RIP P.J. O'Rourke

He got more liberal and establishment in later years but he was an amusingly contrarian rogue before that.

He was 74.

I think he took over as editor of National Lampoon when Doug Kenney died.

He was the co-editor of the famous High School Yearbook Parody.

Posted by: Ace at 05:34 PM

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1 Sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at February 15, 2022 05:34 PM (LvTSG)

2 RIP

Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2022 05:35 PM (bjxnr)

3 He really broke my heart towards the end but still, this is a huge loss. May he rest in peace.

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 15, 2022 05:35 PM (j9HX3)

4 Never read his stuff.

Hi ace!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 15, 2022 05:36 PM (Vxu+H)

5 Parliament of Whores is a classic.

RIP, PJ.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 15, 2022 05:36 PM (WmGrA)

6 I only read his _Batchelor's Home Companion_, but it is hilarious.

Posted by: goodluckduck at February 15, 2022 05:37 PM (pCXlW)

7 Read most if his books and he was funny and insightful. Too bad he went NeverTrump, but I'm not surprised.

He always wanted to be The Establislishment.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 15, 2022 05:37 PM (mR6Gs)

8 RIP, PJ!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2022 05:37 PM (URNdm)

9 That. Sucks.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at February 15, 2022 05:37 PM (J3Ub3)

10 7 Almost all of them do.

Posted by: Bete at February 15, 2022 05:38 PM (Ojki1)

11 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 15, 2022 05:38 PM (arJlL)

12 I loved him, read everything he wrote. Even met him once at a speaking engagement.
He took my heart out and stomped it flat when he endorsed Hillary.
I figured it was a brain tumor.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 15, 2022 05:38 PM (jTmQV)

13 Is PJ related to Beto?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 15, 2022 05:38 PM (PiwSw)

14 I would have like him a lot more if he had died 10 years ago.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 15, 2022 05:38 PM (trdmm)

15 Covid?

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 15, 2022 05:38 PM (ju2Fy)

16 Double Willowed:

Remington just settled gun suit with families in school shooting for 73 million. That is the effective end of the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 05:39 PM (ZEHVO)

17 Dunno who that is, but RIP.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 05:39 PM (1fakz)

18 For any illiterates who are unfamiliar with Mr. O'Rourke: google "How to Drive Fast on Drugs While Getting Your
Wing-Wang Squeezed and Not Spill Your Drink".

The world is grayer without him.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at February 15, 2022 05:39 PM (J3Ub3)

19 He was funny, and often clever, but a chamber of commerce guy until the end.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 15, 2022 05:39 PM (5kI0z)

20 I have "Eat the Rich" somewhere around here. I remember liking it. Can't say I've kept up with him.

Posted by: Javems at February 15, 2022 05:39 PM (HVnf3)

21 Double Willowed:

Remington just settled gun suit with families in school shooting for 73 million. That is the effective end of the 2nd amendment.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 05:39 PM (ZEHVO)

I don't know about that, but it's a horrible, terrible precedent. Every gangbanger's "mourning" family is going to sue the shit out of the gun maker.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 15, 2022 05:40 PM (mR6Gs)

22 >>>Hi ace!

hi madame!

Posted by: ace at February 15, 2022 05:41 PM (0G13K)

23 >>Double Willowed:

Remington just settled gun suit with families in school shooting for 73 million. That is the effective end of the 2nd amendment.

Civil settlement. Not a legal settlement.

Posted by: Capital Eff at February 15, 2022 05:42 PM (GYllL)

24 I just don't see how an out of court settlement sets any precedent, or impacts the bill of rights.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 15, 2022 05:42 PM (5kI0z)

25 another reminder that I might not have that many years left. I miss me.

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at February 15, 2022 05:42 PM (Ynyl9)

26 Insurance wanted to conclude their Remington business, since it's been bankrupt...this was a business decision, and probably not one future non-bankrupt gun manufacturers will follow...From CNN (I'm sorry)...

"The $73 million settlement is all of the available coverage that Remington's insurance carriers could pay, the plaintiffs' attorneys said. Last summer, Remington approached the families with a nearly $33 million settlement offer. At the time, lawyers for the families said they would consider their next steps."

Posted by: Nova local at February 15, 2022 05:42 PM (exHjb)

27 Parliament of Whores should be required reading in any government class!

Posted by: Nevada Dave at February 15, 2022 05:42 PM (3DzQz)

28 >>>19 He was funny, and often clever, but a chamber of commerce guy until the end.

right. but the lampoon guys were the Harvard Golf Team type of Republican. So, yeah. Their "conservatism" was the "conservatism" of NeverTrump, which was just a sneering contempt for "the Lower Orders."

Posted by: ace at February 15, 2022 05:42 PM (0G13K)

29 Fuck him. He went NeverTrump.
Why is he ok, yet other NeverTrumpers bad?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2022 05:43 PM (Hica+)

30 Test

Posted by: runner at February 15, 2022 05:43 PM (ZXJxj)

31 >>>29 Fuck him. He went NeverTrump.
Why is he ok, yet other NeverTrumpers bad?

well I said he went sideways at the end.

Posted by: ace at February 15, 2022 05:43 PM (0G13K)

32 >>29 Fuck him. He went NeverTrump.
Why is he ok, yet other NeverTrumpers bad?

Posted by: rickb223

Claimed he voted for Hillary. Yes, fuck him all the way to Hell.

Posted by: Capital Eff at February 15, 2022 05:43 PM (GYllL)

33 I don't know about that, but it's a horrible, terrible precedent.

Who is going to manufacture guns with all the ambulance chasers lining up for a big payday?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 05:43 PM (ZEHVO)

34 Cause of death was "Complications of Lung Cancer" for O'Rourke...(from his publisher's Twitter feed)

Posted by: Nova local at February 15, 2022 05:44 PM (exHjb)

35 Insurance wanted to conclude their Remington business, since it's been bankrupt...this was a business decision, and probably not one future non-bankrupt gun manufacturers will follow...

Isn't that called "precedence?"

Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2022 05:44 PM (Hica+)

36 I read him when he was funny...

Posted by: runner at February 15, 2022 05:44 PM (ZXJxj)

37 Test
Posted by: runner

i'd give a 10, but the fwench and russian judges have provided a drunk hooker and $10k to give you a 3.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 15, 2022 05:44 PM (IJES/)

38 35 Insurance wanted to conclude their Remington business, since it's been bankrupt...this was a business decision, and probably not one future non-bankrupt gun manufacturers will follow...

Isn't that called "precedence?"
Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2022 05:44 PM (Hica+)

No, it's not a court decision...now it may make insurance companies leery, so those rates will go up.

Posted by: Nova local at February 15, 2022 05:45 PM (exHjb)

39 Well...hopefully he is atoning now

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at February 15, 2022 05:45 PM (XvPQV)

40 I found O'Rourke funny a few times. He will be missed, I am sure.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 15, 2022 05:45 PM (yQpMk)

41 Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 15, 2022 05:44 PM (IJES/)

Sellout....

Posted by: runner at February 15, 2022 05:45 PM (ZXJxj)

42
Fuck him. He went NeverTrump.
Why is he ok, yet other NeverTrumpers bad?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2022 05:43 PM (Hica+)

I'm with ya. Fair is fair.

But his support for Hillary Clinton made me personally sad, because he was a big influence on me as a teenager. I'd like to chalk it up to old age/derangement.

But it's probably just that every person in American public life is a got-damned charlatan.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2022 05:45 PM (CARG2)

43 willowed and shit...

https://gab.com/Breaking911/posts/
107804309880622603

NEW: Bipartisan Group of Senate Leaders Issue "Message of Solidarity" With Ukraine
Posted by: doing a big think on casting votes for the NJP at this point. jfc

Posted by: Yay, Republicans! at February 15, 2022 05:45 PM (Iv5sx)

44 This just in: the owner of Fantasy Island just died.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (eMEkg)

45 PJ can be funny or dead. Not both.

Posted by: klaftern at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (taPSh)

46 I choose to remember him by his earlier work. And i pray that someday I'll meet him in A Better Place, where I'll smack him up side the head, and ask, "P.j., what the heck happened to you there at the end?"

RIP

Posted by: 2009Refugee at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (lWmKC)

47 Why are so many people dying? Is it confirmation bias or are all cause deaths really up 40%?

Posted by: Max Power at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (livMh)

48
Is PJ related to Beto?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper

I think he's related to that Fantasy Island guy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (63Dwl)

49 29 Fuck him. He went NeverTrump.
Why is he ok, yet other NeverTrumpers bad?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2022 05:43 PM (Hica+)

Because he was funny as hell. Not something you could say about Bill Kristol. (Unless you're using a different meaning for "funny"...)

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (J3Ub3)

50 Right, there an invasion scheduled.

Posted by: runner at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (ZXJxj)

51 Very simple, no insurance company is going to write a liability policy for a gun manufacturer in the future, this was more left wing sabotage.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 05:47 PM (ZEHVO)

52 A funny, funny man, whether I agreed with his argument or not.

Posted by: aelfheld at February 15, 2022 05:47 PM (Zy9Yy)

53 He knew how to title a book. "Give War A Chance". Heh!

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 15, 2022 05:47 PM (sAmhv)

54
Sellout....
Posted by: runner

now two drunk (female) hookers could get you maybe a 7.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 15, 2022 05:47 PM (IJES/)

55 this is a darn tootin' big loss. We should get over his latest hillary nonsense. Kinda cool he was so instrumental in the early, old crazy days of National Lampoon. As well as Car and Driver.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 15, 2022 05:47 PM (ZZK0E)

56 RIP PJ.

Though you were a NeverTrumper, you were never an official member of the NeverTrump Human Centipede Mobius Strip, so you get to walk through the Pearly Gates without the taste of Bill Kristol's ass on your tongue.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 05:48 PM (0g2Ck)

57 Pointed Stick insurance is skyrocketing.

Posted by: klaftern at February 15, 2022 05:48 PM (taPSh)

58 Parliament of Whores was the best description of Congress ever penned. Yeah, he sucked in later years. The Deep State must have gotten some Epstein / John Roberts level kompromat on him.

Posted by: cool breeze at February 15, 2022 05:48 PM (UGKMd)

59 Kinda cool he was so instrumental in the early, old crazy days of National Lampoon. As well as Car and Driver.
___

Explains why I never heard of him...didn't read either as a kid.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 05:48 PM (1fakz)

60
Remington just settled gun suit with families in school shooting for 73 million

Time for those killed or injured in Waukesha to sue the vehicle manufacturer.

Posted by: Bruce at February 15, 2022 05:48 PM (vd8XM)

61 It was either "Republican Party Reptile" or "Holidays in Hell" that introduced me to O'Rourke.

Posted by: aelfheld at February 15, 2022 05:48 PM (Zy9Yy)

62 I owned 'Republican Party Reptile' once upon a time.
He was the first Republican to me, besides Regan, who was funny.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at February 15, 2022 05:49 PM (XvPQV)

63 A "conservative" voting for Hillary in 2016 is the equivalent of a going on a date with Kate Upton, and instead of boning her, you decide to smear shit all over yourself and wait for her to get up and leave.

Posted by: ... at February 15, 2022 05:49 PM (dscaa)

64 Holy crap. Yeesh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2022 05:49 PM (ptqGC)

65 Speaking of death, this is a short film called Re/Entry which is incredibly cool:

https://tinyurl.com/Lid-Flipping-WHOA

Man dies and G-d explains some stuff to him. Some of it a little blasphemous if you are a true believer of any of the major Earthly religions, but also very thought-provoking and interesting.

