Sunday Morning Book Thread 01-16-2022 [All Hail Eris]

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This militarized bookmobile is giving me ideas...wonderful ideas!

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Good morning to you all from the stately Dungeon of Discord. Welcome once again to the classy and luxurious Sunday Morning Book Thread, that plushly appointed mosh pit of opinion, snark, choler, jest and japery, and our continuing conversation on books, reading, writing, and the culture at large. While OregonMuse is recovering from the effects of prolonged use of Pervitin, I will toss together this placesetter Book Thread with my usual slugabed skrimshankery. And please feel free to lounge poolside in your HQ shorty robe. I don't impose harsh moral strictures or expect my readers to obey outmoded notions of decency. If you want to study Schrödinger starkers/not starkers, who am I to judge? Your natural right to cavort pantsless Shall. Not. Be. Infringed! Nor will I judge you for bowing to convention and wearing pants. Even if it's these pants, that could be worn at a Klingon blood ritual/BBQ. So join us in Ace's Grotto for some light refreshment and convivial conversation, and tell us what you've been reading!

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Who dis:

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'A man ought to read just as inclination leads him; for what he reads as a task will do him little good.'

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It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

ABECEDARIAN - (i) Arranged in alphabetical order; (ii) elementary, devoid of sophistication.

AN ABECEDARIAN INSULT: "Sir, you are an apogenous, bovaristic, coprolalial, dasypygal, excerebrose, facinorous, gnathonic, hircine, ithyphallic, jumentous, kyphonic, labrose, mephitic, napiform, oligophrenial, papuliferous, quisquilian, rebarbative, saponaceous, thersitical, unguinous, ventripotent, wlatsome, xylocephalous, yirning zoophyte!" (Translation: "Sir, you are an impotent, conceited, obscene, hairy-buttocked, brainless, wicked, toadying, goatish, indecent, stable-smelling, hunch-backed, thick-lipped, stinking, turnip-shaped, feeble-minded, pimply, trashy, repellant, smarmy, foul-mouthed, greasy, gluttonous, loathsome, wooded-headed, whining, extremely low form of animal life.")

((The above from "The Superior Person's Book of Words" by Peter Bowler, an essential volume in every Horde library))

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A brief history of the codpiece (from Middle English: cod, meaning "bag, scrotum")

The hard part is finding shoes to match your bag.

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I believe I linked to the Biblioburros of rural Columbia many threads ago. I was reminded of them when I placed a hold on a book after reading a good review of it in the Epoch Times - "The Book Woman of Troublesome Creek: A Novel" by Kim Michele Richardson. Anybody read it? The Amazon blurblet says "The hardscrabble folks of Troublesome Creek have to scrap for everything---everything except books, that is. Thanks to Roosevelt's Kentucky Pack Horse Library Project, Troublesome's got its very own traveling librarian, Cussy Mary Carter." Alas for Cussie, she is one of Appalachia's "Blue People" (a fictionalized verson of the Fugate family of Troublesome Creek and Ball Creek, KY who carried the recessive methemoglobinemia gene) so she will have to confront prejudice. Sounds very Book Club-y, but it is supposed to to describe the people and land very vividly so we shall see.

The Pack Horse Librarians of Eastern Kentucky

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Is there an author I love more "problematic" than H.P. Lovecraft? My very love itself is problematic (he referred to my tribe as "stunted brachycephalic South-Italians")! And yet I care not that his tentacles are colonizing my brain like a shoggoth. Here's a passage from the short story "The Hound", in which the protagonists, having lived a life of increasing hyper-depravity, become grave-robbers. "Only the sombre philosophy of the Decadents could hold us, and this we found potent only by increasing gradually the depth and diabolism of our penetrations. Baudelaire and Huysmans were soon exhausted of thrills, till finally there remained for us only the more direct stimuli of unnatural personal experiences and thrills."

What ungood authors do you like?

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Well that's it for this week. Get better, OregonMuse!

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Comments

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1 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 09:00 AM (2JoB8)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 16, 2022 09:00 AM (arJlL)

3 Who Dis is Dr. Samuel Johnson.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 16, 2022 09:02 AM (PiwSw)

4 OM we miss you

Little bit to go on Enemy at the Gates and picked up on Kindle the essential reading Julie Kelly's new book January 6

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 09:03 AM (2JoB8)

5 I concur with our Open Blogger: Get better OregonMuse!

Thanks for the thread OB.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 16, 2022 09:03 AM (CCwsu)

6 If the pants guy doesn't wanna own a weedwhacker, ain't my bidness !

Posted by: JT at January 16, 2022 09:03 AM (arJlL)

7 Morning, Horde...How goes it? I'm currently reading the Northwest Smith series of stories by C.L. Moore. She, along with her husband Henry Kuttner, was part of Lovecraft's circle of writers. The Northwest Smith series is a great combination of weird tales, fantasy, and science fiction. Her other series, Jirel of Joiry, is a strong, female character without the wokeness.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 09:04 AM (K5n5d)

8 Oops, Thanks All Hail Eris.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 16, 2022 09:04 AM (CCwsu)

9 Good morning, all! Sitting with my coffee, trying to get the fire going again.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:04 AM (QZxDR)

10 The who dis is Joan Rivers .

Posted by: JT at January 16, 2022 09:04 AM (arJlL)

11 Good morning. Never got into Lovecraft.

Posted by: CN at January 16, 2022 09:04 AM (ONvIw)

12 Fingers are still froze, should get read a bit until they warm up, or maybe Stalingrad in January 1943 will keep them froze

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 09:04 AM (2JoB8)

13 No reading this week, again!

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 16, 2022 09:05 AM (yrol0)

14 That bookmobile looks like a Weasel project.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 09:05 AM (7bRMQ)

15 Hiya Eris !

Nice Thread !

Posted by: JT at January 16, 2022 09:05 AM (arJlL)

16 In the year 2525...if man is still alive

It did not even guess if books would be involved

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 16, 2022 09:06 AM (F4DJi)

17 Nice Book Mobile!

Those pants....Fit right in at a GWAR concert.

The Who Dis is the Invisible Man.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 16, 2022 09:06 AM (R/m4+)

18 I thought that might be Sam Johnson. His definition of oats among other things would make him persona non grata today. And that's great.

I'm reading a volume of 4 short crime/mystery stories by P.D. James, and have 2 other volumes of hers on my desk. The local public libraries are back to the face diaper nonsense, so I can't go in. I can send Miss Linda; she has no trouble with muzzling up. But I have to tell her specific authors to look for. If not, she'll bring me some modern thing with mostly female characters, men considered as a separate and inferior species, etc.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 09:06 AM (c6xtn)

19 >>> ithyphallic

Fish dick?

Posted by: fluffy at January 16, 2022 09:07 AM (UnQlg)

20 The Johnson sketch on Blackadder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSYiT2iG08

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 16, 2022 09:07 AM (PiwSw)

21 Hmmmmm....
I'm thinking These Pants look an awful lot like dr Jill's fishnet stockings.
Not that I'm judging mind you. Just sayin'

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 09:08 AM (axyOa)

22 Hmmm, I'm not sure what's more alarming - the picture that Eris used or the fact that she had it readily available. Not sure what search terms one would use.

Gotta love the guy having *draw* his muscle definition.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:09 AM (llXky)

23 Fish dick?

Posted by: fluffy at January 16, 2022 09:07 AM (UnQlg)

Better than itchyphallic....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 09:09 AM (7bRMQ)

24 I found another collection of Christie mini-mysreries. The mysterious Mr. Quin. The first one was enjoyable, so I think this will be bedtime reading for a couple of weeks.
It was a cheap ThriftBooks purchase.

Posted by: CN at January 16, 2022 09:09 AM (ONvIw)

25 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. It is damn cold, cloudy with a chance of snow and ice. We don't have to go out for anything. A good day for reading and making a big pot of clean out the fridge soup.

Posted by: JTB at January 16, 2022 09:09 AM (7EjX1)

26 This week I read a fun monograph by Kate Coldiron about the legendary bad movie _Plan 9 From Outer Space_. She goes into the different kinds of bad movies (Plan 9 more or less sweeps the categories), and does a scene-by-scene breakdown of just how the movie fails so magnificently. She even gives Ed Wood credit for the few things he does right -- lighting, some neatly-done transitions, and . . . not much else.

She also talks about what one can learn from bad movies. Her notion is that if you understand how a movie is bad, you know more about how to make them good than if you just watch good ones.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:09 AM (QZxDR)

27 Who Dis is Charles Laughton.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at January 16, 2022 09:10 AM (TFA9K)

28 18. Thinking of turning woke author?

Posted by: CN at January 16, 2022 09:10 AM (ONvIw)

29 Many thanks to AHE for another book thread. It is such an important part of my weekend.

Prayers continue for OM and Mrs. OM for a quick, complete recovery.

Posted by: JTB at January 16, 2022 09:11 AM (7EjX1)

30 BOOKEN MORGEN HORDEN!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 09:11 AM (lCui1)

31 Little bit to go on Enemy at the Gates and picked up on Kindle the essential reading Julie Kelly's new book January 6

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 09:03 AM (2JoB
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Have you got the part where the Soviets starve the prisoners for fun and amusement until they start eating each other - at first after they die, later just killing and knowing and this freaks out the guards, who shoot the cannibals and increase the rations for the survivors? Happy reading, that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:11 AM (llXky)

32 Today looks like a good day to stay inside and read.

And make Brunswick Stew.

Posted by: Miklos has a Plan at January 16, 2022 09:11 AM (QzkSJ)

33 And make Brunswick Stew.

Posted by: Miklos has a Plan at January 16, 2022 09:11 AM (QzkSJ)

Leftover, or New?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 09:13 AM (7bRMQ)

34 She also talks about what one can learn from bad movies. Her notion is that if you understand how a movie is bad, you know more about how to make them good than if you just watch good ones.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:09 AM (QZxDR)
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Yes, it can be very difficult to look at a work of genius and point to all the ways it's great.

All my fiction is based on flawed works because it's easier to improve them than imitate genius.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:13 AM (llXky)

35 Also started _The Light Age_ by Seb Falk, which I think was a Moron recommendation some months ago.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:13 AM (QZxDR)

36 I'm finishing the Iron Vikings (book 4) recommended previously here.
Well written SF is a pleasure to read.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 16, 2022 09:14 AM (CCwsu)

37 I've got lots of time to read now that my 6AM zoom meeting was cancelled until 1...and NOBODY TOLD ME!!!

Damn east coasters.

So I'm reading about a year in the life of a guy who was with the 101st in VietNam as a Long Range Patrol team member. It is a good read.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 09:14 AM (axyOa)

38 Lloyd: that's why being part of a workshop and critiquing others' writing helped my own immensely. I got to see What Not To Do.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:14 AM (QZxDR)

39 A brief history of the codpiece (from Middle English: cod, meaning "bag, scrotum")

The hard part is finding shoes to match your bag.



Caution-many "Codpieces" are made from cheaper types of fish

Posted by: Miklos has a Warning at January 16, 2022 09:14 AM (QzkSJ)

40 Who Dis is Charles Laughton.
Posted by: Biden's Dog at January 16, 2022


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He'd have made a good Dr. Johnson.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 09:15 AM (c6xtn)

41 Rereading the Wheel of Time series, but I will probably only read the first three books and maybe the last one.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2022 09:15 AM (mpXpK)

42 So I'm reading about a year in the life of a guy who was with the 101st in VietNam as a Long Range Patrol team member. It is a good read.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 09:14 AM (axyOa)
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My uncle was in the 101st during the Tet offensive, LZ Sally. I understand it was not a pleasant experience.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:15 AM (llXky)

43 Posted by: CN at January 16, 2022 09:09 AM (ONvIw)

She also has a collection of what I would describe as "eerie" stories called The Golden Ball and Other Stories. I read it a couple of times when I was younger. Don't know if the stories hold up at this point.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 09:15 AM (nC+QA)

44 By the way, I don't think that's an armed Bookmobile in the photo. That pipe looks like a stove flue, or possibly a re-routed engine exhaust.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:15 AM (QZxDR)

45 Good morning morons and thank you Eris

A prayer for om's complete and speedy healing

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 16, 2022 09:15 AM (EZebt)

46 Leftover, or New?
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Future leftovers

Posted by: Miklos has a Big Pot at January 16, 2022 09:16 AM (QzkSJ)

47 Lloyd: that's why being part of a workshop and critiquing others' writing helped my own immensely. I got to see What Not To Do.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:14 AM (QZxDR)
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I spent much of my teens and 20s trying to recreate the brilliance of Lord of the Rings. In my 30s I got the notion that there was so much crap out there that I'd have an easier time trying to make a marginally better version of that stuff.

Thus Battle Officer Wolf was born.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:17 AM (llXky)

48 8. Thinking of turning woke author?
Posted by: CN at January 16, 2022


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Not if I can help it. I wouldn't be able to finish my stuff, or if I did, to reread it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 09:17 AM (c6xtn)

49 Kate Coldiron? I wonder if she ever gets sick...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 16, 2022 09:18 AM (PiwSw)

50 My other ThriftBooks are The Power and the Glory, The Rape of Nanking, and Seasoned Timber (Canfield Fisher).
I started with The Power and the Glory.

Posted by: CN at January 16, 2022 09:18 AM (ONvIw)

51 Hot Coffee!!!...one large Tolle Lege please...Tarawa what another shit show!!! I think they banned photo's of this place....makes Saving Private Ryan look like a Ladies Book Club re-enactment...

Posted by: Qmark at January 16, 2022 09:18 AM (emnp2)

52 Good morning, booklings!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 09:19 AM (Dc2NZ)

53 My zoom call reading club (and we are zoom because of geographic distance not Wu flu) is reading Neuromancer by William Gibson.

Kind of amazing how much influence cyberpunk has had on our culture but it's practically gone as a genre. Also it's apparent that Gibson was heavily influenced by the culture of the 80s. Like I didn't see the bits of Escape from New York in before. So ourobouros I guess.

Posted by: blaster at January 16, 2022 09:19 AM (mbFEM)

54 I looked up 'pervitin' ... seems unlikely that is OM's problem ...

... I suppose it's a stand-in for horse dewormer.

Is there any update on his condition ? And that of Mrs OM ?

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 09:20 AM (VXxTB)

55 43. These have an "eerie " quality at times, but I choose to overlook that, and enjoy Christie's sharp assessments of human character.

Posted by: CN at January 16, 2022 09:21 AM (ONvIw)

56 Writing Update: I burned out hard on Something Something Dragon last week. Trying to sift through the period after the fall of the Han Dynasty was a real chore.

So I just put everything down for a few days to give my brain a rest. Thursday I went to The Archives to see if they had any good sources and lo and behold, they did! The new books got me fired up as did a conversation with Mr. Curious Books himself, who recognized some of my purchases and said that an MSU prof specializing in China was selling off his collection and that more stuff would be hitting the shelves soon.

Sure glad I bought that new bookcase.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:21 AM (llXky)

57 Lovecraft isn't for everyone. He was writing in the 1920s and 1930s for pulp mags, but used a deliberately Victorian/Georgian style (and a Sam Johnson vocabulary). Modern illiterates who can't be bothered to type y-o-u instead of u will find his paragraph-length sentences hard to parse. He uses very little dialog, and frankly isn't very good at it.

But if you can ignore such superficial issues -- and aren't hobbled by contemporary dogma and witch-hunting -- the stories are awesome. Literally: they inspire awe and horror. HPL was an atheist who managed to convey a sense of numinousness better than almost anyone.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:21 AM (QZxDR)

58 52 Good morning, booklings!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 09:19 AM (Dc2NZ)


Thanks for your work, she-wolf.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 09:21 AM (VXxTB)

59 Show and Tell on Enemy at the Gates
As I do continually look up places while reading on Google maps. The Russians have a somewhat bizarre a bit monument at Tatsinskiy Aerodom which was the airstrip the Nazis were using to supply Stalingrad by air until the Russians drove armor and took it over.
Tatsinskiy Aerodrom
https://maps.app.goo.gl/3925t3u7bE7SLs987

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 09:23 AM (2JoB8)

60 My uncle was in the 101st during the Tet offensive, LZ Sally. I understand it was not a pleasant experience.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:15 AM (llXky)


It was not. Had several colleagues who were there then. Gen Westmorland blew it. Had good intel of the Tet buildup but was too focused on listening to the reports that supported his beliefs.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 09:24 AM (axyOa)

61 Part I


I read Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We Are The Prey by Peter and Ginger Breeggin. The authors are a married couple. Peter is a psychiatrist with a long career of efforts to reform the mental health field. Ginger has a journalism background and has been coauthor on several of her husband's books.


The global predators are most of the world's billionaires, globalists, big tech and pharma companies along with other large international corporations, and the Chinese Communist Party. From page 10 of the book, "As eerily unreal as it seems to us, our research for this book moved us inexorably toward the conclusion that Covid-19 has always been about making fortunes from rushed-through vaccines while weakening America and strengthening globalism." From page 37, "We did not imagine that this would be our conclusion - that the global predators, many of them Americans, have no allegiance other than their belief that the future is with Communist China."




Posted by: Zoltan at January 16, 2022 09:24 AM (EbbAh)

62 BTW, it wasn't just a deportation...

||Avi Yemini @OzraeliAvi; 6h
Novak Djokovic is BANNED from returning to Australia for three years because of thought crime.

Australia is officially the laughing stock of the world.||

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 09:24 AM (UHVv4)

63 Rape of Nanking is another read that shows man's inhumanity to man

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 09:24 AM (2JoB8)

64 I read The Sources For the Life of Christ by Francois Amiot, Jean Danielou, Amedee Brunot, and Henri Daniel-Rops. Published in 1962, this is a volume from "The Twentieth Century Encyclopedia of Catholicism." The authors examine the Gospels, Acts, the Epistles, and some early Christian writers from the viewpoint of the writers' missions and their target audiences. I found it quite informative and really helped put the New Testament within the context of the development of the early Church after the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. While the authors are French Catholic priests, this book appears to me to be of use to any Christian

For those interested, "The Twentieth Century Encyclopedia of Catholicism" was a combined French/America effort that often offered translated French Catholic books to English-speaking Catholics. The entire encyclopedia encompassed 149 small books published from the late 1950s to 1970. I have read several, and have found them to be quite orthodox in their Catholicism.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 16, 2022 09:24 AM (pJWtt)

65 I've said in the past that the biggest influence on my career as a writer was a book by Clive Cussler. It was unmitigated garbage, a stupid idea ineptly presented, yet I'm sure it sold millions of copies. That inspired me to write my own novels. If that shit can get published, so can I. It worked, too.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:25 AM (QZxDR)

66 Who Dis is Betty White

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 16, 2022 09:25 AM (sJHOI)

67 Reading 2 books- A Day in the Life of Ancient Rome (thanks to the Moron who rec'd it) - I flit around chapters
and The Rite: The Making of a Modern Exorcist by Matt Baglio - midway thru, very interesting.
Published in 2009, it seems like foreshadowing of the current troubles.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 09:26 AM (lCui1)

68 But if you can ignore such superficial issues -- and aren't hobbled by contemporary dogma and witch-hunting -- the stories are awesome. Literally: they inspire awe and horror. HPL was an atheist who managed to convey a sense of numinousness better than almost anyone.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:21 AM (QZxDR)
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He had a tremendous impact on the fantasy/horror genre at large. I'm always surprised as how much Lovecraftian horror I can find in other stories. The influence is often subtle, but definitely there.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 09:26 AM (K5n5d)

69 Sure glad I bought that new bookcase.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:21 AM (llXky)

Bought?? Why didn't you use me?!

Posted by: Ace's How to Build Shelving Book at January 16, 2022 09:26 AM (7bRMQ)

70 I have a recommendation that I feel awkward making.

Stormy Omartien's Power of the Praying Wife. It's set up in 31 categories so it makes for a good devotional. Each category has a bunch of Scripture references in the discussion, the prayer, and as "Power Tools" at the end of each category. Also, very (most?) importantly this is explicitly *not* a 'Lord, make him do what I want' book. It starts with the wife asking the Lord to change her heart and goes from there. I don't expect that everyone would agree with everything in it or find it all applicable, but neither does the author. I plan on giving a copy to each of my daughters as they get married and to my daughter-in-law when my Son marries.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 09:27 AM (nC+QA)

71 Tornado on ground 3 miles from us. Collier county FL. Its track is headed away now. Missed us by 1.5 miles.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 16, 2022 09:27 AM (KiBMU)

72 To date, most of my purchases are somewhat older (duh, used books cost less) and since I'm writing about the Ancient Days 'n' Stuff at this point, I don't need more modern info.

