, if it actually does. I may still do it anyway and figure out what won't stale out, if I can find some way to do it without bankrupting myself.
Posted by: Nova local

Spam & twinkies will outlast the shelf they're sitting on.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2022 04:40 PM (Ecl8U)

54 *Ate - are

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:40 PM (SjcEJ)

55 Wait- were these meth labs? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (VpIIl)

56 Gave up on Fox years ago

Posted by: Skip at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (2JoB8)

57 Got a friend who goes to Florida every winter hauling Amish down and around. He called today and said he's supposed to bring a load of them back and it'll now cost him $600. The Amish expect to pay him $300 or something like that. He's a former Ammo himself. Nice guy. Last words on call: "We need Trump back."

He's not political.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (Q3oNv)

58 336 bio weapons labs across the world.
26 in Ukraine

Posted by: lemon taint squares at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (tmT7p)

59 2 Jens.

I'll take Griffin.

Granola is a transparent fool.

Posted by: Redenzo at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (E7vND)

60 It would be really bad if Russia got access to the material in these bio-labs that they originally owned, then.

Posted by: SlaveDog at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (w6HA3)

61
What did they order?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido w

The usual.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (SjcEJ)

62 >>> 35 I need three separate, unaffiliated sources before I believe anything from the Biden administration.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 10, 2022 04:37 PM (/xpZq)

>>> 44 As I've said before: I'm sure the US government, which has been very truthful with us about Covid, and the role we've played in funding gain of function research, would never lie to us about bioweapons. I don't need to make any assessment of Putin or Russian propaganda to know my own government is not to be trusted. Because it lies to me. All the time. About everything.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at March 10, 2022 04:39 PM (KFhLj)

Yep. It's not about the ex-KGB guy being some superhero. It's our "own" lying perverted fcknuggets lying about everything.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (llON8)

63 21 I was Fox News for a few minutes earlier today. They had a raging war boner.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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It's going to be just like the Bay of Pigs.

They are going to make a plan, not follow through, get people killed, and make a suck up deal with Russia.

Then say they solved the problem.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (EjQb2)

64 Ace, Bronco 2005 link to Ukraine labs. National Pulse.

https://tinyurl.com/2p8r6vtc

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (SH2Zi)

65 And the government, I mean junta, apologists out in force inthe media and here at home. Empire of lies.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 10, 2022 04:42 PM (oWBc3)

66 State Dept needs full house cleaning. EVERYONE fired and debatable if it ever gets restaffed

Posted by: A dude in MI at March 10, 2022 04:42 PM (/6GbT)

67 53 The poor guy's lunch was sad. I asked if I could send him food, and he said anything I sent would take at least a month to arrive, if it actually does. I may still do it anyway and figure out what won't stale out, if I can find some way to do it without bankrupting myself.
Posted by: Nova local

Spam & twinkies will outlast the shelf they're sitting on.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2022 04:40 PM (Ecl8U)

I was thinking peanut butter b/c he loves nuts...but that's heavy by unit, and weight and shipping tend to be cost-prohibitive.

Posted by: Nova local at March 10, 2022 04:42 PM (exHjb)

68 The more they talk of their honesty, the faster I count my ~~spoons~~ Soviet era bioweapons labs

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2022 04:42 PM (m45I2)

69 2 Jens.

I'll take Griffin.

Granola is a transparent fool.
Posted by: Redenzo at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (E7vND)
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Why does no one ever think of me? My Hitachi "magic wand" has worn out and I'm desperate here, man!

Posted by: Jen Rubin at March 10, 2022 04:42 PM (DU+/6)

70 Also:
https://is.gd/IhLjyd
The first two in particular...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 04:42 PM (llON8)

71 61
What did they order?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido w

The usual.
Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:41 PM (SjcEJ)
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$50 same as in town.

inflation

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 04:42 PM (EjQb2)

72 DeathSantis going hard into the paint:

@ChristinaPushaw 7m
Gov. DeSantis on Disney: "How do they possibly explain lining their pockets with their relationship from the Communist Party of China? Because that's what they do, and they make a fortune, and they don't say a word about the really brutal practices at the hands of the CCP."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2022 04:42 PM (zWpOF)

73 I was planning a road trip from New England down to FL in a couple of weeks. Plans changing seeing that my fuel costs alone are north of $750.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 10, 2022 04:42 PM (N39Ws)

74 The US has biolabs in a lot of places the media is currently not interested in. Most are poor. Like almost all of Africa. The local government is bought off in case something "unexpected" were to happen.

This is commonly called "foreign aid." It's also another avenue for grift.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 10, 2022 04:42 PM (BFigT)

75
They are going to make a plan, not follow through, get people killed, and make a suck up deal with Russia.
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So Afghanistan backwards?

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 10, 2022 04:43 PM (2graF)

76 Believe it or not, FOX's new wonderboy Trey Yingst is as bad or worse than Griffin. He regurgitates whatever the Dept. of Defense tells him to with added histrionics.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 10, 2022 04:43 PM (4thlk)

77 But he does look like a monkey.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 10, 2022 04:38 PM (Q3oNv)

Needs a little red vest with brass buttons, a fez and a cup.

I might even start watching again.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 10, 2022 04:43 PM (wAnMi)

78 Biden made me a pacifist. Didn't see that coming.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 10, 2022 04:43 PM (Q3oNv)

79 So we spent a lot of money on stuff like the International Space Station and the heavy lift rockets (built in Russia) to get it into space.

***

Living in the South I've made it a habit over the years to hit the Huntsville space center tour and kick around Redstone every few years.

I was there back in the 90s when the kids were still little and we were taking the tour at Redstone. They showed us one of the crew modules for the ISS they built there. It had been sitting there for the last couple of years waiting for the Russians to build the next part. I asked the guide what that was supposed to be and he said it was one of the interconnecting airlocks. It took another few years from what I heard for this module to finally get completed by the Russians.

This is also during the time frame of the Clinton term when there were all kinds of rumors flying around about plane loads of cash being sent to Russia in the middle of the night.

Posted by: Azathoth at March 10, 2022 04:43 PM (W3VUu)

80 So why has it never been disclosed until the Russians made the allegation? And only then, it was accidentally addressed as a way to somehow "otherize" anyone with "Trump" tendencies.

We can talk about nuclear weapons being in Ukraine and what to do about it, but not a Soviet-era bio weapons lab that nobody has addressed for almost 30 years? And think of all the aid we've given Ukraine over the decades. No one got around to shutting this thing down?

I'm starting to come to the realization that the US is no longer the "good guy" anymore.

Posted by: Blago at March 10, 2022 04:43 PM (wXQdC)

81
I'm about ready to use kerosene on a bio-rash Willie gave me 30 years ago.

Posted by: VP Kneepad at March 10, 2022 04:43 PM (uO+uX)

82 I kinda doubt it. Even if this was the plan - and it might have been, it sounds reasonable enough - it's too much temptation. Having laboratories and research scientists in these fields would be too juicy an opportunity. Even if it started as something like this, you can be sure someone would ask, "why are we paying all this for nothing instead of paying all this for something we can use? Why don't we use this to run something like Operation Paperclip, only none of them actually come here?"

And if this is how the scheme started, that inflection point probably happened by 1995.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2022 04:39 PM (DU+/6)

It's generally safe to assume governments have secret weapons programs they don't want to talk about it. We accuse other countries of doing it all the time.

The dumb thing about bioweapons is there's not really any scenario in which it makes sense to use them. That also tends to make them ineffective as a deterrent.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2022 04:43 PM (z5Vrg)

83 3 Fauci had COVID created in China.

I can't wait to find out what he made for us in Ukraine!
Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:32 PM (ESjRY)

This would not be a bad time to find some N-95 masks.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at March 10, 2022 04:43 PM (fpzDt)

84 First: There are no biolabs in Ukraine

Then: They aren't our biolabs in Ukraine

A little later: There is nothing in those labs so if anything comes out it is a Russian false flag attack

Now: Those labs, which don't exist, are old Soviet ones full of stuff so dangerous that we couldn't clean it out in 30 years.

And...the people in the FNM repeat each lie as if they didn't report the earlier lie first.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:44 PM (ESjRY)

85 I was Fox News for a few minutes earlier today.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

But you got better?

Was it better or worse than being turned into a newt?

Posted by: mikeski at March 10, 2022 04:44 PM (P1f+c)

86 I used to love the name Jennifer, Jenny, Jen, etc.

Now it's almost as caustic and abrasive as Hillary.

No offense to my SiL. She's cool. Her nickname at the VA hospital she works is Nurse Ratched. Heh.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pugs are goofy at March 10, 2022 04:44 PM (x8Wzq)

87 I think there is a chance this is just bureaucratic incompetence. Anyone who has seen the government at work knows this.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 10, 2022 04:44 PM (VpIIl)

88 Ace's theory does seem plausible that these labs were kept going to keep Russia's Bio Lab versions of Werner Von Braun busy after the USSR breakup. Von Brauns book was called "I Aim For The Stars", but many people aded the subtitle "But Sometimes I hit London". These guys in Ukraine probably drained the bat juice into test tubes and sent them to Wuhan.

Posted by: CoolHandLuke at March 10, 2022 04:44 PM (U2+zT)

89 "Every reporter on Twitter acts like they're Woodward and Bernstein, meeting confidential informants who are risking their careers and lives to get the truth out"

Except maybe Woody and Bernstein were also just fed info from the FBI, because they had a vendetta against Nixon. Their sources were not risking, they were (perhaps) running an Op. (as our FBI does, Ops against Americans that threaten their DeepState cabal)

Posted by: illiniwek at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (Cus5s)

90 Yeah , about China. When are we gonna sanction them?

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (SjcEJ)

91 is there any way we can discuss things without having to make One Side the White Hat Good Guy Hero?

Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it

Russia and Ukraine's governments are both utterly corrupt, as is that of the United States. All three of these entities are therefore technically the "bad guys" whose motivations and actions we should be very wary of.

The only "good guys" involved in this mess are all the civilians in the line of fire in this war, and our soldiers, like nurse ratched's jarhead, who may be sent over there to protect our betters' graft machine thay run through Ukraine.

How did I do?

Posted by: Sharkman at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (B1Vad)

92 President Trump called all of you people, "Losers and Suckers." My sources for this report, like Joe Biden, are "unimpeachable."

Posted by: Jennifer Griffin at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (uWF4x)

93 A brief aside.

Antony Blinken. Who names their kid "Antony"?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (K9eoi)

94 Williwed:

Chemistry departments traditionally have had special sheds to carry out such hydrogenations remote from the main building so that they don't blow up the entire department if someone makes a mistake. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

********

Oh the Humanities Department!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (m45I2)

95 Bet me if you think I'm wrong.
Posted by: Ace at 04:31 PM

no way I'm taking that bet.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (IJES/)

96 so there's years of grants going to these labs. There is a paper trail. Its real.
You can say they aren't US in the sense that they are on foreign soil and nominally owned by Ukraine. Ukraine takes their orders from us on what happens there and who works there.

Ukraine can't be in Nato, because you can't do biological warfare research if you are in Nato. There's a treaty. Ukraine isn't in Nato. The US is tho. Which is why they are now shitting bricks over the very public seeming acknowledgement that they were running bio warfare labs in Ukraine.
Sooper smart people.

Posted by: conspiracy is fact 48 hours later at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (GZHvo)

97 updated with flounder's link information

Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (0G13K)

98 95. Me either. Kahana is 100% correct

Posted by: CN at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (ONvIw)

99 They are going to make a plan, not follow through, get people killed, and make a suck up deal with Russia.

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But that's NOT what Brian Boitano'd do!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 10, 2022 04:46 PM (dfRN6)

100 Jennifer Griffin has a husband? Does "he" drive a Subaru?

Posted by: wth at March 10, 2022 04:46 PM (v0R5T)

101 >>> 88 Ace's theory does seem plausible that these labs were kept going to keep Russia's Bio Lab versions of Werner Von Braun busy after the USSR breakup. Von Brauns book was called "I Aim For The Stars", but many people aded the subtitle "But Sometimes I hit London". These guys in Ukraine probably drained the bat juice into test tubes and sent them to Wuhan.
Posted by: CoolHandLuke at March 10, 2022 04:44 PM (U2+zT)

In 30 years, they couldn't get legitimate jobs, like working at pharmaceutical companies?

Oh wait....

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 04:46 PM (llON8)

102 Wow, Susan GunPowter just blatantly reading Deep State talking points and not even trying to hide it. Just wow.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 10, 2022 04:46 PM (HsAzN)

103 We're supposed to believe "fact sheets" from the very ones who are lying? Is that about right?

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 10, 2022 04:46 PM (sVtYq)

104 Cedential Score Card :

Glasses : + 1

Clipboard : +1

Lab Coat : +2

Cancer Hair : +11

Posted by: garrett at March 10, 2022 04:46 PM (lhr6a)

105 First: There are no biolabs in Ukraine

Then: They aren't our biolabs in Ukraine

A little later: There is nothing in those labs so if anything comes out it is a Russian false flag attack

Now: Those labs, which don't exist, are old Soviet ones full of stuff so dangerous that we couldn't clean it out in 30 years.

And...the people in the FNM repeat each lie as if they didn't report the earlier lie first.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:44 PM (ESjRY)

Crap. It took two years for the covid conspiracies to be confirmed. This is fast and furious.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 10, 2022 04:46 PM (SH2Zi)

106 Barnhardt's meme dump has a real gem in it:
https://is.gd/K7ro5o

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2022 04:46 PM (DU+/6)

107 Yeah, we now know one of the reasons Putin invaded.

And that is the best excuse the Pentagram can offer as to why thirty years of cleanup and still its Super Dangerous?

I mean, this must be the most respectable clean-up in ages. How is it that a bioweapons lab can go thirty plus years without any leak? And during that time, absolutely no one tried to make off with these chimeras?

Absolutely amazing levels of security.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 10, 2022 04:46 PM (lD3vL)

108 90 Yeah , about China. When are we gonna sanction them?
Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (SjcEJ)

The 12th of Never.

Also right after I become a multi-billionaire and women all around the world want to offer me decadence because I'm oh-so brilliant and charming.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 10, 2022 04:47 PM (Rl7KJ)

109 May have been said. Tucker read last night a statement from Sen Lugar (IIRC) about these labs and the studying of these weapons/pathogens. And how happy he was about this.

30 mins later Hannity has Griffen on with just the opposite.

Someone us lying. Lugar 12 years ago. Ot Griffen yesterday. Hmmmmm.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 10, 2022 04:47 PM (0vyCl)

110
psuki pfuki yesterday to twitter:

"Now that Russia has made these false claims, and China has seemingly endorsed this propaganda, we should all be on the lookout for Russia to possibly use chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine, or to create a false flag operation using them. It's a clear pattern."

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 10, 2022 04:47 PM (6jtJ7)

111 Antony Blinken. Who names their kid "Antony"?
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Pretend Italians. You know, every fucker on East coast with an 'i' in their last name.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2022 04:47 PM (zWpOF)

112 I have a lot of respect for Griffen's comeback from brain cancer. But she's no Mercedes Valentine. Now, that's an inspiring comeback!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 10, 2022 04:47 PM (K9eoi)

113 Do you know what makes this group of morons special?

There can be profound disagreement on issues and you're not at each others' throats. I don't know if you all realize how rare that is.

I guess on issues like world events it's because we all realize that it's all beyond our capacity to change outcomes, or that it's in God's hands, but I don't know. Yes, I realize it gets more heated when it *is* in our hands, like elections supposedly are, but I've never seen a site with such a wide array of opinions, markedly in the Putin/Ukraine case, and yet such gentle debate.

The HQ is blessed with good people.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 10, 2022 04:47 PM (OssQ4)

114 Fauci had COVID created in China.

I can't wait to find out what he made for us in Ukraine!
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I know what i saw in the funding was plague and anthrax, ebola, marburg all the big killers.

Posted by: conspiracy is fact 48 hours later at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (UbHrE)

115 Putin's war will last long enough to be the campaign issue donks run on. GND and BBB will be hailed as war relief. I have decided that Putin is in on it, too.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (b+v9B)

116 Update: Huh.

I guess Jen Griffin's "fact sheet" was missing a few facts.

Thanks to flounder.

Woot. Front-page, baby. Thank you very much.

I'm taking the rest of this fall of the empire off.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (SH2Zi)

117 > Got a friend who goes to Florida every winter hauling Amish down and around. He called today and said he's supposed to bring a load of them back and it'll now cost him $600.

I find it hilarious the contortions the Amish will go to to use tech but pretend they're not using tech.

