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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Until JJ Sefton comes along with the Hobby Thread kick back and relax. Enjoy the world of animals.

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I know this is an older story. Somehow it got lost in my AoS clutter. What a good boy. Every time he asks for a T-R-E-A-T he should get one. (H/T CBD-He does have a soft heart)

Loyal Adopted Dog Takes Bullet in the Face to Protect Owners When Armed Robbers Break Into House

A dog in South Africa adopted from the SPCA into a loving forever home has repaid her owners a thousandfold after two armed robbers broke into their house and opened fire. The mixed breed, Kei, was shot in the face while ferociously protecting the family’s young lady.


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I might be in the minority here. I don't have a problem with "Pinch Collars" (Prong Collars) and have used them with our last 2 dogs. And I wish I had known about them back in the 80s.

Anyone who’s had a rowdy animal could sympathize with wanting an easy solution to their bad behavior. We’ll admit that there are sometimes you feel the need to show them who’s the alpha. When dealing with a living, breathing animal, it’s important to question techniques that go beyond vocal admonition. But are prong collars the way to go?

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Hi there; I thought I would show you my two criminals. Jagger the golden retriever and Finn the chesapeake bay retriever Thank you-Todd


No need to thank the Pet Thread. We are happy to profile your "criminals". Funny thing I found the Prong Collar story before I saw your photo. I see you believe they are useful for when out on walks. Thanks for sharing today.


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Dear Misanthropic Humanitarian,

I present to you Rosie (Golden Retriever, 10 months) and Daisy (Cocker Spaniel, 5 months). They keep us busy, entertained and broke.--29Victor


If you are around 29Victor, I hope you explain to us how you got 2 puppies. From what I know about dogs, training is a tough thing as they play off one another. They certainly are cute!


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Mis Hum,

This is my older cat (name withheld for OPSEC). As I write this, we have just learned that he probably has GI lymphoma. We are treating him with steroids. Although he's had chronic vomiting for several weeks and has been through a lot of poking and prodding to find out what's wrong, he seems to be hanging in there so far.

As you can see, he enjoys assembling IKEA furniture. He also serves as our household's (self appointed) Chief Grooming Enforcement Officer. He loves to sit with me most mornings while I drink my coffee, purring and sticking his nose in my breakfast.

This little fella been my best friend for more than 9 years and my faithful companion through a very dark time. I don't know how much more time we'll have together but I thank God for every moment He gives us. - screaming in digital

A very nice action shot there of your little buddy. Hopefully, the treatments are going well. He certainly looks like a pet who would bring joy into one's life. Thank you for your contribution today.


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This is Barney an 8 year old male mix breed who's had it a bit rough. He has spent most of his life in a shelter after his owner fell ill several years ago. He's so damn sweet. He was very shy with me at first, would not even let me pet him. But once I parked myself on the couch he was right there giving me doggie kisses. No known health issues a very sweet boy!

Our dear sweet Molly the long haired chihuahua finally got adopted and we are very happy for her!!

As always thank you MisHum for featuring our sweet pups. - Jewells

No need to thank me Jewells. I'm sure there are a number of us say "Thank you" for giving aid to these abandoned critters. Once again, we are glad we could show your latest projects.


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Thank you all for sharing with us today. There weren't a lot of pets but the ones here certainly are "Keepers".

If you have something pet/animal related you would like to share you can reach us at petmorons at gmail dot com.

Have a great week!

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Comments

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1 Happy Caturday everyone

Posted by: Skip at February 05, 2022 03:01 PM (2JoB8)

2
Conor says "Woof!" to the Pet Thread Attendees and the pictured pets above!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at February 05, 2022 03:01 PM (hOUT3)

3 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 03:01 PM (arJlL)

4 Nice Pets Y'all!...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 05, 2022 03:03 PM (R/m4+)

5 My cat Penny is joining us on the Pet Thread today. She says, "Hello!"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 05, 2022 03:03 PM (K5n5d)

6 Corgi's call from near and far.

Wife has brought up pets,, suggested getting a dog and seemed at least thinking so a good sign.

Posted by: Skip at February 05, 2022 03:05 PM (2JoB8)

7 {{{Jewells}}}
That Barney dog looks like a great rescue pup, hard to believe he had been a shelter pup for a long time.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at February 05, 2022 03:05 PM (hOUT3)

8 Yes, enthusiastic yes, to prong collars. You don't need to use them for long, just during training. They don't injure the pupper, but they very effectively communicate and teach.

Posted by: Mongerel at February 05, 2022 03:07 PM (+JNKR)

9 Jewell's Barney the mix breed may be the most contented looking pup I've ever seen.

Posted by: JTB at February 05, 2022 03:08 PM (7EjX1)

10 That cartoon is so funny. I'll be smiling about it for a good while.

Posted by: JTB at February 05, 2022 03:09 PM (7EjX1)

11 My 94 year old aunt's chihuahua, which she'd had for 9 or 10 years, had to be put down last month. It was very hard for her because the little fella was a lot of company. Her kids started talking about her getting another dog a few days later. She told them hell no. She doesn't want to outlive another dog. My aunt is an optimist.

Posted by: huerfano at February 05, 2022 03:10 PM (MzKgG)

12 Honk

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 05, 2022 03:11 PM (UHVv4)

13 Hello, Penny!

Posted by: KT at February 05, 2022 03:12 PM (0ghg2)

14 Doggeh just turned 5!
He not a pup no more, I guess.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 05, 2022 03:13 PM (lCui1)

15 I'm a big believer in pinch collars. Use one every time we have Benny on a leash in public places.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 05, 2022 03:13 PM (ikXZL)

16 This is the best video I've seen on how to use a prong collar properly:

https://youtu.be/AOq0eAqSvaU

They are a training tool. That article telling you not to use one is why we have so many out of control dogs now. It's the number one question on the springer group "how do I keep my dog from pulling?" Too many people want to train by talking to the dog. It doesn't work well.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 03:15 PM (YynYJ)

17 Skip ... I left a comment about biochar at the end of the Gardening Thread.

MisHum ... My apologies for interrupting the always-delightful Pet Thread.

Posted by: Kathy at February 05, 2022 03:16 PM (h3RRP)

18 Well, Mr. Bar-the-Door went to check on our neighbor's pit bull who normally visits us, and discovered that she now has eleven puppies! ELEVEN.

It appears that there is also another dog there who has puppies. Both dogs were protective of their home and puppies as he approached.

He talked to a resident, told him that we generally give the pit bull a peanut butter sandwich (or three) when she comes to the door and barks, and he said, "You know, the neighbors feed her, too".

Maybe that's because the dogs don't get enough food at home. The dogs seem more responsible than the humans at that address.