I really wish I'd written this.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 05:49 PM (0g2Ck)

66 24 I just don't see how an out of court settlement sets any precedent, or impacts the bill of rights.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 15, 2022 05:42 PM (5kI0z)

That's because they don't set precedent, they are not appellate rulings, they apply to nothing but their own cases. But they provide plenty of fodder for people to lose their sh*t over - which is in the style book, Chapter 7: Ways A Moron Can Lose His Sh*t and Still Sound Profound.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Feed Your Rage Energy Drinks 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at February 15, 2022 05:49 PM (5mjFm)

67 I nood it!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 15, 2022 05:49 PM (lCui1)

68 This just in: the owner of Fantasy Island just died.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (eMEkg)

I thought Ricardo Montalban died back in 2009 or 2010.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 15, 2022 05:50 PM (yQpMk)

69 A truly great humor writer and editor. He shall be missed.

Posted by: direwolf at February 15, 2022 05:50 PM (BmTFY)

70 RIP Mr. O'Rourke

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 15, 2022 05:50 PM (lCui1)

71 I think I read about everything he wrote (save the last few years). I did not read "CEO of the Couch"

Parliament of Whores, Eat the Rich, Republican Party Reptile, Holidays in Hell, etc.

And a lot of his essays, when he used to write for Rolling Stone. "Revenge of the Euro-Weenies".

Born and grew up in Toledo. Had a weird childhood.

Went to Miami (Oxford, Ohio). Might have been there at the same time as my late friend's older brother (who was in ROTC and then went to Viet Nam).

Yeah, we all know he turned Left and endorsed Hillary. He hated Trump.
Still was a funny guy and wrote a lot of funny stuff.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at February 15, 2022 05:50 PM (vcOmj)

72 We have all his early works before he went lib. Holidays in Hell is a favorite.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2022 05:50 PM (ptqGC)

73 55 this is a darn tootin' big loss. We should get over his latest hillary nonsense. Kinda cool he was so instrumental in the early, old crazy days of National Lampoon. As well as Car and Driver.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 15, 2022 05:47 PM (ZZK0E)

Nah. You got to remember it all. Like George Carlin or Kurt Vonnegut. Sometimes they rot before they die.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at February 15, 2022 05:50 PM (XvPQV)

74 KAHN!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Max Power at February 15, 2022 05:51 PM (livMh)

75
If there's one thing the Uniparty loves, its a big ol' pointless, devastating, humiliating, and ultimately failed war for their personal and political enrichment. Down to the last man.

That's why any situation like the one in Ukraine leaves me so apprehensive. I'm just holding my breath, waiting for these crooked old gerontocrats to rasp out YOLO! once again.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 15, 2022 05:51 PM (CARG2)

76 >>>47 Why are so many people dying? Is it confirmation bias or are all cause deaths really up 40%?

cecil from comicsgate pointed out a year ago that now is when all of the big celebrities of 60s and 70s hit the common ages of dying. He predicted, accurately so far, that we're going to be seeing one death after another.

He was talking about rock and roll guys but it applies to anyone of the Boomer generation.

Posted by: ace at February 15, 2022 05:51 PM (0G13K)

77 I remember hearing him at Hillsdale college. He summed up the job of the white house press corps thusly: if the president says "fuck", or gets shot, make sure to capture it on film.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at February 15, 2022 05:51 PM (lWmKC)

78 He was talking about rock and roll guys but it applies to anyone of the Boomer generation.
Posted by: ace

Except politicians.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2022 05:52 PM (Hica+)

79 I wonder if PJ was involved in the 80s Nat Lampoon story The Utterly Monstrous, Mind-Roasting Summer of O.C. and Stiggs:

https://tinyurl.com/OC-and-Stiggs-Epic

That story was a lot of fun.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 05:52 PM (0g2Ck)

80 Why are so many people dying?

Boomers are a big group.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 15, 2022 05:52 PM (yQpMk)

81 Their "conservatism" was the "conservatism" of NeverTrump, which was just a sneering contempt for "the Lower Orders." - ace

Gotta run, but PJ's views and scathing satire on big issues, personalities, governments, etc were far from this, if you read his stuff for years back in the 80s/90s. There was some Will Rogers populism re guvamint, but he was a ferocious hilarious critic of most of the real bad guys of that era.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2022 05:52 PM (OTzUX)

82 It's that feeling you get when you hear that an old girlfriend died. The one you really liked and who was really clever and funny, but who dropped you as fast as she could when Biff from Kappa Delta Kappa smiled invited her to get drunk and gangbanged at the frat house.

I remember the girl she was, though, and she was funny and clever. But one good thing 50 years ago doesn't change betrayal, does it John McCain?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If we can coddle black people even MORE then they'll get better at February 15, 2022 05:52 PM (CM8Oa)

83 Is it confirmation bias or are all cause deaths really up 40%?
Posted by: Max Power at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (livMh)

Supposedly insurance industry says deaths are up 40% all ages.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 15, 2022 05:52 PM (lCui1)

84 I still don't understand how O'Rourke could write On The Wealth of Nations, which is an exposition on Adam Smith's treatise on capitalism, yet defend corporatism.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 15, 2022 05:52 PM (5kI0z)

85 Anyone who campaigned for Hillary Clinton is my enemy. Funny or not. And he was funny.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at February 15, 2022 05:52 PM (CqhDV)

86 I have all his books as well - the account of a guided trip into Russia for old American Lefties was an absolute hoot. I used to buy Rolling Stone just for his stories.
So sad that he went Never Trump, later on. His younger self, I think, would have raked his older self over the coals for that.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at February 15, 2022 05:53 PM (xnmPy)

87 My husband and I are losing a lot of good friends right now. Really great people dying too young. It's depressing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2022 05:53 PM (ptqGC)

88 I never read National Lampoon. It was basically MAD Magazine for teenagers, right?

Posted by: bonhomme at February 15, 2022 05:53 PM (8/9Tc)

89 if i'm being honest PJ O'Roarke was always a guy I more wanted to find funny than a guy I found funny.

i should get that Yearbook Parody on Kindle, though. Maybe I was too young for it before.

Posted by: ace at February 15, 2022 05:53 PM (0G13K)

90 Nah. You got to remember it all. Like George Carlin or Kurt Vonnegut. Sometimes they rot before they die.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at February 15, 2022 05:50 PM (XvPQV)

Vonnegut's a good example. Leftist through and through, but some damn fine writing, all the way to the end.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at February 15, 2022 05:53 PM (J3Ub3)

91 Crying shame, only "Famous Person" to come out of Toledo Ohio since Danny Thomas..'cept if you wanna count Klinger. He was a good friends cousin, saw him a few times at weddings and funerals. Always charming friendly , funny. Quick with the bitingly witty, take down of an idiot, leaving them thinking they had just received a compliment.

Posted by: birddog at February 15, 2022 05:53 PM (uAI4S)

92 He married a big lib and went nuts. Sad.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2022 05:54 PM (ptqGC)

93 I got to see PJ O'Rourke speak/do a bit in front of the Republican Study Committee's weekly lunch when I worked on the hill.

Laughed my ass off the entire time.

Posted by: ballistic at February 15, 2022 05:54 PM (oXNqT)

94 cecil from comicsgate pointed out a year ago that now is when all of the big celebrities of 60s and 70s hit the common ages of dying. He predicted, accurately so far, that we're going to be seeing one death after another.

He was talking about rock and roll guys but it applies to anyone of the Boomer generation.
Posted by: ace at February 15, 2022 05:51 PM (0G13K)

Yup, lost Dad and his brother within 6 months of each other, when they were in their early 80's. Just lost Mom, her Brother, and Her Sister's Husband is now on Hospice... late 80's and 90's.

It's just the age they are at.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 15, 2022 05:54 PM (oHd/0)

95 78 What, exactly is supposed to be funny about that yearbook parody? Seems like a colossal waste of time to me.
Posted by: Max at February 15, 2022 05:51 PM (+pVGA)

___

I ask the same of National Lampoon in general. I don't get it. Guess you had to be there type of thing.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 05:54 PM (OalnH)

96 >>>I never read National Lampoon. It was basically MAD Magazine for teenagers, right?

nah it was more for college-aged people and 20 somethings (and older)

Posted by: ace at February 15, 2022 05:54 PM (0G13K)

97 I think he took over as editor of National Lampoon when Doug Kenney died.

The National Lampoon was flat out hilarious but the first thing I turned to in each new issue was Mrs Agnew's Diary.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 15, 2022 05:54 PM (y7DUB)

98 Yeah, I ever read his stuff either.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 15, 2022 05:54 PM (o2MD2)

99 this is a darn tootin' big loss. We should get over his latest hillary nonsense. Kinda cool he was so instrumental in the early, old crazy days of National Lampoon. As well as Car and Driver.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 15, 2022 05:47 PM (ZZK0E)

Nah. You got to remember it all. Like George Carlin or Kurt Vonnegut. Sometimes they rot before they die.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Yeah. His vote canceled Tim's vote. How's that feel?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 15, 2022 05:54 PM (Hica+)

100 He was a real pioneer in the Circus industry.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 05:54 PM (KZFWs)

101
Boomers don't really have anything to do with it. The 40% all-cause mortality increase is in the 18 - 64 working age group. It's a 12-sigma event.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at February 15, 2022 05:55 PM (Mzdiz)

102 70s NatLamp was the best NatLamp.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 15, 2022 05:55 PM (W/MyG)

103 Some people become wiser as they age, some just get senile.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 15, 2022 05:55 PM (o2MD2)

104 Remington just settled gun suit with families in school shooting for 73 million

Time for those killed or injured in Waukesha to sue the vehicle manufacturer.

Posted by: Bruce

This is so fucking stupid. There is no way in Hell you lose this case at trial and don't win it on appeal, a gun being an inanimate object without mind-control abilities.

They just opened themselves up to being sued by every person killed with a Remington firearm for the last 20 years.

Idiots.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 05:55 PM (0g2Ck)

105 "Why are so many people dying?"

Keep traffic at manageable levels.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 05:56 PM (OalnH)

106 When the tactic arose of alleging a scandal against every Republican, I used to argue we should run P J for President. How can you play that against the author of How to Drive Fast on Drugs While Getting Your Wing-Wang Squeezed Without Spilling Your Drink?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 15, 2022 05:56 PM (R0Tis)

107 >>>102 70s NatLamp was the best NatLamp.

i only read it in the late eighties and early nineties. I did see the 70s stuff in a couple of best of volumes.

Posted by: ace at February 15, 2022 05:56 PM (0G13K)

108 at's because they don't set precedent, they are not appellate rulings, they apply to nothing but their own cases. But they provide plenty of fodder for people to lose their sh*t over - which is in the style book, Chapter 7: Ways A Moron Can Lose His Sh*t and Still Sound Profound.

Actually it sets a precedent, which other lawyers will follow, they got a settlement offer from Winchester, which means to pressure other manufacturers and their insurance companies. On the phone with a very good conservative lawyer, he agrees with me.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 05:56 PM (ZEHVO)

109 They just opened themselves up to being sued by every person killed with a Remington firearm for the last 20 years.

Idiots.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 05:55 PM (0g2Ck)

In fairness, they are bankrupt already and this tapped out their insurance. There is nothing left to get.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 15, 2022 05:56 PM (yQpMk)

110 Boomers don't really have anything to do with it. The 40% all-cause mortality increase is in the 18 - 64 working age group. It's a 12-sigma event.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz)

Yeah, you wonder what it could be?

