Sunday Cooking Thread

Sunday Cooking Thread – 01/09/2022

Yeah, I know. It’s another Sunday in Buck’s kitchen when you were really hoping for a visit to CBD’s kitchen. It’s kind of like being told you’re going to your grandmother’s house for dinner, and you’re excited about roast beef, gravy, mashed potatoes, and ears of corn, but instead you’re going to the other grandmother’s house, where a typical meal is canned corn, canned peas, and that wheel of ham that comes in airtight plastic.

I apologize. But CBD will be back next week. Meanwhile, let’s try to have some fun.

So now that we’re in the bleak mid-winter, it is chili, gumbo, and crockpot season. I’ve made my first batch of chili this year, so next I need to make some…

GUMBO

I love seafood gumbo, as does my wife, but she gets nervous because I don’t have a set recipe, so there’s no guaranty that it will turn out the same each time. (I threw some flounder in once and it came out too fishy.) I kind of wing it every time. By contrast, she’s very much an exactly-by-the-recipe person in the kitchen.

While I confess that I use canned okra and roux-from-a-jar, the trinity of vegetables (onion, bell pepper, celery) is always fresh from the produce section, and the shrimp and oysters are from the meat case. If I can find frozen Louisiana crawfish, I’ll chuck them in too. (It will not surprise y’all that I will not use Chinese crawfish.) Good andouille can sometimes be hard to find, so I generally use Texas smoked sausage. And just how much file’ and spices do I add? I have no idea. I keep adding until it’s right.

RECIPE FOR AN OLD COMFORT FOOD

Have you ever had the good fortune of being provided a recipe to a dish you used to love but thought was gone? My wife had that good fortune recently, and I got to enjoy it.

There was a deli in a neighborhood we used to live in that had some made-from-scratch comfort foods that were quite popular. It closed down several years ago, but one of my wife’s old friends knows the owner, who gave her the Chicken Tetrazzini recipe, which she recently shared with my wife. As I mentioned, my wife is an exactly-by-the-recipe person. This recipe listed certain ingredients such as parmesan cheese and white wine, without specifying the volume. This unnerved her, of course. I recommended that she simply be aggressive with the cheese. As for the wine, I recommended that she drink while cooking, then add whatever wine she didn’t drink to the tetrazzini. It turned out great.

CZECH CHICKEN EGG DROP SOUP

Speaking of resurrecting old recipes – I am excited about having possibly discovered a recipe to an old family comfort food that had gone extinct in my family.

My grandmother was of Czech lineage, and she made some wonderful Czech foods and pastries. A staple was a soup that we all pronounced “kuh-PAWN-knee” which was a chicken soup, but instead of having noodles, it had a batter made of flour and eggs drizzled into it. There was no written recipe, so when she died, the recipe went with her. We didn’t even know how it was spelled. My siblings and I occasionally tried to search for the recipe under names such as “capony” or “kappony” but we never had any luck.

But now – I think I found it! At www.texasczechs.com/recipes. It looks like the soup we loved was chicken “capanka” soup. (“Capanka is a Czech term for a mixture of eggs and a little flour.”

I don’t really have any old laying hens that I can boil into soup, but I’ll still give this recipe a try using a regular store-bought chicken.

Do any of y’all carry on some Czech cooking traditions? Are any of you familiar with capanka?

And speaking of Czechs, Iowahawk once provided a helpful primer on the regional differences of Czech Americans.

• Texas has Moravian Czechs
• Nebraska has Bohemian Czechs
• Iowa has drunk Czechs
• Illinois has bounced Czechs

CORKSCREWS

Can I pscircle back to wine for a moment…specifically corkscrews? I prefer corkscrews with two arms that pull down after screwing the end into the cork. I have never mangled a cork with one of those. But I have definitely had some bad wine-opening experiences using those difficult corkscrews that restaurants use, where you have to wrestle the cork out.

Are those restaurant corkscrews actually better, but I just don’t know what I’m doing? Or is it another form-over-function thing, where the waiters have to put on a show with an inferior, but more pretentious tool?

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That’s it for this week. I’d be delighted to hear any stories y’all have of finding old recipes and/or resurrecting dishes you once loved but thought you’d never get to enjoy again.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 04:00 PM

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1 Food fight

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 04:01 PM (2JoB8)

2 Food thread!!!

Thank you Buck!

Posted by: Ladyl at January 09, 2022 04:03 PM (TdMsT)

3 That gumbo recipe...

Is that for chewing gumbo or bubble gumbo?

Posted by: Hereogar at January 09, 2022 04:03 PM (vxOXM)

4 Kuh-pawn-knee sounds American Indian
I miss Chicken Pot Pie, we use to make it often but haven't in many years.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 04:05 PM (2JoB8)

5 I like Czech beer. That is about all I know of the cuisine.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 09, 2022 04:05 PM (yQpMk)

6 Wait wait wait - you're going to tantalize us with tales of the best chicken tetrazinni ever and then not give us the recipe?

Wah!

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 04:05 PM (wyw4S)

7 Afternoon, Horde
Mrs IMG gave me a long list of ingredients and I am off to the grocer after my nap.

Ice cream and girly drinks are in my future.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 09, 2022 04:05 PM (8C7+r)

8 Boiled chicken tends to be a bit rubbery from my experience.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at January 09, 2022 04:06 PM (bVYXr)

9 Most of those restaurant ones disassemble and collapse into a marker sized thing that fits into the pen pocket on the apron.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2022 04:06 PM (hQ23g)

10 I used to make a mean chicken and dumplings, though I pretty much quit cooking after I got married.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 09, 2022 04:06 PM (yQpMk)

11 But thank you, Buck, for giving us a food thread, tetrazzini or no tetrazzini.

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 04:07 PM (wyw4S)

12 As for the wine, I recommended that she drink while cooking, then add whatever wine she didn't drink to the tetrazzini. It turned out great.

Well, Graham Kerr (the Galloping Gourmet) drank enough to enter the alcoholism zone, but he was right when it came to drinking in the kitchen. It's a lot easier to cook and get creative when you're loosened up.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 09, 2022 04:07 PM (ZSK0i)

13 I'm not cooking tonight. We ordered pizza from the usually excellent Neapolitan style pizza place... Covid has resulted in a definite decline in the quality of service and food. They have had no dine in service since the initial covid shut down and now I have started to notice a decline in everything else...Sad!

Posted by: lin-duh at January 09, 2022 04:08 PM (UUBmN)

14 Hey Buck, Never add file to your gumbo while cooking. File is added at the bowl to thicken to the desired consistency.

Posted by: Dino58 at January 09, 2022 04:09 PM (LVPff)

15 though I pretty much quit cooking after I got married.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 09, 2022 04:06 PM (yQpMk)

I pretty much quit cooking when I had to eat what i cooked!

Posted by: tbodie at January 09, 2022 04:09 PM (45Xak)

16 Covid has resulted in a definite decline in the quality of service and food.

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Small price to pay... Now get back in your fucking Metaverse pod and drink your Soylent. RIGHT now. I mean it.

Stee seef.

Posted by: Karen at January 09, 2022 04:11 PM (hQ23g)

17 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 09, 2022 04:11 PM (arJlL)

18 Wine openers that fit in a pocket are the criteria for waiters.

I use one that has an additional 'knee' in the opener portion. I really like it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2022 04:11 PM (TYbad)

19 and to add insult to injury, prices have also gone up.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 09, 2022 04:11 PM (UUBmN)

20 Non-holiday turkey dinner tonight (thanks to kids unplugging the freezer and forgetting to plug it back in - while everything was safe, well, it now needs to all be priority).

I find that regular turkey dinner is manageable and best when you have the turkey, the gravy, the filling carb, the sweet, and the sour. How you work that is based on how you want the timing to go and what's on sale and in season.

Tonight, the turkey and gravy will be with my dairy free mashed potatoes (the filling carb), honey ginger roasted beets and carrots (the sweet), and fresh sliced kiwi and clementines (the sour). Tomorrow, we'll have the leftovers with some other combo of the 3 (since we won't have any sides left)...

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 04:11 PM (exHjb)

21 Beat an egg in a bowl and mix in as much flour as it will take. Dip spoonfuls into simmering soup and you have dumplings. If you want to get fancy look up spaetzle recipes.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 04:13 PM (+ya+t)

22 More importantly with wine if you won't drink it don't put it in your food

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 04:13 PM (2JoB8)

23 Good afternoon everyone. Nice recipes!

My Nonna tried to teach me to cook her way but I was too "whatever, Grammi" at the time to listen and pay attention.

Luckily, one of my cousins noted well how N did her bread and let the rest of us know some years back.

I do have the other gramma's pie crust recipe and other family favorites from her. She was the one that said (for 20 years), after I'm dead, you'll want this - and wrote them all down for us.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 04:13 PM (mD/uy)

24 And Buck, I'm with you on corkscrews...I can't use the restaurant ones, either - even balance with 2 handles to press down for the win...

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 04:14 PM (exHjb)

25 Pizza!
I started heating the pizza oven 2hrs ago. It's to temp (900F+) now.
Guests will be over sometime I hope!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2022 04:14 PM (TYbad)

26 Bought quite a bit of stocking up items but little meat, 1 roast and small ham slice, spent $200 today.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 04:14 PM (2JoB8)

27 "I pretty much quit cooking when I had to eat what i cooked!"

When I was single, and cooking for myself, dinner was ready when the smoke alarm went off.

Posted by: boynsea at January 09, 2022 04:15 PM (sshap)

28 I have a good recipe for seafood gumbo

Step 1: Get vaccinated.
Step 2: There is no step 2 if you are not vaccinated
Step 3: If you are vaccinated, get boosted then go to a restaurant.

-Dr Wallensky.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2022 04:16 PM (F4b8f)

29 As for the wine, why doesn't one simply twist off the cap?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 04:16 PM (mD/uy)

30 I signed up for one of those meal delivery services for a year to learn how to cook. Learned the basic skills, then canceled.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2022 04:17 PM (hQ23g)

31 My wife complained about having to cook all the time, so I started to cook a few meals.
Now, she cooks all the time, but, not a peep out of her.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2022 04:17 PM (jTmQV)

32 As for the wine, why doesn't one simply twist off the cap?

Posted by: Tonypete

Arthritis... go with the boxed stuff!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2022 04:18 PM (TYbad)

33 I open my wine with a machete. It is the only acceptable old world way.

Which came first, the wine or the corkscrew?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2022 04:18 PM (F4b8f)

34 That gumbo recipe...
Is that for chewing gumbo or bubble gumbo?
Posted by: Hereogar

Chewing Gumbo, obviously. Bubble Gumbo is a shrimp company.

Posted by: mikeski at January 09, 2022 04:19 PM (P1f+c)

35 go with the boxed stuff!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Ooooooo! Aren't we fancy!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 04:19 PM (mD/uy)

36 I found a super easy recipe for Instant Pot Mississippi Pot Roast online:

Take a 2 1/2 -3 lb. boneless beef chuck roast, pat it dry and then season it all over with salt and pepper. Heat up a couple of tablespoons of canola or veg. oil using the saute function on the Instant Pot and then brown the roast, about 6 minutes on each side.

Take the roast out, add 1 1/2 c. beef broth to the pot and scrape up all the brown bits from the bottom. Stir in a package of ranch dressing seasoning mix (I also added a package of brown gravy mix and 4 cloves of minced garlic). Stir until it's all dissolved and then put the pot roast back in the pot. Sprinkle at least a half a cup of sliced pepperoncini on top and pouring in a bit of the juice from the pepperoncini won't hurt either.

Pressure cook on high for 55 minutes - then let it naturally release (don't do anything) for another 10 minutes. Then remove the lid (carefully) and shred the beef on a cutting board, discarding any large pieces of fat. Skim as much fat as possible from the gravy in the pot and put the meat back in the pot and mix it up.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 09, 2022 04:20 PM (HabA/)

37 I open my wine with a machete. It is the only acceptable old world way.

Which came first, the wine or the corkscrew?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Neither!
https://is.gd/uZsEHV

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2022 04:20 PM (TYbad)

38 "that wheel of ham that comes in airtight plastic."

We kids would always fight over who got to lick the plastic.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at January 09, 2022 04:21 PM (qpX6U)

39 I made some strawberry ice cream and some orange sorbet, they're phenomenal.

I'm having wings for dinner and after dinner, a cup of the sorbet with some bourbon.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 09, 2022 04:21 PM (lTtXP)

40 31 My wife complained about having to cook all the time, so I started to cook a few meals.
Now, she cooks all the time, but, not a peep out of her.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2022 04:17 PM (jTmQV)

Sounds like my house early in the marriage when my spouse got home before I did from work...I outlawed him within weeks b/c there was only so much hamburger helper I wanted to eat...

Not something I miss with my allergies now...

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 04:21 PM (exHjb)

41 It's not gumbo if it doesn't have okra in it.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 09, 2022 04:21 PM (Kv8Dk)

42 I love my waiters corkscrews.

Compact, robust, effective.

Every other type of wine bottle opener is suboptimal.

It is a real tool for real men.

Man up and learn to use it.

Posted by: SnakePlizzken at January 09, 2022 04:21 PM (WAXiw)

43 Which came first, the wine or the corkscrew?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Neither!
https://is.gd/uZsEHV
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

#1 son fancies himself quite the wine snob (wine cellar built into new house). He'd stroke out if I did this.

Hey.. . . Idea time!!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 04:22 PM (mD/uy)

44 OK I've been waiting all morning for this thread

Recently I got a new oven, so I tried making my favorite dessert- pecan pie. 2 Pies have turned out as disasters. The 1st was so dense it was almost (!) inedible. The 2nd was beautiful to look at, but inside was just a mess of goo. Totally runny.