Posted by: KT at February 05, 2022 03:16 PM (0ghg2)

19 Thank you Mis Hum - always look forward to the Pet Thread.

Enjoyed the doggie court room cartoon.

We're currently dogless since our beautiful Golden left us a number of years ago. She was a gentle sweet dog who left us way too early at age 11.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornia at February 05, 2022 03:17 PM (7SwmH)

20 Both mama dogs got a peanut butter sandwich.

Posted by: KT at February 05, 2022 03:17 PM (0ghg2)

21 Is that a cigarette in the back row?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 03:17 PM (dNqv+)

22 In the linked article on prong collars, the author concludes importantly that these devices are used sparingly by trained professionals, and it's rare that the average dog owner has the right skills.

I would agree with this. We took our dog to a professional trainer and participated in all the sessions, as we felt that training is as much for the owners as it is for the dogs.

If our dog had been more stubborn, an electric collar would have been next. However, the training was so excellent that we never got to that point. Now, if she even needs to be leashed, like to go to the vet, we just loop a lead loosely around her head and she immediately goes into obedience mode.

Posted by: Mongerel at February 05, 2022 03:17 PM (+JNKR)

23 Good afternoon, horde!

I can't take both bulldogs on a walk together unless they have pinch collars. Even then, with their high tolerance for discomfort, they still pull a bit.

But I have not been a good trainer of dogs.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at February 05, 2022 03:19 PM (OX9vb)

24 21 Is that a cigarette in the back row?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 03:17 PM (dNqv+)

I think it's a leg - like the lamp in the movie Christmas Story....

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornia at February 05, 2022 03:20 PM (7SwmH)

25 Is that a cigarette in the back row?
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A woman's leg for humping reasons I assume.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 05, 2022 03:20 PM (UHVv4)

26 Barney, except for the coloration, looks exactly like Ajax in the face.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 03:20 PM (dNqv+)

27 We had a sad story on the springer group. A young dog swallowed an acorn, which lodged in the intestines. It didn't show up on x-rays of course. By the time they found it, they had to remove 70% of her intestines. It didn't help. She went into cardiac arrest and died.

Just a reminder that there are things that can cause blockage that aren't easy to detect. She might have been saved if they had diagnosed it earlier.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 03:20 PM (YynYJ)

28 jewells, those dogs have great smiles

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 05, 2022 03:21 PM (EZebt)

29 I was just trying to take a picture of my pup (again), but as soon as I get on "puppy level" it means to attack the camera. If I'm fast I can catch a full-face picture standing, she looks much cuter awake. Time to pull out the telephoto lens, I might be able to get some shots if she's all the way on the other side of the yard. She discovered cats today. Luckily the neighbor's blue point has been around the block a few times, and was most unimpressed at a little puppy barking (she just discovered barking) at her. Just gave her the Siam stink-eye as she sauntered away.

Barney there looks like he's disgustingly pleased with himself, that's one happy dog. So glad he's found a home that appreciates him. What a cutie. Molly looks pretty amazing too, think her family will be super delighted.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 03:21 PM (wAnMi)

30 >
A woman's leg for humping reasons I assume.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 05, 2022 03:20 PM (UHVv4)


Like dog, like Horde.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 05, 2022 03:23 PM (ikXZL)

31 Is that a cigarette in the back row?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 03:17 PM (dNqv+)

I think it's a leg - like the lamp in the movie Christmas Story....
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornia at February 05, 2022 03:20 PM (7SwmH)


I was guessing silk stockings or something like that.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 03:23 PM (wAnMi)

32 28 jewells, those dogs have great smiles
Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 05, 2022 03:21 PM (EZebt)

All dogs have great smiles.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 03:23 PM (dNqv+)

33 As mentioned on yesterday's ONT, there is a cat living with me now.

Today I'm a bit worried. He's spent the whole day (apart from one brief petting session) sleeping under the bed.

Maybe he's just tired. He was running around a lot yesterday. I'd forgotten that not only do we treasure our pets, we also worry about them.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 05, 2022 03:23 PM (m0zqP)

34 My cat spends most of the day sleeping. It's normal. And congratulations!

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 03:25 PM (YynYJ)

35 Today I'm a bit worried. He's spent the whole day (apart from one brief petting session) sleeping under the bed.

Maybe he's just tired. He was running around a lot yesterday. I'd forgotten that not only do we treasure our pets, we also worry about them.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 05, 2022 03:23 PM (m0zqP)

He's probably just feeling things out. Cats are weird like that. Dogs cannot be passive aggressive or indecisive.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 03:26 PM (dNqv+)

36 Just a reminder that there are things that can cause blockage that aren't easy to detect. She might have been saved if they had diagnosed it earlier.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 03:20 PM (YynYJ)

That's kind of terrifying.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 03:27 PM (dNqv+)

37 Great pix today of the moronimals. Thanks MisHum for bringing us the Pet Thread. Always a treat.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 05, 2022 03:27 PM (ju2Fy)

38 I was guessing silk stockings or something like that.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 03:23 PM (wAnMi)


Store mannequin

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at February 05, 2022 03:27 PM (hOUT3)

39 Adorable pet morons today.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 05, 2022 03:29 PM (NpAcC)

40 Out of that jury, I would think the Toilet would be the least aggrieved. Could be sympathetic to the doggeh.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 05, 2022 03:30 PM (ju2Fy)

41 Like dog, like Horde.
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Woof! Woof!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 05, 2022 03:30 PM (UHVv4)

42 Golden CO is hosting a golden retriever parade today

local news says over 200 dogs
so that's my contribution to the thread!

Posted by: DB at February 05, 2022 03:30 PM (geLO8)

43 One thing I've observed with 40 years with cats, is they have their own schedules. They do not have routines like dogs. If my dog were to go to sleep at 2pm instead of having the zoomies in the backyard, I'd be worried. But a cat? They'll sleep whenever they want, and of course they're on a bender whenever they want. The only routine they keep is the one forced on them if you feed them at the same time every day. So, one day they're under the sofa for 7 hours, the next they won't have anything to do with it and won't let you have anything to do with it either.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 03:30 PM (wAnMi)

44 Such beautiful pets.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 03:34 PM (eGTCV)

45 Since this picture Barney has integrated well with all the other pups. Someone took a video the other day of all of them playing in the snow. Barney even got lazy fat Charlie off his butt to play. We've since adopted out another one, Buster the mini pincher, schauzer mix. We've have also received a special case I will send MisHum the info on that this week. Thanks MisHum.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 03:34 PM (nxdel)

46 Golden CO is hosting a golden retriever parade today

local news says over 200 dogs
so that's my contribution to the thread!
Posted by: DB

The mailman called out sick.....

Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 03:34 PM (arJlL)

47 Hello everyone!

Bogle and I am having a quiet afternoon, I'm finishing a cardigan and he's chewing a kong with much delight.

One of my Spitz had part of an intestine removed due to a blockage and fortunately survived. Always on a leash after that!

Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 03:35 PM (ONvIw)

48 BeckoningChasm. Don't borrow trouble. Cats take at least a few days to adjust to new surroundings. He has found a safe place and probably will go exploring while you are sleeping at first and then will warm up to you.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 05, 2022 03:36 PM (3cGpq)

49 I'm feeling a little unwell today and Paisley has been unusually clingy-coming around and grunting and staring me in the face.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 03:38 PM (eGTCV)

50 BeckoningChasm,
Please be patient with Robert. He will come around. Adjusting to a new place can be a little intimidating after the initial run around. He will be ok.

Notsothoreau,
Peace to you, lovely lady. And condolences.

Jewells,
I look forward to your Shep's Place updates every week. Thank you for all you do for those sweet creatures.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 05, 2022 03:39 PM (U2p+3)

51 49 I'm feeling a little unwell today and Paisley has been unusually clingy-coming around and grunting and staring me in the face.
Posted by: N.L. Urker,

She's trying to make you feel better

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 05, 2022 03:39 PM (lCui1)

52 I have no problem with pinch collars or even shock collars when used properly and appropriately.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 05, 2022 03:40 PM (UUBmN)

53 Bogle and I am having a quiet afternoon, I'm finishing a cardigan and he's chewing a kong with much delight.

What's a kong ?

Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 03:40 PM (arJlL)

54 Are town has a Gay Pet Clinic that takes care of the special needs of Gay Animals.... What has your town down to treat these animals ???

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 05, 2022 03:41 PM (K3AXV)

55 I gave doggeh a new toy and in return he farted

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 05, 2022 03:42 PM (lCui1)

56 I once had an Afghan hound who was out of control. I enrolled her in obedience classes and used a prong collar to train. I only had to use it a couple of times and she was healing by my side.
I may get 2 for my cockers because they just turned 1, but are a little wild on the leash.

Having 2 pups that are the same age and breed has definitely been harder to train than all the other dogs and pups I have had in the past. They still haven't determined which one is the alpha dog.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 05, 2022 03:42 PM (NpAcC)

57 What's a kong ?
Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 03:40 PM (arJlL)

Heavy duty chew toy brand

Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 03:43 PM (ONvIw)

58 Thank you nurse!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 03:43 PM (nxdel)

59 Ah Jewells, so good to hear about Barney's progress, happy that he is feeling happy with the other pups! His smile is a heart melter, for sure.

Rosie and Daisy are so lovely, they are a handful I bet!
Jagger and Finn, beautiful big boys, that's some intimidating look from Finn.

Posted by: Pony Tail at February 05, 2022 03:44 PM (tzZq2)

60 A Kong is the only toy Paisley hasn't been able to destroy.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 03:44 PM (eGTCV)

61 If you are around 29Victor, I hope you explain to us how you got 2 puppies. From what I know about dogs, training is a tough thing as they play off one another. They certainly are cute!

We had 2 litter mates who were absolutely inseparable. It really was a special relationship. But yeah, it was tough and I don't see how it could be possible with 1 person. In my case, the dogs each picked their human, so I took Dolly and the wife too Daisy. When at obedience training (with a large group of other dogs) we'd separate as best we could, but they'd always be checking each other and egging each other on. At least, that's what I imagined was going on. I'm positive they dared each other, and double dog-dared each other often. We did manage to train them though - they were amazing for small dogs and so well behaved. There was the added advantage that they always had company - even though they were rarely alone. It was pretty awesome to have 2 pups having the zoomies together, tearing up and down the hallway and doing laps around the coffee table.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 03:45 PM (wAnMi)

62 What's a kong ?
Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 03:40 PM (arJlL)

Heavy duty chew toy brand
Posted by: CN The First

Thank you !

Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 03:45 PM (arJlL)

63 Nice pics. We had to put one of our two down about a month ago. Had him almost fifteen years. Its different. The house is just sadder. I don't know if we'll get another or not.

Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 05, 2022 03:46 PM (nI61m)

64
Golden CO is hosting a golden retriever parade today

local news says over 200 dogs
so that's my contribution to the thread!
Posted by: DB


Those dogs will love the Golden Corral.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 05, 2022 03:46 PM (63Dwl)

65 Beckoning Chasm I'm sure the new kitty will be just fine. Just getting the lay of the land. Probably tired from all the excitement.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 03:48 PM (nxdel)

66 A Kong is the only toy Paisley hasn't been able to destroy.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 03:44 PM (eGTCV)


My last dogs didn't care for kongs at all, my new pup loves hers. That might change. I was surprised that they now have 3 chew levels, the old red, a softer puppy pink, and now a more indestructible black. So apparently somebody complained their dog managed to shred theirs. TBH, when I was looking at them at the store, I couldn't tell the difference.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 03:48 PM (wAnMi)

67 Not my pup that died, although I am not sure how much longer the old dog has. She had another seizure. I can get her to go about a month without one. This was one of the lighter ones, but she's starting to show weakness in her back legs.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 03:49 PM (YynYJ)

68 If you are around 29Victor, I hope you explain to us how you got 2 puppies. From what I know about dogs, training is a tough thing as they play off one another. They certainly are cute!
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Well, MisHum, both my wife and I are "Dog People" and for the first time in our 27-year marriage we live somewhere we own one. We wanted a breed that was gentle & easy to train so my wife found Rosie (the Golden). Well, Rosie needed a friend to play with so when she was potty trained (which was surprisingly easy) we got Daisy (who was not nearly as easy to potty train).
Yes, they're a handful but our kids are all grown so we have a lot of free time. Also, one of our kids has broken our hearts and the dogs are helping to mend them and keep our minds off of ourselves (people's prayers would help with that as well and be greatly appreciated).

Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 03:50 PM (BJKQV)

69

60 A Kong is the only toy Paisley hasn't been able to destroy.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 03:44 PM (eGTCV)

Exactly my reason for having them! Bogie is hard on chew toys, and loves to chew.

Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 03:50 PM (ONvIw)

70 >>>As mentioned on yesterday's ONT, there is a cat living with me now.

Happy news, Beckoning Chasm! A whole new chapter of your life has just begun, how fun!

Posted by: Pony Tail at February 05, 2022 03:51 PM (tzZq2)

71 Bogie gets the red kongs. At first he hated them, but a little time and peanut butter helped him adjust.
For Christmas, I sent his breeder a selection of kongs as jacks are great chewers.

Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 03:52 PM (ONvIw)

72 Golden CO is hosting a golden retriever parade today
Posted by: DB


Racists.

Posted by: a golden lab at February 05, 2022 03:53 PM (P1f+c)

73 So sorry to hear Cause and Effect, condolences and know we all have felt that sadness.

Posted by: Pony Tail at February 05, 2022 03:53 PM (tzZq2)

74 Regarding toys that get destroyed: I just got my dogs a toy called Tearrables. They are plush toys, but with appendages attached with velcro, so they can tear them apart and you just put it back together so they can do it again.

Their favorite is a corona-type virus with lots of little spikes to pull off.

I won't spend more money on another, because I can sew, and now realize I can make something similar out of pieces of other destroyed toys.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at February 05, 2022 03:53 PM (OX9vb)

75 We had 2 litter mates who were absolutely inseparable. It really was a special relationship. But yeah, it was tough and I don't see how it could be possible with 1 person.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 03:45 PM (wAnMi)

Our Rosie and Daisy are like that (not littermates though, of course). If you've ever seen "Strange Brew" when Bob and Doug are separated for the first time - that's what I'm reminded of whenever we take one of the dogs somewhere without the other. It's so sad
Yeah, I don't know how anyone could do this on their own. Thankfully there are two of us raising them and our 19 year old is doing college from home and he helps too.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 03:54 PM (BJKQV)

76 (people's prayers would help with that as well and be greatly appreciated).
Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 03:50 PM (BJKQV)

Prayers for your whole family, human & fur

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 05, 2022 03:55 PM (lCui1)

77 We are a lone. Pets can tell you what to invest your time on.

By the time we speak the same language they die.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 05, 2022 03:55 PM (ynzDx)

78 Toby isn't really a serious chewer. But he enjoys licking peanut butter or lard out of kong, or if I have a bit of burger left over after making patties I'll stuff it in a kong. Otherwise it would be gone in one gulp.

Just an FYI, that they are useful for keeping dogs occupied even if one doesn't need a super tough chew toy.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 05, 2022 03:56 PM (3cGpq)

79 Paisley has hidden her Kong and won't tell me where it is. Silly girl.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 03:57 PM (eGTCV)

80 Americans so rich. They give meat cigarettes to their dogs.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 05, 2022 03:58 PM (ynzDx)

81 Sparky the cat saw a coyote through the patio door a couple days ago. He has been a nervous nellie ever since.

Posted by: Ronster at February 05, 2022 03:59 PM (nM2ni)

82 Has anyone here used lick pads? We have them at Shep's and the dogs just love them. We bought one for Moose. He just looked at us like we had lost our minds. He's "special".

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 03:59 PM (nxdel)

83 69

60 A Kong is the only toy Paisley hasn't been able to destroy.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 03:44 PM (eGTCV)

Exactly my reason for having them! Bogie is hard on chew toys, and loves to chew.
Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 03:50 PM (ONvIw)

Kong is great! We are new dog owners and act like it so we've bought a ton of toys. The Golden destroys most of them (even the toys that claim to be indestructible) so I've started using her for market research and we only buy toys now from the brands that survive more than a few weeks. They have a couple of Kong teddy bears that have lasted for a few months now. We also have an ucho brand rubberized rose toy that they gnaw on all the time but doesn't even have teeth marks in it.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 03:59 PM (BJKQV)

84 Nice pics. We had to put one of our two down about a month ago. Had him almost fifteen years. Its different. The house is just sadder. I don't know if we'll get another or not.
Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 05, 2022 03:46 PM (nI61m)


I found I really needed to be ready. I'm not sure I am right now TBH. I lost my Daisy almost 5 years ago. I tried to adopt for a bit, but didn't have much success. I decided to start reaching out to breeders (already on waiting list with a few) and magically, the very first one I contacted had pups ready to go, she was just deciding which of the 3 she was going to keep.

I'll admit I wondered just WTF I had gotten myself into after living alone for so long, but a tiny little pup has suddenly filled this big old house with a lot of life. I will treasure every second.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:01 PM (wAnMi)

85 Prayers sent, 29Victor.
Both your pups are adorable. I'm a little partial to Daisy though, as my red & white part cocker passed away 1 1/2 years ago.

Last year I ended up adopting 2 cocker puppies and I am so glad I did.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 05, 2022 04:02 PM (NpAcC)

86 Jewells, if you're still around, I finally got to give my youngest sister that memorial bracelet you made. She started crying, then said how much she loved it, and that the colors were perfect. She's going to have the back of the charm engraved with her baby's name (died at under a year from cancer) so everyone will know who it's for.

I promised her I'd tell you as soon as I saw you, so everyone else, sorry for the early OT.

Posted by: Ann Wilson, aka Empire 1 at February 05, 2022 04:02 PM (JJatH)

87 79 Paisley has hidden her Kong and won't tell me where it is. Silly girl.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 03:57 PM (eGTCV)

Check under furniture. Especially near where she sleeps. Behind bookshelves too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 04:02 PM (dNqv+)

88 Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 03:59 PM (BJKQV)

I wish they had an indestructible squeak toy, those last the shortest time.

Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 04:02 PM (ONvIw)

89 Pets! We used a prong collar on our Lab Jake. When we adopted him, he was six years old and had been kept in a backyard most of his life. He was never trained to a leash and walks with him were tough. Jake was a very enthusiastic dog and a real sweetheart, but he would lunge at anyone he met outside. That was his way of saying hello! Unfortunately, he could knock people down and his behavior was scary to kids and the elderly. We took him to a trainer who recommended the prong collar, especially for walks. After a few weeks of training, walks were much easier and eventually we did not need to use the collar. Jake did love his walkies and that collar allowed him to do normal dog things. I loved that dog. He passed away about eleven years ago at age fifteen. I still miss him.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at February 05, 2022 04:03 PM (Vf4Y7)

90 Thank you Ann Wilson. I'm so sorry for her loss.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 04:05 PM (nxdel)

91 I wish they had an indestructible squeak toy, those last the shortest time.
Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 04:02 PM (ONvIw)

https://tinyurl.com/ykdemfey

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 04:06 PM (dNqv+)

92 A Kong also has a cavity that can be stuffed with treats.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 04:06 PM (eGTCV)

93 Yes, enthusiastic yes, to prong collars. You don't need to use them for long, just during training. They don't injure the pupper, but they very effectively communicate and teach.
Posted by: Mongerel

It is an excellent training tool. The key to training is to develop a conditioned response to a command by isolating either the desired response or prohibiting the unwanted behavior. So for example, the heel command is an important structural command (my experience is with versatile hunting dogs) and the pinch collar is perfect to immediately correct the dogs desire to walk you. It is self correcting and then you associate it with a heel command. You don't need to be an expert but it helps to simply seek out friendly advise and train with someone occasionally. It's fun. Dogs teach you a lot about yourself and you develop patience in other endeavors.