A real head - scratcher, huh? What's happened in the last year that did this? Because Covid 19 really didn't move the needle much in 2020.

Hmmmm...........................

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at February 15, 2022 05:56 PM (vcOmj)

111 Well, crap. Was a huge fan.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at February 15, 2022 05:56 PM (MqQvv)

112 Sorry, Jane.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 05:57 PM (0g2Ck)

113 Was he responsible for that famous cover with the dog?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2022 05:57 PM (qoS2U)

114 47 Why are so many people dying? Is it confirmation bias or are all cause deaths really up 40%?
Posted by: Max Power at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (livMh)

We're just in a time when a lot of celebrities, politicians and media personalities that got famous during the era of television and mass media are getting damn old. It's not that more people are dying, it's just that we know who all these people dying are.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2022 05:57 PM (4thlk)

115 Looking at a bookcase, I see Age and Guile Beat Youth, Innocence and a Bad Hair Cut.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 15, 2022 05:57 PM (ptqGC)

116 I never read National Lampoon. It was basically MAD Magazine for teenagers, right?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 15, 2022 05:53 PM (8/9Tc)

I thought MAD Magazine was MAD Magazine for teenagers.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 15, 2022 05:57 PM (Ez6QX)

117 i still like the mag cover where they held a gun to a dog's head and said buy the magazine or we'll shoot this dog.

who knew. leftists projecting, even back then when he was funneh.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 15, 2022 05:58 PM (IJES/)

118 They just opened themselves up to being sued by every person killed with a Remington firearm for the last 20 years.

Idiots.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 05:55 PM (0g2Ck)

There's no more Remington to sue...it's now just a name brand someone bought to sell ammunition only...

Posted by: Nova local at February 15, 2022 05:58 PM (exHjb)

119 Hey Pixy! You're up early/late?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 15, 2022 05:58 PM (lCui1)

120 Hey Jordan.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 05:58 PM (1fakz)

121 I was so disappointed to see him on some lefty Australian TV show, I didn't like Trump and didn't think he would keep any of his promises but Voting for Hillary no F'n way. How many times did I hold my nose and vote, I voted for McCain and these asshole's couldn't

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 15, 2022 05:58 PM (dKiJG)

122
And these are death *rates*, deaths per population. This is not just a large absolute number of deaths because a particular cohort has large absolute number totals.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at February 15, 2022 05:58 PM (Mzdiz)

123 This just in: the owner of Fantasy Island just died.
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Abe Vigoda?

Posted by: Well at February 15, 2022 05:58 PM (7aYqw)

124 Hi SMH! Hope all is well with you.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 15, 2022 05:59 PM (Ez6QX)

125 I never read Mad Magazine or Nat. Lampoon. My refined tastes gravitated to the pink spread of Hustler.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 15, 2022 05:59 PM (o2MD2)

126 The guy was 74. That's pretty average for an American man to die. It's not like he was 37 and had a heart attack or something. And yeah as boomer celebrities start hitting their 70s, they're gonna start dying. It shouldn't be some great shock to anyone.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 05:59 PM (OalnH)

127 Publius, are you feeling better?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 15, 2022 05:59 PM (lCui1)

128 It's kind of incredible to consider that PJ Orourke supported spying on a sitting president by Hillary.

Or did he ever state otherwise regarding her emails and servers and what not?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - holy men warn what happens if you play Rogan podcasts backwards at February 15, 2022 05:59 PM (6lcd2)

129 Ruling by the Supreme Court basically said a firearm had to be defective in order to sue the manufacturer. Why in the hell would they settle? Did the plaintiffs come up with some new theory of legalleaze to make the firearms 'defective' ?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at February 15, 2022 06:00 PM (CqhDV)

130 Actually it sets a precedent, which other lawyers will follow, they got a settlement offer from Winchester, which means to pressure other manufacturers and their insurance companies. On the phone with a very good conservative lawyer, he agrees with me.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 05:56 PM (ZEHVO)

Do I think leftwing insurers worked with the leftwing bankruptcy accountants and made this happen? Yes. For that reason, it is bad b/c if Remington was a going concern, it would never have agreed to this b/c it would win in court. But it doesn't exist. And now, it will be more expensive for insurance or gun manufacturers may end up self insuring (like some faith groups do for healthcare)...

Posted by: Nova local at February 15, 2022 06:00 PM (exHjb)

131 His essay on the Peace trip down the Volga is pure gold.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 15, 2022 06:00 PM (R0Tis)

132 Hi SMH! Hope all is well with you.
Posted by: Jordan61
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We're doing fine. : )

How are you doing?

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 06:00 PM (1fakz)

133 Uh oh, Pixy-misa is having to put out a server dumpster fire?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2022 06:00 PM (qoS2U)

134 I enjoyed his work, and I was very sad to see him sell out.

It is impossible to reconcile his Republican Party Reptile line in the 80s with being Never Trump.

Trump was essentially a Reptile - he checked all the boxes - rapacious capitalist, insatiable womanizer who dated whole calendars of playmates and arguably his only fault was he didn't smoke, drink or do drugs.

To write what he did and then clutch pearls over Trump was the apogee of hypocrisy.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2022 06:00 PM (llXky)

135 RIP PJ. Brilliant polemicist. Wrote with a baseball bat instead of a pen.

Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at February 15, 2022 06:00 PM (qpX6U)

136 > This is so fucking stupid. There is no way in Hell you lose this case at trial and don't win it on appeal, a gun being an inanimate object without mind-control abilities.

Remington has been terrible for at least a decade now. Their QA is awful. Brand new barrels are often out of spec and rusty. I helped a buddy troubleshoot a feed issue with his brand new Remington Model 700. The feed ramp area had a 1/8 inch burr on it!

Posted by: bonhomme at February 15, 2022 06:00 PM (8/9Tc)

137 There's no more Remington to sue...it's now just a name brand someone bought to sell ammunition only...

Posted by: Nova local

Guarantee they will find out who the shareholders of Remington the firearms company were and go after each and every one of them to try to establish liability for those people. And of course all the company officers over the last 20 years.

See, when you create an insane precedent like this, it absolutely certain that unscrupulous attorneys who have the support of a corrupt judicial system will start throwing the most insane ideas possible at the wall to see what sticks. The way they did with this lawsuit, and it worked.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 06:01 PM (0g2Ck)

138 VDH hasn't sold out. It's weird. The blue collar guy that runs a farm has perspective and practicality while the stuffed shirts always seem to fail at the end (Will, O'Rourke, probably Buckley).

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue One at February 15, 2022 06:01 PM (i9h5w)

139 Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 05:56 PM (ZEHVO)

Not a legal precedent, not a precedent a court is obliged to follow, which is the important precedent. Whether another lawyer wants to sue is another matter altogether and is not in the legal meaning of "precedent".

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Feed Your Rage Energy Drinks 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at February 15, 2022 06:01 PM (5mjFm)

140 His early satire was funny AF and he could write coherently, it sucked that he went all in for communism which disappointed me greatly.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at February 15, 2022 06:01 PM (qZdIZ)

141 I discovered him through NatLamp and classics like "How to Drive Drunk on Drugs..." and then rediscovered him through an article on cocaine in Rolling Stone, where he kept coming up with clever metaphors like "Bolivian Marching Powder" and "devil's dandruff." I liked his comedic style.

Went on to read pretty much all his books. "Republican Party Reptile" "Age and Guile..." all of 'em.

Holidays in Hell is my all-time favorite. I quote that one in particular constantly.

His latter-day NeverTrump-ism really pissed me off as he had always been one of my favorites.

RIP, P.J.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 15, 2022 06:02 PM (njfCw)

142 Trump was what PJ always pretended to be. That was what probably made him mad.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - holy men warn what happens if you play Rogan podcasts backwards at February 15, 2022 06:02 PM (6lcd2)

143 I hope no one is speaking ill of the dead. If you do it tells more about you than the deceased

Posted by: Regular joe at February 15, 2022 06:02 PM (nnp+f)

144 Ruling by the Supreme Court basically said a firearm had to be defective in order to sue the manufacturer. Why in the hell would they settle? Did the plaintiffs come up with some new theory of legalleaze to make the firearms 'defective' ?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at February 15, 2022 06:00 PM (CqhDV)
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Remington was already bankrupt and had been dismembered. The company was closing out the case.

My parents got sued when a super-drunk crashed his snowmobile on their ice shanty. He was obviously at fault, but it was cheaper for the insurance company to pay than fight the lawsuit.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2022 06:02 PM (llXky)

145 Don't forget- the US government is helping Mexico sue gun manufacturers.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:02 PM (KZFWs)

146 "Covid?"

The Jab?

Posted by: Ju at February 15, 2022 06:02 PM (aTmM/)

147 I never did O'Rourke's Trump hate, you would think a blunt talking New Yorker would be right up his alley. I think he bought into the media narrative Trump is a buffoon.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2022 06:03 PM (4thlk)

148 Also: Good to see you, publius.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - holy men warn what happens if you play Rogan podcasts backwards at February 15, 2022 06:03 PM (6lcd2)

149 Read everyone talking of PJ but not sure who he was.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2022 06:03 PM (2JoB8)

150 > I thought MAD Magazine was MAD Magazine for teenagers.

I always saw pre-teens and early teenagers reading MAD. Based on what little I've seen of National Lampoon, it looked like it was aimed at mid to late teenagers.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 15, 2022 06:03 PM (8/9Tc)

151 Wrote with a baseball bat instead of a pen.

The baseball bat is mightier than the sword.

Posted by: Bosk at February 15, 2022 06:03 PM (x6uUk)

152 How are you doing?
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 06:00 PM (1fakz)

Pretty good. Finally warming up a little over here.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 15, 2022 06:03 PM (Ez6QX)

153 I blame Roberts as he allowed this suit to go forward even in light of their previous ruling.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at February 15, 2022 06:03 PM (CqhDV)

154
Here an Epoch Times article on that increase in mortality:

https://tinyurl.com/56t7ks57

The biggest increase in mortality rates was in the 30 - 39 year old cohort. 45% increase there.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at February 15, 2022 06:03 PM (Mzdiz)

155 423 Hey LCD. : )

How are you doing?
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 05:38 PM (1fakz)

Doing fine, thanks for asking.

Reading the headlines of the past couple of days, I may have to borrow your nic for a while.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 15, 2022 06:03 PM (sy5kK)

156 "I never read National Lampoon. It was basically MAD Magazine for teenagers, right?"

It was funnier, and far far more daring. I worshipped those guys back then.

Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at February 15, 2022 06:04 PM (qpX6U)

157 143 I hope no one is speaking ill of the dead. If you do it tells more about you than the deceased
Posted by: Regular joe at February 15, 2022 06:02 PM (nnp+f)

Oh jeeze scoldjoe, now ah feelz turrable. Cuz ah said sompthin bad bout chairman Mao.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 15, 2022 06:04 PM (o2MD2)

158 Checked my retirement accounts.

Seems like the FJB years are leaving the same bad aftertaste as the TFG years.

Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at February 15, 2022 06:04 PM (aoFfE)

159 I saw a Father's Day show on Cspan years ago that had PJ O'Rourke, Dave Barry and Tucker Carlson. O'Rourke and Barry were humorous but Tucker was hilarious.