Example: A bunch of them use roller blades as long as they're plain black. Apparently the argument is they're self powered. Fine, but they also are made of plastics and high quality ball bearings and lithium based grease and other things 17th century tech couldn't possibly produce.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (VCz/u)

118 They are probably so caught up lies and half-truths that they don't even recognize a verifiable fact anymore.

On anything.

I'm pretty convinced at this point that EVERYTHING a government person tells you is--shocker--a lie.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (YIVH2)

119 On the one hand, I get it. Its not like you want those kinda places to be in say Tx. or NC. Most European countries don't want that. When did US policy change from "leave no man behind" to f-it, cut and run-leave the guns take the cannolis.

Posted by: pahound at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (uF/xP)

120 113 The HQ is blessed with good people.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 10, 2022 04:47 PM (OssQ4)

========

And then there's Todd.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (LvTSG)

121 Barnhardt's meme dump has a real gem in it:

Needs the yellow and blue color scheme

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (ESjRY)

122 https://nitter.net/dgaytandzhieva/status/ 1501957499448180745?s=19

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (T7iTv)

123 Russia and Ukraine's governments are both utterly corrupt, as is that of the United States. All three of these entities are therefore technically the "bad guys" whose motivations and actions we should be very wary of.

The only "good guys" involved in this mess are all the civilians in the line of fire in this war, and our soldiers, like nurse ratched's jarhead, who may be sent over there to protect our betters' graft machine thay run through Ukraine.

How did I do?
Posted by: Sharkman at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (B1Vad)

Once again, I endorse this view.

Just like the pit and kerosene one

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (XvPQV)

124 "This would not be a bad time to find some N-95 masks."

That reminds me. Were we supposed to get a couple in the mail?

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (vrz2I)

125 111 Pretend Italians

They's have to be pretend. No "y" in Italish.

It would be Antonio.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 10, 2022 04:49 PM (HsAzN)

126 My bet is that there was a lot of Pentagon/CIA infighting about what to do with these labs, and how much money should be spent trying to figure out what all the documentation meant and what the samples were, exactly, and it was low priority because hey, worst case is we just store the bioweapon stuff in case we need it.

My bet is that they are obsolete, and possibly dangerous in their obsolescence, but possibly valuable and expensive to figure out in detail. So they weren't dealt with. IOW they haven't been "trying" to clean them out. They have been "trying" to figure out what they should keep.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 10, 2022 04:49 PM (mZOHK)

127
Someone us lying. Lugar 12 years ago. Ot Griffen yesterday. Hmmmmm.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 10, 2022 04:47 PM (0vyCl)

I saw that.... Tucker ran this and moments later the State dept. issued a statement saying '' That's not Ours" and Tucker read that and said more or less sure we believe you eyeroll

Posted by: It's me donna at March 10, 2022 04:49 PM (J8ILO)

128 The Russian dossier.

The election.

Jan 6th.

Every and all things related to Covid 19.

There isn't a single thing I believe coming from the government.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 10, 2022 04:49 PM (0W3z4)

129 The dumb thing about bioweapons is there's not really any scenario in which it makes sense to use them. That also tends to make them ineffective as a deterrent.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Unless you've persuaded yourself that you've made a virus that only targets who you want it to target. Is there something physically different about a person of ethnicity X versus everyone else that you can isolate and target?

And you've also persuaded yourself that viruses don't mutate.

I mean, that's what Covid could have been, right? Hit the ACE2 receptor, and you've got a virus that disproportionately targets old folks. Heck of a way to fix our Medicare crisis, or China's similar aging-population bomb.

Posted by: mikeski at March 10, 2022 04:49 PM (P1f+c)

130 the thing is is as with soviet scientists, any good scientists there went to work for pfizer, moderna, or in wuhan.

then, since it is 30 years hence, you would have thought they could have retired anybody that was working there.

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 10, 2022 04:49 PM (K3ZCc)

131 I know what i saw in the funding was plague and anthrax, ebola, marburg all the big killers.

COVID death rate = .26%

Ebola death rate = 80%

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:49 PM (ESjRY)

132 Barnhardt's meme dump has a real gem in it:
https://is.gd/K7ro5o
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2022 04:46 PM (DU+/6)
============
Excellent.

John Kerry approves.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 10, 2022 04:49 PM (K9eoi)

133 You know how nuland got to the undersecretary for Europe and Eurasia? The had to get the fucking cunt out of DC after she was implicit in the fiasco that was Benghazi. This bitch has a lot of blood on her hands.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 10, 2022 04:49 PM (dJeOW)

134 My mom says the the good ole boys on Chincoteague want to build a self storage building in one of the vacant swamps on the island.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at March 10, 2022 04:49 PM (b+v9B)

135 I find it hilarious the contortions the Amish will go to to use tech but pretend they're not using tech.

Example: A bunch of them use roller blades as long as they're plain black. Apparently the argument is they're self powered. Fine, but they also are made of plastics and high quality ball bearings and lithium based grease and other things 17th century tech couldn't possibly produce.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (VCz/u)

Some of them are not anti-tech. But they're all pretty careful about what they let into their daily life.

Even my lazy ass can see a certain appeal. It's why I have a library.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 04:50 PM (XvPQV)

136 21 I was Fox News for a few minutes earlier today. They had a raging war boner.
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Yeah, they're pimping it pretty hard. I watched yesterday too, and the thought occurred to me that this is a done deal. We're going to be in this war by hook or by crook.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 10, 2022 04:50 PM (sWM8x)

137 "Now that Russia has made these false claims, and China has seemingly endorsed this propaganda, we should all be on the lookout for Russia to possibly use chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine, or to create a false flag operation using them. It's a clear pattern."
==
So that's how they'll just give themselves permission to release their redesigned small pox variant. The Russian's did it!!! yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: conspiracy is fact 48 hours later at March 10, 2022 04:50 PM (GZHvo)

138 You drive 16 Amish, what do you get?
Another day older and your dick don't get wet.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 10, 2022 04:50 PM (HsAzN)

139 >>>I'm pretty convinced at this point that EVERYTHING a government person tells you is--shocker--a lie.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Why, just because they lied to us about Covid for two years, or because they lied about the vaccine, or they lied about January 6th, etc., etc.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 10, 2022 04:50 PM (bkUtD)

140 > I used to love the name Jennifer, Jenny, Jen, etc.

When I was in college, pretty much every fourth young lady was named Jennifer. My buddies and I used to enjoy walking up to a group of ladies and saying, "Hi, Jen," just to see two or three of them start to wonder how we knew them.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 04:50 PM (VCz/u)

141 Fox News is actually worse than CNN because they are wolves in the chicken house.
Posted by: MaxMBJ

"They're CNN with eagles and flags everyfuckingwhere." -- Ace

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 10, 2022 04:50 PM (OssQ4)

142 Who names their kid "Antony"?

Somebody wit a lisp?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 10, 2022 04:51 PM (BFigT)

143 Oh look at that. I'm at least mostly wrong. Not the first time.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 10, 2022 04:51 PM (mZOHK)

144 I don't know when, but our entire government has learned there's no consequences for lying.

And it's all just so weird and surreal watching them lie with half the country nodding along.
And it's horrifying because the result of not being punished for lies is more lies.

We've entered the "brazen and bizarre lies" phase. "Aurora borealis in my kitchen" type lies.

Posted by: Well at March 10, 2022 04:51 PM (zx0Ol)

145 I believe looking at the map, the Russians control the area where a couple of these labs are located.

So...I guess we get to see if the Russians drop a press conference talking about their findings soon?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:51 PM (ESjRY)

146 Well, possibly because they've been among the labs contracted to do the dangerous gain-of-function virus research that the fucking lunatic supervillain Anthony Fauci is so keen on.

---------------------

I think you and everyone is wrong about this. The real work there is to prolong life, just look at the evidence. Everybody in power everywhere is an octogenarian and older including Fauci, none of them are dying. Everyone else is dying.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 10, 2022 04:51 PM (VVqfM)

147 There isn't a single thing I believe coming from the government.

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Nope. Nothing.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 10, 2022 04:51 PM (sVtYq)

148 You know how nuland got to the undersecretary for Europe and Eurasia? The had to get the fucking cunt out of DC after she was implicit in the fiasco that was Benghazi. This bitch has a lot of blood on her hands.
==
O dude. She's a Hillary level evil.

Posted by: simplemind at March 10, 2022 04:51 PM (M0QqG)

149 I don't know what the truth is. But the sourcing on that document/screengrab is questionable.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (VpIIl)

150 No war for oil !

the old days

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (M+Lyo)

151 "Why haven't you just cleaned the bioweapons lab?"

"What... like with a cloth?"

Yes... they think we're that stupid.

Posted by: red speck at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (gS3OW)

152 >>She's a Hillary level evil.

And dumber than AOC.

Posted by: garrett at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (lhr6a)

153 336 bio weapons labs across the world.
26 in Ukraine
Posted by: lemon taint squares

Are the other 310 also Soviet-era labs?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (OssQ4)

154 148 You know how nuland got to the undersecretary for Europe and Eurasia? The had to get the fucking cunt out of DC after she was implicit in the fiasco that was Benghazi. This bitch has a lot of blood on her hands.
==
O dude. She's a Hillary level evil.
Posted by: simplemind at March 10, 2022 04:51 PM (M0QqG)

=======

Hillary started a war in Libya to make herself look tough for an upcoming election. This means that the world would be at peace if women were in charge of every government.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (LvTSG)

155 Modern Amish bishops are very different than the ones in Ohio from my youth. Second homes in Florida? Riding in truck beds or RV's?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (K9eoi)

156 Didn't we clean out Sadam's bio-weapons labs and stockpile while at the same time fighting a war?

Did that take 30 years?

Posted by: 29Victor at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (BJKQV)

157 "My mom says the the good ole boys on Chincoteague want to build a self storage building in one of the vacant swamps on the island."

When it sinks into the swamp they can build another on top.

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (vrz2I)

158 Antony Blinken. Who names their kid "Antony"?

Someone who *really* wants a gay son.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (ZGrMX)

159 >>> 137 "Now that Russia has made these false claims, and China has seemingly endorsed this propaganda, we should all be on the lookout for Russia to possibly use chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine, or to create a false flag operation using them. It's a clear pattern."
==
So that's how they'll just give themselves permission to release their redesigned small pox variant. The Russian's did it!!! yeah, that's the ticket.
Posted by: conspiracy is fact 48 hours later at March 10, 2022 04:50 PM (GZHvo)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Bill Gates at March 10, 2022 04:53 PM (llON8)

160 And it's all just so weird and surreal watching them lie with half the country nodding along.

I've noticed the lefty LIVs literally just repeat whatever Colbert or whoever tells them to say.

But...it isn't half. The left is maybe 25-33%, both LIVs and commies. The ultimately problem is the 50% of the populace that knows NOTHING and cares to learn NOTHING.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:53 PM (ESjRY)

161 >>>No war for oil !

the old days
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway

I think all the Code Pink ladies have passed on, or they are professional Karens now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 10, 2022 04:53 PM (bkUtD)

162 A pit and kerosene would not suffice to safely destroy biohazards or chemwar toxinx.

What *would* work, is cover the floors (all of them) and countertops (all of them) of every room of the facilities, with a six-inch depth of Thermite, and then bank Thermite against the exterior walls to at least 1/2 way up the walls. And a one-foot layer of Thermite atop any available flat or flat-ish roofs. Then, light 'er off.

That's a +4,000 degree incinerator, right there on the spot. Without having to have disturb one single beaker, container tank of liquid or freezer of death. 4k degrees f, there won't even be any melted metal left to testify as to what once stood there. It'll all have burnt down to atoms.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 10, 2022 04:53 PM (QzJWU)

163 156 Didn't we clean out Sadam's bio-weapons labs and stockpile while at the same time fighting a war?

Did that take 30 years?

Posted by: 29Victor at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (BJKQV)

He wasn't doing anything interesting.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 10, 2022 04:53 PM (mZOHK)

164 That update has Fucking Lunatic Supervillain Fauci written all over it.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 10, 2022 04:53 PM (B1Vad)

165 We could solve the timber shortage if everyone in DC grew a wooden nose. Lumberjacks, report for duty.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 10, 2022 04:53 PM (u82oZ)

166 145 I believe looking at the map, the Russians control the area where a couple of these labs are located.

So...I guess we get to see if the Russians drop a press conference talking about their findings soon?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:51 PM (ESjRY)

I think they'd more likely try to use it as negotiating leverage first.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2022 04:54 PM (z5Vrg)

167 The woke company downtown with the fancy any color sign was blue/gold. Its back to the normal white now.

Posted by: A dude in MI at March 10, 2022 04:54 PM (/6GbT)

168 My mom says the the good ole boys on Chincoteague want to build a self storage building in one of the vacant swamps on the island."

When it sinks into the swamp they can build another on top.
==
They're good ol boys. They put pontoons on it. Watch.

Posted by: red neck engineering at March 10, 2022 04:54 PM (mwv8V)

169 The Sopranos got one thing right; when Tony went to Italy, they actually showed a bit of the contempt real Italians have for Pretend Italians. Not much, and certainly too friendly, but they were going in the right direction.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2022 04:54 PM (zWpOF)

170 When will we sanction China?

Sanction
1. a threatened penalty for disobeying a law or rule
2. official permission or approval for an action (as in "sanctioned hit")

Usage two, USA has sanctioned China ... to totally steal what they want, break all rules, run slaves, kill millions with bio-weapons.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 10, 2022 04:54 PM (Cus5s)

171 >>Did that take 30 years?

"The Republicans cut our Funding!"

Posted by: garrett at March 10, 2022 04:54 PM (lhr6a)

172 they'll release another bio weapon on us rather than face a reckoning

Posted by: x at March 10, 2022 04:55 PM (uQFwj)

173 I wouldn't be surprised if Jennifer Griffen quits. I get the feeling she's really starting to annoy the hosts, you can just tell by the tone of their voices that she is getting on their nerves. Sure they're cordial, but you can tell.
She gets great pleasure correcting them with her pentagon talking points.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 10, 2022 04:55 PM (NpAcC)

174 Even if you take Griffin's recitation of Pentagon talking points at face value and believe it to be true......she says the program started in 2005? That's still *17 years ago*. They couldn't get this done in 17 years?

Posted by: radar at March 10, 2022 04:55 PM (RMtE9)

175 I think the real story, more or less, is that Ukraine, being dirt-poor and corrupt as hell, has been a playground for the US and other western governments to do all kinds of things that they could never do on their own soil, ranging from bioweapons research to laundering tax dollars through NGOs to their friends (or even themselves).

Putin may be an authoritarian thug, but the whole western establishment was fine with having an authoritarian thug in charge in the Kremlin--he was certainly a useful foil for them in attacking Trump--until he decided to step onto their playground.

Posted by: Cybernetic at March 10, 2022 04:55 PM (xawZJ)

176 I think you and everyone is wrong about this. The real work there is to prolong life, just look at the evidence. Everybody in power everywhere is an octogenarian and older including Fauci, none of them are dying. Everyone else is dying.
Posted by: President Select Decaf

Oh, shit. That's a new one. I'm scared to think that in two years, that'll go from late night radio to accepted fact.

Posted by: MkY at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (cPGH3)

177 Don't the Amish have "Rumpelskiltzen" or something which is like a year of "Spring-break" or something? Hard to believe anyone comes back from that and starts building sheds or whatever.

Posted by: pahound at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (uF/xP)

178 If the last two years have taught this freckled redhead in a tank top anything, it's that she has no desire to live through yet another pathogen release from a biolab in a shithole country that is paid for by her tax dollars:
https://is.gd/vvoS7O

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (DU+/6)

179 169 The Sopranos got one thing right; when Tony went to Italy, they actually showed a bit of the contempt real Italians have for Pretend Italians. Not much, and certainly too friendly, but they were going in the right direction.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2022 04:54 PM (zWpOF)

----------

"And you thought the Germans were classless pieces of shit"

hahahaha....loved that episode.

Posted by: radar at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (RMtE9)

180 170 When will we sanction China?
==============
Hopefully at the same time we sanction NIH

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (K9eoi)

181 I think they'd more likely try to use it as negotiating leverage first.

I am half expecting in a couple of days for Zelensky to give Putin everything he wants, the war to drop out of the news, and the globocorps all try to kiss up to Putin again before the fall.

But...not before Biden gets a Ukraine rebuilding bill passed that gives him 10%.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (ESjRY)

182 Second homes in Florida? Riding in truck beds or RV's?
---
Well, there's Old Order Amish and Commiehomo Spawn of Satan Amish...