However, I did pick up a book on emperors published in 2009 and...wow. The ChiComs are laying it on thick.

I'm not sure how many people know or care about Pinyin vs Wave-Giles, but I'm coming to the conclusion that the development of Pinyin was motivated in part to allow the CCP to completely rewrite their history for Western audiences. They literally change every single name and do it in ways that seem to have no similarity to the older form.

Since Mandarin is a tonal language, it's also pointless because there is no way and English speaker can look at Pinyin words and pronounce them correctly. Anyway, I'm a rant about this because I need to cross-check something in the Pinyin book and of course the Wikipedia and much of the internet don't actually want to tell you the older form because CCP owns all of them now.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:27 AM (llXky)

73 Australia is officially the laughing stock of the world.||

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 09:24 AM (UHVv4)

Hold my diapers.

Posted by: Joe B at January 16, 2022 09:28 AM (7bRMQ)

74 What ungood authors do you like?


Fred Saberhagen.

The original Berserker.

Posted by: DaveA at January 16, 2022 09:28 AM (FhXTo)

75 Those pants aren't.

AAnd that's not a codpiece, it's a mutant horseshoecrabpiece.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 09:29 AM (m45I2)

76 Part II


The book is well documented with over 1100 endnotes. If reading an over 500-page book on the subject is daunting to you, I urge you to check out the book from the library and read the 40-page Chronology and Overview at the back of the book. It's an eye-opening, clear, concise account of how we got to the mess we are in.

Posted by: Zoltan at January 16, 2022 09:29 AM (EbbAh)

77 Bought?? Why didn't you use me?!

Posted by: Ace's How to Build Shelving Book at January 16, 2022 09:26 AM (7bRMQ)
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I'm a humble man. I lack Ace's ability to insert screws backwards.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:29 AM (llXky)

78 What I read while trying to shake off the Wuhan Flu:

Fighter General: The Life of Adolf Galland, Air War,
Winged Victory, Samurai!, I Flew for the Fuhrer, and have started into Flight to Arras.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 09:29 AM (KfrSF)

79 I received my free copy ("free" in that now I get bombarded with spam) from Andrew Branca of "The Law of Self Defense Principles." It's a relative short book; 148 pages, so I might finish it today.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 09:30 AM (smVBh)

80 Favorite "problematic author - The International Lord of Hate (ILOH) himself, Larry Correia. If you want to send a progressive reader into fits of rage, just mention his name. If you haven't read his "Monster Hunter International" and "Grimnoir Chronicles", you're missing out....

Posted by: Pave Low John at January 16, 2022 09:30 AM (PEsLS)

81 This week I finally... FINALLY ... finished volume 2 of Victor Klemperer's diaries of life in the Third Reich. I've never taken so long reading something before, it must have been 3 months at least. Partly it's because I'm getting old and don't have the ability to just sit and read for hours at a time as I could when I was young. Computer use probably has shortened my attention span. But it was also a grueling account of surviving against incredible odds. I made myself finish the whole thing, because I kept seeing more and more parallels with our present day tyranny. We're no longer at 1933 Germany, I think we've moved to about 1936 Germany.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette at January 16, 2022 09:31 AM (GT4tu)

82 I'm feeling a bit Italian this morning.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette at January 16, 2022 09:31 AM (GT4tu)

83 He had a tremendous impact on the fantasy/horror genre at large. I'm always surprised as how much Lovecraftian horror I can find in other stories. The influence is often subtle, but definitely there.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022


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I've never been a big Lovecraft fan, I thought. But when I was devising the world of my fantasy series, I found I was looking to his Elder Gods setup as a kind of model.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 09:31 AM (c6xtn)

84 Today I will revisit Clancy's "Into The Storm" written with GEN Fred Franks. It was 31 years ago today the Desert Storm kicked off.
I was with VII Corps Artillery. We started shooting just as the first bombs were dropping, shooting Air Defense targets for the Apache helicopters doing cross-FLOT missions. When it was all done, my guys (G-2) had processed 2,616 targets.
Jayhawk!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 09:31 AM (axyOa)

85 A once popular writer of novels, poetry, and essays, Christopher Morley (1890-1957) is largely forgotten. Many remember Ginger Rogers in the film version of his "Kitty Foyle" (1940).

Two light fictions that will delight many bookish morons are "Parnassus on Wheels" (1917) and its sequel, "The Haunted Bookshop" (1919). He takes a darker and more fantastic turn in "Thunder on the Left"
(1925).

Posted by: Brett at January 16, 2022 09:31 AM (DCf+C)

86 My recent WWII read: "Hell's Angels, the True Story of the 303rd Bomb Group" by Jay A. Stout.

From training to deployment to combat action, to post action capture by the Germans, so many incredible stories of individual bravery and sacrifice. I even mentioned this book in the Pet thread since some of the pilots smuggled a female terrier in their kit bag.

A highly entertaining read. Brought tears to my eyes many times.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 09:31 AM (jTmQV)

87 I thought Who Dis was Goethe.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 09:31 AM (smVBh)

88 On a Bronte Binge currently. It is an odd and very emotive world the siblings created, but entertainingly overheated.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 16, 2022 09:31 AM (jsyJZ)

89 Getting close to the end of The Aerodrome where an airport, but not a commercial one, appears on the outskirts of an anonymous small town and gradually imposes its will on the citizens in a non friendly way. The whole work has an air of unreality to it (although maybe less so than it used to be) and was surely influenced by Kafka, although I don't recall anything by him in which the narrator was actively complicit in the bureaucracy (although I'm far from a Kafka completist). At first I found the book off putting but it's become increasingly, enjoyable isn't the right word but something like it as it's made clear how at odds the denizens of the aerodrome in terms of values are to the locals. Much too timely.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 09:32 AM (y7DUB)

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 09:32 AM (u82oZ)

91 Is the barrel closed until OM gets back?

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette at January 16, 2022 09:32 AM (GT4tu)

92 uh oh

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 09:32 AM (KfrSF)

93 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 09:32 AM (u82oZ)

94 I've been working on acquiring more "must have" books in my collection. This past week I added The Chronicles of Prydain by Lloyd Alexander. It was always one of my favorite series when I was a wee lad. Helped introduce me to the larger world of fantasy in general, along with sparking an interest in Celtic mythology.

I also obtained The Chronicles of Narnia (omnibus edition). That's just absolutely necessary for any good library.

Finally, I received Jack Vance's Tales of the Dying Earth. It was the direct inspiration for the magic system used in Dungeons & Dragons.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 09:32 AM (K5n5d)

95 No books read this week and may OM and family have a full recovery.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2022 09:32 AM (4I/2K)

96 But if you can ignore such superficial issues -- and aren't hobbled by contemporary dogma and witch-hunting -- the stories are awesome. Literally: they inspire awe and horror. HPL was an atheist who managed to convey a sense of numinousness better than almost anyone.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:21 AM (QZxDR)
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Lovecraft was about mood. He was a lot like his pal R.E. Howard in that he had a bunch of little tics he liked to use and told variations on the same story but did it very well.

He loved doing the "I'm a rational Man of Science from good family and none of this makes sense." In fact, I think that sums up just about everything he wrote.

But he did it very well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:32 AM (llXky)

97 Ramsey Campbell's early Lovecraftian work is a lot of fun too. And he's recently done a trilogy which is in that vein if memory serves -- haven't gotten to that yet. His stuff outside the Lovecraftian is some of the best horror fiction out there. PS Publishing has done a nice 3-volume selection of his short work, a sampling surpassed only by Campbell's entry in the Centipede Press Masters of the Weird Tale series.

Right now, this kid's revisiting Jonathan Carroll's The Voice of Our Shadow and his collection of short pieces The Crow's Dinner.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 16, 2022 09:33 AM (JzDjf)

98 But if you can ignore such superficial issues -- and aren't hobbled by contemporary dogma and witch-hunting -- the stories are awesome. Literally: they inspire awe and horror. HPL was an atheist who managed to convey a sense of numinousness better than almost anyone.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:21 AM (QZxDR)
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He had a tremendous impact on the fantasy/horror genre at large. I'm always surprised as how much Lovecraftian horror I can find in other stories. The influence is often subtle, but definitely there.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 09:26 AM (K5n5d)


I recently read The Dunwich Horror and Others. I thought that because Lovecraft had been so influential and so copied by later authors, the troupes did seem as fresh. I found the stories to be generally good, but hampered by the then-accepted technique of "telling" rather than "showing" action. One thing that was nice in most of the stories was that the really creepy twist was in the last sentence of the stories.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 16, 2022 09:34 AM (pJWtt)

99 Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:21 AM (QZxDR)

Nice analysis. Thanks.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 16, 2022 09:34 AM (H8QX8)

100 Colombia, Eris. Columbia is the Spirit of America, a muddy river and a very dirty town.

Also my favorite character from Rocky Horror . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 09:34 AM (ZMraq)

101 Italicans!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:34 AM (llXky)

102 @98 oops, that should have read as "troupes did NOT seem as fresh."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 16, 2022 09:34 AM (pJWtt)

103 I've never been a big Lovecraft fan, I thought. But when I was devising the world of my fantasy series, I found I was looking to his Elder Gods setup as a kind of model.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 09:31 AM (c6xtn)
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I think the Elder Gods concept came more from August Derleth, but definitely fit into the greater Cthulhu Mythos in their own way.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 09:35 AM (K5n5d)

104 I think it would be a fun group activity to listen to audiobooks of Lovecraft and Howard and use it as a drinking game.

Words to listen for: thews, cyclopean, etc.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:36 AM (llXky)

105 I stop to make coffee and we're invaded by Italicans!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 09:36 AM (Dc2NZ)

106 Well, that settles it. I will NEVER visit Australia.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 09:36 AM (smVBh)

107 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:27 AM (llXky)

Isn't retconning their history by changing the language a tradition for them?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 09:36 AM (nC+QA)

108 I read Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We Are The Prey by Peter and Ginger Breeggin.
Posted by: Zoltan at January 16, 2022 09:24 AM (EbbAh)

Great tip, thanks.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 16, 2022 09:37 AM (H8QX8)

109 Over the holidays, I also read "A War Like No Other" by Victor D. Hanson.
That was a hefty read. Fascinating to put yourself in the pre-Christian era, 430 BC to 413 BC.
Also very enjoyable.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 09:37 AM (jTmQV)

110 Mea culpa Eris

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 09:37 AM (KfrSF)

111 I have a recommendation that I feel awkward making.

Stormy Omartien's Power of the Praying Wife. It's set up in 31 categories so it makes for a good devotional. Each category has a bunch of Scripture references in the discussion, the prayer, and as "Power Tools" at the end of each category. Also, very (most?) importantly this is explicitly *not* a 'Lord, make him do what I want' book. It starts with the wife asking the Lord to change her heart and goes from there. I don't expect that everyone would agree with everything in it or find it all applicable, but neither does the author. I plan on giving a copy to each of my daughters as they get married and to my daughter-in-law when my Son marries.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 09:27 AM (nC+QA)

Can endorse this book recommendation. Gave my copy to my married daughter and she truly appreciated it. There is tremendous power in prayer.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2022 09:37 AM (4I/2K)

112 Isn't retconning their history by changing the language a tradition for them?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 09:36 AM (nC+QA)

We all do it!

Posted by: The Left at January 16, 2022 09:37 AM (7bRMQ)

113 Finished A Thread of Deceit by Nigel West, debunking various intelligence myths.

On deck is the unabridged, uncut Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. I wonder if it is better than the so-so (for a Heinlein) abridged version I read many moons ago.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 09:37 AM (u82oZ)

114 Lovecraft is still a cult hero in Providence. There is even an H.P. Lovecraft store in the oldest indoor mall in the country in Providence which in itself is a pretty cool place.

They used to do all sorts of events around Halloween like film festivals and the Tentacle Tours but the virus seems to have stopped them at least temporarily.

The url of the store pretty much says it all.

https://www.weirdprovidence.org

Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2022 09:38 AM (ZLI7S)

115 69 Sure glad I bought that new bookcase.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:21 AM (llXky)

Bought?? Why didn't you use me?!
Posted by: Ace's How to Build Shelving Book at January 16, 2022 09:26 AM (7bRMQ)

I will never be short of cases and shelves. Husband may be an academic, but he's a shelving savant.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:38 AM (ONvIw)

116 The Rite: The Making of a Modern Exorcist by Matt Baglio
From Chapter 5 Opening The Door, talks about the different kinds of Satanic Cults that were showing up in Italy ( which has/had its own anti-sect squad):
"Youth Acid" - young people into the physical trappings of Satanism, hedonism, drugs, self-mutilation, pedophilia, suicide, even murder to provide human sacrifices.
"Power Satanism" - very wealthy & influential people who are said to sell their souls to the Devil in exchange for the promise of power and wealth, which are then used to ensure a perpetual state of strife - war, famine, etc.
"Apocalyptic Satanism" - which has as its goal the total destruction of life as we know it
These are from a Father Aldo Buonaiuto, cult expert, authir of The Hands of the Occult

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 09:38 AM (lCui1)

117 Anna Puma, Samurai! has some very interesting parts but my favorite was how he remarked that Japanese pilots were given intricately woven belts by their fiancees to protect them from harm as a farewell present, all very nice.

But American girls were giving the boys a farewell romp, which he thought was a far, far better deal. "I'm going to go off to die and all I get is a belt? Seriously??!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:39 AM (llXky)

118 Lovecraft's influence is twofold.

The first is his radical shift away from ghosts and evil spirits. Remember that vampires used to be corpses animated by evil spirits because they were buried improperly. And witches made pacts with the Devil. All supernatural horror existed in a specifically Christian framework.

And that meant that it was _ethical_. There was a moral, spiritual lesson embedded in horror stories. The reader could take comfort in the idea that "I live a virtuous life. That wouldn't happen to me." HPL yanked away that comfort. His evils aren't supernatural and have no moral component: witches are using hypergeometry and making deals with alien beings; his Great Old Ones don't want your soul -- they might fancy you as protein but that's all -- they just want to take over the world and sweep away everything you know and all memories of you and your species. Nobody cares about you, not even the Devil.

That's pretty potent in the post-WWI era (and today).

Note that it's useful for even Christian writers: they can borrow HPL's aliens masquerading as evil spirits, because those can't be chased off by a crucifix or holy water.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:39 AM (QZxDR)

119 Cormac McCarthy.....ducks!

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 09:40 AM (HG3Fb)

120 I recently read The Dunwich Horror and Others. I thought that because Lovecraft had been so influential and so copied by later authors, the troupes did seem as fresh. I found the stories to be generally good, but hampered by the then-accepted technique of "telling" rather than "showing" action. One thing that was nice in most of the stories was that the really creepy twist was in the last sentence of the stories.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 16, 2022


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As a kid ca. 1964, I bought an issue, which I still have, of the short-run semi-pulp magazine The Magazine of Horror, edited by Robert A.W. Lowndes. It has the novelette "The Shuttered Room," which was my first exposure (age 11) to Lovecraft. At that age, I was used to overwrought Victorian/Georgian prose in my horror, so I didn't think that was odd. Even then, I had trouble with his heavy use of written dialect, e.g., "Yew jest got to dew whut you got to dew." I guess in the '20s and '30s, that sort of thing was not yet frowned on. But it makes some of his dialog hard to read.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 09:40 AM (c6xtn)

121 I have a recommendation that I feel awkward making.

Stormy Omartien's Power of the Praying Wife. It's set up in 31 categories so it makes for a good devotional.

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Is there a chapter on sammiches?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 09:40 AM (lCui1)

122 Eris, I think you're a natural at the Book Thread. These are very good.

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2022 09:40 AM (lDew/)

123 I think it would be a fun group activity to listen to audiobooks of Lovecraft and Howard and use it as a drinking game.

Words to listen for: thews, cyclopean, etc.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:36 AM (llXky)
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I dunno. You'd be pretty hammered by the end of the first page, if not the first paragraph...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 09:41 AM (K5n5d)

124 105 I stop to make coffee and we're invaded by Italicans!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 09:36 AM (Dc2NZ)
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They always attack when you least expect it. Just like the otters.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:41 AM (llXky)

125 Ho Lee fuq

Nissan is offering a lease on the Frontier pickups for 18 months with a 99% residual. Which means Nissan is betting that in late 2023, a 2 year old used Frontier will be worth what it is worth new today.

But remember inflation is totes transitory and stuff.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 16, 2022 09:41 AM (OIHxA)

126 Australia is officially the laughing stock of the world.||
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 09:24 AM (UHVv4)


It would be nice if the rest of the players would boycott the dogshit tournament because of his treatment but nobody should hold their breath. Remember when sports was supposed to build character? Enjoy the China Olympics as you pretend the plight of the Uighurs isn't really happening.

The Serbs have consistently been shit on by the rest of the world but the enemedia can't be interrupted from sucking mooooslum cock. Except for the Uighurs.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 09:41 AM (y7DUB)

127 104 I think it would be a fun group activity to listen to audiobooks of Lovecraft and Howard and use it as a drinking game.

Words to listen for: thews, cyclopean, etc.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:36 AM (llXky)
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The Ten Words Lovecraft Used Most Often:

https://tinyurl.com/y38r79et

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 09:41 AM (Dc2NZ)

128 I will never be short of cases and shelves. Husband may be an academic, but he's a shelving savant.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:38 AM (ONvIw)


My father was a shelving idiot savant ... but I am a lowly shelving idiot.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 09:41 AM (VXxTB)

129 I finished Rules for Reformers by Doug Wilson. Like many books, there were no earth-shattering revelations, just good reminders of how Christians should engage in our cultural battles. Next up, I think I'll tackle the lengthy tome on the history of the French Foreign Legion I received for Christmas.
To clarify,I received a book, not the Legion. It would be cool to have a Legion, but I've no idea where I'd keep it...

Posted by: PabloD at January 16, 2022 09:41 AM (+0Dog)

130 I finished Lois McMaster Bujold's Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen, and I have to admit Bujold is an incredibly good writer. She won't win another Hugo with this one, but it did make me sad when it was done.

Three years after Count Aral Vorkosigan (Admiral, ex-prime minister, and Viceroy of Chaos Colony on the planet Segyar) died leaving his wife Cordelia, his Vicereign, to manage the Colony with Admiral Oliver Jole, Cordelia has decided to resign and raising daughters using her and Aral's stored genetic material, and offers nonviable eggs and Arals material to Admiral Jole as well.

The three had known and worked with each other for decades, and as it is revealed, were in a three-way relationship around Aral, which was taboo for Barryar, but unremarkable for Cordelia, as she was from Socially liberal Beta Colony.

Together they work to secure Chaos colony as an economic and military center in the Barryaran Empire, and deal with what they mean to each other in the after Aral's death, and cope with busybodies, drunken soldiers, shady contractors, the local wildlife, land speculators and Cordelia's son, Miles, who just can't use the mails.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 09:41 AM (ZMraq)

131 ((The above from "The Superior Person's Book of Words" by Peter Bowler, an essential volume in every Horde library))

******

Well, except for the bothersome little fact that a large and obscure vocabulary in and of itself does not make a person superior. Words, used properly, are for communication, and the user should strive to be accessible to a broad range of individuals, not a snobbish group of self-proclaimed elites.

tl:dr version: f*ck that snobby noise!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 09:42 AM (m45I2)

132 63 Rape of Nanking is another read that shows man's inhumanity to man
Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 09:24 AM (2JoB

I bought it not only to read it, but to shove into the hands of a "friend" who regularly goes off on the idea that the animus toward Japan was raycist, that we were horrible for using the a bombs on those noble people. She's part of one of the local " the US is the problem" groups and coordinates lectures by others. History is not her field, and she only sees what supports her bullshit. The book can easily fit in my bag to be ready.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:42 AM (ONvIw)

133 "Perfessor" Squirrel

Speaking of Celtic, have you read The King of Elfland's Daughter by Lord Dunsany?