I need a recipe that will work at 6000' above sea level.

Please help. I need this pie.

Posted by: DB at January 09, 2022 04:22 PM (geLO8)

45 you're going to the other grandmother's house, where a typical meal is canned corn, canned peas, and that wheel of ham that comes in airtight plastic.

Or you could go to the other-other grandmother's house (who reads this blog religiously, and where The Deplorable Gourmet reigns supreme), where, after three of her stirred-not-shaken Manhattans, you wouldn't care that all of that sh*t was sous-vided.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 09, 2022 04:23 PM (a3Q+t)

46 I actually got my gumbo recipe from a moron who provided a link a few years ago. It's very good. You make your own roux which is the hardest part. But it's delish.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at January 09, 2022 04:23 PM (nxdel)

47 When I was a kid my ma would send us for fresh bread when it was delivered at the store for her spaghetti sauce that cooked for hours. She'd cut the bread up and scold us with a smile for dipping into her sauce. When she died I found her hand written recipe and framed it. Brings back lots of good memories.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 04:23 PM (+ya+t)

48 For the Instant Pot Mississippi Recipe:

While the recipe called for serving it over mashed potatoes (I served it over mashed cauliflower) and that was good, it was great as a sandwich - on a hoagie roll with horseradish sauce. I hated to eat the last of it.

I recommend adding minced garlic and brown gravy mix and next time, I'll put in more pepperoncini.

Make it on a Sunday afternoon and you'll be set for sandwiches for a week.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 09, 2022 04:24 PM (HabA/)

49 I was given a Professional Screwpull as a gift, why use anything else?

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 04:24 PM (2JoB8)

50 Screw tops > artificial corks > natural corks

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 09, 2022 04:25 PM (a3Q+t)

51 Slow-simmered a ragu bolognese all day. It's so thick and luxurious. Got my semolina and egg dough ready, and will be cutting fettuccine. Perfect winter's Sunday meal.

Posted by: lizabth at January 09, 2022 04:26 PM (L3Rsz)

52 DB, try this for starters:

King Arthur notes
https://is.gd/FxZl70

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 04:26 PM (mD/uy)

53 I made Gumbo on Friday, barely any leftovers remain.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at January 09, 2022 04:28 PM (1kZuj)

54 "I was given a Professional Screwpull as a gift"

I gave all my screwpulls away.

Posted by: A Lawyer at January 09, 2022 04:28 PM (vrz2I)

55 Slow-simmered a ragu bolognese all day. It's so thick and luxurious. Got my semolina and egg dough ready, and will be cutting fettuccine. Perfect winter's Sunday meal.

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Try "Kay's Different Bolognese." You'll never look at old school Bolognese 1.0 the same again.

https://youtu.be/zNto-3DvDpw

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2022 04:29 PM (hQ23g)

56 Minor point of order... if you ain't making roux from scratch, you ain't making gumbo.

You're making Cajun flavored stew. From a jar.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2022 04:29 PM (BFigT)

57 If anyone happens to be in central NJ on the first Sunday of the month and doesnt mind coming to church, we have our church luncheon . Well we had it today because things were busy last week. We had turkey and gravy, kielbasa and onions, vegetable soup, regular and gluten free ziti
Soup, deviled eggs, and home made cookies and cake. We have enough for three times as many people and they send the leftovers home with me. I have no room in my .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2022 04:29 PM (qg6IH)

58 lizabth could be over with a nice bottle and my Professional Screwpull

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 04:30 PM (2JoB8)

59 The dad from Duck Dynasty once gave a podcast on the subject of his favorite gumbo recipe, which he recited on the podcast.
It was very funny because the recipe is for about 200 people, his church congregation.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2022 04:30 PM (jTmQV)

60 It's a crockpot day here. I'm doing venison backstrap in the slow cooker, seasoned with a bit of rub, and with carrots and parsnips and potatoes. I just canned a bunch of winter squash, so I might make some candied butternut as a side dish. I'm lookin' forward to dinner!

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at January 09, 2022 04:30 PM (lNHqD)

61 Meant " No room in my fridge."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2022 04:30 PM (qg6IH)

62 https://youtu.be/zNto-3DvDpw
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Just glancing at this briefly, I think you are quite correct.

Posted by: lizabth at January 09, 2022 04:31 PM (L3Rsz)

63 We kids would always fight over who got to lick the plastic.
Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at January 09, 2022 04:21 PM (qpX6U)

Luxury!!

Posted by: Yorkshire Man #3 at January 09, 2022 04:31 PM (ZSK0i)

64 WW went to ALDI this week for groceries so I'll having Pasta Rings instead of Spaghettios.

Posted by: Weasel at January 09, 2022 04:31 PM (0IeYL)

65 lizabth could be over with a nice bottle and my Professional Screwpull
Posted by: Skip

Bring some of common tater's bread he was talking about early this morning. I still have some tiramisu cake left for afters.

Posted by: lizabth at January 09, 2022 04:32 PM (L3Rsz)

66 My corkscrew has a hook that rides on the edge of the bottle. Once it's screwed in, push down and you're in bidness.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 04:32 PM (+ya+t)

67 Fen, don't you have a teenage boy who can help with the problem of a crowded fridge?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 09, 2022 04:33 PM (llON8)

68

I am Czech on my dad's side, but he basically left most of the cooking to my Polish mom, including the making of chicken soup. She made wonderful thick homemade noodles, but called them Kluski noodles. You can buy them in the store, but they're not anything near as good as homemade.

The one food we had that I think of as specifically Czech was kolaches, warm rolls filled with apricot or plum or strawberry filling - which we always had on Christmas Eve.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 09, 2022 04:33 PM (HabA/)

69 Buck my mom and grandma made a dumpling that was nothing but flour, water and a bit of salt. They cut off small pieces with a spoon and boiled them in just water. Kind of a sickly gray color, however sauteed with onion and bacon they were divine. My ancestors are Polish.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 09, 2022 04:33 PM (2NHgQ)

70 My Grandma made Poonchkas (spelled something like pazcki) a wondefrul Polish pastry something like a Bismark. This was a deep fried ball of dough, rolled in sugar and sometimes stuffed with jam. The dough was a bit more bread-like than other pastry doughs.

Well, Grandma left the recipe after she died, but no one in our family was ever able to duplicate it. Then my sister, a righteous baker herself, came across a pastry recipe that called for adding a shot of vodka or brandy to the dough to make the flour combine better with the water.

No one knows why Grandma left the alcohol out of her written recipe, but luckily our family has its beloved Poonchkas (or however the heck you spell it) back.

Posted by: Fritzy at January 09, 2022 04:33 PM (VY+MJ)

71 As it happens, I'm making chili right now. Despite being half-Texan I do put beans and tomatoes in.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 04:33 PM (QZxDR)

72
#1 son fancies himself quite the wine snob (wine cellar built into new house). He'd stroke out if I did this.

Hey.. . . Idea time!!
Posted by: Tonypete

Share the wine at a MoMe!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2022 04:34 PM (TYbad)

73 Soup is a waste of chicken. Try "Jack's Buttermilk Chicken" instead. You'll never look at old school Chicken 1.0 the same again:

https://youtu.be/IchzyDuIa3M

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2022 04:35 PM (hQ23g)

74 Regarding corkscrews, you might like to try a Pulltex corkscrew. (Like tinyurl.com/b39n6v4u , but they have many models.)

The lever has two notches that go against the rim of the bottle. The one closest to the hinge gives a lot of leverage, to get the first 1/2" to 3/4" of the cork out. Then you switch to the notch at the end to finish opening the bottle.

The screw is teflon coated, so it goes through the cork pretty smoothly. I tend to start to screw it into the cork with the screw at right angles to the cork, with the tip pointing straight down, being careful to get it in the center of the cork. Then as I make the first turn, I lift it up to be parallel with the cork. For me, that seems to ensure the screw is going right down the center of the cork to reduce the chance of breakage.

Posted by: pincorrect at January 09, 2022 04:36 PM (Se/Bz)

75 Kind of a sickly gray color, however sauteed with onion and bacon they were divine. My ancestors are Polish.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 09, 2022 04:33 PM (2NHgQ)

Onions and bacon - the way to make anything taste delicious...

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 04:36 PM (exHjb)

76 Donna of the ampersands. Yep, kluski noodles. The closest I've found are the Reames frozen egg noodles. I remember sitting on the front porch on Good Friday starting at noon observing the 3 hours of silence. Grandma bribed me to behave with a bowl of kluski noodles. Yummy!

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 09, 2022 04:36 PM (2NHgQ)

77 As it happens, I'm making chili right now. Despite being half-Texan I do put beans and tomatoes in.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 04:33 PM

I recently won a chili cook off in Texas with both kidney and pinto beans in my chili.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at January 09, 2022 04:37 PM (bVYXr)

78 I recently won a chili cook off in Texas with both kidney and pinto beans in my chili.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at January 09, 2022 04:37 PM

No carrots though.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at January 09, 2022 04:37 PM (bVYXr)

79 And I've still got some gumbo left over from New Year's. I made stock from the Christmas bird, found okra at the grocery, and put in shrimp and canned crabmeat.

No need for roux and okra at the same time. Pick one.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 04:37 PM (QZxDR)

80 My friends mom was Czech and she would make a roast pork with dumplings and cabbage thing around the holidays. The meat was so tender it melted in your mouth.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2022 04:37 PM (BFigT)

81 No one knows why Grandma left the alcohol out of her written recipe, but luckily our family has its beloved Poonchkas (or however the heck you spell it) back.
Posted by: Fritzy

If your family was like mine, the booze addition was understood and never needed to be called out.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 04:37 PM (mD/uy)

82 No one knows why Grandma left the alcohol out of her written recipe, but luckily our family has its beloved Poonchkas (or however the heck you spell it) back.
Posted by: Fritzy

I see these in the grocery before Easter. Sound delish!

Posted by: lizabth at January 09, 2022 04:38 PM (L3Rsz)

83 Now I'm hungry and just an hour after lunch. Good thing I have a chocolate cake. Not as good as mom's made with Pepsi, but still not bad.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 09, 2022 04:38 PM (2NHgQ)

84 Nasty icy day here in New England. A good day to stay inside and make chili. The only better way to spend it would be to go someplace warmer.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 04:38 PM (QZxDR)

85 Professional Screwpull
https://tinyurl.com/mt2n4f37
Worked at the woman's house for a year who gave it to me

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 04:39 PM (2JoB8)

86 Made soup. I recipe I made up yrs ago.

Chicken sausage browned in olive oil w/ minced garlic. Add white beans (cannellini or Great Northern), chicken stock, mushrooms, and a green leafy veg (used rapini today, spinach works but gets slimy when it's leftover)

Ladle over cooked pasta & top with shredded asiago.

serve with crusty bread

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 09, 2022 04:39 PM (sJHOI)

87 The one food we had that I think of as specifically Czech was kolaches, warm rolls filled with apricot or plum or strawberry filling - which we always had on Christmas Eve.
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Love those things. They come with every meal in the Czech restaurants here. Accent cracks me up when the waitress says boppy seed.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 04:39 PM (+ya+t)

88 Now I'm hungry and just an hour after lunch.

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Go check out Jack's Buttermilk Chicken... Skip to the part where he samples his handiwork. You won't be hungry for at least a day.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2022 04:40 PM (hQ23g)

89 K-Paul's Kitchen, a New Orleans favorite (are they still in business? Dunno.) used to print all their recipes on paper tablecloths. You were welcome to tear one or more recipes out. The ex still uses the chicken and andouille gumbo recipe, though she adds seafood too.

https://www.kpauls.com/
k-pauls-dill-vinaigrette-dressing/

*scroll down a bit for the gumbo recipe, it's a pdf. Yum.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 09, 2022 04:41 PM (F0YaR)

90 Years ago, the XO gave his mother, an incredible make everything from scratch cook, one of those under the cabinet recipe card holders. When she moved from the apartment to an assisted living unit, the card holder got forgotten. By the time we realized it had been forgotten, it was way too late to retrieve it. The whole Sabin family is still whining and moaning over its loss.

My bookstore was next to the Omaha Bohemian Cafe. (They were my landlords.) I always wondered about how their egg drop soup was made. Thanks for the recipe, Buck. Ill hand it on to the rest of the family.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- bitterly clinging to the deplorable life '70s style! at January 09, 2022 04:42 PM (N86eO)

91 67- Helena, well, he did come to church and the lunch and will be hungry again in about an hour so that helps. Honestly, I need to clean my fridge again. I hate that chore. It's nice when it's done but I tend to put it off.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2022 04:42 PM (q4Uj4)

92 I think K-Paul's is still around, but Paul Prudhomme died a while back, so I suspect they're just coasting on reputation.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 04:43 PM (QZxDR)

93 >> Wait wait wait - you're going to tantalize us with tales of the best chicken tetrazinni ever and then not give us the recipe?

Right?
Reminds me of when my brother worked as a cook at my favorite hometown restaurant (he was such a terrible waiter the owner took pity on him and moved him to the kitchen), and he smuggled out their famous carrot cake recipe. Except the recipe makes about 5 cakes? I have never tried it. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at January 09, 2022 04:44 PM (URNdm)

94 What do y'all like to have with chili?

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 04:44 PM (QZxDR)

95 Central Texas has more Czechs than any place outside of the Czech Republic.

The cemeteries in Central Texas are full of names like Skrz.

Texas needs a vowel drop. Please contribute. The Germans of South Texas have not been helpful.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at January 09, 2022 04:45 PM (QQ6wR)

96 94 What do y'all like to have with chili?
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 04:44 PM (QZxDR)

My favorite is serving spicy chili right over a honey-based cornbread - but I'm a sucker for a sweet/spicy combo...