Posted by: huerfano at February 15, 2022 06:04 PM (MzKgG)

160 >>>He got more liberal and establishment in later years but he was an amusingly contrarian rogue before that.

Agreed. Hard to overlook that he voted for HRC, but Parliament of Whores is a classic.

Posted by: No Name Today at February 15, 2022 06:04 PM (vlXMQ)

161 They have established a successful line of attack, despite the law that removes responsibility from gun manufacturers for evil doer's action. If I held stock in that insurance company I'd sue them for abandoning their fiduciary responsibility.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 06:04 PM (ZEHVO)

162 MAD Magazine you could leave on your nightstand. NatLamp you hid under your matress.

It had boobies in it. Not all of them cartoon either.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 15, 2022 06:05 PM (njfCw)

163 Why are so many people dying? Is it confirmation bias or are all cause deaths really up 40%?
Posted by: Max Power

Boomers Last Rodeo.

Spoken as a Boomer.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 15, 2022 06:05 PM (WmGrA)

164 Many insurers are leaving "dirty" industries behind in order to up ESG scores. They'll probably try to pass the losses up to reinsurers and use the loss as a reason to exit the business of covering gun manufacturers.

Posted by: OPP at February 15, 2022 06:05 PM (yVPr3)

165 How invested is BlackRock in gun and ammo companies? Are they putting people on the board to destroy the company from within like they are doing with exxon?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:05 PM (KZFWs)

166 I hope no one is speaking ill of the dead. If you do it tells more about you than the deceased
Posted by: Regular joe

**

We're waiting on McCain's funeral to end first.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If we can coddle black people even MORE then they'll get better at February 15, 2022 06:05 PM (CM8Oa)

167 Reading the headlines of the past couple of days, I may have to borrow your nic for a while.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
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lol

We are living in trying times, but God is in control, contrary to what anyone says.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 06:05 PM (1fakz)

168 They have established a successful line of attack, despite the law that removes responsibility from gun manufacturers for evil doer's action. If I held stock in that insurance company I'd sue them for abandoning their fiduciary responsibility.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 06:04 PM (ZEHVO)
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How was it successful?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2022 06:06 PM (llXky)

169
My parents got sued when a super-drunk crashed his snowmobile on their ice shanty. He was obviously at fault, but it was cheaper for the insurance company to pay than fight the lawsuit.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2022 06:02 PM

the obvious life lesson is never live anywhere snowmobiles or ice shanties are common

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 15, 2022 06:06 PM (DUIap)

170 PJ who?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at February 15, 2022 06:06 PM (jxmu6)

171 Trudeau argues he needs special, emergency powers to ... enforce the law.

https://bit.ly/3oUwQ7J

Posted by: bonhomme at February 15, 2022 06:06 PM (8/9Tc)

172 Boy, that Epstein sure was a swell guy, huh?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If we can coddle black people even MORE then they'll get better at February 15, 2022 06:06 PM (CM8Oa)

173
Thanks all. I am fine. I had a "hypertensive urgency" episode. BP just shot up again. They were worried about stroke or TIA but everything checked out. MRIs, CTs, echocardiograms, etc, etc. It was cool to see an image of my mitral valve opening and closing in real time. And Doppler flow pretty pictures show the blood-flow field inside my heart as it pumped.

Then popped positive on a Coof test. Basically, I was completely asymptomatic. It was less than a head cold maybe. Sinuses were sort of acting up. Again, I wouldn't have thought anything about it otherwise.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at February 15, 2022 06:07 PM (Mzdiz)

174 PJ O'Rourke was a heavy smoker and died of lung cancer. Alan Rose was another talented writer for for the Lampoon who died from smoking while still in his sixties. Doug Kenney committed suicide. These guys shone so brightly but burned out too soon.

Posted by: Victoria at February 15, 2022 06:07 PM (qkdUx)

175 I have no desire to go back and read any old National Lampoons. I'm sure the humor would be disappointing to me now.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 15, 2022 06:07 PM (4thlk)

176 165 How invested is BlackRock in gun and ammo companies? Are they putting people on the board to destroy the company from within like they are doing with exxon?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:05 PM (KZFWs)

There's a lot of speculation about Vista Outdoors, which owns most US ammo mfg and a lot of gun makers. Dunno.

I don't think they're into Olin, which is the other big Megacorp that owns the other half of the market.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at February 15, 2022 06:07 PM (XvPQV)

177 3) rickb233. He was more than just a talented writer. His books changed a lot of minds and gave ammo to conservatives when the culture was against them. I guess he can be compared to Goldwater on a lesser level.

Their best work was while advancing conservatism. The later years were not productive, imaginative, or helpful to the cause they championed. Their choice in the end. O'rourke made an impact back in the day.

Posted by: Quint at February 15, 2022 06:07 PM (WhkEA)

178 O'Rourke hasn't been seen as much lately but he was an excellent writer and editor back in day.

Like Wm. F. Buckley he certainly influenced me as a young reader (keeping in mind the world was very different then).

His books and the National Lampoon were hilarious and well written, and he was always informative and a happy warrior.

RIP

Posted by: Blacksheep at February 15, 2022 06:07 PM (6mvRv)

179 "Doug Kenney committed suicide."

I thought it was an accidental fall from a Kauai cliff.

Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at February 15, 2022 06:08 PM (qpX6U)

180 National Lapoon did a vicious take down of Mad with a cover featuring Alfred E. Newman saying, "What, Me Funny?"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stupid Son of a Bitch at February 15, 2022 06:08 PM (FVME7)

181 PJ who?

*

Wrote for Car and Driver. Funny but no Peter Egan.

Endorsed Hillary.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If we can coddle black people even MORE then they'll get better at February 15, 2022 06:08 PM (CM8Oa)

182 143 I hope no one is speaking ill of the dead. If you do it tells more about you than the deceased

Posted by: Regular joe at February 15, 2022 06:02 PM (nnp+f)

++++

The rules are different for public figures. Ted Kennedy was a drunken buffoon. And that's looking on his good side.

Posted by: No Name Today at February 15, 2022 06:09 PM (vlXMQ)

183 Boomers Last Rodeo.

Spoken as a Boomer.

No, the increase is in the 18-49 age group. I suspect the Vaccines.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 06:09 PM (ZEHVO)

184 "..P.J. O'Rourke wrote with a baseball bat." That's a good summation, right there.

To be followed with: "..Insomniac writes with a Tire Iron, and it slices like a hammer!"

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 15, 2022 06:09 PM (QzJWU)

185 Vista is the one who bought Remington ammo. And said they bought it for the name, not to produce more ammo.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:09 PM (KZFWs)

186 Dunno what they are, but they're not vaccines.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 06:09 PM (1fakz)

187 He signed my copy of "Parliament of Whores" in 1981.
Too bad he became one later in life.

Posted by: vivi at February 15, 2022 06:10 PM (33kEg)

188 Gene therapeutics, maybe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 15, 2022 06:10 PM (eN2PK)

189 His books and the National Lampoon were hilarious and well written, and he was always informative and a happy warrior.

RIP

Posted by: Blacksheep at February 15, 2022 06:07 PM (6mvRv)
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It's sad when you see someone with obvious talent go into decline.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2022 06:10 PM (llXky)

190 Hey Jim. : )

You doing okay?

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 06:10 PM (1fakz)

191 My favorite National Lampoon cover, from 1973, had a black and white dog, with a pistol pointed at it's head and the eyes turned towards it, with the headline:

"If You Don't Buy this Magazine, We'll Kill this Dog".

https://tinyurl.com/2rc5ep7n

It's the dog's eyes that make it legendary.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 15, 2022 06:10 PM (sy5kK)

192 Not sure of the title but it was about him in a tour group of Russia. Really enjoyed it. Very funny. Have read a few other things by him but read so much I can't remember titles. RIP

Posted by: AlmostYuman at February 15, 2022 06:11 PM (ZhGD+)

193 Who is going to take over PJ media?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:11 PM (KZFWs)

194 187 He signed my copy of "Parliament of Whores" in 1981.
Too bad he became one later in life.
Posted by: vivi at February 15, 2022 06:10 PM (33kEg)

The Dark Knight quote seems to fit all the time.

'Die a hero- or live long enough to become the villain.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 15, 2022 06:11 PM (eN2PK)

195 In the very early days, I enjoyed P.J. O'Rourke's work.

I lost interest after he died in that car wreck and was replaced by a like-a-look.

Posted by: mindful webworker - national poltroon? at February 15, 2022 06:11 PM (d6PIl)

196 Gp's Dark Acceleration: Kenney's yeah was ruled as accident but it was wildly believed he committed suicide

Harold Ramis who co-wrote "Animal House" with Kenney said, " Doug probably fell while he was looking for a place to jump."

Posted by: Victoria at February 15, 2022 06:12 PM (qkdUx)

197 173
Thanks all. I am fine. I had a "hypertensive urgency" episode. BP just shot up again. They were worried about stroke or TIA but everything checked out.

***

BP can be such a temperamental b**ch. Hope your meds get it under control.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 15, 2022 06:12 PM (lCui1)

198 Canada to Ease Travel Requirements on Feb. 28: Health Minister

Quebec Announces Plan to End Vaccine Passport

Hold the line Truckers.
Not enough.

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 15, 2022 06:12 PM (+FfPP)

199 Vista is the one who bought Remington ammo. And said they bought it for the name, not to produce more ammo.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:09 PM (KZFWs)
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Where do you get this information??? Remington is running at capacity and its products are hitting the stores in quantity.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2022 06:12 PM (llXky)

200 1/2 In Tribute to PJ, at the top of his Game. From "Among the Euro-Weenies"

"...Eventually he got, as the Europeans always do, to the part about
"Your country's never been invaded." ... "You don't know the horror, the suffering. You think war is..."

I snapped. "A John Wayne movie," I said. "That's what you were going to say, wasn't it? We think war is a John Wayne movie. We think life is a John Wayne movie - with good guys and bad guys, as simple as that. Well, you know something, Mister Limey Poofter? You're right. And let me tell you who the bad guys are.

They're us. WE BE BAD.

"We're the baddest-assed sons of bitches that ever jogged in Reeboks. We're three-quarters grizzly bear and two-thirds car wreck and descended
from a stock-market crash on our mother's side. You take your Germany, France, Spain, roll them all together and it wouldn't give us room to park our cars.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 15, 2022 06:12 PM (njfCw)

201

He was part of my upbringing, fortunately...not in person, but just from reading his funny words. Then it all fell apart, the libertarians turned commie and Liberty magazine got really weird, weirder, Harry Browne was exposed to me as a fraud, should have seen that coming.

And here we are, Canada going insane, and we have puddinhead running the US.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at February 15, 2022 06:12 PM (XnbJC)

202 @165 Cat Ass Trophy-Don't know if they've purchased gun and ammo companies but they have purchased a popular French perfume/cologne company Creed a year and a half ago. They seem to be interested in gobbling up everything.

Posted by: JROD at February 15, 2022 06:12 PM (0jZnq)

203 I have never read anything by O'Rurke.

Posted by: kraken at February 15, 2022 06:12 PM (Vr12I)

204 2/2 In Tribute to PJ, at the top of his Game. From "Among the Euro-Weenies"

We're the big boys, Jack, the original, giant, economy-sized, new and improved butt kickers of all time. When we snort coke in Houston, people lose their hats in the Cap d'Antibes. And we've got an American Express card credit limit higher than your piss-ant metric numbers go.