To read that is to be transported into high fantasy.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (u82oZ)

134 Enjoy the China Olympics as you pretend the plight of the Uighurs isn't really happening.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 09:41 AM (y7DUB)

Go for the love of China's communists, come back with another type of covid....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (7bRMQ)

135 Thanks, T-Bird, but I am no OregonMuse. He always brings more substance.

Prayers up for Muse and family!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (Dc2NZ)

136 I've never seen any author do a good job of phonetically representing dialect. Not Mark Twain, not Dickens, not Hardy, not anyone.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (QZxDR)

137 The pic is James Madison, George Mason, or Samuel Johnson. Obviously I have no clue.

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (HG3Fb)

138 Hawaii requires a vax to go as well. Which is cool Hawaii. Plenty of other places with beaches that will happily accept my tourist dollars.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (OIHxA)

139 My father was a shelving idiot savant ... but I am a lowly shelving idiot.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 09:41 AM (VXxTB)

When on a sabbatical he created a very lovely series of built in cases. We are set for life.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:44 AM (ONvIw)

140 I think the Elder Gods concept came more from August Derleth, but definitely fit into the greater Cthulhu Mythos in their own way.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022


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Maybe so. Well, ancient Entities, anyway.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 09:44 AM (c6xtn)

141 I tried to read "The Rape of Nanking" but it was so depressing I had to put it aside about halfway in.
Maybe I'll finish it later.
It is unrelenting in its barbarity.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 09:44 AM (jTmQV)

142 Peter Bowler is being pedantic.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 09:44 AM (smVBh)

143 Speaking of Celtic, have you read The King of Elfland's Daughter by Lord Dunsany?

To read that is to be transported into high fantasy.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (u82oZ)
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I have not, though I have heard of it. I should put that on my "essentials" list, I think...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 09:45 AM (K5n5d)

144 Well, except for the bothersome little fact that a large and obscure vocabulary in and of itself does not make a person superior. Words, used properly, are for communication, and the user should strive to be accessible to a broad range of individuals, not a snobbish group of self-proclaimed elites.

tl:dr version: f*ck that snobby noise!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 09:42 AM (m45I2)

Oh, was I doing it wrong?

Posted by: WFB at January 16, 2022 09:45 AM (7bRMQ)

145 Also, thank you, Eris, for stepping up.
You are doing a great job.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 09:45 AM (jTmQV)

146 These are from a Father Aldo Buonaiuto, cult expert, authir of The Hands of the Occult

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 09:38 AM (lCui1)
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My replacement copy of Lorenzo Scupoli's The Spiritual Combat finally arrived (I gave my original way).

I'm re-reading it and doing it just as I did the first time: no more than one chapter per day to ensure proper meditation.

He gives four weapons for spiritual combat: distrust of the self, confidence in God, proper uses of the sense and body, and prayer.

Very helpful in these times.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:45 AM (llXky)

147 I remember reading about the Magical Belt of Saves that his cousin sent him in Samurai! but do not recall him comparing it to the Americans.

In Air War Jablonski references 'The Devil' being shot down in the Philippines in a Showa L2D Tabby.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 09:46 AM (KfrSF)

148 Continuing with the 100 Days of Dante and it keeps getting more interesting. But there are side roads appearing where I didn't expect them.

First: Now I've developed an interest in learning about Virgil's "Aeneid" and his other writings. I had no idea The Aeneid was so influential; important, like Homer, but not so influential. This is made more complicated by learning that it was one of the most important long poems for CS Lewis. Now begins the search for good translations (and what makes a good translation).

Lewis had done some translation of the Aeneid but never finished it. The extant parts were published in "C. S. Lewis's Lost Aeneid: Arms and the Exile". It was on the shelf but forgot I had it. Just started but it is turning into a fascinating read.

to be continued ...

Posted by: JTB at January 16, 2022 09:46 AM (7EjX1)

149 My father was a shelving idiot savant ... but I am a lowly shelving idiot.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know


*******

It sounds like somebody needs to work on their shelf esteem.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 09:46 AM (m45I2)

150 When on a sabbatical he created a very lovely series of built in cases. We are set for life.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:44 AM (ONvIw)

My father's shelves were not beautiful but they didn't sag in the middle. I decided to make some shelves to take to grad school that would double as shipping containers (in the trunk of my car). Of course I got them half-made and he had to finish them and they weighed several tons ... empty.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 09:46 AM (VXxTB)

151 The pic is James Madison, George Mason, or Samuel Johnson. Obviously I have no clue.
Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (HG3Fb)
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We know all of them were widely read.

Anyone think our current crop of politicians read anything other than the latest poll telling them how wonderful they are?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 09:46 AM (5pTK/)

152 Well, except for the bothersome little fact that a large and obscure vocabulary in and of itself does not make a person superior. Words, used properly, are for communication, and the user should strive to be accessible to a broad range of individuals, not a snobbish group of self-proclaimed elites.

tl:dr version: f*ck that snobby noise!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 09:42 AM (m45I2)
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Yes! Go suck it, Scott Fitzgerald!

Posted by: Ernest Hemingway at January 16, 2022 09:46 AM (llXky)

153 Good morning.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 09:47 AM (5pTK/)

154 Speaking of Celtic, have you read The King of Elfland's Daughter by Lord Dunsany?

To read that is to be transported into high fantasy.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (u82oZ)
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I have not, though I have heard of it. I should put that on my "essentials" list, I think...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 09:45 AM (K5n5d)
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*sigh* just ordered it from Amazon...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 09:47 AM (K5n5d)

155 Hey Captain and salty, it has been a long time.

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 09:47 AM (HG3Fb)

156 141 I tried to read "The Rape of Nanking" but it was so depressing I had to put it aside about halfway in.
Maybe I'll finish it later.
It is unrelenting in its barbarity.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 09:44 AM (jTmQV)

And it's just what this woman needs to read. She's a typical lib who slathers blame all over the West, and ignores the universality of cruelty. She's also quite able to ignore non-Western slavery, and lets France off the hook, because Paris.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:47 AM (ONvIw)

157 145 Also, thank you, Eris, for stepping up.
You are doing a great job.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Hear hear!
Thank you, Eris!

btw, gourmand, how's the back pain thing?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 09:48 AM (lCui1)

158 Eris, I see a future as a regular guest book thread COB.

Excellent job!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 09:48 AM (5pTK/)

159 On deck is the unabridged, uncut Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. I wonder if it is better than the so-so (for a Heinlein) abridged version I read many moons ago.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 09:37 AM (u82oZ)


I hope so; the abridged version wrecked any further interest in anything by Heinlen, which is surely unfair but waste my time and see what happens.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 09:48 AM (y7DUB)

160 Reading this past week: fund-raising letters at work, JSA (comic) bingeing at home. The library trade collections end with the issue just before the first issue I bought. When I'm done with this last trade, I'll have read all of the Geoff Johns stories. I may continue to reread those issues.

The library provided the second of the Mrs. Coverlet books. The first is on its way. A big thank you to the Moron who mentioned these. I'm traipsing through my childhood. (Maybe I never left it.)

Thank you, Eris, for picking up the book thread duty. And continued prayers for the OM duo.

And, oddly enough, I'm wearing pants!

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 16, 2022 09:48 AM (Om/di)

161 I remember reading about the Magical Belt of Saves that his cousin sent him in Samurai! but do not recall him comparing it to the Americans.

In Air War Jablonski references 'The Devil' being shot down in the Philippines in a Showa L2D Tabby.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 09:46 AM (KfrSF)
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It was an passing reference, I made it a little more explicit.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:49 AM (llXky)

162 The King of Elfland's Daughter by Lord Dunsany

Beware before ya read this laddie, the English used in the writing is just a wee bit antique.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 09:49 AM (KfrSF)

163 152 and the user should strive to be accessible to a broad range of individuals, not a snobbish group of self-proclaimed elites.


No. An author should write for his audience. If the audience is snobbish elites then do that. But don't hold your breath waiting for the royalty checks.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 09:49 AM (VXxTB)

164 There's a Murdoch Mysteries episode featuring a young Lovecraft summering in Canada...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6413626/

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 09:49 AM (UHVv4)

165 IS PARIS BURNING? IS PARIS BURNING?

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 09:49 AM (smVBh)

166 Anyone think our current crop of politicians read anything other than the latest poll telling them how wonderful they are?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 09:46 AM (5pTK/)

Read?!

Posted by: Joe Danby at January 16, 2022 09:49 AM (7bRMQ)

167 Columbia is the Spirit of America, a muddy river and a very dirty town.

'Columbia, the Gem of the Ocean' - does anybody sing that anymore?

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette at January 16, 2022 09:49 AM (GT4tu)

168 Many Thanxs Eris!
Awesome thread.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 09:50 AM (axyOa)

169 Muldoon, the superior person uses words for obfuscation. Some dissembly required.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 09:50 AM (Dc2NZ)

170 I've never seen any author do a good job of phonetically representing dialect. Not Mark Twain, not Dickens, not Hardy, not anyone.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022


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John Kennedy Toole did pretty well. When I first read Dunces, I saw he had his Noo Awlins characters say "chirren" for "children." I've heard that all my life here -- but no author ever wrote it as anything but "chillun," which I've never heard here in actuality.

The modern way, and the way I try to do it, is to give an example of how Dialect Character sounds as noted by your viewpoint character, and then leave it to your reader to fill in the rest. You make sure to use dialect *constructions* without doing the phonetics -- "Goin' to make groceries [NO dialect for "grocery shopping"]. You want I should bring you somethin'?" (I've seen that last word rendered as "somepin'" and even "sum-um," which does reproduce it, but is not clear to the reader.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (c6xtn)

171 Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 09:49 AM (UHVv4)
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The Murdoch Mysteries were a lot of fun before they went woke.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (5pTK/)

172 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Her notion is that if you understand how a movie is bad, you know more about how to make them good than if you just watch good ones.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:09 AM (QZxDR)


Thanks for that recommendation - I'm going to check that out, since I like Plan 9 legitimately, and not as something to laugh at. I wish someone would write a book about the making of Manos: The Hands of Fate, which is another movie I actually like, and feel sorry for Hal Warren, who thought he was really making a good movie.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (2JVJo)

173 And it's just what this woman needs to read. She's a typical lib who slathers blame all over the West, and ignores the universality of cruelty. She's also quite able to ignore non-Western slavery, and lets France off the hook, because Paris.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:47 AM (ONvIw)

Then she will not read it. She will tell you it's propaganda from the far-right and return it to you. Also, she'll give you the "yabbuts."

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (7bRMQ)

174 Speaking of Celtic, have you read The King of Elfland's Daughter by Lord Dunsany?

To read that is to be transported into high fantasy.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (u82oZ)

I was just thinking about Lord Dunsany. I read something by him years ago and quite enjoyed it.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (eGTCV)

175 Who's Dis: "PC Load Letter"? What the heck does that mean?

Either that or badly translated instructions for installing shelving.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2022 09:52 AM (4I/2K)

176 My back is slowly improving. Doc says it is either a sprain or a pinched nerve. It had me flat on my back for a couple of days. Now, I have some mobility restored and can do all my regular chores, but still in considerable pain. This is a challenge as I've always had good agility and my weight is good.
I am thinking of seeing a chiropractor for the first time in my life. Desperate? Maybe.
Thanks for asking.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (jTmQV)

177 Then she will not read it. She will tell you it's propaganda from the far-right and return it to you. Also, she'll give you the "yabbuts."
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (7bRMQ)
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Yep. Facts contrary to the lib world view are hand waved away. Intentions are all, actual results are to be ignored.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (5pTK/)

178 Kindltot

The book Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen turned me off Bujold. And she is my top of four authors that I had multiple copies of her stories on my bookshelves. She wrote well, but her recent stuff is meh. Although I really liked Captain Vorpatril's Alliance.

She has an inner Leftist that her excellent writing masked. Here she lets it out, and especially destroys the Aral and Cordelia relationship from the previous saga. We know Cordelia is very awesome, but so awesome sd to turn the heads of two bisexual men that are at the top of their own powers?

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (u82oZ)

179 Hey Quint; nice to read you.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (y7DUB)

180 It is, of course, Mr. Johnson in this week's "Who Dis".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (Dc2NZ)

181 Reading Coldiron's monograph, it's extremely obvious that one central flaw with Plan 9 was that it was a farrago of disconnected shots and stock footage, which Ed Wood then tried to stitch together with some soundstage scenes and the sheer brilliance of his writing.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (QZxDR)

182 The Rape of Nanking by Iris Chang?

Focus on it being written by a Chinese woman. Also mention Chang killed herself because writing the book traumatized her so.

That should make it fascinating from the check marks and the horror factor.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (KfrSF)

183 When on a sabbatical he created a very lovely series of built in cases. We are set for life.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:44 AM (ONvIw)


I had a professional carpenter come in to Stately Poppins Manor and build floor-to-ceiling bookcases in the parlor and dining room. I have so many books that he had to build a retaining wall in the cellar to keep the floors from collapsing!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 09:54 AM (2JVJo)

184 Then she will not read it. She will tell you it's propaganda from the far-right and return it to you. Also, she'll give you the "yabbuts."
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (7bRMQ)

In the proper social setting, she can be pushed and later taunted if she does not read it. I've known her for 40 years, and can corner her if need be.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:55 AM (ONvIw)

185 Then she will not read it. She will tell you it's propaganda from the far-right and return it to you. Also, she'll give you the "yabbuts."

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (7bRMQ)
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In that event, hold the book out for a moment longer before slowly withdrawing it while saying, "I'm sorry to hear that. I'd think you would care about the suffering of other cultures, but I guess you're someone who only cares about white problems."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:55 AM (llXky)

186 In one of my Alfred Hitchcock anthologies, there is a Lord Dunsany short story which has in its first paragraph a reference to "a north wind chanting of winter." The odd thing is that in the introduction, AH's editor misspelled it as "chaunting of winter," and y'know, I like that better. I don't think it's in the dictionary -- but I like it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 09:55 AM (c6xtn)

187 Who dis:

I vaguely recalled him, a simple 'Copy Link Location' then gave it away.

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2022 09:55 AM (W66RU)

188 I was just thinking about Lord Dunsany. I read something by him years ago and quite enjoyed it.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (eGTCV)
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He was a major influence on both Lovecraft and Tolkien, as well as many other writers even today (e.g. Neil Gaiman).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 09:56 AM (K5n5d)

189 In the proper social setting, she can be pushed and later taunted if she does not read it. I've known her for 40 years, and can corner her if need be.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:55 AM (ONvIw)
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Ah, yes. You've got this.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:56 AM (llXky)

190 Two minutes and 18 seconds of hate (rumble). A right-wing propaganda HOW TO ... and hilarious ... at least the grrl behind the speaker lost it.

https://tinyurl.com/yrzzjh3r

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 09:56 AM (VXxTB)

191 continued from 148 ..

The second unexpected side road was learning that CS Lewis regarded "The Worm Ouroborus" by E. R. Eddison as one of the few books he continually re-read. I knew it was considered a sort of pre-LOTR and pre-Narnia influence but didn't realize how highly Lewis and Tolkien thought of it. (This all came up in "C. S. Lewis's Lost Aeneid: Arms and the Exile" intro material.)

I read it over 50 years ago but, frankly, didn't remember much. Might be time to revisit the book. My old Ballantine paperback is long gone and finding a suitable replacement that gets good reviews is a problem. The ebook versions have a LOT of complaints for shoddy formatting and typos. May have to order a paperback edition.

Posted by: JTB at January 16, 2022 09:57 AM (7EjX1)

192
183:
For this reason, our library is located in the finished basement. The basement was finished to look like our first floor, complete with a tiled hallway. We don't have to worry about floors there.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:57 AM (ONvIw)

193 I am thinking of seeing a chiropractor for the first time in my life. Desperate? Maybe.
Thanks for asking.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022


***
My ex-father-in-law was an unreconstructed realist, but he swore by his chiropractor helping him with aches and pains from years of motorcycling and horseback riding. When I got a pinched nerve in my shoulder in my 40s, I tried a chiropractor and it really did help.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 09:58 AM (c6xtn)

194 Yep. Facts contrary to the lib world view are hand waved away. Intentions are all, actual results are to be ignored.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (5pTK/)
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As a lifelong resident of a liberal college town, I'll note that boxing in liberals is extremely easy once you understand them. They key is always, always be MORE liberal. Never argue from a conservative point of view because that is entirely invalid.

By shifting to the far left, you can also play upon their sense of guilt and express your profound disappointment that they aren't measuring up to their own lofty goals - which you, being a good person like them - also share.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:59 AM (llXky)

195 In the proper social setting, she can be pushed and later taunted if she does not read it. I've known her for 40 years, and can corner her if need be.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 09:55 AM (ONvIw)

Ah, yes. You've got this.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:56 AM (llXky)

Also prepare for her "yabbut" response if she actually reads the whole book.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 10:00 AM (7bRMQ)

196 What is this Ace's Grotto? Is it anything like the (former) Playboy Mansion Grotto, because there are a lotta stories told about that place.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 16, 2022 10:00 AM (a3Q+t)

197 A.H. Lloyd, okay.

The L2D Tabby:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showa/Nakajima_L2D

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:00 AM (KfrSF)

198 196 What is this Ace's Grotto? Is it anything like the (former) Playboy Mansion Grotto, because there are a lotta stories told about that place.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 16, 2022 10:00 AM (a3Q+t)


Very similar but shelves instead of "bunnies".

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 10:01 AM (VXxTB)

199 20 The Johnson sketch on Blackadder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSYiT2iG08
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 16, 2022 09:07 AM (PiwSw)
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I've always loved this sketch. Is that Robbie as Johnson?

"I believe Mr. Johnson is saying he's finished his book after ten years."
"Yes, well, I'm a slow reader myself!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

200 History is not her field, and she only sees what supports her bullshit.
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Get her something about the Railway of Death as well especially as it killed plenty of brown British Indian POWs too as well as locals. There might even be some Indian historians' works on it too.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 10:01 AM (UHVv4)

201 Gourmand: my father's chiropractor was able to help him with pain caused by a life of (literally) back-breaking labor. Like all professions, the field is replete with good and bad practitioners.

Posted by: PabloD at January 16, 2022 10:01 AM (+0Dog)

202 I would gladly see a chiro. as long as my situation didn't get worse.
Chronic pain is a curse, I've never experienced anything other than normal stuff, broken bones, root canal, etc.
This thing is in a category all its own.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 10:02 AM (jTmQV)

203 I am thinking of seeing a chiropractor for the first time in my life. Desperate? Maybe.
Thanks for asking.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (jTmQV)
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I was very skeptical but my wife got me to go (she has a very bad back) and while I don't buy into the whole "spinal alignment is all", there are times when you need a good push to get things back where they should be.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:02 AM (llXky)

204 187 I don't know what that means. What it Johnson? I chose him last but that was my real pick. I have a weird way of stating things, my last point is usually the most sincere. Anyone who follows my dribble knows this.

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 10:02 AM (HG3Fb)

205 I'm about halfway through The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and would categorize it as more of a YA novel than a work of great literature. After I started it I found out that Huckleberry Finn was held in much higher regard; which doesn't imply I don't find Tom interesting; just kind of trite. Or maybe Twain isn't for me.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 10:03 AM (y7DUB)

206 Also prepare for her "yabbut" response if she actually reads the whole book.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 10:00 AM (7bRMQ)

Of course, but reading the book will undercut her depictions of the Japanese military. If it makes her STFU about WWII, I'll be content.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:03 AM (ONvIw)

207 One Dunsany book I do remember reading is Curse of the Wise Woman.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at January 16, 2022 10:03 AM (eGTCV)

208 Or maybe Twain isn't for me.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 10:03 AM (y7DUB)

So, we'll never meet?

Posted by: Twain at January 16, 2022 10:04 AM (7bRMQ)

209 It was fun to see Blackadder on Dr House's DVR play list in one episode.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 10:04 AM (UHVv4)

210 Also prepare for her "yabbut" response if she actually reads the whole book.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 10:00 AM (7bRMQ)
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Maybe, but liberals forced to face reality often just won't talk about it, period. It becomes off-limits. Total change of conversation.

She likely won't finish the book and won't want to talk about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:05 AM (llXky)

211 Is there a chapter on sammiches?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 09:40 AM (lCui1)

There are several places where the wife prays God will help her do her part in making the house a home as well as to be appealing to her husband (and what is more appealing than sammiches?). It treats the couple as a team, but also as individuals who have the right to make choices. It isn't spiritual witchcraft or manipulation and it isn't about "fixing" the husband although the prayers are that he will know and walk with the Lord.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 10:05 AM (nC+QA)

212 Good morning everyone. I have donned my pants.

I've dug out of the stacks my copy of The New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechism for my granddaughters. It's the 1969 edition. Yes, a book for children but still, some new marvelous discoveries every day that I either glossed over *cough, cough* years ago or have forgotten. e.g. Purgatory is 'God's Hospital'. The kids so need this and, truth be told, so do I.

Written and illustrated so simply an adult can understand it.

Thanks Eris!!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 16, 2022 10:05 AM (mD/uy)

213 Posted by: JTB at January 16, 2022 09:57 AM (7EjX1)

I have the Ballantine versions of Ouroborus, A Fish Dinner in Memison, and Mistress of Mistresses.