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 04:46 PM (exHjb)

97 Well, that pasta isn't gonna cut itself, so I am out. Enjoy your eats, folks!

Posted by: lizabth at January 09, 2022 04:47 PM (L3Rsz)

98 Would love to have the recipe to my Aunts Irish Soda bread. It had raisins in it and was delicious toasted with melted butter.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 09, 2022 04:48 PM (mcfjc)

99 Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 09, 2022 04:36 PM (2NHgQ)

Yes - you could have bribed me with kluski noodles too.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 09, 2022 04:50 PM (HabA/)

100 46 -- #1 son cooked in a Cajun restaurant for a couple of years. He baked his roux. I don't know what the proportions or the temp, but he claims it works like a charm.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- bitterly clinging to the deplorable life '70s style! at January 09, 2022 04:50 PM (N86eO)

101 Whelp... wife is having an "Asian" salad tonight so I'll sear a tuna steak, rare, and have some of this "Asian" salad with her.

It's either that or get the stink eye all night....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2022 04:50 PM (BFigT)

102 55
Try "Kay's Different Bolognese." You'll never look at old school Bolognese 1.0 the same again.

https://youtu.be/zNto-3DvDpw
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2022 04:29 PM

People in Bologna are slashing their wrists. This bears no resemblance to Spaghetti Bolognese.

Posted by: jix at January 09, 2022 04:50 PM (DU7iZ)

103 95 Central Texas has more Czechs than any place outside of the Czech Republic.

The cemeteries in Central Texas are full of names like Skrz.

Texas needs a vowel drop. Please contribute. The Germans of South Texas have not been helpful.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at January 09, 2022 04:45 PM (QQ6wR)

Need more Eye-talians. They got vowels falling off the trees in Italy.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 09, 2022 04:51 PM (HabA/)

104 101 Whelp... wife is having an "Asian" salad tonight so I'll sear a tuna steak, rare, and have some of this "Asian" salad with her.

It's either that or get the stink eye all night....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2022 04:50 PM (BFigT)

Your wife has good taste...and you have better taste with adding the tuna!

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 04:51 PM (exHjb)

105 My cooking experiment today was making dog biscuits. My pup isn't a particularly picky eater, but she's not an "I'll eat anything" dog either. These were a huge hit. If you make them, the dough is very stiff, so use a sturdy mixer if you have one.

Here's the recipe: https://tinyurl.com/4vhpj6fc

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 09, 2022 04:51 PM (fTtFy)

106 Cornbread, modern hardtack ( saltines) or tortilla chips all go with chili

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 04:52 PM (2JoB8)

107 I love using old laying hens for stock. More flavor. But mine didn't get tender until like 12 hours of simmering.

Posted by: Splunge at January 09, 2022 04:52 PM (PQ4Fz)

108 5 carrot cakes? If you share the recipe, Lizzy, I will try it. For science. And give away 4 of the cakes. Well, 3. I will give away 3 of the cakes.

Posted by: pincorrect at January 09, 2022 04:53 PM (Se/Bz)

109 I've tried copying from a Czech restaurant near here they call pork blades. I think it's just pork shoulder because it has that weird bone in it. Maybe what's left over from trimming the primo cuts from it? Came close but not quite it.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 04:53 PM (+ya+t)

110 What do y'all like to have with chili?
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 04:44 PM (QZxDR)

beer and more beer

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2022 04:54 PM (TYbad)

111 wife is having an "Asian" salad tonight so I'll sear a tuna steak, rare, and have some of this "Asian" salad with her.

It's either that or get the stink eye all night....
Posted by: Martini Farmer

MF, where's the sweet spot for you with the searing? One minute per side?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 04:54 PM (mD/uy)

112 Chedder cheese, onions, Hot sauce & oyster crackers all go with chili

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 09, 2022 04:54 PM (sJHOI)

113 I never realized there were a lot of Czechs in Texas. It's not exactly rare in SE Wisconsin, but we're outnumbered by the Slovaks. And the Poles outnumber the Slovaks.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 09, 2022 04:54 PM (HabA/)

114 >>5 carrot cakes? If you share the recipe, Lizzy, I will try it. For science. And give away 4 of the cakes. Well, 3. I will give away 3 of the cakes.

Hmm, I have to figure out where it is - in a box somewhere. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at January 09, 2022 04:56 PM (URNdm)

115 Corkscrews: The one I use most often is has the teflon screw, a heavy metal handle, and a plastic thingy that sits on top of the bottle. A waiter's friend (pocket corkscrew) is OK, but I strongly prefer the ones that have two little ledges, for extracting long corks.

If you have a cellar, and open old bottles, the Durand is insanely overpriced, but essential. I guess they must have good patents, because I haven't seen any knockoffs. It combines that Ah-so style with the two prongs, with a screw. That keeps crumbling corks together, like the Ah-so, but the screw keeps the cork from being pushed into the bottle, like I do about 1/3 of the time with an Ah-so.

Posted by: Splunge at January 09, 2022 04:56 PM (PQ4Fz)

116 Grape jelly is good in chili.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2022 04:57 PM (F4b8f)

117 Liver dumpling soup is something I want to try sometime.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 04:59 PM (+ya+t)

118 Beer, check. Cheese, check. Cornbread, check. Chips, check.

Grape jelly? If I catch you trying to sneak into my kitchen there will be violence.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 04:59 PM (QZxDR)

119 Liking those two-handle corkscrews lasts until the first time one rips the center out of a fragile cork, leaving it looking like you drilled a nice hole through the center. Fixing that is seriously not fun.

Posted by: Splunge at January 09, 2022 05:00 PM (PQ4Fz)

120 Chili accompaniments: dollop of sour cream, shredded cheddar, cornbread or biscuits or tortilla chips. And for leftovers, spoon it over a baked potato or fries w/melted cheese

Posted by: Lizzy at January 09, 2022 05:00 PM (URNdm)

121 > where's the sweet spot for you with the searing? One minute per side?

Sorta' depends on the oil... but tonight it'll be sesame oil and about 90 - 120 seconds a side. Small skillet, electric stove, so not very hot. Stays pink/red inside, but warm.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2022 05:00 PM (BFigT)

122 Go check out Jack's Buttermilk Chicken... Skip to the part where he samples his handiwork. You won't be hungry for at least a day.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Interesting diet strategy.

Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 05:01 PM (qpolg)

123 Okra in Gumbo is only used East of Lafayette.

It's a good way to ruin Gumbo for me.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter. at January 09, 2022 05:02 PM (bDzJM)

124 Soup, deviled eggs, and home made cookies and cake. We have enough for three times as many people and they send the leftovers home with me. I have no room in my .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Paragraph ?

Posted by: JT at January 09, 2022 05:02 PM (arJlL)

125 Honestly, I need to clean my fridge again. I hate that chore. It's nice when it's done but I tend to put it off.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2022 04:42 PM (q4Uj4)
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I hear you. I aim to do it every week which means I do it every 2 or 3 weeks. When I do get around to it though, I can usually think of something to do with the stuff that needs to be used up. And surprisingly, those are some of my husband's favorite meals.

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 05:02 PM (wyw4S)

126 Dad made excellent chili. I am the one person in the family who hates beans of any kind. Dad would make his chili, take out a huge bowl for me and then add the beans for everyone else, I sure miss him.

Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 05:04 PM (qpolg)

127 Chili accompaniments: dollop of sour cream, shredded cheddar, cornbread or biscuits or tortilla chips. And for leftovers, spoon it over a baked potato or fries w/melted cheese
Posted by: Lizzy at January 09, 2022 05:00 PM (URNdm)
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Yes to all but another good use for leftovers is a chili omelet topped with cheddar and sour cream.

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 05:04 PM (wyw4S)

128 C.A.T just put the grape gelly on after the carrots

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 05:05 PM (2JoB8)

129 Big apartment fire in the Bronx. Killed 19. Gov Youngkin silent and absent as is normal for his term.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2022 05:05 PM (F4b8f)

130 >>Yes to all but another good use for leftovers is a chili omelet topped with cheddar and sour cream.

Huh, never tried that!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 09, 2022 05:05 PM (URNdm)

131 Seriously, my italian grandmother made spaghetti sauce and the recipe involved grape jelly.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2022 05:06 PM (F4b8f)

132 I found that the screw pull corkscrew works best. As you twist the corkscrew in a ring presses against the lip. Keep screwing and it pulls the cork straight up and out. No levers or such. Very simple, but I read somewhere that it is a very recent innovation.

Posted by: Elric at January 09, 2022 05:07 PM (oSDkQ)

133 No one knows why Grandma left the alcohol out of her written recipe, but luckily our family has its beloved Poonchkas (or however the heck you spell it) back.
Posted by: Fritzy

I see these in the grocery before Easter. Sound delish!
Posted by: lizabth

Raises hand...

Okay.

WTF is a Poonchkas ?

Posted by: JT at January 09, 2022 05:07 PM (arJlL)

134 Lizzy, I wouldn't have thought of it except my husband ordered it in a restaurant in Kansas once. Huge hit with him.

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 05:07 PM (wyw4S)

135 Food Thread oxymoron = Leftover Chili.
Burp.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2022 05:07 PM (TYbad)

136 Buck,

I think the best way to judge a corkscrew is whether it is solid. The solid ones are cheaper to make but don't grab the cork...they just drive a hole through it. The better corkscrews look like they have been wound around a core...that way they grab the cork without chewing it up.

And everything else is just leverage.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 05:07 PM (Q9lwr)

137 The Czech soup noodles sound like Hungarian nokedli which are made from a dough of
2 Cups (272 g) Flour, All-Purpose
2 Whole Eggs, Beaten
1/2 Tsp (3 g) Salt
3/4 Cup (177 ml) Water, Warm
1 Tbs (15 g) Butter, Melted
All mixed up and dropped in random little blobs into boiling water.

Posted by: MammaB at January 09, 2022 05:08 PM (PglAP)

138 Still learning how not to cook more than I can eat. Chili sounds good.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 05:08 PM (+ya+t)

139 124 Soup, deviled eggs, and home made cookies and cake. We have enough for three times as many people and they send the leftovers home with me. I have no room in my .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Paragraph ?
Posted by: JT at January 09, 2022 05:02 PM (arJlL)

If you can't fit the eggs in the fridge as is, just chop them all down into a "leftovers" egg salad...way less space needed...

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 05:09 PM (exHjb)

140 I aim to do it every week which means I do it every 2 or 3 weeks.

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 05:02 PM (wyw4S)

Or one or two 20-somethings.

They can clean out a refrigerator pretty impressively and quickly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 05:09 PM (Q9lwr)

141 Seriously, my italian grandmother made spaghetti sauce and the recipe involved grape jelly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2022 05:06 PM (F4b8f)
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I know there's a 60s-era recipe floating around for meatball appetizers and the sauce is made with grape jelly and chili sauce. Stephen Price Blair would probably have it in one of his old cookbooks.

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 05:10 PM (wyw4S)

142 I am very cranky and want some attention, so please look at me try to derail the food discussion!

Posted by: Epsinostifer at January 09, 2022 05:10 PM (Uzh5E)

143 Spent all day and night Thursday and Friday cooking stroganoff with noodles, stuffed cabbage, chicken parm, tortellini with vodka sauce, crab-stuffed flounder, roasted potatoes, green beans almondine for yesterday's Post Christmas Bingo Re-Gifting Party. The holidays are officially over now and I won't have to cook again for at least a week. Yay!

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 05:11 PM (0TVNF)

144 Illinois has bounced Czechs

Indiana has Chetnik halls.

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2022 05:11 PM (FhXTo)

145 I mentioned on the book thread that I splurged on cookbooks this week: the latest Kevin Belton, "Cookin' Louisiana", and both cookbooks by Cowboy Kent Rollins. I am more persnickety about buying cookbooks these days but glad I got these. I've been enjoying the Belton show on PBS and the Kent Rollins videos on YT. They both have great recipes made with easily available ingredients and both are big advocates for cast iron cookware. Just thumbing through I've found a bunch of recipes I want to try.

The books are entertaining as well as informative, written in a readable, conversational style. And Rollins has some of the best advice I've seen for restoring, maintaining, and using cast iron.

As I try the recipes I'll let the Horde know how they go. I'm curious how well they will turn out.

Finally, I found out that Rollins' chuck wagon is a restored 1870s Studebaker. Never knew Studebaker was the biggest wagon maker of the 19th century, long before they got into automobiles.

Posted by: JTB at January 09, 2022 05:11 PM (7EjX1)

146 84 Nasty icy day here in New England. A good day to stay inside and make chili. The only better way to spend it would be to go someplace warmer.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 04:38 PM (QZxDR)

Upper Mid-Atalntic/Northeast as well, and whipped up a batch of Chili that is still simmering.

With that, I'd like to open up about a controversial ingredient that I always add to my chili, and NO, I'm not talking beans/no beans controversial.

We used to throw a small scoop of sugar into our chili to cut the acid from the tomatoes, but in recent years (past 5 or so), we come up with something else that really makes a difference...4-6 squares of a good DARK CHOCOLATE (70% cocoa or more). I have to tell you that it both cuts the tomato acod and adds both a great flavor and great mouth feel (due to the cocoa butter).

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at January 09, 2022 05:11 PM (DkHo+)

147 They can clean out a refrigerator pretty impressively and quickly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 05:09 PM (Q9lwr)
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You don't have to tell me. That's why I call my son and his friends The Locusts. When they are home from college all of us moms in the 'hood make sure we are stocked up.