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (sWM8x)

183 "he decided to step onto their playground."

And that is exactly it.

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (vrz2I)

184 I find it hilarious the contortions the Amish will go to to use tech but pretend they're not using tech.

Example: A bunch of them use roller blades as long as they're plain black. Apparently the argument is they're self powered. Fine, but they also are made of plastics and high quality ball bearings and lithium based grease and other things 17th century tech couldn't possibly produce.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 04:48 PM (VCz/u)

Some of them are not anti-tech. But they're all pretty careful about what they let into their daily life.

Even my lazy ass can see a certain appeal. It's why I have a library.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 04:50 PM (XvPQV)

Don't they like things well crafted as long as they don't use demon electricity and gasoline?

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (y7DUB)

185 Unless you've already primed your population with vaccines for the unreleased bioweapon, germ VS germ warfare doesn't make much sense as a deterrent.

If someone released some bioweapon, just nuke the little doodah outta them. No thought required.

The reason though you'd use a bioweapon is so that there's no fingerprints.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (OMayC)

186 Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at March 10, 2022 04:53 PM (QzJWU)

Oh fill my eyes, with that thermite sunset

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (M+Lyo)

187 >>4 Even if you take Griffin's recitation of Pentagon talking points at face value and believe it to be true......she says the program started in 2005? That's still *17 years ago*. They couldn't get this done in 17 years?

"With a budget of just under 300 Million dollars? Shall we turn water into wine, next?"

Posted by: garrett at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (lhr6a)

188 Funny, isn't it, how Obama was involved in setting up that Ukraine lab (from the article at the end of the post)?

Nothing that goes on today is really "politics" as traditionally understood by citizens of an advanced democracy.

We're all marks.

Posted by: Revenant at March 10, 2022 04:57 PM (LRhmV)

189 my latest theory

Russia is effectively triangulating India (just like in the old days) away from the US. I never really thought about this lately, but I imagine part of putin's "mulitpolar" strategy requires feeding them (and brazil, etc.) propaganda to keep them from aligning with the US. That is easy for most countries, but for India it takes some effort since they are actually at war with China. Stalin always managed it though.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 10, 2022 04:57 PM (76Ab6)

190 I should put up some numbers relating to ukie lobbying in DC. Staggering. Don't have em handy at the moment. Saudi pales in comparison.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:57 PM (SjcEJ)

191 177 Don't the Amish have "Rumpelskiltzen" or something which is like a year of "Spring-break" or something? Hard to believe anyone comes back from that and starts building sheds or whatever.
Posted by: pahound at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (uF/xP)

Yeah, a 'wilding year', I don't know the German word they use for it. Again, I can see why you'd go back. The modern world frankly sucks.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 04:57 PM (XvPQV)

192 "he decided to step onto their playground."

And that is exactly it.

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (vrz2I)

This.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 10, 2022 04:57 PM (SH2Zi)

193 They's have to be pretend. No "y" in Italish. It would be Antonio.
Posted by: Guy Smiley

********

Some people look at the alphabet and say "Y"? Italians look at the alphabet and say "Y not"?

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2022 04:57 PM (m45I2)

194 Gov. DeSantis on Disney: "How do they possibly explain lining their pockets with their relationship from the Communist Party of China? Because that's what they do, and they make a fortune, and they don't say a word about the really brutal practices at the hands of the CCP."

https://bit.ly/3sZHjBe

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 04:58 PM (VCz/u)

195 Don't the Amish have "Rumpelskiltzen" or something which is like a year of "Spring-break" or something? Hard to believe anyone comes back from that and starts building sheds or whatever.
Posted by: pahound

"Rumspringa".

Some of them drink enough for 6 lifetimes. Most of the kids do not leave the faith after that believe it or not.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2022 04:58 PM (WnnCS)

196 Don't they like things well crafted as long as they don't use demon electricity and gasoline?
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (y7DUB)

My favorite is the electric Amish stove made from pressboard with the fake flame

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 04:58 PM (M+Lyo)

197 175 I think the real story, more or less, is that Ukraine, being dirt-poor and corrupt as hell, has been a playground for the US and other western governments to do all kinds of things that they could never do on their own soil, ranging from bioweapons research to laundering tax dollars through NGOs to their friends (or even themselves).

Putin may be an authoritarian thug, but the whole western establishment was fine with having an authoritarian thug in charge in the Kremlin--he was certainly a useful foil for them in attacking Trump--until he decided to step onto their playground.

Posted by: Cybernetic at March 10, 2022 04:55 PM (xawZJ)

It's almost as though you have a whole stratum of society that governs without regard for the well being of the people who are governed.

yet this cannot be.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 10, 2022 04:58 PM (mZOHK)

198 189 my latest theory

Russia is effectively triangulating India (just like in the old days) away from the US. I never really thought about this lately, but I imagine part of putin's "mulitpolar" strategy requires feeding them (and brazil, etc.) propaganda to keep them from aligning with the US. That is easy for most countries, but for India it takes some effort since they are actually at war with China. Stalin always managed it though.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 10, 2022 04:57 PM (76Ab6)

India and Russia are natural partners against China. The US's willingness to participate is by comparison far more ambiguous.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2022 04:58 PM (z5Vrg)

199 Quid pro quo , baby.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:58 PM (SjcEJ)

200 I wanna get Jen Psaki and Jen Griffin to make a meat sandwich out of me, and then we'll see about where the bioweapons are coming from. Mass destruction!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 10, 2022 04:58 PM (oWZwa)

201 That's why I don't care about Ukraine. They are run by corrupt politicians and businessmen in cahoots with our corrupt politicians and businessmen. F'em.

As far as Russia goes, f' them too. There aint no good guy.

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (vrz2I)

202 >>> 176 I think you and everyone is wrong about this. The real work there is to prolong life, just look at the evidence. Everybody in power everywhere is an octogenarian and older including Fauci, none of them are dying. Everyone else is dying.
Posted by: President Select Decaf

Oh, shit. That's a new one. I'm scared to think that in two years, that'll go from late night radio to accepted fact.
Posted by: MkY at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (cPGH3)

Could be both.

After all, they are so SMAHHHHHRT, they *deserve* to have extended lifespans to look over the rest of us.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (llON8)

203 "Rumspringa".

Some of them drink enough for 6 lifetimes. Most of the kids do not leave the faith after that believe it or not.

Isn't sending kids to a 4 year college kind of the same idea?

Hey...go party for 4 years and don't worry about anything besides not getting an STD...and then you can join the "real world"

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (ESjRY)

204 Yes - The Big Guy gets 10% of all Bio Lab profits. It's in his contract.

Posted by: CoolHandLuke at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (U2+zT)

205 I don't think people here are necessarily cheerleading for Putin.

But it would be a little easier to have an opinion against him if our own government would stop lying to us.

It's boy who cried wolf syndrome. We've been lied to about everything for two years, so why should we believe them now?

I'm with TJM, I don't care who wins this, I'm just rooting for an early end. And I don't regret the egg that our corrupt leaders will get on their face as their lies and corruprion are exposed.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (wWYTv)

206 Except maybe Woody and ... DeepState cabal)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 10, 2022 04:45 PM (Cus5s)
=============

Woodward was Navy intel and also something in the White House.

He's in like Flynn.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (EjQb2)

207 Don't they like things well crafted as long as they don't use demon electricity and gasoline?
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (y7DUB)

A lot depends on the community rules. Some use electricity and gas engines, some are pure horse and muscle power for 95%

But they do all value durability, simplicity, things that are functional and not flashy. They are anti-fashion.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (XvPQV)

208 India and Russia go way back. But now we have Russia and Pakistan too,

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (SjcEJ)

209 Be careful out there among the English.

Posted by: Archer at March 10, 2022 05:00 PM (gmo/4)

210 > Don't the Amish have "Rumpelskiltzen" or something which is like a year of "Spring-break" or something?

Rumspringa.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:00 PM (VCz/u)

211 Everything our government and its media mouthpieces say is bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:00 PM (II3Gr)

212 Don't trust Pockeestahn

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 05:00 PM (M+Lyo)

213 175 I think the real story, more or less, is that Ukraine, being dirt-poor and corrupt as hell, has been a playground for the US and other western governments to do all kinds of things that they could never do on their own soil, ranging from bioweapons research to laundering tax dollars through NGOs to their friends (or even themselves).

Putin may be an authoritarian thug, but the whole western establishment was fine with having an authoritarian thug in charge in the Kremlin--he was certainly a useful foil for them in attacking Trump--until he decided to step onto their playground.

Posted by: Cybernetic at March 10, 2022 04:55 PM (xawZJ)

Well said.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at March 10, 2022 05:01 PM (fpzDt)

214 If the last two years have taught this freckled redhead in a tank top anything, it's that she has no desire to live through yet another pathogen release from a biolab in a shithole country that is paid for by her tax dollars:
https://is.gd/vvoS7O
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (DU+/6)

I admire that. And with nipples like that, I admire her lack of desire for a bra, too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 05:01 PM (XvPQV)

215 Putin may be an authoritarian thug, but the whole western establishment was fine with having an authoritarian thug in charge in the Kremlin--he was certainly a useful foil for them in attacking Trump--until he decided to step onto their playground.

Spot on!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at March 10, 2022 05:01 PM (nxdel)

216 Basic sonzoo is let your opponents fight.

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 05:01 PM (vrz2I)

217 I see no mention of lime. Or hogs.

It is like I do not even know you people.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:01 PM (QCwhW)

218 To be clear, I'm a fan of the Amish. Have a massive Amish dresser in the bedroom that will certainly outlast me....

Posted by: pahound at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (uF/xP)

219 208 India and Russia go way back. But now we have Russia and Pakistan too,
Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (SjcEJ)

The enemy of my enemy is my friend in foreign policy, but the friend of my enemy is not necessarily my enemy curiously enough. The US also tried to maintain strong relations with both India and Pakistan.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (z5Vrg)

220 177 Don't the Amish have "Rumpelskiltzen" or something which is like a year of "Spring-break" or something? Hard to believe anyone comes back from that and starts building sheds or whatever.
Posted by: pahound at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (uF/xP)

---------

Rumspringa, and the way it's portrayed on television is mostly fiction. All it means is the time when an Amish teenager decides whether to be baptized into their church. Some of them wear modern clothes for a while, learn to drive, etc. and see how appealing it is to them. It's not Girls Gone Wild, Amish Edition.

Amish actually do plenty of drinking, being German in origin and all. Anyone who's spent time in Amish country knows that.

Posted by: radar at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (RMtE9)

221 Amish Mafia > Putin's Mafia

Posted by: CoolHandLuke at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (U2+zT)

222 Or, even simpler: A pit and a lot of kerosene.

Still simpler: bleach.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Right. This is very literally Not Rocket Science.

Cancelled!

The Science says masking children, lockdowns, and vaccinating 100% of the population at warp speed - and ONLY THOSE THINGS - will clean up biohazard virus-y stuff.

Posted by: Dr. Karen Karenauci at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (786Ro)

223 Isn't sending kids to a 4 year college kind of the same idea?

Hey...go party for 4 years and don't worry about anything besides not getting an STD...and then you can join the "real world"
Posted by: 18-1

Nah, some of us get engineering degrees.

So no need for the STD warning.

Posted by: mikeski at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (P1f+c)

224 Posted by: Jim at March 10, 2022 04:53 PM (QzJWU)

That's one way, and it'll obviously work.

One other way, mentioned in "The Hot Zone", is to fumigate the entire facility with formaldehyde for days. The gaseous formaldehyde should seep around, cross-link everything, and make everything biologically inert.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (Rl7KJ)

225 21 I was Fox News for a few minutes earlier today. They had a raging war boner.

in the future, everyone will be fox news for fifteen minutes.

Posted by: Andy Warhol at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (v3pYe)

226 I admire that. And with nipples like that, I admire her lack of desire for a bra, too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 05:01 PM (XvPQV)

Could put your eye out with one of those things.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (II3Gr)

227 I see no mention of lime. Or hogs.

It is like I do not even know you people.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:01 PM (QCwhW)

There was talk of thermite

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 05:03 PM (M+Lyo)

228 "So we spent a lot of money on stuff like the International Space Station and the heavy lift rockets (built in Russia) to get it into space."

Whatever happens in the Russia-Ukraine mess, if Putin remains in control in Russia and Biden and NATO label him a war criminal, how can the US "morally" justify continuing to work with Russia on the ISS? A cut to Putin comes out of any money the state space enterprise, Roscosmos, makes from foreign work in the Russian segment of ISS. The Russians can't run their part of ISS without the US/European/Japanese part.

However, today, we can't run our part without the Russian part. Because the Russian part has the only thrusters powerful enough for significant debris avoidance and orbit re-boost maneuvers, and for attitude hold for dockings of vehicles to ISS. Only the Russians can refill the on-board tanks for those thrusters, and only Russia can control all of that from the ground, if needed.

A wonderful situation, no?

Musk may be able to provide enough Dragons at the ISS simultaneously to enable non-Russian ISS maneuvers and attitude control using the Dragon thrusters. But not for an unknown time from today.

Posted by: Gref at March 10, 2022 05:03 PM (AMIL/)

229 Good article at Real Clear Investigations on how "Ukraine Worked With Democrats Against Trump in 2016 to Stop Putin"

https://bit.ly/3sZB1l4

Posted by: 29Victor at March 10, 2022 05:03 PM (BJKQV)

230 I don't find despising Putin difficult at all.

He crossed a sovereign border and is in the process of murdering people and raping women. Kremlin also admitted that it was a thermobaric bomb.

Despicable, he should be put down like mad dog.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:03 PM (EjQb2)

231 Could put your eye out with one of those things.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker.

And I'd let her!

Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2022 05:03 PM (WnnCS)

232 Now, that's just mean!

https://bit.ly/3CBtDzx

Posted by: Elizabeth Holmes at March 10, 2022 05:03 PM (FVME7)

233
Russell Brand is Fire!

Every day he digs deeper and deeper. He gives no fartclams!

Today, he went straight for the biden family connection to Ukraine.

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 10, 2022 05:04 PM (dduId)

234 I see no mention of lime. Or hogs.

It is like I do not even know you people.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:01 PM (QCwhW)

There was talk of thermite
==
But not white phosphorus.

Posted by: a single tear running down a moron cheek at March 10, 2022 05:04 PM (Abixs)

235 What has been so... hilarious/disturbing/bemusing about the information age is that people's store of useful knowledge- meaning knowledge they understand and can work with and inductively reason- from has shrunk down to the size of Obama's testicles.

That's Mike Obama.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:04 PM (QCwhW)

236 I see no mention of lime. Or hogs.

It is like I do not even know you people.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:01 PM (QCwhW)

There was talk of thermite
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 05:03 PM (M+Lyo)

I like thermite

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 05:04 PM (M+Lyo)

237 I admire that. And with nipples like that, I admire her lack of desire for a bra, too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 05:01 PM (XvPQV)

Could put your eye out with one of those things.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (II3Gr)

Listen up, eyes. One of you has to take one for the team.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 10, 2022 05:04 PM (SH2Zi)

238 I'm not an expert, but I think deterrents only work if you make them public. There's not much to deter by the time the enemy is rolling up the highway to your capital and shelling it.

I guess that doesn't mean they couldn't have developed/stockpiled bio agents, but they aren't a deterrent any more.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 10, 2022 05:04 PM (P4LRL)

239 Could put your eye out with one of those things.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (II3Gr)

Well redhead....danger is implied

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 05:04 PM (XvPQV)

240 I'm with TJM, I don't care who wins this, I'm just rooting for an early end. And I don't regret the egg that our corrupt leaders will get on their face as their lies and corruprion are exposed.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (wWYTv)

ace thinks if you do not believe and promote all the lies even if you know they are untrue, you love Putin and the future will remember you poorly.

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:04 PM (9otr5)

241 any random Amish > Justin Amash

Posted by: Hands at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (786Ro)

242 157, yep. The local FD will slap a pony logo on it and give tours around the island.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (b+v9B)

243 A lot depends on the community rules. Some use electricity and gas engines, some are pure horse and muscle power for 95%

But they do all value durability, simplicity, things that are functional and not flashy. They are anti-fashion.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (XvPQV)

Definitely community rules apply. In Mesopotamia Ohio, someone with some local pull figured out they need some genetic input from elsewhere if they didn't want to be a colony of albiners with rickets. The teens out there are much more tuned into popular culture than I'd seen elsewhere without being obnoxious.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (y7DUB)

244
Meanwhile, that stupid cartoonist who thinks he's smarter than everyone, Scott Adams, is still trying to be an internet Edge Lord with his lame "hot takes."