Posted by: 7man at February 05, 2022 04:06 PM (qwO6y)

94 Yeah, I don't know how anyone could do this on their own. Thankfully there are two of us raising them and our 19 year old is doing college from home and he helps too.
Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 03:54 PM (BJKQV)


When my Dolly had cancer, I'd drive her from San Jose to Sacramento - about 2-3 hours each way for vitamin C IV twice a week. So, it was an all-day thing. Once, just once I tried taking her there by herself, and that was a no-go with both dogs. So, I'd pack them both up twice a week for our all-day outing. Daisy would lie down next to her sister for her treatments, which took an hour to an hour and a half. Boring, yes, but they were together and happy.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:06 PM (wAnMi)

95 85 Prayers sent, 29Victor.
Both your pups are adorable. I'm a little partial to Daisy though, as my red & white part cocker passed away 1 1/2 years ago.

Last year I ended up adopting 2 cocker puppies and I am so glad I did.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 05, 2022 04:02 PM (NpAcC)

Thank you redridinghood. I need some advice - did any of your cockers get Cherry Eye? If so, do you have any advice on treating it?

Daisy has it in both eyes. We give her an eye ointment (the drops are unavailable - thanks Brandon) which help some, and the vet says she can get a surgery for them when she's full grown, but it would be nice if we could do something about it now.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:07 PM (BJKQV)

96 Those squeekers are probably the longest living I have gotten for him. Maybe a year and a half.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 04:07 PM (dNqv+)

97 Is a pinch collar the same as a "choke chain"?

Anyway, I use a choke chain with our dogs. No, it doesn't choke them.

To let your dog know it shouldn't be doing something or needs to pay attention, you give the collar a little jerk and in momentarily tightens.

It's very effective, particularly in younger dogs. I think the reason a choke chain works is because it sorta mimics a Momma dog correcting her pup.

If you've ever raised pups, you'll notice that when Mom doesn't like what the pup is doing. She'll give the pup a quick nip on the neck to correct it.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 05, 2022 04:09 PM (5NkmN)

98 Thank you !
Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 03:45 PM (arJlL)


It's a cool design, imagine a snowman with 3 spheres large to small. So they bounce crazy, and you can shove them full of treats to keep the dogs busy in their crates for a long time. Kong even makes something like cheeze-whiz to fill them up with a milk-bone or similar crunchies. I take a slice of cooked sweet potato and mush it in there. Somehow this little dog manages to lick it all out!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:09 PM (wAnMi)

99 Knew a dog that would only jump on people that allowed it. They were all women.

Some kind of deception on the dogs part. Attention needs or doggy drugs. ( treats)

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 05, 2022 04:09 PM (ynzDx)

100 It is an excellent training tool. The key to training is to develop a conditioned response to a command by isolating either the desired response or prohibiting the unwanted behavior
Posted by: 7man at February 05, 2022 04:06 PM (qwO6y)

Our Rosie is a 10-month-old Golden. She's usually okay on the leash except when she gets excited (and she gets excited a lot). Is she too old for something like that - the prong collar I mean.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:10 PM (BJKQV)

101 When walking a dog, never let it eat just anything it encounters. There is a lot of stuff out there in the environment that is just plain old toxic to dogs. The aforementioned dog owner had an encounter with an acorn, something commonplace and organic, still it led to the demise of the dog.
On leash, if my dog wants to eat something, I restrain it. There is a fine line between sniffing and eating.
Off leash, nothing to be done of course.
Dogs are sort of like, eat first, puke later if there's a problem.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 05, 2022 04:11 PM (jTmQV)

102 92 A Kong also has a cavity that can be stuffed with treats.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 04:06 PM (eGTCV)

My wife bought a special Kong spray cheese can to spray into it because apparently having money in our bank account causes her physical pain. It makes it hard as heck to clean the darn thing out.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:12 PM (BJKQV)

103 Posted by: Ann Wilson, aka Empire 1 at February 05, 2022 04:02 PM (JJatH)

Prayers for your sister, Ann

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 05, 2022 04:12 PM (lCui1)

104 I got Jake some unstuffed plush animals. He really loved those. Now he has a plush elephant with really long legs. He's starting to lose stuffing so will probably need to be theown out soon. He also took over this tubular cat bed out of plush fabric. He will just space out holding it in his mouth. He's an odd dog.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 04:12 PM (YynYJ)

105 Shopping for prong collars now. I think I knew some Punks back in HS who wore those. Did nothing for their discipline though.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:13 PM (BJKQV)

106 Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:10 PM

Not at all. Remember it's simply a tool to reach a point where you could, if you so desire, walk the dog on the heel command with no leash

Posted by: 7man at February 05, 2022 04:14 PM (qwO6y)

107 My cat also has gi lymphoma, been going on two years, try cerinea with the steroids (anti nausea) it seems to keep it under control

Posted by: Caren at February 05, 2022 04:15 PM (vzLRM)

108 If aliens are nice like you guys then i want to be a part time pet. I'm still free ranging.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 05, 2022 04:15 PM (ynzDx)

109 There is a rather disappointing lack of jive turkeys on this thread.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Wrecker. Hoarder. Honker. at February 05, 2022 04:15 PM (II3Gr)

110 91: I had considered this, have you had luck. Normally any real flexibility makes the indestructible, destructible.

Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 04:15 PM (ONvIw)

111 A woman's leg for humping reasons I assume.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 05, 2022 03:20 PM (UHVv4)

I was watching the "Sad Dog Diary" on the intertube today. One dog said the cat told him that if you hump anything long enough it will turn into a vagina.

https://tinyurl.com/2p89mwdh

Posted by: Javems at February 05, 2022 04:16 PM (AmoqO)

112 The thing that made me saddest about that pup is you can be so careful and still have something bad happen. We keep having bones show up in the yard. Most look like chicken bones but one last week looked like a T bone. I take them away when he finds one but sometimes he'll eat it before I can get it. Then I stress for days. I think the crows might be responsible.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 04:16 PM (YynYJ)

113 96 Those squeekers are probably the longest living I have gotten for him. Maybe a year and a half.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 05, 2022 04:07 PM (dNqv+)

Thanks

Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 04:17 PM (ONvIw)

114 Last year I ended up adopting 2 cocker puppies and I am so glad I did.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 05, 2022 04:02 PM (NpAcC)
Thank you redridinghood. I need some advice - did any of your cockers get Cherry Eye? If so, do you have any advice on treating it?
Daisy has it in both eyes. We give her an eye ointment (the drops are unavailable - thanks Brandon) which help some, and the vet says she can get a surgery for them when she's full grown...
Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:07 PM (BJKQV)


Sorry to hear, poor Daisy. I'm a spaniel kook. I had gotten my parents a cocker back in the 80's - and fell in love with the breed. When my mother was older I tried Cavaliers, but due to unforeseen circumstances wound up with the 2 littermates I mentioned above. Did finally get one for my mom though! I now have a new pup Cavalier.