"You say our country's never been invaded? You're right, little buddy. Because I'd like to see the needle-dicked foreigners who'd have the guts to try. We drink napalm to get out hearts started in the morning. A rape and a mugging is our way of saying 'Cheerio.' Hell can't hold our sock-hops. We walk taller, talk louder, spit further, fcuk longer, and buy more things than you know the names of. I'd rather be a junkie in New York than king, queen, and jack of all you Europeans. We eat little countries like this for breakfast and shit them out before lunch."

Of course, the guy should have punched me. But this was Europe. He
just smiled his shabby, superior European smile.

God, don't these people have dentists?"

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 15, 2022 06:13 PM (njfCw)

205 Awesome yearbook - already found Vernon Wormer and Larry Kroger...

Posted by: apb at February 15, 2022 06:13 PM (aFPqY)

206 162 MAD Magazine you could leave on your nightstand. NatLamp you hid under your matress.

It had boobies in it. Not all of them cartoon either.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 15, 2022 06:05 PM (njfCw)
__________

PJ was often in the boobs pics, too. They liked to have a guy saying something pointless, knowing no one cared about him.

To those who don't recall those days, it was a big part of the 70s (which actually started in the late 60s). Like Python, Firesign Theater, underground comix. And weed. (Though really, alcohol was always the #1 drug.)

Oh, yeah, and the belief we discovered sex. It is true it was the era between the rise of the pill, and the appearance of STDs.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 15, 2022 06:13 PM (R0Tis)

207 The baseball bat is mightier than the sword.
Posted by: Bosk at February 15, 2022 06:03 PM (x6uUk)

Enthusiasms ... enthusiasms ..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 15, 2022 06:13 PM (yQpMk)

208 "Canada to Ease Travel Requirements on Feb. 28: Health Minister
Quebec Announces Plan to End Vaccine Passport
Hold the line Truckers.
Not enough."

Justine's resignation comes to mind.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 15, 2022 06:14 PM (WmGrA)

209 How was it successful?

They got a 33 million offer from Remington, and settled for 73 million instead. I'd call that successful.

Put yourself in a gun manufacturers shoes, and tell me they are comfortable with that precedent.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 06:14 PM (ZEHVO)

210 As a much younger person, I enjoyed PJ's writings, and have owned most of his books.

I will remember that period of my life with fondness.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at February 15, 2022 06:14 PM (3D/fK)

211 Story on the TV about an armed robber suspect who fired at a cop. Cop fired back, 17 rounds. Hit suspect 3 times in the legs. On video. Seventeen takes a while to shoot. I think my finger would have gotten tired.

Posted by: Javems at February 15, 2022 06:14 PM (AmoqO)

212 Justine's resignation comes to mind.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 15, 2022 06:14 PM (WmGrA)

today is the first day I thought there might be some kind of parliamentary action against him - the PM's are not happy with him

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 15, 2022 06:15 PM (+FfPP)

213

SMH! Yeah, sis, doin' well enough down here on the way-too-chilly Texas Gulf Coast.

Hope you n' Ex-squared are snug n' warm through the winter months there?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 15, 2022 06:15 PM (QzJWU)

214 143 I hope no one is speaking ill of the dead. If you do it tells more about you than the deceased

Posted by: Regular joe at February 15, 2022 06:02 PM (nnp+f)

____

So that Hitler guy who's dead....we only say nice things?

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:15 PM (OalnH)

215 Justine's resignation comes to mind.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 15, 2022 06:14 PM (WmGrA)
They need to hold out for suicide.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 15, 2022 06:15 PM (o2MD2)

216 Where do you get this information??? Remington is running at capacity and its products are hitting the stores in quantity.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

They are producing ammo under the Remington brand, but the CFO said a couple months ago that they only bought Remington to increase their quota of ammo produced. Implying that there is a set production quota between them and Olin. They want the supply to be limited because it keeps the price high and boosts the profit margin.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:15 PM (KZFWs)

217 Another fucking RINO uncovered. Jim Banks (R-IN)
They're like weasels.

Posted by: Capital Eff at February 15, 2022 06:16 PM (GYllL)

218 179 "Doug Kenney committed suicide."

I thought it was an accidental fall from a Kauai cliff.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at February 15, 2022 06:08 PM (qpX6U)

The joke was that he slipped looking for a better place to jump.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at February 15, 2022 06:16 PM (J3Ub3)

219
I still laugh about his attribution of the problem to "Joe Boatfoot and Mary Dumbtoes" from the "unexplained" sudden acceleration syndrome in Audis back in the day.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 15, 2022 06:16 PM (O98j8)

220 Oh, yeah, and the belief we discovered sex. It is true it was the era between the rise of the pill, and the appearance of STDs.
Posted by: Eeyore

Ah yes, the era when lots of sex wouldn't kill you.

Le sigh.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 15, 2022 06:16 PM (Msys3)

221 They got a 33 million offer from Remington, and settled for 73 million instead. I'd call that successful.

Put yourself in a gun manufacturers shoes, and tell me they are comfortable with that precedent.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 06:14 PM (ZEHVO)
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Remington was a dying company, though. You get that, right? Ruger or Walther would fight to the death. Remington was already going under due to mismanagement.

It sucks, but I'm sick of sucking down doom and gloom. I can get that from looking at gas prices.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2022 06:16 PM (llXky)

222 Trudeau receives worldwide condemnation.

Posted by: Capital Eff at February 15, 2022 06:17 PM (GYllL)

223 >> Hope your meds get it under control.

It is now. Back down to the 130/80 and less range now.

Something is causing a loss of BP control looks like. The question is what. I've got RA, of course, and of late I've noticed some symptoms of Sjorgren's. That happens a lot secondary to RA, Lupus, and other autoimmune diseases.

Vascular involvement occurs with that. Also, I've been taking NSAIDs of one form or another for 20 years or better. They can cause BP problems long term. I've been taking as little of those as I can stand of late.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at February 15, 2022 06:18 PM (Mzdiz)

224 Canada to Ease Travel Requirements on Feb. 28

____

LOL. They're not easing shit. You still need to be vaxxed to enter the country. Only easing vaccinated visitors will be able to enter with a negative rapid antigen test instead of a molecular PCR test.

WOW!!!

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:18 PM (OalnH)

225 They are producing ammo under the Remington brand, but the CFO said a couple months ago that they only bought Remington to increase their quota of ammo produced. Implying that there is a set production quota between them and Olin. They want the supply to be limited because it keeps the price high and boosts the profit margin.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:15 PM (KZFWs)
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Oh, wait, you're the Zero Hedge guy, aren't you? Remember how they predicted war with Iran through eight years of Obama?

Go look at ammo prices. What are they doing?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2022 06:18 PM (llXky)

226 Boomers Last Rodeo.

Spoken as a Boomer.

No, the increase is in the 18-49 age group. I suspect the Vaccines.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 06:09 PM (ZEHVO)

and the Fentanyl.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 15, 2022 06:18 PM (yQpMk)

227 I'm sad. Hubbysharn and I went to see him do a reading from Eat the Rich. We also took a stack of earlier books of his which he graciously signed. The world is a bit sadder and grayer.

Posted by: Rosasharn at February 15, 2022 06:18 PM (PzBTm)

228 Remington was already bankrupt and had been dismembered. The company was closing out the case.

My parents got sued when a super-drunk crashed his snowmobile on their ice shanty. He was obviously at fault, but it was cheaper for the insurance company to pay than fight the lawsuit.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

So if Remington is out of business, bankrupt and dismantled, and the insurance company agreed to and pays out this settlement, that means that it doesn't matter if Remington is all those things I just typed, since now the insurance company will now be defending suits by for every single person killed with a Remington firearm while Remington was insured.

Because that's how insurance works, even after a company goes tits up.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 06:19 PM (0g2Ck)

229 The lawyers went after Remington's advertising, claiming it incited violence. Same crap can be used against other manufacturers.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 06:19 PM (ZEHVO)

230 > Remington was a dying company, though.
____________
The real value was in their ammo manufacturing infrastructure. The firearms where almost secondary.

Full disclosure... I own a Remington 970. Lightly modded.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 15, 2022 06:19 PM (BFigT)

231 They need to hold out for suicide.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

Have bedsheets, will travel.

Posted by: Hillary's Dispatch Service at February 15, 2022 06:19 PM (WmGrA)

232 Mikey NTH, after studying the restored B-26K "Special Kay" and period photos of the cockpit, oi the ICM pit really needs an Eduard redo.

The master armament panel is an indistinct shape atop the instrument panel. Decal sheet does not have the very obvious emergency engine shut-offs that are just under the master armament panel. Decal sheet and plastic instrument panel is missing at least two round instruments on the pilot's side.

ICM merely made a second A-26 control wheel when the K has two distinct control wheels. No glass for the pilot's gunsight. The circuit breaker panel located at the pilot's knee is represented by a series of lines instead of distinct rows of buttons. Center console is missing all the levers for things like throttles and flaps plus the three very visible red variable switches.

The light gray quilted padding that covers the co-pilot's side and works its way behind both seats to end at the pilot's shoulder is missing. This even extends to the canopy frames behind the pilots.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2022 06:19 PM (qoS2U)

233 Russian troops withdrawn from Ukrainian build up. Brandon has saved the world! Tcth.....

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at February 15, 2022 06:19 PM (0OmEj)

234 I grew up reading lampoon and PJ is one of my lifelong heroes. This is a sad day indeed.

Posted by: Happy at February 15, 2022 06:20 PM (JQHM1)

235 Put yourself in a gun manufacturers shoes, and tell me they are comfortable with that precedent.

We're going back to the old days - when no less than Bill Ruger guided company policy to not make anything more than a ten round magazine. This settlement stinks to high heavens. Look - Remington is bankrupt. This is a bunch of insurance companies doing a settlement.

Would various corporate insurers agree to split the difference on a ridiculous settlement, to sway public policy ? Why yes. Yes they would.

Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 15, 2022 06:20 PM (AFiGj)

236 Imagine the U.S. right now with the pre-planned COVID psy-op hitting with Hillary as president instead of Trump.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If we can coddle black people even MORE then they'll get better at February 15, 2022 06:20 PM (CM8Oa)

237 It is true it was the era between the rise of the pill, and the appearance of STDs.

Bliss it was in that dawn to be alive but to be young was very heaven.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 15, 2022 06:20 PM (yQpMk)

238 222 Trudeau receives worldwide condemnation.
Posted by: Capital Eff at February 15, 2022 06:17 PM (GYllL)

He fucking should. We should be talking about *types *deletes* and saying OUCH, he didn't deserve THAT. Sure, *types* *deletes* a man fine, but not *types* *deletes*.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 15, 2022 06:20 PM (eN2PK)

239 It was in the sixties here today. Tomorrow? Ice and snow. Missouri is schizophrenic.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 15, 2022 06:20 PM (eA1RV)

240 Laura Vozzella@LVozzella.@WinsomeSears gaveled Virginia Senate to order with high-heeled patent leather pump after an unknown prankster hid her gavel. She took the trick in stride: "One shoe can change your life. Just ask Cinderella."

That's ra- nevermind.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:20 PM (KZFWs)

241 Aww man I was promised a Euro war by the MSM and conservatives freaking out about shit. Bummer.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:21 PM (OalnH)

242 @199 - This is true. I worked on the IP side of their bankruptcy aftermath, and their brands were sold off to pay reduced debt.