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 05:11 PM (wyw4S)

148 u mean Paczki?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 09, 2022 05:12 PM (sJHOI)

149 Who's wielding the banhammer?

Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 05:12 PM (qpolg)

150 Do you know how weekends work around this blog? Come back tomorrow for news and politics posts. Better yet, you can always go check out HotAir.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2022 05:12 PM (hQ23g)

151 Posted by: Epsinostifer at January 09, 2022 05:10 PM (Uzh5E)

You seem nice

Posted by: fluffy at January 09, 2022 05:13 PM (UnQlg)

152
Or is it another form-over-function thing, where the waiters have to put on a show with an inferior, but more pretentious tool?

I remember when I was a wee lad of about 22 and the pretentious waiter put on the show of struggling with the cork then handing it to me. I placed it to my lip (thank Gawd I knew what to do) and it was dry as a bone. He then proceeded to pour the required tiny amount into my glass. I took a sniff. Vinegar. Then tasted a tiny bit of the wine. Vinegar. Told him it was no good.

I wasn't showing off for my date. It was nasty. The next bottle was fine. I was actually one of those guys who really read the articles in Playboy so I didn't embarrass myself.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 09, 2022 05:13 PM (dQvv7)

153 Note to Horde: do not absentmindedly roast parsnips at 400F, at least not for 35 minutes....

Posted by: SFGoth at January 09, 2022 05:13 PM (KAi1n)

154 Spent all day and night Thursday and Friday cooking stroganoff with noodles, stuffed cabbage, chicken parm, tortellini with vodka sauce, crab-stuffed flounder, roasted potatoes, green beans almondine for yesterday's Post Christmas Bingo Re-Gifting Party. The holidays are officially over now and I won't have to cook again for at least a week. Yay!
Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 05:11 PM (0TVNF
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Holy cow. I guess my invitation got lost in the mail!

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 05:13 PM (wyw4S)

155 I'm with Snake.

The waiters tool corkscrew is simple and effective. Better feel for removing troublesome bungs. Nothing to break or fail, no balancing (!) needed.

When used properly, you don't have to be Hercules to use one, either.

Posted by: West at January 09, 2022 05:14 PM (QY+6a)

156 Corkscrews: I only use the pull down on the two arm version. Every other type has led to pieces of cork all over the place. Since I not a wine expert, I'm just as happy with screw off caps.

Posted by: JTB at January 09, 2022 05:15 PM (7EjX1)

157 I want to run away from home and be a boarder with some of you folks. I made chicken fried cod last night. It came out pretty good. Made Idahoan hash browns and some veggies to go with it.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 09, 2022 05:15 PM (3cGpq)

158 >>4-6 squares of a good DARK CHOCOLATE (70% cocoa or more). I have to tell you that it both cuts the tomato acod and adds both a great flavor and great mouth feel (due to the cocoa butter).

Interesting!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 09, 2022 05:15 PM (URNdm)

159 CBD! how are you feeling? I tested positive this morning. Yay, me.

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 09, 2022 05:15 PM (C1NyB)

160 We used to throw a small scoop of sugar into our chili to cut the acid from the tomatoes, but in recent years (past 5 or so), we come up with something else that really makes a difference...4-6 squares of a good DARK CHOCOLATE (70% cocoa or more). I have to tell you that it both cuts the tomato acod and adds both a great flavor and great mouth feel (due to the cocoa butter).

-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at January 09, 2022 05:11 PM (DkHo+)
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Ooh la la! Just made chili yesterday with 6 pounds of meat so won't be making it for a bit, but that sounds delicious! Chocolate is my love language.

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 05:15 PM (wyw4S)

161 I cook Gumbo from an Allrecipes.com recipe. Making the roux is easy. Just pull up a chair to the stove so you can sit comfortably while stirring in to the milk chocolate color.

Fresh okra is not hard to find here in SC.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 09, 2022 05:15 PM (rDgjh)

162 So, these roasted beets are the bomb - I've never actually done the ginger honey salt route with them and carrots, but they work on their own and they are great with the turkey...

Note to self - when it's an icy day, turkey dinner is a good option. Maybe the kids unplugged the freezer on purpose (well, they did looking for a charger for their phone, although I don't think they had this much foresight)...

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 05:16 PM (exHjb)

163 I know there's a 60s-era recipe floating around for meatball appetizers and the sauce is made with grape jelly and chili sauce.
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Buddy's wife made those little hotdogs in a grape jelly sauce for parties.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 05:16 PM (+ya+t)

164 Recent cooking projects: Cantonese roast duck, steamed pork hash with salt fish.

Next cooking project: Oxtail stew. Just picked up the 9 lbs of beautiful oxtail I ordered.

While I was at the butcher, I bought a ham. I had made my version of deviled ham (Colman's mustard, vinegar, Habanero hot sauce, mayo) with the Christmas ham, and I've been missing it since it ran out. So I'm gonna make more.

Posted by: Splunge at January 09, 2022 05:16 PM (PQ4Fz)

165 131 Seriously, my italian grandmother made spaghetti sauce and the recipe involved grape jelly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2022 05:06 PM (F4b8f)

well, grape jelly has a whole lot of sugar in it and most good Sunday gravys have a certain amount of sugar in them to counteract the acid from the maters

so I could imagine it

Posted by: REDACTED at January 09, 2022 05:16 PM (us2H3)

166 The chocolate would give the chili kind of a mole taste.

Not the rodent.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 09, 2022 05:17 PM (0RFU7)

167 Dad always put a bit of sugar in his red gravy.

Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 05:17 PM (qpolg)

168 Texas needs a vowel drop. Please contribute. The Germans of South Texas have not been helpful.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at January 09, 2022 04:45 PM

Mae'n ddrwg gennym, ni allwn eich helpu.

Posted by: Cymru Moronau at January 09, 2022 05:17 PM (a3Q+t)

169 >>> Ooh la la! Just made chili yesterday with 6 pounds of meat so won't be making it for a bit, but that sounds delicious! Chocolate is my love language.

Chili infused chocolate is great stuff. Lindt, iirc, is fantastic. I have had other brands that aren't so good, but I won't turn it down.

Posted by: fluffy at January 09, 2022 05:18 PM (UnQlg)

170 In the Nero Wolfe books, Archie is always mentioning the grand dishes that Wolfe's cook, Fritz, made for him. Most of them sound good, but one of them is squirrel stew.

Was that normal at some point?

Posted by: Splunge at January 09, 2022 05:19 PM (PQ4Fz)

171 I tested positive this morning. Yay, me.

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 09, 2022 05:15 PM (C1NyB)

Well...shit! Take care of yourself.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 05:19 PM (Q9lwr)

172 you're going to the other grandmother's house,

Add in 400 mile drive to only occasionally sample.

Come to think of it Pitt water vs Chicago water may explain why Mom's apple cake was never quite as good as Dad's Moms. Despite literally watching and writing recipe.

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2022 05:20 PM (FhXTo)

173 166 The chocolate would give the chili kind of a mole taste.

Not the rodent.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 09, 2022 05:17 PM (0RFU7)

Which is actually where I got the idea. I was thinking, if it's good in a mole, why not try it in the chili!

Note: don't use milk chocolate, you really want a high % cocoa. Today's batch was made with a 78% cocoa dark chocolate.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at January 09, 2022 05:20 PM (DkHo+)

174 In the Nero Wolfe books, Archie is always mentioning the grand dishes that Wolfe's cook, Fritz, made for him. Most of them sound good, but one of them is squirrel stew.

Was that normal at some point?
Posted by: Splunge

Yes.

Posted by: Daniel Boone at January 09, 2022 05:20 PM (qpolg)

175 >>> Holy cow. I guess my invitation got lost in the mail!
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Uh yeah, sorry, it must have.

How's things, bluebell?

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 05:21 PM (0TVNF)

176 The absolute best corkscrews are the kind waiters and bartenders use: the simple lever w/corkscrew. Almost all but the cheapest versions of these have a small serrated blade folded away to cut the foil or plastic neck seal. I have never been stopped by a cork, or broken a cork using one of these. Occasionally I have had to re-set the screw, but I have gotten gnarly, corked bottles open with one of these, too.
Cheap and portable.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 09, 2022 05:22 PM (7Fj9P)

177 CBD was wondering did you lose sense of taste/ smell and getting over still have loss of?

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 05:22 PM (2JoB8)

178 I'm thinking about putting some chocolate covered carrots in my next chili

Posted by: REDACTED at January 09, 2022 05:22 PM (us2H3)

179 How's things, bluebell?
Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 05:21 PM (0TVNF)
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Things are good! Last out of town kid left today, college kid will be home one more week. Have to do all the undecorating in the next few days.

How about you?

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 05:23 PM (wyw4S)

180 123 Okra in Gumbo is only used East of Lafayette.

It's a good way to ruin Gumbo for me.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter. at January 09, 2022 05:02 PM (bDzJM)

Interesting and fun fact - in West African dialects, the word "Gumbo" mean "Okra". In traditional Loozyanna cooking, okra was used as the thickening agent when it was in season, and file' (fee-lay) was used when okra wasn't in season.

I love okra, btw. Key to making a good gumbo is to learn to make a good, dark roux first. Well that's key to most all cajun cooking.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 09, 2022 05:23 PM (evAgx)

181 170 In the Nero Wolfe books, Archie is always mentioning the grand dishes that Wolfe's cook, Fritz, made for him. Most of them sound good, but one of them is squirrel stew.

Was that normal at some point?
Posted by: Splunge at January 09, 2022 05:19 PM (PQ4Fz)

Coming from the Midwest where I used to go squirrel hunting evenings after HS, then YES, squirrel stew is normal.....

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at January 09, 2022 05:23 PM (DkHo+)

182 Well...shit! Take care of yourself.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 05:19 PM (Q9lwr)

Workin on it. Symptoms are pretty mild, so it's fluids, fluids, fluids. And Tylenol. Boss was great: texted him a pick of my home test, and he answered back, "See you in 5 days after your last symptom goes away." Company covering time off. I'm pretty lucky.

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 09, 2022 05:23 PM (C1NyB)

183 Was that normal at some point?
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Burgoo?

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 05:24 PM (+ya+t)

184 has anyone ever tried chicken in milk? Stumbled on a recipe and wondered if it was any good.

Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 05:25 PM (qpolg)

185 Greetings:

Soup sandwich and a glass of steam ???

Posted by: 11B40 at January 09, 2022 05:25 PM (uuklp)

186 Thick Spaghetti chili floor.

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2022 05:26 PM (FhXTo)

187 Hi, JT!

I suspect a lot of Eastern European cooking is similar, with with different names being given to things like egg noodles.

My dad made a wonderful goulash and I have never been able to replicate it because I never wrote down exactly how he made it.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 09, 2022 05:27 PM (HabA/)

188 Nearly every Australian wine is sold with a metal closure so no corkscrews needed so no bad corks and no ruined wine.

Posted by: Morsie at January 09, 2022 05:28 PM (R25zW)

189 I wonder if you fried the okra first and then put it on top of the Gumbo just before serving would be good.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 09, 2022 05:28 PM (rDgjh)

190 My dad made a wonderful goulash and I have never been able to replicate it because I never wrote down exactly how he made it.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 09, 2022 05:27 PM (HabA/)

my mom made great goulash, but it was always noodles, a spicy sauce, and whatever was getting old in the refrigerator that week.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 09, 2022 05:29 PM (evAgx)

191 I still have the wine key I used when I waited tables in the late 80s.

I made Coq au vin this week. Ate it with son #1 on Friday. Am heating leftovers for linner . Smells divine.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2022 05:29 PM (U2p+3)