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (dduId)

245 238 I'm not an expert, but I think deterrents only work if you make them public. There's not much to deter by the time the enemy is rolling up the highway to your capital and shelling it.

I guess that doesn't mean they couldn't have developed/stockpiled bio agents, but they aren't a deterrent any more.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 10, 2022 05:04 PM (P4LRL)

There's also the problem that you would never deploy a bioweapon early or in the middle of a war. Because you're hitting yourself at the same time. By the time you'd consider using it, you're pretty much wiped out and it'd be nothing more than revenge at the entire world.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (z5Vrg)

246 Could put your eye out with one of those things.
Posted by: Insomniac

Well redhead....danger is implied
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

The missing eye is a convenient soul-extraction point.

Posted by: mikeski at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (P1f+c)

247 Bioweapons are easy to handle. Dig 24 inch deep hole, toss in 3 inches of thermite. Carefully place bioweapon container in thermite. Cover in 4 inches of additional thermite. Light thermite with Independence Day sparkler.

Posted by: ravenshrike at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (Sn8FP)

248 I'm not an expert, but I think deterrents only work if you make them public.
Posted by: hogmartin

Wasn't this mentioned in Dr. Strangelove?

Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (WnnCS)

249 Listen up, eyes. One of you has to take one for the team.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 10, 2022 05:04 PM (SH2Zi)

Time to separate the men from the boys, eyes.

*locks eyes in cage, drops knife through bars*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:06 PM (QCwhW)

250 My mom says the the good ole boys on Chincoteague want to build a self storage building in one of the vacant swamps on the island."

*******

Do they still have ponies there? Because I seem to recall several Morons have expressed the desire to have a pony.

#MeToo

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2022 05:06 PM (m45I2)

251 Or, even simpler: A pit and a lot of kerosene.

------

Nancy Pelosi just had another orgasm. Thanks.

Posted by: Undocumented at March 10, 2022 05:06 PM (Y08Vx)

252 Could put your eye out with one of those things.
Posted by: Insomniac

Well redhead....danger is implied
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

The missing eye is a convenient soul-extraction point.
Posted by: mikeski at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (P1f+c)

I knew it!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 05:06 PM (XvPQV)

253 The US also tried to maintain strong relations with both India and Pakistan.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
=============

India wanted to buy F-22s but Brak said NO, you buy F-35 India said NO we buy F-22 knock off from China.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:06 PM (EjQb2)

254 If the last two years have taught this freckled redhead in a tank top anything, it's that she has no desire to live through yet another pathogen release from a biolab in a shithole country that is paid for by her tax dollars:
https://is.gd/vvoS7O
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (DU+/6)

I don't know what we would do without you

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 05:06 PM (M+Lyo)

255 Gator pit for this bitch.

Please don't watch Fox News.

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 10, 2022 05:07 PM (GYllL)

256 Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov made the claim that one of the reasons Russia needed to invade Ukraine was because of dangerous biolabs located in the country with potential stockpiles of bioweapons. It is not the first time Russia has made such a claim. It made the same accusation about a lab in the Republic of Georgia in 2018. Similarly, the Chinese Communist Party has pointed to the U.S. Army biomedical research facility at Fort Dietrick in Maryland, claiming it was a potential source of the COVID-19 virus.

[...] Meanwhile, the Chinese Communist Party has been clear about its own intentions to develop and potentially use bioweapons. Colonel Guo Ji-wei and other PLA scientific researchers have promoted biological weapons and "bio-based" war in Chinese military journals. In "The Unnatural Origin of SARS and New Species of Man-Made Viruses as genetic Bioweapons," Chinese military scientists even suggest that World War III will be fought with biological weapons.

https://tinyurl.com/bd8rybd7

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 10, 2022 05:07 PM (UHVv4)

257 Somebody upstream said the Amish have bishops? Is that right?

Sounds a little too Apostolic to me. "Elders" I can understand, but "bishops" seems odd.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (dfRN6)

258 Biological weapons have to be the stupidest idea ever thought up. A nuke you can point. It has a discrete radius of effect (for given values of discrete.) Hell, even chemical weapons make sense in certain circumstances.

Biological? A weapon you cannot control is madness.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (QCwhW)

259 Could put your eye out with one of those things.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:02 PM (II3Gr)

Challenge accepted!

Posted by: johnd01 at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (ukNFU)

260 #256 Introduction...
"The argument isn't uncommon, referring to the fine line walked by scientists that can slide (and very occasionally has) from the helpful biological countermeasures to the deceitful biological weapons. The creation of the latter while claiming the former is known as dual-use research. In the 1950s, scientists were accused of this behavior when they developed a novel version of the polio virus, used to create the polio vaccine. Critics argued the release of this virus could decimate an unprepared population while the scientists tried to reassure them it was only for the beneficial cause of a miracle treatment."

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (UHVv4)

261 MuhFairAndBalanced

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (p5/6f)

262 Meanwhile, that stupid cartoonist who thinks he's smarter than everyone, Scott Adams, is still trying to be an internet Edge Lord with his lame "hot takes."

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (dduId)

Hot take: Scott, they're not your kids. Let her take care of them if she's leaving you.

Posted by: trev006 at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (ttNI0)

263 Could put your eye out with one of those things.
Posted by: Insomniac

Well redhead....danger is implied
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Nature's way of saying "danger!"

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (II3Gr)

264 Reuters
@Reuters
EXCLUSIVE Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians http://reut.rs/3tKVeud

Posted by: redridinghood at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (NpAcC)

265 USB not determined to strike US

from Pentagon fact sheet, read by Colon Powell

Posted by: REDACTED at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (us2H3)

266 >> If the last two years have taught this freckled redhead in a tank top anything, it's that she has no desire to live through yet another pathogen release from a biolab in a shithole country that is paid for by her tax dollars:
https://is.gd/vvoS7O
Posted by: Joe Mannix

No green eyes so, not a soul sucker.

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (GYllL)

267 248 I'm not an expert, but I think deterrents only work if you make them public.
Posted by: hogmartin

Wasn't this mentioned in Dr. Strangelove?
Posted by: Tonypete
============

Part 2 of that plan is the opponent believing that you will use it.

red line Barry

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (EjQb2)

268 196 Don't they like things well crafted as long as they don't use demon electricity and gasoline?
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My favorite is the electric Amish stove made from pressboard with the fake flame
---
The electric stove isn't Amish. That's just somebody using the term for marketing.

Some Amish can use gas-powered or electric-powered equipment. It all depends on what the Bishop says. I've visited an Amish furniture factory that used electric motors to power their machines, but all the motors were outside the building and all the machines were belt-driven. Amish are often allowed to use telephones for business purposes. You'll often see the telephone mounted on a little pole outside the building, inside a little birdhouse-like cover.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (sWM8x)

269 I'm very sketchy on history in general, more sketchy on Far East powers. BUT supposedly part of the Nixon to China thang was to keep them against Russia.

But then China got very powerful, so now (the 50 pound heads say) we need the Russia/India/USA alliance (against the China/Iran/Pakistan grouping?). So it is crazy that Obama/Biden/? push so hard to help Iran, and that we are so China dependent, China owned (as in China owning Biden by bribery)

Trump was building the US/Japan/Aussie/India Quad thing ... while also doing the "NATO needs to quit depending on US for everything" push. Meanwhile DeepState thinks they will rule after America is defeated ... they got rid of Trump, they mostly own Trudeau, seem to run NZ and much of Australia ... tick tock, the Schwab ran up the clock.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (Cus5s)

270 Pony auction is online in August.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (b+v9B)

271 They're pretty much evil, our Feds... Top to bottom...

Posted by: setnaffa at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (YA5l0)

272
[...] Meanwhile, the Chinese Communist Party has been clear about its own intentions to develop and potentially use bioweapons. Colonel Guo Ji-wei and other PLA scientific researchers have promoted biological weapons and "bio-based" war in Chinese military journals. In "The Unnatural Origin of SARS and New Species of Man-Made Viruses as genetic Bioweapons," Chinese military scientists even suggest that World War III will be fought with biological weapons.

https://tinyurl.com/bd8rybd7
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 10, 2022 05:07 PM (UHVv4)

Nice to know that the fate of the world rests in the hands of power-mad lunatics.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (z5Vrg)

273 247 Bioweapons are easy to handle. Dig 24 inch deep hole, toss in 3 inches of thermite. Carefully place bioweapon container in thermite. Cover in 4 inches of additional thermite. Light thermite with Independence Day sparkler.
Posted by: ravenshrike at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (Sn8FP)

So, hypothetically speaking, would an EV battery burn hot enough to do the job?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (cupoy)

274 From Reuters:
EXCLUSIVE Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

https://bit.ly/3CAhECd

As long as the state approves of hate, Facebook and Instagram are OK with it too.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (VCz/u)

275 13 Or, even simpler: A pit and a lot of kerosene.

I thought that's how you got brain cancer
----
That reminded me:
Didn't Jennifer Griffin beat breast cancer early in her career at Fox when she was a foreign correspondent or something? I seem to remember she lost her hair.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 10, 2022 05:10 PM (qfLjt)

276 238 I'm not an expert, but I think deterrents only work if you make them public. There's not much to deter by the time the enemy is rolling up the highway to your capital and shelling it.

I guess that doesn't mean they couldn't have developed/stockpiled bio agents, but they aren't a deterrent any more.
Posted by: hogmartin

"Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday machine is lost if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell the world?"

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove at March 10, 2022 05:10 PM (76Ab6)

277 264 Reuters
@Reuters
EXCLUSIVE Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians http://reut.rs/3tKVeud
Posted by: redridinghood at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (NpAcC)

Designated hate object.

This is so sad, it is farcical.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:10 PM (QCwhW)

278 I'm guessing is Jen sucked cock, Tucker would have a problem with her

Posted by: REDACTED at March 10, 2022 05:10 PM (us2H3)

279 "The level-3 bio-safety lab ... will be used to study anthrax..."

Anthrax kills people. We've known that for quite a while.

WTF else do you need to know about anthrax? And why do you need to do it in Ukraine??

That's why they don't want us pulling on that covid lab-leak thread. There's a whole covert program they've been furiously trying to cover up.

Posted by: strange matter at March 10, 2022 05:10 PM (vcv8B)

280 red line Barry
Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (EjQb2)

"Don't call my bluff."

"Please."

Posted by: hogmartin at March 10, 2022 05:10 PM (P4LRL)

281 I want to be careful here and not look like I'm "on Putin's side" (I think we'd be better off with him dead) but I remember reading this article about a speech Putin gave:

"Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values. Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation."

Say what you will, but no US leader would DARE make a speech like that today, and remember we're supposed to be the good Christian, Godly nation and Russia the atheist, evil nation.
https://tinyurl.com/2p9d8aje

They probably look at us like we're the great Satan when you look at our toxic culture.

Posted by: Blago at March 10, 2022 05:10 PM (wXQdC)

282 @ChristinaPushaw

Gov. DeSantis on Disney: "How do they possibly explain lining their pockets with their relationship from the Communist Party of China? Because that's what they do, and they make a fortune, and they don't say a word about the really brutal practices at the hands of the CCP."

@ChristinaPushaw
@GovRonDeSantis: "Companies that have made a fortune catering to families should understand that parents don't want this injected into their kid's kindergarten classroom. Our policies will be based on the best interest of Florida citizens, not the musing of woke corporations."

Posted by: Revenant at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (LRhmV)

283 Meanwhile, that stupid cartoonist who thinks he's smarter than everyone, Scott Adams, is still trying to be an internet Edge Lord with his lame "hot takes."

Posted by: Proper Soothsayer at March 10, 2022 05:05 PM (dduId)

After seeing his current ex wife, I can't Basham

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (M+Lyo)

284 Somebody upstream said the Amish have bishops? Is that right?

Sounds a little too Apostolic to me. "Elders" I can understand, but "bishops" seems odd.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher

Yes, the Amish have Bishops. But, it's important to understand they, as a group, do not have an ecclesiastical structure similar to what we are familiar with in other Christian groups. Every local group is an entity unto itself.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (WnnCS)

285 Biological? A weapon you cannot control is madness.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (QCwhW)

They're great if you're trying to destroy civilization on the cheap.

If anything is still standing after the Biden regime is tossed into the flames, a lot of people at NIH and its "grant recipients" (subsidiaries) are going to need a meeting with the Reaper.

Posted by: trev006 at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (ttNI0)

286 I miss Catherine Herridge.
Does she break stories anymore now that she's at CBS?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (MmndN)

287 Fox took money to promote the vaccine, so who's going to believe another word of this horseshit out of them. Maybe if you like being lied to.

Your the best , EVAH!

Posted by: Mean Tweets at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (BOJAx)

288 Suppose you asked, "say, why did the US stop developing biological weapons?"

And then you learned the US signed the Biological Weapons Convention in 1975 that banned the development, production and stockpiling of biological agents or toxins that have no justification for peaceful purposes.

And that Ukraine is not a signatory....

Posted by: Well at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (JxTaU)

289 >>> 230 I don't find despising Putin difficult at all.

He crossed a sovereign border and is in the process of murdering people and raping women. Kremlin also admitted that it was a thermobaric bomb.

Despicable, he should be put down like mad dog.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:03 PM (EjQb2)

Says who?

...and "it" was a thermobaric bomb, where? over one of those non-existent until suddenly they are Rooski biolabs perhaps?

Why would you believe anything our news whores tell you?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (llON8)

290 >>EXCLUSIVE Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians http://reut.rs/3tKVeud

Translation: Minitru greenlights Two Minutes of Hate for Russia

Posted by: Lizzy at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (MmndN)

291 Biological? A weapon you cannot control is madness.
==
that's the argument for research. The idea that they can come up with a control or fix if one gets loose. If they know all there is knowable they can save us. Of course, they also are looking for a controllable weapon that won't backfire, aren't they? There's supposed to be a treaty that we signed. And so did Russia. We say we didn't break it because the research was done by others. We are subcontracting our way around a treaty. Nice 'eh.

Posted by: why would you not trust our government at March 10, 2022 05:12 PM (5OQFf)

292 The real reason Putin invaded Ukraine is first step in taking back all the border states.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:12 PM (EjQb2)

293 I fully expect Dr. Evil with his quote fingers to show up on Fox next. "Soviet Era" labs built with US DOD "billions" (puts pinky to mouth).

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 10, 2022 05:12 PM (6lMp2)

294 Take a look at the short article from the Smithsonian back in 2013 describing the rollout of bio labs throughout that region including Kazakhstan and Ukraine. The focus of these labs was described in a much different way back in 2013.

They're lying.

https://tinyurl.com/2p885w5k

Posted by: JackStraw at March 10, 2022 05:12 PM (ZLI7S)

295 Maybe Ukraine feels exposed, having been pressured to giving up its nukes, and has maintained the bioweapon labs to have, at least, a biological deterrent.

Deterrents only work if potential adversaries know about them.

Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2022 05:12 PM (kOpft)

296 It's boy who cried wolf syndrome. We've been lied to about everything for two years, so why should we believe them now?

Add another twenty. Probably much longer than that even.

Posted by: Brother Tim, #teamheadsonpikes at March 10, 2022 05:12 PM (OUMaO)

297 Didn't Jennifer Griffin beat breast cancer early in her career at Fox when she was a foreign correspondent or something? I seem to remember she lost her hair.
---
Yes.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 10, 2022 05:12 PM (sWM8x)

298 Putin could be trying to STEAL whatever we have in the biolabs. But then WTF were they there in the first place?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 05:12 PM (llON8)

299 You ever hear of "Captain Trips?" I wrote my magnum opus about it.

Posted by: Stephen King at March 10, 2022 05:12 PM (lKAqb)

300 I'm not an expert, but I think deterrents only work if you make them public.
Posted by: hogmartin

Wasn't this mentioned in Dr. Strangelove?
---------------------------
Mein Ace! I can valk! I can valk!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (UHVv4)

301 Russians are white. Therefore they can be hated.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (p5/6f)

302 The real reason Deep State engineered this confrontation and continue to push it all the way is a mystery.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (EjQb2)

303 Blaster - I don't think Ace thinks that. I think he is on the same spectrum I am on. When all this started, I was inclined to support Ukraine, but it was weak support.

But then I saw who was telling me I need to support Ukraine and it is people I know who lie to me. So I started looking into the facts and have found a lot of facts are not positive for our side.