Those products are still branded as Remington (and their affiliated brands ... like most companies the appeared to compete against their parent brand with lesser brands to create market entry impediments).

The ammo was the valuable piece ... Remington firearms aren't sexy anymore and people don't fish like they used to.

Their bankruptcy was public record in the courts and in the media.

Posted by: Blacksheep at February 15, 2022 06:21 PM (6mvRv)

243 Still have the National Lampoon Hiigh School Yearbook. Also the Sunday Newspaper parody.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at February 15, 2022 06:21 PM (Ls8iZ)

244
Oh, yeah, and the belief we discovered sex. It is true it was the era between the rise of the pill, and the appearance of STDs.
Posted by: Eeyore

An American research team reported that it has possibly cured HIV in a woman for the first time. Building on past successes, as well as failures, in the HIV-cure research field, these scientists used a cutting-edge stem cell transplant method that they expect will expand the pool of people who could receive similar treatment to several dozen annually.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2022 06:21 PM (63Dwl)

245 Had to laugh at one of the Canadian premiers, going, "we're dropping the mask mandates. Except for sporting events. And theaters. And concerts. And restaurants. And public transport. And this thing and that thing and that other thing." I suspect a whole lot of phony promises coming.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 15, 2022 06:21 PM (njfCw)

246 Imagine the U.S. right now with the pre-planned COVID psy-op hitting with Hillary as president instead of Trump.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If we can coddle black people
even MORE then they'll get better

Except if Hillary had been president, nobody would ever have heard about Covid. Which was the entire point of Covid.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 06:21 PM (0g2Ck)

247 Remington was a dying company, though. You get that, right? Ruger or Walther would fight to the death. Remington was already going under due to mismanagement.

It sucks, but I'm sick of sucking down doom and gloom. I can get that from looking at gas prices.

Agreed. Gun rights are one actual positive in the Era of Brandon. The 2A could be judged stronger than ever judging by sales and even more so by who is doing the buying.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue One at February 15, 2022 06:21 PM (i9h5w)

248 Vascular involvement occurs with that. Also, I've been taking NSAIDs of one form or another for 20 years or better. They can cause BP problems long term. I've been taking as little of those as I can stand of late.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz)

Ask your doc about L-Arginine

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 15, 2022 06:21 PM (WmGrA)

249 Very sorry to hear this, despite his straying into NeverTrump Land. His prose was truly excellent, his wit was keen and cutting. Damn funny and insightful was what he was. I loved just about everything he ever wrote. I was fortunate enough to meet him once. It was at one of his book signings. I was a young attorney working in downtown Manhattan. There was a Waldenbooks or some other chain in the building and he was there signing copies of "Driving Like Crazy" I believe. I came down well after lunch and the event, not exactly well attended (as "conservative writers" were not "in demand in NYC at the time, or now, for that matter), was almost done. I was last on line and when I got up to the table he asked my name and signed and I asked him how he was doing. He looked at me and said " pretty" good, what's your story?" We started to chat for a minute and then I offered that I should leave so he could get on with his book signing and he looked around and said" what the hell, no one's here, you want some coffee?" He had one of the store folks bring over some coffee and we had an honest to God discussion for about 30 minutes. Truly a nice human being. RIP PJ. You are missed

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 15, 2022 06:21 PM (CmnNv)

250 PJ O'Rourke was a heavy smoker and died of lung cancer. Alan Rose was another talented writer for for the Lampoon who died from smoking while still in his sixties. Doug Kenney committed suicide. These guys shone so brightly but burned out too soon.
Posted by: Victoria at February 15, 2022 06:07 PM (qkdUx)

----

The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long.
- Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 15, 2022 06:21 PM (siyim)

251 The lawyers went after Remington's advertising, claiming it incited violence. Same crap can be used against other manufacturers.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 06:19 PM (ZEHVO)

Weak weak weak. Again there has to be an actual defect. The bankruptcy lawyers and defense lawyers gave it away.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (CqhDV)

252 So serious question, because 2016 and the Hillary endorsement throws everything into doubt for me (my eyes have been opened to a lot of this kind of thing over the last few years):

Did PJ ever really believe anything he wrote, or was it just a market to fill?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If we can coddle black people even MORE then they'll get better at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (CM8Oa)

253 >>He fucking should. We should be talking about *types *deletes* and saying OUCH, he didn't deserve THAT. Sure, *types* *deletes* a man fine, but not *types* *deletes*.

El Salvador's President said Canada no longer has any moral high ground. You opinions concerning democracy is ZERO. Fucking El Salvador.

Posted by: Capital Eff at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (GYllL)

254 PJ had a fairly young wife. I was at a forum with him and Michelle Malkin about 12 years ago and he came in late with a newborn on his shoulder carrying a baby bag with a young wife in tow. Young kids can be hard on old men, I've found.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (l6b3d)

255 So that Hitler guy who's dead....we only say nice things?
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant

He never preached about vegetarianism.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stupid Son of a Bitch at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (FVME7)

256 In my mental map, P J O'Rourke and Dave Barry have the same, or nearly the same, hash value. When one of them comes up in conversation, I have to consciously think about which is which before I say anything.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (aqH/b)

257 And then it's gonna warmup again Duke. So, crazy weather - stay away Lefties!

Posted by: kraken at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (Vr12I)

258
It's going to be clear and undeniable that our response to Covid has killed far more people than Covid itself did.

The lockdowns and shutdowns were deadly.

This is crime against humanity level stuff here.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (Mzdiz)

259 Hope you n' Ex-squared are snug n' warm through the winter months there?
___

We are, Jim. Actually got up to 60 today.

Kraken, don't feel bad, I never read anything of his either.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (1fakz)

260 I interviewed PJ O'Rourke in the early 1990s as an inexperienced, untested journalism student. He could not have been more gracious with his time and was funnier and more irreverent about life and politics in real life than he was in print. A huge loss for real journalism and great writing in America. RIP.

Posted by: FloridaWordsmith at February 15, 2022 06:23 PM (bafFk)

261 An animation of Baldwin shooting Halyna Hutchins, which was commissioned by Hutchins' family, shows Halyna well to the side of the camera.

One of the arguments for treating this like an accident was that Baldwin was asked to point the weapon at the camera, and Halyna was behind the camera.

If the animation is accurate, Baldwin aimed at least 30 degrees to the left of the camera to hit Halyna.

https://bit.ly/3oQQBNF

Yes, I know, all guns are loaded and all that. I'm addressing the specific claim that Baldwin was only doing what he was told for a specific camera shot, with the gun pointed at the camera.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 15, 2022 06:23 PM (8/9Tc)

262 Except if Hillary had been president, nobody would ever have heard about Covid. Which was the entire point of Covid.
Posted by: Sharkman

*

I disagree. COVID was happening regardless. The WEF had that Great Reset planned for decades.

I think if PJ's candidate had won we'd be looking a lot more totalitarian right now. And we're already looking pretty damn totalitarian.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If we can coddle black people even MORE then they'll get better at February 15, 2022 06:24 PM (CM8Oa)

263 256 In my mental map, P J O'Rourke and Dave Barry have the same, or nearly the same, hash value. When one of them comes up in conversation, I have to consciously think about which is which before I say anything.
Posted by: Oddbob at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (aqH/b)

I think Dave Barry actually has the stronger brand. Found him more entertaining for longer, in any event. Plus, I do not think he strayed too far into the Trump Wars- which is smart.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 15, 2022 06:24 PM (eN2PK)

264 "Implying that there is a set production quota between them and Olin."

That is a very foolish thing for a company executive to say out loud.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Feed Your Rage Energy Drinks 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at February 15, 2022 06:24 PM (5mjFm)

265 publius, have you had a renal artery ultrasound to check for stenosis?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 15, 2022 06:24 PM (lCui1)

266 LOL. They're not easing shit. You still need to be vaxxed to enter the country. Only easing vaccinated visitors will be able to enter with a negative rapid antigen test instead of a molecular PCR test.
WOW!!!
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:18 PM (OalnH)

it was confusing, tbh, the epoch times piece said:

For unvaccinated travellers, the minister said they will continue to be tested upon arrival and must quarantine for 14 days. They will also need to conduct a test on day eight of their quarantine.

Canada will also adjust its travel health notice from level 3 to level 2, which means the federal government will no longer recommend Canadians avoid all travel for non-essential purposes.

Likewise, international flights arriving in Canada will be permitted to land at all remaining Canadian airports by the end of the month, said the Public Health Agency of Canada in a press release on Feb. 15.

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 15, 2022 06:25 PM (+FfPP)

267 Zerohedge is great. Do the opposite of what they say the market is going to do.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:25 PM (KZFWs)

268 I ordered from My Pillow guy again. Sick of what they are doing to him too.

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 15, 2022 06:25 PM (+FfPP)

269 214 Hitler killed six million, and died 50 years ago, so I guess he's fair game. PJ wrote funny stuff and died just now.

Happy to provide you with perspective and class anytime.

Now go get your shine box.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 15, 2022 06:26 PM (nnp+f)

270 WTF is up with Biden and Dogs? Re: Insty linked article about Biden putting a dead dog on a republican's door step.

This guy is twisted to hell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 15, 2022 06:26 PM (eN2PK)

271 Had Hillary been prez in 2020, Covid-19 would have been like the bird or swine flu. It would have made some noise, CNN and Fox would have had BREAKING NEWS chyrons for a few weeks. And then it would quietly go away and nobody would remember it by the summer as election season got into full swing.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:26 PM (OalnH)

272 RIP.

Posted by: thathalfrican - All up in arms like minute men at February 15, 2022 06:26 PM (YglAn)

273 Go look at ammo prices. What are they doing?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 15, 2022 06:18 PM (llXky)

Don't know aboot where you are but the local Gun and Ammo Parlor has CCI 100 rounds of .22LR for $8.99. I would be surprised if thry went any lower due to bidenflation but that's still a lot better than the panic pron high of $14.99.

When the shop had any at all.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at February 15, 2022 06:26 PM (jxmu6)

274 present

Posted by: DB at February 15, 2022 06:26 PM (geLO8)

275 Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2022 06:19 PM (qoS2U)

Go for it, though it sounds suspiciously like work to me.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Feed Your Rage Energy Drinks 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at February 15, 2022 06:26 PM (5mjFm)

276 I believe COVID was scheduled to happen right when it did happen, but that was to have been late in Hillary's first term. Trump got in the way but in the end, he was only a speedbump.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 15, 2022 06:27 PM (njfCw)

277 Yeah a lot of people absolutely hated Trump for a long time before he became President. That's not my problem. It's voting for Hillary that's my problem.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at February 15, 2022 06:27 PM (CqhDV)

278 The ammo was the valuable piece ... Remington firearms aren't sexy anymore and people don't fish like they used to.

True. And yet, my Rem700 - with #2 barrel - still shoots 1/4" at 100 yards off the bipod. The accuracy scales as you go out.

Remington made good shit. Their core product line - the 870, 700, and such - were fantastic values.

Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 15, 2022 06:27 PM (AFiGj)

279 artisanal ette the Canada stuff is still totally ridiculous - huge pain

we were going to go up for skiing but no freaking way. would rather go to Norway!

eh we'res stuck in the US this year. but I'd imagine this is hurting Canadian resorts pretty badly

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 15, 2022 06:27 PM (j9HX3)

280 Heya thathalfrican. : )

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 06:28 PM (1fakz)

281 Young kids can be hard on old men, I've found.
Posted by: banana Dream

And vice-versa.