One of my mom's dogs that I cared for had some eye issues, I actually found that the Systane gel worked as well as the prescription goop. Expect ALL prescription meds to become scarce thanks to Brandon - I mentioned this a couple of months back thanks to a warning from a friend who works ICU. Give it a try!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:18 PM (wAnMi)

115 Dogs are sort of like, eat gulp first, puke later if there's a problem.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 05, 2022 04:11 PM (jTmQV)

FIFY

Posted by: Fox2! at February 05, 2022 04:19 PM (qyH+l)

116 From the dog collar article:

Forcing a prong collar on a creature that can not properly communicate with you is an extremely unfair power play that asserts an unfair dominance.

Probably about the dumbest reasoning I've ever seen.

Wonder what they think about castrating animals without being able to properly discuss the issue with your pet?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 05, 2022 04:24 PM (Rfm/k)

117 I just got a no-pull harness for my dog, so the college student I hire to walk her wouldn't have a really hard time with her pulling the way she normally does (wouldn't trust anyone else with a prong collar, and there's no way I can give her a decent walk any longer).

Does anyone have any experience with those, and how well they work?

Posted by: Ann Wilson, aka Empire 1 at February 05, 2022 04:24 PM (JJatH)

118 I bought the German brand prong collar they talk about it in the video I posted.

Choke collars are just links with rings at the end. They tighten up, if put on correctly, and then release. Great tool for many breeds. The prong collars have the addition of curved prongs that point at the neck. They are blunt. If you have a dog with a muscular neck or one that pulls badly, they seem to work better at tightening to get the dog to respond. A choke collar doesn't slow Jake down. I put the prong collar on him once, took him outside the fence and had no problems with him. When the weather grts better, I want to get some good treats and work with him.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 04:25 PM (YynYJ)

119 My wife bought a special Kong spray cheese can to spray into it because apparently having money in our bank account causes her physical pain. It makes it hard as heck to clean the darn thing out.
Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:12 PM (BJKQV)


I was gonna get that stuff until I read the ingredients (Milk, water, soybean oil, whey...). As I mentioned, I'll bake a yam/sweet potato in 400 degree oven for about 40 minutes or so (poke a couple holes in it - direct on rack foil under to catch drippings), then peel the skin off. You can then cut long sections off and shove into the big hole end, and just sort of smoosh it. It's good for the pooch, insanely cheap and I haven't met a dog yet that doesn't like yams - especially baked like that they get all sugary. Did I mention cheap?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:25 PM (wAnMi)

120 29Victor if you can't find the medication due to Brandon's incompetence some people have had luck with warm compresses and massage.

clutch cargo - love spaniels, especially cavaliers and cockers. They melt my heart.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 05, 2022 04:25 PM (NpAcC)

121 Prayers for your Sis Ann. Losing a baby is the worst thing ever.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 05, 2022 04:26 PM (mD/uy)

122 Sorry for your loss, Ann. Heartbreaking.

Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 04:27 PM (ONvIw)

123
There is a rather disappointing lack of jive turkeys on this thread.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Wrecker. Hoarder. Honker. at February 05, 2022 04:15 PM (II3Gr)

I don't know if any Morons even have pet turkeys. But if any do, I'm sure they're cool turkeys. Not jive turkeys.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2022 04:28 PM (Cf/uA)

124 Does anyone have any experience with those, and how well they work?
Posted by: Ann Wilson, aka Empire 1 at February 05, 2022 04:24 PM (JJatH)

In my experience, a harness of any kind simply encourages pulling because there is no discomfort.

YMMV.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at February 05, 2022 04:28 PM (OX9vb)

125 We used to buy those little toy mice for the cats. Soft, with a string tail and whiskers. They'd lose them under furniture within 10 minutes, so I bought a bag of 2 dozen.

I have 4 remaining and to be honest, a modest effort to look under the furniture resulted in only 3 being found.

Surely they haven't been consumed... or have they?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 05, 2022 04:29 PM (BFigT)

126
Prayers for your Sis Ann. Losing a baby is the worst thing ever.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 05, 2022 04:26 PM (mD/uy)

+1. I can't even imagine.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2022 04:29 PM (Cf/uA)

127 105 Shopping for prong collars now. I think I knew some Punks back in HS who wore those. Did nothing for their discipline though.
Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:13 PM (BJKQV)

Herm Springer is the best brand

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 05, 2022 04:30 PM (lCui1)

128 The loss was over a decade ago, but yeah, it still hurts, and when I saw that lovely memorial bracelet, I knew I had to get it for her. Thank y'all for the prayers -- I knew I could count on you!

Posted by: Ann Wilson, aka Empire 1 at February 05, 2022 04:30 PM (JJatH)

129 Probably about the dumbest reasoning I've ever seen.

No shit. If I could sit down, over a cup of coffee, and explain to the dog why not fighting the leash was important - I would.

Might as well not swat a baby's ass for sticking a fork in a light socket either, I reckon.

Posted by: Cause and Effect at February 05, 2022 04:31 PM (nI61m)

130 Prayers for your Sis Ann. Losing a baby is the worst thing ever.
Posted by: Tonypete

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 04:32 PM (arJlL)

131 -
Warren G Harding's eulogy for his dog:

https://tinyurl.com/yjwkx2au

Posted by: irright at February 05, 2022 04:32 PM (NTUk0)

132 Does anyone have any experience with those, and how well they work?
Posted by: Ann Wilson, aka Empire 1 at February 05, 2022 04:24 PM (JJatH)


Yes. They're not the best thing to use for training (it's a lazy way to accomplish no-pulling), but they work. Not a replacement for choke-chain obedience. They're especially good for puppies, and cut down on neck/shoulder/back injuries which are common. Cons: The dogs can wriggle out of them - or free one leg. Pros: Saved my dog's life once. Some @$%^&! had his pitbull running free in his front yard, and as I walked by (it was hidden behind truck) it came running full tilt at my pup. I used the lead to pick the dog up and she was in my arms in a fraction of a second, giving me time to plant my foot in the dogs face. The owner thought he was going to do something about it until he noticed I had a good 6 inches and 50 lbs on him. Cute dog does not equal cute owner.