I started reading "Worm" years ago and it didn't grab me. Perhaps I'll begin again, as part of my "read what you own" resolution.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:05 AM (Dc2NZ)

214 Of course, but reading the book will undercut her depictions of the Japanese military. If it makes her STFU about WWII, I'll be content.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:03 AM (ONvIw)

Hopefully.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 10:06 AM (7bRMQ)

215 She likely won't finish the book and won't want to talk about it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:05 AM (llXky

These terms are acceptable.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:06 AM (ONvIw)

216 I have no patience with anti-Atomic Bomb jagoffs. Ask her, should we have invaded the islands? Projected a million US casualties and ten times that many Japanese. How many corpses does she want to satisfy her idea of a sportsmanlike war?

Or blockade? Starve millions of the poorest Japanese while the men who caused the war stay safe? Oh, and the Japanese army in China will be supplying itself by taking food from the Chinese. Again, how many corpses will satisfy her.

I see no reason to be polite. One reason the Left has gone so fucking insane is that nobody has ever confronted them. Make it an unpleasant experience for her to express her poisonous idiocy.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 10:07 AM (QZxDR)

217 Of course, but reading the book will undercut her depictions of the Japanese military. If it makes her STFU about WWII, I'll be content.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:03 AM (ONvIw)
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True, you will henceforth and forever be able to drop a passing reference to throw off her game.

"Oh, wow, that is bad, but it's not really Nanking territory, is it?"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:07 AM (llXky)

218 N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods

Lord Dunsany wrote in a lot of different genres. Plays, short stories, poems, etc.

The short stories about Joseph Jorkens are highly improbable "club tales" told at a gentleman's club or bar. Some are excellent!

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 10:08 AM (u82oZ)

219 We have a grand-nephew who turns three in a couple of weeks. One of his gifts is a hardcover edition of Tolkien's "Letters From Father Christmas". This is actually a gift for the whole family since I believe adults will enjoy it more than the kids.

Turns out our nephew and his wife are Tolkien fans as well as Louis L'Amour fans. (I knew I liked them.) I'm passing along my old copies of L'Amour every now and then which helps a young couple's budget and makes a bit of space on my bookshelves.

Posted by: JTB at January 16, 2022 10:08 AM (7EjX1)

220 I started reading "Worm" years ago and it didn't grab me. Perhaps I'll begin again, as part of my "read what you own" resolution.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:05 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Hah! Funny thing, exactly reason I started reading "Anna Karenina" and "The King of Vodka."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 10:08 AM (5pTK/)

221 ""We did not imagine that this would be our conclusion - that the global predators, many of them Americans, have no allegiance other than their belief that the future is with Communist China." Posted by: Zoltan

Thanks, just picked it up for $2.99 on Kindle (at Amazon ... we need new non-predator control of Amazon. Maybe a class action by shareholders against the predators that use the power against the owners ... as goes with our country.)

Posted by: illiniwek at January 16, 2022 10:08 AM (Cus5s)

222 A while back, I recommended John Michell's Eccentric Lives, Peculiar Notions to Eris. Michell was - well, I don't know what you'd call him. He called himself a 'radical traditionalist,' but I suppose he'd be classified under 'New Age' and 'alternative geography' categories (some of his other books are The Earth Spirit: Its Ways, Shrines and Mysteries and The View Over Atlantis.

In any events, Lives was a wonderfully entertaining book about odd, deluded and sometimes crazed people and their various beliefs. So I am now reading The John Michell Reader, which is a collection of short articles he wrote for the English magazine The Oldie, and it touches on a vast array of spiritual, political and personal topics. It's a book to dip in here and there, and, IMO, well worth your time.

https://tinyurl.com/2p98kfbm

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 10:09 AM (2JVJo)

223 205 I loved the old Tom Sawyer movie. But for sure Huck Finn is considered to be a much greater work. I need to read more Twain. I did read Grant's memoirs. They were so good many falsely claimed Twain wrote them.

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 10:09 AM (HG3Fb)

224 She likely won't finish the book and won't want to talk about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:05 AM (llXky)

Best option. Otherwise it'll be "yeah, this brigade was bad, but the others were just plain old soldiers following commands. And besides, we killed all the Indians with smallpox blankets!!!!11

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 10:09 AM (7bRMQ)

225 I am thinking of seeing a chiropractor for the first time in my life. Desperate? Maybe.
Thanks for asking.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (jTmQV)


My sympathy. My latest manifestation of being broken by heart surgery is brutal pain in my lower back and hips. I'm going to a PT about it but things aren't getting back to normal as quickly as they used to plus I'm oddly unmotivated to do the exercises.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 10:10 AM (y7DUB)

226 the superior person uses words for obfuscation. Some dissembly required.
Posted by: All Hail Eris


*******

I guess I'm not understanding your definition of the word 'superior'. Or did you leave off the scare quotes.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 10:10 AM (m45I2)

227 If she is bleating about the atomic weapons, good gosh.

Yeah club her over head with the emotions of, "so you would be fine with One Million Americans being killed, crippled, or wounded?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:10 AM (KfrSF)

228 89 Getting close to the end of The Aerodrome where an airport, but not a commercial one, appears on the outskirts of an anonymous small town and gradually imposes its will on the citizens in a non friendly way.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 09:32 AM (y7DUB)
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Time once again for this ONN bit: "Prague's Kafka International Named 'Most Alienating Airport'":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEyFH-a-XoQ

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:13 AM (Dc2NZ)

229 Yeah club her over head with the emotions of, "so you would be fine with One Million Americans being killed, crippled, or wounded?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:10 AM (KfrSF)

If they were white men, YESSSSSSS!!!!!

Posted by: Leftist at January 16, 2022 10:13 AM (7bRMQ)

230 Watching the weather here in Central NC. The weather is sleet now and the more sleet we get is less freezing rain. I will take sleet over that.

Posted by: Picric at January 16, 2022 10:13 AM (Nzpac)

231 Who is going to write Veep Thoughts, the Wit and Wisdom of Kamala Harris?
It would be humor of course.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at January 16, 2022 10:13 AM (eGTCV)

232 I knew a guy who moved to Egypt to become a caairopractor.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 10:13 AM (m45I2)

233 Trust. 9 minutes of Neil Oliver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpty0rhU9q4

Got to get back to work ...

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 10:13 AM (VXxTB)

234 Yeah club her over head with the emotions of, "so you would be fine with One Million Americans being killed, crippled, or wounded?"
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:10 AM (KfrSF)
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Also club her over the head the army was so short of manpower by the time the invasion of Japan would have happened, they were going to bring in men who had been adjudged less than 50% combat capable. (I believe the author of "Thank God for the Atomic Bomb" said he was considered 40% combat capable. Though, I'm going from memory and am very likely wrong)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 10:13 AM (5pTK/)

235 yeah, NaCly, I liked Captain Vorpatril's Alliance, too, and thought that Gentleman Jole was a bit much ... I wondered if she felt the need to bend the knee just a bit, pro forma.
hard for me to believe that someone who can write such reality-bound characters as the Vorkosigans, et al. could really harbor leftwing viewpoints ... but who knows, these days. glad she keeps it under her hat, anyway; too many authors have forced themselves permanently off my reading lists.

also re Bujold, have you read any of the Penric & Desdemona novellas she's been producing ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 16, 2022 10:14 AM (9CuDT)

236 True, you will henceforth and forever be able to drop a passing reference to throw off her game.

"Oh, wow, that is bad, but it's not really Nanking territory, is it?"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:07 AM (llXky)

And that is the plan.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:14 AM (ONvIw)

237 The Who Dis pic:
"They think what?! in the 21st century????

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 10:14 AM (7bRMQ)

238 I knew a guy who moved to Egypt to become a caairopractor.

*falls out of chair*

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:14 AM (KfrSF)

239 I could nip out to the Dollar Tree for a few things. But they are things I don't *need* right now. Easier and more fun to sit here, dial up some classical music from YooToob, chat with all of you, and get back to my P.D. James story.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 10:14 AM (c6xtn)

240 231 Who is going to write Veep Thoughts, the Wit and Wisdom of Kamala Harris?
It would be humor of course.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at January 16, 2022 10:13 AM (eGTCV)

Already out in pallets at Staples. Oh, those are reams of blank paper, my bad.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 16, 2022 10:14 AM (PiwSw)

241 You could also tell her that projected casualties were so great, that the Allies were encouraging the Soviets to join them because we figured we'd have needed the cannon-fodder. Maybe she'd be worried about Soviet casualties instead??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 10:15 AM (UHVv4)

242 Who is going to write Veep Thoughts, the Wit and Wisdom of Kamala Harris?
It would be humor of course.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at January 16, 2022 10:13 AM (eGTCV)


Gaylord. Or Bill Ayers.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 10:15 AM (y7DUB)

243 >>I would gladly see a chiro. as long as my situation didn't get worse.
Chronic pain is a curse, I've never experienced anything other than normal stuff, broken bones, root canal, etc.
This thing is in a category all its own.

I started going to a chiropractor in high school for structural issues in my back. The guy kept me pretty much upright and active until I finally had to submit to the knife a few years ago. This guy was also had a few clients on the the Celtics and Red Sox so not really that fringe.

Chiropractors aren't really the witch doctors they are made out to be. Sometimes things don't line up the way they are supposed to and they put them back in alignment.

The key is to find a good one. Like any mechanic some are good and some not so much.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2022 10:15 AM (ZLI7S)

244 238 I knew a guy who moved to Egypt to become a caairopractor.

*falls out of chair*
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:14 AM (KfrSF)


What you need is a Gyropractor!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 16, 2022 10:15 AM (PiwSw)

245 Just put in an order for "The Book Woman of Troublesome Creek". It sounds like a great read. Thanks for posting about it and the link to the article.

Posted by: JTB at January 16, 2022 10:15 AM (7EjX1)

246 "If you only made certain to properly follow proper protocols, no such problems would exist. Properly follow proper protocols!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:16 AM (Dc2NZ)

247 I knew a guy who moved to Egypt to become a caairopractor.


I heard his buddy majored in cryptography.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 10:18 AM (axyOa)

248 Great Book Thread, Eris !
Thank you !

(though I am not sure if those are actually "pants" as such in the picture).

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 16, 2022 10:18 AM (9CuDT)

249 ". . . Properly follow proper protocols!"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022


***
The word "protocol" always makes me think of the mouthwash we used when I was a boy, Cepacol (Seep-a-call). Is that stuff still around?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 10:18 AM (c6xtn)

250 I would love for ONN "news" to be aired at airports instead of CNN.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:19 AM (Dc2NZ)

251 I haate it when my twitchy left pinky finger double taaps the 'a' key and ruins aa perfectly good joke.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 10:19 AM (m45I2)

252 Other books on Japanese atrocities:
Return from the River Kwai and Prisoners of the Japanese.

For really obscure there is War in the Indies: The Dutch in Wartime, Survivors Remember Anne Van Aragon Hutten, editor. It will show how nasty the Dutch were to the Javanese but also show the Japanese use of Dutch civilian women as 'comfort women.'

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:19 AM (KfrSF)

253 247 I knew a guy who moved to Egypt to become a caairopractor.
*
I heard his buddy majored in cryptography.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022


***
Their mummies insisted they were both in de-nile.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 10:19 AM (c6xtn)

254 241 You could also tell her that projected casualties were so great, that the Allies were encouraging the Soviets to join them because we figured we'd have needed the cannon-fodder. Maybe she'd be worried about Soviet casualties instead??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 10:15 AM (UHVv4)

She has no issue with Allied casualties. But recognizing the fact that Japan was indeed very brutal will work to steer her from WWII talk. She's another Wiesenthal wannabe who sifts conservatives for their nazi proclivities. Both Bush and Trump were indeed Hitlers in the making to this woman. I avoid socializing with her, but her husband is my husband's best friend and it can be unavoidable.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:19 AM (ONvIw)

255 "If you only made certain to properly follow proper protocols, no such problems would exist. Properly follow proper protocols!"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:16 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Modern day translation hospital translation: "Yeah, we know the protocols kill people, but, we won't get sued if we do it this way."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 10:19 AM (5pTK/)

256 Gaylord. Or Bill Ayers.

embrace the healing power of "and."

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:20 AM (KfrSF)

257 I knew a guy who moved to Egypt to become a caairopractor.
*
I heard his buddy majored in cryptography.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022


***
Which one of them had the stronger khu-fu?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 10:20 AM (c6xtn)

258 I heard his buddy majored in cryptography.

******

Heh!
I think they were both in denial.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 10:20 AM (m45I2)

259 250 I would love for ONN "news" to be aired at airports instead of CNN.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:19 AM (Dc2NZ)


Is ONN the same as OANN because there's bad news about the latter:

https://tinyurl.com/5kw5rwtv

and the disease is probably spreading.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 10:21 AM (VXxTB)

260
Already out in pallets at Staples. Oh, those are reams of blank paper, my bad.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 16, 2022


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Didn't somebody do that, a pamphlet called The Wit and Wisdom of Gerald Ford, w/ blank sheets?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 10:22 AM (c6xtn)

261 Just put in an order for "The Book Woman of Troublesome Creek". It sounds like a great read. Thanks for posting about it and the link to the article.
Posted by: JTB at January 16, 2022 10:15 AM (7EjX1)


Unfortunately I read the sequel first..."The Troublesome Woman of Book Creek."

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 10:22 AM (axyOa)

262 @178 "The book Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen turned me off Bujold."

LMB is one of my sortof "I'll buy anything they write" authors. but I've never finished GJatRQ. The first couple chapters lost me.

OTOH, she hasn't completely lost it in her Penric series.

Posted by: yara at January 16, 2022 10:22 AM (hBsVD)

263 My father's shelves were not beautiful but they didn't sag in the middle. I decided to make some shelves to take to grad school that would double as shipping containers (in the trunk of my car). Of course I got them half-made and he had to finish them and they weighed several tons ... empty.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 09:46 AM (VXxTB)


Are you my brother?

The Old Man was a big believer in over-building bookshelves. He eventually settled on just stacking what were essentially open-faced rectangles. Ugly, but with a double layer of 3/4" pine, those bad boys would not sag when fully loaded with 3 linear feet of books.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 16, 2022 10:22 AM (pJWtt)

264 Anyway, I'll start the book after I finish the Greene book.

As for Seasoned Timber, I'm not expecting much, but am just looking for reinforcement of the idea that Dorothy Canfield Fisher was canceled not because of totally unsubstantiated racism, but because she was not a fan of empty education that refused to create functional adults.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:23 AM (ONvIw)

265 She has no issue with Allied casualties. But recognizing the fact that Japan was indeed very brutal will work to steer her from WWII talk. She's another Wiesenthal wannabe who sifts conservatives for their nazi proclivities. Both Bush and Trump were indeed Hitlers in the making to this woman. I avoid socializing with her, but her husband is my husband's best friend and it can be unavoidable.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:19 AM (ONvIw)
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Wow. She'd rather see a few million allied casualties, with attending Japanese deaths, versus the lives saved through dropping the atomic bomb? I can see why you'd avoid someone like that.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 10:23 AM (5pTK/)

266 The sad decline in hand-drawn graphic art movie posters has been noted by many movie fans, but a group of artists started doing something about it for the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema, and the company Mondo was formed. Their posters are collected in the book "The Art of Mondo".

"24X36: A Movie About Movie Posters":

https://tinyurl.com/yey66vm4

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:23 AM (Dc2NZ)

267 Who is going to write Veep Thoughts, the Wit and Wisdom of Kamala Harris?
It would be humor of course.
Posted by: N.L. Urker

Filled with such gems as this one - "It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day." - there's no doubt it will simply write itself.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 16, 2022 10:23 AM (mD/uy)

268 Way to step up and host a great Book Thread, Eris.

Your poor browser. I do not want to imagine what other codpieces you discarded as too outré.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 10:23 AM (u82oZ)

269 Time once again for this ONN bit: "Prague's Kafka International Named 'Most Alienating Airport'":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEyFH-a-XoQ
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:13 AM (Dc2NZ)


Strange new respect for O'Hare

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 10:23 AM (y7DUB)

270 I read a book once.

(Just trying to nudge the thread back on topic here, boss!)

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 10:23 AM (m45I2)

271 Tell her to read "Flyboys" in which captured US pilots were tied to trees while Japanese soldiers cut off pieces of their flesh, cooked and ate them, while the pilots watched.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 10:23 AM (jTmQV)

272 Have a great day, everyone.

May you be blessed with great books.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 10:24 AM (u82oZ)

273 >>> Yeah club her over head with the emotions of, "so you would be fine with One Million Americans being killed, crippled, or wounded?"

Along with obliterating Japanese culture.

We would have won, but they would have fought to the last grandmother.

Posted by: fluffy at January 16, 2022 10:24 AM (UnQlg)

274 Gaylord. Or Bill Ayers.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 10:15 AM (y7DUB)

The thought that the gay Kenyan would be able to write anything other than fisting pron is giving him too much credit!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 10:24 AM (7bRMQ)

275 By the way, I don't think that's an armed Bookmobile in the photo. That pipe looks like a stove flue, or possibly a re-routed engine exhaust.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:15 AM (QZxDR)

I read Eris' link about it. My gut feeling is that the bookmotank builder is a Leftist.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2022 10:24 AM (P3gRi)

276 Who is going to write Veep Thoughts, the Wit and Wisdom of Kamala Harris?
It would be humor of course.
Posted by: N.L. Urker


I keep reading that as Veep Throat.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 10:25 AM (axyOa)

277 *pauses*

Didn't one mayor of Tokyo tell a Hiroshima survivor to shut up because LeMay killed more in Tokyo from fire bombing?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:25 AM (KfrSF)

278 Ok back to books. Any William H Gass fans here?

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 10:26 AM (y7DUB)

279 Dang...
I've a friend who lives on the Washington coast. The wave surge from the volcano actually went over a foot along parts of the shoreline. The power of that thing must of been incredible.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 10:27 AM (axyOa)

280 She has no issue with Allied casualties.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:19 AM (ONvIw)
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Yes, this is typical. In dealing with liberals upset about the atomic bomb, I raise two points.

The first (which we've talked about here) is that a ground invasion would have killed far more JAPANESE than the bombs ever could. Her preening would have annihilated millions of Japanese women and children. How can she be such a monster?

The second is that prior to beginning our bombing campaign, US military planners consulted cultural experts on Japan and asked them to identify 25 sites of world-historical significance that must be preserved from harm. All of these were placed off-limits to military planners. The Japanese figured this out and began moving their weapons there, but the rule was non-negotiable - attacking these targets would destroy the irreplaceable cultural treasures of the Japanese people.

Name one country that in the history of the world took such pains to preserve the heritage of its enemy? Go ahead, I'm waiting...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:28 AM (llXky)

281 I've never seen any author do a good job of phonetically representing dialect. Not Mark Twain, not Dickens, not Hardy, not anyone.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (QZxDR)



If you are interested, take a look into David Ross Locke's Petroleum V Nasby works. Petroleum is a small minded, small souled individual who's goals are small corruptions which he pursues with OUTRAGE and bad English

Also if you can find it the Uncle Remus books are also dialect. Joel Chandler Harris.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 10:28 AM (ZMraq)

282 "Now, philanthropists may imagine there is an easy method of disarming and overcoming an enemy without great bloodshed, and that his is the proper tendency of the Art of War. However plausible this may appear, still it is an error which must be extirpated; for in such dangerous things as War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst. "

Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 10:28 AM (L9/32)

283 These people. Are legit scared Direct tv needs to get much smaller. Anything AT&T is garbage. I have been watching broadcast tv for a while. The Entra channel is interesting. My guess is they are.very conservative. They have a particular interest in China. They are all about pre commie China.It has something to do with the epoch times I think.

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 10:28 AM (HG3Fb)

284
Wow. She'd rather see a few million allied casualties, with attending Japanese deaths, versus the lives saved through dropping the atomic bomb? I can see why you'd avoid someone like that.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 10:23 AM (5pTK/)

She's generally an asshole who claims to be an intellectual. As for book related content, the woman is a librarian by trade, but obscures this.

On Canfield Fisher, I want to heckle the people who canceled her, and am assembling my "talking points". To cancel an author and remove her from an award named for her over a lie is something that needs to be addressed, IMO.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:29 AM (ONvIw)

285 Didn't somebody do that, a pamphlet called The Wit and Wisdom of Gerald Ford, w/ blank sheets?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 10:22 AM (c6xtn)


That's an old political trick. I believe someone once put out a blank booklet about the war record of Franklin Pierce.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 10:29 AM (2JVJo)

286 someone mentioned last week a book on the Confederacy starting 50 years before the Civil War, anyone remember? I thought I had bookmarked it, and searches have come up blank for it.