So my opinions are in flux. I dislike Putin invading, but I'm finding it hard view us/Ukraine as having the moral high ground.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (wWYTv)

304 > Sounds a little too Apostolic to me. "Elders" I can understand, but "bishops" seems odd.

Mormons have Elders and Bishops.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (VCz/u)

305 Even if you take Griffin's recitation of Pentagon talking points at face value and believe it to be true......she says the program started in 2005? That's still *17 years ago*. They couldn't get this done in 17 years?

Pikers

Posted by: Love Canal - EPA superfund at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (786Ro)

306 I'm guessing is Jen sucked cock, Tucker would have a problem with her
Posted by: REDACTED

Eww. I'm guessing cocksucking was explicitly removed from her contract.

Posted by: strange matter at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (vcv8B)

307 EXCLUSIVE Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians http://reut.rs/3tKVeud
Posted by: redridinghood at March 10, 2022 05:08 PM (NpAcC)

Yes, well that is how it works if you're on the outs with the Zuckerberg tribe. They have no qualms about counselling genocide against any of their enemies.

Posted by: trev006 at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (ttNI0)

308 But then China got very powerful, so now (the 50 pound heads say) we need the Russia/India/USA alliance (against the China/Iran/Pakistan grouping?). So it is crazy that Obama/Biden/? push so hard to help Iran, and that we are so China dependent, China owned (as in China owning Biden by bribery)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 10, 2022 05:09 PM (Cus5s)

Yeah triangulating against China would be the smart move.

In the crude 3-player model, we're the biggest player, China is second, and Russia is third. Russia is threatened by both parties, but luckily in our case, they are actually more threatened by China than us. If Russia simply does not help China, China loses to us. Maintaining the two-weaker parties alliances is actually harder than being the solo player.

Though when you stretch out the model for a longer time horizon, this is mooted by US decline.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (z5Vrg)

309 Deplorables told Ukraine to drink bleach!

Posted by: Jenn Pssaki at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (63Dwl)

310 Early in her career?

Nope. Just within the last five years, or so it seems to me.

Posted by: Stephen King at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (lKAqb)

311
Every day the dismantlers of these facilities arrive for work via short busses.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (pNxlR)

312 I'm guessing is Jen sucked cock, Tucker would have a problem with her
Posted by: REDACTED at March 10, 2022 05:10 PM (us2H3)

-----

That would have to be part of 690 to incorporate "circle back".

Posted by: Undocumented at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (Y08Vx)

313 >>> 303 Blaster - I don't think Ace thinks that. I think he is on the same spectrum I am on. When all this started, I was inclined to support Ukraine, but it was weak support.

But then I saw who was telling me I need to support Ukraine and it is people I know who lie to me. So I started looking into the facts and have found a lot of facts are not positive for our side.

So my opinions are in flux. I dislike Putin invading, but I'm finding it hard view us/Ukraine as having the moral high ground.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (wWYTv)

Very much this.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 05:14 PM (llON8)

314 Off "The Stand" author sock.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 10, 2022 05:14 PM (lKAqb)

315 It's quite obvious that there are many ,many American questionable covert operations in Ukraine that they won't tell and want to hide from the American public. There is no other reason why they would go all in and more on their rhetoric and pushing us to war with Russia.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 10, 2022 05:14 PM (XntMs)

316 All the "Get vaccinated" commercials have stopped.

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 05:14 PM (vrz2I)

317 I feel compelled to say that hazardous waste incineration is a common business in most of the world for all kinds of bio-waste and services are there for collection, transport, and burning. They even have mobile units if the stuff is too dangerous to tranport.

Not normally for the really bad stuff like weaponized anthrax, or smallpox, but I am sure it can be done easily. They have several stages of burning, with temperature monitored to make sure it is all destroyed, filtered, and destroyed again.

The hard part is disassembly of munitions, but I don't think we are talking about that.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 10, 2022 05:14 PM (76Ab6)

318 Designated hate object.

This is so sad, it is farcical.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:10 PM (QCwhW)

They've just GOT to have an Emmanuel Goldstein. Can't do without one.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:14 PM (II3Gr)

319 270 Pony auction is online in August.

when's the dog-faced soldier auction?

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at March 10, 2022 05:14 PM (sGtp+)

320 [From the update on the 2010 BioLab in Ukraine story:] ,"Q fever"?

--------

RUFKM?

Further proof that we ARE living in a Matrix-like simulation ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 10, 2022 05:15 PM (d82lp)

321 I am half expecting in a couple of days for Zelensky to give Putin everything he wants, the war to drop out of the news, and the globocorps all try to kiss up to Putin again before the fall.

But...not before Biden gets a Ukraine rebuilding bill passed that gives him 10%.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2022 04:56 PM (ESjRY)

yep. we'll see if Vlad is willing to play the game if he gets his 2 little "independent" regions and full recognition of control of Crimea. It's still fascinating to me the effort that went into dirtying up Trump. McCain sending him Manafort and Davis after kneecapping Lewandowski might have been the first big move? Manafort was dirty up to his eyeballs in Ukraine, along with the Podestas and everybody else. I guess they couldn't hope to sneak in a Podesta, so they deployed the best option they had.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at March 10, 2022 05:15 PM (fpzDt)

322 I seem to remember she lost her hair.
---
Yes.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist
==========

And her mind. She did a good job reporting from Israel.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:15 PM (EjQb2)

323 From Reuters:
EXCLUSIVE Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians
===

They are gonna work themselves up into quite a frenzy. Hysteria even. Sad.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2022 05:15 PM (SjcEJ)

324 LOL

Smolliet's defense has invoked Ukraine, racism, BLM, and the Holocaust in trying to mitigate his sentence.

I shit you not.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 10, 2022 05:15 PM (kxVDk)

325 "But then I saw who was telling me I need to support Ukraine and it is people I know who lie to me."

Stupid GA Legislature today made a proclamation today
"We are all Ukrainian"

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (vrz2I)

326 Here is a link to the contracting agreement to build a biolab in the Kharkiv region.

https://tinyurl.com/5apz9zwt

Dated 2012. Yeah, cleanup from Soviet era labs.

I have a bunch more of these, for labs all over Ukraine.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (vcOmj)

327
The real reason Deep State engineered this confrontation and continue to push it all the way is a mystery.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (EjQb2)

Pretty straightforward, I think. Years of failed diplomatic ops against Russia finally culminated in a big, bad failure that led to yet another region of the globe in flames because of our government's manifest incompetence and cynical corruption in all things and at all times.

And rather than back off and admit they were WRONG (not possible, not acceptable), they're doubling down on dumb. And likely praying that they can drag our country through another mire of blood and shit and humiliation, for fun and profit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (SKVme)

328 So my opinions are in flux. I dislike Putin invading, but I'm finding it hard view us/Ukraine as having the moral high ground.
=====> Dave in Fla

I mean, they are kind of almost Ruskies.

They don't have the moral high ground, but I don't blame them for falling into Western and Biden corruption. They wanted protection and thought they were doing what had to be done to have an ally. That shit is all on us.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (76Ab6)

329 Dick Luger was the perfect name for an American James Bond, but then that halfwit Deep State senator sullied the name.

Posted by: Wally at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (S8gsF)

330 He crossed a border so he should be put down like a dog.

Ok then Obama and Bush the lesser both need to be as well. They crossed several sovereign borders did they not? Oh oh oh but those were good and just wars. I forgot.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (p5/6f)

331 Despicable, he should be put down like mad dog.

Posted by: Braenyard

So hop in the next plane out, and go do it, O brave patriot. Don't expect your neighbors' kids to go die for it.

Posted by: Hands at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (786Ro)

332 More govt lies:

The catastrophic, utterly pathetic withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The complete mess that is our southern border - allowing and encouraging millions to enter illegally - then settling them around the country.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (0W3z4)

333 On a moral level our own elites and leadership aren't far from those that run China and Russia. The primary difference is one of means and institutional resistance.

Putin is simply Hillary Clinton without the checks the American Founding Fathers put in place, which is why I laugh whenever I hear about the assassinations that Putin has carried out.

Yeah he's a monster but I'd bet his body count is quite a bit lower than Frau Gruppencankles and her party.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (I+ZWa)

334 Eww. I'm guessing cocksucking was explicitly removed from her contract.
==
true, but the part about me resting my balls on her chin for 10 minutes every day at lunch is totally still in there. Its up to her how she does that. I'm gonna manage either way.

Posted by: Fox News Management at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (UbHrE)

335 All the "Get vaccinated" commercials have stopped.
Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 05:14 PM (vrz2I)

Bass solo.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (P4LRL)

336 I'm amused people think control of a biological is desired. There are some who have the antidote. They never expect to be Charlton Heston.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 10, 2022 05:16 PM (oWBc3)

337 Biolabs? Chemical weapons? meh. A couple of thermobaric bombs, move on to the next site.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 10, 2022 05:17 PM (oWZwa)

338 People who had never heard of "thermobaric" bombs before five minutes ago are now outraged by the existence of thermobaric bombs.

Question: are there thermobaric bombs in the US inventory? Have we ever used them?

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:17 PM (9otr5)

339 You'd think it would be the Ukrainians saying this. Seeing how they have so much love for the Russians they want to keep this quiet?

Yeah I have a feeling that they knew Russia had found some and that's why she mentioned it when questioned in the Senate by Dondi.

Then they both realized they effed up and shut up.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 10, 2022 05:17 PM (9RkRx)

340 But then I saw who was telling me I need to support Ukraine and it is people I know who lie to me. So I started looking into the facts and have found a lot of facts are not positive for our side.

So my opinions are in flux. I dislike Putin invading, but I'm finding it hard view us/Ukraine as having the moral high ground.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (wWYTv)

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Here's where I land on this - I have no love for Vladimir Putin. I don't like his country. However, I have a strong dislike for feeling like I'm being manipulated, and the sudden and overwhelming barrage of "YOU MUST UNRESERVEDLY SUPPORT UKRAINE OR YOU'RE A PUTIN STOOGE!" is very obviously planned manipulation.

Posted by: radar at March 10, 2022 05:17 PM (RMtE9)

341 LOL

Smolliet's defense has invoked Ukraine, racism, BLM, and the Holocaust in trying to mitigate his sentence.

I shit you not.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 10, 2022 05:15 PM (kxVDk)

Will be interesting what the Judge has to say

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (M+Lyo)

342 Our policies will be based on the best interest of Florida citizens, not the musing of woke corporations."
Posted by: Revenant at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (LRhmV)

Apparently, Disney grew up from that sweet loveable kiddie ride we all remember, to a sick twisted drunken shit-faced Uncle Groomersickenfucker who you wouldn't leave your dog with, much less your toddler.

Posted by: Boswell at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (5iUNf)

343 If you go back 700 years Russia has invaded and has been invaded at least 50 times. It is what they do. It is what every Euro country does.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (p5/6f)

344 Pony auction?

*****

The whole point of having a pony is to have somebody give you thee pony. It's no fun just up and buying one for yourself. That smacks of cheating to me.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (m45I2)

345 Soros was one of the first to advocate to defend Ukraine from the dirty Russians. I will never be on the side of Soros by default. The best I can do is be neutral.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (XntMs)

346 Yes, the Amish have Bishops. But, it's important to understand they, as a group, do not have an ecclesiastical structure similar to what we are familiar with in other Christian groups. Every local group is an entity unto itself.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (WnnCS)

That sounds more decentralized that Islam.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (y7DUB)

347 Here's where I land on this - I have no love for Vladimir Putin. I don't like his country. However, I have a strong dislike for feeling like I'm being manipulated, and the sudden and overwhelming barrage of "YOU MUST UNRESERVEDLY SUPPORT UKRAINE OR YOU'RE A PUTIN STOOGE!" is very obviously planned manipulation.
Posted by: radar at March 10, 2022 05:17 PM (RMtE9)

Pretty much this.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (II3Gr)

348 Harris herself is a Bio-weapon with all Sexually Transmitted Disease she carries inside......

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (xj2NC)

349 @292, thanks Dr. Strangelove. Give it a fucking rest.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (oWBc3)

350 They've just GOT to have an Emmanuel Goldstein. Can't do without one.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:14 PM (II3Gr)

I caught just a bit (like 3 minutes) of the end of some show on CBS last night. The brave members of whatever government bureau the show is about were trying to stop an online 'hate' monger. Some guy killed someone else because he was radicalized in these chat rooms and by this other guy's speeches. The 'villain' even said 'I did not kill anybody, xxxx did!' and the brave government employee said 'Oh but you did! You pushed him with your rhetoric online and in these chat rooms! There's no grand conspiracy, but if you keep pushing your hate, I am going to come after you!'

*sigh* Three minutes of a show and I got the gist. I think it is an hour long show. FFS.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (QCwhW)

351 People who had never heard of "thermobaric" bombs before five minutes ago are now outraged by the existence of thermobaric bombs.

Question: are there thermobaric bombs in the US inventory? Have we ever used them?
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These are the MOABs from the gulf war/afgan era. Old news.

Posted by: really? at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (Ccvzh)

352 The runaway clown train is getting closer to that cliff.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (Xrfse)

353 >>>People who had never heard of "thermobaric" bombs before five minutes ago are now outraged by the existence of thermobaric bombs.

The Soviets also have a bomb which apparently sucks the oxygen out of the detonation site. Supposed to destroy internal organs.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (VWp7G)

354 I never listen to Sean Hannity and now I know why, what a complete douchebag and deep state water carrier. This is the guy that leads "conservatism?"

This ass is nothing but all party line. He is talking to some Ukrainian on the ground in Keyev and he telling him every propaganda point Hannity brings up is BS.

WASF.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (iDcra)

355 Putin 1, GWB 0.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (44ww/)

356 Question: are there thermobaric bombs in the US inventory? Have we ever used them?
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:17 PM (9otr5)

Yes and yes.

Pretty sure there's a SMAW warhead that uses that effect.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (P4LRL)

357 My dad likes watching Hannity, so I caught one of his shows at the beginning of last week. The idiot was openly calling for Putin's assassination for an hour. It was Hannity, so he just repeated the same idiotic, evil crap about 10 times to different "guests." Luckily my dad reads the Epoch Times and they did some stories about Ukraine and George Soros, so he wasn't thrilled. Hopefully he will stop watching now.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (fpzDt)

358 And likely praying that they can drag our country through another mire of blood and shit and humiliation, for fun and profit.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
============

That doesn't happen in a nuclear war.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (EjQb2)

359 I'm not watching the Jussie circus, but when his lawyer cites the Holocaust, was it clear that Jussie opposed it? Cuz based on his politics, he seems like a guy who would approve of it.

Posted by: Wally at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (S8gsF)

360 Question: are there thermobaric bombs in the US inventory? Have we ever used them?
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:17 PM (9otr5)

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WikiP - "thermobaric weapon"

Posted by: Undocumented at March 10, 2022 05:20 PM (Y08Vx)

361 Question: are there thermobaric bombs in the US inventory? Have we ever used them?
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Yes, we used them in Afghanistan and probably elsewhere.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 10, 2022 05:20 PM (sWM8x)

362 Kazakhstan one of Russia's friends in the great fertilizer shutdown...

zerohedge @zerohedge
Russia To Ban Fertilizer Exports To 'Not Friendly' Countries; China Warns US Against Retaliation

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/
1501951069693358080

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 10, 2022 05:20 PM (UHVv4)

363 Putinists were falling all over themselves about the docs that were supposedly scrubbed from the Embassy website were the "smoking gun" about biowar labs that the Ukrainians were running to poison all mankind. The docs didn't support such a conclusion.

The Bioprepwatch article form 2010 explains the whole thing. Another of Putin's stories evaporates in the morning sun. Nulands "admissions" weren't.

Posted by: Quartermaster at March 10, 2022 05:20 PM (J0tKB)

364 Apparently Juicy's grandmother is a 92 yo Jewish woman.
She spewed sjw stuff directly to the camera, and invoked the persecution of her people

Now, a member of the Rainbow Coalition is talking (Jesse Jackson's group).

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 10, 2022 05:20 PM (kxVDk)

365 They say its Russian Disinformation and I'm starting to believe them.

Only it's because I'm thinking we have more Russians or Russian Syncophants in DC who want a war with the US than there are in Moscow.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (9RkRx)

366 Why the fk are the US taxpayers paying for bio-lab in foreign countries anyway?

Posted by: Skip at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (2JoB8)

367 NYPost reports inflation now costs the average US household an extra $296 per month.

That's an extra $3550 a year, if inflation stops today, and it won't.

https://bit.ly/3sZjaL1

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (VCz/u)

368 346 Yes, the Amish have Bishops. But, it's important to understand they, as a group, do not have an ecclesiastical structure similar to what we are familiar with in other Christian groups. Every local group is an entity unto itself.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2022 05:11 PM (WnnCS)

That sounds more decentralized that Islam.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (y7DUB)

The Bishop (thwacking down crozier): "Okay, Devious, don't move!"