Posted by: Ashley Biden at February 15, 2022 06:28 PM (WmGrA)

282 269 214 Hitler killed six million, and died 50 years ago, so I guess he's fair game. PJ wrote funny stuff and died just now.

Happy to provide you with perspective and class anytime.

Now go get your shine box.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 15, 2022 06:26 PM (nnp+f)

___

He killed more like 50 million. So I guess it's OK to speak ill of the dead, but only after a certain period of time.

Got it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:28 PM (OalnH)

283
... after an unknown prankster hid her gavel.

Oh those scamps!

Oh those racist Democrat evil cocksucking scamps!

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at February 15, 2022 06:28 PM (UZIx0)

284 206-My late husband and I went to a talk by him in the 80's when he was funny and smart. He tried to turn NatLamp into Car and Driver with cartoons, but when it was good it was great.
Mrs. Agnew's Diary ("Spiggy said it was time to take a lap on the chocolate speedway.'). "Son O'God comics" and my all time fave "Trots and Bonnie." The High School Yearbook parody."

Posted by: vivi at February 15, 2022 06:28 PM (33kEg)

285 #FreeALX@FreeALXBREAKING: This was Donald Trump's first post on "Truth Social"

eh? Has it rolled out, or was this just a test?
Trump says: Get Ready! Your favorite President will see you soon!

https://tinyurl.com/ykddpkxh

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 15, 2022 06:28 PM (+FfPP)

286 Truth Social is in beta

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 15, 2022 06:29 PM (j9HX3)

287 PJ Whatever....never read the guy.

Remington is a nothing burger. Vultures getting paid and driving for dollars.

Has Canada invaded yet?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 15, 2022 06:29 PM (R/m4+)

288 277 Yeah a lot of people absolutely hated Trump for a long time before he became President. That's not my problem. It's voting for Hillary that's my problem.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at February 15, 2022 06:27 PM (CqhDV)

And those same assholes who said how horrible Trump was just being out and out elitist commie technocrats who never gave a shit about freedom or any of it.

If someone did not like Trump. Fine. I get that. As you say though it is EVERYTHING else they have done since that has earned my ire.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 15, 2022 06:29 PM (eN2PK)

289 oh, it says join the waiting list

https://truthsocial.com/

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 15, 2022 06:29 PM (+FfPP)

290 If Hillary were POTUS we'd be Australia right now.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 15, 2022 06:29 PM (lCui1)

291
after an unknown prankster hid her gavel.

A prankster!

I think you mean iNsUrReCtIoNiSt engaging in terrorism and SeDiTiOn, yes?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at February 15, 2022 06:29 PM (UZIx0)

292 Posted by: artisanal ette at February 15, 2022 06:25 PM (+FfPP)

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It's on purpose. It sounds like stuff is changing, Level 3 to Level 2!! Wow!! But in reality it's a lot of words to say nothing is happening. But Baby Castro figures the rubes will be placated.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (OalnH)

293 143: utter flapadoodle. Death doesn't transmogrify a bastard into a Saint.

Posted by: CN at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (ONvIw)

294 282 zzzzzz

Posted by: Quint at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (WhkEA)

295 When do the caravans of illegal immigrant Canadian truckers start arriving?
I'd love for us to get some of those.

Posted by: vivi at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (33kEg)

296 "Trots and Bonnie."

Bonnie's best friend was named "Pepsi." Somehow I still remember that.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (njfCw)

297 Mikey NTH

Will try to fix what I can but some I won't go near like scratch building a new instrument panel. Besides ICM did not include a late model canopy that can be opened.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (qoS2U)

298 Hitler killed six million, and died 50 years ago

1972? So Steiner did come?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (5P6Lv)

299 143: utter flapadoodle. Death doesn't transmogrify a bastard into a Saint.

JFK and Lincoln beg to differ.

Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (AFiGj)

300 Local University has announced that their new acceptance criteria will bring the benefit of greater diversity.

Can't wait till one or more commercial airlines makes the same announcement concerning pilot hirings.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (3D/fK)

301
Just a "prankster!"

Imagine a Republican "prankster" "hiding" Jim Clayburn's gavel...

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at February 15, 2022 06:31 PM (UZIx0)

302 utter flapadoodle. Death doesn't transmogrify a bastard into a Saint.

**

It's better to do something sh*tty back in the 70s and have 50 years to make it right.

Standing up against the most conservative, most pro-life president in our lifetimes in support of the woman who spied on a sitting president while he was in office is a tad difficult to get over quickly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If we can coddle black people even MORE then they'll get better at February 15, 2022 06:31 PM (CM8Oa)

303 293 143: utter flapadoodle. Death doesn't transmogrify a bastard into a Saint.
Posted by: CN at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (ONvIw)

Oh yoo hoo!

Posted by: The Saint George Floyd Fan Club, aka the MSM at February 15, 2022 06:32 PM (PiwSw)

304 Hitler killed six million, and died 50 years ago, so I guess he's fair game. PJ wrote funny stuff and died just now.

Happy to provide you with perspective and class anytime.

Now go get your shine box.

Posted by: Regular joe

Point of parliamentary procedure: Hitler killed about 50 million, most of them Russian/Ukrainian/Belorussian.

I completely agree with your comment otherwise.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 06:32 PM (0g2Ck)

305 There's no more Remington to sue...it's now just a name brand someone bought to sell ammunition only...
Posted by: Nova local at February 15, 2022 05:58 PM (exHjb)

They better get cracking. They're losing market share

Posted by: MkY at February 15, 2022 06:32 PM (cPGH3)

306 Vista recently bought its competitor Remington out of bankruptcy, lowering the number of firms in the industry that could even build a factory and distribute ammunition effectively. And the limits on capacity were explicit. The head of ammunition for Vista, Jason R. Vanderbrink, explained that the "most important" reason for the Remington acquisition was "added capacity to Vista without increasing the overall market capacity."

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 15, 2022 06:32 PM (KZFWs)

307 Twitter comment, Bobba Fett's ship Slave One should be renamed the George Floyd One.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2022 06:32 PM (qoS2U)

308 My copy of Holidays in Hell is signed "To Rosasharn (sic). Stay Home! P. J. O'Rourke"

Nice guy. And from Ohio. Sigh.

Posted by: Rosasharn at February 15, 2022 06:33 PM (PzBTm)

309 JFK and Lincoln beg to differ.
Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (AFiGj)

I dunno. JFK has slightly risen in my opinion as I have gotten older. Lincoln has only gone down. Where are they now, relative to each other? Both of their death's were used to destroy freedom and people. So I guess it is a matter of what they did before they died. Mixed bag for both there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 15, 2022 06:33 PM (eN2PK)

310 Can't wait till one or more commercial airlines makes the same announcement concerning pilot hirings.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (3D/fK)

____

The hot new trend now is for womYns pilots.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:33 PM (OalnH)

311 So, the huge news about the John Durham probe and the Grand Jury activity that spells out the Hillary people were the source of the fake Russia, Russia, Russia nonsense? What is shaping up to be the biggest political news of our lifetime?
It got this much coverage on non-FOX news yesterday:
ABC 0 minutes, 0 seconds
NBC/MSNBC 0 minutes, 0 seconds
CBS 0 minutes, 0 seconds
CNN 2 minutes, 18 seconds

source Greg Gutfeld Monday show.
Hey, the Gutfeld show is more accurate with political news than the 4 organizations above, combined. And he isn't even trying.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 15, 2022 06:33 PM (sy5kK)

312 Canada is still on my shit list for officially giving aid and comfort to deserters and draft dodgers.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at February 15, 2022 06:33 PM (CqhDV)

313 298 Hitler killed six million, and died 50 years ago

1972? So Steiner did come?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (5P6Lv)

It was Argentina. He and Eva, Juan and Evita, under the silvery South American moon.

The Fuhrer was a real romantic.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Feed Your Rage Energy Drinks 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at February 15, 2022 06:33 PM (5mjFm)

314
Roses are red
That makes me blue
You sent me no roses
Now the law's after you

Posted by: Your Gurl at February 15, 2022 06:33 PM (vrz2I)

315 O'Rourke was another disappointing former conservative. But at one time he could write one of the greatest descriptions of a US Navy ship:

"The Mobile Bay is so clean and organized as to mock God for the frowsy quantum-physics universe he created."

Posted by: JTB at February 15, 2022 06:33 PM (7EjX1)

316 307 Twitter comment, Bobba Fett's ship Slave One should be renamed the George Floyd One.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2022 06:32 PM (qoS2U)

I liked 'Firespray? Sounds like an STD.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 15, 2022 06:34 PM (eN2PK)

317 Benny@bennyjohnson
Top Trump Cabinet Official Just Announced He's Running For Congress-- His BASED Ad Will Give You CHILLS

Ryan Zinke@RyanZinke
I live by Theodore Roosevelt's ethos that it's better to charge up the hill under fire than cower in the fox hole.

I've taken a lot of fire, but I'm not backing down:
https://tinyurl.com/4caut3tr

Teddy Roosevelt. Interesting angle.

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 15, 2022 06:34 PM (+FfPP)

318 bonhomme wife and I were discussing the Baldwin case as I was filling her in. Of course still a possibility all that story is smoke and trying to show a accident or freak chance of nature and not Alec pointing and purposely pulling the trigger.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2022 06:34 PM (2JoB8)

319 It sucks, but I'm sick of sucking down doom and gloom. I can get that from looking at gas prices.

I really hate being able to look at a situation I've never seen before, and viewing where it inevitably leads. Its a terrible thing to have as part of your existence. Be happy it afflicts me and not you.

I suspect the rest of you would prefer I not say anything, that way when the inevitable arrives, you can all say "Who knew?"

I'll stay quiet in the future.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 15, 2022 06:34 PM (ZEHVO)

320 STD is another franchise

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2022 06:34 PM (qoS2U)

321 299. Who cares. They're dead.

Posted by: CN at February 15, 2022 06:35 PM (ONvIw)

322 I liked 'Firespray? Sounds like an STD.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 15, 2022 06:34 PM (eN2PK)

Isn't that what Hunter did when he washed out of the Navy?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 15, 2022 06:35 PM (PiwSw)

323 Not saying bad shit about someone once they're dead is silly. So you spend years saying Biden is a piece of shit. Then suddenly he dies and it's all "he was a great man"? That's absurd.

If you said shit about someone while they're alive, say it after they die too.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:35 PM (OalnH)

324 Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 15, 2022 06:28 PM (1fakz)

What's going on friend!

Posted by: thathalfrican - All up in arms like minute men at February 15, 2022 06:35 PM (YglAn)

325 I ordered from My Pillow guy again. Sick of what they are doing to him too.

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 15, 2022 06:25
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Santa brought us 3 sets of King sheets and a pair of slippers.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 15, 2022 06:35 PM (ju2Fy)

326 Parliament of Whores should be required reading in any government class!
Posted by: Nevada Dave

Yes many times over

Posted by: 7man at February 15, 2022 06:35 PM (qwO6y)

327 I think if PJ's candidate had won we'd be looking a lot more totalitarian right now. And we're already looking pretty damn totalitarian.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If we can coddle black people even MORE then they'll get better

You may be right. I've not thought of it from that perspective before, mostly because Hillary would have had to run for re-election in 2020 and all the draconian lockdowns and evil policies would have made her so unpopular that she'd have had to cheat to . . .