Posted by: Paladin at January 16, 2022 10:29 AM (kfMOd)

287 I guess I'm not understanding your definition of the word 'superior'. Or did you leave off the scare quotes.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 10:10 AM (m45I2)
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I'm joking, Muldoon. I'm clearly a middlebrow midwit. The author of the Superior Person's Book of Words series, Peter Bowler, loves obscure words and thinks of ways to employ them as insults or to twit the uninformed ("Just let me inspissate the soup!").

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:29 AM (Dc2NZ)

288 279 Dang...
I've a friend who lives on the Washington coast. The wave surge from the volcano actually went over a foot along parts of the shoreline. The power of that thing must of been incredible.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 10:27 AM (axyOa)
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Actually, generating a one-foot wave this far away...is pretty incredible.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:30 AM (llXky)

289 Good Sunday morning, horde!

"While OregonMuse is recovering from the effects of prolonged use of [Pervitin],..."

Haha, I had to look that up. Slander!

But, thanks for filling in with another great book thread, Eris!

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at January 16, 2022 10:30 AM (OX9vb)

290 re #213: The first time I read "The Worm Ouroborus" I did not enjoy it. I found the Elizabethan English Eddison used off putting. However, I immediately reread it (because I was camping at an archeological site and had nothing else to read) I found my mental ear had become attuned to his style and I enjoyed very much.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at January 16, 2022 10:30 AM (W2nXi)

291 If you are interested, take a look into David Ross Locke's Petroleum V Nasby works. Petroleum is a small minded, small souled individual who's goals are small corruptions which he pursues with OUTRAGE and bad English.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 10:28 AM (ZMraq)

So, he knew today's Democrats?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 10:31 AM (7bRMQ)

292 That's an old political trick. I believe someone once put out a blank booklet about the war record of Franklin Pierce.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 10:29 AM (2JVJo)

And more recently Reasons to vote for democrats, or something to that effect.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:32 AM (ONvIw)

293 271 Tell her to read "Flyboys" in which captured US pilots were tied to trees while Japanese soldiers cut off pieces of their flesh, cooked and ate them, while the pilots watched.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 10:23 AM (jTmQV)
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She'd say they were white racists patriarchs who deserved it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:32 AM (llXky)

294 My knowledge of Japanese atrocities and dirty tricks comes from Milton Caniff's comic strip "Terry and the Pirates."

In one scene, U.S. troops consider an approaching Japanese soldier to be "safe" because he has no shirt. When the soldier gets close enough, he raises his arms ... and out fall two live grenades. Scratch more U.S. soldiers.

I wonder what things Caniff chose to omit out of a sense of propriety.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 16, 2022 10:32 AM (Om/di)

295 I've never seen any author do a good job of phonetically representing dialect. Not Mark Twain, not Dickens, not Hardy, not anyone.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 09:43 AM (QZxDR)


You could try the "Mr Dooley" pieces by Finley Peter Dunne. "Dooley" was his character, an Irish bartender at the turn of the 20th century who would chat with "Hinnessy" (Hennessey), a bar patron who is the stand-in for the reader.

https://tinyurl.com/2crux68y

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 10:33 AM (2JVJo)

296 Check out the fixed link at "Pervitin" in the opening paragraph!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:33 AM (Dc2NZ)

297 I hope so; the abridged version wrecked any further interest in anything by Heinlen, which is surely unfair but waste my time and see what happens.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 09:48 AM (y7DUB)


Heinlein wrote that he wrote Stranger in a Strange Land in two fits, putting aside for a long while, but he wouldn't say where the break was. I read it the first time in two fits, and I suspect I lost interest in it about the same spot he did.

It does work as a bookends for his career, the first part is very much like Beyond this Horizon, and the last part is closer to the Lazarus Long period

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 10:33 AM (ZMraq)

298 Actually, generating a one-foot wave this far away...is pretty incredible.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:30 AM (llXky)


Water can't be compressed so is very efficient in transferring energy.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 10:34 AM (y7DUB)

299 I wish someone would write a book about the making of Manos: The Hands of Fate, which is another movie I actually like, and feel sorry for Hal Warren, who thought he was really making a good movie.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (2JVJo)

Torgo stole every scene he was in.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 10:34 AM (Fs5vw)

300 I really did not need to stumble across this:

From Pearl Harbor to Golgotha by Mitsuo Fuchida. Hard cover. 1953. Signed.

https://tinyurl.com/34a7vstk

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:34 AM (KfrSF)

301 I was at the used book store yesterday and picked up a number of Louis L'Amour books I hadn't read.

A few observations.

They usually have several of his faux leather binding books. Not a one. Just paperbacks.

There was not one copy of The Aeneid or any related books. The same for the various Landmark history books such as for Herodotus or Thucydides. I asked a staff member who said they can't keep books like that on the shelves. They come in, they go out.

The sections for Tolkien and Lewis were reduced to some paperback editions of the usual suspects. Hardcover or philosophical works were gone.

For some reasons, quarantine or the need for serious reading beyond romance beach books or some other unsettling matters, classics and better editions of favorites are darn attractive.

Posted by: JTB at January 16, 2022 10:34 AM (7EjX1)

302 That's an old political trick. I believe someone once put out a blank booklet about the war record of Franklin Pierce.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 10:29 AM (2JVJo)

And more recently Reasons to vote for democrats, or something to that effect.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:32 AM (ONvIw)

Famous Jewish Sports Legends

Posted by: Airplane! at January 16, 2022 10:35 AM (4I/2K)

303 I really did not need to stumble across this:

From Pearl Harbor to Golgotha by Mitsuo Fuchida. Hard cover. 1953. Signed.

https://tinyurl.com/34a7vstk

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:34 AM (KfrSF)

Buy it. You'll help a charity too. Interesting person. I mentioned him in a previous book thread.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 10:36 AM (7bRMQ)

304 I'm joking, Muldoon. I'm clearly a middlebrow midwit. The author of the Superior Person's Book of Words series, Peter Bowler, loves obscure words and thinks of ways to employ them as insults or to twit the uninformed ("Just let me inspissate the soup!").
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf


*****

Fair ennough. I'm just sensitized to the constant misuse of language as a weapon rather than a tool, and probably took that wrongly. I'm happy to leave it at that.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 10:37 AM (m45I2)

305 Didn't one mayor of Tokyo tell a Hiroshima survivor to shut up because LeMay killed more in Tokyo from fire bombing?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:25 AM (KfrSF)
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Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki had Catholic missionaries (Jesuits, I believe) and none of them died in either the attacks, or of subsequent radiation sickness.

They attributed it to the intercession of Our Lady, to whom they consecrated themselves.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:37 AM (llXky)

306 @JTB, on used book stores: Oddly enough, the city we lived in before moving, it was impossible to find used books. Meanwhile, the small city we moved to, less than a tenth the size, has stores selling used book everywhere.

Really amazing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 10:37 AM (5pTK/)

307 Another resource for back/neck pains ... "Bob & Brad", physical therapists on YouTube offer a lot of therapies and suggestions for various ailments ... mostly exercises for at home, or stretches. They include what other exams/therapy from a doctor might be useful.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 16, 2022 10:37 AM (Cus5s)

308 If she is bleating about the atomic weapons, good gosh.

Yeah club her over head with the emotions of, "so you would be fine with One Million Americans being killed, crippled, or wounded?"
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:10 AM (KfrSF)


These fools have been wringing their hands over the atom bomb, since 1945. They don't want to understand that the an invasion of mainland Japan would have been incredibly savage. The Japanese were training the peasants to fight with bamboo spears, they had Kamikaze planes prepared, and - we later learned - demolition swimmers in hidden underwater lairs.

I remember reading a memoir by a Marine that started as a buck private that enlisted just before Pearl Harbor and ended as an S-2 Captain by 1944. He was at a briefing for the amphibious landing and noticed that his division dropped off the concept of operations D-Day plus a few days and asked about it, thinking it was an oversight. He was rather taken aback by the cavalier reply that the planners assumed the division was be combat ineffective with over 50% casualties within three days. He shed no tears about the atom bomb. (I can't remember the book title, though).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 16, 2022 10:37 AM (pJWtt)

309
Chiropractors aren't really the witch doctors they are made out to be. Sometimes things don't line up the way they are supposed to and they put them back in alignment.

The key is to find a good one. Like any mechanic some are good and some not so much.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2022 10:15 AM


My wife and I were in a nasty rear end auto accident. We got hit at a weird angle and shot into oncoming traffic. I steered out of it and everyone hit the brakes and it was okay. But our backs were totally screwed. It was visible on my wife. She has always had a slight meridian line down her front that was now three inches to one side. It took a couple of months of chiro but eventually it straightened out and her pain went away.

Other options are those big exercise balls to roll your back on and that 'teeter' incline with the geriatric old guy who jumps up and down. Who can argue with that?

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 16, 2022 10:37 AM (dQvv7)

310 Viking-beard son gave me two Peter F. Hamilton books, Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained. Huge books, clocking in at about 800 pages each. C. J. Cherryh would have gotten a 10 book series out of them. Started them after Christmas and raced through them. I carried those books with me everywhere I went. What an imagination this guy has, along with the ability to transport you through time and space. Highly recommend.

Posted by: Deborah Donoho at January 16, 2022 10:38 AM (YkUJb)

311 Famous Jewish Sports Legends
Posted by: Airplane! at January 16, 2022 10:35 AM (4I/2K)

You mean like Mark Spitz, Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg? Not an empty book, IMO.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:38 AM (ONvIw)

312 252 Other books on Japanese atrocities:
Return from the River Kwai and Prisoners of the Japanese.

For really obscure there is War in the Indies: The Dutch in Wartime, Survivors Remember Anne Van Aragon Hutten, editor. It will show how nasty the Dutch were to the Javanese but also show the Japanese use of Dutch civilian women as 'comfort women.'
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:19 AM (KfrSF)

Also "Three Came Home" by Agnes Keith, was was interned with her son by the Japanese in Borneo. Her husband was interned in a men's camp.

Posted by: Rosley at January 16, 2022 10:38 AM (ZzVCK)

313 I will also put in a plug for A. H. Lloyd's great book "Long Live Death" about the Spanish civil war, a period of which I knew little before I read it.
It was a complicated business, to say the least.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 10:39 AM (jTmQV)

314 296 Check out the fixed link at "Pervitin" in the opening paragraph!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:33 AM (Dc2NZ)


Fixed ? How ? I just copied it into a DDG search. Pretty obvious and wikipedia has a thorough rundown.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 16, 2022 10:39 AM (VXxTB)

315 I wish someone would write a book about the making of Manos: The Hands of Fate, which is another movie I actually like, and feel sorry for Hal Warren, who thought he was really making a good movie.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 09:51 AM (2JVJo)

Torgo stole every scene he was in.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 10:34 AM (Fs5vw)
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I always thought there was a seed of an interesting story there. But it was told badly. I love the MST3K version...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2022 10:39 AM (K5n5d)

316 I will also put in a plug for A. H. Lloyd's great book "Long Live Death" about the Spanish civil war, a period of which I knew little before I read it.
It was a complicated business, to say the least.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 10:39 AM (jTmQV)

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Seconded.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 16, 2022 10:40 AM (5pTK/)

317 OrangeEnt

I already have a copy of the comic Attack! published by Spire Christian Comics that retells Fuchida's story. Yes a comic book.

The guy who brought the Word of G-D to Fuchida was the Rev. Jacob DeShazer who as Cpl. Jacob DeShazer was sentenced to life in prison by a 'merciful' Emperor Hirohito for his part in the Doolittle Raid.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:40 AM (KfrSF)

318 I will also put in a plug for A. H. Lloyd's great book "Long Live Death" about the Spanish civil war, a period of which I knew little before I read it.
It was a complicated business, to say the least.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 10:39 AM (jTmQV)
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Thanks!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:41 AM (llXky)

319 313 I will also put in a plug for A. H. Lloyd's great book "Long Live Death" about the Spanish civil war, a period of which I knew little before I read it.
It was a complicated business, to say the least.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 10:39 AM (jTmQV)

And clouded by an ignorant need to elevate one side to the level of saint hood. My cousin, just turned 96, was married to a Spanish Civil War veteran who lived of that distinction until the day he died.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:42 AM (ONvIw)

320 >>I knew a guy who moved to Egypt to become a caairopractor.
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I heard his buddy majored in cryptography.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022



til they found out it was just another pyramid scheme

Posted by: DB at January 16, 2022 10:42 AM (geLO8)

321 I second MP4's recommendation of Dunne's Mr. Dooley stories; much of their wit & wisdom is still applicable over a century later, and his phonetic rendering of "back of the Yards" Irish dialect seems pretty flawless to me.

try gutenberg.org for free versions of his work, the search string "dunne, finley peter" will produce them posthaste !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 16, 2022 10:42 AM (9CuDT)

322 When you look for a chiropracter, look for an older one. Mine has been in business 50 years.

I got a copy of Giants inthe Earth by O. E, Rolvaag. I read it some time ago and still remember how stunned I was at the end. It's one of the better books about Scandinavians immigrating to the US and settling in cold country.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 16, 2022 10:42 AM (YynYJ)

323 seriously, I got nuthin'

the last thing I read was an owner's manual to my new oven

Posted by: DB at January 16, 2022 10:42 AM (geLO8)

324 Read the accounts of Japanese atrocities at Palawan where they were ordered to kill 150 POW's. The Japanese systemically wipe out American POW' s by herding them into an underground bunker, dumping aviation fuel and burning them alive. Those who tried to escape were cut down with machine guns fire and bayoneted or cut down with swords. Some jumped of a 60 foot cliff onto the rocks or tried to swim away as they were shot for sport. Others tried to hide in the rocks and were systemically eliminated in cruel and tortuous ways. It was inhumane brutality at its worst, and that was only one incident. Any person trying to defend us dropping the bomb, rather then continue to face these evil people and lose thousands more lives are in order to defeat the Japanese in some humane way doesn't know the first thing about war or it's costs. War is consequential. It is death and the objective is to kill and subjugate the enemy until they've lost their will to fight. Period. Only then does it end.

I had family who fought in both theaters. There's a reason the ones who fought in the pacific never forgave the Japanese.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 10:43 AM (L9/32)

325 You know how you never heard of something then, all of a sudden, it's all you hear about? I had such an experience reading Robert Harris' V-2. In a forward, the author tell us that this is an historical novel and the characters are fictitious except for such well known historical figures as he lists several including SS Gruppenfuehrer Hans Kammler. I thought I was fairly up on my Nazi war criminals but I'd never heard of him. He was quite a guy, a caricature of an evil Nazi. For example, in late March 1945 Kammler ordered the ZV division (units that operated the V-2 rockets) to execute forced laborers and their families (200 men, women and children) after his car was held up on a crowded road in the Sauerland. Kammler was reported to have felt he was under some "vague threat" so "this riffraff ought to be eliminated". He is believed to have committed suicide in 1945.

Then I stumbled across The Hidden Nazi: The Untold Story of America's Deal with the Devil by Keith Chester who contends that the US covered up for and sheltered Kammler. And this is not a cheap conspiracy theory knock off; such illuminaries as Alan Dershowitz praise it. I bought the book but have 1/2

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 16, 2022 10:43 AM (FVME7)

326 The guy who brought the Word of G-D to Fuchida was the Rev. Jacob DeShazer who as Cpl. Jacob DeShazer was sentenced to life in prison by a 'merciful' Emperor Hirohito for his part in the Doolittle Raid.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:40 AM (KfrSF)

Fuchida first was introduced by the treatment he received from a Christian nurse while interned after the war. He didn't get it and started reading the Bible. Anyway, the book is signed by Fuchida and it doesn't look like it's too expensive. Why not get it?

Anyway, off to gainzzz.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 16, 2022 10:43 AM (7bRMQ)

327 The Johnson sketch on Blackadder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSYiT2iG08
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 16, 2022 09:07 AM

Never. Not. Funny.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 16, 2022 10:44 AM (or10G)

328 Also "Three Came Home" by Agnes Keith, was was interned with her son by the Japanese in Borneo. Her husband was interned in a men's camp.

Posted by: Rosley


I kinda remember that. Then there was a BBC series about English women prisoners of the Japanese called I think Ten-ko.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:44 AM (KfrSF)

329 You mean like Mark Spitz, Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg? Not an empty book, IMO.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:38 AM (ONvIw)

No, not blank but a leaflet in the movie.

Posted by: Airplane! at January 16, 2022 10:45 AM (4I/2K)

330 the last thing I read was an owner's manual to my new oven
Posted by: DB

The most recent owner's manual I viewed had a section on how to open the box and unpack the bike - on page 17.

No kidding.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 16, 2022 10:45 AM (mD/uy)

331 I'm about halfway through The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and would categorize it as more of a YA novel than a work of great literature. After I started it I found out that Huckleberry Finn was held in much higher regard; which doesn't imply I don't find Tom interesting; just kind of trite. Or maybe Twain isn't for me.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 16, 2022 10:03 AM (y7DUB)


Tom Sawyer was a seminal book, it was very different than prior "young boy" books in that it was also focused on adult readers, not just school boys.
The first reason it was big was because it was well written and Tom was not a good boy, but not evil or "saved" at any point, he was just a wild, adopted kid making a space in the world for himself.
It is also a memory of a time and life that had disappeared, pre-civil war, is another way it is a "boomer-nostalgia" for older readers.

Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn are a form of American Picaresque novels, and really the first for America. It helped that Twain is a master of English language.
The reason it is hackneyed is because everyone copied it.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 10:46 AM (ZMraq)

332 Off topic: check out Scott Manley's YouTube channel for a very good video about the Tonga eruption. Lots of satellite imagery.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2022 10:46 AM (QZxDR)

333 No, not blank but a leaflet in the movie.
Posted by: Airplane! at January 16, 2022 10:45 AM (4I/2K)

Maybe you'd care to explain the motivation for this comment. It's not the first time you've made it.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:47 AM (ONvIw)

334 There's a reason the ones who fought in the pacific never forgave the Japanese.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 10:43 AM (L9/32)

My dad fought on Iwo Jima and he was not to fond of them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 10:47 AM (Irn0L)

335 The Japanese officers having a contest to cut off as many heads is a good one, or tossing babies in air for sword practice should do the trick if she gets that far.

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 10:47 AM (2JoB8)

336 You mean like Mark Spitz, Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg? Not an empty book, IMO.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:38 AM (ONvIw)

Apparently the boys on the Yeshiva University basketball team are kicking ass. They had a 50 game winning streak last year:
https://tinyurl.com/3e52r4kr

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 16, 2022 10:49 AM (HabA/)

337 Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:40 AM (KfrSF)

I first saw his story in a comic book as well. There were several. One about Jim Elliot the 'He is no fool' missionary martyr, one about the book of Revelation, Hansi: Girl Who Loved the Swastika, about a Hitler Youth girl who came to Christ after the war (that was how I knew at a young age how the soviet soldiers treated conquered women), and I *think* one about Corrie Ten Boom.

No idea where my parents got them, but they certainly made the lives of modern Christians of note accessible to an eight year old

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 10:49 AM (nC+QA)

338 333 No, not blank but a leaflet in the movie.
Posted by: Airplane! at January 16, 2022 10:45 AM (4I/2K)

Maybe you'd care to explain the motivation for this comment. It's not the first time you've made it.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:47 AM (ONvIw)
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"Stewardess, do you have something light?"

"Maybe you'd enjoy this leaflet, "Famous Jewish Sports Legends."

I think Barbara Billingsley (who is also fluent in Jive) was the woman.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:50 AM (llXky)

339 Ah here we go, joint BBC/ABC production. Ran for four years. Tenko

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenko_(TV_series)

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:50 AM (KfrSF)

340 2/2 I bought the book but have only begun to read it. One question leaps to mind: Why would we shelter this guy? Although late in the war he ran the V-2 program, he was not a scientist or technician so he shouldn't of been eligible for the von Braun exception. He was a civil engineer and helped design the death camps and eventually replaced Goering as an arms production czar but all that was bureaucratic. So why did Hans get a sweetheart deal?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 16, 2022 10:51 AM (FVME7)

341 At one of the MST3K conventions they had a "March of the Torgos" for all the people cosplaying as the lurching henchman, set to the wonderfully evocative "Torgo's Theme":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skmdmf_ER50

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:51 AM (Dc2NZ)

342 Apparently the boys on the Yeshiva University basketball team are kicking ass. They had a 50 game winning streak last year:
https://tinyurl.com/3e52r4kr
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 16, 2022 10:49 AM (HabA/

This character likes to drop that line periodically. I should have ignored it as I usually do.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:51 AM (ONvIw)

343 "My dad fought on Iwo Jima and he was not to fond of them
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 10:47 AM (Irn0L)"

The ones who fought in the European theater made peace with the average German soldier (not the SS, although they said towards the end of the war some of them were younger and pressed into service). But those from the pacific theater had contempt for the Japanese until they left this earth.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 10:52 AM (L9/32)

344 Oh! Also one about Andrew van der Bijl known as Brother Andrew and "God's Smuggler" for his work in bringing Bibles behind the Irirn Curtain.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 10:53 AM (nC+QA)

345 Speaking of Airplane!, last night I introduced a friend to "Top Secret." What a hoot.

Sooo politically incorrect. Yes, we all know the East German Women's Olympic Team gag, but the sign-countersign words the spies use are pretty funny.