I've noticed some new and interesting designs, but stuck with the aforementioned brand with my new baby - Puppia.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:33 PM (wAnMi)

133 It's good for the pooch, insanely cheap and I haven't met a dog yet that doesn't like yams - especially baked like that they get all sugary. Did I mention cheap?
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:25 PM (wAnMi)

Thanks. Cheap though? I don't know if my will go for that. Maybe if we get non GMO, organic, gluten-free, heritage yams.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:33 PM (BJKQV)

134
Herm Springer is the best brand
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 05, 2022 04:30 PM (lCui1)

Thank you.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:35 PM (BJKQV)

135 In my experience, a harness of any kind simply encourages pulling because there is no discomfort.

YMMV.
Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at February 05, 2022 04:28 PM (OX9vb)


I agree, or not as much discomfort as a choke chain. I think some brands/designs cut into their armpits, but honestly I think they get used to it. And some look like they put all of the "pull" pressure on their chest - so it's totally comfortable. I think the only advantage is that you can yank on the dog and not hurt them in any way.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:36 PM (wAnMi)

136 Thanks. Cheap though? I don't know if my will go for that. Maybe if we get non GMO, organic, gluten-free, heritage yams.
Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:33 PM (BJKQV)


Farmer's market makes everything good. I just gave my pooch a kong with yam in it not an hour ago, and she's worn herself out and sleeping away.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:38 PM (wAnMi)

137 I had to look up both lickit pads and no pull harness. I thought the no pull harness would be a kind of gentle leader collar with the loop over the nose, but no it is a harness. Toby has a harness cuz his neck is so big a collar will come off him. But the gentle leader collars seem like they would be more effective to stop pulling if it is a bigger dog that can pull hard.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 05, 2022 04:39 PM (3cGpq)

138 I just wanted to thank anyone who was around earlier and prayed for me, as I was officiating as a committal service (They aren't actually getting married till April and that is a being done by a cousin in a secular thing up in New England)
but they wanted to do this for the grandmother who is dying of cancer. Anyway, It all went well. They are a nice young couple.

And to keep it on the theme of pets, there was a lovely dog-looked like a long haired Dalmation that greeted me affectonately as I drove in and parked. The grandmother looks after the dog when her son is at work because he doesn't want to leave it at his house all day and the grandmother and the dog love each other. I have met the dog before when I go to visit and the dog is very sweet He lay down quite contentedly on a chair while the service went on. I think he is kind of an old dog; His tongue hangs out.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2022 04:39 PM (dprVF)

139 Actually I misgendered the dog. It is a she and her name is Belle.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2022 04:40 PM (dprVF)

140 Good afternoon, Horde. I love the Pet Morons. And Jewell's Barney looks so very sweet.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 05, 2022 04:40 PM (+4oV5)

141 . I think he is kind of an old dog; His tongue hangs out.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Mebbe he wanted a beer !

Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 04:41 PM (arJlL)

142 The Mrs. and I were looking at a steers today - one a Longhorn and the other a Watusi. I had never heard of them before:

https://is.gd/OG6B2W

If we only get one - that's a pet right? I think we are going to need a bigger place.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 05, 2022 04:42 PM (mD/uy)

143 Hiya Ladyl !

Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 04:42 PM (arJlL)

144 Posted by: JT at February 05, 2022 04:41 PM (arJlL)

. LOL .I don't think they had beer there, but some people seemed to be drinking the alcoholic version of a Shirley Temple-which I didn't know had an alcoholic version.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2022 04:43 PM (dprVF)

145 Conor says "Hello Ladyl !"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 05, 2022 04:44 PM (hOUT3)

146 Hi Ladyl! yes Barney is adorable and I have no doubt he'll be adopted quickly. Kudos to Jan, our adoption coordinator for her hard work. These people are just angels. I admire them all so much.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 04:45 PM (nxdel)

147 I've tried lots of stuff on Jake. Harness was no help. I tried a Halti (around the muzzle) and he hated that. Back when I went to obedince training with the goldens, there was a man there with a bull terrier. He used a prong collar, so I lnew about them. This is the first dog I need one for. When he gets to the end of the lead, he flattens down, braces his legs and pulls. He could easily pull me over. He's gotten pretty good on a 30ft lead but I'd like to be able to walk him on a short lead.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 04:45 PM (YynYJ)

148 Glad it went well Fenelon. Belle sounds super cute.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 04:45 PM (nxdel)

149 She is cute; I wish I knew what kind of breed it is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2022 04:46 PM (dprVF)

150 Cons: The dogs can wriggle out of them - or free one leg.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:33 PM (wAnMi)

Yep. Our Golden found a mud puddle, went hyper, spun around and bowed. Zing! The harness was off and she was in the street.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 05, 2022 04:48 PM (BJKQV)

151 Fenelon, I just looked and there is indeed a long hair dalamtion breed. Or ya know.. maybe just some funny business went on lol!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 04:49 PM (nxdel)

152 Paisley freaked out when I tried to put a harness on her. I need to find a place where she can run freely.
I feel she is attached enough that she will come back when I call. But who knows.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 04:49 PM (eGTCV)

153 As mentioned on yesterday's ONT, there is a cat living with me now.

Today I'm a bit worried. He's spent the whole day (apart from one brief petting session) sleeping under the bed.

Maybe he's just tired. He was running around a lot yesterday. I'd forgotten that not only do we treasure our pets, we also worry about them.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 05, 2022 03:23 PM (m0zqP)

They stay up all night and sleep all day. Also could just be adjusting. When we had our friends daughter cat sit for us for a few days our cat went under the bed for a while then he adjusted and they are good friend.

Glad you have a cat, I hope you become best friends !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 05, 2022 04:52 PM (M+Lyo)

154 Darn if I didn't catch myself thinking about it being almost time for OM's Chess Thread...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 05, 2022 04:53 PM (hOUT3)

155 Adorable pictures of the furry family members.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2022 04:53 PM (dprVF)

156 Some of the no pull harnesses have a ring on the side where the leash is attached, rather than at the top.

The idea is that when the dog pulls, you are pulling it back toward you, so its forward progress is interrupted. It will supposedly learn not to pull if it wants to go forward.

Again, bulldogs are stubborn, and they just don't care.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at February 05, 2022 04:54 PM (OX9vb)

157 I wouldn't say there's no place for prong collars, but I've found that other options that redirect are more effective. Muzzle leads are an option for most dogs. They turn the head when the dog pulls, and the harder they pull the more they turn away from the direction they want to focus on. Similarly, body harnesses with lead clips on the chest, not back, work great for all dogs. They're a little easier for the dog to resist to some extent, but they still force the dog to turn away from the direction they want to pull. In both cases the dogs figure it out on their own pretty quick and pulling behaviors will usually stop within just a few walks.