Mr. Devious: "Duh Bishop!!"

*Cue Peter Gunn theme*

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (dfRN6)

369 The whole point of having a pony is to have somebody give you thee pony. It's no fun just up and buying one for yourself. That smacks of cheating to me.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2022 05:18 PM (m45I2)

Just like Halloween candy

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (XvPQV)

370 >>> 354 I never listen to Sean Hannity and now I know why, what a complete douchebag and deep state water carrier. This is the guy that leads "conservatism?"

This ass is nothing but all party line. He is talking to some Ukrainian on the ground in Keyev and he telling him every propaganda point Hannity brings up is BS.

WASF.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (iDcra)

KEEV
KEEV
KEEV!!!!!!

Posted by: This... is XiNN at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (llON8)

371 The Soviets also have a bomb which apparently sucks the oxygen out of the detonation site. Supposed to destroy internal organs.
==
Just the same fuel air bomb we have and you saw used in Afghanistan on the cave complex. MOAB look it up.

Posted by: really? at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (Ccvzh)

372 The Soviets also have a bomb which apparently sucks the oxygen out of the detonation site. Supposed to destroy internal organs.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 10, 2022 05:19 PM (VWp7G)

Fuel Air bombs? They essentially do that. MOAB is one. Daisy Cutter is another from Vietnam era, iirc.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (QCwhW)

373 The whole point of having a pony is to have somebody give you thee pony.

Tell that to grampa. Cheap bastid. Sigh.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (Xrfse)

374 I think the big deal about Putin using the thermobaric bomb is that he did it a Chernobyl.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (EjQb2)

375 The Jussie Smolett sentencing hearing is being broadcast live on YouTube. So far it has been a full court press to paint the unrepentant and arrogant lil' bitch as a saint because he wept over the water pipes in Flint once. Plus white supremacy and racism. Besides, who was really harmed by his BS antics but Jussie? After all he can't get a job anymore because of his jackassery.

This asshole is lucky he didn't cause a full on peaceful protest with Molotov cocktails and 9mms for claiming and then lying non stop that he was attacked and nearly lynched by MAGA followers as we all know are the modern version of the KKK.

Posted by: LostInSpace at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (PVI4b)

376 What the next story from Psaki? Thermobaric weapons are causing the price of gas to spike ???

Let's face it....... They SUCK SO BAD THEY MAKE LINDA LOVELACE AN AMATEUR !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (xj2NC)

377 Didn't we clean out Sadam's bio-weapons labs and stockpile while at the same time fighting a war?

Did that take 30 years?

Posted by: 29Victor at March 10, 2022 04:52 PM (BJKQV)

No that got wrapped up over the opening weekend of the London Olympics. Which everyone seems to have forgotten.

Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (kOpft)

378
Smolliet's defense has invoked Ukraine, racism, BLM, and the Holocaust in trying to mitigate his sentence.

I shit you not.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

Add "Holocaust" to that list.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (oYLWM)

379 Yes, well that is how it works if you're on the outs with the Zuckerberg tribe. They have no qualms about counselling genocide against any of their enemies.

Posted by: trev006 at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (ttNI0)

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Our speech is genocide.
Their genocide is speech.

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 10, 2022 05:23 PM (d82lp)

380
Oops.

I can't read!

Disregard my last 'ment.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 10, 2022 05:23 PM (oYLWM)

381 I just can't really see how what Russia is doing is really all that different than how the US addressed Cuba. We invaded it, tried to overthrow their leaders, and make life miserable for them (and for good reason)

Russia knew Ukraine was the West's staging area right at their border, they saw Biden's weakness in Afghanistan ,and took advantage of their opportunity before a NATO base was moved in. Turns out their intel was spot and and they may have had a version of WMDs.

Posted by: Blago at March 10, 2022 05:23 PM (wXQdC)

382 303 Blaster - I don't think Ace thinks that. I think he is on the same spectrum I am on. When all this started, I was inclined to support Ukraine, but it was weak support.
.....
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (wWYTv)

When I disputed his blind promotion of whatever anti-Russian/Putin propaganda of the moment he just couldn't get off the "you love Putin" defense.

So you may not believe it, but I know what he told me.

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:23 PM (9otr5)

383 Quartermaster = Fake Ranger Vindadunkin. Nuland admited we had labs there - we saw it asshole.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (oWBc3)

384 Nobody believed Smollet and they were not going to riot for his fagass.

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (vrz2I)

385 Posted by: Quartermaster at March 10, 2022 05:20 PM (J0tKB)

Did Saddam have WMD?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (XntMs)

386 I'm amused people think control of a biological is desired. There are some who have the antidote. They never expect to be Charlton Heston.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem

And some people just want to watch the world burn.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (vcOmj)

387 Smolliet's defense has invoked Ukraine, racism, BLM, and the Holocaust in trying to mitigate his sentence.

I shit you not.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

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They left out the slaughter of the Native Americans and the buffalo?

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (d82lp)

388 Russia To Ban Fertilizer Exports To 'Not Friendly' Countries; China Warns US Against Retaliation

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 10, 2022 05:20 PM (UHVv4)

lol. Your move, war hawk China bitches.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (SH2Zi)

389 That's an extra $3550 a year, if inflation stops today, and it won't.

https://bit.ly/3sZjaL1
Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (VCz/u)
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That and - How's you retirement plan or portfolio doing?

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (EjQb2)

390 Yes there are US bioweapons labs in Ukraine here is a cunt Nuland admitting to it.

https://tinyurl.com/5n6bm6ah

Yes deep staters it is from RT but IT IS VIDEO.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (iDcra)

391 No war for Mail Order Brides.

Posted by: wth at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (v0R5T)

392 The Bishop (thwacking down crozier): "Okay, Devious, don't move!"

Mr. Devious: "Duh Bishop!!"

*Cue Peter Gunn theme*
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (dfRN6)

I almost made the same Monty Python joke myself.
Props.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (XvPQV)

393 > People who had never heard of "thermobaric" bombs before five minutes ago are now outraged by the existence of thermobaric bombs.

I don't understand. There are a lot of weapons systems that people would be outraged to know about. Therefore, what? They should be up to date on knowing about all the weapons systems out there and fully outraged about the outrageous ones? They shouldn't be outraged when they find out about the outrageous systems they didn't know about?

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (VCz/u)

394 >>>Why the fk are the US taxpayers paying for bio-lab in foreign countries anyway?
Posted by: Skip

because we should pay for the diseases they are going to kill us with.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (VWp7G)

395 Holocaust in trying to mitigate his sentence.
I shit you not.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

Add "Holocaust" to that list.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (oYLWM)

Umm, I did. LOL

I am watching on tube 'nate the lawyer'

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (kxVDk)

396 Thermobaric weapons suck up oxygen - climate crime! MSM tomorrow.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (oWBc3)

397 Speaking of "KEEV".....why aren't all the media clowns also saying Moskva? Because they're the bad guys? Why then haven't they started calling Warsaw Varshava, or Prague Praha?

Posted by: radar at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (RMtE9)

398 I don't like his country.
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I actually like Russia quite a bit. I've been to St. Petersburg a couple times and really enjoyed it. Even the old communist era monuments are very impressive.

The people are very rude to each other, but were nice to me, know right from the start that I'm American. Had a very interesting conversation with a guy about Crimea and got quite the history lesson.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (ebOhT)

399 374 I think the big deal about Putin using the thermobaric bomb is that he did it a Chernobyl.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (EjQb2)[/]

Wow. Wow wow wow. That's not even...not even close to true.

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (9otr5)

400 "So she's claiming that the US has been trying, but failing, to "clean out" these laboratories for over 30 years."

To be fair, how long has it taken the US to destroy our own stockpile of chemical weapons? We've been working on it for decades and still aren't done. Per the Chemical Weapons Convention (1997) we were supposed to be done by 2012, but best estimate is 2023 (Pueblo Chemical Depot).

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (VGRuw)

401 When I disputed his blind promotion of whatever anti-Russian/Putin propaganda of the moment he just couldn't get off the "you love Putin" defense.

So you may not believe it, but I know what he told me.
==
Blaster,

When a deeply conservative republican stares longingly into the eyes of Vladimir Pootin, and sees his very soul. There is no shame in speaking of the love you found there.

Posted by: George W. Bush at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (NIhlo)

402 Russia To Ban Fertilizer Exports To 'Not Friendly' Countries; China Warns US Against Retaliation

The joke's on them- we get all we need from Congress!

Posted by: t-bird at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (UMXod)

403 They left out the slaughter of the Native Americans and the buffalo?
Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (d82lp)

Not done yet.
Now the Innocence Project is making a statement.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (kxVDk)

404 I almost made the same Monty Python joke myself.
Props.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (XvPQV)

It's kinda like a drinking problem. Can't help myself.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (dfRN6)

405 390 Yes there are US bioweapons labs in Ukraine here is a cunt Nuland admitting to it.

https://tinyurl.com/5n6bm6ah

Yes deep staters it is from RT but IT IS VIDEO.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (iDcra)

Fake. Just like adverse COVID19 jab reactions.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (II3Gr)

406 What you definitely hear on the evening news about the World Economic Forum, in their own words.

https://tinyurl.com/mybjse59

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at March 10, 2022 05:27 PM (ZEHVO)

407 People who had never heard of "thermobaric" bombs before five minutes ago are now outraged by the existence of thermobaric bombs.

Question: are there thermobaric bombs in the US inventory? Have we ever used them?

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:17 PM (9otr5)

US Military was bragging 15-20 years ago about how effective they are at sucking the air out of caves.

Again, history began this morning and no one seems to remember.

Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2022 05:27 PM (kOpft)

408 >Posted by: Quartermaster at March 10, 2022 05:20 PM (J0tKB)

Jen Griffin, is that you?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at March 10, 2022 05:27 PM (L9uv7)

409 The Agency has just under two dozen offices and facilities scattered around the world to keep an eye out for would-be biological weapons, including in Georgia (the Caucasus rather than deep South one), Armenia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan and Russia. Before the USSR broke up, the Soviets were known to have weaponized plague and were tinkering with other potential biological weapons, though what became of those deadly cultures remains unclear. As such, biological weapons expert Raymond Zilinskas told NatGeo, "There's a real biosecurity threat in countries of the former Soviet Union, and the Russian government is remarkably uncooperative in this area."

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 10, 2022 05:27 PM (UHVv4)

410 Just the same fuel air bomb we have and you saw used in Afghanistan on the cave complex. MOAB look it up.
Posted by: really?

I think we used fuel-air bombs to clear LZ's in Viet Nam. They dropped them out of the back hatch of a C-130, with a parachute.
They were BIG.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at March 10, 2022 05:27 PM (vcOmj)

411 316 All the "Get vaccinated" commercials have stopped.

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 05:14 PM (vrz2I)

+++

Oh yeah, wow. I don't watch tv so I thought it was still an ongoing thing.

A couple weeks ago I tried to pay my internet bill on line as usual but they were having computer glitches or something and I gave up after several attempts. So I tried calling to pay over the phone and the recording went into this long and detailed spiel going over every single point about Covid - symptoms, getting the vax, staying home if ill, wearing masks and practicing social distancing. This went on for a good 3 minutes - then they hung up on me.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 10, 2022 05:27 PM (0W3z4)

412 Question: are there thermobaric bombs in the US inventory? Have we ever used them?
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Yes, we used them in Afghanistan and probably elsewhere.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis

Yes. Look up SMAW. Or don't. It's probably on a list of things that get you on a list. Further MOABs are like 10x fucking bigger in effect.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2022 05:27 PM (zWpOF)

413 I'm with TJM, I don't care who wins this, I'm just rooting for an early end. And I don't regret the egg that our corrupt leaders will get on their face as their lies and corruprion are exposed.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (wWYTv)

I'd say that I would greatly enjoy seeing Putin lose - sic semper tyrannis and all that - but I firmly believe that not one drop of American blood should be shed over there. We've had more than our share of Land Wars in Asia over the last few decades.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 10, 2022 05:27 PM (trdmm)

414 I just can't even with all this misinformation.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 10, 2022 05:28 PM (II3Gr)

415 Blaster,

When a deeply conservative republican stares longingly into the eyes of Vladimir Pootin, and sees his very soul. There is no shame in speaking of the love you found there.
Posted by: George W. Bush at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (NIhlo)

I knew George's love of Pooty-Pooty couldn't be hidden forever.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 10, 2022 05:28 PM (XvPQV)

416 Bombs that kill with a shock wave and incineration are bad?

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 05:28 PM (vrz2I)

417 The labs are there and almost certainly easily convertible to weapon production capability. Ukraine had nukes. They're a former Soviet dominion and now a NATO proxy on Russia's doorstep. Are they the primary reason Putin invaded? Probably not but it's certainly a side benefit to get rid of them. That's not loving Putin. It's computing national interest if any of us were in his shoes.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 10, 2022 05:28 PM (I+ZWa)

418 375
This asshole is lucky he didn't cause a full on peaceful protest with Molotov cocktails and 9mms for claiming and then lying non stop that he was attacked and nearly lynched by MAGA followers as we all know are the modern version of the KKK.
Posted by: LostInSpace at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (PVI4b)

Back when VP Kneepads was still just Senator Kneepads, both she and Senator Booker from NJ were all about getting air time on every news show to defend Jussie Small-A. Funny how neither one every issued an apology to the American people they smeared with accusations of racism.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at March 10, 2022 05:28 PM (l0Cy4)

419 "So she's claiming that the US has been trying, but failing, to "clean out" these laboratories for over 30 years."

Well, with 366 laboratories world-wide, and counting, it could take a while.

Posted by: t-bird at March 10, 2022 05:28 PM (KfC1e)

420 Fuel Air bombs? They essentially do that. MOAB is one. Daisy Cutter is another from Vietnam era, iirc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2022 05:21 PM (QCwhW)

Yes and no. Yes thermobaric is a fuel-air explosive. Neither MOAB nor Daisycutter are one.

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:28 PM (9otr5)

421 Russia knew Ukraine was the West's staging area right at their border, they saw Biden's weakness in Afghanistan ,and took advantage of their opportunity before a NATO base was moved in. Turns out their intel was spot and and they may have had a version of WMDs.
Posted by: Blago at March 10, 2022 05:23 PM (wXQdC)
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Except the same thing was going on in Kazakhstan and Putin shut it down and ran the CIA out without firing a shot.

Something else is driving this.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:29 PM (EjQb2)

422
Russia won't be nuking the US. I'd call it 99-1 against them even nuking Ukraine. But if they did nuke Ukraine, I still don't care.

I don't care about Ukraine. Nothing can make me care about Ukraine. I wish them the best, but they brought this on themselves, with the help of our disgusting government.

I have no use for any of the people involved in this mess.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 10, 2022 05:29 PM (SKVme)

423 They shouldn't be outraged when they find out about the outrageous systems they didn't know about?

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (VCz/u)

It was directed at a particular gung-ho let's send YOUR kids to personally battle putin commenter who cites thermobarics as some sort of casus belli. We have them. We've used them. BFD.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 10, 2022 05:29 PM (SH2Zi)

424 To be fair, how long has it taken the US to destroy our own stockpile of chemical weapons? We've been working on it for decades and still aren't done. Per the Chemical Weapons Convention (1997) we were supposed to be done by 2012, but best estimate is 2023 (Pueblo Chemical Depot).
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (VGRuw)

By government standards, this isn't bad.

Posted by: Wally at March 10, 2022 05:29 PM (S8gsF)

425 People who had never heard of "thermobaric" bombs before five minutes ago are now outraged by the existence of thermobaric bombs.

Question: are there thermobaric bombs in the US inventory? Have we ever used them?

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:17 PM (9otr5)

US Military was bragging 15-20 years ago about how effective they are at sucking the air out of caves.

Again, history began this morning and no one seems to remember.
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I mean seriously. There was video of these massive bombs being dropped parachute, spraying out a fog of gasoline and then a GIANT explosion. And much giddiness about what was going to happen the the taliban. Literally EVERYONE knows about this.

Posted by: serious you guys, this is embarrassing. at March 10, 2022 05:29 PM (Ccvzh)

426 >>>>Smolliet's defense has invoked Ukraine, racism, BLM, and the Holocaust in trying to mitigate his sentence.