"Who is a good white basketball player?"

"There are no good white basketball players."

"When betting on women's tennis, always put your money on the lesbian."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:53 AM (llXky)

346 Kammler probably got swept up in Operation Paperclip since he was part of the A-4 program. Which is why Werner von Braun ended up in the US, to keep the scientists away from the Soviets.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 10:55 AM (KfrSF)

347 Greetings:

My father was an infantryman of the BAR ilk on Saipan and Peleliu. He used to enjoy saying that the only thing wrong with the A-bombings was we only had two.

Tried to read "War Without Mercy" about WW II racism. Only got into the first chapter where the author, apparently in an effort at mitigation wrote that, in their 41-42 offensive, the imperial Japs only invaded countries that the Euros had already colonized.

It's been a while since I've come across any mention of the Japs see themselves as the People of the Sun, hence their flag.

Posted by: 11B40 at January 16, 2022 10:57 AM (uuklp)

348 I also ordered a knitting pattern book. The author is too woke for me, so I found a cheap used copy on ebay.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:57 AM (ONvIw)

349 also re Bujold, have you read any of the Penric & Desdemona novellas she's been producing ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 16, 2022 10:14 AM (9CuDT)


I had some on order but USPS decided I didn't live in my house and returned them

I liked her Sharing Knife books, they are on the surface very shallow, but if you start looking at them they are pretty compelling.
She is a very good writer.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 10:58 AM (ZMraq)

350 LOL, the sun is out today and in checking my phone a reflected spot appeared on the wall.

Cat shot off like a guided missile to catch it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:58 AM (llXky)

351 "My dad fought on Iwo Jima and he was not to fond of them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 10:47 AM (Irn0L)

My uncle fought on Guadalcanal and hated them for the rest of his life.

We never went to Japanese restaurants with him...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 10:58 AM (Q9lwr)

352 Speaking of BBC series: I just ran across an episode on YooToob of a late '80s Lord Peter Wimsey series, an adaptation of the novel Have His Carcase, with Peter Etherbridge as Lord Peter and Harriet Walter as Harriet Vane. Part 1 of 4. No idea if it's good, a good adaptation, or what. I'll watch it this afternoon.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 10:58 AM (c6xtn)

353 Greetings:

Has anyone read David Garrow's MLK jr bio ???

Posted by: 11B40 at January 16, 2022 10:58 AM (uuklp)

354 Some assembly required...

We bought a stainless topped island for our kitchen. It came in two large boxes. The instructions had no words, only pictures. The pictures looked like they had been drawn by a monkey. On crack.

That was fun.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2022 10:59 AM (BFigT)

355 There's the concept of total war where you crush your enemy and their will to fight. Where as Von Clausewitz wrote you do nothing that proceeds from "benevolence". But that has nothing to do with what the Japanese perpetrated which was pure evil. It was sadistic and wasn't about winning a war. It was about elimination, and genocide performed in a sick tortuous demeaning way. It that war glorifies the sanctity of life in any way, but it is generally fought within certain boundaries. The Japanese had none except extermination.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 10:59 AM (L9/32)

356 >>> 178 Kindltot
The book Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen turned me off Bujold.
[pixy trim]
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (u82oZ)

If people would behave the way she portrays them - which seems to be how the "smart" people *think* people behave, but they're wrong - it wouldn't be so bad.

Also wrt to this book - I thought she had reasonably well explained Aral's interest in Cordelia. However this story seemed like a massive retcon given Cordelia's response to Vidal V telling her about Aral's bisexuality had been 'yeah, so what now he's monogamous' which I always took as 'he's-all-mine-HA!'. Plus, no one, not even Miles, ever wondered about Aral and 'recruiting-poster' Jole...?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 16, 2022 10:59 AM (llON8)

357 My uncle fought on Guadalcanal and hated them for the rest of his life.

We never went to Japanese restaurants with him...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 10:58 AM (Q9lwr)

My uncle who was in the navy, felt the same way.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 10:59 AM (ONvIw)

358
The ones who fought in the European theater made peace with the average German soldier (not the SS, although they said towards the end of the war some of them were younger and pressed into service). But those from the pacific theater had contempt for the Japanese until they left this earth.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 10:52 AM (L9/32)

My dad never forgave them. Nothing but total contempt for the Japs.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 11:01 AM (Fs5vw)

359 My mechanic's father, in his '90s now, was a young soldier in the Pacific. I don't know what he thought or thinks of the Japanese. But he told me that when he heard the news that the A-bomb had been dropped on Japan, and then that the Japanese had surrendered -- so he wouldn't have to go on the invasion of the islands -- he was never so happy in his life.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 11:02 AM (c6xtn)

360 To this day, almost nobody in the family has bought a Japanese automobile or tv.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 11:02 AM (L9/32)

361 Last week I asked if anyone was familiar with books by Maggie O'Farrell, especially the The Vanishing Act of Esme Lennox. Amazon regularly recommends it to me, and the reviews are good, but, in honesty, I never heard of the author.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:03 AM (ONvIw)

362 Back in the late 60's, I saw "The Wit and Wisdom of Sprio T. Agnew" in a bookstore near Sausalito. Totally blank.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 11:04 AM (smVBh)

363 359 My mechanic's father, in his '90s now, was a young soldier in the Pacific. I don't know what he thought or thinks of the Japanese. But he told me that when he heard the news that the A-bomb had been dropped on Japan, and then that the Japanese had surrendered -- so he wouldn't have to go on the invasion of the islands -- he was never so happy in his life.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 11:02 AM (c6xtn)

I bet. My father and uncles all enlisted and state they were concerned about moving to the Pacific front. They were glad not to.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:05 AM (ONvIw)

364 Oh yeah, books:

"Tripoint", another in the Union-Alliance Cherryhverse.

Just started "Abigail Adams: Witness to a Revolution" by Natalie S. Bober. Abigail always felt hampered because she never received a formal education, but you would never know it from her letters. Her own home housed one of the top libraries in New England, and she was a voracious reader, so in that sense she was very well-read indeed. Her parents were also concerned about all the illnesses floating about, as Abigail was a bit frail.

I liked the romance between the headstrong Abigail and short, stocky, brash, opinionated John. He was NOT considered a good catch because he was a full-time lawyer who road the circuit of small towns performing legal duties. It was not considered a gentlemanly occupation.

John was so worried that smallpox germs might infect his letters that he smoked them before sealing then]m, insisted she fumigate them again upon receipt.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 11:05 AM (Dc2NZ)

365 Where as Von Clausewitz wrote you do nothing that proceeds from "benevolence". But that has nothing to do with what the Japanese perpetrated which was pure evil. It was sadistic and wasn't about winning a war.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 10:59 AM (L9/32)
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Cruelty has two purposes. One is to horrify the enemy into compliance, but this doesn't work if you commit the atrocities where the main force of the enemy can't see them. That leads us to the second, which is to dehumanize your own troops, make them conscious of their crimes so that they will fight harder lest what they did be done to them.

This was what the SS often did (and some of the Wehrmacht).

What the Germans specifically got wrong was that brutality is often less effective than calculated benevolence. Franco figured this out fairly early on in Spain and instead of executing prisoners, he ordered them to be treated well and even allowed them to enlist in his armies (albeit under observation). This allowed him to literally poach troops directly from the other side and accelerated his war effort.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:05 AM (llXky)

366 someone mentioned last week a book on the Confederacy starting 50 years before the Civil War

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More progressive history.

The New Republic
@newrepublic
There's a long history of non-citizen voting in America. Even the Confederacy embraced it.
. . . .
even the Confederacy, which at first feared alien suffrage would swell the ranks of abolitionist immigrants, succumbed to immigrant voting to attract workers after the Civil War.
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I didn't even know there was a Confederacy after the Civil War.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 16, 2022 11:05 AM (FVME7)

367 Prince Philip's father, Lord Mountbatten, would never have anything to do with the Japanese because he knew what they did.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 11:06 AM (smVBh)

368 If you were Japanese and attended a Don Rickles event, God help you.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 11:06 AM (jTmQV)

369 But American girls were giving the boys a farewell romp, which he thought was a far, far better deal. "I'm going to go off to die and all I get is a belt? Seriously??!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 09:39 AM (llXky)

There is a church in Little Italy that has a statue of the Virgin with a crown made from the wedding rings of girls whose husbands didn't come back. About once a generation, some low life forgets where the church is, and steals the crown. Two or three days later, the down mysteriously reappears, and the Harbor Squad gets called out for a floater in the East River. No connection at all.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 16, 2022 11:07 AM (qyH+l)

370 My dad recovered from wounds in Japan. He later served over there and got so good with chopsticks, his host family blushed. No doubt they were ferice and cruel warriors. But time moved on.. Many US vets have fond memories of Japan. Now the Chinese, Koreans, et all still have a major grudge.

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 11:07 AM (8Hw9I)

371 Dang...
I've a friend who lives on the Washington coast. The wave surge from the volcano actually went over a foot along parts of the shoreline. The power of that thing must of been incredible.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 10:27 AM (axyOa)

A volcano? Where?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2022 11:07 AM (P3gRi)

372 My grandpa didn't hate the Japanese, but he never had to actually fight then either since he was a mechanic and worked on the officers' cars. He did guard some who were prisoners, but none tried anything with him, especially once the word got around that he was Popeye (even though he was army not a sailor) after he easily moved an anvil three of the prisoners couldn't move.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 11:07 AM (nC+QA)

373 Speaking of Airplane!, last night I introduced a friend to "Top Secret." What a hoot.
Sooo politically incorrect. Yes, we all know the East German Women's Olympic Team gag, but the sign-countersign words the spies use are pretty funny.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 10:53 AM (llXky)

Very good but nothing beats the episode of Get Smart

Max : Who wrote Little Women?
Counter Agent: The book or the screen play ?
Max: There was a book?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 11:08 AM (RJMSR)

374 "Prince Philip's father, Lord Mountbatten, would never have anything to do with the Japanese because he knew what they did."

Uncle.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 16, 2022 11:10 AM (4thlk)

375 Prince Philip's father, Lord Mountbatten, would never have anything to do with the Japanese because he knew what they did.
Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 11:06 AM (smVBh)
Mi believe Mountbatten was Phillip's paternal uncle.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 16, 2022 11:10 AM (qyH+l)

376 I published my 21st book a week ago. Still haven't received physical copies but it's also on Kindle. I'm actually proud of the insights I've included in these essays although I'd be happier if not-my-POTUS hadn't inspired them. I've been predicting for almost 20 years that we're headed to Civil War 2.0 and it's basically here now.

I treat my books like rock albums, a-side and b-side. For some reason I've been thinking about Guns'n'Roses for a while now and there's a lot of essays on them here. Buy it, read it, love it, force your friends to get a copy, all that stuff.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09Q1W1C8Q

Posted by: ChrisW at January 16, 2022 11:10 AM (zFMsi)

377 I sit corrected.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 11:11 AM (smVBh)

378 My father also fought in Korea and spent time in Japan. Hard to believe we had nuked them just 6 years prior.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 11:12 AM (RJMSR)

379 Two uncles were in the navy stationed on destroyers on station near the Philippines and Okinawa. One was on the Renshaw which was torpedoed. Neither of them cared for the Japanese at all.

Sidenote: The Renshaw was tended to by the repair ship Prometheus.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 16, 2022 11:13 AM (mD/uy)

380 OK, folks, I recorded Orson Welles' F for Fake last night, so am going off to watch it. Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 11:13 AM (2JVJo)

381 In the tv show Wings, Antonio loved the book ,'Scarlette" He didn't know there was a prequel called Gone with the Wind.

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 11:13 AM (8Hw9I)

382 Back in the late 60's, I saw "The Wit and Wisdom of Sprio T. Agnew" in a bookstore near Sausalito. Totally blank.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022


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That might have been what I was thinking of.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 11:14 AM (c6xtn)

383 CN,

If you are a cable knitter, Janet Szabo is not woke. She moved all her designs off Rav and onto her own website, bigskyknittingdesigns.com

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 16, 2022 11:15 AM (YynYJ)

384 378 My father also fought in Korea and spent time in Japan. Hard to believe we had nuked them just 6 years prior.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 11:12 AM (RJMSR)


Was he there when Gozira ripped through Tokyo?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 11:15 AM (Fs5vw)

385 I worked for Tokio Marine for 8 years . Got a lot of insight to the Japanese upper management male mind. Yeah most thought everyone not Japanese were inferior. ( again not all of them) .

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 11:16 AM (RJMSR)

386 A biography of Lord Mountbatten could be a good read

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 11:16 AM (2JoB8)

387 My wife's therapist asked her to read I'm Okay, You're Okay and she asked me to obtain a copy.

I looked at her and said "Seriously? That's still in print?"

She'd never heard of it - just young enough to have missed the 70s. I told it was kind of a big deal.

At the subsequent Mass, the priest (a Gen Xer like me) made a reference to it during the homily and I gave her a "see I told you so" look. She hasn't finished it yet.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:17 AM (llXky)

388 "What the Germans specifically got wrong was that brutality is often less effective than calculated benevolence. Franco figured this out fairly early on in Spain and instead of executing prisoners, he ordered them to be treated well and even allowed them to enlist in his armies (albeit under observation). This allowed him to literally poach troops directly from the other side and accelerated his war effort.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:05 AM (llXky)"

The Romans were of course quite proficient at this and used it successfully as a strategy to build their empire (see Tacitus where he speaks of conquering Britannia). I believe the German military leadership (at least those traditionally trained, not the lackeys) were largely opposed to unnecessary violence with defeated troops. They realized this could cut both ways and when it was perpetrated that was proven true. The Japanese just didn't care and I suppose, alluding to your post, used that as a motivator. Plus it was inherent in their culture. Surrender was a disgrace and to ensure people would fight harder they ingrained a sense that you would die either by the enemy or your own hand.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 11:17 AM (L9/32)

389 Was he there when Gozira ripped through Tokyo?
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 11:15 AM (Fs5vw)

No but did return to see Mothra.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 11:17 AM (RJMSR)

390 380 OK, folks, I recorded Orson Welles' F for Fake last night, so am going off to watch it. Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2022 11:13 AM (2JVJo)

I enjoyed that film.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:18 AM (ONvIw)

391 If you are a cable knitter, Janet Szabo is not woke. She moved all her designs off Rav and onto her own website, bigskyknittingdesigns.com
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 16, 2022 11:15 AM (YynYJ)

Thanks!

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:19 AM (ONvIw)

392 Surrender was a disgrace and to ensure people would fight harder they ingrained a sense that you would die either by the enemy or your own hand.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 11:17 AM (L9/32)

Which reminds me of Patton's awesome quote.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 11:19 AM (RJMSR)

393 Last week I read "Shattered Sword", which is the Battle of Midway from the Japanese perspective. Excellent book.

Am also in the middle of the Wayward Galaxy series by Rick Partlow and JN Chaney. Military sci-fi.

In unrelated news, the US Navy is getting a new Frigate, the Constellation class. Looks like it is stacked with offensive weapons and will be a very versatile vessel:

https://tinyurl.com/New-Frigate

Anything to help us Navy vets forget about the execrable "Literal Crappy Ship*".

*The Littoral Combat Ship, which is a useless platform and which has been a complete waste of time and money to produce.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 11:19 AM (8gxrg)

394 the last thing I read was an owner's manual to my new oven
Posted by: DB

The most recent owner's manual I viewed had a section on how to open the box and unpack the bike - on page 17.
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In my used truck's voluminous manual, I found that there was *one* dog-eared page, 'How to set the clock'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 16, 2022 11:20 AM (WAylS)

395 I can see I am never going to get caught up as I was a lazy layabed this morning.
Eris, great job. So clever and funny. All of the COBs been doing a terrific job of filling in but I miss OM. Feel better OM.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 16, 2022 11:20 AM (Y+l9t)

396 A really interesting book about being an American POW of the Japanese is The Adventures of Eddie Fung.

Fung was a Chinese American Soldier who was in the TX Nat. Guard when it was federalized, and was sent to Dutch East Indies where everyone was captured, and he worked on the other end of the construction of the Burma Siam railroad from the Brit POWs (in River Kwai)

He goes from being raised in CA to becoming a cowboy, to being a POW to being a post war Sargent with eating disorders due to his starvation in the camp.

Very touching book: https://tinyurl.com/ywmxjeay

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 11:22 AM (ZMraq)

397 I believe the German military leadership (at least those traditionally trained, not the lackeys) were largely opposed to unnecessary violence with defeated troops.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2022 11:17 AM (L9/32)
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I don't know, the Germans were "making examples" of partisans back in 1871 and while they were not the monsters they were made out to be in Belgium in 1914, they were stupidly cruel with their counterproductive retaliations. "We're civilized! Watch us burn this town down!"

I think another factor was that Japan's society was demilitarized for centuries before the Meiji era and so the conscripts had little real experience of being a warrior, so I think the brutality was specifically designed to harden them. The samurai class was worried that the peasant farmers wouldn't fight, so went to extremes to fire them up.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:22 AM (llXky)

398 My dad recovered from wounds in Japan. He later served over there and got so good with chopsticks, his host family blushed. No doubt they were ferice and cruel warriors. But time moved on.. Many US vets have fond memories of Japan. Now the Chinese, Koreans, et all still have a major grudge.
Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 11:07 AM (8Hw9I)


Yeah, my Dad was a fighter pilot against the Japanese in the Pacific in WWII and his only brother was killed when the Japanese bombed the Franklin.

And he didn't carry a grudge against the Japanese. It was war. We fought. They lost and paid the price. Now we're allies. That pretty much summed up what he thought.

But, it's weird how often the Book Thread collapses into a Japanese hate contest by folks who didn't fight one goddam second against the Japanese in WWII.

It that...well, what? obsession that gives credence to the charges of racism for the libtards to pick at and play with. Imagine that.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 16, 2022 11:23 AM (5NkmN)

399
In unrelated news, the US Navy is getting a new Frigate, the Constellation class. Looks like it is stacked with offensive weapons and will be a very versatile vessel:

https://tinyurl.com/New-Frigate

Anything to help us Navy vets forget about the execrable "Literal Crappy Ship*".

*The Littoral Combat Ship, which is a useless platform and which has been a complete waste of time and money to produce.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 11:19 AM (8gxrg)

I'm also getting the impression that the F35 is slowly gaining a decent reputation.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 11:24 AM (Fs5vw)

400 Looks like it is stacked with offensive weapons and will be a very versatile vessel:

Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 11:19 AM (8gxrg)
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Can it evade container ships? That seems to be something of a problem.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:25 AM (llXky)

401 >.Can it evade container ships? That seems to be something of a problem.



and will it catch fire while docked?

Posted by: DB at January 16, 2022 11:26 AM (geLO8)

402 Was he there when Gozira ripped through Tokyo?

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That's one of my favorite bluegrass standards.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - lin-duh, sorry it took so long, look in the comments for the liquid at January 16, 2022 11:27 AM (jZJe9)

403 To be clear I mean Korea and Vietnam vets. We turned the country quickly to our needs. We still have many servings there today

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 11:27 AM (8Hw9I)

404 The F-35 is following the path of the F-111.

After throwing away $10 billion we finally are getting a useful airplane.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:28 AM (KfrSF)

405 also name field test

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 11:28 AM (jZJe9)

406 Still reading The Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons, the second book in the series. Having trouble paying attention. Just got to the part where what is going on is kind of explained but I still don't get it. I think by the time one gets through more than half of a second( and final) book in a series, one should have some idea of what the plot is. Just....war. Not why they are fighting the war, who is fighting the war, even when exactly they are fighting the war. Just confused.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 16, 2022 11:28 AM (Y+l9t)

407 Finished Crichton's State of Fear. I always seem to set a fast pace through thrillers (and isn't that how it's supposed to be?). I'd say it was one of his weaker efforts. I think he was more concerned with getting the facts about the global warming scaremongering industry out there than the plot. Dos Passos travel stuff got better once he was through with Spain and into the Caucasus. I'm enjoying the Charterhouse of Parma. Replaced State of Fear with Imperial Sunset: The Fall of Napoleon 1813-1814

Posted by: who knew at January 16, 2022 11:28 AM (4I7VG)

408 But, it's weird how often the Book Thread collapses into a Japanese hate contest by folks who didn't fight one goddam second against the Japanese in WWII.