One of the main drawbacks with the prong collars is that they operate low on the neck. Dogs have a strong instinct to act against force on that area so they can actually contribute to generating the sort of energy you're trying to train a dog out of.

Posted by: f2000 at February 05, 2022 04:54 PM (PWcd9)

158 Rascal the weiner dog we had briefly definitely had some funny business in his background. He had the long body but was way too big for a regular dachsund. Sadly we lost him after only a brief stay with us. I miss that little dude.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 04:55 PM (nxdel)

159 I'm thinking of hiring a cleaning lady but she has to be a dog lover.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 04:56 PM (eGTCV)

160 154 Darn if I didn't catch myself thinking about it being almost time for OM's Chess Thread...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 05, 2022 04:53 PM (hOUT3)

Me too.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 04:57 PM (eGTCV)

161 I think he is kind of an old dog; His tongue hangs out.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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*puts tape over laptop vid cam.*

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 05, 2022 04:57 PM (ju2Fy)

162 lol olddog!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 04:58 PM (nxdel)

163 And to keep it on the theme of pets, there was a lovely dog-looked like a long haired Dalmation that greeted me affectonately as I drove in and parked. The grandmother looks after the dog when her son is at work because he doesn't want to leave it at his house all day and the grandmother and the dog love each other. I have met the dog before when I go to visit and the dog is very sweet He lay down quite contentedly on a chair while the service went on. I think he is kind of an old dog; His tongue hangs out.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2022 04:39 PM (dprVF)

There are some setters that look like that, English, Llewellyn .

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 05, 2022 04:58 PM (M+Lyo)

164 She is cute; I wish I knew what kind of breed it is.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2022 04:46 PM (dprVF)


I seem to learn about breeds I never knew about frequently. Just because the AKC doesn't recognize them doesn't mean they don't exist! And lots of breeds I thought I knew but was mistaken - like English Staffordshire Terrier - SO adorable! I fell in love with a pup a client had, except he wasn't a pup, he was a year and a half old! But he sure looked the part, and was much smaller than I imagined.

I've never heard of a long haired Dalmatian, but see that yup, they're sort of common! Oh, and the tongue hanging out can just be the poor girl lost some teeth. There's nothing to keep the tongue in otherwise.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at February 05, 2022 04:59 PM (wAnMi)

165 154 Darn if I didn't catch myself thinking about it being almost time for OM's Chess Thread...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

#metoo

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 05, 2022 05:00 PM (lCui1)

166 Nood. Thank you MisHum for a great pet thread.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at February 05, 2022 05:01 PM (nxdel)

167 WEEKEND HOBBY THREAD NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at February 05, 2022 05:01 PM (2JoB8)

168 English Setters can look a bit like long haired dalmatians

Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 05:02 PM (ONvIw)

169 It's probably sexist of me to assume a house cleaner would be a cleaning lady. I denounce myself.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at February 05, 2022 05:03 PM (eGTCV)

170 There are some setters that look like that, English, Llewellyn .
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 05, 2022 04:58 PM (M+Lyo)

Yes, very lovely markings

Posted by: CN The First at February 05, 2022 05:03 PM (ONvIw)

171 "135 In my experience, a harness of any kind simply encourages pulling because there is no discomfort. "

Harnesses with lead clips on the back aren't appropriate for any dog you aren't trying to pick up by the lead (I'm not recommending it, just sayin'. Fine a 7 pound terrier or something you don't have to struggle with, but they do actively encourage pulling by feeding into a dogs oppositional instinct. Those harnesses shouldn't be confused with ones with clips on the chest.

Posted by: f2000 at February 05, 2022 05:04 PM (PWcd9)

172 I took up computer chess a month ago. I would have never thought of the idea if it weren't for O.M.'s thread. I wanted to at least try a puzzle answer, or at least understand what he was talking about.

Posted by: Quint at February 05, 2022 05:05 PM (DD/cP)

173 Try a 30ft lead. Dogs can run on them. I used to have a 50footer but they get tangled easily.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 05:06 PM (YynYJ)

174 169, yes, because that never happens. Chimney sweeps on the other hand.

Posted by: Quint at February 05, 2022 05:07 PM (DD/cP)

175 I've got a sneezing cat. "Little Noses"? That's what I used on a tiny kitten years ago.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 05, 2022 05:10 PM (Mzdiz)

176 "Try a 30ft lead. Dogs can run on them. "

The problem comes when they run to the end of them. Lots of velocity generated in those 30ft that has to be managed somehow.

Posted by: f2000 at February 05, 2022 05:12 PM (PWcd9)

177 I just move as they run, so they can't just go straight. Works for my dog. And I do pull in the lead at times when I want more control.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 05:16 PM (YynYJ)

178 Okay, so after making me worry ALL DAY, cat just popped out from under the bed, wandered over to say hi, then went back under the bed. So he's fine. Glad to finally know.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 05, 2022 05:45 PM (m0zqP)

179 There seems to be a bad upper respiratory virus in cats this year.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 05, 2022 05:54 PM (YynYJ)

180 OK, so if I use the chest attachment, the dog walker should have fewer problems than with either her collar or the back attachment on the harness. Thanks, because like I said, I'm not sure I'd trust a college student with a prong collar (or even a choke chain) on an 8-year-old dog.

Posted by: Ann Wilson, aka Empire 1 at February 05, 2022 06:05 PM (JJatH)

181 Prong collars are just a tool. Properly used they cause no harm to the dog. If you never used one, find a qualified trainer to teach you how. Properly used, its way safer and less chance of harming a dog than when I see people yanking with all their might on a standard flat collar or choking their dog on an sll which they don't know how to use.

Posted by: MW at February 05, 2022 06:32 PM (+6ejJ)

182 120 29Victor if you can't find the medication due to Brandon's incompetence
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I read that as Brandon's incontinence.
It works.

Posted by: Ciampino at February 05, 2022 09:30 PM (qfLjt)

183 With our German Shepherd, I did two things I swore I would never do: use a crate and a choke collar. The XO took her to puppy manner class and came back with both. I thought both were cruel and inhumane. Turned out that her crate was her happy place. She could just go in there and avoid being run over by the other dog, the four kids, and the two cats. In her prime, she weighed over a hundred pounds. The XO had the arm and upper body strength to stop her. I could exert a little control with the pinch collar. Not that she was a bad girl; she just got a little excited on occation

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- bitterly clinging to the deplorable life '70s style! at February 05, 2022 10:42 PM (vMM2s)

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