Oh, . . . so . . . I see what you mean.

Hmmmm.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 06:35 PM (0g2Ck)

328 >El Salvador's President said Canada no longer has any moral high ground. You opinions concerning democracy is ZERO. Fucking El Salvador.
Posted by: Capital Eff at February 15, 2022 06:22 PM (GYllL)

Yeah, and the Memology guy on YouTube who is based (and rips on Castreau) is a Honduran. You gotta hand it to them, they know their two-bit dictators pretty well in Central America.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 15, 2022 06:36 PM (JEAID)

329 I dunno. JFK has slightly risen in my opinion as I have gotten older. Lincoln has only gone down. Where are they now, relative to each other?

You know - me too. It was just the first names that popped up.

JFK ? Not a saint - almost got us into a hot war over shitty call in Cuba. Also was no fan about how shit was going in 'Nam. Probably wasn't going to win re-election.

Lincoln ? A tyrant. Pure and damn simple. A benevolent in victory tyrant - supposedly.

Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 15, 2022 06:36 PM (AFiGj)

330 Haven't there been women pilots in commercial airlines for some time band they seem to have done o.k but I would guess military aircraft-especially landing on a deck is much harder to do.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2022 06:36 PM (vp1F8)

331 Nudey

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Feed Your Rage Energy Drinks 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at February 15, 2022 06:36 PM (5mjFm)

332 It's on purpose. It sounds like stuff is changing, Level 3 to Level 2!! Wow!! But in reality it's a lot of words to say nothing is happening. But Baby Castro figures the rubes will be placated.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:30 PM (OalnH)

they also say, oh, and btw, this can all change at a moment's notice

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 15, 2022 06:37 PM (+FfPP)

333 SMH, have you been keeping up with Russia's latest attempt to match the M1A2 SepV3 Abrams, the T-14 Armata?

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 06:37 PM (0g2Ck)

334 It's fine to speak honestly of anyone, even the recently deceased, though I'd probably refrain from it at the funeral. Human beings are complicated things, all flawed or gifted depending on one's perspective but all ultimately subject to the trials we face in life.

Wherever O'Rourke is he of all people isn't going to take offense.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue One at February 15, 2022 06:37 PM (i9h5w)

335 Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:35 PM (OalnH)
Comparing Biden and O'Rourke isn't in the same field IMO.

I kinda remember him stumping for Hilary, so yeah, that's awful but, not diddle your kids awful. Not steal from America awful.

Chill bro.

Posted by: thathalfrican - All up in arms like minute men at February 15, 2022 06:38 PM (YglAn)

336 >> have you had a renal artery ultrasound to check for stenosis?

They did a thorough ultrasound of my heart and the surrounding plumbing. It took a long time. They looked at flow in the major plumbing, including the arteries in the neck and all that. Everything looked fine and dandy.

It was very cool to see real-time cross section images of your beating heart. Seeing the valves opening and closing. And the flow direction. There's blood coming in, filling the chamber. Boom, there it goes out.

And all that was well within operating tolerances. My ticker was ticking textbook.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at February 15, 2022 06:38 PM (Mzdiz)

337 Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 15, 2022 06:36 PM (AFiGj)

Disagree on Lincoln. But that's ok my friend.

Posted by: thathalfrican - All up in arms like minute men at February 15, 2022 06:39 PM (YglAn)

338 I believe he wrote something about any country with the words "democratic" or "republic" in their name are sure to be a third world tyrannical shit-hole. Having spent a month in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, I thought he was on to something.

Posted by: skinbad at February 15, 2022 06:40 PM (x9Fhw)

339 49 Because he was funny as hell. Not something you could say about Bill Kristol. (Unless you're using a different meaning for "funny"...)
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at February 15, 2022 05:46 PM (J3Ub3)

Mmm hmm.

Posted by: Karl Childers at February 15, 2022 06:40 PM (DTX3h)

340
I don't think there was any indication to check for renal problems. I remember hearing one of the docs say something about that. IOW, what they were seeing didn't suggest renal involvement.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at February 15, 2022 06:41 PM (Mzdiz)

341 I would guess military aircraft-especially landing on a deck is much harder to do.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Unfortunately, Kara Hultgreen, who died in her F-14 trying to land on a carrier, made a rookie mistake that has killed many F-14 jocks, men included: She poured full power in to go around again and swung the stick sharply to port, which flamed out her port engine instantly and the plane then turned over to port. When the RIO hit the ejection handles, he shot sideways and survived, by the time Hultgreen ejected 0.4 seconds later, the aircraft's roll to port caused her to be ejected straight into the water because she was so low, killing her.

She was warned in training about this, and was an experienced pilot in another aircraft type, but this kind of mistake was very common in the earlier model of the F-14, with its substandard engines prone to flameouts of this type.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 15, 2022 06:41 PM (0g2Ck)

342 318 bonhomme wife and I were discussing the Baldwin case as I was filling her in. Of course still a possibility all that story is smoke and trying to show a accident or freak chance of nature and not Alec pointing and purposely pulling the trigger.
Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2022 06:34 PM (2JoB

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It amazes me that Baldwin hasn't been charged with a crime yet. If it were you or I, we'd be rotting in jail right now.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 15, 2022 06:42 PM (sy5kK)

343 317. Zinke was the Sec of the Interior who rode a horse to his swearing in?

Posted by: Jen the original at February 15, 2022 06:43 PM (rkyNn)

344 I kinda remember him stumping for Hilary, so yeah, that's awful but, not diddle your kids awful. Not steal from America awful. Chill bro.

That's the thing, Half. And this is where it gets both complicated and shitty.

O'Rourke advocated for things late in the game that - although they didn't directly lead to diddle my kids awful - absolutely set the stage for those that think diddle my kids is simply a valid lifestyle choice that deserves polite debate in the public arena.

O'Rourke was a typical Exceptional Boomer. He hated authority - until he tasted authority. It's a behavior that generation demonstrates time and time and time again.

Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 15, 2022 06:44 PM (AFiGj)

345 PJ O'Rourke was interesting. He had some quote along the lines conservatives had the Left on the ropes, but decided to get really bogged down in the abortion debate.

I have mixed feelings on that.

I liked his articles, was disappointed he was easily suckered into a sort of NeverTrump position.

Posted by: Blago at February 15, 2022 06:45 PM (PwNLq)

346 Our side is really into decorum and norms. And has this weird blind spot that somehow if "our" guy doesn't live up to those standards, the appropriate punishment is a corrupt/evil Democrat being elected.

I saw this with a pocket of Evangelicals and Mormons. Trump was not the spiritual leader they were looking for, so the only option was Hillary or Biden that was opposed to anything remotely socially conservative. They couldn't get over Trump saying pussy.

Posted by: Blago at February 15, 2022 06:48 PM (PwNLq)

347 Disagree on Lincoln. But that's ok my friend.

Too Sweet.

From everything I've read on the man - which is a lot - he was pretty exceptional in his day to day communication. He could connect with a common man. He pissed off the elites. Which is all good.

But he saw levers of power, and how to pull them. Never a notion of about if those levers should be left alone. In that way - yes, the man was a natural born tyrant. A tyrant with shades of benevolence. But a tyrant all the same.

Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 15, 2022 06:49 PM (AFiGj)

348 His essays about his travels were hilarious. He described the Balkan wars as a battle between the unspellables and the unpronouncibles

Hecwas the opposite of Political Correctness.

Posted by: Minuteman at February 15, 2022 06:50 PM (sZn7E)

349 If you said shit about someone while they're alive, say it after they die too.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 15, 2022 06:35 PM (OalnH)

Concur. Been to many a funeral and had to stifle laughing about all the "good" things said about some real shit asses.

Shit Ass in life, Shit Ass in death.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 15, 2022 06:52 PM (R/m4+)

350 Name me one conservative who gained success and maintained his conservative values.

I'm waiting.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at February 15, 2022 06:53 PM (Q3oNv)

351 350 Name me one conservative who gained success and maintained his conservative values.

I'm waiting.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at February 15, 2022 06:53 PM (Q3oNv)
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Rush.

Posted by: Interesting Times at February 15, 2022 06:54 PM (ieN7O)

352 350 Name me one conservative who gained success and maintained his conservative values.

I'm waiting.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at February 15, 2022 06:53 PM (Q3oNv)

VDH

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue One at February 15, 2022 06:55 PM (i9h5w)

353 "Seventeen takes a while to shoot. I think my finger would have gotten tired."

Most cop candidates, that is one of the first physical tests, pull the trigger 17 times. That is before they let you climb walls and stuff.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 15, 2022 07:00 PM (jTmQV)

354 Name me one conservative who gained success and maintained his conservative values.
I'm waiting.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at February 15, 2022 06:53 PM (Q3oNv)

Jeb!

Please clap.

Posted by: Jeb!, An Inbred Tool at February 15, 2022 07:04 PM (R/m4+)

355 Mike Hunt is crestfallen

Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at February 15, 2022 07:26 PM (k0caX)

356 So is Hedda A Borshun and the whole sophomore class.

Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at February 15, 2022 07:27 PM (k0caX)

357 I remember having to order Republican Party Reptile at the UCLA book store. I think I had already read on of PJs other books. The guy at the counter sneered at me for getting it, but I told him that libs have no sense of humor.

RIP PJ.

Posted by: Justin Castreau at February 15, 2022 07:38 PM (ZW1rs)

358 354 Name me one conservative who gained success and maintained his conservative values.
I'm waiting.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at February 15, 2022 06:53 PM (Q3oNv)

Clarence Thomas

Posted by: iron moron at February 15, 2022 07:48 PM (UpnbY)

359 I had the high school yearbook issue. Long gone, but I still have the Encyclopedia of Humor - bought it the day it was released, before it got yanked off the stands. RIP PJ. You helped entertain my mis-spent teen years.

Posted by: Dagny Taggart at February 15, 2022 08:09 PM (4OXRw)

360 He endorsed Bill Clinton's "wife" to be president of my country. Rest in hell.

Posted by: ccoffer at February 15, 2022 08:22 PM (QrxII)

361 Very sorry to hear this. I am just reading his take on Books that Changed the World: Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. Not as funny as usual but I'm getting a better grip on Smith. We're going to miss his wit. RIP P.J.

Posted by: leber at February 15, 2022 08:44 PM (jwcSX)

362 Was surprised to see O'Rourke go Never Trump (especially considering the alternative), but when he was good he was GOOD, and he bought his way into heaven with PARLIAMENT OF WHORES. An earlier commenter said that one should be required reading in any government class, and he was right. But considering what you can avoid in school these days and still graduate, it should probably be required in government, history, social studies, and what the hell, phys ed too. PoW is worth the price of admission just for the chapter where PJ balances the federal budget.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at February 15, 2022 09:05 PM (JzDjf)

363 56. Though you were a NeverTrumper, you were never an official member of the NeverTrump Human Centipede Mobius Strip, so you get to walk through the Pearly Gates without the taste of Bill Kristol's ass on your tongue.

But you do need to give us one thousand push-ups. So, one...two...

Posted by: Paco at February 15, 2022 11:50 PM (njExo)

364 He was raffish!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2022 01:52 AM (DLjqX)

365 it's amazing to see fash canada's TL now. So, of course, BLM can do whatever. Mooselini can support truck protests in India but now they're going to starve and excommunicate truckers in Canada.

Why leave? Fuck em. You already said you wanted us dead.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 16, 2022 01:43 PM (ZZK0E)

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