It that...well, what? obsession that gives credence to the charges of racism for the libtards to pick at and play with. Imagine that.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 16, 2022 11:23 AM (5NkmN)
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I disagree with that characterization. The topic came up relating to a book on The Rape of Nanking, which is something many people don't know about. I haven't seen a single comment that suggests we should still hate the Japanese.

There are remarks about how Pacific War vets tended to be less willing to forgive than ETO ones, which is factual, also not a "hate" thing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:28 AM (llXky)

409 I seriously doubt 7th Fleet will ever live down having two CGs loose screws and two DDG's colliding with merchant ships.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:29 AM (KfrSF)

410 There are remarks about how Pacific War vets tended to be less willing to forgive than ETO ones, which is factual, also not a "hate" thing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:28 AM (llXky)

Exactly, yet fewer people know much about the war in the Pacific, probably due to fewer movies and the incessant hitlerization of political foes.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:30 AM (ONvIw)

411 403 To be clear I mean Korea and Vietnam vets. We turned the country quickly to our needs. We still have many servings there today

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 11:27 AM (8Hw9I)
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Lots of troops came home from tours in Japan rather liking the place. My kids are anime addicts and also enjoy visiting the local Japanese eateries and markets.

I have to say my research on Chinese history has made me look upon Japan more favorably.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:31 AM (llXky)

412 401 >.Can it evade container ships? That seems to be something of a problem.



and will it catch fire while docked?
Posted by: DB at January 16, 2022 11:26 AM (geLO


What's more important is do they have douche stations for the transgendered?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 11:31 AM (Fs5vw)

413 One Japanese atrocity that oft times slips through the cracks is their reprisals against Chinese civilians after the Doolittle Raid.

Some 250,000 Chinese civilians in the region where the Raiders crashed were murder in revenge.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:32 AM (KfrSF)

414 Read Pixie Noir this week. Its an "urban fantasy" although almost none of it takes place in an urban environment. The universe is pretty interesting and its a good take on faerie court politics and European fae stuff. It has a super, super powerful female character, but she's not written as a mary sue and she's got serious limitations. The guys aren't treated as servants and puppets either, the titular Pixie is pretty badass, if not a pixie really.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:33 AM (KZzsI)

415 The F-35 is following the path of the F-111.

After throwing away $10 billion we finally are getting a useful airplane.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:28 AM (KfrSF)
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We're getting lots of feedback from the various competitions (Red Flag) and I think that's why other air forces are placing orders.

The big question mark is what the PLA's aviation can actually do. No one knows.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:33 AM (llXky)

416 The Associated Press
@AP
Replying to @AP
BREAKING: The FBI says the Texas synagogue hostage taker's demands were specifically focused on issue not connected to the Jewish community.

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Helluva coinkidink!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 16, 2022 11:34 AM (FVME7)

417 BREAKING: The FBI says the Texas synagogue hostage taker's demands were specifically focused on issue not connected to the Jewish community.

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Helluva coinkidink!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 16, 2022 11:34 AM (FVME7)
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So he's a Democrat and an anti-Semite then. Good to know.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:35 AM (llXky)

418 -
Helluva coinkidink!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 16, 2022 11:34 AM (FVME7)

Yet, the dead perp chose a synagogue and Jewish hostages. Sounds like a lot is missing from the FBI assessments.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:35 AM (ONvIw)

419 Thanks CRT. Pixie looks like my kind of book.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 16, 2022 11:36 AM (Y+l9t)

420 >>BREAKING: The FBI says the Texas synagogue hostage taker's demands were specifically focused on issue not connected to the Jewish community.


I don't believe this for a second
oh I believe the FBI 'said' it- but they lie and break the law routinely, so...

Posted by: DB at January 16, 2022 11:36 AM (geLO8)

421
Yet, the dead perp chose a synagogue and Jewish hostages. Sounds like a lot is missing from the FBI assessments.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:35 AM (ONvIw)
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They're scrubbing his social media as we speak.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:36 AM (llXky)

422 BREAKING: The FBI says the Texas synagogue hostage taker's demands were specifically focused on issue not connected to the Jewish community

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It's weird how it involved the Jewish synagogue.

You know, it seems like taking Jews hostage would be an issue connected to the Jewish community, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 11:36 AM (jZJe9)

423 Considering the F-35 started in 1986 as a replacement for the Harrier before morphing into a Swiss Army knife of a plane...

I am sorry, the plane is still a turd. A very expensive turd. And only with real combat like the F-111s did in Desert Storm might change my opinion.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:36 AM (KfrSF)

424 An example of how tough the war in the Pacific could be was my uncle's experience. He was in the Coast Guard, and would later joke if he knew they'd meant the coast of Japan, he wouldn't have joined up.

His unit crewed landing craft at such vacation spots as Iwo Jima and Okinawa. After landing their troops, the craft would back off the beach and hold, in case they were ordered to go back in to evacuate troops.

The troops were ordered by no means to swim back to the landing craft, no matter how panicked they might be, as anyone approaching the craft would be shot for fear of enemy sabotage. No one knows how many of our troops died that way.

Posted by: Brett at January 16, 2022 11:36 AM (DCf+C)

425 I don't believe this for a second
oh I believe the FBI 'said' it- but they lie and break the law routinely, so...
Posted by: DB at January 16, 2022 11:36 AM (geLO

When was the last time the fbi told the truth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 11:37 AM (Irn0L)

426 Almost hate-crime-ish if a honkey Trump supporter had done it, I bet.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 11:37 AM (jZJe9)

427 UP NEXT: the FBI loses all the evidence

Posted by: DB at January 16, 2022 11:37 AM (geLO8)

428 H was a good boy. He just wanted Skittles.

Posted by: Hostage Taker's Mom at January 16, 2022 11:37 AM (Xrfse)

429 One Japanese atrocity that oft times slips through the cracks is their reprisals against Chinese civilians after the Doolittle Raid.

Some 250,000 Chinese civilians in the region where the Raiders crashed were murder in revenge.
Posted by: Anna Puma

OMG !

Posted by: JT at January 16, 2022 11:38 AM (arJlL)

430 Anything to help us Navy vets forget about the execrable "Literal Crappy Ship*".

*The Littoral Combat Ship, which is a useless platform and which has been a complete waste of time and money to produce.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 11:19 AM (8gxrg)




No one in the Navy wanted those pieces of junk. They were forced onto us by multiple committees of people who had no real Naval experience. It was a design concept looking for a mission.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 16, 2022 11:38 AM (bVYXr)

431 trying to think of what USGovt agency I don't yet despise...

Posted by: DB at January 16, 2022 11:38 AM (geLO8)

432 One Japanese atrocity that oft times slips through the cracks is their reprisals against Chinese civilians after the Doolittle Raid.

Some 250,000 Chinese civilians in the region where the Raiders crashed were murder in revenge.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:32 AM (KfrSF)
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Japan did all sorts of awful things to the Chinese (like spread diseases) and I think the relative pass they got was actually racist insofar as the assumption was that they weren't fully "civilized" and that under American government, they would be.

The Germans were supposed to know better.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:38 AM (llXky)

433 Speaking of BBC series: I just ran across an episode on YooToob of a late '80s Lord Peter Wimsey series, an adaptation of the novel Have His Carcase, with Peter Etherbridge as Lord Peter and Harriet Walter as Harriet Vane. Part 1 of 4. No idea if it's good, a good adaptation, or what. I'll watch it this afternoon.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 10:58 AM (c6xtn)


It's quite good. As with all adaptations, there are minor things to quibble with, but on the whole it follows the story and the characters are much as you would imagine them. Well, except for one, but as it's not Wimsey himself I'll just leave it at that and let you come to your own conclusions, although if one in particular jumps out at you I'd be interested to see if you name the same person.

Posted by: HTL at January 16, 2022 11:39 AM (G6nPO)

434 The book Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen turned me off Bujold.
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I know she is highly regarded by people I respect here, but I just . . . can't do it. Overwritten and consciously 'literary'. Some of the Miles V short stories focusing on solving a mystery were good, but overall, no thank you.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 16, 2022 11:39 AM (MIKMs)

435 I don't believe this for a second
oh I believe the FBI 'said' it- but they lie and break the law routinely, so...
Posted by: DB at January 16, 2022 11:36 AM (geLO
When was the last time the fbi told the truth
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 11:37 AM (Irn0L)

Concur. The Las Vegas shooting is still a deep, dark mystery wrapped in a riddle around an enigma.

Or something like that.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 16, 2022 11:39 AM (R/m4+)

436 Ate oatmeal, had coffee, now back in bed. Take nap.

Posted by: Eromero at January 16, 2022 11:40 AM (0OP+5)

437 Jihadist goes into a random building that just is a coincidence to be a synagogue.
Sure

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 11:40 AM (2JoB8)

438 You know, it seems like taking Jews hostage would be an issue connected to the Jewish community, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 11:36 AM (jZJe9)

The sister decided the case was a Jewish conspiracy and wanted no Jews on the jury, she even went as far as to demand genetic testing.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:40 AM (ONvIw)

439 @373 --

I once encountered a Millennial who was surprised that James Bond originated in a book series. Still remember his shocked outburst.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 16, 2022 11:41 AM (Om/di)

440 Regarding H P Lovecraft...kinda sorta.

So, I was reading the comments over at Insty, when someone referenced R A Lafferty...badly. He got the name of the story wrong and what happened in it wrong as well.
The story is titled, "Mr Hamadryad" and concerns the end of the era of ape-evolved humans turning into the era of "cat evolved" humans.

And it struck me while rereading "Mr Hamadryad" that R A Lafferty is probably the writer closest to HP Lovecraft in this regard: so often his stories concern an overthrow or end of or evolution of the world by forces we can barely understand.
Only in Lafferty's case, he's not coming from the perspective of horror but rather tall tales, fables, mythologies, and religion. And his objective most of the time is humor and amusement.

"Mr Hamadryad" isn't one of his best stories. Those were written in general in the 70s when he was a sadly under-read world class short story writer. But, it's certainly one of his better late-period stories.

It's available online, I believe and in some collections.

Masterworks "The Best of R A Lafferty" is a good starting place for him though a lot of his best is missing.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 16, 2022 11:41 AM (5NkmN)

441 I am also reading the Levon Cade series.

If you like stuff like Jack Reacher or the older men's action books like the Destroyer, you'll like these books. Its basically a badass special forces guy who destroys bad guys, but has a little girl he's trying to keep out of this crap and protect. It makes him a bit more complex a character and introduces a pretty interesting complication to all the stories.

And I am going slowly through The Forgotten Man by Amity Shlaes (the graphic novel) which is very dense despite being in comic book format and is very informative and interesting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:41 AM (KZzsI)

442 trying to think of what USGovt agency I don't yet despise...

*

Didn't they manage to f*ck up running a whorehouse?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 11:41 AM (jZJe9)

443 Jihadist goes into a random building that just is a coincidence to be a synagogue.
Sure

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 11:40 AM (2JoB
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Synagogues are more common than Walmarts though, so I mean, where else could a guy go?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:42 AM (llXky)

444 I know they were looking for a better Harrier with the F-35 but without considering the boondoggle it became should we have shut down the production of the F-22 ? Did it have its own problems besides cost? ( it's my understanding the upfront costs of development is what makes the per plane cost so high) .

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 11:42 AM (RJMSR)

445 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 16, 2022 10:59 AM (llON

I will not defend Bujold on this one, It is more of a "tidy the universe up and do a happy ending IMHO.
I suspect it was one of those contract things, especially since she also self published another one that sounds more compelling (sequel to A Civil Campaign called Flowers of Vashnoi that features butterbugs and muties)

Bujold doesn't write books for me, she writes them for her own reasons, but she could re-write a Korean BBQ menu into a best-seller.
I mean, I hate Michael Z Williamson's mustache, too, but I doubt he will shave it because of what I like.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 11:42 AM (ZMraq)

446 He was turning his goat around.

Posted by: Hostage Taker's Mom at January 16, 2022 11:42 AM (Xrfse)

447 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:33 AM (KZzsI)

I liked that one. Author is a commenter at Sarah Hoyt's blog, so definitely not woke.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 11:43 AM (nC+QA)

448 The sister decided the case was a Jewish conspiracy and wanted no Jews on the jury, she even went as far as to demand genetic testing.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:40 AM (ONvIw)
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You just have to marvel at the thought process that celebrates the death of the Jooos and then insists that it never happened and in fact the Jooos set it up to make other people look bad.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:43 AM (llXky)

449 I've always loved this sketch. Is that Robbie as Johnson?

"I believe Mr. Johnson is saying he's finished his book after ten years."
"Yes, well, I'm a slow reader myself!"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 16, 2022 10:01 AM (Dc2NZ)



Coltrane? Yep.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 16, 2022 11:44 AM (ZSK0i)

450 F-22 production was shutdown before even meeting USAF requirements. And then the tooling was destroyed. Thanks Democrats.

One of the knock-off effects was F-15Cs flying for longer. Hence the lost of those F-15Cs due to fatigue. And why the USAF is still looking at a next gen F-15.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:44 AM (KfrSF)

451 It's quite good. As with all adaptations, there are minor things to quibble with

Sometimes the adaptations make a better product, though. I don't really enjoy reading Agatha Christie Poirot books but the David Suchet films are really great and easy to enjoy. They made some changes (like the Captain is in it a lot more) but they are changes that are better.

Christie was an amazing thinker and idea creator but her books aren't always a very easy or good read.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:45 AM (KZzsI)

452 You just have to marvel at the thought process that celebrates the death of the Jooos and then insists that it never happened and in fact the Jooos set it up to make other people look bad.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:43 AM (llXky)

I'm sure it payed well back in Pakistan.
The FBI is of course lying about "motive", and is actively covering up why the brother would choose Jewish hostages. They did not mention the sister's frequent mention of Jewish conspiracies and the attribution of the verdict to Israeli interests.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:46 AM (ONvIw)

453 One of the knock-off effects was F-15Cs flying for longer. Hence the lost of those F-15Cs due to fatigue. And why the USAF is still looking at a next gen F-15.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:44 AM (KfrSF)
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The F-15X.

Thing is, even the F-16 platform has some tricks left. The conformal fuel tanks add speed and reduce radar signature. The Taiwanese are getting some seriously sexed-up ones with an amazing A2A missile load.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:46 AM (llXky)

454 Cop in Minneapolis, with black cop standing by as backup, doesn't restrict airflow of druggie who dies from overdose, nation burns because black people whatever.

Muslim literally takes Jews hostage in a Jewish synagogue and it has nothing to do with Jews.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 11:46 AM (jZJe9)

455 On YouTube I am seeing trailers for a new Death on the Nile movie. The settings looks scrumptious.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:47 AM (KfrSF)

456 For Reacher fans, there is a series coming in February. Trailer shows that the actor who I don't recognize actually looks like the character in the book. Kind of a big hulking guy who could wander around the country with only a toothbrush and not worry about getting mugged.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 16, 2022 11:47 AM (Y+l9t)

457 Also, the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes stories: several of the lesser stories were made a lot better by the shows. I mean I love the original stories and I think Doyle is an extremely underrated author, but some of those later stories were just not great.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:47 AM (KZzsI)

458 On YouTube I am seeing trailers for a new Death on the Nile movie. The settings looks scrumptious.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:47 AM (KfrSF)
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It will have to be Woke. That's the new rule.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:47 AM (llXky)

459 obama had a huge hand in shutting down the F-22

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 11:48 AM (Irn0L)

460 What the Germans specifically got wrong was that brutality is often less effective than calculated benevolence. Franco figured this out fairly early on in Spain and instead of executing prisoners, he ordered them to be treated well and even allowed them to enlist in his armies (albeit under observation). This allowed him to literally poach troops directly from the other side and accelerated his war effort.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:05 AM (llXky)


I was told, second/third hand, that Nationalist troops would empty the jails in towns they captured, and shoot the prisoners. My source thought it was because anyone the Republican forces didn't shove into the front lines were were just that bad, and I thought it was probably because they were purged Anarchists being held for trial and execution and no one would trust them.

Does this square with anything you read?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 11:48 AM (ZMraq)

461 I'm also getting the impression that the F35 is slowly gaining a decent reputation.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons



It will take me a few more years to accept the '35. I'm still pining over the F14 Tomcat being retired.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 11:49 AM (8gxrg)

462 Kind of a big hulking guy who could wander around the country with only a toothbrush and not worry about getting mugged.

That is what I like about the Levon Cade series; its Reacher, but with a little kid, and not such a cartoon superman. Imagine trying to be on the run and stay unnoticed and anonymous... while homeschooling a tween girl.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:49 AM (KZzsI)

463 obama had a huge hand in shutting down the F-22

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 11:48 AM (Irn0L)
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The GOP made that stupid "sequestration" deal to balance the budget (it didn't) but it did gut military spending, including new ship construction and aircraft procurement.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:49 AM (llXky)

464 It will have to be Woke. That's the new rule.

Hercule Poirot will be a black lesbian trans woman

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:50 AM (KZzsI)

465 Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:44 AM (KfrS

What requirements didn't it meet? Was it truly a next generation plane that was just too expensive?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 11:51 AM (RJMSR)

466 The F-16 has been an amazing design. It has grown in capabilities without radically changing the basic fuselage. As opposed to the YF-17 for the Navy.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:51 AM (KfrSF)

467 444 I know they were looking for a better Harrier with the F-35 but without considering the boondoggle it became should we have shut down the production of the F-22 ? Did it have its own problems besides cost? ( it's my understanding the upfront costs of development is what makes the per plane cost so high) .

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 11:42 AM (RJMSR


Just remember. The B29 was a big problem child for it's time also.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 11:51 AM (Fs5vw)

468 I was told, second/third hand, that Nationalist troops would empty the jails in towns they captured, and shoot the prisoners. My source thought it was because anyone the Republican forces didn't shove into the front lines were were just that bad, and I thought it was probably because they were purged Anarchists being held for trial and execution and no one would trust them.

Does this square with anything you read?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 11:48 AM (ZMraq)
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No, but I haven't gotten too deep into the civil war era. I'm working my way forward from ancient times. Just finishing off the Tang Dynasty right now.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:51 AM (llXky)

469 The GOP made that stupid "sequestration" deal to balance the budget (it didn't) but it did gut military spending, including new ship construction and aircraft procurement.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:49 AM (llXky)

Yeah sequestration was a one of the worst republican ideas of all times as was the infrastructure compromise backed by the republican dopes in this congress

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 11:52 AM (Irn0L)

470 Also I am reading an old Max Brand story The Untamed.

His books are a bit old fashioned (written very early 20th century) but the man could write, and he wrote a LOT. He created a lot of incredibly iconic characters in the 20th century like Dr Kildare and wrote hundreds of books.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:52 AM (KZzsI)

471 Hercule Poirot will be a black lesbian trans woman

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:50 AM (KZzsI)
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No, he will be gay, but also incompetent. The black lesbian will be the one who solves the mystery but never gets credit because racism.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:53 AM (llXky)

472 404 and 415 Re: F-35

There's plenty of blame to go around for cost overruns.

Possible solutions include having voters hold Congressmen accountable at election time; but this is a bit of a stretch, since most people's single issue isn't whether or not a particular weapons program is delivered on-time and on-cost. Encouraging politicians to learn from McNamara's mistakes thinking one airframe could do more than one mission more effectively than not would be another. Having the services state requirements and freeze the requirements would be another. . . but you'd lose the flexibility to add unexpected technology developments like faster microprocessors or redesigned antennae or new sensor configurations.

While redesigns are underway, the companies have got to offer their engineers competitive salaries. High-level math and computer programming are skills that transfer well to other industries. Having teams of dozens of engineers redesigning a modern aircraft over and over again is going to be an economically expensive endeavor in a market economy.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at January 16, 2022 11:53 AM (t0cxj)

473 For Reacher fans, there is a series coming in February. Trailer shows that the actor who I don't recognize actually looks like the character in the book. Kind of a big hulking guy who could wander around the country with only a toothbrush and not worry about getting mugged.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 16, 2022 11:47 AM (Y+l9t)
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Mrs D pointed this out to me last night...she's already jazzed for it to start.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 11:53 AM (axyOa)

474 @441 --

CRT, who drew that?