I shit you not.

...

lol. lolololol.

I forget what it was, but one of the sitcoms i rewatch regularly had a character attempt to explain his way out of getting caught doing a bad thing by starting off, "I don't think any of us have ever really gotten over 9/11..."

Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 10, 2022 05:29 PM (0G13K)

427 Thermobaric or Vacuum bombs are the Russian name for the fuel-air bombs we first used in the Vietnam war.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at March 10, 2022 05:29 PM (ZEHVO)

428 >>So my opinions are in flux. I dislike Putin invading, but I'm finding it hard view us/Ukraine as having the moral high ground.

Call me cynical, but I am guessing the same DC'ers who've been running aid money through Ukraine right back into their pockets (Huter's Rosemont Seneca, Clinton Foundation, Soros, Tag Romney, Paul Pelosi, McCain Foundation, etc.) will be first in line for their piece of the $14 billion in aid Congress just approved.

It's a globalist op, and I feel bad for the Ukraine people who don't get to decide on their leaders and will never see any of the aid money that has/will be sent from the US allegedly on their behalf.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 10, 2022 05:30 PM (MmndN)

429 I see no good guys in this one. Zelensky randomly bombing and shooting Russian ethnics, Putin indiscriminately bombing and invading and the US starting the whole thing by funding a color revolution to kick out their corrupt puppet for our corrupt puppet so that our politicos could get their dirty money.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 10, 2022 05:30 PM (6lMp2)

430 It's a pretty easy concept - if there's a weapon in the world being used, anywhere, the US has one, too.

We're the pre-Iron Man Tony Stark of the world...in all forms of weapons.

Posted by: Nova local at March 10, 2022 05:30 PM (exHjb)

431 I actually like Russia quite a bit.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (ebOhT)

I've never been there, so a more accurate statement would be "I don't like the Russians I've met". Aside from our school custodian way back when in high school, who was one of the Russian Jews who managed to escape the USSR in the '80s and was a wonderful man, the Russians I've met (admittedly a small group) were exceedingly obnoxious and boorish.

Posted by: radar at March 10, 2022 05:30 PM (RMtE9)

432 Posted by: Bacon Jeff at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (VGRu

That's the actual weapons. Not a lab.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 10, 2022 05:30 PM (XntMs)

433 I think the big deal about Putin using the thermobaric bomb is that he did it a Chernobyl.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (EjQb2)[/]

Wow. Wow wow wow. That's not even...not even close to true.

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (9otr5)

Shhh, he's on a roll.

Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2022 05:31 PM (kOpft)

434 > US Military was bragging 15-20 years ago about how effective they are at sucking the air out of caves.

US weapons designers came up with all sorts of fun goodies to handle caves. I remember one device that was specifically designed to bounce along the cave floor and not detonate until a certain number of bounces or a certain distance from first bounce was reached.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:31 PM (VCz/u)

435 "So she's claiming that the US has been trying, but failing, to "clean out" these laboratories for over 30 years."

Well, with 366 laboratories world-wide, and counting, it could take a while.
Posted by: t-bird

Stop paying people. Watch how quick they flee.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2022 05:31 PM (Ecl8U)

436 Still the dumbest of conspiracy theories. These labs weren't secret.

"Ah, but that's what's just what THEY would do, isn't it? Hide them in plain sight! THEY are so cunning. Just wait (#two weeks) for Putin to provide the goods and you'll see the bioweapons being developed in Ukraine were probably going to turn everyone homo! Thank Putin for saving us from the Globohomos!"

Posted by: Match Checksout at March 10, 2022 05:31 PM (dYe5S)

437 >>> "So she's claiming that the US has been trying, but failing, to "clean out" these laboratories for over 30 years."

A few bunker busters would have done the trick in a week.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 10, 2022 05:32 PM (VWp7G)

438 Something else is driving this.
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I honestly think it was the Ukrainian artillery shelling in the two provinces that changed the strategy. But I'm no expert so YMMV.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 05:32 PM (QS/FC)

439 MOAB is high explosive (18,700 lb - comp H-6) weapon.

Posted by: Undocumented at March 10, 2022 05:32 PM (Y08Vx)

440 > It was directed at a particular gung-ho let's send YOUR kids to personally battle putin commenter who cites thermobarics as some sort of casus belli. We have them. We've used them. BFD.

Oh, that I agree with. It's not some verboten super weapon.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:32 PM (VCz/u)

441 >>354 I never listen to Sean Hannity and now I know why, what a complete douchebag and deep state water carrier. This is the guy that leads "conservatism?"

I stopped listening and watching that arrogant dumb douchebag in 2015. I'm amazed that even the CPAC seal clappers are still watching him. (No I'm not)

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 10, 2022 05:32 PM (GYllL)

442 82 The dumb thing about bioweapons is there's not really any scenario in which it makes sense to use them. That also tends to make them ineffective as a deterrent.
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Covid-19 did a pretty good job worldwide.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 10, 2022 05:32 PM (qfLjt)

443 Can we get the Che shooter, who died today, the Medal of Freedom? Just sayin.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 10, 2022 05:33 PM (oWBc3)

444 >>It's been thirty fucking years of the US trying to "clean these Soviet era labs out" and they're still stocked to the top shelves with bioweapons?

Well seeing as we dicked around in Iraq for a decade and Afghanistan for 20 years, this may not be as unbelievable as it may seem.

I think a lot of people are coming around to the fact that we may not be the good guys we might have thought we were.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 10, 2022 05:33 PM (yZIJo)

445 I still don't know what a thermobaric bomb is but they must be stopped with a Twitter campaign and anybody that has them should be cancelled. Unless we like them.

Posted by: Ripley at March 10, 2022 05:33 PM (MxEKc)

446 I mean seriously. There was video of these massive bombs being dropped parachute, spraying out a fog of gasoline and then a GIANT explosion. And much giddiness about what was going to happen the the taliban. Literally EVERYONE knows about this.
Posted by: serious you guys, this is embarrassing. at March 10, 2022 05:29 PM (Ccvzh)
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I think they use ethylene oxide, not gasoline. Ethylene oxide makes gasoline look inert.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 10, 2022 05:33 PM (76S/3)

447 Victoria Nuland drives a VW Beetle with eyelashes over the headlights and one of those solar waving daisies on the dash. She traded her PT Cruiser for it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2022 05:33 PM (qnVBz)

448 >>Except the same thing was going on in Kazakhstan and Putin shut it down and ran the CIA out without firing a shot.

>>Something else is driving this.

Completely different situation. The government in Kazakhstan was already friendly to Putin and he helped shut down the coup before a western puppet was installed.

There are no breakaway zones in Kazakhstan that want to align with Russia because the entire country already is.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 10, 2022 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)

449 Thermobaric or Vacuum bombs are the Russian name for the fuel-air bombs we first used in the Vietnam war.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president
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No those are the names the enemy media uses to scare stupid people and push American public opinion. They sound super scary because THERMO-nuclear is so close and MY GOD VACUUM BOMBS AHHHHHHHH!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 10, 2022 05:33 PM (iDcra)

450 But then I saw who was telling me I need to support Ukraine and it is people I know who lie to me. So I started looking into the facts and have found a lot of facts are not positive for our side.

So my opinions are in flux. I dislike Putin invading, but I'm finding it hard view us/Ukraine as having the moral high ground.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 05:13 PM (wWYTv)

We don't have a side. I certainly don't side with Lt Col Bearclaw and the rest of the merry impeachers. Or with Burisma. Sorry, but Ukraine chose poorly. And I will always oppose Vic Nuland.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at March 10, 2022 05:33 PM (fpzDt)

451 >>> 82
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The dumb thing about bioweapons is there's not really any scenario in which it makes sense to use them. That also tends to make them ineffective as a deterrent.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2022 04:43 PM (z5Vrg)

They're great at reducing population.

Posted by: Great Resetters at March 10, 2022 05:34 PM (llON8)

452 > the Russians I've met (admittedly a small group) were exceedingly obnoxious and boorish.

Same.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:34 PM (VCz/u)

453 > It was directed at a particular gung-ho let's send YOUR kids to personally battle putin commenter who cites thermobarics as some sort of casus belli. We have them. We've used them. BFD.

Oh, that I agree with. It's not some verboten super weapon.
Posted by: bonhomme

Mark Levin had a 10 min rant about thermos the other day. "iT sUcKs tHe OxEgEn OuT tHe AiR~!REEEEEE!@"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2022 05:34 PM (zWpOF)

454 @421
Except the same thing was going on in Kazakhstan and Putin shut it down and ran the CIA out without firing a shot.

Something else is driving this.

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I would say something else has been going on in Ukraine since at least as far back as the Malaysia Air shoot down.

Posted by: Junior at March 10, 2022 05:34 PM (8ukeS)

455 OK, slow up on the equivalency.

This is like the debate about land mines. The US has them, and uses them. They are not the problem, but how they are used is.

Russia tends to use them as a terror/shock weapon against obstreperous civilians. They are very good at wide area damage, so great for military bases and targets, but also great for city destruction.

The weapon is not the problem, how they are used is.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 10, 2022 05:34 PM (76Ab6)

456 I don't understand. There are a lot of weapons systems that people would be outraged to know about. Therefore, what? They should be up to date on knowing about all the weapons systems out there and fully outraged about the outrageous ones? They shouldn't be outraged when they find out about the outrageous systems they didn't know about?
Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:25 PM (VCz/u)

No. Media is drumming up the scare by using a scary term "thermobaric" and over stating the effects. O look how dastardly the Russians are to use this outrageously outrageous think they are unique in their evil!

I will answer my questions for you. The US has them in inventory and has used them within recent memory. No one said boo.

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:34 PM (9otr5)

457 >>Still the dumbest of conspiracy theories. These labs weren't secret.

Neither was Wuhan. What was done in the lab is what was kept secret.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 10, 2022 05:35 PM (ZLI7S)

458 What you definitely WON'T hear on the evening news about the World Economic Forum, in their own words.

https://tinyurl.com/mybjse59

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at March 10, 2022 05:35 PM (ZEHVO)

459 Yes deep staters it is from RT but IT IS VIDEO.

It's C-SPAN.

https://bit.ly/3hVEZVt

And given her answer, it's even worse than we think.

Posted by: t-bird at March 10, 2022 05:35 PM (UMXod)

460
Smolliet's defense has invoked Ukraine, racism, BLM, and the Holocaust in trying to mitigate his sentence.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

You forgot Flint, Michigan!

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 10, 2022 05:35 PM (oYLWM)

461 I don't care about Ukraine. Nothing can make me care about Ukraine. I wish them the best, but they brought this on themselves, with the help of our disgusting government.

I have no use for any of the people involved in this mess.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

You should read up on Zelenskyy's "cabinet", if you already haven't. A bunch of his entertainer friends and a couple of entertainment lawyers.
Stupid, corrupt, cronyism. But let's be all about the Blue and Yellow!!!!! Facebook colors, everyone!!!!!

I sincerely feel sorry for the people there, because they don't deserve this. Stalin killed millions there with starvation (the Holomodor) in the 1930's (read "Bloodlands", it is terribly tragic), and then they were on the German invasion route into the Soviet Union. More killing, more tragedy.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at March 10, 2022 05:35 PM (vcOmj)

462 > US Military was bragging 15-20 years ago about how effective they are at sucking the air out of caves.
.......

Then the assholes oughta be able to at least help me with my gophers.

Posted by: wth at March 10, 2022 05:35 PM (v0R5T)

463 That and - How's you retirement plan or portfolio doing Posted by: Braenyard

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Never, not even for a second, think that the financial and energy disaster happening right now is caused by fools. The people causing this are steel eyed Marxist Green New Dealers that are devoted to their religious cult of climate change. All of this is intentional and by design. They well could trigger a famine - if farmers can't afford to farm, we will find out that we love to eat dogs and leaves. Our government has been subject to a hostile takeover by people that govern to further their ever-expanding utopia and could care less of the negative effects of this utopia on the citizens the ostensibly are supposed to serve.

Posted by: LostInSpace at March 10, 2022 05:36 PM (PVI4b)

464 >>> I still don't know what a thermobaric bomb is but they must be stopped with a Twitter campaign and anybody that has them should be cancelled. Unless we like them.
Posted by: Ripley

Bring Back Our Bombs!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 10, 2022 05:36 PM (VWp7G)

465
Brandon, Brandon,
he's our man!
If he can't do it,
maybe Kamala can!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 10, 2022 05:36 PM (a3Q+t)

466 >>> 453 > It was directed at a particular gung-ho let's send YOUR kids to personally battle putin commenter who cites thermobarics as some sort of casus belli. We have them. We've used them. BFD.

Oh, that I agree with. It's not some verboten super weapon.
Posted by: bonhomme

Mark Levin had a 10 min rant about thermos the other day. "iT sUcKs tHe OxEgEn OuT tHe AiR~!REEEEEE!@"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2022 05:34 PM (zWpOF)

Oh FFS. I very clearly remember this exact thing being mentioned about Afghanistan and caves in the early 2000s just as other commenters have mentioned.

Shut up, Old Yeller.

Posted by: Great Resetters at March 10, 2022 05:36 PM (llON8)

467 You forgot Flint, Michigan!
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 10, 2022 05:35 PM (oYLWM)

Yes I did. Talking to kids with lead poisoning?
They don't mention that the Flint thing was caused by Dems and incompetence. BIRM

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 10, 2022 05:36 PM (kxVDk)

468 Yes thermobaric is a fuel-air explosive. Neither MOAB nor Daisycutter are one.
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The Russian version is the FOAB ours is the MOAB. We use TNT, powdered aluminum and parafin. Its not clear what they use in theirs. Some think it is a fuel air mixture. It might be or it might be more like ours.
The say theirs is more powerful. We say ours is. They both have the same effect.

Posted by: serious you guys, this is embarrassing. at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (5OQFf)

469
Ukraine, Trayvon Martin, the "uncertain economy, the pandemic, Putin, Flint's water, racism, holocaust, AIDS, ...

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (oYLWM)

470 I think the big deal about Putin using the thermobaric bomb is that he did it a Chernobyl.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:22 PM (EjQb2)[/]

Wow. Wow wow wow. That's not even...not even close to true.

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (9otr5)
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Those people that were on the right side of the media BS on covid have gone completely to the "media" on Russia-Ukraine all on "media"..... LIES again.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (iDcra)

471 There are likely more marxists in our government than in the Russian government right now.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (QS/FC)

472 Wow. Wow wow wow. That's not even...not even close to true.

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:26 PM (9otr5)
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Where did he use it?
When he did it there was much conversation whether it was or wasn't thermobaric.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (EjQb2)

473 > Mark Levin had a 10 min rant about thermos the other day. "iT sUcKs tHe OxEgEn OuT tHe AiR~!REEEEEE!@"

Plain old bombs rip you apart, jellify your innards with the concussion, deafen you, etc depending on how far you are away from them. Bombs suck. I don't see how sucking air out of an area is any worse than a concussion wave turning your brain and organs into a fine pate.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (VCz/u)

474 Remember the fit people threw when they announced the Neutron bomb that would kill everything but leave the buildings?

Posted by: fd at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (vrz2I)

475 I sincerely feel sorry for the people there, because they don't deserve this. Stalin killed millions there with starvation (the Holomodor) in the 1930's (read "Bloodlands", it is terribly tragic), and then they were on the German invasion route into the Soviet Union. More killing, more tragedy.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at March 10, 2022 05:35 PM (vcOmj)

Me, too. But there is nothing to be gained by our involvement, and there is plenty at risk. That's not pro Pooty Poot. That's pro-American people and American interest.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (SH2Zi)

476
oh, and women's rights, and poor communities.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (oYLWM)

477 The dumb thing about bioweapons is there's not really any scenario in which it makes sense to use them.

Cough Covid-19 cough.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (ZEHVO)

478 >>I don't care about Ukraine. Nothing can make me care about Ukraine. I wish them the best, but they brought this on themselves, with the help of our disgusting government.

Wait until the extent of Ukraine's involvement with the Russia hoax and meddling in our 2016 election is revealed and then a lot of people will have a completely different view of Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (ZLI7S)

479 Well, perhaps Jennifer Griffin is paying off her existential debt to the Deep State that saw to it that she got the cure for her Stage 4 breast cancer? She's clearly "owned" to some degree, to have diminished herself by delivering such outrageous propaganda to her audience.