192 >>> How about you?
~~~~~

Yep. Undecorating here starts tomorrow also. I'm a bit torn. I love Christmas and hate to see the season end, but I'm looking forward to getting back to a routine.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 05:29 PM (0TVNF)

193 I have had milk and macaroni. Buttermilk battered chicken. But not milk and chicken. Can you milk a chicken?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2022 05:29 PM (F4b8f)

194 The weather we are having up in the North East calls for tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches.

Looking to experiment with different types of cheese.
Muenster and cheddar, Colby and cheddar, provolone and pepper jack maybe.
If I could find good sourdough bread around me I would use that so I will use rye bread.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 09, 2022 05:29 PM (mcfjc)

195 "...has anyone ever tried chicken in milk?"

Chicken fried after a 48 hour marinade in buttermilk (in the fridge, natch) is delightful, you'll never go back.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2022 05:29 PM (jTmQV)

196 Well, just pulled into Casa de MiL in B'More.

And come to find a cooking thread on comfort food, and lost recipes.

Red beet eggs...

My late mother used to make them.
And I love them.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 09, 2022 05:30 PM (PTO9s)

197 has anyone ever tried chicken in milk? Stumbled on a recipe and wondered if it was any good.
Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 05:25 PM (qpolg)

If it's anything like the Jamie Oliver recipe I just browsed, it bears a strong resemblance to braised pork loin in milk. The long slow cook carmelizes the milk. Quite tasty.

Posted by: Yorkshire Man #3 at January 09, 2022 05:30 PM (ZSK0i)

198 How is wine sold in Australia, at all? I guess over the internet. But are they making exceptions for delivery people? It seemed like the lockdown is now total. Last I checked, they were forbidding even going out in the yard for exercise.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2022 05:30 PM (hQ23g)

199 Workin on it. Symptoms are pretty mild,

Work the phone for one of the Monoclonal? or other treat em early jobs if you can.

I went from mild symptoms and a positive to 4 nights in the hospital in 2 days. I should've pushed harder up front.

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2022 05:31 PM (FhXTo)

200 There is a Nero Wolfe Cookbook Rex Stout published in the 1970s. It gives recipes for many of the dishes mentioned in the stories. Fun reading but can't remember if I made any of them. Not a lot of squab at our local grocery. (Wolfe's/Stout's opinion about the freshest possible corn on the cob is completely justified.)

Posted by: JTB at January 09, 2022 05:32 PM (7EjX1)

201 Hope CBD and OM and all the Morons with the cron get well soon.

Posted by: Golfman at January 09, 2022 05:32 PM (hOMhY)

202 Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2022 05:31 PM (FhXTo)

Yeesh.

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 09, 2022 05:32 PM (C1NyB)

203 YD. According to Pixy that's only the NW territories. They have a tyrant in charge. Pixy said Sydney is back to normal. Unless something has changed with the advent of omicron.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 09, 2022 05:32 PM (2NHgQ)

204 191 Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2022 05:29 PM

Evening Nurse,
Coq au Vin is one of the dishes I would love to make. Ever since I saw the picture of it in a Morning Rant OM did a few weeks ago I have been wanting to make it. Even downloaded the recipe that OM provided.

Maybe next weekend since it is a nice long weekend (for me) I will give it a shot.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 09, 2022 05:33 PM (mcfjc)

205 Omicron is displacing delta. New infections are about 98% omicron now.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2022 05:34 PM (F4b8f)

206 DaveA "I wanna go home doc"

Doc "Please stay, You might be my only survivor this week".

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2022 05:34 PM (FhXTo)

207 My family has roots in New Orleans. They allegedly had a hand in some grocery stores down there. I went to New Orleans back in the 90's to see what my family might have been all about. Ended up staying for awhile and took some Creole/Cajun cooking classes to try to replicate what my grandmother did.

I think, based on what other Cajun's have said, I might be on the "right track."

My wife, who's a West Virginian through and through has said our Gumbo, and Chicken Creole are by far the best down home cooking she's ever had. Period.

And she grew up on fried chicken, ham, mashed 'taters, etc. A bit removed from "Cajun" or "Creole." But high praise nonetheless.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2022 05:34 PM (BFigT)

208 8 Boiled chicken tends to be a bit rubbery from my experience.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at January 09, 2022 04:06 PM (bVYXr)

For gumbo or soup I do something called "Velvet Chicken". Just get a pot of water boiling, put the chicken pieces in, cover and turn burner off. Wait 20 minutes for bonless skinless breast meat. A bit longer for thigh. It's done and not too rubbery.

Posted by: Javems at January 09, 2022 05:34 PM (AmoqO)

209 Posted by: Tom Servo at January 09, 2022 05:23 PM (evAgx)

Dark roux is also east of Lafayette. I like a nice brownish roux.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter. at January 09, 2022 05:35 PM (bDzJM)

210 Little VIA has been cooking since he was about four years old.

And one of the things that Mrs VIA did in our seven years of being stationed in Italy was learn from our Italian neighbors, and write down copious recipes.

So while Little VIA was visiting for Christmas he had said that on our passing, he wanted his mothers cobble together recipe notebook.

Little did he know that she had spent months reproducing, and organizing his very own recipe notebook, indexed, cross tabbed and everything, as one of his Christmas presents.

I though he was gonna cry when he opened it..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 09, 2022 05:35 PM (PTO9s)

211
I went from mild symptoms and a positive to 4 nights in the hospital in 2 days. I should've pushed harder up front.
Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2022 05:31 PM (FhXTo)

Guy at work did his own Ivermectin dose and drove himself to get monoclonals right by himself.

Posted by: Golfman at January 09, 2022 05:35 PM (hOMhY)

212 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD8AR-uaxgA

There may be latkes?

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2022 05:37 PM (FhXTo)

213 My grandmother (Mexico born--naturalized US citizen) always cooked without measuring things. She baked the same way--no measuring cups or measuring spoons. She would just dump ingredients into a bowl. Never had a bad outcome.

I tried to write down what she did. I would stop her mid-action and scoop out the ingredients to get a somewhat close recipe.

Fond memories of her wine cookies (bizcochitos), bundles, menudo, tamales, tortillas and a kind of bun she would make instead of rolling out tortilla dough.

The only recipe that really turned out from my notes was the recipe for wine cookies. My aunt makes them at Christmas time from my notes. I try making them, but they just don't come out right--even though I am a better cook than my aunt.

Posted by: brio at January 09, 2022 05:39 PM (DE2NF)

214 I love okra, btw. Key to making a good gumbo is to learn to make a good, dark roux first. Well that's key to most all cajun cooking.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 09, 2022 05:23 PM (evAgx)

I've gotten lazy in my old age. I use the microwave to make my roux. I can get it dark brown, throw it and the veggies in a pot and it gets almost black.

Posted by: Javems at January 09, 2022 05:39 PM (AmoqO)

215 Spent all day and night Thursday and Friday cooking stroganoff with noodles, stuffed cabbage, chicken parm, tortellini with vodka sauce, crab-stuffed flounder, roasted potatoes, green beans almondine for yesterday's Post Christmas Bingo Re-Gifting Party. The holidays are officially over now and I won't have to cook again for at least a week. Yay!
Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 05:11 PM (0TVNF

I'm so sad that I missed that feast! If you cooked that for me, I'd give you a whole 8 days off before you were asked to cook that again! Maybe even 9 days off! What can I say I'm a giver.....

Posted by: NC Ref at January 09, 2022 05:39 PM (RAodA)

216 I have the Nero Wolfe Cookbook. Can't specifically recall any of the recipes except the griddlecakes, which are delicious.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 09, 2022 05:40 PM (fTtFy)

217 Had a taste for calamari last week and what I had was really good. If you want to test an Italian restaurant try the calamari.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 05:40 PM (+ya+t)

218 Bunelos, not bundles (autocorrect never heard of bunelos).

Posted by: brio at January 09, 2022 05:40 PM (DE2NF)

219
Boiled chicken tends to be a bit rubbery from my experience.

I sous vide chicken, shrink wrapped, at 204 degrees for a couple of hours. Not rubbery and shreds so easily it's a joy to work with.

A must for Taco chicken. The chinese 'rona left me with beef issues.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 09, 2022 05:41 PM (dQvv7)

220 If you put sugar in your a Italian gravy, you're doing something wrong.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 09, 2022 05:42 PM (/fjr/)

221 If you put sugar in your a Italian gravy, you're doing something wrong.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 09, 2022 05:42 PM (/fjr/)

Hahaha yep for sure. I once accidentally substituted powdered sugar for flour while whipping up a Thanksgiving gravy for the turkey and stuffing. Whoops. A little sweet...but also tasted a little Oriental (sorry racist) with the sweet and savory mix. Turned out....interesting.

Posted by: NC Ref at January 09, 2022 05:45 PM (RAodA)

222 CBD was wondering did you lose sense of taste/ smell

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 05:22 PM (2JoB

Nope! Thank God for small favors!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 05:46 PM (Q9lwr)

223 For gumbo or soup I do something called "Velvet Chicken". Just get a pot of water boiling, put the chicken pieces in, cover and turn burner off. Wait 20 minutes for bonless skinless breast meat. A bit longer for thigh. It's done and not too rubbery.
Posted by: Javems at January 09, 2022 05:34 PM (AmoqO)[i/]

A requisite starting point for Hainanese Chicken Rice. I'm drooling now.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 09, 2022 05:46 PM (ZSK0i)

224 217 Had a taste for calamari last week and what I had was really good. If you want to test an Italian restaurant try the calamari.
Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 05:40 PM (+ya+t)

Reminds me of a high school senior year test I had for NJ diners - you knew if it was good if the late night snapper soup and strawberry shortcake were good. I could tell you all about what diners to go to and which to avoid just from those 2 dishes - that was a heckuva summer of lifeguarding and late night movies and dinners...

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 05:47 PM (exHjb)

225 Well worth the money to buy the best canned tomatoes you can find if you can't grow them imho.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 05:47 PM (+ya+t)

226 Maybe next weekend since it is a nice long weekend (for me) I will give it a shot.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude

That was my inspiration!

The second time I did it, it was much better. I skimmed a LOT of the fat. I spilled the bacon, as it didn't add much flavor in my opinion, but solid add grease. The trick is to make your own beef stock. I roasted beef domes and then put them in the instapot with carrot, onion, celery, bay leaves and a bunch of black peppercorns. Go easy on the salt, you can always add more.

It's really good!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2022 05:47 PM (U2p+3)

227 217 Had a taste for calamari last week and what I had was really good. If you want to test an Italian restaurant try the calamari.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 05:40 PM (+ya+t)

I made my own once. Key is a very light dusting of flower. They came out... edible.

Posted by: Javems at January 09, 2022 05:47 PM (AmoqO)

228 I'm so sad that I missed that feast!
Posted by: NC Ref at January 09, 2022 05:39 PM (RAodA)
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Dang! Another one whose invite got lost in the mail.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 05:47 PM (0TVNF)

229 has anyone ever tried chicken in milk? Stumbled on a recipe and wondered if it was any good.

Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 05:25 PM (qpolg)

I tried Jaimie Oliver's recipe last month.

It was good. Not ethereal, but worth a try.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 05:47 PM (Q9lwr)

230 Skipped the bacon.
Autocucumbered again

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2022 05:48 PM (U2p+3)

231 Okay, he would put a teaspoon in the big pot of spaghetti sauce. Takes the acidity away.

Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 05:48 PM (qpolg)

232 No leftover chili tonight! Put some into a container to freeze for my kid to take home, then wiped the pot with the cornbread.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 05:48 PM (QZxDR)

233 CBD that is good, always thought if I got it and had no smell or taste I would eat Brusselsprouts every day, and when I could taste them know I was over it.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 05:49 PM (2JoB8)

234 Thanks CBD. Looks like you are feeling better.

Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 05:49 PM (qpolg)

235 Pork braised in milk is far better. With three HEADS of garlic, fresh sage and lemon peel. Beware of the pith.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2022 05:49 PM (U2p+3)

236 CBD was wondering did you lose sense of taste/ smell
Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 05:22 PM (2JoB
Nope! Thank God for small favors!
__________________
Are we sure that's a good thing?

Kidding aside... hope all's well.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2022 05:50 PM (BFigT)

237 I've talked about how much I enjoy the Townsends YT channel that deals with 18th century history and living: trades, cooking, cultural matters, etc. The company got their start supplying movies and reenactors with period correct gear.

They offer a line of American made, hand forged knives. I have the paring knife (one for the kitchen and one for my muzzleloader pouch as a patch knife), the next size up, and what they call the cook's knife. They are all beautifully made and come razor sharp and are a heck of a value for the price. If you are looking for a good chef's knife, check out the Townsends web site. (The knives are carbon steel and will rust so I keep a small rag with mineral oil to wipe down the blades and handles. Also, they should only be hand washed. Definitely worth the small effort to maintain.)

Posted by: JTB at January 09, 2022 05:51 PM (7EjX1)

238 Pork braised in milk is far better. With three HEADS of garlic

There is no such thing as too much garlic.

Posted by: NC Ref, not a vampire at January 09, 2022 05:51 PM (RAodA)

239 Or is it another form-over-function thing, where the waiters have to put on a show with an inferior, but more pretentious tool?

Table service for wine should be done in hand at the table.

The corkscrew you speak of, which I call the Burning Man design is fine for home use or even behind the bar use. However for table service, it can not be used with bottle in hand, which means you have to set it on your guests' table in order to use it which becomes awkward for the guest, as you invade their comfort.

The standard waiter's corkscrew not only fits easily in the pocket, but it's better for table presentation. The problem with the kind most home drinkers have with this style is that they choose an inferior version, in the $5-15. Spend a little more on a Lagioule-style corkscrew and you'll have much greater success. Legnoart is a good brand.

*Bonus: a good Lagioule style corkscrew makes a good fist-pack and the foil cutter is often long enough to stab a motherfucker in the neck, if need be.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 09, 2022 05:51 PM (5We2S)

240 New infections are about 98% omicron now.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2022 05:34 PM (F4b8f)

Based on bullshit CDC statistics.

They are total fuck-ups. I don't believe their numbers.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 05:51 PM (Q9lwr)

241 Well worth the money to buy the best canned tomatoes you can find if you can't grow them imho.
Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 05:47 PM (+ya+t)
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Very true. A friend introduced me to Bianco DiNapoli canned tomatoes and they are wonderful if a bit pricey. Unfortunately, Whole Foods is the only place around here that carries them.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 05:51 PM (0TVNF)

242 The chinese 'rona left me with beef issues.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 09, 2022 05:41 PM (dQvv7)

That's a new side effect I hadn't heard...

Is it the taste or the digestive effect?

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 05:52 PM (exHjb)

243 I used to bake garlic in the oven, cut the tops off of the entire head, bake at 350 for about a half hour.
Let them cool, the garlic cloves become like a jelly.
Spread it on toast, crackers, etc.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2022 05:53 PM (jTmQV)

244 Based on bullshit CDC statistics.

They are total fuck-ups. I don't believe ~~their numbers~~ them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 05:51 PM (Q9lwr)

Fixed, for accuracy.

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 09, 2022 05:54 PM (C1NyB)

245 The last time I made chili with hamburger it didn't come out well. I had chosen a hamburger 93 to 7 lean to fat ratio. Not enough fat. Need to buy 80 to 20, which is (oddly) more expensive.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2022 05:55 PM (jTmQV)

246 Shit, our family is down to 2 of us that haven't caught the coof yet and I'm one of them. The wolf is scratching at the door. I could write a cure all book if bourbon kept it away.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 05:56 PM (+ya+t)

247 245 The last time I made chili with hamburger it didn't come out well. I had chosen a hamburger 93 to 7 lean to fat ratio. Not enough fat. Need to buy 80 to 20, which is (oddly) more expensive.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Add some ground pork.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2022 05:56 PM (U2p+3)

248 Garlic...

My wife will take a couple toes of it, and put it in a small plastic container. Then, shake the shit outa' it. The outer "paper" comes right off.

Try it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2022 05:56 PM (BFigT)

249 If everyone I knew had it but me I wouldn't believe CDC statistics

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 05:57 PM (2JoB8)

250 Thanks, nurse!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2022 05:58 PM (jTmQV)

251 Frozen pizza, doctored up. and red wine for dinner. Living the dream I tells ya.

Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 05:58 PM (qpolg)

252
That's a new side effect I hadn't heard...

Is it the taste or the digestive effect?

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 05:52 PM

Digestive effect. I still like the taste but the next day can be six or seven quick and hasty sessions perched atop the throne. I had all of the other symptoms that resolved quickly ( a few days ) but that's the one that hung on the longest.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 09, 2022 05:58 PM (dQvv7)

253 We once had a sommelier serve our wine (I know fancy words) at a nice restaurant. The guy could de-cork a bottle of wine so fast you would hardly see it. Most impressive thing was the pour. He started the pour about two feet from your glass. Never spilled a drop. He told me later he had been doing it for thirty years. French of course.

Posted by: Javems at January 09, 2022 05:58 PM (AmoqO)

254 241
Very true. A friend introduced me to Bianco DiNapoli canned tomatoes and they are wonderful if a bit pricey. Unfortunately, Whole Foods is the only place around here that carries them.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 05:51 PM (0TVNF)

Try Cento San Marzano Italian canned tomatoes. They come in several styles -- some with basil, organic, etc. I usually get the organic but they're all good, and they're available at most supermarkets.

Posted by: jix at January 09, 2022 06:00 PM (DU7iZ)

255 Yeah I don't buy the 93/7 ground beef any more for anything. It's too tough and not enough flavor.

Posted by: JuJuBee at January 09, 2022 06:00 PM (mNhhD)

256 *Bonus: a good Lagioule style corkscrew makes a good fist-pack and the foil cutter is often long enough to stab a motherfucker in the neck, if need be.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 09, 2022 05:51 PM (5We2S)

When bartending, this is an excellent defensive tool. I'll take two please.

One of the guys that brought me on preferred a 3 ft long torque wrench which he would bring down on the wrists of the unfortunate idiots that tried to "make change" from the tip jars.

Posted by: NC Ref at January 09, 2022 06:00 PM (RAodA)

257 dartist I'll go try scotch just for a comparison, scientific of course.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 06:03 PM (2JoB8)

258 117
Liver dumpling soup is something I want to try sometime.
Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 04:59 PM (+ya+t)

Ah, be still my heart! Memories of German Leberkn�delsuppe are heavenly!

I've made it a couple of times and it's surprisingly not that difficult.

Posted by: jix at January 09, 2022 06:03 PM (DU7iZ)

259 Try Cento San Marzano Italian canned tomatoes. They come in several styles -- some with basil, organic, etc. I usually get the organic but they're all good, and they're available at most supermarkets.
Posted by: jix at January 09, 2022 06:00 PM (DU7iZ)
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Thanks, jix. Will do.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:05 PM (0TVNF)

260 Someone above mentioned red beet eggs - when I was growing up, they were much more prevalent than regular hard boiled eggs. I still love them.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:06 PM (mD/uy)

261 Mr. L's (deceased) mom used to make raisin nut bread every Christmas and his aunt used to make raisin sauce every time she made ham. Both of these were very special to him, and he told me how much he wished I knew how to make them. Low and behold, my MIL's recipe box was found in my BIL's attic, and we found both recipes! I made the nut bread this Christmas and it was exactly what Mr. L remembered. I will make the raisin sauce the next time we bake a ham. If you have a special recipe, write it down and share it with your kids. They will appreciate it.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at January 09, 2022 06:06 PM (Vf4Y7)

262 Digestive effect. I still like the taste but the next day can be six or seven quick and hasty sessions perched atop the throne. I had all of the other symptoms that resolved quickly ( a few days ) but that's the one that hung on the longest.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 09, 2022 05:58 PM (dQvv7)

That sucks...having had my gallbladder out, I remember those days after for pretty much all foods for a little while...

It's probably some remnant inflammation somewhere in the digestive track (since red meat is more inflammatory than chicken, so it would be exacerbating the issue)...a few more "anti-inflammatory" days (aka sick person food days) will probably clear it up...

Posted by: Nova local at January 09, 2022 06:06 PM (exHjb)

263 Texas has a gas station/convenience store called the "Czech Stop" off I-35 between Waco and Dallas in a town called "West" Texas. They sell all kinda of pastries, etc.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 09, 2022 06:07 PM (UUBmN)

264 Hearing about CBD and OregonMuse getting the Chinese invasion virus upsets me more than I can properly convey.

Nonetheless, it would be amusing if CBD came through the other side with a craving for French Toast with syrup.

Posted by: Splunge at January 09, 2022 06:07 PM (PQ4Fz)

265 Yeah I don't buy the 93/7 ground beef any more for anything. It's too tough and not enough flavor.
Posted by: JuJuBee

Word - I try to find the 30% fat grind - if it is too much fat for the specific recipe, I just skim off the excess.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:07 PM (mD/uy)

266 it would be amusing if CBD came through the other side with a craving for French Toast with syrup.

Posted by: Splunge at January 09, 2022 06:07 PM (PQ4Fz)

No...it would not.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 06:08 PM (Q9lwr)

267 260 Someone above mentioned red beet eggs - when I was growing up, they were much more prevalent than regular hard boiled eggs. I still love them.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:06 PM (mD/uy)

I was really enjoying working my way through a jar of pickled beet eggs, until Mrs Splunge said "Why do you smell bad at night now? Like some kind of pickle."

Oops.

Posted by: Splunge at January 09, 2022 06:08 PM (PQ4Fz)

268 Hi, JT!

I suspect a lot of Eastern European cooking is similar, with with different names being given to things like egg noodles.

My dad made a wonderful goulash and I have never been able to replicate it because I never wrote down exactly how he made it.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V

Posted by: JT at January 09, 2022 06:09 PM (arJlL)

269 I buy the fattiest ground beef I can find. Makes better hamburgers, better chili, better everything. Although for chili I actually cut it 50/50 with ground turkey. And before you scoff, remember that the people who gave us tomatoes and chili peppers ate a hell of a lot of turkey.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 09, 2022 06:11 PM (QZxDR)

270 Ah, be still my heart! Memories of German Leberkndelsuppe are heavenly!
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Some people get geeked out for the mention of liver but it really is good. On the list to try to make!

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 06:11 PM (+ya+t)

271 I almost always use a cork puller with two metal prongs that you push down alongside the cork. Then you twist as you pull the cork out of the bottle. Just remember not to twist when pushing the prongs in, because that will push the cork into the bottle. I only did that once.

Posted by: IronDave at January 09, 2022 06:12 PM (k3crU)

272 257 dartist I'll go try scotch just for a comparison, scientific of course.
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We'll have to keep in touch, we might just have something here.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 06:14 PM (+ya+t)

273 I almost always use a cork puller with two metal prongs that you push down alongside the cork.

Posted by: IronDave at January 09, 2022 06:12 PM (k3crU)

They work well, but require a bit of practice.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2022 06:15 PM (Q9lwr)

274 Speaking of San Marzano tomatoes, our local Albertson's got a hold of a batch of canned Alessi-brand San Marzanos (peeled, whole) with the DDP stamp. A tad pricy at $5/can but the wife and I decided we'd give them a whirl in our favorite Bolognese sauce recipe.

Usually we use the Cento-brand SM's at $4 per w/o the origin stamp and get a great result.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 09, 2022 06:15 PM (ZSK0i)

275 >>>[243] I used to bake garlic in the oven, cut the tops off of the entire head, bake at 350 for about a half hour.
Let them cool, the garlic cloves become like a jelly.
Spread it on toast, crackers, etc. Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2022 05:53 PM (jTmQV)
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Greetings, GDJ ... Multiple heads of garlic (tops cut off and drizzled with olive oil) can be roasted in minutes using an Instant Pot ... I often prepare 6-8 heads this way, squeeze out 2 tbsp. worth onto small sheets of waxed paper, stack multiple sheets, and store in freezer-proof Ziplock bags. This way I've got roasted garlic ready to add whenever a recipe calls for it.

Posted by: Kathy at January 09, 2022 06:16 PM (h3RRP)

276 OSHA mandates go into effect at midnight. Still no word from SCOTUS.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:16 PM (0TVNF)

277 Dwayne Hickman, star of 'The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis' dead at 87

https://tinyurl.com/2s386d2e

Posted by: Vic at January 09, 2022 06:16 PM (mpXpK)

278 OSHA mandates go into effect at midnight. Still no word from SCOTUS.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:16 PM (0TVNF)

Well it takes time for the liberals on the court to attend the 100,000 children's funerals due to covid

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 09, 2022 06:17 PM (Irn0L)

279 Greetings, GDJ ... Multiple heads of garlic (tops cut off and drizzled with olive oil) can be roasted in minutes using an Instant Pot .
Posted by: Kathy at January 09, 2022 06:16 PM (h3RRP)
~~~~~