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 16, 2022 11:53 AM (Om/di)

475 Hercule Poirot will be a black lesbian trans woman
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:50 AM (KZzsI)

Branaugh again. I will avoid it.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:53 AM (ONvIw)

476 On YouTube I am seeing trailers for a new Death on the Nile movie. The settings looks scrumptious.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:47 AM (KfrSF)


I like that it's not one of Christie's stories that hasn't been filmed to death. Filmed once, I think. And I haven't seen it.

It's not like Agatha Christie didn't write a million novels,

Posted by: naturalfake at January 16, 2022 11:54 AM (5NkmN)

477 Yeah sequestration was a one of the worst republican ideas of all times as was the infrastructure compromise backed by the republican dopes in this congress

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 11:52 AM (Irn0L)
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I have had people tell me that the infrastructure bill was 4d chess because it was being used as leverage to force through the truly crazy stuff. By getting it off the table, the left is now frantically devouring itself.

I don't agree, but that's what people on the inside tell themselves to get to sleep at night.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:54 AM (llXky)

478 I think I just double negatived myself into incoherence.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 16, 2022 11:54 AM (5NkmN)

479 Branaugh again. I will avoid it.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:53 AM (ONvIw)

*snort*

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 16, 2022 11:55 AM (PiwSw)

480 CRT, who drew that?

Paul Rivoche, he's not a huge name but the style is perfect for the book. As an illustrator, I can say that this kind of thing is super hard to draw for because its basically a bunch of very similar looking people talking and interacting. You have to find a way to make that interesting and visually powerful and he really did a great job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:55 AM (KZzsI)

481 #459 and #463 pretty much sum it up.

But not the first time DC managed to make an awesome plane so expensive it became unaffordable. I give you the B-2.

If you chop the number of planes bought, the R+D cost has to be factored into fewer airframes. So the price rises and it gets more expensive so yet more planes are cut and it becomes a bitter cycle.

Unless you have powerful patrons like the F-18 Mafia and the JSF Mafia. Which goes back to DC and spreading contractors and sub-contractors to as many Congressional districts as possible.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 11:55 AM (KfrSF)

482 While redesigns are underway, the companies have got to offer their engineers competitive salaries. High-level math and computer programming are skills that transfer well to other industries. Having teams of dozens of engineers redesigning a modern aircraft over and over again is going to be an economically expensive endeavor in a market economy.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at January 16, 2022 11:53 AM (t0cxj)
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Trump's concept of a new Century Series was intriguing. Probably another reason the Pentagon hated him - less opportunity for graft.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:56 AM (llXky)

483 The F-15 family has proven fairly resilient. That has affected both the F-22 and 35 programs in different ways.

I believe a F-15EX (or whatever its designation is now) has been greenlighted for low production numbers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2022 11:56 AM (BFigT)

484 I have had people tell me that the infrastructure bill was 4d chess because it was being used as leverage to force through the truly crazy stuff. By getting it off the table, the left is now frantically devouring itself.

I don't agree, but that's what people on the inside tell themselves to get to sleep at night.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:54 AM (llXky)



The asshole republicans who were rick rolled by the dems on infrastructure are lucky manchin held firm for some reason. Otherwise the left would have won out 100%

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 11:56 AM (Irn0L)

485 Branaugh can do amazing stuff, his Henry V is magnificen, I liked his Thor. But he can do real crap too and the man himself is utterly insufferable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:57 AM (KZzsI)

486 The late Paul Fussell, who was a combat veteran of the fight against Germany in WW2 and who was scheduled to die invading the Japanese mainland, wrote an excellent musing about A-bombing the Japanese called "Thank God for the Atom Bomb". Google that name for a pdf download that is a fantastic read from someone whose life was saved by our bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

He was also a tremendous writer of other books, namely "The Great War and Modern Memory", "Wartime", "The Boy's Crusade", and "Doing Battle: The Making of A Skeptic".

I highly recommend all of his works.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 11:57 AM (8gxrg)

487 *snort*
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 16, 2022 11:55 AM (PiwSw)

Also features Armie Hammer. If I want to see it I'll rewatch the 1978 version, or the Suchet one.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 11:57 AM (ONvIw)

488 Been out of it on brandy and and pain killers for a bad shoulder. Is the muzzie dead?

Posted by: Infidel at January 16, 2022 11:59 AM (qpolg)

489 I think Armie Hammer is way better than the roles he's gotten. I mean, the poor bastard did The Lone Ranger. But he was supposedly great in Man from UNCLE

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:59 AM (KZzsI)

490
The asshole republicans who were rick rolled by the dems on infrastructure are lucky manchin held firm for some reason. Otherwise the left would have won out 100%

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 11:56 AM (Irn0L)
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Counterpoint: The GOP leadership knew the dissident Dems could not hold firm if the left tie-barred infrastructure to the other bills, so they arranged a deal to push it through which then allows the other bills to be locked out.

I'm not supporting this, just saying it is worth doing counterfactual analysis.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 12:00 PM (llXky)

491 489 I think Armie Hammer is way better than the roles he's gotten. I mean, the poor bastard did The Lone Ranger. But he was supposedly great in Man from UNCLE
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 11:59 AM (KZzsI)

He's my candidate for a Silence of the Lambs remake!

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:00 PM (ONvIw)

492 Although I am sure that the Opposition admire and would love to be the WW2 Nazis..bureaucracy who made themselves aristocracy...I just don't see the functional parallels. The Nazis won over the Army by promising them a chance to get revenge and reclaim glory, Germany was a mess and they promised and succeeded for a while at making things better for the average German, and their pet hate object and blame group was a distinct minority that let's face it, was generally not liked by the average European as well as the average German. These modern dorks only appeal to the bureaucrat top military braas, make life worse for the average American, promise that the rest of the world will be allowed to get "revenge" on America, and attempt to make their hate object and blame group more than half the country heavily skewed towards the more useful and functional ones. Not a good long-term strategy

Posted by: Azjaeger at January 16, 2022 12:00 PM (3/XaG)

493 Branaugh can do amazing stuff, his Henry V is magnificen, I liked his Thor. But he can do real crap too and the man himself is utterly insufferable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


I can always see him in the style of the film. Just the way the thing looks is as distinctive as Tim Burton. Branaugh has beauty, Burton has bizarre.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 16, 2022 12:00 PM (Vxu+H)

494 Sharkman thank you for the Paul Fussell mention!

he was also an excellent Professor

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 16, 2022 12:01 PM (j9HX3)

495 Counterpoint: The GOP leadership knew the dissident Dems could not hold firm if the left tie-barred infrastructure to the other bills, so they arranged a deal to push it through which then allows the other bills to be locked out.

I'm not supporting this, just saying it is worth doing counterfactual analysis.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 12:00 PM (llXky

The only thing preventing BBB passing was one guy. Manchin. And he never held firm before. SOme ricky bet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 12:01 PM (Irn0L)

496 Some 250,000 Chinese civilians in the region where the Raiders crashed were murder in revenge.

Posted by: Anna Puma



The Japanese managed to kill 20 million Chinese in their decade-long war in China.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 12:01 PM (8gxrg)

497
I can always see him in the style of the film. Just the way the thing looks is as distinctive as Tim Burton. Branaugh has beauty, Burton has bizarre.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 16, 2022 12:00 PM (Vxu+H)
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Dead Again was funny.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 12:01 PM (llXky)

498 I tried 2 Bujold books and thought they were ok but bland

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 12:01 PM (lCui1)

499 I like Branaugh's "Mary Shelley's Frankenstein" quite a bit.

It hews closer to the book and is great at bringing the horror, esp when the "bride" of the monster appears.

Though admittedly, I could have done without DeNiro as the monster. He seems more like an Igor sort.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 16, 2022 12:02 PM (5NkmN)

500 COVID NOOD

I warned ya

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at January 16, 2022 12:02 PM (2JoB8)

501 No, but I haven't gotten too deep into the civil war era. I'm working my way forward from ancient times. Just finishing off the Tang Dynasty right now.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 11:51 AM (llXky)


Sorry, Spanish civil war.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 12:02 PM (ZMraq)

502 The B-29 program was started before the US was bombed at Pearl Harbor. And was actually intended to bomb Europe from the US.

But a lot of the problems centered around the Wright R-3350. It was rushed into production and had a bad habit of catching fire in B-29s. Even with four engines producing 2,500HP each, the B-29 with fuel and bombs was a strain they simply could not hack.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 12:02 PM (KfrSF)

503 @480 --

Thanks for the quick reply.

I "read" "The Forgotten Man" through audiobook.

Might look for the GN.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 16, 2022 12:03 PM (Om/di)

504 Armie Hammer

The baking soda magnate, right?

Posted by: That guy who always asks... at January 16, 2022 12:03 PM (Xrfse)

505 Sorry, Spanish civil war.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 12:02 PM (ZMraq)
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Oh. Ooooh. Yeah, during the early part of the war there were lots of random executions going on. Pretty much a free-for-all on both sides.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 12:04 PM (llXky)

506 Though admittedly, I could have done without DeNiro as the monster. He seems more like an Igor sort.

Branaugh is big on stunt casting. He loves to put big names in his movies like Keanu Reeves and Denzel Washington even if they don't really fit or make sense.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:04 PM (KZzsI)

507 Name one country that in the history of the world took such pains to preserve the heritage of its enemy? Go ahead, I'm waiting...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd



Israel.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 12:04 PM (8gxrg)

508 Thanks for this excellent thread, Eris.



Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 12:05 PM (8gxrg)

509 The baking soda magnate, right?
Posted by: That guy who always asks... at January 16, 2022 12:03 PM (Xrfse)

Grandson, I think. The one battling the cannibal sexual abuse allegations.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:05 PM (ONvIw)

510 352 Speaking of BBC series: I just ran across an episode on YooToob of a late '80s Lord Peter Wimsey series, an adaptation of the novel Have His Carcase, with Peter Etherbridge as Lord Peter and Harriet Walter as Harriet Vane. Part 1 of 4. No idea if it's good, a good adaptation, or what. I'll watch it this afternoon.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 16, 2022 10:58 AM (c6xtn)

There was an earlier BBC series with Ian Carmichael as Wimsey. Avoid.

Posted by: Rosley at January 16, 2022 12:07 PM (ZzVCK)

511 Armie Hammer

The baking soda magnate, right?

Posted by: That guy who always asks




Armand Hammer is the baking soda dude who is also a fucking commie.

Armie Hammer is a shitty actor.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 12:07 PM (8gxrg)

512
The Japanese managed to kill 20 million Chinese in their decade-long war in China.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 12:01 PM (8gxrg)

And that was all before the millions killed during Mao's cultural revolution.

Life is cheap in China.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 12:07 PM (Fs5vw)

513 510 I tend to like Edward Petherbridge, it was a pretty good adaptation

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:09 PM (ONvIw)

514 The one book-to-TV show to avoid is BBC's recent Father Brown series. They got nearly every single possible thing wrong with the character. I mean, trying to follow up GK Chesterton is not an easy task to begin with but its like they deliberately got it all wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:10 PM (KZzsI)

515 514 The one book-to-TV show to avoid is BBC's recent Father Brown series. They got nearly every single possible thing wrong with the character. I mean, trying to follow up GK Chesterton is not an easy task to begin with but its like they deliberately got it all wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:10 PM (KZzsI)

You mean that it's pretty damn woke in terms of themes? It was.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:13 PM (ONvIw)

516
Israel.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 16, 2022 12:04 PM (8gxrg)
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Yeah, but that's not going to be a persuasive argument given the audience.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 12:13 PM (llXky)

517 I got a copy of Giants inthe Earth by O. E, Rolvaag. I read it some time ago and still remember how stunned I was at the end.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward

Giants in the Earth is a great book. I actually remeber looking at in our high school library thinking it might be SciFi. Didn't read it until I was in my 50s maybe. Loved it. The Emigrants (and it's two follow ups) by Wilhelm Moberg are also very good. Both authors are essential reading if you have any interest in the Midwest.

Posted by: who knew at January 16, 2022 12:15 PM (4I7VG)

518 I highly recommend Bujold's Penric and Desdemona series as well as her Curse of Chalion and Paladin of Souls. I think Bujold "gets" religion in a way that most other writers do not. Even writing about a fantasy religion, it feels true and its effects on people and their lives are realistic. At least to my mind. These books are where I first came in contact with Bujold, rather than the more famous Vor saga books.

This week I finished The Sun Also Rises as part of my personal "Fifty Classics in Five Years" challenge. Boy, I thought the Russians drank a lot. They've got NOTHING on the Lost Generation folks. I ended up liking it better than I expected to, largely because there was an introduction by Amor Towles and it helped me think about the book. I think you should never read another author's introduction until AFTER you finish the book. Otherwise, too much is spoiled.

Posted by: SummaMamaT - the one always late to the party at January 16, 2022 12:15 PM (USQVR)

519 Yeah, but that's not going to be a persuasive argument given the audience.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 12:13 PM (llXky

Israelis have been careful not to demonize Arab culture, generally. It would not play well in the West, and they are surrounded by Arabs. They have also seen what becomes of leaders who try to secularize Muslim countries, and want no part.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:18 PM (ONvIw)

520 482 AHL >>Trump's concept of a new Century Series was intriguing. Probably another reason the Pentagon hated him - less opportunity for graft.
*****
We have to start imposing discipline on Congress to get the best value out of these modern weapons systems. 435 districts and 50 states conducting elections every 2 or 6 years isn't ever going to result in an abatement of this issue.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at January 16, 2022 12:18 PM (t0cxj)

521 Boy, I thought the Russians drank a lot. They've got NOTHING on the Lost Generation folks.

Hemingway's depiction of lost generation culture and behavior was... not exactly accurate, it was more his bizarre vision of how things were and reflected him a lot more than the world.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (KZzsI)

522 AHL -- What section of the ops center did you work during DEEPWATER HORIZON?

I was in the DH Air Support Scheduling cell.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (t0cxj)

523 Branaugh's Much Ado About Nothing is my favorite although looking at the list of Shakespearefilms he's made, I have it seen all of them.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (Y+l9t)

524 I don't like the play Much Ado, but Branaugh made it pretty fun and the casting was so wild it was hard to ignore.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:23 PM (KZzsI)

525 No, he will be gay, but also incompetent. The black lesbian will be the one who solves the mystery but never gets credit because racism.

Miss Lemon.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 12:26 PM (smVBh)

526 I was in the DH Air Support Scheduling cell.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (t0cxj)
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I started out in External Affairs but for my sins was moved to the JIB.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 16, 2022 12:32 PM (llXky)

527 Currently rereading " A day in the life of Ivan Denisovich" .Seems appropriate. Also reading an apologetic book recommended by our SMH, " Person of Interest " by J Warner Wallace. So far, very concise and well presented.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * be ungovernable at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (7qvSd)

528 Denisovich is the only Solzhenitsyn book I have read, mostly because its short and small. I remember it being sad and grim but well written.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:44 PM (KZzsI)

529 The infected ship is a Norwegian Cruise Line job

https://tinyurl.com/2p86ks4z

The passengers are not able to deport anywhere, which is making the cruise kind of dull (they are calling it a "nightmare" which seems shrill and ridiculous, I mean riding a mobile resort is THAT bad if you can't get off at a fancy port?)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:53 PM (KZzsI)

530 526 AHL >> Sins. . . ?

I definitely need to finish reading your book. What did you do, run a spirit mission against the Civil Air Patrol folks there?

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at January 16, 2022 12:55 PM (t0cxj)

531 Lovecraft:
The best parable of Leftism and eventual Enlightenment perhaps ever written is Lovecrafts "The Quest of Iranon"

Posted by: birddog at January 16, 2022 01:09 PM (uAI4S)

532 Denisovich is the only Solzhenitsyn book I have read, mostly because its short and small. I remember it being sad and grim but well written.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

The Solzhenitsyn Reader is a great addition to anyone's library. It contains excerpts from his novels, essays and short stories. Bought copies for both my kids for Christmas.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * be ungovernable at January 16, 2022 01:09 PM (7qvSd)

533 >>> 445 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 16, 2022 10:59 AM (llON

I will not defend Bujold on this one, It is more of a "tidy the universe up and do a happy ending IMHO.
I suspect it was one of those contract things,
especially since she also self published another one that sounds more compelling (sequel to A Civil Campaign called Flowers of Vashnoi that features butterbugs and muties)

Bujold doesn't write books for me, she writes them for her own reasons, but she could re-write a Korean BBQ menu into a best-seller.
I mean, I hate Michael Z Williamson's mustache, too, but I doubt he will shave it because of what I like.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 11:42 AM (ZMraq)

Yes, so much this! The book seemed to be so much "going through the motions" vs just about anything else she's written recently, before or after it.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 16, 2022 01:26 PM (llON8)

534 Letters from Russia 1919 by P.D. Ouspensky free at archive.org/details/lettersfromrussia-1919

Five letters about the revolution. About one hour reading time. It's free and in public domain.

Posted by: 13times at January 16, 2022 01:28 PM (6v4jQ)

535 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 16, 2022 01:26 PM (llON

There were rumors at the time it was published that she felt like she was done with that series but was contractually obligated to write a couple more and so decided to burn that universe on her way out. Whatever the cause, I've stayed away from Red Queen so as not to taint the memory of the other books I've read (and because 2 guy threesomes are gross).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 01:32 PM (nC+QA)

536 William Tenn on the future of the codpiece: https://tinyurl.com/bdfhshff .

Posted by: Don at January 16, 2022 01:38 PM (fvP4F)

537 176 I am thinking of seeing a chiropractor for the first time in my life.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 09:53 AM (jTmQV)

I would recommend finding a chiropractor that utilizes SOT. It is not a whack and crack technique and works well. Here is a random (meaning I don't know this doctor, but know the technique) link that has a video showing something of what they do:
google zenapticchiropractic dot com /sacro-occipital-technique-sot-blocking/

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - says FU at January 16, 2022 01:43 PM (hlxe7)

538 Tolle lege indeed.

Posted by: LASue at January 16, 2022 02:03 PM (7uCN/)

539 I have a recommendation that I feel awkward making.

Stormy Omartien's Power of the Praying Wife. It's set up in 31 categories so it makes for a good devotional. Each category has a bunch of Scripture references in the discussion, the prayer, and as "Power Tools" at the end of each category. Also, very (most?) importantly this is explicitly *not* a 'Lord, make him do what I want' book. It starts with the wife asking the Lord to change her heart and goes from there. I don't expect that everyone would agree with everything in it or find it all applicable, but neither does the author. I plan on giving a copy to each of my daughters as they get married and to my daughter-in-law when my Son marries.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 202

my son just got engaged to a wonderful girl who he met in church. I'll definitely add this to my list of engagement/wedding gifts.

Posted by: LASue at January 16, 2022 02:08 PM (7uCN/)

540 When you need a pedant, I'll be there:

The 'ithy-' in 'ithyphallic' means 'straight': 'fish-dicked' would be 'ichthyphallic'.

Long version from American Heritage Dictionary - first hit for the word in DDG:

"ithyphallic
adjective
1. Of or relating to the phallus carried in the ancient festival of Bacchus.
2. Having the penis erect. Used of graphic and sculptural representations.
3. Lascivious; salacious."

As a teacher of Latin and sometimes Greek, I'm most familiar with meaning #2, as in "an ithyphallic statue of Priapus".

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at January 16, 2022 03:42 PM (1+sgf)

541 P.S. Every Thursday is #phallusthursday on Twitter, if anyone wants to see what kind of ithyphallic statues and paintings the pervier classicists post. (I've always wondered why it's not #phallusfriday - more alliterative, and appropriate for end-of-the-work-week letting-off-of-steam. It was started by a @TraffordLj, a British woman working as a tour guide in Rome: she gets to see many of them in person.)

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at January 16, 2022 03:48 PM (1+sgf)

542 Our Lady of the Flowers
Jean Genet

Parents may wish
to protect youngsters from
this erotic book. I grew up
w/ open bookcases
&probably read,what I
shouldn't.

Posted by: zigzag at January 16, 2022 04:18 PM (T9H7+)

543 The Tin Drum
Gunter Grass

Amazing rollocking book,
I identify with every scene,
every character, in some
fashion. A Fiction book,
yet seems Truer-than-true.
Saw movie,when released
in Kibbutz Dining-Room.

Posted by: zigzag at January 16, 2022 04:27 PM (T9H7+)

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