Posted by: Based Tanguera at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (WZ4GO)

480 still waiting to hear the Smollett sentence. The fun thing about this is that all the Chicago PD wanted him to do (at the beginning) was say "I'm sorry, I lied." But he had to double down, and double down, and now here he is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (trdmm)

481 I will answer my questions for you. The US has them in inventory and has used them within recent memory. No one said boo.
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To be fair, we CHEERED.

Posted by: serious you guys, this is embarrassing. at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (L3fzk)

482 I don't get what Jussie's lawyers are doing. It's not like the judge is going to say, "You're right. I'm overruling the jury's verdict!"
Is he just trying to achieve Stacy Abrams status, where the elites ignore all the facts, and put their arms around him anyway? (Well, they never put their arms AROUND Stacy, but they got maybe halfway there)

Posted by: Wally at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (S8gsF)

483 How many absurd, insulting lies from the Government-Media Regime am I expected to pretend to believe in order to be considered a Patriot who is not a Russian Agent?

All of them. Failure is not an option.

Posted by: Ministry of Trvth at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (a3Q+t)

484 >>It's been thirty fucking years of the US trying to "clean these Soviet era labs out" and they're still stocked to the top shelves with bioweapons?

I worked with Hanford. These fucking people plan out their careers on a single project that would take the non-gov. funded sector a single year. It is insane - every step creates two new steps. It is like swimming in molasses, backwards.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (76Ab6)

485 Yeah he's a monster but I'd bet his body count is quite a bit lower than Frau Gruppencankles and her party.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue

"Frau Gruppencankles"

Ima gonna steal that.

Posted by: strange matter at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (vcv8B)

486 I could be wrong but I think fuel-air explosive/thermobaric bombs, and cluster bombs/warheads/shells are legal for use in war against military forces and targets.

Napalm, flamethrowers, and burying troops alive are legal warfare weapons and tactics.

Posted by: Gref at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (AMIL/)

487 469
Ukraine, Trayvon Martin, the "uncertain economy, the pandemic, Putin, Flint's water, racism, holocaust, AIDS, ...
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 10, 2022 05:37 PM (oYLWM)
______________

Net neutrality, global warming, misgendered pronouns, ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 10, 2022 05:39 PM (76S/3)

488 Smollett sentencing still going on, unbelievably.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 10, 2022 05:39 PM (kxVDk)

489 That and - How's you retirement plan or portfolio doing?

Posted by: Braenyard at March 10, 2022 05:24 PM (EjQb2)

Not advised to look

Posted by: A dude in MI at March 10, 2022 05:39 PM (/6GbT)

490 482 I don't get what Jussie's lawyers are doing. It's not like the judge is going to say, "You're right. I'm overruling the jury's verdict!"
Is he just trying to achieve Stacy Abrams status, where the elites ignore all the facts, and put their arms around him anyway? (Well, they never put their arms AROUND Stacy, but they got maybe halfway there)
Posted by: Wally at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (S8gsF)

All I can guess is that somebody behind the scenes is paying them Big Money to defend Smollett, and they know they've blown it and lost miserably, so they're trying to at least put on a good show for their financial backer.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 10, 2022 05:40 PM (trdmm)

491 In the Smolliete trial the defense attroney was saying black men are incarcerated at a higher rate than whites,
so Juicy should not get jail time.

So he pulled a race hoax and all the defense is racist bullshit. Hopefully we got a judge with some balls

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2022 05:40 PM (M+Lyo)

492 "Me, too. But there is nothing to be gained by our involvement, and there is plenty at risk. That's not pro Pooty Poot. That's pro-American people and American interest.
Posted by: flounder"

I know it sounds crazy but we don't have to be involved in every single conflict around the world.

Posted by: Ripley at March 10, 2022 05:40 PM (MxEKc)

493 The fun thing about this is that all the Chicago PD wanted him to do (at the beginning) was say "I'm sorry, I lied." But he had to double down, and double down, and now here he is.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (trdmm)

And at sentencing, that's all a judge really wants to hear. This is bizarre.

Posted by: Wally at March 10, 2022 05:40 PM (S8gsF)

494 The weapon is not the problem, how they are used is.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 10, 2022 05:34 PM (76Ab6)

So, again, compare and contrast. How do the Russians employ them v how does the Us employ them?

The knock seems to be well it blows up real good.

Well, yeah. That's the point.

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:40 PM (9otr5)

495 93 A brief aside.

Antony Blinken. Who names their kid "Antony"?
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Someone who lacks aspiration?

Posted by: Ciampino at March 10, 2022 05:41 PM (qfLjt)

496 My grandson dropped a thermobaric bomb in my bathroom one weekend. Couldn't go in there for an hour.

Posted by: wth at March 10, 2022 05:41 PM (v0R5T)

497 So, if the Russians Thermobariked Dee Cee the only thing the surrounding areas would have to worry about are falling body parts and bent Porsche hoods?

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 10, 2022 05:41 PM (GYllL)

498
I want to see Juicy Smoolyay punished harshly, as much as anyone else.

But remember this: whatever his sentence, no matter how light it may be, G-d has already given him a life sentence of being Juicy Smoolyay, which is perhaps worse than anything else anyone can do to him.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 10, 2022 05:41 PM (SKVme)

499 >>>My grandson dropped a thermobaric bomb in my bathroom one weekend. Couldn't go in there for an hour.
Posted by: wth

Taco Bell?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 10, 2022 05:42 PM (VWp7G)

500 I think they use ethylene oxide

I dated her for a while. She was hot.

Posted by: That guy who always says... at March 10, 2022 05:42 PM (Xrfse)

501 Biden 'personally killed Polish jet deal' despite Republican AND Democrats ramping up calls to give Ukraine combat planes to make Putin 'fearful of what WE might do'

..wasn't this the guy who told us he could stand toe-to-toe with Putin ?

Posted by: SMOD at March 10, 2022 05:42 PM (X5CsJ)

502
The United States does not do biological weapons research. Period.

It does do biological weapons defense research, which is the same thing. It's a rose by another name.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at March 10, 2022 05:42 PM (Mzdiz)

503 To be fair, we CHEERED.
Posted by: serious you guys, this is embarrassing

I recall reading that they were used in the First and Second battle in Fallujah (small version) in Bing West's "No True Glory", an account of the second Fallujah.
The US Army has a man carried, rocket propelled version that can incinerate a house or something that size.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at March 10, 2022 05:42 PM (vcOmj)

504 And I don't regret the egg that our corrupt leaders will get on their face as their lies and corruprion are exposed.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 10, 2022 04:59 PM (wWYTv)

I want egg and rotten tomatoes and smelly compost on their dirty, lying, cheating, evil faces.

Posted by: Iris at March 10, 2022 05:42 PM (DibdT)

505 Theory is that by rehashing the trial, they preserve arguments for appeal. But, practically, really tough to overturn a jury

They are doing aggravation and mitigation statements now.

Well, now they are taking a short recess.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 10, 2022 05:42 PM (kxVDk)

506 It's been thirty fucking years of the US trying to "clean these Soviet era labs out" and they're still stocked to the top shelves with bioweapons?

Keep that excuse in mind when the Taiwan lab ~~start to make the news.~~

Posted by: t-bird at March 10, 2022 05:42 PM (JioHo)

507 Wait until the extent of Ukraine's involvement with the Russia hoax and meddling in our 2016 election is revealed and then a lot of people will have a completely different view of Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 10, 2022 05:38 PM (ZLI7S)

Well we know it here and look.

Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2022 05:42 PM (9otr5)

508 Ukrainian coup overthrew, by all accounts , a legitimately elected government that was friendly to Russia. They then proceeded to outlaw the use of the Russian language. They also helped produce the Russian dossier. Don't know why I am supposed to support them.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 10, 2022 05:43 PM (XntMs)

509

NOOOOOD

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 10, 2022 05:43 PM (oYLWM)

510 Me, too. But there is nothing to be gained by our involvement, and there is plenty at risk. That's not pro Pooty Poot. That's pro-American people and American interest.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur

I agree. It's just tragic.
I feel this is somehow all some kind of Psy Op on the world. And regular people in Ukraine are expendable.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at March 10, 2022 05:43 PM (vcOmj)

511 I just saw a tweet that said that Jussie dragged his 92 year old grandmother to court to beg for him not to go to jail. ROFL!!!

"Judge, Judge, my old granny loves me! How can you send me to jail???"

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 10, 2022 05:44 PM (trdmm)

512 Someone who lacks aspiration?
Posted by: Ciampino at March 10, 2022 05:41 PM

* raises burned remnant of arm *

Posted by: Dude who's been thermobarically-bombed at March 10, 2022 05:44 PM (a3Q+t)

513 Wait until the extent
....
MUST RESIST THE OBVIOUS MUST >>>>>
ARGGHHH

#twoweeks

Posted by: serious you guys, this is embarrassing. at March 10, 2022 05:45 PM (GUq3t)

514 Pony auction in Chincoteague is for the local volunteer FD who own the herd that lives on the Virginia portion of Assateague island.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at March 10, 2022 05:45 PM (b+v9B)

515 362 Kazakhstan one of Russia's friends in the great fertilizer shutdown...

zerohedge @zerohedge
Russia To Ban Fertilizer Exports To 'Not Friendly' Countries; China Warns US Against Retaliation

Why do we import fertilizer from Kazakhstan?

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at March 10, 2022 05:45 PM (fpzDt)

516 Just tried to get gas at Sam's. No shit line 15 vehicles deep. Out into the parking lot.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2022 05:45 PM (Ecl8U)

517 >>Well we know it here and look.

Some do. Most don't. And 90% of the rest of the country has no clue at all.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 10, 2022 05:45 PM (ZLI7S)

518 >>> 497 So, if the Russians Thermobariked Dee Cee the only thing the surrounding areas would have to worry about are falling body parts and bent Porsche hoods?
Posted by: Capital Eff at March 10, 2022 05:41 PM (GYllL)

We want the local Horde to go on vacation immediately before this.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 05:45 PM (llON8)

519 94 Williwed:

Chemistry departments traditionally have had special sheds to carry out such hydrogenations remote from the main building so that they don't blow up the entire department if someone makes a mistake. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Never had one for hydrogenation in any of the many places I worked at but we did have such a shed in Cambridge MA for work involving fluorine gas. (Almost) everything burns in fluorine, even brick and cement.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 10, 2022 05:45 PM (qfLjt)

520 All the Good Lord wants of us is a contrite heart.

Juicy ain't got it, yet.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 10, 2022 05:46 PM (lKAqb)

521 >>> I think they use ethylene oxide

The chick from the Golden Girls?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 10, 2022 05:46 PM (VWp7G)

522 >>> 510
.....
I agree. It's just tragic.
I feel this is somehow all some kind of Psy Op on the world. And regular people in Ukraine are expendable.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at March 10, 2022 05:43 PM (vcOmj)

You must have seen the same list of Ukraine "supporters" as I did.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 05:46 PM (llON8)

523 Huh.

So, Senators Dick Lugar and Dick Smoker were in a partnership?

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 10, 2022 05:47 PM (WmGrA)

524 nood

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 10, 2022 05:47 PM (llON8)

525 Maybe I am biased, but I heard all this bullshit in the 70s how the Soviets were no worse than the US, blah blah blah.

Or maybe I just *need* to believe that the US is still that shining city on a hill. At least a little bit.

So I bristle at equivalency arguments. Maybe I am wrong and all is lost. I don't know.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 10, 2022 05:47 PM (76Ab6)

526 Speaking of Bioweapons, the Soviets made, literally, tons of smallpox viruses, engineered to make our vaccines ineffective against them. They even had warheads for their SS-9 missiles to carry them. Rat Bastard Communists.

I'm sure there are none of those viruses still in Russia.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at March 10, 2022 05:48 PM (ZEHVO)

527 Yeah, I'm always way behind the times, but...

November 2021 - Bill Gates warned of future pandemics and smallpox terror attacks. Also, governments - certainly the US and UK - must prepare by investing billions in R&D and, along with other nations, in the formation of a new billion-dollar WHO Pandemic Task Force.

Also: There's a new COVID variant, Deltacron, detected in France, Denmark and The Netherlands.

And Ukraine has administered enough COVID vaccine to have covered about 35.7% of the country's population.

Posted by: Lola at March 10, 2022 05:51 PM (xjz83)

528 I haven't watched Fox news in years. I vaguely remember the name Jennifer Griffin. Isn't she the greying woman with the "I go to a barber shop" lesbian haircut? Don't make me watch Fox to verify.

Posted by: Dave's not here at March 10, 2022 05:55 PM (wGqi3)

529 Speaking of Bioweapons, the Soviets made, literally, tons of smallpox viruses, engineered to make our vaccines ineffective against them. They even had warheads for their SS-9 missiles to carry them. Rat Bastard Communists.

I'm sure there are none of those viruses still in Russia.
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They also had an outbreak in a lab that should have been shut down as part of an anti bioweapons treaty that killed everyone in a nearby town.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 10, 2022 05:55 PM (UHVv4)

530 129 Unless you've persuaded yourself that you've made a virus that only targets who you want it to target. Is there something physically different about a person of ethnicity X versus everyone else that you can isolate and target?
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There's a good SciFi short story like that, about a bunch of guys around a meeting table, but I don't remember the title or author - but very good.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 10, 2022 05:59 PM (qfLjt)

531
Just reading: Facebook is now going to allow calls for violence against Putin and Russian soldiers.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at March 10, 2022 06:04 PM (Mzdiz)

532 At least one of the labs stored dangerous pathogens from the soviet era. Check out at about 1:10 here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9cCqChMLs

Posted by: lymond at March 10, 2022 06:07 PM (Jvjtu)

533 162 .... there won't even be any melted metal left to testify as to what once stood there. It'll all have burnt down to atoms.
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Thermit is aluminum powder and iron oxide powder so there will be lots of metal and metal oxides after the burn. The glass will melt and the plastics will burn.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 10, 2022 06:11 PM (qfLjt)

534 Also in Orlando....a black man stabbed and killed a middle aged white couple biking home.

Just a local story though, no biggie.

Back to your regularly scheduled stories of white supremacy everywhere....

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 10, 2022 06:24 PM (OalnH)

535 Oh and the white couple that was stabbed to death by a black man in Orlando....we will never know why.

Direct quote from the police chief:

"We can't rule out that this may be totally random, but if it is totally random, the person responsible has to be deranged."

Yes totally random. Black man totally randomly kills white people. For no reason. Whatsoever. Totally random.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 10, 2022 06:26 PM (OalnH)

536 Obama-Hildabeast-Fauci supported communist bio chem warfare labs?

Can you say treason kiddies?

Posted by: Harry at March 10, 2022 07:59 PM (EcD5Y)

537 "from the Soviet era"

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 10, 2022 08:06 PM (UHVv4)

538 Facebook said Thursday that due to the invasion of Ukraine it has temporarily eased its rules regarding violent speech to allow statements like "death to Russian invaders," but not credible threats against civilians.

Posted by: SMOD at March 10, 2022 08:27 PM (X5CsJ)

539 Executives at the United States Chamber of Commerce are urging President Joe Biden and Congress to double legal immigration levels so that the nation's 11.3 million job openings can be filled by foreign workers rather than jobless Americans on the sidelines of the labor market.

Posted by: SMOD at March 10, 2022 08:34 PM (X5CsJ)

540 No. You're way off base.

1) Biological weapons are often incredibly difficult and expensive to destroy. You can't just chuck them on a fire and hope none of it gets airborne.
Disposal can be multi-stage which can include draining the munition, destroying the munition in a vacuum chamber and transporting the pathogen for destruction in something like a Plasma Energy Pyrolysis System.

2) You heard what you wanted to from Nuland's statement. It seems's to me that she pointed out (in response to the question 'Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?') that Ukraine has facilities no different than Porton Down or Fort Detrick.

Posted by: Stv at March 11, 2022 07:55 AM (B2on5)

541

3) These facilities are not secret nor has American support been.
This document, downloadable from the State Dept website tells you about what has been happening since 2005, not 1991-

state.gov/
wp-content/uploads/2019/02/05-829-Ukraine-Weapons.pdf

4) Russia is using this to try to manufacture casus belli. They have been for more than a year and have yet to offer any proof that there is anything malicious going on.
If you fall for it you are falling for Russian propaganda.

Posted by: Stv at March 11, 2022 07:56 AM (B2on5)

542 Further, considering Russia seems just fine with using chemical weapons, including recently on a NATO member, Ukraine would be stupid not to have a facility where they identify, respond and counteract to any attack on their own soil.
It's obviously better to be able to medically treat people quickly in the event of a CBRN attack than have to wait for lab results to come back from another country.

Posted by: Stv at March 11, 2022 07:59 AM (B2on5)

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