Now I have to buy an Instant Pot.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:17 PM (0TVNF)

280 3 of those Supreme Court justices shouldn't be allowed anywhere near those rulings.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 06:18 PM (2JoB8)

281 Well it takes time for the liberals on the court to attend the 100,000 children's funerals due to covid
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 09, 2022 06:17 PM (Irn0L)
~~~~~

I know I've mentioned it before, but I went to high school with that idiot and she was just as stupid and obnoxious then.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:20 PM (0TVNF)

282 This Christmas we did a bit of passing along
- My Mom and my oldest taught the other grandkids how to make strudel (steamed over potatoes with goulash not that baked kind.) This is the greatest dish known to man and the more of my relatives who know how to make it the better the chance someone will make it for me.
- My Mom taught my eldest and my sister's son-in-law how to make her version of rouladen which is the second-best dish known to man.

I'm very excited about these developments. My scale may not be.

Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at January 09, 2022 06:20 PM (IIOyJ)

283 The two-prong openers are a must, if for nothing other than as back-up for damaged/weak corks. Perfect for those.

I also like the rabbit ear or double lever cork pullers, have both, but almost always just use the "waiter's corkscrew" I have. Reason: the great, ergonomic handle. The normal/traditional ones have the skinny little handle - not good. Also, they can be weak, lack heft, or tight connection of the corkscrew to the handle, all of this making for a poor-leverage difficult cork pull.

This one I got online a few years ago (have not been available for some reason, for a long time) has a nice padded handle/grip, tight connections, and teflon-coated corkscrew. It's by far the best I've ever used.

Didn't read the thread - has Bitter Clinger chimed in? He'd certainly have lots of "data" on this topic.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 09, 2022 06:21 PM (OTzUX)

284 226 Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2022 05:47 PM

I will keep that in mind! Thanks!

One thing I forgot about. When I was in the supermarket the other day there were very few chickens. There was a sign saying they were having a shortage.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 09, 2022 06:22 PM (mcfjc)

285 I know I've mentioned it before, but I went to high school with that idiot and she was just as stupid and obnoxious then.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:20 PM (0TVNF)

I had not heard that, Interesting. And I am sure you are right. Affirmative Action?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 09, 2022 06:22 PM (Irn0L)

286 I've been using Pomodori Pelati lately when needing canned tomatoes. I get them at the Italian store and they are labeled with the store brand so I have no idea who packs them. They are consistently good but I wish I knew a bit more about them.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:22 PM (mD/uy)

287 Dwayne Hickman, star of 'The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis' dead at 87.

"I'm gonna kill that boy. . . "
-- Zombie Dobie Gillis' Dad

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:24 PM (mD/uy)

288 Ham Bones For Soup ... This is just an FYI that many stores specializing in the spiral-type hams also sell just the ham bones. For various reasons, we did not bake a ham on New Years Day, still wanted to make bean soup and, this week, scored a BOGO on ham bones. Bonus: seems to be enough meat still attached to not need bolstering!

Posted by: Kathy at January 09, 2022 06:24 PM (h3RRP)

289 Buck, I owe you a good Czech Pilsner if we ever meet. That texasczechs link has what I think is close to what my grandmother made that we called shisky (phonetic spelling). Basically, a big soft dumpling wrapped around a prune* and drenched in melted butter and sugar. I won't be able to make it exactly since my wife can't eat real dairy but fake butter should suffice. I will be trying it soon. Thank you.

* I bet dried apricots would be good too

Posted by: Oddbob at January 09, 2022 06:24 PM (nfrXX)

290 Friend who was at Princeton when Sotomayor was said she was a clear affirmative action case, with all of the pathologies, including having a special program set up just for her. Not very smart.

Recall her brief time on a lower court included some of the nastiest reprimands by higher courts in reversing her rulings that have been seen in a while.

But beyond her, 1) the judiciary has far, far, far too much power and 2) "they're not sending their best", the intellectual caliber and fitness of far too many are, well, non-existent.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 09, 2022 06:26 PM (OTzUX)

291 Kathy, gonna use the ham bone this week to make Senate bean soup. Actually will check a place tomorrow to see if they still have post-holiday season deep discounts on hams, which has been a pattern I've seen for a few years. Kind of ridiculous value, when a $12 ham gives you 4-5 dinners, and a few ham/egg breakfasts too.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 09, 2022 06:27 PM (OTzUX)

292 re: corkscrew
For several yrs we've been using an electric one, got it at Kohls. Only problem is as much as I use it they don't stand up well to every day use, but it's still working.

When emptying out the in-laws apt I found the one we gave them so now I have a backup. The one we had with arms like Buck described eventually fell apart. Maybe I shouldn't drink so much wine, think I'll go get a beer.

Posted by: Farmer at January 09, 2022 06:28 PM (55Qr6)

293 Leftists are not on court for law knowledge, only to put their Leftism on the ruling.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 06:28 PM (2JoB8)

294 Affirmative Action?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 09, 2022 06:22 PM (Irn0L)
~~~~~

Yep, she's been benefitting from it her whole life, even as far back as HS.

Just plain obnoxious. We were a year or two apart in school, but she and a bunch of her cohorts disrupted our graduation ceremony with black power crap, raised fists, and turned their backs on Terence Cardinal Cooke who was presiding.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:29 PM (0TVNF)

295 Bone Aperteet, ya'll

Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2022 06:29 PM (4VOTR)

296 Re: passing along recipes--

My Kentucky G'mother, long since passed, had a blackberry jam cake recipe with brown sugar icing. This Christmas my younger cousin, who doesn't remember her, was on FB bemoaning the fact that she couldn't find her mother's jam cake recipe. (Her father was my g'mom's son.) I offered her the recipe our g'mom had and it turned out to be the same one. She was thrilled. Her midwestern in-laws loved it.

Never liked the cake when I was a kid, but guess I ought to try it.

Posted by: skywch at January 09, 2022 06:30 PM (sKjat)

297 271 I almost always use a cork puller with two metal prongs that you push down alongside the cork.

That's the Ah-So (or a knock-off). As mentioned above, it's essential if you have older bottles in your collection, but it shouldn't be your main corkscrew because it's slower, especially with tight corks. It definitely takes practice to get it to work.

The wing kind (two-arm) can vary a lot in design quality, and most of them are crappy. The key problem with most of them is that they have a screw like a wood screw instead of a helix (also called the worm). Whatever type of corkscrew you are considering, if there's metal straight down the middle, don't buy it. It will inevitably leave crumbs of cork in your wine.

Next, look for a teflon coated helix: that will reduce the amount of effort you need to get the screw into the cork. And eventually the teflon will wear off and then it's time to replace the screw.

Posted by: Otto Zilch at January 09, 2022 06:30 PM (U2esv)

298 We were a year or two apart in school, but she and a bunch of her cohorts disrupted our graduation ceremony with black power crap, raised fists, and turned their backs on Terence Cardinal Cooke who was presiding.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:29 PM (0TVNF)

Lovely

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 09, 2022 06:30 PM (Irn0L)

299
Dwayne Hickman, star of 'The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis' dead at 87
https://tinyurl.com/2s386d2e
Posted by: Vic

Just saw him on Wagon Train a couple days ago.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 09, 2022 06:31 PM (63Dwl)

300 Frying pork chops tonite. New recipe. Dip in butter milk then dredge in flour. Put in frig for 30-60 mins and then dredge in flour again. Chops were heavily seasoned w/ S&P. Flour had ton of cajun seasoning.

Let you know next week how they came out.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 09, 2022 06:31 PM (ju2Fy)

301 I love gumbo too, but tonight's menu is Arroz con Carne del Gato.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 09, 2022 06:32 PM (RL/ur)

302 Here at Mourv�dre Manor, we had an Italian-made Williams-Sonoma corkscrew which we used for about 25 years and thousands of bottles (had to replace the helix once as the teflon had worn off). We called it the automatic transmission corkscrew because it would twist the helix into the cork as you swung the lever down, and lifted the cork straight out as you swung it back up. It finally gave up the ghost last fall and we got an OXO lever corkscrew to replace it. So far it's performed very well.

Posted by: Otto Zilch at January 09, 2022 06:32 PM (U2esv)

303 Hahaha.

AOC has the 'Rona.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:33 PM (0TVNF)

304 Buttermilk is amazing for chicken and pork. Let set 48 hours in it you will never have tough or dry in your vocabulary again.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2022 06:34 PM (4VOTR)

305 Yep teflon on the worm is key. This fantastic waiter's corkscrew I have has the coated worm. While a good lever design is still technically easier, this thing is so good on the key points that it's almost as easy to use.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 09, 2022 06:35 PM (OTzUX)

306 Yo Buck, here's my recipe for seafood gumbo. It was my entry in The Deplorable Gourmet cookbook. It's authentic and it's awesome cuz I got it from a true 'coon ass's wife. I make it once a year for New Year's.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0r0gf550z4a9r1/Gumbo.doc?dl=0

Posted by: thefritz at January 09, 2022 06:35 PM (9EK2E)

307
Hahaha.

AOC has the 'Rona.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:33 PM

Probably got it from touching her BFF's sandals.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 09, 2022 06:36 PM (dQvv7)

308 303 Hahaha.

AOC has the 'Rona.
Posted by: IrishEi at

That's too good to be true.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2022 06:36 PM (U2p+3)

309 Hahaha.

AOC has the 'Rona.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:33 PM (0TVNF)

Florida's revenge.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 09, 2022 06:36 PM (ZSK0i)

310 Ben Had's comment reminds me.

Incredible chicken wings. Marinate 24 hours in buttermilk, cumin, salt. Grill/roast, basting with fresh lemon juice with cumin mixed in.

Unbelievable. Back when there were regular football TV get-togethers, this was a standing request from everyone, so it just became what I always brought. I'd also do a hot/tangy style for contrast. But the buttermilk wings are amazing.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 09, 2022 06:37 PM (OTzUX)

311 @205
>>Omicron is displacing delta. New infections are about 98% omicron now.

Well, it appears that Delta and Omicron went for a vaycay in Cyrpus and had a baby and named it DeltaCron.

This bulls**t is never going to end.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 09, 2022 06:37 PM (lTtXP)

312
Hahaha.
AOC has the 'Rona.
Posted by: IrishEi

Team America 1 - Everyone Has Aids
Team America 2 - Everyone Has Covid

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 09, 2022 06:37 PM (63Dwl)

313 Baked potatoes and roasted broccoli tonight. I'm on Tramadol and a muscle relaxer for my lower back so nothing that required lots of prep. Had a grocery delivery order from Walmart today, half the stuff was sold out. The dems really do want to turn us into Venezuela.

Posted by: JuJuBee at January 09, 2022 06:37 PM (mNhhD)

314 Tonight's dry rubbed tri-tip slow roasted (indirect heat) on the grill, with grilled shishito peppers. Nice cabernet. One of my favorite meals, and so simple.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 09, 2022 06:38 PM (OTzUX)

315 Wasn't AOC triple vaxxed? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 09, 2022 06:38 PM (mcfjc)

316 Hahaha.

AOC has the 'Rona.
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DeSantis is laughing his ass off.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 06:38 PM (+ya+t)

317 That's too good to be true.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2022 06:36 PM (U2p+3)
~~~~~

She probably caught it from that guy (Porter?) she kissed at the drag bar.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:39 PM (0TVNF)

318 Oddbob
Make ghee. Very easy, and removes all the butterfat.
Also gives you an oil that smokes at a much higher temp.

Posted by: MkY at January 09, 2022 06:39 PM (cPGH3)

319
Dwayne Hickman, star of 'The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis' dead at 87

https://tinyurl.com/2s386d2e

Posted by: Vic at January 09, 2022 06:16 PM

another grim milestone for the biden administration

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 09, 2022 06:39 PM (DUIap)

320 Dr Malone said everyone is going to get it, of course everyone doesn't really mean everyone but mostly.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 06:40 PM (2JoB8)

321 Hi Ben Had

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 06:40 PM (+ya+t)

322 rhomboid, I do my chicken wings in a tequila/lime, adobo and agave nectar marinade with cumin.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2022 06:40 PM (4VOTR)

323 Here at Zilch* Manor, we had an Italian-made Williams-Sonoma corkscrew which we used for about 25 years and thousands of bottles (had to replace the helix once as the teflon had worn off). We called it the automatic transmission corkscrew because it would twist the helix into the cork as you swung the lever down, and lifted the cork straight out as you swung it back.

Posted by: Otto Zilch at January 09, 2022 06:32 PM (U2esv)
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We have the same one and no one can ever figure out how to use it. But it really is fool-proof once you figure it out.

*Pixy wouldn't let me copy and paste the real name, sorry.

Posted by: bluebell at January 09, 2022 06:41 PM (wyw4S)

324 Old recipes. My sister has (I found out) my Pop's red hot pickled egg recipe (using the candy red hots... kinda hard to find).
Once I find those redhots, I'm pickling some more eggs.
They end up red instead of the beet color... (purple?)

Posted by: MkY at January 09, 2022 06:41 PM (cPGH3)

325 I find when I am looking at houses for when I eventually retire, I am looking at how the kitchen is set up.

I want a kitchen that has the space for me to work and of course the equipment to do most anything.
And of course I want a nice outside setup with grill, smoker and Evo flat top. One day..........sigh

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 09, 2022 06:42 PM (mcfjc)

326 dartist, how are you my friend?

Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2022 06:42 PM (4VOTR)

327 @320

>>Dr Malone said everyone is going to get it, of course everyone doesn't really mean everyone but mostly.

Sure, once a virus spreads to every part of the globe, uhhh, it's endemic.

It's been endemic for about two years.

This has all been a scam and Op and all of this insanity is becoming extraordinarily banal.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 09, 2022 06:42 PM (lTtXP)

328 Really don't need it but I have Tasty-Kake Juniors

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 06:42 PM (2JoB8)

329 My Pop didn't make squirrel stew, but did make fried squirrel (used the Cutch oven after frying). Squirrel gravy stands alone as the bestest gravy ever.
You need red squirrels, though. The grey are too damned little to do anything but feed possums.

Posted by: MkY at January 09, 2022 06:44 PM (cPGH3)

330 dartist, how are you my friend?
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I'm well so far, thank you ma'am. I trust you are as well?

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 06:44 PM (+ya+t)

331 Covid just wants to date me!

Posted by: AOC! at January 09, 2022 06:44 PM (I2/tG)

332 bluebell that's how my Professional Screwpull works, you have to squeeze the handle to hold the bottle.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 06:45 PM (2JoB8)

333 I've got a heart shaped Ding Dong.

Posted by: f'd at January 09, 2022 06:45 PM (vrz2I)

334 RECIPE FOR AN OLD COMFORT FOOD

++++

I was transcribing a bundh of recipes into my computer and got to the bottom of the pile, two folders. Opened them and there's a SH!TLOAD of Mom's recipes in her own hand.

My SIL photoed and converted them to pdfs.

What a treasure.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at January 09, 2022 06:45 PM (fBtlL)

335 >>> Dr Malone said everyone is going to get it, of course everyone doesn't really mean everyone but mostly.
~~~~~

Apparently even those of us who had Alpha or Delta may get Omicron.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:46 PM (0TVNF)

336 Never ever ever add file to cooking gumbo, will make gumbo bitter
Only added to served bowl by individuals taste
We should know down here in Louisiana.

Posted by: Tiger Bill at January 09, 2022 06:46 PM (7F9aG)

337
Can't find a source for the AOC 'rona story. Of course if she did get it I'd say the source was from the plane flight, not from sitting outside in Florida.

If true, the left will twist it like a ribbon in the wind.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 09, 2022 06:46 PM (dQvv7)

338 wife made fried snapper which is the excuse to make habernero onion vinegar sauce.
when everyone has the rona, no one has the rona.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at January 09, 2022 06:47 PM (b+v9B)

339 Well, apparently the AOC source is thepostmillennial.com. Along with that is a statement from AOC that's just as dumb as those from others who've been jabbed and boosted.

"The Congresswoman received her booster shot this Fall, and encourages everyone to get their booster and follow CDC guidance."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 09, 2022 06:47 PM (ZSK0i)

340 I've been known to open a wine bottle with a screwdriver and a hammer.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2022 06:47 PM (4VOTR)

341 AOC has the new coof variant that jumped species from humans to donkeys

Posted by: Roy at January 09, 2022 06:47 PM (Ti+Tv)

342 Work is the guess is Omicron will ward off Delta.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 06:47 PM (2JoB8)

343 Arthritis... go with the boxed stuff!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2022 04:18 PM (TYbad)

I actually have to use a knife handle or similar object to punch in the cardboard hole.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at January 09, 2022 06:48 PM (OX9vb)

344 Firebrand with Matt Gaetz on Rumble
Episode 21: Fedsurrection.
Some crazy stuff new to me within the first ten minutes.
Guest is Darren Beattie

Food for your brain.

Posted by: Fool Otto at January 09, 2022 06:48 PM (DB16e)

345 I think I may have the Omi now. Bad headache a couple of days ago, sneezing, slightly runny burning nose. No big deal really.

Posted by: f'd at January 09, 2022 06:48 PM (vrz2I)

346 I tried to grow a sassafras tree, so I could have our own filet, and also brew that tea in the spring to "thin the blood" like my granny did.
Didn't work. Need to try again. We're right on the northern edge.

Posted by: MkY at January 09, 2022 06:48 PM (cPGH3)

347 Good thing Donkey Chompers was vaxxed/boosted or she might have ended up asymptomatic.

Posted by: Roy at January 09, 2022 06:49 PM (Ti+Tv)

348 I find when I am looking at houses for when I eventually retire, I am looking at how the kitchen is set up.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude

Every place we have looked at so far needs, to my eyes at least, a complete kitchen redo. I'm spoiled by what now I have I fully admit.

But I'll gladly spend the $$ to get 'er done - I have no desire to leave it all to the kids.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:49 PM (mD/uy)

349 I actually have to use a knife handle or similar object to punch in the cardboard hole.
Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs!

You're my kind of people!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:50 PM (mD/uy)

350 But I'll gladly spend the $$ to get 'er done - I have no desire to leave it all to the kids.
Posted by: Tonypete

We're looking to downsize, and I expect we'll build, but dunno yet. We love our kitchen, but made it maybe 3 feet too wide. Too many steps between things. Also, the pantry isn't large enough.

Posted by: MkY at January 09, 2022 06:51 PM (cPGH3)

351 That thing with the sword or knife knocking the top off of a bottle doesn't leave any glass for guests?

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 06:51 PM (+ya+t)

352 Can't find a source for the AOC 'rona story.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/
aoc-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-
partying-in-miami-maskless

Posted by: AOC! at January 09, 2022 06:51 PM (I2/tG)

353 Tonypete, my Brother.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2022 06:51 PM (4VOTR)

354 I do not know what everyone thinks of Marjorie Taylor Greene, but after watching her interview on Timcast IRL I have a new respect for her. I daresay we need more like her in Congress.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 09, 2022 06:51 PM (mcfjc)

355 I was lucky enough to inherit mom's metal 3x5 card box of recipes. Then I found grandma's metal 3x5 card box of recipes. SCORE!

Posted by: Infidel at January 09, 2022 06:52 PM (qpolg)

356 OT-Here might be a helpful article if you're a Christian and have to deal with people who irritate you. I struggle with this myself sometimes. Why am I saying this-Because someone at church just e-mailed me and said "You mentioned the Wise Men at the Christian Eve service (I mentioned them because we had a carol about them. I did not preach on the Wise Men.) I don't understand why you did a sermon on them today?. It was too repetitious. Uhh, I did a sermon about them because it was Epiphany Sunday:

https://tinyurl.com/2p8d9ydz

If you have a priest or pastor consider not critiquing their sermon every week . I don't know why people who are lovable in many other ways have to give their opinion on absolutely everything.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2022 06:52 PM (k49Sx)

357
AOC 'rona link:

https://tinyurl.com/5n8wdxtp

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 09, 2022 06:52 PM (dQvv7)

358 Update on my Sister-in-law from the Problems thread. She had a heart attack in the ER. She is now incubated and in an induced coma. They put two stints in to keep her going, still has 100% blockage in another artery. Scheduled for open heart surgery Wednesday. This shit ain't fun. Recovery can be a bitch.

Thanks for the prayers and good thoughts.

Posted by: Javems at January 09, 2022 06:52 PM (AmoqO)

359 AOC's congressional office released an official press release. I mean they never do any real work so they had time for that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 09, 2022 06:52 PM (Irn0L)

360 FFS

Everyone get sick.

I haven't had so much as a snotty nose in two years. Doesn't mean I won't get something, at some point, but.... wtf. When did everyone get so fucking pussed out about getting sick? It's a part of life. You live, you get sick. Your mom kisses your forehead and gives you chicken soup. You go back to school and cough all over your classmates. Everyone hacks and snots and rubs up against each other.

Then you go to college and all drink out of the same cups playing quarters.

Then you go to work. And you show up when you're suck because you're not a fucking pussy and you have work to get done.

Fuck all of this bullshit. Get over yourselves.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2022 06:52 PM (U2p+3)

361 Work is the guess is Omicron will ward off Delta.
Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 06:47 PM (2JoB

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Weird, isn't it? Omicron will give you immunity to Delta, but Delta doesn't confer immunity to Omicron.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:53 PM (0TVNF)

362 progtards think getting covid is like getting pregnant

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at January 09, 2022 06:53 PM (b+v9B)

363 Meant "Christmas Eve" service, not "Christian" Eve.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2022 06:53 PM (k49Sx)

364 Javems, continued prayers.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2022 06:53 PM (4VOTR)

365 I just saw a product by Tyson.

'Nuggets of love'

I shit you not, heart shaped chicken mash nuggets.

Nuggets of Love.
With special dipping sauce.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 09, 2022 06:53 PM (PTO9s)

366 348 Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:49 PM

I have toyed with the idea of finding a nice piece of property and maybe tearing down the structure there and building what I want.

But that might be far more expensive than just doing a redo on the parts of the house that need it.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 09, 2022 06:54 PM (mcfjc)

367 but made it maybe 3 feet too wide. Too many steps between things. Also, the pantry isn't large enough.
Posted by: MkY

I'm lucky in that I have a monster kitchen - but it doesn't matter one whit. When I am trying to cook or host a get-together, everyone in the house crams into the triangle formed by the range, sink and fridge. The island is ten feet long - and yet, folks will walk on the side closest to the appliances even if it is the long way around to where they want to go.

"I'm trying to cook here people!!"

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:54 PM (mD/uy)

368 348 I find when I am looking at houses for when I eventually retire, I am looking at how the kitchen is set up.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude

Every place we have looked at so far needs, to my eyes at least, a complete kitchen redo. I'm spoiled by what now I have I fully admit.

But I'll gladly spend the $$ to get 'er done - I have no desire to leave it all to the kids.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:49 PM (mD/uy)

good Kitchen, good bathrooms, not too large, and a single story.

And I'd love to have two Master Suites as well.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2022 06:54 PM (oHd/0)

369 osted by: Javems at January 09, 2022 06:52 PM (AmoqO)

Oh, my goodness. I hadn't read that before. I will pray for her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2022 06:54 PM (k49Sx)

370 LOL nurse!

Preach on, sistah!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 09, 2022 06:55 PM (A8K24)

371 AOC told all her fans to not worry about her. She's already got a medicine cabinet full of horse paste.

Posted by: Roy at January 09, 2022 06:55 PM (Ti+Tv)

372 Everyone should probably just take the next two weeks off.

Posted by: f'd at January 09, 2022 06:55 PM (vrz2I)

373 And I'd love to have two Master Suites as well.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2022 06:54 PM (oHd/0)

Don't forget the Slave Suites!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 09, 2022 06:55 PM (ZSK0i)

374 We stayed at a place that has the new cook tops, I forget the name (induction?) but, man, those suckers get hot fast!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2022 06:56 PM (jTmQV)

375 I have toyed with the idea of finding a nice piece of property and maybe tearing down the structure there and building what I want.

But that might be far more expensive than just doing a redo on the parts of the house that need it.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude

I hear you. Also, depending on where you build/rebuild, a 98% 'remodel' may be much cheaper than a bulldoze and build for just permitting and utility hook ups alone.

Of course, you just don't know until you are too far into it to make much difference. LOL

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:56 PM (mD/uy)

376 nurse, that's Rip taking enough banamine to start whinnying. I could do the same.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2022 06:56 PM (4VOTR)

377 Javems, prayers for your SiL, you, and your family.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 09, 2022 06:57 PM (llON8)

378 372 Everyone should probably just take the next two weeks off.
Posted by: f'd at January 09, 2022 06:55 PM (vrz2I)

Chicago teachers' union was just mentioning that.

Posted by: Roy at January 09, 2022 06:57 PM (Ti+Tv)

379 And I'd love to have two Master Suites as well.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2022 06:54 PM (oHd/0)
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That's "primary suite", bigot!

Posted by: Social Justice Real Estate Agent at January 09, 2022 06:57 PM (1kZuj)

380 Texas has a gas station/convenience store called the "Czech Stop" off I-35 between Waco and Dallas in a town called "West" Texas. They sell all kinda of pastries, etc.
Posted by: lin-duh at January 09, 2022 06:07 PM (UUBmN)

I used to travel that road for work. Bought many a Kolache at that store.

Posted by: tbodie at January 09, 2022 06:58 PM (45Xak)

381 350 But I'll gladly spend the $$ to get 'er done - I have no desire to leave it all to the kids.
Posted by: Tonypete

Just got an estimate to remodel ours. Came in at 58k, which is well over double our budget. Looks like we'll be DYI'ing.

I doubt if this kitchen has been "remodeled" since the 1940's. And that was probably just to put in some cabinets.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at January 09, 2022 06:58 PM (OX9vb)

382 The sword opening bottles I think only works with Champagne

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2022 06:58 PM (2JoB8)

383
Weird, isn't it? Omicron will give you immunity to Delta, but Delta doesn't confer immunity to Omicron.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 06:53 PM

I'm pretty damn positive the wife had 'Classic Corona' in 2019. Pretty sure I had mild Delta last spring and a mild Omicron recently. Wife escaped Delta and Omicron.

Neither of us ever get sick, or have gotten sick in the past two plus decades.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 09, 2022 06:58 PM (dQvv7)

384 "Chicago teachers' union was just mentioning that.
Posted by: Roy"

If they get to why can't we? Send us another check Joe.

Posted by: f'd at January 09, 2022 06:59 PM (vrz2I)

385 Thanks for the prayers and good thoughts.
Posted by: Javems

Continued prayers!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 09, 2022 06:59 PM (mD/uy)

386 NYC covid case count has peaked and turned. It is still about twice Florida and the rest of NYS

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at January 09, 2022 06:59 PM (b+v9B)

387 Posted by: Javems
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I got 5 stents so maybe hers won't be so bad. Hope she doesn't have to go open heart.

Posted by: dartist at January 09, 2022 06:59 PM (+ya+t)

388 Will pray for your SIL, Javems.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 07:00 PM (0TVNF)

389 tbodie, they had another place off 45 in Ennis. Good stuff.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2022 07:00 PM (4VOTR)

390 #BareShelvesBiden is now trending on Twitter, with people posting pictures of bare shelves in stores from all over the country.

Guess that the Dark Winter is finally here.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2022 07:01 PM (I2/tG)

391 WEASEL IS UP TO BAT

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at January 09, 2022 07:01 PM (2JoB8)

392 Fen, you posted something last night from a Catholic priest, and I closed without saving it.

Would you consider emailing that to me, please? Email in nic.

Many thanks!

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at January 09, 2022 07:01 PM (OX9vb)

393 Chicken Capanka sounds like our "chicken and dumplings" when I was growing up.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 09, 2022 07:01 PM (nC+QA)

394 Thanks for the prayers and good thoughts.
Posted by: Javems at January 09, 2022 06:52 PM (AmoqO)

I'll put her on my prayer list.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 09, 2022 07:02 PM (ZSK0i)

395 tbodie, they had another place off 45 in Ennis. Good stuff.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2022 07:00 PM (4VOTR)

Really? I go thru there for work once or twice a month. Guess I'll have to wake up next time I drive that way.

Thanks!

Posted by: tbodie at January 09, 2022 07:02 PM (45Xak)

396 Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at January 09, 2022 07:01 PM (OX9vb)

I will do that, April.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2022 07:07 PM (k49Sx)

397 I tried to grow a sassafras tree, so I could have our own filet, and also brew that tea in the spring to "thin the blood" like my granny did.
Didn't work. Need to try again. We're right on the northern edge.
Posted by: MkY at January 09, 2022 06:48 PM (cPGH3)

David the Good has information on growing crops outside of their ideal region, he calls it "Zonepushing"

He has a website,

https://www.thesurvivalgardener.com

Posted by: Kindltot at January 09, 2022 07:08 PM (ZMraq)

398 Any good suggestions on how to make bread with large air bubbles in it? I'm tired of my bread coming out dense, I want something more airy. Thanks!

Posted by: the last to post at January 09, 2022 07:10 PM (e19Cc)

399 Any good suggestions on how to make bread with large air bubbles in it? I'm tired of my bread coming out dense, I want something more airy. Thanks!
Posted by: the last to post at January 09, 2022 07:10 PM (e19Cc)

Using more water for a given amount of flour/salt/yeast is usually the way to do it. But the dough becomes harder to handle as a result.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 09, 2022 07:12 PM (ZSK0i)

400
I used to travel that road for work. Bought many a Kolache at that store.
Posted by: tbodie

Night stalker?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 09, 2022 07:13 PM (63Dwl)

401 post 398 - there are probably a million bread sites online. Learn the right ways to knead dough, learn to get a good sourdough starter going, learn how to make high hydration no-knead bread. All of these can create a great crumb - the air bubbles you want. Also good strong yeast, like SAF Instant, will help, along with not over-proofing the dough and letting it rise at the proper temperature. Good luck!

Posted by: drew458 at January 09, 2022 07:15 PM (Olcxz)

402 Any good suggestions on how to make bread with large air bubbles in it? I'm tired of my bread coming out dense, I want something more airy. Thanks!
Posted by: the last to post at January 09, 2022 07:10 PM (e19Cc)
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Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but the no-knead Sullivan Street Bakery bread is terrific.

https://tinyurl.com/5n7dvnfe

Posted by: IrishEi at January 09, 2022 07:16 PM (0TVNF)

403 CZECH CHICKEN EGG DROP SOUP

This is Penna. Dutch Ribble soup.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at January 09, 2022 07:19 PM (fBtlL)

404 Night stalker?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 09, 2022 07:13 PM (63Dwl)

Good one. And I immediately understood the reference.

Posted by: tbodie at January 09, 2022 07:27 PM (45Xak)

405 I just made my first batch of stuffed cabbage of the season.
Delish. Growing up I would get up in the middle of the night, go into the garage where the pot of stuffed cabbage would be since it was very cold out there. I would pick out one of those huge rolls with sauerkraut on it and eat it right there then head back to bed. Wonderful memory. Thanks mom.

Posted by: sidney at January 09, 2022 07:46 PM (7/kmB)

406 38 "that wheel of ham that comes in airtight plastic."

We kids would always fight over who got to lick the plastic.
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Are you related to the guys that went uphill both ways to and from school?

Posted by: Ciampino at January 09, 2022 07:51 PM (qfLjt)

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